Talk:Gohan/Archive 1

message: In my translation, Rou Dai Kaioshin states that it takes five hours to perform the power-up ritual, and that the effects last twenty hours.  Is this just in mine, or is that what he actually says? Beowulph 05:27, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your translation is wrong sorry, it takes 25 hours, 5 hours for the ceremonie and 20 hours to make Gohan Unlock His Full Potential. --Son Gokou 01:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mystic Gohan

message: Guys whatever, stop the edit-war. Most commonly used fan-name is Full Power. Use that one. Kusonaga 08:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full/Permanent 

message: Seriously, it's so stupid to contuinally change the honor and dignify as well as the Full Power/Permanent Distinction. Do I have to get an admin? Kusonaga 09:16, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can you guys read? 

message: There is some unnecessary information about the Mystic power up.  There are no facts about the power up during the GT saga, because he doesn't fight or has not fought in a long time.  The same happened when he became an adult; he lost the motivation to transform into a SSJ2, so he weakened a bit when he did go SSJ2.  Gohan was only half-saiyan, so he has half the fighting instinct of a saiyan.  The other half was in the books.  
Only the facts from the show or certain movies should be discussed, because fan information can get rediculous (SSJ5 for instance, even though Bulma mentioned this in the GT Saga)puk 00:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, if Gohan could still use SSJ, he would've done it against Super Buu w/ Gotenks.--KojiDude 22:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: GT is not canon so anything that takes place there shouldn't be considered "real". I think we can assume Gohan keeps his powerup for the rest of his live.
Also, I belive Gohan could have turned SSj, but it would have no effect aside from changing his appareance, as he already uses all the power he has inside his body. --Black Omnimon 21:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary Info about the Mystic power up 

message: Just wondering if it's worth mentioning that Gohan is part demon. Considering that Chi-Chi's father is a demon. That bit is omitted from his name in the english dub, but his original name of Gyuu Mao means "Ox Demon King" (I've seen some Westernize that to "Demon King of the Oxen"). Onikage725 18:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lineage 

message: The wording of the article implies that Gohan didn't learn the Kamehameha until training with Goku to fight Cell.  However, I seem to recall Gohan doing Kamahamehas earlier than that.  There's only one I can recall with almost certainty, and it was in either Dead Zone or The World's Strongest, literally years before Cell. In one of those two movies, three characters (I think Goku, Gohan, and Krillin) did a simultanious Kamehameha against an enemy. And I think there were others in the early years of the show, but I can't recall where exactly.  4.227.105.224 20:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gohan learning Kamehameha? 

message: I have a question for anyone in the know. I have up to Super Buu's emergence in the manga, and haven't read beyond that. Does Gohan come off as stronger compared to other heroes in the manga? Because I know Gohan is supposed to be (according to Toriyama) the strongest non-fused character by the end, but having seen the anime I know there's plenty of stuff that smells like filler (but I can't say for sure) that has Goku and Vegeta rocking out more than they have any right to. Onikage725 02:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't read the Gohan vs Super Buu part, but I did see from Vegetto vs Super Buu w/ Gohan all the way to the end. In the anime Goku and Vegeta fight Super Buu inside his own body for quiet a while, but in the manga Vegeta wastes no time in pulling out Fat Buu.KojiDude 15:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gohan's full power question 

message: Attention Dragon Ball experts; Son Goten, an article that is closely related to this article is being Peer Reviewed. Please help out with the peer review by giving your opinions, statements, and most importantly; voice at the review. The peer review's page can be found here. SGFF 01:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review alert! 

message: Someone keeps changing it, and it's getting really annoying. After all, Ultimate Gohan or Mystic Gohan is him with his hidden power fully awakened. I made an edit in the hidden power section that by his early adulthood (Which is Mystic Gohan), Gohan was able to fully access his power at will, but someone keeps changing it to "partially". My point is stupid I know, but I just thought I would point that out. He wouldn't be called "Ultimate" Gohan if he still had dormant power.Majinvegeta
:It was talking about him before the power-up, not during.--SUIT42 16:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So ultimate Gohan isn't his him with his hidden power fully awakened? 

message: An unnamed person keeps editing the hidden power section to say that both Goku and Vegeta surpassed Gohan when they fought Kid Buu, making Gohan the third strongest unfused Character in the series by the end of the Buu saga. Leave it alone please, it is offically stated in the Daizenshuus (official Dragonball Guides) that Gohan was the strongest unfused Character in the series. If you have official evidence to support your claim, (other then FUNimation's Dub which has no place in official and canonical reference) please present it. Majin Vegeta
In the Manga, Gohan is the strongest in the presentation of the characters is said: "Son Gohan probably the greatest martial artist on Earth, he owes his super strengh to the fact that he is a half human half saiyan". When Buu lose gotenks transformation inside him, Goku said: "Ha, feeling weaker? the kids fusion just whore off! Gohan can handle you now! as if Goku is saying that gohan is more powerful, also when the buu inside his own body confronts Goku and Vegeta, Goku said to Vegeta "we can not defeat him" and Buu tell them: "you gonna die", the confusion comes from the anime, another think also is that without Picollo, Gohan, Goten and Trunks, Buu is weakened, then they escape, thinking that Buu is going to revert to Fat Buu or the Skiny Buu, but instead he grow stronger(than the muscular Buu, but not than super Buu), still, Gohan could beat the kid Buu, but the plot took him out so Vegeta and Goku have to fight, but is also clear that 10 years later after that Goku has been training to face Ubb, and then going to train with him, so he probably surpass Gohan by that time (probably Vegeta too as they keep training).
:Well first off I do agree with Majinvegeta but as it is said up top in the earlier section. That the manga is the one that makes the differents. It is not the anime as the anime follows the manga. In the manga someone said that Goku while inside of Buu said we can't beat him, Guy their are inside of Buu fighting Buu where inside of Buu he is basically a infinite fighter that keeps coming back like a undead person that can't die. That is why they could not beat Buu. Stop going off one simple saying and look bigger guy. 
:Also like you said Gohan was takin out of the picture so how do you know Gohan could beat Buu as Kid Buu? You don't, that is your opinion. And after Goku and Vegeta escaped it was said by Goku that his power was growing when they earlier said were weakening with was true but we got weaker to Buu's normal Super Buu form from Super (Gohan) Buu which is the strongest Buu so far. Now as it is thought the Mega Buu (muscular Buu) was consider stronger than normal Super Buu, and as Kid Buu is stronger than Mega Buu that put Kid Buu's powers up around Super (Gotenks) Buu. That puts Kid Buu in the second or third running of the strongest Buus in the manga. 
:As we know Goku was able to handle Kid Buu on an even level but as Goku's powers decrease as a SSJ3 Kid Buu's powers does not at all weaken, if anything it seemed it was slowly growing but that is my opinion on that part. So Gohan by Daizenshuu is the strongest unfused character but by manga standards Gohan and SSJ3 Goku (Not Goku in particular just that SSJ power) are somewhere on the same power level but with Goku's SSJ3 powers quickly draining his SSJ powers he gets weaker very fast. Gohan's Powers are his hidden powers that grew as he grew up with him are very normal to him. SSJ powers are a Saiyan's gene trait you have to unlock but Gohan's hidden powers have always been there in him, so when he was able to use them completely and fully under his control it was normal to him as SSJ3 is not normal even under SSJ standards. So Gohan and SSJ3 Goku are on a even level but if they fought, do to SSJ3 draining Goku's powers Goku would lose unless he may have went all out early in the fight so Gohan would win that fight making him stronger than Goku But do to the way DBZ ended many of the people want to see Goku as the strongest fighter. 
:Now does it now make sense why people think Goku is stronger than Gohan is because of Buu's powers and Goku in SSJ3 form evenly handling Buu and killing him. But with that explanation I gave I hope you see why Daizensuu may say why Gohan is the strongest and this why we use Daizenshuu to say that because it is the only official Book other than the manga itself that can give accuate and official sources.Heat P 12:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing the hidden power

message: Only a question. Should the Bros Kamehameha move that Gohan (and Goten) uses in there normal Super Saiyan form on Budokai Tenkaichi 2 be put in the powers and ablitity list? I know it is a move that is only used in Movie 10 and the game and was only named for the game's usage. However it is a move used by Gohan none the less. I think it should but i don't want to edit or as some people say vandalize the article if you guys disagree. SSD4 08:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Bro Kamehameha 

message: Well as it states, this article is a bit inconsistant in terminology. I edit the part mentioned Perfect Cell getting defeated by Super Sayain-Jin 2 Gohan but it referrs to him as an 'antroid.' Since I see a lot of sub-title jargon, I figured it would be in the best interest to not distinguish him dub mistake: considering that Perfect Cell is not an antroid, but a biological organism. Feel free to refute this, but then you must consider that you'll need to edit all terms regarding the Kais(in the article, it is noted that Supreme Kai is called 'kaioshins,'). User:Red13utterfly
:Agree, but even though Cell is actually an organism, he is referred to as an android in both English and Japanese versions. A perfect example of this same thing happening is when referring to Androids 17 and 18, who are actually not androids at all, but cyborgs. Both 17 and 18 were originally humans, but were later fitted with cybornetics. This makes them unlike (eg) Android 16 or Android 8 who are purely mechanical. --Majinvegeta 00:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Android 8 is mechanical? I didn't know that--SUIT-n-tie 07:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think it says but it is implied that he is fully mechanical.DBZROCKS 23:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistant article. 

message: Perhaps this question would be better asked on a more general page, but what tense is appropriate for recounting the events of the storyline?  As it stands, the tense shifts from present to past (and past participle, whatever that is).  I would like to edit it to make it consistent, but I'm not sure which tense to use. Paul Haymon 08:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's difficult to keep it consistent, I don't think it really matters. You are free to edit this page to past tense or present tense, I don't think that anyone really would have an issue with it. --Majinvegeta 03:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, okay.  Thanks. Paul Haymon 21:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, so which tense do you suggest?  I was going to use present tense.  Is that ok? Paul Haymon 00:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can use either tense as long as it's consistant is what I'm saying--$UIT 00:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When writing about fiction, present tense must be used. Example: "In Episode 67 of Dragon Ball, Goku defeats the Red Ribbon Army." Not "Goku defeated the Red Ribbon Army." Read about it in WP:BETTER.--Nohansen 00:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past Tense?  Present Tense? 

message: This is to correct any questions about Gohan's age. I know that many people are using Funimation to count for Gohan's while others are using the manga and Japanese anime. However I will only give you four date to show you that Gohan's was only 10 years old when the Cell games started as well as 16 at the being of the Buu saga as stated in the actual manga. Using the timeline give to us via Daizenshuu, the Kanzenban Re-Release of Dragon Ball manga and the page Timeline of Dragon Ball.
* 757 A.D. May, Son Gohan was born (actual date is never show but is between the 16th and the 26th of May.
* 767 A.D. May 26th, the Cell games begins ( in the original DB manga it was the 17th of May)
* 774 A.D. April 7th, the beginning of the Buu saga (Gohan's first day of high school)
* 774 A.D. May 8th, the defeat of Majin Buu
Now math is not my best subject but 757 and 767, that is 10 years right? But for some reason people also use his time in the Room of Spirit and Time as part of his birthday making him 11 which can make some sense but in the real time only one day past. So yes Gohan body was a full year older but technically going by his birthday and the actual time that past outside of the room Gohan was only 9 when he emerged from the RoSaT (his actual age at the time he went in) and sometime in the 10 days before the Cell games his birthday passed and that makes him 10. The reason Gohan is 16 at the beginning of the Buu Saga is because on Gohan's first day at school with was the date is  774 A.D. April 7th, a full month and a half before his birthday, also his birthday still did not pass as on the day Goku defeated Buu was on 774 A.D. May 8th, a month and a day after the beginning of the saga but still almost a full two and a half weeks before Gohan's birthday which is between 16th and the 26th of May. So Gohan during the Cell games age is 10 with a body of a 11 year old and during the Buu saga he was 16 with a body of a 17 year old. Hope now you understand this. thank you for you time to read this. Heat P 20:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age again