Talk:Gabba

message: (Originally posted by I@n on user talk page, moved here for debate.)
Links to non-existent articles ("redlinks") may be included only when an editor is confident that an encyclopedia article could be written on the subject.
Adding links to articles not yet written should be done with care. There is no need to brainstorm all occurrences of the page title and create redlinks to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics.
* Gabba (musician), a guitarist in the 1980s streetpunk band Chaos UK, now in the 2006 band ASBO Youth
:Chaos UK and ASBO youth are both redlinked so I hardly think the guitarist is going to get a page soon.  See WP:MUSIC - would he be notable per those standards?  If so, write an article.
*Armando Gabba, a baritone opera singer who performed in 1984 with Renato Bruson, Edita Gruberová, Brigitte Fassbaender, and Neil Shicoff in Rigoletto, and is still active
:Far too much detail as per WP:MOSDAB.  There should only be enough so the user can disambiguate. Armando Gabba, a baritone opera singer would suffice.
*The Georgia Allman Brothers Band Association is hardly notable and almost certainly would not survive a RfA if an article did appear
*Gabba clothing: I'd just concede that one in the hope an article appears soon.
I'm reverting accordingly. -- I@n ≡ talk 13:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, I can assure you that I have read WP:MOSDAB and was aware of it long before you pointed it out.  I grant that I did err with the bolding though. -- I@n ≡ talk 14:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't feel that strongly, but I am not sure that Armando Gabba is notable.  There are no newspaper reviews of his singing on the web, which is an indication.  So, unless someone is planning to write an article on him, I wouldn't redlink him.  Just my 2 cents/pence.  -- Ssilvers 15:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In my view, Gabba (musician), Armando Gabba, and [GABBA]] should all be deleted from this page. It is difficult to imagine an article on any of them that does not run afoul of WP:NOT. Marc Shepherd 16:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In my view, Armando Gabba is probably notable -- BUT all that stuff should not be here. An entry in a disambiguation link that wraps to a second line is a travesty. The poster up top who suggested "Armando Gabba, a baritone opera singer" has it exactly right. If you want more, start an article. It's not that hard to start a stub. \ Fnarf999 \ talk \ contribs \ 18:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Red links

message: *The guitarist: the link provided  is for the band Chaos UK, and not the musician. He has a one word mention in that article and would fail WP:MUSIC miserably.  The band on the other hand would be OK and perhaps he could be mentioned in that future article
*The baritone: the link provided  shows Armando to be one of 55 performers in a album called Everybody's Opera Album and one of 12 performers in a CD called Verdi: Rigoletto. He appeared in Puccini's Tosca at the Teatro Regio di Parma, Italy, in 1993 (review). This lists 4 other albums he's performed in.  I can find no other published reviews or mentions of his work and nothing in which he is the lead or one of the lead performers.  The music world has literally thousands of such people and there is little likelihood of any but a small percentage of those who have published or performed significant works in their own name, to warrant an article in an encyclopaedia.  I'm a bit unsure of this but sway towards exclusion.  Again, see WP:MUSIC.
*The fan club - http://www.gabba.org/:  The main Allman Brothers fan club is known as ABB Fan Club/Hittin' the Note  (named after the band's 2003 album Hittin' the Note).  GABBA seems to be some sort of offshoot organisation which organises an annual fan festival.  Non-notable.
Disambiguation pages are meant to be aids to assist readers navigate their way inside the encyclopeadia, just like Redirect pages.  Inclusion of redlinks should only be done (per WP:MOSDAB) when an encylopaedia article is likely.  DAB pages are not meant to be a listing of every possible use of the word found in a google search.  If the anon editor still feels strongly about this then the simple solution is to write an article and let the WP community determine notability based on what he's written. -- I@n ≡ talk 01:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Another review