Talk:Muscovy duck

message: I don't think this section (which mainly seems to be a set of instructions) has any place in this article at all. Any thoughts? CiaranG 20:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Humane feral duck population management

message: Does anyone know if these ducks (or if all ducks) groom each other?  A little gang of these guys live in a pond right in front of my apartment.  Often I watch one of them sort of sit on top of another in the water and peck at him/her.  It almost looks like murder (the first time I saw it, I ran outside to watch).. but the other duck eventually comes back up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryan Heuser (talk • contribs) 19:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never seen what you described, but, if it helps, the first two Muscovy ducks I ever saw in my life (two males, perhaps brothers), who lived in the park, would sometimes groom each another. However, this occurred peacefully and on land. 62.194.121.100 12:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Another explanation for one  Muscovy sitting on another is "pecking order." I own Muscovys and they are females. I observe this behavior daily. I have speculated that they are mimicking mating behavior as well. Both could be true as in many animal groups mating activity is used to establish dominance.  As far as grooming, like some other bird species my Muscovys do groom each other. They groom each other less than some, but more than other bird species. Some (but not all) of the grooming behavior appears to establish dominance. Victorcoutin 10:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  grooming? 

message: Because my ducks are in a pened up environment, I believe I can observe them closer then most people can or do.  In my last entry to this sight, I told about the pecking order of the Muscovies that I have.  My Alfa male does not fly, he is too big.  The females can fly and do leave the pen only to get me into trouble with my neighbors.  The beta duck has learned to traverse the fence so that he is with the females but because of the chainlink fence, will not mate in view of the alfa.  Yet if he is behind a solid object that alfa can not see him, he will.  
When there was a change in the flock, I gave several of my ducks to a friend that had a pond, I noticed that the females were in a disturbed state and I hung around to watch the event.  This next part took almost a whole day and I think it probably went on into the next day also.  One female was chasing another, not a fast chase, with plenty of feather pulling and emitting a "bonk" kind of sound from deep in her throat.  I could see no movement of the neck or area of the head.  The sound was very clear, like you would tap on a drum.  This female became the new leader of the flock.  She also became a big problem because she could fly and led all the females that could fly into the neighbors yards. 
One of the females built a nest in an empty box on my porch.  I did not want this duck on my porch so I removed the duck from the nest, collected 6 eggs and took the box out to the pen so that she could nest there.  The nest 4 days, she was back on my porch looking for her nest. She would leave the porch only to return a little while later looking again for the nest.  I enjoy the ducks but realize that I do not know enough about their life cycle to be able to tell you more.  1/24/07 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.132.16.26 (talk) 02:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muscovy Ducks in my pen in south Texas 

message: I reverted some edits; Caruncle is the correct word, not carbuncle. Most ducks do not quack, and I don't know offhand of any male duck that does, quacking being restricted largely to female dabbling ducks. jimfbleak 08:44, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And I also went ahead and fixed this messy discussion page. Cyborg Ninja 05:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caruncle edit 

message: Not having observed closely other duck species I find the behavior of a particular mother Muscovy duck quite unexpected. This hen currently has 10 of 15 chicks still left that are 18 days old. I have seen the mother fly away and leave the chicks for up to 15 minutes to socialize with other ducks. When she is with the clutch and decides to walk to someplace else, she does not bother to see if all the chicks are following. I see the chicks split away from the main group, often without their mother. I have also observed the chicks take off on their own from the main group to go where they want to. I have seen the mother duck participate in forced mating and also what appears to be willing mating while in the presence of her chicks.mrvax 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd mother behavior 

message: Seagulls, coots and mallards do not seem to bother the Muscovy chicks at all. I have seen them pecked at - sometimes very hard by other Muscovys. When I do see a female or male duck peck a chick, it always occurs during feeding or near a feeding area. The female ducks will peck a chick lightly until the female is chased away by the mother. I have never seen an older male Muscovy give anything more than a nudge to a chick. A young male Muscovy (5 months old) has pecked/bit the chicks quite hard and almost seems jealous of them. I observed an older male chase this juvenile away when he was about to disturb the chicks.mrvax 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How the ducks relate to the chicks 

message: I live in southeastern Kentucky and a group of Muscovy ducks arrived on our property last spring and are content being around us. They will eat cracked corn out of my hand and allowed a cat to lay next to the nest when a female was sitting on eggs. Shepherdwolf (talk) 18:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition

message: I have tagged :File:Runty,_my_little_Muscovy_Duckling.JPG, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within seven days the image will be deleted. --Chris 09:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Runty,_my_little_Muscovy_Duckling.JPG]] may be deleted 

message: This species has an IUCN status of LC (least concern) and I am changing this (again) in the entry to reflect this fact that is cited within the article.
From the IUCN: "This species has an extremely large range, and hence does not approach the thresholds for Vulnerable under the range size criterion. . . . Despite the fact that the population trend appears to be decreasing, the decline is not believed to be sufficiently rapid to approach the thresholds for Vulnerable under the population trend criterion." Cobun (talk) 04:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  IUCN Status 

message: I observed that Muscovy Ducks also eat watermeal off our pond. That was the reason we got our fledglings. The ducks are a great option in keeping the water and area clean. We are hopeful that by next Spring our pond will have no or at least very little watermeal. SAUMulerider (talk) 16:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  As Weed Control Solution 

message: The reference to the coming illegality of Muscovies came and was hotly disliked by Muscovy breeders/raisers. Then it was reformed. It seems somehow the experts at US fish and wildlife failed to realize that Muscovies are a popular domesticated breed of duck. How, I don't know. They revised the law to allow people to own Muscovies for food, but not as pets or for hunting, and they cannot be given away for free. Any edit I have ever made to wikipedia has been instantly reverted, so someone with an account needs to do it.
72.178.101.102 (talk) 10:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: 16 USC §§703, 707 & 50 CFR §21.54(c) make it a federal crime to keep a muscovy duck for personal use. You can only donate them to public museums or public institutions for scientific or educational purposes, or you can bury or incinerate them. 50 CFR § 21.54 - Control order for muscovy ducks in the United States Phil (talk) 00:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating Legal issues 

message: https://www.facebook.com/groups/GranitevilleDucks1/
Wingman1 18:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graniteville Ducks 

message: The Domestic Muscovy should also actually be Cairina sylvestris moschata. Because when first described by Linneaus, he only described the domestic counterpart not the wild. The wild variant was described later as Cairina sylvestris. 
Like other creatures compare dog to wolf or domestic goat to wild goat. You could see that the domestic counterpart is a subspecies of the wild counterpart.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.105.47 (talk) 09:32, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxonomy 

message: Why change it. It represents the most common type of muscovy duck better than the pic of a wild type. With the wild type all ready shown in the page.  Wingman1 18:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Admittedly not knowing much about the Muscovy duck, I see more pictures of white-headed ducks (like your image) than black-headed ducks (like the current lead image) in the body of the article, although both are present. So I assume that both types are already shown in the page. A2soup (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

text: We can choose a domestic type Muscovy photo if people prefer, but the previous photo was just too low quality in general. Grainy and with washed out lighting. Commons has a ton of great photos we can choose from. Steven Walling • talk  21:35, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd just agree with Wingman1 that the previous image (quality aside) was more representative of muscovy duck, as it is mostly domesticated. Materialscientist (talk) 21:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we can move the "Piebald drake" image from the domestication section to the lead, replace it with Wingman1's image, and put the current lead in the etymology, taxonomy and systematics section or the gallery? A2soup (talk) 23:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

text: Okay sorry for the late late reply, but I agree that is a good compromise,  and  Steven Walling • talk  04:00, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

text: In general, I'm in favor of showing the wild version in an article about a species, especially when that wild version is a common and widely distributed species in part of the world. That said, there are currently no images of wild birds in here. Ideally there should be enough to inform people who live in or visit the area where these occur in the wild. Also please give a reason whenever reverting anything other than vandalism. Thank you. —innotata 23:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Um they're widespread from just S of the US to N Argentina. —innotata 17:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead image 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Trumpeter Swan which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 13:45, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Nothing on the page touches on this.
Wingman1 18:17, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Muscovy Ducks as pets?

message: Is there any compelling reason why that stub needs to be separate? Even if it wasn't a stub, we usually don't keep subspecies separate. FunkMonk (talk) 16:10, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Domestic muscovy duck]] here 

message: - because I have minimal faith that you will actually be able to restrain yourself from reverting this until the cows come home - could you please demonstrate how "caruncle" (4800 Google hits) is a more commonly used term in connection with Muscovy ducks than "wattle" (20400 Google hits)? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:55, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, common usage doesn't seem to follow that, so... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:23, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As the caruncle article notes, wattles are often defined as a type of caruncle. —innotata 17:31, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wattle/caruncle 

message: ...and it really hasn't occurred to anyone that the nonsensical "Muscovy" part just might be a misinterpretation of "musk", as explained in the entire second subsection of the etymology section? Do the speculations about Muisca and whatnot really need to be in this article?
David Marjanović (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Hello, I like to take photos of animals as a hobby, and I have a couple photos you are welcome to use that I believe are a Domestic Muscovy Duck. I did not want to insert them in the article myself because I do not know much about ducks, but I will leave them here if anybody would like to use them. Here are a couple, and I may add some more later (I'll post them here too.) 
 Spongeworthy93 (talk) 22:36, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images for use