Talk:Australia national rugby union team

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message: IRB World Rankings are ever changing. Every week, or every match cause an update of team ranking score.
Is the article text auto updated after every weekend?
Cobusdebeer 19:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Ranking 

message: How can David Campese have 64 tries but only 315 points to his name? Which of these figures is wrong, sports fans? --Stormie 04:07, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
You can find a rundown of David Campese's figures at . I think the confusion comes from the fact that if he had scored 63 tries for 315 it would work out even at 5 points a try. However you then have to add in 7 penalties, 8 conversions and 2 drop goals. So how can this be? Well History of rugby union holds a clue. Up until 1992 a try was worth 4 points. So we have (7 x 3) 21 points in penalties, (8 x 2) 16 points in conversions and (2 x 3) 6 points in drop goals: 43 points in goals, 272 points in tries. So through simultaneous equations we have 48 tries @ 4 points and 16 tries @ 5 points. Zarboki 07:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[David Campese]]'s stats 

message: Please I am not a vandal and my edits were good faith. I would be willing to discuss the changes, but I thought they were a more accurate history. These are my following points. 
About the removed point, the ratings of the RL tri-nations between Australia and New Zealand had a higher t.v. audience in NSW and QLD than the Wallabies Bledisloe. Socceroos have also emerged this year as undeniably very popular too. But if you think it should be removed than whatever. The RL tri-nations at the end of this year should however be a far better indicator about RL's popularity compared to Rugby Union tri-nations this year. I am not trying to make definitve commenting on which is actually more popular at this point, just that the Wallabies and the cricket team do not stand alone at the head of the heap in terms of representing Australia internationally. So whilst that comment was true enough in say 2003, the national sporting landscape has since changed.
The Rugby Union did not exist until 1870, so the players could not have been playing Union in 1839, but Rugby football in its more ancient form. 
Dally Messenger was not poached, but heavily influenced by the than Australian cricket captain, who was at that point well payed, who made a forceful argument to him about players recieving some of the proceeds of the wealth they created. So it would be truer to comment that Messenger immediately signed up than that he was poached by an organisation he was fundamental to creating.
Rugby League did not poach Union players with money in 1908-1910, as tour money on a Rugby Union tour was worth more. They chose to play for social reasons etc. It should be noted that catholic schools took to the new sport straight away. It was a nationalistic wind that blew through creating the new professional League.
To explain the crapness and lack of dominance of the ARU until the eighties, it really does need to be remarked that the RU was for the most part played exclusively at a non shamateur level in private schools by forced exclusion of RL. That is why the Wallabies were so weak despite the fact that Australia really is the top Rugby nation.
Union players were not enticed by the money as has often been suggested but by the challenge in a harder Rugby competition that applied professional principles to its training. Ricky Stuart recently noted that he was bagged by David Campese when if he had of stayed in Union at that time he would have earned more money. It should be noted for the case of the above point that both Ricky and Wally Lewis were RL juniors who were forced to play RU by an exclusionary policy by private schools.
So therefore, I have reverted the additions but will remove that first line.
Regards
:The thing I'd take issue with was the fact that soccer didn't become established as England's premier sport until after the 1950s. Firstly the North of England is not all of England - league had virtually no following outside Yorks, Lancs and Cumbria (soccer had its stronghold in Lancashire 6 out 12 founding clubs); secondly union had very little following other than internationals until very recently; thirdly even in the early part of 20th century league was fighting a losing battle against soccer - Manningham and Bradford became soccer clubs and the rugby tradition of Manchester and Liverpool largely died out.GordyB 13:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Different matter then I think cricket was king back then with rugby in second place.GordyB 14:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a vandal 

message: This article states that 11 players from the team that played in the 1908 Olympics left for league, but other internet sites I see say 14. Ayone know which is the correct figure? Cvene64 16:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source is the ARU's official history .GordyB 20:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 14 or 11

message: This page is pretty long now, and it could be a problem for people who have a slow connection. What do people think of splitting off a History article? Cvene64 21:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Inevitable at some point. Perhaps a very brief outline could be left and then put a link to the main history page.GordyB 22:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think having the main link, with maybe three good paragraphs or so that give an overview. I tried the same thing on the England page, but it was an unsuccessful trial, and I merged it all back, as no one was editing the other article. Cvene64 08:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Anyone interested in starting some individual pages for all the notable Wallaby tours?Narrasawa 09:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable tours

message: Please contribute to the discussion about this at the WikiProject Rugby union talk page here. - Shudda talk 22:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent fixture, and Upcoming fixtures lists

message: Why no mention of the big money deals to lure high profile rugby league players to the wallabies? I think it's certainly worthy of a mention in the New Millennium section of the wallabies' history. - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeff79 (talk • contribs).
:It probably is worth a mention. You may want to add something? - Shudda talk 22:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Millennium section of history

message: There is a lack of photos in Wikipedia Commons... So if you're an australian contributor or if you see some Super 14 match or Wallabies match, please take some photos and the rights to put them in Commons to better Autralian footballer articles and Australia national rugby union team's article... thanks a lot and good work... Many pleasure... Ddfree 07:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More images

message: Nobody wants (or is able) to better this article in order to make a featured aricle... I hope that :fr:Équipe d'Australie de rugby à XV will be a featured article before the beginning of rugby world cup... and it should be easier if the english article is better... And it is easier to better english article with the help of french model... Et l'amitié franco-australienne a de beaux jours encore devant elle... Dd  Ddfree 10:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Entente Cordiale]] 

message: * Do you want to help me in order to better this article Wallabies (version française) ? It should be a very nice result... Ddfree 18:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Australia national rugby union team|Wallabies]] 

message: I've read different versions of how the Aussies were originally called the Rabbits. Some seem to think that the name was given by the British press and the Aussies disliked it so much that they came up with Wallabies to replace it. Another version is that the Aussies called themselves Rabbits before switching to Wallabies.
The version in the history is Aussie origin whereas under Wallabies it says British origin. I tend to believe the former myself. Anybody got an authoritative answer?GordyB 00:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rabbits

message: * The article in french language Australia national rugby union team (version française) is ready to be a featured article... It will be nominated for a featured article ( « Article de qualité » ) next 29 may. Ddfree 16:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Australia national rugby union team]] [[:fr:Wallabies|(version française)]] 

message: I was wondering if anyone could get a photo of a wallabies jersey. For example like this or this. It's not vital to the article but would be a good addition to the strip section. - Shudde talk 01:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wallabies jersey 

message: Very funny though it is, I don't think beating Australia 3 times in a row entitles England to keep them!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.239.159.5 (talk) 13:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RWC 2007 

message: Given the 1899 international between The Lions and Australia was played two years before Federation should the Australian national flag really be used as representatin of the Australian team. Protocol seems to indicate we use the flag representative of the team at that time. The only problem is choosing which flag (possibly the Union Jack or the NSW flag as the Australian team for that match were entirely NSWmen. Certainly the Australian flag shouldnt be used as it didnt exist at that point. 202.67.93.216 02:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

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thread_title:  Succession box discussion 

message: Change jersey should be removed. The Wallabies do not have a change jersey (as no other nation that they play wears yellow/gold). 58.178.54.24 (talk) 22:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done -Sticks66 13:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Jersey

message: First paragraph regarding the 47/48 tour states that "with England and Wales being held scoreless".  Wales actually won the test match 6-0 in 1947 with two penalty kicks (by W.E. Tamplin) according to Pollard's "Australian Rugby: The game and it's players".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandwickFan (talk • contribs) 11:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Fixed now -[[User:Sticks66|Sticks66 13:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post War section 

message: Who were the seven players from Drummoyne ? If you know can you go here and insert ? If it's tru they must be the players whose clubdesriptor is blank. -Sticks66 13:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone's fixed it, but for reference the Glebe-Balmain club changed it's name to Drummoyne when it moved to the suburb in 1930.  Hence the players marked as Glebe-Balmain could be said to have been from the Drummoyne club. --RandwickFan (talk) 08:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean someone has corrected the assertion that 7 x Drummoyne players were picked ? Doesn't look like it. The squad listing looks complete now but Drummoyne doesn't rate a mention. Not sure I agree with the Glebe-Balmain name change basis for the Drummoyne assertion. -Sticks66 03:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

text: So I've deleted the assertion of the basis that it isn't true. Even if one allows for the Glebe/Balmain link; Syd Uni, Wests and Randwcik all had more reps that Glebe/Balmain so the point is lost. -03:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 7 Drummoyne Players in 1927-28 Waratahs

message: I was wondering if the list of wallaby captains is arranged in cronological order? I think that if the list isn't arragned like that currently, that it should be changed. De Mattia (talk) 09:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Wallaby captains 

message: What's the minimum age (or legal age) for playing in the australian rugby union national team? 77.20.107.74 (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minimum age 

message: How much do australian rugby union players get paid? How much money earn this players in the national team or Super14? 88.134.214.184 (talk) 10:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earning 

message: Is there a list who contains all game results since 1899? 88.134.215.188 (talk) 18:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List with all results 

message: They're nicknamed the Wallabies, not the Qantas Wallabies.  A company can sponsor a team, but nicknames are something which occur naturally over time and are unofficial.  If most people call them the Wallabies (which they do), then that's their nickname.--58.168.79.116 (talk) 11:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

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message: The list has only got 29 names; Rob Simmons is missing.BFhybrid (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current World Cup Squad 

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