Talk:Blackfoot Confederacy

message: There is serious question whether these two performers should be listed as "Notable Blackfoot People". The book "Backstreet Brother" is described by the School Library Journal as "totally worthless" and that "almost all of the material is attributed to interviews previously printed in magazines such as Tiger Beat and Top of the Pops." An "unauthorized biography" (as the book describes itself) does not strike me as a reliable source. Neither of the official sites for the two brothers mention anything about being Blackfeet, and neither do their Wikipedia articles. 
At the anthropology blog here: http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2444&page=2 a poster says "A lot of people claim 'Blackfoot' without any connection to the Blackfeet Nation. Take a look at the Notable Blackfoot section [in Wikipedia] and you will notice what I mean. Aaron Carter- WTF? The thing that most of these 'Blackfoot' have in common is they have no link to Montana or Alberta."
This should be better sourced (if possible) or removed.
HWAshton (talk) 19:40, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Aaron and Nick Carter

message: According the the Mansfield Library at the University of Montana the Blackfoot Nation in Montana is Siksika. Hyacinth 21:50, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Siksika

message: I am personally acquainted with numbers of Montana Blackfeet and note that they invariably say "Blackfeet" not "Blackfoot," even in sentences like "I am a Blackfeet."  It's the Blackfoot River but the Blackfeet nation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.201.149.69 (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the official name of the Montana tribe (see Blackfeet), but as far as I know most other Blackfoots (those in Canada) use "Blackfoot", rather than "Blackfeet". That seems to be what this site (which I've always found to be quite reliably accurate) would seem to suggest. --Miskwito 01:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Usage:  Blackfoot versus Blackfeet

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: How about a move to Blackfoot Confederacy? That's how the article starts, and simplifies disambiguation from Siksika (which means blackfoot) and Blackfeet(Southern Piegan)? - TheMightyQuill 09:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: The article is included in :Category:First Nations in Manitoba but doesn't mention manitoba in the text. Is that a mistake? - TheMightyQuill 09:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be a mistake, yes. I removed it. --Miskwito 18:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manitoba? 

message: Had Hudson’s Bay Company employed English Doctor Edward Jenner’s forty one year old technique of injecting cowpox to make people immune to smallpox, they could have prevented the epidemic they created. < POV? Hello71 02:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV? 

message: Please add a link to the Blackfoot Digital Library : http://blackfootdigitallibrary.org/
Marinusswanepoel (talk) 23:52, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Marinusswanepoel, 8 December 2010 

message: Moved this article from 'Blackfoot' to 'Blackfoot Confederacy' and the dab page to 'Blackfoot'. I have no attachment to the current name, I merely followed the name used in the lede. Similarly, moved 'Blackfeet' to Piegan Blackfeet and then redirected 'Blackfeet' to the dab page. Links to 'Blackfoot' and 'Blackfeet' appeared to be nearly random, and did not follow the distinction made by the articles, so I've left most of them alone. I suspect that most, including the ones that used to link to the Piegan article, belong here, but they're generally too unclear for me to want to risk redirecting them. — kwami (talk) 01:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I returned the primary topic of Blackfoot to this article. Note that the article titles do not have to follow the names in the ledes. The incoming links did not appear to be random. -- JHunterJ (talk) 02:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't give a damn about what goes where, but the pair of you need to be more careful about leaving talk pages pointing in the right direction. I am sick and tired of clearing up after admins. The histories and move logs are downright incomprehensible now. For Pete's sake start using talk pages and requested move instead of deciding you know best. DuncanHill (talk) 02:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry I missed updating Talk:Blackfoot to point to Talk:Blackfoot Confederacy. I certainly didn't decide I knew best, though -- I restored the prior consensus for the primary topic of "Blackfoot" given that the bold change of it met with your objection. You're welcome. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole subject is an abject mess. we could do with a complete halt on all page moves relating to it (I defy anybody to understand just what content started out where), and a serious look at all the redirects and the conflicting usages across all related articles. We also need to review all the redirect talkpages. I've done what I can - fixed the more blatantly wrong redirects and any talkpages I've come across in the process, but as Kwamikagami pointed out, linking seems to be largely random. DuncanHill (talk) 14:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Links to 'blackfoot' may not be as bad as I thought (I'll leave it to Hunter to judge), but it seems that most of the links to 'blackfeet' did not specifically intend the Piegan. — kwami (talk) 22:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  moved 

message: This article should be split.  Half of it discusses the culture (language, religion, economy) of the Blackfoot-speaking peoples.  Half of it is the history of a political alliance between those peoples and the Sarcee and Gros Ventre called the Blackfoot Confederacy.  Its like the difference between an article on Germans, the people, and an article on the German Empire, a state that those people where a part of. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 17:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't address my question at all.  The Confederacy existed before Treaty 7, and separately from it. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 21:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackfoot an ethnic group or Blackfoot Confederacy as a political/military alliance 

message: We seem to be having some confusion over whether to use "practise" or "practice", "while" or "whilst", etc. I am proposing that this article adopt Canadian usage, since the majority of the Blackfoot people, and 3 of the 4 nations, are located in Canada. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 06:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian or American (or British) English 

message: The article under First European Contact says "Anthony Henday of the Hudson's Bay Company (HBC) met a large Niitsitapi group in 1754 in what is now Alberta. The first known meeting with European Americans came in 1806 with the Lewis and Clark expedition."... So, the intent is to say Henday is the first known Euro contact? And the Lewis & Clark group was the first USA contact?  Given there were no modern 'national borders' there at that that time, it hits me funny (I guess it's the way it's written). Engr105th (talk) 09:13, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  First European contact? 

message: I don't disagree that the Blackfoot hunted as far north as the North Saskatchewan River.  However the claim that it's name is "Ponoka" seems fishy to me.  Ponoka, Alberta is well south of the N Sask.  It is much closer to the Red Deer River.  Indeed the name ponoka means "elk" (aka Wapiti) in Blackfoot, and the Red Deer areas got it's name because the British traders in the area though the local wapiti looked like the red deer of Scotland. (see City of Red Deer "How Red Deer Got It's Name").  Unless there is another source for this, it should remain "dubious". --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 01:16, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: There is plenty of information, numerous stories and folklore on persons of the Blackfoot-Cherokee admixture of the two tribes whom lived in opposite ends of the country (USA with the Blackfoot partially located in Canada). Either the Blackfoot moved into the Southeastern USA from the Upper Plains or the Cherokee moved farther west or northward, it is known the Blackfoot Cherokee are a chapter in the story of two tribal nations when they supposedly met in the late 18th or 19th century. 71.102.13.174 (talk) 19:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackfoot Cherokee 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: Niitsítapi is not something English keyboards can type....nor the common name WP:COMMONNAME. --Moxy (talk) 04:11, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: More to the point, these are a living people, not a "former nation." The "Indians lived long ago" stuff is pretty offensive to the thousands of living people who are tribal members.  (sigh)  Montanabw(talk) 08:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move 

message: Editors of this article may be interested in a discussion at Talk:Siksiká#Page name. Cnilep (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Undiscussed moves, need to be restored.  Montanabw(talk) 08:46, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siksiká/Blackfoot language Page name 

message: Rickey and Shorty Medlock were not Blackfoot......that was only the name of rickeys band...... 64.222.226.54 (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
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message: hi
plase let me edit bu the siksika was the same thinas blacfoot. 162.246.158.210 (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:02, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018 

message: I am a struggling blackfoot single mother living in Clover South Carolina  and curious.
Last year on october 18th, my child and i were arrested and separated by york county sc. I was sober. Just missed her school bus and was legally driving her to school. My case still going through a trial. I was beat, sexually harrassed, all my civil rights were taken, for 13 days. 
I need help. Angeline West (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are the Blackfoot recognized in South Carolina during indigenous peoples day on October 18th? 

message: Fonfernan.jos (talk) 19:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload.  Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used.  ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main image from Paul Kane painting to Blackfoot Confederacy flag 

message: Change main image from Paul Kane's painting of Blackfoot Chiefs to Blackfoot Confederacy flag: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blackfoot-Confederacy-1-1280x720.jpg
Members from Blackfoot Confederacy don't see themselves in main image. Fonfernan.jos (talk) 17:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: I added the flag rather than replaced the image. George Washington won't ever see his image on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean we should entirely replace it with a logo. The same applies here. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 21:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change main image to reflect Blackfoot Confederacy  

message: Suggest removing Waiting and Mad, Charles Marion Russell, 1899. Painting of a Blackfoot woman. This is a stereotypical portrayal of Blackfoot which is not accurate--if needed it makes more sense in an independent article of colonial historical depictions of Blackfoot. Fonfernan.jos (talk) 17:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: This art museum has a description of the work, however brief, referring to it as styled based on paintings of oriental harem women, while Charles_Marion_Russell#Women describes it as being very similar in style to another work by Russell, Keeoma, for which his wife was the body model. I am not opposed to removing it, especially as it is featured already on Charles_Marion_Russell, and possibly more telling, not featured on any foreign language WP article for Blackfeet save for the Japanese page. The stylized nature of the painting leads me to believe it may not be the best fit for this article, as the painting sort of sticks out where it is in the history section, and clashes with the historical photos and more accurate depictions. I will however give it a moment just for other editors to chime in in case anybody disagrees.  A S U K I T E  23:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I've removed it. Agree with all the points  made above. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest removing Waiting and Mad, Charles Marion Russell, 1899 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Buffalo horns. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 20#Buffalo horns until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 22:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Buffalo horns" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Why does the "Origin" link to Northeastern United States 174.31.109.130 (talk) 07:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin? 

message: Golden globe winning actress, Lily Gladstone is Blackfoot and should be included with notable people. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Gladstone 27.32.161.173 (talk) 14:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2024 

message: needs to be added to notable people here 2603:6011:59F0:1F20:CCEC:B369:26F2:248F (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ronnie Radke