Talk:Enos (chimpanzee)

message: Removed the line "Enos was glad to return to earth" ... this is hearsay - being a chimp,  it's not as if Enos could have said he was glad to return to earth.
Clearly biased article
The glorifying statements are back with even more emphasis. The filmed evidence of either Enos or Ham panicking after their retrieval from the capsule is not mentioned. Also missing is the list of dangerous and extreme conditions which occurred during their test flights.
The article on Ham, the other astronaut chimpanzee, is likewise laced with glory and does not mention any risks and negative events during and after the mission.
Please also note that the stories and fates of previous projects of NASA involving animals (also involving a drowned monkey) in space and of the "quite messy" (quote by Arthur C. Clarke, no less) depressurization testing with dogs is not referenced.
docpi (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have references for this, if so, feel free to add it. Rockpocket 19:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: According to Dark Side of the Moon (Gerard J. Degroot, New York University Press) Enos had a reputation for bad behavior. He destroyed panels and equipment inside the Mercury capsule when the electric shock system used to discipline the chimps for failing to perform tasks on time began to malfunction, shocking his feet even when he followed instruction. During his postflight press converence, he removed his diaper in front of reporters and began to masturbate, earning him the nickname "Enos the Penis". (chapter 9 "The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters") BethEnd 23:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The masturbation story is a myth.  I've read interviews with the vets who handled him, and the title 'Enos the penis' was because the animal was so mean and ill tempered.  He was not a popular chimp, like the friendlier Ham.  In photos and videos of Enos, you will always noticed he is being held tightly or strapped down. DonPMitchell (talk) 09:30, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: "Enos the Penis"

message: This is one of the worst articles I've seen on wikipedia.... the idea that he celebrated his return, etc. In reality, he was continually shocked during the flight by a malfunctioning test device and upon landing attacked one of his handlers, biting him and leaving a nasty gash on his leg.
I will correct this article with proper citations when I have a chance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.42.143 (talk) 04:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: nonsense

message: LTJG A. P. Pipkin, USNR, I was the deck division officer responsible for Enos's recovery and he definitely did not walk around and shake everyone's hand on the Stormes.  He had a reputation of being very ill-tempered (even before his flight!).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.176.238 (talk) 19:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Eyewitness account

message: Can someone crop the lead image to just Enos' head and some of his arm, shoulder, and upper torso? The article is about Enos, not the posing human. Looking at the possible crop it would be a good descriptor image and wouldn't show any of the human (my cropping and uploading skills are low). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:35, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello , calling you because I just saw your good work on another cropped image and wondering if you would consider using your talents on Enos. I don't have the cropping and uploading skills needed to do this one justice. A very important chimp (VIC)! Thanks, Randy Kryn (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , :File:Mercury-Atlas 5 Enos with handler (cropped).jpg. Is this fine? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 20:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You did all of that including the page notes and templates in less than three minutes since my edit? Appreciated, and nice work. The chimps of the world thank you. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo

message: The last two paragraphs are rather confusing - One one hand it states that it is believed that Enos was dissected, then later it talks about people who did the post mortem and also that attempts to find the remains were unsuccessful but that remains were packed and sent to the Smithsonian. It is near impossible to tell what is fact and speculation. 217.23.235.71 (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Have removed the uncited "Many believe..." sentence, does this fix the concern. Thanks for pointing this out. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:32, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still confusing. I removed the whole paragraph. Plus it's been unsourced for 6 years. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:02, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted the paragraph and your See also edit. The sentence I'd removed started out "Many believe..." which isn't the same as a reasonable sounding paragraph that needs a citation. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, reverted back to your removal of the paragraph. Would be nice to have information about Enos' remains. Added Ham back to See also as he is no longer mentioned in the page text. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:35, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ham is mentioned in the 2nd paragraph of the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:56, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing