Talk:Aranese dialect

message: Hello, I just added a redirect from Aranes (see ), and indicated that it was an alternate spelling (Other spellings).  If anyone knows better, please edit accordingly.  --Jsf 00:47, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from Aranes 

message: I can't understand what "benefits, like Béarnais, from a certain linguistic normalization which keeps it original" is supposed to mean.  Can anyone translate into English?  Mark O'Sullivan 09:30, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: * That line made no sense whatsoever.  I looked for a similar statement that might have been poorly translated from the Spanish, Occitan, or Catalan versions of this article, but found none.  So, I deleted it.  —Tox 08:04, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning 

message: The article says:
:"Because of its co-official status the Aranese variety is currently one of the strongest actors in the Occitan sphere"
This sentence has two potential problems:
# It asserts that Aranese is one of the strongest actors in the Occitan sphere without clearly providing a source.
# It provides an explanation to its alleged being "one of the strongest actors". Such an explanation must also have a source.
As it is now, it's essentially weasel wording. As a minimum there should be a source for this statement. Better yet, there should be examples of notable writers or public figures that come from Aran and set the tone for the whole Occitan sphere.
I traveled for a few days in Aran and the dedication of the local government and the public to promoting the language indeed seem impressive, but i have not been in the French Occitan areas and i haven't ever studied Occitan properly. So i am not saying that this statement about Aranese is not plausible, but a better source is needed. --Amir E. Aharoni 20:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry - no explanation, so i had to remove it. If you have sources, please put it back. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  One of the strongest actors - original research? 

message: Aranese is a kind of Gascon, everyone seems to agree about that - Aitor Carrera's Aranese grammar says that, Antoni Badia i Margarit's Catalan grammar mentions it, and it appears in other sources too.
Whether Gascon is a "language" or a "dialect" - that's a matter of debate. But Aranese should be categorized under the Gascon category, no matter how it is called.
If you think that the category name is wrong, you can propose to rename it at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 22:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category - Gascon or Occitan 

message: I have added the "dubious" tag to the impossible statement in the infobox that Aranese has 250,000 native speakers. The Val d'Aran only has about 7,000 inhabitants, of which only 65% can speak Aranese, according to the referenced EU document. That would give a figure of 4,550 speakers or so. Even Fala, which is not official in Extremadura, seems to have a larger number of speakers, and even accounting for some Aranese speakers who migrated elsewhere, a figure of 250,000 seems impossible. Maybe that is the figure for Gascon, not specifically Aranese, but then it is a dubious figure anyway, as the article is about Aranese. As I could find no evidence of vandalism in the article's history and no reliable source giving an accurate number of speakers (the EU document would only allow interpolations), I decided that tagging would be the best for now.
--UrsoBR (talk) 09:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of speakers 

message: Re broken link, I don't speak Aranese, but I wondered whether this reference would this be any help: http://www.324.cat/noticia/26187/valldaran/Un-jove-de-Minnesota-prepara-el-primer-diccionari-aranes-angles  Or perhaps: http://www.324.cat/noticia/115912/altres/Presenten-el-primer-diccionari-aranes-angles Or: http://malaltsdeneu.mforos.com/20523/310088-a-minessota-es-parla-el-aranes/ Dawright12 (talk) 21:00, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the broken link. Jotamar (talk) 13:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: References