Talk:Trot

message: Isn't the "passage" image a pace, not a trot? Ciotog 15:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, on closer inspection the right hind leg is the one on the ground, but it's difficult to make out (on my system, anyway). Could this be replaced with a clearer picture? Ciotog 15:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Passage

message: Is it convention that riders are referred to as "she" and "her"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.104.110.156 (talk) 21:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Of course not. The convention for many years was to use "he" for unspecified individuals. Nowadays, many people like to use "she" as well, or even in preference to "he", as a sort of protest against this norm, I suppose. JudahH (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender pronouns 

message: If you have a problem with an edit please comment on the content of it =).
Anyway, I don't think I am alone in thinking that the gif on the Trot article is a bit distracting.  It's just that I don't think that jarring, repeating gifs should be included in the article.  As you can see on the main page, videos should be stoppable and startable and should not just play over and over again, in my opinion.
What are your thoughts on this?  Are there any videos you have that you could upload to Wikipedia instead of the gif? --mboverload@ 06:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The short length of the clip combiened with the background jump as it loops practicaly makes the opening section unreadable. The ideal solution is case would probably be an .ogg Theora video.Geni 10:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been WP:BOLD and removed the image again.  I concur with Geni - it makes it unreadable. --mboverload@ 10:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Normally, when you are going to do something fairly drastic, it's polite wikiquette to check on the talk page FIRST! (smile)  However, I won't argue that the image was jumpy.  I'll replace it with a static image for the lead.  However, these short clips are used throughout the wikipedia gait articles, as a video takes too long to load and doesn't work in this context.  I will agree that this particular image is not as well done as some of the others we have.  I'll see if I can find a Muybridge clip of the trot, may be smaller and less glitchy and put it farther down the page so it isn't the lead.  But note the Animal Locomotion template uses an animation!  Montanabw(talk) 21:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok =)  I like the page now.  Good job with the new top image. --mboverload@ 22:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked through commons and could not find a Muybridge image of the trot nor were there any other animations of the trot.  (I lack the technical expertise to do a proper animation, plus I have a slow dialup connection that makes it tough for me to review video, though if someone wants to collaborate, I would be glad to help find good stuff.  Somewhere...)   Anyway, what I just did was to restore the jerky video, but way down in the sitting trot section after all the other photos.  And I kept it small.  That should give those who care an idea of what the gait looks like but not bug everyone else.  And you must understand that the horse is GORGEOUS and performing the gait nicely.  I'm all for a less "tape loop" looking animation, but in the meantime, this one is at least using correct form.  Hope this is a reasonable compromise.  Montanabw(talk) 22:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No still makes that section horrible to view. it should be posible to show a trot through a video.Geni 04:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find one and replace the animation with something else, I'm OK with a replacement. But from what I've seen, videos don't load at all well over a dialup or other slow connection, so I don't favor using them for information critical to the article, just having them linked at the end as an additional external source is better.  I guess it's a style question, but iffy quality beats nothing at all, IMHO.  I find the image a minor annoyance, but it's small and easy to ignore, at least on my computer.   If someone can find an Edward Muybridge clip of a trotting horse somewhere, those, though old, seem to come through without any problem. And they are probably free.  I'm afraid I just don't have the time to go dig anything up. Montanabw(talk) 19:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and on my computer, all there is is a little hitch in the image when it loops.  I guess I am not really sure what the problem is here?  What computer or OS are you using?  (I guess I have no clue what IRC is or how it's different from main wiki...?)  Montanabw(talk) 20:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: standard windows XP but that isn't the issues I've downloaded the pic and played with the timeings of the frames and can't find a way to make it less anoying.Geni 10:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh well, maybe we can find a Muybridge clip, he did a pacer, there must be a trotter too, as he documented the moment of suspension.  I'm afraid I'm too busy with other brushfires to do so at the moment... Montanabw(talk) 20:16, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

text: It makes some sense to have an animated clip higher up, though not as a lead image.  IThis discussion was eight years ago when support for animations was weaker and we didn't have as much material.  Montanabw(talk) 22:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trot animation