Talk:Marlena Evans

message: I placed the POV tag on this article because it has obviously been written by a Marlena fan, and while that is very nice that people are invested so much in Days, you also have to remember that there is a neutrality policy that we follow here. Flowery prose like "well-respected and much loved psychiatrist" and "very popular character" have to go, and the rest of the article needs a heavy re-edit. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 06:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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message: She has been on the show since 1976. She was already a trained psychiatrist when she came to town. You just don't get that training by the age of 20. Please someone get a source and verify this, from a book and not a website, please. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 06:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, can anyone cite maybe a screenshot or something like that? Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 08:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The tombstones of most of the characters were incredibly false though, and made almost everyone younger than they were. The character of Sami, after aging, was born in 1977. There's no way Marlena had her and Eric when she was 21, when the character was already a psychiatrist, and had already been married before. --Harlequin212121 07:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: even if they don´t have names or we now the sex of them somebody should put the child Marlena has or had with Alex North and the child she miscarriage with Roman Brady, and also think that Johnny her former foster son should be put up there as well.
There was no record of a child with Alex North, that is purely fan fiction. It is against wikipedia policy to make up baby names. This site is about VERIFIABLE information ONLY. Not about fan fiction. Please do not continue to add your own fiction to these articles. Rm994 (talk) 22:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: Per policy, decorative images serving no point to illustrate the scope of an article are a violation of image policy. However, given the depth and length of this character's impact on the history of the show, there is debate as to which ones should be allowed to remain. Any thoughts? Obviously, images would have to remain in fair use guidelines. Thanks :) Rm994 (talk) 20:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really active in the area of soap characters, just dropped by because of the history with a certain IP user :) I don't see a problem (as far as policy goes) with using free images of the actress to "decorate" the article. Obviously you wouldn't want to shove in image upon image just because they are available, but otherwise images of the actress are ok. Non-free images should very rarely be used and only if they convey something that cannot be conveyed to the reader through text alone. There does tend to be some leeway with having one image under fair-use for fictional character articles, to show what they look like. The presence of :File:Marlena.PNG is absolutely unnecessary. The fair use rationale says that the purpose is "To represent a very large storyline...", but that is extremely tenuous. Can you really say that taking out the image would be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the topic? The reader already knows exactly what the character is from the other pictures, and the picture doesn't show anything else. Be careful about using non-free images. Just because there is a rationale, doesn't mean that the image should be used. If this article was at FAC, it might even be argued that no non-free images should be used at all since there are plenty of free ones. I looked at FA Pauline Fowler to compare and was surprised to see so many non-free images there. It was promoted in 2007 though and I don't think it would get through an image review at FAC nowadays with so many.--BelovedFreak 20:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd keep Image number 1 in the infobox, the second image for the casting section, the picture of Hall and Hopdgestyn together IRL, for the development section, aslong as it's explained that as actors they repeatedly discussed their SL's because of the new coverage they generated. The final image of the doll is the final one I'd keep... All others should be removed IMO as they are just further images of Hall, which only one can be used to illustrate the casting section. Image 4 - MarlenaPNG is one that doesn't really need a discussion it doesn't add much and it's not a free image. I know about Pauline, like you said though she was promoted when the policies were not as tight. (Also, the GA review of Marlena, it wasn't given much time for any improvements to be made was it? It's a shame though, this is one of the best American soap character articles seeings as most are just banks of storylines which have no place. Has potential.)RAIN*the*ONE BAM 20:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't put the GA review on hold because it needed far too much work on it and I was already pretty sure that the nominator was a sock of an indef blocked user. As you are well aware, there are always backlogs at GAN and sometimes failing without going on hold is the best option. It certainly has potential though. You're good at this kind of article, so go for it! :) --BelovedFreak 21:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh a sock puppet, nevermind then, only just looked at the main editor and they're blocked for that reason. I might have a go sometime, right now I have quite a few in the GA cue (Which have been waiting months lol). But atleast half the work is done here on Marlena, so it's definetly on my radar.. :)RAIN*the*ONE BAM 22:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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