Talk:Taxman

message: According to this, Harrison added more lyrics to this song after The Beatles recorded it. (The video is of him and Eric Clapton, Live in Japan, 1991, so who knows when the lyrics were added.) Anyway, I figure the addition should be mentioned in the article. They also changed the names (Mr. Wilson and Mr. Heath) to something more current (I presume, as I'm not too familiar with UK officials, especially from back then).
The new lyrics, from what I can gather, are:
:If I reduce it down, you'll see (Taxman/I promise, you'll see)
:You'll get back more with the VAT (ah, ah, Mr. Bush)
:'Cause I'm the taxman
:Yeah, I'm the taxman
:If you get a head, I'll tax your hat
:If you get a pet, I'll tax your cat
:If you wipe your feet, I'll tax the mat
:If you hold the weight, I'll tax your fat
—Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 08:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New lyrics 

message: Since there is no doubt that the similarity between this song and the "Batman" TV series theme song are intented and obvious, I have restored the passage about this which Night Gyr removed for no apparent reason. --Sangild 20:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Show me a source and I'll believe you, otherwise it's just your own beliefs, which is original research. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 20:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source is the song itself. It is a satirical musical quote that anyone can hear if they know the TV theme song. It is not an interpretation, not "my own beliefs", but rather a fact. If you want sources for all evident facts there would never be a Wikipedia. For whatever it is worth, look here or here. What do you want? A scholar stating in a peer reviewed article that the quote is in fact a quote? Or a specification the the very unusual chord and rhythm are identical and that the Batman theme was very popular and well known at the time and that George Harrison watched it? These are all facts, not beliefs. --Sangild 11:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batman 

message: The recent "Harrison set the record straight ..." comment in the article appears to be a reaction to a change where I moved the bass credit from Harrison to McCartney. In the Crawdaddy article, Harrison does not say he played bass on "Taxman". He says he sometimes played bass—which we all knew—but his specific comment about "Taxman" says only that McCartney played the lead guitar. That's pretty well-known and not in dispute. (Ian MacDonald says McCartney played the solo, but gives credit to Harrison for lead guitar also, presumably for playing lead parts elsewhere in the song.)
MacDonald says that McCartney played bass on the song. (WP:OR warning: it sounds like Macca to me.) The Crawdaddy interview does not contradict that. Is there specific evidence that Harrison played bass? If not, the bass credit should be given to McCartney. I will do that, and cite MacDonald, subject to further discussion here.
John Cardinal 17:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who played bass? 

message: Why is the artist in the sidebar thing listed as Leo K?
Shj95 (talk) 09:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artist 

message: It says here that Harrison's song was in response to the 95% tax, but I always thought the "one for you, nineteen for me" line was an exaggeration or a joke. Why is there nothing on Harold Wilson's page talking about the 95% tax rate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.1.161 (talk) 05:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 95% tax

message: I'm pretty sure the "Anybody got a bit of money" lines in the Anthology version aren't triplets. They sound like straight 16ths.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.158.227 (talk) 23:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triplets? 

message: I AGREE WITH Sangild, Obviously both song are very similar, and  probably the ispiration of  a "tax-man" was a "bat-man"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.188.212.9 (talk) 07:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batman 

message: Not sure how to list this, but the cough at the beginning of the song was done by Swinging Radio England disc jockey Ron O'Quinn.  There aren't sources for this type of info.  Ron is my father.  He accompanied the Beatles for the full duration of their 1966 US tour.  He was in the studio at Abbey Road during the recording of Taxman.  The cough was done by Ron O'Quinn, but I have no way to source this info other than asking my father.  Any ideas of what I can do for citing?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seminolechief (talk • contribs) 12:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We need a reliable source for something like that. Are you sure there are no sources for it? I assume there were magazine articles about O'Quinn; none of them describe the cough? — John Cardinal (talk) 14:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cough 

message: It sounds like John to me. In fact it sounds very like John, and not remotely like George. It's possible that it was George - it was one of his early songs and he was strongly under John's influence at that time (he might well have copied his style) - but I'd be interested to know the source for stating that George was the lead vocalist and John the backing vocalist, rather than the other way round. Brooklyn Eagle (talk) 04:53, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we could list the source(s) that state George is the lead vocalist but we'd have to list every source, every book, periodical and newspaper article that discusses the song and of course the album liner notes themselves which clearly state that George is the lead singer but that would be quite the list. There is no ambiguity here: all sources confirm without question that George sings lead on this song. freshacconci talktalk 11:28, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are we sure that George sings it? 

message: According to Ian MacDonald, George played lead guitar on "Taxman" and John C. Winn says that John played guitar on the song as well. I have reverted an edit.
203.63.142.15 (talk) 07:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation errors 

message: The article says that Taxman is hard rock.  Seriously?  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:06, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxman is hard rock? 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Harrison didn't play the solo because he wasn't always very good at performing solos in the studio. The first hand evidence is Geoff Emerick - he was there, he engineered the song, and he said McCartney played it because the band were fed up with Harrison's lacklustre solo. Completely disregarding a first hand account, in favour of some random biography (one of hundreds that exist on the band) isn't very good evidence gathering, and smacks of trying to rewrite history a bit  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.255.43.17 (talk) 21:55, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Ian MacDonald is one of the most authoritative sources in existence. Referring to him as "some random biography" is like referring to Elizabeth II as an obscure world figure. Your claiming that Emerick said something doesn't make it true. You have not provided a source (claiming that Emerick said something without referencing a source is meaningless). Non-issue. Sundayclose (talk) 23:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Solo

message: From Background and inspiration: 'As their earnings placed them in the top tax bracket in the United Kingdom, the Beatles were liable to a 95% supertax introduced by Harold Wilson's Labour government; hence the lyric "There's one for you, nineteen for me"' The lyric specifically refers to the fact that the supertax rate takes 19 shillings from each pound taxed, leaving one shilling for the person or business being taxed, one pre-decimal shilling coin being equivalent to five decimal new pence. Robert P Connolly (talk) 16:40, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add a reliable source for your edit. See WP:V. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 17:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "One for you, nineteen for me" 

message: The article refers twice to a "guitar riff" by Harrison. I can't hear him playing anything but chords in this song. Surely what is meant is "Paul's bass riff". Which is the part that the Jam borrowed and the part that most people associate with this song so how is Paul not credited with songwriting is beyond me. 86.63.168.150 (talk) 01:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harrison's "riff"