Talk:Gaelic type

message: Be patient as I clean up the pictures and all. Obviously I took this over from Fraktur (typeface). Evertype 15:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work! – Kaihsu 10:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New article

message: Angr, there are going to be some more insular letters added to Unicode, yes. Evertype 15:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool! Does Unicode provide different codes for "long r" and regular r? (Long s I know about.) User:Angr 16:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's U+017F ſ LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S and U+027C ɼ LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH LONG LEG. But what is proposed is capital and small insular D, F, G, R, S, and T, plus capital and small turned insular G, capital and small turned L, and capital turned A. Evertype 18:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently under ballot are U+A779 Ꝺ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR D, U+A77A ꝺ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR D, U+A77B Ꝼ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR F, U+A77C ꝼ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR F, U+A77D Ᵹ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR G, U+A77E Ꝿ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER TURNED INSULAR G, U+A77F ꝿ LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED INSULAR D, U+A782 Ꞃ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR R, U+A783 ꞃ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR R, U+A784 Ꞅ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR S, U+A785 ꞅ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR S, U+A786 Ꞇ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR T, U+A787 ꞇ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR T.  U+1D79 ᵹ LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR G is already encoded. -- Evertype·✆ 11:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insular letters 

message: In both text samples (fig. 1 and 2) there are both letters with dot above and the corresponding digraphs with h. Is this supposed to be correct? I thought that in a real old typeface you should only use the combinations with dots, though I see that the old font is very decorative and therefore probably often used with the new orthography – but one should certainly not mix up h- and dot-spellings, or is there a reason for this? --Daniel Bunčić (de wiki · talk · en contrib.) 20:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The sample shows the use of Gaelic script in modern Irish orthography as well as traditional Irish orthography. It's OK to mix them in a sample text. -- Evertype·✆ 07:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  dh, ch etc. in old typeface? 

message: Would anyone have the knowledge to make a section about the changeover from Gaelic to Roman script? For example, why did it happen, who made it happen, where there economic or political reasons for this, was its changeover controversial? It appears to be a big issue in books by Irish scholars, for example Regina Uí Chollatáins book An Claidheamh Soluis agus Fáinne an Lae 1899-1932.
Frainc 11:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's anyone out there listening (the previous post is dated 2006), I second this request. I remember starting learning Irish in the old script in the late 50's and then switching over to the "Roman" script with "h". I came to this WP page to check the date of the change and miss not being able to find it. There must have been a specific school year when the change was made.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.241.112 (talk) 15:41, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: From Gaelic to Roman

message: is intended to select Gaelic fonts if installed. dab (𒁳) 09:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: {{tl|Gaelic}}

message: Why Gaelic Script given that Irish and not Gaelic is used extensively for the language in Ireland?Eog1916 (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called an cló Gaelach. Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx Gaelic are all Gaelics, all deriving from the people who lived on the island of Ireland. In popular parlance, these are shortened to Irish, Gaelic (pronounced like Gallic in Scotland), and Manx. -- Evertype·✆ 08:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Irish Script

message: There is some discussion going on at that the Talk page for that template regarding the classification of typefaces and the place of Gaelic in the paradigm. -- Evertype·✆ 17:49, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antiqua, Blackletter, Gaelic and the [[Template_talk:Typography_terms|Typography terms Template]]

message: This article does not present a coherent view and mixes up two different concepts: the Irish alphabet/writing system and a style of typefaces. The infobox makes the article seem to be about a character set (alphabet) used in Irish, while the lead makes the article seem to be about typeface style. Furthermore, the "Characteristics" section, which currently has no inline citations, expands this problem by suggesting a stylistic classification of typeface depends on the character sort [that's like saying Futura magically stops being a geometric sans-serif face if it doesn't contain the euro symbol (€)]. If you have typefaces with the appropriate characters, you can set Irish in both Helvetica and Colmcille. Similarly, you can set English (or French for that matter) in both Helvetica and Colmcille. This article does not make that distinction clear. If we are to have an article about a typographic style, then it needs to focus less on the Irish language and remove completely the Characteristics/Unicode stuff. Type classification transcends national identity (though that aspect is important in the early history). Conversely, if we are to have an article about Irish typography, then we need to focus less on the single style. Another option would be to have an article about the use of a specific typographic style in the context of Irish language printing (but it'd be strange to limit the scope of an article like that, because where would we discuss Irish printing that wasn't in that style? and where would we discuss the style when used for non-Irish typesetting?) Assuming others agree with me that this article needs more focus, what should the focus of this article be? and can the other concepts be merged with existing articles, or could we create new articles to cover the scope of those?-Andrew c [talk] 23:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to work to improve this article, but one can hardly begin while the other matters under discussion are still in dispute. -- Evertype·✆ 01:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of focus, too many topics mixed together 

message: Is there anyone who can change the image so that 'Gaelic' is spelled correctly? - anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.150.152 (talk) 01:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Which image? The one in the infobox that says "Gaelaċ"? That is spelled correctly, as an Irish word. +Angr 09:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the image 

message: Gaelic type was never traditionally used for either of these languages. -- Evertype·✆ 16:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidence? I've heard 'twas. /CrossOfDalriada (talk) 23:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidence for a negative? Should be easier to demonstrate its use, if it was so used. RashersTierney (talk) 01:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish Gaelic and Manx 

message: I'd prefer to use the Gaelic versions of the letters in this comment, but I can't see how to. Anyway, it's unfortunate that the Irish word chosen to represent the script ('Corcaigh') would never in fact be written with an 'h' in that script - instead, the 'g' would be dotted, just like the 'c' in 'Gaelach' at the very top. The 'h' is an anglicism, so what we see here is a false piece of written Irish based on incorrect conversion from the anglicised version of the script. In the true Gaelic script, 'h' is a very uncommon letter (mainly used in rare grammatical constructions such as 'Poblacht na hÉireann' = 'Republic of Ireland'), whereas in the anglicised version it's one of the most common, because it's used for every single consonant with the phonetic mutation called séimhiú ('bh, 'ch', 'dh', 'fh', 'gh', 'mh', 'ph', 'sh' and 'th' - which in the true Gaelic script would simply be dotted 'b', 'c', 'd', 'f', 'g', 'm', 'p', 's' and 't'). In short, 'Corcaigh' is about the worst example you could have thought of! I leave it to someone with greater expertise than I have to suggest a more suitable alternative, though 'Saorstát Éireann' = 'Irish Free State' - which has no séimhiú consonants - might not be bad.46.189.28.182 (talk) 17:04, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corcaigh in 'Gaelic script' 

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