Talk:John Constantine

message: The first named appearance of Constantine was drawn by Rick Veitch, inked by John Totleben. This source:
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050228/NEWS/502280387&SearchID=73201566900517
indicates he is a co-creator, so I been bold and added him as such. I don't have Hellblazer issues handy but I assume that the co-creation credits are for Moore, Bissette and Totleben only, matching DC's offer of movie royalties to those 3 only? I accept that is a case against listing him as co-creator. On the other hand, when Moore refused his movie royalties he re-distributed them to Bissette, Totleben AND Veitch suggesting that Moore considers him a co-creator. Thoughts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yugyug (talk • contribs) 13:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rick Veitch

message: Ok, so it's a comic, and there's magic to boot, but an unborn child strangling another? Should the text instead read that Constantine's brother was strangled by Constantine's umbilical cord? 67.188.201.40 (talk) 08:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: While I haven't read this part of Hellblazer yet, the same thing happened in New X-Men where an unborn Xavier strangled his twin. So, it's not that unheard of in the world of comics.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.98.199.50 (talk) 21:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Constantine strangled "Golden Boy", his brother, with his umbilical cord, in the womb. "Deliberately", or as deliberately as an unborn child can commit murder. Of course, John doesn't remember it. It's the cause of fate going the wrong way.  Doubtless some magical influence caused it, somewhere, but I don't think we ever find out exactly what. 188.29.165.20 (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strangled brother? 

message: Edit warring is not going to help with the GA nomination! Wesleydodds does have a good point on the level of cruft in some sections, and I am sure that if you both discuss a reasonable middle ground, rather than reverting eachother's edits, this article might actually be in with a good chance of making GA! Now, in the politest possible terms, SORT IT OUT!!! Benny Digital Speak Your Brains  08:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed material that was not supported by reliable secondary sources. If secondary sources do not comment on something, then it's not noteworthy. The Powers and abilities section is based entirely on the comics themselves, which aren't reliable sources since they are works of fiction and fiction is malleable. The entire section should be excised unless we can find an out-of-universe secondary source (a scholarly paper or a book about the history of comics or something along those lines) that analyzes the depiction of the character's abilities. Also, I am unaware of any grammatical errors I might have made, but if there were any, I apologize; I tend to fix my mistakes rather quickly. WesleyDodds (talk) 14:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning 

message: The page's plot really needs major trimming, but the fancruft's almost dissolved. I advice NOT to touch the Powers and Abilities and Media section too much. The Power section musn't be touched, especially the examples because Constantine is marked as a mage, but I've read some Hellblazers and he doesn't used much magic, that's why the examples needs to stay to make a clear descriptions of what magic he can do. Wesley removed much of the important stuffs in the OTHER MEDIA section and made horrendous grammar writings, everything about this fictional character needs to count. I'm doing what i can for the plot but i'm gonna need real help from pros and experts of Hellblazer. Godzilladude123 (talk) 09:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed material that was not supported by reliable secondary sources. If secondary sources do not comment on something, then it's not noteworthy. The Powers and abilities section is based entirely on the comics themselves, which aren't reliable sources since they are works of fiction and fiction is malleable. The entire section should be excised unless we can find an out-of-universe secondary source (a scholarly paper or a book about the history of comics or something along those lines) that analyzes the depiction of the character's abilities. Also, I am unaware of any grammatical errors I might have made, but if there were any, I apologize; I tend to fix my mistakes rather quickly. WesleyDodds (talk) 14:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Just the answer I needed

message: See here This would make a good source but I don't have the time to add it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:41, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excellent write-up in The Vulture 

message: Any explanation? Who is he? Martin burd (talk) 01:50, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Look []. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:15, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

text: Read "Original Sins", the collection of the first few issues of Hellblazer. Papa Midnight was in the first story to run in Hellblazer. He came back in some later ones. He's basically a voodoo gangster, who makes a lot of money and seemingly owns his own tower in New York. He runs a nightclub, among other things. Of course after tangling with Constantine in a later story, things don't end well for him. 188.29.165.20 (talk) 16:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  papa midnight john Constantine 

message: Could someone please explain why there is a picture of a dude cosplaying, but not a picture of Matt Ryan as Constantine? john k (talk) 14:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

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message: when did John first appeared?
in Swamp Thing Vol. 2 No. 25 (June 1984)?
or
The Saga of Swamp Thing #37 (June 1984)?
What is the difference between these two books?
I'm confused about the different statements in the article.
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thread_title:  first appearance 

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message: This article makes two dubious assumptions regarding Johanna's appearance in the upcoming Sandman TV series. First is the claim Jenna Coleman is playing two characters by that name. There has been no indication of this. Second is the statement "in a main capacity". Coleman only filmed for a few weeks and stated in interviews that she had wrapped the role before she was officially announced as having been cast. She has spent the spring of 2021 filming another movie and working on her own TV series, The War Rooms. More likely her appearance will be minor. This too is supposition - point being we cannot say how much of a role she will have in the series. 70.73.90.119 (talk) 17:57, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy questioned re: Johanna Constantine on TV

message: “Constantine is notable for the fact that some of the people who wrote his stories have claimed to see him apparently showing up in real life despite him being a fictional character.”
The elephant in the room aside, is he really “notable” for this? 138.78.225.88 (talk) 02:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious statement in the intro 

message: Ah Yes!, i too saw him. such a bullshit smh. These are just pure advertising tactics of writers to promote their content. but the question is why are we promoting this FANPOV. the real life appearance section should be removed entirely. RamaKrishnaHare (talk) 15:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion to remove Real Life appearance section.