Talk:Xuyun

message: Is there any actual confirmation of Xu Yun's age at the time of his death? Longevity myths, particularly about religious figures, are very popular (Methuselah, etc). Wilybadger (talk) 02:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to add that a lack of proper sourcing for the birth date calls into question the veracity of the biography, which is already hindered by unnecessarily flowery language that might cross into mythologizing. Paul F Villerius (talk) 01:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Xuyun was born at a time period where there were no birth certificates.  Moreover in Qing Dynasty China, there were no document equivalents to baptismal records. His birth year can only truly be verified through the paternal family history books - a set of books kept by his clan and updated periodically within a set timeframe for male members of the Xiao clan.  Whether these books still exists is unknown as many of these books were destroyed during the Cultural Revolution. The controversy with Xuyun's  birth date is due to his remarkable longevity and the fact that he was not a public figure (i.e. politician, etc.,)  There are lots of scholastic speculation as to his actual birth year.  But they remain speculative. Hanbud (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age Confirmation 

message: What in the article may violate the Neutral Point of View Rule of Wikipedia? As there are no hints here, I will remove the warning in the article; it may be set again when the cause is explained here. --Bernd.Brincken (talk) 16:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just read through the article, and does have a number of what might be called WP:NPOV issues - the consistent referral of Xu Yun as "the Master", etc. - which need to be edited into an encyclopedic style.  I might work on this more.  White Whirlwind  咨  17:21, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

text: are you even serious? the article is non-stop BS from start to finish, how can you even doubt it? 86.129.204.178 (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV warning 

message: To any editors who read this, please consider helping out in the improvement of this article on an interesting individual.  The article currently has numerous issues, including:
#It originally had "the Master" throughout, instead of the subject's Buddhist name Hsu Yun (Xu Yun).  I've fixed nearly all of these instances, but some may remain.  If you see one, please correct it per WP:NAMES.
#It is largely copied from a single biography published on a certain website.  This creates a significant WP:1R problem.  Please either:
##Add more sources, or
##Delete some of the current material.
#Because the article is copied from a Buddhist source, it contains significant language that is reverential and praising of the subject.  This violates Wikipedia:encyclopedic_style and WP:NPOV, which states that articles' styles "should always remain formal, impersonal, and dispassionate."
#The article used Wade-Giles for place-names within China.  These need to be converted to Hanyu Pinyin.  I got most of them, but if you see any, please fix them.  For personal names, Wade-Giles is ok as long as they're cited as such in a reputable source.
Thanks in advance.  White Whirlwind  咨  03:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup Help Request 

message: I propose that it would be better to use the Pinyin version rather that the Wade Giles version of the name and therefore call the article Xu Yun  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guttormng (talk • contribs) 11:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hsu Yun to Xu Yun 

message: For one example, the use of "defiled" and "undefiled" to describe individuals. Such copy reads like a sermon, not an encyclopedia article. Laodah 20:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Still has glaring POV problems