Talk:European Union citizenship

message: How can the concept of EU citizenship have been introduced by the Maastricht treaty in 1992, when it is explicitly referred to in a treaty nearly 40 years before? -signed everyone  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.142.47 (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: WHAT?!?!

message: Nationals of Denmark are now Union citizens, following the Treaty of Amsterdam. See the following:
*http://www.eu-oplysningen.dk/euo_en/dkeu/edinburgh/
*http://www.um.dk/en/menu/EU/TheDanishOptouts/
*http://www.um.dk/Publikationer/UM/English/FactsheetDenmark/DenmarkAndTheEuropeanUnion/html/chapter01.htm
*http://www.denmark.dk/en/menu/AboutDenmark/GovernmentPolitics/DenmarkAndTheEU/TheDanishOptouts/
Dubitante (talk) 11:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denmark 

message: You dont need to put this is in even its stupid information cant we just have information regarding EU Citizenship for all Europeans instead of this two tier crap, it actually is not two tier.Pryde 01 (talk) 13:53, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Arguments used in support of the two-tier view

message: This article lacks information on how Citizenship of the European Union will work after the treaty of lisbon is ratified. I don't now enough about the subject to write about it myself. Nxsty (talk) 12:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The treaty of lisbon 

message: This article needs some serious rewriting, as is noted and which hasn't been changed sufficiently to remove since January (2009). The Citizen Rights Directive section can be removed and simply put in the preceding section, as it does not warrant its own section which has a single statement. Similarly, the mention of different treatments of different nationalities within the EU, with 'third countries' and the potential for 'second-class citizens', is POV and doesn't address the point that a UK or Swedish national derive their rights to international travel from their respective member state, as do citizens of Romania or Bulgaria, with EU citizenship not acting as the basis by which they can enter a country visa free (unless this is specifically the case, in which case you'd need to cite the reference). Finally, there are numerous examples of non-cited statements, such as the reference that EU (and international) law would not allow a member state to grant citizenship to members of a non-member state. In the EU context, for instance, there are issues which could be brought up from the French and British examples, through their remaining colonial possessions. The UK granting British citizenship to all its British Overseas Territories citizens (with some exceptions) would be an excellent example of this, if someone did the research to show what the EU's legal position was, but it equally shows that there is no international law which forbids this (as the UK did it). So there needs to be better structuring and citations. I'm bringing this up so that people can respond, but this article will need to be cleaned up.  Roche-Kerr (talk) 02:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructring and citations 

message: The table on acquisition of member state citizenships by birth, descent, naturalization, etc is in need of completion and clarification. We must clarify what the column headings mean.
1.  Any conditions including a child's birth in the country should be placed in the "birth" column, NOT in the "descent" column, even if the parents are mentioned in the wording.  Only conditions providing for the inheritance of citizenship without birth in the country should be placed in the "descent" column.
This is because no EU country's laws use pure jus soli -- most lean towards jus sanguinis.  This means that all items in the "birth" column, except for those relating to foundlings, will include conditions about the parents' citizenship, or at least about their long term residence. 
2. What do "yes" and "no" mean in the "marriage" column?
All EU countries eventually grant marriage to cohabitating resident spouses of citizens.  No EU country grants citizenship immediately upon marriage.  So what do all the "no"s in this column mean?  Perhaps the author of the "yes"/"no" items is referring to the eventual acquisition of citizenship without residence in the country (e.g. France, Italy)? These binary responses should be explained/removed/replaced.
3. The table is in need of completion. EUDO Citizenship Observatory and wiki pages like Swedish nationality law, Hungarian nationality law etc might help.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnorpsk (talk • contribs) 22:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship Acquisition TABLE 

message: I unfortunately did not enter my full edit summary for my most recent edit. For the record, I would have said, "Ok, some points: One, fixing  and including largest countries by population in order of population. Two, for the love of God, don't play favorites on Wikipedia. And three, they are useful because they symbolize the mix of unity and soverignty in the EU." Trinitresque (talk) 21:01, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport edit 

message: This section needs more reliable sources. If you can please add reliable sources. Hingeabaciu (talk) 02:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary of member states' nationality laws

message: The dual citizenship has principle that it is allowed only for citizens who obtained citizenship but not for those who got it in naturalisation.
However for some countries it has worded as no, and for some countries as yes. Maybe to add another colour, which categorises these separately from yes and no.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.7 (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual citizenship in the table of summary of citizenships 

message: "(one cannot be an EU citizen without being a national of a member state)."
What is this based on? The language of Art. 20 TFEU is not exhaustive and does not expressly restrict citizenship of the Union to nationals of member states. Art.19 TEU stipulates that the CJEU shall ensure that in the interpretation and and application of the treaties the law is observed. This leaves the possibility of citizenship of the Union extending to a non-national where it would be inconsistent with fundamental law otherwise. The categorical assertion that 'one cannot be an EU citizen [citizen of the Union] without being a national of a member state' as far as I know has no foundation in EU law whatsover.  
I know that this assumption is widespread and made in various textbooks and websites. However this is neither acte clair or acte eclaire, i.e. this is an unsubstantiated opinion and unquestioned assumption, not an established fact.
Dannizen (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  The announcement that the EU may allow British nationals to keep EU citizenship after Brexit suggests they share your interpretation. Stub Mandrel (talk) 11:43, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acquisition 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Some recent changes, spread out over a number of sections/sub-sections and probably related to Brexit, appear to be  arguing a legal case for EU citizenship that is not contingent upon the citizenship of a member state from time to time. The legal arguments do not appear to be sourced or attributed and seem to be stated or implied in Wikipedia's voice. I would suggest that we restore the version before these changes were made -- before they get too entangled with unrelated changes. --Boson (talk) 15:18, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I copyedited the IP's text. Perhaps allow 3 days for citations to to found? (I see that you've already placed the appropriate template.) --BushelCandle (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK. I have now removed the section on the result of "no deal". --Boson (talk) 08:50, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Contingency of EU citizenship on citizenship of a member state

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: Are British nationality law and Irish nationality law common and consistent defining categories of European Union citizenship law ? I don't think so. The EU does not belong to the UK.
Also,  European Union law is a parent category of European nationality law, and thus not needed here per WP:PARENTCAT. Same for Human migration, which is a Parentcat of European nationality law. Frenchl (talk) 10:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories