Talk:Roronoa Zoro

message: This ought to be deleted or merged with the main article.
:Done.  --Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 17:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm... You did check the date on the previous comments right? Angel Emfrbl 10:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete/Merge

message: Why is Zoro listed as Zolo, yet Smoker is listed as Smoker, not as Chaser? Ken Arromdee 03:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I have moved this article to "Roronoa Zoro", per discussion on Talk:One Piece.
* Why is it back to Zolo again? C Ronald 17:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are talking about something that happened months ago... It hasn't changed since the final was declared late last year.  See the text in the dotted box below.  We had a GREAT load of discussion about it.  O.o'  Angel Emfrbl 18:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zolo -> Zoro 

message: I don't know about anyone else, butZoro's bounty isn't showing.
* On the subject of his bounty, it says that he got a 60,000,000 beri bounty after defeating Mr.1. This is untrue, from what I know, he got that bounty after it was learned that he defeated 100 bounty hunters at Wiskey Peak, not because he defeated Mr.1. That is information I was given, anyway.
:Both. The reason he got the 60 million bounty was because he defeated Mr. 1 and because he defeated 100 bounty hunters in Wiskey Peak. Regardless, both Luffy and Zoro got thier bounties after the Alabasta Arc (About the time they left the castle). --Guille2015 03:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bounty not appearing

message: Should we write about Zoro's fight with Mihawk? It's was an major turning point for Zoro's development. I believe that earns it a place in the History section. (Kurigiri 07:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baratie arc fight 

message: Zoro has a deep friendship with his bounty hunting partners, and not a single time has their name appear on his article?
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS TO MOVE, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny and Yosaku 

message: Why does the sketch of Zoro as a member of Buggy's crew list him as "Zolo"? And shouldn't the fact that he's left handed he added in? He IS a swordsman and being left-handed is kind of special, right? 211.29.164.148 02:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never been to Italy, but I can say 'thank you lady' in Italian if thats worth anything to anyone.  Okay the origin of that sketch was I scanned it into a computer using a scanner from my English copy of Volume 3 + then I put it up on wikipedia.  I'm guessing its listed as 'Zolo' because it came from the ENGLISH adaption of the manga.  And whe I mean english I really  mean it since this is the verison on sale in the UK. lol.  Its the same verison as Viz, but the name change is already set to Zolo because it only started producing it earlier this year.  I put it here just to back up what was said about Zoro being a bodyguard in an early verison of Buggy's crew.  Angel Emfrbl 07:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was probably due to Viz's name change. Even though they didn't start using the name Zolo until chapter 50, Viz often goes back and changes things in its publications. So that page with Zolo on it is probably from a later version of Volume 3. The Splendiferous Gegiford 16:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats what I said... T_T Angel Emfrbl 18:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just explaining more how Viz worked. The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I retract my misunderstanding there.  Angel Emfrbl 18:47, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions 

message: I think there should be something about his bad sense of direction in the article.  69.169.92.216 20:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LOL

message: Seems like not many has noticed the slight reference to William Kidd, a pirate hunter of our world. He, too, lived law-abiding untill desperate and out of money (like Zoro becomes a lousy bounty hunter). I think a bit of real life information would make it less like an otaku article. That's just my idea. Yes, it's a fictional character. I just think the article only tells what has NOT inspired the creation of that masked swordsman. --82.215.244.97 07:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can'ty discuss that sort of thing here try a forum... Nor can we reference a 'possible' confirmation, just 'Confirmed' references given out by Oda.  Angel Emfrbl 10:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pirate hunter 

message: I think under abilities it should also state that Zoro is the 2nd or 3rd strongest fighter of the crew.  While he is amazingly strong he matches with Sanji and the two cannot seem to get a win at it. He always beats the people who are a little bit stronger than the ones Sanji beats and even then he seems to have a harder time with them than Sanji does. And I would also think that Sanji is still much faster. Seeing as how Sanji's main focus is on his legs and Zoro is on his swords and Arms. Zoro's probably fast but I don't think he's AS fast as Sanji. Just like how Sanji Probably isn't stronger than Zoro. I feel like I'm gonna get flamed because of all of the Zoro lovers here. *shudders*. ~~ FuzzyGoldGuy 14 December 2006~~
:Actually I love Sanji, but all that is speculation. I'd use things like that in a fan-forum debate, not an encyclopedia article. --tjstrf talk 01:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only canonical evidence we have is their defeats of Kaku and Jyabura, who were ranked. The difference in their strength is intentionally very slight, but just like Kaku and Jyabura one is stronger by a few soldier's worth. --tjstrf talk 02:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

text: May I also point out, that there are forums for asking questions such as strength... If its not clear who is stronger, don't put it on the page.  Go to a forum and ask about it.  I know that sounds cold and it is somewhat intending to be.  But there are times and places for these things and wikipedia is neither those.  Angel Emfrbl 06:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zoro's place.... 

message: Zoro in the article was stated as second to Luffy in strenght, but he isn't...
They are equal and it's shown in the manga... Check out the fight at Wiskey Peak... Their powers were perfectly balanced...
And, also, Oda wrote the Encyclopedia RED on One Piece and revealed the values of strenght of the crew characters: Luffy and Zoro are stated as equal in strenght, they both have 6 as value, while Sanji has 5...
So Luffy and Zoro are the strongest of the crew and Sanji has the second place... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.8.126.150 (talk) 10:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about you stop there.  Now Speculations are not allowed on wikipedia, a place only for facts.  Reflect on this.  Angel Emfrbl 17:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: You can't even say that because most of the fighting is non-canon and the only real fight they had was interupted by Nami.  Plus a fight doesn't prove the strength, as agilty, luck, wits may also come into play (or not, as in the wits part).  The best we can do is mention Zoro is in the top three fighters of the crew (the others being Luffy and Sanji) and leave it as "Zoro is one of the top three fighters with incredible strength that makes him one of the SHs strongest members" or something like that.  We can prove the top three fighters are those three, we can't prove the strengths.  Unless Oda depicts the SHs doing a strength test at some point any claims can be taken only as speculation.  Angel Emfrbl 23:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Well if someone wants to look up the ref for the top three fighters, it was mentioned by the spider monkey. Same with data book thingy. The SM specifically stated they wer ethe top three,  so there you go. I'd prefer not to mention strengths at all, but thats me.  I also am aware of the data books, so pretty much raw strength can agree... What was their lvl. 6?  Something like that.  6 is 6 and both Zoro and Luffy were given it so, yeah I can agree they must be about equal there. Angel Emfrbl 01:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: No you can't (well you can't but someone will add it again) as the manga itself says those three of the top fighters...  Sanji is up there with them so you can't do that and as for Whiskey Peek, that was about 300 chapters ago...  I think its now clearly out dated which means everything is now speculation.  Speculations are not allowed on wikipedia.  If we can't decide on this it can't go on the page.  Simple as that. Angel Emfrbl 13:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Indeed and that text right there is just fine. ;) Angel Emfrbl 17:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Thats fine.  Leave the comment I put in on the comparisons as your statement is the limits of which you can take the argument.  If anyone tries to add more then that we'll loose it again. I'll make sure it stays there.   Angel Emfrbl 17:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zoro's power is not second to Luffy's... 

message: Zoro has confessed he is an aetheist. I'm just gonna shimmy that in if ya don't mind. Trunksamurai 19:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the big deal is... ?  Angel Emfrbl 21:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the part about Zoro being an atheist in the "About Zoro" paragraph.  It was mentioned (and seems more fitting) under "Personality and Relationships."  No need to metion it twice.  --Omega Destroyer 16:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Major or not, it is unnecessary to mention it twice. The fact remains in the personality section, so people will still be able to read it.--Omega Destroyer 19:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I wouldn't say unnecessary. Believe it or not, people read the "About Zoro" article to learn "About Zoro". And just don't bother to read the other articles. So, shouldn't those people learn about his RELIGION too? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trunksamurai (talk • contribs) 11:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you feel it would be better in the about Zoro section, then put it back there.  But I would consider it a very minor fact, especially since religion plays a very minute role in One Piece.--Omega Destroyer 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh my SCIENCE!! 

message: The profile picture doesn't show Zoro quite well. His neck is way too long and I don't remember him being that buff. Could we get a better picture?
Well the show's been on since 1999 so he should be around 24/25 years of age if the manga ages are in fact the real ages.74.195.3.199 19:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't age.  Zoro is the same age every year until Oda says so.  Angel Emfrbl 22:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unflattering? 

message: What about Captain Smoker's lieutenant?  Perhaps I'm being pedantic, but he definitely ran from her. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.106.112.184 (talk) 03:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  never runs from a battle? 

message: I think that there should be more information on Zoro's abilities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nicoler1 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have a ton of next to useless info there... And you want more?  Angel Emfrbl 08:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abilities Section? 

message: Where was it ever stated that Zoro is the First Mate??? Luffy calls him the crew's swordsman? I believe it was never stated that Zoro is the First Mate...or is a person automatically a First Mate if that person is the first to join the captain????
:Can we not have this argument again... I think its on the SH crew talk page as well.  Basically, I think this spurns from the 4Kids version or something.  I can't remember where it comes from.  But he is Luffy's champion/partner, that we can confirm.   Besides, whenever you remove it, someone else puts it back. Angel Emfrbl 07:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Mate?? 

message: Kuina's sword is a Meitou, the 3rd generation demo slayer is a Meitou... Tashigi's sword is a meitou...  Seriously, you don't need to write this next to any of sword.  Meitou is just signalling the name is named/famed/legendary sword.  Its what the Japanese used to signify its most important swords.  In fact, Tashigi's dream is to reclaim all the OP world's meitou out of the hands of bad swordsman, that includes Kuina's sword off of Zoro.
So can we stop added this word to the name of Zoro's latest sword?  Its not part of its name. Angel Emfrbl 23:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Meitou

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Zoros asura.jpg

message: Okay, let's start with the cleanup of this page. Any suggestions of where we should start? (Justyn (talk) 06:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference everything... Anything that can't be referenced, removed.  Also, take note anything waaaay too fanish has to come off. I think we could get away with the odd little thing. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 10:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Also check pictures have their correct copyright stuff on them. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 10:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a sandbox on my user page for this, removing pretty much all of the unreferenced material. I left in what I feel are the most important bits of information regarding Zoro. Stop by and take a look, tell me what you think and leave me constructive criticism. I'm willing to get behind this effort to improve the quality of OP articles as much as I possibly can. Ark (talk) 04:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I have been ill the last week (sick at x-mas sucks!).  Justyn won't like you (seen it).  But, however, it will allow us to wipre clean the slate.  I'll be around in the next week, I'm getting better.  Just very tired + have a lot of headaches right now.  Angel Emfrbl (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 22:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, not so much "dislike of a person"; more around the lines of "objects to aformentioned proposed actions, but not the reasing behind them". You can get me to make me want to vomit in rage in you compulsively push a deletionist agenda against evidence and Wikipedia policy, however. (Justyn (talk) 12:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, it's done. Something happened to the image, and I don't know how to fix it. Since I'm about to pass out from exhaustion, I'll deal with it later or leave it to someone else. Ark (talk) 03:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well its a start but you haven't left directions on where to take things... Could you fill us in on more details so the rest of us can help a little?  Angel Emfrbl (talk) 19:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Well I've tried fixing the image, but I don't know enough about using Wikipedia to get it right. I think the article is fine the way it is now, it covers Zoro's origin, his dream, and some basic character information. Maybe another paragraph about his role in the crew, leaving out anything too fanboy(girl)ish. The japanese article list some of his recurring attacks, and his major battles, but I don't think we need to go that far. I don't want to make too many huge changes without some support, so feel free to jump in at anytime. Ark (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the infobox, and also the picture, I just opened up an older version and copy/pasted the older infobox over the previous one. I'm looking for sources right now, but scanlations on average are decent, at best, I can read enough Japanese to pick out a few sources from the original raw if I already know where to look; I'll keep looking for sources and adding them, I can definately use a little help in that department though. (Justyn (talk) 20:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whats done so far is a big improvment. I think the hardest part will be writing a page without giving the plot away.  I'll watch the page isn't vandalised while you do it.  My Japanese is very limited so I'm stuck with english translations.  Whatever you do, don't list attacks, wikipedia decided a year ago we weren't worthy of those and they will have to be removed.  OP attacks seem to be our most hated wikipedia input.  :( Angel Emfrbl (talk) 00:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I added a lot of ISBNs today, and some more references. I'll add references to his history later today, unless someone beats me to it. Unless there's anything else major that needs to be added, I say we call this finished and move on to another article, either as a group, or we split up the remaining articles and following the current Zoro example, we bring them in line. I'm currently working on a very rough draft of the Usopp article, because it's in desperate need of cleaning up. Ark (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Progress

message: Rather then posting all the stuff that is confirmed fake or not... I'll just list it here:
- After several discussions between fans, who stated that Zoro is equal in fighting strength with Luffy or even stronger, Oda finally gave his statement to the fans and said that he created Gear 2 and Gear 3 for Luffy to make him clearly the strongest amongst the Strawhat Pirates and to make his fighting style content more interesting. When Luffy don`t activate one of the Gears he and Zoro are almost equal. 
As far as I'm aware, as of logging in right now, Oda has never said this... This is purely fan spectulation.  If it IS true, the information has come out since yesturday - that was the date I last checked the fandom for any information that has been supplied to the fandom.  Feel free anyone to correct me on that note.  If not, this is a case of someone trying to put off fiction as fact, which is very against the rules of wikipedia.  ^_- Angel Emfrbl (talk) 22:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, this is an encyclopedia. I think what you're looking for is a fan site. If you'd like to know what's happened in recent chapters, I suggest you go read the manga instead of crying about it on Wiki. You call these pages terrible, but they're a vast improvement over the garbage that was here before. Ark (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We're not here to reveal plots... Thats why they removed the spoiler warning tags a while back, because wikipedia shouldn't have spoilers on it.  You can get away with it on the wikia, so if you really insist on writing out every little detail, look it up, it should be in the external links section anyway.  Angel Emfrbl (talk) 23:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying we should include a bunch of recent information, but spoilers are allowed and in a lot of cases are appropriate on WP.  We don't include recent info to keep people up to date, but if important things happen recently, then that's definitely stuff we include.  We should include whatever info is important, it doesn't matter when it happened, or if it reveals some plot twist from the distant past or recently.  I think the spoiler tag was removed because an encyclopedia gives you the important info, and people should know that may or may not spoil something they haven't watched or read yet.  If some newspaper comments on the resolution of a recent storyline, for example, that's definitely something we would want to include. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 07:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, if something would strengthen the article while spoiling the story for someone, that's a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make. Anyone reading these articles should be aware of the possible consequences anyway. Ark (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny thing is, I've never seen a complaint of the spoiler within wikipedias walls - on the page itself.  The complaints I' ve seen are from things being said on the talk page.  The most likely place you'd see spoilers, because we're discussing anything to do with the page.  ^_- Angel Emfrbl (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fact or Fiction

message: I had to dig way back into the history when the article was actually informal just to find this simple tidbit of info. A quick sentence or two somewhere would solve this. - 4.156.54.179 (talk) 00:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If we put a list here, its "fancruft" (hate that word).  No go... But I suppose a sentance of his CURRENT swords wouldn't hurt.  :(  Angel Emfrbl (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, try as I might I couldn't eloquently fit the information about his swords into the article. I'm glad someone managed to get it right. Good work. Ark (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't the names of his swords be noted somewhere? 

message: shouldnt there be reception in zoro's article like there is in luffy's?--Sanji_1990 (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have the information, go ahead and create it. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately i don't have the info, but if they have info for luffy, couldn't people check the same place for zoro?--Sanji_1990 (talk) 15:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Three of the four sentences in Luffy's Reception section are referenced. The fourth source is somewhere in one of the Japanese manga volumes. Two of them are even linked. So you have all the places. You are the "people". If you don't do it, nobody will. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or instead of being lazy and deleting everything you yourself could do it, Goodraise. Gune (talk) 17:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh please Gune, you know how hard I work for every word I successfully delete. You're the one makeing it so troublesome after all. But by the way, you could at least learn how to ident your comments right. I am tired of doing it for you. That would make my life a lot easier. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 18:14, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

text:  Look I don't know how to do all of that so the best I can do is make suggestions ok?--Sanji_1990 (talk) 12:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's perfectly fine. You can do or not do, whatever you please. As opposed to Gune, I am not telling anyone to do anything. And I certainly didn't mean to say, that your suggestions weren't welcome, because they are. I am merely pointing out, that it's not very likely, that much will happen based on them. So don't get your hopes up. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 12:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: I think it should be noted that all of Zoro's attacks have religious and a animal meaning to them. 36 Caliber Phoenix, has the obvious animal reference, and the 36 is making reference to the 36 Worldly/Earthly Desires. Oni Giri, Oni translates ogre or demon in Traditional Buddhist Mythology, and are Beasts in Mythology, so they are the Animal. And Yasha Karasu; Yaksha(Japanese way of pronoucing Yasha) is a benevolent Nature Spirit in Hindu/Buddist cultures; Karasu means Crow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.246.129 (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That might require verification from the author that it was intentional because he's done other jokes with some of his attacks at times. If it can be verified, that's what they are suppose to be named after, then yes, it is something that is noteworthy.Jinnai (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concept/Attacks 

message: Could someone please change the picture into the very first appearance of the character, which is at the cover of the first volume?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.80.247.35 (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request. 

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