Talk:Georgina Downs

message: I would like to propose that UK Pesticides Campaign be merged into this article. The subject of this article has revived most of the coverage regarding her campaign, and any mentions of the organisation are either trivial or made by here if made in any detail. I am not convinced that the Campaign passes WP:GNG, however, I do think it is worthy of coverage in this article at least. I will proceed with this merge if no objections are received in 7 days from the time stamp of this notice. Triptothecottage (talk) 11:29, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Triptothecottage (talk) 05:52, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: Georgina Downs apparently does not like to be referred to as an "environmental activist". Although we don't always let subjects of articles choose how they are described, on this occasion I don't see any strong reason not to change the description to suit her preference. Also, it seems that very few sources refer to her as "an environmental activist", and so it is questionable whether that should be the in the lead. I am therefore going to change the description in the lead to "a health and anti-pesticide campaigner". If anyone has any strong reason to think that the words "environmental activist" really need to be included, I will be grateful if they will explain what that reason is. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk)
:No objection. That seems perfectly fair. It might be an alternative to add a statement, lower down, such as "Downs has been described by faminguk.com as an environmental activist." But that might also be judged to fall foul of WP:WEIGHT and might rub salt into poor Ms Downs evidently raw wounds. Even if some might see that description as a compliment. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Georgina, you seem to be able to take offence, at the drop of a hat, where none is intended. I've made what I consider to be useful attempts to improve this article. If you feel otherwise, you are welcome to request that they are undone and discussed with other editors. I'm trying to wind up nothing, thanks. I'll try and reserve the misplaced sarcasm for my own Talk page. In my experience Wikipedia articles are often forgotten about, but rarely, if ever, "finished." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  You still have  and should not be editing the article at all. The issues you had with the article and the issues we had with your changes seem fine now. I'm not sure about the references you're referring to, but if they were removed, it's likely the information they supported was also.  - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes there is, "Should not be editing the article at all" means Should not be editing the article at all. Any changes or additions have to be requested by you and made by other editors.  - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

text: Sorry for the mistaken advice, Georgina. I was wrong. You can "make amendments on your own pages" i.e. your own User page and your own Talk page, but not to the mainspace Wikipedia article(s) which are about you. But please don't send me anything else to add in. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:53, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know about IFAJ and BGAJ, but Wikipedia does not link to external images and I don't think images can be used as a reference either. I suggest you not make changes to the article yourself as the only thing that will lead to is getting yourself blocked for doing so, yes there are policies for that also.  - Mlpearc (open channel) 21:22, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

text: I think you might need to explain how that link "shows you are a registered journalist under IFAJ and BGAJ". It seems to just say "UK guild member Georgina Downs"? The piece also appears to be undated. But it does mention theDaily Mail’s Inspirational Women of the Year Awards and the fact you had tea at 10 Downing Street with Sarah Brown. Perhaps these facts might also merit inclusion in the article. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:39, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description as an "environmental activist"