Talk:LGBT symbols/Archive 1

message: It seems to be that the commonly used acronym is LGBT, not GLBT, and that this article should be chaged accordingly. Any comments? Wuzzy 20:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Both are used interchangeably but LGBT is the common form on wikipedia. Benjiboi 15:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move (name change)

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.12 (talk • contribs) 
* Google shows 9 million hits for GLBT but 15 million hits for LGBT. Also, LGBT is the term used  most commonly in Wiki, with 6 pages of results for GLBT and 11 for LGBT. GLBT is not used for categories. There are only 8 articles that start with GLBT, including this one, but 27 articles starting with LGBT. Wuzzy 12:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: '''GLBT is fine--no need to move this page'''

message: I created Pro-gay slogans and symbols about a month before this page came about, but this page is much nicer looking at this time. I think that either: A)"Pro-gay slogans and symbols" should be merged here or B)Both pages should be merged to LGBT slogans and symbols or something like that. I prefer option B because it includes slogans and symbols and has a more inclusive name. I remember spending a lot of time trying to come up with an inclusive name for the article and didn't really like the one I originally came up with. I can't believe I never thought of something as simple as that. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 07:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I basically said on Talk:Pro-gay slogans and symbols, I think this page should be kept for symbols, and any useful non-redundant symbol content in "Pro-gay slogans and symbols" should be moved over here, leaving the slogans information for the other article.  I'm not sure that symbols and slogans are similar enough that they have to be treated together in one article, and this article (LGBT symbols) is getting kind of long without slogans. AnonMoos 08:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal 

message: There has been no discussion for more than three weeks, and it's the other article which may have a lack of focus, not this article. AnonMoos 20:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed template

message: No interest in merging as of yet and an effort to improve this article is underway. Benjiboi 13:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing template again

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Purple Hand.jpg

message: "The International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE) logo"is not a transgender symbol (although the website does show some TG-symbols).– See also “Talk:Transgender#Other transgender symbols”. -- ParaDox 17:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transgendered symbol 

message: Some of the text seems to be taken from the linked page http://www.swade.net/gallery/symbols.html .  Is this a copyright violation? AnonMoos 17:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copied text?

message: No mention at all is made of the internationally-known badge of Bisexuality, a pink triangle overlapping a blue triangle so that the translucent colours combine in a small triangle of violet. This is usually called a Bi triangle or Bi Pride triangle:-
http://www3.telus.net/hillwalker/images/graphics/s-bitri.gif
http://www.anythingthatmoves.com/
http://www.bicon2006.org.uk/
Whereas, the article goes on:-
Usually, to show a bisexual identification, women wear two of the biological symbols for female, the circles of which are linked. Bisexual men represent their sexual preference the same way, except that the biological symbol for male is used instead of the female symbol.
I am Bisexual myself, and I have never encountered Bisexuals declaring their sexuality in this way: it is in fact more typical of exclusively same-sex-attracted people. Nuttyskin 03:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually made a bi-triangles symbol for Wikimedia Commons, since there didn't seem to be one, and added it to Bisexuality. I'm adding a bi-triangles section in this page too. Switchercat 00:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Switchercat.  It's a good image, but the article describes the overlapping area as being purple.  It looks more like blue for me, so if it's not too much trouble it might be good to change the color slightly.  -kotra 21:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I made a new version, much more purple in the middle, and with regular triangle ends instead of the rounded ends. I'm just about to edit the page so it shows the new picture. Switchercat 16:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: nice job, Switchercat!  It looks better with pointed corners, too. -kotra 07:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bisexuality symbol (Pink and Blue Triangles)

message: First it said that it was associated with Demeter (Ceres), then someone changed it to read Artemis (Diana).  I have no idea whether either, neither, or both are true, but someone should -- otherwise I feel inclined to rip out the whole section... AnonMoos 17:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After a googling, I found that the Labrys is usually associated with Demeter (Ceres) though occasionally Artemis (Diana). I'm changing it back to Demeter (Ceres), though it probably needs a reference. -kotra 00:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks -- as long as it's not complete BS (which I was increasingly suspecting that it might be), then there's no problem... AnonMoos 14:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Labrys goddess

message: I have added a section on leather culture, but remain unsure on whether the leather pride flag is a "LGBT symbol". Afte ral, plenty of straight people are into it as well. Thoughts? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 12:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a little ambiguous -- the original leather culture was pretty strictly gay male, and though it has been claimed by some that the leather pride flag should not be considered an exclusively homosexual symbol, part of the reason why a number of other symbols were invented (BDSM Emblem, BDSM rights flag, Ring of O, etc.) seems to be that the Leather Pride flag was considered to have particular connotations which were too specific for a broad general BDSM symbol... AnonMoos (talk) 12:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If we can cite this history, then lets include it just as it's laid out here, giving both the gay-specific interpretation, and the view that it's not just that. Aleta (Sing) 16:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can see a little of this at http://emblemproject.sagcs.net/history1.htm -- AnonMoos (talk) 00:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

text: By the way, there's a gallery :Commons:Sexual_identity_symbols on Commons (thougb I don't know whether it should be linked from this article). AnonMoos (talk) 12:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and added it. Aleta (Sing) 16:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

text: The symbol for the leather community at Stonewall 25 was a leather high-heel. Benjiboi 22:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leather 

message: Is the phoenix-penis connection real or just a silly joke? 惑乱 分からん 14:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, but it might have had some relevance to the choice of illustration to appear on this cover: :Image:Lady Chatterleys Lover.jpg . AnonMoos 12:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Phoenix

message: In the article on Bisexuality, another symbol referred to as the "double-moon" is mentioned. 
Quote: " This bisexual symbol is a double moon that is formed when the sex-specific attributes of the astrological symbol of Mars & Venus (representing heterosexual union) are reduced to the two circles open on both ends, thus symbolizing that bisexuals are open to either-sex unions...". 
I think that this symbol should be included in this article, no?Twitterpated. (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Aleta (Sing) 19:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Glad to do it! :) Aleta (Sing) 23:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double-Moon Bisexuality Symbol? 

message: The text notes that the Greek letter lambda (lower case, λ) was chosen as a symbol.  I'm just curious as to why.  Does it stand for Lesbos?  Lacedaemon?  or something else entirely? - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lambda 

message: What about the HRC yellow equal sign on the blue square?  Should that be added here? Nanobri (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It's a corporate logo/symbol and not a historic movement symbol. - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 17:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: HRC

message: Although this is now seen as just for AIDS we should mention as it took years to make that distinction. Also, check out the commons link. Benjiboi 15:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the rainbow ribbon is just one of many diversions following the success of the red ribbon to represent AIDS awareness.  I think it deserves a mention in that respect, because I can remember the automatic assumption that those wearing it are gay - not sure of finding a reliable source that says that though. -- roleplayer 12:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Ribbon 

message: I've been making some symbols to represent LGBT aliens and robots, just for making various science fiction sexuality articles more handsome with free art. Not suggesting they get used here (yet ;-) ), but if editors want a look and have any suggestions, i'd be glad to hear. See Gender in SF for example. I'm currently making the combination symbols for Lesbots and Gayliens. Yobmod (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't imagine that they'll have a place in this article -- but have you seen http://www.othermag.org/blog.php?p=209&c=1 ?  AnonMoos (talk) 18:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link1 I've seen them before, but fair use is a bit dubious to use them in an article :-/. Homosexuality in science fictionYobmod (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Science fiction LGBT!

message: Adding specific small numbers such as "100px" to image tags, as was done in recent edits, is considered poor Wikipedia coding style in most cases... AnonMoos (talk) 10:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, but generally that needs to be explained directly to the editor.  -- Banjeboi 12:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Specifying small number of pixels for image display

message: Found a couple articles about David Spada, designer of the Freedom Rings. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/21/style/thing-freedom-rings.html He worked with Keith Haring and Grace Jones. http://www.haring.com/cgi-bin/art_search_lrg.cgi?id=00326&search=Grace%20Jones&start=0 A brief obit says that he died at age 34, May 13, 1996.  http://articles.courant.com/keyword/godspell/featured/3 --Larrybob (talk) 08:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freedom Rings 

message: I propose the article be renamed from LGBT to LGBTQ due to new sections that can be added on Genderqueer symbolism such as the Genderqueer Pride Flag  and the Genderqueer symbol of of an interconnected G & Q Iamiyouareyou (talk) 17:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. CTJF83 13:06, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Article renaming Proposal

message: The Leather pride symbol is in this article because there was a well-organized subculture of gay male Leathermen in the 1960s and 1970s which ended up being influential in several directions.  However, I don't know of any strong association of rubber-fetishism with LGBTQ as compared to heterosexuals -- and since the person who added it to the article (User:Agge.se) doesn't seem to know of such an association either, I've removed it from the article, since I don't think we want it to end up being a general list of vaguely BDSM-related symbols... AnonMoos (talk) 10:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Should I start a article named "List of Pride Flags and various symbols for sexual gropes" instead whit the purpose to list different sexuality related flags and emblems on one location? Agge.se (talk) 10:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a gallery :commons:Sexual identity symbols on Commons, but if the Rubber pride image is on Wikipedia under "fair use", then it couldn't be uploaded to Commons.  A simple image gallery wouldn't be welcome on Wikipedia, but if there were real information about each individual flag and symbol, then "List of pride flags and sexual identity symbols" might be successfully accepted on Wikipedia... AnonMoos (talk) 11:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice I didn’t know about that gallery I could begin a "stub" that would list flags and other symbols in the beginning it wouldn’t have description an all flags but with help form the community it think that it cold be interesting in the end. If I am to write any longer part of the page I will need help with checking spelling and formatting. Agge.se (talk) 11:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Might want to ask around on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality first... AnonMoos (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rubber pride flag

message: According to the original chart I found and added to the article, the black triangle was not used to mark lesbians, prostitutes or women who used birth control as the article states. Instead, the black triangle was used to mark Germans shy of work (6th row from left) and other nationalities shy of work (7th and last row from left). So, ummm, eh? -- ALLSTARecho 15:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to remember that it did cover lesbians so more research makes sense. There's also that quaint notion that women aren't sexual ergo couldn't have sex without men so that may also play into it. Benjiboi 21:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I found what I was looking for and have changed the paragraph about the black triangle to reflect why it was used. -- ALLSTARecho 21:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Reich viewed women as baby making machines so the idea that lesbians would therefore count as "Germans shy of work" does make sense, in a sick kind of way. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 12:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It may 'make sense', but the evidence for it is very tenuous indeed. The main black triangle article cites discussions of this issue that seriously question whether the badge was ever used to identify lesbians, so this article should be changed accordingly. It should not say as if it were fact that the badge identified lesbians, when that is disputed. Paul B (talk) 15:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

text: "Arbeitsschau" translation may be contributing to confusion. "Shy of work" is literally correct,  but colloquially inadequate.  Better translations may include "Anti-social" or even"Lacking a sense of duty"; where "duty" refers to basic social contribution as well as having overtones of civilian state-loyalty.  cite: I'm a native speaker of German.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.177.213.142 (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Black triangle

message: I've noticed that a number of the symbols added here are unsourced, and generally created by the uploader. Some don't seem to be used at all in the real world; for others, real-world usage seems to postdate - and copy from - their presence on wikipedia.
If people want to create cool new symbols and flags and display them to the world, there are many exciting websites for that purpose, but wikipedia is not one of them. This is an encyclopædia article; it should document things which are already widely used in the real world, not things which an editor recently made up. bobrayner (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The section with the most severe tagging -- on the interlinked gender symbols -- actually discusses some of the most solidly established symbols (think that the interlinked gender symbols have been reasonably prominent for at least 25 years...). AnonMoos (talk) 20:33, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. The computer character code chart http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf (part of the Unicode standard) defines "26A2 DOUBLED FEMALE SIGN = lesbianism" and "26A3 DOUBLED MALE SIGN = male homosexuality", but I'm not sure whether this a solid source (and the very next character "26A4 INTERLOCKED MALE AND FEMALE SIGN" is given a meaning which seems to be wrong with respect to its most-frequently observed use...). -- AnonMoos (talk) 01:08, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Various images

message: Doesn't Alan Turing and his treatment deserve a point in the symbolism of the lambda?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.254.100 (talk) 15:15, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alan Turing and the Lambda 

message: Hello. I hate to do this, but as I was copy editing the article I checked a source and happened to notice that Lambda section from this version appears to be copy-and-pasted from this page. I copy edited the section before I noticed this, so there might be some slight variations, which is why I included the permalink to the pre-Braincricket revision. I think the proper course of action is to remove all of the copyvio text, but I am not that experienced in this area, which is why I tagged the article. Regards. Braincricket (talk) 05:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Duplication Detector Report. What is to be done? Braincricket (talk) 05:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright violation 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: I don't really want to get involved in any dispute as to whether "LGBT symbols" is better than "LGBTQ symbols" (or vice versa), but as things now are, the article title is inconsistent with the article lead section. AnonMoos (talk) 21:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, I'd like to avoid a dispute, but I agree. For one thing, "genderqueer" is only mentioned in the lead and not in the body (WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY). Also, the title of the article should be the subject of the first sentence (WP:LEADSENTENCE). I am going to respectfully change the lead accordingly. Regards. Braincricket (talk) 04:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: inconsistency

message: The Leather sub-culture section was recently removed by another user because . It was restored, removed by me, and then restored again after  pointed it that it's been on the page for 7 years. 
I was going to suggest we remove it as WP:OFFTOPIC, but I found that sources generally put this flag in with LGBT symbols (Mashable and Buzzfeed for example). I was concerned that leather was included on these sources because it's in the article (we all know that writers sometimes look at Wikipedia first), but over on LGBT community is a reference to lambda.org from 2004 which includes the symbol (link). So it would seem that even though this is a kink subculture and is not exclusive to LGBT folks, it's considered an LGBT symbol by reliable sources. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  15:19, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to clean up the section a bit in these edits. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  15:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leather subculture section 

message: Can I ask why Intersex in included in the LGBT symbols article, if the 'I' part isn't included in the acronym? I'm just curious, as this article seems to have become a catch-all for all sorts of symbols and flags that come under the overall queer umbrella term. Also, the Intersex Pride flag seems very much like an unsourced piece of original research. Thoughts? - Alison ❤ 06:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been pretty much a miscellaneous grab-bag almost from the beginning; not sure that including intersex is as problematic as including non-LGBT-specific BDSM symbols (which seemed a possibility at one point).  Many don't understand the difference between intersex and transsexual, so intersex could be considered to come under the umbrella of LGBT at least in that respect, whether people want it to or not... AnonMoos (talk) 12:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  So, again - do we have a reliable source which shows that this flag is in common usage? When I check, it all seems to just go back to one or two sites that don't meet WP:RS. There is also the matter that many people who are IS don't consider themselves members of the LGBT community, FWIW - Alison ❤ 20:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

text: LGBT is an umbrella term which includes MOGAI generally. See LGBT. Asexuality and intersex are often included under this umbrella. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  18:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Intersex]] 

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replies: text: Removed the gogogloglo one. -- The Voidwalker Whispers 22:58, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on LGBT symbols. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120812202246/http://blogs.sfweekly.com:80/exhibitionist/2012/08/10_fun_facts_lesbian.php to http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/08/10_fun_facts_lesbian.php
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replies: text: Even though we don't need the one for blogs.sfweekly (the original still works). -- The Voidwalker Whispers 23:04, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The double male (Mars) and double female (Venus) symbols have been very common in some contexts for 20 years or more, and are formally included as part of the Unicode character set standard, so it would be a little absurd to remove them from the article, regardless of whether sourcing is inadequate.  It's generally good to insist on sources, but this shouldn't be taken so far as to make articles ignore obvious prominent realities... AnonMoos (talk) 08:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I will take your word for this and let it hang for a while, but in a month I will remove it again, unless sourced. If LFBT people really care for their pride, then they should substantiate it. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) What does "LFBT" mean? 2) If your remark is aimed at me, then it's rather off-target, since I'm personally flamingly heterosexual.  3) If you know almost nothing about what does and doesn't exist out there in the real world, then you may not be the best person to perform radical surgery on this article... AnonMoos (talk) 22:47, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: LFGT is a typo. It was not aimed at you. It was aimed at people (LGBT) who are supposed to have best interest and knowledge on the subject. May be I know nothing about real world, but I think I know a thing or two about the efemeral world of wikipedia, with its rules of sourcing and verification. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

text: The Mashable.com source already used on the page elsewhere discusses the double, interlocking, and superimposed Venus and Mars symbols. Here also is another one. And here, also already used in the article. If you really care for sourcing every sentence in an article, perhaps you should find them. --Equivamp - talk 04:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, see WP:BURDEN. BTW, I did confirm/restore one flag. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BURDEN is equally tempered by WP:PRESERVE. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 18:30, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Restored doubled/interlocking male and female symbols

message: It should be mentioned that the asexual flag has been used at pride events. 
Gatikmaverik (talk) 22:40, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- The Voidwalker Whispers 22:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

text: THis page already is semi-protected. Stickee (talk) 21:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2016 

message: The matters discussed above were brought to the WP:DRN, and I have acted as volunteer mediator.  I am also a member of the LGBT community, and so am claiming a foot in two camps: that of Wikipedia and that of the LGBT community.  I am familiar with most of the symbols (I did not actually know that the pansexuals had a flag, but then perhaps I should have guessed), and I do not see any myself at this point that should be removed.  A gentle reminder to those wishing to include additional symbols: you need to be certain that your symbol has been discussed non-trivially in reliable, independent, published sources before adding it here— blogs are notoriously unreliable (with certain exceptions) and though not prohibited, will always lead those NOT familiar with the LGBT community to doubt their authenticity.  If the symbol/ flag in question really "is" the flag of some subsection or other of the community, then it should not be difficult to find adequate sourcing to verify this; symbols/ flags used once in a parade somewhere and "documented" only in someone's blog are not appropriate for inclusion in this article until that flag/ symbol has made its way into suitable published sources.  In summary: let's make it easy on everyone and stick to good old fashioned reliable sourcing for this article's content!  The further away from the Internet those sources are, the better— yes?  This subject no longer appears to require additional mediation, though I encourage any involved or future editor with concerns to contact me if this changes.  KDS4444 (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediation outcomes 

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message: It was decided years ago that this page would not include general BDSM symbols without specific LGBT-relevance (see the discussion somewhere in the archives to this talk page).  However, that DOES NOT apply to the Leather Pride flag, since the gay-male "leathermen" of the 1960s and 1970s (now retroactively known as "old-guard leather") were a prominent subculture of the time -- they were better organized than most non-BDSM gay groups of the time, and were also better organized than most non-gay BDSM groups of the time, and ended up being fairly influential in several directions (of course the term "BDSM" itself was not coined until ca. 1990).  Since leathermen were pretty well known for decades before a number of other groups whose symbols have been included in the article, it would be blatant historical revisionism of the worst sort to remove the leather pride flag from this article (not to mention that variations of it are widely publicly displayed in physical cloth form). AnonMoos (talk) 15:42, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Just restored the Leather Pride flag after it was removed more than a few edits ago. Wish people would learn their queer history instead of trying to erase it. I know I saw discussion of this in the archived Talk page for this article where the conclusion was it belonged on this page. Caterfree10 (talk) 05:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Leather pride flag

message: In recent years, the equals sign has also been used to symbolize LGBT rights. The symbol has been used since 1995 by the Human Rights Campaign, which lobbies for marriage equality, and subsequently by the United Nations Free & Equal, which promotes LGBT rights at the United Nations. HRC Story – Our Logo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.252.105.250 (talk) 17:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Equals sign

message: I have restored the gallery found in LGBT symbols#LGBT pride flags.  these seem important, and I don't see any reason to remove them from the display on the page.  Frietjes (talk) 12:54, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You misrepresent your edit as being a  restoration of a deleted gallery. However, you deleted the original gallery. I reversed your edit. What you now did (re-add your edit with smaller sizing) displays no  different than what existed before. Furthermore, when you first  deleted the existing gallery your summary explanation was: "per discussion at Template talk:Flag entry" -- which is hogwash, because not only did you fail to identify the specific discussion you based your edit on, but the discussions in that talk page do not support your edit and your summary. You want to take bold edits to heart? Fine. But you're not the only editor in town. Pyxis Solitary  yak 20:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restored gallery 

message: For the last few years, i have seen an upsurge of people using this flag for lesbian flag on social media such as tumblr (but also ive seen it in pride related shops, i can provide link(s)). I don't have any info on when and who started repurposing original lipstick lesbian flag and why some people have concerns over labrys flag, but i think the topic is worth researching and probably including in this article.
KamillaŚ (talk) 20:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Now image :File:Lipstick Lesbian flag without lips.svg on Commons... AnonMoos (talk) 18:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

text: I don't know when the lipstick flag was re-interpreted as a "lesbian pride" flag, but I have not seen it on display in the lesbian events I've attended. IMO, the original flag with lipstick kiss has been hijacked by women within the LGBT community that identify as "queer", and who'd lose their shit if you called them "lesbian". Pyxis Solitary  yak 07:23, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen numerous responses from people claiming the creator of the lipstick flag is in fact racist and transphobic. I have found sources for racism, not for transphobia. I've added a note about the racism. Should anyone find a source confirming the transphobia, feel free to add it. PPP (talk) 11:02, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Accusations made against the creator of the flag belongs in the Lipstick lesbian article, where the flag is included. A generalized statement regarding the flag not being used by members of the lesbian community needs to be supported with a verifiable source that specifically covers that subject. Pyxis Solitary  yak 11:14, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Lesbian flag

message: For the reasons explained at length at Talk:LGBT_symbols/Archive_1#Leather pride flag, the Leather Pride Flag must be included in any lengthy listing of miscellaneous LGBT symbols and flags... AnonMoos (talk) 09:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Restored leather pride flag

message: FYI: Tumblr blogs are user generated content. Additionally, Tumblr is a social networking site. Tumblr blogs are not considered reliable sources and cannot be used as citations. Pyxis Solitary  yak 10:10, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Tumblr blogs are not accepted as reliable sources

message: Also under the trans or transgender umbrella are all those who identify off the gender binary. There are many different identities within this category including genderqueer, two-spirit, gender fluid, third gender, and androgyny.
This seems wrong and unsupported by the citation; rather the relationship is inversed: transgender identities are included under the genderqueer or "off the gender binary" umbrella, not the reverse. The second sentence may therefore more correctly belong under the Non-binary heading a few sections above this one.
--passcod (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. I read the source and also did a web search. The citation, however, was a Tumblr blog and therefore unacceptable in Wikipedia as a reliable source. I moved the sentence to / Non-binary / and provided two sources that are not a social-networking origin. Pyxis Solitary  yak 03:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversal of transgender and genderqueer/non-binary category umbrellas 

message: I'm not really into this business, thanks for fixing the reference.  It's a popular topic on tumblr, over 60K likes/comments/reblogs for a history presented by @erinptah, but blogs are useless here per WP:RS or WP:UGC.  I'm sure about one historic detail, the labrys was a symbol for feminism in the 80's, not limited to Lesbian pride. –84.46.53.209 (talk) 01:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I read sources, and burn more hours than I should making sure that details in articles are correct; because many writers who are too lazy to go to a library and conduct a thorough research about a topic use Wikipedia as the go-to information bank, ignoring that every word in this "cyclopedia" was created by Jane and Joe Blow volunteers who, more often than not, have zero credentials in whatever they contribute. When I see the yada yada on Tumblr about "the lesbian flag", my mind hears Ring a Ring o' Roses playing in the background. The labrys was around long before lesbian feminists adopted it as a symbol of power in the 1970s. Pyxis Solitary  (yak) 02:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lesbian flag history 

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