Talk:Michael Alig

message: The article states that Melendez's nickname was Angel...rather than his real name.  (There's quotation marks.)  Everywhere I've looked says that Angel is Melendez's real name.
I'm removing the quotation marks.  Does anyone have a source that states otherwise? Long Away May (talk) 18:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His real name is Andre as shown by the source in the article -- Esemono (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Angel" Melendez? 

message: There are an awful lot of "citation needed" markers, one after every sentence in some sections.  Are these facts really in dispute, or is someone playing games?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.191.24.137 (talk) 12:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the info in article is based on someone watching the fictionalized story of Michael Alig in Party Monster (2003) and then adding info from the movie into the article.  The movie Party Monster (2003) can't be used as a source so the info has to be confirmed from other sources. -- Esemono (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, the documentary movie could be used as a source if the material is in that but the feature film based on the book and documentary likely was fictionalized in parts so by itself is not reliable. The article could certainly used more sources and there are plenty out there as the case has been covered extensively. Benjiboi 20:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed? 

message: the owen book "clubland" (isbn 978-0767917353) is another popular culture appearance.  Rmd1023 (talk) 03:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  another 'in popular culture' 

message: The second portion of the lede sentence is a tad bit confusing: "Michael Alig (born South Bend, Indiana, April 29, 1966) is the co-founding member of the notorious Club Kids, a group of young clubgoers led by long time best friend James St. James and Alig in the late 1980s and early 1990s."
Can someone fix this? Thanks. 70.61.247.31 (talk) 18:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: wording in the lede is confusing

message: This part reads too much like a Murder Mystery novel, or a rehashing of a scene from the fictional movie Party Monster....
"Then according to Freez he hit Melendez a total of three times on the head. Then Alig grabbed a pillow and tried to smother him.[8] When Melendez was unconscious Freez went to the other room and when he came back he noticed a broken syringe on the floor. However, Alig's story was that he injected Angel with Drano, while Freez claims that Alig poured it down Angel's throat and duct-taped his mouth closed.[8] After a few days, the body began to smell. Alig injected himself with heroin, cut the legs off the corpse, and stuffed him in a box and afterward threw the corpse into the Hudson River."
Can we add somethings like "Such and a Source states that, Mendezes head was struck three times by a blunt implement" and/or something like "Official Court Documents state that Alig also attempted to suffocate Mendez with a pillow."  70.61.247.31 (talk) 18:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Nearly five years later and this article still reads like a story. Lara 17:25, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia is not a story-book (or in this case, a movie turned story-book)

message: In 1998, the deceased Spanish film director Manuel Toledano released a movie called Shampoo Horns with a story line related to Michael Alig's case. The interesting thing is that he himself appears in it briefly. I am guessing it was shot before his conviction but I can't find anything on the net, only the IMDb page.
I don't know if it is important but nonetheless interesting to know he appeared in a movie. If anyone has more information and can put it in... Thanks. --Nauki (talk) 09:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shampoo Horns 

message: Wikipedia is not a repository or publisher of promotional materials. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS)  (talk)  (contribs) 17:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted your edits, which did not improve the article.  Please get a consensus from the editors on this talk page for the changes you wish before you restore them. BMK (talk) 19:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puffery 

message: why you keep reverting my edits.  Use words, please. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS)  (talk)  (contribs) 16:11, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discuss 

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message: It appears that the infobox is a little confused and has info both on Alig as an artist/personality and as a murderer. Since most of the infobox is about the murder, it may mislead casual readers. For example, it says he was active from 1984 - 1997, but that actually represents his time as a club kid, not as a murderer. There are two ways to resolve this, as I see it. This only effects the infobox; I'm not suggesting deleting anything about the murder from the body of the article.:
*Remove the information about the murder from the infobox and present him just as an artist and personality in the infobox. This is consistent with examples such as Phil Spector.
*Delete the "years active" information and make the infobox about him as a murderer. This is consistent with the Jared Fogle article. (yes not a murderer, but a known celebrity personality who went to prison for serious crimes). †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 17:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As no one responded to this discussion, I have chosen to remove the "years active" info as it was the action that required the least amount of change. If you feel differently, lets discuss. †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 23:17, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

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message: User:Emem1138, I disagree with your edit, which you've made twice, to the lead sentence of the article. It had read, accurately, "Michael Alig ... was an American club promoter and convicted felon." You changed it (with a misleading edit summary) to "Michael Alig ... was an American club promoter, artist and Individual who was Formerly Incarcerated." There's nothing wrong with adding that he was an artist, as, according to the body of the article, he was one, but I disagree with replacing the concise "convicted felon" with "Individual who was Formerly Incarcerated". First, I don't know what the capital letters are for. Second, it seems as though you're whitewashing his situation. He was a felon, a murderer. He was convicted for it. Your version makes it sound like his incarceration was something passive that happened to him, independently of anything he might have done. What was your intention? I'm inclined to change it back. Largoplazo (talk) 23:46, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for changing the lead sentence