Talk:The Amazing Race 5 contestants

message: The images cannot be used in this context per the fair use rules.  To make them acceptable, each section describing the contestants would have to specifically say "during the Amazing Race, the team participated in the following detours, and did….".  Obviously this is a ridiculous concept, and thus the images cannot be used. Please note that the fair use rationale of the images as they stand is for "for identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents " and that is clearly not what is happening in this article. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 21:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already cited the policy: namely that the images must be used ONLY for "identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents ".  The images are used for neither of those things. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 21:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: See the tag   Basically, if you take a screenshot from an episode of TAR you can only use it to describe the main TAR article or that specific season's TAR article.  Other uses such as putting them on your personal user page or a TAR contestant's biographical article is a violation of the fair use policy. --Madchester 21:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: As for WP:FUC #8 … The identified image was showing a scene of contestants in the article, which is the relevant subject of the article – no one is named personally. I’d gladly put a free image in the article. Can you tell me where one can be had – failing that a non-free image is the best alternative? --evrik (talk) 23:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, read the  tag for the only applicable uses for a tv screenshot as a fairuse image.  It can only be use to describe the television program pictured and not the contestants pictured. --Madchester 23:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: There are a number of individual articles about the contestants in the Amazing Race that already exist. Some of the articles about individual contestants have been deleted or redirected. Including summary biographies of each of the contestants on the The Amazing Race 5. Including a brief summary of who each of the contestants was not only makes the article more informative but reflects the whole nature of the show. Not including the information leaves out some critical information about the race.
Including this information on the Amazing Race 5 would make it larger and unwieldy, hence the creation of this subpage not only allows brief biographies of all the contestants, but helps make the original article more encylopedic. This is in keeping with both WP:NOT and meet WP:BIO for notability standards. --evrik (talk) 22:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (I was asked to comment here by a post on the WP:PROD talk page) Agreed, however, PROD is not the way to do this (if someone objects, as evrik clearly does).  Take it to AfD. JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why I removed the Prod tag

message: I have just spent a mind-numbing hour and a quarter adding references and expanding this article, but I feel what I have achieved proves it can (and should) be done.  Please note that I have done my best to remove links to sources I feel are un-reliable (particularly "realitytvworld.com") and instead focussed on trying to find sources from reputable news media sources.  I'm burned out right now but will go back and finish this off later.  I would suggest that if the article is kept and the decision is made to create similar articles for the other seasons, there should be a focus on correctly sourcing the article.  -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 03:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I just moved The Amazing Race 5 contestants back to Amazing Race 5 contestants. If someone wants to move the page, then they should discuss it first and also discuss changing Amazing Race 1 contestants, Amazing Race 2 contestants, Amazing Race 3 contestants, Amazing Race 4 contestants,Amazing Race 6 contestants, Amazing Race 7 contestants, Amazing Race 8 contestants, Amazing Race 9 contestants, Amazing Race 10 contestants, Amazing Race 11 contestants and Amazing Race 12 contestants. --evrik (talk) 23:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *There is nothing to discuss. The name of the show is The Amazing Race. The name of the associated articles are The Amazing Race 1, The Amazing Race 2 and so on. Contestant articles should follow the naming convention of the program and of the existing articles. Otto4711 23:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly.  The show is The Amazing Race.  Please follow some sense of consistency in the naming of articles. --Madchester 02:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: The infobox adds some relevant information to the article. --evrik (talk) 20:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox