Talk:Merino

message: Added Australian History, the old section marked history is not 100% but will wait to see what happens before altering (somewone else might fix it). Article needs more USA history and South Africa History to balance. Need some decent photoes of Merinos and shearing of same, before article can move forward; will organise. 
Charles Esson 10:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History additions

message: You can't write an honest history of the breed unless you face up to reality. The merino breed is where it is today because it has been developed for economic returns not as one would develop a breed for dog shows. Paragraph added at start to try and explain this and then edits added as I find references for the introduction genetic material. Charles Esson 00:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Facing up to reality

message: In tidying this I have been reflecting. The net result of the PETA campain is probable going to be the end of some genetic lines; I suppiose thats fair man created them, man can destoy them. As a humun what would be your choice if the options were circumcision of your son or the end of your genetic line. Charles Esson 12:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Animal welfare

message: This article is about merino, not other animals.Bob98133 (talk) 21:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you are correct.  This article is about the Merino breed of sheep.  The See also section is to understand about aspects of the breed.  One aspect is that the Merinos are guarded by other types of livestock like donkeys and llamas.  If you would like to discuss this further or if you feel that there is an impass, I would be more than willing to discuss or debate this with a third party involved.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 18:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I see. I didn't know that. But anyhow, that information should be included in the article somewhere, along with the wiki-links, because the See Also section isn't really the right place for it.Bob98133 (talk) 21:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where would you suggest?  I'm willing to write a brief blurb about livestock guardians and include it in this article.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 20:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

text: This is the guideline I'm folloowing: WP:ALSO.  Am I missing something?  Are you the owner of this article?  The See Also section is a matter of editorial judgement.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 13:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As an occasional editor of this article, I am against the inclusion of a link to Guard Llamas in this article for previously stated reasons. Bob98133 (talk) 13:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was originally removed without consensus.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 19:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: BlindEagle, please AGF and stop throwing around accusations such as attempts are ownership. You are the only one in the discussion who wants to include the link to Guard llamas and the like. WP:V clearly states that you have to prove why content should be included, it's not a default to keeping it when multiple editors have removed it. Multiple users have removed the links, and you keep reinserting them. That's not a consensus. VanTucky 00:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick Google search on 'merino livestock guardian llama' returns 2,840 hits.  That's not a small number.  This is obviously used in the Merino sheep industry.  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 13:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

text: VanTucky, I must diagree with your personal attack regarding your last edit summary.  I can understand if you are not for including certain content within the article and I am all for debate and discussion regarding this.  However, according to your edit summary, consensus is against me and you appear to be the one instigating it.  Why are you against me?  --BlindEagletalk~contribs 14:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

text: BlindEagle - nobody is against you, but two editors disagree with the inclusion of guard llama's in this article. You are the only editor insisting that this be included. That means that you do NOT have concensus. In fact, there is concensus to remove that See Also link. Despite the ongoing discussion, you continually revert the article to your version. Nobody is denying that llama's may be used to guard merinos, just that having that information in this article does NOT improve the article - whereas it might improve some other articles, which has already been suggested to you. Please remove that link and stop reverting this article to include it. If you do not remove the link, either VanTucky or I will have to seek mediation from an administrator; or you are free to do the same. Thanks Bob98133 (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree with Bob. This isn't about you BlindEagle, it's about the content. In addition the things Bob notes above, I want to point out something you very well know: Google hits are not an acceptable argument in content disputes. They may be a helpful barometer at times, but they are not a reliable source and they don't contradict a consensus of editors. VanTucky 23:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

text: BlindEagle - Put wikepedia first. Charles Esson (talk) 11:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: removing irrelevant links

message: I've added a short note under animal welfare, looks like it is going to become important, perhaps more can be said.Charles Esson (talk) 11:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Swedish mulseing blowup

message: 'nuff said. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This should surely be within striking distance of GA at least. Nice job 

message: If merino is mixed with every other fabric this should be included. I didn't see that it is. The introduction of the possum blend received a lot of publicity by the industry and is being marketed as new products, so I think that there should be a mention of it in the article. Bob98133 (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possum fur 

message: Re: recent change by Cgoodwin. I think that Merino with an uppercase M is correct for the breed of sheep, but I'm not sure that an uppercase M is required for the wool made from Merino sheep. I've left Cgoodwin's edit, but if someone is sure, or can cite a reference, that would be great. Google searches show both upper and lower case being used for the wool. Bob98133 (talk) 14:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uppercase for Merino? 

message: The said prince, was not an elector, but the son of an elector. 24.13.184.236 (talk) 18:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prince Xavier of Saxony 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Today's edit by GoSnug1 looks suspiciously like advertising, and the username is not acceptable, but have left untouched, as to me it's borderline and competently done. Doug butler (talk) 08:38, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising? 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: Perhaps it is just me, but I cannot tolerate woolen clothing next to my skin - no hives or a swollen throat, but lots of itching and some redness. I CANNOT WAIT to rip it off. Merino wool is not as bad on my skin - I can easily tolerate it for a few hours. Is this a real quality of merino wool as compared to the usual sheep's wool? Or is it just a quirk of my own? Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 23:19, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality of merino wool on human skin?