Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Paintball

message: If we're pushing Towards FA status for Paintball and Woodsball, Maybe we should start requesting peer reviews. I actually posted one on the woodsball talk page, but I removed it since I should have gotten approval from the community. Community, your response please. J-stan Talk 02:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review

message: I've edited the infobox template Paintball-gun and added a "Bore" section. As of right now any article that uses the infobox but fails to specify bore information will simply read "Not Specified" on the "Bore" section. If you know bore information regarding a marker please specify it in the infobox of the article to reflect the standard/stock bore size. Also, many paintball marker articles are missing this infobox please help standardize these articles by adding them. 
Pmicka 19:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info Request - Marker Specific Barrel Bore Info 

message: Hey guys. I think it's about time we got a stub template setup for paintball related stubs. Since there isn't already a stub, the first step is to gather as many article as we can within the scope of paintball that qualify as stubs. 
WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals 
Any suggestions? --Pmicka 04:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paintball stub proposal 

message: hey i was reading the priority tasks, and about the list of professional teams being cleaned up, it was said that the deadline was the 31 of December.  that stuff was put in motion before i joined so i don't want to touch it without talking to people bout it first.  if you want to extend the deadline or just delete all the non-confirmed ones i don't know, it just looks a bit weird like it is.
peace-Three ways round 21:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm not too sure about that article. RavenStorm pretty much runs that article; he created it and has been looking after it since. I guess it's his project - maybe you should ask him whether he's doing anything with it? ~ Maximilli, 00:18, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Priority Tasks 

message: Hello members of the Wikipedia Paintball Project!
Some of you may have noted that not much work in the area of large-scale improvements has been made in these past months. I myself have been busy, committing my time to the much more urgent needs and wants of my employers. However, despite my tight schedule, I still check my Watchlist, like most of you, and make sure our articles stay clean!
So I would like to ask you, fellow members, not to be discouraged by what may be called inactivity. As long as we continue to assure the quality and factual accuracy of every single Paintball article here, we are doing our job! Remember, if you care about paintball on Wikipedia, please go ahead and add every single paintball article to your watchlist. It's not that hard, just go to the paintball category and add the articles there to your watchlist. Don't worry, you won't be flooded with alerts on recent changes! Worst comes to worst, just add the articles that seem more important to you. The Paintball article itself must be watched by all of our members!
Nonetheless, a lot of good work could be done if members were to simply add pictures of paintball markers to Wikipedia's servers. I will personally see to the paintball marker's article creation.
Keep up the good work and God bless,
Ravenstorm 17:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactivity 

message: hey i'm pretty sure that we can nominate articles to a good article position.  IF that true (which i think it is) then we have quite a few articles that would probibly get it.  Namely Woodsball, Paintball, and Woodsball strategy, as well as a bunch of other ones.  i think this will help with rateing, give our project a better image, and i think it will also help us in our trying to get FA's in our project.  Any thoughts??
peace-Threewaysround 01:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA & FA articles 

message: Hey i was wondering if we should be listed as a Decendant of the Wikiproject sports, as of right now we are not. We are a wikiproject that deals with paintball, and last i checked paintball was a sport.  So shouldn't we be in there somewhere????  Any thoughts????
peace-Threewaysround 20:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had to put up with a lot of controversy as to whether or not paintball is a sport... it stands alone, in it's own category, I believe. So no, let's not do that. RavenStorm 16:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject Sports 

message: ok so throughout the good article nominations (which all failed for one specific reason which will be addressed), i have discovered one very important, and very significant problem that almost all of our articles face.  We don't have sources/refrences.  The article that had the most sources, refrences, and inline citations out of all our articles is the paintball article, and even that didn't have enough sources.  i beleive that finding credible sources should be priority number one (aside from improving the articles in category:paintball but that goes without saying).  But that's my opinion and being as i'm not in a position of autority in this project, i'm not going to do anything without some say from the members, and approval from ether RavenStorm, Maximilli or both.   Anyway that's our situation and i would like to here your opinion(s) of it.
peace-Threewaysround 21:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, sources are an incredibly important part of Wikipedia. Original research is tough to prove and articles without citations don't last long. We are here, as members of the WikiProject Paintball, to accomplish one single goal: to improve, expand, correct and add unto Wikipedia's paintball-related articles. Make it your goal for the week to find sources for an article! I'm currently working on finding sources for another article I care about, Firearm errors in media, so I do admit paintball has been off my mind for a while. Nonetheless, that article is an excellent example of compromise and referencing... in a single month, we went from having 0 to 10 references and nearly half the article is sourced. We can do the same here. Thanks for bringing it up, Three ways round. Let's get to work on sources! RavenStorm 00:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources 

message: Hey, is everyone cool with the changes I made to the woodsball rifleman and scout pages? I tried to bring them towards the depth of the marksman page. I will be focusing on those pages for now. Please post suggestions on their respective talk pages. J-stan 16:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Player positions

message: Hello everyone! Just joined this group and was wondering if anyone thinks there should be an article about paintball sniper ghillies. If so, should this be part of woodsball marksman or just be an independent article. I was in the middle of making this article, when somethin happened and I lost it all. I had been going to make it and propose it be merged to see who thinks what, but I will just ask here. Deflagro 00:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghillie suit 

message: Hey everyone. After moving "Electropneumatic paintball gun" to Electropneumatic paintball marker, it was brought to my attention by another user that it may have been better for me to have opened a discussion on the gun --> marker change either on Wikipedia:Requested moves or on the article's Talk page before doing so unilaterally. The argument was that since it was not official WP:PAINTBALL policy to refer to "paintball guns" as "markers," I was inviting an edit war.  
So what does everyone think about making it official policy to refer to all "paintball guns" as markers? I am of the belief that paintball has and continues to hold a bad reputation as a "violent" sport, and that we should do anything we can to change that image. Given that we are aiming for Paintball to become a FA, I think that this is a minor policy change that can have a major effect. Is it possible for us to have a vote of some sort on it? --Donutmonger 06:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would absolutely agree with that, and have been changing "gun" to "marker" when I come across it. Paintball has enough of a bad rap already from people wrongly thinking that it glorifies violence, and all of the major paintball manufacturers that I know of refer to their products as markers. Simply put, guns are designed to injure or kill, while paintball markers are equipment for a sport. Robogymnast 00:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree I don't have a problem with it being called a gun, but I see where it would be better to call it a marker in an encyclopedia. Deflagro 19:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the Woodsball marksman page, I actually changed "Weaponry" to marker. I think that if we do this, it will create a less violent view of paintball. Right now there can be an infamous view of the sport. J-stan Talk 20:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Very much agreed. The use of the term gun is not to be confounded with marker. Thank you Donutmonger, Robogymnast and J-stan for your bold contributions! RavenStorm 01:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, we're bold! :) J-stan Talk 02:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Marker" or "gun"?

message: I feel it is unacceptable to let the deletion of the Paintball strategy article to pass without comments from members of this wikiproject. The deletion passed with 2 votes, none of whom are members of this project. I propose a deletion review as soon as possible. Thoughts? J-stan Talk 16:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was not aware of this article. Unfortunately I have to update my watchlist (which normally should contain all paintball articles, but since the "List of paintball articles" category is in my watchlist I should be noticing new articles anyways) but the creators of the article as well our members should try their best to integrate these articles into our project. As for whether or not it should be deleted... well, I dunno. I never got a chance to see the article, but anything that sounds like "paintball strategy" just doesn't sound right to me. Strategy is an opinion, something an educated writer would publish, and usually unfit for the encyclopedic format of Wikipedia. Of course I would actually have to see the article to pass a judgement. Then we can decide if the project will back this article or approve of it's deletion. RavenStorm 20:59, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My point was that the article, being part of this project, was deleted a) with two votes, which is too little to determine consensus and b) without the opinion expressed from any member of this wikiproject. It was suggested that it be transwikied to wikibooks, but half of the voters (mind you, one voter) informed me that it was outright deleted. J-stan Talk 21:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Well it can be improved! Compare the Woodsball strategy article. Maybe what we should do is create a Speedball strategy article. That way we can have strategy articles for both games instead of just one. J-stan Talk 21:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paintball strategy deletion review 

message: We have been tagged as inactive. Let's get editing! J-ſtanTalkContribs 02:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok, we really aren't doing anything 

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. szyslak 09:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of [[:Template:{{ucfirst:PB-familiar}}]] 

message: Just wondering what other people think about this, but since it the the WikiProject's policy to refer to paintball guns as markers instead of guns, should we move  to Template:Paintball-Marker? Just wanted to get some other people's thoughts on this. Deflagro  C/T 01:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that makes sense. J-ſtanTalkContribs 02:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone else? Deflagro  C/T 22:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No one else seems to be active. J-ſtanTalkContribs 17:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So should we move it? Because if we are the only two active, that would be a unanimous vote by the Project to move it. ;) Deflagro  C/T 21:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Silence implies conensus". Go right ahead. It makes more sense anyway. J-ſtanTalkContribs 22:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm active too! I concur with the move. Of course, seeing as how you've already started, my vote doesn't really mean much haha. Good job taking the initiative. --Donutmonger (talk) 09:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I started, but all that was left was a few talk page comments and the like. Things merely informing others that the template was created. I didn't really see need to continue changing them. J-ſtanTalkContribs 01:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I thought you were online when I posted that. Then when I actually looked it turned out that only about 6 or 7 articles actually used the template...Last template I changed and had to edit every page had about 30 pages and this involved moving the template from the top to the bottom. That was horrible. Thanks anyway! Deflagro  C/T 03:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem. J-ſtanTalkContribs 03:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh. Better late than never, Donutmonger! Anyway, it wasn't the controversial a move seeing how only about 6 or 7 articles actually use that template..... Deflagro  C/T 17:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:Paintball-gun 

message: Back on Nov. 17, I created an article for the new Proto SLG marker, mostly because there was Proto SLG content in the Dye Matrix article, and the two are completely different markers. Within a few hours, the article was marked for Speedy Deletion, and though I protested, it was deleted soon thereafter. 
I exchanged messages on the talk page of the admin that deleted the page (see here), and his basic argument was that the article was not "notable" enough - i.e. there were no outside 3rd party sources that independently discussed the SLG. He was pretty nice about it though, and told me that the article could be reinstated as soon as I came back to him with outside proof that people other than me or the manufacturer was talking about it. 
Unfortunately, since its such a new marker, I haven't been able to find anything about the SLG, outside of the usual places (paintball forums). So I'm putting out an open call for you guys to help out. If you come across anything that discusses the Proto SLG in-depth, can you let me know that way I can forward it to the admin? I think all of us know that the SLG is pretty unique (the first automag-type marker in along time), but we need outside independent proof. Thanks! --Donutmonger (talk) 07:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a blog but I don't think you can cite that. Here's a more profressional blog. Sorry. That's all I can find right now. Deflagro  C/T 22:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, blogs won't work. I'll help out. J-ſtanTalkContribs 22:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I knew we couldn't, but that was all I could find with a quick search. Deflagro  C/T 22:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the suggestions guys. I guess just keep this in mind, and if you come across anything in your internet travels, post it here. It's just frustrating because so many articles for less-notable markers (Spyder Rodeo?!) have made it past the admins. --Donutmonger (talk) 02:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reinstating the Proto SLG article 

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thread_title:  Couple of things 

message: I changed many of the paintball markers to be listed in categories the same way.  Most of them were in just the "Paintball markers" so I kept it that way.  Some of them also had "Paintball", this is not necessary since the "Paintball markers" category is part of the "Paintball" category.  Do I have this correct?  Thanks.  AddZero (talk) 03:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Paintball markers 

message: Hey, I just created some new articles located at Portland Naughty Dogs and Ryan Podesta, and was wondering that since I'm relatively new to paintball, if I missed anything.--Iamawesome800 23:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Articles

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thread_title:  Are there enough articles on this subject to justify an [[Outline of paintball]]? 

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message: I bought a Tippmann A-5, and when my barrel screws into the gun it doesn't seem like it fits perfectly snug. The barrel, although not too much, can be wiggled a little bit. I was wondering if this was normal.  Can anyone help?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.16.71 (talk) 01:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tippmann A-5 Stock Barrel 

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