Talk:List of Wii games/Archive 4

message: "A reference must be provided for all titles -- All items on this list should currently have at least one reference link."
Does this mean that if a game is confirmed in a print source or in a subscription-only online source, it does not belong in the article? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 19:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose not - but obviously it's more helpful if everyone can read the reference if they want to.HappyVR 09:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If a game was confirmed in writing then I can assure you that somewhere on the internet has something about it. Jedi6-(need help?) 02:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why you couldn't add it, as long as you say where it comes from, and replace it with a reliable online link when one appears. -- VederJuda 02:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing wrong with adding sources from print material, even if a game is confirmed on the net or anywhere else. Add a reference to it anyways. Here's some more info about citations. That print material might even be a better source of information than most websites. Ceros 03:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Must the reference be free and online? 

message: I think the actual announcement article is preferable to a game page (such as those from IGN that everybody always uses). I think an announcement article is more indicative of what is known about the game at the time of announcement and the nature of the announcement itself. And that's kind of what this list should do; accurately list which games currently exist for Wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enbob89 (talk • contribs) 16:45, May 1, 2006
:I think game pages are better because they link to all resources concerning the game: news, media, et al. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That thought had occurred to me. But I think the reference links for this article are only here to confirm that these games exist. A game page would be better suited for each game's own article. Also, game pages can sometimes be set up prematurely. Sometimes game pages are set up for games that are only speculated to exist. --enbob89 00:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Pages vs. Actual Articles 

message: Some people have been adding old games to the list, going by the asumption that since the Revolution will have old NES/SNES/N64 games available for download, so these games will appear on the system (i.e. Donkey Kong Jr., Balloon Fight, Clu Clu Land, etc…). Should we add a note that says that only games developed for the Revolution directly should be on the list, and older games for download (even if they may be altered or fine-tuned in any way, are not considered Revolution games. -- VederJuda 14:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Older games are for older systems. Just look and the PlayStation series. PlayStation 3 plays PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games, yet none of those are counted as PS3 games. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Backwards Compatible Games

message: Considering a game like "No End Soon" has been allowed to stay on this list of games, I readded NiGHTS into Dreams and Trama Center to the list, one of which was rumored in Weekly Famitsu, and another of which was confirmed by IGN as coming out.  Both are currently listed as rumored games until an official announcement is made. Fro81 20:30, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think NiGHTS should be listed, there is no actual evidence to support that it is being developed, and that being listed here might just get people's hopes up. I think there should be more than just an article on a website about a rumor in a Japanese magazine to justify NiGHTS 2 being listed here. Gopherbassist 01:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Famitsu is notable enough to have a page in Wikipedia, and is one of the oldest magazines about videogames. However, I would not add "NiGHTS into Dreams", but instead, "unnamed xxxx project". -- ReyBrujo 02:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't think that the age of the magazine or it's having an article in Wikipedia have anything to do with the validity of a rumor, after all, it's still a rumor according to the magazine its self. Other than that, I agree.Gopherbassist 21:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I remind you about the general inclusion guideline: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. This means that we only publish material that is verifiable with reference to reliable, published sources. And more specifically: One of the keys to writing good encyclopedia articles is to understand that they should refer only to facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments that have already been published by reputable publishers. In other words, it doesn't matter if it is a rumour, as long as you can verify it with reliable sources. Can you verify it? Yes, it is in the magazine. Is it a reliable source? Yes, Famitsu is _the_ japanese bible of gaming. If you still don't trust Famitsu, we can use this IGN link as reference. Note how IGN treats the rumour with more respect just because it comes from Famitsu. Nothing wrong about your point of view, but if only "truth" could be allowed in Wikipedia, this would be Encyclopaedia Britannica ;-) -- ReyBrujo 21:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think truth has anything to do with it, and from what I read there is no proof that this game is NiGHTS, it said there was a flying clown. Plus, it is still a rumor. Now, I have no problem with it saying NiGHTS, but it needs to say some thing like "Unspecified _______ project, possibly NiGHTS."Gopherbassist 04:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumored Games

message: I've noticed this on this list and other pages as well. People list the film article instead of the game article's redlink. If the article isn't made for the game yet, there is no reason to link to the film, period. It confuses people for one thing, and for another it makes it seem like the game has an article already. So just list the game as a redlink, and let it be. A film article shouldn't be on a video game list page. RobJ1981 21:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment about games based on movies on the list

message: for some reason I can't sort by North American release date. Anybody else having this problem? --enbob89 01:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea I can't either--I'll look into it. Maybe it's something I messed up. -Digiwrld1 02:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Huh. I looked up and down the page in edit mode to try and figure out what was wrong and I can't spot anything. It was working quite fine a little whiles ago. Can someone who has more experience check this out please? Thanks! -Digiwrld1 02:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: seems to be the last version where the sort works.  I compared that to the not working versions, but did not see anything obvious. -Telvin 3d 06:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I reverted it back to the last working issue and re-updated whatever information I remembered had changed. Thanks for the help Telvin and Enbob98. Though I still don't know what exactly caused the problem...-Digiwrld1 07:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North America Sort?