Talk:List of Notre Dame Fighting Irish starting quarterbacks

message: This should be moved to Notre Dame starting quarterbacks in accordance to the WP:MOS. --ZimZalaBim talk 05:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename

message: Good catch by Hanksummers in realizing that the names for 1925-1940 were incorrect.  (It appears that those were all starting halfbacks, not quarterbacks.)
However, I think we're still faced with a problem in that the list is supposed to represent every quarterback to have ever started a game, not necessarily every quarterback listed on the depth chart.  Therefore, prior to 1940 we need to find another source to confirm what QBs actually started, and which ones simply rode the bench all season.
Trowbridge (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starters 

message: What's with the one QB from 1899 being footnoted as a "Knight of Malta?" How is that relevant?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.121.215 (talk) 21:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't at all doubt that it's a noteworthy accomplishment, and definitely warrants a place on the page dedicated to the player; it just seems a bit out of place on this list, having nothing to do (as far as I can tell from perusing the page on the Knights of Malta) with football or Notre Dame (except by virtue of both being Catholic institutions). It'd be kind of like footnoting David Robinson's name on the list of NBA MVPs with "Lieutenant, U.S. Army." 68.36.121.215 (talk) 21:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would tend to agree that it seems a bit out of place on a page that deals exclusively with starting quarterbacks.  Certainly any lifetime achievements that are directly football-related should be noted (e.g., I would have no problem adding footnotes for winners of the Sammy Baugh Trophy or the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award, etc.), but things that aren't directly related to playing football should probably be relegated to the individuals' pages, lest we open up the floodgates for every non-sports-related accomplishment any player might have had. -- Trowbridge (talk) 20:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knight of Malta? 

message: On 1-21-2008, G4raider marked this page for deletion, with the justification that it should be relegated to a template on the "main page" (presumably referring to the Notre Dame Fighting Irish football page.
However, a template would be entirely unsatisfactory for several reasons.  First of all, a template may be fine for a simple list where entries are not chronological, or if the names proceed in simple succession and do not repeat.  That is not the case here.  Names are repeated in various years (sometimes non-consecutively) and must be identified by the year to be meaningful.
Second, the list provides other data besides the simple list, such as identifiers for Heisman Trophy winners and Hall of Fame members.  Such information cannot by conveyed in a template.
I may give serious consideration to converting the entire list to a table and adding additional information in a tabular format, so that the difference from a simple list will be that much clearer. -- Trowbridge (talk) 00:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for deletion

message: Okay, to follow up on my previous comment, I'd like to propose a fairly radical revision to the format of the page.  I suggest using a table, and presenting the data in the manner of the following example:
Year	Name           	First start 	Numberof starts	Recordas starter	Awards/honors
2007	Evan Sharpley  	October 20  	2              	0-2             	
2007	Jimmy Clausen  	September 8 	9              	3-6             	
2007	Demetrius Jones	September 1 	1              	0-1             	
2006	Brady Quinn    	            	13             	10-3            	Unitas, Maxwell
2005	Brady Quinn    	            	12             	9-3             	Baugh
2004	Brady Quinn    	            	12             	6-6             	
2003	Brady Quinn    	September 27	9              	4-5             	
2003	Carlyle Holiday	            	3              	1-2             	
Hopefully a presentation in this format will lay to rest the ridiculous notion that this is "just a list" which should be deleted or converted to a template.  Comments are welcome!  If no one has any negative feedback in the next week or so, I'll probably go ahead and get started.  Note that some of this data may be very difficult to find as we get back into the early part of the prior century, so anyone who has detailed records, please come forward! -- Trowbridge (talk) 03:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for revised format

message: Several QB's are missing from the 'Win-Loss Record' list. Namely, Theisman, Hanratty, O'Brien. I don't have the records for them handy, but obviously they need to be added. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 17:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Win-Loss Records