Talk:Accent (music)

message: Some musicians appear to use the terms for accent and stress interchangeably.  Is there any way to distinguish between them?
I assumed that these terms are not synonymous.  Isn't stress really just a matter of amplitude?  That is, how loud the note is played?  If that is the case, what is accent?198.177.27.28 (talk) 07:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: These terms are not used consistently by all musicians, and may be synonymous in some cases. Referring to an "accent" might mean just a stress (that's the first definition in Harvard Dictionary). But "accent" might also mean a heightened amplitude which falls off quickly, whereas a stressed note might have a somewhat higher amplitude (compared to surrounding notes) throughout its duration. Note that the accent mark looks like a little diminuendo. Both terms mean a way to distinguish one particular note from surrounding ones, but neither suggests a greater amplitude than the other. —Wahoofive (talk) 16:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear about accent 

message: Is the definition of accent entirely correct?
I have never heard of a staccato note being an accent or of the line being an accent,what is the connection of wahoofive in this topic duhh
. --82.152.177.208 (talk) 17:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true that accent in general means emphasis, as the article says at the start, but the beginning of the section in which staccato is illustrated and discussed is "In music notation, an accent mark indicates a louder dynamic to apply to a single note or an articulation mark." Clearly a staccato dot does not indicate a louder dynamic. Theoretically we could move the staccato bit to another section of the article, but that would be awkward. The proper solution, it seems to me, is simply to remove staccato from the article. We don't need to show every possible kind of emphasis--and, in any case, staccato notes are emphatic only if they're surrounded by non-staccato notes; where most of the notes are staccato, the non-staccato notes would be emphatic. TheScotch (talk) 05:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition

message: 1) The Norton Manual of Music Notation by George Heussenstamm, published by W. W. Norton & Company, New York and London, p. 52: "MARCATO This vertical wedge [in following examples shown as ^ or upside-down ^, depending on the direction of the note stem], which always points away from the notehead, signals that the note or chord is to be played somewhat louder than an accented note or chord." 
2) Preparing Music Manuscript by Anthony Donato, Prentice-Hall, Inc., p. 50: "Marcato signs, ^ and [upside down ^], are place above or below note heads, opposite the direction of the stems. The sign always points away from the note head." 
3) Essential Dictionary of Musical Notation by Tom Gerou and Linda Rusk, Alfred Publishing Co., Inc., p.36: "When the marcato is placed over or under a note or chord, the note or chord is to be played with even more attack, and more marked, than an accent. [Example below shows ^ symbol with the word macarto beside it and an arrow pointing from the word to the symbol.]
Martellato is a bowing, not an accent. From The Technique of Orchestration by Kent Kennan and Donald Grantham, Third Edition, published by Prentice-Hall, pp.53-54: "The indication for [martellato] may be dots, arrowheads, accents, or a combination. Occasionally the word martele [French version of the Italian martellato--imagine acute accent on the final e] is written in....More often, however, the player simply chooses the martele bowing as being appropriate to the music at hand." TheScotch (talk) 07:28, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for marcato as ^  

message: Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 23:44, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional citations