Talk:Marta (footballer)

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message: Marta states in this May 2021 video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEpavbWYRY
... that she has been vegan for "almost three years," and was invited to be by Toni Pressley. Gaom83 (talk) 00:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegan since ~2018 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Hilst [talk] 15:02, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority is the name, not MARTA. Not even PETA, which is almost entirely known as PETA, is titled PETA on Wikipedia. It is titled People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and that discussion on why we do not change the name to PETA has already been thoroughly done. The discussion you linked shows editors oppose renaming the transit authority to MARTA, making it even easier to rename Marta (footballer) to Marta, since we already agreed there are no other Martas. Furthermore, Marta the footballer has almost 4 times the number of pageviews as Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority in 2024. This is consistent throughout time. Marta the footballer has over 2 million pageviews in the past 5 years, while Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority is only at 413k in the same time. Marta the footballer is the primary topic. Marta the footballer is more important, notable, and searched for than the disambiguation page, and it should be titled that for simple concision. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If it would make it more confusing to remove footballer, I am against it. Please leave footballer if it will help navigation. However, the primary topic is pretty clear and I don't think that's a valid reason. The reason it should remain is if footballer helps with identifying the correct article while searching for it. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 23:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @HWEY, please have a look at WP:PTOPIC to see what we typically mean when we say 'primary topic' in Wikipedia, it's quite a bit nuanced. --Joy (talk) 12:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, I was familiar with it and reread it at your request. The transit authority page is not titled MARTA, and discussion has decided it will not be called MARTA. Are we not free to title Marta's page Marta if the transit authority page has decided against using that title for themselves? If people would have a harder time finding Marta's page then don't do it. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 03:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is, we should help a lot of different groups of readers navigate, regardless of whether they are 'in the right' or not - those looking for the footballer, those looking for the all-uppercase version, those looking for all the other biographies of people named this way, and any long tail of whatever other topics might be of interest. If there was a single topic that had a clearly overwhelming usage and long-term significance, we could talk about a primary topic, but as it is, there doesn't seem to be only one contender for this role, that's why navigation is best organized in a more neutral manner. --Joy (talk) 07:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 23 March 2024