Talk:George W. Bush/Archive 3

message: I have recently made some questionable changes to the Bush article and related articles, and for that I apologize.  (You can blame it on me, or you can blame it on the slow server response I was experiencing, doesn't matter.)
However,
Over the past few days there has been what I perceive as an effort to remove all mention of Bush's environmental record from Wikipedia by Excising it from his biographical article, with the excuse that the article is "too long," Moving it to an obscure separate article with a single link to the main George W. Bush page Then removing all the information in the obscure article completely. I am here to tell you now, this will not occur. Bush's record on environmental issues is extensive, it deserves a write-up in this or any other encyclopedia, and it is going to by God have one. - Hephaestos 19:56, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it will be exclusively negative or unflattering, though the accurate item I inserted initially is unflattering. Lets see if it grows popular and if it does, it'll merit a page of its own. What's your favorite piece of flattering trivia about GWB? His strong desire to get back to Washington DC on 9-11, perhaps? A charming nickname for his wife? Presidents are human, with human foibles. Those don't need to be concealed, for they are part of all of us.JamesDay 01:01, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: I thought it was interesting, so I added it to Barbara and Jenna Bush. I think it'd have more impact on my life to have my breasts flashed on national TV, rather than be the cause of someone else's breast-flashing. :) Martin 18:53, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  How much was there?  Enough to keep a separate page? There are some stray enviro facts in the current article.  I suppose they could be moved to a new section or a reverted page. I would say be bold and do what you think right (I may regret saying that huh?)Ark30inf 02:11, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Environmental record

message: His career is remarkable for his rapid political ascent; for example, both the previous president, Bill Clinton, and Bush's opponent, Al Gore, have had to spend their entire adult lives in politics before reaching national levels.  However, few statistics can be applied to the small number of presidential campaigns.  The selection of the few candidates is not random.  This is also true at the state governor level, as can be observed by the varied previous careers of candidates for such office.
I removed this paragraph because it really dose not make a whole lot of sense and really dose not tell us anything Smith03 01:51, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Paragraph removed

message: It is misleading and wrong to say press coverage of Bush's jogging is definitive or unique.  The press loves to cover presidents jogging; Clinton was often shown jogging, despite his state of physical fitness  and Clinton was the first president to install a jogging track at the White House . The press has been covering presidents jogging since at least the Carter administration , . - Hephaestos 16:13, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Jogging

message: No one list links to the US Commission on Civil Rights? 
http://www.usccr.gov  look for Election 2000 and see the report on Voter Disenfranchisement  Sparky
:That would go better in U.S. presidential election, 2000 than here. - Hephaestos 00:05, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: From the beginning of the article:
"Bush is also thought to be one of the best US presidents ever and the man who will bring peace to the world. As of November 24, 2003, 89% of Americans survived approved of his handling of the War on Terror."
Where do those figures come from? And surely "bringing peace to the world" is a little POV? --KF 08:50, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously this was rather funny vandalism. Guaka 21:02, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surviving Americans 

message: go to the google website (www.google.com) and type in miserable failure and then hit the "i'm feeling lucky" button. Kingturtle 05:37, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  google 

message: This seems to be a simple thing, but the nickname "Dubya" was just added yesterday.  Right now, the article says it's a derisive name, but I seem to recall that it's pretty popular with supporters of Bush too.  I was going to edit the page, and say something along the lines of:
*"Dubya" is a nickname that Bush has carried for a long time.  It can be considered to be a positive or neutral nickname, although many opponents of the President will elongate the name and lower the tone to use it in a derisive manner.
Anyway, I'm not a fan of the guy, so I wouldn't want to put words in the mouths of people who do like him.  Plus, I'm sure the nature of the nickname has changed quite a bit over the last few years. —Mulad 21:03, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dubya" 

message: I merged the content from the contested sections, and I feel the article is now more neutral.  Unless anybody complains, I'll take off the NPOV header within a few days.  Comments? Meelar 17:05, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit peace