Talk:Hormonal contraception

message: Some of the recent edits seem problematic. Hormonal contraceptives require a prescription in the United States and most other countries because of potential health risks. This ignores that EC is over the counter in a handful of localities around the world. Furthermore, this phrasing seems either redundent (because why else would a drug require a prescription), or pushing the POV that hormonal contraceptions are unsafe. 
i don't think that's a recent edit? (i didn't put that in).
--it's from july 9th, "kbgeek." so is "even a slight deviation..." 
Cindery 16:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disadvantages

message: i removed that because it's been up there for a while needing citation. i'm not sure there can be a citation for it...i mean "easier to disrupt women's fertility"--easier for whom?  would still be opinion, better suited to a controversy section, not the opening paragraph. also, women's fertility isn't disrupted only for their few fertile days per month by hormonal contraception--the whole cycle is disrupted all month.  so, disrupting men's fertility all month/disrupting women's fertility all month--what would be the difference in convenience? what do fewer fertility days have to do with hormonal contraception which doesn't selectively disrupt fertility only during fertile days?
Cindery 02:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: male contraception

message: I made some changes to the last paragraph of the first section (for example, it said "birth control may act in one or ways..." Of course it acts in one or more ways, there's no may about it!  I basically reworked the paragraph to be more assertive.  Hormonal contraception ALL does ALL THREE of those things.  However, somebody changed it back just a few minutes later and I don't know why.  Also, my change to the disadvantage section (see what I wrote above) was also reverted.  I feel pretty confident about what I wrote...
Christiangoth 03:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am the one who reverted your changes, and I must apologize if it was jarring to have your contributions removed. There is controversy over the exact mechanisms of hormonal contraception. The current and longstanding version is concise and mentions the 3 possible mechanisms, without taking sides on the matter. Your edits was verbose, and introduced unnecessary and factually questionable elements. First of all, whenever you add new content to an article, you should supply a citation. For more information, see WP:CITE, WP:V and WP:RS. Specifically, your version introduced language to highlight perhaps giving undue weight to the failure rate "No HC prevents ovulations 100% of the time" and "but not impossible". This almost seems like editorialized comments or personal commentary added on to the existing content. But the biggest issue is that there is no hard evidence of the post-fertilization effect. I'd suggest reading Emergency_contraception#Emergency_contraception.2C_implantation.2C_and_abortion_politics and some of the talk archives there. Your edits seemed to ignore this controversy, while the current version, while not specifically mentions it, remains neutral to it. I believe the current version is fine, but I'd love to hear your specific concerns with it. Thanks for joinging the wikipedia community.-Andrew c 04:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

text: This article isn't about a specific chemical that may have multiple medical uses, but instead is about a class of contraception. That said, it may not hurt to mention briefly that some of the drugs used for contraception also are used for other purposes.-Andrew c [talk] 01:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abortive effects and other things 

message: Does anyone have any good sources for information on this?  Psychological effects from using hormonal contraception? Chupper 05:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just added a bullet section to this article about moods relation to Hormonal contraceptives. Amorton9 (talk) 14:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hormonal Contraception and Effects on Mood 

message: I would like to treat this parameter the same on all the hormonal contraception articles.  Please read my opinion and discuss this issue at Talk:Combined oral contraceptive pill#Weight parameter in infobox. LyrlTalk     C   21:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight gain parameter in infobox 

message: I find it strange that this article does not include these recent findings:
http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/33/5/1202
:Conclusions— Third-generation oral contraceptives (containing desogestrel or gestodene) confer the same risk of first ischemic stroke as second-generation oral contraceptives (containing levonorgestrel).
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2005/pr167.html
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2005/pr167.html
:An IARC Monographs Working Group has concluded that combined estrogen-progestogen oral contraceptives and combined estrogen-progestogen menopausal therapy are carcinogenic to humans (Group 1), after a thorough review of the published scientific evidence.At the same time, the Working Group stressed that there is also convincing evidence that oral contraceptives have a protective effect against some types of cancer.There are both beneficial and adverse effects for oral contraceptives and menopausal therapy. Each woman who uses these products should discuss the overall risks and benefits with her doctor. The Working Group, comprising 21 scientists from 8 countries, was convened by the IARC Monographs Programme of the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), the cancer research agency of the World Health Organization.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/7/3863
:In conclusion, a rigorous meta-analysis of the literature suggests that current use of low-dose OCs significantly increases the risk of both cardiac and vascular arterial events, including a significant risk of vascular arterial complications with third generation OCs.
*Kleinbell (talk) 04:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I worked the newer IARC reference in a bit more smoothly (and more neutrally).  I went back to using the quote from the older IARC item because the quotations said the same thing, but the older one was shorter.  Since the message doesn't seem to have changed much, didn't see need to specify years.  Not sure what the NPOV issue is here since the newer IARC conclusions RE cancer seem to be similar to the older (i.e., it's a mixed bag).  Zodon (talk) 07:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: I removed the addition about cardiovascular risk and brought it here for improvement.
The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism concluded in 2005 that "a rigorous meta-analysis of the literature suggests that current use of low-dose OCs significantly increases the risk of both cardiac and vascular arterial events."
Problems:
* The summary given is not particularly useful - it doesn't give perspective on the magnitude of risk increase vs. overall risk, vs. other risks.  It also overemphasizes one aspect, while missing much of the conclusion.
* The "significantly" in the quote was statistical significance, not necessarily clinically significant.
* Minor note - this was the conclusion of Baillargeon et al., (at least the abstract gives no indication that the conclusion was endorsed by or the position of the journal).  
* Reference could be improved - i.e. what is the actual significance of this finding to OC.  (If covered by contraceptive tech or such, would be a better source).
"The modern use of low-dose OCs, limited to healthy women and restricted in time, should not increase noticeably the incidence of these adverse outcomes, which might be outweighed by the benefits of contraception. However, prolonged exposure to low-dose OCs in a population at higher risk may significantly increase the incidence of cardiovascular outcomes and prompt consideration of alternative therapeutic or contraceptive interventions."  Zodon (talk) 07:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cardiovascular risk 

message: this page needs all that new research into these (synthetic) birth control pills ending up in the water and animals.
and possible mixing with pesticides!
May 20120 in Nature magazine - The hidden costs of flexible fertility - offers great insight into this issue 150.101.162.145 (talk) 02:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  synthetic hormones released into the environment and spreading 

message: I removed the following sentence added at 17:07, 19 February 2016 by 83.4.26.142 (talk):Pharmacologists list preventing implantation as one of the mechanisms of action of hormonal contraception.Bertram G. Katzung, Basic and Clinical Pharmacology, 2012 This topic is already addressed in more detail in this Wikipedia article by current, authoritative medical reference textbooks about contraception.20 editions (7 editions of Meyers, Jawetz & Goldfien’s Review of Medical Pharmacology, 13 editions of Katzung’s Basic & Clinical Pharmacology) over 47 years of this undergraduate health sciences general pharmacology textbook have the same misleading, unsubstantiated, unsourced four-sentence "Mechanism of Action" paragraph:• Meyers, Frederick H.; Jawetz, Ernest; Goldfien, Alan (1968). "37. The Gonadal Hormones and Inhibitors" in Review of Medical Pharmacology, 1st edition. Los Altos, Calif.: Lange Medical Publications, p. 391:Oral ContraceptivesPharmacological EffectsA. Mechanism of Contraceptive ActionThe combinations of estrogens and progestins and the sequential agents appear to exert their effect largely through inhibition of ovulation.The combination agents containing estrogens and progestins also produce a change in the cervical mucus, in the uterine endometrium, and in the motility and secretion in the fallopian tubes, all of which decrease the likelihood of conception and implantation.The continuous use of progestins alone does not inhibit ovulation.The other factors mentioned, therefore, play a major role in the prevention of pregnancy when these agents are used.◦ Goldfien, Alan (1982). "38. The Gonadal Hormones & Inhibitors" in Katzung, Bertram G. (ed.) Basic & Clinical Pharmacology, 1st editionreplaced: "fallopian" with: "uterine"◦ Goldfien, Alan (1987). "39. The Gonadal Hormones & Inhibitors" in Katzung, Bertram G. (ed.) Basic & Clinical Pharmacology, 3rd editionremoved: "and the sequential agents appear to" and "containing estrogens and progestins" and added: "always"◦ Chrousos, George P.; Zoumakis, Emmanouil N.; Gravanis, Achille (2001). "40. The Gonadal Hormones & Inhibitors" in Katzung, Bertram G. (ed.) Basic & Clinical Pharmacology, 8th edition removed: "Contraceptive" and added: "contraceptive" and "selective inhibition of pituitary function that results in" and removed: "the" • Chrousos, George P. (2015). "40. The Gonadal Hormones & Inhibitors" in Katzung, Bertram G.; Trevor, Anthony J. (eds.) Basic & Clinical Pharmacology, 13th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill Education. , p. 708:Hormonal Contraception(Oral, Parenteral, & Implanted Contraceptives)Pharmacological EffectsA. Mechanism of ActionThe combinations of estrogens and progestins exert their contraceptive effect largely through selective inhibition of pituitary function that results in inhibition of ovulation.The combination agents also produce a change in the cervical mucus, in the uterine endometrium, and in motility and secretion in the uterine tubes, all of which decrease the likelihood of conception and implantation.The continuous use of progestins alone does not always inhibit ovulation.The other factors mentioned, therefore, play a major role in the prevention of pregnancy when these agents are used.The paragraph's original author, the late Alan Goldfien, MD, was an adult endocrinologist with no special expertise in contraception; the paragraph’s current author, George P. Chrousos, MD, is a pediatric endocrinologist with no special expertise in contraception.BC07 (talk) 05:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mechanism of action 

message: Hi! I will be editing this article for a college class. I look forward to helping add new information and fixing errors. --Annasandberg (talk) 19:30, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing for College Class 

message: I think the section on the new body of research that highlights a possible correlation between hormonal contraception and depression in adolescent should be added to Depression (mood) or Major depressive disorder or both. I'm voicing this here in case there are any major objections to this recommendation. If there are none, I will add a sentence or two to the depression content at the end of the week. Mcbrarian (talk) 14:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Depression & hormonal contraception

message: Trompele legate exista riscuri de sarcina fata mea are un an și 5 luni și mi-am legat trompele pe 7 aprilie iar eu nu mai am contact cu soțul de o lună iar acum pe data de 1 vine acasă este plecat noi nu ne protejam de fel 109.166.136.87 (talk) 07:21, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trompele legate 

message: — Assignment last updated by Amorton9 (talk) 18:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Scientific Communication

message: Include that birth control enters the wastewater stream via urine and cause reproductive system damage to fish and other animals. Nature 485,441 May 2012 |Owen, R., Jobling, S. The hidden costs of flexible fertility. Nature 485, 441 (2012). https://doi.org/10.1038/485441a
"Decades of research have shown that EE2 and other oestrogens cause widespread damage in the aquatic environment by disrupting endocrine systems in wildlife. This includes a condition called intersex: the irreversible development of eggs in the testes of male fish, which reduces their reproductive successJobling, S. & Owen, R. Ethinyl oestradiol: bitter pill for the precautionary principle in: Late Lessons from Early Warnings: Science, Precaution, Innovation (European Environment Agency, in the press).. When researchers introduced EE2 into a Canadian lake in 2001 at the vanishingly low level of 5 parts per trillion, the population of one fish species collapsedKidd, K. A. et al. Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 104, 8897–8901 (2007).. The potency of EE2 as an endocrine disrupter makes it a serious threat to wildlife and fisheries." 2600:1700:D591:5F10:8D4A:449A:88E:A161 (talk) 00:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effect of birth control hormones in urine wastewater harm on fish and other species 

message: Fertility monitoring devices which rely on the measurement of hormones which govern the menstral cycle have been marketed as a contraceptive device within the UK (and possibly in other countries; see https://uk.clearblue.com/contraception/persona-monitor). Should these be included here? 2A0A:EF40:1F:2601:AD7B:F00:1B7D:43C9 (talk) 20:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fertility monitoring contraception 

message: The section on "Musicality" is dubious and has no proper citations. 198.140.202.131 (talk) 00:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side effects