Talk:Viktor Frankl

message: Did Frankl really coin the word Existentialim?  And if so, can we have a reference?  The Gabriel Marcel entry also claims coinage for its subject.
 
           no, he did not, that was sartre and camus  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.102.40 (talk) 09:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The word Existentialism 

message: I edited the article and had really trouble to verify this paragraph:
In Theresienstadt, he worked as a general practitioner in a clinic until his skill in psychiatry was noticed and he was asked to establish a special unit to help newcomers to the camp overcome the shock. He later set up a suicide watch unit, and all intimations of suicide were reported to him. To maintain his own sanity in the dismal conditions, he would frequently march outside and deliver a lecture to an imaginary audience about "Psychotherapeutic Experiences in a Concentration Camp."
If someone can confirm this, please put this paragraph back into the article. Themanwithoutapast 22:36, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Look here, the article about Regina Jonas, part of it sounds similar to me:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_Jonas Austerlitz 88.72.4.143 17:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I reinserted the material (excluding the suicide watch unit) back into the section. Please review. --Otheus 08:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  substantial edit

message: Experiences in a concentration camp, taken from Frankl's book Man's Search For Meaning Viktor Frankl, can we take the link  from the German wikipedia site to this english one, too? The text sheds much light on the problem of imagination vs. reality.
Is is valid for the section External links? Austerlitz 88.72.4.77 12:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Question of God 

message: I did some copy-editing, both minor and major. The major copy-editing was to make the article more concise. While this article needs more "meat", it does need more "fluff". --Otheus 19:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-edits and conciseness 

message: If someone knows a proper word or phrase that could be used instead of Beamtenfamile that would be great. To really understand the word it would be useful to know that in Austria (and maybe other countries as well) it used to be that you stayed in the same level of work as your fathers. For examples there were lots doctor-families, or families where everyone was a civil servant, and the point here is that Frankl found his way out of that pattern... --VeronikaMM 09:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I used the phrase "family of civil servants", but I don't think this is as impactful to English readers who are not familiar with the Old Europe patterns of employment. The closest thing we Americans would have is "family business", but that doesn't sound accurate, especially not to the tag "civil servant". --Otheus 09:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense... Family Businesses exist here too and always did, but I never really considered it to be even close to what I was refering to. The fact is that children took (take) over the family business is that they identify with it (probably they had worked there as kids already and grew into it, whereas I see the families of civil servants more as something that is a tradition more than anything else.--VeronikaMM 13:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Beamtenfamilie

message: I am adding information from the German site, to mainly complete the biographical information...--VeronikaMM 10:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding biographical info

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message: Though assigned to ordinary labor details until the last few weeks of the war,: what kind of "ordinary labor details" are you talking about?
:Austerlitz -- 88.72.17.8 12:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Austerlitz -- 88.72.17.8 12:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: -- 88.72.18.59 11:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I don't understand

message: In the March-April edition 1991 there should be an interview with Viktor Frankl saying that he had been in Auschwitz camp for some days only. Until now I have not been able to find that interview online or elsewhere.
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and I still don't know the english title of Timothy Pytell's biography about Frankl.
:Austerlitz -- 88.72.11.148 14:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Robert Schuller]]'s Magazin POSSIBILITIES, The International Magazine of Hope

message: Please correct the ISBN for The unconscious God : psychotherapy and theology. Thanks in advance! Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 06:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISBN's 

message: How do you pronounce his last name? Like "Frankle"? --antilivedT | C | G 09:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronounciation? 

message: I'm looking for the quote from "Man's Search for Meaning" dealing with our last freedom is the freedom to choose our attitude about what we are experiencing.  Can someone please provide this for me?????  I would truly appreciate it.
Thanks so much  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.21.145 (talk) 17:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need correct quote please. 

message: I find it odd that some articles use "religious stance" and some use "religious beliefs". I corrected this to religious stance in this article. 128.214.9.63 (talk) 12:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia syntax for describing individual's worldview 

message: Following the addition of a trivia tag by Koavf on  30 January 2010, I have incorporated the information into the body of the article as it is currently structured, with further citations. The tag was reasonable. The problem with placing such information into an 'interesting facts' section is that it does indeed give the impression of trivial significance. On the contrary, these bits of information point to fundamental principles underlying Frankl's approach, which makes them far from trivial. 
But a reader is not to know that unless incorporated into the text with some sort of explanation, which I have attempted to do. Having done that, I have removed the 'interesting facts' section. If something about what Frankl said or wrote captures one's attention and imagination, it is probably not trivial. The question then is why did it capture one's attention? What does it tell us about this person's philosophical approach? In answering that question, you are almost bound to get also the context to help you place it into the article.  
Sometimes the process of that builds the article in a way we decide to restructure it. You could go in that direction with the Frankl article if you wanted, for his approach was not just therapeutic. It had philosophical underpinnings. You can see just from the Yalom citations, or pretty much any description of his work really, because answering the question of how he arrived at the title Man's Search for Meaning will just take you in that direction. But you don't have to take the article in that direction, you can just build it around the existing structure to make sense. If you can't get the article to make sense without ommitting key descriptions of his work, then you pretty much have to restructure the article. In the current case, I saw no need. It all naturally follows on from the concentration camp experiences, which fundamentally shaped everything about his philosphical and therapeutic approach to life. And I was pleased to note that Yalom provided a nice quotation to link to the 'Sunday neurosis' citation. The bracketed term in the Yalom quote is directly from the Yalom book, just so you know that I wasn't creatively inferring it. Wotnow (talk) 09:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Interesting facts' incorporated into text

message: I know it seemed almost redundant but out of respect I added his surviving family member and was wondering if anyone knew where he died so mabe that can be added? Desette (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death and is family 

message: Frankl was clearly racially Jewish but is there any evidence that he believed in the God of Judaism? Man's Search for Meaning is a key book for those interested in a secular spirituality that does not require any belief in God. Should his beliefs therefore be classified as "agnostic" or "humanist" or "unknown"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.43.37 (talk) 11:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See Klingberg's When Life Calls Out To Us: the love and lifework of Viktor and Elly Frankl. He remained Jewish his entire life, and even practiced some Jewish observances. Larryyr (talk) 18:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion	Jewish ? 

message: I removed the umbrella Category:Nazi concentration camp survivors, but User:Zymurgy has restored it here.  Frankl is in the Theresienstadt, Auschwitz and Dachau survivors' sub-categories, so why do we need this one as well?  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 01:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The guideline is in WP:CAT. "... each categorized page should be placed in all of the most specific categories to which it logically belongs. This means that if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C...." – S. Rich (talk) 02:55, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, that's exactly my understanding too.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the umbrella category Nazi concentration camp survivors?

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message: If we're going to allow the following sentence to exist in this Wikipedia article, can we please get the original author, or someone, perhaps ANYONE to edit it? This is perhaps one of the worst, most convoluted, meaningless sentences I have ever read: 
Frankl has been the subject of criticism from several holocaust analysts[5][6] who questioned the levels of Nazi accommodation that the ideology of logotherapy has and Frankl personally willingly pursued in the time periods before Frankl's internment, when Frankl voluntarily requested to perform unskilled lobotomy experiments approved by the Nazis on Jews,[7] to the time period of his internment, in what is hinted upon in Frankl's own autobiographical account and later under the investigative light of biographical research.[8][9]
Please. UGH.
Monoxide (talk) 01:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incoherent Sentence 

message: Language like this is common to the restaurant trying to stand out from the crowd. Rather than saying they have 16 wines, they have "over 15".
In this instance, it's just bizarre. Surely Frankl wrote a discrete number of books. He may have weighed less than 200 pounds or lived over 35 miles from the nearest hospital, but how many books he wrote is one number. Maybe it's 40. Perhaps its 163. Most meaningful of all, perhaps it's 42. We can only hope.
I'm marking the phrase as needing a cite in hopes of clearing this up. - SummerPhDv2.0 02:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "over 39 books" 

message: It appears that around April 2020, Frankl's grandson Alexvesely made mass edits to the Viktor Frankl page. e.g. this edit, rewriting the whole page, including deleting all of the large Controversy section, replacing it with 2 lines. That all seems extremely inappropriate. I had looked up a lot of the references that were linked to by that Controversy section a couple of years ago, and they seemed reliable sources. I tried to revert today but must be done manually, it said. I don't have time but it doesn't seem like someone's grandson should be totally rewriting, whitewashing, their grandfather's page. I'm not sure how this was allowed to happen. 122.148.184.131 (talk) 21:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frankl's grandson mass-edited this page 

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