Talk:Epitaph

message: This is a terrible article now. We need an explanation of the term and history of it. Now examples... --205.188.116.13 02:06, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, I found the page to be inspiring with the examples, but it is lacking history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.142.44.125 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I disagree, at least at this stage of the articles development. The article can be improved by sectionalising, for example, humour, family, work, religious and so on. A narrative can be used to tie together or group styles. An historical timeline or discusion would be helpful as would a comparison of different cultures. --Theo Pardilla 09:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Terrible article

message: I see that my removal of the epitaphs was reverted. Theo, could you perhaps explain your rationale behind it? Perhaps WP:TRIVIA was not the right guideline to use as justification, but certainly you can't deny that the entire section is completely unsourced. The page has been marked as missing citations since December 2006. If no one could find any sources between then and now, then the page needs to be trimmed down. Per WP:PROVEIT, "Any edit lacking a reliable source may be removed, but editors may object if you remove material without giving them a chance to provide references." I think sufficient time has been given to finding sources. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  At least one other person has posted here about how they think that there shouldn't be a list of epitaphs. You haven't given any good reason as to why these epitaphs are "notable" and should be on here. Given that these two epitaphs also make an appearance on your user page, it seems like you have some ulterior motive in keeping them on here. Perhaps you can give me a decent reason why they should stay on the page? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of famous epitaphs 

message: We need a link to Funeral oration (ancient Greece) (epitaphios logos). I'm dubious about the Greek now quoted as meaning "on the gravestone" - it looks like a nominative to me, ie just meaning "gravestone".  But I don't know. Johnbod (talk) 15:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: TFD describes it as "Middle English, from Old French epitaphe, from Latin epitaphium, from Greek epitaphion, from neuter of epitaphios, funerary : epi-, epi- + taphos, tomb." Hmm. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 15:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: right - I think "epi" is "on", so is the gravestone on the tomb, or the epitaph on the gravestone=tomb? Maybe it's ok; I'll stick the link in anyway. Johnbod (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: User:Athaenara has recently refactored this talk page but at the same time moved comments from one section to another and in doing so changed the flow and context of users comments. I have reverted these changes to my posts (((Reverting minor accidental (or disruptive) misrepresentation of other editors' opinions or sneaky vandalism through Refactoring by User:Athaenara))) however it is up to other users to decide whether their particlar subsequent posts context or meaning requires post refactoring restoration. Please refrain from Refactoring of talk pages as these changes are disruptive for the reasons given here.--Theo Pardilla 13:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Refactoring talk pages

message: by: George Gray
I HAVE studied many times
The marble which was chiseled for me-
A boat with a furled sail at rest in a harbor.
In truth it pictures not my destination
Buy my life
For love was offered me and I shronk from its disillusionment;
Sorrow knocked at my door, but I dreaded the chances.
Yet all the while I hungered for meaning in my life.
And now I know that we must life the sail
And catch the winds of destiny
Wherever they drive the boat.
To put meaning in one's life may end in madness,
but life without meaning is the torture
Of restlessness and vague desire-
It is a boat longing for the the sea and yet afraid.
Malanjor (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for additional example 

message: I changed Virginia Woolf's epitaph from all caps to match what appears in her book The Waves which is the original source of the quote. I believe that is a more authoritative than famousquotes.me.uk. Besides inscriptions are frequently written in all caps just because it's easier to carve capital letters in stone not because that's the author's intent. Shakespeare's epitaph for example is also carved in all caps.
In my edit I referenced a photo of what I said was her "actual tombstone". That is not the tombstone of the famous Virginia Woolf but another person with the same name. There's no way I know of to edit that so I'm putting it here. I cannot find any references online of her actual tombstone. Vroo (talk) 04:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virginia Woolf's epitaph 

message: This Epicurean epitaph in Latin was widespread in the Roman world, so it might be worth a mention:
"Non fui, fui, non sum, non curo" (often inscribed as the acronym "NFNSNC" on tombstones)
English translation: “I was not; I was; [now] I am not; I do not mind.”
From the website of the British Humanist Association:
The views of the Greek philosopher Epicurus were highly influential in Ancient Greece and Rome. His followers included the Roman emperor Hadrian, and his ideas were passed on by Cicero, Plutarch and Lucretius. This epitaph, based on his philosophy, can still be seen on many ancient gravestones of the Roman Empire, and is often used at humanist funerals
Abvgd (talk) 18:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Widely used Latin epitaph 

message: I have observed that there seems to be confusion between this word and "epithet." Would it be appropriate to add this to the clarification tag at the top? Please feel free to go ahead and do so if it seems relevant and useful.
As always, I submit to the wisdom of the community.
Zach the Wanderer (talk) 03:56, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perhaps add to "not to be confused with..." 

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