Talk:Göran Persson

message: Changed place of birth in text and table from Sudermannia (historical region) to Södermanland County (modern administrative and political region). Since the historical regions were not in administrative use when Persson was born, this seems more appropriate to me. Alarm 10:54, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

message: I wonder about the wording. To non-Swedes, I believe Katrineholm would be a town, and for being a municipality, I question if Katrineholm's municipality is sufficiently small to be designated as "small". But, of course, it's not my cup of tea — I'm just curious.--Ruhrjung 19:12, 2004 Nov 6 (UTC)
As I am a Swede, I might be able to resolve these issues. I agree Katrineholm Municipality isn't the smallest of Swedish municipalities (it has more inhabitants than average), so maybe the wording should be changed. Katrineholm is the town where the municipal offices of Katrineholm Municipality are located, but towns are parts of, not equal to, municipalities in Sweden. Thus, Katrineholm is a town in Katrineholm Municipality, not a town surrounded by Katrineholm Municipality. 130.238.5.5 21:56, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "small municipality" of Katrineholm 

message: I removed the following paragraph which constituted somewhere far too close to a third of the text, which didn't make the article particularly balanced. There must be more relevant things to write about Persson.
:On the 5th of February 2005 Persson was admitted to the degree of Honorary Doctor of medicine at his youths Örebro University. Örebro University has been openly criticized for this from both voices within the parliament and its own faculty. The critics focus mainly on that no faculty at Örebro University was willing to admit Persson to the title of honorary doctor. However, this did not stop the universities board of directors, who promptly admitted Persson to the faculty of medicine, which at the time had no employees that could protest Persson's scarce academic record. Subsequently an investigation has been launched in order to investigate whether Person's Doctorate could be construed as a bribe from the University board of directors. The motive is said to stem from Persson's efforts in persuading the parliament in 1999 to go against the recommendations of Sweden's council for higher education and award the, at the time Örebro college, university status.
--Ruhrjung 00:12, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
Personally, I would include it if it's a significant thing, even if the article is inadequate in other respects. Everyking 01:44, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much focus on one single scandale 

message: The Göran Persson cabinet has been subject to much debate, mr Persson has been interrogated in KU (constitutional court), something very unusual for Swedish primeministers. Recently he lost his minister of foreign affairs, since it became evident that she had violated the freedom of press act. He is constantly accused of concentrating power around his own person and in a goal-oriented manner weeding out political rivals within "the Party". The election authority has proved that the Social Democratic party mass-voted with collected voting cards in the last election and the vice primeminister silenced criticism WITHIN the party. There has been a prolonged debate about the handling of the Tsunami disaster with lies and irregularities from the ministers, there is the defamation campaign towards the opposition leader, the attack on the only major free Swedish TV-channel, TV4 etc. Neither of it will paint a positive image of Göran Persson, I know that, but still, if it is what people in Sweden face everyday, shouldn't we mention at least SOME of it on the wiki-page? Since when was the wiki-servers shipped to China? I thought they were still in the land of the free and brave or whatever some may claim to be. To only talk about scandals would be biast, I am aware of that, but to not mention any of them, just the positive stuff, is that really a true and balanced picture? (matal)
:Go ahead and edit the article! Just make sure you source everything and clearly attribute any opinions or interpretations you include. Almost all public cabinet and parliament documents and more than enough newspaper articles are online, so it shouldn't be difficult. up+land 13:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the scandals 

message: How is the military draft picture and the satire picture relevant to this article? Also there seems to be a lot of POV in the article text. 
Moment of clarity 23:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable pictures

message: This section contains a lot that doesn't really concern the career of Göran Persson himself, but is rather some kind of discourse about the political climate, for example By this time however, the opposition Moderate Party had reinvigorated by appointing Fredrik Reinfeldt as leader. They spent 2004 moving toward the political centre ground, and by December it had been rewarded with a steady lead in the opinion polls. Reinfeldt had toned down promises of large-scale tax cuts, instead insisting that a nonsocialist government would better run public services such as health and education. (That by the way isn't really correct. I think the "blue" political block, where Fredrik Reinfelds party is one of 4 parties, had a slight lead for some time, though at the moment I'm quite sure that it is the "red" block which has a little lead.) I'm leaving everything as it is for now, as there is too much for me to change everything now. --213.65.178.172 23:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved out the following from "political career": By this time however, the opposition Moderate Party had reinvigorated by appointing Fredrik Reinfeldt as leader. They spent 2004 moving toward the political centre ground, and by December it had been rewarded with a steady lead in the opinion polls. Reinfeldt had toned down promises of large-scale tax cuts, instead insisting that a nonsocialist government would better run public services such as health and education., since I don't think it belongs in "The political career of Göran Persson". Maybe something like this belongs under the article on the current election. Though as said above, the Moderate party has never been in lead, though the difference between the blocks has usually been some single per cents in most opinion polls, sometimes with one block on top, sometimes the other. 213.65.178.19 22:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Political career

message: "Persson has been in office for more than ten years, and is about to become the second-longest continuously-governing prime minister of Sweden, exceeded only by Tage Erlander." Well, the first part would be simple to update, but I don't know if he ever actually did become the second-longest serving. Everyking 07:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sentence needs updating

message: Why was the chunk of text about Persson's stand on animals(that took me nearly an hour to write) erased? It had full referance and all. --83.248.190.175 21:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taking a stance for animals 

message: I think the point about Persson's post-political PR career should be expanded a bit mentioning that one of the JKL's customers in Sweden was E.ON, a shareholder in the controversial Nord Stream pipeline project. This way Persson was a right person in E.ON's and thus Gazprom's hands to lobby for the pipeline as Persson had much experience in arguing on the pipeline issues on the Swedish side.
A reference for his straighforward transition to PR: http://www.thelocal.se/7241/20070508/
And about allegiations of his work for E.ON (have not read this article thoroughly not being a good swedish reader). Follow the references in the following post:
http://gryningensljus.blogspot.com/2008/09/det-r-pengarna-som-styr.html
Matumba (talk) 13:25, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial affiliation with PR 

message: What about Mr. Persson's professional life? There is nothing regarding what employment he had before entering politics. The only things listed are various municipal and national assignments for the Social Democrats.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.135.201 (talk) 16:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about his professional life? 

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