Talk:History of Victoria

message: Dunno if Melbourne can be called the financial centre of Australia and New Zealand. Throughout Australias history melbourne and sydney have been fairly equal. thats why canberra was built. (Message posted:  00:14, 4 Jun 2005 by IP 195.110.75.89)
During the second half of the 19th century Melbourne was the financial centre of Australasia....that's why even today lots of Australia's largest banks and financial institutions have their HQ in Melbourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.113.89 (talk • contribs) 
This article could be greatly expanded and improved.  I've made a start with some early European stuff, and I'll gradually develop it further - at least to the gold rushes. MulgaBill 22:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: - more on the period 1803-1834, and on Aboriginal Victoria. MulgaBill 01:23, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, the article seems long enough that it could be forked and the pre-european sections reduced to a summary section. --Martyman-(talk) 08:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

message: Even with the non-history removed (and I have just removed the inevitable "Portuguese discovery" mythology), this article is still very inadequate. More than half it deals with doscovery and early settlement, and everything since 1855 is squeezed into a few paragraphs at the end. This is what happens when history articles are written by amateur antiquarians rather than historians. Adam 06:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More work needed

message: Hi David.moreno72. Im really pleased to see the work you are doing to improve this page. However, Im not clear on your removal of material (replaced by Dl2000) on the grounds its "copyright copy". Or have I misunderstood something?  The Franks murder is now sourced to a 1915 newspaper - an original source but not necessarily any more reliable, and almost certainly not written by a historian.
Anyway, to illustrate the frontier conflict of Port Phillip District, why not put in the quite well documented disappearance of Gellibrand and Hesse, and the Faithfull Massacre etc etc? Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 04:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure - I take some of your points and I dont know the writer in question at all. However, as a new editor its worth you checking this WP article on reliable sources: Wikipedia:RS. You'll see that WP insists on verifiable secondary sources wherever possible, not primary sources. By the way, copyright law does not prohibit anyone (inc WP editors fortunately!!!) quoting a published writer, as long as its acknowledged and appropriate. See Wikipedia:Citing_sources. Anyway good luck, its good to see another Aust Hist enthusiast.Nickm57 (talk) 06:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing Copyright copy?

message: Clearly we need to have a section covering Victorian history post WW2.
The section we had for the 1990s, however, was completely unsourced and highly POV. It was a clearly political effort at painting Victoria as ruined by the ALP and saved by the Liberal Party. There's not really any way of salvaging it properly - there needs to be a proper 1945-2012 section written, and that wasn't it. Garth M (talk) 23:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE - even more disturbed. That's been sitting there, unsourced, pretending to be the sum total of Victorian postwar history, since User:Biatch added it in October 2006. Garth M (talk) 23:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: PostWar history of Victoria

message: I see nothing about the process whereby it was determined the border with NSW would be the Murray River.  For some time it was planned that the Murrumbidgee River would define the southern border (or part thereof).  There must be stuff we can use about this matter.  --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 02:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Border issue

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message: Why add text lifted from elsewhere on WP, relating to Australia's federal government and the events of WW2 to this page, which is on one of Australia's states? There is story to be told about the state of Victoria during WW2, but this is not it.Nickm57 (talk) 21:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Sorry. Have removed it. "Main article" usually points to a more specialised article about the same subject. I let myself be misled by that. That formulation should be changed.--Ettrig (talk) 05:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why add text on Australia in WW2 to this article?