Talk:Trust Company (band)

message: If the band broke up, why isn't everyone listed as "former band members?"
Is there any official writing of the name "Trust Company"?
It's because I'm getting confused about all of those alternate writings and looking for the real one...
:There are a couple of different writings. On their The Lonely Position of Neutral CD it's written as both TRUST*CO. and trustcompany, on their True Parallels CD it's written as TRUST*COMPANY, and on their website it's written as TRUSTcompany. Also don't forget to sign with ~~~~. Mwutz 05:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: I understand that Wiki relies on sources for information contained in articles, but I think everyone can agree that just because something is written SOMEWHERE doesn't mean it's necessarily accurate or not the work of someone's opinion. According to some music journalists, Trust Company is a nu-metal band. Sorry to say, but music journalism is not an area that features professionals who have deeply studied their subject (music) in any scientific, academic way. It just doesn't come with the subject's territory. When you read medical journals and other publications of the sort, the articles are written by people who have a deep, studied, official knowledge of the subject. Even further, these are usually reviewed by their peers, who must agree that the writer knows what they are writing about. This is not the case with music journalism. Genres are hard to describe, because they can be slightly subjective. For that reason, people do a lot of "lumping" when it comes to bands and artists. They basically say , "Oh, Staind, Cold, and Trust Company all toured with nu-metal bands in the early 2000s? Then they must ALSO be nu-metal! (Even though these three bands have never had any hip-hop, funk, electronic, etc. elements to them)". If the inclusion of the term 'nu-metal' on Trust Company's wiki is based on information contained in the Wikipedia page for nu-metal, then we can compare the aspects between the genre and this band. Let's do that.According to the nu-metal page, these are the main aspects of the genre's sound followed by a breakdown of how Trust Company fits into them.
*Nu metal bassists and drummers often draw influence from funk and hip hop break beats.
**Really don't hear any funk or rap beats in any Trust Company songs.
*Use of seven-string guitars (which are sometimes downtuned) over traditional six-string guitars.
**They use six-string guitars.
*DJs are also sometimes used for additional rhythmic instrumentation such as music sampling, turntable scratching and electronic backgrounds.
**They do not employ these aspects in their music.
*Nu metal vocal styles range between singing, rapping, screaming and death growling, sometimes using multiple of these styles within one song.
**Kevin pretty much spends 85% of the time whispering, 13% singing, and 2% screaming (which is really a half-scream, half-yell).
*The lyrics of many nu metal bands focus on pain and personal alienation.
**Kevin's lyrics are mostly about relationships and the breakdown of them, unlike nu-metal bands that sing about being picked on in school and abused by their parents.
*Nu metal uses the traditional pop structure of verses, choruses and bridges.
**So does pop, and rock, and pop-punk, and pop-rock, and grunge, etc. See the point?
*Nu metal is also sometimes noted for participation of women in the genre.
**No women in Trust Company. But still, women are found in many music genres.
*Bands associated with nu metal have derived influence from a variety of diverse styles, including electronic music, funk, glam metal, gothic rock, hardcore punk, hip hop, New Wave music, industrial metal, jazz, post-punk, symphonic rock and synthpop. Nu metal also derives influences from multiple sub-genres of heavy metal including rap metal, funk metal, alternative metal and thrash metal.
**Glam? Goth? Hip-hop? Industrial/electronic? Funk metal? Rap metal? Thrash? Jazz? I really doubt you can argue these aspects can be found anywhere in any Trust Company song. They're a rock band, basically. Nothing fancy.
With this being said, I am removing nu-metal from the band's genre list. If anyone can provide a sound argument on why this should be there, speak your mind here. But don't offer some link to a hack journalist, or, even worse, some huge music site ran by a handful of people who just copy and paste information on bands from other sites without doing any research of their own.I would like to add that I am not trying to fight a genre-war because I am in any way associated with this band. Additionally, I am not trying to prevent them from being labeled as nu-metal because I have some sort of embarrassment or shame for liking a band labeled as such. I'm happy to admit to liking many nu-metal bands like 3rd Strike, Linkin Park, Darwin's Waiting Room, etc. I just can't stand when something is labeled incorrectly.Hsxeric (talk) 01:47, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Dry Cell and Linkin Park were thrown into the same bin of NuMetal recognition. Dont fel bad. 2603:9001:1003:18FA:8A52:B8E9:1C0E:B49F (talk) 23:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but LP has rapping and a DJ. Hsxeric (talk) 23:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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