Talk:2012 Africa Cup of Nations

message: "Equatorial Guinea hui will host the opening game with Gabon hosting the rest of the tournament."
Not quite sure what is meant by this. E. Guinea has 2 stadium according to the article to be used for the tournament but this line implies that only the opening game will be played in the country. If it is only hosting the one game then how come it has two stadiums? 94.196.41.68 (talk) 15:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Clear 

message: It is a grand mistake to remove Nigeria from the table of the competition, the country's president says in no way interferes with the football federation of Nigeria, is independent, he has no power to revoke the selection of the country.
Fifa, who actively discourage government intervention in national associations, issued a response, saying: "We have no official information on this matter. However, in general, Fifa's position regarding political interference in football is well known." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.58.15.207 (talk) 15:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nigeria ban

message: Why are the 2 host countries listed with different qualification dates? Surely they should both have the same date, the date that they won the bid. Crazydude22 (talk) 06:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qualified teams 

message: Please be kind enough not to remove these sections again.
Even if the cafonline.com website doesn't show them yet, the competition dates have been communicated officially during the 33rd CAF Ordinary General Assembly last 25th of February (Source: lequipe.fr []).
Knowing the first and last dates of the competition, it is quite easy to figure out the schedule and order of the matches, based on the previous CAF Africa Cup of Nations and the allocation of the 2 co-hosts in the group A and D, based on previous 2 nations CAF CANs.
If you wait for the cafonline.com to give you info, you will never be on time... This website is unworthy of an organization such as CAF, and has been very slow and very untidy indeed in the refreshing of its pages during CAF CHAN 2011!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafa1985 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you the CAF website is not a timely source of data for scheduling and results.  However, "figuring out" specific dates of future events based on how a similar event happened in the past is just not valid in this forum. LarryJeff (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Group stage & Knockout phase 

message: The map needs the island of Bioko to be coloured in as it is part of Equatorial Guinea. Delusion23 (talk) 12:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: Where did the attendance figures come from?  The match reports do not specify them. Banana Fingers (talk) 10:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attendance 

message: I tried correcting it but somebody changed it back, so I'll fix it again and explain here why I'm right. Currently it says:
*Mali will advance to the quarterfinals as the second-placed team in the group if:
**they do not lose to Botswana and Guinea fail to defeat Ghana, or
**they defeat Botswana and Guinea defeat Ghana by a margin of at least four goals.
This is wrong. It's not just down to the Guinea-Ghana result; how many goals Mali scores counts as well towards the goal difference calculations. If Guinea only defeat Ghana by only one goal, Ghana's goal difference would be +2, and Mali would still qualify if they win by at least four goals against Botswana, ending up with a goal difference of +3 (Ghana would beat Mali on head-to-head if tied). It's the combined margin that counts here. Mali will qualify as long as the combined margin of the wins is at least five goals. I'm fixing this to say:
*Mali will advance to the quarterfinals as the second-placed team in the group if:
**they do not lose to Botswana and Guinea fail to defeat Ghana, or
**they defeat Botswana and Guinea defeat Ghana, and the combined margin of the two wins is at least five goals.
And similarly with Botswana. Currently it says:
*Botswana will advance to the quarterfinals as the second-placed team in the group if they defeat Mali by a margin of at least nine goals and Ghana defeat Guinea.
This is also wrong. Botswana will advance even if they only score one goal against Mali, provided Ghana score enough goals against Guinea to bring Guinea's goal difference below Botswana's. In this case, Botswana needs a combined margin of ten goals, since they would lose to Guinea on head-to-head if tied. I'm fixing this to say:
*Botswana will advance to the quarterfinals as the second-placed team in the group if they defeat Mali and Ghana defeat Guinea, and the combined margin of the two wins is at least ten goals.  74.71.251.250 (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why I'm correcting the inaccurate Group D breakdown 

message: Take a look at the #Tie-breaking criteria section (emphasis added).
So if a three-way tie involves Ghana, Mali and Guinea, points and goal differences from the Botswana games will not matter.
In order for this to happen, Mali and Guinea have to beat Botswana and Ghana - and each of the three teams in question will have earned three points against the other two. The current goal difference standings among those teams are as follows:
Team	GD 	+/−
    	2:0	+2
    	1:2	−1
    	0:1	−1
Mali have already played both their matches against Guinea and Ghana, so their records cannot change any longer. If Guinea beat Ghana, Guinea will have a ±0 goal difference at worst, and Ghana will have a +1 goal difference at best.
Thus, the final rankings will only depend on the exact margin of Guinea's victory. If it's one goal, we'll have GHA (+1), GUI (±0), MLI (−1). If the margin is two goals, that will produce GUI (+1), GHA (±0), MLI (−1). A three-goal margin will result in GUI (+2), GHA (−1 and at least 2 goals scored), MLI (−1 and exactly one goal scored). And finally, if the margin is four goals (with rankings not changing any more if it expands further), we'll have GUI (+3), MLI (−1), GHA (−2).
Similarly, if a three-way tie involves Mali, Guinea and Botswana, points and goal differences from the Ghana games will not matter.
The current standings are:
Team	GD 	+/−
    	6:2	+4
    	1:0	+1
    	1:6	−5
The tie is only achievable with a Botswana victory against Mali and a Ghana victory against Guinea - so, again, the three teams concerned will then stay level on head-to-head points. Guinea's records can no longer change, and this time we're only interested in the team that will top the group of three. If Botswana win by a margin of eight goals, they'll get a +3 goal difference which won't be enough for them to overtake Guinea. But if they manage a margin of nine goals, their goal difference will be +4 with at least ten goals scored, and this will place them above Guinea (+4 goal difference and exactly six goals scored). --Theurgist (talk) 20:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the Group D breakdown is accurate and needn't be corrected 

message: I'm going to complete the now-missing lineups at the subarticles for each group, but I observe that the CAF website reports that we're using for sources are bad at indicating things like substitutions or yellow cards, and thus that kind of information we're having in our articles is actually not supported by the respective sources which are cited to support it (EQG vs LBY, NIG vs TUN). Then, how about using some other website as the main source instead, like Soccerway for example? (EQG vs LBY, NIG vs TUN)
Also, how about replacing the two separate maps for the two host countries with a single one for both of them?
Location Map Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.png
They've got this map on the Italian Wikipedia. --Theurgist (talk) 23:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I used soccerway for the lineups and actions. Kante4 (talk) 17:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reports & Map 

message: Shouldn't we clarify where the matches are played in the Football box template? I mean, I think we would have to say in which country, Gabon or Equatorial Guinea, every match takes place apart from the city. --1969 (talk) 15:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't necessary for WC2002 or Euro2012.  There is a map right above. Jlsa (talk) 21:11, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countries distinction 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There are many sections in the introduction of this article that use language such as "dramatic penalty shootout" which are subjective, and generally informal. jan Keso (talk) 16:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informality