Talk:List of tallest buildings in Chicago

message: I'm not making the changes or adding anything; sorry, not enough of a Wikipedian for that. But where are the buildings outside of downtown and the Near North Side? Why is Park Place Tower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Place_Tower) 530.5 feet/161.7m not included? Or Park Tower in Edgewater? Or Regent's Park in Hyde Park (and I'm just using my decades-old native map of the city)?
This is indicative of Wikipedia - that if the idiot savants who contribute don't know about a subject or have some basement-boy reason for not including it, it doesn't exist. And those of us who don't have time don't contribute. Yes, I know this is a mean and unnecessary rant, but at least I'm putting it in talk and not on the main page.
I'll be happy to remove the above if someone can please add these obvious omissions and any others that belong there. In the meantime, I shudder to think of the number of people taking this as a valid source.
-robinbirk (probably putting this in the wrong place, but again, I'm not a wikipedian)
I just made a few changes to the lead paragraphs, but the text still seems jumpy with lots of facts of mixed relevance. I would like to streamline it following this basic outline:
* Paragraph 1: highlights of the skyline, international comparisons
* Paragraph 2: contributions to skyscraper engineering, height records through history
* Paragraph 3: recent & current developments
In Paragraph 2 I propose removing the exact heights of the Home Insurance Building, which are far less relevant than its engineering, and mentioning other early advances like the Monadnock Building and Reliance Building. There should also be a sentence about mid-century developments like tube construction. The two sentences about building booms can be deleted - all they say is that there's been continuous construction except during and after the Great Depression. That's normal for a big city. (In fact there was another major slowdown in the mid-90s.) The geographic concentration of tall buildings can be moved to the first paragraph, which can also be streamlined.
Paragraph 3 can also use re-writing. I am open to leaving the sentence about the Chicago Spire, although it's only one of several failed proposals. The last sentence should focus on construction as there's no way to give exact numbers of planned buildings - many proposals are stale or unpublicized, and nobody announces it when they die out.
As much as possible I've been trying to improve the source references throughout the article. The only publishers doing active research in this area (for Chicago at least) are Phorio and the CTBUH. Skyscraperpage.com is generally good, but I had to change the number of 500-foot buildings because they still publish a few old and inaccurate height figures. Umbugbene (talk) 13:05, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Great.  Thanks for the improvements. — Mudwater (Talk) 03:50, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In paragraph 1, the first sentence states that of the 1264 completed high rises, "107 of which stand taller than 500 feet (152 m)," and then in the second to last sentence of the paragraph the same statistic is stated but with a different number, "the entire city has 105 buildings at least 500 feet (152 m) tall," of which the latter is sourced. I think the repetition of this fact is redundant and only the sourced fact should stay in the article. Chezdan (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to lead section 

message: "tallest building completed in the United States in the 2000s"  does this mean in the first decade of the 21st c. or in the millennium?  If the later, it is out of date; if the former, it should be re-written, no? Kdammers (talk) 05:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of date and / or ambiguous 

message: The silhouette views of Trump and Hancock show the latter as taller (by a little bit), but the numbers given indicate the reverse. 211.225.33.104 (talk) 10:47, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trump and Big John 

message: " 107 of which stand taller than 500 feet (152 m). The tallest building in the city is the 110–story Willis Tower(formerly the Sears Tower), which rises 1,451 feet (442 m) in the Chicago Loop and was completed in 1974.[2][3] Sears Tower was the tallest building in the world from its completion until 1998, when it was overtaken by the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; it remained the tallest building in the United States until May 10, 2013 when it was overtaken by One World Trade Center in New York City.[4] The second-, third- and fourth-tallest buildings in Chicago are the Trump International Hotel & Tower, the Aon Center and the John Hancock Center, respectively. Of the ten tallest buildings in the United States, four are located in Chicago.[5] As of February 2013, the entire city has 105 buildings at least 500 feet (152 m) tall.[6] "  Are two of them exactly 500 feet tall?Kdammers (talk) 20:35, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-contradictory? 

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message: I'm not making the changes or adding anything; sorry, not enough of a Wikipedian for that. But where are the buildings outside of downtown and the Near North Side? Why is Park Place Tower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Place_Tower) 530.5 feet/161.7m not included? Or Park Tower in Edgewater? Or Regent's Park in Hyde Park?
I think I understand someone has given this section a minimum height, but the result leaves the impression that there are no tall buildings outside of the greater Loop and Near North Side, which is misleading. The most encompassing and iconic view of Chicago's skyline is from the lake with all the buildings marching up from South Shore to Edgewater. This article as presented cuts off either end.  Robinbirk (talk • contribs) 15:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I added an Honorable mentions section.  --Pascal666 00:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is mention of buildings outside of downtown? 

message: Do you include topped-out buildings in the main list? Many listed u/c are structurally or architecturally topped-out. In NYC list they include them in the main list with a aclaratory foot note. Triplecaña (talk) 10:38, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legit question 

message: Although 10 South LaSalle no longer meets the cutoff for this list, I thought I would mention that when Chicago Title & Trust moved from 161 North Clark to 10 South LaSalle they bought the naming rights for the new building according to a word of mouth source. However, I can not find an WP:RS documenting this. Please comment at Talk:10_South_LaSalle#Naming_rights.---TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: It would be interesting to have a table of tallest buildings by Community areas in Chicago.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:41, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Community areas in Chicago 

message: I posted a comment at Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_United_States#Height_discrepancies about discrepancies between this list and that list. 13 of the 22 buildings on both lists have discrepant heights.  Please comment there.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  height discrepancies 

message: I posted a comment at Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_United_States#Height_discrepancies about discrepancies between this list and that list. 13 of the 22 buildings on both lists have discrepant heights.  Please comment there.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  height discrepancies 

message: Big John is given as " 8th-tallest building in the United States;" - but at the building's Wikipedia own site, it is given as 9th tallest.  Which is it? Kdammers (talk) 08:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank discrepancies 

message: There is a very odd section in this page on buildings that do not exist. The title, and thus the scope, of this list is and should be the tallest buildings in Chicago, not the tallest imaginary structures that at one point were thought to have maybe been built. Mattximus (talk) 12:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And it doesn't include The Illinois.Kdammers (talk) 17:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on non-buidlings? 

message: Considering the cutoff for the main list is 550 feet, I think it makes little sense for the cutoff for the Under Construction and Proposed sections to be considerably shorter (300 feet). I am inclined to increase the cutoff for these sections to 400 feet in order to decrease the amount of non-notable buildings that will ultimately be deleted off this wiki page when they are completed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chieditor14 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Increased height cutoff for Under Construction/Proposed sections? 

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message: I made some changes using this list. There are now 83 entries on the list of buildings with at least 550 ft. height. This agrees with the reference. However, there are some discrepancies. The Chase Tower (Chicago) is on place 10 in the reference with 265 m height, but other references give 259 m. I did not change entries with such discrepancies. --Kallichore (talk) 21:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference:skyscrapercenter.com 

message: Franklin Center  1,007 (307)
21st-tallest building in the United States; tallest building constructed in Chicago in the 1980s.
Two Prudential Plaza 995 (303); 16th tallest. Kdammers (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank discrepancies 

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message: Hello everybody.  Vista Tower, now named St. Regis Chicago, was moved from the "under construction" section to the main section of the article with this edit on October 26.  But, the building hasn't opened yet.  Shouldn't it be left in the "under construction" section until it's open for occupancy?  Or until there's some other milestone to mark the completion of construction?  That'll be soon, apparently, but I think we're not there yet.  (Pinging  who made this change.)  — Mudwater (Talk) 12:40, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I just moved it because it’s already architecturally topped out, and people are moving into the condos within this year. If you feel differently, you can change it, but that just means we’ll have to do it over again in a few months. Bignerd06 (talk) 14:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion it would be better to put it back in the "under construction" secton until it's somehow declared to be completed or occupants start moving in.  They're saying that that'll be soon, but by WP:FUTURE the article shouldn't predict that or say that it's already happened.  On the other hand, it is architecturally topped out, as you say, so it might depend on the definition of "under construction".  — Mudwater (Talk) 15:09, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Buyers have started moving in to the St. Regis Chicago, according to this story from Crain's Chicago Business. — Mudwater (Talk) 02:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer under construction? 

message: Recently, a comment about Chicago having the best skyline in the country was removed as being an opinion.  https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/best-skylines-in-america-seattle-chicago-and-las-vegas-top-our-list ranks Chicago's skyline as number 2 after Seattle.  https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/12-cities-with-the-most-beautiful-skylines-in-the-united-states.html ranks it 12th.  Stacker placed it second behind NYC (reported in http://www.chicagonow.com/chicagonow-staff-blog/2018/04/best-skylines-united-states/#image/35). A Pittsburgh native (https://scenicstates.com/best-skylines-in-the-us/), puts it second behind his Iron City. https://theluxurytravelexpert.com/2018/08/20/top-10-best-skylines-world/ places it 8th in the world, well behind the other American city on the list, New York, at number 2. A poll ( city data, a black-listed link) landed it third behind America's largest city and the home of Coke. Kdammers (talk) 04:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  skyline 

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message: The graphic showing the tallest buildings has Vista, yet Vista does not appear in the list.  A look at a footnote indicates that Vista must be same as St Regis.  The reader should be helped by making this clear without having to dig through footnotes. Kdammers (talk) 04:18, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vista=St Regis