Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Case/COFS

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== Reason ==
COFS I honestly don't want to offend you, but the first instance I talked about when CSI LA began editing after your block in early April made me suspicious. I held of making this request then, because it could have just been a coincidence. When the situation seemed to repeat itself with your recent block, the chance of coincidence becomes less likely. Anynobody 21:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just found a Wikimail which led me here. That might be really strange now, but I CSI LA came to Wikipedia the first time ever some months ago. And I am just myself, not two people. How would you want to proceed? CSI LA 04:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad you could come by,CSI LA. Well, here we are, Anynobody, no offense taken. What now, brown cow? COFS 04:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I guess I will hear back from the results. BTW, where did I "try to talk [you] out of going forward with the request"? That seems to me like a strange allegation in contrast to your proclaimed good faith. In any case, it is rather funny, especially in the light that I got to know about the person CSI LA in the context of your checkuser request. That was worth the effort already. COFS 23:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks, I understand. COFS 23:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: In theory I agree with you, I am wondering if these are socks of a  but I'd want more evidence. Were there other times something like this happened? (I think I've seen some similar edit summaries by two different editors before). Anynobody 04:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, similar edit summaries by different editors must happen all the time.  But these aren't similar; they're identical, character for character.  Not even so much as an extra space at the end of one, as might happen if COFS copied and pasted Misou's edit summary.  As I said, deliberate obnoxiousness is a possible explanation that's well within character for COFS.  Except that now we know that sockpuppeteering is a possible explanation that's well within character for COFS, too. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry I must've been unclear, when I say "similar edit summaries" I meant identical like you described. I've seen similar cases where two editors will give the same edit summary, but can't remember when or where. (To be clear, I think you're probably right). I was wondering if you remember other occasions that I may have forgotten. (Sorry for any confusion)  Anynobody 19:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, CSI LA's user talk page can no longer be edited by them, due to their abuse of the unblock template, but I found [] exceedingly interesting. It seems to lend credence, in conjunction with their comments about "Blocking a whole range of IPS whose intention is to shut out Scientologists", to it being a shared, required proxy for the Church. Raeft 19:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

text: You have been told to knock off the fishing, Anynobody. Let's leave it at that. --Justanother 02:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Are you really that dense? Reminds me of F451 trying to say that he was not chased off AN/I (see User talk:Justanother#F451, are you "truth-challenged"?) Or are you just doing your "thing"? --Justanother 10:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Are you saying that you did not read this? --Justanother 10:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: If you missed it then I apologize. --Justanother 11:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually I was just objecting to more of your crap. Don't flatter yourself as being some "force of nature". --Justanother 11:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as here all you did is "uncover" the obvious. COFS - think that has anything to do with Church OF Scientology?; CSI LA - think that has anything to do with Church of Scientology International Los Angeles?  What more can these guys do except make their username "Attention I am a Scientology staff member". No evidence that they are sockpuppets or even meatpuppets; just employees of the same firm, something that is as common as dirt here. --Justanother 12:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Checkuser is no "magic bullet" - it is a tool. And tools are best used in the hands of intelligent and discerning people. It is people that "prove" and "disprove" things, not tools. --Justanother 18:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Subsection above will simply be for rote data collection.  Subsection here can be for discussionary purposes and the like...  Smee 02:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very orderly, thank you. Makoshack 03:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But of course.  Smee 03:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

message: Coincident IP usage of selected Scientology-related editors.
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;Evidence confirming above
*Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/COFS
*Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/COFS - Evidence presented by Jpgordon
Cirt (talk) 04:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update: Additional confirmations in COFS checkuser case