Talk:Dollar coin (United States)

message: True or false: The next kind of dollar coin after Sacagawea will enter circulation in 2005. 66.245.7.175 20:07, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: What I'm hearing indicates something to that effect.  A nice rotating design to sucker in the coin collectors, the only market dollar coins seem to have right now.  Why can't they just stop printing the bills? --Alexwcovington 16:32, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: See Save the Greenback. There are entrenched special interests against getting rid of the dollar bill.  — Nathanlarson32767  (Talk) 03:21, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: You mean, all of U.S. currency should be just coins?? 66.245.107.192 23:57, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I could go for that!  :-)  Though, I seriously doubt it'd ever happen.  Nor did it seem to me that Alexcovington was suggesting that, just for the $1 (which is a rather low denomination to have a bill for, IMHO - especially when you consider that, with the exception of the fractional currency of the Civil War era, the $1 has consistently been our smallest bill, despite significant inflation) Nik42 06:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  True or false?? 

message: I want to check for a look to the Presidential act of 2004 that talks about a proposed plan for future dollar coins. 66.32.246.73 01:40, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  I can't find it 

message: I wasn't sure where the best place in the article would be for fiscal impact info, but it seems like an important thing to mention, since that was a major rationale for reintroducing the coin.  — Nathanlarson32767 | (Talk) 07:30, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Fiscal impact

message: We need a section on Trade dollars. Though no longer legal tender (I think -- need to double-check my history there) they are a significant element of U.S. coinage history and definitely deserve a mention on this page. Because they saw fairly little American circulation, they've largely been forgotten by collectors. —chris.lawson (talk) 00:20, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade dollars 

message: Please leave the format of the section headers in the form:
::Coin series (date begun–date discontinued)
It's this way in every single other U.S. coin article because that's the accepted numismatic convention, and consistency in this regard is important.
Thanks.—chris.lawson (talk) 23:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Where should be place the debate about phasing out the paper dollar and replacing it with the dollar coin? This issue is important. 24.54.208.177 01:38, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Headers 

message: I have a couple of supposed silver dollar coins, one has 1996 and the other has 1997 on them.  But according to this article, none were minted between 1981 and 1999.  What gives? --69.234.185.170 20:07, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Are they Silver Eagles? I guess you can say they are technically coins since they have a denomination and you could spend them for a dollar if the unreal happened and Silver dropped below the face value, but they are more like certified buillion tokens. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 23:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They are actual, real US coins, legal tender for $1. However...as we all know, they're worth quite a bit more than $1, and one would be throwing away money to spend them for $1. It'd be kinda cool to see someone's reaction, though. ;) Timber72 05:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1996/1997 silver dollar coins?? 

message: Since the dollar coin has changed in size and composition so much during its history, I think it would be interesting for each older dollar to have its size, weight, and metal composition listed.
Also, does anyone know why the Mogan and Peace dollar had more silver per face value than the halves, quarters, and dimes of the same period (which were all the same as each other)?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.107.63.226 (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Dollar stats 

message: The intro definitely needs rephrasing, but to make "silver dollar" the bold phrase in the first sentence is definitely not how to do it (since this article is "United States dollar coin", not "Silver dollar"). I have my own ideas, but I'd like to see some suggestions here from others before I taint anyone's opinion with my own. ;) --chris.lawson 01:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sloppy of me, I was redirected from Silver dollar and wasn't thinking.  The second paragraph does follow the manual of style, though, in that it says "Sub-Foo is a thing of type Foo, class Foo2."  The current first pararaph doesn't do that.  Happy to do some back and forth on the main page until we get one we like, or do you prefer do do it here? - brenneman(t)(c) 02:15, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: I've never seen a dollar slot machine that uses Sacagaweas (or Susan B. Anthonys or old-school dollar coins, for that matter) - all the casinos I've ever been to seem to use large, heavy gold-colored tokens (see casino token) instead.
However, casinos are the only place I've ever seen half-dollars in circulation, both for the slots and to payoff blackjacks on $5 tables (instead of using $2.50 tokens). Lordsutch 05:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sacagaweas in casinos? 

message: Does anyone agree that it would be useful to have more pictures in this article?  A great many different dollar coins are mentioned, and some of them have links to articles about those coins, but only a few have pictures on this page.  I think this article needs more pictures.  Perhaps if some were copied from the other articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ONUnicorn (talk • contribs) 22:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More pictures needed? 

message: Is there anyway we can edit the infobox to be more informative about the general denomination of the Dollar than being strictly exclusive to the Sackie??--293.xx.xxx.xx 22:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I just think the infobox needs more info about dollars besides the new ones, at least include the other current dollar, the Sacagawea. -YB3   (talk • contribs)  05:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sacagawea dollar has an infobox itself. But I'm guessing that you'd like to see the infobox on this page shows information about both coins. Perhaps I get work something out with the template. But I need input from you. What exactly would you like to see in the box (and we should make a general style guide for coins that have multiple designs that circulate concurrently, like the 50 State Quarters or 2 German mark). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: In the past week I've found that the dollar coin is accepted in parking meters (Atlanta) and in a soda vending machine distributing Coca-Cola products in the ground floor of my building.  I think that it's worth including a sentence stating that vending machines and parking meters now accept the dollar coin, since many people seem to think that the coin cannot be used.  I tried to amend the entry yesterday but I see that it's been deleted, presumably by the person at Wikipedia that is responsible for maintaining this article. 
Thank goodness the parking meter accepted the dollar coin last week, because I certainly couldn't have put paper money in the meter, and I didn't have enough smaller coins to pay for more than 5 - 10 minutes. Try it yourself and see if it works for you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.191.128 (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While there may indeed be some parking meters and vending machines that accept dollar coins, any claim implying that many or most of them accept the coins -- which is precisely what your edit stated -- absolutely needs a citation from a reliable source. Once you (or anyone else) can provide that, I'll be happy to have it returned to the article.--chris.lawson 21:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If a veteran wikipedian writes down what he/she observes from there he/she lives, does that count? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Merely because one metropolitan area in the US has converted some (or even most) of its vending machines to accept dollar coins doesn't mean that the dollar coin is generally accepted in the US. Furthermore, that sure sounds like original research to me. I'd prefer to see a citation of an external source on this.--chris.lawson 07:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Does anybody really claim that most machines don't take them nowadays? In Milwaukee and other cities I visit, at least 80% of machines that sell anything for over 25 cents take them. (The only exception is coin laundries, which are on a quarters-only system.) --Orange Mike 14:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dollar coins in vending machines and parking meters

message: Anybody ever hear the allegation that the real reason we haven't already dumped the $1 bill and printed large quantities of $2s instead, is that a paper supplier in Edward Kennedy's home district was the U.S. Mint's supplier for $1 bills only? --Orange Mike 04:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All the notes are printed on the same paper from the same supplier.  I forget where they are tho.  Joe  I 04:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the paper supplier has been lobbying, then they would print more $2. I think it's because of the irrational psychology of the American public wanting to keep the dollar bill. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paper supplier rumor 

message: can we change "The program will run until at least 2016 with the coin commemorating Ronald Reagan, but may continue longer depending on the longevity of the currently living former presidents, and potentially even the longevity of the current president or presidents yet to be elected." to account for President Ford's death?--Rocketrye12 17:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not necessary.  Ford served before Reagan, so the sentence is still accurate as written. Jwolfe 04:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: the death of ford

message: In an attempt to avoid a revert war, I'd like to discuss here which coin should be shown on the page.  There will be more presidential coins produced, but more Sacagawea coins will be produced than any one presidential design.  With the 1/3 requirement, at least 2 out of every 6 coins produced each year will be Sacagawea, while approximately 1 out of every 6 coins produced will be one of the four presidential designs.  Seems to me that for this reason we should maintain the Sacagawea coin as the representative coin for the page. Jwolfe 21:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is being discusses at Talk:United States dollar#$1 image in infobox --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 21:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Which coin to show

message: Hi all,
I've removed this sentence:
 This was corrected in 2007, when Sacagawea dollars started receiving the same treatments to prevent tarnish that were applied to the presidential dollar coins (see below).
I've done some reading into this and wrote two coin people. One was Mike Wallace, the owner of United States Small Size Dollar Coins and Related Items, a site about the SBA, Sac, and Prexibux. I asked him about the claim. He wrote back:
A friend of mine spoke to a dealer that claims that he can tell the difference between a pre-2007 Sac$ blank and a Presidential Dollar blank because a different rinse was used. 
But I suspect he was saying that because he was trying to sell a golden dollar blank described as a Pres$ for several hundred dollars,,,,,,,,,, as opposed to a Sac$ blank that sells for about $100. Other than this I haven't heard anything about a different rinse being used, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I also wrote to Al Herbert, a member of the ANA Board of Governors. He wrote back:
The only they could change the tarnish would be to change the coin alloy in some way and I haven't seen anything that would confirm a change.
On the basis of these things, I've removed the clause. If anyone has info to the contrary, feel free to reinsert it. - Thanks, Hoshie 06:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  false statement removed (re: tarnish on Sacs/Prexibux) 

message: American Silver Eagle ? I don't know enough about coins to include it. --Rajah 04:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: inserted it in its chronological place; anybody want to put in the picture, too? --Orange Mike 14:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

text: They are, nonetheless, legal tender. Why exclude them? --Orange Mike 14:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: because they are not circulating US coinage. They are "$1" in name ONLY. The US gov't could have as easily called them "$2", or "$5" (as the Canadians did with the maple leaf.) Timber72 09:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Should American Silver Eagles be on this page somewhere?

message: I am cleaning up and fixing errors in the Morgan, Peace, and GSA sections...quit reverting. Thank you.  71.136.185.225 04:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your edits removed content without an explanation and therefore looked suspicious. In the future, please consider placing Template:Inuse on the page to keep this from happening again.-MBK004 03:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixing Morgan, Peace, and GSA sections

message: The final two paragraphs of the section "Early Dollar Coins" are pure nonsense.  I dont know where this fud and cruft comes from.  Its nonsense to imagine that the lower value US coins would be exchanged 1-1 in the caribbian, unless the Caribbian government declared the US dollar to be accepted at that rate.  I am away from my resource texts at the moment, so I can not suggest a concrete reason why the author would belive this to be the case, but I will come back and add to this later.
The final paragraph is essentially rubbish stemming from a complete misunderstanding of the reason for Greshams law, and when it actually fails.  Greshams law fails when legal tender laws do not enforce a nominal value of coinage.  IN absence of legal tender laws, coinage will circulate based on market value, rather than assigned value.  Legal tender laws are a way to assign value to (sort of fiatize) a specie currency. 
A partial correction - which is not perfect but is a thousand times more accurate than what exists in the page - follows:
Once a government sets a fixed value for specie coin, if the fixed trade value of the coin is significantly below its precious metal value, it is simply melted and sold for more as bullion.
The issue is really about how governments screw up the funcion of specie currency by assigning an arbitrary nominal value to the coin.  Once this is done to a specie currency, if the value of the metal itself varies - as it does - an increase of the value of the metal above the nominal specie value causes the coins to be melted for the metal since it is worth more as bullion.
Conversely, if the value of the precious metal drops compared to the nominal value of the coin that holds it, what actually happens is that usually it causes the government to print a whole lot more of the coins, since it is a revenue making exercise.  If the coins have a further market actually bringing money into the country by exchange with caribbian coins of higher metal content, then that is a good thing for the US, but a bad thing for the Caribbian.  It would be up to the Caribbian government to stop it to prevent the drain of their currency by lower value coin.
Sorry, ths has gone on longer than I intended, but I dont have time to edit it down.  I will review this later. ----  Octothorn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.45.156 (talk) 08:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Early Dollar Coins

message: There was no mention of mint marks for the Eisenhower, Susan B Anthony, or Sacagawea dollars, and only the location on the president coins.  What mints made and are making these coins for circulation?
70.187.75.72 (talk) 18:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Broadly speaking, Philadelphia and Denver struck circulation coinage for all four types of dollars, while San Francisco minted coins for the collector market.  San Francisco also minted business strikes of the Susan B. Anthony dollar in 1979 and 1980. Nibios (talk) 15:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mint marks??? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:SacDollar.jpeg

message: A lot needs to be done to update the page. I have given a starter section on the Native American coins, but the rest of the article needs to follow since those are the "new" Sacagawea dollars. We need to update the reverse picture, move the old picture somewhere else and put the "future" tenses to past or present tense. Basically, it needs a rewrite. --Triadian (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2009 Update needed

message: Can someone add this coin and other current coins at the begining list?
--Parker1297 (talk) 16:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sacagawea Dollars? 

message: I recently saw posters in the DC metro touting dollar coins as a way to save the U.S. money (expanded upon at http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/07/23/dollar_coins/).   Should this be part of the article?   Galatians 4:7 (talk) 11:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article you linked to is from 2008. We'd need a more recent item than that. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 15:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have, however, added a bit about the pro- and anti-elimination organizations, both to this article and to the dollar bill article. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 15:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Saving money?

message: Was there no dollar coin minted in the US between the Peace dollar and the Eisenhower dollar?Masternachos (talk) 04:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 01:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1935-1968 

message: I have three Louis Braille dollars that were issued in 2009. Shouldn't these be mentioned here? (Why is there no Wikipedia articles about this coin?) Here are two articles about it at Coin Update: Louis Braille Commemorative Coins and Louis Braille Silver Dollar Sales Ending Today Note: I posted the image at right to three other Wikipedia articles already. Bien amicalement, Charvex (talk) 06:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louis Braille Dollar 

message: The image being used for the obverse of the 2000-2008 Sacagawea dollar is incorrect. They had the date on the obverse next to Sacagawea. --Ibagli (Talk) 22:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Sacagawea dollar image 

message: I have a 2010 silver dollar in front of me. If set it so the obverse is the right way up, then the reverse is upside down, and vice versa. Is this normal? Circulated coins where I live in the UK have the obverse and the reverse in the same orientation. Zargulon (talk) 08:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is normal.--Ibagli (Talk) 17:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure? In Europe this is a classic mark of a counterfeit coin? --2.25.67.169 (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the contents of my pocket, all of my coins appear to be contra-faced, so I do believe that this is indeed normal in the States. Goalbox (talk) 22:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upside down? 

message: Are the links under "Designs" correct?  Both the "Liberty Head (Small Size) 1849–1854" and "Indian Head (Large Size) 1854–1889" link to a page titled "Gold dollar", and that coin shows three designs for the obverse, all showing Liberty.  (Although one is claimed to be Liberty as an Indian princess.)  Elsquared (talk) 03:36, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct links? 

message: I noticed that some of the metal prices here are out of date. Is it even worth keeping them in here considering they change so often? Goalbox (talk) 09:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal prices 

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message: The Latin motto - E PLURIBUS UNUM - is a very old saying and means 'out of many, one'. Why not put that on all US currency? Because that's only 12 letters and besides the Latin sounding scholarly, E PLURIBUS UNUM is 13 letters and like the 13 stripes on the United States Flag is symbolic of the 13 Original United States. 2601:580:109:6470:6C47:F5B6:F71F:E99D (talk) 23:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the right article to explain this.  You might want to try the E Pluribus Unum article itself. - ZLEA T\C 00:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  E PLURIBUS UNUM is 13 Letters and is Symbolic of 13 Original United States 

message: Apparently no dollar coins were minted from 1905 - 1920.  The article should explain why.    This reader would like to know! 2601:281:CC80:5AE0:FC17:F524:E0AE:C441 (talk) 11:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There weren't any minted in that period because the Treasury had all the silver dollars it needed. I'm not sure that's worthy of inclusion in the article. Almostfm (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  1905 - 1920 hiatus? 

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message: At the side in the box we read:
:"United States
Value	1.00 U.S. dollar
Mass	8.100 (2000–) g (0.260 troy oz)
Diameter	26.5 mm (1.043 in)
Thickness	2.00 mm (0.079 in)
Edge	Plain with incised inscriptions
Composition	Copper with manganese brass clad (copper 88.5%, zinc 6%, manganese 3.5%, nickel 2%)
Years of minting	1794–present[1]"
Was the coin described in the first 7 lines minted from 1794 to present???  (FairNPOV (talk) 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you find potentially false or misleading.  Yes, the US Mint struck the first dollar coin in 1794 and production continues to this day, there's nothing false or misleading about it. - ZLEA T\C 19:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Would that box be improved either by prefacing the descriptions with what specific dollar coin is being described or by including a series describing the quite different dollar coins which have been minted or by giving a range, like X mm to Y mm?  Do they all have the same mass, diameter & thickness?  Are not silver eagle dollars in being minted?(FairNPOV (talk) 00:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that there have been a dozen different designs, seven different compositions, and at least five different diameters, adding all that to the infobox would simply make it unwieldy.  I think it's less confusing to leave it as it is-the article is going to mention the differences anyway-the infobox is (at least to me) supposed to give a basic thumbnail of the article, and it does that now. Almostfm (talk) 08:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with the original poster. The infobox implies that ALL United States dollar coins ever minted have been that particular size. As this is not true, we are misleading the reader. This needs to be changed in some way. At least put in a "current size" note.--Khajidha (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   Perhaps we should do what is done at Penny (United States coin).  In that article's infobox we list only the current specs of the coin as well as how long they were since they were last changed. - ZLEA T\C 16:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Even that infobox is misleading. The penny has not always been 19.05 mm (0.75 in) in diameter, as that infobox implies. Any note about size, composition, or design of a coin needs to be specific as to which mintings it is relevant to. --Khajidha (talk) 17:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with FairNPOV and Khajidha on this. Specific information on the physical coins do not apply to a denomination as a whole, but are appropriately expressed on specific subarticles like Sacagawea dollar. CMD (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

text:  But do you agree that the concept would make the infobox less misleading? - ZLEA T\C 17:33, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that that's what I said to do before your reply, the answer is obviously yes. --Khajidha (talk) 17:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this information false or misleading? 

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message: There are an estimated 100 million 1$ coins in circulation and in good condition can be rare 69.118.127.72 (talk) 03:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rarity