Talk:Lost season 2/Archive 1

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Please add new archivals to Archive02. (See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page.) Thank you. Baryonyx 20:05, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

message: In which episode did Hurley give the response to the Snowman joke?  I don't recall that. Also, how do you see the Dharma logo on the shark's fin?  --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what snowman joke you're talking about, but as for the shark, when watching it for the first time I managed to notice there was definitely something on the end of the sharks tail and it swam by the camera. I'm sure people who captured the episode re-watched it to see what it was. -- MacAddct1984 18:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, the snowman thing was the question that Desmond poses to Locke.  An editor added a note claiming that Hurley has given the answer as "Does it smell like carrots to you" in a previous episode.  This is certainly a cogent response to the riddle, but I don't remember it occurring.  I will add the shark tail logo thing back in though. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:35, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think Hurley's ever said that... though the word yet should be applied to that. Desmond is looking for "him," the him being the person who can answer the question. Locke couldn't. Hurley might be able to a few episodes down the line. However, this has not happened YET, and as such is a supposition (probably based on the fact that Hurley's episode is upcoming, and the description involves him doing something hatch related), which doesn't belong on the page, unless someone can provide transcript evidence of the line. Baryonyx 18:42, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only thing I can find by looking at episode transcripts is Hurley asking Jin if he wants to make snowballs while trying to decipher his hand gestures during the building of the raft in episode 18. As far as I can tell, there are no other mentions of jokes, riddles, carrots, or snow that have relevance to this context. Mikkel 19:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hurley Snowman joke 

message: Information about future episodes that is not cited on official websites or other authoritative sources will be removed in accordance with Wikipedia:Verifiability policy.  Please cite this information either in the article or on this talk page. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This right now includes the listing of any flashback speculation about future episodes, episode summaries that don't come from authoritative sources.  BTW, tv.com does not count as an authoritative source as the information is also fan-supplied. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the source for the future episode flashbacks?  Is it just speculation based on the episode titles? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 03:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

text: That's cool, promotional photos released could be considered sources, but where are you getting your descriptive plot synopses?  Also, sign your posts with --~~~~. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd imagine the plot synopses are just TV Guide or TiVo "preview" blurbs that you see when you select Lost in a menu. Looking at TV Guide's listings page, I can confirm the blurb for "...And Found". The one for "Abandoned" is different, but I'm not sure what TV Guide's source is, so I'm not copying it over in case of copyvio. Baryonyx 17:40, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: *Why are these screen captures showing up in the episode summaries? Are they really contributing anything, except, perhaps, copyright violations? Baryonyx 21:46, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screen Captures 

message: Someone stuck this into the Orientation synopsis, which I've excised. It's interesting, but more appropriate to fan sites:
:"The film also includes a shot of the Norwegian town Narvik. "
LeFlyman 03:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The buildings of the Hanso foundation 

message: Please, before you decide to do a major edit first consider whether or not this will help the article itself. Secondly have a discussion with the others before you do so. And of course, if anything like that is indeed decided then be careful to input all the useful data that were written before the edit. We won't need to edit the article again to include information that was lost during the major edit. In general, follow the Wikipedia guidlines on editing an article. Thank you Phoebus 00:32, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to Wikipedia, Phoebus. Having your words edited are a fact of life here. (Kind of like how I refactored your section to its proper place chronologically.) I would suggest you may wish to review the frequently controversial "Be Bold" Policy. I should also note that while your additions to the episode descriptions have been interesting observations, they have tended to fall into the realm of what has been popularly referred to here as "cruft" -- and thus have been subject to removal. There's no requirement that every detail be recorded in the episode synopses -- 'cause then they wouldn't be synopses :) 06:41, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet, some things that were added to the most recent "...and found" episode were edited out, reverting the article back to its original, and less specific, writer's text only. You can say these things were deemed "cruft" or unimportant to the plot by those on this site, and yet, having checked, the official Lost site included these same added details that someone has clearly decided to delete--apparently strictly for the ego of retaining their original text more than anything else. If the details were deemed important enough on the official site, they're probably significant ones that will have impact later.
Added writers for ep. 7 and 8. Source: http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=19554 . It was a newsletter from http://www.oceanic-air.com, an official site. --The monkeyhate 12:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

text: But where are you getting the flashback information for episodes 8 and 9?  Until there is an authoritative source on that, I will continue to remove it from the article. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:35, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: About major edits

message: Oh boy, this tidbit is definitely out of place, but I'm too intrigued to remove it. It would be worthwhile if it commented on what actually does occur when we're supposed to "watch closely." Frag
Now why would it be 'out of place' when something did, in fact, occur?  A.S
:What I understood that line to mean was that if readers had seen the previous episode when Sun buried the bottle, she would have been wearing the ring while in the process of burying it, and would no longer be wearing it (as it fell off) after she was done.  I don't know if that's true, but it should probably be mentioned in the summary of the episode where she lost it.--FearTheFrail 03:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to spoil anything, but the teenager holding the bear with the others (the person who added this presumes it to be Walt) is actually white. There weren't any tanned or African people with the others. --Ultrasound 09:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it was fairly obvious that the "other" with the teddy bear was meant to be Alex Rousseau, Danielle's missing son. I didn't add this to the article since it's speculation, but it's the simplest answer. 64.12.116.5 14:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alex is Rousseau's daughter and would be about 16 1/2 years old now.  The person carrying the teddy bear was too small to be a teenager.Arjay 20:18, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Watch Closely... under "...And Found"

message: Also, did anyone see anything related to the "tailies" having a radio and what that was about? I heard about this but must have missed that part of the show. Thanks to anyone who can fill me in. It's not included in the episode summary.
I seem to recall sometime earlier that Sawyer did a radio transmission, and said "We're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815", and they received a message back saying "We're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815".  This was assumed to be feedback (among many explanations), but it could be that the tail section survivors were responding back, saying that "We're the survivors of flight 815". Tejastheory 04:20, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio 

message: I found a couple of trivial clues that I think should be considered whether or not to be mentioned in the recap. 
During Jin's interview, we see for a fraction of a second Jin's application. I suppose most is it's written in Korean BUT
*his name written in latin characters is Jin-Soon Kwan not Kwon as we all know
*his birthdate is 27/11/1973 (need confirmation if this is indeed a birthdate by someone who knows Korean)
*his email is jinsoo74@yahoo(.com?)
Maybe those should be added to Jin's profile...? Phoebus 12:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  205 - "...And Found" Trivialities 

message: We have to get the titles straight. The list says that episode 8 is called "Cosmos" and episode 9 "Reunion Tour", but if you go down the page you find that episode 8 is called "Collision" and episode 9 "What Kate Did". We have to figure out what the real names are. /The monkeyhate
:IMDB says that 8 is "Old Habits" and 9 is "Lone Wolf".  IMDB is more authoritative than lost-media or TV.com, so I'm using that information. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Users can only submit trivia and goof information, right?  Guest appearance information cannot be edited by users, can it?  --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cosmos or "Collision", "Reunion Tour" or "What Kate did?