Talk:Field goal

message: Could someone give a little history of the football uprights? I know they moved from the goal line to the back of the endzone for example, but have no idea when or why. Rethcir 18:37, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)
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OK, but not for this article.  The goals were moved in the NCAA from the goal line to the end line approximately 1920 IIRC, for the sake of safety -- removing the obstruction.  Offset goal structures had been tried but deemed unsatisfactory.  The remarks can be found in Spalding's Football Guide for the year it was done.
The NFL, which had inherited NCAA rules, moved the goals back to the goal line approximately 1935, to make scoring goals easier, and all of pro football followed suit.  In 1974, copying the WFL, the NFL moved the goals back to the end line, to make scoring goals harder.
The National Federation of State High School Ass'ns inherited NCAA rules after the goals had been moved, so never had them on the goal lines.  Canadian football always had the goals on the goal lines. -- robgood@bestweb.net
When the goal posts were actually set into the ground on the goal line, the defense could effectively use the posts as extra blockers on a goal-line stand.  There was also a famous incident when Sammy Baugh passed from deep in his end zone in a title game, and hit the post, resulting in a safety. But, whatever the safety concern, the NFL moved 'em back because they felt there were too many field goals and not enough touchdown attempts. WHPratt (talk) 04:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Is this section necessary? If it is, at least its first two subsections need a better title. ςפקιДИτς ☺ ☻ 05:24, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Field Goal Lore 

message: While the facts all check, the article, simply put, is poorly written. I saw quite a few run-ons, and overall it's just difficult to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.209.192 (talk • contribs) 
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replies: text: That makes no sense at all.  There is no rule that states how far back the kicker must stand.  Seven yards seems to be the minimum setback to get the kick away, but certainly that evolved from practice. WHPratt (talk) 04:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: 65 yard field goal.. drop kick? seems impossible.
is there any other proof of this?
:In 1892?  Who knows what the field conditions, or the wind situation, or the goal posts were under the standards of that age.  The ball was probably a lot rounder than it is now, and that could have helped. WHPratt (talk) 16:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  proof of J.P Ross' kick? 

message: I'd like to propose that this page be split into three others (Field goal (rugby), Field goal (gridiron football), and Field goal (basketball)), with this page turned into a disambig. Any objections or comments? hateless 22:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I got bold and did it. I'll also copy this talk page to Talk:Field goal (gridiron football), since the discussion here is exclusively to the north american variety. hateless 03:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: I agree with the split, but I disagree with the name, since "gridiron football" is not a term generally used in North America. Since the term "field goal" is not used in association football (soccer), I think it would be unambiguous to title the page "Field goal (football)." We could also say "Field goal (American and Canadian football)". -- Mwalcoff 00:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll concur. I admit I haven't given much thought over the name, since my knowledge of football/soccer is slim. Seems other pages use "football" as a disambiguator instead of "American and Canadian football" so I think that's finehateless 22:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The name of this page

message: I know this doesn't seem important, but in a 2006 game between Clemson and Wake Forest, Wake Forest was preparing to kick a field goal against the wind with the clock running at the end of the 3rd quarter, about to take a 20-3 lead. Instead, they elected to wait until the start of the 4th and kick into the wind, but a botched snap picked up by Wake Forest quarterback Riley Skinner allowed Clemson defensive end Gaines Adams to knock the ball out of Skinner's hands and run it down the field to spark what became a 24-point comeback. The final score was Clemson 27, Wake Forest 17. It was nominated for ESPN's "Game Changing Performance" play. Zchris87v 00:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: College Football Attempts?

message: While mentioned a few times in the article there is no explanation about the drop-kick field goal rules or if they are even still in the rulebook.  (Which is why I came to the page to look for).  If there is someone knowledgable about the topic this seems to me to be something that should be included.  Or at least a link to another page about them.Dcpirahna 19:38, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drop Kicks

message: Shouldn't there be something in the strategy section about faked and botched field goals (e.g. lining up as if to kick a fg, but instead, playing for the first down or goal)?
I'm not really enough of an expert to do it myself...  --Register allocation 17:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing from strategy section: faked/botched attempts 

message: * From http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1231
The distance of a field goal is the exact amount of yards from where the ball is kicked to where the crossbar is on the goalpost. Most often, the distance is 17 yards more than the yardline where the ball is snapped from because the end zone is 10 yards, and most kickers kick the ball from 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
This article would benefit from an explanation of the measurement rules for all the leagues covered. MaxEnt 04:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plus ten for my tiny heiny 

message: I've taken the liberty of being bold and removing three paragraphs that read like a how-to manual, which is not what Wikipedia is trying to be.  If anyone can refactor the content into something more encyclopedic, please feel free to do so.  RJaguar3 | u | t 00:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing "how to" section in "How field goals are kicked" 

message: In the NFL, missed field goals attempted from the 40-yard line or closer result in the opposing team taking possession at the 20-yard line. Missed field goals attempted from beyond the 20-yard line result in the opposing team taking possession at the spot of the kick. Until 1994, the opposing team would take position at the line of scrimmage, unless the kick was made from inside the 20.
If a field goal is "attempted from the 40 yard line or closer"  it would also encompass a significant number "attempted from beyond the 20-yardline."
Clarification is a must.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.136.225 (talk) 03:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missed and blocked field goals 

message: It says the record for High School is 84.5 yards. This doesn't seem remotely possible. Especially since the longest for pros and college is no longer than 70. I think it's a typo.
:And now there's one that says the longest high school field goal is 92 yard. I think it's more than a typo. I think its a hoax.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.222.145 (talk) 22:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, it's a complete hoax. Canton played Franklin on October 2, 2009, all right, but lost the game 14-21. Five touchdowns were scored in the game.  There were no field goals.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.28.228.202 (talk) 08:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of those are rubbish. Googling any of the reference-less entries there only brings up references to this Wikipedia list, here and on other sites. That would, however leave just three entries, making for a very short 'list'. ReelExterminator (talk) 21:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Went ahead and deleted the unsourced records ReelExterminator (talk) 22:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  High School Records 

message: football could imply soccer, American football would be distinct.--Levineps (talk) 01:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? I was unaware there was a field goal in soccer. That should probably be mentioned on this article. On the other hand, if there is no field goal in soccer, then no further dismbiguation is necessary anyway. DoubleBlue (talk) 01:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Rugby league and rugby union are codes of football that have field goals. Some disambiguation would be preferable, in my opinion. I note this page was previously at Field goal (gridiron football). LunarLander // talk // 18:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  page should be [[Field goal (American football)]] 

message: I see these abbrevs in stats of footballers, eg., Ryan Succop. Please add the corresponding meanings into the XP/XPM/XPA disambig pages, since they are not commonly known beyond US.Mukadderat (talk) 17:49, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  XP/XPM/XPA 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Hanson - his career longest is 62 yards, and he regularly nails 50+ yd attempts. Does anybody know what game he kicked the 62 yarder? It's not on the "Longest in the NFL list"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.173.42 (talk) 19:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Hanson 

message: I seem to remember reading once that the actual text of the rule (NFL anyway) is slightly more complicated than just having the ball clear the crossbar and pass inside the uprights.  It also had to touch something behind the goal line, or something like that.
Strange, but I guess that could come into play if a kick got blown back after going through.
Anybody have the exact wording? WHPratt (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Rule 

message: Being a know-nothing European, I tried to find out what happens after a field goal is scored, in order to understand the odd (for me) strategy decisions both teams took during that last touchdown at last night's Super Bowl. I understand that the Giants scoring a field goal in that situation would've somehow been worse for the Patriots, and because of this the Patriots did allow the touch down to happen while the Giants seemingly tried not to score and rather to attempt a short-distance field goal at the next down. Presumably this was because what happens after a field goal is somehow something other than a kick-off by the scoring team from their own 35 yard line (do I get that right?) as it is in case of a touchdown. You might want to expand the article to answer that question... -- 77.21.99.8 (talk) 23:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a kickoff after a successful field goal, same as a touchdown. Commentators might have been referring to strategy of scoring slower to not leave any time left for the opponent, unrelated to what takes place after a FG or TD.—Bagumba (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happens after a successful field goal? 

message: From where are field goal distances (and hence records) measured, from the line of scrimmage or from the point from which the ball is actually kicked? That information is strangley illusive.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.250.112.205 (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Records/Measurement

message: I suspect this is a broader issue within Wikipedia when section titles are reused (both divs have an id of NFL).
76.28.196.44 (talk) 03:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Longest field goal records > NFL" in the index links to "Missed field goals > NFL" section 

message: I realize this just happened today, so it probably hasn't gone through many edits or been reviewed, but can someone please reword/rewrite the following lines:
"The longest field goal attempt ever in an NFL game was 70 yards by Ali Haji Shiek of the Giants in a 1983 game. The longest field goal that was good was by Matt Prater on December 8, 2013.Prater kicked it straight into the post as the clock ticked down to zero.The weather was 13°F when prater kicked it. The kick was at mile high stadium with snow all over the stadium."
I'm sorry, but it reads terribly. You'd think it was typed by a kid. Dusty8807 (talk) 05:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Longest Field Goal Records > Grammar, sentence structure. 

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message: Unless being at 7,200' makes it too easy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.250.211.66 (talk) 22:43, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Once It's Official, Somebody Should Add Gostowski's 62-yarder Kicked A Minute Ago