Talk:Morgan horse/Archive 1

message: Hi. I'm not sure why the new image is a better image than the one that was there before. It doesn't show the horse as well, contains extra text that obscures the image, and it's unclear where it comes from (did you make it? did it come from someplace else?). In general I'd like to suggest that the previous image was better suited to an encylopedia style format. Jessamyn 02:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image? 

message: Hi, given the literally 1000s of Morgan Horse farms, it is inappropriate to link any individual farms.
: I wold tend to agree, it's much simpler to link to professional organizations and let them link to individual farms. There is one breeder who has replaced the article image with one essentially anouncing a new colt she has for sale which I removed and replaced with a more generic (though admittedly not as catching) image. I'll try to do some revisions of the Extended links section in the future. Jessamyn (talk) 16:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to individual farms are inappropriate 

message: Hi there,
I am the breeder who added the new picture. We need something more attractive than what is there now, for sure! My posting the picture was an attempt at that. I do not care if all references to my farm are removed from the picture- just please get something more attractive up here to represent our breed! Thanks, mimimorgan
: hi mimimorgan, I think that would be a great idea. If you have any more casual photos around, I think they'd be appropriate. I'll look through some sources I have here as well. i agree, this picture isn't the best. Jessamyn (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need a better picture! 

message: ...minus the photo credit to me or the horse's names in the jpg info. I am interested how you knew that the colt was for sale at all since that info was not included with the original picture info? There was no link to my farm website or anything.
: There is a link to your farm website in the External links section. The image you included is the main image on your website . I've resized the image for now, but will try to find an image that does not represent a particular breeder. Even though I see there is no obvious link, it's still a less than perfect way of solving the image problem and the lossiness of the picture makes it not the best choice for a long term illustration for the article since it doesn't reproduce well at high resolution. Jessamyn (talk) 11:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if this comment is referring to my changes or the re-adding of the photo originally. I'm trying to make the article encyclopedic,  have a good illustration of the breed, and a photo that reproduces well at large sizes. I added some topical information to the article at one time, but nothing besides some factual local information. I usually work on Vermont topics for Wikipedia. It's important that Wikipedia articles not be promotional vehicles for specific breeders or owners and this was my concern with the image that was being used as it was originally captioned. There was a great image used previously, another mother and foal image, but it was removed because of possible copyright violations. You can sign your comments using four tildes like this ~~~~ and if you're logged in it will sign your name after your comment. If you start your response with a colon, it will indent your reply so it is more obvious who or what you are replying to. Jessamyn (talk) 01:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added the picture back 

message: It may be because of dwindling brain cells, but my memory suggests that the Morgan breed is known for their unflappable spirit, a trait that (along with their light draft traits) makes them ideal for police horses used in crowd control. (Or maybe that's just what I think because my part-Morgan was spirited yet unflappable in the extreme.)  If there are such characteristics recorded in citable materials it would be useful information to add to the article.  One of my old books notes such characteristics as: great strength, unsurpassed endurance, indomitable spirit, patient, trustworthy, of eager movement in harness.... It also mentions that they were the cavalry mount of choice for many fine soldiers, which suggests to me that they probably didn't spook easily. P0M 06:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breed characteristics 

message: I was bold and created a new article, titled Figure (horse) and moved most of the Justin Morgan material into it, leaving a summary.  Also noted that there is an article on Justin Morgan (the person) that wasn't linked in this article.  So added some links.  Also created a new category "Category:Morgan horses" should there be suitable articles to put there.  Montanabw(talk) 18:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justin Morgan and Figure