Talk:Atlantis Paradise Island

message: Shouldn't the title be Atlantis Resort and Casino not Atlantis Paradise Island? Veritas e Aequitas (talk) 15:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide a source which we could use to reference it? --Elonka 20:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The new resort is just a sister resort. In the Disneyland article, they don't mention that Orlando's Magic Kingdom was modeled after the park, do they? It's unnecessary for now. Leo-Roy! review/gb 00:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atlantis the Palms 

message: Some pictures would REALLY help this article. Descriptions are great and all, but this place has to be seen.
--I am Kiwi 00:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures? 

message: Dear editor from Quebec with IP 70.81.136.211 - 
No one is allowed to use Wiki as a sales promotion tool as you have seemingly done this week in the Atlantis Paradise Island article.   The words, the ones I edited out earlier this week, sounded like they came off a condo marketing sales brochure for the new island complex being built. Such NPOV posting is not allowed.  Wikipedia articles are to be encyclopedic in nature - [unbiased]] and objective with a neutrally expressed point of view.  
If you continue to post such Wikipedia:NPOV material, your editing priveleges could be disrupted. Here's a better explanation of Wikipedia policy on Spam -> 
Wikipedia is not an advertising service. Promotional articles about yourself, your friends, your company or products; or articles created as part of a marketing or promotional campaign, may be deleted in accordance with our deletion policies. For more information, see Wikipedia:Spam.  -I am Kiwi 14:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SPAM

message: Major editing with many additons and more categories.  I would ask everyone to look it over and give your response here and we can discuss what it lacks and WHICH NAME SHOULD THIS TOPIC BE CALLED IF WE MERGE.  Kiwi--Green in learning mode 05:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TIME TO LOOK IT OVER

message: I have resized the photo and used it to replace another photo, also taken from the Royal Towers.   I think it looks terrific now!! Thanks! Have any more?? :) --A green Kiwi in learning mode 23:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see someone disliked just how much I had enlarged two of the photos, so I have compromised.   The lobby photo is again large enough to show the mosaic on the wall, et al -- the stuff that turns if from a space with a high ceiling into something beautiful and memorable.   The panaramic photo of irregular shape has again been enlarged - tho not as large as is really needed.   But at least now one can see a bit of DETAIL -- the stuff that keeps the photo from being a bit more than just blobs of color and vague meaningless shapes.   If the photos are meaningless to an article, they should be removed.   Look at articles with HUGE photos -- like Narcissism -- and you will see what I mean.   It is not a sin to have photos large enough to display necessary detail. - Kiwi 03:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo Sizing

message: I have discovered that there is no resort called "Atlantis Paradise Island".  You do sometimes see the resort demonstrate its location as Atlantis, Paradise Island, Bahamas.   Paradise Island is its physical location, part of its address, but it is clear that the title of this article must be changed.   Possibilities are nearly endless, but "Atlantis (Paradise Island - Bahamas)" seems a good bet.  Discussion?   Feedback?   --A green Kiwi in learning mode 23:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thinking about article title

message: I am on a roll uploading images to the commons in the past few days, after my trip to San Francisco and Monterey.  I thought perhaps I'll upload some images of Atlantis from a few years back.  It seems that this article can really use more images.  I am doing that right now. Fred Hsu 21:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More images, especially of the excellent aquarium and fishes

message: I ran across the new Cove Atlantis website and took some images of what the new facilities will look like. I will try to add a few in the Atlantis article in Cove Atlantis section. (note that these are not real photos but 3D made)
Uploaded images:
* Azure_1.PNG
* Azure_2.PNG
* Deluxe_1.PNG
* Deluxe_2.PNG
* Penthouse_1.PNG
* Presidential_1.PNG
* Sapphire_1.PNG
* Atlantis_suite_1.PNG
* Atlantis_suite_2.PNG
Feel free to add them to the article. Pvd21 13:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Cove Atlantis photos 

message: While editing the "Aquaventure" section, I found this sentence: "Set to open means riders never have to leave their tubes to go on slides, because water jets and escalators propel them to the top." I deleted it because its wording was unclear, but if anyone could explain in simple terms what this does mean, we can add it back to the article. --DearPrudence 02:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aquaventure: "Water jets and escalators propel them to the top" - What does this mean? 

message: HURRAY and a Huge Thank You, Eiyuu Kou
I had no idea such banners were available and I have been (at first) fighting this myself, then repeatedly posting here, hoping to get some interest and consensus that this article was so commercial, SO advertisement, that it purely reeked of "parent company employee-created"
Originally, it was being repeatedly used to promote condo purchases within the resort. Ever since I wrote and called the company PR department, asking for some photos they would be willing to allow to go under the GNU designation, this article has received even heavier attention (tho the photos ARE nice - if rather excessive of theme park stuff). 
I used to edit out the "world famous chef" and other stuff, but it always showed back up again.   If there was more than me to watch out for this one, it would be great.  I don't know who took out all the categories this was linked to - and question if that was appropriate or not as I missed that totally - I don't think it was mentioned in the comment space..
Kiwi 22:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: HURRAY for "this sounds like advertisement" banners

message: Hi Kiwi et al! I wikisurfed my way here basically by accident, and have found myself in complete agreement with some of the comments above. Violations of WP:SOAP are a particular irritation of mine (mostly up to now found in articles about schools - my favourite here - which even prompted me to create a userbox for my own amusement). Anyway, I'll add this article to my watchlist, and if you like when I've got some free time I'd be happy to chip in with copyediting to try to water down the spam...
As for the article title/merger proposals, whilst important they are perhaps secondary to the fact that there is only one reference in the whole article. I'm sure this is nothing you weren't already aware of, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we can only include stuff that has been written about elsewhere by a respected (ideally neutral, balanced and notable) source; unfortunately this cannot include stuff produced by or for the resort. What we write must be verifiable - this does not mean that we need to back up every sentence, but any facts given should be able to be checked. The lack of references and encyclopedic tone would be seen as justification by some editors to severely cut or even delete the article, although I think it's about a fairly notable subject so that would be rather harsh. To avoid this though, it would be great to get some referenced material in there. As a side benefit, we can lose much of the advertising under this policy too ;)
Re heavy editing by people pushing advertising, have you considered requesting admin intervention to block the IPs for violating WP:SPAM? I can point you in the right direction if you're not sure what to do.
Any comments, get in touch ;) EyeSereneTALK 15:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertising

message: I have hacked the Marina Village Restaurants section about a bit, removing the more blatant copyright vios (see here and here for the original text). I'm assuming that these travel agencies didn't crib the text from this section in the first place... ;) To check for this sort of thing, google a phrase from the article (enclosing the phrase in quotes does a search for exact matches) & see what comes up. EyeSereneTALK 10:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright violation?

message: To add some balance to this article, what is the consensus about using some reviews (both positive and negative)? I'm not a huge fan of this personally, because it's basically quoting opinions, but this article needs to get away from the travel-brochure POV, and this might be one way to do it. One thing the article does not really do is mention how expensive the resort is ("2 take out ham sandwiches, 2 cokes, and 2 very small bags of Doritos - $37" ). Any ideas? EyeSereneTALK 18:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think a wikipedia article should contain opinion in the main article.  Can you find another article on resort centers which does?  But I think it makes sense to mention how expensive things are to give readers some perspective. Fred Hsu 03:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree... although, given that most of the article as it currently stands is unsourced, a few sourced statements might be an improvement ;). I don't want to come across as deletionist, but I think that until it begins to comply with both WP:NOTE and WP:VERIFY (not to mention WP:SOAP), the entire article is on rather shaky ground. EyeSereneTALK 09:45, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Balance

message: It says "click here to view mosaic and hieroglyphics" but i fail to find any hieroglyphics in that picture...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.178.57.188 (talk) 07:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the lobby/mosaic image 

message: Can somebody who knows add an ownership section?  I thought it was owned by Sol Kerzner, but then I read this article in today's New York Post:
http://nypost.com/2014/10/01/winner-of-revel-auction-plans-to-re-open-bankrupt-ac-casino/
and it seems to indicate that it is owned by the Canadian real estate outfit Brookfield Asset Management.
Thanks in advance to anybody who knows and can add this information/section to the article.Betathetapi545 (talk) 09:13, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ownership??? 

message: I represent the company so I won't make the change myself. Official website has changed to http://www.atlantisbahamas.com/ VerbInteractive (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update the official website link  

message: I just wanted to let you know that I added a section about the golf course at the Atlantis Paradise Island. Feel free to edit edit and add onto the section. --Aidan721 (talk) 21:39, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golf Section 

message: I don't know the story, but "[Trump] did not inform Resort stockholders that he was to be paid substantial fees, causing the company's stock to become nearly worthless before Trump took the company private." seems pretty blatantly POV.  I'm going to rewrite that line... If nothing else, it either has an owner or owners ("stockholders"), so there's simply no way the owners didn't know that one owner had magically arranged for himself to be paid as an employee and enough to bankrupt the company.  That is not only impossible, but prison time, even in the Bahamas! We're not talking common-stock holders either.  It's almost the kind of thing where the fiduciary due diligence violations alone would put half those stockholders in prison.  So whatever the story is, that isn't it.  Anyone know and can tell us without the POV?--Mrcolj (talk) 23:07, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trump NPOV 

message: In the history section toward the end, there is no reference cited for “ As of July 2014, the property is owned and operated by Brookfield Hospitality. The new ownership has not kept up the property and many of the attractions are in need of repair. The property looks run-down, dirty, and many guests complain of the automatic added gratuity and VAT charge. The employees no longer receive the same benefits and do not receive the gratuity or VAT. ” 104.166.41.60 (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of citation