Talk:Jeannette Rankin

message: Somebody added a line "I like men" and appears to have changed the number of votes that Rankin cast. I don't know the correct number, so I'm leaving that unchanged, but the nonsense is out! John Elder 08:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Although she had been a firm advocate for individual rights and peace, she supported alcohol prohibition, which is inconsistent with civil liberties. It's not written on this article but it is true. Anyone knows more about the reasons? WooyiTalk, Editor review 20:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Many people in the late 19th century and first two decades of the 20th century thought that an anti-alcohol position was for women's well-being... AnonMoos (talk) 09:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prohibition 

message: I removed the section in the introduction stating she was a Republican.  According to "Jeannette Rankin America's conscience" by Norma Smith, a biography published by the Montana Historical Society Press Rankin herself stated "I was never a Republican. I ran on the Republican ticket"(pg. 99).  With this quote from Rankin herself I do not think it is proper to classify her as a Republican.  However it is most certainly true that she ran on the Republican ticket and was elected as a Republican from Montana.Bored college student 00:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is at least worth a footnote. The quote is also mentioned on page 13.  Knope7 (talk) 04:15, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Republican 

message: The section (right near the top) entitled "Congressional Career" began with the paragraph:
:"of Representatives]] as a Republican from Montana, becoming the first female member of Congress. The Nineteenth Amendment (which gave women the right to vote everywhere in the United States) was not ratified until 1920; therefore, during Rankin's first term in Congress (1917-1919), many women throughout the country did not have the right to vote, though they did in her home state of Montana."
I've removed it, not because of the content, but because of the box it created that shot almost all those words off the edge of the screen.  Please correct the design before returning the text to the article.  Thank you.    jg (talk) 08:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but the answer to layout problems on Wikipedia is not to remove valid well-written text.  There might not even be a layout problem for somebody who was viewing the article with a different browser and/or under a different "skin".  In any case, you seem to have been editing a vandalized version of the article (see edit history). AnonMoos (talk) 09:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congressional Career 

message: After her stance against war in 1941, did Rankin suggest what Roosevelt should have done following Pearl Harbor?   The article doesn't say, and apparently it's not addressed anywhere else.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.6.222 (talk) 17:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless reliable sources have discussed it, Wikipedia has nothing to say. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:06, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: What was Rankin's option?

message: The paragraphs are too long and dense and need to be broken up to improve readability
Jean Friedberg (talk) 11:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: First paragraph: "she was elected statewide in Montana in 1916 and again in 1940".
Second paragraph: "she was first elected by her home state of Montana in 1916, and then again in 1941".
--Morinox (talk) 15:07, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  1940 or 1941? 

message: There has been chat over at my talk page about working on this article to bring it up to GA status.  To that end  posted this new resource.  Anyone else who wants to add more resource/research material, please do so!  Montanabw(talk) 18:05, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going through a couple of relatively new books at present.  I've worked on this article, on & off, for some time, & will continue to do so. Should be ready for GA review fairly soon, methinks. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 23:18, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article improvement drive 

message: (Moved from my talkpage). Montanabw(talk) 02:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "in 1917" is not a caption.  I shortened mine a bit to "Rankin in 1917" to make it shorter but still a proper caption.   As for the left-justification under level 3 header, I have sympathy for your views, and WP:MOSIM no longer prohibits it, but it is still discouraged as it can give odd results in some screen readers and allegedly creates WP:ACCESS problems. the old version of the MOS stated "Do not place left-aligned images directly below a subsection-level heading (=== or lower), as this sometimes disconnects the heading from the text that follows it. This can often be avoided by shifting left-aligned images down a paragraph or two."   I've been smacked for doing it a few times, even now.  Relevant discussion is old, but the issue is discussed here and previously here, and here. It's a no-win, IMHO, so I just avoid it.  But if you really want the left-justified image under the level three heading, I won't edit-war over it because it look fine in my browser, I'm just tired of arguing about it. Montanabw(talk) 02:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I'm more confused, because I moved the photo to right justification, precisely because it was sitting on the left under the header, and you reverted it back to the left.  Also, I was speaking about that photo's caption, not the one in the box.  In any case, I will move the photo back to the right, along with another one that is also left-justified under a heading.  What we had here, I suppose, was a failure to communicate. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 13:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeannette Rankin 

message: Hi to all who have been regularly editing this article, with a ping to  and  as well.  I mentioned either here or on someone's talk that this article, of significance to WikiProject Montana, is a good candidate for GA and maybe even FA. I see a couple areas that need to be fleshed out, and some need for cleanup on a few citations (one links to an 8-page work, needs more specificity.  Any thoughts or comments?  Montanabw(talk) 00:04, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's worthwhile.  Do you need her American National Biography article, or can you get it online?  I'm available once I finish up current work, this is a very worthy project.  Rankin is a common trivia answer, but people in fact don't know much about her.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it available online?  URL?? I'll see...  Montanabw(talk) 00:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Won't even touch a kiddie book.  I'll send you the ANB, I was just wondering what online resources you have access to through your university connection so I know what to send you and what you can send me. I really won't be focusing on this until Mason is done and that's still several days work (bio is done in a rough form, but there's some hard work to be done on lede, views, and legacy).--Wehwalt (talk) 00:57, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA push? 

message: Hi , I see you reverted my edit on this article in which I added the date of Rankin's election. I added this information as I have also added this event to the relevant "on this day" page November 9 in the interests of promoting this significant piece of American history. If you would like to re-word the way the date is included in this article, please feel free, however it would be preferable to have the date so that the event can be listed as mentioned. Thanks. MurielMary (talk) 20:27, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha.  Thank you for the explanation, MurielMary.  I've added it back. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 21:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of election 

message: Apparently Ms Rankin's 1st term in Congress was in 1916 and a Woman's right to vote was not ratified until 1920.  How is it possible for someone prohibited from voting to run for office and to be elected?  Further, if women can't vote, then how can she vote on congressional matters?
These are topics that should be covered in this article.
(Thank you.)
----  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.206.231 (talk) 04:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: States set the qualifications for voting, as the Constitution says that the qualification for people to vote for the House of Representatives is the qualification needed to vote for the more numerous branch of the state legislature, and Montana had allowed women to vote as of 1914. The only limits on running for the House are in the Constitution, that you have to be 25, a citizen of the state you want to represent, and resident in the US I think for 7 years. I believe voting in the House of Representatives is subject only to the House's rules.  I would tend to agree, it should be at least a footnote, at least on the Montana point.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:29, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The article does already say that Montana allowed women to vote as of 1914. Some detail as to Rankin's reception as the first Congresswoman might be helpful, as I would assume there was some resistance and then push back against the resistance. Knope7 (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   is essentially correct; while woman may not have been able to vote in federal elections until 1920, they had been organizing politically for years and had the right to vote in Montana before they had the vote nationally. Beyond that, neither the Constitution nor the House rules prohibited women. I'd favor explaining this, but we need solid sources, may have to ping  as to what archival material on Rankin exists in terms of whether their was any public opposition to seating her once she was elected; I don't recall hearing of any, but I'm not a Rankin scholar.  Montanabw(talk) 00:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to be a common misconception. During the recent election night coverage, Chris Matthews alleged she was elected to an office she could not vote for herself for.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:21, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

text: The article already tracks (briefly) the history of universal suffrage in Montana, and does explain that by the time Rankin was elected, women had been granted some form of voting rights in about 40 states -- and that Rankin introduced the legislation that eventually became the 19th Amendment.  I have not found any evidence in RS regarding resistance to her taking office, and I doubt that there was any, since she was duly elected by the citizens of Montana; but if anyone knows of anything, with RS support, please share. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 02:48, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Woman Elected to Congress BEFORE Women Had the Right to Vote ?!? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: She was highlighted on One American News (OANn) network today.  FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:35, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current recognition 

message: I've started to try to get this article to Good Article status. So far, I've added some citations and a few details. Anyone interested is more than welcome to join me. I would be happy to discuss co-nominating or any sort of collaboration. I'm also a member of Women in Green, which has a goal of nominating 20 articles on suffragists for GA status in 2019. This article is a great target for that project because other editors have already done some stellar work improving it. Knope7 (talk) 02:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Good Article push 2019 

message: Senators were elected by the popular vote after the 17th amendment had been ratified. I believe the section where she detailed how she intended to run in the Senate because of the State Legislature is wrong as State Legislatures no longer decided Senate Elections. Dogblock (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're correct. I have removed that sentence. Knope7 (talk) 01:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible mistake 

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