Talk:Democratic transhumanism

message: I don't think there are enough people who openly identifying themselves as democratic transhumanists to be create a section called People active in movement or People associated with movement. However, if this changes a better title would be List of prominent democratic transhumanists --Loremaster 23:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your position and am inclined to agree.  I personally don't feel that this individual person should be identified on this page at all.  However, I have been told that his name is continually readded, so I just wanted to get him out of the beginning portion of the article. --Danaman5 23:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was the one who re-added this individual's name on some occasions. From what I am told, he works closely with James Hughes and is probably the only person, other than Hughes, who publicly identifies himself as a democratic transhumanist. Why don't you feel he should be identified on this page at all? --Loremaster 16:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, I apologize for seeming to work against your reverts of my edits a moment ago.  We simply happened to be editing at the same time. --Danaman5 23:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, now that I think about it, there are a few people who consider themselves democratic transhumanists. I will re-add this section with a new title. --Loremaster 16:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just thought it seemed like vanity if only one person was identified on the page.  However, the page looks really great with this new list of Democratic Transhumanists.  Nice job. --Danaman5 18:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I doubt it, I can't know whether vanity was the initial reason why this person was identified on the page. However, before I created the new list of democratic transhumanists, I think it would have been odd to not include any mention of this person on this page when he was the only person other than James Hughes to publicly identify himself as a democratic transhumanist. --Loremaster 15:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About the new section

message: According to a Wikipedia rule of thumb: 1) if something is in See also, try to incorporate it into main body 2) if something is in main body, it should not be in See also and therefore 3) good articles have no See also sections. --Loremaster 13:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, this is a good argument for keeping "Transhumanism" out of "See also", but it remains true that the "Posthumanism" wiki article is about a subject irrelevant to democratic transhumanism--as the note at the top says, This article concerns the European philosophical critique of humanism. The term posthumanism is also used as a synonym for transhumanism, especially in the United States. The wiki article is about the first meaning, while only the second meaning is relevant to Democratic Transhumanism. Second, there was no reason to remove "Post-scarcity", since it is relevant to the article but is not mentioned in the body of the article itself. Hypnosifl 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you take the time to read James Hughes's entire body of work, you would discover that posthumanism as a philosophical critique of humanism is one of his influences. Regardless, I've embedded internal links to both posthumanism and post scarcity into the article. --Loremaster 20:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you point to where in his body of work he refers to posthumanism in the sense of the European philosophical critique of humanism that's discussed in the wiki article? I have read his book Citizen Cyborg, and checking back over the index, it doesn't mention "posthumanism", and all the references to "posthuman" are about future transhuman beings, not the philosophical critique. Also, of the "notable posthumanists" in the wiki article, the only one mentioned in the book is Donna Haraway, and she's only discussed in the context of her ideas about feminism and cyborgs. Hypnosifl 02:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. Although he considers himself a postmodernist, Hughes' thought was not influenced by continental philosophy. I've removed the link to posthumanism in the article. --Loremaster 23:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About See also

message: The criticism section is a stub which I am currently working to expand (as soon as I find the time to summarize the content of the sources) so there is no need to complain. --Loremaster (talk) 18:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section 

message: Is this article a joke? Seriously nanosocialism? Are you fucking insane?
Almost no transhumanists are socialists. They are libertarians.
# This talk page is only for discussing improvements to the Democratic transhumanism article not criticizing the actual ideas the article is about.
# I suggest you read James Hughes' essay The Politics of Transhumanism before jumping to conclusions.
# Remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). 
--Loremaster (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, except that libertarians are vile, ugly, nasty things. So of course there are transhumanists who reject such a sick mindset. 116.49.33.125 (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joke 

message: "Post-Darwinian leftism" mentioned in the arcticle - what is that? Any sources? This article seems to be the only place where such a thing is mentioned, at least according to (my, since its results are now personalized...) Google. Litawor (talk) 11:27, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Post-Darwinian leftism" is a term used by James Hughes to describe the position articulated by Peter Singer in his book a A Darwinian Left. --Loremaster (talk) 01:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-Darwinian leftism 

message: Should Democratic transhumanism and libertarian transhumanism be merged and redirected into Transhumanist politics? It seems unnecessary to split three articles that fall under the same subject. Combining the articles may increase the number of readers who access this information. This would also resolve the notability challenge that has been on this article since 2013. Waters.Justin (talk) 14:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge and redirect to [[Transhumanist politics]]?

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