Talk:Korean People's Army Air Force

message: I have created the North Korean Air Force list of equipment section. Any updates, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Equipment 

message: Are the names translated from Korean, or are they external (e.g. US) names? Fg2 15:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: The article says that Mig-29s are suspected at Sunchon, but upon closer inspection of the Google Maps imagery, there appears to be one maybe two on the tarmac near a small hanger/ maintenance shed:
Google Maps 
Anyone else see the same thing? Grunherz 20:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sunchon Mig-29s

message: nuff said BQZip01 15:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fix the table please

message: The article doesn’t answer the question of how the hell they actually ended up with the MD 500, an American chopper. There must be a story behind that... --Viva43 14:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 21:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HByXYxYN7H4
of the KPAF seems to show a MiG-29A, but I can't tell exactly because of the poor angle the shot was taken at. Can someone else share their opinion? Although I'm rather sure that it's a MiG-29A, someone else may provide better reasoning to justify it as the MiG-29C. I also believe that we've established that NK does indeed possess MiG-29S variats, yet we are unsure if it has the MiG-29A variant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 05:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possibly Possessing both MiG-29A and MiG-29C (video proof)

message: I removed the nato names from the fleet table. It was unessesary. EZ1234 (talk) 07:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NATO Names 

message: The Aircraft subtypes and capabilities is kinda not on the subject, I don't think it needs to be there. -  Tourbillon A ? 09:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capabilities 

message: The An-2's large, metal rotary engine is actually a rather good radar reflection and so the section that says the An-2 is hard to see on radar is false.
:Indeed, and any aircraft with a metal propeller is very visible, by default. And as someone who's flown in a An-2, let me assure the reader it is far from silent. This section is being removed. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  An-2 is very visible to radar 

message: I don't know about Su-7(they are probably retired), but North Korea has more than 20 Su-17  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.195.86 (talk) 15:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Su-17 

message: The section on the KPAF airbases notes two locations, Orang and Taetan with Beagle bombers, is there satellite imagery proof of their presence?  I looked it up, and Uiju AB seems to have a good number of Beagles in three locations; two parking areas, and what seems to be an alert pad or a third parking area, near one end of the runway.  The Uiju facility also has SAM batteries and defensive positions similar to what would be found near a high-value airbase.  The coordinates for the base are: 40.147357N, 124.494270E  PTPLauthor (talk) 02:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  H-6/Il-28 basing 

message: The intro section to the Aircraft Inventory has gotten ridiculous, and needs to be addressed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.56.49.217 (talk) 08:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft Inventory 

message: The page is called "Korean People's Air Force", but the lead section starts with "Korean People's Army Air Force". Can somebody parse the "조선인민군 공군" and either move the page back or change the name?--ospalh (talk) 11:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming, "Army"? 

message: This material was cut from the "Defections" section. "On August 18, 2010, a North Korean plane (probably MiG-21 or MiG-15 - now they are using them to train pilots) crashed in China, killing the pilot.North Korean Military Pilot Killed"  The link is dead.  Also, an IP editor contends the death was a training accident.  Without verification this info should stay off of the article page.--S. Rich (talk) 18:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aug 18, 2010 crash 

message: According to this(in russian) http://pvo.guns.ru/s25/s25.htm only 56 CA-1's were manufactured, all for Moscow AAnti-aircraft warfare. maybe there are no Berkuts in North Corean AF?
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    * Pvjatchkilev (talk) 16:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: SA-1\S-25 Berkut

message: Editors should/must please stop adding their original research to this article.  Sure, it is easy to look at Google Earth and give us amateur analysis as to what aircraft appears, but this is not what Wikipedia is about.  WP:NOR is one of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia.  Please respect this.  --S. Rich (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

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message: Are these the MQM-107-based drones?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.194.119 (talk) 11:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drones? 

message: Please note that the KPAF flag image on this page is incorrect in several aspects; see FOTW for my corrected image. I'm not familiar with working on .svg or .jpg images so could someone please kindly work on that. Milesli 08:30, 06 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  KPAF Flag 

message: I have been reverted twice from adding "(North Korea)" as a clarification in the lead. The reply to my edit comment "There is no reason not to be immediately clear for the sake of two words" was "oh, there is", which seems to be an inadequate argument, so I have re-included it. The opinions of other editors would be of use. (Hohum @) 21:32, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarifying  Democratic People's Republic of Korea is North Korea. 

message: This edit looks dubious to me. I have trouble believing the country has enough aircraft, airstrips or fuel to make so many flights.I looked it up and 650 per day is what was reported. —rybec 23:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  650 flights per day? 

message: Does anyone know the significance of the "4.25" marking on the KPAAF flag? (Hohum @) 14:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It signifies the founding date of the Korean People's Army on April 25, 1932.  Ripberger (talk) 02:29, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That should probably be in the article, with a reference. (Hohum @) 17:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significance of 4.25 on flag 

message: North Korea possesses at least two likely Ka-32 helicopters dating back to no later than 2007.  These are based with several Mi-8s belonging to an already-noted civil air support unit nearby, so it is most likely (but unverifiable) that they are the civil transport Ka-32 rather than the Ka-27/Ka-28/Ka-29 variants of the airfame.  Supporting this is the fact that they are relatively far from the coastline and thus unlikely to be for the prominent anti-sub mission of the Ka-27 airframe. 
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.531944,127.374722&q=loc:39.531944,127.374722&hl=en&t=h&z=14
Google Earth image from 2013. These are helipads near the Inhung labor collective, and extend somewhat towards the northeast to show more Mi-8s.
http://i.imgur.com/9PInzGz.png
I don't know how to link to older Google Earth imagery, but this is from a historical 2007 Google Earth image (using the full program to go back in time) showing the two aircraft next to a Mi-8, the contrast demonstrating that they are clearly of the Ka-25/Ka-27 airframe design.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.64.113.242 (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Editors using Google Earth and coming up with material for the article is pure, unadulterated violations of WP:NOR. 104.169.28.236 (talk) 05:04, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ka-27 airframe family found on Google Earth... mostly likely Ka-32A 

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thread_title:  Possible copyright problem 

message: Why the inventory was changed? The link provided bring to nothing: http://forms.flightglobal.com/WorldAirForces2015?product=PREM&mode=DOWNLOAD&DMDcode=FGWC4&fcid={05ceef25-b72e-4bea-9a83-a7ab7d02e55a}_FC078_PREM_201412&fcfileext=pdf
Moreover the previous table (both for aircraft and anti-aircraft systems) included updates from recent additions and evaluation!
The current list rely on OLD (and possibly wrong) '90s data.
I suggest to rely on this source for a more updated table:  http://spioenkop.blogspot.it/2013/09/north-korea-and-her-air-force.html
Stressing some details: as the fact that the North korean air force has NO Mi-24 helicopters (despite what claimed by old sources).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupodimare89 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides being a dead link (now), we don't use blogs as RS's. 104.169.28.236 (talk) 05:06, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventory needs immediate updates 

message: Would somebody who knows about the content of this article please review these recent edits.  7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:26, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits by [[WP:SPA]]

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: At least the Su-7 is found by analysts on maps. But the L-39 and Q-5, despite whatever source quotes, has never been found or reported upon outside of pure lists. Especially the Q-5, it used to be on the flightglobal list but was eventually removed. The Chinese sources that cite it are all circular references. 
Therefore, the Q-5 and L-39 should be removed from the list, but I wonder if anyone else has anything proving its existence? Gorden 2211 (talk) 05:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: The flag is purely made on military fan wiki. DPRKRIGHTNOW (talk) 14:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The new flag issued by Mr. DasREDeemr which does not meet the flags details and the lines in the bottom of the flag.