Talk:Czech declension

message: In my opinion, soudce should be declined in the vocative case as soudče!, not soudce! (otec, otče!).--82.99.155.174 (talk) 17:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Many Czech people think that it is soudče! but they are wrong. The correct vocative is really soudce! (Otec is declined according to another pattern, pán). See Slovník spisovné češtiny or some Czech grammar textbook. --Pajast (talk) 16:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Otec bez otce, pán bez pána. To asi nebude ono, že? (=Otec is NOT declined according to pán) --88.101.76.122 (talk) 02:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

text: If soudče is a mistake, then it is a tiny and unimportant mistake. Most Czhech people would not even notice.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.165.212.242 (talk) 08:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

text: -ec (nom) => če (voc), -ce (nom) => -ce (voc) - plavec => plavče, soudce => soudce  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.13.196.11 (talk) 13:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soudce 

message: I just removed a load of irregular patterns from the lists - if we try and make this article too comprehensive the lists will become overcrowded, they should be for the purpose of listing regular paradigms. Listing words like "oko" and "den" is completely useless. Things like the irregularities of body parts and those nouns which are only plural like dvířka, šaty (dont know the technical term for this) could be addressed in a separate section with explanations. Otherwise a section about "irregular nouns" would be fine surely, like in the Czech conjugation article.. - filelakeshoe 10:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irregular declensions 

message: In the section that lists vyjma/mimo with the genitive, the example doesn't show the use of this preposition. It uses kromě instead. But I don't know Czech anywhere near well enough to make another example. TarisWerewolf (talk) 10:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Rozumím všem románským jazykům vyjma (kromě) španělštiny. - I understand all the Romance languages except Spanish. Mimo is rather used in the meaning of out of.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.30.64.74 (talk) 08:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Mimo means "out of" when used with the accusative, e.g. "jsem mimo Prahu" - I'm out of Prague/outside of Prague. Can you give an example with mimo + genitive? - filelakeshoe 13:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is the same use as the example above. Každý mimo ní je hloupý. - Everyone is stupid except her. However, this expression is not so common.--217.30.64.74 (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  kromě vs. vyjma/mimo 

message: Native speaker opinion needed here please. What about place names? In particular place names which are plural have always seemed to have somewhat irregular declension, but I can't find any sources and I don't want to add more OR to this article...
From my own experience I've noticed all plural place names seem to follow one of these paradigms, but I might be wrong/missing something:
Nom           	Holešovice  	Letňany  	Řepy  	Stodůlky
Gen (z...)    	Holešovic   	Letňan   	Řep   	Stodůlek
Dat (k...)    	Holešovicům 	Letňanům 	Řepům 	Stodůlkám
Acc (pro...)  	Holešovice  	Letňany  	Řepy  	Stodůlky
Loc (v/na...) 	Holešovicích	Letňanech	Řepích	Stodůlkách
Inst (mezi...)	Holešovicemi	Letňany  	Řepy  	Stodůlkami
If I'm right then only the last one is regular (the -ky following the žena pattern), what happened to all the others? Are they even masculine or feminine? - filelakeshoe 13:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The genders are not important, because the declension is irregular and the singular numbers do not exist anyway. The correct declension of these four (probably feminine) names:
 
Nom           	Holešovice  	Letňany            	Řepy         	Stodůlky
Gen (z...)    	Holešovic   	Letňan             	Řep          	Stodůlek
Dat (k...)    	Holešovicím 	Letňanům           	Řepům (Řepím)	Stodůlkám
Acc (pro...)  	Holešovice  	Letňany            	Řepy         	Stodůlky
Loc (v/na...) 	Holešovicích	Letňanech          	Řepích       	Stodůlkách
Inst (mezi...)	Holešovicemi	Letňanami (Letňany)	Řepami (Řepy)	Stodůlkami
Hello User:Filelakeshoe, they behave like pluralia tantum (podstatná jména pomnožná) and their declension is fairly regular - Holešovice like ulice in plural etc. Sometimes there are two possibilities, e.g. Gen. of Hostivice can be either Hostivic (pl. tantum like Holešovice) or Hostivice (singular like růže). --Jan Spousta (talk) 10:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place names 

message: I think that those nouns should be more explained and the -en- suffix should be highlighted just like -et- in kuře. I am no expert, but from my understanding, the declinations look like following:
            	Sg.           	Sg.         	Pl.
Nominative  	Rámě (archaic)	Rameno      	Ramena
Genitive    	Ramene        	Ramena      	RamenRamenou
Dative      	Rameni        	Ramenu      	Ramenům
Accusative  	Rámě (archaic)	Rameno      	Ramena
Vocative    	Rámě (archaic)	Rameno      	Ramena
Locative    	Rameni        	RamenuRameně	RamenechRamenou
Instrumental	Ramenem       	Ramenem     	Rameny
Ratajs (talk) 09:08, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rámě ~ Rameno, Plémě ~ Plemeno, Sémě ~ Semeno, Břímě ~ Břemeno 

message: Those three possessives follow exactly the same declension pattern. Maybe it would be best to join them and explain as an introduction the difference in meaning of the reflexive possessive, to help learners and interested people in noticing that. Quereilla (talk) 17:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fusing můj, tvůj and svůj?