Talk:Belen Jesuit Preparatory School

message: I'd like to hear issues/points with the conflict of interest message on the front page.  It seems to be that the tone is that of a guidebook as opposed to a wikipedia article.  Any thoughts on how this addresses WP:NPOV.  I think some of the more obvious problems have been cleaned up after #5 in 2007. 
Lucas20 (talk) 03:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: POV/COI

message: Text added here today "Better known for going to elite Jesuit Colegio de Dolores." re: Fidel Castro has been moved to his entry. Fidel graduated from Belen and there actually is no mention of Colegio de Dolores in his entry. I feel that sort of information is irrelevant here.
Nevermind, I can't edit the Fidel Castro page because I do not have an account here, nor do I intend to create one. But none-the-less the irrelevant edit has been removed.
-A. H. J.
Take a look at the list of 2007 best books in any newspaper. "Boys from Dolores" a biography of Castro and his classmates at Dolores is surely on the list. Fidel went to belen for a year.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.219.7 (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Fidel Castro]]

message: I strongly feel the article reads like an advertisement for the Belen School (e.g.: The Ignatian Center for the Arts is located on the north side of our campus; Which I have since revised) While I am not currently disputing any of the facts in the article (I have not reviewed them all), I do believe it could be written in a more neutral matter, hence why the POV check tag has been added.
I am making minor changes to the article so that it reads in a more neutral point-of-view, however further revision is still required.
-Andrew Joakimsen 30th Dec 2007
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.164.30 (talk) 04:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: This article is larded over with so much useless and meaningless information. "Construction is starting on an admin building"? Woo Hoo lets add it in. "Toilets backed up on second floor", stick it in Wikipedia. Really, contain yourselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.179.105 (talk) 22:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreadable Tripe

message: * The posting is Noteworthy Alumni: Belen has produced many bureaucrats, professionals, and other influential members of society. These include:  All those persons qualify under that listing as do many more.  This is an inclusive list not exclusive.  Callelinea 16:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Noteworthy Alumni

message: "Operation Coke" should not have been removed. The reference to popular drug of the 70s was over the top, but the school's history is not just what has happened over the last 25 years in the swamps of West Dade.  —Preceding Sangano comment added by 72.85.162.130 (talk) 13:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Timeline

message: Callelinea, I appreciate your efforts to maintain this page as clean as possible. But please, leave this shortened list. The other list was too long, and difficult to read. 
130.64.148.88 18:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would like to point out (as it was pointed out to me!) that the term "alumni" refers to anyone who ever attended Belen. Graduation is not essential to be alumni. People who were ever a student are eligibile. Student7 (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Alumni

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Belenlogo.png

message: I suggest that the history section be rewritten to eliminate bullets. Just write them as prose with dates. The intro seems a bit long IMO. I think some of this can productively be moved into other sections. 
A suggested structure for all school articles is given in School template.
I suggest that some of the awards mentioned in history be placed separately into a "Recognition" section.Student7 (talk) 23:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested easy rewrite

message: I added it because the athletic section initially reads like Beowulf. The facts of winning or losing should be simply stated and those should speak for themselves. There's no need to state anything more.
Further, without the citations it comes off looking even more biased. This needs some serious fixing up by either finding the sources for a lot of those statements or for getting rid of them to be in keeping with NPOV and Citations needed. I understand that you guys probably are all attending Belen or are alumni, but it still should be in keeping with the guidelines. We have similar problems at the Jesuit HS in Tampa wiki article.--DeviantCharles (talk) 13:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I am an Alumni of Belen.. The Miami Herald has over 5000 articles on Belen from 1995 to present.. I have gone thru some 3oo of them and have found appropriate citations for most of the missing citations.  I have removed the POV tag and citation tags.  I am not a sports fan and would of preferred that more be put in the academic prizes that Belen has won rather then the sports.. but most people are interested in sports.  Callelinea (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removals now that they're either sourced or show that citations are needed where they are needed. Good job.--DeviantCharles (talk) 12:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added that POV tag 

message: It is my understanding that we aren't supposed to be using any honorifics in Wikipedia. It is POV. Having said that, this is often violated with "Fr." used often for the first mention of a priest instead of "Rev." Student7 (talk) 00:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the wikipedia article on the subject only monastic and mendicant orders use the term Rev. Fr.; the Jesuits are secular priests and in written form use Rev.  Yes when you speak to a priest you use the term Fr. "so and so" , not Rev. "so and so"; but in written form it is REV. Callelinea (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverend vs Father

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message: Hello, I am an architect and I do pages on the architecture of Havana and did not know this page on Belen existed, and so I did the Instituto Técnico Militar instead; however, I've had this page, or similar, in the back of my mind. A problem, the confusion of schools with different buildings; I am particularly interested in the Republican period and in the 1854 school; should there be 3 pages? Please, suggestions!
PS: I grew up in the area and I am familiar with the building as I went to Sunday school at Belen and used to play basketball there; I was a student at Candler College until 1962 when we left. I was in Havana two years ago, tried to get into Belen and Tropicana, no luck. Cheers!
ovA_165443 (talk) 03:32, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Instituto Técnico Militar