Talk:New Tang Dynasty Television

message: Under History it mentions that NTD is now broadcast on Sky UK channel 190 and then goes on to almost suggest that this has been done because CGTN was banned by Ofcom. Surely this is unlikely since NTD is very anti the Chinese communist party. --BrianDGregory (talk) 02:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2007/3/28/83983.html --just keeping useful references.--Asdfg12345 19:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AAP article 

message: Asdfg, you have undone many of my edit, only to fail in defending your reason. If you unilatterally make undo/archive/move my edit without good reason, I will lodge a complaint agains you.
The edit I'm about to make in this page pertains to NTDTV's affaliation with Falun Gong. This fact is documented by the US Congress (ref: Thomas Lum's CRS report, page CRS-8.)
If you touch my edit I will file a complaint against you!!!
Bobby fletcher (talk) 09:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning to Asdfg to not undo other's edit 

message: I deny your accusations and demand you produce evidence to support your accusation.
Bobby fletcher (talk) 19:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputing Asdfg's baseless accusation of "breaking Wikipedia policies", "spamming talk pages" 

message: I recently made this edit to balance out the article in accordance with WP:NPOV. Too many mainstream sources were not given due attention and the intro was more or less worded like an advertisement. If there are any issues arising from this edit I respectfully ask that it would be discussed here first. Colipon+(Talk) 06:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balancing article. 

message: Hello, could you please point me on your source on this? I looked for the content and for the title but no real source came up. --HappyInGeneral (talk) 21:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have serious doubts regarding this source 

message: I updated the logo per this recent press release. The press release also says that they are changing the acronym to NTD, but I am not sure how to change the page redirection from NTDTV. Can anyone help? Cirrus 03:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating the Logo 

message: Why does every FLG article read like an endorsement of the practice? 
"Its stated mission is to bring truthful and uncensored information into and out of China; to restore and promote traditional Chinese culture; and to facilitate mutual understanding between the East and West."
Already, in the opening paragraph, we are essentially told that the information provided via NTDTV is "truthful" and "uncensored". This is POV at it's worst. This station has a political agenda. I'm editing this advertising out of the page. AnAimlessRoad (talk) 19:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored this. It's sourced to the company's about us page. http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/aboutus.html It's entirely normal to provide a media company's self-description in Wikipedia. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 20:21, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop the lies! How can people who are not allowed to enter China do neutral journalism? Most of their stuff is fake and biased as hell. It's just disgusting and laughable to watch their stuff. --94.217.191.110 (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Falun Gong Endorsement. 

message: I note that the article mentions the YouTube channel known as China Uncensored, hosted by Chris Chappell, as a part of NTD. There was a sentence after this claim questioning it (which I am about to remove, as it is not properly a part of the article), which I believe is a valid question. I found that the NTD site itself hosts episodes of China Uncensored. See . China Uncensored's YouTube channel name contains the letters NTD (https://www.youtube.com/user/NTDChinaUncensored). Taking both details together, this implies a relationship of some kind. I am trying to find more explicit evidence.  Cyberherbalist (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  China Uncensored & NTD 

message: I noticed that the article says that NTD is associated with Falun Gong, however the source doesn't seem to work anymore and I cannot find it to be actually associated to NTD's website. Furthermore, I checked on NTD's actual website's "About" section, and it says nothing about being associated in any way with Falun Gong. Could anyone clarify this? --88.97.24.5 (talk) 04:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Falun Gong Association 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on New Tang Dynasty Television. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://archive.is/20130415111748/http://ntdtv.org/en/pressrls/2012-04-30/new-tang-dynasty-multi-language-channel-launched-on-shaw-cablesystems-in-western-canada.html to http://ntdtv.org/en/pressrls/2012-04-30/new-tang-dynasty-multi-language-channel-launched-on-shaw-cablesystems-in-western-canada.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:47, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: Because New Tang Dynasty Television already has the content of New Tang Dynasty Television (Canada), New Tang Dynasty Television (Canada) may not be needed. But I am not sure the correctness of my thoughts, so start the merge program. Witotiwo (talk) 23:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Support: Per . —Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 (talk) 20:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Klbrain (talk) 20:48, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[New Tang Dynasty Television (Canada)]] 

message: A couple of youtube videos with crowdsourced content existing is not instantly WP:DUE just because an editor thinks they're interesting. We need some evidence that they're relevant to the world in some way. Ideally that would mean mention in WP:SECONDARY reliable sources but even an independent WP:PRIMARY source would be better than WP:ABOUTSELF for establishing significance. Simonm223 (talk) 12:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Their youtube cruft 

message: The wording of this sentence is confusing, while the idea is obvious: "NTDTV's YouTube channel and its extensions are blocked as a result of China's ban on the video sharing website, though the site and NTD's channels can still be accessed if one bypasses the Firewall".
Is there any need to mention that the site still can be accessed if one circumvents the GFW? That just seems redundant and unnecessary. Svagrad (talk) 08:20, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing statement about NTDV ban in China 

message: Hi,
I'm new to Wikipedia and editing, but I was wondering whether anyone here would be willing to add a blurb to the online section, and to the introductory paragraph about how NTD online has essentially become a propaganda channel for right-wing conspiracy theories concerning the recent election? When you visit the Wiki page for Epoch times, its actually one of the lead sentences and helps to make the viewer/reader aware of this important fact. I feel we need something simila for NTD. Their youtube channel boasts approximately 1.1 million subscribers which is pretty significant for that platform, and they basically push voter fraud conspiracy theories nonstop, every day through their extremely one-sided reporting. If you have any doubt please visit their youtube channel below. If no one has any objections and is too busy to do this, I can also give editing the main article a try!
https://www.youtube.com/user/NTDTV
Thank you,
TheGreatMind1 (talk) 00:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add mention about how NTD online has become a propaganda network for right wing conspiracies? 

message: Hi , your edit here reverts 's edit without any edit summary, changing NTD's descriptor to "far-right". May I know which source says NTD is "far-right", thanks. Regards, Thomas Meng (talk) 03:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to ask  who inserted the term one week ago. Certainly The Epoch Times and the Falun Gong have been connected to far-right extremism by New Republic, The New York Times and Vice.com in Germany. Of course, New Tang Dynasty shares the same basic leadership as Epoch Times and Falun Gong. And NBC News said that some shows on NTD "cross the line completely" to the far right, going beyond ultraconservative right and into the realm of conspiracy hoaxing. Binksternet (talk) 04:16, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, as I've said before, I'd strongly recommend judging the Epoch Times and NTD by using neutral media's evaluations such as those by Allsides, instead of biased ones above that have an intention to smear. As Allsides noted: ". So, honestly speaking, I think the "right-wing extremist" label is really unfair for them. Thomas Meng (talk) 14:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

text: I look forward to Mark's reply Thomas Meng (talk) 14:48, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thomas, you are well aware that Allsides is not WP:RS compliant. Enough. :bloodofox: (talk) 04:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

text: AllSides has been rejected as unreliable in  and . However, unlike The Epoch Times, I don't think the sourcing in this article is sufficient to use the far-right descriptor to describe NTDTV in the first sentence, and from a quick search, I did not find any sources that would directly support the descriptor for NTDTV. While NTDTV is a sister organization of The Epoch Times, which is far-right, available reliable sources do not directly describe NTDTV as far-right. Feel free to present more sources if you have found something that I missed. — Newslinger talk 04:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Far-right" descriptor? 

message: barely notable, but deserves mention, just not it's own article. Heyallkatehere (talk) 03:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose: despite they are both Falun Gong propaganda, but they are different two of them - Jjpachano (talk) 14:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose: Besides the supposition that NTD broadcasts China Uncensored's episodes in a compiled version, there are no correlations sufficient between the two for there to be a merge of articles. China Uncensored is its own show, broadcasted in a separate platform, owned by an independent company that is not a subsidiary of NTD or The Epoch Media Group, even though the latter appears to help with some of China Uncensored's funding. And although Chris Chappell does have articles on his name on the Epoch Times website, it is still unclear to me whether he did it as an independent editor seeking greater reach or rather as a participation of the China Uncensored show as a whole. This is from my own independent investigation and look on the matter, although i disagree with the merge in this current moment, I do agree they deserve a mention on New Tang Dynasty Television's article, and there might have enough evidence to make a merge plausible in the future, but i have not found it yet at the present moment. 2804:1680:1127:4517:A002:EF7C:3A38:D6BC (talk) 22:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given the uncontested objections and no support with stale discussion. Klbrain (talk) 12:55, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[China Uncensored]] into [[New Tang Dynasty Television]] 

message: Has it not been proven to general consensus that covid-19 did originate inthe Wuhan China lab? Why is NTD reporting this regarded as propaganda? 2601:199:4180:FCD0:4C0D:E904:5ACA:2DD (talk) 02:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the "lab leak" theory has not been proven. Jarble (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covid 19 origination