Talk:Bad Boys Blue

message: In September 2011 John has made the decision to finish working with Carlos.
In October 2011 the group was joined by Kenny “Krayzee” Lewis, known from collaboration with C.C.Catch, Touché and Mark ‘Oh.  
Late in the year 2011 John has made the decision to finish working with "Krayzee".
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmarskiy II (talk • contribs) 12:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kenny "Krayzee" Lewis is a new bad boy! 

message: This page has maintained neutrality for an extended period of time - thanks to coherent & mutually respectful work of a number of contributors. Disruptors attempting to thwart this process will not be tolerated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.253.211.174 (talk) 14:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep this page fair and objective 

message: This page has become a subject of systematic vandalism by a user from Holland who deliberately obliterates neutral info on this page and conveniently replaces it with biased nonsense. Protection of the article has been requested. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.14.61.84 (talk) 00:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated vandalism by user 89.200.212.78 

message: I saw the other day this version offered for sale on ebay, which went up for... over $500(!) before it got pulled. I don't if that was real or just a work of some scammer, but one thing is clear for sure: there are people out there who know and appreciate the real vocalist of Bad Boys Blue - 20 year after he was kicked out from the group... and are willing to shell out a few hundred bucks just to hear this voice on the track. What do you know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.14.54.187 (talk) 20:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Come Back And Stay - Trevor Taylor's original version 

message: An IP-hopper - turned - Atbbb user vandalized the page at least 10 times as of today. After monitoring the page for some time, it is clear what this vandal is doing on daily basis. His intent is to disrupt the article and twist it in the way he/she feels fit. Not a single edit of the user had been constructive. The page should be protected to keep vandals like Atbbb away. Esoteriqa 15:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect that Atbbb could be a sock-puppet of a user who several weeks ago added an image of himself together with... john's formation, namely Zureks. If you look at the pattern of edits done on bbb pages of several other languages, including german and french, you will see a striking resemblance in IP's of this IP-hopper prior to his becoming Atbbb AND user Zureks along with his non-user name IP entries, at the time of the same image being uploaded on various pages by this Zureks or his non-user name IP version. I suspect that since he clearly supports john's formation and wanted to have only that image on the bbb pages, he decided to create a diversion, supposedly promoting andrew's formation, in order to have the latter eventually removed. That is, the goal is to make enough ridiculous alterations, "promoting" andrew's (less significant) formation as a more important one, that will make any mentioning of andrew's formation so annoying that eventually it will have to be removed from the page all together. After all, not that many bbb wiki pages tend to even mention about andrew's formation. So, it would be very convenient for john's formation supporter to indirectly cause to have andrew's formation obliterated from wiki. In fact, Atbbb made a (very twisted) reference to the same image as the one posted by Zureks, in a way that would not make sense... unless you can find a direct connection between these two user names. I could be wrong with this sock-puppet theory, but I doubt that I am. 76.217.121.173 05:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Declined The page is hardly being vandalised daily. Yes, vandalism is frustrating, but I won't protect the page for one person who is vandalising the page once every few days. Feel free to request a review of this at WP:ANI. -- Flyguy649 talk 21:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the same s.o.b. made 15 reverts since November 24. look at the article history page. not enough vandalizing, eh? sure... whatever you say. 99.144.178.237 (talk) 22:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

text: "The page is hardly being vandalised daily." Really? Let's see: between Nov. 24 & Dec. 16 there are about 23 days, during which there were about 15 reverts made. So, 15/23 is about 2/3 which means the page is regularly vandalized on 2 occasions during every 3 days. I say, 2 out of 3 is close enough to call it "daily". I highly doubt you're that mathematically challenged not to realize it. I'm sure you can do better than just giving a nonsensical excuses for declining valid page protection requests. USRepublican (talk) 23:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

text: One more point. Look at the thread-starter's initial entry: Dec. 3, when he says like "it's a 10th vandalism attempt". Between Nov. 24 & Dec. 3 there are EXACTLY 10 days!!! "Hardly daily"??? Do you even know what you're talking about? I hope this is not how you earned your editorial stars. USRepublican (talk) 23:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Page-protection is generally for massive moment-by moment vandalism attacks, across several IP addresses. This guy shows up every week or so, makes a dick of himself and gets reverted. Also, calling an admin 'ignorant', simply because they aren't jumping through hoops for you isn't going to help your case, nor is insulting the vandal in your edit summaries. HalfShadow (talk) 16:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a better idea? (btw, I'm the "IP range" who's done most of the reverts - now I have my account) Lionscitygl (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Beyond 'Revert, wipe, continue', no. Unless you're getting hit every few minutes or so, you'd be told basically the same thing on the request page: You're just not getting hit hard enough to warrant protection yet. This guys is almost literally doing it only a couple of times a day when he does it at all. HalfShadow (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the problem. If my theory (2nd post in the thread) is correct then it is the guy who knows the system well enough to avoid the 3rr rule or the warrant to have the page he trashes be protected, because the user in question is actually an admin in Polish wiki. That's why I say that the vandal is not some dumbass whom he tries to portray - he actually knows exactly what he's doing. Lionscitygl (talk) 18:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection should be implemented to this article to prevent it from daily vandalism. 

message: :File:Bad Boys Blue - Heartbeat album cover 1986.jpg needs to be removed from the artist infobox as a non-fair use of an album cover per Wikipedia:Non-free content. Aspects (talk) 23:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: NFC doesn't allow for album covers as part of discographies; however, individually, they're OK as long as they've got fair-use criteria. It would be safe to shrink that image a little bit, though... m.o.p 01:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Bad Boys Blue - Heartbeat album cover 1986.jpg]] 

message: I bought a remix album at amazon.com entitled "Rarities Remixed", which is not in the list. But why? --77.118.139.242 (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlisted Remixalbum 

message: :File:Bad Boys Blue - Heartbeat album cover 1986.jpg needs to be removed from the artist infobox because the image was deleted per a File for deletion discussion. Aspects (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted Picture

message: Is everyone calmer now?andycjp (talk) 04:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside from the person posting as 'badboysblue' everyone appeared to be calm all along, btw. Thanks to that character, nobody wants to touch this article anymore, and prefers to see it left in its present, totally worthless, form. Lionscitygl (talk) 04:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Okay, this page needs to be unprotected. It needs to be wikified, and "new wave" should be added to genre in infobox.98.110.5.124 (talk) 11:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, and the paragraph below about Trevor, that was dropped from the article at the request of the troublemaker, will have to go back in as well:
Charismatic Trevor Taylor provided his unique lead vocal for the group's early, signature defining, hit singles including You're A Woman, Pretty Young Girl, and I Wanna Hear Your Heartbeat, as well as for the entire first two albums. He essentially owns the credit for placing Bad Boys Blue on the "map" with his unique vocal presentation style. However, a second 1987 single Come Back And Stay, from the 3rd album, no longer featured him on lead vocal. Although the track was originally recorded as demo with Trevor Taylor's voice, the producers subjectively chose John McInerney's version. A major pretext which prompted the switch was the song by the Pet Shop Boys, called It's a Sin, which was released a few months prior to Come Back And Stay. The Bad Boys Blue producers made the sound of Come Back And Stay in the image of the Pet Shop Boys song. However, It's a Sin, which already at the time scored very high on many European charts was sung by a voice that was much higher than that of Trevor Taylor's. Hence came the idea to give the song to John McInerney, who also had a higher voice - in order to ensure a greater degree of similarity between the two songs. The Bad Boys Blue producers in a way hoped that it would create a greater chance of success for Come Back And Stay release. This, in turn, created tension within the group which ultimately lead to Trevor Taylor's departure, who understandably did not wish to accept the changes. A noteworthy fact is that Trevor Taylor did not leave the group right away following the switch, and stayed with the group for a whole year, during which he was incrementally phased out from his position of the front-man. During that transitional period his participation as the lead singer dropped first to 60% and then to 20% of songs sung on the 3rd and the 4th albums, respectively. That move was not incidental, for it was a key strategy implemented by the producers to ensure survivability and continuity of their project, that is to make sure in the public eye that both Taylor and McInerney were still present in the group, only that their respective positions had been switched, where the fans were now expected to become accustomed to seeing Taylor appear in the shadow of McInerney. Only after McInerney appeared on enough of new tracks as lead singer, Taylor could finally leave the group. This move was made possible by contractual obligations established by the Bad Boys Blue producers which legally prevented Trevor Taylor from exiting the band prematurely (that is, not until the transition period was completed), and therefore the producers were guaranteed to have a smooth continuation of their project. Had this transition been abrupt, namely if Trevor Taylor was allowed to leave the group right away as he intended to (in order to avoid a soon-to-be established stigma of him being perceived as demoted from his original role), the McInerney-lead collective would have experienced similar problems in the area of public acknowledgment that the formation of the late Andrew Thomas (see below) was facing. However, it is important to recognize that a mere substitution of vocalists on the release of Come Back And Stay was not the culprit itself, for it did not really account for Trevor Taylor's wish to promptly leave the group after a seemingly single substitution incident. That's because the release of the song was just an opportunity, an excuse so to speak, for the producers to remove Trevor Taylor for good from his being the front-man. This stems from the fact that, despite the group's massive popularity, the producers nevertheless were not particularly happy with Trevor Taylor's unique representation of the group as the lead singer, who was the only member of the original trio to regularly contribute his own material for the albums, and whose overall peculiar sound and singing style was broadcasting the group's image in a way that was different from the one subjectively envisioned for the Bad Boys Blue by the producers. In other words, the producers were determined to have their project portrayed solely as they saw fit, and the release of Come Back And Stay was their venue of implementation of the permanent switch - towards the singer who would be more conforming to their idiosyncratic ideas. Such an action on the producers' part was not uniformly accepted throughout the fan base, as it is generally believed that a significant portion of fans was lost following the switch of lead vocalists. After leaving Bad Boys Blue, Trevor Taylor had been involved at some point in various projects, such as Street Noise and Osazuwas, and more recently in Supa T and Umoya, whereas John McInerney went on to perform lead vocal on the majority of Bad Boys Blue's output.
...Lionscitygl (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Unprotect?

message: Due to the level of protection i cannot make this minor edit myself so:
The link Zoo Entertainment needs to be changed to Zoo Entertainment (record label) due to a disambiguation of Zoo Entertainment.
Thanks, Salavat (talk) 20:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link needs updating 

message: Hi, could the admins please add this? Thanks. -- Frous (talk) 16:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add: they rank among the 100 best-selling artists in Finland 

message: Please add :uk:Bad Boys Blue to the article --Perohanych (talk) 19:16, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki 

message: Can you please change the line-up information. Should be like this:
2009-2011
* John McInerney
* Carlos Ferreira
2011-2012
* John McInerney
* Sylvia McInerney
* Edith Miracle
* Krayzee
2012-Present
* John McInerney
* Sylvia McInerney
* Edith Miracle
Source: The official Bad Boys Blue website: http://www.badboysblue.info/
Oneandmillion (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Seems like an uncontroversial change, supported by their own website. The Blade of the Northern Lights  (話して下さい) 00:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line-up information 

message: Pls, review the articles that I have created about BBB's albums.
I wanna cover their all studio albums.
Later, I want to write articles about Taylor Trevor and Tony Hendrik -- the initial info is in the Russian wiki.
Should we write about John?
Best regards,
Lamro (talk) 12:18, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBB's albums 

message: The photo needs to be captioned as John McInerney. At present, readers unfamiliar with the band will not know who it is. --70.194.102.24 (talk) 01:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo caption needed 

message: When is his birthday? In some sources May 20, 1946 and in some May 25, 1946. What is right and what is wrong? --108.185.187.168 (talk) 05:47, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew Freddie Thomas 

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