Talk:Prince Nashimoto Morimasa

message: The title of this article, "Prince Nashimoto" is in error, as "Prince Nashimoto" can refer to any male member of the Nashimoto-no-miya household. To be precise, this article should be called “Prince Nashimoto Morimasa". Although I suppose that it could be argued that Prince Nashimoto had no male offspring, and his line therefore became extinct this issue is moot, for the sake of clarity and to maintain standardization with wiki article naming for other members of the Japanese Imperial Household, the name of the article should be changed. 
MChew 10:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I have a question about that: Is it correct also to say "Prince Morimasa of Nashimoto", just like the format "Prince Tomohito of Mikasa"? Gryffindor 10:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very confusing. Well, IMO the Imperial Household Agency must know best. the "of X" obviously refers to a princely house, therefore a 1-1 usage from the English usage does not work. I would not change anything with "Prince Tomohito of Mikasa" or Princess Tsuguko of Takamado for that matter. I think we can move the article to "Prince Nashimoto Morimasa", however one more question. Is the convention for Japanese names at least after the Taisho period to use first names first and then the last name? Or is there an exception to royalty? And what about all the Prince Kunis? Is it Prince Taka of Kuni, since he was not head of the household? Gryffindor 17:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The preposition "of" does not generally imply a geographic entity, eg, "Katie Couric of CBS said..." I don't see anything wrong with using "of" to refer to a princely house. Any change to the current setup should be discussed at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles).--Jiang 05:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Nashimoto is not merely a name. It is a branch of the imperial family (eg Arisugawa-no-miya), of which all members have its name appended to their official titles. "Katie of CBS" is a ridiculous name because that is not what she is called, either unofficially of officially. On the other hand, the name we have here is Nashimoto no miya Morimasa ō, not simply Morimasa ō. I really don't see how the preposition "of" has to be limited to physical things. --Jiang 07:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree that "Prince Nashimoto" will not suffice. If there were multiple princes from the nashimoto-no-miya, well then change it. However the format "Prince(ss) X of Y" does exist for Japanese royals which is completely legitimate, so now what do we do? Gryffindor 09:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion on Title of Page 

message: It was requested that this article be renamed but the procedure outlined at WP:RM#How to request a page move did not appear to be followed, and consensus could not be determined. Please request a move again with proper procedure if there is still a desire for the page to be moved. Thank you for your time! -- tariqabjotu 00:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Request 

message: the father-in-law of Crown Prince Euimin of Korea -> the father-in-law of Crown Prince Euimin of Daehan --안성균 (talk) 08:57, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  National name problem