Talk:List of vegetables

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eleted a while ago, and no one noticed.  Since their former catagory is gone, I'm not sure if they belong under Leafy and salad vegetables, Fruiting and flowering vegetables, or Bulb and stem vegetables.  Someone who knows should add them, though. Poolboy8 (talk) 00:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

message: Is a pickle a vegetable, then? ~Lexie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.214.50 (talk) 22:46, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A "pickle" is a pickled cucumber.  Cucumbers are vegetables, so yes. --Irrevenant [ talk ] 19:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pickle?

message: Would an avocado be one of those things that is botanically a fruit but commonly thought of in the gustatory world as a veggie? --Qaz 05:48, 29 December 2002
And what about the tomato? -- Zoe 05:56, 29 December 2002 
The tomato is a fruit. --Two Halves 06:00, 29 December 2002
O.k., I'll play nice.  The tomato is often used the way that a vegetable is used, and I appreciate the clarification made in the article. --Two Halves 06:12, 29 December 2002
Other things on the list would have to be taken off too if we took off all the fruits as determined botanically, eggplant for instance. --Qaz 06:15, 29 December 2002
:as this is a reference index I think it would be better for things to appaer on both lists (fruits and vegetables) rather than be excluded for technicalities- I would like to see this page eventually link to thorough articles on each item in order to act as a 'portal' to an in depth growing guide that gardeners (for example) could then bookmark for reference. tomatoes, aubergines and other solanaceae would be included in most veg growing or cooking guides, wheras apples, pears, cherries clearly wouldn't quercus robur 13:03, 29 December 2002
:Fruits are vegetables; the distinctions is essentially meaningless, and usually only amounts, in everyday English, to "this is a 'fruit' because it's sweet, or sweet-sour", and nothing else.  Various things we classify as "vegatables" for culinary purposes are fruits, such as peppers as well as the aforementioend.  They should be covered here, but note that they're technically fruits.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  12:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Avocado

message: What's with all this "actually fruits, but treated as vegetables" business?  All fruits are vegetables! PRB 13:54, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Actually fruits?

message: Pasted below are the following three items which were cut out from the bottom of the list - they were placed there out of alphabetic order;
* DrumStick(available in Kathikaamam,  Tamil Eelam.)
* Ladies Finger (Available in Vanni, Tamil Eelam.)
* Brinjal (Available India, Tamil Eelam, Sri Lanka, Pakistan.)
* Ladies finger is another name for okra, which is already listed.
* Brinjal is a name (Indian subcontinent) for aubergine/eggplant, also listed.
* Drumstick - I know this, I've even eaten it! Can't quite name it though, but it may already be in the list.    
Imc 21:38, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut items

message: I can't find Amerigo in Google as the name of a bean.  I think it needs to have a solid reference before listing. Is it just a variety? And if so of what species?  WormRunner | Talk 05:56, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amerigo not found 

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.33.116.3 (talk) 08:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  And I cannot find chives 

message: Hmm, if lemongrass can be included here, what's to stop the other herbs such as thyme or basil from being included as well? Lemon grass is not eaten raw like you would a carrot or a stick of celery to my knowledge. And if you did try so, then you'd better chew carefully for the leaves can cut your tongue like a paper can cut your finger. You do not add seasoning to lemongrass just to eat it. Instead you use lemongrass as a seasoning to flavor a dish. It's also used medicinally in some parts of Asia. --Dara 11:38, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemongrass 

message: I have reverted an anonymous user's wholesale reduction of the list.  While I agree with some of the deletions, the overall effect was to reduce the usefulness of the list.  Sweet corn is used as a vegetable, as are nettles.  There is no justification for eliminating such vegetables as Kohlrabi, and so forth.  Perhaps we can agree on a list of guidelines for inclusion? -- WormRunner | Talk 20:53, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just a list page. Anything that is commonly thought of as a vegetable should go in, never mind the tchnicalities of scientific classification, that way the page is much more useful to users. There's a blurb at the top of the page that clarifies this point already quercus robur 00:30, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What should go in this list 

message: Perhaps it would simpler to have a section for proposed additions, e.g. Leak —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hongkonger (talk) 11:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Leak

message: added to the list. had one in portugal 30 ys. ago, looked tasted like a bittermelon but was green.
Would somebody give a botanical identification please ?http://www.ipfsaph.org/id/WTOTBTNF036353
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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.134.88.88 (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Christoferine

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.172.202 (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  corn is it a vegetable or a herb 

message: I have just re-done this page with lots of additions. I have arranged the list in subcategories corresponding roughly to which bits of the plant are eaten. I realise that the term vegetable is not exact, so expect there to be additions to and removals from this list. I have deliberately removed any culinary herbs (ie those used to flavour food rather than as a source of calories). Hope you like. Dave 12:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Beans and lentils and chickpeas and so forth are pulses NOT vegetables.
If someone would need to know the difference between vegetables and pulses using this list for his diet, he/she would make a big mistake and increase his/her confusion and ignorance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.53.176.52 (talk) 13:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Idiots like you are a massive source of public ignorance.  A vegetable is  "a plant or part of a plant, which is used as food".  If you can find me a bean, lentil, or chickpea, which is NOT a vegetable, I would be impressed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PRB (talk) 18:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd say that beans lentils and chickpeas are pulses AND vegetables. Read the discussion above, especially under the heading What should go in this list. The term vegetable is a vague one. Dave 17:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This pretending to be an encyclopedia increases public ignorance 

message: Moved the following from the article to here: (Dave 16:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Watermelon

message: Seaweeds are not plants and thus are not vegetables, they are algae. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.171.189.104 (talk • contribs • WHOIS) . 12:06, 21 November 2006  
: The plants listed under this section aren't algae. There are algae that live in the sea, certainly, but that's not what this list contains. This lists plants that grow in water that are eaten as vegetables. If I'm mistaken, and some of the particular seaweed vegetables here are actually algae, please feel free to correct me with specifics. Otherwise, please don't remove the list, okay? Thanks. Waitak 13:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seaweeds are indeed algae (marine macroalgae) and so this is the only section in this list that does not list members of the kingdom Plantae. I think they should stay, but maybe the introduction needs changing. Thoughts? Dave 17:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I'll be darned. I stand corrected. I'd always had a layman's understanding that seaweeds are just plants that happen to grow in the sea. I agree that they need to stay - this is a list of vegetables, not just a list of edible plants. But it would be a good idea to make that more explicit. Waitak 00:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The wiki article about red algae, under taxonomy, states that there is a debate to which kingdom it belongs. Some say Plantae and some say Protista. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.8.205.126 (talk) 00:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Seaweed

message: I'm considering trying to bring this list up to Featured List status. It'd clearly need a lot more information for each entry to be a featured list. Initial thoughts are:
* Nutritional properties - e.g. brocolli is high in vitamin C and soluble fiber...
* Global distribution - where is the vegetable eaten
* Usage - how is the vegetable eaten
Any thoughts? We'd need a lot of references to survive the process, and the list would change pretty dramatically. Any objections? Anybody willing to chip in? Waitak 12:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured list? 

message: Shouldn't there be sprouts on this list too? What about pickled veggies? Mushrooms? I guess it all depends on whether we want to make a list of culinary vegetables, or of botanically-verified veggies...Zigzig20s 10:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say no, since this is really concerned with the plants, not with the way they're prepared, no? Waitak 11:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I use them as salads...like I do lamb's lettuce or whatnot.Zigzig20s 13:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sprouts? 

message: Is there a reason that I can't think of just now that wasabi is on this list but
horseradish is not?  There's already a Wikipedia article that could be linked to
if someone wanted to add it to the list. -- Antiquegeek (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horseradish 

message: I didn't see broccoli rabe under the leaf vegetables section.  I'm going to add it.72.78.180.179 (talk) 03:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broccoli di rape 

message: I see someone recently removed 'aubergine' from the list. Where a vegetable is commonly known by two different names, wouldn't it make sense to list it twice? Typically this an America/Rest of the World dichotomy, as in aubergine/eggplant, swede/rutabaga, etc. --candyworm (talk) 15:17, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, in the absence of objection I'll proceed. --candyworm (talk) 19:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  alternative names and engvar 

message: Considering that the US government has declared pizza sauce (tomato sauce) to be a vegetable (related sources include the Minneapolis Star Tribune, The Guardian, Washington Post, New York Daily News, and a lot more), it would probably be proper to add "Pizza sauce (US)" to this article, since that would be accurate. The IPs aren't really being vandals in this case, since they are pretty much accurate with what they're adding. But, at least by adding the US label, we'll be clarifying that this is only in the United States. SilverserenC 07:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the refs. I've added a short blurb on "legal vegetables" to the lead section. Hopefully this will act as enough of a preemptive mention to prevent less careful edits. Waitak (talk) 14:34, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That works. SilverserenC 14:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pizza sauce issue 

message: Where do grapes fall  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.168.212 (talk) 14:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: List of fruits. Though I suppose grape leaves could be listed as a vegetable as they are sometimes eaten. Plantdrew (talk) 18:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they are eaten with filling and using grape leaves to roll them.  Not sure why they are not included in this list.174.3.125.23 (talk) 12:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grapes? 

message: List of vegetables used in Assamese cuisine was recently moved per .  Closer notes that "... "culinary" seems unnecessary".  For the easyease of reading, we our article names should be consistent.  Thus, should this article be List of vegetables, or should List of vegetables used in Assamese cuisine be moved to List of culinary vegetables used in Assamese cuisine?174.3.125.23 (talk) 05:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably this list is named to be consistent with list of culinary fruits and list of culinary nuts, where there's a distinction between fruits and nuts as defined by botanists or by cooks. Vegetable is pretty much exclusively a culinary category, so "culinary" might be unneccessary (though I do notice some previous discussion on the talk page about whether beans are pulses or vegetables; neither pulse nor vegetable is a botanical category; culinary preparation is what makes that distinction (fresh peas are a vegetable, dried peas are a pulse). Plantdrew (talk) 21:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hhmm, well I've thought about the definition of a vegetable.  A vegetable includes roots, stems, and leaves, and excludes fruits, including the anatomical parts of a nut discussed on list of culinary nuts.  The only problem with List of vegetables may be the possible confusion of people in a vegetative state.  I think that readers would first look at list of vegatableslist of vegetables rather than the additional prefix.  Looking forward to your thoughts.174.3.125.23 (talk) 09:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of vegetables used in Assamese cuisine]] 

message: I'd like to propose Okra be moved under the fruit section; it seems much more similar to cucumbers and peppers than beans and peas rubah (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an edible pod. "Podded vegetables" seems to be the correct place for it. Meters (talk) 01:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Okra