Talk:Propaganda in Nazi Germany

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Excuse me. But if I recall the image on this article, although anti american propaganda, is not nazi. Are you guys sure? 200.222.30.9 16:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk page

message: Someone more familiar with the topic, please review the page and reverts etc. done by me others / contents as it was and so on. Thank you. --Bhadani 02:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please help

message: Could someone please prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that the Learned Elders of Zion do not exist and the book is in fact a fabrication? Many things history has shown me and what humanity faces today have been in fact predicted in that damn book, and whenever I check, a Jew is behind it. So if you dare consider the book a fabrication beyond a reasonable doubt, I want you to prove it as such, as an impartial court could build a 'conspiracy to commit crimes against humanity' indictment against the Learned Elders if an impartial court existed. 209.226.138.179 02:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid the onus is on you to provide evidence that it is not a fabrication and Tzarist Anti-Semitic propaganda. Also, this is not a forum. Take your knuckledragging to a blog. Cheerfully, freshacconcispeaktome 16:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Learned Elders

message: That one section that displays some pictures of propaganda posters sorta' covers some of the links section on the right-hand side...anybody know how u can fix it?
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replies: text: Got rid of that toolbar template.  They never really work right.  -- fourdee ᛇᚹᛟ 20:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Interesting to see the Nazis apparently including a reference to the Klu Klux Klan in anti American propoganda. You would have thought they would be close buddies. - Streona  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Streona (talk • contribs) 12:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Klu Klux Klan

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message: Please see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Bundesarchiv_as_a_source.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  20:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: How reliable are Nazi propaganda photos?

message: Children's book written in Nazi Germany, intended as propaganda.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.106.3 (talk) 06:00, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Poodle-Pug-Dachshund-Pinscher 

message: This site: [] has a tipical nazi propaganda.This other video: [] has photos, stamps,etc.Agre22 (talk) 22:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tipical nazi propaganda

message: In my opinion, this page does an excellent job at addressing the most prominent points of Nazi propaganda. However, I believe that the page can benefit from discussing some subtler questions and topics. Below are some of my suggestions.
1) Question: What proportion of Nazi propaganda was nationalistic and morale-raising (i.e. uniting the German nation and raising support for war) versus truth-skewing and denigrating (i.e. generating hatred for the Jews)?
2) Emphasize that propaganda was not generalized but was in fact often targeted to specific groups within the German population--for instance, 1) the young (Hitler Youth) and women, with the goal of regulating family life by emphasizing state over family; 2) the labor force, with the goal of generating enough support to power the Nazi regime's enormous war production; 3) the German army, with the goal of indoctrinating them and creating the concept of a "holy war."
3) Discuss other propagandist attacks on the "internal enemies" of the Nazi regime in addition to the Jews (although most prominent and extraordinarily important to discuss in its own right). Some of these groups include the Poles, Russians, and gypsies, in addition to "community aliens" within the German race that were targeted by eugenic ideas and policies.
4) Delve more deeply into the beginnings and causes of Nazi propaganda. This might involve elaborating more on Joseph Goebbels, who was instrumental to the propagandist machine. A related question might be this: Did the sentiments of German society spawn and direct Nazi propaganda or, quite conversely, did the themes of Nazi propaganda inoculate such sentiments into the German population?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowaves121 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: *Why is this picture in the Nazi Propaganda gallery?
:Image:dove.jpg?
*It shows a child in Poland in 2007 petting doves. Venustas 12 (talk) 06:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A child in Poland in 2007 petting doves? Nazi propaganda? 

message: While looking for German propaganda in general (for information about propaganda in WW1), I discovered that the article 'German propaganda' redirects to 'Nazi propaganda'. I'm sorry, but this implies that German = Nazi which is simply not true. I tried to edit it, but could not figure out how. Please could someone change this, as I find it an insult to Germans in general, that have nothing in common with Nazis.
Thanks.--Helena 16:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think the term should redirect somewhere else, or become an article or disambiguation page, you can change that here. If you think the redirect should disappear altogether, that's a case for WP:RFD.  Sandstein  20:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirection from 'German propaganda' 

message: I see a lot of details on types of propaganda, but I lack the interesting part that a serious article would have: 
*what the effects of the propaganda were over time, and how did they differed domestically and internationally. A possible source could be Gordon, Sarah Ann ((March 1, 1984)). Hitler, Germans, and the 'Jewish Question. Princeton University Press. pp. 201–208. .
Sarah Gordon writes that a majority of Germans appeared to approve of nonviolent removal of Jews from civil service and professions and German life.[36] The German public also accepted the Nuremberg laws because they thought they would act as stabilizers and end violence against Jews.[37] The German public had as a result of the Nazi antisemitic propaganda hardened their attitudes between 1935 and 1938 from the originally fairly favorable. By 1938 the propaganda had had effect and antisemitic policies were accepted, provided no violence was involved.[37] The Kristallnacht caused German opposition to antisemitism to peak, with the vast majority of Germans rejecting the violence and destruction, and many Germans aiding the Jews.[37] The Nazis responded by intimidation in order to discourage opposition, those aiding Jews were victims of large scale arrests and intimidation.[37]
*Another aspect of what I lack is how propaganda strengthened morale. The Image to the right shows how the Americans regarded "Morale bombing", and that propaganda was one of the means to encourage resistance. How exactly did the German propaganda keep the German civilian morale alive in the face of the intensive bombing campaign aimed at them and their families? This would be interesting to know, rather than just the dull fact that the pilots were labeled as criminals in propaganda.
*On the subject of bombing, I also miss mention of how propaganda dealt with the "terrorflieger", i.e. not bombs but fighter pilots using their machine-guns to target civilians. US fighter-ace Chuck Yaeger noted in his memoirs that "atrocities were committed by both sides" and went on to recount going on a mission with orders from the Eighth Air Force to "strafe anything that moved". During the mission briefing he whispered to Major Donald H. Boschkay; "if we are going to do things like this, we sure as hell better make sure we are on the winning side". He further noted "I’m certainly not proud of that particular strafing mission against civilians. But it is there, on the record and in my memory." Many bailed out pilots were lynched by outraged civilians, and German authorities were sufficiently concerned by the killings of civilians by Allied fighter-pilots that they considered breaking the Geneva Convention in regards to Allied airmen., Surely the term terrorflieger "Terror-Aviators" must have figured prominently in German propaganda towards the end of the war?
*I also lack a section on the German movie industry. Before the US occupation troops shut it down it was a very impressive and a serious competitor to Hollywood. Naturally the US took the opportunity to kill the competition after the war, but before and during the war German films were shown all across Europe. And this article says nothing about them?
--Stor stark7 Speak 05:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of info on the effects of the propaganda, and other info.

message: I was thinking of inserting for example the two items below, but could not readily see where in the current structure these "positive" propaganda items could fit. Any suggestions for structure, or maybe I've misunderstood "propaganda"?
*Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany
*Strength Through Joy
--Stor stark7 Speak 00:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Strength Through Joy would belong as a subsection under Volksgemeinschaft, insofar as the program was propaganda.Goldfritha (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Structure

message: In view of the size -- I'm thinking of breaking off Nazi propaganda by media and some of the thematic ones, into ones like Nazi propaganda on Great Britain or Nazi racial pride propaganda.Goldfritha (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting

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message: I've just uploaded a picture of a poster which I think could help illustrate this article.
I'm new to editing Wikipedia so any help is more than welcome.
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--Facu89 (talk) 14:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contribution: French poster 

message: These imagess, uploaded 17 August 2007, were deleted 3 May 2014 by User:Werieth on WP:NFG grounds.
In fact they have already survived a 2011 speedy deletion cull. I've reverted Werieth with a request to clarify here. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 01:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There is currently an open discussion at Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review#Nazi_propaganda about this issue.  You may be interested in participating there. Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 01:44, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've just self-reverted. I think the form of the contributing editor overrides here. I was unaware of that when I first reverted. Apologies. I will contribute at the discussion. Thank you. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Really I was just dropping by to let you know. Since two editors both wanted to discuss (a noble way to handle this) and one discussion was more advanced and in a more specific place, I thought it should be known.  Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, thanks. It's a chastening experience. I had no idea. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 02:07, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Textbooks (gallery) 

message: Postcards as Nazi propaganda are not mentioned. I'd have thought they were important given that they could be posted overseas.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.9.151.254 (talk) 13:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi Postcards 

message: your addition is correct. I was thinking though of removing "and thus guarantee their continued loyalty through fear by Nazi-conjectured scenarios of supposed post-war Allied reprisals" as it seems to be covered by the quote following (if it's not too unclear.) Also, I think post-war Jewish reprisals were more specifically focused on than Allied. zzz (talk) 02:48, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This is very interesting. Appreciate the swift reply. I'm thinking that the following quote is a bit vague. It really deserves a section expansion. We could cautiously add the Morgenthau Plan and the obscure privately published pamphlet that was circulated in the U.S. in 1941 (the author's name escapes me at the moment) that G seized on and cynically blew up into some vast "Allied-Jewish" official policy. The sources are out there but we need to be cautious in wording. We do not want to inflame the crazies. Thoughts welcomed. Irondome (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fear of reprisals 

message: I added the "Expand lead" the article. The material is great, but the lead is way too short, not providing an adequate overview of the subject. If someone would be willing to expand it, that would be great!  K.e.coffman (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead  

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replies: text: Propaganda in Nazi Germany →  – WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and most importantly WP:PRECISE—the article is discussing the propaganda of the Nazi Party throughout its existence, even before it established Nazi Germany in 1933. The article does not discuss Allied propaganda in Nazi Germany, i.e. broadcast or leaflets. Proposed title more accurately states what the article is about. buidhe 08:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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message: I restored the prior image in this edit; my rationale was: "Image of the Propaganda Minister is more appropriate in the lead, vs a random antisemitic poster". --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:49, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image 

message: This film was propaganda intended for the German people.50.111.44.55 (talk) 08:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would add a brief mention of Kolberg 

message: I found this. I believe in many situations it is not preferable to cite master's degree theses, but this may link to resources which would be useful in further developing the article:
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The biliography is on pages 163-164, or PDF pages 166-167/168
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thread_title:  Master's degree thesis which may be used to find more sources 

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message: This page describes mostly propaganda in Reich: 
*The Netherlands is not mentioned. 
*France is mentioned in Books,Comics, External broadcasts. 
*Belgium - External broadcasts.
*Norway - Newspapers in occupied countries.
*Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia - nothing. Theresienstadt Ghetto was used for general propaganda.
*Ukraine is mentioned only in one short subsection Newspapers in occupied countries.
Xx236 (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Propaganda in Nazi Germany =/= Nazi propaganda. We need two articles, obviously. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi propaganda outside the Reich 

message: I have added two titles and YV source, the films should be described. Xx236 (talk) 09:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitic films 

message: I have removed  "More than 60 Norwegian newspaper editors were executed and 3000 were sent to concentration camps." The referenced text does not support it. Xx236 (talk) 14:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced