Talk:Bamfield

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was no consensus. Defaults to no move. JPG-GR (talk) 16:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not worried about a surname, for the same reason that Vancouver isn't DABbed due to George Vancouver, nor is Paris DABbed due to Paris Hilton (that last one is a bit tongue-in-cheek - :) ).   As Bearcat rightly alluded in his comment above, we are usually cautious in assuming a Canadian place name is unique, due to the common practice at the time of naming new Canadian settlements after places in Europe, even sometimes obscure places in Europe.  That is unlikely to be a concern here, because the community was (mis)named after a local government official.  I wasn't saying that there are no other uses of the Bamfield name -- which is why I did a google search and concluded that this settlement appears to easily be the primary use of the name (with all due apologies to Agnes and Thomas Bamfield in Devon, England).  Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to say, Skookum1, that the wiki standard for settlements is not as you have described it, except perhaps for American place names.  If you look worldwide, the majority of articles on settlements, even small ones, use dismabiguation only where necessary.  And, yes, there remain a number of Canadian places that still have unnecessary disambiguation, but the fact remains that a naming convention has evolved since those articles were created, and those article titles will be revisited in time.  And DoubleBlue hits the nail on the head when he reminds us that disambiguators are not meant to be précis of the article - they are merely intended to distinguish between articles.  Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside PS aih't it strange, Bearcat, that I'd be saying this now after my history re the Kamloops name thing? :-) Skookum1 (talk) 07:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *All that is prefaced by "For neighbourhoods which do not qualify for undisambiguated titles". DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, Skookum1, but you appear to have completely misinterpreted the neighbourhoods section of WP:CSG - you missed the beginning part that states that neighbourhoods are subject to the same disambiguation rules as any other settlement or city, and WP:CSG discusses whether a neighbourhood should be DAB'ed by the municipality or the province only in instances where disambiguation is necessary. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Dismabiguation is not intended to provide background information on the article subject -- its sole purpose is to distinguish the article from other articles with the same name where a conflict may arise.  Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The naming convention only requires that it be a unique place name.  In any event, the point of disambiguation is to resolve conflicts between article titles.  A surname, let alone what appears to be (from a Google search) a very uncommon one, does not necessitate disambiguation. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if it were Skeezixburg, that'st pretty unique; but Bamfield is obvioulys someone's name or it wouldn't have been applied to the map here; and there's a story why, and likely a story behind the Mr. Bamfield in question, and experience has taught me that just because you can't google somethign easiliy doesn't mean there's not something farther in there.  Bamfield is hardly the most unique of BC placenames, given its Anglo-Saxon-ness vs some that are much more obscure; myself I think the "only disambiguate if not unique" is over-applied and also poorly-thought-out as a guideiine to start with.  I repeat - it's inevitable that the Mr. Bamfield this spot is named after will have an article.  The place wouldn't have been named for him if he weren't notable in some way.  Whosever he was.Skookum1 (talk) 13:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: You should really re-read the whole discussion.  Bamfield is not named for anyone.  It's a mispelling.  But even if it was, there would be no conflict, unless someone by the name of Bamfield went by one name only, like Cher.  Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Comment  Worth noting that Ucluelet, British Columbia is that way despite you'd think it was an ancient native name for the location; no, it's the name of the people there, their village has a diffeernt name; it doesn't get the comma-British Columbia format because it predates, or is "outside of", British Columbia in native cultural terms; this is by no means consistent, admittedly, partly because postal addresses or other qualifying info like shipping landings or IR names validate the comma-format usage; in ancient-village cases the names have come int ob eing eitehr standalone - Eslahan, Sta7mes - or in thte form Tanu (Haida village); some that, again were also shipping/postal locations like Cumehewa, Briitsh Columbia and New Clew, British Columbia because distinctions have to be made in the one case with Cumshewa, and in the other with "Old Kloo", i.e. Tanu (not quite the same place and New Clew is the current legal/map name.  Like Ucluelet, other indigenous placenames like Tasu, British Columbia involve non-native history and were both postal addresses and steamboat landings, and/or remain in the provincial gazette.  What I'm getting at is we even do t his for indigenous placenames, whatever their application, for places that are just like Bamfield or other Anglo-Saxon-named communities.Skookum1 (talk) 02:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: *Support page move. This appears to be a unique name, and satisfies WP:CANSTYLE and WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. The existence of people with this surname is not sufficient to prevent such a move, since their full names may appear on a disambiguation page which is itself linked from this article. Mindmatrix 15:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
I caught a Halibut as big as the dining room table, that's quite unique
24.36.113.50 (talk) 01:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: This article claims "the Bamfield cable station was constructed as the western terminus of a worldwide undersea telegraph cable" ... shouldn't that be "eastern"?  The cable headed west to Australia/NZ. 208.65.64.18 (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western terminus?