Talk:Gun turret

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Gun mounts not on the centerline would be assigned odd numbers on the port side and even numbers on the starboard side. For example, Mount 52 would be the forwardmost 5" gun mount on the port side of the ship. 
These two sentences seem contradictory - either even must be port side or the mount 52 should be starboard? Mobeer (talk) 10:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Turret Naming 

message: Replaced ye olde square o'doom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Battleship_turret_layout.PNG) with something that actually looks like a turret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Battleship_Turret.PNG) If it's too small, I can resize it, I just felt a need to replace the box. Anomaly 00:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turret Diagram 

message: I see no merit in having a separate article for a wing turret, which is really just one particular arrangement of a gun turret. It can be better covered by putting it in the main article. Emoscopes Talk 18:15, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: The Martin B-10 introduced turret-mounted defensive armament within the United States Army Air Corps, nearly a year ahead of the Overstrand, with a power-operated nose turret.
Is this statement credible, given that the articles on these aircraft indicate they entered service in the same year (1934) ?Catsmeat (talk) 09:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: IIRC, the Martin B-10's turret was unpowered, i.e., hand operated, but I could be wrong, although I seem to remember that the Argentine Air Force received some B-10s and their turrets were unpowered. Boulton Paul were among the leaders in powered turret design. While they may have been developing them, the US had no powered turrets on it's aircraft until after they received technology from Boulton Paul and Nash & Thomson (Frazer Nash) from the UK. See the early Fortresses, Liberators, Bostons, etc. The gun positions on US aircraft were generally the same as on contemporary German designs, i.e., hand operated, and I don't think I've ever seen a US aircraft with a recognisable power-operated turret in any picture taken before Pearl Harbor, and the RAF's Fortresses (B-17C/Ds) were un-equipped. The power-operated aircraft gun turret was, along with many others, one of the technologies transferred to the US by the Tizard Mission, and subsequently Martin did perhaps become the US' leading manufacturer, along with Briggs-Sperry. IIRC, Boulton Paul turrets were installed on early Liberators when they arrived in the UK, and were the first Liberators so-armed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.251.199 (talk) 22:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Aircraft Turrets

message: *Oppose, weapon mount is barely a dictionary entry. It might be useful as a jumping off point for other articles, but given the extent of coverage of the gun turret possible there is little point in merging to just spin off again later. GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge to weapon mount? 

message: . . . are not the same thing as tanks. Whilst it is true that the Renault FT was the first operational tank with a turret (and tanks with turrets had been designed previously but not manufactured), turrets were quite common on armoured cars before World War One, and they were combat vehicles.
79.70.82.28 (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Little Willie" was designed form the start with a turret but it was never fitted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.55.68 (talk) 09:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Combat Vehicles

message: About my edit unlinking Samokhodnaya ustanovka, please read what I wrote on the Casemate talk page. Thanks. — Gorthian (talk) 06:24, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, hence why I've already removed the  Andy Dingley (talk) 07:58, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good start! Thanks. Check the talk page there, where I stashed some text in anticipation of an article. — Gorthian (talk) 17:33, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samokhodnaya ustanovka 

message: Section 2.2 makes reference to a "rotating drum," indicating that it was discussed previously. As I was am unfamiliar with the expression, I looked back but couldn't find any other reference to "rotating drum."  If this is a reference to a older version and that material has been removed, maybe the language in 2.2 should be tweaked.  
--Nkuzmik (talk) 15:28, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the clearest article. The first "rotating drum" or "cheesebox" turrets were mounted on the deck.  As guns became larger, elevating them required that they had to lower their breeches lower than the deck level. Also they needed more turret armour than the simple drum turrets could provide. So turrets were replaced by barbettes: open pits with heavily armoured, fixed walls. A deck within this mount rotated with the guns. These were unprotected from above though, so were exposed to fire from the developing technique of exploding shells and shrapnel. Thus they were protected by the gunhouse; this looked like a turret and rotated with the guns, but was of quite different origin. As the guns moved to breech loading, the trunk developed as a series of decks within the barbette, rotating as part of the mount. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undefined terminology 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved. Clear consensus against the proposed move. A merge of missile turret can be discussed separately. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 10:55, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Gun turret →  – Missile turret, is very short and should be merged here. It is not a useful distinction. Schierbecker (talk) 07:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 4 February 2022 

message: This article, like the Monitor article, does seem to perpetuate the idea, possibly just through poor communication, that the 160-ton Timble/Ericsson turret was actually jacked up so that the base of the turret left the main deck and rose above it prior to being able to rotate. That's certainly how it reads.
A reasonable understanding of the structure of the turret will indicate to any informed person that this is a nonsensical idea - unfortunately, we have to assume that most readers coming here to learn will not be familiar at a detailed level, if at all, with the structure of the turret. In this case, the following must be considered misleading:
"Including the guns, the turret weighed approximately 160 long tons (163 t); the entire weight rested on an iron spindle that had to be jacked up using a wedge before the turret was free to rotate."
(The Mariner's Museum which holds the actual Monitor turret along with reconstructions and replicas - full-scale ones - seems to agree by virtue of their displays that the iron spindle only ever extended to the main beam at the base of the Monitor's turret, by the way. Photographs of the Museum's turret reconstruction show this extraordinarliy clearly.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.26.58 (talk) 00:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monitor's turret