Talk:The Fat Controller

message: Argh, the "hit save, get preview" bug strikes again. Try again. Here follows the text I removed from the article:
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"Fat Controller Magazine"
Fat Controller is the UK's National Student Magazine and was formed by a young Scottish entrepreneur, Douglas Bell in 2004. Fat Controller is at the helm of British student media, publishing 30,000 copies per month and distributing throughout the UK using an enormous network of volunteer students.
Fat Controller challenges established media practice in that it's contents is exclusively supplied by the readership - undergraduates and post-graduates at the UK's top ranked universities. Fat Controller's "fully interactive" feature has made it an instant success with students and is thrusting the publication to the forefront of youth culture.
The magazine is managed by three Durham graduates (Douglas Bell (Law), Rob Pain (Chemistry) and Alex Hodgkinson (Economics)) who set out aspiring to take student media to new heights. Editorial includes student travel, politics, music, media, and careers. Controvesy has surrounded Fat Controller Magazine from it's outset; in it's pilot issue, editorial included a call for the abolition of the National Uninon of Students, branding the troubled organisation as "thoroughly useless", "illegitimate" and "out of touch". In a characteristically bold move, Fat Controller's following issue published figures on the lack of graduate employment prospects, detailing a stormy forecast for the UK's graduate employment market to current university undergraduates.
Fat-Controller.com
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All of this is puffery or comes without references. I don't think "challenges established media practice" is really necessary as a gloss for "it's contents is exclusively supplied by the readership" [sic both "it's" and "contents is"]; despite a claim of "monthly in term-term" on the website, the latest content there seems to be the article which followed the pilot issue; and there are no cites for the claims of "the" national student magazine. I have certainly never seen it in the local university, but perhaps we're not sufficiently top-ranked to get it.
--Telsa 13:50, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: I can find no external verification for the ACLU v. Fat Controller comment, or whatever you'd call it.  I've removed it.  If true, please reinsert but I'd wencourage more specific details that ACLU successdfully argued in 1989.  Was this in a court?  Which court?  Is there public record?
Alexa411 21:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no ACLU case, see http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1002141904  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.232.34 (talk) 15:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

text: See Controversy section below -- EdJogg (talk) 14:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: ACLU

message: Is Lady Hatt (nee Jane Brown) related to Sir Handel Brown the owner of the Skarloey Railway?
And has no one on Sodor ever heard of nepotism? Penrithguy 16:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sodors Family Railways 

message: What is the story of the link to the image at the top of the page? Would it not be better to display an image internally, and if so does one exist? If not what is the legal status of uploading an Image of the Fat Controller either scanned in from one of the books or captured from the DVD?
--Oliver Lane 15:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: I think this article should be changed to Sir Tophamm Hatt, since that's his real name. 65.103.84.79
:The STH link redirects to this article already. Also, TFC is the UK terminology, and considering that it is from a UK series, it is the most correct. Thehalford 02:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name change

message: Someone keeps writing that the Fat Controller has appeared "dorky" in recent seasons. First of all, that's not the sort of language that should be used in an article. Secondly, it's an opinion more than anything else. HonestTom 22:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dorky?

message: how do you edit the references section? the internet is hard  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.1.133 (talk) 22:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Cry for help

message: I recall overhearing on of the kids watching the program, did Topham Hat invent a bridge design or something of that magnitude as an engineer?
Also, was he knighted that he's earned to sobriquet Sir?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.183.231 (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he's a baronet. Marnanel (talk) 16:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor? 

message: The Dowager Hatt does not refer to her son Sir Topham Hatt as Bertram but is instead talking to Bertie the Bus who was supposed to have collected her that day but instead went for a 'steamie tour' of Sodor with Thomas.
This was actually series 15 'Stop That Bus'
81.96.51.250 (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography (television series) Series 14 episode 18 

message: A cameo is "a small character part in a play or movie, played by a distinguished actor or a celebrity." Fictional characters are not actors or celebrities. Therefore, they do not have cameos.
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While we are at it, characters who are "mentioned" but did not appear in an episode should not be mentioned under "Appearances" because these mentions without appearing are not appearances. - SummerPhDv2.0 15:29, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cameo" 

message: has recently proposed deletion for the articles about various minor characters in Awdry's Railway series. Most of these, including the current :Percy the Small Engine and :Henry the Green Engine seem reasonable in that :List of characters in The Railway Series can suffice. The present article may be more questionable. As well as describing the character in the stories, the term "The Fat Controller" does get used more widely: several usages are summarised in the "Other uses" section of the article; the term is also used in, for example, recent article in The Economist  and the Daily Telegraph  (both paywalled). AllyD (talk) 13:24, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that the term is more widely used may merit its inclusion in wiktionary, perhaps, but if it is not analyzed or discussed it is not notable. See also Wikipedia:Notability (neologisms) and of course Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:18, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Prodding is not appropriate, however. Prodding is for blatant rubbish, not for well-written and researched articles into which editors have put a lot of work, whether you may think they're non-notable or not. However, it seems to be increasingly used as a way to avoid AfD, and that's not acceptable. Articles like this deserve discussion before deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't call Henry or Percy "minor". They're part of the "Steam Team" and would usually be considered major protagonists. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course they aren't minor. But with the attempted culling of as many Railway Series articles as possible words matter. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query on notability 

message: I mean, seriously its huge. Probably what most people know about him. Yet you wouldn’t know he has this super power from the article. Kairos (talk) 06:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fat Controller can banish trains to the shadowlands! Why doesn’t the article mention this?