Talk:List of Peruvian Navy ships

message: This is quite a good list at the moment, but would greatly benefit from expansion to cover the pre-Second World War Peruvian Navy.
===Existing things that can be corrected===
*The links in the article headings, i.e. to destroyer, cruiser, etc should be removed.
*The method for including a ship's service with another navy should be standardised, i.e. the 'cruiser' section brought into line with the destroyer, etc sections and displayed on one line rather than two.
*Where appropriate the class names should be italicised where they take their name from a specific ship, i.e. Daring class.
*The full name of ships should be linked together, including the prefix, so HMS Diana not HMS Diana.
===Suggestions on expansion===
*The introduction could be expanded.  I'd at least explain the origin and meaning of the prefix BAP.  It might also be useful to mention any specific ship naming conventions, such as if capital ships are named after Admirals or Peruvian naval heroes, but destroyers are named after Peruvian cities, etc.  List of Canadian Navy ships shows this in action to some degree.
*It's not a particular issue at the moment, but if expanded it might be helpful to break down the list by periods of service.  So perhaps open with current navy ships, then ships that formed the first fleets, etc.  How you structure this is up to you, but again see List of Canadian Navy ships for this in practice.  This helps the reader trace the development of the navy, and find a specific ship more easily.
*If/when you've done the above you could introduce the section with a brief explanation of navy developments in that period and how this affected the types and numbers of ships in service.  List of ships of the line of the Royal Navy shows this to some degree, but you could also mention why post war ships were mostly bought second hand from other navies, etc.  Just a suggestion.
*Sourcing tends not to be a particular issue with these sorts of pages.  If you wanted to be particularly attentive, you could footnote each individual ship, but I wouldn't worry unduly about that.  More references would be good, but as you intend to expand the scope of the article I'm sure you have this well in hand.
Best of luck, the South American navies were quite significant regionally, so it's good to see this one getting some more attention! Feel free to ask if there's anything you want clarifying or expanding on.  When you're done working on it I'd be happy to take another look at it. Benea (talk) 04:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: *The introduction could be expanded.  I'd at least explain the origin and meaning of the prefix BAP.  It might also be useful to mention any specific ship naming conventions, such as if capital ships are named after Admirals or Peruvian naval heroes, but destroyers are named after Peruvian cities, etc.  List of Canadian Navy ships shows this in action to some degree.
*It's not a particular issue at the moment, but if expanded it might be helpful to break down the list by periods of service.  So perhaps open with current navy ships, then ships that formed the first fleets, etc.  How you structure this is up to you, but again see List of Canadian Navy ships for this in practice.  This helps the reader trace the development of the navy, and find a specific ship more easily.
*If/when you've done the above you could introduce the section with a brief explanation of navy developments in that period and how this affected the types and numbers of ships in service.  List of ships of the line of the Royal Navy shows this to some degree, but you could also mention why post war ships were mostly bought second hand from other navies, etc.  Just a suggestion.
*Sourcing tends not to be a particular issue with these sorts of pages.  If you wanted to be particularly attentive, you could footnote each individual ship, but I wouldn't worry unduly about that.  More references would be good, but as you intend to expand the scope of the article I'm sure you have this well in hand.
Best of luck, the South American navies were quite significant regionally, so it's good to see this one getting some more attention! Feel free to ask if there's anything you want clarifying or expanding on.  When you're done working on it I'd be happy to take another look at it. Benea (talk) 04:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions on expansion

message: copied from User_talk:Cloudaoc
Were the 1850s steam frigates BAP Callao and the BAP Apurimac the same ship?  The following website suggests that they were not, but the Spanish wikipedia article on BAP Apurimac says that Apurimac was renamed Callao for a while and then reverted to Apurimac.
More old Peruvian ships, page 4, two of the best ships of the 1850s
--Toddy1 (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the frigates Apurimac and Callao are the same ship; the Apurimac was briefly renamed in the Ecuadorian Campaign (the prefix BAP appears in the XX century), Juan del Carpio is a Peruvian naval historian and his works (mainly books) are excellent sources, but his web is a little chaotic and as far I know, the title of the page TWO OF THE BEST SHIPS OF THE 1850´S is the origin of the confusion. The Spanish Wiki is right. Greetings --Cloudaoc (talk) 21:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Peruvian steam frigates of the 1850s

message: Well, this article is full of wrong data, Conway's is not an accurate source for the historic ship of the Peruvian Navy, specially for the ships prior to 1884, I'm short of time in this moment but I'll suggest than use of Peruvian sources, like the book "Historia Naval del Perú" instead of the mentioned encyclopedia. Greetings. -Cloudaoc (talk) 13:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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