Talk:Cinco de Mayo/Archive 1

message: Given that the last 50 edits are all anon vandalism, is it time to semi-protect this page. jmj 23:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: AGREE! There is actualy no more constructive contribution to give to this article. It should be locked!!--Magi Media 03:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editors! Please lock this article! 

message: This article undergoes a great deal of vandalism near the May 5th date. We request all editors be vigilant year round and remove extraneous remarks that add no value to the content of the article, especially racist remarks. Thank You! Magi Media 03:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The vandalism doesn't seem to be confined to the 5th of May time period either. Why not put a temporary block on editing this article? Alcarillo 21:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please watch this article for vandalism 

message: Maximillian was not related to Napoleon III. Please fix this factual error.
:Maybe not directly — but I thought I read he was the husband of a niece of a of a cousin, something like that. I don't think he was a random selection. Magi Media 13:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maximillian Bonaparte?

message: ... or is this posting just a little bit racist? 
Now, I'm no bleeding-heart Liberal, but don't you think: 
- labelling Mexicans using the slur "wetbacks" and 
- referring to the stereotype of "drinking tequila, screaming unintelligable slogans, and shooting guns into the air" 
is vaguely inappropriate when explaining what some would consider a national holiday?
If I had more knowledge on the subject, I'd edit the posting. However, I don't.... so can I appeal for someone else to??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacka16 (talk • contribs) 
:This page is suffering serious vandalism today.  I'll go check to see if it got hit again.  GRBerry 18:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Am I crazy? 

message: Quote: "French people are not allowed to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.". Seriously, this article has had it all. It was one thing when people over-emphasized and even dimished it (i.e. "Peasants with machetes"), but I'm all for strict and enforced NPOV, so anyone care remove/elaborate on this new piece of rubbish? Heck, I'm a native mexican myself and am very proud of the battle incident and celebration, but even I will admit it's unfair to just toss "French people" in there. Granted there exists such a ban, it is very well in place to be more specific as to who it applies, e.g. French nationals/French immigrants and whether residing in Puebla/residing in US? Oleksandr 06:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "''French People''" 

message: As you probably will notice while you read this I am Mexican (spanish-mexican),5 de mayo is definitely not a representative Mexican holiday; when I read about the strategy and tactics used in the fight, the gallantry of those men fighting against the unbeatable legionaries and regular French Army, I feel myself proud of my country men, however that's because I am Mexican, I like history and war events but celebrate that date is for Mexican's as much as Chapultepec's battle in September 13th against US Army, or July 1st when the Mexicans fought and won against Hernan Cortes and his Spanish troops. If the people in US found 5 de mayo as a day to identify themselves with their roots that's fine, sometimes is Mexico when the national football team wins a match is almost a national holiday, but we must stay clear in the fact that 5 de mayo is an important day just for the people in the states, if American, European, African or Asian guys want to be part of the celebration that's great because "Is a day to get party in the US". I have celebrated St Patricks Day's twice, I went to an Irish Pub (here en Mexico city) get drunk with a couple Guiness, and none of the English guys around my had a complain about me because I was celebrating in that important day for them... what did I say?? English? wrong right? No offense I am trying clarify that sometime we don’t know why is the reason of a celebration, in fact I was not really sure if they were Irish, Scottish, English, Germans, French, Americans or Mexicans, we were all celebrating must of us with no idea why we were doing so. Upon the euphoria my girlfriend asked me why is SPD celebrated and I was unable to answer her, I feel ashamed of myself then I decided to check wiki because I felt that it was a quite strange being drunk having no idea why. Anyway some  facts about the Battle of Puebla would be nice to see in the article, for example there were indians with machetes fighting against Suavos, the Zacapoaxtlas indians (and other Puebla's native groups)formed a battalion recruited by the Mexican Army, indeed they were fighting with carabins and machetes, this wasn't a disadvantage because  they knew perfectly their surroundings of course they were not the main force but guerrilla warfare was used, much like the Vietnamise recruited by green berets against Viet-Cong. I would like to add this kind of information about the battle but first of all as you probably have realized I must improve my English.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Skull13 (talk • contribs) 
:I think Skull had a few too many before he wrote this!!--Magi Media 06:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have information to add about the battle, please add it to Battle of Puebla if it is not there already. This article is about the US celebration.--Rockero 19:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree I'm married to one..he thought it was an American holiday..he was so ignorant about the history..never knew about the French. --Rosa 04:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment directly from Mexico 

message: I am a history student attending a university located near Cancun in a ciudad called Herradura. As an elective I chose a course on Counterfactual history.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_history) Ancient text found at many worship sites have made mention of the birth of a savior who would bring the mexican peasants to an age of Leche e Miel <Milk and Honey> The legends are simliar to those of the Catholic belief. Sadly the birthing did not go as one would hope and the birth mother passed. To top it off the child was born with physical defects. This obviously was unacceptable by those who chose to belive. For the fact that this miracle child would not be less than perfect. They moved to another room and decided since the mother had passed that it would be best to destroy the child and tell the masses that the child was taken to a place where it would be taught the ways of an avatar. This way they could keep the "hope alive". One of the women who was there as a mid wife heard this in disbelief and quickly wisked the child away. This did not matter to those with the belief as the problem they had encountered had "solved itself" and the masses were told the child who would save them was born and they all celebrated with happiness in there hearts the date of this was May 5th. Unfortunately, The mid wife being past her prime was unable to nurse the child properly. In order to keep the child healthy she would in the night creep to local farms and milk the goats so that she could nourish the child. This however did not give the child the nourishment it needed. The mid wife tried one more thing to mix protien rich blood with the milk. A newborn child needs many feedings and the constant blood letting of the mid wife was taking its toll.  Although the childs strength had grown the mid wife had been getting older and eventually passed leaving the mishapen child to fend for itself. Being raised on goats milk and blood, the child needing milk had found its way to a local farm and tried to suckle a mother goat. The goat would not stand still and the child on accident grasping the mother goat had cased the goat to fall on something < a branch or a farm tool maybe> and the goat was killed. The child began to suck on the mother goats udder as now the animal was no longer moving. The farmer hearing the odd noises coming from his yard came outside to see a misshapen child covered in blood nursing itself on his goat. He was terrified and staggered back into his farmhouse. When his wife asked him what was wrong all he could say was Chuppa kabra. So May 5th is the celebrating Chuppa Kabra's Birthday.
:I am not a fan of history revisionism (alternative history). I am also very suspicious of stories that begin: "An ancient text found near a long-lost burial site..." Just go straight to: "Once upon a time..." The above story is horrorific. Let's tell the one about the boy raised by wolves again. And so much for a college degree from Cancun!--Magi Media 13:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternative History