Talk:Kashmiri language

message: The article says Persian scripts. It is not clear which scripts are meant (if several). Only the Persian Arabic script?
--Imz 17:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  on the remote possibility you are still interested fifteen years later, the consonants appear to be identical to the Urdu alphabet.Irtapil (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small expansion required: be more specific about ''Persian scripts'' 

message: Kashmiri is surely an Aryan language like Punjabi but very dissimilar from Punjabi. A Punjabi can not understand Kashmiri. While the language spoken outside the Valley in Mirpur, etc. is very close to Punjabi.'''
The insertion of Punjabi or Sindhi into Kashmir is a big political game being played by some foreigners. All know who they are. Many languages in India and neighborhood have Aryan origin thus have similarities. However, Kashmiri is very close to Rigvedic Sanskrit. A Kashmiri can not for example understand Punjabi or vice versa. The Kashmiri language is an Aryan language. By large pretty close to Rig-vedic Sanskrit. There are however minor differences between the language spoken by Hindus and the Muslims in the Valley. After the arrival of Islam it picked up some Arabic words which Muslims tend to use more often than Hindus. Example a Muslim refers to fire as Nar, while a traditional Hindu refers to it as Agun. The Muslim uses the word Safar for travel again a traditional Hindu uses the word Yatra. Some commonly used words in Kashmiri language; nov-new, nas-nose,and-end, lot-light, pod-footstep, nangu-naked, achh-eye, dand-tooth,domb-womb, zut-cut, shurt-short, pad-feet, badnaam-badname, Lalla-Lullaby, etc. Thus very pure Aryan in origin/fontKASHMIRI LANGUAGE AND RIGVEDIC SANSKRIT  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.173 (talk) 18:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)]] 

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation--D-Boy 19:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  translators needed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation]] 

message: Kashmiri was usually counted as being Indo-Aryan. But according to the article it's not? --Maurice45 (talk) 20:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dardic languages bear similarities to Indo-Aryan languages because they ARE Indo-Aryan languages. They are an archaic branch of IA which have preserved many elements of OIA which no longer exist in other IA languages. It's only the Nuristani (formerly Kafiri) languages which were eventually split off to form their own branch. Contemporary linguists agree that there's absolutely no controversy with regards to Kashmiri, or the rest of the Dardic languages, being part of the Indo-Aryan family Theudariks 2.0 (talk) 15:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  not Indo-Aryan? 

message: In the main article the name کٲشُر appears odd in my browser (Opera). The damma (U+064F) doesn't display properly. It looks like an í (i with acute). Is anyone else experience similar mojibake effects?—Strabismus (talk) 01:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autonym orthography 

message: A Vocabulary of the Kashmírí Language: In Two Parts : Kashmírí-English, and English-Kashmírí By William Jackson Elmslie
http://books.google.com/books?id=yZACAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
A grammar of the Kashmīrī language: as spoken in the valley of Kashmīr, North India By Thomas Russell Wade
http://books.google.com/books?id=sh4YAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
A Dictionary of Kashmiri Proverbs & Sayings: Explained and Illustrated from the Rich and Interesting Folklore of the Valley By James Hinton Knowles
http://books.google.com/books?id=PV4UAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
A dictionary of Kashmiri proverbs, explained by J.H. Knowles By Kashmiri proverbs
http://books.google.com/books?id=n_MIAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Kaçmiraçabdamrta; a Kaçmiri grammar written in the Sanskrit language (1898)
https://archive.org/details/kamiraabdamr00isvauoft
A dictionary of the Kashmiri language . Compiled partly from materials left by the late Pandita Isvara Kaula. Assisted by Mahamahopadhyaya Mukundarama Sastri (1916)
https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofkash01grieuoft
Gulzr-i Kashmr (1873)
https://archive.org/details/gulzrikashmr00rainuoft
Rajmaan (talk) 23:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on Kashmiri language 

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message: I have moved the "Writing systems" section down because the huge alphabet tables were swamping the article. I also notice that all these tables seem to be recent script-warring by IP editors, with no sources, no explanatory text or any discussion. Unless somebody can explain to me why these script tables are needed, I propose to delete them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:27, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The same as anonymous editors. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing systems 

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message: The table describing the Kashmiri vowels uses a combination of characters for ॲ (but not for ऑ). The combination is अ + ॅ [U+0905 DEVANAGARI LETTER A + U+0945 DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN CANDRA E]. This is clearly an error - no normalisation process makes those equivalent, since they represent different syllables.
R12a (talk) 10:02, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: has this been fixed yet? if not, can you edit the table? if there's a reason you can't edit the table, can you explain bit further, so i can edit it, i don't quite understand what you mean. Irtapil (talk) 15:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect code sequence 

message: The tables create the positional forms using the extension character U+0640 Arabic Tatweel, but tatweel doesn't work in some fonts, including "Urdu typesetting", the most common font connected to the nastaliq template. I tried swapping for a zero width joiner, but some of the letters themselves aren't even in the fonts assigned to the nastaliq template. i might try just removing the nastaliq formatting templates to see if it works better in whatever it defaults to. Irtapil (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  some characters don't work in the assigned fonts 

message: This page has become extremely verbose providing too much detail. I'd suggest moving certain sections to different pages altogether, like the ones on the various scripts which are long tables, and shortening the ones detailing grammar. Another worthwhile approach is to provide a summary of the phonology, grammar, and scripts here and have separate pages for all of these with as much detail as is required. At the very least, the tables should be properly formatted and not be this long. Sinonquoi (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extremely verbose page, needs shortening 

message: This page has somehow acquired huge tables, making it entirely unreadable. Can somebody get them under control? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables gotten out of hand 

message: Make a list of the language mentioned by Amir khusrsu . Prepare another list of names of language spoken today in the region be mentioned.underline names that are similar and circle those that are different. 2409:4073:4E94:596C:79B1:4733:46AC:48DF (talk) 12:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Cambridge Scholars Publishers is a predatory/vanity press, and should not be cited. Iranica Online is already there, we don't need another less reliable source for the same information.  Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  CSP: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kashmiri_language&oldid=prev&diff=1097069248 diff] 

message: Hey! It would be nice to get some clarification on the phonology section in this article. I know sourcing for languages is often hard, but I'm intrigued by the just passing mention of palatalization; to my mind that's a pretty major language feature, yet it isn't alluded to anywhere in the rest of the article besides the table entry for the gol yayuk letter. 67.82.172.25 (talk) 07:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phonology clarification