Talk:Bison

message: The "brown bear" wikipedia page says that a brown bear can kill a buffalo in "a single blow". I personally have been having a year long argument with my wife that buffalo are, clearly, more dangerous then bears. I would like input.
In my oppion buffalo could easily kill a bear or at least escape it. Even though Bears have a good amount of spead, a buffalo could easily get away. A Buffalo would easily outsize a Bear.
Dragonrider27 (talk) 17:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buffalo vs. bear 

message: There does not appear to be a page for the genus Bison.  Would it not be better to move this page to Bison (disambiguation) and then make this the genus page? — Pekinensis 04:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How is this not the Bison genus article? — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: Can we merge this with African Buffalo66.97.206.81 16:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they're completely different animals, so doing that would violate policy (1 subject per article). — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with African Buffalo 

message: Quote from article: "Bison are distinct from buffalo."  Could somebody explain why, other than they haven't been domesticated?
Here's some research I've done:
*  says, "There is no difference. Bison is the scientific name and it's really bison-bison; but we all know the common name as buffalo. It's sort of like comparing canine to dog, or feline to cat (does that make sense?)."
*  Frank says, "Technically, a bison (Bison bison) is the type of hebivorous hoofed animal of the Bovine family found in the US, Europe and a few other areas but a buffalo is anatomically different. Bison have a well developed hump over the sholders but bufflao lack that. Bison have fairly thick coats but buffalo Bubalus bubalus) have little hair (except as juveniles) and either take mud baths or dust baths to protect their skin from sun burn. Bison horns are relatively small compared to buffalo that can reach five feet or more from tip to tip. Most buffalo can be domesticated (except for the Cape Buffalo of Southern Africa which is a very dangerous animal) but bison do not even tame well."
Some other questions I have: Why is this difference important? To show you're more educated or have studied biology? Is this prescriptive vocabulary - similar to trying to teach people the difference between "among" and "between" when the difference is not really important?
--Dblomgren 05:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're completely different types of animal.  North Amerians just frequently misapply the term "buffalo" to bison.  We don't "all" do that; Europeans know the difference.  Anyway, this and related articles make the difference clearer now. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Different genus even. This is an encyclopedia and people come here for definitions. Kortoso (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bison vs. buffalo? 

message: Does the word "bison" really need to be capitalized? I know it's a genus thing, but when I'm reading about bison, I'm reading about the animal, not the genus. I'm going to look up "cat" and if it's capitalized, I'm going to have kittens! --Dblomgren 05:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found this Wikipage  that basically says there's no standard policy on capitalizaton of common species names. I'm going to be bold and uncapitalize the word bison. If anyone objects, let me know. --DBlomgren 03:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See MOS:LIFE. It should only ever be capitalized when it is also italicized as a specific reference to the genus, as such, in taxonomy. When less formally speaking of the general type of animals we call bison (and which often get miscalled "buffalo" in North American English), do not capitalized. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalized "Bison"

message: On March 16, 2007, 15 American bison were re-introduced to Colorado to roam where they did over a century ago. A herd of 15 bison has been established in the 17,000-acre (69 km²) Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge, a former chemical weapons manufacturing site.
This is confusing... does each sentence refer to the same herd or to a different one? -Rolypolyman 13:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Colorado reintroduction confusing

message: What is the bison's Habitat?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.232.18 (talk) 23:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It varies by species and ecotype.  This is one of many reasons this article needs to be redone in summary style, drawing salient facts from the better-developed articles on the actual species and ecotypes. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:40, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Habitat

message: The American bison was, 200 years ago, the most numerous large land animal that ever lived and the most important animal for th subsistence of native Americans and Europeans on the Great Plains.  I would rate the importance of a good article on bison of high importance -- not low importance as the mammal group has done.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smallchief (talk • contribs) 17:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't the American bison article; it's an overview of bison generally and needs to be redone in summary style. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:39, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Low importance? 

message: This article, a summary of bison generally, needs to be rewritten in WP:SUMMARY style. It is almost completely redundant with European bison, American bison and narrower subtopics of both of those.  As a summarized overview, it could easily fit in 2 screenfulls, and should. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  02:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed... I want to try and address that as such. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite in summary style 

message: Why does true buffalo redirect to African buffalo, are water buffaloes true buffaloes? 202.123.130.53 (talk) 02:55, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just had the same concern.  What is a "true buffalo"?__DrChrissy (talk) 17:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Water buffaloes are the source of the term "buffalo". They are known to classical antiquity. African "Cape" buffaloes were discovered by Europeans much later, and of course bison=buffalo is a misnomer.
Let's go with the buffalo genus Bubalus and let them sort out the different buffalo species from there, what do you think?
Kortoso (talk) 17:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  True [[Buffalo]] 

message: The most respectful use of the word Bison ?   North Dakota State Bison.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.22.220.249 (talk) 07:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  BISON 

message: The second sentence in the description says that they are "good swimmers". I am sure that is true, but they are not generally to be thought of as an aquatic species. I'm afraid this sentence's placement may be painting the wrong picture. Kortoso (talk) 17:49, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good swimmers? 

message: The first paragraph under description is all over the place. It starts be discussing size, without actually giving any hard numbers, it simply states that they are large, then ubruptly moves onto swimming ability before then discussing the tendency for male bison to leave and find their own herd. Finally, the paragraph brielfly explores their mating habits and endangered status.
The paragraph lacks cohesion. The ideas do not flow and are largely unrelated to one another.--96.51.65.38 (talk) 16:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  First paragraph under description lacks cohesion 

message: The claim about the bison says it's more dangerous than the grizzly bear but less dangerous than the american brown bear. That's a pretty good trick considering they are the same species. Obviously, the source of this silly claim isn't reliable, and the line should be rewritten to reflect the facts.40.142.177.101 (talk) 03:06, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The sourcing isn't clear, and I'm rather inclined to remove the sentence. However, it does say the "Alaska brown bear" [sic], not the American brown bear, and that and the grizzly are different subspecies. RivertorchFIREWATER 06:34, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi both.  In animal behaviour terms, the sentence is almost nonsense.  Many animals can become extremely dangerous, but this depends on context.  I have been bold and removed it completely, but happy to discuss. DrChrissy (talk) 18:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you made the right decision. And yeah—it is nonsense. Which is more dangerous? Whichever one is chasing you at the moment. RivertorchFIREWATER 04:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and who can run faster, you or the person you are with! ;-) DrChrissy (talk) 18:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dangerous 

message: I'm not remotely a biologist, but given the recent genomic testing and date estimates of migration of American bison progenitors to North America, I did what I could with adding the news article and the study, and removing the disproven earlier dates of the arrival on the continent. I hope someone better equipped with the appropriate background could polish my edits and add pertinent information, if appropriate. Activist (talk) 08:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to editor Rivertorch for addressing those issues with which I was less able to deal. Activist (talk) 06:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: My pleasure. Just did a copyedit, more or less. I'm no biologist, either.  RivertorchFIREWATER 06:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent research on bison migration to North America 

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message: Apparently new genetic studies have led some scientists to conclude that Bison is a junior synonym of Bos, and bison should be reclassified as Bos bison and B. bonasus (see Bovina).  Perhaps this should be mentioned in this article as well.  216.255.171.122 (talk) 21:14, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bison/Bos 

message: In which state or country we can find bison class 7 science ch 3 fibre to fabrik 2409:4065:E1E:31E9:CC89:7362:1669:CB3F (talk) 06:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Science 

message: Please see Talk:American_bison#Genus for the question of whether the taxonomy should be revised by placing the species into genus Bos. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bos/Bison 

message: The tabs have been misaligned in this article, making it look sloppy and unprofessional in my opinion. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 18:52, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you mean? - UtherSRG (talk) 23:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabs misaligned 

message: Quote from page3 & page 4 of History of Gove County, Kansas; W.P. Harrington; 47 pages; 1917.
• Sbmeirow • Talk • 03:08, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human Impact