Talk:Ramadan (calendar month)

message: The sentence,  "However, it is an ordinary month for non-Muslims that live in the countries that use the Islamic calendar." seems a bit superflous to me. Perhaps it should be deleted.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.43.234.160 (talk) 02:15, 2005 December 24 (UTC)
: Comment deleted. Next time, sign your post with four consecutive tidles (~~~~) joturner 02:29, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment 

message: Since ramadan is in fact not a holiday but just the month, why does this page exist? why is this information not on the same page as the other ramadan entry? i didnt see any discussion on the issue. it just doesnt make sense to me. Yung Wei 19:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Ramadan. The split was the result of a long discussion in December 2005. However, feel free to request a merger; I'd probably even support it. -- tariqabjotu 19:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger? 

message: "Each year, Ramadan begins ten days earlier than in the previous year." How often have I heard that! But it's not true, as the table shows. Some years it occurs eleven days earlier than the previous year, and occasionally twelve. I'm hesitant to change the statement myself, considering that the cited source also makes the claim, but I find the inaccuracy unsettling. Unfree (talk) 12:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ten days 

message: If it's 10 days earlier than the previous year, is it possible, that in one calendar year, there could be a start of Ramadan in January and December?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.35.159 (talk) 01:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it can start twice in one calender year.Eiad77 (talk) 22:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can Ramadam start twice in the same year? 

message: what are the other ones?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 16:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "one of the holy months" 

message: Does the claim that Ramadan is "the month in which the Qur'an was revealed." break NPOV? Shouldn't it be "the month in which, Muslims believe, the Qur'an was revealed."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.253.132 (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Your proposal is equally biased. "by tradition" could do. Gabriel Kielland (talk) 07:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that some qualifier would be in place, and I do not think that the IP's proposal is biased. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Not sure if this even belongs in the event section, but if it's included it should at least be accurate.  The war was not a comprehensive defeat of Egypt as previously stated.Eiad77 (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operation Badr 

message: === This discussion did not occur here it was on the Mohammed article page ===
honorific -Difference between Prophet Muhammed and Politicians (ie Thatcher)?
 
Why should Margaret Thatcher honorific have here honorific (Right Honourable) but not the prophet? 
Furthermore, "Right Honorable" is a title for Margaret Thatcher, not just an honorific, and that title comes from her profession, like "Doctor" would. The fact that it happens to be in her infobox doesn't mean it belongs there, and doesn't imply anything about any other infobox. Muhammad had no title associated with his profession, no title during his lifetime except possibly "prophet". SAW and PBUH are not titles, they are honorifics, and we don't use honorifics. 
::See also:
::*Our guideline on this, WP:PBUH.
::*Extensive archived discussion on honorifics in the Muhammad infobox: Talk:Muhammad/Archive_26#Titles in infobox
::*Even more extensive archived discussion on honorifics in infoboxes in general, not just Muhammad: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 129#Titles in Infoboxes
::All of those things led to the infobox we have today, according to Amatulić on the talk page.
end of cut and paste.
That is why I did the revert on August 18, 2012. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And you did well. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your welcome, Debresser  My regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A cut and paste from the Mohammed talk page about PBUH 

message: honorific -Difference between Prophet Muhammed and Politicians (ie Thatcher)?
 
Why should Margaret Thatcher honorific have here honorific (Right Honourable) but not the prophet? 
Furthermore, "Right Honorable" is a title for Margaret Thatcher, not just an honorific, and that title comes from her profession, like "Doctor" would. The fact that it happens to be in her infobox doesn't mean it belongs there, and doesn't imply anything about any other infobox. Muhammad had no title associated with his profession, no title during his lifetime except possibly "prophet". SAW and PBUH are not titles, they are honorifics, and we don't use honorifics. 
::See also:
::*Our guideline on this, WP:PBUH.
::*Extensive archived discussion on honorifics in the Muhammad infobox: Talk:Muhammad/Archive_26#Titles in infobox
::*Even more extensive archived discussion on honorifics in infoboxes in general, not just Muhammad: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 129#Titles in Infoboxes
::All of those things led to the infobox we have today, according to Amatulić on the talk page.
end of cut and paste.
That is why I did the revert on August 18, 2012. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And you did well. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your welcome, Debresser  My regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This discussion did not occur here it was on the [[Mohammed]] article page 

message: Sunrise to sunset can be very long in Northern parts of the world  (even 24h, with midnight sun!), how do muslims living there typically cope with this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.183.0.36 (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern countries, long days 

message: The article is missing both 1st (eg. Quran and Hadith) and 2nd-3rd level references. For example, in the first paragraph I've added the ambiguous phrase "according to common faith" for lack of a relevant reference. Also, referring to the homepage of the government of Pakistan (citation No. 6 in the current version of the article) is hardly specific enough for anything. François Robere (talk) 03:58, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Both health and education issues have been criticized. Should be included. --Rævhuld (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health and education issues 

message: That is the basic needed to provide a ci and source. Until then you just might as well grab smoke and smear it on paper and call that your source. It is nit the reader's responsibility to justify your claims. WP needs a publication name and a page number. At resent that is lacking. the CI links back to a WP article. Again, it is not theresponsibility of the reader to determine wher your CI/source came from. PERIOD. All eleven times this is included in WP articles.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: "The reference contains a link, but the reference is not the link." You are going to have to provide a better route to the source. Just pointing at a book is enough to fulfill your obligation as a contributor to WP or fulfill the fundamental grounds of historical accuracy or testing.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:44, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: All eleven times the one "quote" is used in WP articles.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: " Al-Haakim, Naim ibn Hammad, Kitab Al-Fitan " is cited as the source but  "Kitab Al-Fitan" is a SEE ALSO on WP article "Naim ibn Hammad" which is also a redirect from "Kitab Al-Fitan". There is no WP Article on "Al-Haakim" so what is the CI except a merry go round in circles?2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 05:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A citation needs a source--publication and page number/