Talk:Administrative division

message: from article Administration.
:In some contexts, including normal usage in the United States, the term administration also refers to the executive branch under a specific president (or sometimes governor, mayor, or other local executive), for example: the "Bush administration". (Most other English-speaking countries use the analogous term government, as in the "Blair government".) It can also mean an executive branch agency headed by an administrator: these agencies tend to have a regulatory function as well as an administrative function. On occasion, Americans will use the term to refer to the time a given person was president, e.g. "they've been married since the Carter administration."
if administration means government then a division of this administration does not refer to a territorial unit. But to one part of the government. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The term "Administration" is not used for government departments or agencies, except perhaps in a general sense when the agency acts out a Presidential directive, and the action is seen as the President acting. It is also a leap in logic to say that Administrative division (a global term) is restricted to an unusual interpretation of a US centric use of the word Administration. Legacypac (talk) 16:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative division 

message: Williams repeatedly deletes the template  from this article that until he moved it on 2006-04-04 to "Administrative division" was named "Subnational entity". He also deletes mentionings of related terms in the intro of this article, country subdivision, subnational entity. Additional he re-states that In contexts of statistical ranking and comparability, the term statoid is sometimes used.  Which in that sense is only a term coined by one person, Gwillim Law. 
Shall the template and the terms be included in this article or not? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote on deletions of template and related terms

message: See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Administrative divisions.
:--William Allen Simpson 04:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requests for arbitration 

message: In the compare section I read State (a national or supra-national entity). I don't understand the supra-national. IMHO is a national or sub-national entity (see US: every state is a republic, Switzerland: every canton is also a state). Cate 14:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I beg to differ, Cate. Every US state is NOT a 'republic'. Not every state is a "state" either. Some are 'commonwealth', some are 'state', etc. Rarelibra (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  State (a national or supra-national entity) 

message: In geographical databases, such as GeoNames and those offered by GeoDataSource, the term "administrative division" is used to refer to dependent territories as well as accepted administrative divisions. Therefore, I added the following sentence to the introduction "However, the term "administrative division" often includes dependent territories (for example, in geographical databases)." - The Aviv (talk) 17:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the minor change "often includes" --> "can include" because we don't have statement giving relavant usage. Good find though. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 08:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dependent territory 

message: I challenge the claim that the term "administrative division" commonly has the meaning described in this piece.  All of the references are to irrelevant articles or other wikipedia articles (which I suspect were created by the same authors).  Specifically, as someone else has already stated here, the US Federal Government's administrative divisions are divisions of various government departments and have no direct connection to political divisions such as states, cities, parishes, counties, and townships.  Either this is very narrowly focused on some other usage, or is simply wrong.  Please provide references to prove that this term is generally used to mean geopolitical subdivisions of a country, or change the lede to indicate that the authors are using the term in a colloquial/parochial way.  A preferred source would be a textbook on (college level) geography. Thanks173.189.77.96 (talk) 07:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a pretty good article that accurately describes a term widely used to catch a whole bunch of country specific terms. The statement that "the US Federal Government's administrative divisions are divisions of various government departments and have no direct connection to political divisions such as states, cities, parishes, counties, and townships." is just not correct. Legacypac (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Challenge 

message: "... Since ISIL is accurately listed at List of active rebel groups can we have consensus that the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not a sovereign state, country, or sub-national entity and should not be listed as such..."  
That's a summary of the nominator's premiss in an RfC running at Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant directly accessed: here.
Contribution would be appreciated and am pinging contributors above: 
Tobias Conradi, 
William Allen Simpson, 
Gwillim Law, 
Golbez, 
Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis), 
Cate, 
Rarelibra, 
The Aviv, 
Chipmunkdavis, Thanks.  GregKaye ✍♪ 08:59, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, a blast from the past. Tobias Conradi was first banned from the German wikipedia, then came here and disrupted the English in 2006, then was banned in 2007. Haven't seem some of these others in years. But I'll be glad to take a look.Having looked, I don't see what this has to do with Administrative divisions, nor defining them. Nothing relevant to see here.--William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC 

message: Is England considered an administrative division of the United Kingdom?  If not, are there administrative divisions of England? power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No there is nothing that just covers England. England is administered by the United Kingdom, there's no government of England. It's a constituent country, but not an administrative entity. The closest to it is England and Wales and there has been no administrative area of England in any sense of the term since 1707. Canterbury Tail talk 16:27, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not all subdivisions governed by a corporation, there are unincorporated areas too, which are subdivisions  but does not have there own government. --Thesmp (talk) 17:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  User:Canterbury Tail,  I made a word 'usually' bold. --Thesmp (talk) 17:21, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative divisions in England 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 14:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Administrative division →  – Better title, because not all scholars agree that the federated states can be named administrative divisions, and the article discuss them too. See also discussion above about England, which is a subdivision of the UK but not an administrative entity (there is no a Devolved English parliament or so). Heanor (talk) 10:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 February 2022