Talk:Internet Governance Forum

message: ===From lede===
It purports to bring together all stakeholders in the internet governance debate, whether they represent states, the private sector or civil society, on an equal basis and through an open and inclusive process.
why - purports is a weasel word Guroadrunner 09:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed from article 

message: It purports to bring together all stakeholders in the internet governance debate, whether they represent states, the private sector or civil society, on an equal basis and through an open and inclusive process.
why - purports is a weasel word Guroadrunner 09:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From lede

message: Its chairman Nitin Desai is the Secretary-General’s Special Adviser for WSIS, who has also chaired the UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG). The task of the Group is to prepare the substantive Agenda and program of the Athens inaugural Meeting and to have an overall supervision over its activities. 
why -- too complex to break down for simplification Guroadrunner 10:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From organization/agf section

message: The aforementioned organizational structure of the IGF, which has been established in order to guarantee the successful organization of the annual meetings of the Forum and facilitate its working and functions, is not considered as static. Conversely, its nature and function is bound to change according to the experiences gained during the preparatory process for the Athens meeting.
why -- too complex to break down for simplification Guroadrunner 10:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: From organization/ last paragraph

message: Why -- fails Original research rules for Wikipedia. Guroadrunner 10:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed from article in whole: Analysis 

message: === Explanation ===
There is this part under "structure and Function" that confuses me a bit. It says here (third paragraph):
"These organizational divisions should not be considered concrete, instead being malleable with future meetings, this means the organizations structures will continue to be changed and adjusted till they fit into the needs of the members."
Please do analyze the underlined words "instead being malleable with future meetings." I do wonder in what way the word "malleable" is used in this context. If you click on the "malleable" link, it would describe metals in general. Generally speaking, "malleable" means it can be easily deformed or shaped which is characteristic of metals. In other words, the "malleable" term here already presupposes that "it" can "be easily influenced." I feel the phrase "instead being malleable with future meetings" is redundant as the next fragment of sentence (this means the organizations structures will continue to be changed and adjusted till they fit into the needs of the members) would already explain what "malleable" is. Is it possible to take out the phrase "Instead of being malleable with future meetings?"
If you rephrase this entire sentence, it would come out like this:
These organizational divisions should not be considered concrete since the organizational structures will continue to be adjusted and to be changed until they fit into the needs of the members.
Note: These are my corrections (please see above underlined words):
[1] I added the phrase "since the organizational structure" (in the original text the word "organization" was with an "-s" so I am not sure if that was to mean "organization's" with an apostrophe and '-s") to connect the two fragment sentences after taking out "instead being malleable with future meetings."
[2] I also added the verb "to be" before "adjusted" just to be technical with the structure of the sentence - just to have both verbs in passive form.
[3] I also changed the word "till" into "until." Most linguists would believe that the word "till" is the abbreviation of "until," hence, it is quite informal to use. So I would suggest using "until" for formality's sake.
I would also like you to inform about some more about IT Governance and Compliance
IT governance, risk and compliance (IT GRC) is about striking an appropriate balance between business reward and risk. The maturity of IT GRC practices for managing reward and risk has a direct impact on the organization. IT GRC encompasses the practices for delivering: Greater business value from IT strategy, investment and alignment, Significantly reduced business and financial risk from the use of IT, and Conformance with policies of the organization and its external legal and regulatory compliance mandates. IT GRC energizes the entire organization to imagine what it can achieve, establishes methods for achieving their objectives, and demonstrates the practices that are proven to work for minimizing business and financial risk. Fundamentally, IT GRC is about striking an appropriate balance between business reward and risk, enabling an organization to more effectively anticipate and manage business risk while more effectively delivering value for the organization. IT governance, risk, compliance, IT GRC, White paper, compliance survey report, 2008 compliance report. You can also get more information from http://www.compliancehome.com/symantec/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacksmith4204 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing A Paragraph: Structure and Function 

message: There is this part under "structure and Function" that confuses me a bit. It says here (third paragraph):
"These organizational divisions should not be considered concrete, instead being malleable with future meetings, this means the organizations structures will continue to be changed and adjusted till they fit into the needs of the members."
Please do analyze the underlined words "instead being malleable with future meetings." I do wonder in what way the word "malleable" is used in this context. If you click on the "malleable" link, it would describe metals in general. Generally speaking, "malleable" means it can be easily deformed or shaped which is characteristic of metals. In other words, the "malleable" term here already presupposes that "it" can "be easily influenced." I feel the phrase "instead being malleable with future meetings" is redundant as the next fragment of sentence (this means the organizations structures will continue to be changed and adjusted till they fit into the needs of the members) would already explain what "malleable" is. Is it possible to take out the phrase "Instead of being malleable with future meetings?"
If you rephrase this entire sentence, it would come out like this:
These organizational divisions should not be considered concrete since the organizational structures will continue to be adjusted and to be changed until they fit into the needs of the members.
Note: These are my corrections (please see above underlined words):
[1] I added the phrase "since the organizational structure" (in the original text the word "organization" was with an "-s" so I am not sure if that was to mean "organization's" with an apostrophe and '-s") to connect the two fragment sentences after taking out "instead being malleable with future meetings."
[2] I also added the verb "to be" before "adjusted" just to be technical with the structure of the sentence - just to have both verbs in passive form.
[3] I also changed the word "till" into "until." Most linguists would believe that the word "till" is the abbreviation of "until," hence, it is quite informal to use. So I would suggest using "until" for formality's sake.
I would also like you to inform about some more about IT Governance and Compliance
IT governance, risk and compliance (IT GRC) is about striking an appropriate balance between business reward and risk. The maturity of IT GRC practices for managing reward and risk has a direct impact on the organization. IT GRC encompasses the practices for delivering: Greater business value from IT strategy, investment and alignment, Significantly reduced business and financial risk from the use of IT, and Conformance with policies of the organization and its external legal and regulatory compliance mandates. IT GRC energizes the entire organization to imagine what it can achieve, establishes methods for achieving their objectives, and demonstrates the practices that are proven to work for minimizing business and financial risk. Fundamentally, IT GRC is about striking an appropriate balance between business reward and risk, enabling an organization to more effectively anticipate and manage business risk while more effectively delivering value for the organization. IT governance, risk, compliance, IT GRC, White paper, compliance survey report, 2008 compliance report. You can also get more information from http://www.compliancehome.com/symantec/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacksmith4204 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

message: === Explanation ===
Just a minor edit under "Emerging Issues" and "Innovation, Research and Development" - I added a semi-colon after "regimes" and inserted "and" before "etc."
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proofreading: IGF Rio 2007 - Emerging Issues 

message: Just a minor edit under "Emerging Issues" and "Innovation, Research and Development" - I added a semi-colon after "regimes" and inserted "and" before "etc."
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

message: === Explanation ===
For purposes of grammar, I have revised some sentences into active forms. There were misspelled words that I corrected and some missing conjunctions.  I also added a few HTML tags (such as the italicized tag for the text enclosed in quotation marks and the break tags for the text placed as a list) to format the text- to make it much easier to connect the text into the sub-headings. The thought of the text is still there so no worry here as the corrections made are within the purposes of grammar. I just took the liberty of editing the main article right away. Please see below the corrections:
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The question of Internet Security is one of the most important debate in the Information Society. Internet is becoming an important communication and business tool, as such, that the question of security comes as a cross-cutting issue to be addressed in all its dimension. As indicated by Michael Harrop, Rapporteur SG 17 Q4, Communications Security Project in 2006, "without effective security, all systems and processes that rely on electronic communications are at risk and, as a consequence, large numbers of resources are now devoted to countering threats, protecting systems and recovering from successful attacks." The Rio de Janeiro Meeting mentioned that "...achieving the Internet’s full potential to support commercial and social relationships required an environment that promoted and ensured users' trust and confidence and provided a stable and secure platform."
Internet Security has been mentioned in the Substantive Agenda of the Rio de Janeiro Meeting. It was also present in the Agenda of the Athens Meeting. Even before the Athens Meeting, Internet Security was mentioned at the Tunis WSIS under "Building Confidence and Security in the Use of ICT's." At the coming Hyderabad Meeting in December 2008, two panels will again discuss questions related to Internet Security. This gives an idea on how important the question has been in each of the IGF meetings so far.
Internet Security issues can be folded under the following:
- secure telecommunication which deals most with the security of telecommunication infrastructure
- cyber-security as Internet users deal with it in their daily operations and use of the Internet
- identity theft
- children pornography
- hacking and other virus and cyber threats (scams, spams, etc.)
- cyber-terrorism
Internet Security on the Athens Agenda
The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) is at the forefront of contributors to the field of Telecommunication Security. At the Athens meeting, ITU mentioned the major contributions made in this domain by International organizations. ITU took the necessary steps to set up a number of initiatives that were presented at the Athens meeting. It presented a telecommunication security guideline and set up the road map towards Internet Security. The question of security of telecommunication was somehow dominant at the Athens meeting. 
ITU mentioned the difficulty of experts in the field. One of the difficulties mentioned was related to the question of standardisation - as many international organizations were developing domain initiatives at the same time.  
As a follow-up activity of the WSIS Conference, a number of ITU study groups have been assigned tasks related to Internet Security. At the Athens Meeting, findings of these study groups were presented to address diverse Internet security questions such as:
- Telecommunication management
- Protection against electromagnetic environment effects
- Outside Plant and related indoor installations
- Security, languages and telecommunication software
- Mobile Telecommunications Networks
Internet Security on the Rio de Janeiro Agenda
At the Rio de Janeiro meeting, a whole session was dedicated to the question of Internet security, emphasizing the importance of this question nowadays, as well as the treats users are facing more and more in their daily operations over the Internet. Internet Security questions put on the agenda at Rio were related to: 
- cybercrime 
- cyber-terrorism 
- protection of individuals and automatic processing of personal data 
- action against trafficking in human beings 
- protection of children against sexual exploitation and sexual abuse
The Rio de Janeiro meeting called for international cooperation and coordinated action to counter cybercrime because of its transnational dimension. Recommendations were forwarded towards the direction of responsibility of governments in order to raise awareness among Internet users and in the direction of ICANN because of the responsibility it has for the Domain Name System. It is required of ICANN since it accepts responsibility for controlling illegal online content for the  protection of  children from Internet pornography.
Internet Security on the Hyderabad Agenda
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 05 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proofreading: Security Issues 

message: For purposes of grammar, I have revised some sentences into active forms. There were misspelled words that I corrected and some missing conjunctions.  I also added a few HTML tags (such as the italicized tag for the text enclosed in quotation marks and the break tags for the text placed as a list) to format the text- to make it much easier to connect the text into the sub-headings. The thought of the text is still there so no worry here as the corrections made are within the purposes of grammar. I just took the liberty of editing the main article right away. Please see below the corrections:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------§
The question of Internet Security is one of the most important debate in the Information Society. Internet is becoming an important communication and business tool, as such, that the question of security comes as a cross-cutting issue to be addressed in all its dimension. As indicated by Michael Harrop, Rapporteur SG 17 Q4, Communications Security Project in 2006, "without effective security, all systems and processes that rely on electronic communications are at risk and, as a consequence, large numbers of resources are now devoted to countering threats, protecting systems and recovering from successful attacks." The Rio de Janeiro Meeting mentioned that "...achieving the Internet’s full potential to support commercial and social relationships required an environment that promoted and ensured users' trust and confidence and provided a stable and secure platform."
Internet Security has been mentioned in the Substantive Agenda of the Rio de Janeiro Meeting. It was also present in the Agenda of the Athens Meeting. Even before the Athens Meeting, Internet Security was mentioned at the Tunis WSIS under "Building Confidence and Security in the Use of ICT's." At the coming Hyderabad Meeting in December 2008, two panels will again discuss questions related to Internet Security. This gives an idea on how important the question has been in each of the IGF meetings so far.
Internet Security issues can be folded under the following:
- secure telecommunication which deals most with the security of telecommunication infrastructure
- cyber-security as Internet users deal with it in their daily operations and use of the Internet
- identity theft
- children pornography
- hacking and other virus and cyber threats (scams, spams, etc.)
- cyber-terrorism
Internet Security on the Athens Agenda
The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) is at the forefront of contributors to the field of Telecommunication Security. At the Athens meeting, ITU mentioned the major contributions made in this domain by International organizations. ITU took the necessary steps to set up a number of initiatives that were presented at the Athens meeting. It presented a telecommunication security guideline and set up the road map towards Internet Security. The question of security of telecommunication was somehow dominant at the Athens meeting. 
ITU mentioned the difficulty of experts in the field. One of the difficulties mentioned was related to the question of standardisation - as many international organizations were developing domain initiatives at the same time.  
As a follow-up activity of the WSIS Conference, a number of ITU study groups have been assigned tasks related to Internet Security. At the Athens Meeting, findings of these study groups were presented to address diverse Internet security questions such as:
- Telecommunication management
- Protection against electromagnetic environment effects
- Outside Plant and related indoor installations
- Security, languages and telecommunication software
- Mobile Telecommunications Networks
Internet Security on the Rio de Janeiro Agenda
At the Rio de Janeiro meeting, a whole session was dedicated to the question of Internet security, emphasizing the importance of this question nowadays, as well as the treats users are facing more and more in their daily operations over the Internet. Internet Security questions put on the agenda at Rio were related to: 
- cybercrime 
- cyber-terrorism 
- protection of individuals and automatic processing of personal data 
- action against trafficking in human beings 
- protection of children against sexual exploitation and sexual abuse
The Rio de Janeiro meeting called for international cooperation and coordinated action to counter cybercrime because of its transnational dimension. Recommendations were forwarded towards the direction of responsibility of governments in order to raise awareness among Internet users and in the direction of ICANN because of the responsibility it has for the Domain Name System. It is required of ICANN since it accepts responsibility for controlling illegal online content for the  protection of  children from Internet pornography.
Internet Security on the Hyderabad Agenda
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 05 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

message: === Explanation ===
Again, for purposes of grammar, I changed some forms of verbs into singular form based on the subject and verb agreement.  Please see below specific questions pertaining to specific lines:
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"The multistakeholder approach WAS highlighted by many speakers and panelists during the Opening Session, including the message from the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, which was read by the UN Under-Secretary-General for Economic and Social Affairs, M. Sha Zukang."
EXPLANATION: Just that WERE was changed to WAS
"M. Ban Ki-Moon assured that it is not a UN goal to take over Internet Governance but the UN will offer an opportunity to bring people together, with the same interest, in a global reach.  Available at: http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-opening-12NOV07.txt (page 1)"
EXPLANATION: I linked the words "bring people together" to the first fragment of the sentence and made the words "with the same interest" into another fragment. 
"M. Sha Zukang concludes that the IGF was a unique experience because “it brings together people who normally do not meet under the same roof.”  Available at: http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-opening-12NOV07.txt (page 2)"
EXPLANATION: I added the "" tag before and after the text enclosed in quotation marks.
""Development" was a key discussion in the IGF-RIO, as the theme chosen for this meeting, including the breaking of digital divide, which becomes the theme for the next IGF: Internet for All."
EXPLANATION: I enclosed the word "development" in quotation marks as the sentence refers to it as a theme. I am a bit confused as "development" was a key discussion and the theme at the same time...is this what it means? Since it says "chosen for this meeting" but "this" pertains to "IGF RIO" or the incoming IGF Hyderabad? What do the rest of the words "including the breaking of digital divide, which becomes the theme for the next IGF: "Internet for All" pertain to - the IGF Hyderabad?  If this is the case, please allow me to suggest this re-phrasing:
"Development" was a key discussion during the IGF Rio Meeting. It will still be an important aspect for discussion, together with the issue of bridging the digital divide - a key element of discussion for the IGF Hyderabad and reflects the theme of the IGF Hyderabad which is "Internet for All." 
"The nature and prospective of the IGF were also discussed, as the Chairman properly summarizesmissing named reference, name=autogenerated3:
 
  “Several participants underlined that the IGF was not only a space for dialogue, but also a medium that should encourage fundamental change at the local level to empower communities, build capacity and skills enable the Internet`s expansion, thereby contributing to economic and social development."
NO CORRECTIONS/EXPLANATIONS HERE
Rustan108 (talk) 07:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proofreading and Question: Opening Ceremony/Opening Session 

message: Again, for purposes of grammar, I changed some forms of verbs into singular form based on the subject and verb agreement.  Please see below specific questions pertaining to specific lines:
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"The multistakeholder approach WAS highlighted by many speakers and panelists during the Opening Session, including the message from the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, which was read by the UN Under-Secretary-General for Economic and Social Affairs, M. Sha Zukang."
EXPLANATION: Just that WERE was changed to WAS
"M. Ban Ki-Moon assured that it is not a UN goal to take over Internet Governance but the UN will offer an opportunity to bring people together, with the same interest, in a global reach.  Available at: http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-opening-12NOV07.txt (page 1)"
EXPLANATION: I linked the words "bring people together" to the first fragment of the sentence and made the words "with the same interest" into another fragment. 
"M. Sha Zukang concludes that the IGF was a unique experience because “it brings together people who normally do not meet under the same roof.”  Available at: http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-opening-12NOV07.txt (page 2)"
EXPLANATION: I added the "" tag before and after the text enclosed in quotation marks.
""Development" was a key discussion in the IGF-RIO, as the theme chosen for this meeting, including the breaking of digital divide, which becomes the theme for the next IGF: Internet for All."
EXPLANATION: I enclosed the word "development" in quotation marks as the sentence refers to it as a theme. I am a bit confused as "development" was a key discussion and the theme at the same time...is this what it means? Since it says "chosen for this meeting" but "this" pertains to "IGF RIO" or the incoming IGF Hyderabad? What do the rest of the words "including the breaking of digital divide, which becomes the theme for the next IGF: "Internet for All" pertain to - the IGF Hyderabad?  If this is the case, please allow me to suggest this re-phrasing:
"Development" was a key discussion during the IGF Rio Meeting. It will still be an important aspect for discussion, together with the issue of bridging the digital divide - a key element of discussion for the IGF Hyderabad and reflects the theme of the IGF Hyderabad which is "Internet for All." 
"The nature and prospective of the IGF were also discussed, as the Chairman properly summarizesmissing named reference, name=autogenerated3:
 
  “Several participants underlined that the IGF was not only a space for dialogue, but also a medium that should encourage fundamental change at the local level to empower communities, build capacity and skills enable the Internet`s expansion, thereby contributing to economic and social development."
NO CORRECTIONS/EXPLANATIONS HERE
Rustan108 (talk) 07:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

message: === Explanation ===
Critical Internet Resources
This is a new session that was introduced during the IGF Rio Meeting. Basically, it covered some issues pertaining to the infrastructure of the Internet. ICANN discussions were not missed, as well as the role of governments in shaping policies.
Access
The issue of “access” is more on how to get the billion of users around the world to go online in the next years to come. Such initiatives to this cause are reminiscent of pilot projects in Africa wherein laptops were given to children under an open source software agreement.
Diversity
The issue of “diversity” calls for multilingualism in the Net. Such promotion on multilingualism would increase users whose main language is not English. In order to open the Net to a diverse population, international domain names (IDN) were added to facilitate the language needs of other users.
Openness
The strong support on closed software has not been favorable to some people. This is due to the fact that there were long-lasting agreements between governments and large software companies. Such actions were considered critical, as it binds different entities to proprietary or closed source technologies. Many believed that the shift from closed to open software can only happen with the full-scale participation of both the private and public sectors. As such, many people fear the turning of the Internet into a “private” network if there is much insistence on the use of closed technologies.
Talks on open standards, open architecture and open software are clear indicators of what the issue on openness is all about.
Read this literature entitled "Free Culture" by Lawrence Lessig to know more on "Openness on the Internet."   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional: IGF Rio 2007 

message: Critical Internet Resources
This is a new session that was introduced during the IGF Rio Meeting. Basically, it covered some issues pertaining to the infrastructure of the Internet. ICANN discussions were not missed, as well as the role of governments in shaping policies.
Access
The issue of “access” is more on how to get the billion of users around the world to go online in the next years to come. Such initiatives to this cause are reminiscent of pilot projects in Africa wherein laptops were given to children under an open source software agreement.
Diversity
The issue of “diversity” calls for multilingualism in the Net. Such promotion on multilingualism would increase users whose main language is not English. In order to open the Net to a diverse population, international domain names (IDN) were added to facilitate the language needs of other users.
Openness
The strong support on closed software has not been favorable to some people. This is due to the fact that there were long-lasting agreements between governments and large software companies. Such actions were considered critical, as it binds different entities to proprietary or closed source technologies. Many believed that the shift from closed to open software can only happen with the full-scale participation of both the private and public sectors. As such, many people fear the turning of the Internet into a “private” network if there is much insistence on the use of closed technologies.
Talks on open standards, open architecture and open software are clear indicators of what the issue on openness is all about.
Read this literature entitled "Free Culture" by Lawrence Lessig to know more on "Openness on the Internet."   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustan108 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

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