Talk:Second Peace of Thorn (1466)

message: The article have to be at the historical name. In English, this is the most common. -- Nico 21:34, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: Casimir IV was put under ban for his attempt to illegally annex Prussia and the 1466 agreements and the 1525 agreements were neither authorized nore recognized by the HRE emperors, nore the popes, who had recorded supreme overlordship of Prussia with the Golden Bulls of Rimini and Rieti.
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:1) Casimir was put under ban? By whom? By emperor, whom he had considered his equal and who has no authority over him?
:2) Attempt to illegally annex Prussia? He was invited by Prussia burghers and gentry for annexing, and anyway Teutons hold it illegally since IIRC all or almost all earlier trials ordered TO to return Gdansk to Poland!
:3) Pope had not confirmed it, so what: did you read why they need confimration? It was said something in sense: "pope's confimration is not needed, but will be seeked for ensuring lsating peace", I could search for exact Dlugosz quote if you want.
:So, your quote does not add anything: it tries to suggest, that Casimir was subject to emperor, it tries to suggest that pope's confirmation was needed, and that annexation was illegal, all three of which are not true.
Szopen 08:02, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1525 Treaty of Krakow 

message: I've reverted the cut and paste move of this article to Second Treaty of Torun.  If you think it should be moved, get someone to delete Second Treaty of Torun or move it somewhere else (Treaty of Torun/Thorn (1466), or some such, would be a good location), and then move the article there.  Cut and paste moves are just wrong, and Space Cadet has been around long enough to know that.
On the substantive matter, Second Treaty of Thorn is more commonly used in English.  There are about three times as many hits on google for "Treaty of Thorn" as there are for "Treaty of Torun". john k 16:41, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Second Treaty of Thorn is the proper name, I agree. -- Matthead  Discuß   00:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut and Paste move, title of article 

message: Really did pope recognized the treaty? In all history books ive read he didn't even though papal legate was a mediator. Not that this is VERY relevant, since both sides agreed that his (pope's) confirmation is not needed but only would be welcomed... I am even not sure whether pope take back the curse from the Prussian confederation Szopen 10:22, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pope and treaty 

message: If anybody thinks this article is POVed, or would like to explain why the de-Wiki version is better, please do so here. Otherwise I see no reason for the NPOV tag or the bizzare 'see better article on de-Wiki' note to remain in the article.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: The article lacks descriptions of the actual content of the treaty. -- Matthead  Discuß   00:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, and some editors here even deleted some parts of the treaty's main elements (like the fact that treaty stated clearly that Prussia was incorporated into Polish kingdom). Szopen (talk) 07:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content? 

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 

message: It has been suggested (by User:Armbrust) that this page be moved to Second Peace of Thorn. That looks like a good idea, but given that the current name was the result of a consensus decision here on this page, it should first be proposed here on this page. 08:34, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to