Talk:My Family

message: This series MAIN characters are loosely based on those in the series in the 1970's Called "Butterflies".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.79.190 (talk) 03:55, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of points... 

message: Looks like it is time to bring this to Talk. The lead should be of good length and "should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article". Mentioning future series is a crucial part of this. Otherwise people will not know, and they should not have to search in episodes for it. All TV programmes should be "is", as if they still exist they should be in present tense. See WP:TENSE and this. I for my part apologise for not bringing this to talk earlier. It would have been a lot easier than us having an edit war. So I apologise for that, but I firmly believe future series are crucial in opening. In the same way as we would say when it finished airing, we should say when it will next air.--UpDown 15:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please discuss here. You attitude now is getting very frustrating, you are presenting now arguments and seem unwilling to discuss. What part of "should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article" is unclear. Without future series, the lead is not capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article. It is also logical to have it in the opening paragraph, before a description of the programme.--UpDown 14:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One paragraph is all I'll be writing here, since I've learned not to waste time trying to reason with article owners. The lead (as is) doesn't flow. How does mentioning a forthcoming series, followed by mentioning the show's creator in the same paragraph, make sense? I didn't move the forthcoming series information out of the lead, I just rearranged it. That aside, the link you proffered above doesn't state that forthcoming series should appear in the lead, only spin-offs, but apparently now it's "common sense" that it should. This is the reference mark to which I'll be pointing in my future edit summaries. - Dudesleeper ·  Talk 14:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not pretend to own the article, but I do want it to look good. And your version didn't. Frankly I don't like the excuse "I've learned not to waste time trying to reason with article owners" - that is not an excuse to continue a edit war when a discussion has been started. I have changed the lead, and I hope this meets with your approval. You were correct that the Fred Barron sentence didn't particularly fit but I believe it does now. The link clearly says that the start and end airdate should be in the lead. My Family has not got an end date yet, so to make this clear we should say when the next series will air. Otherwise someone reading the lead has no idea whether its finished or not, and that is a breach of WP:LEAD (as quoted above).--UpDown 14:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that! I really should read what I write before pressing "Save page".--UpDown 14:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: How nice that you think that. Luckily Wikipedia is far more sensible than you are and use the English that is correct for the article, and in this it is UK English.--UpDown (talk) 12:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening

message: To remove the whole section because it's "unnecessary" makes no sense. More often than not, there is something that can be taken from it. UpDown is demonstrating for the 543rd time his article-ownership syptoms, and thus rubbing people up the wrong way. Dudesleeper /  Talk 18:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My God you really, really need to get over this hatred for me, frankly I'm get so fed up of it. It's pathetic. Just grow up and make constructive comments, and be neutral, not just have a go at me. This section is totally without precedence in Wikipedia. The lead should contain a short summary of the article, all other in information should be referenced (nothing here is, or even correctly formatted/linked etc) and within the correct sections, not in one get huge section. Ask any TV editing expert (Collectionian perhaps) and I'm fairly sure they will agree.--UpDown (talk) 19:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And that constitutes vandalism how exactly? - Dudesleeper /  Talk 19:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because he has re-added a totally unacceptable section to an article, despite me saying in an edit summary "rem. completly un-needed "Summary" section". He just reverted this without saying why, or coming to my talk first. --UpDown (talk) 19:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As a neutral observer it seems to me that the section has merit albeit not as a summary. Yes it needs citations and some cleaning but so does most of wp. I have reinstated the section but titled it "History" which is basically what it is; I have no doubt it will be improved in the coming weeks. Abtract (talk) 21:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs more than re-naming, it needs removing!! All the information about each series and number of episodes and when aired etc already exists at List of My Family episodes - it does not need to be repeated here. Take away all of that and you have some interesting cast information. This needs referencing before being putting in, and should go the "Characters" section. I am, again, removing for the reasons I've just said. The information on cast, if reference provided, I would be more than happy to put in the characters section. --UpDown (talk) 09:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So it was a totally unacceptable section at 21:56 last night, but just under twelve hours later you're more than happy to put in the characters section? Hmm, yep sounds like pure vandalism to me. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 09:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It remains a totally unacceptable section. Parts are repeated, the useful parts when referenced can go in "Characters" section. But when referenced and not in a "Summary" section. Please read what I say and try not to be petty and use every attempt possible to attack me. It's getting very tiring.--UpDown (talk) 09:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Characters" section didn't have a single citation from the article's inception in 2003 until November 2007 (see here for the version on November 15, 2007). But now there's a sudden urgency to have references? If we're comparing apples to apples, as you like to do, Keeping Up Appearances (another article you're protective over) has two references in the whole article. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 09:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A lack of references is not an excuse to add more stuff without references. New additions should have references to avoid the article getting worse in terms of quality. Please explain why all the info regarding episode broadcast dates & times is needed when it is all on the episode list article. Frankly your behaviour is clearly biased because of your hatred of me, and I feel that is a great shame.--UpDown (talk) 17:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

text: "Mild repetition" - are you serious. 90% of it is repetition from the episode list page. We have episode list pages for reasons of size and there is NO NEED to repeat information of that scale. That, I believe, is a WP policy. This does not help, its frankly an awfully written section. Any useful information, when referenced, can be inserted in the "Characters" sections.--UpDown (talk) 21:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary section ... retitled as "History" section 

message: It is related to My Family, both shows have the same writer and is in the exsact same style, as in they are both comedy's about a family [and they are both unfunny, signed a slightly bored jerk]. Please don't remove it again, it's alright if you other guy's dislike After You've Gone but you could just keep it there, for my benefit and anyone else that is a fan of both. I mean, it's not doing any harm is it? .--LeighMichelle75 (talk) 01:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about 2point4 children, is that classed as related? It is similar in many ways. Avid viewer (talk) 02:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, changing now 93.186.31.215 (talk) 04:19, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a spin-off, has never featured any crossovers, and is therefore unrelated. Smurfmeister (talk) 17:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[After You've Gone]] 

message: It is the only fansite on its subject. It is home to the only My Family forums. It doesn't have its own page and therefore needs to be mentioned in this article. If an encyclopedia doesn't include information on every aspect of a subject then what is the point of it? The Music Collector (talk) 15:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You appear to be in the minority. - Dudesleeper talk 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Family Online 

message: Both this article and the List of My Family characters state that he loves his family, yet having watched the show regularly I don't see any evidence of that being the case. He has a very negative attitude and view of every family member featured and mentioned, rarely praises any of them and only helps them reluctantly, due to the fact he feels he should. He often shows that he wishes he had never married and never had children. He resents his family; he feels trapped and downtrodden. He longs for his freedom, and wishes he'd never given it up. He didn't marry Susan because she was the love of his life; it was because she was pregnant by him. As in the real world, it is common for someone to marry someone due to producing a child with them as a result of not bothering to use contraception, when one would otherwise never have married them. Avid viewer (talk) 03:24, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've seen in the show, Ben does love his family and has a very tough type of love. It's subtle, very British, and ironic, but, despite his outwards display, I notice in the show that he does actually love his family  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.187.150 (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen the vast majority of episodes of My Family, and I have not seen him show the slightest bit of love towards anyone. He feels very frustrated by his situation and finds his family to be a bitter disappointment to him. A source states that he loves his family, but that same source wrongly describes Abi as his niece. It is unambiguously stated in the show that she is his first cousin once removed, hence the writer of the source article is not very familiar with the show. Ben is a misanthrope who is incapable of loving anyone, except perhaps himself. 188.30.217.240 (talk) 21:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ben 

message: Do we have any evidence that My Family will end in 2010? Usually it a series per year, so I would have thought it would end in 2011 sometime? --Iamthedoctor2009 (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 end? 

message: I do not want to get into an edit war with Dannyboybaby1234, but he keeps undoing my edits where I removed the character of Scott Marsh, who has only appeared in one episode of the current series so far, with 5 episodes aired. How does this make him a main character? can we make this a discussion before its changed again?  93.186.23.200 (talk) 22:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Marsh 

message: I've removed the reference to her character name of Charlie being a possible reference to 'The Upper Hand'. It's pure speculation, and an equally (if not more) likely explanation is that Charlie was chosen because it's a unisex name. Plus isn't it far more significant that Diana Weston was Robert Lindsay's partner for several years? Smurfmeister (talk) 17:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Diana Weston

message: The Complete Series 1–11 includes 119 episodes ("All episodes are available on DVD..."):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Family#DVD_releases
But the episode list contains 120 episodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Family_episodes  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.111.239.36 (talk) 07:07, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which episode is missing in Complete Series 1–11 box? 

message: As of today it doesn't talk anything about it. Surely it must have won many awards for it's fantastic editing technique (and I'm being sarcastic - if you've watched the show then you'll know why)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.181.44 (talk) 19:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did it ever win any awards? 

message: i doubt that in four years the creator only wrote eight episodes yet the section says exactly that.... maybe per year, but unlikely series total... Someone got any facts to contribute? --Qazwiz (talk) 13:14, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  section:Writers must need editing,   

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: When a TV series includes gay characters (or lesbian, bisexual, transgender), the category identifying the inclusion is added to the article. It does not render the series a "Gay" or LGBT series. It only acknowledges that the TV series includes L, or G, or B, or T characters. In regards to this series:
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15 April 2010
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replies: text: I don't necessarily agree with it, and it may not be the deciding factor here anyway, but please see WP:DAILYMAIL1. MPS1992 (talk) 20:24, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay characters 

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: There's been plenty of speculation regarding a possible revival of the sitcom over the years. Robert Lindsay, Zoe Wanamaker and Kris Marshall have all been questioned and given different answers but the idea has floated around. The show also aired again on BBC One during the Covid-19 pandemic which further led to speculation regarding a possible revival. The three aforementioned actors reunited during a BBC One Show interview to discuss the show airing once more on BBC One during prime time. 
I feel as though a section should be added to highlight the possibility of a revival of the show. Sadly many of the interviews with the cast are from tabloids, and I know Wikipedia frustratingly frowns upon using those for references. But what I was able to gather from non-tabloid sources I will list below if someone wishes to create this section, otherwise I will try to at some point.
My Family returning to BBC One during the Covid-19 pandemic
- https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a32618406/one-show-my-family-star-swears-reunion/
- https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a32267626/bbc-one-my-family-return/
Interview, Robert Lindsay and Kris Marshall supposedly discussing ideas for a new episode
- https://www.bt.com/tv/comedy/my-family-bbc-iplayer-robert-lindsay-interview
Noah-x3 (talk) 08:37, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revival  

message: In the "Guest cast" it notes that "My Family has used several actors from various past hit sitcoms" and includes several examples. One of these is "Sam Kelly from On the Up." However I would doubt On the Up would be considered by many to be Sam Kelly's most famous sitcom role.  Arguably he was better known as Warren in Porridge and Captain Hans Geering in 'Allo 'Allo!.  Dunarc (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statement about Sam Kelly in "Guest cast" section