Talk:Athrun Zala

message: Okay. Seriously, how old is this dude and why is there even a debate? Ace Class Shadow 05:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone edited the page to request that the date of birth wasn't edited.  I've removed the request from the article - notes like that need to be here on the talk page.  Once the discussion here has reached a consensus, then anyone is free to revert changes to the guy's age and date of birth to reflect that consensus.  A useful tool for keeping an eye on things like this is the watch list - that's only available if you're logged in, but it only takes a few seconds to create an account.  --Hughcharlesparker 16:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: The CE character articles have been getting messy lately, especially this one. Look at the size of quotes, notable dialogue and trivia. I say a cut down is in order. Specifically, who is it who's deciding this is 'notable dialogue' for this and other entries? --HellCat86 21:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up needed?

message: Can someone confirm that the sketches in the intro section are NOT done by Ogasawara Tomofumi? He's the only illustrator credited in the novel; there is no mention of Hirai Hisashi. --Yezhanquan
*I looked at the my copy of the second novel before I made the change. Basically, the character art at the start of the book is from model sheets Hirai did. The actual full page art seen in the rest of the book is by Tomofumi --HellCat86 03:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Illustrations in Gundam Seed novels

message: Until we are told or shown otherwise as of Final Plus Meyrin is still a possible love interest.  I see no reason why people keep editing her out as that.  If you have solid evidence that she is not a possible love interest, please show it.  Otherwise I think it should stay as it is.
: Yes, my solid evidences are their GSD OFFICIAL Files, Morosawa's latest interview in April 2006 Animedia, GSD The Edge (focusing on Athrun's point of view), and Athrun has never shown any romantic feelings towards Meyrin throughout TV GSD, Final Plus and GSD Special Editions.  According to Char Blog on 12/31/2005, few days later after GSD Final Plus was broadcasted on TV, Sunrise Seed 120% responded to question about that walking scene: "Question: who was the winner in the contest for Athrun at the end?  Answer:  Although Meyrin was with him at the epilogue of GSD Plus, it did not mean Meyrin was the winner.  Still, other people even had more chance.". Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How can Meyrin become Athrun's love interest when Athrun never showed his romantic feelings towards her?  As far as I know, it's only one-sided from Meyrin.  Ironically, in Morosawa's interview in April 2006 Animedia, although Morosawa had nice comments about Meyrin, she did not say/mention Meyrin had any possible love/romantic feelings towards Athrun.  She also did not say/mention Athrun had any possible feelings towards Meyrin.   Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Although Cagalli did not wear the ring, she was still keeping it herself in the new cutscene of GSD Special Edition IV.  Even though there's no ring on her finger, Athrun's response to Kira in episode 45 and GSD SE IV "It's fine for now.  We don't need to rush.  We have the same dream".  Though Cagalli was not with Athrun towards the end, it did not mean it was their breakup or your saying "parting ways".  Now, let's look at Final Plus again.  After that walking scene (your so-called "possible interest" that Meyrin walking/following behind Athrun), it followed with Asucaga hug scene (as seen in GS episode 43) in the ending sequence.  Few days later after GSD Final Plus was broadcasted, Sunrise Seed 120% (according to Char Blog on 12/31/2005) responded to the question about that walking scene "Question: who was the winner in the contest for Athrun at the end?  Answer:  Although Meyrin was with him at the epilogue of GSD Plus, it did not mean Meyrin was the winner.  Still, other people even had more chance."  Ishida Akira, voice actor for Athrun Zala, (in his short interview in July 2006 Animedia after hearing Athrun Zala was voted as number 5 best male character in 25th 2006 Animedia annual ranking), said that scene with Meyrin following behind Athrun was possibly a "picture service" only. Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Morosawa, the script writer for both GS and GSD, confirmed both Athrun and Cagalli have mutual feelings to each other in her interview in April 2006 Animedia.  That is, Morosawa had confirmed Athrun and Cagalli two-sided feelings. As we saw in anime, Cagalli was the only one Athrun loved.  For instance, in TV GSD episode 8 and GSD SE I, Athrun gave a ring to Cagalli and gave her a kiss.  In GSD SE I, it had new cutscene with Athrun's thinking of Cagalli. In GSD episode 45 and GSD SE IV, after seeing no ring on Cagalli's finger, Athrun responded to Kira "It's fine for now.  We don't need to rush.  We have the same dream".  And then in GSD Final Plus, Athrun gave Cagalli sudden passionate hug during Archangel took off to space. Back here, throughout the anime, besides that walking scene (which Sunrise Seed 120% immediately responded, few days after Final Plus was broadcasted, that Meyrin was not the winner), Athrun showed no romantic feelings to Meyrin at all. Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I will be more happy to join the discussion if you are willing to come up with any further solid evidence to support your sayings.  Remember, this is Wikipedia (the so-called free Internet Encyclopedia and not regular forums) which should base our discussion on facts and not personal beliefs, insights, interpretation, or speculation. Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Let me reinstate again.  This is Wikipedia (the so-called free Internet Encyclopedia and not regular forums) which should base our discussion on facts and not personal beliefs, insights, interpretation, or speculation.Boredandsleepy 07:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I have heard a variety of claims about what Ms. Morosawa and/or Mr. Fukuda have said in various alleged interviews.  The closest to evidence  I've found is Google caches of alleged translations of unknown accuracy that link to supposed orginal sites that no longer exist.  Some of those claims were interpreted as Ms. Morisawa favoring a match with Meyrin and discounting that there was ever anything between Athrun and Cagalli, which led to vocal vilification of Ms. Morisawa by some fans.  Have you got any linkage that will help neutral observers separate your comments and opinions from the article's content and help them assess the accuracy of the translation of Ms. Morisawa's remarks?  Edward321 05:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: By reading your comments about Morosawa interview, it made me believe you had never done enough research.  There are number of Morosawa interviews.  As of now, her latest one was in April 2006 Animedia.  However, at one time some people modified the content on Internet so it sounded like Meyrin was the only one who could heal and comfort Athrun.  What I tried to say is Veeh4anime was correct with her information listed above. Boredandsleepy 08:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed no evidence.  I recommend you study Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources and original research.  If nothing else, the numerous times that the Bot has reverted your edits should show that  Youtube is not a reliable source. Edward321 (talk) 04:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with ed on this one, a youtube video has little to no credibility which is why they are not acceptable refferences, and on another note if you keep adding it I will report you to a sysop if you continue to add original research. Deus257 (talk) 04:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Your personal opinions on who would be the best match for the character are no more relevant than mine. Wikipedia requires facts that come from reliable sources. Instead, you repeatedly added false claims, 'sourcing' them with Youtube links.  That would be like me using  this pic  to 'prove' that Meyrin can go into SEED mode. Edward321 (talk) 00:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love Interests 

message: i niticed that his gundams all have a single rest on them along with the mohawk and crimson colors so why not integrate it to one trivia part?--Spartan117009 02:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athruns Gundams 

message: We all now that Athrun is a one many Char clone but is he the most popular?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.203.139.2 (talk) 20:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there are no reliable sources showing he (or anyone else) is a Char clone, there's no way to determine that.Edward321 (talk) 23:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most Popular Char clone? 

message: Just as Char is referred to as the "Red Comet", Athrun's title is the "Red Knight" he is often referred by this name by Miriallia Haw during her message to the Archangel in Gundam SEED Destiny episode 24 and is often referred by this name by fans, so why isn't in his alias file?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylerwade123 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest looking up what the word alias means.  Athrun never refers to himself by that name, so it's not an alias he uses.  Miriallia use is clearly a one-shot code word, unlike Char no one else in the series refers to Athrun that way at any time.  And what some fans call him has nothing to do with it being an alias. Edward321 (talk) 02:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Knight? 

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