Talk:Balaam

message: Much of this article reads like passages of scriptures, with frequent abuse of commas, overly descriptive language, unnecessarily thorough elaborations upon lineage, and other antiquated mechanics of language which, along with the clumsy scripture references; make it difficult to follow the topic of the article. It reads like the kind of tract you'd find at a bus stop or in an airport rest room. I actually came here to refresh my memory of the basic details of the story and the article is so tough to follow, I'm going elsewhere for a version that I can parse. Please consider making this readable. 72.225.43.32 (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fundamentally unreadable 

message: One or more of the sign/s:  placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning have been removed pending further discussion. (The category :Category:Bible stories is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories) Thank you. IZAK 08:52, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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message: Why is this page using Roman Numerals to indicate chapters of the Bible?  Is there some sort of precedant for this? --Terrible Tim 00:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Numerals? 

message: Some Imams and scholars say it is the false prophet named Balaam mentioned in the bible [book of Numbers 22] ,but that is the scholars point of views .The Fact is there is NO ONE Hadith of (Muhammad) himself says that, Balaam  exist let alone  to recite his story, knowing the fact that the verse Start with {And recite (O Muhammad) to them the story of [him]} an order to to keep telling them a bout him.
This Man in Verse [7:175-176] is not Balaam.86.145.71.200 11:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  the name "Balaam" was Not mentioned even once in Qur'an or Hadiths, so the theories about this verse talking about him is just an unproven theory  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar amross (talk • contribs) 18:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quranic Verse [7:175-176], not taking about Balaam 

message: "This motif is completely dissimilar to the Biblical tradition.  According to Olrik, therefore, an identity of the two is impossible despite the identical names. [§147, 149] How is a conclusion of Olrik (1922) dismissing this 1967 discovery? Perhaps we're simply in denial. --Wetman 19:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How is this?

message: I read elsewhere, I remember quite well, that Balaam was 'one of many' false prophets who the God of Israel spoke to only at night. So while "the one true God" still conversed with them in the same way as a true prophet, for whatever reason they were ill natured. This article seems to mention something about speaking of pagan deities and visions at night and nothing beyond, I'm sure there is a source floating around out there that speaks of it in this strange fashion that I'm giving it here; a "false" prophet 'ordained' (in whatever qualified capacity) by the true God. 67.5.157.190 (talk) 11:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  False prophet to which God actually gave limited prophecy. 

message: that is the spelling in hebrew.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.159.118 (talk) 07:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bil'am is the transliteration of the original Hebrew, while Wikipedia is an English encyclopedia.  The Anglicized version of his name is used here, similar to to articles on Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah, Rebecca, Laban, Aaron and Joshua. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 22:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then that's where you'll find it in the Hebrew Wikipedia. In English, the educated reader looking for this material will search "Balaam". --Wetman (talk) 22:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  why is the article not under bil'am? 

message: The text in this section does not give a summary or analysis of the story of Balaam and the Donkey (as the title would imply), but rather goes at length into the various references to Balaam in the Bible and their provenance.  It seems to me that the section is therefore either (A) grossly mislabeled, or (B) ridiculously incomplete. TheCormac (talk) 16:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balaam and the Donkey: Text does not match title 

message: The article currently says:
:::Due to his behavior with the Midianites, the Rabbis interpret Balaam as responsible for the behavior during the heresy of Peor
Actually, I believe that this could also be the result of the text in the Torah itself - specificly Numbers 31:16, which specificly suggests that Balaam was responsible for this. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balaam's behavior and the heresy of Peor 

message: The book of Jasher has a lot of information about Balaam.  I beleive that Balaam who is the son of Beor is the son of Laban, who is the son of Bethuel, who is the son of Nahor.  here are some sources for this.
Book of Jasher, Chapter 64:  Note that Beor is referred to as the Syrian
26 And Balaam the son of Beor the Syrian was there in the camp of Zepho, for he came with the children of Chittim to the battle, and Balaam was a man highly honored in the eyes of Zepho and his men. 
Book of Jasher, Chapter 30:  Note that Beor is Laban's son.
18 And in the fourth year of Jacob's residence in the house of Laban, the Lord visited Laban and remembered him on account of Jacob, and sons were born unto him, and his first born was Beor, his second was Alib, and the third was Chorash.
Genesis Chaper 25:19:  refers to Laban as Syrian and his father as Syrian. (they are sited as Syrians in other place in the bible)
And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Paddan- aram, the sister of Laban the Syrian, to be his wife.
(this is my first time siting something so I proably did it wrong)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharTind (talk • contribs) 17:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: But it's an unknown book, so how have you read it? See Book of Jasher (biblical references). Dougweller (talk) 18:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgot, maybe this forgery - Book of Jasher (Pseudo-Jasher). Dougweller (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Sefer haYashar (midrash) then, and I'll have to see what it is being used to source. It's medieval. Dougweller (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It was used for 'Shem', they sited the copy of googlebooks but it is the same book. CharTind (talk) 22:32, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balaam's Ancestry 

message: The section on Balaam in the New Testament (second paragraph) states: "However, this Balaam was the son of Bezer while the one in the Old Testament account of Balaam in Numbers 22–24 in which King Balak hires the renowned Balaam to curse his enemies (Israel) is the son of Beor." However, there is no citation for this, and Christian scholarly resources state that Bezer (or Bosor) is simply the Aramaic translation for Beor (see: http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/bosor.html). For all intents and purposes, Christian teachings agree that Balaam son of Bezer is the same as Balaam son of Beor. This paragraph needs a citation proving otherwise or should be amended to reflect this. ~ @bzyouthdirector— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.186.235 (talk • contribs) 
:I can't find any editorial or authorial information about christiananswers.net's encyclopedia, which is required to determine if it's a reliable source.  The section is unsourced original research, however, so I've grabbed what I could off Google Books. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balaam son of Bezer 

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message: This article should be ordered chronologically. It makes no sense to have the oldest evidence of Balaam, the Deir Alla inscription, at the end. Amplifysound (talk) 17:06, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I attempted to remedy this, but someone thought the current mess was "cleaner." Temerarius (talk) 23:28, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Still attempting. Folks, stop trying to get rid of it. Demoting it to the bottom of the page would cause a POV problem. Temerarius (talk) 02:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronological order

message: Sooner or later this article will need to be fixed for NPOV. In the meantime, please stop trying to minimize references to the inscription. It's an incredibly important inscription about a not-that-important biblical figure. Get over it. Temerarius (talk) 05:21, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody is trying to do that. You are attempting a "quick fix" and that's just not what hatnotes are for. Srnec (talk) 01:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV