Talk:North–South MRT line

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message: How many more referneces is needed for this page? I thought these references should be enough.--LAi zhen kang (talk) 06:45, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: Is it possible for someone to confirm if there is a working name for NS6? Once heard that the station working name is actually Kadut based on newspaper report from the 90s. Would it be possible to get a source? -115.66.196.146 (talk) 15:32, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  NS6 working name? 

message: Hello. I have been working on a new version of the NSL page and I will like some feedback. Every opinion is important and I do not wish to make further big edits without knowing the thoughts of my fellow editors. Thank you.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Redrafting the NSL page

message: As the name implies, the North South line connects central and southern Singapore to the north of the island but also connects the north with the west. The line is  long and is predominantly double track, widened to three tracks for short sections at Woodlands station, Yishun station and Ang Mo Kio station, and four tracks at Jurong East station. 
The North South line begins above ground at Jurong East station, and continues north above a set of elevated viaducts, with the exception of a short tunnel between Bukit Batok and Bukit Gombak stations and a surface section of track between Bukit Gombak and Choa Chu Kang stations.
The line curves from Yew Tee to Kranji stations, from which it continues eastwards and paralles several main roads, such as Woodlands Avenue 3 (which the line briefly cuts underneath between Kranji and Marsiling stations) and Avenue 7. After Semabwang station, the line follows the route of Canberra Link and Yishun Avenue 3, curving southwards. Between Khatib and Yio Chu Kang stations, paralleling Lentor Avenue, the line continues at surface level, with this section being the longest distance between any two MRT stations in Singapore.
The line continues above ground for Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio stations, then it goes back to surface level and serves the MRT system's only at-grade station Bishan station. After Bishan, the line goes underground through the Central Area. The line runs parallel to the East West line at City Hall and Raffles Place stations, which are also cross-platform interchanges to the EWL. The line then ends at Marina South Pier. 
The NSL branches off to Bishan Depot between Ang Mo Kio and Bishan stations. 
More works on the route. What do yall think?--ZKang123 (talk) 07:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that has been debated before, but I am not completely sure. I think it is best to ask  who proposed to change the name once.--ZKang123 (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft for route prose

message: The North South line forms an incomplete loop from Jurong East in the west side of Singapore, north to Sembawang, and south to downtown. It is  long and is predominantly double-tracked, but certain short sections at Woodlands station, Yishun station and Ang Mo Kio station widen to three tracks, and four tracks at Jurong East station. The line begins above ground at Jurong East station from where it continues north on a set of elevated viaducts, with the exception of a short tunnel between the Bukit Batok and Bukit Gombak stations and a surface section of track between the Bukit Gombak and Choa Chu Kang stations. The line curves from the Yew Tee to Kranji stations and continues eastwards, paralleling several main roads including Woodlands Avenue 3 (which the line briefly cuts underneath between Kranji and Marsiling stations) and Avenue 7.
After Semabwang station, the line follows the route of Canberra Link and Yishun Avenue 3, curving southwards. Between the Khatib and Yio Chu Kang stations parallel to Lentor Avenue, the line continues at surface level; this section contains the longest distance between any two MRT stations in Singapore. The line continues above ground for the Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio stations, then it goes back to surface level for Bishan station, the MRT system's only at-grade station. After Bishan, the line goes underground through the Central Area. It runs parallel to the East West line at the City Hall and Raffles Place stations, which are also cross-platform interchanges to the East West line. The line terminates at Marina South Pier. The NSL branches off to Bishan Depot between Ang Mo Kio and Bishan stations.
Comment: Is there a reason why "North South line" is written out with a lower-case "L"? Even though official signs have it capitalized? --Truflip99 (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that has been debated before, but I am not completely sure. I think it is best to ask  who proposed to change the name once.--ZKang123 (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy edit

message: I need to know what else is needed for the lead, because I can't find what is still missing. Can you please elaborate on how it can be improved? Besides, I also hope to see what other issues are there to be resolved.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Use Red Line (Sound Transit) as an example. Also, make sure you aren't putting refs in the lead -- that's best for the body. --Truflip99 (talk) 19:33, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I have embellished the lead with the necessary details. Any other issue are there for the article?--ZKang123 (talk) 04:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Truthfully, this article has improved quite a lot. The only other thing I would do right now is to get rid of that long quote that does even have a source to it. Kudos to all the work you two did. I certainly think it's fit for a review. Since I contributed to this unofficial peer edit I'll give it a few days for someone else to grab this. There is currently a GA review marathon and I'm sure it will get picked up in no time. Cheers. --Truflip99 (talk) 04:59, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead

message: , ,  - for your consideration + input. I intend to apply this template to the other line articles in due time. Zoom out on your browser for a side-by-side comparison. 
Old
Station Number	Station Name     	Image	Interchange/Notes
              	Jurong East      	     	This station was upgraded with new platform and new track on 27 May 2011.Cross-Platform Interchange with the   Interchange station with the  (2028)
              	Bukit Batok      	     	
              	Bukit Gombak     	100px	
              	Brickland        	     	Future infill station (mid 2030s)
              	Choa Chu Kang    	     	Interchange station with the  and the  (2027)
              	Yew Tee          	     	 
              	Sungei Kadut     	     	Future infill station. Interchange station with the  (mid 2030s)
              	Kranji           	     	 
              	Marsiling        	     	 
              	Woodlands        	     	Interchange station with the
              	Admiralty        	     	
              	Sembawang        	     	 
              	Canberra         	     	Infill station, reduces congestion on both Yishun and Sembawang MRT Stations
              	Yishun           	     	
              	Khatib           	     	 
              	Yio Chu Kang     	     	 
              	Ang Mo Kio       	100px	Interchange station with the  (2030)
              	Bishan           	     	This station was upgraded since 2007 and was split into two side platforms between 27 July 2008 and 23 May 2009.Interchange station with the
              	Braddell         	     	
              	Toa Payoh        	     	 
              	Novena           	     	 
–             	Newton           	     	Connected to the
              	Orchard          	     	Interchange station with the  (2022)
              	Somerset         	     	
              	Dhoby Ghaut      	     	Interchange station with the  and  lines.
              	City Hall        	     	Cross-Platform Interchange with the
              	Raffles Place    	     	Cross-Platform Interchange with the
              	Marina Bay       	     	Interchange station with the  and the  (2022)
              	Marina South Pier	     	
 
New 
Legend
Elevated station    	Wheelchair accessible	Cross-platform transfer   	Bus interchange
Ground-level station	Bicycle facilities   	Separate platform transfer	     Other transportation
Underground station 	Civil Defence Shelter	Transfer outside paid area	     Other transportation
List
Station code   	Station name              	Images	Interchange;Adjacent transportation                                                        	Opening
          	Jurong East               	      	 East West Line    Jurong Region Line   (2028) ―  Jurong East     	5 November 1988;
          	Bukit Batok               	      	 Bukit Batok                                                                          	10 March 1990;
          	Bukit Gombak              	100px 	rowspan="2"                                                                                	10 March 1990;
               	BricklandInfill station   	      	mid-2030s                                                                                  	
          	Choa Chu Kang             	      	 Bukit Panjang LRT    Jurong Region Line   (2027) ―  Choa Chu Kang	10 March 1990;
          	Yew Tee                   	      	                                                                                           	10 February 1996;
               	Sungei KadutInfill station	      	Downtown Line  (mid-2030s)                                                                 	mid-2030s
          	Kranji                    	      	rowspan="2"                                                                                	10 February 1996;
          	Marsiling                 	      	                                                                                           	10 February 1996;
     	Woodlands                 	      	 Thomson-East Coast Line  ―  Woodlands                                      	10 February 1996;
          	Admiralty                 	      	                                                                                           	10 February 1996;
          	Sembawang                 	      	 Sembawang                                                                            	10 February 1996;
          	Canberra                  	      	                                                                                           	2 November 2019;
          	Yishun                    	      	 Yishun                                                                               	20 December 1988;
          	Khatib                    	      	                                                                                           	20 December 1988;
          	Yio Chu Kang              	      	 Yio Chu Kang                                                                         	7 November 1987;
          	Ang Mo Kio                	100px 	 Cross Island Line   (2030) ―  Ang Mo Kio                                   	7 November 1987;
     	Bishan                    	      	 Circle Line  ―  Bishan                                                     	7 November 1987;
          	Braddell                  	      	                                                                                           	7 November 1987;
               	Toa Payoh                 	      	 Toa Payoh                                                                            	7 November 1987;
               	Novena                    	      	                                                                                           	12 December 1987;
–    	Newton                    	      	 Downtown Line                                                                   	12 December 1987;
               	Orchard                   	      	 Thomson-East Coast Line   (2022)                                                	12 December 1987;
     	Somerset                  	      	                                                                                           	12 December 1987;
          	Dhoby Ghaut               	      	 North East Line    Circle Line                                        	12 December 1987;
          	City Hall                 	      	 East West Line                                                                  	12 December 1987;
     	Raffles Place             	      	 East West Line                                                                  	12 December 1987;
     	Marina Bay                	      	 Circle Line    Thomson-East Coast Line   (2022)                       	4 November 1989;
          	Marina South Pier         	      	 Marina South Pier   Marina Bay Cruise Centre                                    	23 November 2014;
Cheers, Tiger7253 (talk) 08:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see what you are trying to do. But Im a bit ambivalent. Because it may contravene WP:NOTGUIDE, and there's like certain limits on what we can input. I will ask others for input, maybe like .--ZKang123 (talk) 08:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've tried to limit the glyphs to encyclopaedically relevant information - station's topography (elevated/at-grade/subterranean), interchange type, presence of SCDF shelter, accessibility (also present in London Underground articles), and linked transportation modes. Other glyphs like lifts, bathrooms etc would unambiguously infringe notguide. The glyph that represents bicycle racks is grey area though so I'll leave that one up to the rest of you. Tiger7253 (talk) 09:35, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally, except for paid-transfer, wheelchair accessibility and bus/other transport interchange information, I haven't really seen the other types of info being displayed on rapid-transit station listings. Underground/at-grade/elevated info may be questionable, since the location of the station in relation to the ground is part of the description of the station, but at the same time it could be a bit trivial. Listing whether a transfer is a cross-platform interchange or a separate-platform interchange would almost definitely violate NOTGUIDE; it should be sufficient to say whether a transfer is in a paid area, or whether the transfer requires leaving the system and then reentering. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your input. I'll wait for the others to chime in. I'd like to retain the glyphs that denote the stations' roles as civil bomb shelters because I believe a summary of this information on station listings has encyclopaedic value in the context of Wikiproject Singapore. A great number of underground stations (but not all) are effectively purpose-built bunkers moonlighting as train stations with reinforced concrete station boxes buried deeper underground than non-bunker stations, steel blast doors, and other emergency paraphernalia quite conspicious to passengers passing through these stations. This info may be absent in other rapid transit articles but it's a quirk unique to Singapore's transportation system. There is of course the Moscow Metro's bunker system but that is a Soviet-era anachronism, unlike the Singapore MRT's bunker system which is very much an active, highly-publicised scheme with several planned for the newer lines opening decades from now. To the best of my knowledge the level of emphasis that is placed on the dual role of train stations in Singapore is absent in other jurisdictions. Tiger7253 (talk) 17:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot to mention that I'm actually fine with listing whether a station is a CD shelter. ZKang123 told me offwiki that apparently this is pretty common in Singapore, so this is also potentially useful information. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

text:  In my opinion, only the connection information, paid/unpaid transfers and CD shelter glyphs should be retained. The nature of the interchanges (that is, whether it is cross-platform or otherwise), and the presence of bicycle racks violates NOTGUIDE, and the nature of the stations and wheelchair accessibility are relatively trivial. Information regarding future infill stations should also be included with the interchange information (in a "Notes" section) rather than added as separate notes. R22-3877 (talk) 09:09, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your input. I'm willing to make the changes, but I'm curious as to why elucidating on the nature of interchange stations infringes NOTGUIDE when done in station listings but not on individual station pages (see Bayfront, City Hall, Raffles Place). It only seems logical to enforce a blanket ban across all rapid transit articles if it's a true violation, otherwise it's quite arbitrarily enforced. Tiger7253 (talk) 20:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  On the individual station pages, the presence of a cross-platform interchange is (or should be) written as part of a section on the station's design, while on the station listings, the nature of the interchange station is stated independently, in a manner that would be more befitting of a guide on how to use the MRT rather than an encyclopedia. Given that, most of the content regarding the nature of interchange stations in the individual station articles would probably need to be rewritten (they currently just state that the stations are one of a few in the MRT system to have cross-platform interchanges). R22-3877 (talk) 02:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  The changes are now live on North South Line and will be replicated across the board pending final consensus from everyone. I took some inspiration from the HK MTR articles and added colour boxes next to interchange lines (see Tseung Kwan O line's station list). Tiger7253 (talk) 13:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul of stations list