Talk:City of Thuringowa

message: The fact that Thuringowa has a McDonalds / Subway / Pizza Hut doesn't seem to be notable in any way.  Just bringing it up because if I remember correctly Wikipedia has a policy regarding things that aren't notable.  I imagine it helps them do things like scrap articles like 'List of roundabouts in Thuringowa' and the like.  I'd probably check out the pages for London / Tokyo / New York as a reference - I can imagine they're more heavily edited and so would give a good idea of what deserves to be included. 202.173.147.28 05:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thank you for your POV i listed this small part about Thuringowa having Fast food as it is info that peopel coming here want to know and i have to ask why did you say this 'List of roundabouts in Thuringowa' i never started a artical called this. i have looked at pages like you said and this is why i have added what i did when you look up some in Wiki you want as much info as you can get so peopel know what is here what they can see and do here so im must say sorry but i feel that all the info on this page is Notable.
thank you Thuringowacityrep 10:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole idea is that this meant to be an online encyclopedia, and an encyclopedia wouldn't list all the shopping centres (including corner stores), schools and fast food places.  For fariness sake you should probably list every last store meeting the criteria, and for notabilities sake you probably shouldn't list any.  I don't think the idea is to put "as much info as you can get" here - perhaps that's something for a tourism site, and even then I don't think they'd want the lists.  Just my two cents. 202.173.147.28 16:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To be fair I think schools and shopping centres (though, as you said, not corner stores) would be listed - I would be surprised if an entry on Perth did not have a mention of Hale School for example - although the detail may well be more suited to suburb articles. Orderinchaos78 23:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Review comments

message: I object to the following inaccuracies (in order of importance):
*State Electoral Districts do not distinguish the Cities from each other the boarders for all three levels of Government are determined independently from each other.
*The whole infrastructure section needs referencing, but in particular; The City Council has nothing to do with where Hospitals or medical centres are placed, State Government controls the public Hospitals and private hospitals are managed by their owners under regulatory scope of the Federal Government.
*reference number 4 does not fit with the fact it is referencing
*the info about the weather station needs to be either sourced or more specific, eg. who is building the weather station.
*For consistency with the Townsville articles the population estimates should remain at medium projection, and now that it is 2007 the text should read 'with a 2006 population estimated at 61,072 people' until the 2007 projections are released or at least identify that the pop projection is in the high range of the 2006 projection. 
*There is no such thing as Thuringowa CBD, there is Thuingowa Central. 
I will be happy to remove the notice once most of the inaccuracies have been corrected, if no one wants to do it, I will do so in a few days time.  WikiTownsvillian 15:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked into reference no.4 - it pointed to an unrelated customer service award article. So far there is only a side reference on a Thuringowa page to this award  and another here (Aug 2005) . Strangely the ABC suggest that Nebo was the 2005/06 winner, while Innisfail was 2004/05.  I've put a citation needed tag on it until this can be cleared up. With regards to the CBD/Central issue, no official publications use "Thuringowa CBD", however it is in sufficient usage (including, ironically, on Townsville council's webpage)  that I think it's safe to use. Orderinchaos78 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment, while I do dispute the factual accuracy of the term Thuringowa CBD it is not a big issue for me, that is why I put it at the bottom of the list of importance and stated in my closing sentence that I would not be requiring all the issues to be addressed. WikiTownsvillian 00:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Hi Thuringowacityrep, I think that that is his opinion and and while he is a very influential person he doesn't really have a say in the matter other than lobbying other levels of Government and private investors.  Even if he had said this publicly and that could be cited maybe... I would suggest removing the first sentence until the Mayor or someone in Government comments publicly about Thuringowa being the only city of its size not to have a hospital and the fact that the Northern Beaches would be a preferred site. I have no objection to the reference to Thuringowa residents relying on the Townsville based hospitals, you could even say that one of the arguements for moving Townsville Hospital to its current site was to bring it closer to western resdients that live in Thuringowa, I'm sure I've seen that somewhere. WikiTownsvillian 03:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does the area have a local rag such as the Western Suburbs Weekly or the Stonnington Leader? Mayors and councillors often get front page on there with their thoughts on a range of issues. The citation would then work something like "The mayor of Thuringowa advised local media in December 2006 that the Northern Beaches area would be the best location for a future hospital (ref)" and it's verifiable, reliably sourced and NPOV (as you're attributing it as the considered opinion of a named individual). Orderinchaos78 04:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: it's a chat site... how does that contribute anything? WikiTownsvillian 09:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the link - however, there's nothing there that is really searchable from a Google point of view as far as I can see - it is really just a small group of people's opinions on current developments in the Townsville and Thuringowa area. You could almost get better info off the shopping centres' own websites. Orderinchaos78 07:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy disputed

message: How is Thuringowa actually pronounced? Is it like thoo-RING-oh-wah, or -goh-, or -gow-, or some other? Orderinchaos78 07:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I pronounce it Tha - ung - gow - a  but TCR may have a link to a proper pronunciation guide.  WikiTownsvillian 07:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Cool... I just had the crazy idea then of phoning their main number (at what would be 10:30pm local time) and seeing how the answering service pronounced it - "Thurrin-gow-ah" with the first part sounding like "hurry", as it turns out. At least I now know my own idea of it was *way* out, even if I'm still not completely certain what it actually is yet :) Orderinchaos78 11:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick one 

message: Each claim must be referenced even if it's from the same reference. see WP:CITE Michellecrisp 09:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Referencing

message: This phrase in its short history the school has developed traditions for academic excellence, sporting and cultural achievement is POV. Most schools make a claim for academic excellence, cultural excellence etc, but how do you measure it? it's WP:SCHOOLCRUFT. Michellecrisp 01:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: School

message: The second and third paragraphs have been removed from this article. Firstly, according to the Queensland Govt. reports arising from the council amalgamations, Thuringowa does not have a city centre, and therefore cannot have a CBD by definition. Additionally, paragraph three is meaningless, loaded with weasel phrases, plus the QLD Govt. report does not concur with the assumptions and position that the paragraph tries to take. Thewinchester (talk) 12:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of information 

message: OK, ive got a few issues with this section:
* In the projected populations bit, the reference quoted says three figures; low, medium and high, why does the article use the high projections? is it to promote Thuringowa as growing rapidly? To be fair, the "medium" projection should be used.
* The purpose of the table is generally to show how the population has developed over a period of time, as such, i dont think that having so many years quoted from the 90's is really appropriate, and should be trimmed to an appropriate size. Thanks. Twenty Years 15:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics Section 

message: Anyone care to comment on the above article, I think it has too much overlapping content with Media in Townsville. Michellecrisp (talk) 04:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Media in the City of Thuringowa]]

message: Since I'm fixing them up for the rest of Queensland, I got the following sources which provide accurate census populations for every census since 1954:
* Queensland Year Book No.29 (1968), Comm Bureau of Census & Statistics, p.69
* Queensland Year Book No.38 (1978), Australian Bureau of Statistics QLD office, p.93
* 2403.0 (ABS) Number of Persons and Dwellings, Legal Local Government Areas, Queensland (1991) (p.71)
* Time Series Profile (on website for Thuringowa (C) (Local Government Area) under "Community Profiles"
As such, I added them to the article. Interesting how Thuringowa actually looks very like the Sunshine Coast in the timing and magnitude of changes, as well (although the SC kept going at a similar rate after the beginning of the 90s) - would be interesting to see what initatives at Government and local level had contributed to this. Orderinchaos 03:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population stats 

message: What we must remember is that wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and that random statistics on a former LGA, including its "projected future population" do not belong here, in a demographics section. It adds nothing to the article, and the table there has no context. Since i removed the table, ive noticed that Townsville's population projections have been added here too, this section is about the demographics of Thuringowa when it existed, not about Townsville's. Five Years 07:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep in mind this is a former LGA, I'm unaware of any such pages where population projections are maintained (as opposed to simply population at given censuses in times past). Current ones, yes, plenty have them. That being said, I have no strong opinion either way on this particular one. Orderinchaos 09:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population Projections 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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