Talk:Green Bay, Wisconsin

message: How come no pictures of lambeau field? Or maybe mention that Schneider National is HQ'd out of there. Just seems relevant.
Anyone have any photos of the city to add to the article? HollyAm 17:46, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, anyone know how to get the extra row & column out of the infobox? -Nick 04:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  Tomertalk 00:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, man! :) -Nick 00:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: np. :-)  Tomertalk 00:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text: As for what pic would work: as somebody who doesn't know the place at all, I find the photos already provided really help with the surroundings, but don't tell me much about what the centre looks like. Is there a central business or municipal center? TheGrappler 09:34, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: Should mention be made of the recent arrests of two East High students who were plotting a Columbine-like attack  at the school?  There is a section discussing the Greybuffalo murder, and given the national media attention of this incident, there might be reason to bring it up in the article.  Ideas?  --Caen 15:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would oppose such mention since Wikipedia is WP:NOT Wikinews, and I tend to think articles already have a presentist bias. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 19:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you, that's a good point.  --Caen 13:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: I do not see the merit of including Nick Mortensen under the "Famous Residents" heading.
His placement seems like a baseless attempt to garner interest for his comedy routine.  I suspect his addition was as a promotional tool by either him or a representative.  At any rate, it doesn't make sense to include him, as he currently is neither significant to the culture of Green Bay nor does he hold any viable promise to transform into anything significant (or so it seems).
Forgive the venom -- it's a personal peeve of mine when locals try to use Wikipedia as a self-serving platform.
I deleted him.  If there are any objections, please feel free to offer evidence to the contrary.
24.208.27.103 18:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nick Mortensen

message: I keep coming across references to the Great Wisconsin Fire of 1871 which killed over 600 people and left 1.25 million acres burned. Apparently it started near Green Bay, does anyone know anything about this. I cannot seem to find anything on wiki about it. IvoShandor 08:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Peshtigo Fire, nevermind. Sorry. IvoShandor 08:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Great Wisconsin Fire

message: I started an article about Preble, Wisconsin which is now part of Green Bay. I am still not sure of the main streets or major landmarks in the Preble neighborhood in Green Bay. If there are any photos of the Preble neighborhood would someone please add them to the Preble, Wisconsin article?Thank you-RFD (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: Is it unreasonable to expect Green Bay's "notable residents" to be notable outside of Green Bay?  A lot of these types of lists can become unwieldy as people begin to add their friends or relatives to them.  I don't want to arbitrarily start deleting people off the list until we can come to some kind of consensus on a standard for inclusion, but it does appear to need some trimming.
Thoughts? Carbondate (talk) 04:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: usually Ive seen the criteria that if the person is notable enough for a wikipedia page, they are notable enough to be included in these lists. 82.41.26.17 (talk) 17:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable residents section.

message: Just made a few edits to the page. One is worth mentioning here. The page had said, "A small trading post...was established by Nicolet at this location in 1634, making Green Bay the 13th oldest permanent settlement in America." I know that Green Bay is a surprising early settlement, especially given its location, but saying 13th seemed worth checking. The page List of North American cities by year of foundation is not very reliable by any means, but it is useful for getting a sense of this kind of thing. By its ranking, Green Bay is far from 13th. Of course that page has some obvious problems (like listing Boston twice). However, it serves to point out the need for a more specific context for making claims like this. Obviously, there were many many Native American settlements long before, so the claim needs to say something like "non-indigenous". Then there is the ambiguity of what "America" means. I'm guessing in this case it means the territory that is now the United States. There's also some cases where "permanent" and "date founded" are open to debate, like Pensacola, Florida. Anyway, it looked like the date was referenced but the claim of "13th oldest" was not, so I changed it to "one of the oldest". Ideally, claims like this should be referenced, especially since there is no simple way for us Wikipedians to invent an objective way to make rankings like this. Even saying "one of the oldest permanent settlements in America" still needs some clarification over what "America" means, and a mention of "non-indigenous", or words to that effect. Pfly (talk) 09:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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message: I propose that Climate of Green Bay, Wisconsin be merged into Green Bay, Wisconsin. The information in the climate article is largely identical to what we find in Green Bay, Wisconsin#Climate. There are some useful sources we can bring here and then we can make a redirect on the old Climate page MakeSense64 (talk) 09:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken care of it. HuskyHuskie (talk) 06:18, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: The article says that locals say "The Bay of Green Bay" to refer to the adjacent part of lake Michigan.  I live in Green Bay (the city) and people overwhelmingly say 'The Bay' to refer to the water.  "The bay of Green Bay" may be more prevalent in scholarly articles but it is not in common use with 'locals'.   People may use 'the Bay of Green Bay' in a technical report on the fishery, but a local would always say 'I went fishing on the bay'.
:I think 'the bay' should be directly substituted or the anecdote about local naming should be omitted entirely.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.103.131.118 (talk) 00:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think perhaps the editor above misunderstands.  Yes, the locals do say "the bay" in most of their local interactions, as it's the only "bay" to be considered; it's quite common throughout the English-speaking world to use a generic term instead of the proper noun if no confusion is likely.  But when talking to others (visitors, on the phone to non-locals), on such occasions when we who are not from the area would refer to the body of water as "Green Bay", they say, "the Bay of Green Bay".  And as one who was quite struck by this upon first exposure, I think it should stay.  (Indeed, they feel strongly enough about it that it has been the subject of some debate over at Green Bay (Lake Michigan), as you can see here.  Indeed, that article was originally called Bay of Green Bay. HuskyHuskie (talk) 12:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As another Green Bay resident, I think it should stand as "bay of Green Bay". I agree with the above editor's comments. JaykeBird (talk) 11:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  'The bay of Green Bay'?  

message: The Green Bay Police Department is not notable independent of the city itself. Its article is not likely to become substantial. Recommend merging with city article.  -- Mesconsing (talk) 14:48, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the article, I agree with this change. The article has barely enough information to be considered an article, and can easily be added into this one. JaykeBird (talk) 11:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: I understand that tornadoes are rare in the Green Bay area, although the strongest, according to http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com was an F3 that hit the community of Pittsfield on June 26, 1969, which dissipated in Pulaski.--Kevjgav (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate 

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message: I moved the former Mass Transit section into a Commuter Transit section within the larger Transportation section, which I think was appropriate. The Mass Transit section fits with transportation, and did not have enough unique information to be a standalone section from Transportation. Fredsteve3 (talk) 23:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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replies: text: . The coordinates in the article appear to me to be correct, they are sourced, and you've provided no explanation. If you think that they are erroneous, you'll need to be more clear about your concerns. Deor (talk) 06:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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