Talk:Farb (reenactment)

message: I provided the true origin of this term. The business about "Far be it for me to criticise," while widespread, is incorrect, as my research shows. - Jonah Begone
:This is extremely specific. I question the encyclopedic value of this as a separate article.
:Peter Isotalo 18:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * Here is the response I got:
You ask about the origin of the word "farbische" in my book on reenacting. I have gone back to my dictionaries of German, and agree that this is probably not a proper German term. what I suspect is that when I toured a printing plant, I mistook the term for applying the inks and dyes to creating the finished product. Years later, when I wrote my book, this confusion remained. Farbe means color, and I may have also mistaken it for a shortened version of "fabrik" or "fabrizieren", which is to manufacture. In short, I goofed by relying on my memory instead of checking the Duden. Hopefully, I won't "duden" it again!
Hadden (talk) 19:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: * I'm opposed to the proposed merge. Although farb and authenticity are related, and might be considered opposite ends of a continuum, they are not the same topic. It's a bit like merging War and Peace, Hatred and Love, or any other such antonym pair. cmadler (talk) 15:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Authenticity (reenactment)]] 

message: I am aware that wikipedia had no way of knowing, but the person in the photogragh you are using has recently passed away. He was a well-liked member of the reenacting community here in Virginia and I feel that it is in bad taste to continue to use his photogragh. As the word spreads, I am sure you will be getting messages from many others that feel the same. Whether it is a representation of the term or not is irrelevant when it comes to honoring the memory of a friend.MichaelBeck67 (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your comments. I can certainly appreciate the desire not to have a recently-deceased comrade associated with a derogatory term. I would suggest that the best way to get this photograph off Wikipedia (or at least out of this article) would be to provide a replacement photograph that does as good a job or better at illustrating the topic(s). So if you have a good photo that you have taken of a suitably farby-looking reenactor, you could upload it to Wikipedia. Or if you know someone with such a photo, you could encourage them to upload it. If you need help with uploading an image and inserting it in the article(s), let me know. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 14:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Another idea would be to upload a version of the photo in which his face is pixellated, blurred, or otherwise obscured. cmadler (talk) 14:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize this is an old post, but I thought I'd post an idea in the event that this problem might still be resolved.  In my neck of the woods, you rarely hear "farb" applied to a person but rather to objects (i.e., in the case of a 21st century object in camp: "get that farb off the company street," or "that's one farby cap.").  So, I think the photo could be replaced with objects rather than a person.  It's unfortunate to make someone the "poster-child" for farbiness.  Especially someone who's passed on relatively recently.  I'd be willing to set up a photo of something like a farby cap vs. an authentic one if any interested editors of this article feel it's appropriate. Historical Perspective (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is fine, in theory, except that this article reflects the sources used, and suggests that the term relates first and foremost to the individuals and secondly to the material they use. So an image of an individual (such as the image in question) is preferred over an image of just material. cmadler (talk) 12:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honoring fallen comrades 

message: 1. Cigarettes did exist (maybe not in their current form) in the Civil War. 
2. It is cruel to say someone is farby because of their weight. A different picture (such as a reenactor in tennis shoes) is advisable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.250.209 (talk) 23:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: http://www.livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30346 is the term in the UK.
FWIW a backronym is almost certainly NOT the original meaning. Most likely is from an English or German source. Farbe - sounds sensible, but so could fabricated or some relationship to this. As things are now a folk etymology is what we have.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.82.138.16 (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wang 

message: The main photo at the beginning of the article, with the three civil war reenactors standing around the small cannon - the use of the photo, and the caption for the photo, assert that these reenactors are "farbs". Since what constitutes a farb appears to be a matter of subjective judgement, and this photo is the original work of a Wikimedia contributor, the judgement of "farbyness" of the people in the photo does not come from a reliable secondary source and is therefore unverifiable original research that "illustrate[s] or introduce[s] unpublished ideas or arguments." Note the policy states "image captions are subject to this policy no less than statements in the body of the article." Mmyers1976 (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo as of October 2015 - Original Research