Talk:Vaginal flatulence/Archive 1

message: This article ranked 817th (1881 hits) in the list of pages from English Wikipedia with more than 1000 hits in Feb 2004. All sex-related topics seem to rank highly. A note for anyone who thinks it's not of encyclopedic interest to the internet audience... Jamesday 10:50, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Article rank

message: This is a note to the edit comment of Harmil, which was We should discuss the concept of a sub-genre, but not advertise single movies related to the removal of link to Amber, The Lesbian Queefer.
Is it an advertisement to refer to one of the most widely known movie of the genre? I'd think of it as an easy way pointing out there really are such. So kind of citing sources imho. --Easyas12c 05:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just don't see what it buys you, encyclopedicly. It doesn't tell you more about the topic, expand on the meaning, give you more resources for further investigation (unless you're using a very loose definition of investigation) or otherwise add to this entry. You can always use "what links here" if you want to find things that reference the topic. -Harmil 09:58, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I find myself wondering... is this the only page that's in both Categories: Gynecology and Pornography? Anyway, it seems like a good thing that I removed the link in retrospect. The article is clearly one of those that your average encyclopedia would shy away from (somewhat of a neologism and sexual slang, both of which get limited if any coverage), and it's nice to see that WP can step up to these and tell it like it is without having to get adolescent about it. -Harmil 21:24, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  advertisement 

message: The slang term queef was banned from theNational Library of Medicine MeSH index.
because it is offensive for the woman dignitate and I ask to ban this term from the English Wikipedia.
-(unsigned comment by User:Roger Gianni)
:Wikipedia is not censored to protect the sensibilities of its readers. This is a real (slang) term in widespread use (as evidenced by the fact that the NIH was even discussing it). That makes it notable, and notable material is appropriate, no matter how offensive that material might be.
:That said, you have a very good factoid there, and I think that you should include in in something that looks vaguely like this:
::The slag term queef was banned from the National Library of Medicine MeSH index because it is considered offensive. 
:If you can include the correct terminology to use in a medical context, that would be great. -Harmil 19:27, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queef isn't a medical term 

message: You asked to me:
"If you can include the correct terminology to use in a medical context, that would be great".
I well appreciate your request.
The term queef don't exist in a medical contest, the patien use the term "air" or similar most generic possible term and don't use it in a gynecological contest, because this terms is not a patology or fisiology description.
I ban the link to the gynecology index, because the gynecologist, never will use this term.
Note that gynecologist isn't a censor, he simply don't have this term in his medical mind.
Personaly, I'm not a censor and I don't ask to banned the term.
Only appropriate link of this term is in the slang pornoarea.
Perhaps somebody in the future, it will think that queef isn't a adeguate term in an enciclopedia and it will ask the ban.
Hello.---- Roger tellme 16:51, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very well. I'm still not thrilled with removing that category (and I've explained why), but I'll add a different category that attempts to narrow down the topic. I still think you are employing too fine-grained a filter here, and you're missing the fact that a categorization is not an indication of endorsement, only a categorization. Still, I'll find a category to fit this into.... PS: Don't make this about me. "Dear Harmil" is not the topic of your comment, here, a change to the categorization is. -Harmil 19:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dear Harmil 

message: Your interest in the gynecological area, it make me to think as you a future possible Gynecologist, then I try to explain you, the way.
I propose you to add, at list, the exact collocation of this term, with the physiology template.
---- Roger tellme 11:52, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mean to offend, but I really don't understand what you're saying. I do think you (incorrectly) assume that the :Category:Sexual anatomy tag means more than it does. Please, just respond to my points above about categorization. If you don't understand, let's discuss it, but please leave Gynecology out of it. Thanks. -Harmil 12:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

text: PS: You don't need a section heading for every comment, really. -Harmil 12:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  future Gynecologist 

message: Now, I don't have any bad ideas, about queef categorization in the Sexual anatomy, becouse you are right, to tell, that in the optic of a general pourpose use, probably a girl who need to understend something about queef, search this word in the sexual anatomy area.
But here is the anatomy area, and if she find this word here, she learn a wrong idea. You teach me, that the spirit of wiki encyclopedia is to teach the exact temininology.
* Now, the corporal emission of air, generaly are about of the smell area, right?
Olfactory stimuli in female mammals.
The male mammals are actract by the olfactory stimuli of female mammals. Then I think that queef is a potent stimuli in the mechanisms of control of the reproductive function.
Then I propose to chategorizied it in the fisiologycal female reproductive area or most generaicaly in the fisiologycal medicine area, becouse there, it's talk of the female riproductive function .
---- Roger tellme 13:38, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello again. I'm not sure how anything to do with smell entered into this discussion. Since, unlike rectal flatulence, vaginal flatulence is not related to digestion, there are no waste gasses involved, and thus no oder associated with this phenomenon. This also has absolutely nothing to do with reproduction (though obviously sex itself does). -Harmil 15:50, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Male and female smells, olfactory reproductive stimuli 

message: You are right flatulence is n 1: a state of excessive gas in the alimentary canal, syn: flatulency, gas but you teach me, this vaginal air is a new discover idea, that before today, nobody has give importance yet. Then, there is another significance for flatulence 2: pompously embellished language syn: turgidity, turgidness or swollen or distended, you know.
It is possible extends flatulence for the vaginal air flow or flux.
So, this vaginal air, you know, it smells like a animal parfume and stimulate the male odor, Category:Olfaction in the brain, in an activity that has its goals in a human little new born. Then flatulence, being too air of an intestinal gas, like air of intestinal gas, it smells of pheromone, and in the human, it takes the name of androstenone and it is supposed sex attractant. I think to be enought clear. Hello again.
---- Roger tellme 22:26, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, I think you're really missing the point here. If you're trying to say that pheromones are ejected along with air during vaginal flatulence, you're probably going to have to find some data to back that up as it's definitely not common knowledge nor easily provable without some form of medical or scientific means. Females do not vaginally flatulate in some form of pre-sexual act: commonly it is involuntary, or when voluntary, is not done to "attract a mate" nor, save in non-traditional sexual intercourse, used to stimulate a male. It just kind of happens. I think you have misunderstood this. Also I fail to see the point raised by the "pompously embellished language" portion, and I don't think it was stated anywhere that vaginal flatulence was a new discovery, because it is definitely not. As well, I should like to note that searching terms (especially in exact form) like "air vagina" makes little sense as that term itself is nonsequitur.  Shipton 13:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Animal Parfume'''