Talk:American Flagg!

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message: This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject.  If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class.  The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject.  Hiding T  15:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: An editor with a history of problematic editing, including a block and an article ban in 2016, has begun edit-warring to add a WP:SYNTH analysis based on some non-notable personal blog and his own cites to the comic. I noted in my edit summary that once he was reverted the first time, protocol per WP:BRD was to come to this talk page, with the goal of consensus with other editors. I urge other editors to weigh in. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what being blocked over the Middle East Conflict has to do with editing about Comics?  Can you expand on how you connect these two things?
173.52.38.97 (talk) 16:27, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

text: As for the blogger, R.S. Martin, all I'm finding on Google searches for "R.S. Martin" and "R.S. Martin comics" that seem related to this R.S. Martin are either his blog or one places that cites the blog. There's nothing whatsoever to support the editor's claim of "a well respected expert in the field." --Tenebrae (talk) 22:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't RS Martin an alias for a rather famous comics insider which is why that blog is so well know to Comic Book insiders..
173.52.38.97 (talk) 16:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: As for Mrbrklyn's major addition to the article, I present it below. Aside from the obvious MOS, grammatical and spelling errors, it contains fannish WP:PUFFERY like "breakthrough" and "revolutionary" — those particular claims apparently cited to Chaykin himself. The widely overreaching claims about current politics is cited to the non-WP:RS and apparently pseudonymous personal blog noted above. And the WP:EXCEPTIONAL claims of firsts and how American Flagg! singlehandedly changed comics is cited with enormous, impermissible vagueness. There may be room for a section on the series' themes and style, but this WP:UNDUE, WP:SYNTH screed is not it.
====Explored Literary Themes and Graphical Experimentation====
American Flagg explored several breakthrough themes and techniques in story telling, which up to that time was revolutionary in the Comic Book industry.  Much of the landscape of the storyline, Plexmall Chicago, was percipient of a number of political, economic and social issues which had baring on the immediate future of its publication date (1983) and which have largely manifested itself in the current age of the early 21st Century.  Corporate control of institutions without regard of government oversite through internationalization of corporate interests is an ongoing theme that relatively was new in the 1980's, but played out loudly in the 2016 Presidential Election.  Communication control, which was explored by George Orwell and others, was expanded in the Comic.  The idea of a group of octogenarian information and video hoarders who trade their access to free information and sports information echoes in today's debates on Network Neutrality and the Copyright wars, Eric Snowden, and  Aaron Swartz.  Called the Witnesses, they are described as "Senior Citizens.  Most of them are pre-collapse Rads, Bohemians, troublemakers-- the kind the Plex didn't want..so with scrounged and cannablized equiptment, they formed their own retrieval network..as well as selling social services the Plex won't provide...literacy volunteers, non-combat related education... And retrieval and cateloging of pre-collapse videotapes".
Howard Chaykin introduced new styles for framing and lettering which gives visual cues to the manipulation of the tempo of events and the flow of time.  The effect was widely adapted by artists and writers in the comic book industry and paved the way for much of the new adult targeted graphic novel industry.  Such narative pacing is considered a core skill for comic writers according to Chaykin, where he said during an interview 
"Because so much of my interest in comics is based on narrative pacing. That’s a really big deal for me. It’s very important. It’s something I think I do very well, I mean, Christ, I teach it. It’s important for me to find new ways to take advantage of the narrative structure of comics. Toldja! Long answer short question.".
--Tenebrae (talk) 19:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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