Talk:The Foundation Series/Archive 1

message: "Asimov unsuccessfully tried to end the series three times — first, at the end of Foundation (first book in series)..."
Don't believe that. It was compiled from a collection of stories, and I don't believe Asimov had any intention of stopping at that point.  Lee M 02:50, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

message: I'm like what the new opening is trying to say, but the phrasing sucks. Give me a day or two to think about it, and I'll see what I can do with it. →Raul654 03:23, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)
:I'm not a native speaker of English, so my wording might sometimes be odd - do with it whatever you want :) Ausir 19:26, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: The modified introduction

message: I think a section focused on movies based on the stories from the Foundation universe is worth adding. I know of "The Bicentennial Man" movie, "I, Robot" movie (in the works), and several episodes of Out of the Unknown, a British TV series from the 60s, based on robot short stories. I've also heard rumors of a  planned Foundation movie, but I don't know any details. Anything more? Ausir 19:25, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Raul. Jacob1207 00:22, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Foundation series on screen

message: "robot revolution started by creating a No Law Robot and then New Law Robots." 
:I think someone should write a one sentence description of what "no-law" and  "new-law" robots are. (I never read Caliban, so don't look at me) →Raul654 17:00, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)
I also haven't read it, but from what I've googled, the no law robot (Caliban) was a robot without laws of robotics implemented, and the new laws robots had the laws of robotics modified - they couldn't harm humans, but weren't required to prevent harm from happening, and the new 2nd law was that each robot had to find his own reason to being. Ausir 17:07, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Request clarification

message: I added the picture of Seldon from Hari Seldon - it needs a picture in case it gets featured on the main page :). Ausir 12:09, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: In Isaac Asimov's introduction in "Changeling" () by Stephen Leigh, referred to as being associated with the Foundation universe, Asimov explains why aliens don't appear much in his books - and says "In fact, at no point anywhere in my writing has any robot met any alien" (Introduction, page ix). 
However, in a short story of his - "Victory Unintentional", anthologised in "The Complete Robot" the ZZ-series robots encounter the aliens of Ganymede. 
Should "Victory Unintentional" belong to the Robots/Empire/Foundation universe, or be taken by itself (notwithstanding its references to positronics etc.)? Why did Asimov exclude it from his comments? Are there are other examples of robots & aliens?
ThomasTheTank 08-May-2005 0100hrs
"Let's Get Together" and "Victory Unintentional" are not part of the Robots/Empire/Foundation universe, even though they are included in The Complete Robot and feature robots obeying the Three Laws. Ausir 08:41, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robots & Aliens 

message: Cleon the Emperor and Dead Hand should be included somewhere on the page. They were written by Isaac Asimov himself, and are described as "Foundation Novellas" on the pages I linked to. I've read the foundation series randomly (determined by what I could get my hands on), so my memory might be a bit fuzzy, but I'd put Cleon the Emperor directly before Foundation, with Dead Hand directly after it.
:These are both stories included within the Foundation books.  The former became a chapter in Forward the Foundation, and the latter is included in Foundation and Empire.  Anville 19:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundation Novellas 

message: *Anyone else think that the Jedi are pretty similar to the Second Foundation?Kuralyov 4 July 2005 03:32 (UTC)
**They are similar only in one respect -- the second foundation's ability to manipulate the thoughts/emotions of others is similiar (in practice) to the Jedi mind trick. On the other hand, this is a rather small similarity, if you looked, you could probably find a half-dozen similarities elsewhere. →Raul654 July 4, 2005 03:39 (UTC)
**There are more than that, I think: the Jedi and the Second Foundation both work to preserve the galactic government; they both are/were based on the capital planet of the Galactic Empire; they both search out their new recruits at a very young age, or else it's impossible to train them; they're both run by a "Council"; they both are hunted down to extinction by the Galactic government they try to protect (or at least, in the Second Foundation's case, so they let on)...Kuralyov 4 July 2005 05:05 (UTC)
From The Darth Side: Memoirs of a Monster:
:In the tranquility born of extreme evasive manoeuvring I found my thoughts drawn to Sullust. The Force may work in mysterious ways but its sense of symmetry is uncanny: the Rebel fleet is massing on exactly the other side of the galaxy from Endor, cast off in the darkness of the opposite rim.
:Twin foundations separated by a galaxy, one sworn to uphold order and other sworn to disturb it. 
Anville 12:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impact on Star Wars