Talk:Captain Beyond

message: Kenny Reardon is listed in the former members section, but having searched the web for information on his position on the band, I cannot find any evidence that he was a member or even a musician. Can anyone provide a source? If there is no evidence to support him ever being in Captain Beyond he should not be included in the former members at all. Burbridge92 (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kenny Reardon? 

message: I'm not too happy with the recent removal of the individual members' backgrounds as they are necessary to understand why Captain Beyond is often labelled a supergroup.  Bands are often formed by ex-members of previous groups, but for the band to be considered a supergroup it's necessary that the members gained individual prominence in their past work.  The information which has been removed explained why each of the members was individually famous before forming Captain Beyond. —Psychonaut (talk) 06:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Somewhat related to this, Markandrewz, who variously claims here to be the band's manager, guitarist, vocalist, keyboardist, songwriter, and financial backer, has repeatedly claimed that Bobby Caldwell is the group's (sole) founder.  Is anyone aware of independent reliable sources corroborating these claims?  A "Mark Andrew" is listed on the band's official website as the manager, but there's no indication that he has any other role.  Also, everything I've read about the band's formation has Caldwell joining last—for example this interview with Caldwell (admittedly probably not passing WP:RS but the first thing I could find) has him explaining that Dorman and Rhino invited him to form a band, and by the time he accepted the offer Evans had already joined.  —Psychonaut (talk) 09:47, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

text: Mr. Zwartynski: Wikipedia entries are required to be based on reliable secondary sources (see WP:RS). A quirk of this policy is that individuals are not considered reliable sources for pages on themselves or their work.  Author Philip Roth went so far as to have a letter published in the New Yorker so that he could then use it as a source to correct information on his page (see here).  Most people do not have that option.  Unfortunately for Captain Beyond, there isn't much published on the band, and information added by you or Mr. Caldwell is not considered reliable unless it cites an independent source. That isn't disparaging you; it is simply Wikipedia policy. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 04:30, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

text: Dear Laszlo, Sir.  I agree with you and Wikipedia's policies.  I have stood down and not made any edits.  It is quite impressive for a gentleman as formidable as Mr. Philip Roth to have a letter published in the New Yorker in order to have a source to correct information on his page.  I agree that "Psychonaut" has not been able to identify published sources on a "Cult Supergroup" such as Captain Beyond.  The problem stems from the fact of pre-internet days.  I agree that the policy is not disparaging to me.  I am a major fan of Wikipedia and completely agree that one must adhere to its policies.  However, I do not appreciate the written attacking manner of "Psychonaut" - not for a moment.  If a person that works for me treated anyone with that attitude, that grey area of condescension, the obvious singling out of me like I was being stalked, the double entendre remarks, the curt-not caring unprofessionalism to get to the truth and the discrimination, they would not be able to stay.  I have said over and over.  Work with me.  Help me get the truth out.  help me do it within the policies of Wikipedia.  But if one posts an edit and then is lambasted and affronted, is that the right way to do things.  it is not so much what one does, rather how one does it.  That is "Psychonaut's" problem.
I will work to get the Captain Beyond page correct because it is very incorrect at the moment.  Most importantly, I will not post or provide an edit unless I am absolutely sure that it meets Wikipedia's policies.  I promise you that, Sir.
Nonetheless, I demand that Psychonaut to contact me at 214-552-0652 for a civilized succinct conversation. I will go so far and say they may contact me first at my email address: markandrew@markandrewgroup.com.
Second, I demand a written and verbal apology from "Psychonaut."
Third, I do not want to see "Psychonaut's" name ever attached to anything that I am involved with.  I do not work with people like that.  I only work with good people.  I am a reasonable person.
I am very serious about the three aforementioned points and am now promising that I will pursue all matters allowed to me by civilized peaceful society to accomplish them.   
It is quite easy.  it is in Psychonaut's court.  I am not going to wait very long.  i am expecting swift action regarding those three aforementioned points personally by "Psychonaut" and not any representatives.  Once done.  I will drop the issue and never come back to it like amnesia.  So, I await.
Respectfully,
Mark Andrew Zwartynski (markandrewz) Markandrewz (talk) 06:00, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the content, putting the information on the band's official web site and then using that as a source here would likely suffice.  Official band web sites are not ideal sources, but they are used widely on WP and would probably not be challenged on RS grounds. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of member background information 

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message: Psychonaut or whoever,
Please take out  the citation needed after my name ! I am Lewie Gold and I was a founding member of Captain Beyond and the original keyboardist!
Originally it said : Lewie Gold a well-respected from Florida before it went on to say that I left the group for personal reasons. 
You can contact Bobby Caldwell and he will confirm everything that I am saying.
You so-called experts should refrain from changing things that you know absolutely NOTHING about . I was in the group ! YOU were NOT !
I remain !
Reuben l. Gold (Lewie Gold)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by No Bozo (talk • contribs) 20:24, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation-needed 

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