Talk:Siouxsie and the Banshees

message: A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peter Fenton (guitarist) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Fenton (guitarist) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Carliertwo (talk) 23:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  December 2020: [[Peter Fenton (guitarist)]] listed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Fenton (guitarist)]]

message: Regarding the first paragraph describing the band as influential, should Siouxsie's influence be listed as the first reason for the band's fame? The following text is suggested: 
*  Cited to Goddard in this edit. If the answer is no, the band is represented as influential based on its guitarists. Binksternet (talk) 15:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Should Siouxsie be listed as the main reason the band is influential?

message: *Siouxsie first as it's her name on the band, her fashion style that was so widely emulated, her vocal style that imprinted the band's sound. She is listed as the frontwoman of the band by many media observers. Let's not erase Siouxsie from her own band. Binksternet (talk) 15:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Should we change the header image to one of the band in a different iteration?
I think most critics and commentators would agree that as influential as the original lineup was in the birth of post punk, it was the 1980-82 era with John McGeoch and Budgie that garnered the most popular acclaim and widespread influence (see recent McGeoch biography, 2022 as a source for this). In addition, Budgie was the longest serving member of the band after Sioux and Severin and he is almost synonymous with the band's image and reputation - see the bands Spotify page for instance. 
Shall we propose a new, clearer image of the band featuring these two? 81.110.11.76 (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: There was some conflict about what accolades deserved to be mention in the lead paragraph of this band's page. I think I've produced a very reasonable, balanced, and definitely-not-hagiographic-or-fanatically-overstuffed solution to the problem, with attention to avoiding the undue weight which might result from a biased, fanatical, or selective approach to reflecting the journalistic consensus and accolades that are relevant to this musical group. I'm sure all will agree with this equitable and sensible solution as it currently stands. Kkollaps (talk) 02:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Would all y'all please knock it off with the edit warring? For what it's worth, I'm mildly (say 55%) inclined to just put the accolades in the main body of the article, my second choice would be the lead as it existed before the present disruption, and I can also live with the (OBVIOUSLY POINTY) expanded accolades in the lead. I'm mostly tired of seeing a bunch of editors that I respect going back and forth on this plain disruption. Maybe step away for a few days and then see how important the first paragraph of a wikipedia article on a rock band seems. CAVincent (talk) 18:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:LEAD tells us that the topic's importance should be established right away in the lead section. Certainly the group's wide influence and chart successes should be highlighted. I'm in favor of any lead section that tells the reader how Siouxsie herself was considered a great frontwoman, especially as a positive counterpart to accolades given to the guitarist and the drummer. If the guitarist and drummer are praised in the lead section, then Siouxsie herself must also be praised. Binksternet (talk) 18:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

text: I don't think it's pointy at all. If particular members of the band are praised excessively and not the singer, that seems like undue weight. I believe Kkollaps was trying to create balance, not making a point. 203.13.3.90 (talk) 05:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead paragraph