Talk:Hellsing (manga)

message: I ran across this quote reading though the page. 
:"In the manga, Hellsing resembles a Men In Black style organisation that uses special agents such as Alucard and Walter to hunt down enemy forces. However, in the TV series, Hellsing instead utilises paramilitary armed forces, normal human soldiers doing most of the work while Alucard and company work in support."
Now I realize that the manga doesn't feature any military style incursions like the anime does, but neither does the manga state that Alucard, Walter and Seras are the hellsing organization's only 'troops' that operate as anything but guards. The manga does not state any information to contridict the militant Hellsing sugested in the anime, and so I think this section should be revised.
Can anybody provide evidence supporting the "most" claim in the "Characters found only in TV series" section.  Thanks.
:"Like those of Bubbancy and Paul Wilson, some fans believe that his appearance is disruptive and poorly explained, as well as most fans prefer to label him as your traditional "Mary Sue" Character, considering his unlimited and unexplained power, as well as complete and utter lack of faults (though some may argue that his total overconfidence is his downfall.)"
-- Balcerzak 07:49, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anime Differences

message: I have noticed a large link directly to FF7. I have played it numerous times and found several secrets including several connecting directly to Vincent. He has a lost love which you can find with the submarine and theres a story on how he was made. The secret for his lost love could translate to Seras Victoria AND/OR Integral Hellsing. This could be reason why Integral has kept him tame. Also Vincent actually looks a lot like Arucard. Vincent and Alucards costumes are very similar.They even use similar wepaons. I think the creator of this anime series was a Final Fantasy 7 fan like myself AND/OR Vice-Versa.
Genisis
:That's probably true, but I think you're grabbing at straws. Both Alucard and Vincent are very similar to other anime and video game vampires in many ways so to point out a similarity between these specific two seems almost fanboy-esque. In fact, I could say the same about the comparisons with Devil May Cry since the character archetype has existed long before Alucard was created by Hirano. Unless specifically stated by a creator, I don't think it's right to artificially generate a link between them (especially on a Wikipedia article), especially if no hint of it has ever surfaced in a director interview (that I know of). Axem Titanium 14:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alucard/Vincent Valentine

message: Merge tags relating to the following pages were removed: Alexander Anderson (hellsing) and Enrico Maxwell.
for the suggested merging, i think maxwell doesnt deserve to have his own sub site if the major doesnt have one. but anderson IS a major character without a doubt an dprobably deserves his own section. 
I think that Anderson is a major character and his site shouldn't be merged. --El jue 14:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anderson and Maxwell

message: anyone remember when the old Nazi officer hits Montana Max for not turning them into vampires, then Zorin breaks his stick? in that frame, we see Zorin and 4 shadowy figures who we assume are the "werwolves" that Schrodinger said was arriving. The first shadow is obviously Rip Van Winkle, but the other 3 shadows; have their identities been revealed yet?
reference link: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d164/kaizenyorii/WHOARETHEY.jpg
:Just random nazi soldiers? --Saphire diablo 15:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  another question 

message: This has been bugging me for some time. I should give a Spoiler Warning I suppose, so consider that... it! During Episode 6, Dead Zone, Walter joins the fight against Jan and the Ghoul army, and there's a rather excellent piece of music that kicks in just as Jan leaves Integras office with one of her cigars. The music plays throughout the fight with Walter, and I'd love to know what it's called. 86.142.153.61 03:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Question 

message: i remember a long time ago seeing a comic which takes place in the middle east. a muslim terroist group takes a chrisitan church hostage, and one of the hostages is yumi. then Hienkel arrives, whacks Yumi in the chin so she transforms, and they proceed to kill all the muslims. my question is: was this a scene from hellsing or crossfire????
*That was the first Crossfire-story. The second had Communist terrorists and the third had an apocalyptic cult. Captain Günsche 11:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't make any sense at all. The thing you saw at the convention must have been edited; the DVD releases in both North America and Japan are completely uncensored and unedited. They must have added gore to the footage shown at the convention. Schrödinger 02:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: You sure it wasn't the first OVA? Hellsing I has more blood and gore (the vicar doesn't turn to dust) and includes some of the scene where Integra's uncle tries to kill her (the "Master of Monster" chapter from the manga). Schrödinger 16:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: August 4, 2006 Schrödinger 05:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random question 

message: I ask those who edit this page and its relatives to refrain from using Japanese loanwords\slang such as "neko".  Not everyone understands what is meant.
Is there any proof that the organization is based on the Wilmarth Foundation, or is that speculation?  How do either one differ from Anne Rice's Talamasca or the Watchers of Highlander and Buffy/Angel? -- Zoe
:I have no idea. I tried real hard to find Lovecraft references through the series, but there isn't anything that immediately reminds of the Mythos. My guess is that it's just speculation, which in case shouldn't be included in the article (or at least, have a small disclaimer included).
:Another detail that seems inaccurate to me is the "Engrish" part near the end of the article. The use of the term "Sir" instead of the term "Dame" seems like just a matter of style. I'm not familiar with royal naming conventions, but I believe even females gain the title of "Sir" in situations like that. Just a thought.
::Men are referred to as "Sir ---." Women are referred to as "Lady ---."
:::No a lady is the wife of a knight, a women who earns the title of knight in her own right is almost always refered to by 'Dame'
:About the Japanese naming order, that's the way it always works in anime. The setting of the plot or the nationality of the characters have little to do with that. It's not supposed to be a mistake. The production is Japanese, and so are the rules. – Mackeriv 19:17, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A friend of mine pointed me something in Hellsing. There's a character named Chris Pickman in the series. That's probably a reference to Lovecraft's Pickman's Model. The story is not exactly related to the Mythos (just a standalone horror tale), but maybe that could be seen as the reference we've been looking for. – Mackeriv 03:26, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slang 

message: So there are two soundtracks for the Hellsing anime and they are the Raid OST and the Ruins OST. Should this be mentioned? Also, I think that there's a lot of different elements in the soundtrack so there's not punk rock even present in some tracks.
Raid and Ruins are just different collections of songs from the series, so they're not really "soundtracks", rather, parts of one big soundtrack.  They certainly could be mentioned, though. I own the two OSTs and, while not every song is punk rock, jazz, and experimental, I think you'll find every track contains elements from at least one of those genres.  I find "Raid" pretty punk rocky/jazzy and "Ruins" pretty experimental.  Of course, this is a free Wiki, so if you have a better explanation, feel free to plunk it in. :)
--Icenine0 20:46, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The soundtracks. 

message: I don't see any actual spoilers in the "The names of the characters" section. Is there anyway we can move the spoiler warning, or incorportate this information into the introduction, so people who don't want spoilers can get to it? - RedWordSmith 16:17, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't know. It does contain plot details, just like the spoiler tag says, but I don't think that section really "spoils" anything. I'll move the spoiler warning to the "Organizations and characters" section. I think that'll be okay. – Kaonashi 17:49, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Placement of Spoiler warning. 

message: From Bubbancy' section:
Her name is the phonetic pronunciation of booban she, a vampiric Scottish creature. Appears only in the anime.
I've always though her name was some kind of reference to the mythical banshees. I have no idea of what a "booban she" is supposed to be. Any ideas?--Kaonashi 22:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banshee 

message: Cleaning up this article. Moving all the major characters to their own pages, condensing info on minor characters and organisations, deleting the section on gundam stuff, but keeping the text for possible future re-working into a section on Hellsing's (considerable) influences, which could also include some mention of Baron Harkonnen and Willis. --KharBevNor 19:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Edit 

message: I removed the following info from the Kohta Hirano page because it's talking specifically about Hellsing. I'm not sure where to insert it, so I'm sticking it here. Feel free to insert it if it's not already there:
:There are many differences in plot between the original Hellsing manga and the anime series. Though the voices (with such people as Takehito Koyasu, who plays Luke Valentine) and music (done by a minor jazz fusion artist, Yasushi Ishii) were generally considered both fitting and great, the plot is totally different, even disposing of the main villains and replacing them with another that is considered by some to be not very well thought out. Hellsing has risen to a cult status among fans of the wicked and macabre. 
Enjoy. :-) --nihon 02:16, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Info removed from [[Kohta Hirano]] page

message: I changed the info surrounding his name to reflect the fact that it is the only one assosiated with him (even directly, since it's on his ID card). Unless the person who first trivialized this can provide evidence that it's strictly an injoke and not just a funny name that suits the character (like Schrödinger and Schrödinger's Cat), then the information should stay as it is. 
I know Hirano likes to make visual gags and injokes, but I don't think this is one of those times. He should have had the Major wearing a visible ID that kept changing names, if that was the intention. Captain Günsche 17:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Major 

message: I think Peter Ferguson/Fargasson/whatever should be added to the "TV series" section. Arthur Hellsing, Shelby M. Penwood, and Sir Islands/Irons should be added to the "manga/OVA series" section of "secondary characters". I also think a "minor characters" section would be a good idea (the previous one contained important secondary characters as opposed to truly minor ones). We could add characters like Father Renaldo, the Queen of England, Abraham van Helsing, Leif and Jessica, the Cheddar vicar, etc. Maybe Islands too, since he doesn't really appear enough to be counted as a secondary character (although he seems to be prominent in The Dawn).
If the character bios take up too much of the main article, we could move it to a separate article. We may end up having to do the same with the chapter listing, like they did with the Berserk articles. I don't think we should refrain from adding characters just because they take up space; we could easily solve that problem by making a separate article. Hellsing has a relatively small cast anyway.
Your thoughts? Schrödinger 06:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for more character bios 

message: Someone wrote that Integra is addressed as 'Sir' rather than 'Lady', I haven't watched the anime in a while, but I just wish to point out that 'Lady' is the female version of 'Lord'. 'Dame' is the title of a female knight.
User: Sam Ann
:In the manga she's addressed formally as Sir Integral, and informally as "Lady Integra" or "Milady" (by Walter, for example), and Alucard often just calls her Integra. So she is addressed as both Sir and Lady, but not Dame. Schrödinger 21:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dame/Lady note 

message: Why are there several references to 'Integral', including her name in main article?  Where is this l coming from? hobbie 11:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that's her name...read the manga again, including the Japanese volumes if you have access to them. Integral (or インテグラル) is used as well as Integra, perhaps less often. It's her full and proper name. Schrödinger 23:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah ha, I just thought someone was playing a math joke. =D hobbie 12:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integra / Integral 

message: I like reading webcomics too and one day I found this particular one called Vampire Phantasm. http://www.vermillionworks.com/vp/
If you look through it, the comic has some similar parts to Hellsing.
Chapter 1 - Page 10-15 and so forth.
The two main characters are also reminisent of Alucard and Seras.
I dont know if there is a connection or if they're just co-incidental, but there really is a similarity.
Jak722 19:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noticed a similar Webcomic to Hellsing 

message: This article has no story section, it has lots of information, but it doesn't actually say what is happening in the manga. --84.184.106.57 14:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean something like a super-spoiler story summary? If so, why does it need it? A general overview and introduction should be enough. Helios 19:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story? 

message: The in the publication section near the top says:
"Hellsing creator, Kouta Hirano stated in an interview that he will finish Hellsing in about a year and a half to two years..."
I was curious as to when that interview was so I know when the manga is finished. Was the interview a  month ago? a year? A little more specifics there might be helpful. Goodnigt. 71.230.202.3 05:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kouta Hirano line question 

message: I don't think I've seen any release dates yet in this article, or in the talk. I don't know, I lightly scimmed, but if anybody could tell me where I might find information on the release dates planned for the English manga, I'd be really happy.--12.207.142.70 03:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All the release dates are here. But the only one that hasn't been released here is volume 9, and there is currently no release date set for that. Schrödinger 06:37, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!--12.207.142.70 (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Release Dates?

message: I have removed the lines "The creaters of Hellsing is Jaku Herrin, and Danny Diaz. And with help from there hairy friend Austin Perlak.. They created Hellsing." from the "Publication and broadcast history" section. ZaininOmega (talk) 01:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More Vandalism