Talk:Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction

message: I read on gamespot that Sam uses an MP-5, so I added this. It could be false, but I would like to see a ref for the MP-7. J-stan 21:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I have an article that clearly says MP5. It's the one right after that fact. However, An MP7 would, in theory, be more useful. It is more compact, easier to conceal. J-stan Talk 03:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Idea! maybe his standard weapon is the MP7, and in the situation shown in the trailer, he had picked an MP5 off a guard or something. Either way, I think the more ambiguous, the better, since we have a picture that shows an MP7, and a written source that says MP5. It doesn't come out till next year, as well. Who knows what they'll change. J-stan TalkContribs 19:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MP5/MP7

message: Um... Sorry about the last edit. I'm having trouble with Imageshack showing me the logo. Weird. Someone please revert if the edit broke something. Fire 02:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo/Image Problem 

message: Can people be more careful in the future when editing? There is a whole section missing, text in sections that don't make sense, broken links, HTML commands that don't work and italics in random places.
Please press "Show Preview" before changing changes, and be more careful.
And you should sign your comments. Be careful yourself! --Natxohm (talk) 21:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Be more careful! 

message: Could people please stop deleting sections?! Please mark as "citation needed" (because that is the point of that feature), or ask for it to be deleted. It's now the 4th time I've had to retype and section, so I'm not going to bother anymore. It's getting really annoying. --Ras29 09:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleting Sections? 

message: Why does it say this game uses UE3? Are there any press releases that say this? Cheers.
:I'm pretty sure it's speculation... although I seem to remember reading somewhere that it would use Unreal 3... I'm not sure. --Ras29 06:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middleware 

message: In the June issue of Game Informer they had at least a 4 page first look at splinter cell Conviction. I cant remember all the details, this is what do remember. Sam is still on the run from Law Enforcement becuase of the events in Double Agent. Sam has grown a beard and looks like a "white collar" terroritst, with a leather hand-bag, jeans, and what looks like a leather or tweed coat. But the most important detail is that you will no longer be able to, and I qoute "sit in the shadows and watch the enemy until you learn his pattern." It says that the game will now be what they call "active stealth". Mosat of the game will take place during the day or in well lighted areas. They also said that besides the enemy AI having more randomness added to it(ie not patroling in a given pattern), they will be actively looking for Sam. Thats all I can remember, when I get home from work Ill post more details and go better into depth on what I posted above.Gundam94 16:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Informer Article 

message: The gameplay section looks like it was written by an 8 year old. I advise someone to look it over and edit it. I don't know much about this game so I can't do so myself. 65.190.188.145 12:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay Section 

message: This was small bit from the informer article was removed from the main article, maybe it was too much information. I don't know.
<Blockquote>Conviction takes place two years after Double Agent, Sam Fisher has seperated from Third Eschalon and has moved to a remote area of the country, removing himself from rest of society. When he hears that his friend - recurring Splinter Cell character Anna Grimsdottir - is in trouble, he decides to get involved with his old agency and help track her down. But Sam returns to find a very different Third Echelon - a Third Echelon that has become poligical to the point of dysfuntion. The agency is so chained down by red tape its operatives are unable to complete their tasks. Sam Fisher... is not one who likes what he sees with the beauracracy that he has been confronted with. Very quickly it becomes clear to Sam thatif he is going to be of any use, he is going to have to break out on his own, act as an independent agent, and rebel against his own government. He becomes an enemy of the state, fighting for what he believes. He's alone, his resources are limited, and he's on the run, but he's not defenseless. Sam knows Third Echelon. He knows how they work. He knows their strengths and weaknesses. Even though they are actively hunting him some of them are his friends and he might be reluctant to fight them...Sam Fisher is a man of conviction. And it's this conviction - not his renegade status - that gives Splinter Cell its name. He's not a victim. He's not a fugitive. He's not hiding. That's why its called Conviction, because it's really about Sam's conviction that he has to do what he has to do because he feels it is for the greater good. And he's going out on his and doing that, but he's not necessarily happy about doing that.</blockquote>
-Game Informer, June 2007. 
In anycase some details it talks about seem to differ from some of the stuff claimed in the current story section of the article. People can try to clean it up a bit and paraphrase the info if they like.Splintercell007 00:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Story according to Informer

message: During splinter cell: DA, the number 1-877-SF1SHER comes up every now and then. Call it. Should it be mentioned in the article? It does seem to be a bit of a teaser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.221.157 (talk • contribs) 16:10, June 25, 2007 (CDT)
:No. ColdFusion650 22:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wanna expand on that a little? Especially since this reveals a certain locale in the game, and is an official source...68.199.221.157 22:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. ColdFusion650 22:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Be bold and add it. ~~Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 18:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phone number. 

message: I would like to ask User:ColdFusion650 and User:Beem2 to end their revert war. Beem, Coldfusion has a point. If you can find legitimate sources to accompany your work, please do so. We can not include it and abide by policy at the same time. J-stan Talk 22:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not really a war until you violate the three revert rule and throw around some insults. ColdFusion650 22:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone else revert this? He added it back, and I don't want to violate the 3RR. ColdFusion650 22:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll take care of it. J-stan Talk 23:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did it again. I contacted him on his talk page. ColdFusion650 23:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, I have a 3RR report all set up, but I didn't report because he had no warning. This is his last chance. J-stan Talk 23:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert war 

message: On the Wiki page it says that it has been delayed until Q1 2008, but on the official Ubisoft website, it still says November 2007, if you don't believe me, it says it here.
--User:Kai81123 23:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The citation for the release date of Q1 2009 shows "Release Date: October 24, 2008 (UK)" when viewed with a British IP. --Muna (talk) 08:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have a posted release date of 2010, but I'm not so cure the cited website is reliable. Anyone got any thoughts?157.174.221.169 (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date? 

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message: It says in the article that Fisher will be 53 years old in the year 2010.  However, on the back of the box of SC:DA (at least on the collector's edition), the psychological profile states that Fisher is in his late 40's.  Given that DA takes place in 2008 and Conviction takes place in 2010, it is impossible for Fisher to be 53 at the time of Conviction's events.  There is no citing reference that points to Fisher being 53, so I wonder where that comes from.  
As for what might be canon in Conviction, it seems like v1 and v2 could be read together to produce a somewhat solid answer.  Firstly, Enrica dies for certain in v2 and it seems like most people write her off in v1 as well.  That in addition to his wanted status and life in hiding, it seems extremely unlikely that Enrica survives.  Secondly, because Fisher is wanted and in hiding, it is likely that Lambert is either underground as well or dead (or at least presumed dead).  It wouldn't make much sense for Williams to be able to exert such complete control with Lambert in the way.  Also, it would be far less likely that Fisher would be in hiding if Lambert was still with TE since he could explain Fisher's NOC status.  I suppose it's possible that the ineptitude of TE is due to the internal struggle between Lambert and Williams, with Williams getting to better end of the struggle.76.206.238.53 (talk) 07:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His age is probably based on his birthday given in the first game. They retconned it in DA to make him perpetually young(if 40s is considered young). I'm not sure what the rest of what you're saying means. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  lack of citing reference in the article about Fisher's age and a few discussion points about Williams 

message: Shouldn't Conviction be changed to ConViction, so with an upper case V? (Since it's the official spelling of the game, check the official website) Jer0en 1988NL (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It shouldn't be. Ubi UK says otherwise. Cavenbame parlez 17:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: besides, Wikipedia policy is to follow the rules of English as opposed to the rules of some corporation. 24.97.120.131 (talk) 15:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, if the article is about something that corporation made, then it would follow their spelling. Look at Thir13en Ghosts. However in this case I think the V is just red on the site as a design choice, seeing as it's spelled without the V capitalized in multiple other places on the site, and because capitalizing the v wouldn't make any sense.129.59.96.86 (talk) 18:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Con>V<iction

message: There has been much evidence in promotional artwork and videos, officially sanctioned by Ubisoft, showing that the trailer takes place in Washington D.C. Several landmarks are clearly visible, as well as the general terrain/atmosphere. Please do not revert this as speculation - it is fact, and will likely be important in the game.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaijin Ninja (talk • contribs) 17:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's OR, it's OR. There's really no wiggle room. It shows several recognizable landmarks. However, Liberty City, Metropolis, and Gotham feature NYC landmarks. Vice City resembles Miami. Just because it features certain landmarks does not make it DC. It could be a fictional city that borrows elements from it. Oh, another one. The Matrix takes place in a generic big city and features elements from Sydney. Just goes to show you. ColdFusion650 (talk) 18:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Alright, for starters, Splinter Cell, and all other Tom Clancy works, take place in an extremely historically-accurate environment - I cannot think of any game bearing the Tom Clancy seal of approval that creates a city. Furthermore, a post from IGN, posted on the official Splinter Cell website, makes reference to Sam Fisher in Washington D.C. I believe that this is sufficient evidence - from 2 different sources - to justify calling the city Washington D.C. - I have referenced those sources in the article if you would care to evaluate them Gaijin Ninja (talk) 20:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But see you're assuming (that's OR) that since it's Clancy, it must be DC. Prior to thoroughly citing it, it couldn't be on there. With a citation in the article, it's fine. No problems. ColdFusion650 (talk) 20:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Washington D.C.

message: There has been alot of talk going around that Michael Ironside will not return as the voice of Sam Fisher in Conviction or that Conviction will be his last game as Sam Fisher.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/1811036576
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06/10/rumour-ironside-not-to-voice-sam-fisher/1 
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/10/rumor-ironside-no-longer-voicing-splinter-cells-sam-fisher/
http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/06/source-ironsides-ego-and-demands-were-too-much-for-ubisoft.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.17.149 (talk) 17:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Michael Ironside might not voice sam fisher

message: Tell me if I'm wrong but I belive this game has been delayed. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 11:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Game has  been delyaed

message: It's no longer stealth, that much is sure. Maybe call it Action-Stealth (which makes no sense but it's what fucking Ubisoft decided to do).
Ubi always seems to piss of the fans eventually... 80.136.179.74 (talk)
Splinter Cell has been a stealth-action game from day one.--92.20.13.181 (talk) 21:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Could you few people try to understand that a video game retailer's web site is not a good source for a release date. We have a very official document from Ubisoft stating that Conviction will be released in Q1/2010 and you can't change that by referring to any web store's website and telling that it will be released in October or November because a webshop says so. 
Q1/2010 it is.
Finerion (talk) 12:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date is 2010 

message: I think there should be another page created so that the novel that has the same name of this game can exist as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.121.74 (talk) 03:10, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splinter Cell Conviction (Novel) 

message: I followed up on the reference URL, and it seems the 576p is only referring to the demo. Can we take that out until there is a verifiable source about the native resolution of the game proper? 222.152.22.151 (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just changed it, using this as the new source. Eik Corell (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't think that site is talking about the native resolution. It seems it's just saying what resolution the game supports. For example, Halo 3 supports 720p, but its native resolution is only around 600p. Rumours have it that the native resolution of CoD4 is also only at 600p. Native resolution is the resolution the game engine supports. 222.152.21.240 (talk) 04:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native resolution 

message: Its comeing on PS3   Kenneth Walters Kenneth Walters (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  PS3 

message: I do not have a reliable source for this, but it seems Ubisoft stopped provided free weekly DLC (as mentioned in section 4.2). Does anyone have a confirmation of this or a source that claims otherwise? 145.99.195.193 (talk) 10:49, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weekly DLC 

message: I've been adding this (and other Splinter Cell) articles to Categories based on where the game was set. I included the 1990s, since this was partially set during the Gulf War. There is no confirmed date for when the events take place (I think), so I can't fit the rest of the game into a time category. The countries the game was set in (Russia, Malta, etc.), include the co-op multiplayer 
campaign.
Gaijin Ninja (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location Categories 

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