Talk:Slavomolisano dialect

message: The aforementioned move was later done by Kwamikagami in February 2013‎, and went uncontested. Is this the new consensus? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:57, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slavic vs. Croatian 

message: The sole inline reference in the article is Walter Breu's own submission identified by Change request number 2012-068, which is really just a primary source. Fortunately, this submission was ultimately accepted, per http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=svm The sourcing is woefully lacking here. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 16:18, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISO-639 reference 

message: Slavomolisano is not Chakavian - it is Ikavian Neoštokavian belonging to "Western" type. The confusion has apparently been going on for a very long time - from at least 2006. It is discussed as a Štokavian dialect in Josip Lisac's Hrvatska dijalektologija 1. Hrvatski dijalekti i govori štokavskog narječja i hrvatski govori torlačkog narječja ("Croatian dialectology 1. Croatian dialects and speeches of the Shtokavian dialect and Croatian speeches of the Torlakian dialect"). Lisac is the most prominent Croatian dialectologist. The article itself has in the references section a link to Lisac's article in Kolo where he discusses this, concluding with Same bi se moliške hrvatske govore danas moglo tretirati kao dijalekatnu oazu, ali mislim da je opravdanije njihovo uvrštavanje u novoštokavski ikavski dijalekt, "These Slavomolisano dialects could be treated as a dialectal oasis, but it would be more justifiable to include them within the Neoštokavian Ikavian dialet". It shares some old isoglosses with some south Chakavian dialects but it is not Chakavian. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 15:10, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you translating moliške hrvatske govore from Lisac's article into Slavomolisano dialects? There is no mentioning of Slav or dialect?--Rovoobo Talk 00:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  @Rovoobo: That's the English name. Slavomolisano speakers probably don't consider themselves "Croats", since their migration predates the invention of nation-states. That is, unless they've been brainwashed by statist "educational" system ;) --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 07:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chakavian 

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message: Hi, I would like to tell you a very important thing, I have been researching Slavo-Molisan and if it really is an independent language, it is a dialect of Serbo-Croatian. In recent years, Slavomolisano has already been considered an independent language, there is enough evidence to prove this (this according to recent research): 1. Slavomolisano has many archaicisms from Old Serbo-Croatian, many of the words in Slavomolisano are archaic forms of words about 5 centuries ago, probably even older (this means that Slavomolisano and Serbo-Croatian have a common ancestor and we could call this ancestor medieval Serbo-Croatian or Slavomolisan-Serbo-Croatian), and 2. Slavomolino has too much influence from other languages. Many words have been replaced by terms from Romance languages (mainly from the dialecto Neapolitan Abruzzese and Italian), 45% in the case of nouns. and 3. Isolation has meant that Slavomolisan words that come from Old Slavomolisan-Serbo-Croatian are different from their close relative Serbo-Croatian, and the conclusion Slavomolisan is totally different from Serbo-Croatian and is not a dialect but a language. Bolitachan (talk) 20:35, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slavomolisano vs Croatian | And Slavomolisan is an independent language?