Talk:Coronet

message: The coin in the illustration shows a tiara, not a coronet: as I understand the terms, anyway, a coronet should be a circle all the way around the head, which this tiara clearly isn't.  —Tamfang 06:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  tiara != coronet 

message: I noted that ten years ago and it's been ignored. The websites I cited 10 years ago might have shifted around. Today, from the website
https://www.royal.uk/honours-principality-wales
::(which probably isn't worth anything as it's only the Royal Family website of the government of the United Kingdom) says QUOTE: In 1677, Charles II issued a warrant which stated that 'the Son and Heir apparent of the Crown ... shall use and bear his Coronet composed of Crosses and flowers de Liz with one Arch and in the midst a Ball and cross...'. This design specification has been observed ever since.UNQUOTE There is a later reference on that page to the Prince of Wales's Crown, made in 1728. That's not contradictory because it's the well-known title of a specific artwork of jewelry. Something may have the popular name "Crown" and not be a crown, just as the popular name "Black Prince's Ruby" (a famous red gem in the Crown Jewels) has never caused, by mere fact of the name becoming commonplace, the chemical composition of that gemstone to morph from a Spinel to a Ruby. The Black Prince's Ruby isn't a ruby but a spinel, and the Prince of Wales's Crown is not a crown but a coronet. (Likewise the Prince of Wales's Feathers are not a heraldic badge that is conferred when an Heir Apparent is created Prince of Wales. Those feathers are the badge of the Heir Apparent at the moment a Monarch dies, BEFORE such Heir Apparent might be created Prince of Wales.)
::Do I not even deserve an argument here? The coronet worn by the Heir Apparent (including the current Prince of Wales) isn't a crown, because the person wearing it is not what you would call a Sovereign or Monarch. Just putting an arch on a coronet doesn't turn it into a crown. If it's not on the head of a Monarch, it's not a crown. It's a coronet. Please FIX THIS or TELL ME WHY NOT!2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 13:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: A Prince of Wales (and a male Heir Apparent prior to being created Prince of Wales) does NOT have a Crown

message: Does anyone know what the crown for the Garter King of Arms (England, Wales and Northern Ireland) looks like? Apparently the office holder for this most senior title in English Heraldry is entitled to wear a crown (called a crown, not a coronet) at the Coronation. There is also a crown made for the Lord Lyon King of Arms (Scotland). If anyone can add a pictorial diagram of either (or even both) to the others in the article that would be of great interest! Thanks Ds1994 (talk) 21:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If memory serves, the crown of an English KoA has eight oak leaves, standing tall and rather narrow; with the motto MISERERE MIHI DEUS on the circlet. —Tamfang (talk) 08:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crown for the Garter King of Arms (England etc) & Lord Lyon (Scotland) 

message: This article seems dominated by trivia about the etiquette of coronets in the British monarchy.  But no where does it describe exactly what constitutes a "coronet" or how this differs from a "diadiem," a "tiara," or other permutations of crown.TheCormac (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe the first paragraph of the article clearly explains what constitutes a coronet. And coronets are not confined to the British Royal Family: the grades of Duke, Marquess, Earl, Viscount, and Baron (Lords of Parliament in Scotland) are held by Peers outside the Royal family.Ds1994 (talk) 21:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Article dominated by secondary information

message: I think the Link to the YouTube video showing a coronet being worn should be removed, as the video is not available to be watched outside of the U.K. Also, as the video can be altered, removed, and regulated by a YouTube user, it is inappropriate for Wikipedia (as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia). Essentially, if we leave the link in, it will have to be removed eventually.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingQueenPrince (talk • contribs) 18:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to YouTube Video 

message: The article states that in a two-dimensional representation of an Earl's coronet has five leafs showing. If that is correct, this is incorrect. If the picture is correct, the description is incorrect. Which is it? 101090ABC (talk) 10:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct; I have changed the text to agree with the picture. J S Ayer (talk) 03:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earl's Coronet 

message: A depiction is shown in this article of a coronet for a French peer who is a marquis (misspelled "marquess", which is the term used for Britons of that rank) and a different one (no cap of maintenance) for a marquis who is not a peer of France. Even French peerages attached to countships were rare in France outside the royal family, and none were granted from 1500 on, but is there any example at all of a French peerage being attached to a marquisate? The marquisate is, in general, a title granted and borne by nobles in Latin countries and the UK, being non-existent (or rare to the point of non-existence) in Northern and Eastern Europe. So what is the historical source for and evidence of usage of marquisal coronets in such countries? FactStraight (talk) 22:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Marquis Peer 

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message: NB that the 1917 warrant says "the respective wives and widows of the persons entitled under this our royal warrant or under the aforesaid warrant of [K]ing Charles the Second may bear and use the coronet of their respective husbands" - should this be stated in the article?
I suggest adding the following notes: -
1. after "Prince or Princess – son[, wife of a son] or daughter of a sovereign; also brother[, wife of a brother] or sister of the sovereign" - "The living people within this category are Charles, Prince of Wales, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, Anne, Princess Royal, Prince Andrew, Duke of York, Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and Sophie, Countess of Wessex." 
2. after "Prince or Princess – [son, wife of a son or daughter] of the Heir Apparent" - "The living people within this category are Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex."
3. after "Prince or Princess – [son, wife of a son or daughter] of other sons of a Sovereign" - The living people within this category are Princess Beatrice of York, Princess Eugenie, Lady Louise Windsor, James, Viscount Severn, Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, Birgitte, Duchess of Gloucester, Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, Katharine, Duchess of Kent, Prince Michael of Kent and Princess Michael of Kent."
Thoughts? I suggest that it is not original research to state that the people in question are related to the present and past sovereigns in the ways stated.
Alekksandr (talk) 19:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: British coronet rankings