Talk:Swedish Mauser

message: If it was the German Empire as the time-period clearly suggests, the flag should link there as well.
Alternatively, the current flag of Germany should be presented in spite of the historical error that would represent.
BP OMowe (talk) 02:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Place of origin

message: Saw this listed on the project page as needing expansion. I have some nice pictures of a mint M38 short rifle, which so far has been neglected in this article. I will add them. Mr.trooper  —Preceding undated comment added 01:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding article 

message: This entire article is so full of errors it needs a complete rewrite. As well, the name of the factory where these rifles were built is spelled out on the rifle itself: Gustaf not Gustav. Aside from that its a very poorly written and unresearched page. I may make an attempt to do this page but I just don't have the time at present. --DutchSwedishMauser (talk) 14:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps you could give us some examples of the errors you've noticed? That way, other editors with a bit more time might be able to make a start on correcting them. --Commander Zulu (talk) 09:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish Mauser page 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen
This is how the Swedish Mauser deserves to be presented. It should be used as a template for the Swede.DutchSwedishMauser (talk) 09:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  An example of an outstanding presentation..... 

message: Eary Swedish mausers were manufactured by Loewe and DWM.  IIRC Mauser manufactured no early "Mausers",  but merely designed them.  BTW,  I personally own a '94 Swede carbine.  Says "Ludwig Loewe on the receiver,  not "Mauser". Outsidedog (talk) 15:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eary Swedish mausers manufactured by Loewe and DWM.  IIRC Mauser manufactured no early "Mausers",  but merely designed them 

message: The argument over Ludwig Loewe & DWM made Swedish Mausers is bogus. Loewe & DWM did NOT manufacture any Swedish Mausers. Outsidedog-- please send photos to swede1894 (at) gmail.com and I will help straighten this issue out. Yes, I am an expert on the subject.
"high grade tool steel" - BOGUS. Never has there been a Mauser military rifle made with high grade tool steel or any kind of tool steel. All Mauser bolt rifles were manufactured using low carbon steel with additional additives then the receivers were case hardened, not heat treated. 
"Mauser produced 12.000 m/1894 carbines between 1894 and 1896 and Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori 115.000 m/1894 carbines between 1895 and 1933"
This above is incorrect. Mauser Oberndorf carbines were produced ONLY in 1895. Gustaf carbines were produced only between 1898 and 1932, non inclusive. 
(under the m/96 section)
"Mauser produced 40,000 m/1896 long rifles between 1895 and 1899,"
The above is incorrect. Mauser Oberndorf m/96 rifles were produced only in 1899 and 1900. Mauser Oberndorf carbines were produced only in 1895. The number produced is also incorrect.
"Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori 475,000 m/1896 between 1899 and 1936"
The above is incorrect. Gustaf m/96 final production was right about at 512,000 rifles. Production ran 1898 to 1924. Anomalous numbered rifles have shown up but regular military production ceased in 1924.
Please whoever included this incorrect data CORRECT it. I will make attempts at editing the Swedish Mauser page on a regular basis. 
DutchSwedishMauser (talk) 07:53, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added those production figures (from a source listed among references). If you provide references for your production figures and years of production I will be glad to change them, otherwise not. As for m/94 the Swedish Ministry of Defense ordered 12,185 m/94's from Mauser, 5,000 in 1894 and 7,185 in 1895, with deliveries in 1895 and 1896 (Source: Die leichten schwedischen Infanteriegewehre Armee und Heimwehr, Carsten Schinke, Journal-Verlag Schwendt GmbH, 1990). According to the same source production of the m/94 at Carl Gustafs started in 1896. According to Schinke the highest known serial number for m/96's made by Mauser is #59,940, made by Carl Gustafs #517,277 and made by Husqvarna #702,083. But highest serial number doesn't equal production numbers. In Schinke's book (which is in German BTW) you will find a long list of serial numbers that are known to have been used, listed per year, showing that many serial numbers were not used (such as at Carl Gustaf, where the last rifle made in 1910 had serial number 269,312 and the first made in 1911 had serial number 280,693). Allan Akbar (talk) 10:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I can add that the image in the infobox shows a m/1896 that beyond even a shadow of doubt was made in 1896 since it's the m/1896 that was shown to the King of Sweden-Norway when the m/1896 was approved in 1896. A rifle which according to the Swedish Army Museum, where the rifle can be found, was made by Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori. Which proves that Carl Gustafs made m/1896's before 1898 as you claim. Allan Akbar (talk) 23:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

text: I suggest you do the changes yourself since Wikipedia is an open encyclopaedia where anyone can make changes, as long as they have proper references. Besides, you are the one who should be registered as having made the changes to the page since I don't want to assume responsibility for your changes. As for the rest one of the things that I have learnt during my professional/academical life is that the real experts within any given field never personally claim to be experts, but let their published work do the talking. So I suggest you relax a bit if you want to be taken seriously... Allan Akbar (talk) 11:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors and Repetitive Errors & Eroneous Information 

message: In the m/94 carbine section:
"(The preparatory production development at Carl Gustafs stads Gevärsfaktori found a place in history by being the event that caused Carl Edvard Johansson to invent gauge blocks)."
If the wiki page on gauge blocks had actually been read by the person who added the above sentence you would have seen this:
"Johansson was employed in 1888 as an armourer inspector by the state arsenal Carl Gustafs stads Gevärsfaktori [Carl Gustaf Stad's Rifle Factory] in the town of Eskilstuna, Sweden. He was concerned with the expensive tools for measuring parts for the Remington rifles then in production..."
The Remington rifles mentioned were rolling block rifles and had nothing to do with "preparatory production development" of m/94 Mauser carbines. Please remove the erroneous information. 
DutchSwedishMauser (talk) 09:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know who wrote that, it sure wasn't me. But I have removed it (it doesn't really belong in the article anyway...). Allan Akbar (talk) 10:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous m/94 carbine information 

message: I photographed a stripper clip of 1976 Norma 6.5x55 surplus, can somebody add it to the Swedish Mauser Wiki?
Thanks!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6.5x55mm_Swedish_surplus_ammunition,_produced_in_1976.JPG  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielnyc2006 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  6.5x55 ammunition on stripper clip 

message: The "blank firing adapters" shown for the m/1896B and m/1938B rifles are safety devices, not BFAs as the term is normally used.  As manually-operated repeating rifles, the Swedish Mausers do not use the gases produced on firing a blank cartridge to cycle the action of the rifle and load a new cartridge --- the function of BFAs in automatic and semiautomatic firearms --- instead these devices serve to break up the light wooden "bullet" used in the blank cartridge and prevent it causing injury to other soldiers in a training environment.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.108.53 (talk) 19:46, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several different types of blank-firing adaptors, as can be seen in the article about them, so the Swedish blank-firing adaptors for the m/96B and m/38B (with the Swedish designation lösskjutningsanordning, "blank-firing device") do indeed qualify as blank-firing adaptors. Thomas.W (talk) 19:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Blank Firing Adapters" that aren't 

message: There is no such a cartridge as 6.5x55mm.  There are several cartridges of this dimension, but NONE of that name.  A survey of the internet (2 goggle search pages) showed that 88% of references were about the 6.5×55mm Swedish Mauser cartridge with a few using 6.5×55mm Swede, and a similar number 6.5×55mm Swedish.  This should be rectified.Digitallymade (talk) 14:43, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Your addition of the  tag to this article because of a link to 6.5×55mm is just plain silly, you not getting your way in your attempts to move that article to another name does not in any way make the content of this article disputed, the link here simply points to whatever name the article about the cartridge has. And the name of this article, which covers all variants of Swedish Mausers, from the m/94 carbine to the m/41 sniper rifle, is the result of consensus among editors here, so if you want to change it you'll have to start a proper move discussion on the talk page. - Tom | Thomas.W  talk 15:19, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: you should endeavor to be accurate.  There's no such a thing as a 6.5×55mm cartridge.  You've used that reference in several places so putting the tag at the top is easier than noting each one.  I fully expect the page for 6.5×55mm Swedish Mauser will be properly named at some point.  If you wait, and if you've referenced the correct name it will probably automatically change. The request to merge the page resulted because of the improper name which appeared to be a cartridge, not a rifle.  Failing to name pages properly is a common fault with firearms based pages. Inaccuracy causes such problems. Digitallymade (talk) 15:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong. Consensus among other editors here on en-WP is that there indeed is a cartridge that is commonly known as the "6.5x55mm", why is why the article has that name. You may have a different opinion, but unless you can convince other editors here that you're right, and get their support for a move, the name will stay the way it is. And the links will be the way they are. And the same goes for this article, consensus among editors here is that the Swedish Mauser rifles and carbines are commonly known as "Swedish Mauser", which is why this article has that name. See WP:COMMONNAME for what we go by when naming articles, but don't forget that this is an international English language encyclopaedia, not an American encyclopaedia, so pointing to 50 US handloading manuals and US magazines, without also looking at what names are used among international English speakers is not going to get you any support. - Tom | Thomas.W  talk 16:14, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracy 

message: I was a surprised, when I read that the Swedish Mauser was used in the easter rising. Sweden was neutral then and i wonder if there were any Swedish Mauseres available outside Sweden. Only the Luxemburg m/96s might have been available to Germany. But Germany had tried to smuggle captured Mosins into Ireland and failed. I could not find any reliable source about m/96 in Ireland. But I read about the Mauser c/96 „Broomhandle“ automatic pistol used in substantial numbers  by the Irish. They definitely used the Mauser designed Gewehr 71, several other obsolete surplus Rifles and loads of different hunting rifles. But was there any Sewdish mauser? Maybe someone got carried away by the „96“ and „Mauser“ of the Mauser c/96? Enfield8 (talk) 21:26, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish Mauser used in easter rising? 

message: I think „Mausers manufacturers“ does not descibe the company relations between Mauser and Ludwig Loewe /DWM properly.
It reflects the misconception of Mauser as the biggest and most important small arms compamy of the German Empire.
In fact the Mausers found it hard to sell their excellent designs and to finance the expansion of their company necessary to produce huge military orders.
So Ludwig Loewe,who had excellent access to the german and varios foreign military markets and who was financially extremely viable, first became shareholder, then major shareholder of The Mauser company, Making it part of the DWM, which included several arms and ammunition companies in 1895.
So I might suggest to call Ludwig Loewe/DWM the parent company of Mauser..  Enfield8 (talk) 10:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ludwig Loewe/DWM 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Swedish Mauser's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Capie":
From Lee–Enfield: 
From Heckler & Koch G3: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:35, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Swedish Mauser]] 

message: This covers m/96 and m/38 BP OMowe (talk) 00:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A translation from the 1977 Swedish Army Manual (SoldI Mtrl) 

message: I HAVE A 1910 SWEDISH MAUSER. JV 270567.SEARCHING FOR MORE INFO ABOUT THIS RIFLE. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.  THANK YOU. 67.4.70.146 (talk) 00:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  1910 SWEDISH MAUSER