Talk:Aileron

message: I see that somebody has added a page called "Ailerion(s)"... Is that a valid alternate spelling?
I think not, but wanted to check.4.5.120.133 17:25, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly not an alternative! - Adrian Pingstone 18:22, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

message: Alerion redirects here, apparently as a misspelling.  Charge (heraldry) suggests that an alerion is a sort of fantastic bird.  I am wondering if the two usages are related.  - Smerdis of Tlön 16:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Alerion]] 

message: * oppose I oppose merging this article with Flight controls, especially since it's already pretty long by itself. The merge tag was added by an anonymous account, with no explanation placed here on the talk page, so I suggest simply deleting the tag if the original editor does not bother to come here and explain in the next couple of days. David 01:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge tag 

message: I've added a couple of sections introducing spades and weights. It might me nice to add a picture of (say) spades and google images has lots of jpg's. Trouble is I don't know what can be used without copyright problems. can a more experienced ed help please? Thanks MarkC 05:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spades and weights picture needed 

message: "Some early aircraft such as the Fokker Spin lacked any type of roll control. The Spin used an extreme amount of dihedral which made the aircraft so stable that a skidding turn could be made." 
:This kind of aircraft does not lack any type of roll control, but any type of ailerons. The roll is controlled by the rudder.
:"Extreme stability" ? The more dihedral, the more unstable is the aircraft : the slighest assymetry in yaw (controled or not) gives a roll movement. Stability is the aptitude of the aircraft to maintain his trim in spite of external destabilization.
"On a conventional aircraft, turns using just the rudder typically result in adverse roll, rolling to the outside of the turn, a very inefficient and uncomfortable maneuver."
: On a conventional aircraft, turning the rudder gives normally a yaw followed by an induced roll in the right direction. Sometimes using just the ailerons may give some adverse yaw. Plxdesi dec 1012  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.150.181 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Extreme stability

message: "it was never fully controllable in flight, likely due to its unconventional wing form and forward-mounted elevators and rudders."
:This remark does not apply to aileron page. 
:Many "first to fly" aircraft were not fully controllable in flight, including the Flyer 1903. 
:"Unconventional wing form and canard elevator/rudder" do not explain the 14 bis lack of control in flight : there were other potential causes : CG position, inefficient control surfaces, etc... Plxdesi dec 2012  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.150.181 (talk) 11:11, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Santos-dumont 14 bis ailerons, control in flight

message: This is very simply untrue - the aileron is in fact usually "attached" (hinged) from a spar or false spar forward of the trailing edge - its own trailing edge forms part of the trailing edge wing as a whole. There are structural as well as aerodynamic reason for this that we needn't go into here. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 16:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Some Pre-WW1 and WW1 aircraft (such as the Antoinette IV monoplane) in fact did attach the aileron to the trailing edge of the wing, however this was not common practice for the reasons you mention.NiD.29 (talk) 16:56, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Attached to the trailing edge" 

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