Talk:Swimming

message: One of the best known swimmers in the United States definately have to be Kristen. She is the next up and coming 2012 London Olympic Games star currently training in Baltimore at the NBAC. So look out Michael Phelps this girl has got you beat!
Swimfrogs24 (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't know they plan mixed sex competitions in 2012. lets wait and see -- Chris 73 | Talk 07:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Swimmers In United States History 

message: The amount of water a swimmer needs daily is your body weight multiplied by .3 for the minimum number of ounces you require daily. Many coaches will say that taking "gulps" at practice are better than sips. The night before swim practice you should drink 16 oz of water, best before bed. The morning of practice you should drink 16 oz of water as soon as you get up. If the practice is later in the day you would drink 17 oz of water 2 hours before practice. About 15 minutes before your work out you should drink 4-8 oz of water or any type of sports drink. Try to avoid any carbonated beverages. Also avoid caffeine because it is bad for your heart. Drinking fruit juice before practice can loosen stools and cause gas so it is smart to stay away from those types of beverages. During your work out you should be drinking fluids every 15 minutes. After the work out is finished you should drink 24 oz of fluid for every pound that was lost within 2 hours after exercise. The best type of drink to have after practice is a sports drink such as Gatorade. It is not recomended to drink carbonated drinks or alcohol after practice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbond2 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water Intake For a Swimmer  

message: The lead mentioned bathing, cooling, travel, fishing, escape, exercise, and sport as the main reasons to swim.  Escape is ambiguous and points to a disambig page, which doesn't help clarify anything.  I replace it with recreation.  Travel seems absurd; perhaps what was meant was locomotion.  I deleted that, but perhaps someone wants to put in locomotion.
In the recreation section, I expanded the "most" comment to hopefully make it not require a citation as was requested long ago above.  If you have doubts about the new comment, feel free to delete it.
I did delete the dubious content about the best stroke for rough open water, that doesn't particularly belong in here anyway.
The sport section was odd, because it was about exercise not competitive sport, whereas it referred to an article only about competitive swimming as the main article.  So I moved that content to the recreation section, and put the lead from swimming (sport) in as the content of the sport section.  And I retitled both accordingly.  
Finally I moved the content on styles to the section on styles, which had very little content before.
--Ccrrccrr (talk) 00:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of some edits 

message: This article is almost entirely original research, with many POV statements such as "swimming is healthy", and next to no references. As such it makes good promotional brochure text for a swimming club but a poor encyclopedia entry. I have tried to add some tags but was blocked by semiprotection. I am instead going to alert various admins, groups, and projects about this article. DQweny (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've unprotected the page. -- œ™ 03:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Attribution and POV problem

message: I have added 'locomotion' as a primary use of swimming - it seems silly to have the use of swimming as a means of travel from one point to another missing from the list. I'm also thinking of how to word the use 'avoidance of drowning', as this is a traditional reason for learning to swim - normally people learn to float persistently as part of the process of learning to swim, and the alternative of drowning is a major difference between being in water, and on dry land (where it doesn't necessarily matter if one can't walk).
Does anyone have a link or citation for the following?
Due to a British disregard for splashing, Trudgen employed a scissor kick instead of the front crawl's flutter kick.
It's the use of 'disregard' (disdain?) and the supposed reason for Trudgen's scissor kick that I'm wondering about. Some contradictions here between various WKP entries:
 Here it claims that Trudgens use of the flutter kick was a mistake.
 Here it claims that the Native American style of front crawl was the one that was considered excessively 'splashy'.
Centrepull (talk) 13:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drowning, locomotion, Trudgens 

message: Quite an extreme sport, huh? From personal experience I'd say that under normal conditions swimming itself isn't more dangerous than running, it's hard to get injured. Of course, when someone tries to run through jungles and swim in the Amazon nobody could predict the consequences, but one's again it's the matter of conditions and environment.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.163.17 (talk) 08:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Make sure to always wear your water wings when making any plunges into the unfathomable depths of your neighborhood swimming pool. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 05:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Risks section

message: - Water kills. The human being who can't can't get out of the water eventually and certainly dies from in it. Depending on circumstances, death occurs due to drowning asphyxiation, hypothermia, impact trauma (in fast moving flood or river water), and occurs long before any serious risk of dehydration, starvation, exhaustion, and with enormously higher probability than due to predation.
- Swimming is a key survival skill in almost all incidents involving people entering water while alighting a disabled vessel or aircraft or falling accidentally in it from land, especially while in motor vehicles. It is also an essential rescue skill, and as such a prerequisite for several rescue-related professions.
- Travel is done by swimming with perhaps surprising frequency. Consider J.F. Kennedy and his sailors swimming island to island (not to mention his brother's claim of leaving Chappaquiddick by swimming), innumerable migrants swimming across rivers and straits, cases of political refugees swimming in the Baltic Sea, and many instances of people jumping in the water and swimming ashore from vessels not intended to reach land where they planned to go. Swimming travel is even featured in a recent motion picture "Welcome". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1314280/
Spamhog (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  MISSING: Survival in/against Water, Human Swimming, Travel swimming 

message: wading redirects here. why? 98.206.155.53 (talk) 06:17, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  wading redirect 

message: Does anyone know of a natural way to get rid of the chlorine smell from your body after you have been for a swim at the pool?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.170.78.6 (talk) 04:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hard saying; I can’t smell it. ―cobaltcigs 23:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chlorine smell 

message: How do you swim? Simple question, commonly associated with the topic, yet the article doesn't address it at all. No physics of swimming? Why? The article looks like a collection of statements which one might find by typing 'swimming' into a search engine. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 05:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Article 

message: I came to this article seeking information on how many people actually know how to swim, and found none outside of Sweden. ―cobaltcigs 23:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I wanted to know how extended a skill it is. I was surprised to find that adult friends from some countries barely can't swim but can skate. I supposed that the reverse would be more common. Could you dig up some data on swimming skill around the world? I guess that poor inland dry countries would have a low rate while rich coastal countries would have a high rate. --Error (talk) 15:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It will probably be hard to find exhaustive information on general population, but there are some studies on schoolchildren. This one states that in 30 developed countries swimming is taught in compulsory education, that in Sweden and Germany 95% of children under 12 can swim, and that in the Province of Buenos Aires, Argentina, 70% of children who finished primary school got no instruction in swimming and don't have minimal aquatic skills (Análisis estadístico (sobre encuestas poblacionales e investigación de campo) de accidentes en ambientes lacustres de la Provincia de Tucumán by Andrew Wheeler, José David Ruffino and Fernando Erimbau, though they do not quote the original studies these data came from).--Javierme (talk) 18:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prevalence 

message: they both love swimming..  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.143.43.249 (talk) 11:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do Teddy and mexicans have in common? 

message: I read an aticle a couple of years ago that described how "just looking at the water in a swimming pool, lake or river from your window can calm ow, doee anyone know of such an aticle? Thank you for your assitance.  Susan 3-29-2012  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.85.25 (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calming effects on human from a pool of wter 

message: At the end of the Risks section there was the statement: "Around any pool area, safety equipment and supervision by personnel trained in rescue techniques is important. It is required at most competitive swimming meets, and is a zoning requirement for most residential pools in the United States." with the reference www.swimmingpool.com/safety/safety-equipment . 
Some issues with this:
* The reference given does not say anything about zoning requirements or competitive swimming meets.
* It seems to make the unlikely claim that "... supervision by personnel trained in rescue techniques is... a zoning requirement for most residential pools in the United States".
* I think that not all people would agree on the importance of these safety regulations when swimming.
I have tried to fix, but it could do with some more work.
The same reference is used later in the article to support the statement: "Safety fencing and equipment is mandatory at public pools and a zoning requirement at most residential pools in the United States." where again it does not support "mandatory" and "requirement". I have not tried to fix this bit.
FrankSier (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Safety equipment and regulations 

message: Following this move result which established consensus that swimming (sport) needed no further disambiguation, I think it might be worth reopening the human swimming → swimming discussion.
The point that doesn't seem to have been made before (or have I missed it?) is that swimming as an article title is a noun, not a verb. In that context, I think the primary meaning is the human activity, with no more disambiguation required.
But before raising this as a formal RM I thought I'd seek informal comment here. Andrewa (talk) 02:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible new move proposal 

message: All navies and marines require recruits to be able to swim. Why refer to the United States Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard alone?Royalcourtier (talk) 08:18, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  US bias 

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