Talk:Bucket hat

message: An actual photo would be nice, rather than the current drawing. tildetildetildetilde  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.114.231.10 (talk) 08:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  photo 

message: Citation needed. They're commonly called "boonie" caps (try doing a GIS of boonie vs. beanie), but a beanie is a completely different cap. 149.169.197.34 (talk) 21:36, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: beanie?!?

message: I've amended the start and tried to introduce some references. I'll be adding more but there is an awful lot of unsourced material that should come out unless decent references can be found (not sources that borrow from the Wikipedia page as that looks to be happening). I can't find any evidence so far that the hat is Irish in origin and we need a very solid reference for that. Note also I've amended importance to Low on fashion project – this is as per other similar pages...it's a hat. Libby norman (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Still sourcing issues, working to improve

message: Information about the bucket hat being Irish in origin has been reinserted. I can't see any evidence from the reference source used alongside it that this is the case. I don't think we should continue to say it's Irish in origin unless we have a solid reference which says just that. Would welcome comments and discussion here and/or a solid reference on the article. Libby norman (talk) 11:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now removed the reference to the hat being Irish for the time being as the reference used to support it was a New York Times article about a Scottish traditional outfitters and made no mention whatsoever of bucket hats, Irish or otherwise. We need strong and precise evidence before reinserting the claim of Irish origins. Libby norman (talk) 09:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Osama57. I think these are interesting but not convinced they are strong enough sources to make it stand becauuse they are adverts. The first from Syndicate could easily have borrowed material from the Wiki page; the second two (both same source Norm Thompson) doesn't really say where they were invented but says where its versions are manufactured. I think there may have been/or be a bit of glamour in attributing to Ireland – but an advert has less weight than, say, an entry in a book on the history of costume, because in an advert there's an intention to attribute glamour/authenticity to product so purple prose creeps in. Intrigued though as this keeps popping up, so will keep on looking for solid sources. Libby norman (talk) 09:22, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Irish origins question?

message: The Irish hats, fishing hats and other examples bear no resemblance to a bucket hat. Those hats are instead obvious antecedences of the "bush hat" or "giggle hat" which were adopted as part of the uniforms of  various militaries during WW2 and after, notably the Australian army during the Vietnam war.
A truer origin for the very particular style of the bucket hat with its distinctive downward sloping brim are the uniform hats of the US navy. The upward brim could be turned down when needed, turning it into a bucket hat. example: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/ozoneocean/16730307_10206251653608773_6612178912430387908_n_zpsysznis7e.jpg
Famously this style was worn by Bob Denver in his role as Gilligan on Gilligan's island.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozoneocean (talk • contribs) 17:39, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Look up Sou'wester hats.  It is a style well into the 1880's, or before.  Mackintosh was a style of rubberized fabric invented before 1843 and before that they had oilskin or waxed fabric.  It is very likely the Bucket hat is just the modern word for a really old sailor or fisherman hat that we no longer have much information about.  I would trace it back to the Sou'wester, at least, just with a shorter bill.  Here is one from 1883:  https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/nmah_859468 2600:1700:8830:8DF0:BD7B:FDE9:C052:61A5 (talk) 09:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Totally invented and missattributed origin

message: I suggest removing the 'UK name' of 'Reni hat'.  The entire Interwebs throws up a grand total of 56 hits for it, including replications of this article and news about Reni himself.  'Bucket hat' gets 56 million hits. Onanoff (talk) 21:06, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: 58 hits now. Onanoff (talk) 21:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Reni hat' - really?