Talk:Transient lunar phenomenon

message: I wouldn't exactly call the Fortean Times a scientific source. Also, the "NASA report on TLP sightings from 1540 to 1968" link is not hosted by NASA. Is there a page at NASA's official site covering this topic?
*There's no Wikipedia requirement that sources have to be "scientific" or peer-reviewed (that would rule out the BBC, NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, National Geographic, The Times, the New York Times, et cetera); a Google search shows that Grego (author of the FT article) is a notable mainstream astronomer, having written at least two books for general audiences.
*A search of the NASA website has nothing on either TLP, so it looks like the good folks at MUFOR have decided to host the info on their website. (Anonymous, 10 Sep 2006)
::The exhaustive work by Winifred Sawtell Cameron is available from the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center as cited below.  Tcisco 03:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: I've added a lot of material. However, before this topic is acceptable, the missing citations need to be added. Also, I am open to removing the mention of pseudoscience and conspiracy theory if you think this goes too far. Lunokhod 14:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: "with some having been observed independently by multiple witnesses"
Does anybody know what events have been observed by multiple witnesses? Does this refer only to the Cantebury event? or are there others? Lunokhod 19:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple witnesses 

message: Two other theories that might be considered are:
Electrodynamic Effects associated with the cracking of rocks - see:
"A New Mechanism for Lunar Transient Phenomena" by Richard R.Zito,
Icarus, 82, p419-422, (1989). I assume the physics are correct in this
paper, however I do wonder if regolith covering hides effectively
this from being visible on the surface? As to what mechanisms could
cause large slabs of rock to fracture, well there are 1) Moon Quakes,
2) Meteorite impacts, and 3) thermal expansion and contraction. One would
assume that regolith would mostly hide (1) and (3) from visibility.
Eletrostic dust particles - these were probably images from the
surface by one of the surveyor landers, and I think imaged from
orbit as horizon glare (?) from Clementine, but whether this
would be visible to Earth observers I do not think anyone has proven yet.
Mills has also suggested triboletric discharge between dust particles,
nicely summarized in a Nature Vol 285, p438 (1980) review of TLP by 
David Hughes.
T.C. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.243.220.21 (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Theories 

message: Comments should have been made about the reported wide area brightenings.  Several articles have explored correlations between such phenomena and flux surges in solar particles.  For example:
*Kopal, Z. & Rackham, T. W. (1963).  Excitation of lunar luminescence by solar activity.  Icarus 2, 481-500.
*Matsushima, S. (1966, October).  Variation of lunar eclipse brightness and its association with the geomagnetic planetary index Kp.  The Astronomical Journal 71(8), 699-705.
*Scarfe, C. D. (1965).  Observations of lunar luminescence at visual wavelengths.  Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society 130(1), 19-29.
*Sekiguchi, N. (1971).  An anomalous brightening of the lunar surface observed on March 26, 1970.  The Moon 2, 423-434.
*Spinrad, H. (1964).  Lunar luminescence in the near ultraviolet.  Icarus 3, 500-501.
Tcisco 07:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lunar Luminescence 

message: Congratulations on the pass grade. The only recommendation I have is that you provide internal links for words that the layman (or even some experts) may not understand in order to comply with  Wikipedia:What is a good article? 1.(d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided.--Jorfer 00:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Pass

message: In my opinion, portions of this article are showing signs of over wiki-linking. In particular, links seem to have been added to normal words (not jargon) that the average reader would never have reason to click on. It almost appears as if links have been given either because "they exist", or to act as a "dictionary". As examples, consider the following that I propose for removal:
* Phenomenon
* Transient
* frequency
* illumination (lighting)
* Anomaly
* Amplitude
* implanted
* distortion
* abnormality
* one or two of the three: spectrograph, spectra, spectrogram
* second instance of Linné (crater)
I would argue that any reasonable person would know what these words mean, that they are repetitive, or that the information in the link adds no extra information or insight to the topic. Please consult with WP:MOS-L and overlinking for guidance on what should and should not be linked. Lunokhod 14:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over wiki-linking 

message: I have removed these three TLP reports because (1) they are not cited, and (2) they are anecdotal.
*About a year later on September 26th 1788, a German astronomer saw a white beam of light among the peaks of the lunar Alps (near to the crater Plato). In July 1821, Franz Gruithuisen, the creator of the meteoric impact theory of Lunar cratering, saw flashing points of light on the surface of the moon, however when he revealed he had discovered a lunar city he was ridiculed by his colleagues and he burned his notes.
*On the 31st of January 1915, astronomers could clearly make out the Greek letter gamma, an account of which was posted in The Astronomical register in London. Other letters have also been spotted on the moons surface, a glowing “X” has been spotted on numerous occasions, and a strange glowing check pattern has been sighted near the Plato crater.
*One of the more bizarre incidents of TLP occurred in July 1953 when an enormous “bridge-like structure” around 12 miles long could be seen across the sea of crises. A British lunar expert said (in an interview with the BBC) “It looks artificial. It’s very straight and definitely solid, as it casts a shadow.” The bridge is now nowhere to be seen. It vanished as quickly and mysteriously as it appeared.
I recall that there are thousands of TLP reports, and that they can not all be repertoired in this article.
Lunokhod 10:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited reports 

message: Lunokhod, have you examined the references for lunar luminescence?  Astronomers have used the "method of line depths," developed by Frantisek Link, to verify the phenomena.  Zdenek Kopal and Rackham were the first to photograph it and Naosuke Sekiguchi incorporated photometric and polarmetric analyses to measure it with greater precision.  Lunar luminescence is a fifth mechanism that has transpired over much larger areas than phenomena associated with outgassing and electrostatics. Tcisco 13:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lunar luminescences II

message: I've seen these events classified as Lunar Transient Phenomena (LTP) elsewhere, notably in the Discovery Channel's current "The Universe" series (by the narrator and scientists in the "Mysteries of the Moon" episode).  Is Lunar Transient Phenomena the more popular term?  If so, should the title of this article be changed? 68.118.179.201 (talk) 02:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lunar Transient Phenomena (LTP)?

message: As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Planets and Moons" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2007. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. I would recommend going through all of the citations and updating the access dates and fixing any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 08:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: Pass

message: I was reading the old Time article on Apollo 11 and it mentions time spent observing a TLP. "A GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND" as seen here: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901102-7,00.html so I added it.68.102.180.134 (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Apollo 11

message: Hello,
Just to let you know this article has recently been translated to french, and merci à ses auteurs (thanks to those who wrote it).
Hop ! Kikuyu3 (talk) 22:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation to FR 

message: Substituted at 09:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: In other words, if Earth's moon was, say, a hundred times smaller, would there be much more gaseous and dusty clouds around it? Or perhaps a continuously refreshed coma, just like the coma around a comet's nucleus in the proximity of the sun. DannyCaes (talk) 10:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could we see Earth's moon as if it's an extremely large comet nucleus? 

message: There are 2 references to the "dark side" of the moon and 4 references to the "night side" in the events list that should probably be removed and/or replaced with something saying the observation was made at night instead. Mongo404 (talk) 02:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark/Night Side? 

message: Hi, just to add to what has been discussed previously.
I've done some extensive research into radon and other gas leakage, and
there is a small but plausible chance that if argon AND radon leaked out
at the same time under pressure through a small vent or vents, a long 
lived  plasma event may well form.
This would look a lot like a "plasma fountain" and in this case its the
pressure release that causes luminescence by ionizing the dusty plasma a 
bit like volcanic lightning, thus magnifying the event's brightness
by several orders of magnitude.
Unsure on which forum to post this, but calculations planned on my GPU
array may be useful as it has tangential relevance to ball lightning.
The "moving dots" may be something a lot like BL, though the formation
mechanism is solar in origin caused by differential electrical charge
lightning is well known on Jupiter and can be huge compared to Earth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.190.166.126 (talk) 05:58, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lunar radiation anomaly and ball lightning (BL)