Talk:Greensboro, North Carolina

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• Sbmeirow • Talk •  18:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important Tips Before Editing This Article 

message: What is it that needs to be cleaned up on this page? LegCircus 02:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I removed the grasshoppers logo on the page, as it was blocking the content.--Jnelson09 00:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grasshoppers Logo

message: How is the name pronounced? Can someone add an IPA transcription? 86.136.94.95 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What Greensboro?! It's pronounced grEEns-burr-Oh (where capital letters show emphasis on the vowel sound). As for IPA, I have no idea. (I live near Greensboro) --TinMan 04:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that helps. I asked because it seems to me that it could conceivably be pronounced ,  or . Your response rules out the last one (I don't know if that pronunciation is even found at all in the USA, and the 1895 change of spelling in this case makes it even less likely here), but if there's emphasis on the last syllable, it makes me doubt if it could really be a schwa, as in . I won't add anything to the article, because I'm unsure whether it's nearer to , , or something else. It probably seems really obvious to anyone who's heard "Greensboro" spoken, but the pronunciation of "boro"/"borough"/"burgh" as it varies around the English-speaking world is always a tricky one, so if someone who can transcribe it in IPA could offer some input, that would be great. 86.136.94.95 17:17, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand. It seems as though the pronunciation of "Greensboro" didn't change when it changed names from "Greensborough". The last sound is definately an "O" vowel sound, as if you were reciting the alphabet. I'm not a linguist so I'm not pretending to know what those IPA symbols mean. --TinMan 18:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone can provide me a good link where I might learn how to use IPA correctly (maybe I'm just skimming IPA too fast but it seemed unhelpful), I can give it a try. Otherwise, I could just use this chart at http://m-w.com. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You might find International Phonetic Alphabet for English more useful than the main IPA article, as it lists example words so you can see which symbols correspond to which familiar sounds. 86.136.94.95 01:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfect. I have always pronounced it  (greens-bir-oe). Given the traditional southern drawl, however,  (greens-boor-oe) seems more correct. If it helps, I see the emphasis in the word as being only on the first syllable. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 01:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I could agree with  as well (although  sounds natural to me). My accent may prevent me from recognizing the correct answer. In local usage, it seems like the second syllable in the word is all but ignored, but not excluded (so definitely not ). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 01:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: To be honest, I think  is the closest. That's what I hear on the local news and basically everywhere. The next closest would be your " (greens-bir-oe)" --TinMan 02:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I think I used the wrong "u" for the oh sound. It should be the u with two dots over it. I'll fix.--TinMan 21:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Why is Greensboro's nickname "Gate City"?  Is it a gateway to the Carolinas?  Do the houses have many gates?  It's just silly to have a nickname without an explanation behind it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.226.112 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 September 2006  (UTC)
:the rail hub made it a gateway to well, anywhere. Not really that creative, if you ask me. Cptjeff — Preceding undated comment added 23:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've lived in the area most of my life and I still don't know where that nickname came from. I've wondered about it myself. I just figured it had something to do with the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, but that's just a flat out guess. --TinMan 17:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right about the railway thing. I now know. Interesting fact. --TinMan 21:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: 'Gateway to the Piedmont' resulted in Greensboro being dubbed "Gate City."Johnny Camaro  —Preceding undated comment added 00:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

text: It's because of the intersection of I-40 and I-85 I believe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.192.58.118 (talk) 22:48, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Its the gateway to the dirty south offcourse.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.48.124.244 (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Gate City

message: Around the "Education" section of this article we get into a mass of external links, some of which have their own page. Any idea what to do?AMP'd 00:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: With internal links (like this one or OTRS (random example)), red links mean that the page hasn't been created - blue that it has.  With internal links, it's best to leave them in place: WP:LINK tells us that links should be kept where relevant to the context - obviously the links to schools here are much better than writing about each school in the article. Martinp23 21:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup?

message: I think some IP address vandalized this page...unless we didn't need Greensboro's history. If this was legit please revert my edit. AMP'd 20:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep - that was vandalism, and a good revert.  If you want a formal definition of vandalism, see WP:VAND -- Martinp23 21:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism?

message: This page is very long to have no references at all—ideally every WIkipedia article will have references.  I changed the Sister Cities link someone added into a reference, and added a Refs section.  It'd be great if other editors could substantiate some of the great information in the article.  —johndburger 02:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Although I may have simply been brought up in a quaker-biased community, I would think that this article would include more emphasis on the Quaker roots of Greensboro, since the Guilford woods were the beginning of the underground railroad near one of the Quaker meeting houses, and there are many other quaker meetings in the are for an area far from Pennsylvania. --65.188.149.173 04:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More emphasis on Quakerism?

message: I am curious, for those folks living here, are there employment opportunities and if so, are they more for blue collar or white collar?  Seeing as it is a university town I would imagine things are looking good, but I just wonder, please.
24.165.20.220 23:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Piedmont Triad (Winston-Salem, Greensboro, High Point pop. 1.4mm MSA)is still largely a manufacturing hub albeit an evolving one. The area is turning over from textiles, tobacco and furniture to a transportation hub, bio-tech and skilled manufactured products. The 40/85 corridor running from RDU-Greensboro-Charlotte is a rapidly growing area. NC will be the 7th most populous state by 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.16.9.11 (talk) 05:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bridgestone Aircraft Tire is moving to Mayodan nearby, which has both white and blue collar jobs either evailable or becoming available. -Mike Payne 11:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Employment outlook?

message: Hi - I just reverted an edit due to some provocative wording, about neighborhoods having won their fight by routing flights over other neighborhoods). While I agree that the article on Greensboro is out of balance, I suggest to attempt to represent either sides rather than letting onself down to the daily local political rant. Anyway - just a suggestion, I won't be opposing further edits here. Thanks, Jens Koeplinger 02:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree recent edits have inserted a great deal of subjectivity to this entry. Hopefully the author will return to edit their own work. exwhysee — Preceding undated comment added 16:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert from Feb 18th

message: It doesn't mention Lake Jeanette as a neighborhood. Is this not big enough to be considered? I'm moving there and am curious. Speaking of which, is it Lake Jeanette or Lake Janette? -Mike Payne 09:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neighborhoods?

message: I recently reverted a change  that added the text "It (Greensboro) is also the 3rd largest city in North Carolina" because it was repetitive. I'm pretty sure that size refers to population, and the text was added right above a statement that said "Greensboro is the third most populous city in North Carolina". Can we figure out how large Greensboro is in terms of area and compare it to other cities to remove confusion? - AMP'd 20:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: I edited the caption under the picture of Blandwood Mansion specifically because the Mansion is mentioned, but no connection is made between that and the photo of the mansion itself. So I am going to change it back, do not change it. --68.155.245.251 00:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blandwood Mansion Picture

message: I changed Kelly Wigglesworth to Kelly Wiglesworth (both are the same page) because the spelling of the page that the link directs to is the second. There is no reason to correct the spelling to have two G's. - AMP'd 16:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous People - Survivor

message: I removed the section about Greensboro's unique park oriented neighborhoods. Park neighborhoods are not unique to Greensboro (see Myers Park in Charlotte, Cameron Park in Raleigh, Roland Park in Baltimore...etc) nor do all these neighborhoods include the work park in their name (Starmount Forest, Lake Daniel). Most west Greensboro neighborhoods have parks within their bounds, but so do a great number in High Point, Winston-Salem, Durham, etc. It was a popular suburban template for most communities built on rolling terrain in the early twentieth century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.13.201.23 (talk) 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unique Park Neighborhoods

message: Much of the arts section reads like a brochure:
* See non-traditional and original works ...
* Enjoy over 100 summer concerts ...
I can just delete the unencyclopedic bits if no one else gets to this. —johndburger 01:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The last paragraph of the introductory section also has similar problems. "Collecting accolades for its beauty and liveability"? --Xinophiliac (talk) 18:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur on the problem with the last introductory paragraph.  It's written like an advertisement in my opinion.  I came to the discussion page to point that out.--Unmotivate 04:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inappropriate tone

message: There seems to be some dispute over Greensboro's MSA population. On it's wiki page, I've the number change from 689,000 to 1.7million to 704,000 and then back to 689,000 in a span of one week.At the same time, High-Point's metro has remained at 1.7million. I realize that their is an difference between a MSA and a CSA. I'm just wondering why the triad area can just be considered and MSA instead of a CSA. Greensboro, High Point and Winston-Salem pretty much has the same metro area. Is it because the area between the cities are not urbanized enough?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by East89 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Greensboro's Metro Population?

message: Greensboro is the 3rd largest city in north carolina.Home to 223,891 residents.Its the best place to relax.July is the hottest time of the year, when Janurary is the coldest time of the year with the temperture of 43 degrees farenhieght.Greensboro is the 40th most fun state, so why wouldn"t you want to go there.Plus thats 40 out of 262 cities in the United States of America.Just picture that 262 cities in the United States of America when Greensboro is number 40,thats a big differance.So when you go to Greensboro, North Carolina think about this and be thankful that god gave us Greensboro, North Carolina.
                                                By, Sidnie LaMotte, age 9
                                                    Plainfield Illinois  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.148.216 (talk) 23:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A place called Greensboro, North Carolina

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Greensboro, North Carolina's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "PopEstBigCities":
From Raleigh, North Carolina: 
From List of United States cities by population: 
Reference named "PopEstCBSA":
From Raleigh, North Carolina: 
From Morrisville, North Carolina: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Orphaned references in [[:Greensboro, North Carolina]]

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Hi.  I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure.  Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline.  I won't be changing any content, merely the order.  Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues.  I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out.  Thoughts?  Onel5969 (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: While the IPs are reverting, the fact is, that section really isn't needed and is more WP:NOTNEWS than encyclopedia, so I think leaving it deleted is best for the encyclopedia. Dennis - 2¢ 03:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right, I reverted since it is cited material, but I won't again.  Good point. I think it's one of those "on the fence" issues.  Could go either way. Onel5969 (talk) 03:17, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downtown mobs and brawls 

message: I started this list because the list here was ridiculously large and it starts to look like petty bragging.  There is more material under that section that is unsourced and due to get deleted, or just minor.  The article simply has too much fluffy content.  Greensboro is an interesting town with a rich history, we don't need the fluff here.  Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:21, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of people from Greensboro, North Carolina]] 

message: Greensboro 101 (http://www.greensboro101.com) is being removed from the Media section as not being notable. I think the notable requirement applies to stand alone entries, so the bar should be lower for simple inclusion in this section. Nonetheless, Greensboro 101 is notable. It has its roots as a pioneer in the citizen journalism movement and was noticed by The Wall Street Journal, The LA Times, the Annengurg J School, and Jay Rosen among others. It continues to honor its roots by featuring writing and media from bloggers, citizens, independent institutions and organizations alongside content from "traditional" local media. It has been in constant operation since 2005, longer that some of the other media listed in this section. It is on track to have an annualized 1 million human page views, via half a million visits from an estimated 60,000 human individuals (bots and search engines not included.) It is alternative and independent media devoted to giving attention to matters of local importance without prejudice for or allegiance to any single source.
The "not notable" justification came with no explanation. I have offered an explanation for why it is notable. Unfamiliarity should not cloud judgement here. Please restore it and its link. It is appropriate and important.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 (talk) 23:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Please read the guidelines on notability. You can start at WP:GNG. Trivial mentions do not constitute notability. Onel5969 TT me 13:59, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for pointing to those guidelines. I consulted them last night and they are pretty clear when they state: "The notability guidelines do not apply to article or list content." The people removing Greensboro 101 from a LIST within an article because it isn't notable, in their opinion, are making two errors: Operating from ignorance of the site's history and its place in the community and, two, misapplying Wikipedia's written guidelines. I'm going to restore it. If someone removes it again, please provide a reason that can be sustained through a proper application of the guidelines.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct, however, if you continued reading those guidelines it talks about due weight, and mentioning a non-notable entity may give that entity undue weight, in relation to the other entities mentioned in the article. In those cases, consensus on the individual pages should be obtained.  Which is what you've begun to attempt. If enough folks weigh in, using substantive, policy-based decisions to include that website, then it should be included. And vice-versa. Right now, it shouldn't be re-added until, and if, that consensus is reached. Additionally, any information which is added to any article can be challenged if it is not supported by a citation from an independent, reliable source. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 18:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Usually when folks say they don't want to discuss something further, they stop discussing it. That is, unless they are not really interested in a discussion, but simply want their own opinions to be voiced. Regardless, this will be my last communication with you, please see the below discussion. Onel5969 TT me 14:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  My apologies if I've missed something. Where, other than your last comment, has anybody said they don't want to discuss something further? In order to participate in good faith and one must pay attention and not make misrepresentations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 (talk) 15:21, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  And you have my apologies. After our last interaction an ip editor left the message I reference in the below discussion. It came so close on the heals of our interaction, I thought it was you. That's part of the issue when dealing with ip editors, you can never be sure who you're talking to, so you are absolutely correct, in the spirit of AGF, I will take you at your word that you did not leave the message. Onel5969 TT me 15:32, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What constitutes Media? 

message: I've just removed it for reasons explained in my edit summary. Graham87 13:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Local media censorship" section