Talk:Songwriter

message: The wording of this page is too benign and generic. 
zyanne will be performing a song with beyonce ion a music video.There should be a distinction between someone who writes a few lines or a few words for a song, rather than wholly contributing to the song. If someone writes the lyrics and the music to a song, and someone rewords or adds a few lines, that doesn't make a songwriter. If Emeril LaGasse cooks a new meal and I add the salt, that by no means means I am now a chef. I am a songwriter and the title of songwriter is thrown around much too freely. MsEames
:Done. Hyacinth 08:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Songwriters and not

message: This article is too general and doesn't go into specifics enough.
The line:
'A rock song in contrast, would never have its music played by pianos and banjos' is flat-out wrong - listen to 'November Rain' by Guns n' Roses for example - I'm sure there are many other others. I understand the gist of this comment, however it needs elaboration. Rock songs should not be restricted to certain instruments.
:That section "Parameters a songwriter has to keep in mind when writing a new song" was an addition by 202.165.255.18. I removed it. I also removed the "Useful technique for writing music for musical instruments or singers" section by 193.251.135.126. Hyacinth 11:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too general 

message: I propose to write a sister article entitled "Songwriting".  Thoughts?  It looks like at various times, people have tried to add information to this article that are about the act of songwriting, not about songwriters per se.  I could take some of this info, as well as information I am researching about songwriting and make an article.  Aguerriero 19:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good idea. However, I wonder if such an article would belong under Musical composition. I'm a songwriter, and I know a lot of songwriters and songwriting teachers. It's hard to write about the actual process (not just the history of it) without being either POV or boring. Bufflo 09:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article? 

message: Removed intellectual property reference as songs are only covered by copyright law and not trade mark law, patent law or trade secret law.
Also added short explicit info on what you need permission for. Copying and public performing of a work.
:Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! Hyacinth 21:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that. Created an account. Peope 23:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright law

message: I have just removed quite a few of the ELs on this article.  The reasoning is that they are not directly about songwriters, but instead were links to commercial companies that offer services that might be related to songwriting.  I also note that the article on Music publisher also has these links, and if anywhere, I feel that they are more appropriate there. It would be good if we could discuss this here before reverting. Thanks. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 17:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, people keep coming here to post commercial links. Not much to do about it , other than to delete them over and over I guess. Bufflo 02:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links Section 

message: How about a section on popular songwriting form? There is a lot about specific songwriters but not much on songwriting itself. Any thoughts? Warrenmaynard 11:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a good idea, especially since songwriting redirects to songwriter. However, be careful what you define as "popular" without proper citations. -Amatulic 22:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Specific songwriting information?

message: Should dylan be there, i really dont think so he is renound for disliking overdubbing. most of his reocrds have him palying live with a band, they dont have him palying the intrumens himself and then dubbing it in. Unless anyone has info i dont have he should not be in tht list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.38.63 (talk) 11:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dylan overdubbing???

message: Have deleted the following from the list: 
Steve Clark and Phil Collen & Axl Rose and Izzy Stradlin - Entire bands usually credited as songwriters
James Hetfield and Lars Ulrigh, Steve Tyler and Joe Perry, Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons, & Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora - Questionable as to whether or not they're recognised as "songwriting teams"
The Jacksons - Don't make me laugh.
Eddie Galan - Not even a team, who put this in the list???
Janet Jackson - As if SHE's a noted songwriter.
And added:
Greenwich/Barry (WHY weren't they on the list already??!!)
Pomus/Shuman
Mann/Weil
Nathan86 (talk) 06:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole list is a joke 67.162.10.70 (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songwriting Teams 

message: I have a problem with the introduction saying that popular lyricists are somehow not artistic. I respect the fact that many of them aren't, and that the vast majority of listeners of other songs don't understand the lyrics. However, saying that just because a song is popular stops it being artistic is not only irrelevent but also, there are other artistic music other than so-called "art-music". I consider much of Linkin Park to have very subtle and artistic undertones. What I am trying to say is that the introduction is poor, and art music is a pretty poor article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HandGrenadePins (talk • contribs) 12:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: What's with the first person paragraph in here? Not good. I'll maybe rewrite this entire article when I have some time (and if nobody else has done it by then). Deggle (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 12:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Person 

message: There is an RfC ongoing about a topic that contributors to this article may be interested in. It can be found here. JimKaatFan (talk) 15:04, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment 

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Writing 3225G 2021

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thread_title:  English 

message: The article says a songwriter is a professional composer. Does that mean amateur composers are not songwriters, and if not, what are they called? Lambtron talk 14:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professional composers only?