Talk:Quarterback

message: I dont think brett favreZuesChill (talk) 19:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brett Favre 

message: Dumb question from a non-American: the quarterback is the most important (and usually best-paid) player on the team, aren't they? --Robert Merkel 03:59 Oct 3, 2002 (UTC)
:Yes, usually.  -- Zoe
offensive line is the most important position as no form of offense can be executed without it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.153.255 (talk) 23:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't make stuff up.  Although one could argue endlessly about relative "importance", and you make an excellent point about the importance of the offensive tackle who protects the quarterback's blind side (not "blind sight"), the fact is that the highest paid players are quarterbacks.  As important as the left tackle may be, he does not get the respect or pay he deserves.  The quarterbacks are also, without question, the most important players in the popular imagination -- the most glamorous.  In truth, of course, inferiority at any of several positions could be disastrous -- in that sense, many positions are equally important although not equally glamorous. Paul (talk) 06:49, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance? 

message: I'd like to know where the term quarterback came from. For that matter, what is the reason for the name of most of the positions. --Allen 03:51, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
Well I'm not an expert on these things, and this is just from my observations, but I always thought of it this way:
* the fullback is "all the way" back from the line of scrimmage.
* the halfback (i.e. running back) is roughly halfway from the fullback to the line.
* the quarterback is halfway from the halfback to the line...i.e. a quarter of the way back. Kirjtc2 22:49, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's how it originated. However, in modern formations, the fullback is usually positioned closer to the line than the halfback. --SodiumBenzoate 05:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why was "origin of term" removed? That's actually why I came to the quarterback entry of Wikipedia just now, to find out the origin of the word quarterback. I found the answer in Google cache, that's how I know it was removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.161.178.75 (talk) 05:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Please get a citation for the name before you change it. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   22:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be true of every contribution to this article. As of my reinstatement of the mention of the term (see below), this article has a whopping two citations and a year-and-a-half-old tag stating that it needs citations. B.Wind (talk) 13:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name 

message: this article wreaks of POV issues and relevancy to its topic. Afew examples, in which I could ramble on for ages about regarding how and why are listed below.
*Regardless of these mediocre passing numbers, his rushing threat makes him the one of the most dynamic players in football, and an elite quarterback.
*In recent years, with the rising importance of offensive coordinators and their reliance on scripted game plans and the use of headsets, the quarterback now usually receives which play to call from the coach on the sidelines. One of the few quarterbacks in the NFL who routinely call their own plays is Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts. In the 2004-2005 season he surpassed Dan Marino's record 48 touchdowns in a season with his 49. He also owns the record for the highest passer rating (121.1), a rating system based on a combination of touchdowns thrown, yards thrown, pass completion percentage, and interceptions thrown. (should just reference Passer rating
*In the modern game, quarterbacks are typically evaluated on their passing statistics, including total yardage, completion ratio, touchdowns, and the ability to avoid interceptions. Up through the 1990s, most (is this a history of players, or a article explaining the QB position?) of the prominent NFL quarterbacks were "drop back passers", who typically took between five and seven steps behind the line of scrimmage immediately after snapping the ball to look for an open passing receiver down field. (please don't just add afew mobile quarterbacks in that era to it, this article has enough irrelevant mentions of popular players already) Mithotyn 09:38, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've attended to some of the things you mentioned, and removed the attention template (generally, more specific cleanup templates are preffered).  I think you are talking about two different issues--the random discussions of famous quarterbacks, which I've toned down, and the lack of a referenced history.  The latter is definitely a problem, anyone who edits this page is strongly urged to cite your sources.  The former is not--examples are examples, and can be easily edited so as to be NPOV.  Chick Bowen 21:51, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article in need of attention template

message: I'd like to see a list of all the active QB's in the NFL. Can anyone do that. Just for informational purposes only. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.88.253.128 (talk) 
* Sure. The NFL can do that for you. It's at www.nfl.com/players/playerindex/POS_QB. --Dystopos 17:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of current QB's 

message: why is it that from the highschool level on up that the QB isn't suposed to be hit in practice?
In a game the other team isn't not going to hit them just because they are a QB
The QB should be prepared for anything shouldn't he?
please help out a confused rugby player who doesn't get the finer mechanics of foot ball
:The quarterback leads the offense on the field. The coach doesn't want the QBs to get hurt in situations that he can control; ie. practice. It's meant to reduce the risk of injury to the QB so that he can be in tip-top shape during a game. Tim 22:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I don't know that it is universally true that quarterbacks are always practicing under no-contact rules.  I think it depends on the practice and the coach. Johntex\talk 02:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not universal, but nearly.  You don't want to hit the quarterback because he is often the most important player on the team.  Many coaches go as far as to say the backup quarterback is the second most important player on the team.  Moreover, whereas other players are ready to be hit, when a quarterback stands back in the pocket, he can very easily be blindsighted.49giantsharks (talk) 19:51, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  not hitting quarter backs 

message: Are there historical quarterbacks who were exceptionally good at receiving passes? Xunflash 03:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Receptions

message: Something needs to be done with this section to clean it into a more directed account of the QB position's role in the game.  Right now it reads like an apology letter to the fans for why someone's QB didn't win them the game.  ju66l3r 22:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, the whole thing is extremely relative. I strongly agree with you and complement you for actually doing away with the whole "Notable QB" section. I suggest getting rid of the "Great QB" section, as similar sections for other football positions have been deleted. The sources are subjective too, as many of the top ranking Sports Analysts and Commentators are biased. --ShadowJester07 00:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can anyone tell me what the point of the Truths and Misconceptions part of the article is. It appears to be bizarrely subjective. Cardigan3000 10:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I added a an WP:OR tag to the section. I tried using Google to find some sources to justify the section's claim, but none came up. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   21:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV/Sources for Truth section of article 

message: The fact that this article has a Navy (which is known for it's running game) quarterback as a primary picture is a shame for the quartebacks in general. Could anyone come up with a more deserving image? teevee
:There's no other Fair-Use Image which depicts a quarterback actually setting up to throw. The Two main images of quarterbacks are used to show a quarterback's role, not to illustrate the NFLs/CFL's flavor of the week --ShadowJester07 00:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that is not entirely true.  Have you looked at the commons?  For instance, there is this one and this one.  I think the Navy one is higher quality though. We could rotate them if anyone cares to bother.  We definitely need more pictures of quarterbacks though.  If any one has any good ones (must be legally willing/able to upload them under a free license) please add them to the commons. Johntex\talk 02:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A better picture?

message: Does anyone have a reliable source for the "has its origin in Scottish Rugby" account of the QB terminology?  I'll grant you it would be a fairly logical name for the scrum-half, who is evidently less far "back" than the fly-half, and less convoluted than the half/five-eighths scheme for distinguishing between the two (plus the three-quarters x4+full-back).  Alai 04:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source on origin of name 

message: The article makes is seem that the idea of a quarterback running the ball is a new innovation. In reality, it's as old as the game itself.--RLent 22:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dual threat

message: What  QB's role before modern passing be (i.e before Rockne).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.244.191 (talk) 23:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Historie

message: Prior to the 1930s there was no such thing as quarterbacks - they were often listed as blocking backs, as shown in contemporaneous newspaper articles. David S. Neft, Richard M. Cohen, and Rick Korch, The Football Encyclopedia: The Complete History of Professional Football, From 1892 to the Present (St. Martin’s Press 1994),  I have restored this to the lede. B.Wind (talk) 12:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blocking back 

message: Once someone finds the references, there should also be a section of quarterback styles, such as option quarterback, gunslinger (American football), system quarterback (this undefined term seems to have gained traction in the past 20 years or so - see WP:Requested articles), and so forth. B.Wind (talk) 13:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on quarterback styles 

message: Article sez
:Every play starts with a "snap", an action where the offense's center gives the ball to the quarterback, or as a trick play to another offensive player such as a wide receiver.
Clearly not all plays where the ball is snapped to someone other than the QB are "trick plays".  Punts, FG tries when the QB is not the holder, are obvious examples, but I get the impression from the wildcat formation article that a snap to the halfback for a team running the wildcat is somewhat expected and hardly a "trick".  Someone who has more detailed knowledge of these points should reword. --Trovatore (talk) 02:06, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, a punt is not a trick play. A punt is not even really a play. A punt is just that: a punt. A faked punt, OTOH, would be a trick play. That is where the punting team goes out and gets in form formation like they are going to punt, but instead the ball is snapped to the quarterback and an attempt to convert on 4th down is made. If unsuccessful, then possession is turned over on downs to the other side. Firejuggler86 (talk) 19:42, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is a punt a trick play? 

message: I noticed that there is nothing about the quarterback receiving the ball from the center or being responsible for passing the ball forward or handing off the ball to a runner.  Someone not familiar with football already will still have no idea what the quarterback does after reading this article.  Perhaps some basics should be added in.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.102.144 (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role 

message: The lead at the moment says the QB was "initially called blocking back." I haven't found any evidence that this is true. In fact, it's quite clear from the record that the term quarterback dates to 1880. The citation on the "blocking back" in the lead now points to an encyclopedia of football, without any more specific reference. Anyone have anything on the quarterback actually being called "blocking back" at first? Obviously that's the primary role the quarterback played in early offenses, but from what I can see he was called the quarterback, not the blocking back. --Batard0 (talk) 06:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blocking back? 

message: The quarter back is not 'colloquially known as the signal caller.' The quarterback IS the signal caller! The one that calls signals. This is nothing more than a description of their role, not some colloquial title for their position. Firejuggler86 (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  'colloquially knowncas the signal caller'