Talk:Colonial history of the United States

message: This article is one big naming quandary.  As you may know, until recently it was called "Colonial history of the United States."  Then someone changed the name, because back then there was no such thing as the United States.  But the new name is no more appropriate, because today's United States is only a small part of America.  Neither can we merge it into British colonization of the Americas, because the British had other colonies in Canada and the Caribbean.  Help, anyone? -Smack 00:31, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Why was it moved from "Colonial history of the United States"? Currently, it seems to focus on the British colonies... is it to be about the colonial era of the land that is now the USA, or the colonial era of the Americas generally? Either way, the Spanish had settlements in Florida (including St. Augustine, which is older than Jamestown and still inhabited) and the southwestern US, and the French controlled Louisiana. If we really want a thorough history of the colonies that once were what is now the USA, Russia controlled Alaska. What's the focus of this article? Kwertii 19:00, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: It was moved because there was no entity called the 'United States' during the time which this article describes.  (I am not the one who moved it, btw.)  I am, however, the one who wrote most of the text that is now in the article (see my profile for information as to why it's unfinished), and I did intend to cover to some extent the history of non-British colonies that were later annexed (Florida, New Netherland, Louisiana, etc.)  -Smack 22:04, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  Certainly the United States of America was not formed until later, but the previous title of "Colonial history of the United States" was certainly a better reflection of the article contents than the title "Colonial America". -- Infrogmation 17:06, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: I think I have come up with a solution to the naming dilemma.  We should call this article "Pre-National History of the United States."  Does anyone have any objections?  -Smack 06:04, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  That name is horrendous.  RickK 06:06, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

text: That's awkward, but it's certainly much better than the article's current title. -- Infrogmation 17:06, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colonial history of the United States / Colonial history of America 

message: This article is very misleading. For one thing Columbus never visited North America, and it's even possible he was unaware of its existence. He spent much of his eight years in the area bouncing between the Caribbean and South America, apparently looking for Japan (Cipangu).
Amerigo Vespucci, likewise, never set foot in North America. That honor goes to Giovanni  Caboto (John Cabot), the discoverer of Newfoundland, and possibly Nova Scotia (at least he's the first we know about). sugarfish 00:12, 17 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said that Columbus discovered North America.  The opening paragraph reads, as it did when I wrote it, "the lands of the Western Hemisphere."  It also explains that North America was a "backwater of colonialism." -Smack 05:54, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: "North America" misleading

message: I hate American History....It seems so depressing....unlike Russian history where the bolsheviks killed a bunch of people....wait thats depressing as well....oh well...we cant have it all
In speaking about religious toleration versus religious "domination", author appears to be presenting his or her own opinion. Possible Bias. Any comments? Lukilus
:It's perfectly accurate. Pilgrims came to New England seeking to establish a society in which they could enforce their religious convictions. They weren't seeking a place where others were free to practice their own convictions. That concept would come later.  It's not a disputed point of history. - Nunh-huh 03:06, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Religious Bias

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thread_title:  Colonial Pennsylvania