Talk:John Adams (miniseries)

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thread_title:  Historical Innacuracies 

message: Couldn't the writing be cleaned up a bit here...this is all in one paragraph.
"The event is dramatized and shown as.... It portrays.... The show portrays John Adams.... Adams is depicted to have... Adams is shown...."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.249.20.92 (talk) 11:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  We get it, it's a TV show 

message: Do we really need detailed plot summaries for each episode?  I can understand including a brief wiki-linked list of the events covered during each episode, but anyone who wishes to know the details of what occured in during these events can find them better explained in other articles. Blueboar (talk) 13:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Try the article on John Adams, which deals well with these events. Blueboar (talk) 02:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

text: The deleted summaries were actually taken from the HBO webpage for the miniseries.  They were, word for word, the episode summaries for the episodes.  Drunken Savior (talk) 04:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Plot Summaries? 

message: Yes, I know this is based on History and we all know "who wins" and all, but maybe there should still be a spoiler alert ahead of the episode summaries? Cowicide (talk) 19:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No... for several reasons: First, Wikipedia seriously frowns on "spoiler alerts", even for works of fiction.  If someone doesn't want to have their enjoyment of a book, film or TV show, they don't have to read the summary.  Second, the current "summary" does not really give the "plot" away... it simply lists the historical events covered by each episode. Third, as you say... this miniseries dramatizes historical events.  It is rediculous to put a "spoiler alert" on something like this... the "plot" is covered in every grade school American History text book.  We might as well put a "spoiler alert" on the main John Adams article?  After all, that article essentially gives away the entire plot of the miniseries.   Blueboar (talk) 19:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, no matter how well-versed in History you may be, you may still not want to know what's going to happen in a specific episode before seeing it because there IS this thing called "editing" at work here in this series.  Anyway, a simple link would have been sufficient. Smarmy attitude aside, I see your point that Wikipedia now doesn't allow spoiler alerts.  So, being moot and all, I'll just ignore the rest of your insulting, redundant, long-winded rant on the matter. Cowicide (talk) 00:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

text: And even though the "the 'plot' is covered in every grade school American History text book." There is a possibility that someone from an other country, other than USA, might read the article.88.114.193.103 (talk) 04:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler Warning 

message: Does anyone know why some of the infobox elements such as cinematographer, editor and distributor not appearing in the actual infobox?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timberlax (talk • contribs) 02:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a look at it but I can't figure it out. I'm going to bring it to the help desk.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 11:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox elements missing 

message: Historians have said that John and Abigail were already related to each other before they married each other that they were 3rd cousins to each other is this true????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.106.105 (talk) 23:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the page for discussing the content of the article about the TV series.  Perhaps this belongs on the articles about the real people themselves.  There was no mention of this in the tv series.  --rogerd (talk) 00:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference is that this aspect of their relationship was not mentioned in the miniseries, so it's not relevant here.  There were many facts about the Adamses that were not included in the miniseries, and there is no sense in cluttering up this article with them.  Ketone16 (talk) 14:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  John & Abigal related to each other before they married 

message: I put in a little sentince on how Rutledge was messed up :)
Salveevery1 (talk) 03:23, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed this sentence because it doesn't make sense. Ketone16 (talk) 01:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I can perhaps fix it if you explain your intent better.  You originally wrote that Rutledge's personality and views on independence were "very messed up."  You just now edited that to say that he was pro-independence and his "personality" was mistaken for his brother.  What do you mean by that?  That Rutledge was pro-independence but the miniseries incorrectly portrayed him as being anti-independence?  That the miniseries incorectly portrayed him as exhibiting a personality that is more commonly associated with his brother?  I have no idea of what you're trying to say.  I don't think "messed up" is the phrase you want to use here. Ketone16 (talk) 03:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Thank You! yes,thats what I meant Rutledge was pro-independence and they incorrectly portrayed his personality. How does that sound? :)
Salveevery1 (talk) 16:03, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

text: It sounds better, although Wikipedia has a prohibition on "Original Research" -- I think you made need to provide an example from the miniseries of how Edward Rutledge was portrayed as being anti-independence, and use a reliable source to show how the portrayed incident didn't happen or at least was unlikely to happen.  Ketone16 (talk) 23:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

text: OK, now you should cite a source that indicates that he didn't hold such a position.  Actually, I just looked at the Wikipedia article on Edward Rutledge, and it has the following sentence:  "Although a firm supporter of colonial rights, he was initially reluctant to support independence from Great Britain, hoping instead for reconciliation with the mother country."  That may be in line with the miniseries' portrayal of him. Ketone16 (talk) 23:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rutledge 

message: The second movement of the Piano Trio No. 2 (Schubert) is featured very prominently in the miniseries.  This really deserves a mention in the soundtrack section.  Also, Handel's Sarabande makes an appearance in the George III scene.  Those were the two big numbers in Barry Lyndon.  Did any reviewers note the musical link? DavidRF (talk) 05:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Barry Lyndon]] influence on the soundtrack 

message: someone keeps deleting my edits :(  (I used to have a username but I don't use it anymore it was salveevery1)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.90.230.226 (talk) 23:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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