Talk:Star Fox Command/Archive 1

message: I added a comment about time limits to features, go get the latest nintendo power magazine if you want to see the screen shots i used for Info.
Both screenshots show a time box with a number, one is on the map screen with 100 on the timer, the other is during a mission with Rob64 telling you that-
time is running out. Of course I could be wrong, it could just be multiplayer in those pics. 207.118.191.107 22:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since when is the use of a timer a feature of a game? Thunderbrand 22:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm... Good point. 207.118.191.107 22:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope there's not time limits, that's the only reason I wouldn't get the game. But The Star Fox Command Website shows movies with timers... DarkLink Metroid 23:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are time limits.  Bubble bursted!  --Luigifan 23:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time limits 

message: Im wondering if anyone would've minded me removing the 1st half of the Famitsu magazine section in this article, the 1st half just said basically the same things so I dont think anyone would--208.190.252.176 15:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of which, would a scan of the article be a tall order? Xubelox 00:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A full scan would be too much, since you are now copying large amounts of copyrighted info. -- VederJuda 01:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could I remove this? 

message: I guess they haven't confirmed the name of the female rabbit character yet, but I guess there was a screen that said sky bunny, and im not sure if thats her name or the name of her aircraft (I think its the name of her aircraft), but could this character be Fay from the cancelled Starfox 2?--64.123.119.42 10:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fay wasn't a rabbit, she was a dog. -- VederJuda 12:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it Lucy Hare, or is that tentative? DarkLink Metroid 23:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we know the name of the female rabbit character? 

message: Isn't there a better classification for this game? --Gaming King 07:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The game is a free-roaming shooter, not on-rails. Thunderbrand 22:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's a flying shooter, but what's the name for that? --Gaming King 23:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I dunno. Nintendo's website lists it as "Action", but that is a rather vague term. In the Shoot em up article, 3D shooter seems to best describe Command. Thunderbrand 00:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's both an on-rails and free-roaming shooter, actually. FreakyMutantMan 19:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably better the genre matches the official source. So, should we change it to Action to match Nintendo's website? --Gaming King 07:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Might as well go with what Nintendo has. Thunderbrand 16:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a free-range 3D shooter, or something... DarkLink Metroid 23:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shooter? 

message: As anyone with some Kana-reading skills can tell you, Fox's fighter is given on the offcial Japanese site as the "Arwing II". However, someone keeps switching it to "Firefox", a name with no offcial source. If anyone sees the name of the fighter changed to "Firefox" in this article, be sure to change it back to "Arwing II".--Tenka Muteki 23:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arwing II 

message: It was said to be untranslated, but it's clearly "zapper".  If anyone has any problems with this translation, let me know. Xubelox 03:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Panther's laser system

message: I'm updating the confirmed characters based on this official source. --Gaming King 22:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like you're a little late....Xubelox 00:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, but I'm earlier than everyone else at least. XD --Gaming King 22:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bill - http://boards.ign.com/star_fox/b6338/123453994/p1/ 71.251.15.6 22:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone could translate  then could we put the characters and stats in the article, among the characters and stats that have already been translated?--208.190.253.240 14:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmed Characters 

message: Is it confirmed that there is a leaked ROM of Star Fox Command, or is this just a rumor? I wanted to know because someone had edited the article confirming characters in the game, because some people who claimed to have a leaked ROM claimed that they were in the game--208.190.252.182 16:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaked ROM 

message: Well, obviously we've let this article get really outdated. If I can dig up some proper info, I'll be sure to edit it in. But one thing bothers me in particular: voice acting. The Japanese Star Fox Command commercial seems to have voice acting, but I suppose it could be the narrator of the commercial. Anyway, I think the source isn't convincing enough. Who knows? There could be multiple settings that may include voice acting. A couple of videos on the English SFC site do make it seem likely that there isn't actual voice acting, but it's not conclusive proof. I think we may want to ammend the note on voice acting.
On an oppinion note, I think a lack of real voice acting would be a step back for the series, because since the Star Fox 64 series reboot, every Star Fox game has had actual voice acting, and DS is obviously more than capable of it, as shown by games like Tony Hawk's American Sk8land. --Gaming King 23:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I have the multiplayer details, but I'm not sure where to put them, so I'll leave that up to someone else. Also, check out this video. It shows all of the characters except for Peppy. However, I don't know the names of their ships, so I can't effectively update that either. --Gaming King 07:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How about under features we put "multiplayer" and put the information there?--70.130.33.55 07:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice acting and other matters... 

message: Several endings for the game's story were posted and then removed. I beleive that these endings should stay up in the story section. The reason is because they are part of Star Fox Command's evolving and branching storyline. A note that should be added is that there has not been a single ending that has been rendered absolute canon. Like many games that feature multiple endings, one will be considered canon over time by the game's creators, perhaps at the advent of the next Star Fox game. 
A spoiler tag already surrounds the section in question; readers have the option of viewing this information or not. I present several more images to support claims of these endings (56k Warning):
I am looking for other editors opinions, and any facts that can be provided to help restore and update this section.
--207.179.136.20 05:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endings 

message: Hard to tell from the quality of the youtube source, but that's more likely to be "sukuramujetto" from what I can see. That would be a transliteration of "scramjet" into Japanese. 82.25.202.78 03:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, if her lasers say ka-bu and not ka-pu, it's fairly likely to be "curve". 82.25.202.78 17:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sukuramujuto (translation needed)" 

message: It seems fairly up-to-date now. Shall we remove the tag? Also, is that really Katt? I mean, she looks nothing like her... --Gaming King 21:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, her name translates to Katt Monroe.  Her theme music also matches Katt's from Star Fox 64. --207.179.136.20 22:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was afraid of that. :( --Gaming King 05:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer outdated? 

message: Are all those characters playable in single player mode?  Or are some of them exclusive to multiplayer mode?  The video doesn't make it very clear.
:Characters listed are for single player use only. The only craft that can be flown, and it is mentioned in the aircraft entry and the Multiplayer entry, is the Arwing II in multiplayer. --207.179.136.20 05:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Single Player mode?

message: Well, it seems that the vast majority of Star Fox articles are leaving out crucial info from this game, including some character details on the List of Characters, for example. I think we should stick "needs updating" tags where apropriate. Also, the spelling and grammar on this article could may need a check. "Sky Crow"? --Gaming King 23:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's most likely because the game hasn't been released outside of Japan yet, and I imagine people want to know the full storyline and not just the endings. Once August 28th rolls around, there will be a flurry of activity. Thunderbrand 01:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know where Sky Crow comes from, but the translation phonetically comes to 'Sky Claw'. Of cource, Sky Crow could be interpreted as well I suppose. I'm changing it back until a source says otherwise. This could be an issue along the same regards as FireFox and Arwing II.  --207.179.136.20 04:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, looks like the name issue is settled. Now, how about that outdatedness? --Gaming King 05:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that it would be a good idea to put notices up. I'm mainly concentrating on completing this article though at the moment, but I'm sure that someone will take care of the others once the notice goes up. --207.179.136.20 15:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most other Star Fox articles outdated... 

message: Someone has posted in the non-playable characters section that Andross makes an appearance. I'm removing this until sufficient proof can be provided.207.179.136.20 01:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andross 

message: Hooray! This fresh IGN screenshot confirms the name as Arwing II! --Gaming King 00:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good find. Now the debate is over. --207.179.136.20 02:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arwing II is the final English name! 

message: Is there any official statement on when exactly this game takes place? The article keeps jumping back and forth between "one year" and "a few years". PlatformerMastah 02:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno. I don't think the game actually specifies. I will look for a source somewhere to clear it up. Thunderbrand 02:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I think it said somewhere in the game that it was 2 years after Assault. I could be mistaken though. --207.179.136.19 15:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the fact that Slippy is already engaged, and how much older Peppy looks, shouldn't it be more than that? Can anyone just find some solid confirmation? --Gaming King 01:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The best I can get for now is confirmation that Slippy and Amanda met two years ago. That info comes from her profile in the character gallery. --207.179.136.19 16:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: An IP user added the Update template to the top of the page, but gave no rationale as to why it is there. As I can see nothing sticking out as "no longer being up to date," I removed the template. If someone sees something that would necessitate the template, feel free to add it back, but add your reasons here. Thanks. -Platypus Man | Talk 21:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the mission list was obviously more-or-less a fan translation of the Japanese game (which were pretty close). I've been picking at it and I've finally got the English versions in there. I didn't put that update template there, though. - Super Doogles 23:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update? 

message: Do you think it's right to have the two ending pictures? I've been thinking, and what if someone who hasn't played the game were to look at them accidentally? I know there's a spoiler warning and all, but it's hard to ignore two pictures like that.
But this article could use a few pictures anyway. PlatformerMastah 01:20, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably one is enough. Thunderbrand 02:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending pictures 

message: A good interview that can be used to create a development section, which the article lacks. http://ds.ign.com/articles/731/731088p1.html-- ReyBrujo 03:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interview with developer team 

message: Someone posted some informative negatives about the game, but none of them are sourced. I've added some  tags to be filled in. --Thaddius 14:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm eventually going to fix up this page and source the reviews in a similar manner to the other SF game pages. Thunderbrand 17:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: Someone deleted the trivia piece about Peppy's classic line. I think we should put it back in. --Gaming King 17:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Primarily a question for Steel359: Why did you delete the entire section on the single player characters, ships and attributes?  That information is relevant to the article. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's not a game guide. And it was an eyesore. -- Steel 20:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then perhaps we should remove all notes and comments about the game?  In fact, why don't we remove all the relevant details about all games on Wikipedia, like the list of fruits in Pac-Man?  Going a step further, we could just condense all video games into a list like the Star Fox characters list, with one or two paragraphs describing each one. :P  ... my point is that if you're going to enforce a "no-game-guides" rule on Wikipedia, you should do so for all game articles. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not something we can do fast. Soon or later an editor will reach those articles and remove the information that does not fit Wikipedia. Also, you can't compare Pacman with Star Fox (and I have my original SNES cartridge winking at me from above the bookshelf, so don't think I don't like it). -- ReyBrujo 16:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

text: For the record, "But that article has game guide info in it!" isn't a valid reason to keep game guide in this article. -- Steel 16:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it should be kept out of the page. Thunderbrand 16:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Much like the Mario Kart DS article, this is stuffed full of game guide and the only reason I haven't removed it all is because there would be nothing left afterwards except the lead paragraphs (slight exaggeration, but you get my point). -- Steel 17:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, this page isn't in the best of shape, although I (or other SF contributors) hope to get to it and make it look like the other SF game articles. Thunderbrand 17:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added some  templates around. The article should be rewritten in prose (lists are awful and discouraged). You can add character information in prose ("Star Fox Command has four chaacters available, Fox, Crystal, etc", in excample), about controls in prose ("Controls are handled almost exclusively through the stylus and different combinations of strokes, like a fast long stroke to a side for a roll. Firing is handled with the button", in example) and so on. -- ReyBrujo 17:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did my first non-wikimedia wiki edit and added it to http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Star_fox_command . All set to clean house! Judgesurreal777 05:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Heh, looks pretty good! Thanks. Thunderbrand 14:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the list of single-player characters and ships removed? 

message: Is anyone here 100% sure the series is called Star Fox, as opposed to StarFox. The official site for Command doesn't split the title into two words , but sites like GameSpot  do. So yeah, which one should we be using? -- Steel 21:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's always been Star Fox to me. A lot of gaming sites mess the names up, like how IGN has QUAKE 4 . Thunderbrand 22:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Command page on Nintendo's website has Star Fox split into two words.  Robert 23:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. It'd be nice if they were consistent. -- Steel 23:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: Please stop the vandalism! The information that was removed is not part of Wikipedia's function, and it can by found at the strategy wiki, so stop or we'll have to get someone to semi-protect the article. Judgesurreal777 20:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism