Talk:The Prestige (film)/Archive 2

message: An anonymous person added more detail to the Colorado section of Plot. I removed most of it today. Earlier versions of Plot were longer, to the point of earning complaints, and some of us donated much time to shortening the section. We left out the part about the multiple hats, along with other things; the main point is what Tesla's machine does, not exactly how it was tested or how Angier discovers its action. Including all this would make Plot too long again.
As for uncertainty about which copy is teleported and which one stays on the platform, we know the answer. Please see an earlier discussion on this page, which established that the original stays where it is and the clone appears a distance away. Anyway, the Plot section needs to confine itself to reporting what the film shows, without commentary on what the audience does or doesn't know as the story unfolds. Cognita 23:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two weeks later, the length of the Plot section has crept up again as people have added more bits. Some of these additions weren't written in grammatical English. Some duplicated material already present elsewhere on the page. None of them provided essential information. Again I have tried to restore Plot to its former accuracy, brevity, and coherence. Please, people! If you don't have professional writing skills, stop altering Plot. Cognita 02:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for undoing changes to Plot 

message: This article has been nominated for Good Article (GA) status. Understandably, this has generated new interest and editing activity from both veteran contributors to The Prestige article and new-comers. Contributions are welcome, but please consider that one of the GA criteria is stability. In other words, numerous edits can be viewed negatively by a GA reviewer. Of course, if there is a significant issue that is a problem, it should be addressed, but there have been a number of recent edits that focus on adding more detail to sections (especially Plot). Many editors have worked hard since October to make this section informative and accurate, but concise as well. Consequently, there shouldn't be too many issues in need of resolution in this area at this time. Too much detail is not a good thing, and a balance between readability and information quantity is important.
If there is a significant problem that requires fixing, especially relative to criteria used to evaluate GA candidates, then by all means make the change. If, however, it is something that can wait for a few days, then please wait. This will ensure that a GA reviewer evaluates an article that is not changing from minute-to-minute.
—  Jim Dunning  talk  :  19:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination and stability 

message: I passed the article as I believe it adequately meets all the criteria.
:GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
#It is stable.
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#It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
#:a (tagged and captioned):  b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
#Overall: 
#:a Pass/Fail: 
-- Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: I've had a conversation with User:Wiki-newbie about whether or not to delay an explaination of the machine's functionality until the end of the plot summary. In the plot of the movie, the audience learns what the machine does during the Colorado Springs section, about 2/3's of the way through the movie. During the last third, when Angier performs the his big trick, the audience already knows what the machine does. To delay this revelation until the end of the plot summary effectively rewrites the structure of the movie, and I see no reason for it. Does anyone have any thoughts on this issue? -Captain Crawdad 21:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your opinion about placement of that information. Earlier versions of Plot described the effect of the machine in the Colorado section. People keep messing with Plot. Looking at it just now, I see other places where it has deteriorated since the version that merited a Good Article award. Its grammar has slipped, too. Cognita 22:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: diff —Viriditas | Talk 11:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The functionality of Tesla's machine