Talk:Male prostitution

message: I have moved the following material (added  07:57, 15 August 2008 by User:203.23.223.66) on pirate mythology from the main page to here.  This material doesn't fit with the rest of the article and is lacking key information on the book mentioned (novel? author?).
:Historical context of a Rent Boy in Pirate Mythology
:In Watt's book "Swoosh" (1908), while planning a raid, a single member of a band of pirates uses emotive language, revealing himself to be of higher intelligence than the Cap'n. The angry Cap'n questions his manliness with a monologue with insults and illogic, known as The Cap'n's Rent Boy:
::"Do we have a sashaying pirate on board, a fanciful folly of a fiend? Do ye keelhaul scurvy dogs or do ye serenade them from the crow’s nest? Do ye shake ye cutlass and howl at the moon or do ye shake ye head and faint oh so sweetly at the sight of unkempt hairy men?" [2]
If male prostitution is a part of the pirate tradition, then editors could add that in the historical section.  If this is a prostitute character in a novel, he could be added to the "prostitution in the arts" subpage. Thanks - NYArtsnWords (talk) 16:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move of material from main page - Pirate Mythology 

message: A couple of bold claims (e.g. a male prostitute may be of any sexual orientation regardless of his client's gender and Same-sex male prostitution has been found in all advanced cultures) rely on only one source, Encyclopedia of Homosexuality.
Additionally, the article seems to heavily focus on male-male prostitution. That wouldn't be an issue if someone could come up with a source stating that it is significantly more common than male-female prostitution. JCDenton2052 (talk) 11:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues 

message: To me Male prostitution is a clearer title. "Prostitution of males" indicates the article is about those who prostitute out men aka a pimp for male hustlers. That doesn't seem to be what this article is about and although the data is unlikely to be complete I'd say there are a significant amount of self-employed male prostitutes. Any thoughts? Banjeboi 10:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose move to Male prostitution 

message: I like to know if they ever do, or design to serve female clients,  in comparison to male clients. Thanks. - Jana  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.188.89.126 (talk) 00:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the type of discussion that should really be taken to user talk or the reference desk.  Exploding Boy (talk)
I'm sorry. I'm a Wikipedia noob. I did think about sending a personal message, but didn't know how to contact someone about an unsigned comment. :) Ashkara sands (talk) 08:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Do [[hustler]]s ever serve female clients?

message: As I said earlier in my comments: "There is a definite distinction between an escort and a prostitute. In the majority of localities, the first is illegal and the second is not."
The redirect from "Male Escort" to this article does not take into account that distinction and implies that all male escorts are to be considered prostitutes.  
I'm in the process of creating an article more appropriate for "Male Escort" differentiating the two, and broadening the focus to include both Male-Male and  Male-Female escorting. 
Perhaps I've put the cart before the horse.  Would you prefer that I create the new article before revising the old?
BlueFlameSeattle (talk) 21:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok Sathish babu p (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

text: The article you're proposing, at least for "escort" purposes, sounds like Gigolo.  Perhaps "male escort" should link over there, where there is a "see also" back to this one. HalJor (talk) 22:22, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Male Escort vs Male Prostitute 

message: In the "Male brothels" section, it is stated that the last prosecution in the UK for running a "disorderly house" was in 1990. However, the reference cited (this Independent article) is from 1994, so tells us nothing about what may or may not have happened in the 16 years since. A much more recent reference is really needed. Loganberry (Talk) 16:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out-of-date reference? 

message: The history section is very lacking, since it jumps from Greece and Rome to US-centric references to prostitution in early modern America.  There is good evidence of male prostitution in Europe from the mediaeval period and a flourishing gay subculture in the 18th century, as well as evidence of prostitution throughout Asia, China and Japan in particular. Gymnophoria (talk) 13:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History needs expansion and globalising 

message: I've been in a fair amount of Adult Bookstores in my life to buy porn, not to have sex and I have never seen male prostitutes in any of them.  If people want to have sex in an Adult bookstore they'll have it and they are not going to pay for it.  This section should be deleted.
I agree you are NOT going to find male prostitutes or hustlers in adult bookstores.  You will find bisexual and gay men having sex with each other and gay, bi, and hetero men and sometimes women buying porn and sex toys. The section should be deleted.108.16.0.94 (talk) 07:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adult Bookstores? 

message: Can someone explain how man can have sex voluntarily with another man and "not consider himself gay"? And is this the same as denying that it is a "homosexual act" to have sex with the same gender?
Note: I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand English usage here. --Uncle Ed (talk) 01:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Does Men who have sex with men help? HalJor (talk) 02:52, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I've begun reading that. --Uncle Ed (talk) 19:50, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: MSM isn't gay?

message: I think the help and support section needs to be re-examined and editred from a NPV perspective. Also, is the large amount  of text devoted to a single organization in RI appropriate here? Maybe Project Weber should have its own article. Input? Dave  (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 17:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help and Support Section 

message: The introduction to this article is primarily focuesed on clarifying the related slang. Isn't there a more beneficial way to introduce a topic?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.85.13.164 (talk) 23:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The terms in bold ("male escorts, gigolos, rent-boys, hustlers, models or masseurs" are all redirects to this page. If we don't include them near the top of the article, it may be unclear to someone searching for the term why they ended up at this article. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defining slang as intro? 

message: The section on what feminist theorists think or theorize about male prostitution is pointless and should be deleted.108.16.0.94 (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete feminist theory section 

message: Turkish Bath
This photo is a Turkish bath, it is not a Gay bathhouse.--115.162.51.99 (talk) 07:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkish Bath ≠ Gay bathhouse

message: It's extremely easy to get sex with men at any time, so why would anyone pay for sex with a man? The article should explain why thousands of people pay for something which is extremely easy to get; no-one has difficulty finding men to have sex with for free. 213.205.251.203 (talk) 22:08, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty of people who have such difficulty -- they may be unattractive, socially awkward, or have specific needs (particular acts or utmost discretion, for example) that they are unable to satisfy through other means.  Every client has their own motivation.  That much is no different than with seeking female prostitution.  It's not unreasonable for the article to explain this with valid sources, but your premise is faulty.  HalJor (talk) 02:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Most Wikipedia articles on prostitution seem to take the demand for prostitution as read, effectively treating it as WP:BLUE. Where they do get into the question of "why?", they tend to concentrate on the question of why there is a supply. Is there any particular reason for taking a different approach here?  Polly Tunnel (talk) 13:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The premise of the question is derogatory to the point of trolling, and devoting research time and article space to a question with such an obvious answer is unnecessary. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a serious and relevant question. If the answer is obvious, state it. Women are far more choosy than men. Many women demand to be wined and dined and make men spend a huge amount of time, money and effort to get sex with them. The man is nearly always obliged to approach, chat up, pursue, buy gifts for, and chase the woman. The man has to prove to the woman that he's worthy of sex, demonstrating his socioeconomic status and ability to dance, tell jokes/anecdotes and seduce. Women usually want confident, 'established' men who have a great deal of sexual experience/expertise. Many men don't have those qualities and hence are routinely rejected/friend zoned by women. Most men want sex on the first date, but most women keep men waiting. Therefore it's easy to see why there are many female prostitutes. In contrast, it is extremely easy for anyone to quickly get sex with men for free. Any woman can get sex with men with extreme ease - even a woman such as Aileen Wuornos, who was extremely unappealing in every aspect and had no positive qualities, easily got a lot of sex with many men. Any homosexual man can easily and quickly get sex with men for free in gay bars, on gay websites etc. A gay man doesn't need to be good-looking, have good social skills etc. to be successful at cruising for sex - whether on the Internet, in parks, bars etc. - he can merely wait to be approached. There aren't any gay men who have difficulty getting sex with men. There are no 40 year old homosexual male virgins who've asked hundreds of men for sex but have been rejected every time. There are no brothels anywhere in the world for female customers, so why are there homosexual brothels? 213.205.251.203 (talk) 23:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You're making a lot of assertions that (as has already been explained) are simply not true, and no reliable sources will back them up. (Hint: MRA and PUA blogs do not count.) If your goal is to use this as a soapbox for some fringe views about gender in society, that's not what Wikipedia is for. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 03:17, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You're repeatedly assuming bad faith. I'm not a troll, or anything to do with activism or pick-up artistry. What parts of what I've said are you saying are untrue? What I'm saying is fact that is easily and readily observable - not fringe in any way. It's fact that it's extremely easy to get sex with men - they don't need to be wined & dined, be given expensive presents or taken on several dates before they'll be willing to have sex with someone. Anyone can get sex with a man for free within minutes with minimal effort. No-one faces a long hard struggle to find a man who's willing to have sex with him/her. All incels are heterosexual males. My point is that this article should state why thousands of men (and a tiny number of women) pay for sex with men when it's extremely easy to get sex with men for free. 92.40.78.35 (talk) 00:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your beliefs are not supported by reliable sources. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 02:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is there a demand? 

message: A Wikipedia search for Gigolo takes the user to a page dedicated to that topic, while Gigalo redirects to this page.  As far as I can determine, both spellings are acceptable.  
Suggestion: either dedicate a page to both spellings, or redirect both spellings to this page (and include a definition of the term).
Jimmy Hers (talk) 01:52, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no point in having a separate article with so little information. I'd recommend merging Gigolo into this article and redirect. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gigolo": Inconsistent Wikipedia Redirect 

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message: Hello, 
Can anyone help me edit the bibliography? I am trying to add and format my sources correctly but it isn't working out. I recently added some information and would appreciate the help.
Totallytubularthesaurus (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with the bibliography 

message: The material recently added by User:Ksantos803 has a number of problems. One is that, while most of the material is generally relevant to this article, much of it isn't relevant to the section it's in: It's about how male prostitution has been perceived, not how it has been regulated. Another is the use of terms such as "fairies" and "pansies". These are (at best) slang, and shouldn't be used as if they were objective technical terms. I've already removed a section that was just a lecture about the early history of AIDS, which is a whole other topic. Jason A. Quest (talk) 01:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition by Ksantos803 

message: — Assignment last updated by Cjcarney (talk) 19:39, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Students of this course who are editing this are ready to post their contribution to the article. Sex tourism is the subsection that we decided to edit.  MNC-2016 (talk) 19:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Black Sexual Politics Writing Intensive

message: The section concerning popular culture involves no disclaimer nor acknowledges that its perspective and content is exclusively limited to Hollywood references. Arcsoda (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hollywood-centric