Talk:List of designated terrorist groups

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message: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/07/irans-parliament-designates-pentagon-official-terrorist-organization
I'm just saying that since the Quds force, the Russian government and the Iranian revolutionary guard are mentioned in the article, it should also be included under that logic (besides, this article does not make exceptions with organizations declared by Iran). 186.32.216.28 (talk) 09:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irans-news-parliment-approves-bill-designating-u-s-military-terrorist-organizations-qassem-soleimani/ By the way they also did the same with the US Army. 186.32.216.28 (talk) 10:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NPOV does mean that the above should be included, unless the designation has been repealed by later bills. Sjö (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

text: And I see now that it is already included. Sjö (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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message: In the context of the recent removal of the flags of countries under MOS:DECOR, I wish to ask what editors think about removing the emblems/flags of terror groups as well? --Minoa (talk) 10:00, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, this request is still active and the opinion of other editors on my proposal to remove emblems/flags of terror groups, under MOS:DECOR. I cannot proceed with this proposal without consensus, as the article mentions terror groups associated with a few contentious topics, such as the Israel/Palestine conflict and the war in Ukraine. --Minoa (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the flags do serve a useful purpose here, both as a navigational aid and to improve understanding. The flags often give an inkling of the allegiance and alliances of the organization, for instance it is easy to find the organizations that use the flag of IS. Other flags designs like that of the Three Percenters or the Promised Day Brigade give information about the location or alignment of the organization; information that is not apparent from its name. Sjö (talk) 07:11, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: How can we achieve the same effect without flags? I am asking this because a significant number of entries, such as those for Hamas and the Wagner Group, are unable to have flags due to WP:NFCC rules. --Minoa (talk) 17:08, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[MOS:DECOR]] and terror group emblems/flags 

message: Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades are just the military forces of Hamas, there is no reason to divide from it's military branch. Same with Islamic State, and it's military force, there is no reason to divide it from it's military force. Most, if not all, that regonize the second as terrorist also regocnize the first one. דוב (talk) 22:12, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Some countries, e.g. the UK, made a distinction between the political and military wings of Hamas . This seems to have changed and it seems that most countries do not make that distinction anymore. It makes sense to have separate items if there is just one country that designats only the al-Qassam Brigades but not Hamas as a terrorist organization. But that does not seem to be the case as of now. Sjö (talk) 05:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

text: From a UK Home Office policy paper Proscribed terrorist groups or organisations, updated 15 September 2023: "Hamas IDQ was proscribed by the UK in March 2001. At the time it was HM government’s assessment that there was a sufficient distinction between the so called political and military wings of Hamas, such that they should be treated as different organisations, and that only the military wing was concerned in terrorism. The government now assess that the approach of distinguishing between the various parts of Hamas is artificial. Hamas is a complex but single terrorist organisation." Mcljlm (talk) 18:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

text: As mentioned above, some countries make this distinction. This is fairly common and also happens with other organizations in the list when there are political and armed branches that may have a different legal treatment. MarioGom (talk) 12:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Which countries still distinguish between them? Mcljlm (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. I've started verifying and updating the latest listings. Comprehensive updates to this article are rare, so several listings are usually outdated. MarioGom (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Only Japan remains to be verified. Someone would need to find the latest listing, which is a bit tricky since they regularly publish it in PDF format, and translate as needed. Latest PDF listed in the article is from 2021, and I would be surprised if there isn't more recent update. MarioGom (talk) 10:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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