Talk:Electrician

message: I think this page could use more information. I'm planning a write up about the different types of electricians. I'm sure that globally we in the trade are aware of the wide spectrum of skills that comprise elctrical work. I primarily specialize in Machine tools and industrial wiring in factories namely 480V distribution. On the other hand I've never worked on a house or dwelling. While I could, and it would'nt burn down, I would be slow and inefficient in my install. Just an example of the specialization in the field that most people not in the trade are unaware of.
68.188.151.191 12:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put this first enty in a category at the top.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: First entry

message: Should we have a list of "Types of Electricians"?
:How many "types" of Electrician can you think of?
* well in the USA theres aprentice, 2year resedential wiremen, 4year journyman, 6year master. and then the high T guys. Brian in denver (talk) 02:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Commonly they are divided into: 
*Electrician I - knows commons things about electricity, does simple works like: 
**screws the terminals, 
**puts the cables, etc. (does all simple works) 
*** requires basic school education + electrician's vocational school;
*Electrician II - installs, setups, checks electrical appliences, checks wiring and consumer units; finds out and repairs faults; chooses tools and wiring methods by himself; 
*** requires basic school education + electrician's vocational school + work experience (in my country this experience could be change to some practic works of examination);
*Electrician III - supervises the work, traines the young electrician trainees, calculates materials, calculates terms and volumes of work 
** requires electrician's college; 
*Electrician IV - is responsible for company's personal, follows safety, warns younger (by occupation) electricians against risks and other dangers, follows electric codes and standarts. 
** requires academic degree + passed exam of competence; 
*Electrician V - designes electric circuits and substatons, acceptes exams, teaches and traines young (by occupation) electricians, certificates drawings and works with documents about work or electric units acception, checks conformity of electric units to eletrical code 
** requires master's academic degree (or higher) + passed exam of competence + suitable work experience 
In fact those are enforced everywhere cause the law is written by politians (who knows nothing in electricity), so you can watch distribution boards installed by Electrician I or other pornography. Also Electrician I is absolutely useless qualification, cause they are trained to do DIYers work and as the practice shows DIYers do their work more carefully and properly than Electrician I (in my opinion such low qualification is some americanism and authorities shoud cancel it). 
The same enforcement with designing - go to the google, find table with cable gauges on load and design (somethings like "plug and play") or install the software which will design for you with calculations. But only disadvantage you'll have problems with accepting your drawing if you need to get some documents due to registration missing. But some Design-It-Youself'ers solve this problem by having friends with electrical registration.
As for America, there electrician levels are named to craftman, journeyman and master electrician. And they have more perverted requirements to work experience. But all the world keeps 5 levels written above. 90.191.190.76 (talk) 18:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added links to other types in the 'see also' section. But marine electrician, instrument technician, telecommunictions, etc may fit there as well. I also created Canada in the apprenticeship article. There are some ideas on how sub-divisions could be arranged here. I won't be editing this article anymore. I am here to create articles and fill gaps, not play childish editing games.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of Electricians 

message: What are some of the tools that electrical contractors use to retain people? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.69.11.85 (talk • contribs).
:the usual: Salary, benefits, and job security: as an electrcian (or other building tradesperson), at least your job can't be outsourced to India. Atlant 14:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess us electricians have better job security than other careers, the skill shortage down under here has made wages better for the few of us that are left.
I think there should be some sort of dis-ambiguation between the terms "Electrician" and "Electrical Contractor" as the term Electrical Contractor often refers to the business run by the Electrician, not the electrician themselves, am I just splitting hairs?.Trumpy 13:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retention in the trade? 

message: Folks,
I think that the list of electricians tools should be a bit bigger than it currently is.
I would tend to diasgree with the idea that PVC insulation tape is a tool either, it is an Electrical material, like cable ties or trunking.
C'mon, us electricians use some pretty specialised gear, none of which I've ever seen on the pages of Wikipedia before.
What do you people think? Trumpy 13:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tools of the trade? 

message: There are other trade organisations around the world that represent electricians, and not necessarily from a union point of view either, off the top of my head, there is ECANZ (Electrical Contractors Assoc Of New Zealand), ECCA (Australia), IEEE (UK), there may be more.Trumpy 13:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade Organisations 

message: I put the page on the list for protection from the  IP vandals that are adding  links to company sites. I feel the article subject rarely needs update, therefore there is no reason for anonymous access.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Application was denied. Vandalism was not frequent enough. I accept the decision and will try to monitor the article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 03:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is on my watchlist as well, plus the usual bots and new edit patrollers are watching, so most vandalism will be caught pretty quickly. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Applied for protection 

message: In tools section, I am challenging the claim on how tools are supplied to electricians as far as what tools are personally supplied vs employer supplied. It maybe the culture of trade in certain regions or country but I suspect it is not a world wide practice.  Per WP:ONUS, restoring editor is the one on hook for verifying. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 03:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Challenging the source of tools

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message: I replaced the photo :File:TVA Linemen.jpg which is named "linemen" and the file states "linemen, not electricians" with US Navy Electrician's Mate (long file name, piped) of an electrician rewinding an induction motor. One of the few on :Commons:category:electricians that show something more than a guy working in a box or just staring at a box. Jim1138 (talk) 10:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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message: Please change “tradesman” and all the like terms to be inclusive. “Tradesperson” “journeyperson” “lineperson” etc. 74.70.16.22 (talk) 14:35, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope I got them all, however some links might be changed to "worker" instead of "person," but this is a good start. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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