Template talk:IMDb title

message: Please change line_hide to link_hide in the unknown parameter search per parameter name, change made in sandbox. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 11:26, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 16:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Indagate (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: my pleasure! Paine  07:35, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unknown parameter search 

message: What makes this warning/error stop? . The case in question has nothing to do with episodes or TV, and is a stand-alone movie.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Which article are you referring to? Assume it has a Wikidata ID that's listed in the template meaning it's being recongised as something like a TV episode, that would need to be changed to reflect what it is. Indagate (talk) 11:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Please give the exact page as an example. Gonnym (talk) 11:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Glossary of cue sports terms  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not an appropriate use of this template. It should be used as an external link, not as a reference. Indagate (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What Indagate said. Not only should IMDb  be used as a source per WP:RS, this template's only valid use is as an external link template. So while the preview error did not give the correct error message, not a lot we can do when editors completely misuse a template. That said, it did at least inform you something was wrong. Gonnym (talk) 21:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

text: I think the template needs to handle some more cases where the qid param is used.  I've made some changes in the sandbox for this. I'll wait a little while in case anyone has any comments on it and if not I'll apply them soon. -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you explain what your changes do? Gonnym (talk) 19:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: In the current version of the template, the first occurence of  passes over the qid param. The second occurence does not, so is displaying a warning in preview and adding a tracking category due to checking the wrong wikidata page. The two uses of the  template were also checking information from wikidata but were using the current page rather than the page passed as the qid param.  I'm thinking it should be checking that other page when deciding whether to add any tracking categories. -- WOSlinker (talk) 21:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It should always check the current page and not the QID used. Placing this template on an unrelated page but passing it a qid of that page bypasses the exact reason this check is in place. Gonnym (talk) 06:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't seem much point in having the qid parameter as an option in this template then. -- WOSlinker (talk) 10:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: List of character articles are currently a valid use with this template and a qid. The template just needs to be modified to bypass the ID validations for these articles. Gonnym (talk) 10:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annoying "warning" 

message: Can the wikilink in the template be changed from IMDb (identifier) to its proper target at IMDb?  — Paper Luigi T • C 08:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks was link was changed  by  so pinging them. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 08:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  The redirect is used to avoid cluttering Special:WhatLinksHere/IMDb. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 17:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I see where you're coming from, but what I don't understand is how de-cluttering a special IMDb redirect page a grounds for the inclusion of a disambiguated redirect target in the template? Is there a precedent that you're trying to follow?  — Paper Luigi T • C 07:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've thought it over, and, yes, I can see how the special namespace page with inclusion of every article with an IMDb title entry using this template would clutter it quite tremendously. That would be a very, very large increase in links pointed that way. I would just like to be familiar with a policy or guideline that supports this reasoning.  — Paper Luigi T • C 05:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  IMDb (identifier) to IMDb 

message: The template ought to be changed so it doesn't emit :Category:Pages using IMDb title with no id set where a parameter  has been used. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give an example of a page this is an issue on? According to the code, if you use  or if the wikidata page has P345 (which is what the qid returns), then the page does not appear in the category. This can be an issue if the template is not used on the same page the qid links to, which typically happens when this template is incorrectly used as a reference. Gonnym (talk) 11:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: La traviata, where its film versions are referenced with . I'm aware that IMDb cannot be used to cite particulars for films, but I understand that it can be used to assert the existence of a film. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDb is user generated so it's value is almost nothing as a source. If you can't find any other source to a film existence, then I don't think it should be even added it to an article. Additionaly, that isn't how IMDb is used in that article.  are all information that needs to be actually cited. Gonnym (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

text: This template should only ever be used in the External links section of an article, never as part of a reference. Indagate (talk) 12:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to take care of La traviata when I get a chance. In the meantime, I came across Don Carlos where a bunch of IMDb links appear in "External links", but the article is still categorized as 'Pages using IMDb title with no id set'. What am I missing? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: With tracking categories you can either go the conservative method or accept false positives. Catching all incorrect usages of this template as a citation requires accepting some false positives are added. Once the category is actually cleared, this can be modified. Regarding Don Carlos, I wonder if per WP:ELBODY adding a laundry list of adaptations to the EL is correct. That sounds like it should belong to the body of an article under "adaptations" with references. Or, if its deemed WP:TRIVIA, removed. Gonnym (talk) 16:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So the template code does emit preview warnings and that tracking category even if  is present? E.g. ? If so, that works against the intent of that parameter, as I understand it, and should be stated in the documentation. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If used on a page that isn't its own page it will be placed in a tracking category. In almost all cases that usage is also incorrect. Gonnym (talk) 09:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So almost 4000 articles, including several hundred "List of accolades/awards/episodes" are wrong? Also, the description. "This category is for Wikipedia articles using the  template without an ID and missing Wikidata property IMDb ID (P345)." – which, coming from :Category:Wikipedia errors, brought me here – doesn't quite capture that. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, almost 4000 are wrong. You yourself gave two articles as an example and both were incorrect. That's a 100% rate. Give more examples and we can check them out as well. Gonnym (talk) 12:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Category:Pages using IMDb title with no id set' when qid is used