Talk:That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore

message: Do we know where this cover is taken from? Creid8 23:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover Art 

message: Have removed the information on lyric interpretation because (1) interpretation is a matter of opinion and the opinions in the article were those of contributors and (2) the original text had accumulated so many edits by contributors as to make it difficult to read. (I've put the text in the Interpretation section on this page.) 
Have replaced it with information about what is known about the song's narrative, along with a short comment that detailed literal interpretation is probably not possible or not a good idea. (The range of interpretations shown on this page or in the article history demonstrate this.) As a suggestion, any original lyric interpretations should go on this page rather than the article’s. Pololei (talk) 21:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyric interpretation in article

message: I don't think from the lyrics it can be determined that 'the passenger commits murder to “drive the point home.”' I doubt the 'smothering' is meant to be taken as anything more than an angry threat, to indicate how seriously the narrator takes the joke. If indeed the song is about murder and suicide, it would seriously undercut the poignancy of the repeated final lines ("I've seen this happen in other people's lives, and now it's happening in mine."), which I believe refer to the loss of one's sense of humour and inability to laugh at oneself. This subtle self-examination would not be in keeping with the murder/suicide interpretation.
Cdeuskar 03:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - park the car at the side of the road - so I can get off. It would be too far fetched - I don't like your joke so I kill you. Well, The Smiths are more subtle than that. I disagree though that the final lines necessarily mean the loss of one's sense of humor - they might as well mean the loneliness - the loss of one's friends or whatever. The Ubik 16:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interpretation of lyrics 

message: Despite test pressings having been made, a "Meat Is Murder" live EP was aborted in favour of "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" as the next Smiths single. The two singles share some of the live tracks and catalogue numbers. However, there's nothing to indicate that this wasn't a case of those live tracks and catalogue numbers simply being reclaimed and reused.
Although awareness of its existence may prompt curiosity, where the "That Joke..." single is concerned, the "Meat Is Murder" EP is of relatively trivial interest. Certainly, it reveals nothing about "That Joke..." itself. (The article is, after all, about the song, not the single.) The second edition of Goddard's Songs That Saved Your Life devotes two pages to the track with neither referring to the "Meat Is Murder" EP.
Information about the aborted live EP belongs to a "Meat Is Murder" or Smiths discography article. (Indeed, in his book, Goddard places it under the "Meat Is Murder" heading.) Pololei (talk) 21:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Meat Is Murder" live EP

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Tjifa-original.jpg

message: An external link to www.thesmiths.cat showing the poster for the "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" single has been inserted and removed (twice). The initial reason for removal was that it was spam. The latter is that the source is not reliable. Although the link isn't ideal, and although it was initially unfocused and untidy, I'm not convinced that it should be removed. Please expand on the reasons for its removal. 
The link in question is: http://www.thesmiths.cat/2011/12/that-joke-isnt-funny-anymore-aquesta-broma-ja-no-fa-mes-gracia/ Pololei (talk) 09:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:RS. The link clearly does not meet that guideline. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

text: []: "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications. Self-published information should never be used as a source about a living person, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP#Reliable sources." In other words, a fan page doesn't cut it. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link to poster for single