Talk:Te Raekaihau Point

message: Thanks to the extremely hard work of many individuals and the passion of a core of people who simply believed that it was wrong to use open space in such a way, the 'Point' has been saved from development, for now. The David vs Goliath battle is clear from the numbers; The Wellington City Council and associated organisations spent $1.5 Million while the opponents spent something under $200,000, of which at least $100k is still owing, and is subject to fundraising activities over the next several months.
All the copy editing in the world will not alter the basic facts:
 
*Te Rae Kai Hau Point was saved by several groups of people acting on their honest conviction that it was simply wrong; 
*that the majority agreed that it was wrong when properly informed, (the public were seriously misled)
*that the process was subject to serious flaws and needs to be investigated
*that the work to raise the money was a necessary component
*that All citizens of Planet Earth need to look at this example, and act accordingly. 
by Paul Moss. Advocate of open spaces, dark sky (Taonga), lower wasted energy (less lights, less pollution), freedom of speech (respect), truth, and justice prevailing.
Please consider a re-write ahead of a delete, I understand that it takes more time and effort, but it 'saves points'
:Now that the aquarium dispute seems to be settled, I've condensed the article to make it look less like a noticeboard, and more encyclopedic. Anyone know if there a standard box for the LINZ info?Efil's god (talk) 14:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Point is Saved 

message: The dispute is in the environment court so its a bit tricky to determine what can and cant be said here, but at least all the community activity can be reported to illustrate how far reaching this whole thing has become. i can say that there is now plenty of web based reference material available for citation, I made a list on the GADOT sites here: MUSIC LINKS and here: GADOT LINKS.
Please consider any edits carefully and research the origins before deletion, I'll endeavour to continue to substantiate anything that I havent so far The consent document is available and the cultural impact report is available, in fact there is a HUGE wealth of material availble on line now, so thats the real challenge, finding people that are fully dedicated to balancing the article with the other side. A decent image of the place could be put up the top of the article though I reckon. Note that the aurora pics that I actually took from the site and were published by the University of Canterbury. I felt that they perfecty represented a valid case for no lighting that was presented to the hearing by the Wellington Astronomical Society, and was acknowledged by the commissioners in the consent itself. That was a first for NZ resource consents, and astronomy, and as such made national history. Given the interconnected relevance to ecology, environmental responsibilty, and global policy changes going on, it has extraordinary value in the debate. The many thousands of people that visit those images monthly create notability for them, although verification of that may be a bit hard to accept, I have to trust the google tracking data at some point. I'm off to Parliament for the Urban Design Protocol celibrations so I hope to bring back more relevant and verified material with acceptable citations for it, to underscore some of the points. moza 12:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: edit time is here again