Talk:Ian Murdock

message: What has Murdock been doing since leaving Sun in 2010? He does not appear to have updated his blog since 2009. Does he participate in or comment on the development of Debian these days? Is there something else he's working on? Credulity (talk) 16:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Since 2010 

message: Why does he have an English name if he is German? --Error (talk) 21:00, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Debian 0.91 installer says "(yes, I'm a Yank :)". Murdock blogged about his father. Ian Murdock and his sister were born in Germany because his father worked at the University of Konstanz. (An article could be written with that curriculum.) 84.127.80.114 (talk) 17:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family origin 

message: 
should be:

following Spanish naming customs.
Isbilia (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated. Thanks! --PhiLiP (talk) 23:25, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2015 

message: Here's a webscreenshot of Murdock's last twitter posts before his death: https://archive.is/OPlI7 His twitter account was promptly removed a few hours later.Goren (talk) 23:39, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is quite evident to me that someone else impersonated/took over the account with incoherent statements such as a derogatory term for people with a dark skin. That simply did not fit to Ian, not even if he'd be drunk. 2A02:8388:1600:A880:BE5F:F4FF:FECD:7CB2 (talk) 00:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree that it seems very out of character, however I've added a citation needed for the part about dispute around who was in control of the account - the sources present are 1) a capture of the tweets themselves, and 2) discussion and mention of them which seems to assume he was. Neither posits he was not in control of the account at the time, and we should absolutely avoid OR and personal beliefs. ReidE96 (talk) 01:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

text: Considering the account in the archive.is link is clearly Ian's, it was not an impersonation. Just to clear that up. Whether he was in control of the account we cannot say, although someone else using his account after his death is a rather grim thought as well. --188.174.171.65 (talk) 03:14, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last twitter posts 

message: Devil's Breath could be involved in his death. Too early to with his rant very Off-Character. This looks like a homicide regardless of officially pursued direction.
Murdock's twitter clearly indicated that his life was in danger. "suicide" is too extrapolated merely because 1 medium stated something and another few have speculated based on this one communication.
2607:FB90:246B:13A9:764C:FFB0:CBDC:EFCC (talk) 03:16, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is NOT the forum to speculate, propose, investigate or assert ideas not derived directly from reliable sources. none of this material on him, or the circumstances of his death, will go into the article until its public knowledge. And, it may never be public, if its kept as a family matter, which in some circumstances can happen.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:01, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

text: In his twitter he explicitly stated stated that he'd changed his mind about committing suicide (5:30 pm tweet) and then that he was going to instead dedicate the rest of his life to fight against police brutality (6:42 pm; the sad irony of situation is that he kind of did). His last tweet was from 7:12 pm and there was no mention of suicide intentions until then. This is all we can say based on the concrete source, everything on top of this would be speculation.--Goren (talk) 10:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely NOT the forum to speculate, propose, investigate or assert ideas not derived directly from reliable sources such as the idea that Murdock was suicidal given a couple tweets sent out in his name. The article claims that there are no publicly available archives of his tweets, however, and this isn't true.. https://archive.is/OPlI7 . His twitter pretty clearly indicates he felt his life was in danger by user "@jackstormwriter" 2607:FB90:7C5:48E4:65D9:1D2:5778:2A57 (talk) 20:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Suicide 

message: User:KSEltar has moved the page from Ian Murdock to Ian Ashley Murdock as "full name is better for desambiguation [sic]". I'd suggest that, given there are no other notable Ian Murdocks around and there was no existing disambiguation page, this move was a little overkill, and since Murdock is otherwise generally referred to by only his first and last name I'd propose moving back to plain Ian Murdock. Would anyone object/have arguments in favour of including the middle name? ReidE96 (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Article titles should reflect the common name of the subject. clpo13(talk) 16:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted User:KSEltar's page move against Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) / WP:CONCISE / WP:COMMONNAME. There's no other articles with clashing titles. Widefox; talk 20:17, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: I've reverted , again. Murdock being born in Germany does not make him a German citizen. At the time of his birth, Germany citizenship was entirely jus sanguinis, not jus soli. He may have held German citizenship by another means, but not because of where he was born. — Strongjam (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've not seen any new sites refer to him as German, most just say he was born in Germany. His father is American entomologist Larry Murdock who was working at the Uiversitaet Konstanz at the time of his birth, however Dr. Murdock has been working at US universities since 1975 so Ian only spend a couple of years in Germany before moving to the US. — Strongjam (talk) 18:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  German born American v.s. German 

message: And of lack of clarification in this article to those who are readers.
"police were called about someone attempting to break into a home" obviously the elephant in the room is: what was the motive?  broken love?  borrowed possessions he needed?  if it were love i'd beleive he were poisoned but if it were the door of a business associate to most likely guess would be murder.  depends.
As to mental health i will say what i'm sure of: it was either a G.I. illness which causes types of poisoning (from diet, from foo allergy) or he was poisoned (could be intently, non-intently, or medically)
He is right about the police in a way.  People do not just become unreasonable for no reason.
There is always a reason as scientific as Ian was scientific, I'm %100 sure it was not genetic.  The police claim it is common the CDC of usa report NO, it is impossible to magically become suicidal without a cause at an older age.
Ian is gone but his already "laminated" works cannot be put asunder.  That is one of his wonders.
:Where is the Police report ? --84.223.89.166 (talk) 07:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't mention speculations or your viewpoint in the article. That would be a blatant violation of WP:OR. I have to ask the same question like the IP above asked. "Where is the Police report ?". -- ChamithN (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unhappy with Police report 

message: I can't find any news in Google on Murdock's death. Is there any investigation or any new information at all, apart for speculations? If there are, it would be very beneficial to put them into the article.--Goren (talk) 21:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: wikt:sweep something under the rug LjL (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, seems like that's exactly what happened. Half a year later, still no developments on the story.--94.19.200.59 (talk) 11:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any developments? 

message: Substituted at 18:42, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Age: 42 Height: 5' 10" Weight: 208 Ibs.
 
PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION: The body is received in a white plastic pouch and is
identified by an appropriately labeled Medical Examiner's tag attached to the right great toe.
When first viewed, the decedent is unclad and is not accompanied by personal effects or
valuables, There is a vacuum cleaner with attached cord that accompanies the body, as the
ligature. The vacuum cleaner with attached cord is retained as Evidence.
 
The body is cold, following refrl'geration. There is moderate rigor mortis present. There is
blanchable red posterior dependent lividity, except in areas exposed to pressure and red
congestion of the head and neck above the level of the ligature mark described below under
"Evidence of Injury." There is no evidence of decomposition, embalming, or organ donation.
 
EXTERNAL EXAMINATION: The body is of a well-developed, well-nourished,
moderately hirsute, white man whose appearance is compatible with the recorded age of 42
years. The neck, head, face, torso and upper and lower extremities are described further
under "Evidence of Injury."
 
The scalp hair is brown, straight, and measures up to approximately 5 inches in greatest
length. Thereis an approximately li2 inch in greatest length brown moustache and beard.
The eyelids are intact and unremarkable. There are rare petechial hemorrhages of the lef(
upper bulbar conjunctivae. The sclerae and conjunctivae are otherwise congested, and
otherwise unremarkable. The corneas are translucent. The pupils are equally dilated at
approximately 5 mm in greatest diameter. The irides are brown, The mouth has natural teeth
in good repair, and an atraumatic mucosa. The nose is intact, symmetrical, and
unremarkable. The external ears are bilaterally symmetrical, well-formed, intact, and
unremarkable.
 
The trachea is palpable in the midline. Cerebrospinal fluid from the cisterna magna is clear.
The chest is otherwise well-developed and symmetrical. The abdomen is flat. The posterior
body surfaces and anus are otherwise unremarkable. The external genitalia are those of an
uncircumcised adult man, with testes bilaterally descended within the scrotum.
 
The bilateral upper extremities, below the level of the mid-upper arms are tanned. The upper
and lower extremities are well-developed, with all digits present. The fingernails and
toenails are soiled.
 
EVIDENCE OF MEDICAL THERAPY: There is a single electrocardiographic
monitoring electrode on the anterior left side of the torso.
 
IDENTIFYING MARKS AND SCARS: Encircling the right arm is a tattoo which is
photo-documented.
 
Page 1
 
 
 
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Medical Division
 
Case No. 2015-1223
 
Name: MURDOCK, IAN Date & Time of Necropsy: December 29, 2015 0900 Hours
 
 
EVIDENCE OF INJURY:
 HANGING: On the anterior and left side of the neck are parallel red linear abrasions with
intermittent areas of sparing. The individual red abrasions measure no greater than 1/16 inch
in greatest width. This area of discontinuous parallel and paired red abrasions measures
approximately 5 inches x 3/4 inches overall. This area of red abrasion is centered
approximately 3-I/4 inches below the left external auditory meatus. The anterior portion of
the red abrasions is centered over the thyroid cartilage.
 
The neck is dissected after the thoracoabdominal and cranial contents are removed.
Internally, the superficial and deep muscles of the neck show no evidence of hemorrhages.
The tongue is unremarkable. The hyoid bone and thyroid and cricoid cartilages are intact,
with no adjacent soft tissue hemorrhages. The mucosae of the larynx and trachea are
unremarkable with no intraluminal obstructive lesions. There are no prevertebral fascial
hemorrhages or underlying cervical vertebral fractures.
 
 BLUNT FORCE INJURIES: On tlle upper central forehead are three (3) separate scabbed
lacerations ranging from approximately 3/8 inch to 5/8 inch in greatest dimension. On the
left supraclavicular fossa is an approximately I /2 inch in greatest dimension red abrasion. On
the posteriorrightside ofthe neck is a punctate healing red abrasion. On theupper central
chest is an approximately 1-1/2 inch in greatest dimension purple-red contusion. On the
upper right side of the chest is an approximately I-1/2 inch in greatest dimension purple-red
contusion. On the central abdomen are two (2) separate purple-red contusions ranging up to
1 inch in greatest dimension. On the lower left side of the abdomen is an approximately 3
inch in greatest dimension red abrasion. On the upper right side of the back is an
approximately I inch in greatest dimension obliquely oriented linear red abrasion. On the
upper left side of the back is an approximately 3 inch in greatest length obliquely oriented
linear red abrasion. On the lower left side of the back, just above the left buttock, is an
approximately 2 inch in greatest dimension purple-red contusion. On the front of the right
arm is an approximately 4-I/2 inch in greatest dimension purple-red contusion. On the
medial right forearm, near the right wrist, is an approximately 1/2 inch in greatest dimension
purple-red contusion. On the back of the left arm is an approximately 1 inch in greatest
dimension purple-red contusion. On the back of the left elbow is an approximately 2 inch in
greatest dimension red contusion. On the anterior left forearm are four (4) purple-red
contusions ranging up to 3/4 inch in greatest dimension. On the back of the left thumb is an
approximately 1/4 inch in greatest dimension red abrasion. On the back of the left index
finger is an approximately 1/2 inch in greatest dimension red abrasion. On the bilateral knees
are red contusions and purple-red contusions measuring up to 5 inches in greatest dimension.
On the front of the right shin is an approximately 1/2 inch in greatest dimension red abrasion.
The well-developed skeleton is without evidence of palpable fractures. On dissection of the
scalp, the skull is intact with no evidence of fractures.
 
Page 2
 
 
 
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Medical Division
 
Case No. 2015-1223
 
Name: MURDOCK, IAN Date & Time of Necropsy: December 29, 2015 0900 Hours
 
These injuries and findings, havt`ng been described above, will not be repeated.
 
INTERNAL EXAMINATION: The subcutaneous body fat is approximately 2.5 cm in its
maximum thickness at the mid-abdomen. The pleural cavities are free of abnormal
collections of fluid or hemorrhage. The visceral and parietal pleurae are intact and
unremarkable. The pericardia! sac is intact and unremarkable. The abdominal cavity is intact
and unremarkable. The lower abdominal wall has apparent surgical mesh imbedded in the
fascia with no apparent overlying scar. The thoracoabdominal organs are in their usual
positions. The diaphragms are intact.
 
CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM: The heart weighs approximately 500 grams. The
epicardium is smooth and intact. The cardiac contour is globoid. The coronary arteries
follow their usual anatomic pathways, with no atherosclerotic stenosis or recent thrombus of
the epicardial vessels. The myocardium is red-brown, without evidence of infarcts or focal
lesions. The left ventricle measures approximately I .0 cm thick concentrically; and the right
ventricle measures approximately 0.3 cm thl~ck concentrically. The chambers are dilated.
The endocardium, chordae, and papillary muscles are unremarkable. The valves are intact
and unremarkable. The foramen ovale is closed. The aorta and its major branches follow the
normal pathways and are unremarkable. The vena cava and major veins are intact and
unremarkable.
 
RESPIRATORY SYSTEM: The left lung weighs approximately 510 grams; the right lung
weighs approximately 600 grams. Externally and on sectioning, the pulmonary parenchyma
is without masses, consolidations, obstructions, hemorrhages, or destructive emphysema.
The tracheobronchial tree shows an unremarkable mucosa with no intraluminal obstructive
lesions. The pulmonary vessels show no evidence of thromboemboli.
 
HEPATORILIARY SYSTEM: The liver weighs approximately 2,070 grams and has an
intact capsule covering a moderately firm, red-brown parenchyma, with sharp anterior
borders. Cut sections of the liver show no lesions.
 
The gallbladder contains approximately 30 ml of yellow-brown bile with no stones.
 
HEMATOPOIETIC SYSTEM: The spleen weighs approximately 210 grams and has an
intact capsule covering moderately firm, red-purple parenchyma which on cut sections shows
unremarkable lymphoid follicles. The thymus has been replaced by adipose tissue and is
unremarkable. The thoracoabdominal and cervical lymph nodes are not enlarged. The
visible bone marrow is unremarkable.
 
ENDOCRINE SYSTEM: The pituitary gland is intact and not enlarged, and is
unremarkable. The thyroid gland is bilaterally symmetrical and unremarkable in color, size,
and consistency. The cortices and medullae of the adrenal glands are unremarkable.
 
Page 3
 
 
 
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Medical Division
 
Case No. 2015-1223
 
Name: MURDOCK, IAN Date & Time of Necropsy: December 29, 2015 0900 Hours
 
Externally and on sectioning, the well-lobulated pancreas is without increased fibrosis,
hemorrhage, or mineralizations.
 
GASTROINTESTINAL SYSTEM: The oropharynx and esophagus show unremarkable
mucosae. The mucosa, wall, and serosa of the stomach are unremarkable~ The stomach
contains approximately 200 ml of brown thin fluid, with no identifiable food fragments,
tablets, capsules, or pill residues. The small intestine, large intestine, mesentery, and
appendix are unremarkable.
 
GENITOURINARY SYSTEM: The left kidney weighs approximately 200 grams; the right
kidney weighs approximately 190 grams. The renal capsules are intact and strip with ease
from the underlying smooth, dark-red cortices. The corticomedullary junctions are well-
demarcated, and the pyramids and papll'lae are unremarkable. The calyces and pelves are not
dilated, and the ureters are patent to the bladder, which contains approximately 300 ml of
clear yellow urine. The bladder mucosa and wall are intact, with unremarkable
trabeculations.
 
MUSCULOSKELETAL SYSTEM: The firm, red-brown muscles are without evidence of
focal lesions. The skeleton has been described above.
 
HEAD AND CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM: The soft tl~ s~ -s an-~d m- "uslc esfoth -e-scalp
are intact and unremarkable. The skull has been described above. There is no epidural,
subdural, subarachnoid, intraparenchymal or intraventricular hemorrhage. The
leptomeninges are thin and delicate. The arteries at the base of the brain are unremarkable.
The dural sinuses and floor of the skull are intact and unremarkable. Externally and on
sectioning, the cerebral hemispheres, deep brain nuclei, cerebellum, brainstem, and
uppermost cervical spinal cord are bilaterally symmetrical and unremarkable.
 
 
FINDINGS:
I. HANGING
A. LIGATURE ABRASIONS OF ANTERIOR AND RIGHT SIDE OF NECK
B. LIGATURE RETAINED
2. MULTIPLE BLUNT FORCE INJURIES:  CUTANEOUS LACERATIONS,
ABRASIONS AND CONTUSIONS OF FOREHEAD, TORSO AND UPPER AND
LOWER EXTREMITIES
3. DILATED CARDIOMYOPATHY (500 GRAMS)
4. HEPATOMEGALY (2,070 GRAMS) AND SPLENOMEGALY (210 GRAMS)
5. CLINICAL HISTORY:  ALCOHOL ABUSE WITH WITHDRAWAL SEIZURES,
AND ASPERGER SYNDROME
 
Page 4
 
 
 
M.D. Hunter, M.D.
A.P. Hart, M.D.
E.G. Moffatt, M.D.
H.S. Narula, M.D.
 
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Medical Division
 
Case No. 2015-1223
 
Name: MURDOCK, IAN Date & Time of Necropsy: December 29, 2015 0900 Hours
 
 
 
CAUSE OF DEATH: HANGING  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.88.118.58 (talk) 09:37, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autopsy Report 2 

message: NAME: MURDOCK, !AN
CASE NO: 201612237
 ANALYTICAL RESULTS:
 
SPECIMEN TYPE COMPOUND RESULT UNITS ANALYSIS BY
 
Blood (Peripheral)
Vitreous Humor
 
Blood (Peripheral)
Blood (Peripheral)
Blood (Peripheral)
Blood (Peripheral)
Blood (Peripheral)
 
Urine
Urine
Urine
Urine
Urine
 
Ethanol
Ethanol
 
Chlordiazepoxidel
Nordiazepaml
Diazepam
Oxazepam
Temazepam
 
Chlordiazepoxide
Nordiazepam
Diazepam
Oxazepam
Temazepam
 
SUBMISSION DATE: 12/31/2015 M. E.: AH
REPORT DATE: 05/09/2016
 
0.21
0.24
 
c/o (w/v) HS-GC-FID
% (w/v) HS-GC-FID
 
1200 ng/mL
230 ng/mL
45 ng/mL
9 ng/mL
Confirmed Present*
 
Confirmed Present
Confirmed Present
Confirmed Present
Confirmed Present
Confirmed Present
 
LC-MS/MS
LC-fvfS/MS
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
 
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
LC-MS/MS
 
 COMMENTS
Report prepared by MM. MM
 
 
~ d
 
 
                     ANALYTICAL PROTOCOL:
Specimens submitted were subjected to Analytical Panels A and B, Analytical Panel A employs HS-GC-FID to detect and
quantify ethanol~ methanol, isopropanol and acetone and may also detect other volatile compounds which would require
additional analyses for confirmation and/or quantitation. Analytical Panel B employs Biochip Array Technology, GC, GC-fvfS
.and/or LC-MS/MS to detect, confirm and/or quantify Amphetamines, Barbiturates, Bath Salts I & II, Benzodiazepines,
Benzylpiperazines, Buprenorphine, Cannabinoids, Chloral Hydrate, Cocaine, Ethyl Gfucuronfde (EtG), Fentanyl, Haloperidof,
Ibuprofen, Ketamine, Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD), Meprobamate~ Mescaline, Methadone, Opiates, Opioids,
Oxycodone, Phencyclfdine (PCP), Phenylpiperazines 1. & II, Propoxyphene~ Salicylates, Salvinorin, Synthetic Cannabinoids I,
II, !II, IV & V, Tricy~lic Antidepressants.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.88.118.58 (talk) 09:40, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we get a source for those? --Goren (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicology TOXICOLOGY REPORT