Talk:Planet of the Ood

message: I very much doubt that the Paul Clayton whom is linked in the nav is the one who acted in this episode, given he commited suicide in 1967. - JVG (talk) 20:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Paul Clayton

message: *The music changes at the end of the episode. When the Ood says that The Doctors song must end soon it changes to that of when The Doctor met Rose for the last time..--83.217.170.161 (talk) 23:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it played the Doctor's Theme, not Doomsday. It's the Time Lord motif, as it were, rather than Rose's. Would anyone mind if I edited to reflect that? justaredherring (talk) 14:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, yeah, because it was definitely "Doomsday". —TreasuryTag—t—c 14:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, rewatched, and you're right. My apologies. >_> justaredherring (talk) 00:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: How ironic, for it wasn't anything more than wet paper shreds and bits for simulation, see the last paragraph of the production notes — does that still count?—WurmWoodeT 03:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems worth a mention to slot these episodes into the Doctor Who timeline and mark the links in the continuity section. Winterspell (talk) 19:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Continuity points (merged)

message: OK, folks, I'm having trouble thinking of an image we can use that will satisfy the NFCC... but there must be one!! Any ideas? —TreasuryTag—t—c 09:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The giant Ood brain. Alientraveller (talk) 11:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, we don't have to have one ;) Sceptre (talk) 11:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

text: But it'd be nice! —TreasuryTag—t—c 14:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

text: How about an Ood holding a hind-brain.  That should be informative. DonQuixote (talk) 15:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, and has the advantage of being unique to this story and central to its plot. Good suggestion. Radagast (talk) 20:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: True, and nowhere on this site do I see an image of an Ood! Alientraveller (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I already made the screenshot; will upload when I get home (around 10pm CET).  — Edokter • Talk •  18:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: OK, hope you like it.  — Edokter • Talk •  21:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Because it wouldn't satisfy the NFCC. —TreasuryTag—t—c 16:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: The Doctor notes that the Ood couldn't evolve into being a subservient species because they wouldn't be able to survive in nature that way, but somehow the Ood are perfectly fine evolutionarily carrying around their own brains? Shouldn't this incongruity be mentioned somewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyinginbedmon (talk • contribs) 16:28, 20 April 2008
:No, it shouldn't, because aside from being illogical, it also violates our policy on original research. —TreasuryTag—t—c 15:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We aren't bound by what the episode says. DWM makes a point about the Ood's subservience, and the selfish gene argument is what the "The Ood aren't born like this" quote is about. Sceptre (talk) 01:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't. The Selfish gene theory does not state that a species cannot evolve into slavery. Indeed, if it benefits reprodution and/or spread of the own genes, evolving into slavery would be perfectly fine with the selfish Gene. See symbiosis and domestication for similar phenomena in real evolution. 90.135.227.254 (talk) 20:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not getting into a debate about biology. I'm just saying, DWM says that line is about the selfish gene, and it's be "verifiability, not truth". Sceptre (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see where there's hypocrisy. Type 40 (talk) 15:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hypocrisy

message: I disagree that Song and Story are synonyms in the context and since what is said by the characters in the episode is "song" I can see no reason why "story" would be substituted. Jasonfward (talk) 14:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song or Story 

message: I dispute the commented out notes in the text saying the use of the Doomsday music is unverifable. The episode is the source, plus when taken in context with Partners in Crime (Doctor Who) there is a clear connection (though noting that would be premature). It is a dead guarantee that any recorded commentary will also verify this, so if anyone wants to be anal about it, add the "Citation needed" tag until the commentary is made available on the DVD in a few months. 23skidoo (talk) 22:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The commentary for the episode just has the collective gasp at that part, unlike the PiC commentary which has Tennant explicitly saying "that's the music from Doomsday". Besides, the series 3 soundtrack has two very similar pieces of music: "Boe" and "The Doctor Forever". Sceptre (talk) 22:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Doomsday music

message: someone please add reviews,criticism,praise, etc...can't do it myself as could never be npov about tate >:( Jw2034 (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception

message: OK, could someone clarify this for me? I'm asusming speculation "isn't allowed" on the pages, after I put a bit down and it was deleted. Is that right?
The speculation I thought about was Donna mentioning "all the bees disappearing", she said this in the first episode as well, possibly refering to a future episode, perhaps the Unicorn and the Wasp or whichever episode has wasps/bees in (if it's not TUATW). It could also be a reference to the last episode, as there are links between every episode going to the last one? (Heard on Dr Who Confidential). What do you think? Dvp7 (talk) 12:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fairly confident that unless the production team specifically state the bees vanishing is important, we can only make the connections retroactively for the purposes of a continuity section. In addition, at present, we have no reliable/verifiable sources saying that it will be important, so we have to wait for it to become important before it can be noted. I think that's right? 86.136.156.205 (talk) 16:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's a reference to a plot point but to an actual fact. The bees *are* disappearing and no one knows why. See Colony Collapse Disorder. Type 40 (talk) 17:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation

message: What does this actually mean? Paul Melville Austin (talk) 12:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably means too old style Doctor Who, so not so much what it is today, meant for all ages not just adults kind of thing. Dvp7 (talk) 12:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

text: DW's original run. Sceptre (talk) 14:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a reference to the Malcolm Hulke/Terrence Dicks era moral undertones to the story a la The Silurians. Type 40 (talk) 15:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "too old Doctor Who" 

message: From WP:References:
When quoting someone you should always add a citation when quoting published material, and the citation should be placed directly after (or just before) the quotation, which should be enclosed within double quotation marks — "like this" — or single quotation marks if it is a quote-within-a-quote — "and here is such a 'quotation' as an example." For long quotes, you may wish to use Quotation templates.
Thus you need a reference at least at the end of every sentance where you have been using quotations even if it is the same reference, as it must be made 100% undeniably clear where a direct quotation has come from. This will be necessary for me to pass this article at GA and will be included in the GA review once it is completed so please don't remove the  templates when I re-add them. I know it is quite obvious but it is the rule and it is one of the policies GA articles need to pass. Your other option is to combine sentances to make them longer Million_Moments (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. There is no reason to place references after every sentence; they entire paragraph is cited at the end of the relevant sentences, which should be quite enough. If you are adament about it, alias the references with a named ref tag; don't add  tags; that runs the risk of the quotes being removed entirely.  — Edokter • Talk •  11:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was merely adding the  tags so that when I put this article on hold the editors will more easily be able to see where I want them to move the references, it is doubtful the quotations will be removed. However since the GA review process does encourage the reviwer to make the changes to pass the article themselves I will just add the citations myself though this will delay the review process somewhat as I will have to read the articles myself to be certain. I was hoping the editors who added the original references would do the named ref tag process as I assume they have read the articles. Million_Moments (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of May 6, 2008, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: Pass
:2. Factually accurate?: References should always be given after direct quotes, fixed. Do not reference unoficial figures.
:3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
:4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
:5. Article stability? Pass
:6. Images?: Pass
  If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.</div>— Million_Moments (talk) 19:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: The Ood tell the Doctor, "Your song must end soon." This seems to be a reference to River Song. Should this be mentioned in the article?--Jeffro77 (talk) 18:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 08:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  River Song 

message: This section does not have any cites to independent reliable secondary sources. Do any secondary sources give this material significant discussion? If not, the subsection should be removed. Cirt (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Citing primary sources for fictional event is entirely legit. There is not reason to remove it.  — Edokter • Talk •  21:47, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. It's undue weight, and unencyclopedic. Cirt (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's neither. The material is clearly relevant. ╟─TreasuryTag►inspectorate─╢ 21:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Show me where this has gotten significant discussion in secondary sources independent of the subject. Cirt (talk) 21:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continuity section problem 

message: About halfway through the episode after Donna is stuffed in a crate with a bunch of Ood, the doctor is running between the crates and I'm almost 100% certain that he doesn't yell out "Donna" but instead "Clara, where are you?". I'm not a wiki editor or anything, I came to see if it was some kind of error but there's no mention of it so I thought I'd bring it up in case nobody else noticed. PaulVRB (talk) 04:51, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Error? 

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