Talk:Le Samouraï

message: I've looked everywhere from Amazon and Alibris to the Library of Congress and Google, and the only mention I can find of the Joan McLeod novel is in reference to this movie - it simply does not exist in the book catalogs I checked. I am beginning to think that all of the references to this book being the uncredited source for the movie are derived from a single IMDB entry, and that that entry may be in error.
Can anyone confirm that there is a novel called 'The Ronin' by McLeod that came out before this movie? Perhaps it was a foreign language title that was cited in an English-language interview with the director, and either the title or the author name got mangled in the process? --Zippy 23:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joan McLeod novel "The Ronin" as basis for movie 

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message: This article reads more like a movie review or an essay from a film class than an encyclopedic entry. Lack of citations and phrasing such as "three or so" only compound the problem. This really needs change. Aaeamdar (talk) 02:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: In Le Samouraï's infobox, it states that this French film is based on "Joan McLeod's novel The Ronin (uncredited)". Because it's uncredited, I thought it was necessary to find a citation that officially confirms the link. As it turns out, the novel doesn't exist. I checked every source that catalogues books in every possible language and found that each has no record of Joan McLeod's The Ronin.
I thought perhaps it was an unpublished manuscript, so I checked books and essays about the film and the director, and almost all just state "Joan McLeod's novel The Ronin" while citing other film books as sources. The earliest mention I could find is in an AFI (American Film Institute) article, published in 1972, and it doesn't cite a source. I checked French sources and the early works don't mention the author and the novel while the later works do, citing film books as sources. I think film authors and journalists relied on each other without actually checking whether the novel even exists.
I checked variations of the author's name: Jean McLeod, Joan MacLeod and Joan McCloud. No luck. Screenwriter Georges Pellegrin, writer-director Jean-Pierre Melville and producers Raymond Borderie and Eugène Lépicier are unfortunately dead, but none of them had directly mentioned Joan McLeod or/and the novel in any interviews (French, English and Japanese). Actor Alain Delon, who starred in this film, is still alive, so I got in touch with his management agency. His publicist replied that Mr. Delon doesn't recall mentions of the novel during pre-production and the filming. In fact, he apparently didn't realise it was based on the novel (obviously, I can't use this as a source as it's way too informal.)
As far as I can tell, the novel and its author don't exist. Not in the records at the Congress of Library (US) and the British Library, not in the World Catalogue Index, and not in any usual copyright databases. Yet it's mentioned in well over 40 film books and essays since 1972; all with no mention of publisher and year of publishing, and the majority cites each other. 
With all that in mind, I'm removing the reference to this alleged novel from the film's Info box. That's unless someone could provide the publishing details of the novel or a citable proof of screenwriter Georges Pellegrin, writer-director Jean-Pierre Melville or producers Raymond Borderie and Eugène Lépicier acknowledging the novel as the basis of this film. 0zero9nine (talk) 17:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing a reference of Joan McLeod's novel from Infobox 

message: It seems to me the pigeons Forrest Whithaker uses in Ghost doc are allusive to the bird Alain Delon breeds in his case.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.52.62.182 (talk) 21:31, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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