Talk:Copts/Archive 4

message: Did ancient Copts invent this ancient (4th century?) for bookbinding? Were these people living in Ethiopia? Or Egypt? Or who were the inventors of this bookbinding exactly? African Christians?--Sonjaaa 18:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coptic bookbinding?

message: This article has been reviewed against the good article criteria and has failed.  I did have a whole in depth review for you but my computer just crashed and took with it the whole damned thing!  Here is a truncated version:
*You don't cite enough sources anywhere, especially in the sections which I have flagged up as needing references.
*The language section needs to be expanded.  Is the language widely spoken or is it only liturgical?  Is it taught in schools, at home or at church?  How many people speak it?  Why don't I know this from reading the article?
*The lead section needs a re-write, to pass both the Well Written and NPOV criteria.  Get rid of the parentheses.  The majority of whom?  Does this mean that the majority of Copts are members of the Coptic Orthodox Church, or that the Coptic Orthodox Church is the biggest Coptic church in the world?  Are the two the same?  Just get rid of those parentheses!  *Also, in your infobox you cite the estimate of the Coptic church.  Both the Coptic Church and the Egyptian Government are bias sources, but you have in the CIA a neutral and disinterested third party - use their estimate for the infobox.
Chrisfow 17:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: I deleted two things from the page because they are original research. The so called "Coptic flag" because no such flag exits. The coptic church doesn't have a flag. I think this needs to be made clear. The Coptic Church doesn't have a flag. It looks like it was created by someone with free time and a photoshop. When I google it I only find it on the site that created it, but it's not even used by the US Copts organization. The second is the template which is reserved only for ethnic groups. Pages like Druze, Hindus, Maronite Church and other religious groups don't have it, of course bec that would be original research too. The history section too has had stuff dumped into it without using proper citations and references, just leaves obsecure footnotes. It needs to be examined for original research and neutrality. Egyegy 16:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverted you edits back since the whole matter is still being discussed. Thanks. --Lanternix 17:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Back again since no one agreed that either item can go into the article from the start. It seems like they were left only as a comprise which you prefer to ignore. You you will need to justify why they should be in the article without proper sourcing. Egyegy 18:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep on reverting it back, I will continue to do the same until you learn how to have a mature conversation about a topic, instead of wasting months worth of work. Thanks. --Lanternix 02:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: original research

message: I have protected the page for one week. All parties engaged in the edit war should work together on this talk page to come to an agreement over the disputed content. Be wary that any further edit warring after the expiration of the protection will result in WP:3RR blocks for those who violate it. Sean William 03:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: I added further information and supplied sources, the fact that you keep reverting it back and deleting months worth of work is unexplainable. I am afraid I will continue to change it whenever I have the chance until an agreement is reached concerning the various points of dispute. I am not ready to see incorrect information about Copts on Wikipedia. Thanks. --Lanternix 03:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes!