Talk:Barabbas

message: I came upon an interesting theory, perhaps it could be mentioned in passing in this article ( I just don't see where ). 
There are many contradictions between Matthew's and Luke's stories about birth and childhood of Jesus. According to Matthew, Jesus, grandson of Jacob, was born during the time of Herod ( i.e. before 4 BC ), received gifts from the Magi, his family fled to Egypt to escape the Massacre of the Innocents, and then a few years later moved to Nazareth. According to Luke, Jesus, grandson of Heli, was born during the Quirinius census ( 6 AD ), taken to Jerusalem and then returned home to Nazareth. There's no mention of the Magi, massacre or Egypt. 
The theory goes that these two passages refer to two different Jesuses, both sufficiently important to Jewish people at the time. Later these two got confused. One of them is Jesus Christ; the other - an insurrectioner who planned to overthrow the Roman government in Judea - is no other than Jesus Barabbas.
Let me see if I can pull up some links. --8.4.80.163 01:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Conflicting details in speculative biographies of historical figures are not usually harmonized by claims that there were multiple persons. --Wetman 00:49, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical biographies

message: In the "Art, literature, and media" section, is it relevant enough to mention the "Welease Woger" scene from "Life of Brian"? It clearly relates to the Barabbas story, albeit one step removed in the form of parody. 115.64.107.183 (talk) 08:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Most definitely! Arminden (talk) 12:02, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life of Brian 

message: Somebody has hidden an unsourced and intrinsically illogical antisemitic "argument" behind 3 sources of which none supports it:
:"but most scholars consider that the population of Judea at the time was mostly of Jewish origin."
This tries to stand in opposition to Ratzinger's article, in which the pope places guilt on two groups, the Temple aristocracy and rebellious supporters of Barabbas.
# It is UNSOURCED. Placing it behind 3 unrelated sources is proof of either conceit, or Wiki illiteracy.
# There is no confrontation of facts, no "but" here: Ratzinger doesn't claim the crowd at the trial or the priests weren't Jewish. The addition is either brought by someone who cannot grasp what makes a statement be a rational counter-argument, or who willingly misleads the superficial reader through logically unconnected, but suggestive statements. Unacceptable in both cases (either stupid, or deceitful).
I have removed this junk. Arminden (talk) 12:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitic idiocy hidden in unsourced edit 

message: For some reason, the "Sources" section includes the book The Master and Margarita, by Mikhail Bulgakov, but this book isn't cited or referenced in the actual article. I looked at the Wikipedia articles for both the book and its author, but neither of them mention Barabbas. Should "The Master and Margarita" be removed from the "Sources" section, then? Lizardcreator (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like you make a good case for removing it to me. 79.45.21.49 (talk) 11:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Master and Margarita"