Talk:Disappearance of Robin Graham

message: So, CHP policy was changed, but to what effect? What do they do with stranded female motorists now to ensure their safety? 86.2.38.112 (talk) 11:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what current CHP policy is, but the change made in 1970 involved increased monitoring, coded radio transmissions, instructions to stay inside the car with doors locked and windows up until the summoned tow-truck driver appears or officers return, etc. LynnMaudlin (talk) 07:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if changed CHP policy would have made a difference to Robin seeing as she seemed to have got into the Corvette willingly. The CHP officers on duty that night could have prevented her abduction by verifying the man's identity before driving off.--jeanne (talk) 07:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an interesting question. They couldn't have stopped her from getting into a car with a stranger but one assumes that he wouldn't have stopped to pick her up if the CHP had been more present. LynnMaudlin (talk) 01:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

text: No he would have likely driven off, especially if he'd been the man who had abducted Rose Tashman. I'm curious as to whether or not the CHP who phoned the Graham home and spoke to Robin's sister relayed the information to Robin that her parents were out and hadn't yet come home. That would perhaps explain why she accepted the ride with that man rather than just wait for her parents to come and get her.To me, that is the greatest mystery of all.--jeanne (talk) 06:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I have always believed that the man in the corvette claimed to be an undercover cop and used a scare tactic to get her into his car. For instance, telling her a maniac was on the loose and known to attack women on that freeway stretch. And Robin, being only 18 years old, would have likely accepted his story, especially after the Rose Tashman murder the previous year. He may have even held a fake police badge. I knew a guy who had one back in 1974 in Los Angeles. If the guy had been pleasant and good-looking, she could have easily fallen into his trap. At 18, a girl is very innocent and trusting.--jeanne (talk) 10:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

text:  Thank you for your help on this. Regards, David. David J Johnson (talk) 09:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  CHP Policy 

message: I'm ambivalent about this; I didn't include it myself for fear it could be used in some way - is a deceased person at risk for identity theft? LynnMaudlin (talk) 01:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Once a person obtains a social security number,their identity cannot be stolen.At 18 years,Robin would have had her social security number(all jobs require it).People thus only steal the identities of children who die before their third year.I think her birthday needs to be kept,especially in view of the possible Zodiac killer connection.Robin was born at the New Moon, she disappeared during the Full Moon.Rose Tashman was abducted at the New Moon.Howard Davis believes in a Zodiac link.I haven't got Rose's birthday.Anyway,the more info available on Robin the better.I think a better photo of her should've been circulated at the time.The one in the paper wasn't too clear and the description vague.I mean were her eyes dark brown or hazel?Did she have freckles?Was she pale or tanned? Also, you assume she is deceased.Do the police share that belief or is she still listed as "missing"?jeanne (talk) 07:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason I mentioned the possibility of her still being alive is on account of the many diverse cults that were active in Southern California back then.I can personally remember being approached constantly by these people,especially in Hollywood.There is a remote chance she was kidnapped and brainwashed by some group.The omly drawback to that theory is her continued absence all these years.I am probably being optimistic due to the fact that her body was never found whereas all the others were.As for the quality of photos back then-well I agree with you there!All one has to do is look at our own snapshots taken in 1970-blurry,indistinct.I don't recall ever seeing any posters of her around the LA area after her disappearance.It must be a nightmare for her parents.Robin would be close to 56 now.I know there is someone out there who knows what happened to her.jeanne (talk) 05:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In re-reading the article, I don't see a strong presumption that she must be dead but, while we might speculate about cults, etc., it's pure speculation and not appropriate for inclusion. I don't know any of the standard cults (for instance the ones that approached you) that were abducting people. LynnMaudlin (talk) 23:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree that the article cannot speculate about cults,etc.Not any shred of evidence.The cult that used to approach me back in 1972 was run by a couple named Amato or D'Amato.The wife's name was Susan.They were accused later of holding people against their will,extortion,etc.They were located in North Hollywood.I was not interested in what they had to say.Howard Davis says on the ZodiacKiller forum that he ate dinner at the Graham's house and Mrs.Graham showed him the letter that woman wrote her about the man with police ID.He firmly believes the Zodiac was involved.I'm inclined not to agree unless there was a copycat around the LA area.I don't see a connection with Robin and those victims up in Northern California.I am surprised he has not commented on this article though.jeanne (talk) 12:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps you mean Tony Alamo? Scary article from Intelligence Report in the outside links. LynnMaudlin (talk) 07:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

text: That's it! Tony and Susan Alamo. The numerous times their acolytes stopped me on Hollywood Blvd and the Strip with their recruitment stories! Luckily I wasn't interested. Alamo. That's the name, I had forgotten it (middle age memory loss).In the early 1970's their people were prowling Hollywood.Perhaps some of those types entered Pier One Imports and befriended Robin.jeanne (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB addition 

message: ::Did the Grahams have to wait the standard 24 hours before the police officially listed Robin as missing or was foul play immediatly suspected?--jeanne (talk) 09:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not home right now so I can't confirm it but I believe that was one of the issues; I'll try to get back and confirm shortly (or, if you've got library access to any of the links from the article, I believe one of those references it). LynnMaudlin (talk) 06:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason I ask is because of the conflicting descriptions given by the CHPs officers regarding the man in the Corvette seen talking to Robin. At first they describe him as blonde then change it to dark-haired. That discrepancy leads me to believe the police did not question them immediately following her disappearance.--jeanne (talk) 08:49, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

text: No. The unidentified woman's body was discovered in December 1970, and it said her face was recognizable, so obviously Robin's parents would have identified her as being their daughter had the woman actually been Robin! Besides, the discovered woman had black hair, Robin had brown. The woman was described as being 18-30 years old, but probably closer to 25-30. Robin's photo shows her to have looked no more than 20. She was in point of fact, 18 years old.--jeanne (talk) 07:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

text: That girl doesn't look like Robin. This girl's forehead is higher, her eyebrows are thinner, the hair's diffferent. I'm sure the Grahams would have been notified, and dental records  were available for Robin. Robin has never been heard from since 15 Novembe 1970. That tragic girl was not Robin.--jeanne (talk) 18:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't a photo currently linked, so I can't offer an opinion on that. Robin's hair was a medium-dark brown, not black. No idea whether detectives would have alerted her parents to this case or not; I suspect they would only ask them to come down and identify the body of case 1367 if they thought it likely to be Robin. Yes, they would have had dental records to check but DNA testing wasn't available at that time (shoot, remember that in 1994-95 juries were still very confused by DNA evidence; consider the OJ case); no idea if they did blood typing between the two women. LynnMaudlin (talk) 07:42, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no physical resemblance whatsoever between the two young women. Lynn, from your comments, it appears as if you were personally acquainted with Robin; why not put her on Facebook? You never know what kind of responses the page will get? After all, even though almost 40 years has passed since her disappearance, I'm sure there are those out there who may be able to shed some light on the mystery.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:55, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  24 hours?