Talk:Snowy Mountains Scheme

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replies: text: done. --Hemanshu 06:48, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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message: I moved the following list (presumably a to-do list for missing stuff in the article) from the article page:
* Details of the scheme (pictures required).
* History of proposal and construction.
* Huge number of immigrant workers, many deaths.
* Economic impact.
* Current operation (privatization, recent diversion reduction).
* Explain motivations for scheme (Australia's part in a joint Commonwealth Atomic Bomb project, ect.)
There's nothing wrong with compiling lists of missing stuff, but that sort of thing does not really belong in the article itself -- Ferkelparade π 09:34, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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message: With regards to the increased water flows down the Murray, I believe that South Australia was instrumental in getting this through. Alphax τεχ 09:34, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water flows in SA 

message: I have a source (Angus & Robertson concise Australian encyclopeadia, , which says that the Snowy Mountains Scheme was finished in 1972 at a cost of #810,000,00 - but the article says it was finished in 1974 at a cost of $1bn. Cite your source - I think it's a bit convenient that it took exactly 25 years! Alphax τεχ 30 June 2005 07:12 (UTC)
* An anon editor just changed the cost from Austrlain $1 billion to US$1bn.  I have reverted but I have no source either way.  A press release from June 2004 by the Deputy PM states that the scheme "was $6 billion in today's money". .  This reference from an address to the Australian Acadamy of Technological Sciences and Engineering in 1999 by its then president who had been Assistant to Commissioner of the Snowy Mountains Hydro-Electric Authority, states its cost  as $800 million which is equivalent to $6 billion in todays dollars. The scheme was built over 25 years from 1949 to 1974.  It isn't a bit convenient it took 25 years, that is how long it took. --User:AYArktos |  Talk 10:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost and completion 

message: Should mention recent unsuccessful attempt to sell the scheme off--Golden Wattle  talk 10:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sell off 

message: Stuff like this seems to be biased "It is clear that the Snowy Scheme must be placed under a National Independent Water Manager. The Snowy River is dying." Drunken Pirate (talk) 04:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: There seems to be no mention either here or in the Snowy Hydro article about this rather important figure in the history of the scheme.  --  JackofOz (talk) 22:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And there ought to be! There's a good article about him on The ANU website, which I stumbled on when I was looking for information on "Snowy River Roll". My question is - should he be a short note here, or his own article with a link? Reynardo (talk) 04:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sir William Hudson

message: Why is it emphasized in the first paragraph??? There were migrants from over 30 different countries working there, many from Northern Europe with much better professional education, qualifications and experience than some guys from Greece or Italy who were mostly labourers from poor, underdeveloped regions of Italy or Greece and were used to lift heavy stuff during the scheme... Please change it and put emphasis on all migrants in the first paragraph.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.129.10.10 (talk) 05:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midditerrenean migrants??? 

message: It is a fact that a majority of the migrants who were building the scheme were Bosniaks from Bosnia and Herzegovina. A large population of these were recruited from the poor working conditions of their home country and enticed to come and work in Australia. This needs to be addressed in the article as there is no mention of it currently. Jas315 (talk) 12:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosniak migrants from Bosnia and Herzegovina were the largest group of the migrants who helped build the scheme 

message: As this is an australian article I suggest just using metric. CamV8 (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: could we stick to imperial MOS:UNITS ? Dave Rave (talk) 05:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

text: @CamV8 I would also  suggest not using units like "gigalitres". Cubic kilometres or cubic metres are appropriate. 84.215.194.30 (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do the water volume units need to be in metric, imperial and US?  

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message: Sadly I don'thave the details here, but the SMS used a number of innovative approaches to all sorts of things during its construction. Perhaps the most "important" of these is that all vehicles driven on all parts of the scheme were required to be fitted with seatbelts for driver and front seat passenger, and that these seatbelts were required to be used. And this was spectacularly successful! Whilst the number of car crashes were about the same on this project was about the same as for comparable size projects around teh world, the number of deaths and injuries caused by these crashes were vastly lower. Based on and encouraged by this data, NSW and Victorian governments legislated for mandatory seat belt use in their states.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.34.139 (talk) 05:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Innovation 

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message: I was looking for references on cost-benefit analyses applied to the scheme (there's a throw-away line in the ABC TV comedy Utopia suggesting that it was a boondoggle), and while I haven't found anything, I did find one newspaper article claiming that the scheme's financial arrangements benefited Victoria and New South Wales to the detriment of other states: https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/stand-by-for-another-snowy-hydro-scheme-ripoff-20170512-gw3982.html
If anyone else has sources confirming this, it would be good to add a section to this article about the finances of the scheme more generally. Robert Merkel (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  contractual arrangements