Talk:Half Dome

message: I revised the text to indicate their are routes on other faces.  - Ratagonia
actually there are at least 3 ways to climb half dome; there is an approach up the southwest face called "snake dike".   see http://www.supertopo.com/rockclimbing/route.html?r=yohasnak
There are over 22 rock-climbing routes up Half Dome, including Snake Dike (which is a fine climb). Ratagonia 04:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many routes? 

message: Given its short length, doesn't it seem that 8 photos are too much for this article? How do people feel about creating a page for Half Dome over at Commons, moving the photos (except for the infobox one) over there, and then providing a link to that page? -- hike395 04:56, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Or too little text?  There's quite a few nice photos, and not much text.  If people want to add more (relevant) text, it would be great.  Ratagonia 23:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that I moved the photos over to Commons back in July. More photos have crept in since. hike395 22:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many photos? 

message: The article has a red link to "Tenaya Glacier"; would be nice to mention when it's estimated that Half Dome fractured.  Was this 40,000 or 400,000 years ago?  Tempshill 18:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was Half Dome formed? 

message: The mountain peak was used as inspiration to Sierra Entertainment's logo. Shandris 22:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The logo is very stylized these days, removing the distinctiveness of it being Half Dome.  (Sort of like how the Pizza Hut logo is now slanted relative to its original appearance)  If you look back at the logo in the 80s and early 90s, you'll clearly see that it's Half Dome.  Not to mention that they used to manufacture disks with a photo of Half Dome on the label and the creators of the Space Quest series once posed in front of it with a mention of how they were standing in front of the mountain used as the logo.  See http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/ATMachine/SQ1VGA/sq4vga10z.png for an example of the logo from an early 90's Sierra game.  72.192.237.134 01:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sierra logo 

message: I think the phrase "turned back from intimidation" over "turned back due to fear" is a bit more accurate, to reflect the implicit risk.  I did the hike a few days ago and a person fell to their death the previous day (Nov 8th).  I also disagree that gloves would be recommended.
I cannot find any reference in the newpapers (via google) or on the NPS Morning Report for a fatality off Half Dome.  You sure?  I have never heard of a death on the cable route.  Have heard of people getting hit by lightening on top (no big surprise).  Source?  Ratagonia 20:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danger 

message: A recommendation requires a citation.  Anyone have a citation.  I am rather sure that the NPS does not provide gloves, so I took out the reference to gloves at the base of the cable route.  In general, some citations in this article would start to bring it up to wiki standards.  Ratagonia 17:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The recommendation to use gloves is widespread, so I'm sure we can find a source. The pile of gloves at the base is most likely provided by hikers themselves, but its existence is factual. Whterht we can find a reliable source for it is unknown. -<B> ·:·</B> Will Beback  ·:·  20:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job finding a source for the pile of gloves.  I changes that to "sometimes", as "usually" might be too optimistic, and is not supported by the source.  A recommendation from the NPS would be best, but from a reputable guidebook or guide web page would also work.  Ratagonia 05:26, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Using Google I found dozens of sites which mention the gloves, but most were forums or self-published sites. While Salon isn't known for its coverage of the Sierra Nevada, it's generally reliable. Certainly the more sources we can bring in the better. -<B> ·:·</B> Will Beback  ·:·  05:50, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  http://www.yosemite.org/newsroom/clips2006/september/092006.html implies the gloves are consistently there, and among every hiker I've talked to, there's never been a situation where the gloves haven't been there, even when the cables are down early in the season (there was a quite sizable pile this past weekend). Also, technically speaking, when the cables are down you're not allowed to climb.. I don't know if this should be included or not, but I believe it is posted somewhere along the trail. There have also been two recent deaths on the cables, I think when they were down. It was in a local-ish paper... maybe Modesto? 128.12.82.99 19:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - added citation to the actual article in the Fresno Bee, rather than the copy on Yosemite.org. Fresno Bee being a better source than Salon, in regard to Yosemite. Ratagonia 02:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gloves recommended?

message: I removed all edits by Jpowell2, since they were primarily generic hiking advice. I believe the fountain below vernal falls is the last place for water, but I don't have a citation - I moved that bit further up from where it was at the end, but if someone could cite it that would be great. The bit about the trailhead could be interesting, but I couldn't really follow it, and it was run together with other inappropriate material. 71.232.45.29 22:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Advice Edits

message: First of all, the current source (7) for the number of deaths claim is unavailable. The current Wiki article states that:
*"From 1971 through August 2007, there have been nine fatal falls from the cables, three in 2007..."
The "9 fatal, 3 in 2007" claim is strangely similar to (but inconsistent with) the claim made here:
*"Since 1971 there have been nine falls, including Nohara, but only three of them were fatal, all within the past year."
There seems to be some confusion as to the correct number. A third figure is given on this page. The page mentions a book, "Off the Wall:  Death in Yosemite", which apparently documents all deaths in Yosemite. I don't have access to this book, but if someone does they should use it as a reference. If nothing authoritative is found soon, I suggest we remove the death claims.Matt Gerber (talk) 23:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the Farrabee book, and it states that there have been three cable fall deaths within its scope (through 2006). I remember when the Mercury News article came out, and confirmed with the Yosemite public affairs rep at the time that the Mercury article was incorrect. I will edit the article accordingly, citing Farrabee. BoKu (|talk) 06:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

text: According to Farabee and Ghiglieri, the cable deaths through 2006 were:
* Paul H. Garinger, 1948
* Michael W. Gerde, 1995
* Emily Sandall, 2006
Those plus the ones in 2007 and 2009 total five. BoKu (talk) 06:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we count falls from climbers up the face itself? this recent death happened, but not on the cables.(mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 19:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of deaths:  conflicting/missing sources 

message: The page is out of date. It lacks the Lowe Bros (Greg and Jeff) winter ascent of the NW face route. The page also lack citation of the ski descent of the NE side "cable" route. 171.66.170.117 (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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replies: text: I would make those changes if I had access to the references in the American Alpine Journal for when, but that was decades ago, and I heard and saw their cousin George's slide show before he did bigger things. I forgot where I read about the ski descent, but I happened to be flying over it in a small plane after it happened. However, some wikipedia editors are starting to get dogmatic (some of them non-climbers and in the Commonwealth (you can tell by their spelling)). The page should also probably have some mention of base jumping (now prohibited) and hang gliding (also prohibited, but I think Lloyd Price hauled a hang glider up there. 143.232.210.150 (talk) 00:15, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lacks winter ascents and descents 

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thread_title:  [[:File:Half Dome from Glacier Point, Yosemite NP - Diliff.jpg]] to appear as POTD 

message: Not a particularly important issue, but "Yosemite's Half Dome Rock Just Got Harder to Climb" may be of interest. 220 of Borg 09:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Here's another source, "Half Dome Rockfall", with grades and topos. Akseli9 (talk) 10:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source 

message: Substituted at 17:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Wondering why the first solo ascent of Half Dome is not mentioned? This occured in 1966, by Eric Beck, who still lives in Bishop, CA. I know this, because I know Eric Beck. Also, there have been talks by him at the CA Mountaineering Club, and at least one article written about this.
(I'm new here; please be gentle!)
Suz55tbird (talk) 04:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  First solo ascent