Talk:Relief Line (Toronto)

message: The article currently describes the Ontario Line as "formerly the Downtown Relief Line", even though it would not share the same route, or rolling stock as the DRL, and the Doug Ford government seems to have explicitly said it is not an adaptation of the DRL.  Geo Swan (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The government may position this as they like, but the route is substantially the same (particularly the core Queen to Pape section, and the northern terminus at Science Centre) and would fulfill the same role in the transit network. I believe you'll find the press also considering it the RL's successor. Radagast (talk) 21:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I find reliable sources to be SPLIT on whether the line is a replacement or a revision to the existing plans for the Relief Line.  So, how many RS did you look at before you predicted I would find all the RS agreed with your personal opinion?  Geo Swan (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

text: I agree with Nfitz.  The Ontario Line is the successor of the Relief Line (I also support the merger of Eglinton West Subway with Line 5 Eglinton).  Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It was all hashed out in the section below. —Joeyconnick (talk) 19:12, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That discussion seems to not fully consider having two separate articles for the same line. It seems there's some confusion there, with claims that this was a new line, when it's quite clear from the documents that have been released, that most of the station locations are essentially unchanged, and it's primarily extending the existing project further north and west. There needs to be only one article about this line, not two. The other article should be redirected. Nfitz (talk) 22:44, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly agree.  Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

text: Based on the city report about the Ontario/Relief Line and the media reports, it's pretty clear it's the same project, even including the planned Relief Line North to Eglinton. Basically the Relief Line, with an extension to the southwest. I see no reason not to merge these two articles. Does anyone any longer have any objection, given it's clearly one project, not two. Nfitz (talk) 02:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

text: I suggest you propose a merge and let people comment, given such a merger/replacement was literally undone less than two months ago. As  pointed out then, there's a huge potential to lose valuable historical information if the merger is done with an overly WP:RECENTISM focus. The "classic" Relief Line proposal, or something like it, has been called the (Downtown) Relief Line for literally years. The purported "Ontario Line" (which definitely shows no particularly greater chance of being built despite all the flash of its recent announcement) has existed for around two months. If we move to having a single article, it ought to remain at Relief Line (Toronto) with a  called "Ontario Line" to cover the (extremely more) recent developments. —Joeyconnick (talk) 05:28, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Though I expect the whole thing would get sidetracked about what to call it. With the current naming, I suspect that one day we'll all agree that there'll be a single article (or perhaps an article with sub-articles) at Line 3 Ontario (perhaps with the only remaining link to Ontario being that the proposed Sherbourne/Queen station has a secondary entrance near Ontario Street - LOL!). In the interest of WP:NORUSH I've got no great desire to trigger this discussion quickly. Nfitz (talk) 16:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Ontario Line NOT the former DRL...

message: Why is the talk page for Ontario Line a redirect here? Is there a technical reason or rule why there is not a separate talk page? Alaney2k (talk) 16:13, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad move! Bad Edit! People don't know what they are doing. I've fixed the redirect. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks Alaney2k (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Much better.  Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:11, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
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