Talk:List of Star Trek characters

message: B'Etor is a main character? Ayala is a main character?
What the heck??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.16.126.55 (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Who compiled this list?

message: It has been proposed that this page be split apart, such as per series and movies.
* Partially oppose. On the one hand it's nice to have one place that lists all the characters, and even as knowledgeable about Trek as I am, I do occasionally get characters from different series mixed up, and some of the characters have appeared in more than one series (most notably O'Brien and later Worf, but don't forget about Lwaxana Troi, Kang, etc.) On the other hand, this article has gotten very big and is starting to become unmanageable. What I propose is that we make sure all the information here is duplicated at the appropriate list of TOS chars, list of TNG chars, etc., then we whittle this list down to just name, series and (for recurring characters only) episodes appeared in. ShutterBugTrekker 23:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Split apart proposal

message: Anton Mravcek did slightly more than copy the list of secondary and tertiary characters I had on my user page, but I don't know if he's aware that my list is incomplete. It lacks all the important recurring characters from Star Trek: Enterprise, and it's still missing characters from the previous series.
I don't know about the TOC, maybe this page should have the TOC hidden by default. ShutterBugTrekker 20:33, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Remarks to copy to talk archive

message: "Random paging" and found Sonak.  I  don't know enough about Star Trek to know what to do with this.  This article is very lonely and could use some TLC. Thank you. Soundguy99 02:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure he deserves his own article, but I did a little formatting and added it to the list anyway. Robert Happelberg 23:50, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found an orphaned ST character page 

message: The DS9 episode "Statistical Probabilities" introduces four genetically engineered individuals who unlike Bashir don't lead normal lives. They are Jack, Lauren, Patrick and Sarina. Is there a canon source establishing their last names? ShutterBugTrekker 8 July 2005 21:47 (UTC)
:No, they were only listed by their first names, even production notes don't give a "trustable canon" name, except for Sarina, who is given the full name of Sarina Douglas in their second appearence. But any other last names found would be fanmade. - AJHalliwell 04:33, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I'll add Sarina Douglas to the list if she's not already there. ShutterBugTrekker 20:53, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Loews's mutants 

message: I have noticed in all of the character bios for both Laforge and Riker they both attended and graduated from Starfleet Academy at the same time 2353-2357, yet their characters never seem to refer to the fact that they knew each other or even of each other at the Academy.  In the episode The Tin Man Riker is talking to Laforge about an incident where some of his classmates were killed which seems to denote that they where not at the Academy at the same time. I saw for the first time that in some Star Trek novels there is mention that Riker and Laforge were freinds at the academy.  I know this is a very small and trivial part of the Star Trek cannon.
: There are 100s or 1000s of students at Starfleet Academy so they wouldn't likely know every other student in the same year. Did you know everyone at your school/college/university? I certainly didn't :) Marky1981 00:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Riker and Laforge Bios 

message: It might be nicer to display characters rank insignia with caption.  --Cat out 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank insignias. 

message: I noticed that there is no section on minor/recurring characters in TOS, and as far as I could tell, no list of such characters on wikipedia at all.  I think that a section here or a stand alone list would be usefull; especially as a merge target for characters that are not notable enough on there own but should be mentioned somewhere like Vincent DeSalle.  I've thrown together a quick table in my userspace at User:Eluchil404/Test or permalink  and would link comments before adding it to the page.  Eluchil404 08:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOS minor characters 

message: If no one objects I shall add missing TNG character images.
They are pretty lo-fi, tho, i have TNG in 512x384 video.
It shouldn't be hard to update them with better, when such happen to apper.
EdwardHades 20:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lo-fi images 

message: I removed the clean up message because no reason was given here. The page looks neat as of today. If anything, clean up has already occurred and probably gone too far. As I remember this page, it was pretty close to being a fairly comprehensive and enlightening list. Robert Happelberg 15:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why clean up? 

message: Is there a particular reason why the alphabetical list of characters was deleted on 28 November 2006? Has it been moved elsewhere? Marky1981 20:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alphabetical_List_of_Star_Trek_Characters --EEMeltonIV 21:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, I didn't mean the separate "Alphabetical List of Star Trek Characters", but the list that was deleted from this article. Marky1981 21:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted list of characters 

message: I only checked a couple of these images but I suspect most or all of these images violate fair use because their image description page does not specify the rationale for their use on this page. Remember, EACH USE must have rationale — see Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline. RedWolf 16:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images do not comply with fair use 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ishka.jpg

message: Folks,
* You may wish to split the article up by series / movie, or some other division.
* You may wish to cut down severely on some of the fictional biography for minor characters. Almost all of it is redundant with the episode articles in which they appear; because they only appear in a few episodes (maybe only one), there is not really much "coherent thread" worth preserving that is separate from the episodes.
My motivating example is Tomalak - [ this] is what it looked like before AfD. Perhaps this is not representative, in which case never mind. 
Regards, --Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 13:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too bloody big 

message: For the record, I oppose the merger of Sela. Any other thoughts? Robert Happelberg 23:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * As it happens, I already did the merge, and Robert only reverted the redirect, which means I've already included here all the information that I intended to. The rest I felt was redundant. As for a separation, I've affixed a . --Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 16:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of Sela 

message: I want to know where are the characters of the "Deep Space Nine" ?
In the page has the actors/characters of other series and I missed that it hasn't the DS9 !!! 
Thanks
eortolan@uol.com.br  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.0.122.192 (talk) 18:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where are the Characters of the "Deep Space Nine" ? 

message: The List of minor and major recurring characters in Star Trek: The Original Series article seems to exist solely to address some very minor characters who don't seem to be of any notability outside the episodes and few lines of dialogue they provide. I propose that they be merged here to their respective alphabetic sections of the character lists, where a link to their Memory Alpha pages will suffice for more in-universe information. Alastairward (talk) 00:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *Boredom trumped sloth. I've carried out the merge. --EEMIV (talk) 16:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

text: They are not at all culturally significant; they have nothing approaching even minor significance *within* the show, and matter not-at-all to the real world. Consider the merge a WP:BOLD. --EEMIV (talk) 17:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I think the redirect was actually a good idea, and so I've restored it. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And I'll restore it again. An appropriately short blurb about this extremely minor characters was, in fact, merged to their respective alphabetical list. --EEMIV (talk) 1:29 pm, Today (UTC−4)
No problem again . Re-writing based on original script and new page name Bryankreutz 77 12:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: This was listed as a TNG char as played by Clyde Kusatsu. If anyone has any information, could you redirect that link to where the character is described? Right now there's a red link on Nakamura (surname)#Fictional characters. Thanks for those who may know. Tyciol (talk) 04:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Admiral Nakamura]]

message: If I could find it (assuming there is one), I'd add the lists of characters from the movies to the "see also" and to the list of lists of Star Trek Characters.Originalname37 (Talk?) 18:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List(s) of Characters in Star Trek Movies 

message: Why do neither this page or any of the alphabetical listing pages no longer contain any pictures of the characters? Because of copyright reasons? If so, then shouldn't the entire picture columns be removed? JIP | Talk 21:05, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a meta-discussion a while ago that largely concluded non-free images in lists like this are "decorative," hence violating WP:NFCC. The "picture" column should be removed if it still has that header, but the column itself has been retained (at least on a lot of the alphabetical sub-pages) because the present of a two-row black line helps "unify"each entry, which is composed of two lines of information. (Sorry, I imagine this second part isn't especially clear; and, I confess I'm writing it without going to the onerous trouble of actually opening the list :-/). --EEMIV (talk) 21:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Do we have a standard for alphabetizing non-alphabetic characters? For example: does K'Ehleyr go before names starting "Ka" or is the apostrophe ignored? --Khajidha (talk) 23:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabetical 

message: sorry if I've missed something, but what do the colours in the alphabetical list mean?  90.193.159.73 (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If you missed something, then so did I. Considering it's been over a month without an answer to that question, perhaps we should set the colors to something consistent, that those of us with colorblindness can make sense of. --Rob Kelk 21:01, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  alphabetical list - colours 

message: I've just made an edit to turn the main table into a sortable table. I believe this is a minor change which greatly increases the usefulness of this article; it can be very helpful to 'filter' the table by species or position, for example, when one is trying to identify a forgotten character. It may increase usefulness further if the 'Appearances' column were either reformatted to list the series initial-ism first, to allow sorting on that variable as well, or, as some characters appear in multiple series, perhaps a separate column for each series, such as in the sample below. I will however hold off on this change and ask others to weigh in on its usefulness. Perhaps some think it makes the table unnecessarily wide?
Walkersam (talk) 04:48, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sortable table 

message: Shouldn't the characters from Trials and Tribble-ations be listed as such? Some of them are certainly necessary to understand this episode, and from the audience point of view they are certainly characters there. 109.186.46.16 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 11:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trials and Tribble-ations characters 

message: Please, stop duplicating  tables. All of them can be transcluded from main articles. And there is no need for duplicating characters in the table (TOS). Two rows for characters is good. An why are you adding titles of series in Main an Reccuring cast sections of table (like this: Star Trek: The Next Generation Main Cast), it's absolutely unnecessary. Lado85 (talk) 08:24, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:BSCD128|BSCD128]]

message: The "shared cast" table is pretty cool, but it's also huge and there's a lot of characters in it. Some of them are minor characters or guest stars who appeared in multiple series but never in a substantial number of episodes, such as Daniel Dale as Moriarty (2 episodes of TNG and a cameo in one episode of Picard) or Bruce Maddox (1 episode each of TNG and Picard, played by different actors). 
I think those criteria for inclusion are much too broad, and there are many other characters who could or should be included in the big grid by those standards but aren't: for example, Charlie Brill as Arne Darvin (1 episode of TOS and 1 of DS9); Barbara March as Lursa (3 episodes of TNG and 1 of DS9); Richard Poe as Evek (3 episodes of DS9, 2 of TNG, and one of Voyager).
I propose restricting the "shared cast" table to actors who appeared in either regular or at least major recurring roles on one or more series, rather than just including every actor or character who ever made an appearance on more than one Star Trek series, no matter how small. We could have the big table for major cast members, and then perhaps a small text paragraph saying "and there are also many guest actors who reprised roles across multiple series, such as" and then one or two representative examples. Thoughts? AJD (talk) 16:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Having seen no objections, I've trimmed some minor guest characters, condensed some unnecessary rows, corrected some errors (Alice Krige never appeared on TNG), and tried to mark uses of audio-only archive material as such. AJD (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards for inclusion in "shared cast" table?