Talk:Johnny Bright incident

message: I'm trying to edit for content as well, and there are a few terms which aren't clear to me (as a non-football fan). 
Could you provide a link to the actual football team which played on that day for Oklahoma University? The link as it stands links only to the university.
I have similar problems with some of the football-specific terms, which I'm trying to find links for (I'm not very good at doing links, sorry).
PlainJane 07:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PlainJane, no worries!  The name of the Oklahoma team/university that played Drake back in 1951 was Oklahoma A&M in Stillwater, Oklahoma.  The school was later renamed Oklahoma State University.  The A&M link to the Oklahoma State link is a re-direct. Sundevilesq 19:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football terminology 

message: Having read through the resources listed at the end of this article, this article is not referencing its sources apropriately - when quotes are taken from other sources they should be attributed as such in the body of the article. It otherwise constitutes plagiarism. PlainJane 01:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, I must disagree.  There are two direct quotes, the 1951 Bob Spiegel Des Moines Register piece, and the 1980 Des Moines Register interview of Bright.  Both are referenced in the body of this article.  No other parts of this article are duplicated exactly or copied verbatim from other sources.  I object to the implication that there is ANY "plagiarism" in this article, but the excessive linking criticism is well taken.  Sundevilesq 06:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Footnotes to the Pulitzer prize-winning photo sequence added, as well as footnotes to the 2 direct quotes that appeared in the referenced, 1980 Des Moines Register article (see Sources).  Please note that the quotes from the 1951 Bob Spiegel article are referenced in the 1980 article.  Sundevilesq 13:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: References with footnotes added.  Sundevilesq 04:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referencing 

message: Is this incident really similar enough to the Jack Trice matter to be included as a main part of the article? Both issues were racially motivated and both involved Iowa-based college football teams, but Trice actually died during the game where Bright was just injured.  I hate to call it "trivial" (because it wasn't), but maybe it should be in a Trivia (or better named) section located at the end of the article. Thoughts? Sundevilesq 19:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack Trice reference 

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message: The caption for the photo-sequence describes it as being of the "first hit."
The article purports that "...Bright was knocked unconscious three times by blows from Oklahoma A&M defensive tackle Wilbanks Smith. While Smith's final elbow blow broke Bright's jaw..." It then states that the photo sequence in question  "...clearly showed Smith's jaw-breaking blow..."
So does the 6-shot photo sequence used in the article really show the first hit as the caption denotes, or does it show Smith's final blow that broke Smith's jaw?
Text revisions are needed to resolve this apparent discrepancy. ShoneBrooks (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the original cited article from the Des Moines Register: page 1, page 2. It states that Bright's jaw was broken on his very first play of the game, which is depicted in the sequence of 6 photos. He played several more plays before leaving the game in a "woozy" state. In total, it says he was "laid out" three times. There's nothing in the article that says he was "knocked unconscious" or that his jaw was broken on the "final" elbow blow. Toohool (talk) 17:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have revised the article text in an attempt to better align it to the facts presented in the referenced newspaper article. Unless objections to those edits arise, I'll mark this issue as resolved. ShoneBrooks (talk) 14:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo's Caption Deviates from Description in Article