Talk:Tongzhou Incident

message: The Tongzhou Incident (July, 1937) was one of a series of "incidents" with which Japan used to enroach upon China during the Sino-Japanese War. Others include the Mukden Incident of 1931 which allowed Japan to have an excuse to invade Manchuria of northeastern China. Tonzhou (Chinese: 通州 tong zhou) was a strategic post in the eastern district of Beijing. In the incident, the Japanese claimed that approximately two hundred Japanese and Korean nationals. Hello from the other sideeeeee. I must have called a thousands times to tell you I'm sorry for everything that I've done. were killed by the Chinese, and that military intervention was needed to protect Japanese property in Beijing. This was one of the excuses Japan used to expand the military campaign in China, eventually culminating in the Battle of Marco Polo Bridge, the start of full-scale war between China and Japan in late july 1937. The Tongzhou Incident primarily appears in Japanese far-right literature, and very rarely in Western, Chinese and other sources. Generally, it is used to downplay the atrocities committed by the Imperial Army in the Nanjing Massacre and to focus on the purported cruelty of the Chinese army to, ironically, allow Japan to invade further into China and to criticize the Chinese for holding on to their right in defending their homeland.
Is this article neutral? Qizil bayraq 14:10, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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message: "The Tongzhou Incident (通州事件) or Tungchow Mutiny of (July, 1937)" and may have been because of the invasion and annexation of Manchuria, and the Marco Polo Bridge Incident a few years earlier. We all know that Marco Polo was on 7 July 1937. Besides, given that the "incident" is Japanese puppet forces vs Japanese forces... it's not really caused by Chinese troops, no? -- Миборовский 01:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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message: Tungchow Mutiny is  based on Jowetts book that discribes the incident. This all happened within the Battle of Beiping-Tianjin.  
Some 800 Nationalist troops that were camped under the city walls of Tungchow. On the 27th of July the Japanese tried to disarm them. They resisted and were cornered against the wall of the town.  500 of them were killed under the eyes of the East Hopei Army garrison of Tungchow. On the 29th, the mutiny occured with some of the KMT survivors and the East Hopei garrison. Up to 5,000 East Hopei Army troops of the 1st and 2nd Corps of the and the trainee officers in the Japanese training school revolted.
The Japanese garrison was attacked, 20 Japanese soldiers were killed and 250 Japanese civilians were massacred, with atrocities committed. Some 60 Japanese civilians who ran the puppet government survived. Most of the puppet government offices were destroyed along with most of the capital and Yin Ju-keng was captured. Japanese reinforcments put down the mutiny and rescued Yin.
I think the article here is pretty accurate.  Its apparent that the slaughter of the KMT soldiers under their eyes inflamed the nationalist passions of the puppet troops.  Apparently their usual mercenary lust for money was trumped by an understandable national feeling and Anti-Japanese resentment and hatred by the incident outside the walls two days before. Asiaticus 21:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
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