Talk:Wassail

message: A version of this is drank around Halloween and Christmas in east Texas and Louisiana.  It is made by melting red hots into (non alcoholic) Apple cider. 107.77.168.42 (talk) 00:14, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: This drink has nothing to do with german cuisine. Reading This articleIt seems to be of germanic origin and a brtish christmas tradition but is nothing german at all.
I am going to remove the link to the list german cuisine again.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.145.242.211 (talk) 21:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [german Cuisine] 

message: Ok As far as I know, "Wassailing" is the equivalent of going carol singing in christian tradition. Pagans also used to sing carols and these were adapted by christians. They tend to be about food drink and dancing naked, having sex etc. Lots of fun. Can anyone confirm? If not I'll just have to ask this guy Tim from Glastonbury who tries to restore christianised carols. It's also the apple/health thing...
:Yes, tis true.  Wassailing was a form of caroling where the performers expected to be treated to a warm pie of any sorts ;)  No independant evidence, and no I wasn't alive then.  I did medeivel recreationism for a time, and enjoyed wassailin even tho I didn't get anything.  The only songs we did sing were for a family inclined audience tho, so I dont know about the lewd stuff, but yes, food, drink dancing, fun, whatnot...  Joe I 22:13, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lewd songs have been sung in celebration of multiple holidays by many groups for ages, so to designate some just used in the winter holiday season by a certain group of people (although "pagan" has so many definitions) is kind of hard. As far as the carols, a lot of Christmas carols are orginally Christian (there are wiki articles on this), and a lot of plain-out carols like Jingle Bells are young, nonpartisan songs. However, it's pretty easy to find neopagan versions of them, like here:  I wouldn't say this is "restoring" but hey. --Teddywithfangs 06:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, of course. We know precious little about ACTUAL pre-Christian customs of northern Europe, due to the lack of written records from those cultures. Any modern attempt to "reconstruct" ancient pagan carols is purely speculative. 65.213.77.129 (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Caroling and Pagans

message: Can someone put a picture of Wassail on here? Bdodo1992 (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: I don't think it's "Russian tea" but rather "rush'n tea," because the recipe involves a kind of spice powder that makes it a sort of instant drink -- one that can be made in a rush.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.146.136 (talk) 03:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rushing with Russian Tea [sic] 

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message: The first paragraph of 'Wassail as a Beverage' appears to be inconsistent:
It says 'Historically, the drink was a mulled cider' but proceeds to say 'While the beverage typically served as "wassail" at modern holiday feasts with a medieval theme most closely resembles mulled cider, historical wassail drinks were completely different, more likely to be mulled beer or mead.'
Could someone who knows more about this than me confirm which of these sentences are correct and ammend the paragraph accordingly?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.209.6.40 (talk) 17:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistent Paragraph 

message: I think "wassail" is more than the drink.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, it's a verb, wassailing, involving singing and seasonal carrying on. Kortoso  (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drink? 

message: It's either one or the other. Different recipes vary, so I would suggest an "or" in there somewhere. Kortoso  (talk) 17:12, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "mead – ale"? 

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message: There has been blackface used to reference wassailing. Without the proper context in the article and with no reference to blackface, the image or any image of blackface should be avoided. Even with reference, one should link to the wassailing page where a picture of blackface as it relates to wassailing would be more appropriate. Images of blackface should be avoided unless directly relevant and contextualized as they are racist imagery and offensive. Jwayne33 (talk) 18:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it's important to remember the article is very lucid wassailing's ancient origins. When a practice or custom is literally medieval, there is a much higher chance of it not being seen in favorable light today as opposed to one manufactured in modern era (but even then, compare the controversy of Baby It's Cold Outside). It is important to note that the image in question still happens even in Britain to this day, despite efforts especially in recent years and highlighted by media to quash it. Mostly in more rural locales and more among the less educated, etc., of course. But even if it were 100% absent, the context of wassailing's checkered and long-winded history that this particular sub-practice occurs also going back centuries is inherent. As I explained in my edit, quoting Warner Bros' disclaimer on some of their cartoons which contained offensive racial depictions and the like (as opposed to deleting them in damnatio memoriae): "because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed". This is hardly the first Yuletide tradition which most would say did not age well; many would in fact claim that this article promotes unhealthy romanticism or rose-colored glasses without context like this.--~Sıgehelmus♗(Tøk) 04:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The use of blackface images for Wassailing