Talk:National Resident Matching Program

message: NRMP website defines participants as US senoirs at an "allopathic" medical school. Indepedents are formers grads of allopathic schools, oseopathic grads, FMG, Candians, etc.  Straight off their website.  Adjusting to include reference to allopathic students. User:OsteopathicFreak 66.82.9.59 02:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NRMP

message: I would like to see a section here, or perhaps another article, on how the residency matching process works. It's actually quite fascinating.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.95.237.87 (talk) 15:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be interesting, we need a graphic.  There's a pretty complete explination here, but its a little convoluted. Perhaps something simpler?  User:Hopping T  17:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How the match works 

message: This term is poorly understood, and has several meanings, including derogatory ones. I have replaced the term with MD or other, well understood and unambiguous, words where appropriate. I had no expectation that this would be controversial, and I'm sure they are good changes that the community will approve of. --221.202.40.78 (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allopathic 

message: I have removed the two pie charts as they were illegible without clicking on them, and they contained the term "allopathic" which is not neutral (see above). I ask Hopping or someone else to redo them without that term, make them legible, and then bring them here for discussion (do they actually add anything to this article?).
I also do not understand the relevance phrase to an encyclopaedia: "The median USMLE Step 1 scores for graduates of U.S. Medical Schools for various residencies are charted in Figure 4 on page 11 of Charting Outcomes in the Match." It also seems to break WP linking rules.
Also, the article seems to assume the reader is generally familiar with what is being discussed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.77.150.176 (talk) 16:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank for increasing the size of the images. I have moved them to the right so as not to break the flow of the article. However, the use of the term allopathy over more suitable and less controversial alternatives has still not been justified. --SesquipedalianVerbiage (talk) 19:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The section labels in the chart are justified by WP:RS, WP:V, WP:CITE.  The article is about the NRMP.  This is the classification system that the NRMP uses for all applicants.  NRMP website  The labels have been lifted, verbatim, from the NRMP reports. Here is the link for the 2008 final report.  Bryan Hopping T  21:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images and Copyedit 

message: I'll readily admit that my revision increased the detail of the relevant section of the article and the specificity of that section's language -- but even to the extent that that's a bad thing, my revision was a major improvement to the half-unintelligible, other-half-ambiguous blather that was there before.
Likewise, I readily admit that my writing isn't above the universal law that there's always room for improvement -- but the fact that an improvement can itself be further improved doesn't justify throwing the baby out with the bathwater, especially when what was there before was almost all bathwater and little or no baby.
If you think my revision contains "too much extrapolation," how about further editing it to condense it and make it better, as opposed to just changing it back?
:165.176.7.3 (talk) 01:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your attempt to clarify the language.  I agree, your edit probably should not have been reverted so unceremoniously, however it did contain several technical inaccuracies.  For example, partners need not be matched to the same institution (you could use the couples match system to ensure the opposite, if you wanted).  I'm also not sure what it means to "[assume] that the matching algorithm accounts for all other factors", since we know that the only factors it makes any attempt to account for are the preference lists.  In any case, I've made an attempt to clarify the meaning while fixing the inaccuracies, which I hope you'll find more intelligible than my original language.  I don't really take issue with the speculation for why a hospital might find a "coupled" applicant more attractive, so I don't have a problem if you want to put that back in. mcs (talk) 02:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good explanation re: the paraphrase as having the program (do something like) match applicants individually and then have applicants "start at the top" of their own preference lists and turn down (or, rather, turn down on their behalf) matches until they reach a match that their respective partners have also reached.  Nicely done.  165.176.7.3 (talk) 22:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! mcs (talk) 07:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: edit 397747190 undoing edit 397588383 

message: Not sure how to phrase this,  but the section regarding the Scramble and SOAP is somewhat incorrect. The SOAP process occurs after the algorithm has been run, but before the release of the full results of the match (on Match Day), happening between Monday at noon and extending through Friday of Match Week (Match Day itself). Most of the SOAP offers and acceptances will actually occur before Match Day. The current wording makes it sound as if the SOAP process occurs after Match Day. 
I believe the same chronological issue applies to the Scramble.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.133.225.204 (talk) 18:22, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOAP 

message: How is there no description of the criticisms of this highly flawed system?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.28 (talk) 19:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's because no editor (such as yourself) has written well-sourced, critical content.  -- Scray (talk) 22:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critiques 

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message: Stable-marriage points here twice -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_marriage_problem#:~:text=hospitals/residents%20problem%20with%20couples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_marriage_problem#:~:text=hospitals/residents%20problem
and yet there's no actual description of this variant of the algorithm, which seems highly applicative,
especially given partial preference lists, which reduce the complexity from O(n^2) to O(V+E).
I'd like to see a CS-oriented section/entry:
  - Highlighting partial pref. lists
  - Describing how one-sided multi-match-capacity & couple-matching are handled
  - Discussing options for two-sided multi-match-capacity
192.114.105.254 (talk) 09:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section/entry specific for Stable-Marriage extensions stemming from NRMP 

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