Talk:Main Page/Archive 76

message: Should not the bust picture of Augustus be placed along with the relevant news item?
--Apnavana 03:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought those were Miss Puerto Rico's chiseled features.... Figma 04:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, Miss Puerto Rico would like to achieve world peace by defeating Mark Antony... But images on the Main Page must be free, as fair use is not permitted. --Dhartung | Talk 05:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Miss Puerto Rico needs more time in the sun.— BRIAN0918 • 2006-07-24 06:21
Same old complaints, no one seems to want to cure them... --Monotonehell 06:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: It's more like no one seems to know a simple way to cure them. -- 64.229.223.85 13:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's been attempts at solutions but they seem to always been objected to by folks claiming that there is no problem. XD --Monotonehell 15:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  So, no one knows any simple ways to cure the folks who can't see the problem. --64.229.228.122 05:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  lol --Monotonehell 19:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The photos are already removed, because that don't belong to the main page. Please read the Miss puerto rico article and post your concerns on her there. Wikipedians dislike people's comments on the news when you are (and they mean it) supposed to discuss the main page only. They seem strict and bossy, but we can't resist a bit in current events sense of humor.--Mike D 26 23:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bust picture of Augustus 

message: :Image:Floyd-landis-toctt.jpg has had its licensing changed to be compatible with Wikipedia. Perhaps it could make its way back onto the Main Page? That bust has been there for awhile. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I already replied to Tariq at Template talk:In the news. Just for the record, I put the image back on the front page a few hours ago. --Oldak Quill 18:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image? 

message: There is a red link in the Featured picture thing.  That should be removed.  It is standard policy to not have red links on the main page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.89.69.182 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was probably an unauthorized move, i.e. vandalism, since repaired. I couldn't see anything obvious in the histories of the wikilinks, though. --Dhartung | Talk 00:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was not vandalism - whover wrote the blurb screwed up and I had to fix it.   Raul654 04:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: surely someone should have looked at Main Page alternative (tomorrow) before it went up? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.89.69.182 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Surely someone like you, User:219.89.69.182, should have looked at that and then reported it at WP:ERRORS yesterday. --64.229.223.85 13:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think it's policy as such, but rather common sense for style. —Daniel (‽) 12:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Red link

message: :Image:Alphafstconvent.jpg is almost certainly not public domain, at least not under the current pd tag. It was taken in 1908 and thus even if the photographer died the day the photo was taken, "term of life plus 100 years" could not expire until 2008 at the earliest. Is there a free equivalent that could be used? savidan(talk) (e@) 00:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Death of the author has nothing to do with it (older images). Images published before 1923, which this image almost certainly was, are in the public domain. Raul654 00:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replaced the  tag with .  —David Levy 01:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just realized that  indicates that that the image was published before 1923 and the author died 50 or more years ago.  The latter might not be true, but I was unable to find a tag for images published before 1923 that doesn't also mention the author's death, nor could I locate a a special category.  Therefore, I created .  Feel free to correct the category or delete/redirect this template if it's redundant.  I'm not a copyright expert, so if there's some legal reason why this template is inappropriate, I consent to its immediate deletion.  —David Levy 01:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The tag you were after is . I've redirected for now since I'm not an admin. If any fancy deleting the redirect, feel free. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 02:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you!  Instead of deleting the redirect, I've categorized it for the benefit of users searching in vain for a template with "1923" in its name.  —David Levy 02:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alpha Phi Alpha image 

message: Perhaps "the 2006 Open Championship" should be changed to "the 2006 Open Championship". Seeing as, unlike the Tour de France, there isn't a separate article for each year's competition (as far as I know). The Glow Pt. 2 21:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Open championship is an annual sports event and you will find every year's event in its' article. To keep it relevant in discussing changes in today's main page, you can start a news bit on the Open championship and make sure you get the sources to describe it. Wikipedia main page is used for current events purposes, but must not perserverate on the news as it has featured subjects of the day and what's happening in Wikipedia. --Mike D 26 23:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The British Open news bit... 

message: One item says ...that Dorothy was the longest-running musical stage production ever until the 20th century, with an initial run of 931 performances?
Alright... the article says The revised Dorothy had an initial run of 931 performances, becoming the longest running musical production ever. Considering the revised Dorothy opened in late December 1896, just before 1897 and considering that the production that surpassed Dorothy, A Chinese Honeymoon, opened in 1902 (note the ~five year difference), that DYK item sounds a bit overstated. Additionally, the record probably was not broken in December 1896 (I'm guessing 1899, assuming a performance a day, but I don't have a source). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 02:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, DYK got updated and this item is no longer on MainPage. -- PFHLai 18:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DYK Overstatement 

message: July 26 was the day that the Kargil War officially ended and is celebrated as Vijay Diwas in India. No mention of it has been made in the "On this day" section. Considering that the article is a FA some admin must try to include in atleast now. --Idleguy 08:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. --64.229.204.225 13:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  We cannot make sure that every constituency's event is listed, unless we list them all, and there isn't room for that. It's better, in fact, to choose a slightly random selection every year. --Dhartung | Talk 18:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was no mention for Puerto Rico Constitution day and it falls on July 26. Whoever administers the "on this day" event hasn't been able to keep up, then we don't always know everything. I hope the Puerto Rico article link will clear up some things. --Mike D 26 23:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, Constitution Day in Puerto Rico was July 25, and it appeared on MainPage that day. -- PFHLai 14:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On this day... (July 26)

message: Hey, I'm new here (as a registered user) and so I just had to try out the different skin choices. I noticed that with the "chick" skin the search box and the "Go" and "Search" buttons do not align properly with the page. They block out some of the content. 
I'm not sure if this is the right page for bringing this up.
My resolution is 1280 x 1024, but I doubt that has anything to do with it. Can/should this be fixed?
Thanks.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by F16fan12 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 2006 July 26 (UTC).
: This talkpage is intended for discussion about the Main Page only. You may want to report the  problem to Wikipedia:Village pump. Hope this helps. -- PFHLai 18:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... the search box and the "Go" and "Search" buttons can be found on every page in Wikipedia. And it sounds like a technical question for the pump, really. Hope this helps. --PFHLai 16:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  formatting error with "chick" style 

message: There is an automatic complaint about the page being too long. Can someone decide where to archive to please. Jackiespeel 17:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The archives are near the top, next to the table of contents. --PFHLai 18:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Today's Wikipedia main page is much shorter than a month ago and honestly I disagree with your statement. The main page continues to get renovated and checked for its' length, so we're working on it. Any complaints and concerns on the page size, please take that to the archives where it is appreciated. --Mike D 26 23:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think Jackiespeel was referring to "Talk:Main Page", which was indeed very long on July 26th, and I archived some of the "stale" discussions that day. (Will do more after this edit.) Some older browsers can't handle the editing of long pages. Please see Wikipedia:Article size. --PFHLai 14:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page size

message: This is probably the wrong place to mention this, but I don't know where else to put it, so here goes: has anyone thought about making a Wikipedia home page? i.e., something like most major portals have, but based on Wikipedia? There could be a Google search, and the news section would be personalised to one's location, but otherwise it would be just the normal home page. This would be my ideal home page -- Wikipedia is already my home page, but this would be way better. Another person I mentioned it to thought it was a great idea; any thoughts? CMcQueeny 12:22, 26 July 2006 (CST)
: You can do (almost) anything you like on your user page. Happy editing. :-) --PFHLai 17:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For tips see Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. --Dhartung | Talk 18:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personalised Home Page? 

message: The United Nations is claiming that a UN observer post has been struck in the ongoing Middle East conflict, and Kofi Annan is thinking it was done on purpose. Surely, such a story deserves to be mentioned in the news.
:Yes it is mentioned in the news. I've seen 3 mentions of it this morning before breakfast. But this is an encyclopedia not wikinews. Items get a mention in the "In the news" section on the main page if and when there is a coresponding encyclopedic article updated with current events and it gets nominated for inclusion on the pages mentioned at the top of this talk page. Don't feel put out, lots of people make the same assumption and complain that such-and-such a news item isn't mentioned. Some of us are petitioning for a change to better reflect this. --Monotonehell 22:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: As of July 2006

message: why don't we put all the links of other language that remane , to the left side of the page ,like in the articles?It's empty now.--87.65.128.92 16:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the main problem is that that would take up most of the sidebar, and might cause problems at certain resolutions. There are rather alot of Wikipedias (229). Robmods 19:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The problem is that if you followed the usual interwiki rule you;d have to link to every equivalent page, which would mean a long string of 228 links, with nothing to differentiate between editions with hundreds of thousands of articles, and editions that haven;t even started and have nothing but a placeholder main page. You could alternatively do what you suggest and have only the top few, but that would be inconsistent with the familiar function of interwiki links in the sidebar and would grate with me, for one. Much better is to have a detailed breakdown in a box on the main page, although it looks as if some idiots (I bet you anything they'll be Americans) have emasculated the other languages box and we now only list Wikipedia's with more than 25,000 articles. In any case, having such a section on the main page is greatly prefereable to an undifferentiated mass, or an incomplete selection, in the sidebar. 86.136.2.158 01:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia languages 

message: I initially thought it said the 1200 year old prayer book had been "discovered in a blog in Ireland" and I scratched my head a little. John Riemann Soong 20:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Because he mentioned a blog, you should mod him down -1. Isn't that the way /. works? --Dhartung | Talk 05:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Don't start digging for artefacts there. :-) -- PFHLai 15:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  just a curious remark 

message: The choice of the Pokemon character is just too funny: Anyone read The Onion's cover story on Wikipedia this week?  "Wikipedia Celebrates 750 Years Of American Independence", specifically the quote: "[Wikipedia] site now boasts over 4,300,000 articles in multiple languages, over one-quarter of which are in English, including 11,000 concerning popular toys of the 1980s alone."  Well, sure this is from the 1990s, but I'm sure we're working on getting those numbers up to snuff!  ;-) --Bobak 15:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delicious coincidence

message: Somone decided to revert this page to obscene and offensive pictures.  I then erased it (not having edited wiki before I just cleared the offensive stuff.  Whomever accused me of vandalism this is why I did what I did —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.230.129 (talk • contribs) 
:I think the problem was that this edit by User:Joelr31 cleared out the vandalism just moments before you began your edit, which effectively erased the page. Just as anyone can contribute to an article (with some exceptions), anyone is encouraged to remove vandalism as in your April edit (at least it's the same IP address). But stuff on the main page gets reverted quickly, so just be careful. Blanking a page is an extreme last-resort form of protection. --Dhartung | Talk 02:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But thanks for your efforts.  violet/riga (t) 08:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obscene images 

message: While it's true that Alberto Fujimori became the president of Peru on July 28, so did Alejandro Toledo, Alan García, Fernando Belaúnde Terry (twice), Manuel A. Odría, and José Bustamante y Rivero. --Descendall 02:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In other words, it's the constitutional inauguration day for Peru, just as January 20 is in the U.S. It probably isn't the most important or interesting date of Fujimori's rule. --Dhartung | Talk 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Odd choice for On This Day

message: I don't think fair use images should be on the Main Page, so please remove the Bulbasaur image. TZMT (de:T) 17:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. If this is an abuse of fair use in normal circumstancs, what makes Bulbasaur different? Pacific Coast Highway (blah • I'm a hot toe picker) 22:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The policy is that if any free image exists, it goes on the front, no matter the quality. However, with Cheers, it was decided fair use images are okay in moderation.  --  Zanimum 17:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Pokemon game and animated series have an article in Wikipedia and one can move the bulbasaur image into the article. Fair use articles relate to educational value are allowed and the pokemon hobby is a well-renowned one familiar to most people in pop culture. I have no opposition to the bulbasaur image, but doesn't constitute a major subject of research in encyclopedias. Tomorrow, that image will be replaced with a new subject and at least I'm glad Wikipedia knows what's cool in the world. --Mike D 26 23:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulbasaur's image 

message: what's with the penis..... Sergio Á. 20:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, what the heck was that? --Fang Aili talk 20:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Penis images

message: I see a picture of someone masterbating.  I am sure this is not supposed to be on there.  An administrator should clean that up quick.  Mr. C.C. 20:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, it's gone now.  Was I the only one who saw it?  Mr. C.C. 20:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I saw that one and also one of an erect and flaccid penis before that.  How is that possible? --Kevs 20:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm wondering the same thing...--Sergio Á. 20:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Maybe we have a rogue admin? I'll check the history. --Draicone (talk) 09:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: What's going on? There are penises everywhere! No offense, but I don't want this to degenerate into a whole goatse.cx or tubgirl thing. Pacific Coast Highway (blah • I'm a hot toe picker) 20:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Flying hell. I can't do anything about it right now because I'm at work and can't risk it. The main page is protected; what's going on? --Fang Aili talk 20:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind seeing penises...i look for them...but not on the front page...now i can't risk being on the main page--Sergio Á. 20:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody found a loophole in the protection of the featured article. Anyone who adds a featured article to the main page needs to check that any templates it contains are also protected. This time, someone forgot to check. --Heron 20:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the answer. At least we know how it happened now. --Fang Aili talk 20:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here --Sergio Á. 20:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh yes, I forgot to say: the relevant page has now been protected. The loophole still exists, though. --Heron 21:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the 'loophole' is also known as "anyone can edit". The problem with this is that "anyone" also includes a lot of puerile jerks, but that's hardly news. dab (ᛏ) 21:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Maybe Sysadmin day should have been a lead story.
The worst form of Wikipedia vandalism is not tolerated and the penis scenes are not appropriate for younger users who may use wikipedia for school study or research. I'm glad administrators eradicated the penis scenes and let's make sure no other repeated incidents occur, because whoever is caught doing this in Wikipedia will pay the price. I never saw the scenes nor need to and the bulbasaur image would attract children to read the article. Keep out obscene and graphic images out of Wikipedia. --Mike D 26 22:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: No vandalism is tolerated, of course, and vandalism of this sort is dealt with swiftly.  But short of completely protecting articles while on the main page, or otherwise abandoning Wikipedia's mission of being open to editing by anyone, it will never be possible to guarantee against a repeat. The best we can hope is that effective patrolling reduces the incentive vandals have, becuase their handiwork is not displayed for very long. --Dhartung | Talk 23:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about subst:ing all templates in featured article blurbs? — ceejayoz talk 02:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really think that's a good idea because if you subst all the templates then when a non-vandal newbie tries to edit it all he gets is a pile of incoherent junk with no meaning whatsoever. And I think I would know how it feels when your parents are right behind you and a picture of a penis pops up on the screen. I'm 12. Some of you older editors might have forgotten, but I know. Fredil Yupigo 02:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Non-vandal newbies can't edit the featured article blurbs. I'm not talking about subst:ing in the article itself, just the excerpt that's going on the Main Page in a separate template. — ceejayoz talk 15:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Sam! Don't encourage them! Fredil Yupigo 16:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Nooooooo, it will be vandalised with pictures of IVRYSAUR.Anyway...I don't even know why I was trying to look up Ivysaur anyway, I haven't been into pokemon since I was 6 (5 years ago)--Centurion Ry 11:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes Sam never heard of Heinz? Thanks for a great laugh though ;) --Alf melmac 11:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The great penis controversy of 2006 

message: A good example of main page features, Loch Ard Gorge is written properly and the scenic photograph of the site relates well. The article's basic information doesn't ramble and describes the place in full detail. What can we learn from the feature? I think an award for "best Wikipedia feature" is considerate, and if the poster is a "newbie" he/she has enough experience on artistic design on the internet. Keep up the good work. --Mike D 26 23:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a lot of work to be done to bring it up to the featured article criteria.  In the future, though, nominations for featured status go on Featured article candidates. — ceejayoz talk 02:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about a Good Article nomination ? --PFHLai 15:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an okay little article, but it's not that good. The picture is what makes it, but the article shouldn't be structured as a picture caption. --Dhartung | Talk 22:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loch Ard Gorge 

message: That sounds like an outrageous claim - both banks and female employment existed for long before the 19th century. Since the claim is unreferenced on the page, we should probably remove it from the main page. Zocky | picture popups 03:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree. Since none of the statements in the article are referenced, I change the DYK to be more generic and vague. If one can demonstrate a cited claim, feel free to reword it. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The earliest bank to employ women" 

message: Both today's featured article and the top news item (the rediscovery of German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin) are clear evidence of Wikipedia's inherent pro-Nazi bias. JusticeGuy 08:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (PS - that was a joke) JusticeGuy 08:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

text: That's why I like Wikipedia—it's in tune with my Nazi lifestyle. Hyenaste (tell) 08:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to consider that in some parts of the world, making light of Nazism is considered poor taste. Zocky | picture popups 16:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well, Wikipedia talkpages have never been censored for good taste, in my experience. Except on April Fool's Day, of course, when any attempt at being funny is relentlessly repressed :) dab (ᛏ) 17:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NAZI BIAS!!!

message: The last item in the 'Did you know...' section has a typo - double 'are':
Did you know...
"that Chindonya are are elaborately costumed Japanese street musicians that advertise for shops and other establishments?"
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.89.204 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 2006 July 29 (UTC).
: Someone fixed this already. Thanks for pointing this out. Next time, please report errors like that at WP:ERRORS. Thanks. -- PFHLai 16:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did you know...Chindonya 

message: Shouldn't we put the fact that a future hall of famer & 300 game winner was traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.175.9.194 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If we did Maddux, we'd also have to do Bobby Abreu being traded, Andruw Jones almost being traded, and Alfonso Soriano not being traded. And if we do that, we may as well put in the end of Reggie Bush's holdout, and the continuation of Matt Leinart's. And if we have baseball and football, we'd probably also have to throw in any major trades in basketball, hockey, and even soccer. And if we allow something as unimportant as Soccer on the main page, we may as well have important news from the (non-existant) Transsexual Senior Softball League or something. So I think it's a reeeeaaaally bad precedent. Preston 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Please see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page to find out what the 'In the news' section on MainPage is about. We strongly prefer major news items with international relevance there. If you insist, please post your suggestion at the ITN Candidates' page, not here on Talk:Main Page. But I doubt this would get posted on MainPage. -- PFHLai 22:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Greg Maddux]]

message: what % of wikipedia's edits are by non-logged users? I'm guessingn a massive majority
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.233.17.125 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 31 July 2006  (UTC).
:I think you guess wrong. Check the history of any article; you will see a majority of logged users' edits.--Cloviz 00:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OTOH, there are many articles, especially those with short edit histories, which were mostly written by non-logged in users. Zocky | picture popups 02:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: As of February 2005, the English Wikipedia received more than 15,000 edits a day, 35% of which were made by people who were not on the list of the 1000 highest contributors.
So a year and a half ago, anon editors were probably contributing less that 35% of edits. On the other hand it is difficult to be sure how well that statistic was measured (its possible it actually excludes all anonymous edits). There are however, several surprisingly prolific anonymous editors. -- Solipsist 17:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just refound one of those prolific good anonymous editors. Check the talk page for 68.39.174.238 -- Solipsist 23:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

text: check pages with, Special:Cite or here there is a 50 or so day lag but u get the idea Childzy (Talk|Contribs) 17:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  % of edits non-logged? 

message: Having had a look around at all the others, I think that our Main Page is... well... the best!  hydnjo talk 00:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That too.  --hydnjo talk 14:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Our Main Page

message: this may warrant inclusion as news when it develops. TewfikTalk 01:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You must first create a good article for it and then post your suggestion at ITN Candidates' page--Cloviz 03:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castro temporarily hands power over 

message: I don't like that two line thing appearing at the top of every single page on Wikipedia - it's quite ugly and distracts from the primary purpose of Wikipedia which is to be an encyclopedia for the general public, not a message board for Wikipedians! — SteveRwanda 09:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree 110.1415% --219.89.236.186 10:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I completely agree with this. There are more than enough places where anyone who is interested will find the information. It should NOT be on top of every page, in fact nothing should *ever* be at the top of every page. So much effort has gone into designing the main page and then suddenly it's ruined because someone wants to announce something very loudly. Piet 10:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest putting this message only on the Community Portal page. Maybe make it larger, because the people who visit that page are usually the ones interested in getting involved in things like elections, promotional events, etc... Phils 10:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or on watchlists, as was done for the arb com elections (IIRC). --Spangineeres (háblame) 15:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Message at top of page 

message: Who added that lonely-looking interwiki-link to the Simple English WP to the main page? Simple has more than 10000 articles, so it should be in the languages box. --Rain74 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: but, simple english is not a language. BrokenSegue 17:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was the reason behind Brian0918's idea to move it from the Wikipedia languages section.  (More precisely, it was to eliminate the lengthy text that I had added to accommodate it.)  Unfortunately, it was automatically labeled "in other languages, and I was unsuccessful in my attempts to change that.  The link has been moved back to the Wikipedia languages section, and the explanatory text has been reworded to avoid referring to the various Wikipedias as "other languages."  —David Levy 17:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple English 

message: Castro is relinquishing duties - not power - as per the Cuban constitution. Please change asap.--Zleitzen 15:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS. --64.229.223.88 16:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure I truly see the distinction between powers and duties, myself. But it seemed to matter to some people. --Dhartung | Talk 08:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Castro

message: How come the Main Page shows "main page" and "discussion" tabs, while this page shows "article" and "discussion" tabs?  Not sure if it always has, but I've just noticed it.  Could be a little confusing to some.  violet/riga (t) 15:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  main page / article 

message: Please update the casualty count as noted in the main article and talk page. --aishel 17:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS. --64.229.5.214 20:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Casualty amount in Qana airstrike

message: There's a typo in today's featured article, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. "Remedies" has only one 'i'. Could someone fix this? --dm (talk) 03:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS. --64.229.205.228 15:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Typo

message: The images currently seem very small (except for the featured picture). Can they perhaps be made a bit bigger? Thanks in advance. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 05:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * It's now Talk:Main Page/Archive 76#Main Page images. --199.71.174.100 00:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Sizes 

message: Practically all of your contemporary biographies read like advertisements. How can I trust you?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.155.207.167 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add    on articles that read like advertisements. Someone will clean them up shortly. Actually, you can start cleaning them up right away. -- 64.229.223.126 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read like adverts in what language?  But seriously, I think it's a result of articles being created (usually) by people who like that individual and think they should have an article, or have their article expanded.  It you want to see a mess, watch some of the "company" edits of for-profit colleges that turn them into brochures. As the person above stated, feel free to take a knife (edit) to it immediately if you wish --Bobak 19:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or the people trying to quietly slip a URI for their business into an article claiming it as further reading. We're  watching (most of the time). --Monotonehell 20:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The IP editor 81.155.207.167 has been adding nonsense to Alan Hart (writer), and has received four warnings in little over 24 hours. --Dhartung | Talk 08:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not a commercial service for advertisers. Why not take it to Campus Life magazine for college admission endorsements? Articles should stay away from endorsing products or anything of the sort. You never will find an ad inside Encyclopedia Britannica or the World Book, would you? The thing is free enterprise doesn't really exist in academic research sources, so whoever placed the advertising-like articles should adhere to this rule. --Mike D 26 12:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia as advertisement

message: This is my first attempt to initiate a discussion:  in the Northern Michigan area saunas used by American-Finns, bundles of cedar branches (instead of birch leaves) are provided to beat the skin to a rosy red and, as grandfather said, "to open the pores."    
Also, I see no mention of "Tar Candles" as a folk medicine.  In Finland, there is a saying: "If tar and the Sauna don't work, you're going to die." Commodore678 03:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: okay... you may want to find the appropriate article for that... like Sauna. --219.89.236.186 07:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finnish Sauna 

message: Huh? Isn't the North Korean flood more important than anything Floyd Landis will ever do? Call me crazy... -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In The News is not Wikinews.  In the News covers how articles have been updated to reflect new events.  Create a good article on the North Korean flood, and it can be added to the ITN template. Dark Shikari talk/contribs 18:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

text: You can start with posting a headline about the flood along with a few newslinks on Portal:Current events. Thanks. --64.229.205.128 20:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  News items 

message: Lindsay Lohan, "Music of the US" the featured article had gone down.  Are we really short of anything substantial? Defining? Obscure? Needing exploration? May an article on "Everyday Life" next or "Pubic Hairs?" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArthurianLegend (talk • contribs) .
:Music of the United States is an article you might find in any encyclopedia. And you missed the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Nevertheless, if the article on pubic hair is improved to featured standards, I see no reason (other than taste) why it should not be, well, featured. Better we encourage even quotidian articles on popular culture to be of high quality than concentrate only on the quality of the "proper" articles, true? --Dhartung | Talk 08:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article 

message: Is it correct to call it a strife?  Can someone explain the difference between a conflict and a strife?--Patchouli 18:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Strife is basically headlinese because it's short. It isn't much used in formal writing, though, and it's become a bit of a cliché with regard to the Middle East. Where do we use it, or is your issue with the word "conflict" that we do use? --Dhartung | Talk 20:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no issue with conflict.  I think conflict should be used here unless Lebanon declares war; then, there is a war between two nations.  Now it is a military engagement involving guerrillas.  I just wanted to learn about strife.--Patchouli 20:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Am I suppose to use quotation marks or italicize here for the two words I used?--Patchouli 20:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can do it either way you choose, this is only a Talk page and there isn't any requirement of style, only of being understood. I still do not understand your question. Strife is an English word very similar to conflict, but it is not used nearly as much in formal writing. Conflict is used in this case more often because the conflict is not always violent, whereas strife usually implies active violence. --Dhartung | Talk 22:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Patchouli, you may want to check out Wikipedia:Manual of Style. But on talkpages, anything goes. --199.71.174.100 22:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "[C]onflict is not always violent, whereas strife usually implies active violence," is the explanation I was seeking.--Patchouli 08:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I think I just found out how it's done, so please forget what I just wrote. --Thomas Blomberg 15:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel-Lebanon Conflict 

message: surely you meant to say "Cuban Italic textdictator, Fidel Castro, handed over Italic textpower to his brother...yada yada yada...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmax5 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 5 August 2006
:Officially, Castro is the President.  That is the proper way to address him. -- Psy guy Talk 01:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we didnt. The still-President of Cuba handed over his duties. Is this in any way inaccurate? Preston 02:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not quite, Castro never took an oath to cease presidential duties, and his brother Raul is placed in duty (temporarily) until Fidel is fully recovered. Interestingly, Fidel's 80th birthday is due around the corner and the world watches to see Fidel will remain president, the longest-running dictator at this time for 47 years may continue to hold that title. --Mike D 26 12:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "duties" of "President" Fidel Castro 

message: Shouldn't "Debian" be hyperlinked in the Ubuntu article?  --Irrevenant 03:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's there now.  If it was there already and I missed it: sorry.  If it wasn't: thanks. --Irrevenant 04:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't "Debian" be hyperlinked in the Ubuntu article?