Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains/Archive: 2005

message: See Talk:Class I railroad. --SPUI (talk) 23:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: LIRR a Class I?

message: Comment moved here from the main project page:
:How about adding "Signaling" (Signalling in U.K.) as a secondary-level topic? TimeriderTech 20:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't that be covered under "Operations"?  JYolkowski 22:19, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I guess I got thrown by the U.K. definition of "Operations". In the U.S., the "Operations" department only operates the trains, and signaling is considered a separate department.  Most U.S. railroads are divided into three major pieces: Operations, Track, and C&S (Communications and Signaling). TimeriderTech 04:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second level topics 

message: See Talk:Metro. --SPUI (talk) 13:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging [[streetcar]]/[[tram]] and [[subway]]/[[metro]]?

message: I've created this article, partly to dispel the myth of the Granite Railroad being the first (and have corrected the mentions of that). I haven't yet gone through and added all the railroads listed in the references; if anyone wants to jump in that would be great, especially if someone can determine whether any before the Granite Railroad evolved into common carriers with continuous operation. --SPUI (talk) 08:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Oldest railroads in North America]]

message: I have been writing articles about railroad companies recently, and have come up with a set of guidelines. I'd like comments. --SPUI (talk) 10:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed guidelines on articles about steam railroad companies

message: Any comments? --SPUI (talk) 10:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: We're all adding and editing trains articles on our own, but it seems to me that we might have a better chance at building up feature-quality articles if we do a collaboration of the week like other WikiProjects do.  Several of us are helping out on Indian Railways right now which is the current India Collaboration of the Week.  How much support is there among us on WikiProject Trains to do a Trains Collaboration of the Week? slambo 14:05, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
:I'd support it if enough other people are interested.  JYolkowski // talk 23:48, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trains Collaboration of the Week/Month 

message: I'd like some comments on the maps I've made for New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad and Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines. These are meant to be general locator maps rather than detailed system maps, which would ideally go in the history section. --SPUI (talk) 23:42, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They look pretty good.  The only suggestion I have would be to use smaller dots for the cities.  JYolkowski // talk 22:57, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps

message: If anyone could help expand this article, that would be great. --SPUI (talk) 22:49, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Arrangements between railroads]]

message: I encourage all to vote against ignorance at :commons:Template:Deletion requests#.25 articles of User:SPUI. Take the time to understand the point of these, and realize that they are useful. --SPUI (talk) 01:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletions on commons

message: Periodically, I've been going through some of the common names for rail topics where the common name is a disambig article here, and pointing the links to the correct targets.  For example, many editors are using Southern Railway and not distinguishing between Southern Railway (UK) and Southern Railway (US).  Great Northern Railway is another common disambig fix.
Rather than try to remember all of the disambig pages that need to be checked on a regular basis for links that should be directed elsewhere, I've started a list (and I know at least SPUI has seen the page and helped out already) at User:Slambo/Disambig.  The more I built the list, the more I thought it would be good to move it out here to the project as a periodic maintenance task.  I invite the community to join in and add other common disambig link bypasses for rail transport topics (there are probably many more we can add based on reporting marks).  There is one redirect on the list right now, Amtrack.  I've seen way too many places that use this misspelling, so I check it along with the disambigs.
Any others that we should be checking regularly?  Are there any objections to making this an official project maintenance task by moving the page to something like Wikipedia:WikiProject/Disambig repair?  Is there anything else I missed that absolutely should be included?  slambo 19:05, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the tracking page is now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Todo/Disambig as an official task.  slambo 15:33, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambig link bypasses 

message: While updating the portal this morning, I noticed something interesting.  This article uses the image shown at right; the image is used here in the  infobox, as can be seen on the train article.  Since the image was used outside of WP, I took a look at the image page here and found that it has been tagged with  since January 8 2005.  Does anyone have the source information on this image or an alternate image in case this one is deleted as the unverified template says it will be? slambo 11:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the uploader says it is "my own photo" and in User:G-Man/photo_gallery he says his photos are PD, so I fixed the tag on the above image. It appears that "bakutoday.net" took the image from WP, not the other way around! --Janke | Talk 12:46, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, thanks for checking further and retagging it.  Looking at it again, I don't know why I didn't see the uploader's information (Doh!). slambo 12:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unverified source on track image 

message: :Image:Trbx88.jpg (at right) has no information on it's source.  It was uploaded by  on October 10 (the upload was the first edit by this user name).  I've left a welcome note on the user's page with comments requesting source information and a license tag, but I haven't seen anything from this user yet.  The image illustrates a new stub, created by the same user, for Timken Roller Bearing Company.  Anyone else know anything about this image?  I'd hate to see it disappear.  AdThanksVance.  slambo 15:22, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Two weeks later, and still no update to indicate the source or license.  I've left another message at the uploader's talk page requesting source and license information.  I hate to do this, but it's time to put the untagged template on it.  slambo 15:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

text: It was speedied earlier today for the reasons cited above.  slambo 00:12, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another untagged rail image 

message: ... especially about the history of model railroads. I also created a new section, "Landscaping" - very important to many railroad modellers. Please expand as you see fit, thanks! --Janke | Talk 19:46, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rail transport modelling]] needs more info... 

message: A gentleman has contacted the Wikipedia help desk searching information on this topic. I would be grateful if anyone could help him.
I linked to your site from the Conrail Cyclopedia site. I don't know if you can help me but I'll try any way.
 
First off: My quest has nothing whatever to do with model railroading! I'm looking into the way the railroads ordered stuff back at the turn of the century(1900s).
 
As an example, If it was decided by the "powers that be" to run a telegraph/signal line from one town (station) to another I've been told by an old time railroader that the "STORES DEPARTMENTS" were the ones that supplied the required materials (i.e.. poles, wire, insulators, signaling devices, telegraph stuff, etc.). He further told me that they would consult a source known as the "Maintenance of Way Cyclopedia" that told them what was available and where to order it. He further told me that the cyclopedia was used by different rail lines and was not unique to any one line.
 
Now, I'm trying to find a copy of this "Maintenance of Way Cyclopedia" to look at. I want to see who they would order the supplies from. I know that this is a crazy request to a fellow such as yourself who seems to be more involved with rolling stock. Would you have any suggestions as to where I might locate this resource? I've tried the Smithsonian, various libraries and many rail fan sites with no success.
 
I'd appreciate any info you can provide. By the way, I'm not a school kid doing a term paper. I'm a 76 year old retired telephone engineer who's father put 40 years into the Santa Fe as fireman, brakeman, electrician, and a few more jobs. He brought power into the Dallas/Ft Worth yards when they opened up. I'm just doing a little personal research.
Thanks for any help you can give him.
Capitalistroadster 01:38, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Maintenance of Way Cyclopedia

message: I'd like some comments on the infobox I just added to Adirondack - is it useful? Should anything be added or removed? --SPUI (talk) 05:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Amtrak infobox

message: Hi, this is mainly to introduce myself to the group. I'm working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of British narrow gauge railways, a subject near and dear to my heart. I'm currently working on a List of British Narrow Gauge Railways which threatens to be a long-term project. I'd welcome comments and assistance - already the page is too long and needs splitting. I'm also adding to various railway-specific pages (Corris Railway, Plynlimon and Hafan Tramway and others) and contributing to some railway modelling pages (16mm scale, Garden railway).
I'd like to bring my work under the umbrella of this WikiProject. Does anyone object if I join this fine group? Gwernol 06:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome!  That's an interesting specialty that I haven't seen championed by another editor yet.  One nitpicky thing that I noticed really quickly is that measurements for feet and inches should not use the ' and " characters but rather the abbreviations ft and in (and if you want to link the first instance of each, ft and in); be sure to include   between the number and tne unit specifier.  See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Measurements for more info. Slambo (Speak) 11:47, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes, I figured I'd need to make that change. The usual convention in books on this subject is ' and ", but I realize the Wiki convention is ft and in. I also ought to include the metric equivalent after the imperial measurement. I will attend to this. Best, Gwernol 15:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool.  BTW, I used an item from Ffestiniog Railway for the "Did you know" section of the Trains Wikiportal today. Slambo (Speak) 16:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: British narrow gauge