Talk:First ladies and gentlemen of the Philippines

message: Is Noynoy Aquino a "first lady" instead of Ninoy Aquino, who is the "spouse of the president"? Very debatable. Who hosted the palace during the term of Corazon Aquino? --Noypi380 08:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For that matter, Is Mr. Arroyo also the "host" of the palace or just a "spouse of the president"? --Noypi380 08:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Mr. Arroyo is really the host, since most of the State Dinners hosted by the President, he is always there, that is not debatable, he is always present in State Functions of the Palace. Meanwhile, as for Noynoy Aquino, I am not sure, during the term of her mother, I don't think she enjoyed hosting dinners for visiting dignitaries, etc. for her mother, she is just busy on her young showbiz career on that time, making movies during the late 80s and early 90s, that is as far as I can remember. --Glenncando 22:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Since a first lady/gentleman should be wife/husband of the president, his status as being married ended with his assasination since marriage "from death do us part", not eternal. --Howard the Duck 11:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ninoy shouldn't be here

message: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piepieilovepie (talk • contribs) 00:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be moved to "Ladies and Gentlemen" 

message: I suggest we move the article to "First Spouses of the Philippines". 122.53.107.77 (talk) 15:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

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message: The title of this article appears to me to be an unreferenced arbitrarily coined neologism, obviously derived from the U.S. term "First Lady" and is simply being haphazardly and in my opinion inappropriately applied to the spouses of any president of the Philippines, as if it actually was an officially utilized "title" of some sort. Wikipedia isn't a venue for promoting new terms or titles, in my opinion this articles sole purpose is simply an attempt at pushing the idea of using "First Gentleman" or "First Lady" as a title for any spouse of a President of the Philippines, without any substantiating support whatsoever. In my opinion, as pointed out above, this article badly needs to be renamed something like "Spouses of the President of the Philippines". cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 19:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have always thought of First Spouse of the Philippines, which is more succinct than the title in its current form.  Maybe I'll be bold and move it myself. --Sky Harbor (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with both of you. The title is too long for comfort, especially when "First Ladies and Gentlemen" could be condensed to "First Spouses" or something similar. As neither of these are official titles, I believe that Deconstructhis' proposition works better. Sang'gre Habagat (talk) 09:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Badly needs title change 

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message: According to the a inline citation, Victoria Quirino was the first one to have the distinction. Shouldn't be the list starts with her and the wives of Aguinaldo to Roxas excluded since they weren't called "First Ladies" then. Or is there some kind of official source for the succession even though the distinction wasn't still use during the time of Aguinaldo to Roxas?Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:04, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the first time the term "First Lady" came into use doesn't imply that the person who was first referred to as such is really the first in the order. . — Mediran [talk] 15:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clarifying.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sucession source? 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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The result of the move request was: Not moved   (t · c) buidhe 00:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: First Lady or Gentleman of the Philippines →  – The consensus appears to be using the plural and "and". See Talk:Second Ladies and Gentlemen of the United States#In the event of a Female VP. Showiecz (talk) 18:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 17 February 2021 

message: I don't see any sources supporting the lead claim that First Lady or First Gentleman of the Philippines (Filipino: Unang Ginang o Unang Ginoó ng Pilipinas) is the customary title.  Probably this should be adjusted to be a description, rather than a title.  Lowercase, not upper.  Are they any sources using either the English or the Filipino phrase as stated? Dicklyon (talk) 02:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: Since the 11th, 15th and 16th on this list are vacant should the numbers then be removed because technically if the position is vacant you don't number it since its not an individual. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:12, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No the label clearly states "President Number" (Pres. No), not First Lady/Gentleman Number. The numbers are linked to their President rather than themselves. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 02:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renumber  

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