Talk:Augusta National Golf Club

message: Okay, okay, this article is young and uncomprehensive. But the first thing a conservative will see lacking is any mention of the saturation coverage of Augusta National's policy towards women members by the New York Times, which has become a canonical example of its Liberal media bias.
:If you'd like to add a section to the article about its controversial membership policy, of course feel free.  My mention of the commercial-free broadcast of The Masters was added specifically to touch on the subject.  I'd suggest, however, that it should be focused more on the golf club itself and less on liberal media bias.  Dmleach 15:08, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservative viewpoint 

message: As we have the names of each hole, could someone make a chart giving the par and approximate yardage for each? I think it would add to the article. -R. fiend 15:34, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Holes

message: Thank you so much, anonymous user!  I've read from a few sources that Roberts immediately adjourned the meeting after Ike's request, but never why.  I'm glad someone that understood what happened took the time to add that clarification (12/14/05 revision). --Dmleach 23:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Eisenhower tree

message: I've pasted in the content of a stub about Amen Corner, but it was inconsistent with this article, so I have requested citations for both theories. Scranchuse 15:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Amen Corner

message: "By 2009, no woman had been admitted to Augusta National, and the International Olympic Committee, upon considering golf as an Olympic sport in 2016, re-examed whether the sport itself fits the goal of a "sport practiced without discrimination with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."
The above quote has nothing to do with the Augusta National Golf Club or its membership convroversy, and should be deleted.
"The club has women on its membership waiting list, but will not allow them to circumvent the regular membership process to appease those outside the club."
As has been documented in Golf Digest, Curt Samson's book The Masters and other places, ANGC has no waiting list.  membseship is by invitation only.  this should be deleted.
This is always going the most contentious section of the article.  For my part, I don't have a strong opinion on whether or not the club should admit women.  I think it's sad that they don't, but I think it's their right not to.  I say this now because I don't want anyone to think I'm pulling out POV speech because I disagree with it.
I removed the following text from the section because there are no references.  If anyone can find citations to back it up, feel free to add it back with the reference:
* "(a very low number considering both the unmatched quality of the golf course and the vast wealth of many of the club's members)."  A good reference would be the membership fees for other, similarly prestigious and well-known country clubs.  At any rate "unmatched quality" and "vast wealth" have no place in the article.
* "The present chairman of the Club, William "Billy" Payne, has maintained the position that the club is private and holds the right to determine who the members are with no regard to sex, creed, or race of a prospective member of the club."  In fact, I found just the opposite; Payne is taking the "high road" approach every chairman other than Hootie Johnson took and is saying nothing.  If you can find a real quote, add it back with a reference.
I removed the following text from the section because it's POV:
* "...non-policy policy against..."  Replaced with "lack of female membership"
* "...led to a huge public row..."  Replaced with "received national attention"
* "...the little-known [NCWO]..."  Removed, no reason to have it
* "The club's official reply, from then-chairman Hootie Johnson, was that the club would not be told how to run its own affairs by an outsider, especially not "at the point of a bayonet.""  Seems more relevant to an article about Hootie Johnson and how he handled the protests.  This is the one edit I'm willing to admit I may have swung too far the other way on.
* "As the controversy has died down, commercials resumed in 2005 with sponsorship by ExxonMobil, IBM and AT&T."  Removed, it's minutia
--Dmleach 14:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Membership section and POV

message: Might be worth adding that the club took action against Nick Faldo after he let British chat show hoast Terry Wogan try on his green jacket. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Djarra (talk • contribs) 15:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faldo/Wogan incident 

message: An anonymous editor (maybe correctly) changed the fees from $250,000 to $500,000 to $25,000 to $50,000. The former seems ridiculous, but I'll leave it to someone else to determine which is correct. - Dudesleeper  Talk 15:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Membership fees 

message: These tags are a bit gratuitous given the secrecy of the Augusta National. Membership lists, initiation fees and so on are generally not disclosed by the club and so remain educated or secondhand speculation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hughespj (talk • contribs) 16:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The site looks pretty well sourced at this point. Unless anyone objects, I'll remove the "needs sources" hatnote. PRRfan (talk) 21:09, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need Sources tags 

message: One part of Crow's Nest section says it can be reached only by ladder, and another says it can be reached by a narrow flight of stairs. I deleted both since they contradict each other.--NCDane (talk) 21:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Access to Crow's Nest 

message: There's no mention of the legal controversies as the National tried to copyright the phrases "Home of the Masters" and even the words "Augusta" and "Golf," successfully retaining only the phrase "Home of the Masters." There's quite a bit of reliable media information sources about this. Much like the Martha Burk controversy, it was a pretty notable event in the history of the club and the tournament, especially in the context of the Augusta area where it is still a somewhat sensitive topic.
205.219.133.1 (talk) 02:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Controversy 

message: does anyone know who this hole is named after?? its homework.??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.102.178.145 (talk) 01:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This belongs at the reference desk. Anyway, this article is about an entire course, not a hole. If you're talking about the name of the course, that's is the city it's in. If you happen to be talking about the famous Rae's Creek, it's named after former property owner John Rae. Bzweebl  (talk • contribs) 22:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ??? 

message: This course is also present in Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13. It should be added to the article. I'm not familiar with this language version of Wikipedia, so I write it here. If it hasn't been added in a few days, I will do my best to add it myself. 85.224.184.123 (talk) 13:19, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearances in video games 

message: The article says: "Augusta National Golf Club is known to be a socially traditional institution."  Could someone knowledgeable and objective flesh out this section?  What does "socially traditional" mean in this context?  (Is it just a reference to attire?  Is it being implied that Augusta National is in some respects today 'more traditional' than most golf clubs?)  An example or two would be helpful.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77DA:6210:E0DE:ACC6:F697:4AE (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture 

message: The Thompson Cabin and the Firestone Cabins were built by Garren Construction Co.. A local residential home building company specializing in high end custom homes in and around Augusta, Ga. The company consisted of two brothers, Jimmy Garren and J. Kearns Garren. They also remodeled several of the other existing cabins over a period of years. They also added second story covered porches on the famed Eisenhower and Butler cabins. They constructed the scoring entrance into the lower floor of the clubhouse also. 2601:100:8180:4D50:A025:5038:675:C21D (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Augusta National Construction