Talk:List of Phi Sigma Kappa members

message: Phi Sig has many high achievers. You may be one of them. There may be valid reasons to add your own name here, but please ensure that a fair and impartial reader would also count your achievements - which surely are many - as worthy of being listed on this page.
You see, Wikipedia has rules regarding Notability, which preclude everyone from posting their bio and accomplishments.  It's an encyclopedia, too, so the information here is meant to be a summary of OUTSIDE SOURCES of original research. NOT as a place to make a first announcement of a fact. The largely non-Phi Sig editors that manage this are very aggressive about their role, and for newbies, it can be disheartening to have painstaking edits to a page dismissed and your entry deleted. It happened to me, the first few times. Believe me, it's not personal.
In early 2014 when I rebuilt this page from its original stubby form, I made a slew of edits: many new listings were added to the page and a dozen or so listings were removed. As an example of this notability issue (and not to pick on the guy), I removed the following listing from the Sports Section for which I can find no independent link citing its importance. Now, the brother is probably a great fellow, and the accomplishment may be real, but according to Wikipedia's own rules, his listing had to go:
His can be revived if someone can provide a bona fide outside reference, and if the sport of four square is notable in the consensus of admins and experienced editors. 
If you are unsure, I wish to suggest the following examples whereby we can self-administer a list of consistent criteria.  If we want to change the criteria, that can be done by consensus, but we need to hash it out here on this "Talk" page, and not on the published web page itself. 
* Government: Any elected governor or Congressional or national official. Also, Cabinet secretaries, ambassadors, NGO heads.
* Science and Research: Major patent holders, astronauts, inventors of significance.
* Business and Industry: CEOs, presidents, founders of significant public companies, of private companies employing more than 500 people or with annual revenue in excess of $100M. Leaders of nationally-known events or projects, VPs, SVPs or EVPs of notability. 
* Religion: Presidents of seminaries, well-known chaplains. 
* Entertainment and broadcasting: Members of SAG, AFTRA, AEA, ASCAP or independently cited actors and artists, heads of related national associations.
* Civic Leadership: Heads of significant national or state civic organizations.
* Military: General officers or higher, recipients of national honors (Congressional Medal of Honor, etc.)
* Journalism and Literature: Publishers and editors of notable magazines and newspapers, published authors (via commercial publishing houses, not self-published)
* Sports: Professional athletes and coaches, winners of collegiate honors, Olympic medalists and coaches, nationally ranked athletes.
* Education: Presidents or chancellors of accredited institutions, heads of educational associations, educators or administrators who've had collegiate buildings named in their honor.
If you wish to add a name, and it is in keeping with these guidelines, be sure to follow the syntax. Include the man's Wikilink article where possible (often a good indicator that they are "notable"), include the chapter name and class year, a concise summary of the accomplishment, and at least one reference. 
Should a reader have questions, please leave a comment here or by clicking the name of a Wikipedia volunteer editor. Jax MN (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Click here to return to the main Article page. Jax MN (talk) 15:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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