Talk:MS al-Salam Boccaccio 98

message: Sorry to burst your bubble on this but what exactly do you mean by "radar contact"??I'd rather say "the last point where the radar signal of the ship was recieved."Its not like 
radio that you can lose contact.
:I'd read that as "the last time the ship's radar echo was detected by coastal radar stations", but "losing radar contact" is more succinct. -- Arwel (talk) 13:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Radar contact??

message: In Arabic you say asSalaam not Al-Salaam. 83.160.142.158
:That is true, but the ship was registered in Panama under the name given in the article, and as such it is the name that should be used. Batmanand 12:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at their website, they apparently have no strict rules for writing AsSalaam. Nevertheless, I agree with you. 83.160.142.158
The definite article in Arabic is always written "Al" (alef, lam), regardless of pronounciation (as in "As-Salam") or transliteration ("el," "il"). Therefore the title is correct. Further, since there is no capitalization in Arabic, the fuss about al-Salam vs. Al-Salam is meaningless. 24.63.125.223 20:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The homepage of the company name one of their ship Al-Salam 89. There is no Al-Salam 98. I think the number could be wrong. Al-Salam 89 81.230.118.34 22:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The homepage also lists M/V Al Salam Boccaccio'98. . This is the ship which sank.--Wedian 19:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: It is really ridiculous to read that Reuters is "now" reporting. Shouldn't encyclopedia be timeless? 83.160.142.158
:Yes, though it will obviously be changed over the coming hours.  violet/riga (t) 13:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing "now" 

message: Hey guys, when giving updates on casualty, please provide sources and references. It is because other editors need to know which information is new and which are out-dated. There will be conflicting reports emerging from the media, we need to "time-stamp" all these information to facilitate our updates. At least provide the external links of your sources. Thank you. --Vsion (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Provide sources when updating casualty figures 

message: There seemed to be a notable absence in an article on this ferry operator, and I have thus started an article on El Salam Maritime Transport. I would encourage editors with information on the company to help expand it! └ UkPaolo/talk�? 21:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  El Salam article 

message: BREAKING NEWS Egyptian official says 314 people rescued from sunk ferry that was carrying 1,400 passengers and crew, AP reports. 
WikieZach 22:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CNN-AP please add 

message: From the Library of Congress: .  --Grocer 10:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Map

message: Shouldn't the name of the article be "M/S Al-Salam Boccaccio 98"? kallemax 11:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *or M/V al-Salam 89 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.49.164 (talk • contribs) M/V al-Salam 89
* "M/V al-Salam Boccaccio 98" then. kallemax 00:52, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

text: *Why M/V and not M/S now? and is it 98 or 89? --24.26.178.224 01:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Why 98 and not 89 then? 81.225.55.231 10:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *It wasn't the 89 that sank. κалл�?мак�? 08:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: AP is now claiming "1,272 passengers and a crew of about 100" and only 800 dead but since the article didn't say who gave this number I didn't use it. Rmhermen 00:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Casualties

message: So middle eastern people do "riots" while West European people do "mass demonstrations"? Isn't this rather POV and racist? As far as we know so far, the protestors didn't carry out any violence against people, they only damaged some inanimate objects such as tables and chairs. Boud 13:12, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not read any racist content in the original description - the dictionary shows that in English riot can be applied to a violent demonstration which damages property. The choice of words may be a matter of spin; what one person perceives as a peaceful demonstration may be another person's riot, especially as in this case the usually careful BBC say that the riot police were called in! My preference would to be a bit less sensitive to spin. However, the present wording does mention the damage, the flames and the riot police so I dont really object to the article as at present - I just offer a perspective on use of English! Op. Deo 14:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Having been picky with Boud's argument, I will be picky with Myron's. The way I read my dictionary and the BBC report referenced in the article, both terms could legitimately be applicable. What started off as a public demonstration of relatives' feelings became violent and an incident of public disorder with damage to property, and at that point it could also be called a riot. The issue of organisation is not addressed in the report and I don't think this is necessary for a sponataneous demonstration, nor of course does it have to be absent for the word riot to be used. I think the title could be either. In actual fact the section title presently reads mass protest which is also acceptable to me since the section content expands on the title, and mentions that violence occurred. Op. Deo 21:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  riots or demonstrations? 

message: The Al Salam Boccaccio 98 is not a sister ship to the Pride of Al Salam 95, the two vessels are of a completely different type. http://www.bymnews.com/new/content/view/24496/82/
: above comment moved off article page by me.  Fixed text to reflect that they are owned by the same company , which is different from being sister ships. Knotnic 14:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: sister ship

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message: The issue if Italy has jurisdiction is before the European Court of Justice, case number C-641/18 ----Bancki (talk) 09:57, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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