Talk:The Deep (1977 film)

message: This article has the "1970s horror film" stub at the bottom. Isn't there a "1970s adventure film" stub that would be more appropriate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgoulden (talk • contribs) 22:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Horror Film or Adventure Film?

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message: From the current article: "The group are attacked by tiger sharks, fed stimulants by Cloche to make them more aggressive and prone to attack..." 
Are there any references verifying that those were Tiger sharks, or that "stimulants" were used (in the plot)?
I've done significant diving with sharks, including Tigers, and have studied the film and photos of various sharks and see no evidence of any Tiger sharks in the mix. They appear to be Nuse sharks, Grey Reef sharks, and Blacktip sharks, typical of Bermuda waters. One of the tangled sharks is a Nurse shark and the other appears to be a Grey Reef or a Blacktip shark.
Also, I heard no mention of "stimulants" in the film. The video shows people cutting up meat or fish of some sort and throwing it, some of it bagged, into the water, along with blood. This is a common technique for enticing sharks to feed. Is this what is meant by "stimulants"?
A article and a photo of a Tiger shark are at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark
Note the vertical stripes,, the almost non-existant dorsel fin, and the characteristic tail fin. Also note that a "typical" adult Tiger shark is over eleven feet long. None of the sharks in the film appear to be of this size. Tiger sharks are VERY large. 
Shark Tail shapes, including Tiger Shark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shark_Tail_shapes.svg
None of the sharks in the film exhibit the characteristic tail of the Tiger shark.
Stan Waterman (underwater photographer for "The Deep":
“Now if a feeding frenzy starts that’s something else. But that usually happens with live fish, among tuna and bonito near fishing boats. The sharks just go into a wild, mad frenzy, biting everything in sight. When we were filming The Deep we set fish that had been speared out on the sea floor and then hid behind some coral and the grey reef sharks—which are very aggressive—caught the scent and came in and started tearing into the bait. And when one or two started tearing at the baits their biting activity, the shaking of their jaws, drew others who sensed that there was a feeding going on and for a very brief moment there was a wild, wild melee. But as soon as the food was gone they broke up.” 
In summary, I see no evidence that any of the sharks in "The Deep" are Tiger sharks, and I neither heard nor saw any indication that "stimulants" were being fed to the sharks to entice feeding.
I recommend that the article be changed to read: "The group is attacked by sharks, attracted and excited by bait and blood dropped into the water by Cloche's men....." 
RebateMonger (talk) 05:04, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiger sharks and stimulants 

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