Talk:Chess notation

message: The Unicode representations of the symbols for pieces don't work in my browser. Whatever representations use should work in an "out of the box" browser. Philcha (talk) 01:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I had that problem a couple of years ago and I think there are settings in browsers for that, but (1) I don't remember what they were, and (2) you are right - they should work for everyone "out of the box", and I don't know how to do that.  Does someone know? Bubba73 (talk), 01:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Figurative Algebraic Notation

message: I removed the following from the See Also section because it seems like something accidentally pasted from Algebraic chess notation:
Capture is written as "x" e.g. Rxg5
Check is written as '+' e.g. Bh2+
Double check is written as '++' e.g. Qxg4++
Checkmate is written as '#' e.g. cxb8Q# Note that this is also a promotion
If a move is ambiguous,you write the rank or file it came from.** e.g.Ndf6,R6e3,N4f6,Rfe8,Qgxh7#* 
*Note that the last one checkmates the enemy king.
**Sometimes an ambiguous move is written with the square it came from in brackets i.e. N(g4)f6,R(e6)e3 or Q(g7)xh7#
Bubba73 (talk), 04:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed material

message: I thought it might be interesting to note that, according to World Book Encyclopedia's entry on Chess, "Most players in English-speaking nations use descriptive notation" to record their games.  Obviously they're 30 to 40 years out of date.  Wikipedia FTW!
Ian McKinney (talk) 18:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha! That's hilarious. Looking at some old issues of Chess Life, I see that by June 1982 (at the latest) the magazine was all-algebraic - and I'm pretty sure that by then the use of algebraic to record one's games was mandatory. When was this edition of World Book published? Krakatoa (talk) 23:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I remember that for a few years CL was mixed algebraic/descriptive.  Then there was a period where they were AN except if you submitted a game or question in DN, they would use DN.  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 03:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I looked at some CL issues from 1979 and 1980 and they were mixed descriptive and algebraic - Benko and Evans' columns were in descriptive, and articles were generally in algebraic. Krakatoa (talk) 04:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: USCF rules still allow DN for scoresheets.  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 18:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't know that - strange, since I was actually a tournament director about 30 years ago. It must be only FIDE that insists on algebraic. Krakatoa (talk) 18:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

text:  FIDE requires AN.  USCF supports AN but recognizes DN, computer algebraic, and some others.  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 22:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia v. World Book Encyclopedia 

message: "short algebraic notation", is now the official standard notation of FIDE which must be used in all recognized international competition involving human players. Why doesn't this article say what short algebraic notation is? SunCreator (talk) 20:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs to.  standard and short are the same, right?  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 22:17, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  FIDE don't say anything about 'short algebraic notation', it seems like WP:OR. SunCreator (talk) 23:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, but don't they state "algebraic notation" and don't they give an example of what we are calling "short A.N."?  But I doubt they would object to long A.N.  So should we just say "A.N."? Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 04:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed occurances of 'Short algebraic notation' as this seems unsourced. SunCreator (talk) 12:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

text:  The Oxford Companion under the "standard notation" entry gives A.N.  It goes on to say that there is a "long version" and an "abbreviated version".  The abbreviated version is what we are calling the short version.  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 05:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are problems with the terms used to describe the different variations in notation.  I think some of them are non-standard, but this article reports them as if they are gospel.  I think short algebraic is OK, but "minimal algebraic" seems made up by Milener.  If we can't get a better source, that should be taken out.  It's certainly a valid way to write algebraic, but I don't think the term is standardly recognized.  Worse yet is "really descriptive notation".  Really?  I mean really?  The purported source is a blog, and is not a reliable source.  Worse yet, the blog never says that writing the moves in sentences is called "really descriptive notation".  Quale (talk) 00:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed about "really descriptive notation" and removed it. SunCreator (talk) 00:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  ECO, Informat, etc does omit "x", as well as "+" and others, but I've never heard it called "minimal A.N.".  Bubba73 (the argument clinic), 01:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not heard of 'Minimal algebraic notation' either. According to FIDE it is not mandatory to record the check, the checkmate and capturing on the scoresheet. Description of the Algebraic System C.13. SunCreator (talk) 01:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  short algebraic notation 

message: N-B3 N-B3 (Nc3 Nf6)???? Nobody will understand this! Obscurely from what side Knight is moving... Must be N-QB3 N-KB6.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shuhister (talk • contribs) 11:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true; the kingside knights have already moved at that point in the game. Toccata quarta (talk) 11:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In DN, you count from your own side of the board, so ...Nf6 is indeed N-B3 (or N-KB3 if disambiguation is really needed, which it isn't here.) Double sharp (talk) 18:40, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake in descriptive notation 

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message: If "chess notation" is not a term but "chess notation system" is, then the article title should be Chess notation system. Hyacinth (talk) 00:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: "A chess notation" is not a term. "Chess notation" (i.e. the general concept of recording chess moves in writing) is. Your attempts to improve the long standing wording have not been successful IMO. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See: Use–mention distinction, MOS:WAW, WP:REFERS, and WP:ISAWORDFOR. Hyacinth (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  . --IHTS (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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