Talk:Phaethon

message: :(pronounced /ˈfeɪətn/ or /ˈfeɪəθən/)
Not in Greek anyway. I don't know to whom the English-only speakers are trying to communicate with, but if you try that with English-foreign-speakers like me, you would get a bewildered look. The true pronunciation is like /fuhehˈtonn/, and if you hear a German or an Italian saying Phaëton it will sound like /fuhehˈtonn/. In Sweden we don't go around saying [kamˈbridge] /kuhm-brid-gheh/ for Cambridge, we say it [keimbridʒ], like Englishmen do it. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 18:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, /fuh-ˈeh-tawn/, not /fuh-ehˈ-tonn/! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 18:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronounciation

message: The article at the beginning says Phaëtōn or Phaethōn. I don't think the stress mark on the o is typically used in English (just as "omega" is not spelt "ōmega"). I propose that this be changed to Phaëton or Phaëthon. Count Truthstein (talk) 06:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: According to Plato (in Timaeus), the Egyptians seemed to have knowledge that the Phaeton story was the mythological rendering of a real life occurrence. It would be interesting to find references in the published literature that have explored the various aspects of this question such as (a) the apparent play on words of the name itself (aton being the Egyptian name of the sun), (b) the actual occurrence in real-life of kings in Africa who claimed descent from the sun (i.e. the [Old Kingdom], particularly dynasties V and VI), (c) the [4.2 kiloyear event], and (d) the actual occurrence of a boy king at the time of this event assigned by Manetho, with a name Phiops containing a part of Phaeton's name and seems to further the play on words.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.232.226.86 (talk) 17:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems pretty clear that the myth of Phaethon is an allegorical rendering of the apparent motions of the planet Phaethon (Jupiter), very common in these types of myths, especially the motif of challenging the sun, failing, and falling to earth and/or being killed (see also Inanna/Attar/Lucifer representing the planet Venus) - this is all just synodic cycles. Jupiter has a particularly long cycle that spans seasons, hence the heat/cold motif. The conspiracy theory that Phaethon was a real planet that came too close to earth in ancient times was concocted by people ignorant of how astronomy works. Phaethon is a real planet - Jupiter. Dinoguy2 (talk) 09:33, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Real Life Basis?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Perhaps it should be mentioned towards the end of the article that 'Phaethon' (φαέθω) also means the planet Jupiter, according to Cicero.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0058%3Aalphabetic+letter%3D*f%3Aentry+group%3D1%3Aentry%3Dfae%2Fqw
=== Exactly, remove this reference from the beginning of the article ===
 
Phaethon is the mythological son of Helios. It just so happens that his name was sometimes used to signify the planet Jupiter. Its primary use is to be the name of the son of Helios. It's like saying: "Hoover is the name of a series of vacuum cleaners by many different brands." No, it's not. It's the name of one brand, that has evolved to also signify any and all vacuum cleaners. Therefore, I'm changing the start of the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.40.51.190 (talk) 13:37, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phaethon also means the planet 'Jupiter' 

message: Phaethon is the mythological son of Helios. It just so happens that his name was sometimes used to signify the planet Jupiter. Its primary use is to be the name of the son of Helios. It's like saying: "Hoover is the name of a series of vacuum cleaners by many different brands." No, it's not. It's the name of one brand, that has evolved to also signify any and all vacuum cleaners. Therefore, I'm changing the start of the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.40.51.190 (talk) 13:37, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exactly, remove this reference from the beginning of the article 

message: When was he born 216.227.53.89 (talk) 00:17, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  birth