Talk:Administrative divisions of Mexico

message: Instead of (state) and (city) parentheticals, would be cleaner to have, for instance, Oaxaca state and Oaxaca (or perhaps Oaxaca City)? You can link to those without ugly pipes, and this would seem to accord better with journalistic usage (at least in the US). --Brion 02:25 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC)
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:Why was this moved from List of states of Mexico?  It is a list of states of Mexico, that should be the name of the article.
::Because this is the agreed format from Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries. This article should not remain just a list of states, but rather develop into a general description of what a Mexican state is and how they fit into the historical and political picture. -Scipius 03:49 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)
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I've been thinking about this, and I'd like to propose this pattern:
*Keep Veracruz, Guanajuato, Oaxaca, etc for the cities.
*Use Veracruz (state), Guanajuato (state), Oaxaca (state), for the states. (And, of course, where disambiguation isn't needed, simply Sonora)
*Use Name, State when needed to disambiguate: e.g., León, Guanajuato. 
There's a fair amount of work involved in bringing them all into line, but it seems logical to me and worth the effort. It keeps things simple, and it avoids both jarringly foreign formulations like Chihuahua City and the overly complicated solutions like Veracruz (city) that we've got at present. 
On a related note, Monterrey, Mexico should probably be relocated to Monterrey, Nuevo León, if not to Monterrey – why bother disambiguate with Monterey, California, since the spellings are different?
–User:Hajor 01:58, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: moved here from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Subnational entities/Naming Tobias Conradi (Talk) 03:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: who is we ;-)? is your solution worldwide stable? e.g. did you coordinate with Nigeria? At least allow redirects. I will not change anything regarding Mexican states anymore. Tobias Conradi 20:14, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: thx for your feedback and inviting me. Will do my best Tobias Conradi 22:09, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: States of Venezuela has it uppercase. Tobias Conradi 05:28, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: FYI, the situation with Venezuela is somewhat different, and I think it reflects a difference in local usage. A Mexican will say (or write), "está en el estado de Oaxaca"; a Venezuelan would prefer, "algo pasó en el Estado Vargas." A difference in how the 'estado' flag is perceived. Miranda State is fine for Venezuela, I think, but I would have been reluctant to see Campeche State (although it does exist as a redirect, of course) sanctioned for the Mexican states. –Hajor 13:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming of state articles

message: Is it just me, or do the yellow and brown maps bother others as well?  I'd be willing to make higher resolution maps for locating places in Mexico, and a numbered map as well (at some point these should all be SVG I suppose).  But what colors would be good?  Is the standard (on lots of pages anyway) wikipedia grey, with blue oceans, and some color highlighting okay?  What do people think?
Also, shouldn't some map be made for each state localizing cities within that state?  Simply having a national map with the state highlighted isn't very useful, especially for big states with varied geography, etc.
I'll take responses at my talk page
--Jacobolus 09:12, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color of Maps 

message: Perhaps it's time to embark on the plan we agreed on above -- a scheme which I find very logical and convincing.
The following steps are entailed:
*Aguascalientes
**Move Aguascalientes (the state capital) to Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. Fix links and redirects. 
**Move Aguascalientes (state) to Aguascalientes. 
***Done. 
*Baja California
**Move Baja California (currently about the peninsula) to Baja California peninsula. Fix links and redirects. 
**Move Baja California (state) to Baja California. 
***Done. 
*Campeche
**Campeche to Campeche, Campeche. Fix links and redirects. 
**Campeche (state) to Campeche
***Done. 
*Chihuahua
**Chihuahua to Chihuahua, Chihuahua. Fix links and redirects. 
**Chihuahua (state) to Chihuahua.
***Done. 
*Colima
**Colima to Colima, Colima. Fix links and redirects. 
**Colima (state) to Colima
***Done. 
*Durango (primary topic disambiguation)
**Durango to Durango (disambiguation)
**Durango (state) to Durango (state capital is already at Durango, Durango). Fix links and redirects. 
***Done. 
*Guanajuato
**Guanajuato to Guanajuato, Guanajuato. Fix links and redirects. 
**Guanajuato (state) to Guanajuato
***Done. 
*Oaxaca
**Oaxaca to Oaxaca, Oaxaca. Fix links and redirects. 
**Oaxaca (state) to Oaxaca
***Done. 
*Puebla
**Puebla to Puebla, Puebla. Fix links and redirects. 
**Puebla (state) to Puebla
***Done. 
*San Luis Potosí
**San Luis Potosí to San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí. Fix links and redirects. 
**San Luis Potosí (state) to San Luis Potosí
***Done.
*Tlaxcala
**Tlaxcala to Tlaxcala, Tlaxcala. Fix links and redirects. 
**Tlaxcala (state) to Tlaxcala
***Done.
*Veracruz
**Veracruz to Veracruz, Veracruz. Fix links and redirects. 
**Veracruz (state) to Veracruz
***Done.
*Zacatecas
**Zacatecas to Zacatecas, Zacatecas. Fix links and redirects. 
**Zacatecas (state) to Zacatecas
***Done.
:–Hajor 04:43, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganization of Mexican state / city articles

message: Even though "United Mexican States" has been the traditional translation of "Estados Unidos Mexicanos" in English, gramatically, it is not the most exact translation. United Mexican States would be the translation of Estados Mexicanos Unidos (which would make more sense in Spanish). Estados Unidos Mexicanos (which even in Spanish sounds weird) they are imposing the first adjective "unidos" before "mexicanos", in order to highlight the phrase "United States". A more truthful rendering would be "Mexican United States". Any comments?
::I think it would be correct "United States of Mexico", though I know it sounds quite like the U.S. but, come on, it how it's named after all.
:NO, "United States of Mexico" is not a literal translation (the official name is not "Estados Unidos de México"). I do believe the proper translation should be "Mexican United States". --Alonso 14:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but if United Mexican States is the common rendering into English then it isn't really our business to "correct" it. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 15:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: United Mexican States

message: I rewrote the article and renamed it as "Political Divisions of Mexico" --Alonso 04:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New article

message: I fixed all the Baja California (state) redirects.
Baja California peninsula redirects to Baja California Peninsula. If someone finds the time, this should be fixed. JackSparrow Ninja 23:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect fixes 

message: How about importing the template used in es.Wikipedia for general information on Mexican states? The infobox doesn't provide a lot of general information the way it's set up now...  I'm thisclose to doing it myself, but I'm afraid I have been trying to understand how templates work for a while now, and quite honestly, I'm really confused.  If anyone can help with that, I can get to work on setting it up on each individual state entry.  Comments? Thoughts? --Enakarasuma 03:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it was decided some time ago that the special infobox for Mexican states was not really that useful (or that special) and it was better to use the general template instead anyway, to reduce maintenance. -- Rune.welsh | ταλκ 04:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh well, that sucks.  I thought it would provide a good deal of useful information, but I guess that gives me one less thing to do... Thanks for the reply! --Enakarasuma 18:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Here's an example.  It includes a lot more information, including elevation, HDI, time zones, etc., while the one used right now (as shown here) barely includes any information at all.  --Enakarasuma 01:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  General information template for Mexican States? 

message: The Campeche article shows a land area of 50,812 km²; this article shows 57,727 km². The Quintana Roo article shows a land area of 50,212 km²; this article shows 42,535 km². These are great and significant differences. Was there a big territorial shift? Which numbers are correct? Backspace 02:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Land area

message: Are the state legislatures bicameral (as in the USA) or unicameral (see spanish version of this page)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.78.17.162 (talk) 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  state legislatures 

message: I was just wondering if there are any references or links related with regionalizations of all the states within Mexico. jlog3000 (talk) 19:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regionalization of each and every state in Mexico 

message: I was searching for geographic and cultural regions of Mexico, but a search for "Regions of Mexico" redirected to here instead. I expected to get information analogous to what is found at "Regions of Canada" or "Regions of the United States".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.189.17 (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regions of Mexico 

message: Note the much clearer graphics proposed previously. The green-on-green graphics are OK for a historical article, since I believe the page for history of US states uses a similar color scheme for time snapshot maps, although that color scheme is also hard to see. The larger files contain helpful information which has to be linked twice to be legible.
On top of that, the previous article was replaced by one that has poorly translated English, possibly to line up with an article in Spanish Wikipedia. In that case, perhaps Spanish Wikipedia does not have a separate article showing the clearly demarcated Mexican States, as the main Mexico article does.
IIRC, Wikipedia has separate pages for the United States as states and the history of state formation in the United States, correct?
Propose creating a second page for (current) Mexican States with clear mappage (like the clearly demarcated state lines found on all US State pages -- any page on subsets of Mexico should use a map that has clearly demarcated state lines, just like the maps of US and Canada. In fact, that should go for pages that are about Mexico, just as you see in the main page for Mexico. The country is, after all, a federation of "United Mexican States", just like the US! 
Also note that this is the standard for many world maps, including globes -- large countries that are organized along federal or pseudo-federal lines, including US, Russia, China, and Mexico get the same treatment of showing the main internal state divisions. US should not be special in this regard. Yclept:Berr (talk) 13:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is about the history of Mexican states, not the current status. A page is needed for original article 

message: Rename to "States and territories of Mexico".
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories
Thangalin (talk) 00:09, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename Page 

message: Here is said Ecatepec de Morelos is the largest city of state of Mexico. However, List of cities in Mexico has Nezahualcóyotl, State of Mexico as #9 and "Ecatepec de Morelos" only #12. 85.217.45.223 (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  State of Mexico 

message: My (admittedly imperfect) understanding is that Mexico City is not a state, but rather co-incident with the Federal District.  So there are 31 states plus the Federal District.  As such, it would probably be appropriate to move Mexico City out of the main part of the table, or at least add a footnote indicating its non-statehood.  Rwessel (talk) 04:41, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of Mexico City in this list 

message: Mexico City ceased to be a Federal District.
Here are some links (in Spanish and English) about the change:
*http://news.yahoo.com/df-cdmx-mexico-city-changes-name-status-002032172.html
*http://eleconomista.com.mx/sociedad/2016/01/20/segundo-nacimiento-ciudad-mexico-adios-df
*http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1867015-mexico-df-ciudad-enrique-pena-nieto-estado
*http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/nacion/politica/2015/12/16/ahora-si-nace-la-ciudad-de-mexico
*http://www.excelsior.com.mx/comunidad/2016/01/30/1071990
*http://www.cnnexpansion.com/economia/2016/01/29/pena-nieto-promulga-la-reforma-politica-de-la-cdmx
*http://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5424565&fecha=05/02/2016
*http://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5424043&fecha=29/01/2016
Mistah B (talk) 06:18, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexico City no longer a Federal District 

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message: Really? Administrative divisions? Split out per WP:COATRACK--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: Do the regional groupings pictured by :File:Mexico regional map.png have names? It would be nice if the map showing them at least had the names of the states. -- Beland (talk) 07:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional groupings