Talk:List of Manchester United F.C. records and statistics

message: Alexander "Sandy" Bell is listed amongst the Top Ten non-UK players for appearences, but checking his profile, although born in SA, he played for Scotland.  Isn't the convention within Wikipedia that players are "counted" as the country they play for (for example, Owen Hargreaves)? Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 17:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it is. I guess that's my bad for not checking whether he actually played for Scotland or not. - PeeJay 18:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sandy Bell - South African? 

message: Both Sporting and Porto stated that the transfers of Nani and Anderson were higher that writen here. 
FC Porto communicated to CMVM (The Portuguese Securities Market Commission) that Anderson was sold for 30 million Euros (more or less 20 million pounds) and Sporting said that Nani was sold for 25,5 million Euros (around 15 million pounds). 
http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR13708.pdf
http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR13758.pdf
Real12345 22:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record transfer fees paid 

message: Possible revision to records here. Darkson (BOOM! An interception!) 15:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get it. – PeeJay 17:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearence record 

message: Firstly will someone change to table due the news that Charlton played one less that first thought?
:I don't think this will be updated for the time being. I mean, if it wasn't Charlton who played in that game against Bolton in January 1962, then who was it? Until we find that out, there's no way we can update the stats. – PeeJay 18:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. – PeeJay 18:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearence records 2

message: According to the BBC Pique's transfer fee was £5m, therefore breaking into the top 10 transfer fees received, esclipsing the £4m payed for Lee Sharpe.
:The reference says that it was "around £5m", which indicates that the true value of the transfer was not disclosed. Indeed, the ManUtd.com news story about this transfer makes no mention of a fee. Similarly, FC Barcelona's website also doesn't mention a fee. Therefore, we cannot say that the fee was definitely £5m. – PeeJay 17:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pique Transfer Fee

message: The consecutive league games scored in needs to be updated as the club went on a 36 league game scoring streak until the 0-0 draw with Villa on 22nd Nov 2008.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.173.185 (talk) 01:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Consecutive league games scored in

message: These categories are missing from the article - can anyone find out what they are? I think they deserve a place (certainly the unbeaten home record), as it tends to be one of the things trotted out in match commentary - how invincible a team are at home (see Chelsea's recent four-year unbeaten home record), and how effective they are away from home. 194.35.186.254 (talk) 08:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: D'oh - that was me, didn't realise I wasn't logged in. El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 08:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Longest unbeaten home and away runs

message: Peejay you've just undone all the table edits I was just making saying that "nationality is irrelevant" well for my money nationality is as relevant to the most appearences/goals tables as it is to all the transfer fee tables on the page. Besides it looked better with all the tables showing nationality and with nationality in a separate column (it's a seperate piece of information so should be displayed separately). It certainly would have been an improvement for the columns to all be sortable but never mind.
It's no wonder such a large percentage of the wikipedia edits are from such a small group of people. Other people try and contribute now and again and but are left wishing they hadn't bothered due to the dictatorial nature of the regular contributors.
--86.5.96.179 (talk) 23:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant to say is that nationality is not relevant enough for its own column. Furthermore, each list of transfers is already sorted by the relevant data and they are all short enough to see the majority of the rows all at the same time, so there is no need to make them sortable. – PeeJay 23:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Table edits (nationality)

message: Should we add ronaldos tranfer to real of 80m I no its not done yet but theres no chance of him not signing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alzzo (talk • contribs) 09:19, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh really? You know for a fact that Ronaldo's transfer to Real will definitely go through? Don't talk rubbish. The transfer will be listed when it goes through, and not before. – PeeJay 11:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Of course he wants to agree personal terms, but what if Real don't offer him as much money as he wants and they can't reach an agreement? And don't say I shouldn't say you talk rubbish; it's just an opinion. – PeeJay 17:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Who says the transfer was agreed to last year? There has been no indication that that is the case, at least not from outside the media. Furthermore, who's to say that Ronaldo's demands/Real's offer won't have changed in the last 12 months? We are in a global recession after all! – PeeJay 21:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: And you don't think Real Madrid might be telling porky pies? I highly doubt that there was a deal 
last summer, especially when Ronaldo himself said only a few weeks ago that he thought he would be staying at Man Utd next season. Anyway, Ronaldo's personal terms with Real have nothing to do with Man Utd, so there would be no need for Real to tell United if there was any change in their wage offer! – PeeJay 00:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

text: This conversation is completely irrelevant and I'm stopping it now. There are many reasons why the transfer might yet fall through. I'm not denying that the transfer is looking very likely at this time, but it's not yet confirmed and will not be listed in this article until such time that it is completed. – PeeJay 22:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Cristiano Ronaldo transfer

message: Rather than edit warring it would be more productive to have a discussion before someone gets blocked. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no doubt that, at one time, records showed that the attendance for United's game against Arsenal on 17 January 1948 was 83,260; in fact, it probably stated as such on the Manchester United stats site for quite some time. However, it appears that new information has come to light, and that the attendance for that game was actually 81,962. According to United's official stats site, the club's record attendance came at Maine Road against Bradford Park Avenue in the FA Cup on 29 January 1949, when 82,771 people watched the game. StretfordEnd.co.uk is extremely reliable when it comes to Manchester United stats, more so than the Football League's site or Citeh's site, and a website is much more easily updated than a book, so we really should stick with the Bradford PA attendance as the record. – PeeJay 11:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm surprised at your insistence that the 83,260 figure is the "correct" one, since we appear to have official sources on three different sides (The Football League, Man Utd and Man Citeh) claiming different amounts. Anyway, the 81,962 figure is used also by "Manchester United: The Complete Record" (2007) by Andrew Endlar, "Manchester United: The Complete Fact Book" (1999) by Michael Crick, "The Official Illustrated History of Manchester United" (2006) by Alex Murphy and "The Official Manchester United Illustrated Encyclopedia" (2001) by Adam Bostock et al. There are a couple of sources that use other figures, including 82,950 and 83,250, but those can be discounted. – PeeJay 12:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Jumping to a conclusion is the last thing we want to do. This is an area where one transcription error can easily get replicated elsewhere. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true. My other qualms with the figures other than 81,962 are that they are not as accurate. They all seem to be rounded to the nearest 10, whereas 81,962 is an exact figure. I'm not discounting the possibility that the actual attendance was a multiple of 10, but there is (effectively) a 1/10 chance of that happening at any given match, making it much more likely that the actual attendance would not end with a 0. Flimsy reasoning, I know, but this is where I'm coming from. – PeeJay 12:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For a figure ending in 000 or 00 maybe, but the amount of work saved by rounding by 1 significant figure would be tiny. If I get the chance this weekend, I might pop to Manchester Central Library and see what the newspapers of the time reported. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm not particularly fussed about whether the attendance gives United the league record or not; what I am concerned about is the accuracy of the facts given. As things stand, there are enough sources on both sides to make either figure potentially correct. For argument's sake, though, and to make Chelsea fans angry, we may as well go with 83,260. – PeeJay 13:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Yup, fair enough. In that case, I think I'd better get in touch with the guys at StretfordEnd.co.uk. – PeeJay 14:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, the guys at StretfordEnd.co.uk claim that the figure of 81,962 comes from official club records, but while I would prefer all of the Man Utd stats on Wikipedia to come from the same source, the figure of 83,260 is adequately sourced too. Anyway, let's consider this matter over with, and I apologise for my conduct. I don't suppose you have any info about North Road or Bank Street that could be added to those articles? – PeeJay 10:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record attendance 

message: I just added Ronaldo's details to the table regarding transfer deals but notice the values increase by descending order down, whereas other tables increase by ascending order.
It's all a bit confusing. You have to keep scrolling the page up and down to follow the details between separate tables 
I would have thought the logical way would be to have the largest value at the top, as Number one, with the dates descending.
Any thoughts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.125.59 (talk) 12:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: One set of tables is chronological (earliest at the top, latest at the bottom), and the other set is by transfer fee (largest at the top, smallest at the bottom). There's no need for a change. – PeeJay 19:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables order - going up or going down? 

message: I was just looking at all the stats and the largest wins for both 1st Division and Premier League are there but only the largest defeat is present for 1st Division, can someone put this in?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.224.102 (talk) 03:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If I could find a reference for United's record Premier League defeat, I would add it, but all I can find at the minute would probably push this into the realms of original research. – PeeJay 04:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest Premier League Defeat? 

message: This is clearly nonsense.
I know that's what soccerbase says, but what they really mean is "We don't get that data anymore".
This is the same for all clubs, eg Chelsea's figure is in 1995.
I haven't the time to remove from all teams manually.  Anyone got any thoughts?
MikesPlant (talk) 13:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All I can say is that I agree with you. It should be removed as those websites doesn't update those stats anymore. It's enough that 60,000 (out of 75,500) will come to see Crystal Palace in League Cup this season to pass that price. So 100% some game passed it already.   – HonorTheKing (talk) 16:53, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highest gate receipts: £576,494 v Southampton, FA Cup, 11 March 1996 

message: Should this be included with the individual awards?  It may have been established only a few years ago but it is sanctioned by the sport's governing body. VEOonefive 22:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I belive we should include it, as it is FIFA award.   – HonorTheKing (talk) 13:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cristiano Ronaldo - [[FIFA Puskás Award]] 

message: Now that Ruud vN has been knocked out of the top ten of all-time goalscorers, would it not be better to include someone that's actually listed on the page (it's a top 10, not a top 11!).
Not sure whether a pic of Bobby or a pic of an active player (Rooney) would be better? 86.186.85.218 (talk) 19:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Iv'e replaced it with Sir Bobby Charlton picture.   – HonorTheKing (talk) 12:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goalscorers and picture 

message: Would it be an idea to add clean-sheet-record for the club's goalkeepers? Anyone got any idea where to find such a fact? Grrahnbahr (talk) 21:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goalkeeper's record 

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message: This is supposed to be a page for Manchester United statistics but somehow you want to limit all the tables to the top 10? That makes no sense to me. I added all the goalscorers with at least 100 goals for the club and it was undone with the justification "top 10 is standard". Actually, it should be standard to have as much information as possible. I will happily add all goalscorers with at least 50 goals, if that's what you are complaining about. That should be the goal. As much statistics and information as possible. Top 10 is standard sounds like someone is too lazy to put some effort into the article and add more information. Tkotw12 (talk) 16:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top goalscorers 

message: Where is the top assist leaders? 70.55.213.229 (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Assists are a relatively new statistic, and not every stats organisation records them the same way. I don't think we have any reason to add them here. – PeeJay 12:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most assists 

message: Whoever keeps adding the Bangkok Century Cup to the club's list of honours, please give a good reason why it should be listed before adding it again. From my perspective, it's a friendly competition no bigger than any other pre-season tournament United have won. – PeeJay 07:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bangkok Century Cup