Talk:College rugby in the United States

message: I recently overhauled this article a bit, attempting to explain the division system a bit more and reel in a clear bias towards Cal (has dominated?)  The 'grassroots' section I am luke warm on.  On the one hand, it is worth mentioning that this is the 1st level of Rugby in the US.  Whereas on the other hand, it seems way to a subjective comentary.  Please help and contribute.
219.86.167.87 05:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot for your recent contributions!  I agree that the "grassroots" section might be worth tweaking (perhaps we could merge it into a "history of college rugby" section). hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I actually just noticed that the information in the "Grassroots" section was incorrect.  There are hundreds of youth and high school rugby teams in the US.  We could mention that most rugby players pick the game up at university (the IRB has stats on how many youth and collegiate players are in the US)  hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure that the 98% figure is correct.  The IRB tallies 16,000+ male teen rugby players in the US out of ~46,000 total male players.  Check this website out. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 08:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: 98% is not accurate. 70-80% is probably more accurate in my experience coaching college rugby, and the number shrinks each year as HS programs are added in the northeast US. The IRB figure is not particularly helpful, however, because college freshman and sophomores are 18 and 19 years old. Perhaps the better source of data would come from USAR's CIPP program.Surfidiot (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Divisions are very fluid, and their relative strength obviously depends a lot upon the re--gion--. Furthermore, I was not aware there was even a Divison III-- I was under the impression there were only National Championships for Divisions I & II, is this not the case?? Citation, please.Lmeister 23:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Division 3 & 4 rugby have existed in the northeast for many years.  Promotion and relegation rarely occurs for NCAAD3 schools, because schools are interested in maintaining the same college rivalries as other sports.Surfidiot (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Changes

message: Need reference for the following addition (alleged 1974 men's D1 championship by Texas A&M):
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Jeff in CA (talk) 22:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 1974?

message: If this article is intended to deal only with college rugby in the United States, perhaps it should be renamed to US college rugby, College rugby in the US, College rugby (US) or similar? WJBscribe (WJB talk) 00:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely good points, but there are two arguments for restricting to the US.  First of all, the US places more emphasis on college sports than other countries, to the point that college rugby may be the most popular level of rugby in the US.  Secondly, other English-speaking countries do not use the words "college" and "university" interchangeably like in the US.  I am not against changing the name/scope of the article, but there exists reason to keep the article as is.49giantsharks (talk) 04:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename?

message: I like the idea of this article but it is written pretty poorly, and I don't believe it follows the wikipedia methodology. It would be interesting if someone who actually knew the ins and outs of college rugby in the USA wrote it. Cheers198.173.149.130 00:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably due to availability of records online.  I remember seeing the national championships divided as such on CSTV's website long before Wikipedia was popular.49giantsharks (talk) 04:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Idea 

message: It has been suggested that this page be renamed/moved to College rugby in the United States.
Please add arguments for and against below.  Cheers Rugby monk (talk) 02:59, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Stevage, the topic has come up with other articles for college sports. "College [insert sport name]" seems to be an American athletics term as many other countries use "University [insert sport name]". In America English the words 'college' and 'university' generally can mean the same thing but in other countries the word 'university' is used for higher education institutions. Bhockey10 (talk) 00:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not detecting any momentum for re-naming this article.  If the name is going to stay the same, the tag is stale, and perhaps we should remove it? Barryjjoyce (talk) 02:08, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the tag.  The discussion has grown stale, 5 1/2 years after it was first proposed.Barryjjoyce (talk) 15:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: BYU was recently stripped of its 2015 Varsity Cup championship title due to using an ineligible player.  (reference: http://www.rugbytoday.com/college/varsity-cup-shuffle-byu-stripped-title ).  I wasn't sure how to format such a change or note, so I did not edit the article...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcbrc2 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited the section with the Varsity Cup winners to reflect the stripped title. Jeff in CA (talk) 04:43, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: Some editor keeps adding NEC to the list of men’s varsity programs. The NEC website lists rugby as a club sport, not varsity, I cannot find any source stating they are now or have committed to become a varsity program. I’ve said as much in my edit summaries when I have removed this info. But he keeps adding it back. Thoughts on how to proceed? CUA 27 (talk) 00:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEC 

message: There are a lot of annual results from various divisions, and these are getting quite lengthy. Should we restrict this page to listing annual results for Division 1 only? I don’t think most readers care about who was the Division 3 champion in say 2013 or any other year. CUA 27 (talk) 00:39, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, most readers don’t care about 99% of the content of Wikipedia and most encyclopedias. People care about what they care about, and encyclopedias provide that content. I oppose restricting the page content in this way. Jeff in CA (talk) 16:54, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results 

message: The section  is an almost word for word duplicate of . Does anyone object if I replace the text in that section with a link to the relevant article? Compare , which is far more readable. Shpowell (talk) 02:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would not favor this, as such replacement is unnecessary. Other than the list of annual results, it’s not word-for-word. And it’s convenient to have the information in both places.Jeff in CA (talk) 22:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacing championship results with link to relevant article