Talk:Rivington Pike

message: There are too many similar images in this article, will somebody please remove some of them.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are at present four, the first shows the hill, the second is a modern photograph of the Pike Tower followed by two earlier photographs both showing the Pike Tower at different times. One image I see was removed was a recent view of the Pike Tower however that did clearly show the level of errosion on the hill today, a subject the article has yet to touch upon along with Geology. This errosion has revealed some ancient flints, as noted by Dave Lane. Please discuss here. (Pennine rambler (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The article is about the Pike, not just the tower and the pictures are very similar. I removed one and rearranged them to improve the layout. Three is plenty. If you want erosion exchange it for one of the others.--J3Mrs (talk) 16:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I agree about the layout it does look better, my mention of the one removed was in fact in connection with the erosion on the hill, a subject that could go in geology later I was trying to explain to you why it was there in the first place. The change in appearance of the tower itself over time is of public interest, I do agree there only needs be one photo of the hill and one modern photo of the tower, retaining the two older photographs. Whichever modern photo is used it can be compared to the Edwardian one showing the different ground level, currently estimated to be around 3ft different. Is the geology in your field?
(Pennine rambler (talk) 18:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: There is a lot in this article not about the Pike, it especialy has a lot in it about Winter Hill, that should be in the other article. It contains lots of outdated info and a lot off subject.  --Pennine rambler (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Untrue, there is some context but the article is pretty focussed, only the festivals lacks a ref and the rest is referenced. The pike is of course part of Winter hill so there is bound to be an amount of overlap.--J3Mrs (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As per talk above have edited intro to reflect the above statement. I still think its history needs to be in one section, there are current events in the same section as past ones (Racing up there today would lead to prosecution). --Pennine rambler (talk) 11:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And I have made it less awkward. The history is in one section but you introduced a recent event which is now history albeit recent history.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I am glad we agree, my edits are in good faith, please don't make statements they are not (my talk page), we seem to have reached a consensus on this edit, maybe we can again on other articles where you and I edit.  I am aiming to improve and shorten some of the articles I created, hence my recent edits. --Pennine rambler (talk) 11:44, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

text: The information was already there! I just copyedited your awkward English. Another editor appears to have improved since. You are removing sourced info added by other editors not just what you added, remember pov--J3Mrs (talk) 13:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Winter Hill & Other areas

message: This should read as current:
It was held at the highest part of Georges Lane, close to the summit. The fair attracted people from Horwich, Chorley and further afield.[Rivington, Thomas Hampson, 1893] 
This is part of history:
During the 1830s there was an increase in drunken and riotous behaviour following the fair, which brought prompt and stern measures from the local authorities.  Two men from Bolton were charged with "Neglect of Divine Service", by selling on Rivington Pike on a Sunday.[Rivington - Thomas Hampson, 1983] The arrival of the Manchester and Bolton Railway's extension to Preston and opening of Blackrod railway station in 1841 brought more visitors which was sustained until the introduction of seaside excursions in about 1860, which led to decline in visitors.
In the early 20th century, car and motorcycle races were held up Rivington Pike. From 1906 to 1912, Bolton motorists witnessed the performance of cars and motor-cycles in the hands of some notable drivers of the day on the private roads of the Rivington estate. Under the auspices of the North-East Lancs Automobile Club and the Lancashire Motor-Cycle Club, the first of these hill-climb races took place on 25 July 1906. Competitors were limited to members of the club, and the race was divided into 10 classes according to the list price of the car. In 2011, 4x4 cars caused significant criminal damage to the in the Chinese gardens and around the pike. 
Music festivals and North Country fairs were held in the Chinese Gardens on the slope of the pike in the summers of 1976 and 1977 and locally named "flower power invasions". Bands included Body, John Peel favourites Tractor, The Damned and Here and Now. The 1976 Rivington Pike Music Festival inspired a group of Rochdale people to launch the Deeply Vale Festivals in mid September 1976.
Maybe a sub heading would solve that?
--Pennine rambler (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: too short for a sub section, best left--J3Mrs (talk) 13:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Is the hill or private or public lands?  Should add that to article. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 16:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The land is owned by Liverpool Corporation's successor, United Utilities. Added. J3Mrs (talk) 12:33, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who owns it?