Talk:Johann Nepomuk Hummel

message: What does this fragment mean?  Looking forward, Hummel stepped into modernity through pieces like his Sonata in F sharp minor, op. 81 and his Fantasy, op. 18 for piano. These pieces both overstep Romanticism, reaching into something closer to 20th century atonality, challenging the classical harmonic structures and breaking the sonata form.   I changed "breaking" to "stretching".  Can we have a reference for the atonality bit?  Op. 81 certainly doesn't sound very close to 20th century atonality to me!  I removed the clause from the article to here, pending explanation.  --RobertG ♬ talk 10:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd interpret "his perfection condemned him to oblivion" as saying that his classical ideas were considered old-fashioned in the romantic period, so his music was forgotten. Graham/pianoman87 talk 13:11, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

text: What I meant when I put the wikify tag on the article were that many of the external links needed descriptions. I was short of time, and was going to return to that later. Graham/pianoman87 talk 13:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The article makes Hummel sound quite advanced and radical: his mandolin concerto in G is throughly Mozartean nevertheless. --08:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: My recent copyedit

message: What does this actually mean? "The conspicuous lack of the symphony among Hummel's works may be explained by the fact that he was puzzled by Beethoven's innovations in that field."
:The fact that Hummel did not compose a symphony could be because he was puzzled (i.e. did not understand) what Beethoven was doing with the symphony. I wish I could word that less clumsily ... Graham87 10:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symphony 

message: I just created a new page to list the works of Hummel. A Wikipedia page is better than a PDF. Here is the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Johann_Nepomuk_Hummel . Make sure to contribute! - Gus (T, C) 2007-07-20 04:00Z 04:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hummel's Works Page 

message: The wording in this article is not clear, so I put a cleanup template on it. Also, he was renowned for being strikingly ugly. There is no mention of it in this article.--Filll 14:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article reads badly 

message: I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles.  This article is B-class; as others note above, its writing needs work, in addition to other things.  My review is on the comments page; questions or comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 02:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Composer project review

message: He was born in Pozsony (Pressburg), which was a city, the capital of the Kingdom of Hungary. And the Kingdom of Hungary was part of the Habsburg Monarchy at this time. So his place of birth is not mentined correctly, so i correct it. Toroko (talk) 12:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this make his nationailty Hungarian, Slovakian or Austrian? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth 

message: The article currently says: "In 1791 Joseph Haydn, who was in London at the same time as young Hummel, composed a sonata in A flat for Hummel, who gave its first performance in the Hanover Square Rooms in Haydn's presence." But this work does not appear to be listed at List of solo piano compositions by Joseph Haydn? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonata written by Mozart 

message: The article says "In 1791 Joseph Haydn, who was in London at the same time as young Hummel, composed a sonata in A flat for Hummel".  There were no A-flat solo piano sonatas composed by Haydn at this time.  Are they likely referring to the A-flat Piano Trio Hob. XV/14 from 1790?  See .  Sometimes the word "sonata" was used more loosely than it is today.  Can anyone confirm?  I think we should reword the text to either say piano trio, or parenthetically note that its a trio or add the Hoboken number.  Thanks.DavidRF (talk) 22:01, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: lol. I'm sure I was asking something very similar myself, quite recently. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hummel premiere of Haydn work in A flat 

message: Who indeed. According to the source he produced this image in about 1814, which resides at the Goethe-Museum, Düsseldorf. But I have been unable to find anyone by that name at de:wiki with dates that fit. Any ideas? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That this painter "Möller" was Joseph Willibrord Mähler has been published years ago.--Suessmayr~enwiki (talk) 09:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Do you have a source for the connection here? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:08, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  and who is Möller? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: That Hummel's father was "the conductor of Emanuel Schikaneder's theatre orchestra at the Theater auf der Wieden" is a piece of undocumented misinformation that one author copies from the other. Johann Hummel never worked at the Theater auf der Wieden.--Suessmayr~enwiki (talk) 09:58, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hummel's father 

message: For those of you who are interested in music history, I found this website by the name of The Hummel Project. Now what I've been  thinking of adding more information in this article regarding Hummel's life and his personality. Certainly, the website has way more info than this article. I can see that there is quite a number of info not put in the article. Maybe even key information on this composer that is present on another source not only talking about Johann Nepomuk Hummel. 
I was recently adding a section about his traits as a person. I got cut off in an edit conflict, and I later learned that large quotes, such as the one that I made in my edit are discouraged. But I did cite a reliable source, which was the aforementioned educational website about the composer. I now realize my mistakes and I will try to not do that again. My apologies. But I've really been wondering if editors should be adding more information to this article. After all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, right? As long as you cite a reliable and trustful source, info should be presented on the article. Thank you and please let me know what you think about it if you are reading this. Sir Clever (talk) 07:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As explained on your talk page: please better summarize what's said in the long quote, and don't just say in prose what the source is, but format it as an inline citation. Beginning is hard, sorry about the edit conflict. Please always start a paragraph at the beginning of a line, or stange things happen ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

text: Reference No. 2 is to the Hummel project, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hummel Project 

message: I added Hummel's sons Carl and Eduard, with links to the German Wikipedia pages. The subsequent changes made to the German Wikipedia links for Eduard Hummel have somehow broken the links.
:1) The link to the German Wikipedia page you used for Carl Hummel was unnecessary because there's a page for him here on the English Wikipedia.
:2) I modified your link to :de:Eduard Hummel to use , , where the "[de]" part links to the German article. This is how interwikilinks are properly implemented. It is documented at Template:Interlanguage link/doc and Help:Interlanguage links#Inline links. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:04, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hummel's son Eduard