Talk:+44 (band)

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:I agree. --Greedy 18:04, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The unicorn 

message: The new song song from plus 44 is rad it is on their website www.plus-44.com. I reccommend everyone to listen to it.
some kid: the song "no it isn't" seems like its directed toward tom because listen to the lyrics. Stuff like, "this isnt just goodbye, this is I can't stand you" or " in foriegn dressing rooms" when they had problems in europe. Also it says curse my enemies forever. it all makes sense. blink probobly broke up and cause of a fight and ened up hating eachother. just solve the fucking problem and get back together.
And the line "This is where the road crashed into the ocean", when blink went overseas to Europe to countinue the tour. The "road"=path, meaning their paths were "crashed" or destroyed when they went overseas and they went on their seperate ways.-Cory pratt
"...and burn down something beautiful" I think this is an important line, seems weird because both sides of the argument seem to recognise that that blink was something pretty cool, yet no one seems to want to take a step back to what once was.
--Patrick Gardner (too lazy to make an account)
Although it would seem as though the song is directed at Tom, Mark has said the song is in no way related to that. I would say he is lying but that is for someone else to decide... Brandonluvsapril (talk) 22:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No It isn't 

message: I don't know if it happens for everyone, but the picture of travis is covering up some text on my screen. does anyone know how to fix that?
also, i think Carol deserves a picture, as well. there a bunch of pictures at this site: http://www.ladyfesttx.org/2003/2003Fest/GetTheGirl/ . I would do this stuff if i knew how... Drewface 05:26, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm having that problem too (I'm using Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.1 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-AR; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060111 Firefox/1.5.0.1]).--Greedy 00:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: I'm sort of confused on which site is Plus-44's official site. Is it www.plus-44.com or www.plusfourtyfour.com? The former still has "No It Isn't" playing on the site, while the latter seems to be what most people reference when referring to the "official Plus-44 site." Any clarification on this would be greatly appreciated. Drewface 23:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website 

message: I'm afraid that the supposed title "Here We Go" was a Fool's day joke by the punkdisasters.com webmaster.
It's 100% fake.
Happy Fool's Day! --Zingazin 17:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Here We Go" 

message: I see a lot of people adding/removing Shane Gallagher from the list of members. Although it's not official yet, Mark Hoppus did mention "Shane Gallagher from Plus-44" in his 11th podcast. Should he be included or not? Please vote!
--MrPink 20:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Included--Zingazin 17:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

text: As of early 2006 Mark posted a bulletin saying Carol was still in the band. Who is Craig Fairbough? What are your sources?--MrPink 15:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, but that isn't an addmited source.--Zingazin 18:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th member? 

message: is the paragraph discussing the taglines really necessary considering there's that spiffy little chart thing at the bottom with them all listed?
71.225.248.138 02:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagline

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Ido50 17:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Who removed punk rock from the band's genre and why?-- Ido50 13:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There you go. It used to be there, but it wasn't anymore... weird.--GraafGeorge (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre specification

message: i think the arcticle should be moved to the +44 arcticle.
they changed their display name on myspace from (+44) to +44 and on MTV2 the when your heart stops beating video said +44 and not (+44).
and the album cover says +44.
so, it really should be moved.
:Maybe so, but the anonymous user that keeps doing this isn't doing an actual page move...they're just redirecting it to +44 and copying the page over. This means the history and talk page aren't transferred over. (See WP:MOVE for more info.) GrahameS 04:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, please sign your comments/messages with ~~~~. ~ EmeZxX ` 12:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please tell me an admin cleaned the history. I'm going to move it back. Moving pages can only be done by users; PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't copy and paste. -- Chrissperanza! chat edits</font> 05:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Jamdav86, please give reasons supporting the name being officially (+44). On their myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/plus44) their name is listed as +44 as well as is listed on their official homepage (http://www.plusfortyfour.com/), not to mention other sources which rarely list names incorrectly (e.g. iTunes Store). If you cannot provide  reasons, all text on the article will be changed to +44 and if you choose to go against sound reasoning beyond that an administrator will be blocking your account and/or IP address  brandon.macuser 00:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: It's definately (+44). It was named after the connection on the phone when they came up with the idea of the band. One of them was in London, and one was in LA, so he had to put in (+44) at the start of the number, that's why they're called that.--Bloberto 19:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: +44 vs (+44)

message: Are you guys sure this single hasn't charted in any charts?
~~ Pwnallicious ~~
go to www.billboard.com
then on the side of the page type (+44)
the when you get redirected on the top clik Artist chart history
then click singles
if it did it should tell youJimmypop1994 13:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  When your heart stops beating 

message: I propose that the article be put back to (+44) pending prolonged discussion of actual page name. --Jamdav86 20:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say go ahead and discuss where it should be, and then we can move it back if that seems necessary.  We don't really like to move things back just so we can talk about whether they should have been moved in the first place.  The best thing is to have the discussion, and then do whatever gets decided. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I suggest you list the page at WP:RM in the current dated section and follow the procedure there for setting up a move survey on this page.  That's the best way for getting moves done when it seems there's any disagreement, as in this case. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick move to previous name 

message: Does anyone have a picture of the band?  If not, we could move the cover art to the infobox until someone finds one. Nick.dilallo@gmail.com 05:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: I found this article and thought this was interesting.  I didn't want to just add it to the page. Since I can't copy it directly, here are a couple things I thought might be interesting- 
Blender called WYHSB one of the "Greatest Songs of 2006" 
The +44  exclusive AOL Music Sessions have been streamed over 315,000 times
Here is the link-
http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/interscope-recording-artist-44-joins/n20070206071609990027
69.255.146.142 21:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something to add? 

message: the song family reunion has 44 words in it, not counting "and."
isnt that song from Blink182's live album, and therefore, not +44? ItsNotLupus 04:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  family reunion 

message: I thought Mark doesn't drink?--69.113.131.124 22:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I'm scraped and sober,But there's no one listening" 

message: The current article lists Craig as rhythm guitarist, and Shane as lead (with no strict evidence)- however on one of the official video podcasts from their myspace page, Mark introduces each of them simply as guitarists - stating that they each take joint responsibility for the two positions. Which evidence should take presidence?Stuckster 12:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead / Rhythm Guitar? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:AOL MUSIC SESSION.JPG

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message: I changed a couple of things. First, the "No It Isn't" single was released in 2005, and secondly, there was a "Lycanthrope" 7" vinyl released, so I added that. Brian 02:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lycanthrope vinyl 

message: "The band's formation changed again early 2006, with the addition of guitarist Andrew Giacco who left shortly due to unknown reasons."
Can anyone confirm this? I'm a fan and I've never heard of this guy in any interviews. Brian 02:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew  Giacco? 

message: its a pretty well know fact that plus 44 was first conceived by mark Hoppus and Travis barker in London, england. they have personally stated that in various interviews. so shouldn't we change the origins to London, england instead of Los Angeles? i'm unsure of this topic myself, because i know that they're Americans......
I completely agree. Mark and Travis concieved the idea in London, England during blink's last UK tour. Brandonluvsapril (talk) 22:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  +44 origins 

message: Out of the bands the various members were originally in, I'd say only Blink 182 achieved a large amount of success. A couple of members being in a successful and well-known group does not make their new band a supergroup. If Alter Bridge are not a supergroup, which they are not considered as one on here (even with the level of success of Creed), then how can +44 be considered one? James25402 18:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can they really be called a Supergroup? 

message: When I used to edit this page it was admittedly a lot shorter, but it was definitely not as messy. What has happened to it? The tables are messy and there are sources which have simply been deleted but remain as empty references in the ref section. There are hidden notes throughout saying that it's being redone, but who is doing it? If someone is developing the page in their user sub-page, shouldn't there be a note of it on this page?
Seraphim Whipp 11:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What has happened to this page?

message: When you enter "+44" into the search box, what first comes up is the list of dialling codes, now that's annoying 194.46.248.185 14:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oh so we're +44 (band) now

message: This has to be in error....should it say, "working on their relationships with their wives"??? I'm pretty sure both Travis and Mark are married to females.  Correct?
:This was vandalism, I deleted it. There are just too much frustrated people out there who have nothing better (or more original) to do then put gay references on every band's page.GraafGeorge 21:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Workign on realtionships with their "husbands" ???? 

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message: "Unofficially released songs
Unreleased demos"
Is it just me, or is that just totally stupid. (contradicting). If they are unofficially released, that means that they have been released. But then it says they are 'Unreleased'. kiac (talk) 12:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficially released songs 

message: Can anyone verify Travis plays keyboards as well? Brandonluvsapril (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Travis on keyboards? 

message: I think that we should bring back the tagline chart.  They are pretty interesting facts, and played a somewhat important role in the time it took the website to become fully functional.  Anyone else agree? The last time I saw them was in June of 2006, but there could have been more recent ones.  Should I pull them back up? Any input is appreciated.  Zad27 (talk) 20:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taglines 

message: "The band name refers to the international dialing code of the United Kingdom, the country where Hoppus and Barker first discussed the project."
I can't imagine that the band name doesn't also refer, or is a BLINK or wink as we say in Holland, to the band name of SUM 41.
SUM is equivalent to PLUS and 44 is a number just like 41 so to me it means that sum adds 41 while plus adds 44 so it will be 3 higher in the charts than 41. Get it?? --Hanknosemans (talk) 23:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you ever graduated from elementary school? --Blaze7755 (talk) 18:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band name 

message: Marks interview on mtv suggests +44 is over. this should be mentioned. 
:the years active has been changed to 2005-2009 instead of 2005- present, this is one step  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.164.232 (talk) 07:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been no announcement - so they have not broken up. Until there is something official, we do not go around starting rumours. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 09:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The source is unclear whether it's a hiatus or a break-up. I wouldn't doubt that the band is broken up, I mean they haven't been active it seems since their album came out, but until we get an official word on it, the page should be left as it is. Fantasy Dragon (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Break Up??

message: Already mentioned here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%2B44_%28band%29#.2B44_origins)
Shouldn't the origins be London, England? DanielDPeterson (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins. 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

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