Talk:Microsoft Paint/Archive 1

message: I have the damned thing set to "200px" but it's still so huge! WTF?!  --NLUT
I think Microsoft should bundle GIMP with Windows.
:: Paint.NET is much better and will come on Longhorn. Mateusc 19:05, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe yes, and I guess it has something to do with the .PCX format not longer being supported by Paint since the days it was still called Paintbrush, as PCX is a Z-Soft proprietary format, essentially an RLE-encoded bitmap format EpiVictor 07:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resizing Jack 

message: In the magnafying option, click on 8x. Then if you click below it like one pixel more, you can magnify 10x.  Can we put that in this article?--198.147.225.76 00:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa yes! I didn't knew that! Put it there, man! ☢ Ҡieff | Talk 01:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright but under what? It's obviously not a feature.--TKGB 00:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool! Put it there! --seifip 18:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

text: First sign your comments(with '~~~~'). Second, click on the magnifying glass in the sidebar. BioTube 02:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

text: You have to click the magnifying glass. 71.131.176.42 01:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I discovered something 

message: This article mentions the SHIFT key to be used for the "Trail Mode" in the selection of the image but the SHIFT key has other functions:
*Select a shape tool (circle, rectangle, and Ellipse) and hold down shift to make a perfect shape.
*Select the line or curve and hold down shift to make a perfect line (though the curve will still be free to move around)
*Select pencil and hold down shift the draw a perfect line, though unlike the line, only one axis is available and you cannot shrink it once you draw it.
I'll add them to the article later but I'd have to clean it up first. --TKGB 00:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The SHIFT key 

message: Does the new Windows Vista will have a new version of Paint? MarioV 21:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New version? 

message: I miss the color replace tool, that was removed from the new version.
:Huh? Not it wasn't. The color replace tool is just the eraser used with the right mouse button. ☢ Ҡieff⌇↯
::It is possible, I tried to copy the win 3.1 files from the old computer to a directory on the new one, and it just worked :-) However, it is not without side effects: e.g. now the "normal" MS-Paint is unable to open files from the "open with..." menu. The only way this can be useful, is if you want to open .MSP or .PCX files (I remember on a real win 3.1 system, it could also open RLE and WMF) EpiVictor 15:13, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible to get hold of Paintbrush on WinXP, and use alongside MS Paint? 

message: does anybody else use this as their primary source of image creation?
i put a bunch my drawings on photobucket[], and i would like to see any one elses drawings...to take tips from.
:Nope, I use IRL tools like pencils, colors, paint and brushes... Shandristhe azylean 18:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  paint for drawings 

message: *Why does the article say that stamp mode is a hidden function not mentioned in the help file? I quote from the Windows XP Paint help file, under the heading "Work with Pictures", subheading "Copy or paste part of a picture": "You can paste multiple copies of an object by holding down CTRL while you drag the object to a new location. Repeat as needed."  Sure, it doesn't call it "stamp mode", but it certainly does document the feature. Right? --WillNL 22:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stamp mode a "hidden function"? Why? 

message: Is Paint really capable of opening SVG images if SVG Reader is installed?  Is this maybe a Vista thing?  I can't get this to work on XP.  J Ditalk 12:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Much of the introduction actually, implies that just by installing certain plugins/filters, MS-Paint can somehow automatically support more image formats. However, I have no idea to what extent this is true, and under which versions. From my experience: older (Win 3.1 and previous) versions "natively" support only BMP, PCX and MSP formats. Later versions have built in support for GIF and maybe JPEG (Windows 95 and beyond?), Windows XP and NT versions surely support the PNG format too (without objects and layers, just as a flat bitmap), and some other weird format may or may not appear depending on system settings, e.g. WMF, RLE etc. The PCX and MSP formats appear definitively dropped, however. EpiVictor 11:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SVG images 

message: I removed the link to Paint.NET, as it has no association with Microsoft Paint apart from happening to have a similar name. Jibjibjib 01:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paint.NET 

message: You can have 3 colours to paint with. Simply Ctrl + click a colour on the pallet to choose your third colour. Hold down ctrl while painting to paint with your "third colour"
124.178.71.202 13:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third colour 

message: Is Paint changes the interface for Windows Vista from Windows XP? — Jigs41793 Talk 13:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paint's UI in Windows Vista 

message: :Image:Vista Paint.png
:Image:Paint Vista.png
Which of the two images to the right do you prefer? I recently uploaded the first picture to go on Features new to Windows Vista; it was removed/orphaned recently. I then put it on Paint (software) because I honestly feel it is a better image, and it was reverted by the same user. Which of these do you, the other editors of this article, think does a better job of illustrating the program and its interface? In my opinion, the one I uploaded makes a better thumbnail because it focuses on the UI and has less "dead space." Opinions? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 03:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The new image is inconsistent with other screenshots of Windows Vista due to the wallpaper in the background; therefore, the old image is preferred. Themodernizer 23:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you cite a policy to this effect? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is also notable that the new screenshot is from a pre-release version of Vista, whereas the old screenshot is from the released version. Themodernizer 22:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly can't tell a difference. It looks the same to me. LaMenta3 22:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The menu and title bar styles are slightly different. Themodernizer 00:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Image 

message: No need to use Windows Vista Paint as the first image. It's already on the page under "Versions". Replay7 18:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop promoting your image. You already violated the Three Revert Rule you are already aware of, a report has been filed. This edit contradicts your claims. — Kieff | Talk 21:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've deleted the "drawing" - a bunch of random scrawls - as patent nonsense. Sandstein 21:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. — Kieff | Talk 21:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: This option did exist for me but now it doesn't. I'm running full Aero display with full 32-bit depth colour so I can't understand why the option has suddenly disappeared. Any ideas?
86.148.108.242 (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draw Smooth Shapes 

message: Is it possible to download it off the net? I know it's possible for windows 95, but I haven't been able to find anything for XP... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kooolcow (talk • contribs) 01:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven't been looking in the right places - I don't think they're discussed here.    — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  If paint.exe was deleted... 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mspaintvista.png

message: At one time you could buy Microsoft Paintbrush for DOS by itself; it was even bundled along with the Microsoft Mouse at one time. --Edwin Herdman 19:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former names for Paint 

message: See when you use the Line tool while you hold down the Shift key, you can draw "straight" lines. horizontal, vertical, and diagonal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PNiddy (talk • contribs).
: That's not really a secret- it's quite well-known. Sorry :-) Fourohfour 19:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not to me! 99.230.152.143 01:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another MS Paint Secret. 

message: When I click "just to the right" of the small brush in Vista's paint, I get an "insufficient memory" error message. So maybe it was a memory bug in the XP version which couldn't repro in Vista because of the improved memory error handling? 80.176.249.204 18:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I managed to reproduce the effect on XP by selecting right next to the smallest square brush size, rather than the round one, in other words on the second line... I think it just has to lose focus. If I select to the right of the round one, I get the same error. Doing the same for the diagonal brushes does the same, but the line is thinner. All in all the easter egg is quite dumb and quite possibly buggy.--Lionelbrits 03:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Strange Brush" - Now a bug in Vista 

message: Here's a glitch I found back in around 2003 with the XP version of Paint (might happen with other versions as well). Make an image zoomed enough for the scroll bars to show, then use the Color Eraser tool (hold the right button instead of the left) to turn a matching foreground color chosen in your palette, to the background color also chosen in your palette (e.g. a black foreground color with a white 'eraser' will turn all black parts of the image white while holding the right button). If you happen to go across a scroll bar and let go of the mouse button, a menu pops up asking you if you want to scroll here. Upon closing the menu, the eraser continues to erase the color underneath the cursor without holding the button, and this 'automatic' color erasing cannot be undone since it hasn't tracked a mouse click since the scroll bar menu popped up; however, the Undo command will still undo your previous work up to when you clicked on the scroll bar, leaving the mess which the auto-erase left. The only way to stop the eraser from inadvertently removing more color data is to either click the mouse again or press the Escape key after closing the menu. 123.243.99.227 (talk) 03:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color Eraser glitch 

message: Can I place a photo edit here? Mallerd 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo edit 

message: I moved the color box somehow. How do I get it back over there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.15.231 (talk) 00:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color box moving

message: http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/racooon/th_Wikipediafinish.png
I made this picture of the Wikipedia Globe using Paint. I don't know how to upload images though, so feel free to save a copy and upload it. Racooon 08:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This should probably belong to WikiMedia Commons and should be appropriately licensed parallel to the main WikiPedia logo. -Mardus 16:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add that image there ASAP.--Megamanfan3 (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. It is found here  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamanfan3 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiPaint! 

message: Paint being the ephemeral default drawing program for oft-vilified Windows operating systems has gotten a telling nickname — that of MsPain :-) — http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=349765&cid=21254307
-Mardus 16:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

message: I'm a longtime user of MS paint and I wondered if anyone thought It'd be a good idea to make 2 tables of the default pallet colours in MS Paint before Vista and in Vista. I'll go through and grab the Hex codes if someone wants. I'm not sure how to do the table though. --The Lone Bard (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vista Updates 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Painttoolboxvista.png

message: I seem to remember using a Dos version of MS Paint on an Amstrad XT.. is this older or newer than the windows 1.0 version?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.88.45.5 (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, but do you have proof? We cannot add that information until there is valid proof that there might be a DOS version of MS Paint.--Megamanfan3 (talk) 13:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am holding in my hand "Microsoft Mouse & Microsoft Paintbrush : Paintbrush; Setup & Utilities; For DOS Systems" Copyright 1986-1991 ZSoft and Microsoft. I don't know that this counts but the article said it was renamed from said name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.183.158.176 (talk) 20:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dos Version? 

message: It is said in the introduction of this article that almost all versions of Windows have had the Paint software built in to the operating system. I think all of them had Paint, so we should remove the word "almost". If I'm wrong, just ignore what I said here, but I strongly believe there was no version of Microsoft Windows without it.
:Of all of the Windows OSes I've seen or used, all of them had Paint included as a standard.--Megamanfan3 (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Windows Mobile? It may seem like nitpicking, but it was named "Windows", and I don't remember any Paint on my mobile phone... --BjKa (talk) 12:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not aware of any version of Windows that has Paint built into the OS.  But probably every desktop version has had it as an application included in the OS package. — Smjg (talk) 22:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which version of MS Windows didn't have the paint software? 

message: I removed :Image:Paint.gif from the article, since it's unnecessary and distracting.  It's also poorly named.
I also feel that this page is starting to be used as a place for people to showcase their own creations, and removing this image should hopefully provide a precedent to discourage future additions. CountingPine (talk) 23:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed image from article 

message: can u please tell me in points that what are the applications of ms-paint.i have to make a powerpoint presentation on the topic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.157.92.20 (talk) 14:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  applications of paint programme 

message: I recently got a new laptop, which came with Vista. I've been using Paint for editing sprites, and the colour replacement feature (right-clicking with the eraser) has gotten quite handy.... But it doesn't seem to be working on Vista. Any help?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.50.117 (talk) 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour Replacement In Vista 

message: The article refers to a zoom slider in the Vista version. Is this correct? Where's the slider? Actually, I think the article has Vista confused with Windows 7, which does have slider, according to http://www.online-tech-tips.com/windows-7/windows-7-first-look-ms-paint/Gerry246 (talk) 07:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zoom slider in Vista 

message: Is there an equivalent program of MS Paint on Apple computers? 72.209.42.92 (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apple equivalent? 

message: Could someone add the name of the executable to the Infobox please? (I don't know the name, don't have Windows...)   － Cy21(talk)  13:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox: Name of executable missing 

message: Paint brush was for many people the first introduction to drawing and painting directly into a computer image file and quite a few artist found the color erase function useful for creating layout lines in a selected color that could then be erased or blended into the finished drawing.  An additional application of the function was to remove red eye from photographs by simply setting the erased color to red and the back ground color to black.
Though the modification to the color erase function from paint brush to paint was minor the change was not noted coherently in the help files, the apparent loss of function in this particularly useful tool produced a great many hard feelings and drove a substantial number of artists to purchase more "Serious" software, often with only approximately similar capabilities.
71.56.255.218 (talk) 03:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  color erase 

message: MS Paint in win7 will +not+ let you save transparency info in PNG files. Apparently it still can only save to 24-bit PNG files which lack alpha channel info. There are no tools within paint7 to set transparency anyhow.
I have edited the main article to correct misleading paragraph that said "can view and save transparent PNG" with "can view but not save".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.216.82 (talk) 02:25, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  PNG transparency in win7 paint 

message: Trick Question can paint make animations using the gif format?~74.163.16.27~-Tailsman67 of Sonic News Network and others  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.16.27 (talk) 00:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trick Question 

message: The information on pre-Win95 Paint/Paintbrush was hopelessly mixed up; I've just corrected it.  At least, I assume Paint under Windows 1 used MSP format – my first experience of Windows was version 2.03.  PCX and BMP were both added in 3.0.  But I forget when exactly MSP and PCX were dropped – can anyone enlighten?  (Indeed, did the Win95 version natively support any format other than BMP/DIB?)
It would be nice to see more detailed information on file format support as it progressed through the history of Paint/Paintbrush.  Something like this:
   	1.0   	2.0   	3.0   	95        	XP
MSP	Native	Native	Native	          	
BMP	      	      	Native	Native    	Native
PCX	      	      	Native	          	
GIF	      	      	      	Via filter	Native
Of course, this is only an example of both the data itself and the format of presentation, but it shows the level of information it would be nice to have in the article.  (Of course, it should also be noted if a given version can open but not save a given format.) — Smjg (talk) 23:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline of file format support 

message: I use MSPaint XP a lot. Sometimes I'm annoyed by its inability to zoom out, to get an overwiew of a picture which is bigger than the window. Has this been fixed in the Vista or Win7 versions? Maybe worth mentioning in the article? --BjKa (talk) 12:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zoom out 

message: Is there still Paint in Windows 8, and if there is, why isn't there any information about it? Llightex (talk) 00:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows 8? 

message: "File," "Edit," "Tool," "Help," etc. are all missing. I clicked something and now my ribbon is all screwed up. How do I fix it? And yes, before anyone asks, I DID try Google. None of my search results turned up anything even remotely related (typical). Josh (talk) 06:42, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A screenshot of the issue would be nice, either that, or a better description of what you are experiencing. (67.58.241.6 (talk) 02:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: My ribbon is messed up

message: In the Features section, particularly in the Windows 7 subsection, it merely expands every menu with a cryptic description. Can't we condense the important features into a paragraph? Currently it takes up a lot of space and only two of the three columns allotted for it. 94.222.101.42 (talk) 11:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are all the menus really necessary? 

message: What kind of paint brush is depicted on the logo for MS Paint? -- Bevo (talk) 16:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think now that it is called a "mop brush" - http://www.utrechtart.com/Wash---Mop-Brushes-Watercolor-Brushes1.utrecht -- Bevo (talk) 01:57, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  the logo image for MS Paint 

message: Under the History section, the different releases of MS Paint should include the program version numbers to help distinguish them from each other.
I've confirmed that Windows 7 uses Paint v6.1. I would appreciate it if other users could help check Paint's version number for other versions of Windows. (The specific version number can be found on the "About Paint" window.)
--Stevoisiak (talk) 17:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Paint does not have a version number of its own; it always displays the Windows version number. Windows 7's version number is NT 6.1. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 04:23, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Including specific version numbers