Talk:Natalism

message: I dont see any reference to "Quiverfull" in the New York Times article, just "Natalism". Are these two distinct concepts, or one concept and the should be merged? -- 08:51, 7 January 2007 User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )
:Quiverfull is a specifically religious concept in certain Protestant circles, while Natalism is a broader general term without necessary religious connotations (certainly Ceaucescu was not motivated by religion when he outlawed abortion in Rumania to increase the birth rate). AnonMoos 18:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see the problem now -- this article says he talks about Quiverfull, but he doesn't actually mention it by name. OK, that has to be fixed... AnonMoos 22:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Quiverfull did not really have its name at that time. No movement gets its name at the outset.  The connection between Brooks's article and Quiverfull was made most notably in The Nation article on Quiverfull: http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20061127&s=joyce CyberAnth 01:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quiverfull 

message: Any worthwhile content from the unreferenced article Fecundism should be merged into this article.  Natalism has several times the number of google hits that fecundism does. Zodon (talk) 03:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree... AnonMoos (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: i agree, since the two are very similar. why not merge the two and/or make the other a redirect to here? :o| TheTechieGeek63 (talk) 07:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Mikael Häggström (talk) 11:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge fecundism 

message: I think this article should be moved to pronatalism, which would give parallel structure to its opposite member antinatalism.  (An alternative would be to cover both pronatalism and antinatalism in one article under natalism.)  Zodon (talk) 05:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think it's acceptable as it is, because external sources ( & ) define natalism as pro-birth, and hold it synonymous with pro-natalism. A google search finds natalism as more commonly used than pronatalism (even when excluding "natalism" usage in "pro-natalism"), so I think it can remain. It is still possible to merge antinatalism into it, but that's a separate issue. Mikael Häggström (talk) 02:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree... AnonMoos (talk) 06:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose move to pronatalism 

message: Is the Catholic Church really natalist? Unlike the Mormons, who teach "that God’s commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force," Catholicism teaches that "Be fruitful and multiply" (Gen. 1:28) no longer binds today, because the world is sufficiently populated. In other words, Catholicism does not force all its adherents to marry and have children, which is obvious because the Catholic priesthood is celibate. --Geremia (talk) 16:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the Catholic Church really natalist? 

message: *The below pages should have a natalism category link as they have a natalist award on the page.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders,_decorations_and_medals_of_Albania  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenixkil (talk • contribs) 12:18, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Natalism awards

message: I want to add a section in this article on the failures of natalist policies. Does anyone have sources on it? To my knowledge no country has managed to reverse a declining fertility rate Immanuelle  (please tag me) 13:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Romania may have done so for a while, using dictatorial methods (see Demographic history of Romania, Decree 770 etc), but at a huge price (large numbers of children in horrible orphanages etc). AnonMoos (talk) 04:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failure of natalist policies 

message: Shouldn't there be a section about antinatalism criticizing Natalism? To me it almost seems like there's a clear bias, wikipedia is fine with critiquing antinatalism but so long as it isn't people's main beliefs, that being life is precious, isn't being criticised, wikipedia doesn't care. 206.83.122.208 (talk) 03:03, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of Natalism 

message: I am surprised there is no talk about the low birth rate in South Korea? Frenchfriesaredelicious (talk) 08:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an intresting article tying the low birth rate to pro- (and anti-) natalism  policies in SK: . Викидим (talk) 01:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

text: Here is a great article that just came out on the subject Here. Frenchfriesaredelicious (talk) 09:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: South Korea

message: ...the actual meaning seems to be unrelated to childbirth. Rather it's a sociopolitical idea stating that institutions like school and work tend to reproduce (pass on) existing social inequalities. Equinox ◑ 22:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to be a correct statement, although most researchers appear to prefer the term social reproductionism. This is a Marxist concept; we have an article Social reproduction. Unless there will be objections, someone will need change/create the redirects above to point to Social reproduction. Викидим (talk) 00:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Pinging . Викидим (talk) 23:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[reproductionism]]" redirects here, but...