Talk:Joint Security Area

message: I decided to create the 'Unit History (UNC)' in case information ever becomes available on the history of the KPA contingent, at which time it will be easy to create a 'Unit History (KPA)' section.
wbfergus 18:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Breakouts 

message: Are the ROKA soldiers at the JSA really part of the KATUSA program or do they simply work alongside American soldiers?  Several references in this article indicate they are all KATUSA. There are plenty of ROKA soldiers at the JSA wearing their own uniforms.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.116.202.5 (talk) 12:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  KATUSA 

message: The lead is way too long. I was going to snip it off, but I realised that you could not easily do so, as it has mixed material. Can some of the regulars do it? Loath to add another project to my long list. Ingolfson 10:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've struggled with that as well, but as you commented on, it's fairly difficult. In it's defense though, there are may other articles that I ran across with similarly sized leads. I think the part about the current commander can be moved to a lower section, but most of the rest I feel kind of "needs" to be there to cover the synopsis. wbfergus 10:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead

message: It's spelled Panmunjeom.  This correction should be made throughout the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dblecros (talk • contribs) 09:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The superfluous E is needed only ion the South. The North Korean Romanization system does not use the E.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.86.162 (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panmunjom? 

message: Seems like maybe some contributor is living in the past.  Can't we get an up to date picture to lead off?
Just wondering, but hell, I never was the brightest bulb on the circuit....or a "moose run" driver either....
Cheers,
76.121.33.65 (talk) 10:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just exactly why, in the name of all that is holy, is the lead picture from 1976? 

message: As a matter of curiosity, what became of Vasily Matusak, the Russian who defected across the JSA in 1984?
Muzilon (talk) 09:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the Russian defector? 

message: I saw this place from TV. I wonder if the guards of the two sides stare at each other's face everyday without talking? I also saw a meeting room with two doors leading to each side. Do those doors have special design? 111.251.197.25 (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Do guards stare at each other?

message: I noticed several references to concepts such as "ROK", "ROKA", "CPV", "KATUSA", "Lt. Bulldog", etc., which didn't seem to me to be adequately introduced, explained, or put in context.  In general, my impression is that the article should probably be gone over by one or more editors who are not intimately familiar with the subject.  Some abbreviations may not be really necessary throughout the article — e.g., I suspect most uses of "ROK" could safely be rewritten as "South Korea".  I may try to take some time to work on the article myself.  Richwales (talk) 19:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insider references need cleaning up? 

message: I think "JSA" is confused with the forces guarding it from the south side at some places in this article:
The beginning of paragraph 4 states: "Originally established as a U.S. Army organization, the JSA quickly incorporated ROK soldiers ...". I'm sure the Joint Security Area (JSA), as the abbreviation was introduced in this article, was never a US Army organisation. It is the patch of land under the special rule of the armistice agreement, partially controlled by the UN-side (including US). I guess, soldiers serving in the UNC forces guarding the JSA (as heard today, the current name seems to be "United Nations Command Security Battalion - Joint Security Area") also call their unit shortly "JSA", and I guess further that "JSA" in the 4th paragraph was used in this sense. 
A similar problem occurs for the section "Composition and duties": It is NOT about composition and duties of the Joint Security Area, but (mainly) of the composition, history and duties of the "United Nations Command Security Battalion - Joint Security Area". In addition, it has some sentences on the appearance of the North Korean Guards as well. 
Suggestions:
# Delete paragraph 4, since its information is repeated (in a better form and in a better place) in the "Composition and duties" section anyway (or merge it in there, if you think something is missing). 
# Re-organize Section "Composition and Duties" in the following way: 
:* New 2nd level heading "Forces in the Joint Security Area"
:* Insert "The Joint Security Area is guarded by military police forces of the United Nations Command and of the Peoples Republic of Korea army, respectively. Under most conditions, both forces are restricted to their side of the Military Demarcation Line. They face each other in spaces between the blue meeting houses, ... " then continue with the remaining part of the last paragraph of the current "Composition and Duties" section.
:* Change "Composition and Duties" to "UNC Forces" and make it a 3rd level heading (i.e. make it  a sub-section of "Forces in the JSA".
Puh, I hope that's understandable. ;-) However, I wanted to put it up for discussion first before I change it myself, since I'm no expert in this field. 
One last remark in the same line: The picture of the One-hole golf course in the gallery does not belong to JSA, but to Camp Bonifas (which is -- although stated otherwise in the Camp Bonifas article -- definitely not inside the JSA).
220.85.21.195 (talk) 15:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "JSA" vs. "United Nations Command Forces in the JSA" (or similar) 

message: The Armistice which ended the fighting was signed by the UNC commander, KPA commander, and Chinese PA cdr.  SK did not sign.  The agreement itself refers to future discussions to take place between the governments (not military forces).  These discussion do not take place.  The article on the UNC (korea) says ROK forces put themselves under the command of UNC (although this does not have a reference or support).  In any event, it does not matter that the governments of SK & NK remain "technically" at war because the military forces of the goverments are not (albeit) they do have clashes.  In any event, the portion I deleted re the status of the war does not have direct impact on this article (other than muddying the waters should it remain.)  Best to leave it out as a POV problem.--S. Rich (talk) 04:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  armistice reference 

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thread_title: File:New and old CP2.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: What shit is this?
Wiki should be encyclopedia and not propaganda pamflet.
: That is not shit.Phd8511 (talk) 13:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  so that neither one can defect.????? 

message: That the DPRK has declared the ceasefire agreement over?Phd8511 (talk) 13:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: * WP:NOT#NEWS – S. Rich (talk) 14:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Why don't you look are see how many other Wikipedia article are news articles. Especially the main page!Phd8511 (talk) 00:13, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The link to NOTNEWS simply provides the guidance that WP follows.  This stuff from nK is not much different that what we've seen before – many, many times. For example, see . Please note that it is their official news agency which puts out these various statements about the cease-fire, sacred war, etc. If war did break out, the sK and the UNC would be wise to invite the nK troops into Seoul where the poor troops would see the lavish prosperity that capitalism has produced. They'd quickly drop their weapons and enjoy some actual wholesome meals. (Which is why nK won't invade. Their own army would quickly desert.) In any event, the particular recent "declaration" has little to do with the JSA. (Now if they actually attack and the JSA gets overrun, then that will be pertinent.) And, yes, lots of other WP articles are "news stories". Just because there are other such stories does not justify deviation from guidelines in this case.  – S. Rich (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any updates now 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think the minimum height has been raised to 5'9 as South Koreans are now taller than they used to be. I doubt it is still as low as the 5'6 in the article. --Elmeter (talk) 12:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Joint Security Area]]