Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Križevci

message: : See also Ustase, Ante Pavelic, Catholic Church and Politics
Oh, give me a break! This is incredible. First of all, only the first link exists. Secondly, to primarily associate them with a bunch of fascists is both ridiculous and offensive. I know that the idea of a clerofascist conspiracy is intriguing, but it's also entirely bonkers. The one working link, Ustase, is a page full of vicious insinuatious and at times outright lies. The Catholic Church is certainly no angel (sic), but the Greater-Serbian propaganda just goes way too far in demonizing it. And the reason why they do it should be obvious from the fact that the Croat Bishop Conference has a list of 1426 (!) church objects destroyed by the Serbs during their war against Croatia in the early 1990s ().
Correcting all these malicious fallacies on Wikipedia is proving to be a harrowing task. --Shallot 15:46, 10 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: See also links

message: Shallot, I am objecting to your term of the "Croat Catholic Church" of the Eastern Rite. There is no such thing, there does exist however a Uniate/Greek-Catholic/Eastern Rite Catholic Church under the bishopric of Krizevci but it is not Croat, its faithful are made up mostly of formerly Orthodox Serbs who were Uniatized following the 17th century, by the Marca Union of the Zumberak Serbs. It also includes some Ruthenian faithful. It does not use the Glagolithic alphabet. This page makes it quite clear, it is an official Vatican link  -- Igor 7:25, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not my term, I didn't create the page. Go ahead and rename it. --Shallot 11:13, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: FWIW, I renamed it now. --Shallot 10:37, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page's title

message: : Today the eparchy includes between 50,000 and 77,000 Byzantine Catholics. However the last census in the Republic of Croatia, in 2001, listed only 6219 Greek-Catholics. This is owing to the fact that many have converted to Roman Catholicism outright. This might explain complaints by some Serb Greek Catholics that they were christened according to the Latin Rite against their will or knowledge. 
I've removed the latter sentence because I don't see how this it makes any sense. Should it get restored, it needs to be rephrased to be relevant and attributed. --Joy [shallot] 13:05, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  christening 

message: The Zagreb county census data includes a handful of places where ethnic Serbs are numerous, mostly cities, and no places actually in Žumberak with more than a hundred ethnic Serbs, so I'm not sure if we have a disparity in toponyms here or something like that. Križevci is about a hundred kilometers northeast from Žumberak. --Joy [shallot] 13:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Žumberak 

message: I object to this rational that the Rusyn people in the Balkans be referred to as Ukrainians and wish to have it removed if no one objects. Idiszero 16:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Rusyns and/or Ukrainians 

message: 1. Moved. This isn't an eparchy but a Catholic Diocese with Byzantine rites. Sigh. Benkenobi18 (talk) 08:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many, many problems here