Talk:Lists of punk bands

message: This is a really terrible way to organize the list.  Can somebody switch this to organize it by nationality first and alphabetically under that?  Deleuze 09:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Organization

message: ...Since when did Fall Out Boy become "punk" aye?
Britney Spears is more punk than Fall Out Boy will ever be. And Simple Plan only counts as a "punk" band if you are 10 years old and don't know any better. Also, Operation Ivy were Ska.
This band does not belong on this list, so please do not add them. They should go on the pop punk list instead.Crescentia 17:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fall Out Boy

message: Operation Ivy and most third-wave ska bands need to be mentioned here. A lot of ska bands from that era have a punk aesthetic to their music and the influence and the crossover is not difficult to hear. One could argue this page to be an ambiguous list of bands related to the punk genre in some way and should include bands of different styles regardless of whether they are "punk enough". There should be links to other lists that tackle the different sub-genres (i.e. Hardcore, Crust Punk, etc.) at the bottom of the page. 
This list needs to be seriously cleaned up. There are a lot of bands that have no page and are not notable enough to warrant their own page, so they need not be listed here. Off to the side of the some of the bands, there is a listing of their activity (i.e. 1987-present). That should not be listed on the list itself and should be saved for the band's page. Some thoughts maybe?
ZAchAtTacK 12:05pm, 16 May 2007
*If you only mean ska punk bands, then yes, they can be added here, because by definition they are a form of punk (and most ska punk bands are closer to punk & hardcore than they are to ska anyway). If a band has been described as some version of punk, then they can be added here, since the title is not specific. I agree with deleting any band that doesn't have its own Wikipedia article, and deleting the years next to band names. The dates of their activities belongs in their own articles, not here. I started that cleanup about a week ago, and I see that others have continued that. All that still needs to be done is alphabetize the band names. Another problem was that someone originally listed some band names in the form of Bandname, The, which is not the way things are done on Wikipedia. Another issue was that there were some individual people listed, but the title only mentions bands, so the list should conform to that. I don't see anything wrong with adding a See Also section with links to other related lists, so go ahead and add them if you want. Spylab 10:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

message: This band is not punk.  They may use elements of it, but otherwise, just alternative rock with 70s influences.  128.205.153.171 15:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who would include them here? That really takes the cake.Crescentia 03:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

text: its a bit weird to edit this two years after it was finnished, but I agree, Yet, they're still on the list. I just really dont here any trace of punk in their music. I want them off the list. Filthy little weasel (talk) 07:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Chemical Romance 

message: This list is redundant with the pages List of musicians in the first wave of punk music and List of musicians in the second wave of punk music, which are in the Punk Template. Something needs to be redirected or deleted. WesleyDodds 01:34, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major problem 

message: There are a lot of bands on here who barely have any info on them in Wiki. A good way to clean this page would be to exclude all bands who have no or barely any info on themselves. Less than a paragraph of info should not be considered a Wiki article. If a band has been influential in the movement or is important enough then they should have a longer article. This same method has worked on the gothic rock band page. Also, radio friendly pop bands disguised as punk outfits do not belong here. Pop punk ought to have it's own list.Crescentia 00:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a list of pop punk bands right here.  Rudie482 04:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha! I didn't see that!That's a good thing. :-)Crescentia 13:40, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am going to clean up this page... 

message: Both of those genres really don't fall into the punk catergory. Pop punk is most often commercialised and goes against what the punk ethos originally stood for: originality and going against 'the system' in some manner.. Metalcore, on the other hand, is more influenced by metal than punk itself. If a layman were to listen to it they would think that it was straight up metal. There are, of course, some punk bands, such as Suicidal Tendencies, who turned more and more metal as the years passed on, but in the end they were originally punk bands.Crescentia 03:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found out that pop punk already has own list.Crescentia 13:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop punk and Metalcore need their own lists..... 

message: Please stop adding bands that do not have a Wiki article. Also, bands that have only a small paragraph of information about themselves should not be included. At the top of the article for this subject it says notable bands. A band should not be considered notable if it does not have a Wiki link, or if their article barely has any information.Crescentia 14:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do NOT add bands that do not have a Wiki article 

message: From a musical standpoint this band sounds totally pop punk and should go on that list instead.Crescentia 15:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop adding Rise Against... 

message: do the article like this [] far cleaner and less long. METALFREAK04 20:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally preferred the old layout, I think it was easier to read. Rudie482 01:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advise 

message: I will and some helpers will do flags for all of these bands here. nick them off the link i gave you last time up ther^^. any volenteers? METALFREAK04 19:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll start working on it but I can't promise how far I'll get before I get bored. Rudie482 22:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: So I started working on it and everything's definitely gonna need to be reformatted when it's done. Rudie482 22:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion all those flag templates make the whole page sluggish and squirrely. I've got a high-speed cable connection, and it still takes this page way too long to load, and then it's more difficult than it should be to scroll through it. The flags are pretty, but I think the icons should be changed to plaintext country abbreviations to make the list more accessible and usable. Consult this page: Wikipedia:Avoid template creep, which encourages the removal of "inappropriate, excessive, or trivial inclusions of otherwise worthy templates" --ShelfSkewed Talk 23:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: A proposal to alleviate the problem: Sort the bands by country first, then alphabetically. A single flag icon per country is then all that's needed.--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags 

message: This band seems to have the wrong flag in front of its name. It's supposed to be Belgian, not British. Can anyone fix this?
~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.142.42 (talk) 15:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: fixed it--Jac16888 (talk) 15:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Funeral Dress 

message: Sonic Youth is awesome, but they are not a punk band.  While they certainly have punk influences, they are better classified as alternative, indie rock, noise rock, or experimental/art rock  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.30.217.115 (talk) 02:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic Youth 

message: If anyone can be smart enough to make this list up to the standards of List of thrash metal bands that be great. Look there, it's great. Except I don't personnally like the list structure without the flags but the introduction is a nice touch to this kind of page. METALFREAK04 (talk) 17:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: Okay
I might not be doing this correctly; and I apologize as I am not familiar with the correct approach to suggest an addition on Wiki: however, i respectfully request that "The HyperZombieNumbSkulls" be added as an American Punk Band.  We do have a Wiki page and have recently reunited and are recording a new album.  We were a Boulder, CO cult punk band (1982-86) that extended the genre into punk trance music.  We now hail from Asheville, NC and are similar in sound to Social Distortion. It would Be an honor to be listed. Please let me know at sullivan594@gmail.com Thank youSullivan594 (talk) 05:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding the HyperZombieNumbskulls