Talk:Scottish art

message: this page could use some sections created. -- Akb4 22:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It could use a helluva lot of things; much more content for one. Twospoonfuls 12:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: sections

message: The organization of this article is pretty confusing.  The only section is "Early Scottish Art", which starts with a description of Pictish carved stone balls from prehistory.  Is that right?  It seems like discussion of Pictish art needs to be disentangled from prehistoric art.  That same section then covers the topic through history to contemporary art.
I'd like to propose the following sections:
1. Prehistory
--Neolithic Age
--Bronze Age
--Iron Age
2. Medieval Period
--Pictish
--Celtic Christian
3. Renaissance
4. Reformation
5. Scottish Enlightenment
6. Modern to Contemporary
--19th Century
--20th Century
--21st Century
For the most part, I think the existing content could be rearranged to fit this (or a similar) structure.  Distinctions between Neolithic, Bronze, and Iron age art will be required, and additional content might be necessary to flesh out those Prehistory subsections.  It might be best to avoid those particular subsections for now.
Cygnus921 (talk) 01:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Restructuring 

message: I notice another omission, namely the omission of metal working, pottery (incl. porcelain), glass working, jewellery etc
Sculpture is not well covered in this piece either.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine and decorative art belong to different classifications thanks, largely, to the institutional theory of art, there would need to be a compelling reason not to keep it that way. The only Scottish sculptors I can think of are the architectural ones such as Mossman, are they fine artists? Twospoonfuls (ειπέ) 19:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually there are dozens of Scottish sculptors. On Saturday I visited a studio which had at least six or seven working in there. None of them are notable, but there are a number who are, at least within Scotland, and a smaller number who are notable outwith Scotland such as Eduardo Paolozzi and Sandy Stoddart, whose sculptures can be found all over Edinburgh, and beyond.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:00, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

text: At GA level there should be some coverage of both fine and decorative art in an article that is called just "Scottish art", not Fine art of Scotland, even if most of the pretty deplorable series of national art articles we have don't do this. Welsh art and Art of the United Kingdom (both largely mine) do make an attempt at this. Johnbod (talk) 11:36, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decorative arts 

message: I tried to make a brief mention of this, but it was removed. Surely one of the most significant events in Scottish history leading to both the Scottish Enlightenment and our annexation by England. The impact upon the arts was tremendous, not only destroying much of what came before it, but limiting the subject matter that could be dealt with.
As late as the mid eighteenth century, John Home was hounded for his play Douglas, and I think a lot of subject matter e.g. nudes, religious representations etc must have been out of bounds for Scottish artists.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:30, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Reformation was already mentioned.--SabreBD (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Barely!!! Considering this is one of the most significant events in Scottish history, the way this article manages to scance straight from the Middle Ages to the Enlightenment, without mentioning this little event very much is a massive oversight.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have some reliable sources then put it in.--SabreBD (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article as it stands is a joke, and you continue to remove relevant material. This is not an article about the art history of Scotland, it is an article about art in Scotland, which happens to be a) living, and b) not just painting. As stated before, the historical section has massive oversights in it. Why isn't the Reformation dealt with properly?--MacRusgail (talk) 10:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Scottish Reformation]]