Talk:Immortal Technique/Archive 1

message: saying the track bin laden features jadakiss and eminem is a bit of a stretch; their vocals were sampled and they didnt actually pen lyrics for the track. mos def did, but they did not.
:There is a remix of this song that features DJ Green Lantern, KRS-One, and Chuck D. They aren't sampled either, from what I can tell. That might be worthy of mention if Mos Def, Jadakiss, and Em are... Joe 07:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bin Laden track

message: I read something about Civil War in Peru in his biography but it's not exactly. There was a conflict with subversive groups, and I know because I'm Peruvian. That must be changed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.53.83 (talk • contribs) 
:This is probably referring to the guerilla campaigns by Shining Path and Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement during the early 1980s when they took over lots of rural Peru. I agree its not a civil war and should be changed to more appropriate wording but I'm not sure what npov word can describe the actions of those two groups against Peru's government. Gdo01 22:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Regional conflict" perhaps? "Conflict between two anti-government organizations" (with redirects to the conflict)? Discuss...Lincoln187 07:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Civil War??

message: Someone keeps deleting my addition of him beleiving in a blood line of jesus. The Point of No Return specifically states his beleifs, about Mary Magdalene giving birth to the children of Jesus (TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE SONG), and what the Knights Templar found under Solomon's temple (AGAIN, TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE SONG). Delete stuff like that just proves what he's trying to say, you'll put what you like, but you'll take away the stuff that goes against your religion. It's effing rediculious. Anyone who deletes that shouldn't be listening to Immortal Technique. I will mercilessly edit that part in constantly, because it is the truth, cited directly from his song. There is no justification for taking that part out.
that is all.
*If its me to who you're reffering, the reason you keep having your lines edited out is bc you write like a lunatic. If you can properly express a legitimate point related to tech, then please do so. Planting a line or too in the middle of an unrelated topic will be regarded as vandalism. If you have so much to say, why don't you sign-in as a user and everyone can see exactly what you're talking about?Cavell 21:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: okay, what's up here

message: to get a few more facts, does anyone know when IT was born? i remember reading something about 77 or 78 in some online magazine interview. however, i cannot find it in my bookmarks anymore.
who-am-i 01:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  year (date) date of birth 

message: I posted an update adding information on the homophobic and misogynist messages included in several Immortal Technique songs, which I cited specifically. Soon after they were removed by one "80.134," who stated "bullshit." I'm not sure that qualifies as a reason. The lyrics are clear and available to anyone to reference. 
Obviously, that is not a removal I agree with. Is there anyone else who, though they may be overall favorably impressed with IT's progressive messages and amazing verbal skill, is incredibly disappointed in his sadly ordinary, reactionary views on gender and sexuality? 
What do other people think?
:It could be added as criticism but it will undoubtedly be deleted again unless you can provide a source saying the same thing. If you can't provide a source other than your own analysis, the section will be deleted due to original research. Gdo01 21:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i know pretty much all songs he has recorded, and not in one of them i hear him saying anything against women or homosexuals. do you? no? as long as you cant prove it, your edit was bullshit. --80.134 16:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: congratulations, you just found something that is going on in hiphop since almost 20 years. fags? bitches? oh come on. the point is, if you use that vocabulary mentioned you dont necessarily state your view on homosexuals or women; its common used cussing, whether you like it or not. saying he is homophobic or sexist is pov and factually wrong unless you provide any interview saying him anything negative about gays, lesbians or women. in 1993, on the Home Invasion album, in the song "99 Problems" (the track Jay Z bited), Ice T rapped "(i got) a bitch who's a man because theyre bitches too". got it?  --80.134 01:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Hello, anonymous editor. If you're going to participate, please do so sincerely. Comments like that won't advance the discussion. William Pietri 00:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Fuck his sexist remarks. Not all women are to be respected. Some are bitches. Not all men are to be respected. Some are dogs. Fuck your political correctness. This defines your apathy against an oppressive government anyway. This is why he will always be respected more than you. Putting his reputation on the line to speak the truth, while your political correctness keeps you muzzled from speaking your mind. ---  18:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Homophobia/Misogyny

message: It appears the basis for this article was plagiarized from The Viper Records Biography of Immortal Technique. Was permission given? This doesn't look like public domain material. Tjdw 02:54, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *I have replaced the biography with one I wrote myself (save for the last paragraph which appears to have been subsequently added).  It is probably not great, since I wrote it in a few minutes, but I think it is better than the alternative of reverting to the state before the material was added.   Thanks, --Hansnesse 22:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright Issues

message: There seems to be changes back and forth between saying he went to Hunter College High School and Regis High School.  I have found sources online which indicate the former, and have not been able to locate sources which indicate the latter.  Perhaps someone can clarify where this is coming from.  Thanks, --TeaDrinker 16:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Howdy, an article about him here from the New York Daily news indicates that he went to Hunter. --TeaDrinker 22:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  High School 

message: A few issues:
(1) 2nd paragraph says "After some more run ins with the law" even though there is no antecedent "run ins with the law." Also "run ins" is probably supposed to be "run-ins."
(2) The first paragraps says he is Executive VP at Viper while third paragraph says he is now "President of Operations." http://www.viperrecords.com/imtech/about.shtml <--that page which appears to be from early 2006 lists him as "President of Viper Records"
(3) "politics," "world politics" and "American foreign policy" in paragraph 6 seem redundant.. there should be a way to reduce those to just two or maybe even one item.
:I've attempted to fix the first problem. Feel free to edit the article yourself. Tim Ivorson 2006-06-13
::I read through the beginning part of the article and did my best to try to edit it to a more formal standard.  I didn't get to the last section.  --Gar2chan 11:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: poor quality/editing

message: Substituted at 20:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment