Talk:Battle of Guilford Court House

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Rainer  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.159.87.231 (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This drum was used in the battle  

message: It says here in the Battle section (and is repeated on the Friendly fire article that "Lieutenant John Macleod, in command of two British three-pounders, had just arrived and was directed by Cornwallis to fire on the Dragoons and the British alike". What does this mean, exactly? That he was told to specifically target the friendly forces? Or, more likely, that he was told to fire on the Dragoons without regard to friendly casualties? Does anyone know the truth of it? And how is it best to clarify the matter in the text? Xyl 54 (talk) 20:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Friendly fire 

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message: When you hover over the link for this Battle in the March 15th page, the tool tip pop-up says the British had 1900, but the first paragraph claims 2100.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.91.70.120 (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  tool tip and main summary disagree. 

message: , , in doing some genealogical research on my Hicks ancestors, I came across an account of my 4 x great-grandfather's bravery at the Battle of Guildford Court House (which can be viewed here:). Since he was the last-man-standing, does anyone think he is worthy of mention in this article? If so, where? I'd prefer someone else to do this, if worthwhile, given my connection. There is a "Colonel Hicks" mentioned here , and here: Guilford Court House order of battle, but I'm not at all sure it is one and the same man, although my ancestor certainly was promoted to Colonel at some point. Anne (talk) 23:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi - It appears that Hicks was exceptionally brave but I am not sure that an understanding of his role is central to a critical analysis of the battle. Just my thoughts. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:03, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood!  That's why I checked before doing anything! Anne (talk) 00:11, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

text: I would mention him only if he's noted by secondary sources such as histories of the Battle of Guilford Court House. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Everything about him, online, seems to have become infected with a virus, so there are sources, apart from the Hathitrust one already linked, above, including on page 1 of Early Times In Granville County North Carolina by Mrs. Cicero W. Harris (also infected: Website blocked: www.ncgenweb.us Malwarebytes Browser Guard blocked this website because it may contain malware activity.), so I cannot access these (although I have a copy on my hard drive). I have newspaper cuttings, collected by my late father, but he has failed to record which newspaper! There is stuff I could email you, but nothing really expands on the Hathitrust account regarding his actions at Guildford Court House (did you look at it?). The unusual part is that the patriots fled the scene of battle, except Robert Hicks, who fought the British single-handedly. The third one down, here,  is also infected, so I cannot access it to see what is said. Alternatively, something could be put on this page, James W. Crawford Jr. because he, too, is a descendant. Anne (talk) 11:08, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wheeler source is a first-hand account, so not really what I was suggesting. What would merit inclusion would be if a history of the battle written by a historian had mentioned him. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Had it not been infected, this might have been satisfactory http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org › GBC-Battl...PDF.  I've written to some people in Granville, NC, to ask your question. Let's see if I hear back. But I take it the Wheeler source would be unacceptable, even for the James Crawford page? Anne (talk) 18:17, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs a secondary source wherever it goes. I can open that PDF with no problem, so I don't know why you're getting a malware warning. You could try this link instead. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:40, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see this is going nowhere, unless I get something from my contact. In the meantime, might you be able to work your magic on this: http://www.ncgenweb.us › newpaper › hicks-norwood 1 Dec 2011 — Early Times In Granville County By Mrs. Cicero W. Harris ... the stain which the retreat of the North Carolina militia from that historicsite, (which I am prevented from opening by my firewall)? Anne (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

text: WP is an encyclopedia and its article are a summary and not a complete history.  I would therefore agree with ,   I am not even certain that we can place his actions in the timeline of the battle.  The other issue is the inconsistency in sources as to Captain/Colonel Robert/William Hicks.  That is without addressing whether the sources are considered sufficiently reliable.  Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 00:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . This has already been established in my post above, when I wrote "I can see this is going nowhere, unless I get something from my contact".  If I get something along the lines of Cordless Larry's request, from the people I've written to in Granville County, then I will return here, but otherwise I've said what I've said. All I'm hoping for is if Cordless Larry can open a website which is blocked to me. Nothing more and nothing less. Anne (talk) 01:20, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Try this link, Anne. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:34, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much Cordless Larry. That was very kind of you and very helpful. Just one last question, does something written in 1878 (100 years after the event) qualify as a secondary source, and could something go on the James Crawford page, under a heading of "Family History"? I can see that this Battle page is not so relevant. If so, I could probably do it, so long as I'm not slapped with a COI? Anne (talk) 09:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, possibly - if the source is judged to be reliable. Since you're a relative, it might be a good idea to make an edit request rather than doing it yourself. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Cordless Larry.  Done.  However, nobody has ever looked at that talk page, so .............! Anne (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone will if you follow the instructions at WP:COIREQ. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Captain Robert Hicks Jnr, North Carolina Militia