Talk:ETA (separatist group)

message: According to the article:
:"Nationalists who refused to follow the tenets of Marxism-Leninism and who sought to create a united front appeared as ETA-V, but lacked the support to challenge ETA.[59]"
Afaik, it was exactly the opposite - "modern" ETA is ETA-V; it was ETA-VI (the winners of the VI Conference) that dissapeared, merging with the Trotskyist movemement--194.38.144.2 (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Bump. This should be reviewed. --MarioGom (talk) 14:58, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ETA V 

message: Euskadi Ta Askatasuna is the official name, ETA is well known shortform. Correctly the tite has to be Euskadi Ta Askatasuna. Pleas change this. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 22:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Outdoor-Bro: I have opened a move request below. --MarioGom (talk) 09:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Euskadi Ta Askatasuna

message: How is this pronounced in English? I've always heard it as  like , but I could see that others might pronounce it more like . We have Basque and Spanish prononunciations but not English, which is a bit odd. Wktionary doesn't give pronunciations for any language. 85.238.91.68 (talk) 07:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The Collins Dictionary proposes  for British English (). --MarioGom (talk) 20:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Also how CNN pronounces it , have added it. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  English pronunciation 

message: This reference does not confirm French designation. The page is quite long, so search for "Euskadi Ta Askatasuna" to be taken to the relevant point. If you scroll up past the "PERSONNES" section above that you will see the European Council press release. Although it's from 2004 you can see the similarity when comparing the "PERSONNES" and "GROUPES ET ENTITES" sections with the EU list from 2009. Obviously some people and groups don't appear on both lists, but it is clear they are the same list, just from different years. So as the French website is only giving the EU list, it does not confirm ETA are designated in France. It is quite possible they are, which is why I will only be tagging the information at present rather than simply removing it. FDW777 (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  French designation tagged as failing verification 

message: This is a section with no future, will surely be removed very soon. I opened it in order to publish contributions of French and Spanish people who feel ashamed of this article. Like me. ETA´s definition in English Wikipedia (In French the article has been redacted by an user called Artapalo... the main chief of ETA!) is offensive. An armed group that commits murder (including 22 children) against democratic countries is a terrorist group. Shame on you, Wikipedia.1PLL (talk) 11:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of suggesting the English Wikipedia should follow the Spanish Wikipedia's lead when it comes to neutrality and objectivity, if you took a step back and looked at things fairly you'd realise it should in fact be the other way round. FDW777 (talk) 14:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

text: That would by why the lead says . FDW777 (talk) 09:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  SHAME 

message: MOS:TERRORIST does not say "that the term can be used if there are strong sources for it", this is a truncated version that misses the entire point of it. What it says is  (my emphasis). Since there is no in-text attribution in the short description (and neither should there be, since it's suposed to be short, it is a violation of the guideline and WP:NPOV to have  as the short description. FDW777 (talk) 10:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In-text attribution becomes pointless when literally everyone designated them as terrorist. It already states that "ETA was classified as a terrorist group by Spain, France, the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada and the European Union" In addition, the UN Security Council called ETA a terrorist group: . You are insisting on a WP:FALSEBALANCE. --Pudeo (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to suggest a change to the guideline, this is the wrong place to do it. FDW777 (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Also your UN reference says . The 2004 Madrid train bombings weren't perpetrated by ETA. See also this article regarding that statement. FDW777 (talk) 11:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  MOS:TERRORIST.....again 

message: ETA is mentioned quite a bit in Craig Johnson’s Death Without Company. Specifically chapter 11 and in another chapter before. The book is about Basque immigrants and is a detective series set in Wyoming. 2600:1700:1D52:4020:15A8:A3CE:B61F:DA68 (talk) 02:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiction Novel 

message: ETA was a terrorist gang, not separatist group, no cherleader group, no cualquieridiotez group. Terrorists. Kises :-) 90.167.95.103 (talk) 08:06, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure this is discussed already. If no change has been made in 10 years maybe you’re wrong 2600:1700:1D52:4020:517:6731:3FFD:976A (talk) 00:50, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrorist