Talk:The Way International/Archive 5

message: This section will be for links to recordings of Wierwille's teachings and webpages with excerpts from his books.   
    
*Religion Enslaves People   
*Sincere Religious People   
*Love God Above All Else   
    
Before 68.191.109.199 adds more and more here perhaps these should be discussed for why they are being included. They have longer load times so I only listened to the 1st one and know what it says. The mp3.s should have a point to the article and why they out of other recordings are being placed up here. Merci. Lsjzl 16:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally unnecesary IMHO. Ten of Swords 18:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to let his section go until there's more discussion or I can find some better links. I thought a section where people could hear the man speak for himself would definitely enhance the article. Stanleygoodspeed777 05:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Is "letting the man speak for himself" NPOV? Or is this just an excuse to insert a teaching into the article? Frankly I don't see where cramming in as much Way doctrine as possible is what this article should be about. And Stanley, aren't you the guy who said that what the current leadership is teaching is most important? If someone wants in-depth Wierwille teachings, let him go to a TWI fellowship, or one of the offshoot groups that still use his teachings. I'm yanking the section. Ten of Swords 15:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wierwille's Own Words

message: The article is really shaping up well. I've added a V.P. Wierwille section again to generate interest in posting his actual words and teachings. Nothing gets to the heart and substance of the Way like the founding president's own words.   
    
:Is "letting the man speak for himself" NPOV? Or is this just an excuse to insert a teaching into the article? Frankly I don't see where cramming in as much Way doctrine as possible is what this article should be about. And Stanley, aren't you the guy who said that what the current leadership is teaching is most important? If someone wants in-depth Wierwille teachings, let him go to a TWI fellowship, or one of the offshoot groups that still use his teachings. I'm yanking the section. Ten of Swords 15:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Victor Paul Wierwille's Own Words

message: For:   
    
TEN OF SWORDS, or whoever,   
    
I have an idea that you might like to work on, but this first:   
    
When I discovered this category, I saw the "ex-members" links. As such, a page in my website would fit. But I never considered myself a member in the past, or an ex-member currently - hence, my first editing.   
    
At first, I "plugged" my site's link into a links category because it was there. But after mulling-over this links thing the past day or two, I decided that my website should not even be included.   
    
The category is "The Way International", and honestly, my website has nothing about The Way International. So I feel that it's appropriate to keep my link off the page. And I deleted my page link last night.   
   
I can see from the discussion page history that you (Ten of Swords) edit this subject frequently. And your reasoning sounds good.   
    
So I'm offering a suggestion that "member" or "ex-member" links be removed if they don't have anything to do with the Way International. Not removal of entire link categories; just a few that may have no substantial information on The Way.   
    
But I'm going to keep clear of editing the links of others. And with the experience you have with this, you will probably handle it great.   
    
I noticed the sociable nature of one of your posts listed earlier - nice. I have no idea who you are. But you can probably guess from my signature that I'm not very anonymous on the internet. In my case, there is no reason to be anonymous. Our website is one of the best known on the internet for it's type, and I never write anything on the internet that would come back to bite me.   
    
As far as my experience with TWI, I attended fellowships from 1983 to 2005. I have no "gripe" about The Way. The fellowships for us, were not edifying anymore. I think its fine for others to keep attending if its edifying for them. So from an editing standpoint, I believe I'm about as impartial as they come.   
    
Should you ever wish to email - feel free. With Google and a search for "M. D. Vaden", you can always find me.   
    
Thanks,   
    
M. D. Vaden   
    
Mdvaden 23:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LINKS