Talk:May 31

message: "1279 BC - Ramesses II becomes Pharaoh of Egypt."
So... how was this determined, pray tell? Even the year is debated. 31 May seems rather unusually precise. 
→ P.MacUidhir (t) (c)  17:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, same with Genghis Khan. Not sure how's his birth is attributed to May 31 when there's no mention of that on his article, and the year is even contested. Thiseye (talk) 14:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ramesses II 

message: On the Give Peace a Chance page, it states that the song was recorded on June 1st and not May 31st as listed here. CWPappas 04:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Give Peace a Chance 

message: Does the death of one person in one storm that destroyed one building make a significant enough impact on history to be considered an important "this day in history"?
I suggest deleting this entry, or putting it only in the discussion age.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.254 (talk) 20:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2002 date? 

message: Mufka; you are probably right. Only time will tell if this event is notable enough for an almanac entry. It's mentioned in wikinews which may be enough. At any rate this one will probably attract the partisan editors.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 14:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, unless this event leads directly to notably escalated tensions (a war), it shouldn't be included.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaza flotilla clash 

message: Currently, the "events" section leads with:
* 1279 BC – Ramesses II (The Great) (19th dynasty) becomes pharaoh of Ancient Egypt.
As of yesterday, I removed that item, since it was unsourced and struck me as highly dubious (even if we know his accession date in the Egyptian calendar, it strikes me as very iffy to say that it corresponds with a precise day in our modern Gregorian calendar, which didn't exist in any form at the time).
User:Baking Soda reverted that link, and added a source--but the source strikes me as highly dubious: http://www.crystalinks.com/Ramesses_II.html ; crystalinks.com is basically a new-age blog, and the Ramesses II page is copied from an old version of the Wikipedia article Ramesses II. (Our page hasn't included the May 31 date for a couple of years.)
I raised this on User Talk:Baking Soda; they responded that the accession date in the ancient Egyptian calendar is well-established (III Shemu 27) and asserted that this corresponds to "May 31/June 1". I don't want to get into an edit war here, but I think we need a reliable source both for the accession date, and for how we map the Egyptian calendar to our Gregorian dates. So I'm marking the fact/cite as "dubious" and I'm hoping others will weigh in? — Narsil (talk) 23:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved to June 1 with two more reliable sources. () Baking Soda (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Those sources look better, but still pretty iffy--both are self-published, it looks like. And like I said, it strikes me as pretty dubious in the first place to say "this date in the ancient Egyptian calendar matches precisely to this date in a calendar that wouldn't exist for centuries". Still, if nobody else weighs in, I'll drop it. — Narsil (talk) 23:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree sources are not authoritative, perhaps a footnote pointing out that accession is on "III Shemu 27" Egyptian calendar (probably sourced from Papyrus/Graffito (archaeology)) and that  Gregorian calendar date is an approximation. Info should also be added to Ramesses II, added pointer to this discussion on talk page there... Baking Soda (talk) 23:45, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accession date of Ramesses II 

message: Petronella is listed as a form of the name; is there a reason it is preferred over Petronilla or the other forms?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petronilla piped as Petronella 

message: Crescentian on this day, as per ref in article, and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggested add. Holidays and observances:  Crescentian 

message: Cantius, Cantianus, and Cantianilla fest. this day, ref as in article and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:19, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggested add. Cantius, Cantianus, and Cantianilla 

message: Saint Hermias on this day as per article, and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggested add. Saint Hermias 

message: Pentecost Sunday is on this date in 2020, it should be added under holidays and observances.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supevan (talk • contribs) 20:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pentecost Sunday