Talk:Chaos Dwarfs (Warhammer)

message: : The new (7th edition) Warhammer rulebook has basic stats for Chaos Dwarves in it. It is the only race with such information that does not have a current army book. I think this is a good sign that GW is planning to publish an army book for them sometime in the not too distant future. - Waza 05:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Which of course is great, because the Chaos Dwarfs are the most original thing GW ever did. Chris Cunningham 12:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CD will be re-released 

message: Come one please... I mean, I'm a big fan of citing and references (as you might have known from my stubby articles) but if you want references, then just ask any geek (no offence, I'm a geek and proud of it) in Gamesworkshop who will tell you all. So I shall remove the referencing because it would be like saying that "The sun is bright" needs referencing. Tourskin 21:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged this again. You can't just not have references. Most current Fantasy players aren't old enough to remember the last time a Chaos Swarf mini was released anyway, what with GW's relentless pursuit of nine-year-old gamers. Chris Cunningham 12:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and sources? 

message: I've tried to get rid of all the in-universe style but I'm not sure I got all of it.  Very difficult to do, without repeatedly saying "In the game of Warhammer..." at the beginning of every paragraph.
Added a few more references.
It could probably do with a little trimming down in general, removing some of the superfluous detail.
206.169.227.226 18:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major overhaul performed 

message: In White Dwarf Presents: Chaos Dwarfs, Hashut is only ever described as a god.  None of the fluff even describes him as a Chaos God, but there is a single example which is in a rules-only section rather than fluff.  In the magic item section of the army list (page 56), it says how Chaos Dwarfs could take Chaos magic items as long as they weren't for a specific god, because "they have their own Chaos God".  If this statement had been in any of the many fluff sections regarding Hashut then it would have been enough to make it clear that Hashut was a Chaos God, but since it was in a rules-only section it begs the question of whether it was an oversight on the part of the writers.  The book was written in early 4th edition when there was much less focus of the big four Chaos Gods and much more comment on there being many more of them.
There has been some newer fluff on Hashut that was supposedly written for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.  It describes how Hashut was a powerful daemon of Khorne who rebelled and was trapped underground to await Khorne's punishment.  The daemon was discovered by dwarfs and he saved them from certain death.  These dwarfs began worshipping Hashut and became Chaos Dwarfs.  This fluff has never been published: it has been claimed that it was not included in the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay book due to space restrictions rather than content, and the authenticity of the piece is in doubt.  The unpublished status of this material means that it remains non-cannonical and therefore isn't regarded as "true" in the warhammer world at present.
I'll add a section to the main article to explain all this and stop people from changing it without knowing all the facts.
206.169.227.226 (talk) 19:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nature of Hashut