Talk:List of South Africans

message: As a South African, I feel I have a right to say something about the issue, and looking at the list, I only truly feel that four or five of the entries should not have been there. It's high time for South Africans to accept that apartheid is the past. South Africa is meant to be a country of free speech, even if your idea of free speech means waving the old flag or singing the old Afrikaans anthem. Everyone, in my mind, who is born under a South African sky, who is born to South African parents, who has felt a South African sun, is a South African - regardless of our skin colour.
:I'm not sure if this anonymous comment was in response to my comment about using the Top100 list, or just a general comment. If it was about the Top100, I agree that everyone on the Top100 list should still be listed in this article. They're all noteworthy for one or other reason. However, I disagree about using a contentious vote in Wikipedia, presenting a POV as almost a factual list of great South Africans. The article title is '[List of South Africans], the so-called Top100 does not belong here. Greenman 25 June 2005
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Removed a bit of text concerning Hansie Cronje, not due to any disagreement, but due to the fact it was misplaced POV... If you want to write about his efforts in charity, do so in His Bio. -aliasd
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Well, wikipedians from all the other countries seem to be doing it!
Please refrain from putting JRR Tolkien in this list. I know he was a Bloemfontein boykie, but he left for england while still a baby.  - clasqm
Is there a difference between a statesman and a politician?  I would classify Smuts, Mandela and de Klerk as statesmen - Verwoerd was merely a politician.  If Tolkien cannot be claimed for South Africa, can Cecil Rhodes? - Tiles 
: Tolkien, Ghandi, Cecil Rhodes and Jan van Riebeeck where voted as Great South Africans in 2004 even though they spent little time in South Africa and then there is the architects of Apartheid - Verwoerd and Malan ect. 
:Why are all these people in the great South African list? The answer is simple, South Africa is the Rainbow Nation and we accept our past and now build our future on forgiveness and tolerance. This list is a list of famous and infamous people who put South Africa on the map as voted by the people. Yes I know it is hard to believe that some people look up to the likes of Winnie, Verwoerd, Malan, Hertzog, Mrs Ples, Boesak and Terreblanche. 
:My top 10 Great South Africans who I voted for is Nelson Mandela, Jan Smuts, FW de Klerk, Albert Luthuli, Beyers Naude, Johnny Clegg, Alan Paton, Trevor Manuel, Patrica de Lille and Jody Scheckter
--Jcw69 07:36, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the Top100 list should be used at all in Wikipedia. Sure, everyone on the list should have an article, but why present an obscure list voted by  tiny minority of SABC3 viewers as representative of the 100 Greatest? Why not a list voted by Radio Pulpit listeners? Or Isolezwe readers? Why such a POV presentation of greatest? Over time the order and list would change, even for SABC3 viewers. Wikipedia should not be constrained by this list, in a particular place in time, by a particular subset of voters. I strongly suggest the list goes, replaced by a simple listing of notable South Africans. --Greenman 14 June 2005
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Is Chris de Burg really South African? And is that how you spell his name?
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Could 198.54.202.242 please stop taking off the links. Wikipedia is built up by inter links to other pages, what you doing is bordering onto vandalism.--Jcw69 16:00, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: I agree with not having links of names without articles but 198.54.202.242 was also deleteing links to already exsisting articles--Jcw69 08:27, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, I should have investigated further before replying ... I agree with you in that case. :-) Elf-friend 10:38, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: JJ I had position 2 to 10 blank by using the html code ol instead of #, I could redo that again--Jcw69 07:11, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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message: Any debute on my suggestion of putting Emily Hobhouse on the list although British has become an honorary South African?--Jcw69 17:35, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emily Hobhouse 

message: I have moved this text from "Greatest South African" and made that page a redirect to here, so that it can be merged if anyone thinks it is appropriate PBS 08:54, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text from "Greatest South African" Page 

message: Hendrik Verwoerd was certainly the greatest statesmen amongst the politician. But I get a feeling that South Africans voted just by common knowledge about the figures. So what actually was recorded here was the coverage each person got in the media.
: The poll means very little - it was a snapshot of SABC3 viewers who felt inclined to vote at the time. I still strongly believe it doesn't belong here, and seeing as no-one has commented with any good reasons why it should stay since my June comments, I'll probably remove the listing as soon as I get the energy :) Greenman 23:18, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does the poll mean? 

message: Why do we put Jews on a different list? See List of African Jews.
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I read somewhere that Mandela was automatically put to number 1 in the list. I didn't see anything in the article about this. Is it true? Did I just skim too quickly and miss mention of it? Ben davison 23:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate Lists 

message: Does he really belong on this list? He has not lived in South Africa in several decades, he is not a South African citizen, and he was not a South African when he became famous. That's like putting Kalpana Chawla in a "List of Indians." —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 19:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Melvill 

message: There was a list of South African musicians here, and another one at Music of South Africa, we dont need both. I have merged those lists and moved them to List of South African musicians.--Ezeu 08:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of musicians merged 

message: Some personalities are conspicuously omitted.  Here are some that I've identified whose inclusion deserves consideration.
Hendrik J. van der Bijl, Scientist and industrialist.  Established both Eskom and Iskor.  Was part of AT&T's team that developed the vacuum tube technology which enabled long distance wireless telephony.
Bobby Locke, Germiston born HAll-Of-Fame Golfer
Manfred Mann and Trevor Rabin, Musicians.
(Potion (talk) 19:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Inclusions 

message: Why is he not included??? 89.210.75.32 (talk) 08:38, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because no one's added him yet? Wikipedia:BEBOLD. Greenman (talk) 13:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SHARLTO COPLEY 

message: I have added a section 'Atheists', who already had their own category page. 
KentisMaximus (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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message: Adding "Apartheid" to any, but the Anti-Apartheids-Activists is misplaced and doesn't look very NPOV. --196.2.126.173 (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apartheid adjective 

message: J.R.R Tolkien, the author of, most notably, the Lord of the Rings, was born in Bloemfontein, South Africa.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.145.148.149 (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  J.R.R Tolkien 

message: The title of this page is "List of South Africans".  If you're not going to list every South African, the least you could do is rename the page to "List of South Africans about which we give a shit" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.83.3.124 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "This is a list of notable South Africans who are the subjects of Wikipedia articles." Feel free to add any that are missing. --NeilN talk to me 23:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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