Talk:Claremont, California

message: The city has an ordinance effectively banning fast-food restaurants (although a few exist within about 5 blocks of the city limits), does anyone think this is worth commenting on in more detail? --Xanadu 06:43, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: First, I put this discussion under it's own heading and moved the misplaced question about the Claremont Institute. On the main subject, there's a Quizno's in Claremont's Village, so there's certainly not a ban on fast food. Depending on what you mean by fast food, there are a number of restaurants that qualify: Taco Factory, the smoothie shop etc. I think we'd need the law/ordinance referred to by the anon user above to add this to the article. MrVibrating 07:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fast food

message: Why is mention of the Claremont Institute in the Geography section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OffDoom (talk • contribs) 22:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claremont Institute in Geography section? 

message: I love Claremont, but a wikipedia article should not be so subjective and over-dramatic.  Cutting out the advertisement, oversimplification, and hyperbole would improve this article considerably.  Also, adding some information about Claremont history would be good.  --jacobolus (t) 14:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the history section since it was copied verbatim from the city's website in violation of WP:COPYRIGHT. I have been meaning to at least rewrite the history section to avoid infringement, but if you want to take a shot at it, be my guest.  Brien ClarkTalk 20:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed the "intelligent design" phrase and moved the part about planting trees next to the tree award sentence. I also put Claremonster's comments in the correct section and moved the comment about Alba and McGwire to a new section. MrVibrating 20:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  article steps far from encyclopedic language and NPOV 

message: I deleted Mark McGwire and Jessica Alba in the Famous People section; both were apparently born in neighboring Pomona according to their bios, but as far as I can determine, have no association whatsoever with Claremont.  --71.104.17.242 07:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the section is titled "Notable current and former residents" so his listing is clearly relevant since you're acknowledging him as a fomrer resident. jer the linear (talk) 00:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of famous people

message: :These edits are currently being discussed on Tcccfriends's talk page
::The article is currently locked due to this edit war, but since it seems to have ended a few months ago I requested unprotection for the article. MrVibrating 10:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Next time, don't wait so long to ask for unprotection.  I had long since forgotten about this article and would have unprotected it long ago if someone had reminded me.  --Richard 15:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I didn't wait at all--I just came upon this page yesterday. I wasn't here when the locking occurred. MrVibrating 19:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medical Marijuana 

message: Claremont did indeed rank #5 on Money's list, but it is not true that it was the only community in California to make the list.  Eight other California towns are on it.  The article should be edited to correct this.  --71.104.17.242 04:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch. I changed the sentence to say that Claremont is the highest rated place in California on the list. Next time,  be bold and change it yourself. MrVibrating 19:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Money Magazine "Best Places" 

message: Given Claremont's long history and stunning architecture in it's oldest regions, it's seems out of place that the photo of Claremont is that of the Padua region; a staple of cookie-cutter housing found east of Claremont in the Inland Empire. Perhaps a photo facing north from that 3 story office building on First Street would make a much more accurate representation of what Claremont is, in mood at least.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.114.125 (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Photo of Claremont 

message: Claremont is one of the most elitist cites in Southern California, Despite wide acceptance by local residents it is NOT illegal or unlawful to be less fortunate (poor) while residing within the city. However it is illegal to park in the street in front of your residence, doing so will result in numerous and continues parking violations that will slowly collect interest if not taken care of at the police departments earliest convenience. Also every street had a speed limit of 25 MPH and is STRICTLY enforced for the residence of this small town, the police have absolutely nothing better to do than to sit on a main residential street and write up to 3 speeding tickets every fifteen minutes for any one going over twenty five miles per hour on a street that has no clear speed limit signs, and isn't really even Claremont. Unless of course you are the Claremont PD in which case it's seems to be perfectly fine to come flying up the street at well over 50 MPH at all hours of the day and night. But if the stench of this cities snobby liberal hippy population still cannot keep you from staking residence within it then please let me offer a pointer or two. First if you ever use the freeway... make sure you never use the Claremont Indian Hill exit because when the Claremont PD can't make their quota on parking tickets alone they will set up a checkpoint in the same place every time, right off of this exit. Blocking traffic for miles. They have strategically chosen this location for a checkpoint because it is the most aggravating possible place to put it. Second if your are planning to buy a house in this monotonous city, then I would suggest pricing concrete before you make any purchasing decisions, due to the fact than you will have to convert your front lawn into a giant driveway to provide adequate parking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.78.246  (talk • contribs) 13:11, 3 May 2008
:Please stop adding the above material to the article; it has been removed at least twice and will continue to be deleted without debate. Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's requirement that articles be written with a neutral point of view, free of commentary or personal analysis. —Whoville (talk) 18:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Complaints

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message: I have never edited any Wikipedia articles before but thought there were 2 more people who should be added in notable people.
Author Ray Bradbury (authored Fahrenheit 451) lived in Claremont.
Author John Scalzi (highly decorated author) attended the Webb School in Claremont.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.193.220.210 (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a source that Bradbury was associated with Claremont, please provide it. Sdkb (talk) 20:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of Notable People 

message: has twice tried to remove the external link to the Claremont Courier, the city's newspaper of record. The issue of whether to include external links to local newspapers has been brought up twice before, first here and then (by me) here, but neither discussion was able to reach a consensus. (Both those discussions, it's important to note, were largely about lower-quality commercial sites such as Patch.com, whereas the Courier, having been named the top community newspaper in California in 2018, is a sterling example of a high-quality local news source.) In my view, including a link to the Courier fits type 3 of WP:ELYES, "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ... amount of detail ... or other reasons." The Courier is a neutral and accurate source per its aforementioned reputation, its material is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of Claremont because its articles are or could be used as sources for much of the page, and it contains more detail than we could include in the page because we're not going to cover every Claremont news item on WP.
Magnolia, you brought up WP:LINKFARM in your revert. There are currently only two other links there (to the city hall page and the chamber of commerce page), so I don't think restoring the Courier would make the EL section non-minimal. Further, having the Courier plugs an important gap: the two other sources represent official and business interests respectively, and thus won't cover negative information (such as a small government scandal), whereas the job of a newspaper is to (ideally) represent the people's interest. I think it's a big mistake to talk about newspaper websites as though they are the same as the website for the local church or any other local business, since, as I noted in the prior discussion, "the function of most business websites is to advertise their product, which doesn't have much of anything to do with encyclopedic knowledge and is why we don't link to them. The purpose of a reputable newspaper website, by contrast, is to communicate information of importance to the public, which is very closely aligned with what we're doing here on Wikipedia." - Sdkb (talk) 20:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit summary stated: "Sorry, WP:EL does not suggest adding the city's newspaper to the external links, while WP:USCITIES recommends adding the newspaper of record to the "media" section (where it is) and only linking externally to official sites. Please discuss".  Moreover, "one should generally avoid providing external links to...(#19) Websites of organizations mentioned in an article—unless they otherwise qualify as something that should be linked or considered", per WP:LINKSTOAVOID . Magnolia677 (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I noted my interpretation of WP:EL above. And the "otherwise qualify" part is exactly what we're discussing. WP:USCITIES is just an essay, but it neither recommends for or against. Sdkb (talk) 02:54, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link to ''[[Claremont Courier]]'' 

message: I noticed you deleted some of the names from the notable people list, with your edit summary stating that they have no demonstrated connection to Claremont. Would you consider restoring them with just  tags for a bit? I don't think it's likely that the list contains vandalism, so it'd be better to give it a chance before just taking a hammer to it.  talk 08:11, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people removals 

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message: Hello all! I have never edited a Wiki article before, but I am interested in editing this one. I would like to add information about the Vivian Webb Chapel that's at The Webb Schools. This would be added to the "Private schools" section of the article. I would pull information from https://www.webb.org/life/explore-campus/. Let me know if anyone has an objection to this!  MuffinDrinker99 (talk) 23:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Vivian Webb Chapel Information