Talk:Palmdale, California

message: Hello All,
Added a revision to the history section of the page. Stated when other "regular" public schools were established, to emphasize growth of the city. Added comment regarding, Highland high school and Knight high school. Thank you!
:Please note that Wikipedia articles are not considered a reliable source, so you shouldn't cite them.  Instead, look to see what sources were cited in the article where you found the information.—Stepheng3 (talk) 20:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: avnative is right. Mr. Lane, kukuman, I stand corrected. 
Therefore, I have corrected the information and placed only verifiable information so that it stands correct for the time being until further notice. 
This page is also getting too long and the warning message is appearing, so I have shortened it.
Respectfully, Anon
===Response===
May God bless you, anon.  To say and do what you have presented here and on the Palmdale page is hard to do, and harder to say.  You have my admiration!  Looking forward to your constructive, thoughtful, factual edits around the Wiki in the future. . . 
(You'll also notice I archived all previous talk on this page - please see the header at the top of this page.)  
Happy Trails to you!  --avnative 19:22, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)
Nice, looks much better and more accurate. Kudos anon. --Kukuman 01:01, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: New Revision

message: May God bless you, anon.  To say and do what you have presented here and on the Palmdale page is hard to do, and harder to say.  You have my admiration!  Looking forward to your constructive, thoughtful, factual edits around the Wiki in the future. . . 
(You'll also notice I archived all previous talk on this page - please see the header at the top of this page.)  
Happy Trails to you!  --avnative 19:22, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)
Nice, looks much better and more accurate. Kudos anon. --Kukuman 01:01, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Response

message: JML, Anon - Anon has credible info listed above (and he didn't have to go to lengths in documenting each community with a website - I know these place names well).  These are all place names where people say, for instance, "I live in Lake Elizabeth, not Lancaster" and "I need to find out if you could please take me to my friend in Valyermo from where my car conked out in here in Neenach."  Los Angeles denizens get scared when we AVers use place names other than the "magic words" of Palmdale or Lancaster, but trust me - these place names Anon has listed and the place names another user/editor placed into the Antelope Valley article (BTW, I don't "own" the article - it's part of the free Wikipedia, available to anyone) are very legitimate.  They aren't subsumed into either Palmdale city limits or Lancaster city limits.  They deserve Wiki articles of their own - however humble or small they might be.  
I second Anon's request for Bot assistance in getting some basic info for these communities.  Over time, these places will be populated in good old LA fashion, and an already written history, combined with new developments as the communities grow will be an asset.   Happy Trails, --avnative 08:44, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
:The bot was created by User:Ram-Man, and he has some information on it at User:Rambot.  You can check with him, or just dive in and start doing descriptive articles, adding the census data later, whether by bot or by "hand". JamesMLane 06:57, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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message: Our unknown user who placed Palmdale's population at 201,000 people, in a sense is correct given if you include all of the unincorporated district areas that are addressed as Palmdale into the figure such as White-Fence Farms, Desert-View Highlands, Harold, Lakeview, and Sun Village. However, since this is an encyclopedia, it must display only the physical determinable facts, and as that stands, there are only about 150,000 people within the city limits this year. The other 50,000 or so cannot be counted with it until they are incorporated into the city as well. If you wish for them to be counted, I suggest you push for a movement downtown for annexation of them.  (unsigned comment placed by 71.108.95.39)
:Regarding "Our unknown user": talking to yourself, eh, Anon?  Please don't be so coy.  Your editorial preferences and biases are once again showing through.
:For the record, the article needs to become more sober and fact-based in its content, and less like "veneer of the truth, stuffed with lies" IMO.  (Sorry for the very belated review of your work these last months.)  Interesting. . .  I know a realtor from a certain real estate office that Anon claims he works at, and he says that the way you edit does no credit to Palmdale, the Antelope Valley, or the real estate profession.  This realtor friend says no one in the Real Estate profession locally would act the way Anon does.  So what gives, Anon?  You know, some months ago, you agreed to stay fact-based in your edits.  Yet the minute I took my eyes off of you you returned to your former ways of editing.  You also never did take me up on my gracious offer of a face to face meeting to discuss our differences.  
:Therefore, for the record, let all Wikipedia users know this: Palmdale, California will be returning to content consistent with Wikipedia guidelines/policy.  Editors who are collegial and work well with other editors within Wikipedia have nothing to fear.  But those editors who don't. . . well, what can I say?  Your days of puffery are numbered.  --avnative 12:22, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Population Update

message: A little interesting item of information relative to Palmdale was
the "Battle Of Palmdale" on 16 August 1956, when the US Air Force
bombarded the town.
On that day, a Grumman F6F Hellcat converted to a radio controlled
target drone took off from the Point Mugu Naval Air Station to
fly to a target range over the Pacific Ocean.  It "slipped the 
leash" and headed for Los Angeles.  Since nobody liked the
idea of the unpiloted machine flying into, say, a school, two
Northrop F-89D Scorpion interceptors were scrambled from Oxnard
Air Force Base to shoot it down.
The Scorpions were only armed with unguided rockets, 104 per
aircraft in wingtip pods.  The Hellcat ended up wandering in a
perverse fashion north of Los Angeles.  The Scorpions fired 
rocket salvos at it, missing and starting a brush fire.  They tried 
again, missing and setting up two more brush fires (including 
one fueled by oil rigs).  They gave it one more try, using up the 
last of their rockets -- which missed the Hellcat and fell in and 
around Palmdale.
A piece of shrapnel went through the living room window of one
house, passing through a wall and ending up in a kitchen cupboard.
Another chunk of shrapnel passed through a garage and a house.
A rocket fell in front of a car driving down the road and shredded
the car's front end.  Miraculously, nobody was hurt.  Explosive
ordnance disposal teams from Edwards Air Force Base picked up 
13 dud rockets from the Palmdale area over the next few days.  It
took hundreds of firefighters two days to put out the fires, after
the blaze had consumed hundreds of acres of brush.
The Hellcat eventually ran out of fuel and fell to earth in the
desert, cutting three power lines but causing no other damage.
Having no particular interest in Palmdale I don't think I should
modify this article, but if anyone likes this story, feel free to
include it.  Greg Goebel / 04 jan 06
:There was a recent article in the L.A. Times about this event. -Will Beback 03:34, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle Of Palmdale

message: Note that with the addition of the infobox template, I had to omit the following information due to no relevant fields being present in the template:
* City flower – Lilac
* City tree – Joshua Tree
Rmannion 19:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd add them to a trivia section. BlankVerse 13:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't there be a section or at least a paragraph on the infamous "Palmdale Bulge". While now disproved, this oddity of geological history was significant in that it led to a measurable population exodus during the 1960's. Many news articles were written about it both at the time of it's "discovery" as well as later when it was disproved. Iwould gladly add this myself but I do not have access to the old newspaper archives from that era. 66.102.199.72 (talk) 10:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Palmdale Bulge story was first reported in 1974 and many residents fled the area in the 1970s not the 60s, unless you mentioned the fears of the New Age-related failed prediction of a M9.0 earthquake on April 18, 1969 "will strike the Palmdale section" of the San Andreas Fault runs through south of the city. Lake Palmdale will not become a volcano, and Los Angeles basin will not fall into the Pacific ocean, to create an island of the San Gabriel Mountains, and Palmdale or Lancaster isn't going to turn into a large beach-front sand dunes. The bulge is part of a geological phenomenon known as the Levelling refraction effect. 71.102.12.55 (talk) 08:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Wiki article on the San Andreas Fault says: 'In Palmdale, a portion of the fault is easily examined at a roadcut for the Antelope Valley Freeway.' If this is a popular tourist site, maybe it would be worth a mention. Valetude (talk) 12:57, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Palmdale Bulge

message: I noticed the page on Lancaster  has a list of both public and private schools but the Palmdale page only lists public schools.  Are there private schools in Palmdale? The only private schools I know of are listed in Lancaster. Mooreba1003 (talk) 16:12, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Private Schools? 

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