Talk:Expulsion (education)

message: I never thought I'd say this, but this page is FAR to "British-centric", defining the title "principal" by referring to "headteacher"! Besides that there is a load of the second person and other things. 68.39.174.238 03:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

message: Either fill the Famous Expulsions section, or delete that section. Mydoctor93 (talk) 09:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a blank section 

message: This article does not mention academic (scholastic) failure as grounds for expulsion.  In some private schools, such failure is grounds for expulsion (or having to leave the school permanently).  H Padleckas (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic failure 

message: "sent down" redirects to expulsion. since in the british context I have only ever heard of this used in regards to Oxford/cambridge universities and private schools shouldnt there be an explanation for the redirect or a small page? in a state school or university the term expulsion would always be used. 91.128.24.17 (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "sent down" 

message: At the very begining of the article, it shows the word "withdrawing" as another word for expulsion; isn't withdrawing when a student voluntarily moves from an institution? Sam.gov (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember ever contributing to this article, but I have a passing interest in the topic, and I thought your question was worthy of a quick search, for your observation certainly seemed reasonable. "Other parents have indicated that instead of expelling students, some schools have simply adopted an informal “push out” policy. Reportedly, parents have been called into the school to discuss their children’s behavior; upon arriving they were presented with a pre-completed withdrawal form, asked to sign and find a “more suitable school” for their children." Emphasis added by me. Gzuufy (talk) 00:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Withdrawing" 

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message: In the Expulsion Rates subsection underneath the United States and Canada subsection, there is currently a reference to a report by Russell J. Skiba that is marked as being done in 2003. The report that is linked is dated August, 2000. I am not sure how to approach this, since it is being used to back the assertion that, "Beginning with the Gun-Free School Zones Act, and following the Columbine shooting tragedy, schools have become increasingly willing to suspend or have expelled students for minor behavior offenses". The source mentions Columbine once, and it's unclear whether the source is stating that Columbine was part of the "beginning" of the increase in expulsion rates. Especially in light of the first sentence in that section, the article does not seem to be entirely coherent.
How should we move forward? Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about source 

message: I propose that Bannimus is merely one case of a kind of expulsion, and would be best merged to the UK section of this article. BD2412 T 03:40, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In principle that should work, but I am concerned that this article is in practice almost entirely concerned withe expulsions from schools with almost nothing about universities, despite what it says in the lead. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:56, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that it might be better to merge this to Rustication (academia), which has more on universities; one could also consider bannimus as the limiting case of rustication ... and, regardless, the short text at Bannimus would have some better context (Oxbridge discussion) there. Klbrain (talk) 22:01, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with that is that rustication is very definitely not expulsion: rustication is always (in principle) temporary while expulsion is always (in principle) permanent. I'm increasingly of the view that all mergers here create more difficulties than they solve, and we should just leave things as they are. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:09, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

text: I think that it is Oxford-specific; I had a bit of a search for references in Cambridge, but couldn't find anything (just the use of the term expulsion). I'd be happy with a merge to explusion rather rather rustification, given Jonathan A Jones's concerns.  Klbrain (talk) 18:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

text: Klbrain (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from [[Bannimus]] 

message: If they refuse to go school, they will be expelled. University is not a school. 100.2.114.167 (talk) 20:45, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excluded from University