Talk:Eustachian tube

message: WHY???   I am asking the question...   'Why does almost every 'image' [diagram] of the Eu tube show the top end, but NOT the bottom end???    including 'Gray's Anatomy'  [the medical reference book, not the TV show]...   WHY?   I have had problems equalizing the air pressure in my ears when we came down from the mountains when I was a teen...   and when I fly on airplanes, every time...   I cant get 'into' my ear (at the top end), I use an anti-histamine to effect things at the lower end, where the Eu tube goes to the 'inferior nasal cavity'...   I will FIND a pic and put it in the article...    dNorm 03:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images  

message: The two main figures share only one common term (Eustachian Tube) and that appears to have been added. It raises questions that I can't answer like "Do the Malleus and Incus in the bottom figure define the parts of the Ossicles in the upper figure?" Any help in replacing these two figures with one or more better figures would be helpful. Thanks.
:Ossicles = Malleus, Incus, Stapes
:Ear drum = Tympanum = Tympanic Membrane
:Ear Canal = Auditory Canal
:AerobicFox (talk) 19:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linkage between Figures 

message: Have had problems with my Eustachian tube for 5 days. My doctor thinks thinks this is a bi product of a heavy cold which has hung around this February. He has prescribed a nasal spray to clear my lingerring chest infection.
Are there any miracle cures out there? Would welcome an email from anyone with help? grapow@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.41.218.45 (talk • contribs) 01:53, April 24, 2005
:  one word...   Chlor-Trimeton [brand name] ...   buy a bottle of the 'store-brand' [generic] '4-hour' pill, a hundred for about $5...   regards...   dNorm 03:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any miracle cures? 

message: What, are there pseudo-stachian tubes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.208.51 (talk • contribs) 15:10, February 16, 2007
: help me i dont know what the eustachian tube does.... -xoxo- -zaranian- g6 needing your help- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.231.240 (talk) 12:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eustachian 

message: The paragraph starting with "Behind the nose and up above the tonsils" is verbatim from Chapter 6 of Dr. Gerald Poesnecker's "It's Only Natural."  Could that count as fair use? BradAGrantham 19:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation? 

message: The article said that when a person who has voluntary control over the muscles opens or closes the 'tubes, they are forced to breathe. As one of these people, I can certainly say that this is not the case. I've deleted the misinformation - if it turns out that I'm just a freak of nature, you can find it in the history. -Warriorness 22:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to sort of force myself to breathe (except when sleeping). I doubt that this is related I think a lot of people don't breathe deep enogh. PS I can control my ear pressure as well. My girlfrind thinks I'm lying when I talk to her about it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.167.129 (talk) 22:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  For what it's worth, I can perform this action while completely blocking my airway. It's definitely not linked to breathing, although an individuals learned method of controlling these muscles may be breath dependent. 66.118.149.200 (talk) 10:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breathing? 

message: I have had issues with my ears for a number of years now. On a 'specialists' advice I had surgery on my septum to straighten it - supposedly to eleviate my ear stress. This changed nothing. The air just does not flow properly. All the medical tests say I am fine. I have hearing loss so bad at times I can't talk on the phone. Does anybody have any advice at all??? - Desperate! bluebery@telus.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heidiblueberry (talk • contribs) 22:48, June 19, 2007
: I'm pretty sure mine are related to poor posture/neck and back issues. I find if lie in bed on my side with a pillow underneath my armpit and rest my head flat on another pillow my eustachian tubes pretty much stay open in that position. --72.39.75.155 (talk) 04:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eustacian tube problems!! 

message: What part of the eustachian tube causes the popetyclickety sound?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.228.0 (talk) 06:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The following mechanism is just a guess, but:  The muscle that is under voluntary control in opening the eustachian tube, the tensor veli palatini, shares innervation with the tensor typmani muscle and these are both active during mastication. (The tensor tympani tightens to quiet the noise of chewing)  Voluntarily contracting the TVP might also activate the TT and cause a clicking noise as the ossicles move.  So, it might be that no part of the tube makes a noise.  It's just a floppy meat hose anyway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.104.29 (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The surface tension of the moisture in the tube, breaking. This happens so close to the inner ear, that you can hear it internally while you wouldn't hear it next to your ear, for instance. Kind of like a bubble popping, if you will. 66.118.149.200 (talk) 10:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popityclickety 

message: 16/03/2010 - Edit: Added the french reference to Voluntary tube opening (BTV). Deleted the Frenzel Maneuver link, that maneuver has nothing to do with Voluntary tube opening, since it's a method that requires nose pinch, same as valsava, so it doesn't count as a voluntary opening of the tubes, it is a pressure-forced opening.  - Alejandro Sastre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.126.93.56 (talk) 17:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still a manual means to equalize the pressure, which is the topic of that section. JeramieHicks (talk) 03:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voluntary tube opening 

message: The Terminologia Anatomica, the offical medical dictionary does not recognize the name Eustachian tube ( as it is derived of the name of an anatomist ). In the same way, names of all similarly named structures were replaced by proper and recognized nomenclature. Therefore it is illogical to have Pharyngotympanic tube redirected to Eustachian tube instead of vice versa!! Change of page name recommended!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.243.70 (talk) 23:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Typically the common name is used on Wikipedia, so when Eustachian tube becomes obsolete the title of this article will be replaced. The name pharyngotympanic tube is still relatively new, to the extent that one of my instructors had never heard of the term.AerobicFox (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just checking in from 2021! Students of anatomy in medical school continue to be taught the term "pharyngotympanic tube" almost exclusively; every textbook has it as such. Anecdotally, my class this year was told that we would not be receiving credit for "Eustachian tube" on our exams. But, it is also my understanding that in a clinical context the term "Eustachian" continues to be used. Perhaps this should be revisited, as it has been approximately one decade since the "relatively new" term has been the standard anatomical term. Userbrn (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an interesting question, though it makes me feel old! My experience is that Eustachian tube is still predominant in everyday clinical practice (UK). More importantly from an article naming point of view, Eustachian tube has a general level of understanding in the population that I think will continue to mean it remains the common name for the foreseeable future. As such, I would suggest keeping the current set up for now. |→ Spaully ~talk~  21:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: My unscientific observation is that "Eustachian tube" continues to be the WP:COMMONNAME. It may not be what's taught in med schools, but most people are not med students or medical doctors, so that's not a particularly pertinent factor. TJRC (talk) 23:18, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eustachian tube name 

message: Some important zoology questions not mentioned here:
* Is the Eustachian tube present in all mammals, or just some? Currently only humans and horses are mentioned.
* Is it present in reptiles and other species? 
DMahalko (talk) 10:30, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I imagine all mammals have them, as well as probably any land dwelling creature with ears. At the very least some type of tube is needed to equalize the pressure of the air within the inner ear with the pressure from outside, so anything with a tympanic membrane will likely have something like this to fulfill that function(but for all I know there could really be hundreds of exceptions or other ways some other animals have to do this).AerobicFox (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would appear that auditory detection could work with a permanently fluid filled inner ear, and which would not require pressure balancing. DMahalko (talk) 16:40, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presence in other animals? 

message: (Yeah yeah, Wikipedia is not for OR, which is why this is on the talk page.) 
So anyway I seem to have discovered a better way to direct air into one ear or the other when experiencing an inner ear infection. The usual suggested way is to pinch the nose shut and pressurize the inner nasal cavity very gently, but this often results in air entering the "wrong" ear since the one with problems is already plugged up.
It appears that tugging/wiggling the earlobe on the side when I want the air to go helps to partially open the Eustachion tube on that the side of my head where I want the air to go and make the air only go to that ear.
I am not aware of this method being described anywhere else. DMahalko (talk) 16:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equalizing one side by lobe tugging 

message: This is another (OR, alas) option for getting air into one specific inner ear region when one of the Eustachian tubes is plugged with an infection or just not cooperating.
While pinching the nose, apply slight pressure with the end of your thumb of your other hand over the ear canal of the ear where you DON'T want the air to go, and then gently pressurize the nasal cavity.
Covering the opposite side ear canal and pressing in with the thumb slightly pressurizes the outer ear canal and eardrum, making it more likely that air will enter the other inner ear cavity through the fluid-blocked tube.
DMahalko (talk) 13:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equalizing: cover and externally pressurize the other ear canal 

message: Needless fragmentation to be separate; would improve quality of information and readability of displayed on the same page. Could be re-expanded at a later date if necessary. LT910001 (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections in 9 months, so . --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Bony part of pharyngotympanic tube]] 

message: As above. LT910001 (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections in 9 months, so . --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Cartilage of pharyngotympanic tube]] 

message: Is there any information available about the average diameter of the Eustachian tube for adult men and women? I am aware it probably varies in diameter along the length of the tube. Is there a direct proportional relationship between the diameter of the skull and the size of the tube? I assume yes.
I don't know how to get more detail about this question, other than asking a hospital to do an elective MRI of my own head so I can examine the 3D scan data myself.
-- DMahalko (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diameter of Eustachian tube? 

message: Needless fragmentation, can easily be represented in a single article Tom (LT) (talk) 00:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Pharyngeal opening of auditory tube]] 

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