Talk:Pollinator decline

message: There's a citation needed tag for the claim that people are increasingly more likely to sue beekeepers, even if it was a wasp sting. I've found this letter to the editor in NYT but I can't find the original article. Obviously one article isn't a trend, and further, it isn't clear whether the defendant was a beekeeper. However, perhaps the sentance could comment on the NYT headline mentioning bees despite the involvement of wasps. Keepstherainoff (talk) 10:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hive destruction> Citation for sueing after wasp sting 

message: Found an interesting article today so just posting this here: http://www.minnpost.com/earth-journal/2015/03/marla-spivak-grasp-our-bees-plight-and-prospects-stay-focused-food
Not quite reliable for general claims, but quotes from one of the more well known bee researchers out there could be useful. With my entomologist hat on, she covers the status of the field pretty well. Taking it off, I'd rather find the sources behind what she's discussing before editing the article or other related ones. Either way, just posting it in case anyone gets any ideas for quotes that might be useable or just for ideas to pursue.
With all this in mind, it might be time to start refocusing the suite of bee/pollinator decline type articles to mesh them up better (a lot of things in the articles don't match up with what the science says). I'm still pondering what to do in other articles, but I'm happy to discuss any ideas other folks have. Kingofaces43 (talk) 20:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direction for article? 

message: Came across another source I'll just leave here for now: http://bip2.beeinformed.org/geo/. It's a very primary source as a survey of a beekeepers, so we would need to be careful about not attributing facts such as X% mortality occurred when it's based on a survey along with issues related to self-reporting. Synthesizing the data from the site would seem to go beyond WP:CALC at this point, but it looks like something worthwhile to continue checking out for summaries they may put out. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source 

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message: I don't have time right now, or the commitment to this subject, but these two articles would be well worth extracting juicy bits for inclusion in the Consequences section. They're both more recent than the other sources for that section. Do Pollinators Contribute to Nutritional Health?  Contribution of Pollinator-Mediated Crops to Nutrients in the Human Food Supply Jbening (talk) 18:55, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grist for your mill 

message: The section “Possible Explanations” of this article obtains a lengthy paragraph about “Pesticide use,” and it is easy to notice that most of this section pertains to it. This could be the result of the statement that the decline in pollinators is an effect of the use of pesticides and insecticides, it could be merely coincidental. However, it could also be perceived as being over-represented in contrast to the other explanations. Even though the use of pesticides is a viable explanation, so are the other ones that are mentioned. The other probable causes of pollinator decline mentioned consist of one paragraph, while “Rapid transfer of parasites and diseases of pollinator species around the world” and “Changes in seasonal behavior due to global warming” consists of two sentences. This could be a result of there being insufficient references pertaining to these topics in their relevance to pollinator decline. For the purposes of furthering the article, it would be interesting to see if there is even more information about those other "Possible Explanations" of this phenomena. 
This is not to say that the editors of this page have not done so, I am just curious. I did not see much of a discussion about the lack of information on the other probable causes of pollinator decline, so I wanted to know if others have found it difficult to find that information. I could also not have enough knowledge about this subject to know if pesticides take up so much of that section because they are the leading/main cause, or not.
Cmennona95 (talk) 04:24, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Sources/Information about "Possible Explanations" ?  

message: For the moderate length of this article, there are many references within it, 35 to be exact. For my observation, very statistic I saw was followed by a reference, as well as every fact and statement that needed some level of expertise that I noticed was supported by a reference. I even clicked on a few of the links and was satisfied by what I saw, in terms of the reference’s credibility. However, when it comes to topics like this one, I find it hard to tell if references are specifically for explanatory purposes. For instance, are the authors of those references that pertain to the role of pesticides in the decline of pollinators just explaining a facet of this phenomena or are they trying to eradicate the use of pesticides? It is sometimes difficult to determine the motives of authors, unless there is easily detectable evidence, like if they have any connection to specific interests groups. Furthermore, I could see that the words that were discipline-oriented were made into links that were explained and defined in other Wikipedia articles, which made it easy to make myself familiar with words and concepts I had no prior knowledge of. 
The article is very well documented from what I could tell, which made the read easier to follow.
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message: If there are any studies which visually show the decline of pollinators on a graph, those would be very useful for this page. Mapmaker345 (talk) 16:45, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for graphs 

message: It was reported February 2020, a study raised concerns the effects of global warming increases in frequency of high wind speeds so that bees and other flying pollinators may struggle.Patrick Barkham Bees may struggle in winds caused by global warming, study finds; Experiment revealed increased wind speeds reduced the efficiency of their foraging 18 February 2020 theguardian.com
X1\ (talk) 23:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effects of global warming related wind effecting bees, add? 

message: 35% of crop production depends on bees.
See List of most valuable crops and livestock products. Actual production is around 6%. Maybe they are talking about value?  Leo Breman (talk) 10:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info too doubtful 

message: I only came across these two articles by chance and am not sure what's the best approach here, considering both articles are a couple of years old already. Could someone with more insight in this topic (and who's more familiar with the rules and guidelines in the English WP) have a look, please? Thanks! Tkarcher (talk) 08:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I would find it doubtful a merge would be helpful. The insect article is a loose amalagam of random studies rather than an encyclopedic article still needing a lot of work, and this is about a very specific subset of insects and issues there. Often times it's already difficult to address the pollinator subject without focus, so it helps to keep it as a separate article. KoA (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible merge with [[Decline in insect populations]]