Talk:WZZM

message: This information is commonplace to nearly every news producing station in the nation. There are literally too many of these stations with this information listed to name here. User:Mvcg66b3r should respect this fact and stop removing this information unless a site wide effort is taken to remove it from all television station pages. There is no reason to single out this page for attack and not have the information listed. Reason WP:NOTTVGUIDE does not apply as this is not a program guide for the station, but a cited list of news productions similar to publishing schedule for a newspaper or list of productions for a national outlet like CNN.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.8.48.8 (talk) 00:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What's your take? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: First place I went was to see if the issues and programs list had this info—sometimes you do get lucky. It doesn't. We're not a TV guide. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:07, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

text: @Mvcg66b3r compromise edit is fine with me. This is just very common information across the site, and I feel it needs to be listed on the page to some degree. 167.8.48.8 (talk) 01:34, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that I can't point it to a reliable source in most cases. I've been rewriting dozens of pages on TV stations to Good Article standard (in this market, WZZM and WOTV so far). And there is no RS I can use to cite that information in many cases. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:00, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newscast Times and Hours 

message: Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in articles. Including this type of material in articles does not abide by current consensus and its inclusion is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:
#WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information."  As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.  
#As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced. 
# WP:Source list tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article. 
#Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.
If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable.  Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). If a preexisting article is already in the encyclopedia for the person you want to add to a list, it's generally regarded as sufficient to support their inclusion in list material in another article. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 18:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material