Talk:Bala Lake

message: I added that little sentance at the bottom, feel free to expand. - iGod 07:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bala Watersports 

message: Looking at the other articles, and the web traffic this article recieves, it does not deserve High status. Dropping to mid.
 
I've heard that Bala lake used to be a town and they flooded it from another vally. When the waters really low you can see the tops of church spire !  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.255.209 (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong lake, never flooded from another valley, no town. Have a look at Llyn Celyn for something nearer the truth, but even here it was a village not a town, and it didn't involve flooding from another valley, and no church spire either.  Velella  Velella Talk   22:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance

message: Since at least one editor seems adamant that the term "Bala Lake" should not be used, even though it is the title of the article (and the name used by several tourist information sites), perhaps the article should be moved to Llyn Tegid, rather than the redirect being the other way around? Tony Holkham (Talk) 16:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The official name is Llyn Tegid as represented on OS maps  and used by Natural Resources Wales the organisation responsible for managing lakes and rivers in Wales.  Velella  Velella Talk   18:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how to do this, as Llyn Tegid already exists as a redirect to Bala Lake. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

text: Just a note for the record; the online OS mapping that I've looked at today (three different sites using OS material) uses the (Eng/Cymr) form 'Bala Lake/Llyn Tegid at 25K scale mapping and 'BALA LAKE/LLYN TEGID' at 50K, though switches to simply 'Llyn Tegid' when further zoomed out. Oddly, when zoomed in further than the 25K mapping, it switches to (Cymr/Eng) 'Llyn Tegid / Bala Lake', as noted above. It would seem that OS applies different language policies at different scales (and online v. print) - or conceivably are just disorganised in this matter! Geopersona (talk) 13:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: OS might not have a consistent language policy e.g. it uses the bilingual Aberdyfi/Aberdovey for the village at the Dyfi estuary when I zoom in but just uses the anglicised Aberdovey after zooming out although the Welsh language spelling is more common locally and is favoured by the Welsh Government and the Gwynedd Council. My guess is that OS might be following the Westminster government's policy considering the anglicised Aberdovey is used by agencies once nationalised by the central government e.g. Royal Mail and BT but I have so far not been able to find a straight answer. Tk420 (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: My own measurements suggest that Llyn Tegid amounts to only 4.17 sq km. The discrepancy is perhaps accounted for by the fact that the quoted figure comes from https://rsis.ramsar.org/ris/535 and, if the line on the map defining the extent of the Ramsar site is accurate then it rather exceeds the area of the actual waterbody, taking in land particularly at the southwest end. This is of course original research on my part so cannot be included in either article but does suggest what true figures might look like if and when an editor finds a suitable reference out there! cheers Geopersona (talk) 19:39, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Areal extent of lake 

message: " It was the largest natural body of water in Wales before its level was raised by Thomas Telford to provide water for the Ellesmere Canal (later Llangollen Canal). "
If the level was raised, one would expect the lake to become even larger, very likely in area and most certainly in volume; anyway, the point is, either it was STILL the largest etc. (in which case the sentence is badly phrased: it should have been "it was already the largest... even before its level was raised...) or it wasn't the largest anymore, in which case we should be explicitly told so - and why.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.66.3.116 (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the point is that it was the largest natural body of water prior to this event, but though it was larger afterwards, it could no longer be considered natural but artificial. So it was the largest natural body of water in Wales but is no longer. As an aside, the modification is less than that which was made to some other lakes/lochs in the UK and some will still consider it largely natural but that's a judgement call. Geopersona (talk) 06:34, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing sentence about size