Talk:Proton Savvy

message: This topic on the Proton Savvy's build quality, security and safety was added in recently but was deleted by someone who was perhaps unhappy with the fact the ratings were below average. The person who deleted this has very shallow thinking in my opinion. Wikipedia articles are created to enrich knowledge of information seekers. It is only fair that all parties include all relevant information they know about a subject. If anyone can dispute the factuality of anything written within the mentioned topic, please bring it up here. Do note that all information has been provided with relevant sources of reference.
Any party with a appropriate reason to delete this article may bring up his/her reasoning here. RHaworth  
"Some foreign automotive magazines also criticized hard plastic walling on the back of front seats as it could pose a hazard during frontal accidents if the rear passengers were thrown towards it."
This is factual incorrect. There are no hard plastics on the back of front seats. Hard plastic dash is the defacto standard for similar cars in its class ie myvi, aveo, picanto etc so why singled out this car for incorporating the similar material which are environmentally compliant. Why highlight only 2 negative reviews when they are other above par reviews from others - ie. the aussie reviews
The British car mags are bias as they consistently give poor reviews for french and non-jap cars.
Proof the antifans were here where the design of the bonnet was described like "toilet bowl" which was a blatant attempt to unfairly critise the car.
-autofreak
Attn : Autofreak
If you feel there are some positive reviews you need to add in please do by all means. Do not delete this article. Though I'm not the author of the title "safety, build reviews', I fully support it and feel IT SHOULD NOT be deleted. Just because you don't agree with somethings do not delete it. We are not talking about other cars e.g. Myvi, Aveo here as the article is not combined. If you feel somethings on those topics should be added, add it there with relevant sources. Should you be able to cite any sources backing your claim, please put it up here. The author of this article had included relevant sources from reliable origins, please take note. Do realise that what you are doing can be counted as vandalism and I can report you to the wikifoundation having your IP Address blocked. Please be more rational in your actions for the good of this free encyclopedia. It also isn't appropriate and childish to brand the British car magazines as you did. Their reviews are widely accepted with your views not accounted for. I suggest you start your own Automag rather than mess this site up with all your views. We are not here to view other peoples reviews about a topic, we're looking for sourced facts -Thats Wikipedia.
AND WIKIPEDIA ISN"T SUPPOSED TO BE A CAR REVIEW SITE, it should be neutral and shouldn't be too judgemental, the review gives too much false impression, the added safety features was long awaited..there are many brands in the local market which doesn't even have single airbag for any of their baseline model lineup...if you have problem with that. I can complain to wikifoundation too, there was no attempt of defacing the site.
-autofreak
To be fair to all, the postive reviews should be added together with the original reviews which apparently was the work of antifans - the fans of Perodua myvi. It should be taken down in the meantime.
-autofreak
There's no harm in adding both pros and cons of a car as long it's sourced from a legitimate source. I don't own a savvy or myvi what so ever. Well you can see most other Proton pages and notice they have a write up on pros and cons, for example see the article for Proton Wira.
=== Agreed, article about cars should not be biased ===
I agree with you. An article about a car model should not be biased as it will spark fights among Wikipedians. We don't want this to happen. Yeah, I never own any of those cars, but I want to say this in order to be neutral.
Maybe there are defects on certain car models, but it doesn't mean that we are always free co give negative, destructive comments about them or the manufacturers may sue you in the court if they know your identity. That's just the same reason as why computer game producers don't include damage effects on cars in their racing games. 219.93.36.93 13:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHY WAS THE TITLE CAR BUILD, SAFETY AND SECURITY DELETED ? 

message: I agree with you. An article about a car model should not be biased as it will spark fights among Wikipedians. We don't want this to happen. Yeah, I never own any of those cars, but I want to say this in order to be neutral.
Maybe there are defects on certain car models, but it doesn't mean that we are always free co give negative, destructive comments about them or the manufacturers may sue you in the court if they know your identity. That's just the same reason as why computer game producers don't include damage effects on cars in their racing games. 219.93.36.93 13:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agreed, article about cars should not be biased