Talk:Royal Military Academy Sandhurst

message: The American Army has no equivelent to the Royal Sandhurst Military Academy.  We used to have Naval Air Cadet and Air Force Air Cadet programs that lasted about 18 months.  At these schools, cadets learned how to fly airplanes and be an officer.  These schools were followed up by more specific training.  Entrance into these schools did not require a college degree.  The Air Force cadet school was replaced by the Air Force Academy.  
:I like the British system for training officers.  The cost of a University Education is getting extremely expensive in the USA.  A 44 week school might be a great way for the US Army to develope another generation of Army Officers without asking people to go into serious debt. 
:Have you never heard of College ROTC?  They can give people full rides through college as long as they commit to military service afterwards.  Also, there are the military academies (USMA for Army, USNA for Navy, etc), but they are more like 44+ months than 44 weeks.
How can Winston Churchill be an alumnus of the school if it was established in 1947? I doubt he attended a military academy after being Prime Minister.
:He attended when it was the Royal Military College - same institution, different name. Greylin
User 80.229.234.246 appears to have changed the names of the commissioning course companies, for example from Blenheim Company to Falklands Company. However, the Sandhurst website  gives the names previously listed on this page.  Can anyone confirm the names of the Sandhurst companies? Are they as stated in the present article, or as they are on the Sandhurst website? LJade728 04:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The company names vary each term.  As at 10 Aug 06 they are correct. Greylin
where is it?
Sandhurst ;-)  I'll add something about the location now - Khendon
Further to this, while there are certain battles that are usually prevelant as Company names, I'm pretty sure that the Company Commander and/or Company Sergeant Major get some sort of say; a Parachute Regiment CSM often chooses Arnhem as a name (a Scots Guardsman, Gurkha etc probably grabbed The Falkland Islands). --Thebigman 16:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: On today's (12-April-2006) BBC Radio 4 Today programme, there were two people discussing Prince Harry's graduation from Sandhurst. One of them, a UK national newspaper editor, said he'd been reading this article earlier in the morning, in response to the accusation he knew nothing about Sandhurst. 195.173.23.111 08:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioned on the radio 

message: Currently, there's no information on Royal Military College in the article? The academy is post-WW2 entity, but the COllege would be of interest in Military History perspective. Anyone up to write the article on the college or expanding the history on 'Sandhurst' page?
--131.207.236.198 12:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Information about the history of the Royal Military College Sandhurst, founded in 1800, and admitting junior cadets for training as company officers from 1802, is available on the RMA Sandhurst website: url=http://www.sandhurst.mod.uk/history/history5.htm. Agemegos 01:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RMC Sandhurst 

message: Of all of the graduates of Sandhurst, this article states that there is precisely one notable alumnus, that being Prince Leka of Albania, who isn't all that notable to me.  I've got to believe that there are many more.  Pop singer James Blunt would currently be one of the more notable.  I'm guessing this section needs improvement.  Orangemarlin 03:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I question the value of a notable alumni section as, according to my reading of the article, every modern British Army officer in wikipedia could be included on the list.  Perhaps there should be a category "Category:Sandhurst graduates" or something along those lines, or maybe a seperate alumni article.  Just my two cents. --Cjs56 16:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Prince Leka is probably the least notable alumni!!!  Every royal family member, every recent British general, and who knows who else would be in this category.  And how are we to determine who is notable and who isn't.  I'm going to delete the section, and if you could add the category, that would be great.  We're being bold!!!  Orangemarlin 17:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I am reading this right, it seems that Sandhurst is similar in function to either Officer Candidates School (U.S. Marine Corps) or Basic School, which makes me question if there should be either a category or list of alumni.  The notable alumni presents its own list of problems that Orangemarlin mentioned, and for that reason I'd suggest going for the category.  Cornell Rockey 02:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A category has been created called "Category:Sandhurst graduates".  Please feel free to add people as appropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cjs56 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: I can find no evidence of attendance at RMAS. He was TA and may have attended but no websites, including his own, mention RMAS. --MJB 11:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bear Grylls]] 

message: There does not seem to mention on the explorers page.  Probably the most famouse and interesting of them all!  Joined Scots Greys, was at the time the youngest ever person to attain the rank of Capt, Seconded then to SAS then finished his military carea serving with in the Sultan of Omans army, where he was awarded their highest military award.Paulmcgrory (talk) 09:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranulph Fiennes? 

message: This article should contain a section on the theory and practice of leadership taught at RMAS, and how it has changed over the years. Deipnosophista (talk) 11:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leadership approach 

message: Please don't just delete the fact tags before you find references for those facts.  Also, the references actually have to support the assertions made in the article, for example, the article needs a reference saying this was the sole establishment for training officers starting in 1947.  Finally, Wikipedia wiki links don't count, see WP:CIRCULAR, WP:CITE and WP:V if you have questions.  Thanks for your contributions!
Kirk (talk) 19:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  References questions 

message: "Royal Military Academy Sandhurst" sounds very american. Why not just Sandhurst?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.205.3 (talk) 16:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the title 

message: You forgot to mention some countries which have also sent their cadets to Sandhurst for training, to mention Belize and Guatemala. As far as I know, Belize sends at least two OCdts per year, while Guatemala sent one a year from 1995 to 2005, being the last a female OCdt. 
I was the second Guatemalan to attend (Ruben Tellez, CC963, 26Pl Amiens). Something else which is not mentioned anywere is the term "floppy" which was sweetly dedicated to overseas cadets, and its various meanings. 
All in all, RMAS is a great experience, and I do seriously wish we trained our officers that way here in Guatemala, but our reality is different. I keep wishing I could go back there.
Regards.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.56.43.93 (talk) 17:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  more Alumni 

message: Where is the evidence for most of these notable alumni?
The King ofSaudi Arabia is listed, however, after much searchingthere is no mention of his time at Sandhurst on the Saudi British embassy (which you think there would be?) or on any other online biography I can find (except ones that are directly lifted from here!). I have not been able to find a written biography of him either. I cannot find any mention of him on the Sandhurst website either. If no-one objects I shall delete.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.143.150 (talk) 11:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: it was common for foreign royalty and other persons to attend using their given names as opposed to the names they assumed upon ascending the throne. For example some subsequent rulers attended whilst still princes rather than as reigning kings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.53.180 (talk) 17:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: Can someone please include His Highness the Sultan of Terengganu's name as one of the notable alumni? There is evidence, as at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizan_Zainal_Abidin_of_Terengganu . Please put his name under a 'Malaysia' header in the Royalty section.
175.144.9.120 (talk) 10:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysian Royalty attending RMAS 

message: I've replaced the image of New College with a higher resolution image which is in focus. Two images of the Chapel are added and an image of the Old College. If helpful I also have images of the library - cf the historical image of the cricket field; and images of the original training college in the grounds that became an administrative building and images of the Churchill Theatre. If an editor thinks these would add to the article I'll upload them. WyrdLight (talk) 20:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: This article is in the publicity mode, with subjective claims of performance not measurable, verifiable.Dmermerci (talk) 16:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have toned down where the information has not already been deleted. Dormskirk (talk) 10:23, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedia 

message: A lot of the difficulties with this article stem from the issue that there is a long list of unsourced alumni names. This means the article is too long, is largely unsourced and it is unbalanced (there are more interesting aspects to the subject than the alumni names). I therefore propose to move the alumni to a separate article probably entitled "List of alumni of the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst". It will still be unsourced and would be tagged as such but at least it will help facilitate a clean-up of this article. Dormskirk (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Now completed. Dormskirk (talk) 10:56, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: The foundation of the military college which became Sandhurst was almost entirely the work of one man, John Le Marchant, who died a hero's death at the Battle of Salamanca.  That his name is not mentioned in the article is a surprising omission.Urselius (talk) 08:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Now corrected. Dormskirk (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founder not mentioned 

message: Hello, I recently read about a monument which where moved from a german town Wendisch Evern to the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst in 1958 of the surrender of northwest germany. The monument should still be there, according to the articles. Unfortunately I cant find anything about this in this article. Maybe someone with more knowledge about this topic can add this to the article.
The sources are: Timeloberg und Victory Hill (German) -  Timeloberg and Victory Hill (Englisch Translated) 
and Kapitulation auf dem Timeloberg bei Lüneburg (German) - Surrender to the Timeloberg in Lüneburg (English translated) --Flor!an (talk) 16:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monument of Victory Hill 

message: According to the following article (written by a US Naval Academy professor), Sandhurst used to grant degrees, but no longer does so. However, I have heard that the British academies (Sandhurst, Dartmouth and Cranwell) have never been degree-granting institutions in their history. Which is correct?  Axeman (talk) 23:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Were degrees ever granted by Sandhurst? 

message: In checking on the references to this article I found the reference 18 was no longer accessible through the link provided. Grateful if someone more adept than I am at retrieval could try to find a better link. Biodiplomacy (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, Biodiplomacy. Moonraker (talk) 11:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unavailable reference 

message: The article states that the RMC was used as an RAC OCTU from 1942.
In May 1946, I was commissioned into the General List (Infantry) from Sandhurst and at that time no Royal Armoured Corps training was done at Sandhurst.
Incidentally, the OCTU adjutant, at that time, was Captain the Earl of Cathcart who had, I understand, refused promotion in order to remain as adjutant.
My passing out parade was taken by Prince Bernhardt of the Netherlands and the POP  immediately preceding mine was taken by Her Royal Highness Princess Elizabeth. 77.100.4.108 (talk) 13:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is just possible that it was used as RAC OCTU from 1942 to 1945. Does that fit with your own recollections? Dormskirk (talk) 13:49, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  161 OCTU 

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