Talk:Ka'b al-Ahbar

message: I just went through the article and read the references which are clearly from Shia perspectives like Al-Islam.org a notoriously pro Shia site. 82.132.224.213 (talk) 12:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: One vague Jewish source and a host of unreliable Shia references stop edit warring Emir. 82.132.241.176 (talk) 13:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a difference between a vauge source and a unreliable sources. What hose of unreliable references are there, Shia or otherwise. If you don't want an edit war to start then don't make any more edits and just suggest them here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Could the IP be the same as above? Both have 82.132 at the beginning. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:39, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only Shia allegations and sources 

message: IP (82.132.241.176) added the tag. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:37, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: One vague Jewish source and a host of unreliable Shia references stop edit warring Emir. 82.132.241.176 (talk) 13:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a difference between a vauge source and a unreliable sources. What hose of unreliable references are there, Shia or otherwise. If you don't want an edit war to start then don't make any more edits and just suggest them here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Could the IP be the same as above? Both have 82.132 at the beginning. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:39, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable 

message: Please discuss why you want to remove the information. Keep in mind WP:OSE and that what is on other articles is irrelevant. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That sourced information has been heavily refuted in the body of the text. A misleading attempt to paint him as the developer of Sunni traditions. Plus like Abdullah Ibn Saba which is a related article several sources state he is from the Shia school of thought but this is censored due to sectarian agendas and editors like Emir only riasing voices against Sunni editors. Hence I will always remove it. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 16:48, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where has that information been refuted in the text body heavily or otherwise? What happens on Abdullah ibn Saba' is not relevant as per WP:OSE. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Your either playing dumb or just are a editor with an agenda. Read the intro the jewish sources also refute the rabbi who claims he started the Sunni tradition. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am not playing dumb. You are correct that I have an agenda, it is to make this article follow the guidelines of Wikipedia to the best of my ability. The sources refute the claim that he started the Sunni tradition, as in he didn't found it. Just because he was the founder doesn't mean he wasn't a follower.  Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

text:  Stop sending me pointless warnings and read the dam intro stop being such a drama queen. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   My warnings are not pointless. You stop being a drama queen. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   This page is also a biography of a person and hence his alleged and may I repeat ALLEGED sunni faith is not supposed to be here. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 18:03, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

text: We can remove the bit about him being Sunni then and just include the bit about him being Muslim. Please read WP:UNDUE and WP:NEUTRAL before using those words here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Calling him Muslim would eradicate the sectarian tone of the edit implying he was Sunni was sectarian in my view due to the tone of the article. Just add muslim thanks. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of sourced information. 

message: A jewish author from Yale disputes his sunni influences and suggests they are a legends used to refute Islam and Quran and another source suggests he had little influence on Sunni thought only a jewish rabbi and another source state he influenced Sunni thought NONE state explicitly that he was a Sunni muslim. It is thus undue and not neutral to mislead on infoboxes of a persons biography.ShaniAli1lo (talk) 18:09, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We can remove the bit about him being Sunni then and just include the bit about him being Muslim. Please read WP:UNDUE and WP:NEUTRAL before using those words here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Calling him Muslim would eradicate the sectarian tone of the edit implying he was Sunni was sectarian in my view due to the tone of the article. Just add muslim thanks. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refutes about his alleged influence on Sunni thought 

message: I can understand why some confuse Mati' and Mani'. The two words are so similar in Arabic language writing مانع and ماتع. The only differece between them is one dot that some people might count it two dots (if there is a printing issue). Mani is the right one per all of RS in Arabic.--SharabSalam (talk) 01:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not completely sure about his name!! I know that his name is Mani' مانع from some Arabic books. I also know that the name Mani' is common in rural areas of Yemen. While Mati' means "wait" in Arabic  SharabSalam (talk) 07:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mati' and Mani'