Talk:Victoria, Hong Kong

message: I emailed the San Francisco office of the HK Economic and Trade office, since they are speak much better English.  I was very clear about the terms Victoria City and capital in my query.  I have removed identifying information from this response, like the others.  If you want to ask for yourself, feel free, the URL remains.  Not only did he say "does not have a Victoria City" but he underlined the word "not".  Are we done now?
 Thank you for your mail.
 
 Being a Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China,
 Hong Kong is a city with just above 1,100 square kilometers of total area
 covering Hong Kong Island, Kowloon and the New Territories and Islands.
 
 Hong Kong's Victoria Harbour is famous for its deep water ports facilitating
 trade and industry, and also for its picturesque night scenery. Nevertheless,
 we do not have a "Victoria City" nor does Hong Kong have a "capital", either
 before or after the 1997 handover.
 
 Here are a few websites with information which might be of interest to you:
 Government Information Center
 http://www.info.gov.hk/eindex.htm
 A to Z Index
 http://www.info.gov.hk/topic_f.htm
 About Hong Kong
 http://www.info.gov.hk/ef3.htm
 
 We also have some publications which I think would facilitate your research.
 If you would kindly let me have your postal address, I would be happy to send
 you the publications.
 
 Thank you for your interest in Hong Kong and look forward to hearing from you.
 
 Best reards,
  -xx-
 --------------------------------------------
 
 Public Relations Officer
 Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office
 San Francisco
 Web site: http://www.hongkong.org
and then, moments later, another email appeared from this persons boss.
 
 This is to supplement my colleague -----'s response to your enquiry.
 
 Hong Kog has never been a country - it's a Bristish crown colony before
 reverting back to China in 1997.
 
 When the British first took over the Hong Kong Island in the early 1840's,
 a town was built near the waterfront of the Victoria Hoarbor where the present
 Central District area situate, and the place was known as the city of Victoria.
 Howver, that name (Victoria City) has long been eclipsed by Central District in
 popular usage.  (You may refer to p.17 of "A Modern History of Hong Kong" by Steve
 Tsang).  While Central District has long been the financial and adminstrative
 cluster in Hong Kong, this area should not be referred to the "capitol" as Hong Kong
 has never been a country.      
 
 I hope that helps your report writing.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 Deputy Director (Public Relations)
 Hong Kong Economic & Trade Office
 San Francisco
 Website: http://www.hongkong.org 
Now, can we put this ENTIRELY to rest? (added by SchmuckyTheCat at 03:00 and 03:05, Mar 12, 2005)
:Thanks for telling where exactly did you write to. It makes life easier to follow up.
:Back to the two e-mails. On one hand, she/he mentioned Hong Kong has no capital. On the other hand the reason why Hong Kong has no capital is because Hong Kong is not and has never been a country. The argument backing the claim was an invalid one.
:The name "Victoria City" or "the City of Victoria" is eclipsed in popular usage, but in legal term it still exists. Furthermore the limits of the City of Victoria do not overlap with the modern-day popular usage of Central.  — Instantnood 14:14, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
::I just knew he wont accept the above. Maybe the next thing we need to do is to email the chief justice.--Huaiwei 14:30, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More email from the HK government 

message: Does anyone know the source for the list of four wans and nine yeuks/districts set (according to article) in 1857? There's a reference to Jason Wordie in this paragraph but this seems to refer to the boundary stones, at least that's all I can find in Wordie's book. The closest that I can find is the following:
* 1844, three districts: Sheungwan, Chungwan, Hawan  (bottom of page 220, source dates to 1895)
* 1866, nine districts: equals list of article but with different spelling , no wans mentioned (page 907, ordinance No. 7 of 1866)
Any pointers to the 1857 source are appreciated. --Matthäus Wander (talk) 21:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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