Talk:Shot (pellet)

message: Need info on the different gauges, the different materials, how the shot is typically pushed out of the gun in modern shotguns, and other types of "shot" like "snake shot" or "00 buck shot".
===Size of Shotgun Pellets===
The article does nothing to explain why shotgun pellets are numbered inversely to their size; i.e. the bigger they are the smaller the number used to designate them.  I, for one, have always wanted to know how this came about.  And who came up with it.
Some data on muzzle velocities, range, damage potential to targets (human and otherwise), different types of pellets (i.e. do military shotguns use special shot?  Does Law Enforcement?
Finally, other, non-shotgun uses for lead spheres are irrelevant given the name of this article and should be included in the general article on lead or, if there's an article on lead's industrial uses, then it should be there.
PainMan (talk) 22:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Info needed

message: The article does nothing to explain why shotgun pellets are numbered inversely to their size; i.e. the bigger they are the smaller the number used to designate them.  I, for one, have always wanted to know how this came about.  And who came up with it.
Some data on muzzle velocities, range, damage potential to targets (human and otherwise), different types of pellets (i.e. do military shotguns use special shot?  Does Law Enforcement?
Finally, other, non-shotgun uses for lead spheres are irrelevant given the name of this article and should be included in the general article on lead or, if there's an article on lead's industrial uses, then it should be there.
PainMan (talk) 22:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Size of Shotgun Pellets

message: I yanked the link to http://seasonshot.com/ because I'm not convinced it's real--it doesn't show up in the USPTO database, and the product isn't on the market yet; I'm betting it's a hoax.  To be effective on game, the sectional density would have to be at least as high as steel, and that seems unlikely to be possible with non-toxic, water soluble materials.  It's also going to have to survive being accelerated from zero to Mach 1 in a couple of milliseconds.  See internal ballistics, external ballistics and terminal ballistics for more information on why this seems so improbable.  scot 16:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Season shot

message: The info on how shot was and is manufactured is currently spread across at least three pages; lead shot, shot tower, and Bliemeister method. We should work to somehow consolidated / correctly link this information so that it appears once and can be maintained. - Davandron | Talk 02:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manufacture 

message: I propose the article "Lead shot" be renamed to "Shot", and the article needs to be re-written to discuss "shot" generically as a projectile, with expansion on the different shot materials. While traditionally lead, shot is now made in a variety of materials which should be expanded upon. I don't think each of these materials requires a separate page e.g. "Bismuth shot", "Tungsten shot", etc., but can be comprehensibly handled on one "Shot" page. Of course in order for this to be done, the name of the page needs to be changed. BBODO (talk) 07:01, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - I came here to point out the very same thing. Socrates2008 (Talk) 11:50, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming this article to "Shot"

message: Don't really see the benefit of shot tower being a separate article when it could be covered under the manufacture section of this one. Socrates2008 (Talk) 11:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shot tower 

message: * Oppose  Shot towers have an architectural significance and often a local history far in excess of being a trivial footnote in a shooting article. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge of [[shot tower]] 

message: The article contains the following text (in the section 'Non-toxic alternatives to lead shot'):
:Within recent years, several companies have created non-toxic shot out of bismuth, tungsten, or other elements or alloys with a density similar to or greater than lead, and with a shot softness that results in ballistic properties that are comparable to lead. These shells provide more consistent patterns than steel shot and provide greater range than steel shot. They are also generally safe to use in older shotguns with barrels and chokes not rated for use with steel shot, such as for bismuth and tungsten-polymer (although not tungsten-iron) shot.
I'm having difficulty understanding this, and especially the last phrase of the last sentence. As best I can tell, it is saying that bismuth and tungsten-polymer shots are examples of steel shot, whilst tungsten-iron is not. That seems counter-intuitive, but I cannot see any other way of reading it. On the other hand I'm no expert; could somebody perhaps rephrase it in simple english that can be more easily understood. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 17:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  text difficult to understand 

message: Shouldn't this page be named something else? Like "Shot (projectile)"? What does "pellet" even mean, exactly? A shot may be a pellet, but its basic use is as a projectile. Round shot is a projectile. That is how you would describe it, not as "a sphere"..45Colt 19:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pellet?