Talk:Clark Kent

message: The footnote suggests that the middle name of "Jerome" might be a reference to Jerry Siegel. But it doesn't suggest that the more commonly used "Joseph" might refer to Joe Shuster. Any reason why this is less likely? Daibhid C 22:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Harold Lloyd? Heh, that fits: the "glasses character" is more athletic than he looks. —Tamfang (talk) 05:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle name 

message: Should we add a character history featuring Clark Kent's exploits during 52 (comics)? ACS (Wikipedian) User talk:Ace Class Shadow 20:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  52: Stop the press 

message: I've added a lot more to the Smallville section of the page. If you read through it you may agree with me on the fact that it'll need editing over time but please don't delete it or ruin it. Son of Kong 04:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smallville 

message: There is a considerable amount of original research in this article without citations. This needs to be rectified in order for this article to continue to exist independent of Superman.Netkinetic | T / C / @ 17:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bit of a Catch 22 - if we keep it, it's an entirely unsourced article, but if it's merged, Superman's article is damaged. - A Link to the Past (talk) 09:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced article needing citations 

message: The cop snaps, "Yeah, and I'm gonna give you a red 'S' and a black 'I' if you don't come out of that phone booth!"
* It looks like it's supposed to be funny, but I don't get it. Knowing me, this will drive me crazy until someone explains. :) 
68.62.227.73 02:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At a guess, "red S" refers to a spanking. —Tamfang (talk) 03:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Bill Cosby used this gag in his comic routine in the 1960s.  It's on one of his very early record albums, and it involves Clark Kent getting busted by the police for taking off his clothes in the phone booth.  "I'm Superman, can't you see this red 'S'?" he maintains; and then the cop snaps ... etc. WHPratt (talk) 16:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

text: That was easy.  Check the article entitled Bill Cosby Is a Very Funny Fellow...Right!.  It's his first album.  You'll see a track called "Superman."  (I listened to these all the time as a kid.) WHPratt (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just wondering... 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Superman 296.jpg

message: Merge or not? Really I see no reason not to merge it (Its not lack of net space merging it, once merged it would weigh the same as both separated, with slight differences in weight as redundance might be avoided now and then. The importance of keeping them together is so those searchign for either data to find it in a single cohesive piece) but I read the decision was to make a merge yet I see no single merger inthis theme.Undead Herle King (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What the heck was decided?

message: Can somebody answer it? Because the discussion closed so fast that nobody had the chance to answer. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Did I ask whether or not there are reliable sources? No I didn't my question was how is Clark any more notable than other superhero's human personalities? you still haven't answered that question yet. Large number of reliable sources doesn't answer anything. How is Clark Kent any more notable than Batman's Bruce Wayne for example? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On wikipedia, notability is determined by the number of reliable sources. He was answering your question pretty directly. Wrad (talk) 16:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, but I still don't get how Clark is any more notable than the others, how would it apply to Clark and not Bryne? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe he isn't more notable, you'd just have to find reliable sources for the others to prove Wayne needs his own article. Wrad (talk) 16:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes there is no reason why Peter Parker won't be split off from Spider-Man if the section on him got large enough and was well sourced enough that it needs a split. The thing is the Clark Kent is probably the best known alter ego of a superhero and so it is no surprise that it is the first one to be split off but that doesn't mean it is the last. (Emperor (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The question I had in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clark Kent|this discussion]] 

message: There is a lot of lose talk about "canon" (see my comments at Talk:Canon (fiction)) and statements like "Other concepts have become the current accepted canon in most modern versions of the Superman myth" raise red flags.
Establishing what is and isn't canon is often a sport for fans and without well sourced statements that there is an actual canon and that this is part of it then it is just reporting speculation and is pretty much original research. (Emperor (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Canon

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Clarksupescompare.jpg

message: I'm not sure if this warrants inclusion, but I distinctly remembering reading one explanation about how Kent manages to be so distinguishable from Superman, based on the idea that Superman's facial structure (and perhaps his physique in general), was more defined and muscular compared to that of Kent's. I'm not sure if this is conveyed in any of the comics, or how exactly Superman would manage to pull it off, but that explanation is out there, and probably makes the most logical sense compared to the others, although that's obviously a matter of opinion. Km9000 (talk) 06:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's canon, so I would guess so: along with getting the "the talk" about how to use the nuclear force and what'll happen if you do, I guess the President gets Superman's secret identity. (Makes sense, because he might need to contact Kent in dire emergency.) AFAIK this has canonical fact has never been reversed or withdrawn. (An interesting question, though, is who tells the new President? Is the Secret Service or CIA or FBI officer who is also entrusted with the secret? Or does Superman himself visit and do it? Probably the latter I'd guess. Herostratus (talk) 21:53, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, the First Lady, the Vice President, the Secret Service, the Cabinet, etc. can't be in on this, so Superman must have spirited off the Chief Executive in secret to make this work. WHPratt (talk) 01:05, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: So, another question that would have come up more recently, would Donald Trump be entrusted with Superman's secret identity? If so, wouldn't there be a danger that he'd blackmail Superman, sell the info to Lex Luthor, or otherwise use it aggrandize himself or, even if not, blurt it out as a brag during a speech. Definitely the fact that he knows it, even if he didn't give away the actual identity. Or maybe give some hand-handed hint that can be easily figured out. But if Supes didn't entrust Trump, he's making judgements about the trustworthiness of different presidents, which kind of veers toward politics. And of course witholding from the United States info that could be important to it, i.e. how to contact him at once to stop a mistaken nuclear missile launch or alien attack or whatever. Herostratus (talk) 03:51, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Another identity theory

message: I see no reson to merge,I mean it talks alot about the Superman/Clark kent identity issue. So i hope nobody tries to merge it again.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.238.43 (talk) 13:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mergement

message: I wish I could have done all this in fewer intermediate edits, but it's done now.
In the previous version there was a section Debate over true identity with a subsection In other media. Much material in the separate Reeve movies section belonged in the Debate over true identity but wasn't situated in there, while material in the debate subsection In other media was not about the debate at all.
Therefore, I've made In other media a top-level section- no longer a subsection of the debate section- and put all the stuff about the films and Smallville into it. Material from those sections that belonged in the Debate over true identity section has been relocated there.
There was no discussion at all about George Reeve's very distinctive portrayal of Clark Kent in the 1950s, and I think Dean Cain could have gotten one or two more sentences than he did. Nor was there any discussion of contrast and comparison between different TV/film portrayals of Kent, which I've added to the up-promoted In other media section.
So I've reshuffled a lot of this, but hopefully in an orderly way. I couldn't figure out a good place for the Bill Cosby album stuff- it's currently not there at all. It certainly didn't belong in the Debate over true identity section, but I'm not sure where to put it.
Regards,
--WickerGuy (talk) 03:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Overall, not bad, but I see a pretty large problem which remains.  You use far too much original research to fill much of the section (such as referring to Superman as a Christ-like figure).  If it's not original (and I'm sure that many people have made this comparison before), then we'll be needing sources.  King Zeal (talk) 06:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I made a small correction in the In Other Media section. Previously, it stated that Lois in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman had married and divorced Lex Luthor, but she in fact refused him at the altar in the S1 episode, "House of Luthor." Does descriptive information from a primary source need to be cited?   Echo97 (talk) 05:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reshuffling of material 

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thread_title: C-Class rated for Comics Project

message: Could anyone help me understand why the phrase, "Some fans have noted that in order for the disguise to be credible, Clark has to be at least as skilled an actor as Christopher Reeve" catches my eye as inappropriate? I really can't place it, it seems both like fanboyism and a statement that requires a citation to clarify who these "Some fans" are.
Thanks in advance,
Soly (talk) 20:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there is a citation, this violates WP:Weasel for exactly the second reason you mentioned.--WickerGuy (talk) 00:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning "Secret identity security" 

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thread_title:  Non-free use of [[:File:Clarksupescompare.jpg]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I see that Clark Kent was merged into Superman. I still believe it is possible for there to be a standalone article based on the persona. Copying my comment from here:
*"Unmasking Clark Kent" in The superhero costume : identity and disguise in fact and fiction
*"The mild-mannered reporter: how Clark Kent surpassed Superman" in The contemporary comic book superhero
*"More human than (Super) human : Clark Kent's Smallville and Reagan's America" in The ages of Superman : essays on the Man of Steel in changing times
*"Mythicizing Clark Kent: Archetypes and Mythic Structures of Smallville" and "Finding Clark Kent: Sites of Nostalgia and Affect" in Mapping Smallville : critical essays on the series and its characters
*"Clark Kent is Superman! The ethics of secrecy" and "A world without a Clark Kent?" and "'It's a bird, it's a plane, it's ... Clark Kent?' : Superman and the problem of identity" in Superman and philosophy : what would the Man of Steel do?
*"The Modern Age: Fall and Rise of the Hero. Rethinking the American Man: Clark Kent, Superman, and Consumer Masculinity" in Ages of heroes, eras of men : superheroes and the American experience
Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 22:35, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for standalone article