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Template talk:Industrial Revolution

message: Sorry guys & gals. I seriously object to this box on the following grounds:
*Far too big
*Far too arbitrary and partial selection of content
*Many links are to articles which do not acknowledge the Industrial Revolution (e.g. most on the top line)
*Does nothing which a well designed categorisation system would not do just as well
I have no problem with it sitting at the foot of, say, *one* single article about the British Industrial Revolution. But I'll fight tooth & nail to prevent this being stamped on articles bearing on the Industrial Revolution. --Tagishsimon
:(Sorry I haven't replied to the note on my page yet, but it's probably best here anyway.)  In general, I have a lot of sympathy with this argument, which is why I didn't blast it all over the place as soon as I'd created it. (It is only used on Industrial Revolution itself, so far.)  I'll address the points one by one.
*Far too big
:I have played around with a number of configurations to reduce the footprint: there may be some way left to go.
*Far too arbitrary and partial selection of content
:This is my pet project, and I think it is going to take a long time.  Over time the coverage will grow, which will - of course - make the first problem worse.
*Many links are to articles which do not acknowledge the Industrial Revolution (e.g. most on the top line)
:Yes.  This is something that will be dealt with over time.  When I started doing research on the Industrial Revolution within Wikipedia, I found that there was sparse detail.  Rather than just create some monolithic central article,  I am gathering resources and slowly upgrading articles as I come across them.
*Does nothing which a well designed categorisation system would not do just as well
:Aye, there's the rub.  I hate seeing categories with only one or two entries, which is why I didn't embark on a category structure without amassing all the detail that might need to be illustrated.  That may come with time.  With this template, the majority of infomation is in a more structured and compact system than the category.
:In summary, I won't be putting this anywhere else yet, until its obvious shortcomings have been dealt with. Noisy | Talk 10:52, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Sternuous Objections to this box

message: User:Noisy can you please justify your revert to the original style? Templationist 17:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NavBox style 

message: This template has contained a red link to Dressing frame for over five years now. If the article is unlikely to be made, the link should be removed from the template. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:12, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very old red link to [[Dressing frame]]. 

message: The Industrial Revolution portal was recently deleted. I've removed the red link from the template. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 13:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to deleted portal removed
Talk:Socialist realism

message: Someone added this:
:It is also often overlooked that the GDR had its own movement of Socialist Realism, separate from that of the USSR. It was pivotal in the rise and fall of the GDR.
Without explanations it is meaningless and useless. Mikkalai 00:55, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: GDR 

message: A recent edit just added the line
:However The People's Republic of China still produce idealised poster propoganda, for example to promote their recent manned space launch successes.
which I like. Is there any chance we could get an illustration of one of these posters? I guess it could be included under 'fair-use'. -- Solipsist 14:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: People's Republic of China

message: Yes there was Tito-Stalin split but still there are quite of few monuments, etc in social realist style. Not an expert but pretty sure even after split they were still influenced by social realism.Sourcerery (talk) 13:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yugoslavia 

message: I propose adding a “Gender” section to the Socialist Realism page. It would both be feasible and significant; there is an abundance of literature and discussion on the topic, and the portrayal of women in Socialist Realism was relatively unique compared to other forms of art. Further, due to the overtly political nature of Socialist Realism, the way gender roles were depicted in government commissioned works during different time periods reflected the attitude Socialist countries as a whole had towards women’s role in society.
I mostly wrote about the depiction of women during the pre-stalin + stalin eras, but i'd really encourage people to add something about LGBT representation - i'm curious if there were any paintings that reflected the period of greater acceptance in the 1920s.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilyzorro (talk • contribs) 21:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender 

message: Hello Wikipedians. I see the Afrikaans version is held in good regard, and from a cursory glance, seems to be quite a bit meatier. I propose lightly lifting from it here and there through human checking of machine translation, although if there are any bilingual editors who could aide in this process, that would be preferable. I will allow for a weeklong period for other editors to offer their opinions before I begin, and I will keep updates here as it goes on. puggo (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taking cues from the Afrikaans page 
Talk:Republicrat

message: If "Republicrat" is putatively pejorative, then what is the neutral word?
Is it possible that the billions of $ of propaganda spent boosting the major
parties and avoiding the idea they are both corrupt and avoiding the word 
obscures the use of the word both by critics of the duopoly and neutral 
commentators? The parties could use the word, but the concept embarrasses 
them?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.88.54.198 (talk) 23:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pejorative ?

message: I'd like to know who first used this term. Was it Nader?
:I rather doubt Nader adopted it from Savage, and also doubt that Savage invented it.  It's a rather obvious portmanteau construction that could occur to anybody.  In fact see this net.politics.theory usenet post from 1985: Schizombie 15:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First Use

message: Amerocentric much? 75.118.170.35 (talk) 20:21, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: LibLabCon Redirect?
Category talk:English language

message: Okay, I've shifted all the articles I could into subcategories and subsubcategories and subsubsubcategories. And I'm taking off the "being reorganized" tag, though that should not be construed as meaning there's no more reorganization to be done. --Angr 15:32, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: There should be a new sub category, "English as an international language"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.160.106.161 (talk) 05:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New subcategory
Talk:Sandwich, Kent

message: Norse in my case is swedish. 
*Norse for sand = sand
*Norse for bay = vik
*Norse for grove = lund (sacret grove for offerings to the gods). Lunden = the (sacret) grove.
*Sandwich (Sandvik) = Sandy bay.
*Lundenwic (Lundenvik) = a bay by the Grove.
// Solkoll 11:22, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norse 

message: The article says: "In the year 1217 Hubert de Burgh King Henry III's justiciar compelled king Louis of France to agree to peace terms".  According to our List of French monarchs page, wasn't Philip II of France in power between 1180 to 1223?  Is there a date issue here, or is this referring to the king-to-be Louis VIII of France who came into power half a decade later?  Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the paragraph in question above, as it appears the original contributor has been inactive for close to two years now.   Please feel free to revert me if a source can be provided.  Can't sleep, clown will eat me 11:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How can this be?

message: The etymology is not correct, but speculative. The real orgin is of Old English, see etymonline. --Finn Bjørklid (talk) 00:14, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Maybe I missed this, but the port looks to be pretty far from the water, can that be explained? --AW (talk) 04:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Siltation and the tidal movement of sand over several centuries. --Greenmaven (talk) 13:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's inland? 

message: The webshots link for the 'Ham Sandwich' sign is dead, so I'm going to remove it. In any case the photo already appears on the page for Ham. does anyone know of a source for the claim that it's been taken down? I can't find anything by googling...
--Slimeypete (talk) 15:44, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sign 
Talk:Athletics at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's 1500 metres

message: u stopid thing i want to know when the 1500ms became an olympic race and what it was like then?
: Hey, instead of slagging off these little problems how about fixing them?  It's pretty easy to do... -- Zaphod Beeblebrox 08:01, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Dion Boucicault

message: I have made a small change which can be constued as contradictory to the previous version. My source for claiming that Dion Boucicault was educated at University College School is The Templeman Library. Thanks Ramw2 16:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Small Change

message: I'd like to suggest an external link to http://library.kent.ac.uk/library/special/html/specoll/boucal.htm .
This is the frontpage of the Dion Boucicault Collections pages of the University of Kent Special Collections. The pages mostly describe documents held by Special Collections, but also include a list of Boucicault's plays, a brief biography, and family tree. There is also  a good deal of image material on these pages.
*Done - House of Scandal (talk) 02:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: University of Kent

message: The article doesn't say where he got this surname, as it seems it wasn't from his father. Does anybody know? 79.97.154.238 (talk) 01:26, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Boursiquot/Boucicault surname

message: Are there any details on his play Flying Scud, which contains the earliest attestation of the English slang phase "to see a man about a dog"? — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 16:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Flying Scud'' 

message: Hi, according to this biography, Boucicault began his career as an actor under the name Lee Moreton in Cheltenham. Someone might be willing to correct the spelling and even replace the reference. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 11:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dion Boucicault#Work as actor and playwright|...adopting the stage name of Lee Morton]]
Talk:SBB RABDe 500

message: "It was one of the first trains to feature passageways between the different compartments without any kind of door between the carriages." I believe the EW III carriages which already existed since about 1970 would take this honour, so I have removed this statement. 77.57.186.202 (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No doors?
Talk:Women's Institute

message: Should this article be moved to National Federation of Women's Institutes? Or even just Women's Institute? Tom- 13:10, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes! Working on it. PamD 11:43, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: 2004 comment 

message: From the History section:
:In the circumstances of the First World War the Government of the United Kingdom's Board of Agriculture, with the belief that the WI could play an important role in the countryside, particularly in domestic science and the production and preserving of food. 
There's a subject, a long secondary clause, then another, and then a full stop. I assume the missing predicate says something about the Board sponsoring the WI--but then the next paragraph has the Board of Trade (rather than Agriculture) withdrawing sponsorship, so maybe not.
Actually, I found most of this section (which makes up the bulk of the article) rather confusing. For example, after reading the extreme runon sentence at the end of the second paragraph a few times, I still have no clue what "their misleading stereotype" refers to. Then, after discussing the period from WWI to WWII, suddenly we jump back to 1919 to talk about WI Markets
The whole thing probably needs to be rewritten. However, I can't help much, as I can't make enough sense of the article to put something together, and about all I know about the WI beyond Mrs Alfred Watt is that all the stock footage of applauding women from Monty Python were them. --75.36.135.216 10:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing part of a sentence, and much of sense 

message: I've done a bit of work to update this article, but I think we need to have an article about the WI in the UK, rather than this one where the lead gives the impression that it's mainly in Canada. Not sure how to go about this, needs some more thought. Any thoughts, anyone? PamD 11:41, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs to be restructured
Talk:Borough (New Jersey)

message: To answer your question, someone created a template that helps answer your question.  I added it to this page.
Roodog2k 13:53, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Added Template

message: I dont have any understanding really of what a boro is now and how it compares to the alleged other municipal systems. the category or whatever for municipalities should definitely be streamlined  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.188.155 (talk) 21:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History without current info
Talk:Lennox Robinson

message: *This article is part of WikiProject Irish literature. See that page for further information.
Does anyone know where in County Cork Lennox Robinson was born?  I have heard several differnt stories re his birthplace.  One was that he was born in Douglas on the outside of Cork City, the other that he was born in Bandon.  Many years ago I was told by a local person that he was born at Rock House, Sandycove, near Kinsale but I'm not sure if this is correct. Coolavokig 10:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:AD 999

message: 1. Orsay couldn't have been a commune at that time, but a village.
2. Should this world history notice the first mention of every european village (even if Orsay is now populated because it's a suburb of Paris)?
--Rémi Castérès (talk) 21:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Orsay

message: The term AD, anno domine or the year of our lord is a Christian one and is no longer appropriate in scholarly context. The preferred nomenclature is the term CE or, Common Era. OR BCE in place of BC for before common era.
Even the very first line of the lead refers to it as being part of the common era.
I'm sure this is a convention that all or most pages for specific years use. So, I definitely understand that to really address this proper would be a monumental task more than simply changing the title, and replacing all instances of AD or BC with the appropriate term. I don't know how many pages there are for years, but I imagine there is at least one for each of the 12,025 years since the holocene began.
Unless Wikipedia has some secret GREP type function for mass editing reserved for staff.
I realize that most people use the terms AD and BC and are unfamiliar with the terms CE and BCE. But, a redirect can remedy that. But again, that's a LOT of pages to do that for. VoidHalo (talk) 17:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Christian term AD (Anno Domine or year of the lord) changed to secular C.E. (Common Era)
Category talk:Pharaohs

message: About :Category:Egyptian heads of state: I suppose I don't understand. It seems to me that the Pharoah was clearly Egyptian, and clearly a head of state. Why do you think it doesn't belong in this category? Quadell (talk) 15:08, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
The question is to decide how far backwards in time you could go and find some state of which contemporary Egypt can be reasonably considered a successor.
Due to the complete political reorganization of the area during Greek, Roman, Arab, Ottoman periods, I think it is not reasonable to link Pharoahs to contemporary Egypt (in :Category:Heads of state by country "countries" are reasonably modern countries). For the same reason while browsing through the various subcategories to clean up these categories, I did not even think to subcategorize "Roman emperors" in Italy or "Byzantine emperors" in Turkey, or "kings of ancient Israel" in Israel ; I met some cases which were not so obvious (for instance, I would not subcategorize "Emperors of Austria" to Austria, but I admit both ways to do are reasonable).
Indeed a good criterion would be to include some ruler in the subcategory "Heads of state of SuchCountry" if it ruled SuchCountry after the "date of nationhood" purported by List of countries by date of nationhood. (this would mean that indeed, emperors of Austria have their place among "Austrian heads of state" OK, and a bit off topic here :-)).
That's it, I hope it makes my motivations clearer. --French Tourist 16:07, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Knights of St. George

message: Knights of St Michael and St George: England or United Kingdom?
Pedro II - which of the two on the disambiguation page?
Jackiespeel 15:12, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Talk:Carlos María de Alvear

message: One of my sources for this article was  (free use with attribution; see , but my translation is so rough that it amounts to a rewrite anyway). However, I'm unsure about the "minister to the United States" part: other sources also have this phrase, and the Spanish site calls it a "ministro Plenipotenciario". What is this? Would "ambassador" be an adequate designation? He seems to have lived in New York since he occupied that post... Lupo 15:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, got it. According to MW Online, a "minister plenipotentiary" is "diplomatic agent ranking below an ambassador but possessing full power and authority". Lupo 08:28, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The typical title given to an Argentine diplomat with the rank of Ambassador who is detailed abroad is embajador extraordinario y plenipotenciario. Alvear was Argentina's ambassador to the USA from 1838 to his death in 1852.
Tantris 14:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A Diplomatic Title
Talk:New religious movement

message: was founded close to a millennium and a half ago, so how are Krishnaites a NEW religion? 82.36.70.45 (talk) 12:00, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guadisha Vaishnavism 

message: Given that the New Religous and New Age Movements have certain issues in common, might not more be made about of crossover of ideas?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.103.48 (talk) 21:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  If and where there are crossover ideas, it is more likely random and coincidence. Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 16:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  See New Age Movements
Talk:Mithridatic Wars

message: User:Johnbod thinks etymologies don't occur in phrases but phrases are composed of words.  The heading is correct at "Etymology". Catchpoke (talk) 15:14, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No, sorry dude, it isn't. "War" has an etymology, and the name "Mithridates" no doubt does, but the phrase doesn't, and the origin of the phrase combing these standard terms does not.  Nor does the section cover either of the actual etymologies of the words.  No more edit-warring over this please! Johnbod (talk) 15:15, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "Mithridatic Wars" is a Compound (linguistics).  Maybe go to the linguistics wikiproject and ask some people there and see how "etymology" is defined. Catchpoke (talk) 15:24, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No it isn't!  Those are single words or hyphenated. I know "how "etymology" is defined, thank you, I have a degree in this. Please just stop. Oh, and by the way - check up on what hypocrite means - I'm not one of those; I mean what I say. Johnbod (talk) 15:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you are!  And the words are lexemes!  It doesn't matter if you have a degree.  Use some WP:COMMONSENSE. Catchpoke (talk) 15:48, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

text: A two-word term can have an etymology the same way a one-word term can, and it's clearly the more concise header, so I re-reverted accordingly. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Etymology]] 

message: — Assignment last updated by Johnstoncl (talk) 23:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: History of Ancient Greece
Category talk:Heads of state

message: There's been some discussion at Category talk:Pharaohs as to whether or not the category belongs under :Category:Egyptian heads of state or not. French Tourist said it didn't belong, explaining:
:Due to the complete political reorganization of the area during Greek, Roman, Arab, Ottoman periods, I think it is not reasonable to link Pharoahs to contemporary Egypt (in :Category:Heads of state by country "countries" are reasonably modern countries). For the same reason while browsing through the various subcategories to clean up these categories, I did not even think to subcategorize "Roman emperors" in Italy or "Byzantine emperors" in Turkey, or "kings of ancient Israel" in Israel
This is a good point, but I think it would confuse people not to have them linked. I therefore offer the following proposal.
Under :Category:Heads of state, there could be subcategories including :Category:Heads of state of modern countries and :Category:Heads of state of ancient regions, as well as :Category:Heads of state by country. Under :Category:Heads of state by country would be :Category:Egyptian heads of state (although :Category:Heads of state of Egypt would be better, specifying that an Egyptian ruler of non-Egyptian origin counts, but an Egyptian man who happens to be the Syrian head of state does not.) Then, under :Category:Egyptian heads of state would be :Category:Ancient Egyptian heads of state (which is also under :Category:Heads of state of ancient regions) and :Category:Modern Egyptian heads of state (which is also under :Category:Heads of state of modern countries). Now there are minor problems with this technique, and some would say it goes too far, but I think it would be a good way to handle it. 
What do you think? Quadell (talk) 17:20, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
I really think it would be easier to keep the category "heads of state" with the meaning I gave to it, and to create a category "ancient heads of state" for pharoas, roman emperors and so on...
It would be nice to easily rename categories. Categories by countries have been quite randomly named using adjectives or names, and for something like heads of state, country names would be clearly better... "Heads of state of Egypt" rather than "Egyptian heads of state". As you shall see, nouns have been used in category "presidents" and adjectives in category "monarchs", and you can look around :Category:Categories by country to discover both ways to do have been chosen.
Anyway I have not a very strong interest in the question, I write here my final remarks about this question and leave the problem for the next person stumbling over the dikfficulties of  classifying effectively "by country". --French Tourist 18:24, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  2004