Talk:Agathonisi

message: What is going on here!? What is the full story with this category? Why shouldn't it be on this page? - Erebus555 18:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsourced and questionable---the Turkish government has spoken nebulously of "gray zones", but hasn't provided a list.  There has been speculation in the Turkish media that has included Agathonisi, but we shouldn't make up categories of rumor and speculation. --Delirium 22:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

text: (Reply) During Kardak crisis in 1996, a copter of Greek Army downed! (some deathly casualties)! Turkish sent its special forces over the Kardak island in Gray Region and downed Greek flag and landed Turkish flag. Delirium, are these rumor and speculation. Try to land in Kardak see what happens to you Hector 09:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: The article text currently says that the settlements Mikro Chorio and Megalo Chorio are "both inland", and that "[t]he island's only port is the settlement of Agios Georgios (Saint George), which consists of a few hotels and restaurants". However, the image shows the "main harbor" and calls it "Megalo Chorio". How is this to be resolved? Is the area around the harbor considered to be part of "Megalo Chorio"? Google Earth  seems to suggest that the main part of the village is indeed a bit further up, behind the hill on the right. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:25, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Fut.Perf., the image only shows the Saint George port, which is not part of the Big Village. The caption, therefore, needs to be corrected. I am not surprised if people confuse/merge together the Big Village, the Small Village and the Saint George Port, due to their close proximity to each each other; the three settlements are only a short distance from each other, and it does take no more than 5-10 minutes to get from the one to the other on foot. --SilentResident (talk) 13:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic inconsistency 

message: Turkish claims have no place on the Greek island articles and Turkish politics should be kept out of these articles. The Turkish claims on the Aegean sea have already been tackled here, on the Aegean dispute article, which is about them. To duplicate these claims on every one of the 200 Greek island articles (or 6, or 18 or 120, depending which Turkish official you are quoting) on top of that is way too much. If there is anything to be added about the Turkish claims on Aegean islands, it should be done on the article dedicated to that dispute. Nothing more, nothing less. Any further POV-pushing attempts to include the Turkish claims outside the article dedicated to them, will be reverted without any further warnings. Have a good day. --SILENTRESIDENT 17:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I shall bring to everyone's attention that even in the case the Turkish Minister's alleged claims against the Greek sovereignty on Agathonisi are quoted in the Aegean dispute article, it is important to take in account the more recent Turkish President's statements too (the President is the leader of the Turkish state and needless to say, he carries more weight than a Minister does) where he, just less than a month ago from today, pledged for the opposite. (see here: link, link). Unfortunately, the Turkish government not only is showing many contradicting positions, not only about the actual number of islands they do dispute, but also about whether they actually dispute the border treaty itself or not (on the action level, they do, but on a verbal level they appear to be contradicting themselves - or at least hold a different perception of the treaty's revisions). None can be certain for sure, but if anyone here really wants to carry this hot potato, I suggest caution as it can burn. --SILENTRESIDENT 17:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

text: Your comment confirms what I was saying - be the claims falling under WP:NOTNEWS or not, they are no more than just part of Turkey's internal politics. What is said or claimed inside Turkey, has no place here. My position remains unchanged on this and I will oppose the inclusion of such information on any related articles unless they relate to the Aegean dispute and meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion into that article. My position also remains same regardless of country politics so please do not see this stance as being a pro-Greek POV or anti-Turkish POV: be it the Patriarch of the Macedonian Orthodox Church claiming the Greek city of Thessalonica, be it the leader of the Neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party claiming the Turkish city of Istanbul, or the leader of CHP and the Minister of European Affairs claiming Agathonisi, or even President Erdogan claiming the Iraqi city of Mosul. Such information simply has no place in Wikipedia. Do not ever expect such claims to show up on this article, or this article either. The region of Southeastern Europe is notorious for its immature politics and revisionist policies. Wikipedia shouldn't give them more light outside of the context (i.e. nationalism and Great Ideas). To include such claims on every city or island article in Wikipedia, just because it happened that they were made by public figures in other countries, is to go against Wikipedia's rules. --SILENTRESIDENT 21:42, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkish claim on the island 2 

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message: Agathonisi is one of those islands quite near Turkey mainland.  
Does someone have numers / statistics  how many migrants came ? 
Is there a camp or sth similar @ Agathonisi ? 
Are they brought to another island ?  his article is the starting of my question
--Neun-x (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  migrants coming from Turkey