Talk:Robert Southey

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Well, he may be read by school children in GB, but I seriously doubt that he is in the US.  I think the text should be modified to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdammers (talk • contribs) 07:31, 13 June 2005
: MMMM, how do you think this would be best expressed? Jezhotwells (talk) 00:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: "Southey's verse enjoys enduring popularity"? Hardly. He has long since been relegated to the 
company of the "of historical interest only".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.20 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 1 May 2008 
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It might be a good idea for the article to say something about Southey's narrative poems, The Curse of Kehama, Thalaba the Destroyer, and Madoc. These may not be top of the pops today, but, Southey thought of them as his major accomplishments as a poet, and they are said to have had some influence on Shelley. Perhaps it is a correct assessment, perhaps not, but, the article gives the impression that Southey was a prose writer who also produced some ballads. Granted that his poetry is of historical interest only, I think the history should be recounted, so to speak.
:I think that's a very sound idea, but I don't really have the specialist knowledge to do it myself. Bmcln1 (talk) 09:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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message: I'm sorry, for now I'm not sure what the J.L. stands for, but will likely come across it in one of varous sources I regularly go over to do with the history of British Columbia.  J.L. Southey was the secretary to Robert Lambert Baynes then a rear-admiral and commander-in-chief of the Pacific Station of the Royal Navy at Esquimalt; a few places in BC are named for him directly or indirectly.  I'm wondering if he might be Robert Southey's offspring or some other relation; there are no other articles on anyoen named Southey in Wikipedia, so it seems a rare name.  Anyone here recogznie the initials?Skookum1 (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[J.L. Southey]]

message: I own a copy of Nelson's biography of Southey published in 1900, despite the fact that the article claims it went out of publication in 1813. Don't have a source other than the book I own though, so I'll be lazy and let someone who cares enough to investigate it. 76.125.75.29 (talk) 02:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article actually says: The latter has rarely been out of print since its publication in 1813?? So please don't interupt your laziness.Jezhotwells (talk) 10:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Publication of Nelson's Biography

message: Is the pronunciation not /ˈsaʊθi/ to rhyme with /ˈmaʊθi/ ?  217.17.56.174 (talk) 07:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The article currently describes Southey's Three Bears as "the original Goldilocks story." I believe that's incorrectly phrased, for two reasons: (1) Southey never claimed to have originated the story. According to its Wikipedia page, "Southey most likely learned the tale as a child from his uncle William Tyler…. Ultimately, it is uncertain where Southey or his uncle learned the tale." (2) Southey's story can't accurately be called a "Goldilocks story" at all, for the simple reason that it has no Goldilocks. (And Goldilocks is generally identified as the central character of this story: Google today finds 10,700,000 hits for "Goldilocks" as against only 415,000 hits for the phrase "three bears.") I suggest changing "the original Goldilocks story" to "an antecedent of the Goldilocks story."Pelamis (talk) 19:55, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three Bears 

message: Two problems here: (1) No edition supervised by Southey or his heirs was ever titled simply "The Doctor." Every edition was titled The Doctor, etc. This isn't mere pedantry. The work has a much greater proportion of "etc." than of "The Doctor." Who would shorten Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra to simply "Antony"? (Note that the same hypertruncation is made even in this article's formal works list.) (2) "Collection" isn't a good description. Southey's book is an imitation of Tristram Shandy, i.e., it has a very slim strand of narrative embellished with enormous digressions. Would anyone call Tristram Shandy a "collection"? Pelamis (talk) 20:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Southey's prose collection The Doctor" 

message: Objections: (1) This statement reveals an offensive Anglocentric parochialism sadly too common in Wikipedia. The Sumerian Lamentation over the Destruction of Ur and Archilochos's little piece about dropping his shield and running--both of which are thousands of years older than Southey--have both been described as possibly anti-war poems. Definite anti-war poetry goes back at least as far as Euripides and the Greek Anthology. (2) In any case, Southey was never anti-war at any stage of his career, and certainly not when he wrote this ballad, as his copious letters on the subject reveal. It isn't modern pacifism to claim that Blenheim was fought for no good reason and had no good consequence except the aggrandizement of the victorious general. Rightly or wrongly, that has always been the majority view of Blenheim in English literature ever since the days of Queen Anne. Pelamis (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "After Blenheim (possibly one of the earliest anti-war poems)" 

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message: Personal Appearance and Habits of Robert Southey The Harpers Monthly, January 1851, pp. 145-152
;https://www.unz.com/print/Harpers-1851jan-00145/
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thread_title:  The Harpers Monthly, January 1851, pp. 145-152  

message: "The English word 'zombie', from the Haitian French 'zombi', is purported to have first been recorded by Southey in his 1819 essay History of Brazil."
I find this a bizarre assertion. Anyone familiar with Brazilian culture should recognize the name Zumbí dos Palmares (1655-1695), the leader of a colony of escaped slaves (quilombo). Surely a scholar like Southey should not be burdened by such an obtuse etymology.
The OED cites this excerpt from Southey : "Zombi, the title whereby he [chief of Brazilian natives] was called, is the name for the Deity, in the Angolan tongue." Any inferential connection to Haiti and the English word zombie is just not warranted in this skeptic's opinion. The Wikipedia page on zombie is apparently the source of this mistake; it too needs to be corrected for the same reason.
It is also downright vulgar to interpret Southey's "Angolan tongue" as "Haitian French". "Is purported" is no excuse for such cultural misappropriation.
Tofindya (talk) 15:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zombie or Zumbí - Cultural Misappropriation? 

message: Southey compared New Lanark to a slave plantation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.145.174 (talk) 04:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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