Talk:International Brotherhood of Teamsters

message: In Early History: "The Teamsters were, as an example, at the center of the City Front Federation strike of 1901, in which San Francisco unions engaged in something like a general strike."
Other sections say teamsters were founded in 1903, two years later...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.213.165 (talk) 06:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, this page says "founded 1903"; this page, 1899. They can't both be right....  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  10:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

text: *There were several national "teamsters" unions prior to 1903. The American Federation of Labor organized the Team Drivers' International Union in 1898, which is when some people date the union's founding to.  In 1901, a group of unionized teamsters in Chicago broke away and formed the Teamsters National Union. Since the AFL group allowed employers to join the union (!) and the Chicago group did not, some people date the founding of the union to 1901. In 1903, the AFL asked the two unions to merge with an emerging third teamster union. They did so, and some date the founding of the union to this event.  Further creating confusion is the fact that hundreds of local teamster unions existed as far back as the early 1870s (which is why they could participate in the 1901 San Francisco strike).  Sometimes these local unions belonged to one of the national ones, and sometimes they did not.  I would suggest that the problems you are encountering are less a matter of error than clarity; I haven't read the Hoffa article (which is in extremely poor shape, IMHO) lately, but I suspect that the reference to 1899 is to the local union rather than the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (for example). - Tim1965 (talk) 14:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ♠Either way, it's clearer now than it was. ;D Thanx.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  20:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Time inconsistency

message: This is the overhaul I promised (threatened?). Here's some information that is probably correct, but which I deleted all the same:
Departments 
* Communications Department
* Office of Corporate Affairs
* Education Department
* Government Affairs Department
* Human Rights Commission
** Disaster Relief Fund
** The James R. Hoffa Memorial Scholarship Fund
* Legal Department
* Organizing Department
* Research Department
* Department for Retiree Affairs
* Safety and Health Department
* Office of Strategic Initiatives
Departments 
* Accounting and Budget Department
* Affiliates Records Department
* Information Systems Department
* International Auditors
I don't think that this really adds all that much. --24.126.41.116 08:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Done

message: I did some fact checking and found that the Frontier Hotel strike lasting from 1991 to 1998 was part of Local 226 of Culinary Workers Union (UNITE HERE) not Teamsters. --Ben 18:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frontier Hotel and Casino Strike 

message: I think I can guess from the context, but it would be nice if this article explained how the union is organized with respect to what "locals" are and how they relate to each other and the rest of the union. ---B- 07:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikilinked it to the relevant article (:local union). The internal structuring of different internationals, frankly, would be a topic for a doctoral thesis, not a Wiki article. --Orange Mike 13:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What's a "Local"

message: I cut the lead way down in order to present the bare information as an intro, and the rest I either worked back into the chronology of the article or cut out, as it was already there. MSJapan 20:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructured a little.... 

message: This Organization preserved the historic spelling of its official name when it became a Division of the Teamsters Union.  Please refrain from trying to "correct" the spelling.
Justus R (talk) 19:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes

message: This article has been edited anonymously by Berman and Company, who are lobbyists for amongst others the American Beverage Institute, the Center for Consumer Freedom, the Center for Union Facts and the Employment Policies Institute.
IP address of 66.208.14.242 traces to Berman and Company, see the Whois report. I Spy With My Big Eye (talk) 10:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning: Lobbyists [[Berman and Company]] at work  

message: He is not a candidate for the presidential election at this point.  He is a candidate for the democratic nomination versus Hillary Clinton.  In the event Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, the Teamsters would likely endorse one of the two presidential candidates for the election.  When a nominee is selected, this will have to be updated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.11.251.92 (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction to the Teamsters endorsement of Barack Obama 

message: Woah... I just read this and got chills. This article reads like "The Lore of the Teamsters" or something similar. I'd go so far as to say it's POV-slanted, but as my knowledge of the teamsters is somewhat limited, I don't consider myself qualified to make that determination. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 17:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When reading about a union in an article that does not have the anti-union animus that is taught in schools of economics and journalism, it may take some time to become accustomed to an article written with NPOV.  Enjoy! Justus R (talk) 02:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, so I'll concede that it may not be POV-slanted. I still feel the tone in which many of the paragraphs are written do not convey an appropriate encyclopedic tone, and read more like, as implied before, a storybook. An excerpt:Beck used different tactics, on the other hand, to organize the independent owner-operators who hauled much of the agricultural produce from California farms; the union simply pulled the drivers out of their cabs and signed them up.The phrase, "the union simply pulled the drivers out of their cabs and signed them up" strikes me as doublespeak- were these drivers willingly asked to sign up, or were they compelled to join? This isn't clear, and leaves it up to the reader's preconceptions of the Teamsters. Another excerpt:In many cases organized crime played an even more direct role. Hoffa depended on the support of a number of "paper locals" from New York established by Johnny Dioguardi, an associate of the Lucchese crime family, in running for the presidency of the Teamsters in 1957.The definition of a "paper local" is not established anywhere else in the article. My best guess is that it refers to a "local" that is "on paper only", thus it is not a "local" at all. But this sort of jargon should be explained. I hope this helps. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 05:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: some background information on why they are called teamsters, what a teamster is, would be useful 84.9.125.170 (talk) 00:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The wikilink to :teamster (lowercase) the profession is in the first sentence of the "History" section. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 03:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning / origin of the word "teamster" 

message: There's a lot of refs to Teamsters Locals as if the reader knows what & where they are. I suggest 1) more detail explaining it & (if possible) 2) a comprehensive list of Locals with their locations.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  11:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *I respectfully disagree.  This article is already getting too long.  Little is being done to really improve this article right now, but I suggest that if more detail is added then it'd be time to break the Teamster history section off on its own.  I think a list of locals would be great. There are problems, though...there are more than 500 such local unions!  Lists, like articles, need inline citations, and at least 1,500 characters of accompanying text.  The problems are not insurmountable, though, and I look forward to the list you or anyone else generates! - Tim1965 (talk) 14:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: ♥No argument on splitting the history off. And I know so little about this, I wouldn't even know where to look for sources to begin a list (one reason I suggested it ;p).  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  20:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Local color

message: WWII ended in 1945 so a 1997 strike doesn't belong in this list:
:In the two years following the cessation of hostilities, the Teamsters struck only three times: 10,000 truckers in New Jersey struck for two weeks; workers at UPS struck nationwide for three weeks during the United Parcel Service strike of 1997;
Can somebody who knows the subject fix this up?  Thanks!
Atomota (talk) 01:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  UPS 1997 strike in the list of strikes within two years of WWII? 

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message: Nothing in here (of any note) about Teamsters Local 399 (for example) and their battles with (management) the Hollywood studios, where the (Employers) studios want to rid themselves of restrictive practises by the Union. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 18:55, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Battles of the Teamsters