Talk:Neon lamp

message: What this page needs desperately is to tell the history of neon light signs (foremostly in America, secondly in Europe, and then in the rest of the world).
The point being, the astute viewer sees a movie, and he wants to know what time the movie depicts. 
The page for neon says neon wasn't discovered until 1898, but this page says neon lamps were on display at the 1893 world fair.  WTF?
:I think you have a point, WTF. Tesla's lamp must have been some other kind. Other sources say a carbon button low-pressure discharge lamp. --Heron 21:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  history 

message: Oppose - Someone has nominated a merger with neon sign - I don't think that's appropriate, there's plenty to be written about both topics and though there's obvious commonalities (along with fluorescent lamp in the history, each can be a stand-alone article. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion

message: I suggest something like the following be added to the article, after mention of the NE-77 as a circuit component:
"Also, three-element neon bulbs are sometimes used to indicate that either of two sub-circuits are on.  For example, toasting or baking in a toaster oven; or, either side of a dual-control electric blanket.  Here, the bulb acts as a compact alternative to two separate bulbs."
Reason:  Several places on the internet mention the NE-77 as a circuit component, but I'm unaware of any mention of this dual-indicator use.  Source 2 shows at least some interest and confusion about these devices.
Source 1:  The Black & Decker toaster oven model TRO 355-TY5 uses this design.  (I found upon reverse engineering.)
The middle electrode is common; the electrode on one side is powered by the toast circuit; the other electrode by the bake circuit.
Source 2:  Someone said they dissected a dead electric blanket and found a 3-element bulb "inside the power connector box at the foot of the blanket", and asked what it is for, 4 years ago, at this URL:
sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.electronics.basics/2005-04/msg00086.html
(title: three element "neon bulb" in Electric Blanket...what's it do?)
19VABP22 (talk) 16:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three-element neon bulb as dual indicator 

message: Theres photos of Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) and also his freind Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) the author taken by the light of wirelessly lit (From energy from a Tesla coil) Tesla should be given more some credit min article for his Gas Lamps! Thanks!IMPVictorianus (talk) 20:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theres photos of Tesla/Mark Twain and Gas lamps 

message: There are several sentences in the article that deal with neon tube lighting such as used in large signs. I think this article is about miniature neon lamps, which are a distinct technology. I've revised the history section to try to clarify this. I'm inclined to revise the article to remove some of the tube lighting discussion, including the nice photo of a neon sign. Leave a comment here if you have a different view. Easchiff (talk) 05:42, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neon lamps and neon lighting 

message: Neon efficacies
Tabby (talk) 21:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The efficacy for "white" "neon" looks doubtful to me; is there a non-sales-site that replicates these values? --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:49, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Further, I think the link for this is now dead: Testem (talk) 14:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Efficacies 

message: My little pocket camera has a "high speed" video mode that shoots 240 frames/second instead of the usual 30. At this speed it's quite easy to see the electrodes alternating on AC operation (even at 60 Hz).  How do I change a .MOV video to something that Wikipedia can accept? --Wtshymanski (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice idea. Glrx (talk) 01:09, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Convert it to the .GIF format. Some websites are able to do the conversion online. Make sure the frame delay setting is at least 0.06 ms because that is the minimum for some browsers (IE). Ceinturion (talk) 08:09, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Animated .gif seems like the way to go to me also, and I think it's a great idea. Here's a link to one that was made from video: :File:MaryPoppinsChimneyDance.gif. If possible, I'd suggest that you include something in your images to indicate the size of the little lamp, such as part of a ruler or scale, or perhaps a sheet of graph paper as the background. Easchiff (talk) 11:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: AC operation alternating glow

message: I agree with the "dubious" tag that the graph of the IV characteristic in the Description section, Doutnavka.svg, is inadequate.  Maybe a better graph could be found? --ChetvornoTALK 23:54, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inadequate graph 

message: Neon lamps possess very rich dynamical properties"Dance JN, Cold Cathode Tubes, Iliffe, London, UK, 1968", in particular, because, as the applied voltage changes, the transition between the "on" and "off" phases is at the same time significantly hysteretic and stochastic. Owing to these properties, they have been used as the sole non-linear element in electronic models, or analogues, of neural dynamics, initially by Balthasar van der Pol. In 2016, an elementary network consisting of a two-dimensional lattice of neon lamps, each one biased to a common DC voltage and capacitively-coupled to its neighbors, was investigated. Varying the applied voltage, it was possible to elicit the emergence of ordered, high-rate and disordered, low-rate phases, with a first-order transition between them and critical avalanching, bearing a very close similarity to neural observations of criticality and thus illustrating the generative potential of this simple device, often nowadays relegated to the role of line voltage indicator.   ( Lminati (talk) 15:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed addition: "Non-linear circuit element in models of neural-like activity" 

message: I've listed the two redirects Neon tube and Neon tubes (note that the second is a plural), as "redirects for discussion" here: Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_November_3#Neon_tubes. This is because they redirect to different things - respectively neon sign and neon lamp. I feel this should be made consistent. Please add your thoughts on the discussion page. Wittylama 22:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect for discussion 

message: the "RGBA pixel" mentioned (apparently off topic) in the section about alphanumeric displays seems odd... how exactly does one use an electric glow discharge (light) to turn a physical object (the tube) invisible ("A")?
the citation is a contextless scan of what looks like a super-condensed datasheet in russian. a quick translation using an OCR tool does not mention anything about an alpha channel, instead seems to specify "YGRB" (according to the list of "color channel brightnesses" and "the letters denote ..." note right below the drawing on page 2). the only vaguely "alpha" or "a" looking/sounding thing involved seems to be pin labelling for counting purposes or the actual anode (not 110% sure which one is which). either way this should probably be corrected by someone who actually understands russian, but i'm extremely certain "RGBA" is not a term we should use when talking about very much opaque light emitters :P 92.76.149.69 (talk) 05:43, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "RGBA pixel" seems far fetched (because physically impossible)