Talk:Universities in the United Kingdom

message: Scottish universities should have their own article. I already see that the ancient universities do, but this still does not really reflect the different educational tradition in this country MacRusgail 22:58, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish Universities 

message: I was under the impression that overseas people from europe can get state help (at least if they are from the EU).  Is this correct? John 15:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: EU citizens must be treated the same as British citizens. They pay the same tuition fees (if applicable) and they are eligible for the same social welfare benefits as British citizens. I don't think they can take out student loans however. But then the student loans company is a for-profit company and not part of the government. - FrancisTyers 15:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only exception being that (I think) EU students are not eligible for maintenance (as opposed to fees) remittance when awarded a research council sponsored postgraduate studentship. Badgerpatrol 02:21, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think this is the case. But thats research council, not state. I think thats where the difference lies... - FrancisTyers 11:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Overseas fees

message: 1)What is the ethnic composition of students and staff within UK Higher Education institutions?
2)Is there a difference between the ethnic composition of different universities (for example, the Russell Groups universities)?  
3)Are students from one ethnic group more likely to apply for courses of a particular type in preference to students of a different ethnic groups?  
4)Are students from one ethnic group more likely to attend different universities than are students from other ethnic groups?
5) What is the representation of different ethnic groups at different levels of student representation? (for example, within the Student Unions body, for example?)
I think that, in the interests of *truth*fulness, it is best to include information concerning the racial and ethnic composition of various universities.  Patterns may emerge concerning differences in intake, differences in those students who are affected by Tuition fees, etc... And, also, differences in course uptake.  For example, I imagine that Russell Groups Universities have a separate student intake composition when compared to other UK/British Universities.  
MrASingh 21:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Multi-Ethnic Composition of Student and Staff

message: Hi, the comment about the UK being unusual in that most students go to uni far from home. Fair enough - but is there any reason for this that we can write about? --Timmywimmy 12:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd presume the tradition grew, or was cemented by the fact that until the early 1990s, students got grants which more than covered their rent, plus in the case of Scottish students in England, they also got travel allowance. So why not go and have fun out of sight of the parents? I went from a Scottish city to an English University and had a great time. ;) – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 11:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I think it has more to do with the original comment being a load of cobblers. It's not my perception that British students are any more prone to studying far from home than students in other countries, but if supportive stats can be shown then fair enough. Badgerpatrol 22:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  peculiarities 

message: there is not enough info. hereon king's college london. it is oneofvery few british unis to have a world-renowned reputation and is also the fourth oldest institution to have been awarded its charter. it has numerous faous alumni and is generally a very prestigious uni, please see the KCL page and alter this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.100.170 (talk) 
:This is an overview of the UK system. No one university is disproportionately mentioned and nor should they be. Badgerpatrol 12:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  king's college london 

message: In the United Kingdom the vast majority of university students attend universities situated a long distance from their family homes
This really needs to be sourced. My hunch is that this is not (or at least no longer) the case, but experiences can differ wildly. (For the record I'm currently based at Queen Mary, University of London, which has a majority of local students.) The problem is that the "traditional student" - the stereotype is a middle class aged 18-21 undergraduate studying full time - is actually a minority. These stats from HESA show that only 61% of higher education students are full-time. Generally part-time students do not "go away" to university.
"Family home" is not a terribly useful term given the number of mature students - I've often heard "over 50%" cited (but can't immediately think of a source) - where is their family home? For that matter many postgraduates are equally heavily detached from the parental home, often considering their current dwelling to be their "permanent" home. Often those applying to continue straight after undergraduate study use their university address for applying (making a lot of statistics about PG applications distorted).
And with the introduction of tuition fees in the last decade there have been noticable shifts as more and more students apply to local universities or part-time/distance learning - the Open University has noticed a significant increase in the number of 18-21 year olds applying. Universities themselves are altering the pattern of provision of higher education to make it more locally available - look for instance at the article Combined Universities in Cornwall or at other universities that are expanding provision across the county/region, rather than creating more provision on a single site for people to go away to (e.g. the University of Kent, with expansion in the past decade in Medway, rather than around the existing Canterbury campus). Timrollpickering 17:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim is still there, I'm adding a citation needed tag for now. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 19:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distance (again) 

message: I believe fee's have been raised to £3175 for 08/09. Not sure though, so didn't want to edit the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.233.89 (talk) 13:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fees 

message: It has been my experience that students with dual EU/non-EU nationalities run the risk of being charged important overseas rates. A student who presents an official document, passport, etc. originating from a country not part of the EEA is exposed to the risk of being charged overseas rates, despite his possible European origins. For some Universities, that means multiplying the admission fees by ten. For example, a student presenting a double nationality, be it Canadian-French, or Ukrainian-English, will most likely be charged overseas rates, despite possible agreements between these countries (Commonwealth, etc.). The solution to this problem is to present only one citizenship to the University applied to: the European one.
--Achiappa (talk) 10:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding prospective students with a double nationality 

message: I have never encountered anyone who has used the name of their university within a post-nominal. I think this is confusing CV's, where locations are listed, with parenthesis such as (Hons) that are used post-nominal and indicate that the degree was awarded with Honours.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjmtlewy (talk • contribs) 22:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have, many times. It's particularly common in school and university prospectuses where the recruitment department are keen to show off the staff's qualifications. It also comes up a bit on email signatures and business cards. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-nominals 

message: I don't myself know how to do redirections, but if someone could fix it so that "Higher Education in Britain" was enought o get you to this page, I would like that ! Johncmullen1960 (talk) 12:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirections

message: The article says: "As universities in the United Kingdom have been publicly funded institutions, there is less corporate influence, with United Kingdom universities receiving much smaller financial endowments in comparison to what many of the larger universities in the United States of America receive."
That there is less corporate influence seems a pretty vague claim, what does it actually mean? I think it needs a citation and/or the wording tightening up.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corporate influence 

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