Talk:The God Delusion

message: The section on the book's reception could point out that Michael Ruse has said that it is books like this that make him ashamed to be an atheist (I have a feeling that I first read this in Wikipedia). Vorbee (talk) 18:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Pigs could fly, but not on Wikipedia without a reliable source and care over undue weight. . . dave souza, talk 18:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Michael Ruse

message: Apart from the first paragraph which has no details, this whole section is devoted to negative appraisals of the book. Is this a fair representation of the critical response to the book. Ashmoo (talk) 09:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hard to say. As this list shows, responding books to TGD had become something of an industry, and their mention here has grown at times until editors trimmed the section back. Barte (talk) 09:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Critical reception section

message: The problem with articles such as "The God Delusion" is that they fail to present information objectively. They constantly address arguments such as "Intelligent Design" as pseudoscientific but opposing arguments like The Big Bang & Evolution are presented as though they are factual (Even though these still remain theories up to today). One must observe & present this information from an unbiased standpoint so that the reader may decide how to interpret this information for themselves & trust that they are not being subliminally influenced to think in a certain way. Wikipedia is a worldwide source of information & they should not be "tricked" into believing one side of the argument more than the other. Repent.The End is Near (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: See our policy wp:WEIGHT and content guideline wp:FRINGE. More interesting pointers at wp:Five pillars. - DVdm (talk) 18:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Wikipedia reflects scientific consensus, which is not on the side of intelligent design. In addition, the task here is primarily to describe the book The God Delusion, not provide counter-arguments. If you're looking for a different model, you're looking for a different online encyclopedia.  Barte (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

text: Indeed. For clarification, intelligent design is pseudoscience (creation science relabelled) while the argument from design or teleological argument is theological apologetics, a supposed guide to the attributes of the deity. If any. . . dave souza, talk 18:38, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The OP is a crusader, and crusaders don't last long on Wikipedia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:52, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of objectivity when presenting information 

message: Should this article say that according to the blurb on the cover of the book, Derren Brown states that the book is his favourite book of all time? Vorbee (talk) 10:26, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Derren Brown's favourite book

message: I have a copy of this book on loan from a local public library, and I have go up to the chapter entitled "The Roots of Religion". Should this article point out that Dawkins would almost certainly fail an examination in the Psychology of Religion? This chapter never mentions the work of atheistic thinkers such as Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx and their theories as to how religion originates. Or would this be too much like inserting original research into Wikipedia? Vorbee (talk) 10:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not just "probably". Barte (talk) 14:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Psychology of religion