Talk:Jewish Buddhist

message: I've found at least three problems with the article: 
1. "although modern Reform Jews have historically opposed [meditation] in favor of a more rational, intellectual form of worship" - Reform Jews have had no issue of which I am aware with the practice of meditation. They've been uncomfortable in the past with Jewish mysticism (as have Conservative Jews and the Modern Orthodox), but even this is going by the wayside - and in any case, meditation is not necessarily attached to any form of mysticism. 
2. "In Buddhism, a bodhisattva is an enlightened person who has put off entry to paradise in order to help others gain enlightenment." - The goal of Buddhism is to attain enlightenment and enter into Nirvana (Skt.; Pali "Nibbana"), a state beyond birth and death. A Bodhisattva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva) is a being who has attained one of the bhumis, or stages of enlightenment, but has chosen to forestall full enlightenment in order to remain in the world to work to bring all sentient beings to enlightenment and liberation from samsara, the cycle of birth and death. Use of the term "Paradise" implies heaven or a heaven-like state, which is not the goal. (There are Pure Lands, and taking rebirth in one of them can be a goal, but it is a way-station, rebirth in which precludes rebirth in the human realm or one of the "lower realms" while one continues to work toward achieving enlightenment.) 
3. "some scholars of the Bible have speculated that Christ lived through several past lives, including as the pre-Israelite king Melchizedek and the Asian monk Amitabha" - This is WAY off. Amitabha was/is not a monk, but a Buddha who presides over the Pure Land of Dewachen (Tib.; Skt. "Sukhavati"), which is believed to be the easiest Pure Land in which to take rebirth and is the temporary goal of practitioners of Pure Land Buddhism (there are also Pure Land practices within Tibetan Buddhism that are meant to facilitate rebirth in Dewachen). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Land_Buddhism  
Also, I don't know of any reputable academic scholars who either advocate for Christ's having had multiple lives, or who believe the New Testament is implying as much. Jeyges (talk) 15:49, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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message: Pema Chödrön is a Jew? Do you have reference to it? Like a book or some online biography? - Nearfar 06:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pema Chödrön is a Jew? 

message: I'd like to suggest moving the page from Jubus to Jubu. One detail has been bugging me since I first stumbled across the page: the plural in the title. Most articles dealing with ethnic or religious groups do not list themselves in the plural form, but in the singular (Latter Day Saint, etc.). "Jubus" is even slightly difficult to read in the plural - "Jubu" looks like a neologism, whereas "Jubus" looks like a Latin term, requiring a different set of pronunciation rules. Every time I see the plural out of context, I want to pronounce it with two short "u"s (as in but), and a final [s] rather than a final [z]. Imagine Jeebus, but beginning with the word "just". sigh. Is these too insignificant to warrant a page move to Jubu? If there's no counterargument, it's a week until I'm WP:BOLD. samwaltz 15:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article move - Jubu

message: Israe's 1st prime minister was a buddhist. he said that buddhism is not a religion but a way of life which doesn't contradict the jewish faith.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.38.148 (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  David ben-Gurion 

message: The first sentence reads:
"A  Jewish Buddhist (also Jubu or Buju) is a person with a Jewish ethnic or religious background who practices forms of Buddhist meditation and spirituality."
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No source has been provided asserting that a Jewish Buddhist has "a Jewish ethnic or religious background." This is original research. No source supports such an assertion. 
That sentence can be rewritten to read as follows: 
"A  Jewish Buddhist (also Jubu or Buju) is a person with a Jewish background who practices forms of Buddhist meditation and spirituality."
The above version of the opening sentence makes none of the assertions (lacking in sources) about Jewish ethnic or Jewish religious background that were previously in the first sentence. Bus stop (talk) 01:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence 

message: A lot of people from other religions "practice[s] forms of Buddhist meditation and spirituality". If that is the defining element, than this article should be about all such people who carry on observing their own religious habits while at the same time "practic[ing] forms of Buddhist meditation and spirituality". Rui Gabriel Correia (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is specific about Jews? 

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message: Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN, don't restore without finding RS, checking the content against them, and citing them.  thx
;Origins==
The first recorded instance of an American being converted to Buddhism on American soil occurred at the 1893 World Conference on Religions. The convert was a Jewish man named Charles Strauss, who declared himself a Buddhist at a public lecture that followed the conference. Strauss later became an author and leading expositor of Buddhism in the West.The Jew in the Lotus: Jewish Identity in Buddhist India] Retrieved on June 5, 2007 After World War II, Western interest in Buddhism increased, often associated with the Beat generation. Zen was the most important influence at that time. A new wave of Jews became involved with Buddhism in the late 1960s. Prominent teachers included Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield and Sharon Salzberg who founded the Insight Meditation Society, Sylvia Boorstein who teaches at Spirit Rock Meditation Center,  all of whom learned vipassana meditation primarily through Thai teachers.  Another generation of Jews as Buddhist teachers emerged in the early 2000s, including author Taro Gold, expounding Japanese traditions such as Nichiren Buddhism.
 
;Practice==
According to the Ten Commandments and classical Jewish law (halacha), it is forbidden for any Jew to worship any deity other than the God of Israel – specifically by bowing, offering incense, sacrifices and/or poured libations. It is likewise forbidden to join or serve in another religion because doing so would render such an individual an apostate or an idol worshipper. Since most Buddhists do not consider the Buddha to have been a god, Jewish Buddhists do not consider Buddhist practice to be worship. This is despite some practices including incense and food offerings made to a statue of the Buddha, and both prostration and bowing done before a statue of the Buddha. In addition, many Buddhists (particularly Theravada Buddhists) do not worship the Buddha but instead "revere" and "express gratitude" for the Buddha's (and all buddhas') accomplishment and compassionate teaching (that is, discovering and teaching the Dharma so others might be released from suffering and achieve Nirvana).
-- Jytdog (talk) 23:31, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced almost entirely 

message: Arguably THE most famous Western spiritual teacher. Whilst technically in a Hindu tradition, his teaching is heavily Buddhist. He even wrote the preface to one version of the Dhammapada - the sayings of the Buddha. Frankfebruary (talk) 17:42, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ram Das - Richard Alpert!! 

message: The article speaks about Jewish Buddhists as if they have a uniform practice, which is clearly not the case, as the Jewish Buddhists mentioned here are of many, many different schools of Buddhism and relation to Judaism. The "practice" section is a real problem here, since it's full of original research WP:OR about some concept of Jewish Buddhist practice. The section also does not cite any sources, so I've taken the liberty to remove it.
I'm now going to go through and remove any further unnecessary information, since this article is seemingly supposed to be about a demographic phenomenon and nothing more. Another article comparing the two religions, called Buddhism and Judaism, would be much more appropriate for the information about their overlapping or similar beliefs. (see: Buddhism and Christianity) In fact, I may go ahead and do the work of creating such a page and migrating that belief/ideas information there and keep only the demographically-relevant information here. Bagabondo (talk) 09:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awful lot of original research here 

message: I have not come across any books saying this for sure. But from my research on other Chinese religious topics, I'm sure there has to have been some Jewish Buddhists there or in another country before 1893. GoutComplex (talk) 22:02, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Jewish Buddhists