Talk:Robert Mugabe/Archive 4

message: I have a mind to break out the subject of the war of independence and its immediate aftermath, and the Alphabet soup of ZANU, ZAPU, ZIPRA etc. There are things to say about Intertribal rivalries, Intratribal rivalries, factions, some glossing over of irregularities in the 1980 election, and assassinations of leaders and US tourists. It is very relevant to Mugabe, but this page is getting too long already, and I do not want to have to repeat it all on the Zimbabwe page. Yes, no, Name of page, please ? Wizzy 15:41, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Zimbabwe revolutionary war

message: Perhaps this link belongs on the Zimbabwe page, rather than here.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/research/freeworld/2003/countryratings/zimbabwe.htm
Our anonymous editor has been trying quite hard to find a compromise, and it was suggested that they add an external link. I think 172's point is that anyone reading this page for the first time can easily see that Bob is not a popular guy, and a little more mud doesn't make him any muddier. Wizzy 11:19, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.freedomhouse.org 

message: "On 18 March 1975, lawyer and ZANU leader Herbert Chitepo, who had avoided detention, was killed by a bomb placed in his car while in Zambia and Mugabe, in Mozambique at the time, unilaterally assumed control of ZANU. Later that year, after squabbling with Ndabaningi Sithole, he became leader of a militant ZANU faction, leaving Sithole to lead the moderate Zanu (Ndonga) party, which renounced violent struggle." --- I think this paragraph needs a cleanup/rephrasing, at least of the first and second sentences. Way too many commas. :S I would do it myself, but I haven't quite figured out what it is supposed to say. If you know, please fix it. :) Brutulf 23:34, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
=== At the Pope's Funeral ===
I just heard on several different news services, CNN Fox and MSNBC, that Robert Mugabe apparently showed up at the Pope's funeral and there was a loophole in Italian law that prevented anyone from arresting him - apparently Mugabe himself is Catholic - and he used the occassion to attack European leaders for their hardlining stance on his country.  He also said something along the lines of "I'm praying for God to kill him" in regards to the Zimbabwe Archbishop calling for an uprising against him.  --TheBurningHelm 22:41, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear paragraph 

message: I just heard on several different news services, CNN Fox and MSNBC, that Robert Mugabe apparently showed up at the Pope's funeral and there was a loophole in Italian law that prevented anyone from arresting him - apparently Mugabe himself is Catholic - and he used the occassion to attack European leaders for their hardlining stance on his country.  He also said something along the lines of "I'm praying for God to kill him" in regards to the Zimbabwe Archbishop calling for an uprising against him.  --TheBurningHelm 22:41, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  At the Pope's Funeral 

message: Does anyone know anything about this (he was apparently given this distinction in 1994)? 20:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: At the OBE article, it lists Mugabe having the order since 1994, and his post-nominal letters are KBE. However, I mainly see it at the German Wikipedia. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:12, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot seem to find it. I could try to launch an email, but I have no idea to where. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knight Commander Order of the British Empire

message: I dont know if anybody here heard this, or can back it up. A few months ago I heard a speech by Robert Mugabe in which he described himself as the "..black Hitler". This is a rather damning comment, has anyone else (on wikipedia) heard this, can back it up? If so, perhaps it should be added somwhere in the article as this is quite a statement. ( It would read a bit POV, though.) Banes 13:28, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote was "This Hitler has only one objective: justice for his people, sovereignty for his people, recognition of the independence of his people and their rights over their resources. If that is Hitler, then let me be a Hitler tenfold. - Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe." . This was in response to Western accusations comparing him to Hitler. Greenman 15:39, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Righto! I thought it was something like that, I could have sworn he called himself a new Hitler or something. Oh well, never mind. If that is what he said then it is not that important.--Banes 19:47, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad comment 

message: Becuase it suggests that he is mainly criticised by foreigners. There is nowhere near enough about criticism of him by Zimbabweans to balance it out. Rhollenton 17:10, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you elaborate a bit more on what you feel isn't being covered?  I do see a number of references to the MDC here as well as several to the work of Pius Ncube.  Who else do you feel we need to include to make it neutral?  Don't hesitate to add the information in yourself--after all, that's what Wiki is all about!  Let's see if we can get this edited to everyone's satisfaction so we can get that tag back off the article.  --Dvyost 01:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: This is not a neutral article

message: I have met some Rhodesians who left after Mugabe took over. They reckon that Mugabe was a raving nutcase even as early as the late 1960's. One could say that he is on a par with Gerry Adams, who is the leader of Sinn Féin/I.R.A. & a mass murderer as well. - (Aidan Work 05:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mugabe - a raving nutcase!