Talk:Gulbuddin Hekmatyar

message: What gets qualified and what doesn't in this article doesn't make any sense to me.  For example, it unflincingly said that Hekmatyar received $b's of anti-Soviet US military assistance, but shied away from saying that he was aided by the ISI, which was the conduit through which the US funded the anti-Soviet resistance dollars.  I've tried to strike a reasonable balance, but better, we need some more sources... DanKeshet
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You need to read the book "Bear Trip: Afghanistan's untold story" by Brig. Youssif to know about these complicated issues. The comments about his ISI/CIA links are quite accurate as mentioned here. I think he mentions that over 20% of all the CIA money supplied for anti-Russian resistance were given to his party through ISI.
Second edition (probably third edition too) of Politics of Heroin by Alfred W. McCoy has all the information on Pakistans formation of Hekmatyars group in the early 1970s, the CIA funding & arming through ISI, protection of his heroin syndicate, and lovely anecdotes about Hekmatyar throwing vials of acid into the faces of women who refused to wear veils. LamontCranston (talk) 02:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More sources?

message: I think the article should also mention the many reports, that Hekmatyar more and more attacked other Mujaheddin groups instead of the Soviet invaders. During the siege of Kabul it was him who kept firing hundreds of rockets a day indiscriminately into the city killing lots of people. This is widely known and published, I have also heard this by talking to witnesses who were in Kabul during that time (among them my own mother).PS: There is also this accusation, that he used to throw acid into the faces of women who weren't dressed according to (in his eyes) 'Muslim laws'...following Messhermits comment in the Massoud and Fahim biographies, that one should basically keep unproven rumours until they re proven to be wrong,  I guess it should be added here, too!? haroon 18:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since you are new in Wiki, I will not pay attention to that kind of attitude against my person. If you don't have anything important that can contribute to create a better article, pls restrain from editing. Messhermit 20:13, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I won't say anything about your person, anyone who wants can see it from the articles, comments and edits you have made. I had posted this comment to point out the double standard about rumours and facts. Since those instances have been corrected, completing this article with more information about Hekmatyars crimes is not that high-priority. haroon 21:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rockets on Kabul 

message: I wonder why someone put up tese comments saying Pakistanis calll him power hungry and this and that.I have done ost research on Hekmatyar and met several journalists who know him...especially people from Karachi's Takbeermagazine....Hekmatyar has always been a Pro Pakistani and thats why he never wagd war against Pakistani backed Taliban despite losing power.....so need need to say he  is power hungry..--Yahoo 13:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hekmatyar A Friend Of Pakistan 

message: He's in twice as being Primer Minister of Afghanistan.  Both occasions have the same dates of his tenure, but have different successors/predecessors. I've added a contradiction message Murphykieran 18:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prime Minister boxout 

message: According to the CIA World Fact Book there are several groups who's titles begin with Hizb-i-Islami. None of them mention Hekmatyar. Which one is he affilitated with?
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar is a gay, many people in Afghanistan  saying this. Wen he was a young boy he used to live with a homosexual feudal in northern Afghanistan. He has many sexual skandals and everybody knows him as a gay.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.212.51.193 (talk) 22:42, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Check this out: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/indict/2002/02cr892.pdf Hekmatyar and bin Ladin go back a long way. LDH 17:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hizb-i Islami 

message: The article (especially in the "Early Life" section) still lionizes Hekmatyar's supposed resistance against the Soviet occupation, but in their books Peter Bergen and Steven Coll both accuse Hekmatyar of doing most of his fighting against other Mujahideen (especially Massoud) and generally avoiding battle with the communists.  Nomenclaturist 21:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet "Resistance" 

message: "It is important to note that the CIA had no official active involvement in allocating funds to individual resistance commanders; the ISI exclusively decided who to provide funds and arms to"
What if this sentence was written this way: "It is important to note that Al Qaeda had no official active involvement in allocating funds to individual resistance commanders; the ISI (Islamic State of Iraq) exclusively decided who to provide funds and arms to"
Basically that line sounds like apologist bs to me. Richard Cane 04:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "ISI" == Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate -- an organ of the Pakistani Government.  It has nothing to do with Iraq.  I have never heard of Iraq being called the ISI.  Geo Swan (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIA Support 

message: "Gulbuddin Hekmatyar is a popular figure as an Afghan Mujahideen or rebel commanders"...
Popular figure? Anyone else thinking this is not very good? Greswik 14:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits today

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message: According to the BBC today (4 Feb 2017) the UN have removed him from their terror list, probably connected with the peace deal late last year. This article seems to make no mention of the UN at all, let alone sanctions. Could someone who knows about this person could clarify the UNited Nations stance.
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message: The article should not be referring to any "Soviet Occupation," because iirc the DRA was allied to the USSR and asked for their military assistance to combat the Mujahideen.
"Soviet Occupation" (of Afghanistan) is anti-communist, anglophone propaganda. And the sooner English speakers realize this, the more truthful their histories will be. 2601:5CF:8000:6B60:817B:D04:240C:74E3 (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The Soviets liquidated Afghan president Amin Hafizullah Amin (the one they apparently came to "rescue") when they marched in. Does that also qualify as "military assistance"? --Jo1971 (talk) 13:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They did it in support for Babrak Karmal, Parcham and the Gang of Four (all Afghan members) that previously tried to assassinate Amin beforehand AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 14:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Soviet Occupation" 

message: In the late 1960s or early 1970s, there was a rumor circulating that Gulbuddin was kicked out of a military school for allegedly kissing a boy, which my grandpa witnessed (he was also in the Royal Afghan Army at the time). Could this rumor be added into the article? AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 14:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Read WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:NOTGOSSIP. Cambial — foliar❧ 16:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense. Thank you for your reply. I additionally talked to Gulbuddin’s former commander in Khost who claimed it was Republican (1973–1978) propaganda. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 17:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gulbuddin Sexuality Rumors