Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 43

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Hitler in a prayer-like position, which he used often, probably to boost his influence with the Christian population of Germany.
Does it have a reference or citation for this speculation? Otherwise it falls under WP:OR--Crossmr 02:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference for speculation 

message: I wish to add source material for reference in this article. I have already included the circumstance by which Adolf Hitler entered the Bavarian Army at the outset of WWI, however the source for this inclusion is not listed in source materials. ("The Rise and Fall of Adolf Hitler", by William L. Shirer, c1961, Landmark Books / Random House, First Printing) How exactly do I add to the footnotes section, and reference the footnote in the body text?
68.127.232.228 20:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference Addition 

message: There is a section in this article that has a contrary series of circumstances and events to what other source material says regarding the "Beer Putsch" that took place on November 8th, 1923. In William Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of Adolf Hitler", he states that Gustav von Kahr, General Lossow and Colonel Hans von Seisser had organised the political rally at the Buergerbraukeller, which was attended by supporters of the Bavarian government. He goes on to write that "...Kahr was in the middle of his speech when a revolver shot was heard in the hall. Hitler had jumped up on a table and to attract attention had fired his pistol at the ceiling." Further reading of this chapter reveals that the three organisers of the rally were herded into a back room, had a loaded pistol held to their heads, and demanded that they join his revolution.
The Wiki article states that at that time, they were ALREADY party to Hitler's plans, which would contradict what Shirer states in his work.
Does anyone have source material that supports the historical version written here? If not, then I suggest that, since Mr. Shirer was decidedly an authority on Adolf Hitler and the history of Nazi Germany's rise to power, that the writing of the event be changed to correspond with William Shirer's accounting of the circumstances.
68.127.232.228 04:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bravo! Sounds like you have it dialed in, what is the source material for that though? (Don't tell me it's Shirer, if so then it must be an update to the first printing of his book!)
Edit Centric 20:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circumstances of The Beer Putsch 

message: I have created Portal:Nazism but do not know enough to get it up and running, perhaps someone could help out or weigh in on whether or not such a portal is viable. I made a comment on the talk page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Fascism about the fact that it may be cannibalizing the target audience, i.e. it will turn into one of those portals that sits on a shelf if the main person (me) stops contributing to it because no one else cares enough. What do you think? Romperomperompe 06:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal 

message: I was just wondering, shouldn't this page be protected? There are many vandalizations on this article. Aeneiden-Rex 14:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but still, the article is frequently vandalized so it would be good, so you don't have to revert stuff every single second. Aeneiden-Rex 09:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection?

message: On his show tonight, Stephen Colbert claimed that most Americans loved Hitler during World War II and his interviewee claimed he must have read that on Wikipedia (another jab at this site's sometimes shady information). Sure enough, some people have been adding that fact to the article. Should it be temporarily protected from unknown edits like the elephant articles were? --mobo85 04:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank god he mumbled it and Colbert spoke over him.  Should minimize the damage.... I hope.  JDoorjam     Talk 06:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess many Americans did admire Hitler - but that fact, even if it could be verified, is not relevant to this article.--Shtove 08:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't we stick to serious sources? Str1977 (smile back) 16:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget the Lutherans...how do you say "dance, monkeys" in German? Colbert knows...YIKES. His fans are getting worse than Rush Limbaugh's...Michael Dorosh 21:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be "Tanzt, (ihr) Affen!" Str1977 (smile back) 23:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Colbert Report

message: ishitleralive.ytmnd.com/
I know YTMND is a joke site, but this could be factual.
:No, it really couldn't. --Golbez 04:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler alive? 

message: In a recent TV-documentary Hitlers personal typist (Recently deceased) stated that Hitler had a glass of white wine at dinner from time to time and that he told her it was the only alcoholic beverage he coul apreciate sometimes, mainly as an 'aperitive' before dinner.
I did not include this in the article however as I can not remember the typist's name. Perhaps someone could find this out  81.245.170.52 13:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler and alcohol 

message: Should we protect this page from anaon users? With the high level of vandalism this article is suffering from, I feel that a concrete action must be done soon. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do it. I was feeling the same.  Aran|heru|nar 12:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protect this page from non-logged in users? 

message: User:Gidonb has removed this table from text. I consider it a vandal.
Nazi Party Accomplishments
Date
   Votes   
  Percentage  
Seats in Reichstag
Events
May 1924
1,918,300
6.5
32
Hitler in prison
December 1924
907,300
3.0
14
Hitler is released from prison
May 1928
810,100
2.6
12
September 1930
6,409,600
18.3
107
After the financial crisis
July 1932
13,745,800
37.4
230
After Hitler was candidate for presidency
November 1932
11,737,000
33.1
196
March 1933
17,277,000
43.9
288
While Hitler is the Chancellor of Germany
--Haham hanuka 10:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Learn wikitable format please. And as the reverter said, it's better in the specific article. Finally, please don't call a content dispute vandalism. We hate that. --Golbez 10:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not vandalism. Be nice, :). Aran|heru|nar 12:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a table is not particular fitting to an article on the person Hitler, rather more to an article on the NSDAP or Weimar Republic election results. All with proper wording and formatting of course. Str1977 (smile back) 12:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

text: There is a problem with the table. Whether he is tracking your edits or has something against you does not matter. I would remove it myself if I saw it. If he made other edits that you find are unjustfiably against you, then you can leave him a friendly note and tell him to stop it. Aran|heru|nar 14:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: What is the Birmoverse and why should there be such a category? Str1977 (smile back) 23:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birmoverse

message: I have commonly heard it asserted that Adolf Hitler had only one testicle. Is this a myth? Whether it is or not, why is it not addressed at least briefly in the article? It is true Hitler only had one testicle.
::Answer:  This idea is not a serious rumor but comes from a comical set of verses to the British "Colonel Bogey's March" (best known as the march in the film "The Bridge Over the River Kwai").  "Hitler/Has only got one ball/Goring/Has two but they are small/Himmler/Has something sim'lar/ And poor old Goballs/Has no balls/At all."  No need to address frivolities like this in this article.
::It's probably a myth, but there is some supporting evidence. The Russian Hitler autopsy claimed it was true. Rosenbaum's book Explaining Hitler has a good discussion of this important issue. See also Hitler has only got one ball. Paul B 09:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we stop this silly discussion? Str1977 (smile back) 17:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid you don't decide what people can discuss. Paul B 21:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But I may always hope in the sense of my fellow human beings. Though, sometimes that is limited. ;-) Str1977 (smile back) 12:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just be thankful we weren't discussing the Billy-Goat Bite Theory. See Rosenbaum p. xxx. Paul B 20:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Testicles

message: Is the Repression section really appropriate for the this page? After all, it contains hardly any information about Hitler himself. It would be more appropriate for the Nazi Germany, NSDAP or Gestapo page, rather than here. Sure, Hitler was the driving force behind it, but by that logic you could squeeze the whole Third Reich history into this page. --Frescard 05:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repression Section 

message: A few reputable historians have claimed that Hitler was a lifelong virgin, as no one has yet to fully verify if he engaged in sexual relations with ANYONE.  Does this warrant mentioning in the article?  --152.163.100.74 06:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How many people can "fully verify" that you're not a virgin? ;) --Frescard 06:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside from one claim that Hitler was "physically unable to perform the sexual act" (which did not receive widespread acceptance) the evidence points to Hitler having a sex life. He once remarked "for love I keep myself a young girl" - that girl was Eva Braun. Anyway, do we really need to reflect unprovable claims like him being a virgin (apart from a contrafactual vow of lifelong continence). Str1977 (smile back) 08:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virgin? 

message: Hitler was the only child of a mom that loved him greatly. His father persihed and his mom had many miscarriages so she loved him like any overprotective mother would. He was given anything and di d antyhing he wanted to do this might have had an impact on his career.
He had a sister.  What you say is true of many people, who do not all rise to be important world leaders.  Be careful of reducing history to personal profiles.
White Guard 19:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  hitler childhood