Template talk:WikiProject banner shell/Archive 1

message: Can anyone help make  suitable for nesting (if that is the right expression)? Carcharoth 16:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure.  I've added the nesting option to that template. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Let's see if all this works at Talk:J. R. R. Tolkien and Talk:The Lord of the Rings... Carcharoth 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, I forgot that the other WikiProjects on those talk pages are behind the curve at the moment. :-) They haven't implemented the nesting option. Oh well. I still added WP:M-E to the list on the front page here. Carcharoth 21:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One template at a time... :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template update request 

message: Could someone help out on  and  so they could be nested? Thanx! – Paschmitts 01:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like the Pittsburgh one was done.  I've updated WPSchools.  Let me know if it doesn't work. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  took care of .  seems to  work fine. Thanx for your help. – Paschmitts 20:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help for a couple of Project Banners 

message: Hi, I recently implemented this nifty template on . I was wondering if I could view the source and/or somehow use this as a baseline to create a similar shell template for College & Pro coaching templates like . We're running into the same clutter problem from some of the more traveled coaches. Вasil | talk 05:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the NBA Champions templates, for example, . —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code use for coaching templates 

message: I'll contact the projects and add it myself if I can, but this can be an open to-do list. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nested Parameter Needed! 

message: Does anyone know why there's a  on Talk:Joseph Sadoc Alemany?  It breaks the box but it doesn't seem to be the fault of either Template:SFBAProject or Template:WPBiography. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see anything on Karl Mark.  I'll check the SFBAProject template and see if I can find it. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found and removed the extra space from the SFBA template. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks!  Now I can look for similar problems if I should see the space again. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 22:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you show me where there's an issue?  Talk:Jean Baptiste Pointe du Sable isn't having a problem before or after, so I don't think it's WP:Caribbean... -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I fixed it myself; the cache just hadn't updated.  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 01:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Joseph Sadoc Alemany]] 

message: Can someone add the parameters to ? I'll figure out how soon enough, but ... TAnthony 16:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do.  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Done. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You rock ;)  TAnthony 18:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request

message: Please add nested parameter to  and .  The first is needed to do nesting on Muhammad Ali and the second one on Tom Cruise. Thanks! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the code to both templates. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks!  That template will also come in very handy. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also note that the list of compliant banners is updated by the bot weekly when it makes the list of articles.  It actually runs through :Category:WikiProject banners to determine that. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requests

message: Template:WikiProject Bridges article is protected. Can somebody upgrade it with nested functionality? Thanks. Shinhan 17:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put in a request on the talk page. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Bridges 

message: and  needs the nesting feature when someone has a chance please.--Kranar drogin 00:31, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done and Done.  Going backpacking in Utah? :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, I wish. I just happened to find it when I was putting a few wikiprojects in. Thanks for your help!--Kranar drogin 01:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backpacking and LDS Project 

message: I've come across some parameter weirdness with a couple of changed templates:
*:Template:WikiProject Soap Operas and :Template:LGBTProject - Check out Talk:Lena Kundera; the auto=yes parameter won't cooperate for either template :(
*:Template:Film - See Talk:Tusenbröder, the "Article Upgrading" box is also troublesome, and I think the "infobox needed" box is off as well ...
Can anyone help? Thanks in advance! TAnthony
: Personally, I just remove auto templates. You should just evaluate the article yourself. If you feel its of stub quality, mark it as such; if you think its better, like Start quality say so. If stub template is still present thats one of the indications of stub quality. As for Article Upgrading thats a bigger problem though. Most projects just use separate "To Do" list :/ Shinhan 05:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I assess an article and remove the auto tag when I come across it, but I envision random bots and AWB runs leaving hundreds of these in their wake daily, and was hoping the templates could at least be made compatible. The Film project is a big one, and again, the template is better fixed than ignored. TAnthony 05:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "auto=yes" never cooperates in any template that has it.  Most of the projects just leave it - since it's so glaring, it's an incentive to rate the article, just to get rid of that box :)  As for Film, take it up with them.  I argued to collapse the "upgrading needed" - or at least make it fit the shell - but it's been kept the way it is. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 13:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tricky template fixes?

message: Can somebody fix ? Its breaking up the BannerShell if any of the following is set to yes: needs-infobox, attention, peer-review, old-peer-review. If neither of those is set to yes it works normally. Shinhan 16:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give an example? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dallas 

message: I've "updated" the following templates (among others), but they still don't seem to be working. Can someone familiar with the complexities troubleshoot them?
*, see Talk:Amino acid
*, see Talk:Amino acid
Thanks. TAnthony 05:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Spooky: After noticing  working fine elsewhere, I just solved the problem by switching the order of these two templates on Talk:Amino acid (putting  before ). Any idea why that would make a difference? This quirk should be fixed if possible, or noted somewhere here. TAnthony 05:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Same thing occurred on Talk:Aikido with  and ; reordering the two solves it. TAnthony 05:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, your edits to change from WikiProjectBanners -> WikiProjectBannerShell have been reverted in both cases.  However, in looking at the past versions, I see nothing wrong with either set of templates.  Don't know why it wasn't working, but it seems to have been fixed? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, maybe it was a server-catchup thing. Anyway, Raul654 pointed out the mutual agreement not to convert WikiProjectBanners to WikiProjectBannerShell and vice-versa, but I was doing it to identify templates which are not compliant with WikiProjectBannerShell and update them. Any suggestion how to find them another way?  Maybe there is no easy way, or you'd have done it already. TAnthony 06:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Preview". Just do a preview instead of saving the page after changing to BannerShell and you'll see non-compliant projects without changing the talk page. If you wish to change banners to bannershell, you'll have to ask on each individual talk page. Shinhan 11:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SatyrTN had a good idea, see below. TAnthony 14:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hmmm

message: For :Template:WP Crime. Thanks... Videmus Omnia 19:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You got it! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also :Template:WikiProject Mexican-Americans, thanks! Videmus Omnia 04:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whats next? Shinhan 05:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template update request... 

message: :Template:WikiProject Baltimore City College. Videmus Omnia 18:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also :Template:WPAbortion, thanks. (I'm running across these in the process of article tagging.) Videmus Omnia 19:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and :Template:Project FBI. Videmus Omnia 19:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text:  Also fixed , its class and importance were way too wide.  Shinhan 20:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:Banner WPSLR. Videmus Omnia 20:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  by Shinhan.  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 20:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  One more 

message: :Template:WikiProject Beauty Pageants. Videmus Omnia 14:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shinhan 14:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another template 

message: I found an article with 7 WikiProjects! Talk:Latin cultures. Anybody else found same or more? 
Also, some other page had WPBiography put twice o.O Shinhan 11:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Talk:Italian War of 1521-1526 and Talk:War of the League of Cambrai each have seven ... TAnthony 03:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project records 

message: If I'm not mistaken, then this template should be placed in :Category: Article talk header templates, and maybe listed in Wikipedia:Template messages/Talk namespace#WikiProject notices as well. --Latebird 18:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about the category, and have added this banner to the Template messages page. Shinhan 18:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, when people are converting project templates for compatibility (if you're not all done by now) you should leave a link to the project in the edit summary. When I first noticed the edit to the  banner, I had no idea what was meant by nesting and only found out when about a week later I came across a page that had it's banners nested. —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 08:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I always say "Implementing support for Template:WikiProjectBannerShell" in my edit summary. And thats a really good objection because there is nothing else to connect the banner editing with this project. Shinhan 12:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you and also for your note in the thread at the top of the page. —Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 16:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hard to find 

message: Um, I just finished my Z to A task on the banner category and I think it's possible that except for these tricky ones
* 
* 
* 
*
and perhaps a few stragglers, we may be near 100% compliant with current templates?!  Somebody run that bot! TAnthony 22:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done – Good job!  Compliance: 98.52% as of this writing.  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 23:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome! A quick scan of your User:MadmanBot/Report does tell me that the holdouts are basically the tricky ones we've discussed elsewhere on this page. Yay for us. TAnthony 00:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I took care of . The others look more difficult. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 07:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Department of Fun has only one transclusion (and that in Wikipedia namespace), its not important. I have done other two. Shinhan 10:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Done?!

message: :Template:WikiProject Durham NC. Videmus Omnia 23:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: and I added it to the WP banner category. TAnthony 23:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straggler 

message: I've been going through and removing instances of  and updating templates that have had the nesting code inserted or whose nesting was broken. Right now, I'm down to about 100 uses.
Templates that I've added or fixed nesting:
*Template:WikiProject DC (fixed)
*Template:Wikiproject Emo music
*Template:WPZOO (fixed)
*Template:Project Wesleyan
*Template:WikiProject Retailing
*Template:WikiProject UK
*Template:WPMAN
*Template:Magic
*Template:WikiProject Galicia
--Farix (Talk) 19:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely orphaned now. --Farix (Talk) 21:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fantastic!  Thanks!  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 04:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this mean someone will be deleting/merging the template, or ... TAnthony 19:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's still of use as a stopgap should a WikiProject banner not be -compatible.  No real need to get rid of it right now.  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 20:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaning {{tl|BannerShell}} 

message: Are there any pages that have BannerShell and WikiProject banners outside those shells? And can fixing that be automated (using that preg_replace from Madman's talk page)? Shinhan 15:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to SatyrTN, his bot identifies those pages; mine does not.  It is currently impossible for it to do so using the method it does.  However, it is very thorough, and those pages would be in the minority; they'd get fixed eventually.  That preg_replace would fix it, as long as you knew what banner was outside the shell, grabbed it, and all of its parameters, and removed it before the preg_replace so you didn't have a duplicate. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  banners outside the bannershell 

message: :Template:Global perspective task force. Videmus Omnia 19:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added it to the WikiProject banners category but I just noticed that the template itself needs an expert's touch ... ;) TAnthony 19:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 20:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  One more 

message: Have a look at Talk:2005 Texas Longhorn football team; I think  is messing it up somehow. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if you take out  it all works fine, and if you move it to the top the other WPs and everything after them actually disappear! I looked thru the template for a missing hidden-message-close (-->) or whatever, but ... TAnthony 14:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed it. I figured that it had to do with peer-review and old-peer-review, and messed with those until it worked. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 16:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd banner error 

message: The above template has not been encoded for the nesting option. If anyone knows how to do so, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. John Carter 16:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , and added to WP banners category. TAnthony 16:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:WPTCT]] 

message: doesn't support nested; can someone fix?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , and added to WP banner category. TAnthony 14:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks !  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nested 

message: - Videmus Omnia  Talk  02:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , and added to WP banner category. TAnthony 03:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to add one