Talk:Volkswagen Golf

message: Unfortunately, McLernon tried to "Americanize" the Golf/Rabbit by softening the suspension and using cheaper materials for the interior.
This sounds too much like a point of view.  The use of the word "unfortunately" makes this statement sound more like a car review than an encyclopedia.  I would think you would be hardpressed to find this language in other articles.  I'm not a language expert, so I will leave it to those of you out there who are excellent with wording to fix this up.  Thanks! MatthewWilder 08:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewording Suggestion

message: Taking into account cars that keep their concept and basic layout but not necessarily their name it's the best selling car of all time worldwide.
Surely this means
Excluding cars that keep their concept and basic layout but not their name...
There are now many cars of identical "concept and basic layout", so what distinguishes the Golf is the long use of the same name. Andy G 00:28, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Best selling?

message: "The Golf IV was made in Germany, Brazil, Mexico, the Czech Republic and Belgium."
AFAIK the only cars made by VW in Czech Rep. are the Skoda brand. I never heard about any production of any Golf - maybe they buy few components. Unless someone knows better I'll remove CR from list at some time. Pavel Vozenilek 21:31, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in the Czech Republic, but in Bratislava (Slovakia) --EricS 01:34, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golf IV in Czech Republic? 

message: I added a pic of the rear badge and the front grill of a mk1, should deffinatly split the article up as has been suggested by others before, then we can get far more photos and details into it all. Nick carson 16:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mk 1 Golf

message: '''
Mk 2 Golf "G60 Limited"'''
I'm not good at writing an article about the Mark II g60 limited but i do know about the details. 
maybe your the one who like updating this article. interested? mail me kapotvers}at{gmail.com
Recently the car had a blow up g-charger (dont know the correct name for it "g-lader" in dutch) and a new one was built in instead.
this was done by the company geforce in the Netherlands. The car is expected to have 260+ Horsepower. Probably not many of these cars are still alive. but this one still is!
i can send you al the pictures and info.
[end message kth]
I think there's a mistake on line that says "These cars produced 212 bhp, making them the most powerful VW Golfs ever produced, until the introduction of the Mark 5 Golf R32 in 2005." because Mark 4 R32 already had 241hp which can be read later on at the very same page.
I don't dare to change it since I've never written anything to Wikipedia but perhaps a registered user could check that and correct if necessary.
: I fixed it.Andy Nguyen 19:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It refers to the G60 model.  In the UK, the Syncro was available as a 90bhp 1.8 carburettor fed 5-door but we never recieved the option of a supercharged Mk2 Golf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveGTI (talk • contribs) 09:46, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Mk 2 Golf 

message: I do not like the Mk. 4 Golf.
I don't like how the Mk. 4 was Volkswagen's attempt to bring Volkswagen more upscale, and have Seat and Skoda as the the cheap, low end brands.
I don't like how the Mk. 4 could be equipped with luxury leather, rain sense wipers, in addition to the Mk. 4 being the heavist generation of all.
I'm glad that the Mk. 5 will take the car back to where it was during the Mk.2 and the Mk.3.
The Mk. 2, and the Mk.3 are the generations I like the best, I don't care about the Mk.4 at all, and the only Mk. 1 that I care about is the pickup truck.
The Mk.1 Golf/Rabiit is nothing but the size of a new Mini Cooper, and today's current generation Polo.
I also don't like Volkswagen's weirdo commercials, all these sales they've been having.
I like Volkswagen's Fahrvergnugen commercials better, the ones where it starts out with the Fahrvergnugen driver symbol, and then the scene views into the car driving inside the Fahrvergnugen symbol, and the actor says: Slip into the 1990 Volkswagen Golf, or slip into the 1990 Volkswagen Jetta and experience Fahrvergnugen.
* US-American commercial? Is that Fahrvergnugen commercial US-American? I don't remember seeing it in Europe, just the USA. --TGC55 21:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mk 4 Golf

message: The Golf IV section of the article says "The Golf IV was the heaviest, largest and slowest version to date".  This sounds very close to being NPOV to me: *every* new generation of Golf has been the heaviest and largest to date, and this is probably true for virtually every other car in the world, too.  (Why don't we say "The Golf V is the heaviest and largest version to date" in the Golf V section?)
It sounds like a not-so-subtle way of some writer saying he's not happy with the engine in his Golf.  :-)
Can't blame him, it's great on surface streets but I say a prayer every time I take my Golf IV on the highway.
GH - a suggestion; although this page may not be the ideal place, somewhere, I suggest, it would be good to have a comparison of the various models of [here] VW Golf: length, width, height and kerb weight.  I understand that the Mk V is almost twice the weight of the Mk I [17xx Kg to 9xx Kg, I believe].  How much of this is because of legally mandated safety [etc.] systems, such as air bags, crumple zones and so on?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.59.206 (talk) 05:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Years later and there's still no dimensions, esp length, width, & weight.  Doe anybody know where to find this info?  All other makes on WP have this info. Santamoly (talk) 21:28, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heaviest and biggest? 

message: I already added an image of a Golf Pink Floyd a while ago. However, there were several other Golf editions that included a distinct exterior decal package, at least in Europe, that should probably be mentioned in the article. As far as I know, these were:
*Europe (1993, named to celebrate the Maastricht Treaty)
*Joker (1997)
*New Orleans (1994)
*Pink Floyd (1994-1995)
*Rolling Stones (1995)
*Bon Jovi (1996)
Here are some pictures of these. I haven't added these to the article (yet):
Image:GolfRollingStones.jpg|Golf Rolling Stones Collection, seen at a used car lot, a 1996 model
Image:VWGolfNewOrleans.jpg|Golf New Orleans
Image:VWGolfEuropeEdition.jpg|Golf Europe
Image:VWGolfPinkFloydLogo.jpg|Close-up of Pink Floyd lettering on Golf Pink Floyd wagon
ProhibitOnions 11:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added the gallery to the article to prevent the photos from being deleted. I have pictures of the other editions as well, which I will upload in a day or two (except for the Bon Jovi, which I'm still searching for... ProhibitOnions 12:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They put stickers on it and that becomes a special edition? lol YCCHAN 19:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh-heh. Basically, yes. Actually, the edition usually included a list of specific extras. This seemed to be a Volkswagen Big Idea at the time, but they haven't repeated it with later Golfs. I like both Pink Floyd and the Rolling Stones, but I'm not sure I'd want to drive around in a car with their logo on it. ProhibitOnions 23:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golf III editions 

message: I don't think we should be adding information on the Golf 6 as it still hasn't officially been announced. vw12 04:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Golf Mk.6

message: Isn't there an article for that? --Bhtooefr 19:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jetta? 

message: This was a separate article which I merged into this article as a section, per the consensus at AfD. I didn't edit the section at all, and it's not the greatest section, reads sort of like a puff piece. Herostratus 01:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I made it a Mk I-subsection because it's only about the MkI(Rabbit)-GTi.--BSI 11:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I think the external references section you merged from the rabbit gti article can now be deleted. It was useful when this article still incorporated the whole rabbit gti article. But since this has been chopped down and rewritten to a appropriate sub-section, I don't think all those references for an article that doesn't even exist anymore are still needed.--BSI 10:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volkswagen Rabbit GTI 

message: :Why was the list of External Golf links removed yet the list of Rabbit links left intact???  The Golf links are much more useful than the Rabbit links, which includes the likes of http://www.wolfsport.com/, which is clearly a commercial site.  I put the VW Golf links back in.  Andy 15:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links? 

message: Hi, I was wondering if anyone has seen the ad for the "Rabbit" in Canada (and it could be the same elsewhere). There is a song playing in the ad, and it is very catchy, but I have no idea what it is or where I could find it. Does anyone know?--156.34.211.59 16:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It does have a great saxophone duo (an alto and a baritone)--Porsche997SBS 00:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabbit Ad music (Canada) 

message: This isnt a link to cheap viagra * How to build a 16V G60 Golf Legend  Its a site with additional relevant information on a car/engine that info on is quite sparse.Mastershake phd 06:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spam?

message: The main text said:
: the Golf pioneered the first widely successful front wheel drive hatchback.
Really?. And what about the Renault 4, Renault 5, Renault 16 and Fiat 127?.Randroide 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Forget about all of those, because the Mini predates all of 'em!  To be fair though, the Golf is vastly more successful than all of these FWD hatchbacks put together.  But even so, "widely successful" sounds too vague;  "one of the most successful FWD hatchbacks" sounds better.Andy Nguyen 22:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The Mini is not a hatchback. SteveGTI (talk) 10:16, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV issue 

message: a number of words are uncapitalized and it needs a general cleanup... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.87.85.99 (talk) 07:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup in R32 section 

message: Maybe someone can add some information on the upcoming Golf/Rabbit R36... it comes with the 3.6 liter engine from the passat!
:This has yet to be officially confirmed. As Wikipedia is not in the business of speculation, nothing should be added until an official announcement is made.--Analogue Kid 12:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that page should be started up "right now" because the R32 is already on sale, plus I've already seen one at a VW dealership in West Palm Beach, FL. I am willing to help you start the web page if you're up to it. Please respond to "my talk" on my user page- AClements3 (talk) 17:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  R36 

message: I just spotted this reversion  which takes it back six months , which had no edit summary, and undid over 400 edits. I suspect that this may have been the result of accidentally editing from an old article in the history, so to be safe, I have undone it. Notinasnaid 14:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends on where you are. In the USA, all GTIs and Golfs (Rabbits) are built in Wolfsburg. However, much of the world (particularly in Asia) is supplied by the South African plant.--Analogue Kid 12:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huge reversion 

message: This is a new performance oriented model from VW with a 1.4TSI engine, 17" alloys, and a sport suspension. Perhaps someone can update it? I'm still new to Wikipedia so don't know how to add a section.
:Here's how to add a section: Type ====Golf GT====, then start typing youre info. below it, but make sure to leave a space between the title and the article body. If you need some more help you can contact me on "my talk" on my user page- AClements3 (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golf GT 

message: i saw a picture of a new golf thats called W12 its the same Golf GTI  but has a W21 engien 650 hp....thats all i know maybe some one can bring more information about it.
:The W12 is currently a concept car, but it's actually functional model and VW are considering putting it into production - given enough support/hype. I think it deserves putting into the article. Unless there are any objections I'll locate some reliable sources soon --Sevengoods 09:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golf W12 

message: I once saw a picture of a US Mark I model with rectangular (probably sealed) headlights and a huge, ugly, protruding front bumper made from black plastics. I guessed at the time that this was according to some trade regulations, to make access to the US market more difficult for Volkswagen, but of course I could be wrong. Unfortunately, this design is not reflected in the article. Does anyone know about this? -- 790 13:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is actually a later Mk I model which was made in the Pennsylvania factory. Early Golf/Rabbits in the USA were identical to their German counterparts with round sealed beam headlights. The differences it had were minor, including a slightly different bumper and emissions controls. Indeed, US regulations for bumper strength are higher than they are in Europe. Additionally, from 1974-1982, cars sold in the USA had to have bumpers strong enough to withstand a 5 mph (8 km/h) impact with no damage. Ronald Reagan weakened the standard in the deregulation frenzy of the early 1980's. The current standard is the bumper must protect safety related equipment (headlights, etc.) in a 2.5 mph impact. Massive damage is totally allowable now, which is ridiculous, but oh well. The standards were not intended to make things more difficult for VW, all manufacturers had to meet the same standards. The only policy decision that affected VW was the chicken war, which put a 25% tax on imported trucks (i.e. the VW bus). This did end up making the Bus, the Vanagon, and the Eurovan a much more expensive proposition than it needed to be, which culled sales significantly.--Analogue Kid 14:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: well thank you! actually, I found a picture on the commons and will integrate it.  -- 790 08:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My understanding is that all US-made "Rabbits" had rectangular headlights but I could be wrong.  The photo used is of such an ugly junker that if no one minds I'll replace it with a picture of my Rabbit, which frankly is a much nicer example.Armona (talk) 03:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  early Mark I US version? 

message: I personally believe that the GTI deserves it's own page.
The GTI is NOT the same as the Golf. In fact, in the Americas, it's not sold as a Golf GTI. it's sold as a GTI. The GTI actually even has it's own fanbase.
:: It's the same damn car. Except with a different engine and body trimKar98 02:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be sold as a separate car, but who is really fooled? I think it should stay on this page. Functionally, it is still a Golf or Rabbit if you prefer with slightly different trim.--Analogue Kid 21:46, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not true. I'll use the MKV as an example. You can't get an MKV GTI with a 5 speed manual, yet you can't get an MKV rabbit with a 6 speed manual. Also, The MKV rabbit lacks a huge program that the GTI has called Launch Control. This SHOOTS the car forward by letting you rev to 3000 RPM and then engaging the clutch (Launch control is only available with a DSG transmission on an MKV GTI). The GTI is a totally different car. Guticb 02:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact you can get a MkV Golf with a 6 speed manual - at least in Germany/Europe. For petrol engines only the smallest 2 (1.4 L 59kW and 1.6L 75kW) are available with the five speed, the stronger engines have the 6 speed as a standard, and the 105kW 1.4L TSI is available with the DSG transmission.--BSI 14:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: A GTI page would be great.  Just look at the precedent we have Audi S4, Audi RS4, Honda Civic Si, and Honda Civic Type R.  We even have a EK9 Honda Civic Type R page but I think it should be mereged.  No reason not to have a GTI page lets do it. --Daniel J. Leivick 02:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. How do we start off though? We can't just copy and paste the current GTI sections into a new page..... Can we? Also, do we have to get it approved? Guticb 05:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Nope no need for approval.  A copy paste will work a brief lead paragraph would also be good as would some photos.  Let me know if you need any help. --Daniel J. Leivick 08:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The GTI has a life and history distinct from the lesser models, to me launch control and trans options are secondary.  I propose a page called Volkswagen Golf GTI not just GTI.  The GXP at this point has no history apart from the G6 and does not need a page especially seeing that it is only marginally different from it lesser siblings.  The GTI is considered a seperate model both in the US and elsewhere  In general I support a page split if there is a culture and history built around a top level model, I feel the the GTI is in the same vane as Nissan Skyline GTR. --Daniel J. Leivick 18:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with calling it Volkswagen Golf GTI though, is that in the US, and the majority of the world, actually, it is simply sold as a Volkswagen GTI, not a Golf GTI. Here in the US, if you tell someone you have a golf GTI, they'll think you're a moron. Guticb 07:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just GTI in the Majority of the world? Don't think so.
*Hong Kong
*United Kingdom
*Germany
*Middle East
*Sweden
Taiwan
Just to name a few...--Analogue Kid 16:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Lets just go ahead and create a new page as VW Golf GTI.Guticb 04:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GTI DESERVES IT'S OWN PAGE 

message: There's this confusing line in ¶3 of the History section:
The Audi technology in the Golf would regain for Volkswagen the engineering lead over rear drive cars that Ferdinand Porsche had bestowed on the original Beetle over its large conventional peers.
Can anybody please rewrite it in a less ambiguous form? I am not a Beetle owner or avid fan, and so I have no idea what this line is trying to say.
Also follows is a very abrupt statement:
The small Golf had to succeed in replacing the high volume Volkswagen sedan.
Perhaps we could try writing this into the rewritten sentence as aforementioned? Ariedartin JECJY Talk 07:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing line 

message: I have no idea why why user Jonas bognar felt the need to delete an entire topic, class it as a minor edit and provide no explanation as to why opposed the topic. Hence I've reinstated the topic.
From looking at his history, his past times include trolling articles and promoting the website "MyRide.com".  Sevengoods 19:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of W12 topic and spamming MyRide.com 

message: I was under the impression that the new 2008 models of City Golf and City Jetta were based on the Mk5 model, but after seeing this review, I noticed that these were Mk4-Mk5 ugly hybrids. See for yourself . We need more information IMO... Laurent 20:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of Mk5 Golf City topic 

message: OK, I split the article into five separate entries. What is now needed are, I guess, a few sentences on the single generations; I´ve prepared the sections by inserting a picture in each and will possibly add a survey of generations 1 through 5 in the near future. If anyone else is willing to do this, please feel free to go ahead. --328cia (talk) 11:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I like what you've done here.   Thanks for 'grasping the nettle'.   Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your kind words, Charles; although you can hardly call it a case of "in die Nesseln greifen", as the question of splitting up the whole thing has been around for two years without opposition. --328cia (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for splitting it up!  The old article was unwieldy and cumbersome.  Chaparral2J (talk) 10:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've changed the redirects from "Volkswagen Golf Mk N" -> "Volkswagen Golf" to "Volkswagen Golf Mk N" -> "Volkswagen Golf MkN" Chaparral2J (talk) 05:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  After the split 

message: I´ve given a source for 3-door vs. 5-door production for 1974 to 1987 that proves that the 3-door was the more popular body style then. Nowadays however, the 5-door is by far more popular, at least here in Germany; according to my local VW dealer, with the introduction of the Golf III 5-door models began to surpass the 3-doors, saleswise; currently he estimates the percentage of 3-doors to run around 7 to 8 % of all Golf sales. In the absence of written sources, though, it will be hard to determine which body style has been more successful over the whole time span of Golf production.
www.Mobile.de (a used car sale internet platform) lists the following number of cars:
Golf 1974-1992: 2,668 3d, 973 5d
Golf 1993-2008: 11,783 3d, 37,393 5d (excluding Variants)
Golf 2007/2008 only: 2,800 3d, 20,100 5d (excl. Variants)
--328cia (talk) 12:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  3-door more popular than 5-door? 

message: Is it really necessary to write ==Golf Mk1 (A1 17) (1974-present)== in the section heading (and the equivalent for the other generations)? It is a very "technical" heading; its ok if you are already familiar with the different codes, but if you are familiar you wont need to read them, and if you are not familiar it is a bit overwhelming. I would think it would be better to write ==Golf Mk1== and put the production years, manufacturer codes, etc in the paragraph below. That would also mean the section headings would more closely mirror the daughter articles which are linked to; the cars arent at Volkswagen Golf Mk1 (A1 17) (1974-present) after all. Just a thought. Songs of ts steiner (talk) 22:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it looks weird, especially with two things in brackets. its really a mess. You should change it. Welly bump fandango (talk) 21:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to improve the formatting of the headings, while keeping all the information. Letdorf (talk) 12:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section headings 

message: maybe for you exaggerated americans with your Dodges!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.56.42.238 (talk) 10:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compact/Small Car? 

message: says that the all-electric range of the Golf TwinDrive will be 50 kilometers.  Are there any other sources? GetLinkPrimitiveParams (talk) 00:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TwinDrive all-electric range 50km? 

message: Where is Mk1 Golf in this article?
--12345e (talk) 12:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: An anonymous user seems to have deleted it two weeks ago for some reason. I've restored it to the article now. David Arthur (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mk1??? 

message: Shouldn't it be a separate article on a distinctly separate model? NVO (talk) 10:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Volkswagen Golf Plus]]

message: "The VR6-engined version accelerated from 0–60 mph (0–97 km/h) in 7.1 seconds, posting a record 10.5 1/4-mile time at 90.5 mph."
I question the veracity of this information - a 10.5s quarter mile from a car doing 0-60 in 7.1 seconds is very, very unlikely.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.221.132 (talk) 06:38, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, a standard Corrado VR6 (which has the 2.9 engine) does a standing quarter in around 15.9s so there is no way that a 10.5 was set by a standard Golf VR6. SteveGTI (talk) 10:38, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  10.5 1/4 mile for Mk3 VR6 

message: Why is it a Mk 5 and not the current, most recent Mk 6? Will make newcomers think the current Golf is more dated than it actually is. Feudonym (talk) 22:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CARPIX, #5. The top infobox covers the entire span of Golf -- 1974-present -- and any Golf 1974-present is appropriate to illustrate it. IFCAR (talk) 23:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main photo 

message: Only the Mk4 has fuel economy data?  Very odd, since it's a major selling point in USA (esp. for the TDI) --198.144.209.83 (talk) 02:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuel economy 

message: Several sections of this article are wildly outdated, stemming from 2008 - especially the Golf IV section. Also, why do the production dates in the section titles correspond to US sales? The Golf IV was sold until 2003 in Europe (its home market), 2006 in the US, 2010 in Canada, 2008 in China, and is presumably still available in some Latin American countries. To me the title should read either 1997-2003 or 1997-current. 1997-2006 only makes sense to US readers.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 08:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs updating, Americentric

message: I removed the sentence "All variants proved instantly popular with the only notable technical flaw being the poor braking in RHD models, due to the master cylinder for the brakes being placed on the left for LHD cars, as Volkswagen never intended the Golf to be sold abroad."  Various reasons:
*Unsourced
*Popularity and only notable technical flaw unrelated
*The allegation that "Volkswagen never intended the Golf to be sold abroad" is obviously nonsense. See further down that the Golf was popular in the UK ever since its introduction in 1974.BsBsBs (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  MK1 RHD 

message: Hi all! A recent edit of mine in the "etimology" section was reverted even though it was properly sourced to VW document and the reference was dismissed as not serious. Could somebody else please look at it, as the source advocating alternate name explanation is an editorial opinion of the MSN. Furthermore, choice of name "Caddy" for a utility version of Golf is quite indicative, not to mention that no VW model since Golf introduction in 1974 was named after a wind for quite a while (Jetta).--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, forgot to add the ref, but here's an alternate from the VW.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

text: And the German language one with the exact phrasing, also from the VW.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So they used the slogan "Golf: The new national pastime" and named a variant "Caddy". That's your entire argument? I just added four more high quality sources, bringing the total to nine, which say the cars were (mostly at that time) named after winds, and that the Golf was named after the Gulf Stream. The New York Times says specifically in 1984 that VW told them the name comes from golfstrom. Popular Science, Motor Trend, Business Week, and others back this up. The standards of WP:Reliable sources have clearly been met.<P>If you want to cite an alternative view, you need to find an independent, authoritative sources that says explicitly, "The car was named after the game of golf, not the gulf stream." Otherwise you're inserting your own original research. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Search google books for "volkswagen golf gulf wind" and you will find dozens of reliable sources which support the explanation that the car is named after the wind --Biker Biker (talk) 16:44, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree there's no room for WP:OR, but I suppose Volkswagen AG corporate site is an independent and authoritative source that warrants amending the claim to something to the effect of: "At its introduction, the car was marketed as the new national pastime hinting at the sport of golf". I'm aware there's google books, I'm just pointing at what the manufacturer says.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And what you are doing is interpreting the source by trying to find meaning in something that is not explicitly stated. A single tag line from an advertising campaign reproduced on VW's website is not an independent and authoritative source. --Biker Biker (talk) 16:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: While the car was obviously named after the Gulf Stream, Volkswagen did sometimes playfully refer to the game of Golf (with the Mk1 GTi gearknob, for instance). There is nothing more to it.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 16:59, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably a source can be found that supports the idea that they were using a games theme for their alternative names, like Caddy and Polo, that they used in the US. And the golf ball knob. Business Week touches on it. But the slogan alone is not nearly enough. Keep searching and a decent source for it will probably turn up. If not, then leave it out and allow readers to speculate on their own. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Polo, Derby and Cadddy were there in Europe too. I'll try to find a source for that, there are bound to be some, folks at the VW museum were quite adamant about the sports reference...--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:08, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etimology 

message: Most WP automobile articles include dimensions, but this article is noticeably deficient on numbers.  Does anyone have access to dimensions, esp length and width? Santamoly (talk) 05:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dimensions 

message: Yeah, i was wondering if a more expansive section, with a picture, was needed for the MK7.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.131.50 (talk) 13:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not yet - see WP:CRYSTAL: Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. If and when definitive official information is released by VW, then we can start adding more reliably-sourced details.  Regards, Letdorf (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the article need more info on the MK? 

message: This article seems to use headings based on production years as opposed to model years which is inconsistent with other car pages on wikipedia. What are everyone's thoughts on changing this? 108.172.114.141 (talk) 20:02, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the Mark 5 and Mark 6 sections are particularly bad. In addition the Mark 6 section includes a large amount of extraneous mark 5 information, further adding to confusion about the model years of design changes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:A80:5424:76D4:35FF:FE09:A421 (talk) 20:31, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  model year vs production year 

message: The (current) production version of the e-Golf is basically a Mk7 with an electric motor instead of the internal combustion engine and a battery fitted where the gas tank and exhaust system would go.  Same body, (mostly) same standard and optional equipment, etc.  Perhaps that section should be moved to the Volkswagen Golf Mk7 article until the e-Golf becomes sufficiently notable to rate its own?  DES (talk) 22:46, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  e-Golf 

message: The 4th generation Golf is described as being "rated at 384 kW (515 bhp)"!  Seems like a bit over the top for an econobox, wouldn't you think? Are there any Golf experts who can confirm this prodigious output? Santamoly (talk) 08:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:   rated at 384 kW (515 bhp) 

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message: As I heard from Motorpasion Mexico, the upcoming eighth generation will not enter the North American (USA and Canada) nor Mexican markets, only in Europe, but R-Line and GTI versions for North America and Mexico will. Also, the factory where the Golf is produced in Mexico will be occupied by the also-upcoming Tarek. Reference here. 201.145.7.116 (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upcoming eighth generation not going to enter the North American nor Mexican markets 

message: The Volkswagen emissions scandal was not just the Golf but it affected the Jetta the Passat the Touareg and many other models why is the a whole section when other articles do not mention it or only briefly mention it besides the separate article on the scandal  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.180.90 (talk) 15:13, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we really need a section on Volkswagen emissions scandal 

message: It seems strange that no one has noted how the Mk6 has similar creases in the C-columns and sides, very similar to the setup on the Mk3. The headlights also seem to be like a modern rendition of a Mk3 sketch. Was the Mk6 supposed to be styled as an Mk3 tribute? By comparison, the Mk 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7 are more slab-sided. 78.90.63.158 (talk) 08:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mk6 aping the Mk3 styling? 

message: I've restored the "distinguish" hatnote for the Volkswagen Gol which was removed without explanation here by .
There's no obvious reason for this; it's a very similarly named car, pretty much what the template was intended for.
Perhaps they'd like to explain their reasoning? Thanks. Ubcule (talk) 00:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I second your restoration - these hatnotes are often applied indiscriminately and for no reason, but this is the perfect case of when to use it.  Mr.choppers | ✎  00:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It was an accident on my part. Someone else put an auto-redirect onto the page for the Golf to automatically redirect you to the Gol, despite there being a page for it. I must've fat-fingered it. My bad! V92 (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, no problem then. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "distinguish" hatnote 

message: The Golf GTI it's a icon of the automotive, it is the first hot hatchback car and was produced from 50 years. I propose, like BMW M3, Civic Type R or Renault Mégane RS to division and separate the article to create new all in one for the GTI. 5.91.55.48 (talk) 17:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut the Golf GTI