Talk:Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands

message: Gentlemen, if he were to select the name Alexander whenever he becomes King, would not his reignal name be merely Alexander, rather Alexander I? His mother, for instance, does not reign under the name Beatrix I (I am, of course, not attempting to be impolite to other editors.)--Anglius 19:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, indeed.  But I don't think he has announced yet which name he will use after succeeding his mother.  Unless anyone can provide a reference, I will remove it from the article. Baszoetekouw 10:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He did. I've added a reference. Eugene van der Pijll 12:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, he will probably reign as Willem(William) IV. He also noted that in an interview with Paul Witteman. Daimanta (talk) 15:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alexander

message: Not sure if this belongs in the article (or is even relavent) but saw this article in today's newspaper:
:"Dutch royals snap at media"
The Prince and Princess are in New Zealand as part of a state visit and was asked by a reporter if they were enjoying their visit to New Zealand, to which the Prince responded "It's none of your business, it's private". It should be noted though that the visit to Queenstown is not part of the NZ taxpayer founded trip. Someone more involved with the article can make a judgement as to whether this belongs in the article. I don't know enough about the Dutch royal family to know if this is out of character or not. Evil Monkey - Hello 20:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Zealand visit

message: On the picture in this article (and other pictures) the titleperson is darkhaired (so called "darkblond"). On most other press-pictures however, the titleperson is (sometimes very) lightblond (as good as whiteblond). In case insiders can confirm, that the titleperson often or mostly appears with bleached hair, this might be a relevant fact, to be mentioned in the text.      James Blond 04:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By now this isn't a question any more. The answer is confirmative. Still a question however is wether apart from his spouse, who is as good as always bleached,  also the two oldest descendants are  bleached already, which  might lead to the impression, that this is a hereditive characteristic. James Blond 04:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dark or light?

message: How can somebody be Prince of Orange, when Orange isn't a princedom any more, for a long time, but simply a town in France? That guy is Prince of the Netherlands and nothing but that.  James Blond 16:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not uncommon for a title of nobility to survive the demise of the political entity to which it was tied. The title 'Prince of Orange' is an excellent example. It could be argued that most noble titles function this way. You won`t find a Duke of Norfolk that actually rules Norfolk, or anything else. --Isolani 18:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After all, the House of Wittelsbach (past monarchs of Bavaria) still claims the title of King of Jerusalem, if I remember right.  Nyttend 04:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be "not uncommon", but that doesn't take away, that it is unrealistic and even nonsensical. If Cassius Clay would still call himself World boxingchampion, than people would ask themselves, what went wrong with him. He's "former W-champion", even if his mother would still call him W-champion. It wouldn't be accepted, when somebody, would  call him "W-champion" in the Wikipedia-article, because it simply is not true. James Blond 16:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure it's true. He is recognized by the Dutch government (and therefore, I guess, by any other government) as Prince of Orange. You don't see to grasp the concept of titles of nobility. They do not usually imply a claim on a territory. Känsterle 09:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even more, Prince Willem-Alexander does not simply claim the title, he's legally allowed to use the title "Prince of Orange", this according to the Treaty of Utrecht and the Treaty of Partage I believe. Demophon 19:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Now that's just nonsense. Känsterle (talk) 16:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, it is!!!I can tell you that as a citizen of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Orange has indeed become the national colour of the Netherlands, because the royal family is of the House of Orange-Nassau. The title Prince of Orange (in Dutch "Prins van Oranje") did came from the former Principality of Orange (just "Oranje" or "Prinsdom Oranje" in Dutch) which had the city of Orange as its capital. The Principality of Orange was formed in 1163 when Emperor Frederick I granted the former County of Orange full independence within the Holy Roman Empire. The principality was part of scattered holdings of the Orange-Nassau house since William I "the Silent" inherited the title of Prince of Orange in 1544, until it was finally ceded to France in 1713 under the Treaty of Utrecht. Following the French Revolution of 1789, Orange was absorbed into the French département of Drôme, then Bouches-du-Rhône, then finally Vaucluse. In 1815, the Congress of Vienna took care of a French sensitivity by stipulating that the (then new) kingdom of the Netherlands would be ruled by the House of Oranje-Nassau - "Oranje," not "Orange" as was custom until then. The English language, however, continues to use the out-dated term of Orange-Nassau. Nowadays, both Georg Friedrich of Prussia and Dutch crown prince Willem-Alexander carry the title "Prince of Orange", Willem-Alexander in the official form of Prins van Oranje. So in short the name (not the surname of the prince but on of his titles) Orange/Oranje came from the former Principality of Orange! Not just the colour, because that would indeed be nonsense! The principality is gone, but the title remains. Peter Maas\talk 21:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prince of Orange?

message: To make sure he flies enough miles a year, so that he can hold his license to fly, he also regularly flies the Dutch Royal Airplane when he and his family travel abroad.
Pilot's licenses are generally regulated in terms of flight hours, not miles. --70.131.61.137 (talk) 18:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I believe this is incorrect. 

message: There should be some info about the controversy about his investments in Mozambique. Parafernalia (talk) 10:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one would also love to see a mention of the Chingada incident because I think it's hilarious, but I fear it's probably not important enough to merit a mention in the article ;-) Skysmurf (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozambique 

message: The article displays a "Royal Monogram" image. Source is missing on the text and the image. If that's actually a "Royal Monogram", how can the copyright of the image be CC/GFDL? Maybe someone just made this whole thing up. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 01:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The image was added to the article on 17 January 2011 by user Fry1989 with this edit, and the image was added on 15 January 2011‎ to Commons by . I think that user just created something with an image manipulation program. The "Royal Monogram" looks unprofessional, that's why I got suspicious and started looking into this. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 01:19, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm just going to remove the monogram, and point to this section in the edit summary. I'm the only person who appears to care about this, so I'm just going to WP:BB. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 12:16, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Monogram 

message: Shouldn't there be a picture of the new King being coronated? As in, him wearing the Crown of the Netherlands, if one exists. --99.157.108.186 (talk) 20:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Crown was present at the ceremony, but he never wore it. The Netherlands have investitures, not coronations. Also, the verb is "crowned". СЛУЖБА (talk) 21:34, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

text: The Crown of the Netherlands is never worn, so there won't be a photo of him wearing it. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 21:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coronation 

message: How long until we move this to Willem–Alexander of the Netherlands?  It's not easily typeable, and it's not the most common name, but so what?  Nyttend (talk) 12:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh please, no. I've often thought our usage of endashes was ridiculous, and there's no point using them in article titles when no-one can easily type them. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endash 

message: The article states that he is "Protestant."  Can't we narrow it down a bit?  The state religion of the Netherlands is the "Dutch Reformed Church."  Is Willem not a member of that church?John Paul Parks (talk) 17:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's narrowed down alright - the "Protestant" in the infobox (which you probably refer to) links to Protestant Church in the Netherlands. Willem-Alexander was baptised as a member of the Dutch Reformed Church (see the Early life section), which subsequently merged into the aforementioned church. BTW, the Netherlands does not have a state religion. Niels? en | nl 22:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Religious Belief

message: Does he have a royal motto? Or is this not used in the Netherlands? --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 15:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See the full title at Style_of_the_Dutch_sovereign: Bij de Gratie Gods, Koning der Nederlanden, Prins van Oranje-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg, Markies van Veere en Vlissingen, Graaf van Katzenellnbogen, Vianden, Diez, Spiegelberg, Buren, Leerdam en Culemborg, Burggraaf van Antwerpen, Baron van Breda, Diest, Beilstein, de stad Grave, het Land van Cuyk, IJsselstein, Cranendonck, Eindhoven, Liesveld, Herstal, Waasten, Arlay en Nozeroy, Erf- en Vrijheer van Ameland, Heer van Borculo, Bredevoort, Lichtenvoorde, Het Loo, Geertruidenberg, Klundert, Zevenbergen, Hooge en Lage Zwaluwe, Naaldwijk, Polanen, Sint-Maartensdijk, Soest, Baarn, Ter Eem, Willemstad, Steenbergen, Montfort, St. Vith, Bütgenbach, Niervaart, Daasburg, Turnhout en Besançon 
212.72.34.175 (talk) 16:28, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Motto

message: You can now vote on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Investiture of Willem-Alexander. – Editør (talk) 13:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  FPC Investiture of Willem-Alexander 

message: Since Willem-Alexander ended up not using the William IV ordinal, would it make sense to have William IV of the Netherlands redirect to William IV, Prince of Orange rather than to here? It's not strictly correct, of course, but it seems much more likely that someone typing that into the search box would be looking for that William IV rather than Willem-Alexander, who virtually nobody associates with the name. --Jfruh (talk) 10:20, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: @Jfruh Yes. --YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 22:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be somewhat of a misnomer. William IV the Stadtholder wasn't a monarch of the Netherlands. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 07:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also a misnomer to refer to Willem-Alexander as William IV, though. This is just a redirect, not an official article name -- the purpose is to redirect people to the article they're probably thinking of, not to be correct. For instance, Elizabeth II of England redirects to the current British monarch, even though the title "queen of England" no longer exists and hasn't for centuries. --Jfruh (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  William IV of the Netherlands redirect 

message: source: http://www.dichtbij.nl/groot-leiden/regionaal-nieuws/artikel/2614224/prins-willemalexander-rijdt-na-feestje-leidse-sloot-in.aspx
W.A. drove his Ford Sierra Cosworth with high speed into a canal near Leiden where he studied at the time, 1988.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.95.192.16 (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  car accident while driving drunk as student 

message: In the section ‘Ancestry’ it is stated that King Willem-Alexander is a descendant of King George III of Great Britain. Now, can anyone provide the exact line of descent, please? Because I can’t find any, and I’ve been researching all possible lines of descent from the Electress Sophia of Hanover (George I’s mother) to Queen Beatrix for some time. So I think this supposed descent is spurious. (He is descended from George II, as he’s a descendant of a sister of George III, granddaughter of George II, as well as of a daughter of George II.) Mithrennaith (talk) 02:21, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Turns out you're exactly right. The descent from Princess Augusta of Great Britain is the one that matters for the succession. But she's a sister of George III and not his daughter. Since I put this text in some articles I will correct this and Thank you for finding this out!Gerard von Hebel (talk) 16:24, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descent from George III? 

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