Talk:Beef Stroganoff

message: The article says that the dish was inevnted in the 1890s by a chef working for Count Stroganov, but Stroganov's wikipedia page says he died in 1817. Could it have been a different Count Stroganov that the inventor was working for? --AsaRoast 10:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of 'invention' 

message: Is the recipe really appropriate?  Wouldn't it be better suited to Wikibooks Cookbook?  I think the article has other redeeming features, so I don't want to tag it with , but something should be done. LWizard @ 03:12, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appropriateness of recipe 

message: The Food Timeline cites a few articles that indicate that the story about Count Stroganov's cook may not be true.  As someone else pointed out here, Stroganov died in 1817.  These quotations say that the recipe appeared first in a cookbook in 1871.  Any ideas on how to proceed? JordeeBec 23:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Xotl, thanks for your interest in the Beef Stroganoff article. There are a few difficulties in this account.  First of all, I'm not quite sure what pickled meat and starving peasants have to do with Beef Stroganoff.  Secondly, the title Count Stroganoff applied to many different individuals in the 18th and 19th centuries, so it doesn't help in narrowing down the time.  For that matter, the dish wasn't necessarily named for a Count Stroganoff (there were other members of the family).  In any event, that is all neither here nor there, because Wikipedia policy requires that we find reliable sources and not include our own original research in articles.  If you can find solid references to the history of the dish (and note that cookbooks are generally not reliable as sources...), please contribute to the article. --Macrakis 13:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folk tale? 

message: Not to be part of the article page, but I have just done the Stroganov as in the Molokhovet cookbook. I will say that following the recipe is not possible [call for  12-15 whole allspice, and then for the allspice to be sprinkled over the beef for a marination - this is not reasonable]. But it can be done, taking the printed material as a guide - and maybe the problems are with the translation to English, I used the Joyce Tomre book. But in any case, it was a delicious and very good looking meal. --Dumarest (talk) 23:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The actual dish

message: I tried to check the reference to the book by Molokhovets. I was not able to find govyadina po-stroganovski or any other similar recipe in the 1st edition (1861). Here is a Russian source: http://bookzz.org/book/367961/e1a4ab for this edition.  Molokhovets worked on this book continuously for many decades. She included more and more recipes with each edition. I also found a German translation published in 1877: http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/8237/1/ . Also there I didn't find anything like this dish. In the 1901 edition, the recipe is really available. Here is the respective section (in Russian): http://www.molohovetc.ru/otdel_vii/798_govjadina_po-stroganovski_s_gorchitseju/ . It is thus unclear, when the recipe was published for the first time. Therefore it is also not clear, whether it was really published before the competition of 1890. --Off-shell (talk) 21:08, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Very interesting! I wonder if you can narrow down the date of the first edition in which Molokhovets included it.... --Macrakis (talk) 21:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's the point. I didn't find further editions. If anyone has access to some intermediate editions, that would be great. --Off-shell (talk) 22:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  The issue is resolved finally. 1st recipe was published in the 1871 edition of Molokhovets. I updated the article. --Off-shell (talk) 06:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History - the book by Molokhovets 

message: At the care home where I live, I have eaten a dish called mushroom stroganoff. This sounds like a vegetarian version of the dish. Vorbee (talk) 20:24, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Mushroom stroganoff

message: Just a suggestion. But the current article's picture more looks like dry roast chicken on rice. It's supposed to look both much more saucy and ideally with lots of mushrooms. Like this.  I think the page could use a far better photo than the one it currently has, as I am not even that certain that the picture is of Stroganoff and doesn't do the article justice.49.195.54.48 (talk) 07:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The photo 

message: Add link to "korv Stroganoff", remove the weird "sv" link Arc2 wiki (talk) 12:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Linked "korv Stroganoff" as MOS:INTERLINK, the "sv" will remains as "[sv]" given that the article doesn't exists here on English Wikipedia — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2023