Talk:Shaddam IV

message: "Legends of Dune" refers to the novels about the Butlerian Jihad.  "Prelude to Dune" is the correct title of the series of novels that lead directly up to Dune.  I'm changing the article to reflect that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.238.170.154 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 2 December 2006
:Oops, I think that mistake was mine, I must've been drunk that day. Thanks for the fix!  TAnthony 22:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion about prequel series 

message: I've removed the following new addition to the article, as it's original research (and out of place in the article, in my opinion).  But in case anyone wants to salvage something to re-introduce into the article (with sources) ... TAnthony 15:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: In adaptations

message: Do they all need to be linked, if the links just redirect to the House Corrino page? Just wondering. --SandChigger 05:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shaddam's daughters? 

message: In his latest blog on MySpace, Kevin is claiming that Shaddam is referred to as "still alive and performing exercises with his Sardaukar in MESSIAH." Can anyone provide a quote of a passage that corroborates this statement? --SandChigger (talk) 08:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shaddam in ''Messiah''? 

message: I believe these articles should be renamed so that the house comes last, rather than the ordinal. For example, the current monarch of the UK (though this style is rarely, if ever, used) is "Elizabeth II Windsor", not "Elizabeth Windsor II". Hence, this article, and the text within it and about it, should reflect "Shaddam IV Corrino", and not "Shaddam Corrino IV". Frank Herbert himself never referred to this person as "Shaddam Corrino IV", but typically "Shaddam IV", as the name of House Corrino did not figure significantly into the original Dune saga. If Brian Herbert or Kevin Anderson do use "Shaddam Corrino IV", I submit it is due to incompetence. --70.131.247.129 (talk) 23:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style revision. 

message: The section on Shaddam IV in Dune currently reads:
Making clear his ability and willingness to completely destroy all spice production should his terms not be met, Paul demands that Shaddam step down from the Imperial throne and install Paul in his place, with Irulan as Paul's consort. Shaddam has no choice but to concede, as an end to the spice supply would paralyze civilization across the entire universe. He is effectively exiled to his ancestral planet of Salusa Secundus, now a wasteland, prison planet, and training ground for the Sardaukar.
This isn’t true. When Paul is negotiating with the Emperor he never demand that Shaddam IV step down or that he himself replaces him. He does demand his CHOAM directorship and banishes him to Salusa Secundus, but the most Paul says as to the succession is that he will wed Irulan and the way will be ‘opened for an Atreides to sit on the throne’. He also says that Shaddam will have a throne on Salusa Secundus, and negotiates ennoblement for Atreides retainers, something he could grant them himself if he was about to take the throne. Paul is Emperor by the time of Dune Mesiah, yes, but he doesn’t force Shaddam IV to step down in Dune. 1stViscountessNivlac (talk) 04:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree insofar as Irulan shouldn't be referred to as a consort when she is Paul's wife 73.118.170.226 (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement by Paul