Talk:Kurdish Hezbollah

message: I deleted the state that the turkish Hizbollah are 'non-violent for 10 years', because the source of that statement was not readible. Besides that, they still do violent actions against PKK and HDP. It's even said that they fought with the Islamic State. Only Turkish Government names them as non-violent, no matter what they do, because this is mostly a turkish influenced violent group.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:89:2F09:3E00:C180:54E1:1A87:AC0E (talk) 19:51, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Stated non-violence

message: What is up with this pages name? Is (turkish) included to signify that this group is active in Turkey? If so the brackets should come after the name.--nixie 00:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: There is another Hizbullah operating in the Kurdish areas of the Turkish Republic. Are there two articles on the same group? If not some one with the knowledge should clarify the relations between the two groups.
Bertilvidet 10:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hizbullah's within Turkey

message: The article states "Kurdish Hizballah or Turkish Hizballah has no official organic ties with either the Lebanon-based Islamist group also named Hizballah or its offshoots throughout the Middle East. Notwithstanding a few similarities in terms of ideology, methods and goals, they are essentially very distinct terrorist groups."
and then goes on with a whole load of stuf about Lebanese Hezbollah.
Surely if the first statement is true the rest is irrelevant? AndrewRT 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lebanon 

message: which of these sources designates Turkey anti-semitic terrorist state. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.196.250.222 (talk) 20:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: sources

message: Sorry, but I suppose that the article needs a thorough rewrite. For a start I would recommend to read the backgrounder of Human Rights Watch What is Turkey's Hizbullah? published on 16 January 2000. Statements that need correction include:
:The group... is believed and documented by several human rights activists that the group was actually founded by Veli Küçük of the Turkish Gendarmerie to target the PKK and its sympathizers.
::The quote does not confirm this allegation. Veli Kücük is being accused of having founded JITEM
:...though recently they have targeted both the PKK and the Turkish government
::The quoted text talks about backfire, which is more likely to mean ran out of control. The quote is from 2003 so that recently has no meaning in 2009. In addition, Hezbollah targeted mainly civilians sympathetic to the course of the PKK.
::The attacks in Istanbul in November 2003 were addressed to Al-Qaeda, not Hezbollah (see 2003 Istanbul bombings for more details
:... conducting low-level bombings against liquor stores, bordellos, and other establishments that the organization considered "anti-Islamic."
::No quote given for this assumption that is not correct, either. To the end of their violent actions Hezbollah targeted people drinking alcohol or women wearing mini shirts etc. (quoted according to a verdict in one of the trials; see http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/03/23/guncel/gun02.html)
This is just the beginning of a longer list for a cleanup. My question: does anyone first want to discuss these items or should I go ahead with the rewrite? Sc.helm (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  misleading statements and quotes 

message: its turkish hizbollah who founded by turkish statae to fight agaisnt pkk  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.182.43.132 (talk) 20:09, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  there a no kurdish hizbollah 

message: The name in Turkish and Kurdish is Hizbullah, never Hezbollah neither other similar versions. Unless this is very specifically a (mistaken) English standard (and can be sourced) there is absolutely no reason to change the I for E. Turkish and Kurdish are both written with Latin alphabet, so no transcription alternatives are allowed, as there is no transcription (as opposed to the case of Lebanese Hiz/Hez/bu/bo/llah). If nobody objects with good reasons, I'll do the changes.Ilyacadiz (talk) 08:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Hizbullah, not Hizbollah

message: The official name of the organisation is Hizbullah. It mentioned it in its manifesti that it released in 2012: http://www.dogruhaber.com.tr/haber/21776-hizbullah-cemaatinin-manifestosu-yayinlandi/
Hizbullah's members are mostly Kurds and it operates mostly in Kurdish areas so to call it Turkish Hizbullah is misleading, the name should be changed to "Kurdish Hizbullah" or "Hizbullah in Turkey"
Many Turkish and Kurdish sources mentioned that Hzbullah is a majority Kurdish organisation with influence in mostly Kurdish populated areas: Source 1: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/tr/originals/2015/06/turkey-syria-kurds-turkish-hezbollah-reconcile-isis-pkk.html
Source 2: http://www.gazetevatan.com/rusen-cakir-425032-yazar-yazisi-hizbullah-tan-33-yil-gecikmeli-manifesto/
And Hizbullah itself says that it want to be part of the solution for the Kurdish issue seeing itself as important part of the Kurdish side and dont accepts the PKK as representatives of the Kurdish people: Source 1: https://huseynisevda.biz/viewpage.php?page_id=87
Source 2: http://www.dogruhaber.com.tr/haber/20218-hizbullah-cemaatinden-kurd-meselesi-hasbihali/
The founders Hüseyin Velioğlu and İsa Altsoy and the current leader Edip Gümüs are both Kurds. And Oxford Islamic Studies calls it "Kurdish Hizbullah": http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/article/opr/t236/e0317
So Hizbullahs members are mostly Kurds, the organisation sees itself as representative of Kurdish people and Turkish sources also mention that Hizbullah is mostly active in Kurdish areas, so the Name should be changed.--Alan Genco (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name  

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