Talk:Slam dunk

message: Allen Iverson is not noted for his slam dunk ability, he's slam dunked like maybe four times in his entire career, i've deleted his name.
Also, I've heard that someone recently achieved a 720 slam dunk, i will look for more info as to the validity of this, this could be useful for the Trivia section.  Theonejanitor 9:38 4 August 2006
Slam Dunk is the code name for the plot by the U.S. military to take over the Presidency in the 1994 major motion picture "The Enemy Within". Since George Tenet can be presumed to have familiarity with this prominent story, his use of the term is ambiguous at best.Rgdboer 06:28, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Allen Iverson

message: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/28/tenet.weaponsremark.ap/index.html
What?  Jedre 07:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely agree. It is beyond obvious that this was thrown in for purely political reasons.  Are we to believe there is no better example than one that is so blatantly biased and political?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.141.152.197 (talk) 13:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  tennet regrets slam dunk comment 

message: I think the second section ("Dunks in the NBA") has a somewhat odd tone and perhaps even the section itself should be deleted - or rewritten to refect the history of dunks in the NBA.  Thoughts? [author1]
Agreed.  "no doubt" used twice in same sentence, which is colloquial and also not cited.  Players jump higher is not cited (early players couldn't jump high?).  Best athletes in the world is unfounded (olympics?).  "Though" is capitalized in the middle of a sentence.  The passage: "there is some criticism from basketball fundamentalist who say it has damaged the game by corrupting young players into a score first, showboat mindset." contains a singular where there should be a plural and is completly anecdotal.
Paragraph deleted. Jedre 07:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tone tag 

message: It's offensive goal tending deal with it. Dunking has ruined basketball.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:FFC0:2E:4E5:3FFB:4AFF:3435 (talk) 02:50, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It does appear that it was considered offensive basket interference: see — Myasuda (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Offensive Goaltending 

message: To BigBoyRubio,
Why did you remove Terence Stansbury from the list?  He is listed in the NBA website as a dunker of note in the 80's.  He is one of a few dunkers who ever scored perfect-50's in the Slam Dunk competition.  He was just unfortunate to dunk at an era where Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, Spud Webb and Michael Jordan reigned supreme. Just because he does not have a wikipedia article does not mean he has to be excluded from the list.
Ykentwegetalong 18:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Dunkers 

message: Anyone have any insight on Women dunkers?  WNBA or NCAA highlight links to include?  They dunk, too.  Jedre 07:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only player to dunk in a WNBA game as of yet is Lisa Leslie. I don't know about NCAA, however, but due to the fact the the NCAA is a lot older than the WNBA, there have probably been a couple of woman dunkers there as well. 71.96.179.40 20:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women Dunkers? 

message: Is that even actually a dunk?  It looks like the ball is about to come off of his fingers. Statalyzer (talk) 18:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture at the beginning of the article 

message: I replaced the image, in the previous picture it was difficult to see the actual dunk. I feel that the new image does a better job illustration it. Before & After --$user log (talk) 22:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: July 2008

message: I cut out the following section because it is a highly subjective listing in violation of WP:NOR. I replaced it with the more verifiable :Category:NBA Slam Dunk Contest champions. Onomatopoeia 14:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut out section: "Notable NBA dunkers"

message: There should be information on the first dunk, I can not find reliable information, but I find that George Mikan was the first in a professional game.
Dysalot 21:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First Dunk

message: I suggest that the content of this page belongs here, if anywhere. Any thoughts? Feeeshboy 04:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your contribution and think it definitely should be mentioned, but I think your point of view is not the sole factor to be considered. The leaner is a very short article, with only a blog for a source, and currently none of its pictures have properly confirmed copyright status (thus are scheduled for deletion). I suggested this merge in order to save some of the valuable content, because the article itself may meet qualifications for deletion. Feeeshboy 04:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I appreciate what you're trying to do, Feeesyboy, however I think that you're missing the point. As part of the basketball community, I find it appalling that there is no reference to this dunk in all of Wikipedia. It's my understanding that Wikipedia is a community, and simply because I may not be able to provide all of the things that you're referring to right away that doesn't mean that somebody else won't be able to.. In addition, I used what I could as a source for now with the intention of finding more as time goes on. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will the article on 'The Leaner' be. Thank you for fighting on Wikipedia's behalf, Feeeshboy, but let's not create a crusade where none is needed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Natster237 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay... does anyone who's NOT a sock puppet have an opinion on this? Feeeshboy 00:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the merge . . . but there's not much content to begin with, the source article is poorly written, and someone has already inserted a clumsy sentence regarding it into the current Slam dunk article.  Myasuda 02:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  sock puppet??? it's obvious that you're a huge loser but that's beside the point. you claim to actually care about this site but you run around insulting people? don't you understand that that's not in the spirit of collaboration?
Alright guys, my intention wasn't to start a verbal war over an article about a famous dunk lol. I hope the article gets time to grow, either by my hand or somebody elses. It appears, however, that my inability to watch the posts like a hawk all the time might simply make that wish impossible to fulfill. BTW, I didn't write the previous post supporting keeping the leaner...what would  doing something like that accomplish? I might be signing off from Wikipedia for awhile as I don't have the time to constantly follow up on issues like this, but best of luck with your cause, Feeeshyboy. Natster237 06:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merge of content from [[The leaner]]

message: This is my understanding, of the examples.
Your examples from above:
*Acid already contains a hatnote linking to both Lysergic acid diethylamide as well as to Acid (disambiguation). "Acid" is a common short-form title for many things.
:Like weed and weed, or head and head, or rocket and rocket, these kind of examples are abbreviations of a full name, or barely-related nicknames, or plain homonyms. They are only accidentally, or distantly, related topics. Hence, they only require disambiguation.
*Revolving door could definitely be expanded to include information on the political phrase. E.g. how the non-utilitarian amusement that results from making a 180° turn (or a "full-rotation") in these rotating doors, has given rise to its use as an analogous phrase. Currently, that article just contains a "See also" link, to Revolving door (politics), but that could easily become a full sentence, or more. (If citations are available)
My examples from before: 
*Slam dunk#Use as a phrase exists for the same reason that:
**Sliced bread#The greatest thing since sliced bread contains that subsection on the phrase.
**Rocket scientist#Popular culture contains that subsection on the phrase.
**Albert Einstein's lead contains the sentence: "His great intelligence and originality has made the word "Einstein" synonymous with genius."
:It is factual, and directly-related material. If any of those sections were to grow larger (ie. if we find many more citable facts about those aspects), then those sections could be split off into  articles, with WP:Summary sections left behind, in exactly the same way that Chemistry (etymology) was split off from Chemistry, and that Godwin's Law was split off from Mike Godwin. If those subarticles were too small, they'd be merged back into their parent articles. That is how merging and splitting work here.
:And no, those sections cannot just be moved to Wiktionary, because Wiktionary is a standalone project, as are we. (Each of our articles should also be able to standalone, hence we can't just move the entire explanation from here to the list of sports idioms). These pieces of factual information belong in an encyclopedia article, whether it is printed out, or on a dvdr, or online.  -- Quiddity (talk) 00:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The greatest thing since sliced bread used to state that this was originally an advertising slogan, but this claim has been removed from the article. Unless a connection to bread can be made I'm an not entirely sure it should remain in the article any more. The others Einstein, rocket science are simple one sentence mentions. I don't have any problem with mentioning other articles and topics, that's entirely fine; it's a question of what the article should fully cover, i.e. what is on, or off topic. If we allow off-topic material in Wikipedia articles then this is no longer an encyclopedia it becomes essays. You can cover multiple topics in essays. Articles are not essays.- Wolfkeeper 04:47, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a total of three sentences in this section. It takes one sentence to get in a "mention," which you say you would support, so you're arguing over two sentences, one of which is "The phrase is one of many Sports idioms." The other sentence references a single, iconic use of the phrase, for which neither Rocket scientist nor Einstein has an analogue, and it helps to clarify the phrase's use. This is not the start of some slippery slope toward Wikipedia being taken over by essays. It's relevant and purposeful content, and it's concise. Feeeshboy (talk) 05:30, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At sliced bread, there are 2 sentences in the lead, and 1 sentence in the History section, stating the phrase's relation to the advertising slogan. -- Quiddity (talk) 04:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples

message: The statement that "flambledamble" is slang for "slam dunk" sounded ridiculous enough to Google.  There are 24 results as of 1/8/2010, ALL of which place it in the context of this article.  Is this a test to see exactly how gullible Wikipedia readers are?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.196.217 (talk) 17:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Flambledamble"? 

message: "Carter would later go on to comment that he copied these dunks from an article in Slam magazine featuring Jameel Pugh"
This is unsourced. I can't find this anywhere. It should be removed if a proper source is not found, i believe.Idonthavetimeforthiscarp 20:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince Carter 

message: I would like to revamp the slam dunk page as much of the content appears cluttered, and a sizeable portion of the language is informal. 
A new module entitled Dunk Types has been already added to provide explanations and examples of the different dunks. 
The primary issue with the aforementioned addition will be the bland descriptions of dunks. Perhaps a thumbnail of each could appear to provide visual aid. 
The Notable Dunks section deserves to be reorganized into subsections. Perhaps by time period or significant element of the dunks (e.g. 'Broken Backboards', or 'In-Game Dunks'). Additionally, some of the content would be removed and would appear in the new section entitled Dunk Types.
JustinMBarber (talk) 02:13, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like a reasonable set of suggestions.  It might be best to make these changes be made in distinct stages, to allow for pertinent feedback / consensus on the restructuring. — Myasuda (talk) 02:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I will complete the 'Dunk Types' module, which will result in the removal of some duplicate information from the 'Notable Dunks' portion. Thereafter I'll proceed with remodeling of the 'Notable' portion into subsections such as 'Rims Greater than 10 feet', 'Dunkers with Short Stature', and others. Thanks. JustinMBarber (talk) 04:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates & Revisions

message: I suggest merging the newly created Free-throw line dunk into this article which is not unreasonably long. The free-throw line dunk article looks long but a lot of it is unencyclopedic. In particular a list of players who "have dunked from or near the free throw line" is unacceptably vague, subjective and impossible to verify. A more concise exposition would fit in great in the slam dunk article. Pichpich (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there's anything particularly worth merging from the Free-throw line dunk article into the existing article.  I just moved some relevant content from the Slam_dunk#Notable_dunks section into the Slam_dunk#Free_Throw_Line section, and that should be sufficient.  Instead, I would recommend having Free-throw line dunk be changed into a redirect to the Slam_dunk#Free_Throw_Line section. — Myasuda (talk) 23:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free-throw line dunk 

message: There is no reason for Baseline dunk to be a separate article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  22:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: The section "Tomahawk" starts with 
:Due to the undemanding body mechanics involved in execution, the tomahawk is employed by players of all sizes and jumping abilities
and then goes on not explaining what a tomahawk dunk is, except mentioning that both hands are used. 
Could somebody please add a sentence desribing what a tomahwk dunk is? Thank you. --194.118.252.50 (talk) 10:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomahawk 

message: Wikipedia is throwing up the crappy mobile version of pages to high resolution tablet screen again.  How long till it's fixed?  It's unusable.
Surely there are some at Wikipedia of better than Script_kiddie skill levels?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.215.120 (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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