Talk:PES University

message: This reads like it was written by the organization in question. Examples "is one of the premier engineering colleges", "is one of the highest ranked private colleges in Karnataka and a very coveted engineering college". I feel these should be removed. and replaced with more generic descriptions of the university SusanLarson 20:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

message: hey sign ur posts goddamit!
mark antek is a troll,he has been vandalising intentionally or unintentionally the PESIT page.
wikipedia is not a place for advertisement or trade.So,please amke ur comments only abt the collg,dont make comments like"join at ur own risk".
and i dont think resedential facilities need to be mentioned in the page.--Jayanthv86 18:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandals 

message: While the college did make its mark on the news because of its recently enforced disciplinary measures (the infraction slips and the cards), I don't think this can be classified as "encyclopedic" information. I may be wrong though. Lets discuss about this and post your thoughts here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.247.216.130 (talk) 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disciplinary measures 

message: It seems some people have a very wrong idea about what is classified as encyclopedic knowledge. It doesn't matter what negative views you hear about PESIT from the local students of Bangalore.. It is just the opinion of some of the students here. 
I am a student of PESIT since early 2004 and this is what I have to say about these recent comments:
The college also enforces students to be either in class or outside campus so as to "hold up" the reputation of the college. The principal of the college can be seen harassing students not attending class during class hours, being indifferent to any reasons. The college replicates some organizations which can be seen as similar to a communist regime, with little or no voice given to students' opinions. Any suggestions or complaints are often taken as offense and the students are harassed.
 
This is entirely untrue. I know this from personal experience. The college management always lend a ear to the student's queries if the students go and address their issues to them. I have personally disturbed Dr Jawahar late in the evenings and he has always been kind and hospitable to me. He has listened to my issues and rants, offered solutions and promised their delivery. And trust me, he has delivered. The principal, HODs and other management members are also very approachable.
The college lacks the basic sanitary measures in the bathrooms, resulting in foul smell.
The 2 older blocks have less than average sanitary facilities, but it is a pleasure to relieve oneself in the bathrooms in the newer blocks. And again, does the wikipedia page really need to have this information?
The structure of teaching is such that professors play the role of teachers, and thus, lacking in the basic communication skills required. 
The professors are atleast at par with the professors of other engineering colleges of Bangalore, if not better. With respect to the communication skills, in most cases, it is the students who lack the ability to listen and concentrate. Again, there MAY be professors who are not upto the mark, but then again, this is not supposed to be mentioned on the wikipedia page of the institute.
Teaching is done in English but switches constantly to the local language Kannada, thereby thwarting the development of students from other areas.
There are a few teachers who sometimes engage in conversing with the students in Kannada, but this is limited to jokes and other personal or unimportant banter. These things help the teachers to get along with the local students. The lecture is always delivered in English.
The teachers often play the role a of dictator or a primary school teacher by shouting / yelling at students, personally insulting students, threatening to inform the parents of adult students, or chalk throwing.
This is the most ridiculous of all the comments posted recently. Most of the teachers remain composed even when facing the most loud and misbehaving class. Sometimes they crack under pressure and discipline the students causing trouble. There are almost no cases of personal insults and threats and physical action.
They can also been seen answering personal phone calls during class room hours, even though it is banned from college by the VTU.
While this may be true in very few cases, it again doesn't classify as encyclopedic knowledge. Some teachers carry their phones to class because they often have other work outside the bounds of the classroom, like consulting work in other IT companies. Cases where they attend to personal calls are extremely rare, and these cases can be reported to the Head of Department or the Principal and action will be taken.
The college is also known to thwart innovative ideas in the cultural department, and lacks any sort of student council in order for its further development.
One of the reasons why the management is against the formation of any student council is because they don't want to students to waste their time in political activities and concentrate on what is important: learning. The principal, heads of department, the director and the management of the college are very approachable and always lend a ear to the students issues. I know this from personal experience. I have troubled the principal and Dr. Jawahar late in the night a couple of times and they always listened to me. 
Pesit is well known throught the community as a "jail" or primary school, due to the lack or personal choice given to students' attire. They have been quite successful in developing students into "drones" or robots due to the stringent enforcing of rules. Any student breaking the simplest of rules such as no. 2 on the list is clearly warned by the principal to either follow the rules, or will be given a TC to switch colleges.The pes boys hostel is one of the worst places to live in.They dont give you space even to breathe.Its more like a mental and physical torture to the students and the parents.
These are again all opinions of the disgruntled students of the college. You can go and talk to any third year or fourth year student in the college who is has an active social life and is adequately serious about his studies and you will never hear about her complaining about these issues. And once again, this is not something which should be mentioned in wikiedpia. The strict dress code is an issue though. 
I have lived in the PES Boys Hostel for 4 years. While some of the rules are unconventionally strict, it is very comfortable and one of my best life experiences living in the hostel. This is the opinion of every "normal" student who has spent some considerable time in the hostel.
Students don't become drones and robots due to the college rules.. It is the upbringing and the schooling in her earlier years which determine her attitude. PES has some alumni who have made it very big. I know students who are currently studying in PES who have started entrepreneurship and their own ventures. Hardly "robotic". Infact, the college has a special cell which helps students with entrepreneurship and bringing their ideas into reality. 
Sorry if I went a little overboard with my comments. 
Needless to say, I am removing these comments from the page. Any further discussions can take place here.
Munim2020 (talk) 14:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you can't say that none of this is true :P. However, none of the above is encyclopedia material, especially without any citations? Can we nominate this article for locking? TD 59.92.178.230 (talk) 22:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Vandalism 

message: This article needs substantial cleanup and addition of references. Unencyclopedic, non-notable information like the entire section "Disciplinary Measures in PESIT: Infraction Slips:" should probably be removed. We need to add reliable secondary sources and improve the quality of the article. Hopefully somebody can take this task. To get secondary references, use this google news search. There are very good notable events and achievements that can be added instead of concentrating on mundane things. All the best. --Rvian00 (talk) 16:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup required 

message: I have moved the page to P.E.S Institute of Technology, because that is the common name, and according to WP:COMMONNAME, it should be this way. Please state any objections. MikeLynch (talk) 06:42, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: I have changed the logo...high time it was done.
Sunfinite (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The new logo you uploaded on commons has copyright problem. Please update it in en wiki with a fair use rationale. --Nayvik (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have scaled down the image and added proper licensing. TheMike •Wassup doc? 17:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo Change 

message: It is clear from no. of references that the establishment date for PESIT is 1972 not 1988.
Amar Kumar (talk) 09:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is for the PES Group of Institutions, and not PESIT. Read your references properly, and you'll get to know that. Lynch7 12:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

text: You might want to read the website here. Lynch7 12:08, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Simple, the college, as PESIT, in Hosakerehalli, was started in 1988. Before, it was located (I mean programs other than BE), primarily in the Srinagar campus, opposite KR Hospital, as PES College. Not as PESIT. :) Lynch7 14:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Other programs were then later shifted to the Hosakerehalli campus. Lynch7 14:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrected establishment date  

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