Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force/Archive 3

message: There's a bit of a disagreement over whether to include slavery as a subsection of "Themes". There seems to be rough consensus to include it there, but one user insists it should be combined with another section. Outside opinions are wanted. Hermione1980 14:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Harry Potter]] section dispute 

message: I've noticed that over the past few weeks, succession boxes have spread from "Minister for Magic" and "Hogwards Heads" (which happened to be my doing) to "Defence Against the Dark Arts Teachers", "Transfiguration Masters" and "Slytherin Housemaster". The "Transfiguration Masters" box seems particularly pointless, since we only know of two, Dumbledore and Minerva. I'm not complaining or anything, in fact I think the D.A.D.A. Teachers succession box is an excellent idea, but I just don't want to see an article like this next:
Harry Potter is an abnormal freak from the Harry Potter series of fictional books who has far too many succession boxes for his own good.
Maybe overuse of succession-boxes isn't a problem, but I thought I'd mention it after I saw "Hogwarts Potions Master" and "Slytherin Housemaster" on the pages for Snape and Slughorn.
(Edit: Change signatures from three tildes to four) -- Nandhp 12:00, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
:LOL. "Abnormal freak" — is that describing Harry or some of the fans? :-) Anyway, I think that is going a bit overboard. I think we should keep it to roles that we know at least three people have been in. Hermione1980 23:26, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overuse of succession boxes? 

message: I have still not found any explanation of why long plot summaries have been removed from the HP articles. What is the reason for doing something which is making these articles worse, not better? Sandpiper 23:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappearance of long plot summaries 

message: Let's discuss where we want to discuss things.  No change means to keep everything where it is.  Change means to make the following changes :
* Discuss general and strategic things on this talk page.
* Remove /General and /Strategy from the front page and delete them.
* Use /Guide for an article-like (not discussion) guide to basic hints and tips.
Change + /Forum means to make the changes above, except to make /Forum the place for general and strategy discussions, keeping this page just for talk about edits to the main project page.
This isn't really a vote, just a chance to see good reasons for the choices to help us come to a consensus.  You can, of course, give reasons to make other changes than those of Change.
: Change + /Forum for the following reasons :
:* We need a well-written (article, not discussion) participants' guide for things we've come to consensus on.
:* General and strategy discussions take place here anyway.  People who post on /General and /Strategy are ignored because everyone checks here, instead.
:* /Strategy doesn't really exist anyway.
:* We'll have a specific, well-named page (/Forum) for discussions.
:* Newcomers will see /Forum in the list of subpages on the main page and instantly know where to discuss things.
:* Current participants won't be confused if we put a link at the top of this page to redirect people who missed the vote.  We'll also catch the newcomers who use the talk page as a forum.
:* We can use this page to discuss edits to the main page without those discussions being crowded out by the noise of general discussion.  That is the generally accepted purpose for talk pages all over Wikipedia; we're violating that here.
: — 131.230.133.185 01:12, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion place consensus 

message: The logical conclusion of the alterations currently being made to the HP project is that all content relating to the actual stories in the books is to be relocated to wikibooks. The long plot content has only been accepted onto wikibooks on the condition that it will form the basis of detailed analysis. Categories over there already reproduce everything which is here. By the time that process is finished, the same articles will exist over there as exist here now, except that those will have additional content which is more detailed and more conjectural. In other words, if it goes to plan, that will be the best place for someone to find something, and the more interesting place to work. That will inevitably mean a scaling down of the project on pedia untill it only contains topics about Harry Potter not related to book content. Logically, this will form a policy which will apply to all articles about fiction. No information about fictional content on 'pedia.
Is that what you want? Discuss- Sandpiper 01:37, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disappearance of all articles relating to fictional content 

message: :This article has been moved over to Harry Potter Wiki, and completed there through the end of the Book: http://harrypotter.wikicities.com/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince_%28Index%29 DonBruce 13:30, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a list somewhat similar to this one, that indexes the first three books. http://www.marysia.com/hpcanon/index.html 64.42.155.30 14:12, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry Potter Book 6 Index of Characters 

message: Hi there, everybody. The project page said I must inquire here about joining. I am a Harry Potter fan (who isnt?) and a wikipedian who is eager to help and get involved. Is there a place on this project for an editor like me? If so, please let know on my talk page. Thanks. Banes 17:33, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you can just add yourself to the participants list. I think the bit that says inquire on the talk page is if you want to help, but are not sure what to do. --βjweþþ (talk) 18:14, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joining