Talk:George Washington/Archive 1

message: The main talk page for this archive was refactored on 19 July 2005, see this version. Previous versions available at the main talk page's Revision history, the first/earliest post for the talk page being dated 16 June 2002. 
:I've restored the text from the refactor. Graham87 10:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

message: "Washington farmed roughly 8,000 acres (32 km²). Like many Virginia planters at the time, he was frequently in debt and never had much cash on hand. In fact, he had to borrow £600 to relocate to New York, then the center of the American government, to take office as president.
In 1788–9, George Washington was elected the first President of the United States. The First U.S. Congress voted to pay Washington a salary of $25,000 a year—a significant sum in 1789. Washington, whose wealth by some estimates exceeded $500 million in current dollars, refused to accept his salary."
Something has to be re-worded in there.Oldsoul 11:02, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Disconnect of GW's Wealth

message: Since the Articles of Confederation is the legitimate predecessor to the current Constitution, the link should be established showing the transition of power between authorities. -- EmperorBMA / ブリイアン 04:25, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: In consideration, nevermind...  removed. -- EmperorBMA / ブリイアン 04:42, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nicely done, I think -- Nunh-huh 04:44, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Note on the Cyrus Griffin link

message: The qualifier "under the constitution" after "first president of the US" is awkward and out of place. Do all the other presidential entries need to be amended? Should Ronald Reagon be called the 40th president "under the constitution" because there were men who held a completely seperate office but also called president under the Articles of the Confederation?
*Good point. Sometimes the thought is right there but the language isn't. Needs adjustment. Robby159 15:03, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove "under the constitution 

message: At Wikipedia, at all the pages talking about a President of the United States, there have been a few fights about whether there should be a rectangular box containing the Presidents from being at the bottom of the page. Can you please let everyone come to an agreement on whether there should be one?? User 66.32.127.241
* For a long time since this was posted, there has been no box at the bottom, but there is again now. Do you think everyone will agree to include it?? 66.245.10.117 23:29, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  No more fights! 

message: Do you know of a list of Americans who get honored in order by how often they get honored?? (There is a site called "The Political Graveyard" that you can use as a reference tool.) Here are some ways:
*By having a portrait on a denomination of U.S. coins or U.S. currency (For example, George Washington's portrait is on the $1 bill and quarter.)
*By having a state, city, or county named after him. (For example, the state of Washington as well as the capital city of the United States, as well as several counties were named for George Washington.) The total counts as one honor per city, state, or county.
*By having a geographic feature, such as a mountain, named after him.
*By having a person from a later time in history be named for him. (For example, we have Washington Irving and George Washington Carver.) The total counts as one honor per person being named.
*By being carved in a known area. (For example, George Washington has a statue carved at Mount Rushmore.)
*By having a college or university named after him.
*By having a holiday in their honor.
*By being honored with an award, medal, or knighthood.
*By having a navy ship named after them.
*By being compared to another.
As far as I know, I believe it is most likely that George Washington got honored the most, followed by Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. How far do you know about how this list goes?? Try to make it go as far as you can, at least to #10; there is no maximum limit. You may include any American who lived entirely between 1706 and 1945.
# Abraham Lincoln
# George Washington
# Thomas Jefferson
# Benjamin Franklin
# Andrew Jackson
# James Madison
# Theodore Roosevelt
# Grover Cleveland
# Franklin Delano Roosevelt
# William McKinley
# Alexander Hamilton
# Ulysses Grant
# Jefferson Davis
# Francis Marion
Some possible answers that could rank somewhere from #11 to #16 include James Monroe, John Q. Adams, Henry Clay, James Polk, Robert E. Lee, and Woodrow Wilson. Try to put them wherever they go in this list, but remember that there really is no maximum, as long as you are using Americans who lived entirely between 1706 and 1945.66.32.139.147 17:21, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: How come nobody is focusing on the "Honored Americans" section any more?? Can anyone think of a new Wikipedia article to move this section to?? 66.32.131.87 20:27, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honored Americans 

message: George Washington
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#$1 bill
#quarter
#$50 war bond
#Mount Rushmore
#Washington state
#Washington, D.C.
#Washington County, Alabama
#Washington County, Arkansas
#Washington County, Colorado
#Washington County, Florida
#Washington County, Georgia
#Washington County, Idaho
#Washington County, Illinois
#Washington County, Indiana
#Washington County, Kansas
#Washington County, Kentucky
#Washington County, Maine
#Washington County, Maryland
#Washington County, Minnesota
#Washington County, Mississippi
#Washington County, Missouri
#Washington County, Nebraska
#Washington County, New York
#Washington County, North Carolina
#Washington County, Ohio
#Washington County, Oklahoma
#Washington County, Oregon
#Washington County, Pennsylvania
#Washington County, Rhode Island
#Washington County, Tennessee
#Washington County, Utah
#Washington County, Vermont
#Washington County, Virginia
#Washington Parish, Louisiana
#Mount Washington in New Hampshire
#George Washington Carver
#Washington Irving
#USS George Washington (SSBN-598)
#USS George Washington (CVN-73)
#George Washington University
#Washington and Lee University
#Washington and Jefferson College
#Washington University in St. Louis (?)
#Washington Township, New Jersey
#Washington Monument, Washington, D.C.
#George Washington Doane
#Cincinnati, Ohio (he was called "The American Cincinnatus")
Thomas Jefferson
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#$2 bill
#nickel
#Mount Rushmore
#Jefferson City, Missouri
#Jefferson, Maine
#Jefferson, Texas (Jefferson County, Texas was named for this city, not for the President)
#Jefferson County, Alabama
#Jefferson County, Arkansas
#Jefferson County, Colorado
#Jefferson County, Florida
#Jefferson County, Georgia
#Jefferson County, Idaho
#Jefferson County, Illinois
#Jefferson County, Indiana
#Jefferson County, Iowa
#Jefferson County, Kansas (?)
#Jefferson County, Kentucky
#Jefferson County, Mississippi (?)
#Jefferson County, Missouri
#Jefferson County, Montana (?)
#Jefferson County, Nebraska
#Jefferson County, New York
#Jefferson County, Ohio
#Jefferson County, Oklahoma
#Jefferson County, Pennsylvania
#Jefferson County, Washington (?)
#Jefferson County, West Virginia
#Jefferson County, Wisconsin
#Jefferson Parish, Louisiana (?)
#Mount Jefferson in New Hampshire
#Mount Jefferson in Oregon (Jefferson County, Oregon was named for this mountain, not for the President)
#Jefferson Memorial
#USS Thomas Jefferson (SSBN-618)
#Jefferson Davis
#William Jefferson Clinton
#Washington and Jefferson College
Andrew Jackson
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#$10 bill (1914-1928)
#$20 bill (1928-present)
#Jacksonville, Florida
#Jackson, Mississippi
#Jackson, Georgia
#Jackson, Ohio
#Jacksonville, Florida (Called Cowford from 1816 to 1822)
#Jackson County, Alabama
#Jackson County, Arkansas
#Jackson County, Colorado
#Jackson County, Florida
#Jackson County, Illinois
#Jackson County, Indiana
#Jackson County, Iowa
#Jackson County, Kansas
#Jackson County, Kentucky
#Jackson County, Michigan
#Jackson County, Mississippi
#Jackson County, Missouri
#Jackson County, North Carolina
#Jackson County, Ohio
#Jackson County, Oklahoma
#Jackson County, Oregon
#Jackson County, Tennessee
#Jackson County, Texas
#Jackson County, West Virginia
#Jackson County, Wisconsin
#Jackson Parish, Louisiana
#Hickory County, Missouri (named for his nickname, "Old Hickory")
#Mount Jackson in New Hampshire
#USS Andrew Jackson (SSBN-619)
James Madison
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#5000 bill (1918-1946)
#$200 war bond
#Madison, Wisconsin
#Madison, Georgia
#Madison, New Jersey
#Madisonville, Kentucky
#Madison County, Alabama
#Madison County, Arkansas
#Madison County, Florida
#Madison County, Georgia
#Madison County, Idaho
#Madison County, Illinois
#Madison County, Indiana
#Madison County, Iowa
#Madison County, Kentucky
#Madison County, Mississippi
#Madison County, Missouri
#Madison County, Montana
#Madison County, Nebraska
#Madison County, New York
#Madison County, North Carolina
#Madison County, Ohio
#Madison County, Tennessee
#Madison County, Texas
#Madison County, Virginia
#Mount Madison in New Hampshire
#James Madison University
#USS James Madison (SSBN-627)
Abraham Lincoln
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#Penny
#$5 bill
#Illinois State Quarter (has Lincoln on the back)
#Mount Rushmore
#Lincoln Memorial
#Lincoln Highway (Runs from New York to San Francisco.  The route is approximated today by Interstate Highway 80 and U.S. Highway 30 and was the first coast to coast paved road in the United States.)
#Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum (Springfield, Illinois)
#The Lincoln Museum (Ft. Wayne, Indiana)
#The Lincoln Museum (Harrogate, Tennessee)
#Lincoln Bedroom
#Lincoln Logs
#Lincoln Cars
#Lincoln Life Insurance Co.
#Lincoln, Alabama
#Lincoln, Arkansas
#Lincoln, California
#Lincoln, Colorado
#Lincoln, Idaho
#Lincoln, Illinois (Founded 1853, only city or town named after Lincoln during his lifetime)
#Lincoln, Indiana
#Lincoln, Iowa
#Lincoln, Kansas
#Lincoln, Nebraska (Was Lancaster until 1869)
#Lincoln, New Mexico
#Lincoln, North Dakota
#Lincoln, Maine
#Lincoln, Michigan
#Lincoln, Minnesota
#Lincoln, Missouri
#Lincoln, Montana
#Lincoln, Oklahoma
#Lincoln, Oregon
#Lincoln, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln, South Dakota
#Lincoln, Tennessee
#Lincoln, Texas
#Lincoln, Utah
#Lincoln, Washington
#Lincoln, West Virginia
#Lincoln, Wisconsin
#Lincoln Acres, California
#Lincoln Beach, Missouri
#Lincoln Beach, Oregon
#Lincoln Center, Iowa
#Lincoln Center, Maine
#Lincoln City, Indiana
#Lincoln City, Nevada
#Lincoln City, Oregon
#Lincoln Crest, California
#Lincoln Estates, Illinois
#Lincoln Estates, Virginia
#Lincoln Falls, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln Heights, California
#Lincoln Heights, Ohio
#Lincoln Heights, Illinois
#Lincoln Heights, Louisiana
#Lincoln Heights, North Carolina
#Lincoln Heights, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln Heights, Virginia
#Lincoln Hill, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln Hills, Colorado
#Lincoln Hills, Illinois
#Lincoln Hills, Indiana
#Lincoln Junction, Michigan
#Lincoln Mills, Maine
#Lincoln Park, Colorado
#Lincoln Park, Louisiana
#Lincoln Park, Michigan
#Lincoln Park, Nevada
#Lincoln Park, New Hampshire
#Lincoln Park, New Jersey
#Lincoln Park, New York
#Lincoln Park, North Carolina
#Lincoln Park, Ohio
#Lincoln Park, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln Park, Tennessee
#Lincoln Park, Texas
#Lincoln Park, Rhode Island
#Lincoln Park, Virginia
#Lincoln Park, West Virginia
#Lincoln Pioneer Village, Indiana
#Lincoln Ridge, Kentucky
#Lincoln Terrace, Arkansas
#Lincoln Terrace, Pennsylvania
#Lincoln Valley, North Dakota
#Lincoln Village, California
#Lincoln Village, Indiana
#Lincolndale, New York
#Lincolnshire, Illinois
#Lincolnshire, Indiana
#Lincolnshire, Kentucky
#Lincolnville, Indiana
#Lincolnville, Maine
#Lincolnville, Kansas
#Lincolnville, Oklahoma
#Lincolnville, Ohio
#Lincolnville Center, Maine
#Lincolnway Village, Iowa
#Lincolnwood, Illinois
#Lincolnwood Hills, Illinois
#Lincoln College (in Lincoln, Illinois - Dedicated February 12, 1865, the only college or university named after Lincoln during his lifetime)
#Lincoln University (Pennsylvania)
#Lincoln Memorial University (Tennessee)
#Lincoln County, Arkansas
#Lincoln County, Colorado
#Lincoln County, Idaho
#Lincoln County, Kansas
#Lincoln County, Kentucky
#Lincoln Parish, Louisiana
#Lincoln County, Maine
#Lincoln County, Minnesota
#Lincoln County, Mississippi
#Lincoln County, Montana
#Lincoln County, Nebraska
#Lincoln County, Nevada
#Lincoln County, New Mexico
#Lincoln County, Oklahoma
#Lincoln County, Oregon
#Lincoln County, South Dakota
#Lincoln County, Tennessee
#Lincoln County, Washington
#Lincoln County, West Virginia
#Lincoln County, Wisconsin
#Lincoln County, Wyoming
#Fort Abraham Lincoln (near Bismarck, North Dakota)
#Mount Lincoln, New Hampshire
#Lincoln National Forest, New Mexico
#USS Abraham Lincoln (SSBN-602)
#USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72)
#Land of Lincoln (Illinois state nickname)
#Lincoln's Birthday (State holiday in Illinois and 20+ other states)
Theodore Roosevelt
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#Mount Rushmore
#1906 Nobel Peace Prize
#USS Theodore Roosevelt (SSBN-600)
#USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)
#Medal of Honor (Posthumous, 2001)
#Theodore Roosevelt McKeldin
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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#Dime
#Franklin D. Roosevelt Library (Presidential library in Hyde Park, New York)
#Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial (Monument on Washington Mall)
#USS Franklin D. Roosevelt (CV-42)
#USS Roosevelt (DDG-80)
Alexander Hamilton
----
#$1000 bill (1918-1928)
#$10 bill (1928-2014)
#USS Alexander Hamilton (SSBN-617)
Jefferson Davis
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#Jefferson Davis's Birthday (State holiday in some southern states)
Grover Cleveland
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#$20 bill (1914-1928)
#$1000 bill (1928-1946)
#Grover Cleveland Alexander
Ulysses Grant
----
#$50 bill
#USS Ulysses Grant (SSBN-631)
William McKinley
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#$500 bill
#Mount McKinley
#McKinely Coutny, New Mexico
Francis Marion
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#Marion, Alabama
#Marion, Kentucky
#Marion, Indiana
#Marion, Iowa
#Marion, Massachusetts
#Marion, Ohio
#Marion, North Carolina
#Marion, South Carolina
#Marion, New York
#Marion County, Alabama
#Marion County, Arkansas
#Marion County, Florida
#Marion County, Georgia
#Marion County, Indiana
#Marion County, Iowa
#Marion County, Kentucky
#Marion County, Ohio
#Marion County, Tennessee
#Marion County, Texas
#Marion County, West Virginia
#Marion Township, Arkansas
:How come nobody is focusing on the "Honored Americans" section any more?? Can anyone think of a new Wikipedia article to move this section to?? 66.32.131.87 20:27, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Honors

message: Is there any reason the sections starting with Presidency are full headings as opposed to regular headings (one equals sign instead of two) causing the article to be renumbered halfway through?  Telso 02:51, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it. I'm changing it. --Furrykef 02:41, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Large Section Headings

message: I just added some date notes to the "Early Life" section and changed the Old Style year of his birth to 1731 (I did it 1732|1731, so clicking on the Old Style year brings you to the correct Gregorian year).
Reason: At the time of Washington's birth, England started its new years on March 25, not January 1. For English Old Style dates prior to March 25, it's necessary to subtract 1 from the Gregorian year to get the correct Old Style year. See the Mixed-style date page for a good explanation of this issue. Dale Arnett 01:15, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Forget it, I learned something new today. Double dating is really bizarre... Lupo 15:10, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth date

message: My book Presidential Places says that he was born in Washington's Birthplace, Virginia not Wakefield, Virginia. User:Patricknoddy User talk:Patricknoddy 15:51 August 25, 2004 (EDT)
=== Wakefield ===
Wakefield, Virginia is in Sussex County, Virginia not Westmoreland County --Patricknoddy 19:57, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a thorny issue, but I had to change it since saying his birthplace was "Washington's Birthplace" tells us nothing. I have two sources saying he was born in Wakefield; however, it's apparently in the wrong region of Virginia. Unless it's a different Wakefield, we could change it to "Pope's Creek," "Ferry Farm," or just "Westmoreland County" -- which are other locations for his birthplace I've seen. Brutannica 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Do you know his birthplace?? Brutannica 01:33, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: No, Colonial Beach was nearby, he wasn't actually born there. Brutannica 00:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: The website for the [George Washington Birthplace National Monument] reports that he was born at a place known as Pope's Creek Plantation. The closest municipality is Colonial Beach, Virginia. The first paragraph under Early Life describes this as well. Since Colonial Beach is actuall several miles distance from the monument, I think it is probably best to simply list Westmoreland County as Place of Birth in the table with the explanation in the text. older≠wiser 12:27, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just "Pope's Creek Plantation?" Brutannica 00:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: Wakefield, Virginia is in Sussex County, Virginia not Westmoreland County --Patricknoddy 19:57, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a thorny issue, but I had to change it since saying his birthplace was "Washington's Birthplace" tells us nothing. I have two sources saying he was born in Wakefield; however, it's apparently in the wrong region of Virginia. Unless it's a different Wakefield, we could change it to "Pope's Creek," "Ferry Farm," or just "Westmoreland County" -- which are other locations for his birthplace I've seen. Brutannica 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Do you know his birthplace?? Brutannica 01:33, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: No, Colonial Beach was nearby, he wasn't actually born there. Brutannica 00:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: The website for the [George Washington Birthplace National Monument] reports that he was born at a place known as Pope's Creek Plantation. The closest municipality is Colonial Beach, Virginia. The first paragraph under Early Life describes this as well. Since Colonial Beach is actuall several miles distance from the monument, I think it is probably best to simply list Westmoreland County as Place of Birth in the table with the explanation in the text. older≠wiser 12:27, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just "Pope's Creek Plantation?" Brutannica 00:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wakefield, Virginia|Wakefield]] 

message: Okay, apparently a new editor had edited the article, changing — to –
But, he/she did not see the vandalism before that: -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:05, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Careful!  Tricky Vandalism! 

message: So Washington didn't wear a wig. OK, I accept that. Never really questioned it, really, because every portrait I've ever seen of the man made it look like he was a closet mullet devotee rather than a wig guy.
However, I just reverted an anon -- and I feel bad for doing it, because it's certainly plausible -- who claimed, in the same section, that good ol' George powdered his hair. Anyone got a reference for this?--chris.lawson 23:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a reference for him not wearing a wig? Just because that was there first, we should accept it more than a new addition? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, just pointing out something I've noticed today - existing unsourced material is kept, while new unsourced material is discarded. --Golbez 23:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I sure don't. But as I mentioned, I've never seen a portrait of him wearing anything that looked like a wig. Now, I accept that wigs can be very hard to distinguish, but the wigs that were stylish in Washington's day were, uh, well, very large and showy. And if there's one thing Washington's hair isn't, it's "large and showy".--chris.lawson 23:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wig/powdering 

message: This category has been added and removed a couple of times recently. In this context of the subject of this article it seems like an anachronism to me. -EDM 23:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Scottish-American 

message: I just repaired the list of other language version links as all non-latin alphabet ones were just question marks instead of their appropriate characters. I suspect this happens when someone copies the text into a word processor or notepad that doesn't support those characters and then, after the edit, pastes it back into the edit window and inadvertently replaces the links with question marks. Please make sure these other language versions are correctly displayed before saving.--Kalsermar 16:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut 'n paste editing 

message: I quote now from the peer review: "The article needs better sourcing, it's not clear which if any of the books in the further reading section actually source the information in the article. Some inline citations would help as well." This is true, but as I have not helped with this article, it would be difficult for me to do. Will anyone with more familiarity of this article shoulder the greater responsibility for citing the sources? (If not, I guess I will have to, but I am pretty much a newcomer to this article). --Trevdna 02:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources in this article 

message: George Washington is part of the list of Federalist party candidates, and there's a little footnote at the end of the article explaining how he was president before the Federalist Party was formed.  First, maybe there should be more information about this in the article proper, second, shouldn't this article be in the United States Federalist Party category?
Billy Shears 22:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I always thought Washington was not a part of any political party and was not elected as a Federalist.--Kalsermar 22:59, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Federalist? 

message: With the exception of Dwight Eisenhower, who held a lifetime commission as General of the Army (five star), George Washington is the only President with military service to reenter the military after leaving the office of President. 
*All officer commissions are lifetime commissions.  The only other way is to actually resign one's commission.  Also—officers never actually "retire" from the military, rather they are put on "reduced pay."  This is an obscure rule from the 19th century that was recently used in order to recall some general in order to court martial him on a sexual harrasment charge.  Did Washington actually reenter active military service after his presidency?  I'm not so sure about that.  --Easter Monkey 18:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reentering the military?  

message: I would like to add some fun interesting trivia. For instance that he was the first president to own a cooler, his height, how he proposed the design of the flag to Betty Ross along with other facts which I feel would be beneficial to add. Everyone please try to find some fun facts so we can add it!
Feel free to discuss. -JJ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.131.204.60 (talk • contribs) 02:20, December 16, 2005.
::I think trivia section is a great idea Rjensen 02:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as it is somewhat relevant and encyclopedic. Washington was the first president for everything btw so that's hardly noteworthy.--Kalsermar 15:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I would hate to see this degenerate into the kind of stuff you see in other articles, like "Washington was a character in so-and-so video game", and the like.  There is nothing wrong with a little relevant trivia, just remember to keep this a serious article about an important person.  --rogerd 15:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we add some Washington trivia? 

message: See the Washington_Inaugural_Bible for details. Ronabop 10:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: His Bible

message: *This section is way too long.  It should be a paragraph in the Presidency section, not a dozen paragraph section of its own (it already has its own article).  --JW1805 (Talk) 04:41, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Part 2

message: I found this in the article: "George Washington was elected unanimously by the Electoral College in 1789, and remains the only person ever to be elected president unanimously (a feat which he duplicated in 1792). As runner-up with 34 votes, John Adams became Vice President-elect.". If Washington was elected unanimously, how can there have been a runner-up with 34 votes? DJ Clayworth 15:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Before the Constitution was amended to employ the current system of one vote for president and one for vice president electors would simply cast two votes without specifying for what office. The person with the highest number of votes became president and the runner up vice president. In Washington's case all electors voted for him but not all for Adams, thus it can be said Washington was the unanimous choice of the electors.--Kalsermar 20:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unanimous?

message: It says on the george washington page that he vaccinated his troops, this is wrong as vaccination did not exsist in 1776, read up on Edward Jenner, innoculation existed though. The preceding, previously unsigned comment by 172.215.199.149
Thank you for that (I realized that vaccines weren't around until the 1800s) - however, since I am not aware of Edward Jenner, and that is a fairly irrelevant point, I took it out completely, and replaced it with other stuff (it being a low point for the Army). However, if anyone has any references for that section, it would be great. --Trevdna 15:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Innoculation