Talk:Appropriation (art)

message: To begin a discussion of "Appropriation (art)," let me first suggest that we remove speculative information regarding Marcel Duchamp's appropriated urinal.  Someone has written that "recent research has revealed the apparent urinal as non-standard, and even as non-functional: Duchamp allegedly custom-designed it along with his other supposed readymades."  This is pure conjecture without a citation or source and should be removed from the article. 
Mcameronboyd 03:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To begin 

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replies: text: So -- rewrite it. Bus stop (talk) 16:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Rabbit Jeff Koons.jpg

message: There have been many new cases lately of issues with artists appropriating imagery and running into trouble with copyright. I am going to update the 'Appropriation art and copyrights' section.
Wgomoll (talk) 17:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update - Appropriation art and copyrights 

message: The history entry needs to be rewritten and backed by references.  
I will tackle the paragraph devoted to Marcel Duchamp's readymades.  I will include complete dates related to the development of the readymade, expand on the significance of Fountain and include references. Undene (talk) 23:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update - Appropriation art and history 

message: I don't understand. The extremely expansive definition of the term, appropriation, contained in this article is not supported either by common usage or by any historical or critical texts with which I am familiar.  I'm sure few would trace its history back further than Duchamp, and to suggest a connection with the polymath activities of Leonardo is only confusing the issue. The article needs to be thoroughly re-researched and rewritten.  Orapronobis (talk) 19:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely agree. It's a project-and-a-half!! The definition is so broad here it could encompass all and every kind of art. There's definitely a lot wrong. Sionk (talk) 19:10, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansive definition

message: This article isn't moving forward very fast. Someone removed the "essay-like" tag in 2012, though I think it still applies. I've added the "confusing" template, because the article still meanders meaninglessly across a broad range of topics. I'd make the following points: 
# Definition - judging by the dictionary definition, 'appropriation' in art means the reuse of objects or images with little if any transformation. Therefore that doesn't include all installation artists, or anybody that creates new things inspired by someone else's work.
# The article, judging by its title, is about appropriation in art. That implies it isn't about appropriation in the wider arts i.e. not film-making, writing etc.
# Large parts/statements/claims are unsourced. It has the whiff of original research in places.
# Following on from the above, very few copyright legal cases will involve 'appropriation'. I've already removed the Shephard Fairey case, where he created a new work based on someone else's photo.
#The looong list of artists is meaningless at the moment. Unless they are clearly known for using objects or images directly in their art with little transformation, they need to be removed.
# Give me 10 minutes, I'll probably think of something else.
Sionk (talk) 18:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up and rewrite?

message: In Australia, the term is used outside literary criticism to describe visual artworks that recreate historical and cultural artifacts. The origins of the words' use to describe artworks comes from literature and is a dense and complex area of textural analysis, quotation etc. Think Derrida and continue the search into Russian literature, US cultural influences of film and television. The Australian variant is called post-colonialism and refers to non-indigenous culture as outside the indigenous culture and vise versa. Many interesting artists currently in Australia who practice this form of cultural double act.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.45.119.154 (talk) 04:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
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