Talk:Battle of Wizna

message: In the box:
  Soldiers: 15640
  Vehicles: at least 50 tanks and several AFVs
In the text:
  German losses are not known either. In his diaries general Heinz Guderian understated 
  the number of German soldiers killed in action. It is certain, however, that the Wehrmacht 
  lost at least 10 tanks and several other AFVs in the struggle.
Where do the exact numbers in the box come from?
--217.232.13.28 (talk) 17:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Try asking editors responsible for adding the information: , . Polish wiki repeats the para about unknown losses citing no sources. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  21:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I have set the casualties to "Unknown", and I ask all editors to change this only when you can quote reliable sources. The numbers attributed to Guderian look anecdotal, too. -- Zz (talk) 11:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Casualties and losses 

message: so why it is 720 dead in the table?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.184.233.29 (talk) 21:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Exact Polish losses are unknown, mostly because very little is known of the soldiers that were taken POW by the Germans. It is estimated that most of Polish soldiers were killed in action, with some 40 successfully withdrawing and additional 40 taken POW. Those numbers however are not certain.

message: Failed due to insufficient citations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 22:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: B-class review

message: The figure of 42,200 men for the Wehrmacht against 720 Polish soldiers is incorrect. The attack was done by the Ist/IR86, supported by 2nd/light Anti Air Detachment 71 (mot.)and the light companies of Tank regiment 8 with Pz I and II. They had as well artillery and some air support. So it is difficult to give an exact number. In the war diaries of the germans are as well mentioned some cavalry units and there were some fights besides the bunkers. So the 720 seem to be just the numbers for the bunker line. So silbersterns estimation above, of 2000 against 750 is probably not far from truth. So the 42,200 should be deleted from the text. The battle lasted from 04.50 am on september 8th, with the arrival of the ALA till september 10th around 1.30 pm, according to the german war diaries. The battle under the responsibility of Guderian lasted even just for a single day. The number of german casualties is not given for this single event. The ALA reported for the morning of the 8th that they had 9 KIA and 26 WIA. --Hathugot (talk) 14:32, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be. Please cite your sources, and then feel free to correct the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Unreferenced figures and claims should be market with  and removed if no citation is provided. All other information can be included here; if sources are contradictory, we should clearly state so. All of your statements above are useful, but they each need inline citations, up to and including page number, before inclusion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbers of troops

message: Should there be a reference to Sabaton's "Forty to One", their song about the battle?  Maybe under a section, "Legacy in Modern Culture" or something like that? 173.23.16.189 (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabaton, Forty to One 

message: Please see the book „First to Fight“ from Roger Moorhouse. While appreciating the Polish heroism in the battle, he states on page 134 that:
 
„ …the more breathless claims attached to the Wizna story are rather harder to justify. Wizna alone did not - as some accounts suggest - halt the 40,000 men of the German 3rd Army in their tracks; that accolade must be shared with the men who defended Lomza and Nowogród further to the west. 
 
Neither did the battle last for three days. Though the Germany first arrived at the river on the 7th, there was evidently little genuine combat in the sector until the morning of the 10th…“ 2A01:598:A0FD:9887:5CC3:3C64:8120:75B7 (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of troops - again