Talk:10 Hygiea

message: Is it Hygeia or Hygiea? I've seen both on several sites. I've also seen Hygieia referring to the Greek goddess, but which is the proper spelling for the asteroid itself?
:The authority on spelling of asteroid names is Dictionary of Minor Planet Names by Lutz D. Schmadel. His spellings are sometimes different from the normal English spelling of the eponymous deity's name. Unfortunately I don't know why. --Cam (talk) 13:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: This page desperately needs an image...even if it is just a picture of it in a starfield. 70.177.71.206 17:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Permission is already given.  Going up one level, at the bottom of the page: "Please note: The images in this gallery are released into the public domain. If any image or images are redisplayed or reproduced, please accompany the image or images with the following acknowledgment: "Atlas Image [or Atlas Image mosaic] obtained as part of the Two Micron All Sky Survey (2MASS), a joint project of the University of Massachusetts and the Infrared Processing and Analysis Center/California Institute of Technology, funded by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the National Science Foundation." If pressed for space, this acknowledgment could be shortened to, e.g., "Atlas Image [or Atlas Image mosaic] courtesy of 2MASS/UMass/IPAC-Caltech/NASA/NSF." However, all or part of the full acknowledgment is preferred. This is the stated policy of 2MASS."Michaelbusch 02:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images? 

message: Just like 2002TX300 there is nothing here about how its up for promotion to dwarf planet status unless that data is old. Arkkeeper (talk) 19:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotion 

message: There's nothing in the linked text to support the claim that this was the last asteroid discovered to be considered a primary planet. In any event I found a later source which lists later asteroids like 11 Parthenope as primary planets. --Cam (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last primary planet 

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--JeffGBot (talk) 03:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: I suggest to add an image of a three dimensional model, like in the article about asteroid 5 Astraea, and to move the animated orbit diagram into the text. 
Perhaps the following image could be used: http://home.comcast.net/~eliws/ceres/images/LightcurveHygiea.jpg
Renerpho (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three dimensional model 

message: The orbital animation does not appear to make sense. It shows Hygiea as moving in a small stable loop relative to a Sun-Jupiter frame, but this is not how it is in reality. The notes attached to the animation give insufficient information to allow any other meaning to be discerned. I am tempted to remove it unless it can be justified.
Ordinary Person (talk) 14:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean? Hygiea's orbit is stable. --JorisvS (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  To be clear, I'm referring to the animation labelled "A rotating frame depiction of asteroid Hygeia's orbital motion relative to Jupiter". Hygiea's orbit _is_ stable by it does not form a small stable loop relative to the sun-Jupiter frame.Ordinary Person (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The position of the planets are not shown. It is clearly not a rotating reference frame, which means that Jupiter would be seen to change position in it if it were shown. --JorisvS (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orbital animation 

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message: Refname "Baer" no longer works. Jim Baer's website is not archived and the size, mass, density estimates for Hygiea may need to be revised with another source. Nrco0e (talk)
:Updated.Renerpho (talk) 11:41, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Baer 

message: There are a lot more images available than the one used in the press release. I went ahead and processed a few of them (see here). Compare page 31 of (Vernazza et al., 2019) for the official processing of the same data. The raw data is available at this link. I think the images from the paper aren't free, but anything produced from the raw data should be suitable for Wikipedia. Do you think these make a useful addition to the article? If yes then I will upload a licensed version. Renerpho (talk) 01:29, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be nice to have these images to further illustrate Hygiea's surface features especially its two craters Calix and Serpens, which should be added somewhere in the article (once it is organized). Nrco0e  02:51, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. Renerpho (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

text: Since the images are from a paper in a journal, and are the work of the authors of that paper, they might be considered separate from the free content published on the website, just like Hubble images that are part of a paper aren't necessarily free. The raw data is less of a problem, I believe. Renerpho (talk) 03:07, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

text: That's what I think. Renerpho (talk) 04:30, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional VLT-SPHERE images 

message: The Planetary Society offers us "A New Look at Asteroid Hygeia". If this is notable, it might need some expansion; I'm sure someone can come up with a 20th century misspelling as well.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not misspelled. The name of the goddess is spelled various ways in Greek, Latin and English. At the time, bodies weren't given spellings, they were given names. Didn't matter all that much how you spelled the name. Now when the IAU assigns a "name", it's really assigning a spelling, but that's a modern development. — kwami (talk) 18:09, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The name was occasionally misspelled Hygeia in the 19th century, for example in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society."