Talk:Yakov Dzhugashvili

message: Second sentence, second paragraph in Marriages and Family section, "She [Ketevan Orakhelashvili] instead married Evgeni Mikeladze, a prominent orchestra conductor, earning ridicule from Stalin." Who earned Stalin's ridicule? Ketevan, Evgeni, or Yakov? Is this a poorly worded statement, or was it in fact Ketevan who earned his ridicule? Fiona Marissa 23:10, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Who? What?

message: Is there any evidence that Zoya Gunina was jewish? All evidence seems to point to the contrary: see for example http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/archive-files-suggest-son-of-stalin-surrendered-to-invading-germans-a-883119.html in particular : "When he finished high school in 1925, he moved in with Zoya Gunina, a 16-year-old classmate and daughter of an Orthodox priest."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.76.0.128 (talk) 15:43, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Gunina jewish?

message: Is it Yakov's daughter or Yevgeni's daughter?Czar 02:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: The factual "I never trade a General for a soldier" like comment is a given.
But where did the "I don't have a son" comment come from? Is it just propganda against Stalin or was it a line used in a film that became tangled with reality? May explain why this statement is most used in the U.S., Canada, etc.
-G  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 04:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where did this comment come from?

message: The massacre, could it have been Katyn massacre? ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 13:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what the "external" link says, but without any actual evidence. Seems to be based on hearsay and is very speculative. Some actual proof of this contention seems to be in order. Dr. Dan (talk) 17:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Telegraph cites "Professor John Erickson, the world's leading authority on the Soviet-German War, (who)... published in the latest edition of the Soviet Military Journal.".radek (talk) 17:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I had no idea that the "world's leading authority" on the Soviet-German War (published in the "latest edition" of the Soviet Military Journal), had determined that Stalin's son committed suicide as a result of the Katyn massacre. I suppose a citation from The Telegraph settles it. That would be the actual "proof" of this contention? That's not an opinion, right? Dr. Dan (talk) 03:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Dr Dan, I am glad that you find it amusing. Now, if you do not think that John Erickson, author of several notable books and publications, is not an authority on the war, please tell me who in your opinion is. Tymek (talk) 19:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct that I'm amused. I would not disagree that JE is an authority, only the part that he's the "worlds leading authority" (doubt that he'd disagree with me) and that one should think that Yakov Dzhugashvili's death was a consequence of his shame over the Katyn massacre. Much too ambiguous information for an encyclopedia entry. Please re-read my entry above concerning the matter. Dr. Dan (talk) 04:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree with Dr. Dan. "The report that he committed suicide suggests that he learned, from Nazi guards at the concentration camp, of a massacre of Polish troops by Russians, and was overcome by shame" should be deleted or cited. He was Georgian, why would he care about the Poles?
The words "fact" and "The Telegraph," often appear together, but they should not. It is a verified propaganda organ of capitalist voyageurs that would call the Queen a cat if it meant slamming socialism with the hope of a higher quarterly LSE volume.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.13.62.237 (talk) 00:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Massacre of Polish troops

message: Yakov Dzhugashvili is not correct romanization of georgian. this is romanization of russian, but this person not was russian. He only few year live in russia. his knoweledge of russian language not was perfect. his children and grandchildren and grandgrand children now living in Georgia. I think correct name of article is Iakob Jug(h)ashvili. this is correct romanization for georgian.--Gaga.vaa (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Name moving

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message: The section about his death starts with some historians' conflicting theories about whether he was shot or electrocuted. But later in that section it says the German records of his death say he was both electrocuted and shot, which would seem to settle it. So why do we need all this guesswork? I propose taking it out. Richard75 (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reworded that section to update this. Kaiser matias (talk) 15:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death