Talk:Genetic engineering in science fiction

message: Adding dates for each work mentioned would make this a lot more informative. -- Jmabel | Talk 03:10, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates

message: Should this article be named as a list since it seems to be a list rather than prose?  RJFJR (talk) 16:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  List like? 

message: I am going to deprod this article. I see this article as essentially a list-based article, as described by WP:LIST. I have rewritten the introductory sections to include citations to secondary references, most of them reliable. The intro shows that genetic engineering in fiction is a notable concept. Lists of genetics-themed literature are out there in multiple reliable sources, such as the WTSI and the NHGRI, showing that the idea of a list of such literature is well-founded, too. 
The list following the intro follows WP:LIST, in that all but a few of the entries are linked to Wikipedia articles. The few not linked could be removed, if that is a problem. Given that the intro shows notability of the topic and that the associated list follows basic WP:LIST guidelines, the article should be kept.
From a style point of view, the list is huge and could be broken out into its own List of fiction with a genetic engineering theme article, but I'll stop here for the moment. --Mark viking (talk) 05:47, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deprod 

message: This series has not been mentioned at all, despite the fact that genetic engineering is the root cause of all problems in the plot of this trilogy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.97.152.96 (talk) 06:02, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divergent/Insurgent/Allegiant 

message: Eugenics is not genetic engineering so does not fit in with this article/list title. I am tempted to just remove it, but other options may be a split or rename of this article. AIRcorn (talk) 20:00, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: How have you come to that conclusion? Eugenics includes selective breeding and artificial selection. Selective breeding and artificial selection are also considered genetic engineering by some official entities, such as the European Commission.  While not all types of eugenics are genetic engineering, inclusion probably needs to be decided on a per case basis. --Mark viking (talk) 20:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If selective breeding is genetic engineering then all humans and domesticated animals, plus a whole lot of others are genetically engineered. Better to use the tighter definition, not the broad one for articles like this. AIRcorn (talk) 20:56, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: An interesting problem.  One way to solve it is to rename this article "genetic manipulation in literature", "genetics in literature" (or some other broader definition that includes breeding and things like Frankenstein), and then create subcategories of "genetic engineering", Eugenics, etc.   How do the other encyclopedias handle this?  We should probably follow their examples, since their articles seem more mature from what little I have reviewed here.  What do libraries and bookstore do? How do the Dewey Decimal and Library of Congress cataloging systems handle this?  No need to re-invent the wheel, if this problem has already been solved. One of the problems obviously is that writers of fiction anticipated genetic engineering without understanding the actual and practical limitations and boundaries that distinguish different technologies that determine the clearer boundaries we have today.  Some categories regarding genetics and eugenics in fiction may have made sense in the past and may precede the practical naming conventions we use today. For that reason the concept "genetic engineering in science fiction" may have a different meaning than "genetic engineering" as defined by regulators, scientists or by the mainstream media.  So we might need to consult with some expert WP:RS in the field of literature or library science before making a decision on this.  --David Tornheim (talk) 11:44, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't find an article on cloning so I am thinking the best thing would be to gchange this title to Genetic manipulation in science fiction and keep the current section headings and add cloning (:category:cloning in fiction). Not sure reanimation should be included as that goes quite a bit broader again and is covered in some part by List of zombie films, Frankenstein in popular culture and probably others. Maybe just link in a see also. AIRcorn (talk) 07:44, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eugenics 

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