Talk:Waste heat

message: First of all I need to confess, I am no expert on these things. I gather that the efficiency of a normal fossil fuel power plant is about 35%. To me that seems pretty rubbish. I would have thought that on an industrial scale, something better than that could be achieved. Near where I live, there is a big power station operating lots of those huge natural draft wet cooling towers. As you see the clouds of water vapour rising from them, you can not help but be struck by the waste of energy. It could hardly be more in your face!
Using cogeneration, as mentioned in this article, the waste can be reduced. In the 'cogeneration' article, the claim is made that cogeneration can potentially reach an efficiency of about 70%. Nice improvement!
Where it is not practical to use the heat in this way, more work could be got out of it using a stirling engine. I wonder why this is not done?--JB001 13:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To answer my own question: apparently, stirling engines can be designed to function on low temperature differences (such as the low grade waste heat source of a power station), however, at present the resultant engine would be large, inefficient and uneconomical.--JB001 10:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other possible uses for waste heat? 

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message: This is the same thing as anthro heat. I've restored Atmoz's stuff abot GW William M. Connolley (talk) 08:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's not.  Anthro heat includes heat leakage.  Waste heat does not. Andrewjlockley (talk) 08:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're going to do a merge, merge WH into AH, as AH is the more general term.  WMC, you're an admin - can you do that change if you support it? Andrewjlockley (talk) 10:51, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Waste heat is the more common term  William M. Connolley (talk) 12:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: its still a subset Andrewjlockley (talk) 12:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can anyone find a single WP:RS supporting the idea that heat leakage is classed as waste heat?  WMC, Atmoz and Kim are all supporting the merge, but have not provided one single source to back up the assertion that waste heat includes heat leakage.  If it doesn't, then waste heat is a subset of anthro heat, not a synonym. Back up your views, please - or revert your edit. Andrewjlockley (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about. I saw two articles that described the same thing so I merged them. End of story. If reliable, secondary sources say they aren't, then fix it (or alternatively). -Atmoz (talk) 02:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The article is little more than a stub. Concentrate on fixing it - there's plenty of room to cover all aspects whether waste or anthro oriented. When and if it grows to long, then break out fork articles. Focus on improving the article rather than bantering about technicalities. Vsmith (talk) 03:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, and it's supposed to be correct.  Anthro heat is NOT the same as waste heat.  No-one who's effected or supported the redirect has managed to come up with a WP:RS to state that they are the same.  There's a very simple solution:  Make waste heat a redirect to anthropogenic heat, and move all existing content to AH.  I can tidy up the result quite happily.  No work, no proliferation, no errors: simple! Andrewjlockley (talk) 07:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Anthropogenic_heat - Boris notes the distinction between WH and AH. If there's only 1 article, it has to be AH (IMO). Andrewjlockley (talk) 14:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anthro heat 

message: I added a section on animals.  Clearly waste, clearly not AH Andrewjlockley (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: zomg - are you serious about this??? Got a reference? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue is discussed in detail at thermoregulation.  Andrewjlockley (talk) 10:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For those unaware of the existence of metabolic heat, or mystified by its regulation by sweating, etc,  I have as requested added a reference.  I suggest only a very small proportion of readers will need evidence that animals sometimes get too hot. Now, we do appear to have a WP:RS to demonstrate that WH is not always AH - unless of course anyone doesn't believe that non-human animals also get too hot. (not that I'm suggesting that stance would be petty or anything)Andrewjlockley (talk) 11:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ref is about human heat regulation and therefore further evidence for the merger of AH here. Vsmith (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't your dog sweat? :-) Andrewjlockley (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: I merged in AH, making clear that there are subtle and important differences between the two concepts.  I am leaving this message not to gripe or whinge, but in the hope that future generations will unearth it and be aware that, with further work, due respect for consensus and process (and doubtless some shouting), the AH section could perhaps one day be considered suitable to live independently once again.  As a precaution, I have ritually flagellated myself for making this comment, so please feel no compulsion to invite me to do so again. Andrewjlockley (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I merged the two articles. You whined about it on the talk page, but nobody agreed with you. So you threw a hissy fit and went crying to momma. Momma didn't give you the answer you wanted, so now you claim it was your idea all along. Nice try rewriting your childish behavior, but that ain't gonna fly. Get your facts straight. -Atmoz (talk) 21:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: AH merge

message: Moved here from Help talk:Reverting. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anthropomorphic Heat 

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