Talk:Evil Dead II

message: Surely the revenue estimate of under six million is too small. Does this include the DVD sales or is it just the Cinema takings? As a film with a "classic horror" status I would have thought that it returned much more than this... 194.69.198.242 (talk) 09:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revenue Estimate 

message: In my opinion everything that happens up until Ash is thrown through trees is a remake. The beginning is just a retelling without Ash's pals and only his girlfriend.--suit-n-tie 20:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so, too, but not the whole film is a remake. --81.62.8.243 (talk) 18:05, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remake Theory 

message: I've noticed some of these trivia bits are taken from the IMDb, which is often quite unreliable. I think someone should put a tag or something on this.
:I don't see one that isn't backed up by either the audio commentary on the DVD, Bill Warren's Evil Dead Companion (), or Bruce Campbell's autobiography (). Is any item in particulary troublesome to you? --SB | T 03:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I just removed two items that I couldn find no sources for (about it being Matt Groening's favorite film, and the "La Casa" Italian release material).--SB | T 05:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Validity of claims

message: Although no one cares, I have edited out the boyfriend/research partner with simply research partner. Not once was Ed called what's her name's boyfriend.--suit-n-tie 01:57, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Edit 

message: The plot section is awful.  I spent a few minutes making the grammar somewhat more comprehensible but someone needs to rewrite the entire section.  The syntax is unbelievable and there were links to pages of the supporting characters' first names (i.e. Ed and Jake).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.84.88 (talk) 23:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision Needed 

message: i'd like to redo this section but obviously not without a strong concensus. while many people argue about whether it is a remake or a sequel, there is a STRONGER argument that it is truely neither, but does incorporate aspects of both. the main reason that it is NOT truely a remake is that although the beginning of the film is 75% true to form of the original certain key aspects (storyline deviations) make it clear that is not a remake. first of all, three less characters arrive in the woods intially and secondly, Ash destroys the Necromonicon at the end of Evil Dead. Also the storyline incorporated from part 1 accounts for less than of part 2, since the similarities end after Ash deals with his dead girlfriend. Now the obvious reason that this IS NOT a sequel, which came to me after watching Evil Dead II, seems rather obvious, that in Evil Dead II, none of the events from Evil Dead I have taken place, in fact, they take place within the movie Evil Dead II. Let's clear up the confusion in this article. --AlexOvShaolin 18:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remake or Sequel? neither 

message: I changed the reference to this to being "the classic novel by Ernest Hemingway" to "by Stubby Kaye. This is presumably a reference to the classic novel of the same name by Ernest Hemingway" but someone changed it back as comedian Stubby Kaye didn't really write this novel.
Regardless of the only "real" book titled "A Farewell To Arms" being written by Hemingway, the prop in the movie clearly says "by Stubby Kaye" - this is also mentioned by Sam Raimi in the audio commentary. Accordingly I have changed it back, with clarification. "Stubby" is presumably a joke by the filmmakers in reference to Ash's missing hand. Pearce.duncan 21:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am watching the movie as I write this and in the scene where you clearly see the book "Farewell to Arms" there is no "by Stubby Kaye" or mention of any other author, at least not that I can see. I realize that they joke about it on the commentary, but I really think you guys are misremembering the movie. I'll at least like to see some screencap of  this as proof. As it stands I'm going to edit this because I think it's misinformation. Uselesswarrior 16:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi-lariously we just went over this issue on this very page *including screencaps* and I wouldn't be shocked if had happened earlier in the history as well.  Perhaps this time the conversation should be left here to try and head off future attempts to change it. Blahaccountblah 13:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Farewell To Arms 

message: He's been flagged for possibly lacking notability - anyone care to help expand his article? - Dan Hicks (actor)
Bladeboy1889 13:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dan Hicks 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Evil-dead-2-book-of-the-dead-limited-edition-20050923115402419.jpg

message: The plot summary for films should be between 400-700 words, not two sentences.  Believe it or not most readers come to film articles to read the plot.  They can pick up the DVD and read a two-sentence blurb.  Wikipedia is supposed to offer more than that to readers.  The summary before is too long, but it can be shorten to the reasonable length by regular editing according to the film plot guidelines. I'm going to revert it back and instead of cussing editors out in the edit summaries, actually try and participate in this discussion? Mike Allen  06:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So I grabbed a much shorter but still fleshed out version of the plot from an earlier diff (I think this is the one I grabbed, minus the sequel vs. remake section) and dumped it in my sandbox.  It still needs some work (massive wall of text, poor grammar, yada yada yada) but I've managed to trim about 100 words out of it already.  I'll keep massaging it over the next few days but that version should be easy to work into an actual plot summary that isn't out of control.  In the meantime, I really think the article is better served by temporarily having an overly long plot than a summary that amounts to the blurb on the back of a DVD box.  Millahnna (talk) 06:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Betty Logan pointed me to an older version of the plot right before the bloating started so I just dropped that in.  Millahnna (talk) 08:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

text: First of all, I have no idea where you got the idea that "most readers" want to read scene-by-scene breakdowns, and even if that were true, it's not actually an argument for including it. We don't decide things by majority rule; we decide based on actual substance. I also absolutely and totally disagree that the article is "better served" by horrible piles of shit in the middle of articles instead of sparse and utilitarian summaries. Having said that, the summary that's there, while still far too long and still horribly written, is not awful enough to warrant total erasure, so whatever.--KS | T 09:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it never should have been a scene by scene break down to begin with (that seems to have come from detail creep that began back in 2008 and went on into 2009).  Per the plot summary guidelines for Wiki in general and films in particular, that's not what a plot summary is supposed to be.  However, it is also supposed to be a complete summary not a placeholder blurb (like those we often use in articles for films not yet released) thus my thoughts that the (admittedly horrid) overly long version served the article better for the time being.  That said, I do agree that the one Betty found that I just dropped in could use some copy editing, which will probably cut down on the word count some. It's only 550 words now (well within length guidelines) so I'm not worried about the word count specifically, just the flow of the text.  It seems that you and I share that pet peeve in common.  In any case, if no one beats me to it, I'll try to go over it over the next few days to improve the sentence structure and flow and all of the usual things I try to look at.  I'm sure I'll have typos though so someone should keep an eye on me, as it were.  Millahnna (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot summary 

message: I caught the end of The Evil Dead II on TV the other night & seen the scene with the temporal portal. Is the temporal portal the same one used (as in made using the same spacial effects/ CGIs) as the one used in the film The Final Countdown ? Also, how was the temporal portal effect made ? 80.254.146.140 (talk) 13:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporal Portal - The Final Countdown Vs. The Evil Dead II