Talk:New Providence, New Jersey

message: Deleted my discussions on the speed traps, since they are long gone.--Matthew McCullough 20:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

message: If we are still looking for things to add to the page, why not NPHS athletics.  i know there is alot of championship years hanging in the gym, so we could maybe have a section about which years we won, and such.  Also, band championships, because i know for a fact that our band has some pretty noteable achievements.  What do you guys think?--Matthew McCullough 23:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be added to the New Providence High School page, not here. --Larsinio 14:25, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideas for expansion 

message: Added a link for a photography group I formed on a photogtaphy website called Flickr.  The group photo pool has a collection of pictures taken in New Providence.  I hope that one day, the pool will be a very large collection, and a photographic documentation of New Providence.  Group can be found here.
--Matthew McCullough 03:39, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photography Group 

message: I agree, it probably doesn't belong in the "Landmarks" section. However, I left NP in 1986 to live in England, but I still come back every once in a while. Every time I do, I go and get a sub from the Towne Deli. It's one of the few places that hasn't changed in the last twenty years, even if I have.
Jfbcubed 22:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Avenue deli is much better anyway.. Anyone have more historical research, perhaps from the historical society about New prov? Im thinking about goign ot the historical socitey one day but being sppleiud the info would be easier.--Larsinio 17:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Towne Deli 

message: In our articles of communities in the United States, the form of government is replacing the identity of the community. This is leading to problems identifying the true history of the places. The governmental form may change often and is not the community. The community may even change its name in from time to time, but it still is the same community. When an Indian village, site, or territory becomes a European settlement and increases in size through the differences that may be see in discussion of hamlet, village, town, or city -- it still is the same place with the same people, houses, and churches.  
Changing governmental form does not make the community disappear, it merely changes its governmental form. Adopting a new governmental form does not make the community disappear and a brand new one appear. A community continues to exist unless the site is abandoned. I think that our articles about these communities should reflect that continuity. Otherwise one receives the impression of a much shorter, and disjointed, history. 
Our articles fail to make this clear because there is a focus upon governmental systems for communities in the United States. There being no profound understanding of the local governmental systems in all countries, it does not seem to be a problem with our articles about communities in other countries.  
When a new governmental system (using township as an example) is abandoned by the separate communities that had been governed by it, but the areas that had been essentially uninhabited (or sparsely inhabited without communities), in the area governed by the township -- retain the governmental form and continue to grow themselves -- that is the beginning of some new communities. One may date the creation of these communities, most of which still exist. The new community, a township without any towns, typically, contains areas that had not been part of the communities that withdrew to return to smaller local government. 
That is the case with so many New Jersey townships that were abandoned as governmental forms by communities that wanted to return to the smaller local governmental oversight they enjoyed before becoming a part of the large governmental system of a township -- after that new form of government was created in the United States. 
Fierce and unnecessary arguments about this self-inflicted confusion have ensued in Wikipedia over this issue. Pride in the date of the earliest settlement of a community is almost universal. Affront at it being ignored is quite understandable. Correct and complete information should be our goal. Perhaps we can eliminate the confusion by discussing the communities as villages, towns, and cities "governed by a ...... system" and then discussing them as communities, simplify our United States articles, and avoid having to have multiple or absurd clarifying articles for the same communities. (I see articles referring to New Amsterdam, call it, "the City of New York", when that community was neither a city nor New York.)
Well, perhaps we can make changes in the way we create the articles, and realize that some sources are dealing only with governmental systems, not the cultural or local identity. Here is a stab at it. Sorry about the length of the discussion... 83d40m 17:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governmental form being misused as identity of places 

message: Is that correct?  I am fairly certain that at both Chen's and Jose's alcoholic beverages are served.JD Guyer 03:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-Dry? 

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message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I was walking around town and stumbled on the 9/11 memorial and how it was created in Flower Mound, Texas. After further research, it turns out that Flower Mound and New Providence are sister cities. The only source I could find is here SeizureSaladdd (talk) 02:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister City