Talk:Australia national football team

message: Why do you move it so much? --193.251.72.171 04:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not. This has already been canvased and rejected. Xtra 04:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

text: By who?  the Ozzie Rulez boyz? --202.47.49.74 05:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

text: 193.251, at least you have the excuse that you aren't Australian.
Le jeu s'appelle le "soccer" en Australie, juste comme il est au Québec également. Australian rules football et le Jeu de Treize sont le "football" en Australie. Grant65 | Talk 10:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Mais naturellement, l'"football" est seulement un surnom pour ces sports et le peuple qui l'emploient sait cela. s'il recherchait l'information dans une encyclopédie, ils rechercheraient l'expression correcte. AlbinoMonkey(in association with babelfish) (Talk) 12:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, "football" was the original name for all these games. It was only when rules started getting written down and disambiguation from other codes was needed that the different names sprang up — notice that most of them are geographic (Aussie rules, American football, Rugby is a town in England, etc etc etc). ～J.K. 08:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Non, « football » fut le nom original de tous ces jeux. C'était plus tard seulement, quand des réglements ont été écrits et il a fallu distinguer chaque réglement des autres, que les noms plus spécifiques ont apparu : remarquez que la plupart d'entre eux sont géographiques — Aussie rules ( « réglement australien » ), America(i)n football, Rugby est une ville anglaise, et ainsi de suite. ～J.K. 09:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read that football meant a game played on foot, as opposed to on horseback, if that makes any difference.  It does explain why games like rugby where the ball is mostly not kicked are still called football.  Regards, Ben Aveling 09:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ben, see football (word). Grant65 | Talk 09:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you were to go to an encyclopedia (even one printed in Victoria or WA) trying to find information about Aussie Rules, would you seriously look up football? 02:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When I was, oooh, six or so? Yes. ～J.K. 03:31, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia national football team belongs here 

message: I have resolved the discussion at RFD of this redirect (suggested 2005-12-03) as no consensus; the suggestion was out-of-process as no  tag was added to the article. Here is an archive of the discussion:
* Australia national football team → Australia national soccer team — See talk page. Soccer is the common name of the sport in Australia, and the word "football" usually refers to either Australian rules football or rugby league, depending on region. See football (word) and football (soccer) names for more details/support. The articles United States men's national soccer team, Canada men's national soccer team and New Zealand national soccer team have the names that they do for similar reasons. However one user insists on moving the page back to Australian national football team. Grant65 | Talk 04:12, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:RFD|RFD]] result

message: I've reverted to redirect to soccer, because the expression "national football team" is mainly used to refer to the soccer team.  Even though football can mean any code, "national football team" almost always means the soccer team.  Even if we ignored that, we already have a  perfectly good disambig page which we could redirect to.  This page should not be a copy of it.  Regards, Ben Aveling 11:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that we don't need a separate disambig page. I'm sure both rugby league and Australian rules supporters refer to their respective "national team" or "Australian team". If they don't say "national football team" it's because they are generally talking to people who know which game they're referring to. Another reason for this to be a disambig page is to educate non-Australians about usage of the word "football" in Australia. Grant65 | Talk 11:49, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Put it another way: if you're up for fixing all the links here that refer to the soccer team (and there are more than 100), and keeping a frequent eye on the Whatlinkshere page for the foreseeable future — which would be necessary to catch all the soccer-fan editors from overseas putting links to the Socceroos' page in the usual Wikipedia format without checking — then go ahead and put the disambig here. I don't think it's worth the bother when we can put one disambig link on top of Australia national soccer team, getting most people where they want to go in one click and everyone else in two or three. ～J.K. 08:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if someone is good enough to volunteer to do that work, the fact that it would need to be done is evidence that common usage is that "national football team" means Socceroos.  This doesn't mean we shouldn't use the word Soccer in Australian articles about soccer, even including articles about the Socceroos, just that the expression "national football team" means soccer.  Regards, Ben Aveling 09:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, It's evidence that people writing soccer articles are unaware of Australian usage of "football" and are using the standard format for the names of articles about national soccer teams. Grant65 | Talk 09:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. I get the impression that most people writing soccer articles here are either Brits, Irish, or non-native English speakers. ～J.K. 13:03, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it makes you exceptional. I do apologise, it was late and I left out the word "most" from the last sentence. ～J.K. 23:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why this page is about soccer

message: I've tagged the article as POV title for the same reason Australia national football team is tagged.  Australia has two national soccer teams, and by redirecting to one national team over another, a NPOV judgement call is being made. Please do not remove without discussion regarding how to resolve the the fact of Australia having two national soccer teams segregated based on gender. --LauraHale (talk) 19:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV tagging