Talk:Murder of Harvey and Jeannette Crewe

message: Thomas deserves a Wiki entry of his own. I'll add it to my to-do list if no one else moves first. Grimhim (talk) 23:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A bit late, but I'm not sure Thomas is independently notable, as per WP:CRIME: "A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person." (Cf. David Bain, who does not have a standalone biography – his name redirects to Bain family murders.) In any case, this article abruptly introduces Thomas's name by mentioning "A car axle linked to Arthur Allan Thomas..." with no proper explanation as to who he is. I have edited that sentence and added his name to the lede accordingly. --Muzilon (talk) 23:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Allan Thomas 

message: Have changed Jeannette's name to her legal name (as used by herself, family, friends) prior to her death.
Gadfium, thanks, I had changed the body of the text and was looking around for how to change the page title when you wrote that.  I'll put in a footnote about the journalistic use which became popular since her death.  Stephen AAGarrick (talk) 10:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs Crewe's Name 

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message: I think the lede and article is inappropriate tone and detail for BLP about Arthur Allan Thomas.The article is missing many facts about Demler and if you want to have them in the main section that is fine, but they are going in. Len Demler is dead so the fact he had been getting calls asking why the Crewes were not answering their phone since the evening of the 17th and he did not go there till the 22nd , he lived next door and was in a land dispute, the mysterious fires and burglary, and more than one person said he told them he owned a gun that could fire 22is are all fine. What is not fine is the tone and prominence of stuff about Thomas, who is a living person. Overagainst (talk) 22:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: The article was repetitively incomprehensible about the gun, and misleading about what Stott proved, and the sourced content is has too many irrelevant repetitive details from primary sources. I made it comprehensible, and consolidated it . There was never any suggestion that the bullet from a victim  had been proven to have been fired by any gun that was tested. The spent cartridge case was from Thomas's gun but it was too clean to have been lying in the garden (cops in 2014 review). Those are the points that need to be made.  The weight on extremely serious MATTERs and a living person repeat living person was inappropriate in places. I was never happy with this business about expert disagreeing as to whether whether she was "fed". The important point that the infant was cared for  at some point needs to be made. She was not fed (the police made much of this in the 2014 review). But that is not the point, the doctors caring for her were in agreement that she was certainly given fluids. Overagainst (talk) 21:53, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourced content reversions

message: " A car axle linked to Arthur Allan Thomas had apparently been used to weigh down Harvey's body and was central to police theories about the case. The axle was a significant item in evidence implicating Thomas that led to charges being laid against him."
This is incorrect, the axle implicated him certainly but it was most certainly not sufficient to have charged him, as the findings Royal Commission on the case made perfectly clear. The falsified evidence of the spent cartridge case at the scene of the crime led to Thomas being tried, and the finding was that when the faked cartridge case was subtracted from the prosecution case, what remained constituted  insufficient evidence to prosecute Thomas for the murders. Arthur Allan Thomas is a living person so its contrary to  BLP too. Overagainst (talk) 22:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Car axle as leading to Thomas beingCharged