Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics/Archive 30

message: Hello,
As I've posted on this talk page before, I spend some time helping out with the dead-end pages project, and it appears that there are a number of pages on India-related topics listed there which could use the attention of some editors more familiar with that country/culture/etc.  Some of these may need cleanup and improvement, others may merit deletion.  I'll start with the C's, and continue later with other letters of the alphabet:
*Chakravakam
*Chalunka
*Chanakya (TV series)
*<S>Chandi Mandir</S>donexC | ☎  08:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A number of articles which could use a look 

message: Please have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Travancore. I nominated it, considering past history of the creator in creating hoax or self-promotion article. However, I would encourage advice whether this article could be reformed into something useful. --Soman (talk) 10:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central Travancore 

message: I found this page while on WP:CLEANUP duty. I thought I'd send it over here to see if anyone in this Wikiproject has a better idea of how to clean it up. Manning (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cleaned up Kugur a bit. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kugur]] 

message: I could use a bit of help with the pages :Ramakkalmade and :Ramakkalmedu, which I came across while working on the Dead end pages project.
Except for the name, the articles are identical. Are these two different places and an editor saved a bit of time by copying the text? Or are these two different spellings / transcriptions of the same place, meaning one article should become a redirect.
Thanks for any help! --Fabrictramp (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Ganeshk, for straightening out the articles.--Fabrictramp (talk) 23:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. Thanks for posting here. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help on two pages 

message: I have some good news to report. All of the articles on the Ganeshbot/Not created page have been merged to the article namespace. Thanks to all who volunteered with the project. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 05:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Congrats to everyone who worked to get this done...!! The Silent Contributor (talk) 10:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ganeshbot article merge is complete 

message: The pages L Aravind, L. Aravind and User:Jivarahasya all seem to redirect to each other. I am not an Indian expert so I don't know what but what L. Aravind is but there seems to be something strange going on here! Can anyone help? Harland1 t/c 17:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect 

message: I started a Chennai workgroup to focus on improving Chennai-related articles, suburbs, landmarks, transport etc. If interested, please join in and help out. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 06:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:CHENNAI|Chennai workgroup]] 

message: I just decided Sachin Tendulkar should be an FA. I've done quite a bit of work on the article recently, but I was hoping someone with experience in writing an FA could help me because the article's loaded with unnecessary information and personal views and referring to people by first names etc. Thnaks. Darrowen (talk) 05:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sachin Tendulkar 

message: Please see here for an outline of "Wikipedia's Kamboja problem". Anyone wishing to tackle this is most welcome to it... dab (𒁳) 17:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamboja 

message: Debate reemerges at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 December 13#Category:Pakistani people of World War II. Please contribute to the discussion. As noted on this talk page before, I oppose driving an iron wedge between pre-1947 and post-1947 India. --Soman (talk) 17:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Indians, pre-1947 Pakistanis, ancient Bangladesh... 

message: Friends, there have repeatedly been attempts to delete Indian playback singer Anuradha Sriram. I dont understand this bias amongst the editors towards India-specific articles. I've alread provided the references and this article is quite good. I want your help in contesting the delete.Thanks --Rustam 07:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anuradha Sriram]] 

message: Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_December_15#Anti-Christian_violence_in_India. Please help the discussion as to whether this kind of religious forking should be present.Bakaman 23:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fork? 

message: * Great Eastern Hotel - 
* Manesar
;Billiards players
* Ashok Shandilya - 
* Michael Ferreira - 
* T. A. Selvaraj
* Subhash Aggarwal
Noticed some important sports people without an article. If anyone has the time, please could this be populated? Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 03:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important missing articles 

message: Template_talk:WP_India#Portal link. —Random832 17:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  portal link in template? 

message: The following new articles have been created:
* List of Indian states ranked by population density
* List of Indian states ranked by fertility rate
* List of Indian states ranked by literacy rate
* List of Indian states ranked by households having electricity
* List of Indian states ranked by household size
* List of Indian states ranked by vaccination coverage
* List of Indian states ranked in order of television ownership
* List of Indian states ranked by media exposure
These pages seem to stray into the "NOT a collection of indiscriminate lists" category. Perhaps the more notable ones could be placed on one page, but even then I think it would be a stretch. I have not AFD these pages as yet, tho I am seriously considering it. - BillCJ (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New list articles 

message: Could someone please look at the article on Naresh Sonee? When I searched for references to him in English, I found self-published articles and poems on the web, but nothing else to suggest notability. His article and the one on his book, which I have put an AfD on, both make claims to notability, butthere are either no refrences or the references are not from reliable secondary sources. I am particularly concerned about this because the (English) items of his work that I have read have seemed both poorly reasoned and written. However, I really need help form someone with knowledge of India and things Indian, because of my own ignorance about such things. Anarchia (talk) 04:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty, pretty please could someone check out Naresh Sonee's article and the article on his book Brhmaand Pujan, and write something on the talk pages or the article for deletion pages. I am unacceptably POV about this (everything I have read that has been written by the author of the article makes me feel ill, and I find Naresh Sonee's work similarly repugnant - atrociously argued with very poor English langauge skills), and, as I said above, almost as ignorant of India and its people as one can be. I am going to stay out of the debate now, but a glance at the above articvles will show you that something needs to be done, whether tidy up or deletion. Anarchia (talk) 20:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second Anarchia's request.  We really need some people who are more knowledgeable about India and with Hindi sources to evaluate these articles. They need help, definitely. Aleta (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Naresh Sonee]] 

message: please have a say at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28people%29#Initials. --Soman (talk) 11:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  re South Indian names and initials 

message: Hello! By special request of User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back and User:BorgQueen, I've started the Indian wine article. It is in a very rough, early state and I would greatly appreciate any help from the India project in developing it further. Anything from fact checking to images to expansion would be wonderful, especially from a project with such a great track record in producing FAs. Thanks! AgneCheese/Wine 19:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Indian wine]] 

message: "The Internet is all set to become the preferred platform for service delivery. Ever since Wikipedia democratised the process of knowledge sharing, collaboration has become the buzzword."Dilip Dhanuka, senior vice-president and head of product and technology initiatives, Patni Computer Systems.
Mahitgar (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  VP PCS praises  Wikipedia 

message: I would like to draw attention to a particular line in Shahrukh Khan. It reads, "Khan's family is Muslim, and he was raised by Hindus for most of his life.[3]" The reference given is this, which is an interview and indeed SRK says that he was raised by Hindus for most of his life.
My question is this - why do we need to know the religion of the people who raised him? Khan was a Hindu, but was raised by Hindus for most of his life. How is that information necessary in a biography? Its like stating "Eminem is a white rapper, and most of his colleagues are black." in an article about Eminem. Or like stating "Rakesh Roshan is bald, and most of his colleagues have hair." How is it relevant? Why do we need to have the religion of the people who have raised him in the article?
I propose dropping that part and leaving it to the relevant portion,"Khan was born into a Muslim family."
xC | ☎  07:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Religion is a major identifying characteristic of groups of people, unlike baldness. There are no "bald samaj"'s running around in the country. The false analogies provided do nothing do answer the fact that religion is a defining factor of a person, in fact possibly the defining factor.Bakaman 23:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Bakasuprman has a point here. It is like this: Bhadani is a Hindu but he was educated in schools run by Roman Catholics. Is this statement unusual? It may be unusual though I am not sure. --Bhadani (talk) 04:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

text: If "Bhadani" passed WP:NN, it probably would merit a mention in an "early life" section. As I stated above, religion is extremely relevant and notable in India.Bakaman 04:47, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion of the people who have raised a celebrity 

message: A vast information about Indian highways lie unorganized and is not properly shown by using infoboxes, templates and images. We shall start a project titled, Indian Highways to improve quality of articles relating to Indian highways. - Manik (talk) 10:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian highways project 

message: I sure hope this is the right project. Would someone be willing to look at Anjarle - Anjarla and see what can be done with it? It was on my watchlist, because the author originally created a near-empty page, but later added content. It's still very confusing to me, but the author removed the cleanup/confusing tags. I'm grossly ignorant on this topic, and would not even know where to begin. Thanks Yngvarr 10:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned it up a bit. The history section needs work though. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 04:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's great, thank you. Gives a much clearer context. Yngvarr 11:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anjarle - Anjarla]] 

message: Is there a way to pull out the list of audio recordings for wikipedia pages related to India? Any suggestions admins can provide? Thanks Arunram (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A bot could probably do that. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoken Wikipedia 

message: There is a proposal to merge a new article, Karnataka/Carnatic music, into Music of Karnataka. There is no consensus at this point and input from people knowledgeable in the subject area and Wikipedia policy would be helpful. See the discussion at Talk:Music of Karnataka#Merge proposal. ✤ JonHarder talk 13:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My comments. --Bhadani (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Bhadani has misunderstood the issue, which does not really involve either Carnatic music or music of Karnataka - nobody is arguing that they should be merged. The issue is the incomprehensible mess at Karnataka/Carnatic music; at this point, I don't think I really support any merge, as there is no coherent content to use at Karnataka/Carnatic music, no matter what it's purported subject is. There's one user who very much doesn't seem to understand what's happening (there's a language barrier), and isn't able to explain what that article is supposed to be about. If anyone could help communicate, it would be most appreciated. Tuf-Kat (talk) 06:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music of Karnataka 

message: I was User:Librorum Prohibitorum. I had disputes mainly with two editors (Administrator Dbachmann, and Hornplease). Now the admin  has blocked me indefinitely, claiming I was a Hkelkar sock without any evidence at all. He has done this witout even leaving a message or explanation somewhere. If you look at , I don't edit the same articles. In my last edit I was writing something positive about Jews. This is the only reason that I can think of that someone would think that I am Hkelkar. Picaroon (or the editor who asked him to do this) thinks that every Hindu editor who says something positive about Jews must be a Hkelkar sock (Hkelkar was a Hindu-Jewish editor). This is a grave Adminstrator abuse. Librorum Prohibitorum2 (talk) 15:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indians who make pro-Jewish edits will get blocked indefinitely 

message: A warm, fun-filled, informative Happy New Year to you all!!! May this year give you the best and bring out the best in you. The Silent Contributor (talk) 08:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy New Year to all and hope for a better Year. Amartyabag  TALK2ME 09:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Happy New Year to everybody 

message: Why there is no  newsletter of WikiProject India since March 2007?? Can any one revive its old glory and make this newsletter a regular monthly issue.Amartyabag  TALK2ME 09:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newsletter 

message: I need help of YOU ONE or few
Happy New year
Pls help me to circulate this appeal- 
if any body/ or few  of You brillaiants who reside in North India can tell me about newspapers in India like Punjab Kesari, Dainik Bhaskar , Rajasthan Patrika ? Their circulation or popularity . & if any body of you know Hindi. or interested to explore different/ all or specific religion , philosophy , poetry etc . I want your help to translate some few 50 line of Hindi to English. Pls. Gift your name to me  on my talk page please  Regards - --Dralansun (talk) 15:41, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hi there ONE, or every body of YOU 

message: Hi everyone, hope you are all enjoying the cricket today.  I have removed a speedy tag from the above article but I have no idea on its notability, importance or otherwise.  If someone from this WikiProject could take a look and see if a decent article could be made from it, it would be much appreciated. -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Karadiya Rajputs]] 

message: Greetings. A new project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh has been created. If you are interested in contributing, please add you name to the list located here. With regards, AnupamTalk 08:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh 

message: Another new project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Hindustani and allied languages has been created. If you are interested in contributing, please add you name to the list located here. Maquahuitl (talk) 20:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:WikiProject Hindustani and allied languages 

message: I want someone to help me with this template on the Maratha Empire: Template:MarathaEmpire. I started creating this template and completely messed it up. --Rustam 14:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are two templates - Template:MarathaEmpire and Template:Maratha Empire. I hope it does not create a confusion. - P.K.Niyogi (talk) 11:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Maratha Empire]] 

message: Is it accurate to have a redirect from 'Red Terror (India)' to Nandigram violence? Discussion going on at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 January 9‎. --Soman (talk) 14:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red terror in India!? 

message: I came across List of schools by country and found India page was missing. So I created List of schools in India. Now I need content neatly catagorized by states. I am not sure but 'Category: Education in India' can help a lot in this matter. This is the place I kind of slow down. I can collect lot of content by I don't really know how to create categories. Most cities I monitor had a long list of schools so I had broken the sections into seperate pages. Please suggest how to go forward in the correct way since Im new to wikipedia. Thanks. thevikas (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schools in INDIA 

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thread_title:  Slightly off topic: MediaWiki localisation for languages from India 

message: Hi there, 
Somebody inserted British Flag next to his birth country, India. I don't agree with this and I am sure everybody will do the same.
There are number of pages on the Wikipedia for number of prominent people, which do not have any such flags, particularly the flags of the countries which occupied/ruled at that time.
Manay Thanks
Jagan kommareddy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.213.138 (talk) 14:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the links to flags: Taking a cue from this page. --Bhadani (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If Wikipedia follows this tradition of displaying the flags of country of birth depending on the the-then rulers than probably most of the current Prime Ministers and Presidents of European countries will have the Nazi flags decorating their pages on Wikipedia! --Bhadani (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

text: My reply. --Bhadani (talk) 18:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And, by the way, no one should experiment with displaying British Flag at the same place in George Washington's's page as the discussion will last for long, and most probably the British Flag may not be acceptable for which some sort of consensus shall emerge which may not be based on facts! --Bhadani (talk) 18:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The matter is over as far as I am concerned - I got a new friend wiki-way in the process. --Bhadani (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Agree with Priyanath. Flags should not be used for birth/date years. --Ragib (talk) 07:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subhas Chandra Bose 

message: I would encourage all readers of this page to join in the discussion at Talk:Caste system among Indian Christians, where there is a heated debate over inclusions of material.Bakaman 21:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  request for input 

message: I've been looking over some of the caste articles (particularly beginning with Nadar (caste)) and there seem to be a huge amount of them - and they are all largely unsourced and POV. Has this project formed any plans for a sweep of these articles at some point? Avruchtalk 19:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That’s why I am peeling off Sri Lanka related caste articles separately see Vellalar (Sri Lankan Tamil), Vanniar (Sri Lanka). This is just the beginning, when I have the time I will have a separate set for SL because Indian castes articles are never stable because of the huge amount of interest in projecting a positive and very high credentials. Taprobanus (talk) 18:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is extremely difficult to prune those articles back or delete them. I think a coordinated effort might actually work. Relata refero (talk) 10:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castes 

message: I am reviewing Economic development in India as a "Good article" candidate. Can the folk of your Wikiproject clarify a few issues here please? Axl (talk) 09:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Good article" candidate: [[Economic development in India]]