Talk:Expansion team

message: should the Washington Nationals be included here? They were merely a relocation of the Montreal Expos, rather than a new team to the league.
I concur. If someone wants to have a list, rename it some to the likes of "Most Recent Expansions" and list a few teams with first season. EX Charlotte Bobcats 2004-05, NHL Minnesota Wild and Colomus BlueJackets (2000-01). ccwaters 02:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not officially. As part of the deal that brought back the Browns, the official status is the Ravens are an expansion team from 1996, while the browns never moved. The franchise was suspended for three years, but officially it is the same team with all the old stats and records.--oknazevad 17:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just feel good marketing. See Talk:Ottawa_Senators#Old vs New for similar situations. ccwaters 21:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel good marketing or not, it's the official word from the NFL. Even though I personally agree with you Gialloneri (talk) 09:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Regarding the text that says the Sharks are actually a re-activation of the California/Oakland Seals - is there any official reference to this? While I've heard of this line of thinking before so won't discount its legitimacy or remove it, I've never seen any official reference to this being the case from the NHL or the Sharks organization itself? Gialloneri (talk) 09:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: San Jose Sharks

message: There are some cases where expansion teams go into cities which already have teams.  Cases in point: the New York Mets, the Los Angeles Angels, and the New York Islanders.  Maybe the term just means the size of the league is growing.  Timothy Horrigan (talk) 02:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Expansion" because the league is "expanding" into new cities?

message: Of the Australian leagues listed, only one is a true major league, i.e., the Australian Football League.  The others are minor leagues in the sense that the top-level competition in their sports takes place elsewhere.  And as much I personally enjoy watching Aussie Rules Football when I find ot on American TV, it is not really a major spectator sport worldwide.  It seems to me that the list would be more coherent if it was limited to the five major team sports in North America (although even then it is hard to decide which soccer leagues qualify as major.. there were top-level American soccer leagues which flourished briefly and died in the 1920/1930s and 1970s before today's Major League Soccer was founded. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 05:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Should we limit the number of leagues?

message: I totally disagree with the inclusion of teams that move from one city to another as "expansion" teams.  Expansion is defined as an increase in the total number of teams in the league by including new teams that start from scratch.  This results in dilution of the talent across the league and can have serious consequences.  Conversely, "contraction" is the elimination of teams from a league. KyuzoGator (talk) 14:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teams that move are NOT Expansion Teams! 

message: Listing by year is a bit messy. I think a listing by sport first and year second would look better - allowing team colours, and would be easier to follow. As an example, check the Relocation of professional sports teams page.  Mdw0 (talk) 08:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganisation of the list 

message: This is mostly due to Wellington Phoenix being on the list; what do people think about a club that was an unplanned replacement for a dissolved club being counted as an expansion club? The Frederick (talk) 07:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement team =/= Expansion team 

message: This article really only covers North American sports ( I am not familiar enough with Australian leagues to comment on them ). I am not sure that the reference to European Rugby Super Leaugue is relevent, as I understand the term "expansion team", since all of those teams pre-dated the league itself.. The only change was that teams from more countries can qualify for the league, no new teams were created. 95.223.119.15 (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too North American Centric?? 

message: Possibly cricket is too far from most Wikipedians knowledge but that cricket league might well be relvent to this article. 95.223.119.15 (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian Premier League 

message: This article is a bit of a pig pile these days - many leagues across many sports and many locations. Does anyone have any clever ideas about how it should be organized? Should it be split into several articles, based on some combination of sport and location? For example, a separate article for "Expansion teams in Australian professional sports leagues", and another one for "Expansion teams in North American professional sports leagues", etc.? This page could then become something like a disambiguation page, with links to the various pages. Or, perhaps if the sections were rearranged and the table of contents was better organized (and a lot less detailed), this page could stay as is. Rks13 (talk) 16:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I'm going to re-format the page by removing sub-headings in preference of a list format. For instance, the last few entries in the NFL:
*1995: Panthers, Jaguars
*1996: Ravens (plus explanation)
*2002: Texans
Much more efficient. Simplebutpowerful 01:31, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

text: I've re-formatted the article as demonstrated above. If anyone has suggestions for improvement, I'm definitely open to it; preferably, let's discuss them and come to consensus so that we're clear on how we're going to organize the page. Simplebutpowerful 17:06, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization 

message: I think this article should be split into lists per continent (for now, although per country may be needed in the future), because the list is long and will obviously get longer when more missing items are added. Any thoughts? 123.208.18.144 (talk) 10:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate lists?