Talk:Martín Alonso Pinzón

message: Several Muslim websites I have seen allege that the Pinzon brothers were Muslim.  None give any basis for that claim.  It seems odd given Spain's antagonism towards Muslims; one purpose of Columbus' voyage was to finance a new crusade against Muslims.  On the other hand, I know some Muslims group refuse to recognize any apostasy.  Were the Pinzons conversos?  Has anyone ever heard of any basis for a claim that they were Muslim?    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.148.21.9 (talk) 19:29, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholic? 

message: Your article makes many claims of stolen glory and of the great skill of the Pinzon brothers.  However, the lack of references leads me to question the validity of these conclusions.  Could you please point me toward some sources on the topic?- Shoe1127 21:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that with my recent edits, this issue should be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. - Jmabel | Talk 21:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of references 

message: Alonzo is a quite typical Latin American misspelling that have reached to English speakers. In Spanish Alonzo and Alonso are pronounced in different way (Alonzo is pronounced "Alontho", th like in "thin"). The correct pronunciation is "Alonso" therefore the correct spelling is Alonso. This kind of misspelling are quite common in Latin American Spanish due the have merged the sounds 'c' and 'z' with 's', but in a pure Castilian Spanish this sounds are kept in the original way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.125.22.213 (talk) 14:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  it's Alonso not Alonzo 

message: The Catholic 1913 has it as,
:The monarch refusing to receive anyone but the admiral, Pinzón sailed for Palos, which he reached on the same day as Columbus (15 March, 1493). Setting out immediately for Madrid to make a fresh attempt to see the king, he was met by a messenger who forbade him to appear at court. Anger and jealousy, added to the privations of the voyage, undermined his health, and led to his death a few months later.
(my bold). It is thus impossible for the date of "March" which is used across all the Wikipedia language versions to be true. What is it ?. November has been used before but I'd like a cite. It certainly doesn't look like March. Ttiotsw (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Edited accordingly (being less specific), though I'm not sure how much I trust that source on this or any other matter. It's pretty obvious that Kennedy has a strong animus Pinzón (though for this particular fact I suppose that's irrelevant). - Jmabel | Talk 21:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I'd really like to see an additional independent citation on this, if anyone has one. - Jmabel | Talk 23:38, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Month of Death inconsistent with references. 

message: There is something like
"
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in the document. --80.139.98.112 (talk) 12:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Document Broken? 

message: I'm in the midst of the requested translation from Spanish. I'm drawing both from the corresponding Spanish language article and from the overlapping, better-cited :es:Hermanos Pinzón. Taking a break for the night right now, but I believe I should complete it in the next day or so. - Jmabel | Talk 05:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation from es-wiki in progress 

message: I removed the claim (from the Spanish article) that the land Pinzón discovered while separated from Columbus may have been Puerto Rico. I can find no citation for this in any reliable source; if someone has a reliable source, please feel free to re-add with citation. I have reduced the statement simply to the fact that scholars disagree about the island geography of the first voyage and cited one reliable source that conjectures that the land was Haiti. - Jmabel | Talk 18:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puerto Rico 

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