Talk:Towel Day/Archive

message: copy JUST the Hitchhiker's article about the towel into Wikipedia? Would that be fair use, or would that be infringement upon copyright laws? 207.65.110.30 11:48, 8 Jun 2005
::It would be fair use (being a quote, after all) as long as proper credit is given.  Wikiquote has what the Guide says about towels on its wikiquote:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page. Ben Babcock 15:52, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  fair use 

message: The lined h2g2 piece says "last Friday; 25 May this year".  Did it actually settle on the numbered day?  --Baylink
::Afaik one reason for choosing 25 May was that it is the last day in the year, where the number of the day is the square of the number of the month - perfect Hithhiker's logic. Can anyone confirm this? Weulitus 17:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is indeed May 25th, not the last friday of May. It was chosen because it is two weeks after DNA's death, giving time to get the word out. I don't see what squares have to do with Hitchhikers. ;) --QuicksilverJohny 00:43, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And as a little trivial but very significant fact unto the hitchhikerkind: it will be on a Thursday. DrWho42 00:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  25 May or last Friday? 

message: Are those towels displayed in Innsbruck, or are they just printed with Innsbruck's GPS coordinates? Omphaloscope » talk 16:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were displayed in Innsbruck on Towel Day 2005. --Dr. Zarkov 23:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo caption - Innsbruck 

message: Even though it provides the fact that there's actually people participating (in which I am in-amongst..), do we really think it be some necessary for this page? It's slightly bias to simply upload an image of yourself and give recognition thereto, but that's my piece of the Hagra biscuit... DrWho42 13:41, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I thought this over some (briefly, actually..), but for those not in favour of keeping the image thereon: how about construct a library of Towel Day participants in the same manner of which Wikipedia's Facebook operates. With prior permission from the Towel Day site, of course... DrWho42 23:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You would have to contact each participant personally to ask for permission to use their image. Lots of work, not the least for me, who have (through my Outlook Express database) the only connection from each picture on the 2004 and 2005 image listings to it's copyright properiator. --KOJV 21:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Image 

message: Hi,
i'm a writer from the german wikipedia. We want to enforce a stroke "don't panic" on our main page for May 25th as a witty invitation to join wikipedia as a writer. It would give us great pleasure if there were some writers in the english wikipedia to pursue the same aim. --84.58.201.198 01:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Don't Panic" on Main Page 

message: This term . For some reason, if a strag [non-hitch hiker] discovers that a hitchhiker has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in possession of a toothbrush, face flannel, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet weather gear, space suit etc., etc.  links to the notable sayings/phrases page but that page doesn't have it defined. I am not enough of a fan to fix it myself or I would. ++Lar: t/c 14:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seem'd to be decided that sometime back that that list should primarily concern itself with phrases from the "trilogy" that are noteworthy enough that they've actually been used outside the series.. Personally, I think "strag" is quite a noteworthy enough term to differentiate from the froods and other people, but you can discuss it on the Talk page or otherwise write up a stub of an article that can be listed on List of miscellaneous elements in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
That should be a fitting home for it. DrWho42 22:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: strag

message: What kind of towel should I bring? Is there a recommended kind? A hand towel? A bath towel? beach towel? dish towel? etc??--Sonjaaa 22:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try following the link in the bottom of the article and check out the pictures linked from there. Hope this helps. Also try to read the description given in the H2G2 and cited in this Wikipedia article in order to learn what everything can be a towel used for. If your piece of cloth fulfills all these needs, I guess it is worth being called a hitchhiker's towel and theres should be no problem wearing it for the day. Blahma 23:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: A prefer a not too large striped towel, for the traditional look. It also goes very well with the stripes on my tie. --Dr. Zarkov 23:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: help...what kind

message: :Other possible dates were 11 February (42nd day of the year), 11 March (Birthday), 11 May (his death),2 April (4/2), and 18 October (42nd Thursday of his year of death).
We really could do with some referencing with these, especially for the latter bits. DrWho42 00:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that's more than coincidence. Like the famous DNA quote "Noone writes jokes in Base 13" ^^ --SoWhy Talk 22:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other possible dates[?] 

message: Would someone please explain to me how this article isn't 100% fancruft?  It's clearly a made up holiday with very weak sources.  Rklawton 05:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stupid Day, which was made over 2 years ago, for an even less notable holiday, but also included Towel Day. Stupid Day was deleted, Towel Day was kept. JIP | Talk 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the heads up!  Rklawton 19:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD

message: Happy Birthday	from the Birthday Committee
	
Wishing  a very happy birthday on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake!	
Wishing  a very happy birthday on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake!
	              	
Politics rule 11:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Happy Birthday

message: *Why was this marked as requiring cleanup? I mean, it's not up to the standards, but whoever tagged it, could you be more specific because I'd really like to improve it! Thanks! makeyourself 08:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I tagged the article with  as it does not currently make any claim, or establish why, it is notable. In fact, it doesn't appear to achieve any verifiability, which is entirely contrary to policy. It may be a fun topic and a fun article, but that is unfortunately not sufficient. - Tiswas(t) 16:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is notable. Towel Day is celebrated by many fans around the world, for example the German blogosphere is full of tributes, as well as pages like technorati with more than 100,000 posts about the topic. I think that should cover the "Significant coverage" guideline in WP:NOT. --SoWhy Talk 17:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Big numbers aren't necessarily relevant outwith the sphere of reliable sources - Even then, the number if magnitudes smaller when the exact phrase is searched ("towel day" OR towelday yields 1,600 posts on blogs - many of which are dupes). If it is, as you claim, so celebrated, there must surely be coverage in the mainstream media. - Tiswas(t) 17:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As an aside, this article appears in 16 languages.  I've asked at :de:Towel Day for additional print sources as well.  I thought this article had survived AfD once before, but I can't seem to find the discussion.  ∴ here…♠ 17:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It survived a joint afd that did little to discuss the notability, or adherence to policy. Needless to say, notabililty is not inherited, per se, from other wikis on the subject. - Tiswas(t) 18:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Might you have a link to this discussion -- it should be linked prominently here.  ∴ here…♠ 22:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's the link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stupid Day - No discussion, just voting - Tiswas(t) 22:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's being discussed because none of these credible, independent and reliable sources are referenced in the article. - Tiswas(t) 18:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Additionally, the notability of Adams is not in question.  - Tiswas(t) 18:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see the article kept, but I must point out that none of those provided sources are considered reliable sources.  All are user-editable and/or without oversight or wide recognition/publication.  The answers.com "source" is just a copy of this very article.  The USA today source added to the article looks good, .  ∴ here…♠ 19:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is notable. It is recognised by the BBC, which can certainly be considered a good source. Admittedly, it is mostly blogs, but this doesn't look like a bad source, and this counts for something. USA Today recognises it, and I KNOW there will be more, I just can't find it in the multitude of blogs. Google news search also threw up some foreign language results. J Milburn 20:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The supposed BBC source is from h2g2, a wiki project emulating Douglas Adam's hitchhiker's guide, completely unreliable.  The Associated Content article is user submitted and checked for basic grammer and money-making-potential, roughly equiv. to a blog post.  The thomasnet source is a brief quote from the h2g2 article.  Leaving the USA today source, which appears to the sole reliable published mention of this term yet found.  Keep 'em coming(!)  I would like to agree that this is notable, we may need to use foreign language sources.  ;)  ∴ here…♠ 22:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The first was addressed above and essentially a blog post, and the second is an offhand mention on a t-shirt sales page.  Unfortunately, neither of these are considered reliable sources by the community ;).  ∴ here…♠ 01:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Here's a problem symptomatic of the lack of sources - Additions by Drappel. I can only assume that this is an attempt to highlight the importance of towel day, whereas all it does is to synthesise a tenuous link between the day trivial mentions of towels in the news. The article is starting to look moew like an essay on towels in the H2G2 universe, and not an article about a derivative holiday. - Tiswas(t) 12:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: #The extended quote is far too long (roughly 1/2 the article). Yeah, maybe a quote from the posting, but the whole thing?
#The link to the source is cobwebbed. As it was a link to a "reprint" (?), a wayback link seems "off" to me. Does "anyone" have the (now dead) URL for the original posting so we can put a wayback to the original up?
#"[reprinted here with permission]" Er, I guess that applied to the "reprint"? If it was meant to be permission for wikipedia, we don't need it (for fair use)/can't use it (any other circumstance) for text.
Mdbrownmsw 20:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin