Talk:Severn Bridge

message: I deleted the following inaccurate and confusing text from the lead:
:Although the Severn Bridge can only be used for crossing between England and Wales, it is located wholly within England. This is because the "Welsh" end of the bridge itself is located above the Beachley peninsula, which modern boundaries place in England. The border with Wales bisects the Wye bridge, slightly further north along the route. The ancient Offa's Dyke placed the Beachley peninsula in Wales.
The article makes clear that the "Severn Bridge" as defined here includes the Wye Bridge - so the fact that it is the Wye bridge part of the structure which crosses the England-Wales border is not relevant - the entire structure does indeed cross from Wales to England (or vice versa). Also, the Beachley peninsula has in fact never been part of Wales, simply because neither England nor Wales existed at the time (up to about the 8th century) when the peninsula was indeed part of the Kingdom of Gwent (which is not the same as "Wales").  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: England - Wales border

message: Per this edit, were both bridges again closed simultaneously due to ice in December? I first thought they were (on the day), but reverted my own edit shortly afterwards, as it seemed that the M48 had been re-opened before the M4, so they were never both closed simultaneously. The BBC ref added today is unclear - we know both closed, we know both closed on the same day, but was it ever so bad to close both together (i.e. cutting England off entirely). Andy Dingley (talk) 14:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ice closures in December 2009? 

message: The article being about the whole crossing not just the suspension bridge component needs to be made clearer in the intro. Thoughts? Rsloch (talk) 10:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bridges 

message: The Wikipedia link that brought me to this page was saying that there were a lot of suicides from this bridge but this isn't even noted in the article. Unless this entry is written by the local Chamber of Commerce, I think this fact, if true, should be mentioned. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 14:16, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There have been a few, and one just recently (car driver, Second Severn Crossing).  However I don't believe they're that common. It's a fair old walk to get there, even from Chepstow, and there are nearer high bridges to save the effort. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:35, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Suicides? 

message: Is it worth mentioning the 50th anniversary, which was yesterday? The BBC has a page about the history and vintage cars. Their video about the history is only available for 28 days (& possibly only in UK).— Rod talk 07:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  50th anniversary 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: On this, as well as the Second Severn Crossing article, it only mentions that the toll charges are to be halved.  But they don't mention that the government subsequently (in July) announced that they are to abolish the charge completely (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40671900).  Any chance of someone with better skills and knowledge being able to update this and the other article? Smoothy (talk) 15:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones  (The Welsh Buzzard) 13:34, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tolls to be abolished? 

message: Before I actually suggest a change in name, I thought I would ask what people thought as this was last discussed 11 years ago! 
Surely this article should be called the "Severn Crossing" and as stated in the article the "Severn Bridge" is one of the four components of the crossing. I just think that the change would avoid any confusion. 
I know there is a "Severn crossing" article but I would suggest that could be merged into "List of crossings of the River Severn" and maybe renamed "Crossings of the River Severn".
Mark999 (talk) 01:31, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know and remember it has been called the Severn Bridge all of its existence. The term "crossing" is a recent devlopment in bridge naming. Per WP:Recentism we should keep the common name by which it has known for most of its existence. It was a revolutionary design in terms of deck profile and angled stay wires for stability and deserves to have its own article under the traditional name.Charles (talk) 10:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

text: I agree with .  We go with WP:COMMONNAME, and I believe that most sources still describe it as the Severn Bridge (even though it crosses the Wye as well).   Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:27, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

text: I too agree with . The term  "Severn crossing" is how the newer M4 bridge is styled in most conversations. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:52, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

text: The name is also an example of synecdoche, as the "Severn Bridge" can refer to the suspension bridge section alone, or far more commonly as the entire crossing of the M48. But only real bridge anoraks know that the Severn Bridge only goes as far as England, not Wales. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:26, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name?? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: …were hardly revolutionary in 1966, except, perhaps, for suspension bridges. Qwirkle (talk) 14:21, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the disputed statement. Dormskirk (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclined hangers….