Talk:Kingdom of Gibraltar

message: I have re-tagged this article as being non-notable, its only reference is a nonexistent link and there are less than 10 non-wiki Google hits for the kingdom in question. If adequate references are provided, feel free to remove the tags, but for now its notability is dubious. Chris Buttigieg 12:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was created to prevent the constant vandalism on Juan Carlos I's article in its Titles section by one or more unregistered users (mainly from Gibraltar) which keep erasing the "King of Gibraltar" title from Juan Carlos I full titulary. Now "King of Gibraltar" in that article is linked to this article. --Maurice27 13:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may have misinterpreted my comment, all I was saying is that this article needed to be adequately referenced. Chris Buttigieg 13:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The pdf link isn't working because it contains a pair of square brackets with the URL. I will leave you to continue with the article and I'll have a look to see how it's coming along later. Chris Buttigieg 13:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The title needs to be seen in its correct historical significance, that 'Spain' was a collection of discrete kingdoms rather than a state, and that Gibraltar ceased to be under the control of the Spanish crown in 1704. --Gibnews 21:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: I see there remains no citation for the claim that the King of Spain still asserts that he is the 'King of Gibraltar' unless someone can provide one, I suggest that the wording is changed to reflect the historical context of this currently dubious claim. --Gibnews (talk) 00:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Providing they are authoritative and not simply echos of Wikipedia. I doubt he will make a state visit though. --Gibnews (talk) 09:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Geocities is hardly an authorative source - you can find any old nonsense there.  The other reference does not say that the title is in use after 1713 when the territory was ceeded to the UK.  There again its no more absurd than claiming to be king of Jerusalem. --Gibnews (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Or indeed King of France in the case of the British crown - a title they claimed until 1815, if I recall correctly. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Was that when the Germans took over?  However the the point is that prior to 1713 there was a King of Gibraltar - however since the territory was ceded to the British Crown, its debatable whether the title has any meaning or indeed that it is still in use.  Of the two references to support that, the first is a personal home page on Geocities which could say anything and the other simply mentions it in its historical context.  --Gibnews (talk) 22:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: King of Gibraltar

message: I removed the part which says that these territories were never part of the Spanish Crown from the lead because:
- Portugal: Philip II of Spain became King of Portugal when married his first spouse Maria Manuela of Portugal. His Successors, Philip III of Spain and Philip IV of Spain were also Kings of Portugal until December 1, 1640, when an uprising took place in Lisbon expelling King Philip IV of Spain (Philip III of Portugal) from the Portuguese throne.
-Jerusalem: This title comes from the Aragonese branch of the Spanish Monarchy. Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor (King of Jerusalem) married Constance of Aragon in 1209. In 1262, Peter III of Aragon married Frederick II's grand-daughter Constance of Sicily, Queen of Aragon. When the kingdom ended, the Spanish Monarchy became part of the [Aragonese Claimants]. Link. (Sorry for being from pink press, but it is quite acceptable). --MauritiusXXVII (Aut Disce, Aut Doce, Aut Discede!). 08:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom of Algarves and Kingdom of Jerusalem 

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