Template talk:Varsity Line RDT

message: Good work so far. I wondered whether you knew that you could work in an interesting link to this article    Britmax (talk) 20:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could try. It should also be noted in the main article. Simply south (talk) 22:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, i have added the moving telescope, to the left of the original route and left a note. Simply south (talk) 23:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Some other similar templates have roads. I don't know how major they have to be so I'm adding them here, then you can put them into the template as they are needed. I've listed all A roads and above, even though they may not be (and probably aren't) relevant. So, going East to West...
*A1301, over between West Anglia Mainline and M11
*A1309, over between West Anglia Mainline and M11
*A603, just to the West (towards Bedford) side of Lord's Bridge (level crossing?)
*A1198, just to the East (towards Cambridge) side of Old North Road (level?)
*A1, over at Girtford (not sure which side, but I think the station was to the East (towards Cambridge))
*Between Willington and the old Bedford St Johns:
**A421 (over)
**A603 (over)
**A600 (over)
*A6, over literally just south/west of new Bedford St Johns (Bletchley direction)
*A6, over between Midland Mainline and Kempston and Elstow (I think, not quite sure where K&E is)
*A421, over between Kempston & Elstow and Kempston Hardwick
*M1 Motorway, over between Ridgmont and Husbourne Crawley
*A5130, just to the east (towards Bedford) of Woburn Sands, level-crossing
*A5, over between Bow Brickhill and Fenny Stratford
I've only done Cambridge to Bletchley for now. SeveroTC 00:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for these i will get on them tomorrow\today. Simply south (talk) 02:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roads 

message: Rewley Road was literally next to the current Oxford railway station, just to he east. SeveroTC 00:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is good. Thank you for that and so i will correct this later. Simply south (talk) 02:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewley Road 

message: There's also a piece of trackbed branching off westerly after Oxford Road which connects to the Cotswold Line (crossing the Cherwell Valley Line on its way). Don't know if this is relevant! SeveroTC 01:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be relevant. I will add it tomorrow\today. Simply south (talk) 02:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1 more piece of trackbed 

message: When the - line closed, all the complex around Bletchley came out of routine use, apart from the Bletchley- line. (The Flyover has been used very intermittently in the 90s and 00s for binliner trains - but this is after the Varsity Line as such ceased operation, which is what the host article is about). So would someone who has better RDT drawing skills than I do please change to pink and move the stop marker accordingly? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:49, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disused track around Bletchley 

message: The hat note on the host artice (Varsity Line) for this template reads
By the end of the 1960s (apart from a couple of enthusiasts' specials), the entire line from Oxford to Cambridge was out of service and mothballed with the exception of the Bletchley-Bedford Marston Vale line. Therefore the entire line, except the Marston Vale section, should be shown in pink (disused). As the template stands today, the Oxford-Bicester line (reopened 1987) and the Aylesbury-Calvert line (via ) are shown incorrectly (IMO) as active. 
I would like to propose therefore that all these subsequent reactivations be removed and the whole line (except Marston Vale) be shown in pink and that the RDT have its own hat note that says that it reflects the status as at (say) 31/12/1967. Conversely it would be similarly invalid just to jump to Template:East West Rail as at 1/1/2020 [well, one may dream], as though nothing had happened in between these dates. So I propose also that the current version of the RDT be preserved with a new name (not Varsity line?) and a hat note saying that is as at 1/1/2000 or /2015, and given collapsed in the VL and EWR articles.
Comments? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:29, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you recall the details about previous discussions concerning portraying historic lines in the present day, and the specifics of what is shown and how? Useddenim (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The convention is that the RDTs show the current state of affairs. Mjroots (talk) 16:23, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely but the problem in this case is that the Varsity Line ceased to operate in 1967. So the current state of affairs is that is an historic line, just as much as (say) the Bedford–Northampton line. The route still exists and some has track, but what is there now is not the Varsity Line. To take a simple case, should the RDT show   (as it was then) or  as it is today? Similarly, HS2 will use a large section of the Great Central Main Line route: your logic would seem to mean that the RDT for the Great Central will have to be revised to show the track as in use? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: A good example of how to handle the situation can be found at the , which is titled Kensington to Richmond, subtitled London and South Western Railway, and footnoted . Useddenim (talk) 13:55, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that nobody has supported my purist proposal, I can accept that solution. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical consistency between this template and the host article: RFC 

message: If anyone is feeling enthusiastic or just stir crazy, Claydon LNE Junction needs adding. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:51, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claydon LNE Junction 

message: The chord connecting the modern Oxford-Bicester line to the Chiltern main line is entirely new, isn't? If so, then it is inaccurate to show a chord to the GWR Bicester cut-off line, is it not? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:52, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's new. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I the only one thinking that the RDTs for historical lines should show only the stations and infrastructure that existed during or at the end of their operation? So nothing after 1967 for the Varsity Line. See also template talk:Buckinghamshire Railway, same problem. Is it worth starting an RFC at UKRAIL? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But I see (above) that I have raised this question before and the consensus was to be anachronistic. So I'll drop it. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bicester chord