Talk:Melisma

message: Is Melisma Music Analyzer notable enough to include on this article? I'm inclined to remove because I don't particularly care about similarly named software programs when I'm reading an article about some other non-software topic. The most egregious example I've come across on WP is an instant message client named "pork". — Shadowhillway 02:42, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melisma Music Analyzer 

message: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6791133
Here's an interview with Anthony Heilbut (musician and author) on Melisma.  I figured someone could use it if they plan on expanding the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.32.197.178 (talk) 20:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another reference 

message: Is it really a good idea to list a bunch of pop/r&b artists who sing in melismatic fashion?  One might include just about anyone here.  In fact, it would be more instructive to consider contemporary artists who don't use it, as it is really more common than not.  I think this list needs to be removed or else it runs the risk of spinning out of control.  VectorPosse 05:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of artists 

message: I have now removed the arbitrary list of pop musicians. However, the article lacks sources. Whoever wrote this should at least cite some encyclopedia of music or whatever (s)he used. --Rsling 15:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I never got around to doing it myself.  (And I came to this article quite recently, so I have no idea about its origins other than what the history page tells me.) VectorPosse 09:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Any sources for the term 'vocal runs'? It seems more of a derogative term than anything else, and displays more of the author's opinion. I'll delete that term just now until someone comes up with a suitable source. MP
::Here is one: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6791133  
::68.107.83.19 (talk) 07:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Vocal run is not derogatory, and that kind of cultural ignorance (along with ridiculous statements like the one attributing the popularity of vocal runs to Mariah Carey) is why anything in Wikipedia concerning African Americans is dubious at best.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.238.31 (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Name 

message: To me (not a musician) a melisma seems like a cheap version of coloratura. Would be interesting if someone could discuss this. Metallion (talk) 23:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an interesting point.  I might disagree with the word "cheap", but there are large similarities between the two methods that would be helpful to spell out to the non-expert.  What I know, is that Handel generally wrote a lot of melismas while Rossini wrote a lot of coloratura.  The two composers' vocal styles do sound different to me, but it would really help if a vocal expert spelled out exactly what that difference is.  Thanks.  DavidRF (talk) 21:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coloratura relation 

message: A better example might be Adeste fideles, the carol "O come all ye faithful" - the last verse of this carol ("Sing, choirs of angels...") has a well-known harmony line.The melody is strictly syllabic, the harmony is strongly melismatic. The contrast between the two, if shown in sheet music form, would give a clear indication of the difference between the two styles. Grutness...wha? 11:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better example? 

message: On the listing of cultures that feature melisma in their music, "Asian music" is listed however I think this is too general a term (Asia is a very big continent), plus "Asian" overlaps with the listing of Arabic, "Middle Eastern" (another general term used too often by English-speakers) and also overlaps with Arabic), and Indian (which is politicized in Wikipedia; it should be "South Asian music" but there is no page). Any suggestions on changing the list? Xerces1492 (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Asian....as in?

message: I added a couple of examples from more modern music (specifically, Jethro Tull), but I suspect there are more examples in prog rock. I don't know if the "Yodeling" passage from Hocus Pocus's song "Focus" qualifies, but that's another possible example. 2602:306:CEC8:5760:74A6:C828:FDA0:9F3E (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melisma in Jethro Tull/Prog Rock? 

message: a very good example coming from modern music is Tori Amos' Crucify - I think the syllable chains in the chorus stretches on around 10 notes. somebody with better musicianship may make this into a paragraph  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.27.71.116 (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Another good example, in my mind, would be Aaron Neville. His singing on My Brother's Keeper and Yellow Moon (A Change is Gonna Come, Yellow Moon, Bird on a Wire, etc.), along with other recordings, evidence this "style". I hesitate to add his name to the short list in the article due to the concern for it spiraling out of control, but he would definitely be worthy of inclusion. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 15:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Absolutely, Handel's Messiah is a perfect example, but also lots and lots of OPERA, how can this article mention Whitney Houston, but ignore the use of melisma in Opera, where it has been used extensively from the very beginning, since the extreme melisma of Possente Spirto from l'Orfeo. Operatic arias are some of the most melismatic singing there is. Has been for 400 years.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.104.41.248 (talk) 13:22, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  new example 

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message: Surely '-day' is only melismatic in the treble clef?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.200.7.72 (talk) 18:47, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jesus Christ Is Ris'n Today example