Talk:Every Nation Churches & Ministries/mediation

message: Please place a neutral statement of issues you believe need to be mediated here.
EN
Dispute Over Finances: Whether or not this section should exist at all, concerns over weasel wording, biography of living persons, and reliability and potential original research issues with sourcing to "990" forms (primary sources).
Inpop Records: Dispute regarding whether this organization is "affiliated" with Every Nation, or simply shares some membership in common, concerns with sourcing.
Thelma BowlenTalk 08:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues to be mediated

message: In this stage, please indicate proposals of principle or fact which you believe all sides can already agree on, under a heading such as the one below. I've started off with some proposals. Each party should indicate agreement or disagreement with each proposal, if disagreed, it would be very helpful to explain why you disagree. 
===Proposals by Seraphimblade===
*As with all articles on Wikipedia, the articles in question should be written with a neutral viewpoint, and should not serve as either a whitewash or an attack piece. Both positive and negative information should be presented in a neutral tone and without undue weight.
;Agree
# Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposals for agreement

message: *As with all articles on Wikipedia, the articles in question should be written with a neutral viewpoint, and should not serve as either a whitewash or an attack piece. Both positive and negative information should be presented in a neutral tone and without undue weight.
;Agree
# Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposals by [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]]

message: Please place discussion of the issues under mediation here.
===:Every Nation issues===
;Dispute Over Finances: Whether or not this section should exist at all, concerns over weasel wording, biography of living persons, and reliability and potential original research issues with sourcing to "990" forms (primary sources).
::Answer:  This actually WAS discussed in the mainstream media during the Champions for Christ blowup in 1998.
::*Florida Times-Union (January 8, 1998 edition):  "An Agent for the Lord," by Margie Mason.  
Though Feste and Ball deny any business links, Executives for Christ is listed as a related organization on Champions' tax returns. 
Tax records also show Feste's non-profit group, The Malachi Foundation, gave Ball $16,464 last year. Another $76,000 was given to other ministers and charitable organizations, and Feste said that's what it's all about.
::*Chicago Tribune (August 9, 1998 edition):  "Enis' Agent Says he Goes by Book--The Bible" by Rick Morrissey and Robert Becker.  Quote:
"I have no affiliation with Champions," he said last week. Tax records show The Malachi Foundation, the non-profit group he heads, gave Greg Ball a total of $34,015 in 1995 and 1996 and another $1,150 to CFC in that same span. Ball is the president of Champions for Christ. Feste said his charitable foundation helps support about 20 pastors and evangelists around the country, including Ball.
*CNN/SI:  "An unholy alliance?"  August 22, 1998.  Several mentions of Feste's donations to Champions for Christ, including a mention at the very beginning that he's a "longtime benefactor."Blueboy96 19:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Champions for Christ (or CFC for short) is Every Nation's outreach to college and pro athletes.  It was once part of Maranatha.  That's the rub here ... Feste claims he doesn't give to any "disqualified persons," and yet he admits being a member of the board of Executives for Christ, a subsidiary organization of CFC.Blueboy96 19:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that Thelma didn't address this when she last posted, and has yet to do so.  Nobody on the EN side has objected either.  Can we assume that this issue is closed?  I think so.--Blueboy96 19:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Same thing, see above.  Blueboy96 19:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't look like Thelma addressed this either ... and has yet to do so.  Ditto for the rest of the EN side.  Can we assume this issue is closed?--Blueboy96 19:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues to be discussed

message: ;Dispute Over Finances: Whether or not this section should exist at all, concerns over weasel wording, biography of living persons, and reliability and potential original research issues with sourcing to "990" forms (primary sources).
::Answer:  This actually WAS discussed in the mainstream media during the Champions for Christ blowup in 1998.
::*Florida Times-Union (January 8, 1998 edition):  "An Agent for the Lord," by Margie Mason.  
Though Feste and Ball deny any business links, Executives for Christ is listed as a related organization on Champions' tax returns. 
Tax records also show Feste's non-profit group, The Malachi Foundation, gave Ball $16,464 last year. Another $76,000 was given to other ministers and charitable organizations, and Feste said that's what it's all about.
::*Chicago Tribune (August 9, 1998 edition):  "Enis' Agent Says he Goes by Book--The Bible" by Rick Morrissey and Robert Becker.  Quote:
"I have no affiliation with Champions," he said last week. Tax records show The Malachi Foundation, the non-profit group he heads, gave Greg Ball a total of $34,015 in 1995 and 1996 and another $1,150 to CFC in that same span. Ball is the president of Champions for Christ. Feste said his charitable foundation helps support about 20 pastors and evangelists around the country, including Ball.
*CNN/SI:  "An unholy alliance?"  August 22, 1998.  Several mentions of Feste's donations to Champions for Christ, including a mention at the very beginning that he's a "longtime benefactor."Blueboy96 19:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Champions for Christ (or CFC for short) is Every Nation's outreach to college and pro athletes.  It was once part of Maranatha.  That's the rub here ... Feste claims he doesn't give to any "disqualified persons," and yet he admits being a member of the board of Executives for Christ, a subsidiary organization of CFC.Blueboy96 19:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that Thelma didn't address this when she last posted, and has yet to do so.  Nobody on the EN side has objected either.  Can we assume that this issue is closed?  I think so.--Blueboy96 19:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Same thing, see above.  Blueboy96 19:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't look like Thelma addressed this either ... and has yet to do so.  Ditto for the rest of the EN side.  Can we assume this issue is closed?--Blueboy96 19:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Every Nation]] issues