Talk:Jaffa

message: Correction required: The Palestinian flag is incorrectly referred to as an "Arab flag" in the photo caption "Alhambra Cinema boasting an Arab flag, 1937"
Pejorative language: The use of terms like "riot" vs. "rebellion" or "uprising" to refer only to (presumably Palestinian) Arab people reinforces the Orientalist racist stereotypes of Arabs as inherently violent people. 
Please correct these errors.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.58.79 (talk) 15:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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message: See  comments regarding this at 
IZAK 08:05, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Usage of "Canaanite" as a form of "Hebrew"

message: See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#New "twist and turn" as "Hebrew alphabet" is switched to "Hebrew languages" concerning appropriate uses of the word "Hebrew" here. IZAK 05:33, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes of Hebrew definitions

message: This page is clearly written mostly from one point of view, the Israeli or Zionist one . At http://PalestineRemembered.com/Jaffa/Jaffa/index.html are over 6 Oral History interviews (each over 250 minutes which you can listen) where Palestinian refugees recall their lives in Jaffa with great details. When you read this page, hardly you have mentioning of that Palestinians ever existed in Jaffa. On top of that, this page has quoted the mentions page without stating the reference, this is not ethical.
I urge you also to take the "riot" references to the Palestinian Intifada of 1936, this is an old Zionist propaganda that continues to paint Palestinians and Arabs as thugs and thieves. The uprising (or in Arabic Intifada) was politically motivated. The Palestinian striked for over 6 months with no-violence, resistance to the British Mandate intensified after wards. So this is a political struggle, and their is no political struggle absent from terror, violence, ..etc., but at the core it is a political issue.
I agree that the 1936 Palestinian uprising is not portrayed neutrally, but with a a strong anti-Arab bias.
The 1920s disturbances are also misrepresented.  Especially the word "pogrom" should not be used since it implies the blessing of the government.  In Palestine's case, the country was occupied by the British, who actually supported the Zionist Jews.  The narrated history of the Mandate period also omits mention of Jewish attacks on Arab Palestinians.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.42.42 (talk) 18:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Israeli propaganda

message: Hi this is to warn the Wikipedia community that this page like many others have come to the attention of propagandists from Isreal who trawl wikipedia trying to change history. This page was reverted by one of their ilk.
The attempt here was to hide the fact that Jaffa was an Arab city before 1947 and there was ethnic clensing that occured here - There is a gang at wikipedia that has gone about changing several pages to suit the Zionist concept of history, we appeal to all netutral historians to monitor this page and defend it against these vandals
lalit Shastri
: you are right, there was a racial clensing that occure, before 1948 the arabs had laws that says jews can't live in the same place for more than a year, that was to allow arabs to purchese any houses they want within a year. after that the arabs of yafo simpley attacked and kicked all the jews from yafo, and that is the reason the jews founded Tel-Aviv. i will check now if this info is there and if not i will add it, thanks for the heads up. Maglanist
:Articles can have both Zionist and anti-Zionist contradicting viewpoints portrayed as such.  These articles should actually be non-Zionist, neither leaning towards the Zionist nor the anti-Zionist view.  That is the point of neutral point of view.  Instead of erasing Zionist viewpoints, you should instead balance them equally with anti-Zionist viewpoints where they disagree.  Anti-Zionism is no more neutral than Zionism, because they are both weighted towards a viewpoint that is not neutral.  I suggest that the article be edited to mention all the relevant viewpoints, and mention how they conflict, without taking a side or writing it in such a way as to suggest the reader take a particular side, and without suggesting that the user must necessarily take a side in the conflict at all.  This an encyclopedia, not a political pamphlet.  (This post was selectively cross-posted where this dispute has been seen.) - Gilgamesh 02:56, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Page is under attacj from Zionist Vandals

message: The section reads as if it had been copy-pasted from a certain website to which the section was not explicitly referenced. The section must be rewritten and reference to good, reliable sources. Pecher Talk 09:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern Jaffa

message: The Middle Ages started with the collapse of Rome, some 4 centuries later. Moreover, the climax of St. Peter's visit to Jaffa was not the resurrection of Tabitha, but a vision he received there (Acts X). Jancikotuc 09:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is St. Peter listed in the medieval period? 

message: I hope someone may know a little more here and can add to the article:
* In 636 Jaffa was conquered by Arabs: so which people lived there from 1 - 636? And which Arabs? Who was leading them? From the date I can guess a context but it is not provided here.
* Jaffa was captured during the Crusades: when exactly? I guess it also happened in the context of one or more particular crusedes
* Jewish traveller Benjamin of Tudela (1170)...: seems like an interesting source, but did he really just count the jews and provide no other information on Jaffa?
* In 14th century they completely destroyed the city for fear of new crusades. According to the traveler Cotwyk, Jaffa was a heap of ruins at the end of the 16th century. - There must be more specific dates for both of these
Maybe not very Wiki of me to ask for extra info rather than provide it myself.... but from all the P.O.V. discussion it seems there are many people editing this page who know stuff - this is a request to use that knowledge in another way than just tilt the article in your direction :-) Klaasvanschelven 06:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval period - Call for information 

message: Jayjg recently removed a link to Yudit Ilany's blog about life in Jaffa. I found the site a few days ago. Although the writer is Jewish, she seems to be quite sympathetic to the situation of the indiginous inhabitants of Jaffa. Her site provides a good window into the reality of day to day life of the people who live there. It also includes some excellent photos. Some of this material would definately add to the article. ابو علي (Abu Ali) 21:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a blog. See WP:EL#Links_normally_to_be_avoided, number 11. I'm not sure why her allegedly being "sympathetic" to the situation of Israelis would be relevant. Jayjg (talk) 06:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of external link 

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There are some new Christian sects and religions who contest that the so-called Gentiles in the New Testament mean  simply "nations" and consider they were part of the Israelites exiled from Palestine. The Apostle Paul went to the Israelite brethren and brought them the message of Christ. The Gentiles (nations) are, following these beliefs, the many nations which came from Abraham and Sarah. These nations from Abraham would be  found today in the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic and kindred people of Europe. This religious - racial theory is known as Christian Identity. Others, of course, reject this theory.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpt.schoener (talk • contribs) 22:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian Identity ,the Vision of Peter and the Gentiles

message: I would like to delete:
- 'The Arabs rejected the plan'. Not relevant, not neutral.
- The attacks on Jewish buses near Netanya.
- The call for General strike.
- The estimates for casualties across Palestine. Interesting subject but not here.
Instead I would propose:
- 'Local notables of Jaffa National committee were generally against initiating hostilities.' A major concern was the harvest and export of the citrus crop on which Jaffa's economy depended. (Third largest export market after oil products from Haifa and diamonds from Tel Aviv).
- In December, Mayor Yisrael Rokach of Tel Aviv and Mayor Yussuf Haikal (sic) of Jaffa issued a call to their residents to maintain peace and quite.
- In February, Mayor Yussuf Haykal (sic) contacted Ben Gurion through a British intermediary trying to secure a peace agreement with Tel Aviv. The Haganah opposed.Padres Hana (talk) 22:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jaffa 1948 

message: Where can I find RS about the ongoing destruction of Jaffa's ancient Jewish cemetery? Chesdovi (talk) 15:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Jewish cemetery 

message: Was visiting Tel Aviv in 2010, but hadn't enough time to see the southernmost part, i.e. Jaffa. Next time I'm in Israel, I will visit it. But must in that regards know its size to know what I'm up against. Do I need a whole day to see it properly, or what? Is it just 1 km x 1 km, as someone suggested, or much bigger? Hope for answers with actual numbers by people who knows. Best of all from real residents or people living nearby.
 
Stein S., Oslo  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.128.106.111 (talk) 08:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of Jaffa? 

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message: If one goes to the Wikipedia homepage and types in "Jaffa", the link that appears with the photo is captioned "Jaffa old part of a the city of Tel Aviv-Yafo" [sic].  I am not familiar with where that entry is logged for purposes of correction, but would request that it be corrected.One-Off Contributor (talk) 05:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction of Search Link 

message: The claim that the city was first settled in 7500 BCE is sourced to a dead link. Additionally, the page http://archaeology.tau.ac.il/?p=4803 (TEL YAFO EXPEDITION), which is likely the same as or similar to the original page, contains nothing remotely supporting that date.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.45.141 (talk) 00:37, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  First settlement 

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message: Yaqut al-Hamawi  (1179–1229) wrote that "Yafa is a city of Filastin on the coast of the Syrian Sea, and was taken by Saladin with the other coast-towns in 583 (1187). After a few years, however, it was seized on by the Franks in 587 (1191), but was again taken by Al Malik al 'Adil, Saladin's brother, in 593 (1196) and dismantled."(le Strange, 1890, p. 551)
We really need some more sources on the Crusader era times, here, Huldra (talk) 23:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crusader era......more info needed 

message: "'Serrani', Jaffa's town hall built by a Jewish architect during the Late Ottoman years". This needs a source. I'm sceptical because architects design buildings, they don't usually build them. Zerotalk 06:14, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: hi. I will look for a source. Apart from maybe using poor English, I'm quite sure about it. Usually there were (are?) 2-3 specialists involved in larger projects, one might do the design, maybe following a sketch by a master architect (or the owner's), a structural engineer might do the actual calculations and create the final blueprints, then another might supervise the construction. Or one does it all. There are lots of examples for splitting the job, just came across another couple since yesterday, both from the same period, both with colleagues of different ethnoreligious backgrounds.
OK, I found it. Baruch Papirmeister from Rishon L'Zion (all this can be written in all the permutations known to you). There is one confusion possible, between the town hall, which got blown up in 48, and the building immediately right/S of it, the governor's residence, restored to become a museum before Erdogan got upset with Netanyahu, Israel and the rest. This I cannot figure out, as nobody reliable is trying to connect the dots, or show a picture. The 'Serrani' sentence is been copied by the whole Internet, with no single explanation what that is and why they call it that way. The 'Saraya' might be either the (blown up) town hall or the adjacent governor's residence. Here you go, maybe you can figure it out: here, and look for Papirmeister. You find again '"Saraya (Government House) in Jaffa' attributed to 'Papirmayster Baruch' on this page, based on the Rishon local museum archive. A less reliable page (here) suggests that Papirmeister's building would be the one still standing. If they're right, then I was wrong. It is confusing, two buildings sharing a wall and both are official municipality/admin. buildings. Whatever. Arminden (talk) 07:18, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Plenty of sources say that that the Saraya was blown up, including detailed accounts like in Milstein. It might have been rebuilt, so a modern reference to it doesn't prove it wasn't blown up. The name "Serrani" is hard to find, except in Wiki-derivatives, so I suggest that the name in the article be changed to Saraya. Your first source is enough to show that Baruch designed it. It is simply incorrect English to write that the designer of a building "built" it, and you'll note that none of your three sources uses that terminology. The two parties which can be said to have built it are the building company and the owner. The architect "designed" or "planned" it; I prefer the former since the latter is ambiguous. Zerotalk 07:44, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  wait, wait! It's 2 buildings. 100% sure. Of the blown-up town hall one can still see the facade columns (look at the Anzac photo, you can see the facade. Now all the walls are gone, but the columns are like a landmark, kept standing & renovated.) The other one is fully restored, I'm sure there are dozens of pictures online. If you can figure it out, fine, but there are two buildings, let's not mix things up any more than they are. Saraya is how Saray (building) is known in IL/PAL, it usually is alone the seat of the governor. In Jaffa though a 2nd building served as some kind of town hall. Apart from that, my bad English can be fixed, or even better, the whole sentence removed, since I can't say for sure which building is which. Arminden (talk) 08:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great, I have a photo in a book of the aftermath of the bombing and for sure it is the building on the left. There is a loose-end here, though. Where does the name "Serrani" come from? Incidentally, Pal Post said that the "Old Serail" was bombed, which is a spelling version of Saray mentioned at Saray (building). Every reliable source I have calls the bombed building some variation of Saraya, so I think we should call it that too. Zerotalk 11:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Since we have no good source for "Serrani", I'll change it to "Saraya" with a reliable source. We can't keep a name that we have no good source at all for. I have several maps that are detailed enough to pick out the building that was blown up; a map of 1918 calls it "town hall", and maps of 1929 and 1930 call it "governorate". Neither of them label the building to the right at all. However, on the next detailed map I have, 1943, the "governorate" has moved to another building 500m east (which probably explains why PP called this one Old Serail and why in 1948 it housed the National Committee and not the Sub-District administration). Zerotalk 12:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Brits had no reason to also adopt the Turkish governor's residence, a relatively small Oriental town house probably not to their liking. By the time of the bombing, the Arab leadership (National Committee or otherwise) had moved out of the old town hall. Not sure when, probably between Nov. 1947 (UN partition decision) and January 1948 (bombing), but maybe even earlier. Arminden (talk) 20:56, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Here one more photo with both buildings. I'm not sure it is indeed from 17 Nov. 1917, Nov. 1917 is when the Anzacs conquered Jaffa, I don't even know if they made it there by the 17th, but 1917-1918 is good enough for most purposes. (c)-free. Arminden (talk) 20:45, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   If the Survey of Palestine labelled the building as "Governorate" then that's what it was. Also, Milstein quotes from intercepted phone calls of the chairman of the Jaffa branch of the National Committee after the bombing that make it quite clear that the NC had not left. Incidentally, a Hagana guy told Milstein that Hagana had been planning to bomb the building until the Lehi got in first. Zerotalk 03:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I don't get you. I'm happy to learn, but what are you saying? You wrote that "maps of 1929 and 1930 call it governorate", but the 1943 map shows that "the governorate has moved to another building 500m east". I was talking of 1948, so 5 years after the "governorate" moved out. What was the columned-facade building in 1948, still the "governorate" or not? And I was buying the Arab argument that by 4 Jan. 1948 the building was only being used as a "social services" site with a soup kitchen for poor children, and the militias' HQs had moved "to the suburbs". Was it still used by the "National Committee"? Besides: what's meant by that? The Arab Higher Committee? What I know is that the Jewish militias had an eye on it because the leaders of the different "gangs", i.e. the various Arab militias, were working out of that building. The Arab Higher Committee was the Mufti's faction, he didn't control other factions and I think Jaffa had several, probably including local ad-hoc citizens' units. I think it's another case of "fog of war". Militias don't keep numbered cubicles & offices, they probably had stuff in that building, met there when convenient to try and coordinate, but also had their strongholds in the "suburbs", where they would gather in the house of a leader or supporter (call it HQ if you want). The Mandate worked European-style, some of the Jewish organisations maybe tried to, a few Arab notables might have; the rest went about their business the Levantine way. It would help to know why the Mandate officials had fully abandoned the building - maybe the 1943 map gives the answer to that: Brits out, "Arab Higher Committee" & local factions, militias and notables in. But it's guesswork, again. Arminden (talk) 04:20, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

text:   In the early mandate it was a Government building; "governorate" implies that it was the administrative headquarters of the Jaffa Sub-district, which had a Governor. This changed sometime between 1930 and 1943 when the governorate moved away. Some time between then and 1947, the National Committee moved in. The National Committee (Al-Lajnaha Al-Qawmiyyah) was formed in 1936. In addition to a country-wide National Committee there were National Committees in many towns and cities. The story is confusing because National Committees were also formed in 1947, supposedly under the direction of the Arab Higher Committee but in practice largely independent. The Jaffa NC in 1947 included Mufti opponents as well as supporters. Zerotalk 06:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  town hall 

message: I think these photos are rather good & should be included.  Padres Hana (talk) 22:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they are good. A problem is that the article is crowded -- can you suggest images to remove? Zerotalk 14:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Tricky question. My first reaction is the one with British soldiers & the sniper attack one. Could all the ‘tourist’ shots be put in a gallery? To complicate matters I found a photo of cars being brought ashore by the boatmen. Maybe ‘landing at Jaffa’ needs an article of its own! I think if you look carefully at these two you can see the areas demolished by the British the year before. Perhaps I am the wrong person to ask because I have already cluttered up several articles with archive photos - some of which do need weeding. Padres Hana (talk) 17:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The photos definitely are informative, but need photoshopping (margins, but mainly CONTRAST). I'm not in favour of removing the snipers photo, it stands right after the bombing photo and together they make sense. Also, the WWI photo is very good, WWI is usually left aside, and it shouldn't, it had a huge impact, is mistakenly pushed to the sidelines. Arminden (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

text:  I cropped and adjusted contrast. Caching might prevent you from seeing the difference for a while. Zerotalk 03:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  aerial photos 1937 

message: A great read: Maayan Hillel,  Under the Radar: Arab and Jews Crossing Cultural Boundaries in Mandatory Palestine. Hillel got her PhD from TAU, this is a lecture based on her thesis and held no later than 2013. It contains an August 1927 quote from the Falastin newspaper that's absolutely perfect for T-shirts & any future Forest Gump remake: "The Jewish woman will be kind enough to drown in the sea of[f] Tel Aviv [rather than Jaffa]." It's the conclusion to a story of how Arab men/boys saved a Jewish girl from drowning. Followed by a story of national appropriation from the opposite side from 1935 Tel Aviv, but w/o the incredible punchline character of the Falastin quote. People lived, let live, and helped each other stay alive; ideologues scoffed at this fact. Not always, but as a general norm. Arminden (talk) 23:21, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daily life in Mandate Jaffa & Tel Aviv: not what nationalist purists are trying to present 

message: It is clear that Jaffa (Biblical Joppa) was a Philistine harbour town and nowhere in the Bible there is a claim of it being taken over by the Israelites. In the old Testament there are only 4 references, firstly in Joshua 19:46 geving the tribe of Dan land against Joppa, never claiming Joppa itself as part of Dan, unlike f.i. Ekron, even though that also remained a major Philistine centre, even becoming the seat of the Assyrian governer of Philistia in the 7th century. Then it is for a long time not mentioned again until IIChronicles 2:16 claims it was used as a port for the cedar wood of the Lebanon for the building of the first temple. However, the book of Kings (which is a much earlier source) doesn't mention that and it is likely that this is just an echo of Ezra 3:7 telling that cedar for the second temple arrived via Joppa. Cronicles is usually supposed to be written by Ezra, but might even have been written much later. The last reference is in Jonah, as a port of transportion to Tarshish (wich is probably a late fictional work).
Interestingly, both the stories in Kings and Chronicles mention the cedars being transported as floats, which would be a totally logical thing to do at that point in time as ships would be to small to transport large numbers of beams. As an added bonus this would need no harbour to land them, they could just be beached anywhere that was convenient. One would certainly not use a harbour for this, with the difficulties of navigating it into a harbour and risking blocking it and damaging ships. So the retelling in Chronicles has probably mixed these two events. However, between the 9th and 5th century ships had certainly become a lot bigger, so a transport of timber by ships might be a possibility at that point in time (any shipwreck archaeologist might have some insights on this?) So the story in Ezra might be historical (he is not mentioning floats) and ownership of Joppa is no problem at that time, as both Joppa and Jeruzalem were in the Persian empire.
So i wonder: is there any clear archaeological or historical evidence on what was the last point in time this port was part of Philistine? The present article is very unclear and the claims it was taken in the time of king David and Solomo does not seem to be based at any facts so should be removed from the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codiv (talk • contribs) 14:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  How long was Jaffa a Phillistine town 

message: To whoever in dealing with potential edits: Victor Norris Hamilton, listed under "notable people," died in 1997. Dorothy Kernaghan-Baez (talk) 13:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victor Norris Hamilton 

message: change is an ancient port city in Israel. to is an ancient port city in Palestine.
references:-
https://www.britannica.com/topic/mandate-League-of-Nations
https://mobile.twitter.com/Shaimaa32A/status/1532526682036371461
https://omniatlas.com/maps/southern-asia/19460928/
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/map-of-the-middle-east-1930
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/map-of-jewish-settlement-in-palestine-1881-1914
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/map-of-ottoman-administrative-districts-1915
 MKweight (talk) 13:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think WikiPedia admins are the ones who are respnsible to say so. The references provided can end the controversy. MKweight (talk) 14:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 June 2022 

message: , ,  User-generated maps are always based on published maps and their reliability rests only on the reliability of the published map and the faithfulness of the copy. There is no requirement for another source. In the case of the disputed map, the 1944 maps made by the Survey of Palestine are an excellent source for the 1944 boundary. The only thing I'm concerned with is the 2022 boundary: Crash48, can you give more information about that? Zerotalk 14:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Tel Aviv-Yafo now—one city, not two—and I don't know how the boundaries of Jaffa are defined in 2022. This was one of my concerns with this map. Boundaries of 1944 should be fine if they are the same as in sources. Artem.G (talk) 14:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

text: The current boundaries of Jaffa are clearly defined on the municipality's website: https://www.tel-aviv.gov.il/Transparency/DocLib4/%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%9C%20%D7%94%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A2%207.docx --Crash48 (talk) 18:40, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  ok, I admit I'm wrong - but if you cited the source right away, there would be no misunderstanding. Artem.G (talk) 19:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of historical boundaries 

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message: Change "1129 peace treaty" to "1229 peace treaty" in the lead section. The typo is here in the second paragraph: "... as well as a later 1129 peace treaty. In 1799, Napoleon also sacked the town...". Md143rbh7f (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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message: Please add the following pronunciation as it is the most common one:
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replies: text: That pronunciation is already included in the article. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 February 2024