Talk:Cold (band)

message: This article is horribly written.
It is. I can't revise it because I'm not sure of thier past history and everything. Anyone care to revise it? TearAwayTheFunerealDress 16:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: AMG calls them that, and many other sources call them punk.  Itachi1452 00:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: post-punk revival?

message: I have made some contributions to the article on Scooter's new project When November Falls, also i have made a page for the debut album The Series of Emotion, both of them will need more information otherwise they will be deleted... i really hope this doesn't happen... p.s. the new songs are awesome check out their myspace page to listen *smiles*. --Dave 07:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  When November Falls 

message: Please fix it... some of the singles point to pages about other albums of other bands, which i'm sure isn't intended, please make pages for them eg. for the single Give maybe you could make a page for them (and others) with like Give (Cold Album), that way they'll have their own page :). I love Cold but since i don't have the singles and things like that which someone who added them does (unfortunatly whoever made the edit did it without a wikipedia username :'( ). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.253.63.81 (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoever added the new stuff... 

message: Actually, even there is no proof of it, or even verified, Scooter Ward is a very religious person, as is witnessed with songs such as Cure My Tragedy (A Letter To God).  While he isn't "outspokenly" Christian and I don't think it honestly belongs on the page, I believe that is where people who add it might construe it from. -- Shatterzer0 00:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that makes sense. But as you said, it is not factual. I do love that song though. Johaen 01:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian influences/rock etc

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Coldlogo.gif

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message: As much as I want to believe this, there's no source.  And after just looking at TK&TS's MySpace blog, there doesn't seem to be any mention of this in there.  It goes back to March, and on that page there's no mention of a new Cold CD.  Can we get a real source before another false rumor of a Cold CD is passed around as fact again?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.80.72 (talk) 18:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New CD/EP Collection

message: As a reader of Cold's article,and as a reader who hasn't heard their music, The biggest problem I see in this article is that it doesn't have the parts "Style" and "Influences" wich are very important in Music bands' articles.So I suggest anyone who has heard their music and who has reliable sources about their Style and Influences, to add this part as fast.Cause it's a big problem in this article.(I myself am trying to find a source for this)Solino the Wolf (talk) 12:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: I've merged the line-up history back to this article. It doesn't make much sense as a stand-alone list. I would also recommend scrapping the first of the two tables. It is better served by text explaining the changes and the second table is a better visual. Pichpich (talk) 21:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line-up history 

message: I understand that Wiki relies on sources for information contained in articles, but I think everyone can agree that just because something is written SOMEWHERE doesn't mean it's necessarily accurate or not the work of someone's opinion. According to some music journalists, Cold is a nu-metal band. Sorry to say, but music journalism is not an area that features professionals who have deeply studied their subject (music) in any scientific, academic way. It just doesn't come with the subject's territory. When you read medical journals and other publications of the sort, the articles are written by people who have a deep, studied, official knowledge of the subject. Even further, these are usually reviewed by their peers, who must agree that the writer knows what they are writing about. This is not the case with music journalism. Genres are hard to describe, because they can be slightly subjective. For that reason, people do a lot of "lumping" when it comes to bands and artists. They basically say , "Oh, Staind, Cold, and Trust Company all toured with nu-metal bands in the early 2000s? Then they must ALSO be nu-metal! (Even though these three bands have never had any hip-hop, funk, electronic, etc. elements to them)". If the inclusion of the term 'nu-metal' on Cold's wiki is based on information contained in the Wikipedia page for nu-metal, then we can compare the aspects between the genre and this band. Let's do that.According to the nu-metal page, these are the main aspects of the genre's sound followed by a breakdown of how Cold fits into them.
*Nu metal bassists and drummers often draw influence from funk and hip hop break beats.
**Really don't hear any funk or rap beats in any Cold songs.
*Use of seven-string guitars (which are sometimes downtuned) over traditional six-string guitars.
**They use six-string guitars.
*DJs are also sometimes used for additional rhythmic instrumentation such as music sampling, turntable scratching and electronic backgrounds.
**They do not employ any of these aspects in their music.
*Nu metal vocal styles range between singing, rapping, screaming and death growling, sometimes using multiple of these styles within one song.
**In Cold's entire catalog, Scooter pretty much spends 95% of the time singing and 5% screaming/yelling.
*The lyrics of many nu metal bands focus on pain and personal alienation.
**Scoter's lyrics are mostly about relationships, fairytales, drugs, music, and spirituality, unlike nu-metal bands that sing about being picked on in school and abused by their parents.
*Nu metal uses the traditional pop structure of verses, choruses and bridges.
**So does pop, and rock, and pop-punk, and pop-rock, and grunge, etc. See the point?
*Nu metal is also sometimes noted for participation of women in the genre.
**No women in Cold. But still, women are found in many music genres.
*Bands associated with nu metal have derived influence from a variety of diverse styles, including electronic music, funk, glam metal, gothic rock, hardcore punk, hip hop, New Wave music, industrial metal, jazz, post-punk, symphonic rock and synthpop. Nu metal also derives influences from multiple sub-genres of heavy metal including rap metal, funk metal, alternative metal and thrash metal.
**Glam? Goth? Hip-hop? Industrial/electronic? Funk metal? Rap metal? Thrash? Jazz? I really doubt you can argue these aspects can be found anywhere in any Cold song. They're a rock band, basically. Nothing fancy.
With this being said, I am removing nu-metal from the band's genre list. If anyone can provide a sound argument on why this should be there, speak your mind here. But don't offer some link to a hack journalist, or, even worse, some huge music site ran by a handful of people who just copy and paste information on bands from other sites without doing any research of their own.I would like to add that I am not trying to fight a genre-war because I am in any way associated with this band. Additionally, I am not trying to prevent them from being labeled as nu-metal because I have some sort of embarrassment or shame for liking a band labeled as such. I'm happy to admit to liking many nu-metal bands like 3rd Strike, Linkin Park, Darwin's Waiting Room, etc. I just can't stand when something is labeled incorrectly.Hsxeric (talk) 01:50, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not nu-metal. 

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message: Who was second guitarist in 1998? In Youtube there is a video “COLD - FULL concert pt.2 1998-10-07”, and “Strip Her Down” plays second guitarist (Scooter only sing).
Den1101 (talk) 10:21, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members