Talk:Shams Tabrizi

message: You should mention he was a Sunni and was NOT a iranian but a persian, but he was an Ismaili Peer in time of Imam Mustansibillah the fatimeed Imam direct decendent of Muhammad (Peace be upon him and his family). Iran is differant than Persian. Persian is a race, Iran is a country!
::Persian is not a race. But Iranian is. You should have looked up wikipedia for Iranian People before posting this. And besides, there is no evidence for Shams being Persian, maybe he belonged to Azeri, Tat, Talysh or any other ethnic groups of Iran.Shams Tabrizi was a Sunni (Shafi madhab) as per my I have read. I dont have any source at my hand right now, so I am not putting it, but, once I get my hands on the source, I will update this article. --Theotherguy1 (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the page with proper citation. --Theotherguy1 (talk) 04:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sunni

message: This page does not do justice to the truth of this Man and his relationship to Rumi, or Rumi and his father.  Rumi was a practicing Sufi well before he met Shams, given that his father was a renowned Shaykh, both in Khurasan and later in Konya.  Shams set Rumi on fire with Love and their relationship can best be described as Alchemical.  Both Shams and Rumi go out of their way to say 'But no, he is the peerless one'.  Certainly Shams does not allow anyone to hold a candle to Rumi, whom he loved, deeply.  And vice versa.
There is a book, called 'Sun of Rumi', which finally brings Shams' teachings to the English reader.   Excellent reference for this article.
Regarding the name issue, my guess is that we have individuals who are a bit possessive of Shams and wish to render a Turkish version of his city of origin.  I tell you these Men would laugh at your face if they saw how you argue over whether he was Iranian, Persian, or Turk; their whole lives was dedicated to shattering any sort of bondage to 'transitory' facts of the "world", or Donya.  Ask them where they are from and they will tell you:  "We are from The Garden".
Regarding the Iranian vs Persian.   Clearly, Persians are a ethnic sub-set of the Aryans, which is a race.  The country was called Aryaan Shahr, or Iran Shahr, or Aryaan Zameen or Iran Zameen, as you prefer (which is the 'greater Iran' covering the lands of the Iranian People) from the beginning.  Iranians have NEVER called their nation "Persia".  The modern nation-state of Iran, currently incarnate as Islamic Republic of Iran is the residual Iran Zameen (thanks to the incompetent Qajar shahs ...)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.213.240 (talk) 01:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues

message: He was not Persian because he was born in Tabriz and was an Azeri. The truth is he was an Azeri-Iranian. There is a page in Wikipedia for Azeri-iranians. Thus, It must be as follows:
Shams-i Tabrīzī in a circa 1503 copy of his disciple Rumi's poem, the "Diwan-e Shams-e Tabriz-i"]] Shams-i-Tabrīzī or Shams al-Din Mohammad (died ca.1248) was an Azeri-iranian Muslim...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.93.100 (talk) 01:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Azeri-Iranian not Persian

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thread_title: File:Tomb of Shams Tabrizi 8.JPG Nominated for Deletion

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message: 900-1910 was Täbris a kurdish city!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.109.105.28 (talk) 23:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: He was a KORD!

message: *Someone has changed the attribution of Shams' 40 rules of love to be [15]"The Forty Rules of Love by Elif Shafak", which is a romance novel, not actually by Shams Tabrizi. 86.0.19.12 (talk) 11:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Page vandalised (Reference 15)

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The drawing was made by a user and doesn’t have any historical basis. There are quite a few more authentic images of Shams in the Wikipedia Commons. Please let me know if anyone has any objections to me replacing the user’s drawing. Bagabondo (talk) 05:41, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A proper image of Shams