Talk:Chrono Trigger/Archive 1

message: *The Chrono Compendium's down until March 17th. This update will mark the end of downtime on whole, and the evolution of the site. The Wiki will still be maintained, but shall properly serve its purpose as an encyclopedia, and not the main site. Crimson Echoes has also begun; I've edited the link to reflect that. --ZeaLitY 03:40, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Chrono Compendium

message: *Is the link to the 3D CT project really neccisary since it's shut down? --InShaneee 17:34, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: CT Remake Link

message: "There are no random battles while wandering on the overworld map, and players can avoid most battles in the game if they choose."  Well, it's pretty obvious that there aren't any random battles, but there are only a couple places in the game where you can actually avoid them.  Can someone (preferrably from the Chrono Compendium) resolve this issue? Peaceman 01:39, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  (I hadn't heard of the Chrono Compendium, so feel free to ignore this. ;^)  There are a number of battles that you can avoid, but it seems to me that there are only a few places where you can't avoid battles.  (We are ignoring boss battles, I assume.)  There are certain "hot spots" on the map that trigger the battle.  If you step on the hot spot, the battle begins, if you avoid it, you can skip it.  It also depends on whether you are walking or running.  There are some battles you can avoid quite easily if you simply walk past the monsters (for example, Truce Canyon 600AD.  You have to do the first fight, but when you come down off the ledge, if you walk past the critters rolling the roly poly you can skip that fight).  Sometimes running helps avoid battles, since you can leave the screen before the battle actually begins.  In the cursed woods, you can even bump up against a monster and, as long as you are walking, the battle never happens.  I usually get into all the battles I can during my first play of the game to level up my characters, but during New Game Plus, I avoid most of them, since they take more time than they are worth.  wrp103 (Bill Pringle)  - Talk 21:01, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Well yeah, but once you go to the harder dungeon areas (Tyranno Fortress, Black Omen), the hot areas become so big that you can't really avoid many of the battles.  But when you're in relatively easy areas with enemies (forests and Truce Canyon), you're right.  Peaceman 00:21, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: If you are on the world map, save your game, take a few steps, and save it again.  If you get into a battle, try escape.  If you do get killed off, you are still closer than you were before.  (BTW - you can sign your entries with three or four tildes) wrp103 (Bill Pringle)  - Talk 19:08, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random Battles 

message: People, when you upload CT media, at the end of the description pleases add "Category:Chrono media".  This way, we can keep track of what pics we have and what pics we want.  I just went through every CT related page and put all of the pics into the category, but I DO NOT feel like doin that again.  Thanks for you cooperation!  Peaceman 04:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea! Hansamurai 13:44, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  When uploading CT pics, screenshots, etc. 

message: I thought the NPC section was removed in the process of cleaning up the article for featured status. Have they purposely returned? --Zeality 05:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, you elitist! They stumbled here. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:31, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPCs are back? 

message: Doesn't Chrono Trigger use the SNES Mode 7 capabilities during the time warp sequences? I think it also uses it in that one instance where you choose 1999 AD on the dial in the Epoch and it shoots into Lavos (you can see the cockpit controls shaking and everything). Or is it something else? Not that it has much value for the article other than a mention in its graphics, I'm mainly wondering for my own amusement. ~ Hibana 17:32, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible. For sure it uses Mode 7 during the "motorbike" racing game in 2300 AC. -- ReyBrujo 17:39, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...I feel stupid but what's Mode 7? Peaceman 00:50, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Read this article: Mode 7. You'll probably know it when you see it. ~ Hibana 00:58, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh okay, so like in the normal ending scene when Epoch's flying around. Kewl.  Peaceman 01:27, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mode 7? 

message: Parts of this article referring to the in-game "past" are written in present tense, i.e. "After Lavos hits the planet, dust blasts into the atmosphere and blocks out the sun." Shouldn't these parts be written in past tense?
:Past/Present/Future are for the most part arbitrary since the game relies heavily on time travel and the characters are from several different time periods.  But it accurately reflects in present tense seeing as it is a game with a player engaged in it, witnessing the events as they unfold.  Videogame events tend to be spoken of in present tense.  Just take a look at any of the story synopses or walkthroughs at a gaming site such as Game FAQS. --Alfador 06:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tense 

message: *"rm promotional link to fan site. If you think it really belongs here, log in and argue your case." ...okay, arguing. Since other people have posted links to my RPG subsites in several other Wikipedia articles, I thought "Ah okay, since Wikipedia likes me so much, I think I'll add my Chrono Trigger subsite to their links". The site offers a review, character info, screen captures, Final Fantasy Chronicles screen captures and movie clips, Chrono Trigger anime screen captures and movie clip, world maps, official art, scans, cosplay photos, music (MIDI, SPC, MP3), desktop wallpapers and other media. Most of its content is original and cannot be found elsewhere. It's been online since 1999 and I continue to update it. If you look up 'Chrono Trigger' on Google, most of the sites that come up have material copied from my site, especially my older batch of wallpapers. I didn't add the link because it's mine and I wanted promotion, I added it because it offers material that the existing links don't have. That and, considering that dedicated Chrono Trigger sites (or any other sites dedicated to classic RPGs) are so scarce, there probably aren't any others that could be added. The page in question: http://www.fantasyanime.com/squaresoft/ct.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amitrius17 (talk • contribs) .
* Hmm. I still think it's very rarely okay to link to your own site, but I might be swayed; what are the other articles that link to your site? rspeer 23:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Fan site, to add or not to add

message: My Reference to the collector cards available with the super famicom preorder was removed, and understandably so, as it was reasonably ambiguous and the fire magic portion was also relatively unsupported (refer to the arc impulse). I have edited it to be more clear and supported.  If anyone wants to verify it just take a look at the ebay chrono trigger page as there are always at least 7 or 8 of these cards up for bidding.  --Alfador 02:00, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yo there! That is an interesting piece of information. Can you find a stable link which you can link to? In four months it is possible there are no more cards, and someone may wonder where you got that information. -- ReyBrujo 02:45, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  CT Prism Cards --Zeality 17:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh... duh, it is the box art, Marle using Fire magic... duh, I deserve a good punch! -- ReyBrujo 17:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try to take some photos or scans of my cards to upload directly.  Also, I have edited the word "contained" back to present tense and clarified the what "contains" is referencing as the numerous copies of each card definitely exist. --Alfador 22:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Collector Cards

message: I reverted a number of changes about the status of characters at the end the game (e.g., Crono marrying Marle, Frog in human form, etc.)  What actually happens at the end of the game depends on what ending you get.  It seems that it would be better to include such things in the section on various endings. wrp103 (Bill Pringle)  - Talk 17:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: End of Game Edits

message: Regarding the recent dispute over the capitalization of the phrase "the bible", I checked MLA citation references.  It should be capilalized as the Bible unless a specific edition in print that is entitled The Bible is the one in question.  The reason for this is that there are countless editions and translations of the Bible released.  They are all Bibles, but under different names.  Some simply Bible, others The Bible or Holy Bible usually followed or prefaced with a caption so to speak, such as Holy Bible: New Living Translation or The King James Rendition of the Bible.  As a result, until reasonably evidence can be found to the contrary, it should be left as the Bible.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 19:08, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is also worth noting that the article about the Bible uses "the Bible" almost exclusively. hansamurai 飯侍 (burp) 21:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, I probably should have noted that in the first place, seeing as how consistency is relatively important between articles. --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 23:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bible

message: Should we reference, or make a page about Chrono Trigger Remake Project: Unfinished Business ? I see it as Wikipedia worthy, but is it? if so i'll start with the page. --ThrashedParanoid 02:04, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds a bit crufty to me. ~ Hibana 02:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well we make mention to Chrono Trigger Remake Project in the Unofficial remakes section, so i think it is relevant to that, but that is why i asked. --ThrashedParanoid 14:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unfinished Business? 

message: Shouldn't the magical element, or lack of in the case of Robo and Ayla, be mentioned the same for all characters? What I mean is, why do we have different descriptions of how they have them when they all get them the same way? This excludes Magus who has innate magical power and Robo and Ayla for their lack of, but they should have the same general descriptions. Just a thought. Carbunkel 20:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Descriptions: Magic related 

message: ' The game has never been released in PAL territories. '
I am virtually certain that this is factually incorrect.  I live in Belgium (a small west-European country), and I have seen Chrono Trigger available in a toystore down here sometime during the mid-90'ies.  I also remember the boxcover not being at all as the one currently shown on the article's main page.  (It was simply a black background with the title-screen's clock-design shown on it, with the words 'Chrono Trigger' pasted over it.)
Unfortunately I have no way of proving this claim.  My request is that someone who is more knowledgeable on these things could further investigate this matter.  What I can say however is that I am certainly not making any of the above up.
I'm quite certain that I would have heard of it, had CT been released in Europe. You must have encountered an import, or a fake. Getting an NTSC version of CT was all the rage back then. 130.232.131.47 23:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ' The game has never been released in PAL territories. ' 

message: The "Time Axis is out of alignment" message is the result of leaving a non-upgraded Epoch in another time period and using the warp pillars to return to the Keeper's Dome.  Using a Game Genie, etc. has nothing to do with the message itself, it just makes it easier to encounter that situation.
The second part of that event tracking paragraph starting with "It is also used..." should be removed or replaced.  A replacement idea is a better description of the tracking system remembering the player's influence on people/locations.  Possible examples: Crono's actions at the fair being used as evidence at The Trial, the restoration of Fiona's Forest, Lucca's 990 AD flashback.
Anyway, I thought it would be a good etiquette to put this up for discussion here first before making changes, since I understand this is a "near-final" article. JLukas 11:52, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Time Axis' 

message: There should be something in the article about the prevalence of Chrono Trigger memes in Internet subculture, for example on YTMND. I'm probably a bad judge of what subcultural stuff is notable and what isn't, so I'm not sure I'm qualified to write the blurb. Mike Church 06:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know.  The YTMND thing is just one song (although CT jokes have often been made in reference to the SNG/Time Travel fad).  If something major pops up, and I sure hope it does, then we can talk about inclusion here.  Until then, it'll just have to wait, sorry.  You don't like it, I don't like it, but I want to make this a Good Article, and things like this have to wait. Crazyswordsman 02:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet subculture 

message: There should be mention of the debate as to who the entity is, as it is often a hot topic on game forums.
--Cinder6 16:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Japanese version of the game and other clues pretty much establish it as the planet. There haven't been very many debates at all since 2003, mainly because most of the debates prior were had since no authority existed on the matter, and there was no reference to past discussions. Now that all the evidence for the planet has been compiled, there's little dispute. --Zeality 17:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The dispute might not be there, but the topic was pretty big on CT forums. - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entity 

message: With the recent surge of Final Fantasy articles making good status (all mainstream games except FFII, FFIII, and FFV are GAs now), I'd like to see Chrono Trigger make good status.  I feel it is very close, and it just needs proper reference formatting.  This weekend, I plan on starting addind references, and formatting them properly.  I'd appreciate all help in doing so. Crazyswordsman 02:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'd like to get this up to "Good Article" standards. 

message: :When SquareEnix copyrighted the names Chrono Brake in Japan and Chrono Break in the United States, it attracted the attention of Chrono fans, who were thrilled that another sequel might be forthcoming. Their hopes were diminished when the name registration was dropped in the US, but due to the Japanese name still being copyrighted, many fans continue to hope for a possible second sequel.
WTF is this talking about? You can't copyright a name; you can only copyright a work. Is this talking about a trademark? Why would the trademark be dropped in the U.S.? In any case, some kind of citation is needed. - furrykef (Talk at me) 12:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chrono Break / copyright