Talk:Serbs/Archive 5

message: I very happy that someone has finally taken my suggestions. She's a perfect selection, but I think perhaps her image could be made better - how about a portrait of her? Like the following: http://www.znanje.org/i/i20/00iv04/00iv0403/00iv0403.htm
Antidote 22:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Without judging the choices, I think it looks good. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Image Change

message: I have noticed that you have removed some parts from the article, like this one (without discussion). It seems that Nikola dont want to discuss about Serbs, but knows everything about Bosniaks:
===War criminals===
Nowdays, Serbs are also well known by wars and war criminals. There are more than hundred Serbs accused for war crimes by ICTY. Many of them are threated as heroes by Serbian leadership and ordinary people.
The best known Serb war criminals are Radislav Krstić, Ratko Mladić, Radovan Karadžić, Biljana Plavšić, Slobodan Milošević, Momčilo Krajišnik etc.
--Emir Arven 15:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind having the truth on these people, and I deem them as war criminals as well. These facts, however, do have its place, and it is certainly not the article on Serbs -- there is Yugoslav wars, History of Bosnia and Herzegovina and like. If this is your personal vendetta against Nikola, then solve your problem that with him, do not vandalize the article. (Your recent revert war about Bosniaks/Bosnians is pretty silly btw). Duja 15:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I see your actions as malevolent in general, as your PoV is clearly to "spread the truth" about "Serbian war criminals everywhere" and "Serb nationalists everywhere". Your behavior would be more accepted if you don't treat every Serbian wikipedian as an enemy and every article on Serbia as the target for your agenda. Duja 15:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is regular section. If you want to delete it, you have to show good arguments. This article also writes about Serbs that left Croatia and Kosovo. So there must be the whole picture...Sto se tice Nikole, on ce vam samo donijeti belaj, da se izrazima na bosanskom... Emir Arven 15:50, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Da se i ja izrazim na bosanskom, i ti pravis mnogo belaja. Rat je zavrsen, ali izgleda nije za tebe. Duja 15:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ja samo popravljam ono sto Nikola kvari. S obzirom da se covjek fokusira na Bosnjake, htio sam da vidim sta pise o vlastitom narodu. Ostao sam sokiran kolicinom netacnih podataka,glorificiranjem, mitomanijom i skrivanjem druge stran medalje...Emir Arven 15:59, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Emire, ocigledno je da imas slucaj poodmakle srbofobije. Iskreno ti savetujem da u vezi toga posetis lekara. Nikola 23:04, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

text: this edit is a borderline vandalism. it is clearly an antiserbian POV. Half of the people listed are not convicted, and to call them war criminals before trial has no place in wikipedia, no matter of what one thinks of them. to brand 'Serbs are also well known by wars and war criminals' is malicious bandwagoning and also it is incorrect. well known is a weasel world which means nothing. you could say so about many nations, and such edits are quickly noted as malicious vandalism, and the users are banned as priority hate vandals. 'Many of them are threated as heroes by Serbian leadership' (sic) is strictly inaccurate. the edits a are clear example of a POV vandalism, possibly based on skewed perception of reality by some local hate-mongers that the user emir harven is using as a source of daily hate-inspiring reading. try putting a racist edit, and you will be quickly banned, and same will happen with all other hate-based edits. Suvarijeka 17:14, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed parts

message: Nowdays, Serbs are also well known by wars and war criminals. There are more than hundred Serbs accused for war crimes by ICTY. Many of them are threated as heroes by Serbian leadership and ordinary people.
The best known Serb war criminals are Radislav Krstić, Ratko Mladić, Radovan Karadžić, Biljana Plavšić, Slobodan Milošević, Momčilo Krajišnik etc.
--Emir Arven 15:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind having the truth on these people, and I deem them as war criminals as well. These facts, however, do have its place, and it is certainly not the article on Serbs -- there is Yugoslav wars, History of Bosnia and Herzegovina and like. If this is your personal vendetta against Nikola, then solve your problem that with him, do not vandalize the article. (Your recent revert war about Bosniaks/Bosnians is pretty silly btw). Duja 15:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I see your actions as malevolent in general, as your PoV is clearly to "spread the truth" about "Serbian war criminals everywhere" and "Serb nationalists everywhere". Your behavior would be more accepted if you don't treat every Serbian wikipedian as an enemy and every article on Serbia as the target for your agenda. Duja 15:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is regular section. If you want to delete it, you have to show good arguments. This article also writes about Serbs that left Croatia and Kosovo. So there must be the whole picture...Sto se tice Nikole, on ce vam samo donijeti belaj, da se izrazima na bosanskom... Emir Arven 15:50, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Da se i ja izrazim na bosanskom, i ti pravis mnogo belaja. Rat je zavrsen, ali izgleda nije za tebe. Duja 15:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ja samo popravljam ono sto Nikola kvari. S obzirom da se covjek fokusira na Bosnjake, htio sam da vidim sta pise o vlastitom narodu. Ostao sam sokiran kolicinom netacnih podataka,glorificiranjem, mitomanijom i skrivanjem druge stran medalje...Emir Arven 15:59, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Emire, ocigledno je da imas slucaj poodmakle srbofobije. Iskreno ti savetujem da u vezi toga posetis lekara. Nikola 23:04, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

text: this edit is a borderline vandalism. it is clearly an antiserbian POV. Half of the people listed are not convicted, and to call them war criminals before trial has no place in wikipedia, no matter of what one thinks of them. to brand 'Serbs are also well known by wars and war criminals' is malicious bandwagoning and also it is incorrect. well known is a weasel world which means nothing. you could say so about many nations, and such edits are quickly noted as malicious vandalism, and the users are banned as priority hate vandals. 'Many of them are threated as heroes by Serbian leadership' (sic) is strictly inaccurate. the edits a are clear example of a POV vandalism, possibly based on skewed perception of reality by some local hate-mongers that the user emir harven is using as a source of daily hate-inspiring reading. try putting a racist edit, and you will be quickly banned, and same will happen with all other hate-based edits. Suvarijeka 17:14, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: War criminals

message: Could we possible replace her with someone more qualified to "contributing to humanity" - I can't see how being a mediocre mathematician and the wife of someone famous makes you worthy of that list. Sorry. Antidote 17:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy regarding Mileva Maric

message: I think we should erase Rudjer Boscovich; there is sufficient amount of controversy on talk page of that article, and we shouldn't add oil on fire.
The bottom line is, Rudjer is only technically a Serb, by means of his Serb father (which is also disputed), but nothing (or very little) in his life suggests that he cared much about such things; assigning Serb ethnicity to him looks like retrofitting to me. Duja 11:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rudjer Boscovich]]