Talk:France and weapons of mass destruction

message: It is impossible that the Fernando Pereira that is the current destination of this link could be the Fernando Pereira mentioned in this entry. One died in 1972, the other led a revolution in 2003.
Mihoshi 20:35, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Fernando Pereira

message: "The skipper, David McTaggart, was beaten and severely injured by members of the French military."
Such a sentence may be misleading without context. Was McTaggart beaten when helpless, or did he try to resist arrest? Do we have other testimonies apart from McTaggart's on this? David.Monniaux 15:24, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: "Mr McTaggart returned to the atoll, but was captured and beaten up by French military officers." BBC  "He and his crew were physically assaulted by the French military. Although this charge was later denied, it was captured on camera by a crew member. The subsequent litigation against the French government, and the corresponding publicity, played a major part in the French decision to end their nuclear testing programme." I once saw a picture of his black eye on television. He reportedly could not see for a while. Get-back-world-respect 16:01, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: David McTaggart

message: found infos regarding a top secret base in french algeria called "B2-Namous" and located somewhere between Colomb Béchar and the Morrocan border. rumors are about chemical warfare dev among others and that the base was still active after the algerian independence. does anyone has reliable infos regarding this? Cliché Online 22:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it was real. i saw it in an archive video featuing the defense minister: video availble here: ESSAIS CHIMIQUES ALGERIE, so my source was actually serious. Cliché Online 10:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: B2-Namous top secret base

message: this section should be removed, it is based on a biaised rumor. antother point is it was the american COS that offered the french to use a nuclear bomb at dien bien phu but the french refused, as did eisenhower and churchill. Shame On You 22:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, please. "autonomy from the USA"? Show me one instance of the USA attempting to annex France, from WWII to today. What you actually mean by "autonomy" is precisely "prestige" or "being regarded as a great power", that is, having distance between it and the USA's foreign policies. It's silly things like this and leaving NATO because they couldn't deal with being second to USA that France gets made fun of. 121.108.242.207 (talk) 12:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Then again, perhaps the French wanted a nuclear weapons program because they were tired of being "cheese eating surrender monkeys".  —  Rickyrab | Talk 22:28, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: the dien bien phu part is a joke

message: The article "France and wmd" and "Force de frappe" talk about two aspect of the same subject, one of it is the relation of France and wmd and the second one is about the wmds themselves. I think we should merge the Force de frappe article into a section of this article. The choice of the destination article is based about the fact that the other title is in french and France and WMD seems to be include in some sort of X and WMD series. -- Esurnir 15:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. Force de frappe should be merged in France and nuclear weapons, and the latter kept a sub-article of France & WMD. France & nuclear weapons is at least as much related as Nuclear power in France than to "France & WMD".Tazmaniacs 07:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seeing consensus here and the need to update the article(s) to reflect recent annuoncement about force size, I was WP:BOLD and merged France and nuclear weapons into France and weapons of mass destruction. Madcoverboy (talk) 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging proposal 

message: "A fission device ignited a lithium 6 deuteride secondary inside a jacket of highly enriched uranium to create a 2.6 megaton blast which left the whole atoll uninhabitable because of radioactive contamination."
This does not seem to be supported by the IAEA report posted here:   Poolcode (talk) 16:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atmospheric tests at Mururoa & Fangataufa 

message: Why are we quoting wikileaks here in the wikipedia??????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.227.163.100 (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lightoil (talk) 05:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. It is good to use consistent format, but some of these articles are about the broader topic, and ought to be titled as such. If there’s a reason to do it, then the NW section can be split off from WMD, summary style, and we’d have both versions. In the naming WP:CRITERIA, consistency comes after precision.  —Michael Z. 19:11, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note there is a :Category:Weapons of mass destruction by country that contained a :Category:Nuclear weapons by country, and plenty of articles or subcategories in each.  —Michael Z. 14:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose.  As with previous comment, there is a difference between WMD and nuclear weapons.  There could be a series of articles XX and nuclear weapons, but some of those would have to be narrower than the existing XX and WMD articles, which would need to remain as separate articles. NPguy (talk) 20:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Support. It is better if the title of the articles listed here should be country name first then nuclear weapons rather than country name first then weapons of mass destruction. KevinNov3 (talk) 09:44, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Oh, I see that such pages were already striked through and no longer a part of the ongoing RfC. OK. My very best wishes (talk) 04:44, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 December 2023