Talk:Bitters

message: I've moved some material here that someone posted on the Angostura disambiguation page.  However, that material, and some of the material already on Bitters, really belongs on a page specific to Angostura Bitters (the product).  No such page seems to exist.  Angostura Bitters redirects to Bitters (the general type of product of which Angostura Bitters is just one example), and the link to Angostura™ Bitters on [[Bitters], redirects to House of Angostura (the company that makes Angostura Bitters).  I don't know how to create the new article and re-arrange the redirects, but it'd be nice if someone would.69.63.62.226 02:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New page for Angostura Bitters 

message: There is no mention of sweedish bitters, a powerfull remedy used for centuries. 4.190.225.88 04:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sweedish bitters 

message: This page makes no distinction, it appears, between aromatic bitters and potable bitters, though both kinds are listed in the "Types and Brands" section. The main article is almost entirely about aromatic bitters. Should there be a subsection on potable bitters? There are a number of different styles and kinds of those, including amaro, which should link to/from this page, krauter likor               (for which no page exists), amer picon, etc., as well as Swedish bitters (I know nothing of these, regrettably). should this be reorganized? Shabbychef (talk) 19:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  aromatic vs. potable 

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message: The first 5 external links are to company pages from the producers of bitters.  Why these 5, why not others, why any?  WP:Spam | WP:EL Discuss? 71.224.206.164 (talk) 05:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links? 

message: Is "bitters":
* singular?  "A bitters is an alcoholic beverage"
* plural?  "Bitters are prepared by infusion or distillation"
* a mass noun?  "Angostura bitters was first compounded"
A quick look on OneLook reveals conflicting views on this.  Still, ISTM we ought to tidy things up here.  But which view should we take? -- Smjg (talk) 00:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question.  I'm inclined to call it plural (bitters), though in some cases it's a mass noun.  Somehow treating "Angostura bitters" as a plural seems a little wrong perhaps because it's a commercial brand name, but I could live with "Angostura Bitters were ...." . --Mark Asread 03:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure.  Is the whole phrase "Angostura Bitters" a trademark, or is "Angostura" by itself the trademark and "Angostura bitters" just a standard English expression for bitters made by the House of Angostura?  (Another example of the latter: we talk of "Mars bars", but the trademarked name is simply "Mars".) -- Smjg (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: Is Jägermeister a bitter? As I've seen, Alko classifies it as "herb liqueur", not bitter. It might be wrong, though. 82.141.126.28 (talk) 01:24, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Jägermeister is the only one in the section "Digestive bitters" that I recognize as a liqueur. Though Campari and Unicum articles describe them both as liqueur and bitter, but I (and Alko) have always considered those being bitters. 82.141.126.28 (talk) 01:41, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just keep in mind that "Liqueur" is a legally defined term that includes anything containing at least 100g/L sugar in the EU, and only 25g/L sugar in the USA.  Anything that meets this objective qualification is legally defined as a liqueur, regardless of the taste.  This is why Jägermeister, Campari, and Unicum are all liqueurs as per the legal definition. Some taste more bitter than others, but this is subjective.Vapeur (talk) 03:28, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jägermeister? 

message: I reviewed the Torani article and see no mention of Bitters, herbal preparation or digestif properties or uses. Are Torani Syrups just flavorings, or are they considered Bitters? Do other soda syrups fit into this category?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.183.52.35 (talk) 16:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torani syrups are Bitters? 

message: To answer a recent question, many cocktail bitters are approved as Non-beverages in jurisdictions where such status is available. Simply put, this means a product is not treated as an alcoholic beverage, as it is not purchased for its alcohol content and not consumed like a beverage. This generally allows the product to be excluded from excise taxes normally applied to alcoholic beverages. It also means there are no selling/purchasing restrictions as with alcoholic beverages. Basically, bitters classified as Non-beverages are legally regulated as food products. Another example of a Non-Beverage are commercial vanilla extracts sold in grocery stores, which often contain around 45% alcohol by volume.Vapeur (talk) 02:29, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of Non-Beverage Status 

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message: Here are my observations on what is a really confusing and overlapping area of alcoholic beverages.
- Aperitifs and digestifs would not find a mention if a classification table of alcoholic beverages is drawn up. These would at best describe the property of certain alcoholic beverages. While aperitifs are a group of beverages that culls alcoholic beverages from the world of wines (eg fino sherry, mistelles, vermouths and other aromatized wines) to spirit based drinks such as Campari, Digestifs too cuts through the gamut f alcoholic drinks with the likes of several liqueurs, oloroso style sherries, grappa and eaux-de-vie de fruits.
- many articles on liqueurs and cordials make readers perceive them to be sweet in character (esp after quoting minimum sugar requirements in EU and US) to label them liqueurs) but the bitter liqueurs are sidelined or not discussed or weaned away as other spirits.   Yet, Jägermeister, Calisaya and Campari are liqueurs for sure.  The Campari label says so too about itself!         
- many of the beverages listed under DIGESTIF BITTERS in this article are in the real world APERITIFS such as Campari, Cynar and Aperol. 
- Unicum is drunk both as an aperitif and as a digetsif
- All digestifs, though post prandial beverages are not bitter.  Aniseed liqueurs like anisette are not
- All liqueurs are not digestif in nature
- The terms bitters is vague and often construed as spirit bitters i.e spirit based liqueurs (if minimum sugar content is complied with - something we would never know about each spirit bitter discussed)only.  How about the world of non-vermouth aromatised wines quinaquinas (chinchona) and americanos (gentian) are all (wine based) bitters, but not liqueurs as they are not spirit based, right?  Even this article lists quinaquinas (and americanos as a subset - see hyperlink) as bitters.  Happy about that but it is listed under digestive bitters - not happy about THAT! 
- and finally Pastis and Ouzo are liqueurs but are sureshot aperitifs!
WHAT A MESS!
Can someone corroborate the above facts and try to sort them out for me?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfection161 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aperitifs, Digestifs, Liqueurs and Bitters 

message: Bitters have a functional use.  Kegs of beer may not have fully undergone secondary fermentation and thus still have active yeast in them.  There is a particular taste to this beer.  Bitters have such an alcohol content that they kill the remaining active yeast thus prevent digestion upset.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsACityOfApes (talk • contribs) 18:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use