Talk:Białystok Ghetto

message: This article is not copyvio - the article's author is affiliated with the USHMM, from which the text is taken, and is deliberately giving the content to Wikipedia. We were notified of this vIa OTRS (ticket #2007071910012533) and it is all good. Please contact me with any problems. Phil Sandifer 19:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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thread_title: File:August 15-20 Bialystok Ghetto Liquidated.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: *Preserving here by providing this link. My rationale was "c/e; wikilink; npov". --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Uncited, yes. Unlikely to be found in RS? Hardly. Would you mind restoring this content? Here are the reliable refs: 1) Grynberg and Skalski rescue story, ref, YV  2) Turek, Smolko:  . It does not mention Godzins, but they are mentioned here  and also here . 3) Szyszkiewicz-Burda story  and  4) Kaliszczuk , mentioned in Gutman Encyclopedia    5) Buszko   . All it takes is a bit of digging. Information about Righteous and such is rarely a hoax. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:10, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit summary mentioned secondary RS; the sources above are mostly primary databases and self-published web sites: www.savingjews.org; db.yadvashem.org. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:08, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I am unsure if they are secondary. A first hand account is primary, but when it is repeated by a scholar in a book, or online database which is the 21st century equivalent of one, it may well be seen as secondary. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:10, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I go by Wikipedia's definition; pls see: WP:SECONDARY. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  So do I. And I find yadvashem pages like  to be very clearly secondary. Primary source are the original testimonies. The write up on the YV pages and like is "analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources" carried out by historians who publish those database pages. And even if you disagree that they are secondary, per the policy, "primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them... A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." Since we are not offering our own analysis or such, just stating simple facts sich as Person Y aided and sheltered Person X, the primary / secondary source issue is irrelevant in either case. I will therefore ask you, kindly, to restore the content you removed, now that reliable sources have been provided here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: The rescue content has been moved to the linked article. Please see Talk:List of Polish Righteous Among the Nations#Polish Righteous for rationale. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:52, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Polish Righteous Among the Nations 

message: pamiecitozsamosc.pl is run by the racist Lux Veritatis Foundation, I am removing it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crynot (talk • contribs) 18:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racist website