Talk:Crowfoot

message: While dying in 1890, Crowfoot did not actually say the words attributed to him. They come from a fictional book by H. Rider Haggard published in 1885. See article here:
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/9021.38.3/18.html
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/9021.38.3/19.html
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/9021.38.3/18.html
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/9021.38.3/19.html
75.156.174.240 (talk) 01:54, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crowfoot's purported dying speech 

message: The Wikipedia article about Crowfoot will be expanded as part of our educational assignment to include the following sections: Crowfoot’s early life, his leadership before and during the North-West Rebellion, Treaty 7 and Crowfoot’s involvement, and the legacy he left after his death. Crowfoot was a chief who was both a skilled warrior and an exceptional diplomat with ingenious foresight. Hugh A. Dempsey, “ISAPO-MUXIKA,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 11, Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed February 22, 2015, http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/isapo_muxika_11E.html. It was his leadership that helped bring peace between the Blackfoot and several of their traditional plains enemies as well as with the arrived white settlers and government. 
The first addition will look at Crowfoot’s childhood and his training to become a warrior under his grandfather, Scabby Bull.Hugh A. Dempsey, Crowfoot, Chief of the Blackfeet,. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1972. Furthermore, we will be showing how Crowfoot came from another tribe of the Blackfoot nation to the Blackfoot tribe and rose to become one of the primary chiefs of both the Blackfoot tribe and Blackfoot nation through his skills in war and diplomacy.Cheryl Petten, “Determined leaders, difficult times,” Windspeaker. vol.21 no.1 (2003). It will also include a part about how Crowfoot’s one son was killed by Cree during a raid and when Crowfoot led a revenge raid, he found a young Cree man who looked very similar to his son. Crowfoot brought this Cree man back with him, adopting him as his son, giving him the name of his dead son. This young man was known to the Cree as Poundmaker who would also be another major chief during the North-West Rebellion. 
The second major portion of the article will be Crowfoot’s role during the North-West Rebellion. The specifics of this portion will be focused on how Crowfoot had negotiators from both the Métis and the Canadian government to try and gain the Blackfoot’s support for their respective causes. When the North-West Rebellion began, the Canadian loyalists were fearful that the Métis would seek and gain the support of the Blackfoot nation, a confederation of several plains tribes, including the Blackfoot tribe. While there were members of the Blackfoot who wanted to aid the rebels in the hope of maintaining their land and independence, Crowfoot was against this. It was only due to Crowfoot’s respect from his tribe and nation’s members that allowed his decision to be accepted, even if many young warriors disagreed with his choice to reaffirm the Blackfoot’s allegiance to Queen Victoria. This decision meant that when the rebellion was finally put down, the Blackfoot were left untouched while the Métis and the native tribes that aided them were dispersed or had many of their leaders arrested, imprisoned or executed. 
Another portion that will be added to this page is in regards to Treaty 7 and Crowfoot’s involvement in the negotiations. This will include background information on how the treaty came to be created, the purpose for it, and how Crowfoot became invested in the decisions made; it will discuss the attempts made by Crowfoot to convince other Indigenous peoples to be a part of the treaty and his emphasis on ensuring his people were taken care of. 
The final portion of the extended article will focus on the legacy of Crowfoot. This portion will show how Crowfoot’s actions made him one of the most respected and well-known North American natives in Canada and even in Great Britain over his two decades as chief.D’Arcy Jenish. Indian Fall: The Last Great Days of the Plains Cree and the Blackfoot Confederacy. Toronto: Viking, 1999.  It will also present how Crowfoot’s actions to try and gain his people more food and support from callous and uncaring government agents brought him even more attention with the Canadian government.
Toriferr (talk) 17:22, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intended Updates to the Article 

message: I just read through your outline for extending the article and it seems like they are great plans! All your great ideas should likely be divided into subheadings- such as 'Role in the Northwest Rebellion, Legacy, etc. 
It would also be really good to add Poundmaker into the relative section of the photo box with a link to his wiki page. On the same note a link to Treaty Seven and the Numbered Treaties in general would be quite useful. 
I like that in your proposal you portray Crowfoot as a great leader (as evidence suggests), but as wiki editors keep in mind we have to write in a non-biased, non-opinionated fashion-- grabbing both the view of first nations and government officials. 
In regards to the existing article...
I like that the opening paragraphs covers the majority of his life and legacy. This was here already right? If so maybe tweak and condence it a wee bit to fit in with your revisions so that it is almost like a summery of the actual article-- hitting on the key points of each subheading. This way it will be more concise and flow nicely. 
The 'Early Life' section that was just added is very interesting because it goes through his different names. It could be good to add context-- was this a part of Blackfoot practice to be given a different name at each milestone in ones life? It might be interesting to delve into Blackfoot culture a little more in this section.
Overall, the bones of the article and your proposed ideas are super! I'm sure once its complete it will be a reputable source! Jj.Metherell (talk) 16:46, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits and Comments

message: This article is off to a great start! The introduction section is very informative and highlights many things that can be talked about in the article. Information in this section could however, be cut back a little. It is great to introduce the main points that will be covered, however details are better saved for later on in the article. Much of the information given here would fit perfectly in the "early life" section. 
I recommend adding more sections to the article. The intro explains that he was involved in as many as 19 battles. Perhaps a section on his involvement in these battles could be interesting? This could incorporate information on his role as a peace keeper. A section on the negotiations made between Crowfoot and Albert Lacombe over the construction of the CPR would be beneficial to the article as well. Lastly, a section dedicated to Crowfoot’s significance in Canadian history would also be great, even if it is just brief. 
One suggestion I have as far as formatting would be to tweak the structure of the introduction section. Some “paragraphs” within this section are only one sentence long.
Overall, additional sections providing more details on Crowfoot’s life and significance in history would make this article very resourceful and interesting. Great start and good luck!!
Jamie Lotton (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Editing: Article Suggestions 

message: I think this article has a lot of promise as long as the plans outlined in the post above are followed. The article itself currently does not offer much but with the planned additions it could turn out to be a very informative piece. The introduction is very informative but is somewhat disorganized and difficult to read. I would suggest creating a more cohesive writing style and syntax for the article than what is currently present. This article could have the opportunity to be not only interesting but very easy to read if formatted properly. 
One issue that my group had, that you guys might want to look at is contextualizing. It is important to not only discuss him, but also to discuss his place inside Canada and Canadian history. It would be interesting to find out his importance to Canadian History
I also do know if the media is available for this source of not, but a few more images could definitely make this a much more visually appealing article. It would also help the general flow of your article.
Good Job guys, off to a great start
Evo mather (talk) 04:08, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Editing 

message: This is a really good start. The introduction while informative I think could be shortened a little. There's a lot of ideas in the introduction, that do not seem to flow as well as it could. I would recommend adding more sections and some of the information that is in the introduction could go under different sections of the article. Adding more context to who this person from their surroundings can lead to a very good article. Also if you just briefly add his significance to his people and to Canadian History as a whole the article will be great.
Great start!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shann.dillon (talk • contribs) 11:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Editing 

message: Although the current content of the article leaves the reader with a lot of remaining questions, I think that your outline looks great. I believe that the final product will be highly informative. I also really like the idea of discussing Crowfoot's legacy - it reminds people that historical events are not fixed in time, but have ramifications for years to come. 
The introduction that is up right now could probably be edited quite a bit. Right now it seems as though the author just tried to cram all the information possible into the first section. Many of the issues discussed could be put into different categories, especially the information about his early life. 
Overall though, I think this is going to be a very good article once it is finished. 
Megan.R.Mc (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review