Talk:Standard of living

message: Standard of living is very hard to understand
A basic model for measuring "material" standard of living would include Mean Income/GDP Per Capita, material goods available/consumed, economic growth and unemployment. 
However, "measured" material well-being tells only part of the story. In many circumstances, "personal" and Quality of Life attributes and recourses make one nation or society an appealing place to live, raise a family, visit or trade with.
Clinton is worse than Bush
::That goes without saying, but what do you mean in this context.Jmdeur (talk) 17:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Even though that may be true about Canada and Mexico, GDP is still a measurement of standard of living, whether you agree with this or not. I think that it is important that a link to GDP remain.--MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 17:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  gross domestic product 

message: In a rich life happiness is not guaranteed.  In other words happiness is a state of mind, and money doesn't make you happy it just pays the bills and brings in the groceries.  You may have a career but you may not like working that job.
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:: read   Rjensen 20:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can anybody tell me about the topic: "standard of living has improve but not the quality of life"? Or, like me does no one actually cares. 

message: This line (completely without citation): "A more realistic measure [of standard of living] is the number of people who have access to free subsistence land."
How is this at all a reasonable measure of standard of living? That number in Manhattan is zero. Many places in sub-Saharan Africa it is above zero. Are we really going to argue that sub-Saharan Africans enjoy a dramatically higher standard of living than Manhattanites!?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.14.90 (talk) 05:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Access to land!? 

message: There is a spelling error in discrepancy and the example of Korea after the "historical" adjective before describing Germany can cause confusion as up until the 70's North Korea was vastly more wealthy than South Korea in addition to having a low income gradient among people. Basically the whole thing should be re-worded and expanded, this is a very weak and not quite informative  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.106.168.116 (talk) 19:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: The external link to international living website gave me a 'the webpage could not be displayed' error. Is the website gone, or simply moved? Mako Addicted (talk) 08:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website 

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message: However, there can be problems even with just using numerical averages to compare material standards of living, as opposed to, for instance, a Pareto index (a measure of the breadth of income or wealth distribution). Standards of living are perhaps inherently subjective. As an example, countries with a very small, very rich upper class and a very large, very poor lower class may have a high mean level of income, even though the majority of people have a low "standard of living". This mirrors the problem of poverty measurement, which also tends towards the relative. This illustrates how distribution of income can disguise the actual standard of living.
This whole paragraph needs referenced. The part about inherently subjective possibly should be removed. It seems as if it is part of an essay that was added.--MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 18:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable

message: I've travelled some in the world, and so have many people I've known or met.  In casual discussions of "standard of living" people (travellers) often talk about the state of the housing that people are living in.  And the institutional buildings.  Not necessarily how new or expensive the houses or apartments or schools are, but whether they are shabby or in good repair - and whether the buildings perhaps have some beauty (be they older or recent, traditional or modern in style, or maybe just quaint).  Also, whether the neighborhoods have amenities like parks and/or sports areas that are kept well.  And whether the streets and roads are in good repair.
And what about the quality of the available food?  Good, mediocre, or poor?  I'm not referring to the cuisine of the country, but the quality of the basic foodstuffs.
Income (or the GDP) of the country and distribution of that money may be related, but may have an indirect or even tenuous relation to standard of living indicators I'm mentioning.Joel Russ (talk) 20:31, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards of housing & related 

message: Hello everyone could you help me to solve this one and thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.202.169.251 (talk) 11:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How business organization add to a country's standard of living and quality of life? 

message: Moved from the article to talk page. The issue is that the content is very subjective and without references. It first claims that the issue is that there are only numerical averages used and what the issue is with that, but then in the second paragraph talks about the issue that not only average is used and distribution of income is used as well, and what is the issue with that. So which one is true? Moreover, the second paragraph has many assumptions and generalizations present which look mostly like original research.
There can be problems even with just using numerical averages to compare material standards of living, as opposed to, for instance, a Pareto index (a measure of the breadth of income or wealth distribution). Standards of living are perhaps inherently subjective. As an example, countries with a very small, very rich upper class and a very large, very poor lower class may have a high mean level of income, even though the majority of people have a low "standard of living". This mirrors the problem of poverty measurement, which also tends towards the relative. This illustrates how distribution of income can disguise the actual standard of living.
Likewise Country A, a perfectly socialist country with a planned economy with very low average per capita income would receive a higher score for having lower income inequality than Country B with a higher income inequality, even if the bottom of Country B's population distribution had a higher per capita income than Country A. Real examples of this include former East Germany compared to former West Germany or Croatia compared to Italy. In each case, the socialist country has a low income discrepancy (and therefore would score high in that regard), but lower per capita incomes than a large majority of their neighboring counterpart.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitar (talk • contribs) 07:53, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: It's misleading to conclude the summary for an article on Standard of Living with ranks on Quality of Life. Those would perhaps be appropriate for the summary in the quality of life article, but clearly are not in the standard of living article. As such, I am removing them.
Vbscript2 (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing ranks of Quality of Life from summary 

message: I got here trying to find out what an HTML "Living Standard" is (presumably some sort of standards document that isn't fixed, but changes over time?). Would a disambig be in order? Equinox ◑ 14:20, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Living Standard"