Talk:Beechcraft C-12 Huron

message: An IP editor rewrote the section on the C-12J (this diff) and did a real good job of it, too, to add in information on the C-12J2. Problem is, he used a preexisting ref to support it, and that ref makes absolutely no mention of the "J2" model. I did a Google search and came up with zero hits. I've reluctantly reverted, because, like I said, the writing was actually quite good, it just that the material is completely unverified, and appears to be OR, possibly erroneous at that. I'd be more than happy to see the material added back, if a valid ref can be found. Akradecki 17:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. - BillCJ 17:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, guys.  That came from me.  I thought I was signed in when I wrote it.  As for the sourcing, I am not sure how to tackle this.  I was at FlightSafety LaGuardia this week.  On the wall was a large framed Raytheon poster showing the history of Raytheon aircraft.  It included the King Air series and the 1900 series, with variants.  On the 1900 series, it showed the 1900C and C-12J variants, and the 1900D and C-12J2 variants.  Aside from the sourcing problem, I, too, googled it and came up blank.  Upon further thought, could this have been a military label that never took?  I'd appreciate your thoughts.  Mikepurves 07:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Mike, If I'd known it was you, I would have contacted you directly, first! A Beech/RAC poster can be cited as a publication, something like "Beechcraft Time Line", published by RAC, and the date (most posters have printing info in small print). Did the poster give any info as to when the J2 entered service? My DoD pub is dated 2004, so if might be something more recent. Having a number after the second letter is actually non-standard for DoD designations, so the J2 might be a colloquial designation either within the Army, or within RAC. One question to find out is whether the Army owns the -D models, or if they're leased from RAC...RAC is big on leasing, and the military is getting more and more into leasing civilian aircraft (such as the Army's TH-67 helos). If they're leased, it might be an informal designation only. Akradecki 15:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alan, I searched around the poster and didn't find dates or other references.  The diagram was of the "family tree" type, and just included a drawing of a 1900D in Army colors with the label "C-12J2."  The more I think about it, the information MIGHT be valid, but I don't really have enough to make it official, yet.  I will do a new edit on both in a couple of days (my computer is currently not connecting to the internet and I have a few minutes to borrow one right now), not to include the J2 unless we can cite to something solid.  Thanks for your vigilance and don't worry...the way my computer is set up, sometimes I get dumped out even when I am logged in and my edits appear under an IP.  69.19.14.35 02:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

text: OK, that wasn't deliberate...I really did get dumped out again.  69.19.14.35 02:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: C-12J2?

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message: Source that someone can use, including model variants not yet in the WP article: http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/categories/military/Intelligence-Upgrade_30732.html
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