Talk:Australopithecus afarensis

message: you have reverted to an earlier version and removed a lot of information recently added.
Why cant you write this in plain english?  phrases like
'Further finds at Afar, including the many hominid bones in "site 333", produced more bones of concurrent date, and led to Johanson and White's eventual argument that the Koobi Fora hominids were concurrent with the Afar hominids.'
is pompous and difficult to understand. Better to write
' Johanson and White found further bones  dated around the same time as the previous finds at 'Site 333', and they now believe that the hominids at Koobi Fari were alive the same time as the Afar hominids' 
If your going to write science, you need to write it in a way that the average person can understand. peppering the text with long latinised words and obscure grammar just drives people away from reading the rest  and is elitist. Please write in plain english  for the average person. Dont dumb it down, just dont use 20 long latin words when 5 anglo-saxon ones say the same thing.
:Please sign your comments with ~~~~ So that everyone knows who you are. As you can see by the edit diff, I did not touch the paragraph you are complaining about. What I did do was remove or modify language that repeats already given informaiton or that talks directly to the reader. This isn't a science magazine, this is an encyclopedia. - UtherSRG 12:32, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
Thats as may be, but you still need to make it readable. The sort of person that looks this sort of articlein an encyclopedia may not have a scientific background. No point in an encyclopedia if no one reads it cos its unitelligble to anyone with an IQ less than 150. Do we want to make wikpedia used by all or just by a few over educated elitist snobs ? Better that its read by all , surely!!! In which case, write plain english!!!
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Something that isn't plain English is that this article states the name Lucy comes from the Beatles whereas Lucy Maud Montgomery (a random example) was born in 1874, where the name Lucy appeared much earlier in history.  For the sake of pedantry can this section be reworded to reflect that "Lucy's naming comes from..."?   AsparagusTips (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  plain english 

message: Please I advise no one else to change Lucy's skeleton pic, this one is better than that old foggy one before. I didn't place that pic but I thank the person who changed it.
:that's my first picture to be placed in the wiki! took it on my trip to mexico, you're very welcome!!! :) --Danrha 17:24, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Pic of Afarensis Skeleton!!!

message: I was wondering whether the subtitle under the picture of the original remainings of Lucy is correct. How come that they are in Mexico, whereas the text states that they are preserved in Addis Abeba. The latter would be more comprehensible, since it was found in Ethopia. (A1977 20:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  subtitel of the first picture correct? 

message: I was surprised to see this as a live link in the article because I've been working on Ethiopian geography articles, & I've never heard of this place before. So I assumed that I learned something new today, & followed the link. Which led me to an article about a fictional character from The Thee Musketeers -- but there was a link in that article to a disambiguation page, so I followed that one. Which did not include an "Aramis, Ethiopia".
Could the person responsible for that fact please check her/his notes & assure me that the link is spelled correctly (or close enough to how it sounds)? Once that is done, I could start the process of checking my notes & try to write an article for it. -- llywrch 22:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do a Google search. It's legitimate. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aramis, Ethiopia? 

message: Small technical point. Didn't Lucy catch Johanson's eye. His book Lucy portrays it that way, "I noticed something lying on the ground..." (p. 16) and I doubt they saw it at the same time. Also, his book says they discovered the fossil remains on Nov. 30th, not the 24th (p. 13). Am I missing something? Can anyone confirm or refute my understanding of the facts. This would be much appreciated. I am a stickler for the details, and it bothers me still when I hear that it was Louis that discovered Zinjanthropus. Miguel Chavez 20:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who discovered Lucy

message: The Aquatic Ape theory is pseudo-scientific nonsense and does not deserve an entire paragraph under Bipedalism.  It should be entirely removed or significantly trimmed down. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.107.0.73 (talk • contribs) . - UtherSRG (talk) 03:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aquatic Ape

message: As referred to just above, I have removed reference to the Aquatic Ape theory (recently re-inserted).  Whether a valid theory or not, it is not relevent to a specific entry on one particular hominin taxon such as A. afarensis.  If it is to be discussed/debated, this should happen either on the Aquatic ape hypothesis page, or on more general pages on human origins.  AAH enthusiasts, I request that you adhere to the spirit of this request and note that I have also removed general discussion of the savanna hypothesis from this entry as well (see bipedalism for further discussion).  I feel that taxon specific pages should not discuss too deeply broader evolutionary theories, but should stay focussed on that taxon alone.  
While keeping it impartial to the differing academic views on A. afarensis locomotion, I have tightened up the English in the bipedalism section, and added some information on shoulder joint orientation, and pelvic and lower limb morphology.  I've  edited and retitled the "brain size" section to reflect a short but more general section on craniodental morphology as well as brain size.   I also changed the section on Social Behaviour, making it more reflective of the consensus view of this issue.Ucgaweh 04:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Changes 

message: Now that the bulk of Lucy's discovery has been moved to a seperate page, can we remove this page from WikiProject Ethiopia? Paul P 14:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Ethiopia

message: you authors of wikipedia are very bias! the earth has not been around for these millions of years, and you are incredibly derrogatory towards creationism. 64.6.121.48 21:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think current scientific thinking agrees with you. The Earth hasn't been around for millions of years but, billions.131.91.92.184 (talk) 22:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Nope. No assumptions. Just good examination of the facts. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see nothing derogatory in the article; in fact the article doesn't mention creationism once. QuinnHK 20:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a creationist, and I also see no derision in this article. it does, however, promote one particular interpretation of the data, namely the Darwinian theory of evolution.  Though, I can't agree with UtherSRG that there are no assumptions made.  When dealing with the unobservable past, one has to make assumptions.  Many assumptions are made here, as well as in many articles that deal with the remote past -- assumptions based on the presupposition that Darwinian evolution is true.  A creationist working with the same data, can easily interpret the data to fit into the model of supernatural creation.  The difference isn't the data.  The difference stems from the interpretation of the data -- an interpretation which is influenced by your individually held world view.  User:Hexc0de Friday, 2007-02-23 T 01:52 UTC.
See NPOV: Making necessary assumptions .. dave souza, talk 08:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  assumptions! 

message: What was wrong about my edits? Ludwig Kohl-Larsen really found a jaw of  Australopithecus afarensis in 1934 in Laetoli. You have to read the German aricle about him. He discovered Australopithecus afarensis in Tanganyika. But he didn't know, how important that could be. His work is missing completely in this article. - Suedwester93 12:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Put the info in with good formatting, and in a good position. Most of what you added was already in the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: In addition, your English was incorrect, and your information was unsourced. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ludwig Kohl-Larsen 

message: Some IDiots claim lucys hips etc have been altered, where does this come from? I assume there is no indication of it being true.--203.192.91.4 (talk) 13:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See TalkOrigins Archive,  and  both mention hip and knee joints, and you can use the search function to find other articles about the subject. Thanks, .. dave souza, talk 15:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forgery? 

message: An IP added this ref to the lead, with the edit summary that this possible new species lived at the same time as Afarensis:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/339522/title/New_ancestor_grasped_at_walking
It's not clear why it was added, since it's not saying anything about Afarensis. TimidGuy (talk) 11:04, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not sure why this ref was added 

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