Talk:Overland Campaign

message: The article cites six corps as being attached to Grant's command, but only lists five.  Which was the sixth?  Or were there only five?  Susan Davis 18:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You caught the equivalent of a typo. Please discuss such things in the Talk page prior to plastering big warning signs on the articles themselves. Thanks. Hal Jespersen 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Corps?

message: J. F. C. Fuller ("The Generalship of U.S. Grant" and "Grant and Lee"), if I correctly understood, deffends the objective of Overland Campaign was simply to pin down Lee while Sherman executed a kind of giant turning movement. He strongly denies the intent to wear Lee through attrition. Does that version deserves credibility and should it be represented in the article?M.Campos (talk) 23:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fuller's Thesys

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message: Why is the article not at Wilderness campaign, which appears to be what it was called through the end of the 20th century?  Has it been renamed for some reason? 
I was investigating capitalization of campaign in sources.  There's a recent rash of caps, most especially in the more specialized books – the ones with "Overland Campaign" in their titles:
21st century books with "Overland Campaign" (capped) in text:
* Young 2019
* Rhea 2017 
* Mackowski 2016  
* Hogan 2014  
* Dunkerly 2014 
* Young 2013 
* Smith 2012 
* Waugh 2009
* Bowery 2005
21st century books with "Overland campaign" (lowercase) in text:
* Sodergren 2017
* Gallagher 2015 
* Mackowski 2013
* Gallagher 2012 
* Hess 2011
* Hess 2011 
* Rhea 2007
* Grimsley 2002 
The trajectories over the last 70 years are interesting, showing the emergence of "Overland campaign" and its capped version in the 1990s, and the dominance of "Wilderness campaign" in the 20th century.
Insights? Dicklyon (talk) 22:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Good detective work.  I think "Overland" is current and best--as to C or c I lean to Cap. Rjensen (talk) 14:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: But why did the sources change usage when they did? Is there an influential work that caused the usage to change? BusterD (talk) 14:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "Wilderness" came from Battle of the Wilderness, but the much longer campaign went to every kind of non-'wilderness' there was. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:55, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree. User:Dicklyon raised a reasonable question based on Ngrams about why the trajectory away from the usage of Wilderness and toward the usage of Overland. I, like Dicklyon, wonder why the demonstrated trajectory in RS? BusterD (talk) 16:13, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Overland is very old too, and n-grams does not give context - but it would make it rather more confusing to study and write about a campaign, and one of its battles, and use the same name for both. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps it's something as simple as editorial MOS changes and nothing more. Someone, somewhere in the printing process deciding that a word doesn't need to be capitalized (or needs to be capitalized). Intothatdarkness 13:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilderness campaign? 

message: The undiscussed controversial move to change capitalization has been undone. Books and reliable web sites almost universally use the original title, now restored. In cases such as this when the move is not an obvious error, it should be submitted for discussion first, and not done based on the opinion of a single editor. If you disagree, please see WP:RM#CM and follow the guideline there for how to list this page for a move. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undiscussed move undone