Talk:Catacombs of Paris

message: important location in that game, sb. should add it  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.161.163 (talk) 22:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deus Ex 

message: Was there a reason to remove everything about unauthorized access? Some info I considered useful was lost with those edits. Also, I personally consider cataphiles to be an "integral part" of Paris' catacombs and think they "deserve" a mention & linking.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.77.96.249 (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, it's important. Without it, the description of what the catacombs are a grossly inacurate. And it's widely documented (if not in english, at least in french documents. but that's still a valid source). The catacombs are not limited to the part opened to public visits. And it doesn't have ONE entrance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.72.26 (talk) 14:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

text: With further reading, I realise that there IS a mention of the unauthorized exploration. But it's in the article "Mines of Paris". Maybe it should just be more obvious that most parisians reffer to the whole underground network as "the catacombs". I mean, if someone hear a french talking about "the catacombs" and comes here, he'll probably miss the fact that they where actually talking about Paris's quarry. And miss informations about it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.41.72.26 (talk) 14:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing info 

message: I think it would be interesting to have a little information on the specialized police force that patrols the catacombs. Unfortunately information seems to be limited, and most info on the web is en francais.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.76.87.31 (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can give me a reference page in French, I would be happy to translate it and reference the information in this article.  If you do dig this info up, and need it translated, just make a note on my talk page and I will have at it.  Spiral5800 (talk) 14:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cataflics" 

message: I removed the mention of Vagrant Story...the game occurs in a fictional world, not Earth, and the catacombs have nothing to do with Paris.  67.9.76.108 00:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vagrant Story...? 

message: What kind of a dictionary whould advise the reader to do or not do things, so i have removed "Unofficial visits to the underground quarries of Paris is an illegal and possibly dangerous activity. We neither condone nor advise such visits." Wikipedia is suposed to be neutral, isn't it?
:The quote you're referring to isn't Wikipedia's position on unnoficial visits to the catacombs. It's probably something said by the French police itself (hence the different formatting that passage has). Nobody is advising people to do things.
:Also, Wikipedia is not a dictionary.--Kaonashi 16:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedias doesn't advise things 

message: I've never (ever) heard of any 19th century families living in the catacombs, is this documented somewhere?  I suspect it's just a rumor. -- hibou 09:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  families in the catacombs? 

message: This is a slang term that the average Wiki reader can be expected to know.  The sentence should be made less opaque.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kdammers (talk • contribs) .
:Dealt with it.--Drat (Talk) 08:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure graffiti is specific enough, since in the catacombs a clear difference is made between art (murals, etc.) and tagging, which is usually just a name scrawled across the walls. Also, there is an effort made to search out & appreciate older graffiti (for example, the 1855 inscription "Vive Napoleon III Empereur" - "Long Live Napoleon III, Emperor"), which is seen as a part of the catacombs' history. (by the way, I am IP 82.98.9.227, I made a lot of the recent edits to the page) -- hibou 09:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tagging 

message: I made some extensive editorial changes to this section in an attempt to improve organization and also to remove some colloquial language. I might also suggest that the stub on cataphiles either be merged with this one or deleted altogether. --Todeswalzer 06:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your revisions!  Personally I think the cataphile subculture is fascinating and deserves its own page.  Though of course I may be biased!  To flesh it out a bit, the page could also contain examples of tracts as well as some of the really excellent underground photography that's out there -- such as Chuen Li Chan and her light effects as seen in her book.  It could also have a bit about the evolution of the cartography (see this site) and a more extensive bibliography. -- hibou 16:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Catacombs Today 

message: I was in the Catacombs for about 15 times or so over this last summer, and I'm willing to add more info if someone can perform some editing for me. Also, as far as I know, there are no entrances from any sewers or metro, though there is one on an abandoned train line. Also, one should also be careful, a lot of Cataphiles don't want this information up. :\ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DWRZ (talk • contribs) .
:Can you provide some useful, reliable sources? Writing based directly on your own experiences is original research. As for those who don't want the info up, too bad for them.--Drat (Talk) 08:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're not completely correct.  There are places in which the networks overlap.  And even the Despe (let's say the Giraud-Lafuine-Despe, slightly more correct) doesn't show every entrance.  Or even every room.  So keep in mind that just because you haven't used a certain entrance does not mean it doesn't exist :D -- hibou 09:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sewers, Metro?

message: I'm very willing to share some photos, as well as discuss certain famous locations in the Catacombs. The "Atlas du Souterrain de Paris" offers a pretty interesting way to do this, as does urbanadventure.org. I'm open for ideas, I have several random passages written down, but I've never written an article on wikipedia before. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DWRZ (talk • contribs) .
"urbanadvernture.org" doesn't appear to exist - was there a typo or is the website just no longer up? Jessie szekely (talk) 14:04, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  photos, important geographical points, legends, themes, etc. 

message: I visited the catacombs last month, and I am wondering a couple things that I figured would be in the article.  Is burial in the catacombs continuing to this day?  If not, when did it stop?  If so, how is it decided who gets moved there? Also, approximately how many people's bones are currently down there?  Can anyone add this info to the article? Thanks,  Doctormatt 21:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Yes, if we could get references for that kind of information we could add it to the article.  Anyone? -- Cheers, Doctormatt 22:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can help here - remains from condemned Parisian churchyards all through the 19th century, and the spot was used as a temporary morgue during the 1870 "commune" revolution (but I doubt any of the bodies stayed there). I'll check my sources and make some updates soon. THEPROMENADER 06:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The last comment on this topic was made in 2007, but nonetheless I figured I would ask that should this information be added to the article, please make sure to reference it.  This article is severely in need of reference works and citations, and every little bit counts - especially when an article is in the position this one is in, where it lacks any references at all!  Thanks! Spiral5800 (talk) 14:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: missing info

message: The entire Parisian sub-terrain tunnel network is popularly called "the catacombs", but since this is an encyclopaedic publication, I think it important to make a distinction between the catacombs cemetery, or "catacombes officielles", and the rest of Paris' renovated mines, "les carrières". This way we could not only retain all verifiability (reference works refer to Paris' underground in this way - unlike "popular" web-sites and personal pages), but make some room for some elaboration about the origins of the "Porte d'Enfer" underground cemetery - its Les Innocents cemetery origins, for example.
Perhaps we could move everything "K'ta" to a "Kataphile" (or "Cataphile") article - as the nocturnal habits of the same concern more the person than the history of the place. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 06:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As it doesn't seem to pose any problems to other contributors, I'm going ahead with the separation - problems such as the Météor Line 14 do not concern the catacombs, but rather Paris' abandoned carrières in general. All the same, feel free to comment. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 08:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catacombs vs. ''Carrières'' 

message: I heard this name as a specific place/catacomb in France and I cannot find mention of it in the article.  I was wondering if there was a reason for this. 
Just another guy trying to be a Chemical Engineer, Nanobiotechnologist, and Mathematician (talk) 22:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's written above the entrance to the main part of the ossuary once you're underground - specifically "arrete! c'est ici l'empire de la mort" which mans something like "Stop! this is the empire of the dead" Very atmospheric place, well worth a visit! Chimera (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  L'Empire de la Mort / The empire of the Dead 

message: This article has virtually no inline citations, and the one link in the "references" section at the bottom of the page is a broken/dead link.  I therefore added the refimprove template as well as a template pointing out that the article relies on a source which is a dead link.  I would also add the single source template, but that would be unnecessary considering the two templates that I already added, and also because the single source is that dead link.
At some point in the hopefully near future, if some helpful users are able to dig up some decent reference pages from some reliable sources and add inline citations where they are appropriate, then these templates should be removed or replaced with templates that reflect the improving quality of the references.  At this point in time, however, the article is severely lacking in its citations/references, which is why I put up the templates.  I appreciate any and all comments.  Spiral5800 (talk) 13:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The templates were removed without any commentary, and as you can see, without any post here on the talk page.  I re-added the templates, but replaced the vague "refimprove" template with the more precise "No footnotes" template, as the page does have a few external links listed at the bottom.  These external links may contain enough information to cite this entire article, of that I am uncertain.  I am uncertain, of course, due to the lack of any inline citations.  It would be great if those external links were turned into proper references for the page, in which case they would also appear in the "references" section and clarify where information has come from throughout the article.  Spiral5800 (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of citations 

message: From Poe's history: "Its walls had been lined with human remains piled to the vault overhead , in the fashion of the great catacombs of Paris" The reference to this tale should be precised.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.126.64.75 (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Cask of Amontillado 

message: Uncited and highly questionable. The Paris underground exists due to excavation of building stone and shoring up where needed is a trivial engineering task. High limits in Paris are regulatory - see Haussmann's_renovation_of_Paris. 206.47.30.156 (talk) 17:15, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. There are plenty of tall building in List of tallest buildings and structures in the Paris region. But anyway, if it was true, the editor could have provided a cite. Adpete (talk) 00:39, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Though that list provides few counter-examples. The great majority of tall buildings are at La Defense (42 of 74) northwest of Paris, far from the known tunnel networks and close to the river. Most of the rest are similar 103 or 104 meter towers built as part of two big complexes (Italie 13 and Les Olympiades) in the 13th on the edge of the River Seine, also away from the known tunnels. Many levels of uncharted tunnels, interlaced with what surely is a maze of water, utility, and transport infrastructure, is not something you can simply "excavate and shore up". The mine tunnels can be at depths of 30 meters, below layers of rock, which would be deeper and harder to excavate than many skyscrapers (say, those in New York City). This article, though not very authoritative, proposes that not only height limits but weight limits keep the city at bay. Marcinjeske (talk) 12:20, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

text: I found a ref (only took a minute on Google) and restored it. It still sounds overstated, but that's what the ref says. Adpete (talk) 01:27, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disadvantages 

message: Has this article been translated from French? I'm seeing some odd usages. I've removed the English language tags from two English websites, and I've changed inter-muros to the Latin intra muros here since I'm not aware that inter-muros is used in English. I've also tagged the first usage as needing clarification since it is not clear if it means burials within the walls of that cemetery or within the city limits. The second usage obviously refers to the entire city, but it would probably be better to eliminate this term completely since I doubt many readers will know it. There are other odd turns of phrase as well. Meters (talk) 19:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd phrasing, clarification tag 

message: I think a in popular culture section should be added with tv references, etc. and also the new UniversalLegendary movie, "As Above So Below"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE45:2660:543D:8F4F:48C7:731A (talk) 00:45, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture/As Above So Below 

message: REading about the catacombs, I started wondering what happened to all the other bones that make up a skeleton, since the pictures (and what I remember from a long-ago visit) show only long leg and arm-bones, and skulls. What happened to all the little foot and hand bones, the shoulder blades, the pelvises, the ribs? Hope this is an okay question to ask. Thank you.Eelizzie (talk) 01:44, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a forum (for such discussions), but I can say that Hericart de Thury (the successor to the first catacombs-consolidation overseer Charles-Axel Guillaumot) undertook the task of finding a more 'artistic' bone presentation (rather than the unorganised jumble of bones existing then): he prioritised the more 'sightly' skulls and straighter (thus stackable) bones for building the bone-pile facade, and that covered (the rather jumbled) everything behind. But since it was necessary to ask this question, perhaps there's place for it in the article... TP ✎ ✓ 19:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catacombs/Paris 

message: Substituted at 11:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: , , , . You have been repeatedly removing referenced material from the article which states that "As Above, So Below, released in 2014, was the first production that secured permission from the French government to film in the catacombs". Other references are available:
Please explain your argument for removing this information.Greyjoy talk 11:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: As Above So Below

message: 320px Njchurchill (talk) 22:01, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~  Amory (u • t • c) 22:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2018 

message: the paris catacombs 216.227.107.220 (talk) 22:03, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  talk