Talk:Operation Clambake/Archive 2

message: *I have standardized all of the citations within the article using Wikipedia:Citation templates.  Cirt 21:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standardized cites 

message: I am a little surprised that there is no mention of any criticism of the site's reporting, from neutral corners. Parts of the presentation on Operation Clambake are clearly misleading; contrast e.g. Clambake's presentation at 
1. http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html
with the information given in section 175 of the Foster report (a very well-known document, written several decades ago for the UK government; note the wording "Cancels HCO Pol Ltr 18 October 67 issue IV")
2. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/audit/foster07.html
and the conclusions spelled out here:
3. http://www.bernie.cncfamily.com/freddie/materials/fairgame.html
Andreas can hardly claim to be unaware of the above facts, since I am sure they must have been pointed out to him many times over. Indeed, if you click on his "A second opinion" bubble, and then click further links, you may eventually get to a post saying much the same as above; however, the right thing to do for Andreas would simply be to correct his Fair Game page (as should umpteen other critics' sites). No? -- Jayen466 21:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of criticism 

message: The Committee: Gerry Armstrong, Canada, Artist - Ursula Caberta, Director of the Task Force on Scientology, Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg - Prof. Claire Champollion, Linguist, Researcher and Author, Paris, France - Joe Cisar M.S. , Cleveland, Ohio, Vietnam Veteran, Journalist - Prof. Dr. Alexander Dvorkin, Moscow, Director of the St. Irenaeus-of-Lyon-Center - Rev. Thomas Gandow, Berlin, Germany, Publisher Berliner Dialog - Mike Garde, Dublin, Dialogue Ireland - Roger Gonnet, Paris, Author - Friedrich Griess, Vienna, Engineer, Press spokesman of the Gesellschaft gegen Kultgefahren Österreich - Birgitta Harrington, Accountant, Helsingborg, Sweden - Tilman Hausherr, Berlin, Software-Developer - Ursula MacKenzie, Retiree, London - Solveig Prass, Business Manager, Leipzig, EBI Leipzig, Prof. Dr. Johannes Aagaard, Aarhus, Denmark, President of the Dialog Center International (DCI)
Source: http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/020406a.htm
Despite the name, the award is all about Scientology, rather than a bona fide human rights award. That should at least be mentioned. 172.188.201.48 (talk) 21:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leipzig Award Committee members 

message: In "Confirmed: Crusaders Google Bomb Scientology", the author seems to be completely unaware that xenu.net has been in the #3 slot for a while, after years in the #2 spot until bumped by Wikipedia. AndroidCat (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right.  That source is only used as a reference to show that people have attempted to use the Google Bomb to drive up its result in searches even higher, to the #1 spot - not what the actual search results are.  Cirt (talk) 21:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a great reference 

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Will add these in soon, there's a bunch more references related to recent events involving Project Chanology, Jason Beghe and other stuff.  Cirt (talk) 08:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources to add 

message: Thanks for restructuring and bringing together all the scholarly material in one section, that's great. Jayen466 23:04, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are welcome. Cirt (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructure 

message: We can drop this statement, if editors prefer – I suppose it is OR, really – but I would consider it uncontentious and easily verifiable. While looking for sources, I just came across a number of such uses and thought it was fair to the site to mention it. Some examples:     Jayen466 10:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Cited as an archival resource by scholars in academic works" would be more accurate. Cirt (talk) 13:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, much better. Jayen466 13:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: . Cirt (talk) 13:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

text: No, and I have not come across that in secondary sources. Cirt (talk) 15:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't think it's so bad. It's a discussion about where the site sits in the overall discourse, from a sociological perspective. I think it's relevant to the overall balance of the article. --Slashme (talk) 06:19, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use by scholars as convenience link 

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