Talk:England–Germany football rivalry

message: This is what I've been trawling through for in particular. 
The TimesTuesday, Nov 14, 1899; pg. 11
::FOOTBALL
The German tour was definitely arranged and the English players will include C.Wreford Brown (captain), G.P. Wilson, H.R. Barrett, W.H. Waller, E.D. Brown and Stanley Briggs, with the following professionals - Back, Sunderland; Needham, Sheffield United; Crabtree, Aston Villa; Cox, Deby County; Chadwick, Brunley; Rogers, Newcastle; and Fred Foreman, Notts Forest. November 20 is the day of sailing. There will be two matches in Berlin and one each in Carlsruhe and Prague.
:::Okay that last one is the one I was really looking for. With those players it was obviously not some Mickey Mouse tour. This was a fully representative English FA side. There were top players of their day. Jooler 17:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The squad

message: This game does not appear to be officially recordied as a full international, but it is reported in The Times.
It's not worth putting the following details in the article but for the record. 
Transcript of The Times Saturday, Sep 14, 1901; pg. 12.
::FOOTBALL - THE GERMAN TOUR IN ENGLAND
The amateur and professional Association elevens, which are to play the German team of football players on the Tottenham Hotspur ground on the 21st inst., and the Manchester City ground on the 25th inst., were offically given to the Press by Mr. F.J. Wall, the secretary of the Football Association, yesterday. They are as follows:-
Amateurs - W.H. Waller (Richmond Association), goal; C.B. Fry (Corinthinas) and W. Blackburn (Oxford University), basks; T.Marshall (Bishop Auckland), J.H. Thwaites (Old Cathusians), and H.Vickers (Casuals), half-backs; L. Hales (Crewe Alexandra) and S.S. Taylor (Casuals), right wing. G.o. Smith (Corinthians), centre R.E. Foster (Old Malvernians) and B.O. Corbett (Corinthians), left wing, forwards.
Professionals - Geroge (Aston Villa), goal Iremonger (Notts Forest) and Compton (Blackburn Rovers), backs Fitchett (Bolton Wanderers), Smith (Manchester City), and Needham (Sheffield United), halfbacks; Whittaker (Blackburn Rovers) and Bloomer (Derby County), right wing, Calvey (Notts Forest), centre, Wooldridge (Wolverhampton Wanderers) and Wharton (Small Heath) left wings, forwards.
The German team are due in London on Friday next.
There is a fairly decent and fair match report for the first game in The Times, Monday, Sep 23, 1901; pg. 10., but for the second game it barely gets a mention. The report of The Times, Thursday, Sep 26, 1901; pg. 8; says - "Yesterday at Manchester, the German football eleven met a professional side chosen by the Football Association. The German team were outclassed at every turn, and the English professionals won quite easily by ten goals to none." and that's all. Jooler 16:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very impressive research! Well done! Angmering 18:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Squads for the 1901 games

message: does anyone else feel the rivalry has become more friendly in recent years? England and Germany are two of the only teams that aren't a bunch of diving ****s. I could help but sense of respect during the last world cup by the english towards the Germans.
Especially in light of the recent rivalry between Argentina and England. 
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:I remember walking into a pub during the third place play off in 2006 to find everyone cheering on Germany - admittedly against Portugal who'd knocked out England, but even that wouldn't have been enough in previous years. Plus 2006 didn't have an England-Germany game so the more direct passions didn't get a chance to get vented. Timrollpickering 11:09, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: softening of rivalry in recent years

message: The article has been constantly changed/vandalised since June 21, despite nothing new or verifiable being used.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.42.155 (talk) 10:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This was requested at WP:RFPP and I declined it - sorry! I did collapse one off-topic thread, but I'm not seeing enough activity to warrant protecting a talkpage. Indeed, in general talkpages are very rarely protected. TFOWR 13:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lock the topic? 

message: I've caught two mistakes in the list of fixtures, and there are probably more. Someone needs to go through it checking it in detail. Drutt (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

message: Why aren't the amateur matches of 1908, 1909, 1911 and 1913 mentioned? I can see why, but I think they should be mentioned in the text or that the statistics should be explained so that the reader can understand what the represent. 
http://www.11v11.com/teams/germany/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/England
EriFr (talk) 15:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amateur matches 

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message: Following their 5–1 loss in 2001, many German fans were not particularly concerned, instead revelling in the Netherlands' defeat by the Republic of Ireland the same day. Some sang directly after the loss to England: "We're going to the World Cup without Holland!"
Despite the (expired) source I would very much doubt that statement since due to this loss Germany was not directly qualified for the worldcup 2002 thus having to face Ukraine in the UEFA qualification playoffs. In conclusion it would be most unlikely to celebrate the elimination of another rival while being shocked from a historic defeat and unsure of one's own participation. However it is fair to suppose this took actually place at their high-score victory against Ukraine during the final game of the playoffs (4-1).  --Brandherd (talk) 13:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "Germany" 

message: should have a year by the name of the quotee 2601:602:9200:1310:A199:CEC:24B5:90F5 (talk) 03:58, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: intro quote