Talk:Monster Hunter (video game)

message: After looking over the whole "Poogie" box at the top, it seems logically that it does relate to Monster Hunter as the small piggish creature in all the Hotel rooms. I don't recall it being named "Poogie", but the description is accurate...permission to merge? Mister Deranged 01:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...not to burst your bubble or anything, but Poogies in Monster Hunter just stay in the hotel rooms. They don't fall asleep, and they generally ignore the hunter until you pet it and succeed. When you pet it and time it correctly, the reward items of the next quest you do are increased. Maybe you were referring to MHF or MH2? Mister Deranged 19:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poogie? 

message: I have been contacted by an anonymous user who seems to have done a lot from this page User:24.192.118.163 and who made this version of the page. He recently vandalized this page out of frustration, aProxy-Connection: keep-alive
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 seemed rather upset do to what transpired, so my question is why did someone revert the changes to begin with? It seems more informative as it is, and the only reason I could think for the reverts is that it reads a little like a game guide. However that could be fixed through edits, not through straight revertation couldn't it? As it is, I have reverted it back to this version. If by common consensus, this is seen as a bad move, I will gladly revert them back to the shorter version. However I myself will have to side with the anonymous user in this one. Please leave any opinions, and I apologize in advance if you find my revert to be counterproductive.
Galactor213 22:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted it, as the current content (ridiculously long paragraphs on weapons) does read like a game guide, and is more suited to gamefaqs. Bits like pellet list are completely ridiculous. I wrote a short description which suits the style of the article better, though this could be expanded into short descriptions of weapons. I don't want this article returning to the way it was. +Fin 09:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, and don't keep removing what you wrote on the talk page either, at the moment, you don't seem to put forward any argument for the inclusion of long paragraphs, where as you did a few edits ago. +Fin 09:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: And finally, a revert is not an excuse for vandalism - it would've been better to bring up your disagreement here, or on my talk page. Just a heads up for the future =) +Fin 10:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, well, I suppose it does seem a bit more encyclopedic this way. However I do hope that you take some of Mister Deranged adds, as I don't think all of them were too game guide like. maybe condense them into brief synopses of what they were, as a middle road to this arguement? Because it is true this article needs a bit of cleaning up and adding too, I don't think the disagreement is on that. I think the disagreement is what can and cannot be added in or thrown out. Just my thoughts. Galactor213 15:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After I posted on certain areas, I noted that what was said was from a long time ago and wasn't pertaining to the subject of my edits. My argument is what Wikipedia clearly states in the box at the top of this page, which says that this is one of many attempts to make detailed, comprehensive guide on Wikipedia. If you look at it, isn't that exactly what it is? I'm not denying that it's completely perfect right now--it's definitely not--but to remove the entire parts I made and replace them with a bland, vague description is plain stupid. If some editing needs to be done, do it! Shorten up some things that appear too long, because what is on the page right now is a huge, raw version. So, alter it, but don't destroy it.--Mister Deranged 03:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, I'll edit them today, try and reduce them into briefer synopses. And Deranged, from WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not....tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, video game guides, and recipes. And from what you said this is one of many attempts to make detailed, comprehensive guide on Wikipedia. Just thought I'd let you know! +Fin 07:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I gave a resonable edit and tidy, think it's fairly ok now. Hope it's acceptable to everyone! =) +Fin 14:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting (AKA What the dispute box was referring too) 

message: The article reads like a review. It uses 'you can do...' , and how underated it is by the press, among other things --ZayZayEM 05:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: As such, I will be adding a few references to the newly created page and modify and standardize as much as I can the new page.  All info on MHF/MHP will be ported there, though a lot of the clutter from this page won't make it there.
This page should become exclusively the Monster Hunter article, with a new article created to encompass the entire series. If it cannot be done, this page should simply be the Monster Hunter article and the series hub will be the template.LanceHeart 19:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monster Hunter Freedom has it's own page now 

message: I removed the vast majority of content for the article. All of it was insignificant and incredibly overdetailed. Smalled, more concise paragraphs could be put back, but nothing like was there before. If you've got a problem with it, discuss it here. +Falcon9x5 08:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Huge Clean Up

message: I know this isn't the place for this but has anyone know any info of a enormous dragon that is able to kill 100s of player at once. this thing is BBBBBBBBIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and only online. i have heard roumours about it and want to know more. look on wiki seem a logical place but it had little info on this bsob
At least you know this isn't the place for this :)
1) Only 4 people can play online at once
2) You're probably referring to Lao Shan Lung or Fatalis... Lao Shan Lung is the biggest dragon in the game, with his head and neck alone almost taking up the whole screen, but really isn't that damaging(unless you get close to his feet).  Fatalis isn't quite as big, but basically his attacks are able to kill most players in one- two hits. SuperDT 06:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online massive Dragon 

message: I thought the hammers were the most powerful weapon type, not great swords?  SuperDT 03:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...yes, they are, that's what my giant blobby weapon descriptions should say...unless someone changed them. Mister Deranged 20:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: That's definitely an immense difference, as this is MONSTER HUNTER, NOT MONSTER HUNTER FREEDOM. Make sure you know what you're posting in next time...but anyway. The Breath Core Hammer and the Onslaught Hammer in Monster Hunter are the most powerful weapons in terms of raw attack power, each with 1024. The most powerful Great Sword is the Tormentor, which only has 960. Mister Deranged 03:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It appears that weapons have been removed from this article entirely, thus refuting any arguments. Please refrain from starting flame wars--do that somewhere else. Mister Deranged (talk) 06:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Most Powerful weapon?

message: Roy (a random person) sucks because he cant kill the strong rathalos. Just joking, about the strong rathalos part. Rathalos is slightly intimidating, but is as easy as P-I-E. Just whack it with a light weapon (duals, sns) or a bowgun. Preferably with a stun attribute, but a raw damage one will do fine. Go to www.reign-of-the-rathalos.com for a pdf file of SnS and Duals weapon trees.
seany 01:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very true. I struggled for a while with a pretty weak bowgun (I didn't realise how powerful clusters were at this point) but switched to hammers and tore him a new one. Now I know the pattern that he moves in I can easily kill him with even my old bowgun (and a couple of cluster shots maybe). Perhaps it is worth stating in the article that learning the monster's attack patterns and the way they move is key to beating them, in addition to creating powerful equipment and using items. Chiliflamingo 18:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's not worth stating.  Wikipedia is not a game guide.  Also, this is a discussion page for the article, not a forum for the article's topic.  Please find a forum to post this stuff in.  Thank you!  SuperDT 03:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rathalos 

message: What happened to it? It was a great page, and couldve been used to put the monsters from the newer games in too. Resident Evil has a page dedicated to all their monsters (including many other games), so what happened to monster hunters? PitchBlack 17:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put it up for AfD, and it got deleted.  It was not a great page; it was full of factual errors, original research, and hints and tips, the latter two violating Wikipedia guidelines.  Also, just because Resident Evil, or any game for that matter, has a page for their enemies, does not mean that Monster Hunter deserves an article for its monsters. SuperDT 22:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Violating WP:NOT and WP:V aside, it violated WP:N, because the monsters are not all that notable; they have not been featured outside of the Monster Hunter series, been discussed about in other non-trivial media, and really aren't that much different than bosses in other video games made by Capcom.  Also, the article would have become a hotspot for vandalism and original research; for example, the Rathalos section would probably look like this after a few edits: "RATHALOS IS A CRAPPY MONSTER WHO CAN BE BEATZ WIF WEAK WEAPS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!. To defeat the Rathalos, you have to makesure not to be in front of it, use SnS, and hackat it while it's trapped." This may not seem so bad, but after removing this stuff, each monster section will probably end up with only a sentence or two, and thus become a huge messy stub.  Lastly, please see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS; just because there's another article about a similar subject, doesn't mean that the subject in question deserves an article. SuperDT 05:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of monster hunter monsters? 

message: why isnt there a picture on the MH page? like how every other page on this site has a picture at the top...just wondering why this doesn't.Dark reaper6789 17:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of WP:NOT, WP:CIVIL, and... Just kidding! :D  
Seriously, I haven't the faintest of ideas why the picture got deleted.  That's strange... SuperDT 03:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: this is about the duel sword "rage mode" thing...it IS in monster hunter AND MF freedom so i dont know what you guys are talking aboutDark reaper6789 20:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  dual swords 

message: The monster list was rather lacking so I added more info and seperated into three groups.
Not sure what to call the weak enemies like prey, decided on Pests for now. Also thought of beasts, though that sounds a little tough for these guys.
The descriptions are a pretty basic rush job for now, i'll expand and clean them up later, as should others.
Most likely it will just be direct from the MH monster list in-game, since it seems like "guide book" style descriptions are frowned upon. --Dissidia 02:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted your edits, for the following reasons:  We have had that list of monsters on here numerous times before, and the monsters even had their own article, but it all got removed/deleted.  It violates WP:NOT and WP:OR, specifically Wikipedia is not a list of indiscriminate information, Wikipedia is not a game guide and No original research.  To explain, The monster list may seem innocent at first, but eventually people will put strategies on how to defeat them, they get vandalized, the list gets big, and messy, etc.  In short, it's more trouble than it's worth.  SuperDT 02:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I probably removed these links on accident.  And that string of monster names you mentioned... I never saw that.  But I'll take your word for it, assume they were there, no harm done, no problem.  If you'd like, the articles that really need help are:  Monster Hunter Freedom 2, Monster Hunter G, and Monster Hunter Frontier.  Just make sure your edits don't violate any guidelines, and I'll look forward to seeing some good edits from you ;)SuperDT 03:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

text: So I've heard, but let's wait until some good sources become available to make the article, so that it won't get deleted. Or, we could just make it into a section in this article (When sources come out, of course)SuperDT 03:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements 

message: I've noticed that this page gets vandalized at least three times a week and is under multiple disputes in terms of content when the added stuff is clearly not needed nor wanted as per Wikipedia's standards.  Is it time to admit that we need to have this page semi-protected? LanceHeart 15:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can try, but I doubt it will be fulfilled.  Semi-protection shouldn't be used for content disputes with anons or new users, since it becomes biased, and vandalism three times a week is not that bad, compared to other articles (Death Note, for example, was being vandalized 30-40 times a week!)  Like I said, you can try if you'd like. SuperDT 17:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  High level of vandalism 

message: Now from what I have been reading there coming out with a Monster Hunter 2...
But as it seems this discussion says that the Mh 2 is going to be for Psp but it is said to be put on Ps2 in japan it is called Monster hunter Dos.
as it even states that it was made "After" the Expan on the psp, which he proclaims to be MH 2. it is said that it itself connects with the Psp version. And allows you to Upload your old Mh 1 characters, so why is it we have him telling us that Mh 2 is for Psp? the info that I know is that, yes. they are coming out with a 3rd for Ps3 But What I Hear is, it was to make more money, MH2 is for anyone not wanting to buy the ps3 since Ps3 is costly, and... on put it on the Ps3 for graphics and more Dragons, monsters, items, extra money, data, etc. My understanding is that MH 2 might not be coming out to the states or other wise. I have seen the movie trailers for MH2 made by them and even stated by them that it is made for ps2 Thou you guys might have something to comment I don't know if that this Mh2 is just some kinda of fluke that they stopped working on and starting making a number 3 this is just what I know and I am pretty big Fan, oh and also I also hear the ps3 version isn't going to be out for a quite some time so like I commented before. its costly,  they might bring it out when they think more people have the console. I don't know.
this has been a quickly written note on Monster Hunter.
P.s most likely going to need editing.
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/751/751063/imgs_1.html see that website for pictures by the way the beach looks Welcoming :\ aside from the huge angry dragon.
:Monster Hunter 2 and Monster Hunter Freedom 2.  Do these solve your problem? 71.119.84.124 07:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with the main page 

message: just thought i would say but all of the other monster hunter pages (ie: monster hunter 2, monster unter g, and so on) are quite short. on the japanese version all of the monster hunter games are orginized into one big page. just thought why not do it to these. just sayin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.109.11 (talk) 05:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  combining 

message: When you kill one of the boss monsters there is a number... say 750.4  and i am wondering if that is the time it took to kill it or the size of the monster. Who can tell me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spoopy (talk • contribs) 13:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are they sizes or times? 

message: Monster Hunter 3 is now a Wii exclusive [] JayKeaton 09:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii exclusive 

message: This article is a mess. It is about the PlayStation 2 original game, yet it includes information about the franchise. It should be split into two articles, a proper Monster Hunter (series) with the information about the series, and a proper Monster Hunter with information about the first game only. I would do it, but since most is unreferenced, I would just create two stubs which would not be really helpful for anyone. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 15:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: I know there's a manga named after Monster Hunter, written by Hiro Mashima. Should a new article be created for the manga version, or should the manga be mentioned in THIS article??AngelicMasterMind (talk) 04:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the Manga version of the game. 

message: Is the Development Section absolutely necessary? I'm conflicted on it, and wanted to get other peoples' opinion.  -Pacific Miles (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development Section 

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