Talk:Porter Rockwell

message: why is so much opinion, not facts,  allowed on this page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.38.155.134 (talk) 03:08, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  mostly  opinion

message: Unless we can find more info on Porter's wife, which is doubtful, I think her article should be merged into this one. Caerwine Caerwhine 01:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luana Beebe 

message: There's a ton of information on Porter Rockwell in the History of Draper, Utah with some talk of his wife as well. It even contains a drawing of the way station Rockwell ran in the southern part of the Salt Lake Valley.
"Orrin Porter Rockwell had a saloon and way station near the Crystal Hot Lakes, just south of where the Utah State Prison now stands. The saloon furnished not only alcohol but food and a rest stop for stagecoaches and the pony express riders."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.113.92 (talk) 19:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great info in The History of Draper, Utah 

message: I'm confused. This is his daughter? But she had a different last name?
: http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/USHS_Class&CISOPTR=3000&CISOBOX=1&REC=1
She was married 3 time and moved out to california  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.60.84 (talk) 02:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porter Rockwell's daughter Mary A. Reid? 

message: There's a bit of an issue with comparing Rockwell to Cassidy when Cassidy served time in Prison, was a notorious robber and to Jesse James who was a murderer.
Those claims with Rockwell are speculative. He was never convicted (in fact he was implicated) in the accused murders. James on the other hand killed numerous people. Hardly a fair comparison. Cassidy was a train and bank robber. Rockwell neither resembles or was convicted of any sort of behavior even remotely similar to what these two were famous for.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.249.13 (talk) 23:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Butch Cassidy/Jesse James Reference 

message: The source given for the idea that Rockwell was an inspiration for the pale rider is a hat shop. Really, shouldn't we be doing better than that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.46.85 (talk) 06:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pale Rider

message: An anon user made this change, which altered his baptism date from June to April.  It may have been an act of vandalism, or a helpful edit, but I can't tell which because I can't find any information on his actual baptism date.  Can someone verify or refute this change?  A ref for the date would also be helpful.  Thanks! — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: — It is correct as April 6, 1830, neighbors to the Joseph and Emma Smith family.  Interesting reading in the reference added. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 22:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Baptism date

message: Another good photo of Rockwell is on page 61 of Frank Esshom's 1913 edition of Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 16:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Another photo

message: Joshua, in the old Testament, had God stop the sun so he could kill and carve out a place for Christianity. In Joshua 10
:13 King James Bible
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
The truth is that Porter Rockwell did kill bad men and evil men and if he hadn't, Mormonism might not be here. He was the Joshua of the Church and ignoring these facts or seeing him as evil is misunderstanding what some men of God are called to do and does his memory a real disservice.  
He protected what he thought was God's church the same way Joshua and Moses did. Watering down the truth is sickening to me. 
In the chaos that ensued after the death of Smith, the Mormons often engaged in battles with mobs of non-Mormons.  On September 16, 1845 Rockwell was hastily deputized by the Sheriff of Hancock County Illinois, Jacob Blackenstos.  Blackenstos was a non-Mormon but was friendly to the Mormons.  He was being chased by an anti-Mormon mob led by Frank Worrell, who had been in charge of the militia unit that failed to protect Joseph Smith when he was murdered.  Rockwell took out his rifle and stopped the mob by shooting to death Worrell.  Worrell thus became the first man killed by Rockwell, a total that would grow to 40-100, no one is certain, by the end of Rockwell’s life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.72.55.159 (talk) 00:58, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Truth Should Be Told 

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