Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Digimon/Archive 3

message: Here is a guideline on how to layout pages for individual Digimon articles.
Proposal moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Digimon Systems Update/Digimon layout. Circeus 17:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Individual Digimon Pages

message: I put this in the todo box, but I'll also mention it here for any discussion.
:all lists of episodes (1,2,3,4,5) need short (I stress short) descriptions and screen shots and follow List of Planetes episodes as an example of how they should look.
-- Ned Scott 09:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Figured List of Planetes episodes was a good example, but if anyone has a better suggestion feel free to list it. -- Ned Scott 11:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

text: A quick comments on Screecaps: I think you should replace the one with WPP text. Also, we want to avoid having too high-resolution screenshots. Circeus 00:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed.  I uploaded new versions with 320 x 240 res, and replaced the ep 2 one. -- Ned Scott 04:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, we all work on them in some way. We revise existing summaries, find better screen shots, etc.  So basically, just go for it.  No one is really assigned a position or such. If someone wants to add something or change how something is worded, then they'll just merge the information. -- Ned Scott 00:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not high-quality: it's off youtube.com, and I can do 2 episodes a day easily, and that's enough for me. Circeus 00:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, I try toanswer 4 questions: Who do they meet? Who do they fight? What do they learn? What do they find? And it,s notalways easy to sumamrize the most compelx episodes. Circeus 22:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think they really only need enough of a description to be used to identify that episode, since each series will also have a plot summary article.  -- Ned Scott 01:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

text: implementing ideas and now using a new template, , to ease both episode entry and any future style changes.  Also using that template's talk page as new guidelines for making episode entries. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 09:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  expanding episodes lists 

message: Should someone create a template to welcome/invite people to join WP:DIGI. - Plau 07:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's what I threw together so far, from previous messages I had left people when they joined: . It very much needs a grammar check, and could probably be worded better in a few places.  Feel free to edit this as much as you see fit. -- Ned Scott 07:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Be sure to use  instead of  per Wikipedia:Template_substitution -- Ned Scott 08:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:DIGI welcome template 

message: Created  to mark articles that are related to our WikiProject, just as  and  do. And you might notice I moved the to do page to be compatible with this new template. -- Ned Scott 06:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Created <nowiki>{{WikiProject DIGI}}</nowiki> 

message: I think each digimon should have their own page. This is because strictly speaking, their are different digimon. Also, it would help clean up the page. Discuss - Plau 02:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being different Digimon doesn't mean each gets it's own article (nor does it have anything to do with status or how important something is), but I do understand what you are saying.  If these Digimon are also used in the card games then it might be a good idea, but if not I'd rather us try to touch up those character articles before splitting them. -- Ned Scott 03:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: actually, although I'd like to merge more articles (and possibly find an acceptable way to merge Digimon creature articles) I think it probably would be a good idea to give the Digimon their own articles.  But keep maintain character-related information on the human character articles, then use the  template when applicable. -- Ned Scott 06:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I am going ahead, stop me if anything goes wrong. - Plau 11:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Digimon Fontier 

message: What is our position on this point? I'dlike to know what to do with the changes madeto characters article here. Circeus 13:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say revert, this issue seems to have already been addressed in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Romanisation -- Ned Scott 20:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliteration of long "o" 

message: I took the same idea that WP:Anime had for their participants section.  Granted we don't have nearly as many participants, but  I think it's a cleaner and more efficient way to handle the task. Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 09:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleaner participants handling 

message: I put a note on the talk page for Digimon Savers about citing sources, thought I would mention it here too:
A great deal of information in Digimon articles simply comes from observation from the show, thus making the show itself the source. Because of this there hasn't always been a lot of source citing in Digimon articles. Digimon Savers articles will be hammered with info in these next few months, much of which can't always be assumed as cited from the show as some of us only speak English. For the time being I would like to ask that extra steps be taken with edits to Savers related articles, and cite new information as much as you can.
As well as some basic info on how to cite sources on wikipedia, like using the <ref> tag.
I was thinking maybe we should put together some kind of guide to prepare editors and these articles for all the incoming information. Not just for citing sources, but any other issues that might come up with tons of people wanting to contribute to the articles. Maybe check and see how other similar in-progress anime articles handled the similar task.  I have this feeling like the flood gates are about to open. (not that that is a bad thing, hopefully it will help get in more wikipedians to help out on these articles.) -- Ned Scott 06:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing sources for Digimon Savers 

message: In the box for Tamers, Takato, Rika and Henry are listed as "Tamers", but Kenta, Kazu, Ryo, Jeri and Suzie are all listed under "other characters". Shouldn't they be listed as tamers too? Jedi Amara 15:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were listed under Tamers, but I placed them under other characters for a few reasons.  One, it seemed like a bit of a spoiler (although, not a huge one), and the "Tamers" section really should be renamed "main characters".  They become tamers later on, and for the majority of the series are just normal humans.  The navigation box is really just meant to help find the related articles, not really as a statement of status of characters. -- Ned Scott 20:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tamers infobox 

message: So I decided to go looking myself into the claim from WtW that Lalamon was really Raramon.   The claim was that there was a Rara plant that had flowers that look like the 'mon.  I couldn't find anything exact, but I did find a couple of pages that said "the rara tree, also know as Erythrina"  . The Erythrina does appear to have a flower that.. I guess looks like Lalamon.  Considering we don't really have anything strong to support Lala over Rara, I've gone and done a quick and dirty move from Lalamon to Raramon. -- Ned Scott 05:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: and note Talk:Lalamon -- Ned Scott 05:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've applied for a histmerge on the two articles. Shiroi Hane 11:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raramon 

message: imdb.com has some interesting trivia on Digimon  that would look good on the articles, and with a citable source to boot! -- Ned Scott 06:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDB is not a reliable source. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Granted, but considering the alternative being no source, I'll take what I can get.  But you do bring up a good point. I guess it wouldn't be a good idea to cite imdb as the source, but it is a good starting point to find info.  So I guess... find interesting facts on imdb, comfirm on a second site, then add? -- Ned Scott 07:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm starting to see what you mean. There is some pretty shady info on there, but it doesn't take much to be able to confirm or deny much of it. -- Ned Scott 07:10, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I've scanned it quickly and most stuff is basically a funny detail related to data available, etymology (most of which are probably megchan's anyway) or stuff thatcan be checked by watching the show. Circeus 14:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia from IMDB 

message: I've been thinking about this for a while and I think a landscape image might look better than a portrait image (like that is used on most infoboxes).  I take it that originally it was intended for landscape images to be used, as seen on Template:Infobox animanga#Examples, and a good example on Strawberry Marshmallow. An infobox is supposed to be able to give at-a-glance info to the reader, but most of our portrait images make it so that you have to scroll down before you actually see any real info from the infobox.  Thoughts? -- Ned Scott 05:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you refering to the Animanga infobox, the digimon infobox or the character infobox which has not been created yet? Circeus 15:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Animanga. -- Ned Scott 15:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think using the official promo art is fine. They don,t even stretch the same (frontier and 02 are shorter). Also, if you look at the actual Neon Genesis Evangelion page, you,llsee they currently use the movie poster, which is not very different in size from the images we use. Considering the size of the TOC in these articles, I don't think we realy have any reason to reduce the size of the infobox Circeus 17:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new images for infoboxes?