Template talk:Top Gear

message: Well, don't shoot me, but shouldn't Clarkson and May also be listed under Original Format Presenters? DBD 15:23, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct.  I'll add them. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presenters 

message: Shouldn't Top Gear Dog also be added, seeing as she was introduced as quote, "a new presenter". Davesmith33 22:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  TDG has been done to death elsewhere.  Consensus is to exclude it. DrFrench 22:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TG Dog

message: Well User:Davesmith33 thinks so in his edit here. If this is so, why not come here and make the case?  Why make a contentions edit that you know will be reverted unless it is to provoke another edit war?  DrFrench 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been pointed out to you on more than one occasion (and not just by me) that there is a huge difference between the person who was the producer and editor of the programme for more than a decade (the person who is credited with hiring Jeremy Clarkson) and someone who has appeared in a couple of features across two episodes. Surely you can see that?  Your constant attempts to disrupt this and other pages will simply lead to you receiving more and longer bans from editing.  It's sad that you choose to be disruptive, but so be it.  DrFrench 20:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of John Bentley is 'fancruft'? 

message: AHHHH!! The new colors hurt my eyes!! Revert it back to Green or some other soothing color, please!! --293.xx.xxx.xx 08:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, as requested.  What do other people feel about the colours?   DrFrench 08:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Overall, I like the original color scheme better.  The green feels a little out of place though. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 08:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about using the same shade of blue as the infobox?  A bit of consistency?  DrFrench 08:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that looks quite good. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 09:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the reason I used blue is because that it's kind of new Top Gear's (well, at least before S8) "colour"... Based really on the blue tinge to the logo. But whatever, I'm always adding colour to templates only to have boring reversions. Par for the course, lol. DBD 11:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair doos - it's often good 'be bold'.  But if you find your changes get reverted a lot, why not try something different?  Create a sandbox on your user page, then post to the template talk page asking people to visit your sandbox and comment on what they think before making the changes. That approach has worked for me elsewhere.  Good luck!  DrFrench 12:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Colors, The Colors!! 

message: The previous version of the template was much more organized  Who cares about vertical space? I've seen templates far longer than this one. The way it is now, the information is mushed together, while before there were breaks between the various sections, which helped organized the sections. El Greco(talk) 16:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My recent edit was just going with the flow, so I guess I don't mind if the format is reverted. The current format is more straightforward, though, regardless of vertical space. Anyone else? Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone else? Going once..... El Greco(talk) 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template Orientation 

message: I've moved the Top Gear of the Pops and Top Ground Gear Force from the spin-off section to the see also section.  This is becasue they're not spin-offs in the sense that most people would think of - just one-off specials for a charity event. DrFrench (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies if this has been debated already but wondered if there was scope for Top Gear Australia to be added to the template as part of the TG family? Dick G (talk) 03:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess we could. It just depends on where we want to put it. Does it seem appropriate in the spin-offs section or should a new tab be created called International version, be added? El Greco(talk) 21:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree it's probably better in a new section - presumably you could slot the US version of the show in there too... I wouldn't be surprised if Top Gear Live doesn't get its own article too soon and I guess someone will want that added to the template as well! Dick G (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. How's this then ? I added them in the Related group and the International versions list with the United States and Australia. El Greco(talk) 00:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. I approve! Thanks for considering Dick G (talk) 00:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. El Greco(talk) 00:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: His welcome what? DBD 01:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? El Greco(talk) 21:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was pointing out your you're/your confusion. You meant that he was welcome, not his welcome. You're welcome! DBD 11:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see. Silly spelling mistake. I fixed it now, thank you for pointing it out. El Greco(talk) 13:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin offs 

message: My addition of TGSM as a "presenter" was reverted. OK I can accept that if he is not credited as such. How about adding TGSM as a "segment" or a "see also"? – ukexpat (talk) 14:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to read the discussion regarding TGSM, etc. on the main article page to get a feel for the consensus regarding his listing.  It will make things clearer, and spare you a bit of grief. Drmargi (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

text: (Edit conflicted with Drmargi's) Ukexpat, if you hadn't noticed, TGSM appeared in the first two episodes of the current series and has since not reappeared or been mentioned, and isn't indicated to be taking part in the final episode. Before the second show, Andy Wilman wrote in his blog to "stick with him, because hopefully he gets funnier with repetition" - the fact he hasn't since reappeared suggests he's not going to (even though, presumably those "stunts" may all have been filmed before the series started airing), and his appearance was therefore insignificant to the long-term history of the show. Halsteadk (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks folks, I was unaware that he had not reappeared - we are behind on TG episodes here in the US. So no problem leaving it for now.  – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Gear Stunt Man 

message: So this template overrides the default  colours with a sort of aqua colour for no good reason that I can see. There's no reason to do this - the  documentation explicitly states that "changing the default styles is not recommended", and I can't see that the show has any particular affinity for aqua as a colour that might suggest overriding anyway (such as happens with football team navbox colours). The override should be removed, which will simplify the template and make it more consistent with the rest of the project. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen other templates use styling and no one makes an argument about those. I think it's fine just the way it is. El Greco(talk) 01:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's not a very strong argument. If there's no better reason to override than "I like it that way", then the styling should be removed for the sake of code simplicity and consistency. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  As there's been no better argument provided for these overrides in the last week, I have removed them again as they are discouraged in the  documentation. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot about this, school, work, and all. Until someone else offers there comments this stays as it was under the consensus. El Greco(talk) 16:29, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was no consensus, as it hasn't previously been discussed. Silence is only consensus until it's challenged. Why should this template disobey the instructions given in the doc page? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 16:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then are you going to challenge all the other templates that disobey the doc page? El Greco(talk) 01:47, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I do in fact. And if there's no further argument then this one will be restored to using the standard styling. These are not baubles to decorate as we please, the turquoise makes it harder to pick out links, and there are no arguments whatsoever for keeping it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see that. I see no problem with it. El Greco(talk) 23:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

text: (de-indent) I've posted a link to this discussion at WP:3O for wider input. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to me, also, that there is no good reason to change the default colours. Unfortunately, Wikipedia (particularly the English Wikipedia) has lost a lot of its original flavour in trying to become internally consistent and publicly reputable. For that reason, guidelines such as WP:MOS were developed, to ensure consistency throughout and make it easier to read, so that people don't get confused by changes in colours or style. If you can provide a good reason to have something other than the default colours, then I don't oppose it, but without any reason at all, it should be the default navbox colours. (EhJJ)TALK 12:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Right. Any further comments before I restore the default styling? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  As there's been no further discussion, I've switched this back. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template styling 

message: Should the Top Gear Race to the North be added to the "Specials" section? It was a pretty big challenge, and there's a nice detailed article about it. King Bananamoo (talk) 18:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely, I've gone ahead and added it. El Greco(talk) 21:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I am aware the race to the north wasn't a special as it did the usual SIARPC and news. I would place it under the epic race category, as they all had breaks for segments in the middle, all specials have just had one segment, that's what made them specials. Also the Top Gear Winter Olympics is not part of the list and that was their first special that wasn't for charity. salle81  03:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We've got to be a bit careful not to set a precedent that every race ends up with an article and in the template. The separate article exists because the race had wider notability beyond Top Gear, and a lot of background information has been published allowing a well referenced article to be written. I think it should be in "See Also". Halsteadk (talk) 11:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I moved the race to the north to the See also section and put Winter Olympics in among the specials.  16:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race to the North 

message: the company said : the BMW 2010 it have tracktion you can't drift but here in saudi arabia we have drift and i have a vidio you can get it from the youtube and this is alink : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-JC585m-M&feature=fvwrel  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soso 08 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  in saudi arabia we can make something impossible 

message: I've added "Top Gear's Top 41", maybe it would be cleaner with "Top 41" instead? 
I've added a pre-alpha list of sequences from each episodes in the 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Top_Gear%27s_Top_41 since I didn't get to edit/make the wikipedia page.
I'll update it when I watch the sequence 10-01, maybe later today. 41-35 may not be reprised today,
I hope that somebody else keeps a eye up for the two first episodes.
Would it be useful to add something like that "Series 10 Episode 5" after each sequences as a back reference?
78.156.13.117 (talk) 06:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The original production was "Top Gear Top 40" from BBC America, not the BBC.  See the talk page above.  --Drmargi (talk) 06:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Gear's Top 41 

message: It's not a spin-off, not even a one time. It's clearly a Top Gear Special. Moved accordingly. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race to the North 

message: is insisting on making this edit, adding Chris Evans as a current presenter. However,the simple fact is that despite a contract being in place, Evans has not presented a single episode of Top Gear and cannot therefore be regarded as a presenter. Speculation is that new episodes of Top Gear will air in 2016 but, as of now, only Evans has been contracted. No other presenters have even been named, although there has been plenty of speculation about Jodie Kidd, but Wikipedia does not deal in speculation. Anything can happen in the next 9+ months so it's better that we wait until we have some content that doesn't mean throwing WP:CRYSTAL out the window. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly the point I've tried to get across to this user.  --Drmargi (talk) 06:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

text: "We'll know it when we see it".  WP:SPECULATION, etc.  If a broadcast occurs in March 2016, by April 2016 we should have sufficient WP:RS to report on it. —Sladen (talk) 10:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Evans 

message: The Top Gear Nepal Special (Series 28) and the Top Gear Driving Home For Christmas Special (Series 31) are not listed in the "Specials" section.
Also, why is the Race to the North considered a special episode? TheIndianPianist (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing two specials