Talk:History of Boston

message: The Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts and West Roxbury, Massachusetts articles disagree on when Roxbury was divided. -- Beland 22:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roxbury dates 

message: What we really need is a single consolidated color map showing the which parts of the city were landfilled at which times, overlaid on the current streets.  This would be much nicer than having a series of ad hoc maps comparing different periods.  There was an exhibition at the Boston Public Library a few years ago that had excellent maps; I think one of them may have done just that. -- Beland 19:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps

message: for those who know how to fix citation errors, here's the link to the Earthquake of 1755. Does not mention what it was on the Richter scale though. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1755_11_18.php
:I added it. Thank you! - Jeeny Talk 03:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Earthquake

message: I wonder if the below quote is acurate:
"The Irish were held as an underclass by the Boston Brahmins, because the Brahmins were of English descent and Protestant, and the Irish were from Ireland and Catholic"
Whilst a large proportion of the Brahmins where of English decent, I would have thought the term British would have been accurate. A number of the families (The Forbes) where Scottish and the Cabot family where from Jersey in the British Channel Islands.
Also I would imagine the ingrained Protestant versus Catholic distrust would have been a greater influence then the nationality. Since the Brahmins seem to be made up of families from traditional Protestant countries i.e. Scotland, England and Germany.
What is other opinions on this? 75.195.14.0 (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brahmins 

message: I agree with the earlier poster who said, "Also, the whole thing about the relationships bewtween Winthrop and the Johnsons goes on much too long. It was barely significant, as far as I've ever known, in the development of the town overall, so its length here is out of proportion to its value..."  In addition, there is a reference to "the earlier 968 conquest of southern England."  What could that possibly be referring to?  I've never heard of anything like a "conquest" happening in England in 968 - nor can I find any reference to anything like that in any of the sources I've checked. Dtm323 (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with both. I am a genealogist. Genealogy can be fun for the researcher. It is often irrelevant in an encyclopedia once it gets back a generation or two. Do the math: First generation back = 1, 2nd =2 parents, 3=4 gparents, 4=8, 5=16, 6=32, 7=64, etc. Mentioning an ancestor that might have contributed 1 out of 1024 genes seems simply silly. It also presumes no children fathered by someone else and no adoptions which sometimes aren't mentioned in the records. Note that "inconvenient" relatives are usually dropped from the record. The whole business is irrelevant to this article which is supposed to be about Boston not Johnson. Student7 (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winthrop/Johnson Relationship Section 

message: Many of the islands in the Boston Harbor Islands National Recreation Area are now part of Boston; annexation dates should be added to the expansion timeline. -- Beland (talk) 06:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Island annexation 

message: The text is correct, on one hand. And very WP:TOPIC-oriented, which I appreciate. I don't want to change either. On the other hand, the text needs to make clear, IMO, that Cape Cod was a Pilgrim colony and more or less flourishing before this. They rightly considered Boston as being in the boonies/frontier for some years to come! Hard to believe. Admittedly with Puritans pouring in, this view probably did not prevail for very long. Student7 (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a mention of the nearby Plymouth Colony; "boonies" is a bit subjective.  The entirety of British North America was probably considered a backwater in the 1600s. -- Beland (talk) 00:35, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: In the boonies for awhile

message: I think this article ought to have, or at least it would be nice to add a new item in the See also references at bottom pointing to a separate page for, a list of Boston firsts.
By extension, this article is not comprehensive, and requires introduction of many more topics in Boston's long history.
In the 19th century, Boston was on the shortest possible list of the most important cities in the United States.  Entry 'Boston' in the index for Stephen Puleo's book, A City So Grand, 2010, shows, for example, that on a national level, Boston had the first: arboretum, electric public transport (in a major city), employee credit union, use of ether as an anesthetic, municipal water supply (one of the first), training school for nurses, municipal public library, subway, underwater transportation tunnel, telephone exchange (and invention of telephone), X-ray, etc.  And in the world: first electric fire-alarm system, largest and busiest railroad terminal, etc.
But search for any of these items in this article, and they're no-shows.  Not even the word municipal appears substantively in the article.
Providing a list of firsts will have another benefit:  It will encourage comprehensive coverage herein.
--Jim Luedke Jimlue (talk) 20:11, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: good idea. Why not make a new section on "municipal leadership". Rjensen (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Firsts, and more history 

message: Comparing this 1852 map with the modern street grid, you can see there have been major street realignments in Park Square, Bay Village, and the western Theatre District, including Tremont Street.  The article Bay Village, Boston mentions some raising of streets when the Back Bay and South End were filled in, and some rearrangement at unspecified times.  I just learned about the urban renewal (read: bulldozing) in the New York Streets district of the South End in the 1950s.  I'm wondering if the changes on the other side of the Pike were due to urban renewal, organic growth, or what.  It would be interesting to know when some of the old streets disappeared.  I think some of the rebuilding around Park Plaza happened in the 1980s, but I haven't been able to track anything concrete down yet. -- Beland (talk) 00:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urban renewal and rearrangement 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Boston]] 

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message: EDITORS: This should be included:
"John C. Hull first Securities Director of Massachusetts (1930-36), on behalf of the Boston Stock Exchange in response to October 1929, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression.  He was helpful in the passing of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 with his war on "unlisted securities".hinkttps://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRECB-1933-pt1-v77/pdf/GPO-CRECB-1933-pt1-v77-19.pdf  Hull gave testimony to the US Senate (Sen. Duncan Upshaw Fletcher) for work on the Pecora Commission." Thank you. Theonomad (talk) 22:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I was unable to find any mention of this in the source cited.  What page is it on? Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: 3,4 .pdf; 1071-72 congressional record Theonomad (talk) 23:13, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The source cited is a letter written by John C. Hull (a primary source); almost none of what he wrote in the letter supports your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

text: A) Why not mention the depression on "The history of Boston" page? B) Yes, I know it was a letter.  It was entered into the congressional record and the Pecora Commission ultimate findings on unlisted securities and became law under Securities Exchange Act of 1934  C) I prefer someone else to edit this because I think your not operating in Wikipedia's best interests by letting your animosity for me color your judgement.  You are wild with a little of power Magnolia677.  Theonomad (talk) 00:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your edit is not supported by the source cited, which makes it unsourced content.  Please do not add unsourced content.  Moreover, User:Wham2001 made this excellent comment at Talk:Boston#John Carpenter Hull - First Securities Director Massachusetts, where you added the same information. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: ,User:Wham2001 - Events in history cannot, will not change.  I can deconstruct the "20th century" on this page too.  Porter Motors was only in business for 1 year, Molasses Flood and Sacco and Vanzetti were thieves.  Again, what world wide calamity happened in 1929?Theonomad (talk) 17:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  20th century - No mention of the great depression???