Talk:HMS Ark Royal (1914)

message: :HMS Ark Royal was the World's first purpose-built aircraft carrier.
:However, another ship was needed, and in 1914 a tramp steamer was requisitioned whilst under construction. This 7,000-ton vessel was turned into the first purpose-built aircraft carrying vessel, HMS Ark Royal in Blyth, Northumberland.
She is either purpose built, or converted. Emoscopes Talk 17:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She used the pre-existing hull of a cargo ship under construction, the superstructure & internal configuration would have been purpose-built. It's not really a conversion because the would-be tramp steamer was never constructed. -Nakamura2828 01:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then she was purpose converted, not purpose built. Her build started off as one vessel and was finished as somethine similar with refinements for operating floatplanes. The first purpose built aircraft carrier was HMS Hermes, which was designed and built from the keel up as an aircraft carrying vessel. Emoscopes Talk 01:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

text: La Foudre was also converted it seems, my point is that this Ark Royal is not purpose built, she is still a conversion of an existing hull (just like Argus), and therefore cannot claim the mantle of the first purpose-built aircraft carrier. The first was the ninth HMS Hermes, although she was beaten into commision by Hosho Emoscopes Talk 11:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you're saying, but I'm more concerned with what it is trying to do than the semantics. I'm opposed to "first" or "largest" claims littering Wikipedia like this. I've edited the contradictory section (as you say) and removed the tag. Wiki-Ed 13:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reads good to me now. :) Emoscopes Talk 15:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: Not true to say that Pegasus rescued 400 survivors from Royal Oak. there were about 400 survivors, but most were picked up by the tender Daisy 2.
This Great Harbour: Scapa Flow by WM Hewison 
HMS_Royal_Oak_(08)#Rescue_efforts  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fine Hid (talk • contribs) 11:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps so, but maybe Daisy 2 transported them to Pegasus before she made another effort? I'm just going by what my source said.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Royal Oak rescue

message: Why was this ship called Ark Royal? --Dweller (talk) 11:07, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean more specifically? The name hadn't been used since 1636.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean it's a wacky name. What does it mean? Is it some kind of reference to Noah's Ark? --Dweller (talk) 15:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite possibly. The first ship was originally owned by Walter Raleigh and was 'Ark Raleigh', as a fairly common convention of the time was for the ship to bear the name of her owner in addition to whatever name the owner chose. When the ship was bought out by the crown and so became a national warship, the 'Raleigh' bit was changed to 'Royal' to reflect the change of ownership. As to why it was resurrected for this seaplane carrier, very much an auxiliary and support ship for the navy at the time, I don't recall that ever being addressed in any of the sources I've seen so far. Benea (talk) 15:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Interesting stuff. That Ark Raleigh information should be added here. --Dweller (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Citation: "Old Weather - HMS Ark Royal". Retrieved 2012-01-22. Transcription of ship's logbooks and weather information
does not seem to connect, can it be retrieved or a replacement substituted?: 
Sidpickle (talk) 12:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation