Talk:Robert B. Pamplin Jr.

message: This needs mention of the whole Ross Island thing. This may require a trip to the library due to O-vanish. Katr67 22:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ross Island

message: I thought we could use the following links to expand on this entry. They include more biographical information about Pamplin, particularly his success as a businessman. Also, I think that there should be mention of his corporation. The latter two links contain some useful information.
*http://www.pamplinpark.org/pamplin_foundation.html
*http://www.pamplin.org/chairman/doctor-pamplin-profile.html
*http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=941404  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omp16012 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Pamplin Foundation and R.B. Corporation

message: * Bend Bulletin 2007 story covers Pamplin's gifts to Shaniko, a wool producer.
* Oregonian story "Pamplin, as is" covers transfer of Ross Island to City. -Pete (talk) 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for expansion 

message: My name is Alvaro, and I work for Robert B. Pamplin, Jr. I have worked to develop an expanded biography for him according to Wikipedia’s policies and standards. My goal is to provide factual, well cited information. I have posted a draft of the article in my sandbox; I would appreciate any feedback or input. -Alvarofontan (talk) 22:19, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed edits for [[Robert B. Pamplin, Jr.]] 

message: Re: latest edits to article regarding Ross Island, some redundancy was created by adding a second reference under Philanthropy. There is also one key aspect from prior edits that needs to be clarified. As is outlined in the Sept. 12, 2007 Oregonian article, the donated area was never found to be contaminated. "The consensus: The portion Pamplin wants to make public is pristine."
Also, regarding cleanup of the island that involved other parts of the island, the referenced Oregon DEQ  record shows the cleanup was considered cleaned up by a 2011 Record of Decision.  So, I would recommend keeping all citations but combining them into one section (under Business) that reads:
: Pamplin's ownership of both media and major business interests in the Portland area has been controversial.[6][11] When the Tribune was launched in 2001,[12] and again as of fall 2012,[13][14] Pamplin's media holdings have been said to be engaged in a "newspaper war" over local circulation with the Oregonian and its affiliated papers. His donation to the city of Portland of part of Ross Island became controversial because industrial contamination had been discovered on other parts of the island. [15][16][24] An Oregon Department of Environmental Quality cleanup of the island was completed in 2011.[25]
 
What are your thoughts about making such an edit? --af (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The link to the article you reference is here. This article discusses the cleanup work in addition to the DEQ article you reference. Yes, the cleanup work has stopped, but the contamination still exists, which a typical reader would not understand from your phrasing. I do think you should leave this for another editor to fix due to your conflict of interest as an employee of Dr. Pamplin's. --Esprqii (talk) 22:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ross Island 

message: Esprqii and all, I removed the two passages relating to the land donation and environmental issues. As I have pointed out, both of them (introduced here and here) contained factual errors. I have no objection to the topic being covered here (and have suggested text in the previous section that I still feel would be acceptable), but it must be covered in a way that is factually accurate and faithfully cited to reliable sources. I would request that anyone re-introducing this topic to the article exercise care in reporting the facts. --af (talk) 18:29, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made some further edits and restored some of the deleted material. I think it's important to keep the full timeline of events and not cut too severely. --Esprqii (talk) 17:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed text about Ross Island donation due to factual inaccuracies 

message: Recently an IP made some changes. For the most part these seem fine, but there is are a couple small issues with the California Coast University line. CCU is accredited (since 2005), though it's true that it didn't have national accreditation when Dr. Pamplin matriculated in the 1970s. Also, while "online only" may be an accurate today, in the 1970s it was of course not online. So I'm making a small change, to indicate that it was not then accredited, and that it was a distance education institution. --af (talk) 02:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic degrees 

message: I have restored a reference that was deleted as "unsubstantiated". Perhaps that just means that the reference is not available on line? Anyway, it seems to me that some reference is better than none. The reference was added in 2013 by , who has a self-declared WP:COI. Not sure what to make of all of this, but per WP:BRD, I've reverted it and invite anyone to discuss it here. Thanks. YBG (talk) 00:30, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see this edit to , where I have encouraged  to engage in a discussion rather than an edit war. YBG (talk) 06:29, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Even though the reference is not online, we assume good faith when an editor cites a published, reliable source. Wikipedia does not have a requirement that offline references must be substantiated with a link to online materials. The deleted citation should be restored, and both IP addresses that have deleted it should be warned about sockpuppetry. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 08:41, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And so I have restored it. YBG (talk) 06:25, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsubstantiated reference 

message: Columbia Empire Farm, producing berries and hazelnuts products since 1976  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.177.161 (talk) 00:10, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Columbia Empire Farm