Talk:The Fragile

message: Scigatt 08:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: should it be mentioned that it's a nice double digipack? Kansaikiwi 06:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  digipack 

message: There's too many quotes in the beginning of this article.  I think one or both ought to be removed.  --Raid0422 20:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  quotations 

message: Between tracks 4+5 on the 2nd disc, Reznor can be heard faintly saying something like I'm getting closer/I'm getting closer all the time as the clock on my CD player ticks back a minus number (approx. 15 seconds).  You need to start playing from the start of track 4, and not skip back from track 5. Lugnuts 11:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. That's where "10 Miles High" would go if it were still on the album.-ABigBlackMan (talk) 12:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hidden" track 

message: Are there any news stories out there about the cover art? The top portion looks like a pixelized waterfall, and I am very curious of to the origin and meaning. Steveprutz 20:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Cover Meaning? 

message: I have a song called The Fragile (Unplugged) in my iTunes, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if this is a cover of the song, or if Trent Reznor actually did do an acoustic version of The Fragile.
  This is probably the "Still" version of "The Fragile". See Still_%28Nine_Inch_Nails_album%29. Steveprutz 16:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fragile (The Song) 

message: I think a discussion about the vinyl and CD editions is warranted; I.E. how songs are edited, and the different track listings.
: yes! please someone who has this knowledge do this, i've dont what i was able, but there is more info to be added on extended/alt versions of songs on the vinyl pressing. --AlexOvShaolin 22:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vinyl vs CD 

message: 1. The History section needs a rewrite and much better sourcing. The opening part reads, "The album was not as much of a commercial success as The Downward Spiral, most likely accredited to Interscope Records' lack of promotion of the album, and the lack of a stand-out single. Despite a strong start at #1 on the Billboard Top 10, the album quickly slipped out of the Billboard Top 10 only a week after its release, and Reznor was forced to provide funding for the subsequent North American tour out of his own pocket.[1]" A few problems. The source for this cannot be found. There especially needs to be a reliable source for the opening statement here, where it claims the album was not a commercial success compared to TDS and that this is likely due to poor promotion by the record label.
The last three sentences of this section, which are all stand-alone paragraphs, read more like a collection of facts than they do about the history of the album. They need to be distributed more appropriately into the article.
2. The Critical Response section has no sources and I'm puzzled as to why the review from Pitchfork was taken with such seriousness as to warrant mention in the article, much less in the side box with the rest of the reviews. I think, if we're going to use a variety of reviews that include both praise and criticism, we might want to use a better, more professionally done review than the review from Pitchfork, as well as include quotes from the reviewers to supplement the section.
3. Many songs from this album have been used in various movies, and TV shows, including 300, Man on Fire, Final Destination, CSI, etc. A section could be made to reflect this and other uses of songs from this album in popular culture, including any covers.
4. The Track Listing section and "The New Flesh" sections need sources.
5. Could benefit from a few more fair use images. --Ubiq (talk) 17:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: Alot of people say that it isn't a continuation, People outside Wikipedia in forums like Songmeanings.comsongmeanings say that The Fragile is it's own album and not a continuation. This continuation thing isn't really a fact, but a theory of what Trent Reznor thinks it is. Should that be taken off or left? A theory isn't a fact is it? --Nightingale12 (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A continuation to The Downward Sprial? 

message: That was refering to the time before it was edited, my bad. delete this comment and the other one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightingale12 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry, delete that last comment. 

message: I know this is one of those albums that everyone calls a concept album, but is there an proof of this? No sources online call it one, I don't remember Trent ever really describing a concept, and I can't find a single reliable source that calls it one?. Ridernyc (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Concept Album

message: [Firstly, go to youtube or grab your album because you're going to need it.]
A careful listener can name at least 4 motifs (but who knows, there can be more!) of "The Fragile":
1. (mentioned in the article) "THE FRAIL" piano melody is later played on guitar in "THE FRAGILE".
2. (mentioned in the article) the piano melody which appears at the end of "WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER" in a tempo of 100BPM is later played in 124BPM on "LA MER" and on "INTO THE VOID". (of course these two songs share some more elements than just the piano theme).
Now the less obvious stuff: 
3. In the song "THE GREAT BELOW" there is a three-note melody played between the words "I can still feel you" and "even so far away" (many times in the song). The words "All I do" from "Underneath It All" are sung in exactly the same melody. Moreover, the words, "I can still feel you" are also sung in the same way in both songs.
4. Part of the acoustic guitar melody motif introduced in the 17th second of "THE BIG COME DOWN" is later played in the last song "RIPE (WITH DECAY) (only on CD and casette versions) starting with 6:03 in the song.
5. As a bonus: the wordless vocal harmonies from "THE GREAT BELOW" are shared with "AND ALL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN", a fan-favourite non-album song from The Fragile era of NIN. ;)
You can check it out yourself.
And my point is: should these informations be written in the article? They are very interesting and add depth to the album. Everyone can check what I have written. So it's kind of reliable. So? I think it would be nice to write at least that there are more motifs on The Fragile than it seems. Reznor did a great job with the album, why not inform others about it? I'm really curious of your answers.
PS Sorry for all the mistakes, I'm a non-english speaker.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.174.199 (talk) 12:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fragile motif 

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