Talk:Faravahar

message: I changed two spellings: the variant fravahr to the more common alternate fravashi and sepanta mainyu to spenta mainyu. I'll expand this whole article later. Khirad 15:04, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
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message: the faravahor symbol is more than just a zoroastrian religious symbol. this should be mentioned in the article. imagine a tourist that visits iran and sees faravahar gold necklaces and jewlery in all shops and sees the faravahar symbol in all gift shops at bazaars and airports. wouldn't he want to know why this symbol is so widely used everywhere in iran? because currently 99% of iranians are not zoroastrians. my point is this article has totally neglected what the faravahar symbol represent in present-day iran. to put it briefly: for most iranian people in present day iran, faravahar is a symbol of ancient persia and it represents their rich history. this needs to be explained clearly in the article. 86.212.104.214 (talk) 17:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A. Wikipedia is not: 1.Wikipedia is not a guidebook, 2. Wikipedia is not a directory, .. . It is not wikipedia duty to say hey tourist of Iran, Faravahar in Iran is not what you read in encyclopaedias. B. YOur sources: 1. a weblog, that is not WP:RS, 2. A reference to wikipedia, again not RS. 3. You have violated WP:3RR. So stop. that's it.--Xashaiar (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Cool down buddy. you are not in charge of wikipedia, any more than i am. so control your tone and start assuming good faith and listen to the argument. Better sources can be found to verify the fact that faravahar is also a *national* symbol in iran. Is that your only problem, or is there something else that you don't agree with? 86.212.104.214 (talk) 18:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: good luck. You will be reverted very soon.--Xashaiar (talk) 18:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  faravahar as a national symbol of iran 

message: I get exactly six Ghits on Farekiani, and one of them is us. The only Gbook hit I get is us. I don't see this move going forward without a lot more documentation. Mangoe (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this conversation is not about this recent move, but I reinstated it. User Alborzagros seemingly has an agenda in moving the page, as it was done without discussion in 2018 and twice in 2014 -- all to different transliterations, just not Faravahar. Yet the page clearly was written using Faravahar as the primary term. Also, of note, as I stated in my edit summary, that this naming convention (alternate name in parenthesis rather than explanation) is very much not standard, especially as there was no need for any disambiguation at all. JesseRafe (talk) 19:01, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent move 

message: "The Faravahar is the most worn pendant among Iranians and has become a secular national symbol, rather than a religious symbol. It symbolizes Good thoughts ( pendār-e nik), Good words ( goftār-e nik) and Good deeds ( kerdār-e nik), which are the basic tenets and principles of Zoroastrianism."
Is this some Yazdi Persian dialect? Never heard of the words "nik" and "kerdār" (which is "kardan" in formal Persian). --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The words "nik" (good) and "kerdâr" (deed) are purely Persian. Thus, i would say that the translation is correct.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 00:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct translation of Good thoughts, Good words and Good deeds? 

message: Almost all the content of this article could be deleted as unsourced content - and, since it is also badly written, maybe it should be, leaving the article as a stub for future development.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.123.223 (talk) 00:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Badly written and 99% unsourced=

message: It’s Classical Persian as mentioned in Steingass’ Classical Persian dictionary. The reconstructed Old Persian form is already mentioned in the etymology section as *fravarti. And thirdly this article originally listed the pronunciation as Classical but an editor inexplicably changed it (vandalized?) to Old Persian sometime ago.Foreverknowledge (talk) 17:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical or Old Persian 

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message: Is there any evidence for this or people are just going by things that look similar. 
If there is scholarly work on this please let me know, otherwise i'm happy to get rid of the speculation 2406:3400:313:B310:3DA5:5DD1:1DD8:636A (talk) 03:59, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you might be misreading the section, it's not saying it definitely comes from it, but the similar looking one pre-dates it and was adopted in usage. JesseRafe (talk) 18:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: the article says " It[farvahar] originates as a Mesopotamian Assyrian depiction of the wing deity Ashur. " 2406:3400:313:B310:D579:4B13:A34:7D0A (talk) 05:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. Except your imposition of the supposed antecedent. The winged figure and/or sun motif has a history that pre-dates it being a Faravahar, and its origin can only be pointed to its earliest manifestation. Its Zoroastrian usage is not claimed to be Ashur, but the symbol itself is being traced. JesseRafe (talk) 14:28, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farvahar from Ashur? 

message: Is the Faravahar the same thing as the Sogdian farr or halo? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same as the Sogdian ''farr''