Talk:Chin Na

message: I've put Praying Mantis back in. I've sparred with many of them, their Chin Na is awesome, and a huge part of their style, the praying mantis bug's arms seizing their victims the way they do. It is also a big part of the style I study, but it doesn't predominate, so I don't include T'ai Chi in the article, for example.Fire Star 19:47, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to agree with RussNelson. There should be a mention of Dr. Yang.
I'm not going to change it but the last line does look awkward and random.  It feels like an advertisement although I am sure you did not intend for it to be so.69.181.82.210 06:34, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I will change it. While Yang's books are relatively famous in the West, to say that he is highly regarded by the international martial art community compared to other practitioners isn't necessarily accurate. Qin na is a style of training that is found in most Chinese martial arts, I train it and teach it myself. If anything, there should only be a listing of Yang's book here, Yang himself should more accurately be mentioned at the White Crane Kung Fu complex of articles. Fire Star 13:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: Put bluntly this confuses things a lot and is all unsourced. Yes many MA techniques travelled between Japan & China, but mention of Aikido & the gentle way (i.e. Judo) that are Gendai budo (i.e. 19/20th century arts) seems odd. Samari learning from monks sound far a bit ropey to go unsourced soundign alot like the Bodhidharma legend , and term slike "widley considerd the mother of" are just trouble. Ignoring the national anagoism between Japan & China, it is not widely known about & most people don't know the the differance between kendo & capoeira and in MA circles the is largely "MY art is the real original". I would stongly suspect that japanese & chinese techniques have linked origins but it also dose not allow for later development of arts.
In short, this needs sourcing & re-wording to be neutral. --Nate1481 12:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Chinese invented the Gi now? NO. Stop. The Keikogi was created by Kano in the late 19th century early 20th centuary after kodokan judo was developed form the existant jujutsu, impling that the Japanese only use sumo till the Chinese civilised them is simply wrong, I'm reverting on mass as filletering out the plausable and the quetionable bits from the simple factual errors will be a nightmare I don't have time for. --Nate1481 11:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: *Qinna features both standing and ground-based grappling techniques. Nowhere in the linked reference mentioned that Qinna features ground-based grappling techniques.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.213.18.215 (talk) 19:59, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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message: Guys, no one "in martial arts" agrees.
However there seems to be a rampant misconception here that Chin Na is somehow only the term of a series of locks and related sub-techniques incorporated in other established artforms.
This is simply not true.  Chin Na stands as its own form.  I've had my son training in it for years in one of the few Chin Na schools in the country under a Grandmaster.  It comes from a very deep and old history, and as a result, much of it can be found to be later subsumed into other forms.  Chin Na in the form that my son studies under is using the original more than 300 techniques, and it is jaw-dropping to watch.Tgm1024 (talk) 15:04, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chin Na is absolutely both a generic term AND its own artform.