Talk:List of Lost characters/Archive 4

message: The first paragraph contains the sentence: 
"When the team members "became infected" she killed them all, in order to ensure that when they got rescued, the contamination would not spread."
The second paragraph contains the sentence:
"Before letting Sayid go, she tells him that her companions started to become sick, so she killed them one by one." 
The first sentence seems to be better placed than the second, but I'll let someone else make the decision on which stays.PierceG 00:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Danielle Rousseau Section: Repetitive Information

message: Could we post images of all the secondary characters?- JustPhil 16:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That might make the article a little unwieldy. Also, there have been a lot of problems with images being acceptable for Wikipedia use. You can't use copyrighted images without permission - they will be removed.  And personally, I think screen caps look bad. Danflave 21:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: The flashback characters box is only going to grow, and many somewhat important characters (Sayid's superiors, Shannon's best friend) have been left out. Though this will upset the "few articles" faction, I say we should create a new article for flashback characters with small sections for the important ones, like Christian Shepherd or Anthony Cooper.--Gonzalo84 22:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggested some time ago that, should separate articles be created for each episode, then those pages would be the appropriate place for flashback characters to be listed. Now that we apparently are stuck with separate page articles, I propose we move this information to the respective episodes. Any thoughts? Danflave 19:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flashback characters 

message: I plan on removing the mention here of most characters' ages, since that is pure speculation/judgment. (We have no idea: Locke could be 39, rather than 40s-50s.  He probably isn't, but who knows).  But thought I'd open it up for any counterarguments before I do so.  Please review WP:Verifiability before replying.  Thanks, -- PKtm 04:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, unless age is explicitly stated (such as Bernard's was in last week's episode), then it should not be included.  That is speculation and would be considered OR. Good catch, PKtm. In the case that age actually is revealed on the show, then that information should be included in the character summary - there does not need to be a separate "age" entry. Danflave 18:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ages of most characters is speculation 

message: I would like everyone to be aware that there is a straw poll at Talk: List of Lost episodes to decide the fate of the Lost articles.  Many of us work hard and regularly edit the Lost article.  We all realize how difficult it is to maintain quality, non-speculative, grammatically correct articles.  I hope everyone will realize how difficult it will be to maintain quality for the 100+ articles that will be created were we to make a new article for each episode.  Please consider this carefully. Danflave 16:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw poll on ''Lost'' articles 

message: It only makes sense. They had a flashback episode and I think they should be moved up.
I had edited it so they were on the main characters list but it was removed.
Would anyone be opposed to this?
:Yes, very much opposed. They are not main characters. They are always listed as guest stars. They are not listed in the main credits on the ABC site nor on the actual show. Please, could you also sign your comments? Danflave 18:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rose and Bernard should be on the Main Characters list 

message: I've put the following articles, created just yesterday for minor characters and without prior discussion, up on AfD.  Please see and discuss at
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Littleton (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desmond (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goodwin (Lost)
Oh, and one more, for an article that was recreated despite having had an AfD vote for deletion just a week or so ago.  This one I put up for speedy delete, so it's listed in CAT:CSD.  Here's the prior discussion.
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danielle Rousseau (Lost)
-- PKtm 03:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New character articles now listed on AfD

message: Here we go --
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Mars (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Mr. Friendly" (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethan Rom (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Gale (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cindy Chandler (Lost) 
Danflave 18:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not very active on AfD and admittedly not very well versed in those procedures, but couldn't we have done it all as one (such as what is going on with this one?  Just a thought. --Easter Monkey 08:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for Deletion

message: Wiki's MoS states: 
"[...] On the other hand, do not make too many links. An article may be considered overlinked if any of the following is true:
[...]
*a link is repeated in the same article (although there may be case for duplicating an important link that is distant from the previous occurrence) ..."
Given the amount of repeated links in this article, including numerous episode titles and (for example) eleven consecutive links for "the Others" in as many lines, does anyone else agree that these need to be pruned back to one per article reference? Chris 42 22:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlinking 

message: Someone placed a note in the article that this is not notable.  It is very notable in connection with the Lost Experience game as it is one the answer to one of the clues.  I've placed it in the article and removed the notes. agapetos_angel 08:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethan Rom anagram

message: Unless anyone has any major objections, I've decided to start writting bios on the "characters of Lost" article for some of the major flashback characters. So far, I've done Christian Shephard and Anthony Cooper. Those ones are obviously big ones, but there are others that may or may not deserve bios, so I think this space should be used to decide which flashback characters deserve bios and which ones should just stay on the chart. Obviously only major ones here; we don't need Hurley's lottery girl or Jack's nurse or anything like that. Also, if someone could bring the two I've written up to par with the other bios (pictures especially would be nice) that would be great, since I wrote them in a hurry. - Nihl 10:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flashback Character bios 

message: Its my feeling that the main hub (the thing at the bottom of each article pertaining to LOST) needs some work. It lists many secondary characters as main characters. Mainly Ana-Lucia, Libby, and Shannon seeing as all three of these ladies are now dead. And I am sure there are some secondary characters (i.e. Desmond, Danielle, etc) that are worthy of some more 'spot-light' as it were. 
Cormacalian 17:27, 16 May 2006
I disagree.  The rules to include only characters that were credited as cast regulars at some time in the series.  I think that is a good system, as there have only been two seasons.  Maybe when the recurring characters grow (like season 4) we should include them in the navigation box.  Not yet.
Discussion at Template_talk:LostNav.  --  Wikipedical 04:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to Revamp the Main Hub 

message: This page says (and said before I removed some stuff) that the DeGroots and Alvar Hanso appear in "What Kate Did". They are only referenced by name in that episode, and Hanso has only appeared in "Orientation". The DeGroots later appeared in "?".- JustPhil 12:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "What Kate Did" 

message: Should we try again?  Do I smell Island Census (Lost) or is the consensus still at merge?  --  Wikipedical 01:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The section should be deleted altogether.  If it breaks out into its own article it'll grow into one big piece of fancruft and will be marked for deletion.  Let's cut out the whole bureaucratic process, save time, and just get rid of it. Jtrost (T | C | #) 14:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Totally agree. -- PKtm 15:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

text: As I said above, just split it off and let it sink or swim on its own. At this point it would be difficult to delete without protest. Go for it, if you think someone won't come along to re-create it. —LeflymanTalk 20:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I concur. It probably will end up getting AFDed as Lostcruft, and deleted. Actually, I'm very suprised it is not on Lostpedia yet. -Whomp 02:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Article is split, vote on the AfD if you care to.  Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Island Census (Lost)  --  Wikipedical 21:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Census split 

message: when Jack, Sawyer and Kate are taken by the others that means we will never see them again but people are debating that they are not missing, which one is it missing or not -- User: LeafGreen Ranger May 25th 2006, 21:37 (UTC)
:How can anyone answer your question?  If we're uncertain on something, we cannot assume anything.  Until 5 months pass, we cannot determine anything.  Debating an issue like that is a waste of time.  --  Wikipedical 21:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack, Sawyer and Kate Missing? 

message: SpoilerFix has aggregated producer statements. Producers have said that Cynthia Watros (Libby) is gone as a regular cast member but will be a guest star next season as her story is told posthumously. Does that make her a cast member? Producers have also said that Michael Emerson ("Henry Gale") will become a regular cast member in Season 3. The Michael character is done on the island, so I have edited that to be Season 1-2. The Walt character was only marked as a guest star Season 2, so I edited that to be (Season 1)... Anything I am missing? -Nick Catalano contrib talk 21:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Make sure you read this before making your edits- WP:WWIN#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.  --  Wikipedical 14:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producer Statements 

message: Recently, Gonzalo84 deleted the "Also known as: Zeke" part from the article.  His reasoning is understandable; that "Zeke" is only a nickname given to him by Sawyer.  However, as someone who spends quite a lot of time on Lost forums (probably too much time), I can verify that a good majority of fans refer to him as "Zeke" even though it's only a nickname.  I won't add it again unless nobody has any objections, so does anyone agree/disagree? (oops, forgot to sign it) Brian Night 04:23, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that Gonzalo84's move was appropriate.  Despite what people call the character on internet forums, our articles aren't supposed to be influenced by them.  Using the show as our basis for the article, they have in fact called him 'Tom' in the finale, and the writers have used 'Mr. Friendly' in the scripts.  The place where it is appopriate to list 'Zeke' is in James "Sawyer" Ford#Nicknames.  --  Wikipedical 19:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zeke/Mr. Friendly/Tom