Talk:Museum

message: Hi, I wonder why "Aerospace (or Aviation)" museums don't have an entry for themselves. Their focus is quite specific and different from a museum that focus on "science" (which can be interpreted quite widely). Additionally, can anyone confirm if there is a "List of Aviation museums"? I couldn't find it!  Thanks & regards, DPdH (talk) 07:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "Aerospace/Aviation museums is embedded in "Science"? 

message: Reading through the headers, there was nothing for history museums, but then they show up under art with little or no transition from one concept to the other. I think it should either be a separate section, or the section should be re-title Art and History Museums. History Museums merit their own category in that their collections often range outside the normal definition of art; moreover, the entry includes first-person interpreted historic house museums as history museums, which really can't be considered art museums by anyone.  Best, Mragsdale (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi- I tried to clean-up this article as much as time allowed, but it is still a mess. It needs more citations and a lot of it seems like WP:OR to me. It's too bad, because this is an important article, please feel free to join in and straighten it up!! --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why are History Museums under Art museums? 

message: This section presents a stream of un-substantiated claims related to museums, describing what seems to be a list of gripes with the institution of a museum as a controversy that it is involved in using un-encyclopedic diction. --JHoltzman 02:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies Section Bias 

message: Under open-air museums, shouldn't it list living history museums because they are a type of open-air museums?
--Deannarcundiff (talk) 00:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Living History Museums

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message: Or would such an addition be almost instantaneously removed by people who love to use scare quotes (i.e. Creation "Museum")? 67.233.245.93 (talk) 17:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should I bother adding mention of the Creation Museum? 

message: Source #7 under "Purpose": "for the increase and diffusion of knowledge." is a dead link. The working link is: http://www.si.edu/About/Mission (visited 09/27/2015) --68.97.5.108 (talk) 01:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links

message: Hi everyone,
IMHO most of the photos in this article give the impression that a museum is a very large building. Musuems can be of all sizes.\  Have added photo of very small open-aired museum that I got from browsing the 2015 photo competitions.
I'm more than happy to discuss this.\Please post on my wiki page.ta
Johnscotaus (talk) 07:43, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  image added of a very small museum 

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message: I'm discussing this minor detail about BC/BCE in the article per WP:BRD.
It seems that going back several years (2014 at least), this article has had exactly one BC and one BCE, with no AD/CE eras. A couple days ago (3 Oct), User:Nationalmuseumofiran (currently blocked) added one more BCE, as part of a spam-like spree of adding that same image to several articles. I followed these up to correct for WP:ERA; that included this article earlier today (5 Oct). At that point, the article had two BC dates, and no other eras, establishing a consistent era style in this article for the first time. 
Soon afterwards, User:Zymurgy reverted this with the comment  (which doesn't seem to be true) putting the article back to a mix of BC and BCE, contrary to ERA, which states:  without seeking consensus to say why . 
So I'm reverting per ERA. Any are free to start a discussion on why BC might be specifically inappropriate for this article.  --A D Monroe III (talk) 00:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi I don't think it's crucial whether it's BC or BCE, I randomly went back to the page in June or July 2017 to see what it was then and at that point it was BCE, hence my comment and rv.  Not a scientific survey by any means.  Go with whatever you think is best. Zymurgy (talk) 07:54, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. Sorry to make so much about so little, but some get cranky about this sort thing. Thanks.  --A D Monroe III(talk)  16:37, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Great- if only all editing issues on WP were so easily resolved! Zymurgy (talk) 08:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:ERA]] 

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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Museums]] for deletion 

message: Hello, it seems that the "interactive map" (caption, first picture) does not work. Even with correcting the spelling error (? musuems), the link then goes to the website in general. How to fix this? Ziko (talk) 09:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interactice map 

message: I took American out of the heading because this page is about all museums not just America (I'm going to guess this section is somehow left over from a more focussed page maybe?). Anyway as the page stands a section only on American marginalised people was jarring. I inserted one international example, but to be honest I think this section could do with a rewrite from someone who can give it better international focus. DrThneed (talk) 03:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Coincidentally, I have just added a small section on the Decolonisation of museums, which is tangentially related to some of the content in this section. I mention it in passing - I am hoping that someone will tackle an article on this topic at some point, as it's pretty well covered in the literature and attracts quite a bit of media coverage from time to time. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marginalised American people section 

message: Not sure why only large western art/antiquities museums are listed at the top of the page. It gives a very biased view of world culture. Changing it up to represent other cultures and topics. Myotus (talk) 15:26, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sensible move, thank you for taking the time to make the change. Richard Nevell (talk) 17:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo bias on page 

message: The map used at the top of the page contains an external link that goes to TravelGeo a commercial map company not another Wikpedia page. The URL of the site has changed from "ShareMap.org" a site that just had advertising space to "travegeo.com" which now appears to sell services. I am unsure of Wikpedia's relationship with Travegeo/ShareMap. Having the link appears not to violate Wikipedia policy WP:EL. However, would it be more appropriate to have the link/graphic down under the External links section or at least identify it as an external link leading out of Wikipedia? Myotus (talk) 21:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of museums all over the world link 

message: Several issues beyond the lack of representation of a worldwide view of the subject as already flagged. It lacks relevancy to the article with no real context and appears only to serve to promote the museums listed with outdated external links. No reason for adding it was given back in March 8, 2013‎. Myotus (talk) 01:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: there was a reason--letting readers connect to major exhibitions, which is especially relevant in the age of COVID. A mpre complete global listing is better (and very difficult to compile), but let us not let better be the enemy of good material. Rjensen (talk) 02:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Rjensen COVID is not a relevant argument. This section was put up way before COVID (2013) and these exhibits were in person not online exhibits. Additionally, the pages that are linked, (non-Wikipedia) if they are functional at all, are only to listings of past exhibits, not actual online exhibits. If the reason is to "connect readers to major exhibitions", then these large major museums should use their advertising budget for doing that, not use Wikipedia for free publicity. Additionally, the limited scope of the section focuses only on large western ART museums (the exception in the list is oddly the Canadian Museum of Nature) the section is very narrow in it focus (as pointed out for several years with no action taken to correct). My advice is instead getting into a revert edit war defending a badly executed section, please take it on, rewrite it, rebuild it and resubmit it when it is comprehensive and representative of all museums and no longer functions as marketing for a few large art museums. Myotus (talk) 04:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: " resubmit it when it is comprehensive and representative of all museums" that's the formula for mediocrity . Wait for someone else to achieve perfection and meanwhile erase/delete/stop until that is reached. the point about COVID is that museums depend much more on Wikipedia given all the restrictions worldwide. Rjensen (talk) 06:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exhibition histories section removed 

message: Both have relatively similar missions and often can be found referenced together in literature. In many addition museums listed under the art museum section were not art museums but rather were  national/encyclopedic museums which contained art collections in addition to natural history, historical, and antiquity collections. Myotus (talk) 15:54, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Museum and Design Museum sections combined 

message: There were 26 museum type descriptions listed on the page.There are 149 categories listing museums by type. It would be ridiculous to describe each one on the museum page. One of the ideas of an encyclopedic article is brevity. Even listing out 26 museum types is too much. Several do not even have their own page and some have longer descriptions on the museum page than on their own page.
I have pulled the descriptions of museum types from the article, and instead create a list of the "types" of museums with each linking to its own page. This will allow the users decide on their own if they want to learn more about the type and then click on the link to go to the page. Please discuss here about the Museum type descriptions if you feel one way or the other.
The following museum types were added:
Agricultural, Architectural, Archaeological, Art, Design, Biographical, Children's, Community, Encyclopedic, Folk, Historic houses, Historic sites, Living history, Local, Maritime, Medical, Memorial, Natural history, Open-air , Science
The following were removed due to no pages or just lists. 
Marginalized people, Transport museum, Specialized museum, Virtual museum, Military and war, Ethnological and ethnographic, Pop-up, Mobile Myotus (talk) 03:34, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing museum type descriptions

message: Replaced war museum with local history museum in lead. No article in Wikipedia for War museum (or military museum) it was only linked back to Museum article. Local history museums are some of the most common museums. 
Removed duplicate listing of Virtual museum. Myotus (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes museum types 

message: The second sentence uses the term "exhibit" wrongly: "Many public museums make these items available for public viewing through exhibits that may be permanent or temporary." It refers to exhibitions, i.e. spaces where objects (exhibits) are displayed (exhibited). The exhibit is an object or a group of objects displayed as a unity inside an exhibition. An exhibition is a curated collection of objects put on display, with interpretation. The word "exhibitions" should be used instead of "exhibits". Thanks! Flfeneru (talk) 10:25, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In American English an "exhibit" can describe the whole "exhibition" or show, as it must be called in British English.  I think it is not actually wrong in American English to call a show an exhibition, whereas in British English it is downright wrong to call a show an "exhibit". If I'm right, and "exhibition" for a show is ok in both varieties, then we should use that per MOS:COMMONALITY. Johnbod (talk) 17:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exhibition, not exhibit