Talk:Happy Family Planning

message: Alright, seems a bit threadbare here, but I'd like to offer an explanation for why the three characters central to this episode sought to kill themselves. It was originally suggested by a friend of mine right after the end of the episode, and makes a fair amount of sense. Simply, they all had AIDS. I can offer a few supports to this point, one of which being the prominant inclusion of that condom related ad/dispenser (can't remember which at the moment). In addition, there is the information about Makoto given during the chat sessions during the episode, wherein he indicated his desire to go out with a bang, hence his Lil' Slugger Copycat attacks and subsequent feeding of the delusional story to the police when captured. This is telling because people generally do such things, attempting to make a large scene with their suicide, when they at least feel that their death has become inevitable due to forces outside of their control; for example, finding out they had unknowingly contracted AIDS from any number of sources. The third point of support lies in the make-up of the group: Komome is a young child, easily representative of those who contract AIDS due to one or more of their parents having had it, and Zebra is revealed to be a homosexual (I'm not trying to stereotype here, guys, it is to my knowledge that the gay community is hit at least as hard if not more so than the straight by AIDS). Admittedly, I am unaware of elderly individuals making up a significant portion of those afflicted, but I'm also not exactly a scholar on the subject, so I don't know if I'm missing something. (Edit: After conversing with a friend of mine once he woke up, I confirmed that I had indeed forgotten that Fuyubachi did wonder why Komome wanted to kill herself, so that point is out. Still, this doesn't completely disprove the theory). I apologize for the slightly random and fairly rambling nature of my offering, but hope I can find some serious discussion on the subject, and am also more than open to corrections if I have remembered facts incorrectly and the like.
-Elpis 18 November 2005 (Yes, despite all that, I'm too lazy to create an account yet, sue me)
:Lol. They all had AIDS. I thought you were joking but you put in some really good insight. Fuyubachi however could have contracted HIV/AIDS anywhere (blood transfusion, needles, other medical possibilities) and might be suffering with those effects (remember the pills.) Actually the more I think about this the more it seems logical. At the end the appearance of the Happy Family Planning title appeared on condoms. And not just any condoms but "extra thin" condoms. When I saw this episode I thought to myself "Who would want those? They'll break!" Now it makes a lot of sense. Our AIDS theory can be proven with this as these "extra thin" condoms fail you could suffer from pregnancy or STDs.
--Debt Jr.
:This theory is entirely illogical. There is no evidence supporting it. People die from many other things besides AIDS, and you could have easily switched the "AIDS" in your theory to "leukemia" or "bird flu." If you wanted to be more realistic, you could have claimed they all had a disease that causes palpitations because of the elderly character's beta blocker meds, which is still way out in left field. Any disease may lead someone to question the value of life and consider suicide. BTW, extra-thin condoms are proven to be just as reliable, sometimes more so, than regular condoms. It's a common misconception that because they're thinner, they're more liable to break, but that isn't true and most extra-thin condoms, at least Japanese ones, use a special synthetic material to make them thinner and stronger. The thinnest condoms in the world are manufactured by Crown in Japan, and they're commonly used in porn -- so that should tell you how reliable they are. - Cyborg Ninja 00:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AIDS theory

message: I'd just thought I'd say, unless all that stuff in the theories section can be attributed to some reliable source, it's all original research. I'm surprised nobody's brought that up on this discussion page yet. --169.233.5.115 04:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research