Talk:2006 Gdansk school suicide incident

message: I removed nonsensical proposal for deletion for Not notable. Their death was very referenced in media in Poland and all east Europe, for example in czech media is referenced as one from the first and most known victims of cyber and sexual bullying in East Europe, two czech common reportage about bullying in Czech republic and Europe cited their case as clasical and common known), influence of their case on polish education system and schools politik is out of question. --Cinik 07:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, that any deletion is not logical. Anna Halman is known in Poland (and it's neighbouring countries of course), maybe not in USA or Great Britain. So the US and other editors may think that we are trying to add there something nonencyclopedic. --Aktron (t|c) 10:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Samozřejmě že jakékoliv smazání je nelogický nesmysl. Anna Halman je známá v Polsku (a také v jeho sousedních zemích), možná ale ne v USA nebo Británii. Takže editoři odtamtud i z jiných zemí to samozřejmě snadno můžou považovat za vkládání neencykloepdických článků, když jí neznají. --Aktron (t|c) 10:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for deletion 

message: When a person is involved in a notable incident but the person is not notable themselves then the article title should reflect the event rather than be a bio. For example Madeleine McCann was moved recently to Disappearance of Madeleine McCann recently for this reason. I am therefore proposing that this page is moved to Assault on Anna Halman though Suicide of Anna Halman would also be an acceptable title. TerriersFan 16:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The case of Anna Halman, Suicide of Anna Halman, Assault on Anna Halman... See the discussion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Halman. Everything OK, but here and now it is a question of vandalizing and very hard vulgarity, where some persons tries to give here the category of prostitute or porno stars (see there the second change) and so on. By the way, on other language projectcts as well. -jkb- 16:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dealing with vandalism is important but a separate issue. Titles on other projects are for those projects. In many articles titles differ between projects, including Disappearance of Madeleine McCann. TerriersFan 16:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks a lot. And what do you want to say? Nobody is here against a renaming, neither me nor somebody else, neither here or on the discussion held upon Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Halman. So - ??? -jkb- 16:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with TerriersFan, these issues are separate.  However, I'm finding it difficult to think of an elegant renaming.  As for the vandalism, well we can keep that down relatively easily by keeping an eye on the article (e.g. put it on your Watchlist).  I saw the speedy tag on it today during a WP:CSD backlog blitz and have been following it ever since.  The Rambling Man 16:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think that we need to proceed with a renaming both for the reasons I have given above and since a pivotal two of the Keep voters also recommended this. If an entirely neutral title is looked for then Gdansk high school assault is am option. TerriersFan 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well I will not mind very much how the title is; but the last suggestion (Gdansk high school assault) has the small disadvantage that it doesn't contain the name of the girl - which is quite known in some countries, indeed; normally, the accident can be connected more with her name than with the name of the city. -jkb- 10:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: This page claims that the boys are guilty. This constitutes such a huge breach of presumption of innocence, that's why I have inserted the tag. —Zacheus Talk • Contributions • Edit counter 07:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't state that any specific individuals are guilty of any offence. it recounts what the sources say happened, which is how we edit on here. Rather than putting an inappropriate tag on the article, if you consider it requires balance then source an alternative viewpoint. However, I have modified the wording in line with the BBC source. I have removed the tag. TerriersFan 16:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV – Presumption of innocence 

message: I looked at the Czech-language publication whose link was recently removed by an anonymous contributor. We already have an article on this publication at  Britské listy, where it is referred to as an 'Internet daily.'  I would welcome any comments on whether this publication can be considered a reliable source. It does have the air of being self-published, which WP:RS frowns on. EdJohnston 02:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anon removed citation to [[Britské listy]] 

message: Suicides (or attempts) of adolescents are quite common. —Zacheus Talk • Contributions • Edit counter 14:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suicides of adolescents 

message: Could the entire of the text in this redirect please be replaced with the following text for proper capitalization and Rcat tagging (including using an Rcat tag rather than an actual category tag)?:
#REDIRECT School violence#Poland  
...Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 05:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done but I put them on separate lines, because the technical restriction that required them to be all on the first line was lifted some years ago. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 19 September 2014 

message: The section named "Poland" on the redirect's target is no longer there. I consider the redirect be re-targeted to Education in Poland#Violence. School violence in Poland also redirects to the same target section. --2601:646:9280:BA70:C498:4836:F50C:D0AF (talk) 03:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done also unprotected — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 16 October 2017