Talk:Frederik IX

message: Which is it?  The article uses both Frederick and Frederik. Enosson 17:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Frederik. Everyone in Denmark knows that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.238.28.62 (talk) 12:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Same here - take a look at the home page of The Danish Royal Court. I am surprised that we (Wikipedia) can't get something so basic right.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.215.212.8 (talk) 10:02, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

text: ...by the way - Wikipedia is inconsistent in the naming, since King Frederik IX' grandchild, Frederik X is named without the c here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.215.212.8 (talk) 10:08, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the discussion just below this one.  It would appear that English-language sources tend to refer to the old king as Frederick, whereas the crown prince is more commonly referred to as Frederik.  I believe there is a trend in contemporary news coverage to favor the "native" spelling of names (at least if the language in question uses some variant of the Latin alphabet).  This may also explain why the article about the current queen is named Margrethe II, whereas her medieval namesake is called Margaret I. Oh, and your proclamation of Frederik X is a tad premature. Favonian (talk) 12:13, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

text: I oppose. Frederick is the English form of the name and this is English Wikipedia. Charles 01:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I oppose.  He is commonly known in English works as Frederick. Noel S McFerran 03:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Charles recently made some rather disruptive edits to the article. One thing is changing Frederik to Frederick (in effect reverting a change that is under discussion), another is changing Frederik to Fredrick. Please remember to discuss before reverting, and can we please at least settle on just one spelling variant to use in the article? I changed the article from using three different types to using one, but now we are back at three. Sakkura 11:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me? Disruptive how? Are you trying to discredit me? You cannot tell me to discuss before reverting when YOU did not discuss at all! I changed all of the forms to Frederick, the form used in the title and the form, as Mr McFerran states, most commonly used in English works. I misspelled Frederick wrong once. Do you think I meant to? Charles 11:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't find it at least a little disruptive to change the article from using one spelling form to using three (or two) different ones? Well excuse me, but I do, especially when it is a revert (if you had arrived here tidying up the article from multiple spellings to one, it would be another matter). The article is currently still using Frederik multiple times. When I first looked at the discussion page, all that was here was a remark that his name was Frederik; so I found changing from multiple spellings to one (Frederik) quite uncontroversial. Sakkura 11:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a difference between disruptive and a mistake. I am awfully sorry that I didn't live up to your rigid expectations. The article uses one form of his name. Charles 11:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, my opinion is that the quality of an article is lowered if it keeps switching between different spellings. That's why I labelled your initial edits as disruptive. I am happy that you have since made the article more consistent. I checked elsewhere (Encyclopædia Britannica etc.), and it appears Frederick is indeed the preferred form in English. Sakkura 12:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No, Mr McFerran is right... He is commonly known in English works as Frederick'. Charles 15:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Each individual is a person in his own right.  One person called Frederik in Danish, may be called Frederick in English; another person may be called Frederik in both languages.  Wikipedia summarizes published scholarship; it does not try to create consensus where there is none. Noel S McFerran 16:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a very good point, and I hadn't thought of it that way. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • &site=  count) 16:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason he is at times known as "Frederick" in english is because of a spelling error made by reporters, that worked under the assumption the German spelling is the only spelling, and so it proliferated through time, due to widespread ignorance. Spelling his name Frederick is just as wrong as spelling the name "Peter" as "Beder". People are given one or more names, and it is that persons sole perogative to choose the spelling of said name(s), if they have not made any alteration to the name they were given, all other spellings of it are misspellings, the only possible allowances are transliterations, i.e. from cyrillic to latin. These spelling errors should be corrected and the article(s) moved to their proper names. -- Vrenak (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frederick or Frederik 

message: I suggest moving this page to Frederik IX of Denmark, since Frederik is the ubiquitous spelling variant used. Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark uses the same spelling. Sakkura 00:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose. Frederick is the English form of the name and this is English Wikipedia. Charles 01:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I oppose.  He is commonly known in English works as Frederick. Noel S McFerran 03:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Charles recently made some rather disruptive edits to the article. One thing is changing Frederik to Frederick (in effect reverting a change that is under discussion), another is changing Frederik to Fredrick. Please remember to discuss before reverting, and can we please at least settle on just one spelling variant to use in the article? I changed the article from using three different types to using one, but now we are back at three. Sakkura 11:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me? Disruptive how? Are you trying to discredit me? You cannot tell me to discuss before reverting when YOU did not discuss at all! I changed all of the forms to Frederick, the form used in the title and the form, as Mr McFerran states, most commonly used in English works. I misspelled Frederick wrong once. Do you think I meant to? Charles 11:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't find it at least a little disruptive to change the article from using one spelling form to using three (or two) different ones? Well excuse me, but I do, especially when it is a revert (if you had arrived here tidying up the article from multiple spellings to one, it would be another matter). The article is currently still using Frederik multiple times. When I first looked at the discussion page, all that was here was a remark that his name was Frederik; so I found changing from multiple spellings to one (Frederik) quite uncontroversial. Sakkura 11:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a difference between disruptive and a mistake. I am awfully sorry that I didn't live up to your rigid expectations. The article uses one form of his name. Charles 11:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, my opinion is that the quality of an article is lowered if it keeps switching between different spellings. That's why I labelled your initial edits as disruptive. I am happy that you have since made the article more consistent. I checked elsewhere (Encyclopædia Britannica etc.), and it appears Frederick is indeed the preferred form in English. Sakkura 12:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No, Mr McFerran is right... He is commonly known in English works as Frederick'. Charles 15:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Each individual is a person in his own right.  One person called Frederik in Danish, may be called Frederick in English; another person may be called Frederik in both languages.  Wikipedia summarizes published scholarship; it does not try to create consensus where there is none. Noel S McFerran 16:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a very good point, and I hadn't thought of it that way. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • &site=  count) 16:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason he is at times known as "Frederick" in english is because of a spelling error made by reporters, that worked under the assumption the German spelling is the only spelling, and so it proliferated through time, due to widespread ignorance. Spelling his name Frederick is just as wrong as spelling the name "Peter" as "Beder". People are given one or more names, and it is that persons sole perogative to choose the spelling of said name(s), if they have not made any alteration to the name they were given, all other spellings of it are misspellings, the only possible allowances are transliterations, i.e. from cyrillic to latin. These spelling errors should be corrected and the article(s) moved to their proper names. -- Vrenak (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: Shows Crown Prince Frederick and party touring Hoover Dam in 1939 and is PD-US:  .  I imagine that's him, over on the right.  Also see  same licence.  Good luck!--Wehwalt (talk) 16:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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message: WilsonJohn S. Wilson (1959), Scouting Round the World. First edition, Blandford Press. p. 29, 135 links him to Boy Scouting, was there a connection?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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