Talk:Mark Tobey

message: "Tobey's friend Elizabeth Bayley Willis showed his painting Bars and Flails [10] to Jackson Pollock in 1944. Pollock studied the painting closely and then painted Blue Poles, a painting that made history when, in 1973, the Australian government bought it for $2 million." Hmmm..... 'Blue Poles' wasn't painted until 1952. Surely Tobey influenced Pollock, but the direct influence - almost ripoff - implied here seems kind of sketchy... needs a ref, at the very least! In fact the whole section seems a bit too Pollocky. If no-one objects I might come back at some point, pare down the Jackson, and play up all the Northwest Schoolies Tobey was such a wonderful influence on. Tomseattle (talk) 01:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Influence

message: I intend to edit the external link section by removing duplicate links, removing the Britannica stub link, and adding links to Tobey’s artworks in the Seattle Public Library and the Northwest Museum of Art and Culture’ digital collections.  If no one objects, I will add these next week, the week of October 21, 2013. SternaAlbifrons (talk) 21:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link Edit 

message: It is written that some work by Mark Tobey sometimes resembles  Abstract Expressionism, however that does not qualify Tobey to be labeled an Abstract Expressionist painter.  Also since “his motives for his compositions differ philosophically from most Abstract Expressionist painters", why would anyone want to list his Movement as Abstract Expressionism? I am unable to find one reliable reference as to his being an Abstract Expressionist painter.   (Modernist recently added Galerie Jeanne Bucher, but that is not and does not does not contain a reliable reference.)  Although Tobey “had a strong influence on others,” there are no references as to his being a major artist whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism.  Unless someone can produce at least one reliable reference as to Toby being an Abstract Expressionist painter, it has to be deleted. But leaving that "sometimes his work resembles Abstract Expressionism" is acceptable, as the work of many artists resembles Abstract Expressionism (but they were not part of the movement).  
Sirswindon (talk) 23:19, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Tobey was an important part of the Abstract expressionist movement, ...Modernist (talk) 23:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Modernist As you seem to claim to be the only expert on the subject, please provide a reliable reference as to his importance in the movement. His article clearly says “his motives for his compositions differ philosophically from most Abstract Expressionist painters" --- why are you unable to consider he does not meet the criteria of "Major" which is in the AE Article?  Adding the Galerie Jeanne Bucher was your weak attempt to provide a reliable reference, but it did not hold water. Then in ART CYCLOPEDIA there is nothing there to substantiate he was an "important part of the AE movement." Please, where is an article written by a scholar in plain English that meets the criteria for being a "Major" which is in the WIKIPEDIA Article?  You seem to be trying to make up your own rules, and that is not being a scholar; it is only being a dictator. Please be ready to accept that sometimes you are fallible. Sirswindon (talk) 13:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

text: This discussion is over, you're a game player - no you're not gonna find the word MAJOR on nearly everyone you are questioning because that's essentially irrelevant. Herscovic establishes that Tobey was an Abstract expressionist, that's what we are talking about. They were American abstract expressionists. So move on - the horse that you are beating is dead!!. As to your apparent problem with this: "being a major artist whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism." try reading this WP:UCS. Do you know how to read? The article clearly states Tobey was born in the USA; and You said - Then in ART CYCLOPEDIA it is written "American AE Painter" but he was not American gotta wonder - did you read the link to the Metropolitan Museum of Art? If you can read - then also read the exhibition history...and uh maybe uh realize that Tobey like Jackson Pollock pioneered paintings with all over composition...Modernist (talk) 15:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not an Abstract Expressionist painter. 

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