Talk:Geoffrey Tozer

message: See Talk:Nikolai Medtner for a discussion about whether any one pianist has ever recorded all of Medtner's piano works.  Tozer and Hamish Milne might have come close, but each has some minor gaps.  JackofOz 00:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medtner complete piano works 

message: I wish to refer to this passage in the article:
:In 1962, at the age of eight, Tozer performed J. S. Bach’s Concerto No. 5 in F Minor with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra in a concert that was televised nationally by the ABC. In 1964, in Melbourne’s Nicholas Hall, he made his concert debut with the Astra Orchestra under George Logie-Smith.
Was not the 1962 performance Tozer's concert debut?  If so, then why is his 1964 performance described as his concert debut?
Perhaps the 1962 performance was a limited or private performance (well, televised nationally, but perhaps a private audience physically present); if so, this would then make the 1964 performance his public debut in a live capacity, as against being televised.
But, one way or another, this vagueness needs clearing up.  I don't know the facts about these performances to do it myself; but perhaps someone who knows might care to do so.  Thanks.  M.J.E. (talk) 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguity over Tozer's debut needs clearing up 

message: I am referring to this statement in the article, taken from Paul Keating's eulogy:
:Two of these were world premiere recordings and the other had had only one earlier recording, in the 1940s.
With due respect to Mr. Keating, whose entire eulogy I read with interest, and who clearly knows a lot about classical music, I do believe this statement is incorrect and should be changed.
The statement is referring to Medtner's three piano concertos, all of which Geoffrey Tozer recorded.  His recording of the 2nd concerto is the only one that may be a premiere recording.  Both the other concertos were recorded well before Tozer's recordings: No. 1 with soloist Igor Zhukov, and No. 3 with soloist Michael Ponti.  (Sorry, I don't recall the orchestras or conductors of those performances.)  Neither of these is the recording alluded to from the 1940s, which I haven't heard.  I believe both are from either the 1960s or 1970s.
I know this, because I heard both those recordings broadcast on the A.B.C. a few times in the 1970s.  I will change this statement in the article if I can find a definite reference somewhere to these recordings.  I realize the statement is simply reporting accurately what Mr. Keating said; but Mr. Keating is actually incorrect on this point. M.J.E. (talk) 13:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that surprised me too, I must say.  And now that you mention it, I've dragged out a recording of No. 3 from the almost-never-looked-at section of my LP collection, by Michael Ponti and the Orchestra of Radio Luxembourg conducted by Pierre Cao, made in December 1973.  There's no mention on the sleeve notes of it being a premiere recording, but whether it was or not, it certainly predated Tozer's recording.  And here’s a recording of No. 1 from, I think, 1994, by Dmitri Alekseyev and the BBC Symphony Orchestra under Alexander Lazarev.  Further, here’s a YouTube of Medtner himself playing the first movement of No. 2 in 1947 under Issay Dobrowen.  Maybe he never recorded the whole concerto.  Feel free to change the article.  --  JackofOz (talk) 13:39, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premiere recording details (Medtner) are incorrect. 

message: I've now read the Weekend Australian piece (Stuart Rintoul, "Diminuendo: The Life and Death of Geoffrey Tozer"), and I think we need to include some of the things he writes about.  I don't normally read it, but the Oz is a reliable source, and we need to consider balance, and avoid drifting into hagiography.  It may be "lurid" as Magnus Muir states, and some of it may well be exaggerated, but it's on the record now.  If there's anything to counter what he says, that would be welcome too.  
Firstly, I'd heard suggestions Tozer was gay, but Rintoul is vague about it.  He does talk about two specific relationships with men, but he also says Tozer was "a man who loved both women and men".  I honestly don't know how to interpret this.  Is he saying Tozer was bisexual?  Or was he just saying he was just as comfortable around women as he was with men, but chose to have sexual relationships only with men?
Then there was his drinking, which was apparently an enormous problem.  For example, he arrived drunk for a concert at Federation Square in 2005.  And "he more than once had lost his sight from alcohol abuse" (!), which is something rather more serious than just being "blind drunk".  
Trevor Green and John Harding also rebutted some of what Keating had to say in his eulogy.  Harding was so "incensed" by it that he contacted Keating to complain.  Green was "appalled" by Keating's comments.  
Then there was his unreliablility and improvisational tendencies (which, if true, could well explain why he was ignored by the Australian musical establishment in his latter years in favour of more conventional players), and his almost disastrous final concert with David Pereira in Bendigo.
There's too much to just ignore.  The question is, where to draw the line.  --  JackofOz (talk) 08:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexuality, drinking, etc

message: If Tozer was born in 1954, then this: "Tozer also championed another Melbourne prodigy, pianist Noel Mewton-Wood, who died in 1953" is impossible. Someone who knows might like to correct it. PiCo (talk) 05:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read it in context, it will make sense.  He championed the music of composers such as Respighi, Rawsthorne, McEwen, Korngold, Gerhard, Grainger, Ireland, Tcherepnin and Schnabel. He also championed Noel Mewton-Wood.  That is, he advocated performances and recordings of the music of these dead composers, and advocated interest in the life and work and recordings of this dead performer.  We make it very obvious he could not possibly have promoted Mewton-Wood as an active concert pianist. --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  07:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see.PiCo (talk) 09:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not possible 

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