Talk:Eucharistic theology

message: To all those interested, in this group.  This article, while seeming well, should probably merged with transubstantiation.  Please all tell me what you think.
This article, if it is to stand as an independent article, needs a lot of work. 
I don't think it ought to be merged with "Transubstantiation," because that is one of several doctrines or theories, concerning eucharistic theology. Were it not that the transubstantiation article is much fuller and more complete than this one, I would suggest a reverse merger.
It certainly ought to be placed in with the series on Communion, and I wonder whether, if a merger is appropriate, the proper merger is with "Eucharist," which is a very full and complete article, needing "touch-ups," not major revision.--Deaconse 12:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would be concerned about the length of the resulting article in merging it with a main article on the subject. If it is properly linked to the main article(s), then there is not need to merge them. IMHO--Drboisclair (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose: Transubstantiation is one philosophical interpretation of the little itty-bitty part of the eucharist where the priests makes some handwavering, lifts and breaks the bread (repeat for blood), what happens then? Rome-Catholics claim it turns into jesusblood and jesusmeat, while retaining all objective qualities of wine and bread. The other Christians all have their own counterparting logical somersault stories that are constructed to be incompatible to the Rome-Catholic one. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 20:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

text: This article seems to be a series of useful and related stubs each of which provides an overview of a particular area within the main title.  I think there is a legitimate place for this type of article in that it provides basic information within a convenient space and indicates where fuller details can be found.  I'd keep it, even tho' some sections might need a bit of work--Jpacobb (talk) 03:43, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging with Transubstantiation

message: Symbolism-forbidding mysticists apart, has there been any enhanced analysis on what the bread and wine symbolizes? The bible says that the wine symbolises the new covenant and that it is blood shedded for the forgiveness of the sins of many, but why is blood connected to a new covenant? (Don't answer me, enhance the article, if it is not elsewhere in Wikipedia!) The bible is unclear exactly on what the body symbolises (not "meat" in bible), except something about Jesus sacrificing his body. It seems Christians (other than me) battles like idiots about some underlying non-Christian philosophical interpretation, while not caring very much about the symbolic content and logic of the rite. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 20:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Symbolism

message: The article is headed "Eucharistic Theology", but it almost the only theological subject mentioned with Eucharistic Presence  What about Eucharistic Sacrifice?
Are the descriptions of rites really part of this article? Some look good to me but feel out of place here--Jpacobb (talk) 00:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eucharistic Sacrifice? 

message: I think the next step for this article is to merge with Real presence. Eucharistic theology probably has more in it about real presence than real presence, creating a REDUNDANTFORK. If these two articles were merged, even without cutting redundant material, we would have 46 kb of readable prose size, which is not too big. This article is not a SUMMARY, because the vast majority of it is on real presence, and the real presence material could be incorporated without making the article too big. --JFHutson (talk) 20:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Jpacobb said, immediately above, that there should be a detailed article on "Eucharistic presence", which is precisely what the article on the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist is about.  Accordingly, it would be enough to have in the present article a summary of that aspect.  Esoglou (talk) 09:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Another merge discussion, this time Real presence

message: I appreciate the laudable boldness of Noblethrasher, but I think the diagram added needs radical revision before it can be accepted as a reliably sourced contribution. The "real presence" view is by no means limited to "many Anglicans and Methodists".  It is the view principally of  Catholics and Orthodox.  If Calvinists etc. consider a spiritual presence to be real, it includes even them, but that is not what Catholics and Orthodox mean by "real presence" in this context.  "Literally become" is a less precise description than "objectively become" or "actually become" for the belief of Catholics and Orthodox.  These hold that the bread and wine "become" the body and blood of Christ; others may go no more than to say that they "are" the body and blood of Christ.  Esoglou (talk) 20:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spectrum diagram 

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message: Explanation: when adding citations in this section, I noticed that Cornelius Stam stated his belief in observing the Lord's supper. Therefore, I removed his name as an example of the proponents of the suspension or adeipnonism viewpoint. Rlvaughn (talk) 01:32, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Suspension

message: The overview section is worded oddly, stating various views as fact, and only then stating who holds these views. If there is no objection, I would like to reverse this ordering and phrase these views in typical fashion, eg. Quakers believe that... Sondra.kinsey (talk) 18:29, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overview section wording 

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