Talk:Podcast/Archive 3

message: Hi, I wanted to ask about an external link before posting it in the article. Okay To Play contains comparison charts for podcasters to compare the various hosting services, advertising companies, podsafe music resources, audio hardware, and web tools available to podcasters. I know you guys worry about irrelevant and spammy links, so I wanted to run it by you first. Would it be okay to add? Abv 12:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would this be a good external link? 

message: Editing this now - I must make a point though regarding streaming and podcasting. They can be compared on two levels. Firstly, streaming can be of a live event, significantly it can be of a live event. Podcasting can't be streamed live. Streaming technology can support recorded shows too of course. However, 'podcasting' may be a streaming url, nothing dictates that a podcast has to be an offline transfer.
Offline transfers allow you to take content on the road currently, but there is no reason not to class syndicated media as 'podcasting' if it is streaming. There are more points, but please discuss. --Author
You could expand the definition of Podcasting to refer to Streaming, but that would render it meaningless. This sounds a bit POV to me; the consensus definition of Podcasting is automated media downloads for offline (in the sense of not requiring a live net connection) playback. Kevin Marks 19:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mechanics section is inaccurate 

message: Just a heads up that a spammer has twice added a link to their podbaby.net website from here.  I will remove this site whenever I see it here; it is not a list of podcasts and looks to be one of those sites where you have to pay for them to spam your podcast to search engines.  Samboy 18:51, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  podbaby.net spammer 

message: Linked at top of page. - brenneman(t)(c) 07:30, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pseudo-archived (a.k.a. deleted) 

message: I think the comparison of streaming media to podcasting is off the mark. While streaming is used for live events, it is also used for Video-On-Demand. Podcasts are saved to one's computer or player, streamed files are not.  (Of course I create VOD files that are made available for download via web pages.)  The main difference is the delivery method. Clients need to pull a stream off the web rather than waiting for the RSS push. File formats are also different as most streams are delivered as WinMedia, Real or QuickTime. Mpeg formats (mpeg4 in particular) are becoming more popular for video streams, but the big three still rule. BethFell 18:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Streaming comparison 

message: I'm proposing a rewrite of the history section, as detailed in this weblog post. I would appreciate feedback before doing so, in order to hopefully head off another edit war. Note that I have no conflict of interest in regards to podcasting. - Shelleyp 17:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the change. I also suggest that the audioblogging people setup a separate topic page for this. Audioblogging is not synonymous with podcasting.Shelleyp 14:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I wikified most of that section and moved the majority of the links down to the notes. --TNLNYC 16:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Section Rewrite 

message: The history section, even after the rewrite, is getting complicated. Should we have a subsection on it covering the technical development (ie. development of the underlying format), then the development of clients. 
Also, should we consider having the precursor part move up before initial development and then have the initial development section called early development? --TNLNYC 16:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with both your suggestions. I think a separate section listing out tool development, as both history and tool chest, would be good and would help people who just want to know what tech is available to use, when was it created, and who created it. And it makes sense to move the precursor up, though part of me thinks we could actually delete that section.Shelleyp 15:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question: History 

message: The creation of *-casting words to describe podcasting-like distribution of every type of digital file is getting ridiculous. (It's like the way "-gate" gets added to any verb and noun to describe any scandal in Washington, D.C.) I suspect most are used by virtually nobody except the person who thought them up, and who is probably trying to grab the domain name. I urge editors who are more attuned to the field than I be be bold and remove any terminology that is too peripheral. - DavidWBrooks 14:38, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  'casting' terminology 

message: This was in the notes section, and was probably for something in the technical initial development section.  The reference to it has gone though, so I've moved it to here incase anybody can spot a section of text that's supposed to refer to it:
#  Curry, Adam, 27 October 2000. The Bandwidth Issue
Joe D (t) 02:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost reference 

message: :The University of Cambridge podcasts Anatomy lectures. Anatomy Podcasts
The podcast is produced by a lecturer at Cambridge, but the website makes no indication that this is an officially endorsed University of Cambridge product. This link also smacks of spamming. --Kwekubo 01:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: link to podcast 

message: The following link adds value to the question "what is a podcast".  Wikicrusader has removed it.  What is wrong with this link? What is a podcast?
It looks like a commercial website to me. Wikicrusader 22:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please expound?  There is nothing for sale on that page. Have you looked at the quality of the content freely offered there? --69.86.70.246 22:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, go ahead and re-add the link Wikicrusader 22:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: We have external links to at least five tutorials, all very similar to this. Tutorials were useful a year or even six months ago, but there are hundreds of them on the Web now. Nobody needs help finding them, and if we linked to every one that wanted wikipedia traffic, we'd be swamped ... which this page almost is! I'd suggest removing them all.- DavidWBrooks 22:45, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is a tutorial "site", but it is a PAGE with an excellent definition of a podcast that I'm linking to.  However, I do think this is one of the most complete and non-tech friendly tutorials available. Maybe we need to decide on some criteria. --69.86.70.246 22:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing against that page/site - it's just that this article has a real problem with too many external links. (Almost as much as the problem it has putting together a history that doesn't offend somebody!)- DavidWBrooks 23:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. --69.86.70.246 00:13, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this link being removed from the external links?