Talk:Lucius Junius Brutus

message: It says in this article that Brutus translates to Dullard which links to Mental Retardation. Does this mean Marcus Junius Brutus, Caesar's assasin basically means Marcus Junius the Retarded?
:By a great stretch, yes. The cognomen was often passed down through the generations and lost its meaning as a word, in the same way that someone can be named "Smith" these days without being assumed to work in front of a forge. Stan 13:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: feigned slowittedness. A Colombo moment.Godspeed John Glenn! Will 11:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Anyway, what the hell does the quote mean. This is the best my translator could do.
*All at first eager new freedom populace , that not postmodum to overcome to anticipate either donis to be ruled to be able jurejurando adegit neminem In Rome pace to reign
Godspeed John Glenn! Will 21:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does quote mean? 

message: The following paragraph in the section "Brutus' Oath" is incorrect and should be corrected. Contrary to legend, there is no real proof that Marcus Junius Brutus, despite the similar names, was a direct descendant of the earlier Brutus.
One of the main charges of the senatorial faction that plotted against Julius Caesar after he had the Roman Senate declare him dictator for life, was that he was attempting to make himself a king, and a co-conspirator Cassius, enticed Brutus' direct descendant, Marcus Junius Brutus, to join the conspiracy by referring to his ancestor.
Marcus Junius Brutus was a key member of the conspiracy to kill Caesar because his family conexions and his personal caracter increased the alleged "legitimacy" of the deed. The fact that his name was similar to the earlier Brutus was an added bonus that they exploited, but it is not necessarily true.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.116.126.10 (talk) 11:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Brutus' direct descendant, Marcus Junius Brutus" 

message: The Tarquinius Superbus article states that Lucius Junius Brutus is in the royal family; I think some genealogical detail here might be interesting? Sisyphus88 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 11:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descent? 

message: I am at some point going to check and improve this article (not too far away) but for the nonce I notice one thing I am changing: the link of slow-wittedness to "mental retardation." The article on the latter takes a clinical approach. Persons in that modern category are sufficiently dysfunctional as not to be able to live in our society without supervision. They could certainly not function at court or pass in any way as normal in society. Sometimes they are in society but only under the obvious close supervision of a guardian. That condition, whatever it is considered to be, is certainly not being portrayed by the Roman historians. Such a person would not be in the army, would not be the intimate of high officers in it, would not be at war, would not be summoned by anyone as a legal witness, and would not be a court for its entertainment. No, Livy and others meant something quite different. By now there is quite a long tradition of princes hiding from tyrants under the mask of jovial and sort of stupid fool, the sort who would never be so clever as the clever tyrant and is not ambitious and is only interested in partying and carrying on. Did you not read Shakespeare? Why would Tarquin keep Brutus around court for entertainment if he did not pleasantly party on? Even the restoration king spent his last dime on the most jovial parties in Europe while in exile, instead of wasting his time and money on subversions that were sure to attract Puritan attention and a swarm of assassins. Notice that Brutus was so far advanced in people's affections that they accepted his revelations immediately, which they would not have done were he manifestly clinical among them. He played the pleasant fool to distract and entertain, nothing more. He was quite capable. We must not in our zeal to provide Wikipedia links add to history was is not in it.Dave (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Slow-wittedness

message: Lucius Iunius Brutus was the son of the sister of Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. (His mother's name was Tarquinia.)
Tarquinius Family Tree : http://www.ancientlibrary.com/smith-bio/3310.html  Böri (talk) 09:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucius Iunius Brutus & Lucius Tarquinius Collatinus were also Etruscans! 

message: This article, along with several other articles about ancient Romans, was changed to use a different infobox, . In consequence, there's discussion about which infobox to use and how at Talk:Julius Caesar#Infobox and then at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome#Infoboxes for Roman office-holders as a more central location. NebY (talk) 19:44, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox