Talk:Psychedelic therapy

message: An author of the article had given the translation of the word "Psychodelic" as "mind-manifesting". I have corrected that, because the common translation of the ancient greek term "psukhe" (which represents the correct philological-scholarly transcription in latin letters) or "psyche" (which is the commonly used variant in non-scholarly contexts) would certainly be "soul", as in "psycho-logy" = knowledge/study of the soul ! English "mind" one would usually translate for ancient greek "nous".147.142.186.54 (talk) 13:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: I "stumbled" over the use of the word "therapy" here, esp. in the sub-section "Psychodelic Therapy". 
Now, I am not familiar in any way with "North American practice". I know a little bit about the "psycholytic" method (since I am European), which employed certain drugs - in tiny doses within a professional therapeutic setting - to sort of "dissolve" BARRIERS to gain access to areas or material during a ps.therapeutic session that otherwise seemed "unaccessible" to the conscious of both the patient and the therapist; hence the drug itself would not in any way perform a "healing action", but work as a tool to open a pathway to "hidden chambers", the contents of which could then be dealt with by the humans involved in "conventional ways" (expressing, talking, analysing, clarifying connections to behaviour and symptoms, "working through" [psycho-jargon] etc.). - I find that the article is misleading on this point, because it makes the reader assume that the DRUG is actively "setting things right" in the human (patient's) psyche, which to my knowledge it does not and was not believed to effect. And mind you, that is a fundamental difference: it sounds like "take a pill (albeight one prescribed by a physician) - and 'bingo' you are all right". Like an easy treatment with psychopharmacological drugs, same strategy, same action...
Now by contrast, says the article, elsewhere (i.e. predom. in N.America) high doses are used to provoke or create "ecstatic" experiences and the like. It is not clear to me, and the article does not elaborate in any way, WHY such things would act or contribute to HEAL that patient, and then, what understanding of "healing" might be shared by the proponents of such practices, and on what timescale it is thought to manifest itself - and stay stable - ? etc. With other words, what precisely would set it apart from some person just taking stuff at home on their couch in order to have fun, escape boredom, get a "kick", escape unpleasant emotions, forget their mental and emotional trouble and pain etc. If all sorts of things are supposed to qualify as "therapy", the term looses meaning. If it is to retain its meaning, what makes drug taking while sharing a room with a person who considers himself a "therapist" a "healing" activity ?? - That needs to be explained, because it is the core of the whole topic !
Regards, Sophophilos: 147.142.186.54 (talk) 13:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an alternative therapy when used with that method, so based on beliefs held by those who believe in it, if you see what I mean.  They tend to have a self-development type ethos in line with Esalen or Timothy Leary or Stanislav Grof- and their views are not endorsed by many people (rightly or wrongly.)
How can an article entitled "Psychedelic Therapy" have a section called "Psychedelic Therapy"? Myrvin (talk) 12:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Therapy"

message: I'm revising the page a lot to include citations from the BBC etc.  Many of these claimed studies can be sourced, and I genuinely intend to do so.  Hence the tags.  Feel free to help.:) special, random,Merkinsmum 17:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: edits/reliable sources

message: I edited the current research section as it seemed to lack npov and read like a press release for John Halpern and MAPS.  They have been very visible in media accounts of psychedelic research but the extent of their achievements is not clear, since researchers like Rick Strassman and Franz Vollenweider and organizations like the Heffter Research Institute also deserve significant recognition.  Human research with hallucinogens has been possible since Strassman established a precedent at the FDA.  Many groups in the US and world are now doing human psychedelic work.  However, organizations like MAPS have encountered difficulties.  I tried to add in an a clear explanation of why that is.
--68.167.207.250 (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Current research

message: Efforts to utilize the purely pharmacological properties of LSD and other drugs in psychedelic treatment were completely abandoned after it was realized that they had no direct chemotherapeutic curative properties.  Rather, it is through the unique introspective state attained by the patient (with the drug as a ‘catalyst’), in combination with a positive, empathetic relationship with an experienced psychotherapist, that the actual ‘healing’ can occur.
:Let's see the sources for this, please. Viriditas (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR removed 

message: According to the accounts of Grof and Halifax, a pediatrician named Valentina Pavlovna Wasson, was intrigued by the use of psychedelic mushrooms by Mexicans. She further turned out to be the first recorded Westerner to be admitted into a “sacred ritual led by a medicine woman”. The use of psychedelic mushrooms was supposedly a natural characteristic of the Columbian cultures, and it had spread wide across Central America. After the use of this substance, the effect of the mushrooms left a great impression upon Valentina. She later revealed that these magic mushrooms could be put into use for deep psychic experiences and even other various medical/therapeutic uses. These mushrooms are identified as Psilocybe mexicana (Psylocybin).
Nonetheless, before the West had the begun its deep research and experiments into the benefits of psychedelic therapy, the use of these psychedelic plants were referred as mystical healing powers across most ancient cultures. It became a tradition to use these plants for all their communal rituals. It would be involved in death mostly, helping those in pain transition into the next dimension. This transition would be a part of a shared experience, as the “shaman or the wise leader would ingest these psychedelic plants or would make the group do so” in order to conduct the ritualistic process properly. Psilocybin, marijuana and mescaline were commonly practiced for these spiritual experiences. The active psychedelic properties of most of these hallucinogenic plants came under the inspection of Western scientists only recently.
Sizeofint (talk) 15:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Parking newly added content here for now

message: I have restructured the bulk of the page to make more sense. I isolated information about its history to a single sequential section. I removed information about the applications of therapy from the history section to its own Applications section. I also added a significant amount of information about studies conducted after 2000, which the original page lacked almost completely.
In the near future, I plan to review/revise the opening summary, Methods section, and Applications section to make sure each is written in a non-biased fashion and that all claims are cited. Additionally, I would like to add a "PTSD" subheader underneath the new Applications section and attempt to fill in some information. I want to add more information to the new "Early Psychedelic Therapy" subheader. 
Jakexx360 (talk) 17:31, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Those were generally good changes, thanks! Please see the note I left at your talk page about sourcing (no primary sources please) and formatting citations (which were mostly correct!) Jytdog (talk) 17:46, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent & Upcoming Changes 

message: I can find a lot of hype and claims on this topic but there is no evidence. Research about it is biased: small sample groups, no randomization, lack of long term observation etc. 
    
I think this page should be thoroughly revised and corrected, highlighting the evidence we have on "Psychedelic therapy".
Digressivo (talk) 10:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of research has been done since the discussion on lack of evidence, but there is a lot of large RTC's that still need to be done. Will be updating this page with systematic reviews and meta-analysis. Td1678 (talk) 13:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of scientific evidence on "Psychedelic therapy" 

message: He tenido experiencias propias con referente al tema  watherlobo21@gmail.com 181.203.24.134 (talk) 00:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cómo participar en la investigación ? 

message: I see no mention of risks or side effects. Today's New York Times has a balanced article summarizing what's known, both potential benefits and risks; see . NightHeron (talk) 11:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: PMID:30102078 would seem pertinent. Bon courage (talk) 02:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: yes very pertinent, agree--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:24, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't side effects be mentioned? 

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message: A recent edit  concerning psychedelic therapy and domestic violence is sourced to PsyPost , a website that says it is "dedicated to reporting on latest research". I don't think its use in this article is compliant with WP:PRIMARY and WP:MEDRS, but I'd like to know what others think. Thanks. NightHeron (talk) 07:13, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Is PsyPost RS?

message: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2024/03/11/fda-grants-breakthrough-therapy-status-to-lsd-drug-to-treat-anxiety/?sh=5230d4437ccb
It is a form of LSD (lysergide d-tartrate) designated as MM120, is being developed by biopharma company MindMed as a treatment for general anxiety disorder (GAD).
I'm not a seasoned Wikipedia editor but thought I'd add this to the talk page as I think it would be notable for inclusion 134.134.139.78 (talk) 15:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Already mentioned. Bon courage (talk) 16:02, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  FDA Grants Breakthrough Therapy Status To LSD Drug To Treat Anxiety