Talk:Crisis of the Roman Republic

message: I've wikified this article, but haven't done any fact-checking or cross-referencing with the other related articles, as I lack expertise on the subject. Someone who is familiar with it may want to do some moving between here, Roman Republic, and Roman Empire. - Che Nuevara: Join the Revolution 13:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crisis of the Roman Republic

message: The cruelty and ubiquity of slavery in the ancient world, especially Rome, can not be overstated, and its iniquity was a reason that the Republic always seemed to be in crisis
What the hell is that? 24.42.93.217 (talk) 04:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we may have an instance of our modern moral horror imposing an interpretation on political events of antiquity. I'm not aware of any historians of antiquity who would assign this much weight to the institution of slavery in the collapse of the Republic—obviously, since the Empire lived long and prospered for centuries after, without any abatement of slavery, and a possible increase. Do we actually have RS that put forth this thesis? I'm going to tag the section, and if there are no objections, I'll move it to Slavery in ancient Rome, which needs good-quality material. The dominant thesis seems to be quite missing: that Roman expansionism enriched a few "great men" such as Pompey and Caesar, upset the republican balance of power, and created a political crisis. After all, this is not an article about the fall of Rome, but a shift from a republican form of government to the rule of the emperors. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added back some removed text, cites, and quotes, but have edited those down quite a bit.  We need to add more, as suggested by Cynwolfe, on Pompey and Caesar, as well as other points of view. Bearian (talk) 10:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Ludicrous Hyperbole

message: In this line:
The start of the Social War (91–88 BC), when Rome fought her nearby Italian neighbours, may be thought of as the beginning of the end of the Republic.[15][16] Fields also suggests that things got much worse with the Samnite War around 82 BC.[17]
Usually the involvement of the Samnites in the Civil Wars of Sulla and Marius aren't considered a part of the overall older Samnite Wars of the Roman Republic. I'd believe rewording it to mention it as part of the Civil Wars of Sulla makes more sense.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vondur (talk • contribs) 16:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion of the Samnite wars regarding the Civil Wars of Sulla and Marius 

message: A simple, 3-way Venn Diagram could be used to give readers a visual representation of what historians agree and disagree were contributing factors to the fall of the Roman Republic.he article would probably receive a better rating if it had also had a concluding paragraph that summed up the final gasp of the Roman Republic and how it transformed into the Roman Empire, it seems to just tail off in the middle of the article if left untouched. I also had one small issue with one sentenced that read, "Some of Gaius's followers caused the death of a man,..." This sentence, while technically grammatically correct leaves the reader feeling confused about what the author is talking about, I had to re-read a few times. I would remove the "manslaughter" link on "death of a man" and reword the sentence to include something about how his followers were accused of manslaughter instead of using the clunky, confusing phrase "caused the death of a man." Overall, the article was written well but just a few more citations, a visual representation, and a concluding paragraph briefly discussing the Roman Empire would make it a "good" Wikipedia article.
Kywhalen0817 (talk) 00:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crisis of the Roman Republic Article Evaluation- HST 100  

message: Article really needs a rework; a review of the three main theories on the fall of the republic should definitely be included. It definitely does not help that this article ends at Pompey and doesn't talk at all about the "fall" of the republic with Caesar etc.
See generally  Ifly6 (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really needs a rework; major parts missing