Talk:Cassandra Clare

message: Does Cassandra Clare meet the criteria for notability? I had held off from creating an entry for her book/series because I did not think it met grounds for notability. Currently the sources cited are her own website and links to fanfiction which is attributed to a different spelling of her name (without making light of the name change).
At this point in time I don't believe this author merits an entry Nancy Vandal 06:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I love how this controversy, despite being arguably the most well-known thing about her before she altered her pen name and got the Mortal Instruments published, is completely and utterly unmentioned in this article - she's notorious for it, and it verifiably happened, and it's just not even MENTIONED. It's like it's been completely whitewashed from it. Unsettling... 68.202.85.105 (talk) 04:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: The consensus of the debate was keep, but there was also a suggestion to merge the the article.  Editors are certainly free to come to a consensus about merging content. Cool Hand Luke 05:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD result

message: This whole article is pretty closely cribbed from:
* http://www.cassandraclare.com/bio.html
by User:Cassieclare
Comments before I tag it as a copyvio? --Jack Merridew 10:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyvio or COI? 

message: Where's the mention of Draco Dormiens/Draco Sinister/Draco Veritas that we KNOW belongs in this article? The Draco Trilogy was largely responsible for a number of highly common portrayals of Draco, in addition to extremely popular methods of 'shipping him. I suggest working off of [ here ] in terms of information, and the actual text can be found here  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.21.94 (talk) 17:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More importantly, it was one of the early works that shot her to fame, and then subsequently shot her to infamy after it was found a portion was lifted from a Pamela Dean novel without proper credit (regardless of whether you feel fanfiction.net was right to ban her for it, it DID happen, and it WAS an infamous case in fandom). The fact that it is just completely absent is strange and disconcerting. 68.202.85.105 (talk) 04:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draco Trilogy 

message: In my search for some sources to show notability, I found these interviews but I couldn't figure out how to work them into the article:
* Blog Critics
* Powells
* Write Words
If someone else could weave them in, that would be great. -- KittyRainbow (talk) 16:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: An article that you have been involved in editing, City of Bones, has been listed for deletion.  If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City of Bones.  Thank you. Jack Merridew 12:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD nomination of [[City of Bones]]

message: I've journeyed into Lexus Nexus to add more than a half-dozen relevant legal journal, newspaper, and book sources for these claims. Can we please put this to rest now? The last thing this article needs is a reliable host for CC's well-known fan fiction. How can this be accomplished? Infoaddict1 (talk) 22:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I love how those references to  the whole thing have been erased from everywhere but the talk page. If someone can track down the stuff that's clearly been removed, please do so. It's such a gap I'm not sure where to start... 68.202.85.105 (talk) 04:47, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

text: the Very Secret Diaries - http://www.ealasaid.com/misc/vsd/ or http://web.archive.org/web/20040115101006/http://homepages.nyu.edu/%7Eamw243/diaries/ Alanthehat (talk) 12:57, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

text: the Draco Trilogy - quite a lengthy article here - http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Draco_Trilogy - including references & links Alanthehat (talk) 13:45, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither Fanlore.org nor Ealasaid.com can be considered reliable enough for controversial information about a living person. See the BLP guideline. Binksternet (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on Fan Fiction, Plagiarism debate  

message: it seems that most authors' articles don't list every award/nomination. Some articles include a link to a separate "Awards earned by Author X" article, others, like JK Rowling only note a few awards within the article's text. For now, I'm going to remove all the nominations and leave the wins, and note that she has received numerous other nominations. If someone else would like to create the page "Awards and nominations of Cassandra Clare" they would be more than welcome to. Infoaddict1 (talk) 22:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards section 

message: In numerous cases the Infernal Devices series are called The Clockwork Angel, The Clockwork Prince, or The Clockwork Princess. This is wrong, but I can't edit them unfortunately. 174.84.238.186 (talk) 02:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed - thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 19:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infernal Devices Titles 

message: Please change the titles of Ms Clare's upcoming untitled The Dark Artifices books to Prince of Shadows (book #2) and The Queen of Air and Darkness (book #3).
Cassandra Clare herself has revealed these titles on her tumblr
Thank you.
Cat1987 (talk) 14:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 8 March 2013 

message: Change the information under the "The Bane Chronicles" heading from 
[
"Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale"
"The Rise and Fall of the Hotel Dumort"
"Saving Raphael Santiago"
"What To Buy The Shadowhunter Who Has Everything (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)"
]
to
[
"What Really Happened in Peru"(April 2013)
"The Runaway Queen"(May 2013)
"Vampires, Scones and Edmund Herondale"(June 2013)
"The Midnight Heir"(July 2013)
The Rise of the Hotel Dumort"(August 2013)
"Saving Raphael Santiago"(September 2013)
"The Fall of the Hotel Dumort"October 2013)
"The Course of True Love (and First Dates)"(November 2013)
"What to Buy the Shadowhunter Who Has Everything: (And Who You're Not Officially Dating Anyway)"(December 2013)
"The Last Stand of the New York Institute"(January 2014)
]
Can Amazon be used as a source? This is one potential link (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywords=the+bane+chronicles&qid=1375303897&rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Athe+bane+chronicles&sort=daterank)
This change would update the list, arrange it chronologically and include approximate dates. Without it, the list is incomplete and confusing.
I would  not abuse my account if given the chance to update this page myself.
Turquise001998 (talk) 21:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 31 July 2013 

message: Please change clokwork princess from to be released to released on March 19, 2013.
Dualdragoon (talk) 21:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to have already been addressed? Both of the mentions of the book on the page appear to have the correct release date. If there is an incorrect date (or a tbr) left on the page, please provide the specific section and/or paragraph in which it appears. Thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 11 September 2013 

message: Add to Bibliography
Tales From The Shadowhunter Academy Serial http://www.shadowhunters.com/shadowhunteracademy
-Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015)
-The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015)
-The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015)
-Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015)
-The Evil We Love (June 16 2015)
-Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015)
-Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015)
-The Fiery Trial  (September 15 2015)
-Born to Endless Night  (October 20 2015)
-Angels Twice Descending  (November 17 2015)
The Dark Artifices http://www.shadowhunters.com/darkartifices
-Lady Midnight (2015)
-The Prince Of Shadows (?)
-The Queen Of Air And Darkness (?)
It is the sequel to The Mortal Instruments, takes place 5 years after TMI.
Goodbelle (talk) 19:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2014 

message: Please, could you guys add Cassandra's new series: The Last Hours, The Wicked Powers, Tales from the Shadowhunters' Academy and the Secret Treasons. Also, there are more books in the Magisterium Series. 
It should be something like this:
The Last Hours:  Chain of Thorns (unknown), Chain of Gold (unknown), Chain of Iron (unknown). http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/90391574799/books-books-books
The Wicked Powers: Three books, unknown titles and release dates. http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/90391574799/books-books-books
Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy (co-written with Sarah Rees Brennan, Maureen Johnson and Robin Wasserman): Welcome to Shadowhunter Academy (February 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Lost Herondale (March 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), The Whitechapel Fiend (April 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Maureen Johnson), Nothing but Shadows (May 19 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Evil We Love (June 16 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Pale Kings and Princes (July 21 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman), Bitter of Tongue (August 18 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), The Fiery Trial (September 15 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Born to Endless Night (October 20 2015, Cassandra Clare and Sarah Rees Brennan), Angels Twice Descending (November 17 2015, Cassandra Clare and Robin Wasserman). http://www.shadowhunters.com/shadowhunteracademy/
The Secret Treasons: The Secret Treasons is the graphic novel project telling the story of the early days of the Circle. It was co-written by Cassandra Clare and John Ney Rieber. The art will be done by Cassandra Jean, and will be published by Yen Press. http://tmisource.com/2014/11/23/exclusive-cassandra-clare-and-holly-black-talk-about-the-iron-trial-diversity-and-a-bat-part-one/
Magisterium Series: The Iron Trial (September 9 2014), The Copper Gauntlet (Semptember 2015), The Cosmos Blade (Semptember 2016), The Golden Boy (Semptember 2017) and The Enemy of Death (Semptember 2018). http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/90391574799/books-books-books
WikiWiggle (talk) 21:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Hi there. Per WP:CRYSTAL, we don't add items until they are released. Stickee (talk) 00:21, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014 

message: The links for CC's 2nd and 3rd Dark Artifices books both go to unrelated wiki pages. Also, the first book in the series isn't due to release until March 2016, but the wiki page has it listed for 2015 
http://www.cassandraclare.com/my-writing/novels/the-dark-artifices/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Originalisme (talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  EDIT request 

message: Clare was written wrong in the fan fiction heading and Clare is currently writing another Shadowhunters story, the Last Hours Series
2601:543:4403:3CCB:246A:10BB:77DA:5750 (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: - as explained in the third paragraph of "Personal life" she has issued books under both names.  As for the "currently writing" statement, you have not citted a reliable source without which no information should be added or changed - Arjayay (talk) 18:42, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2016 

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message: Just a quick note on the the Magisterium Series: the titles' list is outdated; Book 4 of the series is called "The Silver Mask" and came out Oct 2017. (see https://www.amazon.com/Silver-Mask-Magisterium-Book/dp/0545522366/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519651206&sr=8-1&keywords=the+silver+mask)
And according to the author's tumblr's page, Book 5 is titled "The Golden Tower" and coming out Sept 2018 (http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/170912034174/books-schedule-books). Would be nice, if someone with edit rights could update that, thanks!
Cheers User:AviendaBG  —Preceding undated comment added 13:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: The Magisterium Series 

message: this is something very small but on the very last sentence, it says she has been renewed for a second season of the Bang tan velvet (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:   edit request: The mortal instruments series 

message: Hi, the books listed under the Magisterium series have the wrong titles for book 4 and 5. Book 4 is The Silver Mask and book 5 is The Golden Tower
https://www.goodreads.com/series/104048-magisterium
https://www.cassandraclare.com/the-magisterium-series/ Jamieb25 (talk) 13:33, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Corrected titles of the 4th and 5th books. Its also odd that the titles were wrong on the author's page but were correct on The Magisterium Series article. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 14:51, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2018 

message: The word "respectively" is misused, suggesting that her mother is the professor and her father the author, when it's the other way around.
This could be fixed by changing "Elizabeth and Richard Rumelt" to "Richard Rumelt and Elizabeth Rumelt".
I would also suggest changing "author" to "writer" regarding Elizabeth's profession in order to match the source more accurately. Not all writers are authors, and the article only says writer. Jadamgreen (talk) 06:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: When this was originally added, it was referring to Richard being "a professor and author", somehow "respectively" found its way in there later. I couldn't find a source mentioning her mother. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2020 

message: Suggest the paragraph "In 2016, The Guardian reported that Clare was being sued by Sherrilyn Kenyon for 'wilfully copying' her novels.[13]" be amended to add "Kenyon's suit was amended to drop the copyright claims and the remaining dispute over branding and cover designs was settled for an undisclosed amount." with citation https://www.vulture.com/2019/06/romance-author-sherrilyn-kenyon-said-her-husband-poisoned-her.html as the current state of the page is misleading.  Or delete the line entirely.  Thanks. Oryu~enwiki (talk) 12:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: —Sirdog (talk) 00:04, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2022 

message: Change “The Mortal Instruments series” section to “written works” or something similar with “The Mortal Instruments” being a sub section inside that area. MAJOR updates needed to her “written works” mentions also. She has 2 separate book series out, the most popular includes the currently mentioned titles but there are many more. Without extensive detail on plot or publishing her written works are as follows. 
(Shadowhunters is the name of the entire series, each numbered title is the name of a series of books within the Shadowhunters series, each book title is listed below the individual series name)
Shadowhunters Series
1. The Mortal Instruments part 1
   - City of Bones
   - City of Ashes
   - City of Glass
2. The Mortal Instruments part 2
   - City of Fallen Angels
   - City of Lost Souls
   - City of Heavenly Fire
3. The Eldest Curses
   - The Red Scrolls of Magic
   - The Lost Book of the White
4. The Infernal Devices
   - Clockwork Angel
   - Clockwork Prince
   - Clockwork Princess
5. The Dark Artifices
   - Lady Midnight
   - Lord of Shadows
   - Queen of Air and Darkness
6. The Last Hours
   - Chain of Gold
   - Chain of Iron
   - Chain of Thorns
7. Books not part of a series
   - The Bane Chronicles
   - The Shadowhunters Codex
   - Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy
   - Ghosts of the Shadow Market
8. Wicked Powers (announced but not yet published)
The Magisterium Series (co-author)
   - The Iron Trial
   - The Copper Gauntlet
   - The Silver Mask
   - The Bronze Key
   - The Golden Tower
The Sword Catcher Series (announced but not yet published)
Website for reference. https://cassandraclare.com/coming-soon/ 2603:6010:440:56:D0B4:7C6D:75C2:E688 (talk) 18:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: We already have a section called "Bibliography". Aaron Liu (talk) 12:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2022 

message: Given the renewed interest (as evidenced in the link below) in CC's controversies regarding plagiarism due to her releasing the synopsis for her upcoming book, it seems as relevant as ever to include this information:
https://www.distractify.com/p/cassandra-clare-plagiarism
There have been many articles linked above that show that this is a topic that is substantially discussed and relevant to the author and her work. In July 2022, a short section was added regarding this topic and then subsequently removed just over a day later with the reasoning of it being "duplicative of the paragraph in the 'personal life" section'"
However, the personal life section does not mention anything other than the lawsuit despite these being separate but related instances. If an author was sued for copyright infringement when there are already existing accusations, these are obviously relevant and are worth mentioning. 
I am confused how it has gotten to a point where this is being purposely removed from her Wikipedia page despite being something that is intertwined with her writing and reputation. It is not Wikipedia's job to whitewash information. I would argue it is actually Wikipedia's job to intentionally and purposely avoid whitewashing. This information needs to be included. If it is deliberately being removed over and over again, it becomes incredibly apparent that this article is no longer acting as a non-biased source of information but instead as a shield to protect her reputation, which as another user said, is not Wikipedia's intent or job. PoisonIvyTV (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I greatly reworked the material, bringing in authoritative sources. The section should be suitable now for all readers. Binksternet (talk) 02:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renewed Plagiarism Accusations