Talk:Languages of Australia

message: I would be interested in others' opinions on whether the modified English spoken by post-WWII European migrants constitutes a creole.
My parents came from [then] Yugoslavia and lived in a market gardening community where most interactions were with other Serbo-Croatian speakers.  That community's uptake of English was therefore quite slow, until radio and tv and kids who were effectively bilingual made an impact.  Talking to folks from other backgrounds - mainly Italians but also Greeks and more recent Middle Eastern migrants - there seems to be a fairly similar mix of scrappy English, particular pronunciation and grammar, and lots of hand gestures.  Although I think it was barely intelligible at times to Anglo-Australians [who seemed to have trouble with anything other than standard English] it was reasonably intelligible between migrants from different countries.  Now my parents have been here for more than 50 years and can carry on a reasonable conversation but still have the same grammar, so its got more English words but is otherwise still not English.
I have hear this referred to as 'Woglish' and it has been affectionately parodied by the Wogs out of World folk, and [much less funny to me] Mark Mitchell as Con the Fruiterer.  Although its disappearing [I think as the local more recent Middle Eastern, Asian and African migrants seem to be working a different sort of way] it is a strong part of my upbringing and many other people's memories.
I look forward to hearing what other folk think [[[Special:Contributions/60.242.50.195|60.242.50.195]] (talk) 09:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pidgins and creoles 

message: This edit was improperly made to the article. However, it may be worth referring to  the link provided by the editor in case his or her challenge is valid. (I haven't checked it yet so I'm not sure)That link is here. --AussieLegend (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment moved from article 

message: I have reverted changes from July 2013 that changed the beginning of the article to indicate that English was the official language of Australia. The reference provided was a national fact sheet on Australia provided by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which listed "English" in the "Official Language" field. I would be surprised if this document establishes an official language at law, and would be reluctant to allow this to completely change the polarity of the opening statement of the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilious (talk • contribs) 12:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official language of Australia 

message: Are there any wikipedia guidelines that a graph has to actually have a key? a written description about what colour = what ethnic group on the map would not be very helpful to the color blind  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.16.58 (talk) 06:08, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graphs on this page 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Australia has no official language, there is no although about it. --115.69.59.49 (talk) 05:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia has no official language. 

message: Shouldn't "English" also be there? - Francis Tyers · 23:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Immigrant languages

message: Hello all
 I have expanded the content and added reliable sources. I have added a table. I have removed a redundant graphic. Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: Hello all
 
I have changed the heading to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island languages, which is more accurate. I have updated the information to reflect the latest census and NILS data. I have added content to a number of sub-heading which were empty. Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aboriginal languages 

message: Hello all. This term is no longer used in the majority of reliable sources in Australia. I have changed this heading to Other languages which is neutral and descriptive. I have added content with sources. I have also moved some content from other sections here. Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immigrant languages 

message: Hello all. This term is no longer used in the majority of reliable sources in Australia. I have changed this heading to Language education which better describes the content. I have added content with sources. Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:14, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign languages 

message: Hello all. I have changed the lead to better reflect the expanded content of the article and to better conform with MOS:LEAD Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: Hello all. I have simplified the info box in order to better reflect the content of the article. The infobox contained too much complex information and detail which was misleading and is better explained in the lead and the body of the article. See MOS:INFOBOX. Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 01:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info box 

message: This article, like many others, reports on native speakers and/or "speaks only (language) at home."  I don't have access to Ethnologue myself, but I look to articles like this to know what percentage of the population I can communicate with, not just how many are native speakers of (language).  Especially in countries where English is not common, and I wonder whether any of my other languages will be useful there.  People tell me "English is everywhere," but I've spent time in thirty countries (a month or more in eight) and I know it's not true. 伟思礼 (talk) 02:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would love to see more "L2" information in Wikipedia