Talk:Monreale

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In the central apse at Monreale, behind the high altar, is a fine marble throne for the archbishop. This position of the throne is a survival of the early basilican arrangement, when the apse and altar were at the west end. In that case the celebrant stood behind the altar at mass, and looked over it eastwards towards the people. On the north side, in front of the high altar, is another similar throne for the use of the king.
This is not correct. The "fine marble throne" is not in evidence in the apse. The Bishop's throne is opposite the king's throne (facing each other, south-north) on either side of the high altar. The basilican arrangement with the apse and altar at the west end, like St Peter's Basilica in Rome, is only found in Roman basilicas converted to Christian use. Roman basilicas faced west, but Christian churches faced east. The Monreale Cathedral was built in the 1100s and thus the church was bulit facing east. Even if the bishop's chair was in the apse, the direction of prayer would be eastward (toward the apse) and the celebrant would not face the people over the altar(face west) but face east toward the apse. This arrangement can be seen in Eastern Orthodox churches and cathedrals to this day - even though the bishop's throne is in the apse, he still walks to the west side of the altar and turns to face east. We know this is true in the Latin Rite at the time that the Monreale Cathedral was built because the rubrics of the Old Roman Rite stipulate that the bishop should stand from his chair, turn, and face the east wall wall of the apse when leading prayer. He preached facing the people (westward) but prayed eastward.Jm3106jr (talk) 13:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
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