Talk:Comfort women/Archive 3

message: please see the following article for additional information regarding the use of the comfort women by U.S. troops stationed in Japan until the spring of 1946: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/25/comfort.women.ap/index.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.145.108.11 (talk) 16:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the google cache of CNN article. It's not true to state that the Americans were innocent and unaware that the comfort women were being forced into sexual slavery. Many knew, and ignored it. Parsecboy 22:44, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Troops' Use of Comfort Women Post WWII 

message: I would like to see how Congressman Mike Honda will accuse US Government and US Army in terms of Japanese comfort women who were forced to be prostitutes for US soldiers. Because Honda is currently accusing Japanese Government about Korean comfort women, he should also accuse US Government also. This is the violation of human rights of women.
If Honda does not accuse, it will not fair. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Strongestgeorge (talk • contribs) 20:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean comfort women & Japanese comfort women  

message: to International Commission of Jurists, when protection's lifted. Bolivian Unicyclist 14:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Link needed

message: new victim in Jiangsu, China stands out
You know, not everyone understands Chinese. Is there a Translation? Ah, and by the way please sign.--LordofHavoc 06:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: new victim stand out

message: The Recreation and Amusement Association (RAA, 特殊慰安施設協会), or more literally Special Comfort Facility Association, was the official euphemism for the prostitution centers arranged for occupying U.S. armed forces by the Japanese Government after World War II. Eric Talmadge, GIs frequented Japan's 'comfort women' .Associated Press, Apr. 25, 2007, 9:55 PM EDT.
The RAA was created on August 28, 1945 by the Japanese Home Ministry to contain the sexual urges of the occupation forces and protect the main Japanese populace from rape.  The RAA's own slogan was "For the country, a sexual breakwater to protect Japanese women" (お国のために日本女性を守る性の防波堤).  
In September, the system was extended to cover the entire country. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.76.64.144 (talk) 03:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Congressman Mike Honda should accuse Japanese Government and Home Ministry of Japan for Japanese comfort women who were forced by Japanese government after WWII to be prostitutes for US soldiers.  

message: Of course these FACTS have been thoroughly checked. So would you please provide us with the exact sources for Semarang being an island? I feel very ashamed: nearly three centuries of Dutch colonialism and we failed to notice. 
Both the Dutch and the English Wikipedia with their flawed governance still seem to believe that is just a city. But lucky for us there are always Japanese government documents to help us out.
In the improbable case of an error in the blog or the advert: no sweat, people make mistakes. Admit them, correct them, period. Maybe you might want to check other statements too. However I feel that considering people untrustworthy for making a mistake in a statement would be unfair. Especially in the case of highly educated middle aged men enjoying peacetime tranquillity;-)
♥ Stuart LaJoie → talk2me 13:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humble request 

message: That the litany of Japanese war crimes includes the serial rape and degredation of women from occupied areas is irrefutable. The Canute like efforts of these deniers here is reprehensible and worthy of trenchant criticism if not banning outight. I understand that this is what has happened to some deniers of the Holocaust perpetrated my forebears, the Germans, and their allies at the same time. Why can't we do this in this case instead of the this silly edit protect that pervents me form adding recently documented information on the activities of the Japanese in Rabaul. The edit protect should be removed and if someone serially disrupts the page ban them even if they are a BS MBS PHD from Tokyo or anywhere else for that matter. Albatross2147 00:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is a farce 

message: Fact One
Does not prove there was no sex slavery, only that no records now exist. It is a logical falsity to move from “no records” to no “sex slavery”.
Fact Two
That some action was undertaken against sex slave brokers in no way can be used to demonstrate that all sex slave brokers were stopped. It does, however, establish at least one instance of sex slavery.
Fact Three
One instance of closing a brothel does not imply, as the authors wish to imply, that all were closed, only that one was. It does, however, establish that at least one was opened and staffed by forced sex slaves.
Falsified Fact3 Responsible officers were not punished by Japanese authorities.218.153.114.49 16:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Logic 

message: The Yomiuri Shimbun Editorial
The U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee has adopted a resolution demanding an apology from Japan over the so-called comfort women. But the resolution was based on an erroneous perception of the facts.
The resolution calls for the government to accept historical responsibility and apologize for "its Imperial Armed Forces' coercion of young women into sexual slavery." It describes "the comfort women system" as "one of the largest cases of human trafficking in the 20th century."
The resolution was made without verifying the facts and smacks of cheap rhetoric. It makes us doubt the intelligence of U.S. lawmakers.
In past studies, no evidence has been found showing "coercive recruitment of comfort women by military personnel or government officials". The government explicitly presented this observation in March in response to a question by an opposition lawmaker.
Ikedanobuo 00:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Get facts straight on comfort women

message: The debate over the existence, size, and nature of sexual slavery by the Japanese military during World War II continues to be debated.
The debate isn't debated, The facts are.
could "to be debated" be removed from the end of this sentence so the whole thing just reads as 
"The debate over the existence, size, and nature of sexual slavery by the Japanese military during World War II continues"
:It is necessary to define slavery first. The discussion will not end at all if slavery is not defined. --Azukimonaka 20:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  grammar correction 

message: "However despite many years of investigating the documentation the third reich were so thorough in producing, there has never been any written proof that any order was given by Hitler at this or any other meeting or conference.  
Arguments that no documentation links Hitler to "the Holocaust" ignore the records of his speeches kept by Nazi leaders such as Joseph Goebbels and rely on artificially limiting the Holocaust to exclude what we do have documentation on, such as the T-4 Euthanasia Program and the Kristallnacht pogrom."    
quoted from Holocaust article in Wikipedia.   
Japanese revisionists keep saying that there is no official hard document to prove the accusation.    
- Comfort women demanding justice 17:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese revisionist's logic: Not enough evidence to prove Hitler's responsibility for Holocaust 

message: Hata Ikuhiko, Professor Emeritus, Nihon University Excerpts:
Here we will focus on the testimony of Lee Yong-soo, who lives in Seoul at Nanum House, a home for former comfort women. Ms. Lee has visited Japan several times to tell her story. Here are some excerpts from her testimony at the hearing:Punsun knocked on my window early in the morning, and whispered to me to follow her quietly. I tip-toed out of the house after her. I lift [sic] without telling my mother. I was wearing a dark skirt, a long cotton blouse buttoned up at the front and slippers on my feet. I followed my friend until we met the same man who had tried to approach us on the riverbank. [Italics added]Since there is no evidence of kidnapping by a government authority, we must assume that the young women were deceived by Koreans — their compatriots. The fact that no Japanese living on the Korean peninsula had sufficient command of the Korean language to deceive a Korean woman lends even more credence to this assumption.
Ikedanobuo 02:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NO ORGANIZED OR FORCED RECRUITMENT: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT COMFORT WOMEN AND THE JAPANESE MILITARY

message: From Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape, Ballantine Books, 1993
By 1966, official military brothels had been established within each division’s camp. Each one was a two-building “recreation area” where 60 Vietnamese women lived and worked. The prostitutes decorated their cubicles with nude photographs from Playboy magazine and had silicone injected into their breasts to make the American soldiers feel more at home.
Ikedanobuo 03:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: U.S. Army's "Comfort Women" in the Vietnam War

message: Read the archives of this discussion where many editors advised not to repeat such foolish analogy with the Holocaust denial. There are hundreds of criminals who confessed they committed Holocaust. For example, see the 9 1/2-hour documentary Shoah. On the contrary, there is no witness in Japan who confessed he abducted comfort women except for the liar Yoshida.
Moreover, as Mr. Hata showed above, ex-comfort women in fact didn't prove the abduction by Army's order. Even the witness at the U.S. Congress said they followed the broker voluntarily. Ikedanobuo 03:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can read Japanese, you can enjoy the super-adventures of Kaneko who raped thousands of women in Nanjin atrocity and killed hundreds of Chinese in the 731 unit and murdered thousands of innocent people all over the Pacific ocean. It was obviously illegal but he was not punished in any court because he was a liar. He is a famous laughing matter in Japan. Ikedanobuo 02:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ridiculous analogy with the Holocaust

message: The Meeting of The Citizens who Demand The Full Withdrawal of Kono Statement handed petition with signatures of over 7000 people to primeminister Abe.YODAFON 13:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A group which demands Abe to full withdraw Kono statement

message: On July 30, U.S. Congress have called on Japan's government to formally apologise for its role in forcing thousands of women to work as sex slaves in World War II. The non-binding resolution was passed during a voice vote in the House of Representatives.
According to IHT, Tom Lantos, chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs, called "nauseating" the efforts by some in Japan "to distort and deny history and play a game of blame the victim." But the ex-comfort women said only that they might have been victims of somebody who sometimes wore "military-like suits". Ex-comfort women can't prove there were military orders to coerce them. And there are no document or testimony on the side of military officials that they ordered coercion. Ikedanobuo 02:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: U.S. Congress urges 'comfort women' apology

message: The resolution calls on Japan - one of the strongest US allies in Asia - to "formally acknowledge, apologise and accept historical responsibility in a clear and unequivocal manner" for the suffering of the women.  
*Earlier this month, a group of Japanese lawmakers demanded the US government retract the resolution, saying it was based on "wrong information that is totally different from the historical fact".  
*Tom Lantos House Committee on Foreign Affairs chairman  
**Those who posit that all of the comfort women were happily complicit and acting of their own accord simply do not understand the meaning of the word rape  
**Tom Lantos, chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs, described attempts to deny the use of sex slaves as "nauseating".  
**"There can be no denying the Japanese imperial military coerced thousands upon thousands of Asian women," Mr Lantos said.  
BBC news 
: It's more nauseating hypocrisy that American politicians make a false accusation of Japan with no historical evidence. In WW2, Japan after the war, and Vietnam, the U.S. Army employed thousands of "comfort women" in the battlefields. And it's even more nauseating that the country killing tens of thousands of innocent people in Iraq blames the prostitution more than 60 years ago. Ikedanobuo 02:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "No historical evidence"? You must be joking. And you clearly have no conception (or are in denial about) the distinction between sexual slavery and ordinary prostitution.  Now that's what I call nauseating. Grant | Talk 04:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nauseating denial (BBC news)