Template talk:Script/Hebrew

message: this should probably be redirected to . dab (𒁳) 07:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  What exactly does Ivrit do? This template is quite good, makes the use of more Hebrewish looking fonts. Epson291 09:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, we should get rid of Ivrit and use this one. Note that the font specifications are now in the css though. dab (𒁳) 11:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: merge

message: For some reason, this template causes the letters and niqqud to look separated and basically all over the place on my screen. I tried removing it from the Hebrew word at Egypt#Etymology and hit preview, and that fixed it. I'm not going to start removing it obviously, because I suspect this is only happening to me (my browser?) and I don't see any other comments about it. Would someone happen to know how to fix it? — Zerida 04:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Anon! Please don't make changes to this template without getting consensus first, and even then it's better if someone who has a better understanding of how it works does the job. This template appears on several thousand pages and every edit is therefore harmful to server traffic. I think the rendering problem is MacOS-specific, so a MacOS-specific font should be inserted somewhere in the middle (not as the first font). Right now your edits seem to work because this font doesn't exist natively on Windows, but someone should make an image of what it looks like for Windows users to see what you have done. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Can you please tell us if your edits fixed the problem? (I didn't revert them). As I said, I don't have this font so I can't tell. Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 18:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not always displaying properly 

message: What gives? El_C 22:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 125 percent?

message: Since this template doesn't work on all browsers (I suspect it works only if specific fonts are available), we shouldn't be using it. See the discussion at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Hebrew_language_in_infobox_of_Tel_Aviv. - Nunh-huh 00:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: broken rendering

message: (I separated Documantation from the template itself.) Now I suggest to make it :Template:pp-template-protected, so it can only be changed through an editor (who will check consensus on this Talkpage). Reason: higly used template, changes could have huge effects. If, on the other hand, there is no consenses now on protection, then we should not do so (but that would mean this big-used template is still experimental?!). Whaddayathink? -DePiep (talk) 21:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Into protection? 

message: Explicit font definitions like these negatively affect the display in modern browsers. Please move them to MediaWiki:Common.css/WinFixes.css. This has already been done for polytonic Greek or IPA. -- machᵗᵃˡᵏ 08:37, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please move explicit font definitions to [[MediaWiki:Common.css/WinFixes.css]] 

message: I just discovered an error in SBL Hebrew font with the glyph    ױ  ‎   (וי). It is displayed as if it were   (יו). However, I advise against removing it from the template, since this is the best font to display diacritics on smaller sizes and the glyph is rarely used, even in Yiddish, where the letters are written (ו) then (י), rather than the glyph. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 04:50, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The updated version had the problem fixed . I just tested it: ױ   I'm glad to know that. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 06:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SBL Hebrew 

message: The font order has been changed so that now a monospaced font appears before any serif fonts. Was this intentional? Surely not? The previous order worked really well on Windows, and AFAIK also on Mac, but if there are some fonts missing in other systems, let's see how we can put serif first, which is easier to read and IMO looks more aesthetic. —Ynhockey (Talk) 07:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, which font you are used is monospaced? --Great Brightstar (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you fixed it with the latest edits, but it's worth checking all popular OSs like Windows 10 and Android 6 to see what fonts they have built-in. —Ynhockey (Talk) 11:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monospaced font? 

message: In the source code I found a wrong font name "Frenk Ruehl CLM", plese correct as "Frank Ruehl CLM". Thanks. --Great Brightstar (talk) 16:56, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done \color{blue}\chichi (talk) 17:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix for wrong font name 

message: I created a TemplateStyle page for this page, so all articles using this template could get benefit of TemplateStyle to load font families once for the whole page. However, to make it available, you need to replace source codes by following codes:




-- Great Brightstar (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Using templatestyles is of course good..but I'm wondering; the documentation here says "The font-family definitions fix broken font display in Internet Explorer and in Mac OS X Firefox." The firefox bug has been fixed for 7 years; 7 years later I'm wondering if defining the font-families is necessary for any (supported by Wikipedia) browser. Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:27, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That depands on developers of MediaWiki. However this is really useful for some articles that using this template frequently, they will get lighter HTML file size, and so the page would loading faster than before. I was already made improves that have effects on some articles as Mongolian script and I got this result. --Great Brightstar (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Done, anyhow Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:44, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using TemplateStyles 

message: Please remove the ‬ (POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING) character from the template. As discussed above, it is not needed because it does not follow a LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING, RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING, LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE, RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE character (see the documentation of the Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm), and it causes problems on an older browser, Opera 12.
It should also be removed from all other subtemplates of , such as , that do not contain a LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING, RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING, LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE, or RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE character. — Eru·tuon 22:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done -- /Alex/21 22:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 25 February 2019 

message: I am encountering a similar backwards problem in old Opera on Sadducees#Disputes with the Pharisees, first paragraph. Thank you. --Smarkflea (talk) 13:21, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: To fix such currupts, one solution is add a LTR mark character into source code, like this:




 
So the content won't be disorder due to text directions.--Great Brightstar (talk) 08:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: When I edit that paragraph, this template is not shown in "Templates used in this section:". Maybe you could mock up an example on the testcases page that shows what you are seeing and how your proposed edit might fix it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh thanks for your digging up, I saw the template is replaced in there, now I copy the paragraph to produce new test cases. Can you reproduce it? Which browser is affected? --Great Brightstar (talk) 15:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Done Primefac (talk) 14:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  backwards on Sadducees 

message: The font-size property is already produced by template, so this should be removed from TemplateStyle page. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 16:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:07, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove font-size property from TemplateStyle page 

message: Normally, if a template is styling with TemplateStyles,  and the template is used frequently in one page, MediaWiki could substitutes the code as style tag at the first place, then substitutes a link tag with attributes refers it at any other places, however this could make the HTML file size larger and so slow down the page loading. To solve the problem, we need to make use of  to reduce the substitution. This is also recommended in WP:TSTYLE.

-- Great Brightstar (talk) 07:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems unnecessary to make use of that, sorry. --Great Brightstar (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integtating {{tl|Ifsubst}} 

message: Comparing to other Culmus fonts made with cantillation, Taamey Ashkenaz has good support for cantillation marks in both Bold and Medium weights, and gives more clear view on screen, so the TemplateStyles could be rewritten as this:
.script-hebrew,
.script-Hebr {
	font-family: 'SBL Hebrew', 'SBL BibLit', 'Taamey Ashkenaz', 'Taamey Frank CLM', 'Frank Ruehl CLM', 'Ezra SIL', 'Ezra SIL SR', 'Keter Aram Tsova', 'Taamey David CLM', 'Keter YG', 'Shofar', 'David CLM', 'Hadasim CLM', 'Simple CLM', 'Nachlieli', Cardo, Alef, 'Noto Serif Hebrew', 'Noto Sans Hebrew', 'David Libre', David, 'Times New Roman', Gisha, Arial, FreeSerif, FreeSans;
}
 -- Great Brightstar (talk) 00:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I trust that you know what you are doing here, and this request has languished without attention for 3 weeks, so  * Pppery * it has begun... 20:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consider give Taamey Ashkenaz more priority 

message: Do we really need a default specified font size that only breaks our custom specified sizes on Custom CSS?
The size font-size: 115% is the reason why I can't specify a font-size from my custom CSS.
If I add !important, in cases like the article, Hebrew alphabet, all Hebrew texts appear the same size, where the template is used to show some Hebrew text larger than other Hebrew texts within the article.
What to do then? I believe the default size here is unnecessary and bad practice. Leave it empty.
Is there a way to augment my style together with the default or how to solve this? I tried all phrases listed on Mozilla. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 02:39, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Default font size? 

message: Why is script in this template appearing in italics (desktop Chrome and Firefox)?  Is this intended?  Note that this is discouraged per MOS:BADITALICS.  Thanks.  —  AjaxSmack  00:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not: . Debresser (talk) 19:36, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What does "it does not" mean?  —  AjaxSmack  02:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  It does not render letters cursive, just straight. Debresser (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I found the issue: partial font installation.  Thanks.  —  AjaxSmack  00:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  All is well that ends well. Debresser (talk) 14:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why italics?