Talk:Berdan rifle

message: I don't see why it would be necessery to cross-reference Berdan rifle and Berdan Sharps rifle. They are related only through Hiram Berdan, and both accessable from that page. I might be wrong, but IMHO this calls for something more than "see also", at least something like "Berdan rifle is built upon Berdan Sharps rifle" (of course, if it's true). So far it looks like Hiram Berdan invented a whole bunch of staff.— Preceding unsigned comment added by  Cyberodin  (talk • contribs) 06:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't the place of origin should be the United States? It was invented there but it served with the Russian Army. It was NOT invented in Russia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.180.219  (talk) 04:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that the Berdan was introduced into Russia because it was the weapon used by the American Expeditionary Force in Siberia 1918-1920. JohnBuerer (talk) 01:18, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The Berdan was introduced in 1870. Toddy1 (talk) 08:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
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message: There are many inaccuracies in the article that should be corrected. Let me point at several of them so that someone could fix it.
The Berdan rifle (Vintovka Berdana in Russian) is a Russian rifle created by famous American firearms expert and inventor Hiram Berdan in 1868.
- 95.79.213.197 (talk) 13:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It was invented in 1867.  But a few rifles wee made for the Russians using the trap door principle of Berdan.  This was close to the Allin trap door, and soon abandoned.  The Russians mentioned below were at that time had reduced the Berdan .58 to .45, and they would reduce it further.  They eventually settled on the .42, but also some were made in .41.  Berdan in March 1867 decided to put the bolt in, as mentioned below, and the Russians Gorloff and Hennius worked with him to improve it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpyglf  (talk • contribs) 01:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know who Goonius is, but Hennius was the fellow working with Gorloff.  The actually preferred the Peabody, but were convinced to go with Berdan.  Berdan had the idea to put a bot in his rifle (not make a bolt rifle) in March 1867 after competion of the trials in NY.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpyglf  (talk • contribs) 01:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

text: This 30,000 orde was not for the trap door, but the Russian I.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpyglf  (talk • contribs) 01:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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message: In section Comparison with contemporary rifles the column of height of trajectory at 500 yd lists heights from about 2000 to close to 3000 m. Since values in next columns are about 15 m 1000 yd, about 50 m at 1500 yd, and about 100 m at 2000 yd, which fits to graphic representation of the curve of a shotč the first column values are far from fit to it. It is the same type of discrepancy for every rifle listed in the table in that column, so there is something wrong either with the values or the definition of the column of the Height of trajectory at 500 yd (and the table seems to be included by template from elsewhere, so the problem is probably there). Marjan Tomki SI (talk) 04:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elevation of trajectory at 500 Y