Talk:Dolores Ibárruri

message: Um...this seems either copied from somewhere, or copied from somewhere and run through a machine translation... Adam Bishop 19:15 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
:I concur, but it's moot now, as I've redone the whole article. --Jose Ramos 16:38, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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message: Are you sure that "Pasionaria" comes from Passion flower?
I've heard it's a religious thing.
Maybe because her first article was published in Passion week. 
-- Error 01:29, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: #REDIRECTPasionaria

message: My English is not good, but I wanna tell you the origin of "Pasionaria" nickname... 
It comes from a Virgin name, "Virgen de la Pasionaria", a Madonna with a dead Jesus... Dolores adopted it for religous motives. (her original name was Isidiora and also changed into Dolores for another Virgin, "La Virgen de los Dolores").--80.58.37.237 11:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be Nuestra Señora de la Pasión, I guess. A pasionaria would be one of her followers. --Error 23:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pasionaria 

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message: Is it possible for someone to include a pronunciation guide for the name? Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.105.193 (talk) 09:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The date is not may 1944, but march 1942 ; José Diaz died in 1942, no reason the party should stay without SG for 2 years ; anyway, there are sources, for instance : VASQUEZ MONTALBAN, Manuel : La Pasionaria et les sept nains, page 437 (french edition). From AUBRIANT (Wikipedia-fr and -es)--77.204.112.230 (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of her general secretariat

message: I thought she lived in Mexico for some time after leaving Spain, no? --Figsyrup (talk) 10:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexico 

message: Ibarruri is said to have bitten a priest to death.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.223.218 (talk) 15:47, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumour 

message: I believe the title of her autobiography is El Unico Camino (The Only Way) and not No Pasaran  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.59.154.178 (talk) 16:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autobiography

message: I just added a section in this article entitled Monuments and Memorials, to record information about the La Pasionara statue in Glasgow, which took inspiration from Dolores Ibarruri. I'm hoping that will allow people to put up other info about other monuments related to Dolores Ibarruri. This is my first ever proper edit. Please be kind in your comments. --Elflin (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: New Monuments and Memorials section

message: this entry states that Añoveros "defied Franco's decision to remove him". This seems to be a major distortion, since things went quite the opposite way. According to Stanley G. Payne (The Franco Regime, London 1987, pp. 595-6), it was the prime minister Arias Navarro who wanted to send Anoveros into exile, but Franco overruled the PM;  "despite his feebleness continued to meet with the cabinet almost every week, intervened to veto any drastic action. ... The sensible Tarancón then arranged for Añoveros to go on a long vacation, defusing the crisis".
The source quoted in the footnote is Ibarruri herself in a 1974 statement. Though it is quite possible that she indeed believed in 1974 that Anoveros "defied Franco", there is no reason an encyclopaedia repeats these misconceptions in 2014. It looks that Franco did not want Añoveros out; moreover, he opposed the decision to remove Añoveros and engineered a compromise solution. Since it never actually came to ousting Añoveros, it is hard to tell whether he would have opposed the decision or he would have complied. Anyway, suggest to change the passage accordingly. Dd1495 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Añoveros 

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message: That about sums this article up. A good half of it could be cut out, without the reader losing much. Especially if what is cut, is the rather breathless retelling of minor and irrelevant details.
The fact of the matter is, that this woman not only has countless of lives on her conscience. Like those of Nin and his POUM colleagues. She also lived the good life in Moscow, partied and went to the Bolshoi ballet (why how disgustingly bourgeois!), while others of her so called Spanish comrades in the USSR were tortured and murdered.
Why the above get mentioned in the article, the weight is completely off, and the unsavory facts are buried beneath a mountain of apologist irrelevant material.
By the way, I understand from wikipediophiles that it’s “stirring and brave” when Dolores said “It’s better to die standing up than to live on your knees.”
Does the same “stirring and brave” also apply to Mussolini’s “Better to live a day as a lion, than a thousand years as a sheep”?
185.107.12.99 (talk) 12:21, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too long, too irrelevant, too much glorification of a rather unpleasant character 

message: She became Secretary General of the PCE in 1944. José Díaz (the previous one) died in the Soviet Union in March 1942. Most reliable sources say that she became Secretary-General in 1944. There was a partial meeting of the central committee in the Soviet Union in May 1944 which expelled her rivals (especially J. Hernandez) for the position and she began acting as Secretary General. There is no evidence that she was elected to the position and there was no group that the had the authority to elect her present in Moscow. see "The Communist Party in Spain" by Víctor Alba (1983).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.193.104.112 (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secretary General of the PCE 

message: This entire article is fucking FILLED with one-sided weasel words and other hyperbolic bullshit. Oh, who cares? WP is the same. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:4461:8B3F:A186:3BE4 (talk) 14:32, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

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message: There are many introductory phrases like "In 1938 she did this." Some of them are delineated by commas, some are not. I would leave them all commaless, but in any case they ought to be consistent within the article. Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL>||иэvэ иэvэl3 21:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comma consistency 

message: Why does this article use the American date format (January 1)? Is it relevant to Spain/Russia? Or should it all be changed to the European format (1 January)?--Adûnâi (talk) 03:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The American date format 

message: THis is yet another article on Spanish history with very questionable sources.  Lots of sources, but not reliable, fact based historians and an attempt at a neutral point of view.    
As noted above, "Too long, too irrelevant, too much glorification of a rather unpleasant character", and half the article could be cut out.  
And yet much is missing too... very little on her exile and why she was so popular.   TGcoa (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Badly written article, very biased, much of it irrelevant