Talk:Vancouver/Archive 2

message: Please add any appropriate music venues to the category.  I noticed that some of the more popular clubs in the city like the Commodore and Orpheum Theatre have no articles of their own.. --Madchester 07:57, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
:Then make them. ·Zhatt· 17:10, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
I'm not from Vancouver... it's best for ppl familiar with local music scene to make those articles. :-) --Madchester 19:24, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Articles of their own: they should; there's already a picture of the Smiling Buddha on the Chinese Canadian Cuisine page, and it should be in a "closed" or "changed" category (e.g. Celebrities=The Retinal Circus; Isy's=Metro, the Cave d.196x and so on.Skookum1 16:11, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki>[[Category:Music venues in Canada]]</nowiki>

message: I've read a few articles here and there talking about how Vancouver faces the high possibility of a subduction quake. I was just wondering if there is call to put it under the misc section? They also discuss how Vancouver from a structural and technical standpoint has not been well prepared in the event of this kind of emergency. --64.231.213.66 17:08, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Earthquake risk

message: It has been observed above that the stats on ethnic groups do not match the census.  Moreover, the statistics given are for Greater Vancouver, not the City of Vancouver.  An overhaul is needed. Sunray 14:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnic groups

message: A person from Toronto is a Torontonian, a person from Calgary is a Calgarian.  What is a resident of Vancouver called?  Vancouverite?  Vancouveronian?
Perhaps this should be mentioned in the article if someone knows the definitive answer
* Pretty sure we're called Vancouverites but I haven't seen any definite proof such as a government publication or alike. - Luckyluke Oct 22, 2005
Most residents of the communities in the BC Lower Mainland are -ites Vancouverites, Burnabyites, Surreyites, etc. I can only think of one exception, and there may be others - Deltans for Delta residents. Wikipedia itself references Vancouverites -  Zedcaster 18:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resident name 

message: When I went and googled Vancouver City Charter and found this interesting chronology:
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/ctyclerk/election_systems/chapter1.html
but there's nothing to go with 1936.  The current City Charter dates from 1952; I'd thought it was a city before that but ??  Or the 1952 charter replaces an older one, but if so it would be 1885 or 1886 (can't remember which; 1886 I think).  Found this other account:
::Administrative history:
::The Law Department originated 9 Aug. 1886 when a part-time City Solicitor was appointed to handle the City's legal affairs (drafting City by-laws, drafting charter amendments, interpreting legislation, representing the City in court actions, and giving legal advice to City Council). On 18 July 1910 the first full-time City Solicitor (and counsel for the City) was appointed, and authorized to hire several support staff. Despite numerous configurations of position titles over the years, the functions of the City Solicitor's Office (1886-1936) and the Law Office or Law Department (1937-1995, designations alternated during the earlier years) have remained remarkably consistent. These were/are:
::   1. By-law writing
::   2. City internal legal advisory
::   3. City of Vancouver counsel
::   4. Provincial legislation interpretation
::   5. Vancouver Charter writing 
so "drafting charter amendments" indicates there already was a charter in 1886.
I'm wondering if maybe what you're thinking was when he dropped through town as a prince - ?? a few of them did, can't remember if he was one of them, and I wouldn't know if there was a changed version of the chapter readopted between 1885/6 and 1952; could be.  Edward VII was around when he was the Duke of Cornwall and York, and his brother the Duke of Clarence, early in the '00 decade; and another prince came through 1912-13; can't remember who (that might have been Clarence; not taking the time to pull the book out and look...).  I know the later Duke of Windsor had a ranch in Alberta where he quietly hid out at times; or was it before?  But I've never heard much about him having been in BC, except maybe to get off the train, go catch a drink and hop the boat for the Orient.  Wish I'd been a fly on the wall in 1902 when the later Edward VII was partying away upstairs at the Bodega gentleman's club on Carrall with the ship captains, stockbrokers and mill owners of the club (such society as there was, you see)....billiards, brandy/whisky, cigars, cards, ladies, who knows what else going on; the Bodega was one of those places with a hidden carriage-lane out back for quick getaways if the wife showed up looking for you....Skookum1 06:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vancouver Civic History reply

message: Sam Sullivan isn't the Mayor Yet! The link isn't even to his own page.
* Update: Sam Sullivan is currently Mayor of Vancouver. PeregrineAY 01:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sam Sullivan 

message: I've never heard the latter, only the former.Skookum1 21:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the People's Republic of East Vancouver, Skookum. Corvus 04:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Right you are, as Yoda would say.  Forgot the Marxist-Leninist bit; I've heard it in the contracted form, too - which maybe has more of a connotation with the other angle on "East Van" (see my list on BCism on the talk page of Canadian English.Skookum1 18:09, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republic of East Van vs Republic of Vancouver 

message: Added these two the nicknames list and corrected sp. of Hongcouver, which is always spelled that way when it does appear.  The Big Smoke is now used by Toronto, but it was Vancouver's nickname from the railway era or before; same thing with coopting Hollywood North to mean all of Canada's film/TV industry (i.e. Toronto's) instead of just Vancouver's, which was the original meaning.Skookum1 21:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Big Smoke/Left Coast

message: Here's what I cut out, which was new as of today: "(used strictly outside of 'Van')".  Since when?  Sure, there's a tendency for people in the Valley 'burbs to use this term, but it's not as if people inside the city don't use it in various ways.  Whatever gave you the idea that it was "used strictly outside of 'Van'"? (speaking as a native Vancouverite)Skookum1 00:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll second this. Though it should be mentioned, and I'm sure you'd agree Skookum1, that most native Vancouverites call the city in general "Vancouver," with the term "Van" usually preceded by "East" when referring to that half of the city, and any other nickname rare or limited to usage by recent or transitory residents. --Clapaucius 08:06, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Heh heh... I was only raised here. I do have a friend that is probably among the rarest of the rare, though - born and raised in the West End. I think he's actually the only one... --Clapaucius 07:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed comment about "Van" nickname

message: Why is the Vancouver Flag not showing?Elvarg 01:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was deleted due to copyright concerns.  Denelson83  02:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't the flag be covered by the same "symbol" license as the coat of arms? Was there a specific concern brought up over the use of the flag by the Corporation of the City of Vancouver? Or did someone just not tag it right? Just curious, as if the latter is the only of my ruminations to hold truth, I would surely upload the image again, from the city symbol website. --Clapaucius 08:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vancouver flag? 

message: Little Hollywood showed up today; I'm in the industry and have never heard that, nor in any local rag or coffeeshop rumble; noticed "the Beach" next to it; never heard that either, unless it's a Torontoism (a termed used by transplants from the Bigger Smoke aka Hogtown).  Heard nearly all the others, although some refer to specific parts of the city, but these two I haven't heard in 33 years of living here. Skookum1 23:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Little Hollywood" and "The Beach" - Never heard of 'em 

message: I think there's speficic cite for this coinage, and I think the coiner was Allan Fotheringham; either him or cartoonist Len Norris.  The reference in full is "Land of the Lotus-Eaters" (from Homer's Odyssey) and wasn't meant in reference to the "laid back" atmosphere (hah! - this city hasn't been laid back in years!) but the eccentric and sometimes utterly mad goings on in British Columbia politicis and high society; specifically Lower Mainland-Greater Victoria high society/politics (the Interior and North Coast was apparently exempt).  The deeper irony or dark serendipity here is that the Lotus in question was the black lotus of Libya - the opiate of that region, equivalent to the white poppy, which is of course one of this city's "most important historical trade goods", so to speak.  Yeah, so anyway; the Lotus Land thing is more about people living in medicated otherworld, or as if they were in one, or should be in one; and the way nobody returns phone calls here, like they're on drugs and forget anything that's not immediately in front of them.  "Lotus Land" is part of the "wacky BC" stereotype fostered and developed by the national media, also, IMO, in order to rationalize British Columbia to the more rational parts of the country.....Los Angeles, by the way, had the original version of this which Foth or Norris parodied- "La La Land".Skookum1 08:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, my fault for making an assumption there (that was more my previous understanding of it rather than a researched go).  Maybe a seperate sentence along the lines that you've outlined here would be in order? GiantSloth 20:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of Lotusland