Talk:Krugerrand

message: In the new novel by Cormac McCarthey, the road, a bag full of Krugerrands are found in a bomb shelter by the main characters. I was wondering if the use of bullion as currency in the event of an apocalypse is popular, and therefore be included in this article, or if it was just some artistic license.
:My impression is that this is the main reason why people buy gold. My great uncle Gustav S. survived two apocalypses, the German hyperinflation of 1923, and 12 years as an inmate at Dachau (concentration camp outside of Munich). The point is, "apocalypse" doesn't have to mean the end of the planet, humanity, or civilization. If the dollar's inflation rate because similar to that which Argentina experienced at various times in the 20th century (e.g., 50%) that would be apocalyptic enough that more people would wish they owned gold. Zyxwv99 (talk) 01:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The Road

message: Umm, what?!  As far as I can find out, its only illegal to import, since the SA Reserve Bank is the monopoly supplier. () --Dewet 13:22, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, I've removed that part, since I couldn't find any supporting evidence. Dewet 11:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal to own in South Africa 

message: Has any thought been given to including the donation of Krugerands to Salvation Army kettles along the Colorado Front Range in at least the past four holiday seasons? I'm not into numismatics much, but I think it is worthy of inclusion.
BabuBhatt 05:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Colorado Front range donations

message: The Krugerrand coins (including the fractionals) are very attractive coins, given the fact that the reverse depicts Coert Steynburg's  pronking springbok design, which first appeared on the 1947 Royal Visit 5/- coin. I have got 2 1/10 Krugerrand coins in my collection - 1984 & 1990. - (Aidan Work 06:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Krugerrand an attractive coin?

message: As was just stated the face value is in Oz. fine gold, not in Rands or any other currency. Am changing this. 
Additionaly, while upon it's initial introduction it may not have been intended to be commonly traded for goods and services it is my understanding that this is done not infrequently in places where the value of local currency is unstable. The fact that its face value is based purely on value of gold content and not a particular currency lends itself very well to this purpose. Also, the fact that there are 4 denominations further leads me to believe this to be true. I am basing this on comments by my commodities broker that workers prefer to be paid in Krugerrands in some industries in S.A. Need firsthand knowledge or documentation to confirm.
:Yes, you would need a citation for that dubious claim by your broker.  Tempshill 18:50, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wondering where it is that workers even get a preference as to how they will be paid.--23.119.204.117 (talk) 19:13, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Face value, use as currency. 

message: Most the this article was copied from here.  I have stubified the article; it needs to be completely rewritten. External links in the article can be used as source, but they cannot be copied. Jon513 (talk) 22:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you feel the article was copied from there?  It would appear to have been constructed organically, looking at the history (for example).  Is there a reason you feel they did not copy from here? Kuru talk 23:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The first edit (almost exactly a year ago) to the page was a cut and paste from the site posted above.  Despite a moderate amount of edits the page remained largely intact.  I think that the best thing to do is to start over. Jon513 (talk) 23:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be some confusion - the edit you just linked to was a few minor changes to existing text from 12-29-06.  The article has existed quite a bit longer than that.  Did you look at the edit I linked to above? Kuru talk 23:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking in to this more, it seems the page at 'allgoldcoins' was last modified on August 9th.  It includes this addition from July 26th, but not this spelling correction from August 27th.  I'm thinking you should restore the article, and send a note to 'allgoldcoins' asking them live up to our GFDL. What am I missing here? Kuru talk 23:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: (edit conflict - we agree) On closer examination, I think you are right; they copied us. It appears to be a copy of the November 2 version of the page, right before the link to http://allgoldcoins.co.uk/allgold/shop_files/other/Krugerrands.htm  was added. I have restored the article, and I apologize. Jon513 (talk) 23:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Absolutely not a problem - these kinds of puzzles are interesting to shake about. :) Kuru talk 23:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to send them a letter reading Wikipedia:Standard GFDL violation letter can help.  Jon513 (talk) 23:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Major copyright violation

message: *Rand Refinery & Mint Krugerrand page
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After Diameter & Thickness I added 1 so reader will know what it means. but I dont like the way it look, I hope someone have a better idea, Thank you.
:Done.  And I'm removing your links above; several clutter up disambiguation pages "what links here", and have been directed appropriately in the text.  Gene Nygaard (talk) 02:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Could you point at specific sentences or facts that you think are incorrect? And could you tag them by adding  right after the sentence? This indicates to other users that the sentence needs a citation backing it.
As Corvus says, it's not good to remove wholesale everything that doesn't have a citation hanging right after it. When removing stuff, you have to try to make an editorial judgement and take into account if the removal is improving the encyclopedia, or if it's better to just tag it in case that the text happens to be correct, and someone finds a source for it. --Enric Naval (talk) 19:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  unsourced sections 

message: It seems that they actually exist. See the warnings on the internets about buying one of these fake things instead of an authentic krugerrand:
* "Beware Krugerrand Imitations in Silver or Miniature
There are now many items offered on eBay as "Krugerrands" which are NOT Krugerrands"
*"There is no such thing as a silver Krugerrand. Silver Krugerrands do not exist.(...)Some dealers offering "silver Krugerrands" on eBay are actually fairly honest, in that they do describe their offerings as "silver rounds / bars", (...) Even then, they hardly ever spell out in a completely idiot-proof manner that the "coins" are not official, have no legal tender value, are not produced or sanctioned by the South Africa Mint or Government, not Krugerrands, and not even coins. (...) You would have to be pretty stupid to believe that it was an official coin, a Krugerrand, or even from South Africa"
So they should have a section, if only so that article explains how krugerrands are falsified for selling to collectors. Let's see if someone can find a reliable source, and then erroneus facts can be sorted out from the correct facts. --Enric Naval (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cointalk.org has some information on silver coins, referred to as silver krugerrands. --NewbyG (talk) 06:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The source currently on the article is not a newspaper article, but an advert (see the format and the subtitle, which are clearly for an advert trying to look like an article) for a mint called "Philadelphia International Monetary Mint" for which I can't find any reference. The FTC warns "Make sure the bullion coins you purchase are not imitation medals created by fraudulent "mints."", which I am sure is the case with this mint. I'm gonna remove that and write a section. --Enric Naval (talk) 22:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: silver krugerrands

message: Do we need to link every currency-to-gold convertor? Wikipedia is not a repository of links. Looking at WP:EL, this sort of website is not listed at Links normally to be avoided, but it's not listed either ot What should be linked or Links to be considered. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia article, not a guide on how to trade Krugerrands, currency converters are not meaningful content that can add to the encyclopedic value of the article. Links I removed:
*Current price of Gold Ounces (XAU) in U.S. Dollars (USD)	 
*British Pounds (GBP)	 
*South African Rand (ZAR)
To make myself clear: it would be a better to put a link detailing the historical price of the ounce of gold throught history, and the greatest changes to the price, and why they happened. --Enric Naval (talk) 23:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  non-encyclopedic external links 

message: South African coins very similar to Krugerrands exist. For instance, the 1/4-oz coin has a face value of 2 R, the 1/8-oz coin 1 R. Shouldn't those be mentioned? --92.75.194.36 (talk) 17:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have expanded the article Coins of the South African rand to include these gold bullion coins. In some respects, they are similar to the Krugerrands, for example they have the same fineness (22 karat) and also feature the springbok design. Concerning their specifications, they are however more similar to the British sovereign. The fine gold content of the 1 R coin is not 1/8 oz or 1/10 oz, but 0.1177 oz. The 2 R coin contains 0.2354 oz of fine gold, not 1/4 oz.--Alban (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold Rands 

message: it has no numeric currency value in the currency of the country. nutura series are gold coins. There should be an article about nutura series.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.232.132.131 (talk) 03:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  krugerrand not a coin.  

message: It's a bit confusing. The official website says "the first coin was struck on the 3 July 1967", but the official PDF brochure says "Launched in 1970". What does this mean? Could it be that the first strikings were internal tests, and the public only was able to buy Krugerrands three years later? --BjKa (talk) 09:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  first minted in 1967 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: How come it's pronounced [ˈkrœjərˌrant] if Kruger is pronounced [ˈkrœχər], not [ˈkrœjər]? 89.64.26.80 (talk) 00:11, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I have plenty of them l really need help to exchange them 41.13.70.73 (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where are they exchanged 

message: I added the sentence about Krugerrands having been melted down in Hungary in the 1980s. The source is the foreman of the precious metals metallurgy, Mr. Istvan Polgar, who was my father. He spoke of several kilograms of Krugerrands that arrived to the workshop, and he worked with them with a few select coworkers in utmost secrecy. He also told that once a UN delegation arrived to the state mint, and some manager, who was apparently not aware of the secret operation, attempted to guide them through the workshop. Someone quickly tossed a tarpaulin on the box with the Krugerrands, so the secrecy wasn't blown. Sadly, he only ever told this to me orally, and he passed away in 2016. To this day I'm not aware of any official confirmation of the operation. 80.99.120.76 (talk) 23:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circumventing sanctions in the 1980s