Talk:Harmonica

message: I don't know a lot about the harmonica, but why is there no mention of the different "bands" of harmonicas - i.e. Marine band, blues band etc. ????? Someone should include this information somewhere.
User:Soco_79  —Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Never gonna give u up 2600:8805:4312:8700:F152:698F:B9F:1909 (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Harmonica Bands

message: Removed incorrect and offensive word "Nigger". Richard Salwitz is simply Magic Dick
86.5.9.130 (talk) 19:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: edit

message: I've removed the untrue statement that the diatonic was invented by Natalie Ann Cummins. see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harmonica&diff=prev&oldid=177571478
Evidence that this is vandalism comes from this article, edited the same day by the same user - scroll down to "Associate Student Body"
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foothill_High_School_(Santa_Ana,_California)&oldid=177571089
82.153.136.60 (talk) 12:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: edited Diatonic Harmonicas

message: The part about Harmonica in Mainland China (and Hongkong?!) is badly written, suggest extensive editing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.74.21.134 (talk) 13:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing

message: "In the 1970s, Howard Levy developed the "overbending" technique (also known as "overblowing" and "overdrawing".) Overbending, combined with bending, allowed players to play the entire chromatic scale."
This statement might be reconsidered in light of the signature harp style of Jimmy Reed who used overblows extensively throughout his career.  Sonny Terry used this technique as well.  Both of these individuals recorded this technique earlier than the 1970's. 
The use of blow and draw bends additionally enables the player to find the correct pitch temperament for any individual note played within the available scales of the major pitch of the instrument.  Bending generally allows a player to get the correct frequency to harmonize with other instruments which are nearly always out of tune to some extent.  When using multiple harp positions extensively as in blues and country, one may have to bend a note one way or another to correct the interval for the key of the musical passage. Fiddle players do this a lot.Oskarmartin (talk) 19:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: overblowing or blowbends

message: I'm new here, so I don't know the norms for this discussion group.  Forgive me if I transgress.  Is it appropriate to place an ad for a commercial product as information on a topic?  I think not.  The reference under "Toy Harmonica" is a link to a site where you can buy harmonica instructional materials.  I'm not opposed to the seller and his/her product, but think this information would be better placed on a page of vendors. There is no actual information about "Toy harmonica".  As a harmonica collector I would be happy to prepare a few paragraphs on toy harmonicas.  Larry Boy Pratt 8/12/04
: If a link goes to an ad, I think it should at the very least be labelled as such and relegated to a "Related Sites" section. If you know something about toy harmonicas, please do prepare a few paragraphs and add them! And a final note -- you can sign your comments by adding four squiggle marks to the end of your entry, like this --~~~~, which will create a signature like this: --Tom 02:32, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Harmonica 

message: I think a new page should be created for the list of harmonica players, as it isn't pertinent to the article itself. --Iusenospace 17:28, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  moving list of players to another page 

message: This article is lacking external links. 84.50.163.137 21:48, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, The Wikipedia external links policy says you can put external links, but they have to be high quality sites with " further research that is accurate and on-topic...or other meaningful, relevant content." It says "Links normally to be avoided" include "Links mainly intended to promote a website...and ....Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to sites with objectionable amounts of advertising." See WP:EL for more info. I have recently removed some of the unacceptable links, which are information that is on an online store's advertising webpage. These websites exist primarily to sell goods or services, so they can't be put in the external links. Thanks.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 19:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: "The bass harmonica is a special harmonica mostly used in ensemble playing. It usually consists of two harmonicas held together, one above the other, by an adjustable bracket. the lower harmonica has the natural notes of the chromatic scale, while the upper harmonica has the accidental notes. The bass harmonica has only blow notes."
Obviously, this instrument requires circular beathing to be played properly.144.139.87.31
The comment about circular breathing is simply untrue. The bass harmonica is not used to play long sustained tones, and its structure, which requires leaping large distances from note to note, does not allow for sustained unbroken note sequences, either. Players typically inhale between notes.Winslowyerxa (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bassharp 

message: Here is a standard diatonic in the key of G:
       1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10
       -----------------------------
 blow: |G |B |D |G |B |D |G |B |D |G |
 draw: |A |D |F |A |C |E |F |A |C |E |
       -----------------------------
Each hole is the same interval (here, a major sixth) from its key of C counterpart; on the diatonic scale, a  G is a major sixth from C. The interval between keys can be used to find the note layout of any standard diatonic.
G is NOT a major sixth from C. If it a fifth: c-d-e-f-g = 1-2-3-4-5. However, a G harmonica is pitched *below* a C harmoncia, not above, so you would count downward; C-B-A-G =  1-2-3-4. A G harmonica is pitched a perfect fourth below a C harmonica Winslowyerxa (talk) 19:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested addition (in bold) 

message: I am wondering: Is it a good idea to write down a seperate article for Harmonica techniques?George Leung 10:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, as long as it is not a how to, and gives significant information about the techniques. Basically I am trying to say that it should be written in the same style as this article. I wonder if it would be possible to use wikibooks for hosting an entry on how to play the harmonica? Graham/pianoman87 talk 11:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A dedicate section for Playing harmonica? 

message: I remember that there are quite a few articles being complained of not presenting a world view. Since I can read Chinese, I can translate some information regarding to China Mainland and Taiwan's harmonica history. What are the essential information? George Leung 05:10, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  World View 

message: While I was adding a section on the alternate tunings for both bebop tuning and classical tuning, I was wondering: is there any purpose for the redundant C?
Here's what I am thinking:
*It does not serve much for octaves, since players have to learn to play on five holes (blocking the middle 3 holes) uino rder to play octaves on other notes.
*It has no help on chord construction whatsoever.
The only purpose I see it the redundant C exist is due to the legacy from the diatonic, which will make it not redundent in that case. But I would definitely say, a classical tuning or bebop tuning have much more sense then the current tuning we are having right now. George Leung 04:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you will probably get more answers to this sort of question on one of the harmonica email lists or for like harp-l or harpon, harp-l is the oldest and its website is http://harp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/harp-l harpon is more restricted and dedicated to talking about technique and construction, it's website is http://www.angelfire.com/music/HarpOn/ .  The double Cs are redundant, but like the black/white piano layout solo tuning remains the standard for many reasons.  Hope this helps24.147.122.211 23:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bebop tuning: Much better than solo tune? 

message: I am starting an article on Harmonica, specifically focus on playing. So do you guys see anything that should be moved over to wikibook? Also, if you guys see any good techniques, or any bad writings, tell me. George Leung 06:24, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikibook Article 

message: I am brand new to the world of harmonica playing and upkeep. This doesn't have to be included in the article but some readers (myself included) would perhaps enjoy a few pointers in the care of harmonica and how to keep it playing good. --67.171.116.106 07:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harmonica care. 

message: I recently discovered Pee-wee Herman's name was inspired, in part, by a Pee-wee brand harmonica. There are plenty of Google images, but I was hoping a Harmonica officianado that owned one could upload an image with a verifiable copyright.   I'd love to link the Pee-wee article to the same image once uploaded. Even better; have the Pee-wee harmonica image added to this article and link the Herman reference of the harmonica to this article. Any takers?--Fracture98 03:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken what i consider an unusual liberty, namely guessing what formatting would satisfy the contributor of what turns out to be the above single-edit contribution.  It had a more than usually confusing format which -- in spite of bearing a correctly signed contrib -- nevertheless surely reflected at least one colleague's unfamiliarity with our talk pages: ruling out the possibility that it comprised an unsigned contrib, followed by a separate user's signed contrib, required consultation of the edit history. I've added formatting that i think will make the actual intent clear to all -- with the single exception that they might have chosen to combine what i left looking like two paragraphs, into one, had they the confidence that goes with experience in formatting talk.--Jerzy•t 04:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

text: In fact, here's a lead toward the needed ref to support the text implicit in Frac's suggestion: Tim Burton: The iconic filmmaker and his work is a chapter in what appears, per this search's only hit, a limited passage what looks like Ian Nathan's  chapter  of a book (that also has something to do with Eminem), or article on PWH, on pp. 253-259 of some volume of a periodical. (Quarto?)--Jerzy•t 07:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure that there's sufficient coverage in reliable sources for inclusion of anything in this article. Would support, if sourced, something in the PWH article. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 09:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pee-Wee Herman Request 

message: It appears that a disagreement exists over whether Mouth harp refers to a harmonica or a Jew's harp. I have changed it from a redirect to a disambiguation page but, since I have only heard it used in reference to a Jew's harp, I wonder if there is any documentation of these usages? Cmadler 12:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen and heard "mouth harp." Sometimes it is just "harp," meaning harmonica. Hohner has been making the Blues Harp for an awfully long time now. __ Just plain Bill (talk) 02:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

text: American Heritage Dictionary, Dictionary.com (Random House Dictionary), and Merriam-Webster Collegiate all define "mouth harp" as a harmonica. Rivertorch (talk) 05:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate names 

message: It is quite long. Maybe it should be split into more articles?! BiblbroksTalk2me 17:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of article 

message: Well, since accordions have serveral small pages for their types, I proposed we also seperate them.
Here's my divisions planned:
*Harmonica (this page)
**Construction
**History
**related instruments
**Techniques only do in briefly, as there exist harmonica wikibooks already.
**Everything else already on this page and wasn't mentioned
*Diatonic Harmonica
** Merge with blues harps
** include blues harp related techniques
**alternate tunings
*Chromatic Harmonica (include orchestral harmonica)
*Tremelo harmonica (and octave harmonica)
I plan to do this starting thursday (or whenever I have time). RSVP by Oct 25 00:00.
I dont think it is a very good idea to spilt the Article in this way.
May be it is better to wite a complete book on wiki boos, as it is allready stated.
On the german wiki page ther is now a very good pager on special customiced harmonikas.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderstimmung_%28Mundharmonika%29
--Jpascher 08:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperation into articles 

message: I think the electric harmonica should be mentioned somewhere in this article. I was going to do so myself, but I wasn't sure what exactly what to write. Here's a link to one website I found with news of the electric harmonica.
Cheers! Youre dreaming eh? (talk) 19:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electric Harp 

message: Harmonica is sometimes used in tango music, most famously by Hugo Diaz. Although I dont know enough about it to create a new section, I think it is significant and important enough to be included in this article if anyone is an expert on the subject or is willing to do the research.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cstrife90 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tango Music 

message: "While the Richter-tuned 10-hole chromatic is intended to be played in only one key" This is the first usage of the term "richter-tuned" in the article, and beyond a wikilink, it is not introduced.  Looking at the Richter tuning article, It seems as though richter-tuned harmonicas and chromatic harmonicas are mutually exclusive.  This is made more confusing because no specific model is given for the 10-hole chromatic in question, and the Chromatic harmonica article does not appear to make mention of it.
I've never owned a chromatic harmonica, only diatonics, so I don't wish to make any presumptions.  Could someone explain this and/or fix the wording in the article to make it friendlier to readers unaccustomed to the topic? -Verdatum (talk) 15:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richter-tuned chromatic - Confusing 

message: I kind of put some refferences to its stereotypical role in movies. Is this OK? 78.147.150.153 (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything in Wikipedia must be verifiable and not just opinion, allegation, or based on your perception. Reliable sources of such edits (allegations/opinions etc.) should also be cited. Your addition seems more opinion to me so your edit was reverted. It was also not referenced/cited. Please see wp:RS and wp:OR for more information.  BC  talk to me 17:33, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made an edit 

message: I suggest that Harmonica (electric), if sourced, be moved here.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. If sourced and de-weaseled. (I poked around a bit, looking for secondary sources, and found precious few.) Rivertorch (talk) 07:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Even in the history there doesn't really be anything worth merging, especially anything (that I could see) that is supported by reliable sources.  Seems like it'd be a redirect and a sentence (if that) added to this article, or is there something in the history worth salvaging that I'm overlooking? - SudoGhost 07:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That works for me.  I was looking at it as a possible AfD target, but it is verifiable -- though, as River points out, there is little to it.  A redirect as indicated would be fine w/me.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

text: (ec) One possible source: 1 and 2—not a site I'm familiar with, but it claims editorial oversight of a sort. Rivertorch (talk) 07:53, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That does seem to verify that it does indeed exist, but I'm not convinced that gives enough weight to include it in an article.  The wording on the link is "All news on this site is individually edited before publication." I read "individually edited" as "We didn't write this, we just proofread what was sent to us".  Maybe that just me though. - SudoGhost 08:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not just you; I said "of a sort" because I found the wording ambiguous. I'm concerned about sourcing the claim of who invented it. If that claim goes out the window, what's left either to merge into Harmonica or leave as a standalone article? Something along the lines of "Electric harmonicas exist"? I don't know. Rivertorch (talk) 08:42, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The stand-alone is a mess.  The worst case, to my mind, would be that surviving as a stand-alone.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Then maybe the best thing to do is just make it a redirect to this, and if sources can be found, add them as needed? - SudoGhost 09:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. I guess that would work. It sort of bothers me, though: unless we say something about electric harmonicas in this article, people will arrive via the redirect and find nothing about what they were looking for. I'm unfamiliar with music-related WikiProjects and wonder if a note there somewhere might help. Someone has to know something about electric harmonicas (and maybe even has a handy print reference). Rivertorch (talk) 18:23, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that we should be saying something about electric harmonicas in this article, if we are to have a redirect.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge suggestion 

message: I think the new 30 reed chromatic harp (built since Oct. 2012) should be added as an extra building type as it allows all the chromatic notes in 3 octaves by normal bending technique without any mechanics:
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/sub30/english/index.html
What do you think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.156.60 (talk) 20:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Re-engineered Hohner XB-40, with 30 reeds rather than 40? htom (talk) 21:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add new 30 reed chromatic harp type? 

message: Bends harmonica is no longer in business (I was on their mailing list).  Bushman is an American company, but it seems they contract out their production to two other companies.  Some of their harps are made by Suzuki and others by Seydel.  I'm a moderator on a harp forum and there have been some issues with the brand (delivery problems) that I've gotten sucked into a couple times (against my will) so I'm not a neutral party for editing purposes.  I'll recuse myself from editing that info but someone should be able to confirm the manufacturing information independently.Nacoran (talk) 19:06, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update brands 

message: There is a pretty good cottage industry in harp customization.  You can get combs made out of exotic woods, acrylic, corian and metal, covers made out of polycarbonate or powder coated as well as all sorts of fine adjustments to the reeds from gapping to tuning to replacing busted reeds.  There is even a harmonica that has built in LEDs and another with built in pickups.  There is a harmonica like device that is designed to by a computer controller (both for use as a synthesizer and as a handicapped accessible controller.)  While there shouldn't be mention of individual customizers maybe there is enough to warrant a little blurb?  Also, I don't know if this would fall under instructions and therefore not be appropriate, but a lot of harp players I know use sonic cleaners on their non-wooden combed harps to degunk them.Nacoran (talk) 19:06, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Customizers 

message: It is likely that independent notability may not be able to be established for this variant of the instrument, but it would be a shame to lose the information in this stub article. Fiddle Faddle 10:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Glass diatonic harmonica]] 

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message: I came to find out basic information about harmonicas, such as how one is played.  I didn't even know that each hole produces two different notes, depending on which way the air is going, and this article doesn't seem to explain that.  I found some useful guidance at Harmonica Club; perhaps some information similar to what is presented there could be incorporated into the article. 209.179.88.218 (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: I just ordered my harmonica not that long ago
What section is the harmonica in?
If you don't know what I mean by section,I mean like brass,woodwind,string,etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.188.66.194 (talk) 00:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: nevermind i found out 47.188.155.186 (talk) 00:44, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question