Talk:Business speak

message: These examples are pretty weak (so I removed them):
::*As discussed — a phrase by which the speaker reminds one that a conversation has taken place and no updates are needed, as in "The reports have been running and should be ready later today as discussed."
::*Makes sense - an idea or plan that is perceived as a very good, well thought out concept. Used in cases where the commenting party desires to understate enthusiasm, usually in a competitive or bargaining situation.
::*Next Steps — a phrase meaning what is left, or what else is necessary to achieve a goal, i.e.: "Now that we've defined the problem, what are the next steps in getting it resolved?"
::*Via — By way of, or by means of.  This word is ubiquitous in corporate America.  In business-speak, one does not fax Joe the report.  One sends Joe the report via fax.  ''
Some of these are just common English phrases and the examples given seem to be the proper use of the phrases (i.e., not business speak). Plus, they were out of alphabetical order. Ufwuct 23:24, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dude, weak!

message: If anyone can find sources for these and cares to write them into the article, here are some I've come across:
"Parking Lot", "Evergreen", "Punch List", "organizationalization" (I kid you not!). Ufwuct 23:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible others

message: The list of buzzwords article seems to overlap with this article, and has better citations.  Maybe this article should be merged into that one?  CosineKitty (talk) 21:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree regarding the examples, as it is essentially the same thing as the list of buzzwords.  However, I do think that the description for 'business speak' should remain on this page, followed by a link to the list of buzzwords article RWV564 (talk) 01:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: This section, while funny, was mostly uncited and controversial original research, along with some quotes removed from context. I have moved it from the article page to the talk page (below). If anyone wants to restore this, please do so in observation of Wikipedia rules on Citing Sources and Style. Vectro (talk) 19:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations section 

message: Moved from the body of the article. As badly constructed as the article may be, conversation and commenting does not belong in it.
====Drill-down====
[This one comes from the world of computer software.  Computer programs or applications which make use of complex hierarchical menus and submenus, all to be navigated by mouse, gave rise to the popularity of this term. To "drill down" is to navigate ever deeper into nested submenus in order to find a specific feature or option.  The use of the term in business speak naturally follows from this sense.]
====Per====
[This is completely wrong.  "Per" has never been an abbreviation.  "Miles per hour" is not an abbreviation of "Miles pertaining to hour."  "Per" is simply a short Latin word which means "through, by, by means of, corresponding to, or according to."  Like "versus," "interim," "via," "et cetera" and hundreds of others, this Latin term was borrowed by English speakers, and became part of the language.  In older printed English texts, it was italicized, as were all loan-words from Latin or other languages.  "Per" the Merriam-Webster dictionary, it has been in common English use for over 600 years!]
====Vertical====
[Again, this entry is a bit off the mark.  To say that "vertical" is a term which "adds no meaning to 'industry'" is not quite right.  Although this term in business speak is probably overused, it does signify that a given market is narrowly specialized, and typically features reduced competition based on price as opposed to features.  A vertical market for a product or service is one in which a generic solution is unlikely to be satisfactory, and so a successful sale will depend primarily on the provider's ability to address the highly specific requirements of a relatively small number of potential clients.  A vertical market is what used to be called a niche market.]
TGBX (talk) 04:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: In-line comments

message: [Again, this entry is a bit off the mark.  To say that "vertical" is a term which "adds no meaning to 'industry'" is not quite right.  Although this term in business speak is probably overused, it does signify that a given market is narrowly specialized, and typically features reduced competition based on price as opposed to features.  A vertical market for a product or service is one in which a generic solution is unlikely to be satisfactory, and so a successful sale will depend primarily on the provider's ability to address the highly specific requirements of a relatively small number of potential clients.  A vertical market is what used to be called a niche market.]
TGBX (talk) 04:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Vertical

message: "High Level" = The details of an elongated explaination. Example..."Give me a high level explaination of the status"
If no one objcts, i'll add it  Cosand (talk) 14:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: I nominate "High Level"

message: Many (most?) of the internal links on this page appear to link to pages that treat, not the biz-speak meaning of the terms as defined here, but other ideas named by the same word or phrase. Is there a reason for this, or is it just poor planning? Cnilep (talk) 01:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate links 

message: I think both articles focus on the same concept - the use of language in business / corporate context. I don't see any significant differences between what they try to cover. Thoughts? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the pages should be merged, but I think business speak should be the new title as it seems to be more the commonly used term. ~Asarlaí 19:03, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the merge as well.  According to Google's Ngram viewer, "management speak" is the most common, though I'm not sure how often this phrase occurs as a referent to this phenomenon (those are, after all, fairly common words that occasionally stand next to each other in sentences).  Corporate jargon is the strongest name that doesn't have this issue.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 23:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

text: I've tagged workplace jargon for a merge here.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 04:49, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Corporate jargon]]