Talk:Raider Nation

message: This a nice short article on the Raider Nation. It would interesting see a summary list of celebrity or famous people who happen to be Raider Fans. Such a list would have to include references proving each famous person added to the list is an actual Raiders Fan.
:Bandwagoners arn't a part of Raidernation!--Lamrock 21:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: List removed, please look at the scope of WP as an ecnyclopaedia, and look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists to see what might be relevant. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should a list of Celebrity Raider Fans Be Added? 

message: The paragraph- Inside the Raider Nation there are many sects of fans. One group of Raider fans are known as the "South Shield". Located at the entrance of the B and C lots. The tailgate consists of great food and drinks as well as the music of "Raiderhed". A live band who plays classic rock songs with a Raider twist. As great as the music is, the best part of the "South Shield" is the food created by resident chef "South Shield Travis". His ribs and brisket have won awards across the Bay Area., needs to be changed to npov or be removed completly, please fix. 69.148.158.112 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 04:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: I'd like to expand this page to include the Culture of Raider Nation, the Lore of the Raiders, and the information about the rivalries between the Raiders and other teams.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.25.132 (talk) 20:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for additions to this page 

message: I removed any explanations of events, but kept citations.  Each event has a citation from one of the following: internal link with Wikipedia, ESPN, Fox Sports, Boston Globe, NFL.com, Sports Illustrated, or official websites related to the players or teams.
I included a brief explanation of "Raider lore" that I paraphrased from NFL lore.
The list of nicknames and awards should not have been removed in the first place, because it was only a list of internal links to Wikipedia pages.  
This page is about Raider FANS.  As such, it will include content that will seem important only to fans, but the intent is for this page to explain what Raider fans discuss.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.25.132 (talk) 08:03, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the Oakland Raiders lore page and I implore you to seek a third opinion before re-adding the material again. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The page on NFL lore is limited in scope because the Lore is relative to the league as a whole.  Nevertheless, I decided to make additions of Lore to other pages as Sub-subsections, rather than dedicate an entire page to Lore.  I could have added Raider lore to the page for the Raiders.  The NFL lore page states that lore relates to topics discussed amongst FANS, thus by transference, it is relevant to include Raider lore on a page about Raider fans.67.169.25.132 (talk) 07:05, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I'm here from the 3O board.  I'd have to concur with Eagles247: the list of memorable plays does not belong in an article about Raiders fans; if you have indeed spread out these references to the articles to the individual articles of the directly-involved players, or the article on NFL lore, that would be a better (though still not necessarily appropriate) place for it.  That material is only tangentially related to the subject of the article, which is the Raiders fans themselves; if you disagree, I'd politely suggest you read this article before responding; it describes quite closely the material that you're trying to add.  Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 02:54, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-added list of Lore, nicknames and awards named after former Raiders 

message: I have removed the following list from the article, a celebrity induced list show have a validity to addition, and this would seem to fail that test. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed celebrity list