Talk:Odd Nerdrum

message: Why are these persons in see also section? feydey 00:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Laila carlsen was speedied for A7, so that at least can go. Darkspots 02:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Useful heading?

message: Material that needs rewriting: far too similar to apparent source, here. Tearlach 20:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft for rewrite

message: Per WP:BLP I am removing the following  unsourced content. I'll take a look tomorrow and see of I can find the source unless the editor who added this material  sources it. (olive (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: It looks as if this content is taken from an advertisement in ARTnews that contained Nerdrum's comments. That advertisement is not available online. I'll see of I can get the original magazine, but then we still have to deal with whether the ad itself can be considered a reliable source. I have two of Nerdrum's books and will check the newest one for information on painting technique.(olive (talk) 18:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source needed for painting technique 

message: The reference section on this article is a bit of a mess. I'm working on it slowly but surely. Help welcome.(olive (talk) 03:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: The Rembrandt paintings in the National Museum of Fine Arts, Stockholm, that inspired Nerdrum at age 18 are  The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis (see also here) and Simeon in the Temple. "Simon" in the newspaper article is a grotesque mistake for Simeon. (One would expext Nunc dimittis to be well known.) 
There is some confusion as to the English title of  the Simeon in Stockholm (see also here). The Swedish title used by Nationalmuseum is Simeon i templet, that is,  Simeon in the Temple. The Simeon in Stockholm should not be confused with Rembranth's two early paintings—sometimes also referred to as Simeon in the Temple—the Simeon in Hamburg from 1628 (see also here) and the Simeon in the Hauge from 1631 (see also here).
The Stockholm Simeon in the Temple is the painting that Nerdrum is seen watching in the photo in the article (turning his back on the camera, since he would have it no other way). This is Rembrandt's last painting, found unfinished on his easel after his death. (The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis is in the right hand corner of the photo.)
I have edited the material from the Dagbladet article. I have also edited the footnote, so that it links to the article and not to Google Translate. At a later stage, it would be good to replace or supplement this newspaper article (that even manages to confuse Simeon with Simon) with the original four-page article in Kunst, the art magazine on which the newspaper article is based. (See photo of the magazine's front cover in the article.)
Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 17:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited a little per the  Vine source and left out the Simeon In The Temple reference since neither Vine or Nerdrum's own site mentions the painting. The sourcing in the article is poor  and needs a lot of work, and we need more content. Its nice to have someone else working on this article. I'd started but there's a lot to be done.(olive (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rembrandt's [[The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis | ''The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis'']] and ''Simeon in the Temple'' in the [[Nationalmuseum| National Museum of Fine Arts]], Stockholm 

message: As I see it, Google Translate should not be relied on, nor linked to. If translations from Norwegian are needed, please just bring this up on this page or on my talk page, and I'll be glad to help, time allowing.
Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 18:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that online translators are not particularly accurate...But I'd like to check and make sure a translation by an editor is considered reliable. I think there are enough sources in English that we could stick with those for the most part on the English Wikipedia.(olive (talk) 21:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your generous offer to translate. I've asked for input here to make sure such translations would be considered reliable by the community before you go to the trouble of translating any of the sources.(olive (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Should have checked myself. WP:NOENG describes best practices for translation, and....  so pleased to have a translator available. (olive (talk) 18:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations 

message: http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/05/11/kultur/kunst/odd_nerdrum/11674491/
The article should probably mention the business relationsip between The Nerdrum Institute and Odd Nerdrum. 
(My understanding is that they currently hold the rights to sell his forthcoming paintings, to some degree.)--Hirzflag (talk) 09:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Business relationship with The Nerdrum Institute 

message: There is some unnecessary overlap here. No need to tell the story about the Rembrandt in Stockholm twice. Perhaps it would be good to have a new section on Early influences or the like.
Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 20:37, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlap between sections [[Odd Nerdrum#Artistic study|Artistic study]] and [[Odd Nerdrum#Early work 1964-1982|Early work 1964-1982]]  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I happen to know this content well enough to know that everything is from Reliable Sources. I'll add those sources in the next few days. I'm going to remove the tag so that some one doesn't come along and remove the content thinking it didn't come from RS which would make my job more difficult. To be honest I have no idea why I didn't notice that the  refs were not included and wonder if they were mistakenly removed at some time. Anyway, I'll fix this. I have the books and can add the refs.(Littleolive oil (talk) 01:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources and thanks for the tag 

message: I have the source for this but can't add tonight .... I'll add tomorrow.
*Parked content
	
Rembrandt and Caravaggio are primary influences on Nerdrum's work, while secondary influences include Masaccio, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Titian, and the less obvious influences, according to Vine and either mentioned by Nerdrum himself or other critics, that include Pieter Bruegel the Elder, Goya, Chardin, Millet, as well the even less apparent Henry Fuseli, Caspar David Friedrich, Ferdinand Hodler, Edvard Munch, Käthe Kollwitz, Salvador Dalí, Chaim Soutine and Lars Hertervig.
Littleolive oil (talk) 03:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parked here until source is added 

message: Europe is different from the US in a few respects. If you are born in the US you are American born. This is not so - and was not so in 1944 - in Sweden. If you were born in Sweden and your parents were Norwegian nationals, you were Norwegian born, not Swedish born. And .... the occupation of Norway by the Germans did not mean that Norwegian nationals no longer existed. --Saidmann (talk) 17:17, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Without fully following what you're saying above, have I sown confusion by writing "Swedish-born" where I should have written "Sweden-born"? -Lopifalko (talk) 18:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit summary was not meant to explain Nerdrum's birth place; it was a very short history of his birth. I've changed the article to reflect the concern. Littleolive oil (talk) 20:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nerdrum was never Swedish