Talk:Holy Cross dispute

message: "Holy Cross (Belfast))" shouldn't link here, the page redirects to itself!!!!!Undead Herle King (talk) 22:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Linking

message: Why the change from "Loyalists" to "unionists" in the third para of beginnings.  Gerry Lynch 23:54, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's POV-pushing. Lapsed Pacifist wants to tar moderate unionists with the same brush as the loyalist scumbags responsible for Holy Cross. He's done the same thing on many other pages too, changing "loyalist paramilitaries" to "unionist paramilitaries". Demiurge 08:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording

message: This article needs a Picture, does anyone have a photo of the area? Or perhaps a "heat of the moment" pic where the loyalists threw pipebombs on the street? Superdude99 15:44, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: This article is awful.
" Sadly they started protesting about this following a dispute and an alleged allegation that a parent kicked the wing mirror of a vehicle. Very upsetting and serious incidents of verbal abuse and violence occurred at the pickets, and there was widespread disorder throughout north Belfast for the duration of the dispute as a result of this dispute."
'Sadly'. 'Very upsetting'?
This is not a balanced article. It doesn't seem to coincide with the BBC (not known for being pro-Loyalist) says http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1518025.stm
The whole article needs rewriting: no more emotive words, and nothing without a good citation, as this article is an obvious target for POV-pushing by either Loyalist or Republican tendencies. I don't think the current length can be sustained as the detail can't be sourced, so it should probably shrink to little more than a 2-paragraph stub.
Nssdfdsfds 01:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, feel free to edit. I have started.  Dainamo 15:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In terms of describing the two communities, I think republican/loyalist only should be used rather than nationalist/unionist. Stu ’Bout ye! 16:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "Loyalist" and "Republican" have evolved to refer to the more militant wings of the uniionist and nationalist community respectively.  Hence when defining the communities in general it is far more NPOV to call them unionist and nationalist.  The use of the other terms must be done so with disctetion and refer to specific groups, individuals and actions Dainamo 15:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garbage 

message: There's very little mention of the enormous international coverage of this incident. I was in the States in 2001 and the story was widely covered by most if not all the news channels, and all the national newspapers. It was incredible. 79.97.154.238 (talk) 00:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: International coverage?

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