Talk:Eduard Limonov

message: Home, maybe you know Limonov only for his political activities, but I suspect that this is because you're interested in fringe politics and not in literature.  He's not just a poet;  he's also known for a number of novels and memoirs.  If you read this article, you'll discover that the literary community thinks of him as a talented Russian writer who unfortunately got involved in fringe politics.  I don't know where you're getting "artist" since as far as I know he's just a writer. Isomorphic 22:10, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, a google search revealed nothing to suggest that Limonov is affiliated with the International Third Position.  They share similar ideology, but it seems strange to give him a political affiliation he probably wouldn't give himself. Isomorphic 22:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Sure, he's an artist in the sense that any writer is an artist.  But if you say he's a writer and an artist it implies (at least to me) that he does something artistic besides writing.  I'm happy with the intro as it now stands.  Also, thanks for making it clear that he founded the National Bolsheviks. "Currently leader" didn't do him justice, since he's the only leader they've ever had. Isomorphic 03:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: politics & artist

message: Liminov isnt antisemite, in National Bolshevik Party are people with Jewish descent, "Limonka" never published any antisemitic articles
"by which I guess they mean Israel" then why not say "Israel delenda est"? There's a famous headline from a British paper in the 1930s quoted often by anti-Semites concerning the passage of a resolution calling for a boycott of German goods by a a Jewish congress. The headline reads "Judea declares war on Germany". The name "Judea" has been quite commonly used to refer to the "Jewish people" though it is a bit arcane now it is still quite commonly used in that way by anti-Semites.  Homey 01:18, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: He istnt Anti-Semite 

message: regarding "In 1995 Limonov was judged by a Russian court of having committed ethnic hate crimes.  In his decision"In essence, E. V. Limonov (Savenko) is an advocate of revenge and mass terror, raised to the level of state policy."  "
there is no source for any judgement against Limonov in 1995.  The link is to a 1996 decision at a pretrial hearing, with no conviction (only a recommendation to see if prosecution can happen).  If there was a conviction, we should definitely put it in, so please find a real source if possible.
Dsol 15:39, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Do not readd unsourced material, 69.253.195.228. This is official policy: wikipedia:CITE  You can play by the rules or be blocked.  If he was judged in 1995, don't give us a pretrial hearing document from 1996. Dsol 20:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  recent addition not sourced properly 

message: Serbian people will never forget his support in 1992,when he personaly shot at Sarajevo.Limonov is one of few remaining true greatsDzoni 06:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What a great man

message: a russian is no man, the boy's a pig.
Sorry for so many questions but there is so much contradictory information on this guy out there. I know he has some weird views but some of this just has to be distortions. 1) Is he Christian? He wrote an article in The eXile saying Joan of Arc is one of his heros and here's a picture of him wearing a cross http://ramones.ru/histories/ru/limonov/limo1.jpg 2) Is he bisexual and what is the NBP's stand on gays? This article http://www.opendemocracy.net/globalization-institutions_government/nazi_russia_3511.jsp says they want to get rid of them but Limonov himself has written about sucking guys dicks 3) That same article says the NBP supports a "final solution" type answer to the war in Chechnya. On the other hand, someone on this page said he expressed support for seperatists during the Beslan massacre. 4) The article from slate says his response to September 11th was "holy shit" but doesn't go beyond that. What was his opinion? Also, in the links there's an article about Islam but it doesn't work anymore. It might have some answers to questions about religion, Chechnya, and September 11th. Does anyone know where there's another copy? The Secretary of Funk 05:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't in all honesty see in Limonov an anti-semite, a homophobe or a racist. I've read a lot of his works, both political and literary - he is actually quite apt at being tolerant. He may be odd, deranged, a 'pervert' and all that, but come on - who's going to cast the first stone at him? He's intelligent, sexually omnivorous and apparently very good at being friends with just about anyone. Of course, there's a world of difference between him personally and the supporters his NazBolshevism attracts. It may well be that splinter groups or NazBol-ists outside of his immediate influence and supervision do actually condone and promulgate racism, antisemitism and homophobia - underpriveleged and underemployed lumpenproletariat is not known for their enlightened views of humanity and historical responsibility. But I would venture to say that Limonov *personally* can give, to use a Russian phrase, a hundred points handicap to the vast majority of his Russian contemporaries when it comes to tolerance.AxmxZ 22:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Revolution in Russia, not a war in Chechnya" photo: https://web.archive.org/web/20071114205400/http://www.nbp-info.ru/new/photo/230204/18.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SankyaF1 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he a Christian? Is he bisexual? Where does he stand on Chechnya? What did he think of September 11th? 

message: Please, please, remove this reference, I have a friend who's convinced the Exile articles are actually put together by Limonov - he's put money on it, and while I certainly don't have to hand over anything to him on account of a wikipedia article, it gives him good grounds to withold my winnings.Ticket-tout 20:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contributions to the Exile

message: The article is heavily biased towards the political activities of Limonov. But, after all, he is a very significant writer, one of a few modern Russian authors appreciated by Nabokov, btw.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.1.138 (talk) 22:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: As noted in my previous edit summary, I have asked the IP reverted by at least three editors to "Please follow WP policies: use neutral, scholarly sources _independent_ of the subject; do not make use of primary sources to make claims about third parties, and use the talk page if possible" before reverting everyone else in sweeping edits to the lede that are worded in a WP:SOAPBOX way and which delete material from noted scholars like Stephen Shenfield. Since the IP is unwilling to discuss, I'll simply caution that using the editing privileges to delete sourced material and rewrite the article for propaganda purposes will result in my asking for protection from IP edits or block for edit warring. Zloyvolsheb (talk) 10:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stubborn IP 

message: Is he an ethnic ukrainian? His family name, Savenko, isn't russian - it's typically ukrainian.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.166.8 (talk) 12:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's a Ukrainian name but I think he is of Jewish family. Also many Ukrainian Jews have taken typical Ukrainian names. Närking (talk) 18:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: He is half Ukrainian, half Russian, 0% Jewish. His father is an ethnic Ukrainian, Veniamin Savenko, while his mother is an ethnic Russian, Rimma Zybkina. Валентин Васильев (talk) 00:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Veniamin is not a very Ukrainian name. In any case, it's all guesswork. As they say, references or didn't happen.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.125.217.248 (talk) 20:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Savenko 

message: Is there a reason for the block quote / background color change in the first section? It doesn't seem like it belongs. --RichardMills65 (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  block quote area 

message: I provided this reference to RFE/RL. Please self-revert. Thank you. My very best wishes (talk) 05:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll readd this. I didn't notice that you inserted a different link from your edit summary. Zloyvolsheb (talk) 05:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of well sourced material

message: Since the start of the Ukraine crisis, Limonov has been strongly supportive of the Kremlin's annexation of Crimea and its backing for separatist forces in east Ukraine. He has also been a regular columnist for the pro-Putin newspaper Izvestiya. In an article in the newspaper on 21 May,he called on the Kremlin to shut down several independent or liberal media outlets and to deport leading journalists critical of the government http://izvestia.ru/news/586703  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.161.97 (talk) 15:49, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer an opponent of Putin 

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