Talk:Cable Act

message: I am including this article into the "Chinese American History" and "Japanese American History" categories, as this piece of legislation was meant to specifically exclude women married to alien Chinese and Japanese men in the United States. I believe there may be other categories to which this article could be added; however, I am taking a conservative approach at this time. I do know if others here would regard this as a minor or major edit; regardless, I believe changes to this article's categorization should be open to discussion, just to be safe. 
JK Hahn 19:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As noted earlier, perhaps this article could also be included under some women's rights-related categories. JK Hahn 10:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of Categories

message: It might be good information for the article to mention when this law was not repealed.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 06:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the University of Houston site (http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/asian_voices/asian_timeline.cfm): In 1931, the Cable Act was amended "to allow American women to retain their citizenship after marrying aliens ineligible for U.S. citizenship." And in 1936, Congress did make some fixes but did not repeal(http://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=49&page=1917) and (http://legisworks.org/sal/49/stats/STATUTE-49-Pg1917.pdf) the Cable Act was NOT repealed: it survives in 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 324. JK Hahn 08:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Repealed

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message: As of today, this entire article is about loss of citizenship.  This seems to be very tangential to the actual effects of the Cable Act.  "No marriage since that date has granted U.S. citizenship".  If the quoted source is accurate, then this needs to be described in the article somewhere.  Whether or not this was the intent of the Act, it did become one of its major outcomes.  Miqrogroove (talk) 21:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Severe Bias 

message: The lead section of the cable act is very confusing and should be clarified. I think most contemporary interest in this law relates to the historical injustice it documents. This law perpetuated unequal rights for women and Asian men, which should be emphasized in this article. The Context of the Law section is good, but the leading paragraph should preview that section better. The John L. Cable information is important, but I think it should be removed from the leading paragraph and put in the Context Section. I also suggest improving the "Amendments to 1922 Act" section. Those amendments aren't discussed on other Wikipedia pages. At a minimum we should summarize what the amendments did in that section. Doing so would add historical context and display progress that has occurred towards equality.
I don't agree with Miqrogroove in saying that loss of citizenship is tangential, the contribution that this act had to the discrimination of Asians cannot be ignored. Though I do agree in that the the quip about the law not applying to men should be removed. The law clearly marginalized women and this page doesn't need more evidence of that. In regards to the Expatriation act, the cable act did in fact repeal sections 3 and 4. Reading the text of the Expatriation act, section 3. caused American women to take the nationality of their husbands after marriage. The Cable act allowed American women to retain their citizenship if they married foreign men, unless if was "an alien ineligible to citizenship". As JK Hahn said, this caused women to lose their citizenship if they married Asians. Section 4. said "That any foreign woman who acquires American citizenship shall be assumed to retain the same after the termination of the marital relation if she continue to reside in the United States." The effect of the cable act was that foreign women had to now apply for citizenship/naturalization after marrying a male American citizen, but it did waive the 5 year residence period. As I understand it, previously they would instantly become an American citizen through marriage, but now they needed apply and have resided in the USA for a year. 
Public law 67-346 link is broken and should be fixed. The Statute link 1021b is fine, but I'm not sure why it is called 1021b because I don't see the "b" in public documents. I propose changing the text to: 42 Stat. 1021. Anonkiwi (talk) 02:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article improvements 

message: This article lacks a clear and direct explanation of what the Cable Act actually did, instead focusing entirely on an analysis of the problems that it addressed and the related issues of women's rights. Not to take away from the importance of that context, but the article needs a clear and direct explanation of what the act actually says and does. 24.6.0.156 (talk) 16:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poorly written and confusing