Talk:Barmakids

message: I removed a section that was not very well integrated and lacked sources; I haven't found any other references to the al Taleebi.
;Disgrace and fall
:Harun al-Rashid   and the Barmakids were like family before the dilemma. Yahya bin Khaild raised Harun with his other sons Al Fadal bin Yahya, Jafar bin Yahya, Mossa bin Yahya and Mohammed bin Yahya. After Harun became the Kalifa he assigned Yahya bin Khaild as his prime minister.  He also assigned Al Fadal major chief and mossa the head military chief.  Jafar hover was given the possession of several provinces and the raising of the Khalifa Harun's child Al Ma'amoon.
:Although the Barmakids have done a lot that promote Harron and his country the rift from what happened between the allies caused Harun to punish them.
:Historians were uncertain of the cause that led Harun to demolish the Barmakids.  However the rumor about Harun sister and Jafar is untrue. The following may clear what caused the Barmakids sad end.
:Harun al-Rashid   sent al Al Fadal to al Taleebi (another rivaling tribe) to sign a peace treaty without violence or bloodshed.  A while later after signing the treaty as Harun expcted al Taleebi broke the treaty. So Harun ordered he be captured and kept with Jafar bin Yahya.  However one night Jafar and Yahya al Taleebi met secretly to plan Yahya's escape.  Jafar freed him and gave him money to flee from Baghdad.  When Harun al Rashid knew of this great betrayal he ordered Jafar's death and the imprisonment of the rest of his family.  Harun was scared of the Taleebi clan and would not risk the Taleebi and Barmakids joining forces to destroy the Abassids.
If you find anything worth putting back in in there; feel free. flammifertalk 11:41, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
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"The family has its origin in a line of hereditary priests (Sanskrit प्रमुख Pramukh, arabized to Barmak) at the Buddhist monastery of Nava Vihara (Nawbahar) west of BalkhEncyclopedia Iranica, "Barmakids" by I. Abbas ."
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message: That expression should be explained in this article, not just vaguely alluded to... AnonMoos (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: The article states that Barmecides is incorrect because the third syllable is not a sibilant, but there is no sibilant inherent in Barmecides, being an obvious Romanization, where c was never pronounced as a sibilant. Whoever wrote this seems to believe that modern English pronunciation apparently supersedes historical pronunciation in resolving accuracy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.220.42.13 (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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message: I get your point but it needs to be mentioned that primary sources called their ancestor Barmak a Zoroastrian. The wording can be changed to something like “[...] were an influential Iranian[2][3] family from Balkh, despite primary Muslim sources describing their ancestor Barmak as a Zoroastrian priest, modern scholars rather agree on the family being originally hereditary Buddhist leaders (in the Nawbahar monastery),[a][5]”
What do you think?
Xerxes1985 (talk) 12:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I must disagree. It is irrelevant to mention in the lede (not to mention convoluted), considering they weren't even Zoroastrian, it's just bogus info. This is also stated in Khalid ibn Barmak: "Historical traditions that assign the Barmakids a Zoroastrian origin, and even make them descendants of the chief ministers of the Sassanid dynasty, are later fabrications invented during the family's zenith" Barthold, W. & Sourdel, D. (1960). "al-Barāmika" --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:21, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: User:HistoryofIran I guess you’re right, all though Zoroastrian influence in their Buddhism, like among the Kushans, is not unlikely, but this is just speculation at this point. Not to mention the Muslim sources falsely mentioning them to be Zoroastrian are already covered in the Origins section Xerxes1985 (talk) 11:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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message: Why does it say Iranian if they are from Balkh which is located in modern day Northern Afghanistan EFactchecker (talk) 05:43, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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