Talk:Simon Darby

message: There are editors involved in this article keen to push a specific POV 
(these changes) on the controversy issue. It is a key tenet of wikipedia that a neutral point of view is employed. The article as it stood  balanced all sides of the argument, having previously been unbalanced. It is not for wikipedia to decide on the truth but to use reliable sources that are verifiable to create a balanced article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigger digger (talk • contribs) 15:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Editing is still going on to include the POV material. The La Repubblica (which is noted as left-wing) source has the same photo as the thisislondon source and the article translated here doesn't mention Simon Darby, so is now venturing into the realms of original research which is not acceptable. Bigger digger (talk) 15:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm not arguing about Darby and the BNP's connections or intentions, I just want this article to follow WP:BLP, to reflect what independent sources have said on the issue. You can see above that I've argued for the inclusion of the controversy section before. I translated the La Repubblica article on google but it only says that some people gave the "Roman salute" (that's the thing I learnt today) and Father Giulio Tam was there. Furthermore, it makes absolutely no mention of Darby. Given that that this is an article about Darby I would expect a source used in his page to mention him... Furthermore, the phrase "contradicting Darby's claim that this was an isolated group." is original research as there are no sources to support it, which is particularly dangerous with a living person's biography. I will regrettably revert it but with the sad expectation that you will reinsert your POV instead of debating here. Fingers crossed though! Bigger digger (talk) 18:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Because this page is about Darby! Should we also mention that Hitler went to Italy? Your additions on that level are therefore either irrelevant, wrong (my google translation doesn't mention Tam saluting) or original research. The paragraph already links to the Forza Nuova party where it prominently states it is far-right and fascist, and the use of "Nazi salutes" makes it quite clear, so there's no doubt about the type of event Darby was attending or what happened, whilst it is only balanced to allow his POV. I have reported this at WP:BLP/N#Simon Darby Part 2  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigger digger (talk • contribs) 18:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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