Talk:Sinai Peninsula

message: The article is unclear about when the Arabic name derived from "Sinai" was adopted for the peninsula; it seems to only refer to the Christian "Mount Sinai" (the mount, not the peninsula) as being called Jebel et-Tūr in the 19th century (a very generic name, "Mount Mountain" more or less, practically a no-name). What about the peninsula? What are the traditional names used by its Bedouin inhabitants? What about Coptic traditions? What happened in the transition periods (ancient-to-Christian era, Chr.-to-Arab Islamic era)? Arminden (talk) 15:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Egyptian and traditional Arabic names 

message: External link or links have recently been deleted by User:Calton as "horrible Tripod pages which add little information, are full of ads, and fail WP:EL standards." No better external links were substituted. Readers may like to judge these deleted links for themselves, by opening Page history. --Wetman 14:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted external links

message: This article and several others dont clarify this question.    The "southwest asia" article has a map with Sinai colored-in as part of southwest Asia,   and says Egypt is not considered a south-west asian country.    Although like Turkey,  there is no reason why a country can't be in two continents.    My opinion ( and it is only that )  is that Sinai is more geologically attached to Asia  than Africa.   The Suez canal would be an appropriate boundary.   The "Eilat" article says that town is on the boundary of Asia and Africa  which presumably implies that the Israel-Egypt border is the boundary.   Someone with more expertise than me needs to clarify this. Eregli bob 09:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am no expert in the subject. But the article about Sinai in the Hebrew Wikipedia explicitly says that Sinai is located in south-west Asia. No reference is given, though. Ehudzel (talk) 09:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

text: I came to this article specifically to answer the question: Asia or Africa? It would be wonderful for someone to help answer this question.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.141.201.162 (talk) 20:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  A hint to the answer should be that Egypt is regarded as a bicontinental country. Leo1pard (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sinai and Israel both sit on the African Plate. So there's that. 50.101.248.225 (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Sinai part of Africa or Asia 

message: "Voyages...Visages" - Another way of travelling and seeing I keep on timing out on this, does it work for anyone else? Horus (talk) 21:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Link

message: Where are the geographical features of this land, i.e. formation, composition, geological history... Only history and tourist info? Please expand this article, that's really relevant information! Al-Iskandar Tzaraath (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Geography and Geology?

message: But this article actually EXCLUDES any mention of why the name Sinai is used, and any significance for the Jews! Antisemitism in Wikipedia is alive an well 120.22.219.202 (talk) 11:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Making accusations of 'Anti-semitism' merely because an article does not contain a specific piece of information you feel should be included is both irresponsible and insulting. There is a Jewish Wikiproject which looks over this article (the link is above). Perhaps you should raise the matter on their project page. Manning (talk) 03:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Amazing

message: On 7 December, Shalom11111 made an edit about the conflicts between Arabs and Israelis. There has been an edit war since then instead of having an discussion. Gareth Griffith-Jones have reverted edits of those changing to the older, stable version. I see that as I am writing this, he has reverted my edit instead of talking.
It's a known controversy. Shalom11111 know very well about that. He went to Six-Day War#Preemptive strike v. unjustified attack where he copied the Israeli view and ignoring the other and changed the article from Israel invaded and occupied Sinai during the Suez Crisis (known in Egypt as the Tripartite Aggression) of 1956, and during the Six Day War of 1967 to Israel had to take a pre-emptive strike against Egypt in the face of a planned invasion,[2] later on capturing Sinai during the Suez Crisis (known in Egypt as the Tripartite Aggression) of 1956, and during the Six Day War of 1967. First of all, the source used (BBC) is about the 1967 war. It has of course nothing to do with the 1956 war. Secondly, it is written that "Israel claimed it was a pre-emptive strike in the face of a planned invasion" so to present it as a fact is wrong.
The second part of the edit was changing it from "Subsequent to Egyptian actions, Israel attacked Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, starting the Six-Day War" to "Subsequent to Egyptian actions, Israel attacked Egypt, and was then attacked by Syria and Jordan, which started the Six-Day War". This is not a neutral view. If you look at Six-Day War, it is stated "The war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise strikes against Egyptian air-fields in response to the mobilisation of Egyptian forces on the Israeli border" in the lead and that it's an accurate description. --IRISZOOM (talk) 21:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: For some days, the article has had the earlier wording. I hope it will stay neutral. --IRISZOOM (talk) 20:18, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits about the conflicts 

message: Does the Sinai mountain range extend into Eilat? I am not speaking of the political "Sinai" mountain range but the physical, geographical mountain range. Looking at the map it seems decidedly so, except I can find no reference concerning this anywhere.CWatchman (talk) 12:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Does the Sinai mountain range extend into Eilat?

message: One would get the impression here that nothing happened here between 1313BC and 1260AD. No visits by Helena, mother of Constantine? Nothing happened here for hundreds of years? 155.213.224.59 (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large Gap in History 

message: At the moment the article makes it appear as though Egyptian actions in the Sinai in 1967 were merely an attempt to militarise the area. In fact, they were a response to at least two events, an Israeli attack on an Egyptian military base in which Egyptian troops died and a false warning passed to Egypt by the Soviet Union that Israel was about to attack Syria.       ←   ZScarpia   11:09, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  1967 

message: The second paragraph starts with "The Sinai Peninsula has remained a part of Egypt from the First Dynasty of ancient Egypt (c. 3100 BC) until the 21st century" then goes on to document a number of times when it was not part of Egypt. Should the first sentence be less adamant?
˥ Ǝ Ʉ  H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 22:25, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it doesn't mention several times it wasn't. It mentions that when Egypt was under foreign occupation, Sinai was included in that; it then says that Israel occupied it in the 20th century. I think that the only change necessary is to fix the 21st to 20th. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remained a part of Egypt? 

message: Leo1pard (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page views 

message: The 1,400,000 population figure was added to the article 5 years ago in this edit, without a source. It says that the North+South governorates were 554,000, so the three Suez governorates east of the Canal were c.850,000. But the book below suggests this is not true. It says that “Over 94 percent of the areaand probably 97 percent of the population are found in the large governorates, leaving less than 6 percent of the area and 3 percent of the population attached to As Suways (Suez), Al Ismailiyah (Ismailia),and Bur Said (Port Said) governorates.”
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Onceinawhile (talk) 21:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Perhaps someone with permission can change article text from "Sadat" to: [Anwar Sadat|Sadat] or something similar. 2019-10-18 22:24  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.39.107.214 (talk)  
:--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 04:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anwar Sadat 

message: In the name section, the Hebrew word סֶנֶּה needs to be changed to סְנֶה seneh "brambles", and linked to the Burning Bush.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.26.147.131 (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Edit 

message: The Egyptians managed to penetrate the Sinai Peninsula by destroying the bar lev line and eventually putting troops in Sinai, while there was an attempt to breach through the army to Isamalia, they failed to take the city so Sinai was under the Egyptian troops right before international intervention which is why they were able to keep the Peninsula  — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnknownWisp (talk • contribs) 18:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Read, man, read. Don't believe the propaganda, look for high-standard sources. Good luck. Ah, and take the vaccine, there's no chip inside. Arminden (talk) 17:00, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egypt was successful in retaking Sinai 

message: Add the coptic name ⲥⲓⲛⲁ Sina in "names" Tehenu (talk) 05:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Seagull123  Φ  22:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 January 2021 

message: Remove the "The Exodus according to Islamic sources" section completely. This is completely unsourced (and dubious historical accuracy), has nothing to do with the article, and is blatantly a pro-Islamic propaganda insert which is a violation of lacking bias. Sarstan (talk) 23:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Mvqr (talk) 11:54, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exodus according to Islamic Sources - Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 November 2022 

message: Is Eilat located in the peninsula? 2A02:14F:178:7A36:0:0:4854:70F1 (talk) 10:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eilat  

message: The process by which Egypt regained control of the Sinai Peninsula after it was occupied by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War involved a combination of diplomatic negotiations, military confrontation, and international pressure. Here are some key events and factors:
After the 1967 war, the United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 242, which called for the "withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict." This resolution became the basis for subsequent diplomatic efforts to resolve the conflict.
In 1971, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt expelled Soviet military advisers from the country and began to seek closer relations with the United States. This shift in foreign policy was partly motivated by a desire to regain control of the Sinai Peninsula and end the state of war with Israel.
In 1973, Egypt and Syria launched a surprise attack on Israel on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, which led to a brief but intense war. Egyptian and Syrian forces defeated Israeli forces and pushed them out of Israel. This led the United States to intervene and support Israel militarily so that Egypt and Syria could not invade the rest of Israel. The war demonstrated that Israel was not invincible and that it drew its strength from the United States, and did not have any strength of its own.
In the aftermath of the war, the United States, under the leadership of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, initiated a series of secret negotiations between Egypt and Israel, known as the "shuttle diplomacy." Through these talks, the two sides reached an agreement in 1978, known as the Camp David Accords, which included a framework for the return of the Sinai to Egyptian control.
In 1979, Egypt and Israel signed a peace treaty that formalized the terms of the Camp David Accords and led to the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Sinai. The treaty also established diplomatic relations between the two countries and provided for security arrangements and economic cooperation.
The process of regaining control of the Sinai was a significant achievement for Egypt and marked a turning point in its relations with Israel and the United States. However, the treaty also sparked controversy and opposition within Egypt and the Arab world, as it was seen by some as a betrayal of the Palestinian cause and a capitulation to Israeli demands. 86.191.189.12 (talk) 08:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 09:28, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 April 2023 

message: Hello. It says that Egypt launched the Yom Kippur War in an attempt to recapture Sinai from Israel. That’s not true, Sadat claimed that Egypt’s objective was to capture a small foothold in Sinai and use it to pressure the government of Israel to give up the whole peninsula as he knew that he did not have the military capabilities to recapture Sinai from Israel. 197.39.143.186 (talk) 17:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yom Kippur War  

message: I am unable to edit the page given that it is protected, but under the Tourism Section there is a citation needed in regards to the following quote
"Since the Israeli–Egyptian peace treaty, Sinai's scenic spots (including coral reefs offshore) and religious structures have become important to the tourism industry. The most popular tourist destination in Sinai are Mount Sinai (Jabal Musa) and St Catherine's Monastery, which is considered to be the oldest working Christian monastery in the world, and the beach resorts of Sharm el-Sheikh, Dahab, Nuweiba and Taba. Most tourists arrive at Sharm el-Sheikh International Airport, through Eilat, Israel and the Taba Border Crossing, by road from Cairo or by ferry from Aqaba in Jordan."
The source is on this ScienceDirect page: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261517799000229
It specifically mentions tourism to the coral reefs, Mount Sinai, the St Catherine Monastery, and Sharm el-Sheikh. It is an old article though, from 1999 so it is likely outdated. I'll leave it to someone else to decide what to do. GranolaCube (talk) 23:49, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential Source for Tourism Section 

message: This Article Is Full of Bias in Favor of Colonizing Arabs and Is Full of Misinformation and Propaganda
And reading this "talk" page shows that this has been drawn to your attention repeatedly for at least 20 years, Wiki. It's the same issue, actually, as in your article about Egypt and native Egyptians--your site would have it that they were always Islamic/Arabic, which is completely and patently untrue as about 6,000 years of documented history--which cannot be eradicated, however hard you try--serves to prove otherwise.
This is why I will never donate to Wikipedia, nor will I ever send anyone here for information. Because you allow too much propaganda and factless articles to be published here. I came here to find out where exactly the Sinai (HEBREW name) Peninsula is, and couldn't believe the lies printed here about well-documented history, i.e., wars, etc.
Will find a true source for information. Good bye! 2600:6C51:4700:3ABB:28C3:7160:8E73:7A65 (talk) 01:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Is Full of Bias in Favor of Colonizing Arabs and Is Full of Misinformation and Propaganda 

message: Under Sinai_Peninsula#Demographics, it'd be good to intralink the sentence "The two governorates of North and South Sinai" to the two mentioned governorate: North_Sinai_Governorate and South_Sinai_Governorate.
While they're linked earlier in the article under Sinai_Peninsula#Geography, it's a long article and it makes sense for the Demographics section to be self-contained, especially when the second sentence there  links to the three other relevant governorates. 77.138.148.116 (talk) 02:08, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Elli (talk | contribs) 22:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics - add governorates intralinks 

message: Saying that Sinai Peninsula borders the Mediterranean Sea on the north is like saying that Balkan Peninsula borders the Baltic Sea on the north. The actual Sinai Peninsula is only the triangle between the Gulf of Suez and the Gulf of Aqaba, AND A LINE CONNECTING THE NORTHERN TIPS OF BOTH GULFS. The area north of this triangle (between said line and the Mediterranean) IS NOT PART OF THE PENINSULA.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.237.126.24 (talk) 08:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well no, the whole triangle is considered Sinai. For example, pretty much every source treats the northern coastal city of Arish to be located on the peninsula. Egypt State Information Service  goes on to state that it's . No such user (talk) 09:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I was referring to the strictly geographical sense of the term. Of course there is a wider region (and province(s)) named after the Peninsula. 151.237.126.24 (talk) 08:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic Limits