Talk:Elwendia persica

message: Could a native speaker please clarify what 'kala zeera' refers to. The bag of kala zeera that I bought the other week contains B. persicum, not N. Sativa.
Kala zeera applies to black cumin B. Persicum in most of North India, but is not the same as caraway which is only found by roadsides in India, not as a crop (private email with Edinburgh Botanical Gardens). Nigella sativa, also known erroneously in India and other countries, as black onion seed (not related) is known as kala zeera (other spellings) in Bengal.
:I bought 100 grams of "Kali Ziri" for about $2.50 USD and know it's not Nigella sativa, but this Wikipedia article makes me think it's not Elwendia persica either. Bunium persicum is in the third reference of this article right now, but it's attached to a sentence containing the words "Nigella sativa"
:We essentially have three plant botanical names, but only two Wikipedia articles. 174.249.210.5 (talk) 23:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

message: As mentioned above, there seems to be some confusion over the different plants black cumin may refer to. I removed some talk from the article suggesting that Bunium persicum does not contain thymol, for example. I have no idea what is correct, but if somebody could clear it up, that would be great. --Michael Snow (talk) 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The simplest way to explain is this: if you know what cumin looks like, then black cumin, shajira, Elwendia persica, Bunium persicum (all the same regardless of whatever it's called) looks very similar but a slightly darker colour than regular cumin (although certainly not black). Nigella sativa is a smaller, irregular shaped seed (almost a teardrop). Properly known as kalonji or black onion seed, Nigella sativa is nothing like true black cumin. Wokepedian (talk) 04:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion 

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message: Who are the authorities who synonymize B. bulbocastanum with B. persicum? None of the various taxonomic databases I've checked (The Plant List, TROPICOS, ARS-GRIN) show this to be the case. If they are lumped, this appears to be a minority viewpoint.Plantdrew (talk) 22:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, an old viewpoint. Updated. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's spurious, it's not in the Soviet literature as referenced here. I removed the reference to Komarov as it was false. Leo Breman (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  B. bulbocastanum 

message: The Biblical Hebrew word קֶצַח (ketzach) refers to Nigella sativa, not to Bunium persicum. The confusion comes from both being called "black cumin" in English, which is also the common translation of קֶצַח. Nigella sativa was common to the Levant and Middle East during Biblical times whereas Bunium persicum was probably totally unknown. The article should be changed to reflect this. Ruyn13 (talk) 23:51, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out. I deleted the offending sentence; Nigella sativa already covers the Hebrew name and biblical reference.Plantdrew (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity of Hebrew קֶצַח