Talk:History of Minneapolis

message: I'm going to use this as a timeline/outline for the article, along with a list of the books I plan to use for references.
===Discovery===
* 1680 - Father Hennepin visits the falls, names them Falls of St. Anthony (Pennefeather)
* 1805 - Zebulon Pike negotiates with the Dakota Indians, who cede land that includes St. Anthony Falls (Pennefeather)
===Fort Snelling and St. Anthony Falls===
* 1820-1823 - Josiah Snelling builds Fort Snelling, soldiers build first mills at the falls (Pennefeather)
* 1836 - Joseph Nicollet
* 1838 - Franklin Steele stakes a claim on the east side of the falls (Pennefeather)
===City pioneers===
* 1850 - John H. Stevens is the first settler on the west side of the river; receives a claim in exchange for providing free ferry service (current article)
* Franklin Steele and Ard Godfrey
* 1854-1855 - first bridge over the Mississippi built (Pennefeather)
* 1854 - Stevens plats Minneapolis (Millett p. 26)
* 1855 - St. Anthony incorporated (Pennefeather)
* 1858 - Minnesota becomes a state (anyone)
* 1867 - Minneapolis is incorporated (Pennefeather)
===Industry at St. Anthony Falls===
* 1848-1887 - Minneapolis leads the nation in sawmilling (Pennefeather)
* 1869 - a bunch of brainiacs build a tunnel under the falls; hilarity ensues in the form of a tunnel collapse (Pennefeather)
* 1870-1884 - falls are restored and protected by an apron, dam, and dike (Pennefeather)
* 1872 - Minneapolis and St. Anthony merge (Pennefeather)
* 1878 - Washburn "A" Mill explodes, taking many other mills with it (Pennefeather)
* 1881 - Pillsbury "A" Mill
* 1880-1930 - Minneapolis leads the nation in flour production (Pennefeather)
* 1882 - Nation's first hydroelectric plant opens on Upton Island (Pennefeather)
* 1883 - Stone Arch Bridge opens (Pennefeather)
* 1883 - Minneapolis Society of Fine Arts (first meeting)
* Railway development (Hofsommer)
===Some section on late 1800s/early 1900s other than milling===
* 1851 - University of Minnesota
* Winslow House Hotel (riverboat tourism)
* 1854 - Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
* 1860 - Eliza Winston episode
* 1867 - Twin City Rapid Transit
* c. 1875 - Minnehaha Falls
* 1876 - A. A. Ames first of four terms as mayor (corruption)
* 1881 - Minneapolis Grain Exchange founded as Chamber of Commerce
* 1883 - Horace Cleveland outlines system of parks (Millett p. 29)
* 1885 - William S. King donates Lake Harriet to city
* 1886 - Minneapolis Heat Regulator Company
* 1886 - Martha Ripley opens Maternity Hospital
* 1888 - first bandshell built at Lake Harriet by Thomas Lowry
* Arts: Minneapolis Institute of Arts, Minnesota Orchestra, other stuff from the History of Minnesota article
* 1900 - DeLaSalle High School (Minneapolis)
* 1902 - Donaldson's Glass Block, Goodfellow's Dry Goods (later Dayton's)
* 1906 - Theodore Wirth and the city park system
===A changing city===
* development of neighborhoods (see Neighborhoods of Minneapolis)
* 1910 - St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral, Minneapolis
* 1926 - Basilica of Saint Mary
* 1920 - first runway opens at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport (is this in Minneapolis?)
* 1927 - Walker Art Gallery opens
* 1929 - Foshay Tower
* 1930-1950 - decline of flour milling; many mills are dismantled (Pennefeather)
* 1934 - Minneapolis Teamsters Strike of 1934
* 1945-1949 - Mayor Hubert Humphrey - "the time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadows of states' rights and walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights"
* 1948 - Billy Graham appointed? president of Northwestern College
* 1950-1956 - lower lock and dam are constructed (Pennefeather)
* 1959-1963 - upper lock and dam are constructed (Pennefeather)
* Construction of freeways
* 1957 - Minneapolis decides to demolish the Gateway district (Millett pp 1-2) 
* 1961 - Metropolitan Building (Northwestern Guaranty Loan Building) is demolished (Millett)
* 1963 - Guthrie Theater opened
* 1965 - Washburn "A" Mill closes (Pennefeather)
* 1968 - American Indian Movement founded
* 1968 - Nicollet Mall (Millett)
* 1971 - W. Harry Davis first black mayoral candidate from major party
===Modern Minneapolis===
* 1974 - IDS Center
* 1982 - Metrodome 
* 1988 - Norwest Center (now Wells Fargo)
* 1992 - 225 South Sixth (previously First Bank)
* Riverfront park development (including opening the Stone Arch Bridge to foot traffic)
* 1993 - Sharon Sayles Belton elected - first African American and only female mayor
* 2001 - Block E
* 2004 - Hiawatha Line
* 2004 - Mill City Museum (coming full circle on the Washburn "A" Mill)
* 2006 - New Guthrie Theater
* 2006 - Keith Ellison (politician) - first Muslim member of U.S. Congress
* 2010 - Twins Ballpark
Feel free to add anything I left out, or remove anything that looks too specialized.  After all, I don't own the article; I'm just organizing it for now.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 05:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Great start Elkman! I added some things, moved some things, added dates and links to ease development of sections.--Appraiser 17:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *Echoing Appraiser, well done. You already had most of the things I thought of, adding a few to use or not as you see fit. -Susanlesch 23:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *Added the 1934 Teamsters strike to the list. Eco84 | Talk 20:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed outline

message: * 1974 - IDS Center
* 1982 - Metrodome 
* 1988 - Norwest Center (now Wells Fargo)
* 1992 - 225 South Sixth (previously First Bank)
* Riverfront park development (including opening the Stone Arch Bridge to foot traffic)
* 1993 - Sharon Sayles Belton elected - first African American and only female mayor
* 2001 - Block E
* 2004 - Hiawatha Line
* 2004 - Mill City Museum (coming full circle on the Washburn "A" Mill)
* 2006 - New Guthrie Theater
* 2006 - Keith Ellison (politician) - first Muslim member of U.S. Congress
* 2010 - Twins Ballpark
Feel free to add anything I left out, or remove anything that looks too specialized.  After all, I don't own the article; I'm just organizing it for now.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 05:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Great start Elkman! I added some things, moved some things, added dates and links to ease development of sections.--Appraiser 17:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *Echoing Appraiser, well done. You already had most of the things I thought of, adding a few to use or not as you see fit. -Susanlesch 23:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *Added the 1934 Teamsters strike to the list. Eco84 | Talk 20:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern Minneapolis

message: I think Hennepin may be getting the short shrift here.  Using Google Earth, the water level at the lower end of Nicollet Island is 801' above sea level; under the Stone Arch Bridge, it's 751'; under the I-35 bridge, it's 725'.  So, over 3/4 mi., the river currently drops 76'.  We know that the falls moved upstream (see ), but the total drop in elevation has to be similar to what it was 330 years ago.  Therefore, I don't think he was exaggerating. --Appraiser 15:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *"At Franklin Steele’s original dam, the head–the distance the water fell from above the dam to below it–totaled only eight feet.  By 1889 de la Barre had elevated the average head to 36 feet and later raised it to 45 feet." Maybe the 8 or 10 feet is a dam, not the waterfall? Here is the source for that quote. -Susanlesch 14:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hennepin's exaggeration

message: I don't understand how "building low dams above the falls" could reduce the limestone's exposure to the weather.  Does that make sense to anyone reading this?  Flour production is measured in barrels.  Is there any information to convert barrels to pounds or cubic feet?  The barrel article mostly talks about liquids.--Appraiser 20:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Thanks.  I added a dry goods section to the barrel article, for the morbidly curious reader. --Appraiser 14:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: I'm inclined to think that one or two paragraphs from "Reshaping downtown" should be moved to the "Transportation" section, starting with "Freeway construction..." What do others think?--Appraiser 20:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I intended the "Transportation" subsection to be within "City pioneers" as a list of early transportation features in Minneapolis.  Maybe the subsection within "City pioneers" should be renamed to "Early transportation", and the transportation section within "Reshaping downtown" should be given its own subsection heading.  I don't think I want all of the transportation facts, from the first bridge at Hennepin Avenue to the I-35W bridge collapse, to be listed in one section.  I prefer to have the eras in city history (city pioneers, development of business and industry, social changes and "urban renewal" through the 50's and 60's, and modern Minneapolis) grouped together.  Within each of these loosely-defined time groupings, changes in one area (i.e. manufacturing) influenced another (i.e. transportation).  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 22:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: organisation

message: I just read this article and thought it was really good. There were a couple things I thought of when reading.
* Hubert H. Humphrey seems a bit over covered. Perhaps some of the three paragraphs devoted to him could be replaced with the political history of Minneapolis before the 1940s.  Minneapolis changed from being pretty conservative in the 19th century to more liberal now. 
* No mention of anti-Semitism or other discrimination? Being called “the capital of anti-Semitism in the United States” in 1946 is definitely notable. 
* The Minneapolis Teamsters Strike of 1934 is not mentioned. If it is included perhaps it should be noted that the rest of Minnesota had generally unionized by then. Maybe more labor history like the 1970 Teachers' Strike.
Just some general ideas off the top of my head. Some of these might be too detailed to deserve mention. Any thoughts?  Eóin (talk) 03:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Yes, one. As said elsewhere, if you have sourced additions, add them. Hope this helps. -Susanlesch (talk) 07:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some ideas 

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message: I really like this article, but I'm getting the feeling that it only focuses on downtown. I think it's missing something on the Urban Renewal period...maybe, and the neighborhoods of Minneapolis? What do you think? I can dig up some info on that, if need be... BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 03:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep it is missing such mentions. A good place to put n'hoods under is a paragraph on how the city expanded from downtown and its annexation + growth period. There is a bit of urban renewal mention in the Minneapolis main article which you can draw from and start on (including a source). Please go ahead! .:davumaya:. 03:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do...soon. Thanks. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 14:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Maybe it is a bit downtown-centric.  I think there might be some good history to be told about neighborhoods, such as the Kenwood and Lowry Hill areas and how they attracted the well-to-do who built nice houses.  (I'm thinking architecturally on that one, though.)  A lot of the source materials I used concentrated around St. Anthony Falls and downtown, so I guess I wasn't thinking a lot about neighborhoods beyond downtown.  Are there references that indicate how certain neighborhoods were populated?  For example, I imagine that some areas of south Minneapolis were populated by immigrants who worked for the Milwaukee Road or Great Northern Railway, or others.  Come to think of it, maybe this article could include some mention of business development outside of flour milling and manufacturing.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 22:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Of course, as the city grew, the inhabitants didn't just stay in downtown. They spread out. And there ARE compelling stories of many of the neighborhoods and some of the businesses as well. I'm not sure if I can find sources on the old history of the 'hoods, but I've got some leads on urban renewal, and I will pursue that angle of the city's history aas soon as the library gives me the books I need to tell the story. I think a little about the neighborhoods can be added to each section...anyone got anything on their histoy(ies)? BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downtown Centric? 

message: To be a free society, how is it alowed for one man to bring down most of the low income people of North Menneapolis. Steve Meldahl, how can we ever succeed or get ahead with this KKK, bringing us down?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.204.105 (talk) 18:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
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