Talk:James Ellroy

message: I've seen him at Q&A, where he claimed to support the death penalty. What is the evidense that he opposes it?
:Here. You were right; he's changed his mind.    Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the article claims his vegetarianism is at odds with his conservatism. You can't get much more right-wing than Hitler. How should this be edited? I'm stuck.24.131.12.228 18:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death penalty 

message: It says he was astonished by the "L.A. Confidential" movie adaptation. Is that the good type of astonishment or the bad?  24.60.22.251
: Ellroy has traditionally been a little coy about the film. On the L.A. Confidential DVD, he praises it, but in a way that acknowledges that it doesn't reflect the entirety of the novel. In other interviews, he's declined to comment on the film. I'm not sure we can get "astonished," but maybe he's discussed it more fully somewhere I haven't seen? 81.107.37.204 15:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Astonished"? 

message: I've toyed with the idea of adding a wiki entry for recurring characters in Ellroy novels, especially the L.A. quartet, but i'm not as knowledgeable as others... anybody care to start it up? Fullmetaljacuzzi 19:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recurring characters wiki 

message: I've placed a POV tag on the article. The opening paragraph reads very POV to me in the description of his writing style. It needs to be toned down and cited with published descriptions of his style. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:48, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: In a GQ article ("Body Dumps") later included in the 1999 book Crime Wave,  Ellroy wrote about the 1973 murder of Betty Jean Scales, probably by one Robby Polete. The article ends with Ellroy stating the investigation would continue. I've been unable to find anything further on the web about this case. Does anyone know whether it was finally closed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eye.earth (talk • contribs) 20:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article update

message: I've read a good deal of Ellroy's books and never found one that was a "depiction of American authoritarianism." They depict the lack of strong moral boundaries in both crime and law enforcement, but I wouldn't call that authoritarianism. They are not about state control. They are about state lack of control—of others, and itself. I don't think the intro is very correct, in that respect. --98.217.8.46 (talk) 18:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Arbitrary use of power, sure. But that's not authoritarianism by any definition. Authoritarianism is about control. Ellroy's books are about the real impossibility of strong control in a world where power is actually quite distributed (to use White Jazz as an example: the good LA cops have it, the corrupt LA cops have it, the feds have it,  the mafia guys have it, Howard Hughes has it, the petty criminals have it, etc., and the entire plot of the novel is about the protagonist trying to balance out these forces without ending up with a bullet in his gut). --98.217.8.46 (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Authoritarianism?

message: Which of these two "informal" titles is correct?  Where are the sources that indicate one or the other is used by Ellroy?  The subsection in this article used both titles, but we have a main article that uses the "American" title.  We need to straighten this out. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Underworld U.S.A." is correct.  Wikipedia, in fact, is the only place that I've ever seen it referred to as the "American Underworld" trilogy. Jedgeco (talk) 16:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree.  The sources I have seen all say "Underworld U.S.A."  This will have to be sorted out. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "American Underworld" or "Underworld U.S.A."? 

message: In the 'Methods, style and themes' section: what is a 'legal pad'? It must be a US-specific term. I gather from the context that it is some kind of notepad, but what sort? Can you use another descriptor that is understandable to all readers, please? 86.159.193.28 (talk) 09:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a note pad, typically yellow ruled paper, in a pad bound at the top.  I don't know if it's a US-specific term, but Ellroy is a US writer, and that's really the most descriptive term available, unless we are going to define everything ad nauseam. Jedgeco (talk) 21:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query 

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message: The 'Future Writings' section mentions his next book is called This Storm, and the manuscript is due in 'fall of 2017'. I was at the bookstore today, and This Storm now has a release date (September 2018) and a page count (592). https://books.google.com.au/books/about/This_Storm.html?id=DqPDCQAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y If this is solid information, perhaps it is worth updating.203.220.212.117 (talk) 07:31, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book update. 

message: While The Enchanters is listed under the Otash category, per Ellroy's website (https://www.jamesellroy.net/about-ellroy/) it is part of the second LA Quartet, which has evolved into the LA Quintent. Ellroy also mentioned this in an interview with Michael Connelly, which is also cited on this page. I think we should move The Enchanters in the bibliography as a result. 65.217.126.43 (talk) 20:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  LA Quintent