Talk:Gardiner Expressway

message: I did some minor editing of the section on the Scarborough Expressway extension.  It was not demolished due to low volumes, but rather the high maintenance costs were deemed to be better spent creating a grade-level avenue.  Moreover, the demolition was seen as a test-case for the eventual demolition of the entire Gardiner downtown.  I also removed the reference to the DVP being congested due to the fact that the Scarborough Expressway was never built.  Yes, the DVP is busier than it otherwise would have been had the SE been built.  Given the explosive growth in York Region over the last 20 years, compared to the relatively stagnant growth in Scarborough and Durham Region, most of the congestion on the DVP is due to other factors.  It would still be a parking lot even if the SE had been built.  Skeezix1000 21:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Scarborough Expressway

message: I don't trust ref 29. There is just no way that the TTC carries 47% of traffic in the core. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 05:24, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason why not. The TTC subway alone over a million into and around downtown on any given day, and that isn't including buses and streetcars. The Gardiner carries many times less. Most traffic on the Gardiner is actually through traffic, not traffic going to the core, so that alters figures dramatically. Very few people actually commute by car into the downtown core itself. Canterbury Tail talk 11:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not a traffic measurement per se, it's a measure of 'central area person trips'. I'll rewrite.  ʘ alaney2k ʘ  (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: One just has to wonder with David Miller's very clear anti-car tear-down-the-Gardiner idealism if the statistics are facts, or looked at in just such a way as to produce those numbers. The Gardiner carries a lot of through traffic, but that is still traffic passing through downtown that would otherwise be on Lake Shore. On top of that there is any cars that make use of it at some point on their journey home. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 18:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The discussion of demolishing/rebuilding/replacing the Gardiner predates Miller by about 20 years into the 80s. While I'm sure WTRC likes the comparison for their purpose, I see no reason to dispute it. The subway is packed into and out of downtown, and has a huge capacity of people per square foot. Also, the Bloor did not exist when the Gardiner was first opened. The GO trains are huge nowadays. While the Gardiner has been at capacity since the 1960s, and not expanded, and the city has grown and employment downtown expanded. And they tore down the eastern section, too. I have no idea about the through traffic vs in/out issue.  ʘ alaney2k ʘ  (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is ref 29 reliable? 

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message: Seems like an oversight that she is not mentioned once in this article. This was a national news event but you wouldn't even know from the page. Can someone add more information on her? --209.145.113.7 (talk) 03:41, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because that would be WP:UNDUEWEIGHT. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That and she didn't actually manage to get it onto the Gardiner so it has nothing to do with this. Plus we don't promote stupidity. Canterbury Tail talk 12:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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message: Gardiner Expressway & Lake Shore Boulevard East Reconfiguration and Lake Shore Boulevard East Project Mapsax (talk) 00:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  East end removal