Talk:Paisley, Renfrewshire

message: Currently Paisley suffers many problems common to towns throughout central Scotland. In the last 10 years, the development of out-of-town retail sites, in combination with a poorly-planned town centre pedestrianisation and an unfathomable one-way road system around the town centre, has led to a loss of many retail outlets and poor access to the town centre. The once bustling High Street of Paisley is a shadow of its former self. This is a result of unimaginative local government-sanctioned town planning. Many of the town's citizens feel that they deserve better.
Whilst I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment, this is clearly opinionated. Perhaps someone more familiar with the town's current situation than I am could rewrite it? - Hayter 16:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Town Centre

message: Paisley, Renfrewshire → Paisley – The Scottish town is by far the most notable Paisley. Indeed, the others are named after it. Have a look at the long list of links which are currently pointing to the disambiguation page: as far as I can see they are all referring to the Scottish town. Also, look at how many pages link to the Scottish town article compared to the others: by far the most significant. The other Paisleys are all villages.
===Survey===
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*Support --Mais oui! 04:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support --Mais oui! 04:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The related :Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Paisley constituencies has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion  on the Categories for Discussion page. 
--Mais oui! 09:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFD 

message: Am I right in thinking that the Scottish Rocks no longer play in Braehead? I have been in the Kelvin Hall Sports Centre recently and all ove the place is Scottish Rocks? Any objections to removing the info about the Rocks? Kyro (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Scottish Rocks

message: I'd like to again bring up what the primary topic for "Paisley" should be (with, I think, Paisley, Scotland v. Paisley (design) v. Paisley (disambiguation) being the finalists). To start, lets look at the three sources of statistical information mentioned at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?: incoming wikilinks from Special:WhatLinksHere, Wikipedia article traffic statistics (http://stats.grok.se/), and Google searches (web, news, scholar, and book).
*For wikilinks, in my opinion it is clear that Paisley, Scotland is much more common.  There are lots of geographic articles that use it, and a good number of biographical articles as well.
*For google (all of the following were done from a USA-based IP address with cookies blocked):
**a cookie-free web search prioritizes Paisley (design) over the place name; by comparison, a cookie-free web search of "Madras" (another city/town that's the fifth largest in its country), priorities Chennai over Madras (cloth)
**a book search returns a mixture of people's names (Ian P, William P, and the place name
**a blog search suggests three "related blogs" (one by someone named Paisley, one about singer Brad Paisley, and one for the Paisley Daily Express; following those, the design and the country singer seem to dominate
**a news search leads with a quote from the singer, with other Paisley people mixed in; the first Paisley place name at the time of my USA-originated query was for Florida
**a news archive is dominated by Ian the politician
**a scholar search returns surname matches
*the grok.se stats for July 2009 list the design at 14,400, Ian the politician at 9,800, "Paisley, Scotland" at 400, and "Paisley" at 10,000; the results for January 2008 were proportionally similar
I could probably come up with a preliminary conclusion about these results, but that would be jumping the gun.  I'd be interested in seeing what others would add to the list of statistics, including non-USA google searches and other search engines.   Thanks. 72.244.203.120 (talk) 23:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary topic 

message: There's nothing in this article to establish its own notability, and what limited content there is would be better handled here, perhaps in a "Suburbs" section. Rodhullandemu 01:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of [[Gockston]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I propose that Thornly Park be merged into Paisley. The former is an unsourced stub of little potential, concerning a small area of the town. Any information on it can comfortably be accommodated in the Paisley article. Jellyman (talk) 09:22, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The Thornly Park article does not pass Wikipedia:Notability since there is insufficient non-trivial coverage of the topic in reliable media. Rincewind42 (talk) 03:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Agreed.  Merge.  KDS4444Talk 11:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: MOVED to Paisley, Renfrewshire, disambig page now at Paisley. Per discussion, new title satisfies naming convention; and without a clear primary topic, a disambig page at previous title was the better choice. Hadal (talk) 14:17, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the title "Paisley" point to the town in Scotland or should it point directly to the fabric pattern?  KDS4444Talk 11:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Paisley isn't a namespace. It's the article title, and the namespace for that article is alternatively "main" or "article". --Redrose64 (talk) 15:37, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I was bold and fixed it. Wugapodes (talk) 04:45, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Agree with Dicklyon - those !votes above should be disregarded. The default position is a dab page, only if either of the 2 candidates can be proved to be absolute majority subject can one of them claim to be WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:21, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

text: Noting that the proposer has changed his proposal to Paisley, Renfrewshire, with this edit. I reiterate my support for that move. I still oppose primary topic status for the cloth pattern, and instead support making Paisley a disambiguation page. RGloucester  — ☎ 03:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

text: No such larger town exists (smaller towns do), which is why that exception does not apply. RGloucester  — ☎ 14:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Just saying: I am pleased with how all this turned out.  Not the way I might have initially wished, perhaps, but still, in the end, a nice thing, a good thing, and a right thing.  KDS4444 (talk) 11:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for saying so.  Dicklyon (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Should this title point to the Scottish town or the fabric pattern? 

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message: The usage of "Paisley" is under discussion, see Talk:Paisley (design)#Requested move 14 November 2019. Crouch, Swale (talk)  22:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[Paisley]]"