Talk:Rogers TV

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This page was obviously written as propaganda for Rogers, referring to shows nobody watches as "popular," and that it's "only available on cable," and a "major selling point."
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*	I try to keep the NB stuff accurate. and the only on cable is False as there is one of the stations that broadcasts over UHF-26 in St. Andrew's NB. It is a RTV Affiliate with a very involved community group although to uses its CHCT-TV call leters for most shows.---thee17
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To help keep you accurate (thee17):  CHCT-TV is licensed to St. Andrews Community Channel Inc. CHCT-TV is not and never has been affilated with RTV or Rogers Communications in any way. All CHCT-TV community progrogramming is public access and produced by volunteers.---TV26  
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The Rogers people who keep filling this page with Rogers-friendly propaganda need to understand something: "Rogers Television" does not allow anybody who is not a Rogers employee to have a show of their own. NOBODY is allowed to have their own show. Got it? There is no "Wayne's World" with Rogers, and the programs are just normal commercial fare wannabes, like the Daytime show.
"Rogers Television" is the dead remains of what used to be the "PUBLIC-ACESS" channel. The fact that Rogers does not allow people to have their own shows is important, to say the least. If the Rogers people want to keep lying and suggest otherwise, PLEASE tell us what these programs are. Otherwise, please stop lying.
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*	That is not correct Shows lik Enfamil nine months is completely public access, Fun-zai is a compleatly puplic access, so are all the TV Bingos, Rogers always takes suggestions for new shows, expeccially if it is something different, and haveing a sponcer always helps as well And some stations are still all community produced in the smaller class 3 stations..
Also using that wording "broke the law" and "illegal" and "charged with" while the proceeding of a court case was not completed successfully, opens you up to a conviction of "Criminal Defamation" which carries a $100,000 fine or imprissionment of upto 2 years so for you benifit i suggest you select your words better---thee17
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I'm glad to finally meet the one who is defending Rogers. Eventually, I hope that the people who run wikipedia will clean this propaganda page up, once and for all, because that person is suing Rogers, they did censor him, they did admit it, and the lawsuit is real, and before the courts, and can be verified.
Now, for your points: Enfamil is not public-access, as it was hosted by Erica Ehm, and is now hosted by Amy Sky, and, bearing the name "Enfamil" means it is owned by Enfamil. You have no understanding of what "public-access" is if you're talking about the Bingo shows. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, and being polite as to not wipe out your poorly-written submissions, but no, there is not one single show on the entire Rogers system that is "public-access." If there is, PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK TO THE SHOW, THANK YOU. As for that person being jailed? I know libel law, and you don't. If one publishes such things "without cause, reason, or explanation," it is libel. That person does have cause, reason, and explanation, and has court documents to back it up. If you think that person is going to jail, please contact Rogers and see what happens. Learn how to spell, while you're at it.
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I just fixed the page again, this time removing your nonsense about volunteer-governed programming. I guess we can just keep coming back and fixing it, back and forth...I'm curious as to what you're getting from them. Do you have a show of your own? Where can I watch it? Please provide a link to your Rogers show, thanks.
NEVER MIND...I just looked up your Funzai show: http://www.4frontfilmservices.com/pjctsimprov06.htm
It is run by a Rogers employee: "Thomas is a professional stage performer who has performed with theatrical groups throughout the Maritime region in comedy, Shakespeare, and more. He’s branched into directing, and currently co-hosts First Local on Rogers Television."
Like I told you, there are no Rogers "public-access" shows run by non-Rogers employees. If there were, then everybody could argue to have one, too. Yes, you can "propose a show," at the Rogers website, but that's only so they can legally say they consider them. It's like writing to a politician–he'll read it, but he won't do anything.
Don't you wonder why that there are no shows in Toronto by non-Rogers employees? Don't you think a film student or a comedian might want to make a name for themselves and get on TV? Do you think anybody wants to watch Rogers terrible and boring shows about cars, money, baby care, and movie reviews? Of course not! Why do you stand up for Rogers? I don't understand.
HERE, again, is your "compleatly puplic" show: http://www.rogerstelevision.com/option.asp?lid=12&rid=19&sid=2403
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Scott Thomas is not a Rogers employee, just a volunteer with 3 shows of his own. And the series was produced by improv corp. Another example is The Fishing Musicians, and Acadieman. Where in each of those cases the show was made by a third party and aired on Rogers.
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He is an employee. He is part of the staff. I know for a fact that the regular hosts of Rogers properties are paid. This is hardly a man off the street with his own show.
Why is Rogers shoving their imitation car, money, computer, movie review, Regis and Kelly and baby shows down our throats from Toronto?
Why do you think that is good? The "public-access" community channeI was created to give ordinary people ONE PLACE to have a say on the TV that didn't have to go through the whole corporate trip of big money, beautiful people, focus groups, and IMITATING whatever is popular. Don't you think that's a good idea? Don't you think ordinary folks should be able to have ONE CHANNEL on which to speak, if only in their own communities? Well?
I just don't understand people like you at all. I guess you don't believe in free speech. I guess you think everything has to be about the "pros" and "celebrities." Please, explain why you think Rogers is so great. Tell me why people in Barrie should have to watch all that Toronto junk, and why nobody in Toronto can have a wacky "man on the street" show, and why Toronto has to import one from BARRIE so people in Toronto can see how wacky downtown BARRIE looks when the bars close at 2 AM.
Tell me. And, if you can't, please stop turning the Rogers Wikipedia article into something that it isn't, which is to say, propaganda for Rogers. You can say whatever you want about how big they are, but when it comes to the community channel, Rogers stole it and ruined it. Any Wikipedia article should point that out, and point out how BAD Rogers Television is. Crowewiki 08:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: It is hard sometimes to provide sources for some stuff that you actually know something about. And a lot of stuff has been posted here that has been incorrect. Thee17 16:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your points are understandable, the problem is, it doesn't do anyone any good if the article contains content that looks more like an argument than an encyclopedia entry. It loses all credibility with serious readers and contributors. At the very least, all statements (uncited or not) should be phrased so they do not merge facts with conclusions on how those facts should be interpreted. As far as distinguishing fact from opinion that's what this talk page is for. dr.ef.tymac 17:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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message: Sourced of partnership are needed. Thee17 (talk) 03:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
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