Talk:Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)

message: SNUGGUMS, regarding this and this, if it were a different character, I'd agree. But in the case of Belle, the beautiful description is a core aspect of the film. All the townspeople consider Belle to be beautiful, and the only reason that Gaston shows any interest in Belle is because she is beautiful. Not just beautiful, but the most beautiful woman in town, according to Gaston and the rest of the townspeople. Furthermore, her name literally translates to "a beautiful girl or woman, especially the most beautiful at a particular event or in a particular group."  Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of name and role, "beautiful" is an opinion, and it's inappropriate to insert unattributed personal views within an article. This isn't supposed to be a Beauty and the Beast/Disney fansite, and inserting that without attribution comes off as in-universe and biased. It wouldn't be so bad if that was used as part of a quote or a statement of what other characters think (i.e. "who is considered beautiful") per WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:59, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for discussions on whether or not Belle is beautiful, this is not a personal opinion issue. Like I stated above, it is a character description issue. Belle being beautiful is a core aspect of the story. This is why I do not understand your viewpoint on this matter. I could easily add WP:Reliable sources for "beautiful" with regard to Belle, but I don't see the point of doing that. I would also hate to have the content be subject to what WP:In-text attribution warns against, which, in this case, would be making it seem that Belle being beautiful is simply the opinion of a lone author or authors. I see the point of describing her as beautiful in the Plot section, for example, because her appearance is literally an aspect of the story. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I heard about what you are talking about, please do not add something about her personality and physical appearance traits (even if her name literally means "beautiful" in French) on Wikipedia, unless any members (especially the screenwriters and the storytellers) that worked on the movie actually said that it is part of the movie's storyline in a reliable source, such as in newspaper articles and official documentaries on any releases of this film. It is still technically a personal opinion issue, as it is not really a fact, unless it is sourced reliably. Please know that Wikipedia is obviously more strict and different than on Disney Wiki and Beauty and the Beast Wiki. Thank you! - Truly yours, Aubreeprincess (talk) 21:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The title of the work is Beauty and the Beast and are descriptive of the main characters. The point of the story and a contrast. Hardly needs a reference that someone described as a beauty is beautiful. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:31, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Describing Belle as beautiful 

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message: This movie was nominated by AMPAS as the best, not only (1) overall, but also for its (2) sound and (3) score, including (4) certain original songs - - more than one song, but only one may win the prize. That's four categories, not five. Why does the "Accolades" section tell of its completing "the big five Oscar sweep"? Mucketymuck (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Big Five Oscar sweep is in reference to The Silence of the Lambs winning Five Oscars. Perhaps the sentence can be changed to "It lost the Best Picture award to The Silence of the Lambs[112] which became the third film to complete the big five Oscar sweep." Crboyer (talk) 03:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
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