Talk:List of English words of Portuguese origin

message: It seems to me that Banana is one, but im not sure...
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Banana is not originally from Portuguese, but rather from Afrikan languages. It's already listed properly under English words of Afrikan origin. Jagripino 15:59, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Banana

message: Mandarin is a disambiguation page. Does the entry apply to any specific meaning? Flowerparty talk 16:20, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mandarin

message: The same word exists in Spanish. Is there evidence that English borrowed it from Portuguese, rather than from Spanish? FilipeS 15:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Negro"

message: I don't see why this word should be here. The term from which it derives is written in Spanish (palo is the Spanish cognate for the Portuguese word pau). Moreover, the term in itself is contradictory because afaik the spanish term means trunk or wood  (while the Portuguese cognate does have, in Brazil, the secondary meaning of tree). Nevertheless, I have never heard pau-de-vaca or seen it in any literary work or dictionary (not that I pose to have an enormous culture, but I am a History teacher, an amateur writer, a translator and an avid reader). Yes, my 1973 edition of Aurelio is outdated and the word could have come into use since then -- but, seriously, would it have time to become a loanword into the English language in only 30-odd years? (More, pau-de-vaca is not on the Portuguese Wikipedia, not on the Spanish one either.
Another interesting thing about this word is that it is obviously a fabrication,  a pun that some native Portuguese speaker is carrying on. Why? Because the portuguese equivalent to cow-tree would be pau-vaca, not pau-de-vaca. In Romance languages, the preposition de acts a genitive/possessive marker, therefore, pau-de-vaca would mean cow's tree. Considering that pau is also a widespread slang for "penis" in the Portuguese language you may be getting closer to what I mean... ;-) Not that it makes sense, pau-de-touro ("bull's...) would make more. jggouvea 23:23, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cow-tree

message: I have capitalized each word as per the general convention in a dictionary entry. --Bhadani 12:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalized

message: I'm removing Alcatraz from this list. Like many of the surrounding localities (including San Francisco, Tiburon, and Sausalito), it was named by the original Spanish settlers, not by Portuguese speakers. --Largo Plazo 16:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alcatraz 

message: I am not sure of the terminology in English, but I think "cow-tree" is not an "English word of Portuguese origin" but a "calque" (a phrase in a language that echoes or evokes an original phrase in another language due to bad translation or translation by analogy). If we count "cow-tree" there may be many more words in many language lists... jggouvea 02:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cow-tree

message: --CopyToWiktionaryBot 13:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007-02-25 Automated pywikipediabot message 

message: Almost all the words of this article has spanish origin, not portuguese. the spanish influence over english language is derived from centuries, in many continents, over all in USA, Canada, Gibraltar, Belize, and caribbean sea, while the portuguese language doesnt had nothing to see with english..... just learn with history´s books!
other things are the huge similarities between spanish and portuguese.--Venerock (talk) 06:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: spanish