Talk:Mugen (game engine)

message: I was attempting to revise the wording of the last sentence in the History section to remove the '1 Vs. 1' specification. With the addition of 'Exhibition Matches', '2 vs. 1' and '2 vs. 2' matches are now a common occurrence.
However, every attempt to edit was blocked as possible vandalism.
Would someone please take a look at updating the sentence to end in something akin to:
"... on matches played between CPU-controlled participants using the engine"?
Thanks!
   -S.Y 31st July 2014  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4:0:266:C8B6:51DA:FF79:A4DF (talk) 23:43, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unable to Edit 

message: This article is not a repository for forum links. Only put official mugen related links please. Acglass (talk) 15:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links one more time 

message: is it possible to change the title on mugen which reads "M.U.G.E.N"?--71.194.154.216 (talk) 21:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  mugen title? 

message: Let's try to follow the "Not a Forum" rules this time, okay? Blacklist 23:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive #2 Up

message: 87.161.163.186 (talk) 17:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not notable, plus see the comment below. Blacklist (talk) 06:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: A viewing of the whois database entry for www.elecbyte.com reveals that the domain was registered 1, June 1999 and will expire on 1, June 2008. Therefore the name's registration has not lapsed and been re-registered by someone else.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.211.224 (talk) 14:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the domain was registered by someone other than Elecbyte. Blacklist (talk) 04:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Uh... they mean Engine clones, not Developer clones. Blacklist (talk) 04:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Validity of new Elecbyte.com 

message: Boy oh boy, this page is hard to read. It's like I asked a local weeaboo to explain M.U.G.E.N. to me... But, I asked Wikipedia to! This should be written more like an encyclopedic article and not a readme or something. Honestly, I don't even see a reason to have maybe even 2/3 of the content that is here; the history of the program may interest some, but is this the place for it?
The characters section is particularly narrative also. I don't see a need for the arbitrary backstory to the characters. The bit about Kung Fu Man should be only about as long as its first paragraph.
:Suave Dude: He at the very least has a troop of minions at his disposal (some of which get defeated in KFM's introduction storyboard), and has the Mountainside Temple as his own personal hideout. The full extent of his forces or resources however is unknown and never disclosed or discussed.
What on earth?! We're not in a fantasy land.
It doesn't seem necessary to be so specific about the Maxine and Dragon Claw characters. Rather, a summary making the key points could get rid of both sections by mentioning that people commission characters, though few are completed (then citing a source), and that characters, noteably Dragon Claw, have been merchandised (cite source). I don't care how some guy paid a ludicrous amount of money for a girl version of himself he can use to whomp on people with, and I don't care that the Dragon Claw guy doesn't make enough money to cover his "hosting and such". Note the inappropriate tone in the phrase "and such".
The whole file structure section should be deleted. It's not useful information for the article, and it is WAY too long. If anyone cares about it, they probably can look at the files themselves, along with the documentation.
This article is longer than the entire article for Adobe Photoshop. Photoshop has had much more impact on things than mugen...
Other issues include:
:[towards the end of the article...] ... distribution of updates, or as in the case of Mugen Institute a possible loss of revenue. 
Things like this are all over this article, making it hard to read through a line in one go.
:Although most of the authors have not registered copyrights pertaining to the code or graphics used to create the content ...
It hasn't been a law that you have to register copyrights (in the US) for years.
:Much like hosting a videogame FAQ it is considered in violation of the author's copyright unless permission to host is given. [...] Typically it is argued that legal action is not sought for the misuse of most M.U.G.E.N creations because the origin of sprites and sounds has been ripped from commercial games even though the program code is crafted from scratch or templates.
Linking to something like derivative works could cut this chunk out. The same idea goes for many other parts of the article.
:The debate ranges from original design by authors as well as derivative works or fan art often taken directly from previously released video game characters. A violation of ...
The MUGEN article isn't a place to re-explain copyright laws. Let Wikipedia do it. Also, that first part's a fragment, and a very confusing one, at that.
Summary:
Too many words. Little relevant content. Informal tone, syntax, and constructs. Needs more commas.
69.65.232.61 (talk) 23:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: In response to these problems, I have taken the liberty of cleaning up the article to make it concise and more encyclopedic. Grawgzor (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be the first to say while the article does indeed need work...that was a terrible edit on your part.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Given he's Elecbyte's other character I fail to see the relevance, and the forum citations seem very few but relevant to the subject as far as temporary goes. Either way you have two editors objecting to your "trimming", I'd suggest not doing it a third time.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: If you go through the problems with each section in greater detail, I may go along with your revision. Oore (talk) 23:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I say that the File Structure and noteworthy engine content gets axed, but getting rid of 90% of the article that was originally edited by Grawzor is not the answer. Blacklist (talk) 05:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't axe the whole sections either really, though File Structure really could be redone overall. TESTP additionally needs some mention in there, though it's a shame the only citable info about them is long gone save for their readme files.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 10:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bloated, filled with non-notable information. 

message: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mugen
Apparently, dictionary.com refers to mugen as infinity.
This seems to make sense because of mugen's limitless customizable features.  Maybe this is what Elecbyte meant when he made the engine.
~DHB  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.200.143 (talk) 04:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The real meaning of MUGEN?

message: I think this quote puts it nicely, "Wikipedia is not a depository for unvalued websites with bunch of google adverts. Please do not add website that hasn't got encyclopedic character."
If any of you Anons continue to add this link (and vandalize other links in the process), I will not hesitate to report you for breaking the 3 revisions rule. Blacklist (talk) 06:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: mugencharacters.ucoz.com

message: ... What is the best place to get MUGEN (that's not in Japanese)? And, how in the heck to you upload Characters for MUGEN?--66.205.143.105 (talk) 02:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excuse Me... 

message: I've noticed Kaos Machina tried to revert the vandalizing, but I think he picked the wrong version, as that version didn't really make all that sense either, so I've taken the liberty to actually revert it to the first un-vandalized version. Excuse me if I reverted it to a wrong version though.
--GaryCXJk (talk) 01:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted to an older, unvandalized version 

message: I don't trust this site because a lot of major MUGEN sites despised Vyx's doings to the MUGEN engine. He's doing a High Res, no, Hi-Definition MUGEN with he always sells it in the internet WITHOUT the original author's permissions. It's really against the rules of the fighting game engine and therefore, it's not a good thing to the MUGEN community. That link should be deleted or else.
--Blackgaia02 (talk) 14:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Went ahead and removed the link. No need to promote unlawful actions here. Blacklist (talk) 20:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.brokenmugenhr.com is untrustworthy 

message: The current references are quite weak, but these are possibilities:
*Blend Games
*Games Radar
There are some other links suggested in the AfD, but they don't appear to be WP:RS. Marasmusine (talk) 17:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Might I suggest starting development over for the article on a subpage for it? Such as M.U.G.E.N/redux?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources to be implemented 

message: AND please, we had enough of Vyx's untrustworthy works. Someone please BAN him in Wikipedia and remove it!
--Blackgaia02 (talk) 9:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.brokenmugenhr.com is there AGAIN

message: The links have recently been edited to remove certain items. We all know there are litereally thousands of possible mugen related links of websites with content downloads and forum communitites. I am listing the reasons for each of the current links found here, please discuss if you disagree.
I should also note that all the sites listed below are over 3 years old since the person who was editing the links wrote that Random Select and Infinity Mugen Team were each less than 2 years old.
* Elecbyte - the new Elecbyte Site, although only 2 months old, is currently upgrading the Mugen engine so this is relavent
* Mugen Fighters Guild - is the most active Mugen community by the age of their forum, the number of daily active users and post count.
* Infinity Mugen Team - is the second largest Mugen forum by daily active members as well as a large amount of original content downloads, news, database and special interest projects. Infinity aslo runs multi language forums including English, Spanish, Portugues and Japanese.
* Mugen Infantry - has historically been one of the most activy communitites which also provides a current database and a library of original content downloads as well.
* MugenBR - is also an active mugen community and the only one on the list that is not based in the United States. The contribution of the Brazilian community is important to the history of mugen as well as the original download content currently available at this site.
* Random Select -  contains additional large amounts of original content such as those listed above as well as the only site hosting all the previous version of mugen, including the dos version, linux version and various windows versions.
Acglass (talk) 17:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Link (revisited)

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message: Several single-purpose accounts have been edit-warring to insert a reference to mugenarchive.com into the lead of this article. I have offered a compromise that was acceptable to , that is, mentioning the site specifically in the Customisation section and sourcing to itself per WP:SELFSOURCE. Nevertheless the campaign to insert the relatively unimportant site into the lead continues with no attempt to accept a compromise. That needs to be seen against the background of an earlier removal of mention of a dozen other similar sites from the article, including the Official Elecbyte website.
I conclude that this is a campaign conducted by fans of the mugenarchive.com site to promote their site. It's obvious that CobraSA and his meatpuppets are on a single agenda.
I therefore propose that we blacklist mugenarchive.com and remove all mention of the site to avoid future disruption. We can always discuss the other sites to give readers an idea about the number of characters created by users. --RexxS (talk) 16:14, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of mugenarchive.com in Wikipedia 

message: Hey can I add some images from my mugen like goku vs touma from Sagat stage or the training room? 950CMR (talk) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Umm 

message: The current potential M.U.G.E.N. successor.
I.K.E.M.E.N. started off as an open-source reimplementation of the M.U.G.E.N. engine compatible with not only all of it's previous resources, but coming with it's own set of unique features, almost all of which were never released on any of the latest M.U.G.E.N. builds.
While the last build of the original I.K.E.M.E.N. was posted in 2017, it was succeeded by I.K.E.M.E.N. Plus, which in turn was succeeded by I.K.E.M.E.N. Go recently, which is a "Google Go Programming Language" reimplementation of I.K.E.M.E.N. Plus that is still maintained by the original authors.
More information on the Wiki page:
https://mugen.fandom.com/wiki/I.K.E.M.E.N
11:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  I.K.E.M.E.N. Go 

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