Talk:White Witch

message: There are numerous errors of editing present in the character history. Some items are repeated numerous times and other similar inconsistencies.
Example:
while the Witch apparently originates from Charn (explained, possibly, by the inter-world travel which we know could and did occur in many ways), her ancestry is not disclosed further and we can assume that the rumour first stated in "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" is the truth. Jadis is a descendant of a long line of kings and queens of Charn, who started out good but grew worse and worse over the generations.
She doesn't "apparently" orginate from Charn, she definitely originates from Charn. The books "The Magicians Nephew" states this explicitly. As does this very article!
Then in the same paragraph:
Jadis is a descendant of a long line of kings and queens of Charn, who started out good but grew worse and worse over the generations.
Then later in another paragraph:
in "The Magician's Nephew," it is explained that she was the Empress and last inhabitant of another world which contained a great and ancient city known as Charn inhabited by the Jinn. Jadis spoke "the Deplorable Word," which when spoken properly would destr
This shows how we have repititions in the history. I propose that only one paragraph discusses Charn and how she undoubtedly originated there. 
This whole section seems to me badly organised in general. I think it should be written chronologically by first dicussing her origins in "The Magician's Nephew" then go onto the events in LWW.
The following paragraph especially seems bizarre. It concerns one of the most important events in her history (her death). Yet it starts off "The White Whitch's worst deed". Also, who are we to say what her worst deed was? The sentence doesn't even really make sense. Was killing Aslan her worst deed, or the killing of every denizen of Charn? Why start off the sentence in such a non-sensical fashion? Also, why capitalise deeper magic and deep magic? If it is a phrase directly quoted that needs such capitalisation it should be enclosed in quotation marks.
The White Witch's worst deed, aside from uttering the Deplorable Word, was when she killed Aslan on the Stone Table, instead of Edmund. However Aslan came back to life due to Deeper Magic than the Deep Magic, and while the Witch was fighting in battle, Aslan leaped on top of her, mauling her to death and ending her reign of terror.
--SamF 10:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character history, repitition and inconsistency 

message: There seems to be an identical article to this one under the name "Jadis". Could anyone explain why this is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.142.132 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jadis

message: There are two conflicting theories appearing in the article about the origin of the name (French vs Turkish).  Does anyone know of any references to settle the argument?  While there are some superficial references in the series to a vaguely Islamic culture, (clearly introduced by Lewis to lend a sense of the exotic and non-Christian), he was also professionally familiar with French imaginative literature.  On the whole I find the French explanation more likely, but I don't have a source. Elphion (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't say for certain, but the fact that Aslan's name is almost certainly derived from Turkish (arslan lion) makes a Turkish origin for the name Jadis at least plausible. Thefamouseccles (talk) 02:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the Name 'Jadis'

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Narnia1i.jpg

message: The paragraphs elaborating in detail the various creatures found in the army of the White Witch in various adaptations seem particularly pointless.  In there any reason to keep this detail?  I would be in favor of axing the entire section. Elphion (talk) 20:58, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catalog of her army 

message: "Jadis, commonly known during her rule of Narnia as the White Witch, is the main antagonist of The Magician's Nephew and The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe in C. S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia series"
That sentence doesn't make any logical or grammatical sense to me.  This witch character is the antagonist of The Lion, Witch and Wardrobe? --24.85.86.45 (talk) 15:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rephrased it for clarity, though it unfortunately pushes the bolded "White Witch" to the second sentence. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 00:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

text: It reads a lot better now, and white witch does not look bad in the second sentence.P0PP4B34R732 (talk) 01:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 01:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  first sentence 

message: Was she supposed be descended from Lilith, the mythical first wife of Adam?--Jondel (talk) 16:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a short paragraph on Lilith in "Origins". -- Elphion (talk) 03:41, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lilith

message: I checked the one reference of those listed in this section, and it didn't corroborate the assertion in the section. The language of the other assertions, and the nature of the references cited convinced me that the claims that Lewis based the character on other characters were extrapolated from the references--ergo Original Research. So I removed the entire section. Tapered (talk) 22:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Conception 

message: In the animated version it is said that Jadis originally was "the emperors executioner". Perhaps some kind of regent in Narnia.
:: Jadis had claim to all "traitors" in Narnia.  Mrs Beaver made a remark that this made her "the Emperor's executioner".Romomusicfan (talk) 23:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jadis - originally a servant of the emperor. 

message: Schakel is described within enWiki and elsewhere as a Tolkienist and Lewis scholar. Both these terms and extension (independent or noted scholarships) are used to describe non-academic/fandom especially 
I suggested a link to Hope.edu as a way of confirming...
Relevant fragment below.
"As Lewis scholar Peter Schakel points out, the notes' description of Jadis and the Queen of Underland (the main antagonist of The Silver Chair) "states incorrectly that the Queen of Underland is an embodiment of Jadis". Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 20:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally, we should have an article on Schakel, which we could then wlink to.  Failing that, a better solution than just inserting an external link in the text would be to add a ref to Schakel's name.  I think a link to  (Britannica.com) would be a better ref for his status as a Lewis scholar: it gives more information and includes a link to his Hope College page. -- Elphion (talk) 17:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference that Schakel is Lewis Scholar