Talk:Rough Riders

message: This entire article has serious problems. It seems to have been written with the intent of servicing Roosevelt's internet fan base rather than providing an objective historical perspective. The writing is crass, poorly worded and confusing. Save the legends, mythology and hagiography for the History channel. On wikipedia it is best to stick with facts that are appropriate for an encyclopedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.21.138 (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: this is a clear violation of the wiki non-commercialization rule!
this site shameless exploits TR's name - shame on them!
Site is http://www.teddyroosevelt.com TeddyRoosevelt.com
SimonATL 22:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um. Actually, I don't see anything particularly "commercial" about the site you excised. It has advertising, but many hobbyist sites -- including my own -- do that simply to help pay the bills. They don't appear to be peddling anything themselves. On the other hand, the site DOES appear to be pretty useless, with mostly dead-end links to empty pages and questionable information on other pages (esp the "Teddy Bear" story, which I know something about), so I agree with removing the link. --Michael K. Smith 21:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed link to teddyroosevelt.com site

message: I'll start working on this as time permits SimonATL 17:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This article needs updating with the excellent b/w photos available on the internet

message: I've removed this entence from the intro, as it seems dubious (as well as unsourced), and is in apparent contradiction with the following paragraph, which says the name comes from Buffalo Bill Cody's traveling show. MayerG 04:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "The name was inspired by a play written by Christ late in the 16th century."

message: I just found this amazing image of a wholesaler in Seattle in 1900 advertising a whiskey called "Roosevelt's Rough Riders Rye". Not sure if this belongs in the article, but there is nothing else about it anywhere on the Internet, and it certainly is at least an interesting curiosity. - Jmabel | Talk 19:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roosevelt's Rough Riders Rye 

message: Anyone interested, please feel free to cleanup the text below. The following section of Early Formation and History needs to be re-written:
The war was not easy at all they ever not hard was done largely by Roosevelt, and resulted in a widely varied force consisting of seasoned ranch hands, Pawnee scouts, Ivy League athletes, cowboys, policemen, and east-coast polo players, among others who represented a broad cross-section of American society.
Permanentblue UTC: Friday, October, 31, 2008 - 20:43:19  —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup of Early Formation and History section needed 

message: First, you say "The United States army was weakened and left with little manpower after the Civil War roughly 30 years prior." What does that mean. "after the Civil war roughly 30 years prior."???
Second, you never say when the cavalry began. You say that they were raised for the Spanish American war... as if they knew it was coming! They were there before hand, and you never specify when. 
I didn't even read on after finding that. Please fix.
99.7.210.0 (talk) 00:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 things 

message: I've a primary source letter written by TR about their travel back home after San Juan Hill.  Its very detailed and explains more thoroughly the terrible conditions his men were left in on their return from San Juan Hill (he writes as if everything has broken down and they've been abandoned with no transportation, clothing, decent food, or medical care)...  If someone, more able than I, could expand here, I think its important information if you'll take a look at what he wrote: http://www.shapell.org/manuscript.aspx?theodore-roosevelt-deprivations-suffered-by-rough-riders-after-san-juan-hill
Aside from this, I find the last sentence of the first paragraph in this section to be written in a confusing manner, sort of tacked on an not integrated:
"Everyone received fresh food and most were nourished back to their normal health.[2]:129"
LFevas (talk) 09:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Return Home Section

message: Two photos of the Rough Riders are shown in the article: one with a wider angle showing more soldiers and Roosevelt without a hat, the other showing fewer soldiers and Roosevelt with a hat. The caption gives an original title of "Colonel Roosevelt and his Rough Riders at the top of the hill which they captured, Battle of San Juan" for the first photo, and refers to the second as being cropped to remove other regiments. However, the title given is the title of the second photo fide the Library of Congress http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/96521936/ , and it is not cropped from the original at the Library of Congress. Although the source of the first photo is said to be the Library of Congress, I cannot find it in their online digital catalog. MayerG (talk) 04:43, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos of Rough Riders 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Rough Riders's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Nofi":
From Battle of El Caney: Nofi, A.A., 1996, The Spanish–American War, 2020, Pennsylvania: Combined Books, 
From Edward Mann Lewis: Nofi, A.A., 1996, The Spanish–American War, 1898, Pennsylvania: Combined Books, 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Rough Riders]] 

message: An early paragraph in the Wikipedia entry about Theodore Roosevelt's Rough Riders states that: "Approximately one fourth of them who received training had already been lost, most dying of malaria and yellow fever. This sent the remaining troops into Cuba with a significant loss in men and morale."  However, at the end of the article, the "muster" notes entry for the Rough Riders does not appear to support such a conclusion. One fourth of the Rough Riders would be more than 250 men. The muster notes refer to 19 enlisted men who died of disease. Is it really possible that such a discrepancy could exist merely among those riders who didn't go to Cuba? Obviously this entry has other unaddressed weaknesses, but I wanted as a newby making a first "talk" comment to bring that one to light.  Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdrlabor (talk • contribs) 21:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties among Roosevelt's Rough Riders before Cuba campaign