Talk:Third Battle of the Aisne

message: This article was nominated for Wikipedia:Version 0.5 I failed this article because it has no references, well-written though, maybe try to combine the 3 Aisne battles together. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 06:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: I've removed the following text from the article because it is suspected to be copy & pasted & it is at least badly written. Placing it here for anyone to decided what to do with it. Cheers, Spawn Man 06:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: The first paragraph contains this passage:  "American soldiers of the 92nd Infantry Division and the 93rd Infantry Division were the first Americans to fight in France, albeit detached from the AEF and under French command.[citation needed]a[›] The 92nd & 93rd would continue to fight under French command for the duration of the war."  Both sentences are incorrect and should be deleted.  Further, it appears neither unit took part in the subject Battle.
The 92d Divisions began sailing on 7 June 1918 and closed at ports in France on 12 July 1918.  Not only does this put their arrival after the subject Battle, but their arrival post-dates initial combat by several other US divisions.  The 92d first served in a quiet sector in the Voges where it received training under French command (as did most US divisions).  During the initial stages of the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, the division (less one regiment fighting under the French) served in the US I Corps as reserve.  In Octotber it fought as part of the US VI Corps, which was under the US First Army.  Upon establishment of the US Second Army, on 12 Octber 1918, the US VI Corps and the 92d Division were placed under that command.  They served under the US Second Army for the remainder of the war.  Source:  http://www.history.army.mil/topics/afam/92div.htm#4
The 93d "Division" was merely a provisional grouping of regiments for movement to France.  It was never intended to be an operational division nor did it serve as such (as far as WWI went).  It never had a permanent division headquarters or divisional troops (artillery, engineers, signal, medical units, etc.) established or assigned.  Upon arrival in theater, the provisional division headquarters was disestablished, and the regiments were intended to serve as lines-of-communications troops (12 white divisions were skeletonized or converted to depot/lines of communications troops in this manner during the war).  Contemporary US Army documents from WWI do not even list a 93d division as being part of the division-level organizations in-theater in WWI.  [Source:  http://www.gwpda.org/docs/statistics/diagrams/d46.gif]  It's individual regiments did arrive in theater early enough to - theoretically - serve in the Third Battle of the Aisne, but they did not take part in that battle.  The four regiments either arrived at the front after the Third Battle of the Aisne, were stationed near the Swiss border at the time, and/or occupied static sectors which took no part in the Battle.  The 369th Regiment was the only one in the line anywhere near the Thrid Battle of the Aisne, but it was in the quiet Afrique Sector, occupying a section 30 miles east of the area of the Battle.
The first American troops to fight in France (about 2500) did so during the Battle of Cambia (Nov-Dec 1917), before any of these two black units arrived in theater.
98.255.89.22 (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the above considerations, I deleted the references to the US 92d and 93d Divisions, as well as the explanatory note. Neither division was involved in the battle and the passages were generally incorrect in all regards.
98.255.89.22 (talk) 05:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  US 92d & 93d Divisions.