Talk:AMD K8L

message: Much of this article seems to be full of marketspeak (which is often misleading and/or nonsensical/non-objective in nature). An addition to the simple changes I made earlier, I've changed:
which will provide better opportunity for diversification at the platform level.
to
making differences in design between different platforms easier.
I believe that's what the writer was intending to say. If the original contributor believes it different, please correct it. --Tene 11:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording

message: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37444
Let's forget what the Inq report is factually correct or not at this moment...
In this report, it reads 
And What the heck is going on here!!? 
P.S. move tag anyone? --202.71.240.18 10:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oops, there goes the K8L codename

message: no consensus to move. Andrewa 16:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

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====Survey - in support of the move====
====Survey - in opposition to the move====
#Oppose.  I'm concerned about moving multiple articles (K8L and K10) based on one interview in one online publication.  Once there are more references to back it up then I'd support moving and merging to fit the situation. --StuffOfInterest 12:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

message: #Oppose.  I'm concerned about moving multiple articles (K8L and K10) based on one interview in one online publication.  Once there are more references to back it up then I'd support moving and merging to fit the situation. --StuffOfInterest 12:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

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* Multiple sources? Okay, that's the Inquirer (Theo Valich) doing a chat (an interview) with the official, where the hell could we find another source for that? :/ Besides, the K8L codenamed was also named first by the Inquirer (http://theinquirer.net/?article=27421) by Charlie Demerjian, yes, it's the Inquirer, and he acknowledged Intel that coined the codename and posted on the Inq but it was removed, and was used by other publications, if you wanted to oppose that, find some articles that dated even earlier than the Inquirer article (http://theinquirer.net/?article=27421) which is on the Thursday 03 November 2005. Thanks. Note: I searched google News achieve, beside the PC World sites, the earliest reports I found was all published by the Inquirer. See here --202.71.240.18 12:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: First, according to Tom Yager at InfoWorld, Torrenza is code name for the Next Gen platform, not K8L. Further, Barcelona is said to be the first chip from this intiative. . K8L was Turion 64, as already mentioned in the article lead. Assuming this is true, most of the article needs transplanted to Torrenza since K8L is likely to have been the Turion 64.
Further, saying that we're going to stick to calling K8L and Barcelona the same thing, there is a lot of current information that exists about the first chip coming soon, Barcelona, but is not in this article. According to reports, it's to be 40% than Cloverton, and will be released mid-2007 . Further, it's supposed to have 128 bit wide SSE, be 80% faster in floating point over Opteron, offer new VM and power management techniques. Dedicated L2 cache per core, and a L3 cache . So, again, this is the biggest revamp since 2003. The first L3, and 65nm process for AMD . Nja247 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Torrenza is not the name for the next-gen microarchitecture.  As noted at Torrenza, it is a socket-compatibility initiative.  Infoworld has it wrong.  The name "K8L" has never been officially acknowledged, and is probably not the actual codename, but sorting out what the actual codename is for the next-gen microarchitecture has been problematic.  There have been suggestions that the codename might just be Barcelona.  Official AMD literature has usually just said "Revision H".  Also, please note that the performance comparison to Clovertown originates with AMD, and cannot yet be independently verified.  — Aluvus t/c 19:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page out of date

message: Arllt3 05:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, yeah! Nobody cares, and nobody supports a move (above), and blah blah... but do redirect "AMD K10" to "Athlon 64 X4" for god's sake! --202.71.240.18 07:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real codename of the "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" is really K10. 

message: Ouch! Isn't that a kind of K11? Go! Start a new page for that!! DAAMIT. --202.71.240.18 11:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Update, the Shanghai is AMD K10.5!! Reference:http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=496&Itemid=35 --202.71.240.18 10:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Montreal

message: Arllt3 20:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who cares if it real or it's just "April Fish"? ;) --202.40.137.202 03:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: oops, this is a follow up, guess the Montreal is better, as http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=480&Itemid=1, Shanghai is an MCM 8-core processor on 45 nm with more L3 cache. OMG --202.71.240.18 10:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Montreal or April fish ? 

message: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456&Itemid=1
Nice going, AMD! 
Live demo of AMD K8L/K10 + R600 + RD790 = cute! 
Hope can give you more cash in Q3. :p --202.40.137.202 03:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Report 

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#Support per above reasoning. ♠ SG →Talk 03:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Add any additional comments:
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
The consensus is for a move to AMD K10. However, that article already exists and covers a similar, if not identical, topic. The two articles should be merged. --Stemonitis 07:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: The AMD K8L and the "AMD Next Generation Processor Technology" mentioned in this article --
is this the same as AMD Next Generation Microarchitecture ?
If so, please merge.
--68.0.124.33 (talk) 23:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Talk:AMD_K8L#Oops.2C_there_goes_the_K8L_codename --Denniss (talk) 01:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge