Talk:The Brady Bunch

message: It is probably unfair to describe the reunion movies as failures, since they brough in high ratings.  It is fair to characterize the attempts at sequel and spinoff series as failures, since none were renewed as they would have been had their ratings been high enough.  Apparently people like their sequels in small doses, at least with reagards to The Brady Bunch.  No matter -- a generation of now middle-aged schoolboys grew up desiring "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!"
:Reworded. Mike H 12:01, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
::That's Marcia, Marcia, MarCIa...
Pacian 06:21, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Reunion movies

message: Can anyone gets a screencap or two for the article? I'd particularly like to see one for the 9-square title card. --FuriousFreddy 23:03, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screencaps? 

message: It says Carol's husband's circumstances were never explained...I'm pretty sure Carol's husband died. I'll watch the DVDs again but I'm quite certain of it...they parodied it on the '90s movies. Mike H 09:01, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
On the original series, Carol's first husband was never mentioned. The girls' did not refer to their birth father once. Sherwood Schwartz has stated many times, that Carol was divorced, but ABC frowned on that, so he decidedly left it ambiguous, by never having him referred to at all!Jude86 16:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She was widowed. Prenigmamann (talk) 14:42, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, although dialog in the pilot meant she must have been either widowed or divorced, the reason she was single with three daughters was never put forth in any way, other than she had been most unhappy about whatever had happened. Meanwhile, in a scene having to do with Bobby and a snap of his mum, it was very strongly hinted that Mike's first wife had died. Throughout the whole run of the series, the other parents were never brought up again in any way. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. She was widowed. Prenigmamann (talk) 01:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Carol's maiden name is Tyler.  It is unknown what happened to Carol's first husband, Mr. Martin.  Schwartz wanted them to be divorced, but ABC did not allow that to be mentioned, and ABC said she was widowed.  There are two conflicting decisions between Schwartz and ABC about what happened to Mr. Martin.  It is unknown what happened to him.  The movies that parodied the series do not reflect the story of the actual series.  108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Carol

message: Does anyone have any links or recollection to a very common rumor that circulated around the late 70s that Susan Olsen had gotten heavily into drugs and other vices and overdosed or committed suicide?  I recall that it was a rumor spread deliberately in the wake of the overdose death of Anissa Jones, a troubled child actress whose Family Affair show had come on the air and went off the air slightly before the Brady Bunch.  Anissa died of a drug overdose under suspicious circumstances in 1976, and her death touched many child stars, including the cast of the Brady Bunch (Eve Plumb, in particular, who appeared on Family Affair at one point, I recall).  The supposed prosocial idea behind the rumor was that it was a way to flag people who didn't care or thought it would be fine if what they thought of as a dysfunctional youngest child (Cindy Brady) got heavily into drugs or whatever and died, and then to do something to help those flagged as so dysfunctional.  It also jives with the interest in prosocial TV shows, "Afterschool Specials", and in particular Eve Plumb's performance and popular reaction to "Dawn: Portrait of a Teenage Runaway", and similar psychological TV dramas from the time, like Linda Blair in "Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic" and Dick van Dyke in "The Morning After".  The story of Anissa Jones is well-known today in part due to it's story being told on websites like Morbidly Hollywood, but as I recall the rumor about Susan Olsen and the tie-in to looking for dysfunctional kids was very well-known as well at the time, late 70s, very early 80s.  -- Allison
::I recall the rumour repeated frequently in the late 1970s in Melbourne, Australia, was that The Brady Bunch only ended when actor Susan Olsen was killed in a car accident, and the cast and makers of the show were too traumatised to continue it without her. I suspect it was spawned by people misremembering and conflating the true story of the death of Anissa Jones - whose Family Affair character I believe served as the model for Cindy Brady's character, wardrobe and hairstyle. Perhaps also us Australian children were at a loss to explain how such a popular and perennial show could have been cancelled when so many us of were avidly watching it after school every day. I do not think the Olsen rumour was conceived deliberately in the wake of Jones' death in a knowing or malicious manner but was like many urban legends where the storytellers actually believe the tale. Asa01 23:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A likely inappropriate rumor to include but it was significant in my memory

message: Yeah, I know I placed some of the trivia regarding the Bradys' house, cars and telephones in the article. But given the recent push to cut trivia from articles, I've decided to remove the information (save for info on the house outside, which is interesting) from the article. Simply put, I no longer believe the trivia — no matter how well-intentioned it was — serves the good of Wikipedia. [[Briguy52748 19:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia being removed

message: An addition here — the thing I'd really like to do is make this a WP:GA, so now I'm making it official — I am going to ask for help in editing this article, cleaning it up as appropriate and then moving it forward for a peer review. With the proper amount of work, I feel really good about this article's chances of becoming a good article. So whatayasay — let's make this a good article and maybe have it featured someday!!! [[Briguy52748 21:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Let's make this a good article

message: i seem to remember there being a different actress playing jan for a couple of episodes. is this true. if it is, it should goin the article somewhere.The mitten man 04:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already in the article under the Brady Bunch Variety Hour section. None of the actors were replaced during the five-year run of the original series. —Whoville 10:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Jan 

message: In a third-season episode, each Brady was given an Indian name by the chief of the tribe, whose grandson had run away but returned at Mike's advice.
*Mike - big Eagle of Large Nest
*Carol - Yellow Flower of Many Petals
*Greg - Stalking Wolf
*Marcia - Willow Dancing in Wind
*Peter - offered "Middle Buffalo" and "Sleeping Lizard" but Peter didn't like either; the chief was never shown getting back to him
*Jan - Dove of Morning Light
*Bobby - Little Bear Who Loses Way
*Cindy - Wandering Blossom
*Alice - Squaw in Waiting
Any place for this in the main article or in the episodes list?
GBC 20:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Brady Braves

message: Recently, I uploaded a modern photo of the Brady House and Dilling Street lamppost to The Brady House section. They lasted seven days before being deleted. One nighttime image was difficult to take, due to poor street and house lighting, but, with enhancement, it may be useful to those interested in what the house looks like today (2008). The other image's quality was superior, yet both were deleted. I'd be happy to attach them again, unless there is objection. Yoho2001 (talk) 02:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brady House photos 

message: I removed the unsourced address for the house used in exterior shots. Even if this address can be sourced, it is a potential privacy issue for the current owners of the house. The article does mention that there have been prior cases of trespassing because the house was recognized. Stan Simmons (talk) 18:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Address of "real" house

message: I like the way the screencaps are taken from poor quality tapes, instead of decent quality DVDs which represent the actual picture quality of the show Retro Agnostic (talk) 09:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please remember this is not a forum for general discussion. I think pointless off the cuff complaints and arbitrary general questions fall under that restriction, IMHO. Anyway, most of this talk page is quite old and of little concequence. Could someone please take the time to archive it? I'll do it eventually otherwise. Njsustain (talk) 08:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Minutiae and old very old discussions

message: I must have missed this, but at some point the fictional famous characters were removed from the "Celebrity Guests" sectioning detailing famous "real and fictional" people that visited the Bradys. Two notable ones that were removed were "Dear Libby" and the son (or was it grandson) of a man killed by Jesse James.
I don't really have a big dog in the fight either way on this one. If I had a preference, I would say that we do include the fictional famous people because, at the moment anyway, the section is not about "guest stars appearing as themselves"...the section is really noting the improbability of a supposedly ordinary family meeting that many famous people in only five years. But, I don't feel that strongly. However, if we are going to leave out the fictional characters, we should change the entire section to be a section on "Guest Stars appearing as themselves". --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 12:27, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of fictional famous visitors? 

message: I'm curious if this deleted scene is worth including in the article. The logic side of my brain says "no", but the emotional side says "yes" because this is just so out of context with the rest of the show.
I remembered seeing this as a kid, yet it apparently disappeared in syndication because I haven't seen it since I was very young. When you really think about it, the scene was so wrong on so many levels. I am just shocked that a show that wouldn't mention divorce would have ever put this scene on the air.
Deleted Brady Bunch scene
--PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 00:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a "deleted" scene as such. I've read somewhere that the scene has indeed shown up in syndicated local broadcasts through the years but was cut now and then, as were other pickup scenes in many episodes, to make room for more local commercials. This can go in the article if it's reliably sourced. It's on the DVD, by the way. Gwen Gale (talk) 08:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I was a Brady Bunch fanatic as a kid. I knew the original episodes so well, each time I saw one of the later syndicated edits, I'd try to remember what scene was missing. In other words, every episode has a "deleted scene"...so I'm not sure this one is worth mentioning. -Jordgette (talk) 09:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless at least some meaningful coverage in reliable sources shows up (rather than YouTube posts and online chats), it wouldn't be. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

text: This wouldn't be considered "citeable" but, for those interested, here's an interesting discussion of this topic. Too bad there's not a citation on the answer to the question, because the answer sounds pretty literate. Discussion of deleted scene - --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 20:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Scene worth including? 

message: I rearranged the structure of the article based on article structures from :Category:FA-Class television articles without removing content. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article structure

message: I'm sort of confused as to why this article is structured the way it is. Why do we have the sections on the location of the house and Reed vs the producers before we even get the show summary? I understand that chronologically, the house may have been selected as part of the planning process, but it goes into too much minutia early in the article (LAPD badges noticed in the movie, etc. ). Its giving sidebars before the important stuff. This stuff would be better suited later in the article.68.105.38.61 (talk) 00:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree! I will switch the overview and production sections. -Jordgette (talk) 01:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequence 

message: Stop changing the description of Robert Reed's discontent. Unless someone can find otherwise, there is nothing in the sources that say he became "increasingly jaded" or was concerned with typecasting. He just thought the writing was sophomoric, and according to the Barry Williams book, he felt that way from the pilot episode to the last episode. There is no indication that he was jaded, let alone increasingly so. -Jordgette [talk] 23:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robert Reed vs, the producers 

message: I noticed the article mentions that these two episoded do not have an epilogue after the 9 square pictures of the cast members cover the screen, but some claim that they remember these two epilogues got lost when the show became syndicated and networks made their own edits.  Does anyone know if these claims are true?  108.0.244.168 (talk) 05:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Honeymoon" and "Greg Gets Grounded" 

message: I saw an interview on TV many years ago, with one of the executives (possibly Sherwood Schwartz); it was part of a documentary of The Brady Bunch, I believe. The executive stated that they cast two groups of children: one consisted of blonde girls and brunette boys; the other consisted of blonde boys and brunette girls. From these two groups, the final set of children would be selected based on the subsequent casting of the parental roles. Since Carol Brady (Florence Henderson) was blonde and Mike Brady (Robert Reed) was brunette, the producers ultimately cast the corresponding set of six child actors. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? In the documentary, they briefly showed a still photo of the "alternate" child actors (three blonde boys and three brunette girls). It was quite jarring to see that photo, after years of watching the six children who eventually did get cast!  (See here: HISTORY OF THE BRADY BUNCH.) Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casting of child actors 

message: I know several references to the Brady Bunch:
* In the Nickelodeon show T.U.F.F. Puppy, an episode featured a spoof of the theme song, but about the agents from TUFF and DOOM living together.
* In another Nickelodeon show, Fanboy and Chum Chum, an episode was named "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha." This is a reference to Jan's famous line, "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia." The names of Marsha and Marcia are pronounced the same way.
* In yet another Nickelodeon show, The Fairly OddParents, Timmy Turner had his mother replaced with Carol Brady when he realized he was the subject of a reality show called "Timmy TV." Cartoon versions of all the Brady Bunch main characters appeared at the end of the episode.
* An episode of a show on the Sprout channel called Jim Henson's Pajanimals was called "Try, Try Again." This is also a Brady Bunch episode.
* And, last but not least, in my made-up show, The Browne Boyz, one character is obsessed with a spoof of the Brady Bunch called "The Grady Gang." 
Just wanted to share my trivia. SalmonCat (talk) 23:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brady Bunch references I know

message: The exterior of the Brady house was also used in establishing shots in an anti-smoking educational film starring Marion Ross and Tom Bosley (AKA Mr. and Mrs. C) that we were shown in junior high health class...PurpleChez (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Brady house 

message: A split of that portion of the article was attempted here, without any talk page discussion per WP:SPLIT, nor any attribution, required per WP:CWW. The content was moved to The Brady Brides (2017), but because of the misleading title (it aired in 1981, and there's no update that I know of that happened in 2017) and the improper split, I took it to AfD. Maybe the split question could be resolved there, but if not, it could be discussed here later. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:58, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:SPLIT of ''The Brady Brides'' into its own article 

message: In a episode of "Monk" Adrian Monk is devastated to find out that his favorite 1970's childhood family show "The Coopers"  having a succesful surgeon with his wife and their two sons and two daugthers plus an adorable dog-in real life had terrible lives..the eldest son married an actress who played his TV sister {they divorced } while the Youngest son become a drug addict and the oldest sister became a best selling tell all book who killed a backmailer who knew her secret..that she had cheated to get a award 35 years after the show ended...after Monk was knocked out by the killer he had a dream sequence in which he played the oldest oldest son who figured out the crime..this was filmed on a recreation of the old Brady Bunch Kitchen and living room set..of The Brady Bunch....show!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.32.94 (talk) 22:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brady Bunch Parody 

message: I have been reverted twice on this page for changing "entitled" to "titled" in reference to the title of an episode. The definition of entitled is to deserve or be given something. The definition of titled is when something is given a name. For example, the article currently says 'in the first-season episode entitled "Lost Locket, Found Locket"'. This is an incorrect use of the word entitled. The episode does not deserve the title "Lost Locket, Found Locket", it has been given the name (titled) "Lost Locket, Found Locket." This is a simple check in the dictionary to verify why I have made the edits. Entitled2Titled (talk) 19:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: While these words have been considered synonymous, from what I've seen checking a few online sites () discussing the differences between the two words, they are preferring titled over entitled when talking simply about naming something, like an episode title. They don't exactly say that it's wrong to use entitled where titled should be used, as literature from decades and centuries ago have used entitled in the context of titled. However, they do point out that entitled is about giving a right, privilege, etc. (and might include a title that is associated with said right, privilege, etc.), as opposed to just a name. With what I've read at these sites, I'm tending to agree with using titled over entitled for this situation, but I'd rather see additional opinions about this. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: They should be "titled." It's clearer/less ambiguous, and it's and one fewer syllable/two fewer letters to have to read. -Jordgette [talk] 23:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I just finished responding to Entitled2Titled's post on my talk page, and then I saw that there is this discussion here. While I encourage you to read all of what I wrote there, here is the most pertinent part of what I said: "Your definition is just one of the definitions for the word. I don't know what dictionary you looked at but apparently it doesn't include all definitions. Other dictionaries not only include other definitions but list this first (which usually means that it's the most common usage of the word) including Wiktionary (an extension of WP): wiktionary:entitled — see also wiktionary:entitle." Basically, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". *Pinging Drmargi. --Musdan77 (talk) 02:21, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why you would object to making the language in the article less ambiguous. There are (according to some) two definitions of "entitled" but only one definition of "titled." -Jordgette [talk] 15:55, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Jordgette, First, I'm wondering if you read the rest of my reply to Entitled2Titled on my talk page? Anyway, how in the world is it "ambiguous"? What makes you think that? Have you heard someone say that they weren't sure what it meant? Everyone should know what it means. Entitled2Titled didn't give that as a reason for the hundreds of changes he's made in the last few weeks (most of which have been reverted by different editors). His only reason is incorrect (as he said "the definition"). Do you know what the prefix en- means? It means "to make". By taking that away is basically dumbing down the English language. --Musdan77 (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You wrote, "I'm tending to agree with using titled over entitled for this situation, but I'd rather see additional opinions about this" and I'm providing an additional opinion like you asked for. Yep, I read it. It's ambiguous because it has two definitions and has the potential to confuse people. Low potential, but potential nonetheless. And, it's just shorter. Unless you can demonstrate that "titled" is not a word, I think we should go with "titled." But feel free to call a RfD on this and waste more people's time. -Jordgette [talk] 15:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're replying to me (although you didn't address me), but you quoted what MPFitz1968 said. If you don't have evidence that there has been confusion about the word then that's not an issue. There are words that have more than two definitions and no one claims they're ambiguous. It's not up to me to "demonstrate that titled is not a word". It's up to the person(s) who want to change a word that has been there for years that another word is an improvement. Let me quote from the first link that MPFitz1968 gave: "When they are synonymous with named or called, there is no substantive difference between entitled and titled. Some people object to this use entitled, but the objection is baseless." But if you think that this discussion is a waste of time then you don't have to be a part of it. –Musdan77 (talk) 02:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, thanks for clearing up any confusion. Even under the premise that both words are equally clear, my opinion is that shorter is better. But my opinion is also that this debate is absurdly trivial. -Jordgette [talk] 02:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entitled vs. Titled 

message: The Premise section of the article currently states "Noticeably absent is any political commentary..."  While I agree the show is largely apolitical, gender equality was a theme in several episodes, including "A Clubhouse Is Not a Home", "The Grass Is Always Greener", "The Liberation of Marcia Brady", and "The Driver's Seat".  "Double Parked" also features the family campaigning against city hall to save a park. Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:33, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political commentary