Talk:Indigenous Australian art

message: Does anyone know what the Colours in aboriginal art mean?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.186.12 (talk) 00:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The colours in traditional  art were based on plant dyes, ochre etc. The colours usually represent 'country'. But you have to take a spatial perspective to understanid it. The colours aren't as important as the haptic nature of the design. Hence, artists that use acrylics tend to go for very brightly coloured paintings. You can contrast this with say the Papunya movement (using acrylics heavily) vs the Warmun movement (which uses ochre so it's more dark).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.200.232.245 (talk) 04:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The short answer is no. I am not aware of any literature, interviews etc in which any artist has made this suggestion. In general the patterns in most Indigenous art are linked to one of three origins: body painting patterns (often related to rituals); other pre-existing artistic or cultural symbols (for example patterns used to denote particular information, such as people travelling or camping), or interpretations of geography at different scales (for example representations of mountain ranges at one extreme, to patterns in the ground made by the roots of desert yams at the other). hamiltonstone 06:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's very helpful.  Thanks. --Atomicskier 20:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions 

message: This page is almost exclusively devoted to traditional Aboriginal art.  Should it be expanded to include contemporary Aboriginal art, or should that be a topic for a separate page?
Fmarkham 01:45, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well its been expanded to include contemporary artists now.. Cfitzart 06:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contemporary Aboriginal Art 

message: Is there a reason that this is "Clifford possum" and not "Clifford Possum"? Rmhermen 00:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clifford

message: Hello all, I've added a section on Aboriginal co-ops. I'm glad that the Wikipedia page doesn't have any links to private dealers (yet). So I have added the Aboriginal cooperatives that do have an online presence so readers who are interested in the art don't go to one of the million links of private art dealers when they could go directly to the cooperatives. Some people may ask why the artists sell to the private dealers - well it's because the artists can get money quickkly in an instant whereas with the coops they have to wait until their paintings sell. Ergo, the price the artists sell to the private dealers is cheaper and the dealers can have a good mark-up price.
As for the exploitation bit, the story of the dealer case in Melbourne literally kidnapping the group of artists I think is very important to be noticed. I have seen instances of individuals who happen to know Aboriginal painters selling artworks on Ebay Australia. When you ask for a Certificate of Authenticity, they say "well I've taken 10 photos of this artist doing the painting, isn't that enough?" Well no, when they do it in your kitchen in exchange for receiving booze or quick money then I think that's exploitation. So I do encourage people to cite articles or verifiable cases where exploitation of artists have occurred. On the Yuendumu/Warlu.com website, the history actually mentions why it was established - the artists felt they were exploited. Actually, I'm going to put that in now :-)
There is major debate about exploitation of Indigenous artists, and it is good there is a section on this. However i do not think the fraud element of it should be overstated, hence my recent edit. Happy to discuss if anyone differs. hamiltonstone 07:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aboriginal co-ops and Exploitation

message: What is the policy regarding allowing links to private dealers and galleries? Are they allowed? I've noticed there are already a couple of links in the External Links section belonging to some private art dealers. Is it fair to have the External Links section populated by the websites of private dealers or would that mean this entry could potentially be too commercialised? I'm going to check the other art movements and see how they handle this. 203.217.63.244 12:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Allowing Private Dealers Links?

message: On the ABC there was a television series called "Around the World in 80 Treasures". One episode went to Australia and NT. There, they showed a rock art of the "Rainbow Serpent" The commentator was surprised because in general we think that it is a colourful serpent. On the rock art it showed a a rainbow arc and that was the serpent. Not rainbow as in colourful but rainbow as in the shape. It might be helpful to this page that a photo of that rock art be included in this page. Like this one
http://www.ozoutback.com.au/postcards/postcards_forms/rockpaintings_nt/Source/12.htm
124.168.170.114 08:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rainbow Serpent

message: Don't know if this is the right place for this request, but could someone from here contribute a rock art image of a Thylacine to the Thylacine page? It is notable as the art has been found on the mainland of Aus. --Mutley 09:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thylacine Rock Art

message: I reverted an edit by an unregistered user who removed all mention of aerial landscape. The reasons given were: 
(1) claimed concern that the section was placed by a commercial gallery - 
:No; wrong: I placed the section there, and I'm not a commercial gallery; furthermore, I'm registered, while the presuming editor is not. 
(2) claim that the aerial landscape aspect of the art is already treated adequately elsewhere - 
:Wrong; nothing that clearly specifies and describes the aerial nature of these landscapes is anywhere in the article except in the deleted section. 
It's conceivable that the section needed rewriting, or that its contents would preferably be integrated with other sections of the article, rather than making a separate section. But the simple deletion of its entire content cannot be defended; it impoverishes the article.  MdArtLover 17:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aerial landscape

message: There is ongoing editing and debate (well, editing, anyway) about what links should be included in this piece. I have noticed how lots of sites that are basically online commercial sales outlets of various sorts, often tag themselves - and sometimes describe themselves - as online sources of "information" about Indigenous art. There is usually some info on the site. Sometimes there are even links to this article. However, they are first and foremost commercial outlets, often with little or no information about the actual business behind the sales. Regardless of claims to being sources of info about Indigenous art, I think these sites should not be included, and should be regularly removed as they pop in.
To helpful people wanting to provide links: This article already has a large number of links, including to probably all the most reputable and not-for-profit, longstanding organisations in the Indigenous art community. As a general guide: if they're selling Indigenous paintings online, keep them out of this article: they aren't needed in order for a reader to either learn about Indigenous art from WP, or to find links to more detailed info or images if they are curious. Feel free to discuss here, or cotnact me at my talk page. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial links - again

message: I moderate the Culture Victoria website and have added an external link to images and videos related to traditional art and artifacts.Eleworth (talk) 05:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I'm not sure whether this really belongs here. We try to keep the number of external links to a minimum and where possible favour the writing of text and privision of material as citiations to support article text. Have a look at WP:ELNO and other material in the article to which that links. I'd be interested whether any other editors have a view on this Culture Victoria link. hamiltonstone (talk) 06:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New External Link added 

message: I think there should be a correction to the heading "squashed niga art" as it is highly disrespectful  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.155.201.39 (talk) 04:59, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Pretty clearly vandalism. It's gone. Thanks. HiLo48 (talk) 09:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Heading 

message: Regarding this passage: "Whatever the meaning, interpretations of the icons should be taken in context of the entire painting, the region from which the artist originates, the story behind the painting, the style of the painting...", I don't think that the phrase "should be" is appropriate in an encyclopedia article. Who is the authority for the "should"? A Wikipedia article should have a neutral voice. An article should contain information, not advice or opinion. Omc (talk) 07:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iconagraphy and symbols - "should be" 

message: Aboriginal art in international museums
1) "The Museum for Australian Aboriginal art ...dedicates itself entirely to this kind of art"
2&3) "There are two museums in the world devoted exclusively to Australian Aboriginal art: 
  the Museum of Contemporary Aboriginal Art located in Utrecht, The Netherlands;[11] and the 
   Kluge-Ruhe Aboriginal Art Collection of the University of Virginia."
When is a collection a museum?  Kluge-Ruhe is a collection, part of the University of Virginia, which has the University of Virginia Art Museum, which has all sorts of art.
QuentinUK (talk) 18:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 or 3 or very few 

message: There is currently little representation in this article regarding Torres Strait Islander art. Since Indigenous Australian is a term meant to collectively refer to Aboriginal people and/or Torres Strait Islander people, this article could be improved in two ways that I can see:
1) information about Torres Strait Islander art
2) the opening sentence states that Indigenous Australian art and Aboriginal Australian art are two terms meaning the same thing, when actually it is a broad term that encompasses both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art. 
Is there any objection to me making this change to the opening sentence? And does anyone have anything they can contribute to make this article a better representation of information on both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art?
Thanks! LizLou (talk) 01:23, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torres Strait Islander art 

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Reference named "nswart":
From Warlimpirrnga Tjapaltjarri: Documentation card: "Untitled" (2001) by Warlimpirrnga Tjapaltjarri. View online at the Art Gallery of New South Wales
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Reference named "japingka":
From Torres Strait Islanders: 
From Jimmy Baker (Australian artist): 
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