Talk:Auburn University Marching Band

message: There is some info on the Auburn University page on the band and its visual ensemble, the Tiger Eyes, that needs to be incorporated into the new article. I created a main article link, but my wiki skills aren't to good to create new parts of an article. Some help in this area would be nice. If there are any requests for photos, I can provide them from the past year. Any other years, ask the band's webmaster. If you need any info at all the webmaster can help you out for most of your questions. This wikipage has the potential to grow, so please explore the bands website more. I could put in what I know from having played and worked for the band within the past 5 years, but I'd like to see what the outside world can dig up first.Dennibr 05:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dennibr; I appreciate you effort (and that of Stephenjoshd) to expand this article; however, to make it a good wikipedia article and the reason why I didn't include substantially more info from the AUMB website is we need to find secondary sources for material rather than relying strictly on the AUMB website which is a primary source and considered autobiographical/promotional. If you know of or can find book references and/or news articles about the AUMB, it would be extremely helpful. Thanks and WDE! AUTiger » talk
I am currently looking for more secondary sources, I added a couple of newspaper articles.hopefully I will add more later tonight, this is my first attempt at a serious contribution to wikipedia, so feel free to correct me if (when) I make mistakes Stephenjoshd 16:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Excellent; great to see you using the cite templates too. Take a look at the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band article which made Featured Article status (which surprised me since it relies a bit too much on their official website IMO). Btw, you both should consider adding yourselves as participants at Wikipedia:WikiProject Marching band. Thanks and keep up the good work! AUTiger » talk 20:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info on band currently on Wikipedia 

message: Should the Tiger Eyes be mentioned under instrumentation, or should a separate heading be made for them? If it is decided that we give them their own heading, then I think it would be appropriate under that section to give a brief history of the sections and how they were intergrated as one visual ensemble. Dennibr 16:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably give them a separate section and certainly agree about the history. Ultimately as this article develops (and as I put some major renovation work into Auburn University, the text at the AU article about both will get downsized substantially. AUTiger » talk 19:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that putting the Tiger Eyes under Traditions seems to demote them as not actually a part of the band, when in fact they are. Maybe we should rename the instrumentation section to "sections" instead??? Or give them an entire subsection??? Dennibr 20:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tiger Eyes (Auxillaries)

message: Kappa Kappa Psi, Honorary Band Fraternity, was founded in 1919 at Oklahoma Agricultural & Mechanical College (now Oklahoma State University).  The fraternity operates to serve the college and university bands.  While the fraternity operates as a service organization, selection for membership is considered honorary as “it is an honor to be selected to serve”. [cite: http://www.kkpsi.org/whoiskkpsi.asp]
The AUMB is served by the Pi chapter of Kappa Kappa Psi.  The Pi chapter was founded in 1926, but like many chapters of the then all male organization, the chapter went inactive during the years of the Great Depression and World War II.  The chapter was rechartered on June 6, 1992.
Pursuant withe purposes of Kappa Kappa Psi [cite: http://www.kkpsi.org/purposes.asp], the Pi chapter works to serve the Auburn University Bands and the students involved with the band program.  Some of this service is done through providing logistical support for the bands, such as the movement and set up of equipment and supplies, while other projects, such as fund raisers and social events, are also organized or supported by the chapter as a service to the Auburn University Bands.
The Pi Chapter was recognized as a Chapter Leadership Award Finalist by Kappa Kappa Psi for the 2005-2007 biennium at the fraternity's 2007 National Convention in Orlando, Florida. [cite: http://www.kkpsi.org/PodiumSpring2007.pdf]
Collimd 20:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  KKΨ – Π chapter 

message: With the current length and content of the article, can it still be considered a stub? If not, can we go ahead and remove the code declaring as such? Dennibr 03:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely not a stub anymore. Great work guys!  AUTiger » talk 04:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, then as far as the WikiProject Alabama  stub rating that is at the top of the talk page, I'm going to ask them to re-assess the article. From their scale, I would say we are currently in the start class. Once we get more pictures up (with proper credentials), and possibly provide citations for the traditions section (is it a good idea to have them?), we might be able to move up to B class.Dennibr 15:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reassessed the article and rated it as a B class, it has surpassed Start class too.  Altairisfartalk 05:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article stub status

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message: The article needs to reflect one or the other, not both. I see that the AUMB website is also confused about this matter. However, if memory serves me correctly it has been RAT and not R.A.T. Dennibr (talk) 18:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it RAT or R.A.T. ?

message: In the Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket marching band, first-year members are called RATs, for Recruit At Tech (though RATS can stand for Recently Acquired Tech Students). I find it hard to believe that both Auburn and GT developed RATs by sheer coincidence. The question is, who came up with it first? Did GT steal from Auburn, or did Auburn steal from GT? I am asking the same question on Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket Marching Band. According to that page, GT first began using the term in 1915. Mellophonius (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone would need to check the AU band Centennial book, or the 75th Anniversary book that had details.  However, since GT played Auburn every year up until the late 1980's when GT joined the ACC, it's very likely that it was cross-pollination. GT and Auburn's bands once had a close relationship since so many Auburn students hail from Georgia, and many GT students were from Alabama. Kids who'd gone to high school together often were 'reunited' at halftimes on the sidelines.  But the key connection is that GT's band was started by R.L. Bidez of Mobile, Alabama in 1908, and his brother P.R. Bidez of Mobile, Alabama was the assistant at AU, and then ran AU's band from 1911 to 1951. Hence, there's probably the origin, not that it's documented anywhere!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.111.163.179 (talk) 13:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  R.A.T.s at Georgia Tech