Talk:The Departed/Archive 1

message: Shouldn't Mark Wahlberg be listed as a supporting character? While his character was important, he doesn't fall into the same category as Costello, Costigan, and Sullivan. There are also characters such as Queenan and Madden that are more important than Dignum. It's also important to note that Mark Wahlberg was nominated for an Academy Award as a Supporting Actor, not a Lead Actor. I don't know how to change the page since it involves a table, so I didn't edit the article at all. If anyone how to move Mark Wahlberg from the Lead Actor Table to the Supporting Actor Table under the Cast section, it would be much appprectiated. Cycleboy78 01:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. IrishGuy talk 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ThankyouCycleboy78 01:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. :) IrishGuy talk 02:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark Wahlberg's Character 

message: Jack Nicholson was allowed to improvise many of his scenes in order to keep the fearful presence of his character fresh. One example is when he pulls a gun on Billy Costigan - Leonardo DiCaprio's surprised reaction is genuine.
::Directly copy/pasted from IMDB. Classy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.71.154.183 (talk) 22:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit of interesting trivia that I can't add myself 

message: Many fans of “The Departed” believe that William Monahan’s script hints that Colin (Damon) was a closeted homosexual and Costello (Nicholson) may have been sexually involved with him. Here are some reasons: 
1.) Very early in the film, Colin repeatedly calls a group of firefighters “Homo’s” after a game of rugby. Long after the game ends, while drinking a beer with his friend on a bench, it appears to be weighing on Colin’s mind. He than snaps and says, “Those firefighters are a bunch of homo’s.” This may indicate that Colin is insecure with his sexuality. 
2.) The morning after Colin and Madolyn’s first sexual experience, while in the kitchen, Madolyn asks Colin if he wants to talk about last night? He avoids the subject and runs off. This may hint that Colin wasn’t able to “get it up” the night before. 
3.) Towards the end when Billy tells Colin he wants his identity back during a phone conversation, Billy calls Colin a “two faced faggot,” which seems to really anger Colin. 
4.) A conversation between Costello and his girlfriend seems to hint that Costello was having same sex relations, possibly with Colin. While sitting on his couch, Costello says, “sweetheart you’re giving me a hard on” to which his girlfriend replies, “Are you sure it’s me or all that talk about whiffing and crawling up asses…” Costello abruptly interrupts her with “you watch your fucking mouth!” She replies with “Let me straighten you out.” 
5.) During the showdown scene, before Colin kills Costello, Colin asks if he gave him up to the FBI? Costello replies, “I’d never give you up, you’re like a…” Colin interrupts with “…a son? Like a son? Is that what this is about?”  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.8.171 (talk • contribs)              
:Hello there mate! I would like to remind you to sign your posts. As interesting as it can be, words such as "It may" "it hints towards" and "seems to" are not enough to put such claims in the page, specially if there has been no word about that from Monahan himself. 
:1.- It is rather common (altough definitely not right) to call things or people that piss you off "gay"
:2.- Well, I actually tought the same thing on this one.
:3.- If someone calls you 'faggot' you get mad. Furthermore if you know he has evidence that can ruin your life and career, you get even angrier. No big mistery.
:4- That's just Gwen messing with Frank, as she does in pretty much all of her scenes.
:5.- Said scene might actually hint towards Costello being sterile and somewhat frustrated by it rather than any kind of homosexual relation.  
:These are my toughts. Vicius 03:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Vicius.  Cops call firemen homos because as a rule cops don't like firemen.  There's no deeper meaning to it.  --CliffC 05:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every time I watch this film, it strengthens my belief that Sullivan is a homosexual. It's really too bad there are no sources to cite, so it could be mentioned in the article. 134.29.6.7 (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Homosexual Characters?

message: The long digressions into analysing the so-called "themes" of the movie, including a completely ludicrous examination of the colour purple and the fact that it is created by mixing blue and red --- it's complete crap. Totally not cited, not factual, and nowhere encyclopedic. This isn't meant to read like a first-year university essay, it's an objective reportation of facts. I move for the immediate deletion of all the uncited and flagrantly subjective content.
:I totally agree. I was reading through that entire section, and by the time I got to the colors, I was shaking my head. I also vote for deleting it, as whoever wrote that seems to have made that entire section up themselves. --ARSmith 23:35, 21 February 2007
::Well, that's the good thing about a Wiki... things are determined by consensus. I too think the color section was absurd, so I just went ahead and removed it. I trust this addresses your concerns. – Lantoka (talk) 05:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole article needs work it's awful as of now. The whole thing is rife with OR and unsourced personal summary/interpretation. Quadzilla99 21:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Website is this? 

message: Sadly, I cannot do this now (while I wish I could be a more dedicated wiki-worker, I also have a full-time job I must attend to right now), but the plot really needs work. What exists now is much more of a broad synopsis or a script for an advertisement than a plot description. It needs to be expanded to fit the plot descriptions of other wiki pages of other movies. I will do this as much as I can, but help would be appreciated. -- Ubergenius 13:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Needs Work 

message: Is this really necessary? (From Trivia)
:Intended or not, the title "Departed" begins with prefix 'de' and ends with suffix 'ed', which signals symmetry of the word. When the middle word 'part' is flipped, it shows the word 'trap', arguably one of the themes of the movie.
I mean, you could speculate on meanings of words in artistic productions like movies and paintings, but unless you have material to backup those speculations, couldn't this be construed as original research?
I'll remove it in a day or so if no one responds with an argument for it to stay. -- Ubergenius 15:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: The article says it is the highest rated movie of 2006 on RottenTomatoes. "The Queen" (2006) has 98% and is in wide release. Other movies such as Wordplay and Little Miss Sunshine have higher ratings.RT Top Movies of 2006. An Inconvenient Truth and Darwin's Nightmare have the same rating.--Fmaack 05:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotten Tomatoes 

message: The WB has released a poster for The Departed. I would try to add it myself, but I'm afraid I'll mess up or do something Wiki-illegal. lol But someone who is good at such things should add it. Gunslinger 02:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's done. --Erik 02:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It's a remake, genius. MonkBirdDuke 07:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poster 

message: "The Departed is set in the penis of South Boston..." Is this some usage of "penis" that I am unaware of? What is this describing? Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with Boston. Fishyfred 04:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Yeah, "Penis" is an official district in South Boston.  What are you, retarded? MonkBirdDuke 07:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Be civil, MonkBirdDuke.--Cúchullain t/c 06:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  So what is 'Penis' here? Charles.2345 00:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was vandalism.  CPitt76 02:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Penis is similar to "panhandle."  That's why you so often hear people talking about being from the "penis" of Texas, the "penis" of Florida. etc.  "Ballsack," however, is not a geographic term and can almost always be considered vandalism.  StrangeAttractor 07:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Penis" 

message: there's a line right above external links at the bottom of trivia that says "holy jesus christ above this is a good movie." but when i went to edit it out i couldn't find it. What's the deal? if anyone knows how to fix this sort of them please do so (it was a good movie but that's not the sort of thing that needs to be in its entry) also please tell me what I'm doing wrong/why i can't find it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coffeetable (talk • contribs) 02:23, 8 October 2006.
:That particular line was added and then removed within 30 minutes.  It sounds like it was removed during the time you were reading the page before you went to edit it. --Mrwojo 22:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit help 

message: Sites such as IMDB suggest that DeNiro was slated to play Queenan, NOT Costello.
:DeNiro couldn't have played Queenan because can't really pass for an Irishman. Just look at what a lame Irishman he was in "GoodFellas".
::The dumbest statements are always unsigned. I would hardly call anything about his performance in Goodfellas "lame". But the biggest hole in your argument is that DeNiro IS Irish. He has an Italian last name because his father's half-Italian, but he's more Irish than Italian. Cris Varengo 21:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And where do you get your information from other than the fact that you seem to think you know everything when you clearly don't? I check my facts before i say things, which is why I'm not afraid to sign my statements. One mistake I did make was saying he is more Irish than Italian when in fact he is equally both, as his mother is neither (she is of French, Dutch, and German ancestry). But his father is NOT full-blooded Italian, he is half Irish, which you could easily look up right here on Wikipedia under both Robert De Niro and Robert De Niro, Sr., as well as IMDb's biography of De Niro and any number of other books and websites. Cris Varengo 19:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DeNiro 

message: "Andrew Lau, the co-director of the original movie...prefers the original. He is one of the few people to think this. IMDb, rottentomatoes and almost every other movie site prefers "The Departed" to "Infernal Affairs"."
Isn't it pretty obvious that the director of the original film would prefer his own version to the remake? I don't think his opinion should be compared with the critics and moviegoers'. MrBlondNYC 05:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the end of the reactions section it mentions Lau by his last name only.  It's ambiguous to whether or not the comment should be attributed to Andy Lau or Andrew Lau...both affliated with the film and mentioned in the section, but not the same person.  Whoever added it, please clarify.  --MonkBirdDuke 02:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reactions

message: Just wanted to poke in one last comment to remark on how realistic the violence in this film was! I was quite surprised! Blood spatter was dead on, and not exaggerated beyond reality...
I finnd it necessary to talk about Matt Damon's ED problem. A lot of people I noticed assumed that he was gay or that he just had some intimacy problems. Truthfully I think that it had something to do with him being molested as a child by Priests. Not only was he shown as an alter boy in the beginning of the movie, Jack Nicholsan's character also chews out those Priests in the restaurant and obviously he would have some harsh feelings towards them if they molested a guy he was close to.Gimmokely 23:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random 

message: I did some general copyediting to improve grammar and style, and after some attempts to edit it, removed the "reactions" section, which doesn't actually have much to say and is not encyclopedic.  Those quotes might have more relevance on the actor's wikipedia pages, if even there.  I also removed the online review references (Rotten Tomatoes, etc.) because these are only relevant for the moment (to the extent they are relevant even now).Larry Dunn 20:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  General copyediting and some stylistic revisions 

message: Both Sammi Cheng in Infernal Affairs I and Carina Lau in Infernal Affairs II called Mary, however, they are different roles.
Vera Farmiga's character in TB is only combination of  Kelly Chen and Sammi Cheng's characters in IA.  198.155.145.86 03:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: character played by [[Vera Farmiga]]

message: Check the article's history log and realize that I'm torn between which one is right and which is wrong. I watched the movie but forgot the dialogue. However, someone claimed the IP address vandalizes and reverted it. But I'm confused. --Gh87 06:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "OK" vs. "Go ahead" 

message: found a prevoius discussion from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films/archive4#Infobox_IMDb_rating
removed as it seems appropriate
Z3u2 06:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IMDB rating removed 

message: I believe the poster featured at the top of the page should and currently is the one featuring photos of the stars within letters spelling the title. Most pages, if they have a poster all, have the official domestic poster and this is the official domestic poster. The one showing the three stars standing in a room is a foreign poster. Gunslinger, 14:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poster 

message: i modified the intro paragraph of "borrow the general plot" to "remake" because...
it is a remake, and not just the general plot being incorporated into this movie, but many "scene by scene" or even "frame by frame" from the movie were the exact duplicate.Z3u2 22:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with using the word "remake." Something along the lines of "reimagination" would perhaps be more appropriate. But then again, I wouldn't call West Side Story a remake, either. It's another version of the same story, retold in another setting and culture. Maybe I'm being too picky, but that's just how I feel. Any thoughts? 134.29.6.7 15:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "remake" vs "borrow the general plot" 

message: It is my opinion that the wiki should be just about the film "The Departed" and there is no real need to compare it with the original movie at every single step. I think the wiki would do better to remove the excessive references to the original movie and focus on the movie that actually stars Jack Nicholson.
amiroby 15:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We would everything we can to prevent the original film from becoming the main focus of an article by discussions rather than making edits before discussions.  But if you mean removing all references to the original film, then you'd be wrong. We'll keep some, such as character/cast comparisons, but we will make sure that the references to the original film does not steal the article's main attention. --Gh87 15:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This film & the original 

message: theyre kind of off.  can someone fix them?  i tried to no avail.  DrIdiot 20:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pictures in the cast section 

message: Shortly after the criminal who was arrested is said to "call his mother and tell her he won't be home for dinner" by Damon and Costello's men burn some appartment in which they counted money, we see some of costello's men beating up some guy (Probably to death) with an iron pipe.
Is it the same criminal who warned them about the raid as Damon instructed him? Why did they beat him, then? 80.178.22.114 10:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the same person, it was obviously someone higher up than the criminal Damon "interrogated." The sole purpose of this scene was to show the kind of work DiCaprio was doing, and what he had to put up with - just as the scene with the two men, one of which DiCaprio punches, does the same. tmopkisn tlka 08:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who did the gangsters beat up? 

message: The introduction of the plot section begins as follows: "The film begins "some time ago" in South Boston...". The film does start this way but it should also be mentioned following this statement that "some time ago" really means sometime in the 1970s as the film begins by making references to the desegregation busing  which occurred in Boston during that period.--Jersey Devil 09:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I inserted words to that effect, but some tight-ass wikipedia scumbag deleted it! 172.167.95.110 11:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro of Plot

message: Would you guys be opposed to completely removing the themes section? In my opinion, it reeks of WP:OR and over-analysis, and doesn't really have a place in this article. What do you guys think? – Lantoka (talk) 05:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes section 

message: Nothing about catholicism, like for example, that Martin Scorsese, Jack Nicholson, Mark Wahlberg, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin are catholic's or lapsed catholic's? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.82.239.94 (talk) 07:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholic 

message: Someone has put in some Costello/Sullivan slashfic graffiti into the article, particularly the summary of Costello's death and Sullivan's death.  63.229.196.62 06:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graffiti 

message: Someone should really put a protection on this page.  There are more than 10 vandalism edits and reverts to this page within a single hour, and sure there are more coming.  Q. Lockins 19:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is original research which isn't allowed. That is why it has been reverted. IrishGuy talk 17:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for edit protection 

message: This whole page reeks of it particularly the entirely unsourced Homage section. Quadzilla99 21:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, the Themes section is rife with it too. What a poor article this is as of now. Quadzilla99 21:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: Is there really a problem with the plot length? This film is pretty complex, and you need a lot of words to cover all the plot twists. The version of the plot from about a week ago was seriously lacking, and that was already over the recommended 900 words. (As it stands now, btw, it's 1500 words). – Lantoka (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The idea of the plot section is to summarize the movie within a paragraph or two - enough to grab the interest of the reader to go out and watch the movie. The plot section shouldn't be used to tell the entire story as if it was a mini novel or a school dissertation. That's really why there's a recommended length. Groink 10:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I dunno about you, but I come to Wikipedia movie article synopses after I've watched the movie in question. Oftentimes it is well-organized and detailed, and reading it will link everything together nicely. For this use, "excessive" length would not be a consideration... you'd use as many words as you needed to do this effectively. And in the case of The Departed, it's a lot of words, because it's a long movie with a complicated plot. Just my two cents though. – Lantoka (talk) 10:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's ridiculous.  That plot summary is in no way too long. I'll edit it down a little bit and then remove the tag. Vidor 05:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People keep trying to add details in.  If this can be trimmed down to the bare length where someone not having seen the movie has the general idea, that's the best we can really get.--Loodog 15:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|plot}} tag 

message: I hate to shout but someone either needs to add spoiler tags to the trivia section or remove the bit about Matt Damon's body at the end of the film ASAP. I haven't seen the film and had no idea he died, so thanks whoever added that! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.188.208.240 (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TRIVIA! 

message: Brad Pitt is listed as one of the three producers for the film "The Departed". and when a movie wins Best Picture at the Oscars that specific award is given to the producers of said film. so, since "The Departed" won, wouldn't/shouldn't Pitt be listed as an Academy Award winner for producing the film? there's no mention of it on his wikipedia page. i mean this as a legitimate question, b/c i honestly don't know. if any one could help clarify this, it would be helpful. thanks. Calric03 18:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brad Pitt, Oscar Winner? 

message: I went ahead and took the liberty of deleting a small section called "Errors". The only thing the section said was that the scene in which Costello gives the young Sullivan a Wolverine comic was wrong, as Wolverine did not appear in a comic until the 1980s. The writer of this section apparently thought that this scene took place during the 1970s, but it did not. I have a special edition of this movie on DVD (from Best Buy, I think) that includes the  entire original script for the film in booklet form. According to this booklet, the scene takes place in 1985. This makes sense, considering the movie takes place in modern day, which means that, assuming Damon's character is the same age he is, he would have been about 14 years old in that scene. 
Anyway, I went ahead and deleted it, as it appeared to be hastily written and factually wrong, and didn't seem to merit its own subheading anyway. ARSmith 22:48, 12 March 2007
I have to agree. It may be an obvious goof, but it's extraneous and belongs on IMDb. 68.149.27.46 05:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just removed the goof mention that is still (or was put back) in the trivia section.  If it's gonna be in there it needs to be accurate, which anyone who's watched the movie should be able to deduce that what it said about the scene being before 1978 is not correct.  Discuss here before adding anymore references to this possible (but I don't think so) goof.  --luckymustard 19:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Errors" section

message: any references to these names? Do we really need a column where most of it is filled up with N/A?? And with the names already there, who are Noltan Gianjurco
and Det. Tom Duffy? I can't find their names on google. 
Z3u2 20:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  looks like the Real life counterpart/Influence by section keeps on getting changed. People continue to change the names without any references. If no ref comes up after a while, i suggest the column to be removed Z3u2 19:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  i've removed this part. Because 1. the names keeps on getting modified and 2. the characters in The Departed are based on the characters in Infernal_Affairs, it is incorrect to say that they are based on some other people. Z3u2 23:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except many characters in this movie have real life counterparts that were incorporated into the script, including Whitey Bulger, upon whom Sullivan was based.--Loodog 23:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: James J. Bulger, John Connolly (FBI), it's all in there.--Loodog 23:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real life counterpart/Influence by 

message: It states in the Boston section that "lace curtain" is used by working class Irish to disparage middle class Irish who've forgotten their roots.  I've only ever heard this (here in Ireland) used in quite the opposite sense: scornfully by middle class Irish against the working class who hang lace curtains in their windows to disguise their poverty.  
Given the difference's in DiCaprio's and Wahlberg's characters, this makes sense in context as well.
Will someone confirm and change this?
:Not exactly scholarly, but urban dictionary says current usage is correct.--Loodog 15:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In All Souls, Michael Patrick MacDonald (who grew up poor) usese the word to describe suburban Irish-Americans.Thedeparted123 19:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lace Curtain" Irish 

message: I removed the movie mistakes section as the only 'mistake' concerned a cellphone ringing for a received phone call minutes after it vibrated when a text message was received.  This might not be a mistake as many newer cellphones allow its user to ring for an incoming call while vibrating for a message.  Black Harry 15:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie Mistakes

message: I deleted some trivia that is non-notable, that may be appropriately placed at IMDB or something instead. This list could go on and on, and I just deleted some. Ben Hur does not seem to be the first remake, since I heard somewhere the Mutiny on the Bounty was a remake of something. — Andy W. (talk/contrb.) 21:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of some trivia

message: Some wikipedia users are editing the trivia section without justifiable cause. Please, do not accuse a user of copyright violation without any proof. I suggest if someone cares about The Departed wiki entry so much, why not rewrite the summary instead of removing lots of useful hard to come by information about the films trivia. Trivia sections may be "discouraged" however they are not prohibited and many people appreciate the trivia section, even if an individual user does not. Please spend more time contributing information and less time deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathantillett (talk • contribs) 
:It is simply taken from IMDB. That is a copyright violation. You have been warned repeatedly. Should you revert again you will be blocked. IrishGuy talk 18:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the vast majority were word for word identical. The others were simply reworded in the most perfunctory way. Stop adding that information. You are violating policy. IrishGuy talk 18:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor editing 

message: It is possible that the 2006 film was an influence on Cho-Seung Hui, the Virgina Tech shooter. The shooter's use of the word "rats" in his diatribe to describe wealthy people is possibly connected to the film's overarching theme of money hungry individuals rising to power in the world today. The movie uses the term "rats" alot. Frank Costello, one of the antagonists in the film, can be quoted as saying "a nation full of rats" early on in the movie, and there are many other references throughout the film to the term. The last scene of the film, is infact a rat crawling across a golden dome (symbolizing money) in the background of the shot. Although the film may well have influnced the thoughts of the V-Tech shooter, it is ignorant and ridiculus to assume that the film played any part in the decisions made by a very troubled and psychotic individual. One cannot blame artists for the decisions made by psychotic individuals.  --Eagletwl 03:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is original research which isn't allowed. That is why it has been reverted. IrishGuy talk 17:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Connection to V-Tech Shooter Cho Seung-Hui 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:CostiganvsWahlberg.jpg

message: I know they refer directly to Joyce at one point, but I noticed Wahlberg's character is named Dignam, also the name of the "departed" character in Ulysses whose funeral is visited in the "Hades" chapter. Also the name was chosen by Joyce, fond of double meanings as in Latin it's an inflected form of the word "dignus" meaning worthy, deserving, meritorious, deserved, suitable, fitting, becoming, proper, and we see the title of the film on a funeral card reading "heaven holds the faithful departed" (my emphasis -- although it should be noted Dignam is one of the only guys who actually lives...). 67.161.53.9 04:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joycean References? 

message: Following the funeral, Sullivan returns home to find Dignam waiting there, having been tipped off by Madolyn about his connection to Costello.
I don't recall that Dignam's sudden reappearance is explained at all.  One could assume Madolyn tipped him off for lack of any other explanation, but it was never established that these two even knew each other.  Having Dignam just BE there makes it all the more shocking, IMHO.  Cranston Lamont (talk) 21:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I removed it. IrishGuy talk 21:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Last Scene 

message: I changed the beginning paragraph to say that the film is an adaptation of Infernal Affairs, rather than a remake. If anyone agrees or disagrees with that decision, let's discuss it here. 134.29.6.7 (talk) 16:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's an American remake of Internal Affairs, much like The Ring and The Grudge. Don't you agree? — Enter Movie 16:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remake vs. Adaptation 

message: The second paragraph of the page has a very brief synopsis that calls Damon's character a "career criminal." I don't think the movie says or shows that that character ever earned a living through crime for any extended period of time. He is a career police officer- he is shown entering that career at the beginning of the film, and he presumably didn't have a career before that. Baldwin references Damon having a "clean record" at one point- so I would guess Damon hadn't been charged with a bunch of crimes or investigated in the past, as would be the case with a career criminal. It would be more accurate to say he had a lifetime association with criminals.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.90.247 (talk) 11:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sullivan as "career criminal"