Talk:Grant Devine

message: Wow.  This article is nothing less than a conservative revisionist of the legacy of Grant Devine.  Romanow WISELY decided to kee the resource structure in place?  Blakeney single-handedly drove away the oil industry?  Really!
And I'm sorry, where is the section regarding Devine's use of special warrants to keep governing without passing a budget in the house?  
Devine is one of the most despised political figures in the province, especially in urban centres, but this article would sure have us believe that he is one of the most beloved.--Subbevil 01:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Perhaps it's Grant Schmidt.  Ten dollars says it's Devine himself.
Anyway, anything I write will be properly written and sourced, while avoiding the hackery that's demonstrated in the article as it stands.  All viewpoints will be consider and nothing will be left out.
--Subbevil 01:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rick Swensen, is that you? 

message: Not as bad as the Brad Wall article, but it certainly needs to be fixed. AnnieHall 18:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: This historical chart would seem to indicate that not only did oil prices not fall to $9 per barrel under Devine's government, adjusted for inflation they approached the prices we're seeing today (and the year previous they were actually higher than in 2006)...  Unless someone can provide a citation, I'm working that statement out of the article. --Hiddekel 16:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds plausible.  Got a source that demonstrates this discrepancy in prices between grades at that time? --Hiddekel 21:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oil Prices 

message: I think a (heavily) modified Dec. 2, 2005 version might be in order(for the current article is way too screwed up(pardon my french)) - and have tried to create a reasonably balanced version based on some of the subsequent opions, both in revisions and in talk:
Donald Grant Devine  (born July 5, 1944) was the Progressive Conservative Premier of the Canadian province of Saskatchewan from May 8, 1982 to November 1, 1991.
Born in Regina, Saskatchewan, a farmer, teacher and agricultural economist, Devine taught at the University of Saskatchewan in the 1970s before entering politics. Though he was defeated during 1978 election in a Saskatoon seat, he was elected leader of the provincial Progressive Conservative Party in 1979. He lost a by-election in Estevan in a three way split of the vote in which each party recieved more than 32 percent of the vote in 1980. The NDP won the by-election defeating Devine and Liberal federal finance Minister Ralph Goodale. Devine won election to the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan in the 1982 general election that brought him and 54 other Progressive conservatives to power making Devine the Premier. Devine was the first Tory premier of Saskatchewan since James T.M. Anderson formed a government in 1929.  
Devine's government privatized several Crown corporations, introduced conservative reforms to labour law and welfare programs, and attempted to attract foreign investment.  Devine's economic polices eventually resulted in a large budget deficit, producing deficits every year, and Saskatchewan's only structual deficits in the last 25 years, , but are also credited with increases in employment.  The theory of the 'Devine decline' - that is that saskatchewan was bleeding people during Devine's mandate - is questionable: between the 1981 and 1991, and between the 1991 and 2001 federal census's saskatchewan's population grew between 2 and 3 percent in both decades.
His government was re-elected with a twelve seat majority in the 1986 election, despite his NDP opponents winning a slim plurality of votes.
Devine's government was defeated in the 1991 election after two terms in power. The PC party was reduced to 10 seats in the legislature.   In both 1986 and 1991 Grant courted rural areas with farm aid and civil service jobs respectively.  In the seats the Conservatives did win in 1991 Farmers said that the reason was that they thought the Tories were best for them
Controversy revolves around a series of scandals that implicated those around Devine.  Although Devine himself was never charged or even accused of criminal wrongdoing, several members of his Cabinet were sent to prison as the result of a kickback scandal that operated during Devine's second term from 1986-1991.  Due significantly to these problems, the Saskatchewan Progressive Conservative Party imploded immediately after his administration. Many former members and supporters now support the Saskatchewan Party.   Some PCs have carried on the party name, running enough candidates in each election to maintain the party's status as a registered political party.
In 2004, Devine announced his intention to return to politics and run for the federal Conservative Party of Canada, but the party ruled he was an undesirable candidate, and denied him the right to seek a nomination. On May 7, Devine announced that he would run as an independent candidate in the 2004 federal election for the riding of Souris—Moose Mountain. Consequently, Devine was expelled from the Conservative Party on June 8.
Despite the controversies around his government while  premier and his status as an independent, Devine managed to finish the election in second place to Conservative candidate Ed Komarnicki, receiving 8,399 votes (29.42% of the popular vote).
I feel kind of ridiculous deleting everybody's comments on my last rough draft, but I feel I've adressed most of them, and if you would like to read them they are here: 
This should have something on Grant' reputation of firing civil servants, but I can't find strong evidence either in favour or in rebuttal to such a charge.  At any rate it seems a vast improvement over the current edition with (it's primary flaw in my eyes) neoliberal innuendo presented as fact, claims about oil prices more or less refuted on our talk page, and information about GDP growth not apporaching ten percent in subsequent years, GDP growth rarely approaches ten percent in devoloped countries.
Comments are ofcourse welcome, if we can't get consensus on something then we're forced into minor edits of the page as it stands.
Jethro 82 17:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Rough draft 

message: If anyone has information regarding the $2000 grants for home renovations given out by the Devine government, I would like to see that added.  I believe this is an important part of his legacy, as it contributed to Saskatchewan's crushing debt, but I am not knowledgable enough on this subject to add it myself.  Also, there is a new CBC article outlining some of his other initiatives, including selling off PCS, building oil upgraders, SaskFerco, and Cameco, found here:   .--216.197.154.213 16:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rec Room" subsidies 

message: I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada and I do not feel many people outside of Saskatchewan would be familiar with the subject of the article. Cheers, CP 02:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: I'm pretty sure the date of Oct 21 is an error as that was election day. The Saskatchewan archive's page on the Saskatchewan Ministries gives the date as November 1 which is presumably the correct one. So I took the liberty to correct this error. Shipguy (talk) 03:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  End of Term 

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