Talk:JT Group Limited

message: I think the Jersey Insight needs to be merged in to JT Group Limited. The website is not notable enough in its own right.  A mention in this article would be enough. Danrok (talk) 15:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Jersey Insight

message: Hi, I am trying to update the JT Global page because it hasn't been updated for a number of years. I do support JT with its communications (declared) and I will be using as many external references as possible.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Julienmorel (talk • contribs) 17:53, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating JT Global 

message: This article seems to have largely been edited by conflict of interest paid editing, consequently it is VERY poorly sourced and promotional. It should really be hacked back to a stub and started again. Theroadislong (talk) 17:57, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of interest editing 

message: I have updated the Community Involvement section of the page with factual and independently sourced citations. The references are predominately from independent news sources based in the Channel Islands, including www.bbc.co.uk and www.bailiwickexpress.com. There is one reference to the JT Global Annual Report, which is an audited document Julienmorel (talk) 10:00, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating Community Involvement section 

message: I have amended a reference to FON. An agreement was signed between JT and FON in 2014 but the service was not introduced until 2016. https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/12/12/free-wi-fi-around-world-for-jt-fibre-customers/ Julienmorel (talk) 09:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small update of FON information 

message: I have updated the JT Fibre section to bring it up to date with information post 2012, when the information was last updated. This has been referenced from www.jerseyeveningpost.com and www.itv.com/channel. I have also added a new line in the Community Involvement section https://www.telecompaper.com/news/jt-donates-tablets-to-local-primary-schools--1214943 Julienmorel (talk) 09:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update of JT Fibre information 

message: After declaring an interest, I am updating the JT Global page based on independent citations as the page has not been refreshed since 2012. After welcome advice from page moderators, I am updating without bias so have removed the three warning templates. Julienmorel (talk) 09:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The vast majority of the article is still entirely unreferenced and promotional, please don't remove the templates. Theroadislong (talk) 09:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: , thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. Please refrain entirely from editing the article, and limit yourself to requesting changes here on the talk-page (instructions in the section immediately below this). I'd normally have rolled the page back to , but hesitate to do so because (a) that version is so direly under-referenced and (b) both  and  have made edits here since that version, so I'd like to hear their opinions on what should be done here. My first suggestion is to remove all unreferenced content forthwith. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so it turns out to have been a copyvio from the day it was created. The (presumed) source page is apparently not archived before October 2007, but we can be pretty sure that for Jersey Telecom to have copied the content from us they would have had to do so in the four-hour window between  and  in the paragraph on the occupation – and that is disappearingly improbable. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:18, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your understanding, . You don't need to worry about removing any unreferenced content – someone else will do that if there's agreement to do so after there's been some discussion here. As above, you should limit yourself to requesting changes here on this page, the talk-page. The contents of the company's history page were copy-pasted here in 2004; that page doesn't carry any explicit waiver of copyright, so that is copyright violation – which is strictly not tolerated here. All that content, and any content that derives from it (through subsequent copy-editing and the like) will need to be completely removed. I'd like to say that that will happen within a week or so, but there's a substantial backlog in this area, so it may be quite a bit longer. And yes, it's distinctly embarrassing that it's taken us thirteen years to notice such an obvious problem. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:46, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything said or published by JT Group Limited. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with JT Group Limited have chosen to publish about it; the article should be limited to a summary of what such independent sources have said. Theroadislong (talk) 17:53, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of interest editing 

message: At least one major contributor to this article has declared a close personal or professional connection to the topic, and thus has a conflict of interest. Conflict-of-interest editors are strongly discouraged from editing the article directly, but are always welcome to propose changes on the talk page (i.e., here). You can attract the attention of other editors by putting  (exactly so, with the curly parentheses) at the beginning of your request, or by clicking the link on the lowest yellow notice above. Requests that are not supported by independent reliable sources are unlikely to be accepted. 
Please also note that our Terms of Use state that "you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." An editor who contributes as part of his or her paid employment is required to disclose that fact.  Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of interest 

message: Hello  and . Thanks again for picking up on the errors in JT Global page. In order to restore and update the page, I have conducted my own research and have drafted the text below for your editing. If it is satisfactory and meets Wikipedia rules, it would be great if this could replace the old entry as a start point for the Wikipedia community to edit. Any feedback gratefully received. Julienmorel (talk) 08:46, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well just reading the first sentence "JT Global is a full-service Tier-1 global consumer and business enterprise provider" shows you know nothing about writing in the dispassionate neutral tone required. It is meaningless marketing talk. Theroadislong (talk) 13:34, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: , I agree with  – this is not written in a tone appropriate for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. It reads like what it presumably is – a PR puff-piece. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:58, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

text: Thanks, . A good start would be to clock up a thousand or so edits on articles where you have no conflict of interest – that should give you a basic understanding of what is meant by "encyclopaedic content". Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:58, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New referenced JT Global entry 

message: Now that the dust has apparently settled, can we blank out the copyrighted material and put together whatever encyclopedic content there may be for this topic? I think there are enough references in the news to justify its relevancy. The page in its current form is giving a very bad impression, not just to the company, but to Wikipedia. I mean, those gigantic copyvio templates aren't supposed to sit there forever, are they. --Sisgeo (talk) 01:38, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have taken some time to trudge through the page and remove all of the promotional material, and so forth. Added some sources too, but most of this is just not sourceable. I believe the improvement tags have been solved, as all of the COI editors are named here on the talk page in the template at the top. But wanted to ask here first to see if anyone else can see material that remains from those edits or that would make it favourable to keep that improvement banner moving forward rather than removing it. 74.219.34.74 (talk) 20:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Two days have passed and there does not appear to be any objections, so I will move forward and transfer all conflict of interest material here to the talk template (though this may have already been done). 74.219.34.74 (talk) 14:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I am a newly signed up editor and have declared my COI as a paid editor of a Jersey-based PR company that acts on behalf of JT Global. I have followed the conversations on here with one of my predecessors. Before properly familiarising myself with the rules and policies surrounding editing on Wikipedia, I did try to make a couple of minor changes to the page which were removed.
My suggestion for a change regards the ranking of JT as third fastest in the world for broadband speeds. That changed in September when JT moved into first place, ahead of Lichtenstein, Iceland and Andorra in the World Broadband Speed League 2021 which is produced by the comparison site, cable.co.uk. 
Here is the link to the cable ranking - https://www.cable.co.uk/broadband/speed/worldwide-speed-league/
There is a short article in telecompaper - https://www.telecompaper.com/news/jt-welcomes-research-ranking-jersey-fibre-broadband-network-as-best-worldwide--1397360
And a link to the online story in the Jersey Evening Post - https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2021/09/17/island-claims-top-spot-in-global-broadband-speed/
— Preceding unsigned comment added by JibJabr (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested edit to JT Fibre