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Talk:Muhammad al-Baqir

message: The article as it stands right now looks fairly neutral as far as I can tell. I see no bias in the infobox, unless you count the bit about martyrdom, which should be fine anyway as long as you cite source.
I also deleted the "Sayings" section, since it seems redunant to have the exact same content here as is on the Wikiquote section. Feel free to add it back in if you feel it's really necessary. Kerowyn 09:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is still extremely POV. I just haven't had time to get to it. The encomiums to al-Baqir's scholarship are Shi'a-POV. Sunni Muslims just wouldn't say such things. I'd have to do some research, however, to figure out what other scholars were active at the same time. Zora 09:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: "Sunni Muslims just wouldn't say such things." not true. Dr. Nur al-Din `Itr, a reputable Sunni Hadith scholar, says of the twelve imams, "Each one of them was a pious, upright Muslim from the noble Prophetic Tree and many of them were also among the foremost people of knowledge in their time." --198.166.20.167 02:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

text: very npov
69.113.7.9 01:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am taking up the responsibility to rewrite this article from a Neutal Point Of View. Thank You Salman 18:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV and Quotes

message: I am not finding this source anywhere. Can someone verify? Peter Deer (talk) 00:33, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The life of Imam Mohammad al-Baqir" 

message: Imamah_(Shi'a_Ismaili_doctrine)#Ismaili_view clearly lists him as the fifth imam. --91.61.54.169 (talk) 09:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Ismaili Imam? 

message: Hello. I am going to expand on this article. Hadi.anani (talk) 10:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanding on the article

message: I'll hopefully copy-edit the article in the coming weeks. Albertatiran (talk) 15:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-editing the article
Talk:Muhammad al-Jawad

message: Imam Muhammad Al-Taqi, Al-Jawwad is the ninth Shia Imam, not fifth.
I changed it...,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.23.46 (talk) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ninth Imam 

message: Hi @Edward321. In the page occurred some edits which could enhance the quality of the page and clarify the life of this person. Please describe your reason about your reverting. In addition, Al-Ma'mun was the seventh Abbasid caliph who is named in the page, I don't know why you have reverted this name to a wrong name (Al-Ma'mum). If you check all historical references, you will find out "Al-Ma'mum" is completely incorrect which you insist on protecting. Mahda133 (talk) 08:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the article and correcting the wrong information 

message: Copy-edited the text and summarized the content when appropriate. Also removed the content from non-academic sources, which was mostly replaced with similar content from academic sources. (One exception was (most of the content in) the section "Views".) Restructured the article in a way that seems to minimize the overlap between various sections, e.g., the two sections "Imamate" and "Life".
* "Majlesi and Ḥarrāni recorded him as an author of mawāʿeẓ wa ḥekam, a kind of pithy religio-ethical sayings" seems to be misinterpreting the source (Medoff, 2016). Albertatiran (talk) 18:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of new edits
Talk:Sharif

message: I see in early versions of this article, it was alleged that the arabic word and the english word were some way connected. That is no longer the case so is there any purpose for the statement regarding "sheriff" in this article? Pepsidrinka 06:00, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To keep dimwits from inserting the "information" again. I restored the statement, as I really don't want to have to keep removing false etymologies. There are some criticisms or ideas that must be answered, even if they're totally dumb. Zora 08:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sheriff references 

message: While the multiple transliterations aid English pronunciation, an IPA guide in the first paragraph may prove helpful.
Ohayrt (talk) 01:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA Pronunciation 

message: The text [in South Asia ... the term  designates not only Muslims of Arab descent (s or purported descendants of Ali and Fatima,]  was removed from the article on the basis that a text supporting the claim could not be found in the source. As a courtesy, I give here a quote from the source which supports the article text:
 ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for meaning of the term in South Asia
Talk:Forlì

message: There are some good images among mediocre ones at the Italian version of this article. --Wetman 19:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: This still existing neo-Platonic order was founded in Forli in 1575. Perhaps this should be mentioned in the article? __meco (talk) 00:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fratelli Obscuri 

message: The Villafranca di Forlì is a stub with little prospect of growth. The place itself is worth mentioning - and I have just closed an AfD as keep, though it would be more helpful for it to be mentioned in context. I suggest that the information on the place is contained within the parent article, Forlì, and that a search for "Villafranca di Forlì" redirects to the information within the Forlì article. SilkTork *YES! 00:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge [[Villafranca di Forlì]]
Talk:Atiyah ibn Sa'd

message: Atiyah ibn Sa'd supported the revolt of Al-Ash'ath and his campaign against al-Hajjāj, the Umayyad viceroy of Iraq under Caliph Al-Walid I. The revolt was suppressed and  Al-Ash’ath was killed in 85 AH. after which Atiyah fled to Fars. Landau-Tasseron, Ella (1988), History of al-Tabari Vol. 39, The: Biographies of the Prophet's Companions and Their Successors, SUNY Press, pp. 228–229, ISBN 978-1-4384-0998-6 Al-Hajjāj ordered Muhammad bin Qasim then governor of Fars, to summon Atiyah and demand him to curse Ali.  Derryl N. Maclean," Religion and Society in Arab Sind", p. 126, BRILL, (1989) ISBN 90-04-08551-3.
If Atiyah refused, he was to be flogged four hundred times and his head and beard shaved as humiliation. Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani, "Tahdhib al-Tahdhib", Volume 7, page 226, Narrator no. 413. Al-Tabari narrates that Atiyah refused to curse Ali and he was punished. According to Chachnama, he was the commander of the right wing of bin Qasim's army after the conquest of Armabil.: "Apart from Musa b. Yaqub Thaqafi..., there were a number of individuals who came to Sindh in the wake of the Umayyad conquest, but chose not to settle in the region. One such person was 'Atiyah b. Sad al-Awfi, the renowned Shiite traditionalist." Modern historians, like Yohanan Friedmann and André Wink, question the historical authenticity of this claim in ChachnamaAndre Wink (2002), Al-Hind, the Making of the Indo-Islamic World: Early Medieval India and the Expansion of Islam 7th-11th Centuries, Brill Academic, ISBN 978-0391041738, pages 192-196.. Friedmann writes:-
: "One of the most conspicuous elements of this kind is the large number of warriors and traditionists (scholars of Hadith) who figure in the Chachnama and are absent in other accounts of the conquest"Friedmann, Yohann (1984), "The origins and significance of the Chach Nāma", Islam in Asia: South Asia, Magnes Press/Westview Press, pp. 23–37, ISBN 978-965-223-521-3.
Other early historians like Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani and Tabari record that he moved on to Khurasan and returned to Iraq after the ruler had been changed.History of al-Tabari Vol. 39, pp. 228, under "Those Who Died in the Year 111", State University of New York Press, (1998).Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani, "Tahdhib al-Tahdhib", Volume 7, pp 226, narrator no. 413. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 16:05, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atiyah ibn Sa'd and Muhammad ibn Qasim 

message: He was weak in hadith by ahly sunnah sect , only few hadith imams said in some hadiths he was true , bit actul he was weak and changing hadith narrations with his own words as we call tadlees in hadith , but in shia sect only call he was true and sheikh in hadith 151.253.243.242 (talk) 14:14, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  That's content not true
Talk:Hashim ibn Abd Manaf

message: As of 4/7/2021, the picture in this article misspells "Sayyed Hashem". There is an erroneous letter (aleph) added, spelling "Sayyed Ahashem".
If anyone can explain why this spelling is correct, please do so. Otherwise, the picture should be edited or removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.3.138.230 (talk) 22:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sayyed Ahashem" Picture
Talk:Banu Hashim

message: The claim in the first sentence that one of the ancestral lines was Jewish is contradicted by the article at the link that says that the tribe in question is NOT a Jewish tribe and is confused for another tribe with a similar, but distinct name.  What's the truth here?Tmangray (talk) 19:59, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. But it sounds to me as if the tribe with the "similar" name might be Al-Nadir. They were a Jewish tribe living in Medina. I can't find the claim that the Najjar were Jewish in any of the readily accessible early Islamic histories, although I have read it on various popular websites. The Najjar were a clan of the Khazraj tribe, who were originally from Yemen and who were mainly polytheistic.Petra MacDonald (talk) 09:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish tribe?

message: I propose that Hashemites be merged into Banu Hashim. I think that the content in the Hashemites article can easily be explained in the context of Banu Hashim, and the Banu Hashim article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Hashemites will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 78.144.41.254 (talk) 14:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose They are better off separately so that you won't have to swim to search for details in one large article. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Oppose Hashemites is clan whilst hashim is person, his clan is quite notable. 108.41.96.184 (talk) 21:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

text: Oppose Banu Hashim are all the descendants of Hashim ibn Abd Manaf, while this article is about the royal dynasty descended from Sharif Husayn ibn Ali, a very small section of the larger Banu Hashim clan. So I believe it definitely would cause a problem of undue weight. Also, please note that the sample text for a proposed merger is just an example, and not something you should copy word for word.  Axiom292 (talk) 05:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Are the sons of Abd-Shams supposed to be in there? They are not part of the Banu Hashim, are they? --HyperGaruda (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Umayyads in the tree 

message: ...through which God kept him safe from assassination during the early years of his mission...
Is Wikipedia claiming a direct hotline to God now? Or is this just ever so slightly biased in a certain direction? Nuttyskin (talk) 23:20, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dept. of Divine Security
Talk:Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik

message: The chronological order mentioned here for the death of the 4th Shi'a Imam (Zayn-ul-Abidin, Ali ibn Al-Husayn) is incorrect. Imam Ali ibn Al-Husayn died in 95 A.H., and this is approximately equivalent 713 A.D. which is a time period under the reign of Al-Walid ibn Abd-Al-Malik (Walid I). 
Hisham then, who ruled until 743 A.D. would be responsible for the death of the 5th Imam, Muhammed Al-Baqir, son of Ali ibn Al-Husayn (d.733 A.D.).
Imam Jafar Al-Sadiq, son of Imam Muhammed Al-Baqir, would then take the leadership of the Shiite believers upon the death of his father until the rise of the Abbasids and the fall of the Umayyads. This is the correct chronological order. Imam Jafar had more freedom than his father and grandfather in preaching and educating people since the two factions were indulged in a civil war and were too busy to focus on the matters of the Shiites and the Alawite (Alite). It is because of this, Shiites are sometimes known as "Jafarites" after Imam Jafar Al-Sadiq, since he worked on spreading the faith and teachings to wider circles of the population.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonelytj (talk • contribs) 15:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]
Talk:Al-Kahf

message: there is more than Dhul-Qarnayn story .. please modify it and check spelling and grammer as i'm not that good in English.
here is the stories:
Cave people "Seven Sleepers of Ephesus!"  : a story of youth people who escaped from an oppressive king to Shelter in a cave, where a miracle happened: they slept for three hundred and nine years.  When they woke up, the village was already became monotheist [].
Two gardens owner: Allah give money and two gardens for a faithful man, when he had this fortune, he denied Allah’s blessing and Day of Resurrection, Allah punished him by destroying the gardens.
Moses [] with Al-Khidr [] : Moses thought that he has knowledge more than anyone on earth. Allah inspired him that there is someone who has knowledge more than him. So his went to meet Al-Khidr, Moses ask Al-Khidr to be his follower to learn from his knowledge. Moses was not patient for what Al-Khid did because he did not understand the wisdom of what Al-Khidr did. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Warrior-xy (talk • contribs) 11:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More stories 

message: As a casual non-islamic reader you notice that this surah has a lot more unique and seemingly "odd" content (found nowhere else in the Quran and noticeably different in tone) than pretty much any other surah. Did scholars (whether islamic or non-islamic) notice that too? If sou, please add some information in this regard if you can. -- 2003:C0:9705:C500:10F6:A8D6:ED48:D436 (talk) 05:04, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of unique / "odd" material?
Talk:Ja'far ibn Abu Talib

message: No sources, poor language, missing wikipedic form. --tickle me 01:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: cleanup

message: Excuse me, "achieved martyrdom"? --Timothy Usher 05:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV cleanup

message: Is Jafar a sahaba ? If so, the sahaba template should be placed at the bottom of the article. MP   (talk) 10:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sahaba ? 

message: The article does not cite its sources, and is mostly written in a poor language. Hamid-Masri 15:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources
Talk:Al-Ashraf Khalil

message: * THIS ARTICLE IS READY Samsam22 (talk) 00:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was considering the same thing, actually. I'll move it. Adam Bishop (talk) 07:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: What does Al-Ashraf summoned Baydara to his Dihlis mean. Kardam (talk) 22:15, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dihlis 

message: There is a source that he was born in Cairo? Kardam (talk) 07:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth place 

message: The "portrait" that was in the lead is unsourced; or, at any rate, the file description claims it is the work of the uploader ("Omar Walid Mohammed Reda"). This information is potentially false, if the image was actually created by someone else or if it has any historical import; or it means that it's a completely made-up and recent personal painting by a random person, in which case it is of no encyclopedic value here. Unless someone can clarify the source of the portrait, it shouldn't be on Wikipedia. A common choice for the lead image of an unportrayed ruler on Wikipedia is to include an image of his coinage, and this is what was present before the portrait was added by an IP in this edit. There aren't many images to choose from, so I've added this one; it's larger than the alternative (this), but either would do. R Prazeres (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Portrait" in lead
Talk:Amina bint Wahb

message: Does Aminah count as a Sahaba ? MP   (talk) 10:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? What else?--Striver 16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On second thought, im not that sure anymore... --Striver 16:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. she is not, for a sahaba is a person who both saw the Prophet Muhammad and believed in him. Amina saw him, but died long before he became a Prophet and began propogating his Message.  —Preceding
unsigned comment added by 68.115.111.147 (talk) 00:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the definition of a Sahaba is someone who was seen by the Prophet Muhammad (as there were Sahabas who were blind) as was a Muslim. There is a difference of opinion whether the Prophet's parents were Hanif or not and also whether the Prophet was a prophet at birth or not (but started propagating Islam at the age of 40). Tanbircdq (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sahaba ? 

message: I don't think a current event ought to be placed as a entire section of a biography, especially as it is a footnote and not really relevant. There were other shibboleths asked of people this one was anecdotal. Its presence on this page feels at best misplaced, at worst, a means of adding negative content to link the person to unrelated events.
20:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Westgate Mall Shooting 

message: Says on this page Muhammad's father died two months before his birth, but [Muhammad's page] specified it was six months. 108.19.84.216 (talk) 02:37, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: The spelling in the calligraphy is wrong; the name does not contain a ي and is just آمِنَة. Munshii (talk) 20:12, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo in calligraphy image. 

message: What is the source for the date of birth, c. 549? Politheory1983 (talk) 22:12, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: I find the name of this section out of place in the article since it is part of a religious narrative and is preceded by two historical sections. Maybe something like "In Islamic tradition" would be a more appropriate section title with "Fate in the afterlife" as a sub-heading.  Chronikhiles (talk)  10:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fate in the afterlife" 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. per consensus.  – robertsky (talk) 00:47, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 27 December 2023
Talk:Aqil ibn Abi Talib

message: @ApaugasmaThis individual claims that “Saamale” claim ancestry to Aqil, this is false, as they are 100 percent of east african origin however this is what they have claimed in british somaliland book and many others
https://bakipress.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-ethnic-origin-of-the-somali-people-and-clan-system/ Beni Dawud (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lies Sitauted by Apaugasma 

message: https://postimg.cc/9DBMnPJT@Apaugasma Beni Dawud (talk) 20:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Even more proof that Saamale have not claimed lineage to Aqil. 

message: Most notably, only one of the Somali tribes traces its ancestry to Aqil ibn Abi Talib, and that is the Darod. Their forefather is Dau’d bin Ismail bin Ibrahim Al Jabarti Al Aqeeli. Darod’s father was an exiled Sufi sheikh who escaped the northern Somali coast and climbed a tree. The natives, the Dir and Hawiye tribes, looked up and saw him, confused by this. Later, Darod married into the Dir tribe, marking the birth of Al Darodi, which is one of the major Somali tribes.
 
Now, the validity is up to you, as the Aqeel Hashimite Council has declared Darod a descendant of Aqeel. Additionally, in the 10th century, Al Masudi wrote down that Darod is a modified version of Dau’d.
 References:
https://aqeleyoon.wordpress.com/
https://archive.org/details/olomnasb_ymail_2_201611/page/n345/mode/1up Beni Dawud (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now Onto Darod
Talk:Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib

message: I'm not sure what the deal was, but for some reason the Arabic text completely fucked up the display of the beginning of the article, causing his death year to come before his birth year, among other things, and was doing seriously weird things over all.  I removed it. john k 18:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: All articles in Wikipedia should have a neutral tone, either it concerns religion or politics. This artikle does not have it and should therefore be corrected at once. Articles like this only does damage to the reputation of Wikipedia. I hope there is someone out there that can do it. Fjellgauk 05:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The above comment applied to the article before a major reversion which may have fixed the issue. But editors should conform to the  Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Islam-related articles). Aymatth2 (talk) 01:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral tone in Wikipedia articles 

message: A large portion of the article appeared to be plagiarized from this website.  I have deleted all of the suspected text for the time being. -- Joshdboz (talk) 19:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: This article uses curly quotes instead of straight quotes in the page name. This seems to go against MOS:QUOTEMARKS. Jason Quinn (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes in article name
Talk:Abd Manaf ibn Qusai

message: "There is a legend that is not taken as factual by neither Shia nor Sunnis:"
This line is a double negative.  I assume that it means that neither Shia nor Sunnis take the legend as factual, in which case the line should read "There is a legend that is taken as factual by neither Shia nor Sunnis" or equivalent.  I'd change it myself but as I don't actually know anything about Islam I would like some confirmation.
Micah j 14:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double negative 
Talk:Abd al-Muttalib

message: This article seems to present the legends concerning Shaiba ibn Hashim as completely factually accurate. For example, though we know that Abreha (Abraha) died sometime in the 570s, there's no evidence he actually invaded Mecca; if he did, it's preposterous to assume that he was killed by being stoned by birds.
Yom 20:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a further note, but it appears Abreha actually died in the 550s and that Mecca was under Aksumite control before 570 (for Abraha's conquests, see Events in Arabia in the 6th Century A. D., by Sidney Smith, Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London © 1954. School of Oriental and African Studies) — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 01:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy 

message: ??
Correct if I'm wrong, but isn't it widely known that Ali was the fourth caliph , not abdtul muttalib. I don't know where came from. Can someone source this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.93.92 (talk) 17:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth Sunni Caliph

message: I am new to this discussion and so don't want to jump in and make drastic changes. And I am not sure what the Wikipedia policy is on which name should be the primary for a historical figure. I will try to look it up. But this person is universally referred to as Abdul Muttalib. Few people are even aware of his birth name.
----iFaqeer (talk) 06:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: */ I have used replace them with | residence =   option to make Banu Hashim readable
108.31.73.21 (talk) 22:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That page lists "family" as an option. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 10:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: | family             = Banu Hashim works too.108.31.73.21 (talk) 01:39, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  /* | family = [[Banu Hashim]]  OR | ethnicity  = [[Banu Hashim]]  options are not available in [[Template:Infobox person]]