Talk:Dot Cotton

message: The link for bingo goes to a disambig page. Being as this is a British based series, I assume that it means Housie. If not, the link should go to Bingo (US). Please do not just change it back to Bingo, that is an incorrect link. Warhorus 17:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologise for changing it. I assumed bingo was the correct page, as I have never heard of housie. It's only ever called bingo here. I was going to change it back when I realised but you already did. Sweetie Petie 18:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, I just wanted to make sure you knew what the story behind the edit was. I forgot myself that since it was call Bingo over where you are that it might seem out of place having it linked to Housie. Personally, I would rather see Housie redirect to Bingo (UK) rather than the other way around, since thats what you guys call it. Either way, thanks a lot for taking the change in stride! Warhorus 18:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bingo Link

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message: When this article get OOU perspective, something like this can be used as a source: SPOILER ALERT EastEnders' Dot Branning weeps her heart out anemone│projectors 00:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  June Brown was in tears 

message: I'm including my ideas, as I think this article could be a good collaboration for the EE project, and a potential FA candidate perhaps, in the very distant future :) Please add anything you think may be important.
Sections to include:
*Personailty
*Gossip
*Religion
*Costume
*Comical role
*Relationship with Nick
*Frienships
*Lou
*Ethel 
*Pauline
*Marriages
*Jim
*Charlie
*Eutanasia
*Single hander
*Immigrant baby?
*Cancer
*1993 exit and 1997 return GunGagdinMoan 15:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plan for Development ideas for Dot Cotton 

message: "helped her mother kill her husband as he abused her" - Was this bit mentioned on-screen ever? I dont recall hearing about this before.GunGagdinMoan 12:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that bit seemed odd when I condensed the section down, though I can't remember exactly how it was worded before, so I might have misinterpreted it? I've not seen the Dot's Story episode, but I assume it would have come from there if it was ever mentioned. Frickative 12:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, possibly, I did see that episode but dont recall her saying that. Perhaps Trampikey added it from the Hugh Miller novels, but I have never been sure that those books should really be treated as canon, what do you think? GunGagdinMoan 12:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I'd totally forgotten the books even existed... I'd say information from the novels should either be summarised in a separate Literature section/subsection, or if there's not enough material to warrant it, at least clearly denoted in the text that it's not from the show itself. Frickative 13:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with that. As we now cant know where this info came from and as it cant be verified, i think i'll remove it for now; it can always be put back in if someone comes up with a source.GunGagdinMoan 13:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Killing Dad? 

message: I see there's no mention of her leaving for Calendar Girls other than in the lead. I wanted to add a quote from Diederick Santer: "there were quite a few Dot stories lined up but June wanted time off to do Calendar Girls. Those stories will play out in the New Year." The reference is the same as the one I added with the name "santer2009". AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calendar Girls 

message: *I have finished assessing this article and have found that it does not yet meet Good Article criteria. A full summary of my assessment can be found here. You may renominate this article after the issues noted in my assessment have been corrected. bwmcmaste (talk) 00:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't you have just put it on hold? We've waited about three months for this review and now we'll have to wait another three. anemoneprojectors talk 00:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the issues raised seem the sort that could be easily dealt with within a day or two, and definitely within the standard one week holding period. Very disheartening to wait so long for a review, then fail over easily fixable issues. Frickative 00:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite. especially seeing as the references asked for are all plot points that cane be referenced to Eastenders!!01:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The GA review is what needed to be failed. RAIN the ONE (Talk) 03:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this was very disapointingly handled.... whilst a 7-day grace period is not law, given how long articles now have to wait to be reviewed it probably should be. ✽ Juniper§ Liege (TALK) 00:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Hopefully the drive will be a positive thing, and not just encourage more reviewers to rush through failing reviews with no grace period, because as far as I can see all the referencing 'issues' (2/3rds of which weren't 'wrong' at all, just the reviewer misunderstanding in-line citation placement and even the MOS:TV guidelines on plot summaries!) were fixed within hours of the review concluding. Sorry to be negative, this one's just left a particularly bad taste. Frickative 12:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Could we not complain? anemoneprojectors talk 12:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:GAR just recommends re-listing. I wish there was a process for putting an article back in its previous position in the queue, but I don't think that's allowed. Frickative 12:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a passing comment from a GA reviewer, you can actually request that the article is reassessed if you believe that the original GA reviewer made a mistake by clicking on the reassessment link above.  If not, then you would need to renominate the article for GA status, from what I've seen of the article it should pass this time --5 albert square (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, I think it will be easier to just relist. Probably the plot section needs to be referenced somehow first anyway. GA seems to be very tight these days, i'd hate to see how strict FACs are now. I dread to think...GunGagdinMoan 16:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: MOS:TV says plot summaries don't need to be referenced unless it's something that might be disputed (such as did Bradley jump or fall?) - look at our other recent GAs, no plot references. anemoneprojectors talk 19:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It just seems to depend on the reviewer, and whether they are either familiar with all conventions or not (or chose not to abide by them). ✽ Juniper§ Liege (TALK) 20:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They should be familiar with all aspects of the MOS, otherwise what's the point? Yes it's just a guideline but if a MOS says we don't necessarily have to do something, then why should a GA reviewer force us to do it? anemoneprojectors talk 21:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think this article's better than Pauline and should be a FA Godammit!!! GunGagdinMoan 02:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article Assessment

message: Dot's hypochondria is touched upon in the article, I'm not sure if this source adds anything to it... AnemoneProjectors 10:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypochondria 

message: *The Dot impersonation originating in the 2000 Impressions special
*McGowan on the special: "People's jaws just dropped when I walked out of make-up wearing Dot's wig. This show's about the important people and events that have featured throughout the year." 
*On how it was Ronni Ancona's suggestion that he do Dot
*"My favourite is Dot Cotton because I look a bit like her."
*Dot and Nick played as Steptoe and Son
*Dot included in his An Evening With... stand-up show
*as well as his Variety Club Awards act - review: "Alastair McGowan went through his increasingly tiring EastEnders repertoire. Hasn't he Dot Cottoned on that we are getting bored of it?"
More reviews:
*Poor old Dot Cotton (June Brown) has somehow turned into Alistair McGowan - and he does a better job of impersonating the character than June Brown does of playing her. Dot has become a panto version of herself - all raised eyebrows and pert lips. Her whirlwind romance with Jim is a nice touch after years of hurt at the hands of her son, nasty Nick. But without her bad boy son, Dot has gone as far as she can go. The euthanasia storyline with Ethel should have been the final scene of a double act which went back to the beginning of EastEnders. Whenever Dot comes on you can't help but think of McGowan.
*Back with a second series, McGowan mixes and matches the above. His most sublime impressions - Richard Madeley, Dot Cotton/Harold Steptoe, Jimmy Savile - elevate even the weakest lines.
*McGowan brilliantly captures the likes of Richard Madeley - spookily so - and his Dot Cotton is better than the real thing.
*the show was saved by the final sketch - EastEnders: The Musical. Among many gems were Pat Evans singing I Feel Pretty, Beppe with I Was Born Under A Wandering Star, and Dot Cotton's version of On The Street Where You Live.
* The best sketch involved Dot and Nick Cotton acting like Steptoe and Son. GunGagdinMoan 14:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources for pop culture 

message: This could (should) be added to popular culture but all I can find is Unreality Shout which isn't a really reliable source  –AnemoneProjectors– 14:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Cant the televised show just be referenced?GunGagdinMoan 21:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd rather use Unreality Shout. It has a video of it. –AnemoneProjectors– 21:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 NTAs 

message: "The role also resulted in a 'Best Comedy Performance' nomination at the 1999 British Soap Awards,[73] 'Most Popular Actress' nominations in the 2001[73] and 2005[74] National Television Awards, an 'Outstanding Serial Drama Performance' nomination at the 2008 NTAs,[73]"
If anyone can help with refs for these award nominations, would be much appreciated. Until then am leaving here so it can be replaced into reception section.GunGagdinMoan 20:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that ref [74] in this case is ok and hasn't been removed :-) –AnemoneProjectors– 21:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed content (cos we cant find any refs for theses other than IMDB) 

message: * –AnemoneProjectors– 18:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New sources 

message: Hey dont no if this counts but what about the new game on the EE website, Suspicous Spoilers? I mean just look []. What do you think? MayhemMario 16:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Just no. –AnemoneProjectors– 09:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture 

message: A IP added 'Gwen' as her aunt, was it mentioned in an episode?! I reverted it, but was I right?! MayhemMario 17:10, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Gwen is the Aunt that Dot stayed with in Wales during the war. –AnemoneProjectors– 14:17, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: She wasnt a real aunt by blood.GunGagdinMoan 20:56, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh ok –AnemoneProjectors– 14:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gwen 

message: As per this previous discussion, it was generally agreed that this article name should be changed to Dot Cotton. Can someone do this? Bleaney (talk) 20:26, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, didn't see that discussion before! --5 albert square (talk) 21:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!! Bleaney (talk) 21:15, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Branning to Cotton 

message: 2 people and no psychological gratification. 82.32.200.253 (talk) 02:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, not a serial killer.  I've removed the reference to the killing that was in the lead - made it sound like being a killer was an occupation!--5 albert square (talk) 12:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serial killer? 

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message: I think it's safe to say she's leaving, as the source given in the article when it says "she temporarly departed again on March 1, 2019" does mention this will be her last year.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.240.209 (talk) 06:43, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving 

message: Detective Inspector Matthew "Dot" Cottan is a character in Line of Duty. I'm wondering whether it is worth adding a hatnote from Dot Cotton to link to the Line of Duty article? Many people would know him as Dot Cottan but may not be aware of the different spelling. On the other hand, he doesn't seem notable enough to have an article of his own so it is questionable as to how many people would be searching for him specifically. --Jameboy (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line of Duty character