Talk:Assassin's Creed (video game)/Archive 2

message: The article is rather full of stuff for a game not yet released, and a lot of it is rather trivial, with a lot of expansion on the part of the writers of this page. Maybe someone would like to look at cutting it down a bit..87.102.66.173 17:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: stuff

message: I removed this " although it can be presumed that he is Muslim by birth. The evidence for this lies in the fact that all members of the Hashshashin were Muslim."
Remember this is not an exercise in logical thinking. The infomation in the article should directly relate to the game. Also see Wikipedia:No original research - although this may seem ridiculous to you - stating that altair is a muslim counts as original research since you've infered it and we don't have a reference.
I think it's important to remember that this is an imaginary character in a computer game - though we already have been given a lot of background on him, we have been told that he is spiritual. Remember that this is fiction - in fiction anything can happen - for all we know he could have secretly converted to judaism whilst in the hashinin. Anything is possible. Remember that this game is historical fantasy - and so do not have to follow the rules of the real world.87.102.5.166 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right."Everything is not true.Everything is permitted." So killing the Hashashin leader too permitted?Fanatic terrorist 07:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no idea - we'll probably just have to wait and see when the game comes out to find out what plot twists there are..87.102.92.28 12:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: the religion of the main character

message: Anyone know any info (confirmed) on the limited edition? What exactly will it include and does anyone have any pictures of the limited/special edition they can add to the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.45.43.68 (talk) 14:20, August 24, 2007 (UTC) 
:Also known as the collectors edition.. http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/1693.html http://ps3.qj.net/Assassin-s-Creed-Limited-Edition-finally-unveiled/pg/49/aid/99892 etc
Though the limited edition's gameplay content will be identical to that of the standard version, Assassin's Creed LE will boast a number of bonus supplemental content items. In addition to a specialized tin packaging, the game will also include a figurine of lead character Altair, Penny Arcade comics, a miniature strategy guide, and Assassin-themed short films. Behind-the-scenes videos, official trailers, developer diaries, producer interviews and other unnamed goodies are also planned.  87.102.84.56 12:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Limited Edition

message: I just added a paragraph about PAX 2007. If anyone thinks that some of the grammar/info is off feel free to change it.70.107.181.28 20:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PAX 2007

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Assassins creed hud hd.jpg

message: Since there is a lot of IP vandalism, I've made a WP:RPP report. J-ſtanTalkContribs 23:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, it will be unprotected in 3 months. Secondly, could you elaborate on that? J-ſtanTalkContribs 18:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: The game will be on DS, too. It has been on store release lists for months, and Nintendo's new release lists include it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.216.61 (talk) 18:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for doing the research, but we need a link, or something else to prove this. J-ſtanTalkContribs 18:12, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=13691 There's your proof right there at the bottom of the article. Gonna go ahead and add it to the list of platforms and releases okay? NinjaRooster 00:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DS

message: I just downloaded a interview of jade raymond of market place and when she explains all the wepons the crossbow is not mentioned once, we should remove all information about it as it has likly been cut from the game.in fact ill do it myself Lord Cuthberton  —Preceding comment was added at 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crossbow 

message: www.assassinscreed.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.164.153.150 (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try giving a link to the source, i cant find it on the page John.n-irl 20:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Release Date,  it has been changed to Nov. 16  

message: "Gone Gold" is a reference to a point in the software development cycle. Not the number of copies sold.
Take a look: []  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grimscythe (talk • contribs) 15:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, so I was going by a different meaning of "gone gold". Either way, it's not really notable what specific day a game goes gold and the source website isn't particularly reliable either. Axem Titanium 21:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would disagree and say that since we have the date that it was delayed till 2008 on PC, it should be considered important news, what day the game has gone gold. And Gamernode is a fairly reliable website, especially when the news itself is coming from Ubisoft. Grimscythe 11:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And for anyone that reads this for archival reasons, "going gold" is definitely a useful bit of information for any video game article JayKeaton 14:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gone Gold

message: Will there be invisible walls/boundaries? If they're not invisible, what will block the player from leaving the area?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weeliljimmy (talk • contribs) 13:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a forumDAVID CAT 14:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invisible walls/boundaries 

message: Still am only getting the game for Xbox 360... does the PC version have achievements?
142.165.59.39 00:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Halo 2 for PC has achievements. - Louis 167.1.143.100 18:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Achievements 

message: I work at EB Games in New South Wales, Australia and we got an email saying that the natianal release date has been pushed back one day from the 15th of november to the 16th of November. I feel the page should be changed to reflect this.
N.B. The official EB games website has not been changed yet to reflect this...so don't go there to verify this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.24.147 (talk) 08:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Strangely the article says neither the 15th or the 16th, it says the 14th for Australia JayKeaton 03:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Australian release date. 

message: I've removed some vaguely sourced speculation.  I've retained actual sourced statements. --Tony Sidaway 19:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation

message: on the Canadian best buy website it says Assassin's Creed releases on November 16th. is it really? J.C. 04:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, the article doesn't clearly define the Canadian release date. I do not know if Chanda has the same release dates as America or not. JayKeaton 06:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Official sites can be behind the actual news with these things, probably because the publishers are not in direct control of official websites. The best bet would be sites like Amazon.com or asking an EB sales person to check the latest update on their release books. I cannot say with absolute certainty that official websites are not up to date, but my experience is that they do not get frequent updates and can be months behind if not fully abandoned around the time of release of a game (especially multi format games) JayKeaton 17:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I know that it's not out in Canada yet... comes out on the 15th, according to EB where I have it preordered - Louis 167.1.143.100 17:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Hmm. We really do need to figure out when it will be released because the release date information will be in this article forever, so we need to sort it out soon. JayKeaton 18:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Has anyone in the US recieved a copy yet? Again, I know that it'll be out tomorrow (Nov. 15th) here in Newfoundland, Canada... Hardly an official answer on the delay, but when I asked MicroPlay about it they mentioned it had something to do with finding a publisher or some such. Sounds kinda lame to me ⌐_⌐ ... - Louis 167.1.143.100  —Preceding comment was added at 17:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Hardly, given that I have my copy today. Nov. 15th. -Louis 167.1.143.100 17:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian release date 

message: I noticed the Japanese official site for AC makes no mention of a PS3 release and even heads: "Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360)". Will there be a PS3 release for Japan at all? I could imagine how MS swings a large green bag of money on Ubisoft's desk... PBz0r 17:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese release 

message: The Altiar figure included with the limited edition is only 3 in. tall, not 10 in.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.8.143.11 (talk) 14:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect limited edition specifications. 

message: Please include them in the article, how do they go again?
1)  An assassin must not hurt the innocent.
2)  Blend into the crowd and..
3)  An assassin must do nothing to compromise the order.
Of those 3 I think I violated tenets 2 & 3.  Frequently.  Is that the right order though?  Please include them in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.63.78.27 (talk) 01:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are the 3 tenets of the creed again? 

message: "Reviews have generally been positive". Im not sure about that, half are 7 half are 9ish. I would say "mixed" is more accurate.
Source: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/assassinscreed#critics  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.121.139.75 (talk) 04:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think 7 is still a good review. if someone gave it a 4, and others an 8, mixed would be more appropriate. J-ſtanTalkContribs 04:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For some reason, video game review sites score nearly all games between 7 and 9, about the only time you will see something below 7 is if the game is extremely flawed or spectacularly bad.  A 7 review generally indicates a mediocre game.  Resistance is Character-Forming 15:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you must have a very small game collection. Using Game Rankings (which eventually has more reviews than Meta), if its over 70% it would be what I call "generally favourable" however this game has 81% so yes, that would be positive. Stabby Joe (talk) 01:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reviews" section  

message: Removing text of C&D letter (from Ubisoft to Somethingawful, apparently copied in full) to protect Wikipedia from Copy-vio issues - Masem
Resistance is Character-Forming 15:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If this is a significant issue that Ubisoft is preventing fair use for parody, there will likely be an article about it that we can add from a reliable source. --MASEM 15:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the comic in question [image removed]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resistance is Character-Forming (talk • contribs) 15:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ubisoft is using legal threats to prevent websites from using Jade Raymond's image in satirical comics about Assassin's Creed

message: Hey, where can a shameless plug be put in for the Assassin's Creed Wiki on Wikia? Cymbalta 20:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikia 

message: In the game manual, Altair's full name (Altair Ibn La-Ahad) is said to mean "Son Of None", but the wikipedia article says it translates to "The flying one". Any idea which is correct? (and even if the current wikipedia entry is correct, I think the manual meaning should also be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.249.83 (talk • contribs) 16:59, November 16, 2007
:IIRC, Altair means the Flying One, Ibn- La-Ahad means Son of None. Does that make sense? Cymbalta 21:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Altair's name 

message: On the main page for Assassin's Creed as well as the page for Altair i think that any instance of free running should be changed to parkour because that is what Altair uses. Look at the pages for Free Running and Parkour and you will know the difference.
:: From my experience, the terms are interchangeable. (Mad Gouki (talk) 02:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parkour 

message: The game takes place during the year 2012.  There is enough evidence in the game to support this.  The Altair parts are in 1191.  If this is too much of a spoiler please remove it (Mad Gouki (talk) 05:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already rewrote the plot to reflect the fact you are controlling Desmond experiencing Altair's memories, with those memories taking place in 1191. The lead may be off though. --MASEM 05:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The game does not take place in the year 1191 

message: I dont ow the game, and im not sure exactly when it came out ( was away for a few weeks), however Im sure its out now, and so the date should at least be given (not 'due for release') and perhpas someone who has played it could briefly add something to the article.172.188.104.238 (talk) 11:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Game is out

message: Could somebody put an accurate story synopsis in this section? Right now it only gives a summary of the game introduction with a big question mark over the rest of the game. Fine for the blurb on a game case, but not an encyclopaeic article. I would add one myself but I haven't actually played the game.Rokos 23:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Story" section reads like a press release 

message: The game has been delayed until November 21st for both Xbox 360 and PS3 versions.  This ONLY applies to Australian and New Zealand releases.  I assume that the 13th is still go in NA.
link Delayed
142.165.59.39 03:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Delayed to Nov. 21 in AUS and NZ