Talk:Characters of Kingdom Hearts/Sora

message: I don't think Sora fits into this catagory. In the Kingdom Hearts series the worlds are clearly shown as planets, not dimencions. Pata Hikari
:No, I think he fits. The worlds are shown to have different laws which are not to interfere with one another. Moreover, it's (supposed to be) impossible to travel between the worlds, although there are methods of travel, like Sora's gates, the corridors of darkness, or gummi ships when the walls have been torn down. 2:56, April 17
I'm not sure if he qualifies though, their always refered to as worlds, Sora should be kept from that catagory until the differnce between Worlds and Demensions is clarifed. just a question though, Since he comes from Dream Zanarkand which doesn't physically exist wouldn't Tidus count as an interdimensional Traveler?
:'World' is an ambigious term, since it can mean planet, universe, or point of view. The reference to walls between the worlds is telling, though. It speaks of interdimensional barriers, rather than physical walls erected between planets. Also, as one of the unsigned commenters pointed out, some (Wonderland for instance) operate under different laws of physics than others, which wouldn't occur if they were in the same space-time. Noneofyourbusiness 16:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because if you'll notice, people stopped discussing this point on July 14, 2006. Axem Titanium 22:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fictional Interdimensional Traveler?

message: It appears someone has taken the liberty of making it a character article...again. ~ Hibana 09:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The character's appeared in three games. That's notable enough for me. --Apostrophe 20:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I think its okay...I mean, they've got a lot of info here, and he's a pretty popular character in modern fiction.  ~  Dee man 45 21:14, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Kingdom Hearts is pretty much destined to become an ongoing series, so I think its fine to feature its main character on its own page. The very fact this page is as full as it is with pretty relevant information I think is enough to say he should get his own page. --Kiyosuki 23:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character again?

message: "... ... ... It is revealed that one of the Organization members, Roxas, was "born" when Sora briefly became a Heartless in Hollow Bastion during the first game. He even fuses with Roxas near the end of KH2."
:Doesn't Roxas fuse with Sora at the end of the prologue, which would be at the beginning of the game? --'Ivan 02:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Beginning-of-my-Name-sake. --'Ivan 15:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fusion at the END?

message: :Here is some information from the Ragnarok article merge, please insert it how you see fit. Deckiller 21:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the ragnaraok article should be deleted; it is too much to put in info on a single attack, and then you would need to cover the other attacks to make it comprehensive; Wikipedia is not an FAQ, people. -Dee man45 03:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hence why I left this information on the talkpage instead of redirecting to the list of FF weapons without it. I'm sick of fancruft as well. Deckiller 03:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Information

message: Actually, it HAS been revealed what causes Anti-Form, via the Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania Omega, a comprehensive guidebook published by SquareEnix itself.  The guidebook is the absolute authority on the game, and thus, information found within is essentially concrete.  Among other things, it does list the requirements for attaining Anti-Form, which were exactly as written earlier today. 69.40.115.212 03:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Urgh. For starters, it isn't the Omega. I've kept the actual information; I objected to your presentation of the information as a rebuttal, which is terrible form on an encyclopedia. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 03:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Very well.  I can understand your objection to my form.  I simply wanted to try and get rid of some false information that I had seen.  69.40.115.212 03:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-Form

message: AntiForm was action replay'd into the Drive Menu in [ this video].  Note the lowercase "f" in "Antiform".  Just asking, where is it called AntiForm, the guide?  If not I'm editing it.
:End battle stats screen. States "Times used AntiForm" or something like that. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 00:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antiform or AntiForm? 

message: Over at GameFAQs.com, someone stated that you cannot become AntiForm if you change into Final Form.  Is that true?--BigMac1212 05:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. But, um, why are you asking us? ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 05:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wanted to make sure the statement is correct.--BigMac1212 17:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with L337 kybldmstr; Final Form decreases the probability of turning into AntiForm by 10 points, but it still has a slim chance of turning into AntiForm. KeybladeSephi (Talk) (Contributions) (Autograph) 00:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought Final Form reset the Drive counter?—ウルタプ 03:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Obtaining it, yes. Using it only decreases the counter by 10 and it's impossible to transform into AntiForm when transforming into Final Form. ' 05:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Anti Form is obtainable when transforming into V, W, or M Forms, while Final decreases the points that the others add.KrytenKoro 05:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No AntiForm from Final Form?

message: There has been a debate as to which company owns Sora, Disney or Square-Enix. Does anyone have proof as to which company owns him? Buster Sword
:I'd say Square, since they developed the game and Nomura designed him, but it's never been officially stated.—ウルタプ 13:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who owns Sora

message: One of the pieces of trivia claims that Cloud and Sora look similar. Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any resemblance whatsoever. Does anyone have a citation? --Stupidhumanzz 05:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its all because of the spikey hair. Tifa in KH2 is looking for someone "with spikey hair." When Sora points out his own spikey hair, she says "spikier." Thats really the only thing they have in common. DJKingpin 20:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cloud and Sora 

message: I'm confused. It says that the keyblade also undergoes a transformation. But, I didn't see anything different about it in Kingdom hearts. But if you're talking about in Kingdom hearts 2, maybe you should explain that. Trunksamurai 20:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nightmare town transformation

message: This may come across as a finicky technicality but I'm pretty sure the name "Sora" should be stated in Hiragana　（そら） other than in the Katakana version （ソラ） This alphabet is usually reserved for foreign names or objects. And as all Japanese dictionaries translate "Sora" as "Sky" then would it not be correct to have his name in Hiragana Japanese?
If anyone could clarify to the contrary to it actually stating his name in Katakana in the game itself then please do. Otherwise, could this be rectafied to the correct alphabet.
:...as the name of this character, "Sora" is written EVERYWHERE in katakana.—ウルタプ 15:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sora" Name in Japanese 

message: What company actually owns Sora? Disney? Square-Enix? Thanks in advance -Power Slave 01:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am aware that the question is also up there, but anyway I will answer it. I think that Sora, Kairi, Riku etc are owned by Square Enix. See: 
"© 2002 Square Enix Co..LTD. All rights reserved. Original Character Design ©2002. 2003. 2004. 2005. 2006. Square Co..LTD All Rights Reserved. All likeness is the sole property of Square Co..LTD. The use of these materials is forbidden, and thieves will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law." 
I think they are anyway, but I will try to doublecheck that quote. Yuanchosaan 09:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Got it. Found it on one of the other talk pages. All credit to Zeno McDohl. Yuanchosaan 08:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright

message: He's 14 in the first game, and a year passes between KH1's end and KH2's start... so, should his age be listed as 14 or 15?
I'm not sure what the general way to do character ages is--would the page use his first appearance's age (14), or his most recent known age (15)? 63.215.28.145 01:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be his first age because not everyone has played KHII, so they would be confused if they started with KH1 and suddenly found him to be a year older on Wikipedia. I probably could have worded that better... Axem Titanium 01:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't we break it down for his age in KH1 and age in KH2? Lionheart08 21:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Wouldn't that be pretty silly since if you knew enough about KH to care, you'd already know the answer anyway? Axem Titanium 01:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's silly. On Yuna's page it shows separate ages for her appearances in FFX and FFX-2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.235.141.68 (talk) 20:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Age?

message: To me, the article seems to be talking about the entire storyline of KH, not Sora specifically. I thought articles about characters talked about the relevant character and their development and stuff, not the plot of every piece of literature they appear in! --L337 kybldmstr 03:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All of the pages of the main characters (Sora, Riku and Kairi) seem to come from each of their point of view from the events. That much is different at least, but they could be a bit more personal. And references. Where are the references!? Dx Disinclination 04:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article cleanup? 

message: This little revert war has been going on for what seems like a year, from what I've seen on the talk pages. My edits, which were up there for over a month or two, were reverted twice recently. So, I'm going to post on the WP:SE talk page (someone could post on the Disney one as well) for outside sources to talk about the issue of adding both ages to Sora's, Riku's, and Kairi's articles. I personally believe they should be added, along with other people, and some believe they shouldn't. Or not at all. I feel this is a necessary course of action, simply because it will probably never get solved otherwise. Disinclination 04:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: L337 kybldmstr, please try to remain civil in arguments. Trust me, it just gets you no where. I do believe that the ages should be added, just like on the other articles under the WikiProject Square Enix. KH already follows the preview that spoilers are to be taken out of their articles; why is this not following other articles as well? Disinclination 20:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going to post for an outside source 

message: I hardly agree with that. There have been several people who have wanted to add them, and only about two people reverted our edits always. Considering the fact that two GA articles (specifically Yuna) both list their respective ages in more than one game, and I haven't seen an argument yet, other than its "stupid" and it "takes up space" on all three KH main characters. Considering since Cloud Strife's page actually lists like what, 5? EDIT: Or, it used to. Disinclination 19:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yuna is not a good example, because Final Fantasy X is not primed to become a series, while Kingdom Hearts is already one, and Sora's age is not going to be constant as they make more games. I also ask you to read WP:DEMOCRACY. ' 20:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no consensus through discussion. There were multiple people who argued for ages being put up, and only two who said no. We also don't know how long the series will go for. Right now, there are only two, and probably faint public plans for a third one. Disinclination 20:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with User:Apostrophe on this one. KH is a series, the age is going to change with every game in the series. We could keep it at the most recent age, but then we'd just have to change it with every game. The section for each game gives his age within that game anyway, so we don't need the age listed in the infobox. Nique talk 20:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only problem I had was that other articles under WP:Square Enix that were GA had listed several ages. Hence where my basis of the argument came from. We also still don't know how many games the series will consist of. Disinclination 21:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No consensus over age? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Clothes.jpg

message: Should it be mentioned that when the player is going through the Port Royal stage that Sora appernatly is facinated by pirates? Vilerocks 02:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pirate 

message: I think we should work on deleting a lot of the story line in this article because there is no point in sumarizing the entire story lines of the games just the important events that happen to sora as a person not the party or any of that stuff I think that would geatly improve the quality of the page--You keep what you kill 22:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too Much Content 

message: Was their ever an official deletion topic on any of the three main characters; Sora, Riku, and/or Kairi? Smile Lee (talk) 13:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, they were merged because we didn't have enough real-world info to sustain said articles. They were just pure plot summary, which isn't encouraged nor allowed here, despite, unfortunately, being a common practice.HadesDragon (talk) 15:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, then I suggest you try and find such information. We had a hard time finding much of that, and that's why they were merged.HadesDragon (talk) 17:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge?