Talk:Richard Barnbrook

message: :I removed a quotation criticising a predilection for 'stormtrooper brown suits' and a quote that it makes him 'look like Hitler' - The claim comes from the Stormfront fascist web-forum, via the Daily-Mail, I'm sure Stormfront is not a reliable source.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.204.153 (talk) 23:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: claim comes from daily mail who don't attribute their source so  how can you be so sure it comes from stormfront web-forum. either way stormfront is no more fascist than barnbrook himself so is a reliable source as any web site. more importantly, predilection for brown suit wearing is self evident including from CCC picture attached to article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.36.43 (talk) 08:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: the Daily Mail article referenced does attribute Stormfront: ""He looks just like Hitler," one person posted on the extreme Right-wing Stormfront website. "Whoever styles him needs a good kicking."". Being as fascist as a fascist is not a good argument for reliablity. I suggest it falls foul of WP:RS#Extremist_sources, despite which, web-forums are not reliable. I'm removing it again. 80.5.204.153 (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Looks like Hitler

message: I may be wrong, but I think the Royal Academy Schools offer only postgraduate teaching, and thus would not award a BA degree. Can anyone clarify this? Widmerpool (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, that's true. Also I can find no reference to Jarman's film "human soup" allegedly based on Mr B's screenplay. Paul B (talk) 17:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Very dodgy. I am looking into it, but I suppose that counts as original research. It is however uncited, and a BNP inhouse magazine is not a reliable source.--Gordon (talk) 17:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the Human Soup / Jarman reference, as a Google search for "Human Soup" "Derek Jarman" reveals only this page. See . Gordon; bear in mind that the onus is on anyone inserting claims into the article to provide adequate references for them. Simply removing claims that do not meet WP:REF would in no way violate WP:NOR, even if your basis for making the edit would also fail to meet WP:REF. It would not, however, be a good idea suggest that he does not have the qualification, unless you can provide an adequate reference, as that may breach WP:NOR and WP:BLP.FrFintonStack (talk) 16:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers, I'm going to remove that stuff, replaced with material from the BNP London site, and put a verifiabilty tag on it...--Gordon (talk) 16:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anything from a BNP website would fail WP:V#Questionable_sources and WP:RS#Extremist_sources if presented at face value to support anything in the slightest contentious. I think straightforward removal would be better.FrFintonStack (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Gordon (talk) 17:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: BA?

message: The apparently contentious statement in the article reads: "Barnbrook's biography claims that he graduated from the Royal Academy of Art (sic) in 1985 and is a sculptor." Now, all or any of this may or may not be true; however, what is undeniably true is that Barnbrook claims these things (and I have no reason to doubt him, especially given the note above from the RSA). So, the fact that it is claimed is verifiable, and correctly referenced. The source may not be reliable as to him actually being a graduate of RSA or actually being a sculptor, but it is reliable that he claims these things. I have, then, removed the 'unreliable source' tag.Emeraude (talk) 12:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verifiability 

message: We had 3 contradictory statements about his private life. Because of BLP until we get something accurate we must not add any of them. this is so obvious. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What was contradictory? He was having an affair while engaged and married.--Gordon (talk) 18:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mess

message: A series of conflicting edits in recent weeks has shown Barnbrook as applying to join English Democrats, joining Endglis Democrats and being Independent. Does anyone have some up-to-date information from reliable independent sources? Emeraude (talk) 13:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
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