Talk:Chartreuse (color)

message: I propose that we remove the "web oriented" perspective of both Chartreuse (color) and Chartreuse yellow and merge the two articles.  I have placed a merge proposal on both pages, directing here, so that people may discuss.  Unless there are objections, I will merge them into the yellowish color.  SeanAhern (talk) 00:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The cited source for most of the traditional color names, Maerz and Paul, shows Chartreuse very close to chartreuse yellow and chartreuse green.  Other than that, the enshrining of chartreuse yellow as a color of its own seems to be unsourced.  I'm merging them. Dicklyon (talk) 08:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: I think this article is seen and presented from a "web" perspective. You have to read a lot to find out this is not the colour that most people call chartreuse, and, to my point of view, is the REAL chartreuse, I mean, since when "web-colours" define what a colour is called by the society? If everybody but computer geeks call chartreuse-yellow chartreuse, that is how it should be called in this article. Or maybe making a dissambiguation page, or a better explaination on the start of the article!
The article sure is strange, but what I find strangest is the idea that Chartreuse as a shade more green than yellow is an invention of web color standards of the early 90’s.  For what it’s worth, as a child I heard the word mostly used to describe a color of kitchen appliances that was popular in the 70’s, which was closer to green than yellow.  Isn’t it, like most color names, used mostly to refer to a range of shades, not one specific one?  Any sufficiently eye-popping yellow-green is called chartreuse to me, anyway.  Is it possible we’re dealing with regional differences as well?  I live in the US northeast and I have mostly (but not exclusively) encountered the word chartreuse used to refer to greener shades. --209.6.159.204 (talk) 20:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree here. Chartreuse was a color long before the web. And every time someone used that name for a color when I was growing up, it was the yellowish color. Same with crayons. Because of the smaller gamut originally found on computer monitors (256 colors) and then web graphics (colors formulated to avoid dithering), web colors are inaccurate. Just as CMYK cannot capture RGB colors. So you can't print a bright green that you see in RGB, and the colors won't match, eve if they have the same name (such as with Spot PMS colors to CMYK versions, which are approximations, and not the "real" PMS colors).  So the "web" version is not the real color, and is a brighter lime green that was misnamed. DavidRavenMoon (talk) 07:57, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Web oriented, deceiving article

message: Hmm... the last time I checked, Chartreuse was a shade of green. Oh Wikipedia, how you confuse me
Let me see what all the tertiary colors are. They are (I believe) the same in RGB and CMY.
*Rose (R+R+B or M+M+Y)
*Orange (R+R+G or Y+Y+M)
*Chartreuse (G+G+R or Y+Y+C)
*Spring Green (G+G+B or C+C+Y)
*Azure (B+B+G or C+C+M)
*Violet (B+B+R or M+M+C)
Georgia guy 00:16, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tertiary colors

message: I pulled the colour wheel (and the discussion of it and table of all chromas(!)) and the huge image of a chartreuse field. Those were unnecessary for any purpose this article title could possibly be used for. — Saxifrage ✎ 23:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just as a critical reader and professional editor with on-duty light always lit, the color wheel text made me laugh (suggesting that somehow chartreuse didn't fall between yellow and green UNLESS the spectrum were first wrapped into a wheel) then made me despair for a whole section and two pretty graphics offering no substantive, additional information to the article. F4ll3n Carytid (talk) 07:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't edit other users comments, it is very rude. -Roxy the dog. bark 09:55, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour wheel and huge image 

message: I've been wrong for years about chartreuse, because of that damn crayon.  I've finally seen the light.  Or the color.  Big thanks to whoever explained the Crayola connection!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.49.26 (talk) 23:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are we sure about this? I would need to see a 1970s or 80s Chartreuse crayon to confirm it. I think Chartreuse became Laser Lemon, not Atomic Tangerine. I believe Chartreuse was a green yellow, the traditional chartreuse fluorescent paint color (mentioned in this article). I believe Ultra Yellow was the amber color. - Parsa (talk) 18:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1972 Chartreuse Crayola 

message: I don't know why someone said it was pronounced "car tours", unless it's from some dialect of English I'm not familiar with. I replaced it with the "official" IPA pronunciation, according to dictionary.com. --Tea and crumpets 17:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Traditional chartreuse or the web color?
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.177.154 (talk) 10:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What type would be best for real life objects?

message: Hey, somebody needs to clean up the first paragraph of this article, it says "it was named for . . . " twice, repeating the same information. I think it could be written better. Please fix it whoever thinks that they can!
128.197.81.26 (talk) 18:14, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary needs editing 

message: The OED claims that the first use of "chartreuse" for a colour was "a pale apple-green" in 1884. This contradicts the article, which says that the yellower shade came first, and pre-dates the reference given. (Maybe 1892 was the first use of the word to mean yellow but then it's less traditional!) Can anyone provide a source that explains why yellow is described as the more traditional one here?  Nick (talk) 04:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditional Chartreuse 

message: It appears that the colour clover given in this article is not even close to the same colour on the Flag of the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Which version is correct? Samuell Lift me up or put me down 03:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clover 

message: Do we really need so many citations of uses of the word "chartreuse" in popular media? I'm for getting rid of all of them. TomS TDotO (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, we should get rid of that.--345Kai (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentions in popular culture

message: In the opening paragraph, it is stated that the color takes its name from the liqueur.  It then says that the greenish variety comes from "green chartreuse" and the yellowish hue from "yellow chartreuse."  First of all, when speaking of the liqueur, "chartreuse" should be capitalized; it's a proper noun just like Knob Creek or Benedictine or Kahlua.  Secondly, the liqueurs themselves are not called "green Chartreuse" nor "yellow Chartreuse."  People refer to them this way when speaking, but the sentence is somewhat ambiguous and seems to suggest that the liqueur itself is called "green/yellow chartreuse."  Both types are simply "Chartreuse;" there's a green variety, a yellow variety, and then a third super rare limited type.
Also, can we get any verification on the picture of the glass of Chartreuse?  I have both the yellow and green varieties and in that particular photograph the liqueur looks awfully murky.  Chartreuse, both green and yellow, is perfectly clear.  I'm not sure what's in that glass, but I'm doubtful that it is truly Chartreuse.  Patrick of J (talk) 15:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Chartreuse as a Spirit 

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thread_title:  RfD notification 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article leads, and often describes, only the web version of chartreuse. All historical and color theory references to chartreuse have been minimized. Considering chartreuse related to a very real thing (the liqueur) I feel this would be the best lead for the article. Many of the references point not to chartreuse but to optic yellow (neon yellow) or high-visibility yellow. I college level color theory and one observation I have made is that many students have a minor green deficiency and are unable to distinguish certain shades of yellow-green from yellow.  You'll find this debate arise quickly when asking a room of people to describe the color of a new tennis ball. Nike markets a hue of optic yellow as 'Nike Volt'.  Currently all these colors are listed under the Lime(color) wikipedia page. And the web color chartreuse yellow belongs there. It is a misnomer to place RGB chartreuse (web/x11/etc.) within the article of the color chartreuse, at least don't lead with it. 
Anyhow, the point of my comment is web chartreuse should be moved to the Lime (color) page, or be moved down from the top of the article, the page should lead with the dull natural color that is chartreuse.
'Historic colors for reference:
'
Robert Ridgway's Color Standards and Color Nomenclature (1912) 
https://archive.org/stream/mobot31753002026018#page/n85/mode/2up
Pantone: https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=chartreuse
67.86.205.176 (talk) 05:26, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate hue leads the article, clarify web chartreuse is lime/lemon-lime and not the color classification of chartreuse 

message: The article affirms that «The French word chartreuse means "charterhouse". The monasteries that the monks of the Carthusian order (who started producing Chartreuse liqueur in 1764) live in, the first one of which was established in 1082 by Saint Bruno, are called charter houses because they were chartered—and given generous material support—by the Duke of Burgundy known as Philip the Bold…». This is in evident contradiction with the explanation that we can find here: «the English name wrongly suggests that the order was created by charter, a grant of legal rights by a high authority».  Lorenzo Norfini (talk) 08:57, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Entries inList of colors: G–M contained links to this page.
The entry is :
* Limerick
I don't see any evidence that this color is discussed in this article and plan to delete it from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries
If someone decides that this color should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible removal from list 

message: I think the section #Chartreuse_in_nature should also list the eye-popping Staghorn Lichen growing on pine trees, uniformly a bright pure chartreuse.   (Also called wolf lichen or moss.)  Striking photos are abundant, but are inadequate to convey the brightness of color. <BR> --2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:E1A3:7EC5:1AFA:8191 (talk) 21:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things Chartreuse in Nature 

message: I came to this page because I realized I didn't know what "chartruese" was. No sample is given; instead, a box with nine (or ten?) different colors is named. Is "chartreuse" not a specific color? Maybe it isn't, but the article says it's "halfway between green and yellow", which sounds like a specific point to me.
Confused by the nine color samples, I used the (i) button to see what I could learn. That just made things worse--I was taken to an article that gives some esoteric wiki-reasoning about how colors are "normalized". 
Can't this article be made a bit more approachable? -- Mikeblas (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: It could be said that chartreuse (color) is just light olive (color) (and the other way around), with the same distance or separation as any light and dark pair of color shades of green or blue or purple. Even lacking any specific source supporting this, it’s at least self evident enough to warrant an entry under "See also:", I think. Tuvalkin (talk) 04:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olive 

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message: while u are all arguing over whether chartreuse is closer to yellow or closer to green, how about the 90% of us who think chartreuse is A SHADE OF PINK?!
this misconception is so pervasive that it is called the "mandela color" (google).
both the aladdin remake and an ep of reno 911 used "chartreuse" to refer to pink clothing.
i came here to see whether maybe a crayon had been MISLABELED back in the 60s or something.  where else would so many people (and two studios!) have gotten this idea from?  2601:18A:8080:EA60:113:ADD5:AD40:E3BE (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  pink elephant in the room 

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