Talk:Pine Tar Incident

message: I've been a baseball fan for 30 years and never heard anyone call this the "Pine Tar Incident."  Everyone, or nearly everyone, calls it the "Pine Tar Game."   I suggest renaming this article "Pine Tar Game" and making "Pine Tar Incident" redirect to it.
Any dissent? CoramVobis 00:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard both, but lean towards Game, as it is more prevalent. Two kinds of pork (talk) 04:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change name of article to "Pine Tar Game" 

message: The article should state why a player puts pine tar on a bat. Itsmeiam (talk) 15:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What is pine tar for

message: If the Royals were trailing 4-3, how could  Rich "Goose" Gossage connect off the Yankee reliever with two runs to make the score 5-4? P.S. i have never heard the term "connect off" in my life!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by QASIMARA (talk • contribs) 04:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Huh?

message: This statement is wrong:
...Mattingly, a lefty, became the majors' first southpaw second baseman since Oakland's Gonzalo Márquez [1] a decade earlier; no left-hander has played second base or shortstop in a big-league game since (as of 2009)...
Márquez was listed as a starting second basemen in the lineup on two occasions but never took the field for defense. The baseball-reference.com link used here shows this. I will remove all references to the Marquez being a southpaw second baseman, and change the text to this:
...Mattingly, a lefty, became a rare Major League southpaw second baseman; no left-hander has played second base or shortstop in a big-league game since (as of 2009)...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marqugo01.shtml
Jonathancjudd (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that lefty pitcher Sam McDowell of Cleveland played a partial inning at second base circa 1965.  This was a stunt to keep him in the game while a righthander came in to pitch to Frank Howard.  McDowell actually made a putout on a force play. WHPratt (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: First Southpaw Second Baseman in 10 Years

message: "A still furious Martin symbolically protested the continuation of the game by putting pitcher Ron Guidry in center field and first baseman Don Mattingly at second base."
Unless Martin stated that his intention was to stage some farce, he should be given the benefit of the doubt here.  He had to replace in the field some players who were no longer with the team, and still keep his bench stocked with hitters for a possible rally in his half of the ninth. 
The disadvantage of a lefthanded secondbaseman is mitigated with two out, as he certainly won't have to be a pivot man on a double play.WHPratt (talk) 20:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symbolic Protest? 

message: If someone more familiar with the WP Naming conventions could explain why this is named "Pine Tar Incident" instead of "Pine tar Incident" or (the one which I think would be more appropriate) "Pine tar incident" (note the capitalization in both) (→Zachary) 03:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just saw this now. I agree this is named incorrectly. – Muboshgu (talk) 05:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pine Tar Incident vs Pine tar incident OR Pine tar Incident 

message: The section in this article about the rules in effect at the time, and McClelland's invocation of the "Umpire's Perogative" is completely wrong.  At the time, such a hit was defined in the rules as an illegally batted ball, the penalty for which is that the batter is declared out according to Rule 6.06. Nonetheless, at the time, the out call was challenged and overruled, and the game was resumed on August 6, starting after the now-upheld home run. Rules 1.10 and 6.06 were later changed to reflect the intent of Major League Baseball, as exemplified by the Commissioner's ruling.  Unless anyone can defend this article as written, I will change it to reflect the accurate summary of the rules in effect at the time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.220.120.82 (talk) 20:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is Wrong About Rules in Effect At The Time 

message: Under "Media References" can someone add the incident on the Tonight Show, soon after this game, in which Doc Severinsen's band's drummer knocked one out of the park, taking the tempo through the roof until all the other players gave up and let him solo for an extended period, before an umpire (or Carson) demanded to inspect the drumsticks, found the pine-tar coating on them to be excessive, and either called "out" or actually ejected the drummer (perhaps for the rest of the show)?76.8.67.2 (talk) 04:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tonight show 

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message: I am adding George Brett's reaction and what he thought of the pine tar game because it doesn't really talk much about what went through his head while it was happening or after the fact. User Talk: Jordanvogel12  —Preceding undated comment added 20:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  article implies rules have since changed or been removed, but doesn't state it