Talk:Angonoka tortoise

message: Whats up with ref number 4? when I click on it, it sends me to a user page/template thing... that might be a problem ;)--Savetheoceans (talk) 02:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference number 4 

message: Any info on fossils for this turtle? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fossil range 

message: * Curl, D., Scoones, I., Guy, M., and Rakotoarisoa, G.1984. The Angulated Tortoise of Madagascar. Report of Oxford University Expedition to Madagascar, 1983. "Abstract:The Madagascar tortoise Geochelone yniphora is apparently restricted in distribution to isolated patches of bamboo forest in the vicinity of Baly Bay, north-western Madagascar. A distribution map of all known locations, both in the wild and in captivity is presented, and the major factors influencing the continued survival of G. yniphora are examined. These comprise: habitat modification, as a result of frequent burning of grassland to provide new growth for cattle; a demand for tortoises as pets and as food; and predation of eggs and hatchlings. Conservation measures are recommended and their implementation discussed."
* Already in article http://www.tortoise.org/archives/yniphora.html Nice info even if scientific name out of date.
* data.iucn.org/dbtw-wpd/edocs/SSC-OP-005.pdf The Conservation Biology of Tortoises pages 99-102.
* http://www.archive.org/details/handlistofspecim00brituoft (http://ia600305.us.archive.org/6/items/handlistofspecim00brituoft/handlistofspecim00brituoft.pdf) John Edward Grays original(?) 1873 publication on the genus(?), p.4
* http://www.catalogueoflife.org/details/species/id/4461882  Angonoka is based on the Malagasy word ‘Angonoka’ 
* http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz/species?genus=Astrochelys&species=yniphora&search_param=%28%28genus%3D%27Astrochelys%27%29%29 Good source of more references
* http://wbd.etibioinformatics.nl/bis/turtles.php?selected=beschrijving&menuentry=soorten&id=379 Ernst website
* http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/9016/0  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SunCreator (talk • contribs) 01:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  For later research 

message: In Greek
* astro = star
* chelys = tortoise/convex shell? (Chelys http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Chelys,  http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Lyra.html http://www.yesterdaysisland.com/archives/science/5.php ("The word “chelys” was used to specifically refer to the oldest lyre of the Greeks, which was said to have been invented by Hermes.")
Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:57, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ok thats pretty cool, where do you purpose we put that information?Millertime246 (talk) 01:49, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Already added to the taxonomy section, unless you refer to the lyre bit which is a little more difficult to weave in and weak sources are an issue. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed text for now, as sourcing not great "It is a combination of two Greek words, astro meaning "star" and chelys meaning "tortoise".Definition of astro from reference.com1911 Encyclopædia BritannicaConstellations of Words:". Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:31, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Astrochelys meaning 

message: yniphora naming was by french zoologist Léon Vaillant. Maybe the meaning is french? Located the orignal manuscript online. Fritz calls it "C. R. Acad. Sci. Paris, 101: 440" I'm guess that is a journal of Comptes rendus de l'Académie des sciences. Found it! (pdf) page 441 is where yniphora is used. Now translating "ces caracteres permettent de distinguer a première vue ce Chelonien des autres Tortues proprement dites actuellement connues; je proposerai de la designer sous le nom de Tesudo yniphora, faisant allusion a la forme speciale de la partie anterieure du plastron." => "these characters distinguish a first glance this Chelonians [from] other Turtles known at present; I propose to the designer by the name of Tesudo yniphora, referring to the special shape of the anterior part of the plastron.". Well got the meaning even if not from the word. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:58, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  yniphora meaning 

message: Wikipedia articles mentioning Angonoka tortoise
* Astrochelys and Tortoise
* Fauna of Madagascar
* Madagascar dry deciduous forests
* IUCN Red List endangered animal species / IUCN Red List Critically Endangered species (Animalia)
* Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust / Durrell Wildlife Park /Lee McGeorge Durrell (Conservation group)
* Sean McKeown (Conservation)
* Xeko, In popular culture! conservation but no WP:RS for card. card game, card 32(not WP:RS). 
Worth considering what the link is. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 03:49, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia articles 

message: Base map of Madagascar thanks to User:Visionholder. Detail of Astrochelys yniphora
http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/9016/0/rangemap Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:10, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Graphics lab request here, anyone can do this. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Now with map thanks to User:Derfel73. I didn't realise the range is so small. It looks a bit tiny. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the map okay, or the size an issue? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think most of the maps made with the base map have just dots! Do you think we should use a crop of the Madagascar map? Doesn't seem that necessary, and it looks like we might not want to make it seem the distribution is as known and continuous as a very close crop could make it seem. —innotata 01:04, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really sure either way. It looked a lot smalled then I expected, especailly when adding the legend that is bigger then the range. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: As well as these plants, the tortoise has also been seen eating African bush pig feces and dried carnivore. I don't understand the dried carnivore part - I know the meaning of the word - but can't quit get my head around how it applies here. Was something taken out of context from the source? --JimmyButler (talk) 01:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It means the dried feces of both, as I've clarified the text. (The source says "dried carnivore and African bush pig feces".) —innotata 00:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yum Yum - Dried Carnivore 

message: Under Conservation, what is meant by "approximately half of the offspring produced to date"? Up to 1996? Also, what's the actual date or source? The theft is given as being in 1996, but the source 1983. —innotata 00:21, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservation 

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