Talk:Provinces of Ireland

message: The first section says that the provinces have no legal status and this may be correct in the sense that there are no provincial governments, legal jurisdictions, police forces, etc. But this presents a slightly false picture. The situation is a far cry for example from the way in which the historical French provinces have been eradicated. The Irish provinces continue to be used for organisational purposes by various statutory bodies. To give just two examples, the Central Statistics Office presents most (possibly all) of its census data broken down by province, in addition to breaking down the figures by local authority , and the Met Office provides separate forecasts and climate data for the provinces . The point I'm trying to make I suppose is that the provinces are still very 'real' in the day-to-day administration of Ireland and they're not purely a historical and sporting notion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Davidmccormack (talk • contribs) 02:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No legal status?

message: I presume the modern province boundaries are not any older than the county boundaries?  Morwen - Talk 11:46, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Boundaries

message: I think the image on here isn't quite right - it shows Longford as part of Connacht, whereas the individual province pages show it as part of Leinster. sjorford 13:02, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. zoney ▓█▒ talk 19:15, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Question: why is the "red hand" open handed in the flag shown on this page?  Shouldn't it match this flag?  Is this a mistake? --JW1805 15:25, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes my friend - it is a mistake - I have commented about this on the image itself. Perhaps it would be best to contact User:Zoney about this as he originally created the image.Jonto 00:24, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just corrected the flag, putting in the proper "red hand".  All is well.--JW1805 01:57, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: "during Ireland's golden age".... the igorant amongst us (i.e. me) would like to know when that was, at the moment it is too ambigious for the lay reader. Pcb21| Pete 14:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it unreasonably assumes a knowledge of Irish history on the part of the reader. I have re-worded it – if anyone wants to specify the period more clearly, by all means do so. Vilĉjo 19:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Golden age" 

message: "When under Gaelic rule, Ireland was divided into provinces": is there any evidence that the word "province" was used before the Norman invasion?  Each one had a king, so the natural English word is "kingdom". --Henrygb 16:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaelic provinces 

message: Most of the red hand at the centre of the ulster flag has been removed if you follow the link through to the file: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Four_Provinces_Flag.svg (80.189.121.40 20:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defaced Ulster Flag? 

message: Are there any maps we can use that would should an approximation of all five fifths of Ireland, before the Province of Meath was assimilated? I found this, which might be close. Obviously we have to avoid WP:OR, though maps could surely be created given some source with a written description of the province's extant. --Setanta 09:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midland colony 

message: Needs citations, one is not enough. 24.195.129.65 (talk) 00:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: Its quite misleading to state that Midhe gradually merged with Leinster. In fact the whole article seems to ignore the fact that after the English conquest of Ireland - it was the English administration that dictated the boundaries and county composition of the provinces. Did anyone ever wonder why no county (all English created) straddles two or more provinces? Anyone never wonder why Louth was removed from Ulster and made part of Leinster? Just like what is now County Cavan was removed from Connaght and merged with Ulster? etc. etc. The Irish provinces are of Irish origin but of English redesign. Mabuska (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  After the Norman invasion... 

message: I assume they are in Connacht (despite the nearest land being County Clare). The map on this page shows them to be in Connacht, the map on the Munster page includes them as Munster and the map on the Connacht page does not include them as part of Connacht. 121.217.219.110 (talk) 02:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Aran Islands

message: Perhaps a new section of this article titled "Fifth Province in popular diaspora culture", WITH CITATIONS, is warranted.
"Fifth Province" is the name of Irish-themed pubs in Chicago, USA, and Melbourne, Australia, and possibly elsewhere, too. Implicit in various websites (e.g., http://www.nyu.edu/as/irelandhouse/fifthprovince/ ) is that in this usage, "Fifth Province" refers both to the Irish diaspora and to a mythical province in addition to the current actual four provinces of Ireland.  Other diaspora websites posit that the fifth province is Meath/Mide/middle, despite the history detailed in the present WP article.
I myself am not competent to write such a section, having no known Irish ancestry, and little knowledge of Irish history or of diaspora culture (aside from having spent most of my life in Chicago and Boston, listening to Clancy Brothers records as a child, and learning about Evacuation Day (Massachusetts).).  Acwilson9 (talk) 04:08, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A "Fifth Province" section? 

message: The above statement is not accurate!"A county with a name meaning ‘The Middle (Kingdom)’, a reference to its east-central location in the island. It was one of the five ancient kingdoms of Ireland at which time it included the modern county of Westmeath.". The Concise Dictionary of World Place-Names. http://www.oxfordreference.com
The present Gaelic term for 'province is 'cúige', pronounced koo-ig-eh, and means "the fifth part", because Ireland was divided into five separate provinces in Roman and medieval times. The fifth province known as 'Midhe', meaning "middle" or "centre", is now part of modern day Leinster. Ériugena (talk) 21:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''"Since pre-historic times, there have been four Provinces of Ireland"''