Talk:North Atlantic right whale

message: Ok, may I please finally put this notion to rest. The Basques did not deplete the stock(s) of right whales in the Bay of Biscay and then go searching the North Atlantic for new whaling grounds. At the same time as they were sailing to Terranova (Newfoundland and Labrador), Spitsbergen, Iceland, Brazil, and Northern Norway in the 16th and 17th centuries there was still a profitable winter fishery off the coast of northern Spain. It wasn't until after these other areas had been visited that whaling in the Bay of Biscay began to decline. Jonas Poole (talk) 23:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular conceptions of Basque whaling history

message: I received a privately-communicated editing challenge that I think belongs here in Talk for the good of the Article. SaberToothWhale wrote to me "Hi. Could you provide a scientific paper that says whaling wasn't the cause of the current low numbers in the North Atlantic? The news article you cited wasn't on the topic at hand and wasn't supported by any evidence. I understood it that the above claim only referred to whaling in the western North Atlantic, not the entire ocean basin. If you can't provide said reference, I will have to revert your edit. Good day." Among other issues I have with that approach is the attempt to frame the issue as whether I can produce "a scientific paper" and that the consequence of any failure woud be to "revert" my edit. Proper WP approach would have been to first acknowledge that the Environment Editor of the BBC (the author and publisher of my source) is a "credible source" on a relevant issue; and that the burden of proof re any reversion lies with the person seeking to revert. SaberToothWhale does not cite or provide any basis for why my edit contravenes WP policy. In my own editing discussions, I seek to engage any editor in a discussion to see whether we can arrive at Article text that presents properly any relevant, credible-source information. I some editor thinks that the word "western" ought be added to the text "Atlantic Ocean" then WP:BeBold and do it. Or engage in cooperative efforts to otherwise improve the Article. To further that end, I point out that cited content need not be flagged by the title of a source and that the source need not itself cite its "evidence". I suggest that the article can be improved by those with the subject matter skills to know what a better source might be. Let's try that rather than have an edit war based on personal policies rather than WP policies.SteveO1951 (talk) 00:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Human-Predation Influences

message: I'm not sure when the following was inserted rather randomly into the lead:
:The North Alantic Right Whale are endangered due to their swimming course. When they regulary travel through a course, they pass the U.S.Navy Military Sonar training. Sonar Training is a device used to track war submarines underwater. When the waves from the Sonar activates, the waves may deafen North Alantic Right Whales and other animals eardrums. The other animals consist of dolphins, belugas, and other marine animals. Their hearing loss can result in getting hit by a ship due to their lack of attention or hearing.If you want more info on how to help these whales, please go to http://www.nrdc.org/action
But it is obviously inappropriate and I removed it.  Some of this information might be included in a "Current status/threats" section further down, but only if it is rewritten and sourced reliably. Best, Eliezg (talk) 22:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead

message: Someone should make use of the following news about North Atlantic Right Whales:
--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOAA hears North Alantic Right Whales.  

message: Shouldn't this page be at North Atlantic Right Whale according to the project page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Cetaceans, capital initial letters are agreed upon by consensus. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 23:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cetaceans#Capitalisation. Current consensus is to use sentence casing as is overwhelmingly common in relevant literature. --Swift (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: "'Adult right whales average 45–55 feet (14–17 m) in length and weigh up to seventy tons (63,500 kg);
 the largest measured specimens have been 60 feet (18 m) long and 117 tons (106,000 kg).'"
If line 1 is correct, Taking the upper average length of 55 feet (17 m) and assuming that would be 70 tons (63.5 metric tons),
then:
60 feet divided by 55 feet = 1.091
1.091 cubed = 1.299
1.299 x 63.5 metric tons = 82.5 metric tons
In short, a 60 foot (18m) individual with the same weight-to length ratio  as the upper average should weigh
90.75 tons (82.5 metric tons)
On the other hand, if line 2 is correct, then: 
55 feet divided by 60 feet = .917
.917 cubed = .771
.771 X  106 metric tons = 81.75 metric tons
IE: a 55 foot individual with the same weight-to-length ratio as the largest specimen should weigh
90 tons (81.75 metric tons, not 70 tons (63.5 metric tons)
Jdaniel314 (talk) 18:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight-to-length ratio of largest recorded specimen suspicious. 

message: A number of the entries in the "recent sightings" table are poorly sourced.  A blog titled "WHO HAS AN IDEA WHAT ANIMAL WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE?" is an unreliable, primary source and isn't suitable for Wikipedia. We shouldn't be collating amateur reports of sightings, but recording what reliable sources report. I propose that the more poorly sourced entries be removed from the list. Pburka (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent sightings - original research 

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message: Subsection 6.3 (Eastern Population) of the page states that it is hypothesised that some North Atlantic Right Whales might have historically summered or wintered in the Mediterranean Sea, but that there is no evidence. Could this study identifying North Atlantic Right Whale bones in ancient Mediterranean settlements suffice as sufficient evidence? http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/285/1882/20180961  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.201.17.114 (talk) 02:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Mediterranean Presence 

message: I have deleted multiple things telling how readers can report whale sightings, as this is incredible unencyclopedic. 
I would also recommend that editors check to make sure undue weight isn't given to certain environmental nonprofits. I found a couple examples of this, and the talk page contains clear evidence of NRDC vandalism in the past (see Lead section), so this is something we must look out for. Toad02 (talk) 19:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked into it more, and I believe the editor who added a bit of extra eight to the NRDC in relation to a legal case is actually an established editor called SaltWolf, who is almost certainly not just an NRDC advertiser. I think this shows that we need to be on guard against nonprofits twisting facts to make themselves seem more relevant.Toad02 (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a place to advertise, even for good causes 

message: — Assignment last updated by EcoBear13 (talk) 19:03, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: ENGW3303 Adv Writing for Environmental Professions 14387

message: Hi, as you can see above I am working on this article for a class this fall. I'll be updating the threats//climate change section with new data and reporting and tightening up the language, as well as updating the 2017 Unusual Mortality Section to reflect the link between climate change and the 2017 UME. EcoBear13 (talk) 19:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planned edits on climate change and UME