Talk:TVR Cerbera

message: Please upload a real image of the Speed 12. That's a Griffith.
The pic is lifted from the `TVR` article, there is claimed to be a Cerbera Is it not a Cerbera? Bear in mind the speed 12 was a different car.
R johnson 19:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I thought the S-series was Wheeler's first car from TVR, making the Cerb the 4th? Parrot of Doom (talk) 15:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third car? 

message: I've been looking around and saw its got about 18.56 mpg, but I've seen some people say 15 and some 20.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.92.88 (talk) 05:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What MPG Does It Get? 

message: got your source? Now I'm adding it. U1 quattro TALK 04:17, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BRD means Bold, Revert, Discuss. It does not mean re-revert back. I am restoring it until the discussion is complete.  Mr.choppers | ✎  04:26, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added the sources so there is no need for you to restore things because you haven't provided any source calling it a sports car. U1 quattro TALK 04:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You're violating WP:VERIFIABILITY for your own personal vandetta. U1 quattro TALK 04:45, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There are hundreds of sources calling it a sports car, as I am sure you are well aware. There are also hundreds of sources calling it a grand tourer. This is why there ought to be a discussion. And until you restore the original content as per WP:BRD I am not engaging with you.  Mr.choppers | ✎  23:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:BRD:  it is neither a policy, nor I'm required to follow that. Making me follow it won't help your case. I won't consider your opinions unless I see those "hundreds of sources" you're talking about. No I'm not aware of such sources unless you show those. The original content called it a grand tourer until you came about and disputed it. So you should be the one providing supporting evidence as you're the one disputing it. U1 quattro TALK 04:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been classified as a Sports Car in this article since it was created in April 2006 until you changed it recently. So clearly it is not as cut and dry as you seem to think it is.  Mr.choppers | ✎  13:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The article also had many other claims and was largely unsourced. You still have failed to show me those "hundreds of sources" which you claim classify it as a sports car. An error no matter how old it is is still an error. U1 quattro TALK 16:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been a sports car in WP, unopposed, for fourteen years. I am not saying it isn't possible that we should classify it as a grand tourer in the end, but before you change something so long standing you have to be prepared to have a conversation about it. IMO it has characteristics of both: it is uncomfortable, it is quite light, has a hairy engine and reportedly scary handling (sports car). It has a bit plush interior and is larger than its brethren, and it has a rather large engine (grand tourer). There is no clear distinction. I land on the side of sports car, but only by a slim majority. Hence, a conversation, involving a number of editors is in order before we change it.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a cited quote in the article which reads:  So not unfounded and already cited within the body of the article.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Tourer