Talk:Limnic eruption

message: There is a ton of info on the french team's website, as well as other sites, on the techniques they use to degas the lake as well as their results. This is the section that lacks the most needed data in my opinion.
: This would fit nicely under the 'Limnic eruption prevention' section.  See sample outline below. Revmachine21 07:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A possible solution: Degassing lakes

message: Dunno how to do the references, im throwing this here because it probably will need to be done.
:You can embed references into the body rather than in the 'External links' section like this .  Wiki will automatically number them for you.  Edit this section to see how this was accomplished.  Revmachine21 06:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding reference section, improving "See also" section

message: The Lake Nyos article claims the victims exhibited not merely skin discoloration, but actual burns. Is this true? If so, could it be because of the temperature of the CO2.. Or does it rather lend credence to the acid theory? Anyway it should be explained, or the claim of burns removed from the Lake Nyos article. Zargulon 14:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a reference  Revmachine21 12:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found no mention of "pressure ulcers" in that article. In fact, I've seen it most often claimed that the wounds were, in fact, frostbite from the carbon dioxide. You can find that information here, among other places. Ninja housewife (talk) 22:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Call for Clarification on State of Lake Nyos Victims

message: The Biblical plagues of Egypt is the first recorded occurence of limnic eruption (blood water, frogs, boils, CO2 death). Evidence was presented in a recent documentary on the History channel called "Exodus Decoded" by Simcha Jacobovici.  It should be noted in the historical section in some way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Decoded. rjp2006 Aug 21, 2006
: I'm not sure that the linked article has strong enough evidence to support a claim of limnic eruption in Exodus.  Furthermore, volcanic activity has indirect causal relationship, volcanic activity is not the direct cause of a limnic eruption.  Limnically active lakes are noted for lack of direct lakebed volcanic activity.  A different trigger like landslide, excessive rainfall is noted as more likely triggers.Revmachine21 11:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New evidence for historical occurences section 

message: Cleaned up and added some information on the degassing experiments and proposals.  If anyone knows what happened to the project reported in New Scientist in Jan 2003, please add to this. 165.222.186.195 11:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't have access to New Scientist (maybe you do) but I found the following. Refernece  Revmachine21 12:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible solution: Degassing lakes 

message: We have two articles,  Limnological catastrophe with Limnic eruption, on the same topic. This resulted from the translation of the Russian article to English with a less than comprehensive reserch on the existing literature. Recommend merging. Comments? Williamborg (Bill) 19:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest we merge. They basically cover the same material, and any good points stated in Limnological catastrophe can help improve the current status of Limnic eruption. --Nishkid64 01:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, Limnic eruption is the better article, unforutnately the Limnic eruption article reads like jibberish.  I realize that some points in the later article are better science, but it is impossible to read.  Revmachine21 13:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal - merge [[Limnological catastrophe]] with [[Limnic eruption]] 

message: Can organic matter alone cause an eruption? --Gbleem 03:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  organic matter 

message: I think an "up to date" version of the broken link about the equadorian lake mentioned above would be . It's a little bit down the page. 65.93.25.29 00:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Link 

message: Generally, phenomena such as limnic eruptions are initially natural hazards, especially if there are no recorded loss of life afterwards;  In addition, I can see plant life benefit from limnic eruptions (see photosynthesis)--IViking (talk) 15:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Disaster or Hazard?

message: I got to this article by running a Google search for the term "lake overturn", which I encountered at http://rcse.edu.shiga-u.ac.jp/gov-pro/plan/2008list/06-020605.pdf -- an article which says Tadlac Lake in Los Baños, Laguna in the Philippines undergoes an annual lake overturn.  The phenomenon they describe, however, apparently impacts only the fish population.  I'd like to request a clarification, please.  At what point does a lake's sudden release of Carbon Dioxide gas qualify as a 'lake overturn'?  If the Tadlac lake events qualify, then the statement 'To date, this phenomenon has been observed only twice' would no longer be true, and I these events should be mentioned in this article as well. On the other hand, this could simply be a misappropriation of the term, so I'd like to seek a clarification before I do any editing. - Alternativity (talk) 13:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay. So I guess my question is, are the Tadlac events indeed "lake overturns", and should they thus be represented in this article?  If they are not, then should they be called something else (something other than "lake overturns")? Or if they are "lake overturns", but not "limnic explosions", should we thus create a separate page for the more general term "lake overturn"? I'm a bit confused. - Alternativity (talk) 11:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You do not mess up. The confusion takes place at the article. The article puts an equal sign between term «limnic eruption» and between  term «lake overturn». Sense of term  «limnic eruption» (which greater than term «lake overturn») in the article  is reduced in favor of term «lake overturn». At Lake Monoun and at Lake Nyos was an explosion of carbon dioxide (CO2) below the bottom of lakes.  An explosion of carbon dioxide (CO2) below the bottom of lakes  creates   the numerous subsequent phenomena, including the mixing ("overturn") of water in lakes. Changing the wording of this article or the creation of two other articles ("lake overturns", "limnic explosions") can eliminate the   confusion in this article.
I wish success in  editing of this tangled article.
188.112.170.48 (talk) 14:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi, based on a quick read of the RCSE website, what is described there does qualify as a limnic eruption, albeit, a minor one.  Based on the large monetary loss in the lake's fishing industry, this also qualifies as a natural disaster even though people did not die.  I definitely support adding the lake to the Limnic Eruption article.  I think there are some nuances to this lake's eruption mechanism that deviate from Nyos and Monoun (is there volcanic activity nearby? seems no? What is the trigger?  Seems like change in ambient temperature?  this isn't the case in the African lakes) Revmachine21 (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Subject of the article: Limnic Eruption-a rare type of natural disaster in which carbon dioxide (CO2) suddenly erupts from deep lake water, suffocating wildlife, livestock and humans.According  http://rcse.edu.shiga-u.ac.jp/gov-pro/plan/2008list/06-020605.pdf,  in Tadlac Lake, during the  overturn, at surface-water arises "...deficit in the supply of dissolved oxygen (DO ) ... " (" ... fish kill period where the DO was less than 3 mg / L.. "). This phenomenon is not a disaster in which carbon dioxide (CO2) suddenly erupts from deep lake water, suffocating wildlife, livestock and humans.Therefore Tadlac Lake is not the subject  of this article  "Limnic Eruption".
188.112.170.48 (talk) 22:10, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tadlac Lake in Los Baños, Laguna, Philippines 

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