Talk:Halabja

message: Not a big issue, but  I think long picture captions - more than two or three lines -  are unwieldy. Information about the producers of the poison gas belong in the main text, not in the picture caption. --Vindheim 10:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  image caption 

message: The Halabja gas attack  is usually not considered part of the al-anfal campaign, which was designed to  empty the countryside of  its kurdish population.  However poison gas was widely used by the baathists throughout the anfal campaign proper, killing and maiming people of all ages in hundreds of villages. --Vindheim 10:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halabja not part of the anfal campaign 

message: 1)Encyclopedias don't note "brutally repressing yet another" anything.
2)Why have you removed my sourced references to the chemicals themselves?
3)"The attack, said to have involved mustard gas, nerve agent and possibly cyanide." -- not a sentence.
4)Your "source" absolutely does not state or allege that the weapons used at Halabja originated in China, USA, Germany, anywhere.  It states that a
newspaper (...) cited German assistance allegedly given to Iraq for the development of poison gas used in the 1988 massacre of Kurds in northern Iraq.
Not only is "assistance" not necessarily weapons materiel, nowhere is it alleged that the particular weapons used at Halabja originated in China, USA, etc.  If it were possible to actually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that USA and China exported tons of Sarin, Tabun, and Mustard to Iraq, this STILL would not substantiate your statement that the ACTUAL weapons used at Halabja were those particular weapons.
But that's absurd anyway, because no one private company exists to simply ship Sarin to waiting customers.  What you actually mean to allege by this article is that ingredients, precursors, and possibly even information were shipped to Iraq:  not actual mustard gas.  I really think you've misread the allegations of Western businesses selling equipment and chemicals to Iraq as Dupont sending nuclear weaponry to Iraq:  and with that you've completely misread your own source. 
http://www.cbwinfo.com/Chemical/Blister/HD.shtml
http://www.cbwinfo.com/General/Proliferation/Thiodiglycol.html
DBaba 22:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of weapon sourcing, and various unencyclopedic minutiae 

message: I have accepted this case in response to a mediation request made here. I come to this case with no prior opinion concerning the controversy, no prior involvement with the article in question, and without knowing or having conversed with any of the editors involved in the dispute. Mediation services provided by the Mediation Cabal and the editors who take on case requests are an informal mediation alternative, and the opinions I express are in no way binding. My job is to help the disputing editors (listed as DBaba and Spahbod) and other interested editors build consensus concerning the disputed content, and to direct editors' attention to relevant Wikipedia standards and policies toward that end.
To avert an endless revert war, I suggest that the editors leave the disputed section as is while we try to work toward consensus. The disputed section currently reads "According to Iraqi documents, assistance in developing chemical weapons was obtained from firms in countries like the United States, West Germany, the United Kingdom, France and China." A dispute tag might be appropriate, but please retain this text until consensus is reached.
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thread_title: Mediation concerning chemical bombing of Halabja

message: I do not even see what the problem is, everything i included here is sourced, user DBaba came and reverted 2 times claiming my source does not say chemical weapons etc, then he included something in the article without discussing it here or in summary. So did TomTheHand. Their statements are not true, as the source proves it. I don't see why the user that requested for mediation thinks by doing so he can remove backed material, but i do appreciate that, because now i don't have to revert his deletion of material every day :). --Spahbod ☼ 02:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by Spahbod

message: As you can see in Spahbod's comments, I am involved in this as well.  My involvement came initially when Spahbod made the edit seen here.  He made similar edits to many related articles, like Halabja poison gas attack here, Iran-Iraq War here, and chemical warfare here.
The source cited in these captions is the LA Weekly, an alternative weekly which is not a reliable source.  I removed the captions on this basis.  Spahbod replaced the captions and added an additional source, The Independent.  I have no problem with this source, but he continued to list LA Weekly, and the caption made statements that were not made by The Independent.  I continued to remove the caption, stating that he needed to remove the unreliable source and rewrite the caption using solely information from the reliable one.  He stated that since I was unhappy with the caption, it was my responsibility to edit it.  I said that this contradicted WP:V. This went back and forth for a while, until he finally modified the caption.
I recently edited the caption here to more accurately reflect the content of the source, which states that the firms in the countries in question supplied aid but did not state that they supplied chemical weapons themselves.  Spahbod reverted my edit, saying "i told you before about reverting sourced material, the source clearly states they delivered chemical wepoans and know how, do not remove sourced material again."  Spahbod was then banned for being a sock puppet of a banned user.  I reverted back to my version which more accurately reflects the source, and made similar edits to the captions on the other pages.
I was also recently involved in a dispute with Spahbod about the size of the Iranian flag on Iran-Iraq War.  The Iranian flag uses a different, wider aspect ratio than the Iraqi flag.  Some users were setting the flags to the same width, which made the Iranian flag less tall and smaller overall than the Iraqi flag.  Spahbod was setting the flags to the same height, which made the Iranian flag wider and larger than the Iraqi flag.  I calculated a width which would give the flags equal surface area and set the width accordingly.  Spahbod edit warred with me, saying that he did not care if they were of equal area, because the Iranian flag didn't look big enough to him and it needed to be larger.  See Talk:Iran-Iraq War#Size of flags.
All of this is kind of moot, as Spahbod has been banned indefinitely as a sock puppet of User:Darkred. TomTheHand 14:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by TomTheHand

message: Since Spahbod has been banned indefinitely, and since he was the one with whom the other involved editors disagreed, I will be closing this mediation. Thankyou. Rohirok 20:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by Rohirok (mediator)

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