Talk:Ramallah

message: Ramallah and Al Bireh has more twin cities than sighted here, I know for a fact that the french city of Bordeaux is a sister city of Ramallah.
See Ramallah's official webpage http://www.ramallah.ps/english.aspx and this brochure about the subject from the same site http://www.ramallah.ps/pics/partners.pdf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.205.48.12 (talk) 11:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Twin cities

message: I made a change that should be non-controversial, but just in case, felt like I should point it out. There is no such thing as an "Jewish-only" road in Israel, neither legally or in practice. Israeli-only roads, as in for cars traveling with Israeli license plates, are used by Israeli Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike. - Californian, 10/1/2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.197.224 (talk) 05:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small change 

message: Ram is defined as a "hill" - so Ram Allah would mean Hill of God
 In the Scriptures  it can be found that the Empire of the Lord RAM (Bharat Varsha) span to the Entire world .
 This was the Time when No Religion was practicised more than 7000 Yrs. Which is much before existense of any known modern religion .
 SO definately it has a connection of Lord RAM and later the word Allah came with religion of Islam. Similarly is the hindu Kush Valley in Afganistan 
 Which was a territory of KUSH the elder Son of Lord RAM .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.41.84.80 (talk) 12:34, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hill (opolis in latin) often refers to city. Ramallah means "city of god," last I checked.Dean Sayers 11:07, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ram in Arabic is the past form of Yaroum "يروم" and means either "pursued" or "willed / destined" depending on the context, here it means "God willed" , the word is used in classic Arabic and not in everyday arabic by the way Habibko 08:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: ^ The "Ram" in the city Ramallah is from the old Aramaic word meaning High place or Mountain, the Aramaic language has been in Palestine for thousands of years, civilizations in Palestine and the surrounding holy land, even the rest of the Mediterranean are among the oldest civilizations on the Planet, going back many tens of thousands of years.  The Allah in Ram is modern Arabic for God/Lord but stems from the Aramaic word for God/Lord "Elah", so many hundreds of years before Islam and even Christianity and Judaism, Ramallah would have been just that, Ramelah to it's inhabitants.  Lazyfoxx (talk) 05:41, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ram 

message: the article states that there were 8 main families in ramallah that modern day people can trace thier ancestry to, was wondering if anyone could point out these 8 family names. just checking moms side, since i know my  dad's family migrated from Yafa after one of the wars.7areega 20:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  8 Families of Ramallah 

message: This article has quite a few obstacles in the way of a GA nomination. They are the following:
*Urgent need to cleanup and verify the enormous history section of the article. There is a lot of insignificant material that should be either removed or relocated to another section.
*Needs a Demographics section which will deal with its population, religious make-up, refugees, gender make-up, etc.
*Needs a Economy section dealing with labor force, main economic centers, shopping, tourism, industry of any sort, communications, etc
*Needs a Transportation section dealing with roads, closures and transport stations.
*Needs a Geography and climate section.
*Needs expansion on Government to include mentions on seats of municipal council, mayoral law and dominant political parties.
*More elaboration Culture section.
*Rewrite of lead.
*More verification throughout the article.
--Al Ameer son (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do list 

message: All sorts of problems, particularly no mention of refugees and patchy references to occupation. 94.116.0.198 (talk) 15:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: So why the other are not called "occupation" too? Like Jordanian occupation so so on? 
It is funny so read "trusted by other Arabs" when Jordan was also a product of imperialism as other countries in the region which borders were drawn without taking into account local populations. And it si ridiculous now that some people are very pround to be Egyption, or Iraq which are product of European colonialism.
Even if it was trusted by other Arabs to take care of the Arabs in in British Mandate they were enforcing their agenda and never supported a Palestinian State, instead thei annexed man parts of the country.Targumferera (talk) 10:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: For one thing; when Jordan annexed the West Bank, the people there were give equal rights as the rest of the population. Say, as anyone in Amman.  The population of Ramallah does´t "quite" have the same rights as the people of Tel Aviv, do they?  And if the international community had treated  Israel and Jordan equally, then few countries would have accepted Israel outside the borders given in United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine.  Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:45, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

text: Since it's not about content dispute, but user editing habits, I've replied here. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 09:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Here we go. This section is about three things: 1) Jordanian occupation (whole of it), 2) the beginning of Israeli occupation and 3) the part of the period of Israeli occupation, in which Ramallah was managed by Israeli Civil Administration. Basically, Ramallah is still occupied by Israel, but managed by Palestinian Authority. Thus, naming this section "Jordanian and Israeli occupation" is ambiguous, for the later periods (covered in sections 1.5 First Intifada, 1.6 Second Intifada, 1.7 Most important city in the Palestinian territories) do belong to the period of Israeli occupation too. And additional reason: the discussed section deals mostly with the management aspect of occupation, rather then with other aspects, such as resistance to occupation, law enforcement by military force, economical aspects of occupation, rights violation, 4th Geneva convention, etc. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 20:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm not admin, what makes you think I am? The rest is your opinion, not backed by sources, sorry. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 10:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israeli occupation 

message: I see that User:Al Ameer son already in 2008 asked for more sources...after all these years it is still a major problem. I can find no sources for:
*2.1 The Paleolithic and Neolithic Eras
*2.2 The Chalcolithic Era and Bronze Age
*2.3 The Iron Age
..Finkelstein has none. I suggest we just remove those sections. Another big problem is the "modern foundation" myth, typical for Christian villages, that they escaped there to avoid a marriage of a daughter to a Muslim. This is a common myth (see e.g. Rafidia)...and wrong, as modern research (see e.g. Ellenblum) shows a continuos  Christian presence from the Byzantine era until today, in those places which are still Christian today. See also the  1597 daftar-numbers. I simply think we need to cut them out, or down in size, or make very sure that they appear as what they are: myths.  Cheers, Huldra (talk) 16:23, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have many issues of PEFQSt but not this one.  I ordered it. Zerotalk 23:14, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huge problems here 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Ramallah. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111105032756/http://www.ramallah.ps/etemplate.aspx?id=81 to http://www.ramallah.ps/etemplate.aspx?id=81
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20150220110247/http://www.btselem.org/english/family_separation/origins.asp to http://www.btselem.org/english/Family_Separation/Origins.asp
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090712042326/http://www.jmcc.org/research/special/military.html to http://www.jmcc.org/research/special/military.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110927113622/http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Chapter18_3of10.htm to http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Chapter18_3of10.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120317060702/http://www.wider.unu.edu/publications/dps/dps2002/dp2002-100.pdf to http://www.wider.unu.edu/publications/dps/dps2002/dp2002-100.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090111001943/http://www.badil.org:80/e-library/Resident_PA.htm to http://www.badil.org/e-library/Resident_PA.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100612000219/http://icph.birzeit.edu/Emergencey%20Publications/Child%20Report%20final%202002.pdf to http://icph.birzeit.edu/Emergencey%20Publications/Child%20Report%20final%202002.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20121124050115/http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=157479&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y to http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=157479&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110225142355/http://www.eappi.org:80/ar/news-events/ea-reports/r/browse/17/article/4837/quaker-meeting-in-ramalla.html to http://www.eappi.org/ar/news-events/ea-reports/r/browse/17/article/4837/quaker-meeting-in-ramalla.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111006013154/http://iwp.uiowa.edu/91st/vol4_n1/pdfs/keulemans.pdf to http://iwp.uiowa.edu/91st/vol4_n1/pdfs/keulemans.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080319232359/http://www.ramallah.ps:80/etemplate.aspx?id=3 to http://www.ramallah.ps/etemplate.aspx?id=3
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20101222185339/http://www.jerusalemites.org:80/jerusalem/cultural_dimensions/71.htm to http://www.jerusalemites.org/jerusalem/cultural_dimensions/71.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110927054554/http://www.trondheim.com/content.ap?thisId=93081934 to http://www.trondheim.com/content.ap?thisId=93081934
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 04:47, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have noted a edit war from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huldra with regards to 3RR rules where the words "Palestine" snd "Palestinian" were 
a) used without being necessary or adding any information
b) used without clarification as to what entities it was made reference.
I have warned the infringing user to stop. I hope she will. Adir Bar Yohanan (talk) 23:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing controversial about using "Palestinian" about Ramallah: 3 editors have reverted you, while you have edit-warred. I am reporting you to 3RR-board, Huldra (talk) 23:15, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes the use of the word "Palestinian" and "Palestine" is controversial as follows
The proper noun "Palestine" is not an unambiguous entity. It can mean several things as detailed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine. 
Consequently, the derived adjective "Palestinian", as it means somehting pertaining to "Palestine", is equally ambiguous.
Using these words must
- comply with Wikipedia rules on neutrality and 
- must facilitate an informative reading rather than a politicised one.
You and your friends Nableezy and Al Ameer son are conspiring to revert to confusing language and are kindly asked to desist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adir Bar Yohanan (talk • contribs) 00:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Im sorry, your personal feelings on the ambiguity of a common demonym arent really important here. And I for one will pay them the attention they are worth. nableezy - 01:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Palestine" & "Palestinian" 

message: Request protection against vandalism and edit wars waged by politically motivated writting. Adir Bar Yohanan (talk) 09:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is you who is disrupting and edit-warring on this article. Zerotalk 10:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Plus, the original requester has been blocked. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:31, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request protection 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Ramallah. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160102005326/http://www.ramallah-city.org/history.htm to http://www.ramallah-city.org/history.htm
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160102005326/http://www.eappi.org/eappi.nsf/index/rep-ah-05012804.html to http://www.eappi.org/eappi.nsf/index/rep-ah-05012804.html
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160102005326/http://www.ourfatherlutheran.net/biblehomelands/palestine/westbank.htm to http://www.ourfatherlutheran.net/biblehomelands/palestine/westbank.htm
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160102005326/http://www.prc.org.uk/palestine%2048/ramallah.html to http://www.prc.org.uk/palestine%2048/ramallah.html
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160102005326/http://www.jnewswire.com/article/862 to http://www.jnewswire.com/article/862
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 16:40, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 9 external links on Ramallah. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111029211841/https://www.palfriends.org/schoolhistory.php to http://www.palfriends.org/schoolhistory.php
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110927024336/http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Displayarticle.asp?section=middleeast&xfile=data%2Fmiddleeast%2F2006%2Fjanuary%2Fmiddleeast_january34.xml to http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Displayarticle.asp?section=middleeast&xfile=data%2Fmiddleeast%2F2006%2Fjanuary%2Fmiddleeast_january34.xml
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100603050907/http://www.brookings.edu/interviews/2009/0114_west_bank_gaza_dhillon.aspx to http://www.brookings.edu/interviews/2009/0114_west_bank_gaza_dhillon.aspx
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081119061257/http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/phc_97/ram_t6.aspx to http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/phc_97/ram_t6.aspx
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081119061326/http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/phc_97/ram_t1.aspx to http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/phc_97/ram_t1.aspx
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090304011608/http://pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/populati/pop07.aspx to http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_pcbs/populati/pop07.aspx
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101210081942/http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_PCBS/Downloads/book1487.pdf to http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_PCBS/Downloads/book1487.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140528005553/https://www.radioformula.com.mx/notas.asp?Idn=396158 to http://www.radioformula.com.mx/notas.asp?Idn=396158
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050813024438/http://www.sakakini.org/ to http://www.sakakini.org/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:25, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Ramallah. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081029233225/http://www.ramallahlaoc.org/history.aspx to http://ramallahlaoc.org/history.aspx
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071223214116/http://www.koolpages.com/wael2003/history.htm to http://www.koolpages.com/wael2003/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131011153642/http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/b43bb37dd727f0c0852570120072d4f6?OpenDocument to http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/b43bb37dd727f0c0852570120072d4f6?OpenDocument
*Added archive http://webarchive.loc.gov/all/20021201010732/http://zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?sectionid=22&itemid=2075 to http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=22&ItemID=2075
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:47, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Yasser Arafat established his West Bank headquarters, the Mukataa, in Ramallah. Although considered an interim solution, Ramallah became the de facto capital of the Palestinian Authority, now officially known as the State of Palestine.
Changed to:
Yasser Arafat established his West Bank headquarters, the Mukataa, in Ramallah. Although considered an interim solution, Ramallah became the de facto capital of the Palestinian Authority.
Note: There is no State of Palestine. Wallstreetobserver (talk) 03:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Consensus is required to make this change. Please see Legal status of the State of Palestine and International recognition of the State of Palestine for more information as to why this request has been declined. Waddie96 (talk) 07:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 August 2018 

message: Perhaps because of the recent (and excellent) documentary about his second term as Mayor of Ramallah, Musa Hadid now has a wikipedia page! It only makes sense that his page might be linked in the infobox by someone with the proper clearance. Eggsandmarxism (talk) 05:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Eggsandmarxism:  Huldra (talk) 20:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musa Hadid 

message: A good book to add to the bibliography would be Maya Abu Al-Hayat, editor, The Book of Ramallah (Comma Press 2021).Nutmeg39 (talk) 00:03, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add to Bibliography 

message: Jerusalem is the capital of palestine, Ramallah is just a city 2603:6011:7903:41F9:CC17:D256:DDB5:E113 (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jerusalem is the capital of palestine, Ramallah is just a city 

message: Since my previous request was not answered, please add the flag of Ramallah: 
It can be seen here, and here. Strenatos (talk) 23:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See here, it is a symbol used by Ramallah municipality in various forms but I see no evidence that it is used as a flag. Selfstudier (talk) 14:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: but right here it is on a flagpole https://images.alwatanvoice.com/news/images/3910366764.jpg Strenatos (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really a flagpole, that's the symbol again at some sort of presentation. What is needed is a reliable source that says it was approved as a flag, when, by who,  what it represents etcetera. Actually, the same even just for the symbol. Selfstudier (talk) 10:48, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ramallah Flag 

message: Wellington, New Zealand voted this year to add Ramallah as a sister city - would someone with the appropriate access be able to add Wellington to the sister city section?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/wellington/132436582/wellington-city-council-votes-for-a-sister-city-in-palestine AtticEdit (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New sister city! 

message: At the first mention of PNA, please add 'Palestinian National Authority' in parentheses. GraueEule (talk) 07:50, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 December 2023 

message: In the Culture section of this page, the first paragraph references several restaurants/cafes including the "Stars and Bucks Cafe," which links to the page for the American corporation, Starbucks. This is an incorrect link and actually references a separate Palestinian cafe chain that capitalizes on the brand awareness of Starbucks. The link should be removed or changed to link an article discussing the viral knock-off status of Stars and Bucks. 
https://dontstopliving.net/thirsty-thursdays-stars-and-bucks-coffee-bethlehem-palestine/
https://www.facebook.com/starsandbuckscafe 2601:445:600:2DA0:442A:13D0:EC5B:7EBC (talk) 15:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There was an article about the  "Stars and Bucks Cafe" which was merged, following a deletion discussion, into the main Starbucks article but subsequently the material has been edited out. I changed the link to the deletion discussion instead, that seems simplest. Selfstudier (talk) 15:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 January 2024