Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Archive 2

message: Does anybody know where to find chart positions for UK, Australia, Jamaica, etc? Tuf-Kat
:Here's a whole buncha charts: 
:And more 
Neither of these are very useful.  Does anybody know who does the official charts, as much as there is one, and/or know of a site that includes archives? Tuf-Kat
:ARIA does the official charts in Australia. --Grover9 08:53, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-US chart positions

message: I've been doing geographical music articles (e.g. Music of Cuba).  Would it be useful to make redirects from subjecs which might be more likely to be searched for?  (e.g. Music of San Francisco or Pashtun music redirecting to Music of California and Music of Afghanistan, respectively). Tuf-Kat 03:45, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirects to geographical articles

message: Open question: What if a band released only one album under the same name (e.g. MDFMK?) One article? Separate articles (MFDMK and MFDMK (album))? —LarryGilbert 17:38, 2004 Mar 9 (UTC)
:Excuse the move, I didn't want to clutter the main page with an answer.  I would say one article would be best - unless there is enough to say about the band and the album to justify two articles.  If so they would be at whatever and whatever (album).  -- sannse (talk) 17:49, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Eponymous albums

message: I have an idea for a new page which I want to discuss with people before I launch it - I thought that this might be the place to discuss it with other people interested in Music, but please let me know if you think there's a 
more appropriate place to talk about this.
I'd like to create a page which lists the origin of 'interesting' band names.
In particular, I think I'd like to list bands whose names are taken from works of literature, films, songs by other artists, etc, with a brief description of the origin of the name. 
Obvious examples are Mott the Hoople, Uriah Heep, Joy Division, you get the idea.
I don't think it should exclude (say) ABBA, whose name may not be inspired by another cultural work, but whose origin is not obvious unless you know it.
I know this is not strictly encyclopedic, but I do think that this an interesting area to look at and its certainly of a more encyclopedic nature than (say) List_of_song_titles_phrased_as_questions, fun though
that page is.
So my questions are:
Any suggestions for the name of the page?
List of bands with an interesting name - doesn't quite do it for me.
Origin of band names - better, but maybe too all-encompassing. I think that the list should not include the origin of 'obvious' bandnames like The Dave Clark 5, but I think that it should include bands like ABBA.
Any ideas?
Where are the best/ most appropriate places to 'advertise' that this page exists? Would it be appropriate to link it to List_of_song_titles_phrased_as_questions
and its sister pages which are linked to at the bottom? 
Any other suggestions?
--Bwmodular 16:25, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Band name origins

message: I'd just like to announce that I have begun Wikipedia:WikiProject Music genres. Tuf-Kat 03:52, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
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Do local/infamous bands deserve an article? Should they be mentioned in the article about their genre, or in a related article like, for instance, 'List of local metal bands'? I'm actually thinking about the genre Grindcore and the band Purulent excretor.
Ukuk 21:14, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Genres Project

message: What is the rationale for changing anything from "musical" to music. Hyacinth 20:51, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not being careful at noting what was already there. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:39, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Music vs Musical

message: What does "music people" mean? Hyacinth 20:57, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: People involved in music, somehow. Trying to be more inclusive than just musicians/composers to include theorists, music writers, record producers, etc.  Have you a better name? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:39, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Music people

message: I think we need to come up with new stub templates under :Category:Music stubs. Right now we have only    .  I think we need  as they don't fit in with musicians and some kind of category for instrumental pieces as they don't fit in songs.  That's about all I've come up with.  Music is a very large stub category and there's probably a lot of material we'd be interested in going through if we can sort it out.  How else can we divide all these articles? Genre, time period, nationality, music companies, bands, musicology? I'm not sure the best direction and I don't want to go about making templates yet if they won't be useful. --Sketchee 02:54, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
:I'm also not sure what the best way is; it seems like a non-trivial classification problem.  Here's some ideas that come to mind for a few categories:
::classical composition stub 
:::If there's a lot, they could be subcategorized:  , , , etc.
::opera stub 
::music theory stub 
::music history stub 
::musical instrument stub 
::instrumentalist stub 
:::(or subcategorize here:  , , etc.
:::(or for ensembles: , , etc.
::era stubs might be useful for general topics, like a Baroque music stub, but many of the topics that might go in this category seem categorizable another way.
:And since that's a bit of a Eurocentric list, we could also add:
::, , etc. 
:Having a lot of categories for stubs isn't necessarily a bad thing; it might even be a good idea. To my mind, having a couple hundred stubs in a single category is a sign we need to refine our categorization, so I'm glad to see this topic come up.  Hmmm....  Antandrus 03:12, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music stubs