Talk:Bili ape

message: Any particular reason Mr. Bili has no taxonomy box, nor phylogeny diagram? Considering the topic, it would be of interest, if simply to make its location immediately clear. Objections? Handibles (talk) 02:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. This article is confusing for several reasons (as pointed out by other users below), but I think the easiest fix would be to have a taxonomy box that clarifies exactly what these animals are. Right now this whole article reads like a cryptozoology article. Connorlong90 (talk) 21:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: lack of phylogenic info

message: just in case anyone takes a weedwhacker to this article (and it needs one) please keep in mind that when it was started, inline cites weren't common.  it seems that what is listed as External links may in fact be the references for the article.  Those of us passing thru should try and fix these references as inline cites when we can. Thanks.LiPollis 12:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I have moved most of them up into a reference section and have been moving some to the footnote system - I suspect most of the requests for sources and quotes can all be referenced using those links. I can't work out what "(Cleve Hicks, March 2007)" refers to but if anyone can find it drop it in the reference section (prefereably footnoted). (Emperor 13:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Note:  External Links may be the references

message: Bili Apes are just big chimps which are less and less like Gorilla's the more thet is learned about them. The article points this out is some places but then contradicts is in many others. Overall an absolutely horrible article. .—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.244.90 (talk • contribs) 02:02, 02 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know - a new subspecies of chimpanzee that is larger than other chimps and that sometimes nests on the ground is pretty interesting to me, even without all the sensationalism. thx1138 (talk) 21:54, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Its not a new subspecies - the "Bili apes" are known to be a population of the Eastern chimpanzee Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii. Recorded behaviour in the Bili - Ebola area appears to be diffeent from that in many other groups, but so is the behaviour of several groups within P.t. verus and P.t. vellerosus. This page should be deleted altogether, with some aspects perhaps transferred to the main "Common chimpanzee" page.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.46.236.142 (talk) 14:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. As this population exhibits behavior that is far different than the rest of Pan, it deserves it's own article.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up

message: Parts of the entry use both varients, the wiki entry on Karl Amman uses one n, but his website two. I know this is a very minor nitpick, but surely it can't be that hard to get someone's surname right? I initialy went by the Wiki entry on him, and removed the second 'n', but i think if his own website is anything to go buy, then it should be double n here and on the wiki entry on him.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.240.79.125 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Amman vs Ammann

message: Some articles refer to them as "grey", similar to the apes in Michael Crichton's Congo.  If people have seen them, why are there no pictures?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.29.167.236 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added one. --Cody.Pope 16:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Right, but I think this was part of the reason why this became a "media craze" years ago. People saw these odd pictures of these chimpanzees, and then it was hyped as "new, different apes",  before it was revealed to be bogus. I think from a historic point of view, it would be useful to also show these pictures on wikipedia. Not everyone knows that it was fake, so showing the  picture and explaining what was wrong with it may be useful for common visitors. 2A02:8388:1641:5500:8207:8CE:DF2:AB90 (talk) 16:26, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any Pictures? 

message: Whats with the cryptzoology and paranormal tags? And the article contradicts itself and repeats alot of the information. Needs a look at by someone with a fair knowledge of the ape. Kokiri kid 09:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It should not. It was some promotional thing years ago. I did not even notice it back then. Only recently it was mentioned on Rogan's podcast, and I never heard of these apes. Then I found out quickly that it was bogus, but I did not see the picture again (the first picture looked weird, like a mangled chimpanzee). 2A02:8388:1641:5500:8207:8CE:DF2:AB90 (talk) 17:27, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Paranormal?

message: And what about the picture? Is it real? Is it a regular chimp?
--Damifb (talk) 22:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. But people initially wondered, so I think it would be useful to clearly state when these pictures were made, and whether these were the initial ones. Right now I see none of these pictures on the wikipedia article. 2A02:8388:1641:5500:8207:8CE:DF2:AB90 (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  It is said to exist? 

message: Have any DNA tests been done on either the "lion killers" with
sagittal crest or the "tree-beaters" that Cleve Hicks is studying?
The only studies I can find claim that mtDNA ( mother ) is Chimpanzee
which would indicate a hybrid but really doesn't prove anything.
A pointer to actual results would improve the article.
Somitcw (talk) 23:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any DNA tests? 

message: This section is redundantly repetitive, anyone want to clean it up? 75.121.137.23 (talk) 20:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morphology and physiology 

message: The height and weight of the Bili Ape should be listed on this page  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.15.20 (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Find a reliable source that medntions either one and they can be added. Heiro 22:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I've tagged this cite:
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as having failed verification because: 
The issue came up because of a dispute (between a bot  and ) over the characterization of 220 mm as being "well beyond the range of" 190–210 mm. To me, it was a subjective statement that may depend on knowledge of how tight a range that is in this field, so I went to see if the source provided that characterization, and found it did not discuss it, so I removed the characterization.
If the source is needed (in the four places it is used), perhaps someone can fix it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad cite 

message: I've tried fixing the spacing on two separate devices, to no success Red dwarf (talk) 07:16, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry for messing up the first paragraph 

message: Quite a bit of repetition in the article, particularly the stuff about the chimps circling humans, and an odd phrase  "exchange longing glances" which I think might be from a Cole Porter song. 
Will clean up the repetition, unless there are any objections..? 
Robin J Thomson (talk) 01:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longing glances?