Talk:Triumph of the Will

message: "thriumph of the will" isn't really censored in germany. there just are some legal restrictions because it's classified as nazi propaganda. it's not allowed to display it publically unless it's for educational purposes and together with a critical treatment of the whole subject.
:Thanks for the explanation. Ellsworth 22:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Since the war, the film is banned in Germany under laws prohibiting Nazi propaganda." Does anyone have a citation for either of these?  I don't want it up unless I can footnote it. Palm_Dogg 19:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want, you can cite §86 of the StGB (german criminal law). It states that distribution of unconsititional propaganda in Germany is forbidden, except for educational purposes. -- Yoghurt 23:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite. §86 StGB is only about unconstitutional symbols. Symbols are not the main problem with this film. You are right that it is unconstitutional propaganda and that's why the courts require an educational context to public screenings. I've updated the text along these lines and referenced a source. --EnOreg (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censorship 

message: Note: This is taken verbatim from a conversation I had with the editor of Das Blaue Licht. Palm_Dogg 19:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The one point that seems to be ignored is that the film was released in 1935.  The 70 years of copyright protection expired after Dec. 31, 2005.  Simple arithmetic! Eclecticology 00:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's 70 years after the death of the creators. And that applies only to current films. For older ones, other rules may apply. In the U.S., the copyright for pre-1978 films can be renewed for up to 95 years. Ebab (talk) 20:34, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Status 

message: This film was removed from the public domain, in accordance with the GATT treaty. http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/1996/61fr46133.html  I therefore removed the PD tag from the article. 69.110.235.152 (talk) 03:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright was restored in 1996 

message: I have added notes on Himmler and Heydrich for the prior crisis which chnaged the direction of the film.86.155.210.225 (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Night of the Long Knives

message: None of the following list of edits have edit summaries nor are additions cited to reliable sources.
* – no cite for "historically important film"; no reason given for removal of the link to [[Films considered the greatest ever;
* – Goebbels already linked; no cite for "a copy was found in England in the 1990's";
* – "a major" to "an indirect" changed without citation or supporting rationale;
* – No supporting citation for this addition;
* – This edit is not contested; should have had an edit summary;
* – No supporting citation for this addition;
* – Image is inappropriate because it is not related to, or taken from, and post-dates Triumph of the Will
—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP Editor's unsupported unexplained changes and why I reverted them 

message: The quotation in the Legacy section is a little problematic because it is attributed to "Nicholas Reeves". Few readers will probably discover that Dr. Nicholas Reeves, an English historian, is not the contemporaneous and wikilinked Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves. This could be fixed by someone who might create a stub for the unwikilinked Reeves, and then disambiguate them somehow, but for such an uncontroversial assertion, I don't believe it's necessary to include the historian's name at all and I made a change like that here. SteveStrummer (talk) 00:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicholas Reeves

message: Hardly NPOV, is it? --124.183.87.78 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: your point is extremely well taken. see also is a HUGE open sore and loophole for expressing POV. its very much abused. i agree that both are propaganda, so my personal point of view likes that link, but as an editor, its repulsive. the connection is only supported by an unstated POV. if a major film critic compared them, then we would mention that in "influences" sections. for detailed articles like this, see also should be mostly to broader articles that can be linked in the body, such as "list of german propaganda films" if no writer could figure out how to put it in the body. PS heres some POV OR: Trump has twice referred a triumph of the will of the West, and is currently asking congress to submit to the will of the voters. I can guarantee he would love to make a film called triumph of the will :)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:49, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also: Zero Dark Thirty 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think the English translation of the last line of the prologue needs improvement. I am by no means an expert in German, but "Heer" was the word for the German Army, so "Heerschau" would specifically have a military meaning that is not fully expressed by the English word "columns". Could someone whose German is better than mine take a look at this, bitte? 64.30.93.144 (talk) 14:07, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: On the subtitles from the copy in the Internet Archive the line is as: "Adolf Hitler flew once again to Nuremberg to hold a military display.".--User71131159 (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just changed the line.--User71131159 (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of prologue 

message: An RfC of possible interest to the editors of this article can be found here.
Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:31, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: An RfC of interest