Talk:Far Beyond the Stars

message: So why doesn't Benny Russell just sell his DS9 stories to one of the other science fiction magazines?  Herb Rossoff mentions Galaxy Magazine, and Galaxy's editor would have been happy to run a story like "Deep Space Nine", no matter what race the space station's commander was. Johnny Pez 01:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although politically more in-sync, perhaps, H. L. Gold was known for being rather difficult or downright irascible. The episode made the magazines out to be more of a "studio system" than seems at all reasonable, but it is true some writers had great difficulty transitioning to a different editor. It was a stretch on its part, but it's not impossible then for an author to think "if I can't sell this story to X, I just can't sell it." Such a thing still happens from time to time. (And stories with an African-American protagonist were actually not too common in SF at that time. Black characters were generally treated respectfully in old SF, but they tend to be supporting or from Africa)--T. Anthony (talk) 09:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do what Heinlein would do, leave it unstated until halfway or towards the end and then only acknowledge it obliquely. How many people notice the protagonist of Starship Troopers is Filipino or the protagonist of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is African-American? LamontCranston (talk) 02:27, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Manuel Garcia O'Kelly-Davis?! Wow, I gotta re-read. —Tamfang (talk) 05:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Other magazines

message: Is it me, or is the notion of a sci-fi story where the surprising twist is that the protagonist is black, and thus being harder to get away with printing, rather reminiscent of the case of Judgement Day?
Not suggesting the inclusion of anything that isn't independently sourced, but can any of you find any info on this? Haven't found anything myself, but it looks ludicrously obvious. 139.57.100.104 (talk) 21:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It leapt to my mind too... —Tamfang (talk) 20:14, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  EC Comics connection? 

message: When one searches for an article named "Benny Russell", one is redirected to Benjamin Sisko. Correct me if I am wrong, but since Far Beyond the Stars is the only occurrence of the character Benny Russell in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Benny Russell should redirect to Far Beyond the Stars and there should be a  template at the top of Far Beyond the Stars. Any comments? -Jangnathan (talk) 06:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me. —Tamfang (talk) 05:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from "Benny Russell" 

message: Hello! Just writing this here so no one in the future gets confused. It looks like the academic article I've cited here actually lists this Wikipedia article as a source. I don't think this is a case of circular referencing though- none of the facts or opinions I've cited seem to originate here. I would advise other people to be careful when citing it, though. TheAwesomeHwyh 15:14, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone adds Original Research to an article, that doesn't mean that any later source that makes the same connection is automatically invalid. The purpose of the OR rule is to prevent WP from publishing analysis that hasn't been vetted by a credible publisher, not to prevent temporal paradoxes. If a cited source qualifies as a Reliable Source, then we can use it, regardless of where they got the idea. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note on academic source