Talk:Weight transfer

message: Should the shifting of weight in the first paragraph be described as "imaginary"? The article implies that the effects are real and recognized by car designers. Is the issue that weight (mass * gravity) is not actually shifted, but the acceleration makes it look like weight is being shifted? Perhaps a better word would be "apparent", "perceived", "so-called", etc? -- Jacius 23:54, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It is wrong abysmal and misleading. I am going to cut all the stuff that is definitely wrong, please consider that the ONLY mechanism by which weight transfer as defined in this article can occur is if masses in the vehicle move with respect to the vehicle.  Greglocock (talk) 01:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The state of this article July 2009

message: Hi, Regular.Stormy, good article. Only thing is I am not quite with you what a 'load transfer moment arm' is (5th para). Do you think you could make that a bit plainer for us simple folk? Thanks. Dieter Simon 00:18, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moment arm?

message: Please explain how load transfer is "imaginary". If it were truly imaginary, why is it even worth discussing? As written, I don't think this subject is really separate from weight transfer. At any rate, it's not using the correct terminology to try to distinguish the two and may reflect a lack of understanding on the part of the author. Ham Pastrami 04:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The word "imaginary" has been removed. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imaginary? 

message: It appears that the auto industry (with references) uses weight transfer, while the motorcycle industry (with references) uses load transfer to describe the same phenomona: the measurable change of load borne by different wheels during acceleration. For this reason, we propose the intro paragraph should read something like: 
:Weight transfer and load transfer are two expressions used somewhat confusingly to describe two distinct effects: the change in load borne by different wheels of even perfectly rigid vehicles during acceleration, and the change in center of mass (CoM) location relative to the wheels because of suspension complience or cargo shifting or sloshing. In the automobile industry, weight transfer customarily refers to the change in load borne by different wheels during acceleration. This is more properly referred to as load transfer, and that is the expression used in the motorcycle industry, while weight transfer on motorcycles, to a lesser extent on automobiles, and cargo movement on either is due to a change in the CoM location relative to the wheels.
Comments? -Greglocock (talk) and AndrewDressel (talk) 13:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal  

message: "Center of mass" section has an example "in a 0.9g turn, a car with a track of 1650 mm and a CoM height of 550 mm will see a load transfer of 30% of the vehicle weight", which according to my calculation is correct, but then it goes on to say this means "the outer wheels will see 30% more load than before, and the inners 30% less". This seems wrong - is 30% of vehicle weight is transferred, this should mean outer wheels (which normally receive 50% of vehicle weight) now receive 50%+30% = 80% of vehicle weight, i.e. 60% more load than before (not 30% as the article claims).
I am however not an expert on the subject and am therefore doubting myself too much to correct the article myself.
Ahtih (talk) 14:24, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example calculation seems incorrect