Talk:Chinese New Year/Archive 1

message: What are those Romanizations beside the animal names ("Chicken-Yaw5")? It's not in Pinyin (ji1),  Wade-Giles (chi1), or Cantonese Romanization (gai1). They are apparently unfound elsewhere online.  Is it Vietnamese? If so, they don't belong to the '"Chinese" new year' page. --Menchi 07:00, Aug 3, 2003 (UTC)
They're not Vietnamese
128.195.100.62 10:07, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Text from before December 2003

message: In order to proceed in the discussion at Talk:Chinese New Years greetings, which has been deadlocked, I have started a poll at Talk:Chinese New Years greetings/Poll. Please provide us with your thoughts. enochlau (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poll 

message: Just to correct an error in my edit summary. "年年有余" = 190,000 hits . "年年有餘" = a paltry 1,820 hits . I would think it makes far more sense to use the former rather than later term.--Huaiwei 02:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not too sure how Huaiwei did the Google test. I got 49 600 and 19 600. — Instantnood 20:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 年年有余 vs 年年有餘

message: I'm wondering could someone check this history  It seems that an anonymous user delete everything including picture, caegories, interlanguage links. --manop 16:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The items were removed by 24.43.120.85 at 14:09 on 26 January 2006. Because of exstensive edits since then, I reinserted those items that you did not, rather than reverting to the last edit before his. — Joe Kress 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert edit 

message: On the German wikipedia page http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinesisches_Neujahr it mentions that the second day is rather the day where you would visit the family of the wife. Can anybody confirm which is correct? - Bernburgerin 10:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true in some places, but I don't think it's universal among all people who follow the festival. — Instantnood 20:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: second day

message: The section discussing Reunion dinner refers to New Year's Eve.  Is this the Chinese New Year's Eve or the Gregorian New Year's Eve.  If it is the first, the link is simply wrong...
--Sophroniscus 18:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reunion dinner 

message: Cluttered with all sorts of irrelevant info with no flow.  Some editors think adding all info makes an encyclopedia.  Someone do something about it. Mandel 08:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad article

message: This article did not go through the current GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2b of the GA quality standards. Only two references are provided, but one is mainly an article on activities to do for Chinese New Year. Please improve the citation of your sources, reexamine the article against the GA quality standards, and submit the article through the nomination process. RelHistBuff 11:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delisted GA

message: They used "an" instead of "a" when not needed!!!Cowloverdude 23:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  They misspelled 

message: Three sources provided by  Angelo_De_La_Paz say Chinese New Year is celebrated in China, Southeast Asia, and Chinese communities worldwide. Generic terms such as New Year or Lunar New Year is used for other countries such as Korea, Japan, Vietnam, with one exception where Vietnam is included in Southeast Asia. Disambiguation for new year celebrations in those countries are provided in Lunar New Year. 
Proposal 1 - Change Observed by Mainly East Asia countries with various local names. to Observed by China and Overseas Chinese or Observed by China and Southeast Asia. I favor Overseas Chinese because this is mostly true in Southeast Asian countries where sizable overseas Chinese reside, and this can also apply to other Chinese communities around the world.
Proposal 2 - Remove Korea, Japan, Vietnam in table of countries where Chinese New Year is celebrated. Southeast Asian countries designated Chinese New Year a public holiday because of sizable overseas Chinese in that region. But in Korea, Japan, Vietnam where overseas Chinese population is relatively small, their own local traditional new year celebrations are designated as a public holiday.
I think these changes are reasonable and fair, and references are provided. I'll make these changes once protection is removed, but if you feel opposed to these changes, please let me know. VeryGoodBoy (talk) 17:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Those facts are well handled by Lunar New Year, where possible usages of these terms, including Chinese New Year, are disambiguated. Please see my response below yours. VeryGoodBoy (talk) 22:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

text: vietnamese new year DOES fall on the same day, most of the time, except with extremely rare exceptions Breaistwrote (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where Chinese New Year is celebrated and designated a public holiday 

message: I've only heard the term "Chinese New Year" in the west. During my time spent in mainland China and East Asia, I've always heard it
referred to as "Lunar New Year." The Chinese in China themselves refer to the holiday as either Lunar New Year or the Lunar Spring Festival. 
Intranetusa (talk) 21:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not locally.  But I'd imagine every culture typically call its own traditional New Year just "New Year".  My parents (who were born in Southern China) called it "Agrarian" Calendar New Year to distinguish it from the New calendar (Gregorian) New Year. You'll probably find several different names for this since the Chinese culture is very diverse. --Tesscass (talk) 17:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I called my father-in-law (a Chinese national in China).  After I told him "happy new year" in Chinese, he responded with "Happy Chinese New Year" in English.  I thought it was a little funny, but it is widely regarded as "Chinese New Year" when speaking in English.LedRush (talk) 17:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Americans don't call American football American football but internationally it's called American football. "Lunar New Year", "Agrarian Calendar New Year" and "Spring Festival" all suffer technical issues once you're outside Asia or China. HkCaGu (talk) 17:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it even called Chinese New Year?

message: I can't seem to find (in this article or anywhere else) when the official start of the first day takes place. Does it start in the entire world at the same time? Does it start an hour later if you're a timezone earlier? Heck, is "new moon" a global effect or does the perception of the moon vary from country to country? With these questions answered the article would be more complete, at least. --MooNFisH (talk) 10:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See Chinese calendar. The astronomical new moon occurs at the same instant throughout the world when the ecliptic longitude of the Moon and Sun are the same as viewed from the center of the Earth. The Sun appears to move slowly along the ecliptic toward the east, while the Moon appears to move rapidly along the ecliptic toward the east as much as 5° north or south of it. The astronomical new moon occurs when the Moon overtakes the Sun. The time of this astronomical new moon relative to midnight in the Chinese time zone determines the Gregorian date of the traditional Chinese New Year, which is then used throughout the world as its date. — Joe Kress (talk) 18:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, do add a calendar onto this page, for the exact dates for the current year. The German language wikipedia page has a very nice list that you could re-use for this. See: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinesisches_Neujahrsfest#Datum  83.79.141.170 (talk) 20:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that you mention it, there used to be a table in the section "New Year dates".  Someone removed it.  --Tesscass (talk) 21:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  When does it start, exactly? 

message: Chinese new year is merely used in China. In fact,many asian countries have Lunar New year because they use Lunar Calender so this spring festival should be only Lunar New Year, not Chinese one (if the purpose to say internationally) and it isn't fair to say so ( almost means of mass media use this word). The word chinese itself shows that it only in China, but there's no proof that it originated in China. In Vietnam, we call it "Tet holiday", which means we also have our spring festival.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.186.98.167 (talk) 09:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you were looking for Tet, then maybe you should have...  looked for Tet.  Please see Tết.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: It's not Lunar New Year because in a lunar calendar, any month can be the First Month.  All these cultures that use a lunar calendar have different months to begin the year, and that's why it is internationally incorrect to say Lunar New Year. HkCaGu (talk) 18:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Luner New Year is not precise. Different luner calenders are used in different places in the world. Chinese New Year refers to one specific lunersolar calender used in East Asia. Celebration customs may differ from country to country, and from province to province.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.91.150.14 (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Also, note that the term Chinese New Year is also widely used in Malaysia and Singapore.  Therefore, the word "Chinese" does not only refer to China although the tradition may originate from China.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nezs (talk • contribs) 12:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Chinese New Year but Lunar New Year 

message: It would be very useful if someone, if they know how, could construct a simple table of the new year dates for each year. An example for Christian Easter is at Easter#Date of Easter.--212.183.140.53 (talk) 19:46, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a table is already provided under Dates, where each New Year date is related to its animal and branch. But it does not separate the year from the date within the year, which, if done, would result in a very short twelve year list. I'm clarifying that these are New Year dates. — Joe Kress (talk) 20:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible to add simple table of dates for each year? 

message: Hi, under ==External links==, can someone put in this link. Its to an image gallery featuring images of the 2009 new year celebrations in Hong Kong.
The link should go something like this:
*Chinese New Year as celebrated in Hong Kong in 2009.
That should do it.
Thanks and cheers - Rogan Coles--Tingyat (talk) 06:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have three extlinks; can't see why we need this. Pmlineditor ∞ 12:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding new external link. 

message: Just a suggestion - audio with Mandarin and Cantonese pronunciation of key phrases and greetings could be a useful addition to this article. -- Rob.au (talk) 09:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation Audio 

message: Under the table of public holidays, the article states that the first day of CNY is celebrated in Brunei and Indonesia and that if the first day is Sunday, it is carried over to Monday.  This situation has arisen this year (2010), but the public holiday has not been carried over (I am an Indonesian resident).  This is consistent with the approach taken to all public holidays in Indonesia - ie there is no "crediting" if they happen to fall on a week end.  However I am not certain of the position in Brunei.
Sjmawson (talk) 07:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public holiday in Indonesia 

message: I wish to propose adding some cultural practices under "Preceding Days" in Festivities.  
In Malaysia and Singapore, the Chinese community creates a makeshift altar in front of the house and welcome the God of Prosperity[1].  There are certain time and direction where the alter must face[1]. It is belief that if the God of Prosperity chooses to enter one's house[1], the members of the house will benefit good health, good business, etc. It is also belief that during the "welcoming" duration, the doors should be left opened.
Part of a traditional Chinese New Year song depicts the same practice (rough translation into English)[2]:
"The sound of drums"
"A new spring has arrived, everyone is happy"
"Fireworks are going off in all directions"
"Inviting the God of Prosperity to our Doors"
Notes:
[1] http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/14/focus/5669550&sec=focus 
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bjjUm593v4 - a modern day rap mixed with several traditional songs.
Nezs (talk) 13:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Festivities: Preceding Day (CNY eve)  

message: Chinese spring festival is also a public holiday in Mauritius.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.224.11.92 (talk) 07:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Spring Festival as public holiday 

message: Traditionally, Chinese zodiac (shengxiao) is based on 24 Jieqi, start from the day of lichun, not the Chinese new year. This is usually confused by some modern ppl.--刻意(Kèyì) 02:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Chinese Zodiac and New year

message: This article should also explain the different Chinese New Year greetings. I'm not Chinese but whenever I go outside or watch TV, there are different greeting calls for this occasion. I would often see Kung Hei Fat Choi streamed in different media but while watching the news right now, they used, possibly, a different language? But also seem like a Chinese greeting.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.168.178 (talk) 11:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Greetings