Talk:Sir Henry Wilson, 1st Baronet

message: "Note to self and others"
Lurking at the back of my mind is a recollection of Wilson turning up (whether invited or uninvited I couldn't say) looking vaguely sinister to a meeting of Tory politicians on the evening of 1 August. I think it might be in some recollection of Leo Amery. The following day the Tories wrote to Edward Grey urging him to stand firm. Christopher Clark in "The Sleepwalkers" links Wilson to the Tory intrigues but doesn't provide the exact detail.
Slightly tangential, but in his famous speech to the Commons Grey said that it would cost Britain no more to get involved in the war than to stay out - probably because he envisaged (or wanted wavering Liberals to think he was envisaging) a limited commitment, not deploying the BEF to France. Sending Wilson's BEF to France, let alone the vast army which Kitchener called into being, was never as foregone a conclusion as is sometimes assumed.Paulturtle (talk) 01:18, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilson and the July Crisis 

message: ...the "Modern biographies and popular culture" section: During the second season of the tv series Peaky Blinders, the lead character, Tommy Shelby, is pressured by the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), under the direction of Winston Churchill, to kill a British Army officer, "Field Marshal Russell", a former Black and Tans commander who alledgedly committed atrocities in Cork, Ireland. A false flag operation, the plan is to blame the assassination on the IRA, as Churchill, the SIS and a pro-peace faction of the IRA want to undermine the anti-peace faction of the IRA. It would appear that FM Russell is a putative fictionalized version of Sir Henry Wilson. (This is just the info, not the specific wording for any potential addition.) Thoughts...? - wolf 07:28, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible addition to... 

message: No. He was a civilian when he was assassinated. Grassynoel (talk) 14:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Was he? DuncanHill (talk) 14:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Killed in action? 

message: An editor has tagged the page as "too long to read and navigate comfortable". I am removing the tag as I think, in this case, the length is not unreasonable and fragmenting the flow of the article would be unhelpful. I happy to consider proposals from a willing editor as to how they propose to spilt it. Dormskirk (talk) 09:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately at over 27k words of readable prose, the length is entirely unreasonable - see WP:SIZE and WP:SUMMARY. The article would benefit from significant summarization to make it more accessible to the general readership. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As already indicated above, I disagree. Are you prepared to do the work to condense it? If not this seems to be a case of WP:DRIVEBY and the tag should not be readded. Dormskirk (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I am absolutely willing to work on it. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:22, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. In which case that's fine. Please go-ahead. Many thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 15:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too long? 

message: :::::I agree that the article is too long but I suggest that the reference removed today (Bromage, Mary (1964), Churchill and Ireland, University of Notre Dame Press, Notre Dame, IL, pg 36., Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 64-20844) be reinserted as it covered the information preceding todays edit: "...acquired a reputation as a political intriguer for his role in agitating for the introduction of conscription in Ireland." With the two Jeffery books representing well over 200 edits, an additional source should be welcomed. Thanks Palisades1 (talk) 16:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: In the index of the Bromage book I think there are 10 pages that refer to Wilson. Palisades1 (talk) 13:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish Conscription