Talk:Silver Rule

message: I'm not sure, but it looks to me that, in the handshake example, the Silver Rule (Treat others in the way that they wish to be treated) can be reduced to the Golden rule (Treat others in the way you wish to be treated). If you want that people shake your hand the way you like, then even if you don't like a firm handshake you would be treating someone like you want to be treated if you use a firm handshake when handshaking someone that likes it.
A.Z. 01:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  reduction 

message: The previous entry was a fabrication with no historical references. This entry is reference to the President of Gonzaga University and can be validated in historical literature and many websites. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daveheathr (talk • contribs) 06:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver Rule major revision 

message: There is also a book "Golden Rules And Silver Rules Of Humanity: Universal Wisdom Of Civilization" by Q. C. Terry. You can find it on amazon.com. The both (golden and silver) rules are written on its cover: amazon.com/image.
I do not like the "do no harm" definition of the silver rule. It is shorter, but the "harm" is not defined and ambiguous. I would put the reciprocal interpretation "do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you" first. Spitzer has it in "Examining Trends in Ethics". This would relate the silver rule more to thegolden rule and separate it from non-agression and harm principle. Kopovoi 10:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  passive reciprocity vs no harm 

message: It appears as the first commenter suggested that saying " do unto others and you want done unto you" means the same exact thing as "dont do unto others as you dont want to be done unto you". I cant see how someone would ever see it different. And I dont believe citing a book at amazon.com serves a valid source.
Darwinzape 05:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe that either of your assertations is correct, sorry. David spector (talk) 02:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

text: It's a matter of acting in positivity vs restraint from acting in negativity. The two are not the same. XwasssabiX (talk) 02:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  this distinction is a load of cr.. 

message: Didn't Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan have something like the Silver Rule? Septagram 01:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver Rule and Thomas Hobbes? 

message: No mention of Confucius' line "Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.36.248 (talk) 18:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confucius? 

message: I removed a paragraph that was very meandering and rhetorical. It did not add much, if anything, to the entry. It adds little to our understanding of the Silver Rule, and I don't think it is just the wording--It has little content.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.174.193 (talk) 05:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  05:19, 18 June 2011 

message: "...however the latter preserves the parallelism with the Golden Rule."
Removed this from the last sentence. It is a moot point. "Do no harm" is equally consistent with the Golden Rule, unless you 'would have harm done unto yourself'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoItAgain (talk • contribs) 05:36, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parallelism 

message: In the talmud, masechet Shabbat, 31, A, Hillel said to a non-Jew who was considering conversion:
דעלך סני לחברך לא תעביד
what is hateful to you, do not do (to others)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.215.130 (talk) 01:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hillel's statement 

message: Hello, my proposal is that someone should modify the paragraphs of the Wikipedia article called "Golden Rule" which starts as follows:
"The Old Testament Deuterocanonical books of Tobit and Sirach, accepted as part of the Scriptural canon by Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Non-Chalcedonian Churches, express a negative form of the golden rule: ..."
and add a Subchapter titled "Silver Rule" to the above-mentioned Wikipedia article, because of...
... two or three religious points of view:
[please, excuse me for any spelling and Grammar errors, as Spanish is my mother tongue]
1.
From India (Mahabharata, 5, 1517):
'This is the sum of duty. Do not unto others that which would cause you pain if done to you'
at:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/749707-this-is-the-sum-of-duty-do-not-unto-others
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2.
 "10. As you wish no evil to befall you, but to partake of all that is good, so should you act on the same principle towards your subjects." Aristaeus.* 
Under number 10, at:
http://www.homeplanet.org/fourint.html
*A minor god in Greek mythology, something which I did not know, but by searching in the Wikipedia, I have found that. So, it seems that in ancient times, the gods spake to the mortal ones (ha), or maybe it was Aristaeus the Elder, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristaeus_the_Elder
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3.
In the Book of Tobit, included only in Catholic Bibles, Tobit 4, 15 reads as follows:
15 Never do to anyone else anything that you would not want someone to do to you.
Do not drink so much wine that you get drunk, and do not let drinking become a habit.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Tobit+4%3A15%2CMatthew+7%3A12%2CLuke+6%3A31&version=GNT
[...]
And at:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_thobis_lt.html
Some similar phrases in Latin language:
the second paragraph of Tobit 4, 14 and the first paragraph of Tobit 4, 15:
"Attende tibi, fili, in omnibus operibus tuis et esto sapiens in omnibus sermonibus tuis et, quod oderis, nemine feceris."
Which, by using Google Translator "anyone can" translate from Latin into English:
"Watch yourself, my son, in everything you do, and discipline yourself in all your conduct, and that which you hate, do not do to anyone."
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LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
Because of:
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/9-gold-silver-and-iron-three-rules-of-human-conduct
Besides, me thinks that someone should create an article called "Iron Rule" for the Wikipedia in English.
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Theophilus Brown Larimore
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=Theophilus+Brown+Larimore&rlz=1C1ASUM_enMX763MX763&oq=Theophilus+Brown+Larimore&aqs=chrome..69i57.8686j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Of course, about the Golden Rule:
I own a book... its title is: Good News for Modern Man;* and, according to its cover, it is: "The New Testament + In Today's English Version".
On page 16, Matthew 7, 12 one can read the following:
12 "Do for others what you want them to do for you: this is the  meaning of the Law of Moses and the teaching of the prophets."
*Third Edition, American Bible Society, New York, 1971.
"Imprimatur + John Francis Whealon, S.T.L., S.S.L. Archbishop of Hartford, April 15, 1971."
Heterotrofo (talk) 22:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Wikipedia lacks a Silver Rule and an Iron Rule