Talk:Afghan (ethnonym)

message: I am not versed in the history or languages, but it seems to me credible that if Gandhara and Kandahar/Arghandab can be synonymous, then Afghan must be derived from the same root. It might be interesting to search for the common origin in Gandhara/Kandahar/Arghandab and see if this can also be matched to Afghan... Gandhara seems to have been a large and influential nation/empire encompassing (much of?) the region which we now know as Afghanistan, as well as much of Pakistan ... any info on this possibility? ... I notice the discussion page of Afghanistan mentions this as accepted historical fact, and says that the Gandhara name predates Alexander ... a competing theory of name origin ... perhaps in fact Alexander's name comes from the Afghan's or was influential in his success with them (they called him 'Iskandar') ... -- 60.240.129.13 (talk) 12:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  gandhara 

message: plz people do not get jackass by some people who try to spread lies here. They have to understand that Wikipedia is not a game forum it is a knowledge portal for the humanized and civilizied folks of the world!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tajik-Professor (talk • contribs) 16:39, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not get jackass 

message: Hi User Mullaji
Please do not delete Verifiable content from reliable sources with citations as you have done in your post of 3rd june .
Intothefire (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop adding lengthy quotes. While citing medieval historians, modern historians are to be treated as secondary sources not primary sources. Also reply to the section below. MassaGetae(talk) 09:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that user Massagetae and banned user Mullaji are also working in conjunction to delete my referenced content from article  Pashtun people.???????? 
Intothefire (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

text: When did I do that? Please don't make up things. MassaGetae(talk) 22:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afghan_(name)&diff=next&oldid=293090996 Deletion of verifiable content by user Mullaji]

message: In one day there are three deletions by Mullaji and User Massagate of the same referenced content . Here is the record .This is inspite of content restoration by admin SkyWalker. 
* Deletion instance 1 by Mullaji of verifiable content on 7th June  with citations
(rvv, not verifiable; i've read biruni's work and he mentions rajputs (punjabis). punjabis were all hindus until mahmud of ghazni forced them to convert during times of al-biruni)
* Deletion instance 2 by Mullaji of verifiable content on 7th June  with citations
(if they are wrong, misleading and not belonging here sure i can)
* restored by SkyWalker  
(Reverted 1 edit by Mullaji; No you are wrong.. (TW))
Next edit →
* Next the same verifiable  content is now deleted by User Massagate 
(merge section. make quotes shorter)
This is patently Unreasonable .
Intothefire (talk) 08:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop adding lengthy quotes. While citing medieval historians, modern historians are to be treated as secondary sources not primary sources. Also reply to the section below. MassaGetae(talk) 09:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that user Massagetae and banned user Mullaji are also working in conjunction to delete my referenced content from article  Pashtun people.???????? 
Intothefire (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

text: When did I do that? Please don't make up things. MassaGetae(talk) 22:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Three straight deletions of verifiable referenced content in one day

message: :::::*The  use of Alberuni , Ibnbatuta , Farishta , Barani and other muslim historians must not be selective in this article , as it currently is .Lets use one yardstick.And not nitpick rulebook as pretixt with regard to  delete  oposing views .
:::::*The contradictions in this article and others related to Afghanistan and Pashtun  ethnic and religious diversity in the Historical period  are  appaling .
:::::*Deleting or diluting inherent Buddhist and Hindu periods is so rampant that it has assumed an unmerited sanction to the extent that even evidence can be blasted out as fringe , Pov and OR ,regretfully it appears that even admins perhaps unintentionally contribute this majoratarian flow ..........whereby  extention of exclusion makes this article bordering on falsehood .
Intothefire (talk) 06:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The author - in this case al-Biruni - is referring to the Suleiman Mountains. In that case, it is highly probable that he was referring to Pashtuns, because he had described them as a "Hindu people" before. The Pashtuns were gradually Islamized in the following centuries, due to Ghaznavid and Ghori advances into India. Tajik (talk) 01:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I reverted unexplained deletions by . Tajik (talk) 01:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may wanna check again, I didn't delete anything.--Hkrclu (talk) 05:39, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Intothefire (talk) 14:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Improve the article allowing inclusion of  diversity content

message: Intothefire (talk) 19:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: List of  Referenced content from reliable sources deleted from this article

message: Looking at how Pashtun word sounds, I'm getting an impression that it might be derived from a Slavic word [pastuh] or [pustyn]. The former one means a shepherd while the latter means a desert. I'm not a linguist, just shared a personal observation - please don't judge.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.98.155 (talk) 03:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I have removed the reference to Ferishta, as it is factually incorrect, since it states that only people in Afghanistan used Afghan to refer to Pashtuns. Nowhere in the citation is that quoted.
Second, the reference to how the Hazara or Chinese-Afghans view Afghans, does not have any bearing on the historical context of the name and is not derived from any scholarly source, but rather a politicized, ad hominem, in response to socially charged issue in Afghanistan.
Finally, this is actually very sad to see that as an Afghan, we are having our history hijacked on these pages, because we do not have anyone who can come in here correct the blantant lies and misinformation being spread by Tajikistanis and Chinese-Afghans. A message to all true Afghans, please protect your heritage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afghan25 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: The reference to Afghana was removed from the origin of the term Afghan, as the first, the citation does not state that the name Afghan derives from Afghana, but rather discusses the origin of the Afghan people themselves,  and second the citation itself states that even that in and of itself is most likely incorrect.
Also, there is already scholarly consensus later on in the article on the derivation and history of the name. Putting it much more before the invention of Afghana.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afghan25 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed reference to Afghana in origin of the name 

message: Removed the reference to the afghanlord website article, as it should be afghanWarLord.com.  Article is not scholarly or fact based, written by Chinese-Afghan upset because they want to keep their moniker of Hazara rather then be called Afghan. It is an opinionated factless piece which can not be considered a "source" for scholarly debate. It has nothing to do with the origin or history of the word Afghan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afghan25 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed reference to Afghan lord article 

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message: I have a question I saw on the internet that alexander the great has mentioned in several quotes the afghans is it true? AfghansPashtun (talk) 11:40, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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