Talk:Maria Cantwell/Archive 1

message: 68.74.8.121 has repeatedly altered the introductory paragraph of the article to describe Cantwell as a DINO.  I feel that this statement is a clear violation of WP:NPOV, and would like to request the comments of others on the issue.
:I quite agree, and have reverted it myself.  Personally, I'm not too happy with her recent vote, but that doesn't translate into a slander label being applied in her article.  Now if she begins to be referred to this way by the media, mention of this would deserve notice.  Right now, it's just one person's opinion, and has no place here.  Ocicat 00:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So, your current edit says "Critics of her Senate voting record have accused her of being a Democrat In Name Only."  Outside of Wikipedia, exactly which critics are these?  This falls (I think) under NPOV and/or Original Research.  Ocicat 00:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Then which member of that group called her a "DINO"?  I know the're unhappy, but that alone does not justify the term.  Mentioning that the vote caused conflict with members of her party would be fine and true. Ocicat 02:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Democrat in Name Only"

message: I think she's not DINO, because:
* She's 100% pro choice
* She voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes
* She's opposes the death penalty
* She's rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-family voting record
* She's opposes absolute right to gun ownership
* She voted NO on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act
* She voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice and NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, two Bush nominnes
* She's opposes privatizing Social Security
She's one of the more liberal senators. I like her ;)  
:Hey unsigned comment. When she voted with the Republicans to end the filibuster of Alito she helped end Choice in America. --8bitJake 15:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And don't forget that she voted for partial birth abortion and against making it a crime to injure a fetus; she is a Democratic Poster Child; what more do you want her to do? Blow up an infant ward?  Michaellovesnyc 03:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  She's not DINO 

message: Please clarify the PAC pledge and current fundraising.  The source which is used to say that Cantwell is not accepting PAC money says PACs have reported giving her $34,925 for 2005-2006.  That certainly doesn't look like nothing and the source itself is ambiguous. --Ajdz 05:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PACs 

message: Advance notice:  I plan to move a lot of the material on the 2006 election to the separate article on that race; the link to that separate article makes it easy to find such information. John Broughton 19:10, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me.  Chadlupkes 20:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, I'm done.  It's not perfect, but it's good enough. John Broughton 16:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Washington United States Senate election, 2006]] 

message: I notice User:Michaellovesnyc has been trying to insert his point of view into the Maria Cantwell article. We've been trying to negotiate with him about Mail-order bride for months now. Some of the editors there have begun preparing a request for comment about his behaviour that will be submitted soon. The draft is here. Please feel free to edit it - add diffs that show disputed edits on this article and your attempts to negotiate with him. --Grace 22:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on Michaellovesnyc 

message: If you've been following the financial crises in Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland, you know that big debts and deficits matter.  Citizens experience no pain, whatsoever, as the debts accumulate, so it's easy to ignore the approaching storm;  but when the hurricane arrives they find that it's the only issue that really matters.  At the moment the interest on our federal debt is very small because interest rates are abnormally low, but abnormal conditions don't last.  When interest rates rise, our interest tab will rise quickly and cause the deficit to widen alarmingly.  Our debt and interest costs will spiral upward. 
Thus, it's a bit disturbing that---while we know every little detail about Cantwell's elections, and there's a lengthy item about a meaningless statement she made regarding Amanda Knox---we are offered no insight into the Senator's positions on matters related to fiscal responsibility.  Does she care about today's deficits, and the Congressional Budget Office's projections of future crisis?  And if she does care, what steps would she take to close the gap?  What votes has she taken that reveal her commitment to any statements she has made about discretionary spending, entitlement spending, and taxes?    
Jlcfa (talk) 16:20, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't Overlook the Key Issues 

message: I think its problematic to begin assertions with phrases such as "Cantwell did support the view of many left-wing groups when..." (this in reference to her oppostion to the Roberts nomination) unless one can establish a causal link to the referenced group/position/event.  That is, was Cantwell's vote the result of an effort to support/appease "left wing groups"?  If so, document this.  Otherwise we end up with an implication of causality when coincidence would be just as logical an inference.  It's a common rhetorical device--"Bush echoes the actions of many neo-Nazis in eating breakfast cereal"--but hardly illustrative or fair.  Is anyone else finding this more and more common in pages relating to active politicians (particularly those with a race this fall, 2006)?  --Patchyreynolds 15:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phrasing problem 

message: Coming over per request on WP:3. Is the photo helpful? Well, no, not really, but it doesn't harm anything either; in the grand scheme of things it's sort of irrelevant. That said, the photo is of poor quality - too few pixels and underexposed - so I'm not sure this particular photo is Wikipedia-worthy. There's also the issue of the man in the photo, who is unidentified; there may be policy against that (though I'm not certain). Also, given how close we are to the election, it's probably worth pointing out that the Mike McGavick article has only the one photo at the top, so in the interest of fairness (or, at least, some semblance of calm during a time where everyone is extra-touchy about everything related to these articles), my tendency is to try to keep thigs more or less "even". So when you add it all up, I would say it's best that this particular photo not be a part of the article, and if anyone is insistent about adding any other second photo to the article prior to November 7, it would be best that another one be added to Mike McGavick as well, if only to keep everyone on both sides halfway content. (There is, of course, no policy or guideline requiring parity in such cases, or that only a single photo be on a candidate's page. But adding another one at this time does tend to give off the appearance of impropriety, so it's probably in the best interest of Wikipedia that the issue not be pushed before Election Day.) --Aaron 20:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's acceptable to me. I agree that the photo is low quality: it's basically a snapshot, there was no chance to set up a shot in such circumstances. I certainly did not intend it as electioneering, and I have no particular reason to get it up before the election; I happened to crop and upload it almost immediately after taking it because a blogger friend needed it done ASAP. - Jmabel | Talk 03:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

text: So, now that the election is over, is there any objection to re-adding the photo? - Jmabel | Talk 06:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes; I still think the photo doesn't add anything to the article.  Although the third opinion related from Aaron related some of the problems to the fact that the election was nigh, also note the other things he said: the photo is poor quality, doesn't help the article (even if it doesn't harm it), has the question of the other person in the photo, and he was "not sure [the photo] is WIkipedia-worthy."  Emcee 15:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: At least one of his issues - that there "may be policy against" an unidentified person in a photo - is simply wrong. There is no such policy. - Jmabel | Talk 16:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third opinion on [[:Image:Cantwell_28A.jpg]] 

message: I am willing to believe Emcee acted in good faith when he altered the text about Cantwell's environmental supporters. The reference supplied for the quote did specify the League of Conservation Voters. However, anybody familiar with this race knows that several other environmental groups have officially endorsed Cantwell, making the initial text more accurate that Emcee's revision. The Wildlife Action Fund, the Sierra Club, etc., have endorsed Cantwell. Instead of doing research to improve the entry, Emcee simply deleted text that was in fact more accurate. Benzocane 04:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right--thanks for moving them to ref section. Sorry for the oversight. Benzocane 00:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Emcee's environmental edit

message: Why is her early life and career section way down at the bottom after all the specific isues?  This is very odd and very different from any other page I've seen.  Does anyone know hwo to rearrange the material to put her early life info as the first subsection, as is the standard?Dolewhite (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Bobblehead (rants) 17:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atypical structuring 

message: What means PAC in "Cantwell spent over $10 million of her own money on her campaign, pledging not to accept money from PACs"?. Regards.--Nopetro (talk) 14:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Political action committees. Gobonobo T C 04:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  PAC 

message: As a life long Olympian, and a frequent reader of The Olympian, I can safely say it doesn't count as a real newspaper. It once had an almost-full front page story devoted to how the town fountain wasn't on during the hottest day of the summer so far.
Yeah... great journalism.
[/Hate]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.184.209 (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Olympian doesn't count 

message: Why can't I make the photograph of Cantwell, Boxer and Lautenberg visible? The code appears to be exactly the same as that permitting the photo (farther down) of Cantwell at the 2008 DNC to be visible. Rontrigger (talk) 23:09, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second photograph 

message: Hey folks, on the Electoral History section, everything makes sense - except the column labeled "±%".  There's no key or other label to explain what the values there mean, and they aren't obvious when looking at the math.  I suggest removing it, unless someone can explain what it's there for (and then adds an explanatory note or something to make it clear in the article.) Karichisholm (talk) 07:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It indicates the % change between the election referenced and the last one. Note that the first two are Washington state and the next two are for the Senate, so it wouldn't carry over from the second to third. Joseph Steven (talk) 20:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral History 

message: The subsection on committee assignments is still showing committee assignments as of the 112th Congress, which is no longer in session as of January. 
--184.6.222.14 (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subsection: committee assignments needs to be updated to the 113th Congress 

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message: Is it worth mentioning her brother was charged (and acquitted) of murder in the 1980s? http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20060728&slug=cantwellyouth28m SecretName101 (talk) 01:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brother 

message: The current article says this about Senator Cantwell:
: She then briefly worked in the private sector as Vice President of Marketing for RealNetworks.
Alright, I'll admit, I have a massive conflict of interest in editing this article.  I worked with Maria erm, Senator Cantwell from 1996-1999 (or maybe 2000?  I lost track; RNWK was a pretty big company by the the time she left), and she was part of the reason I joined the company.  Cantwell managed a pretty large group at Progressive Networks RealNetworks, and played a pretty big role in the success of the company.  In fact, the article has a "Private sector employment (1995–1999)" which suggests she left RealNetworks in 1999, and I know she started way before I did (I joined in '96).  Regardless, I know from personal experience that she was pretty integral to the operation of the company until she left to go run against Slade Gorton.  Could someone change the "briefly" bit?  4 years is not "brief", and minimizes the fact that the company was tiny when she joined (it was truly just a startup) and was a large, publicly-traded company when she left. -- RobLa (talk) 21:52, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cantwell at RealNetworks 

message: It seems to me that Russia could easily switch military targets from Ukraine to Belarus.  Any thoughts?  Steve Treacy, Port Townsend, WA. 72.202.87.28 (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belarus?