Talk:Nikolai Medtner

message: Why is there a D in his surname in English?  In the Russian (and he was Russian) it's just METHEP (Metner).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.56.26.1 (talk) 21:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess there are two answers. One is that the name is German, not Russian. The other is that it is how Medtner spelled his name in the roman alphabet. JBritnell (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of his name 

message: Hrm. On the one hand, fairy-tale is the usual translation at least with Medtner and especially with op 25/2.  I do note that Rimsky's Skazka is at least sometimes translated as Legend; I believe Tozer suggests translating the Medtner (and the other works he gave this title, both the Russian Round-Dance and the (two dozen or so? Need to check that worklist) various solo-piano Skazki) as either Folk-Tales, Legends or Ballades (the latter is the Dover edition's choice, I see).  (It's true he already calls concerto 3 and the sonata op 27 ballades anyway...)
-- (continuation) In part because (they say, I tend to agree?--) fairy-tale seems to imply certain associations and temperament and these works generally differ from those expectations. Thoughts? Schissel : bowl listen 03:35, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
:Is the solution to this to get in touch with a Russian Wikipedian who speaks English (or an English Wikipedian who speaks Russian), and ask?  Or at least someone who can understand the Russian entry on Medtner?  I found the Russian entry and added a ref. to it; does that help? --RobertG 11:20, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I notice that's not Medtner - that's Nikolai Petrovich Wagner - :-( will revert...  Above comment about Russian speaker still stands, though! I'm new to this, and assumed there would be a Russian page on Medtner! --RobertG 11:24, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skazka 

message: I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles.  This article is a weak B; it has a decent factual basis, but can use more.  It also suffers from some structural defects.  Read my detailed review on the comments page; questions or comments can be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 21:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Inconsistencies, too (e.g. Sonata romantica "premiered in 1931" but written "1931-2" - maybe premiered in an early version but revised, but that would need to be made clear... Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Actually, I wouldn't mind some clarity here. Especially since the sonata romantica, iirc, was the one sonata of his premiered in the USA (the composer in attendance), according to Martyn (Nicolas Medtner: His Life and Music)? ELSchissel (talk) 02:39, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Composer project review

message: Whether Medtner’s music makes inroads into the wider repertoire or remains the territory of a few performers and listeners depends on whether it is true that he sacrificed melodic interest, beauty, and communicativeness (or enough of them) on the altar of complexity, the sonata form, and counterpoint [who is making this claim?]. Nonetheless, it is undeniable that Medtner possessed considerable skill in writing heartfelt melody of rare beauty and an uncanny skill in developing thematic material [this is in opposition to the previous sentence]. Imbued with a restless quality that demands repeated listenings to penetrate [source?], Medtner's music often has a psychologically intense, almost demonic character. The piano works in particular are notoriously difficult to sight-read and require enormous technical and intellectual resources to perform [needs source]. Yet Medtner's best melodies [such as?] speak to the listener on a direct emotional level [source?]. It may be [weasel words] that some of his works are better advocates for him in this respect—his songs and concertos are more directly communicative than the solo piano music, the violin sonatas more extroverted [source?]—but it is also true that his music is now that of a cult composer, at least in reputation and possibly in fact. [Source?]
The above needs to be revised. --Toccata quarta (talk) 11:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been bold and removed the whole paragraph.—Toccata quarta (talk) 15:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV and other matters 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: We don't have an article, but full name apparently Tatiana Alexandrovna Makushina (Татьяна Александровна Макушина) (b.1895 and/or d.1961?). Sources on the net seem to conflict; Russian-domain sources getting increasingly hacked besides, so goes. Schissel | Sound the Note! 04:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Makushina 

message: There have been several issues of the composer's recordings of his own music over the years. Melodiya in 2014 started a series (with volume 1 on MELCD1002200) for example. (On that disc can be found the mentioned recording of the Tragica, Op.39 No.5 - 10 minutes, briefer than most other recordings?... - and a number of other works: e.g. the two tales Op.20 complete and other sets excerpted.) Volume 2 of this series contains the 3 piano concertos and the sonate-ballade (see .)  At least per Worldcat the Melodiya CD series seems to have not proceeded further as of February 2017. An earlier series on Appian Publications & Recordings (APR, Hexham, Northumberland) of the composer's complete solo recordings - his own music and that of others - reached three volumes, starting with a disc of Beethoven Op.57 (and assorted works of Medtner's own : ), a second disc featuring Medtner's first violin sonata amidst other HMV recordings from 1936 and 1946 (), and a 3rd disc of "unpublished" 1947 recordings (not quite true perhaps, since it seems that according to Medtner.org.uk, some of these performances on disc 3 - eg. the selfsame Op.39 No.5 sonata mentioned earlier- were for example already on (rare) LPs from Melodiya (M10-41169).) ...) Medtner.org.uk seems to have a good (maybe not ultra-up-to-date? but good) discography... Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:12, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further re composer recordings 

message: The section about this is unclear. Especially the sentence "Medtner and Anna were married in 1918." Which Medtner? After what has just been said, it should specify whether it means he or his brother, and further explanation would be helpful.--Ericjs (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage / Anna