Talk:AutoIt

message: how about code examples??
Code examples in the sense of teaching how to code in AutoIt would not be relevant however one example of a simple program may be 86.147.190.162 20:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  code examples 

message: I'm not a programmer, but I'd have to say that usage of this program to bot in various games is probably one of the most challenging and elegant uses of the technology possible.  Take Diablo 2 for example..Bots can avoid enemies, pick and choose which items to pick up, which to sell and which to keep in the stash, kill bosses or seek out specific types of opponents..etc, the list goes on and on.  I understand that using AutoIt in this manner is contrary to the spirit of the game, but the ingenuity needed to even approach solving some problems in games in an automatic fashion beats the crap out of telling the computer to input a certain text sequence in a specific text box after a specific set of conditions is met.
Is this so looked down upon by the community? The author citing sources would be helpful.
-PhPh
:I’m a long-time user of AutoIt (both v2 and v3) and I can tell you that historically there have been some major problems with bot uses of AutoIt in the community, particularly on the forums.  I have not been active on the forums for a couple of years, but there used to be huge threads by people wanting to edit some AutoIt code they found for botting purposes.  Since many of these people were not inclined to learn the language (they just wanted someone to fix it for them without having to put in any work themselves) they put an undue burden on the forums and eventually these posts came to be a source of contention.
:I agree with the above comment that the use of automated scripts to perform often-complex tasks that a game demands can be a creative use of the technology.  However, from a community perspective (specifically the AutoIt forums), most users of these bots were not the programmers of them nor willing to learn what was necessary to make changes to the code.  Very few people programmed the vast majority of the bots the AutoIt forums saw support requests for, and almost no posters were willing to put the effort in to accomplish the tasks they sought help with.
:I hope this answers some of your questions.
:--Pekster 01:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  But the claim is that this use is frowned upon.  You only listed reasons why we should dislike the botters not why botting is frowned upon.  Also it is worthy of note the annoying often obnixious botters always seem to find help, which implies that some do support their efforts.  72.21.232.44 04:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'frowned upon' comment 

message: The section on 'Limitations' added by 192.234.223.100 whilst probably true does not seem to sit easily in the encyclopaedia. As with all programming tools there are limitations and restrictions on what it can be used for. Where a feature is 'required' by a user it should be addressed to the authors. Listing every thing a programming tool cannot do is obviously a non-starter. I am unclear as to the useful significance of the 'limitations' mentioned.
I propose removing the section unless there is some justification for keeping it.
--Brian R Hunter (talk) 18:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As is, I agree with removal due to questions of OR and POV, but this is not a condemnation of the content. This would be a valid section if it was re-spun as criticism published by a review or other usable source. If another editor cares to find reliable sources that support these statements, they can stay, but no one is obligated to wait. Ham Pastrami (talk) 15:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Decided to keep the Limitations section and moved limitations documented in the Features section to an (hopefully) better structured Limitations section. --Brian R Hunter (talk) 01:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mention of this particular limitation (and therefore development risk) is highly encyclopeadic and manifestly useful: I myself commenced developing a pop email notifier only to find this a major stumbling block to the otherwise usefulnees of developing this kind of application in an otherwise great rapid potottyping/programming/scpripting language. No refs as yet but I know they can be found with a google...Mattjs (talk) 06:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limitations 

message: "Vibrant" community? Uncited, that's a bit of a puffery. Perhaps some more neutral terms might be good? ++Lar: t/c 02:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peacocky terms 

message: I fail to see how the following paragraph:
Another use of AutoIt is for "botting" in online games. Botting allows the user to run a script which automates some repetitive action in the game - usually so the script user can advance in the game more quickly. Use of AutoIt in this way is frowned upon by some in the AutoIt community as it can generate bad publicity; however, a few botting scripts can still be found in the official AutoIt forums. Because botting is considered to be cheating by most AutoIt users you should not expect much help in the use of AutoIt for this purpose. Many forum members will refuse to help those that are trying to create bots. This is not to say that support will not be provided; however, you may have to wait long periods of time for answers regarding bots.
...is directly relevant to this topic. At most I would think "botting" would be mentioned once as a possible use, and get rid of this garbage. We definitely don't need to describe what botting is here--link to a separate article. Logan1337 (talk) 02:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraph on "botting" too off-topic 

message: I think the sentence "It has also been used to create malware." does not makes much sense to me, that's similar to saying "cars made by ford were used in terrorits attacks" or "factories with proper conditions can be used to create nuclear weapons". I think it is better to remove it, anyone against? SF007 (talk) 00:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "used to create malware"? 

message: My apologies, I did the edits and did not realize that I was not logged in.
Ultimately the people with an interest this article need to be looking towards a rewrite.  For example, there were three separate instances in which it was mentioned that AutoIt is a "scripting language with BASIC-like structure".  I condensed one of them out of features and put it into the introductory section of the article but the other one in the list still remains.  Frankly, the feature list and the usage section will probably need to be combined and the aspects briefly mentioned in the list can be expanded upon, which will give a much better overview of what can be done with AutoIt as the current Usage section downplays the language's capabilities dramatically.
I also think that some code examples and more information about the AutoIt community would also be very helpful in fleshing out this article.
I think three months is enough time for the claims made in the History section to be substantiated, they have been removed and replaced with a neutral sentence stating actual facts regarding source code; being something close to an encyclopedia such claims really have no place in the article anyway.
I also changed the language of the article regarding botting and malware.  It's not unreasonable to mention that AutoIt has been used for these purposes but it is unreasonable to mention it in such a way as to portend that those usages are a primary or even intended purpose of the program.
EDIT: Also removed the link to the AutoIt forums regarding the GPL licensing issues in accordance with the revision to the history section.
SouthStExit (talk) 12:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various Edits and changes to History 

message: Showing how to use AutoIt to get Notepad to calculate an average would be good. This example shows that AutoIt can do it on its own, which is nice but not something anyone will use it for. Joepnl (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stupid example 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The example script driving the Calculator app doesn't seem to work on Windows 10. I think the issue is the wait for a window of the "CalcFrame" class, which never shows up. The app seems to have been rewritten, thus sporting a new class name. It would be nice to have this script updated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobbes78 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken example 

message: a Leap year is NOT JUST any year thats dividable by 4.
if the year is dividable by 100 its NOT a leap year:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_year
85.149.83.125 (talk) 19:20, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  example not acurate 

message: To me, this is another variation of AutoHotKey. Why would anyone bother? — Ineuw talk 12:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely correct. I made the comment at the end of a very frustrating search to get control of my software problems.— Ineuw talk 21:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Autolt? 

message: When it came out there only existed high-level languages with expensive IDEs. Today you can choose from many languages and IDEs that don't cost a lot of money or are even free. The possibilities of AutoIt are very limited and it can't do any magic that nobody else can't. Even in 1999 I could just send keys or mouse events via Win32 API. If you would use uncompiled scripts in real use at the end user you would have the advantage that you could change something quickly but mostly I see compiled scripts with no advantages over other languages... 91.17.152.103 (talk) 07:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does AutoIt make any sense nowadays? 

message: This forum is not accessible if you aren't a member there. 91.58.118.24 (talk) 12:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:   "Reply by Jon (AutoIt creator) to a forum topic discussing correct pronunciation".