Category talk:Victims of the September 11 attacks

message: Text from this article is copied straight from http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/victims-capsules.htm
Sentences like "Richard would have been one of the ones to intervene," said Dave Paullin, his supervisor at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Guadagno, who spent 17 years with the agency, was a wiry 5-foot-8 dynamo - "in a word, intense," Paullin said - who wanted to be outdoors. aren't really suitable for an encyclopedia. Not to mention that the text is copyrighted to USATODAY.com. Maybe someone could take a look at it - I'm not sure I'm the right person to start tearing through articles of september 11 victims. -GilbertoSilvaFan 23:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Richard Guadagno]] 

message: I have been working on the subject of the 2008 Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing. In connection with that terrorist attack one death stands out, namely that of the Czech Ambassador, Ivo Žďárek, who escaped the attack, was safe on the outside, and then went back into the hotel where he subsequently was unable to get out and then died in the blaze that had been started by the bomb blast. Since he voluntarily returned to the burning building, I removed categories from his article classifying him as a terrorism victim. However, I was reverted, and the editor who reverted me did in fact cite the American firefighters who perished in the World Trade Center on 9/11. For consistency I let the issue go at the time, however, I have pondered upon it since and I cannot help envisioning some strange consequences in related situations if we simply leave the issue at the current level of reasoning as a precedent for other incidents, terrorism or otherwise.
When it comes to the American firefighters on 9/11, it is my assumption that most people who consider these terrorist victims either haven't thought through the principles behind this classification, or they believe the buildings to have been intentionally demolished, thus making their collapse a terrorist act in and of itself.
What it all boils down to is whether people who arrive in the aftermath of a terrorist attack and voluntarily expose themselves to the dangers of such an environment, and who succumb as a consequence of these hazards, can rightly be rubricized as terrorism victims? __meco (talk) 08:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whether or not the firefighters were terrorism victims 

message: How could it be argued? If a life is lost due to the actions of a terroirst attack, they are a victom of it. Wheather they voluntarily put onself in the front line danger or not. Also the firefighters who lost their lives on 9/11 werent completly voluntary. It was their job. They are licensed proffessionals trainned for various emergencies including a uilding on fire not matter the cause. I find it disrespectful to render those catergories.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.137.230.33 (talk) 00:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone that loses their life due to a terrorist attack is in fact a victom of that terrorist attack 

message: Category:People killed in Ministry of Intelligence (Iran) operations has been removed from this category.
The ruling by judge George B. Daniels does not constitute proof of any link. The nation of Iran did not participate in the trial, and so the judge made a decision based on Iran's failure to provide exculpatory evidence. Without proof of innocence, the judge pronounced them guilty.
The official 9/11 commission did not find any evidence that Iran was involved.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/u-s-judge-orders-iran-pay-10-billion-fine-didnt-prove-wasnt-behind-911-attacks/214672/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-ordered-pay-billions-relatives-911-victims/story?id=54862664
One Salient Oversight (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Iran link