Talk:Annales Cambriae

message: Medraut is Mordred, not Merlin. Merlin is Myrddin in modern Welsh, so probably Myrdin in mediaeval Welsh. QuartierLatin1968 20:14, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The latest study suggests that the date of the final copying of the A annales might be as late as 1200.  As such there is every chance that the first two entries were interpolations taken from the works of Geoffrey of Monmouth.  The battle of Arfderydd is atested in other sources and was definitely an historical event.--Paul Remfry (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Arthurian entries 

message: I've removed a link that just seemed to be an advert, on the basis that this kind of shouldn't be here: the link pointed straight to a page for purchasing (via Paypal) a text of the Annales Cambriae and the page contains no real content aside from this and an index for said text.  I'm basing this deletion on Wikipedia:ADVERT#External_link_spamming and Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided.  Cheers, Hrothgar cyning (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advert removed 

message: I think you'll find at the time of writing (June 2010) the 'latest study' is mine (small burst of pride here) in the Welsh History Review (Grigg 'Mole Rain'). I reckon the Arthurian entries have been expanded by later scribes, but not fabricated and slotted into previously blank years at a later date. I also don't think there is a definitive date for the Welsh Annals, they probably derive from earlier material and were composed in the form we have today around 954 but even the surviving texts have been subject to changes or omissions during the 10th to 13th centuries. They are an interesting source and it is a shame people only look at the Arthurian entries. This focus on the controversial figure of Arthur means that 'serious' historians are often unnecessarily sceptical about the annals while over-enthusiastic amateurs come out with rather dubious theories about them. There are many other entries and that are also interesting and problematic. The best I think is the mole rain. That entry makes the Arthurian ones look straightforward! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.166.12 (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, thanks! I've now read 'Mole Rain', and as you'll see it's now in the list of references. Very interesting! I'm beginning to think we should start thinking about a 'Chronicle of Wales' behind all the extant versions, a la the 'Chronicle of Ireland'. It may have commenced no earlier than the 7th century, and extended into the 10th? Henrywgc (talk) 23:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest study 

message: The only one I can locate seems to be here, but it's purposefully truncated. Anywhere else? — LlywelynII 15:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Online C Text

message: So this thingthe Annales Ecclesiae Menevensis, Annales Menevensis, "Annals of the Church at St Davids", whateverwhat the hell is it? Is it the same thing as the C text? It doesn't seem to be and it doesn't seem to match the extract given above. But what is it and what's its story? — LlywelynII 15:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like extracts from the C text to illustrate the succession of bishops at Mynyw. I don't know what its story is, though... Henrywgc (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: He talks about it in the preface: it's definitely from Cotton. Domitian A.I., but it's formatted so differently. Any idea where a simple complete copy might be? — LlywelynII 18:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Annals of the Menevan Church"

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Annals of wales. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annals of wales listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: the correct spelling should be “Annales Cambriæ”; if nobody objects, I will rename the article accordingly. --Jan Hejkrlík (talk) 21:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annales Cambriæ