Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals/Archive 1

message: I realise that the present image in the project banner is pretty stirring stuff, if you're British that is.  Try as I might, I wasn't able to come up with an 'international' image which was anything other than bland and anodyne.  If anyone can think of some themes which would be appropriate for a more international image then I'll be happy to replace this one.  
Xdamrtalk 20:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Project Banner/Images

message: Congrats on making a new WikiProject! I'm afraid this isn't much my field of expertise, so I won't be able to help out too much, but I'm glad that others will be working on this important and interesting subject, and I wish you luck!
I don't know if this quite falls under the purview of your Project, but I have recently created a category for :Category:Living National Treasures (Japan), and a number of other related categories. I would appreciate help populating it, if you should happen to come across such people. Please also note that those awarded this title still fall under this same category even after they are no longer alive. Thank you for your help. LordAmeth 22:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Living National Treasures 

message: , along with :Category:Order, decoration, and medal stubs have now been created.  This stub can now be used to tag all articles within the scope of the project.  Once tagged, they will be listed in the category.  Anyone who has a rainy afternoon on their hands can dive in, pick an article, and get it up to FA standard!  Well, perhaps not quite up to FA, but at least get it to show the minimum level of information in a standardised way.
Have fun, Xdamrtalk 16:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub now created

message: The WikiProject's category is :Category:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals articles, all project pages, templates, project images, etc go here.  Another category of interest is :Category:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals articles, this contains a list of all articles which have been tagged with the project banner, .
Xdamrtalk 17:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject categories

message: There is a category tag at :Category:British Commonwealth honours systems.
Postnominal letters,including titles for knighthoods, damehoods, and peerages MUST be included in biographies of the recipients. - (203.211.74.39 02:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:British Commonwealth honours systems]]

message: The super-cat structures in which "Orders, decorations, and medals of XXX" exists is :Category:Awards and :Category:Prizes, and includes :Category:Award winners, :Category:Prize winners, and :Category:Recipients of formal honors.  I proposed to merge A & P into A; and AW, PW, and ROFH into AW.  Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 9#Prize winners and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 9#Prizes.  I know there are technical distinctions (prizes usually used for awards with money, but occasionally just for money rewards), but as a category, the distinctions seem hard to maintain and not very useful. I think this should not hurt the ODM categorization scheme, since ODMs would continue to be specialized subcats with their own hierarchies, but if there are any bad (or good) implications for the ODM tree, please let us know now. --lquilter 15:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Related categorization issue

message: Anyone know what this is ?  Dowew 21:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is misidentified.  It is the Real Orden de Reconocimiento Civil a las Víctimas del Terrorismo, or "Royal Order of Civil Recognition of Victims of Terrorism", created in 1999. There is a page for it on the Spanish language Wikipedia, but not much information. Here are links to it and to the Spanish government web pages on the decoration:  Airbornelawyer 03:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Anti-Terrorism Order 

message: Further to my proposal above, taking account of comments received, here is the suggested scheme for categorisation within the national sub-categories of :Category:Orders and decorations.  Examples are given for both federal and non-federal governmental systems.
:Category:Orders and decorations
:|___ :Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of XXX (non-federal country)
:| . . |
:| . . |___ :Category:Orders of XXX - any suggestions for the name? 
:| . . |
:| . . |___ :Category:Civil awards and decorations of XXX
:| . . | . . |
:| . . | . . |___ :Category:Police long-service awards of XXX - example of type of awards
:| . . | . . |___ ...etc...
:| . . |
:| . . |___ :Category:Military awards and decorations of XXX
:| . . . . . |
:| . . . . . |___ :Category:XXX campaign medals
:| . . . . . |___ :Category:Long-service awards of the XXX armed forces
:| . . . . . |___ ...etc...
:|
:|
:|___ :Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of ZZZ (federal country)
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Federal orders of ZZZ - 'Federal' or appropriate national term
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Federal civil awards and decorations of ZZZ
:. . . | . . |___ ...etc, as per non-federal...
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Federal military awards and decorations of ZZZ
:. . . | . . |___ ...etc, as per non-federal...
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Provincial orders of ZZZ - Provincial/State/etc - adopt usage of country concerned.  ZZZ = country
:. . . | . . |___ ...articles on orders from each province/state...
:. . . | . . |___ ...or, if provincial/state orders are more extensive, categorise:...
:. . . | . . |___ :Category:Provincial orders of YYY - YYY = province/state
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Provincial civil awards and decorations of ZZZ
:. . . | . . |___ ...articles on awards from each province/state...
:. . . | . . |___ ...or, if provincial/state awards are more extensive, categorise:...
:. . . | . . |___ :Category:Provincial civil awards and decorations of YYY - YYY = province/state
:. . . |
:. . . |___ :Category:Provincial military awards and decorations of ZZZ - 'state' awards are to members of 'federal' armed forces
:. . . . . . |___ ...articles on awards from each province/state...
:. . . . . . |___ ...or, if provincial/state awards are more extensive, categorise:...
:. . . . . . |___ :Category:Provincial military decorations and awards of YYY - ie those of each state/province
Each of these categories can be omitted as appropriate, ie US has no federal or state orders, therefore no need to include category, etc.  Likewise, in a federal system, some of the 'provincial' categories can be omitted if they do not apply - ie. Canada has no provincial military awards, they all come from the federal government.
Xdamrtalk 16:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: National sub-categories, internal categorisation

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SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of the Thistle FAR