Talk:Czech alphabet

message: Peter Ladefoged in SOWL states that Czech Ď, Ň, Ť may be somewhere between palatal and postalveolar, but does not go into detail. Evidently these sounds are not actually palatalized the way, for example, Russian is. Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can tidy this up? kwami 18:51, 2005 August 13 (UTC)
According to :es:Alfabeto checo, Czech alphabet should have 31 letters and 11 variants. --Hello World! 03:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Old Greek and Slavic scripts were full of diacritics (serving a bit different purpose, but the idea was clear - especially to mark vowel length) rado 14:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Someone's opinion on Talk:Jan Hus (Accents section) gives few more details. Perhaps the author will write and article about it. Pavel Vozenilek 00:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

message: Wouldn't Czech "a" correspond more to  than ? I remember reading that somewhere, may have been the IPA Handbook, or something. +Hexagon1 (t) |*̥̲̅ ̲̅†̲̅| |>̲̅-̲̅| 09:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, , ,  and  are ligatures, not obsolete symbols, see IPA (s. 4.1.2). While they are not officially part of IPA their use is widespread and commonplace.  was included after the official character, as a secondary one, as quite a few Czech linguists are unsatisfied with the current illogical IPA representation of ř, it remains in some use despite it being retired, and should be included for reference (perhaps shaded grey). +Hexagon1 (t) 08:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The last version of the IPA does not support ligatures. Affricates are written as two letters, often linked by tie bar () if needed to emphasize the fact they are not two separate consonants. It can be added to the table, of course. But some browsers do not display it correctly (e.g. my new IE7). It think it should be replaced in the Czech phonology too. See also my replay to Hexagon1. --Pajast 15:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, some other browsers (such as mine IE6) do not display the tie bar. Jan.Kamenicek 17:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing to do with browsers, it's due to a fault in the Arial Unicode MS font, replace it with a real Unicode font as soon as you can. And when (rarely, but it can happen) the IPA is used, there's same chance the "new ř" will be used, as there is that the "old ř" will be used, that's why I think it should be included as an alternative. I agree with Jan.Kamenicek regarding ligatures, while they're not official any more they're still in very widespread use. +Hexagon1 (t) 08:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: We're going to use Unicode in this article, per a trillion conventions on Wikipedia. +Hexagon1 (t) 00:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid that I also have no idea, how to replace the Unicode fonts, so that I could see them displayed correctly. May I ask for an advice, how to do it? Jan.Kamenicek 19:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Download a Unicode font (for the purpose of this article you can use Gentium, it comes with IPA support). Copy (not cut) it to "C:\Windows\Fonts" (presuming you're using Windows). And while in the folder find Arial Unicode MS and delete it. It should work afterwards. (All standard disclaimers apply, no guarantees or responsibility :) +Hexagon1 (t) 05:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much. 
This regards the use of ligatures in IPA, which I personally support, as it is indeed possible to pronounce the sounds of [t] and [s] consecutively as separate sounds, and, therefore, in my estimation, they should be employed for the sake of clarity.  Is there any specific reason that these are not official members of the International Phoenetic Alphabet?  I see no good reason why this change should have been made. -Jacques Rosier  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.118.180 (talk) 00:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: IPA

message: Hus did not completely revolutionize diacritics in Czech. His letters from prison include a great deal of cz, sz, etc. He wrote De Orthographia Bohemica, to be sure, but diacritical marks were used before him and were standardized after him. --69.17.67.11 18:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hus 

message: H h	há	[ɦ]	[x], resp. [h]
Ch ch	chá	[x]	[ɣ] or [ɦ]
When are those pronounced that way? -iopq 16:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Czech phonology for explanation. --Pajast 14:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allophones 

message: X is used only in words of foreign origin (and "naturalized" versions of these words still keep this letter – X is not replaced with KS). 
G is used only in words of foreign origin + in some (moravian) dialects – "gajdy" (bagpipe), ...
There are only two "really" czech words which contains letter F: doufat (to hope) and zoufat (to despair)
Another letter which cannot be found in standard czech is Ó (long O) – it is used in colloquial czech (sometimes) + in naturalized word of foreign origin – jód (Iodine; jod is also possible), bór (Boron; bor is also possible) ...
see http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeceda (if you can speek czech)
--88.102.58.13 15:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  F, G and X in czech words? 

message: The words akademija nauk just mean "academy of sciences" in at least Russian but possibly also other Slavic languages. The most famous one is probably the Russian Academy of Sciences. Is that the one mentioned in the text? - Tournesol (talk) 12:32, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Akademija Nauk the Russian Academy of Sciences or some other Academy of Sciences?