Talk:Long Beach Island

message: I changed the Categories to properly reflect Long Beach Island New JERSEY.  Whoever created ths stub had the two of the categories going to NY, which Long Beach Island has no association with NY at, nor is there a Ocean Coutny NY, it's Ocean County NJ.  Just another example of why Wikipedia is not a very reliable source of information. I see several people went in and had already changed most of the erroneous references to NY, but missed the categories. How could anyone who created this page have associated Long Beach Island with New York.   if they created it, they should have actually have known where it was located. [Edit it seems as if someone on May 18th had changed everything to read that it was located in NY.] --JerseyDevil 22:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LBI is in NJ; not NY

message: Is there any information on how big the island is by area? All the information I could find measures its size only by length/width, but the width varies widely. Wl219 03:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Island geometry

message: Despite the source (sources are only as good as the person that wrote them), I'm still at a bit of a loss as to where 18 miles is coming from.  If one measures it on mapping software, it appears to be 21 miles across both Google & Microsoft.  Seeing as these are directly drawn from real satellite imagery, I just can't see much way to dispute it.  Is there something I'm missing? --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 00:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the first source doesn't work; and I can provide sources saying 21, too:  .  Now I don't mean to sound too intrusive here... it's just that measuring by satellite comes up with 21, though books such as this seem to indicate that 18 is firmly in the minds of many.  I'm wondering if 18 is the popular number because subtracting 3 miles of parkland (at the south) from 21 equals 18 of readily-accessible island.  Thoughts?  --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 04:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe LBI is growing on the south end (Holgate) due to the longshore current. That may explain the differences.  It may have only been 18 miles long years ago, but may now be 21 miles long. Famartin (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Three miles is a lot of growth over a few years. Sources should be added to document the new length, ideally explaining the change in size. Alansohn (talk) 17:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we restore it to 21 based on the satellite measurements?  I'm still at a loss as to how it's even possible to contest them. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 01:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:V seems to have a bias to requiring sources, rather than deducing from satellite measurements, and the sources I've found and added to the article show 18. Are there sources that show 21? Should we say that there are discrepancies as to the length, either 18 or 21? Is there any official source that would have the data and/or settle the matter? Alansohn (talk) 02:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I included 2 in my first post to this thread -- one is just a tourism website and probably not too reliable, but the other is the Washington Post.  My issue with many sources, however, is that a lot of journalists don't put too much thought into their sources.  You provided a source from one media company saying 18, and I found one from another which says 21.  As for WP:V, I agree that it doesn't give much credit to measuring existing geography, as that's borderline WP:OR... but it almost seems a bit ludicrous to think that we'd hold back something which is generally pretty accurate (satellite imagery services) for much of the developed world... and even a fair share of the undeveloped world.  Might this be an issue that move over to the discussion pages for either WP:V or WP:OR? --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 05:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

text: And just to further expand, official agencies may not be too reliable, either.  Perhaps if USGS or a NJ State website could be found giving the info, then that could be a bit more reliable.  I wouldn't put as much credit on a local government, chamber of commerce, or tourism website though... many of those along the Jersey shore are run by a local retiree that just wants to give back to the community.  Not to knock them too much, they certainly provide an excellent service to the community; but the ones I know tend to think that email forwards are the greatest thing since sliced bread :) --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 05:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Island length

message: I removed this comment from the introduction:
While going crazy you can chill with the best weed in NJ.
'nuff said. James A. Stewart (talk) 19:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  LBI has the best weed? 

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