Talk:George Grey

message: The spelling are of the word "Maori" as directly from the "The Penguin History of New Zealand".  I have inserted [sic] next to each spelling that are disputed by User:Evil Monkey, I am not sure if this is a good idea, but I am reluctant to actually change this historians Michael King written words. 
NevilleDNZ 04:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure "disputed" is the correct word. Basically all that happened was I went through and changed all the instances of Maori to Māori, not seeing that some are in a quote. And I also don't think sic is the best way to deal with it. I've just changed it back and we can let it be. Evil Monkey∴Hello 04:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling revision of a written quote

message: Credo Mutwa, Sangome Zanussi of Zulu africans, also historian, claims that George Grey is the founder of apartheid and racial discrimination in Africa in the mid 1800s. He is also said to be a favoured Illuminati contributor, and is directly connected to both the submission of Australian aborigines and African indigenious people. All this can be viewed on  wich is an interwiev conducted by famous historian  David Icke (very controversial), discusses a lot of what history has been biased by white men of power and great influence. Credo Mutwa talks about him about 3 hours and 35 minutes into the interwiev. George Grey is thus a great example of how historians are biased throughout history, and neglecting to recognize the great pain and terror inflicted to indigenious people in continents such as Africa and Australia.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jabulon88 (talk • contribs) 02:18, 15 August 2006.
Mention of the Illuminati and socalled "famous historian" David Icke suggests that either Grey was a reptile or that any quotes from Icke should be disregarded (the video mentioned is not avaliable) Hugo999 (talk) 00:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credo Mutwa on George Grey 

message: I think we might need to be a bit choosier about what we list as being named after Grey. Street names - hmm, there might be a lot of those!!! - there are probably streets named after Grey in almost every town in NZ for one thing. Maybe we could restrict it to towns and geographic entities  - others in NZ are the Grey River in the South Island, and thus (perhaps indirectly) the town of Greymouth at the mouth of the Grey. If there are no objections I may get rid of the street names Kahuroa 10:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the Fremantle case is important then, perhaps it might be more interesting included into the text in some way when Grey's time in Fremantle is being discussed - which might inform us more about Grey? What do you think? (I just did a quick search on smaps - there are 54 Grey or Greys St/Ave in New Zealand, each of which may or may not have some connection with Grey himself and each of which may have the right to be included in a list if one really gets going.) Kahuroa 18:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes should the Fremantle case prove important it could be incorporated in the article elsewhere (perhaps just before a list about plants named after Grey or colours named after Grey) or even in the section about him spending time in a real country Fancyfootwork 22:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha. Maybe a useful list could be one of the books he wrote... Kahuroa 00:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia re streets named after Grey

message: I think that at some point George Edward Grey should be moved back to George Grey.  It's a case of what Wikipedia:Disambiguation calls "primary topic" disambiguation rather than "equal" disambiguation since one of them is considerably more famous than the other.  Evidence:
* There are 32 links to George Edward Grey but George Grey (British politician) still doesn't even exist.
* Google
* A new link from Rodney (district), New Zealand, created after the move, ended up pointing to George Grey rather than at George Edward Grey.
* Counts of books, TV programs and placenames.
: Pm67nz 03:10, 24 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Pm67nz 09:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  This move has now happened. Pm67nz (talk) 01:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: The article refers to Maigo as his aboriginal guide during his second WA expedition yet the source I've got says Kaiber the source is Exploring in Western Australia by Hazel Biggs. Gnangarra 10:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Grey's Journals of Two Expeditions of Discovery in North-West and Western Australia use "Kaiber". There is no mention of a "Maigo" anywhere. This will need to be corrected at Aboriginal history of Western Australia too. Hesperian 11:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK fixed those ones Gnangarra 13:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It has just come to my attention that The Beagle (i.e. Wickham, Stokes, etc) had an aboriginal on board named "Miago". The "Maigo" mentioned in the article is almost certainly a misspelling of this name. Little wonder, then, that a search of Grey's journals turned up nothing. Someone should search Grey's journals again using the correctly spelled name. Hesperian 12:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very clear from Vol.2 of Grey's journals that it was Kaiber who accompanied him on his second expedition. Reference is made to Miago, but it's clear he wasn't part of this expedition. (Miago sounds like an interesting person, probably worthy of his own wikipedia entry.) SDavies (talk) 10:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maigo  

message: From the article it would seem that he was never married!! Lady Grey in South Africa is named after his wife. One of the justifications for infoboxes (those ugly boxy things on the side), is that one can access information at a glance without needing to go through the tedium of reading the article. What were the designers of this box thinking of - no provision for family or wife. Rotational (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is provision for his spouse to be added to the box, although I'd have to look up her name and if they had any children - if there's a town named after her in SA then it's likely she's notable enough to justify her own article. --Lholden (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omissions 

message: I've removed the additions done on 10 Feb 2011 by an anon. Apart from problems with spelling, missing spaces, punctuation and grammar, the content violated the WP:NPV policy. Schwede66 20:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of 10 Feb 2011 additions 

message: "Grey launched the invasion of the Waikato in 1863 to take control of the rich Māori agricultural region". Rich Maori Agricultural Region. I thought at that time it was all swamp (this is not an attempt at a joke, I am not an Aucklander) or rough hillside. Eddaido (talk) 00:41, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There was certainly a lot of swampland and dense forest. But Keith Sinclair, James Cowan and James Belich all refer to the Waikato in general and Rangiaowhaia specifically as a rich agricultural area that provided most of their food needs; they also seem to have had flour mills there for wheat they were presumably growing locally. The colonial settlers were also keen to purchase large expanses of land there for grazing. The wording would be correct. BlackCab (talk) 09:57, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grey launched the [[invasion of the Waikato]] . . . 

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message: I think that this article needs careful re-writing to establish a more neutral and evidence-based tone. Some of the language too is very strange or uncertain. For example, what does "Grey eschewed the class system to be part of Auckland's new governance he helped to establish" actually mean? Ncox001 (talk) 09:49, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  A re-write needed?