Talk:Creeping normality

message: Here is the source material for the heretofore-nonspecific reference to Jared Diamond's writings as a source for the "creeping normality" concept. The following paragraph is quoted from p. 425 of the original hardcover edition of Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed (published by Penguin Group, New York, 2005; ):
— Jaydiem (talk) 01:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source material for Jared Diamond citation 

message: I am working on adding more to this page. The idea was introduced through environmental degradation, that could be developed further. It is also referred to as Death by a Thousand Cuts, and that needs development. Also, other sources have used that term to include maternal obesity, as well as government interference. I hope to bolster the sites credibility by adding additional sources, introducing new research, and linking Jared Diamond's page to this one. 
Proposed bibliography of sources: 
Antheaume, N., & Barbelivien, D. Why do family businesses die? An investigation through the work of an ethnologist and geographer on the collapse of human societies.
Ariel, T. (2017). The Challenges Of Governance In A Complex World. World Scientific.
Armstrong, D. P., Hayward, M. W., Moro, D., & Seddon, P. J. (2015). Reintroduction biology of Australian and New Zealand fauna: progress, emerging themes, and future directions. In Advances in reintroduction biology of Australian and New Zealand fauna (pp 285-289). Clayton South, VIC: CSIRO Publishing.
Boston, J. (2017). Failing the future - Why governments short-change long-term interests. In Safeguarding the Future: Governing in an Uncertain World (pp. 13-31) (Vol. 52). Bridget Williams Books.
Chon, K. H. (2016). Cybercrime precursors: Towards a model of offender resources. PhD dissertation, Australian National University.
Ho, P. (2018). Lecture 1: Hunting black swans and taming black elephants: Governance in a complex world. In The challenges of governance in a complex world (pp. 1-35). Singapore: World Scientific Publishing Pte.
Schmied, V. A., Duff, M., Dahlen, H. G., Mills, A. E., & Kolt, G. S. (2011). ‘Not waving but drowning’: A study of the experiences and concerns of midwives and other health professionals caring for obese childbearing women. Midwifery, 27(4), 424-430. doi:10.1016/j.midw.2010.02.010
Wilkinson, S. A., Poad, D., & Stapleton, H. (2013). Maternal overweight and obesity: A survey of clinicians' characteristics and attitudes, and their responses to their pregnant clients. BMC Pregnancy and Childbirth, 13, 117. doi:http://dx.doi.org/10.1186/1471-2393-13-117
Wouter, V. J. (Ed.). (2018). Disrupted Balance-Society At Risk(Vol. 6). World Scientific.
Jakes27s (talk) 19:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed changes

message: Lisa, I think you did a great job of developing the death by a thousand cuts portion of this article. It is helpful to have more context around that. Out of curiosity did you look at any other books on this subject? There is a book on this subject by George Blue and Timothy Brook. It might be useful to leverage their take on it as well. 
I'm a little concerned on the balance portion of  the article. It could just be that there isn't much information for the other uses. Great job on providing more sources to this article! Looking forward to seeing the final version. 
Kehinton1 (talk) 23:32, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Lisa's Peer Review

message: As above, the section on the Covid-19 has no references or sources, and the tone doesn't seem very encyclopedic.
The difference between it and the other sections is telling: they all have at least one reference and further hyperlinks.
Frankly, I'd rather be bold and scrub the section entirely unless it was rewritten with a much better, properly sourced and referenced, neutral point of view (if this has been argued for and against by people, it's worth noting as an albeit controversial example).
However, as it's important to get consensus... What do y'all think? 
Re-reference/re-source the section, re-do the section so it's up to Wikipedia standards, or remove it entirely (perhaps just for now until a more relevant version can be made)?
2A02:8109:8300:C50:59E8:FC79:57C2:A207 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 12:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Covid-19 Pandemic" section is unsourced and lacks NPOV