Talk:French-speaking Quebecer

message: There is a concern raised at Talk:Québécois about the infobox showing only images of PQ premiers, suggesting a bias. I agree there should be a wider representation. Remember you can always add more images of various prominent people; see for example English-speaking Quebecer. –Pomte 21:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think when you're deciding on infobox pictures, only people who are generally viewed positively, by consensus among the group in question, should be chosen. I think René Lévesque meets that criterion (He had Dorchester Blvd. in Montreal named after him — by a federalist mayor?), but Lucien Bouchard doesn't. Pierre Trudeau could be a possible exception to this because of his exceptional prominence. I would have René Lévesque, Pierre Trudeau and Jean Lesage be the only politicians. And I agree that the weight of politicians should be moderate. How about Maurice Richard? Marc Garneau [(in a space suit) 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh man, if you are talking about Sol (comedian), he was hilarious and nostalgic. I would definitely support his image in the infobox, but as the only image I see is non-free, I'm not sure if this constitutes fair use. –Pomte 22:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, in any infobox, you'll want a mixture of important people well-known to the group themselves (Jean Lesage is viewed as an extremely important figure in Quebec, and Gilles Vigneault is not well-known outside Francophone countries), who you want outsiders to know about, and people who are sort of "ambassadors". Céline Dion is an ambassador to the world in that sense, and Sol was one to English Canada. William Shatner's addition to English-speaking Quebecer is an example of this. Here's another idea: Louise Arbour. Her role as chief prosecutor at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal, Supreme Court Justice, and now UN Human Rights Commissioner gives her a high profile.Joeldl 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. Three women would be even better. -- Mathieugp 02:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, that is a poor argument. Nowhere does it say that the person must still be residing in Quebec at the time of consulting the article. How could this even be implemented? -- Mathieugp (talk) 02:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias of images in the infobox 

message: Add names without regard to availability of free photographs. Comments about that can be made under the name. Joeldl 22:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed photos for infobox

message: African American has six. Six is probably the right number. I think we should try to have at least one non-white person, and at least two women. Joeldl 01:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Three women would be even better. -- Mathieugp 02:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How many photos in infobox?

message: Denis C. says in this edit that Michaëlle Jean's photograph shouldn't be included because she's moved to Ottawa to perform her function as governor general, so she's no longer a Quebecer. I'm sorry, but this is a frivolous argument. She is generally identified as a Quebecer in the media, not as an Ontarian. (Otherwise, wouldn't all federal politicians be Ontarian?) Before becoming governor general, I don't think she lived in any other province.
I added her photo because she is one of the most prominent non-white francophone Quebecers, and a photo of her without copyright restrictions was available. (Many photos used elsewhere are subject to fair use conditions, and fair use might not apply here.)
Since I added the photo recently, that means we're deadlocked 1-1, so I will have to treat Denis C.'s opposition as an indication that there is no consensus for inclusion of the photo. I would appreciate additional opinions here. Joeldl (talk) 00:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that is a poor argument. Nowhere does it say that the person must still be residing in Quebec at the time of consulting the article. How could this even be implemented? -- Mathieugp (talk) 02:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Michaëlle Jean

message: The entry name for this article has not been chosen appropriately, since it includes a repetition: La nation Québécoise est un peuple de langue française. Toute personne qui parle uniquement l’anglais est tout simplement un « Canadian ». C’est d’ailleurs comme ça qu’ils se nomment lorsqu’ils sont interrogés à ce sujet. Quand, pour certains, ils affirment être « Kebecer[sic] », ceci ne signifie pas qu’ils se considèrent membre de la nation Québécoise mais tout simplement qu’ils sont « Canadians » vivants dans « the province of Quebec »
Therefore, I recommend the change of name for this entry, which might rather be called "Québécois nation"(to be linked with the Québécois nation motion article).  The uniformity of the term should also be seriously discussed within the responsibles for this wiki, since we have the presence of unnecessary synonyms(Québécois, Quebecker and Quebecer) used without reason.  For an example of this, see especially the following disambiguation page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.162.58.44 (talk) 05:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Quebecois nation" and "French-speaking Quebecer" are two different concepts. Many people, certainly including Gilles Duceppe and Jean Charest, would dispute that they are synonymous. 82.124.100.124 (talk) 12:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The entry name for this article 

message: By "French-speaking" do we only mean those who have spoken French from birth?  What about those who speak French fluently, but not as their native language?  There are numerous such people in Quebec. 108.254.160.23 (talk) 03:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need clarification 

message: Is this page really necessary? It should probably just redirect to Quebecois people or French Canadian. There's really no new information on this page that can't be included in those two pages.
.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.246.14.30 (talk) 02:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of this page.