Talk:Taoiseach

message: Has this power ever been used? Did Mary Robinson really "not use it" thereby actually using it as asserted by RA? I thought Robinson said that in an interview years later that she would have refused one if asked, but was this view known at the time? A reference from the Examiner doesn't clarify this issue. Snappy (talk) 17:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, a President has never actually used it to date - some more context on the Robinson case here. https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/can-martin-form-a-ff-government-if-president-refuses-to-dissolve-the-dail-37417548.html Culloty82 (talk) 21:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refusal of dissolution 

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message: Is it true to say that the Office doesn't end until a new Taoiseach is appointed? Alternatively, might an analogous situation of sede vacante be said to exist upon the resignation of a Taoiseach? Is there a Taoiseach between the resignation of one and the appointment of another? If so, what is the Constitutional basis for it? Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's covered under Article 28.11°1 of the Irish Constitution "If the Taoiseach at any time resigns from office ...the Taoiseach and the other members of the Government shall continue to carry on their duties until their successors shall have been appointed" http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#part5 Culloty82 (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sede vacante 

message: "The Taoiseach ... is the head of government (prime minister) of Ireland. An Taoiseach is appointed by the President upon the nomination of Dáil Éireann.."
Bearing in mind that the English Wikipedia is read worldwide, it might be helpful to include in the first line—perhaps just before the pronunciation guide—a mention that 'An Taoiseach' is the Irish translation of the first two words. Harfarhs (talk) 13:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Alternatively, the vast majority of uses of "An Taoiseach" (capitalised A, for some reason) in the article should be replaced with "the Taoiseach."  Though yes, we should mention "An Taoiseach" once, in the lead. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:10, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Taoiseach 

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message: you reverted my change of the flag to a coat of arms, with the comment . So although the Taoiseach may not use the full coat of arms, he certainly does seem to use the harp symbol. See the image on the lecterns at , and the main symbol used for the Department of the Taoiseach at . It seems like creating a version of the harp for use on this page and others would be a good move, similar to the image at Chancellor of Germany, where it shows the "Emblem of the German government", also the main image at the centre of their coat of arms. I was personally somewhat surprised to see the flag on this page, and I didn't think it really fit with normal conventions on these kinds of pages. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 11:21, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted your change because the CoA of Ireland is used on all Acts of Oireachtas; the seal of the President; the cover of Irish passports; various government departments and the obverse of Irish euro coins, but is not used by the Taoiseach. I agree with you that the Taoiseach does not use the full coat of arms, but the harp symbol. I have no objection if you wish to create a harp symbol for this usage. Spleodrach (talk) 19:35, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Still up for me to do this? I thought the CoA of Ireland was used for the Taioseach, I guess I was mistaken. I can probably extract the harp from the CoA image file, and add it as a seperate image. BlockBuster2K43 (talk) 20:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag or coat of arms 

message: Article 13.1.1 of the Constitution says that "The President shall, on the nomination of Dáil Éireann, appoint the Taoiseach." The article says that "the Taoiseach is nominated by a simple majority of Dáil Éireann from among its members". In 2017, Leo Varadkar was elected by 57 votes + 2 tellers = 59 in favour to 50 votes + 2 tellers = 52 against with 45 abstaining - a total of 156 members who could have voted - see Dail Debates for 14 June 2017. 
As it stands, the article could be read to imply that a candidate needs an absolute majority of all members of the Dáil - currently 80/159. (That is the position in the US Electoral College, where a candidate needs an absolute majority of all electors - currently 270/538. It is also the position where a US Presidential or Vice-Presidential election is thrown into the House or Senate, where a candidate needs an absolute majority of state delegations (currently 26/50), or senators (currently 51/100)). I suggest that the sentence quoted should be amended to read "the Taoiseach is nominated by a simple majority of voting members of Dáil Éireann from among its members". Thoughts? Alekksandr (talk) 21:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Appointment

message: I have removed the following, as it is improperly referenced:
*Outside of Ireland and the UK, the Taoiseach is sometimes referred to as the Prime Minister of Ireland. 
The Guardian is a UK newspaper so cannot be used to reference that sentence, even if it did use the phrase Prime Minister of Ireland which it doesn't. I don't even think it's necessary to include any variant of that sentence with a different reference either, since it's hardly headline news that a media outlet sometimes uses "prime minister" instead of "Taoiseach". FDW777 (talk) 11:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence removed from the lede 

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message: Prime Minister of Ireland redirects here. However the above disambig exists to point at other offices including historical ones. WP:DABLINKUG suggests for a primary-topic redirect (target article name differs from the disambig term) link the disambig either in a hatnote or perhaps See also if the target title clearly distinguishes it. Here I'm not quite sure. Taoiseach is obviously different, but this is en and we should expect most readers to not speak Irish and not be familiar with the term. Readers will catch on that this is the current guy. But if they went to that term curious about history, or what the deal with N. Ireland is, they have to either dig into the prose or backtrack in their searching.
So just floating this to solicit input. If no one chimes in in a week or so I think I'll be conservative and just link the disambig in See also. 47.155.41.201 (talk) 23:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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