Talk:Southeast Limburgish dialect

message: Is the dialect of Aix-la-Chapelle closer to the one of Cologne or the one of Kerkrade ?
Sarcelles (talk) 07:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the last . Ad43 (talk) 12:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany 

message: This section uses unsatisfactory designations and extends beyond Southeast Limburgish. Sarcelles (talk) 13:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. Ad43 (talk) 12:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The dialects run well into Belgium. This should be Southeast Limburgish no more. Sarcelles (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

text: What do you mean? There are three separate articles already, but they also refer to each other. They can be headed as Dialects
 of the Three Countries / Three Languages Area.  Ad43 (talk) 21:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The dialects in Brabant are not Southeast Limburgish. Sarcelles (talk) 07:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Nobody denies that. Southeast Limburgish has its pendant only in the Province of Liege. Ad43 (talk) 17:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialects of Limburgish 

message: Ever since the definition of the Benrather linie by Georg Wenker, everything to the south of it is by definition ripuarian. On other wikipages placed I have seen "Southeastlimburgish" used for all dialects between the -lich/-lijk and the alt-aa(j)t isogloss. The current lemma simply describes the ripuarian dialects of Aachen, Kerkrade and Raeren. Therefore a more general, more descriptive and less confusing name would be limburgish-ripuarian. Hans Erren (talk) 00:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ripuarian or not 

message: Earlier in the article:
:The linguistic border of the Limburgish varieties to the South is the Benrath line, to the North it is the Uerdingen line. This means Southeast Limburgish is different in nature from the other Limburgish varieties.
After a recent change:
:The linguistic border of the Limburgish varieties to the South in most cases is the Benrath line, to the North it is nearly nowhere the Uerdingen line. This means Southeast Limburgish is different in nature from the other Limburgish varieties.
Both is unsourced.
For South Low Franconian the borders are: ik/ich-line or Ürdingen line (separating it from North Low Franconian), maken/machen-line or Benrath line (separating it from Ripuarian), Romance language border (Jan Goossens, Die Gliederung des Südniederfränkischen, 1965). Hence the former statement seems more correct.
--06:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced statement: Borders 

message: Earlier in the article:
:In Germany, it is consensus to class [...] Ripuarian as High German.
After a recent change:
:In Germany, it is [...] not consensus to class Ripuarian as High German.
Both is unsourced.
That Ripuarian is High German (or Central Franconian < West Central German < Central German < High German) can be sourced with dozens of references. That should also attest that it is consensus. Contradictory views (like Lameli 2016 who gave a new and uncommon classification of dialects in Germany) are uncommon minority opinions. That shouldn't attest the new statement. --93.221.40.167 (talk) 06:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced statement regarding Ripuarian