Talk:Cheaters Detective Agency

message: After reviewing the edit history on this article and the contributions made by Alibond, I believe the only reason this article was created and continues to be edited is for the purpose of promoting "Cheaters Detective Agency" on Wikipedia.
The link to the company's website, found here and on Cheaters, goes straight to a web site that displays a prominent link to a franchise/business opportunity with the company. The following was added to this article in March: "In 2007, the Cheaters Detective Agency Headquarters opened in Orange County, California, taking on confidential investigations not to be broadcast on the television show. The headquarters also began licensing the Cheaters Detective Agency trademark to other private investigators across the country. "The phone number 1-800-CHEATERS is answered in Orange County, California, and it fields over 16,000 phone calls a month from across the country". 
Attempts to add a notability tag have been reversed twice without cause or discussion. Woxd 02:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing personal. It is what it is, an article about a company and it only contains a phone number, the number of calls they get each month, their success rate, a reference to a franchise opportunity and a link to a page where people can learn more about the franchise opportunity. Promotional. After I added the notability tag you added one reference with no link or discussion. When I found this reference online I discovered one sentence that contained the words "Cheaters detective agency's", a remark that I take to be company generic and not a direct reference to this company. Woxd 07:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spam Tag

message: Alibond, you've asked other users on Wikipedia to join your side in this debate. Please read the following: "Advertising and soliciting meatpuppets: It is considered highly inappropriate or unacceptable to advertise Wikipedia articles that are being debated in order to attract users with known views and bias, in order to strengthen one side of a debate. It is also considered highly inappropriate to ask friends or family members to create accounts for the purpose of giving additional support. Advertising or soliciting meatpuppet activity is not an acceptable practice on Wikipedia. On-Wikipedia canvassing should be reverted if possible." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppets#Meatpuppets Woxd 09:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Meatpuppet activity

message: I have removed the speedy deletion tag, and I am the second admin to have done so. This should not be taken as a sign that the article should not be deleted, but that it does not fit the speedy deletion criteria. The article is not overly self-promoting ("blatant advertising requiring a significant re-write"), and the notability is established both inherently through its TV presence, and through an independent reference. The next stage in the deletion process should be WP:AFD. -- zzuuzz(talk) 19:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for reviewing the issue and adding your comments. Woxd 02:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speedy tag removed

message: Alibond, the introduction to this company is not only misleading it is not true. When I tried to correct that, with a source, you immediately reverted my edit. Your introduction makes it sound like Cheaters Detective Agency is not only performing investigative work, but also licensing other agencies to do the work. Neither is true. The following page on the company's web site site clearly states they are not accepting assignments. It also states the licensing is done by a company called C.N.E. Inc., not by Cheaters Detective Agency: http://www.cdacase.com/cda/License%20Interest%20page.html If you want to expand on the article and explain how phone calls are forwarded to other agencies, be my guest but please include a source. Woxd 01:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't control that page, so I don't know about the changes you quote here. But the phone number 1-800-CHEATERS has been investigating for people for years now. Maybe they realized a mistake, or even saw us writing about them here on Wikipedia. Alibond 19:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro is biased and misleading