Talk:List of highest-grossing films in the Philippines

message: I knew AWTR beat Star Wars on 1999. --Howard the Duck | talk, 06:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A Walk to Remember

message: Where did this list of the Highest-Grossing Films of All-Time came from, because even in box-office mojo doesn't contain this. Can someone give me the site where did this list came from.  
--Geniusdream (talk) 15:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHERE? 

message: I got a premier pass from Box-office mojo that enables me to convert dollars into peso. And I found some errors on the article, for me to change some parts of it. Like Spider-Man 3, it actually earned ₱ 419.76 million
the list is confusing. why separate sisterakas from the all time list?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.203.61 (talk) 13:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  premier pass 

message: I got a premier pass from Box-office mojo that enables me to convert dollars into peso. And I found some errors on the article, for me to change some parts of it. Like Spider-Man 3, it actually earned ₱ 419.76 million
--Geniusdream (talk) 02:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  premier pass 

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message: This page should be removed as this contains baseless details. This is always being edited by people based on their own perception with no solid proofs. 112.198.82.119 (talk) 12:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete this page 

message: Please define regular film if there is any. I can't believe this! Hollyckuhno (talk) 15:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regular? 

message: All time yeaHHHHHH  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.230.30.42 (talk) 10:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is inflation? 

message: [Copy of the entire article removed]
112.198.90.20 (talk) 12:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding Eugene Domingo to the lead seems reasonable,  Done. LittleMountain5 19:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2014 

message: The articles List of highest grossing independent Filipino films, and List of highest grossing Filipino films (redundant to this page) are much better to be merged into this article. This article, on the other hand, needs to be re-organized/restructured and needs more references to support reliability of the information.-- 09:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: please change the line up list from:
"It Takes a Man and a Woman	Star Cinema	2013	₱ 375,024,507"
to
"It Takes a Man and a Woman	Star Cinema	2013	₱ 403,345,031"
since ITAMAW had highest gross based on boxofficemojo. The placement must be change also. Thanks.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?id=_fITTAKESAMANANDAW01&country=PH&wk=2013W16&id=_fITTAKESAMANANDAW01&p=.htm
Giggerboy (talk) 01:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2014 

message: To update the gross of each movie.
114.108.216.23 (talk) 02:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016 

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message: I can't believe that Hollyckuhno thinks that news articles are not worthy as reliable sources in this article. Box Office Mojo isn't enough as the only "reliable" source in this article because it's incomplete and doesn't provide a full year tracking coverage. This completely disregards MMFF entries as BOM never tracks these films and MMFF is the source of most Filipino films which becomes highest grossers. Janbryan (talk) 02:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources you provided are not reliable. A reliable source should show the exact box office figures and not the rough estimates. Another thing that bothers me is that most press releases does not indicate whether the gross was earned outside or inside the Philippines. Let me remind you that the article is about the highest-grossing films IN THE PHILIPPINES. Hollyckuhno (talk) 02:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding your primary concern about domestic grosses, please review the new sources. Most of those references states that they were box office revenue inside the Philippines. I can't even believe that you've deleted the Beauty and the Beast reference clearly stating that it's the new highest grossing film in the Philippines with updated numbers of P667 million. Janbryan (talk) 02:39, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

text: There's NO RULE in any Wikipedia guidelines stating that "A reliable source should show the exact box office figures and not the rough estimates." Well, even, the article List of highest-grossing films uses estimates. Janbryan (talk) 02:47, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are clearly press releases from the film's distributor itself and most does not indicate whether they are local or international gross. There's really no rule but my primary concern here is the verifiability  of each box office gross. A third-party source that show exact figures will still be the best reference for this article or any other articles about box office. Hollyckuhno (talk) 02:51, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

text:  If you want to add those vague claims, you can add it to List of highest-grossing Filipino films of all time. Hollyckuhno (talk) 02:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As much as we want BOM to be our only reliable source, we can't do that as they don't provide comprehensive tracking like they do in US and Canada. We're also uncertain if BOM will continue tracking every week as they have a spotty record in 2015 and 2016. The next big thing we can have as reliable sources are the film distributors themselves. And again, top grossing-MMFF entries are also worthy to be included. I can't include my revisions in List of highest-grossing Filipino films of all time because those provide complete box office grosses including international grosses. Again, I reviewed my references so they state that they are only domestic grosses. Janbryan (talk) 03:16, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry but I will never accept press releases (especially those showing rough estimates) as they can be manipulated in favor of the film's distributors. Anyway, those films you added are already in the List of highest-grossing Filipino films of all time so there's really no need to add those in this article as it will only disrupt the standard that I started for this article. Beside it is already indicated in this article that BOM does not tracks MMFF films. I suggest for you to create an article solely dedicated for MMFF box office. Hollyckuhno (talk) 03:28, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can't own an article and expect everyone to follow your own rules. This article doesn't reflect the reality that some highest grossing films in the Philippines are MMFF entries. You might as well rename this to "List of highest grossing non-MMFF films in the Philippines." Before you even did these major changes in this article, the consensus back then was to include MMFF entries. Janbryan (talk) 03:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well MMFF itself does not disclose their grosses every year. Last year's was not even disclosed. I suggest for you to just create a separate article for MMFF films because there's a reason why BOM can't track MMFF films. I only stand for the standard that I started and to keep the article as neutral as possible. If you want to add those vague claims of yours then might as well  remove all BOM citations or delete this article altogether. Hollyckuhno (talk) 03:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not stating that BOM references should be removed. BOM and other reliable sources should go hand in hand together to make this article as complete as possible. Janbryan (talk) 03:59, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  It will never be complete since MMFF did not disclosed their annual grosses since its foundation and BOM only started operating in the country in 2007. My  goal is to make this article as high standard as possible. That is why it is noted in the introduction that BOM only started tracking films in the country in 2007 and it does not track MMFF films to avoid confusing the readers. Anyway, I will just have to nominate this article for deletion as it is valid for WP:SYNTHESIS. Thanks. Hollyckuhno (talk) 04:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  What do you mean that MMFF didn't disclosed their annual grosses since its foundation? They did in some occasions. See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. This article doesn't violate WP:SYNTHESIS as I didn't combine material from multiple sources just to imply the facts I put on the table. Those grosses are explicitly stated in the references. If you are referring to the MMFF entries that I've added that has double references, those references explicitly state the same grosses. I didn't join the Star Cinema reference and PEP reference just to imply a conclusion not stated in these references. I can't believe that just because you don't like my edits that used reliable sources, you're planning to nominate this for deletion. Janbryan (talk) 04:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well MMFF was founded in 1975. Can you provide a comprehensive coverage since 1975? I'm not referring to your additions, I am referring to the whole article. It is obviously a synthesis since the sources were put together to create a conclusion (the highest-grossing films in the Philippines). There's not a single reference that stated the list as a whole. By the way, your citations are not reliable enough. How can a press release be a reliable source to you? Hollyckuhno (talk) 04:39, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

text: I will rather have this article deleted than to let you disrupt the quality I have been maintaining for quite a while now. Hollyckuhno (talk) 04:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Including news articles as official sources 

message: Almost all the sources about the box office figures of Maid in Malacañang comes from a local tabloid magazine named Bandera. Is there a way to fact check their derived incomes? Box Office Mojo can't help since it only features international films. Allenjambalaya (talk) 02:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, The Bandera source of the Maid in Malacañang film is referencing to this same Wikipedia article as its source. It should be removed unless a more verifiable source can be found. Kontrabida89 (talk) 07:26, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the source and the entry from the meantime until we reach concensus if we should include it on the list. Bandera is an editorial tabloid, which is clearly an unreliable source. Bandera mentioned Darryl Yap as a source, and Darryl Yap himself, mentioned Wikipedia as his own source. This is a clear example of circular reporting (like what happened to the Alan McMasters article, that claimed to be the inventor of the oven toaster, and news sites citing Wikipedia as a source, but it turns out it was a prank) I always want to maintain neutral point of view and this is in no way made with any political motive, I believe Wikipedia takes this certain matter seriously for it's credibility, so discussion on the talk page is needed. -–A6397 T A L K!  23:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

text: Another reason is since it's an unverifiable claim, the IMDBPro analytics (although it's not reliable too but has no conflict of interest because it didn't come from the producer or director itself) states that the film grossed $500,000 worldwide.-–A6397 T A L K!  00:10, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maid in Malacañang Box Office figures questionable despite of the quoted source