Talk:Charles Byrne (giant)

message: The article says that Byrne's height is a matter of conjecture, with estimates from 8' 2" to 8' 4", and yet his skeleton is preserved, and is 7' 7". --Stemonitis 07:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles#Derry/Londonderry - "Use Derry for the city and County Londonderry for the county in articles." Alekksandr (talk) 09:45, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it should be referenceable, though it's worth bearing in mind that it could be confusing to readers to have an area in County Londonderry referred to as South Derry. However ultimately at the end of the day this article is about a person, not details on the village he grew up in, so adding layers of qualification and reference to the settlement location, naming and colloquialisms of the village and the area name is irrelevant to this article and undue. It may be relevant for an article on Littlebridge, but not for an article on a person from Littlebridge. Canterbury Tail talk 11:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

text: That comment is inappropriate, . On the issue of the content, I agree that the following text is irrelevant in the article and detracts from the point of the article: Schazjmd (talk) 14:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

text: (Ignoring personal digression) As a reader, when I get to the multiple sentences trying to establish precisely where Littlebridge is located, I assume that information is important to the biography. But then I read the rest of the article and discover that it makes no difference to my understanding of the subject. So the article wasted my time as I tried to figure out the hamlet's location in relation to Lough Neagh, Drummullan, Cookstown, and County Tyrone. Maybe you can come up with a map to show where Littlebridge is. Schazjmd (talk) 18:37, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objections to the word Derry, I do however have objections with referring to the county as County Derry as this is against WP:DERRY, and referring to part of County Londonderry as South Derry or North Derry is going against WP:DERRY. If you wish to refer to the county, or part of the county, as Derry then you will need to obtain consensus at WP:IMOS to alter the current consensus for the county name. Otherwise as per the consensus, the county is to be referred to as Londonderry. You are aware of the IMOS, and that it's followed. Since this consensus exist, I therefore assume along the lines of that, that a reference to South Derry is indeed the city as that is the entity named Derry on Wikipedia. That's all. Canterbury Tail talk 21:03, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

text: For reference, I am not accusing you of altering County Londonderry to County Derry, you have not been doing such edits and in the edits I have seen of yours (I do not follow you around, we just happen to end up on many of the same articles) you do not make this alteration. My only comment on this was that using South Derry to refer to part of the county is still against WP:DERRY if it is being used as a reference to part of the county and not the south of the city. As for more info on where the article subject is from, if that location is notable enough then maybe it should have a Wikipedia article. However I believe it is undue to add too much detail on the village to an article on the person, simply mentioning where he is from is sufficient, as it's an article on a person not the village. Canterbury Tail talk 21:33, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: How about moving the location details to a footnote? Schazjmd (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made it an efn in the article to show how it reads with that approach. Schazjmd (talk) 21:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

text: @Laggan Boy, you could add information about Littlebridge to :Drummullan (which currently takes "credit" for Byrne, without any explanation for how Littlebridge relates to Drummullan). Schazjmd (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

text: I'd just like to say I completely understand why you don't like the word Londonderry, I entirely get it. I'm not a fan of it myself. However Wikipedia's consensus has chosen to go with the name the county was named when it was created and how it was officially always used when it existed as a government authority and how it's still named as a postal area and geographical location. Due to the fact no official authority has had any desire to change it's name. As a result the name County Derry is purely colloquial. I get it, honestly I do, but the unfortunate facts push it otherwise and people (understandably) not liking the name doesn't alter that. Maybe when Northern Ireland eventually leaves the United Kingdom and joins with (Republic of) Ireland that may change, but for now it's what we're left with. Canterbury Tail talk 23:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: County Londonderry

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©Geni (talk) 14:01, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Skeleton no longer on display