Talk:Universities and Colleges Christian Fellowship

message: A few minutes ago, the page was blanked by  and a short verbal attack article was written in its place: ().  Five minutes later  added a  tag.  I don't think this article is eligible for speedy deletion, as it has a long history of not being an attack article. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The number of times I've forgotten do do that … Tonywalton  | Talk 12:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contest speedy delete

message: Some of the comparisons need detailing and sourcing - for instance the "just 200 members in a student population of more than hald [sic] a million" confuses me because Student Christian Movement of the United Kingdom implies it's not a direct membership organisation. Also can anything currently in existance be said to be "in terminal decline"? Timrollpickering 17:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Typo corrected, and 'almost ' inserted before the words 'terminal decline'. DFH 21:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The separation of the CICCU/nascent IVF from the Student Volunteers/nascent SCM is documented in J. C. Pollock, A Cambridge Movement, chapter XIII, Controversy (p159-174). DFH 21:43, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pollock's book is listed in CICCU#Bibliography. DFH 21:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparisons with the SCM 

message: Steve Bruce (whose PhD thesis title I have cited in the bibliography section) is the Professor of Sociology at the University of Aberdeen, and the author of several books.  I have known about this thesis for a number of years, though not had the opportunity to see it.  The thesis is cited in the online article Notes from a second-class convert: How Leith Samuel became a Christian on the website of Evangelicals Now. For many years, Leith Samuel was minister of Above Bar Church, Southampton, and a well known speaker within UCCF circles. DFH 22:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professor Steve Bruce 

message: I've removed the full text of the Doctrinal Basis and just put some key quotes in the text. The source is in the references, so should be easy to find. I'd also like to work the "Core values" section into the text so it's not just copied from the website (which may be a copyright problem). Finally, I agree with the discussion above, so have added a  tag. --h2g2bob 21:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: The wording of the introduction sounds like an advertising pitch written in Christian jargon, not an NPOV encyclopedia article. The expressions "making disciples of Jesus Christ in the student world"
and "creating opportunities for students to hear the gospel message of Christianity" could be re-worded more succinctly as "engaging in evangelism" and "promoting evangelism". Maybe I'm excessively cynical, but the placement of those links to Jesus Christ and the gospel suggests that the article itself is trying to evangelise us rather than to describe the role of UCCF. Admittedly the article on evangelism isn't very good (other possibilities would be missionary and proselytism), but it seems more relevant than Jesus Christ and the gospel, which belong in a general article on Christianity; you might as well go the whole way and point out that UCCF members are multicellular organisms living on planet Earth, if you're going to tell us what a Christian is. Also, I assume "student world" means the United Kingdom university population (bear in mind that "student" has a much broader meaning in American English, covering everything from kindergarten upward). The bit about "encouraging one another" is vague. I know it's an expression Christians like to use, but what does it mean in precise terms? It sounds like a bunch of kids inciting one another to throw paper darts at the teacher.
The information in the "core values" section needs to be rewritten in encyclopedic style, or else removed (most of it has been said in the introduction anyway). Expressions like "Mobilised in mission, reaching students with the good news of Jesus Christ" do not belong in Wikipedia, unless there's a specific reason to discuss the quotation. Quotation marks are not an excuse for POV material; please refer to the articles on Jesus Christ and Christianity for NPOV descriptions of Christian doctrine and Christian activity, which have been reviewed extensively by people of all religious persuasions. Nanopede 03:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and style issues 

message: The present version  of this article says that Norman Grubb and his friends "began the Cambridge Inter-Collegiate Christian Union (CICCU)."  However, the article on Cambridge Inter-Collegiate Christian Union says that CICCU "was formed in 1877" -- some 33 years before Grubb's time.
Some fact-checking is in order here to determine what was the role of Grubb and his friends at CICCU. -- 70.239.248.62 (talk) 22:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly suspect that CICCU (or whatever it was called then) was founded in 1877, affiliated to SCM, before it fell to the dark side in Grubb's time DBD 17:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factchecking: Founding of CICCU 

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