Talk:Susan Kramer, Baroness Kramer

message: The article has just been edited to add the comment "she has a jewish background." While I don't think our MPs backgrounds are totally irrelevant, this comment comes across as complete non-sequiter, leaving me feeling "So what?"  
I think the reference to her jewish background should be expanded, rephrased or deleted. Biscit (talk) 11:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and will remove this sentence. She's already in :Category:English Jews, I don't see the need to draw further emphasis to her background by mentioning it in the article. Terraxos (talk) 01:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Background

message: "resigned from the Lib Dem front bench to defend her seat from a renewed Conservative campaign to regain Richmond." which on letterbox leaflets translates as "a strong voice for local people" and at a meeting with constituents in Mortlake Church translated as something like "I spend most of my time on local issues because that's what most people contact me about", for example Thames Water's practice of digging up roads, a post office closure reversed, planning issues around Sainsbury's in Barnes, behind Waitrose in East Sheen and of course number 24 Avenue Gardens. I did try to ask about why she'd failed to follow a national issue after making a show of forwarding letters and telling me that she'd keep me informed (it turned out that a bill on the subject had been going through parliament and she didn't know) but I live in Avenune Gardens so she gave me the speel about number 24. 
When I contacted her she had not put me in touch with a party specialist on the subject, nor had an opinion on it, nor know about it even though the subject was being debated by both houses of parliament (twice) and at whatever committees. It was about access to legal help after machiavellian unfair dismissals by government funded agencies, and the way unions use no-win no-fee lawyers on commission. Pretty technical stuff unless you're embroiled in it, or an MP debating the legal services bill. To people who are embroiled in it, it's as important as being the victim of a life-changing crime. To MPs debating it, it's a zero priority compared to access to the back of Waitrose in East Sheen or the new Sainsbury's development in Barnes. And the delegate from Barnes didn't hang-on to listen to East Sheen either. Most of the delegates in this South West London meeting were quite well educated and knew perfectly well that Sue Kramer was not on the planning committee of the council, but at Westminster, but they hastle her nevertheless as an excuse to see inside each other's living rooms in protest meetings over cheese straws. Maybe there should be a new offence called hassling an MP about something that is known to be a council issue.
I think there could be an interesting paragraph about this type of MP: the one who knows every council issue, asks her secretary to forward every letter, and doesn't consider a law or a budget or a national administrative isue from one year to the next. For example SK was vice chair of Citibank before the collapse and bail-out of US and UK banking but did not volunteer to be on any select committees about banking. Personally I think that concentrating on "local people" instead of doing something related to the right to vote at Westminster and use the library and offices there with three staff is as bad as some of the levels of expenses claims that are in the news, but I may be in a minority.
To end on a positive note, SK is one of the few MPs not to have used the concealed salary or generous expenses scheme, and so deserves great credit for that.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veganline (talk • contribs) 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "local people" v. role in Westminster to help the rest of us

message: I've removed that she is a 'balding London businesswoman', on the grounds that it is a patently sexist description (it's not gratuitously applied to men in Wiki).  If she goes out of her way to discuss balding, then that would be a reason to put it back.--JO 24 (talk) 07:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Balding

message: I have put a "citation needed" template by the following sentence:
"In March 2003, she again sought the party's nomination for Major of London, but was beaten in a three-way race for the candidacy by Simon Hughes, and given the option to stand for Richmond as a consolation by the party."
It is the last clause that needs backing up with sources: the Lib Dems do not usually give people "consolation" seats, simply because candidate selection is up to each constituency party. It might be possible for the London or federal party to "encourage" someone's adoption on a shortlist, but they would still have to win the votes of the local membership. If there is no source the last statement should be rephrased. Tamino (talk) 16:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consolation prize? 

message: When Karmer becomes Ennobled she will still commonly be known as Susan Kramer and and that will be the common name. The page must not be moved to the Ennobled title as it would violate WP:commonname. The page must not be renamed.--Lucy-marie (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Page title when Ennobled 

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