Talk:Peel Regional Police

message: I've tagged the "Misconduct Allegation" section for POV for the following reasons.  
#I am not sure whether the charges against Const. Sheldon Cook and Const. Roger Yeo should be in this section.  The charges are not the result of their actions as police officers nor the police force is sued.  It is lik saying that if any employee is charged with a crime then the whole company is criminal..
Addendum: I would just say that because officers Cook and Yeo are indeed police officers, the fact that they are being charged with a crime is a grievous enough reason for me. Yes, they're only human and will make mistakes, but these guys are supposed to be the guardians of the law and if they're being charged with a crime, I want to know about it no matter what. So in this case, yes, if an employee (police officer) is being charged with a crime then the whole company (the Peel Regional Police) is by proxy criminal. There must be no criminals in a police force, otherwise the law will suffer as a result. I already feel disgraced just by living in Peel and having these guys supposedly serve us.--Starlit Stalin 23:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Comment: Calling the whole company (PRP) criminal by proxy is way off base. It reflects a serious lack of understanding of justice and civics. It's seriously unfair and its an attitude that has no place in preparing a well written and balanced article. Wiggy! (talk) 21:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I see the merit of balancing the good with the bad, but not necessarily the need to report on the actions of employees who are not at work or on duty. Every company, organization, group, etc. will have employees or members who break the law, but it would not be in anyone's interest to report all these occurrences in every entry. However, if a member of an organization or company is convicted of abusing their position to the point of making the news, then there may be merit in including the information in the entry. --JeffJ (talk) 15:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Valid points all, but, for better or worse, police are held to a tough standard. Yeo's conduct was reported on in a major article in Maclean's magazine and I don't see how you untangle the mess of the man, his conduct, and his employment with the police. The disciplinary process he is being subject to is based on his employment as a police officer. I think it's  important to keep it as even-handed as possible to avoid an overt anti-police bias. To simply remove, or bury it would be its own POV. To its credit the Peel force is dealing with Yeo in an up front manner and that is an important aspect of the whole thing. Wiggy! (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

message: This article needs far more balance; the controversies are few and far between, relatively speaking, but this article seems to imply that there's been nothing but controversy with this police force. I'm going to tag this article for a POV-check. Mindmatrix 16:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:PeelRegionalPoliceSymbol.jpg

message: Amazingly the Peel Police themselves continue to attempt to censor this Wikipedia article.
The IP Address: 204.138.85.6 has been responsible for a number of vandalisms where the “Controversies” section of this article is completely blanked out without explanation. Seen here: []
You’ll notice that the Peel Police also have time, while on duty, using computers and internet access paid for by tax payers’ dollars to edit articles ranging from the Phoenix Roadrunners IHL team, to questions on “Tampon Usage”.
A simple WHOIS lookup shows that 204.138.85.6 is in fact registered to the Peel Regional Police. 
IP Addrss: 204.138.85.6
OrgName:    Peel Regional Police 
OrgID:      PRP
Address:    7750 Hurontario Street
City:       Brampton
StateProv:  ON
PostalCode: L6V-3W6
Country:    CA
NetRange:   204.138.80.0 - 204.138.87.255 
CIDR:       204.138.80.0/21 
NetName:    PRP
NetHandle:  NET-204-138-80-0-1
Parent:     NET-204-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.EASYDNS.COM
NameServer: NS2.EASYDNS.COM
NameServer: REMOTE1.EASYDNS.COM
NameServer: REMOTE2.EASYDNS.COM
Comment:    
RegDate:    1994-08-30
Updated:    2007-04-20
OrgNOCHandle: DBA70-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   Bachuk, David 
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-905-453-2121
OrgNOCEmail:  
OrgTechHandle: GBI3-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Bignell, Gary 
OrgTechPhone:  +1-905-453-2121
OrgTechEmail:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.244.251.246 (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mindmatrix above has spoken about POV problems, and the controversies section may well have POV problems, however complete removal is vandalism. Wikipedia operates on priciples of discussion, concensus and then change. If vandalism continues, the IP addresses will just be warned and then eventually blocked from editing wikipedia. The police force does not have the right to remove vast content from this article, they don't own it, it would be the same as them censoring the press if the press printed an article on thier controversies. This could escalate into a matter for the Admins noticeboard and WP:COI if it continues. It's quite controversial stuff, I'll keep my eye open. SGGH speak! 16:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Oh, incidentally, the references need to use ref tags and there needs to be a footnotes section, rather than just these [www.google.com] box links :) SGGH speak! 16:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for your support and balanced words, SGGH. Phew, with your last remark you put me to work... but now it's done. --Cyfal (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Good stuff, the article is also protected for 5 days from IP editing. SGGH speak! 22:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, and with discussion like this that can be achieved. I hope the vandalism issue won't carry on once protection lifts, but if it does feel free to message me. SGGH speak! 00:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peel Police Censorship and Vandalism 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:SIULOGO.jpg

message: As I stated previously, there are some concerns with this article. Chief among them is that it is quite unbalanced, giving undue weight to the controversies section. Moreover, it cites material from only the past five years, with negligible mention of earlier periods. This article has previously received attention from anon editors who deleted this section outright, and although wholesale deletion is unwarranted, it does need trimming. Perhaps this material could be better incorporated into the text, with each entry in the controversies section appearing alongside a mention of the case itself. Of course, only truly notable cases should appear here. Mindmatrix 22:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article is unbalanced

message: The officers had a preliminary hearing as to the evidence, where the judge found cause to proceed. It was not a "preferred indictment via the Minister" this is a falsehood. This is referenced. Edit made.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glinebet (talk • contribs) 22:49, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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