Talk:Philip José Farmer

message: Could we have some more bibliographical info, ie whereabouts he was born, lives now, ect, ect.
203.211.69.201 10:46, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Felt stong enough to do it. RLetson 04:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like he's begun writing short material again, so can't be all that frail.
--FarmerCollector 03:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for more info

message: Surely Tarzan Alive and Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life are not non-fiction.  They are fiction pretending to be non-fiction, or "Pseudo non-fiction" ?  His website calls them fictional biography.
Riverworld War is shown as 1964 - this does not seem likely - it consists of an extract and an edited version of two 1979 novels.  His website gives a 1980 publication date.
-- Beardo 08:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of works 

message: "His parallel universe series World of Tiers inspired Roger Zelazny's Amber series." - did it ?
-- Beardo 07:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amber 

message: I have heard rumors that the song "Purple Haze," by Jimi Hendrix, was inspired by a line from one of Farmer's novels.  Is this true?
:No. 50.111.23.144 (talk) 01:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Either you've made that up, or you've been misled. The genesis of the song can be found in Caesar Glebbeek's biography of Hendrix.50.111.23.144 (talk) 01:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Purple Haze

message: It doesn't really seem appropriate to me that his novel "Flesh" redirects to the Meat article. Would anyone object to removing the linkage to said article?
I have amended, also Love Song (led to a Christian Rock Band) and Dare (leads to a disambig. page, but no mention of the novel there.  BUT - do all his novels deserve their own pages ?  Surely not ?   -- Beardo 05:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flesh + other links 

message: There was a note that a lot of the info here is not sourced, so I added a "references" section, with Mary Brizzi's "Reader's Guide" book.  This is an adequate reference for much of the information listed, for people looking for a source (although only up to date as of the early 1980s, of course).
Geoffrey.landis 02:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference added 

message: This article is sorely in need of additional citations. The career section is especially in need of attention as it is plagued by Weasel Words, an example:
"His Apocalyptic Life" (1973)—wherein he conducts a exigetic mock-biography that winds either character in with a mind-boggling array of other fictional characters."
S. Luke 05:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not weasel-worded--it's just badly written. RLetson (talk) 06:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

text: First, "exigetic" is more likely a misspelling of "exegetic," from "exegesis," which my trusty American Heritage Dictionary defines as "critical explanation or analysis; especially, interpretation of the Scriptures." And Farmer's pseudo-biography is indeed exegetical (the correct form of the adjective in this context) in that it analyses Doc Savage's life. Second, look at the opening paragraph of the WP:AWW article again. "Weasel words" are those that attempt to avoid taking responsibility for making a strong assertion by watering down or otherwise obfuscating the language. Unsourced assertions may or not be weasel-worded, but this passage is actually the oppostite of weasel-y--it's over-assertive ("mind-boggling" is not quite a neutral descriptor) as well as clunkily written. RLetson (talk) 04:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional Citations and Weasel Words

message: I notice that this article is only describing Farmer's work, but not the person. Such a long life, and we learn nearly nothing about it here... Gestumblindi (talk) 23:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the links on this site might help flush out a workable biography. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 23:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting observation..With many artists we learn about the work, and only rare exceptions discuss the life..Picasso, Hemingway, Pollock, Joyce...What do we know about ER Burroughs or Arthur C. Clarke? Modernist (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I would have to disagree that Farmer's personal life isn't that important.  Often the experiences of writers influence their works, as you pointed out.  The important thing is to have sources to back some of these connections up and that would build the biography that is acceptable for an encyclopedia.  Arguably some of his history is just necessary to begin with such as birthday, hometown, education, etc.  On a side note not only do most people not know who Farmer is, but they also don't know what he looks like.  Can we get a picture? Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a question of whether the writer's personal life is important, it's a matter of what can be reasonably made to fit an encyclopedia article. And right now there isn't a literary biography of Farmer, though biographical information is scattered throughout his work, in interviews and reference books, and some may also be found in the fanzine Farmerphile, to which both Phil and his wife contributed. Come to think of it, watch for the obit and appreciations that will appear in Locus. RLetson (talk) 03:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't sound so hard.  Wikipedia has the tools to make a workable bio for the article, just requires some time to gather the works, read them, and then enter them on the article with cites.  I'll get on it as soon as push World War Z for GA status. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree with RLetson. In Farmer's case it's his voluminous and creative works that dominate the interest in him as a writer; not his personal drama. Although a picture as well as a fleshed out biographical sketch would be welcome here...Modernist (talk) 03:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I never suggested a multi-volume work on Farmer's life including every detail on his personal life, only a sketch for a Wikipedia article as you suggested.  I disagree though with RLeston that it can't be done because of context. I plan to use these as examples when I get to work on it: :Category:FA-Class biography (arts and entertainment) articles. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who was Philip José Farmer? 

message: I so wish someone would find a better picture  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.85.18.26 (talk) 18:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: I so wish someone would find a better picture

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message: Farmer claimed that he was of one-eighth Cherokee descent. Could anyone please tell me if there's any truth to this?--Thylacine24 (talk) 13:19, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cherokee descent? 

message: (Spoiler ahead, obviously.) In the World of Tiers section, there's a mention of Earth as a constructed universe. Could I please remove that?--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:57, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to remove spoiler