Talk:Michael Persinger

message: A long time ago (in a galaxy, well, here) in a magazine article on Dr. Persinger I read that he originally emigrated to Canada to avoid the draft.  If someone could run this down to determine that it's a fact it might be added as a line to his bio.  I do not think it affects the legitimacy of his work. -Wfaxon 06:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bio 

message: It seems to me that this article is much too narrowly focused such that it lacks range and scope, further exacerbating the POV bias that has been mentioned above.  Persinger has done much more than is mentioned.  His theories, while controversial, are interesting and deserve to be taken seriously by Wikipedia.  I was seriously disappointed when I called up this article as a reference.  It was neither useful nor useable... Who is working on this article?  Please sign-in  and "sign" your work.  Thanks,  Emyth 14:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range and Scope 

message: Wikipedia:Copyright violations.  I removed the section, Persinger wins TVO's 2007 Big Ideas' Best Lecturer Competition because it was entirely copied from the article  Laurentian University's Michael Persinger wins TVO's 2007 Big Ideas' Best Lecturer Competition.  --George100 (talk) 07:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: TVO Award section removed

message: Dr. Persinger's God Helmet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPOTaUyvA0  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooolway (talk • contribs) 22:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can somebody add this to reference? 

message: One editor added a NPOV tag, adding "way too positive about the fringe research".  I have changed references to 'reported' (referring to the fact that Persinger has published this material).  This should bring the section back into neutrality.  I ask that the NPOV tag be removed or that the comments considered biased should be denoted clearly enough for another editor to work on them and bring the page to neutrality. --Hamlet 2010a 03:47, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of a 'biased' tag and response to same. 

message: Considering that Dr. Persinger is actually referred to as a scientific skeptic in various sources I've seen (generally quoted as such, by James Randi, but I don't remember precisely where, hence why I'm not posting them here), I am a bit concerned about Persinger having published papers in favour of telepathy and remote viewing. My question is, is there any criticism out there of Dr. Persinger's parapsychological papers, and if so, could someone point me in the way of those sources? As a skeptic myself, I'm a bit concerned that during a google search, I couldn't find any peer-reviewed criticism of his papers. I'm hoping I just typed in the wrong key words and that someone here might be able to do better.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.117.41 (talk) 21:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As a matter of fact, I'm surprised as well. There should have been attempts at replication or at debunking for something this big, but I found none.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.227.66.211 (talk) 13:04, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Persinger's work with his "God helmet" has not been independently replicated, in fact this section links to the only attempt by an independent laboratory to replicate his work - it failed, although Persinger disputes the findings (of course). His tectonic strain theory has also failed at least one attempt to test it. I think that career "sceptics" like Randi aren't sceptical enough when somebody reinforces their pre-existing belief that the paranormal is an illusion of the brain; or they are blinded by Persinger's "science talk" and don't know enough about neuroscience to effectively reject it. Famousdog (talk) 13:22, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

text: I am not familiar with this aspect of his research, but my reading of the God helmet and tectonic strain literature has not exactly filled me with confidence in his scientific rigour. Famousdog (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Persinger's arguments against the Granqvist replication are nit-picky in the extreme - if these are real effects they should be demonstrable by other labs with other slightly different setups. If you need to have exactly the right setup and be located in Sudbury Ontario for an experiment to work, then the "effects" are hardly worth discussing. Granvist et al also make some cogent arguments that, even if the replication had been perfect, the God helmet cannot be having any meaningful effect on the brain. Or if these "weak complex" magnetic fields are having an effect on the brain, then we should see Jesus and all the host of Heaven whenever we pass a television, use a phone, or sneeze. Famousdog (talk) 08:48, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

text: That website seems to be pro-Persinger propoganda either by him or a collaborator and merely reiterates Persinger's side of the discussion in the scholarly press. The spectragrams given by Murphy and Persinger on that webpage are virtually indistinguishable from each other, and I can't imagine such a small difference would have any kind of meaningful effect. If an experimental protocal is that sensitive to noise, you have to question whether you are actually looking at "real" effects. In terms of magentic field intensity, let me give you some context: The God Helmet has a field strength of around 5 microTesla. A fridge magnet would be roughly 5 milliTesla. In other words 1000x stronger! By contrast transcranial magnetic stimulation has field strengths of about 1-2 Tesla. More than adequate to cause neurons to fire in the cortex. And yes, McFadden's theory is so far out of mainstream that it's no grounds for accepting or rejecting anything. Famousdog (talk) 12:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism of Dr. Persinger's parapsychological work

message: In the sec'n on "tectonic strain theory", there is included a pgph about Paul Devereaux, apparently a UK quasi-paranormal (pseudo-)researcher who ascribes consciousness to the "plasma-phase" products of geologic triboluminesence.  Despite the superficial similarity of the attempts to explain UFO sightings, it seems inappropriate for this pgph to be included in this sec'n, especially given that Mr Devereux apparently has his own wikipaedia page!  I suggest the offending pgph be removed such that Dr Persinger's page include information about his odd theories and no other man's.  72.179.38.56 (talk) 19:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Devereaux? 

message: Persinger has published a couple of articles claiming a link between the earths magnetic field and global warming. Although I am no expert, it seems that this link has been debunked several times, and it may be interesting to add a section on this, to illustrate how Persinger operates. I did this, but that was edited out, so perhaps someone more invested in the topic can contribute?
here are some of the papers on climate change
International Journal of Geosciences, 2015, 6, 846-852
Published Online August 2015 in SciRes. 
http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/ijg.2015.68068
How to cite this paper: Vares, D.A.E. and Persinger, M.A. (2015) Earth’s Diminishing Magnetic Dipole Moment Is Driving
Global Carbon Dioxide Levels and Global Warming. International Journal of Geosciences, 6, 846-852.
http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/ijg.2015.68068
Earth’s Diminishing Magnetic Dipole
Moment is Driving Global Carbon Dioxide
Levels and Global Warming
David A. E. Vares1,2, Michael A. Persinger1,2,3
[11] Persinger, M.A. (2009) The Possible Role of Dynamic Pressure From the Interplanetary Magnetic Field on Global
Warming. International Journal of Physical Sciences, 4, 55-46.
[12] Persinger, M.A. (2010) The Cosmology of Climate Change: Interconnections Between Increased Global Temperature,
Carbon Dioxide and Geomagnetic Activity. Journal of Cosmology, 8, 1957-1969.
[13] Gang, N. and Persinger, M.A. (2012) Correlations between Ocean Water Temperature and Related Parameters from the
Victoria Experimental Network under the Sea (VENUS) and Geomagnetic Activity: Implications for Climate Change.
International Journal of Physical Sciences, 7, 660-663.
---- CL  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.227.134 (talk) 14:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  climate change 

message: Dr. Persinger's death was just announced by Laurentian University in an email to students and staff. Not sure how to provide it as proof, there doesn't seem to be any news online about it yet. Edit: here's the cbc about it https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/michael-persinger-obit-1.4786334 goshpunk (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: I do not know how to fix this but the cite number 13 is a link to a page that does not exists/
Hosami (talk) 13:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  the citation number 13 is a broken link.  

message: Interview on "Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack" Episode 13 - Electric Lady 172.74.82.61 (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Reference