Talk:Nitrium

message: I did not create this article.  Nor do I have a lot of interest in Star Trek, though I have seen a number of episodes.  This article has promise.  If someone sees an episode, they might not know whether nitrium is real or fiction.  This article will help to clarify.  Among the many articles proposed for deletion, this is one of the articles with the most potential.VK35 20:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements 

message: This is a disambiguation in progress.  I will be writing an article on the real nitrium today and tomorrow (and submit it tomorrow probably).  The Star Trek article will be moved to Nitrium (Star Trek) where it may be deleted or kept or redirected.VK35 21:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: real life nitrium

message: On this date, this article significantly changed from Nitrium, a Star Trek material, to the real life nitrium.  The edit history of before 13 May 2007 reflects the Star Trek contents.  See Cost of Living (TNG episode) for the Star Trek reference of nitrium.VK35 21:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major change in article 13 May 2007

message: The new article is a mere stub.  I plan to add to it daily or almost daily.  I have done this to another article showing that I can do what I pledge.VK35 22:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Start of nitrium, real life material talk page

message: After spending nearly an hour looking for a scientific definition of "nitrium", I am unconvinced that this exists in the real world. There is natrium, the "technical" name for sodium (hence Na). There is also nitrum, the latinized name for niter. Even the farlang.com source, if you begin with the first page of the chapter, is obviously referring to niter/nitrum, except for some apparent scanning errors. One source even indicates it may be a synonym for fuller's earth. Nitrium seems to be the word used in German to mean sodium. But it does not seem to be, in English, something itself. The Japanese source is, I believe, another case where it simply means sodium.--Dhartung | Talk 09:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am finding that this is potentially a very confusing subject.  I am making progress in separating this confusion.  That's added reason for me to work on this.  If I make sense of the confusion, maybe someone will benefit by just reading it and end the confusion for them!VK35 19:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe Dhartung is correct.  The Nitrium described as "It can ion found in metallic compounds and in tap water. It is found in salt water and in the human body." is almost certainly sodium.  The other instances are foreign langauge names.  I think we should redirect the page.  Acegikmo1 18:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All the work for redirects complete, except one.  Will place AfD for redirect of Nitrium article to the Nitrium disambiguation page.  I am not removing all of the article now because some people may have an opinion against this (don't really think so, but who knows) and just haven't edited this page.VK35 21:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confidence is low 

message: A few things worth thinking about:
*A merge with a mess of a disambiguation page leads to a bigger mess. The issue with the Star Trek episode article seems to have been take care of; the rest is redundant:
**any redirects should not be mentioned on a disamb page, and neither target page has the word "nitrium" in it. Thus both lines on the DAB page should be removed. This leaves only a red link, apparently to tie it in to either a proposed article (which, by the way, would be misnamed per WP:NAME) or the nitrium article. Thus no disambiguation page is needed.
*The nitrium article is not presented in the form of an encyclopedia article - the subheadings seem more likely to be from some editor's sandbox. These must go. As it appears now, it looks like either
**a second (redundant) disambiguation page (note that there is not a single definition here), or
**a possible entry for Wiktionary (but, again, there are no specific definitions here!), which would mean that this should be Transwikied to Wiktionary instead of being left here.
*What is the intent of this article? I'm not sure what it is, but clearly a merge with the DAB article would be worthwhile, for there is nothing in Wikipedia that indicates the need for the existence of the disambiguation page. If the nitrium article can't be restructured so that it has some actual substance, both articles should be deleted. 147.70.242.40 19:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any good reason why this article can't simply redirect to Cost of Living (Star Trek: The Next Generation)? Neither of the other disambiguation links are particularly relevant (as mentioned above, the word 'nitrium' features on neither of them), and the Star Trek use is what most people finding this page will be looking for anyway. The redirect page could still be categorised in Category:Star Trek materials. Terraxos 21:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmmmmmmm.... 

message: I was thinking about this above, and: no, there is no good reason. There's only one relevant and notable link from this 'disambiguation page', so it should just redirect there. And now it does! Terraxos 01:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirected to [[Cost of Living (Star Trek: The Next Generation)]]