Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/Archive 4

message: There are currently two competing styles for naming counties. Please vote for the one you prefer, or suggest an alternative. -- ran (talk) 01:12, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
Type   	char.	Normal                                                                                                                                                                 	Disambiguate                      	Disambiguate
Type   	char.	Normal                                                                                                                                                                 	by location                       	by type
Style A	1    	Panxian 盘县                                                                                                                                               	Shexian, Anhui 歙县   	no example yet
Style A	1    	Panxian 盘县                                                                                                                                               	Shexian, Hebei 涉县   	no example yet
Style A	>1   	Fugou 扶沟县Dachang 大厂回族自治县                                                                         	no example yet                    	Poyang County 鄱阳县
Style A	>1   	Fugou 扶沟县Dachang 大厂回族自治县                                                                         	no example yet                    	Lake Poyang 鄱阳湖
Style B	1    	Pan County 盘县                                                                                                                                            	She County, Anhui 歙县	no example yet
Style B	1    	Pan County 盘县                                                                                                                                            	She County, Hebei 涉县	no example yet
Style B	>1   	Fugou County 扶沟县Dachang Hui Autonomous County 大厂回族自治县ROC: Hsinchu County 新竹縣	no example yet                    	Poyang County 鄱阳县
Style B	>1   	Fugou County 扶沟县Dachang Hui Autonomous County 大厂回族自治县ROC: Hsinchu County 新竹縣	no example yet                    	Lake Poyang 鄱阳湖
Style A is the style that is currently used (more or less) by provinces, autonomous regions, and cities of all levels (municipalities, prefecture-level, and county-level). In Chinese, these are 省、自治区、直辖市、地级市、县级市.
Style B is the style that is currently used (more or less) by counties and cities in Taiwan, prefectures, autonomous prefectures, leagues and banners, county-level districts, towns, townships, and so forth. In Chinese, these are 臺灣各縣市、地区、自治州、盟旗、市辖区、镇、乡.
Basically, county-level cities (县级市) go into Style A; county-level districts (市辖区) and banners (旗) go into Style B; so counties are where these two camps meet. (County-level "cities" really aren't that different from counties despite what the names seem to suggest.) So your help is needed in deciding which of the two camps counties should go into.
There's some discussion further up on this page about this topic already; you can refer to them before voting. -- ran (talk) 01:12, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
=== Style A ===
Put your votes below.
#Oldak Quill 08:28, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  County Survey 

message: Put your votes below.
#Oldak Quill 08:28, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style A 

message: Put your votes below.
#I don't see any reason to use Chinese for this. - Nat Krause 13:03, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style B 

message: Copy and paste from what I posted at  Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#The China-Taiwan mess : 
Just a little bit of information. For people who are interested to know why it was so controversial about all these titles, you can read the following articles or sections and get some clues: Republic of China, Political status of Taiwan, Taiwan Province, Quemoy, Matsu Islands, Lienchiang, Taiping, People's Republic of China, Mainland China, Taiwan (as an island),  Political divisions of China#Disputed province, Legal status of Taiwan, History of Taiwan, History of the Republic of China, Chinese civil war, Taiwan under Dutch rule, Administrative divisions of the Republic of China#Claims over mainland China and Mongolia, Template:WTO, Foreign relations of the Republic of China, UN General Assembly Resolution 2758, Taiwan Relations Act, China and the United Nations, Chinese Taipei, Chinese Taipei#Other references to Taiwan, China Airlines and Pratas Islands  — Instantnood 09:42 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
Fukien Province  — Instantnood 18:51 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
I guess if one doesn't know about the background of the ROC and Taiwan, she/he can hardly follow the arguments in this discussions.  — Instantnood 18:22 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)
:As a participant in this debate, I am prepared to read through your wodge of articles. They should not, however, be required reading for readers who want to use Wikipedia to look up casually something in Taiwan. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 18:38, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem arises in the sense that not all participants of this "Debate", as you call it, know the background sufficient enough. Penwhale 18:47, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Basics for the Taiwan Vs. ROC dispute

message: Is it time to reach a solution? Shall we go on a poll?  — Instantnood 23:06, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)
*As the one who initiated the discussion, I support the moves.  — Instantnood 17:35, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
*I support them too. WhisperToMe 04:24, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution