Talk:Japanese nationality law

message: I'm proposing the stub History of Japanese nationality be merged into Japanese nationality law.
I know NOTHING about the topic, but found History of Japanese nationality being constantly vandalised (for some unknown reason). I'll give it a week, and then I'll stick the single paragraph somewhere if no one else either objects or does it themselves. T L Miles 22:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: I am working on this page as an assignment for a class.  I have modified it considerably since you suggested that it be merged, I hope it is now clear that its content is distinct from other pages on related topics.  I will be improving it and adding content and references in the next few weeks.  Sorry about the vandalism.  My roommate...
Rebalex 15:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant, Rebalex! I'm going to recind my argument for a Merge and remove the tags.  Clearly the other article is on current law, and this history goes back to Medieval Japan. T L Miles 13:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: response to merge proposal

message: The section on renunciation of citizenship needs major work to become fully intelligible. The sentence "For example, for the sake of partaking in the JET Program, one goes to Japan as a Canadian citizen, then, returns to Japan as a Japanese." in particular seems contradictory and hard to understand in context.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.130.169.241 (talk) 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Comprehensibility

message: I believe Japanese naturalization should be merged into this article as the information is similar to this article. Dwanyewest (talk) 21:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is uncontroversial and can be done easily, so it is done. WTF? (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Merger proposal 

message: We should remove or change the sentence "Japan does not allow dual citizenship except ...", since it does not make sense. A country can only "allow" or "not allow" an action. Dual nationality is not an action, it's a description of a state of being, that comes about as a result of multiple countries determining a person to be their national; it's like saying, "Japan does not allow Oscar winners."
Who has a country's nationality is solely determined by that country. So Japan has no say on who has any other country's nationality; it only has a say in who has its nationality. So saying "anyone who willingly applies and obtains foreign citizenship automatically forfeits Japanese citizenship" make sense, because it describes what happens to Japanese nationality (which Japan has control over) in response to a certain action. However, "does not allow dual nationality" does not describe anything meaningful.
The article goes on to say that, actually, it is possible to have Japanese and another nationality simultaneously -- 1) where the other citizenship is bestowed without applying, and 2) when a child has Japanese and another nationality at birth. This contradicts the statement that Japan does not allow dual nationality, and makes the discussion on dual nationality very misleading.
In fact, the whole section is pretty much useless, because the only useful statements about nationality in the "Dual nationality" section are about certain cases when you will lose Japanese nationality: 1) if you apply for and gain another nationality, and 2) if you have multiple nationalities and turn 22 without renouncing the other ones. These cases are already covered in the "Loss of citizenship" section. Any consequence on dual nationality is simply a result of those specific provisions for loss of nationality. -- 50.193.52.113 (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "does not allow dual nationality" doesn't make sense 

message: These two sentences make no sense:
The Japanese government does not have strict rules for the naturalization process, even though the documents that need to be collected for application from applicant's home country might take quite some time. Basic naturalization requirements differ from person to person regardless what country the applicant is from and depending on applicant's current status in Japan.
Does not have strict rules... even though?  Requirements differ ... regardless of what country? Huh? Jpatokal (talk) 11:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illogical sentences 

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