Talk:Organization XIII/Archive 1

message: I know that the entries about (and thus the links to) Vexen and Marluxia do not exist at the moment. It is my intention to create those articles in the near future as soon as possible (i.e., after more thorough research into all of them). Of course, if anyone else would like to go ahead and create them, they're more than welcome to do so. --KairezLightkeeper 18:40, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

message: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/2na/roxaspic.jpg
There, post that for Roxas' image in the Organization XIII section. He's not in his Org cloak, but it's a lot clearer than the image we have now.
**No, thanks. It would be way out of place in this section. Even if there would be picture of Roxas in the Kingdom Hearts II page, it would be the official render, like with every image on this page. Try finding a high-rez version of the current pic instead.Killbrain1 18:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Upload 

message: BHK's name was revealed as being "Roxas". It has an X in it just like the the other members of the order.
*Until it's actually confirmed, that's just a rumor. Geg 22:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  BHK's name 

message: If Roxas is number 13, only one of the "feminine order member", enigmatic man, and/or silver haired man can be number 1.  I think this should be removed until we have more concrete proof. 24.81.148.147 20:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Roxas being No. 13 is a spoiler--however, those who read KHII-related articles online on wikipedia should know that there will be MAJOR spoilers, right?  So is it decided that we won't edit the article to state that Roxas is #13 until more proof comes out? But it's not people from KHI who're saying that Roxas is #13, people over at AC.Net forums are saying the same thing here.  Also the feminine member is said to be Marluxia (source: KHU forums), but I'm not too sure...Mirlen 02:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number 13? 

message: It was revealed on this thread.
http://www.khforums.com/index.php?showtopic=17613
Forum threads work only if you're a member, right?
*Xemnas is silver-haired dude.  "Raixel" = Xemnas/Ansem.  This is based on the new pictures of Ansem when he was younger. (source) Mirlen 11:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xemnas 

message: The following are confirmed info from those who've played the game from various sites (KHU, KHI, GAMEFAQS, etc.)...
DiZ is the real Ansem.  That's why the credit section has him labeled like this: DiZ (Ansem). 
Xenmas is Xehanort's nobody.
Xehanort has an X in his name and is a disciple of DiZ and unlike DiZ, he does not seek to destroy Organization XIII.
:EVIDENCE: If you take out the 'X' and unscramble the word, Xehanort w/out the 'X' = NO Heart.
::HISTORY (from Suzaku): 'One of Ansem's disciples (this is from Reverse Ansem's Report #8), who basically has no memory of his past before Ansem rescued him one day. He volunteered to be the first test subject. The test awakened in him the power of Twilight.
::Eventually, the disciples betrayed Ansem, and Xehonart began to call himself Ansem due to amnesia, and as he continued to study darkness, creating the Heartless in the process. He eventually embraced darkness wholy, and became a Heartless himself.
::When Xehonart, who called himself "Ansem", became a Heartless, this spawned a Nobody, Xemnas. Ansem, now disguised as DiZ, learned that his disciples had also become Nobodies.'
Therefore, Xemnas is Xehanort's nobody and the Superior of the Organization. --Mirlen 00:16, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Whole Deal With Ansem, DiZ and Xemnas

message: I was about to add this little insight to the article, but I figured that it would probably fall under speculation or whatnot... The article itself states in the first paragraph that the “X” in the names of the Organization members is “a mark of treachery, rebellion or betrayal,” and that it “has yet to be fully explained.” Judging from the information that had been made available recently, I would venture to say that this “betrayal” refers to how the original members refused to cease their heart and darkness experiments when DiZ/Ansem told them to do so. Any thoughts? --KairezLightkeeper 06:54, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally think it should be removed for now, at least until verifiable info comes up. --Apostrophe 07:00, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The “X.” 

message: 1. DiZ is the "real Ansem", while the "Ansem" Sora fought was Xehanort, a former pupil turned Heartless/Nobody. 
3. Riku was the one who captured Roxas.
4. As in the opening scenes, Riku was the one who asked DiZ to awaken Sora.
5. By now you would have guessed. Riku has Xehanort's face.
6. Why? In order to live in the Dark World, he has to absorb the Darkness, thus assuming the form of Xehanort.
7. Therefore, the "in-between days" talk in the prologue were nothing more than DiZ and Riku conversing. And awakening Sora.
8. They placed Roxas in a computer simulated program that was a reflection of the real Twilight Town, and from there asked Namine to help awaken Sora's memories.
?. Riku gives Kairi a Keyblade, which she uses perfectly fine.
source: JL Lee from Gamefaqs.  This topic specifically.
I didn't make any chagnes to the pages, but I just wanted to keep this info up until we hear it from more players...
My reaction: I am really confused. Mirlen 07:36, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A little bit of info

message: Was there a specific place where the "status" names of the Organization was found?  Also, was the "feminine"/female order member concept removed from the game like the glowing eye unknown, or was the simply that these members are one of the existing ones?
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:The "feminine" unknown and GEU are one of the eight that appear in the game. I'm just not exactly sure which is which. --Apostrophe 06:44, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The GEU is Roxas. The female member who was reported in the SE Party trailer was just Saix that they mistook for a woman. The feminine member who appeared in that magazine scan is Xigbar. Geg 00:22, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  By the "status" names, I assume you mean the titles? You first see their titles on the gravemarkers at the very end of the game, and I believe they are also mentioned elsewhere. in the game. WtW-Suzaku 03:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just Curious 

message: I doubt anyone will think this is a big deal (especially since it'll be a pain to change everything), but the article should be written in the present tense and not the past.
For example, the article reads "while he looked like the strong silent type..." it should read looks because in regards to the story, the events are always occuring in the present each time it is reread or replayed or what not.  "He" is still alive as you describe him, despite the fact the audience is knows what happens in the story and that he's going to be defeated in the end. Basically, each time you play the game again, he's not already dead, as he dies, it's occuring in the present. Unless you are describing events that have already occured earlier in the story (like the events of Chain of Memories in the KH2 portion of Axel's article), the predominant tone of the article should be in the present tense, not the past tense. (Unsigned comment by 24.81.148.147)
* Indeed. Somebody diligent enough should perform all the necessary tense corrections, as the article is currently conflicting with Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games#Style. I understand that this article does not wear the WikiProject's tag, but nevertheless, this is video game-related, and I believe the article should conform to this style. --HeteroZellous 21:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenses 

message: The Kingdom Hearts II war seems to have spilled over to here. Protecting. Please talk it out. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 08:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  protection 

message: How are the names pronounced? Is Xemnas pronounced "Khemnas" or "Shemnas"? Is Xaldin "Khaldin" or "Shaldin"?
*Huh? It's Zemnas and Zaldin. Z sounds. Geg 22:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Pronounciations

message: Where was it said that the English spelling was Saïx?  It's most likely in the English cutscene that Maverick released, but I'm trying not to spoil myself any further. >>; urutapu 22:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's in one of the English cutscenes. Geg 22:58, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, then. urutapu 05:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Saix: "Sikes/Sykes". Like Wanda Sykes. Saïx: It's like "Eye Ex" with an S before the eye. S-Eye-Ex. Geg 04:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: The two dots is called an umlaut, I believe. It's a German symbol for pronunciation or something. Wikipedia has an article on it, naturally. My interpretation of the diference in pronuciation is that in Japanese, Saix is pronounced as one syllable, in English it's two, Sa-ix. - Zero1328 07:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, both are technically the same.  The "vowel blends" of Japanese (i.e. "ai", "ei", "oi", etc etc...) are coincidences and are properly pronounced as two syllables.  It's just was they happen to sound like that when pronounced quickly.  For example, "ai" sounds like "eye" but is "ah-ee," respectively. urutapu 04:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saix vs. Saïx