Talk:Clément Gosselin

message: To student7,
I totally agree that we cannot put every soldier in the encyclopedia
But I would argue strongly to keep this one
How many of the 15 000 revolutionary soldiers 
sent report on the situation in quebec 
to Georges Washington and to the Congress ?
He represent 747 people in Quebec who fought on the american side
2 years Before the French enter the war, 
two years before the French entered the War 
almost 800 people in Quebec were allready in the war
Who can argue that being a regiment of quebeckers was not different ?
I will put only the following :
1st Canadian Regiment
2nd Canadian Regiment
Moses Hazen
James Livingston
Clément Gosselin
Louis-Philippe de Vaudreuil
Clément is not an ordinary soldier, he was a spy for Georges Washington
He wrote a report on the situation of Canada for the american congress in october 1778
and he is a founding member of the Cincinati Order with Steuben and Saint-Clair
No other soldier of Quebec was there at Newburg for this 
Moses Hazen was not an ordinary military Brigade, it was the Canadian with the american
Georges Washington was very much aware of the situation in Quebec
He will try 4 times to go there during the war. (1775,1778,1780,1783)
Clément Gosselin was also instrumental in recruiting for this regiment
The move into Quebec forced thousand of Hessian troop to be stationned into quebec town
Removing them from the conflict
Carleton and Haldimand will not dare to leave quebec after the scare of 1775-76
Nothing would have happen without Clément Gosselin and his recrutment effort
And they were right in the worst battle with Washington 
at Brandywine, Germantown, Saratoga, Yorktown
I wikipedia remove this article 
People will never even know that many people in Quebec 
were fighting with the american in 1775
As for notability, please notice that Canadian CBC did a program on him (see the reference)
And that he is the only soldier mentionned in Canada, a people history of the CBC
If even Canadian Television find him notable, I think wikipedia should too
Many Books were made about him and a biography 
How many other soldier can claim this much Fame ?
This soldier also knew Montcalm since he was living in Québec city in 1759
:Voting, which you blanked, is out of my hands. I'm just listening. I think people were making a fairly good case for keeping the whole thing. I believe you should restore this blanked page. Unusual to delete someone else's messages. VERY unusual to delete balloting.Student7 17:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion would be to feature the "spy" stuff in the first sentence along with the "featured on CBC" (with footnote) and CBC in brackets, I suppose. I would guess that few people would then vote to delete. Forget shortening it. He's either in or out. Might reorganize it around the spy stuff and leave the rest as a trailer. Very well written, I thought. I just didn't understand why he was notable. Student7 20:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: :Clément went in hiding from the spring of 1776 to the spring of 1777.
:Clément was taken to prison in the Autumn of 1777 and released six months later in spring 1778.
:In spring 1778 he rejoined his regiment...
:In summer of 1779 he [was] with Moses Hazen...
These are seasonal references used as time periods, and as such they are ambiguous. These would be better reworded using month names where possible. --B.d.mills 07:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Need a reference unfortunately. This needs to be resolved---Many detaila of the Regiment of Moses Hazen can be discovered by reading the Washington Letters, a compilation of all of the letters relating to Washington's life. In it you can search for word like Gosselin or Hazen to find information. One crucial part is the final general order of Washington from October 13 to October 19 1781 where each day is detailed for the final attack at Yorktown.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.139.104.49 (talk) 23:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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