Talk:Warm-blooded

message: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-warm-blooded-and-cold-blooded-animals.htm this article seems to to say slightly otherwise than the title above, but is also a citation... I do not know how valid the source is, though, so i havent added it. Im leaving the link here so others could potentialy use it.
85.24.42.113 (talk) 08:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with citations

message: the term 'warm-blooded', is scientifically out of date, and where possible should be removed from the article, i study biology as a HSC subject, and it is strictly stated in the syllabus that the term warm-blooded should not be used as it is incorrect, and does not correctly identify the type of system a nominated animal possesses, any arguments?  p(Spicypeanut 11:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This "most widely used term" problem can be easily resolved by a disambiguation page ("Warm-blooded could mean:") I recently overhauled cold-blooded in this fashion. I plan to do the same here. StevePrutz (talk) 20:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect terminology

message: # The first two sections seem to repeat each other and need to be merged. The 2nd person perspective is probably not encyclopedic, although others may disagree.
# The third section (In between cold and warm blooded) should probably be moved to a separate page accessible by both this page and the cold-blooded page
# The title should probably be modified, as should the title of cold-blooded. See Talk:Cold-blooded.
# Not sure what people think should be done about the warm vs cold-blooded sections in both articles... merge? keep separate???
Hopefully someone with more zoological knowledge than I possess can definitively edit this... Thanks! --postglock 15:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reasons for requesting rewrite

message: Hopefully this page and the cold blooded page will better complement one another now.
Jura 08:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewritten 

message: Warm blooded may not be the scientifically preferred descriptor but it is the most common term in normal usage. Archaic seems a very odd choice of words. Needs changing I think Alci12
: It certainly seems odd that the page should be listed under its "archaic" name rather than something more formal with a redirect at warm-blooded. --ToobMug 10:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaic 

message: Please please please, can the redirect be removed from Homeothermy to Warm-blooded?  As has been noted, these terms are not synonomous.  Also, I assume there is a redirect from Heterothermy to Cold-blooded?  If so, that will need to be eliminated as well.  Thanks. Tomwithanh 05:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove redirect 

message: The term homoiothermy redirects to this article, but there is no mention of the term anywhere in the body of the article.  Either the term should be written into the article, or the redirect should be changed or eliminated.  This becomes a bit more significant today because Archaeopteryx is today's featured article on the front page, and the article brief uses and links the word homoiothermy.  —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 12:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homoiothermy 

message: this is in the article, and I'm looking for a reference or citation.  I've never tried finding a citation for a nature article.  Is this even true?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.41.151.165 (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''in winter many small birds lose one third of their body weight overnight.'' 

message: The "proposed split" banner has been on the article since 6 Feb 2009, and no-one's responded. I'm removing it. --Philcha (talk) 05:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed split

message: Should this article include something about mammals like mole-rats that need to stay warm but do not have mechanisms to self-regulate? Musanim (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What about mammals that can't self-regulate?

message: Surely warmblooded means burning calories specifically in order to keep the body temperature stable, whilst homeothermic means keeping the body temperature stable, but does not specify how it's kept stable.
Wheras cold-blooded means /not/ burning calories specifically to reglate temperature, but this does not mean the animal is ectothermic - they may produce heat by other means or they could not need to regulate their temperature becuase they are gigantothermic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.2.150.199 (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Homeothermic VS warm blooded poikilothermic vs cold blooded

message: I've noticed that people as early as 2006 have commented on this, but this is a mess.  Warm-blooded is colloquial term that incorporates some aspects of homeothermy and some aspects of endothermy.  I'm going to begin a process in which endotherm, ectotherm, homeotherm, and poikilotherm all have their own pages and this will probably be deleted. Lepidoptera (talk) 21:49, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete restructuring commences

message: Regarding: the only known homeotherms are the mammals, the birds and three species of fish, the opah, tuna, and mackerel sharks;  
Where is the evidence for this statement?  
The Research article states the Opah is endothermic not homeothermic http://www.sciencemag.org/content/348/6236/786
per http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2015/05/14/meet-the-comical-opah-the-only-truly-warm-blooded-fish/
"A small number of them(fish) can warm specific parts of their bodies. Swordfish, marlins, and sailfish, can temporarily heat their eyes and brains, sharpening their vision when pursuing prey. Tuna and some sharks, including the mako and great white, can do the same with their swimming muscles, going into turbo mode when they need to. But none of these animals can heat their entire bodies. Their hearts and other vital organs stay at ambient temperature, so while they can hunt in deep, cold waters, they must regularly return to the surface to warm their innards."
Jcardazzi (talk) 00:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  'three species of fish, the opah, tuna, and mackerel sharks''' homeotherms ????'''  

message: The article seems very thin on the evolutionary reasons why mammals and birds are warm-blooded, which (as it happens) is what I came to the article to find out.  It cites a recent theory that warm-bloodedness protects against fungal infection, but that is speculative, and it doesn't explain why it is worth while for mammals and birds to pay the massive cost (in extra nutritional requirements), but not for reptiles, amphibian, etc.  Presumably there *is* some large advantage, as mammals and birds outcompete reptiles and amphibia in most environments, with hot deserts maybe the only exception.  Even in the sea, mammals are the top predators, though fish presumably have much greater total biomass.  I guess that the ability to be active in a wide range of temperatures must be a large part of the answer, but I was hoping to see some discussion and references on the issue.109.149.2.91 (talk) 21:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selective advantages? 

message: Searching in Wikipedia for "Hot Blooded" brings one directly here via a redirect page.
There is also a song titled "Hot Blooded" by the band Foreigner, but there is no way to search for it directly.  The song does have a page, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Blooded.  (I found it by going through the band's page, which has a link.)
There ought to be a way for people to search for and get to the song's page directly, given that this really is the name of the song.
But this kind of navigation and redirect and adding of pages is beyond my editing capabilities.  Nor should I make that kind of decision -- I'm not sure how it *should* be.
By the way, the song's page does have the proper "About" links at the top:  
I would suggest either (1) the search term takes people directly to the song's page, where users can redirect themselves from the top, or (2) this, the biological term's page, should give users a capability of clicking to the song's page.  It's obviously up to the editors which is more in keeping with Wikipedia's rules.
(One last quirk.  If one types "Hot blooded" into the search bar, the drop-down list of results includes "Hot blooded" which brings one here, and "Hot Blooded" which brings one to the song.  That's a little subtle.  Maybe the song link should say "Hot Blooded (song)"?
Magnabonzo (talk) 20:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hot Blooded" leads directly here, there's no way to search for the song