Talk:French petitions against age of consent laws

message: I just fixed an edit someone had made of one of Foucault's quotes, wherein they changed "child" to "teen." Foucault stated child. I can only guess at the political motivations behind this. In any case, it appears much of this page has been altered to make the events described seem more compatible with contemporary beliefs and taboos. As a newer Wikipedia user, I am not sure how to remedy this. If someone else could, it would be appreciated.
Epistemologicalbiker (talk) 07:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a 'Political POV' warning tag to the article for the above reason. Epistemologicalbiker (talk) 21:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done my best to restore the parts of the page which were edited in this way to what they were formerly, at points cleaning up wording and phrasing as well. It is possible that some bias remains which I have missed, but I have removed the 'Political POV' warning tag now. Epistemologicalbiker (talk) 23:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Revisionism 

message: Can we clarify whether any of the famous names who signed the 1977 letter also signed the 1979 letter? At the moment, the page is a little passively misleading: the celebs' endorsement of the moderately teen-permissive language of the first letter can be read as extending to the extremely pro-pedophilia language of the second letter. To avoid such confusion, I'd like a statement that the folks on the long list did not sign the second (or if some did, then say who those ones were). Sorry, I realize a complete list of signatures for the second letter doesn't appear on the source page.
Also, who actually wrote thee letters?
DanB DanD 18:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First vs second letter signatories

message: It think it might be an error to include the names of  Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir, Roland Barthes, Alain Robbe-Grillet and Philippe Sollers for the petition.  They did sign the letter to Le Monde in January 1977, but I can't find any evidence that they signed the petition to the parliament later that year.  I think that the error probably comes from the website denistouret.net (http://www.denistouret.net/constit/Cohn-Bendit.html ).  The website cites an article from the newspaper Libération which seems to have misread an article that appeared in the magazine L'Express (Jacqueline Remy, “Libération sexuelle: Le devoir d’inventaire,” L’Express, no. 2591, 01/03/2001, page 80-82).  The article in L'Express talked about both the January 1977 letter and the petition later that year and somehow it seems that the two got confused.  For example, the website quotes Sollers as saying "Il y avait tellement de pétitions. On signait presque automatiquement," but here Sollers was talking about the January letter and NOT the petition.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scotteaux (talk • contribs) 17:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: error in the list of names on the petition

message: the article form L'express is disponible there:
http://www.lexpress.fr/informations/le-devoir-d-inventaire_641580.html--Domics (talk) 09:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  source 

message: I've removed this phrase from the article recently as there has not been "statutory rape" clause in France until 2021.
:  (The New York Times)
See, for example, the above article from January 2020. I believe this is probably the result of a poor translation (the whole article seems to be the result of multiple poor translations). ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 04:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYI on the term "statutory rape" 

message: Did Guérin sign the 1979 petition? None of the sources for that section mention his name at all as far as I can tell. Zerothenerd (talk) 11:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging @Vanjagenije, who made the addition here. I'm confused as well, this is not supported by the source and in the case of Catherine Millet, is possibly an extreme BLP violation. The only people mentioned in the Express article are Pascal Bruckner, Georges Moustaki, and Christiane Rochefort. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 14:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi! It seams that I translated form French Wikipedia without citing the source. Anyway, the original Le Monde article is here. Unfortunately, I can't see the whole article without subscribing, but Guérin's name is visible. The whole list of names can also be fount here. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Guérin