Talk:Bella ciao

message: I was about to revert the And....
My Italian is hmmmm.... not serious never learned at school...;
The translation I found on the web was worse than those I pasted....
There is also some work to do about uppercase.
Ericd 22:38, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I didn't see this until now, so I placed the explanation to "and" in the summary. The traslation now is OK, I think. Some minor poetical twist is lost, but it's difficult to give the same effect in English.
"Bury me up in the moutain" is ok, actually it's
"And bury me up in the mountain"
 :-) At18 22:53, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled (2003)

message: Every time I've heard this song in English (Chumbawamba and Leslie Fish versions mostly, I guess), the "O, Bella ciao, bella ciao..." lines are still sung in Italian, and it sounds fine that way, so I'd propose leaving it that way in the English translation in the article. Phr (talk) 04:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chorus in english translation 

message: I came to the page and was surprised to see that it was severely truncated, supposedly because of copyright violations. Does anyone know the specifics? were it the lyrics? Some of the analysis about various versions of it from around the world seemed worthy and original. I don't think that was in violation. 75.175.15.126 (talk) 04:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyright snip? 

message: Does it really make sense to put all the translations in this page?  This is the English wiki.  There should be the original version, the English version, possibly other languages when those versions have strong relevance, and basta.  The other language translations should be on other language wikis. MattBan (talk) 07:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations

message: I have always thought correct "Ciao" translation for this song is "Hello", as in Italian language you can use "Ciao" either for "Hello" or for "Goodbye". --79.56.115.103 (talk) 11:14, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ciao" -> "Goodbye" / "bye" 

message: I am struck by the similarity of the melody of Bella Ciao to that of "Farewll of Slawianka" by Vasily Agapkin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_of_Slavianka
I was wondering if anyone knows more about this potential relationship between the two songs.
213.168.110.222 (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship of "Bella Ciao" to "Farewell of Slavianka" ?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The lyrics of the "partisan" version are not PD. See here, here, here, and here. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 08:42, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. See . --Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 16:41, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partisan version - lyrics - PD 

message: I've been trying to update the page to mention the relationship of the melody to the 3rd movement (Rondo) of Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique.  There's no denying the melodies are very similar, and most people who study music would agree.  Maybe there's some irony in the fact that the music originated in Germany, and was later used in the Italian resistance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.80.72.64 (talk) 19:46, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: We need WP:Reliable sources to link the connection. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who keeps denying the connection to Beethoven? 

message: Why the first sentence is highlighted in Yellow Saifullah.vguj (talk) 15:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 15:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: See: https://9to5google.com/2020/06/03/google-search-highlight-website-content/ Opencooper (talk) 19:19, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Sentence 

message: More a note to self to find primary sources describing Generali’s ads in Vietnam all being rewritings of Bella Ciao (but to be about social stuff) --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 10:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  International versions - vietnamese 

message: I'm new here, and this is my first attempt at creating a talk page, but let me illustrate my problem. It's bad enough that the first result when you google Bella Ciao is the casa de papel remix, but now i'm seeing that not even the wikipedia article about it features the correct information? And I can't even attempt to correct it? What you need to understand is that this is a current, and significant song, and it's meaning isn't in the past. It's not a song about rice fields. you can include the other meaning, even though it's insignificant, but when somebody comes across this page they're going to leave with the impression that it's about "harsh working conditions". Wikipedia should be about furthering knowledge, at least that's why I'm trying to edit. I don't know, I probably did this wrong. Ligusterweg (talk) 17:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for bringing this to the talk page. You need WP:Reliable sources to makes changes to Wikipedia. The current sources indicate the song originated by women in the rice fields, then adapted for use during WWII in the resistance against the fascists. WP:SALORDER describes that older events should be described first. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  are you kidding me? 

message: What percentage of the versions have a tempo change (from initially melancholic to eventually raucous) and what was the origin of that? Back ache (talk) 11:24, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tempo change 

message: The Italian title La vera storia di “”Bella ciao”, che non venne mai cantata nella Resistenza is in the citation but shouldn't appear in the text as well rather than only its translation?
The article's author here and in the WP Italian article appears as Luigi Morrone which is immediately above the Corriere della Sera article's text but if Morrone is the author why is Dino Messina's name between the article's title and his? Mcljlm (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corriere della Sera article 

message: "plenty of clandestine workers ready to compromise even further the already low wages just to get work"
This is a POV characterization of wage competition. All workers wanted work. 2A02:1210:2642:4A00:30DB:25CE:8AA7:2528 (talk) 06:31, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slanted point of view 

message: Will someone agree?  It's so obvious!!! 2607:FEA8:57DD:D400:2DC5:F750:13CD:BB82 (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bella Ciao to me means "sweet surrender"..or "I am giving up"