Talk:Router (computing)

message: Some of the material in the beginning of the Applications section can be merged into the Forwarding section. I plan to get back to this but it is no problem if someone else gets to it first. ~Kvng (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forwarding 

message: The boxes in our homes and small businesses do not fit the traditional definition of a router.
They simply forward information from our local networks to the ISP.  It is most correct to say they are packet forwarders.  They do not connect networks to networks, just a network to a single IP address at the ISP.
162.196.138.163 (talk) 11:08, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The usual home router "box" you are referring to integrates router, (often) DSL modem or ONT, switch, and wi-fi access point. For IPv4, they usually NAT but that doesn't make them any less routers. --Zac67 (talk) 11:53, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  What kind of routing do they do then? They just act as a gateway, which I don't really think is routing, or is it? TheUnnamedNewbie (talk) 15:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Routing is forwarding between different IP networks (e.g. your local network and the ISP access network). Devices are called routers or gateways interchangingly. --Zac67 (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

text: When we send a document from our computer to our printer to be printed, our home router is acting as a router.  The printer and computer both have different IP addresses and the computer sends packets of data to the router, which forwards them to the printer.  Also when a web page is downloaded from the Internet, our home router has to route the packets to the IP address of the correct device on our home network.    My home Wifi network currently has 5 cell phones, 3 laptops, 2 printers, a WII, 2 Firesticks, and an Alexa registered.  Modern home modem/routers do a good deal of routing. --ChetvornoTALK 16:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not usually. Your printer and your computer are commonly in the very same IP network (subnet) and don't use a router to communicate. They're connected by a switch (forwarding by MAC address), often integrated within the home router (or a repeater hub, repeating everything). Even if one node is on Wi-Fi and the other on wired Ethernet, the home router *bridges* between them like an access point, forwarding just like a switch. --Zac67 (talk) 16:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  But, the devices in your home network are on a different subnet than the rest of the internet and so a two-port router (and NAT) in the box are in play when contacting devices and servers outside the home network. ~Kvng (talk) 14:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

text:  Exactly. --ChetvornoTALK 19:16, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The boxes in our homes are not really routers 

message: Hello!
I'm in the middle of work, but I found some possible sources for the section mentioned in this post title. I haven't read the guidelines for updating references yet, but I don't want to forget where I found some sources, so I'm making a note here.
Here are some sources for the access/core/distribution layers of the Cisco three-layer hierarchical model.
http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=2202410&seqNum=4 
https://www.mcmcse.com/cisco/guides/hierarchical_model.shtml 
Thanks!
Imperatrixmundi (talk) 23:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Access, core, and distribution" section with failed verification tags 

message: The dictionaries confirm that it is pronounced "rooter" or "rauter". I just asked a Cisco employee and she was pretty adamant about "rauter" and so was I, but the dictionaries tell a different story here. Elizium23 (talk) 00:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: But this is not a contradiction: the dictionary supports the pronunciation used by you and the Cisco employee, and it also supports the pronunciation used by other people. I'm English, but have lived somewhere else for long enough to be quite confused about it, but I think the BrE pronunciation is generally "rooter", distinguishing it from the tool for shaping wood, called a "router" (which routs). Imaginatorium (talk) 10:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

text: In the US, it's mostly a north-vs-south thing. Southerners tend to use  which includes the inhabitants of Silicon Valley and makes it more popular in the industry. Webster's Dictionary tells us it's  for the network device, but then again they're based in Massachusetts. --Zac67 (talk) 17:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Anecdote for anecdote: Working in the industry for decades in the northern US Midwest and New England, I've never heard anything but . 24.31.139.196 (talk) 21:17, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

text: I've worked internationally and in technical circles outside N. America I've heard the "rooter" pronunciation. ~Kvng (talk) 13:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

text: *  I think it's good point here. 
*Counter-proposal - as suggested multiple times in this discussion, remove pronunciation. Glendoremus (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume an uninvolved closer would say there's a consensus to remove the pronounciation. And we can go ahead and do that. I've predicted that it will be restored in some form within a year's time. I wish we could agree on a more durable solution but maybe that's not possible right now. ~Kvng (talk) 20:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dictionaries contradict common knowledge 

message: Which reliable sources should be used to cite the pronunciation of "router" in this article?
#None (status quo)
#Merriam-Webster
#Dictionary.com
#Oxford English Dictionary
#Macmillan Dictionary
#Technical documents: ???
#Other
More than one answer is encouraged. Elizium23 (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: *  I think it's good point here. 
*Counter-proposal - as suggested multiple times in this discussion, remove pronunciation. Glendoremus (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume an uninvolved closer would say there's a consensus to remove the pronounciation. And we can go ahead and do that. I've predicted that it will be restored in some form within a year's time. I wish we could agree on a more durable solution but maybe that's not possible right now. ~Kvng (talk) 20:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC

message: *  The RfC was started on June 12, 2020. I suggset to request someone un-involved to formally close it (as per WP:RFCEND, WP:CLOSE, WP:NHC). AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 15:04, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assume an uninvolved closer would say there's a consensus to remove the pronounciation. And we can go ahead and do that. I've predicted that it will be restored in some form within a year's time. I wish we could agree on a more durable solution but maybe that's not possible right now. ~Kvng (talk) 20:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: End of RFC