Talk:Waldorf Astoria New York

message: According to the discussion here: http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/gct61.html
the story about FDR's car riding the elevator may be apocryphal, though Pershing does seem to have actually ridden the elevator, with or without FDR.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.157.149 (talk) 04:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roosevelt's Automobile 

message: I'm new here so didn't want to just go ahead and un-do people's work, but where it says "An even more luxurious, virtual "hotel within a hotel" in its upper section is known as The Waldorf Towers operated by Conrad Hotels & Resorts." ... this is no longer true. Prior to the launch of the "Waldorf=Astoria" collection, there was the Waldorf-Astoria hotel operated by Hilton Hotels and the Waldorf-Towers (the hotel within a hotel) operated by Conrad Hotels (the luxury brand of Hilton). Now that Waldorf=Astoria Collection is a brand within its own right, the hotel is now branded as such (while still being operated by the parent company, Hilton Hotels Corporation) - hope that's clear ... is it OK if I edit this page? G-macscot (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conrad Towers 

message: Someone or something called "Waldorf" got its name before the Astor's. The Astors do have an article. I'd like to read about Waldorf. -DePiep 09:05, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, the article is clear about this. I rest my question. -DePiep 09:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's Waldorf? 

message: The official rendering of the hotel's name is actually Waldorf=Astoria, with an equal sign in place of a dash. The URL www.waldorfastoria.com redirects to a Hilton portal for the Waldorf=Astoria and Waldorf Towers.
I don't think Wikipedia allows pages to contain an equals sign in their title.  I created the page with the name "Waldorf-Astoria hotel" because that's how it appeared on the Wikipedia:Requested articles page.  Do you think the page should be re-named to "Waldorf Astoria hotel"?
Acegikmo1 17:21, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
:I'd call the hyphen correct. Though it looks just like an equals, I think that it's just the way hyphens are rendered in that font and not intended to be an equal sign. -- Djinn112 01:57, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)
Hmmmm. Wasn't aware of that limitation. I think the title should stay as is; I've done some Web searches, and most of the time, the hotel name is rendered with a dash, even though not technically correct. I'll make the page a little more clear in that respect.
Dale Arnett 18:05, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
::Just to be clear: it IS an equals sign, not a double hyphen. Even in the FAQ linked at the current bottom of this page, the hotel uses an equals. —Frungi 07:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "the hotel uses an equals"... in the Logo, that is a free representation of the double hyphen. --Krauss (talk) 11:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Quote from the above site: The corridor built to connect the two buildings became an enduring symbol of the combined Waldorf and Astoria hotels - it is represented by the "=" in The Waldorf=Astoria. — ēmpoor! 15:53, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see the quote told in the article. -DePiep 12:47, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced the = is part of the legal name. I believe the = is part of the logo and that the = is a convention that the hotel uses. If you check with the US Trademark Office, the trademark is for "Waldorf-Astoria" and a typed logo. There's no TM with an equals sign.  It's not unusual for companies to claim that their name is something different from their legal name. Lots of companies put capital letters in the middle of works, for example. I know I did this when I worked in marketing for some companies -- it's not illegal, because you aren't setting out to commit fraud and you're just "doing business as". --Westendgirl 06:44, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Similarly, the FedEx logo "officially" contains a forward-pointing arrow in it's design. That does not mean we need to approximate it by using "FedE→x" in our article. --Dystopos 14:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that was just an unintentional illusion created by the white space between the letters Ex? By that logic, you could also say it officially contains a spoon in the lower half of the first e. —Frungi 08:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was not unintentional. The designer, Lindon Leader, says this in an interview: "Once I decided to refine the concept of the embedded arrow, I found that, to make the arrow more legitimate and identifiable, one needed to actually reconstruct the letterforms in order to make the arrow happen." . You can see how the arrow was incorporated into the Arabic version of the logo here. --Dystopos 14:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

text: * Your reasoning should not outweigh the reasoning of other editors. Please restore the page pending the revised consensus that will, no doubt, follow your argument. --Dystopos 21:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming and Punctuation

message: Just about the cleanest public restrooms in the United States.
:"Rest"rooms? You mean rooms where people go for a rest? :P
:Or do you just mean toilets... hehe. EuroSong talk 22:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restrooms 

message: In the third paragraph of the history section, there is a rather lengthy digression about the descendents of George Boldt, the first manager-host of the Waldorf.  A Philadelphia family of hoteliers well into the twentieth century, the Boldts owned or managed the Bellevue Stratford on Broad Street in Philadelphia, but, other than George Boldt, none of them had anything to do with the Waldorf-Astoria.  I think this material, while interesting (I guess), is best deleted from this article.  It strikes me as clearly irrelevant.  Do you agree?    PeterHuntington 20:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relevance of the Boldt Family History

message: How does Hilton Hotels come into the picture? The article doesn't connect the dots between this guy named Lucius Boomer and the Hilton hotel chain. I had read in a book by Conrad Hilton (which is available in all Hilton hotel rooms, as far as I know, on top of the Gideon Bible) that Hilton had bought the Waldorf Astoria back in the fourties or fifties or something. Or at least I think I've read that in said book. Would someone check in the book next time they get to a Hilton? (and, no, I don't mean Paris Hilton) 204.52.215.13 22:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hilton Worldwide says the date was 1949. That still doesn't solve the question of how Boomer relates to Hilton, though. 204.52.215.13 22:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and this also looks interesting... 204.52.215.13 22:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hilton

message: The latest version as of 09/26/10 is almost entirely verbatim the same as text in http://boldtcastle.wordpress.com/stories/buildings/waldorf-astoria/, with some additional items added in each subheadding. Don't have time to find the editor who did this now. Someone please review the edit history and notify him or her. --Mistakefinder (talk) 08:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagerism? 

message: I propose deletion of the elevator picture from the article. It is a poorly taken picture of a tiny portion of the elevator giving little to nothing to the article. Appears to just be posted by someone who is just obsessed by elevators. I don't think anyone cares what the "indicator" looks like or who made it. Mazeau (talk) 14:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elevator picture 

message: Room prices vary from month to month, week to week, indeed day to day. Listing prices as of a certain date is highly misleading and frankly looses its relevance almost immediately. A room's price on May 1, 2014 won't necessarily be the price on May 2 or May 10 or on any other day. For this reason, I am removing the prices that are listed in the lede. If anyone objects, please voice your opinion here. I am open to others' thoughts on the matter!
ask123 (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Room prices 

message: --Rosiestep (talk) 19:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  1893 Waldorf Astoria hotel 

message: I see that this article is being GA reviewed, but I'm just wondering if maybe we can split the different, 2-3 sentence entries for each person/group of people into different paragraphs. Epicgenius (talk) 15:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the "Celebrities" section 

message: Would that be a diminished seventh chord? Without the cited source one can't be sure. Everything gets past book editors nowadays... --Wetman (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "his pince-nez glasses on a black silk chord" 

message: , what are your objections to these edits? We can have both websites displayed as official websites. However, breaking reference links to one website is generally going to break the reference itself, and then the text would no longer be supported by the source. epic genius (talk) 20:17, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official websites? 

message: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/business/dealbook/anbang-global-shopping-spree-china-mystery-ownership.html . John Vandenberg (chat) 10:56, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York Times feature about mystery Chinese owners 

message: Supposed to have lived there for decades on the 42nd floor, in a suite as big as the neighbouring US Embassy to the U.N., paid well to keep private. True? If so, who? 86.161.143.121 (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Mystery Tenant