Talk:Googoosh/Archive 1

message: Googoosh is the single most nationalistic and proud Iranian singer. She has NEVER said that she is "azari". She did say in an interview that, "I was born in Iran, I have an Iranian passport, and I speak Persian, that is why I am Iranian. She ONLY referrs to herself as being Persian.
All of her music, movies, concerts, and interviews have only been in Persian. Therefore, Googoosh is a Persian singer. Dariush4444 19:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please try and provide a source next time you make such a definitive statment. Her official website ( [] ) says "Googoosh was born Faegheh Atashin in 1951 on Sarcheshmeh Street, in an old and worn down part of Tehran, to Azerbaijani immigrant parents from the former Soviet Union.". That's on this page: []. --- Farzinf 17:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  oh and by the way. I came across this interesting youtube account. I encourage all those who know dariush4444 to check it out: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=dariush4444 -- --- Farzinf 03:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  please provide your sources. --- Farzinf 20:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: she is an iranian singer of Azeri descent. she speaks Azeri. she calls Azeris as he "hamshehri" (from the same place). she also respected most Ahmad Shamlu - whom she considered "the father of all poets, writers and intellectuals of Iran"  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koroghlu (talk • contribs) 23:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Googoosh is a Persian singer

message: AS AN ARAB, I have done extensive research on this singer named Googoosh, both through literature, live interviews and entertainment works.  Therefore, I am in a position to request that all Azeri people (those from Azerbaijan and the Azeri minority from Iran) STOP misrepresenting this singer's nationality and origin as Azeri and STOP vandalizing this page to fulfill this claim.  She may have heritage related to Azeri but to label a person based on this is illiterate.  Futhermore, to claim someone that has no physical, psychological or cultural traits of a particular nationality is scandalous.  Should this continue, I will lock this page and have vandals banned.  Please observe mannerisms of a lettered person, especially when contributing encyclopedial articles.  
(I will work on this article very soon, perhaps this will help clarify things)...NeutralWriter
: I removed a reference to Iranian wikipedia, because it is not allowed to use Wikipedia articles as reference for other Wikipedia articles. Grandmaster 10:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Hi, I was looking over the article, addressing some of the issues presented by the peacock words, and I thought, 'hey, why am I editing this article, when it doesn't really fit the format of most FA articles about musicians?' Then I realized that any changes I make to the articles wording might hurt it when we switch over to a better biography style. Here are some examples of FA articles about musicians. You don't have to know them or like them to notice the similarities in how they all look. 
I can try to hunt down some of her music to hear what she sounds like, but the fact is, I didn't grow up listening to her. Many people working on this article have. My intention to replace the format with an FA-style one is not meant as disrespect;. Just the opposite. FA articles about living musicians are hard to find, and I think that this one could be really nice, if we work together and help each other get stuff done. 
Here are some FA artcles about musicians:
* Selena
* Mariah Carey
* Celine Dion
* Alison Krauss
* Hollaback Girl (I include this Gwen Stefani song because there are audio samples. It would be awesome if we were able to find some samples of Googoosh to add to the article)  -Arcayne 09:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FA Format

message: I've removed fromthe article the various spellings of Googoosh: Gogosh, Googosh or Gougoush, as they aren't really pertinent here. However, they might better serve as disambiguation words, so that people can find the article no matter how they think it is spelled. Arcayne 11:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just created redirects for those particular spellings.  The Behnam 20:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Thanks. -Arcayne (cast a spell) 16:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate name spellings

message: I found the albums on Amazon, and supplemented them with the items found on eworld record.> There may be more that weren't released outside of Iran, so that is a consideration.
Note: A great many of these albums I found online don't have dates attached to them. If you can find verifiable release dates, please add them. -Arcayne 14:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography Listings

message: We also need Filmography listings, with year of release and English translation (as this is the English language Wikipedia). As I do not speak farsi, we need a native speaker to do this. -Arcayne (cast a spell) 16:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did an initial translation. Most of them are my own traslation right now. I will try to see if there is any official translation. ps Bita and Nazanin are girl names. Mamal is an acronym for Mohammad.(Arash the Archer 20:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why an acronym? Forgive my lack of info. Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Iran like in the film a guy whose name is Mohhamad may be called Mamal(Arash the Archer 20:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, like someone named John is Jack, or Henry is Hank? Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. But nowadaws Mamal is not used very much. Mamad is more common now. (Arash the Archer 23:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmography Listings

message: I recently removed this image from Filmography because it didn't work well with the 2 column style. I have no problem with the picture itself. This is my failing to understand how to incorporate it. format-wise.
However, I think it might be better if we can find a few album covers (or live concert pictures) to add to the Discography section, and a few film stills from her films. Thoughts?  -Arcayne 13:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This image should stay. Beacause it shows the Googooshy hair style. Maybe we should have a sparate section "Iranian Idol" (Arash the Archer 22:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said before, there isn't a problem with the pic. It just didn't fit approriately within the section. Ideally, we would have a few album covers in the discography, and a few film stills in her Filmography. The pic would be great when there is a statement and cation about its noteworthiness. Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I deleted this image and replaced it with the one Arcayne suggested to be deleted. Since that image represents Googooshy haircut.(Arash the Archer 00:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Replace deleted image

message: I deleted this additional image also. The article looked like an album. Any idea of using this image instead of the one in infobox?(Arash the Archer 02:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete another image

message: Anyone know what captions to add for those images? It would make them better for the article if we could get some context for them.  The Behnam 20:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image context 

message: I have noticed the presense of endnotes in the lead. Most good and featured articles don't have these, and so I think it might be helpful to find a new home for the citations within the article itself. I won't remove them outright, but they do need to find new homes. :) Arcayne (cast a spell) 01:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a bad Idea. The citations are there since some setences looked like peacock statements. But we can include them in better places. (Arash the Archer 15:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead Statements