Talk:List of Sinhala words of Tamil origin

message: ====comment by Bodhi====
The analyis in this article is unfortunately unsupported. It is necessary to attempt to relate each word to words that are found in old sources (e.g, inscriptions, Sigiri Griffiti for elu, etc,) and DATE the words before they are ascribed to a source language (by giving references) - there is quite a bit of work available on dating tamil words as well. In effect, much of this article, as it stands, is basically questionable. Tamil is being used as a generic name?  Does the author not distinguish between Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada words? What about Oriya words? Prakrit and Sanskrit words have independently gone into many languages. So what we have here is a dangerous, unrestrained exercise [The author may know the story of "Hampton bridge" in Chennai and how it became "Barber bridge" - a story that the linguistics people in the Tamil department at Madras University love to tell]. What about many Elu words which do not occur in South or North India, but found in SL and in ancient middle-eastern sources? 
Or does he lump all that as tamil? To correct this article will require quite a bit of effort. 
Bodhi dhana 04:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi RaveenS, I have looked at some of your edits and you seem to be one of the few natives who are impartial in Sri Lankan matters. So please don't take my above statement (which may habe been a bit harsh) as directed against you. When I have the time, I'll be happy to assist you in improving the quality of the list. Cheers, Krankman 17:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please update it as best as you can. After all this is a Stub :-)). Supposedly there are 400 loan or substratum (?) Tamil or some kind of Proto-Dravidian words in Sinhalese. So there is a lot to be done.  Thanks RaveenS 18:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that even in the scientific community there is no agreement in many of the cases. But I guess we'll be able to develop a nice list in the course of time by sticking to those cases that are unambiguous. Krankman 11:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There is a Sinhalese dictionary of Tamil words, that I have listed. It should form the bed rock of this list.RaveenS 13:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transcription and Accuracy

message: The analyis in this article is unfortunately unsupported. It is necessary to attempt to relate each word to words that are found in old sources (e.g, inscriptions, Sigiri Griffiti for elu, etc,) and DATE the words before they are ascribed to a source language (by giving references) - there is quite a bit of work available on dating tamil words as well. In effect, much of this article, as it stands, is basically questionable. Tamil is being used as a generic name?  Does the author not distinguish between Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada words? What about Oriya words? Prakrit and Sanskrit words have independently gone into many languages. So what we have here is a dangerous, unrestrained exercise [The author may know the story of "Hampton bridge" in Chennai and how it became "Barber bridge" - a story that the linguistics people in the Tamil department at Madras University love to tell]. What about many Elu words which do not occur in South or North India, but found in SL and in ancient middle-eastern sources? 
Or does he lump all that as tamil? To correct this article will require quite a bit of effort. 
Bodhi dhana 04:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi RaveenS, I have looked at some of your edits and you seem to be one of the few natives who are impartial in Sri Lankan matters. So please don't take my above statement (which may habe been a bit harsh) as directed against you. When I have the time, I'll be happy to assist you in improving the quality of the list. Cheers, Krankman 17:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please update it as best as you can. After all this is a Stub :-)). Supposedly there are 400 loan or substratum (?) Tamil or some kind of Proto-Dravidian words in Sinhalese. So there is a lot to be done.  Thanks RaveenS 18:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that even in the scientific community there is no agreement in many of the cases. But I guess we'll be able to develop a nice list in the course of time by sticking to those cases that are unambiguous. Krankman 11:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There is a Sinhalese dictionary of Tamil words, that I have listed. It should form the bed rock of this list.RaveenS 13:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: comment by Bodhi

message: (With the assistance of an Old Sinhala Grammar.. the following words)
(note, I am not 100% expert on Sinhala)
Sinhala - Tamil - English <BR/>
appochchi - appaachchi - father<BR/>
ambala - ambalam - inn, resthouse<BR/>
araliya - alari - Frangipani<BR/>
ali - aliyan - Elephant<BR/>
awari - avuri - Indigo<BR/>
angaana - angaadi - Stall<BR/>
aadayam - aadhayam -income<BR/>
aeni - aani - nail (lynch-pin)<BR/>
aembaeTTa - ambattan - barber<BR/>
ichcha - ichchai - flattery<BR/>
iyam - idam - place<BR/>
ilakka - ilakku - target<BR/>
ilakkam - ilakkam - number<BR/>
ilatti - ilaththi - dung<BR/>
:can't find the Tamil word, please assist
ilawa - izhavu - funeral<BR/>
ira - eer(u) - to saw<BR/>
iraTTa - irattai -double/even number<BR/>
iLandari - iLandhaari - youth/young man<BR/>
uDaenni - uDukkai - small drum<BR/>
udawi - udhavi - help<BR/>
ura - urinju - to suck up<BR/>
uraema - urimai - right<BR/>
uLukku - suLukku - sprain<BR/>
uuliyam - uuzhiyam - service/work<BR/>
ediri - edhiri - opposition<BR/>
ella - ellai - direction/course<BR/>
:can't find the Tamil word, please assist
ottu - otru - act of spying<BR/>
otta - otrai - odd number<BR/>
Onae - vEnum - must/want<BR/>
Thats enough for one night.
--Lee1983 12:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: comments made by Krankman 13:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks a lot! I'll put the unambiguous ones in and give the reasons why the others are not included below. Oh, and could you give me the exact title of the dictionary you have used? Cheers, Krankman 13:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, I suppose the description of the grammar ought to be in the Sinhala article. I don't have that much time, but I'll be trying to work on it. :-) Krankman 11:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

text: ) --Lee1983 09:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I've got the book here and I found the section you are citing. That's quite a list! Krankman 11:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Tamil Loan words in Sinhala 

message: I propose this list be changed to List of Sinhala words of Tamil origin ? RaveenS 14:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: Give reasons why this is an encylopedia artile not just a list of words. Describe how Sinhalese came about these words, there effect etc.RaveenS 13:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expand this article

message: I have removed komaḍu "water melon" because it is not derived from Tamil kommaṭṭi "a kind of cucumber plant" but from Sanskrit kuṣmāṇḍaka "a kind of cucumber plant" according to Geiger, Sinhalese Grammar, §70 2). The Tamil word likely is connected to the Sanskrit word, maybe it even is Dravidian, but the derivation of the Sinhala term from the Sanskrit one is 100% in accordance with established sound change laws. Krankman 16:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed word

message: The word mōḍa "foolish, ignorant", instead of deriving from Tamil mōṭi "stupidity", according to Gunasekara's "Comprehensive grammar of Sinhalese language" derives from Sanskrit mūḍha "foolish", related also to Pali mūḷaha and Elu muḷā. If confirmed, I suggest to remove it from this list. Paryeshakaya 20:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the word mōḍa, as for etimology explained above. Paryeshakaya 07:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Word mōḍa

message: There must be a cited source for this. The word "Mama" (or a variant of) is also present in Hindi, Gujarati, Kashmiri, Nepali (though in this instance it means "paternal uncle") and most likely various other languages too This link goes to a number of dictionaries for South Asian languages. This one goes to Konkani. This is Urdu's variant on the word. The Assamese word(s) for "uncle" can be found here. 
Now, please cite a reasonable source explaining how the Sinhala word (Mama) was originally taken from Tamil, and not just an Indo-Aryan word that was brought to the island and remains to this day? --Maurice45 (talk) 14:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The word "Mama" 

message: This article does not have any inline citations. People keep adding content to the article without providing any sources. Hence, I added the "No footnotes" template. JohnWiki159 (talk) 10:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of citations