Talk:Renewable energy/Archive 1

message: I have removed this section from the article. As it sounds like utter garbage to me. G-Man
Earth power
The earth is a giant spinning magnet generator with two poles, one positive and the other negative. Enormous amounts of electricity are created by the earth every second, though diffuse and spread out. Telluric currents are part of this energy. This is why lightning is attracted to the earth. The earth's magnetic field is created by this massive amount of electricity generated by the earth. There is more than enough electricity in the earth to power every household in the world for free and with no byproduct pollution. It would use up much less that 1% of the total electricity that the earth contains. And each time the earth spins, it regenerates all of its electricity. 
But how can this immense power be tapped and concentrated for home use? The first earth battery was invented by Alexander Bain in 1841. It tapped into the earth's natural electricity. In 1898, Nathan Stubblefield invents the electrolytic coil battery, a mix of an earth battery and a solenoid. From 1901 to 1917, Nicola Tesla built Wardenclyffe Tower, also called the 'Tower of Power'. It's purpose was to tap into the earth's natural electricity through a 300 foot shaft into the earth, hold, concentrate, and broadcast the electricity wireless to households all over the world for free. No one would ever have to pay electric bills again. It could also transmit radio and phone for free - no more phone bills. His inventions worked, but the project was abandoned because it was too expensive and he ran out of funding. Tesla went on to invent many household electric appliances that people take for granted, included in his 700 patents. Some wonder if a cheap portable non-wireless version of Tesla's tower could be invented for home use.
:Well it has all the trappings of garbage material, so it certainly needs to be kept out at least until it can be verified by credible sources. None of the linked articles support it. - Taxman 01:49, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
The linked articles are in Wikipedia. When you say it 'sounds like garbage to me', you are making an emotional judgement call. You shouldn't be insulting contributing authors. The part about the earth being a giant electric generator comes from the writings of Nikola Tesla, a 300+ I.Q. genius. Check out Tesla's Wikipedia page to see all the things he invented. I think you call it garbage because I'm writing it in layman's language so readers can understand it. If I wrote it in highly technical jargon, you would be less likely to call it so.
:I didn't write the comments above my indented paragraph or remove the material myself.  But as stated, until you can justify the material with credible sources, it needs to stay out.  Bring credible sources to bear here in the talk page and we would all be happy to put it back in. - Taxman 19:09, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
The credible sources are in Wikipedia under the headings: earth battery, Nathan Stubblefield, Wardenclyffe Tower, Nicola Tesla. These headings are linked to external source sites, including patents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.53.33.111 (talk)  22:48, 7 October 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed from article

message: Should the definition of Renewable include impacts on the environment? pstudier 23:32, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
:Yes and no. Uranium is not replenished, just because you get more of it does NOT mean anything is being replenished through a natural ecological process.  zen master    T  00:09, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of renewable

message: Many people feel that nuclear energy is not to be trusted due to the waste that it produces and the danger of the producing of power through this method of nuclear fission(Chernobyl).
However what alot of people do not realise that the fossil fuels on this earth do not have a long time before they run out. When they do, there must be an effiecient source of renewable energy to tap into or we will face an energy crisis.
Many feel that clean energy sources such as wind, hydroelectric or geothermal are the answer to this problem and disregard nuclear energy all together. In my opinion this would be the wrong thing to do. Wind firstly, is a very inefficient source of power as windmills generate very little energy and then none at all when the wind doesnt blow. Solar power faces the same problem and although hydroelectric and geothermal are both more efficient that these two, they still could not produce enough energy to satisfy the needs of the entire planet.
Thus, it brings us to nuclear. Nuclear fission, our current form of nuclear power, while it produces much power, the waste it produces is radioactive and comes out in large quantities, which is why most people would fear tunring to nuclear as our primary source of energy. However there is nuclear fusion. This produces infinite amounts of energy and leaves no waste, the ideal source of power. Afraid not as it is not stable enough to use as an energy source. This is why we must be trying to perfect this source of energy rather than spending time trying to use solar or wind power.   --Jkwon31 12:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuclear Fusion must be perfected before the fossil fuels run out