Talk:Thamud

message: I’m currently trying to make something useful of this article, but it’s an uphill battle.  Thought it might be worthwhile to start a list here which I’ll add to as I find sources for some of the text.
*Encyclopædia Britannica Online
*Perished Nations by Harun Yahya
:*Thamud in the Qur'an
:*Archaeological Finds about Thamud
☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 08:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: Although a few sources do seem to say that Pliny identified Hegra with the Thamud, it really doesn’t seem that clear...
::Google Book Search
::Liber VI
::Perseus Digital Library
Consequently I’ve removed the following...
:The Greek geographer Pliny's descriptions agree with this. Pliny wrote that Domatha and Hegra were the locations where Thamud resided, and this latter makes up the city of Hijr today."Hicr", Islam Ansiklopedisi: Islam Alemi, Tarihi, Cografya, Etnografya ve Bibliyografya Lugati, 
(Encyclopedia of Islam: Islamic World, History, Geography, Ethnography, and Bibliography Dictionary) Vol. 5/1, p. 475
☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 09:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hegra 

message: Thamud mentioned in...
* Assyrian annals (Tamudi) - vague, does this mean the 715 BC inscription?
* a Greek temple inscription from the northwest Hijaz of 169 AD
* a 5th-century Byzantine source
* Old North Arabian graffiti around Tayma
* as well as (arguably) an Eblaite tablet - this sounds controversial and must have a source
☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 11:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced claims (to be) removed 

message: I’ve reverted edits by 217.132.40.50 replacing the unreferenced material mentioned above.  It would be great if you could find sources for these and include more information, because they sound interesting, but until you can they don’t meet Wikipedia standards for inclusion.
☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 03:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More material without sources 

message: According to the Qur'an, Saleh was a Semite born nine generations after Noah and the flood; he is described as having been born and raised among the Thamud, a group of people who lived in an area between Palestine and the Hijaz. The Thamud are said to have lived in stone houses carved into mountains, and to have worshipped idols made from stone. Saleh tried to convince his people not to worship idols and to embrace Tawhid, but they refused, insisting that Saleh obtain a miracle; the narrative goes on to state that God responded by creating a female camel (the she-camel of God), which the Thamud were allowed to milk for sustenance, but were not allowed to harm. Despite the instruction, the Thamud slaughtered the camel, so God ordered Saleh to leave his people; when Salah had complied by leaving, there was a large thunderous sound that destroyed the Thamud.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.156.60 (talk) 04:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prophet Saleh 

message: The Prophet Saleh
The tribe of Thamud was living happily in the land of Hajar which was located
between Syria and Hejaz. They were enjoying the green gardens, big springs and
rivers, the productive land and beneficial animals of this country.
But gradually idolatry and corruption got over spread among the people of this
tribe and consequently God appointed Salih, a pious man of a noble and respectful
family in Hajar, who was quite well-known for his knowledge and wisdom in the
tribe to guide the people. Therefore, Salih addressed the whole tribe and said :
Salih : " O' my people! Worship the Almighty for he is the Most kind and there is
no god rather than him. It is He who has created you from the clay and made this
land productive for you. Ask forgiveness from Him and repent to His greatness for
He is so close to you and the only one that will respond to your prayers.
Remember the time when He made you the successor of Aad tribe and placed you on
the earth where you now build your palaces on its flat lands and form houses out
of its mountains. Remember God's favors and do not choose the way of the
corrupt."
People answered :
" O' Salih! you used to be a wise and logical man in this tribe and we thought
we could depend on your wisdom at the time of terrible events and calamities.
Now you are asking us to reject what our fathers used to worship. We shall thus
be quite dubious about what you are inviting us to. "
Salih : " You have to fear God. Accept my words and don't obey the immoderators
for they spread corruption on the earth and never try making any reformation.
People : " You're undoubtedly bewitched and have lost your wisdom and sense of
logic. You are a human being just as we are, Aren't you? What advantage or
superiority have you got over us that have made you wiser than us and enabled
you to claim that you are a prophet appointed by God. If your words are true, bring us a
sign or a miracle to prove the righteousness of your claim. "
So they asked Salih to take a woolly red she camel which was ten-months old
out of the mountain. Salih requested God to do so and in Great God's will a she camel
with those characteristic, stepped out of the rocks. At this time God sent Salih a revelation
saying :
Revelation: " Inform your tribe of the God's will which permits you to use the water
of this village alternatively with this camel, that is one day you shall use the
water and one day the camel.
So Salih said to the tribe :
Salih : " You people! This is the camel of God which shall serve as a token of
His presence and a miracle to prove the righteousness of my prophet hood and
invitation. So leave this camel on its own to graze in God's land and feed on the
grass and vegetables. Don't do it any harm for otherwise a great torment will
soon fall upon you."
However, the people didn't leave their obstinacy and revolt and revealed
their disbelief in Salih quite clearly and as strong as they could, except for a few
people who accepted his invitation and believed in him.
Finally people decided to kill the she-camel, but each time the fear of torment
prevented them from taking any action. One day, some young men who were motivated
by women of the tribe got determined to kill the camel and set out to do so. While
the camel was busy drinking water, they shot her by an arrow which hit it in the
leg and caused her to fall down. Then they drew their swords, attacked and killed
her. Salih coming to know this turned to people and said :
Salih : " Enjoy your life in your houses for three days for you will have a
terrible death after these days. This is a certain and exact promise that will
not be belied or delayed.
The people of the tribe neglected his words and went on with their revolt
and disobedience. They even decided to kill Salih but didn't find the time
for God responded to their trickery and conspiracy with His torment soon after. There
came a lightning on them which changed them to lifeless corpses in their houses. And
this was a due punishment for their oppression and revolt.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.156.60 (talk) 04:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   Thamud 

message: It’s depressing to return to this page and find more silly, poorly sourced material added. Please people, at least try to be a little encyclopaedic!
This article really needs another clean up.
☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 15:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is a nonsense magnet 

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message: Thamud was in Hijaz? That claim isn't even in the source beside that the article now contradicts itself in other sections where it says Thamud was in Yemen SharabSalam (talk) 17:37, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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