Talk:British-Israel-World Federation

message: Why aren't there two pages, one for the generic term British-Israelism and one for the specific group British-Israel-World-Federation? I think it is wrong to combine the two. If anything, the British-Israel-World-Federation should be a sub heading under British Israelism. The books on the subject treat it this way.--Cberlet 18:41, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: British Israelism and British-Israel-World Federation are two separate pages, as of today. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: During the 1990s and the very beginning of this century the Australian BIWF branch was evidently pretty close to Christian Identity and run by neo-Nazis. See this 2010 report  by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry Antisemitism Report 2010 1 October 2009 - 30 September 2010 "The British Israelites, maintain that the British people are the "lost ten tribes" of Israel and that they constitute the "Chosen People". Interpreting Christianity as a racially rather than religiously based community, Jews and non-Europeans appear as non-humans, or at best agents of Satan, in their cosmology. In addition to running religious services for its membership, it has bookshops and a mail-order service for literature and cassettes. The British-Israel World Federation bookshop in Sydney has increased stocks of Holocaust denial material and antisemitic literature and become more overtly concerned about "the Jews". The BIWF sells a large range of antisemitic material, from overtly "Identity" sources as well as from neo-Nazi and pro-Nazi groups who did not necessarily share their "religion". The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is amongst the titles sold in their book shop and by mail order." The New Zealand Herald in 2001 reported that the " Fuhrer of the Australian National Socialist Defence of Aryan People Movement" and head of the Australian KKK, David Palmer was "vice-president of the Australian branch of the London-based British Israel World Federation, a virulently anti-Semitic group in whose bookshop we meet in central Sydney." The Canadian Race Relations Foundation reported that "Christian Identity literature is distributed through groups such as the British Israel World Federation, which has branches in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto." (this information was from another publication in 1997) Another source, also 1997 but not the one I've just mentioned, says the same thing. I can't find out what actually happened but there was a lawsuit and Palmer and his clique seem to be gone. Of course we can't use that source. Doug Weller talk 16:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1990s infiltration of Nazis into the Australian branch 

message: The chief section is very biassed, in describing in some detail only a negative element that got unfortunately attached to BIWF. There is no balanced basic description. And the last paragraph "The central tenets of British Israelism have been refuted by evidence from modern genetic, linguistic, archaeological, and philological research.[5]" is simply untrue. The ref. [5] is to Legacy: a genetic history of the Jewish people, by Harry Ostrer. It is a perfectly good book in itself, but it does not remotely refute anything to do with British Israel - whose tenets regarding each issue need to be stated, before they could reasonably be declared "refuted". Unless good reason not to act is given, I shall delete this sentence and try to find someone who can write an altogether more balanced section Lucy Skywalker (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added some sources. We don't strive for balance but for what we call a "neutral point of view" - you need to read WP:NPOV carefully. We're a mainstream encyclopedia. British Israelism is WP:Fringe and our article must make that clear. Doug Weller talk 19:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correcting bias 

message: I have removed the COI tag from 2017.  With edits since then, User:Doug Weller and I now account for more than half of the contributed text, and when including User:Editor2020, account for the majority of edits.  That has certainly given enough non-CoI eyes to this to have been edited accordingly.  I think at this point, it's reasonable to remove the tag. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed Doug Weller talk 13:16, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  COI tag