Talk:Toyota AE86

message: I was going to add a comment about its popularity thanks to Initial D, but then saw there was a little bit of drama over a popular culture section. This article definitely needs a mention of Initial D, as the car has become something of an icon because of it. Objections?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashren2001 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Initial D reference

message: I've added my list of specs and year changes for North American AE86's. I'd also like to propose a name change for the article to simply "Toyota AE86" as the article deals with all AE86's, not the Japan-specific Sprinter Trueno. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Lange (talk • contribs) Feburary 17, 2006
:I agree, "Toyota AE86" would certainly fit the article better. --WEKS 19:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would recommend to get the Specs and year changes into one table. It would make this article smaller (in length) and a clearer arrangement. There could also be added the Japanese Models and some infos, if available. Ainawing 12:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Specs/Year Changes Added

message: These are the following bits from the Initial D real-life locations and popularity as they have some revelance to this aricle. These are the following that have now been moved in ....
* Three years prior to Initial D, in one of Shigeno's earlier works  Tunnel nuketara Sky Blue, the lead character Toshihiko, like Takumi, an 18 year old senior high school student also drives an AE86 Sprinter Trueno.
* Dear Boys on episode 14 the main character went on a date with a girl to go watch a movie.  They were watching Initial D Fourth Stage where Takumi's Eight-Six overtakes Tohru's Roadster over the gutter at Momiji Lane. Ironically, this 30 second clip was the prototype cel-shading used on Battlestage as 4th Stage anime hasn't been released yet to the public at the time (this series released in 2003 and Fourth Stage in 2004).
* School Rumble episode 01, where the Eight-Six is being outrunned by the three main characters of Tenma, Karasuma, and Harime Kenji riding their schoolbikes through a corner.  Rather than having the Eight-Six called "Fujiwara Tofu Ten", in School Rumble it is called "Kobayashi Tofu Ten".
* Miami Guns episode 04, of a police car that uses an Eight-Six as the chaser in Miami also with the same Panda coloured pattern.
* Capeta episode 01 shows a brief glimps of an Eight-Six. This is an example of how often an Eight-Six is referred. Also, in episode 3, while Capeta's father is working on a Hachi-Roku on the road.
* Transformers in one of their animes shows (the Energon series) an Eight-Six is seen from the distance complete with a carbon fibre hood, although it was never specified if this was a transformable autobot since it was getting a carwash from another autobot.
* The Jrock group M.O.V.E. (Yuri, Motsu, and T-Kimura) who has always done all the official opening songs and most of the closing songs for Initial D has made a "Initial D" related music video called "Freaky Planet". where T-Kimura is driving through a mountain pass, or touge, with Yuri in his passnger seat and Motsu sitting at the back. As they drive, the Eight-Six now with a carbon hood, crosses their paths repeatedly.
* Although there are more anime and manga related findings of Initial D, the Eight-Six can be found in other animes.  Such titles to name a few include Ex-Driver, Tenjou Tenge, Over Rev, Azumanga Daioh or FLCL. 
* Beck (manga)  features a scene where Saitou is rushing Koyuki to the Airport to see Maho off and Saitou is driving extremely fast on the highway and he overtakes the Initial Eight-Six.Willirennen 15:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imported bits 

message: I see --~~~~ in many places, and portions of the "pop culture" look extremely messy. I'll leave it to people more familar with the article before I go in and clean it up myself. --293.xx.xxx.xx 01:08, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I worked it over—how does it look to you now? DocWatson42 07:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Massive Cleanup Needed 

message: I think North American individual car specs shouldnt be listed as titles in the menu. Perhaps just have then as sub headings and then include things like JDM Levin/Kouki Sepcs / European Specs / Australia / UK... etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hr4lifeyo (talk • contribs) 08:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: +1 should be reworked Diskovod (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

text: i agree it should be rewritten from scratch to make the japanese models specifications the base (which they were) then show the localised versions (usa, eu, australia) Ae86forlife (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  too 'americanized' ? 

message: I read once in one issue somewhere in 1999 of Car magazine, that the man who also was behind the engineering side of the Altezza was also behind the AE86 and has a framed photo that said car in his office, what is his name as what was his role with both cars. Willirennen 19:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection between AE86 and Altezza 

message: I think this article should be edited to include all trueno/levin models (ae92,ae101,ae111 etc.) The AE86 wasnt the only model.
This page is also cluttered with insignificant information about the US model changes, i think should be removed.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.97.220.128 (talk) 04:52, August 20, 2007 (UTC) 
a new ae86 will come  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.43.146.214 (talk) 00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other trueno/levin 

message: http://www.driver.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=35419&highlight=carina
The above suggests the A60 Carina shares a significant amount of parts with the AE86. Could this suggest that the AE86 is more related to the A60 Carina (which was also still RWD) than the E80 Corolla/Sprinter? --Zilog Jones (talk) 21:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: no. It isn't anything to do with the carina. a lot of toyota models share components so it is irrelevant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ae86forlife (talk • contribs) 03:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation with A60 Carina? 

message: when adding links be courteous and add them AFTER existing links.
i have edited some additions to reflect this.  Ae86forlife (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding External Links 

message: Does this really deserve such a big section? The FT-86 is only a concept car, not a production car. It is not directly related to the AE86 except for the number in the name, being RWD in a world of FWD and fulfilling the same market niche (if it became a production car). This section also duplicates a lot of the information at Toyota FT-86 Concept and Toyota FT-86 G Sports Concept. Wouldn't a single paragraph detailing the spiritual link (ie RWD and same market niche) and with links to those 2 articles be enough?  Stepho  (talk) 05:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reintroduction by FT-86 

message: I have removed the entire external links section. All of them were fansites, forums, and non-english language sites. All sites that fit into these categories fall under the "external links normally to be avoided" category. I decided to remove the entire external links section since the "References" section has plenty of great technical links, and to discourage message forums from advertising their sites in the links section.
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11: "Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority"
If you wish to add one of the removed links back in, please make a case for why it does not fall under the normally-to-be-avoided criteria. If message board and/or non-english pages are posted to the external links or references section without justification, it will be removed.
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Bdc101 (talk) 16:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: Every now and then someone from N.America edits the article to say that the AE85 has the 4A-C engine, the AE86 has the 4A-GE and the AE88 has the 4A-GE engine with GTS trim. But these 85/86/88 codes are taken from the N.American specific VIN - which is treated as the one and only identifier by them. However, the chassis code on the build plate on the firewall in the engine bay still says AE86 for every 80 series Corolla with a 4A series engine (4A-C, 4A-GE) - just like it does for every other country outside of America. Likewise, every single 80 Series Corolla with a 3A engine is an AE85 - no AE85 (going by chassis code, not VIN) ever had a 4A engine. Can anybody think of a good way to word this. I've got both the chassis and VIN codes for the US models but it will take some time to copy it from microfiche? Japanese models are here: AE85/86 chassis codes  Stepho  (talk) 10:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  N.American Chassis code vs VIN 

message: Is it possible to convert the front wheel drive gear box to a rear wheel drive set up?
HK  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.153.2.2 (talk) 04:54, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The AE86 is already rear wheel drive. --Daniel 04:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Do you mean that you want to convert a FWD AE82 to RWD? It can be done if you want to re-engineer the chassis frame around the engine, add a transmission tunnel, re-engineer the rear suspension and a hundred other little details. Budget on $20,000 and a lot of time. More realistically - no, its too hard.  Stepho  talk  07:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  east west gearbox conversion 

message: An anon IP has been deleting the paragraph that claims Initial D was the reason for the AE86's high resale value. The supporting reference says "The direct result of this was that cars featured in Initial D, and particularly the AE86, began climbing in price".
My own theory is that the AE86 was the last of the cheap, lightweight RWD cars. Combined with a good engine that could be upgraded to a later version (eg 20-valve), it was the last of the affordable performance Toyotas. After the 86, the FWD Corollas just didn't have the same handling. The Supra, Soarer, Cressida and Crown were just too big to be decent handlers. The GT4 (All Trac) Celica with turbo and 4WD was good but cost much more than the AE86. Leaving the AE86 to fill that niche. Comments?  Stepho  talk  02:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for high resale value 

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message: Much of the article is presented without the benefit of notable sourcing.  It mostly sounds credible, but in light of the absence of sources, most of the article could legitimately be removed, by virtue of Wikipedia rules and guidelines.  Love of the AE86 and direct familiarity with its history are not enough in the context of an encylopedia.  The article needs credible, notable, bona fide sources.842U (talk) 00:44, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources