Talk:MDS America/Archive 1

message: We enrich the page with informations from the Owner Company Al Fawares S Ali Khalifa Al Sabah one of the major rebuilder of IRAK  With US government funds.
Also we expect to add next days more usefull informations about S Ali Khalifa Al Sabah a great figure of Kuwait Oil KOTC story. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.206.63.250 (talk) 06:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and WP:TALK. --Ronz 23:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The link you want is this, but it makes no mention of the subject of this article , hence my suggestion that you read the policies. --Ronz 23:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: And per WP:TALK, your comments are inappropriate here, as are many of the other comments. I know what's happening here: WP:EW and WP:COI. --Ronz 00:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Information about the owner company 

message: By typing on google the search words Al Fawares Ali khalifa al sabah case fraud oil kotc embezzing siphoning money thousands articles are available some require to paid to have the full version ! Every Wikipedia readers can make its own idea about the owner of MDSAmerica:
"Challenges Facing the Kuwaiti Leadership" (November 2001) - [ Traduire cette page ] Fraud cases amounting to $130 million against Sheikh Ali al-Khalifa al-Sabah, an ex-minister, have been of particular concern in parliament. ... www.meib.org/articles/0111_me2.htm - http://www.meib.org/articles/0111_me2.htm Tétreault, Mary Ann. Stories of Democracy: Politics and Society in Contemporary Kuwait. New York: Columbia University Press, 2000. Stories of Democracy: Chapter 8 - [ Traduire cette page ] The inclusion of `Ali al-Khalifa as a defendant in the criminal case ... Thus, the showdown over human rights activism was and continues to be embedded in ... www.ciaonet.org/book/tetreault/ch08.html -
Stories of Democracy: Chapter 4 - [ Traduire cette page ] It also fueled parliamentary criticism of the oil minister, Shaikh `Ali al-Khalifa. A member of the ruling family and protégé of the amir, Shaikh `Ali’s ... www.ciaonet.org/book/tetreault/ch04.html -
89.224.157.48 16:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is the above relevant to this discussion page or appropriate per WP:TALK? --Ronz 23:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Clean funds or not Clean funds'''

message: +The above "editor" did not include is this one: Arabtimes Kuwait published on 26th Apr 2007 about dismissing this political garbage he discusses above. I will excerpt a small piece here:
"The court has seen no evidence against Sheik Ali Al-Khalifa and no merit in the case, which dragged on for 20 years.
This case has highlighted the weakness of the government and its tendency to surrender to the Parliament. According to an Arab proverb “victory comes in one hour of patience.” In the case of Sheikh Ali Al-Khalifa it has taken over 20 years." 
As well the reader might find this interesting will notice it is also absent from the above attempt to decieve. Sh. Ali:
"Since 1991, he has held a variety of positions in several international banks and institution. His wealth of experience and successful management style has won his Excellency acclaim in the international business arena. He was nominated as one of the World's top 50 CEOs by Fortune Magazine in 1987.
Sheikh Ali Khalifa remains a very influential in the fields he previously held posts in. In US relations, Finance, Oil, and even in OPEC matters the influence of Sheikh Ali is unsurpassed."
[REMOVED UNSOURCED ATTACKS]
Even what he write above: "Thus, the showdown over human rights activism was..." so a Middle Eastern Leader comes under fire for "human riughts activism"? Sure sounds like he has "dirty funds." I mean, where would a man who as simple been previous Minister of Petroleum AND Minister of Finance of Kuwait get money to fund a business? 
As one looks at all of the postings about a leading world figure and good man, why are essential pieces of information always omitted? This information has been posted several times in the past. The editor above has even read them. In his own words (paraphrased) "Every Wikipedia readers can make its own idea about the CEO of MDS International." 65.2.150.213 22:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is the above relevant to this discussion page or appropriate per WP:TALK? --Ronz 23:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looks like clean funds to me 

message: Some of the $96 million contract to Al Fawares for the rebuilding of Iraq’s television, radio and newspaper network are in use for the US MVDDS licences purchase by MDSOperations MDSAmerica and daily expenses of the companies hold at 98% by Al Fawares ?  http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-05/12/article07.shtml
Funds are traveling step by step from another companies? http://www.fawaresholding.com/agencies.html
This are on Pentagon undercontrol?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.160.95.1 (talk) 07:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PENTAGON FUNDS

message: Thank you To advertise this lies (see back WiKi Reader) against myself on a false XINGTECH Proxy WEB site. If anybody need to know the right contact us to receive lawyers informations mds@mds.fr JeanClauduc83.206.63.250 09:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand why another forum cannot be found for these discussions. Wikipedia is obviously not the place for this. nadav 18:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: No, nothing makes sense. I just want people to stop importing their personal conflicts into this totally inappropriate domain. Wikipedia is not a battleground. nadav 22:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thank you Harold Kirpatrick

message: MDS America is owned by Al-Fawares for Construction and Development K.S.C.  and members of the management team.
== US Congres Report==  http://www.usrom.com/Countries/iraq.htm
Al Fawares, a Kuwaiti company with Iraqi ownership wins a $96 million contract for the rebuilding of Iraq’s television, radio and newspaper network 
Al Fawares will assist in expanding the newspaper into national status based on the company's experience with al-Watan in Kuwait, and also will provide security, logistics and construction services.
For--Ronz 7:22 1 May 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.224.178.100 (talk • contribs) 
:Looks like more off-topic comments that should be removed from here.  Objections? --Ronz 14:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Ronz, could you wait till the AfD closes, before archiving more stuff? Some of the views expressed, though hard to follow, are hinting at actual issues. See some other contributions at User talk:EdJohnston and User talk:Nadav1. EdJohnston 19:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. --Ronz 22:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ownership and funds