Talk:Sybian

message: There seems to be disagreement whether the link *Specs on the Sybian belongs on the External Links section of this article. Even though the link has appeared in the section for several years without dispute or disturbance, recently it has been removed. I think it provides an objective description with pros and cons of the Sybian as well as how to operate the machine. There is no solicitation to sell the machine or any other product for that matter. In fact, there has never been any advertisement on that page. It reads more like an information guide than anything else. It belongs in this article. Buttysquirrel 23:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When dealing with clear WP:COI issues, it's best to restate your previous disclosure of your conflict of interest.  In this case, the fact that you're the webmaster of toyslove.com. --Ronz 00:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: -Ronz, if you read above about 2 paragraphs, it already states that I am the webmaster of toyslove.com. In fact we had that discussion in 2005. So what of it? There are not advertisements on the page in question. I do not see how it can be regarded as spam. As such, the page belongs with this article, as it has been here for years. Buttysquirrel 01:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The policies and guidelines have changed.  What used to be allowed is in many cases not allowed.  Advertisements have nothing to do with it. --Ronz 01:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. Can you please explain which policy changed (and when) that now makes this link void? If I read the COI that you sent me correctly, simply being affiliated with a site doesn't automatically make my contributions COI under the current guidelines, otherwise the Sybian image we contributed that is currently being used in the article would be COI. I'm not trying to call into question your desire to keep things "streamlined" with this article, but I do think this is a situation where a relevant link may have inadvertently been thrown out during housecleaning. Someone (bbatsell) even mentioned that this link is fine in the WP:COIN#Sybian discussions. I do think the link should go back up. Buttysquirrel 02:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you take it up in the COIN discussion. It's your adding the link that's my concern. My concern is your adding the links to a website where you are the webmaster.  --Ronz 02:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you are referring to the "(courtesy of toyslove.com)" quote. That link is not a clickable link, and in no way does it solicit people to go there. It's simply a note of authorship. Does adding a link to a site that I am webmaster on unequivocally render that link void? Is that one of those "policies and guidelines have changed"? Again, I did not see that stipulation in the COI rules that you directed me to. I think everyone can agree that page is not spam. We've had this discussion in January of 2005 (see above), way before you came on the scene, and your arguments are either not correct or have not been supported. The link should go back up. We'll continue this in the COI discussion. Buttysquirrel 02:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Toyslove links

message: Looks like most of the content is unsourced, and the only source is the company that makes the product.  If secondary, reliable sources are not forthcoming, the article needs to be cut back to a stub. --Ronz 00:43, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are non-company sources, New Times newspapers and Penthouse magazine. Admittedly, Penthouse is not Vanity Fair, but the latter is unlikely to write about sex toys. The tone in too much like a company press release, but it can be re-written without just deleting material back to a stub.K8 fan 22:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  There many more references since I wrote the comment above. --Ronz 23:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: In the Roman empire, women are said to have deflorating themselves by sitting onto statues of Priapos (with erected cock). Is that correct or not? It then would have been the first "Sybian" (and the Antiquity discovered and invented nearly everything) --
Jan 14, 2010  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.77.248.104 (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia forbids original research, and this counts.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 02:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman defloration by statues 

message: "However, its only on-air use done to full orgasm was on 27 November 2011 on the show called "The Edge of Insanity".[6][7]"
Neither source cited mention anything about the episode. It isn't even possible for the articles cited to have mentioned an episode that aired after they were written. In addition, a two minute search on Google proves the claim totally false. There are many episodes.--65.96.7.143 (talk) 08:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsubstantiated claim removed 

message: I'm not adding this myself because as an IP editor it'll just be removed without justification, but its use on Stern has led to a number of notable individuals making use of the Sybian on the air. Aside from many notable porn stars, it is verifiable (and therefore not WP:BLP violation) to note Carmen Electra, Tila Tequila and Adrienne Curry have also ridden the Sybian on Stern's programme (verifiable by way of video archives of these appearances being circulated online). 68.146.70.177 (talk) 11:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not always just about verifiability, but also significance.  Wikipedia is not just a collection of facts.  In this case we would need an independent and reliable source to give significant coverage of these facts for them to be appropriate for inclusion in the article. SQGibbon (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be a source now, but since I don't have access to Forbes, can someone verify it actually says what our article says it does, that the Sybian became vastly more prominent after it appeared on the show? If the source doesn't actually say what we claim it does, e.g. it just mentions it appeared on the shor or was a popular item on the show, this either needs to be reworded or removed. Personally I find it to be fairly dubious claim, the Howard Stern show may be popular, but it's not that popular especially outside the US and the Sybian wasn't that obscure a device particularly after the rise of the internet. Nil Einne (talk) 11:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable users? 

message: Anyone know if Dave Lampert is connected to the Monticello Railway Museum which is located only a mile away or so.  I have no idea but I'm curious since it seems like he might be interested in mechanical type things and they did collect some sizable donations to repair the steam engine, with an all-new boiler.  I'm not sure if the answer is affirmative if it's worth including as the article is about the device not the inventor.  Just wondering myself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.41.7.5 (talk) 20:08, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection to MRM??? 

message: Add this to the see also section:
* Doc Johnson iRide Vibrating Saddle
* E.E.E., Inc. Jetaime : together with the Sybian, the most popular sit-on vibrator  
* Love Honey Rock Box
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.162.165 (talk) 13:22, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed these external links.  It might not have been your intention but you appear to be promoting those products which is against Wikipedia guidelines. SQGibbon (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: I'll just note the existence of Draft:Motorbunny here. The devices appear very similar in design and function. -- The Anome (talk) 09:39, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motorbunny 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article Venus 2000 says it is also known as Venus by Sybian so perhaps combine the 2. As a side issue... the 2 articles seem like paid for writer articles to promote Abco’s products. And neither seem to meet Wiki’s notability standards. I don’t know/don’t have time to work out how to progress a merge or recommend a delete but hopefully someone does and feels so inclined. Dakinijones (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Venus 2000 aka Venus by Sybian or delete both as non-notable? 

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message: Apparently what ever User:Gmaxwell did to crop out the Watermark does no longer work and it's back. Is this video really necessary or even useful? It is of so low a quality that it seems seriously out of place. --2003:C9:471A:3700:C81A:D4DE:4709:6B2 (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  That pixelated, twice truncated, cropped ex-pornsite advertisement 

message: The top of the article describes the Sybian as a "Sex Toy for Women". Is it not also used by some gay men? The page for dildo, for instance, doesn't describe it as a sex toy solely for women, is there some reason this page should describe the Sybian that way? HisMajestyRick (talk) 21:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  'For Women'? 

message: There's a 2007 Howard Stern video that is in part about the Sybian, and in part about Lampert, called "Sybian The Documentary". See IMDM here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0950940/ — The Anome (talk) 10:32, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source