Talk:Match Point

message: I don't know if I'm doing this properly, but here it goes.
I was reading the article on Match Point, and this line caught my attention: "The story is a fable about the role that luck plays in determining everyone's destiny." A fable is a story were animals are given human-like qualities, therefore I don't think it's suited for Match Point. I'm not 100% sure (although it's lik 99.9%), so I was kinda reluctant in editing the article. I'm not sure what word should be used to replace it either  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmafcerqueira (talk • contribs) 00:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The dictionary defines fable as "a short tale to teach a moral lesson, often with animals or inanimate objects as characters." Therefore, although anthropomorphic creatures in such stories are common, they are not a required element. Also, one could argue that the tennis ball seen at the beginning of the film is a kind of character, as it symbolises the plot's underlying meaning. --Heslopian (talk) 21:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad description

message: This article could definetly use more information such as critiques and other informations. Gryffindor 22:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs more information

message: The article mentions Crime and Punishment, but it should go into more detail about the film's allusions to the book, especially in the structure of the murders.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.235.45 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 17 January 2006
The article should mention thematic similarities to earlier films by Allen, especially Crimes and Misdemeanors.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.235.45 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 17 January 2006
I returned my comment concerning W. Somerset Maugham's 1939 story "The Facts of Life" which was made into a short film in 1948. While the movies are very different: "Match Point" being dark and Maugham's tale almost flip; --I'm certain the voice-over stating "I'd rather be lucky than good" is Allen's homage to Maugham.LarG (talk) 19:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More detail needed

message: Andy (2/19/06):  The warning label seems misplaced.  I thought the Dostoevsky allusions were valid & accurate.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.85.99 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 20 February 2006
:The template, , does not challenge the section's validity or accuracy.  It asks editors to add references for what appears to be original research.  Could you add sources to the section?  Just follow the example from the critical response section (i.e. bracket references with the  pairs).  If you or someone else is unwilling to do that, I believe the warning should be reinstated. Kayaker 11:16, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Warning label seems misplaced

message: The Subtext section clearly includes spoilers...should they really be placed after "spoilers end here"?Eric Sieck 20:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it, alhough there is a second spoiler warning (which we can keep for clarity anyway).--Patrick 23:11, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Subtext

message: I think we don't need this section anymore because there's no point of relating to this source except we passed by expectations and there may be a trivial purpose. Shall we live without it? Why or why not? How? —69.227.160.7 22:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "U.S. DVD release date" section 

message: Added a number of details in relation to the connection between the book and the film. For instance, I roughly organized the similarities into the structural similarities and the psychological similarities. 
I also added comments regarding both charachters attempts to reject traditional morality as well as a comment regarding Chris' success at this task relative to Raskolnikov. 
Azymuthca 10:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More details added.  

message: The subtext section seems like wikipedia:original research to me.. thoughts? Rhobite 00:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tagged this section as original research a while back, and now I removed it. Feel free to replace/rewrite it with sources. Rhobite 18:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: What does this line mean, exactly?  "Many internet users claims that this film Johansson's first sex scene, though the scene involves her being fondled." User:Yllosubmarine 10:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion 

message: This description of the movie is one paricular interpretation, which misses an important point.  In the only supernatural scene of the movie, Chris talks to his murder victims and expresses the pain that the actual getting away with the crime causes him.  The fact that his luck lets him gets away makes for a terrible revelation: there is no justice, no hope for justice, blind luck rules our lifes.  Thus, he loses---not wins---the match point.  The opening voice-over tells you: when the ball falls short, you lose.  Chris' ball is the ring.  It fell short (on the pavement), and Chris lost.  His getting away is a defeat.  It takes away his hope. If the ring went over and disappeared in the river, the cops wouldn't have stopped pursuing Chris as a suspect.  He would end up in jail but with hope that there is justice, some higher power maybe, a reason behind this maddness.  Sorry, there isn't. If you hoped for one, you've lost.
199.169.240.132 06:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Particular interpretation, which misses the point of Match Point 

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message: I'm amazed by the statements about Allen's 'good reviews'. In Britain it is one of Allen's most slated and trashed films - a new low. 
The Guardian calls it a 'cinematic crime" - http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/jan/31/woody-allen-vicky-christina-barcelona
and "disasterous" -  http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/feb/08/woody-allen-barcelona-review
The London Times calls it "below par" http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article3932061.ece
A more balanced write up is needed, wouldn't you agree? Spanglej (talk) 18:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to work this in now. it's worth noting that the film recieved a much worse reception in the UK than elsewhere, such as the USA or France, in part due to its failure to capture English idiom. Other English reviewers have in turn attacked those who criticised it for presenting a nice portrait of life in the cpaital. The Guardian articles you link here are, 1) not actually focused on Match Point, 2) clearly polemical and outside of mainstream opinion, 3) "cinematic crime" is a headline which puns on one of his other films, it is not an appellation for Match Point. Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 14:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: good reviews??

message: Is there a reason why there's no mention of this film being nominated for an Oscar anywhere in the article? I've added info about it to the critical response section. I'm sure there are category tags that should also be added, but I don't know how to do that. 67.133.229.226 (talk) 23:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Oscar nomination?

message: Is that a typo for vacant, because it makes no sense to me as is?
3eguoxn02 (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Vagrant sky?

message: I've re-worked this section, largely using the Goyios source, a comprehensive analysis. If someone wants to check it over, I'd be very grateful. I'm also taking out this bit since it seems to disagree with that account, if there's another source then we can consider re-including it.
:Mrs. Eastby (Margaret Tyzack) is listening to budget price Naxos CD Operatic Duets for Tenor and Baritone by Janez Lotrič and Igor Morozov (the aria "Arresta...Quali sguardi!" from Gioachino Rossini's Guglielmo Tell, then Desdemona's murder scene from Verdi's Otello) when she is shot.
Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 02:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music and use of Opera 

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