Talk:Albert Stubblebine

message: Keep up the good work Wikipedia, this sort of content is what make this cight (sic) so credible as a resource.  For those who think these people are jokers, I would like to give a first hand example.
My brother was a herdsman (managed and milked a herd of 200 cows). Mastitis is not uncommon in cows; the treatment, Antibiotics injected directly up the teat into the udder. The cow has to be milked, but the milk must be be thrown away. He was told by the tanker driver (who picked up the raw milk), that the milk was only ever tested for this type of contamination on Tuesdays. My brother being paid by performance knew not to put the milk contaminated by Antibiotics into the bulk tank, ON TUESDAYS. The moral of the tale, only buy your triple thick shakes on Wednesdays!
Gee more paranoid rubbish............
In case anyone's interested Stubblebine is the person who tried to teach US soldiers to kill by starting at an enemy, to become invisible by willing it so and suffers from both paranoia and dementia. His views on the crash into the Pentagon are at variance with reality and should be treated in the same way as his parapsychological nonsense. 
Stubblebine gave a lecture at the International Symposium on UFO Research, sponsored by the International Association for New Science, in Denver, Colorado (May 22-25, 1992). It gives a good example of Stubblebine's coherence (or lack there of) and paranoia (he often threatened to destroy the tape). Stubblebine claimed that none of the members of the remote viewing program had prior psychic abilities or interests (all other sources state that they did). 
Basically he's a nut with brain rot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.0.122 (talk) 13:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Great hatchet job

message: Anyone knows when he was born? He seemed quite old already. 80.108.103.172 (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Born

message: see Militärhellseher im Kalten Krieg: Projekt "Star Gate" published in Telepolis (Heise-Verlag, Hamburg) --Alexander.stohr (talk) 09:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Paranormal Warfare (for german readers)

message: From the article, I get the impression this guy's perceived notability is entirely due to passing mentions in film and book reviews of The Men Who Stare At Goats and a host of obscure 9/11 conspiracy sites flogging a single, sensationalistic quotation attributed to him. Surely there's non-sensational coverage of his life and career by multiple, independent sources. This is supposed to be a biography article, right? - LuckyLouie (talk) 02:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but a more accurate and complete summary of his notability would be to say that it is due to a significant section of The Men Who Stare At Goats, passing mentions in film and book reviews, and two British media articles. But you're right that more work is needed here, I'm sure that with a little effort we can do better.Vitaminman (talk) 19:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The two British "media articles" are reviews of the book and film that mention Stubblebine in passing. I agree with you that we can do better. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

text:  I agree that the British "media articles" are not sufficient to document Stubblebine's career. I had one of my edits reverted because a contributor feels Stubblebine's quote of "walking through walls" (true or not) from the Daily Mail article is relevant to put on his Wikipedia page. A lot of the information on his page is nonsense and non-bibliographical. It looks like a smear campaign from those that don't want to accept alternate 9/11 theories. Marty2Hotty (talk) 21:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

text: The main reason we have an article about his is due to his involvement in such things as Project Stargate, his belief that the military should investigate the use of the paranormal, and yes his widely publicised attempt to walk through walls. We don't mention that he's a 'truther', that he believes there are structures on Mars, etc. There is more information in this book we could use, not all negative. Doug Weller (talk) 09:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable?

message: There's some additional material, including a citation, here:  Seems to me it might be worthy of incorporating into this article. Vitaminman (talk) 17:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional material

message: I believe the addition of this material was made in good faith, but please see WP:V and WP:RS. A listing at www.last.fm/music isn't considered a reliable source of fact. A newspaper article, a biography written in a magazine, etc. would be sufficient. The www.globalresearch.ca site is a conspiracy site and definitely not reliable, and www.drrima.net is a self published source. - LuckyLouie (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Boss Reality, you need to show me how these sources meet WP:RS. We are particularly strict about sources when it comes to living people. We don't use fringe websites. We don't use self-published books such as your 3rd link (lulu.com). Maybe the 4th would have done when it was published 11 years ago, but since he's had one divorce how do we know he is still married to Laibow? I don't doubt that he was, but we've had situations when we have known someone was dead but there was no way we could state that in their article due to lack of sources. Dougweller (talk) 12:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And today, he's become one of them. Allegedly. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

text: There's a source for his divorce. There's also "West's South Eastern Reporter - Page 765 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=h-qZAAAAIAAJ The parties were married in 1952 after Albert Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point. ... decree entered |638September 19, 1994, granted Geraldine Stubblebine a final divorce on the ground of adultery." Doug Weller (talk) 09:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Ah, but which half? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:24, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: Dougweller , rather than engaging in edits that appear to me to be destructive or unconstructive (And I apologise in advance if I am wrong here), why don't you do what any Wikipedia contributor should do? Find other references to support the fact that he is married to Dr Laibow!
It's simple. I have provided some but it seems that there may be another agenda here. (And again I apologise if I am wrong). Please see what you can find.
*  theteapartytruther.com
* The infinite unknown
* Monarch: The New Phoenix Program by Marshall G. Thomas
* Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness Jim Keith
(Boss Reality (talk) 11:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Boss Reality, you need to show me how these sources meet WP:RS. We are particularly strict about sources when it comes to living people. We don't use fringe websites. We don't use self-published books such as your 3rd link (lulu.com). Maybe the 4th would have done when it was published 11 years ago, but since he's had one divorce how do we know he is still married to Laibow? I don't doubt that he was, but we've had situations when we have known someone was dead but there was no way we could state that in their article due to lack of sources. Dougweller (talk) 12:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And today, he's become one of them. Allegedly. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

text: There's a source for his divorce. There's also "West's South Eastern Reporter - Page 765 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=h-qZAAAAIAAJ The parties were married in 1952 after Albert Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point. ... decree entered |638September 19, 1994, granted Geraldine Stubblebine a final divorce on the ground of adultery." Doug Weller (talk) 09:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Ah, but which half? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:24, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Married to Dr [[Rima Laibow]]

message: "Stubblebine's statements questioning the plausibility of the damage done to The Pentagon by the hijacked aircraft during the September 11 attacks have been cited by David Ray Griffin to suggest that there was a conspiracy involving some elements of the U.S. government."
And yet, Wikipedia doesn't bother to mention what those statements WERE.  I read from a non-credible source that he questioned whether or not what impacted the Pentagon on 9/11 was a plane, and that it may have been a missle.  Crazy and stupid, right?  So I came to this Wikipedia Article to find out the truth, and what I find is an ambiguous statement about what someone else said he said, but not what someone else said he actually SAID, or even what he actually SAID.  This is too weird, and given history I doubt it's oversight.107.195.106.201 (talk) 03:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, there’s a plot against the truth. Or maybe no editor has ever been interested in it. Buy hey, you’re an editor now, so as you’re interested , go ahead and do the research and edit! Doug Weller talk 08:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Griffin's book isn't a WP:FRIND source, but here's a more RS for Stubblebine's statements and Griffin's endorsement . Note that Gambone refers to 'skeptics' as those skeptical of official conclusions, i.e. conspiracy theorists. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: September 11 attacks statements 

message: I removed a link in the lead Who Killed General Bert and Happy Birthday, Wherever You Are. which promotes a fringe conspiracy theory. This is not even close to a WP:RS. In fact, I don't think we should use citations to this site at all. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rima Laibow site links