Talk:Badgers (animation)

message: The below is a record of the discussion following this article's being listed at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion on March 17, 2004.
====Badger Badger Badger====
Wikipedia is not a web directory.  ⇒ whkoh [talk] 06:42, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)
*Alexa rank is 31,000-odd; on the other hand, might be a valid piece of internet culture.  No vote, just a comment. Meelar 06:47, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep. I agree with Jgm. Lupin 01:55, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Me too.  --Daniel C. Boyer 16:21, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: I reckon it's BS. -- anon 02:02, 20 May 2004 (BST)
===== Magic Magic Magic Magic... Mushroom Mushroom =====
Some websites say that the voice is actually saying 'Magic Magic Magic Mushroom Mushroom' etc. Is this true? BillyH 16:14, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

text: That is so blatantly badger! You need to hit them over the head with a spanner. *rhymes* 212.135.1.57 07:28, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: If you listen carefully, when the words "argh" appears and the snake sequence starts, you can hear him say "Argh snake! Argh snake!". A.K.R. 04:45, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: My bad! I didn't notice the advent calendar and I didn't see it in the regular list of animations and just assumed it was yet another derivative work. It did seem to be a particularly good reproduction of the original voice... I should have guessed better.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 11:08, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)
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The original link for the Harry Potter badger spoof (http://public.wit.edu/~pokharela/PotterPotterMovie.swf) no longer works. I've swapped in a working link (http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/PotterPotterMovie.swf), but I don't know if this mirror is condoned by the original author of the spoof.
The .edu site under which this was hosted is still active, but looks like a commercial web site started by a bunch of students now.
--Christopher Thomas 16:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Read the non-direct link page, and I feel foolish now (looks legit). --Christopher Thomas 17:06, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD discussion

message: Wikipedia is not a web directory.  ⇒ whkoh [talk] 06:42, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)
*Alexa rank is 31,000-odd; on the other hand, might be a valid piece of internet culture.  No vote, just a comment. Meelar 06:47, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep. I agree with Jgm. Lupin 01:55, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Me too.  --Daniel C. Boyer 16:21, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: I reckon it's BS. -- anon 02:02, 20 May 2004 (BST)
===== Magic Magic Magic Magic... Mushroom Mushroom =====
Some websites say that the voice is actually saying 'Magic Magic Magic Mushroom Mushroom' etc. Is this true? BillyH 16:14, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

text: That is so blatantly badger! You need to hit them over the head with a spanner. *rhymes* 212.135.1.57 07:28, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: If you listen carefully, when the words "argh" appears and the snake sequence starts, you can hear him say "Argh snake! Argh snake!". A.K.R. 04:45, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: My bad! I didn't notice the advent calendar and I didn't see it in the regular list of animations and just assumed it was yet another derivative work. It did seem to be a particularly good reproduction of the original voice... I should have guessed better.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 11:08, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)
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The original link for the Harry Potter badger spoof (http://public.wit.edu/~pokharela/PotterPotterMovie.swf) no longer works. I've swapped in a working link (http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/PotterPotterMovie.swf), but I don't know if this mirror is condoned by the original author of the spoof.
The .edu site under which this was hosted is still active, but looks like a commercial web site started by a bunch of students now.
--Christopher Thomas 16:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Read the non-direct link page, and I feel foolish now (looks legit). --Christopher Thomas 17:06, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Badger Badger Badger]]

message: Some websites say that the voice is actually saying 'Magic Magic Magic Mushroom Mushroom' etc. Is this true? BillyH 16:14, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That is so blatantly badger! You need to hit them over the head with a spanner. *rhymes* 212.135.1.57 07:28, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: If you listen carefully, when the words "argh" appears and the snake sequence starts, you can hear him say "Argh snake! Argh snake!". A.K.R. 04:45, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: My bad! I didn't notice the advent calendar and I didn't see it in the regular list of animations and just assumed it was yet another derivative work. It did seem to be a particularly good reproduction of the original voice... I should have guessed better.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 11:08, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)
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The original link for the Harry Potter badger spoof (http://public.wit.edu/~pokharela/PotterPotterMovie.swf) no longer works. I've swapped in a working link (http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/PotterPotterMovie.swf), but I don't know if this mirror is condoned by the original author of the spoof.
The .edu site under which this was hosted is still active, but looks like a commercial web site started by a bunch of students now.
--Christopher Thomas 16:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Read the non-direct link page, and I feel foolish now (looks legit). --Christopher Thomas 17:06, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magic Magic Magic Magic... Mushroom Mushroom 

message: The Zombie cartoon was not done by the same guys who made the original Badger cartoon.  Actually, I find it's a really awful tribute/parody, but I won't bother slathering opinions all over the article.  However, if someone could find out who actually did the Zombie toon, it should be mentioned in that paragraph of the article, so people don't think that Weebl and Bob had anything to do with that piece of crap. - Ugliness Man 04:41, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. - 66.214.95.63 01:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zombie 

message: The article claims "Jonti himself says that the line is "Argh snake! Argh snake!"" Is there a source on this? We should really have one if we are going to keep this claim in the article; if one is not provided the line should be removed. -Branddobbe 06:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Argh Snake Argh Snake"

message: "The audio doesn't match up exactly with the visuals. This becomes plainly discernible after 30 minutes of continuous playing. At this point, the audio is at the twelfth "badger" in the first line while the visuals show the mushroom. Over the next few hours, the visuals continue to play faster than the audio, achieving maximum separation at 4 hours 12 minutes. Thereafter the gap begins to close, and becomes synchronized again at about 8 hours 30 minutes. This process continues cyclically."
Did someone actually play this for that long? If so: why?! You're all crazy I tell you :-) Ta bu shi da yu 13:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My sentiments exactly. Somone has WAY too much time. In fact, it's 128.46.143.54, somewhere in West Lafayette, Indiana. Heh, in the midwest no less. --AK7 08:42, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Back when it was newer in particular, I find it hard to believe that anyone could stop playing it before 30 minutes had passed. Indium 05:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  You're kidding me 

message: :"It is currently unknown when between December 2005 and January 2006 this change happened."
Surely, if it was between December 2005 and January 2006, it must have snuck into the leap second? — sjorford (talk) 16:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it means "between" in the inclusive sense. Perhaps it should be clarified.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website change? 

message: So a racist parody was added awhile back, and removed.  I don't object to the removal, I think it was a good decision.  It does, however, make me wonder if it's time to start trimming off the really bad parodies.  The racist one was deemed unfit because it was offensive (and really not that funny unless you find racism funny in and of itself), but I think that the "zombie" and "roger" parodies are just very poorly made.  The fact that they're voices with no music almost misses the entire point of the original, and they're just not all that funny..  It's started to become another version of "all your x are belong to us", where people feel that inserting anything in place of "x" is sufficient parody.  My opinion is that, now that there are a fair share of parodies to choose from, there is no longer an obligation to report and list all of them, if there ever was one.
I'm removing them for now, and if anyone wishes to object and put them back on, I feel you should at least comment here.
On an unrelated note, I just want to say how terribly amused I am that next Friday will mark the two-year anniversary of DJ Clayworth's assertion up above that this will "be forgotten in a year."  This comment isn't meant to mock Clayworth, it's just interesting how you can't always predict the stamina of things like this. - Ugliness Man 19:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholly agree. Awful, non-notable imitations aren't worth keeping here. — Saxifrage ✎ 01:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overdue for a trim? 

message: I simply do not see any logic behind the removal of rogerrogerroger. Keep your opinions to yourself, you do NOT represent the total population who will view this article. I am sure that many people will want this article and indeed the whole encyclopedia to be as diverse and interesting as possible-deleting links under parodies and questioning their extistence is in direct contravention to this. On the whole this site is mostly very anti-little guy and does not welcome most articles, this only retards the development and evolution of the encyclopedia. Delete if you will, but remember what I have said. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Greenunity (talk • contribs).
:It's because it's your own site. Wikipedia does not condone people adding links to their own personal sites to the encyclopedia because they have a conflict of interest. If your site is sufficiently notable to qualify for inclusion according to Wikipedia's notability policy, then enough other people will know about it and might include it. This way, a truly notable site will get added by someone other than the site owner, and non-notable sites will never be added.
:As for being "anti-little guy", yes. Articles about non-notable people are not welcome, especially if they're written by the subject of the article. — Saxifrage ✎ 03:11, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please read WP:SPAM. -    nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 04:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: You seem to have a persecution complex, buddy.  There's no mass conspiracy to keep the little guy down, and we're not against development or evolution.  It's simply a matter of quality over quantity.  Face it, the "parody" sucks, and doesn't deserve to be included here.  If at some point in the future a new, seperate article is created with a list of parodies and tributes, then I will fully support it being added to that list, along with the zombie and racist ones as well.  However, when the list is part of a small External Links section of the main article, there needs to be a bit of quality control.  The list, when included as a sub-section to the main article, can not be "here's every parody and tribute that we know about", it needs to be "here's a few noteworthy parodies and tributes", and whether you like it or not, that stupid roger thing is not noteworthy when compared to the others on the list. - Ugliness Man 06:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It appears that Greenunity did go ahead and create Badger Badger Badger Parodies to showcase his "rogerrogerroger" and other animations that have been rejected from this article. I nominated it for deletion because none of the "parodies" that are listed are notable and Wikipedia is not a links directory. Because few people know about the page, the votes are very few so far on its Article for Deletion page. Anyone with an interest is invited to contribute their opinion here. — Saxifrage ✎ 21:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  rogerrogerroger 

message: Anyone remember The Simpsons' espisode featuring http://www.whatbadgerseat.com/ ? Is it related to Badger Badger Badger? Ewlyahoocom 16:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't appear to be related. — Saxifrage ✎ 19:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

text: It is not. This is from when Lisa had to do a report on badgers and she went to that website to find out, well, what they eat. --DancexwithxmexXx 15:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Not that it's really important, but she wasn't doing a report on badgers - there was a badger in Santa's Little Helper's dog house, and she and Bart were trying to get rid of it. 67.40.195.85 (talk) 06:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  whatbadgerseat.com 

message: I've reverted the following from the opening section of the article:
:The voice however came from Madison, WI and is that of Janson Olson who with his friend Tom Leary who were testing a new sound program. Janson was listening to headphones blasting ABBA while randomly chanting. If you listen close you can hear that what is said is " Badgers Badges. Also during the snake part you can hear a can of coke open.
It was reverted once before, and I think it should be discussed before re-adding it for the following reasons:
* Needs a citation. The previous reversion (not by myself) labeled it as "dubious".
* Grammar needs to be cleaned up.
I'm also not sure why the paragraph following it was removed.
--HunterZ 22:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted addition 

message: A recent edit switched the order of the opening sentence to read, in part, "Badger Badger Badger (aka Badgers)".  I understand why this was done, after all, the title of the article is indeed Badger Badger Badger, mostly because that is how people often refer to the cartoon and the resulting "pop culture" phenomena.  However, the actual official title of the cartoon itself is simply Badgers.  So whether or not this article should perhaps be moved to "Badgers (flash cartoon)" or something like that (with "Badger Badger Badger" redirecting to that) is not within my realm of expertise, but I do know that the article should reflect the fact that the cartoon is in fact called Badgers, and Badger Badger Badger is actually the "aka". - Ugliness Man 12:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good point! I was under the impression that the title was Badger Badger Badger so I didn't even consider that the article title might be the part needing correction. I think you're right that it ought to be moved, though I'd go with Badgers (animation) as a more general description. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it.  Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed.  I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy.  In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 03:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube links 

message: The "bots" look more like Domo-kun to me. --Ampersand2006 ( & ) 02:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Megatokyo #462 

message: Why the article is not telling the main point, what is this badger movie about? Is it intended to be fun, and how? Does "badger" resemble some nasty word? Is there a joke somewhere in the movie? What feature of this movie has made badgers so popular? 193.65.112.51 19:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The meaning of badgers

message: I think that there should be mention of PETA's recent plagiarism of this concept (http://one.revver.com/watch/167749)
Taken from b3ta.com: "Weebl Vs Peta. Jonti had a falling out with the animal rights charity over their plagiarism of his Badgers video. I spent most of yesterday fighting with Final Cut to edit this into a video, however we've been over-taken by events and Peta has agreed to remove the work. (Although, haven't actually done so yet.) Anyway, watch the vid simply because I enjoyed making it." Brooza 16:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PETA

message: I clearly remember a version that was about soccer...
:It was removed [March 21] and nobody restored it. - Ugliness Man 10:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: football football football

message: There is a version of the video at http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ - I take it this website is not owned or run by Jonti (the original creator). Anyone able to clarify this? Cheers brob 06:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: .com

message: If you wish to have Badgers as an article in its own right, please go to Talk:Weebl's cartoons#Badger badger badger and join the effort to find two, non-trivial reliable sources so that the article meets the notability requirements at WP:WEB. GDallimore (Talk) 22:03, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bwahahaha!!!! - Tbsdy lives (talk) 13:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Own article 

message: From Weebls-Stuff.com:
So I'm reading about my cartoons on Wikipedia like any self respecting egomanic should when I get to the section on Badger Badger Badger. Apparently someone called Chris Hengler is my friend and scribbled the idea for it on a piece of A4 paper.
Who is this mystery person? I wish to see this mythical piece of A4 in the hope that it may contain more secret knowledge and ideas for popular cartoons. Chris, if you're out there, well done on coming up with Badgers even though we've never met. I'm glad the truth about your valuable input is finally coming out.
 That's from the maker himself. Methinks somebody has been writing non-truths again.
Huw Dawson (talk) 17:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I already removed it. It was sourced, but the source didn't look reliable. — Matt Eason (Talk •  Contribs) 17:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I tracked down the edit responsible, here. Looks a bit stale for there to be any point in taking action. The 'source' was just a Wikipedia mirror. CaptainVindaloo t c e 18:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the guy that's talking about. It stems from an old edit ages ago which my friend made, that then got copied into the page which was eventually used as a source by somebody else to add it back in. I had nothing to do with badger badger badger at all, and have never tried to take any credit for it. I've added a comment on the website's news entry explaining in more depth what happened. My mind's pretty much blown by this whole thing, I never knew about the original entry until it had already been removed, and had no idea it had somehow made its way back. So, yeah, I'm your guy. Sorry for any inconvenience caused to anyone - as well as the comment on the page I've also e-mailed the REAL creator directly to explain and apologize on behalf of my friend. Hengler (talk) 00:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Aah, thought it would be something like this. Similar stuff has happened in the past (lazy journalist/website sources something from Wikipedia without attribution, lazy journalist/website's article is then used as a source for the original Wikipedia article, confusion ensues). Not your fault, but thanks for the explanation. — Matt Eason (Talk •  Contribs) 00:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

text: [edit conflict] No worries, it's not turning into a repeat of the Seigenthaler incident. CaptainVindaloo t c e 00:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Who the hell is Chris Hengler?

message: why was the "in media" removed? 174.117.233.162 (talk) 15:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "in media" removed 

message: the first occurrence was here: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/120321 Submitted: 09/01/2003 | 11:49PM EST  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.137.49.27 (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original submit 

message: I remember seeing this in my first year at university, which would be 1997/98, so the claim that it was published in 2003 is either wrong, or misleading (if it was released several years before being officialy "published"). Wardog (talk) 14:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Published 14 February 2003" 

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