Talk:Overseas Vietnamese

message: http://books.google.com/?id=TaDWFZYoZC8C&pg=PA7&dq=%22viet+kieu%22+self-identification&q=%22viet%20kieu%22%20self-identification|publisher=Rowman & Littlefield Publishers
this reference is fake because it is unrelated to the claim that "Việt Kiều" is not used for self-reference. I don't say that the claim is false, just that this source is fake, just check it out. It point to highlighted texts "self-identification" and "Việt Kiều" but these paragraphs doesn't prove the claim in any ways. Besides removing this fake reference, I edited this page with much more information, notably updating the Vietnamese American number to near 1.8 million too.Arist Tara (talk) 17:03, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you say it's fake? In page 7 it clearly said that the name "Viet Kieu" is imposed externally (by people in Vietnam). I also can't find the 1.8 million figure in the links you cited. DHN (talk) 17:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad. Sorry, the source is correct. The US census factfinder use a machinery so that you can't take the permalink of the fact being searched. You can manually reach that page by entering in "Quick Start" of http://factfinder2.census.gov/ "Vietnamese" and check the "race/ancestry" checkbox, choose "Vietnamese and any combination", "OK", and then roll down and choose the first "SELECTED POPULATION PROFILE IN THE UNITED STATES". I'll change the ref to this link and the guide.  Arist Tara (talk) 17:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The largest number I found was 1,737,433, not 1.8 million. DHN (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at it here. http://www.mediafire.com/?s791b2lzceibrsp the latest 2010 census also includes interesting degree information, so I added that too.  Arist Tara (talk) 18:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake reference

message: Why always slovakia not exist never in diaspora statistics???
I know there are 5000 Vietnamese in Slovakia, so why are none informations about that??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.158.127 (talk) 23:35, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the Slovakia section, but just 2,000. Arist Tara (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: koreans in slovakia

message: Should we have a Spanish translation of this article, if it all possible? I am willing to do it, but I am new to Wikipedia— any guidance? 
(Jimmyhan son (talk) 06:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish Translation?

message: Too many external links! Problem is, I don't know where to start. - Wikiacc 23:46, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: Should we merge Vietnamese Europeans back to here? Since it's also an overview, might as well keep it in the main overview article; for example, Vietnamese in the post-communist countries really don't have that much in common with Vietnamese war refugees in France, except by their virtue of being on the same continent. (Don't think that "Vietnamese Europeans" is a particularly good title either ... ) cab 01:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Might as well, although there's no reason to lump them all together either, since we don't lump USA with Canada...we should just list them in order of size. DHN 03:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No objections for a month, so I'm redirecting. Actually there is no content worth merging in my opinion, since it's entirely unsourced, and full of WP:OR about how they assimilate faster and whatnot. I'm pasting the table below in case it can be sourced. Also see :pl:Wietnamczycy w Europie (an unsourced substub) cab 03:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Lacking an authorative census, estimates of the number of Vietnamese in France vary wildly.  One estimate gives Paris alone 400,000 people . The 250,000-300,000 estimate seems the most reasonable, as it is supported by both the Vietnamese and French governments. DHN (talk) 23:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe 

message: "The number of ethnic Vietnamese living in France is estimated to be around 300,000 as of 2006, making it the largest East Asian community in Europe and the second largest Vietnamese community outside Asia after the United States". Vietnam is not in East Asia, but Southeast Asia. Maybe Southeast Asia is part of East Asia, but that's not how most people view it, and not the definition on Wikipedia. An encyclopedia should have consistency Tridungvo 23:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Vietnamese is considered as East Asian people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.170.220.191 (talk) 19:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vietnamese Americans the largest East Asian....

message: The start of the article says: "They also include women who married wealthy men from Taiwan and South Korea through marriage agencies". 
I read one of the major reasons why so many South Korean men marry Vietnamese brides is because the Korean men are farmers, and Korean girls usually want to marry men from urban areas. Another factor, though not as important, is the shortage of women in Korea. I believe this to be true of Taiwanese men too. It's true they are 'wealthy' compared to Vietnamese standards, but they are not per definition wealthy. Tridungvo 02:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No shortage of women in Taiwan or Korea.  Just a shortage of women who want to marry farmers...Kransky (talk) 14:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vietnamese women marrying wealthy men?

message: Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? Vietnamese people in Taiwan ??? --59.117.245.251 12:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ja:在台ベトナム人 ??? --59.117.245.251 13:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Vietnamese people in Taiwan]] ??? 

message: Why isn't there a separate article on the French Vietnamese community? There are clearly more in France than anywhere else after the United States and Cambodia. There may be information lacking on exact numbers due to French law, but the hundreds of thousands of people involved clearly implies notability. Olockers (talk) 12:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnamese-French?? 

message: According to a recently published study of the Berlin Institute, the number of people in Germany with a Vietnamese ethnic background is stated to be 19 percent of 730.000 (around 140.000).
Sources:
http://www.berlin-institut.org/selected-studies/unutilised-potentials.html
and the direct link to study in German with the number of ethnic Vietnamese on page 23:
http://www.berlin-institut.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Zuwanderung/Integration_RZ_online.pdf 
--87.78.195.91 (talk) 09:10, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnamese in Germany 

message: Regarding the article: although the article is informative it uses language and statements which should not be in Wikipedia without quoting sources. I will only point out one: "Generally, overseas Vietnamese residing in North America, Western Europe, and Australia (which represent the vast majority of overseas Vietnamese populations) are unilaterally opposed to the existing government of Vietnam". Are there any surveys, are there hard data available to support this. Please consider rephrasing statements such as this as the article looses credibility. --Odisej (talk) 11:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This sentence makes no sense - "unilaterally" means 'of one side'.  Kransky (talk) 14:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sources added to the statements. DHN (talk) 20:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contents 

message: The text on the four (or five?) kinds of overseas Vietnamese is a rash over-simplification, and appaers to be unpublished synthesis.  It ignores Vietnamese living in Cambodia and Laos, or those who emigrate to be reunited with an earlier "category" of Vietnamese.  I would remove the paragraph, or rewrite it to describe the various reasons why Vietnamese have emigrated, but I would not want VNese pigeon-holed like this.  Kransky (talk) 04:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synthesis 

message: Removed entry, because a wikipedian provided a source that only 36, not a thousand Vietnamese registered in the 2001 Mexican census. The US-Mexican border was used by soem Vietnamese and other Asian immigrants to enter the US, but I have to be in agreement with the 36 Vietnamese (are they naturalized Mexican citizens?) and the tendency for not only Vietnamese but Chinese, Korean and Taiwanese in Mexico to relocate into their U.S. counterpart communities. In the early 1990's, a few America-bound ships from Chinaand Taiwan were escorted by the Mexican navy in the Pacific, and the Mexican government provided a temporary shelter for Chinese immigrants in Baja California, whom sought passage into the U.S. All the camp tenants were repatriated and returned to China, not given passage to the U.S.     
Some Vietnamese immigration went into Mexico, usually they live in close proximity to the Vietnamese communities in the Western U.S. such as San Diego, California in the border towns of Tijuana and Mexicali, Baja California.   71.102.12.55 (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Elsewhere

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message: This article largely fails to mention Hoa people, ethnic Chinese in Vietnam, who made up a large share of emigrants for various reasons. See this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoa_people#Departure_from_Vietnam:_1975%E2%80%931990.
The title and introduction of the article are also confusing regarding to whom it refers. Does this page only refer to ethnically Vietnamese (Minh) people outside of Vietnam or does it refer to any Vietnamese nationals outside Vietnam? Many host countries identify people only from national origin and would count any Chinese Vietnamese or other ethnic minorities as simply Vietnamese. So do the numbers abroad reflect ethnic Vietnamese, Vietnamese nationals, or different numbers depending on how each country measures it? This should be clarified throughout the article to avoid confusion.
128.239.50.168 (talk) 03:33, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese and other ethnic ancestry 

message: Submit to remove the line about "vietnamese people who live in foreign lands" as it is already implicitly implied and does not need to be overstated. 14.202.224.147 (talk) 04:46, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please specify which line you want to be removed. The lead sentence doesn't seem to be problematic to me (MOS:LEADSENTENCE). ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2020 

message: While I appreciate some of the new information you're adding to the article, you tend to generalize added a lot of information that are not found in sources.  First, the proportion of Vietnamese who are Christians in Western countries might be higher than those in Eastern Europe, but they are still a minority, so characterizing them as "most" is patently false.  The same is the case for Vietnamese Americans' support for Trump.  While some might support Trump, you have not cited any polls to indicate that they constitute a majority to fit your "most" characterization. Please revise your wordings to fit your sources, otherwise I will have to view your whole edit as POV-pushing. Also keep in mind to use reliable sources.  Some random person's blog should not be used as a source. DHN (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me tell few thing. I can't say it is "most". But certainly there are a lot of pro-Trump sentiment among Vietnamese population in the United States. Trust me, my uncle, who traveled to the U.S., had reported about this sentiment before. You can find in Vietnamese channels, where it is bombarded with pro-Trump sentiment. Even in YouTube, Vietnamese Americans remain the most Trump loyalists. I have tried to find the best about this information, but I probably suggest you to read AAPI rating. I'll add into it as well. ZaDoraemonzu (talk) 17:26, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can't say "majority" or "most" if you can't cite any polls that indicates that and rely on your anecdata.  Please remove those claims or provide sources for them. DHN (talk) 18:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

text: As a casual observer, I also appreciate the information - the appearance of the South Vietnamese flag at the Capitol escaped my notice.  It all makes sense (similar to anti-Castro sentiment in Miami); and something I didn't know about the diaspora. Lambjams (talk) 01:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generalization 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Vietnamese people in China and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 9#Vietnamese people in China until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  signed, Rosguill talk 15:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Vietnamese people in China" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: "Economic migrants who work in other Asian countries such Taiwan, Japan and South Korea." Should be  "Economic migrants who work in other Asian countries such asTaiwan, Japan and South Korea." 2603:6010:5A02:F700:159B:EE91:7D32:6C18 (talk) 00:36, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor typo