Talk:Twenty Years to Midnight

message: the whole inquisitor plot is a referance to gort in the day the earth stood still, why no reference to it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.241.193 (talk) 09:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the day the earth stood still 

message: Just to let you know how I'm writing these. I'm trying to hit all the major plot points without doing a scene-by-scene recap or giving away all the jokes. To my understanding, Wikipedia is opposed to full recaps, and I personally agree. Wikipedia also doesn't seem too keen on summaries even as detailed as we have been making them, prefering a one or two paragraph nutshell. However, later editors will come in to add their own touches, inevitably adding more information. I would suggest though that the place to list all the pop culture references is under Trivia, rather than the body of the summary. Long after the episode has aired, I believe future readers will value a more general overview rather than a point-by-point analysis. --Boradis 04:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can understand why you removed some of my edits as not being 'trivia' and instead being speculation and analysis. However, why didn't they therefore go into a section called "speculation and analysis?" Is there some wikirule against such things in episode summaries?--Eric Burns 08:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, speculation and analysis are considered original research. Just as a printed encyclopedia shouldn't contain analysis or guesswork, neither should these articles. (Obviously this isn't strictly enforced throughout the site, but it is one of Wikipedia's guidelines.) - DynSkeet *  Talk 14:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: C'est bien. Thanks for the elaboration!--Eric Burns 20:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Less time between this episode and Ice Station Impossible may have passed than we think, Rocket, being a super baby and all, may have some form of accelerated aging.  Since other characters, Trianna for example, show no signs of any real aging (let alone nearly two years), this might be the case.--Jackelbeaver 10:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My thoughts on plot summaries 

message: Okay, I'm generally pretty cool about things being reverted. But:
*The girl Jonas Venture, Jr. is canoodling with as Rusty breaks into the room is apparently the same girl Brock slept with in Assassinanny 911 -- or at least she is from a similar part of the country, having a similar appearance and voice and speaking the same sort of language.
was added to the trivia section. It was then reverted out with the explanation "Since this item itself isn't even sure that it's right and that she's the same girl, let's leave it out." I don't think that was appropriate, since if it's not the same girl, it's still clearly a call back to the earlier episode. She had a similar appearance, voice, and color of clothing, and spoke in a similar language. That's obviously and clearly trivia, and certainly belongs in the description. Let's try not to be overzealous in keeping the entry pristine, okay?--Eric Burns 08:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The best solution is to compare the credits to those of "Assassinanny," and let the show's creators tell us if she is the same character. --Boradis 09:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The character in this episode is listed as "Jonas Jr's Ibezan Houseguest," and is performed by Mia Barron. I'll look for a credits listing for "Assassinanny." --Boradis 09:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The character in "Assassinanny" is credited as "Island Girl," also performed by Mia Barron, who also voices Molotov Cocktease and Sally Impossible. --Boradis 09:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Just watched again on another broadcast, and the girl in this episode has lighter skin and wavier hair than Island Girl, who is visible in this image: http://pics.livejournal.com/jacksonpublick/pic/0000f8ck --Boradis 09:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The girl in this episode spoke Spanish. The girl in Assassinanny spoke... well, I don't know, apparently "Macronesian", but definitely not Spanish. - DynSkeet *  Talk 14:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My crappy computer doesn't have Photoshop or MSPaint to grab a screenshot of the episode off the Fix, but there is a very clear closeup on the Ibezan woman right after the captain explains his new job. Anyone comparing the two characters side by side will see they are not the same woman by any stretch. --Boradis 03:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Overzealous Reversions

message: The plot summary is still way too long. Anyone else want to give a shot at trimming it? I wanna take a break from wielding the vicious scalpel. - DynSkeet *  Talk 18:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll go shorter next time I write one. The thing is, the last two that I first wrote were much, much shorter, but grew to considerable length after I stopped. I have a feeling that if we write quick and to-the-point to begin with, it'll grow to this size anyhow. --Boradis 03:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's going to be a major struggle in the VB articles... everyone has a different idea of the ideal size for articles, and will always be lengthening or shortening them. I've gone back and forth on the issue myself. - DynSkeet *  Talk 13:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  shorten 

message: Okay, I will probably take a stab at shortening the plot section today. However, the trivia section is getting extremely long. I have no good solution to this, since what trivia is encyclopedic and what is not is completely subjective. - DynSkeet *  Talk 16:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sound familiar? 

message: The weapon wielded by Jonny Quest isn't a Wildey Magnum at all, but really a Luger, or atleast heavilly based on one. This is easilly seen if one compares the two real-life weapons. Note the lack of rib atop the barrel and the visible toggle-mechanism at the back(the two circular protrusions). So someone might want to change that.
82.174.227.7 05:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gun reference 

message: Another likely reference: the scenario strongly resembles the James Blish novel VOR, which is about the earth being judged by an alien robot, whose name derives from the three-colour beam - violet/orange/red - it uses to communicate. 81.132.97.165 23:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  VOR? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:VB218.jpg

message: Do we really need the goofs as they are now? I say no. Lots42 (talk) 06:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heck, they don't even seem to BE goofs. Lots42 (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goofs 

message: I deleted much speculation, including libel. You can't accuse real people of slapping people around! Lots42 (talk) 04:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spec