Talk:MS Freedom of the Seas

message: According the the QM2 page, she will lose her title of largest passenger ship to the Freedom of the Seas in May 2006. Freedom of the Seas at 1112 ft (according to this article) is in no way, shape, form or dimension larger than the QM2 at 1132 ft. Can someone spot the error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.8.197 (talk) 01:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By convention passenger ships are measured by gross tonnage, not displacement.  And Freedom of the Seas may well displace less than QM2 and the two prior Queens.  Compared to QM2, Freedom is longer and wider overall, but her hull is narrower and she draws significantly less water.  Freedom however likely has a higher block coefficient than QM2's .61.  We would need actual dimensions of the submerged hulls of both ships and the block coefficient for Freedom to determine which ship is heavier.  Despite her slightly smaller gross tonnage QM2 may well have a higher displacement than Freedom of the Seas. Kablammo 23:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: Some discrepancies in this article have arisen, I have updated part of the ship information in the side bar, however information on source websites is conflicting. 
The article currently states the ship will be christened on 2nd May 2006 in New York. By my calculations it takes about 7 days for the Freedom of the Seas to cross the Atlantic at full speed (~5,800km / 40km/h = 145h) would take about 6 days. Now, the Freedom is due to leave Southampton Cruise terminal for its maiden voyage at 17:00 on the 30th April. The BBC news report from today says its sailing straight from Oslo to New York, whilst the Southampton Cruise Terminal  has it scheduled to be there this weekend. With fireworks etc to send it off. If someone could confirm these either way. JonEastham 19:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I took pics of her in Oslo, and its stated here in the newspapers that she sails for Southampton. Ulflarsen 21:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maiden Voyage/Departure 

message: Shouldn't it be M/S Freedom of the Seas not (as it currently is) M/S Freedom of the Seas? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to go ahead and change it. Jarfingle 08:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "I'm guessing, is $6mil FOR A WEEK, not for each day" Is this the basis for the $1 million per day figure?  I agree with the logic that $6 million per day is probably too high, but we can't just invent a new figure here.  Given that no one has found a source for this for quite some time, I am removing this fact from the article.  -- Bdentremont (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title question 

message: The gross tonnage (gt) of the vessel has been stated in various edits of this article as 154,000, 154,407, 158,000, and 160,000.  Published figures use most or all of these, so support can be found for any of them.  I have changed the table to use the actual rating by DNV  of 154,407.  As that is the official rating by the applicable classification society it is the one that should be used.
Various figures have been given for deadweight tonnage; I have deleted this value as it does not have a lot of meaning for passenger vessels.  
There was a figure for displacement given earlier; that has also been deleted as its source was not given and the figure seems too high (especially in comparison to QM2's estimated displacement of 76,000 t for a liner of similar volume but with more robust construction than a cruise ship).  Displacement would be an interesting figure if a reliable source can be found.  Kablammo 15:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She's not longer than QM2 so why is she the largest ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten3189 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size (again) 

message: I have deleted this claim:
:* The aircraft carrier USS Nimitz could fit inside the shipRannikon Puolustaja, 2/2006, p. 77
Nimitz has a greater wl breadth and overall width, much deeper draft, and is longer at the waterline than Freedom of the Seas.  The cruise ship is only larger in overall length.  Nimitz also has a much higher displacement.  Kablammo 23:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison with [[USS Nimitz]] 

message: "It is one of the few ships with 4 bow thrusters on each side with 8 bow thrusters in total."
Don't bow thrusters just go across the ship's keel and blow water on either side? Which means that there are four bow thrusters, not eight? BadaBoom (talk) 04:17, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bow thrusters 

message: Go check out the food section. "7.5 desserts per day per person"... What? --76.105.145.143 (talk) 10:01, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed as uncited.  Kablammo (talk) 19:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ......Who wrote that?

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message: I wonder whether we should record the occasional "lost at sea" incident. The ship seems like an innocent bystander. It didn't founder or anything. Kind of like somebody jumping off a pier. We don't record that as part of the Pier article. Or someone using Rockefeller Plaza as a place to set himself afire. Not the Plaza's "fault" nor germane to the Plaza article. In these cases, merely a locale. Quite different from having a boat sink! Student7 (talk) 20:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The editor that added that section added similar sections to dozens and dozens of cruise ship articles. It's a bit like an article for a small town discussing every mysterious disappearance, but I didn't know if there was any consensus for removal. Perhaps this should be raised at WP:SHIPS. My personal vote would be to remove the lost at sea mentions unless the events themselves demonstrate notability, but as far as I know there isn't an official policy that supports my opinion. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 22:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I raised this issue at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#RfC:_Inclusion_of_.22Lost_at_sea.22_and_.22Missing_person.22_incidents_in_ship_articles. --Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 22:52, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Lost at sea

message: It appears that they have had a fire: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2015/07/articles/fires-1/freedom-of-the-seas-fire-is-royal-caribbean-installing-a-scrubber-system-with-passengers-aboard/  --74.1.240.170 (talk) 15:08, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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