Talk:Battle of Dunbar (1650)

message: - a map has been added to the infobox by VFF0347. I think a map is probably a good thing, but I'm not sure this is the right one - do you think we need to show all of Scotland (all the way up to Shetland) in order for readers to be able to identify where we are? There are various alternatives available: Scotland South and Scotland Southeast jump out at me as being potentially more useful. I also wonder whether we ought to show the relative locations of Dunbar and Edinburgh on the map, but it would probably get too crowded if we also attempted to show Leith and Musselburgh, which are also mentioned in the text. Would be keen to know your thoughts on this.
:@: A map is a great idea. I am kicking myself for not having thought of it. I have made a few tweaks. What do you think? I reckon that Dunbar needs removing to uncrowd it. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:14, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I like your map - I tried knocking something like that this morning, but yours looks better than anything I managed. I see what you mean about being crowded - I've tried using a small battle symbol, which to my eye looks a bit less cluttered - what do you reckon? (I feel that Dunbar would be a very odd omission...) GirthSummit (blether) 17:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , agreed, which is why I left it in. Yes, that's a lot better. I have made a couple of further minor adjustments and I think it's done. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text:  I suspect that  Kingdom of England might be a tad inappropriate. But Commonwealth - possibly. I shall leave that to those with access to more specialist resources. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text: , it seems to me that either England or England would work - shall I toss a coin? GirthSummit (blether) 17:45, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , feel free; although I still lean towards Commonwealth. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:50, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I was reading too much into your 'but' there - I thought you were leaning away. I shall make it so. GirthSummit (blether) 17:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  ta. You know anyone who might do the source review? I have put it on request at the top of the FAC talk page, but there are an unusually large number ahead of us in the queue. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , we could beg a favour of  - I've seen them do source reviews in the past, and I think I've also seen them doing work on Scottish subjects before, so perhaps they'd be willing to take a look if we smile sweetly. GirthSummit (blether) 18:03, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  do you fancy doing the honours? Gog the Mild (talk) 18:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

text:  and  - Gentlemen - Thank you for your notes and comments. I defer to you. I am not all that knowledgeable regarding the history of Scotland or England. I made the change as I assumed that the article on the Third English Civil War was the overarching authority for the events that happened after Charles I was executed and England became a Commonwealth. I therefore thought that the articles on Dunbar, Inverkeithing, etc. ought to conform. But I will leave the review and update to you and the FAC. I like the change that you made regarding the English Commonwealth vs the Kingdom of England. I also like your maps with one suggestion... Can the map be a relief map? Thanks so much Virgil FairchildVFF0347 (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I'd be willing to try out a relief map and see how it looks (we don't want it to be too cluttered) - certainly the modern county boundaries shown in the location map don't add anything useful in the context of the battle - but I don't believe a relief map exists for this smaller area, and putting a module together to create one is beyond my technical know-how. GirthSummit (blether) 12:32, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map and belligerents