Talk:Astronaut

message: In the terminology, 'other terms section' (section 2.4), please add a newly-coined word for Arab astronauts, as follows: To refer to an Arab astronaut the term "najmonaut" is used and it derives from the Arabic word for star "najm" and the Greek word for sailor "nautes".
References: 
http://najmonauts.com https://www.reddit.com/user/science_vid/comments/j18pd0/is_there_are_name_for_astronaut_in_the_arab_world/ Dan287 (talk) 11:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done, we only report words that are in common use. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2020 

message: hi. I've never consider user-created WP "rules", which more often than not are pieces of advice rather than "laws", as more important than the principle and rationale they are meant to support. When other editors are sending me to some obscure WP theory page, I usually ignore it, but when I do take the time and try to decipher the twisted lingo usually used there, I get enough margin for supporting my version as much as that of my supposed "opponent". So back to basics.
Why do we have boldface in the lead? Because we want to be user-friendly. It's simply to indicate which terms are being discussed and explained in the article, at its very beginning. A very substantial part of the space travellers dealt with in this article are cosmonauts, rather than astronauts; qed, discussion closed. It was actually quite a decision to call the article Astronaut rather than Cosmonaut, but a) I do understand that the former is by far more widely used in English, and b) the redirect solves much of that problem - although I completely disagree with the redirect leading to a subset and not to the top of the article. Check out the much more balanced German WP article, where they show how for instance there are several examples of people who are, strictly speaking, both cosmonauts and astronauts, two of which flew first in a Soviet/Russian-made vehicle and then in a NASA vehicle. And there are lots of Western and other non-Russian cosmonauts, especially since the Space Shuttle programme has shut down.
Don't get me wrong: I have never been "pro-Soviet" or anything alike, quite the opposite; I'm just trying to make WP as objective, informative, and user-friendly as I possibly can. And the relegation of "cosmonaut" to the "Russia" subset is none of that: it's objectively wrong (West-centered and counter-factual), non-informative (keeps user from understanding the reality), and user-unfriendly (those coming to the page looking up "cosmonaut" are sent to the wrong place and need to find their way to the correct information, which many don't have the time, disposition, or skill to do).
The first requirement of an encyclopedic article is to work with a clear definition and stick to it. The German WP is a good example on how it's done correctly: the topic here is "space traveller", which is mainly covered in reality by two important and widely-used terms, "cosmonaut" and "astronaut", with some other terms being introduced by specific nations (China, India, France, Malaysia). The German WP probably gives a bit too much space to the more fringe terms, although a) China might prove to be more than fringe, and b) that's what an encyclopedia does, the enkyklios part is meant as "complete", but "cosmonaut" and "astronaut" are definitely both mainstream and deeply rooted.
Sometimes I'm a bit in doubt when sustaining a proposition, but this time I really am not. I hope you can see the validity of the point I'm making. Have a great day, Arminden (talk) 11:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cosmonaut" on par with "astronaut" by way of reality & topic of this article; not a subset. 

message: Having a level 4 article classified as C class is honestly nothing short of an embarrassment, and I think the biggest problem is that this article just doesn't go into the history of manned spaceflight at all, its all just definitions and technicalities. There is a section on "milestones" but its formatted like a list and just makes the whole article read even more broken up and confusing. I probably won't have the time to write up a whole new section by myself but a good place to start would be pooling together a bunch of potential sources here so that we can use them later. Orchastrattor (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  History and general overhaul 

message: Please change "ESA envisions to recruit an astronaut with a physical disability" to "ESA envisions recruiting an astronaut with a physical disability". Bad grammar. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:7DCC:1F54:AB7A:19CD (talk) 12:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:57, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2021 

message: I changed the redirect for Space traveller form here to List of space travellers by first flight (I also changed/created redirects for one l and plural s variants pointing to the same place; Space traveler ‎ was previously pointing to human spaceflight and the plural ones did not exist). See also Talk:List_of_space_travellers_by_first_flight#Astronaut_definition. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space travel(l)er  

message: On November 23, 2022, it was announced that John McFall (athlete) was chosen to be the first ESA parastronaut. The article should be updated to reflect this. 212.186.238.122 (talk) 15:02, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First ESA parastronaut selected  

message: This is probably a generally accepted translation for 太空人 (tàikōng rén), and probably how they translate it into English in both Hong Kong and Taiwan.  That said, there is generally no gender attached to the Chinese character 人 (rén), meaning person, people etc. Nevertheless, without context attached to it, when reading, it is sometimes assigned a male gender by the reader.  Also tàikōng rén would be the mainland Mandarin (national Chinese) pinyin romanization for 太空人.  The romanization for Canatonese, as mainly spoken in Hong Kong, would be different (possibly: Taai hang yan?), and Taiwan use the Wade-Giles romanization (possibly: t'ai k'ung jen?). I am probably being a bit pedantic here, but thought to add a comment nonetheless. DeptfordDave JC (talk) 17:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese for 'spaceman' 

message: This statement needs updating: "a generally-accepted but unofficial term for a paying non-crew passenger who flies a private non-NASA or military vehicles above 50 miles (80 km) is a space tourist (as of 2020[needs update], nobody has yet qualified for this status)."  People obviously do qualify at this point, including William Shatner. The wording is also mangled in multiple ways and should read "a generally-accepted but unofficial term for a paying non-crew passenger who flies in a private (non-NASA, non-military) vehicle above 50 miles (80 km) is a space tourist ...", probably followed by a mention of the first qualifying instance.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space tourists 

message: Astronauts and Cosmonauts are different. Astronauts land on space bodies like the moon and artificial ones too, like the ISS (International Space Station) Cosmonauts just go into space, and don’t land on anything. DogeofWisdom69 (talk) 09:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take it...  How would you compare the achievements of, say, Scott Carpenter (an astronaut) and Yuri Malenchenko (a cosmonaut)? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small mistake many people make…