Talk:Criticism of capitalism

message: In no sense is the current section on unemployment a criticism of capitalism. I'm going to re-write this to explain why unemployment is necessary, in a capitalist system, in order to create downward pressure on wages and benefits, unless someone can provide a reason that I shouldn't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.198.119 (talk) 03:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Unemployment

message: I deleted pro-capitalism arguments because this article is called Criticism of capitalism, not Two-sided debate about capitalism.Spylab (talk) 13:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Criticism is the judgement of the merits and faults of the work or actions of one individual by another (the critic). To criticise does not necessarily imply to find fault, but the word is often taken to mean the simple expression of prejudice or disapproval." - wikipedia criticism page 76.66.181.58 (talk) 13:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have been making edits to the page, by bringing criticism over from the main page. One point I was unsure on was the counter arguments being included in any section discussing criticism. What are your thoughts?TauGuys (talk) 18:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted pro-capitalist content

message: The style on this page is horrendous, especially in the opening paragraphs.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.32.78 (talk) 09:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up the style

message: Surely the "types of criticism" section is rather unbalanced. Marxism and religion, two massive, major, global movements with long histories, and then, occupying about the same space, Noam Chomsky, one person who is prominent in the global public sphere but is not exactly original in his criticisms of capitalism. BobFromBrockley (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The big difference is that Chomsky does not believe capitalism exists.  -Teetotaler 17 November, 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.21.166 (talk) 03:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chomsky? 

message: It should be "Criticisms of capitalism" not "Criticism of capitalism". One- this makes more sense. Two- we've got "criticisms" articles instead of "criticism" for Marxism, socialism, anarchism, and anarcho-capitalism. Shouldn't this page conform?
byelf2007 (talk) 4 July 2011
:I agree that the title should be changed but don't know how to do it. I think the singular "Criticism" should be used for all of the articles. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 22:14, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This topic was addressed in the past. Take a look at the archives. --S. Rich (talk) 03:40, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: This article's name needs to be changed

message: I would like to point out that there is no significant criticism of capitalism or any of its fundamental institutions in this article that are based on primarily scientific and/or mathematical principles or models. By "scientific" I mean using the scientific method (including any of its forms) to obtain resultant data from which a conclusion is based on, and this conclusion should be free to be modified based on new or better data. This is opposed to assuming some model is accurate and then trying to make the world fit this model. Mathematics in all its many forms is of course essential to understand and quantify the results.
Surely, given the crucial importance of peer-review in the sciences and in mathematics - and given their standard of a more or less neutral point of view in the first place, this should be easily accomplished. 自教育 (talk) 23:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be clear... do you want the article to say that there is no criticism from this perspective? Or do you want somebody to find such criticism and add it? bobrayner (talk) 17:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Mathematical/Scientific Criticisms?

message: I see that some apparent sock has added this content (although I have tweaked the order here):
* Capital in the Twenty-First Century (2013), by Thomas Piketty
Since it's an excellent See also link, I'll add it and take responsibility for the addition myself. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piketty's book 

message: The two articles mostly overlap. Chrismorey originally suggested this, but I think it's a great idea. I suggest that "Anti-capitalism" content should merge into "Criticism of capitalism" because the former has less (and less robust) content, but I'd be happy with either title. bobrayner (talk) 13:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose merge as the anti-capitalism movement is distinct from the arguments against capitalism. The movements themselves have features that are distinct, frequently because of their advocacy for the supremacy of other systems. Also, the size of the combined article would be unwieldy. Klbrain (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given no consensus over more than 2 years. Klbrain (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Anti-capitalism]] 

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message: I have some idea on how to reorganize the Issues section. The key is to connect topics roughly back-to-back. In particular, the ones concerning the environment should be placed together near the end. Also, I feel like the one about the notion of wage slavery is really a subtopic of "exploitation of workers". At this time, I have not considered merging any sections.
#Democracy and freedom
#Exploitation of workers
#Imperialism and political oppression
#Inefficiency, irrationality and unpredictability
##Market failure
#Inequality
#Market instability
#Property
#Environmental sustainability
#Profit motive
#Comparison to slavery
#Supply and demand
#Externalities
#Supply and demand
#Market instability
#Inequality
#Democracy and freedom
#Exploitation of workers
##Comparison to slavery
#Imperialism and political oppression
#Property
#Profit motive
#Externalities
#Inefficiency, irrationality and unpredictability
##Market failure
#Environmental sustainability
–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The flow of the Issues subsections 

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message: You opposed my text twice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_capitalism&diff=1205823467&oldid=1205761719
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_capitalism&diff=1210834769&oldid=1210828844
You stated: "Not really a criticism of capitalism" and "You have been reverted many times for shoehorning undue or off-topic material into numerous articles." Regarding the last bit, I strongly disagree with those people, as I do with you.
Are you seriously claiming that if capitalists run some kind of price war against African-Americans, it would not be held against capitalism?
Best regards Lau737 (talk) 12:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Admissibility Redlining "Racism By Means Of Capitalism"