Talk:North Dakota Fighting Hawks

message: This page should be integrated into a larger page on mascot naming controversy.  It's not proper to start an article on something simply to criticise it. --Alexwcovington 07:12, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: It apparently only takes 70 years for people to be truly offended? Yeesh. The debate seems a little off. Its not like it is wimpy or surrendering Sioux. Many Indians fought on despite enormous odds. Hardly a character flaw to be steadfast in the face of such. On the bright side, a ready made replacement for Fighting Sioux could be Spineless WASPs... which would probably garner no outcry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zotel (talk • contribs) 
Actaully it did not take 70 years.  this controversy has been ongoing for some time. It is not somuch the use of the word "Fighting" that some find offensive as it is the word "Sious" which was a name given to several tribes by European Americans.  The Native American community has always ben didvided on the use of that name.   Some oppose it and some embrace it.  And I suspect that the use of the term "Spinelss Wasps" would also be seen as inapporpriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 (talk • contribs) 
:Just so everyone is aware, Wikipedia talk pages are primarily for discussing the article and changes to it. Talk pages are not for airing personal feelings on controversial issues. --MatthewUND(talk) 01:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Amusing.

message: I was wondering. Due to the controversy of North Dakota athletics' nickname and logo, should UND revert back to its old nickname as the "Flickertails"? Just my opinion.
:Talk page isn't a Forum, but I'm sure UND will setup a committee on a new name with the Flickertails as one nominee. Personnally, I like the ring of Fighting Whities - it goes completely to the other end of the race spectrum and somewhat accurately reflects much of North Dakota... Ckruschke (talk) 16:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hope so too. Despite the Indian name/race nickname controversy within the NCAA, hope that UND would find a well-fit nickname to replace the "Fighting Sioux". It would be a shame if the institution would begin the academic year on every sport it sponsors without a nickname. jlog3000 (talk) 03:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The administration has already stated that the school will be nicknameless for at least the 2012-13 school year. Ckruschke (talk) 17:51, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it sucks to have a university to be nicknameless. And it's the first time in NCAA history that it has happened. :/ jlog3000 (talk) 01:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is what it is. Ckruschke (talk) 05:08, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You're telling me. If only North Dakota had the guts of anticipation to plan a future nickname change back like a couple of years ago or so, then things would be a bit different for the institution. That's how I feel or understand. jlog3000 (talk) 20:09, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting back to its old nickname 

message: There is no reason why the nickname stuff needs to be in the first paragraph of this article.--24.111.158.26 (talk) 01:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I would tend to disagree with you that it doesn't belong AT ALL in the lead, as UND's nickname (which is obviously used during ATHLETICS) was national news for more than two years. I would agree however, that the nickname issue shouldn't comprise over 90% of the lead as it does now. Do you have a suggested revision? Ckruschke (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article should be about athletics, not the nickname issue 

message: Several of the citation links go to a 404. The ones I tested are the ones linking to "B.R.I.D.G.E.S.", the others may be bad as well. 216.137.192.89 (talk) 21:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken citation links 

message: Now that a new nickname has been selected, is it time to move the controversy content to a new article, so that this could be only about UND athletics?
I would not want to clutter the main Native American mascot controversy with excessive detail about one school.FriendlyFred (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, that would be where I would suggest you move it. I'm not sure the UND content has enough on its own, or the larger notability, to be its own page. However, there are other pages that have much less content/notability. I guess I'm fine either way, but I definitely agree that it should be moved out of this page since it is no longer germane. Ckruschke (talk) 20:29, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: DoneFriendlyFred (talk) 21:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split of controversy section?