Talk:List of The Outer Limits episodes

message: Hi, folks.  I've just finished moving a number of these episodes from names like Beyond the Veil (episode) to Beyond the Veil (The Outer Limits), as recommended by the naming conventions guideline at WP:NC-TV.  The problem with using (episode) as a disambiguator is that sometimes different television series will use the same episode name — see the "television and film" examples at Awakening or Identity crisis for examples.  It's also worth remembering that you don't need to put any disambiguation on a title that's unique, like The Revelations of Becka Paulson.  This is also noted at WP:NC-TV, and is in keeping with general Wikipedia disambiguation guidelines at WP:DAB.  This is just a little clean-up and a friendly reminder. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode titles

message: The rationale for merging the 1963-1965 episode articles is nearly identical to that of the 1995-2002 ep articles, with the (some would say huge) difference that notability is not so much the problem (I only realize this now), but the shape of the articles - nearly all of them are sourced entirely from primary sources. When I restored the articles, I have therefore not tagged them for , but . It is now a matter of philosophy to keep article stub around for more-or-less notable subjects, or merge the plot summaries (nearly in full) to a list of episodes or a season list until someone wants to improve them the standard set by the TOL ep article The Galaxy Being (or Soldier (The Outer Limits) and Demon with a Glass Hand, although those lack the sources). I prefer the latter option, but I am not as adamant about this here than I am/would be for the 1995-2002 articles. – sgeureka t•c 12:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to close it as "No consensus (Keep)". As long as the notability tags stay in the articles that don't establish notability, I am fine with any motions. – sgeureka t•c 11:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Captain Infinity (talk) 00:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: All the merger tags need to be removed. travb (talk) 03:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless I missed any or someone re-added them, all the merger tags were removed from the 1963-65 episodes. --Captain Infinity (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirection ("merger") of 1963 to 1965 episodes 

message: The discussion about merging/deleting was finished, and result is clear (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Galaxy Being). Why did you started a new discussion?
This current discussion that you initiated is not about merging, — so as the episodes' summaries are still merged to this List of Episodes. The current question is about deleting the original articles. 
The reason of existing of individual articles of TOL episodes is not planning (or not planning) to work about them. The real reason is that there are some people who are glad to see these articles here. If you are not interested in The Outer Limits, or believe that these films has no any importance, — please edit some other articles, you are really interested in. Krasss (talk) 00:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Per discussions at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Archive_48#AfD_consensus_and_future_article_discussions, it is perfectly fine to immediately start merge discussions after AfDs that resulted in keep. Redirection is not deletion and never was because the page histories stay around. The opinion of TOL fans has no more weight than that of any other wikipedian, so my liking or not liking TOL is immaterial to this merge discussion (in fact, it could be argued that non-fans have less of a WP:COI than TOL fans and are more objective what's best). I have explained why I think merging is the best way to go, and now others should share why not merging is even better. WP:ILIKEIT has always been a poor reason to keep articles. – sgeureka t•c 00:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did you started a new discussion? 

message: Also, due to yours vandalism, many images that was used in the TOL episodes (see, for example,  from the article The Camp) were deleted as "non used images". So, what do you think, who now must re-create these images? Krasss (talk) 00:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:VANDALISM before accusing editors of vandalism. Feel free to ask an admin to restore the images (I don't have admin powers), but since the images failed WP:NFCC#8 anyway, I wouldn't bother.  – sgeureka t•c 00:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know that you're not an admin. You must note that removing of these images is one of direct results of your own "merging". Krasss (talk) 17:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About images 

message: This page (with summaries of all episodes) is too long. For this reason, I had created today two new pages:
* List of The Outer Limits (1963-1965) episodes
* List of The Outer Limits (1995-2002) episodes
So, I see a real reason to remove all summaries from the original List of episodes, and I am going to do it soon. If someone is against this transformations, please put your arguments here. I must know your position about this question. Krasss (talk) 11:58, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is too long 

message: If you are going to that, than *this* page needs to be a disambiguation page. I noticed the (silly) move to merge notice on a page, and came to the location it suggested merging, and not only found no information remotely like what was being suggested merged, and it took me looking in the discussion to find out that the merged data was being moved to a sub-sub-sub page. If you are going to duplicate the information on this page, as well as add in the useful information from the merged articles to that new page, this page is unneeded as anything other than a disambig page. 69.57.202.221 (talk) 20:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment 

message: There are already two separate articles here and here outlining episodes from both the original 1963 series and the 1995 revival series. This article simply repeats all the information that is already available there separately.
Seeing as I've just recently separated the original "The Outer Limits" article into two articles: "The Outer Limits (1963 TV series)" and "The Outer Limits (1995 TV series)", I think it would be appropriate for this article to be changed to a disambiguation page to outline the two separate episode list articles. I've already attempted to change this article to a disambiguation page here, but it was reverted by Krass here. What are opinions on how to go about this? Krass, I invite you to the discussion particularly. — \`CRAZY`(lN)`SANE`/ 04:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: CrazyInSane, please read first the section above, ("#This page is too long"). The two episode lists were created to move there all the plot summaries of episodes, - but they are still too long. For this reason, this list (without plot summaries) is useful too. Krasss (talk) 18:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to change this to a disambiguation page 

message: Please note - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Simon_Says_(The_Outer_Limits) </br>
- Krasss (talk) 14:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New attempts of the Deletionists