Talk:Shia view of the Sahabah

message: It has been proposed below that Shia ranking of the Sahaba be renamed and moved to Shia view of the Sahaba.
I oppose the proposal, the list is what its titled, a ranking of the sahaba. --Striver 13:22, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Striver, this is completely your POV and horrible.  "Shia view of the Sahaba" is useful because it can discuss the shia view of various sahaba -- we do not rank like this... that is completely unencyclopedic.  I have recommended its move because I believe it can be cleaned up it if it moved.  If it is not moved I am going to put it up for deletion and then we'll see what happens. gren グレン 13:33, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not my pov. Its the pov of all shia. Find me a single shia that contests it. Try with user:Khalid!, user:Zereshk, user:Ya Ali or any other shia you might find on WP, none of theme will have any objections. Further, i have received praise outside WP for this article. So before claiming its Striver pov, bring me a single shia that contests the article. Try any shia chat comunity and see if they object to anyting in the article. Man, this is typical, for every single shia pov article, we need a VFD for it --Striver 13:49, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't because it's Shia.  I am going to do the same for Sunni ranking of the Sahaba.  My problem isn't that it discusses each sect's POV, it's that you believe there can be a ranking.  They have different views but an unsourced litany or ranking them is preposterous and unencyclopedic.  The thing about encyclopedia is that sourcing is important, it is not about contradictory sources.  I believe that you have a vague representation of what Shias think about Muhammad's companions.  However, the laundry list style with rate your Sahaba is what I object to, that is where the original reserach comes in.  My official vote on VfD is going to be Move to Shia views of the Sahaba -- but it is flexible and I would like to know what others think.  gren グレン 19:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  proposed 

message: I found a list of sahaba, Talk:Shi'a view of the Sahaba/list here is a copy.--Striver 17:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: list

message: i have added a NPOV tag here because there are serious flaws in the tone of the article and when personalities are described, which is at times presented as outright villification and pushed forward as fact. other phrases need to be implemented which keep the villification to  the realms of accusations by the shi'ah or whoever. this may be a page for the shi'ite view of the sahaabah, but it is not a page for POV-pushing, propaganda, condemnation or indictment, so much of the article needs to be rephrased accordingly from "he did -accusation1- and did -accusation2-, and went here to do -accusation3-"  to "shi'a are thought to accuse him of doing such and such" or something similar. thanks ITAQALLAH 16:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct, the page needs some NPOV. --Striver 02:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  this is not a page to factualise accusations 

message: Someone added "Shia view of the Sunni view" to the sunni view of sahaba page, but did not add "Sunni view of shia view". Balance? Unflavoured 09:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting 

message: Can we expand the intro section (the paragraph(s) before the first heading), please? RJFJR (talk) 16:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand intro? 

message: Due to the continuous stream of totally uncited additions and deletions by anonymous users to this contentious page, I have indefinitely restricted edits to registered users only. Once the numerous issues with this page have been resolved, it should be safe to reopen to all editing. — Hex (❝?!❞) 17:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected 

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Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pending changes

message: I noticed that the section Abu Hurairah#Shi'a view is rather lengthy for a section that supposedly summarizes this article as the main article. Also, some material there doesn't seem to exist here. Would somebody knowledgeable about both topics perform an appropriate merging of that section to this article, so that section can serve as a reasonable summary of this article? ~Amatulić (talk) 18:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree: Abu Huraira was source of many Islamic reports, which are basis of many controversial Islam topics. So how Shia or Sunni view him should be present in the article.--Aliwiki (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge section from [[Abu Hurairah#Shi'a view]] to this article

message: There is only a single source in this article and I haven't even checked if it's reliable. The previous AfDs ended with an inconclusive result, and the second vote (which was keep), to be frank, was almost ten years ago and contains extremely weak arguments.
This list is pointless, as was Sunni view of the Sahaba. If there are indeed reliable sources on this topic, they can be added to the page on Sahabah and we can build from there. As of now, this article is pointless fluff. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:31, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirecting