Talk:Climate change

message: * C1, When the dust has settled on text content, convert the agreed prose to a scannable layout, decrease word count, restructure text to chronology of current, 2050 and 2100. Example based on a merge of A and B:
Uwappa (talk) 09:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Respectfully, 
I have learned the most truth about climate and the current climate change from Ben Davidson's https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers/featured
and 
Thunderbolts Project 
https://www.youtube.com/@ThunderboltsProject/playlists
They make the whole picture fit together better than average information sources.
With Respect
Eva Zdrava 46.248.93.31 (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, feel free to update the article once you have peer reviewed sources. 61.68.211.170 (talk) 04:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate change, historic weather cycles 

message: — Assignment last updated by LynSchwendy (talk) 03:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is unlikely to be a suitable article for students to edit. It is in any case locked for newbie editors. I guess you could make suggestions for improvements here on the talk page. But my advice to students would be to rather work on any of the many sub-articles, like effects of climate change on the water cycle. EMsmile (talk) 17:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: EEB 4611-Biogeochemical Processes-Spring 2024

message: Suggested change in text for the lead:
*Current: 
* January 21, 2021 Featured article review version: 
* My suggestion: 
No need for "is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels" in the current text since the next sentences in the lead already explain fossil fuels and greenhouse emissions parts. Bogazicili (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, science can't claim "unprecedented" over 4.5 billion years; since it's hard to qualify, it can be omitted. On the other hand, the fact that humans cause global warming by burning fossil fuels, underlies the relevance of the ensuing sentences that describe the greenhouse effect, and that causation fact should be retained. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why I suggested "unprecedented in a long time". Bogazicili (talk) 20:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: , updated my suggestion. Bogazicili (talk) 22:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, but "long time" is ambiguous—especially unsuitable for a science-related article. —RCraig09 (talk) 22:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbitrary break 

message: We must add the new information coming out from the International Labour Organization regarding the effect of climate change on labor, occupational safety and health, and the economy. Since I am a new editor to the page I wanted to give the courtesy of sharing that information first before jumping into any edits.
A report by the United Nations International Labour Organization released in April 2024 found that 22.85 million injuries and 18,970 fatalities in the workplace every year are linked to extreme heat exposure. [Source: Report found in PDF format on the webpage. Should consider archiving on web archive so that the text and pdf remain stable.]
By 2030, there will be an estimated 2.4 trillion USD financial loss due to heat-related illness, even if we limit the rate of warming to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels. Furthermore, by 2030, 80 million jobs will be lost due to high temperatures. [Source]
I believe these facts merit at least their own paragraph because of the specific impact climate change will have on laborers' health in the workplace and therefore on the economy as a whole, as opposed to the broad-based health impacts on human health. Aem832 (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for reaching out here. The issue is mentioned a couple times under the "Livelihoods and inequality" section. Feel free to edit but try to avoid projections and stick to core facts grounded in consensus science. For instance, a core fact is how many working hours will be lost per year due to heat stress. The extrapolations from that are best to avoid, such as job losses or heat stress deaths caused by people working when it is too hot to safely do so. You could easily argue for instance that work will instead become more limited and productivity will be lost so there will be more workers required. Focus on the core driving factor, not extrapolations from that fact. Extrapolations are often conjecture grounded in advocacy and imagine a world where other factors are held steady, such as working hours and technology and crop locations and so forth. A good place to put that sort of content is under Economic analysis of climate change. Efbrazil (talk) 16:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed change to "Livelihoods and inequality" subsection: new section or paragraph explicitly on economy/labor/occupational safety and health