Talk:Dasam Granth

message: This part of the article is lacking in citations and puts forth some pretty bold statements that definitely requires some backing up (specifically, I'm referring to "The Guru discovered that from reading the Ad Granth the Sikhs became feeble-hearted. Therefore (said the Guru), I myself will prepare such a Granth that the Sikhs from reading it will learn the art of ruling, the use of weapons, and other skills so that they will become fit for warfare; so from that very day he began the compositions of a huge volume, and when it was completed on Sunday, on the eighth day of the new moon in the month of Bhadon 1753 Bikrami (1696) he named it "The Granth of the Tenth Sovereign.").
For all I know, this information may have been derived from legitimate sources. But, the source should be made explicitly clear so people can verify it for themselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.135.31 (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Purpose of the Dasan Granth" section

message: This article in its [current version] makes extraordinary claims that the text called "Dasam Granth" or "Daven Padshah Da Granth" is entirely written by Sikh Guru Gobind Singh. This is POV propaganda of a certain group of people. There is no consensus on this issue among the historians. A deeper digging of the issue shows that renowned historians have expressed the view that only a small part of this text could have been written by Sikh Guru Gobind Singh. Furthermore, this text has no coherent content and is circulating in various different forms currently. Its wikipedia policy that "extra-ordinary" claims need extra-ordinary evidences to support them on wikipedia. That aside, this claim does not even has any verifiability. The Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee had issued "hukamnama" specifically stating that this text is not to be considered "holy" or "sacred" or placed at par with Guru Granth Sahib, therefore, its wrong to call it holy or sacred. The importance of the text is just for the sake of history and research at the present. Please do not make wikipedia a victim of your blind and baseless beliefs and do not try to generalize your POV as the belief of the entire Sikh population. If you disagree, feel free to discuss your points here. Regards, --RoadAhead Discuss 18:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extraordinary Claim 

message: One with the name of Daljit Singh was the first person to write against Bhai Mani Singh letter in 1991. Apart from Daljit Singh (who was not even a Sikh historian but a physician by profession) all Sikh historians support the letter. (Ref: http://www.santsipahi.org/patshahi10/bhai-mani-singh-letter-analysis-dr-harbhajan-singh.html)
This is not true. The first person to argue against the authenticity of the 'Bhai Mani Singh Letter' was Prof Rattan Singh Jaggi whose PhD thesis at Punjabi University Patiala was focused on the authorship of Dasam Granth during mid-sixties. This was later published in book form entitled 'Dasam Granth da Krititav' (Authorship of Dasam Granth). As an expert on the ancient Gurmukhi scripts he argued that:
1.Unlike the practice of writing sentences with no spaces between words the said letter had words separated as done at present.
2. The writing had been done using  a metallic nib that had been invented only during the first decade of the nineteenth century nealy a hundred years after the period claimed for the letter writing. Incidentally, metallic nib had been invented in Birmingham in England around 1805.
3. The shapes of Gurmukhi characters in the purported letter are closer to their modern shape than to that prevalent in early eithgteenth century.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anandpuria (talk • contribs) 14:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bhai Mani Singh Letter 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

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On 20 February, 2000, at Gobind Sadan, Virsa Singh released the first complete Punjabi translation of the writings of Guru Gobind Singh, plus other scholarly works about the life and teachings of Guru Gobind Singh. 
"Jaap Sahib" "Tawprasad Sawayeya" and "Kabiobach Bainty Chawpaye" are compulsory for reciting in nitnem of a Khalsa (baptised Sikh) every morning. These writings are also recited during Sikh baptism.
Problems:
# What is Gobind Sadan?
# Who is Virsa Singh? Why do we care what he does?
# "writings of Guru Gobind Singh"? How was this decided?
# What "other scholarly work"? Who decided the "scholarly" quality?
# Later part is redundant; already being mentioned in the first section. 
# There are no citations?
--Roadahead ★ 21:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The following is relocated from article 

message: I have just removed the following, thus emptying the External links section
* Read Dasam Granth Sahib & Translation Online
* Free Download pdf version of Dasam Granth Steek from Damdami Taksal
* The Granth of Guru Gobind Singh – The Granth of Guru Gobind Singh 
* Panjab Digital Library – Digitally preserving manuscripts of Dasam Granth
* Bachitter Natak – A Strange Drama
* Dasam Granth History – Daljeet Singh
* Compilation of Dasam Granth -A scientific Analysis
* Exegesis of compositions of Dasam granth – Sachkhoj Academy
I really couldn't care less which link we supply (apart from those linking to booksellers) but we do not need links to umpteen versions of similar material and this looks like spammed stuff. Please read WP:EL and gain consensus here for the inclusion of just one appropriate link. - Sitush (talk) 09:04, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with External links 

message: The structure section is mainly unsourced and is making claims with no evidence. It also includes writings found in no varient of Dasam Granth. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 00:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up required 

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