Talk:Brad Boyd

message: It's a matter of public record that the Fitzroy Football Club still plays in its own right, albeit not in the AFL - now in the VAFA - and is not a part of the Brisbane Lions. Hence any claim that Fitzroy no longer competes as a club and somehow merged with Brisbane is not true and shouldn't be posted as such in Wikipedia articles like this one.
What is true is that Brisbane took over the AFL operations. As detailed by Fitzroy on the club's website (http://www.fitzroyfc.com.au), and within Wikipedia itself for a long time now in the entry about the Fitzroy Football Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzroy_Football_Club). And both the club website and that Wikipedia entry clearly show that Fitzroy still exist and compete as a club on the field.
Since Fitzroy obviously still exist as a club, both on and off the field, it is simply false to claim that 1996 was the club's last season, and false, for instance, to say that Boyd was the club's last captain. So I've corrected these points.
121.210.232.42 (talk) 13:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fitzroy Football Club article says there was a "merger of its AFL playing operations". You don't seem to object to that wording or else you'd have changed it. There's nothing factually incorrect in saying they "merged". The exact details of the merge are irrelevant on an article about a player. In fact, 420 articles on the official AFL website refer to it as a merger.. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 20:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly."This merger of the club operations of Fitzroy and the Brisbane Bears at the AFL level, formed the Brisbane Lions" sums it up.. calling it a merger when minutiae isn't required is reasonable. Seems more reasonable than denying any Fitzroy involvement in the Lions' formation. 58.96.125.138 (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

text: If the AFL, Brisbane Lions and almost single source that talks about the formation of the Lions refer to it as a merger, then so should we. No one is denying that Fitzroy still exist as a club, but almost every source says simply that there was a merger (not specifying AFL Operations) which demonstrates that it is accepted terminology. I'm going to again revert back to the original version of this page, before this dispute, if you want to take this further I'd suggest the best way forward would be to request community input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian rules football. Or if you want a third opinion from someone not involved in AFL editing, you can go to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests/Third Opinion. Reverting won't get you anywhere. Also, in case there is any confusion, I'd just like to clarify that IP 58 isn't me. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 07:16, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

text: "Brad Boyd was the last captain" If you say, "That's only in the AFL", then you are getting a handle on it.
Are you seriously asserting that because various pages on the Web used the word 'merger' about what happened in 1996, that somehow alters our status as an independent club at Brunswick St Oval, and changes who our captain is?
Such argument about articles on the Brisbane website or articles on Google otherwise, is completely irrelevant. The physical and legal reality is clear.
This is about protecting our identity, and as a Fitzroy member, I know I speak for all of us when I say our identity is paramount. It's painful enough to remember how we lost our place in the AFL, after more than a decade of struggle against continued and deliberate whiteanting by Oakley, Samuel, Collins and co - as spelt out, for instance, in the book written by Dyson Hore-Lacy, our President at the time.
Aside from our needing to fight over and over again to ensure the terms of that 1996 agreement have been met by Brisbane - they've successfully managed to weaken their obligations to us in a number of ways over this time. And we've obviously also had to deal continuously with misstatement and misrepresentation about our status ever since 1996.
I'd really appreciate it if you'd just let the facts stand. Or otherwise, if you still dispute this, as I said, contact the club and ask them directly.
121.210.232.42 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 14:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

text: I've made it clear what you need to do. Jevansen (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
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