Template talk:WWIIGermanInfWeapons

message: It was clear to me when I added the Sauer 38H and the Mauser HSC that weapons on this list were German made weapons. Germany was notorious for using dozens of foreign-made weapons in their own army as an expedient to home-production including such weapons as the CZ vz.24 and the FN Browning HiPower. A comprehensive list would include these and the many other weapons produced under Nazi occupation.
I believe this would be far beyound the scope of this template and, as such, none of these ancillary weapons should be included. They are of importance and should perhaps be listed along with a cross-reference to their German designations, etc.  I do, however, feel that listing it under this template would result in a mind-numbing variety of captured, occupation-produced, experimental, and commercial weapons that were all, at one time, used by German infantry units.--Asams10 23:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Vz.24 is different then the numerous other firearms used, due especially to the level of use and to a lesser extent the nature of the Vz. The Vz certainly saw greater use then a number of the german-made weapons among the infantry, as well as the great majority of forgeign used firearms. Firearms that were produced for germany, as well as being used heavily are worth putting in the template because they are representative of german infantry weapons. If the template is to be representative of weapons actually used by german infantry, that it should not be excluded. Certainly, we can add a link the longer list of firearms, a great majority of which do not need to be linked to on the template.  Ve3 00:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I think level use is a good distinction, and stops it becoming a 'laundry list' of weapons as you suggest. What is important is that it is reprentative of the major firearms used by the heer, which would include the VZ. If its going to be restricted to german produced weapons then it would have to be re-labeled, but that does not make it very usefull for understanding what was actually used by the infantry. Another template could be made for all the lesser used weapons, or some other category. However, if non german designed weapons weapons notably used by the infantry are excluded then it is similarly incomplete and arbitrary as the reverse situation.  Ve3 00:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Look we can restrict to only german designed weapons but then it weill include weapons that german infantry hardly touched, yet exclude non-german weapons used notably. If a second template is made this has the reverse problem yet is just as flawed. The solution is to keep the template limited to notably used weapons.  Ve3 01:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The template was "German infantry weapons", not "German weapons". It is misleading to exclude weapons that were used heavily by the german infanty, regardless of the origin. Your complaint that it will become indiscriminate, if other types are included is only true if level of use is NOT taken to account, which is not what I am suggesting.  THe 1903 was not used significantly by germans, nor where any ordered for prouduction. HOwever, the Vz's were not only captured, but also ordered for production and eqipped many divisions. It may have been a derivative, but there are differences, and this true of other weapons on the template (say the MG 08). Including weapons by level use is representative of German infantry weapons, and is not indiscriminate. Ve3 18:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapons to include

message: Hey,
I would suggest adding the different cartridges (9mm Luger, 7.92x57mm, etc.) used by the German army in WWII in addition to the weapons used.
--RavenStorm 03:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Catridges are not weapons! That was a very bad idea, which was copied in multiple other language versions of wikipedia. --Ｔｏｍ (talk) 09:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  German cartridges of WWII? 

message: Should the MG-13 be added or maybe replacing the mg-08 Crested Penguin 10:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Machine guns

message: I've changed the "Grenades" section to "Grenades and mines" as the mines selected were often used in a personal anti-tank role and I felt they merited inclusion. The Sanctuary Sparrow 06:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mines