Talk:Javakheti

message: And why do you think that Greater Armenia (political concept) should not be included in this page? Also take a look at WP:OWN VartanM (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gegelia has never requested adding it to the article, imo. Steelmate, do you really find adding links to the irredentist concepts to this article so helpful? I don't think that it really helps to improve the article itself or adds anything good to Armeno-Georgian relations. --KoberTalk 05:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't about relation between nations, it is about facts. The link in See Also is helpful to find related fact in Wikipedia, as long as it is helpful it is worth having it there. If Gegelia has any objection let it be heard here on talk page. Steelmate (talk) 05:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Vartan, with respect to all my Armenian friends, of course you can include it, especially now, but please, be kind, be realistic, do not act in traditional way with big words like GREATER ARMENIA, just take a normal note... p.s. I've made some cleanups regarding incompetent information and national-addicted unreal sources that pull readers of the two nations to confrontation, the time will come. I can say, see, watch, hang on and tell that nobody pushes Armenians in here (that was said in previous version, it's nonsense and arrogance that kills me, NO!), especially my friends :) . With respect, GioMac (talk) 19:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Greater Armenia

message: There is nothing said about ethnic cleansing of Muslim Georgians ( Javakhs )in Javakheti in the 19th century after Russians came.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.73.160.100 (talk) 11:21, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethic cleansing of the Javakhs 

message: The line, According to the context, we are talking here about different Caucasian tribes, and it is entirely obvious that the historian does not consider the Gugars to be an Armenian tribe under the '5th reference' seems inaccurate. Is it from a translit-titled commentary "Istoria Armenii Favstosa Buzanda" of an unknown author? I don't think so.  There are sources on the web telling that there is a 1912 publication of the work in Tbilisi, but nothing about Faustus's 1913 publication. So I'll make proper edits. 46.241.130.16 (talk) 18:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research? 

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message: Please instead or revert write down your arguments why it should be used as equal to Georgian name? When it is definitely not a WP:commonname --g. balaxaZe★ 18:44, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Turnless as I've recommended stop edit-warring and write down your arguments here and only after that if we reach consensus make changes.--g. balaxaZe★ 19:27, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You were the one who removed the information, so I don't see why you re-installed it to the article by edit warring despite the sources provded by . We have both already stated our arguments in the edit descriptions. It also is in fact WP:commonname as most of the region's population is Armenian and that is what they would refer the name to. Your mention of WP:commonname here is also quite odd as that is the policy that you did not want to follow on South Ossetia. --Turnless (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what to answer, you are showing that you do not understand wikipedia policies, common for Armenians doesn't make it common name in English speaking world, and Yerevantsi provided sources that just prove that it is Armenian-used name and nothing more, I know and agree with the sources that Armenians use that name but here ends the weight of the sources nothing else.--g. balaxaZe★ 19:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The local region name is relevant to the article and does make it a common one. Because of the fact that Armenians do comprise the majority of the region, the Armenian name for the region is common in the English language as well. However, it is less of an issue with common name as it is of relevancy to Armenia and Armenians, making the name obviously relevant as well. Your removal of the transliteration of the Armenian name also only leaves the translation to Armenian which is pretty dubious on an English Wikipedia as that does not help readers to understand how the name is pronounced in the language.  --Turnless (talk) 19:54, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It will not become common name just because you want to see it like that. I was editing what was wrong, as a consensus we could put translation of the Armenian name but you preferred reports.--g. balaxaZe★ 20:06, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why you put the same comment here and on my talk page. My response was "It is not a common name just because I "want to see it like that".  provided sources which back the use of the name. You asked to reach a consensus after you continued to revert to your edits despite the fact that you were the one who removed the information already present in the article before. I warned you that if youcontinue to do so, you will be reported, which is what I have done." --Turnless (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your revert of my edit was controversial and yes I wanted to make that change only after consensus but you were only reverting without any attempt of consensus, Yerevantsi's sources only prove that the name is Armenian used but not why we should bold it, show it as common in English speaking world.--g. balaxaZe★ 20:27, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It was controversial to you only, it was backed by sources and was present on the article prior to your removal. If you wanted really wanted to make the change after the consensus you wouldn't have continued to revert, which you did. As I have already explained, the majority of the region is Armenian, so the Armenian name should be included as it is very relevant. Because of the fact that the Armenian name is different from the Georgian, it is bolded in English. This is why you should not remove it. --Turnless (talk) 20:32, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The one who first reverted someone's edit it was you, don't try to fool people, you had not single source when reverted my edit, it needed only an explanation why you wanted to promote that name as common and to prove your changes rightness but you didn't provided and didn't try to reach consensus as well.--g. balaxaZe★ 20:40, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not fooling anyone, you were the one who started this issue by removing valid information from the article, without even an edit description, here - . You were the one who tried to change the article so instead of edit warring and pushing for your preferred edits, you should have reached a consensus first, but instead you continued to edit war and revert back to your changes. You did start a discussion, but only after reverting, and even then you continued to edit war to leave your preferred change as the one in place. --Turnless (talk) 20:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I could be reverter if I have reverted someone's edit but I didn't, and there is a question how you saw that I've edited this article since you had no single edit before. It makes me think that you are :WP:HOUNDING me.--g. balaxaZe★ 21:11, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: First you removed the information and then your reverted 4 times after that. I noticed this after looking at your contributions after the issue on the South Ossetia page, plus we already had two ongoing discussions that you abandoned. --Turnless (talk) 21:33, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Well some people have other things to do except Wikipedia, can you link what two discussions am I "abandoned"? Btw you made 3 same reverts, I also made reverts but there were not 4 similar reverts since I made compromise (not revert) after Yerevantsi, will be better if you edit and contribute wit good faith.--g. balaxaZe★ 21:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Btw you had no single edit in South Ossetia article as well. I think still :WP:HOUNDING. --g. balaxaZe★ 21:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolding of Armenian name 

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