Talk:Taichung

message: I came to this page after months of absence and saw numerous unsupportable opinions by some person who obviously has something against the City of Taichung.  I am once again in the process of fixing up this article with facts, and devoid of opinion.  If someone comes in here and begins inserting unsubstantiated opinion again, they WILL be reported!
Michael Turton: There's a rumor running around that I am responsible for the negative tone of this page. I had nothing to do with the creation or maintenance of this page. In the future I hope to edit it up to a more reasonable standard, and include plenty of pictures. -- Michael
Ludahai:  Michael, I don't know who did what, and I frankly don't care.  I would love to have help in making this a world class page.  I have several friends of mine who are Taiwanese, local Taichung residents, who are helping me gather information for this page.  Any positives contributions are appreciated. - Tuesday, October 3 7:00 (Taiwan time)
This article is pretty cranky in tone still. I can see that it's getting better. I've visited Taizhong a few times and it is a pretty neat place, not nearly as drab/bland/awful as this article might make you think. The transportation system section was pretty funny a while back - quite true, but someone with a major chip on their shoulder about Taiwan in general wrote it (buxiban teacher?)... Keep up the good work in cleaning this up... Aep 16:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's keep this objective 

message: As noted before, I am working on bringing this page up to Wikipedia Cities Project Standards.
Here is a summary of edits made on September 29, 2006.
1.	Delete the two sentences about geography in the introduction, and move to the new section on geography.
2.	Put in sources for the symbols.
3.	Reduce “Districts” to a subsection within the new “Geography” section.
4.	Edit tree, add link  
5.	Edit flower, add link  
6.	Add link to bird:  
7.	Add Geography section
8.	Edited population to reflect figure given on the Taichung city website
9.	Edit Sister Cities section
10.	Edit capital to eliminate abbreviation
11.	Mention adoption of HanYu Pinyin in the intruduction with reference
Please do not sabotage my efforts.
Someone came on again and sabotaged the entry with unsourced information.  How can I ask for this entry to be restricted to editing by registered users?  == Ludahai (10/3/06  14:17 UTC)
References section has been added and will grow as more book references are referred to in the development of this page.  Ludahai 23:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ongoing Editing 

message: I live in downtown Taichung.  Nearly ALL major and many minor intersections have English signage on them.  This anonomous person who keeps posting otherwise had better come up with a source for this.  == (Ludahai 10/3/06 14:28 UTC)
::I'm not that user, but in my personal experience that Romanization in Taizhong is pretty hit-and-miss, especially compared to Tainan, Gaoxiong, Jilong, etc. Even Gangshan does a better job than TZ. Maybe it's just that I notice all of the omissions? I dunno Aep 17:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inner City Intersections 

message: Who are you?  You have made no comments in here, and no justification for removing accurate information I have recently added.  If you don't come in here to justify your inaccurate statements, I will be forced to bring this to the next level.  You are not a registered user.  Please come out of hiding. ==Ludahai (10/3/06  14:36 UTC)
I live in Taichung and I just looked at some of the edits.  Ludahai's edits are generally pretty accurate about our city.  Let him complete the site, or make comments in here.  Do not ruin the work he is doing on this page.  (民國95-10-4  AM10:23)
Please stop your vandalism.  Ludahai 06:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  220.132.217.171 - Show yourself 

message: This is a work in progress, but many major events in Taichung's history are presented.  I am currently sifting through a couple of Chinese language sources I just came upon to present more information.  What I will likely do is create a main entry for Taichung's History, and leave the highlights on this cite.  Some of the information from from before was left, but it needs citation.  The reference to "Little Las Vegas" is false information.  I have talked to dozens of people in the past week, and not one of them has ever heard of Taichung referred to as Little Las Vegas.
There is also some formatting problems with the sources.  I will try to fix those up later, through if someone can do that for me, I would appreciate it.  == Ludahai (10/4/06  00:40 UTC)
Another unregistered user has come on to completely misrepresent the history on this page.  I am going to ask editing to be blocked to non-registered users.  Ludahai 01:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Section 

message: I am creating this topic for comments on how to finish bringing this article up to WikiProject Cities standards.  Ludahai 03:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! Great work with this; my initial impression is that this page is really coming together. I haven't had a chance to fully read it all, as I'm at work, but one thing that jumps out at me right away is the international airport section. In my opinion this should really be on its own page. Mention the airport but link to an airport article. A good airport article is Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. I'll give the page a full read later and let you know what else needs done, but this looks fantastic so far. Nach0king 08:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for all of the comments.  I am currently working on the affiliated articles, which will then allow me to cut some off of the main Taichung article.  I will also clean it up and introduce more sources once I have done that.  I am currently working on the temples and education articles.  Transportation and History will be next - and less problematic.  Ludahai 10:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Cities discussion 

message: Hi Ludahai, just added some templates to decrease article length. For examples of city articles see featured articles of places, though even these have differences in quality/structure. Best regards, Brz7 11:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article length

message: Hi Ludahai,
I am responding to the message for review you left on my talk page.  I only quickly scanned the article, I'll read it more completely later, but here are a few simple sugguests.  
*If you could use the standard infobox (Template:Infobox city) that would be great.  
*A couple of the metric units need their imperial counterparts.  
*Do you have any type of citation concerning the part about the speed limits being optional and stop signs being suggestions?  I know that you live there and you probably see it everyday, but a citation like a newspaper article would be nice (or required).
From what I seen it looks good so far. —MJCdetroit 12:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox, units, and citations

message: 1.  I don't think this article is ready for feature status yet.  There is still too much work to do.
2.  I need to look at more Chinese language sources, but Chinese is not my native language, so that will take me some time.
3.  I will work on the suggested articles that others have posted, as well as an in depth article on temples.  There are a large number of them in the city.
4.  I will get to work on many of these items next week.
Thanks.  Ludahai 00:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thanks

message: Sorry I'm late, Ludahai. From what I can see, you and your colleagues primarily contributing to this article have done a pretty decent job. My only real concerns lie in regards to this formatting of images and the lack of linked articles to Taichung related information. 
First off, the linking, I see a lot of links heading sections for education, history, etc., but they all seem to be non-existent articles as of now. The formatting for the manual fits with the links, but without articles to link to it seems to defeat it's purpose. 
Second, the image formatting is cluttered and lacks good form, spacing, etc. For example, the crowding in "Japanese Colonial Era", where there are other very good spots to put the images you've got... And to me, it looks like you've got all your pics on the right side of the page generally. There's a couple problems you could work out, like the lack of external links, and the images/linking issue I just noted. 
Besides that, this article looks pretty decent, as I earlier remarked. I agree with MJCdetroit on the citation issue, but like I said, there are just a few little issues that could be fixed in an edit or two that would improve the article a lot. Thanks for requesting my help! It's not to often a guy from Denver gets to talk about Taichung. Have a good one. Editor19841 (talk) 23:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for all of the comments.  I am currently working on the affiliated articles, which will then allow me to cut some off of the main Taichung article.  I will also clean it up and introduce more sources once I have done that.  I am currently working on the temples and education articles.  Transportation and History will be next - and less problematic.  Ludahai 10:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taichung-related articles/imagery

message: Dear Ludahai, Taichung was called Taichu (Taichū in proper romaji) during the Japanese Colonial Era. I don't see any conflict. A similar issue might be that modern-day Kaohsiung was renamed from Takau (打狗) to Takao (高雄) during the same era. Oniows 13:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taichu vs Taichung 

message: Taichung City formally adopted Hanyu pinyin two years ago.  Someone deleted my reference to that fact. Ludahai 08:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is in print publications locally.  I have not seen it online.  Print verification is enough.  Furthermore, the municipal website and all new signs put up by the local government use Hanyu pinyin.  Personally, I prefer Tongyong pinyin, but as this is what Taichung currently uses, this is what should be reflected on Wikipedia.  ludahai 魯大海 00:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hanyu Pinyin 

message: I can't believe the childishness of some people on here.  This used to have Good Article status and I was trying to elevate it even higher.  Childish antics have resulted in its being downgraded.  ludahai 魯大海 13:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop the vandalism 

message: Is the aboriginal revolt mentioned in the "Early History of Taichung" section the same as the Ta-Chia-hsi revolt? --Ling.Nut 17:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is.  ludahai 魯大海 23:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ta-Chia-hsi revolt]]...? 

message: Too listy.  Many redlinks.  Poor writing ("Taichung is rarely severely affected by typhoons, except once it was terribly inflicted by Wayne Typhoon in 1986 which landed Taiwan from the west coast near Taichung.").  Too many pictures, including three that cover both the right and left sides of the text.  Most content seems to be taken from tourist brochures.  --Ideogram 06:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA failed 

message: Attempts to draw a realistic picture of Taichung and it's environment do not suit the ROC officials controlling Taiwan, thus this article will continue to be filled with one sided bullshit.
Let's try to make some honest observations that are balanced and accurate.
We can start by putting back information about pollution, traffic related causualties and crime. We might also add a section about discrimination by the ROC on Taiwan against anyone who is not an ROC citizen under the the ROC racist definitions. Taichung seems to be the epicenter of this discrimination.
:If you can't source any of this claptrap, you can't put it in.  No Original Research.  Also, it is all BS.  What racist definitions are you talking about?  Taichung's environment is MUCH better today than it was five years ago.  ALso, other stats you are talking about are NATION-WIDE and do not belong in an article about the city.  Remember, if you make such statements, you need to back them up.  ludahai 魯大海 14:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: (Untitled)

message: Taichung has a well deserved reputation as a centre of higher education, let the education section just lists the number of institutions, not their names. Was this done intentionally ? I'd be happy to edit away but if it's been done before and just got edited back for some reason I won't bother
Panamajack (talk) 03:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schools ...  

message: It'd be nice to have a sub-division map, like the one in Tainan, under the section Districts.--Jerrch 19:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: As we see in Talk:Tainan, there is no legal basis for the inner/outer distinction. Please remove it forthwith. See also . Jidanni (talk) 04:41, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bogus Inner/Outer districts 

message: cf. http://www.dezeen.com/2009/09/25/taichung-convention-center-by-mad
that's an existing building, isn't' it? It's brilliant.  Brilliantly missing in wikipedia? Who can add some lines.  I couldn't find the website to the Convention Centre.--SvenAERTS (talk) 15:10, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convention Centre, Taichung, Taiwan ? 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Kaohsiung which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 20:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: I've read over the Economy section of this page, and found it to be overly biased.
Please make improvements to the section.
Thank you!
Kaob1 (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy Section Bias Concern 

message: This site needs updating in places, e.g., " is scheduled to begin in October 2009" ! 64.53.191.77 (talk) 19:46, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of date 

message: Per WP:LEAD, the lead section should serve "as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents." Currently, this section consists of 2 sentences: one clarifying its administrative division and approximate geographic location, and the other mentioning the 2010 merger with Taichung County.
Fortunately, the article covers a whole lot about Taichung (history, geography, demographics, politics, culture, transportation, etc.). Unfortunately, it's not summarized at all in the lead section. I'm putting this on my to-do list, but if anyone is interested in expanding this section, I'm sure future readers of this article would greatly appreciate it. Multivariable (talk) 08:35, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion of lead section 

message: Place any comments here.  White Whirlwind  咨  08:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Chinese discussion 

message: I am reverting  because:
#According to the Empire of Japan section of this article, the city was not created under Japanese rule; it predates Japanese rule and the Japanese "sought to develop it."
#The "Kyoto of Formosa" claim is unsourced. If a WP:reliable source can be found, this information belongs in the Empire of Japan section instead of the lede.
Phlar (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent additions to the lede 

message: Hi fellow Wikipedians,
Regarding my most recent edit: yeah, that was a lot of deleting, but I feel like it's justified. Here's why:
*Pictures: we really don't need 4 skyline photos from different viewpoints. One is enough. Same goes for the temples, though for that I put it in a gallery just in case. That being said, the right hand side of the page still looks really clogged up with pictures, and more should probably be removed.
*Roads: I condensed this bit a lot. See WP:IINFO. We really don't need to know which roads go where. Also, I felt like the part about Taichung's reckless driving is not from a neutral point of view and has been unsourced for a while, so I removed that.
*Small descriptions of districts under the map: not really notable for Wikipedia either. 
I also tried fixing up the grammar a bit, but the flow of the article is still not the best. If someone can go over and improve that, it would be awesome. 
If you have any concerns please just ask me. Thanks! Ganbaruby (talk) 15:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  My most recent edit 

message: Can we please create an article about Lishan, perhaps translated from this article at the Chinese-language Wikipedia?  https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A2%A8%E5%B1%B1
173.88.246.138 (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely. I'm busy right now, but I can work on it in a few days. ◢    Ganbaruby!   (talk to me) 23:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Can we create article on Lishan?

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Winter has some cool days and nights. 
so I wouldn’t say it borders Tropical monsoon  דולב חולב (talk) 00:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate