Talk:Central American Spanish

message: This article is nowhere near complete.  I have stolen the format from the Mexican Spanish Article.  Right now it is just a collection of tid-bits, things that I know from my own experience.  But hopefully this will get the ball rolling.
Orginally, on the list of local variations of Spanish, each state was listed.  However, I figured that since central america is smaller, and possibly less linguistically diverse than Mexico, and since no one had written a single article about any of the coutries, I should change the format to a single article on Central American Spanish.  When this article starts to look like something, move this comment to the comments section please. —preceding unsigned comment by Jackiemenderchuk (talk • contribs) 04:16, December 3, 2005
There is a very small article in spanish on central american spanish.  I have translated the parts that I was sure I understood and agreed with.  There are a few pieces that I left in Spanish some one else to sort out.
This article is a mess and full of lies, Panama speaks Caribbean Spanish and Costa Rican Spanish is closer to Colombian Spanish than the Central American. Guatemalan Spanish and El Salvador are the only ones with strong mexican influence.
Voseo is strong in Costa Rica and Nicaragua only, Guatemalan use 'vos' like costa ricans use mae or nicaraguans maje. (dude)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.110.53 (talk) 16:03, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Note: I'm a native speaker but I've never talked to a gal/guy from one of these countries.
#Why Panama is not included? Is is because it is not a sovereign country <grin>? Or because its dialect are too close to Colombia's?
#Why Belize is not included? There is a significant population that speaks Spanish, even as their mother tongue.
#I believe that fragmented is not an adequate word for Arg, Mx or Col. See dialect continuum
#'r' as in English...an alveolar approximant, certainly, or, maybe, an alveolar flap or a retroflex flap?
#Do they spell aborrotería or, perhaps, abarrotería ?
#Agua is standard Spanish for water, everywhere (just google agua site:.gt). Of course, it may also mean soft drink. In Chile, agüita is any infusion.
User:Ejrrjs  says What? 14:20, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Several questions

message: I lived in ES for seven years and Guate for three, so that's my source of expertise.
1. In ES, the word "gaseosa" is used for soda. In Guatemala, it's "agua." If you want water, you have to ask for "agua pura."
2. There are nicknames for all of the Central Americans. I'm not sure if these are used throughout the isthmus, and everyone's got a different story as to their origin:
Salvadorans: guanacos
Guatemalas: chapines
Honduras: catrachos
Nicaraguans: chochos (I think)
Costa Ricans: ticos
3. I see on the CA slang page in Spanish you have the word "coger" for both CA and Spain as "to get," but in Central America it means "to have sexual relations with," so you want to avoid it. As you show for ES, one word for pig is "cuche"; however, in Guatemala, it's "coche," which also means "car." So I met Spaniards who would say, "Voy a coger el coche," meaning they were going to go get the car, but it had a totally different meaning for the chapines who would be rolling on the floor...
** Just wanted to clear something up, Nicaraguans are not referred to as 'chochos' that is considered an insult, 'chocho' means dog/s. Nicaraguans are know as "Nicas", "Nicoyas" and "Pinoleros". LaNicoya 09:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Some miscellanea

message: Disclaimer: I do not claim to be an expert (and would aspire to be a novice) on this topic.
I was in Guatemala (Guatemala City, Flores, Antigua, and Santiago Atítlan), and saw many Tiendas, and few (if any) Abarroterías. Is the use of Abarrotería in Guatemala found in speach, while Tienda is used on signs? Srice13 01:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Guatemala: Abarrotería vs. Tienda

message: Mae or maje is used colloquially in Costa Rica and Honduras as second person when addressing someone close. This isnt exactly correct, its more like the UK word mate or just inserted in a sentence but it isnt a replacement for vos, tu or usted, SqueakBox 16:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully concur. Costa Ricans end up making the same argument for gallo pinto, that is, that they "made the dish themselves." Although CR has a lexicon similar to Colombian Spanish (I don't agree with the Venezuelan part, given that the S is often cut just as it is in other Latin American countries), a similar Spanish sounding population co-exists in Rivas and the Rio San Juan regions of Nicaragua. I'm not so sure you can apply the "low wage workers" scenario to this, since, in theory, you argue that the vocabulary and dialect are singularly of Costa Rican origin and it would be staying there, wheras it seems to contradict your theory based in the aforementioned example provided. It's like the word valija. Some would argue that it's only found in Argentina or the Rio de Plata region in South America due to the large influx of Italian immigrants to the region and Chile (the word is valigia in Italian). However, the word valija is also present in Nicaraguan Spanish, and there hasn't been a large influx of people coming in from either regions to Nicaragua. I believe its safe to say that the language has its own ways of working out in various countries. IE: You say regio (meaning awesome or really good) in Costa Rica no one understands you; saying Nica in Nicaragua (referring to the people) or saying Nica in El Salvador which is more of an insult. I've used the word Mae around certain Central American groups who have understood, but the opposite occured with my conversation with a Costa Rican friend of mine, who said he had "no idea what the word referred to." But then again, he is Costa Rican American. I guess he wasn't taught it? Who knows. But I'm not completely sure your argument has 100% accuracy overall. Mbhskid520 (talk) 10:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Maje or mae

message: This article is in need of expert verification, especially for the Phonetics/phonology section and Syntax, I wish we can get this article to resemble the one in the Spanish version of Wikipedia Gtrojan 03:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have put on this article the Template:Unreferenced. I'm a native speaker of Spanish, and I reviewed the article in the Spanish Wikipedia (I'm also a Spanish Wikipedia user). Unfortunately, the Spanish article does not cite any references too; by this reason, we can't get any verifiable content from that. If some of you speaks Spanish, I recomend the Diccionario Panhispánico de dudas, articles "Voseo" and "Seseo" as a reference, in order to improve this article. —André Oliva (talk) 00:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I am not a native speaker but I do have some knowledge of Central American Spanish. Thanks, SqueakBox 16:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Expert help

message: Dear User:SqueakBox:
*The link you used as a reference (Voces del mundo) is not referred to Spanish in the specific case of Central America. I recomend you the Diccionario Panhispánico de dudas.
*I think you should add more details in your reference "Lonely Planet Guide to Central America"
*You need a reference for the text you added: "In Honduras and El Salvador money is called pisto, a term originally used by Maya peoples in Guatemala but considered archaic there."
*You deleted the Template:citation needed in the begining of the article. Some sources, for example the Spanish Encyclopedia Autodidáctica Interactiva Océano, 2nd book, section "Idioma Español" ("Spanish Language") considers the Spanish spoken in Panama as part of Caribbean Spanish variant.
—André Oliva (talk) 01:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I'll see what I can do but I didn't understand what the first cite was requesting. We don't need to cite here that Central America is these countries or that these countries speak Spanish so I need to get a handle on what is being requested in this particular case (I had no issue with any of the other cite requests). Thanks, SqueakBox 01:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Latest

message: I always had the impression that "vos" is the dominate second-person singular pronoun in Costa Rica. Could anyone verify that?70.112.242.125 (talk)Vuestra Merced (5 March, 2011)
Costa Ricans mostly use usted and vos, usted as a respect treatment and vos with close friends and family.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.110.53 (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vos in Costa Rica 

message: The Dominican Republic and Spain is marked with red, but no explanation is given for what this means. --Oddeivind (talk) 11:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It must be a mistake, they should be green. By they way, there are other mistakes in the map, I'll replace it. --Jotamar (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colours in the map. 

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message: What specifically is Central American about the Spanish used on the low-res image of the shopfront in Honduras? (If you know the answer, please also mention it at commons:File_talk:Hn1.JPG since the file is hosted over there.) Beorhtwulf (talk) 20:55, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The poster uses pedí, which is a Vos imperative form. --Jotamar (talk) 16:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we are looking at different images. I see pedí in :File:Pedi Voseo El Salvador.jpg but not :File:Hn1.JPG. Beorhtwulf (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. In that image, apparently nothing dialectal. --Jotamar (talk) 16:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honduran shopfront