Talk:John Kiriakou

message: Almost all of our articles place references at the end of the relative sentence.  Someone has moved some of the references in this article into the middle of sentences.  Some academic journals have their own style guides, that request this style of reference placement.  But, even in the academic world, it is a minority style.
Personally I find this style of reference placement jarring to read.
I resisted changing the reference placement to an easier to read style following the principle of not cluttering up the contribution history with merely cosmetic changes.  But I'd welcome other's opinions on making an exception to that principle here.  Geo Swan (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Nonstandard reference placement?

message: Some of the references in this article have been unnecessarily rewritten.  Our style guides don't state whether contributors should use the one field per line when using  templates, or whether we should place the entire template on a single line.  Personally, I prefer the former, but I don't rewrite templates in my preferred style, because rewriting metadata for esthetic reasons makes for misleading diffs, that appear to show massive changes when there has been little to no change to the article's actual content.
I request those who favor other styles show the same courtesy, and refrain from rewriting references I left in their favorite style.
I restored some references to their original style.  Geo Swan (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Please don't unnecessarily rewrite references in your favorite style...

message: There are a few places in this article that state Kiriakou "acknowledged that he was not present during Abu Zubaydah's interrogations", and that he was "only to later acknowledge he had no first hand [sic] knowledge" of waterboarding.
This language leaves the impression that Kiriakou initially stated or suggested that he was present during the waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah. However, in his very first interview with ABC News, he explicitly states that he moved on to another job and that others were sent in to use "enhanced techniques":
:JOHN:  
:We had a group of folks-- at the agency who were  
:trained in-- what had been reported in the press,  
:we called enhanced techniques. I came back to  
:the-- to the United States to headquarters to  
:move onto a different job. But we had these  
:trained interrogators who were sent to his  
:location-- to use the enhanced techniques as  
:necessary to get him to open up-- and to report  
:some threat information. 
ABC News Transcript, page 15
DRE (talk) 21:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing tendentious references to Kiriakou's acknowledgement that he was not a first-hand witness to waterboarding

message: I learned of John Kiriakou by accident through reading about federal prison conditions.  I was surprised to find that nothing about his troubles in prison, nor his letters about them are recorded here.  While I don't have enough information to mark a new section, nor am I sure it's appropriate, I can point to this letter written February 2014 about correctional officers in his prison attempting to censor him.
I'll add more if/when I find it - but I feel like this is important.  Navarr (talk) 00:19, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of John's Work Detailing Prison Abuses? 

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message: His bio should probably reflect that he co-hosts this program somewhere, right? Maybe in "related media works"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.33.2.140 (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insert Loud and Clear ref.? 

message: In light of the fact that Kiriakou works for a Russian state-owned media enterprise and has been referred to in print as a propagandist for the Kremlin, why is Russia not mentioned in the current version of this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Russia

message: Which should be used?
Granted if a quote contains the other spelling, then the name should appear the way the source spells it, followed by [sic]. 2600:8806:1203:BC00:242D:A962:5904:AA08 (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Zubaydah" and "Zubaida" are being used 

message: John Kiriakou is a former CIA counterterrorism officer who was the only person sentenced in the CIA's enhanced interrogation program. Kiriakou was sentenced to 2 years prison for exposing  the CIA's enhanced interrogation program.  
Integrated into the article: 
While in CIA custody, Zubaydah previously damaged left eye was surgically removed. 
Ironcurtain2 (talk) 16:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: John Kiriakou