Talk:Crazy Legs (album)

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Please stop making your incorrect revisions to the articles on Cliff Gallup and the Jeff Beck album Crazy Legs.  As made clear in numerous review articles at the time, the album is a recording of Gene Vincent's songs made as a tribute to Gallup.  The fact that one magazine interviewer (not Beck himself) misunderstood this is not sufficient reason to change the articles.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer thinking that if you are not citing beck himself, then one musical critic has the same correct opinion as another one. and I dont see nothing bad to see both opinions mentioned. Laudak (talk) 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies, but I don't understand what you are trying to say in that comment.  The interview does not quote Beck as saying that the album is a tribute to Vincent - that is an interpretation (an incorrect one, based on all other references) placed on it by the interviewer.  All other references I have seen state quite clearly that Beck recorded it as a tribute to Gallup.  I'm finishing now for tonight - I hope we don't have to return to this tomorrow.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Re your latest edits - please find me one serious critic who claims it is a tribute to Gene Vincent. Otherwise you are basing your view on what is an error by one journalist.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am saying what I am saying and what you are saying. We don't have references coming from Beck himself. Therefore one musical critic's opinion is just as good as another.  Laudak (talk) 23:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

text: As for "error", Douglas J. Noble is not a random paparazzi who can be easily dismissed. Laudak (talk) 23:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please bear in mind that Beck is primarily a guitarist not a r'n'r singer. In the Noble interview, he says "When I was learning guitar Cliff Gallup was the biggest influence on my playing - the cut was pretty deep and the scar has never healed!....I wanted to show people what Cliff was doing and I wanted to be Cliff when we were doing it."  Given that Gallup is his hero, it would be surprising if he made the album as a tribute to Vincent.  Of course, as numerous other references attest, he didn't - he recorded it as a tribute to Gallup.  The article should reflect the consensus of opinion, not your view that a misinterpretation of a comment by a single interviewer (however eminent he may be) should be given precedence.  I'm happy to find numerous other references that attest to the fact that Beck intended it as a tribute to Gallup - can you find any other independent references that say that it was a tribute to Vincent?  On the reasonable assumption that you can't, I'll revert it back again.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: If this edit means that you now accept my point, thank you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I had to run abruptly, so I didn't finish the talk. Last think to be settled, IMO until you produce a refence to Beck himself saying it was a tribute (or someone claiming that Beck said that), you have to use my wording: "music critics consider it to be a tribute..." or something like that. Laudak (talk) 19:15, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: P.S. YOu still not reading carefully what other people say. Where the heck you concluded "should be given precedence" from? I was saying that both opinions from reputable critics are equally valid and deserved to be mentioned. Laudak (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: OK. Thats it. You really have to reconsider your attitude of sticking to your opinon without any desire to expand/correct your knowledge. It took me 5 minutes of googling to find that you are wrong. Laudak (talk) 19:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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