Talk:Legend of the Red Dragon

message: Alright, I've been working on and cleaning up this article and well, due to an upcoming change in version 4.07 (as noted here), the weapons and armor are going to become editable.  The reason I note this is that someone has done a full list of both in the article.  For now, I am going to delete the list, replacing it instead with a note about the upcoming change. Eric42 03:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleaning up and expanding

message: Wow!  We've had both Seth Robinson and Micheal Preslar here at Wiki editing this entry.  For those who don't know (and thus, never read the actual entry), Seth Robinson is the creator of the game and Micheal Preslar is the current maintainer.  Quite nifty actually.
:Actually, this is a problem. Before today this article contained many sections which were either POV, software documentation, or arguably self-promotional in nature. Please review Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not -- it is highly problematic for either the original creator of LORD or for its current maintainer to contribute to this article without it becoming biased or unencyclopedic. While I deeply appreciate the contributions that Robinson and Preslar have made to the LORD software (and indeed to the history of bulletin board systems), it is not appropriate for them to contribute to this article. --G0zer 10:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you point to any particular change which is attributable to Michael or Seth that exhibits the sort of problems you describe?  --Hawke666 00:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm mostly referring to the addition of unverifiable claims about future versions of the software. —ptk✰fgs 01:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Celebrities

message: Oh, corks!  I remember this game.  The twelve levels, the ShadowStormWarrior, the armor and weapons, scribbling in the Dark Cloak Tavern, using the fairy to pick the lock...has it been so long?  I only have the most fleeting of memories of LORD.  Evidently, some people are still selling it (?!).  I'm surprised that the original is not freely available, or else I would have downloaded it straightaway and run it on dosemu.  --Ardonik 18:41, 2004 Aug 4 (UTC)
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Lord was a very special doorgame, in a very special time.
I met friends while playing lord, that i still have today.
It probably goes without saying that lord was the most successful doorgame of all time [in many aspects].
-oblivious-
: Unfortunately, 24.209.116.148, your recent edits have completely ravaged this article.  Instead of cleaning up its content, you removed most of it, turning the article back into a stub.  I'm going to revert your change and put a cleanup tag on the top of the article. (doesn't look like cleanup is necessary; the article looks okay to me, if a little rough around the edges.)  --Ardonik.talk()* 15:37, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
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i'm sorry you feel that way ardonik, but having played the doorgame since 1992, i felt that preslar's recent additions to the entry were extremely biased and 'chocked full' of redundant content.. ie:pasting the entire weapon/armor/etc lists...
i was also unhappy about him slamming the igms[in game modules] which really made the l.o.r.d doorgame so very interesting and popular!  without them, all you could do is visit the forest, kill something there, kill sleeping players, goto the bank..buy new weapons and armor.... not much to it, if you want to play it more than once! :D
but i sort of agree with you, i did chop out a bit too much, i was feeling a little bit guilty and i loaded up the wayback machine, and i was going cut and paste the original here... but i see you reverted the article, so all is well..
sometimes i let my anger get the best out of me... l.o.r.d was a great way to meet people in my area, and we had a lot of fun.  i feel bad that it's developement has been taking over by someone that i truly believe does not care about the project. [sorry z, that's the way other lord lovers and i've really felt about it all along]
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Dont care about the game? I care about it a lot more than anyone could ever realize. Something else that a lot of people dont realize is that I have a family and a dayjob that both take priority over my hobby programming. Lord does, and always will, hold a special place in my heart, but paying my bills, and spending time with my 1.5 year old son are more important to me right now.
But for those that are wondering. 4.07 dos/win32/nix are very close to being done. It all depends on beta testing. People that run the binaries never report problems. (I'll leave one in on purpose just to see if theyre paying attention).. So really. Once I know that they game is as bug free as I can make it for now, it will be released.
Michael
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I too have memories of playing LORD. It was back in the time when MBNet (MikroBitti's BBS) still ran on a telephone-based system instead of the Internet. So I set my modem to dial to the BBS and played LORD. I remember being quite an irritating newbie at it... JIP | Talk 08:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Memories

message: http://lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/ is the download site on Michael's website.  Also on Michael's website at http://lord.lordlegacy.com/converse.php is a link to a place where you can play the game! 
Most bbses have this excellent doorgame installed.
Here's some bbs lists and bbs related sites to get you started:
thebbs.org:THE largest bbs related site (l.o.r.d author is involved with operators)
Synchronet BBS software's networked bbs list (updated daily)
The BBS Corner's telnet bbs list (over 400 listings but not all have L.O.R.D.)
Over 100 Telnettable BBSs with registered L.O.R.D.   John Elson★3Dham★ WF6I A.P.O.I. 22:43, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  where to download and play the game 

message: What happened to the Legend of the Green Dragon article?  I can't find any deletion logs or any evidence that it even existed. X-Kal 07:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, there is a quite good version here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Legend_of_the_Green_Dragon&oldid=168365447 I just don't have the time now to argue the relevancy. --JonnyJD (talk) 11:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I'll gladly merge any LoGD information that can be attributed to an independent, reliable source (WP:V). Marasmusine (talk) 19:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend of the Green Dragon 

message: While I understand that privately-run "unofficial" servers are totally legal, I do question the placement of links to unofficial servers in the Wikipedia article.  I'm not sure if there is an "official" LORD site to use, but in terms of LotGD, I think we should remove all except the real deal, unless someone highly objects to this. X-Kal (talk) 05:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, because otherwise, I'd post a link to Improbable Island, which is a very not official LotRD spinoff.  It's a Green Dragon-based clone.  While it's a unique variation, it doesn't belong in the links.  :cool:  71.196.246.113 (talk) 05:49, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Removed the notability tag, as it was most likely placed by someone who never used BBSes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.119.155 (talk) 09:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have re-added the notability tag, as the article still does not explain how this game meets the general notability guideline. Marasmusine (talk) 10:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of notability tag 

message: I love how wikipedia claims to be the sum total of all human knowledge, yet for some reason pursues an endless quest to remove all knowledge. This game is notable. Ask ANYONE who has ever used a BBS in the 1990's, they will know what LORD is. I'm sorry if all the publications from back then are practically impossible to find now, and I'm sorry that BBS's flew under the mainstream radar for a long time, but it's notable, and the notability tag will only lead to one thing: deletion. I've seen it a hundred times. To those of you who keep putting the tag on, you're destroying wikipedia. So go ahead and keep deleting articles, you're only ruining the site. And yet somehow the thousands of unsourced pokemon pages remain...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.160.34 (talk) 01:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's notable, then WP:PROVEIT. Notability and Verifiability are inclusion criteria on Wikipedia. This means that every article must be based on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, whether or not the subject's notability is blatantly obvious to you or anyone else. And for what it's worth, I used BBSs in the 1990s and I've never heard of this game. Anyone else feel like reverting? I don't want to run afoul of WP:3RR. Wyatt Riot (talk) 05:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia idiocy 

message: The article states "The software is compatible with DOS, Microsoft Windows, and OS/2." - yet later in the article it is mentioned that an extension was being made first for Amiga. A quick search on Google and I find information about Robinson having indeed released an Amiga version. Does anyone with more definite knowledge feel like adding which platforms it was made available for? 87.157.44.134 (talk) 11:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platforms 

message: Although it doesn't happen often, single female players do sometimes give birth, though male players they've flirted with don't get any children that way. John Elson★3Dham★ WF6I A.P.O.I. 22:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Single female players giving birth