Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Nintendo/Archive The Legend of Zelda 2

message: I noticed that some of the enemies off of Twilight Princess aren't  included on the enemies page. I know a lot about the enemies that need to be there, but I could use a little help doing it. If there is anyone
who knows about some of the enemies, I would love help. Thanks for the help! Pokemon Guy 13:41, 09 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twilight Princess Enemies 

message: I just created an article for Gohma (which, as of right now, is really lacking. Please expand). Is it cool if I add it to the enemies template, or is there a more complicated process for changing templates? SixteenBitJorge 01:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enemies template 

message: Talk:Weapons and items from The Legend of Zelda series#Move to gaming wiki. 
Relevant conversation there. --tjstrf talk 20:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I agree with him. See my reply there. Axem Titanium 23:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guy attempting to have [[Weapons and items from The Legend of Zelda series]] moved to a gaming wiki. 

message: Races of The Legend of Zelda series Needs alot of serious work. ALOT. it appears to be mostly Original Reasearch, and is much too long, especially since some of the entries are handled in other articles. I can't touch this one without some help or I'll go insane. DurinsBane87 00:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that is really bad.  I'll help. Unoriginal Username 17:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Legend of Zelda Series Races 

message: I'm sick and tired of a select few people shoving this web site down the throats of Wikipedians. Even though these people have not shown that the site is verifiable, they still insist it must be used, even in the face of the fact that the site cannot be construed as a professional website - both in their stature and in their official status. Would anyone be interested in working against this blatant link spam? - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LandoftheLegend 

message: Now that Rupee and Gossip Stone have been merged into other articles as well, I think the  template is a little useless. JackSparrow Ninja 03:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just thinking that myself. I see two solutions: 1. Add in all the items we have cataloged or 2. Delete the damn thing. -- Jelly Soup 05:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that was sort of my point/question: what seperate item articles are there left? Does anyone know? JackSparrow Ninja 22:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapons and items template

message: A centralized discussion about video game navboxes, which may impact some or all of this project's navboxes, is ongoing. Members of this project (or anyone else interested) are invited to participate. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game navbox discussion 

message: There was some dispute over whether or not the move of Gerudo Valley, Lon Lon Ranch, and Spectacle Rock to List of recurring locations in The Legend of Zelda series, where a user claims that because I did not get consensus, it was an improper move (even though there was no controversy to be shown, and the only one who opposed it wasn't even opposing it being moved). I realize that some people might find it controversial, but in the non-policy he linked to to show that I should get consensus for controversial moves, it also says "be bold", and I assume that it doesn't mean "be careful, there might be controversy in a potential future edit". - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If nobody else is interested, I'm afraid it will have to wait. — Deckiller 19:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversy" 

message: If all these Hyrule location articles are placed into the main article, here's how I suggest the layout be:
* 1.0 Appearances (in real-life chronological order. yes, no "fate of hyrule section"; I recommend avoiding trying to connect these games via timeline because there are no reliable sources, this section should be mixed with out of universe information explaining the developers' inspiration, and so on)
* 2.0 Demographics (races, etc. out of universe information may be grand here)
Scratch the entire Geology section and place relevant parts within the appearences section (such as Twilight Princess' mirror imaging, and so on) and the common areas section below.
* 3.0 Common areas (keep this brief; each subsection only needs a couple paragraphs).
* 4.0 See also
* 5.0 References
* 6.0 External links
— Deckiller 16:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Structure of the Hyrule article

message: I'll start a rough draft here: User:Deckiller/Hyrule. However, I don't have much spare Wikipedia time to devote to this, so everyone is going to have to chip in if this is going to work. — Deckiller 18:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If nobody else is interested, I'm afraid it will have to wait. — Deckiller 19:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyrule article

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Pagrashtak 20:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Zelda weapons and items}} 

message: I have recently made some minor contributions to Midna's article. I entirely revised the Gameplay areas and moved some unnecesary information to Trivia. My reasons behind revising the Gameplay section was to make it seem more logical and sound more like a video game, while at the same time describing what graphically happens with Midna. I could help with the story too, but I will have to be more sensitive. --74.194.118.12 03:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contributions to Midna's article

message: An AfD discussion has been opened: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masks from The Legend of Zelda series. I'm both the messanger and the nominator, so feel free to shoot me. — Deckiller 06:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD discussion

message: There are currently quite a few Zelda articles with no citations. Please add references to the articles that need citations. Thanks. --Superneoking 20:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References and Citations

message: Help is needed to solve a revert war on this page - neither side will give nay, and compromise is pretty much impossible (its a fairly black-white issue). Please weigh in on the page (the discussion is at the bottom of the talk page, the edit conflicts are on the history), and help end the war.KrytenKoro 07:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bosses in The Legend of Zelda series]] page 

message: Just so you know, the Twilight Princess article is undergoing another peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess/archive1 for another FA nomination. Any comments there shall be appreciated. Thanks. Sjones23 02:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twilight Princess 

message: The current Zelda template includes CVG project rating and importance, but doesn't show the ranking and importance (unless I'm very confused). The only way I see to know the class and importance is to edit the page. Also, class=NA does not change the word "article" to "non-article" (for categories, templates, etc.) as it does in the cvgproj template. Can this be fixed? JohnnyMrNinja 20:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We should remove "class=GA" and such. See User_talk:Scorpion0422/Archive_3#Multiple_templates, it provides an explanation. Greg Jones II 19:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zelda pjroject template... 

message: There needs to be a definitive decision made regarding the Intro/names of the game articles (specifically: Zelda 1 and 2). I'm sick of people completely overhauling it every week or so; and usually not for the better.
My feeling is: The introduction is supposed to be the part of the article that reaches out to everyone and gets them interested enough to read on. As of now: the pages state the name of the game (necessary), the name of the Japanese version of the game in romaji (potential useful), and the name of the Japanese version of the game in Japanese text (least useful); not to mention that various portions of the titles are repeated more than once. The end result can  sometimes be nearly a paragraph in itself; one that is generally alienating and uninteresting to both novice and veteran game players.
There's nothing wrong with the information itself, only with it's current presentation and location. There's some good stuff in there, but it needs to be more concise, standardized, and it needs to be somewhere else in the article. (and not in the Introduction.) Zixor 18:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say, quite simply, what we have at the moment about the names is good enough; I'd merely put a note in there not to make any major changes without discussing it first, or something. But it's hardly like a paragraph, though. See what others say, first. Haipa Doragon (talk) 19:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: Link (The Legend of Zelda) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.  --carelesshx talk 21:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Link (The Legend of Zelda)]] 

message: I wish to propose a new template. Instead of the convoluted mess of templates that we have now, I propose that we instead have one big template to make it much neater and easier. This is an idea for it (note that it is not finished yet, and the colours are going to be... improved):
The Legend of Zelda                                                                                                           	The Legend of Zelda                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                	The Legend of Zelda
GAMES   |   CHARACTERS   |   RACES  |   ENEMIES   |   BOSSES   |   LOCATIONS	GAMES   |   CHARACTERS   |   RACES  |   ENEMIES   |   BOSSES   |   LOCATIONS                                                                                                                                                     	GAMES   |   CHARACTERS   |   RACES  |   ENEMIES   |   BOSSES   |   LOCATIONS
Games                                                                                                                         	The Legend of Zelda | Zelda II: The Adventure of LinkA Link to the Past | Link's Awakening | Ocarina of Time | Majora's Mask | Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  Four Swords | The Wind Waker | Four Swords Adventures | The Minish Cap | Twilight Princess | Phantom Hourglass	The Legend of Zelda | Zelda II: The Adventure of LinkA Link to the Past | Link's Awakening | Ocarina of Time | Majora's Mask | Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  Four Swords | The Wind Waker | Four Swords Adventures | The Minish Cap | Twilight Princess | Phantom Hourglass
Characters                                                                                                                    	Link | Princess Zelda | Ganon  Vaati | Twinrova | Dark Link  A Link to the Past | Link's Awakening | Ocarina of Time | Majora's Mask | Oracle of Ages and Seasons  The Wind Waker | The Minish Cap | Twilight Princess                                                             	Link | Princess Zelda | Ganon  Vaati | Twinrova | Dark Link  A Link to the Past | Link's Awakening | Ocarina of Time | Majora's Mask | Oracle of Ages and Seasons  The Wind Waker | The Minish Cap | Twilight Princess
Locations                                                                                                                     	Sacred Realm  Hyrule | Termina | Great Sea | Holodrum | Labrynna | Koholint Island                                                                                                                                                                                                 	Sacred Realm  Hyrule | Termina | Great Sea | Holodrum | Labrynna | Koholint Island
Other                                                                                                                         	Triforce | Master Sword  Weapons and Items | Musical Instruments  Songs | TV Series | Manga                                                                                                                                                                                        	Triforce | Master Sword  Weapons and Items | Musical Instruments  Songs | TV Series | Manga
 Category                                                                                                                	                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   	
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Remember, that this is just a prototype template and is not finished yet. I would however, like to see everyone's thoughts on the idea. .:Alex:. 19:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is an excellent idea. Greg Jones II 20:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would definitely suggest using  so as to fit with WP:VG standards. Axem Titanium 20:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Looks pretty good to me. Zixor 00:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also suggest adding a place for Tingle since he is a well known characters and one of the few that still has his own page. --67.71.77.122 07:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, it's been merged. Ashnard Talk Contribs 08:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. It hasn't been merged yet, but it will be merged later on I think. Ashnard Talk Contribs 11:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

text: A great idea, but it would do better with brightened colours and maybe a slight increase in font size. The links across the top should also stand out more, and maybe be in lower-case, too. Holodrum, Labrynna and Koholint Island have no articles, either, although I have no idea what the demand is for such things. Haipa Doragon (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It might work, just clean it up a bit and I could go for it.→041744 01:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh man, I didn't notice until now but the blue links are incredibly difficult to see on the green background, especially the category link. Axem Titanium 01:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Anything going to happen with this, then? Haipa Doragon (talk) 22:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

text: ...Anything? This has gone somewhat dead... Haipa Doragon (talk) 00:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: →041744 02:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd prefer if you could use  to implement it since that's WP:VG's policy. Axem Titanium 02:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then gives us a example of what you want, don't just whine about it. But seeing the size of this potental template, do not see how we can orginize it all without dividing up the links for neatness.→041744 02:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well don't look at me, they're not my policies. Maybe you could run it by WT:VG before implementing. Axem Titanium 16:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: As I said before, my box isn't finished yet. I plan to make many changes including font, colour, size ect. It was just a prototype I wanted to show rather than spend many more hours perfecting it in vain. Seeing as there is support for the idea, I will continue to improve the template taking into consideration everyone's suggestions. .:Alex:. 17:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It's a lot plainer compared to the other one; the white space in the middle contrasts badly with the green parts. The bright green text is somewhat repelling, but it's all a lot easier to read. I liked the shading on the rows and columns in the other one as well, maybe you could implement that. Haipa Doragon (talk) 17:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: In terms of colour, I would say I prefer your old one; the grey and pale-ish green contrast badly. It's a lot clearer though; the dark colours on the old template made it hard to read in places. I would recommend copying the old colour scheme to this one, then brightening the dark places to improve readability. Haipa Doragon (talk) 12:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I thought the old colours (which weren't in any way final) were a bit too strong. Is it better without the navbar at the top of the box or should I restore it? - .:Alex:. 14:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without; it's a little redundant, really. Haipa Doragon (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

text: My main criticism is that it's a little too big in scope. Just fyi, the locations except Hyrule and Sacred Realm are currently redirects so they can be removed to save space (Hyrule and Sacred Realm don't necessarily need to be on the template either...). The other thing would be to leave the characters on their own template. I can see an effective combination of  and , if that's what you're trying to accomplish. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do Hyrule and Sacred Realm not need to be on the template? Haipa Doragon (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that wasn't exactly the main thrust of my suggestion so if you can include them without it feeling out of place, feel free.  does it well. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks really good, but make sure that it includes all Zelda related articles, and cut most of the redirects, that will free up lots of room. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New template proposal 

message: For the benefit of the project, I have created an article index to get a full look at all the articles covered by this wikiproject. Judgesurreal777 00:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject The Legend of Zelda series/index|Article index]]

message: I could probably help get pictures fo the reccurring items, but I might need help with copyrights. -FrogTape 22:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Items copyrights 

message: At least 12 links of a suspected 26 were detected as dead, found on pages under the umbrella of this project.  External links are primarily used in references and should be treated as though the references were missing.  See parent discussion. Dispenser 04:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead links 

message: According to the official presentation, the correct name of the game is The Legend of Zelda Link's Crossbow Training. The title of the article, and the name displayed in that article, are incomplete.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.7.138.124 (talk) 01:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link's Crossbow Training