Talk:UEFA stadium categories

message: it appears to me that the uefa categories for stadia is a nonsense for if you're really trying to tell anyone that Hampden park is rated above stadia such as Celtic park then you haven't visited either the same can be said for st James's park Newcastle much better stadium's both. The majority of Football fans in Scotland would rather see Hampden park scrapped as the national stadium or redesigned so how it can have a higher category rating than the stadia mentioned is beyond me and is another example of uefa being out of touch with the people who make football what it is , the supporters that pay their hard earned cash to enter whilst uefa dignatories are granted free entry to matches of which they have no vested interest in  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.62.74 (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

message: When and who decides the ranking, in particular when will the Emirates Stadium in London be classified? --Vivbaker 11:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if/when Emirates Stadium will be given a rating but I read somewhere the stadium first has to nominate itself for hosting a Champions League final before it is assessed by UEFA. Qwghlm 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ranking

message: When modifying the templates I noticed that they included stadiums that are not on the referenced list. I've opened discussions at Template talk:UEFA4Star and Template talk:UEFA5Star  - if anyone has any relevant information please reply there. Qwghlm 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy of list

message: no MCG? :(
: MCG is in Australia, and therefore, not under UEFA (the European Football Authority). Eastlygod 18:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MCG 

message: expalin someone why SJP is not on here
Emirates is a 5 star Stadium, so is the new Wembley. SJP is, I believe, 4 star soon to be upgraded to 5-star.
: Read the criteria list.  The only difference between 4* and 5* is the capacity.  SJP has a capacity of over 50,000 and therefore can never be rated as a four-star stadium.  This isn't a list of how "good" a ground is.  It's a list based on stadia meeting set criteria. 23:19, 02 February 2008.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.21.150 (talk)  
: I would think is was due to the airport and accommodation factors. However Teeside Airport is getting more and more international flights, so it could be in future. Eastlygod 19:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thats upto uefa not wikipedia contributors. i beleive the wembeley and emirites will be added when sufficient games have been played there. --Numberwang 16:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  

message: Shouldn't Celtic Park be on either the 4* or 5* lists? 
On the UEFA website there is a comment on how there are 3 5* Stadiums in Glasgow, and includes Celtic Park in that list : 
"Scottish hospitality
If the bid is successful, Scotland will host the opening match and the final of the tournament, as well as three of the four groups, three quarter-finals and a semi-final. Ireland will host one of the four groups, as well as a quarter-final and a semi-final. The exact stadium details have yet to be confirmed but Glasgow's three UEFA five-star stadiums - Celtic FC's Celtic Park, Rangers FC's Ibrox stadium and Hampden Park - will be used as well as Edinburgh's Murrayfield stadium."
Source on UEFA website
:No - the article is referring to Scotland's joint bid to host Euro 2008 with Ireland.  Had the bid been successful it would have been upgraded to be used for the competition.  Scotland and Ireland's failure to be awarded the games meant that this never happened.
::Do we have a source for that? By the same token, that argument could be used to bar the others mentioned from being in the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.108.38 (talk) 11:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celtic Park 

message: What's the new Wembley rated? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xhandler (talk • contribs) 01:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it needs to apply for a final to be officially rated by uefa, smething which wembley and the fa wll do soon no doubt perhaps for 2010--Numberwang 11:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wembley Stadium]] 

message: Did they apply for a rating? GoldDragon 22:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: is was probably built with the standars in mind but needs to bid to host a final before it gets officially rated.--Numberwang 11:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Is it now considered 4-star? It recently lost out to Hamburg SV to host the UEFA Cup in 2010- "Rival bids from Munich and Berlin were also overlooked, while Arsenal lost out to Hamburg for the 2010 Uefa Cup final." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7319045.stm). --Beauty lies in the eye of the beer-holder... 23:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Ah, no worries...found the answer--Beauty lies in the eye of the beer-holder... 20:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emirates Stadium 

message: There's a discussion on the SkyScraperCity.com forum here, basically saying that capacity requirements have changed from 50 to 70,000 for 5-star (and from 30 to 40,000 for 4-star). Does anyone have any more info? CharlieT 22:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capacity requirement change? 

message: Shouldn't Anfield be on the four star list?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.66.153 (talk) 00:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anfield 

message: The map showing the 4 star and 5 star stadia is missing a marker for the Sunderland Stadium of Light.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.189.78 (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Marker missing for Stadium of Light on map

message: Reason: map contradicts table at bottom of article (e.g., England). Ufwuct (talk) 05:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradict template

message: Are there any specific criteria or requirements for scoreboards and/or video replay screens? 76.21.8.213 (talk) 17:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scoreboards and video boards? 

message: Instead of keeping the contradicitions on this page and elsewhere (Wembley page has it marked as 5-star, Old Trafford page mentions it's the only 5-star stadium in England, etc]] is it not possible to find an official UEFA list somewhere?  I had a brief look on the UEFA webpage, but either my searchfu isn't working, or UEFA don't publish such a list. Darkson (BOOM! An interception!) 14:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official UEFA list 

message: From reading the entry itself, this talk page and the uefa website it seems that:
There is no such thing as a UEFA Stadium List
The 4 Star / 5 Star rating system has been obsolete for over a year. Lostcause1798 (talk) 12:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have shifted the prod since this is a wholly encyclopaedic topic and the problems need fixing not the page deleting. I have moved the page to a title that enables the article to focus on the stadia as opposed to the list and is independent of a physical list existing. TerriersFan (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you've made some changes - however the article still refers to 4 and 5 star stadia which doesn't appear to exist as a concept anymore with Cat 1, 2 , 3 or Elite replacing that.  It appears that finals can now be held in Elite stadia and depending on the final, there will be a minimum capacity.  I beleive this is 70,000 for CL Finals which would rule out about half of the current stadia listed as 5-star (which was the previous benchmark for CL Finals).  If no-one has before me, I'll have a go at re-writing the whole thing at the weekend - with a paragraph referring to the old style of 4/5 star as a historical concept. Lostcause1798 (talk) 08:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the minimum capacity is afaik attributed to Platini. There is no such thing officially, but obviously it doesn't make sense to have CL finals in a 35,000 arena and therefore 70,000 is said to be minimum, but probably more of guideline. I couldn't find any such thing within the official documents anyway. OdinFK (talk) 08:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this just be deleted? 

message: Quality: At the moment the article is not written as if the UEFA would still use the system. All that is any good is the introduction I guess. I was even wondering if I should have given it a start rating, but imo it has to much information and citations for that. The article still needs a lot of rewriting anyway.
Importance: I doubt that the importance could be anything but low. The article seems to be no more than a side note in the football context. On the other hand the article has some significance if you want to find out who can host EUROs, but still I doubt that mid-importance would be appropriate. OdinFK (talk) 07:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance and quality

message: Does anyone know if Leicester have applied for 4 star rating. As far as I know the Stadium is very simular to St Mary's in Southampton, so I'm curious as the whether the club have applied. JimmyMac82 (talk) 15:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Walkers Stadium

message: it seems that throughout the time of this article, no-one has ever been able to produce a verifiable list of 4 or 5 star system meaning the old article was always contentious.  at any eate - in 2006 uefa stopped using the 4 and 5 star system and now categorise stadia as 1, 2, 3 or elite.
i have rewritten the article and added links to 3 uefa docs verifying the details.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.194.54 (talk) 20:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Though the updating to the categorisation system was useful the removal of sourced content was not. I am adding back sources that apply to events under the new system. They should not be excised again without agreement here. TerriersFan (talk) 23:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article rewritten

message: This article is categorized as a list, but the only problem is that there is no list! I understand the whole "work in progress" that happens to articles sometimes, but it would be very useful to have a sourced list of stadia. Would someone with knowledge – more than what I possess – of the subject care to update the article to include a list of elite stadia? The picture with the blue and red marks is useful, but it's impossible to know what stadium corresponds to each mark. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 17:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: AFAIK, and I may be wrong, there is no authoritative list from UEFA, and stadia are assessed if they apply to host a major event. The map is an old map, showing 5-star stadia. Not sure if it should be seen as original research, but in any case it is tagged (citation needed) and should be deleted soon if no reference is supplied.hippo43 (talk) 23:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This talk page could be a good place to start searching for references  for the usual suspects. Please, do not move this list to the article itself.
 Ernst-Happel-Stadion 
 King Baudouin Stadium
 Parken Stadium 
 Anfield 
 City of Manchester Stadium 
 Emirates Stadium
 Old Trafford 
 Riverside Stadium
 St James' Park
 St Mary's Stadium 
 Stadium of Light 
 Villa Park 
||
 Wembley Stadium 
 Parc des Princes 
 Stade de France 
 Stade de Gerland 
 Allianz Arena 
 HSH Nordbank Arena 
 Mercedes-Benz Arena 
 Olympic Stadium (Berlin) 
 Olympic Stadium (Munich) 
 Veltins-Arena 
 Westfalenstadion 
||
 Karaiskakis Stadium 
 Olympic Stadium (Athens) 
 San Siro 
 Stadio delle Alpi 
 Stadio Olimpico 
 Stadio San Nicola
 Stadio San Paolo
 Amsterdam Arena 
 Feijenoord Stadion 
 Gelredome 
 Philips Stadion 
||
 Estádio Algarve 
 Estádio da Luz 
 Estádio do Dragão 
 Estádio José Alvalade 
 Stadionul Naţional
 Luzhniki Stadium 
 Hampden Park 
 Ibrox Stadium 
 Camp Nou 
 Estadi Cornellà-El Prat
 Estadi Olímpic de Montjuïc 
 Estadio Anoeta
||
 Estadio Manuel Martínez Valero
 Estadio Nueva Condomina
 Estadio Olímpico de Sevilla 
 Santiago Bernabéu Stadium
 Vicente Calderón Stadium 
 Råsunda Stadium 
 Ullevi 
 Atatürk Olympic Stadium 
 Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium 
 Donbass Arena
 Millennium Stadium 
|}
--79.158.122.174 (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of stadiums 

message: Its a 5 star stadium that holds 50000.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.77.211.152 (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wheres the donbass stadium in Donetsk 

message: Is it time to go through the separate stadium articles to replace the star rating with that of 'elite'? --Markh991 (talk) 10:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  UEFA Ratings 

message: At the top of that section it says stadiums must be all-seated, then it says standing spectators are allowed. I'm confused and obviously missing something. Half Price (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As am I . Was just going to post the same thing Gnevin (talk) 15:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[UEFA_stadium_categories#Category_one|Category One]] Confusion 

message: Chelsea Home Stamford Bridge is not 5 stars  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.23.196 (talk) 06:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stamford Bridge 

message: I know a lot of work has been put into the recent table for the elite category, but I think there is a danger of this becoming a vanity article. Please see the comments of the previous page: Talk:List of UEFA Elite Stadiums. I can find no proof UEFA has any official list of elites and it's quite difficult to verify some of the criteria, e.g. size of hospitality areas and tv studios. Lots of fans would like to think the stadium for their team would qualify as elite but can't back it up. Even if the team's official website called it an elite, that could be a conflict of interest. As a more general example, how many seats are currently covered in Camp Nou? If it's not at least 22,500, then it's not an elite. So, please, somebody find a list from UEFA and all verifiability issues are removed.  --ML5 (talk) 23:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vanity article 

message: I've only skimmed the other comments above this one, so I apologise if I am repeating what another contributor has written. I think it would be beneficial if there is an image of an example stadium for each category, and for category 4 especially, a caption that states what final the stadium has hosted, ideally the most recent Champions League and Europa League finals, with any additional information that would seem suitable. Hesky10 (talk) 19:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples for each category