Talk:2018

message: He has received a lot of coverage, yet people keep removing him cause he’s apparently isn’t internationally notable. I disagree with them.  JoeyRuss (talk) 10:57, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Johnny Valiant? Not internationally notable.  Probably wouldn't meet the standards for 2018 in the United States.  Perhaps 2018 in WWE or 2018 in television?  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

text: "... in WWE" is not a subarticle of "... in sports", so I don't know exactly where yyyy in WWE should go. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 14:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:   There's no such thing as 2018 in WWE on Wikipedia. However, there's a 2018 in professional wrestling. Just thought I might let you know so that in future you would know where to find these kind of articles. The Optimistic One (talk) 18:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Valiant  

message: Hi,
I wonder if that wikipedia should indicate 2018 as the 19th year of the 21st century & 3rd millennium as 2000 is the 1st year & not 2001
138.75.150.238 (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Because nothing you wrote is correct.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 04:19, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: 2000 is the last year (strictly) of the 20th century, read more at: Century. Iamthemostwanted2015 (talk) 19:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  18/19 

message: "Not internationally notable" ... um ... Australia Variety Esquire Belgium Brazil PortugalMexico 
Ireland Canada San Francisco Billboard AOL ... etc etc Black Kite (talk) 11:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like a clear include to me. agtx 20:39, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Hutchison 

message: On the 2017 article it was agreed to add Youtube personality Angry Grandpa to the list of deaths as his real name (Charles Green) rather than as his Youtube identity (see HERE). This precedent indicates that TotalBiscuit should instead be credited as John Bain. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  TotalBiscuit 

message: It was run by the Brady Bunch, and there were a number of students and teachers who opposed the walkout and were punished.  This "spontaneous" protest was not very widespread. The March for Our Lives demonstrations were much more significant, although there were counter-protests there, as well.   — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 04:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  National School Walkout Day 

message: , this is at least the 2nd time you've done this in a month. You did it with Scott Hutchison as well. Boston, USA Sweden Portugal Slovakia  I found those sources in 5 minutes. Seriously, you shouldn't be editing this page if you can't be bothered to actually look up sources.  Stop it. Oh by the way here's some more USA Ireland Romania Black Kite (talk) 18:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Leslie Grantham

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message: Danny Kirwan was an integral member of Fleetwood Mac, appearing on four of their studio albums and was a member of one of two line-ups generally considered to be their classic. He is the primary member responsible for the band moving away from their blues rock roots and along with Bob Welch and Christine McVie transitioned the band to a more soft rock direction - laying the groundwork for the Lindsey Buckingham/Stevie Nicks era stuff. Kirwan is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee; his guitar work and role in the band has been acclaimed. At the very least given his merits Kirwan’s image is deserving to be put up on this page; certainly more so than a rapper who wasn’t all that well known outside of the unusual circumstances of his passing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thescrubbythug (talk • contribs) 19:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad I thought you were changing it too XXX - I have to agree I would consider Danny to be more notable and more known than XXX..... –Davey2010Talk 20:12, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

text: I am agnostic in the Kirwan v. XXX thing. I switched them because I've noticed mini-edit wars about photo selections in these year articles for a long time, assumed this was one of them, and reverted it back to what it had been. Should there be guidelines as to which photos appear in the deaths sections of these articles?  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 22:44, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There should be guidelines.  However, there are editors who disagree, preventing guidelines as to which deaths should appear from being adopted.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:13, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, but this has been going on for much longer than any change in the listing guidelines. Before then, it was between individuals who had met those criteria. I think it would be much more palatable to create guidelines as to who appears in the photographs than determining who actually gets listed here. Pretty much since the photos have been introduced into these articles, they've pretty much been included on the whim of whoever adds them. This has generally resorted in the over-appearance of entertainers (and to a lesser extent, politicians) in the photo selection over many other fields.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: What about 2018 Russia-United States summit in Helsinki?
: Would agree that it needs to be in. 86.115.14.101 (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Helsinki summit

message: *June 24 — Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is re-elected President of Turkey.
I think Turkey has enough presence on the world stage for this to be included.  Similarly for Egyptian presidential election, 2018. 172.58.67.244 (talk) 04:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkish general election, 2018 

message: There is heat waves and droughts all over Northern hemisphere with forest fires and all. This article mentions only North America now.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.193.159.170 (talk) 11:18, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: True.  I thought the North American ones were mostly non-notable.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 00:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Heat wave and drought

message: Notable?  There is a notability tag on the article, and I can see little that indicates notability in the article.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 16:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ulhas Bapat]] 

message: Lately, Rich8605 has added Robin Leach to the death section three times in under twenty-four hours and I kept telling him that’s he not notable and then I gave him a warning for edit warring. So, should we keep Leach out? I know WP:RY is dead but I think this can lead to conclusion to see what others think rather than one person thinking on their own. Gar (talk) 00:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. Gar (talk) 21:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude — He had immense notability mainly in the world of pop culture for being the star attraction of the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, as well as being the subject of cultural references and cameos in film, reality, and game shows over the years when his showmanship days were over. He was known more exclusively to the English-speaking audience in the US and in regions of Europe and other small parts of the world that had distribution to subtitles to said television series, but nothing more. I'll change my vote if only more evident stuff are presented in this Talk page, but for now I'll stand for exclusion. —*riot_iori* ❰talk❱ 01:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Exclude.  (Invited)  Almost qualifies for WP:B..1E.  Having obits in multiple countries doesn't mean he isn't known only for Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Leach 

message: Hello could you please add the Deaths of Murray Westgate,Nini Theilade,Benjamin Melniker,Maciej Maciejewski,Tatyana Karpova,Gertrude Jeanette,Anna Campori. ThatBaileyLad (talk) 18:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm feeling generous, so if you provide Wikilinks, I would might be willing to add some of them.... — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 23:29, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2018 

message: Pls add Daniel Correa Freitas who was murdered. Lior the swimmer (talk) 06:00, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Daniel Correa Freitas appears not to have  Wikipedia article, so, no.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 01:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

text: I guess he does.  If the article shows signs of notability, it might be listed here, but the article does not say "murdered".  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 01:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add 

message: Possible addition for 4 Nov 2018? See e.g. Joona “Serral” Sotala has become the first non-Korean to win StarCraft 2's most prestigious tournament, the World Championship Series (WCS).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.115.14.101 (talk) 19:57, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps in 2018 in video gaming, not here.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 01:20, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1st non-Korean StarCraft II world champion in 20 years 

message: Why is his picture not on here yet. He was an important actor to a lot of people Matt Campbell (talk) 14:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Scott Wilson

message: Shouldn't the Thousand Oaks shooting and the California wildfires be on here?-Adame150 (talk) 18:39, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's what 2018 in the United States is for. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks for clarifying. --Adame150 (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Thousand Oaks

message: His son was WWE Hall of Famer, Mr. Perfect, his grandson, Curtis Axel is currently in the WWE. He had a long tenure in the AWA, surely he is notable enough to be listed. The Optimistic One (talk) 01:48, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Larry Hennig]]

message: In spite of efforts to include anyone mentioned in a Wikipedia article in the deaths section, there is still consensus that the person must be internationally notable, and must generally have a Wikipedia article.  Some editors are adding people whose deaths were noticed in a Wikipedia article.  Until consensus is changed, it seems pointy, at best, to add dozens of individuals.  Furthermore, it seems likely that each entry will eventually need a reference, as is now required in WP:DOY articles.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 00:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internationally notable 

message: The article on the year 2018 lists Thomas Bopp's death for January 6, but according to his own article and the Washington Post, he died on January 5.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.130.216.17 (talk) 05:53, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for pointing that out. The Optimistic One (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Bopp 

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message: Of the 100 images in the deaths section, 43 are of US figures. Females are noticeably under-represented. Perhaps User:Matt Campbell would like to address this issue. Deb (talk) 08:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Or you could just fix it yourself. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:59, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I tried that, but Matt keeps replacing the images. Deb (talk) 11:51, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, then perhaps start here by proposing half a dozen male Americans to remove and what you wish to replace them with.  Then we can get a discussion going.  In any case,  shouldn't be telling you to stop editing the page, it's not his position to do that at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:14, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I'll have a think. Deb (talk) 14:18, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

text: There seemed to be consensus for that change, so I've done it. Deb (talk) 07:57, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't want any part of this discussion! Matt Campbell (talk) 04:15, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  please don't meddle with the changes which have been made following a discussion.  Just because you don't wish to participate, it doesn't mean you can overrule consensus unilaterally.  Any more of this and I'm afraid we'll have to take a trip over to WP:ANI.  The Rambling Man (talk) 05:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Like I said, I won't be participating. Matt Campbell (talk) 05:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Well as long as that includes not edit warring to restore you preferred version of the page against consensus, that'll be just fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:26, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Some of those images are in the wrong place at least 1 of them is, and there are too many as well. Matt Campbell (talk) 18:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means fix the placement; you've only been advised here to stop edit warring to keep your preferred images in place. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:03, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Little late to this discussion, having only just been made aware of it. I would be in favour of retaining Marty Balin's image (Balin after all was the founder and frontman of iconic rock band Jefferson Airplane), but removing all the rest mentioned. Thescrubbythug (talk) 17:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Globalization and gender bias

message: Please change the event that happened on December 17 from "17 December" to "December 17" to fit with the format established in the rest of the page. Davidb888 (talk) 17:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done RudolfRed (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
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message: See WT:YEARS#Eclipses for a matter relevant to this page.  Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:09, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eclipses 

message: * Manuel Olivencia, Spanish lawyer, doesn't seem internationally known (removed)
* Hiromu Nonaka, Japenese minister, probably only known in Asian countries (removed)
* Ole Thestrup, Danish actor, seems to only be known in Denmark and other Scandanavian countries (removed)
* Wright King, non-notable actor from the mid 1900's (removed)
* David Azulai, Israeli politician, could be notable outside Israel (removed)
* Celeste Yarnall, non-notable TV actress from the 60's (removed)
* Vanessa Marquez, same as Yarnall above, except diffrerent decade (removed)
* Billy Herrington, gay porn actor, profession has a very specific audience (removed)
This years deaths section is already very stacked, so it need's trimming! Please let me know your opinions, so they'll be disscussed. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I would certainly go along with removing any of those. Deb (talk) 14:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, are there any more editors watching these pages? The Optimistic One (talk) 20:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed removals

message: As i was looking through june deaths i thought it was weird that xxxtentacion didn't have a picture for june deaths, but i assumed that the older famous celebrities have some type of senority so their pics go first. That was until curiosity hit me and i decided to check other celebs. Then i found that lil peep(a young artist), kim jong hyun(another young artist), and even charles manson(a very controversial person) have pics for when they died. So can xxxtentacion get a pic for june? Seeing as his death was arguably the most known in june, let alone the year 2018. Zackattack996 (talk) 13:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing June deaths picture 

message: August 20 - Greta Thunberg begins her School Strike for Climate outside the Swedish Parliament. 217.146.108.249 (talk) 11:23, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia cannot be used to source itself. Please supply links here and re-open this request by changing "|answered=yes" to "|answered=no". Thnaks, NiciVampireHeart 16:37, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2019 

message: Why is  Hurricane Michael listed here while Hurricane Sandy is not listed in the 2012 article. Michael had extremely low impact compared to Sandy which had a huge impact and received immense international coverage. Just because Michael is category 5 it is more notable than Sandy? Also I have noticed that a lot of important events were omitted in 2012 because of the then recent years policy 2002-2017, but 2018, 2019, 2020 are flooded with events that would be considered not notable had the policy still been in effect. There is a serious issue of Wikipedia:Recentism in this article, and I think a recentism tag should be placed. Dilbaggg (talk) 15:51, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:   Hurricane Michael 

message: We both know this article is a massive mess in some places. Well, yesterday, I removed several entries that I felt weren't internationally notable in the deaths section from January until April. I also either updated,  replaced, or removed images as well. What do you think of the new changes? Also, if there's anyone that you felt should be reinstated, please let me known. The Optimistic One (talk) 11:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks okay to me. Anyone has the option to add a citation if they spot anything that needs to go back in. Deb (talk) 11:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @Deb@The Optimistic One 61.5.147.23 (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: February 2021 clean up

message: I would also like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020). The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest.
At the village pump, I've presented a  proposal to establish a standard to use DMY in general for all articles about "generic" years. The discussion got kind of messy however, and I'll propaly restart it at some point. In the meantime, I would like it to create consensus about changing it for specifically this and all other nine articles about the 2010s--Marginataen (talk) 16:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date format 

message: At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Years#Lead_image, a discussion on whether to depreciate collages in general in going on. Please share your thoughts. Koopinator (talk) 07:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collage depreciation