Talk:Mycorrhiza

message: I was only able to understand a quarter of it all! This article needs to be downgraded slightly in vocabulary so people can understand it better.
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I disagree.  Jargon if suitably linked is fine, I navigated around and learnt quite a lot.  I strongly discourage dumbing down articles, and instead encourage a strong linking system to explain terms.
However, I believe this and the linked articles should be referenced better, especially where statistics are concerned.  Is this something I can help with?  I am new to Wikipedia.
71.139.30.166 18:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jargon 

message: According to the Dictionary of the Fungi, 9th ed. by Kirk, et al, a mycorrhiza is a "symbiotic, non-pathogenic or feebly or weakly pathogenic association of a fungus and the roots of a plant." (Emphasis added) Mycota 21:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am the author of this section. At the beginning I wrote  "A mycorrhiza is the symbiotic association between a green plant and a fungus...". The use of the word "society" is only made to avoid repetition. I used it as synonym with association. I thought is was correct. Or is it not?--Auró (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of mycorrhiza 

message: This article is now looking reasonably respectable in terms of inline citations.  Could the boilerplate template be removed and individual statements requiring verification be tagged with ?  This would make it much easier to address the issue.  Thanks!  Verisimilus T 20:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional sources

message: I received the following e-mail in response to a question I posted.
Karl A. Wilson[,] Faculty (Professor), Biological Sciences, S.U.N.Y. at Binghamton (Binghamton University)
Some early reports suggested that mycorrhizal fungi could fix atmospheric nitrogen and pass this on to the associated plant.  However, it is now generally accepted that this is not true.  It appears that the biological fixation of diatomic nitrogen is only carried out by prokaryotes, e.g. Rhizobium, Acetobacter, and various cyanobacteria.  These prokaryotes in turn can associate with mycorrhizal fungi, which in turn associate with the host plant, passing the fixed nitrogen along this chain.  Because of this complex rhizosphere, engineering rapeseed (canola, Brassica napus) with a reduce nitrogen fertilizer requirement would really involve the engineering of the entire [Brassica – mycorrhizal fungus – prokaryotic nitrogen fixer] system to produce the appropriate interactions.  This is certainly at this point not an easy problem, requiring a better knowledge of these interaction[s] than we presently have.
I'll put this in the Discussion for Prokaryotes as well. Simesa (talk) 07:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Nitrogen fixation, which says the same thing far less simply. Simesa (talk) 07:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Mycorrhiza only part of the problem

message: Could someone please help me locate where this name came from with this spelling?
As far as I can tell A.B. Frank (which was Wiki's reference) merged myco + rhizae to create the word mycorhizae which became mycorhiza (rather than coining a word spelled mycorrhiza as is stated under the etymology portion of the Wikipedia entry.)
At some point I cannot determine the word apparently had an R added and mycorrhiza became the preferred spelling (10:1 frequency of use in google searches)
According to Encyclopedia Britanica online and Principles of plant physiology By Walter Stiles both spellings are considered to be correct. 
I have not been able to learn where did the second R come from or why?
Thanks for any feedback
kt
Keepertrout (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "As the word comes from the Greek and good usage requires doubling the letter r in compounding, we now write it, mycorrhiza." -- Arthur P. Kelley, taken from his 1950 book Mycotrophy in Plants, but he first said it in a 1931 paper. Walor (talk) 00:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of mycorrhiza 

message: The first sentence defines a "mycorrhiza" as an "association", i.e. the term refers to the "relationship" between the two organisms. This suggests that each organism must be referred to with the adjective; e.g. the "mycorrhizal fungi" and "mycorrhizal plants" that are involved in the relationship. However, numerous later sentences (such as "Mycorrhizae form a mutualistic relationship with the roots of most plant species") use the term "mycorrhizae" to refer specifically to the fungus as opposed to the relationship (based on the original definition this sentence would appear to say "the relationships form a relationship"). Could anyone clarify the correct usage and make the article consistent? Thanks Kernow (talk) 05:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Came to add to specifically this. The use of this term on this page is extremely sloppy. Seeing as no one has addressed either Kernow's above point nor fixed the originating usage, I'm adding this comment to bump (as otherwise I wouldn't leave the wiki equivalent of the ubiquitous and highly aggravating "This"-type response). So --- Can someone with the credentials please either clarify whether M. refers to the relationship itself; the physical interface between p. and f.; some combination of interface and some physical portion(s) of p., f., or both; the type of fungi which engage in this behavior; or just logical instances of said behavior... or, if feeling particularly generous, clean up the article instead? Because either action would be just peachy. 2605:E000:5FC0:79:74DB:9891:7AE1:634B (talk) 18:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded the lead and first section to (hopefully) remove ambiguity. "Association" can refer to a thing, or to a relationship between things. E.g., a homeowners association can refer to the legal entity composed of homeowners, or to the relationship between the homeowners, who are in a homeowners association relationship to each other. FloraWilde (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing use of the "mycorrhiza" term 

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message: I call the attention of WikiProject Ecology. I think that this subject is of high importance not only for fungi and plants categories, but also and maybe even more, for ecology.--Auró (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See an instance for this high importance, contained in the article: "Nutrients can be shown to move between different plants through the fungal network. Carbon has been shown to move from paper birch trees into Douglas-fir trees thereby promoting succession in ecosystems."--Auró (talk) 21:42, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article importance 

message: The term "mycorrhizas" is incorrect although it is used often in this. The plural or mycorrhiza is mycorrhizae. 
There is much more information to be shared on the arbuscular mycorrhizae which is a type of endomychorrhiza. They are the most common and are found in 80% of vascular plant species. The form of the arbuscules is also unique, forming a membrane which arises from the plant and surrounds the fungi within the cell of the plant root. This membrane is called the periarbuscular membrane (PAM). This is the site where there is nutrient and water transfer as well as communication between the plant and fungi.  The plant host is their primary carbon source. 
64.247.90.148 (talk) 14:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked up the term, "mycorrhizas", and to my surprise... it seems like this word is established as a scientific alternative to "mycorrhizae". See "The Microbial World: Mycorrhizas" (UK) - "Jim Deacon, Institute of Cell and Molecular Biology, The University of Edinburgh", Trees for Life (UK), using the word, "Mycorrhizas"... and hell, even a website with the site name of "mycorrhizas": https://www.mycorrhizas.info/. Knowing that 2/3 (or maybe the last one, but I'm not 100% sure) are sites from the UK, maybe "mycorrhizas" is used in the UK (maybe British English?)? Also -- it would be nice if you could provide some proof as to how "mycorrhizas" is not a possible term for the plural of "mycorrhiza". Claims without evidence don't hold any weight. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 16:25, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbuscular Mycorrhizae 

message: I think it is important to add a section discussing the causes of the evolution of the various mycorrhizae. This is an area where there can be a discussion on how differing atmospheric conditions (ie high levels of CO2) impact the symbiosis between plants and fungi.
64.247.90.148 (talk) 14:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mycorrhiza Evolution 

message: Wikipedia should have a List of mycorrhiza species in agriculture
For example, for apple and blackcurrants, Glomus intraradices, G. mosseae, G. etunicatum seem to be useful, see https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/fhort.2013.25.issue-2/fhort-2013-0013/fhort-2013-0013.pdf
Genetics4good (talk) 13:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of mycorrhiza species in agriculture

message: I reckon we should consider mycorrhizal relationship to be a symbiosis, without any reference to the balance of advantages that derive to the partecipants (defining it as mutualistic). This because the relationship is far from completely understood, because it varies wildly and because we have real world examples of how it can be pretty much a parasitic relationship (e.g. non-photosynthetic orchids which we can hardly think are giving anything to the fungus)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arteteco (talk • contribs) 10:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mutualistic relationship?