Talk:Tirukkural

message: Thiruvalluvar belongs to Vaishnavism sect of Hinduism, as he mentions God Vishnu in couplets 610 and 1103 and Goddess Lakshmi in couplets 167, 408, 519, 565, 568, 616, and 617.
Brahmins are not only the Hindus. This was taught by the pseudo athiest under Dravida maayai. Whoever follow Vedas/Bhagawat Gita are all known as Hindus. 
Bhagawat Gita clearly states' Chathur varnam - guna karma vipasakaha. The four castes come by deeds and character and not by birth. Same is told by Valluvar as Pirappokkum Kural.
One sect called themselves as brahmins and spoiled hinduism.
Aryans are not only hindus. Sangam literature including puranaanooru, thol kaappiyam, silappathikaram, Pari padal clearly speaks about God Narayana/Vishnu as Thirumaal and God Krishna as Maayon.
Bhathra kaali itself a sanskrit name, well famous in rajastan sides.
Azhagar is nothing but God Vishnu, who is worshipped by currently known iyengars and all villagers. 
The word Adhi Bhagawan is not pure tamil, but sanskrit. Pure tamil words of it are "Thodakka" and "irai".
More than Adhi Bhagawan in jainism, its completely linked to vaishnavism.
 Nammalwar states God Narayana as Andhamil "Aadhi am Bhagawan" - Divya Prabandham. 2701
 Sanskrit Author Baanini refers "Adhi Idhi Bagavatho Narayana". Hence, adhi bhagavan cant stand for Rishaba devar, but God Narayana.
EnGunathan can also mean as Ennatra Gunangaludayaan - which is famouns as "Anatha Kodi Gunangaludaya Narayanan" by Alwar talk. Thiruvalluvar cannot be atheist, as he mentions Iraivanadi, Aadhi bhagavan. He cannot be christian, as he mentions "Oozh"(prior birth deeds), Piravi perunkadal(re-birth) and vegetarianism(pulal unnaamai). He cannot be Jain, since he mentions "Avi soriyum Velvi(Yagna)", "Aravali Andhanan", "iruvinayum cheraa iraivan" The only God names he mentions are Thamarai Kannaan (God Krishna), Adiyalandhaan(God Vishnu - Vamanan), Thamarayinaal, Thiru, Seyyaval as Goddess Lakshmi [ref. Parimelazhagar urai]. Hence, there is no place to change its identity.
He not ever mentioned tamil dominant religion Saiva God "Shiva" or Tamil Kadavul "Muruga" or Jain God "Arugan" or Village goddess "Kotravai" or others. He mentions only God Krishna and Lakshmi in his kurals.
Thiruvalluvar must would have belonged to madurai region vaishnava kshathria(being a minister) as the books were handled by its first commentators, who were belonged to same area. Parimelazhagar (Names stands for God of Alagar Kovil), Pari perumal(God of alagar kovil), Kalingar (Kalinga krishna).
Kural also has the meaning "Vamana" (as referred by Nammalwar in Nalayira Divya prabandham).
Thiruppathisaram temple near Nagarkovil and Aranmula Parthasarathy temple in kerala, have the Vishnu deities in the name of Thirukkuralappan.
Barring above all concepts, thiruvalluvar himself shows his own identity by denoting God Vishnu on his Kural no. 1103 and Kural no. 610 and notes on Goddess lakshmi by Kural nos. 167, 617, 408, 519, 565, 568 and 616.
Hence, as the followers of Valluvar, we are not supposed to manipulate or over-change his straight forward own words from our concepts and need to follow "Therindhu Seyal vagai" and "Vaaimai". Changing or generalizing his identity are totally against him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maayan pandithevan (talk • contribs) 15:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:OR. If there is any reliable citation that supports your claim, you can add it to the article. utcursch | talk 14:07, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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