Talk:Rudy Giuliani

message: I think the $148 million defamation verdict against him, and his filing for bankruptcy six days later, should be in the opening section. Those are very significant life events. Krakatoa (talk) 10:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I added a sentence about it to the lede pbp 15:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defamation verdict and bankruptcy filing 

message: Rudy appeared (and had speaking lines) in the film Anger Management with Adam Sandler, where he played himself. 2601:8C0:380:35C0:6197:EE2B:5733:65A4 (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: And who can forget his scene in Borat Subsequent Moviefilm -- a classic (where he also played himself)...  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media section addition 

message: * In an effort to reform the police department's administration and policing practices, they applied the broken windows theory.  Accordingly, Giuliani removed panhandlers and sex clubs from Times Square. As crime rates fell steeply, well ahead of the national average pace, Giuliani was widely credited, though later critics cite other contributing factors.
**This goes far too in the weeds about his/Bratton's crime policy for the lede.  A sentence or two saying civic cleanup and crime policies will suffice
* The theory states that social disorder, like disrepair and vandalism, attracts loitering addicts, panhandlers, prostitutes, and criminals.  
** It is not necessary to explain broken windows theory in the lede; a link to the article on broken windows theory will suffice
*Giuliani was arrested on August 23, 2023, and a mugshot was released.
** It is not necessary to mention this in the lede; it would logically be inferred that, if indicted, he would be arrested, and, if arrested, he'd have a mugshot taken.
*  In addition, he has often been engaged for public speaking, political commentary, and Republican campaign support.
** It is quite common for this to be true of any politician of Rudy's stature and therefore need not be mentioned in the lede.
* As a consequence, his license to practice law was suspended in New York State in June 2021, and in the District of Columbia in July 2021. 
** Too specific for the lede
* In late 2019, Giuliani was reportedly under federal investigation for violating lobbying laws,as a central figure in the Trump–Ukraine scandal, which resulted in Trump's first impeachment. 
** Out-of-date; language  shortened to read simply "was a central figure in the Trump-Ukraine scandal.
* as well as his promotion of conspiracy theories, most notably about the 2018 and 2020 elections.
** Redundant to sentences that outline his comments about the 2020 election
pbp 20:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Text removed when trimming lede

message: *Rudy Giuliani charged over role in fake electors Arizona case, served papers during 80th birthday celebration in Palm Beach, Florida
*https://twitter.com/AZAGMayes/status/1791670260225253814
:*https://archive.ph/5u8LK
*https://www.axios.com/2024/05/18/rudy-giuliani-indicted-arizona-election-trump
*https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/20/rudy-giuliani-served-indictment
2601:646:201:57F0:1CC9:505D:6BD1:16A (talk) 06:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This is already covered at the end of the end of the Indictments section. —ADavidB 15:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Giuliani served Arizona papers