Talk:Valiant Comics

message: There's no real dispute about the information I cite. There a few contradictory interviews given by Shooter while he was still in charge at Valiant, but those can be discounted as standard flacking, mostly insisting that the Nintendo and WWF books were selling successfully. There's really no question that the Nintendo/WWF losses drove a wedge between Shooter and his backers -- Shooter doesn't really argue this point, but says that he shouldn't have been blamed for the failure of other parts of the company, especially those run by Massarsky, for doing enough to exploit the properties outside the direct market. He also says that one reason Massarsky escaped blame was that he was hooked up romantically with a high-placed girlfriend at the venture capital firm, who covered for him. While Triumph was right or wrong to blame Shooter, nobody claims they didn't blame him. Shooter himself is a source for the "resisting the sale" point -- he didn't want to bloat the comics line, to temporarily boost revenues and market share at the expense of the line's long-term health. (He was right, too; sometimes you get fired for being right.) And the description of Layton's post-Shooter position comes from Layton, who probably knows what his job was. N. Caligon 19:37, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shooter firing 

message: It states that certain Acclaim characters were re-imaginings of Valiant characters, yet the same characters appear in both the originals list and recreations lists.  How exactly are they differentiated? MSJapan 06:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some ambiguity in the article... 

message: Right, an anonymous user replaced the link with the edit comment "The writer of the FAQ called them that".  I'm going to place my comments about this here so others can comment.
*One: He isn't really calling them that.  His exact words are "The Valiant characters are often called the most important of those created after the Marvel revolution in the 1960s (when Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four etc. were created), and one of the major justifications is their startling uniqueness."  In other words, he's saying that other people called him that, and he's merely saying that they did.  (Does he agree?  Yes.  But more on that later.)  As is, that page is no more a source for the statement than this article would have been (prior to  or the link being added in).  Besides, the article you're referencing was only authored on July 10, 2006.  The quote in question has been here far longer.  Not the source.
*Two: Let's say that he said "The Valiant characters are possibly [...]", leaving out the qualifiers.  Then he is the source of the quote.  At this point, the next step becomes: is he notable?  HIs bio  notes that he's a "Staff Member" (I'm honestly not sure what the titles mean) of Sequart.com who has collected comic books for over 20 years.  The question is, does that give his opinion anymore weight than that of my local comic shop owner?  I'd argue no (and pull out WP:V Section 3.4 as my basis.)
Finally, I may have inadvertently found the ultimate source of the quote.  He has one other article written on sequart.com: The Ten Most Important Comic Books of the 1990s.  In the text for his number one comic: "In the editorial, VALIANT's Editor in Chief, Jim Shooter, tells us that the book we hold in our hands is the most important since Avengers #1."  It's not exact, but it's close.  Of course, if it's the ultimate source I say the quote goes altogether.  Why?  Because it's the company's founder, editor-in-chief, and writer of that particular issue calling his own comic that important.  It's like if I wrote a play and called it "the most important work since Shakespeare".  Would you believe me?  Of course not.  If he is the ultimate source, I'd say it's the same deal. 
Now, you tell me: why should it currently stay as the source? -- g026r 05:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "FAQ" as Source 

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message: This section under cultural impact
"Futurama: Another Matt Groening creation, this animated television sitcom includes Zapp Brannigan, an arrogant general, who wears a costume nearly identical to the one worn by Magnus Robot Fighter. The primary female character of the show, Leela, shares a similar name with Magnus' love interest, Leeja."
I believe someone is reading too much into coincidences while looking for cultural impacts. Zapp Brannigan is based on Captain James T. Kirk from the original Star Trek which has been clearly documented, not Magnus Robot Fighter. Matt Groening and Billy West described Zapp as 40% Kirk and 60% William Shatner, with no mention of Magnus or any other comic character.
I move this section of 'Cultural Impact' be deleted.Xbriskox (talk) 15:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone Looking to find Valiant in Futurama

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message: Is it really necessary that all the pages for the Valiant contains contain listings of the creative teams? IchiGhost (talk) 19:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creative Teams 

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message: There's a whole era of Valiant missing form this article, both in the history and in the lists of comics titles: their pre-hero titles. They had a line of WWF wrestling comics (Battlemania, Lifestyles of the Brutal & Infamous, etc.), and of Nintendo licenses (Super Mario Brothers, Link, Nintendo Comics System, etc.) I'm not going to write it up myself (I have an arguable conflict of interest), but it should be reflected here. Some of the info can be gleaned from the publisher listing at comics.org. --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing books, missing era 

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