Talk:Dave Stewart (Eurythmics)

message: Rationale for the above statement: Many of the fan sites have been proven to be registered by Interscope Records or do not seem to be entirely independent. Rythm1 spammed all the sites who are suspect in this edit:  Since those websites all contain the same material which has been proven to be false and there are other edits especially on Platinum Weird which are suspect, there is reason to believe that people are editing this page and other pages related to Platinum Weird on behalf of either David A. Stewart and/or Interscope Records. Any removal of sourced data or spreading of the misinformation should therefore be regarded as vandalism and dealt with accordingly. KittenKlub 12:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rythm1's edits (as tagged above)

message: Alisha's Attic?
this site  mentions him. or someone with the same name? Is this likely? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by -Anthony- (talk • contribs) 08:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playing guitar for.. 

message: The page currently refers to Stewart as "taking copious amounts of recreational drugs". That sort of accusation needs to be sourced, and I am removing for now which is a pityCAVincent 08:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  drug use 

message: This article is full of incorrrect statments, repeatedly added by anonymous users. A bot prevents me from restoring the article to what seems to be a correct version. /92.254.216.231 (talk) 14:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Hoax tag is specifically for articles about non-existant subjects. David A. Stewart is really the guy from Eurhythmics, so this article is not a "hoax", per se. If you have problems with information in the article, register an account then (after the account is no longer "new") edit as usual. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Hoax template says "It is believed that some or all of its content might constitute a hoax." Anyone could see that most, rather than some, of the content of this article was more or less unverifiable nonsense. /Dewil (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That tag places the article in Category:Suspected hoax articles, which explains: "The purpose of this category is to list articles that may be hoaxes (prank, fake or joke articles). ... Articles that are not hoaxes but have content or sections of disputed accuracy can have the  or  tag added in appropriate places in the article, which will to draw attention to the disputed content without tagging the entire article as a hoax." - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoax

message: Somebody should fix that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.190.96 (talk) 18:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed! I've edited the reference to the use of that name as a pseudonym to read "Jean Guiot", as per the notes with his CD The Dave Stewart Songbook Volume One. Gwladys24 (talk) 12:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manu Guiot is/was a real person 

message: Dunno if it's worth mentioning, but Dave Steward released his own sensual stimulator in conjuction with Jimmyjane. Some more background information, which can be used as a source, in the case a quote is recommended:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/30/eurythmics-dave-stewart-l_n_154334.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.65.176.233 (talk) 20:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Stewards 'Backstage Pass' 

message: Previously married from 1973 to 1977, Stewart married foyrmer Bananarama member ... "Previously married" to WHO? =//= Johnny Squeaky 19:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Previously married...

message: Per the biographies of living persons and verifiability policies, I've removed a brief reference to a plagiarism accusation as it was inadequately sourced and primary rather than secondary in nature. The sole sources were an anonymous post on a gossip website and a link to the alleged source that was plagiarised. The absence of anything directly linking the alleged plagiarism to the subject of this article was also troubling.  --TS 14:33, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism story

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message: This article constantly refers to this person as "David Stewart", but I thought that when he was performing in the Eurhythmics, he was known as "Dave Stewart". Vorbee (talk) 18:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: David Stewart or Dave Stewart

message: I am no expert on  Dave Stewart, but I am sure that I once heard on a radio quiz programme that he had published an autobiography entitled "Sweet Dreams Are Made of This". If this is correct, it could be added to the article. Vorbee (talk) 09:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Autobiography

message: has added a linked citation to a Daily Mail interview multiple times, ignoring ,  and myself adivising against it in edit summaries; apparently, since I have been shouted at in a summary to , with no mention of exactly which guidelines are being referred to, a more thorough discussion is required. The additions to David A. Stewart are as follows:
*Added by 37.142.153.69 (a confirmed sock IP of Maxim.il89), August 27, 2019
**Removed by Nikkimaria, with a concise edit summary linking to mentioning , August 28, 2019
*Added by 37.142.153.69, August 29, 2019
**Removed by me, with concise ES  (also removed another), August 29, 2019
*Added by Maxim.il89, August 29, 2019
**Removed by me, with ES , August 29, 2019
*Added by Maxim.il89, with ES , August 29, 2019
and to Sunderland A.F.C. (related subject matter; same source) are as follows:
*Added by Maxim.il89, August 27, 2019
**Removed by Newslinger, with a concise edit summary , August 28, 2019
*Added by Maxim.il89, August 29, 2019
There were other edits, but these are the most relevant. I have read many guidelines and policies, and don't remember reading anywhere that unreliable sources were considered reliable when reporting an interview, so I did some more digging. I found this essay, which is quite helpful and sensible; it of course points out that an interview is a primary source at best, but when delivered via an unreliable source like the Daily Mail, is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. So I wondered if "interviews" were mentioned on WP:reliable sources and found they're not, but did find some notes on WP:no original research about interviews, basically just discussing their primaryness.
I am still at a loss regarding what guidelines I should read that state the complete contrary to everything I've come to learn over the course of my time editing Wikipedia. Please let me know Maxim.il89. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 00:36, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The use of the Daily Mail  was strongly discouraged in two extensive RfCs ( and ). In both articles here, the pertinent claims are supported by other reliable sources and the addition of the Daily Mail citation would not improve the sourcing for these claims. The Daily Mail should be excluded in these cases. — Newslinger talk 04:21, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Thing is, it's not original research. It's an interview, and he goes into more details than in other interviews about how he and his father watched Sunderland together.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxim.il89 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Stewart talks about that in his autobiography; primary source, but at least it's not tabloid drivel. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 20:35, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable sources 

message: I've reverted the unilateral decision by  to move the page from David A. Stewart to Dave Stewart (guitarist). 
Regardless of whether he's often known as "Dave Stewart", using the term "guitarist" to distinguish him from Dave Stewart (keyboardist) is questionable. The former isn't known *mainly* as a guitarist by most people, even if that's a significant part of what he does, and choosing to focus on different but arbitrary aspects of each artist's repetoire to differentiate them is a poor choice.
The following recent and/or significant contributors to the page (and anyone else!) are invited to give their opinion if they want to; , , , , , , , , . Thank you!
Ubcule (talk) 21:42, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move reverted 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Dave Stewart (Eurythmics). (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 18:07, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Dave Stewart (musician and producer) →  – I see this has been discussed to death, but is this not a preferable disambiguator per WP:NCPDAB?  The dual-profession qualifier is quite unusual and (as mentioned above) not even unambiguous: one of the other Dave Stewart musicians has a section called  (!). "Eurythmics" is certainly not undue in the proposed title—this is basically a rephrasing of his Instagram username. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 06:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken, but the Eurythmics broke up in 1990.  Dave Stewart has produced, played, on or composed music for literally hundreds of albums hundreds of albums since then. (That's according to Allmusic, so  take it with the mandatory grain of salt.)  Roger Taylor of Queen appears to have no non-Queen credits; Roger Taylor of Duran Duran has only a few. It is reductive to use the dab "Eurythmics musician", particularly since he wrote or co-wrote, produced and performed on most Eurythmics songs as recently as 33 years ago.  However, as noted, this has been discussed to death.  I oppose the name change but not enough to argue it again.  JSFarman (talk) 22:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely understandable, and I don't want you to get sucked into unfun discussion. I considered that Eurythmics is one of multiple aspects of his career, but it also remains his primary identification on first reference (sources found deliberately not using "eurythmics" as a keyword): One half of the 80's British pop duo, Eurythmics (Songwriters Hall of Fame), Eurythmics musician Dave Stewart (LAT), The former Eurythmics musician (Guardian), Songwriter, musician, producer, and Eurythmics co-founder Dave A. Stewart (American Songwriter, talking about his other work), Ex-Eurythmic Dave Stewart (NYT). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 22:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your thoughtful and considered response,  Hameltion.  You have made this discussion way less unfun for me.  JSFarman (talk) 22:51, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

text: Dave A. Stewart.  Please no.   See above. JSFarman (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 October 2023 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Dave Stewart (keyboardist) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  – robertsky (talk) 16:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress