Talk:LGBT rights in South Africa

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message: I apologise if this is just ignorance on my part (and, granted, this isn't exactly an area I'm much knowledgeable about) but I'm not aware of the ANC having supported same-sex marriage during the early 1990s. Is this a mistake or...? Also, the party is not unmixed on the issue of homosexuals - what about now-President Zuma's previous statements, as just one example? There is bias here. I'm going to attempt to balance the slightly pro-ANC information in the article. Does anyone object?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rechtstaat (talk • contribs) 18:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Post-Apartheid" section gives far too much (unsourced) credit to the ANC when in fact actual opposition to LGBT rights in Parliament and during the CODESSA period only came from a few small conservative parties. In fact the official opposition Democratic Alliance has been consistently (and persistently) supportive of LGBT rights to a much greater extent than any of the "liberation-oriented" parties, including the ANC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

text: But it doesn't say anything about same-sex marriage. We can fairly say that the ANC supported a prohibition on discrimination. Without some more we can't say that the ANC expressly supported SSM. - htonl (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

text: And if we mention the ANC we should also mention that the DP and IFP proposals included similar explicit anti-discrimination clauses (source). - htonl (talk) 20:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Same sex marriage was only legalised after a ruling by the constitutional court forced the government to change the law, in a case in which the government lawyers actually argued against legalisation. The ANC's support for non-discrimination stopped short of full marital equality, until they were forced by the ConCourt ruling. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Works for me, though my conflict of interest is fairly similar to yours. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  ANC support for Constitutional inclusion? 

message: Just saw an article about a possible threat to gay rights in South Africa
http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/affirming-their-own-moral-inferiority/
Basically the constitutional review committee has allowed a clause in the constitution, which bars discrimination based on sexual identity, to be put up for debate. Perhaps this should be added to the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geqo (talk • contribs) 12:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, although it could be recentism. If we do add it, we should also include a mention of the statement from the ANC that they were not considering putting it up for debate. (ANC distances itself from gay comments.) - htonl (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: to treat people unfairly and differently is to discriminate someone right 41.116.121.173 (talk) 15:51, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Threat to gay rights in South Africa 

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:Wrapped Magazine no longer exists. Exit Newspaper, www.exit.co.za should be listed and Gay Pages www.gaypages.co.za should be listed. These are both long standing national publications in South Africa.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GR101 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
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message: The section about the blood donation prohibition is just too conveniently silent about the context. South Africa at that time had the highest HIV/AIDS rate in the entire world, also a time when treatment was not as effective as now - it was not then a "live with it" chronic disease. Parts of this article are not neutral, it tends towards a RGW tone. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: RGW? - htonl (talk) 18:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @Htonl "Right Great Wrongs" - the tone of the article in some parts leans a bit towards activism. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blood donation issue 

message: Children should act the way they would like to act,as the leaders of tommorow they are also part of the LBGTQ plus community 41.150.225.153 (talk) 20:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why it should be a mandatory thing the government should check seniors sexuality 

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message: should the LGBTQ+ be accepted in the formal institutions Wiki edia fan page (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should homosexuality be accepted and supported within formal institutions