Talk:Southern belle

message: Hi! This isn't something I know a lot about so I am asking for information: could someone offer examples of southern belles of various races/ethnicities? All the examples in this article are caucasion, and given that part of the definition is "an archetype for a young woman of the American South's antebellum upper class" "nostalgic for a bygone era," I am wondering how this might apply to anyone other than caucasions? If the definition has been appropriated or expanded by (an)other group(s), I wonder if there needs to be a little more explanation? — scribblingwoman 12:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The critical quote represents 30 percent of the text in this article. That seems about appropriate to me. Flyte35 (talk) 00:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

text: Flyte35, please stop abusing Wikipedia for your personal political peeves. The blog entry you've cited has been deleted on numerous occasions and by different individuals. It has no bearing whatsoever on the Southern Belle that the individuals wanting to learn about would visit this article for. This is a community-driven encyclopaedia. Please stop. That notwithstanding, please up your sources. The Southern Belle has had more than her fair share of significantly more thorough investigation in the academic press. If you really want to inject controversies about racism into unrelated articles, you don't have to cite some "opinion piece" on some blog by some person with very questionable qualifications. While you do, make it short. \ng  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.215.25.249 (talk) 07:52, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Since you, anonymous editor, just deleted the Gawker opinion piece, I assume you're concerned about that. Your concern doesn't seem valid. There's prohibition against including opinion pieces, if they're cited as such. Statements of opinion can be presented with attribution. Yes, it's been discussed in talk, but no one seems to agree with you that your edit is necessary or beneficial. Flyte35 (talk) 00:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, it would seem that anonymous users actually happen to be more useful than registered twats. Quit the e-peen act, buddy. Read this talk section. Several people have asked you to stop, something you have kindly ignored. Several people have edited your favourite opinion piece out of the article, which you have successfully reverted despite being asked not to do so. Let's talk about "beneficial" contributions and how many people have agreed with you, shall we? If you want, we can easily escalate this issue and ask for the article to be protected, at which point your vandalism will be audited by non-anonymous users as well. Merry Christmas. \ng  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.215.25.249 (talk) 10:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's not vandalism. Vandalism "is the act of editing the project in a malicious manner that is intentionally disruptive. Vandalism includes the addition, removal, or other modification of the text or other material that is either humorous, nonsensical, a hoax, or that is of an offensive, humiliating, or otherwise degrading nature." That's not what's going on here. This is a normal content dispute. I don't understand why you wish to remove the quote in question, since it's perfectly appropriate to include opinion pieces in wikipedia articles. If you have some objection to the content of the quote, you should explain your concern. That might help us to come to a resolution.  Flyte35 (talk) 02:06, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern belles and race/ethnicity 

message: Shouldn't this article be tagged for citations? It has none. Kellenwright (talk) 04:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Will do so. — scribblingwoman 03:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: The Seidel statement could be better illustrated with examples as well: Scarlett O'Hare, Maggie Pollit, etc. Ismaelbobo (talk) 00:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   Seidel statement 

message: Anyone want to help me with expanding this article with more sources?ExitW3Must (talk) 02:25, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Sources 

message: The article says southern belles had to cover their wrists, but it also says that the picture of Sallie Ward was the symbol of southern belles. Said picture has most of her arm exposed. Clarification? Siúnrá (talk) 13:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrists 

message: There is a properly referenced section in the article on the criticism of the Southern Belle as a racist archetype meant to idealize the slave-owning south. For no adequate reason, the section has been remuved multiple times by IP users over the years, with no adequate explanation as to why. If anybody has a good argument as to why it shouldn't be here, the talk page exists for a reason. 46.97.170.19 (talk) 11:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racist history of the archetype