Talk:Borscht Belt

message: Well the Raleigh just closed. The Pines closed a few years back. I'm going to Kutchers the week after next. Anyone know what happened to the Granit? Are there any others left?
These places are not closing because of assimilation, their problem is that they are all huge buildings with vast running costs delapidated past repair catering to a clientelle that is now used to staying in Mariotts and Sheratons. --Gorgonzilla 01:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't expect Kutchers to last more than a couple of years. It is't cheap but the level of service is low. Mouldy carpets, bad food, roof leaks, overflowing toilets. --Gorgonzilla 23:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  And such small portions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.228.193 (talk) 14:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of the places 

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Is the Borscht Belt really in "upstate" New York? It appears to be in the southern part of the state, which is not traditionally thought of as "upstate" (except to those who live in NYC proper). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.187.10.252 (talk • contribs) 1 July 2006.
: Well, I'm a Long Islander, so Upstate begins in the Bronx. More seriously, I'd use the term for anything past Westchester and Rockland Counties. Our article has a map that seems to say the same. - Jmabel | Talk 20:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "upstate"

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Why does the article single out Ashkenazi Jews?   Is this verifiable?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.42.160 (talk) 02:50, 14/July/06
: Certainly. But it's also obvious: the Borscht Belt originally centered on Yiddish-language entertainment. To say that the audience were Ashkenazi Jews is like saying that the audience for a Polish-language standup comedian is mostly Polish. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to name a Borscht Belt comedian of any note who was not an Ashkenazi. - Jmabel | Talk 00:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Danny Thomas, Lebanese Christian. :-) Why isn't Adams' book mentioned? 85.159.160.202 (talk) 19:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Ashkenazi Jews?

message: The link for Joey Adams gets redirected to Joey Lauren Adams, a talented actress born in 1968.  I do not think she is the Borscht Belt comedian who wrote the book Borscht Belt in 1973.  Did the redirect from Joey Adams to Joey Lauren Adams wipe out a previous article on the older Joey Adams?  Or, was there never a Wikipedia article on the Borscht Belt comedian Joey Adams? r3 21:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like this has been cleaned up to a stub. - Jmabel | Talk 01:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link goes to wrong Joey Adams 

message: It just occurred to me that the map that is used to illustrate this entry is wrong. It shows all of Sullivan and Ulster counties. Actually the old Borscht Belt included just portions of those counties. According to one of my books on the subject, it extended west as far as about White Sulfur Springs, but not as far as Callicoon and further up the Delaware. Same goes for Ulster. I think the map should go, unless an accurate one can be found. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 22:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A better movie in terms of historical accuracy is "Sweet Lorraine," which is available on DVD. It was filmed at the old Heiden Hotel near South Fallsburg. On the timeline of decline, it could be that it was the 40s but I agree that sourcing on that is limited. Actually sourcing for this article in general is not great. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Included the movie more prominently. Marquenterre (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: There was a move discussion in progress on Talk:Borsch, but it ended. Disregard the following: "There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Borsch which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RM bot 03:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

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Heh.
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Heh. Heh. Heh!
Allen Sherman, George Burns, and all the Borscht Belt regulars would have *loved* that one! Please, would-be editors and admins with no sense of humor, leave that one as sacrosanct. It's proof that historical references do *not* need to be dry, dull and boring!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.83.41 (talk) 04:30, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Humor in Article

message: Why was it called the 'Borscht Belt,' as a play on of the Bible Belt? Why not the 'Torah Belt?'--Splashen (talk) 03:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because it lacks alliteration. (Tumblehome (talk) 13:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  "It’s said that the name was coined by the editor of Variety, a guy named Abel Green, who called it the Borscht Belt."  --Gunnar (talk) 20:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

text:  Life magazine from January 31, 1938 writes in an article on Bei Mir Bistu Shein: "The Grossinger Hotel is on the fringe of the Catskills, known as the 'Yiddish Alps' or the 'borscht belt'."  So both terms had been established in the late 1930s, and it is plausible that Abel Green, at the time 37 years old and 20 years in business as journalist and almost 5 years as Variety's editor, was the father of the "borscht belt" name. But it is not plausible that Larry King coined the "Yiddish Alps", as he was only 4 in January 1939. --Gunnar (talk) 12:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Why The 'Borscht Belt?'

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article is something of a mess, filled with uncited claims that read like someone's personal reminiscences and OR observations, plus many WP:DATED violations, which I have tried to address. I've removed some of the more egregious / tangential uncited claims and added citation requests to others. Surely, a topic as researched and written-about as the Borscht Belt has copious published and online sources that can be cited.--Tenebrae (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup and more citing needed