Talk:Phosphine

message: I think the term "substituted phosphine" in the beginning paragraph should be "substituted phosphane". i did not attempt to edit the article since i am not sufficiently certain of this to risk misleading anybody. thanks
I am trying to find out if Phosphine is corrosive to PVC. We have an application to run Coaxial cables down a tunnel below a grain Silo where Phosphine is regularly used as a fumigant. Can Anybody help?
FYI - Phosphine is only corrosive to metals.
:Actually, I believe that phosphine may attack certain plastics too, such as nylon, as well as attacking rubbers and plasticisers. You should be safe with polyethylene or polypropylene.  Not sure about PVC- maybe, maybe not. Walkerma 17:49, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: It's worth noting that phosphine has mutagenic and carcinogenic properties, which is not addressed at all in the Safety section of the article.80.240.162.190 (talk) 11:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? Here it says it is not carcinogenic: http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cpdb/chempages/PHOSPHINE.html. Elsewhere, it is discussed as potential mutagen, but according to this recent document, they claim it is not: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/317737/Phosphine_properties_incident_management_toxicology.pdf 92.194.87.77 (talk) 13:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mutagenic properties of phosphine 

message: I've been trying to discover who coined the term "phosphine".  So far, it appears that the German-British chemist August Wilhelm von Hofmann was responsible.  In 1857, he published a paper announcing the synthesis of organic compounds containing phosphorus, which he named "trimethylphosphine" and "triethylphosphine".
(The French chemist Paul Thénard had prepared such compounds in the 1840s, but the process was dangerous and fraught with difficulties, whereas Hofmann's syntheses were not.)  
Neither Thénard nor anyone else before Hofmann had used the term "phosphine".  Hofmann coined the term "phosphine" in analogy with "amine" (organo-nitrogen compounds), "arsine" (organo-arsenic compounds), and "stibine" (organo-antimony compounds).  See:  A.W. Hofmann and Auguste Cahours (1857) "Researches on the phosphorus bases," Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, 8 :  523-527.  From page 524:  "The bases Me3P and E3P, the products of this reaction, which we propose to call respectively trimethylphosphine and triethylphosphine, … "  
Until then (and afterwards), PH3 was called "phosphoretted hydrogen" — even Hofmann uses the term in his 1857 paper — however, by 1870, Prof. William Odling was calling it "phosphine" in his text Outlines of Chemistry; or, Brief Notes of Chemical Facts ; see p. 78.
VexorAbVikipædia (talk) 09:06, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name "phosphine" 

message: What's the name of NaPH2? Sodium dihydrophosphide? Is sodium phosphanide OK? --Leiem (talk) 15:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: What's the name of PH<sub>2</sub><sup>-</sup>

message: The sentence starting:  "Though the Vega mission probe found" is lacking an alternative.  It would be like writing:  'Though John went to town' -- though what? Wmsears (talk) 16:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete sentence regarding phosphine found in Venus atmosphere ('Possible extraterrestrial biosignature' section) 

message: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/venus-might-host-life-new-discovery-suggests/ Charles Juvon (talk) 01:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: tl;dr Even a more recent one: https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.09852 (discovered thanks to Anton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjq08ErkF1c) Sleeditor (talk) 19:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Venus Observation 

message: As of 2020, no known abiotic process generates phosphine gas on terrestrial planets in appreciable quantities, so detectable amounts of phosphine could indicate life.[19][20][21]
Not true. Coal fires:
Kruszewski, Ł., Fabiańska, M.J., Segit, T., Kusy, D., Motyliński, R., Ciesielczuk, J., Deput, E., 2020. Carbon-nitrogen compounds, alcohols, mercaptans, monoterpenes, acetates, aldehydes, ketones, SF6, PH3, and other fire gases in coal-mining waste heaps of Upper Silesian Coal Basin (Poland) – a re-investigation by means of in-situ FTIR extrernal database approach. Sci. Total Env., 698, 134274, doi: 10.1016/j.scitotenv.2019.134274 Eudialytos (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously. Who wrote this? "Appreciable"? Meaning... what, exactly? There are abiotic processes that produce it. (h/t Thunderf00t). I think Wikipedia shouldn't beclown itself pushing pure speculation. -- Veggies (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

text: What produced coal? Life - so this production method does in fact involve life, albeit in the past. 92.12.86.15 (talk) 10:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abiotic PH3 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Phosphine's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Thompson2020":
From Venus: 
From Life on Venus: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:12, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Phosphine]]