Talk:Byakuya Kuchiki

message: Were there ever any references to Byakuya's age?
--Koudanshi
:I don't believe so. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 14:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think he meant senpai in the direct meaning of the word, but probably because he used to serve under Ukitake, who taught him (senpai are supposed to teach stuff to kouhai). Can't verify this of course, but your claim can't be verified either AFAIK. -- Ynhockey 20:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First header

message: I've noticed that some translations, the letters are swapped around so it reads 'Zenbonsakura' instead of 'Senbonzakura' Is there really much difference? RedEyesMetal 10:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen that before as well. It does have the word part "Sakura" when swapped like that, which is nice. I always thought "Senbonsakura" made the most sense personally, why make it a Z one place and an S the other? --tjstrf 16:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Senbonzakura is the only correct writing. Anything else is wrong. A kanji cannot deviate from its original reading at the start of a word, therefore, Zenbonzakura cannot be correct in any way. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: No. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

text: What happens often when one kanji or element in multi-kanji compounds follows one preceding it is an inflection. It can be a bit complicated to explain... The "za" in "senbonzakura" is part of the second set of sounds of the "sa" 'family' of the Nihongo 'alphabet' (sa, shi/si, su, se, so; (inflected) za, ji, zu, ze, zo). So this adds on to what Ynhockey was saying before about "the correct spelling of Senbonzakura". Juunannio 13:29, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah. There are other examples in Bleach as well, especially in zanpakuto names. 天譴 is Tenken alone, but when coupled with other kanji it becomes Tengen. Another is in the word "Shinigami" itself; in theory, it should be "shini-kami," but it gets changed to a G. Suigetsu 01:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senbonzakura vs. Zenbonsakura 

message: Could someone explain why we need 5 images of Byakuya, 3 of which only illustrate different bankai techniques? We only use 5 pictures to illustrate the entire main Bleach page. This has been bugging me for a while now. The current format is particularly horrid and makes the text into some sort of weird stair-step arrangement. --tjstrf talk 03:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I don't oppose having an image for each bankai technique, although the shikai image sucks. A good article illustrates in pictures what is difficult to understand with words, and IMO this applies to the various techniques. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How hard is it to explain the techniques, really? The shikai makes a bunch of tiny flying blades. The bankai makes a bunch of tiny flying blades. The bankai special techniques make a bunch of large flying blades and wings, respectively. Compared with something like explaining what the kurohitsugi does, it's very simple. --tjstrf talk 10:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean like making a black box around someone, then making black spears inside said box, then dispelling said box/spears, revealing a giant bleeding dog? Suigetsu 01:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many images. 

message: I get a bit confused with the name of his second final release "Senkei" read as 殲景. Annihilation is usually read as "せんめつ" though isn't it?
Wikifried 17:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: せんめつ isn't kanji Suigetsu 23:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Release Kanji?

message: This is the first trivia item: "During the Soul Society Arc, when Jūshirō Ukitake asks who Ichigo is, Byakuya replies: "No relation. At least, not to the man who just flashed through your mind, my senior." This could be a reference to Ichigo's father, Isshin Kurosaki, implying Byakuya not only knew the man, but disbelieves that he and Ichigo are related."
I think it's way more likely that the reference is to Kaien, who was Ukitake's lieutenant.
I agree, because several characters mention that Ichigo looks alot like Kaien. Temari of Suna 19:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bit of Trivia 

message: Well, it seems that there is a bit of a revert war going on, clearly started by myself changing the information regarding what caused Ichigo to become slower during the course of his fight with Byakuya.  The original version stated that it was caused by exhaustion, however if you watch http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQsAzLoMCGE beginning at 3:40, Ichigo's Inner Hollow says, "You really do suck at this, Ichigo! You got beaten by your Bankai's reiatsu (spirit pressure), cracking the bones throughout your body." So I corrected this.  Any arguments?
:Yea, you are correct. We just want to say it breaks his bones because of his reaitsu. Finished.--Hanaichi 04:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Byakuya vs Ichigo, Ichigo weakening revert war 

message: I thought Byakuya mentioned during his battle with Ichigo that he was only the second person who saw his bankai's first extra form. Who was the other? Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 19:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never said. It wasn't Renji though, because Renji got chopped to pieces before Byakuya use senkei. Maybe it was at the captains test where the captain to be had to show his bankai? Speculation though. --Hanaichi 08:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He uses the blades that are formed during senkei against Renji, though he never refers to it as such nor are there nearly as many. ~SnapperTo 20:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those seem more like several of the blades push together into a sword. There are still some left, however, as the simply tiny blades, and Renji could still move, so I think it's safe to conclude that it's the original bankai. And read the Englsih manga, Byakuya;s exact words were "You are only the second person... *new balloon* ...ever to see it.", to which Ichigo responds "I feel special.". Also, I just realized while reading through it, the English translation is "Senbon Zakura", two words, not one. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't the whole idea behind senkei basically several of the blades being pushed together into a sword? ~SnapperTo 21:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea. More like 1000 tiny Senbonzakura petal blade thingies compressed into a sword. Remember, his bankai uses 2 rows of hude swords, scatter them, so evidently you have millions of uncountable petals.(Bleh, what am I saying? Saying millions when I also said uncountable lol) --Hanaichi 09:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, what about him. I mean he's not Tosen, so he would be the other person to see Senkei  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalraptor (talk • contribs) 20:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: During the fight with Renji he said they were uncountable right?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.190.71 (talk) 16:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: He was probably just being dramatic.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 18:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you has a couple million, probably closing in on a billion blades only about an inch long, spinning around you incredibly fast, I think you would call them uncountable rather than look at each individual one. I doubt even Byakuya even knows an exact number.
I dont know, he might actually cut his hair with them, nobility are always eccentric. however perhaps the second person to ever see them line was put in to make us wonder exactly that. it can probably be guessed that they didnt survive however as thats a brutal technique.--74.131.138.130 (talk) 00:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Didn't he... 

message: In episodes 16 and 17, Byakuya doesn't wear his haori, which episode does he start? I assume it would be after he is among the other captains and Kubo came up with the captain's haori.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalraptor (talk • contribs) 20:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably didn't bother putting it on, neither he nor Renji were expecting to have to fight two guys on their way to Rukia. Suigetsu 01:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Captain's Haori

message: Why was the sentence about Byakuya using Yoruichi's technique "Onmitsu - 3rd Way of the Shihou: Utsusemi" removed instead of included somewhere alongside his abilities? (He uses this move in Chapter 299 page 17) AnimeNikkaJamal (talk) 03:46, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to re-read tbe Powers-section -Twsl (talk) 11:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoruichi's Technique 

message: When we cite Diamonddust, particularly when referring to Senkei's ability to block Cero, should we mention its dubious canonicity. Is there a policy regarding this. Stargate70 (talk) 20:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Claims of canon or non-canon do not belong on Wikipedia. The most that can be said about things of questionable authenticity is in what media forms they are true. In this case something like "In the DiamondDust Rebellion Byakuya's senkei is shown capable of blocking cero attacks" would be acceptable/preferable. ~SnapperTo 22:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canonicity of DiamondDust 

message: "After a quick clash using their speed, in which Byakuya is proven superior"
Umm, what? Byakuya wasn't anywhere near superior. He was on the defensive most of the time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.86.225 (talk) 13:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because he wasn't making an active attempt to be superior. During the last portion of their speed standoff, Byakuya eludes Zommari by using a technique he learned from Yoruichi. He's the faster of the two. ~SnapperTo 18:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  byakuya vs zommari 

message: Just curious about this...I'm wondering how 景厳 has been translated as "Vibrant Display"? 
If we assume Byakkun's blade is named after the play Yoshitsune, and we assume that "Kageyoshi" then comes from the historical Futokorojima Kageyoshi who was involved with the setting up of the Kamakura Bakufu and the Minamoto Hachiman shrine in the 1190s, then the weird reading of the kanji is explained...
Kubo hasn't used the same kanji as the historical Kageyoshi,(which is 景能), so I'm not definite that that's the intended connection. However, whether it is or it isn't, the second kanji of Byakuya's zanpakutou Bankai normally means "strict" "severe" or "rigid". I've never heard of it being used to mean "vibrant", so am curious as to where that came from?
Etherella (talk) 20:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of "Kageyoshi"? 

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