Talk:Student-centered learning

message: The whole section on what student centred learning is not is a whole rant against the US school system. It's not world-wide in focus, it's not encyclopædic, and it's deeply tendentious, making it contrary to NPoV. 213.60.65.210 (talk) 05:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I find this page completely misleading and wish to edit it severely.  Before doing that I would like to hear the response of its authors to some criticisms.  My apologies for the brusque nature of this note – I do not have time to write it properly.
1)	… rather than those of others involved in the educational process, such as teachers and administrators. Can you cite any examples of education systems where the aim of the system is focussed on the needs of administrators or teachers?  I am not talking here of subtle nuances where the teacher or administrator starts to loose focus on the objectives of the learning institution, but that the institution is set up to meet the needs of teachers and administrators.
2)	The term Student Centred Learning as used by most people that I converse with on this subject is also referred to as Child Centred Learning.  [Bransford John, Ed., p133 How People Learn, National Research Council] refer to it as Learner-Centered Environments contrasting it with Knowledge and Assessment Centred Learning.
3)	Bransford says:
We use the term learner centred to refer to environments that pay attention to the knowledge, skills, attitudes, and beliefs that learners bring to the education setting.
4)	The essence of student centred is that the students are active learners and construct their own meanings – this does not mean that they set the curriculum – which is implied in the list of characteristics of student centred learning.  Perhaps that might take place in a fringe situation, but this is not what the term means in mainstream education where it has similar general meaning, but with distinct and important differences.  Teachers can adopt a student centred approach and involve the students in a host of decisions, but generally she will control these to meet the needs the curriculum and the whole class, as she perceives them.
5)	I think the list of characteristics you have written is extreme.  You can have student centred learning where students are not working in collaboration with each other.  You can have such learning situations where they are in competition with each other.  You can have learning situations where collaborative learning is taking place but the environment in Knowledge Centred.
6)	I assume I understand the phrase: Students are active participants in their learning.  As it is written it is meaningless.  Even if you are sitting listening to a lecture you are an active participant providing you are not dead and are listening – you are however a passive learner.  I think what you mean is: Students are active learners.  This is a completely different meaning – as per the way Piaget, Papert and other constructionists use the term.
7)	I think a lot of the phrases used in your characteristics of student centred learning need subtle adjustments as per my last point. 
Dave Catlin 10:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Dear Sir/madam
Would you agree to allow the following link to be included under External Links? Children First: the case for child-centred education. The website (of which I am NOT the author!)includes a paper discussing the practical experience of applying a child-centred approach to learning in the Primary school as well as a video of the approach in action.
Yours sincerely
MargyWMargyW (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Permission sought to add an external site 

message: This article could do with some work to make it better. Specifically, how about adding:
* examples of student-centered learning
* ...contrasted with the same content taught in a knowledge-centered way, or other methods of teaching
* a section of the role of Facilitators - perhaps using material from that page and the Facilitation page
* a section on Peer Assisted Learning - perhaps using material from the Peer mentoring article (which would also benefit from a re-write)
* a What student-centered learning is section - the article focuses to much on what it is not 
* links to some videos - there are plenty on the subject Google video search
* some of the ideas above in the first comment - there are some good points there
* possible student and teacher resistance to student-centered learning and how to deal with it (this page on Psychological resistance is long but contains many relevant ideas)
* an explanation of why student-centered learning is so effective - expand on the note in the background section
* references to books and papers on the subject
* requirements of student-centered learning: what it requires of the student
* and what it requires of the facilitator / teacher
* any criticism of the approach
* and any contributions you can make to an In popular culture section
Whitespace (talk) 14:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs work 

message: The article needs work, but let's start with the title: "student-centred" (British spelling) is the least used of all of the variations per Google Ngrams. Is there any objection to changing the title to the common term "student-centered" (American spelling)? (Alternatively, "child-centered" was the common term through ~2000, popularized by Dewey.) czar · · 02:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title change 

message: like most "education" articles, this seems to be little more than a jargon-laden advert for one particular school of thought. 
These schools of thought seem to be differentiated by little more than the jargon they prefer, so this is a bit circular. 
Critical, third-party references are desperately needed.
To my mind, the suggestion that the opposite of "student-centered" should be "teacher-centered" is clearly disingenious. 
The professed aim of "student-centered" approaches, such as "what the child is curious about learning" is much rather the antithesis of content-centered learning (what do we feel is important for the child to learn?). The "student-centered" idea seems to prance about the "emotional needs" or naive a-priori appetites of the student. The opposite of this obviously isn't focussing on the teacher's emotional needs or appetites instead, as is maliciously implied, but much rather on a "traditional" view of education based on the question, what do we, as adults, feel is important for the students to learn. 
I am not going to invest much work here, as the entire topical area seems to be deeply broken and fixing it would be the labour of weeks or months, but this appears to me to be simply too glaring to leave standing without cleanup notices.
--dab (𒁳) 14:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: peacockery

message: Much of what is given, after paragraph one, in the background section is written in highly biased language actively promoting "student-centred learning" (as opposed to simply describing the background of the subject). LeapUK (talk) 09:23, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Background Section 

message: It isn't a field I know much about, but there seems to be a movement afoot, generating controversy and even resistance. Pro. Con. Jim.henderson (talk) 05:40, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summit Model