Template talk:Infobox religion

message: Not sure if this one is motivated? Likely it could be disbanded and its usage transferred to ,  or . Chicbyaccident (talk) 18:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motivated? 

message: What is the intended purpose of the "Possessions" field in this infobox? For some of the pages which use it, it appears to include a list of countries; but it is not immediately intuitive to the reader how these relate to the church body. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 23:44, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possessions field 

message: It seems that at present, the template doesn't have a good place for describing the termination of a denomination.
I'm thinking specifically of 2 denominations that I'd like to add the box to:
(1) The United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America, which was founded in 1958 when the United Presbyterian Church of North America merged with the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.).  The UPCUSA ceased to exist in 1983, when it merged with the current Presbyterian Church in the United States to form the present-day PCUSA.
(2) To add another wrinkle: the Cumberland Presbyterian Church divided from the PCUSA in 1810, but in 1906, the majority (though not all) of the Cumberland congregations rejoined the PCUSA.  So, Cumberland continues as a denomination, but it would be misleading for the infobox to not include some indication of the 1906 departure of the majority of Cumberland's congregations.
Adam_sk 05:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic Denominations

message: Some logos are less than 200px and look bad.  I added a new imagewidth parameter with a default value of 200px.  While you can use values > 200px, you shouldn't.  I updated the documentation to reflect this.
If there is a standard way of getting an image to show at its native size or 200px, whichever is lower, please incorporate that into this template and deprecate the imagewidth parameter.   davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added imagewidth parameter 

message: What are others' opinions regarding the proposed addition of a 'Distinct Fellowships' field?  This would allow groupings within a church to be listed – not quite the same thing as 'Separations'.  See Churches of Christ for an example. —Adavidb 12:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinct fellowships? 

message: I propose adding a "Merged In" field for denominations that have "absorbed" other denominations while maintaining their identity.  One example is the Presbyterian Church in America, formed in 1973.  In 1982, the Reformed Presbyterian Church Evangelical Synod merged into the PCA, but this merger did not produce a new denomination.  The PCA simply grew from the receiving of RPCES congregations. raekwon 16:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good, but what's the best term for this? Is there a preferred one? "Absorbed" would be a possibility, but probably "merged in" would be better. Colin MacLaurin 02:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Merged In"? 

message: I've begun adding this to some of the larger denominations, many of which are episcopal in polity and thus have a single, identifiable leader (e.g. the Pope for the Roman Catholic Church). Can we add a "leader" field with a variable title (like  head_label and head in Template:Infobox University) so that this might be reflected in the box? Lockesdonkey (talk) 01:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also like a leader field. Joshuajohanson (talk) 22:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leader field 

message: I would like an "Official website" parameter added to the bottom of the infobox, please let me know what you think --  $user log (Talk) @ 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds reasonable. School templates have websites. Anyone else? Blarneytherinosaur gabby? 02:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done--Jeffro77 (talk) 14:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Cheers Jeffro77! Blarneytherinosaur gabby? 00:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website 

message: Any objections to my making the topmost purple line not appear if there is no name given? [then you can have the logo serve as the name, etc--useful for church of jesus christ of latter-day saints]? Rogerdpack (talk) 04:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's kind of standard(ish) for infoboxes in general to have a heading like that, so I'd prefer not to remove it.--Jeffro77 (talk) 15:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Looks fine to me. —Angr 07:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Default name at top 

message: Why is the image caption bold? I looked at the code and can't figure out what's making it bold, but it shouldn't be. —Angr 23:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any text in the first column is bold because it inherits the setting from the infobox class. The caption of the image is in the first column (though it spans both columns), and is in the same row as the image. I have added a style property for that row to override the bold formatting.--Jeffro77 (talk) 00:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! It was particularly irritating where the caption was relatively long, as in United Church of Canada. —Angr 01:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption 

message: Though a majority of Denominations would classify under 501c3 i added in this in case it  is not, it can be a very notable detail Weaponbb7 (talk) 00:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This wasn't displaying, but now works. Is there a better explanatory link than 501c3 – one which would include tax status for other English-speaking nations? The current wikilink is too U.S.-centric, yet a link with an explanation is definitely needed for this field.  • Astynax talk 21:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Added Tax Classification status

message: Why are the categories Orientation and Polity being changed to Theology and Governance? Ltwin (talk) 02:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Category names being changed

message: I've gone through and restored/added fields shown in the documentation that were missing in the template (and vice versa). Hopefully, they are now in sync and some fields which weren't displaying should now do so.  • Astynax talk 21:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Although this is the "Christian denomination" infobox, the word "Christian" is not mentioned anywhere on it. Would it be appropriate to add "Religion = ***", between "caption = ***" and "main classification = ***". Obviously, it would always read "Religion = Christian". However, most people look at the infobox first if they want all the main facts laid out, and this change would make it much clearer to anyone briefly looking at an article that the religion is a Christian denomination. Beeshoney - Don't Google it, Woogle it! (talk) 13:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If it would always read Christian, there is no sense in specifying it as a parameter. A possible alternative would be to alter the presentation of the template to make its intent more obvious. However, I am not convinced that this is necessary.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I trust any article where this infobox is used will say pretty clearly in the opening sentence that the denomination in question is Christian. That should be sufficient. —Angr (talk) 17:21, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add "Religion = Christian"? 

message: It does not make sense that in this infobox areas is written with a lower case a, while Website is written with an upper case W.
I think that both should be lower case. However, I cannot find out how to make the necessary change. Please advise me on how to do this. Tomeasy T C 21:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it should be consistent. I went ahead and change it to lower case.  • Astynax talk 02:35, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good. However, my main question was how to change this. I would have been bold and went ahead but I can't figure it out. Tomeasy T C 22:13, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographical ''a''reas versus Official ''W''ebsite 

message: Is it just me, or does this template's name sound inappropiately generic (i.e. an infobox for any organized religion/religious movement) compared to how it's specifically implemented for Christian-only denominations? MarqFJA87 (talk) 01:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It really does Aryamanaroratalk, contribs 19:17, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  General name, very specific implementation 

message: The denominations= parameter has a bug. See Presbyterian Church in the United States of America infobox. The wrong parameter label is displayed. Here is what it displays if data is entered in the parameter:
} 8,351 in 1957
Ping me back. If the data is removed from the template parameter the bug goes away, and no label or data is displayed just like any old blank parameter usually behaves. I tried removing a stray space after the parameter but it did not help. Cheers!  {Talk} 04:26, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: --JFH (talk) 00:46, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denominations= parameter has a bug 

message: What about changing the variable "icon" to "emblem" for wider use? Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:36, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Icon --> emblem? 

message: A liturgy variable would be at hand, perhaps located after the theology variable. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I have managed to implement the variable now. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:25, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liturgy 

message: ... so I think the template needs to be changed for the benefit of those people who haven't heard of scripture.
Adrian816 (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think the words “sacred text” are more meaningful to people than “scripture” 

message: But Template:Infobox religion was also used for Alevi Muslim sect which is NOT a Christian denomination..
Hence,Template:Infobox religion should not merge with Template:Infobox Christian denomination 108.31.250.33 (talk) 01:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Alevi]] [[Muslim sect]] 

message: inter alia: Is there a problem with the width parameter specific to Template:Infobox Christian denomination? Please see background discussion and arguments by  at Template_talk:Infobox#Width?. Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Width problem? 

message: Please see: Template_talk:Infobox_diocese#Part_harmonising_with_Template:Infobox_Christian_denomination. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harmonising with [[Template:Infobox diocese]]? 

message: In quite a few cases the  contains a template like  that has a language name prefix (for instance, Latin:). This doesn't display correctly. When  is given, the prefix is language-tagged (as in this revision of Maronite Church); when it isn't, the entire text is italicized (as in Moravian Church).
I've removed italicization when  is omitted because in that case a template like  is fairly often used in  (search query: hastemplate:"Infobox Christian denomination‎" insource:"native_name" -insource:/native_name_lang *= *[a-zA-Z]/). — Eru·tuon 05:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  native_name cleanup 

message: A couple of years ago, this infobox was moved from "Infobox religion" to "Infobox Christian denominations" diff. Recently, a blocked user has added the former infobox to a number of articles, including Hinduism and Islam diff. Why? Is this in accord with Wiki-policy? User:Drmies, do you know how this stuff works? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:28, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:Infobox religion 

message: I am using this template on another wiki and I don՚t know how to use the parameter ′′full communion′′š
Help is greatly appreciatedš
Kolikojerokoko (talk) 20:40, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Kolikojerokoko. It looks like you can put whatever you'd like in it. Not sure what its intended use is. Killiondude (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

text: It's |full_communion =. Spaces and underscores are not interchangeable in parameter names. A search  indicates the only current use is full_communion = United Church of Christ (1989), United Church of Canada (2019) in Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). If your issue is about the religious meaning then see Full communion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full communion section 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved.  Arbitrarily0 (talk) 16:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:Infobox Christian denomination →  – This is used on numerous religion articles that aren't Christian. There's nothing in the template that is specific to Christianity anyway. The templates "Infobox religion" and "Infobox Christian denomination" were merged after a discussion: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 15#Template:Infobox religion, but for some reason they were merged to the narrower title. Kk.urban (talk) 01:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 4 September 2023 

message: I find the following parameters ambiguous and have suggestions to change them:
*main_classification = (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc.)
::this should be "Religion." Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. are religions, not "classifications."
*orientation = (Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, etc.)
::These are branches of Christianity. No one calls them "orientations." I recommend renaming the parameter "branch"
*theology = (main theology, e.g. Calvinism, Arminianism, Baptist)
::These are denominational families within Protestantism. I recommend renaming the paramter "denominational family," which is how many of our articles are worded and has a defined meaning.
*polity = the appropriate ecclesiastical polity
*governance = type of governance and/or governing body of the denomination
*structure = organizational structure for groups that do not employ a standard ecclesiastical polity
::What is the difference between polity, governance, and structure? What are you supposed to put in "structure?" I recommend deprecating governance and structure.
-- JFHutson (talk) 22:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hopelessly ambiguous classification parameters