Talk:Cornwall/Archive 5

message: "Necrothesp, 'English' is a competing identity with 'Cornish' as, in fact, it has been for others within this island generally.  You are an outstanding example of how suppremacy of this island was achieved by the Anglo-Saxon and then 'English' (also euphemised as British) Imperialism over the past 1500 years - a process still very much active within Cornwall today.  I have no doubt that you hold your view of identity sincerely, but it is incredible that as, allegedly, a Cornishman that you have found it so easy to dismiss what has long been an ongoing debate within our Cornish Duchy - and talk pages of wikipedia."  
"I do not consider my sensibilities to be "more important" than yours, but I do feel that they are equally as important to be considered and respected.  My sensibility respects the rights of the Cornish people to exist and to be seen to exist and, by inference, the rights of others.  Yours, on the other hand is built upon historical misrepresentation, repressive lies and deceit, and some inate imperial desire to destroy.  You, of course, will neither see this nor accept it! Probably best if we leave it there! -- TGG 12:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Once again, I must emphasise that this is your opinion, whereas you seem to treat it as a fact. I do not dismiss the debate or contest the fact that some Cornish people hold that opinion, nor that they have a right to do so. I certainly have said nowhere that the Cornish have no right to exist or to be seen to exist, and I would never say such a thing. But what I do contest is your view that your opinion is the truth and your incredulity that anyone else could see it otherwise. In my turn, I find your opinion and the way you express it a shining and very sad example of how hatred is perpetuated and will never be laid to rest. That, of course, is only my opinion! -- Necrothesp 13:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a single quote from your own post: "Yours, on the other hand is built upon historical misrepresentation, repressive lies and deceit, and some inate imperial desire to destroy." If that's not offensive against the English (and therefore, by extension, myself) I don't know what is. I would point out that I was merely trying to point out that yours was not the only view; it was you who chose to turn the discussion into a forum to insult the English. -- Necrothesp 00:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the cap fits, then wear it!  I have never pointed any finger at the English people either as a human community, or as individuals, (many of whom are friends and relations) and treat people as individuals (wherever and whenever).  You have chosen to interpret what I said without seriously thinking about what I was saying.  I certainly hold accountable for Cornwall's ill, those who are parasitic purveyors (innocent or otherwise) of the inertia of English Imperialism and fully paid up members of the English Hegemony.  Something that you will find explained in some detail on the TGG website.  The use of the English flag on Cornish pages is neither innocent nor NPOV! -- TGG 13:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Cornish Town/Village info boxes 

message: I ask again, can you guys please take this discussion to your respective talk pages rather than clogging up the Cornwall page.  This  discussion is becoming increasingly off topic and nothing new is being said.  Talk pages are for discussing aspects of improving the article in question, not for rambling political discourse Mammal4 14:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Off topic discussion

message: Since it is only a very small portion of Cornwall's population, does this lengthy discussion really belong in the intro? I seems to contain very little real information (just specifics and citation that can be moved) that isn't already in Language, and is probably only there because of media attention and the like effectively blowing it out of proportion. In Ireland we all know about it for reasons obvious to most in Ireland (and probably the rest of the British Isles), but such is not reson to give it mention in the opening paragraphs. While the language may be important to the area's history, and so the attempt to revive it a point of interest, it still seems completely unnecesary. I think at least an explanation of why such a small thing gets such prominent mention is in order. Anyone agree? elvenscout742 10:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language issue in intro...