Talk:Jāti

message: Jati - atleast the way it's practically used in the indian society - is the indian word for "caste" in india. I think the introduction should make a note about this.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barunskumar (talk • contribs) 00:53, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of caste 

message: Hi, request those who are watching this page to contribute to the discussion at  Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Caste_identification on whether mentioning a person's caste (Jati) requires that person to explicitly say that he belongs to XX caste (like in the case of religion and sexuality), or whether caste identity is objective and knowable enough (like ethnic background) to be ascertained without producing proof that the person explicitly identified with a particular caste. For example, can we identify Mulayam_Singh_Yadav as a Yadav based on newspaper articles etc., or whether we need proof that Mulayam Singh Yadav has explicitly accepted 'Yadav' as his caste (by saying, for example, something like "I am a Yadav".) Sreejiraj (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of Caste in biographies- does it require the individual's self-declaration?

message: Merged in JATI. Ended up removing most of that text as it was quite irrelevant in addition to needing lots of copy-editing. The text is below, in case someone else thinks it's worthy of merging in. Ambarish | Talk 06:21, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged in [[JATI]]

message: I feel that this article really omits a great deal of information about the social and economic processes by which occupational caste identities have historically been formed in India, over a number of centuries, but especially since the seventeenth century AD.  Also, the impact of colonial rule on the classification of castes on occupational lines, and the discriminatory British policies that thus arose are given no mention.  It could do with some some discussion of the flexibility of these identities as well, and perhaps some examples of the manner in which social groups have historically pursued, and often attained (if not outright created), new occupational caste identities in order to further their social mobilisation.  I can probably add some of this at some point, but right now I have exams to be revising for!  Benwilson528 13:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deficiencies

message: "In Hindu society each jāti typically has an association with a traditional job function", this is against the Vedic teachings. According to Vedas all human race has started from Brahma. So, every ones Jati is the Jati of Brahma. One who says this is wrong is a Nastik, as he/she is not following the Vedas. Cheers BalanceΩrestored Talk 10:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no place for anything closer to Jati-being-related-to-Profession in the Vedas. This is a 100% corrupt human creation. Nastika is a person who do not authorize the Vedas. One who started this Jati=Profession are the highest type of Nastika in India.BalanceΩrestored Talk 10:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jāti

message: Merging Jati with Caste System of India does not make sense. Jati is not synonymous with caste. The caste system constitutes jati and varna, and therefore each of those need to be components in an article about caste, but also require separate articles. If the template is not removed within a week, I'm going to remove it. NittyG (talk) 04:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: No Merge

message: The list of jatis by varna provided in the article presented a huge risk of IP tampering, and was completely uncited. I have removed this list rather than risk readers being misled. I suggest that if we are to restore the list in some form, it must be in a less-tamperable format (protected template, image as seen at 36 royal races, etc) to prevent absolutely inevitable IP attempts to "re-class" given jatis just based on personal opinion or caste-cruft. Dif for the hack is here: 
Discussion has been posted at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Varna_list_at_J.C4.81ti_-_any_basis_in_RSs.3F, your input appreciated. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed list due to tampering risk and total lack of footnotes 

message: One unsourced sentance of the article states that "Tharu Boxas consider even Brahmins as untouchables". What is this Tharu Boxas? Can anybody give informaion about Tharu Boxas?-Rayabhari (talk) 15:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tharu Boxas 

message: 'For instance, the Yadavs, a prominent backward class'  Backwards? Says who? And in what way are they backward? Do you mean that they don't have a lot of social prestige? Or that they are from rural background aka hicks? I might be misreading this, I have English as a second language, but this phrase struck me as odd. I'm not a wiki-editor, feel free to disregard/delete/whatever I wrote. 87.211.115.30 (talk) 00:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: Citation 5, "India between 1700 and 1950 AD..", comes from a personal growth blog and not a respectable publisher. The citation seems to reference the People of India Survey mentioned in the blog post. Maybe we should find the statistics inside the actual survey instead (and perhaps preliminarily judge whether it's a worthwhile survey to begin with). 2600:1014:B000:4991:0:56:E8B0:6901 (talk) 16:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Chariotrider555 (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 5