Talk:Sager orphans

message: Yes, for the record this was rewritten/translated by a native German speaker--he's from Austria anyway :). Katr67 13:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I became more convinced of that after seeing the use of commas and some of the phrases literally translated from the obscure tenses.  The first orienting clue was the German-specific spelling of Laramie as Laremie.  Funny how one notices those things when traveling....  —EncMstr 17:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: The photo of these three women is not the Sager daughters..I have this same photo from my family albums that says these are the Ramson sister, Matilda, Augusta and Alvina Ramson. Alvina was married to Rudolph Sager. Somehow this photo has been misidentified. I have photos of these women when they were younger, also, and the likeness to the women in this photo is unmistakeable.
Linda G. Westrich —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.228.129 (talk • contribs) 17:19, June 20, 2007
:Here's the url the image was sourced from: http://www.nps.gov/archive/whmi/educate/whmitg/3whmi4.htm Latr, Katr 21:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please check the URL above and take up your complaint with the National Park Service, which we consider a reliable source, though of course they could be wrong. The caption on the picture there says, "Catherine Sager Pringle, Elizabeth Sager Helm, and Matilda Sager Delaney. Taken at the 50th anniversary commemoration, November 1897. (Photo identified by family members and historians.)", however. Katr67 01:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I hope this helps! I'll post again when I hear back from them. Katr67 (talk) 05:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Was this issue ever resolved? Maybe this photo would help? ..? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: I have contacted the National Park Service on behalf of Ms. Westrich, as she has given no indication whether she has done so. Here is the text of my message:
Hi, I'm a volunteer editor at Wikipedia and in our article about the Sager Orphans: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sager_orphans an editor used this image from your website (which we understand to be in the public domain):
http://www.nps.gov/archive/whmi/educate/whmitg/3whmi4.htm
You can see the attribution here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Catherine%2C_Elizabeth_and_Matilda_Sager.jpg
Unfortunately, someone thinks that your identification of the image is incorrect, which you can read about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Catherine%2C_Elizabeth_and_Matilda_Sager.jpg
And here: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sager_orphans#Picture
I don't know how to contact Ms. Westrich, since she is editing using an dynamic IP, but I thought I would try to intervene on her behalf. Like I said in my postings on Wikipedia (as User:Katr67), we consider the NPS to be a reliable source, but I thought I would let you know of this person's concern on the chance that she may be onto something. If possible, please let me know if you can (or can't) reassure us of the accuracy of the description of the image and what further steps should be taken. Thanks for your time and attention! 
[My Real Name]
:I hope this helps! I'll post again when I hear back from them. Katr67 (talk) 05:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Was this issue ever resolved? Maybe this photo would help? ..? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Image talk:Catherine, Elizabeth and Matilda Sager.jpg]]

message: In the lede of the massacre article it says 15 people were killed, but the text seems to indicate only 13 people total were killed, including the Whitmans. Do we a have definitive source for the number so we can be consistent across all the articles dealing with this event? I think the recent changes to the number in this article may have been in good faith. Katr67 (talk) 19:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The lede says 15 people were murdered, but maybe that figure includes Helen Mar Meek and Louise Sager, who weren't murdered, but died later in captivity? Katr67 (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of deaths at [[Whitman massacre]] 

message: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073686/
At the start of the 1974 film Seven Alone (just watched for 1st time last wkend as a TV afternoon movie), it said it was based upon Catherine Sager's account of her family's Oregon Trail experiences. It left the impression that the Whitmans lived in small cabin alone on the edge of the Willamette, that John Sager had successfully kept his siblings alive after a perilous trek on their own since the wagon train adults wanted to separate & farm them out to various families, was able to take up an Oregon homestead in their parents' stead, & they all lived happily ever after together. Looked up something else, clicking one link led to another as oft occurs here, had to click once more when I saw their family name mentioned having so recently seen the film, & was surprised to discover the unhappy ending to the Sagers' story.
Since I'd be putting it into the article under something like an 'In film' heading, would it be OK to use the IMDB link? I know IMDB isn't considered a reliable source, but I'd merely be citing its existence. ScarletRibbons (talk) 10:08, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seven Alone 

message: I am in no way trying to minimize the tragic circumstances those who were held endured, but I have to ask; why does it say "Several of the prisoners died" when the article implies only 5 of the 54 people died? 50.64.119.38 (talk) 07:48, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hostages 

message: Distant Relative Of The Sager Family.
Lives In Montgomery, Alabama with 5 brothers and 4 sisters.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.120.232.63 (talk) 00:01, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wayne Mark Sager