Talk:John Sullivan (Oklahoma politician)

message: Contrary to some recent edits to this article, there is no debate that there are 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States.  Even though that figure was written on campaign literature distributed by the Sullivan campaign (which I saw with my own eyes), no credible institution touts that number as accurate.  The Pew Hispanic Center, "a nonpartisan research organization supported by The Pew Charitable Trusts," one of the leading think-tanks in America, reported 12 million or less. Wikipedia's own article Illegal immigration to the United States also uses that figure, as do international news organizations, such as Reuters, and famous research institutions, such as Yale University.
* http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.php?ReportID=61
* http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSNASU6300220070701
* http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=10296
Please do not inject non-NPOV language or weasel words into the article.  It is critical that all claims have serious, reputable sources behind them. Poldy Bloom (talk) 06:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of illegal immigrants 

message: I have twice posted a status on the arrest/detention for Rep. Sullivan's assassination threats against US Senators.  Twice, it has been deleted, probably by his staff.  It is in the public interest to see how long it takes for someone to get arrested for assassination threats against US Senators.  If a member of the general public made the threats, the arrests would have been immediate.  Coming from a coalition that brought machine guns to town hall meetings, Sullivan and his people should be taken at their words on such threats.
173.28.218.168 (talk) 00:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrest Status on Assassination threats against US Senators 

message: Above I explained that I work for Representative Sullivan and my goal here is to make sure that information in this article is encyclopedic, neutral and follows Wikipedia's guidelines for biographical articles. One area of the article that needs to be revised is the paragraph focusing on Dave Pearson. This was not a major event for the Representative and the explanation here seems overly long. Not to mention, I see that the sources are a blog and a letter from the campaign treasurer to the FEC, neither of which are preferred sources for Wikipedia, based on what I have learned. While arguably the events should be included, a summary would work better and be more encyclopedic. I've written the following to suggest as replacement text for the current paragraph, with new sources from the Associated Press and Tulsa World:
:In 2003 former campaign consultant Dave Pearson filed an FEC complaint against Sullivan over a disputed debt. FEC officials did not address the merit of the complaint filed by Pearson, but in the settlement the commission "cited a law that requires even disputed debts to be listed on campaign finance forms." Sullivan negotiated a settlement with the FEC in 2004 to list the disputed debt on his FEC filings.
If this meets with the approval of editors here, can it be added into the article replacing the current text? Thank you in advance. --EdwardDC (talk) 21:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: the whole incident appears to be WP:UNDUE - i have removed the whole paragraph. -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assistance with wording regarding Dave Pearson  

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