Talk:History of cartography

message: Which part/section may not represent a worldwide view/your view? - Explain.
I've just created this page as a branch from the cartography article. In the process I added some content and did some copyedit, but it still needs a *lot* more work to make it both globally relevant and historically comprehensive. Some missing areas I can think of:
*Africa map traditions
*India pre-British
*North America maps pre-colonization
*Persian mapmaking
And probably a lot more.
Also, I know nothing about images - some help there would be fantastic! HMAccount 23:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: I have added a link to a new page I created on pictorial maps - JLR-mapman 01:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictorial maps 

message: I remember being taught that in earlier times maps would show large white regions that hadn't been explored, for instance parts of Africa. What is the term for such "white areas"? __meco (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncharted regions 

message: In the article as it currently stands, both Pythagoras and Eratosthenes are said to have been the first to describe the world as having five temperature zones: a hot equatorial region, two temperate regions, and two cold polar regions. Neither statement has a citation. If both cartographers did so, then Pythagoras would be the first (since he died approximately two hundred years before Eratosthenes was born). If a reference can be found for neither statement, can Eratosthenes's section be changed to reflect the fact that he was the first to calculate the tilt of Earth's axis, a related achievement listed on his bio page?
(I'm not an expert at all on this subject. I just noticed the contradiction while skimming through the article. I'm sure they both can't be right, but I wouldn't know where to begin research to provide references for them.) Shpowell (talk) 03:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's been a while, I edited the page to say that Eratosthenes also divided the world into 5 zones, but not that he was the first to do it. Shpowell (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction of statements 

message: Rotated version shows geography better.
Peter Mercator (talk) 16:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotated de la Cosa map 

message: I see at least two problems with how the article is structured:
1. There are separate sections on Greece, Rome, and Europe. This obviously doesn't make geographic sense (how ironic). The Europe material begins in the middle ages, as if to imply that everything before that was not European.
2. The starting point of modern cartography is not explained and seems quite arbitrary. 
The easiest solution for the first problem is to re-name the Europe section to something like "Medieval and Early Modern Europe". That way, ancient Greece and Rome can logically stay separated. (I would still have a problem with that, because the medieval European map makers were heavily influenced by Greco-Roman work. But at least it would be an improvement over what we have now.) 
As for the second issue, there are no easy solutions. At the very least, someone has to write a few remarks about what constitutes "modern" cartography, and why some map makers are omitted from this section despite being contemporaneous with map makers who ARE in included in the section. It would also help if the modern section read less like a stub and more like an careful discussion. 108.175.224.175 (talk) 16:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree that any changes need to be made, though I see your point.  (Greek and Roman maps focus on those entities not necessarily including the entire European continent.)  I think renaming the Europe section as you've described is a good fix.  I'd have to do some research to determine how to define "modern" cartography.  I think it would have to be after the Age of Discovery once the true size of the Earth had been proven. SwordsmanRyan (talk) 02:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sections of the article 

message: The first paragraph of the section titled Early Greek Literature contains the sentence "The enclosed map, which represents the conjectural view of the Homeric world, was never created by him.", but I do not see the map this refers to. So I'd guess that this passage was taken verbatim from some other source and should be edited, probably by just removing that sentence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.89.1.119 (talk) 18:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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message: The first sentence of the article seems to have an unverifiable claim that maps have been made for "millions" of years: "Cartography, or mapmaking, has been an integral part of human history for millions of years." Maybe it would be better to suggest something like, "for at least 25,000 years ...", and then give an example via citation or footnote. Another alternative would be to acknowledge that the world's oldest map is a matter of debate. "Millions of years" seems like hyperbole that was probably not intended.
Hofmann3900 (talk) 13:59, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Sentence (how long have maps been made?) 

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message: Have a look at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56648055 which is a report on the Saint-Bélec Slab, a 4,000-year-old map. It certainly deserves a mention in cartography articles, and maybe its own page as more information emerges.
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