Talk:Pygmalion (play)

message: Perhaps Shaw meant that Higgins "brought Eliza to life" for the lonely language scholar the same way Venus brought Galataea to life for the lonely sculptor. Uncle Ed 12:22, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Concept

message: Removed this from article:
"In the scene where Eliza is practicing her "H's", she sits down in front of a spinning mirror attached to a flame. Every time she says her "H's" correctly, the flame jumps. If you look closely at the paper she is holding in her hand when it catches fire, you will see handwritten upon it the dialog that she and Professor Higgins have been saying previous to this. "Of course, you can't expect her to get it right the first time," is the first line written on the paper."
It would be more appropriate in the film's article - I think its about the 1964 film. Jihg 17:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: Eliza was an uncommon name in England at the time of the play? I'd like to see the evidence for that. In fact, the way that Higgins and Pickering tease her when she first arrives with the rhyme "Eliza, Elizabeth, Betsy and Bess..." suggests that the audience was assumed to be very familiar with the name as a variant of Elizabeth.
I have no evidence, so it's not going in the article, but Shaw may have been aware of the Eliza Armstrong case, where a girl was bought for five pounds, exactly Doolittle's sum. (Although, admittedly, he said that if he'd suspected immoral ends he'd have asked fifty.)
Steve Graham (talk) 19:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Eliza?

message: This article is consistently undergoing massive editing.  Further large edits should be explained in the talk page so that everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Jeni Mc 14:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: "It is indeed a very hard job but both the men are up for the bet!"  This sounds like a POV.  Statements like this could be reworded.  Thanks!  Jeni Mc 14:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Act 3

message: Should this entry make any mention of the 2007 Broadway revival of the play currently starring Claire Danes? Pesatros 03:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 Broadway Revival

message: I have removed "George Bernard Shaw is the only person to have been awarded both a Nobel Prize (Literature - 1925) and an Academy Award (Pygmalion - 1939)." from Trivia, as it is no loger true (Al Gore).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.136.185.81 (talk) 09:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded it as "was the first person..." in order to make it still true.   --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 11:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nobel and Oscar

message: This has been dispersed elsewhere in the article: the unreferenced fact has only moved into the Footnotes which often happens. No objection to getting rid of it.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Were you looking at an old version of the article? The unreferenced fact moved into the footnote was moved to an approximately appropriate place with a reference, about five hours before your comment above :-) Shreevatsa (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My comment was made after your first edit: I dispersed part of the Trivia on one occasion and the rest some time later. Removing the Trivia does not mean moving every item into the perfect place and checking all the dubious statements.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia 

message: Isn't the movie "Pretty Woman" based off of Pygmalion/My Fair Lady?  Cngcng (talk) 02:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Adaptations

message: In Siwtzerland and Germany it is assumed, that the missaliance of Elise Egloff (article only in the german Wikipedia) and professor Friedrich Gustav Jakob Henle could be the inspiration for Eliza Doolittle and prof. Higgins. Henle was professor at Heidelberg University and so Henry Sweet knew the story from there. Some german and swiss authors applied the story litarily, for example Gottfried Keller in the novella “Regine”, which was reviewed by The Spectator and the Saturday Review. More Information (German): here.  --Superikonoskop (talk) 09:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eliza Doolittle / Elise Egloff 

message: I have been beefing up Template:Pygmalion. Maybe I am losing my intellectual steam or something, but I find myself unable to determine which of the following belong in the template:
;Maybe
#Lady for a Day
#Pretty Woman
#The King and the Beggar-maid
#Invitation to the Castle
#Professor Pyg
;Probably not
#Here Comes the Groom
#Periya Idathu Penn
#Kathputli
#Australian Princess
--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  07:50, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am unsure which films and books after 1956 should be in Template:Pygmalion and/or Template:My Fair Lady.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  05:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Pygmalion]] 

message: I have been attempting to refine improper linking to Pygmalion (play) and Pygmalion (mythology), and I could use some assistance cleaning up , , and  (the latter two which I have recently created). I have posted some particular issues in the thread above. Please feel free to jump in and edit the templates or leave comments there.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  15:53, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pygmalion issues help wanted 

message: Can anyone clarify when Pygmalion was first presented to the public? I would love to edit this myself but have no data. The introduction says it was first presented in 1912, but the First Productions section says 1913.
Also can anyone re-write this: "She came on board almost immediately, but her mild nervous breakdown (and its doctor-enforced seisure, which led to a quasi-romantic intrigue with Shaw) contributed to the delay of a London production"? I have no idea what it's supposed to mean or I would take a crack at it. 
Ivesiana (talk) 22:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First presented to public 

message: "2602:301:7754:AA0:5AB0:35FF:FE5D:C16F" has inserted a strange and as far as I can tell, totally invented "tragic ending" for the play. I've removed it. 11 Arlington (talk) 23:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a parody of the ending of Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen. Paul B (talk) 18:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted apparent vandalism 

message: I wanted to add a short section (most likely only a few sentences) about the play's critical reception and I was wondering if anybody had any input regarding where in the article that should go. Not sure if it would be more appropriate in the First Productions section or in the Influence section.128.239.198.52 (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reviews 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: *  This article discusses the role of gender and discrimination in a woman’s life. The introduction examines the importance of “…the conditions and the period in which the play was written” (1). Many writers incorporated “the ugly reality of Victorian society…” (1) in their works. As the article continues the author discusses gender discrimination and how Eliza is treated as an object. The text also points towards the idea that Shaw portrays women as victims. However, at the same time, women try to attract men’s attention. Overall, “Sexism or Gender Discrimination in George Bernard Shaw’s Pygmalion” explores many valid ideas regarding “Pygmalion” by exploring the perceptions of men and women. The text primarily implies that disregarding women is achieved through the actions of both men and women. Women try to gain men’s attention which causes men to treat them as objects. 
-Haley.carter1 (talk) 8 March 2020 
*  In this reprinted note, Gainor argues that Eliza is a victim of the three father figures in her life: Doolittle, Higgins, and Pickering. Each have certain expectations of Eliza and attempt to make her in the image they desire. —Grlucas (talk) 16:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annotated bibliography of new critical sources, spring 2020 

message: I apologize for the social media junk left in one of the citations I added. I was working in WP:Visual Editor with the Citoid service. I've reported this as a bug. Elizium23 (talk) 02:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citoid junk 

message: When, according to the script itself, is the play set? Does it take place in "present day" (ca. 1913 = Edwardian England)? Thank you, Maikel (talk) 10:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Era