Talk:Halloween/Archive 6

message: Just a note since you're listing traditions in particular US cities: In St. Louis, MO children are often required to tell a joke or sing a song to receive candy. I have so far not found this in any other cities. Lowiepunk 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is actually very reminiscent of some of the Irish and Scottish guisers' customs associated with Samhain.  See this section of the article: --Kathryn NicDhàna 22:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Halloween in various nations

message: I don't want to adjust an entry that has a problem with vandalism, so I am just bringing this to the attention of whoever owns the article.
The opening paragraph doesn't make any sense.
"Halloween originated among the Celts in Ireland, Britain and France as the Pagan Celtic harvest festival, Samhain. Irish, Scots, Calan Gaeaf in Welsh and other immigrants brought versions of the traditions to North America in the 19th century. Most other Western countries have embraced Halloween as a part of American pop culture in the late 20th century."
This should be adjusted to:
"Halloween originated among the Celts in Ireland , Britain and France as the Pagan Celtic harvest festival, Samhain (Calan Gaeaf in Welsh). The Irish, Scots, Welsh and other immigrants brought versions of their traditions to North America during the 19th century."
Further, this sentence is ambiguous, "Most other Western countries have embraced Halloween as a part of American pop culture in the late 20th century."
I can't decide if the author wants to convey that "other Western countries" recognize that Halloween is a part of American pop culture OR if they adopted Halloween because they wanted to emulate American pop culture. I suggest:
"By the second half of the 20th century, celebrating Halloween by children dressing in costume and going door-to-door asking for treats had become an American pop culture phenomenon. By the end of the century most Western countries had adopted customs similar to those in the United States despite the day's European roots."
Mensch 00:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Paragraph 

message: I came across this Halloween search engine - what does everybody think of it?
--Kartoony 10:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The sentence
"Most Catholic parishes see no harm, and Cahtolic parochial schools in America typically have "
should be spelled Catholic
A.Freiberg@cenit.de
19:04 29.10.2006
84.160.242.87 18:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  a typo "cahtolic" 

message: Here in Canada UNICEF has discontinued the orange collection boxes. I can't really tell from their web site, or from the news article I referenced, whether this is just in Canada, or if it is more widespread. Have they cancelled it where you live (other than in Canada)? I wrote "In 2006 UNICEF discontinued their Halloween collection boxes in parts of the world" for now. Basho 03:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicef orange collection boxes anywhere in 2006? 

message: Within the 'England' section there is a mention of 'Mischief Night' celebrated on 4th November. The author states that it is a Yorkshire tradition. However, it is also a tradition in the Northwest of England. Furthermore, it is believed that it originated from Catholic homage to the 5th November plot (ie: The mischief of the Gunpowder plot) and has nothing to do with Hallowe'en. I would be very grateful to anyone who can shed any light on this issue. — Smicer7
19:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Over in the U.S mischief night is actually thought of as the day before halloween, and that's when the pranks take place here. Generally the cops are out in good force because it can get pretty nasty sometimes. Henry Corvel 02:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where in the US? Just curious; I've lived in the South, the Northwest and the Midwest, and I've never heard of it in the US before now. -- Weirdoactor 03:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mischief Night

message: I don't think the Philippines warrants a mention as an example of countries where Halloween is becoming popular. There are many other countries where this tradition is gaining popularity. — 58.89.4.79 23:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halloween in the Philippines?