Talk:Gemini Saga

message: *Changed it back to "Supreme Pontiff" from "Pope" for the following reasons: 1) "Supreme Pontiff" (Pontifex Maximus) can be used to reference the Pope or a Pope-like figure, the latter of which is basically Arles' character; 2) Bandai's toyline labeled the character as the "Supreme Pontiff" -- it's about as official as it gets, until Kurumada himself comments on it.
** I don't agree. First, we can't trust any "official engrish" translation coming from the japanese, since it changes all the time and isn't always the most accurate version. Don't forget that the japanese aren't fluent with ANY foreign language, not even english. As for Bandai's action figures, in their all new "Saint Cloth Myth" collection, they released Shion as the Pope, in the front of the Box it's written "Kyōkō Shion" in japanese, but at the back, in roman letters, they wrote "Grand Pope Shion" (with the "grand" coming probably from the french translation). As for the "Supreme Pontiff", it appeared on the box of the action figure of 1988, but it was only on the HK version. The original japanese packaging was totally untranslated, thus the "supreme pontiff" isn't official.</br> Second, "Kyōkō" is the exact word for "Pope". "Supreme Pontiff" is indeed a synonym of "Pope", but the 2 words are nonetheless different. Folken de Fanel 15:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pope or Supreme Pontiff?

message: Where does the technique name "Dimension of Exile" come from?  As far as I know, in the original Japanese manga and anime, the name (said in English) is "Another Dimension".  Is it yet another mistranslation by Viz or is it a fan-made name?  Google tells me nothing.  Sera404 04:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dimension of Exile"? 

message: There are plenty of fighting techniques described for Saga but only a few of them are "officials":  Another Dimension, Galaxian Explosion (told in the encyclopedia of manga tome 28) and GenroMaoken (taizen).
I do not deny Saga has the abilities described but in my opinion you should put this as a remark, as it could lead to confusion if it is placed at the same level as the ones I have cited above. Moreover, Shadow Gemini and Maze of Shadow and Light are very specific aspects of Saga "illusion powers", in my view you could regroup them under this appellation. For the sense-removing attack, Saga also precises that Seiya was such tired and in bad position the attack was easy. 
Before Saint Seiya Part> "Saga is perhaps one of the oldest Gold Saint at the age of 28" why this perhaps? :-) he is the oldest one with Aiolos apart from Dohko and Shion.
Trivia Part> "The Gemini Gold Cloth belongs to BOTH Saga and Kanon, as Masami Kurumada showed in his manga, Saga says to Kanon : You are a Gold Saint who has prepared to take my place if I die", during the Poseidon arc."
Excellent remark, but you could also place it at the very beginning of the Kanon page. I have seen on some saint seiya fora that the idea of Kanon being a Gemini Gold Saint is not obvious for everyone, but this citation, with a phrase of the Saint Seiya Taizen "He [Kanon] succeded to Saga in being the Gemini Gold Saint, the last will of his twin brother." is very clear: he is the Gemini Gold saint, after his brother :-)
Harsiesis 20:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Techniques and Trivia 

message: He can generate multiple beams only by lifting his arm.
This is NOT a special technique (moreover, the term is improper, kosokuken would be better to describe light speed attack). It is a bit boring to explain this again and again. This ability is not exceptional at all. Gold saints master light speed displacement and attack, and we have other examples of gold attacking with "simple" light speed rays: Aiolia of course, Shaka in the anime, Deathmask at Rozan... Should we complete their articles? of course not, apart from saying they master light speed, which is not very surprising...
"Many consider Saga to be the most powerful of all Gold Saints."
Remark of little interest from my point of view. There are plenty of fora on which the question of the most powerful gold saint is debated and it does not lead very often to a precise conclusion. Many consider Saga to be the most powerful of all Gold Saints but it does not imply that he would be. At last, is this a wiki article or a fanboy web site? 
Harsiesis (talk) 10:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Techniques again and again

message: and his Gold Cloth represents it and its associated myth : the Dioskuroi, Castor and Polydeuces, twin sons of Leda and brothers of Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra.
May be so, may be not... from my point of view, the totem does not resemble much to dioscures. The Latin god Janus may be more an inspiration, or also the androgyn described by Plato in Symposium.
Harsiesis (talk) 10:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cloth, Constellation and Temple 

message: I just checked Saga's height in manga vol.13 : it is 188 cm and not 193. Who is the person who changed this? because in the history, I can see 188cm in old pages. 
Harsiesis (talk) 11:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmm... apparently, there are people who are not tired of salvage editing... Saga is 188cm heighted, period (manga t. 13). Or show us the proof... Harsiesis (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Datas