Talk:WebObjects

message: "The organization last held a Worldwide WebObjects Developer Conference, WOWODC, in 2013" makes it sound like there won't be another one!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.255.115 (talk) 13:40, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Yes it does. --gilgongo (talk) 20:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor wording 

message: The infobox says that WebObjects is free (gratis), but you can't obtain it without buying a product from Apple. That it's bundled with other commercial software doesn't make it free any more than Excel is free because it comes with Word when you buy Office, or Windows Media Player is free because it comes with Windows. I've changed it to "Proprietary", which seems to be the :Template:Infobox_Software standard for commercial software. — mendel ☎ 20:56, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true. It can be downloaded from the Apple developer site without any purchase necessary (you do have to register and sign a licence agreement though). Geira (talk) 19:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Good call -- it's proprietary. Ojw 23:25, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

text: My apologies -- I misunderstood XCode's provenance. I thought it was a component of, and distributed only with, OS X (because I saw that Apple called it an OS X "feature") and made the changes based on that understanding. — mendel ☎ 17:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks like the article still needs some tweaks as it indicates that WebObjects is an integral part of Mac OS X, and deployment does not have to be on a Mac.  What Grahamstewart says above is quite different - that the dev tools and framework is a part of the free-of-charge XCode, but a deployment license is part of Mac OS X Server ( not Mac OS X) .  My changes today merely eliminated the ambiguous word 'free' - but did not fully correct the situation, as I do not know how, in 2007, these licenses are issued.  --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 00:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  That's a strange kind of "free". 

message: It is unclear to me that the following statement has much merit:
However, it does allow developers to un-insert objects from contexts (a feature often missed in EOF).
The delete operation in EOF prior to saveChanges seems to provide the desired functionality.  Is there a citation for this issue? Kcarlin 22:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cayenne vs. EOF: "un-insert" 

message: Perhaps a nit -- WebObjects was not, as this entry claims, "..the world's first object-oriented Web application server."  Credit for that development goes to WebRex which was shipped originally in early 1995 - about a year before WebObjects.  I can't find the original press release online, though here is one announcing an update:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.next.announce/tree/browse_frm/month/1995-10/a0f82528d86525be?rnum=11&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.sys.next.announce%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F1995-10%3F#doc_ae2e9a4a33bce335
The company that developed WebRex is now defunct -- IT Solutions of Chicago, IL.  
I'd edit the entry myself but as I was the CEO of the company, I guess that would be a violation of Wikipedia's usage guidelines.... :-)
75.42.129.102 18:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WebObjects history claim 

message: The tools section starts off with a sentence "As of October 2008 most WebObjects architects and engineers are using the " I had to double check that my sleep depravation wasn't making me dellusional, this is still only April 2008 isn't it? October being about 6 months away or so?? Endastorey (talk) 19:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the "October". I would guess that the originator of the text meant "October 2007" or something like that, but since these "as of" comments are mainly used to indicate when the text was written and therefore the time at which something changeable was actually true, I have simply removed the "October" part since, as of 2008, it is true that WebObjects software is usually developed with open source tools, i.e. Eclipse and WOLips. This has been the recommended development platform since at least 2004, when Practical WebObjects () recommended it above all other options. 216.94.11.2 (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mystic meg predicts - whats with present tense assertions being made regarding October 2008 - the future! 

message: The commentary about iTunes being the "highest profile" WebObjects implementation to date is a bit POV. Dell Computer and BBC News are known around the world too and could be argued as equals in fame, etc., to iTunes.
216.94.11.2 (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Highest profile implementation to date" 

message: At the beginning the article states: "...or deploy on third-party Java EE application servers such as JBoss, Apache Tomcat...". AFAIK Apache Tomcat is not a J2EE Application server, but a servlet container (Geronimo "is" an app server...), so I'm not sure if the statement is correct, or if it's been redacted in a confuse way... --idleloop (talk) 21:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apache Tomcat a Java EE application server? 

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message: :"State Management: Without using cookies, WebObjects provides objects that allow you to maintain information for the life of a particular user session, or longer."
You can use cookies, session IDs in the URL (generally unsafe), or URL rewriting.
WebObjects is not magic. It works the same as other web technologies, except defaults to session IDs, which are crap. Regardless, that sentence does not make sense and sounds like a stretch, marketing-style. 
174.62.135.173 (talk) 08:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  State Management 

message: I've just done a general tidy-up. There appeared to be a history section pasted into the middle that was top and tailed by stuff out of chronological order, so I merged them. Also various amends for style (past tense, removing refs to how Apple "currently" does things, etc. Hoo ha. --gilgongo (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up