Talk:Franklin (TV series)

message: I think that this article is too short, considering its about double the old file size limit. I suggest that wet up into smaller articles...
: Since the character section is the largest part of the article, perhaps that could be split off? HalfShadow 04:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Erm...

message: Greetings, I have edited the guide for an interpretation of Franklin's universe, as well as a sketchy character guide.  I welcome dissenting and differing viewpoints, as well as requesting a link to a site that may hold such discussions?  If the truth shall come out of the mouth of babes, what of the truth that we create for them?  Let us consider this before we dismiss quickly the underlying themes within these programmes! -Citizen0000
* I've kept the previous poster's character guide in place, which looks like a great addition (pending some edits), but I am pasting the above (anonymous's) 'universe' contribution here for (careful) review. It is a lengthy discussion attempting to determine whether Franklin's universe is capitalist or communist using minutiae in the show. Given there is no way to contact this poster (no wikipedia account) and therefore no meaningful way to discuss with them in any case, I am pasting the contents below, as I don't believe it has a place on the article page, and I am "being bold" in removing it. I'm doing so on the grounds that that section reads like a personal essay and/or 'original research', neither of which is generally accepted on Wikipedia. (See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not). If a wikipedia user believes this should be in there, it's can be discussed here. Skybunny 23:31, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody tried to restore this to the page. I removed it. I agree that it is a personal essay and doesn't belong in the article. Agent0042 (talk) 05:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Communism and capitalism?

message: I don't mind the idea...as long as the characters in the book series are not substantially changed in the television show - which would mean that the character data is for the most part duplicated. I don't believe the 'fan ships' section is particularly encyclopaedic. It's simply saying what 'some fans like', and there's nothing specific or quantitative justifying the selections. I'd say merge in 'real' verifiable information about the individual characters that isn't simply conjecture, redirect the old article to this one, and call it a day. Skybunny 03:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The issue of merging [[Franklin the Turtle]]

message: Several sections in this article can use cleanup according to the Wikipedia manual of style, specifically, the section dealing with writing about fiction.
A highlight of that article which could be considered here:
Wikipedia policy on verifiability requires that articles "rely on credible, third-party sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." However, articles written from an in-universe perspective are overly reliant on the fiction itself as a primary source. Lacking as they are in any critical analysis of the subject, these articles may invite original research. In other words, lacking critical analysis from secondary sources, Wikipedia editors and fans of the subject often feel compelled to provide such analysis themselves.
While using some information from the show itself (using the show as its own source) is okay, drawing conclusions that the show never makes obvious is not. Examples:
# Squirrel - Another mysterious character who only appears twice in the series and with a weird disconnect between his two appearances. Squirrel is a bit younger than Franklin and his friends. In the first season, Squirrel appears in a play being put on by Franklin's class, but does not speak. In the third season, Squirrel shows up while Franklin, Raccoon and Fox are playing and wants to know if they'll play with him. Franklin becomes a sort of surrogate big-brother to him. In this story, Squirrel was voiced by Cole Caplan, who would later assume the role of Franklin beginning with the special "Back to School with Franklin." Squirrel reappears in the sixth season, sitting next to Badger at the very back of the school bus. What he's doing there is completely unknown --- he is not a part of Franklin's class and no further mention is made of his presence.
Nearly this entire paragraph is pure speculation: the assumption the squirrel in the play is the same as the squirrel Franklin is a big brother to (and even the one on the bus); and, discussion of "why he's on the school bus" in the sixth season. If the work of fiction is used as a primary source, only information made obvious can be used, and it should still not be "trivial" information. (Franklin's favorite color or hockey player - even the fact that that changes with the whim of a writer - does not say anything substantiative about his character). These sorts of conclusions need to be backed up with secondary sources, like interviews with writers of the program, or outside reviews of the series. Skybunny 18:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All right, I'm adopting this guide and I'll see what I can do about it... Agent0042 (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 'in-universe' issue 

message: It's a fact I noticed the most of the characters have younger siblings with human names, yet the older siblings are named according to their species. That'd be like if I had 2 kids and named one Human and the other Brittany...--I'm Kinda Awesome... 18:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, "Kit" is a play on the name of what beaver youngsters are called -- beaver kits. All the others, yeah. I'll look into it. Agent0042 (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird...should it be mentioned?

message: I have made some updates and corrections. I have also removed the "in-universe" tag from the "Sports and Games" section. If somebody still believes this item to be "in-universe," please explain why you are adding the tag, and what specifically can be done to correct this issue.
More updates coming. Agent0042 (talk) 22:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates

message: Both the international name of the turtle, Franklin, and his Canadian French name, Benjamin, are an allusion to the American inventor and scientist Benjamin Franklin.--Luke Elms 22:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allusions in Franklin's Name 

message: I wish there was a seventh season of Franklin with the 2 characters of Franklin and the Turtle Lake Treasure his Aunt Lucy and his Godcousin Sam moving in to Woodland. --MikeySalinas17 (talk) 17:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I do too, I also wish that they kept the original Franklin on air. It is such a great show. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 23:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: New Episodes

message: I have removed an unsessasary section in this article, and moved sections into proper places in this article, which needs a good clean up. NOTE: The "pets" section might have to be removed as it is written like a personal reflection or essay. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Section Removed

message: This page seems to have sections that could be merged together into one heading, to minimize confusion and unessesary sections. I took the "Woodland" and "Sports" headings and merged them with "Characters". The heading is now called "Characters and Neighbourhood". Just to organzize the page more. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 22:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Organization

message: Can someone find a source for airdates? Franklin is said to have started in 1997, not 1998.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.135.65.251 (talk) 18:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Airdate corrections