Talk:Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

message: Someone just added a famous CKCS as "pet of Ocean Park", which leads to a dab page with 2 locations, not people. Can anyone clarify who "Ocean Park" is or is supposed to be?  Elf | Talk 17:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The photos on the page are all particularly great, but we do seem to be a bit Blenheim-heavy. Can everyone be on the lookout for usable shots of Tris, Rubies or B&Ts? The Tom 20:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure those are public domain? The Tom 20:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pic request

message: Just removed this: "The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is the most demesticated breed of dog in the world, meaning it is the least wolf-like." added by anon User:144.134.163.151. I have no idea what this means (in what way more unwolflike than other breeds?) and no references cited. Elf | Talk 20:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A googled about and managed to pull up this study, which seems to be where the anon is drawing the conclusion. Interesting stuff, actually, and worth re-including in a revised form—it seems that the Cavalier was only the least wolflike of the ten breeds selected for the study. The Tom 21:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Least wolf-like?

message: I am surprised by the suggestion that Cavalier is derived from King Charles.  Cavalier simply means a horseman or horse-mounted soldier, with overtones of chivalry (same root - deriving from the Latin or cognate language word for "horse" - like "cheval" in French, and "chevalier" for knight or mounted fighting man or, going back to English, "cavalry" for horse-mounted troops).  The English Civil War which toppled King Charles I is often characterised as a battle of "Cavaliers" and "Roundheads" i.e. of royalists (who were rich enough to be mounted) and Parliamentarians (who had distinctive helmets).  No doubt that is why the combination "Cavalier King Charles" was chosen - it is all of a period piece.  But I don't think Cavalier means "Charles" or "Prince Charles" or "King Charles".  Anyone able to offer a source for this?  Chelseaboy 18:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't say that it is derived from the name Charles, does it? It's just that "Cavalier" was an epithet applied to King Charles. The "King Charles" bit fairly obviously does refer to King Charles... -- Ian Dalziel 18:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Would you have a source for any of that? -- Ian Dalziel 17:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Derivation of name Cavalier

message: It's my understanding that the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel was at one point mixed with the pug to produce the flatter faced CKCS.  I've even seen a TV special on the CKCS that goes into great detail about this.  Shouldn't it be mentioned in the article? Jmatthew3 18:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other way round, I think - the Cavalier was an attempt to return to the seventeenth century strain which had been crossed with Oriental toys to produce the King Charles Spaniel. (Which is covered in the History section) -- Ian Dalziel 20:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No reference to the Pug?

message: I reverted the black and tan photo: Blackandtansleeping.jpg to the pre-January 2008 black and tan photo: blackandtan.jpg because blackandtan.jpg has sharper contrast, superior photo quality, and displays the black and tan coloration. D-Looth (talk) 03:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Black and Tan Photo

message: Why doesn't someone add the photo of the cavaliers from the "dog" entry. There is an excellent photo there showing three cavaliers of varying colors  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.80.44.231 (talk) 19:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: I don't know much about it, but I learnt somewhere that some of the black versions of this dog can have something called rage syndrome. I don't know why it's only the black coloured dogs, or much about the actual syndrome, but from what I heard the dog can become completely hostile and violent for up to 10 minutes with no provoking or reason, then suddenly act as if it doesn't remember ever hurting anyone. It might be worth looking into.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.37.199 (talk) 09:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't any black versions of a Cavalier. The only black spaniels would be a Field Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel or a cross of both (or a spaniel cross). Miyagawa (talk) 19:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Rage Syndrome

message: Substituted at 11:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: There is a picture on this article that features a tricolor cavalier but then mentions the spot on the top of the skull. I need to find a source but the spot on the top of the skull is only true of the red and white variety. The tricolor standard is the white "blaze" that goes between the eyes. This is according to a reputable breeder that I have gotten my dog through. Owright1014 (talk) 22:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coloring variations 

message: King Charles II went so far as to issue a decree that the King Charles Spaniel could not be forbidden entrance to any public place, including the Houses of Parliament.
 
According to everything I know and have read, this seems to be true... but does anyone know or have the original text/formulation of this decree? It's nice to see for every CKCS-owner (personally I'm very curious)and I think, of course, it's good to supply a reference by this statement as well.
 
--The Beagle 20:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Decree: source?

message: The article refers to "slippers" and "feathers".  These should be linked to relevant articles and/or explained within this article, because they don't have the ordinary everyday meaning of slippers or feathers.
—DIV (1.129.110.25 (talk) 01:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slippers and feathers 

message: I propose that this article should refer to cross-breeds that are derived from the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.  An example of this is the beaglier.  
The reference could constitute any of the following:
* detailed exposition in a section of this article; 
* brief exposition in a section of this article, with a link to more detailed treatment in a separate article; 
* single link in the See also section to detailed exposition in a separate article; 
* multiple links in the See also section to separate articles for each notable cross-breed; or
* a new template at the foot of the article, in the style of Template:Toy_dogs, which might be be entitled Cross-breeds derived from the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, or Spaniel breeds, or similar.
—DIV (1.129.110.25 (talk) 01:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross-breeds 

message: This is a concern, as some people say they’re healthy, while others say that they aren’t. So which answer is right: 
Healthy, or not that healthy?
Nathan;dlsa (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are cavaliers a healthy breed?