Talk:Novalis

message: The article says: "Influences from the literature of that time can be seen. The metaphors of the hymns are closely connected to the books Novalis had read at about the time of his writing of the hymns. These are prominently Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet..". May I know which that metaphores are?Deafussy (talk) 23:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For anyone interested in the Novalis/Shakespeare connection (11 years after this comment), there's a link reference to JSTOR's copy of Rehder (1948) Wtfiv (talk) 18:03, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romeo and Juliet 

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message: Please leave in external link to Times article. It contains excellent information on Novalis.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dydimus (talk • contribs) 12:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, maybe you should upload it onto this talk page first, then we'll incorporate it?  Or is that what you meant? Dsol 12:22, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Should mention be made of the poet James Thomson (B.V.), author of The City of Dreadful Night?  The B.V. in his name stands for Bysshe Vanolis, the latter being an anagram of Novalis.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.196.140 (talk) 12:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence - James Thomson (B.V.)? 

message: Can anybody start a stub article on Magical idealism? Thanks. -- 201.51.221.66 15:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I merged it back into the article.  Not much there. —Viriditas | Talk 11:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Expanded Magical idealism section so that if forms a substantive section. Another problem with making Magical Idealism its own article is that the term was later co-opted by the Italian philosopher and fascist Julius Evola who used the term quite differently.  In my opinion, Novalis's idea of  magical idealism is better off staying within the article so the interested reader can focus on Novalis's sense of the term. Wtfiv (talk) 17:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Magical idealism]] - need stub 

message: I'm fairly new to Wikipedia but my native language is English and this article reads like a translation.  So I'd like to reshape the language, to let it read comfortably in English without changing any of the meaning.  Unfortunately, because the author/translator has not signed, I cannot ask you direct. Therefore I'm going to leave this note for a few days, and if nobody objects, I shall edit. Thanks Lucy Skywalker 22:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed edit into good English 

message: Some people ascribe a quote (not excact) to Novalis 'Your so-called religion is like opium: it transforms and deadens the pain, instead of giving the strength'. Can you clarify that, when and where he said/wrote that if he ever did?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.218.188.179 (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in a collection of fragments by Novalis called Pollen.KD Tries Again (talk) 02:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Mentioned the Marx/Novalis affinity regarding this metaphor/simile in "Influences" section and supported it with citation. Also added note that Novalis influenced Joseph Beuys's comment that "Everyone is an artist". The Beuys/Novalis connection is mentioned all over the net and even in Wikipedia, so I figured it should be on Novalis's own page too.Wtfiv (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novalis and opium of people 

message: "More recently, Novalis, as well as the Early Romantic (Frühromantik) movement as a whole, has been recognized as constituting a separate philosophical school, as opposed to simply a literary movement. Recognition of the distinctness of Fruhromantik philosophy is owed in large part, in the English speaking world at least, to the writer Frederick Beiser."
This lacks a reference. Perhaps it should be removed?
67.2.46.150 (talk) 04:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Integrated the idea of this quote in the discussion of Novalis's legacy. Beiser's impact on considering Novalis more seriously as a philosopher is not mentioned explicitly in the article's text at this point, but he is cited a number of times.  An interested reader could follow up by looking at Beiser's works.  Unfortunately, his major contributions to these ideas are academic press books that are not easy to access without a account with a university library. However, the current citations do link to those accessible Google Book pages that get as close to the stated point as possible. Maybe future editors can find even better, more complete accessible references. Wtfiv (talk) 17:20, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Romanticism 

message: Hello  I made some edits to the material you just added. It would be best if you could cite a source for the statement you make. Thanks. Eric talk 17:09, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello  Added references. I'm sorry, I'm a bit new to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaitheloner (talk • contribs) 06:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, thanks for adding the ref. I added the page number after looking up the Warnes book on Google Books, but that page does not seem to state what you put forth in the article, so you may want to see if there is a page to cite. Also, note that all nouns are capitalized in German. Eric talk 14:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Hi, I have the PDF with me. Can I share the relevant page through google drive? Apologies for the late reply. I don't log in much and browse Wikipedia logged off.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaitheloner (talk • contribs) 20:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franz Roh book reference 

message: Hello  and .  I'm reaching out to you two as you are the ones who have edited this page recently.  While trying to add a couple of references to the unreferenced material (much of which seems derived from Dydimus in 2008).  I saw that the references throughout the article are a bit messy.  I would like to clean them up a bit and make them more consistent, but feel that it is easiest to do so if I can change the formatting to a list-defined reference format.  This may help with housekeeping in the future, but if you feel that you'd like to keep the various styles it currently has, I won't change things.  Thanks for your consideration. (And please, if anybody else sees this note and has a strong opinion, please let me know. If I don't hear back within a week, I'll assume it's okay to do the migration.) Wtfiv (talk) 19:18, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi- Sounds like a good idea to me. Eric talk 02:24, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the reply, I just went ahead and moved the references. I tried to do a thorough first pass at cleaning them up, making them consistent and giving as many as possible accessible links.  Hopefully, it'll make this article easier to clean up someday. Wtfiv (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  List-defined References for this article? 

message: Though it wasn't my intention when I first moved the references to the reflist, I've now done a major edit on this article. My inspiration was due to the fact that when I wanted to learn about Novalis, the lead was bare, and the rest of the article had some interesting information but was very much disorganized, fragmented and unsourced. One goal was to unify and expand the article, keeping as many of the original editors' points as possible. 
I've attempted to support almost every point, including those made by previous editors, with references. Most references have an active link that gets as near the source material as possible so the information can be verified or used as a source in its own right. I tried to use free and open access materials and honor their accessibility by showing them with the green and orange open lock icons.  I also added a number of free access versions of Novalis's work in the "Writings" section.  Most of these are from the 1800s, but they are still good.  I didn't attempt to be comprehensive, but to give the interested reader a sampling of the variety of interpretations.  As a final note, I've also done a bit of aesthetic work by adding pictures and moving the old ones around a bit. Most of the images I added are supported by citations that link the works to Novalis.  Wtfiv (talk) 21:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Article Edit

message: Looking at similar articles I think this may meet Good Article criteria, so I nominated it.Wtfiv (talk) 18:46, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article Nomination

message: I'm considering moving the references from their "ref" format to an "sfn" format. Concerns? Wtfiv (talk) 18:29, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Change references over