Talk:Oblomov

message: Stoltz <-> Schtotlz -- somebody please decide o the right transcription.
: I changed everything to Schtoltz - This is the transliteration used in the English translation I'm looking at (the Russian is Штольц).  Fikus 05:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Penguin edition uses Stoltz. I don't think there's a definitive transcription, but I'm guessing that the Penguin edition is the most widely read. | Mr. Darcy talk 14:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a strong opinion, I just made a choice in the interest of being consistent.  I don't know anything about German names, I only took a guess based on the Russian.  Fikus 00:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case it should definitely be changed back to Stolz.  That's the only logical and correct spelling.  And the Penguin edition bears that out. Will do that soon unless there are serious objections. 131.111.8.99 00:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I changed the ending of the "The Novel" part because one important scene - the one where Oblomov finally fights his way out in life - was left out, and so its implications to the ending of the book.
I wish to remove the third paragraph which says "Oblomovka is a word that appears in the English translation of the novel. It seems to refer to an imaginary place in which people like Oblomov might live.", since Oblomovka is clearly the name of the Oblomov estate. "Seems to be" is rather vague too. 89.160.38.228 09:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Are these quotes really necessary? They appear to be longer than the plot descriptions themselves. If the second one is quite good for the plot description and analysis, the first one is hardly necessary. In my opinion, either they should be cut down or replaced by more concise ones expressing the same idea, or the plot section edited and expanded. Well, the latter should be done anyway. It uses very emphatic language, and misses out important parts of the plot — the section on Oblomov's life with Agaf'ya Matveevna is particularly confusing. I'll do it when I have time, but if someone gets here before that — please edit the plot summary.
--AVIosad 02:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: The article said the Superfluous Man was a "stereotype".  This is too negative; ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA observes that some of the most memorable characters in Russian literature (Eugene Onegin, Pierre in WAR AND PEACE, Uncle Vanya) are penetrating studies of "superfluous men".  Perhaps say "pervasive theme" or "archetype"?
A book on European literature (unfortunately I can't remember the name and can't cite it) suggests the OBLOMOV was really an attack on Russian serfdom, showing its demoralizing effects on a likeable character who never has to do his own work, as well as on a "well-treated" serf who never learns to fend for himself. To say that Oblomov was just "spoiled rotten" is too narrow.
CharlesTheBold 14:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Superfluous man, and Oblomov's real problem 

message: The text accompanying the picture indicates it's from the 1858 Russian version, but when I clicked the outside link, it says it's from "Russian version" but does not indicate it's from the 1858 original. The cover art does not look like it's from that time; rather, I would guess it's from about 1930 to 1970. I suggest the "1858" be removed from the book cover description.
(Kejo13 19:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover Art 

message: On the one hand, we say Oblomov is a nobleman.  On the other, we have:
:The novel focuses on a midlife crisis for the main character, an upper middle class son of a member of Russia's nineteenth century merchant class. 
So is he a nobleman, or a bourgeois?  These seem like they should be mutually exclusive. john k (talk) 14:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oblomov's class status 

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message: The cited sources seem reliable, but the article itself needs more citations to support its claims - for example, citations are needed for Son of Oblomov, and the introductory claim of Oblomov as the Superfluous Man.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexandriaVasques (talk • contribs) 12:44, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations/Sources 

message: Seeley, F. F.. (1976). Oblomov. The Slavonic and East European Review, 54(3), 335–354. Retrieved from http://www.jstor.org/stable/4207297
Borowec, C.. (1994). Time after Time: The Temporal Ideology of Oblomov. The Slavic and East European Journal, 38(4), 561–573. http://doi.org/10.2307/308414
Stilman, L.. (1948). Oblomovka Revisited. American Slavic and East European Review, 7(1), 45–77. http://doi.org/10.2307/2492118
HARJAN, G.. (1976). Dobroliubov's "What is Oblomovism?": An Interpretation. Canadian Slavonic Papers / Revue Canadienne Des Slavistes, 18(3), 284–292. Retrieved from http://www.jstor.org/stable/40866920
Blair, Elaine. "The Short Happy Life of Ilya Ilyich Oblomov." The New York Review of Books. NYREV, Inc., 09 Sept. 2010. Web. 07 Feb. 2016.
Peace, Richard. Oblomov: A Critical Examination of Goncharov's Novel. Birmingham: Dept. of Russian Language and Literature, U of Birmingham, 1991. Print.
Shteyngart, Gary. "Ten Days With Oblomov: A Journey in My Bed." The New York Times. The New York Times, 30 Sept. 2006. Web. 07 Feb. 2016.
Diment, Galya. Goncharov's Oblomov: A Critical Companion. Evanston, Ill: Northwestern University Press, 1998. Print.
Ehre, Milton. Oblomov and His Creator: The Life and Art of Ivan Goncharov. Princeton, N.J, 1973. Print.
Louria, Yvette and Seiden, Morton I., Canadian-American Slavic Studies, 3, 39-68 (1969), DOI:http://dx.doi.org/10.1163/221023969X00358  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexandriaVasques (talk • contribs) 02:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources to Consider