Category talk:People by nationality

message: Nationality
This seems to treat nationality as equivalent to country.  There are 
* nationalities without corresponding countries: 
** Puerto Rican, Hawaiian, various pre-colonial ethnicities of North American mainland 
** Kurdish, Assyrian
** Chechen (arguably), various Siberian ethnic groups, Tatar, Karelian, and probably others
** Tibetan, Uyghur, & probably other non-Han ethnic groups of China
** Sikhs (arguably not just a religion), Tamil, Ainu, Okinawan, Hmong, Shan
** Basque, Breton, Catalan, Galician, Scottish, Welsh, Roma, Lapp, perhaps Frisian
* and nationalities that substantially extend beyond the corresponding countries (to name a few, and leaving out those i could list simply because "New York has more than the capital city of the corresponding country")
** Irish
** Armenian
** most of the ex-Soviet historically Muslim republics (many have minorities in at least Afghanistan)
** several East-European nationalities 
** Russian (Baltic states, Georgia, Moldova, & at least Kazakhstan come to mind)
** Korean (two Koreas & North America)
** Cuban, Mexican (US)
** Asian-derived nationalities with widespread diasporas:
*** Chinese (besides Taiwan) 
*** Indian 
*** East Indian
** Mongolians
** Jews (not just a religion, and arguably Jews and/or non-Israeli Jews are a nationality)
--Jerzy(t) 04:57, 2004 Sep 15 (UTC)
This is a complete misnomer if you are suggesting that you can be Irish and not born in Ireland.  In this instance a person would be of Irish descent, but their nationality is determined by their place of birth.  However, you can be Irish and move to another country.  Your nationality/status would change, but you would, of course, be from Ireland.  Your future children, if any, would not be Irish.  This trend of assuming nationality based on descent seems more prevalant in America than anywhere else.
--Gerald Davies 11:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there some categorization project with policy to categorize people by nativity? The articles on nation and nationality make clear that there are multiple meanings. (Even nativity isn't decisive.) --P64 18:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Can anyone help me understand this?
Two lists:
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_by_nationality
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_by_nationality
are not the same, eg: the first has Zimbabwean people but not Zambian people; the second has Zambians but not Zimbabweans.
Both lists are partial -- presumably the lists are not generated automatically by the database?
--Mount Pleasant 16:58, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "People by nationality" vs "List of people by nationality" 

message: Someone forgot to add the "category:Inuit people" in the "category:People". --Eleassar777 22:22, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Inuit

message: In a currently open CfD discussion, the following statement was made by ChemTerm:
A similar issue was stated by John Pack Lambert in a CfD a couple months ago:
The question is, should we go and rename all these categories accordingly (People from Foo)? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:FOOian people 

message: :The following OP has been multiply posted and my suggestion is that :Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) might act as a centralised location for related discussion.
Use of the pluralisation of a demonym where this is possible
A recent successful RM was made for the following:
* :Azerbaijani people → 
* :Bahamian people → 
* :Bangladeshi people → 
* :Barbadian people → 
* :Bolivian people → 
* :Chilean people → 
* :Colombian people → 
– And many similar articles which, on the same president, I would like moved - as would apply to all demonym based population describing articles in those cases those cases in which the plural form of the demonym differs from the singular form of the word.  
(explanation was given)
As per: Albanians, Americans, Armenians, Australians, Austrians, List of Bahranis, Belarusians, Bosnians, Brazilians, Bulgarians, Lists of Cameroonians and Canadians, ... 
As per WP:UCRN as demonstrated in searches ...
Designations that seemingly should remain as "... people" as the demonym retains the same form when indicating either singulars or plurals: Bhutanese people, British people and Chinese people, 
:Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)
On this basis I would suggest that any editor with authority to directly make sensible changes to article and category contents could go ahead and make sensible moves (as relevant to article content naturally).  
I would say that this issue also relates to content in which two ethnicities are mentioned such that relating to Afghan American(s) and perhaps this will also need to be sorted out at :Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes).  
I propose that the table on that project page might read as something like the following:
Pattern                                                          	Examples
Use pluralisation of a demonymwhen this is practical             	Koreans · Germans · Swedes
Use ".. people" when pluralisationof the demonym is not practical	French people · Wauja people
Singular demonyms                                                	Iyer
Groups where twoethnicities are referenced                       	Afghan AmericansAfghans in the United Kingdom
Parenthetical disambiguation                                     	Macedonians (ethnic group)
Peoples for which two nationalities/ethnicities/descents are referenced
In the case of people who are described by use of two national/ethnic descriptions I was interested to see the navigational content at: British Korean which reads as follow:
British Korean or Korean British may refer to:
*Koreans in the United Kingdom
*British people in North Korea
*British people in South Korea
*North Korea-United Kingdom relations
*South Korea-United Kingdom relations
*Eurasian (mixed ancestry) people of Korean and British descent
Mention of this content is also made at: Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board#What to do with articles for Britains with other nationalities, ethnicities and/or descents and, as potentially an example of good practice, I thought I would also present this content "here".  
:Again, this OP has been multiply posted and my suggestion is that :Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) might act as a centralised location for related discussion.  This is by no means meant as a discouragement of location specific discussion.
GregKaye 11:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presentations and pluralisations of peoples 

message: What basis is there that we can only include people on a nationality list ie . :Category:American people only if they are citizens of that country? This is a note that appears on every such country category that exists.--Prisencolin (talk) 19:09, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship requirements 

message: "People of" has been standard in category names for former countries with compound names, but this is now deprecated following Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_4#Category:People_of_the_Russian_Empire, and "People from" will replace "People of". – Fayenatic London 07:54, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "from" replacing "of"