Talk:Economy of Israel

message: The text of this article is clearly taken from a 1997-8 source and so its references to current situations and trends is not relevant. It needs a good clean-up.
:"Two developments have helped to transform Israel's economy since the beginning of the decade."
:"Until the last decade, Israel's trade with the Arab world..."
:Which decades are these?24.64.166.191 05:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article text very dated

message: "Israel's strong commitment to economic development and its talented work force led to economic growth rates during the nation's first two decades that frequently exceeded 10% annually."
 
My comment: how can we say "talented work force"? Compared to who? References? I get associations to "Ubermench" here. Ugh. I suggest we delete "and its talented work force". 
Also: Should there not, in all fairness (when mentioning the high growth rate in this period), be a reference to the compensations payed to Israel from Germany in this period?  Huldra 19:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but this has to do with the population being EDUCATED, not "talented". "Talented workforce" is a nonsensical term that reeks of fascism. IDiO (talk) 01:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with IDIO on this.  As an engineer, I do not consider my engineering a "talent."  "Educated" is a much more accurate term for the Israeli workforce.  Also, how much of the growth rate in the first 2 decades was due to population growth, and how much to per capita economic growth?  Regards.  Plazak (talk) 11:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: POV statement

message: The GDP table (even if sourced) is blatantly wrong. A GDP of 1 million NIS in 1965 would imply that each person generated about 40 agorot per year (I know the currency has changed since then, but the broad point remains). I'll look for a more credible alternative... Pontificake 18:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GDP

message: 1. Has anybody a link to the German annual payments. As far as I know there are compensation payments, but not to the State of Israel nor in the amount stated in the lead-in.
2. The GDP comparison with European countries is misleading. The only countries that have a lower GDP per capita in "Western Europe" are Greece and Portugal. Spain has a higher GDP per capita. Themanwithoutapast 19:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead-in - GDP and 500 million by Germany

message: Article previously stated that Israel receved 7.4 bil$ from US. This give an impression that US gave the money, wile this in reality is a trade surplus. To whoever added this in the first place: please be carefull to understand the sources before adding them to WP. -- Heptor  talk 02:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinterpretation of the Balance of Payments 

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message: 2006 the volume was 4,9 Mrd. US$. Being 8,26 % (3,2 Mrd. US$) of Israels Imports and 5,58 % (1,7 Mrd. US$) of Israels Exports. 
Might be good to mention not only the US ex and import but the first two or three partners.--Stone (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External Trade

message: The third paragraph sounds a bit over the top. 217.132.28.149 (talk) 22:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self congratulatory text 

message: Will EU Penalize Exports from Israeli Settlements? is article about the problematic practice that stuff produced in the israel seatlements is exported to the EU, but the tax free agrement is only valide for israel, but not for palestina, the occupied terretories, Gazza or the Westbank or what the ares are called.--Stone (talk) 18:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: EU israel tax problems

message: What is the unemployment rate in israel?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.11.113.192 (talk) 04:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 5.8% (April 2011) Hmbr (talk) 22:45, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unemployment rate? 

message: Apart from needing a copy-edit, it does in many places read like an advertisement or brochure. There needs to be more neutral, even critical, info on the economy; I can think of one problem it faces already, and I'm not even an expert.
The "Income" table is weird: compares loads of apples and oranges: different criteria in the same columns, different years, clutter of local currencies. I think it needs to go completely and be replaced by a short para. Tony (talk) 02:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: More, on revisiting ... the Income section is a shocker. Out of date, messy, inconsistent categories (why US states? NZ is surely overstated, etc.) Ungrammatical language. Needs expansion. I think the table needs to go completely or be rethought. Anyone willing to help? Tony (talk) 03:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues 

message: I have noticed that there are non-metric units creeping into the text (such as the information on natural gas reserves). As Israel exclusively uses the metric system, this article needs to be cleaned up to ensure that only metric units are used.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.113.241 (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the harm of including some other units of measurement in parentheses? TheKuygeriancontribsuserpage 21:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metric units 

message: The 2004 the U.S. Congressional Research Service report has historical significance is no longer relevant and thus should not be in the very first paragraph of the article. Moving to history section. Below are three important points as to why the 8-year old report is no longer relevant.
US Aid to Israel: Makeup and constituent share of current economy
The US no longer provides Israel with economic aid. In 2012, the US will provide Israel with approximately $3 billion worth of military aid and about $0.6 billion in support of joint weapon development activities. Note that most of this aid cannot be spent in the Israeli economy, rather in the US to purchase US-made products. Also, Israel has not taken out any loans using loan guarantees provided by the US since at least the middle of the last decade.
In 2012, Israel is expected to have a GDP of approximately $250 billion. $3.6 billion would be about 1.5% of gross domestic product. Nowadays, one cannot reasonably argue that aid making up only 1.5% of GDP makes the Israeli economy wholly reliant on US aid as the report suggest.
The relative performance the Israeli economy compared to the economic performance of other high-income, western developed countries since the report was written.
Since the report came out, the world has experienced a devastating financial crisis. This crisis has shown which countries have solid economic fundamentals and which have economies resting on shaky economic legs. Or as they say, when the tide goes out, you can see which swimmers have been swimming naked and which had swimsuits underneath. In almost every conceivable economic parameter the Israeli economy has far outperformed those of other countries during the crisis. Certainly if the Israeli economy was as fragile and "unsustainable" as the report claims, the outcome for the Israeli economy would have been completely different and it wasn't.
Current budget deficit
The report also claims that the Israeli economy relies heavily on borrowing to survive. Israel's budget deficit in recent years has been under 3% of GDP, thus requiring very low borrowing, and well below that of other western countries. Again, the report is detached from current reality.
Given these reasons, it makes more sense to reference the report in an historical context rather than in a section which implies the report has current relevancy to the Israeli economy. I made this change.
Wikiliki (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Talk with the people in Talk:Economy_of_Israel#US_aid_to_Israel. TheKuygeriancontribsuserpage 21:41, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  2004 Congressional Research Service report 

message: Hello everyone, I am working for the International Trade Centre (ITC), a UN/WTO agency that aims to promote sustainable economic development through trade promotion. I would like to propose the addition of an external link (http://www.macmap.org/QuickSearch/FindTariff/FindTariff.aspx?subsite=open_access&country=SCC376%7cIsrael&source=1|ITC) that leads directly to our online database of customs tariffs applied by Israel. Visitors can easily look up market access information for Israel by selecting the product and partner of their interest. I would like you to consider this link under the WP:ELYES #3 prescriptions. Moreover, the reliability and the pertinence of this link can be supported by the following facts 
1) ITC is part of the United Nations, and aims to share trade and market access data on by country and product as a global public good
2) No registration is required to access this information
3) Market access data (Tariffs and non-tariff measures) are regularly updated
Thank you,
Divoc (talk) 09:50, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: External link to tariff data

message: This article contains nothing whatsoever about the sector of the economy - the service industries - which are actually most important in the everyday lives of Israelis. Nothing is mentioned about the supermarkets popular shopping chains or everyday purchasing habits of Israelis. Instead the information, taken largely from official reports, is precisely of the kind which can be looked up anywhere and has very little relevance to everyday life in the country. Can someone who knows more about the subject please do something to help remedy this.
Many Thanks,
Chris
Noticed that some language and grammer is a bit off.  Might need to be fixed. mostly in the history area. sorry too busy to fix myself  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.240.52.25 (talk) 04:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of information on everyday life 

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message: Israel has had the largest number of spies in America of any other foreign country, including the USSR. Much of these were military secrets, including their atom bomb project, their aerospace and military industries. Often this tech is then sold or derived, Israeli made products old to rogue states--e.g., Pakistan and China, particularly China's front-line J9 figher, which was based on the Israeli Lavi, itself built with U.S. aid, both overt and covertly stolen.
Additionally, the spy-network as integrated federal agencies, as synergy with AIPAC, ADL and other Israeli/Zionist organizations.
Of course, the new, post-people powered wiki will likely delete this. Given the backgrounds of the CEO and moderators, it's not surprising this is the only locked country page, at least I am aware of.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.205.198 (talk) 04:12, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
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message: I've published a new page on Israeli conomy - Israeli cybersecurity industry, maybe it will be good to use some parts in this article. JorienBye (talk) 13:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section? 

message: Request to add Corruption in Israel under the section Economy of Israel#See also. 223.25.74.34 (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: Per WP:SEEALSO, links in the section should be limited in number and the list is already longer than most such sections. If consensus is in favor of the addition, then I personally have no objection. DrKay (talk) 15:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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replies: text: Many of the sources for the claims about tech leadership are quite old. Such as 2002-2012. Poor citations 2601:5CF:8000:6B60:4B7:D1E9:5E52:111A (talk) 00:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many articles saying economy is shrinking but article says it's growing?  

message: under history, the very first sentence is an uncited claim:
"The British Mandate for Palestine that came into effect in 1920 aimed at restricting land purchases by Jewish immigrants."
A  tag absolutely should be added. The Balfour Declaration, not to mention zionism itself, directly refutes this. 2601:5CF:8000:6B60:4B7:D1E9:5E52:111A (talk) 00:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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