Talk:Central Coast Mariners FC

message: I think that the history section could do with some organisation. I suggest it might be a good idea to place the period up to early 2010 under a heading along the lines of "Lawrie McKinna Era". Any opinions on that? I'll also try to update some of the history.Mcpaulrus (talk) 11:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections within "History"

message: I have been trying to keep the figures for Lawrie Mckinna up to date but I think that they might be very incorrect! What can we do to correct it? I would personally go back and count it all up but I don't get on much. Any suggestions would be helpful! Cheers Drizzt Jamo 22:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: does the mariners' site have the info? Dibo T | C 00:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good Idea! I will check! Cheers Dibo! Drizzt Jamo 22:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, It's not there. Any other ideas? Drizzt Jamo 22:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Manager details and figures

message: I added a summary of the final at the end of the breif bit at the start of the article. It needs to be cut down to make it a bit more short. Any help doing so would be helpful! Cheers Drizzt Jamo 01:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Summary

message: As anyone watching the page has probably figured by now, Michael McGlinchey is a Scottish footballer. He may not be considered Scottish, but a New Zealander, however, per the guideline on the use of flags for sportspeople, the flag displayed next to his name in football articles must be a Scottish one, as he has played matches for the Scottish national U-20 team. If anyone feels that he most definitely is a New Zealand footballer, I strongly encourage you to speak up here. Thanks, timsdad  (talk) 09:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael McGlinchey 

message: The chairman position is inconsistent in the article. In the right hand summary it's still listed as Ian Keirnan, yet we all know (as validated by Mariners site) it is Peter Turnbull, as it is listed in the article proper. (davidab (talk) 00:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chairman 

message: This group is defunct now right? Replaced by one named "The Coastie Boys" as far as I know? Anyone got any sources?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.139.217 (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe something like that is the case. There are a few sources that say they exist but I haven't seen anything considered reliable that say they replaced the Marinators or that the Marinators are defunct. Camw (talk) 19:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marinators 

message: He was added to the squad a while ago, but there's no profile of him on the CCM website, and i can't find any source claiming he's signed for them. What's the deal with this guy? not even his page has any source saying he's signed for the club.  Nath1991 (talk) 07:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrick Zwaanswijk 

message: This article has been nominated to appear as WP:Today's Featured Article but it is far below current standards.  Per the first stage of the Featured article review process, I am posting a list of concerns here.  If these are not addressed, the article may lose its featured status.  In no particular order:
*Deadlinks marked since January 2013
*Unsourced statements marked since January 2013
*Seasons are referred to using slashes, hyphens and dashes, and sometimes using six digits and sometimes eight (e.g. 2008/2009, 2010–11, 2012-2013)
*"The Mariners are currently competing in the last 16 phase of the Asian Champions League." No they are not.
*"The Mariners Centre of Excellence is currently being constructed in Tuggerah and will then become the clubs headquarters." This is only in the lead, not the rest of the article, shouldn't use "currently" and needs grammar fixing.
*"Lawrie McKinna era" - the last five paragraphs of this sub-section have one reference between them, and peacock/POV phrases such as "the many fine Youth Academy players", "following a remarkable final round", "match ended in controversy", "this was controversially referred to as a strike", "The 2008–09 season was disappointing compared to the standards set in the previous season"
*"Graham Arnold era" - problems include "On the 21st of April 2013" (wrong type of date format) and "remarkable debut season" 
*"Colours and badge" - choppy prose, grammatical errors, unsourced statements.
*"Stadium" - "As of December 2007" shows this FA's age.
*"Rivalries" - shouldn't be just an unexplained list; ditto for "affiliated clubs"
*"Club officials" - unsourced
*"Managers" - needs updating
*"Individual honours" - "most prestigious award" POV, all awards uncited
I haven't looked at the sourcing.  Other people may find other problems. BencherliteTalk 11:39, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article concerns - FAR issues 

message: In this and several other articles Macktheknifeau has unilaterally changed the word "Socceroos" to "Australia national association football team". (Sometimes with the word "player" tacked on for sanity, but hardly for clarity and simplicity.) I see these changes as pointy, confrontational, and not in line with the agreed naming of Soccer in Australia There is a centralised discussion on this matter underway at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)#Macktheknifeau doing sweeping, pointy changes again. HiLo48 (talk) 22:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes from "Socceroos" to "Australia national association football team" 

message: Rather than edit warring here, I have begun a thread at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)#Full names of soccer clubs to discuss how we should use the "fullname" parameter in the Infobox template. Unfortunately it seems to be being used by some to continue to now sneakily press the claim that their game is called football. HiLo48 (talk) 08:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "fullname" parameter in the Infobox. 

message: My English teachers would have failed me if I had written things like "The club were founded in 2004..." It had to be "The club was founded in 2004..." because a club is a single entity. I know language standards change, but we are not totally conistsent. The second paragraph begins with "The club plays matches at...", not "The club play matches at...", so it's being treated as a single entity there.
If we want featured article status, we must at least get the grammar consistent. Obviously I would prefer what I was taught to be the standard (it's far more logical), but might be willing to accept an alternative consensus. What's there now is ugly. HiLo48 (talk) 00:33, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou for the thorough response.--2nyte (talk) 01:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Unfortunately, there's a lot more places where the club is treated as a plural entity, e.g. the very first sentence. Maybe I'll go ahead and change them all. I don't think it's controversial. HiLo48 (talk) 02:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that one too. Feel free to go through and correct it.--2nyte (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I switched everything that I could to plural because I've seen this be an issue in several soccer team FACs before. This is one of many examples where this has proved to be a key issue, and I thought going for plural usage throughout would prove to be the least painful approach. Otherwise, you'll run into situations where the grammar becomes ugly due to the usage of the Mariners nickname as a shorthand. If you still want everything singular, though, let me know and I'll be happy to go through the article and change everything. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, the changes should be done now. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

text: I noticed in the lede sentence it says "in the Central Coast of"...I've never heard of that before. I've only ever heard "on the Central Coast" used. Was this a typo or is there a grammatical rule that everyone seemingly disregards for that? Daniel (talk) 03:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fixed now. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Ta. Daniel (talk) 01:36, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the club  a plural or singular entity? 

message: The A-League uses the term Premiership differently to all other sports, having it mean 'top of the table' rather than overall champions. Without any explanation this term is confusing. Howabout "Central Coast Mariners has topped the table and won the A-League Premiership twice and claimed one A-League Championship from four Grand Final appearances."Mdw0 (talk) 01:06, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That wording makes it seem as if topping the table and winning the A-League premiership are two separate achievements (which they are not). I suggest an easy fix would be linking "premiership" to Minor premiership, as I have done in Western Sydney Wanderers FC.--2nyte (talk) 03:13, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it needs more than just a hyperlink. How about "Central Coast Mariners have claimed one A-League Championship from four Grand Final appearances, and has topped the table to win the A-League Premiership twice."Mdw0 (talk) 03:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw these comments and can see why that might be confusing. I edited the sentence to be similar to Mdw0's proposal (with a couple tweaks), and added a minor premiership link. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:13, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Premiership

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