Talk:LimeWire

message: The reference template has been at the top of the page for some time.  Are there enough references now?  There is no indication who put this here.  The addition of the citation was here.  There were nine references and there are now 16.  Also, there are a few individual citation needed tags.  I really wish people who put these templates in were compeled to leave text on their reasoning. Bpringlemeir (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: go to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:LimeWire&action=edit§ion=1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.243.60.8 (talk) 13:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Refimprove|date=September 2008 template has been removed.  There are many references and the original editor of the template has not responded in approx. 5 months.  A specific citation needed would be more appropriate and/or a comment on this talk page. Bpringlemeir (talk) 13:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: http://torrentfreak.com/limewire-loses-court-battle-with-riaa-shuts-down-101026/ - .:. Jigsy .:. (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See Windows 95. OS is discontinued, yet the article uses the present tense in the article because the program still exists. The same logic applies to Limewire; you can still download it to this day, regardless of the fact that it has been "shut down" by the courts. WireShare, also known as the "pirate edition" continues to live as a spin-off as well. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 18:22, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shut Down 

message: Lime Wire has been permanently shut down.  Jisjames007 (talk) 23:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: See Limewire#Injunction. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 23:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Jisjames007, 27 October 2010 

message: Reference: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371462,00.asp
Versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 can still connect to the Gnutella network and users of these versions are still able to download files, even though a message is displayed concerning the injunction during the startup process of the software. LimeWire versions 5.5.10 and newer feature a "toxic" backdoor included by LimeWire Inc. that allowed LimeWire Inc. to disable the newer versions of the LimeWire software. Older versions of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10 however do not include this "toxic" backdoor and are still fully functional.
Due to the original architecture of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10, the RIAA nor LimeWire Inc. have the ability to disable older versions of LimeWire, unless a LimeWire user chooses to upgrade to a version of LimeWire that is 5.5.10 or newer.
:Hence why my Limewire still functions. Eh, I'm still changing to Frostwire. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 23:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Added to article. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 23:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Your connection problem is unrelated to the remote controls. Go to the FrostWire forums for instructions on getting and installing a fresh gnutella.net host cache to solve that problem. Aaron Walkhouse (talk) 03:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Yeah, right. I just installed LimeWire PRO 4.12.3 on my computer and it won't even start. So how about the older versions working properly. Could it be that I am using Windows 7? 82.141.72.152 (talk) 13:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older versions of LimeWire still fully functional 

message: The above already appears at the top of the article: On October 26, 2010, Judge Kimba Wood, a US federal court judge, issued an injunction forcing LimeWire to prevent "the searching, downloading, uploading, file trading and/or file distribution functionality, and/or all functionality" of its software.[3][4] A trial investigating the damages necessary to compensate the affected record labels is scheduled to begin in January 2011.[5]
I believe the following is also very relevant to point out at the very beginning of the article rather than in the middle of the article, either before the above paragraph or just after the above paragraph:
As of October 26, 2010, versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and newer have been disabled by LimeWire Inc using a backdoor installed by the company into newer versions of the software. However, all versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 are still fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions.
References: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371670,00.asp and http://www.gnutellaforums.com/windows/97241-lw-still-works-fine-version-5-5-10-but-do-not-attempt-use-later-version.html
: Done Thanks. I tweaked your sentence a little and switched your forum source (as they are not WP:RS) with another PC Mag source. I also made a few changes to the article itself. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 01:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add to introduction 

message: Versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and later are no longer "stable releases" since these versions have now been disabled by a backdoor built into the newer versions of the software and newer versions no longer work. Therefore, since these versions are no longer working and as such are not "stable releases", shouldn't the article be changed to reflect V5.5.8 as the latest "stable release"?
Please note that the "stable release" version should be changed both at the top of the article where the "stable release" version is listed, AND also under the "versions" section of the article. In the "versions" section, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.16." should be changed to, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.8 and any versions of LimeWire past V5.5.8 have been disabled by LimeWire Inc and are no longer working."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PWilson3210 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: We are not the ones to decide whether a software version is stable or not, regardless of its status. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 02:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change "stable release" version to V5.5.8, newer versions no longer working/stable 

message: On the wiki it says version 5.5.10 and newer cannot download, however I have version 5.5.6 and i cannot download.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.66.111 (talk) 08:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Try an earlier version (my 4.9 worked fine). We're just relaying what sources say. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 15:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

text: My version 5.5.8 has not been able to connect for the last couple of days. Has it been disabled? SmokeyTheCat 07:16, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unsure (I've moved on to Frostwire). If a reliable source says so, then it may be. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 04:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I stated above, LimeWire PRO 4.12.3 won't even start on Windows 7. 82.141.72.152 (talk) 13:58, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limewire version 

message: It made the news, its official, theyre gone  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.95.173 (talk) 22:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "LimeWire 5.5.11 and newer have been disabled" =/= "LimeWire has been disabled". EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 00:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey everyone, whoever has access needs to write that limewire got shut down. 

message: As Beancrisps posts are reverted without notice (I mean without useful comment on the reason), I thought I might post it here (under a new topic) for further discussion. :)
*I challenge anyone to name one law that Limewire broke. Beancrisp (talk) 23:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: mfg, OldDeath -  12:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia articles are limited to reporting material from reliable published sources. I am not a legal expert, and even if I were, it would still be up to the courts to make rulings on the legality of Limewire.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:39, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

text: The situation currently facing LimeWire is very similar to the one faced by Mininova in 2009 and AllOfMP3 in 2008. Unlike Louis L. Stanton's ruling in Viacom International Inc. v. YouTube, Inc., Judge Kimba Wood decided that LimeWire had a model based on copyright infringement. Since it is not the job of Wikipedia to decide what is legal, the article can only report on what the sources say.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beancrisps posts 

message: According to Slashdot.org, the Limewire development team has released an updated Limewire client to the open source community.  It is based on the 5.6 Beta.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/11/09/042242/LimeWire-Lives-Again
14:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/horde-of-piratical-monkeys-resurrects-limewire-pirate-edition.ars 110.175.254.120 (talk) 03:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Created Limewire pirate edition --DrDan21 (talk) 02:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: RIAA wants revived LimeWire dead and buried This is on CNET today.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:26, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This makes the pirate edition very notable for inclusion. If we get more information, I'll probably write a short section. EricLeb01 (Page | Talk) 03:01, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limewire Pirate Edition is released 

message: The article LimeWire Pirate Edition is too short, so its better if you merge it here.
TheChampionMan1234  (talk) 02:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Limewire Pirate Edition|LimeWire Pirate Edition]] into this article 

message: I would like to edit this page: There are current laws that have resulted, although may not be directly but indirectly related to the issues concerning LimeWire. I want to add information about the new law that internet providers now partake in, called the “Six strikes Law”. I propose this law as an important issue in relation to this page because it is one of the results of having illegal downloading sites. This law then also concerns matters of individual privacy as everything is being monitored and therefore, it creates restriction on the use of internet which is obviously not appreciated by everyone in this generation where the supply of “free” anything and everything is welcomed. Thus, I would like to include the criticism that this new law is probably facing and how the public and the internet providers are dealing with them. Also, I found a term, AVG, used but as a reader I had to look up what it was because it was not directly defined. I think Wikipedia pages are made to break down the simplest of things and therefore, as a reader who is new to this technical diction, I believe it is necessary to explain the simplest of abbreviations. I want to edit this page and answer the question, “What is AVG?” Overall, I will edit the subsection “Version History” to define “What is AVG?” and then I will create a new subsection about the “Six strikes Law” and the criticism that follows the new law.Pringles012 (talk) 05:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The "six strikes" law would have WP:TOPIC issues in this article, which is primarily about LimeWire as a piece of software. There is a separate article Copyright Alert System which looks at this scheme.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:27, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This article is about LimeWire, not the Copyright Alert System. Information about that system belongs in it's own article, not this one. --Geniac (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: March 2013

message: In 2010, Judge Kimba Wood effectively ended the glory days of LimeWire. This does not mean that the software no longer exists. There are still old versions of LimeWire which are functional, and LimeWire Pirate Edition. This is why changing "is" to "was" is inaccurate.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:37, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyway, even though you can download it from the links you mentioned, it's still non-functional and instead of showing "connected" status, it says that LimeWire was unable to connect, and the pirated edition stays on "connecting" status forever and eventually it doesn't connect. So I think changing "is" to "was" still makes sense. Megahmad (talk) 23:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Put simply, LimeWire became defunct after the court ruling in October 2010, and attempts to revive it have not been successful. WireShare redirects to LimeWire Pirate Edition. LWPE was renamed to WireShare for legal reasons; the program has not been updated since October 2012..--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  The SF page states it as a fork. There is no reliable third-party reference that LPE was renamed and nothing linking LPE's creator/dev team with WireShare. Not a single referenced news article here mentions WireShare, it all LPE. Anyone can download the source and replace a couple strings.  -- ZinnKid (talk | contribs) 14:15, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The open source nature of Gnutella means that any piece of software based on it is copyright free. It is unclear what relationship LimeWire Pirate Edition has with WireShare, but it is clear that neither of them has had any great success.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:08, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Is" or "was" again 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on LimeWire. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20150823123232/http://b.imagehost.org/0927/lime_wire_start.png to http://b.imagehost.org/0927/lime_wire_start.png
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111116173345/http://wiki.limewire.org:80/index.php?title=Changelog to http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Changelog
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110812152113/http://blog.limewire.org/?p=361 to http://blog.limewire.org/?p=361
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Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 02:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Since the reader may not be an expert on all of this, the key question is whether the 2022 reboot/comeback is in any way endorsed by the original developers of the software. Or is it just different people who are using the name LimeWire? Can someone clarify this?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reboot/comeback 

message: Its an illegal piracy-related tool. 5G increases this tools's piracy-ability.
All other P2P-tools are either also illegal piracy-encouragers or are simply insecure for any further use.
Microsoft and other Messenger-offerers should be advised NOT to use P2P anymore for this due to its general insecurities.
Else, they are perfectly legal to use. But due to its P2P-protocol-use, they are hopelessly insecure!
Please do no longer advise for downloads also due to German IT Security law civil disobedience by this protocol in question.
NOT SAFE TO USE TECHNOLOGY.
--2001:16B8:5756:8C00:2C78:35C3:4DF9:E900 (talk) 12:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is in WP:NOTAFORUM territory but also Wikipedia is not censored. Wikipedia does mention things if they are discussed in reliable sources. I agree that any form of P2P file sharing software should be approached with caution as it can cause your IP address to leak, and it shares content on your computer with other people, but it is beyond the scope of the article to give warnings or disclaimers. Also, Wikipedia is read in countries other than Germany, where the copyright laws are very strict. See also WP:IANAL.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:59, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  LiveWire-Piracy? Also, general filesharing-piracy associated illegal download tool as it simultaneously shares the downloads with others!