Talk:Murder of Suzanne Marie Collins

message: Is this person of sufficient fame to warrant a wikipedia article?  Should there be a wikipedia article on every murder victim in the U.S., regardless of how heinous the crime is?
Only US murder victims?  How NPOV.67.164.212.239 05:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think that we need more on who she was and less on what happened to her.--Daysleeper47 20:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, "what happened to her" is exactly what makes her notable enough for Wikipedia.128.172.18.165 (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, the title of this article should actually be "Murder of Suzanne Marie Collins".--Shakehandsman (talk) 03:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Less on the murder, more on the girl 

message: LCpl Collins didn't really know me, but everyone on the base knew her. Until I read "Journey Into Darkness" I assumed she got promoted and got onto Honor Deck simply because she was pretty. I didn't realize what she had to go through to get to that point. I remembered her because about a week before she was murdered she sat down at my table in the chow hall. We spoke briefly, and shortly thereafter she was murdered. It was strange knowing that one day she was alive and well, and the next day we heard that she had been murdered. About a year ago I was in a plane crash and nearly lost my life. I was out of work for a month. As I laid in bed being thankful to still be alive, my mind wandered to other people I knew who had passed away before their time. I wondered what had happened to Suzanne's murderer, and I did a little internet research. I then created this page and the one on Sedley Alley. Strangely, I had settled in North Carolina, and until a few years ago I lived a couple of miles from Suzanne's parents house. 
Suzanne clearly touched many people's lives, and she is still doing so.
Martylunsford 20:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I was there, too

message: I'm new to the site and am not sure on how all this works, so I apologize in advance if I post something incorrectly. 
I have just received an interesting 11-page affidavt on the case.  It might be something that you would find an interesting read.  It's from a PI who researched the events of that night, along with ongoing events of the case.  
She was hired in 2004 (by the defense team) to make sure the 't's were crossed etc. before Sedley Alley was executed.  My initial thought was that it was a last minute ditch effort to save him from the Death Penalty.  However, what she uncovered and compliled was some interesting information that had been hidden, ignored, and/or supressed by the DA, including timelines, eyewitness evidence and ultimately the ideas and thoughts that another person COULD HAVE actually done the murder.
The biggest thing is how politics seems to play in this case, and how people are (or are not) doing things that give the appearance of a coverup.  Very scary and VERY concerning!
Bottom line is that IF Sedley Alley did this heineous crime, he has finally paid the ultimate price for it.  HOWEVER, if he didn't...a murderer is still on the loose and Suzanne has no rest.
For acuracy, I have also posted this info on the Sedley Alley page.
--PattiJinCO 19:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  User:'Martylunsford', can you email me?

message: But I don't know your email. You can email me at my user name at hotmail.
Martylunsford 02:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I would...

message: Martylunsford, I sent you the info.  Thanks.  --24.9.155.16 14:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Remembering Her Today on the 21st Anniversary...

message: All murder cases-every single one of them-have anomalies that can't be easily explained.  Death penalty opponents know this, and use it every chance they get, with claims of "new" evidence, innappropriate requests for DNA testing, out-of-context quotes, etc., ad nauseum.  The basic facts presented to the jury were plain and simple:  Alley took the police to the murder site, correctly identified the site, and correctly identified the tree from which he took the branch he impaled her on.  He pleaded not guilty for reasons of insanity at his trial, and maintained this claim for nearly 20 years.  It was not until DNA testing began to (1) help free the wrongfully-convicted, and (2) provide endless delays in executing the guilty, that he changed his tune and decided to work the system.  DNA testing is not a litmus test for guilt or innocence; it merely provides possible evidence of someone's location at some point in time, perhaps known, perhaps unknown.  Results of DNA tests are often irrelevant to a particular situation, and we depend on state attorneys general to protect us from attempted fraudulent use of DNA testing in murder cases.
Everything else, including discrepancies in police investigation timelines, length of taped confessions, etc., simply cannot undo the fact that he identified the murder site and tree, and made an insanity plea.
Consequences2 17:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is any of this conversation related to editing this article? Please remember article talk pages are not forums. momoricks (make my day) 04:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

text: There's plenty. His shoe prints didn't match, nor did the tires. The murder also occurred while he was under surveillance and he didn't match the eyewitness description. In all likelihood they fed him what to say. 2600:8801:C800:50D:11F6:28F6:AC70:6D20 (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In all likelihood it was John Borup (he matched the description, thought they were exclusive when she was seeing another man, and was with her that night.) All too often state attorney generals are craven cowards who lie their balls off to protect their careers. 2600:8801:C800:50D:11F6:28F6:AC70:6D20 (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti DP activism is usually behind "questions"

message: There was a draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jack and Trudy Collins; the reviewer suggested merging its contents into this article. —rybec 10:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles for Creation draft about her parents 

message: Is it necessary to say 'allegedly' when he was convicted? 216.8.187.209 (talk) 19:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegedly