Talk:Mackinac Island

message: Lists of notable residents are, by consensus, typically limited to people with existing articles. Otherwise, an article listing people from New York City would include my aunt who, I assure you, is not notable (sorry!) along with several million other people. When editors add red linked names to these lists, the WP:CONSENSUS notice reads, "Your recent edit to (article name) appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you." In other words, if you know of a notable person who you feel should be on the list, write the article first, then add them to the list.
Constructive discussion before I remove this guy again? - SummerPhD (talk) 13:11, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless the article has a notice restricting itself the notable people section to persons only with articles, notable people without an article can be listed if they have references that meet WP:RS to back up their notability. The comparison of Porter Hanks to your Aunt in New York is silly in the extreme. Hanks has had poetry written about him over 100 years after his death....William 14:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: List of people from New York City along with hundreds of other such lists are typically limited to entries with pre-existing articles. I am unsure why you feel this article is somehow different. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I placed Porter Hanks on the list because he is more notable than the majority of people already on the list. Virtually every history textbook on the War of 1812 mentions him and the key role he played while on the island. I added his name because its omission was glaringly obvious to me. Having the criteria be whether or not there is a Wikipedia page on him seems a poor one to me. Plenty of notable historical figures have no Wikipedia page. However, it's no skin off my nose to impoverish the list by removing him.DanQuigley 20:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

text: I have taken a stab at writing a notable article about Lt. Hanks.  Comments are welcome.  Bigturtle (talk) 21:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porter Hanks 

message: Mackinac Island is an island. Mackinac Island, Michigan is a city whose territory comprises the island and the smaller uninhabited Round Island (Michigan). We don't need separate articles for the island and city: for analogy, Manhattan Island and Manhattan (borough) redirect to the same article, which article explains that the borough includes other smaller lands as well as (nearly all of) the eponymous island. Mackinac Island about the island is a featured article. Mackinac Island, Michigan about the city is inferior and contains mostly a repetition of information in the island article, with sentences and navboxes that aren't in the island article but could easily be. The main extra bit in the city article is the tedious demographic info generated by  bots. If that tedious info can be curated into a human-friendly form and added to the island article then the city article becomes completely redundant. 
Previous merge discussion in 2004–2005 at Talk:Mackinac Island/archive#older entries and Talk:Mackinac Island, Michigan#Merge was instigated by ; nobody supported a merger but the four commenters' arguments were IMHO weak:  and  seemed worried that the bot info would look bad in the other article (I agree, see above);  and  said the two island and municipality were different concepts (I agree, cf. Manhattan). jnestorius(talk) 01:08, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 2019 

message: The article lists Mackinac Island as being  in area, but that figure appears to be inaccurate.  The city article (Mackinac Island, Michigan) also lists the entire city as being , which is listed as the city's land area in the 2010 census (Page 61).  However, the city's boundaries in that figure also include neighboring Round Island, which that article lists (without a reference) as .  How can Mackinac Island—the island and the jurisdiction—be the same size, when they are not conterminous?  Are there any documents that list the actual size of Mackinac Island (the island only), because the  area listed in the island article cannot be accurate since it also includes the area of the separate Round Island.  If the Round Island area of  is accurate, shouldn't Mackinac Island (the island) be listed as  (if a reliable source for Round Island's area can be located)?  —Notorious4life (talk) 00:27, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find any good sources, but here's one that says 3.8 square miles:  GA-RT-22 (talk) 17:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area 

message: This older Featured Article does not meet the current FA criteria. There are several unsourced paragraphs, the "notable people" section is almost completely unsourced, and I could find trivia in the article. Virtually all links are from 2007/8. The sourcing seems weak for a Featured Article; for instance mightymac.org and grandhotel.com seem promotional and not high-quality. Article needs work and I see similar concerns directly above. RetiredDuke (talk) 18:22, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA in need of review 

message: Where was Somewhere In Time shot? In the "Points of interest" section we say at the Grand Hotel, but in the "Film" section we say Mission Point. Which was it? GA-RT-22 (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Location shooting was done at the Grand Hotel, with Mission Point Resort used for soundstage work.Bigturtle (talk) 22:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where was ''Somewhere In Time'' shot?