Talk:Smash (The Offspring album)

message: The article says Killboy Powerhead is their only cover on the album, but that's not true. I can think of at least one other, "Feelings" from Americana.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.60.220 (talk) 05:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: This is NOT a punk album. It's too catchy, it's too poppy, it's not political, its lyrics are too humourous. So leave it as pop punk. Cacodyl (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree on this one. If you ask me, nothing on this album can be described as "poppy" and it's a pretty heavy album, so I'd really not put "pop punk" as one of the genres for this one. In addition, there are a lot of society-critical lyrics on this album; plus, the album is rather serious, with little humour (which wouldn't make it a pop punk album anyway). Anrod (talk) 08:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Just because this album contains a grunge influence doesn't mean The Offspring is either grunge or post-grunge. They're not even as grunge as Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. Alex (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Smash may have been influenced by grunge, but to me, calling it a grunge album just doesn't make much sense; it doesn't even sound like Alice in Chains, it doesn't even sound like Pearl Jam and it doesn't even sound like Soundgarden. Grunge is about a lot different than what the music on this album sounds like, like for example: if you listen to songs like "Come Out and Play" or "Self Esteem", they sound a bit different than grunge. Alex (talk) 22:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

text: First of all, please remain civil. Secondly, Smash is widely regarded as a punk rock album, however, you need a source to verify it as post-grunge. WIthout such a source, you cannot add this genre to the infobox. Please note that your opinion is not considered a reliable source. Nouse4aname (talk) 11:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NOT PUNK

message: Ok, where has the speedy deletion request come from and why? The page needs a cleanup, not deleting. Far too much unsourced info and is obviously written by fans with no NPOV at all. I'm trying to tidy it up. Have removed the multiple wikilinks that plagued the page before...Nouse4aname 15:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speedy Deletion

message: I do not really think that Smash (or any other Offspring album for that matter) is necessarily a "concept album". I feel that the term is only applied very loosely in this instance. Just because many of the songs are about "violence or destruction of public property" does not mean it is a concept album. Many albums by many bands tend to have a theme that links many/all of the songs, however I doubt that this constitutes a concept album. Nouse4aname 15:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right - for a concept album, there has to be a strong and clear bind between all of the songs. Anrod (talk) 08:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Concept Album?

message: Why is "the" missing from the album cover? Is it only stylistic reasons or is there some significance to that? --Mika1h 19:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover art 

message: It says in this article that Smash had become Epitaph's best-selling album since Bad Religion's Suffer album. Suffer was not only released six years before Smash, but didn't Epitaph actually have any best-selling records released between Suffer and Smash (like anything from Pennywise, Rancid or NOFX)?
For now, I'm going to leave the citation needed tag on that paragraph until someone figures this out. I'm just really confused here. 71.130.209.255 (talk) 16:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Best-selling album since Suffer?

message: Very minor detail, but the article states that Rancid in Bad Religion were offered major label deals due to the success of Smash and Dookie.  In fact, Bad Religion signed to Atlantic in 1993, months prior to Smash's release.  Epitaph founder and BR guitarist Brett Guerwitz says BR left Epitaph so he could leave their promotion in the hands of others and concentrate on running Epitaph separately. He is also quick to point out the irony that the bands on his indie label like the Offspring got huge while his own band on a major did not.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.104.171 (talk) 05:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing that out. I changed Bad Religion to NOFX and Pennywise because I noticed those bands were aksed to get sign for a major label. OttoBR (talk) 03:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Timeline Issue With Bad Religion

message: thats not true, most albums after the release of smash have sold better than ignition.  also the source given does not provide any basis for this statement.  i suggest this be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.58.205.51 (talk) 11:36, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of removing that sentence, I'll leave the citation needed tag there for now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.21 (talk) 17:19, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: making the sales of the album only better than its predecessor, Ignition

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message: The comment about the album's release coming 3 days after Kurt Cobain's death was written poorly. It is also unclear how the album's release was ironic, or how Cobain's death was even relevant to the discussion of this album.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:AE:0:204F:A52F:6EC7:5C53:4EB4 (talk) 15:35, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed comment about Kurt Cobain in opening paragaph 

message: As of today, this article states that Smash was recorded between October–December 1993 but I am sure that is not the entire truth. First of all, this source states that "The studio [Track Records] also happened to be a few miles from the epicenter of the Northridge Quake, which hit a few days into their recording sessions. The day before the Quake, Holland says, Greg K. was recording his bass lines, but they decided to head out early." The Northridge earthquake hit on January 17, 1994 which means the recording of the album could not have been completed by December 1993. Also, in this source there is the following written about Thom Wilson (the producer): "When he marshaled the Offspring last February for the final recording onslaught on "Smash" [...]". This means that the recording process lasted at least until February 1994. Finally, this source clearly states that Smash was recorded between January–February 1994, which I also think is correct. If anyone can find any reliable sources for the recording dates of October–December 1993, please let me know here. --Kigsz (talk) 10:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, after reading your message, I changed the recording dates from October–December 1993 to January–February 1994 in some of the sentences in this article. 107.218.152.97 (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was this album really recorded? 

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