Talk:Montenegrin cap

message: Is there any apparent difference between the two? Both are the exact same shape and color, and much of modern Montenegro was considered Herzegovina until the late 19th century. In most texts they are referred to as the same cap (Kariklija or the more common Zavratka). This should be mentioned in the article. Critikal1 (talk) 01:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Montenegrin or Herzegovinian Cap

message: This is according to this publishing of the Royal Geographical Society (The Geographical Journal) of the Institute of British Geographers. I have Number 5, Volume IV in my possession, from November of 1894. The article is called "Montenegro and its borderlands" and was written by W. H. Cozens-Hardy, M.A.
So it might not just be a plain myth invented in the 20th century... --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 17:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Geographical Journal 

message: *Dr Pavle Vasi smatra, da najraniji opis crnogorske kape daje Vijala de Somijer, koji je kao Napoleonov oficir putovao po Crnoj Gori 1808. godine. "Dr. Paul Vasi believes that the earliest description of the Montenegrin cap is given by Viala de Somiere, who, as Napoleon's officer, traveled to Montenegro in 1808".(page 51)
*Jedan opis crnogorske dijaspore u Srbiji daje Radivoje – Raško Deni, Srbin iz Medvee, koji opisujui crnogorske koloniste davne 1887. godine, opisuje i njihove kape: « ... na glavi crnogorske kape sa amblemima N. I (Nikola prvi). Dakle, iz navedenih opisa uoavamo dvovjekovnu potvrdu nepromijenjivosti izgleda crnogorske kape, njen autentini izgled i funkciju u Crnogorskom narodu.» "One description of the Montenegrin diaspora in Serbia is given by Radivoje - Rasko Deni, a Serb from Medvea, who describes Montenegrin colonists as far back as 1887, describing their caps as well: «... on the head of a Montenegrin hat with N.I (Nikola first) emblems. Therefore, from the above descriptions we can see two centuries of confirmation of the invariability of the appearance of the Montenegrin cap, its authentic appearance and function in the Montenegrin people.”(page 52)
*Prvi likovni prikaz crnogorske kape u dvobojnoj varijanti (kapa sa crnim obodom i crvenijem tjemenom) nalazimo na akvarelu Filipa Vukasovia „Crnogorci“ datiranom 1782. godine. Vukasoviev akvarel se s pravom uzima kao kljuni dokaz  u osporavanju teorije, da je dvobojnost crnogorske kape djelo Petra II Petrovića Njegoša. "The first visual depiction of the Montenegrin cap in a two-color variant (a hat with a black rim and a redder scalp) is found on the watercolor of Filip Vukasovio "Montenegrins", dated 1782. Vukasovio watercolor is rightly taken as key evidence in challenging the theory that two colored Montenegrin caps are the work of Peter II Petrović Njegoš."(page 52)https://issuu.com/vijececg/docs/cg_glasnik_84 
*Montenegro,Josef Holeček (writer) (1876). Prema njegovom opisu, crnogorska kapa ima obod od crne svile i crveni tepeluk koji je po ivicama izvezen zlatom, a na jednom kraju, takođe izvezen zlatom, nalazi se crnogorski orao. "According to his description, the Montenegrin cap has a rim of black silk and red rug embroidered with gold on the edges and on one end, also embroidered with gold, is Montenegrin eagle.(page 389).Mladen Zadrima CRNOGORSKA NARODNA NOŠNJA
KROZ OPISE STRANIH PUTOPISACA,  http://www.maticacrnogorska.me/files/78/21%20mladen%20zadrima%2078.pdf Mikola22 (talk) 09:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informations about  the Montenegrin Cap