Talk:Serapis

message: Serapis (mythology) → Serapis:
*"Serapis" overwhelmingly refers to the Egyptian god. The Babylonian god is rather rare, and by the way also qualifies as "mythology", making the existing name of the Egyptian god's article improper.
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* Support This will of course require an admin --Lox (t,c) 15:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
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*Commment Serapis currently redirects to Serapis (disambiguation) which currently links to Serapis instead of Serapis (mythology). I have fixed this, but if the page is moved, it will have to be changed again. --Lox (t,c) 15:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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* Support This will of course require an admin --Lox (t,c) 15:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
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*Commment Serapis currently redirects to Serapis (disambiguation) which currently links to Serapis instead of Serapis (mythology). I have fixed this, but if the page is moved, it will have to be changed again. --Lox (t,c) 15:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Hello. I am trying to get a photo I uploaded on Wiki Commons to appear in the Serapis Gallery section of this article, but it doesn't seem to show up for me. Can anyone help? The image is located HERE. Artemisboy (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery Image 

message: I agree that the article presents the accepted Etymology for Serapis.  And that the earliest accepted mention is with the death of Alexander in 323BC.
That being said, Homer and Hesiod mention his mythological wife, Io, several hundred years prior.  And the Serapeum of Saqarra was built in the 18th dynasty, 1000 years prior, dated to Amenhotep III.  So he appears to be a lost god or pharoah from 18th dynasty Egypt.
Not accepted yet, Serapis can be identified as Ahmose Sipair.  Sipair is a close, but false reading of the name; close enough that you can see that there is no Apis/Hapi in the name, if this is correct, which it is.
The problem with the rendering of this name, Sipair, is in the goose glyph, g39.  This is typically an "s", see Siptah, or coptic "Smoune"(goose).  It is not always an "s", see Geb (formerly Seb, via Budge); this k/g render derives from coptic "qoshe"(goose).  Sipair, however, is a g39, followed by z1(stroke - r determinitive[coptic - "roht"(stroke)).  In this particular spelling, coptic "r - ro"(goose) is used for g39, instead of the typical "s - smoune". 75.31.164.210 (talk) 18:49, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology Disputed 

message: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Tacitus/Histories/4D*.html
"A temple, befitting the size of the city, was erected in the quarter called Rhacotis; there had previously been on that spot an ancient shrine dedicated to Serapis and Isis. Such is the most popular account of the origin and arrival of the god. Yet I am not unaware that there are some who maintain that the god was brought from Seleucia in Syria in the reign of Ptolemy III;​10 still others claim that the same Ptolemy introduced the god, but that the place from which he came was Memphis, once a famous city and the bulwark of ancient Egypt. Many regard the god himself as identical with Aesculapius, because he cures the sick; some as Osiris, the oldest god among these peoples; still more identify him with Jupiter as the supreme lord of all things; the majority, however, arguing from the attributes of the god that are seen on his statueº or from their own conjectures, hold him to be Father Dis.11" 150.195.199.25 (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tacitus