Talk:Australian League of Rights

message: This article claims that the ALOR openly promotes this document, yet any evidence of this claim is absent from its website. I am thus remiving this claim, and other unsubstantiated claims that reveal a POV. User: Maximus Meridius.
:A google search for references to the Protocols on the ALOR website brings up at least 11 results in which they refer to it as being true.  Furthermore, the book, alongside such other classics as Mein Kampf, is available for purchase in the ALOR's Heritage bookstore.
:"...they have also been accused of being associated with the Australian National Socialist Party" is not a POV statement.  They are accused of being associated with the ANSP in David Harcourt's (at the time) definitive work on 20th century Australian neo-Nazism, Everyone Wants To Be Fuhrer (1977?) Drett 18:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Material restored... plus some fantastic references. Drett 18:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, there is no problem about including what left-leaning publications say so long as the attribution is clear. That the ALOR supports the accuracy of the Protocols is clearly shown on their website. It wasn't hard to find, you just put Protocols in the search box. Dougweller (talk) 14:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately almost all commentary on the ALOR has come from far left critics. They have branded the group as far more extreme and right wing than it actually was. It is probable that some members were anti-Semitic, some may have been Nazis. That does not make the group anti-semitic or neo-Nazi any more than it would have made the Australian Labour party anti-semitic or neo-Nazi if some of its members were anti-semitic or neo-Nazi - as some no doubt were.101.98.155.186 (talk) 02:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Protocols of the Elders of Zion

message: I've added a paragraph about the League's little-known but near-successful attempt to take over the National Party. Peer review and merciless editing welcome. Can anyone provide citations? My knowledge of this event comes from my father, who was one of the people who worked hard to keep the League out of the NPA.
Also:
* I changed "The League is based on the principles of Christianity ..." to "The League claims to be based on the principles of Christianity ...".
* Wikipedia should have an article about Eric Butler.
* This article should mention Eric Butler.
Chris Chittleborough 14:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: we now have an article about Eric Butler, and this article wikilinks to it. CWC 15:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any actual evidence that there was a genuine attempt by the ALOR to take over the ANP, much less that it was "near-successful"?101.98.155.186 (talk) 03:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempt to take over NPA 

message: My father also tells me that the League of Rights flourished during the 1950s, with lots of activities, energetic recruiting and well-funded publications. Much later, he says, it came out that the CIA had given them US$1,000,000 to "fight communism". I have no reason to doubt this story (it would not be the only time a lunar right group got US gov't money in the name of fighting communism) but I also have no usable citations. Chris Chittleborough 08:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I should made myself clearer: I'm asking if any other editors have any Wikipedia:Reliable Sources about this alleged payment. (And I could give you reasons to doubt the moon is made of cheese ... jk). Cheers, CWC 15:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged CIA Funding 

message: Does anyone have a reference/citation for the links between the ALOR and the One Nation Party? My understanding is that one of the reasons David Oldfield and David Ettridge set up that bizarre organisational structure was to prevent ALOR from infiltrating and subverting ON. Of course, (1) I might be wrong, and (2) there would almost be certainly be some sort of linkage, though possibly nothing formal. Cheers, CWC(talk) 23:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's some good ones:    ... One of the chapters in Pauline's book was written by someone from ALOR too, if I recall. Drett 01:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. (I should have remembered about Graeme Campbell.) Cheers, CWC(talk) 06:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  League of Rights and One Nation 

message: I've put a  tag on this. Although they're both far right, National Action uses the Eureka Flag and is strongly republican, whereas ALOR is strongly monarchist.  --Apeloverage 10:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I too find this association to be unlikely, FWIW. CWC 10:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: David Greason (one of the founders of NA) was quite involved in ALOR.  I'm aware that some NA people (like Ross May) are also connected, will try and find a good source. Drett 01:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The only person who think Greason had anything to do with the founding of NA is Greason himself. The man is a walking lie but because he published a book the left fawn over him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.113.209.115 (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: League of Rights and National Action

message: I think that it is contentious to say the least to describe the League of Rights as a "far right and anti-semitic political organization". It was conservative rather than right wing, and right wing rather than far right. The suggestion that it was Nazi or neo-Nazi was never more than a smear by opponents. It was not anti-Semitic. The league may well have supported David Irving, but he is not anti-Semitic, and even if he was it didn't support him for that reason. Eric Butler might well have been anti-Semitic - many people were at that time - but anti-Semitism was never league policy. There were many anti-Semites amongst the Soviet Communist Party, but it would be wrong to describe the CPSU as a anti-Semitic organization. And finally, it was not a political organization.101.98.175.68 (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misrepresentation 

message: Why is an article on the Australian League of Rights part of a series on Nazism? The ALR is no more Nazi than the British Labour Party is Communist - actually less so, since BLR members still sing The Internationale. The ALR never claimed to be Nazi or supported Nazism. As an anti-Communist and patriotic group they would have opposed Nazism.101.98.155.186 (talk) 02:55, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the sidebar, and hopefully made the lead a bit more neutral, per my comments at Talk:New Zealand League of Rights. Quite contradictory to state outright that the league was neo-nazi, but then only quote authors who state the league is not neo-Nazi. IgnorantArmies (talk) 04:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazism 

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