Talk:Skin (Japanese band)

message: I think we should take down that info claiming that they're touring japan in the fall. Miyavi himself is going to be in korea in the fall (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2007/06/143_5005.html), and yoshiki and gackt have both said in either press releases or interviews that this project is for the international fans and that japan would be last if they even played there at all. We've got some contradicting information at the moment, so I think, until we can find another source confirming any appearances in japan by the band, that I'll take that line out for now. At the moment, the evidence against going to japan is much stronger than the one article in japanese that hardly anyone can read claiming they're going there. If anyone has any info on any shows AFTER the AX one, please share it, because I haven't seen any press releases from yoshiki or anyone else on it yet. (Tsukiakari 06:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I found the source for the mix up with the november japan dates- It appears that Yoshiki is having Violet UK perform at the opening for a horror movie in japan that he wrote some music to, and that's happening in october- it's rather close, and the only thing I think it could have been mixed up with. Here's the link talking about the show- http://www.jrockrevolution.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=98 (72.91.27.241 05:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touring Japan? 

message: Skin's origin is currently Japan, which is obvious, as all members are Japanese. However, the band seems to be basing activity out of Los Angeles, Yoshiki is a resident of Los Angeles and the initial announcment and debut were made in the United States. Maybe the United States should be labelled as the "Origin"
Also, Yoshiki's MySpace (as it does seeme to REALLY be his) speaks of meetings with the members in Los Angeles, rather than Japan. Any thoughts?--Jacob 12:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The template manual suggests to list the founding city of the given group, I guess we should go with L.A. then. - Cyrus XIII 00:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: ... due to edit warring over what is now obviously a content dispute. Guys, can you work out the differences here, please, reach some consensus and get back to me (or WP:RPP when you'd like to have protection lifted. But for now, you need to work this one through - Alison ☺ 07:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given what happened at Wikipedia:Requests for protection, as well as on several other pages,    would you agree to revert the page to semi-protected, should the previous, IP based editor fail to make a genuine attempt at discussing on this talk page within the next 24 hours? - Cyrus XIII 08:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page fully protected 

message: Recent Fools Mate special confirms the following.  http://www.fools-mate.co.jp/pc/yoyaku/is01.html
Fools Mate VOL.311, with Yoshiki also confirms the same information.
1. The bands name is S.K.I.N, but pronounced as Skin.
2. The band is a Supergroup.
3. The band is classified as Visual Kei rock.
4. Japanese spelling of the bands name is スキン  (su-kin)
This article is somewhat incorrect, as others have said, and needs to be updated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.49.150.146 (talk) 00:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for providing a reference (Fools Mate VOL.311).  The article should be amended to include "supergroup" and "visual kei" now.  I see nothing wrong with a request to put Skin (written S.K.I.N) or some such in the article either - but the title of the article should be Skin, and the remaining mentions of the name should remain Skin - which is wikipedia's standards, nothing personal against the band. Denaar 02:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In what way is Skin visual kei? What are their current looks. I am only asking because I have not seen them as a band, I have no experience with them. Are they calling themselves a visual kei band, or that they all come from visual kei background? --Jacob Talk 04:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are videos up of the band on you tube, as well as a long report (I'm not sure if it was a news report) from behind the scences where they show their stage outfits.  I have some pictures as well but I'm not sure if I should link to them since they are another fans and not mine.  I would certainly call them Visual Kei based on looks, but that is a really bad way to decide.  I've learned the best way to know is to see what the band/magazines say, because there are a bunch of "soft kei" bands that are just normal-looking people with nice clothing. Denaar 14:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fools Mate 

message: This article needs to be reverted back to the former revision, and updated to include the new information provided by FOOLS MATE magazine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jun kaneko (talk • contribs) 
:Request denied, you must show consensus then request unprotection for content changes. --ST47Talk·Desk 15:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unprotect

message: Change 1 The followng references need to be removed. (2) because it is a dead link. (4) and (5) because these references do not provide any information to the article.
Change 2 The opening sentence needs to be changed to "S.K.I.N is a visual kei superband, formed in May 2007, Los Angeles, California. The band has announced that an album will be released in 2008." (these references need to be added here http://www.fools-mate.co.jp/pc/yoyaku/is01.html and  http://www.jmusicamerica.com/us/article.php?id=2351)
Change 3 The history section needs to be changed to the following.
:"In August, 2006, former X Japan drummer Yoshiki Hayashi, announced at US anime convention Otakon that he would start a band with Japanese singer Gackt (ex-Malice Mizer). (this reference http://www.jmusiceuropa.com/uk/article.php?id=88 added here)
:In Decemeber, 2006, it was reported that Sugizo (ex-Luna Sea) would be the third official member.
:In May 25, 2007, the bands name was officially announced as S.K.I.N, along with a fourth member, Miyavi (ex-Dué le Quartz).
:The band gave its debut performance on June 29, 2007, at an Anime Expo in Long Beach, California."
Change 4 The "skin promotinal clip in external links needs to be replaced with the offical website http://www.yoshiki.net/jp/flv/skin_logo.html which links to that.
Change 5 The genre in background information needs to be replaced with visual kei
:Please sign your posts and put them at the end of the talk page. These sorts of canges aren't appropriate while the page is protected. Find consensus to resolve whatever disagreement led to protection and then request unprotection at WP:RFPP. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: There have been many valid points made as to why the band title on the page should be changed to it's proper form, which is S.K.I.N. This is a fact which has been supported on EVERYTHING officially linked to the band. To write the bands name in any other form is just improper and unprofessional. The band members themselves are the ONLY ones who have the right to determine the proper form for their name. AkewataruAurora 02:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with AkewataruAurora. 122.49.161.126 13:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Have you read the previous discussion, along with the relevant part of the Wikipedia Manual of Style (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks))? - Cyrus XIII 02:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This sort of change is not what editprotected requests are for. To get the article renamed you will have to find consensus for the change. It will not be renamed while it is protected. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request 

message: I'm taking a chance and unprotecting this article, given the conversations here. Note that any further revert-warring and sock-puppetry and the protection will be immediately re-applied - Alison ❤ 20:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotected 

message: does anyone have a source about the band gave its debut performance in front of an audience of 15000 people?
Because I listened only around 6000 http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1141853
--200.111.61.131 (talk) 19:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There were not 15k people at that concert. I believe you're right that it was only around 6k. The number's not in the S.K.I.N. FAQ over at JRR, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a number given over at skin-online.net and that's as good as official since it's run by the same staff as JRR. Try looking through the forum over there to see if you can find a number, or PM one of the JRR/S-O mods for help. :) (Tsukiakari (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  15.000 people? 

message: Question "What does S.K.I.N. stand for?" Doesn't mean what name or word 'S.K.I.N.' is meaning, but what for is standing ( political, global problem, peace etc. ). Band members didn't decided that or just aren't standing behind nothing but themself. Think before writing something as a proof, what isn't true.
For what reason "S.K.I.N." shouldn't had their all caps name like ABBA, AC/DC, R.E.M., that's opposite of human rights, and not to say there is other artists typed as Skin (musician) (musician) and Skin (British band) (band).--GreyWolfy (talk) 22:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name should be changed 

message: I've started correcting some errors in this article, but there are many, and saying I have an amazing grasp of english grammar would be presumptuous at best. Would it be possible to have some help? As it stands, this article is very hard to read.
Also, not to add oil to a dying flame, but couldn't we compromise on the name? For instance, on the +DespairsRay+ page, this is the intro line : "D'espairsRay (ディスパーズレイ, Disupāzurei?, formerly typeset as DéspairsRay or +DéspairsRay+)" and Exist trace has this line : "Exist Trace (often typeset as exist†trace)"
With that in mind, could we not write "Skin (often typeset as S.K.I.N.)"?
Anyways, my main point was that the spelling and grammar need to be reviewed. I leave you all on that note. Have a good day.
205.236.4.254 (talk) 13:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am responsible for the last edits, and since I'm not native speaker of English, nor have very advanced education, but have informational resources, and a vision for an article. So any spelling and grammar correction, without talking, it would be a great help, and in fact that it connects people.--Shurin (talk) 13:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling, grammar, and syntax? 

message: The title of thisi page must be S.K.I.N (pronounce: "Es-Kei-I-En") and NOT "Skin". It is a different name ,and a different spelling  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.29.130.233 (talk) 14:09, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  S.K.I.N