Talk:Ralph McTell

message: Not really fair to refer to the Dylan Project as a Fairport Convention spin-off, as one of its prime movers is Steve Gibbons, whose only connecion to fairport is knowing the other nstigator, Dave Pegg,frm their work togetherin the Uglys. Half the band have layed with Fairport, the others are from Steve Gibbon's various band line-ups. Being familiar with the work of Steve Gibbons and Fairport, I say the Dylan Project is more Steve Gibbons than Fairport. Gibbons is simply one of the best interpreters of Dylan's work around.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Worbleswick (talk • contribs) 01:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed and deleted.  Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dylan Project

message: The style of the article is a bit strange: everything is broken into single sentences instead of being grouped into paragraphs of two of three sentences. There is no discography (albums/ singles) so it is rather difficult for me to add this information: There is a new Ralph McTell album: "Gates of Eden" (2007) Ogg 19:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled discussion]

message: hi, not sure how to correct this myself (so hopefully somebody else more knowledgeable in these matters can sort it out) but if you click on the 'revisited' link in the list of ralph's albums, it takes you to a page concerning a peter gabriel album of the same name Cleverclogs1960 (talk) 20:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dodgy Link 

message: Am I right in saying that McTell refuses to sing "Streets of London" live? I know someone who went to a show and he wouldn't do it. Later, the comedy sketch show "Big Train" did a sketch on him where all anyone wanted to hear was "Streets of London" - possibly parodying the situation? Link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSTr7rb1_Y--82.0.207.86 (talk) 08:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ralph almost invariably DOES sing 'Streets of London' in his live shows.  There have been periods in his career when this was not true, but they were short-lived and long ago.  The "Big Train" parody is more likely to be highlighting the fact that most people know "Streets of London" but nothing else from Ralph's vast repertoire of self-penned and covered songs. Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 14:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Live 

message: The text of the this article has been shaped by a number of editors over a long period, and I have no desire to alter either its shape or its content. I have added citations for the direct quotations, and intend in due course to check the chronology against McTell's published biographical material.
Meanwhile, an anonymous editor has recently added the following statement to the 'Record Deal' section of the article, which deals with the period 1967 to 1969:
"It was during this period that he also struck up a lifelong friendship with legendary ex-Wings sound engineer Doon Graham."
This might be true - Gordoon "Doon" Graham was certainly McTell's sound engineer between 1976 and 1995 - but:
1. The statement implies that Graham left Wings before 1970.  This is improbable, given that Wings was not formed until 1971; and
2. There is no mention of Graham in the Wings article, and I can find no evidence of his 'legendary' status elsewhere in Wikipedia.
I would welcome others' opinions.
Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 17:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Doon" Graham 

message: I have upped the article rating to GA-Class. Peer review welcomed. What else does it need to become a Featured Article? Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not having "Ralph" appearing throughout would be a start. Plus more (or some) verifiable references. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 22:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL. To quote you, "Not everything needs references – just things that could be challenged, such as chart placings, for example."  What else would you like to challenge? Which references can't you verify? As for "Ralph" appearing throughout, I believe the style guide suggests allowing the original editor's style to prevail. Please correct me if I missed something. Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 01:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, last names should be used, unless, of course, two people share the same name in the article. And I'm not talking about challenging anything, just that listing a bunch of books is unlikely to suffice for GA status. Thanks for the "LOL", though - someone's use of internet slang always fills me with endless confidence... - Dudesleeper /  Talk 04:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: KO, we'll stick at B. Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 09:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Rating 

message: I undid the removal of the BLP Sources template based on the article's numerous unsourced statements. Just for example:
*Three lead paragraphs, no citations
*Biography intro, three paragraphs and only one citation
*Teens, Black Music, Busker subsections, each with three paragraphs and only one citation per subsection
*Record Deal subsection, no citations
*Into the 1970s, very long section and one citation
*Similar shortage of sources for all subsequent sections
Having just 15 citations in an article of this length comes up far short of Verifiability and Biography of Living Persons guidelines. I realize that the books used in the cites probably cover all the unsourced material, but page numbers are needed so that one does not have to go through every page to verify what's being said. For examples of articles that adhere to these standards, see Bob Dylan and Neil Young or for non-living figures, Woody Guthrie and Frank Zappa. Allreet (talk) 04:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation. I checked this out last year and thought I had satisfied the guidelines - see 'Citations and Discography' above. I'll work on your interpretation of the WikiRules. Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 09:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added additional citations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notthesameasyouremail (talk • contribs) 19:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography of Living Persons Sources Tag 

message: McTell's Leola Music record label released Affairs of the Heart  on Valentine's Day 2010. If the editor who is looking after the discography wants to add it, the catalogue number is TGPCD30 and there is a tracklising here  Andy F (talk) 20:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Added as suggested.  I have not put catalogue numbers in the discography, though I will do so if folk think it helpful. I am slowly adding individual articles for each release, and these include the catalogue numbers.Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 00:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  To add to discography 

message: Although many of his albums are mentioned in this article, almost none of them are linked to their respective articles specifically about the album. I was going to change them, but since I'm new here I thought I would make sure that it was not done on purpose.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stoopkitty (talk • contribs) 22:48, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All albums with Wikilinks are indicated in the Discography section at the bottom of the article. Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 00:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But it's a good idea to add links in the main text, so go right ahead ;~)) Notthesameasyouremail (talk) 08:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Albums? 

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