Talk:Battleship Potemkin

message: Isn't this movie available somewhere in a non-proprietary format? Copyright has expired, so it's legal to put a link to a good quality version on Wikipedia. I tried looking on Archive.org, but they don't have it (yet?). Guaka 16:14, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, they do now , though I haven't tried downloading it so I don't know what the quality's like, or if there's a better version somewhere. --Estrellador* 17:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: available non-proprietary format?

message: It is usually written in simplified form Потемкин in Russia (instead of Потёмкин), but it is still pronounced in English "Potyomkin", not "Potyemkin" (in fact, it is pronounced "Patyomkin" because of unstressed "o") Pibwl 23:59, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In English it's pronounced "Poh-tem-kin" because we don't know any better :P D Boland (talk) 21:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Russian

message: The Maoist International Movement review here is actually a fairly poor-quality and perfunctory review. There is a brief biography of Eisenstein and only a paragraph or two about the movie itself, focusing mostly on one or two very minor details.  From reading this review, a reader would get very little idea of the historical significance of the film or even what the film was about.  My personal opinion is that this is not a worthy external link. -- Curps 18:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Review poor

message: The whole section removed.
:Being released in 1925, it has been suggested that the film was a response to the social disorder of the Russian Civil War. 1921 had seen the Kronstadt Rebellion, a naval revolt in St Petersberg, in response to the War Communism policies of Bolshevik rule. The release of the film could be seen as part of an ongoing attempt to pacify and rehabilitate the Navy and the Russian people as a whole.
This is a speculation. mikka (t) 18:12, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Historical context" section removed 

message: Page about the December 5 says, that it was premiered on December 5 1926, however the film was made in 1925. What is the truth behind this? --romanm (talk) 12:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premiere 

message: An anon tries to add a change that the movie was not a hit with Russian audiences and even added a strange reference ("Ivan the Terible"; without actual quote ). Either he is simply trolling  or doesn't understand the time and place. Any new film was a hit in Russia in 1925. there were not so many of them. You were watching what you got. And it was to the tastes of workers and peasants. And probably not to the tastes of refined esthets.  `'mikka (t) 21:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, its simple. The ideologoy of the Americans and the Russians was different. However, not every Russian was fully literate in Marx, most of them were average joes who want to watch an action movie. Just like today, most people, no matter the country, want an action movie or a comedy or something not artistic, perhaps more so in the Russian 20s. All proletariats, less educated and wanting more to escapism from their horrible lot in life. Very likely the people who voted it one of the best movies in the world are closer to the bourgeois than the proletariat.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.112.16.133 (talk) 20:22, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A hit or not a hit 

message: Sorry to be frivilous for a moment - but does the chap in this poster look like Ronnie Barker to you? --kylet 18:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly you've never seen any of Andy Warhol's (or almost any other) experimental films. Go watch Empire or Sleep and get back to us on boring. Litch (talk) 02:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I respectfully agree with the Ronnie Barker comment.  Also, although I have not seen the film in its entirety, it does sound pretty boring.  As for the last comment: well that's just where you're wrong I'm afraid.  Sorry mate!  Dr Spam (MD) 07:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lookey Likey 

message: One cannot forget Bonnie and Clyde, the film, when Warren Beatty is shot in the eye. This sequence comes from the film.
Saxophobia 20:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences 

message: Note the problem with note 4.  Looks like someone messed up the reference syntax --Droll 03:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.Cop 633 15:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Can anyone explain as to why, at about minute 42, a well-dressed man in the crowd randomly shouts "Kill the Jews" as they are rallying in support of the sailors?  That just seems really odd, and maybe it should be mentioned in the article.
Rebelyell2006 18:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kill the Jews"? 

message: I'm just curious as to if this should mention the soundtrack that was composed by the band Múm?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.216.234.85 (talk) 01:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Múm 

message: The current version of the article says: "the film shocked audiences, but not so much for its political statements as for its use of violence, which was considered graphic by the standards of the time".  The statement about violence seems unlikely - compare violence levels with the siege of Babylon in the American film Intolerance (1916).--Toddy1 (talk) 19:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Violence

message: Just curious, the ship was broken up in 22, the movie was made in 26 and I doubt Eisentstein was albe to get footage from the real uprising, so who played the Potemkin in The Battleship Potemkin?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.112.16.133 (talk) 07:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who plays Potemkin? 

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message: Is there a good reason that this page is titled "Battleship Potemkin" and that the page for the actual ship is titled "Russian battleship Potemkin"? It seems to me that for most pages, the convention for movies named after real life entities is "X (movie)" and that whatever the movie is about is what will be shown. So, in this case, shouldn't the title be "Battleship Potemkin (movie)" and the actual ship just be "Battleship Potemkin"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.168.11 (talk) 19:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title and redirect 

message: The names of the sections in 'Plot' and in 'Film style and content' were different. I have made them uniform. 'Odessa Staircase' is fairly ridiculous. In the other cases, 'Men and Maggots', 'A Dead Man Calls For Justice' and 'One Against All' sounded better than 'People and worms', 'The dead man calls out' or 'The Rendezvous with the Squadron'. Please revert if you disagree. Jose Mathew C (talk) 08:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Names of Sections

message: :Just when the battle seems inevitable, the sailors of the Tsarist ships incredibly refuse to open fire on their comrades, externalizing with songs and shouts of joy their solidarity with the mutineers and allowing them to pass unmolested through the fleet, waving the red flag.
I hate to be a cynic, ok, that's a lie. But I have to point out - there aren't many colors in this film. How can we be sure it was a red flag and not a white flag, or for that matter a pink or lavender flag inviting the sailors to the local gay bar for a revolutionary after party of hide the torpedo? BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 03:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Flag? 

message: There's absolutely bupkis in this article about the production.  How much did it cost? How many extras were used?  Were they paid?  Who produced it?  How did they get access to the ships?  How long did it take?216.40.152.27 (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production? 

message: Where's Tendra?  
Is that the Tendra Spit?  In 1905 it was an island, but now it's a peninsula?  
I think the article might be slightly more valuable if this were clarified.  Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 03:53, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tendra? 

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message: The fourth paragraph of §Production begins
: Eisenstein began with filming in Leningrad and had time to shoot the railway strike episode, horsecar, city at night and the strike crackdown on Sadovaya Street.
How does "horsecar" fit in there, either plotwise or syntactically. Are there any scenes with horsecars?
--Thnidu (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  horsecar? 

message: The first paragraph of § Treatment in other works of art contains two long linked lists of films with the linked names of their creators, so tightly packed that they are hard to read and comprehend. I am about to change those to bulleted lists for ease of reading, and adding corresponding linebreaks in the wikicode for ease of editing.
Since this change may be controversial, here is a copy of the paragraph as it now appears:
:The scene is perhaps the best example of Eisenstein's theory on montage, and many films pay homage to the scene, including Terry Gilliam's Brazil, Francis Ford Coppola's The Godfather, Brian De Palma's The Untouchables, George Lucas's Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith, Tibor Takacs's Deathline, Laurel and Hardy's The Music Box, Chandrashekhar Narvekar's Hindi film Tezaab, Shukō Murase's anime Ergo Proxy, The Magic Christian and Johnnie To's Three. Several films spoof it, including Woody Allen's Bananas and Love and Death, Zucker, Abrahams, and Zucker's Naked Gun : The Final Insult (though also a parody of The Untouchables), Soviet-Polish comedy Deja Vu, Jacob Tierney's The Trotsky and the Italian comedy Il secondo tragico Fantozzi. The 2011 October Revolution parade in Moscow featured a homage to the film.
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thread_title:  unreadable lists 

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