Talk:DIY culture

message: The DIY ethic article should be murged into DIY Culture. —This unsigned comment is by Ecto (talk • contribs) 11:27, 15 March 2006.
*Yes a more reasonable merge proposal, I still oppose DIY Culture: refers to a wide range of grassroots political activism, DIY ethic, is broader, not necessarily political activism. --Salix alba (talk) 15:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge DIY Ethic and DIY culture 

message: No. There is a difference between DIY and the culture that surrounds it, and they should have separate articles. The Ungovernable Force 21:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge to DIY? 

message: Do It Yourself culture and activism is based in major part on the DIY ethic. The idea that you can and should do something for yourself is the basis of DIY culture. Consider people like Monte Cazazza and Genesis P. Orridge who, with DIY motivation, launched an entire generation of underground DIY culture.I think DIY Culture should be the main article, and the DIY ethic should be explained inside it as a seperate, but major part of the 'movement'.
Ian Evil 15:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agree 

message: Politics ain't culture, DIY is a movement with the punk scene, not a movement within the culture of political radicalism! Look at Crass: Teh band. Just because their rejection of "middlemen" had the end goal of freeing them to achieve political ends through cultural means doesn't mean that it was a purely political action. Does that make sense? THIS IS A CULTURAL PHENOMENON AND IT MEANS THAT CULTURE IS A MORE DIRECT EXRPRESSION OF THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCE IT THAN ANY MODERN MASS SOCIETY / POP CULTURE IS. This shit is a big deal!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.22.79.251 (talk) 09:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may well be that "This shit is a big deal", but neither article really contains a significant amount of content to necessitate them being separate articles.  If the two articles (DIY culture and DIY ethic) were merged, it would be much easier to explain the differences between the two concepts in a separate section.  From reading both articles, they overlap quite a bit, and come off as fragmented.  As an outsider, if I'm interested in learning about one concept, I will inevitably be interested in learning about the other.  Since both terms are new and not well defined by an outside source, people's personal definitions of each are based largely on hearsay and personal interpretation.  Contributors are bound to add content to the "wrong" article (depending again on personal opinion), or be forced to duplicate it in both.  Moreover, the section within the article DIY on "DIY Subculture" should probably be reduced to a stub that links to this merged article. Verdatum 17:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 

message: I propose making the categories "green vehicle tuning", "microgeneration", "green house construction", "green cooking" and "permaculture". They are to be placed under diy-culture category. Everyone OK and can this be done ? It would be very helpful for gathering information for new (green) diy-projects.
KVDP (talk) 09:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New categories