Talk:Bloom County

message: I've started going through Bloom County books, summarizing each storyline of three or more strips, and building an index.  I think this could be very helpful for people looking for some particular storyline.  I've done so far:
* Loose Tails
* Toons For Our Times
* Penguin Dreams and Stranger Things
* Bloom County Babylon
* Billy and the Boingers Bootleg
* Tales Too Ticklish to Tell
* The Night of the Mary Kay Commandos
Any comments or assistance are welcome.  -- Worrydream 01:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detailed synopses of storylines 

message: In addition to the rewrites I'm planning for Lola Granola and Rosebud the Basselope, I am currently composing an article to be entitled something to the effect of Minor characters in Bloom County. It will have information about unimportant and unessential characters such as Alphonso Ali, Blondie, and Quiche Lorraine, who all disappeared from the strip long before Berke began Outland. Yaz Pistachio will eventually have to be merged with it, of course, but one thing at a time, please. --DXI 09:13, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Follow up: I have finished the page, and I have merged Yaz Pistachio with it. It looks nice and shiny, and I'm proud of it. --DXI 18:03, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor characters 

message: Prior to my edits (sorry, i wasn't logged in) some pro-furry had placed some sneaky stuff into the "topical issues" covered in bloom county section.
The creepy furry bit was where Opus' and Lola Granola's "inter-species relationship" was one of these "topical issues." Let me be very clear: there is nothing topical about having sex with animals. Except, of course, if you're a furry. Anyway, their relationship was more likely a metaphor for inter-racial relationships, or if it wasn't a metaphor, then it certainly wasn't topical.
I then snipped the bit about kids role-playing because the link was to RPGs with structure and the like, not the "playing pretend" that occured in the strip. Not once did a 20-sided die appear in any strip I ever read.
:I don't know about the "role-playing" link, but I distinctly remember a strip in which Opus, as personals editor of the newspaper, took down an ad from a woman seeking a relationship with a "small, flightless waterfoul", or something to that effect. It's in "Bloom County Babylon", IIRC. I have no idea if this was Lola Granola, nor was it "discussed at length." Can someone confirm who or what Lola Granola was? Are there even different races of penguins? jdb ❋ (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: "say what" about my anti-furry edit 

message: Are there different races of penguins? Oddly enough, this comes up in bloom county when one day someone (I think it was milo) tells opus he looks more like a puffin.
My major point of contention, however, was to keep furries from sneaking the implication that fucking animals is somehow a topical matter. I'm far less atached to the term I replaced it with, "inter-racial." I welcome everyone who has a different non-furry interpretation of the lola granola matter to change it as they see fit.
:First of all, penguins and puffins are not even very closely related, as birds go.  That's irrelevant, of course.
:Secondly, I don't think there's a furry conspiracy going on here.  That phrasing had been in the article since its original version, and I've always taken it as a joke, and kind of a clever one.  Since it's been called out now, and this is Wikipedia, it has to go.  The solution, however, is not to claim that the months long, much built-up engagement between Opus and Lola Granola at the height of the strip's popularity, was somehow about inter-racial relationships.  It was funny, because he's a penguin, but he walks around and talks like a person, and everyone accepts it, so when he wants to get married, why shouldn't he marry a person?  We're playing with narrative conventions in comic strips here, not talking about race relations.
:There are moments in Bloom County where species is used as a metaphor for race, for example when Hodge-Podge is upset to learn that Portnoy is a Groundhog.  More often, species is distinguished from race, as when Opus sings "Penguin State of Mind".  Interracial dating comes up when Binkley is in love with Blondie, but it's not "discussed at length".
:I've removed the reference and replaced it with something more clear-cut.GTBacchus 07:23, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but I don't see any evidence than any "furry" has ever had anything to do with this entry, or has advanced any argument about Bloom County having anything to do with furry culture.  I'm sorry, no.  Someone misread a joke as a "furry pushing the idea that BC was promoting bestiality".  In fact, there is no such furry.  The idea that inter-species relationships was a topical issue dealt with in Bloom County was merely silly.  A one-off joke.  Regarding idiots and minutes, on the other hand, you have my agreement.  GTBacchus 18:35, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

text: What the word "furry" refers to is stranger than anything in Bloom County or on this talk page.  It's not bestiality so much as... something very odd.  Spend enough time in the wrong places online, and you begin running into furries, otherkin and all sorts of... well, all sorts. GTBacchus 01:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  penguins and race 

message: I disagree with the decision to restore the original endtime plot info. There isn't enough background information contained in this page for the paragraph to exist and make sense to an outsider (imagine how "Donald Trump in the body of Bill the Cat" sounds to an outsider and you'll see my point). Plus, it just didn't seem to fit after the mention of both spinoff strips, and it didn't flow well with the wording style of the rest of the section. --Dynamite Eleven 23:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it could perhaps be integrated better, but I like the idea of an ending summary that doesn't really give away anything and followed by a more detailed rendition. To be honest, I'm an outsider because I don't know much about Bloom County beyond reading some of the strips, but the detailed ending interested me, and captured some of the unusual action in the strip. --TransUtopian 06:53, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, what I would like to see done with this page is have it turned into a well-detailed and well put together page something like the Calvin and Hobbes page. Such a page would not only be more than able to accomodate detailed Bloom County endtime material like the original, but would also look pretty darn cool. But as the page is at present, the original info just didn't seem to fit with the information already given in the rest of the article above it. --Dynamite Eleven 19:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endtime plot info 

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replies: text: added a FUR addressing WP:NFCC#10c. MURGH disc. 02:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: I think that the article might benefit from a reference to the highly publicized back and forth between Breathed and Trudeau.
Or would that be muckraking? 
Any opinions?
Rampant unicorn (talk) 18:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know nothing of this other than a rumor.  Is there any reliable reference to back up the story? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 03:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The IDW books explained it. Breathed admits having been hugely influenced by Doonesbury on the first months of Bloom County, to say the least (he even uses ther term "thivery"). Encolpe (talk) 03:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feud with G.B. Trudeau 

message: The "other notes" section is a catch-all for unreferenced, sometimes trivial, information that, if sourced, could and should be placed elsewhere.  One prominent example is Breathed's receipt of the Pulitzer Prize, which should be in the lede.  Anyone have any thoughts on this? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other notes 

message: Under the "Notable storylines" section, I think it would be nice to include the one about the "death" of Bill the Cat.  It began in a Sunday strip where Milo Bloom announced that Bill the Cat had died.  Characters shared their memories of him, and at the end of the strip Milo said, "Folks, he died of acne."  Sometime later it was revealed that the "death by acne" story was only a cover-up; Bill was actually in a terrible car accident and his body was never found.  Rumors circulated that he had a drug problem and overdosed (I recall one strip where Opus told a reporter about Bill's secret addiction to "Tender Vittles").  If my memory is correct it was finally revealed that Bill was in rehab at the Betty Ford Clinic.
I would add a section about that storyline myself, but my memories of it aren't entirely clear.  If someone could research it, though, I think it would be a great addition to the article.67.45.109.148 (talk) 16:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the "death" of Bill the Cat? 

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message: Another bit of evidence that Bloom County is in Iowa.  In Outland, 1993 December 12, Steve starts to write a novel, The Bridges of Bloom County, which begins: "Francesco, his arm hair wafting in the Iowa wind, ..." —Tamfang (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  locale 

message: * https://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/13/berkeley-breathed-publishes-first-new-bloom-county-strip-since-1989/
* http://www.npr.org/2015/10/12/447117474/bloom-county-and-opus-the-penguin-return-after-a-25-year-hiatus
* https://www.cnet.com/news/bloom-county-comic-strip-returns-just-in-time/
* http://web.archive.org/web/20150715182350/https://news.yahoo.com/bloom-county-blooms-least-once-25-absence-134539837.html
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thread_title:  Sources about the resurrection of Bloom County 

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