Talk:List of former or dissident Mormons

message: I noticed that the article listed the people included as having "been excommunicated, or no longer profess to be Latter-day Saints" but it did not mention the term resignation. This is a growing method to seperate from the church. 
By simply saying "profess" it seems to imply that they are still members of record instead of the finality of full resignation. It might be better to phrase it as this.
"been excommunicated, resigned, or no longer profess to be Latter-day Saints"
The initial bit implies excommunication is the norm while many resign or were excommunicated when they tried to resign before that option was available. The stigma associated with the term excommunication might be lessened by using the term resignation to balance it...as that is an option
-Gunnerclark 17:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Resignation

message: I propose that a shortened list from Former Latter-day Saints be merged into Ex-Mormon. There is also an "Ex-Mormons" category which can be more all-inclusive. There is really no need for such a "list" article, when all the background info is on "Ex-Mormon" and all the people are in the "Ex-Mormons" category. Any thoughts? Porlob 12:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a growing consensus on Ex-Mormon to not merge, and even I am starting to become less inclined to merge them... But let's leave it up for now to solicit consensus. -Porlob 17:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

text: If the list is not to be merged then Ann Eliza Young needs to be moved into the Ex-Communicated section. RyanNerd (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge into "Ex-Mormon"

message: I don't object to the presence of the criminals category (or text, in the event of a change to a straight-up alphabetical list, as per discussion), but some of the criminals listed don't have any references to the ex-Mormonism.
Ted Bundy's entry says he was Mormon, then converted to Hinduism. I don't seriously object to Mark Hoffman's entry, as his forgeries indicated an extreme skepticism about Mormon origins (though he didn't, as for as I can tell, express direct disbelief in LDS doctrine)...
But the articles about Gary Gilmore, Arthur Gary Bishop, and "Wild Bill" Hickman do not indicate they ever repudiated church beliefs. If they are to be included on this list, we really need an "Excommunicated, but never repudiated faith" section... Although of course it shouldn't be CALLED that. :) Alternatively, changing away from categories to text would solve the probelm too, a method I am beginning to favor.
-Porlob 13:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Criminals

message: I have recently started a thread at Talk:List of notable converts to Christianity#Qualifications for inclusion of "List of former (x)s" in which I am hoping we can standardize the qualifications for inclusion in such lists. Any constructive comments would be more than welcome. John Carter 14:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qualifications for inclusion of "List of former (x)s" 

message: Some of the people on this list were raised as Mormons, but it's not clear that they ever self-identified as adherents of the faith.  If their family left the church or they as minors rebelled against their upbringing, does that count as being a "former Latter Day Saint"?  If their church activity never extended into adulthood were they ever Latter Day Saints to begin with?  Maybe this is more of an issue for younger kids.  Some of these seem problematic to me:
* Amy Adams: family left when 11 years old
* Gutzon Borglum: family left when 4 years old 
* Phil Cunningham (folk musician): left at 15 years old
* Eliza Dushku: left at "a young age" , "teenager" 
* Ryan Gosling: "I grew up Mormon. I wasn't really Mormon, my parents were. 
* Jewel (singer): family left when 7 years old
* Bert McCracken: left as teenager?
* Culbert Olson: atheist at age 10
* Marco Rubio: joined at 8, returned to Catholicism at 11 
* Warren Zevon: as far as I can tell, only his mother was a Mormon
* Butch Cassidy: Mormon parents, left home as teenager.  Inactive by 13?  Baptized? I can't sources about his personal faith or excommunication.
If someone attended the LDS Church as a child, or had LDS parents, I wouldn't call them a "former Latter Day Saint" unless they describe themselves that way.  ——Rich jj (talk) 22:40, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we have a separate list for children who were raised as Mormons or by Mormons, but never practiced into adulthood themselves?  ——Rich jj (talk) 15:28, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children and teenagers 

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message: The page title was problematic. For example, it is not at all unusual for many dissident Mormons who have been excommunicated by the LDS Church to continue to consider themselves of Mormon culture and/or to participate in various fashions within the Latter Day Saint movement. Moved it to an iteration accurately encompassing of list's members without this inaccuracy mentioned.-Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 04:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: I'm not a big Wikipedia editor type person, so I'm sorry if I'm doing anything wrong. Mindy isn't hugely famous, but has a page on Wikipedia. She's come out on her public social media accounts as having left the LDS church, and her most recent album is about her faith crisis.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.186.83 (talk) 00:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Mindy Gledhill? 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians, 
I love this list, and after adding my own "finds" in historical sources, realize some of them have been dropped because they don't meet the criteria.  Would any of you see value in creating a separate list for Inactive Mormons?  Two examples that come to mind are items I added and then re-added after some have deleted them: Merlin Olsen and Brent Scowcroft.  
In both cases it is public knowledge that they were not active for most of their adult lives.  No one can produce any positive evidence that they had any of the markers of an active Mormon, and there is strong evidence to the contrary that is public: Olsen's funeral in a non-Mormon Christian church, and Scowcroft's own admission that he was not active.  
However neither one made a public break with the Church, and yet both lived for all intents and purposes, non-Mormon lives.  Both married non-Mormon spouses and raised their children outside the Church.  I think having an Inactive Mormon category for these types of inactive members would expand the scope of this page, and yet it is accurate as it describes a relevant, widespread cultural phenomenon that I don't see addressed elsewhere on Wikipedia. Jrnilsson (talk) 22:51, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactive Mormons