Talk:1729 (number)

message: (Much of this has been heavily edited by Jorend 16:22, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

message: Currently this page does contains no discussion of either the Hardy-Ramanujan anecdote or the interesting number paradox.  Yet both Hardy-Ramanujan number and interesting number paradox redirect here and are protected.
All known relevant entries:
:1729 (number) (this entry)
:1729 (anecdote)
:Hardy-Ramanujan number
:Hardy Ramanujan number
:interesting and uninteresting numbers
:interesting number paradox
:taxicab number
:1729 (the year; that entry has a link to this mess)
Jorend 16:45, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Current broken status

message: *Need to add reference to "Gardner (1): Martin Gardner, Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions, 1959" when this page gets unprotected. [mooted until organisation issue is resolved]
*Should taxicab numbers be capitalised? Anthony DiPierro 18:25, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  [No.] Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (theorems). -- Toby Bartels 06:04, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No, a link to the entry Richard's paradox makes sense.  -- Jorend 16:48, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text:  [Agree.] --Devinberg (talk) 10:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Enter small suggestions here, while this page is protected

message: Anthony DiPierro added the info about the dullness of 1729 and the external link, and Wik deleted it.  When I asked him why he deleted it, he told me that it was solely because Anthony had added it, and he intended to revert every posting Anthony makes.  When he refused to stop reverting, I protected the page and banned Wik.  Then I unprotected the page.  When Secretlondon unbanned Wik, he came back here and reverted the page again, so I rebanned Wik, and reprotected the page.  RickK 06:09, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Why this page was initially protected

message: I believe that this page should stay, because I like the Ramanujan story. The wording of the current Interesting and Uninteresting Numbers section is good, and it should stay. We might also add some of the other interesting stuff at . — Sverdrup (talk) 21:29, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The Interesting and Uninteresting Numbers section is unrelated to the rest of the article and must be moved elsewhere. It want to edit the part about 1729 but the contentious stuff is getting in the way. -- Arvindn 12:07, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: I have moved the paradox part to interesting number paradox. -- Arvindn 17:42, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: I had moved it to interesting and uninteresting numbers.  But wik is reverting all attempts at changing this page. Anthony DiPierro 17:47, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: So put it on VfD. Also, this would be more than one paragraph if you would let me expand on it. Anthony DiPierro 17:59, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: "an interesting" is POV. I think it's actually rather uninteresting. Other arguments are over whether this tangentially related information should be moved to another article, and whether mention of the tongue-in-cheek proof should be included. See the discussion above.  Most of it is still in dispute.  Or look further at the reversions.  There are many things in dispute. Anthony DiPierro 04:01, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: This page should be unprotected

message: I'm soliciting proposals for the splitting of this page.  Poll will open in one week, if no consensus can be reached and the question is ripe for consideration. During the one week of consideration these proposals may change, sometimes drastically, so be sure any responses are able to stand on their own. Anthony DiPierro 14:25, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It obviously shouldnt be. Solution: Rename the expression the HR number, consolidating the two (three articles).  -SV(talk) 20:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: Charles Matthews took it upon himself to do this, and then he protected the page afterwards.  Anthony DiPierro 20:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for proposals

message: * A proposal is made that this page be split into three.  The anecdote about Interesting and uninteresting numbers will be moved there.  The anecdote about the Hardy-Ramanujan number will be moved there, with a brief parenthetical reference made to it.  The rest stays.  Proposal is for a page similar to .
* I propose that we let the Wikipedians of Wikipedia:WikiProject Numbers worry about this page, and copy whatever content is suitable for other articles to the other articles, making sure to link them to/from this page. Robert Happelberg 16:45, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposals

message: * I oppose the splitting. All of the information seems on topic for this article. Jamesday 06:03, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It obviously shouldnt be. Solution: Rename the expression the HR number, consolidating the two (three articles).  -SV(talk) 20:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: Charles Matthews took it upon himself to do this, and then he protected the page afterwards.  Anthony DiPierro 20:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: es:Mil setecientos veintinueve Numerao 22:06, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Your welcome. Numerao 22:43, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki 

message: :Of course, equating "smallest" with "most negative", as opposed to "closest to zero" gives rise to solutions like -189, -1729, and further negative numbers. This unclearness demonstrates the need to define mathematical terms precisely!
I don't know if its just the exclamation mark, but that last sentence sounded somewhat pov to me, so I edited it. 141.217.41.211 19:19, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed this paragraph completely. It's very strange to equate "smallest" with "most negative". Unless someone has a reference for this paragraph, it's original research. Pburka (talk) 13:05, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Percieved POV 

message: The references to 'Futurama' in this article require clarification for the general reader.
I agree; I don't understand the "SON" thing. Benandorsqueaks 05:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's because in the story of that show, all robots are made by Mom Corp. But I don't watch that show regularly, so I could be wrong. What time does it come on? PrimeFan 18:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's in syndication somewhere.  So far as the SON thing, I can't remember exactly which episode that is, but it fits with how Mom addresses her robots.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 19:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hope this response isn't too long after yours for you to see it, but I thought I'd try. The card is actually for Son #1729, i.e., Bender is the 1729th unit that the particular manufacturing robot (his "mommy") has made. I believe it was David X. Cohen that incorrectly stated that 1729 is Bender's serial number, but it's not, so this is the best explanation I can find. Also, Mom never refers to her robots as "Son", and even if she did, it wouldn't make sense, since the card is from a robot. Additionally, in "The Farnsworth Parabox", one of the universes visited is Universe 1729. Hope I've helped. Buddy13 01:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Futurama

message: While recently trawling "Articles with unsourced statements" I came across this page and was curious so had a look. Firstly I am not a mathamatician, however when I saw this I was struck by the absurdity of it. It it seems self explanatory and therefore does not need citation. 
"It has occasionally been suggested that Hardy's story is apocryphal, on the grounds that he almost certainly would have been familiar with some of these features of the number.[citation needed]"
I would like to hear other thoughts on the matter--Matt 06:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation Needed? 

message: The number 1729 can also be expressed as the sum of the cubes of the four positive numbers 10, 8, 6 and 1. Besides this feature, the number 1729 can be expressed as the sum of the squares of the following three numbers sets : [39, 12, & 8]; [37, 18, & 6]; [33, 24, & 8]; and [30, 27, & 10].  The number 1729 can also be expressed as the sum of the squares of the following four numbers sets : [35, 20, 10, & 2]; [32, 20, 17, & 4]; [32, 20, 16, & 7]; [30, 27, 8, & 6]; [28, 24, 15, & 12]; [27, 24, 18, & 10] and [26, 22, 20, & 13]. --68.193.2.168 (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some more interesting relationships with regard to the number ' 1729. ' 

message: * 
—Sladen (talk) 10:47, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Great llamas of the Bahamas! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:29, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC News cite 

message: I’d like to propose a minor change to the article entry under ‘Other properties’ that begins: “1729 has another mildly interesting property:”, and amend the continuation to: “…the 1729th decimal place of the transcendental number e.The Dullness of 1729 is the beginning of the first consecutive occurrence of all ten digits.”
If this were just a minor grammatical improvement I would just go ahead and do it. However, noting that the entry already refers to ‘decimal place’, I’d like to know if editors agree with me that, despite omitting the expression ‘decimal representation’, there is still no need to add the word ‘decimal’ before the word ‘digits’.--DStanB (talk) 08:57, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar-plus 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 1729, the Hardy-Ramanujan Number, is the smallest number which can be expressed as the sum of two different cubes in two different ways. 1729 is the sum of the cubes of 10 and 9 - a cube of 10 is 1000 and a cube of 9 is 729; adding the two numbers results in 1729. 2409:4056:18D:BCDE:2473:258A:C363:762D (talk) 04:55, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, 1729 (number) already says so. I have reverted your repetition  of this. Things are often stated both in the lead and later but there is no reason to say it twice in the lead. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:26, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why 1729 is special number? 

message: Hi I m aa Gaurav no I'm still on campus for the weekend. 2402:3A80:9CE:9455:C98C:A215:C88:4C4D (talk) 08:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: This page describes 1729 as the "first" taxicab number.  But the dedicated page on taxicab numbers says that 1729 is the second taxicab number.  Because Ta(1)=2.  So you might describe 1729 as the first "non-trivial" taxicab number, but I don't know if that's what a mathematician would say.  Or maybe it was the first of the series to be described in the literature or something.  But there's undoubtedly a factual disagreement between these pages, and I'd guess this one is the one which should be updated. Leopd (talk) 00:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggested wording - calling it the first "nontrivial" taxicab number - is used by one of the sources this article already cites, https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hardy-RamanujanNumber.html. So I think it's fine wording. I agree that calling it the first taxicab number seems to be incorrect per basically everyone's definitions. I'm going to make precisely the edit that you propose, right now. ExplodingCabbage (talk) 13:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistent numbering of taxicab numbers 

message: Hardy ramanujan number 2402:8100:312B:F68F:66E5:53B7:E1F7:B31E (talk) 09:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardy ramanujan number