Talk:Transatlantic relations

message: Things to do:
*History
*Cultural issues
*abortion
*Find a few images
-- Joolz 07:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Things to do

message: In History, the phrase "President Wilson's Fourteen Points helped to redraw the map of Europe. After the war the League of Nations was supposed to create a lasting link across the Atlantic but the United States refused to join" is very poorly written. First, the only point of Wilson's Fourteen that was accepted was the League of Nations--the map of Europe was NOT redrawn by the 14 Points. Second, the Leagues of Nations was created by Wilson, so saying that the United States refused to join seems a bit weasely). It should be mentioned that the U.S. Senate failed to ratify the measure. Third, the goal of the League of Nations was NOT to forge a link across the Atlantic, but instead to foster international peace like the UN. Was the goal of the UN to forge a link between North America and Europe? No, that was the goal of NATO.68.164.0.172 (talk) 00:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead, WP:BE BOLD, and rewrite it. 173.183.190.30 (talk) 08:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Amateurly Written

message: First, is this article about the WHOLE HISTORY of Transatlantic relations, or just current relations?68.164.0.172 (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs More Historical Background

message: The intro sentence formerly read as follows:
:Transatlantic relations are the relations between the United States and countries in Europe on either side of the Atlantic Ocean.
There are countries in Europe on either side of the Atlantic Ocean? Who knew? :) I have fixed the sentence to make it clearer what is actually meant, but I found the way the old sentence was written humorous enough to read that I thought it worth remarking on this talk page. —Lowellian (talk) July 2, 2005 23:31 (UTC)
:It does sound rather silly - I originally wrote it to say "... the United States and countries in Europe, either side of the Atlantic Ocean" but it must've got changed at some point :> -- Joolz 3 July 2005 00:01 (UTC)
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Transatlantic relations do not only exist since the Second World War and surely didnt have to "extend" into Continental Europe! The UK has a special status in transatlantic relations but it is not the beating core of relations!
:But I suppose France and Germany are at the "core of relations"?68.164.0.172 (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Who describes US policies as being unilateral, etc.? Obama isn't still pursuing the unilateral policies of Bush (who was much less unilateral than the uninformed public thinks). Why mention the US death penalty? Why not mention European differences over making it illegal for muslim women to wear headscarves (the US doesn't do that), or mention how some European governments retain the right to outlaw certain political parties (which the US doesn't have). Did the EU have a multilateral approach when it came to getting UN approval to intervene in Yugoslavia? Nope. Did France get approval to retaliate against Ivory Coast by destroying their entire air force last year (2008)? Nope. Perhaps we can have a paragraph pertaining to the myth Europeans have that they support multilateralism when, like the US, they clearly choose unilateralism when it serves them. And as for Middle East peace, the US and EU views are in sync now, so perhaps that should be corrected.68.164.0.172 (talk) 00:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Humorous intro sentence

message: The article blithely states that both Boeing and Airbus recieve subsidies.   Boeing does not recieve subsidies.   I'd really like to see a citation for these subsidies.   In the meantime I'm going to change the wording to reflect that both companies are *accused* of bennefiting from subsidies which is certainly true.
Zebulin 16:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boeing subsidies?

message: That is NOT what the picture is representing. The structures on Europ Banknotes are meant to represent European achievements, not crossing the atlantic. Zazaban 05:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  They all have building of some type. That's it.  Not other secret message. Kevlar67 02:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Transatlantic bridge"

message: I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains a fair amount of detail and organization, although it requires expansion and referencing. I have assessed this as mid importance, as I feel most readers would have general, though not specific, knowledge of the topic and it is broad in coverage. Cheers, CP 02:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: "The U.S. government is not allowed to join the ICC without amending the US Constitution."
Not true. Or, even if it were true, a highly controversial constitutional question that shouldn't be treated as a fact. Removed. 99.178.185.216 (talk) 12:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed line