Talk:List of Scrubs episodes

message: I added the song "Sabrosa by The Beastie Boys to this episode. It plays when Heather Locklear furst enters the hospital.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.213.130.30 (talk) 12:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  My first step 

message: Although there are continuous rumors about the show entering a new season and being transferred to ABC, I couldn't find a single reliable sources confirming any of these claims. So I'd say we wait for a proper announcement before starting a new section. LeaveSleaves (talk) 01:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. Sceptre (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 8 

message: It's worth noting that:
# WP:EPISODE is a guideline not a policy.  WP:FICT is a proposed policy that isn't yet accepted.
# More popular TV shows tend to have articles for each episode, even when there's not real third party sourcing (IMDB, TVGuide, etc. excluded)
# Including these pages allows for more information.
Is there really a broad consensus to leave these episodes as redirects?  Where do editors stand on this? Oren0 (talk) 00:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are very mistaken about Scrubs being the only show being targeted; it only seems this way because many others already have been merged a long time ago. WP:USEFUL is also not a good reason to keep or delete an article. A phonebook on wikipedia would be very useful, but that's not what wikipedia is for. Neither are plot-only articles. – sgeureka t•c 06:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there consensus on not keeping episode articles? 

message: I was looking at the banner that includes notable episodes such as My First Day and My Musical etc. I was thinking the last episode My Dumb Luck since it is the episode Dr Kelso retires. Thanks (Eyehawk78 (talk) 14:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Dumb Luck, Notable episode? 

message: In the plot synopsis, it says:
Elliot demands single-sex change rooms from Dr. Kelso as it's becoming increasingly embarrassing changing in the traditional mixed-sex rooms.
I just watched 2x13.
The one where Turk is sitting on his bed holding a red pillow at the start?
Either my episodes have a numbering problem, or these do, or there's a vandal.
Or I'm wrong. That would be fine too. Miyoka (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My Philosophy does contain the storyline given in the article along with Turk's efforts to propose Carla. It's the following episode which starts with the scene you mentioned. LeaveSleaves (talk) 00:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in My Philosophy in season 2? 

message: In this episode Carla's brother Marco makes an appearance.  The actor is Freddy Rodriguez.  He has done some notable work.  Someone should edit him into the episode article and the same for any other episodes he appears in.  --ShadowCrew (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 52 "My Advice to You" 

message: Today when I came over to wikipedia to find out about a Scrubs episode I had watched I was disappointed to find the article deleted, so I read some of this discussion and had a few questions/points:
* The suggestion to put TV episode articles on wikia has the problem that it is a different site. On of my favourite things to do on wikipedia is to start reading one article and by clicking the hyperlinks end up reading about a totally different topic. There will be much less interlinking on a separate site.
* Is the desire to delete articles based on conserving server resources or wanting to only include deserving articles? If the former, I would be interested to know what proportion of storage is spent on article content, and how much on all these pointless discussions about wikipedia rules ;-). If the latter doesn't the fact that wikipedia is an online encyclopedia with hyperlinks mean if you don't want to read such content it doesn't get in the way as it would with a book?
* I agree with those who say the redirects make it hard to find/improve the deleted articles, thanks to Jac16888 for saying how to find them!  
* Now that the list of episodes page includes music I think it is too long. How could we solve this problem? Articles for each episode detailing amongst other things the music!
Uberdude85 (talk) 22:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yet another whine about deletion 

message: When Janitor is making up articles for his newsletter, Cox asks why Janitor is going after him.  Janitor says its because Cox called him stupid, and that he's been called alot of things, including "Josh" in the short list of three, also stating that "each of which is true in its own right".  So the line about Janitor's name not being revealed is wrong, it was, his name is Josh. ~~CuCullin  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.0.106.172 (talk) 00:52, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no evidence to support that he was in fact saying that his name was Josh.  He only said that he was called Josh...  or how about J.O.S.H. (Janitor of Sacred Heart) - possibly just another way the Scrubs writers are having fun with its hardcore fan base. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

text: And the Janitor is an habitual liar. Sceptre (talk) 12:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I remember reading Lawrence saying that when we heard the Janitor's real name that would definitely be the end of the show and since the show is still going on then Josh is most probably not his name --Davidbhoy2805 (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Janitor's Name Was Revealed 

message: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alaskan assassin (talk • contribs) 20:16, 29 July 2008
:What's your point?? LeaveSleaves (talk) 20:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article mentioned on Blogspot 

message: NBC aired an episode of season 7 out of order. My Princess, continuity-wise, belongs between My Manhood and My Dumb Luck, regardless of NBC's dumbass decisions to air them out of order.  —Preceding ThomasSixten comment added by 128.173.235.230 (talk) 00:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the list of episodes that are arranged as they were aired, not as they were intended to be aired. The production code indicates the actual intended order. You can see another example of such a situation in season 6 for Episode 11, My Night to Remember, which was aired out of order. LeaveSleaves talk 01:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Princess needs to be moved up 

message: The episode MY Princess states that its not in continuity? The episode was just played out of order. Theres nothing wrong about it that I can see. Thefro552 (talk) 01:13, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Kelso was still chief of medicine in My Princess, despite retiring two episodes before--Jac16888 (talk) 01:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not in continuity 

message: The article is presently 122kb in size. Looking forward to information from another season with songs details and all that, I have no doubt that the article would reach somewhere near 140kb by the end of the season. I think we should consider splitting article into separate season articles. This would remove majority of information regarding episode description, credits, song information etc. into individual season article, thus reducing the load on a single article. I have created a rough skeleton of upcoming season eight which can be seen here. If such a split can be agreed upon, I propose we finish the split before the premiere of upcoming season. LeaveSleaves talk 19:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would urge everyone not to deviate this discussion towards episode articles. My primary reason for bringing up this issue is unreadability and huge size of this particular article. My insistence on early beginning of split process, possibly before upcoming season, is to avoid further clamoring of information which would unfavorably increase the article size, which is already beyond limit. As is practice with most of TV shows, individual season articles can provide necessary help to create readable and focused articles. Furthermore, this significantly eases the task of creating featured content. LeaveSleaves talk 15:12, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Support proposal by EusebeusThat works for me, this article clearly isn't going to be complete until the end of the series, and until that time we won't know what we're looking at length-wise. Yes, we can estimate, but crystalballing ourselves is little more productive than any other case of WP:CRYSTAL. Split if/when there is a need to split. Simple! Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read WP:SIZE it clearly indicates that the article is way beyond suggested article size limits. There is a serious need to split. And saying that the article would reach a certain size after particular period of time based on well known information is not crystalballing but a common sense estimation. Plus the split I'm suggesting is virtually a standard practice for many TV series at the moment. It is nothing particularly radical. LeaveSleaves talk 03:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: The song that plays in episode 1 season 8 is "I wanna be your man" by endeverafter. just thought someone could change it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.208.167 (talk) 06:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone wants to update it for me, On the episode "Their Story II" The song playing at the ending of the episode is by Rogue Wave entitled "Chicago X 12"--Noliebro (talk) 17:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. LeaveSleaves 17:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Music on Season 8

message: Considering the page contains snippets of the episodes' storylines, I feel like season 8 delves too far in without offering any real alert for spoilers. I know it's assumed, but I think there should either be a formal warning for the section, names shouldn't be dropped, or else remove the snippets for unaired episodes until such a time that they've aired. --Snojoe (talk) 04:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:SPOILER. Plus also note that the storylines for unaired episodes are obtained from releases by ABC. So it is not like we are revealing anything exclusive. LeaveSleaves 05:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 8 spoiler(s) 

message: In My lawyers in love did dr cox fire ed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.177.141 (talk) 03:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ed fired? 

message: A few days ago or maybe a week ago I checked, and it had in the season 8 section the next two episodes. I checked today (February 13, 2009) and it had practically the rest of the season's episodes (I also checked the Scrubs Wiki and they said the same thing)! But there were no links on the episodes indicating where they came from...so if anyone could maybe find out this highly valuable piece of information...you could either contact me here at my talk page or at the article talk page (it'll be on my watchlist). I thank anyone for taking the time to do this. With much gratitude, WM2 21:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you looking for the origin for an unsourced and unsubstantiated information? Because such information floats around those spoiler-related websites and can't really be traced. And how is this "highly valuable"? LeaveSleaves 23:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Second questions first, it is highly valuable because I am a HUGE Scrubs fan and I must know this information. First questions second, I guess it doesn't really matter anymore because someone deleted the (possibly) upcoming episodes, which puts me at ease. So thank you whoever did this!:-)  Sincerely, WM2 16:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question About Season 8 Episodes 

message: I'm a bit unsure why we've got some episodes as blue links and not others.  I've been looking at those that seem to have major plot points and just restored one (which was reverted).  I'm not finding specific discussion on the topic and it looks like the work of one user.  Thoughts? Hobit (talk) 02:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Boss's Free Haircut and other episodes 

message: In Episode 107, Living Life is listed as by Eels. It is originally by Daniel Johnston. Should this be by Daniel Johnston performed by Eels, or is that only used to denote a character performing a song?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.116.65 (talk) 19:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 107 Music 

message: As I have previously indicated to you, first at the beginning of this discussion five long weeks ago, episodes tables refer to original airdates. It doesn't need to be explicitly stated because it's implicit in  due to the inclusion of . However, if you look at various articles you will see that the episode numbers used are the episode numbers as aired and you can see that by referring to reliable TV guides such as TV Guide or MSN. As I've also indicated to you, an encyclopaedia needs to be consistent. This consistency doesn't just extend to consistency between articles, as was your misunderstanding, the articles themselves need to be consistent. When you include an original airdate, the episode number should reflect the original airdate too, or there is no consistency. This is just plain commonsense. You previously mentioned a number of TV programs with two episode numbers for finales that aired as one episode. Airing as one episode doesn't necessarily mean that they originally aired with a single episode number. There are no citations in the articles supporting a single episode number for the programs you mentioned, except for Grey's Anantomy, Why the single episode number isn't used is best discussed at Talk:List of Grey's Anatomy episodes. In this article we have a citation from a reliable source (the program's creator) and to this day that citation shows the episode that aired was episode 18, not 18-19, so that's what we should be using for both accuracy and consistency and since it's verifiable. Regarding your final comment "And you seem to be the only person who wants to keep it the way it is as no one else has come in to support what you are saying either therefore that comment is moot", this is wrong. Silence implies consensus that the article remains as it is. Anybody can edit an article and nobody, other than you, has tried changing the episode numbers. If they had, this would indicate that there is opposition to keeping the numbers as they are but failure of anyone to change the article(s) implies that the community is happy to leave the article as is, with the correct episode numbers. This has been the case since well before this discussion. All of this aside, in the absence of a clear consensus one way or another, the status quo reigns. This means that unless there is significant support to change from the cited episode number, the article remains as it is. --AussieLegend (talk) 13:12, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbitrary section break 

message: On Scrubs Wikia it has two special episodes from season 2 and 7, can't we include those?--69.72.86.244 (talk) 01:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Special Episodes

message: What is "Keep Talking" in table's header? Explanation or definition is required.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gritskevich (talk • contribs) 18:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added only recently, but I have no idea what it is either. --AussieLegend (talk) 00:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It refers to the featurettes found on the DVDs. Most of the DVDs have a featurette called [actor name] Keeps Talking..., where the actor talks about their character. It should definitely be removed from the table. Though, a DVD section should added to this page. Drovethrughosts (talk) 23:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table of seasons 

message: I feel that there should be a section for each episode stating the number of viewers (in millions) that wacthed that episode. --Mr. Chicago (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Viewers per episode

message: The purpose of the Table of Contents is to provide easy navigation to this lengthy page. This function is not met by the table of seasons.ThomasSixten (talk) 12:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What doesn't the table provide that a TOC does? --AussieLegend (talk) 12:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

text: The seasons are listed down the left and and clearly linked and there are links to the References and External links section. All of the information in the TOC is in the table in pretty much the same format, with the exception that the References and External links are in bold in the centre. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree with Thomas, this page needs a toc, using the season table is against the norm people are used to (even I keep looking for the TOC for a few seconds) and if you don't know to look for them, its easy to miss that the numbers are links.--Jac16888Talk 20:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

text: The TOC in this article is redundant so there's no need for it at all. The table in the article has been altered to make it even easier to navigate as a result of your concerns. Inclusion of a TOC is not mandated, nor is its position in an article. However, as a compromise we've added it to the right. You are correct in saying "arbitrarily .... changing it's position is pointless and counterproductive". Therefore, please stop doing that. As I indicated to you in the discussion on my talk page that you initiated, it's edit warring. --AussieLegend (talk) 10:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Table of Contents

message: While fixing some references I discovered several errors in the season 9 table. These included, but were not limited to  instead of , hashes in front of the LineColor codes that prevented the lines from displaying etc. After fixing these I checked Scrubs (season 9) to see if it contained the same errors and found that it did, so I copied the table from here to there. However, having identical tables in two different locations is unnecessary duplication so I've boldly transcluded the lists. This means that it is now only necessary to edit the list at Scrubs (season 9)#Episodes and the changes will be automatically duplicated here. This is consistent with other season articles and :Template:Episode list#Sublists. Noticing similar issues with the season 8 table, I've done the same for season 8. A benefit of this is that this article has been reduced in size by ~15KB. However, this article is still 115KB, which is large. Wikipedia:Article size recommends consideration be given to splitting articles >40KB and recommends that an article this size "almost certainly should be divided". As there are already articles for seasons 8 and 9 I don't see an issue with splitting out seasons 1-7 but I thought I'd seek consensus before doing so. --AussieLegend (talk) 01:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting the article 

message: I think it's a good idea to label which episodes were "supersized" aka episodes that run longer than the usual 21-22 minutes, as there's nothing in this article or the general Scrubs article that makes mention of them. I came across a set of in-depth Scrubs DVD reviews here which list the episode length for each episode, so I was able to check which were "supersized", this is what I got:
Season 1: "My Bed Banter & Beyond" (28:16)
Season 2: "My First Step" (25:28) and "His Story" (28:05)
Season 3: "My Lucky Night" (26:48), "My Catalyst" (26:18) and "My Porcelain God" (26:18)
Season 4: "My Old Friend's New Friend" (24:35)
Season 6: "My Long Goodbye" (25:32) and "My Conventional Wisdom" (25:36)
Basically label them the same way the List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes article does them. We could also label "My Finale" as an hour-long episode. Drovethrughosts (talk) 16:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supersized Episodes 

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