Talk:Kawasaki W650

message: This thing needs a serious rewrite.  As it is, it sounds like one bloke talking to another over a pint at the pub. Respectfully, SamBlob 00:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: July 2007

message: I have routinely replaced "featured" with "had" in almost any motorcycle article, and I disagree with this edit saying an OHV pushrod engine was a "feature", along with the existing text saying the "W650 features a shaft-driven bevel-gear overhead camshaft." Feature should be replaced with had. The reasons why are covered in WP:Editorializing.<P>There is virtually no technical characteristic that is unequivocally a "feature". When you put in a higher performance valve train, you might be trading off lower reliability, or complexity and higher maintenance cost. It might mean parts are harder to source. If nothing else, the bike will cost more. Better performance at higher cost is not a feature, it is a trade off. Some new technologies are very troublesome when first introduced, only to become industry standards in a few years. Calling them "features" when riders are cursing their existence is the job of the bike's marketing department, not Wikipedia editors.<P>In short, please stick with "had" or "used" (not utilized!) or another neutral term. Let the reader decide if they think the bike is better with this or that "feature". Opinions on whether a device is an improvement should be attributed to an authoritative source -- and such opinions are a welcome improvement to an article, but make clear they come from the mouth of the expert, not the article editor. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 05:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Had is neutral. Featured is editorializing 

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