Talk:Léon Blum

message: He did not believe that socialism could be achieved by parliamentary means.
Support for this? john 04:55, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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message: I see that on 8 April an anonymous contributor removed the first two paras of this entry.   But I've been unable to understand why.   They look like a couple of pretty inoffensive paras on Blum's early life translated from the French wiki article.   I was wondering whether their removal was (1) part of some great discussion taking place .... somewhere, or (2) a simple mistake.   Or?
If no one has a better idea, I am minded to reinstate those paras, but I am not particularly up to speed with the history of this entry (nor with the life and times of Leon Blum) and I don't want to cut across something that might be a well considered adjustment by a well informed expert. 
Any thoughts?   Regards Charles01 (talk) 12:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unattributable edit

message: pas si sur
il avait des connaissances mais etait trop faible pour s'opposer a l'allemagne
ceci le rendrait encore respectable .
la polemique est la 
leon blum etait il faible ou irresponsable
est il vraiement le heros martyre  que l'on venere ou bien une personne aboulique 
en tout cas il a echappe a la mort de part la veneration des nazis pour les rois d'europe
le film triple agent d'eric rohmer montre bien la naivete coupable de leon blum prechant la paix  
se prenant pour jaures et les elections funambulesques qui conduisirent au desastre
je pense que la faiblesse de leon blum a sa part de responsabilite dans la shoah
alors pourquoi maintient t'on a tout prix  cette image  et glorifie t'on cette faiblesse  comme on glorifie aussi les lady di ou les nicole kidman.
n'est ce pas abuser le peuple
combien ont pese les diplomes universitaires de mr blum devant les discours simplistes des nazis
les masses sont elles restees si stupides qu'elles elisent encore des imbeciles comme berlusconi 
messala n'a pas toujours tort et finalement leon blum restera toujours le faible qui a laisse entrer les loups dans la bergerie
est ce pour cacher cette faiblesse dont ils auraient en quelque sorte honte que les francais elisent des segolene royal ou des chirac ou leur rejeton sarkosy
et tant pis si ce sont les autres qui payent1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thierryjean (talk • contribs) 08:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  lein blum etait il vraiement un dreyfus 

message: One of the noted individuals in The Blum Administrated was Jules S. Moch. Given the nickname "Cousin Jules", because of his close association to Blum at one time as his Personal Secretary, and married to Blum's cousin, Germaine Picard. Moch would become a supportive associate in his various appointments and elected positions, during and after Blum left office.Aedwardmoch (talk) 20:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cousin Jules" 

message: Of the many noted people he would meet in his early years, it was written in a biography on Leon Blum, when he was about eight years old, he and his fellow classmates were invited to the eightieth birthday party of Famous French Patriot and writer, Victor Hugo. It was at this event that Mr. Hugo became so impressed by the young Leon for his reciting-writing a birthday poem in his behalf. Hugo said that the young man 'he (Blum) would go far... and become a person of importance'. Years later, as a reporter-writer, Leon Blum would encounter and become good friends with music-composer, Claude Debussy. Aedwardmoch (talk) 21:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victor Hugo and Claude DeBussy 

message: Can this be described? Better food or not, etc.?--Jrm2007 (talk) 20:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Existence within Concentration Camp 

message: The statement "an object of particular hatred to the Catholic and anti-Semitic right" is correct but very tendentiously phrased. Most of those wxho voted for Blum were Catholics, given the overwhelming Catholic majority in France at the time it would have been impossible for him to be elected otherwise. Also the right in France was and is still also Protestent (as well as agnostic). Nor was everyone who was conservative antisemitic. Far from it. A correct phrasing would be "an object of particular hatred to those of the right who were anti-Semitic." Tessalonika (talk) 09:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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message: The first sentence in the second paragraph makes a number of unsourced statements. The claim that Blum was an avid reader of nationalist ideas is not sourced. We are then told that he had little interest in politics at the same time. These two are almost contradictory. A effort is being made to depict Blum as a convert to his later ideas, probably by Blum himself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.69.11 (talk) 12:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No source 

message: The following edit from 04:18, 1 August 2015 (diff) contains an egregious error which rewrites the history of World War II:  
Those who participated in the Battle of Britain will be surprised by this statement.
I've made a three-word change to fix it, but what can possibly be the explanation for this edit?  You don't seem like a vandal, because your other edits from  09:12, 25 May 2015‎ to 04:36, 1 August 2015 (I didn't check all of them) generally seem like good faith attempts to improve the article.  Mathglot (talk) 03:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The British Army was decisively defeated. Rjensen (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you were driving at now; the British Army (BEF) yes, but not Britain.  The problem was the misleading parallelism—the previous wording makes it sound like Britain was knocked out of the war in 1940.  "Defeating France" resulted in France surrendering to German occupation and military rule.  "Defeating Britain" never happened; "Defeating the British army" resulted in them licking their wounds and retreating home to fight another day, and, eventually, win.  Phrasing that as "defeating both Britain and France" is misleading. Mathglot (talk) 08:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: it's fixed.  People who did not know that should not be reading this advanced article. Rjensen (talk) 08:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just not how WP works.  You could have high school or college students reading it, and it's best to be explicit; in any case, it's not our place as editors to say who "shouldn't" be reading it.  Here's an amusing short man-in-the-street survey from some students at Texas Tech about general historical knowledge, which may amuse, appall, or alarm you: http://www.npr.org/sections/theprotojournalist/2014/11/18/364675234/who-won-the-civil-war-tough-question.  That's basically why we have to be explicit when wording sentences that might make it sound like Germany defeated Britain, to some people. Mathglot (talk) 09:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Advanced articles like this one deal with highly specialized topics, and we can use more sophisticated language, & discuss more complex relationships. Really bright high school students can handle it. Reading it over again, I think this article handles advanced material at a reasonably clear level. there is no need to degrade it to make it simplified for people who do not know who is the Vice President of the United States. There already is a simplistic Wikipedia in English. Rjensen (talk) 09:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany defeats Britain in 1940 

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message: The second Government, 1938, and its collapse
"The government cooperated with Britain and declared war on Germany when it invaded Poland in September 1939."
Probably should read something like:
Blum's government was succeeded by a government headed by Blum's deputy, Édouard Daladier, who cooperated with Britain and declared war on Nazi Germany when Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939.
Geo8rge (talk) 20:03, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think this sentence from the article is incorrect.