Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business/Archive 2

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SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold standard FAR

message: Would it be possible to create a template that converts currency based on the current exchange rates? There are cases where authors want to translate from one currency to another for comparison purposes. See for example Centurion_Card#Availability_&_Cost.
Currently authors convert the currency at the exchange rate on the day they write. This can very quickly become highly inaccurate, however.
Are we able to create a template that uses external information (like www.xe.com/ucc)?
Here is one proposed format for the template:

{{FX
| from_amount = 
| from_currency = 
| to_currency = 
| date = 
}}

with "date" being an optional parameter, used if you wanted the exchange rate on a particular date -- for instance "XYZ corp was acquired for SG$xxx million (US$yyy million) in 2001". If the parameter wasn't specified, the template would use today's exchange rate.
Is this possible?
--Crocodile Punter 01:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency conversion template? 

message: Is there a style guide/advisory note for graphs? From my experience most economics articles have a graph of a different style from most others, or indeed several graphs of a different style within one article. Now there is nothing inherently wrong with any of them, but the resulting fragmented appearance across economics and business article is far from ideal. Might a solution be to choose an application (probably Excel) and list the preferred font, font size, line width, keys etc. Mark83 20:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style guides (graphs) 

message: If anyone around here is looking for a cleanup assignment, I just stumbled onto the pretty awful article Joint audit. I have absolutlely no relevant knowledge in the area but maybe someone around here can help. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson 19:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done a basic cleanup. Thanks for pointing it out! --SueHay 18:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup request 

message: The economics articles throughout Wikipedia are a frustrating mess.  POV and conspiracy theories everywhere.  Amazing.
Nothing constructive to say, I'm afraid.  Just venting.  I'll (continue to) help where (I think) I can.  --Jorend 21:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. And sorry to say this but at a glance "WikiProject Business and Economics" seems to be inactive to me. Mark83 21:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hah - I just came across to say the same thing - I've been looking at some business articles, even being polite - many are pretty shocking - a mixture of guide, self-help book and whatever management fad that has come down the pike. Maybe we could wake this wikiproject up?  --Fredrick day 11:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frustration 

message: On Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Question about corporate mergers I asked a question about how a merger can be undone three years later. If anyone here could shed light (please reply there), it would be most appreciated. Thank you. --NE2 01:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question about undoing of mergers

message: The name for the article Supply and demand, recently moved from Law of supply and demand, is under discussion at Talk:Supply and demand#Moved. Also, a straw poll is being taken at Talk:Supply and demand#Title of page. Please contribute your opinion. Λυδαcιτγ 22:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name for (law of) supply and demand 

message: I have collected a (mixed) list of potential subjects and tried to find any relevant redirects, but could anyone have a look at this list of missing topics? - Skysmith 12:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential missing topics 

message: Just as a query - why do we have a Wikiproject Business and economics rather than a Wikiproject Business and a wikiproject economics? As a brit, we tend to look at those as two seperate areas (but with significant overlap of course). --Fredrick day 13:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been wondering about that too and I think it would be a good idea to split the project, theoretically. On the other hand the project is small and I am not sure either project would attract enough people yet. What do other users think?--Grace E. Dougle 18:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I've also been thinking about this for a while, and it would probably be a good idea to get some kind of separation. Generally people who are into economics (as in academic economics) would be less interested in bussiness and the reverse applies. I can't really see people interested both in Cox-Ingersoll-Ross and in Donald Trump. For instance, I'm very interested in theoretical economics but I don't care much about bussiness. This split focus is probably pushing people away from the project rather than draw them in, IMO.AdamSmithee 12:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - two separate projects would do a better job in bringing together people with common interests. JQ 05:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I would also support a split.  Bracketing business and economics together is an old-fashioned mid-20th century practice that reflects a world when there was little business literature.  Even in the 1960s, when the two great business schools (Manchester and LBS) were founded in England, the prestige jobs went to economists (micro and macro, but particularly macro).  Now economics has been crowded out in the business studies curriculum by so many new subjects. Thegn 06:50, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This sounds like a good plan to me. Can we just implement this unilaterally, or is there some sort of procedure to go through? I might sign up for wikipedia:WikiProject Finance also.JQ 23:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A project can be started any time in this format: Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics. There is a lengthy guideline with some good tips here. But there is no official procedure.--Grace E. Dougle 17:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As an outsider of this project, I would suggest keeping a banner project,and developing taskforces for the seperate 'disciplines'. Being a small project to begin with does not help necessarily. My suggestion would be to start a page for business article co-ordination at Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics - business taskforce and for economics at Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics - economics taskforce. The advantage come in maintaining your :Template:WikiProject Business & Economics banner for talkpages. The same banner can be used for both, with some parameters added so that categorization of subpages can be made at the same time. As an example WP:AUS has implemented this successfully, and being a part of that project I can say it works well. Just my outsiders perspective. Cheers. SauliH 21:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Split into Business and Economics Projects

message: FYI, :Category:Adam Smith is up for deletion at WP:CFD. 132.205.44.134 00:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adam Smith 

message: A bot has placed tags on many (all?) business and economics article, so we can start grading them according to importance :category:Unassessed-importance business and economics articles and quality :Category:Unassessed-Class business and economics articles.--Grace E. Dougle 15:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well join the assessment task force, and start assessing :). See main project page for more details. --Parker007 17:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating articles

message: Hi, for some reason User:Alphachimpbot added the WikiProject Business & Economics template to at least two articles on beer styles which aren't business-related as far as I can tell...what's the reasoning for this? --Stlemur 10:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it has added everything marked as brewery-related to this project, because some of these are company-stubs. --Grace E. Dougle 11:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. We'll keep an eye out. --Stlemur 12:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If its not company related remove the template. I asked the bot to tag all company stubs witht the template. --Parker007 19:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still doing it (Maris Otter). The template categorizes includes both beer-related and brewery-related articles; the template is definitely relevant and should stay. --Stlemur 20:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "bot to tag all articles in the :Category:Company_stubs and the within sub categories with the template: ." That's what I asked. --Parker007 20:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Beer and brewery stubs was listed as a sub category of :Category:Company stubs. Removed the subcategorization. --Parker007 20:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This happened days ago, so the bot must have already tagged many articles in category :Category:Beer and brewery stubs and they need to be sorted out by hand. So — if someone is interested in beer this should be fun...--Grace E. Dougle 21:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed the tag from all of the motorcycle articles and actively removed them from the bot's list. My understanding was that beer and breweries were related to business and economics (hence the tagging). alphachimp 18:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot addition of [[Winter warmer]] and [[Wiess]] 

message: FOr some reason, there are a ton of articles on Louisiana politicians tagged as business. I've been removing them as I come across them, but there are a lot. Is there a quick fix?akronpow 15:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the bot will fix it now :). --Parker007 03:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to weed out all of the subcats that were badly marked, but I could have missed some. Can you link me to the subcat? (I'll do some deleting.) alphachimp 06:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louisiana politicians included? 

message: Not sure if this is the right WikiProject for this or not... This article is in serious need of cleanup. There's a new editor that's doing his/her best to make a good article, but there are many WP:MOS problems such as lists that need to be turned into prose, excessive use of the forward slash ("and/or"), and awkward paragraphs and organization. I also have Corporate social responsibility, Corporate governance, and Franchising on my watchlist and I'll be removing them to focus on other projects. If someone could put those on their watchlist to keep away the linkspam, that'd be great! I was also going to delist Cooperative as a GA because of the intermixed usage of "cooperative" and "co-operative" (both are correct, but the article should be consistent, as should all of the associated articles so linking between them is easier or redirects are needed). Thanks! --Rkitko 19:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Compliance and ethics program]] 

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Gzkn 02:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR for [[London congestion charge]] 

message: I can understand this project tagging the talk pages of articles on corporations and companies, specifically aircraft manufacturers, but why is the project tagging individual aircraft model articles, such as Spectrum S-33 Independence and Spectrum S-40 Freedom? Such articles are typically put in the care of Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft. Akradecki 14:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It can be part of 2 wikiprojects many articles are like that. Besides these are business articles. part of Aeronautical company stubs. Peace. --Parker007 02:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't make sense to tag them as business and economics, since any expertise for writing the articles will come from knowledge of aircraft. --NE2 03:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it doesn't make sense to tag the aircraft models for business and econ.  We can't review every company product from a financial standpoint, and as NE2 says, we don't have the expertise. -- SueHay 22:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - the actual planes are for an entirely different project - the impact of those planes on the marketplace or the manufacturing organisations is for us. --Fredrick day 22:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sigh! Just contact  to tell him to remove tags from another sub category again. You guys are making me look like an idiot. --Parker007 22:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've left a note asking  to do this. I'm not sure if you wanted someone else to contact Alphachimp, but I went ahead and did it.  Very sorry if I've overstepped.  Hope it's okay. --SueHay 00:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou Sue. I was not intending on contacting Alphachimp, I wanted someone else to contact him,  because I made the original request. --Parker007 01:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very glad to hear that's okay!  I don't have an answer back from him right now, but I'll follow up. P.S. you're NOT an idiot so don't talk such foolishness. -- SueHay 02:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  asked me what category was causing this, and I can't find the category.  I thought it was Business aircraft, but that doesn't seem to be it. Does anyone know what category is tagging those aircraft model articles? -- SueHay 21:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Aeronautical company stubs --Parker007 23:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at :Category:Aeronautical company stubs.  I didn't check them all, but they seem to be companies, not specific aircraft models.  Do you think some aircraft models slipped into that category but now have been corrected?  -- SueHay 23:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yup if you see the history of the above mentioned articles they were listed in that category, but now someone removed it. --Parker007 00:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I vote yes. Problem Solved. Maybe if some one else has any other comments make them or now, or forever hold your peace. --Parker007 02:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags on aircraft articles?

message: Hi. I stumbled on the article Business economics. It was a poorly formatted brochure for a Business economics program in Delhi which I deleted and , since I know nothing about economics, I replaced by a pretty awful stub. I'd be grateful if someone from the project could make it into a more decent stub (or decide that it makes most sense to simply redirect the page somewhere else. Since there is a :Category:Business economics maybe some short article might be a good idea though. Thanks for your help. Pascal.Tesson 19:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Business economics 

message: What's making a bunch of articles suddenly appear on the unrated list? It's not showing on the count yet, but something is adding a LOT more articles. --SueHay 01:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Parker007 used AWB to add your project's banner to several talk pages.  During his last run with AWB, he tagged Primatech, a fictional company from the TV show Heroes.  I am removing the banner for now; if someone wants to add it back (without going on an AWB-spree) then that's fine. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 18:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sheesh I removed all tags from category Fictional companies. I assumed it was part of our project! --Parker007 21:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New unrated business and economics articles

message: Participants of assessing please feel free to suggest some important articles you have come across here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Business_and_Economics#Collaboration_of_the_Month_.28Beta_version.29. --Parker007 22:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration of the month (beta version)