Talk:The Parting of the Ways

message: This episode will no doubt be changed with Eccleston's desire to leave the series.
The problem with the series as a whole is that it does not travel beyond Earth and orbiting artificial space stations.
:From comments made by Russell T Davies, I understand that Christopher Eccleston had only ever agreed to do one series from the start, so Davies knew this going in, and in fact made the Doctor's departure at the end of the series one of the features of the ongoing story arc - I expect some kind of surprise or twist to be revealed in the Bad Wolf episode.
:As to the second point, this again has been addressed by comments of Davies in interviews - he feels that basing everything on or around Earth makes it all harder hitting and closer to home for his audience  (it's been tried before - note the UNIT years with the 3rd doctor, which was something of a reaction to the monster years of later Troughton).  I don't necessarily agree with him - I don't think that just because characters and places are alien we can't empathise - look at E.T. - but what you see as a failing is a result of a conscious decision by Davies, and is something he sees as a positive point.  PaulHammond 23:21, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
::The Doctor isn't departing. Christopher Ecclestone is, but this being Doctor Who all that means is a regeneration into another body. Having seen a photo of the new guy I'm worried he won't be nearly as good, but I'm prepared to be proved wrong. PeteVerdon
I also think it's highly effective to have it all set on earth or places "owned" by earth. Being very interested in how governments react to extraterrestrial threat, Aliens of London, World War Three, The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances were wonderful. Unfortunately I missed ep.1, but Boom Town sounds a nice contingency-type thing! I can't wait.--217.137.90.126 06:16, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely - I've always been a big fan of UNIT because the concept just made sense. If you had a world where alien invasions happened every couple of weeks, a specialised military force to combat those threats is needed, with specialised equipment. If there were a real organisation like this I'd sign up like a shot. What they need is to introduce the concept in a bigger way, a new Brigadier-type character, and I'll be happy. --khaosworks 11:34, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
The entry in http://www.tvtome.com/DoctorWho_2005/guide.html for ep13 lists James Melody as the Watcher. No idea if that's accurate. --Billpg 10:00, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation regarding regeneration

message: surely some of those listed are un-notable and not deserving of wiki links? GraemeLeggett 10:11, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. It'll be fixed in the wash when the actually cast list section is written, or you can remove the red links now. --khaosworks 13:10, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
How accurate is the statement saying that its believed Davros returns? THe words "they survived through me" from the preview don't mean anything. It could be anybody, Omega, The Master or some new person. 19:36, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  cast listing in notes 

message: The BBC have a castlist here 
Notably, it has Mickey and Jackie again.  80.229.39.194 11:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Even more notably, not Dave Tennant... --Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 18:56, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet he was in it. --DudeGalea 19:10, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: My point exactly :) -Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 19:15, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Radio Times showed him as being in it. And the picture of him on the front cover was a bit of a giveaway too. :-) Cracking episode, I thought. The ending had a touch of the deus ex machina about it, but at least it relied upon pre-established stuff, so it wasn't like they just pulled it out of a hat. --DudeGalea 19:23, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast list 

message: If anyone's going to post any spoilers, could they mention that they are doing so in the edit summary? :) Tim! (talk) 17:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: much appreciated :), I'm also trying to avoid Time Lord and Gallifrey till I finish The Gallifrey Chronicles. Tim! (talk) 16:42, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoilers

message: The current version has it that it is a giant mutant... I think the creature itself is supposed to be normal size, isn't it? It's just surrounded itself with giant accoutrements. User:DavidFarmbrough 8:44 20 Jun 2005 (BST)
:It looked bigger to me, but I could be wrong. It definitely seems to have a larger lobed cerebrum-like thing at the back of its head, and taken in proportion with how large the rest of it is, I got the impression it was a giant version as well. Like I said, I could be wrong. --khaosworks
::I don't think the creature was larger than normal. I got the impression his large casing and head was intended to be a sign of insecurity bordering on paranoia. It was difficult to tell the size, with it being on a screen for much of the episode.User:DavidFarmbrough 12:32 20 Jun 2005 (BST)
:::It seemed to be in proportion with the domed head over the top, though it seemed more like a small thing dangling off the head piece compared to the dalek we saw in Dalek. Since the emperor appeared to be at least 4 or 5 times the size of an ordinary dalek, I think the creature was bigger too.  PaulHammond 16:22, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
::I think it was 1.5 - 2 times the size of a normal one. Thelb4 13:37, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emperor Dalek 

message: There is a content conflict here - Energy wants to say that the Daleks treat hovering around the Emperor Dalek as kneeling. My view is that there is no evidence to say that is what they are doing. I would welcome opinions from other editors as to what they think about this. --khaosworks 17:15, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
:See User talk:Khaosworks and User talk:Energy for more info on the debate. Contact me for further details.-->Energy (talk) 17:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Daleks "kneeling"

message: Without having an account it is difficult for us to communicate with him/her.
It would seem that edits to their contributions has provoked a reaction. With any luck they might read this and understand why the edits were dealt with like that. Lifting copyrighted text is not the wiki-way! GraemeLeggett 16:21, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  81.144.244.11 

message: Aren't the daleks written out of time? Isn't that it?--84.51.149.80 08:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Rose says, "I can see the whole of time and space; every single atom of your existence... and I divide them." While you could, at a stretch, interpret that to mean that she wipes them out of time, the immediate reading of that sentence to me, as a viewer, coupled with the visual of the Dalek and later on the Dalek ship dissolving, simply means that she is parting their atoms. Besides, writing them out of time entire would open that entire can of worms of changing history, blah blah blah Reapers blah, and I don't believe that was Davies' intent. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 09:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and after Jack comes back to life, he sweeps through a pile of dust in front of him, too. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 09:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wondered if that meant they had merely been teleported somewhere... :) Tim! (talk) 17:47, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reduced to atoms" 

message: I clarified the "kissing" note, as the original could be taken as saying that Piper preferred kissing Eccleston. She doesn't really say that. She does say that she preferred Rose's kiss with the Doctor because it was more "lingering". But I figure that the kiss was done that way because a lingering kiss was needed for that part of the story. IOW, maybe Piper does prefer kissing Eccleston, but there's nothing in the interview to suggest that. "Captain Jack's was quite brief," she considers. "Rose and the Doctor's was more lingering. Both quite wet, actually. But I like that. I like it when it's very real, tongues and all - " - DudeGalea 14:00, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kisses 

message: ... is what we see at the end of The Parting of the Ways. Should therefore the infobox's "followed by" field point to The Christmas Invasion, and not the Children in Need "mini-episode"? Tim! (talk) 17:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctor Who returns in The Christmas Invasion 

message: Is it just me, or is there a problem with Rose absorbing the vortex and living while the Doctor absorbs it out of her and dies?  Did he also absorb the damage done to her, thereby 'regenerating' her cells at the expense of his own?  Is this another regeneration as between Doctors 6 & 7, where the on-screen explanation for the Doctor's death requires a little fan-tweaking to make sense, or did I miss something? -- Proteus71 21:09, 26 Jan 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a commonly asked question, actually, so it's not just you. :) The most reasonable fanon explanation I've seen, or rather the explanation that seems to satisfy most people is that since the vortex energy gave Rose the power of life and death, it also did the same to the Doctor, who healed her while it was inside him (like she did Jack) and then released it... but of course there was no one to heal him. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That does explain it really well.  Too bad Davies missed it — it's one of the few occasions when he's missed something obvious.   -- Proteus71 23:58, 26 Jan 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vortex energy is lethal to whom? 

message: Hi guys, Im in the USA, and am just reading this now. Im quite disappointed, as Im just getting to like this show, and Christopher is doing an awesome job as the current doctor. It is a real shame that he decided to leave the show. Anyone else with me on this? TheOneCalledA1 00:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We were all disappointed, I think, but we move on. I have no complaints myself with David Tennant as the new Doctor, who's a marvellous choice. Still, all in all, we got a lot of stories out of Chris, and it was a fantastic year. (Still, this isn't the place to talk about it, as it's Wikipedia, not a fan forum... you can find lots of people to talk about this at Outpost Gallifrey). --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a shame, but from here it's old news.  (The fact Ecclestone was leaving broke the week after the first episode of Rose was aired in the UK).  It's one of those things - if an actor cannot be persuaded that staying on in a series is a good thing to do, there is little the production team can do about it except write his departure into the storyline.  As you'll find if you follow the net sources, there was all kinds of speculation about the reasons for Ecclestone's decsion from the time the news broke onwards.  PaulHammond 00:17, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angry with the ending 

message: Someone changed the date from June 18 to June 19 in the infobox and did so incorrectly, so the infobox wasn't showing. I corrected the link but I've got no idea which date is the correct one (it says June 18 in the text), someone should check it. Jashiin 20:49, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox date 

message: Does anyone else think that the Dalek that Jack destroys seems to have two eyes instead of one? I'm not sure if it's just a pecularity of the model, or a deliberate reference to these Daleks' human origins. The Emperor has one eye, but he also seems to have another eye-like fold on the side of his "face". David 13:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did anyone notice... 

message: A passing thought - is there a connection, perhaps to Fenris Wolf and Ragnorak? 62.6.121.44 21:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad Wolf

message: Can anyone here confirm that the gun the Doctor intended to use on the Dalek in the earlier episode is the same gun Captain Jack used in Parting of the Ways inside the TARDIS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radicaladz (talk • contribs) 
:They're not the same guns.  Jack made his out of blown up robot bits in Bad Wolf. DonQuixote 01:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Damn Gun 

message: The second paragraph of the Plot section states that:
"...the bastic bullets [were] ineffective,"
Is this a typo or not? I hesitate to change it to ballistic because I am not a Doctor Who expert. Any thoughts? --Hydraton31 (talk) 23:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The word bastic is correct. This is the word used and can be confirmed by turning on the subtitles when watching the appropriate portion of the episode. Thanks for asking before doing any editing. MarnetteD | Talk 00:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo? 

message: Since Torchwood Series 1 aired before Jack appeared in "Utopia", wasn't his immortality revealed before "Utopia" aired, in the Torchwood episode, "Everything Changes"? Starrynight06 (talk) 15:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. The first series reveals Jack's immortality more than once. However, in those 13 episodes no reference is made to the fact that is was Rose's actions that caused this. Naturally, it can be infered. I took a look at the item in question and tried to come up with a variation on the wording to allow for this but I couldn't come up with anything that I liked. If you have a suggestion please feel free to add it. MarnetteD | Talk 16:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I like your new wording. Do you think there should be a reference to Torchwood at all? Starrynight06 (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack's immortality revealed... 

message: At the end of the episode 'Age of Steel', Mickey Smith references this episode at the end of the episode. The line was something along the lines of 'Yeah, and one time I saved the universe with a big yellow truck'. This would be referring to when Jackie Tyler used a favor to commandeered a rescue tow vehicle, which was then used to pull open the console of the TARDIS, so Rose could travel back to the year 200,100 to save the Doctor. I don't have any references to use to verify this at the moment, other then the fact that I just watched 'Age of Steel', but I will look for some to use. Just thought I'd bring this to your attention, so it can be added to the continuity section. Thanks 2602:304:CDC0:C1E0:691D:598C:444A:E7BF (talk) 20:13, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Herehttp://www.chakoteya.net/doctorwho/28-6.htm is a site which is dedicated to scripts for Sci Fi shows, including Doctor Who. The link that I provided is a link to the episode 'Age of Steel'. The site is legit, and is very accurate. You could read along as you watch the episode, and it also describes what is happening throughout the episode, as well as character lines. Hope this helps. 2602:304:CDC0:C1E0:691D:598C:444A:E7BF (talk) 20:17, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention in 'Age of Steel' 

message: his last aperans is in day of the doctor  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1098:B300:91FE:84FD:410A:957 (talk) 15:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  the nineth drs aperans was in day of the doctor