Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction/Archive 4

message: I've proposed a slight re-wording on WT:NOT#Plot summaries part 3 for our current policy concerning plot summaries (WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information point 7). Requesting comments, especially since I don't recall the original discussion regarding the wording being advertised much. -- Ned Scott 04:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Policy on plot summaries 

message: Is there any template in place that would allow us to flexibly link to the various WikiCities projects on fictional universes in a manner akin to the Wikitionary or Wikiquote boxes? This would allow for a good way of handling the often very substantial amounts of in-universe information on some articles - merge whatever isn't already there to the WikiCity article and link to it, thus minimizing the sense that well-meaning fan contributions aren't worthwhile. Phil Sandifer 05:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an excellent idea. But given that Wikicities projects are not official Wikmedia projects, I'm not sure it would be possible. Would a simple template work? Perhaps someone with technical knowlege about the Wiki software and interrelationships can comment? -- BrianSmithson 05:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Flexible wikicity box?

message: I've been following the debate for a while now. A lot of good points are being made & I thought it would help if they were expressed in the Manual of Style itself.
Consequently, I have drafted a draft revision.
This updated manual of style has been commented on by a few contributors who have been posting on this site already. While I don't think this new revision is perfect, I think it is a good jumping off point for a new document. The main things I like about the revised version are:
*A focus on good referencing and notability - themes of many of the posts on this talk page.
*Key examples of article types that show good referencing, notability, and writing style.
I welcome any comments. Perhaps people could preface their posts in bold whether they think the revised page is Better or Worse than the current page. If enough people like it, than it might be grounds for a change in the future...
Dr Aaron 06:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I quite like the revision, and think it is significantly better than the current version. DCB4W 23:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Seems good so far. Simple where simple is needed, and really cleans up the guideline. Maybe some of the longer write ups about things (in the original) could turn into essays, if others want to save them?  -- Ned Scott 23:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not bad, but it's a bit all over the place. I don't particularly like the orange example boxes disrupting the flow; the example articles at the end of the guideline should suffice. I'm not convinced the current guideline is broken, so at this point, I think the draft revision isn't needed. I'll keep an eye on it though and see how it changes. — BrianSmithson 02:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: An alternative proposal

message: I'd like to propose the addition of:
Creative works "are" (not "were") unless they have been lost or destroyed.
Recently there has been a bit of talk regarding whether to use past or present tense in articles. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Matthew speaks of WT:TV#Was vs. Is. -- Ned Scott 20:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a few lines about tense to the draft revision - perspectives in fiction section to reflect that existing fictional material is best referred to in the present tense. Dr Aaron 23:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  If there are no objections to this addition I will add it soon. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is and was. 

message: To give some coherency to the many little sf-oriented communities on Wikipedia.--ragesoss 20:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New WikiProject: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction]]