Talk:Flag of Kurdistan

message: Although the elements of this flag are historic and have been around for a long time, in its modern measurements, description and choice of the shades of colors, number of sun rays and the literature that goes with it, two persons are to be solely credited: Dr. Mehrdad M. R. Izady for writing the description, choosing the shades, and numbering the rays of the sun disk. He is the historian and the folklorist. Then is Dr. Eliasi, who as an engineer, provided the measurements and proportions of the flag, ascertained the international color codes, and provided the technical aspects of the flag. This was all done on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Kurdish Republic of Mahabad. No other person was involved. So, these two scholars ought to be lauded for their efforts to revive and standardize the "Sunny Flag", although no Kurd seem to be concerned about this. In America, Betsy Ross is routinely celebrated for having tailored the first American flag. Why the Kurds are so forgetful?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.22.233 (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the first time I've heard of them. Do you have a source for this? ~ Zirguezi 23:08, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Designers of this Flag

message: It is not a country how can it be a national flag? In 1946 there was a kurdish state? thats news to me. --Cat out 23:05, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because it's a matter of discussion doesn't mean it should not be on Wikipedia. Furthermore, a flag doesn't have to have legal status to be interesting, notable, or worthy of an article; for example, a number of French territories have unofficial flags with no legal status whatsoever, yet they're still on Wikipedia. And thirdly, if you want to discuss changes to this article, I'd suggest you get a user account. —  ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 10:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Read my comment below. No one ever said Kurdistan is a country, so it's pointless to say that it isn't. —Khoikhoi 20:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: Many non-state nations have flags of their own, Palestinians, for example. The Kurdish Republic at Mahabad carried two flags: the State flag (this one) and the government's flag, as did and still do many countries around the world. There is nothing unusual about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:C686:B00:223:32FF:FE9A:1153 (talk) 18:20, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Answer

message: Should the stub be removed from this page?
:I don't think three sentences makes an article. The stub message is there to encourage people to expand the article.Iota 18:49, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this really a stub? 

message: Removing POV tag. The main objection seems to be that it exists; it might be a POV flag, but the article on the flag does not seem to be.--The Minister of War 05:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: The Kurdish flag is similar to the flags of Hungary, Tajikistan, Ghana, Ethiopia, Bolivia and Iran. However, it isnot based on the Iranian one. (For a list these flags see ). The yellow sun in the center of the flag, is the distinct character of the Kurdish Flag, which cannot be found in other flags.Heja Helweda 06:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Kurdish Flag is not based on the Iranian flag

message: The distinctive red, yellow and green of the Kurdish flag is banned in Turkey, indeed at the height of the conflict in Batman, one of the largest towns in the Kurdish area had the amber light of the traffic lights removed as the red, amber and green was seen as symbolizing the Kurdish struggle! The Turkish flag however, was flying everywhere, some of the flags so big they covered the fronts of entire buildings. Also written everywhere above the streets, in very large letters was the slogan, ‘How happy is he who calls himself a Turk?’ - Maybe, but what about the Kurds?”
According to this report, the Kurdish flag is banned in Turkey. Is this the case? - FrancisTyers 19:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think it is. I don't think the government of Turkey likes the idea of an independant Kurdish state.. I can't confirm that it is banned, but I definately don't believe it would be popular to be put it up over there! --Kash 22:57, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I for one am warry of the citation. Both sources are less than neutral. I do not believe the flag itself is banned. I however believe raising it is considered a "civil-disturbance" which is also inconclusive since flag is generaly raised during civil disturbances already in progress. --Cat out 16:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: It is in deed banned in Turkey. But also Iran and Syria  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Banned

message: I don't see anywhere in the article that it says "Kurdistan is a country".  But nor is Palestine; and it has its own flag. All 50 states of US have their own flags, as do federal states in India, Brazil, Germany.......   So what bothers this Turkish guy is the fact that a third of Turkey is Kurdish and fast increasing in proportions. Kurds are here to stay, as they were thousands of years before, anyone had heard of the Turk.
I don't know anyone who thinks it is, either. It's a geographic region, as well as a cultural one, which makes it a notable term. It's only a political region in Iraq, but not in Turkey, Syria, and Iran, and it shouldn't be made on on Wikipedia. However, adding "Kurdistan is not a country" is pointless. —Khoikhoi 22:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Flag of Antarctica has been around for a while I doubt this article is going anywhere.Geni 13:23, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To clear things up 

message: The article discusses the significance of the Sun, but it doesn't mention the colors and their positioning.  This is odd, considering most of the other flags explain the significance of such things.  I think that it should be added.  It looks like Iran's, but with reverse order.  An explanation is called for.  The Behnam 03:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are similar. It may have some connections with Iranian flag , as both Kurds and Persians are related to eachother, themselves. The answer of this question may be found in Xoybun documents. Asoyrun 21:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The colors stand for Red: The blood and sacrifice of the Kurdish people. White: Peace. Green: Nature (which I guess must mostly refer to the mountains, but still nature). I don't think there is a direct linkt between the kurdish flag and the iranian. it could today perhaps be considered a pan-aryan coloring as the red,green and black of the pan-arabian colors. but this is i believe a later construction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 22:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Colors & Pattern

message: :The flag with the star-like sun  has long been favored and encouraged by Kurdish scholars, but Barzani does not allow to adopt it, saying the current flag of Kurdistan  is a historic flag for Kurdish movement:(
:Even Mam Jalal has prefered it to the current flag! Henisk 04:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What scholars do you reffer to? The "star-like sun" flag is the former flag of Iraq, it has never been a flag for Kurdistan. The only link to the Kurds is the sun. I don't think the old Iraqi flag is more popular than the current Alla Rengín in the kurdish publics mind.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1959-1963 flag of Iraq is favored with respect to the 1963-2008 flags of Iraq... AnonMoos (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes the 1959-1963 flag of Iraq is favoured before the 1963-2008 flag of Iraq, not as a Kurdish flag but as the flag of the republic of Iraq. Allay Rengín is still the most popular flag and most extensively used and generally accepted by the Kurds. It would also be quite strange to use the 1959-1963 flag of Iraq as it still carries the pan-arabic colours. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.233.227.69 (talk) 00:12, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The other flag

message: It's wrong to name the Kurdistani flag as "Kurdish flag". It is the flag of KURDISTAN, and the flag of the region of KURDISTAN in Iraq and also for the major Kurdistan (which is not independent yet). So the flag of Kurdistan (not the "Kurdish flag") refers to the geographic region of KURDISTAN which is populated by Kurds (muslims [shia/sunni], yezidi Kurds, shabak Kurds, Kakayi Kurds),and also populated by other ethnic and religious groups, such as Turkmens, Syrianics/Keldans/Assyrians/armenians, even Arabs/Turks/persian. So the flag is called "The flag of KURDISTAN", NOT "The Kurdish flag", although the name "kurdish flag" refers to an ethnic name which is far from the reality. In the Constitution of Kurdistan Regional Government (which is on its way), it is determined that the Kurdistan Region (even greater Kurdistan)is an GEOGRAPHIC region, NOT ethnic region. That is that this flag is called The Flag of KURDISTAN, NOT "The Kurdish flag". The enemies of Kurdistan who have control of other parts of Kurdistan want to name the flag of Kurdistan as "kurdish flag", to try to wipe the rich history of Kurdistan which exists in more than 4000 years, from the Medes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.151.43.53 (talk) 15:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of KURDSTAN, NOT "Kurdish flag" 

message: I'm seeing some different flags in news coverage of political issues regarding Turkish Kurdistan, but I am unable to find reference on them. If anyone knows more about these, should it be added here, or possibly in a separate article?
http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2009/05/0526_akkaya.jpg
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2007-w44/img.49801_t.jpg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.245.181 (talk) 15:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/krd%7Dpkk.html (scroll down to "Variant 4") and http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/krd-kp.html (scroll down to Related (?) flags"). AnonMoos (talk) 18:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  flags of Turkish Kurdistan? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Demokratik Toplum Partisi.png

message: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/krd_slvd.html is not reliable source. For example, We know that normal Kurdish flags were used in the Republic of Ararat. We need other sources. Probably we must remove some flags from Commons. Takabeg (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it not a reliable source? It might not get everything right but it does list it's own sources for the flag. I think it's pretty reliable. ~ Zirguezi 16:33, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Some flags

message: The "flag" of the Movement for Change keeps getting added to the article. I don't think it belongs here. First of it's not a flag, it's a logo. The logo might get used on flags a lot but that doesn't make it an official flag. 2nd This flag has no resemblance or reference tot the Kurdish flag other than being Kurdish. All the other flags use at least one of the three Kurdish colours and usually have a logo in the middle which is an obvious reference to the sun in the Kurdish flag. If we started listing every single flag here just because they are Kurdish we might as well list the entire Category:Kurdish flags here which is not something we want. We should only list flags that are inspired or have an obvious reference to the Kurdish flag. ~ Zirguezi 07:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The title says "Kurdish political flags". The Gorran flag is no more or less of a "logo" than the PUK or DTP flags - only you seem to not be a big fan of the color blue. I don't know where you're writing from, but here in Kurdistan, the Gorran flag is immediately recognizable as a "Kurdish political flag". Maybe if you want to alter to title to something like "Flags influenced by the Kurdish nationalist colors", then you would have a case. 109.127.86.5 (talk) 11:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The title of the paragraph is indeed Kurdish Political Flags but the paragraph itself is located on the page of the flag of Kurdistan and as such has to be related to flag of Kurdistan. The other flags are related to the flag of Kurdistan because they all use at least one of the colours(Red, Yellow or Green) and they all have a round/circle shaped logo/symbol which is an obvious reference to the sun on the Kurdish flag. The Movement for Change flag doesn't use one of the 3 colours, it doesn't have a round/circle logo/symbol. It might be a political flag but there here is zero reference to the flag being inspired or related to the flag of Kurdistan. As such I don't think it should be listed here. About the DTP "flag" it also looks more like a logo than a flag and I'd have removed it had it not been for the colours and logo. ~ Zirguezi 23:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Movement for Change]] 

message: I think we'd better remove the section: Kurdish Political Flags. Because they are irrelevant to Alaya Kurdistanê. Regards. Takabeg (talk) 11:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree some of the flags look really similar and I doubt anyone looking for info on the flag of Kurdistan would be interested in flags of Kurdish political parties and if they are they can just follow the link to Commons. ~ Zirguezi 23:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't seem to be any objection so I removed the section. ~ Zirguezi 14:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Kurdish political flags

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thread_title: File:Flag of the Republic of Ararat (fictitious).svg Nominated for Deletion

message: This article was very cluttered and filled with double info and unsourced claims. I've attempted to make it a bit better.
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*I've removed the large amounts of text in the infobox. If people want more info they can read the article.
*I've added several sources to back up claims made in this article. We now have more than enough sources to establish the existence and use of this flag. ~ Zirguezi 22:59, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article cleanup 

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message: There is not a uique flag for Kurdish areas and the current name should be changed to the "Flags used by Kurds" instead. In Turkish and Syrian Kurdish areas, the flag is completely different from the introduced flag. The intrdced flag is for Iraqi Kurdistan region. Please bring your reasoning if you do not agree. SHADEGAN (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source for your claim? Please distinguish the Kurdish flag from party flags. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: ,There is not a uique flag for Kurdish areas and the current name should be changed to the "Flags used by Kurds" instead. In Turkish and Syrian Kurdish areas, the flag is completely different from the introduced flag. The introdced flag is for Iraqi Kurdistan region. Please bring your reasoning if you do not agree and stop reverting baselesslySHADEGAN (talk) 15:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

text: source for that claim? --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

text: Hello all. Please note that this issue has been brought up before and also resolved at here, where reliable sources are given which have since been added to this article. You are welcome to open up the discussion again if you think you have new information to add, but please provide reliable sources so this doesn't turn into a he said/she said competition. ~ Zirguezi 17:43, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  , As an Iranic people, the section [] is based on similar colours in areas with dominant Iranic culture and origin. The content theme is about this issue, please let it be in it's contents.SHADEGAN (talk) 03:00, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

text:   You are nothing but disruptive. Why did you remove the information about the Tev-Dem flag and the chronology section --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 09:04, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{ping|Ahmedo Semsurî}}, There is not a unique flag for Kurdish areas 

message: No moves without a proper move request, please. I have moved the page back to the status quo ante (procedural) and move protected it just to discourage even the temptation of a move war. Please go through the proper channels if you wish to see this article retitled — certainly, using the move as an instrument in an ongoing edit conflict is inappropriate. El_C 16:24, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I'd like to request all users to discuss their disputes here before resorting to editing. Most of the issues brought up in the recent 'edit wars' have been discussed at length on this talkpage. Users that have new information regarding these issues are encouraged to open up a new section here. I'd like to advise everyone to read this previouos discussion too. ~ Zirguezi 17:33, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Moves

message: This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because there's reliable references explicitly stating that the 'the colorful flag' is the flag of KURDISTAN (as mentioned in the article). Now, no where on this article, nor elsewhere on Wikipedia will you find information that would indicate that Kurdistan is a sovereign state. Sovereignty is irrelevant and dozens of autonomous regions and even mere provinces have flags - flags that are ALSO seen as ethnic flags. Portbase has clearly not even bothered to check the references. Also,  You have been very disruptive lately and most of your edits have been rightfully reverted. This is just a continuation and I hope admins will see your 'contributions'-history.  --Semsurî (talk) 16:58, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely DO NOT DELETE... AnonMoos (talk) 22:58, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: this flag? has no real source or whatsoever. It's known that the Xoybûn used a tricolor flag Red-White-Green and a sun in the middle. so what is this nonsense? Qijik (talk) 13:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag used by the Xoybûn 

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message: Kurdistan flag color meaning 185.136.148.21 (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kurdistan flag color meaning 

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