Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Polish military history task force/Archive 1

message: Here: Talk:Polish_September_Campaign#Numbers.2C_numbers --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 19:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help! 

message: Zmienilem troche 
Mniej wiecej to wyglada tak: Stanislaw Kopanski, Bronislaw Duch, Gustaw Orlicz-Dreszer co Wy na to?--Witkacy 02:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Soldiers

message: There's not a huge number of Polish military stub articles, and probably not enough for a stub category ordinarily, but a "supporting" WikiProject could justify such a thing.  By my tally there are about 15 article in the main  category, plus doubtless more in subordinates categories such as weapons, aircraft types, etc.  If it'd be useful here, it should of course be proposed first.  Alai 00:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And discussed (see this). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:28, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Piotrus.  I think that if proposed as a WP-specific stub, it'd already be viable, due to the additional ones you've found.  Alternatively, if there are enough other stubs in , etc, to bring it up to about 60 total, I'll propose it myself.  (Currently these would go into the newly-created .)  Alai 00:59, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Still no takers?  I'll do a recount presently, and if it hits 60, and propose it regardless, but some interest from this wikiproject would be faintly encouraging.  Alai 05:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I already created a  to suit our needs some time ago. It's still underpopulated (and facing TfD), but it's there. //Halibutt 13:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe just re-scope it as a "Polish military stub" for now?  Are there many Polish Air Force articles that would need a separate stub type? Kirill Lokshin 14:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A stub type? 

message: I have expanded Józef Dowbor-Muśnicki's career in the Russian military and his January-February 1918 clashes with pro-Bolshevik (mostly Latvian riflemen) forces using English and Russian language sources. Unfortunately, his role in the Greater Poland Uprising is poorly covered in most English language books  and my Polish is so weak these days that carefully checking Polish language sources would take too long. If somebody could review/expand his contributions in 1918-1920, it would be lovely :) Ahasuerus 15:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Halibutt 14:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great work, thanks! Ahasuerus 03:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Józef Dowbor-Muśnicki 

message: I am pondering starting a page on my great-uncle Karol Werner (son of Edward Werner).  I know that he was an officer with one of the WWII Polish divisions at Falaise Gap, probably a tank commander of some sort, based in Scotland, but I haven't been able to dig up much more information.  Writing to the UK office just got a letter confirming that he was an officer, along with his dates of service.  Can anyone here suggest a source of information to get more details about his military career?  Have you seen his name in any of your books?  It would be useful both for me personally, for Wikipedia, and also for his widow who is still living in France. --Elonka 19:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The question is, is being an officer notable? My grandfother reacher a rank of captain, fought in three wars (IWW, PSW and IIWW (PSC and then captive, to be specific)) and wrote memoires (recently published), but I am still not sure if he qualifies as notable...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  10:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karol Werner 

message: Hello all. I recently stumbled upon the article on Polish death camps phenomenon. It was poorly written so I gave it a try and referenced some of the remarks there. Do you think that the phenomenon deserves a better article than a mere stub? Halibutt 10:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Molobo notified me that there were articles both on Polish death camps and Polish concentration camps. As there was little content in the latter, I simply redirected it. Feel free to correct me if you think I was wrong. Anyway, there's a lot of books to complete the article (also here). There are some particularly outrageous quotations there, as for instance here: (..) the numbers of murders piling up in the name of the German people—in the Polish concentration camps, in the German camps, on the streets, in prisons (...) So, there were both Polish and German camps at the same time? A hard nut it seems... //Halibutt 10:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been doing my bit on this subject on the Dutch wikipedia...both on the main page (what happened on this day?) as well the article about Auschwitz was talking about Polish death camp. Quickly changed it, with commentary, in the hope people will learn something... Pkmink 12:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish death camps 

message: Would be nice, don't you think so?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ← here you go. —Kirill Lokshin 00:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project userbox 

message: I'm currently working on a lengthy article on one of my personal heroes, Ludomił Rayski. I managed to write his story up to 1938 or so, but the most interesting part is still ahead. Anyway, I would appreciate any help, especially with sourcing the article. Do we know of any non-Polish language sources mentioning him? //Halibutt 18:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rayski 

message: Gentlemen, there's been some ado around the  recently, but it seems I managed to defend it against TfDers and it seems it would stay. To populate the category I created some stubs on Polish WWII air squadrons and some notable pilots, feel free to write more :) //Halibutt 09:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish Air Force stub 

message: Hello all (is there anyone here?). Balcer has provided us with excellent pics of some of Polish military equipment kept in Finnish museums. :commons:Vickers 6-Ton already has it's article, but :commons:Wz. 78-09-31 Schneider 120 mm gun and :commons:Wz. 29 Schneider 105 mm gun don't. Anyone interested or should I do it myself? //Halibutt 10:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it's 'if you want to have it done, do it yourself' world :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  10:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish armament 

message: At Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2006/June we are voting on  and .--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stubs in voting 

message: The article Battles of Narvik which is supported by this task force is now the focus of the current collaboration of the fortnight. Please join in improving this article.
Inge 12:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Collaboration|Military history Collaboration of the Fortnight]] 

message: I am member of the German military history task force. We do have a problem defining German, it is simply an impossible task to define German in medieval history without hurting anybody´s national feelings (Swiss, Dutch, Austrians, Czechs, etc.) because some of it was part of the Holy Roman Empire of German (stupid translation of an ancient word of germanic origin meaning common people) Nation.
Well, I suggested to skip all national identity issues. Current Germany does have Slavic roots (for example Rügen, Pomerania, Brandenburg) as well as Baltic (former Prussia), Romano-Celtic (Bavaria) and Germanic (Lower Saxony) and it is according to scientific literature impossible to define the German nation back in history, while there are lots of nations defining themselves as non-German (Dutch, Swiss, Austrians, etc.).
Instead we could write from the perspective of a Central European military history taskforce. This way we could give a better view upon the multiple connections in between these areas. Personally I think it would be sad if such a cooperation in wikipedia was not possible, while France and Germany publish together a history schoolbook.
Kirill Lokshin pointed out there is likely to be some hot debate about Gdansk/Danzig. Well it had German, Polish and other inhabitants and was member of the Hanseatic League for some time. If you could tell me any troublespots and perhaps your opinion on the suggested merger. Thank you. Wandalstouring 23:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (It would probably be a good idea to note—before anyone gets terribly upset—that this is only a query, and that no merger can take place without the explicit agreement of both task forces.) Kirill Lokshin 23:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is just a personal suggestion, nothing official. (Honestly, tell me how this idea could upset anyone?) Wandalstouring 23:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It's refershing to see such a novel and level headed approach to this. As Krill pointed out, this was often not the case in the past. Unfortunately I am afraid this proposal will fail because there would be not enough people willing (or having time) to contribute both to their favourite nation project and the regional project. We have already tried a similar experiment with the Wikipedia:Eastern European Wikipedians' notice board which is almost completly forgotten now. Perhaps one of these two projects can be adapted to facilitate crossposting? User:Ingoolemo/Thread help or m:LiquidThreads? PS. I wonder if this thread has been crossposted to other boards then this one?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  10:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well there is only a German and Polish taskforce really concerned. The Dutch taskforce is something in between Central and Western Europe, so I left them out for now. Actually there might be some gaps to fill which might escape national attention. Writing about the Holy Roman Empire is also much easier this way. On the other hand you pointed out that interested to contribute tends to be correlated with interest to contribute on a specific ethnity. Perhaps we can find a solution like a superstructure. (This way national ID disputes are also easier to solve). Wandalstouring 12:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One approach might be to keep the national task forces—as there are a great many topics for which such an association is perfectly clear—and let the variety of items around the fringes either be considered by muliple task forces (including period-based, rather than geographic ones), or even simply taken by the central project as a whole, without being tagged into any task force.  Insofar as the task forces are meant to be more collaborative work areas based on common interests, rather than separate projects with formal scopes, I think it might be easier to avoid overthinking questions of inclusion a priori and let them be guided instead by the interests of the participants. Kirill Lokshin 15:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central European military history task force 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 21:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Antoni Dunin is a Polish military biography stub listed for deletion. In the article it is claimed he received the Virtuti Militari. One of his grandchildren User:Elonka seems interested in the biography. Perhaps you have an idea what can be done about this. Wandalstouring 05:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish military biography stub 

message: Don't know if this project is going outside 20th century yet, but anyways.... I stubbed Polish-Sweden War (1600–1611), Polish-Sweden War (1620–1622), Polish-Sweden War (1625–1629) out from this one, which was getting unwieldy, but am having difficulty rewriting them into independent articles, with a beginning, middle and end etc.  Any takers to help? Neddyseagoon - talk 16:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Polish-Swedish Wars]] 

message: Battle of Konotop is listed as part of the Polish-Russian Wars in the Polish wiki. The article has stirred up some heated disputes. Perhaps some of you know a bit about the topic and can help. Wandalstouring 20:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Konotop 

message: There's a new peer review request for Armia Krajowa that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 01:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Armia Krajowa]] 

message: There's a new peer review request for Vilnius Castle Complex that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 20:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Vilnius Castle Complex]] 

message: There's a new peer review request for Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 04:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Soviet invasion of Poland (1939)]] 

message: There's a new peer review request for Soviet partisans that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 03:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Soviet partisans]] 

message: There's a new request for A-Class status for Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 00:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-Class review for [[Soviet invasion of Poland (1939)]] 

message: There's a new peer review request for Operation Wilno that may be of interest to editors here; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 20:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Operation Wilno]] 

message: Warsaw Uprising has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
LuciferMorgan 15:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Warsaw Uprising FAR

message: Since I'm definitely not an expert on this topic, if anyone has insight on the Virtuti Militari in the WWII era, your comments would be greatly appreciated.  Also, some of the references to this medal and his military work are in Polish, so anyone who might be able to translate, we could certainly use the help :) Thanks. Shell babelfish 18:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antoni Dunin (2nd nomination)]] 

message: The A-Class review for Smolensk War is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated!  Thanks! Kirill 01:07, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-Class review for [[Smolensk War]] now open 

message: There's a new peer review request for Battle of Albuera that may be of interest to you; any input there would be appreciated.  Thanks! Kirill 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review request for [[Battle of Albuera]]