Talk:Native American Church

message: Having the persuasive opinion in the article in the boldface detracted from the overall credibility of the article, I thought, so I removed the boldface and left parts in regular font, and I did remove the argument about whether or not the laws affecting peyote distribution are constitutional.  Maybe that could be a separate section presenting the various arguments pro and con?  But it was really very awkward where it was.  Amity150 23:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peyote polemics 

message: I question the the following statement as is relates to the Native American Church topic:  "Many Tribes practice inipi ceremonies, a.k.a. Sweat lodge, which involve prayer, singing, and the taking of the peyote sacrament. These ceremonies are of shorter duration than a NAC tipi peyote ceremony, and are performed during the day, and at night."
As I have come to understand, the inipi ceremony arose from a completely different source - not that of the peyote religion.  Also, stated on the inipi page is the following:  "An Inipi ceremony, also known as a sweat lodge, is a Lakota purification ceremony."  This is consistent with my understanding.  
I recommend removing the above statement from the Native American Church site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainwood (talk • contribs) 23:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inipi Statement 

message: After reading through the article, a few lines lept out in my mind as out of place. One place is in the following exerpt:
"There are only 3 licensed Peyoteros left in Texas, due to overhavesting, and illegal poaching, and strict licensing and tax regulations by the Texas Department of Public Safety and the U.S. Federal government. They are attempting to make Peyote inaccessible to the people. When the people listen to what the Peyote Medicine has to say, and follow their true higher spirit selves, government has no authority. Only Creator has authority. That is the truth, regardless of the pervasive fear and terror used to scare people into submission."
The first sentence kept in the context of the paragraph, but after that it goes into what seems like a very personal point of view. I didn't want to remove these lines right away without checking if I was right to assume they don't really belong. 
The following line also strikes me as odd, having almost nothing to do with the surrounding text:
"This is a religious issue, not a racial issue."
Irontobias (talk) 01:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point of view, questionable remarks. 

message: I don't see the relevance of this section to the Native American Church and am considering deleting it. I request opinions about this matter.
Frankly, a lot of the material in this article doesn't seem particularly relevant to an article on the NAC. Perhaps a broader scope article should be created where some of the material would be more appropriate and could be linked to from this NAC article. Moss&Fern (talk) 13:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fabled White Peyote section. Deletion as irrelevant to NAC? 

message: I came here from the peyote article, which talked about legal exemptions for the NAC, and stated that it was claimed the law was "racially neutral". I get here, and all I can find is that distributing peyote is limited to those of native descent. What I was curious about was whether membership of the religion, and participation in the peyote ceremonies, is limited (whether by law or by the NAC) to those of native descent or not. Maybe this information would be outside the scope of this article, but if not, it'd probably be interesting information to have in the article. Xmoogle (talk) 12:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions left unanswered 

message: On Quannah Parker's page, it indicates that he is a founder of the Native American Church. That needs to be mentioned here as well as what his role in founding it was. Taram (talk) 20:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Another unanswered Question

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: Are there any specific doctrines and beliefs that tend to separate this in any notable way from other similar religions? If so, can we have someone add a section there, as I can't seem to find anything specific to belief structure, doctrine, etc. 66.90.153.184 (talk) 23:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There are. I found a book titled "Menomini peyotism : a study of individual variation in primary group with a homogeneous culture" extensively on the Menominee people's sect of peyotism. It includes a chapter on doctrinal beliefs. — I'ma editor2022 (🗣️💬 |📖📚) 23:55, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Specific Doctrines and Beliefs