Talk:Mirwais Hotak

message: I am proposing to move this page to Mir Wais Hotak, as Khan is a title, and as modern references to him use Mir Wais rather than Mirwais.  Is there any objection? --Bejnar 16:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move page ?

message: The RFC on the origin and ethnicity of Mirwais Khan Hotak and the Hotaki dynasty are being conducted on the Hotaki dynasty talk page, as that is where a lot of the discussion of this issue has appeared.  --Bejnar 16:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Comment: Hotaki dynasty origin and ethnicity

message: You shouldn't remove the Persian Cromwell, which  is the only first hand account of Mirwais. It is a primary source and you have replaced with secondary sources of British Empire historians. Mirwais being a Ghilji Pashtun is a big lie like Putta Khazana. Mirwais's lineage is well documented in Indian (Mughul), European and even some Iranian archives.  Mirwais was a Turk (Tatar and Uzbek). It is not Putta Khazana times that information remain hidden anymore. 
I have edited the page suppling some modern scholarly sources for the questioned facts. The citation to the 1725 British work of fiction, Persian Cromwell, has been removed. --Bejnar 18:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern scholarly sources

message: The material correctly deleted by KnowledgeOfSelf as a potential violation of copyright, should be mined for appropriate information, if it can be collaborated from a reliable source. It can be viewed at link or link. --Bejnar 20:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright violation - deleted material

message: This material is contentious. The 21 May version of early life read:
::Mirwais Hotak was born in a well-known, rich and political family in the Kandahar area. His family had long been involved in social and community services. He was the son of Alem Khan and Nazo Tokhi (also known as "Nazo Anaa"), grandson of Karum Khan, and great-grandson of Ismail Khan, a descendant of Malikyar, the ancient head of Hottaki or Hotaks. The Hottaki is a strong branch of Ghilzai, one of the main tribes among the Pashtun people. Hajji Amanullah Hottak reports in his book that the Ghilzai tribe is the original residents of Ghor or Gherj. This tribe migrated later to obtain lands in southeastern Afghanistan and multiplied in these areas.ref name="bw" Mirwais was married to Khanzada Sadozai, who belonged to the rival Abdali tribe of Pashtuns.
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The 29 May version by IP editor 160.39.240.120 was altered and expanded to two paragraphsread:
::Mirwais was born in a well-known and politically connected family in Kandahar area to a Tatar father and Uzbek mother. He was the son of Emir Baqir Mohammad and Guni (also known as "Nazo" meaning infertile in Persian as Mirwais's birth ended the rumors that Guni was 'Nazo' or infertile). Mirwais's father, Emir Baqir Mohammad was originally the Chief Khan in Bukhara and his mother Guni was the daughter of an influential Khan from Balkh. Before Mirwais was born, his family moved from Bukhara to Balkh and then to Kandahar after his father defeated the Persian garrison and captured the city. According to his only biographer, the Swedish Officer, before his birth, Mirwais's mother had a dream that an eagle flew out of her lap, who flew very high in the air, and the higher the eagle flew, the greater he grew till at last "he shaded with his wings all Persia and a part of India." 
::Mirwais was educated with his parents utmost care. By the age of eight, Mirwais was already fluent in Persian and Arabic. Mirwais's circumcision ceremony is well documented as his father held a grand feast and invited ambassadors from the Great Mughal's Court, the Kingdom of Persia and other nearby foreign nations. At the end of the ceremony, Emir Mohammad Baqir declared his son's name as 'Mohammad Mirwais'. At the age of 15, Mirwais was well versed in all the necessary sciences and was sent for further education to the Great Mughal's Court by his father, whom the Great Mughal considered as his vassal in Kandahar. He was received with honor by the Sultan of Agra. There Mirwais got acquainted with the Great Mughal, who afforded him a "very favorable" reception. Mirwais frequented the court every day from then on until he fell in love and got married with the grand daughter of Shah Alam, Roshanara Begum and returned to Kandahar
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*Try to work out the differences here by discussion on the talk page and do not restore the /* Early life */ section until there is consensus and at least two citations to reliable sources. --Bejnar (talk) 22:24, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early life 

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message: I hate to say it, but this articles relies too much on a outdated source from 1878 (WP:AGE MATTERS) by person who is not even an academic historian, and seems more reminiscent of a primary source. The name of "Afghanistan" did not have a state designation during this period, and its extent and location often fluctated (per the last cited source). Mirwais Hotak did not use the titles of "Emir" or "Shah" either. WP:RS do not refer to the Hotaki dynasty an "empire" either.
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--HistoryofIran (talk) 11:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @HistoryofIran Hey, now that I have finished Dost Mohammad Khan, I will likely begin working to revamp Mirwais's page again as I did this when I was fairly new to Wikipedia. I will take into account your sources and some other ones as you have probably seen that I used before. Just letting you know. Also might work on Ahmad Shah Durrani. Noorullah (talk) 05:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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