Talk:List of Dutch Jews

message: I don't have time myself, but I miss some persons in the list:
Alexander Pola, TV writer, actor and comedian 
his daughter Clairy Polak, TV journalist 
Simon van Collem, journalist and TV maker 
Stella Fontaine, cabaret artist 
Prof. Marius Gustaaf Levenbach, important professor of labour law   
Brandenburger (talk) 23:26, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing names

message: Maybe someone with more knowledge of linking can provide the links where it says 'there is no page about' but there is (see for instance Jessica Durlacher) ? Thanks Adri
:Has been resolved by User:Jitse Niesen. Thanks, Jitse! gidonb (talk) 11:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Jessica Durlacher]]

message: I suggest changing the name List of Dutch Jews, which is now redirected here. The current "List of Dutch Jewish writers and poets" can be a category of the larger list. gidonb (talk) 03:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I received no comments in favor or against, so just went ahead and made the changes I suggested. gidonb (talk) 17:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I went on and also merged the list of Jews in the Jewish history article into this list. While there is place for a very select list in that article, it contained a long list of Jews that were not mentioned elsewhere, frequently without articles and at times even not notable. gidonb (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change and mergers

message: Just a few words on the selection:
* Artists - Arguably, the most famous Jewish artists are the Israëls, father and son. There was a portrait of Jozef, but not of Isaac.
* Actors and comedians - I found no photographs, but Louis Davids would be great. As of yet he has no article, however, on en.wiki and there are no direct photos on nl.wiki.
* Academics - Erasmus (not Jewish) and Spinoza (great portrait) are the most famous Dutch scientists. Asser was chosen because he won the Nobel prize for Peace.
* Businesspeople - no photographs, also on nl.wiki. 
* Musicians - Lenny Kuhr was my first choice as she won the Eurovision Song Contest.
* Politicians - Ed van Thijn probably is the most prominent of all times, but has a poor photo. Job Cohen already had his picture in a list and is highly notable.
* Rabbis - I liked the image of Isaac Aboab da Fonseca best.
* Sports people - Daniel de Ridder already had his picture in a list and is highly notable.
* Writers - my first choice would be Anne Frank and Harry Mulisch, however these have respectively a limited use photo and a poor photo on nl.wiki. Instead I chose Helga Deen and Jacob Israel de Haan. 
Comments are welcome. gidonb (talk) 14:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Leon de Winter as a contemporary author. Unfortunately this photo is also black and white and he is looking down. gidonb (talk) 17:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I also found a great self-portrait of Eduard Frankfort on the Dutch Wikipedia. gidonb (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added some more photographs, but I think I got the idea across above: Notability of the person, availability of a photo, quality of the photo and space were the main considerations. gidonb (talk) 23:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Photographs

message: Names that presumably could be added, because pictures conciderably show characteristics, that are specific for either the Jewish (sub-(sub-)) race, or for the race, from which Jewish ethnicity (among others) resulted:
*Frans Körver, soccer ,  
* Jan de Quay 
*Guusje ter Horst, politics 
*Dries van Agt, politics
*André van der Louw, politics 
*Gerald Vanenburg, soccer 
*Jelle Zijlstra, politics 
--VKing (talk) 18:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No reliable references whatsoever were provided. gidonb (talk) 20:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Photographs can have the same function as citations. For all names, mentioned on the list of famous beardwearers, hardly any citations seem to be available.--VKing (talk) 15:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide reliable, independent sources that Judaism can be recognized by one's facial features? :-( gidonb (talk) 13:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More names 

message: I have just moved the list of Jews from Amsterdam into this article. The list is still separate and needs to be combined under the categories. It was not referenced at its old location and the duplicity with List of Dutch Jews was just too large to defend its separate existence (for the smaller communities this is somewhat different). After completing the mergers, each single item on this and other lists needs to be referenced as being Jewish from reliable and independent sources, otherwise the person will be removed. I would greatly appreciate help in this tedious endeavor. Perhaps we can set up a group of persons who take interest in Dutch Judaism, such as Jfdwolff, Metuzajan, Rick86, Daniel575, and me. gidonb (talk) 20:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to provide more names. gidonb (talk) 20:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Continuing the merger

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