Talk:Eve Graham

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message: In the United States, today is 20 April 2018, and Eve Graham is already 75, but the age showing is 74.  Why? 107.185.97.165 (talk) 05:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be one of several reasons. Most likely is your cache needs purging. (On the "page" menu at top right of page next to the "Search Wikipedia" box, 2nd-to-bottom item on that menu is "Purge cache". Pdfpdf (talk) 13:32, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

text: Hmm. It shows 75 for me. I'm afraid I don't know. Pdfpdf (talk) 02:08, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

text: How strange. I've been using df=y for about 10 years without any problems. In Ms Graham's case at the moment, df=y and df=yes both give the same result for me.  I'm puzzled as to why you see different results. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 02:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

text: It's using . The documentation for that template (click on the link) says you can use either df=y or df=yes, and implies they give the same answer. So it looks like there's a bug in the template. That template uses  to calculate the age, and the Age template doesn't use the df= parameter. So again, it looks like there's a bug in the Birth date and age template. It needs a template expert to sort it out. (I'm not a template expert.) Pdfpdf (talk) 15:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

text: Try the last editor user:Johnuniq - it's been changed from a template script to a module on the 31st March. Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:47, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  most likely by changing  to  you forced the server to rebuild the page.  I don't think there is any bug in the page/module.  Frietjes (talk) 17:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. Definitely a cache issue and not a template one. Sometimes the only effective way to purge the cache is to make a null edit (i.e. the PURGE function doesn't work). Primefac (talk) 17:55, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

text: Thanks to all for your help. Pdfpdf (talk) 02:10, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

text: (Ann Peebles' birthday is April 27). Yes there's a problem, but the problem is that you need to purge your cache while you are on the page, and the purge needs to work.  As explained above, in and of itself, changing df=y to df=yes is not what's fixing the problem. What's fixing the problem is making any change to the page, then saving the page, which is then causing the cache to be purged. Yes, wikipedia does have cache purging problems. No, df=y vs df=yes is not the problem. Pdfpdf (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

text: (A more annoying example of caching problems: Many photographs uploaded to wikipedia commons have a large expanse of bitumen in the foreground. When you crop that out, the cropped photo has new dimensions, but the old photo is still cached, so until the cache gets purged, you see the old photo squashed into the new dimensions. Pdfpdf (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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