Talk:Ghost Rider (2007 film)

message: The Dan Ketch references make very little sense for people who don't know the in and outs of this character.  Maybe someone could clarify...
:There's a link to the Ghost Rider comics page, but this page is focused on the film, which is clearly based on something else. someone really wanting the skinny on all of it should go to that page. However, I'll give some effort a go. ThuranX 21:53, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dan Ketch 

message: Didn't Brian Singer direct Daredevil...I'm pretty sure he did...
And if I'm wrong I'm sorry fellow comic fans, don't bash me. I just really thought it was Brian Singer.
:Nope. It was MSJ- Mark Steven Johnson. Originally, he didn't have a drive to direct or write the screenplay for Daredevil. He wanted to make a film on Ghost Rider. But after that proved to be harduous due to CGI limitations of the time, he was approached for an adaption of Daredevil instead. Bryan Singer's Marvel-related films include X-Men and X2, with Superman Returns being his first DC film. Hope that helps.  The Chibi Kiriyama
::Ah my bad. I totally thought it was cuz it had that special "Trailer" and sneak "preview" on the x-men 1.5 (or was it 2) DVD. It kinda led me to believe Singer was responsible for Daredevil. Whoops lol Thanks for clearing it up. --St jimmy86 17:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? That was Singer 

message: can someone drop some blank carriage returns under the plot section so the Cast section will default left again? I don't want to shrink the picture more, but it's throwing off the page. ThuranX 15:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (I did it with regular returns, but if someone else can do it in markup, so as to be more efficient nad cleaner, that'd be great. ThuranX 15:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The page looks fine to me.  Do you still see the same problem? --Erik (talk/contrib) @ 19:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

text: nad cleaner? You need a washcloth there, mate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.49.126 (talk) 03:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  formatting and layout.  

message: I plan to change the Production section into a straightforward section (without any sectioning), but I also plan to create a Design section under which there will be Sound and Visual effects subsections.  If anyone has any issue with this setup, leave a comment here.  I'll probably implement these changes in the coming week. --Erik (talk/contrib) @ 19:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article clean-up 

message: Not mentioned once. Quadzilla99 02:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check that I added that. Quadzilla99 02:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating?

message: This was removed from the article due to a lack of citation: "As Ghost Rider is one of Nicolas Cage's favorite characters, he has a large tattoo of the character on his back, which had to be digitally removed for the film."  If anyone can find a citation for this, please re-add it.  Thanks. Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 18:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tattoo 

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:Citations for use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 14:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations for use 

message: I've finished reading the official novelization and there are numerous differences in how the characters are portrayed in the comics when compared to the film I was thinking that, after the release of the film, that a section detailing any differences between how the characters are portrayed in the film and comics might be appropriate, maybe? Caretaker, for instance, is an extremely obscure character and this link provides some general information about the comic book version, such as his origin and special abilities and all that, as well as a listing of all of his known appearances in Marvel publications.http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/caretr.htm
:The best way to compare and contrast the film adaptation to its comic book origins would be to use reliable sources that point out the differences and similarities between the two.  We can't do it ourselves because this constitutes original research.  We cannot present ourselves as authorities in comparing and contrasting.  I'm sure that when the film debuts, there will be reviews that will analyze how Ghost Rider adapted from the comics to the big screen. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 01:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like somewhere it should be noted that Mephisto from the comic was renamed to Mephistopheles in the movie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.103.30.35 (talk) 04:27, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences 

message: Cartoon Network's Adult Swim block has been promoting the movie with the tag line "Ghost ride the whip", which really has nothing to do with the movie, as apparent by the Ghost ride article; it appears as if the marketing of the movie is just trying to capitalize on a little known meme because of the similar names.
It might be worth adding this to the main article under "Promotions", however I've no reference other than seeing the commercial for the last several days myself. (Which I find annoying given what Ghost Riding and the Hyphy movement are.) 207.138.41.165 04:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ghost Ride the Whip" Commercial 

message: According to the Infobox Film template's syntax guide, "Use: if possible, the exact release date. ("May 18, 2008") Use the first public non-festival release in any country. This means any limited releases or openings before opening wide should go by the limited release date. If multi-country entries are necessary, you can put the flag icon before the release date for each country."  There's no necessity for multi-country entries.  Ghost Rider is an American production and is released there first.  No FA-class film article features secondary release dates on the basis that it was filmed in that country -- filming is done in other parts of the world as well. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 13:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look closer, it states Use the first public non-festival release in any country which is the Australian release. The production company is American owned sure but most of the production was completed in Melbourne and a bit in Vancouver. The Australian release is non-festival and therefore is worthy of infobox mention. Until an Admin decides what is right, I will keep putting it back if you keep reverting. --Lakeyboy 22:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, in reviewing this, I concede the matter.  I was under the impression that it was released in America before the other countries. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 22:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date 

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:Citation for use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 02:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christopher Young 

message: 26% at rotten tomatoes, this needs to be added but since im too lazy to add it but not mention it here (uhh??) feel free to pitch in. Also theres probobly tons more sites giving reviews that have notoriety such as rotten tomatoes but as i dont care... ya enough said. 26%... ouch The Ravager 18:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added it. Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 18:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Critical Reception

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:Citation for use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 16:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for use 

message: I see here on the ghost rider page that its production budget is listed as $120 mil but on boxofficemojo.com, it is listed at $110 mil, which one is correct? - RVDDP2501 22:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose we'll go with $110 million in the meantime.  I thought I saw $120 million somewhere in one of the citations, so I'll have to dig that up and see if it's a more authentic source than Box Office Mojo. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 22:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  production budget? 

message: I know that the Fallen are Abigor, Grissel, and Wallow, but I don't know which name corresponds to which character. Can anybody help me out?
:Abigor is the wind one with the dreadlocks. He has a mini toy out. Dunno which of the others is which. DeathWeed 04:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's Who in the Fallen? 

message: I'm not experianced with wikipedia and don't wish to create problems with the references, but the box office numbers listed are only initial estimates and have not been updated with the final figures. It might not seem to be much of a difference, but the movie actually earned 15.4 million on opening day and 45.4 million for it's 3 day weekend.
I find the same mistake in the box office numbers on the pages for many films. You can find actual numbers at boxofficemojo.com. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.8.221.78 (talk) 14:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box Office figures 

message: Why do editors insist on readding over and over that blackheart's name changes? He describes himself as 'legion' referring to the multitude of souls he now controls, not as a new name for himself. Until someone can cite that this is an actual character change, I think it needs to go. Literary devices and bombastic self-description aren't name changes. ThuranX 05:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legion 

message: I know you guys think it's cool, and I agree, but we can't have an image as the title of the infobox. It wouldn't pass a fair-use review. It's the same font as on the film's poster.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 20:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was actually thinking that it seemed inappropriate and unnecessary for a while now.  Just never got around to kicking it off.  Let's just do that and have a normal title in place. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 20:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: :Image:GhostRiderTeaser.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:GhostRiderTeaser.jpg

message: Anyone in the know enough to actually describe the additional scenes found in the extended cut of the film? 'cause I just watched it, and danged if anything jumped out at me... - 81.157.48.154 15:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended cut 

message: :Image:GhostRiderBigPoster.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:GhostRiderBigPoster.jpg

message: Sorry to interrupt, but I've seen no mention of the obvious exclusions in the Ghost Rider Soundtrack. Two of the most obvious are the cover of "Ghost Riders in the Sky" used in the end titles and the symphonic choir version of "Come All Ye Faithful", played during Johnny Blaze's scene at the train yard,in which he transforms fully into the Ghost Rider.
I think that this is notable, because firstly, it would seem that a number of people were upset about the lack of the Ghost Riders cover, and even more were upset that "Come All Ye Faithful" was not only excluded from the soundtrack, but a fair number had purchased the soundtrack specifically to obtain that piece of music. Apparently, to add insult to injury, the credit for the choir/symphony that performed the piece seems to be non-existent, leaving a camp of music lovers very frustrated. Some reviews have even gone as far as to label the soundtrack as a "rip off... do not buy" on Amazon.com, due to this.
Also, sorry... I didn't realize that I was logged out :P Aces&Eights (talk) 08:49, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack Exclusions 

message: According to SuperHeroHype, the sequel has started shooting. Does the sequel now warrant its own article?--121.212.133.48 (talk) 02:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I created the article and moved the sequel details there. :) Happy editing! Erik (talk | contribs) 19:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spirit of Vengeance 

message: Hi i was wondering if carter slade was or is a ghost from the beginning of the movie or if he just turned into one after helping Johnny?!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.32.146.254 (talk) 11:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carter Slade 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: For no apparent reason this article refers to the later Ghost Rider film as a "reboot" rather than a sequel. This article fails to explain what makes it anything other than a sequel. It doesn't say the filmmakers called the follow up a reboot. If the film makers did call it a reboot that wouldn't even necessarily be a good reason for an encyclopedia article to directly repeat their choice of words. 
Strangely enough the article Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance doesn't use the word reboot at all and there's a source where the writer Goyer specifically saying the other Ghost rider film is not a reboot. 
I'm going to change the incorrect information. This is not a bold change, it is correcting inaccurate information that somehow has been overlooked. -- 109.76.217.1 (talk) 20:26, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Any claims that it a "stand alone sequel" or any other type of sequel are not only irrelevant to this article, but also not sourced. -- 109.79.92.144 (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel 

message: In 2018 Nicholas Cage commented that Ghost Rider should have been R-rated and that was the original intention of the script from Goyer. The quote was short, too short and not enough context that I could add it under critical response. (Various places repeated the quote, some adding clickbait headlines such as "Nicolas Cage isn’t a fan of his Ghost Rider movies either but we cannot and should not make such assumptions.) It would be better if the Production section could mention that it was originally intended as an R-rated film, but to do that I think I need a better source, probably something from Goyer. -- 109.79.92.144 (talk) 14:16, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicholas Cage 

message: I think that it is worth noting here that there are several websites, supposedly authoritative, that make the claim in a summary of the plot that "Johnny is charged by Mephistopheles (Donal Logue) ".  As the summary has very few if any differences from one site to the next, it's likely that they have used the same source.
The claim is, of course, incorrect.  The role of Mephistopheles was taken by Peter Fonda.  Donal Logue was "Mack".  This article has the correct information.  I trust that nobody will be inclined to change that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EA01:1090:A0BB:6DC8:9789:AD77 (talk) 03:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources with incorrect information about the role of Mephistopheles 

message: Since at least 2017 the article included an unsourced claim that "IGN named the film the worst comic book film of the decade" but no source was included. This sounded unlikely but I was able to find a source and it turns out GR was only 7th on IGN's list of the 10 worst of the decade. I'm not sure that is even worth noting. I would suggest that any it is not worth including this or any other "worst of list" where it isn't at least in the top 3. If no one objects I will remove it from the article (eventually, unless someone else does it first). -- 109.76.153.121 (talk) 02:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Worst lists