Talk:Power Rangers/Archive 1

message: We know that there are variations between the series. It is useless and counterproductive to list every single variation between series in the Trivia section. In light of this I have created a Variations section, listing what varies and avoiding the "which series did what" annoyance. XPeeple 23:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Enough Lists Already!

message: The choices of major characters that were included were very arbitrary. Bear in mind that there is a catagory of Power Rangers characters, and the characters are linked to from the individual series pages. There is no need to list either a random list (which would be pointless) or a comprehensive list (which would occupy too much space) here. -- Supermorff
If you feel that strongly, you can remove it... kelvSYC 02:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Characters 

message: Kudos to whoever wrote the Plot Sequence section. Very funny and well-written. --Doug teh H-Nut, 3:40 PM, May 16, 2005 (EST)
Agreed.  I tried to play with the format but I couldn't improve it.  Sorry for all of the edits. 05:03, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Sequence 

message: Someone has added a table containing the names and positions of all previous serving Power Rangers. I have removed it. This is a pointless waste. Other articles are available (which perhaps should be linked to) containing lists of characters. This table contained links to irrelevant articles (the article Sam being one example), and all but two links as to the positions of the Rangers went nowhere (the other two went to the wrong articles). Supermorff 19:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Rangers 

message: Just my two cents, but the newer version seems far more complete, and also does a considerable amount of cleaning up over the older version.  Keep the newer version in place.  Schuminweb 02:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two cents on dispute over the two versions 

message: Okay, now that the one dispute is over (resolution is to not include a comprehensive list of Rangers on this page), we can get started on our next one. Yay. I personally feel that we could find a better place - and a better format - for the Morphing calls section. A seperate article might be appropriate (perhaps even on Wikiquote, considering that's what they are), or maybe we should seperate them and include them in the seperate incarnation articles. Also, someone has added a link to a new Power Ranger page, which I think we could do without. -- Supermorff 15:05, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Morphin calls

message: You know, everytime I look at this page here is always vandilism going on or somebody cleaing it up. Why is this page the most vandilised page on wikipedia?
I know, this is ridculous, i say we either insert the "contrisual" tag the article or partly-lock the page so anon vandals can't edit. -Dynamo_ace Talk
The Power Rangers fandom is widespread and easily creates addicts out of fans. As the series changes annually, there is a constant inflow of information, which the more obsessive fans will try to insert into any resource they deem acceptable (read: anyone who will listen). This article is like a hydra--for every useless section you cut out, two more take its place. Look at the current, limitlessly useless "List of Power Rangers series" section. -XPeeple
haha i think you mean "vandalised" Plebmonk 22:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandilism

message: Is it just me, or does this artical seem to say that Power Rangesr is nothing more than a show to sell the toys? I am sure everyone knows that it is inaccurate, but should't that part of the artical be changed?
Re: Toys, toy revenues have been the main reason for Power Rangers' longevity. The show's Neilsen ratings are currently terrible, so it is unable to generate the TV advertising revenues that it was able to a decade ago--the show is not the main focus of the franchise, and the toy sales are the most lucrative aspect. It would not entirely inaccurate to say that the show only exists to sell toys now, but that implication is nowhere in the article.
Re: Re: Toys - "the franchise is headlined by similarly self-replicating television series, and is directly tied to the vast merchandising empire owned largely by Japanese toy company Bandai."
No implication there then, no sirree.--Linear 18:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Toys

message: I can understand why Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, and Masked (Kamen) Rider are in this list, but why is there a link to Digimon Frontier?  It has little to absolutely nothing to do with the Power Rangers universe.  Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, and Masked Rider are at least other series that have footage from Japanese tokusatsu and are in a similar format.  Digimon can only be linked because of Bandai and Saban, but that was fairly early on. Ryulong 20:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "See Also" List 

message: Took out minor reference (unilaterally, I guess) to team-ups possibly being out of continuity. This has never been insinuated on the show, and I think unnecessarily confusing. --Mikntosh 04:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continuity 

message: Please do not use "blue" as a color for the Blue Rangers.  The text is difficult to read against the background.  Use "lightblue" instead. Andros 1337 19:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done some changes to this, making it cyan in cases of Blue Rangers, the green identified by #00FF00 for Green Rangers, magenta for Pink Rangers, and black with white text for Black Rangers (the Gold Zeo Ranger has yellow text instead). Ryulong 04:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did what was for black rangers with blue rangers (except for the two female blue rangers, as the cyan is closer to what they wore).  Blue Ranger entries on these tables are now normal blue with white text. Ryulong 02:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colors for Rangers on articles 

message: I have decided to start a vote on how the order of the Rangers should be on each article.
::Vote either *Power Rangers rank or *Super Sentai number followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with ~~~~
* I vote Power Rangers rank for the following reasons: The numbers on the zords/costumes are Sentai determined, and generally does not correspond to the status of the of a Ranger in Power Rangers.  T.J. was obviously ranked higher than Carlos in Power Rangers In Space, and in Power Rangers Mystic Force, both Xander and Vida (and possibly even Madison) are ranked higher than Chip.  Rangercentral uses a similar convention, therefore Wikipedia should use Rangercentral as a model. Andros 1337 22:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote: Order of Rangers in articles 

message: In a little boredom, I made a navigational box for the various Zord articles, which can be seen here. I just randomly chose colors, because it looked very bland with the default light blue and white. It would be great if someone could fix the template to make it look better. Ryulong 07:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zord Template 

message: Could someone more familiar with power rangers (I haven't watched since Lightspeed Rescue, I think) add the categories :Category:Black superheroes, :Category:Extraterrestrial superheroes, :Category:Extraterrestrial supervillains, :Category:Fictional psychokineticists and others to the appropriate characters? It would improve the database of these characters immensely, thanks. Zythe 00:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take care of the first three, but I don't recall how many other telekinetics there were other than Andros to handle the last one. Arrow 04:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind; seems someone was a lot faster than me. Arrow 04:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if there were any other psychokineticists. Unless the Mystic Force Rangers count as they magically control elements. Ryulong 05:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about: :Category:Fictional elementals, :Category:Fictional aerokineticists, :Category:Fictional cryokineticists, :Category:Fictional electrokineticists, :Category:Fictional geokineticists, :Category:Fictional hydrokineticists and :Category:Fictional pyrokineticists? Zythe 12:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, the Mystic Force Rangers don't have their own pages yet. So, I think "Fictional elementals" may suffice for them. Ryulong 19:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I've been working on adding :Category:Fictional teleporters and :Category:Superheroes (applies to all who aren't extraterrestrial superheroes, etc.) to a bunch. Zythe 21:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories for characters 

message: It appears that an editor has something against Ranger Central, as the editor has repeated addition of "Ranger Central has bad words" on it. I've been reverting the changes, as I don't really believe what he is saying.  His most recent edit is here. Ryulong 19:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bad words" vandal 

message: We need to stick to one and one only and it needs to be "seasons". Power Rangers is shown on American television and despite the fact it changes themes and casts, each year is a new season. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Plus, seasons are the official stance of both Saban and Disney. They both look at each year as a new season, not series. The series is "Power Rangers" not "Power Rangers: insert subtitle". Though when talking about Mighty Morphin as a whole, it should be called either by its name or by calling it an incarnation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerKing (talk • contribs) 
:First of all, new comments go at the bottom of a talk page. Second, my comments: The series "Power Rangers" is more of a franchise, and each different incarnation is its own series within the franchise. The first three seasons are in one series title, and each successive season has had a different title, and could be called a series. When in television line ups, the show isn't called "Power Rangers", it's called "Power Rangers: [Insert sub title]". The different Doctor Who television series are dealt as separate series, even though they share the same title. The Super Sentai series that Power Rangers is based on also is separated by series, and not seasons. Each adaptation into English is a separate series, in my eyes. Ryulong 02:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A note on Super Sentai: Actually, each separate series are treated as part of the larger series. A superseries and thirty subseries, if you will. Ryulong 02:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. Each series is produced as a seperate television show that happens to be part of a larger franchise, not different season of the same show.--SB | T 02:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: However, that's not the official stance by the company. The official stance by Disney as well as BanDai is that each year is a season. That's the official way of looking at it and, technically, the right way. You don't base things on our own opinions or what the source material does/did. Plus this is Wikipedia which is supposed to provide neutral, accurate, and official information aside from personal bias or opinion. So, if Disney says each year is a season (and they count each season accurately with the count of 14) than that's what this page needs to reflect.--RangerKing 16:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with RangerKing here and I prefer that nomenclature anyways.  I especially agree because people who aren't as familiar with PR as it is after the first few incarnations will probably get confused by using 'series', whereas everyone will clearly know what's being referred to with 'seasons'.  However, I'd also want to see proof that this is how Disney and/or Bandai works; a link to some sort of press release or document by them would be all that's really necessary for convincing me. Arrow 22:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only knowledge I have of a press release is one that's linked on the Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive article. It says, "Next year's theme will be called Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive" . Not series or season. Ryulong 23:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: And that sources is from the licensing department of Disney who deals merchandise and nothing more. While the production team actually works with production codes. The show has consistant production numbers like S.P.D. is the 13th season and the first two digits of an epsiode's number is 13 followed by the episode number of that episode. Example: Beginnings Pt. 1 would be 1301. (Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20050310103719/www.powerrangers-info.com/Publicity-News-2005-TDDFPRSPDE15.html). The production codes released by Disney is the best information and not formal press releases because they have been incorrect even with episode numbers.--RangerKing 01:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Series Vs Seasons

message: Why was the main "Power Rangers" page restored to an early version of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerKing (talk • contribs) 
:Because you removed content without any sort of rationale behind it, specifically links and WP formatting for tables. Ryulong 22:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually all I removed was a few links because I felt like those resources weren't up to par if someone wanted more information about "Power Rangers", espcially "1Ranger.com" and "Jen's whatever it was" which were either inadequet or very old. I actually accidently formatted one table to add the generic Power Rangers logo at the top of it, but I messed it up.--RangerKing 00:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Restoration to Earlier Version?

message: Recently I posted some information about the spin-off that was proposed for Bulk and Skull that being done around Turbo, which explained their actors removal from the show and when that failed they had to return to their regular roles. Why was this removed? Was it because it sounded wild? If you need proof, you can find it here: http://www.awwman.com/nps/. That website has an audio interview with Paul Schrier (Bulk) where he talks about the proposed spin-off.--RangerKing 01:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It did sound a little too strange. Perhaps you can make a note of this supposed spin-off on the Turbo article in the trivia section, as it would probably fit better there. Ryūlóng 01:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Why should it go there when the Masked Rider information isn't solely in the Mighty Morphin' page? --RangerKing 04:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it went through and it doesn't explain anything such as the disappearance of Narvy and Schrier for an entire series/season? Ryūlóng 04:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually it did, they were busy doing pre-production work which Narvy and Schrier was obviosly pretty involved in. And it was only for half a season they were even gone for.--RangerKing 06:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not exactly what I meant. The Masked Rider turned into a full series and was aired. The Bulk and Skull proposed spin-off that only went through the bulk of pre-production could be used on the Turbo trivia section to explain why they were turned into Chimpanzees and be explained in full either there or in Bulk and Skull's article. There could be a mention on in the main Power Rangers trivia section, linking to the mention of the spin-off in either the Turbo trivia or a new section at their article. Ryūlóng 06:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: RangerKing, please note that this article is a general overview of the entire franchise, not a dumping ground for every factoid about everything -- we have articles on every series, numerous characters, and so on, where most things that would be classified as "trivia" are more appropriate. In addition, it seems to me, based on Ryulong's edit summary  that it was removed because it lacked a citation. You have provided that, but please remember to do that in the article itself, when you add information. In any case, when I saw the edit, I agreed with it, because the detail is more appropriate for Bulk and Skull, where it already is. (I added a citation because I had recalled hearing it.) Thanks.--SB | T 07:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin-Off Information 

message: I'm sorry, when was it established that Alien Rangers was more than a miniseries? Zero X Marquis 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was established the same time that people started arguing over whether Super Sentai was better than Power Rangers and vice versa. To cut it short, some people are idiots. Ryūlóng 19:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers had its own intro that featured Kakuranger footage as well as an altered theme song singing "Go Go Alien Rangers", and it only lasted ten episodes. I would think that's a separate series/season/miniseries/miniseason. If anything, it is considered separate by the fanon. Ryūlóng 20:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: However, I do not believe that Alien Rangers is mentioned as being its own series. I believe it is mentioned as being a mini-series. It had a radically different storyline than the third season of MMPR, an entirely new team of Rangers, a different name, a new cast of characters, and new Ranger suits (the Kakuranger footage was not used in the opening, perse, but mainly for when the Alien Rangers did battle). If anything, it can be called a glorified story arc because it was given its own (altered) theme song and title. However, since it did have its own separate name, it is considered separate from the other series (The Alien Rangers even came back in Zeo as the Super Sentai teams do in their "Vs." specials). Ryūlóng 20:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The name shown in the opening sequence was "Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers." There was a massive re-casting, as new actors had to be found to play the younger versions of the previous Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The Alien Rangers and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers were never seen together on screen in costume. The Alien Rangers had their own Zords (although shared the Shogunzords). The storyline of Alien Rangers was substantially different from MMPR. Even if Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers was not its own series, it was certainly its own story arc or mini-series. Ryūlóng 07:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: But, if this conversation is actually about the inclusion of Alien Rangers as a "series" in the template and/or the infobox on this article, then it is placed there for continuity issues. As you can see at the Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers article, it is specifically stated as a "mini-series". Ryūlóng 07:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: But I just stated that it is listed in the infobox and template as a "series" for continuity. If it was listed separately as a mini-series in the table, that would take away from the continuity the table if it would be helpful for this debate, then perhaps "TV series" can be changed to "television". Ryūlóng 19:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alien Rangers 

message: The repetiviness of the show. Seriously, i watched like 15th season for nostaglia and the shows formulae is like identical to what i used to watch when i was little. I was bored within 5 minutes.
:Yeah, but that's true by its design, especially after Countdown to Destruction (arguably at various points prior). The show isn't meant to entertain the same audience for 15 years, its a show that's meant for kids and entertain them for a season. The producers know that they have to keep it changing, as in the chararcters, look, toys, but keep most of it constant as it uses footage from a Japanese show that changes every year... and the last time they tried to extend the life of one of those shows (the original Power Rangers to us) the rating fell, and they fell hard. To criticize the show for staying the same over the years would be like giving it to Sesame Street; its inherent by its design, and is completely forgivable (ie, irrelevent) to critcisms. Zero X Marquis 15:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  You should seriously consider for criticisms' 

message: How can you state: "Contrary to wild Internet speculation, there have never been plans for a third Power Rangers movie, likely due to Turbo's box office failure." without proving any sources yourselves? Atleast the link I provided gave some valid information, your's doesn't. The Fandom has a right to know that there were possible plans to make a third movie, but they never got off the ground because of outside events. There was speculation during SPD or DT, if I'm not mistaken of a movie possibly, where's any info on that? You can't just go stating what I quoted above without, any backup. Do we know that it was Turbo's fault another PR movie wasn't made? I'd like to see evidence of that. Just because a movie didn't do well at the box office doesn't lead to another movie not being made. For all we know Saban and FOX, might not have felt like investing more money into motion pictures feeling the the TV show was much more profitable than a movie. So you can't go saying stuff like "Contrary to wild Internet speculation, there have never been plans for a third Power Rangers movie, likely due to Turbo's box office failure". Where's the "wild" come from is what I'd like to know too? El Greco 01:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your source was a livejournal posting, which is not a reliable source. The sentence can be reworded, though. Ryūlóng 01:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Or removed completely. Ryūlóng 01:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: However, you can't exactly prove a source, this is actually a source. This person's livejournal, if it is who I believe it is, would be privy to that kind ofinformation as to whether or not a third movie was planned.RangerKing 16:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Where the hell do you get this stuff? Ryūlóng 23:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Third Movie

message: Have 5 releases been confirmed for PRMF yet? Last I heard, there might only be 3 this year. Regardless, at this point, unless they have been announced, that line should probably be editted/removed. JPG-GR 07:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then be BOLD. Ryūlóng 07:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gladly, but didn't want to make an edit which turned out to be wrong due to my own misremembering.JPG-GR 17:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD Releases 

message: Power Rangers Super Legend??!!?!?!?
the rangerboard thread:
and if you try powerrangerssuperlegends.com it takes you to the jetix site
buena vista also has rights to the name
:The domain for Relic Hunters originally forwarded to Jetix, so that's not proof for anything.  I suppose Toei could've told Disney what they were planning for 2007; it's within Disney's rights to ask.  But since we know practically nothing about this at the moment, like whether that's Sentai 07/PR 08 or what, there's not much point in carrying a discussion on it right now. Arrow 20:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Rangers Super Legend??!!?!?!? 

message: I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 17:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, several of them are not violations of WP:EL. Unless it changed, then the Message boards that are linked here are perfectly fine, as they have been around for several years and have a significant amount of posts. And those are links that should "normally be avoided". Not "Remove on sight".Ryūlóng 20:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: They are forums that have been on this page for much longer than you think. They have relevance. Please stop removing them. Ryūlóng 04:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links/Message Boards 

message: How come there is virtually no information on this episode other than summary? I'd like to know what fight scene was deleted.
:For information on the Pilot Episode, I would check Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The article Power Rangers is about every series/season in the franchise and covers information relating to all of the series as a whole, not individual series. Ryūlóng 23:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pilot Episode