Talk:.NET Framework/Archive 2

message: I propose to move the BCLTeam's WebLog link under Other to Microsoft External links since the BCL team are all Microsoft employees. Comments anyone?
--CSharp-Online.NET Editor 20:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BCLTeam's WebLog link relocation

message: I propose to remove codeproject.com from the Other links. It has 110 links on Wikipedia raising the issues of advertising, promotion, spamming, and just plain over-linking. Comments anyone?
--CSharp-Online.NET Editor 20:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that your proposal to remove codeproject.com is a result of you having your link removed. That may not be the case, however it appears to be a bad faith suggestion. Your coments here and edit summary here. Just because it has 110 links, does not necessarily mean it was spammed. there are some links on Wikipedia that are in the thousands, however they are WP:RS and were placed in good faith over a long period of time by seasoned editors. I assume you're here to improve Wikipedia, not to promote your site.  based on your contributions it does seem you may have an adgenda other than to improve the encyclopedia. I'll make a friendly suggestion that you stop canvasing for removal of a compeating site--Hu12 10:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Just as peachy as someone who can't use capital letters or sign their comments... :) -Localzuk(talk) 19:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  codeproject.com link removal 

message: What is the native language Windows Vista speaks? Is every call to the Win32 API translated to .NET or does .NET wrap its calls to Win32 API? What's the system's base layer? I can't imagine that .NET can ever be a system's native language because it's too far away from the machine. Isn't this the crucial problem with .NET (as well as with Java)? -RumBug 217.50.135.142 16:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, the kernel is all natively compiled (from C/ASM I think).  I've heard rumours that some parts of the userland code are written in .NET. --Stestagg 16:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

text: As far as I understand it Vista contains no .NET code other than the framework which comes installed with it. Vista is C with C++. RobChafer 00:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new question 

message: I think we should drop the .net vs com section. It has very little content, and it isn't even a valid comparison really. COM was not replaced by .net wholesale, but by several technoles, including web services, remoting, assemblies, WCF/Indigo, etc.  If it isn't dropped, it needs to be radically expanded to encompass explaining all of these other technologies, which I don't think is appropriate for this article. Gaijin42 18:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - it should be dropped.  Leotohill 19:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I strongly agree, too. And in fact, COM was never dropped, only extended. You still have to know your IUnknown if you want to code certain things in native WinAPI. After all, I don't see how .NET can be compared to COM in any aspect. COM is a quite refined technique of object programming while .NET is an over-sized virtual machine designed for people who don't have the time to know the operating system (or who hope that .NET will are really be platform-independent). RumBug 217.50.135.142 16:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree, .NET relies heavily on COM for its implimentation (on Windows anyway). RobChafer 00:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drop .net vs com

message: I've just posted the article at the Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive#.NET Framework. Please add your votes there. I've also created the to-do list here Talk:.NET Framework/to do which you can update and edit. -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 11:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Actions needed

message: I have been given this as a project to reseach (Application Architecture for .NETApplications and Services focusing on Security, Operational Management and Communications Policies) Please help me out any one.
Tshepiso Mogoswane
mrmogoswane@yahoo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 41.244.209.221 (talk) 08:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Application Architecture for .NETApplications and Services  

message: .NET 1.0 - the release date is different in the text and in the table - it probably needs fixing. mfx Q&A 13:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date 

message: Someone might want to find a place to mention that the files for each framework are found in <windows directory>\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v<version> (ie, ...\v2.0.50727). Stevage 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Directory 

message: It appears the .NET Framework doesn't support Mobile at all?  I'm not speaking from practice, but rather wikipedia would lead one to believe such.  I was trying to setup .NET_Mobile_Profile but I can't find anything.  Is it the current Microsoft Mobile Technology?  This article only had this to say on the subject:
"
Changes since 1.0
    * Built-in support for mobile ASP.NET controls. Previously available as an add-on for .NET Framework, now part of the framework.
"
Mathiastck 06:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mobile]] 

message: I am missing mention of Microsoft's "Rotor" project in the article. Rotor is a shared source implementation of .NET released by Microsoft themselfes that compiles on Windows and on FreeBSD-compatible systems.
http://research.microsoft.com/programs/europe/rotor/
The code can be freely downloaded (without signing an NDA) and you are allowed to use it for learning on how to create your own implementation of an ECMA-Standards compliant .NET compiler + runtime. To my knowledge, this has been available even before the Mono project was launched.
In this context, the following phrase in the article seems wrong:
:Microsoft's reference implementation of .NET is closed source, whereas Sun's reference implementation of Java is becoming open source (including the class library, the compiler, the virtual machine, and the various tools associated with the Java Platform).
85.25.133.66 08:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention of "Rotor" Project 

message: Does Net framework connect to "Live" and Windows Live ID, and how? David1776 12:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows Live ID 

message: The article currently says, "Two assemblies with the same public key token are guaranteed to be identical."
I don't know what specific techniques are being used with assemblies, so that claim may be true.
However, cryptographic hashes typically don't guarantee that distinct inputs result in distinct hashes.  Rather they have the property that it is computationally hard to find another input that results in the same hash as a given input.  This implies that it is in some sense rare for distinct inputs to result in the same hash, but NOT that it is guaranteed not to happen.  (In particular, if the space of tokens were finite and the space of assemblies were larger, then there would necessarily be collisions.)  Is that a more accurate description of what is going on with these assembly tokens?
MarkAb 02:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking that myself; to guarantee they're identical would take a cryptographic hash the same size as the file. I don't know the full details here either, but perhaps it should be changed to something like 'Creating two different files with the same hash is computationally infeasible.' Mark Grant 23:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cryptographic guarantee? 

message: Here are articles about upcoming features, indexed here for reference when someone will want to update the article: PLINQ, TPL. --soum talk 15:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  .NET Future features