Talk:Jefferson disk

message: The link to "cipher system" now points to a Swedish melodic death metal band.  I don't think that's what's desired.129.42.208.183 (talk) 18:16, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cipher System 

message: I don't think the two articles need to be merged.  There's a small amount of duplication but space is not short. The two articles are adequately linked so that anyone reading one and interested in the other can easily find it. --Wtshymanski 03:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, both articles are describing the exact same topic — a merge seems necessary. — Matt Crypto 10:16, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Someone who feels more bold than I can merge them. The Bazeries cylinder article is a little on the long side, but I suppose the short paragraph that uniquely describes the Jefferson invention wouldn't hurt it.  If it's merged, I think that the photo must also be moved. --Wtshymanski 16:46, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: But aren't they the same machine? We don't keep seperate articles simply to "honour" people. — Matt Crypto 18:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I also completely agree and I have changed it :) Logan5671111TalkLogan5671111#0001 17:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion 

message: I've removed the Wikipedia Commons link as there wasn't a page there and the only search result for "Jefferson Disk" on Commons was the image that's already on the page. Jobarts-Talk 23:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Commons link

message: Is there any need to have 'heilhitler' be the message to be decoded? I tracked down the history of it, and it seems to be a remnant from the original initial Bazeries cylinder page (now a redirect), merged into this title and apparently imported from some unnamed 'public domain source.' I don't feel there's any reason to keep the code there. TJEFFERSON would be perfectly fine I think.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJansen (talk • contribs) 01:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree. I'm a teacher at a german school and right now we're talking about different cypher methods. I couldn't explain that Hitler-reference to the student who found this. That's plain unnecessary since Jefferson has a complete different background and time of life. Mana (talk) 12:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi Reference 

message: This article is riddled with an awkward present tense voice, and cast in terms of "and then Holmes does this, and then Holmes does that". 
It's awkward and distracting. We can do better. This is largely a stylistic point and so need not be repaired instantly, but is less than good work. WP should be better served. 
I will add it to my list, but doubt if I will be able to get to it. ww (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor writing

message: A device similar to, but more advanced than, that of TJ was designed in Sweden by Fredrik Gripenstierna in 1786.
Since the Jefferson cylinder was never constructed precedence might also be given to Gottfried Leibniz who designed a machine c1670 that had some similar features. AnnaComnemna (talk) 19:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Precedence of European designs. 

message: Even Jefferson failed to recognize the brilliance of his invention; he praised the Playfair cipher to its inventor, disparaging his own effort.
While his description involved a wooden version, the WWI version was made of metal, considerably smaller, and easier to carry and hide.
See "Codebreakers" by David Kahn.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky Vassall (talk • contribs) 19:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further information on the Jefferson disk