Talk:Hull and Barnsley Railway

message: Would that they could spell it "grammar"--SilasW (talk) 20:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in grammer 

message: Users may be interested to note that the bridge will be receiving major work on the May Day weekend... (80.193.99.43 (talk) 11:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  River Hull Swing Bridge HJS/22 

message: The article and the line diagram are H&BR, but at least two features are post-H&BR, the Spring Bank West connection into Paragon and Boothferry Park station.
Should the map show them? Are icons in another colour needed to show
track and stations built after a featured company closed.--SilasW (talk) 10:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggest that you clarify this in the article as this seems a suitable article to mention these links rather than by creating separate articles for them. I will leave others to comment on the diagram colours and how to handle the situation there. Keith D (talk) 00:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've noted the two points on the line diagram whose waggles near Hull I straightened and made it a called in template rather than inline coding. The line, the pride of the Corporation when built, has a truly sad number of stations sans WP article and the article is singularly deficient in dates--SilasW (talk) 17:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later features shown on line diagram 

message: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought the recent work was carried out by GrantRail. I've removed this link VolkerRail Ltd.
https://www.jobs-in-rail.co.uk/jobseekers/latest_news/?ID=192 "GrantRail Projects Division, as the Principal Contractor, will be supported by sister companies GrantRail Signalling and Fitzpatrick Contractors Ltd"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.232.187 (talk) 21:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The work is on going - it was started while we were GrantRail but we're now VolkerRail so I think the link to VolkerRail should really remain as that's where any up to date information will be published as a result of the work. Trust me on this one, I work for VolkerRail! Zozzie 9t9 (talk) 08:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Volkerail ?

message: eg see this image http://d240vprofozpi.cloudfront.net/co/HBR/hbr_map.png The image (bottom right) expansion - seems to slightly over expand the size - in reality its ~ same size as sculcoates goods, but for a different purpose.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.232.187 (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Springbank sidings

message: Could someone correct the chaotic timing in this?
"The Hull Docks branch was upgraded [in] 2007-2009 to .... . The work is being undertaken by .... and included the re-instatement ....  ..... The completed works were opened in June 2008 by the transport minister ...."--SilasW (talk) 08:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Could someone correct the chaotic timing in this?" All of the above is correct - the upgrading was undertaken between 2007 and 2009. Work is still taking place on site however - small jobs such as stressing and snagging works are still on going. And the transport minister did indeed 'open' the enhancements last year! Zozzie 9t9 (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Then the article, in an encyclopedia and not a collection of jottings no matter how true, should make that plain.--SilasW (talk) 15:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenses 

message: When it functioned was the H&B station officially "Cannon Street" or "Hull Cannon Street" which is sometimes used nowadays? A similar question applies to Paragon station with the further complication that "Hull Paragon railway station" redirects to "Hull Paragon Interchange". Is that an official name or another example of the isolated city's pride which led to constructing the all-but-vanished H&BR?--SilasW (talk) 14:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hull Paragon station was changed to Hull Paragon Interchange when the new interchange with the bus station opened on 16 September 2007. Keith D (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for that information about Paragon though information about the H&B seems rather sparse.--SilasW (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that information is sparse and it only gets mentioned in passing but I have tracked down the following which may be useful in building the article if you can get hold of it. HULL & BARNSLEY RAILWAY - RAILWAY MEMORIES NO. 12 1st Edition - 1999  Published by Bellcode Books. I think the author is Stephen Chapman. Keith D (talk) 21:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidently, Network Rail official correspondance still refers to Hull Paragon Station, at least a letter dated 14th January 2011 did - none of this interchange rubbish! Zozzie 9t9 (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I see KuH libraries have about 6 titles for H&B (most with multle copies). My search on B's libraries for "Hull & Barnsley" got 200 assorted railway books. I might try the interlibrary scheme or renew my British Library ticket. 1st ed 1999 suggests rather long memories!--SilasW (talk) 16:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be better off at Barnsley library at the moment as the Hull Local Studies collection is closed for the year while they prepare to move it to the new history centre that is being built. Unless the titles are in the normal stock you will not get them. Keith D (talk) 18:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hull station names 

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*Drax to Drax abbey - two stations - think I got the right one - former station not part of currently operated line
*Changed selby to hull line (ie Hull to York line) crossing to under not over - think this is right - problem that it doesn't really exist now.. Does anyone know if it went over or under?
*Complicated but - the line cross the selby to goole and terminates immediately - but the selby to goole doesn't exist anymore, Part  of the drax run-around is on that line. There seems to be a short siding off the drax loop that crosses the former selby to goole.
Also BP saltend - no longer served ? As far as I know the tracks now end around hull docks, the branch that used to serve BP saltend now terminates the docks side of the separating drain at some scrap metal loading facility.Shortfatlad (talk) 19:37, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Route diagram minor changes

message: The article seems to have roughly equal numbers of "Weedly Tunnel"s and "Weedley Tunnel"s. Some explanation is needed. Was the bore's name spelt variously by officialdom?--SilasW (talk) 10:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A check of the relevant 1:25 000 Ordnance Survey map shows that the railway ran along Weedley Dale between the tunnel in question () and the next one to the east (). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As you found, current OS has an "e" but what did the railway companies call it? There are several place spellings where a railway used another spelling (mainly in use or dropping of apostrophes) and there places whose spelling has changed, (often to match local pronunciation - Wyrardisbury to Wraysbury)--SilasW (talk) 15:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weedl?y Tunnel 

message: There is a section that says:
"In Hull the bridge over the NER main line at Hessle road was removed in 1962 as part of a scheme to reduce the number of level crossings in Hull - at this time the elevated section became connected to the Hull to Selby line at Hessle road junction."
Removing a bridge reduces number of level crossings?
I suppose I can see what is meant, but could someone who knows the background improve this explanation?
Afterbrunel (talk) 18:53, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: temporary fix  Sf5xeplus (talk) 20:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

text: does this make better sense? 83.100.230.57 (talk) 20:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

text: also I'm not sure if "electric staff working" was used - I understand that a form of tokenised working was used after 1992 (using staffs and not discs/keys etc) - but not sure if it was electric - if you've got a reference for that please add it thanks. On the other hand if you are sure it was electric staff but don't have a book reference for it please say so, and I can add a note about it. Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 23:48, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: late answer - it was divisible staff working up to at least 2007 see   both pages 6. Sf5xeplus (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing logic 

message: The map shows a short branch line owned by Hull& Barnsley Railway Company to a passenger terminal station at Stairfoot. I am unable to find any further information on this. Can you confirm this is correct.? (Steamybrian2 (talk) 20:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Stairfoot

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message: To a degree covered above about four years ago bu the current rendering is daft.  Big white spaces.  Its currently down on my hitlist as a rework to match something like North Staffordshire Railway as  seems to suggest at #Infoxbox above.  If I fail to do a reasonable job then note what the problems is and improve/revert.  My mindset is simply mess ... sort.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:05, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Refactor

message: This may just be me, but I can't find an opening date for the line.
The narrative style as a whole is a bit eccentric, isn't it?
And what's a "plate side"? The majority (eighty eight) of the bridges were of plate girder construction with usually three plate sides (one central) supporting cross-beams on which the track was supported. Does this mean three plate main beams? Girders, if you prefer. Maybe that's just a transcription error from the original article. Afterbrunel (talk) 19:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening date