Talk:Rugby union/Archive 2

message: Got a feeling we might be factually incorrect here. From the article "The players are also allowed to throw the ball from player to player, but unlike American football they are not allowed to throw it forwards; ie the ball must only go sideways or backwards." I'm almost certain that the law regarding this was changed from a forward pass being illegal, to anything but a pass going backwards being illegal. Can someone check this and provide a source? It's a pretty fundamental thing to get wrong. Alexj2002 22:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You aren't allowed to propel the ball forward with any part of your body other than the foot. The ball must leave your hands in a sideways or backwards direction. Some people talk about a momentum rule but to my knowledge this is an invention of the media.GordyB 22:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Just wanted to clarify something about American football: You can only throw the ball forward if you are behind the line of scrimmage (the line where the ball is placed before each play). Otherwise, the forward pass rule in rugby is identical to American football-- you are only allowed to throw it sideways or behind, and this is called a "lateral." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.147.253 (talk • contribs) 
From the IRB laws at http://www.irb.com/NR/rdonlyres/5FB8A13C-0ECD-49D6-8366-160AA8CA38B8/0/060704LGLAWSEN_00_Complete.pdf - "DEFINITION THROW FORWARD A throw forward occurs when a player throws or passes the ball forward. ‘Forward’ means towards the opposing team’s dead ball line."
No mention of momentum at all - sorry Michael Lynagh. The ball either moves toward the opponents' goal line or it doesn't. Sideways is fine.
GordyB, as far as I can find in the laws, there isn't any mention of not being "allowed to propel the ball forward with any part of your body other than the foot", or not being allowed to head the ball forward, for example. The laws define a kick as "made by hitting the ball with any part of the leg or foot, except the heel, from the toe to the knee but not including the knee; a kick must move the ball a visible distance out of the hand, or along the ground."
Hippo43 12:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Re-reading the laws I find that you can head the ball (I knew that) but the rules don't seem to forbid you from heading forwards which surprises me. You are also allowed 'rebounds' with the ball hitting your chest or shoulder and going forwards (and blocked kicks too), I can't see anything that specifically forbids deliberately chesting the ball as footballers sometimes do but I wouldn't be surprised if it was ruled a knock-on.GordyB 12:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Forward Pass

message: What is up with all these links? Who selected the list of clubs? Its pretty weird, we need to sort out the list and maintain it. Cvene64 08:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: I've submitted All Blacks article for a peer-review, please go to WP:PR and leave comments if people suggest improvements. This is important if we want to get this article to FA status. - Shudda talk 01:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[All Blacks]] Peer review

message: I have requested this article be peer reviewed by Wikiproject Rugby union. Please add your comments here. Thanks. - Shudda talk 23:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review