Talk:Index of language articles

message: I'm adding Kachin to the list --- it's spoken by the Kachin hill people in northern Burma. Read Shelby Tucker's "Among Insurgents: Walking Through Burma" for info. It's great. --BrentDanzig 06:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just thought it looked better that way. I don't mind if it gets reverted, though... كسيپ Cyp 16:41 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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I edited the article for two reasons:
# "Bayern" means "Bavaria", not "Bavarian"
# as Timwi & كسيپ Cyp note above, we're putting English names, at least on this page.
(But for the record, in Bavarian, "Bairisch" means "Bavarian language or dialect"; in German, "Bayerisch" could be used to mean the same.) --Jerzy 16:21, 2003 Oct 15 (UTC)
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Why won't /Xam work? Bennett Chronister 08:07, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Cause it's got a slash at the beginning. - Mustafaa 14:06, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Older discussion

message: Additionally, I ask:
Why exclude signed languages?
They are natural linguistic creations of these communities.  I would think that these speakers of sign languages have been excluded from their societies enough already.  
I move that their languages be included in your lists & other categorizations (no matter the complications this may bring to linguistic description & theory & whatever).
: Peace. - Ish ishwar 22:54, 2005 Jan 3 (UTC)
: I'm currently doing a major cleanup, letter by letter. I'm actually planning to move the Sign language below a different category below the alphabeticized list after I finished the letter Z. If anyone wants to oppose this, please tell me. It won't harm the list and I won't delete any, of course. — N-true 13:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signed languages 

message: Should West Gurage (Ennemor, Endegen, Masqan, Ezha, Chaha/Cheha, Gumer/Gwemarra and Gura) and East Gurage (Inneqor, Selti, Ulbare, and Wolane) be entered as East Gurage and West Gurage, or should each of the "dialects" be entered as a separate language? Wiwaxia 06:59, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea; possibly it would be best to wait until somebody writes the relevant articles.  The only Gurage language we currently have is Soddo language, which belongs to neither of those. - Mustafaa 09:24, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think only we should only list East Gurage language, West Gurage language, and Soddo Gurage language; and then the different dialects would be discussed or mentioned under the appropriate language: East Gurage language (dialects: Inneqor, Selti, Ulbarag, and Wolane); Soddo Gurage language (dialects: Soddo and Gogot); West Gurage language (dialects: Masqan, Ezha, Chaha, Gumer, Gura, Gyeto, Ennemor, Enegegny, and Ener). —Stephen 09:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  West & East Gurage 

message: I'm a little unclear as to why only languages beginning with Y and Z have their own page, and I'm unsure of the logic of how some languages end up on this page (with the complete list) and others only one of those two pages.
I propose that (at least) any Y and Z languages that have wikipedia pages should be included here with the complete list; we would then change the text that reads "only some major languages are included here" to "languages with wikipedia pages are included here" or something similar.
Any objections? --ntennis 03:10, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Y languages and Z languages 

message: The article on Acholi language is currently nominated to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. If you can contribute or want it to be improved, you can vote for this article there.--Fenice 16:42, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement Drive

message: I've been wondering about the existence of regional statistics for the most spoken languages.
The information that Chinese is the most common language does not really help if, e.g., creating an international website targetted at European users.
Likewise, Spanish may seem like an important language on a world-wide perspective, but the amount of native Spanish speakers in Europe is relatively small.
I guess a list of most spoken languages (native or learnt) per country would be sufficient (a regional list could be derived from that). Right now I can only find a list of official languages per country and a list of most spoken native languages world-wide, neither of which are sufficient (e.g. English is widely understood in many countries accross Europe, but not neccessarily an official (or native) language of every last one of them).
Getting the data might pose a huge problem, tho. I've heard that statistically the three most understood languages in Europe are English, German and French (pretty much in that order), so there have to be some statistics somewhere, though. Ashmodai 11:11, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You could try browsing the country index of Ethnologue: Ethnologue Country Index, sampling the number of languages per country. I can tell you that Nigeria and Cameroon will score pretty high on the 'languages per country' index, with about 400 and 239 languages respectively (source: African Voices (Web & Kembo-Sure 2000). — mark ✎ 16:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Ah, and this map is helpful, too, though I'm not sure how it represents some widely spoken languages as every language only gets one red dot. — mark ✎ 16:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of most spoken languages per region? 

message: Doing Languages of Ethiopia, I realize that many languages classified by Ethnologue do not even have minimal stubs. With a total of 6,800 (many of which do have Wikipedia articles), if would be useful to start some effort to create the missing articles. The stubs will pretty much have the Ethnologue information and link, and I wonder about copyright (what can we copy directly from ethnologue.com, and what information is proprietary). dab (ᛏ) 12:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: missinig articles

message: there's no space between 'and' and 'germanic' at choise 22 at the A section on the list, can you put one there?? 66.169.1.14 20:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  omgwtf? 

message: Bunjevac language is language.
Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Languages_of_Serbia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunjevac_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunjevačke_novine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bács-Bodrog (other languages = 70,545 (for the most part Bunjevac and Šokac))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subotica (Note: The Bunjevac language is also spoken in Subotica,...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombor (According to the 1910 census, the population of Sombor was 30,593 people of whom 11,881 spoke Serbian language, 10,078 Hungarian language, 6,289 Bunjevac language, 2,181 German language, etc.)
Baćo
:Please don't cite Wikipedia itself, this does not count as a proof.
:Ethnologue does not list it as a language: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=CS
:Furthermore, the Wikipedia article itself claims: The status of the Bunjevac language as a language or even a dialect is vague, and instead it is often considered to be a dialect of Serbian or Croatian. — so the status of this dialect/language is a little disputed. Is there an article List of dialects or List of Serbocroatian dialects? There it might fit. — N-true 12:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Montenegrin language is also not listed here and people declare in census to speak both, Montenegrin and Bunjevac. So, what criteria you use here to define what is a language and what is not? I see that Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Serbo-Croatian are listed here and they all are nothing else but one same language (Bunjevac and Montenegrin are also that same language). So, if you listed already these four variants, why not list Bunjevac and Montenegrin too? PANONIAN (talk) 16:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, PANONIAN, I agree. — N-true 00:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bunjevac language 

message: I've just stumblef across this article and am wondering what the point is. Is it intended to become  a comprehensive list of all known human languages? Or something else? Dougg 09:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purpose of this list? 

message: Is something missing like AUSTRALIA. Enlil Ninlil 06:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Australian Aboriginal languages]]

message: O_o
oh for pity's sake, dont alphabetize "Middle X" and "Old X" under M and O. Do a sublist to X. This is the worst of :wiktionary: practice (English under E, Old English under O, but Ancient Greek under A how silly is that). Don't alphabetize Ottoman Turkish under O, Vedic Sanskrit under V, or worse, random urban dialects under the name of some city. That should really be a matter of common sense. We also don't want a list of 250 English dialects here (Bronx English under B, Glasgow Scots under G,...), it will suffice to link varieties of English from the "English" entry. dab (𒁳) 16:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right. Don't understand, how I could miss that. I will correct it later. I'll sort them under "Norse, Old", "Greek, Ancient", "German, Middle High", "Maori, Cook Islands" and so on... — N-true 19:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: extinct languages

message: I'd like to know which languages are spoken by the most people.  Chris Pickett 01:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, there's actually a link in the article to another article: List of languages by number of native speakers, see also Ethnologue list of most spoken languages for another calculation. — N-true 01:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know how I missed that, thanks!  Chris Pickett 01:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  most popular languages? 

message: Hey, the andalusian is not a language, is only a dialect of Spanish, that shouldn`t be in the list.
:As can be read on Andalusian Spanish, it's debatable whether it's a language on its own or just a dialect of Spanish. There are arguments speaking for both views. I'd say in dubio pro reo, so I'd leave Andalusian in the list. — N-true 01:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andalusian 

message: Hi Mynameisnotpj. I don't agree with your removing of the language family links. I clearly see your point, having just one link to a certain topic in a section, but this rule is for plain texts, as far as I know, not for lists. I think the article's symmetry would suffer if you had only language family links in the upper 3 sections or so. Besides, when wanting to know about a certain language family appearing in the article, one has to go all the way up and look for the proper link (even search functions don't help here). Any opinions from anyone else? — N-true (talk) 12:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will happily concede if there is anywhere on Wikipedia that says that.  i have not run across that myself, but I am willing to change my mind. Mynameisnotpj (talk) 12:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language family links 

message: There are about 20 pages for different letters of the alphabet, with names like List of languages by name: E.  Four of pages — letters K, M, N, and O — redirect to the combined List of languages by name, which covers the entire alphabet.
Further, in some cases the individual pages list more languages that the combined page (the L page has about 300 while the combined page has 39 under L), and in other cases fewer (the E page has just one [See if you can guess what it is. :-)] while the combined page has 19 under E).
In short, the organization of this list into pages is a mess, and if there's someone who cares about it, they should clean it up.  I'm adding a "cleanup" tag to the combined page.  --207.176.159.90 (talk) 22:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: is there any point to this list? Since Wikipedia isn't paper, alphabetized lists are completely unneeded in order to find stuff. I can't see any other purpose. Seriously, what is this list for? It's a nightmare to maintain and it seems to serve no purpose whatsoever. This holds equally for every purely alphabetic list of articles on Wikipedia of course.  dab (𒁳) 12:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to one explanation (from Finnish wiki (2003 or 4)) It's a technical question (eases the categorization in some server systems, if I remember correctlty), and a necessary method for avoiding conflicts to be consentrated... 80.186.71.30 (talk) 06:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: A completed list (at least all languages with ISO 639-3 codes) of languages would contain more than 7,000 entries, which accounts for hundreds of thousands of bytes. It is undoubtedly that it's a nightmare to maintain 26 alphabetized lists. What can we do? --✉ Hello World! 12:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about editing the individual articles to a format that is more easily used? Lotsa alternate names there in a "wrong place" if one tries to edit these... 80.186.71.30 (talk) 06:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup: article and sublists 

message: There are lots of info about "native names" in the articles List of ISO 639-1 codes and List of ISO 639-2 codes. However, these native names are not included in the ISO standard; therefore I think that a better way is to move this part into this article (or its sub-lists A thru Z), remaining only ISO 639 codes, English names and French names (French names is a part of the ISO 639). --✉ Hello World! 03:51, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request merging from List of ISO 639-2 codes 

message: I noticed the Ryukyuan languages are missing here... I was going to add them in myself, but thought maybe it'd be better to just make a note here, since it looks like this list isn't so simple - anything I add here would also have to get added to the separate pages "List of languages starting with R" and for all I know there may be some complex script or something linking the two sets of lists. So rather than risk messing things up myself, can I ask someone else out there to help out and add Okinawan, Miyako, Amami-Oshima, Kunigami, and the other languages listed here to the list? Thanks much!! イッペーニフェーデービル！ LordAmeth (talk) 09:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ryukyuan languages 

message: I think Wymysorys should be added to the list, it has ISO 639-3 code (wym) 
It is a Germanic language spoken in the village of Wilamowice in Poland and is currently listed as an endangered language. It has an estimated total of between 70 and 100 speakers left. Falco iron (talk) 21:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Then add it. Arctic Circle System (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wymysorys?