Talk:Old Firm

message: Anyway, the reason I came on this talk was to express my surprise that there isn't a top scorers list on this article. Obviously the games go back into the dim and distant past and in many competitions but had at least local interest from the outset so I'd be shocked if every match wasn't reliably sourced somewhere with goalscorers, and maybe even full lineups. I think it would be something which would enhance the article and is also a standard list for rivalries like this. I could possibly get hold of the stats myself (e.g fitbastats) but I think other editors would have much more ready access to the information, at least for their own team if not the enemy. Maybe something Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Scotland task force could look at? Crowsus (talk) 14:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Added the above myself in May 2017... Crowsus (talk) 07:38, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top scorers  

message: Have there ever been infoboxes of head-to-head results (league, cup, etc.) placed on this page? I would be happy to have a go at creating this unless there are any objections, this article just seems a little lacking in these kind of statistics as opposed to other football derby pages - Andygray110 (talk) 00:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The tables added need reviewing urgently. If we have been using a betting website or similar unreliable source this is in danger of being fundamentally incorrect. Rsssf is largely reliable but still needs verifying. Koncorde (talk) 12:33, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of results 

message: There is way too much colour in those new tables, and what exactly is the point of listing all Scottish Cup and League Cup winners in the table, this has nothing to do with this rivarly, seems like much trivial statistics in all those new tables. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:11, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I can definitely take the colour out of the smaller tables, and will move the big one to History of Scottish football (it's a pretty poor article but best of place for it). Will also move text relating to other teams and probably some for old firm too, referring to that other article. I'll ping you when I'm done. Crowsus (talk) 09:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hope this is better, I have moved the other table to the History article, it was hasn't been updates in a while. Cut down the text as well, it could maybe do with a bit more trimming as well. And the cup totals tables look a bit ugly but I couldn't think of a better format to put them in. There is still some mention of other clubs in the stats but just as a comparison to show how few cups they have won compared to Celtic and Rangers.Crowsus (talk) 11:00, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New tables 

message: I am in this article quite a lot, and the eye is drawn to the quote which heads the text after the lead paragraph:
This might be a true representation of what the guy said, but it hardly reinforces the point of things being more mixed. He went to a Catholic school, so does his son. And from no Rangers fans there are now 'maybe 5%' - in a school of 1200 pupils where half of the girls don't care about football (to use a very basic figure) that would only be an increase from 0 to 45 out of 900. Not exactly a total mix. 
And where did he get this 5% figure from? From his point of view, it's fair enough to casually say it as a guesstimate in an interview, but this throwaway comment shouldn't then be used in a respected online encyclopedia as the only source for how fans of these two teams are mixing in childhood. For balance there should at least be a quote from an equivalent Rangers fan spokesperson with their view on the matter.
Personally speaking, I attended a non-denomonational school in Glasgow in the 1990s, there were about 1200 pupils and from what I remember there were possibly 10 Celtic fans in my year group of ~250 (4%), which mirrors the figure from Mr McGarvey but really demonstrates the divide between the school systems in producing Old Firm bigots, rather than indicating any decrease in the problem. So if the quote is to remain on the article, in my opinion it should take much less prominence as the point he is attempting to make is not borne out by the numbers he gives in support of it.Crowsus (talk) 07:24, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote used is poor 

message: In the first table, under the year 26, I reckon the table says Rangers finished eighth yet the article 1925-26 Scottish Division One says they were sixth. Splićanin (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It says 6th...? But if you do spot one you think is wrong, go ahead and change it with an explanation why in the summary, folk will have a look to double check anyway, errors aren't intentional but may be present. Crowsus (talk) 23:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparative league placings 

message: 594 matches between the two teams, including unofficial games.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:A04C:600:B895:A3EF:E919:BE83 (talk) 10:51, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I hesitate to ask, but what kind of "unofficial" games are these? Koncorde (talk) 12:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the defunct minor competitions in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:A04C:3422:B1F4:354A:F562:FF6F (talk) 13:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, "unofficial" is probably the wrong word for them to be honest and the source doesn't describe them in that way. I will take a look. Koncorde (talk) 13:26, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total matches 

message: Why do you think it's more important to link to the broader competition instead of the specific match that features the derby if it has its own article? GOLDIEM J (talk) 13:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Specific match is already linked right below at "Celtic v Rangers", it was previously reverted by one of the IP editors, check history. I don't mind if you link to the 2023–24 Scottish cup article, but then the second link to the same article below needs to be removed. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, I didn't see that. Thanks for letting me know. GOLDIEM J (talk) 13:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert