Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 17

message: What's this 'ruling' nonsense. Parties don't 'rule' in a democracy. --84.67.26.101 01:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free to suggest better wording and post it at WP:ERRORS. --PFHLai 06:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not an error, and last time I talked about something on ITN on the Main Page talk page I got severely shouted at. --84.67.26.101 10:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

text: In Westminster systems at least (UK, Australia, etc) the term "ruling party" is used to refer to the party that has a house majority and therefore is "in government". --Monotonehell 11:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Japan Lib Dems

message: Not sure if this is important enough yet, but I-35W Bridge Collapse happened about an hour ago. Over 50 cars in the water, casualties yet unknown. I've seen plane crashes, and stuff like that on In the news. Thought I'd suggest it, nonetheless. --theblueflamingoSquawk 00:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has just been redirected, I think, due to "recentism". --theblueflamingoSquawk 00:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A) You are looking for WP:ITN/C, for candidate articles.  B) Please be careful to mention Minnesota if this is posted.  Until reading the article, I had assumed that the only I-35W was the 100+ mile division of I-35 that occurs in Texas.  I hadn't realized there was a second split segment further north.  Dragons flight 00:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry about that. I've never nominated a candidate. I'll be sure to mention Minnesota next time though. Thanks for telling me.--theblueflamingoSquawk 00:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I created I-35W Bridge with a rather vague title, I guess, so it's now I-35W Mississippi River Bridge.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 03:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I-35W Bridge Collapse

message: Why did the death of Ingmar Bergman not receive any attention whatsoever? If we can feature fairly localized bridge accidents, we could at least try to mention the death of one of the most famous film directors ever.
Peter Isotalo 04:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the discussion at WP:ITN/Candidates#July 30. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The short answer is that there was no consensus that it met all of the ITN Criteria. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bergman? 

message: Why does a highway bridge that collapsed killing 7 get onto the main page, but 2 bombings that killed 67 () not?  Neil ╦ 08:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because you haven't created an article about it yet. --Howard the Duck 10:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick question 

message: Not to sensationalize, but adding the facts that it happened during evening rush hour and that at least 4 people were killed (latest info I've read) might help to explain why this might be of international "interest". (To reply to the above question, bombings are unfortunately a lot more common than briges suddenly collapsing for no obvious reason. But that's not to say I believe it warrants Main Page placement.) - dcljr (talk) 17:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it really doesn't need that info. This event was front page news on the BBC, in Australian news outlets I looked at, in Brazil (see the Portuguese interwiki on this article for references) and pretty much all around the world. Bridge collapses like this are very rare, and if the amount of international coverage of this isn't proof of "international interest", I don't know what is. Grandmasterka 21:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose you're right and Wikipedia has to toe the line set by the actual news agencies, but as soon as I saw today's Main Page I thought, "Oh come on..." --84.65.21.21 10:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would have to agree. USA is usually what's used after city, state, if the country abbreviation is needed. Jared (t)  04:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I am going to switch it to USA. —MJCdetroit 19:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording of bridge item 

message: As the sentence is written, it is more common to say City, State USA and NOT City, State U.S.  If we were discussing the something like the Sectary of State then it would be more common to say U.S. Secretary of State and not USA Secretary of State.  Therefore, it should be written Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA (without the dots per MOS).  Written with the other abbreviation is odd. —MJCdetroit 04:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to agree. USA is usually what's used after city, state, if the country abbreviation is needed. Jared (t)  04:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I am going to switch it to USA. —MJCdetroit 19:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: U.S. vs USA

message: Isn't the extinction of the Yangtze River Dolphin an event worthy of the main "In the News" page? Seeing as its been around for 25 million years up till now, I regard this as a fairly major event, certainly more important than most, if not all, the news items currently on the page.Nwe 16:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are looking for WP:ITN/C, for suggested contributions.  More directly though, how is this news?  They were labelled "functionally extinct" over a year ago when a survey found none.  Dragons flight 16:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes and it was on ITN then. I don't see whats changed Nil Einne 18:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yangtze River Dolphin 

message: :An earthquake with a magnitude of 7.4 hits Jakarta, Indonesia. (Sky)
No article yet from what I can tell but given the magnitude it could be significant enough for ITN if we ever get a good enough one. So it's one to watch Nil Einne 18:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now we have 2007 Java earthquake, but it's a mini-sub-stub. --PFHLai 03:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately, it turned out to be nothing much anyway AFAIK Nil Einne 09:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headsup - earthquake 

message: Please add interwiki to :ka:თარგი სიახლეები. tnx. - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 14:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --PFHLai 00:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ka link

message: The article reads, A series of four suicide bomb attacks in Kahtaniya, Iraq results in at least 400 deaths and another 375 injuries, most of whom belonged to the minority Yazidi religion. The deaths and injuries did not belong to the religion, the people did.  Possible improvements:
A series of four suicide bomb attacks in Kahtaniya, Iraq results in at least 400 deaths and another 375 injuries, mostly of people who belonged to the minority Yazidi religion.
A series of four suicide bomb attacks in Kahtaniya, Iraq results in at least 400 deaths and another 375 injuries. Most of the victims belonged to the minority Yazidi religion. Matchups 11:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS. --74.14.22.104 15:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try WP:ERRORS or I'm sure someone will come along here and fix this. Cheers. --MZMcBride 15:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad riting needs fixin 

message: Can we remove the obsolete tropical cyclones line? Sepat dissipated five days ago and Dean two days ago. —Angr/talk 10:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the earthquake is a week past, why didn't you mention that one? --Golbez 10:58, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Old items move down the queue when new items are added to the top. No one's nominated any suitable new items for ages at WP:ITN/C --Monotonehell 12:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tropical cyclones 

message: Can someone please add some lines about the Greek fire disaster? More than 43 people are dead till now, and many others are missing.   --KaragouniS 11:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we have an article for this? No article = no mention. --Howard the Duck 11:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: here it is ---> 2007 Greek fires. Please continue the article as my internet connection has many problems due to the fires. See ya -KaragouniS 12:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a few more addition and it can be added already. You may nominate this at WP:ITN/C if you're done (dunno where to get sources so I can't help that easily). --Howard the Duck 14:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Fires

message: David Levy makes a good point above: what exactly is the objection to the Gonzales story?  It seems patently obvious to me that the item meets criterion #3, "It should be a story of an international importance, or at least interest."  What's the problem here? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who's saying anything about the article not being up to scratch?  My point is that the Gonzales story meets all the ITN criteria, including "international interest". —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Good point.  In a case like this, it might have been good if someone had contacted , who put the item up in the first place.  It's a shame that he or she didn't participate in the discussion, which I'm guessing is because he or she didn't know that it was going on. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary section break

message: There's a free picture of Abdullah Gül at :Image:Abdullah Gül (Brasília, 19.1.2005).jpeg. Any one object to me replacing Alberto Gonzales with him? He is the newest entry after all. Sasquatch  t|c 16:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did that myself, before seeing your comment.  I didn't figure that putting a free image up accompanying the newest item required discussion beforehand.  If I was wrong in that assumption, I apologize. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, I was just checking to see if there were any objections as a courtesy rather than as a requirement. Sasquatch  t|c 17:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, courtesy.  I remember that, vaguely. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture?