Talk:Tutoring

message: Added information about St. John's College tutors. User:LC'sGoonSquad Andy G. 16:03, 10 Aug 2004
: @sgoonsquad - why is this school ^ important in the generic definitioon of a 'tutor'!? bosky101 12:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: St. John's College

message: :To tutor someone is also a slang term for engaging in sexual activity.
Really? Can we have a source? Flapdragon 13:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this is true 69.116.65.159 01:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure it is true in some contexts. Just ask Abelard and Heloise. — LlywelynII 15:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary meanings 

message: People in the United States and probably some other countries are not going to understand the titles "Private tuition" and "Online tuition". To them, tuition is the fee that you pay to go to a university, college or a private school. Also, that meaning is what the Wikipedia article tuition is about and it is the first meaning given in the American Heritage Dictionary (unfortunately, I do not have access to the Oxford English Dictionary). Therefore, I am going to change the titles to "private tutoring" and "online tutoring". Is this understandable for people in the U.K. and elsewhere? -- Serw 08:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage of "tuition" 

message: It looks like a lot of the capitalization in the article is unnecessary. Check out all of the capitalizations in the first paragraph. 
:In English Secondary Schools the Form Tutor is similar to an American Home Room Teacher. They are given the responsibilites of Form or Class of students in a particular year group (up to 30 students.) They usually work in Year Teams headed by a Year Leader, Year Head or Guidance Teacher.
I do not think that these generic positions should be capitalized. For example, in the school counselor article, "school counselor", similar to "Guidance Teacher" in the paragraph above, is not capitalized in the article title or in the article. Non-educational positions, like sheriff and physician are not capitalized, either. I think that they should be made lowercase. -- Serw 09:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: British English likes to unnecessarily capitalize the Titles of Persons of Import. That then makes Other People capitalize Their Own Titles as well. Yeah, it's all against MOS and should be fixed as it comes up though. — LlywelynII 15:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: I propose merging the section Online tutoring with the section On the internet on the Tutorial page. Online tutoring is not appropriate for the Tutor page and is just an invitation for people to linkspam. — Nicknz 20:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There would seem to be an existing article at Online tutoring which seem to have the topic covered, I would propose simply removing this text since there is already a link to that article in the 'see also' section. Kuru talk 15:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online tutoring - Merge proposal 

message: I'm not sure if it's kosher, but I inserted a comment in the External Links section that warns against linkspam. I'm guessing that most linkspammers are just uninformed, so hopefully that will cut down on the amount of spam. - Pingveno ( talk | contrib ) 19:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly couldn't hurt!  Kuru talk 00:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linkspam warning 

message: Should we make mention of the tutoring requirements as recommended by the College Reading and Learning Association? -EarthRise33 02:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CRLA

message: Toward a more insightful article, one might include this observation of Andrew Forsyth (1935):
:...a new profession arose -- not officially recognized: open to all; for there was neither a test of admission nor means of exclusion: that of the private coach. He made it the business of his life to prepare candidates for the examination. ... the examiners changed from year to year. But the private coach was continuous. He accumulated experience and skill: he sifted all examination papers, recent and old alike: he codified mathematical knowledge into small tracts or pamphlets, kept in manuscript for his own private prescription for his own set of students.
::"Old Tripos days at Cambridge", Mathematical Gazette 19: 162-79.
A more detailed story of the evolution of tutoring at Cambridge is given by Andrew Warwick in Masters in Theory. He also explains the rift with the standard instructors which generated the need for tutoring. Clearly this article can fit the role of tutor into education when expectations and student maturity have been addressed.Rgdboer (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and similar instructors for the Chinese imperial exams long before this. Yes, absolutely. — LlywelynII 15:19, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: Test tutoring 

message: I have seen early 19th Century court documents from New Orleans that refer to the appointment of a "tutor" for an orphan ("tutee"). Apparently, this tutor acted as a guardian. Perhaps this was a carry-over from the Napoleonic Code. Bruin2 (talk) 14:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Bruin2, I think what you are referring to is here. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 12:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It is something to distinguish in a hatnote or dab page. — LlywelynII 15:19, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Another definition of tutor?

message: The In Home Tutoring vs Online Tutoring chart was pulled from a website.  I added the appropriate citation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JasonHoldEm1234 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Citation 

message: i am Rahim From Peshawar i want to do DIT what is Dit sent me the whole information about DIT  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.156.31.5 (talk) 20:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  DIT 

message: Is it OK if I add this chart to the article?  It succinctly clarifies many common misconceptions between home tutoring and schooling.  I can cite it appropriately as well.JasonHoldEm1234 (talk) 17:12, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the material as a blatant copyright violation.  We can not simply cut-and-paste material into Wikipedia articles. ElKevbo (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Tutoring vs. Home Schooling Chart 

message: the same people who spammed the home tutoring page, took our table, the original content concerning home tutoring out, and put theirs in, I putting back the content that was originally hear and we are the creators of the home tutoring page
(Brodaiga (talk) 15:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry but I'm not following you.  In any case, the material you re-added was in violation of copyright so I removed it. ElKevbo (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: you have removed my entries for copyright on the tutoring pages, I am the copyright owner, I wrote the table and am the owner of Crown Tutoring, INC.  What would you like to see?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brodaiga (talk • contribs) 16:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I am the copy right owner of CT, and this content was readied --Brodaiga (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Crown Tutoring

message: I tried to clean up the "private tutoring section" a bit.  I tried to make it read less like promotional material from a tutoring company and more like an encyclopedia entry.  Here are specific justifications for some of my edits.
* Tutelage is not "the process of ... begin under the guidance of a tutor."  It's a much more general term.  If you don't believe this, see, for example, "tutelage, n.". OED Online. June 2012. Oxford University Press. http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/207851 (accessed June 26, 2012).
* I found the sentence that discribed "mentoring" as implying that the student is "an empty vessel into which knowledge is poured" to be inaccurate.  Nothing in any definition of "mentor" that I've seen (e.g., the OED's) carries this implication.  Besides, the sentence reads like promotional material for a company offering self-styled "academic coaching".
* Academic tutoring, as I understand it, can mean tutoring in any academic context, not just students tutoring other students.
* Private/personal tutoring are not the same as in-home tutoring, as private tutoring can occur in places other than homes.
66.244.80.6 (talk) 17:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits of 26 June 

message: i want authors quotes and literature for the indicator of excellence (tweak) for my grduate course so please help me iwant it urgent  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.46.82 (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  literature of authors 

message: While I think having a section on the costs of tutoring is very good, the section as written is very bad. Differing scales (per household vs per nation, per month vs per year) are all mixed together and there is no context to make sense of the data (valuation of the market needs to include information on the size/population of the market, cost per household needs to include household income levels). Right now the section as written tells us:
* Pakistan: $3.40 / student / month
* India: $2.00 / student / month  ...and... 
* India: $6.4 Billion / nation / year
* Georgia: $48 million / nation / year
* Hong Kong: $255 million / city-state / year
* Japan: $12 Billion / nation / year
* South Korea: $17.3 Billion / nation / year
These data leave many context related questions unanswered, such as: 
* What percentage of household income is this? 
* What is the typical family size? 
* How many students are in the nation??
Also the year of the data for each is not always clear in the text of the article which can be significant depending on how far apart they are chronologically. National and household incomes have dramatically changed in some countries over the past decade.
And finally, the following excerpt makes no sense as written: 
* "Household expenditures on private tutoring are equivalent to about 80% of government expenditures on public education for primary and secondary students."
I researched the (offline) citation and found an online summary of the source here which much more clearly states: "In 2006, the household sector spent 2.57% of the nation's GDP on private tutoring for primary and secondary school students. Government spending on those students was about 3.5% of GDP" but offers no number for GDP in 2006 for context. (Maybe that number is in the actual source). Also, a simple math calculation (not WP:OR) shows 2.57/3.5 = 73% which is a far cry from the "about 80%" from the excerpt above but I presume this is probably what the WP editor was talking about. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 13:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Costs" section needs major rewrite.  

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved   (t · c) buidhe 21:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Tutor →  – The activity of tutoring seems to be what is the primary scope of this article, not the profession of a tutor. Currently, the word 'tutor' is mentioned here about 16 times, and the concept of tutoring, 140+. While the lead starts with a sentence about what is a tutor it then moves on to defining tutoring, and the rest of the article continues from that point on. Tutors have their own small section Tutor#Tutors and that's about all that makes sense. After redirecting I suggest retargeting the redirect to that particular section. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 15 January 2021 

message: It's obviously patent nonsense that tutoring began with the Greeks; was "favored" by the upper class Romans; and was left without any concern for its structure until the 20th century.
Personal instruction is unquestionably the oldest form of education; even professional tutors for hire are well attested in China centuries before the sophists; the richer Romans had Greek slaves they used in part as tutors; and the structuring of royal education by royal tutors is the foundation of the structuring of any form of education in the written record. Since there is no separate royal tutor page, the history section here needs to be expanded with at least a paragraph on the development of those ideas in Europe. The provided link to our article on British royal education hopefully provides a starting point and sourcing. Ideally, it should be complemented by at least the traditions in India and East Asia.
There's a source for the 20th century claim that's specious in its current wording. Kindly consult the source for the valid part of what it was trying to say and rephrase what we have so that it's actually honest about what happened in the 20th century. Possibly it's just that more rigor was applied towards tutoring of middle class and poorer children; possibly it's restricted to specific techniques or fields; or possibly it's just inaccurate because the author forgot about/disregarded the extensive existing literature on pedagogy. — LlywelynII 15:15, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: History