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Talk:Béla Bartók

message: What did he die from? 220.240.77.202 (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death? 

message: A large and important crater on Mercury is named after him.  It is the largest of "recent" (Kuiperian) craters on Mercury. Jstuby (talk) 03:05, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  crater 

message: Could this be reliable and credible enough to be used on the un-cited material in the section on his childhood? ToastEatinBread (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question on a Source. 

message: Significant chunks of this article are copied directly from this sourcehttps://www.coursehero.com/study-guides/atd-epcc-musicappreciation/bela-bartok/ without proper attribution. As an example, the following two paragraphs are nearly verbatim:
In 1908, he and Kodály traveled into the countryside to collect and research old Magyar folk melodies. Their growing interest in folk music coincided with a contemporary social interest in traditional national culture. Magyar folk music had previously been categorised as Gypsy music. The classic example is Franz Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies for piano, which he based on popular art songs performed by Romani bands of the time. In contrast, Bartók and Kodály discovered that the old Magyar folk melodies were based on pentatonic scales, similar to those in Asian folk traditions, such as those of Central Asia, Anatolia and Siberia.[citation needed]
Bartók and Kodály set about incorporating elements of such Magyar peasant music into their compositions. They both frequently quoted folk song melodies verbatim and wrote pieces derived entirely from authentic songs. An example is his two volumes entitled For Children for solo piano, containing 80 folk tunes to which he wrote accompaniment. Bartók's style in his art music compositions was a synthesis of folk music, classicism, and modernism. His melodic and harmonic sense was influenced by the folk music of Hungary, Romania, and other nations. He was especially fond of the asymmetrical dance rhythms and pungent harmonies found in Bulgarian music. Most of his early compositions offer a blend of nationalist and late Romanticism elements.
Ben373119 (talk) 18:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: Need a reference to this. Not seeing in manuscripts or in musicology works. If no citation pops up, I will delete the line. Currently tagged as citation needed. Screen317 (talk) 07:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opus numbering his own works? 

message: This source by Vera Lampert should at least be included in sources. 2600:4040:52C1:6F00:841:1A0E:4AF9:50FF (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  https://www.henle.de/download/aktuelles/080.pdf 

message: I was going to add an infobox per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle but saw the hidden message about consulting first. Would it be OK? — Iadmc♫talk   11:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox
Talk:Hoax

message: ...this article is one that often has false information on it.
Colabcalub (talk) 13:24, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let me guess... 

message: ' "On Saturday 13 March 2010 the Imedi television station in Georgia broadcast a false announcement that Russia had invaded Georgia." '
Given the history between the two countries, this sounds less like a hoax and suspiciously like the TV station jumped the gun over something and then tried the old "I was just trolling all along, lol" schtick. Are we sure it deserves a place here? --164.71.1.221 (talk) 04:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russia and Georgia political hoax 

message: The article I accidentally started a Wikipedia hoax describes how a college prank, wherein two students added bogus text to the Amelia Bedelia article back in 2009, and which was taken as gospel truth (having never been removed by any other WP editors), to the point of being quoted as fact in several serious publications. WP user Milowent appears in the article as an "expert on Internet hoaxes". It might be useful to mention the article on this page or on a related page. — Loadmaster (talk) 18:09, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have redacted part of this comment per WP:BLP, as described on Talk:Amelia Bedelia. 9kat (talk) 01:27, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accidental Wikipedia hoax 

message: I just found a region, which has some Wikipedia articles which are only relevant by a specific region. If I publish an article about a Hoaxes in this region, how could I add this article to the existing one? Thanks! --huggi - never stop exploring (talk) 05:51, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional Hoaxes 

message: For those who are interested, there is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Fake news (disambiguation) about whether Fake news should redirect to Fake news (disambiguation) or Hoax. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 21:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect of [[Fake news]] 

message: Paragraph 2 and 3 of this section should be reviewed.
Postconfused (talk) 16:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media Hoaxes and Fake News
Talk:List of inspectors of Greenland

message: What's an "inspector"? Sort of like a governor? Who appoints them, the Danes? --Uncle Ed
To be honest with you, I have no idea. But thats what they were apperntly called. - fonzy
:They were Danes alright (I don't know about the other part of the question, perhaps the title "governor" would have implied a higher paycheck.) Valentinian (talk) 22:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Tim Wirth

message: This statement has been quoted, paraphrased, co-opted numerous times over the years in speeches, articles and books by people of note in the environmental movement. The earliest utterance I can find of it is from a speech given by Tim Wirth to the National Press Club on July 25, 1994. Here it is in context from that speech:
"Stated in the jargon of the business world, the economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment. All economic activity is dependent on the environment and its underlying resource base."
    --Undersecretary of State Tim Wirth, concluding a speech to the National Press Club, July 25, 1994
My source for the transcript of this speech: http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/briefing/dispatch/1994/html/Dispatchv5no30.html
This is, or appears to be, from Dispatch Magazine, an organ of the United Stated State Department, wherein his speech to the National Press Club is printed as a "dispatch".
I would like some feedback before I add this quote to his Wikipedia biography. Two specific questions:
1. Does this pass muster as a "primary source"?
2. Can anyone trace this the origin of this quote to a source preceding Tim Wirth's above-noted speech? My main motivation is to find the source of this quote, whether it be Tim Wirth or someone earlier.
radioman
64.149.38.135 (talk) 16:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment

message: Small point, but the bio says "returned to his home state" in '70, ran for congress in '74.  But he came to Colorado in '70 and the bio details say he was born in Santa Fe NM. This doesn't seem consistent with the "home state" part. I remember when Tim ran for Congress in '74 and there was a fair bit of grumbling about "carpetbaggers" and questioning whether someone who had only lived in Colorado for four years was an appropriate candidate. Can anyone say why this counts Colorado as Wirth's home state? — Charlie (Colorado) (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Home State"?
Talk:Alt.zines

message: I moved the content here over to the sine article, per the RFD consensus.  I'm not sure what the proper procedure for removing this page is though, so if someone does know, please go for it (after checking my work over there, naturally.)  Thanks.Msalt (talk) 18:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The proper procedure is to redirect the merged page to the target page, and tag it with . For more information, see Help:Merging. Jafeluv (talk) 11:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  finishing the merge
Talk:Steve Jackson Games

message: The article only mentions the -mistaken- reasons for the raid, and that everything about it being a part of Operation Sundevil was false, even if common perception by the public...  ...so.... what WAS the real reason for the raid?  You'd think, being an encyclopedia article, this would be mentioned...  or does nobody know why they raided?  --I am not good at running 01:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  So why DID the raid happen? 

message: What exactly is "unencyclopedic" about the list of games produced by this company?  It seems highly relevant and is organized in a reasonable manner.  I plan on removing the tag in one week unless someone can explain why it should stay. -Chunky Rice 20:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unencyclopedic list tag

message: User 75.167.196.110 has added three newish dice games to the article. (Thanks!) For easy of reference, here are the pages at SJG's website: Cthulhu Dice, Zombie Dice, Proteus. Cheers, CWC 09:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links for Dice games
Talk:C-47

message: There's probably no point in changing the redirect, but in filmmaking jargon a C-47 is a clothespin. --Brion 00:11 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)
OK, you got me. I am dying of curiosity now! Please elucidate. Tannin
:Well, they're used mainly for holding filters in place on lights, as general handy clips that, being made of wood, don't conduct heat and thus don't burn your hand off quite so much. ;)  Why they're called C-47's is something of a mystery; that's the way of industry jargon. --Brion 00:49 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)
:I've edited the article to reflect the filmmaking jargon, eliminating the redirect, creating a disambiguation page and copying an article on the film equipment from http://wikifilmschool.com HamillianActor 14:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The use in filmmaking is included in clothes-pin.  I think it's more than reasonable that someone looking for C47 is looking for the Skytrain as much as they're looking for a clothes pin.  If the clothes-pin article gets so large that it seems inappropriate to include the filmmaking portion, then perhaps a C-47 article would be warranted... kmccoy (talk) 17:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see the filmmaking section included in clothes-pin, so I suppose a separate article would be extraneous. However, I think I'm beginning to discover that I'm an inclusionist. =) HamillianActor 00:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Repeal (Ireland)

message: Why is the term "Kingdom of Ireland" used, who was Irelands King? --Domer48 14:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom of Ireland 

message: I deleted the text on this page as the information was completely un-referenced and un-sourced. In addition the information was both inaccurate and misinformed. If however the material can be all referenced, and sourced, regardless weather it is true, reverts would be appropriate.--Domer48 19:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Text 

message: I don't see the point of this page, to be honest. It's not very informative and doesn't seem to serve a purpose. Sadistik 16:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it is already here Repeal Association. I will get around to expanding it, Repeal Association, that is, at some time. But as for this one, no, there is no keed for it. --Domer48 18:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I have now merged it to Repeal Association. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Useless?
Talk:SATA

message: If you search on the internet, "when was SATA introduced," you will get conflicting answers. After digging a little bit deeper into this article and its sources, I gather that the correct story is that SATA was announced at the Intel Developer Conference in 2000, but at the time the specification wasn't finished and so the technology wasn't actually out yet. Then, version 1.0 of the spec was released in 2003, and that's when it was in a ready state and people could actually start making SATA drives. Is my understanding of the story correct?
If it is, I think it would make sense to put 2003 as the year created in the infobox (currently it says 2000). It sounds to me like in 2000, SATA was in a state equivalent to when someone has conceptualized, designed, a new invention, but hasn't made anything yet. I would argue that SATA in this state hadn't been invented yet, especially since it is not a physical thing but rather a specification for people to implement.
If there were working prototypes of a drive and motherboard conforming to SATA in 2000 or before 2003, I might say that it had been invented then. But if that's the case, I think the article should also mention those prototypes.
Thoughts? I think this is a gray area (at least with my current knowledge).
Mariachiband49 (talk) 02:58, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: AFAIR, Seagate shipped the first SATA drive in 2002, pre-standard. We'd need a source for that though. --Zac67 (talk) 
06:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There are multiple sources that Seagate shipped in 2002 devices that were compliant with the then current in process version of SATA.  It was common for HDDs to ship before any formal spec was published; in fact early on most specifications got published long after the first drive shipped, think IDE, or if at all, think ST-506.  the date is almost a WP:SKYISBLUE issue.  Tom94022 (talk) 21:58, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year created in infobox 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: page moved per quick and clear consensus.  PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Serial ATA →  – SATA is the WP:COMMONNAME of this subject. It already redirects here. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 10 November 2022 

message: :There were elevem entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion. 
*ELpoints #3) states: 
*LINKFARM states: 
*WP:ELMIN: . 
*WP:ELCITE:  
*WP:ELBURDEN:  -- Otr500 (talk) 20:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links
Talk:Duel

message: The section describing Greek traditions sounds much more like a plain tavern fight than a fromal duel. The editor probably wanted to mock the Greeks instead of adding valid information. 194.38.111.241 (talk) 01:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greece 
Talk:Anakim

message: Anakim the Hebrew plural, Anakites in English. We are talking about a tribal people here, are we not? (cf. Amalekites). Why don't we develop some more consistent English-language format for Wikipedia to describe these ancient peoples? The mixed formulas parroted from Victorian Bible dictionaries give rise to utter confusion, viz.:  They were probably a remnant of the original inhabitants of Palestine before the Canaanites, a Cushite tribe from Babel, and of the same race as the Phoenicians and the Egyptian shepherd kings. Was original inhabitants of Canaan before the Philistines arrived what was actually intended? Why Cushites? why Babel? what Phoenician 'race'? shepherd-kings: someconnection to the Hyksos is intended? Biblebabble! Wetman 13:12, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Tribal people

message: ANAKIM as plural of Enoch derived from Sumerian Anunaki - but the word Anunas have had relationship with Sanskrit word Nagas (later Hebrew word Nachash); so "Anu" (the higher ones; "above" + Nagas (reptilian like).
89.143.107.180 (talk) 13:46, 15 March 2013
:Where did you find that?  From what I read, Enoch means "dedicated" with a possible connection to the word for "mouth". Grunschild (talk) 01:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anakim is plural of Enoch and new version of Anunaki 

message: According to the article on Nephilim, "Anakim" means "long-necked".  Anak, the root, simply means "neck"...so it would seem to be most accurate to say they are simply decedents of Neck, but there is a possibility that they carried genes that gave the trait of having a long neck to many in this clan/tribe.  Thoughts? Grunschild (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long Necked Ones 

message: It seems to have been overlooked that the Anakim appear in the Ba'al Cycle of the Ugaritic Texts, c. 13th/12th century BC.  It's arguably the original source.  Any objections to me adding this to the article, or was it omitted because the article only discusses the Anakim in a biblical context? Sadena (talk) 15:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canaanite Baal Cycle
Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

message: Guys, something is going very wrong here. The data for the film's gross takings are cited to the 2003 version of Box Office Mojo, which I take it is a reliable source. We are therefore stating the gross takings as they were in that year, when the film obviously caused a box office sensation. This does not deny or belittle any later earnings, but they are not the point here - this is not a news site, reporting every small change day-to-day; nor a data site, reporting whole data streams for years on end. This is an encyclopedia, and our job is to report "the main points" reliably. Our reliability is a function of the sources we cite, and our compliance with those sources. We can't be seen to be citing 2003 sources and then putting in what may (or may not) be 2021 figures compiled from nobody-knows-where. For what it's worth, I'd say that providing the 2003 data and citing it to a 2003 source makes very good sense here, as it says all that is needed - this film did extremely well at the box office at that time, basta. It is either Original Research, failure to cite sources, or abuse of sources (making them seem to say what they do not) to modify data in an article while the source says something different - that is really damaging to Wikipedia's reputation. I do hope these points are clear to everybody - they are central to the way Wikipedia works, and to how the non-editing public sees Wikipedia, so they matter. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Data conflicting with cited sources

message: The caption for the image of the five men on horseback identifies the actor on the left as Karl Urban. According to the director's audio commentary, the character intended to be Éomer in that scene is portrayed by Karl Urban's stand-in, and thus is an unknown Rohan rider. The plan was to replace the hand of the stand-in with Urban's, but that never happened. Spleezleton (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karl Urban's stand-in
Talk:Tree of the knowledge of good and evil/off-topic

message: Please quit censoring information on the Church of Reality's interpretation of the Tree of Knowledge. Realists aren't deleting Christian interpretations.
In the Church of Reality the Tree of Knowledge represents the sum total of all human understanding. It represents the shared knowledge of the human race. The tree is represented by a fractal and is a reference to a mathematical tree indicating that all knowledge is interconnected. The growth of the Tree of Knowledge is equated the the positive evolution of the human race.
--Marcperkel 06:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subject Censorship - Please stop it! 

message: interesting idea...although you'll find that MANY people would be insulted with the idea that the Torah, Bible and Qur'an are rooted in Wicca. Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 17:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind...Wetman removed it. Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 18:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sure Wetman's just concerned about WP:NOTABILITY. Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, there was a dispute over the Church of Reality's views some time back... see Talk:Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil/off-topic. Other than that, I suggest you Talk to Wetman. Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 06:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creationist Chronicles: Wicca? 

message: If human beings had no concept of "good" or "evil" how would they behave?  Is it possible that what is being represented here is either litterally or metaphorically the ability to categorize ourselves, others, and things as having an intentional agency committed to our well being or our destruction?  Perhaps, we ate and continue to eat from the tree of "unforgiveness of anything not like me".  Maybe we should consider eating instead from the tree of the knowledge of what works for everyone.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.66.45.94 (talk) 15:27, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What if the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" is exactly what it says?
Talk:SQL Slammer

message: Under the Impace section, it says, "Yonhap news agency in South Korea reported on the Internet services had been shut down for hours on Saturday, January 25, 2003 nationwide."  Should this be "reported that the internet services had been shut down" or "reported on the internet that services had been shut down"? Banaticus 09:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

message: The beginning of == Technical details == reads:
* "The worm is a small (376 bytes) piece of code that does little other than generate random IP addresses and send itself out to those addresses."
* And the end of the section (which has been mistaken for the discussion page):
"The size of the Worm isn't 376 bytes. The worm sends 376 bytes to UDP port 1434, the SQL Server Resolution Service Port."
I deleted the last sentences and the alleged size in the first sentence. Apokrif 16:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of the worm 

message: It is simplistic to the point of misleading to state "a patch had been released six months earlier in MS02-039".  Do we want to tell more of the patch history?
The first patch to fix the Slammer vulnerability was issued on 24 July 2002.  Additional Security Bulletins came in August and October, when it was discovered that another package of patches to the same database programs made them worse.  A patch to fix the new problem came on 9 October, but fully installing it would reopen the vulnerability to Slammer -- an old, vulnerable module had been included in the fix. 16 October brought a patch that actually patched Slammer, but now the other problem was forgotten.  The sixth shot was the charm: a preliminary pack of patches issued in December 2002 got both problems right, along with 188 other bugs in the 7th version of SQL Server.  Systems Administrators were told, "Microsoft DOES NOT support the use of this build in your production environments. It is being provided for testing purposes, such that you have the opportunity to uncover issues/concerns . . ."  Doubtless some waited until that pack stabilized on 4 January 2003, or until the first easy-to-install patch addressing just these two vulnerabilities was issued. That was 26 January, just after Slammer struck.
Decide for yourself whether the patch was released 6 months before the attack or the day after. David Litchfield, an independent researcher, discovered Microsoft's Slammer vulnerability and contacted the company on 16 May 2002  (see http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/NT-Bugtraq/2002-06/0014.html), so throw in the 2+ months it took Microsoft to make any public move when you add up the nation's total response delay.  
Microsoft expressed doubts about Mr. Litchfield's claims and made no response to the danger until Mr. Litchfield presented his findings publicly at the Blackhat Security Briefings in July 2002.
Jerry-va (talk) 14:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many patching delays and missteps