Talk:Rudy (film)

message: Conman33: Please avoid using weasel phrases. Statements like "The movie is often considered to be..." lack precision, evidence, and often "give the force of authority to a statement without letting the reader decide if the source of the opinion is reliable." If you can find evidence (reputable survey, for example), that Rudy is considered by viewers to be the best sports movie, then we can make such a claim in the article (with proper citation). --mtz206 22:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Avoid weasel phrases 

message: Is the song Rudy by Supertramp about this? http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858500532
--insertwackynamehere 00:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supertramp 

message: Shouldn't the large block of quotes be on WikiQuote? ---- GIGGAS2 08:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: this sounds rippedoff from ibmd, cauz it has taglines and quotes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.199.75.182 (talk • contribs).
:Be aware that IMDB has "rippedoff" content from Wikipedia before.  The content could have been used from IMDB or IMDB could have used the content from here.  Chupper 20:25, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: rippedoff

message: I removed content which included a copyright violation.  It used content from the page at http://espn.go.com/page2/s/merron/021202.html.  Unless the author and website release that content to the public domain, we can't use it on Wikipedia, even if we cite it.  We can, however, rewrite it in our own words and cite it, if someone would be interested in doing that... Chupper 20:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation 

message: I have re-designated the section formerly titled "Inaccuracies" as "Dramatic Alterations" because the latter is a more apt term. From the opening frame, the film is presented as being "based on a true story" - and you'd have to add an "inaccuracies" section to virtually every article in Wiki on a film based on an actual incident, like Apollo13 and JFK_(film). The alterations from fact are for dramatic effect and not for intentional distortion, as the sources that I cite for the other points of fact clearly indicate.
I also added sourced information about Ruettiger's family and the role that Dan Devine played in real life. Sensei48 (talk) 18:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 5/10/2009 

message: The term "starring" actually has a meaning in Hollywood productions, and in actual fact neither Beatty's nor Dutton's nor especially Vaughn's roles fit the criteria. "Starring" is contractually defined as "a role with a central and substantive effect on the film's conflict and outcome." You could stretch that perhaps to include Beatty and Dutton, but not Vaughn by any stretch of the imagination. Jon Favreau and five other actors belong in this lede ahead of Vaughn, whose debut in this film is and ought to be a footnote to the article about the film, not one of the central points in the opening section. regardsSensei48 (talk) 23:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast Notation, 6/6/09 

message: While Notre Dame generally has not had players' names on their jerseys, for a number of years in the 1970s and 1980s when it was common in college football to do so, Notre Dame followed suit. Here is a picture from Business Week of the real Ruettigger on the bench in the real 1975 ND-GT football game; note the players' names on the jerseys.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/06/0610_speakers/image/5_daniel_ruettiger.jpg
Sensei48 (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names On Jerseys In The Film 

message: While much of the trivia may be irrelevant, the "alterations" presents points at which the writers/director took liberties for dramatic purposes with the actual events. In the case of Wiki articles on movies based on actual events, such a section is fairly standard and serves to illustrate the points at which fact and fiction diverge. See, for example, Lawrence of Arabia (film). Sensei48 (talk) 06:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It may help to read WP:FILMHIST.  I recommend restoring only the items backed by references, and reviewing them to make sure that the references are to reliable sources.  It's not unprecedented to mention changes, but it helps to explain the purpose behind them and how the changes were received. Erik (talk | contribs | wt:film) 16:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  RV 9/23 

message: Joe Montana was a guest on the Dan Patrick Show today (9/08/10), and confirmed that the jersey scene never happened. Joe was a member of the team when the "real" Rudy played in the game. If someone has a good wp:rs for this radio program it could be added. The Eskimo (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Further Confirmation that the Jersey Scene Didn't Happen

message: Said that it received primarily positive reviews from critics.  No citation, I deleted it.  Looked at rotten tomatoes, average review was 6.8/10. That is a "D" for you mathematicians out there. Tired of wiki bs  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.133.129.157 (talk) 02:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The BS is that Wiki permits a puerile, silly, and definitely not WP:RS site like Rotten Tomatoes to soil its movie articles.  Call the section "critical reception," source it from real film critics, and lose the RT altogether.(which, useless as it is, actually rates the movie as 88% liking it out of  21,000 votes)Sensei48 (talk) 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I retitled the section as above and added sourced reviews from some major league critics.Sensei48 (talk) 04:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  reception 

message: For some reason, Greta Lind is listed as the 4th star in the credits (after Astin 1st, Favreau 2nd, and Beatty 3rd). While I disagree that she is the 4th most important person in the movie, I don't understand why she was not listed on the credits list in this article at all. I did edit the page to put her in, but I'm curious as to the rationale for leaving her out in the first place.
76.106.223.68 (talk) 04:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stars 

message: Why is the run time such a strange, decimal number? 73.9.123.76 (talk) 00:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Run time