Talk:Final Fantasy IV (2007 video game)

message: If someone wants to add something, here's an English interview with lots of nifty details. Kariteh 17:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interview 

message: Has there been any new news on this mentioned at E3 this last week. I've been looking, but i haven't really been able to find anything new. I was hoping there would be some new info, or at least an NA release date revealed this week.The Great Morgil 19:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't part of the E3 line-up, I'm afraid. EvilRedEye 19:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  E3 News 

message: the PSP article of FF wikia has FFIV: 20th FF anniversary on list. someone please confirm this.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/PSP WizzieBlue 03:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like wishful thinking -- the person added it back in May, and no game sites that I know at least reported it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I see no chance that a random poster from a Wiki would know of this months in advance of sites like IGN, Gamespot etc. It has also been removed and was likely simply subtle vandalism. --67.71.77.222 22:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this DS exclusive? 

message: I don't do much with wikipedia, but if anyone regularly checks this, you can update it with some of the new screenshots and CG that have been released through Famitsu. A few online sites have the new stuff. Some of the screenshots show how the dual-screen will be put to use. 156.56.194.113 05:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Updates 

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replies: text: Fair use fixed by PresN. — Blue。 19:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:FFIVDS.JPG

message: The result was No merge. — Blue。 17:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge.  I see no need for a separate article for the same game on a different system. KyuuA4 07:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same game, but it's hugely remade. Considering there is going to be not only the complete graphical overhaul, voice actor addition, and  most likely at least some gameplay changes due to it being on DS, it's ALSO going to have a lot of extra main story content. So why should it be merged again? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I'll retract on grounds to retain the featured status of the main FF4 article.  As for the 75% of the missing story, naturally that'll have to wait.  However, I have to express concern regarding "future" remakes and separate articles for those games. KyuuA4 04:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one don't believe it'll be 75%, and think that's a large misconception on what was said and/or meant, but at the moment it IS what reliable sources say. And it really depends -- games like this are different enough that a different article is warrented, simply because keeping it all as one would either kill too much info, or make the page too long. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 10:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: No merge: per Melodia. Notable enough for a separate article. Why? A separate article can convey every reputable information on game development, additional plot, and reception of the newer game. — Blue。 19:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

text: No merge: Same here. I believe Melodia says it all. And we would end up making a separate article later anyway, once more info is released. HeroOfVirtue 23:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Final Fantasy IV DS JP boxart.JPG

message: Since this game has been out for some time in Japan, I think all occurrances of future tense within this article should be changed to present tense. Kouban (talk) 05:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verb tenses 

message: I just got the latest issue of NP mag, and not only does it have a full cover article on the game, complete with developer interview, but also list the date as "7/08". No specific date, just the month, but at least we now know it's coming.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Great Morgil (talk • contribs) 02:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does Nintendo Power count as a "reliable" source by Wiki standards? Sir Chocobo (talk) 22:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finally, a US release! 

message: All Final Fantasy game articles contain information on the voice actors who portray characters where appropriate. In Final Fantasy articles with extensive 'Character' sections the information goes there (or in the relevant split article) but there is no such thing for Final Fantasy IV. The lack of a voice actor list in the article for FFX is given as a reason for removing the list for this article in an edit summary but this information is contained in Characters of Final Fantasy X and X-2 in list format. I don't mind if this information is presented in a different way but I don't think there's any justification for removing it from the article wholesale. EvilRedEye (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In all honesty it's an ugly section solo. It would be better off having the Audio portion merged with Development, and the list placed on the right side of the page in-line with the development section until a more expansive audio section can be created.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I see that FFX cleanly does it, while this article doesn't really do it carefully at all and just makes a mess with it. If you want to make it different, make it different, don't just leave a messy list up there. - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably worth mentioning that since the game'll be out in the West before too long, it's probably a good idea to make sure that whatever change we make is 'future-proof', there's no point in having to have this discussion again once data on the English voice actors is added. EvilRedEye (talk) 13:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I've edited the table so it more closely resembles the one for FFX. Thoughts? I'm not sure its really necessary to include the characters' full names. EvilRedEye (talk) 17:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i think it looks fine, and it was a good idea to leave a list for when the english version arrives. there was also no reason to remove this - many of the voice actors there are prolific or professional talents from japan, and it was also mentioned a few times in the official game blog. removing it for being 'ugly' wasn't a good reason, or had anything to do with wiki's standards for quality.92.0.45.112 (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice actor list 

message: The citation for the European release date is the listing from an online retailer. Is this a reliable source, as I thought retailers often just stick up a conservative estimate so they can start taking preorders. I could have sworn there was some policy or other mentioning the use of online retailers as sources somewhere. EvilRedEye (talk) 13:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  European release date 

message: I went ahead and removed the English Voice Actors as there wasn't a source for them.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 03:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed them again. Two weren't sourced, and the third linked to Anime News Network, which is not a reliable source. Sources for Voice Actors should come from Nintendo or Square-Enix. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 08:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually those aren't really third-party sources, so aren't ideal. EvilRedEye (talk) 13:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think something like this, a first party source should be used. It's basically the same thing they did for Super Smash Bros. Brawl.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just making a point really. I think the source that will end up being used will probably be some sort of official one. It doesn't mean that information from other reliable sources should be removed in the interim though. EvilRedEye (talk) 09:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: You should go read WP:RS again. 'We' don't know for sure, perhaps, but we assume that something generally considered a reliable source will be reliable. Official 1st party sources are fine for neutral facts but they aren't necessarily the only things we need to rely on either. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't consider Anime News Network a reliable source. It is along the lines of IMDB for Anime.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 18:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i don't understand your remark here. imdb and anime news network have sourced a huge number of articles on wikipedia (including the voice actor articles), even some featured ones. i don't see anything that proves they're unreliable. what you don't consider reliable is irrelevant because that is quite personal. where has wiki said it was unreliable before?92.3.59.122 (talk) 15:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Voice Actors 

message: At the bottom of the page, several of the tags are broken, resulting in (among other things) the reception section being completely mislocated. --Arperry (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tags broken 

message: Hmm, it certainly is small, isn't it? Someone should fix that, it shouldn't be too hard to do. That'd probably be a pretty big push towards GA, if this article had a good reception section completed. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: "It was released as part of the campaign for Final Fantasy series 20th anniversary... "
Does anyone have any reference for this sentence?--Prima.philosophiaD.C 08:01, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Fantasy series 20th anniversary

message: I've been thinking if we should rename this article due to no longer being exclusive to Nintendo DS. I think "Final Fantasy IV (3D remake)" should be its new name. What do you all think?Lucia Black (talk) 07:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Support-makes perfect sense.Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll move it soon if anyone doesn't object within a few days.Lucia Black (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Final Fantasy IV 3D Remake" name proposal