Talk:Lagerstroemia

message: I'm going to remove the hyphen in the common name.  My justification is that I simply do not see the name hyphenated elsewhere based on a web search, consulting two paper dictionaries, consulting two e-dictionaries, and looking at the Crape Myrtle Society web site—no hyphens.  Even this page is not consistent in its use of the hyphen.  Wikispecies does not use it, nor does the Wikipedia's page for Lagerstroemia indica. I see in this page's history the hyphens were inserted back in 2007, not in the original submission.  If an editor wants hyphens, that's OK by me, just undo my change.  But please explain just to satisfy my curiosity.   Pinethicket (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Neither Hyphen nor Space should be in the common name

message: Is this plant really known in Texas as the "Cuddle Tree"?  Rojomoke (talk) 09:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed unsourced.  Rojomoke (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cuddle Tree? 

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message: There's an image with a caption claiming the crepe myrtle in said picture is 100 feet tall; which is ridiculous.  It's only twice as tall as a 1-story building, or about 6 times as tall as the pickup truck in the foreground or car in the background.  I'd estimate it no more than 30-40 feet tall at the most.  If no one objects, I'm going to remove the height entirely.  --Jayron32 20:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I don't know what it should say, as I am not an expert on this subject, but I agree the height is inappropriate for the image. BrentRockwood (talk) 13:09, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption of image 

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message: I am new and inexperienced to Wikipedia editing, so please feel free to let me know if I am doing something wrong. I will not take offense.
I disagree that the common English name for a plant or other thing can be dictated or changed by scientists who study and know all about that thing. They have every right—and perhaps the duty—to make up scientific names that are logical and reasonable. So, I think it is perfectly appropriate that scientific papers use "Lagerstroemia" or "crapemyrtle" or "crape-myrtle" as the scientists think appropriate. I have no quarrel with naming the crape myrtle page "Lagerstroemia" since that is more technical and more precise. However it is just plain wrong to say that "crape myrtle" is a misspelling. It is not, but is instead the most correct version of the common English name. 
The English language is not dictated or controlled by a central authority as is French. Instead, the names attached to things in common English (as opposed to scientific nomenclature) are set by the way English-speaking people speak and write. The name "crape myrtle" (as two words) dates to at least as early as 1850, and is the most accepted version of the name by language authorities. It is the spelling for the main entry in Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed.). That book has NO listing for "crapemyrtle" or "crape-myrtle" and lists "crepe myrtle" as a variant of "crape myrtle" dating back to at least 1916. Bryan Garner, a respected authority in English usage, lists the term as "crape myrtle" and lists "crepe myrtle" as a misspelling. (No mention of "crapemyrtle" or "crape-myrtle"). (Garner's Modern English Usage, 4th ed. 2016 Oxford University Press). 
If you want additional evidence as to how the terms are used in printed matter over many decades, Google's ngram viewer shows "crape myrtle" has historically been the most frequent spelling, except for 1910 to 1956 when "crepe myrtle" was more popular. "Crapemyrtle" has always been a very-distant third place since its inception. 
See Google ngrams comparison.
With all due respect to Dr. Whitcomb, who no doubt knows far more about crape myrtles than I ever will, scientists do not get to pick what is the "correct" common English word. They only get to pick the "correct" scientific term. Using a term approved and preferred by authorities like Merriam-Webster should not be called a "misspelling."  
 I think the page should use "crape myrtle" throughout, with the exception of the introductory paragraph where it should give an accurate account of "Lagerstroemia" and "crapemyrtle" as more precise or preferred scientific terms (but not the most common English name), and where "crepe myrtle" should be listed as a common misspelling or spelling variant. Glengalbraith (talk) 03:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Crape myrtle" (with a space) is the oldest, most accepted, most commonly used, and therefore most correct version of the common name.