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Talk:The Bard (Sibelius)

message: Hello, fellow Sibelian and welcome to the wonderful world of the Sibelius tone poems! I am sure we are of one mind: the 13 Sibelius examples in this form represent, along with his seven symphonies and the violin concerto, the height of his orchestral powers. As such, I have taken the liberty over the last year of giving some of these tone poems (namely, The Wood Nymph and The Oceanides) the expanded treatment I think they deserve. 
As part of this expansion project, I have added infoboxes onto each of the tone poem pages (save for Finlandia and  Luonnotar and two that don't yet exist, The Dryad and Pan and Echo) to assist our readers in having the most important information about each piece at their fingertips. I feel that standardization of infobox information and form is something we should strive to maintain among these pieces, and as such, I suggest that any changes be agreed to by the community. If you're interested, I have the following opinions:
# Let's keep the picture of Sibelius the same for all his compositions, so as to create the feel of 'articles in a series'
# Let's have the opening title be the name in English (unless the native title is more famous, e.g., En saga)
# Let's include 'native name' or 'English name' below the picture if the piece goes by more than one name
# Let's have the form (e.g., tone poem) appear up-top next to the composer's name
# Let's include the average duration
# Let's have the caption under the image of Sibelius be "The composer in 1913"
# Let's keep the dates of composition/revision (important for some pieces, e.g., the Fifth Symphony, consistent with List of compositions by Jean Sibelius
# Let's have each infobox include information on 'movements', even if it is only one; this provides standardization among pieces. 
Okay, thanks for reading! If you are so inclined to add the infobox to the seven symphonies (or the four tone poems mentioned above) or some of his incidental music, please be my guest. My focus, for now, is on the tone poems.
Sgvrfjs (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox usage and editing on Sibelius tone poems
Talk:Spring Song (Sibelius)

message: Hello, fellow Sibelian and welcome to the wonderful world of the Sibelius tone poems! I am sure we are of one mind: the 13 Sibelius examples in this form represent, along with his seven symphonies and the violin concerto, the height of his orchestral powers. As such, I have taken the liberty over the last year of giving some of these tone poems (namely, The Wood Nymph and The Oceanides) the expanded treatment I think they deserve. 
As part of this expansion project, I have added infoboxes onto each of the tone poem pages (save for Finlandia and  Luonnotar and two that don't yet exist, The Dryad and Pan and Echo) to assist our readers in having the most important information about each piece at their fingertips. I feel that standardization of infobox information and form is something we should strive to maintain among these pieces, and as such, I suggest that any changes be agreed to by the community. If you're interested, I have the following opinions:
# Let's keep the picture of Sibelius the same for all his compositions, so as to create the feel of 'articles in a series'
# Let's have the opening title be the name in English (unless the native title is more famous, e.g., En saga)
# Let's include 'native name' or 'English name' below the picture if the piece goes by more than one name
# Let's have the form (e.g., tone poem) appear up-top next to the composer's name
# Let's include the average duration
# Let's have the caption under the image of Sibelius be "The composer in 1913"
# Let's keep the dates of composition/revision (important for some pieces, e.g., the Fifth Symphony, consistent with List of compositions by Jean Sibelius
# Let's have each infobox include information on 'movements', even if it is only one; this provides standardization among pieces. 
Okay, thanks for reading! If you are so inclined to add the infobox to the seven symphonies (or the four tone poems mentioned above) or some of his incidental music, please be my guest. My focus, for now, is on the tone poems.
Sgvrfjs (talk) 18:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox usage and editing on Sibelius tone poems
Talk:Joseph Szydlowski

message: He signed his patents as Josef Szydlowski, is remembered is France as Joseph (usual local spelling), yet the Turbomeca page refers to him as Yosef Shidlovsky. Is that his name in Hebrew? PpPachy 21:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling
Talk:Symphony No. 3 (Sibelius)

message: A pretty good essay on this symphony, but some parts are maybe a tad POV. For example, "a manner that is brilliant in its simplicity," "a movement of supreme clarity," and "with woodwinds and horns providing masterful, touching comments." Not sure how to clean this up! Opus131 (talk) 02:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All such statements need to quote a specific reliable source, and there should not be too many of them in any case. The problem here is that if the author is copying text directly from the book mentioned it is a copyright violation and if not it is original research and, as you say, own point of view. Other authors have also been adding information without providing sources so the whole article as, from the point of view of sourcing and reliability, a mess. The phrases you have quoted, and anything similar, should probably be removed. --Mirokado (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Watch out: if saying that a musical passage is "clear" is a copyright infringement, there is no language to talk about music here (and I'm not against technical language, but sometimes to describe a musical bar is meaningless to the general signification of a work of music). --Leonardo T. Oliveira (talk) 18:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's no issue with "clear" (as long as it's sourced).  But "a movement of supreme clarity" is not a form of words that people typically use, and hence it can be reasonably identified as coming from a particular source, and hence a cut and paste job.  "... a manner that is brilliant in its simplicity" is not exactly a household expression either.  We can certainly use words taken from sources to some degree, but all these are doing is parrotting someone else's POV.  I'm sure we could find a source that's nowhere near as adulatory about the alleged clarity and brilliant simplicity of this passage.   --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 19:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic? 

message: I see music (audio) clips placed in this article but I don't hear music. My browser, or a problem with the page source?
107.77.221.116 (talk) 09:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music (audio) clips? 

message: The second theme of the first movement appears to be incorrectly quoted. The 4th and 5th notes should be D - C, not B - A as shown. See for example this recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZST63q-vGM with the second theme appearing at 0:37"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.179.215 (talk) 13:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. intforce (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Score error
Talk:Symphony No. 5 (Sibelius)

message: Why does it have a separate page? This should defintely be incorporated into this article and expanded for the other movements. Centy</font> – [reply]• contribs – 23:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sibelius Symphony No. 5 (First movement)|First Movement]] 

message: So, I'm guessing whatever WPedian wrote that the quotation in "Beach Baby" is "too fleeting or too approximate to be other than coincidental" did not listen to the end of the song.  At the end, the band cuts out and french horns (not heard until now in the song) play the swan call.  It's totally unambiguous.  Editing.  --75.83.153.92 (talk) 19:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beach Baby 

message: In Finland, the symphony and especially its confident finale are often connected with the country winning independence in 1917 - around the time when Sibelius was revising it. The 1915 version doesn't sound near as assured or grand in its outlines and details. The swan-call motif and the six final, measured tutti chords do suggest an expression of triumph against adversity, making the work a counterpart of the earlier Finlandia.83.254.151.33 (talk) 06:36, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The finale 

message: The very first sentence of the article states "... three movements that typically lasts around 33 minutes" while the Structure section states that "the duration is approximately 32 minutes".  Perhaps this is nitpicking, but shouldn't these two timings be consistent (if not redundant)?
Raaronson (talk) 13:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duration 

message: The Reprise from Spirited Away quotes it.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.231.147.166 (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other pieces quoting the swan-call
Talk:Joseph Yu Kai Wong

message: I've added some citations, and will try to come back to format them properly. I know this person personally and will verify the info that I can. --Jasonnolan (talk) 21:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Symphony No. 8 (Sibelius)

message: Have to say I liked the old opening paragraph ('one of the great mysteries', very arresting). Is it inaccurate? Rothorpe (talk) 00:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not inaccurate, but the wording is maybe a little too subjective for the opening of a neutral encyclopedia article. I have opened a peer review (see link, above), and any general comments you care to make on the artile can be raised there. Brianboulton (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead

message: I am fascinated by the bound copy of an unnumbered symphony, which seems to me to be the crux of the story. It's not clear from the article whether the other bound symphonies were Sibelius's ms. or the copyist's. Also it's not clear whether Sibelius had other things bound by this company or only his own symphonies (or own compositions). If the binding company only did his own works, and the  bindings were the copyist's versions, then it is highly likely I think that the the bound copy was a complete eighth symphony; one does not send such things to the binders until one is, at least temporarily,  satisified. But clearly it wasn't, on Sibelius's further consideration, the Eighth Symphnoy of his heart's desire. There are two incompatible stories running in parallel in the article - the story of the symphony which was never written, but which Sibelius pretended was in progress; and the far more tragic story of the symphony which was written, but just failed to live up to what S. wanted it to be. The bound copy could point to the second storyline. Glad I've got that out of my system, apologies for spamming the page.--Smerus (talk) 19:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This thoughtful conjecture would make an excellent conclusion to a magazine article on the Eighth, but until such an article is published and I can cite it, I can't incorporate it here. Everything about the nature of what was bound in 1938 is circumstantial; we only have the bill which refers to the binding of a "Symphonie". It may have been the Eighth. I don't there is much more that can be said with any certainty. Brianboulton (talk) 21:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The bound copy

message: Very enjoyable article, kudos to all involved!-- Elmidae 07:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{great}} 
Talk:Torsion dystonia

message: This page needs more internal links to other Wikipedia articles, particularly in the list of subtypes. WhatamIdoing 00:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikify

message: I'm a bit confused on what disease this page is about. It appears to be talking about the disease known as: early onset primary torsin dystonia, which is sometimes just known as torsin dystonia or DYT1 dystonia. That is the name of the disease in which is related to the DYT1 mutation mentioned in the causes section.
Then under the section classification. It doesn't talk about the classification of the disease but insead talks about other dystonias, none of which have anything to do with the DYT1 mutant disease. Some of these are late onset dystonia and some are secondary dystonias. They shouldn't be mentioned in the body of the article. If they were to be mentioned it should be in a see also section or linked via a catergory grouping of all dystonias. Also as far as I known there are no papers linking the DYT1 mutation to any of the other dystonias as mentioned in this article, the DYT1 mutant has only been found in individuals who suffers from torsin dystonia (ie early onset, symptoms starting as focal and may generalise over time) and is not present in any other dystonia. Lidabet (talk) 12:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Confused

message: Here are two scientific papers that find a strong correlation between torsion dystonia and high I.Q.
:* The Hereditary Torsion Dystonias (Dystonia Musculorum Deformans): Geographical Distribution and IQ in Dominant and Recessive Forms
:::Data obtained on a group of patients with the autosomal recessive form of TD and their siblings indicate that the gene for recessive TD increases intelligence.
:* Superior intelligence in recessively inherited torsion dystonia
:::The mean I.Q. of the patients was 121 (range 104-170) and that of their controls was 111 (range 76-147). This difference is significant (p<0.03). These data suggest that the gene for torsion dystonia enhances I.Q.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slartibartfastibast (talk • contribs) 00:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  HTD and IQ 
Talk:Alan Mowbray

message: To say that Chandler's reference "is not about Mowbray" is silly. We have here a contemporary of Mowbray commenting on the social and class issues of the 1930s by way of the actor's screen persona.
How does this violate wiki guidelines on the presentation of literary references with respect to historical figures?.  36hourblock (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chandler/Mowbray
Talk:Alan Napier

message: I don't know how to use the copyright templates but the first paragraph under "Early life and career" is practically word for word copy from AllMovie.--Nedergard (talk) 13:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've dealt with the WP:COPYVIO issues. Better late than never. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation 

message: The Internet Movie Database and the site CelebHeights have Napier at 6'6 (1.98m). He certainly looks that tall on screen, since he towers over Sean Connery (in Alfred Hitchcock's "Marnie") and Adam West (in the "Batman" TV series), who are both 6'2. Therefore, this 6ft 4.5in reference in the article is probably wrong. MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 21:52, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly, but you can't use IMDb or your own eyeballs as a reference. Go forth and find thyself a reliable source. After a bit of thought, I've added the disagreement in the text itself. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:07, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

text: Many thanks, Clarityfiend. My intention was just to contribute this piece of information. If I find a reliable source as per Wikipedia standards, I'll include it in the article. MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 16:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Napier's height 

message: The information on his spouses is in error. The dates specifically overlap and extend longer than he lived. Anyone have correct information? Mapnick (talk) 12:14, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: First marriage was 1930 in UK, divorced 1944, Second marriage 1944, I don't know where. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 16:04, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spouse information incorrect
Talk:Alan Ridout

message: The article has disproportionately much about the Leicestershire Schools Symphony Orchestra, making it unbalanced, so could do with more on other things (or less on this). Ben Finn (talk) 19:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Might it be possible, please, to get an RS for the correct pronunciation of his surname? DBaK (talk) 21:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I knew him personally and pronunciation is as expected: "rid" - "out", stress on the first syllable. Lawrence18uk (talk) 19:48, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The Independent obituary refers to him becoming Dir of Music at a Preparatory School in Kent in 1955 - anyone know which one? St David's Prep in West Wickham (a speculative guess)? Lawrence18uk (talk) 20:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early teaching years
Talk:Alan Sealey

message: Hi guys, Just wanted to put it out there that there are family ties to Syd Puddefoot. "" states that Alan was related to Louise Sealey, Syd's aunt. I wasn't planning on adding this (at least not unless I came across something more definite about the details of the relationship), and some might see it as trivia anyway, but interesting nonetheless! Nzd (talk) 13:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to Syd Puddefoot 
Talk:Joyce Chen (chef)

message: I recall her having her own cooking show on the local Boston PBS station in the mid-1960s, before she went national. Am I confused? Bellagio99 (talk) 01:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joyce Chen on TV before 1968? 

message: Whoever wrote this did so in the first person ... hello? Irish Melkite (talk) 00:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Joyce_Chen's_Son_-_Stephen_Chen apparently contributed to this article. RegistryKey (talk) 23:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Joyce_Chen's_Son_-_Stephen_Chen has had difficulties following WP:COI guidelines, and has been warned.  The article has been flagged for cleanup, with Template:COI.  Reify-tech (talk) 14:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Person???? 

message: Two previous photographs have been used in the article, and were good representations of Joyce Chen's actual appearance and work.  They were overwritten without any discussion, and made temporarily unavailable for inclusion in the article.  The uploader of the photos, User:Joyce_Chen's_Son_-_Stephen_Chen, is hereby invited to restore the overwritten pictures, under new appropriate names.  At least one of the photos should be re-added to the article, which currently has only an artistic interpretation of Joyce Chen, removed from the context of her work.  Reify-tech (talk) 14:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographs were removed 

message: * 
Refers to a TIME article called "Fortune's Cookie"... which is available:
* 
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some sources
Talk:Alastair Pilkington

message: - Is there any evidence that Karl is related to him? As an obsessive fan from the Pilkipedia website I've never seen any proof. Anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.177.224 (talk) 14:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

message: here is your reliable source for the infobox, https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbm.2022.0025 if you have problems with the peerage source, then you can add it to wikidata, rather than edit warring. Juanails (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:DEPS - the Peerage is generally prohibited as a source, and if you want to include the information you will need to address the sourcing yourself. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  infobox
Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Biblical Prophecy Fulfilled

message: Do Not Delete - Millions of educated and knowledgeable scholars consider the Bible the single most important and accurate document ever compiled in human history. He is using good research regarding "prophesy" since he is going directly to the Bible, the origin of "prophesy" on the Jewish nation.  
The other comments made thus far are speaking from their feelings instead of knowledge.  Read the verses stated by this researcher, they are not out of line in the context of the topic.  
Regardless if we agree with his opinion or not, even controversial topics such as this can be good research, should be kept and respected.
Bible reading is an education in itself. --Lord Tennyson 
Steven--Steven1968 13:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Talk:ᵫ

message: Could we maybe get a picture?  The letter isn't showing up on my computer.Cameron Nedland 13:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not your computer. The article is about the symbol that comes up when you have unrecognized characters. Cool Bluetalk to me 19:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's not. The article is about the UE ligature. -- Prince Kassad 10:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I don't know how often it was mentioned that this is the UE ligature, but despite that the closing administrator made this article redirect to Question Mark, which is wrong. Someone should change the redirect to a more appropriate article. -- Prince Kassad 17:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect is wrong
Talk:Water chevrotain

message: I created a distribution map of this mammal and uploaded it to commons. It is found here. The source is mentioned there. I don't know how to add it to the template, so I leave it to you. Yours, Ybk33 20:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distribution map 

message: Diet? Predators? Is it widely hunted by humans? This information is commonly missing from WKP animal articles. And why is it called the 'fanged deer'?Centrepull (talk) 02:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info required
Talk:Albert Anker

message: Reference 1 gives a 404 error - I though that was because of an inverted /, which I replaced, but it's still broken. Anyone know the correct URL? Olaf Davis | Talk 19:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, actually, the inverted / is correct; I replaced it again and it works for me now. Maybe it needs to be encoded as http://www.sikart.ch/artikel%5C4000009.pdf?  Sandstein  06:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it works for me too now. Sorry about that. Olaf Davis | Talk 13:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 404s
Talk:Kesterson Reservoir

message: The link contained in footnote 1 is broken; it does not lead to anything other than a page asserting that the link isn't working correctly.  Doug 13:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Main Link 

message: Can I make the suggestion that a wikipedia search link to this article under the name Kesterson Slough be added? I was in California and involved in California agriculture when the problem of selenium build up causing harm to migratory birds and other wildlife was discovered at Kesterson, and in the media and articles in agricultural publications at the time, the name back then was Kesterson Slough. I had a bit of time finding it today because I did a search under the name in current and popular use back then, no one called it Kesterson Reservoir. Thanks! Linstrum (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kesterson SLOUGH!
Talk:Albert Bond Lambert

message: I propose the merger of this article with Albert Lambert. It seems that it's the same person in two different articles that cover different aspects of his life. Note that the dates of birth and death are the same. --Voyager (talk) 16:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: For the amusement of whoever reads this:  I removed :Category:American police chiefs from this article.  I see no source for the claim that he was a police chief, but versions of that claim have been hanging around since this article was first written in 2006.  I think it's a misunderstanding, tracing back to a biography that said he was on a Board of Police Commissioners, but that seems to be a regular-citizen role on a monitoring board, not a police chief role. If he was in any way a police chief, just cite a solid source. -- econterms (talk) 12:06, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a police chief