Talk:Asceticism

message: Hello, I randomly came across this article and noticed it makes some unusual claims about Zoroastrianism that are unlikely to be true. Though I am not an expert in Zoroastrian history, beliefs, and practices, I would like to ask the editors of this page to consider redacting or modifying what is written about Zoroastrianism to make sure it is based on facts and sound scholarship. For example, the wording of the article suggests that Zoroastrianism advocates a form of hedonism in principled opposition to asceticism, which is a baseless claim as far as I know. The given source in the article mention that Zoroastrians practiced moderation and rejected hedonism as well as asceticism.
The sub-topic farther down in the article which tries to explain how Zoroastrianism is against asceticism is nonsensical and was likely not written by any qualified scholar. (What does asceticism have to do, if anything, with "good thoughts, good words, good deeds" or keeping chaos at bay?) Even the reference to Encyclopedia Britannica which is provided, that claims that Zoroastrianism "forbids" fasting should be verified. I would like to see where in the Avesta it says this; the following article from a more reputable source says that fasting is only "implicitly" rejected in Zoroastrian tradition and does not anywhere mention its prohibition in the Avesta: http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/fasting  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.38.123.218 (talk) 20:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on Zoroastrianism 

message: The sections you have added about mythology etc seem undue, offtopic and POV/OR. For example, you added WP:Coatrack content such as,
:Quote: "Nagas are a group if rishis in the RV. Snakes are also known as "nagas", and amongst the RV mendicants, there are ones identified belonging to a Naga group."
Please explain how such mythology is consistent with WP:Due content guidelines, in this article on asceticism? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:OR and WP:Undue 

message: @S Khemadhammo has proposed a merger of this article and Mortification of the flesh.
===Comments===
*Oppose: Asceticism comes in many varieties some of which does not include mortification of flesh, as this article and the cited sources explain. Similarly, there are ritual practices that involve "mortification of the flesh", such as Magdarame in Philippines during the Christian holy week and Tatbir among Shia Muslims. This mortification has little to do with a life of asceticism. Two different topics these are, and therefore we should retain two different wikipedia articles for these topics. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:51, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point. My main reason for suggesting the merger is that the article about mortification is only focused on Christianity. Merging it into the article on Ascetism might have solved this.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 20:55, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: *Oppose: Asceticism comes in many varieties some of which does not include mortification of flesh, as this article and the cited sources explain. Similarly, there are ritual practices that involve "mortification of the flesh", such as Magdarame in Philippines during the Christian holy week and Tatbir among Shia Muslims. This mortification has little to do with a life of asceticism. Two different topics these are, and therefore we should retain two different wikipedia articles for these topics. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:51, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point. My main reason for suggesting the merger is that the article about mortification is only focused on Christianity. Merging it into the article on Ascetism might have solved this.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 20:55, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: Aren't Wiki pages usually written in a chronological timeline when talking about the history of something?JanderVK (talk) 15:56, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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