Talk:The Jim Rome Show/Archive 2

message: *(JRIB has been created)
*Can someone list all the jumbled names that Rome uses for the US women's soccer team?  I don't think that the "Mia Chastadonahamm" in the listing is completely right, as I've heard him use two or three names that have jumbled first names as well as last names. 
*Where does the handle "Iafrate" come from?  I finally heard Rome use it yesterday, so I at least know how to pronounce it, but I don't get it. 
*(this point's been addressed) Willbyr 19:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Rome Is Burning, soccer, Iafrate, and the weird laugh 

message: Doctorindy, I'm going to move your addition in the section on Rafael Palmeiro (which I originally wrote-how'd I do?) into the middle of the paragraph so it flows with the point about Rome liking to dissect the soundbite instead of it being soundbite-"Ratfael"-soundbite in terms of the stuff being mentioned.  Willbyr 06:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Palmeiro listing

message: For informational purposes, here is the text of the exchange between the Crazy woman (Lori) and the 9-1-1 operator (Mike Forbess)
*Operator: 9-1-1 what is your emergency?
*Woman: Yes, I need a police officer over here
*Operator: What's going on?
*Woman: I've got two teenage daughters, and I just got home from work, they were physically fighting with each other and one of them kicked a hole in a door, and they're tweleve and almost fourteen, and the twelve-year old is completely out of control, I can't, physically she's as big as I am, I can't control her
*Operator: OK, did you want us to come over and shoot her...[silence]...Are you there?
*Woman: Excuse me?
*Operator: Uh, that's a joke...ok...
*Woman: Who are you? What is your name?
*Operator: Mike Forbess
*Woman: OK, that's not funny Mike
*Operator: OK, I'm sorry
*Woman: Guess what, I'm going to file a formal complaint
*Operator: That's...I don't blame you a bit
*Woman: 'Cause you know what, this is really not very funny
*Operator: I know it's not ma'am
*Woman: Guess what, it's not going to be very funny when I go in front of your supervisor and tell, him
*Operator: I understand
*Woman: I guess he can listen to the tape
*Operator: Yes he can, I'm sorry, I apologize
*Woman: Well, sorry doesn't cut it, I need a police officer...
*Operator: Well hold on...
**Later in the call the operator explained that the police were on assignment, and that he'd get them over to her house as soon as possible. The woman responded, sarcastically "Well don't be in a hurry."
Doctorindy 18:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crazy Woman and 9-1-1- Operator

message: Even as I may be a fan of the show and as I readily concede that it is useful for prospective listeners to have an enumeration of information such as that in the article itself and supra, but I certainly believe the article to be in need of a complete rewrite in view, inter al., of WP:WWIN, to-wit, the provisions relative to Wikipedia's not being a free blog, an indiscriminate collection of information, or a repository of original research, which, arguably, most of the article is.  There are similar subcultures associated with sundry other television and radio programs (e.g., Family Guy, Seinfeld, or The Simpsons) but the articles for most other similarly-situated programs are better formatted and, in any case, more encyclopedic.  Though surely some of the information on the page ought to be removed straightaway, still other data should be added to subpages or new pages.  The cleanup tag was appropriate as far as it went, but I do not believe that the article is sufficiently proximate to appropriate to merit any tag other than that requiring a complete rewrite (the tone, syntax, and grammar, of course, are, passim, poor).  I am certain that there will be those amongst the watchers of this page who will disagree vehemently with my tagging, and I hope that we might here discuss the issue and that the tag will not be cursorily removed absent a consensus for such removal.  Most appropriate, though, would be our cooperation to produce a page consistent with the goals and standards of Wikipedia.  Joe 06:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete rewrite tag

message: Alright, here's what I've come up with.  What I tried to do was stay with the general layout of the present article, keeping as many of the main points as I could while trimming as much fat as I could.  Some stuff has been re-worded, rearranged, and condensed or expanded.  Dissect at leisure.
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Intro paragraph
(as is)
Highlights of the show
While the show has no set format, each broadcast is guaranteed to have certain set features:  Rome’s takes on whatever is making headlines in sports; interviews with athletes, coaches, other sports-related figures, and even actors doing sports-related work; and e-mails and calls from the show’s listeners.  What makes the show unique is the jargon, slang, and smack which permeates all aspects of the show, and the eccentricity of its regularly featured bits.  
Show Personnel
(added to article)
Regular Bits
(as is)
The Huge Call of the Day
(article edited to reflect)
Signature Music
(as is) 
Sound Drops
(as is)
Special shows
(DONE)
The Clones
(changed to Phone Callers)
Infamous Callers
(as is)
E-Mails
(article edited to reflect)
Guest Hosts
(no changes to this section)
References
(no changes to this section)
External links
(no changes to this section)
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Willbyr 05:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft rewrite of article

message: *I actually like, it. However I kind of think we should preserve more in one form or another. I would be in favor of going with that as the "main page," then creating sub-pages for in-depth looks at the Soundbites, Famous E-mails, Tour Stops, etc. Stuff like that seems to always warrant adding to the list, since new infamous soundbites/calls/emails seem to happen on a semi-monthly basis. I've noticed other similiar topics have "sub-pages" for in-depth looks, so it would not be without precident. Anyway, my $0.02 Doctorindy 13:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: *Moved discussion material to the Talk:Smack-Off discussion page Doctorindy 21:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Jim Rome "Smack-Off" Article 

message: I broke up the Callers section to highlight callers who bring something positive to the Jungle with their calls and/or are very well known in the Jungle as well as listing the cannon fodder calls.  However, the intro I've come up with for the "Famous Callers" section really sucks, but I can't think of a better way to say it right now, as I'm just about to fall out of my chair right now.  Can someone come up with something better?  Also, can someone add an entry on Orren (sp?) in Denver to the Famous Callers list? Thanks!Willbyr 06:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits to the Callers section

message: I'm not sure if this can qualify as a regular bit yet, but it has been mentioned on the show before. Jim was talking with Dhani Jones today, who's a bowtie guy. Jim has now declared seven members of the "Bowtie Revolution"...
*Dhani Jones, Tucker Carlson, Matthew Lesko, Pee Wee Herman, Mr. Peanut, Orville Redenbacher, Irving R. Levine, and the guy with the blue tux at the prom who "won't get laid that night" (although Jim doesn't count that last one ;) )
If he starts talking about it regularly, it might be worth considering. If it ends up it was just a one-day thing, it can stay off.
*The bowtie thing pretty much comes up when Rome is talking to or about Dhani Jones.  I don't think it worth putting into the article.  Too narrow. --Saxonjf 00:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bowtie Revolution

message: I changed up the order of some of the items in the Regular Bits to try to put all the stuff that Rome likes and dislikes together in the list.  It was a bit jumbled as it was.  Also, what do you think about putting "Rome's Likes" and "Rome's Dislikes" in the list and putting the various items that fit under those headings, like this (example):
*Rome's Likes - *explanation*
**Good Will Hunting
**etc.
*Rome's Dislikes - *explanation*
**Soccer
**Star Wars
**etc.
Yea/nay?  Willbyr 21:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes to Regular Bits section

message: *I was going through the Callers & Soundbites section, and I noticed that some could be plucked out and moved to a new header titled "Famous/Infamous Interviews." Of the soundbites, many he has are just from general news sources, etc., but several are from actual live show interviews. Thoughts? Doctorindy 14:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible New Category?---> "Famous Interviews"

message: (has been taken care of) Willbyr 22:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Soccer Parody

message: I wanted to clear up an issue concerning the fat twins on the motorcycles.  Some time ago, I decided to get the names of the guys on the motorcycles.  I put them down as Billy and Benny McCrary.  Today, I was corrected.  The fellow was correct inasfar as McGuire was their stage name.  McCrary was the twins' proper name.  I won't change it back, since many might remember them by their stages names, but that's why there was a difference.
Here's a website about their grave,
Fat Twins in a Huge Grave  --Saxonjf 19:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion on the Fat Twins 

message: *Moved content to Talk:Jim Rome Tour Stops to free up space here, as it is now appropriate to list it there Doctorindy 21:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Tour Stop Page

message: I changed the section titled "The Clones" to "Phone Calls" to try to make the page more reflect that aspect of the show, and since the info on the Clones is so limited.  Here's the text about the Clones, for preservation's sake:
:==The Clones==
The "Clones" are what Rome calls the listeners of the show. Their devotion to Rome along with their use of "smack" makes them different from normal people, but all the same as each other. Unfortunately, callers often only reiterate Rome's exact take on an issue. 
I think there's enough info floating around here and in other sources to make a separate article dedicated to the Clones that can be referenced in this article.  Critiques of the changes, please! Willbyr 05:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit to "The Clones" section

message: These can be found here.  Willbyr 23:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Userboxes for Rome

message: I've been trying to find links to reviews by noteworthy people in sports and media who are critical of Rome and of the Jungle and Rome's responses to any such criticism, but I haven't been able to find much of anything aside from blogs where people rant about the show.  Are there any such reviews out there?
Also, I believe I remember Rome saying something a few months ago to the effect that radio talk show hosts who proclaim that they take more phone calls from listeners than anyone else don't have anything to bring to the table themselves and are weak hosts.  I don't remember exactly what he said, but I think this could make a good addition to the page.  Anyone got that exact reference handy?
*The best reference I have heard in that area is from Smack-Off 2005 (no one knows that better than me, huh?).  He made it very plain that he believes that when some radio jock says " 'No one takes more calls than me; this show is about you, the caller,' What that guy is really say is 'No one has worked less and has less to say that I do.' " That's just about a word-for-word quote.  If you got on Stucknut.com, signed up and then got on the Takebox, you could find the quote. --The Saxon 01:43, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of the show, comments on content, and the whistle 

message: I noticed that a tag appeared during editing stating the main page was 74 something kb, which prompted it to mention it might be too high. I think that could be solved by creating a couple new sub-pages to dump some of the material on.
*Create one for say, "The Jim Rome Show (Famous Callers)"...cut and paste all of the callers (leave only an intro and link) to the new page, that way it could grow on its own, and new entires wouldn't have to be as infrequent
*Create a new one for say, "The Jim Rome Show (Soundbites)" and dump all of the soundbites over there, leaving only an intro on the main page.
*Perhaps, create another for The Jim Rome Show (E-mails)"...?
*Leave the "Regular Bits" section on the main page
*I think if we do that (dump that material onto sub pages, which has already been done for Tours Stops and Smack-off), and everyone is in agreement, in my opinion, it would make for significant changes that the page needed, and the re-write tag could be lifted...any thoughts? Doctorindy 14:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we could enlist the help of some of the folks at Stucknut...?
Willbyr 15:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional sub-pages for "Famous Callers" and for "Soundbites" ? 

message: I noticed that the rewrite tag was removed.  Since we haven't made any significant progress on adding new content to the page, and since the user that removed the tag apparently wasn't an admin, I'm replacing the tag. Willbyr 01:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite tag

message: I added Orrin in Denver to the list of Famous Callers, but I don't know if I spelled his name right and I'm not 100% sure that I got everything right about him.  Can someone double-check this info and correct it if necessary?  Thanks! Willbyr 05:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Orrin in Denver

message: Can someone clue me in on what exactly happened with Tim in Bend?  I don't understand the "Drew Brees Mole Blast" reference unless it's got something to do with him having a lot of moles, and I don't completely get what it was about his call that made Rome fly off the handle...was it just the crack about the interview, that and the mole crack, or something else?  Willbyr 05:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tim in Bend 

message: I have created a Wikicities page for The Jungle.  I intend to make this cover more than just The Jungle, but for right now it's a good place to stash a copy of the Wikipedia article in case someone chops it down.  Here's the link: The Jim Rome Show.  Willbyr 19:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rome Wiki 

message: *crickets chirping*
*Crickets are chiping here too...so to speak. Since few have seemed willing to take on the project, I'm about at the point where I think we've run out of new ideas for a "complete rewrite." I think enough positive changes have been made in the last 6 weeks or so, and outside of wiping it out, that the header for "complete rewrite" is no longer needed. I think the term "complete rewrite" is/was also quite a bit harsh, considering other pages that truely need rewrites. If anything, perhaps it should go back to tagged as needing [cleanup] 64.32.241.35 23:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the Famous Callers section:  Does anyone have ideas on writeups for Silk and Trapper?  Iafrate needs to be added as well, IMO.  Willbyr 16:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete Rewrite?

message: I added in a section about Rome's takes.  Whaddya think?  Willbyr 19:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Takes

message: The list of nicknames is starting to get a bit out of hand.  Should it be trimmed to only the most popular and well-known handles or left alone?  Willbyr 18:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name-calling

message: *Has Rome ever actually said that this is his favorite movie, or was he just quoting the Cablinasian's call from the '04 Smack-Off? 
*Since this talk page is getting so huge, something that might be helpful would be to archive the discussion at the top and each year's worth of edits and comments.  Yea/nay?  Willbyr 18:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Will Hunting, and archiving

message: Is this entry in the Soundbites section notable enough to deserve an entry?  In the time I've been listening to the show, I don't think I've heard this brought up before.  Willbyr 13:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cal Ripken, Jr.

message: *Did Jeff in Richmond coin "Thanks for the vine"?  So many Clones use that phrase that I was thinking about making a note of it in Jeff's entry.
*Is the new entry about Tommy in Detroit under Infamous Callers worth noting, since it implies that it's a recent thing?Willbyr 19:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE:  Since I have to listen to the show on a significant tape delay (1-4PM CST) I just heard the call from Tommy, and I can see Rome and the Clones getting some serious play from this, so maybe the entry should be left.  I'll edit it a bit.  Willbyr 20:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Coupla questions

message: Do we know for sure that Orrin is how its spelled?  I knew a guy named "Orrin" who spelled it "Aarun"
*I wrote it as Orrin, simply because when I hear that name that's the spelling that comes to mind.  I've seen it spelled "Oren," also.  I honestly don't know the proper spelling. Willbyr 20:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of Orrin? 

message: *I've moved the talk material from before 2006 to an archive page.  I'll try to archive every 6 months or so, so this page can be kept to a manageable size.
*Something that's been bugging me for a while is that the article is laden with slang that non-listeners might not be familiar with.  Would it be a good idea to include a small glossary of slang that's commonly used on the show? --Willbyr (talk | contribs) 05:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive and glossary

message: As much as I like to see pertinent information being added to the article, I think that a point of content saturation has been achieved.  The article is currently 100KB; I don't know how that stacks up to other similar articles, but it seems a bit excessive, especially since a lot of the recent additions have been for fairly recent events on the show.  Saxon, if you catch this, I'd like to go over the article section-by-section with you and see what could possibly be pared down or cut to streamline things a bit.  LMK if you'd be up for this. --Willbyr (talk | contribs) 05:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article size

message: He said on the June 22, 2006 edition that Hubie Brown was on the list of his smartest people Soxrock 01:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't take Hubie Brown out 

message: Is this really necessary? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard it also (first time). Make sure to sign your comments. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 19:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Growing a tail

message: How long is it necessary for Rome to keep using the "manual buzzer" for it to be included in the article. -Drdisque 01:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rome's used the manual buzzer before, but rather infrequently.  I debated including it in the list, but it's gotten so much play over the last coupla days that I figured it merited inclusion.  Like the "OORF!", I don't think it's going to die anytime soon, especially if Rome and Alvin keep playing with it like they did today. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Manual Buzzer