Talk:Hidden message

message: The reference to the 'yvan eht nioj' backmasking used in The Simpsons isn't entirely accurate. Backmasking is a recording technique, whereas in that episode, the text is merely pronounced as it is written in reverse. Evidence of this can be noted in the 't' sound in 'eht'. If the audio were backmasked it would be a softer 'th' sound in reverse, not a sharp 't'. 203.6.205.31 (talk) 03:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons reference not actually 'backmasking' 

message: This sidebar looks inappropriate in a scientific article. Consider removing the pattern recognition element.--Adoniscik (talk) 06:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pattern Recognition 

message: The first line of the article states that "backmasking" is not a correct term for backwards messages, but the term is then used throughout the rest of the article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.178.151 (talk • contribs) 
:fixed. TheJabberwock 21:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Backmasking" is incorrect... but? 

message: Is there already a article about backward messages in graphics? For example, if you flip the Coca-Cola logo, you supposedly get a arabic word about how bad allah is, or something.
There are also Ambigrams, which can be flipped (and usually read the same as in correct order).
Another example is Lucky Strike's old cigarette packaging, which, when rotated "clearly" shows a burning house, accompaning the Japan-flag Red Dot and the trademark phrase "it's toasted".
Thanks, --Abdull 20:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Added. TheJabberwock 04:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backward messages in logos 

message: "Please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm, Chalfont," which refers to former lead singer Syd Barrett, who suffered a breakdown years earlier."
Two problems with this:
One, I doubt Floyd would make light of Syd's situation in this manner considering their remorse towards the current condition of their former frontman. 
Two, I've never seen this anywhere, so I'm wondering exactly where this might come from in the first place. Keep in mind, it's a nonsense backward lyric, so it doesn't necessarily have to have a meaning behind it. That link reeks of trying to find meaning which simply doesn't appear to have any basis in the truth.
Charles M. Reed July 8, 2005 03:26 (UTC)
:The "they're talking about Syd" thing was widely assumed and passed on at the time I heard the message, which was about 1990, courtesy of a friend excited about his new sound-sampling software. There are web pages which claim that band-members have confirmed this in interview, but they don't cite the interviews. 
:In fairness, I should note that around the same time we believed that eating whole nutmegs would kill you, and that it was feasible to get high on banana strings. We may have been misinformed on all three. 
:Finally, the article is missing the message itself! After the introduction comes the message. It's fainter than the introduction, and is simply someone calling out, "Roger, Carolyne's on the phone". (Carolyne was the name of Roger Waters' wife.)
:--Telsa
::The relevant message is no longer in the article. TheJabberwock 22:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Empty Spaces 

message: Her kan det stå noe norsomt.
-catweasel
This section of empty spaces is actually clearly audible, as he recorded it backwards, and just placed it in the song, but at a lower volume.
: lol yea seriously, does anyone even try these things? i know i do. get a copy of the music, get a copy of cooledit pro and get crackin with reverse action :) --da404LewZer 23:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  klumphue 

message: I think we've established that most rock bands, as well as other forms of media, have played around with backward messages or been accused of adding backward messages. The listing of bands and pop-culture experiments is huge; I think it should be deleted (or moved to an Examples of backward messages; I don't see a huge amount of value there, but it's evident that people find it interesting) so that the main themes of the article don't get buried under a hoard of examples.--Prosfilaes 21:54, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: So yes, this article is very very long. I propose starting a new article "List of examples of backwards messages" and moving all of the examples there, broken up into the same categories as here (alleged, deliberate, parody), and sorted neatly by some criteria (either date or artist). A few revealing examples, at most 2 for each type, should be kept on this page and the rest replaced by a link to the new list article. Comments? Objections? In particular is there a better title for the list article? The one I proposed seems clunky. -- Tyler 22:24, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree, split to a diff article and link to it. --68.94.47.235 05:19, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree with Prosfilaes in that there are many examples of backwards messages not listed in the article.  However, I don’t believe the article should be split into two separate pages.  Perhaps the top portion of the article would note the history and characteristics of backwards messages, while the bottom section of the article would have a list (as comprehensive as possible) of known backwards messages (both intentional and questionable).--Governorchavez 19:39, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree, sometimes people like to know 'interesting facts' ya know?? i mean i do.. So what if i know that led zep had some backmask action (i mean c'mon seriously folks), at least it's better than talking about the next 'survivor' ;) --da404LewZer 23:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done: List of backward messages. TheJabberwock 22:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not including every single example

message: May be worth adding to the proposed "examples" section - the song "Work It" by Missy Elliot prominently features reversed speech in its chorus. When reversed, it is simply a repeat of the previous line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiemcc (talk • contribs) 
Done. TheJabberwock 22:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missy Elliot 

message: Supposedly when Neil armstrong's quote about one small step for man is played backwards it says Man Will Space walk... Can someone confirm this?
Drstrangeluv
:"Good luck, Mr. Gorsky..." 81.232.72.148 17:53, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems bogus, since Armstrong would have had to practice speaking the quote normally while still creating a backwards message. TheJabberwock 22:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neil Armstrong 

message: Yoko Ono's song "Kiss kiss kiss" becomes "six six six" backwards... =D 81.232.72.148 17:53, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL; I added it to List of backward messages. TheJabberwock 22:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kiss kiss kiss 

message: I have seen backmasking defined as "intentional backward messages."  This distinction is not made in this article.
: I have NOT seen this defined as such, but i agree. In my opinion, simply reversing something is what it is. reversing audio sounds like complete random gibberish played forwards. Missy Eliots 'backmask' shouldn't be considered a backmask because obviously no work went into it. Led Zep. on the other hand, his lyrics are pretty much understandable in BOTH directions. this is what i would call backmasking. Anything that has a message in both directions. Otherwise it's just being played backwards. whoopty-doo. --da404LewZer 00:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to split of Backmasking to address this concern. TheJabberwock 22:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backmasking vs. backward speech 

message: How can "Stairway to Heaven" allegedly have backward messages, and then also be known to. If it's known to, it's past alleged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Capitan Obvio (talk • contribs) 
:It's alleged, not known. TheJabberwock 22:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged v. Known? 

message: reads mostly like rumours someone googled or got from a friend of a friend ... furthermore it's inconsistent and overall a poorly structured article. at the very least before one writes "A is a song with backward messages hidden" one should try to verify it and cite song, album, release date and timings.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Holle (talk • contribs) 
:I accept that criticism. Why don't you go ahead and fix it? TheJabberwock 21:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  mostly rumours 

message: The Bill Lanphier reference ("Artistic backmasking") refers to a song noted on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapsax (talk • contribs) 
Thanks, I added a link. TheJabberwock 23:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bill Lanphier 

message: The text "NYC" in Webdings and Wingdings should be replaced with images for computers without these fonts.
Blakeops 16:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Want to do it? Just take a screen capture and upload it. Λυδαcιτγ 22:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Crop it first, of course. Λυδαcιτγ 22:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Webdings/Wingdings 

message: As a psychologist who administers the Rorschach inkblot test, I want to express my concern about the use of one of the official Rorschach cards as the main picture for this and many other pages (relating to subliminal thought). These cards are not to be displayed publicly in any way because they obstruct the validity of the test. If someone takes this test after having previously seen even one of the images elsewhere, their protocol is spoiled (For this test was normed with individuals who were seeing the cards for the first time, thus eliciting a "fresh" response). If an image of an inkblot must be used, there are plenty of Inkblots that aren't part of the ten card Rorschach inkblot test. 71.141.237.95 00:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please don't use Rorschach inkblot images publicly 

message: normal: Q33 NY
Wingdings: Q33 NY
A Secret Message Of 9/11?
:See Talk:Pareidolia#Rorschach inkblots shouldn't be public. Λυδαcιτγ 00:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check This Out 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:CocaColaHiddenPicture.jpg

message: It should be explicitly noted in the section about the Microsoft fonts that they're viewable only in Internet Explorer. I will do that. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 06:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The fonts 

message: Pareidolia is not about messages. And could someone please explain the link from hiden message to paradox? Paradox casts a rather wide net, but I'm having doubts about this catch. Paradoctor (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navbox 

message: It was used to communicate hidden messages in real life. That's about as relevant as it gets, right?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.99.154.77 (talk) 07:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page should include the Language of Flowers 

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