Talk:Primary school

message: For previous discussions about primary education, primary schools and elementary schools please refer to Talk:Primary education. Dahliarose 08:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Previous discussions

message: I've never seen "Primary School" = "Elementary school" in the US. In the places I've lived (California, Arkansas, Missouri), "Primary School" always referred to grades 1-3 (or up to about 10 years of age). Elementary schools could include a primary school, but typically went up to grade 6.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.116.87.110 (talk) 14:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that the article did not claim that primary school = elementary school and it did make the following statement "Very few schools in the US actually use the term primary school as part of their school name and such schools are generally private schools, serving very young children." There is no need for the unreferenced point of view you posted which was " Usually a primary school is part of an Elementary School, but this is not necessarily always the case."  Dbiel (Talk) 14:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary School

message: Is there enough information here and in Primary education that it can stand alone, or can they be merged? Caduon (talk) 07:31, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have merged the 'country by country' section into Primary Education. I will do the same for Elementary school. I suggest we then consider (again) merging Primary School and Elementary School, but we can come back to that discussion in a bit. PeterEastern (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: I have created a section on talk:Elementary school recommending that that article is merged into this one. Lets have the discussion there. PeterEastern (talk) 02:59, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's appropriate to merge elementary school and primary school. They both have very different meanings. Also I note that the historical UK meaning of elementary school has been removed from the elementary school. Elementary schools are an important part of the history of education in the UK and need to be recognised in this article. Dahliarose (talk) 10:22, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I note that you have also responded on talk:Elementary school which is where I was suggesting that we continue this conversation. Can you ensure that your views are appropriately expressed on that talk page and can we then delete the comment from this page? Feel free to delete this response from me at the same time. PeterEastern (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Its news to me that primary school and elementary school have "very different meanings". I highly doubt it. In reading these comments, I realize that my usage is different from those from other parts of the USA, which should be accepted as indicating that the term can mean various things. First and most obviously (imho) a primary education is generally considered through grade 6, possibly grade 8. Schools providing that education are <fill in the blank>. If you chose "not primary schools" then there is a problem of consistency here. There can be no doubt that (in the USA) 5th through 8th, and even 9th and 4th grades may or may not be in the same category in a particular school district. These middle schoolers may be situated in the elementary (aka primary) schools, be in a middle school (aka junior high) and 9th graders are often in high school, but not always. (Of course, 10th Graders are never considered "Freshmen"...) Attempting to prescribe the meaning/definition of a term which has multiple ones is not in Wikipedia's purview. It reads very awkwardly and needs to be redone. I would strongly recommend a historical (or semi-historical) structure be used, rather than the current mish-mash.173.189.72.165 (talk) 22:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is a worldwide encyclopaedia and just restricted to readers in America. Schooling systems are different in different countries. For example, elementary school has a completely different meaning in the UK and is only used in the historical context. This article needs a lot of improvement but I don't think a merge with elementary school is justified. This article was originally because of the confusion over the terminology in different countries.Dahliarose (talk) 11:32, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Elementary school

message: could someone correct to "elementary".GinAndChronically (talk) 23:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top.</br> The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). TJRC (talk) 00:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm naught hat al afred of makin changes myself but assume that the same corection can be mhade by that purson that has the abillite n won move to do all.GinAndChronically (talk) 01:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  sp "elemtary" in various WP articles 

message: I'm not sure it is the preferred term in the UK?  I'd say its more commonly referred to as 'junior school'.  Mtaylor848 (talk) 18:16, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Junior schools and infant schools are types of primary schools. We call these schools primary schools whereas in the US they call them elementary schools.Dahliarose (talk) 22:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

text: In England primary school and junior school are different.  Primary is for 5-11 year-olds, infant is for 5-8 year-olds.  Junior is for 8-11 year-olds.  It is not unusual for one site to accommodate (in a primary school) buildings for both infants and juniors.  Wiwal, there was an optional reception class (rarely reception 'school') for 4-5 year-olds, it would be in the same building as the infant school. 109.158.6.169 (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is 'Primary School' the preferred term in the UK? 

message: An anonymous IP took the decision to redirect the page for elementary school to this page but the redirect does not appear to have been discussed so I have reverted the edit. It seems to me that it would be best to have two separate pages. The US-specific material on this page would perhaps be better off on the page for elementary school. An elementary school has a specific historical meaning in British English and is not the same thing as a primary school. Dahliarose (talk) 18:31, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: Is this the correct age range? I left primary school (in England) aged 11, and Education_Act_1944 says 5-11, but it's a long time since I left and it may have changed since then.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarpoHarks (talk • contribs) 08:57, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: "About five to twelve"?

message: It has been suggested that Elementary school be merged into this article.
*Support there is minimal content at Elementary school and they cover the same topic. Difference appears to be restricted to country-specific terminology and practice, but both refer to schools for the same age range. Lineslarge (talk) 21:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Clem for taking the initiative on the merger. What you've done looks fine. There is still a lot of overlap between the primary school and the page on primary education. I agree it would be best to have the theory on the education and the school structures on this page. Sorry but I don't have much time at present to do any editing.Dahliarose (talk) 21:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Elementary school - July 2017 

message: **Response from 
::On all education matters we need to go back to the ISCED definitions- and currently ISCED 2011. A primary school delivers ISCED 2011 phase one- while a elementary school delivered the elementary education that a working class child in 1902 would need to become part of the labour force, this in 2011 speak would include ISCED 2011 phase one and parts of phase two. In the UK in 1944, the Elementary schools were divided into Primary Elementary Schools (known as Primary Schools) and Secondary Elementary Schools (Secondary Modern Schools). In the states they continued to call them  Elementary Schools. Linguistically, it is hard to distinguish. Look at Canada in the Educational stage page, and particularly Newfoundland and Yukon. In an ISCED 2011 spreadsheet for France we find les enfants passant from the Maternelle (education pre-elementaire) to the Ecole (education primaire), which you can interpret as synonymous or using the distinction I mentioned above. This discussion of the terms can be incorporated into the merged article. Our article :fr:École élémentaire en France says that when the Maternelle, and the Élémentaire are on the same site then that is spoken of as a École Primaire!
::This article suggests the term école primaire originates in France in 1802, a glance at French Wikipedia :fr:Histoire de l'éducation en France will give:the loi du 12 décembre 1792 qui a pour objectif d'ouvrir l'enseignement primaire. This to me suggests that the existing article was not very well researched, and needs to be erased and should be started afresh. ClemRutter (talk) 10:53, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As they currently stand, there is not enough content in, or difference between, the articles to justify two separate articles. Elementary school is essentially an enlarged dab page, while Primary school explicitly covers both topics in a single article. Personally, I would convert Elementary school to a disambigustion page and keep Primary School as is. I would also consider merging Primary education or creating a clearer split of topic as there is a large crossover at present. Lineslarge (talk) 13:26, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeating comments regarding the merger

message: We don't commonly use "junior school" in Australia to refer to "primary school". Maybe some private schools, but we generally just call them "primary schools" like Irish and British do. Tooironic (talk) 10:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Can of worms this one. My grandkids go to school in Nottingham in a building designed in the 1870s, as did I in Manchester (1950s), and most of neighbourhood in Medway (2020s). They were either built as separate infant schools (5-7} and junior schools (7-11), or combined infant junior primary schools. In the interim, schools have been reorganised through first/middle/upper and back again, but still on the stonework we see carved Infant School, Junior School. It is varies according to location in the UK, its political colour, and the presence of church in that locality as well--- ClemRutter (talk) 11:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

text: I was confused to see junior school as the word used in Australia since I've never heard it called that before. The Golden Viatori (talk) 06:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "junior school" 

message: The redirect Walker Elementary School has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  TartarTorte 22:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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