Talk:Tales of Symphonia

message: Requested a third opinion from VG project. SunrodHercules insists the sentence in the lead "As their journey progresses, they learn that saving Sylvarant endangers Tethe'alla, a world parallel to their own." is fancruft and random crap strung together (dif). I, however, insist that the majority of the plot focuses on those two worlds and is necessary for the lead, since the "They journey to save the world" is too generic. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:15, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no problem with it. It's not cruft, there needs to be a story part represented in the lead, it's well worded, and it's vague enough that it hardly spoils much. I mean, you learn that much in a typical preview/review from a video game website. Sergecross73 msg me  01:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Serge, there is a story part represented in the lead. Look at the whole entire paragraph. It almost like a randomly strung list and it makes no sense to have it there. SunrodHercules (talk) 01:40, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess generic wasn't the right word, imprecise then. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

text: I think it's unwise to include plot-changing information in the lead, unless it's well-known like <spoiler>Vader being Luke's father</spoiler>. It's reasonable for players to expect to visit articles to learn about games' basic information and not have anything spoiled before the clearly marked Plot section. Tezero (talk) 03:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited the lead in the same vain as Tales of Graces, which reveals a timeskip and a character's death, but excludes the surprise the character is an alien. My focus was to include what the protagonists goal for the majority of the game is. The two world deal was introduced pretty early on, and felt necessary to have in the lead. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Alright SunrodHercules, DragonZero, Tezero, and Sergecross73. We have a 2:2 so we are still in a stalemate. What should we do here? SunrodHercules (talk) 22:39, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:NOCONSENSUS. Unless there's consensus to change, no change is made. This discussion has only been going for about a day, so probably just wait for more to comment. Sergecross73 msg me  22:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Yeah, that's what I was driving at too... Sergecross73 msg me  23:42, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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