Talk:List of political parties in New Zealand

message: Should local only parties like Citizens and ratepayers be listed? or maybe mentioned briefly in a seperate section?
:I think there are probably good points and bad points about listing local parties — some, like Citizens and Ratepayers, are fairly well established, but others seem to appear and disappear very quickly (more so in some cities than others, I think). They would therefore be difficult to track. But a section on prominent or noteworthy local parties seems like a good idea, yes. It would probably be best to keep them separate from national-level parties, though, just for the sake of clarity. -- Vardion 10:15, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I wouldn't like to add local parties to an encyclopedia. E.g. in my municipality Lingewaard in the Netherlands three local parties are active. Shoild I add them?, no I don't think so. --Gangulf 18:41, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The Citizens and Ratepayers is a sub-group of the National Party, so should probably get a mention there instead.  Other than that I don't think there are any major ones that need to be mentioned anywhere --Gregstephens 04:06, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text:  The C&R aren't a sub-group of National, it is a politically independent org from National, though many identities in C&R are National members. Historically, there have been ACT, NZ First and non members of any party  in C&R. The current  leader of C&R, David Hay, is not a member of any party. I think this could be expanded to include local body groups. Organisations like C&R, City Vision, Chch2021, and Vision Wanganui show a maturing of local govt towards organised groups in NZ. FriendlySam (talk) 08:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Local Parties?

message: I added the links to lists of parties at the see also section. Furthermore, A short definition in an article on parties in NZ HK is relevant. So I reverted that. I hope in this way we can agree/compromise. Gangulf 14:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reaction on changes by Vardion

message: "The National Front has applied for registration..." It was my understanding (gathered from their discussion board) that they currently lack the required number of registered supporters to register as a party, and so have not applied yet... what is the accuracy of this statement? porges 08:25, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
I keep a close eye on the Public Notices (which is required to become a political party).  They have not yet registered.  The reason is most likely because of lack of numbers, but it could be due to any number of reasons (drawing up party constitution, not having enough financial memebers, etc.  --Gregstephens 03:10, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Front 

message: According to stuff various parties have made name changes etc. It's not all updated here but the .doc at the bottom seems to be right.  -  SimonLyall 08:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but I'm not sure that we necessarily have to mention these changes — omitting the "Jim Anderton" from "Jim Anderton's Progressive Party" is really just like omitting "New Zealand" from the previous "New Zealand Progressive Party", isn't it? -- Vardion 02:05, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further name changes. 

message: I'm a bit confused about The Republic of New Zealand Party and the Republic Aotearoa New Zealand Party. Are these separate parties? Kerry Bevin appears to be the leader of the latter, but a couple of articles refer to him as founding the former.-gadfium 23:04, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Confusing. Well, they were definitely separate parties at some point, because they both applied for broadcasting funding. Kerry Bevin is definitely associated with the Republic of New Zealand Party, because he's their top-ranked candidate, but this website, which seems to be the RONZP homepage, doesn't mention him. (The website only mentions John Kairau and Gray Phillips, neither of whom are actually candidates). I can't find anything linking Bevin to the Republic Aotearoa New Zealand Party apart from clones of our article, so it could be that our article is mistaken in linking him to Republic Aotearoa New Zealand. It could also be that Bevin originally was associated with Republic Aotearoa New Zealand, but has changed parties, or the two parties have merged. -- Vardion 00:05, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Kerry Bevin is currently the leader of The Republicans (Republic of New Zealand Party). I think the two parties merged. Republic Aotearoa New Zealand seemed to have been spawned by John Kairau, who intially called it the "People's Republic of Aotearoa Party" (there was a PR I blogged on but now can't find it). The two seem to have been working together. --Lholden 08:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Two Republican parties?

message: The right caption box does not render well with the main body in all browsers.  Can someone with better formatting skills than me sort this out? # —The preceding unsigned comment was added by InSpace (talk • contribs) .  moved from top to bottom as per normal talk page formatting --Midnighttonight Procrastinating on uni work... 03:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that better?  I have just expanded some of the lead-ins, which should move everything else down. --Midnighttonight Procrastinating on uni work... 03:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting

message: I've done a bit of a cleanup on the unregistered parties category, and proposed two for deletion: Independent National Party and Kotahitanga Te Manamotu Hake Tiriti o Waitangi.  Neither ran candidates or registered as a party last election, and neither featured at all in public debate.  Evidence for their existence was low - an application for funding or to register a logo.  I think both fall below the notability criteria even for a completeist effort like this.
For the future, I suggest the following inclusion criteria for unregistered parties:
* If the party ran candidates in the previous election;
* If the party was registered at the previous election;
* If the party has announced its intention to register or run candidates at the next elction.
Parties which announce that they will no longer be active should not be included, and if necessary, moved to the relevant historical category.  
I am currently trying to find out what is up with the New Zealand Liberal Party (2008) to see if they should still be listed. --IdiotSavant (talk) 09:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion criteria for unregistered parties

message: I notice this party is listed under both names, I'm unsure which is the correct title so I haven't edited but this should be looked into  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.115.149 (talk) 23:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the duplicate entry a little earlier. I don't have any strong feelings on whether to include "NZ" or "New Zealand" in its name, but this would be more appropriate to discuss at Talk:Student Party.-gadfium 01:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Student Party and Student Party New Zealand

message: This was changed as a certain left-wing blogger wanted to portray the Party as right-wing. Although the majority of the party is to the right of IdiotSavant, this is true of the New Zealand people too. OurNZ does not subscribe to traditional left/ right paradigm. Roalexx (talk) 10:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats nice of you. However we need to write how others would describe you. Example: A party that supported Nationalisation of industry, more spending on welfare and higher taxes would in most cases be described as "left-wing" even if they said they were a "A solution-based party which looks outside the left-right political paradigm for solutions". In other words come up with NPOV wording not buzzwords - SimonLyall (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Regardless of who wrote it, it is not a neutral point of view. Worse than that, the current description leaves someone who has never heard of the party (like me) with no idea of what the party actually stands for. This needs to be changed to something that meets NPOV. - Roue2 (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have updated this to read "A party advocating a new currency, binding referenda, and a written constitution." which seems (to me at least) to sum up the principles and objectives as outlined on their website. I have included a reference to their principles and objectives. Roue2 (talk) 22:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks okay - SimonLyall (talk) 11:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

text: The previous description did not describe any of the principles or objectives of the party as outlined in the party's website. It contained fluff words which were essentially meaningless and didn't help any person unfamiliar with the party figure out what the party stood for. 'Solution based' doesn't mean anything. I have gone to the party website, summed up what is on there in a neutral way and provided a reference so that readers can check it.  What disappoints me is that I have spent time researching and editing a description of a party that received just over 60 votes in the latest by-election because a supporter of the party wants to use wikipedia as a way to promote their party and for my troubles I get accused of bullying. Thanks.  - Roue2 (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that Roalexx has requested editor assistance for this issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#List_of_Political_Parties_in_New_Zealand_-_Our_NZ_Party - Roue2 (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

text: It is a short description of a minor, unregistered party. As the description stands, it covers the main points outlined in the parties principles and objectives page. My edit is neutral - please don't accuse me of being anything but neutral. The party has its own wikipage, maybe your effort and time would be better spent expanding that, which is where elaboration of the parties policies should be, not in a brief description. Note to self - don't feed the trolls. - Roue2 (talk) 05:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  OurNZ Party 

message: Why the different colours for the entries of the Libertarianz, Country, Liberal, Pacific, Progressive, and Reform parties? Dab14763 (talk) 01:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Libertarianz ,  Pacific  and  Progressive  all competed in  and had registered logos with these colours (in the case of the Progressives we used their secondary colour as their main colour was the same as the  Labour  red), while the  Country ,  Liberal  and  Reform  parties all contested the , with the Country Party and Reform contesting the two subsequent elections. Party colours are meant to differentiate parties, and best practice is to use the colours of the parties' logos and promotional material. Historic parties sometimes present a problem in that we don't know what colours they may have used, or if they even did use such colours. In the case of the Liberal Party we use an international convention of yellow. The colours for Reform and the Country Party were first defined here in 2006 - in both cases green shades were chosen, possibly to reflect the strong rural heritage of each party. In any event, since  Reform  merged with the ex-Liberal  United  Party (via the  United/Reform  Coalition) to form  National  they needed a colour distinct from National and other existing parties.For more on this subject see discussion on NZ party colours, index of NZ political colours and Political colour. Fan | talk | 01:06, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colours 

message: There is a note on this article which says "Every entry in this list must have an article written in the English Wikipedia, with reliable sources to support inclusion, else it will be removed without warning."
The Integrity Party does not appear notable enough for an article, and the New Communist Party's article was deleted for lack of notability.
Perhaps these entries should be removed from this article. HenryCrun15 (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. If a party is not notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia page then it should not be listed here. Helper201 (talk) 13:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integrity Party and New Communist Party 

message: For example, the description of the green party says "Like many Green parties around the world it has four pillars: ecological wisdom, social responsibility, grassroots democracy, and nonviolence. The party has an environmentalist platform, and also promotes progressive social policies." Doesn't that sound like something you would see on some promotional material? I would recommend changing it to make it more neutral. Ayvind-Bjarnason (talk) 11:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: It might be just me, but some of the descriptions in the table sound like advertisements

message: , regarding the labels of “Christian right” and “Social conservative” for the National Party: I have removed those labels from the party's infobox. I suspect you did not read the sources before copying them over to this page, as the labels aren't supported by the sources and were probably added recently without oversight. It would be strange at this point to label the party as Christian, as this is not a view supported by mainstream sources nor an agenda pushed by the party itself. 
Although I don't see your other additions to party ideologies as quite as problematic, I urge you to do your homework on what the respective party pages say in the body before just propagating the latest additions to the infobox. — HTGS (talk) 23:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I strongly disagree, and based on your other edits this is clear biased vandalism against the page due to personal opinions, as you seek to only remove information from New Zealand National Party.   The sources clearly state what positions the party holds, and how they clearly align with the same values listed on the articles for those ideologies.   I suggest seeking a third opinion to review the information, as will I. SjShane (talk) 01:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please refrain from personal attacks like calling other editors vandals. You can be blocked by an admin if you continue to rage against people. Kiltroans (talk) 13:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I’ll call the edits as I see them, which is misinformation, and vandalism.  I am interested that you have decided to join Wikipedia for the sole reason of joining in on this discussion.    Welcome. SjShane (talk) 13:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Party (and other party) ideologies 

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