Talk:Energeia

message: I am only doing this to cut from the section above since we are now into how to and what to merge.12:30, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would be happy with a merger of all the relevant articles to Potentiality and Actuality and by the way, thanks to Machine Elf for his work on it. In order to avoid confusion, I propose doing this first, trying to avoid removing too much, so that we at least have starting point and place for further discussion. I have to however add that there is yet another article in this story: Entelechy. I have tagged it accordingly.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposals? 

message: I am only doing this to cut from the section above since we are now into how to and what to merge. I am totally for merging dunamis. And will not fight merging energeia but I would hope that it not be merge since I think it is a subject that onto itself warrants an article and also a mention in the other Aristotle articles.LoveMonkey (talk) 13:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so concerning Energeia: What is it about Energeia which you would prefer NOT to be discussed in an article which also discusses Dunamis, and why?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposals? 

message: A few things to note about events relating to this article:
:1. As can be seen at potentiality and actuality, that article, which is the proposed target for material from this and other over-lapping articles, is blocked from editing for a few days. This is one result from the edit warring of Machine Elf yesterday. He was also asked to stay away from the article for a week, in reply to which he has said he will stay away permanently. That's an unfortunate way for the road block in discussions to end, but at least that is over for now.
:2. While the article is blocked, it is time to try to get a vision together about this article and the ones that overlap with it. Obviously I have my own ideas, which continue to change, and obviously I intend to improve this article and the over-lapping ones so while the article is blocked I have set up a working draft on my user space. I learned last time I tried a draft in this complex case of over-lapping articles that it is possibly sometimes naive to ask others to work with me on such proposals, i.e. on the drafting itself, because people have different visions and can not understand where others are headed until the job is complete anyway. So I'll work on it myself during the block, and I hope I can this time bring it alone to a point where the target is more clear and I create less panic. I have made an effort already to incorporate material from this article to show how I think a structure might work which covers it. I suggest comments be made here on this talk page or else at Talk:Potentiality and actuality.
:3. There are obviously lots of open discussions now: discussions I was trying to have with Machine Elf and others which petered out. So where were we? To move forward I will also try, if I can find the time, to write an analysis of differences between my draft and other versions, including old and draft versions, of this article, and the other articles in discussion (entelechy, energeia, Actus et potentia, and dunamis.
I hope that makes sense to others.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion continues here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Potentiality_and_actuality#re-starting_merge_discussions_for_remaining_candidates --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE. In discussions on our talk pages User:LoveMonkey agrees with the energeia merge. Discussion of the entelechy merge continues on Talk:entelechy with User:The Tetrast. I shall act on that basis.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Energeia is now a redirect, so please discuss any issues concerning it there.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update on events relating to this article