Talk:Dark wave

message: Hlo sir  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:A411:5099:8CE3:73D5:24DC:AA9D (talk) 08:15, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

message: In the article, it says "The first usage of the term appears to have been in the 1980s".  The quote is incorrect and "appears " should not be used as is an unencyclopedic word.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalied04 (talk • contribs) 10:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you think it's incorrect? I own a handful of music magazines from the 80s, and in 1988 there is a mention of Dark Wave in connection with Joy Division. --Ada Kataki (talk) 22:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The first usage of the term?

message: With regard to Fred Hunter's point, the relationship between dark wave and Gothic rock seems difficult to pin down. We have German sources cited on the page from as far back as 1988 indicating that Gothic rock groups, or post-punk groups influential on Gothic rock (Joy Division et. al.) are also referred to as dark wave. Chontamenti's external link to the British gothic rock collection supports this point. The trouble is that we don't really have access to the original German sources that make the claim that late '70s dark post-punk groups were called dark wave in Europe, and we don't know exactly when this usage began. It's possible that it was a retrospective appellation after the later dark wave groups (Project Pitchfork and all). This would make Bauhaus and company precursors, rather than dark wave proper. We also have an interview with Attrition, an early '80s group, who do lay claim to the dark wave tag.
:I've added a "precursors" subsection to better reflect the sources. Unless we have evidence that "dark wave" was used prior to 1988, its application to late-70s/early-80s post-punk groups is retroactive. Aryder779 (talk) 16:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides Dark Wave there was also another term called Doom Wave. I found this term in different magazines (1984 and 1988) and also a second mention of Dark Wave in May 1988 in connection with Fields of the Nephilim and The Mission. However, Dark Wave and Doom Wave are synonyms for the same thing. It seems that Doom Wave has been replaced by the term Dark Wave in the late 1980s. --Chontamenti (talk) 14:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dark wave and Gothic rock

message: As far as I know, Dark wave is a wave of dark music, subgenres of post punk I think. Gothic rock, Deathrock, etc. And it's considered too electronic music & goth rock mixed = Clan of Xymox  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.51.3.109 (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darkwave& Goth Subculture 

message: Why capitalize dark wave? It seems like any wave that isn't New Wave wouldn't warrant it. For being much more than a music genre, and for the same reasons we capitalize Bronze Age, New Wave makes sense. These other waves are just genres, although dark wave came closest to earning its caps. Is there something about "wave" that makes capitalization implicit? Pixel Eater (talk) 03:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be right. A quick google books search suggests that capitalization is pretty usual in reliable sources.--SabreBD (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The infobox lists: Guitar, bass guitar, drums, drum machine, synthesizer, sampler, violin, cello, piano, percussion
The lead lists: "chordophones such as electric and acoustic guitar, violin, and piano, as well as electronic instruments such as synthesizer, sampler, and drum machine."
The nearest citation reads: "" 
None of those instruments are listed in the body, and the only source does not support these claims. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 00:54, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Typical instruments" sources 

message: For those who didn't feel the term "Krautrock" quite scraped the very bottom of the oil drum of stupidity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.74.80 (talk) 13:27, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  And lo - there was "dark wave"