Talk:Père Goriot

message: My main source for this new section was The Novel 100 by Daniel Burt, 2004, Checkmark Books. The author was a professor of literature at Wesleyan University. | Keithlaw 22:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Major themes

message: Isn't there a relationship between the novel and King Lear? Can a short discussion be added? --Malcohol 10:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can cite a source for that connection, sure. I don't see the relationship myself. Lear had three daughters, Goriot two. Lear banished one of his daughters, leading to the central plot, whereas Goriot never banished either of his daughters. One of Lear's daughters dies at the end, whereas Goriot's both live. | Klaw ¡digame! 15:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't read King Lear myself, so it's not my just a random hypothesis of mine. The relationship is mentioned in the introduction to my old Pelican edition of "Old Goriot" (as it's called). With regard to the banished daughter, that could be Victorine Taillefer.--Malcohol 13:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like you have a good citation. I say add it, and make sure you cite that essay in your edition, either via endnotes or in a References section. | Klaw ¡digame! 20:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just had another glance at that introduction. In fact, the reference to King Lear is really just this passing remark: "... [Balzac] appears here to have deliberately chosen to show that a working-class Lear may exist, whose story is not less terrible or less affecting than Shakespeare's great king". For what it's worth, the book reference is: Old Goriot, Balzac, translated by Marion Ayton Crawford, Penguin Books, 1962. The introduction, by Crawford, is dated 1950. I'm not sure that such a minor comment would constitute a useful addition to the article, but if someone wants me to add it I will. BTW, I did a quick web search: "Goriot king lear" throws up several essays which explicitly consider the comparison. --Malcohol 12:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  King Lear? 

message: could someone please help me i need a thesis of Le Pere Goriot and i cannot figure one out— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.18.42 (talk) 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thesis 

message: I have reconstructed this article, replacing it all at once with text scribbled in a userpage of mine. I've vastly reduced the plot summary, in accordance with WP:SS, and tried to include the same basic thematic overview as the previous version. Of course, if anyone feels that the new version is lacking – and can provide citations for claims – please tweak as necessary. Cheers! – Scartol • Tok 18:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major revision 

message: The article says, "It marks the first serious use by the author of characters who had appeared in other books, a technique that distinguishes Balzac's fiction and makes La Comédie humaine unique among bodies of work."
Many, many fiction writers have used characters in more than one book.  As stated, the sentence even includes sequels.  Apart from those, the first one I can think off-hand is A Sentimental Journey, and I can list more if desired.  Maybe the systematic use of the technique made Balzac's body of work unique up to that time. What do you think? —JerryFriedman  (Talk) 05:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came to this talk page to make the same comment. As written, this sentence doesn't make sense. —Bkell (talk) 12:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the present version is better. —JerryFriedman  (Talk) 20:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters from other books 

message: Hi All,
I hope you don't mind me adding a link to http://www.tailoredtexts.com/read/le-pere-goriot-balzac-honore-de/#!/10877/en/d/0/0/0/ . Basically, it is a link to the original edition but with annotations in English designed to help people whose English is stronger than their French. The annotations are completely interactive and can also be added by any registered users. The site (and its interface) is geared completely towards people who are reading foreign-language literature. Currently, there are 900+ annotations
I have talked to EdBever about this at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:EdBever/Archief/dec_2011 and have recorded this edit here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:COIBot/XWiki/tailoredtexts.com 
Thank you,
Daniel 121.7.229.31 (talk) 00:25, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: This page move changed the title from Le Père Goriot to simply Père Goriot, for a stated reason.  Yet the name is still given as Le Père Goriot throughout the article.  Nor is there any mention in the article explaining why the different forms are used.  This seems very odd for a featured article, yet I can see no discussion about this since the move was made well over 2 years ago.  Can someone enlighten me about this?  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 01:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Dropping the definite article

message: It is stated in the text that Goriot's funeral is attended only by Rastignac and medical student named Bianchon and Christophe (and paid mourners). Actually, only Rastignac and Christophe was there (and paid mourners), and Bianchon had to stay in the hospital. --MikyM (talk) 02:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Funeral