Talk:Shortnin' Bread

message: The history section is internally illogical. It has a white poet from Iowa as the original writer of the song in 1900, and then a folklorist collects it in the field in Tennessee in 1912. Huh? 12 years is a short time for a song to go from a book to a folk song to be collected by anthropologists. And the collected version has lyrics similar to the modern lyrics. Obviously this was a folk song all along, and the poet may have added some original lyrics. Either add a source to the "not a plantation song" or delete the claim.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.158.9.214 (talk) 04:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As I read more about plantation food, it occurs to me that this was a white persons song, although it may be related to plantation life, that was sung in the slave dialect, like minstrely, which made fun of blacks. What someone else said below about slaves bread being made of corn meal as well as the probable use of the word "mammy" as opposed to "mamma" would indicate that the song is making fun of black children who would not have been able to have white flour shortbread shortened with butter and sweetened. Naamli (talk) 19:35, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Traditional Plantation Song?! 

message: The main article cites this film.
However, the IMDb's soundtrack listing makes no mention of the song.
Neither does this longer plot synopsis.
Is Maytime the correct Nelson Eddy film?
Varlaam (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''[[Maytime (film)|Maytime]]'', 1937 

message: The bread sings this song in this Famous Studios Production animated short. Don't know anything else about the short but it probably should be added.
--JoelSherrill (talk) 21:08, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screen Song short cartoon 1948 

message: At http://www.archive.org/details/CompleteBroadcastDay you can find the whole day of Sept. 21, 1939 recorded and translated to modern MP3s. Within there (I apologize I've forgotten when specifically) is the Shortnin' Bread song, but using the now very non-PC lyrics: "Mammy's little darkies". How times have changed. :|  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.59.203 (talk) 05:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-PC variant 

message: The Viscounts also did this song, but I'm not sure when. It's kind of a jazzed-up version much different than the version my Dad sang to us when I was a kid. 72.86.42.38 (talk) 20:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Viscounts version 

message: This is the only way way I ever heard it: Three little darkies lying in bed
Two was sick an' the other 'most dead.
Send for the doctor, the doctor said,
"Feed dose darkies on short'nin bread!" []
—Pawyilee (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Paul Robeson version of this verse follows this - (with "chillun" for "darkies"). Actually my old mum quite unselfconsciously used the "N" word!) - as someone said a different world!. She heard "'most" as "was", as someone from England naturally would - if only because we don't say "'most" for "almost". Anyway - I am changing the article to reflect this. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 10:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The way I heard it. 

message: Wikipedia tagged this article as needing trivia removed and this section veered off the topic of the song itself. Their released recording of it was added to the chronological list of other renditions and I'll add the information from this section to their article. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 23:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: i re-added most of the section - as i said in edit history its about the most relevant the song has ever gotten, and so wouldn't really complete without a more developed section i think anyway 86.186.54.245 (talk) 09:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why I removed the section on the Beach Boys