Talk:John Foster Dulles

message: I have restored unexplained deletions from this article. If it turns out that there was a reason for them then I apologise. DJ Clayworth 22:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: He's listed as a Senator, but if he was the article should say when and from which state, which it doesn't.
Rlquall 16:02, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Senate service?

message: He was born on February 25, 1988 (not the 2nd) and he went to public schools in Watertown, New York, not in New York City.
: Date corrected 86.139.59.146 20:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistakes

message: Not only was JFD the son of a Presbyterian minister, he was himself a liberal Presbyterian elder, and an ecumenist who opposed the conservatives in the Presbyterian Church. 86.139.59.146 20:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Presbyterian elder

message: For some time I have been working on revisions to the Bricker Amendment article.  I finally posted it and have a PR at Wikipedia:Peer review/Bricker Amendment/archive1.  I'd welcome comments.  I know all those references may seem extravagant, but I'm hoping to get it as an FA and those voters want lots of footnotes.  PedanticallySpeaking 16:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bricker Amendment

message: I would be interested in knowing more about this.  This is not common knowledge!  Any idea as to the extent of his support?--Tbkflav 00:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nazi Collaborator?

message: "In 1950, Dulles published War or Peace, a critical analysis of the American policy of containment, which at the time was favored by many of the foreign policy elites in Washington. Dulles criticized the foreign policy of Harry S. Truman. He argued that containment should be replaced by a policy of "liberation". When Dwight Eisenhower became President in January, 1953, he appointed Dulles as his Secretary of State. As Secretary of State, Dulles still carried out the “containment” policy of neutralizing the Taiwan Strait during the Korean War which had been established by President Truman in the Treaty of Peace with Japan of 1951."
John Foster Dulles was a very complex and confusing character.  His actions did not always coincide with his rhetoric.  From War or Peace it appears that Dulles was in favor of military containment based upon a policy of alliances that would flexibly respond to any crisis.  Yet he believed that it would be dangerous to regard the military as the prime means through which to fight the "cold" war.  He claimed to favor liberation through such means as political warfare, psychological pressure, and propaganda.  He believed that the Soviet Union was based upon a rigid and overextended infrastructure that would collapse under pressure if the Politburo was not allowed the chance to consolidate power both within the USSR and the recently acquired conquests following WWII. Yet, there is an apparent contradiction in his thought even before his appointment as Secretary of State.  On the campaign trail in support of Eisenhower in 1952, he called for the liberation of the peoples of Eastern Europe.  What was important with his speeches is that he failed to include the word "peaceful" before liberation, such as what Eisenhower was doing.  Refer to Sherman Adams' Firsthand Report.  This is only one such example of the contradictions which occured throughout the years leading up to 1959.  I am only attempting to study John Foster Dulles, so therefore do not understand much of what he said and did as Secretary of State.  Another good starting point would be Reenacting the Story of Tantalus: Eisenhower, Dulles, and the Failed Rhetoric of Liberation by Chris Tudda in the Journal of Cold War Studies.  The last sentence of the excerpt above seems to be completely wrong.  The Six Fleet had been ordered to by Truman to place itself between Taiwan and mainland China at the outbreak of the Korean War.  Truman hoped to prevent both the communists from attacking Taiwan and the nationalists from attacking the mainland.  He wanted to keep the conflict minimized to a "limited war" in Korea instead of a "general" war invovling much of Asia.  Eisenhower revoked this order in his First State of the Union address in what has become known as the "Unleashing" of Chiang Kai-Shek.  Dulles and Eisenhower saw no need to protect the communists from the nationalists when the Red Army was fighting the UN forces in Korea.  Also, Dulles appeared to actually desire offering support for the nationalists in an assault on the mainland during the Formosa Straits Crisis of 1954-1955, a stance hardly reconcilable with a policy of containment.  Yet another example of the contradictions of Dulles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TDavidA (talk • contribs) 07:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Containment v. Liberation (peaceful or otherwise)

message: "neutrality has increasingly become an obsolete and, except under very exceptional circumstances, it is an immoral and shortsighted conception." According to US Department of State: American Foreign Policy: Current Documents 1956 this quotation was in a speech held on June 9, 1956 and not 1955. --Vistor 20:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Immoral-speech

message: Is this quote certain ?
On December 1958, Dulles and Dr. Milton Eisenhower attended Mexico's new president Adolfo Lopez Mateos' inauguration, where Dulles made the candid quote, "The United States of America does not have friends; it has interests"
Apollon 16:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The [[United States of America]] does not have friends; it has interests

message: This is widely circulated, but chasing back footnote to footnote, I don't find documentation from the time. I would be very happy if someone could supply one! ch (talk) 06:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are after-the-time comments such as this, which are possibly factual Tedickey (talk) 23:35, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

text: If there's no contemporary report, it might be a later construct, e.g, see this Tedickey (talk) 23:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Refuse to shake hands with Zhou?

message: There should perhaps be relevant information about a statement that Dulles made on Jewish influence over American foreign policy. Although the quote has often been recycled by anti-semitic people, much of it has been validated by resarchers Mearsheimer and Walt, authors of The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.  ADM (talk) 08:17, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Quote on Jews

message: There are good reasons to believe he shot JFK.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.54.112 (talk) 21:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Probable. You should add it!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.67.180 (talk) 08:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Impossible - if by JFK you mean President Kennedy, it would have been anachronistic for Dulles died in 1959 before Kennedy had even been elected President!Cloptonson (talk) 21:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I realise the nameless user might have confused JFD with his younger brother Allen Dulles, head of the CIA before JFK sacked (officially made to resign) after the Bay of Pigs fiasco in 1961. It is questionable if AD would have had the contacts able to carry out the killing, and he was by then 70. AD was, to criticism as his sacking would have made him potentially biassed, appointed to the Warren Commission ostensibly to be able to coach colleagues in interviewing any CIA agents questioned in the investigations.Cloptonson (talk) 11:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: JFK

message: Dulles' grandfather was John Welsh Dulles (not Welch) and he was a missionary in India, not China. (source is a blocked URL at famousamericans-dot-net, sorry.)  He even wrote a book about it.  rudra (talk) 22:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor correction applied

message: What did John Foster Dulles do during WW 2? The only mention of the war period is his work in November 1945 at the founding of the UN.--TGC55 (talk) 17:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  World War II 

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message: There's a missing phrase in this section.  In the sentence that begins " In the 1950s, he worked alongside to reduce the French influence in Vietnam...", who he worked alongside is left out.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.233.10.144 (talk) 19:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secretary of State 

message: The text says "Janet Pomeroy Avery (1891–1969), a first cousin of David Rockefeller". However it is easily checked that Janet Pomeroy Avery shares no grandparent with David Rockefeller (e.g. see their Find-A-Grave entries   and follow back), so they are not first cousins. David Rockefeller's great great grandmother had the surname "Avery", but she doesn't seem to be closely connected to Janet Pomeroy Avery's family. Thurstan (talk) 10:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect genealogy