Talk:Cymothoa exigua

message: :That's copyrighted, so useless for Wikipedia (see here: http://www.tolweb.org/Isopoda, it says © 1989 Matthew Gilligan, Savannah State College, Savannah, GA). Jalwikip (talk) 09:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It makes no sense to observe that experts are worried that finding a possible victim of this parasite in the UK may indicate the expansion of its range if the parasite's range is not identified beforehand. Given that the only location mentioned in this article is the UK, readers must conclude that the UK is the only place they are found. 172.131.164.245 00:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range? 

message: Any objections to removing the promotional paragraph for this odd play?  Has nothing to do with the isopod this article is about (and wiki doesn't have "trivia" sections) Alvis 00:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the entire section, as many species of Cymothoa attach to the tongue (though not replacing it), I see no use in keeping it in a piece on C. exigua. Jalwikip (talk) 09:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Play 

message: Although one source lists the C. exigua as not eating any of the food of the fish, one of the referenced articles (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=719) on the discovery of such a bug in a UK fisk cites a Dr Jim Brock says "Eventually the tongue is reduced to a stub. However, the parasite is now large enough to replace the tongue and as it manipulates the fish's food, it also dines out for free on the freed food particles when the fish eats." (emphasis mine) Any other references to what it does and does not eat? Jalwikip (talk) 09:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eating fish food or not 

message: I think it should be checked whether the parasite has a shorter lifespan than the fish, because in that case its death would mean the one of the fish as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.11.231.69 (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortened life of the fish 

message: Since the subject of this appears to be the only parasite that does this, this news article seems to show another case though in a different fish (Weever)? 
Though I don't know enough about the subject to feel comfortable with editing the article myself.   Doktor  Wilhelm  15:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking the same thing, to me it seems as though it may be a different species seeming as getting from the Pacific to the UK coast is quite an increase in range. The BBC article didn't name it as this species so it may not actually belong in this article. Again the fact that it is a different species of fish would back this up, generally speaking parasites tend to be pretty species specific, especially if they are replacing a body part! Smartse (talk) 15:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rare tongue-eating parasite found in the UK (09/09/09) 

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message: Could one make an argument that this is commensalism? I mean, C. exigua is feeding on the blood of the fish, yes, but the fish appears to not exactly benefit nor lose anything (minus the tongue which the parasite replaces). The article also states that it does no other harm to the host fish either.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.165.65.80 (talk) 17:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parasitism? 

message: "It appears that the parasite does not cause any other damage to the host fish" There are studies showing that Cymothoa harms  "isopod replaces language and feeds on the blood or mucus master ', while the fish may stick to their usual diet . it was suggested that the isopod acts as a true "functional" replacement for the language of the fish. however, there are some studies pointing to the negative effects of parasitic infections in their hosts, such as height, weight, or causing damage to the tissues. yet However, parasites can remain attached to the fish in a few years, growing with the growth of the fish and then separated. There are, in fact, many examples of fish experiencing them isopod parasites "[1] Damage to gill filaments and the formation of scar tissue at the site of attachment [2] (old source) said in an interview with a decrease in weight mentioned here even if, on the fish parasitic isopod more than one different sex is likely to be a lack of mass [3], but it  was not found in this study. Just notice the excessive secretion of mucus, which leads to problems with respiration [3]
"There are many species of Cymothoa, [3] but only C. exigua is known to consume and replace its host's tongue .." does not correspond to reality, there are several other species of isopods are parasitic fish in the same way (eg , Cymothoa borbonica, Ceratothoa imbricata, Glossogobius SP) [1]
As for the functional replacement of the language should probably say that this assumption [1]
I hope that will be useful for further details.
1 https://www.aaas.org/blog/qualia/tongue-eating-parasites-inspire-new-horror-movie
2 https://books.google.com.ua/books?id=G6MWAQAAIAAJ&hl=pl&num=11&redir_esc=y
3 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261700036 Олексій Стукальский (talk) 04:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , You can make changes to the article yourself to include the information you suggest. I have checked the references and they look fine, although I could not get access to the second reference. Otherwise you can suggest improved text on this talk page and someone else may transfer it into the article. If you do this, please specify the reference used for each statement. If you cannot work out how to use the wikipedia referencing system, just link to the url and another editor will fix the formatting. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:16, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

text: Done, please check if suitable. I will check against source [2] when I get it. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:09, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

text: Done, but removed Glossogobius from the list as it is a fish. Possibly a typo in the source. Please check if satisfactory. I will check against source [4] when i get it, but is covered by source [1]
If you do not have access to any of the links please write to stykalski@gmail.com I will throw you a PDF
1 https://www.aaas.org/blog/qualia/tongue-eating-parasites-inspire-new-horror-movie
2 RS Brusca; MR Gilligan (1983). "Changing the language in marine fish (Lutjanus guttatus) parasitic isopod (Crustacea: Isopoda)". Copeia. 3 (3): 813-816. DOI: 10,2307 / 1444352. JSTOR 1444352.
3 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261700036
4 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00227-013-2284-7 Олексій Стукальский (talk) 22:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  clarification to article 

message: Can someone find the original link 74.77.118.11 (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  9th reference link is hijacked by a spammer 

message: I am removing "This is the only known case of a parasite assumed to be functionally replacing a host organ." as it is from a 1982 source and is contradicted by "Other species of isopods known to parasitize fish in this way include C. borbonica and Ceratothoa imbricata." which cites a 2013 source. Idrathereatpie (talk) 19:05, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only parasite to replace organ?