Talk:Hess Educational Organization

message: Hess has published many supplements to it's primary curriculum. However the games and create a comic that a user insists upon adding are hardly worth mentioning as published materials. In fact they are hardly ever referenced and new teachers are often discouraged from playing the games mentioned. 
 
As an expert on the writer and the organization, I'm taking it down. 
It's not a personal attack if it A. Doesn't mention someone by name B. happens to be true. I don't want to see any more about the comic or the games on this page. Skettios 11:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Per WP:RS, I think Hess's own website will suffice to cite most of the claims in the article concerning what Hess teachers, how it teachers, and what programs it offers, as it qualifies as basic biographical info. Citations need to be made of Hess's published course books in the explanation of their teaching style. I think Hess itself counts as a reputable publisher due to the peer editing of its books and status in the industry (it's not a small fly-by-night publishing house and it does have education experts on its payroll), so its own books satisfy WP:V to an extent sufficient for this article. I've marked several spots with the "citation needed" template where citing Hess books won't do - these sentences need 3rd party comments to back them up. Xuanwu 03:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding Citations

message: We are probably not going to find citations for this stuff, I'm not going to point the finger for original research since I contributed some of it, I also don't know where to find citations. Should we take it down? Skettios 14:49, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: The information listed in this section of the page is incorrect.  Attempts have been made to edit it or delete, but users have restored the incorrect information.
Hess' teacher turnover is not 65%+ in the first 3 months.  This is easy to work out by using simple numbers.  Hess employs around 500 foreign teachers.  Hess hires around 250 new teachers a year.  65%+ turnover in 3 months would mean the need to hire over 500 new teachers a year.  Clearly, this doesn't happen so the 65%+ number is incorrect.
Statements in the article about the treatment and pay of Taiwan staff unsubstantiated with facts.  However, some pay facts include: base starting pay around NT$28,000 per month, plus overtime for extra classes plus bonuses for returning students (taking the total to between NT$30-35,000 per month).  This is less than the Taiwan average wage (approx NT$43,000 per month), but this is an entry-level position so not at all unusual.
EDIT: (Different user) Most college graduates make less than NT$30,000 per month after graduation. Working at Hess is also not a full-time position for many teachers, in terms of actual hours spent in classes. The real injustice is the proportional payments of the NST for 20 hours vs. the CT for 40 hours. This also causes some tensions between the two working groups.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.204.128.82 (talk) 13:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: "Staff Turnover and Morale"