Talk:Calypso music

message: I removed:
Lord Invader did not have a band called the Twelve Penetrators, and probably did not write "Zombie Jamboree" which is credited to Conrad Mauge. This story comes from a spoken introduction to the song by the Kingston Trio.
Because I don't understand it enough to incorporate the info, and I hate it when somebody contradicts the previous paragraph with new information that attempts to correct it.  It's a roundabout way of doing things -- if the info on Lord Invader isn't correct, then correct it, but this schizophrenic method of adding contradictory information within the same article is just silly. User:Tokerboy
: I agree.  I removed the "Twelve Penetrators" from the main article; I don't know if he ever had a band called that but on the few Lord Invader cuts I have that isn't listed.  -- Infrogmation
Sorry, I wanted to correct the mistake but didn't know if it was OK to just remove it. James Fryer (posted the removed section).
::There really was a Lord Invader, but the Twelve Penetrators was a slightly blue song intro joke by Dave Guard before the Kingston Trio's performance of it on their landmark ...From the Hungry i album. But Invader didn't write the song - it was written by Winston O'Connor, a Trinidadian whose stage name was "Lord Intruder" who for whatever reason made up the "C.E. Mauge" pseudonym.But since that album sold 900,000 copies, the myth has persisted to this day.Sensei48 (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Conrad Mauge and Lord Intruder were not the same person as far as I can ascertain. My belief is that Mauge copyrighted Intruder/O'Connor's song as happened to many songs in the mid-20th century (e.g. Invader's Rum & Coca Cola, Lion's Ugly Woman, the Jamaican folk song Day-O). However there are no reliable external sources for this. See the articles Jumbie Jamberee and Lord Intruder. Someone recently changed the credits in those articles to Mauge because there is documentation for his copyright even though it is probable he stole the song rather than writing it. James Fryer (talk) 09:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Another Correction

message: If anyone knows it, it would be very informative to add the actual history of the term Calypso and how the music came to be named (for example, I would guess that it is not based on the Greek Sea Nymph or the Cousteau ship or camera, but I don't know).
:There are a few theories, but no-one knows for sure.  Some say it derives from "Kaiso", others from a slave named "Calypso" (slaves were often given Classical names).  I'll see if I can dig out some references.  Guettarda 23:01, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the term Calypso in "Calypso Music" 

message: Can someone explain what this means:
"Early forms of calypso were also heavily influenced by jazz such as Sans Humanitae, the extempo melody in which calypsonians lyricise impromptu, commenting socially or insulting each other, without humanity - once again the French influence."--24.15.11.254 06:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wisky Tango Foxtrot? 

message: I agree that he is, but I'm not sure that's something that's testable or encylopedic.  I removed it.
129.79.32.239 (talk) 20:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kitchener as melodic genius 

message: Isn't there an example in Wikimedia Commons that can be added here? Abisharan (talk) 22:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  media 

message: Hi
I am concerned that a user - Howie Bledsoe - is editing articles and not listening to advice. I tried to help him by copyediting one article for him, Lovey's String Band, put the refs in properly and left a note on his talk page [] with advice on how to improve his edits.
I have told him that he needs to check his edits as there have been many cases of him incorrectly adding carriage returns and spaces. This is resulting in articles wiht 6 or 7 paragraphs ending up being one huge paragraph such as Calypso music(where the lead summary is now longer than the article itself)  Wilmoth_Houdini, Blake Alphonso Higgs, Lionel Belasco, Harry Belafonte#Film career and Lionel Belasco.
You also now have a List of calypso musicians that is peppered with red links introduced mainly by him.
He is also refusing to add edit summaries, in the around 100 edits he has done there is NOT ONE summary
Can someone have a look at his work please before this gets out of hand.
He is a new user and I am trying to give him leeway before starting more vigourous methods of control
Thanks...Chaosdruid (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problematic edits 

message: Here’s what is said,
“The term "calypso" is recorded from the 1930s onwards. The word was bastardized into "Calypso" when the early European settlers put the word into print.”
In the page about Trinidad and Tobago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_and_Tobago it says that the early settlers got there as early as 1498.  How could the early European settlers bastardize a word that wasn’t used until the 1930’s?  Either the info about when the word was first recorded is wrong or the part about the early settlers is wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.11.120.189 (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronological error 

message: No mention that modern calypso instrumentation from the early 20th century is actuality JAZZ. Most of THE INSTRUMENTS USED ARE FROM Jazz. Jazz was the very First Black western popular music that traveled internationally. Jazz exploded in the 1920's which is they same time Calypso started to become more well known. Most of the instrumentation is the same is you are not using modern technology  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starbwoy (talk • contribs) 02:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The earliest recordings from Trinidad (1910s to mid 20s) are of string bands with a Spanish American influence but after this you are correct, jazz instrumentation and arrangements became more popular. There is definitely a jazz influence on calypso arrangements from the late 20s onwards. There is some evidence the influence went both ways, as Trinidadian musicians travelled to the US and some stayed there. It's not really clear to me though what your point is or how it could be incorporated into the article? James Fryer (talk) 09:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jazz Instrumentation 

message: — Assignment last updated by Rokeena (talk) 03:42, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Black American Music 209

message: This article will be useful for editors eager to expand this article: https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20171010-the-surprising-politics-of-calypso --Danimations (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good detailed source for article expansion