Talk:List of historic United States Marines

message: Removing the names of Marines who have made history in the Corps is considered vandalism and may deemed as rascist since the names removed are Hispanics. Joseph V. Medina, made USMC history when he became the first Marine in history to take command of a Naval flotilla, Angela Salinas made USMC history when she became the first Hispanic female to become a United States Marine Corps general officer and the first woman to command the Recruit Depot. France Silva was the first Hispanic-American Marine Medal of Honor and Pedro del Valle not only became the first Hispanic to reach the rank of Lieutenant General, del Valle led Company A of the 1st Battalion 5th Marines to capture Shuri Castle, a medieval fortress of the ancient Ryukyuan kings. Seizure of Shuri Castle represented a moral blow for the Japanese and was an undeniable milestone in the Okinawa campaign during World War II. If there is any doubt as to the historical contributions of these people then consult:     United States Marine Corps Historical Division. Further deletion of content may led to edit blocking. Tony the Marine 05:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing names

message: Is this the best name for this article? I'm not contesting the list itself, but I wonder if "historically important" is the best possible descriptor (and, as a side note, if it is the best title, shouldn't it be lower-case to conform to naming conventions?). Carom (talk) 05:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a suggestion for a better article title? — ERcheck (talk) 05:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not entirely sure - the current title just struck me as a little odd. "Historically Important" seems to imply a larger significance than is born out by the commentary in the article. Perhaps substituting "significant" for "important?" Or perhaps something that adds more context - the lead indicates that these are individuals whose significance is primarily within the Marine Corps itself; maybe "List of U.S. Marines significant in Marine Corps lore"? Unwieldy, I know, and not a particularly desirable choice anyway. Just some thoughts, really. Carom (talk) 05:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Query

message: This articles was tagged as possible original research, needing references.  All on this list have the summarized details in their referenced Wikipedia articles.  I've added a few citations, but the nature of the list — with each person having a Wikipedia article — makes it implicitly referenced. — ERcheck (talk) 00:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Referencing

message: It could be argued that all of the Medal of Honor recipients, sergeants major of the Marine Corps and the Commandants should be on this list. Before I add them however I would like to request input on this statement. --Kumioko (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are seperate lists for those individuals. I don't see a particular need to duplicate them here. Feel free to add them to the "See Also" section if they aren't already. bahamut0013wordsdeeds  05:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions to this page

message: Apparently, if we leave blank lines between items in a list, then the wiki software declares it to be a bunch of unrelated, single-item lists.  This means that anyone who uses a screen reader hears "A list of one item" before each and every item on the page.  Consequently, the folks at WP:ACCESS have requested that we please remove the inappropriate blank lines.  I've done this for this page, and ask for your help in keeping it that way.  Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: List formatting:  No blank lines

message: Recommend removing John Ripley.  Although certainly a notable Marine & great example, I don't believe being in the a Hall of Fame makes you "historically notable". Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 00:29, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely you jest, good sir. Numerous valor awards (including a Navy Cross), Some buildings and a FOB named after him, thr Ranger Hall of Fame (I think being a Marine inducted there is incredibly notable), and his actions at Dong Ha bridge being very well known all sum up to historical notability. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 12:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't agree more that he is notable as a great, well known Marine & a standout in many ways.  The criteria here is "historically notable".  Not sure being inducted into a hall of fame means he is historically notable.  To my mind "historical notable" is reserved for a Marine who is the first at doing something important for the service or country or someone who shapes the Corps.  I can cite thousands of Marines with valorous acts or deeds of strategic implication on the battlefield if that is the criteria for inclusion here.  Just some thoughts on this list.  Thanks!  FieldMarine (talk) 13:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Then we have differing definitions of historically notable. I believe the scope is not necessarily "notable to the Corps as a whole", but individuals whose notability stems from thier service as a Marine (i.e. the other half of the coin to list of notable United States Marines, whose scope is individuals who served but notability is not associated with thier service). Granted that, yes, the list is wildly incomplete. The reason I must disagree with your definition is that it trends into an area that can only be subjectively decided (i.e. deeming one individual worthy and another not will tend toward OR). bahamut0013wordsdeeds 15:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[John Ripley (USMC)]]

message: Miller, Ellis B. COL, USMC 220.238.42.127 (talk) 10:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting article 

message: This list is somewhat biased since Asian Americans, Gay / Lesbian / Transgender Americans, Indian Americans, Muslim Americans and Native Americans are curiously absent from this list. My son wrote a 20 page report about the first Transgender Marine yet I fail to see him mentioned here. If a nine year old can find the references, I am certain so could the rest of us, and I don't mean to be judgmental or discriminatory here, but we must as a global society be more inclusive of diversity.
Thank you , Meishern (talk) 07:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Your nine year old son wrote a 20 page report on the first transgender Marine? FieldMarine (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many Historically Notable Marines from Minority Groups Conspicuously Missing