Talk:Geography of China/Archive 1

message: The map on this page needs some NPOVing to be like :Image:Smaller_map_of_China.png. --Jiang 07:24 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
: Done. --[So how your going tooday??
::That would be me. You see, a lot of the articles had american comparisons, so I wanted to NPOV that. this being the english wikipedia, I added english countries. You will see these comparisons on some articles, but most of them dont have it yet. Earl Andrew 19:21, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: In the WikiProject Wikipedia:Nuttall_Encyclopedia_topics, we hit on the "Yung-Ling" mountains,
:Yung-Ling is a mountain range running north and south, which forms the eastern buttress of the tableland of Central Asia.
Does anybody know, what the current name of these mountains is? The source is from 1907, and Google doesn't help much. Is it Da Hinggan Ling? Thanks--J heisenberg 15:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Who knows this mountain range?

message: Is there a reason why the Great Wall is listed as 3300 km long here?
Other sources (including Great Wall of China) put it at ~6350 km.
i don't want to change it since i don't know if this is a reference to
a particular part of the wall ...
--Sbmehta 07:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great wall length 

message: I summed up measures of each border but got a strange result...
 = 
According to the article are Chinese Land boundaries: total: 22,143.34 km. What's the point? --Miincee 11:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borders 

message: The article currently states that the Gobi Desert is "one of the world's largest and hottest", while Gobi Desert states "The Gobi desert is a cold desert", and Geography of Mongolia states extreme temperatures of 38C in the Gobi.  The later quoted 45C here is not attributed to any source.  Temperatures in the interior of Australia, or the Middle East, or the Sahara, and indeed elsewhere in China, regularly go into the high 40's, and even the low 50's, which would seem to make the claim that the Gobi is one of the hottest dubious at best.  High temperatures attributed to Western China would seem to be better attributed to the Tarim Basin & its associated Taklamakan Desert, which indeed has anecdotal high temperatures of 50+C, but which is not considered geologically to be a part of the Gobi.  This is supported in the article Gobi Desert in the geography section.
Additionally, List of deserts by area puts the Gobi at #4 for size.  I'm proposing this line should be changed to the factual statement "the world's fourth largest desert", with a link to the appropriate Gobi Desert wiki page. Fehrgo 15:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gobi Desert 

message: THE MAP SHOWING CHINA HISTORIC MACRO AREAS SHOULD NOT BE DELECTED.  THE CURRENT CHINA POLITICAL, CULTURAL, ETHNIC CRISES IS HAPPENDING BECAUSE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS AVOIDING THESE REALITY ABOUT CHINA.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korean1manchuria (talk • contribs) 12:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge/Delete 

message: I have undone the move from "Geography of China" to "Geography of mainland China" because no reason was given. "Geography of the People's Republic of China" need to be merged because it is a near duplication of this article.--Jiang (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the recent renaming of the PRC article, this makes even more sense now. Readin (talk) 14:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: The last sentence on the 2nd paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. 84.13.33.63 (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 2nd paragraph

message: Both of these articles seem to be extremely similar and should be merged together as they basically seem to be duplicates of each other. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Geography of the People's Republic of China 

message: Previously, the Geography of China and the Geography of the People's Republic of China (PRC) existed as separate articles, with the former including description of the geography of the Republic of China and the latter restricted only to the geography of land actually controlled by the PRC.  After the merger of the two China geography articles into the Geography of China, this article now includes both the geographies of the People's Republic of China and Republic of China.  The addition of the following into the topography section is not POV:
:The highest point on the island of Taiwan is Yushan at 3,952m.  The island of Hainan reaches a maximum elevation 1840m in the Wuzhi Mountains. 
:ContinentalAve (talk) 08:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So the decision has been made to push the Chinese POV that Taiwan is part of China?  When was this decision made?  I don't see it in the discussion.  I don't see evidence of a request for merge or request for move.  Nor do I see a request for a waiver of the NPOV policy. Given how small Taiwan is compared to mainland China, it is quite possible to write an article that is NPOV by not making special mentions of Taiwan and by pointing the controversy when it is necessary to mention Taiwan.   The addition of the highest points in Taiwan and Hainan appears to be an attempt to find some way to include Taiwan in the article and thus reinforce Chinese claims rather than an attempt to provide relevant non-trivial information. Readin (talk) 14:02, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-merger, the article now includes geography of all of China(s) including the Republic of China (Taiwan) 

message: Hello, I found a source stating : "China have been divided by communists into 5 homogeneous physical macro-regions, namely as the Eastern China (subdivided into the northeast plain, north plain, and southern hills), Xinqiang-mongolia, and the Tibetan-highlands". I reorganized the Topography section accordingly. But the section need several fixes :
# find a better balance between sections
## find a better balance between important and non-important physical items, and their importance in texts
# write again with a better English and smoother subject change
# merge with sections #Geography ?
Yug (talk) 21:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a clean up, but the article's outline is pretty poor, thus the repetitions (#Geography, #Topography, ...) A better approach by layers is to encourage. The Geography of the United Kingdom's outile is interesting. Yug (talk) 09:18, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topography section : check need 

message: A new outline heve been proposed. This outline purpose is to ease the NEEDED full rewriting of this article. If you can source and write one single section with with ~15 sourced lines, your help is welcome ! Yug (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New outline : toward the article rewriting 

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=U6VDAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=TEcNAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=DlICAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 22:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Western Geographies of China 

message: I have removed the above section of the lead because it is uncited and when looking for information to back it up I found instead conflicting information and a lack of consensus on the matter, such as here and here talking about a "ladder topography", and not agreeing on a number of basic regions to divide the country into. If you know where the information came from and have a source, please add it back in. Messier104 (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2015‎ (UTC)
: This similar sentence,  "The topography of China has been divided by the Chinese government into five homogeneous physical macro-regions, namely Eastern China (subdivided into the northeast plain, north plain, and southern hills), Xinjiang-Mongolia, and the Tibetan highlands.[4]," starts the general overview.  It is confusing because of the placement of the parentheses.  It says five regions, and then gives only three.  It takes re-reading to guess that, instead of some sort of mistake in counting, the five regions are nep, np, sh, XM, and Th.  A better wording would be something like, XM, Th, nep,np, and sh (the last three also lumped together as EC).' Kdammers (talk) 03:26, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of section of lead (china has been divided into...) 

message: I'm just placing a notice that this page contains definite copyvio  from this source. Elysia (Wiki Ed) (talk • contribs) 20:33, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio