Talk:Springfield, Illinois

message: Kranar wants to wrap this collaboration up, I think he may have moved on. But before this article makes it to GAC there are a number of open issues that still have not been satisfactorily addressed. They are listed below. Cross them off as they are done, then we can archive this, the peer review and go for GA.
#Should submit to League of Copyeditors once all other concerns are addressed.
#Geography section is still basically about Lake Springfield.
#Looks like the consensus on tornadoes was keep as is, just as a note.  IvoShandor 23:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reworking intro, original with cites below:
Springfield is the capital of the U.S. state of Illinois and the county seat of Sangamon County. Officially founded as a temporary county seat on April 10, 1821, it had its seat made permanent on March 18, 1825.History of Sangamon County Retrieved on February 23, 2007 It was incorporated as a town on April 2, 1832 and was granted a city charter on April 6, 1840. Springfield became the capital of Illinois on February 28, 1837, and the Legislature convened there for the first time on December 9, 1839. Its population was 111,454 as of the 2000 census, and, as of 2005 census estimates, the city population had grown to 115,668.Springfield, IL Retrieved on February 23, 2007
Springfield played prominently in the careers of two U.S. presidents. Abraham Lincoln began his political career in the city and Ulysses S. Grant began his career as an officer in the Civil War  in Springfield. Abraham Lincoln, being a prominent past citizen, is affiliated with several local historic sites and the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum. Springfield is also home to the University of Illinois at Springfield, a campus of the University of Illinois system. Springfield has also experienced difficulties, including race riots and at least two tornado outbreaks with touchdowns. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IvoShandor (talk • contribs) 23:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put up my new intro, if any of hte info above can be worked into it after the history section is done I will. IvoShandor 03:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: That is a pretty good intro. I say post it!--Kranar drogin 02:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: While the issues above do need to be sorted out, its not as if we used a bunch of unreliable sources, there are just better ones. I am nominating for GA now, to see where it goes. I think it meets the criteria. I will copy edit again as it waits for review. IvoShandor 11:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Many of the issues above would be more applicable to an FAC than a GAC, as is I believe this probably passes the good article criteria. And I am pretty harsh reviewer, just ask User:Bbik. : ) IvoShandor 11:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the article falls into GAC, with some expansion going into FAC. I agree that it is ready, and am eager to see what others have to say. To see what this was originally to what it is now is a VAST improvement.--Kranar drogin 11:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I am going to do a few minor tweaks, add some refs and I should have it ready to go by tonite. Also some of the sites you listed below have articles, I mean some of the red linked ones, under different names, for instance Dana-Thomas House. IvoShandor 11:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrapping up? Nope - outstanding issues

message: Later on, I think some of these will need articles for Springfield. I found most of them on my Google Earth program.
*Henson Robinson Zoo Museum
*Henson Robinson Zoo - http://www.hensonrobinsonzoo.org/ 
*Nelson Center Arena
*The Pearson Museum
*Illinois Preservation Agency Museum
*Vachel Lindsay House Museum
*Dana-Thomas House
*Springfield Art Museum
*Chinquapin Bridge (historical)
*Coal Bank Bridge
*Mowery Bend
*Roby West Oil Field
*Glasser Bridge
*Sugar Creek Covered Bridge
*Lindsey Bridge
*Horseshoe Lake (Illinois) (historical)
*Halfmoon Lake (Illinois)
*Wiggins Slough
*Cow Pond (historical)
*Clear Lake
*Shaft Pond
*Mud Lake (Illinois)
*Sangchris Lake
*Leisure Lakes
*Weingardt Pond 
Forgot to sign.--Kranar drogin 04:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Places

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Good job. DoomsDay349 22:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Passed GA

message: Should we remove Ursuline from the high school list since they closed after the 2007 school year?Tinkleheimer 20:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can, or we can just note that it closed in the article, whatever seems good and right. IvoShandor 20:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says that Springfield is home to "at least eight high schools".  As far as I know it is home to only six - Springfield High, Southeast, and Lanphier are public, Sacred Heart-Griffin, Calvary Academy and Lutheran High are private.  There are a number of other schools in the area, but those six are the only high schools in Springfield proper. JAM Junior (talk) 03:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case doesn't the question come up of how to deal with a high school like Glenwood? Meaning, a large number of Glenwood's students are actually Springfield city residents -- so does Glenwood end up being "one of the eight" or something altogether different? That said, does Riverton High pull from part of the north/northeast side of Springfield too, or not? JasonDUIUC (talk) 06:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ursuline Academy

message: It is such I nice article, I didn't want to just change it without comment. However, Washington and Lincoln are the city's two major parks, not Washington and Carpenter. The current section says that Washington and Carpenter are the two best known which is NPOV problem (best known by who?) but it is relatively indisputable that Washington and Lincoln are the two major parks. Washington has the Carillon and the Botanical Gardens. Lincoln has Nelson Center.ColinBlair 23:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What I can say is Colin, those of us who do not live there, do not know this. So what you are going to have to do is provide a source. That entire section is going to have to be rewritten I believe with sources. So is there a park district website? I see that Carpenter Park, Springfield, Illinois was created about the park, so I will have to say provide me with sources and we can see about correcting this if this is a problem.--Kranar drogin 23:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is hard to justify with sources that Washington and Lincoln are the two primary parks, you can look through the park distict website at www.springfieldparks.org and see that links to information on both parks are on each page. However, nothing is really conclusive. One thing I did find is a refrence at http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A3250 that states conclusively that Washington park is the flagship park of the city. Since that is the only thing that can be backed by third party reference, maybe that is where it should be left. The problem with Carpenter Park is that it isn't in Springfield itself, it is north of Springfield and is really a nature preseve with trails and no infrastructure other than a stone-and-log shelter and two port-a-potties.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.135.58.157 (talk) 02:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Parks

message: Nothing happened in the city after 1908? Hard to believe. Rmhermen (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I came to this talk page to note the same problem. There is currently nothing in the history section between 1908 and 2006. While there's already perhaps too much focus on race, the city was the site of a famous KKK rally in 1994, for example. It'd be worth a short sentence in a normal history section, but it'd be too much in the deficient section we have now.   Will Beback  talk   21:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: As I do appreciate the monitoring of the Springfield, Illinois Wikipedia entry, I do not feel as though the inclusion of a historical attraction violates the general integrity of the entry itself. In fact, it only furthers the appeal and admiration of Illinois' capital city.
66.92.140.106 (talk) 18:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: In the "education" section, it says that Southeast High School replaced Feitshans in 1974. Southeast actually opened in the fall of 1967. The last high school graduating class at Feitshans wss in the spring of 1967.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.78.55 (talk) 04:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southeast High School  

message: Sports I like it so far, but it could use some work... we need to mention the Springfield_(IL)_Cardinals and our hockey teams... the Kings, the Junior Blues. I'm willing to work on it myself, but I'm brand new... nice job on the football teams.  I only recently heard of the Foxes myself, and I live here...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryvoid (talk • contribs) 11:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports section could be expanded... 

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message: Not comfortable editing but noted this erroneous info. The lake is formed by the damming of Sugar Creek at the southeast edge of Springfield. Lick Creek makes up a small part of the lake but is a tributary of Sugar Creek, entering the lake from the west and well upstream of the dam.
98.215.239.196 (talk) 14:49, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lake Springfield = damming of Sugar Creek, not Lick Creek. 

message: What happened in Springfield prior to European settlement? 2604:3D09:CD7A:1E0:A564:DCA9:B4A5:EE00 (talk) 13:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: ...if Springfield City Council positions are nonpartisan, then why is the current sitting mayor marked as a Republican. To my recollection as an Illinois resident, Springfield HAS NEVER held partisan primaries for any of the city council positions, including mayor, clerk, and treasurer.
Point of reference being the election results from the April 4, 2023 consolidated election: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/IL/Sangamon/117728/web.307039/#/summary
My point is proven through the past four election cycles:
2019: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/IL/Sangamon/94957/Web02.228981/#/
2015: https://sccdata.net/results/April-7-2015-Consolidated/cumm.htm#spi
2011: https://sccdata.net/results/April-5-2011-Consolidated/cumm.htm#spi
2007: https://sccdata.net/results/April%2017,%202007%20Consolidated/cumm.htm#CITYOFSPRINGFIELD
In order words, the mayor should be listed as nonpartisan (NP) or independent (I)  Himnmedia2017 (talk) 10:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ummm...so Springfield City Council positions are nonpartisan...