Talk:Mongolian Armed Forces

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Military of Mongolia's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Janes":
From BMP-1: 
From ZSU-23-4:  
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 10:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Military of Mongolia]] 

message: neither in the weapons listed and neither a link thats why i removed it  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 343zoz (talk • contribs) 18:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  no prove for polish supply 

message: * pics or it didn't happen --SojerPL (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: *SIPRI: http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php 
Russia
                 2      Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H	Helicopter	2007	2008	2	Mi-171 version; probably aid
     		(75)	5V27/SA-3B Goa	SAM	(2008)	2010	(75)	Ex-Russian
     		20	BTR-80	APC	2009	2011	20	Probably ex-Russian; aid
     		(2)	S-125M/SA-3B	SAM system	2009	2010	(2)	Ex-Russian; modernized to Pechora-2M before delivery
USSR            
                 15     An-24/Coke	Transport aircraft	(1974)	1975	(15)	Incl for MIAT (military) airline
     		(30)	MiG-21PFM/Fishbed-F	Fighter aircraft	(1977)	1978-1984	(30)	Ex-Soviet; incl some MiG-21US trainer version; no. could be up to 44
     		10	Mi-8T/Hip-C	Helicopter	(1979)	1980-1981	(10)	
     		(1)	Mi-2/Hoplite	Light helicopter	(1980)	1980	(1)	Probably from Polish production line
     		(4)	An-26/Curl	Transport aircraft	(1981)	1982	(4)	
     		10	Mi-24D/Hind-D	Combat helicopter	1988	1988	(10)	Ex-Soviet
No signs of MiG-29s, Su-27s or 25 Mi-24s. --SojerPL (talk) 11:14, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

text: * It's 2013 - World Air Forces 2013 http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/reports_pdf/world-air-forces-2013-101015.aspx
2010
MONGOLIAN AIR FORCE
Type Active Ordered
TRANSPORT
An-26 3
COMBAT HELICOPTER
Mi-8 25
Mi-24 25
2011/12
MONGOLIAN AIR FORCE
Type Active Ordered
Transport
An-26 3
Combat helicopter
Mi-8 25
Mi-24 25
2013
MONGOLIAN AIR FORCE
Type Active Ordered
Transport
An-26 3
Combat helicopter
Mi-8/171 13
Mi-24 10 
* http://armedforces.blog.gogo.mn/read/entry30813 is blog, not a source.
* www.xairforces.net/airforces.asp?id=193 is not a link and source until you use http://... 
--SojerPL (talk) 12:08, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  MiG-29 

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message: According to Law of Mongolia on Armed forces (enacted on 1st September 2016) Mongolian Armed Forces consists of two branches: Ground forces and Air force.  In case of war situation Border troops, Internal troops and National emergency management agency will be reorganized into the armed forces structure. During peacetime Border troops and Internal troops are under direct control of the Ministry of the Jurisdiction and Home affairs, National emergency management agency is act as a independent government agency. Since Mongolia is the landlocked country, there is no navy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruul 04 (talk • contribs) 13:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ground and Air force of the Mongolian Armed forces 

message: Please do not add navy section anymore, because Mongolia is the second biggest landlocked country, therefore no navy. Sukhbaatar was originally used as tugboat for Khatgal-Khankh transport before 1990. Now she is property of tour company and being used for 2 hour closed-loop cruises in Khovsgol lake during summer. Crew members are not military personnel, but wear uniforms to create impression to tourists.Here is the information about ship in official owner company web page. So it is wrong to assume that a private tourist ship is a naval vessel.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruul 04 (talk • contribs) 07:37, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because the country is landlocked, doesn't mean it can't have a navy (see Brown-water navy, or the Swiss navy). Furthermore, you have provided no source that the 7 sources which were provided are wrong in the article are wrong. Even if the navy is exclusively commercial now, it was still mentioned in the section that is used privately. Please thoroughly read what is written before removing it. Skjoldbro (talk) 10:49, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make sure the sources about navy in Khovsgol lake is correct next time. Mongolia did not have a navy/marine army since the Yuan dynasty. Sukhbaatar ship has used before goods transport purpose and now used ONLY FOR TRAVEL PURPOSES and never used for military purposes such as patrolling. I'm Mongolian and i know there is no navy in our country.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruul 04 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Personal accounts is not helpful, you need to have verifiable sources to support your claim. Plus, the section clearly states that it has been used commercially since the 1990's. Please read things through before reverting or removing them. Skjoldbro (talk) 14:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Mongolian Armed forces consists: Mongolian Army, Mongolian Air forcehttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/mg.html. CIA World factbook is more reliable source than other websites, and here navy is not mentioned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruul 04 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The section has now been reworded to be all past-tense, so the information is still present, but acknowledges that is not a real navy anymore. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please do not add navy section anymore