Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Square Enix/Dragon Quest archive

message: Well, since popular series like Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts all have their own soundtrack album wiki pages, why doesn't DQ have one? Granted, the music from the series is perhaps some of the most complexing pieces of work by a video game composer, and many of the albums were even performed by London Philharmonic Orchestra! The impact that DQ has on video game music is profound, as it is the first video game series to be performed in a concert hall. --Aresmo 21:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtracks 

message: I think we need to discuss this more before deciding when to use the original Japanese names or English localized names. Zenithian 23:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, while both names should be used in the article on Eridrick himself, as I said above (but had forgotten to sign in), their is a precedence in Wikipedia to use the name that is most popular. I would generally think the more accessible gameboy game name of Loto should be used in the majority of the page. SMimas 00:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Reading the project page again, I think agree that "In general, new localizations supersede older localizations" since they will become what the popular name is, but that is only more reason that Eridrick needs to be changed to Loto. In the same place we can put Kukuru/Angelo instead since that is a case of a difference based on localization. SMimas 00:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: That's why it is important that the site mentions that he is called Eridrick and that Eridrick redirects to Loto. I'm not suggesting that we never use the name Eridrick, I'm just saying that through the article the default name should be Loto and the article name should be Loto. As I said, as a Japanophile purist I personally use Roto (Even though I was brought up with Eridrick.) but Loto is the last version of the name that Enix put out, so that is the name I think we should go by. SMimas 01:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, Dragon Warrior stays for DQ I-IV & VII since the most recent release called them that. The differences in names probably only belong in the related game info. Like in Dragon Warrior the we write "Loto (Eridrick in the original Nintendo release) for the first instance of Eridrick, and then change any further mentions of his name to Loto. SMimas 17:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go back and read Siyavash's writing.  He proposes to eliminate confusion by calling Dragon Warrior II (and the other pre-Dragon Quest VIII games) by their original Japanese names, so every Dragon Warrior# page would need to be renamed Dragon Quest#. Zenithian 20:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that is what Siyavash wrote, but as in the case of Erdrick I'm suggesting that latest localization should be given preference. While the games would be called Dragon Quest if they were re-released now anyone in North America can only find the game in (used) stores under the name Dragon Warrior. SMimas 20:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, that gives a point towards Erdrick, but Loto probably counts as an official name, and so there is a point for that as well. SMimas 20:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming Conventions

message: This is my very first time working with wikipedia to create or edit pages.  I have found information at Wikipedia, but I never created any information for Wikipedia.  Anyways, since I don't work-- I should have lots of time on my hands-- I decided to help out.
I think there should be links to external sites.  There are some listed already, however I think that the existing links could be better organized with subheadings.  What should be the style for subheadings?  I think some good names for link subheadings could be:
* Official Square Enix Sites
These sites are either hosted or funded by Square Enix.
* Fan Created Sites
These are sites created by fans of the Dragon Quest series.
* Video Game Sites
These sites preview / review video games in general, sell relevant merchandise, or provide video game communities. 
Rika95 01:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, while it is important to have some outside links Wikipedia is not for a collection of links. The official Enix sites should be here, but I've heard that only one fan site should be here to show an example of one. Video game sites should probably be only used as references. SMimas 00:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: When I went to create a site for this manga I noticed that the Japanese page for it had a link to The Lives of Dragon Quest; Crest of Roto. As the official English title of the manga is Emblem of Roto I'm going to move the page to Emblem of Roto and we can start cleaning the page up (Since it seems that it was written either by someone with little grasp of the English language or some sort of translations software.) SMimas 02:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Emblem of Roto

message: There are bound to be quite a few Dragon Quest Wikipedia pages scattered throughout this site.  I think it would help to have an index of all existing Dragon Quest pages.  This would enable us to determine how to improve them, or if we should remove them and include their data in other Dragon Quest pages.
--Rika95 19:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice idea, Rika.  We can start by looking at the DQ Category, but also have to make sure there are no pages without the category tag attached. Icecypher 20:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Siyavash tagged them all already.  Here's the ones I know - 
*Dragon Quest
*Dragon Warrior
*Dragon Warrior II
*Dragon Warrior III
*Dragon Warrior IV
*Dragon Quest V
*Dragon Quest VI
*Dragon Warrior VII
*Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
*Dragon Quest IX: Defenders of the Sky
*Dragon Warrior I & II
*Dragon Quest Monsters
*Dragon Warrior Monsters (video game)
*Dragon Warrior Monsters 2
*Dragon Quest Monsters 1+2
*Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart
*Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
*Dragon Quest Heroes
*Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
*Kenshin Dragon Quest
*Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest
*Character classes from the Dragon Quest series
*Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special
*Dragonlord (Dragon Quest)
*Erdrick
*Slime (Dragon Quest)
*Torneko
*Torneko no Daibouken: Fushigi no Dungeon
*Torneko: The Last Hope
*Torneko's Great Adventure 3: Mysterious Dungeon
*Zenithia
I did just add the WPDQ Article template to Zenithia. Zenithian 20:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Existing Dragon Quest Pages 

message: I realize that some characters from the Dragon Quest games appear in Dragon Quest manga.  I wonder how this should be done.  Should we have a single page that lists all the characters for one particular manga series that provides detailed information that pertains to them in the manga and game?  Should there be a list of the characters from that manga that only provides information that pertains to them in the manga, and then have pages about them from the game link to the manga?  Or should there be individual pages for each character in a manga that are also major characters in a Dragon Quest game?  Examples I can think of are the characters from Dragon Quest IV.  There are probably more, but I know very little about the manga.
--Rika95 00:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Quest Characters 

message: I notice that the Dragon Quest template stub is  marked for deletion.  Discussion on deleting the stub is already happening.  So far, everybody in the discussion is in favor deleting it.  I don't understand what this means, but I figure it might help to let people know about this.  If the Dragon Quest template stub gets deleted, how would this impact the chances creating organized Dragon Quest pages on Wikipedia?  --Rika95 02:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub marked for deletion 

message: Ive done a lot of work with the Dragon Quest VI page, but theres still something missing: references. And since the whole concept still confuses me of actually how to cite sources on wikipedia, Id appreciate it if someone could help. thanks : ) Evaunit666 02:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a new references section in the To-do list of the project. Since we're under scrutiny, the Dragon Quest pages will hardly grow before we add references to the ones that already exist. Icecypher 23:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The category for Dragon Quest characters needs more entries. While it is not wise nor necessary to start creating pages for every character ever to appear on a DQ game, a page listing characters from each game could be added. I just created the List of Dragon Warrior IV characters (it needs input), and some could be created for the otehr games, as well. Icecypher 23:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of characters 

message: A page for the first Dragon Quest Monsters game has been created. It is named using the japanese name, instead of the localization name. Should the page be Dragon Warrior Monster (video game), so it keeps the norm? Please reply with your opinion. Icecypher 17:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Quest Monsters page name