Talk:Hentaigana

message: "The hiragana "syllabic n" (ん) originally derives from a hentaigana for /mu/." As I understand it, ん derives from the 天 character. Can anyone shed some light on this? adamrice 19:19, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Finding public-domain images can be a problem, but if you find one, go ahead and post it. adamrice 13:51, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: I am curious about this addition: 

message: http://japan-studies.com/language/hiragana/hentaigana/ --FlareNUKE 11:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That table is far from complete. Bendono 06:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've updated the table with the info in the hiragan portion of the Kana Hentai-shuu (I don't have the katakana half). Garfieldnate (talk) 19:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full Table list: 

message: Who created the hentaigana images shown in the article? The calligraphy is beautiful. 66.171.76.241 04:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This guy most likely. --FlareNUKE 04:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters 

message: I would appreciate a cite or some backup for the idea that "iwan to suru" is a "misreading" of "iwamu to suru" -- I realize that "iwan" is a variant of "iwamu", but it can be seen as far back as the Man'youshu in the 7th century.  The idea that the written form influenced that pronunciation change is highly suspicious to me.  The section also refers to 1900 writing reforms, which I have never heard of (does the writer mean 1945?)
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I agree, this is probably wrong. According to all the Japanese language webpages I could find this is simply a case of the pronunciation shifting, without influence from the the form. I added a "citation needed".
-"david  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.129.147 (talk) 00:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  misreading? 

message: I found a site on 123explore containing a few Hentaigana related links. Here's the page: http://www.123exp-comm.com/t/23394324724/. Hope this is useful.Moocowsrule (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hentaigana links 

message: Evidently by adding a small Dakuten of Handakuten at the corner of the Hentaigana it reads as the changed character. Proof of this is on this page: http://homepage2.nifty.com/Gat_Tin/kanji/kana.htm. I'm not sure how correct this is though...Moocowsrule (talk) 05:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Info 

message: The ISO 15924 code for hentaigana is given in the infobox as Kana (411). That (confusingly) is the code for katakana, whereas hiragana is Hira (410), katakana and hiragana together are Hrkt (412) and Japanese writing in general, i.e. with kanji added to the mix, is Jpan (413). I’m not sure what the correct code for hentaigana would be, but I doubt Kana was the one. You probably wouldn’t do wrong with Jpan and perhaps Hrkt, too. Does anyone know better? — Christoph Päper 22:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISO 15924 

message: It seems that the kanji 手 have also been used for the syllable/sound te. But the only online source have been able to recover is on a Hungarian blog. You can particularly see it on this table list image. May I add it to the Kanji origins of Kana table? — Lacrymocéphale 17:38, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  手 

message: im coming at this as someone with a basic knowledge of hiragana and their origins, and i find this table immensely confusing. i cannot imagine how this page must look to someone who doesn't know hiragana at all. some of these i'm able to infer from context, but some examples of things that are not explained include:
* what the bracketed characters mean in relation to the ones they're next to
* what the bold characters in the cell headings are
* why 'wu' is empty
* what ∅ means
* why cells have a variable number of characters (is there significance to that?)
* whether there is significance to the order of the characters in each cell
the 'sources of hentaigana' table isn't a whole lot less confusing; in particular, why is there a column headed "Hentaigana" that appears to only have regular kanji in it, and not the hentaigana that have been introduced in the table above? under "gallery", i am told that 'some of' these examples are one thing, and 'others' are another, but i am given no clues which are which
i don't really have answers for any of this, i just wanted to share that this page felt very confusing and unhelpful to me 2A00:23C7:BDC2:D201:B6F2:1A78:93CC:BD62 (talk) 15:41, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  the table of "standardized hentaigana" is pretty impenetrable