Talk:Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone

message: Hi. To me, it makes the most sense to keep information about the production in the Rebuild of Evangelion article, and reference it from that. There is just one problem with that, and that is the name of the article itself, as "Rebuild of Evangelion" is the name that Newtype gave its feature on the movies. Then again, it's not necessarily the "official" name that is used here on Wikipedia, but the most commonly recognized one. Thoughts? --GunnarRene 14:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. Having separate articles for each movie is not necessary and it can all be contained in the single Rebuild article, which is like you said the most commonly recognized and most suitable name.Fox816 23:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that I said "information about the production". By that I meant "making-of" info. But I guess what you suggest could work too. It all depends on article size. --GunnarRene 08:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production information 

message: Anyone knows when it's gonna be released in home video in Japan? It's been 3 months since the premiere. --T0rek 21:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Release 

message: someone posted an unverified release date and publisher and i couldnt find any confirmation of it anywhere, so i removed it.  if anyone finds an appropriate citation, feel free to revert. DrIdiot (talk) 03:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDB says the release date  for America is 22 February 2008 , but until an offical release date is anounced (or until it is released) it is best not to post any date. I agree with you DrIdiot that IMBD is often wrong about release dates.I am interested in when it will come out in English, I hope soon. - Prede (talk) 03:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would have to be re-dubbed, and it is still unreleased in some parts of Asia. We might be looking at a 2009 release in the States.--Surfaced (talk) 08:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If it has a 2009 release it may just be released with  eva 2.0 as well in english eh? I can't wait until it comes out in english I wanna see it! - Prede (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  united states release date 

message: I've noticed that a lot of people are submitting changes to the article which interpret evidence in the film to suggest that the new Rebuild films may be a sequel to the original story. While I personally think this may well be likely, until further evidence in the next film (or confirmation by the filmmakers), I think we should refrain from posting opinions about the plot and what it may mean, as it is more speculation than confirmable fact. If others are with me on this, I think we should try to minimize these changes, as they are not in line with an accurate presentation of authentic fact.
LainEverliving LainEverloving (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. This would be original research. We all know the main theory that's been circulating about this movie, but as long as it is not substanciated by anything concrete, we won't write the movie's plot in the light of this theory. We just describe things as they are and we don't draw subjective parallels. If the theory is proven right in the following movies, then we'll probably note it. But currently there's nothing more than that, so let's not anticipate on future developments. Our job is not to imply there could be connections while we don't know anything yet, just to describe what happens. Noticing similarities is already expressing a personal point of view, considering we don't even know what are Anno's intentions, so assuming things like that is going a bit too far. Folken de Fanel (talk) 11:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel to the Original Evangelion...? 

message: The matter has come up:  should the article mention that the final scene is shockingly similar to End of Evangelion?  That is, it already says "there's a giant streak of blood across the lunar landscape"....should we then go on to mention "this seems similar to the finale of End of Evangelion?  --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 03:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. This would be original research. We all know the main theory that's been circulating about this movie, but as long as it is not substanciated by anything concrete, we won't write the movie's plot in the light of this theory. We just describe things as they are and we don't draw subjective parallels. If the theory is proven right in the following movies, then we'll probably note it. But currently there's nothing more than that, so let's not anticipate on future developments. Our job is not to imply there could be connections while we don't know anything yet, just to describe what happens. Noticing similarities is already expressing a personal point of view, considering we don't even know what are Anno's intentions, so assuming things like that is going a bit too far. Folken de Fanel (talk) 11:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Should we mention the similarity to the final scene of End of Evangelion?

message: Talk:Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone/Summary length (archive)
I am archiving this discussion as it was getting off-topic.  Focusing on being constructive:  would anyone else like to write a compromise version?  I liked the version that Hellbus made, and thought it struck a good balance.  --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 00:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary length

message: Shouldn't the article mention how much was changed?  They eliminated some funny bits, totally changing things.  Listing every single thing changed might be rather lengthy, but perhaps a few examples, or at least a note that is different.  I've only watched the first minutes of it, and notice several things already. Dream Focus (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, this is absolutely impossible.  We tried that once before, with the Episode Guide for the regular series, which I wrote up and tried to defend:  Wikipedia's admins and rules just won't allow it; "Original Research" and all that.  At most we can explain the basic changes, but we already did as much as we could.  --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 00:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not list all the changes? 

message: Having seen the entire film, I've noticed how much has been edited out, and how little has been added in.  The end result is that the film is 23 minutes shorter than the 6 original episodes.  I believe that is a relevant fact.  Alas, my edit was undone.  Lets discuss it here please.  Wouldn't someone who has seen the series before, want to know this bit of information? Dream Focus (talk) 08:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.  Well, they've been yelling at us for adding in trivia sections, so it won't get in based on that.  But more importantly:  we shouldn't compare "Rebuild of Eva 1, the adaptation-of-the- story - of the first 6 episodes" to "a recap-movie which consists-of-the-first-six-original-series-episodes-literally-edited-together-into-one-film".  Conceptually these are two separate things.  Nor does it really, accurately reflect how much was cut out or put in:  anime TV episodes typically involve a lot of "padding"; you know, wasting time on purpose by looking at a non-moving landscape as "filler" to reach the full episode length.  However, for a condensed adaptation movie, the goal is to make it move as FAST as possible and include as much as possible; thus if you notice, lots of scenes which in the original series were time-wasters (lots of shots of Shinji wandering around in episode 4) were simply cut out because they aren't ultimately necessary in a full film.  Further....Rebuild 2 is going to "adapt" episodes 8 through 19 (it seems) and throw out alot or condense it.  It just happens, by lucky accident, that the first 6 episodes form a single storyarc with something of a "stopping point".  Thus, it fits the movie-length-format well, but that's just coincidence:  you shouldn't be comparing the new Rebuild of Eva 1 movie adaptation, to "the first six episodes aired back to back".  Thus, it is utterly irrelevant that "Rebuild 1" is 20 minutes shorter, or even an hour shorter, than the equivalent part of the original series on which it is based.  --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 01:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  23 minutes shorter than the 6 episodes it is based on 

message: shouldnt you guys add a picture of the DVD instead of the postHaseo445 (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture 

message: The article lists the Santa Barbara International Film Festival as the North American premiere, but I remember it being shown at Seattle International Film Festival at two separate screenings. http://www.siff.net/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=27586 97.113.121.122 (talk) 15:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well...I consider "premiere" to be when it actually runs "in theaters", but realistically its not getting a theatrical release; and is in fact, just being shown piecemeal at various conventions.  so....yeah....--Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 00:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? It got an Australian release, albeit only for about one screening. 124.188.145.99 (talk) 10:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: North American / US Premiere

message: I don't know if this is going to get a limited theatrical run like a Ghibli film; some have suggested it, and it would be something, but unlikely.
However, fan reports from the AFI Dallas premiere of Rebuild of Eva 1.0 said that the FUNimation representatives did indeed say that they are loosely aiming for a "November 2009" release date for Rebuild of Eva 1.0.--Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: North American DVD release

message: The information in the link has to be added to the article but I don't have time editing it in. It would be very much appreciated if someone took the time to do it. Thanks.
Eva:1.0 in N. American Theaters, Eva:1.01 on DVD in Fall
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thread_title:  North American 1.11 Blu-Ray in Spring 

message: Although Box Office Mojo is undoubtedly the go-to site for these numbers, it seems inappropriate to put the number in the right side box here (I'm sure I'm not using proper Wiki terminology).  It apparently only references the USA and Turkish box office grosses.  The second film grossed over $40 million according to BOM, and its records for that one are more complete.  Saying this one grossed $200,000 is clearly incorrect and makes it appear to be a massive flop - which, if it were, would likely have led to the cancellation of the next 3 films in the series.  Of course, the article itself gives the Japanese box office figure as something like $18 million.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.26.178.215 (talk) 15:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box Office 

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message: The primary questions most anyone who'd look this up would have is: How does 1.0 relate to NGE, and what the heck is 1.1? Neither can be usefully extracted from this article. Worst of all, if discussion above is an indication, such information is actively pushed against being included. Y'all would be better of deleting this in the first place. Xenofur (talk) 18:22, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article is a failure