Talk:King Louie

message: Contrary to the Trivia section I just deleted from this article, the alligator named King Louie at the Louisville Zoo is not named for the character King Louie. The alligator is name for King Louis XVI of France. So says the page about him at the Louisville Zoo website.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenllama (talk • contribs) 17:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alligator at Louisville Zoo

message: I deleted the plot summary tag.  Despite edit description for the removal of the tag, not even two full para.s are dedicated to plot summary.  To me, plot summary here means character description from within the work.  Para.s are as follows:
# The largest, is about the creative process in the real world that lead to the inclusion of the character.  The first sentence could be considered plot summary, but really, it's a one sentence description that orients the reader.
# Some characrer description, but even that is more outside analysis, "classic misunderstood villian" is literary commentary.  That aside, the middle of the para. is about realworld events, a lawsuit, that prevented the character's inclusion in later works.
# Is a description character in the live action movie.  It is a contrast with the animated film of three sentences, one of which basically says he appeared in the work.
Remaining para.s are very short, 1-2 para.s each.  One is a reference to the character made in a non-Disney work.  The next is another real life explanation for why a King Larry character was used instead of Louie (law suit again).  The last is the one sentence section noting the character is used as an example of racial stereotyping in the real world.
In short, the tag was inappropriate given review of the article.  It's placement appears to have been a kneejerk reaction.  Not entirely hard to understand, given a cleanup tag is highly appropriate and will be added.  The references/sources tag is VERY appropriate as there is some very good info on the creation process and after, but all unsourced.  Lead is minor in the view of the overall cleanup and structure required, but true as well.  IMHO (talk) 06:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm...you could have just removed the tag without the long explanation. It was added last month when the article was almost entirely plot. :P-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 07:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, didn't see the response before.  I checked the version at the time the tag was added.  The content is very much the same then as now, though the current version has been restructured.  IMHO (talk) 21:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Summary tag inappropriate 

message: From Mouse to Mermaid I was reading a bit further along the preview link to see if there was any acknowledgement along the lines of the one from the Gospel According to Disney.  It looks like there may be, but the preview option made it difficult to check.  I DID notice that there were two names on top that did not match the reference in this article.  A little further checking gave the following title and authors for that section of the book
:Title: The Movie You See The Movie You Don't How  Disney Do's That Old Time Derision
:Authors: Susan Miller and Greg Rhode
I'm assuming that the reference is giving editors' names and that this is an essay/article within the book, but don't have a hard copy to check.  Also, I'm not quite as familiar with citation format if it is the case.  We may want to check the other references as well.  IMHO (talk) 08:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: I removed the section about the racial claims because it is unlikely and, like the claims about Sebastian from The Little Mermaid and the villains of The Lion King, it isn't realistic enough to be mentioned in the article. Like a friend of mine once said: "If you think King Louie is a racist character, then you're either brain-dead stupid or you're actually trying to find racism in films". 68.164.80.221 (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter how realistic the racism allegation is. It has been widely discussed in reliable sources, such as those cited in the article, so should be mentioned in the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 00:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Even with valid sources the grammar, syntax, etc., of this article need a major overhaul. PurpleChez (talk) 01:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed a non-sourced claim that the mannerisms of the character were based purely on the Italian-American voice actor.  (The same comment was previously deleted for the same reason.)  The comment could be fine if sourced.  It seems clear to me that the role was deliberately imitating and referencing Louis Armstrong, who is African-American and a vastly better-known figure than Louis Prima.  I would think that the Louis Armstrong connection should be mentioned, though it could also include a sourced claim that Armstrong was not being referenced. John Kim (talk) 18:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Some references on the Louis Armstrong connection: http://theaporetic.com/?p=3186, http://books.google.com/books?id=YdY-ouXctDsC&pg=PA181&dq=%22King+Louie%22+Louis+Armstrong&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wV31UfW-BKStiAKUnoHwCw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22King%20Louie%22%20Louis%20Armstrong&f=false and an interview on the Louis Prima connection http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8HrpOu1FA  — Preceding unsigned comment added by John.h.kim (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Bless your heart.PurpleChez (talk) 17:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racism 

message: I noticed that there is nothing about this character's TaleSpin incarnation. I should think that it should at least be mentioned.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.133.181.172 (talk) 18:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  TaleSpin 

message: Does anyone happen to know what kind of animal King Louie is supposed to be? The article clearly states that he is an orangutan. However, he doesn't possess any of the distinctive physical characteristics of a male orangutan. (Also, there are no orangutans in India and never have been.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.17.89 (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Type of animal