Talk:Lomaloma

message: I have adjusted some and kept the additions around Ma'afu that User talk:Trabeta added, but we must be mindful that The Rasau and the Ravunisa are key also in Lomalomas history and while Ma'fu was a great man there are issues that he cut ties with tonga and also many Fijian chiefs did not fully accept him as a chief he was Tui Lau for a time but not head of Tovata, the head of the Tovata confederacy was always the Tui Cakau.
Please lets keep the history in perspective, Lomaloma today has changed two titles have remained vacant for long periods that of the Turaga na Rasau and the Turaga na Ravunisa and that maybe has an effect in the power shift and disputes today but please do not doubt the Mana and history behind these titles and their relative influences on Lomalomas history and their past histories in Fiji.
I will be returning to My Village Lomaloma and visiting my uncles house in Lomaloma and visiting my Grandmothers house in Sawana soon enough User Trabeta and I would like to sit down in the spirit of peace and unity void of Ego around the Tanoa and have an educated discussion around our contributions, especially on Vanuabalavu, lomaloma and Sawana, I will will bring 1kg pounded Waka and I'll Lose the Yaqona, until then lets remain balanced and fair to our beloved Vanua and its varied histories and current predicaments. Vinaka Saka
User:Maikeli
===Some observations from my research===
Ma'afu when referenced should be addressed as Tui Lau as that was his title until he died in 1881. All history books that I have researched confirmed this to be the case and he did not abdicate his position but reverted all his claims back to the Tui Nayau when he passed away. He did not nominate the successor of Tui Nayau as he was supposed to - ref Mara, Pacific Way papers. The Vunivalu of Bau had to perform this task.
In my research - I will correct any errors that I see as incorrectly written about his ventures and existence in Fiji.
Whilst I agree the Rasau, Ravunisa, Tui Naturuku and other Tui's of villages do exist and what they mean culturally to their people - History remains that Ma'afu was the Tui Lau and Chiefdom of the Lau Confederacy as well as the Head of the Tovata.
History also point to the fact that Tovata did not exist until Ma'afu set it up - the government of North Eastern Fiji. Neither of the heads of Lau, Bua or Macuata were subservient to Tui Cakau at any time from the documents that I read - though at times he fought these provinces but I can not see any record where he was decisive - in fact most of his successes was using the support of the early Tongans and Cakobau. The records are correct that Ma'afu  was installed as Head of the Tovata for life. There is a plaque at his home in Lotoa installed there by Ratu Mara to commemorate this fact. While Tui Cakau is the current head of the Tovata - this head is by selection - not hereditary ... though today people have incorrectly assumed that the Tui Cakau is the automatic head of the Tovata. 
Whilst it is fair to say that there were chiefs in Fiji who were not supportive of Ma'afu - the fact remains that he was:
* He was a signatory to the Cession - he could not have been invited if he was not a person of importance and revered in Fiji
* Installed as Tui Lau and was the first Roko Tui Lau after Deed of Cession
* He was the lawful owner of Vanuabalavu and associated islands and confirmed in the Council of Chiefs meeting at Mualevu 
* The 3 heads of Yavusa in Nakoro surrended to him as referenced in work by AC Reid. They reported to him until his death when the 3 then reported to the Tui Nayau as recorded in their respective TRY
* He existed and made Lomaloma what it is with the allocation of land and where people live in the greater Lomaloma settlement
* He allocated land to all people to work
He was not sub servient or number 3 to anybody in Lomaloma or Vanuabalavu for that matter - unpopular he may be with the Colonialist post Deed of Cession - he participated and was the first Roko Tui Lau.
It should also be noted that there were alot of unpopular Chiefs in Fiji at the time - eg Cakobau was so unpopular that he was engaged in warfare all his life. The people of Rewa could not stand him and hence the battle of Kaba that brought the Rewans under his control only at the support of the Tongans.
These views are not driven by EGO, not so - they are driven by someone who wants history to be told as it was - not rewritten and swayed to favour some tribe when clearly history and writings to do support it.
Trabeta (talk) 08:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The added history about Ma'afu and Lomaloma

message: Ma'afu when referenced should be addressed as Tui Lau as that was his title until he died in 1881. All history books that I have researched confirmed this to be the case and he did not abdicate his position but reverted all his claims back to the Tui Nayau when he passed away. He did not nominate the successor of Tui Nayau as he was supposed to - ref Mara, Pacific Way papers. The Vunivalu of Bau had to perform this task.
In my research - I will correct any errors that I see as incorrectly written about his ventures and existence in Fiji.
Whilst I agree the Rasau, Ravunisa, Tui Naturuku and other Tui's of villages do exist and what they mean culturally to their people - History remains that Ma'afu was the Tui Lau and Chiefdom of the Lau Confederacy as well as the Head of the Tovata.
History also point to the fact that Tovata did not exist until Ma'afu set it up - the government of North Eastern Fiji. Neither of the heads of Lau, Bua or Macuata were subservient to Tui Cakau at any time from the documents that I read - though at times he fought these provinces but I can not see any record where he was decisive - in fact most of his successes was using the support of the early Tongans and Cakobau. The records are correct that Ma'afu  was installed as Head of the Tovata for life. There is a plaque at his home in Lotoa installed there by Ratu Mara to commemorate this fact. While Tui Cakau is the current head of the Tovata - this head is by selection - not hereditary ... though today people have incorrectly assumed that the Tui Cakau is the automatic head of the Tovata. 
Whilst it is fair to say that there were chiefs in Fiji who were not supportive of Ma'afu - the fact remains that he was:
* He was a signatory to the Cession - he could not have been invited if he was not a person of importance and revered in Fiji
* Installed as Tui Lau and was the first Roko Tui Lau after Deed of Cession
* He was the lawful owner of Vanuabalavu and associated islands and confirmed in the Council of Chiefs meeting at Mualevu 
* The 3 heads of Yavusa in Nakoro surrended to him as referenced in work by AC Reid. They reported to him until his death when the 3 then reported to the Tui Nayau as recorded in their respective TRY
* He existed and made Lomaloma what it is with the allocation of land and where people live in the greater Lomaloma settlement
* He allocated land to all people to work
He was not sub servient or number 3 to anybody in Lomaloma or Vanuabalavu for that matter - unpopular he may be with the Colonialist post Deed of Cession - he participated and was the first Roko Tui Lau.
It should also be noted that there were alot of unpopular Chiefs in Fiji at the time - eg Cakobau was so unpopular that he was engaged in warfare all his life. The people of Rewa could not stand him and hence the battle of Kaba that brought the Rewans under his control only at the support of the Tongans.
These views are not driven by EGO, not so - they are driven by someone who wants history to be told as it was - not rewritten and swayed to favour some tribe when clearly history and writings to do support it.
Trabeta (talk) 08:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Some observations from my research

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