Talk:Football Manager 2008

message: Could we please alter the opening paragraph.  I can see that this was relevant pre release (as it referes to demos etc), and before the patches were brought out but i can't help but feel that now the game is fully realease a new intro may be appropriate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.138.57 (talk) 12:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's pretty much the exact press release, so it's not copyrighted. But it certainly does need to be re-written, simply for encyclopedic and POV reasons. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 16:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: http://fm08.footballmanager.net/en/article/101/1583.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by George bennett (talk • contribs).
:Yes, I know. Like I say, it's a press release. It's been recreated all over the net. Look here, for example:  (for the original press release),     .
:Press releases are designed to be recreated elsewhere, it is what developers and publishers want, because they are generally very positive. Hence why, if possible, we need to rewrite that section. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 16:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted the copyright-infringing material as per WP:CSD G12. That's meant all the intervening edits have been removed - apologies for removing good-faith contributions but copyvios cannot be tolerated here. Qwghlm 15:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, I realise about copyvios, but I didn't realise that press releases generally came under that banner. Still, I have no real objection, as the article was in pretty poor shape with that there anyway (not exactly NPOV). --Dreaded Walrus  t c 15:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  See here for where this article has come from 

message: Is the release date the same worldwide or is it different from country to country?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Honeymonstar (talk • contribs) 09:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. I've added it to the article. :) --Dreaded Walrus  t c 15:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date?? 

message: Play.com are releasing FM 2008 on 19/10/2007 here.
My question is:
can this be used as the official release date?
Magnus 10:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, SI have explicitly stated on the forums, when asked about certain retailers providing release dates, that none of them are official, and are rather just speculation on the part of the retailers (likely comparing it to the release date of Football Manager 2007). As such, we really shouldn't include it in the article. Currently, all SI have said with regards to a release date is "before Christmas". --Dreaded Walrus  t c 15:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, and for examples, see here, in chronological order:    --Dreaded Walrus  t c 15:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could Play.com get sued for releasing before official release date. I know there was controversy with the Harry Potter books when small shops allowed sale before the national release. Magnus 08:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlikely to get sued as it actually is the official release date now. Play.com might've been onto something... Meszudo 15:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  official? 

message: Will there be a demo? If so, when?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GPattle (talk • contribs) 18:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There will be a demo, but the developers haven't specified a time yet, other than it will be when the code is finished, i.e. when it is ready to go gold. When the code is finished, they will then work on a demo version, and release it. We don't have a specific time yet given. :) --Dreaded Walrus  t c 19:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demo 

message: Why is there no player photos or logos from the English Premier Legue in the game?
Is it a licencing issue?
I think there should be some mention of it as there is mention of the German and Japanese.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.75.178 (talk) 13:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premeir League 

message: a beta patch is released, is this good info for the article? Folo4 07:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... I'd personally say we wait until the proper patch is released, and then mention it, that way we can link to the changelist and stuff, as one doesn't really exist online for the beta version. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 08:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Indeed. That was added here, and is not only unencyclopedic, but incorrect at parts, too (Since when does alpha come after beta in the development cycle?). I would have a go at rewording it, but I wouldn't say information on a beta patch should really be included. The proper patch should definitely be mentioned, however. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 04:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  patch 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fm08boxart.jpg

message: I have removed "Flag of Wankers" where the Austrian flag is meant to be. ANy chance this user can be banned? Random Jack (talk) 16:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More Vandalism

message: The articles states that xp/vista is required but probably 2000 is supported too, given that those three operative systems share the same architecture but i'm not sure though, just asking for confirmation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.37.67.207 (talk) 11:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirements 

message: Is this wiki-page supposed to show up with a huge gap between paragraphs 2 and 3, spanning most of the infobox? 121.208.21.18 (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  White space in IE 

message: How exactly does removing a link to a regularly updated directory of fansites in favour of linking to two specific fansites in favour of the 100+ other fansites out there undoing spam? The directory is a better resource for users than favouring specific sites, if anything having those two specific sites there is spam. Did you even look at the site linked to or the links already in place and compare their worth?
I've put it back now, you can respond using this discussion rather than blindly acting as previous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.193.129 (talk • contribs) 
:My reasoning has not changed since you last made these edits in August. See the discussion here (which you never did respond to) for why it is spam. As it happens, I don't care to have any of the unofficial links there currently, so per WP:EL, I will remove them. Dreaded Walrus  t c 22:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

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