Talk:Rota (poem)

message: In the times of communist Polish People's Republic there existed some highly unofficial versions. The original was being changed to reflect the fact that the Soviet Union rather than Germany was the enemy of the Polish nation. One of the version, from my memory, is below (changed words in bold):
Rota
Polish text:                     	English translation:
Nie rzucim ziemi, skąd nasz ród. 	We'll not abandon the land of our folk.
Nie damy pogrześć mowy.          	We'll not let our language be buried.
Polski my naród, polski lud,     	We're the Polish nation, the Polish people,
Królewski szczep Piastowy.       	Royal tribe of the Piasts.
Nie damy, by nas zgnębił wróg.   	We'll not let the foe hold us down.
                                 	
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
                                 	
Do krwi ostatniej kropli z żył   	To the last drop of blood in our veins
Bronić  bedziemy ducha,          	We'll defend our spirit
Aż się rozpadnie w proch i w pył 	Until into dust
Sowiecka zawierucha.             	Falls the Soviet storm.
Twierdzą nam będzie każdy próg.  	Every doorsill will be our fortress.
                                 	
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
                                 	
Nie będzie Ruski pluł nam w twarz	The Russian will not spit in our face
Ni dzieci nam poganił,           	Nor make our children pagan,
Orężny wstanie hufiec nasz,      	Our host will rise up in arms,
Duch będzie nam hetmanił.        	Our spirit will lead the way.
Pójdziem, gdy zabrzmi złoty róg. 	We'll go forth when sounds the golden horn.
                                 	
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!             	So help us God!
I need help translating the rest of the final stanza
:A similar altered version may be found here. Double sharp (talk) 09:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial version existing during the communist People's Republic of Poland 

message: *http://info-poland.icm.edu.pl/web/arts_culture/music/hymns/rota/Oath.html by Peter K. Gessner
*https://polishmusic.usc.edu/research/national-anthems/rota-the-oath/ by Maja Trochimczyk Xx236 (talk) 08:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: might be relevant, but I can't access it. PS. Found it , but it only says Rota has become a symbolic piece. He also notes that such works can have different meanings for different groups. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:07, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: (ec) You can get it here. Just a passing mention (next to Adama Asnyka „Miejcie nadziejęnie tę lichą marną”) AFAICT.Icewhiz (talk) 10:14, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone can get this article? 

message: I can't find any source for when did Rota became the anthem of those political parties. It's a very popular song, so listing instances it is sang at is pointless (it is likely sang every day in Poland somewhere), but listing some official instances it sang at, organizations it is affiliated with, etc. seems more reasonable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:14, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As pointed out by Buchowski this anti-German song is the "official anthem of the Polish Peasant Party". It is also, per Buchowski (who mentions this prior to PSL) used in various internet website and "sung as an opening act at various ceremonies held by self-acclaimed 'patriotic' organizations (.e.g Młodzież Wszechpolska, or, All-Polish-Youth) - page 25. Buchowski on page 42 -  - sees Rota as type of Blood and Soil narrative. For some odd reason this source, published by John Benjamins Publishing Company, is being removed from the article. Icewhiz (talk) 04:56, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps it's the wording/undue issue. If  you reword the removed content to avoid the impression that it is used only by nationalists, I think it will be fine. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anthem of PSL and LPR