Talk:List of communist parties

message: I think we need to split these into official communist parties and those that are 'unoffical' such as the revolutionary communists etc. Of course what constitutes offical post 1991 is an interesting point.
We then need to think about what constitutes a communist party - is it anything with communist in its name? Some of the 57 varieties of leftist have communist in their name and some don't. Should there be a separate list of trotskyist parties? Should reformed communists like the Party of Democratic Socialism be in here? 
As for Maoists, what I've said in the intro is that "parties on this list are mostly those that were aligned with either Moscow or Beijing during the Cold War and their offshoots". I think a seperate list for Trotskyist parties would make more sense given their number (there is a list of international Trotskyist movements already, that may be sufficient)AndyL 17:29, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  split 

message: Since the Progressive Party of the Working People in Cyprus has been added, which rules in coalition as well as the Moldovan Communists, who rule through their victory in Democratic elections, I thought it would be fair to add all Communist Parties in ruling coalition governments. Similarly, there are many countries whose ruling Party is described as Marxist/Communist on their Wikipedia pages but which are not listed here, namely SWAPO, PFDJ and ZANU-PF and CPP so I also thought it would be appropriate to add them. The coalition Communist Parties I have noticed have all been posted, they all are currently in the ruling coalition of these governments, as is the AKEL in Cyprus.
: SWAPO, PFDJ, and ZANU-PF are not, and probably were never (the PFDJ may have been at one point), communist parties. The CPP (I assume you are referring to Ghana's Convention People's Party) also was not a communist party. All four groups used elements of Marxist thought and rhetoric, but this is not the same as Marxism-Leninism or communism. —Sesel 01:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Coalition Communists

message: Why are the communist parties not listed there from these areas, present or past? That-Vela-Fella 13:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkmenistan & Uzbekistan 

message: What about the parties that were once Marxist-Leninist (MPLA, FRELIMO and ZANU-PF) but have since backed away from these ideologies in favour of others. Should they be included? Also is the Korean Worker's Party even officially "communist" any more?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.32.173 (talk) 01:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: EX-Communist parties

message: The current ruling party in Mozambique is Marxist-Leninist, it says on Mozambique's page. Should Mozambique be added?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.133.3 (talk) 07:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already listed as it was M-L, under List_of_communist_parties#Formerly_ruling. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozambique 

message: I think a minimum criteria for being listed as being in government must be having members of the national cabinet. For example, PCV in Venezuela is part of the broader Chavista movement, but doesn't not have government presence at the moment. --Soman (talk) 19:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is a good point. The Communist Party of Belarus also supports their country's president, but is not part of any kind of formal coalition government. The "Kurdistan" listed in this article is not a separate country, but a region of Iraq. Finally, the People's Progressive Party (Guyana) is not even a communist party, yet it is listed! Cmrdm (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: True on the above mentioned after looking into it myself. The PCV & the CPB are not directly involved in the governing aspect of the Venezuelan or Belrussian nations respectively (just supportive) and should be removed. The Kurdistan one is ok, as it is part of the Alliance that is within the government of Iraq. Also the PPP of Guyana should be removed as the reason said already. That-Vela-Fella (talk) 09:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think if we are going to include regional governments, then that should be a separate list. There are several Indian provinces that could be included as well. Cmrdm (talk) 22:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The People's Progressive Party of Guyana includes Marxism-Leninism in their party programme. So, I would assume it would count as a Communist Party, at least de-facto, if not in reality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.100.27 (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The PPPG does not consider itself to be a communist party, which is why it does not belong on this list. Read this introduction from the party's website: About PPP/Civic. Cmrdm (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  in government? 

message: There is an error about Brazilian Communist Party and PPS (Socialist People's Party). BCP didnt became SPP, some people of BCP left it and created SPP but Brazilian Communist Party still exists they only lose their number but they legacy is recognized by Electoral Justice.
Lobei (talk) 20:01, 21 Mar 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error 

message: Why is not Congolese Party of Labour at the lists? It was a ruling marxist-leninist party in Republic of Congo until 1990, but today it is a socialist party working in opposition. --31.147.30.155 (talk) 21:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Congolese party of labour added to the List of formerly ruling parties. --Plamen (talk) 13:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Congolese Party of Labour is not in the opposition, it is currently the ruling party and has been so since the Republic of the Congo Civil War in 1997. Charles Essie (talk) 19:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Congolese Party of Labour]] 

message: It says in the lead section that Trotskyist parties are not included in the listing, but why is that? Trotskyists are communists too, and they have communist parties so they should be included. Charles Essie (talk) 19:39, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the definition of a Communist Party is not just a party whose members are communists. There is a distinct meaning, in terms of historical legacy, political culture and organizational structure. The Trotskyists have other forms of political organizations, and thus place themselves outside the scope of the listing. --Soman (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case this article should be renamed "List of communist organizations," because there is no excuse for the Trotskyists not to be included. Charles Essie (talk) 03:08, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a listing would be much less useful, and au contraire we should have more clear demarkation to have a listing representing the mainstream of the world communist movement. --Soman (talk) 06:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think not all Trotskyist parties are communist parties,some difine itself as democratic socialist party such as almost branches of CWI,but,some should be listed are like Workers' Communist Party (Italy).南天星斗 (talk) 09:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a fair compromise. Charles Essie (talk) 23:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I really agree that Trotskyists should be included in this list. Te og kaker (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Left communist parties should also be on the list. Charles Essie (talk) 00:08, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Many Trotskyist organizations don't label "communist" to themselves. See List of Trotskyist organizations by country and List of Left communist organizations by country. AsharaDayne (talk) 10:41, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that Trotskyist parties should be excluded because the list is long enough and there are many Trotskyist parties, to many to put on the same list as all other communist parties. I also don't think Juceist parties should be included because they aren't really Comunists. I don't think that Anarho-Communists and Left Communists should be excluded because neither of those probems are present with last two group. Groups such as the Guyanese People's Progressive Party that are oficialy communist but actually aren't should either be excluded or have some sort of citation showing their not really communist  TURTLOS (talk) 06:01, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trotskyist organizations 

message: Is Movement of Popular Participation in Uruguay belong to communist party？ 南天星斗 (talk) 15:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movement of Popular Participation 

message: I find this list somewhat chaotic. It does not seem to consist a logical system. Not every organization listed is actually a party (such as some "leagues" or "unions"), so a change of lemma might be advisable. Also it may be useful to add a sorting by ideological tendencies and international affiliations by inserting the information into a sortable table. --Partisan1917 20:05, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is not necessary for the time being, because the list is still incomplete now. 南天星斗 (talk) 03:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaotic list 

message: Does these parties still exist, include CP of Estonia, CP of Latvia and CP of Lithuania? 南天星斗 (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: They are illegal since August coup. In Latvia an ersatz organization named Socialist Party of Latvia exists with MPs and with an orthodox Marxist-Leninist ideology. As far as I know, no Communist party (I mean, not even one with a dozen members) exists in Lithuania or Estonia.Lokalkosmopolit (talk) 15:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  CPs of The Baltic states 

message: Perhaps a map, such as one in the Pirate Parties International article, showing where a communist party is registered, won elected posts, etc., would be a nice addition to this article. --94.253.204.88 (talk) 07:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map proposal 

message: The article title says "communist", the article text says "Communist party" but it also says "communist Third International". I think most instanced of "Communist" should be changed to "communist" when they don't refer to a particular political party. I know my communist comrades maintain that "Communist" must refer to a specific vanguard organization and "communist" must refer to our general political theory. The article also says "Left communist", shouldn't this be changed to "left communist"? It also says "Modern (Non ruling)" but later "Defunct (non-ruling)" shouldn't we change "Non ruling" to "non-ruling"? It also refers to the Soviet CP in the lead while linking to Soviet Union, and also refers to the Chinese CP without linking anywhere. So, it looks like there is potential for improvement here. I'll make some changes, if you disagree just discuss ok? Χρυσάνθη Λυκούση (talk) 02:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  capitalization of Communist or communist 

message: The party provided for North Cyprus is actually a social democratic party in the Republic of Cyprus. As far as i know it has no participation in politics in the north. There is a communist party in the North but im 100% sure its not EDEK. Lefterisg9 (talk) 19:55, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  North Cyprus 

message: I've noticed that User:南天星斗 appears to be engaging in edit-warring behavior, removing and reclassifying certain parties in the list and persistently undoing other editors' reversions. In the interest of assuming good faith, following the three-revert rule and attempting to achieve consensus on this issue I'd like to invite them to justify their recent edits here and discuss the issues they attempted to boldly address regarding the inclusion or classification of certain parties in the list. Anarkinsey (talk) 16:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean DPRK, see above please.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 南天星斗 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute over inclusion/classification of certain parties 

message: The topic (discussed already here) may be a bit controversial, because there's no clear statement what communism is and some groups like anarcho-communism, juche or even social-democracy have a lot in common and belong to wide family of communist and far left movement. Because of that it should be at least mentionned here with corresponding links.
With the WPK the situation is a bit more complicated, because of unclear statements of North Korean government over it. For example NK economy has more in common with communism than Chinese or Vietnamese. On the other hand Juche is often shown as a separate movement (to make the personality cult stronger), even if it is just a specific modification of marxism-leninism-stalinism-maoism. For majority it is still communist.
Saying that it's not communist but rather far-right feudal state is fake though. It depends on what perspective you have. For Trocki all communist states became nationalist and he didn't accepted them as communist. For some China is not communist in reality because of its quasi-capitalist economy and weak social support. What's more Marks and Engels already in their manifesto declared that there's only tiny difference between nationalism and communism. Racial and national policies were applied at some level in nearly every communist country. For example in Romania, Poland, Soviet Union, China (Tibet or Uyghur areas), Czechoslovakia, GDR.
The changes in NK's constitution and WPK's statute are recent, and many « demonisation » arguments are in this context just illusoric.
Bests
Ventic (talk) 14:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we need a compromise.AsharaDayne (talk) 15:26, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't we just put NK and the WPK under their own subtitle in a similar way that have on the communist state Wikipedia page  TURTLOS (talk) 21:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  WPK and communism 

message: In what regard do the communist parties of Israel, Russia and Palestine count as ruling parties, the links to the ruling coalition beside each of these parties brings up the national Legislatures of the nations. Also i think that the People's Victory Party in Uruguay should be added next to the communist party of Uruguay under (Communist parties as ruling parties or part of ruling coalition in multi-party states), altough it is aligned to some anarchist movements and may have been anarcho-communist in the past it isn't technically anarchist anymore and thus should be added.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TURTLOS (talk • contribs) 10:51, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear infromation 

message: Strollad Komunour Honduras https://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strollad_Komunour_Honduras Communist Party of Honduras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Honduras Partido Comunista de Honduras https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Comunista_de_Honduras حزب کمونیست هندوراس https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8_%DA%A9%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA_%D9%87%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3 ჰონდურასის კომუნისტური პარტია https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%83%B0%E1%83%9D%E1%83%9C%E1%83%93%E1%83%A3%E1%83%A0%E1%83%90%E1%83%A1%E1%83%98%E1%83%A1_%E1%83%99%E1%83%9D%E1%83%9B%E1%83%A3%E1%83%9C%E1%83%98%E1%83%A1%E1%83%A2%E1%83%A3%E1%83%A0%E1%83%98_%E1%83%9E%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%A2%E1%83%98%E1%83%90 Partito Comunista dell'Honduras https://it.wikipedia.org /wiki/Partito_Comunista_dell'Honduras Komunistyczna Partia Hondurasu https://pl.wikipedia.org /wiki/Komunistyczna_Partia_Hondurasu Коммунистическая партия Гондураса https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%83 %D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0 ہونڈیورس کی کمیونسٹ پارٹی https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DB%81%D9%88%D9%86%DA%88%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B3_%DA%A9%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86%D8%B3%D9%B9_%D9%BE%D8%A7 %D8%B1%D9%B9%DB%8C 洪都拉斯共产党 https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B4%AA%E9%83%BD%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AF%E5%85%B1%E4%BA%A7%E5%85%9A  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.16.152.238 (talk) 05:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strollad Komunour [[Honduras]] 

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message: What is the difference between two these groups? I think they must be merged each other. JackHoang (talk) 11:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: That offers no logical consistency. Either the Trotskyist and left communist parties should be included or the anarcho-communist and Juche parties should be excluded and exported, while the article is renamed to "List of Marxist-Leninist parties". 87.70.155.185 (talk) 03:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: There was a decision to merge the List of left communist organizations by country with this article; but, if trotskists are not included in this list, even less sense makes to include the left communists, who, if anything, are even more distant from the mainstream communism.--MiguelMadeira (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left Communists 

message: i've noted the miss of many parties also parties that ruled in one party state like the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.239.45 (talk) 17:23, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many parties miss 

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message: it holds about 10 seats and is very successful so the list is wrong 2600:1702:9F0:D140:4166:F132:5532:5970 (talk) 08:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  japanese communist party 

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message: During much time, Trotskysist parties were not supposed to be included in that list; that observation, meanwhile, was removed from the article, and now there are some Trotskyist parties included (but not the vast majority of them); what should be the rule? To include Trotskyist or not? In a way or another, the article need some changes (or including all Trotskyists, or removing the few Trotskyist parties mentioned). MiguelMadeira (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trotskyists are supposed to be included or not? 

message: The Greek Communist Party (KKE) is not listed under 'Opposition Parties in multi-party states' despite still being represented in the Greek parliament. It is listed under 'Formerly ruling,' but there the focus is on when they ruled during the Greek Civil War and were overthrown. 
Of the multiple parties that are listed under 'Formerly ruling,' the KKE is, as far as I can tell, the only existing party that is still openly communist and has parliamentary representation. So shouldn't it also be listed under 'Opposition Parties in multi-party states' with its current representation? That would give a better overview. ProfBigmouth (talk) 13:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't the Greek Communist Party also be listed as an opposition party?