Talk:Romana (Doctor Who)

message: Guys 
About the regeneration business - please state the story that was given as the source of information for the bit just removed. If it is some untelevised story or any medium other than the TV series and TV movie, then it should , in my firm view, be discounted.
:Well, it's a well-established bit of fan speculation (based on [some rather large extrapolations from] the regen scene in Destiny and also the end of The War Games) but you were probably right to delete it.  (Indeed, the fact that Romana's regeneration scene admits of such possibilities is one reason why a lot of people don't like it). --Bth
:: it's true that at the end of Troughton, the Time Lords (though I don't think named as such) offer him a choice of bodies, which he refuses, and then choose Pertwee for him. However, they say "your appearance has changed before, it can change again" -- always seemed to me to imply that regeneration is not something innate. Because the TL mythos wasn't established then, the whole Troughton regeneration is maybe up for retconning, if anyone really cares that much. -- Tarquin
::Tarquin watch Episode 10 of The War Games again - they are definately identified as Time Lords - as for "your appearance has changed before, it can change again" - it is just another way of describing the regeneration process - and i hardly think that all Time Lord regenerations would be as random as the Doctor's - specially on Gallifrey itself.
: whoa! steady on there! I may remember this sort of stuff (inaccurately, as you can see), but I don't actually have any of them on tape! The last episode of DW I watched was the final Sylvester McCoy one. Yes, "your appearance has changed before, it can change again" does describe regen, but it implies that on this occasion they are forcing it. That's if I remember the line correctly. -- Tarquin
::If the Time Lords can chose the next incarnation's appearance when they force a regeneration they they may be able to do the same when its voluntary - but all the Doctor's regenerations (except for his second) have been where there has been no time for all that malarky - just survival.
In the 2005 Season 27, they've started a plot thread saying that "The War" (as yet undescribed in any detail) turned Gallifrey into a burned-out husk and that The Doctor is "the last Timelord".  This doesn't seem to be the same thing as the novels' erasing them from history, because other alien characters remember that there were Timelords, implying that they weren't erased from history altogether.  I would assume he's "the last Timelord" because being isolationist all the Timelords live on Gallifrey, and if you destroy Gallifrey you kill them all...but Romana wasn't on Gallifrey.  She's in the parallel dimension E-space.  Does this mean she survived or died?  If she died, they'd have to explain how she got out of E-space and returned to Gallifrey.  This is quite perplexing and should be addressed (of course, the Fall of Gallifrey in The War seems to be a major subplot starting with Season 27).
:Something that we'll just have to wait and see. This level of speculation is really beyond the scope of an encyclopedia article. --khaosworks 22:22, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

message: The page makes claims I've never really heard before about why Tamm left.  I've always heard that she was never going to do more than one season, not this thing about her leaving because the role wasn't going the way she wanted.  Can we cite that or remove it, please?CzechOut 06:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll check my general references when I get back home. If anyone wants to remove it in the interim go ahead. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 06:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tamm's Departure

message: Should we include the "Romana" (AKA Isabella) from the BBC Radio Play,  Dalek I Love You among the incarnations of Romana? Orville Eastland 14:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Romana in "Dalek I Love You"?

message: Since when does Lalla Ward get to have her version of Romana as the page's picture of the character?? We should have a picture of the original Romana as the primary picture, either that or a picture of both of them. But I just don't see why Romana II is now in the character box. --Promus Kaa 07:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Ward did play the character for longer and more often. --Mark H Wilkinson (t, c) 10:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ward as the main picture 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Romana (Shada).png

message: :'The BBC's official Doctor Who website continues to assert that the Doctor is the last of the Time Lords, and has "no details of any other survivors".'
What about the Master?
HexAmp (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Last of the Time Lords"? 

message: Wikipedia does not publish original research or original thought. This includes unpublished facts, arguments, speculation, and ideas; and any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position. McWomble (talk) 06:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current status 

message: i suggest we have main articles for  incarnation like the doctor has i suggest we do the same for the master  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.130.8.135 (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main article for incarnation 

message: The Key to Time Special Edition DVD release, which occurred in March 2009 in Region 1 and in 2007 in the UK, includes several interviews discussing the reasons for Mary Tamm leaving the series. Not a one makes any reference to pregnancy. Since this is the most current and most authoritative source, featuring both first party (Tamm herself) and third party references, I have removed references to pregnancy from this article per WP:BLP. 68.146.62.92 (talk) 00:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tamm pregnancy rumor

message: In "The Ribos Operation", the second time she says her name (more carefully than the first) it sounds to me like "...dvoratnalundar".  Am I alone, or is this a notorious controversy? —Tamfang (talk) 04:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where do "they" write it? —Tamfang (talk) 22:29, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''re'' or ''na''? 

message: 'Big Finish has announced that Mary Tamm will reprise the role of Romana alongside Tom Baker for a second series of original audio dramas (the first series having featured Leela) set during the Key to Time era; the first of these are scheduled for release in late 2012-early 2013.'
As Mary Tamm has just died, this seems unlikely. It should be removed unless anyone can show that these audio dramas are still going to be released as planned. Robofish (talk) 15:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an accurate description of the announcement. We'll need more info before we can add anything else (see Wilfred Mott, more specifically the bit about Attfield). DonQuixote (talk) 15:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have updated the section which was outdated Tamm recorded all seven stories before she died - this fact was well publicized at the time of her death so it not disputed. The first one has just been released with the others officially confirmed for release by Big Finish. An additional Romana 2 story set for release in 2014 has also been confirmed. 70.72.211.35 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed... 

message: Having now read WP:EASTEREGG, I don't agree that "Time Lady" qualifies.  Where is the surprise?  Are Time Ladies not a subset of the Time Lords race? —Tamfang (talk) 07:58, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  easteregg my eye 

message: "Time Lady" was created by DW fan (boys and men) in the same era as such terms "manageress", "woman driver" etc.. It is deprecated in 2023. As such, I have removed it from the Fourth Doctor article. AUSPOLLIE (talk) 22:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant question, meseems, is: was the phrase used in the show? —Tamfang (talk) 22:42, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes. It was. Likely in the original era (I'd have to check) and definitely post 2005. "Dark Water" (40:22) and "The Witch's Familiar" (25:30) use it to specify the Master changing their gender. TardisTybort (talk) 02:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Stories that are written by people who grew up with the Tom Baker stories. Time Lady instead of Time Lord is needlessly gendered in 2023. AUSPOLLIE (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevertheless, how was she described by reliable sources? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:50, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  no need for needlessly gendered term Time Lady as it is not the 1970s anymore