Talk:Peter Ludlow

message: I took the following out:
"In addition to his "formal" education, Ludlow has received extensive philosophical instruction from University of Michigan graduate student, Dustin Locke. He also owes his macking skills, what little there be, to Mr. Locke's teachings."
Mordecai-Mark Mac Low 23:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: Also, who the hell is this guy, and why would I just happen to read about him one day if I choose a random page?
He is an average circle-jerker who thinks SL is SRS BSNS.
Get rid of this waste of space, I beg you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.98.85 (talk) 05:40, 24 December 2007
One of the most 10 influential? Give me a break, no one has ever heard of him outside his local home town. What he does do, on Second Life Herald, is encourage drama, defamation and libel, from right wing fascist rabid mouth foaming bigots, which is the next thing Reporters Sans Frontières should look at. He is one sick puppy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.9.101.99 (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: I have reverted the last 3 edits and will ask an admin to redact edit summaries. As per WP:BLP "A person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty and convicted by a court of law. For people who are relatively unknown, editors must give serious consideration to not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured." 
Please note that it is not sufficient that someone has made allegations in a lawsuit, and quite rightly so, since in most countries anyone can start a law suit and allege anything they like, with or without good evidence. Please read the discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Peter_Ludlow_BLP_Violation before seeking to reinstate controversial information about a living person. Thanks Flat Out let's discuss it 23:31, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please take care 

message: The Rutgers offer mentioned in the article has been called into question: http://articles.philly.com/2014-02-15/news/47339462_1_rutgers-spokesman-rutgers-university-rutgers-offer
188.22.179.124 (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —  (t • e • c) 02:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2014 

message: This information is no longer accurate: "He has just[when?] accepted a position at Rutgers University's Center for Cognitive Science (RUCCS)".
check out http://dailynorthwestern.com/2014/07/02/campus/ludlow-will-not-join-rutgers-faculty/
142.68.151.134 (talk) 09:48, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Removed. Stickee (talk) 23:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2014 

message: Ludlow has resigned from Northwestern University due to the initiation of proceedings to terminate his employment by the University. The article should be edited to reflect these changes of employment, and should also include some sort of controversy section regarding the 2014 sexual harassment allegations.
Suggested text, replacing line 1:
"Peter Ludlow (born January 16, 1957), who also writes under the pseudonym Urizenus Sklar, is a professor of philosophy at Northwestern University." replaced by
"Peter Ludlow (born January 16, 1957), who also writes under the pseudonym Urizenus Sklar, was a professor of philosophy at Northwestern University. Ludlow resigned from his position in November 2015 amid allegations of the sexual harassment of students in March 2014. Ludlow's resignation came about as the allegations were under investigation by a faculty committee in order to begin termination proceedings.http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2015/11/peter-ludlow-resignation-statement.html
Breadwords (talk) 19:43, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request 3 November 2015 

message: 1. Ludlow was found to have sexually harassed two students, not just faced "criticism that he had had a consensual relationship with a female student". I made a reference to an official Nortwestern source that confirms this. 2. There is no reason not to mention this in the intro. 3. The user who deleted this information from the intro because it is "mentioned below" is disingenuous, because he also deleted it from below. This is a clear whitewashing attempt.  Hans Mayer (talk) 20:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The Controversies section isn't quite accurate. Ludlow was accused of sexually assaulting two students, but the Northwestern finding was one of harassment, not assault. 2001:569:7A37:D900:69DD:36A6:1928:D6A5 (talk) 01:25, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: "Northwestern concluded then that Ludlow made 'unwelcome and inappropriate sexual advances'."  That's assault. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: While sexual harassment certainly can rise to the level of assault, it is in no way equivalent to "sexual" assault. I refer interested editors to Wikipedia's own page defining sexual assault.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault ~~ Wiki100808 (talk) 05:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  sexual harassment  

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message: You've got to be kidding and a grad student right? He's not only a hacktivist, but visionary, artistic, and rigorously creative and influential in his philosophy. As for going out for drinks with a 17 year old -- probably imprudent -- yes. But this idea that younger female students of older male professors are predated by the profs. Well, I can say for myself: I am a female, fell in love with philosophy and the prof, seduced him, yup, I sure did, and we were together 7 years. In fact, I seduced 2 separate previous profs of mine over the years, and even a good feminist friend who was really good, certainly did not agree or was even worried that I was a victim of a predator. In fact, he was more in danger of that than I was. As for the other woman, a graduate student, which at that point, the lines get blurry, were in a mutual relationship. And, rather disgustingly to me, the left put all of their text messages on the web. I haven't read them I refuse to. However, a good friend, did -- that is why I know that it was mutual relationship. The left wingers in philosophy essentially decided the case themselves in their court of public opinion. Destroyed his life prior even to the facts being settled -- PHILOSOPHERS, who should know better. Shouldn't (a) the legal system make the call? And (b)shouldn't the punishment fit the crime? Now you want to talk about a male prof who is a predator. Let's have a chat about Robert May, who spends his time chasing women around conferences, and pressuring them to death (I know, since he did it to me as a grad student)for sex. It's rather obvious. Now THAT guy is a creep who should not be teaching younger female students. But for whatever reason he gets away it and blatantly? But that doesn't mean he should have his life destroyed either. This new MacKinnonism going around one of the controversial opinions about men and women concerning sexual relations is flat-footed and stupid. She thinks healthy sex can't even be had. Now come on. Get real. And getting a pinch on the ass is now treated as the same as being grabbed at 12 and carried into a bedroom and raped. As that victim, that's rather insulting to me. And what's this with 2 stupid college students having sex but it follows that the guy raped her? Neither of them knew wtf they were doing. And what about the men that are being nearly hung from the rafters for doing something that at that time, no one knew better (I'm now referring to harassment and pinches on the ass). This is not the same as being raped. I know. And you know who's deciding this enthusiastic consent stuff(god how boring would sex get then with the same person after 10 years?)? White, upper middle class academic feminists. 25%? The studies I've read, just dismiss any student's assertion that they simply handled it and it was no big deal are excluded from the data, or are treated as victims of false consciousness. And philosophers actually believe this shit? Like really? That makes me embarrassed for profession. And yes he did not go to Rutgers because of Matt Drabek and Rebecca Kukla conspiring to send letters to the Dept demanding that they not hire him(who couldn't argue her way out of wet paper bag (10 areas of specialization. Come on. I know, because I went head to head with her. Her opinion was that because the facebook group was designated private that it was OK to slander someone to a potential employer. Nevermind that much of it should have been deemed part of his private life or should have been and at least in NY that's employment discrimination).I still think Rutgers should have more balls. But there's a really good guy they hired anyway Paul Pietroski who also deserves it.67.240.163.34 (talk) 10:37, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to Unknown and What Really Went Down