Talk:Italo Calvino

message: Actually "Il Politecnico" had nothing to do with the Turinese academic institution of the same name.  The title was inspired by Cattaneo's pioneering 19th century magazine. See the relevant articles on Italian Wikipedia or check e.g. this Italian academic source.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.59.14 (talk) 10:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Il Politecnico

message: Despite "Constance Markey"'s misunderstanding of secondary sources here (sources that were used in the article itself) and his/her disruptive behaviour, the bibliography proposed by this editor is solid and helpful (I'm familiar with each reference, in particular, Ricci and Markey - the latter academic not to be confused with the "Constance Markey" editor) and propose that the list be included under the heading "Further reading". If no one objects, I'll insert the list below (revised and cleaned up). --Jumbolino (talk) 10:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Further reading 

message: Okay, I think the article currently lists all the major works that were translated into English, and a few major untranslated works. FYI, I was mainly using these pages as guides (plus more that I've misplaced the links to), plus the few hardcopies I have at hand:
*http://www.amazon.com/Italo-Calvino-Martin-L-McLaughlin/dp/0748609172/ (good bibliography section at end, though some publication dates are not the earliest actual years)
*http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Calvino-European-American-Literature/dp/0872498581/
*http://kirjasto.sci.fi/calvino.htm
*http://www.sodsbrood.com/calvino/calbib.htm
*http://www.biographybase.com/biography/Calvino_Italo.html
*http://www.iblist.com/author1346.htm
*:it:Italo Calvino
I have removed a couple of items that don't appear to have ever been translated directly ("I racconti" and "Cosmicomiche vecchie e nuove"), as the complete list of his Italian works would be too vast for this article.
Let me/us know here, if there's anything missing, or if anyone needs help adding or shifting content. Thanks :) -- Quiddity (talk) 22:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Omissions and completion

message: I got a little lost at the mention of his belonging to a Fascist group in his youth... its placement early on lets one think he held these views as an adult. I'm curious about the source for this, and if true, and that membership was compulsory, maybe this just isn't important enough to include... it gives an odd impression, since he was anti-Fascist and actually fought fot the Resistance...   just a thought Semodisesamo (talk) 18:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fascism

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thread_title:  Copyright problem 

message: Unitareas, I really appreciate your attempt to prove that a person who had been in the Communist Party for 12 years was not a communist. Now stop it, please. (Same goes for Calvino being an outspoken atheist). You must consider that biographical details should not be changed according to the editor's will.--SandorKrasna (talk) 16:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The page says he left the communist party and was a socialist. It also says he was non-religious, so he could be agnostic. Unless you can add citations saying he was still a communist after he left and was an atheist, then I will remove the un-cited categories. --Unitareas (talk) 00:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As to your phrase, "he could be agnostic": it violates NPOV as this is speculation based on personal interpretation. Moreover, the article does not state that he was a card-carrying member of the Italian Socialist Party but that he espoused the democratic virtues of Socialism: not at all the same thing. I do agree, however, on verifiable references as a touchstone and will be furnishing these along with various proposals to resolve this minor dispute. In the meantime, the fact remains that you are constantly removing these categories based on your own agenda and ignorance of Calvino's life and work while refusing to engage discussion or even attempt to understand the viewpoints of other editors. I don't call that making a contribution to Wikipedia but simply arrogant and disruptive behaviour.--Jumbolino (talk) 10:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your right, it does violate NPOV to speculate, so until you can find sources that say he was a communist after he left the communist party and an atheist, I will remove these categories. I never said he was a card carrying member of the Italian Socialist Party, but he did believe in "international socialism." I am removing these categories because they have no sources in the article, not based on some conspiracy ignorance "agenda". Refusing to engage discussion? What do you call writing on the talk page then? You're the one who isn't understanding my viewpoint. And don't call me arrogant and disruptive. --Unitareas (talk) 06:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Tut tut. Calvino was never a member of the Italian Socialist Party and never championed or joined another political party whether Socialist or Communist after leaving the ICP in 1957. A verifiable reference on this point has been added to the article and anyone familiar with Wikipedia's articles on the ISP and the ICP will agree: to categorize him as an Italian Socialist is a blatant error. The quotation by Calvino's Italian editors is on "the democratic perspectives" of Communism-Socialism, period, and the poor translation has since been rectified. The article also states that he was a member of the Communist party (an historical fact) and this permits classifying him in the category of "Italian communists". I can find no rule at Wikipedia saying one cannot classify a former Communist as such; if the rule exists, then please provide it. Moreover, correctly categorizing him as such helps anyone consulting the list to discover the article and the author's past. Finally, Calvino described himself in two separate essays as an "atheist" and "non-religious". The verifiable source I provided confirms this. And so much for the arrogant, the disruptive, and the ignorant.--Jumbolino (talk) 09:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

text: those edits are fine. If there is no verifiability, then I can appropriately remove it. Looks like you don't know basic wikipedia knowledge. --Unitareas (talk) 08:20, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Unitareas

message: Was Calvino interested in the writer Cyrano de Bergerac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrano_de_Bergerac_(writer))?  If so, the article incorrectly links to the play by Rostand.  If, on the other hand, he was interested in Rostand's play Cyrano de Bergerac, then the article should be edited to name Rostand, in parallel with the remainder of the list which is entirely made up of the names of writers. zadignose (talk) 08:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyrano de Bergerac 

message: The use of the passive tense is maddening.  Were deemed defective by whom? Rick Norwood (talk) 00:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  but all were deemed defective 

message: I thought I'd check to see if anybody's interested enough to comment re: what I'm proposing to do. There are inaccuracies in publication dates and manner of publication (together vs. singly; novel vs. story vs. collection of stories; genre; and more) that I think are worth taking the time to straighten up. That said, I'd rather not if it just turns into a pissing match. I don't have the time for that.
I own almost all of the book versions of Calvino's works (in Italian) and from them it's easy enough to see when the dates indicated in this article are inaccurate as well as when different titles were published together in book form (vs. magazine) for the first time.
Please let me know if you feel strongly about this one way or another. Many thanks. Tadiew (talk) 03:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confident you'll do an excellent clean up. Best --Jumbolino (talk) 16:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: TYVM. It's very nice getting a response. Please let me know if I use the wrong way of referring to the books. Tadiew (talk) 01:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before diving into correcting the bibliography ... 

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