Talk:Chemical castration

message: A recent publication in the Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law suggests that the side effects are more serious than this wikipedia article suggests. Increased risks of diabetes, obesity, depression and coronary disease mean that, according to the authors 'testosterone deprivation therapy should include careful monitoring of side affects and their prevention and treatment. How should we change the article? Brrrtje
:Citation or link to abstract or text would help. Zodon (talk) 21:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Side effects 

message: I think "chemical castration" is very strange term for this procedure.  If I were heavily sedated, I wouldn't be able to walk, but I've never heard anyone call sedatives "chemical leg amputation".  I can't figure out if this is some weird medical jargon (like calling a miscarriage a "spontaneous abortion") or a propaganda word made up by someone who doesn't (or does?) like it (like "female circumcision").  On the other hand, I can't think of a good name that is more accurate; "intentional drug-induced male sexual impotence" is sort of cumbersome.  Will look around for other terms and consider a redirect. Boris B 02:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Castration: The act or an instance of making one incapable of reproducing sexually. JayW 17:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Interesting.  I wasn't aware of that def. Boris B 10:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: Have there been any attempts to use prolactin in addition or instead of the other treatments? Obviously there is the risk of causing lactation so I assume the dose would have to be low and might not be effective but it sounds like something which could help Nil Einne 16:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prolactin 

message: I felt that the statement “Most men will receive 400mg to 500mg per week, equal to 2.5 ml in each buttock. In some cases, men given oral doses as high as 700 mg/day have still reported regular sexual arousal and fantasies” was unclear.  Which drug is being refereed to here, Depot Provera, tamoxifen, the Herb chrysin, or something else?  Although the statement tends to lean to Depot Provera, I don’t believe it is explicit enough.  Since every drug has different dosage requirements, it is important to be clear on this subject.  Since I am not a doctor I do not have the medical knowledge make this change. 69.247.112.220 06:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug Dosage 

message: "Chemical castration also occurs as a natural consequence of hormone treatment for male-to-female transsexualism. However, unlike the treatment used on sex offenders, the hormones commonly used lead to permanent infertility.A New Tool in the Treatment of Sexual Addiction by Dr. J L Schaller"
Except this reference has nothing to do with infertility caused by MTF HRT. Perhaps this should go somewhere else?
Nebarnix 20:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Citation 

message: Is Alan Turing's sexuality under question, or are they questioning whether or not he was chemically castrated?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.143.135.191 (talk) 14:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Turing

message: I contest the point purported in this article, that says recidivism rates among sexual offenders is very high. One, "very high" is relative and doesn't relay much. What constitutes very high? Secondly, in the sexual offender article I believe it says recividism rates are less than 5%, and in some cases less than 1%. Can someone verify? 125.161.213.109 (talk) 07:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure that works well either.  How about using just the word "high"?  — Jake Wartenberg 02:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I think this is a good edit.  I don't believe it is necessary for the article to make claims about recidivism at all; it is enough just to say that chemical castration is meant to prevent re-offending.  The issue of sex offender recidivism has already been dealt with in this article, anyhow... best to leave it there and not reduplicate it.  Could we perhaps link to that article as a "see also" and avoid dealing with the issue here? Joren (talk) 02:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: recividism rates

message: Seems like Chemical castration and Medroxyprogesterone acetate treatment are both covering the same topic (from different angles - law enforcement vs. medical).  Since both articles relatively undeveloped, suggest they be merged.  Don't know which would be the more appropriate title for combined article. Zodon (talk) 09:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense.  So merging from MPA treatment to here seems to be the way to go. Zodon (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: merge Medroxyprogesterone acetate treatment

message: There is a link to a news page about SSRIs being used for chemical castration of paedophiles due to their known side effects. Although there is no doubt that this is a side effect of SSRIs (I have permanant PSSD (total loss of libido)from taking paxil years ago) I cannot find any evidence that it's been used specifically for this purpose. I wish it were the case as, if a accurate source could be cited, more people would accept PSSD as a result of the medication, rather than say it's psychological.
The article that was used as a citation does not make it clear if SSRIs were used to chemically castrate paedophiles or if it was just part of the overall treatment program (which included therapy) to prevent them reoffending. 94.196.52.119 (talk) 22:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect citation? 

message: The article begins the history section with the 1980s, but I read an article this morning stating that Alan Turing underwent chemical castration in 1952 as punishment for having a homosexual relationship. BillyDinPVD (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 11:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I merged the sections on use and history together and tried to add some info.  I'm surprised how hard it is to find information about early use of chemical castration... :/ Joren (talk) 01:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History and use 

message: Many men after receiving chemical castration develop breasts, it might be a stretch, but i believe this is permanent physical and psychological damage done to the body directly caused by the introduction of chemicals. I think that sentence needs to be removed, or a clause added discussing permanent side effects  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.46.56 (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source that says that?  Personally, the idea of castration in ANY form gives me shudders... HOWEVER - that does not change the fact that we need a citation before making an edit like that.  Can you provide studies or journals that say this?  For a topic like this I bet they oughta be pretty easy to find... Joren (talk) 23:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Duh use google! Making changes to ones hormones will naturally have numerous effects and side effects. Depletion of testosterone can cause bone loss, gynecomastia, impotence and a swarm of negative psychological effects such as depression and suicide. The side effects of the 'medicine' alone are extensive, look it up. The symptoms of low testosterone is almost universially negative, just ask anyone on HRT. To 'chemically castrate' a person will be very unhealthy and have long lasting irreversible consequences. It's a very harsh punishment with a devastating impact on the body. It's often combined with antipsychotics, this will make the person a living zombie. It would be much more humane(and cheap) to amputate some of his penis. I also find it appaling that doctors participate in this and call it 'treatment'. Reminds me of the Nazi doctors. It's a punishment, designed to pacify the prisoner regardless of the health effects, like a lobotomy. At least be honest about it. 93.161.107.239 (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  no permanent physical change is caused in the body? 

message: The article should make mention of use on women, even if it is to state that it is not used on women, because, as some above comments indicate, depo-provera's effects on females. I won't add anything since I no absolutely nothing on the subject, but it should be added to flesh out the article, at least, and make it more complete. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 06:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women 

message: There is no indication that a lowered testosterone level inhibits sex drive nor for that matter aggresion. The causant of all aggresion is an attempt to resolve an internal or externally impinging irritant, and neither of those two have anything to do with testosterone levels.
Case in point, before you start blurbing original research to satisfy some form of political current day rational:
A woman´s testosterone level is LOWER than a males, HOWEVER, it is overall true that females are fastly more aggresive than males although not in the same form nor manner. It is also true, that OLD age lowers the testosterone level, BUT, does NOT lower the aggresive drive to REMOVE irritants (and that gentlemen, is clearly visible in most any political process. The politician being both the aggresor and the beaten dog at the same time, some form of sado-masochistic drive to scratch an itch called irritant.)
Lot´s and lot´s of studies, from prison studies to army studies to bully sindrome and groupism.
Castration, does NOT lower the incidence of child molestation, NOR aggresion, it changes the form and manner that an internal or external irritant is reacted too.
For those with some scientific interest, the correlational data is MASKED by and through a third variable, and that variable is not sex drive, nor aggresion, but irritants and resolving in such a form and manner that those irritants no longer impinge on the neuronal system.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.94.180.110 (talk) 19:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castration, aggresion and testosterone. 

message: I feel the need for more information on the main page about what kind drugs there are. I'm not so good about searching these names online/ofline can somone please add them ?
maybe in a colum whise manour? tnx Retrorick wikipedia (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: 80 per cent of stuff on the planet is poisonous, any of those you would think would have the detrimental effect apparently being sought.  As stated above, most will be anticoagulants.  Are you seriously proposing to add millions of substances?  Maybe a link to category:anticoagulants?  Seems it would be more productive to add a section on the psychology and politics of penis envy. 55378008a (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putting a list of medicinal names on the main page ? 

message: I'm curious no one has mentioned Brock Turner in this context.  With the memory loss, that sounds like habu or Bothrops atrox (batroxobin).  Am I correct, people never mention commonly attributed to marijuana -type memory loss or even 'apathy' as a symptom of the progesterones?  Or am I missing something.  It happens. 55378008a (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember now the other guy that really surprised me, Jared Fogle.  Wouldn't that guy be a prime asset for a little 'wouldn't want you to get hurt yourself' pseudo-experimental nip in the buddin'? 55378008a (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent legal precedent 

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message: Apologies, I'm still new to editing here and the article is semi-protected so unable to edit directly, but the paragraph right after the Scientific Critique section beginning with:
"Spaying is observed to cause female animals to stop mating in the same way as castration causes male animals to stop mating. However, in animal species where females continue their mating behaviour after being spayed, the males also continue to mate after being castrated..." should be completely removed or at least extensively reworked. It feels random and completely unrelated to the previous section, and really to the topic as a whole. Chimera22 (talk) 09:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientific critique section  

message: Edit "hot flahes" to "hot flashes", as this is clearly a simple typo. 51.9.253.240 (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Cannolis (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2024