Talk:St Agnes, Cornwall

message: The History section is inadequate and needs to be expanded.----Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're funny! Of course it does - so do the empty sections. After having organised things into sections, I'm going top down and am at Geography moving into Geology. I'm guessing I still have 4-6 hours of work to go.--CaroleHenson (talk) 14:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, my estimate was way off! I'm finding so much on English Heritage's site - I'll be here for awhile as I comb through how much of it is notable. Very interesting info, though!--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad you find this interesting; WikiProject Cornwall needs more editors willing to upgrade articles, particularly for the larger parishes. A few of the good editors who used to be at work have done lots of good editing but have "retired". It is easy to see what is wrong with articles but serious improvement takes much more effort. Part of the problem with the history is that the histories which cover every parish in Cornwall are so old: the one edited by Polsue is the most recent and the Victoria County History has only one volume for Cornwall. John Maclean's history of the Deanery of Trigg Minor is very detailed but only covers 20 parishes and was published over 130 years ago. The Genuki website has pages for every parish in Cornwall: there is quite a lot of useful information there.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:55, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That's good to know - I haven't been using Genuki (except to see if there are links to reliable sites) - because I thought as a genealogy site it wouldn't be considered a reliable site. Yep, I'm having the same problem, most of the books are from quite a bit ago.--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Genuki is useful for general history but you need to be aware that some of the text it includes may have been written in the 19th century so a version of it may not fit very well beside what is being written now. It is good for accounts from local directories (19th century) and for places of worship and cemeteries. There is no general editing, only what various individuals have contributed. A few places in Cornwall have good local histories like Penzance and Constantine. Most of the historians from Cornwall have written about the county in general rather than their own district.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:36, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: The CISI St Agnes report has additional information about the geography of St Agnes, it's beginnings as a "churchtown" and neighboring communities - some in the beginning of the report, more on page 12 and on. 
I don't know that we need it, but it's good information. Thought I'd post it here since the article is already getting so long.--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional info? 

message: Creating this to cross-check whether they are all in St Agnes and whether they're a village or settlement.
Settlement      	Village or hamlet	St Agnes Council (W=Ward)	Explore Britain - V, H, Other	Other
Banns           	                 	                         	O                            	
Barkla Shop     	                 	                         	O                            	
Blackwater      	V                	W, V                     	O                            	
Blowinghouse    	                 	                         	O                            	
Cross Coombe    	                 	                         	O                            	
Goonvrea        	H                	                         	O                            	In St Agnes (SAPC)
Higher Bal      	                 	                         	O                            	
Mawla           	                 	                         	                             	Explore Britain says it's in Redruth. An old map (and checking that placement against a new map) shows that a stream just below Mawla is the dividing line for the St Agnes Parish.
Menagissey      	                 	                         	O                            	
Mithian         	V                	W, V                     	O                            	
Mount Hawke     	V                	W, V                     	O                            	
Porthtowan      	                 	W, -                     	O                            	
Skinner's Bottom	                 	                         	O                            	
St Agnes        	V                	W,                       	O                            	Includes hamlets such as Goonbell, Goonvrea, Goonown (SAPC)
Stencoose       	                 	                         	O                            	
Towan Cross     	                 	                         	O                            	
Trevellas       	                 	                         	O                            	
Wheal Kitty     	                 	                         	O                            	
Wheal Rose      	                 	                         	                             	Explore Britain says it's in Redruth. There are people from Wheal Rose included in the census numbers for Porthtowan - I wonder if some of Wheal Rose is in St Agnes Parish and some area is in Red Ruth.
There's also a Manor Parsley, Mingoose, Mithian Downs, New Downs, Peterville, Silverwell, Two Burrows
--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:26, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This may be useful: [Cornwall; Explore Britain. Though this site provides a lot of useful information it does not help in distinguishing villages and hamlets.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wonderful, yes I'll check it out. Thanks.--CaroleHenson (talk) 13:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All but 2 of the places were shown by Explore Britain to be in St Agnes Parish: Mawla and Redruth. In both cases there wasn't a Parish mentioned in the article, but I've seen both included in St Agnes Parish, too. So I'm guessing that there's land in both Parishes. For the moment, I added the Redruth parish to both articles with a citation - and St Agnes is an uncited parish. I'll check that out as I work (kind of slowly) on the parish settlements. I've finished Blackwater and will likely start on another settlement a bit later today.--CaroleHenson (talk) 14:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1961 map shows Mawla in St Agnes parish a few yards from a stream which is the boundary with Redruth parish; there are a few buildings on the the opposite side of the stream so they could be in Mawla as well. I can't see Wheal Rose on the one-inch maps 189 or 190 (1961); if I look on OS Get-a-map it should be there. Redruth is a Cornish name which means "red ford" but "red" = ford, and "ruth" = red; it is a civil parish and the nearest town to St Agnes. You are making good progress.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks! Yes, that's my first laugh at myself for today - that was a mistake.--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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