Talk:Terry Bogard

message: I am wondering if Alice Board is a real character from an upcomming Garou game or is it a hoax from someone posting on wiki? If real, does anyone have a link to a credible online site that makes mention of this character and this game.
After finding a description of her on the Terry Wiki page, I looked online for more infomation about Alice and the Garou Legends of the Wild Wolf game (if it actually exist.) However, I could not find any and because past history on wikipedia shows that an Alice Bogard character page was removed on wikipedia a few times recently, I would have to assume that it is a hoax unless further information and an actual reference article surfaces..
I find odd that the article for her is attached to Terry's article rather than an article of the Wild Wolf (which a wiki page doesn't exist.) Furthermore, the character bio on wiki seems to be written as if the character is a fan made character. Accordin to the wiki article, she is the cousin and obsessive fan of Terry, to the point of dressing and copying him. It further goes on to trivia dabble like how Billy Kane groped her and as a result, hate perverts and how she enters the tournment to fight Geese. Unless this game is before real bout, isn't Geese suppose to be dead?
Because there is lack of source references on the article and that I can't find anything on a new Garou game on Joystiq, Kotaku or 1up.com, I have since removed the badly written bio of hers on the Terry Bogard wiki article.
If it is real, we can create and add her description on the Alice Bogard or Garou Legend of the Wild wolf page rather than just stickin it on the Terry Bogard's page. Also, addin reference sources with linksof where the picture and the description would be helpful to verify that Alice Bogard and Legend of the Wiild Wolf is real and not fan fiction mumbo jumbo.
--Doomzaber (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The only thing I found for Alice were the pachinko games and the Days of Memories dating sim. In the latter, Alice isn't related to Terry at all. Her name is completely different, "Alice Garnet Nakata". She "cosplays" as him and idolizes Terry's go-getter personality. In the slot game, she follows Terry wherever he goes. She was a limited edition cell phone buddy for Yahoo mobile but I can't find the link to that anymore. Secondary sources are hard to come by but she does exist. 1 2 3 Sake neko (talk) 04:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alice Bogard? 

message: Well, I've been following the Terry article for almost a year now, and after stepping in to clean up Rock's (still left a few things in tact that quite frankly were still POV, but whatever) but I'm shocked at what's going on here. An entire debate over whether or not Ken and Terry are "rivals" etc. But in all fairness, as long as all Capcom/SNK "relationships" are treated as such (non encyclopedia...well...eh, not like Terry being able to tell a woman's measurements is more relevant...anyways) bottom line this article needs to be cleaned up as well. Such as the "character relationships", where it's stated "Ryo" is his new rival (...again...this is even more speculative/pov than Ken's) and how the Garou storyline is heavily dramatized/in universe. I was basing the Rock guide off Terry's only to search for a citation of the battle and finding nothing, and thus I've decided to clean up this section is well. I will also be removing the "in universe" quote, as my edits should limit everything to the canonical story of the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters games. I'm asking please to not revert my work (cleaning up POV is never pretty) but please discuss it with me here if you like/do not like the changes. Dream Rurouni 21:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to point out that within the KoF games Terry usually will have a witty thing to say about Ryo and his team after fighting them, which he normally does not do to opponents. You can see this in XI, as well as see the two clashing in 1999 Dream Match's opening (check youtube) and two of their pictures clashing in the XI opening. In Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition, Mr Karate(Ryo)'s ending has him and Terry fighting after Geese is defeated. In KoF: Maximum Impact 2/The King of Fighters 2006, Mr. Karate's story background states that he wants to defeat Terry so he can feel like he really was able to beat Geese. Considering ALL of these facts, I think its perfectly acceptable to believe Terry and Ryo are indeed rivals.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.158.91 (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Edit 

message: That top pic is ugly...--Dangerous-Boy 22:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I thought it was pretty off road too. I've replaced it. -ZeroTalk 15:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What happened to the pictures? It seems to be an SNK-article-wide purge. - Mayy 03:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  better pic 

message: "Although Terry and Rock were to face off against each other in the finals, Grant (a.k.a. The Martyr of Might) approached the two by surprise. Terry told Rock that now would not be a good time to square off against each other since he had to fight Grant. Although Terry was victorious against Grant, he was too exhausted to proceed, forcing Rock to succeed Terry's place in the final minutes of Maximum Mayhem. As Grant started to pass away due to excessive might, Grant ordered Rock to go to Kain's mansion to learn more about his past. Terry became nothing but a spectator as Rock eventually defeated Kain with a version of Geese's Deadly Rave.
Approaching the crumpled mansion, Terry finds out that Rock is now Kain's partner, and knows that he must trust Rock's decision to stick with Kain for a while. Terry then leaves the vicinity knowing that Rock has finally left his den. Terry eventually finds Kevin Rian's partner, Marky, a moment after losing Rock to Kain. Realizing his failure, Terry then lived the life of a lonely wolf once again. Time will only tell whether or not Terry will find another cub to raise."
What?  I don't remember hearing this anywhere in Mark of the Wolves, but I'm hesitant to change it because I haven't played the new KOFs or seen the animes.
It sounds like fan fiction to me...  Showdown 16:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this character history accurate? 

message: I saw the "Controversial" note in the trivia section, and I'll honor the wishes of whoever put that there by asking about things I think should be deleted. The trivia section could be cleaned up a lot still. I think that changes in special moves (which happens to most KoF characters from game to game) shouldn't be listed, and things about fighting style should be integrated. Similarly, plot details, such as Alba and Terry's fight with Duke, would fit better in the game-specific storyline section. Trivia such as speculative resemblance to a Beyblade character should not be in the article at all. -- Digital Watches! 15:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversial" edits 

message: The part talking about AD is incorrect. It actually was dubbed into English. SNKPlaymore released the DVD to America alongside The King of Fighters 2006, however Gamestop received their shipments late. They did have them there later to be picked up. I myself picked one up and saw they did indeed dub this into English, using the Maximum Impact voice actors I believe. This should probably be edited, even if it is a minor note, as well as other SNK characters who have that listed in their pages. Unfortunatley, I could not find this information on IMDB about Another Day, so I really have no proof other than "Go watch for yourself."
Also, I have to agree with the previous poster that things like his jacket resembling Michael Jackson's (I don't really see HOW it does other than its a red jacket...) but those things are just opinions and really have no bearing as far as an encylopedia is concerned.
The story stating that it is implied that Geese wanted Terry to raise Rock is another speculation and should not be listed, in my opinion, on the page due to this is a page for facts and not speculation. On further note of Rock, I could be mistaken but it never really states anywhere IN Mark of the Wolves that Terry fought Grant and had Rock go on ahead. When playing as Rock, you do fight Grant AS Rock. Towards the end, Terry shows up, holding his shoulder like he'd gotten into a fight with someone else, but its not as though it was necessarily Grant. In fact, in Rock's story, Rock fights Terry before fighting Grant. That could be why Terry shows up battle-wounded. The part of Terry taking on Grant sounds more like die-hard fans not wanting to accept the fact that Rock probably beat Terry.
Terry's look, on a minor note, also has some things left out about his hat, mostly just that sometimes it says Neo-Geo on it or its just plain white, but its just a minor note. Another minor note would be I don't recall anywhere stating Ukee is his pet...Ukee just sort of shows up. But again, I could be mistaken.
Another thing I noticed that could fit into the trivia, is that in CvSNK2, Terry has a special opening pose with Yamazaki where he grits his teeth and shakes his fist (if I recall correctly) which would be a reference to Yamazaki's actions in Fatal Fury 3 that would give Terry a strong dislike for Yamazaki.
Oh...and what is this thing about some guy named AJ? Did someone just decide to tamper with the page for fun? lol
:I agree. The AJ thing has nothing to do with anything in this article. I removed it along with the bit about no English voiceovers. I don't know if they recorded English VOs or not, but I vote that no info is better than wrong info. - Mayy 21:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  KoF: Another Day (among other things) 

message: One of the many inherent problems that many people have in attempting to reconcile the storylines of The King of Fighters with those of the Fatal Fury series is the death of Geese Howard. Terry knocked Geese through the wooden guardrail in the last canon appearance of Geese in the Fatal Fury series, and grabbed him as he fell. Geese released himself from Terry's grasp, and allowed himself to fall to his death. But seeing how the events of that game were closely related to the Jin scrolls, which apparently had something to do with the power of immortality, and Geese was in possession of them, it is reasonable to assume that Geese preferred to test their effectiveness than to live with the shame of being saved by his enemy, especially considering his grin at the time, or even that he'd prefer decieving everyone with his non-existent death. Thus, the reason he would also make sporadic appearances in canon King of Fighters games.
Confirming this is the presence of a young Rock Howard in some of Terry's newer winposes, suggesting that Geese they in fact take place after he was "killed" anyways. Lastly, in several other games, including SNK vs Capcom: SVC CHAOS, he has always introduced himself as the immortal Geese Howard, and in Capcom vs SNK 2 he sells it by your killing him, and him just standing right back up. While it's been fairly vague, it's been spelled out enough that it's safe to assume this is the case. Hopefully, SNK tell more of this as we get closer to 2008 (Garou's timeline).
:Some of that smacks of fanon, and its not written very encyclopedic way. The CvS games aren't canon for either company, and SvC's status is questionable at best. Bottom line is Geese fell to his apparent death, but seems to be alive and well by at least '96, even sponsoring a team in KoF03. That's all we know. The how and why's (he faked it/Jin scrolls/alternate timeline) are all speculation, and something that likely will never be given a canon explanation. - Mayy 05:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just went ahead and removed that whole bit. If, as the article claims, KoF uses Terry's background from FF1 and 2, then the Jin scrolls have nothing to do with Geese's being alive, seeing as FF3 didn't happen in the KoF timeline. Either way, there's really no way to save those two paragraphs. I really don't know much about the earlier KoFs, and next to nothing about FF3, so if someone with factual info wants to rewrite/correct it, go ahead. In the meantime, I'm taking it out on account of fanon. - Mayy 21:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is fanon. Many try and claim the KoF and FF timelines coinside, but they only do loosely. I'm the one who put that background for FF1 and 2 info up because KoF 94 was made before FF3, and FF3 came out around the same time as KoF 95, but old school Fatal Fury always happened a year ahead of our time, unlike KoF. So FF3 would have been in 96, contradicting the KoF 96 tournament where Geese appeared on a team with Krauser and Mr. Big. Another problem is Real Bout: Fatal Fury came out in 1995 as well, meaning either way its impossible for KoF and FF timelines to connect. Its kinda like an alternate universe, same with Maximum Impact though I believe THAT actually may be within the FF and AoF timeline.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.161.241 (talk) 10:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terry and Geese 

message: Much controversy exists as to what Terry states during execution of special moves. As all the games he appeared in were ports of the original Japanses versions all his statements are in Japanese.
:Um, he says everything in English. Ok, maybe EnRish, but still. None of his "move announcements" are in Japanese. - Mayy 16:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Screen Utterances 

message: In alot of Terry's earlier appearances, he use to announce his moves as he performs them but lately, every since SNK changed, Terry has been saying something else when he performs them. Is this even worth mentioning (since another change is Kim's name, as he hadn't been referred to by his full name lately either)? Dark Rain
:Its worth mentioning I guess, but he didn't start that until Garou and it didn't get into KoF until the 2002 tournament. His Garou look from MI1 and Wild Wolf from 2006 both use the different words. I can name them all right here for someone to post.
*Rock You: Power Wave
*Get Back: Crack Shoot
*Vega(??): Rising Tackle (Unsure if thats what he actually SAYS but it sounds like it in 2002).
*Burning: Burn Knuckle
*Charging: Power Charge
*Get up here: Power Dunk
*Go Back: Power Geyser
*Live Wire Go Back: Tripple Geyser
*Live Wire Bada Boom: Said in MI1. I don't know if its like that in the Japanese version, but he sure says it in the American one.
*Are you okay? Buster Wolf: As if no one knows this one.
*Rush Power: Forgot the name, but its similar to Raging Storm but sends a huge beam of energy up from the ground and straight into the air off the screen. Someone outta know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.161.241 (talk) 10:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terry's move announcements

message: Any way we could get a picture of his classic look in here under fair use? 76.178.95.219 06:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

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message: Rating B-class, though I'd recommend buffering it up some more before pursuing GA. Some more references if possible will definitely fortify. The attributes section could use a once over with a fine tooth comb, and afterwards possibly made a part of the characteristics section? Another minor thing, but with mawhua, did you mean manhua?
The article is just copyedit what you have so it flows better and is easier to read, the reception section being a big example in this case. Still this is an amazingly informative article and a pleasure to read. Good job!--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment as of [[2009-03-15]] 

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message: In celebration of SNK's 40th anniversary, multiple artists made illustrations of some series. Eisuke Ogura did one of Terry here which covers both his Fatal Fury: King of Fighers outfit, his Fatal Fury 2 outfit and the Garou one. Do you guys think, it might be appropiate for the infobox so that we reduce the amount of nonfree images?Tintor2 (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about this? 

message: For the image we use the original artist since the CGI appears in only one game.Tintor2 (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: :This is almost into GA. 115.37.207.141 (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm busy with other articles to focus on this. If you want to nominate it, then you first gotta make your own account. For nominations, sometimes it is needed to be done by the most common editor so I don't know if you could do it with an account. Better get familiarized with the manual of style.Tintor2 (talk) 23:08, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: The section of the origin of Terry states that "they explained that their previous work included a Caucasian male [...] But they wanted to include this Caucasian male in their next game [...] This mysterious Caucasian ended up being the model for Terry."
I have a feeling that they only meant to refer to him as white; not by the Caucasian race (which according to Wikipedia itself is an outdated grouping), and not that he's from Caucasus. "Caucasian" isn't a synonym for "white person". The source provided is for a book titled SF25: The Art of Street FIghter, an English translation of the Japanese book ストリートファイターアートワークス 極. I'm curious if we can find the original information regarding this character and figure out if they truly meant that original character to be Caucasian or just merely white. Are we able to find someone who has the Japanese book in possession who can quote it? Liggliluff (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not entirely sure what's the correct word but it is apparently the character featured in this intro.Tintor2 (talk) 02:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it to "a white man" during my copyediting - the language "a Caucasian male" at best has a tinge of outdatedness to it.--AlexandraIDV 12:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the origin of Terry Bogard really a Caucasian?