Talk:List of NHL players with 500 goals

message: Should we update the active players' statistics after each game they play, after each goal they score, or just after each season?  The reason I ask is that Peter Bondra played his first game with the Blackhawks tonight and scored his 499th career goal. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If a player scores 500 goals, then update their stats. Otherwise, wait until the end of the season. Because the list can become very cluttered if you have random updates for select players. Perhaps we could do a table-wide update during the all-star break? -- Scorpion0422 05:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  When should this be updated? 

message: The section Team by Team 500-Goal Scorers is very misleading. It includes those players who scored their 500th goal with that team, not actually those who scored all 500 goal with that team. Only a few players have scored 500 goals with the same team. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team by Team 500-Goal Scorers 

message: Earlier, someone vandalized the page. While it WAS vandalism, they did raise a very good point: Why is everyone insisting on the list being out of date (i.e. without Iginla) until the end of the season? On the 1000 points page last season, there were four players who reached the milestone (Alfredsson, Kovalev, Iginla, Thornton) and they were added, but without career totals so they could be updated at the end of the season. This makes sense. Leaving Iginla off the list until April, however, does not make sense. And just tacking something onto the "within 50" bit saying he reached it doesn't help - it just makes the fact that he SHOULD be on the list even more blatant. We sort of need a way to solve this problem. 70.79.198.253 (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That list is sorted by date so its order wouldn't change and the career points and games were left blank for the new players.  Meanwhile this list is sorted by career goals, the order of which may change on a daily basis. 99.245.230.74 (talk) 04:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this not up to date? 

message: Because of all the editing and reverting of mid-season updates, there is method to at least warn editors when updates are appropriate.  Wikipedia:Editnotice seems to do the trick, though only an admin can add them.  The text underneath the table at Wikipedia:Editnotice#Creating_editnotices spells out the steps to create them.  Anyone think that this may help with the edits? — MrDolomite • Talk 16:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:Editnotice 

message: I think it's time to update the scoring of the active 500 goal scorers since the 2012-13 NHL Season is over. BattleshipMan (talk) 23:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to update the scoring of the active 500 goal scorers 

message: When listing what countries these players are from, there should be a consistent standard for which one "wins" when there are two or more plausible answers. If it's by birth, you get to count Trottier as Canadian, but would have to count Mikita as Czech (or possibly Slovak, I don't know his family background in detail). If it's who they played for internationally, Mikita would count as a Canadian, but I think most would agree you'd have to consider Trottier an American. In either case, it's at least not obvious both should count as Canadians. (I guess you could go by citizenship too, though that's not a possibility the article mentions. This would generally work out the same as going by who they played for internationally.)
Personally I prefer the latter definition - it corresponds better to how hockey fans actually think of these players, and what they themselves identified as at the time they were doing the things that make hockey fans interested in them. The way that bit of the article is currently written seems to rely on an agenda-pushing double standard where if there's any sort-of-plausible way to count someone as Canadian, you do so. 50.72.9.214 (talk) 12:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is complicated, because Trottier was born and raised in Canada, and Mikita was Canadian raised/trained. Trottier also played more internationally for Canada, and after a skirmish with Peter Stastny (who was playing for Canada as a Czechoslovakian defector), he remarked on the Canadian crowd that "they booed me, a born and raised Canadian, and cheered some Czech." I would consider Trottier and Mikita both primarily Canadian, but I agree that there should be a consistent standard. The standard that the NHL uses on their website is the standard of the Hockey Hall of Fame, which is place of birth, which would make Trottier (and Brett Hull) Canadian, and Mikita Slovakian. I think this is the most fair standard. Also worth noting that Jari Kurri is not the first 500 goal scorer to never play for the Canadian national team. Jean Beliveau was Canadian but played before NHL players played international events. 99.237.222.68 (talk) 16:21, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trottier/Mikita 

message: Wouldn't it be prudent, especially with regard to the section about the players who took the fewest games to reach 500, to show when they entered the League as well? You can't really appreciate that fully from the number of games played and the date shown. I think a more explicit statistic (e.g. first NHL game played) would go a long way toward showing that. Otherwise it just sort of lacks good context. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:26, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  When players joined League relative to their 500th goal game