Talk:Yugoslav First League

message: Hurricane Angel, your season delineation noticably differs from that one at http://www.rsssf.com/tablesj/joegchamp.html
Also, Crvena Zvezda has an article so you missed that one needlessly. --Joy [shallot] 02:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Shallot, I was actually rushing the edit because I was on my way to work. I just got back now and be sure that I'll be finishing the edit.. Did you really think I forgot about Crvena Zvezda? Haha, no way man. I was hoping in the history the "incomplete" was enough :) --Hurricane Angel 04:16, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It looked a bit weird, and I'm pretty sure that those fans would think that we were screwing with their heads if they saw the list :) --Joy [shallot] 10:29, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, anyways. What would you think of a table instead of a list, which also includes the runner-up, and instead of miniature flags like the Football world cup it has miniature club emblems? I was thinking that might be organizing things even further, and then having a "Top Champions" where it lists them by how many times they won? --Hurricane Angel 18:04, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: seasons and CZ

message: Joy, it's true that at that point Yugoslavia dissolved, however SCG (being the biggest proponent of Yugoslavia) kept the name and the name of the league.. which is what we're describing. I personally would much rather see the records for the dates up until 2003, after all SCG didn't exist as an entiry or as a football league (note they still use www.fsj.co.yu, both FSJ and the YU), so it's much more fitting that we include those years in the table you made.
: I wouldn't mind if you created a separate article called "Yugoslav First League (FRY)" or something like that, but I think having it in First League of Serbia and Montenegro is sufficient, and it's definitely not right to keep it all in here. FSJ had kept that name when the FR Yugoslavia was formed (NB: SFRY was not renamed to FRY, the latter was a different country by all international standards), and kept it until FRY was renamed to SCG (NB this was a rename) - it was then renamed to FSSCG. Their domain is probably kept for backwards compatibility, just like the ccTLD was kept in general.
: I must point out that the football federations are really SNAFU when it comes to history. For example the Croatian federation considers teams from Banovina Hrvatska, Independent State of Croatia and the Republic of Croatia all the same. Both of the federations seem to have the same motive for doing so - being able to claim historical successes as their own. Clubs do it too. However, it's not encyclopedic to ignore simple historical facts.
: It would probably be best if we had the original documents pertaining to the definition of the two YFLs - if these texts differ, and they quite likely do, then I wouldn't have only common sense as the rationale for the split ;) --Joy [shallot] 10:01, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But it's irrelevant, because it was first renamed to "Croatia" in 1993, two years after they had stopped participating in the Yugoslav First League. If someone wishes to know the name of Dinamo in that later period, they can click through to its article. --Joy [shallot] 10:01, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SCG and the successor issue 

message: I think two article is talk the same league system of SFRY. It is better to merge two, and clean up to showing the succession of FRY league, Croatian league, Kosovo league, Bosnian league, Slovenian League. Matthew_hk tc 15:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Didn't FK Vardar of Skopje, Macedonia win a league title in 1987?
Can somebody please confirm or deny this?
Alex 202.10.89.28 07:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: from rsssf.com
[3] Ten clubs had started the 1986/87 season with a deduction of 6 points,
    among them Partizan and Crvena zvezda, because of the events in the
    previous season.  Vardar Skopje, who had not been deducted 6 points, won
    the title, and participated in the 1987/88 Champions Cup, but the points
    deduction was later annulled after more legal proceedings, and the title
    was given to Partizan, who headed the table with the deduction.
Matthew_hk tc 08:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The legal "proceedings" against Vardar were executed in the SERBIAN court, thus for me, as a Macedonian they are not legal. We saw 5 to 10 years latter what are Serbs prepared to do in order to "win". Hopefully for Macedonia and Macedonians it was only one championship, unlike our friends in Bosnia.... :-(  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.29.243.121 (talk) 20:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FK Vardar 

message: The title of this article is not accurate. The top level of Yugoslav football was not generally known as the "First League". It should either be renamed to its final name Prva savezna liga, or to the more general Yugoslav football championship.--Thewanderer (talk) 13:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hum, I tend to agree. You should raised this issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football to catch a wider audience.--Latouffedisco (talk) 16:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it's rather unaccurate, but on the other hand, the article deals with top flight Yugoslav level, regardless what it was called throughout the decades. Since the format has went to so many changes, especially in the 1920's, 1930's and later on, perhaps the Yugoslav football championship would be a better choice. As for the names of top level leagues, I think it's redundant to put that in the champions' table. The tables are meant to serve as an overview of the topic covered and should be limited to only the most relevant data, and I think there are almost too many tables as it is. Perhaps some accompanying text could be added describing the changes the system went through throughout the years? And maybe we could separate everything apart from the most important stats (champions, goalscorers and performance by club) into a separate article, where a subsection on Yugoslav clubs' achievements in European context could be added? Timbouctou (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. A separate article such as "Yugoslav football championship records" or whatever could be interesting, with achievements of Yugoslav clubs in European competitions. Also I will had an infobox to the article soon, with basic informations.--Latouffedisco (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

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message: How the hell can Zeljeznicar Sarajevo be on the top here? Someone is trolling obviously. And no way in hell that they could have played more matches and have more points in the First Yugoslav League then Velež Mostar, Sarajevo or Vojvodina.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FKS1946 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  All-Time First Yugoslav League Table, Željezničar on the top?! 

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thread_title:  Ref-notes