Talk:Wigger/Archive 1

message: Should we merge this article with the very-similar UK slang term chav?  69.219.146.25 17:53, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge with chav? 

message: ==Criticism==
"Some note that the word wigger is disproportionately often used by caucasians, and that use of the word is sometimes based in a racist belief that Afro culture is only suitable for blacks, depreciating the many cultural inventions and innovations that originated with African-American and Caribbean culture."  
Can we do better? Who notes?  Do they really "note" or do they "claim"? Removed for now.
: I originally wrote that but I can't remember the source for this criticism. I agree that it's pretty POVly formulated. Help with the paragraph is appreciated, because I do think this is a valid and important criticism of the term "wigger". I'll try to think up a better way to write it, too, keep it on the talk page for a while. I'll add this to my watchlist. Would "Some believe..." be better?
: Would you call black piano players "blites" or "oreos"?
About the fox-news-like weasel words "Some say..." -- I see this all the time on wikipedia, and I never like it when I read it, but it's hard to avoid it when I write. Any generic tips for alternatives to this phrase? Sunnan 21:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel words... 

message: While wiggers often fail in integrating themselves into Black communities, there are those that succeed. It may be useful to note that Wiggers often beleive they are part of the Black communty, although this is far from the case. The only successful integrations that I have been are subtle and do not involve the superficial aspects of Black culture; It is the superficial elements and credibility that Wiggers are often concerned with. 782 Naumova 11:10, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integration 

message: May I (or another admin) semi-protect this page for a bit?  It's been getting nothing but vandalism recently.  --King of All the Franks 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I'd personally rather give it a day or two, to see if these levels continue Robdurbar 09:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting protection 

message: This article is about the English slang term.  For the Turkic people, see Uyghur.
What is the relation about Uyghur. Is it about similarity of pronunciation?--Ugur Basak 21:04, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''This article is about the [[English language|English]] slang term.  For the [[Turkic peoples|Turkic]] people, see '''[[Uyghur]]'''.'' 

message: Hi I'm puzzled as to if this term "wigger" is supposed to be a negative term or not. I'm curious to know if a European person (myself included) has choosen to embrace the hip-hop culture, is that person supposed to be labeled with such a term? Austrian Guy06 01:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, of course it is a pejorative term. That doesn't mean it's not the perfect word to describe white people emulating the sort of black people for whom calling each other niggaz and gangstas is part of their lifestyle. Also, I think the article should feature a pic of the Icy Hot Stuntaz, the epitome of wiggers. Kar98 04:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  negative term? 

message: Im disputing this quote and accompanying text as POV.
 whereas the contemporary wigger embodies it: 
   The wiggers are the central white culture; there is no white culture that they’re countering anymore.  
I find it to be incorrect, slightly offensive and clearly POV. Jack Cain 08:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed about the offensiveness, but it is attributed to someone as a quote, rahter than stating it as a fact; it is shown to be someone's opinion Robdurbar 08:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV Dispute 

message: Comment from anon moved from main page:
'<comment/suggestion: I say this comment should be striken from the database as by "cocky caucasians" he mainly focussing on the caucasians in power trying to give him trouble by suing him by any means necessary>'
Thoughts? Robdurbar 08:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem Lyric 

message: I was listening to the Elivis Costello song 'Oliver's Army' in which there's a line refering to Irish people as 'white niggers' and I came here to look it up but I got this page about 'Wiggers' could someone please create, or disambig this article so people can actually find what they are looking for? -- NatsukiGirl\talk 00:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish people? 

message: He's a respected rapper and bringing up his race on the "wigger" article is sooo not appropriate. Bubba Sparxx too I guess. I can see the connection, but it does not seem very appropriate for wikipedia. It seems kind of cheeky. I'm deleting it. 70.160.101.148 04:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Wall 

message: This page was a mess.  I completely deleted everything except for the factual definition of the term.  The rest of the article was highly POV in that it treated what's nothing more than a slur as if it were a genuine anthropological phenomenon.  I don't see a list of examples of "niggers" in pop-culture on the nigger page, why were there examples of wiggers here?  Now there is a history of white Americans deriding whites who "act black" - that could be scholarly detailed in this article, but not from the POV that they deserve such derision.  --128.164.229.179 20:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean Up 

message: The version Snackmagic contests appears to have relevant reliable resources that document the cultural usages and journalistic obersvations.  Why is it so objectionable?  Snackmagic really needs to document his concerns clearly and concisely on the talk page.  If he fails to make his objections clear, we will need to initiate mediation.  The purpose of Wikipedia is to document facts already present, and the information that had been provided appeared to do just that.  Snackmagic has deleted apparently appropriate references. - CobaltBlueTony 14:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Snackmagic]]'s blanking edits 

message: Caucasian is not an accurate term to describe all White people. If you click on the Caucasian link, you will see various definitions with precise meanings. Also, the term African American should not be used to describe all Black people, since they don't all live in the USA.Spylab 13:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just want to say great clean-up.  The article finally looks like it belongs in an encyclopedia.Snackmagic 16:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technically correct terms for racial groups 

message: If you want to list people as "wiggers", you need to find someone who says so, even if seems obvious. Read WP:V and WP:RS for details. I've removed unsourced "wiggers". Grace Note 00:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the one who started that section, mainly because there were too many links to people in the "see also" section so I had them separated to make it look a little more organized.. I've wrote "labelled" implying that though they may not conisder themselves to be wiggers, society and the media labelled them as such based on their dress styles and mannerisms. Anonymous
Entries in this section should be deleted unless each can be reasonably sourced (i.e., someone self-identifies, or is labeled as such by a writer or commentator).  It's almost akin to adding "People who have been labeled as idiots" to the Idiot article (though I concede that not everyone thinks that Wigger is a pejorative term). OhNoitsJamie Talk 03:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I've deleted most of the entries as unsourced, with the exception of Westwood (citing the Guardian source) and Marz (I'm trusting that he is indeed a self-proclaimed Wigger). Regarding the other entries, this sort of thing should be sourced; the slippery slope toward arbitrary POV assignment is too easy. OhNoitsJamie Talk 05:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "People that have been labelled as wiggers" section 

message: Should Travis Barker be considered a "wigger", since many fans have accused him for trying to have a black rapper's image and by occasionally playing hip-hop music. What do you think?--Cory pratt 22:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Travis Barker a Wigger? 

message: There were several problems with the old version of the intro, so I fixed them. Those problems should not be reverted, because that leads to a substandard article. First of all, the old version was USA-centric, even though the term has been used in countries other than the United States. Therefore, I changed the USA-centric content, such as the term African American, because black people in other countries are not African Americans. I deleted the bolded section in the following sentence, because it is grammatically incorrect and does not make any sense in the English language: "The word is considered offensive by some because of its similarity to nigger, it may also offend the person's social background and personal history (as it is believed that many "wiggers" grew up in a black environment), and because it reflects stereotypical notions about Urban Black Americans."  There were also other problems with grammar and wording that I corrected.Spylab 10:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with old version of intro 

message: *Wigger (1995)  is a novel by Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite set in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. It explores the class struggle, poverty, prostitution, exploitation of youth, desolation and absence of solidarity in a period of new negrophilia.
—Centrx→talk • 22:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book is a possible candidate for an article 

message: from the main text:
"The term most likely stems from a portmanteau of the word white and the defamatory term nigger."
defamatory? mmm.. not exactly the best word.. kinda offensive..
try "derogatory".. I think it's the one you're after..
Can someone change this? I'm sure most will agree that derogatory identifies the word better than defamatory.
BTW., looked up this term after Chris Rock in Everybody Hates Chris calls his shrimpy lil' friend "my wigga!", Season 3, Episode 12
"pejorative" would be a better word here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.213.86.172 (talk) 03:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defamatory? Wrong word - fix plz 

message: Changed 'Kazza' to 'Kazaa', and 'Limewire' to 'Gnutella', seeing as Gnutella is the actual network, and limewire is just a client. --Smackdat 21:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Network Mixups 

message: I would question the inclusion of blackface minstrelsy as a forerunner of wiggerism.  The impulses behind minstrelsy are different from those of wiggers.  In particular blackface was not affectionate towards blacks and black culture in the same way that wiggers are.  It was also a performance style rather than a lifestyle choice.
I think I need to disagree. I'm not an expert, but I think I know enough to note that blackface can be (and continues to be!) a complex practice that, at one pole, includes affectionate portrayals (however misconstrued) of perceived "Blackness".  See the entry for it, which goes into this. bntrpy 20:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackface Minstrelsy 

message: While I agree that most often you find wiggers in the Middle and Upper Classes, couldn't you also find some wiggers in the lower class as well? Of course upper and middle class wiggers are the most offensive wiggers because they don't have the urban poor experience but shouldn't the sentence "the term wigger is generally used to describe a young, middle or upper-class mimicker of certain affectations of hip hop culture" be changed to "the term wigger is generally used to describe a young, most often middle or upper-class mimicker of certain affectations of hip hop culture" to imply that there could be white poor wiggers as well?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.40.61.100 (talk) 16:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economic Class of the Wigger 

message: You could do like what the Jews do with God.  They write it Dg because they don't believe that the name of God should be Written.  So you could write the Niggers as either niggers or Nigger.
So like in this sentence:
The term is a portmanteau combining the words white and nigger, and it has been used in a derogatory manner. The term wigger is generally used to describe a young, white mimicker of certain affectations of hip hop and thug culture. The word is considered offensive by some because of its similarity to nigger, and because it reflects stereotypical notions about urban blacks.
Or
The term is a portmanteau combining the words white and n_gger, and it has been used in a derogatory manner. The term wigger is generally used to describe a young, white mimicker of certain affectations of hip hop and thug culture. The word is considered offensive by some because of its similarity to n_gger, and because it reflects stereotypical notions about urban blacks.-unsigned
*That should not be done, because it would be confusing and unencyclopedic. It would also be pointless because everyone would still know what word you mean, just as if you were to write "f_ck" instead of fuck. The word nigger exists, has its own Wikipedia article, and should be spelled properly.  Spylab 17:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not censored. --Hojimachongtalkcon 06:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't empower the word by making it "special". Shinji nishizono 00:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And Wikipedia is also not Bowdlerized. --Hojimachongtalk 02:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove the Niggers 

message: Wigger isnt a racist term, because a wigger isnt a race.
:Nigger isnt a racist term, because nigger isnt a raceEAB 08:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually "nigger" is a racist term, simply because it has a negative connotation and is being used as a synonym for an entire ethnicity. "Wigger" on the other hand is a social/cultural identity. Thedeparted123 01:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  this is stupid. 

message: SOMEONE IS STUPID ENOUGH TO SUGGEST MERGING THIS ARTICLE WITH WHITE NIGGER. WIGGER IS A VERY COMMON TERM, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A SO-CALLED WHITE NIGGER. WIGGAS CAN APPLY TO ANY ETHNIC GROUPS BECAUSE IT SOMETIMES STAND FOR WANNABE-NIGGERS, WHITE NIGGER IS NOT ALWAYS THE RIGHT TRANSLATION.--Certified.Gangsta 22:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DO NOT MERGE 

message: Like it or not a lot of people resent wagers because they are trying to become a part of a predominately black subculture. And this is not just from working-class rural rednecks either, it comes from a lot of black kids as well. Black kids that don’t think he grew up around hip-hop culture, and he just adopted it. I guess you guys just can’t relies that stereotypical white people and stereotypical black people can hate another ideology together.  
And to the person who said it was an outright lie that a lot of blacks don’t take offense to the term. Have you ever met a black person. They sure as hell aren’t as sensitive as you yuppies are. There have been instances in class where a black kid thinks I said the “n-word” but doesn’t get mad after realizing I just said “wigger.”
 
Yes, I know it’s hard to believe but in many social circles, racial boundries still exist. And those that cross them are often mocked by all sides. 
And please no-one call me a racist. I’m not saying one race is better than another, I’m just reporting facts about how this term is perceived. And ultimately, in most cases, the only people who are supposed to be offended by it are “wiggers”.
:Question! Who do you mean by "you guys"? There's at least 50 different users (I believe that it's way more) who wrote this article... If you think it's to political correct you can simply change this and see how the rest of the community reacts. / 81.226.131.216 (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  You guys are way too politically correct to be dictating what is put on this site 

message: -Wigger is meant to be an insulting term (against wiggers) used to describe a white person who attempts to develop an identity associated with Hip-Hop culture.
-A “white nigger” is someone who is white but lives a poor, ignorant, violent life. A stereotypical nigger life.
Irish immigrants were called white niggers, I doubt that is because they wanted to be a gangster-rappers. For instance, you could call people in a trailer park with a confederate flag and a Get R’ Done shirt on a white nigger. Yet they probably wouldn’t be a wigger.
And to answer the guy’s question about if he is a wigger because he dresses ghetto fabulous. Well, if you have ever worn South Pole merchandise when you didn’t have to than by average middle-class, 2/3 white, 1/3 black, college town-public high school standards, yes you are a wigger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.29.65.159 (talk) 07:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wigger" and "white nigger" are not the same term 

message: Reading this page for ages, this is  one of the worst versions ever. 
The definition that starts the page should be attributed to advertising/marketing person Marian Salzman, who put the term out with that definition in relation to black hip hop culture. 
The first line of the third paragraph has no source at all.  And the idea that whites imitated blacks AFTER the abolition of slavery is faulty.  The book Love and Theft shows that the cultural appropriations started before the end of slavery. 
The references in popular culture part is okay, but needs tons of citation in the sources.  The actual artist of Weird Al's "I'm a Wigga" has his own myspace page, and can be listed.  The Lady Sovereign track has NOTHING to do with the topic, and is more of a freestyle.  Lester Bang's wasn't close to talking about wiggers in his "white nigger" essay.  If that were the case why isn't John Lennon's "Woman is the Nigger of the World" listed.  Or the book "How the Irish Became White?"  And the book Wigger that is listed isn't even about the topic and isn't a reference in the popular culture. 
This page should be about listing theories, instances, and documentation of Caucasians who are accused of emulating or appropriating black mannerisms seen in American hip hop culture. 
WHY was the website Wigger Lover located at http://wiggerlover.blogs.com/ removed?  
The talk back says it was because it caused the internet program to crashed, but it doesn't happen when I visit the site on my own.  The site actually was somewhat of a wiki.  It may label itself as a blog, but it's more of accurate than this page at times.  It includes links to several definitions, from scholars and artists.  It has tons of outside references and research.  And it appears neutral in listing the documentation in the media and academia on the page...
This page is a mess and should be opened up so some major revisions can be made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JamOnWiki (talk • contribs) 05:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This version is horrible. 

message: In the list, toward the beginning, of white people taking on percieved black traits, Zoot Suiters were included. I think there may have been some white Zoot Suiters, but weren't most of them Hispanic, specifically Mexican?  The "Zoot Suit Riots," for example, involved Mexican-Americans.Nagakura shin8 20:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zoot Suiters weren't white 

message: He may not be the best example- maybe Jamie Kennedy or someone like that. I understand the choice, but a wigger is more of an American character; the British have a similar character in chav; which incorporates unique aspects of the British lower classes into the picture- this may be a better depiction for Ali G.
Ali G as an example is not appropriate at all.  Ali G's character does not make fun of whites who try to act like black people.  If this were the case, he would have the character be overreaching, whiny and insecure.  Instead, the Ali G character is patently uneducated, unintelligent, cocksure, and boorish.  These are commonly held stereotypes of young, urban, African American males, not white kids trying to act black.  I understand that SBC has CLAIMED that it's a parody of whites who act black, but we should not be so naive.  He's parodying people of African descent.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.86.16 (talk) 20:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ali G 

message: I don't think the creation of the gangsta icon can accurately be attributed to blacks- and thus its not really accurate to attribute whites in this capacity as "copying blacks". The original gangsters were Italians in the 20s-60s. This is the category that blacks blatantly copied much of their culture from- everything from trying to look tough, to ideals of dress styles, necklaces, mannerisms, organized gangs, etc- this is the basis for the black gangsta culture. Granted, they took it and added a little to it, such as rap, and some current whites emulate it, but its more complex than to simply claim that whites are emulating blacks, as those blacks emulated other whites....
I read this article and I don't recall it mentioning the word gangsta once. It talks about stereotypes of African American culture. Regardless, mafia and black culture have very little in common. Have you EVER seen any rappers dressing like Italian gangers? Thought so.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.7.183 (talk) 03:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangsta 

message: I have heard these terms used to describe white youth who emulate the middle-class black lifestyle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.27.203.131 (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weegro/Wafrican-American 

message: User:Wassermann and User:Spylab are edit warring about the inclusion of :Category:African-American topics, with no input whatever on the talkpage. This is bad practice, see Wikipedia:Edit warring. Edit summaries are not a discussion forum. Please take the disagreement to this talkpage so other people can join in and there's a chance for consensus. And don't revert each other any more until editors of the page have come to some agreement. I'd rather not adminprotect the page, which would stop all editing, or block the editors involved, but I will if I have to. Please be aware of the WP:3RR rule, and note especially that the rule 
does not convey an entitlement to revert three times each day, nor does it endorse reverting as an editing technique; rather, the rule is an "electric fence". Editors may still be blocked even if they have not made more than three edits in any given 24 hour period, if their behavior is clearly disruptive... The bottom line: use common sense, and do not participate in edit wars. Rather than reverting multiple times, discuss the matter with other editors. If an action really needs reverting that much, somebody else will probably do it.  Bishonen | talk 10:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, no problem here w/ Spylab -- I just didn't understand his/her reversions, since "Wigger" is a topic that has something to do with African-Americans (albeit indirectly), and thus I sought to explain why I thought the category was valid in the edit summaries. I'm trying to group as many disparate topics dealing with African-Americans that aren't already categorized as such under this broad and miscellaneous 'topics' category. No big deal...go ahead and take "Wigger" out if you think that it doesn't fit (even though it does, of course).  --Wassermann 20:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring about [[:Category:African-American topics]] 

message: He describes himself and other punk rockers as “white niggers,” not wiggers. The terms have different connotations. “Wiggers” are white people who emulate aspects of hip hop culture, while being a “white nigger” only constitutes violence, ignorance, poverty and irresponsibility. And while some punk rockers are labeled “white niggers” within this context, very few of them are emulating hip hop culture. Therefore, they are not wiggers. Thedeparted123 01:21, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. While I'm not sure if the Lester Bangs ref belongs or not, I don't believe "violence, ignorance, poverty and irresponsibility" was what Bangs was denoting by his use of the term "white nigger".  Rather, it was a description of someone outside the mainstream of status quo "white" society.  The entry for him has a note about this, under "Legacy", correctly linking it to Norman Mailer's essay The White Negro: Superficial Reflections on the Hipster.  Obviously, the many connotations of the word "nigger", and of slang in general, are bound up with the problem of defining the word "wigger" and its status (insulting? satirical? a statement of a sort of fact?) bntrpy 20:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lester Bangs reference should be removed 

message: I came to this page hoping to find a citation for a long-ago science fiction story about an alternate universe where blacks were the dominant class and whites were the persecuted slaves.  In that story whites were called "whiggers", I guess just to make the analogy more obvious. 
Unfortunately, I don't have more data than that. 
Aliza250 (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early use in a Science Fiction story 

message: Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish, so it's debatable whether he should be considered white or of European descent as described in the article.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ali G picture 

message: I agree "wigger" as a modern term for 'white nigger' (white who adopts urban black cultural style/speech etc) and the historic use of the term "white nigger" are different. "White nigger" are used in the "Irish are not white" ideas of certain times in the past among English and anglo-saxon types. "Italians" have also been called "white niggers", it is related to the term any white who is dark eyed & or haired or complexion is "black" (just not black skinned) this is continued in certain terms like Swedish "Swartskalle" (black headed) or the English term wog. 67.5.160.29 (talk) 09:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  agree with the "wigger" does not equal "white nigger" terminology historically enough for this encyclopedia entry 

message: I added the word "pejorative" so as to make the opening sentence now read, "... is a pejorative slang term...". Regardless of how common the word "wigger" (or any of its corruptions) is thrown around in certain circles, I don't think anyone can adequately argue that the term is in good nature and socially acceptable, bereft of any derogatory insinuation. BostonFenian (talk) 19:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added "Pejorative" to opening sentence 

message: anyone agree with me? he said it in The Way I Am..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.103.180 (talk) 12:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem is a wigger 

message: I think a section should be created to address the 'wannabe-nigger' definition and to add 'chigger' (chinese/asian-nigger)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chigger
99.226.76.35 (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  variations 

message: I've noticed that everyone seems to ignore minority racism. We have Black Pride Month, Hispanic Pride Month, but if we had White Pride Month it wouldn't be allowed because it's considered racist. I've also noticed that minority racist terms towards whites aren't semi-protected articles on Wikipedia. Why?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.239.87 (talk) 20:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly in the US where this phenomenon is apparent, white people are the majority, so your statement is essentially nonsense.Gymnophoria (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm an idiot who likes to answer 9 months old comments made by IPs so i can wikiaccumulate wikiedits.190.51.146.197 (talk) 15:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't the terms honky and cracker racist? 

message: 1. It's basically saying the N-Word, even if you're not saying the N-Word you're still saying that this white person is a black N-Word.
2. It suggest that all black people are N-Words and they are all gangsta which is obviously not true.
3. Kind of like what I said for #2, I'd like to state that it's implying that "hip-off" is only for N-Word(s), which isn't true. I guess African American invented it but that's no reason other cultures can't take part in it or that black people who like it are N-Word(s)
4. Post Deleted for Racial stereotyping
Deleted for Racial Stereotyping
Deleted for being a fag
But your opinion is irrelevant. 24.144.14.84 (talk) 02:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't the term wigger racist? 

message: Roger Corman's 1959 film "Bucket of Blood" has two beatnik characters referring to the protagonist of the film, Walter, as a "Wigger."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bucket_of_Blood
please include since editing for thsi article is closed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.253.128.7 (talk) 20:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  cultural reference "Bucket of Blood" movie 

message: I believe the term "White Nigger" is used by Costello in this song as a reference to Catholic Irish. Guv2006 (talk) 11:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elvis Costello - Oliver's Army 

message: "In his 2010, debut feature film, "Wigger", writer/director Dr. Omowale Akintunde, noted academician and Black Studies scholar, explores the "wigger phenomenon.  The film chronicles the life of a young, White, lower class, aspiring R&B singer named Brandon (portrayed by newcomer, David Oakes).  The film examines his efforts to transcend poverty, an overtly racist father, and his "whiteness" in an attempt to become an R&B superstar who is accepted as authentic in urban black America.  Brandon has an African American best friend, Antoine (portrayed by Eric B Harvey).  Antoine acts as Brandon's agent.  They are determined that the two of them can overcome their dismal North Omaha, Nebraska existences and fulfill their dreams of being successful as a performer/agent team in the recording industry.  Despite the admonitions of his mother (portrayed by veteran actress, Anna Maria Horsford) that he is wasting his business administration degree by selling Brandon's cd's on the corner, Antoine is persistent in his quest to catapult he and Brandon into a world of wealth and fame.  A chance meeting with a record agent (portrayed by Emmy-nominated star, Meshach Taylor) provides the opportunity of a lifetime.  However, opportunities come with a price.  This film dramatically examines race, class, gender, White privilege, and institutionalized racism against the backdrop of an explosive r&b and hip-hop soundtrack.  Sarah Dash of the legendary R&B group, Labelle, is also a featured guest performer in the film.  Unlike previous film treatments such as "Malibu's Most Wanted" which were comedic in tone, "Wigger" is a serious examination of urbanity, "whiteness", and what it means to be outside the dominant epistemological norms in modern American society.
References:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1625886/
http://www.omaha.com/article/20090725/NEWS01/707259918
http://www.nyfa.com/film-school-blog/film-school-graduate-omowale-akintunde-feature-film-wigger-exposes-serious-race-problem/
www.unomaha.edu/blst
www.wiggerthefilm.com
Omowale1 (talk) 07:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: I uncommented the request. Avicennasis @ 07:39, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The above request would knock the balance of the article, giving undue weight to this specific film. We do not appear to have an article on the film at present; if it is notable, then an article could be created about it, and that would be the appropriate place for such detail. Note, however, it would need to be neutral - and  etc. are not neutral in tone. If a mention is to be added to this article, it would need to be shorter and more factual.  Chzz  ►  13:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Omowale1, 11 April 2010 

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Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pending changes 

message: "The term is a portmanteau of either wannabe or white and nigger." Or, alternately, white nigga. It's all good. But annoying.GXIndiana (talk) 01:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some of us prefer wigga 

message: I've proposed this article for deletion since it appears to be a wp:coatrack for the pejorative term "white nigger".  It also appears to be wp:synthesis since there is no clear connection in the references between the term "wigger" (person who emulates an African American's style and culture) and the term "white nigger" (group of white people who are marginalized within their own culture, such as Irish Catholics).  These problems have persisted since the article was last proposed for deletion in 2010.  The topic of this article has come to prominence with the recent notoriety of Rachel Dolezal.  It's important, therefore, to remove the article promptly unless these serious concerns are addressed.--Nowa (talk) 13:46, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No strong feelings either way. I do, however, believe the slang meets WP:NOTABILITY just fine, but it might be hard finding good sources to improve the article. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 15:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed deletion

message: I see some good references are popping up.  I found this one by Crispin Sartwell.  Does anyone have access to the full copy?--Nowa (talk) 20:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: References