Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion/Archive 1

message: Who wants to add the Evangelion to the List of fictional robots and androids? Or does it not count? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.220.11.136 (talk • contribs) .
:Why not, fits with the article description. -- KaranJ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.68.145.223 (talk • contribs) .
::Keep in mind, however, that the Eva isn't technically a robot; if anything, you should at least point out that it's a cyborg. -- anonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.114.20.121 (talk • contribs) .
:::Eh, I agree with calling it a cyborg at the very least, but that's a cheap shot given the extent of what amounts to a locked-down being used as weapon or a tool. -Resonance Cascade —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gibson Cowboy (talk • contribs) .
::::It isn't a cyborg.  It's more like a human/beast, not mechanical like.  --Nickmaster 01:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated on the coment before this one, Evas are more like human. The mechanical parts attached to them are just there to keep them under control of the pilot and supply them with the energy required to 'work'. Keep in mind this energy is just required not because they are some kind of robots, but because they actually have no souls, wich makes them stay in a deep coma state all the time. (with exception of unit 01, wich actually had a soul, that explains all the times the unit moved without proper energy supply or a pilot; this also explains why the unit can achieve the frenesi state known as berserk) So, that's my vote, I'm against stating the series as a giant robot sci-fi series. ~Nih 21:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add to list 

message: I plan to add a few new things to this group of pages. I'm a pretty big fan of NGE, and while I don't claim to know everything, I think I know quite enough to be able to add to the page. I do have a few 'personal quirks' in my way of writing about the series which some may disagree with, so if anyone considers my style or my changes to be less than ideal, I'm happy to discuss it, or, if we can't reach a mutual agreement, to simply withdraw from adding to the page. 
I've no intentions of vandalising the work of others, but a lot more could usefully be added to these pages. I'd appreciate hearing from the more established contributors to this page, to discuss my intentions. I'll be adding my changes gradually. --Soluzar
:It would be interesting if there was a episode summary which details the development of the series episode by episode. -sec5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.160.24.109 (talk • contribs) .
::That would be beyond the scope of Wikipedia.  For that sort of thing, go to one of the external pages dedicated to NGE.  --dunerat 10:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, and South Park has a lot more episodes - would it really be too much to have an article for each NGE episode? --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 07:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions and Expansions 

message: Well, I think it's just both of them:
The existentialism of all the characters' generates the pessimism of the society. Because they are all maladjusted by destiny, they got angst and depression and sadness and trauma and wrath and hopelessness and became existentialistic. And that's why they behave like hedgehogs and let the world become a "hell, and on the one hand the humans are the hurted souls and on the other hand the devils in it." (Schopenhauer). That's why existentialism and pessimism are so similar (Sartre: "Hell, that's allways the others!")
And that "heaven" (the LCL) is very similar to the buddhistic Nirvana and that's similar to Schopenhauer's Nothing. Because buddhism and pessimism are very similar to each other ("Life is pain. Pain is obsession=will"), what Schopenhauer himself recognized (often he named himself a "buddhaist").
So we all are right.
And their's even more: 
*there is the "original sin" of Aurelius Augustinus
*there the humans try to reach God by using technology, and that referres to Thomas Aquinas (logic and faith both come from God, so that they never are an antagonism) and to Nietzsches "Übermensch"
*there is the monadology of Leibniz, because Shinji is caught by LCL with body and soul. Human body consists of normal physical matter (atoms and quants). In the monadology monads are "soul-atoms" or "soul-quants", which can manifest on the one hand as deat atoms building dead matter ("blank monads") and as the human soul ("soul monads"). Does anything come from LCL? Dead matter als well as souls, runified in the human body?
*without monadification the LCL referres to Spinoza's origin substance
*there is Hegel's weltgeist: The weltgeist (God) lost himself, created the world and the humans (mankind left paradise=origin sin) but will find himself at least by creating a perfect world (reunification of mankind)
*Misatos quote of dream and reality in EoE referres to solipsism and Johann Gottlieb Fichte
*and it referres to Sloterdijks "spherology", where everyone lives in his own world, his own sphere
--Hattakiri 14:45, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Combinationism" 

message: Wouldn't you say the fact of the Evangelions being "biomechanical" would a spoiler? -anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.228.5 (talk • contribs) .
:My sense is, anyone who hasn't seen Eva will probably overlook it. --Eraboin 4 July 2005 04:36 (UTC)
::We are made aware that the Evas are biomechanical from the very first episode.  The extent and reason is not made clear until later on.  Stating the reason for them being biomechanical would be a spoiler, however. --theevamonkey July 12th, 2005 10:48 PM EST
:::I don't think that this really counts as a spoiler. The English translation clearly states that they are 'artificial lifeforms', and one is seen bleeding, right from the opening moments.
The significane of them being biomechanical might be a spoiler, but the fact that they are, isn't a spolier in itself --Perfect Blue 97
Agreed, the average Wikipedia user will probably go "Wow, Biomechanical. Thassa cool word." 'Cuz, like, that's what I do every time I read it. Onslaught Six 06:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biomechanic... 

message: i've watched the show couple of times and besides from the most talked episodes, i am always curious on the way Shinji was treated. it always seemed to be looping. kinda like a This_sentence_is_false type liar paradox (i hope i am using the right example)
for instence, they would ask shinji to pilot the EVA if shinji refuses, they will probably say he is running away from things, if he agrees, then they will say he agrees with everything and they are not forcing him to. and if he says that he does want to pilot it, they will be like .. oh be yourself or something (you guys know what i am trying to get at)
so i guess i am asking, if i am the only one that sees that? or is there some kind of explanation to it?  thx, --Mint Greentea 09:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess was always that it was an extension of the Hedgehog's Dilemna there. --Maru 01:55, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conversation paradoxes 

message: There are individuals who insist on alienating information provided by the Red Cross Book , and edit accordingly. As valid an action as this is, I feel that some Evangelion articles have been made too cluttered and messy because of this (take, for example, the Rei Ayanami article), and deliberations for the consequential offshoots of such different views begin to stem endlessly. The current product appears to be a disorganized ramble of RCB concepts v.s. anti-RCB concepts. This, in my humble opinion, is not a pretty sight.
It should become our responsibility to finally clarify, for the readers, all affected articles to be more clean and concise; I think this can be achieved by deciding, once and for all, whether or not information included in the Red Cross Book be regarded to be part of the story that this part of the encyclopedia is concerned with, so to speak.
I believe this part of the encyclopedia should be concerned with the story of Neon Genesis Evangelion established by GAINAX. As you may be aware, various 'alternate universe' spin-offs were also created by GAINAX, so all this should be concerned with the original 'universe' created by GAINAX. One thing we definitely know to be part of this is every sequence, scene and shot of the original 26 episode series. The director's cuts, we also consider to be 'in', although it is treated as more trivial; but what has been extended and added is considered to reveal more of what is Evangelion. The manga, meanwhile, is treated as quite seperate from the anime, and only is mentioned where relevant and contains certain information not found in the anime (with a note saying something along the lines of "this is from the manga"). And now, what of direct quotes and comments on Evangelion from Anno, himself? Well, this sort of thing, although not found to be explicitly shown in any other material, is entirely embraced. You take the last line of The End of Evangelion, for example. At first, it seems it could mean anything, and no one could really tell; then when information regarding this from the creator is reported, we all would suddenly accept and go "ohhh!".
But, finally, how should the Red Cross Book be treated? It is officially issued by GAINAX to go with the original 'universe', it has been personally approved by Anno and staff, it has even been revised, it appears to support everything already established in the series, it appears to extend on particular subjects, it contains some information not explicitly shown in the other materials, it goes on.
By considering the Red Cross Book part of the story that this part of the encyclopedia is concerned with, we can revise the articles that need the most help, and leave the articles which already incorperate the RCB in its exposition. No longer may articles have to be left as a wild quid v.s. quo comparison of ideas representing a position of great narrative significance; it can finally be made to state the official word, then maybe the alternative as a side note. Order can be restored.
From the individuals I've observed, here are the arguments against the Red Cross Book:
*Some errors were found, and in contradiction to the series (now, corrected)
Whoops, sorry, I was expecting more than one point when I set out to write the list. (I'm sorry, I wasn't intending to be funny if that's what was thought, I was genuinely surprised and expected at least three points, but I couldn't find any more than the above after ten minutes of searching — this is the first time it's happened to me.)
In the end, don't virtually all good Eva fans consider the Red Cross Book canon?
A good concensus is needed on this matter, as we finally resolve the Red Cross Book issue. Put your voice on this page, so we can finally decide on it. Thank you. -Anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.228.4 (talk • contribs) .
:I know less about this than I would like, but as near as I can tell, we should treat the RCB as canon. --Maru  (talk) Contribs 23:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, the Red Cross Book was endorsed by GAINAX. As far as I'm concerned, that's the bottom line. Druff 18:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resolving the RCB issue, once and for all 

message: On the section where you discuss Biblical allusions and mention "Eva" being linked to Eve as in Adam and Eve I then looked for "Lilith" which is also in the series. Couldn't find mention of the fAct that some believe Lilith preceded Eve so was in fact the actual first woman. Wondered how the naming of Lilith in the series corresponded to this idea?
Cheers. --Anon
:I always figured it was because Lilith preceded the creation of the Evas, much as the Rabbaic Lilith preceded Eve. --maru  (talk) Contribs 17:51, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lilith 

message: Has anyone noticed the parallels between NGE and Secrets of the blue water. I recently came across a site with a wealth of corresponding aspects of both series. It seems to have some merit to it and considering that gainax published both series, it seems entirely possible that the same people may have been responsible for both of the epics. The site is []http://www.thesecretofbluewater.com/nadieva-i.htm. Does anyone know anything that could disprove this theory? If so please respond.
                                              71.51.72.159 18:48, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's no secret that Nadia/Blue Water was one of Anno Hideaki's previous anime series. Druff 18:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parallels to secrets of blue water

message: Under the Characters Section, there are numerous examples of how three characters are thought to represent so and so. Is there any justification for this? One that I don't see is the Trinity one. 128.6.175.96 20:28, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure, but I might have the answer about Trinity.  The Trinity is made of God, the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit.  Gendo is God.  He is in charge of everything in NERV and has jurediction over Shinji and Rei.  Shinji is the son of god, the son of Gendo.  Rei is the Holy Spirit.  I can't really think why, but she just seems to fit.  --Nickmaster 01:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Rei can definitely be seen as the Holy Spirit because of the fact that she seems to be an Angel, or Angel-like, but she is benevolent. --NorkNork 16:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Representations 

message: In the End of Evangelion around 6:54 into epidode 25' (AIR), Misato admits to discovering why the second impact truly happened.  The information she found - presumably from the capsule that Kaji gave her - only flashes up on the screen for a few frames before being replaced by "DELETED".  On the VHS tapes, the quality was low enough so that the information in Kaji's findings was not legible.  However, with the release of the DVD version most if not all of the text on the entire page is legible.  It starts off with "1. A group comprised primarily of college students living in and around Osaka got together to put on GEHIRN, the ADAM ???tion".  At first glance, the text seems to be nonsense, but upon further inspection it seems like a hidden message may be present.  Phrases like "Building on this experience, the core members of the con's staff opened 'SECOND IMPACT', an ADAM specialty shop, in SECOND IMPACT."  Nonsense when read literally, but the occurance of SECOND IMPACT twice in the sentence in two unlikely places seems to be intentionally wrong.  There is also a large block of binary code in the file, though I cannot seem to decode it in any logical form.  There are five blocks of seven rows with ten columns, giving 350 binary digits.  Unfortunately 350 is not divisible by 8 evenly, so a simple binary->ASCII conversion yields nothing.  Does anyone else have any ideas on what this file may be referring to or what the binary code means? Skyfire360 06:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming that the binary is not simply random jibberish, it would probably be encoded in terms of kabbalic gematria. Good luck finding one of the binary schemes- they were fairly rare. --maru  (talk) contribs 07:29, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Could be anything at all, really. Random filler including a few keyphrases meant to appear legit upon cursory inspection, in-jokes in the vein of the easter eggs in Star Trek's Okudagrams, a hidden message to die-hard fans willing to piece it together or, likelier still, gibberish meant to look like a hidden message and thereby cause said fans to spend hour after futile hour analyzing just what it might mean. I know I will. Now that's good anime! 85.65.93.171 04:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Kaji's findings are actually a reedited version of the synopsis for Otaku no Video, IIRC. I believe it might actually be box copy from Animeigo's release or a synopsis/review from either one of the big anime clubs or one of the first English anime magazines, like Viz's Animerica or Protoculture Addicts. I'll have to go through Usenet again, but I'm pretty sure it was English text appropriated by Gainax to fluff out some screens. --YoungFreud 01:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I'm wrong. It's actually a reedited article on the history of Gainax, however, I'm not exactly sure where the source was original from. --YoungFreud 01:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaji's Findings 

message: 221.116.97.229 deleted the following passage from the article:
*Shinji, Rei, and Asuka represent the Ego, Superego and Id
*The Magi Supercomputers thought as a Mother/Balthasaur Ego, a Scientist/Melchoir superego, and Woman/Casper Id.
*Rei and Asuka represent the Thanatos and Eros drives in Shinji's psyche, Shinji himself represents the Destrudo
*Shinji, Rei, and Asuka represent the Japanese gods Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Ama-no-Uzume
*Shinji, Rei, and Asuka are respective archetypes of three personality disorders: avoidant (cluster C), schizoid (cluster A), and narcissistic (cluster B).
*Rei, Shinji, and Asuka represent the three categories of Despair according to Søren Kierkegaard
* The five children each represent the 5 stages of Death: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. 
*Gendo, Shinji, and Rei represent the three parts of the Christian Trinity
*Shinji and Asuka represent Orient and Occident
*Ritsuko and Misato represent the Antagonism of intellect and emotion
*Ritsuko represents the industrialised and technocratic north, while Misato stands for the rural south
*The head of SEELE was thought as the Wandering Jew who desired death after living for so long. It was also meantioned in the voice director's comments on DVD in the movie Death and Rebirth.
*Toji and Kensuke represent pacifism and militarism
*Toji and Kensuke are a parody on Harry S. Truman and Douglas MacArthur
*Entire City was mapped out like a Brain, with names inside Central Dogma named after pyschological properties.
The deletion was on the ground of the information not being valid. However, the article states that these are hypotheses on what the character relations might represent, not facts. I believe that this information is important, and it is not represented as fact. That these interpretations do exist, however, is a fact, and an important one IMHO. Therefore I have restored the section. Please discuss. --NorkNork 18:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Without some sort of source, it's suspiciously like original research, though. Circeus 17:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, does anyone have a source on this? --NorkNork 19:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry for my late replying. I am a Japanese NGE fan and often discuss NGE on fan's BBS. In Japan many guidebooks which was not authorized by GAINAX had been published for 1996-2000. They suggested many  interpretations of NGE like above information. Some of these had a great influensce on quite a few fans. Now, however, most of these are considered no worth discussing. Although someone may find such ideas in NGE,  those ideas don't give any merits for other people in watching NGE: moreover bring harmful influence. So Japanese NGE fans deal with only objective evidences such as interviews for stuffs, in public places like Wikipedia. If I write an article "Shinji, Rei, and Asuka represent the Ego, Superego and Id." in Japanese  Wikipedia, someone immediately deletes it for the reason "The article is subjective.". -221.116.97.229 08:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Respectfully disagreed. I find most of the hypotheses here implausible, as well, but the fact remains that these are all popular interpretations. Evangelion and its symbolism have evoked a truly staggering amount of interpretation over the years, and including this handful of (mostly exclusive) hypotheses is an excellent way of highlighting this, so long as it remains clear that there is no consensus on any of these points. Some items on that list could use editing, though, or just flat-out removal. For instance, "The Magi Supercomputers thought as a Mother/Balthasaur Ego, a Scientist/Melchoir superego, and Woman/Casper Id" is (1) clumsily phrased and (2) not a hypothesis at all, it is explicitly stated within the show, on several occasions. "*Entire City was mapped out like a Brain, with names inside Central Dogma named after pyschological properties" is half explicitly-stated fact (the latter half), and half speculation of a sort which has nothing to do with interpreting symbolism. Which is what the section in question was about, unless I'm mistaken. Re: NorkNork, there won't be a single source covering all of these interpretations, but there will likely be a dozen or so dealing with each. 85.65.93.171 04:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding changes made by [[User Talk:221.116.97.229|221.116.97.229]] 

message: :The popular theory among otakus in Japan, who grew up watching military anime which reflect National Shintoist perspective...
What are these animes? -59.143.134.204 16:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can either add a  after the phrase in question to point that there are no sources about that statement, or you can just delete it. As it is already documented in this Talk page, anyone who can confirm with verifiable sources will be able to add it again. -- ReyBrujo 19:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, thank you ReyBrujo for your kind advise! Well, I tried to comprehend the sentence anyway, tried to read between the lines, but I just seem to fail. I don't know of "military anime that reflects Shintoism" and although  there probably exist some Japanese fans who say about cultural philosophies, but that can't be a "popular theory" anyway - and what contries' philosophies are there to struggle to win described in this anime? So I decided to delete the sentence. --221.170.194.107 14:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What military anime? 

message: I fixed a lot of grammar issues in this section... and removed this line from the line-item area at the bottom of it:
*Entire City was mapped out like a Brain, with names inside Central Dogma named after psychological properties.
Can someone (who has gotten more sleep than me perhaps) investigate/clarify/mend this sentence?
Kether83 06:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters section 

message: Where does the info on the NERV logo being half a fig leaf come from? For some reason, I always thought it was an oak leaf. --maru  (talk) contribs 20:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NERV logo 

message: Hi,
The Keel Lorenz character is being added to and removed from the Wandering Jew page almost on a weekly basis, which is getting annoying.  My personal feeling is that he belongs there and should stay, but I'm no NGE expert qualified to make the case.  I was wondering if someone who is could pop over here:  Talk:Wandering_Jew and spell out the significance of the character and why he's an important variant on the Wandering Jew legend.  Thanks! -- Richfife 22:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keel Lorenz = Wandering Jew 

message: Why is the sentence "As such, the hard 'g' pronunciation ought to be considered correct." included? The article does a good job explaining why the Greek word is mispronounced in the anime.  Why does it go from there to then making the judgement that the mispronouncement is actualy the "correct" pronouncement for us English speakers when talking about the show? Spejic 23:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: :"The Tree of Sephiroth (Tree of Life)—an illustration of ten orbs showing the relationship between heaven and earth—is also mentioned."
It's more than mentioned, it's shown in the opening credits of every episode, and outlined on the floor of the SEEL 'meeting' room. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.227.207.185 (talk • contribs) 
:I think mentioned is a fair summary, as it is never anymore than shown; visually mentioned, if you will. --maru   (talk)  contribs 19:10, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tree of Sephiroth more than 'mentioned'

message: The methodology the Japanese Wiki folks are using is to read what Anno published (ie.schizoevangelion) so that people don't have controversies about what each characters are representing, whether some symbols are intentional or not. Yes Evangelion is a universal entertainment, it speaks for many people, I value everybody's interpretation (And anno WROTE that he wanted Evangelion to mirror infinate things) but wouldn't you be interested in what Anno's world of representations is like and how he reads it? Wouldn't you like to know for sure what sources he admits he used instead of assuming, judging...etc?
If anybody thinks this maybe helpful, I will start translating some quotes by Anno that I can find (I need some help with English Grammer).
:I believe you can qoute foriegn languages as valid citations, but it is best if you could find an official translation. You can paraphrase and cite the foreign language. This should go through as valid reference. --Guille2015 01:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why don't you use Anno's books as sources 

message: Given that most of the espiodes were released with a Parental Guidance certification, is this paragraph really appropriate?
"The unedited / DVD versions are recommended only for ages 15 and up due to scenes of violence, emotional trauma, and sexual themes."
This is POV, and contradicts the certification.
--82.34.112.4 11:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I thought it was 14 and up for the original unedited but I think that was mostly due to the intense situations and in D+R and EOE the sexual references, although In the earlier ones there are some vague sexual references as well. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 19:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  appropriateness? 

message: I'm wondering if mecha is really an appropriate Genre description (see infobox on right side of article) since on the surface it is about mecha but... well I don't want to discuss spoilers but anyone who's seen the entire series knows what I mean about it being a fairly innacurate categorization. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 19:17, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Evangelion is usually classified as Drama, Mecha, Military, Psychological, Science fiction, and Shounen acording to ANN. I would say that either Mecha or Science Fiction seem like the best options for genre. If possible include both. But i dont wish to overpopulate the infobox with genres. --Guille2015 01:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre info 

message: Is Neon Genesis Evangelion: Platinum Collection the most complete and 'best' English collection currently available? I feel it would be very beneficial to give the title of the 'best' collection, just as ISBN numbers are often given for books to help readers locate and purchase them. Many visitors interested in Neon Genesis Evangelion would definately find this information very very helpful. 4.89.247.203 00:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Gainax has been milking Evangelion for years with this selection and that collection. Even the movies. They made several versions of the same thing -death & rebirth & revival & end of evangelion, etc. Endless milking through games as well. (Wikimachine 12:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  best collection 

message: what is this "fan service" that is spoken of in the Adult Swim previews for the next episode?
:See Fan service, paying especial attention to the section on sexual content. --maru   (talk)  contribs 22:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that 'Sexual' is a bit too strong a word. Most of the NGE fanservice is Misato bending over in tight shorts, smutty but not sexual. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Perfectblue97 (talk • contribs) .
There is a fair bit of nudity in the series from all of the major female characters (moreso in the Director's Cuts of eps. 21-24 in Asuka's case) and Shinji as well, and there are some suggestive scenes, although very little could be interpreted as purely sexual in nature, and those that could be interpreted as such are usually the most tame.  End of Evangelion and the manga are more explicit than the series, especially in terms of showing anatomical correctness. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 03:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  fan service? 

message: The article states that 10 volumes of the NGE manga have been completed, but VIZ Media's website only lists the first nine.  Is there a source for info on the 10th volume?  Willbyr (talk • contribs) 01:28, May 21, 2006 (UTC).
:Yes, 10 volumes were completed, but only 9 volumes were translated into English. (Wikimachine 12:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see...is volume 10 going to be translated anytime soon? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 04:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Evangelion manga

message: (Danraz 11:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: influences of NGE on media 

message: I think that the international versions need to be either moved to a seperate page or completely deleted. This is extra information that does not comply for a FA article. Consequently also taking the ratings with it. --Guille2015 01:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: international versions

message: About the Human Instrumentality Project. In episode 26 (English Version), one part of it is labeled "The Beast that Shouted 'I' at the Heart of the World". Seeing as the purpose of the project is to merge all humans into one (mentioned in episode 25 by Misato, albiet in a blunt manner), and 26 focuses on Shinji, that pretty much confirms that Shinji would have rejected it, or at least cast a lot of evidence towards that outcome. It's not mentioned in this article about the ending, should it be? 141.150.154.243 15:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure that that title is an Instrumentality reference? I thought it was a reference to a Harlan Ellison story. --maru   (talk)  contribs 18:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no need to speculate. In the alternate ending, you can see what happens. -- ReyBrujo 19:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why hasn't this been noted? 

message: Going to need another sub-article. I'd do it, but I'm tired and I don't want to have to translate word by word. -_---SeizureDog 14:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New NGE game in the works. 

message: Looking around the article, I didn't know where to add this, so I'll just mention it here for someone involved in this page - I've just heard that ADV in the US is re-releasing Eva for the 5th time, on a single-run limited edition to come with every single extra thing they can think of.. for $299 o_o. -Goldom (t) (Review) 01:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New DVD release 

message: If memory serves me, but didn't this show appear on the Sci-Fi network a long time before Adult Swim adopted it? Fllmtlchcb 08:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debut 

message: I find that the article can be considerably reduzed in size. The following seccions can be condensed:
*Characters
*Plot summary
*Response
*Influences
*Translation Notes
I dont mean that they should be deleted, just condensed and/or moved to a seperate page if the seccion is that important. Also, it will be good to have a template for this page to place the characters and other information for easy access. --Guille2015 14:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a navigation template already. And you're right, the article is too big. I would go farther however and say that much of what you identify probably can and should be cut per WP:OR.--Monocrat 16:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is Big