Talk:History of conversion of Jews to Islam

message: This article was nominated for deletion on 2 January, 2007.  A record of the discussion can be found here.  The consensus was that the article should be kept, with a strong contingent supporting renaming.  Tomertalk 19:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another failed AfD for this article... 

message: Suggestions? crz crztalk 19:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changing the name

message: You know I realise there's a lot more similarity between Judaism and Islam than Judaism and Christianity - firstly, it's to do with the concept of God. As we know, Jews and Muslims believe in a pure monotheistic form of god - the Oneness of God. Yet, Christians, on the other hand (and I don't mean to be discriminatory but just stating the truth) state that God is Three in One. In other words, worshipping Jesus as the Son of God since that he represents God along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. To me it doesn't seem like the Oneness of God. Secondly, Halal and Kosher. Though I cannot find proof that the Jews ask God for the blessing of the slaughtering of animals for eating, I notice that both have similar procedures using sharp knives and that only live animals can be slaugthered for eating - since that eating dead animals is not considered healthy. I know for sure that both religions practise male circumcision widely. Anything else that I'm missing? --Fantastic4boy 03:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without opining on whether you're right or wrong, remember that this is an encyclopedia. Let's stick to facts, reliable sources, and history, and avoid pop-theology, comparisons, or sectarianism of any kind. We're unlikely to all agree here. - crz crztalk 03:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything Fanta4boy mentions is parts of Judaism watered down and adopted by Islam.  That's hardly either spectacular or article-worthy.  Christianity also borrowed and watered down a lot of things from Judaism...more things, in fact, than Islam did.  In any case, no matter how "interesting" an individual editor might find the subject, similarities between Judaism and any other religion are completely irrelevant to this article.  Tomertalk 05:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Similarities between Islam and Judaism

message: This article should be changes to contain a nore neutral point of view...right now it seems to present all jews who convert to islam as forced. There is no evidence to support this.
:Yes, I agree with you. It seems bias to say that all Jews who are now practicing the Islamic faith were forcibly converted to that religion. Yes, it is true that there are some extreme Muslim dynasties such as the Safavids and some (if not all) of the Ottoman rulers, but how about those who voluntarily converted to Islam such as those seen in the early years of Muslim Spain adn those in moderate Muslim nations. You see the Koran clearly states in Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow) 2:256 there is "no compulsion in religion" and in Surah Al-Kafirun (The Disbelievers) "onto you be your religion, and onto me be my religion". So, it can't be that all of them were forcibly converted to this religion. People like Joseph Cohen (Yusuf Al-Khatab), a former New Yorker Kew who now lives in Israel, converted to Islam voluntarily. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.15.122.35 (talk) 22:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not bias at all since more Jews were converted to Islam by force than by choice.Oren.tal 22:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutral Point of View?

message: All this article look like Islamic propaganda.
I don't believe there are place in wikipedia for such thing.
I am also wondering if there are article like conversation from Islam to Christianity?There is NO.
I suggest to erase this article.
It was  created as propaganda and it is of no value except for some people that try to do propaganda.
Ir it is not erased I also suggest to create article about conversation from Islam to Christianity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oren.tal (talk • contribs) 
:I agree. It does seem like propaganda. You are more than welcome to nominate it for an AFD. Hopefully it will be deleted.--SefringleTalk 05:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islamic propaganda 

message: I see something problematic with the existence of this article as-is. It seems apparent to me that this is a rather clunky topic that doesn't really have a strong foundation. It's not so much that the topic isn't based in reality, but the existence of the page seems rather contrived, when it would be more appropriately placed as a section at the page Judaism and Islam. 
This becomes especially apparent when one notes the fact that this entire article is nothing more than a section with an introductory sentence and a paragraph of unsourced information which really doesn't say much of any importance (and is poor in comparison to the thorough elaboration on the issue and the context provided by the proposed  destination article). Beyond this lone, meaty section, it has a short and rather trivial section on modern conversions which does little else but re-list names found on actual convert lists.
The relevant information within this article would be entirely appropriate within this section, and would elucidate on a topic which seems somewhat neglected there. Again, I don't believe there is any reason that this contrived topic deserves an anemic article when it has more relevance in use within an article dealing with the relation between the two religions. In summary, I propose that the information within History of conversion of Jews to Islam be merged into the "Historical interaction" section of Judaism and Islam.--C.Logan (talk) 12:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent idea; please do it, and convert this one into a redirect. -- Gabi S. 19:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did it. -- Gabi S. 19:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for taking the initiative.--C.Logan 20:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal