Talk:Ossewabrandwag

message: The definitive book on the OBs is "OBs: Traitors or Patriots?" by George Cloete Visser ISBN: 0869540300. The author was a police officer who was in charge of investigating the OBs during WW2. This Wiki article is very superficial and most importantly omits the fact that the really nasty little bullies of the OB infiltrated the SA police an military after 1948, becoming the senior officers by the 1960s. The book is probably very rare outside of SA.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaptech (talk • contribs) 00:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Source material

message: *The category "Nazi collaborators" is for individuals, not for groups
*"Political parties" is for those running for election
Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 19:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, the categories in this realm are somewhat messy... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 19:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  cats 

message: The following line is totally incorrect: "During the 19th century, most of the Afrikaners in South Africa migrated to the interior" because most of the Afrikaners remained in the Western Cape & the vast majority of Afrikaners [ a post Anglo-Boer War coalition of Cape Dutch & Boer ] were always in the Western Cape until enough Cape Dutch migration into the Boer Republics region following the gold rush of the late 19th cent. 
The folks who "migrated to the interior" were the Boer people [ the folks who developed on the north eastern Cape frontier circa late 1600s & into the 1700s leaving behind the Cape Dutch & thus the majority of the Afrikaners ] of the north eastern Cape frontier. The folks who would soon call themselves "Afrikaners" from 1875 onwards were the Cape Dutch who overwhelmingly remained within the Western Cape & where many if not most of their descendents are still found to this day. The Boers were not yet considered part of the Afrikaners until well after the second Anglo-Boer War particularly after the 1930s when Afrikaner organization absorbed Boer organizations. The Cape Dutch were always LARGER in numbers over the smaller Boers & while the Trekboers might have referred to themselves as "Afrikaners" it was meant in a GEOGRAPHICAL context [ ie: they saw themselves as being African ] & not in a context that they saw themselves as being part of a macro Afrikaans speaking coalition. 
Professor Wallace Mills notes that the Boers of the frontier were a distinct entity from the more numerous Cape Dutch of the Western Cape & that the Boer saw themselves as such. Therefore not only is the erroneous assertion that "most Afrikaners migrated into the interior" factually wrong but also is the implication that the Boers are part of the Afrikaners because the term Afrikaner was used in a political context after 1875 when a few Cape Dutch intellectuals started a language rights movement at a time when most Boers were independent in their internationally recognized Boer Republics or were still on the Cape frontier. The Boers were not fully under Afrikaner domination & also publicly referred to as "Afrikaners" until the 1930s with the rise of Afrikaner Nationalism: a Cape Dutch directed Broederbond controlled Afrikaans language version of British imperialism which in fact MARGINALIZED the actual Boer people & prevented them from reclaiming their old Boer Republics or from finding self determination. 
 Ron7 (talk) 04:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The terms Boers and Afrikaners are synonyms and used for people in the Cape and Transvaal. 41.151.3.154 (talk) 12:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous Assertion Concerning Afrikaners.