Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Work via WikiProjects/Archive 2

message: In order to accomodate all of this, I've created :Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments to simplify the gathering process. Subcategories of that page should correspond to the top-level categories of WP:1.0 (whenever they are set to be decided), and the subcategories currently there should be pushed down to be sub-sub-categories of that. One level deeper are the actual assessment categories, so they're categorized by area, WikiProject and quality assessment. The category is not completely populated; I'll try doing as soon as possible, as I'm in the middle of finals right now. Questions? Comments? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me! Walkerma 06:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New category 

message: Just to mention, if anyone's interested, that I've made some modifications to the basic assessment level code on WikiProject Music genres's  which can be seen at talk:ambient music. --MilkMiruku 11:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|genre}} 

message: might it be an idea if the templates (i.e. ) were modified to pass on more info such as Importance, Date, Version, Comments (i.e., ), then Mathbot would be able to grab it when compiling the assessment lists? or not? nb. to combat abuse, the bot could check for certain keywords, dodgy dates, invalid importance levels, and, as previously mentioned, assessment levels that change to quickly. --MilkMiruku 00:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  passing more info to save time? 

message: Just to mention I've made some steps to getting people interested in article assessment for 1.0 on WikiProject Music genres, such as creating Wikipedia:WikiProject Music genres/Assessment and popping a note in  (which appears on the talk page of most genres so shuold hopfully attract a few interested parties). Any other thoughts or tips on things we should be doing or trying out? --MilkMiruku 21:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks nice. We have been talking above about adding the asssessment directly on talk pages via templates; do you mind if we add your WikiProject to the trial group? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sure, that would be cool. one thing i was wondering about was how to keep it updated at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/WPArts#Wikipedia:WikiProject Music genres, although it also worried me that listing the whole thing there might have potential to bloat it's length, given the number of music genre articles on wikipedia. --MilkMiruku 21:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, right now, it has to be done by hand, which will hopefully change soon. Don't worry about the size; the more articles we identify, the better. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Music genres]] 

message: Running a query of the WP:WVWP tables page, the project has assessed 733 articles to date, and I thought that was interesting, as there's several projects that have not replied to our contact. Have all of the Arts, Humanities and Hobbies projects been contacted? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Offhand, I know there were a few very specialized CVG project descendents that were either recently revived or created (and not asked): Digimon, Nintendo, The Elder Scrolls, and the less active Nintendo Wars, Tycoon games, and Mortal Kombat. Nifboy 05:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, if they're really recent, chances are that they are not on the Toolserver report of WikiProjects (and we still need to go through that list again). I'm contacting them now. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Roughly speaking, we have contacted all of the projects on our original list.  However being Wikipedia, this list is already hopelessly out of date, we are missing probably 100 or more projects.  Once we update our list to the toolserver list there will be many active projects we will be contacting for the first time. Walkerma 12:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Food for thought 

message: I've done one change to the assessment scale, and to keep discussion at one place, see the main project's talk. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 03:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to assessment scale 

message: You may not know that there is now a Beatles WikiProject. We have begun the long task of classifying our articles. I'm sure you'll want to have at least The Beatles, the four individual members, and the key albums in Version 1.0 so please add us to the list and get in touch for some cross-project co-operation. --kingboyk 03:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Article Classification]] 

message: For those who just checked in to find all this discussion and activity overwhelming them, a quick summary is probably a good idea.
*We are creating a new style of article table such as this one.
*We are also organising assessments by organising articles into categories such as :Category:A-Class chemistry articles, with the category appearing only on the article's talk page.
*We are in the midst of testing out User:Mathbot/WP1.0, a bot which will crawl through all of these WP1.0 assessment categories once a day and look for any changes.  The bot will then:
**Update the article assessment table
**Note the changes in a log - probably both a "global" log for us, and in a subject-specific log for the relevant WikiProjects (who will organise the assessments).
*Once we have this system working, we'll be able to start contacting the WikiProjects, knowing that we have the necessary infrastructure to handle this.
*Meanwhile back in Gotham City there are plans afoot to set up Nomination and Qualifying pages for V0.5 and V1.0 very soon.  This means that our new contact with the WikiProjects can include a direct appeal to nominate their articles for inclusion on a CD or DVD.
Phew! Walkerma 01:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We at the Beatles WikiProject have started our own classification effort (see thread above) using a similar table to yours but not - I think - identical. Could I ask for two things then please: 1) any help classifying our articles would be most welcome. 2) please don't develop a bot which can't read our table, or at the very least let us know asap what changes we need to make as we should hopefully soon be fleshing out our table to cover all our articles. I'd hate to see all that work go to waste. For now, then, I'll assume you will contact us when you're ready. --kingboyk 08:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to try to bring what we did on WP:Beatles into the fold before it goes completely stale. We use more types of classification (as you can see at Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Article_Classification#Article_progress_grading_scheme Would anyone be upset if we added additional templates similar to Template:FA-Class to take on our merge/delete structure? If I do that, I think we can switch our current classification over to match the table structure used in Chem etc. (also start using the template it uses) so that they'd be unified. My previoius idea of contributing code to Mathbot wasn't a good one but before it all goes completely stale we better get on board. Thoughts? I am not sure if this is the one best place to ask though. ++Lar: t/c 23:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion would be to have templates/categories for the non-standard classes, but to avoid trying to get Mathbot to parse them.  See, for example,  and the associated :Category:Non-article military history pages, neither of which is recognized by the bot; you could create the same thing (e.g. :Category:The Beatles articles for merging) either from a  tag, or, alternately, from a separate merge=yes parameter in the project banner template. Kirill Lokshin 00:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Kirill is right.  It's very easy to get the bot going, all you have to do is to create a :Category:Beatles articles by quality similar to :Category:Chemistry articles by quality, as well as the sub-categories like :Category:B-Class chemistry articles (make sure you include the parent cat in the sub-cats).  Then create a Beatles template equivalent to :Template:Chemistry.  Then you add this template and the appropriate assessment to the talk page of each article, something like .  This should (I think) automatically create the list and log.  You should probably check in at User_talk:Mathbot/WP1.0, and read User_talk:Mathbot/WP1.0#So.2C_how_do_we_use_it.3F, then mention what you are doing so Oleg is aware.  Good luck! Walkerma 04:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status report 

message: Hello. This is regarding the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation message you have recently placed on our wikiproject talk page. I am Iuio, member and representative for this wikiproject. We would like to know your criteria either for featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles so we can make the appropriate recommandations. Please post your answer on our talk page. Thank you. (Iuio 01:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Tycoon Computer Games|WikiProject Tycoon Computer Games]]