Talk:Canada men's national soccer team

message: Okay, why does the first sentence mention about the team not succeeding so well? --84.249.252.211 12:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, that's not POV: They aren't succeding. They haven't even qualified for the world cup since the early 80's. -Kookykman|(t)e 17:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole lead section is pretty negative. It should have a more neutral point of view.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 07:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: I will reedit the section on the players, so people will be able to see the last call up.--Soopafred 18:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great work so far, but will you be cleaning up the forwards to be consistent with the other players? Jmcnally 18:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry. I didn`t have time to finish it because I forgot about it. --Soopafred 14:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Players 

message: "Maple Leaves" or "Maple Leafs" ?
Tahrlis 22:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't know, but I'd prefer Maple Leaves. -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isn't Maple Leaves a name people use in a derogatory way when talking about the Toronto Maple Leafs?  Is it really a nickname for the Canadian NT? --Bigdottawa 21:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe you're thinking of "Maple Laughs" -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  just checking 

message: Do we seriously need to list every player with over ten caps since the 1920s? I was going to edit it, but I wasn't sure what I should do. DamionOWA 06:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the over ten caps is informative and found no place else.  i d like to the all-times results records go though.  i also restored the player pool tables Mayumashu 14:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former MNT numbers 

message: Panarjedde insists that this line in Template talk:Football kit means representations of colours only are what a kit is for: "To create a new pattern template follow the examples below. When you have created a new pattern please add it to the list below. Do not create patterns for minor details on a kit, the template is for showing basic team colours. It is not supposed to be an accurate drawing of the kit."  Now, I admit that it says "basic team colours", but if all that was intended was the showing of colours, then we'd have a box with colours listed, not a depiction of the jersey.  Read the kit template talk and you'll see there's little consensus as to what exactly the "right" way to use the kit template is, but most conflict is over the addition of features much more minor than the ones that have been on this kit for a month prior to Panarjedde's changes.  It's clear by a look around the kit template and football teams articles that while the jerseys are not an attempt at reproduction, they are an attempt at a fair depiction of the kit.  Panarjedde's version has black or white sides on the shirt where the jersey clearly only has one side coloured.  Plenty of football kits around Wikipedia have features such as this depicted correctly.  The following three are examples of the kit depicted before I made my edits, after my edits, and after Panarjedde's edits.  I stand by my edits. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 12:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kit colours 

message: I see the forthcoming fixtures and recent results were removed.  The person doing so, seemed to be pointing to that the information should be at Wikinews, however there is no information I could find there at all, on the Canadian national soccer team.  I can see a lot of valid reasons that this information shouldn't be here.  However for the information to not be here, other criteria needs to be achieved.  I think the information needs to be elsewhere, and the location of that information should be listed here. Nfitz 18:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forthcoming fixtures 

message: Why is the CMNT CSA crest not the same as the CWNT crest on wiki? (unsigned comment by 70.50.181.231 02:47, 25 January 2007)
Is it possible for someone to upload a new CSA logo, one of better quality which doesn't have a shadow behind it? I would do it myself but I don't know how to convert images to PNG.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Run34 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The listed squad has 43 people in it. The first thing that jumps out to me are the 4 players listed with no callups; second, the three players with callups but no caps, third, the seven players that haven't been called up since 2005 or earlier (including the three with callups and no caps). You could concievably give Daniel Imhof an exception for having 32 caps, but a lot of other players are listed without really needing to be.
Does anyone have a problem with clipping Asmir Begovic (0 caps), Mike Franks (0 caps), Rhian Dodds (0 caps), Antonio Ribiero (0 caps), Nikolas Ledgerwood (0 caps), Dave Simpson (0 caps), Alen Marcina (0 caps), Joshua Wagenaar (1 cap, last seen 2005), Rosso Placentino (1 cap, last seen 2005), Ive Sulentic (2 caps, last seen 2005), Tony Menezes (27 caps, last seen 2004), and Daniel Imhof (32 caps, last seen 2005) from the squad list? That would bring the total down to 31. Does anyone have any other submissions for excise from the list? 
I almost think that the whole squad section should be replaced with whoever goes to the Gold Cup, and we can just continue our process from there. DamionOWA 19:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squad trimming 

message: ;ROSTER / EFFECTIF 
;CANADA PLAYER CAPS AGE TEAM
G 1 Greg Sutton 8 30 Toronto FC/MLS
D 2 Adam Braz 11 25 Toronto FC/MLS
D/M 3 Ante Jazic 16 31 LA Galaxy/MLS
D 4 Marco Reda 6 29 Toronto FC/MLS
D 5 Andrew Hainault 2 20 FK Siad Most/Ceska Republika
M 6 Julián de Guzmán 19 26 Deportivo La Coruna/España
D/M 7 Paul Stalteri 53 29 Tottenham Hotspur/England
M 8 Kevin Harmse 1 22 LA Galaxy/MLS
F 9 Rob Friend 10 26 FC Heerenveen/Nederland
F 10 Ali Gerba 7 24 FC Göteborg/Sverige
D/M 11 Richard Hastings 36 30 Inverness CT/Scotland
D 12 Gabriel Gervais 10 30 Impact de Montréal/USL
D/M 13 Atiba Hutchinson 23 24 FC København/Denmark
M/F 14 Dwayne De Rosario 37 29 Houston Dynamo/MLS
M 15 Patrice Bernier 19 27 Tromsø I.L./Norge
M 16 Martin Nash 32 31 Vancouver Whitecaps/USL
F 17 Iain Hume 16 23 Leicester City/England
M 18 Issey Nakajima-Farran 2 23 FC Vejle Boldklub/Denmark
M 19 Antonio Ribeiro 0 26 Impact de Montréal/USL
G 22 Joshua Wagenaar 1 22 ADO Den Haag/Nederland
;RESERVES / RÉSERVES
D/M 20 Chris Pozniak 17 26 Toronto FC/MLS
M 21 Nik Ledgerwood 0 22 1860 München/Deutschland
G 23 Robert Giacomi 0 20 KSK Beveren/België
Jonzo12 03:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold Cup Roster

message: Shouldn't there be a history section? This whole article seems to deal with the team after 2006, when it's had a long, eventful history before then (the 1986 World Cup appearance, 2000 Gold Cup victory). I know it may not a "positive" history, but it's still one that has to be recounted. -RomeW 02:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History?

message: Why does the infobox list both Catliff and Mitchell as joint top-scorers with 19, while the table of all-time leading scorers lower on the page has Mitchell at 19 and Catliff at 18?  I personally thought they were both tied at 19, but I can only assume someone disputes one of Catliff's goals and has edited the page to reflect that? -Themodelcitizen 03:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's just a typo? GiantSnowman (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated the table with the information from the RSSSF.  Somewhere, either the CSA or Wikipedia messed up their page, and the other one updated itself incorrectly in turn.  Hopefully the CSA will soon reflect the accurate history, which I believe is now represented on Wiki. - Themodelcitizen (talk) 06:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For more on this see the discussion at http://canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15699 , it looks as though Mitchell is the sole leader at 19. Still doesn't explain why the CSA's website listed them tied at 19 for the better part of 5 years from 2000-2005. - Themodelcitizen (talk) 20:25, 08 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Catliff/Mitchelll

message: I've updated the article with an extensive history, incorporating what was already there, and conforming to the template for national football teams according to the Wiki project as best I could.  Feel free to update/tweak the setup, its a bit cluttered, but I felt it was important to include the history section (as pointed out by RomeW below).
- Themodelcitizen (talk) 08:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History/template

message: Updated with caps, DeRo's goal in the record scorers table, and the Martinique result.  Whether or not it was an official FIFA friendly, it was a CONCACAF game, and the ELO rankings will reflect it.  If we played them in the Gold Cup it would count, friendlies are no different.  We need all the matches we can get.  Let's keep this as accurate as possible, there were mistakes in here that it appeared the CSA used in its website.  I've used the RSSSF statistics in the past as they seem to be more accurate.
I've also updated a few sections like managers, if anyone has more information about nationalities for guys like McAllister, please fill it in.  I've moved the long lists of players with caps to the linked article, as it was getting way too cluttered.  If anyone wants to clean it up further go ahead.  There's also a few players I didn't put into the list of squad members (jakovic, etc), but I can get to that if no one else does.
Themodelcitizen (talk) 05:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates

message: Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 16:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Category renaming

message: I made a records page and moved some of the clutter over there, as it was lots of useful info, but the page was becoming difficult to read. If people think the caps/goalscorers table was more appropriate here, we can move it back, but better to keep it in just 1 place as it will be easier to update. I believe these numbers are accurate, the CSA had incorrect numbers on their website for a bit but I think they had just copied the wrong numbers from wiki.
- Themodelcitizen (talk) 23:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up

message: Why are the venues of the 2007 FIFA Under-20 World Cup listed in the stadium section?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They were there because they've been used as soccer stadiums in a FIFA event. The article looks a lot less cluttered without them. Speaking of which, whoever moved over the caps/goals tables from the records page seems to have just created more clutter on this page, I think casual readers will just skim through the multitude of tables on here. That stuff is better left to the records page. I could also move the history section I wrote a while ago to a dedicated article. - Themodelcitizen (talk) 20:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stadium 

message: Soccer is the name of this sport in Canadian English. Canada men's national soccer team is the correct name for this article.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to Faithlessthewonderboy for fixing this.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 08:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Not really. Both are understood in the correct context. The only cases of the use of "football" is when clubs are called "F.C." which is short for Football Club. We don't have the "Canadian Soccer Association" and the "Canadian Football Association". Besides, this discussion has been stale for three and a half years. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: hey guys, yes, the term football and soccer are both acceptable terms in Canada. Both words football and soccer are used by the Canadian Soccer Association  (note - Association used to be called Canadian Soccer Football Association... but it was shortened to Canadian Soccer Association in 1970).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardscott187 (talk • contribs) 03:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  The CSA doesn't rule print or other forms of discussion. In Canada, football usually means something very different than soccer. If the CSA wants to change that culture, they're free too, but we should be very careful to not use football in the wrong context. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada national football team? 

message: The statement "flagged offside by Mexican referee Benito Archundia" is incorrect.  Referees don't carry flags.  The linesman raised his flag and Archundia blew the whistle.  I don't remember which assistant referee was involved (A1: Luis CAMARGO (MEX) or A2: Ricardo LOUISVILLE (SUR)).--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 06:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was Ricardo Louisville--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 21:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 07:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007 Gold Cup flagged offside 

message: The Scotland national football team article has a good example of what to expect from the lede - a paragraph for a general overview, with details on formation and home stadium; a paragraph on results to date; and a paragraph on miscellanea. Looking at the current version, the second half would do for the third paragraph - the first three sentences should be expanded into the other two paras. - From User_talk:Thumperward#Intro-tooshort_for_Canada_men's_national_soccer_team. - Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro-tooshort 

message: We should avoid using flags in infoboxes according to MOS:FLAG. The five Canadian flags in the infobox don't add anything to the article and are distracting.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags in the infobox 

message: Is real this pronunciation on Canada?  --Repapugh (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we have a men's team and a women's team. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 02:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Canada men's national soccer team" 

message: While Canada Soccer did list James Pantemis as playing for the Montreal Impact I can find no other reference to confirm this status. He is not listed on Montreal's roster, and his wiki article claims he last played in 2016 for FC Montreal (a USL affiliate). I am confused as to why the Canada Soccer announcement, which came out well after FC Montreal disbanded, would claim he was still affiliated with the Impact. Can anyone shed light on this? GiovanniSidwell (talk) 17:29, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Pantemis club 

message: Is it really necessary to have a "honours" section in this article? I think that it would probably make more sense to merge it with the "competitive record" section. It mostly just re-states facts from the "competitive record" section. Jith12 (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is standard to have both sections on national teams. Competitive records section is detailed for every tournament, honours is just what they've won. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honours section 

message: I'm going to go ahead and move Ballou Tabla to the midfield section because he is listed on the Canada Soccer website here as a winger, and that has been his position at the club level his entire career. - TrailBlzr (talk) 23:36, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ballou Tabla 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Cancelled_fixtures_in_national_team_articles. RedPatch (talk) 21:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion regarding whether to include Iran/Panama fixtures in the Recent fixtures section 

message: What is wiki standard for saying someone is active?  Ricketts is still listed as active in career goal scorers, but he hasn't been called up since 2018.  I would strongly argue he is no longer involved with the Canadian national team.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RKing85  (talk • contribs) 11:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ricketts was capped in 2020 and was named to the Gold Cup preliminary squad in June 2021 (although he didn't make the final list). Generally, the latest consensus was 1-2 years after most recent call-up See here. Basically, if we accept the preliminary squad as a 'call-up', then he would still technically be considered active until July 2023. RedPatch (talk) 17:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, fair.  I have ZERO recollection of Ricketts being called up in 2020 and I have a pretty good memory for that type of stuff....or at least I thought I did.  haha. I personally wouldn't count the prelim squad in 2021 as anybody who has ever played one second of soccer in their life was included in that prelim roster.  It had 60 some names on it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RKing85  (talk • contribs) 00:31, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't either, but Wikipedia tends to use that (they did on the roster page) for the 12 months after it, so I guess we have to go with it. He played in the January 2020 friendlies against Barbados and Iceland. (On a separate note, when commenting on talk pages, make sure to add your username in the comment by adding four tildes "~"'s in a row at the end. It put your username and the timestamp. Like this --> RedPatch (talk) 14:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Active? 

message: The kit section has a few issues. The 2020 home and away kits are both bespoke designs (using an outdated template to boot, thanks Nike) and were never worn by the men's team from what I can tell. They were however sold in men's cuts and are listed under 2020 on footballkitarchive here https://www.footballkitarchive.com/canada-kits/ but that site is run by footyheadlines and sort of melds the men and women's teams together.
Big issue is missing the current set of kits, worn in both 2021 and 2022 due to canada being on a "different development cycle" per nike. They're basically just blank nike vapor kits with csa logo, i'm unsure of how to copy them from the colours section to the history one. 
Summary: 
1: Women's 2020 kits are mistakenly listed for men, should be the 2019 design as that was carried over for the men.
2:  2021/22 design is missing, needs to be there as it was worn during our first wc in 36 years. PikaBoop (talk) 06:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kit issues 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress