Talk:Phaeton (hypothetical planet)

message: What stories does Phaeton appear in besides Ocean? Whoever that wrote "many stories" section should have added them.
-I recall that Stranger in a Strange Land mentions a nameless fifth planet being destroyed, so I shall add it. If anyone with better memory than I can disprove it, by all means do so. -Anonymous Idiot
It does indeed. Many thanks. Mrwuggs 20:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I moved Sitchin's stuff from the intro down to the bottom.  I believe that this article should deal first with the Phaeton hypothesis, then explore and mention similar theories, recalling that Olbers theorized on Phaeton centuries before Sumerian cuneiform was even deciphered and Sitchin first proposed his theories of Nibiru and Tiamat.  Sound good? TuckerResearch 00:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved Sitchin stuff... 

message: * Disagree with merger. Phaethon has a storied history in the "hypothetical fifth planet" field.  TuckerResearch 04:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging with Phaeton [[Fifth planet (hypothetical)]] 

message: The attribution of the name Phaeton to Krinov is incorrect. The earliest reference I could find so far is the German linguist Johann Gottlieb Radlof who called Olbers' destroyed planet by that name already in 1823. ("Zertrümmerung der großen Planeten Hesperus und Phaethon", https://books.google.de/books?id=qRI5AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA59&dq=Phaeton+planet&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtqOT3suLSAhXFKywKHTb3DbEQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=Phaeton%20planet&f=false )
Nafiris (talk) 16:59, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent find.  Do you know what the German text says?  Do you think we should add a sentence to the article?  If so, what do you suggest? TuckerResearch (talk) 20:27, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes. I happen to be German. ;-) But here is an introduction to Radlof's work in English (note that he uses the spelling Phaethon): http://www.mythopedia.info/radlof.htm Nafiris (talk) 22:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a little bit on Johann Gottlieb Radlof (who, as you can see by the red link, doesn't have a page in English) and planet Phaeton.  I added two links.  Please feel free to edit and make better. TuckerResearch (talk) 23:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. I removed the Klinov stuff because I cannot find any second reference to it but added an attribution to Soviet astronomer Sergei Orlov instead. Nafiris (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The origin of the Phaeton hypothesis 

message: We really need an authoritative, non-WP:PRIMARY source about who dubbed the planet Phaethon/Phaeton/Phaëton. Sources differ:
*Paul Murdin (2016) says Yevgeny Krinov followed by "Sergei Orloff" (presumably Sergei Vladimirovich Orlov).
*https://www.guide-to-the-universe.com/planet-phaeton.html (probably not WP:RELIABLE) says 
*Mike Bara (2010, 2013) says that it was Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers himself.
*This article currently states, based on a primary source, that it was .
TompaDompa (talk) 20:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who named the hypothetical planet? 

message: This article lacks some important information. When exactly did the Phaeton hypothesis get discredited? What evidence made scientists doubt it? Did the scientific discussion last long? The only thing the article says is that 'today' the hypothesis has been replaced by the accretion theory. And surely I could get the answers for some of these questions from other articles, but all the same, this article should tell us more about the history of the idea. Steinbach (talk) 17:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the hypothesis 

message: Why is the article called "Phaeton" when it states in the second paragraph that the correct spelling is "Phaethon"? Also, it seems that "Phaeton" is used not only here in this article, but in the large majority of works I find by doing a brief google search on the subject; spelling is conventional, right? So should we remove the notion that it is "sometimes incorrectly spelled Phaeton", and substitute the notion that it is "sometimes incorrectly spelled Phaethon"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.133.79.7 (talk) 00:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to read a little more carefully.  The second paragraph you speak of refers not to the hypothetical planet, but the asteroid 3200 Phaethon, which is officially spelled with a th, but sometimes incorrectly only gets a t.  As for the subject of this article, it is named after , Phaéthōn, with a theta (θ), the th sound, but throughout history it has often been transliterated with just a t: Phaeton.  Which, as you point out is the predominant spelling.  Which is why the predominant spelling is used as the title of this article and within this article. TuckerResearch (talk) 22:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of this article 

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message: what other scientists in this article are named by their city rather than country? K. N. Savchenko was in Soviet Ukraine.  This looks like an unhappy attempt to avoid the illegal Russian occupation of Ukrainian territory. But it was 1955. --142.163.195.153 (talk) 15:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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