Talk:Housing in Japan

message: Not a single mention of gardens. I think there's quite a bit to say, that for example lawns and suburban gardens as found across much of the rest of the western world are usually absent, and in fact modern homes often have no garden to speak of at all, whereas older Japanese homes often at least had japanese gardens. I can't write it myself because I just don't know the whys of all this, but would be interested if someone who knows about it could write a section.--Hontogaichiban (talk) 16:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Gardens

message: Does not seem to make sense currently, can someone look into it? I would but no time. Tsuk  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.60.14 (talk) 08:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First paragraph

message: Edward S. Morse died in 1925, so for this page and others it will be possible to scan in many of his illustrations from the book mentioned in the references. I'll start scanning in some pictures. --DannyWilde 06:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: Does anyone know the original source of the description of Japanese people as "living in rabbit hutches"? It might have been from a U.N. report in the 1960s or 1970s. The term has had a lasting effect on Western perception of Japanese housing and reference to it would be a helpful addition to the article. The Japanese census collects information on floor space, and one wonders whether it's in response to this description. If anyone knows the results of the census question on housing, it to would be a valuable statistic to cite. Fg2 08:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "The originator of the phrase is reportedly Sir Roy Denman, who, as director-general for external relations of the EC Commission in 1979, referred to the Japanese in a confidential internal memo as “workaholics living in rabbit hutches.”". Another theorey has it that it was an overly literal translation of the French phrase "cage a lapins"  . (I think that Japanese housing is less urban, more likely to be detached, and not so small especially when owned, but I have yet to find the stats corresponding to those at the beginning of this article. If it is the case that Japanese housing is not so small, then a section on myths regarding Japanese housing might be in order) And alas I read that Fg2 (hani) is deceased--Timtak (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: I posted these on the WP:JTNB back when the article was first proposed, but they've been archive on the talk page by now.
* Finding a place to live and work in Japan
* Guide to Official Statistics in Japan: Construction, Real Estate, and Housing
* Japan See the Settlements subtitle
* A book review on Housing in Postwar Japan: A Social History
* Traditional Japanese housing - minka
* Why Are Prices in Japan So Damn High?
* "The recent controversial rough sleepers provisions in Japan" - Homelessness (pdf)
Re: the home ownership section, see also: parasite singles
Genkans are not in and of themselves all that visually interesting, usually, but I'll see if I can't find a good one for a photo, either for use in that article or this one. — MC MasterChef :: Leave a tip — 10:36, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potentially useful links 

message: I added some data from the 1998 survey on housing — for some reason the 2003 data doesn't seem to have been added yet, at least on the internet site there. This link has a bunch of data on house construction numbers, if there are any people who enjoy poring over Excel tables. For the moment, I've just dropped it in the external links. — MC MasterChef :: Leave a tip — 05:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stats 

message: Puzzled by the statement "Basements are not allowed and are never found." A google search for 地下室 (restricted to pages in Japanese and top-level domain .jp) returned "about 490,000" pages. I only looked at a couple, but they (well, some of them!) definitely seemed to be talking about basements in Japan. For example, 1, 2, 3. I wonder if they're permitted in some communities or prefectures, not in others? Fg2 11:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This addition was mine, and I based it on something I'd heard, but I don't have any concrete proof or references for it at the moment. However, I think I've never seen a Japanese house with a basement. Perhaps the regulations are more complex than the statement implies. However, basements are certainly rare here. --DannyWilde 03:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basements 

message: "A 1998 survey by the Ministry of Health and Welfare indicated that about 60% of single Japanese men and 80% of single women between the ages of 20 and 34 lived with their parents."
I suspect this sentence should read "lived with their parents at some time after the age of 20."  I mean, I cannot believe that 70% (presuming that's the average for all sexes) of Japanese men and women between the ages of 20 and 34 currently live with their parents. Blondlieut 21:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parasite Singles =

message: Good to read a thing or two about housing in Japan, quite interesting since I might be going there to study in a few years. However, while reading the article, I came upon the part about electricity, which compares the japanese outlets to others, and only brings up american. "Outlets resemble those formerly used in the United States, with two vertical slots. Unlike modern American outlets, the slots are usually of equal width, and there is no third slot for ground plugs.". Since I'm European, this means little to me (even if the details (vertical slots, etc) are helpful), and I'd love to have this part broadened beyond American standards, perhaps comparing them to both American, European and other outlets. A minor problem, but a change would make this article even better! Shandolad 14:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. When I wrote the initial part, I intentionally put in the US comparison in the hopes that other editors would add information from countries they're familiar with. (At the time, one of the active editors was from Australia.) But although the section has had some additions, they have not approached the description from other points of view. So I hope someone will add to the comparison, or rephrase it in its own terms. Fg2 21:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a link to a comprehensive article on plugs. Neier 09:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice teamwork. In my opinion this is what makes Wikipedia so appealing - one person can bring to the table their own experiences and knowledge, and more people can join in and expand on that knowledge. SlapAyoda 13:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global view on electricity, please! 

message: Hey gang! I'm new to WIkipedia and I would really appreciate everyone's feedback as to whether or not my two additions to this page are appropriate. I'm an American citizen but recently spent three months living in Tokyo. In my experience, the easiest way to achieve that was to find a gaijin house, in this case I ended up with one provided by Sakura House. This type of housing is not completely uncommon in cities like Tokyo and Osaka, so I thought it notable to mention here. Let me know if I'm correct/incorrect - any and all feedback appreciated. Thanks, all. SlapAyoda 13:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Option for foreigners - Gaijin houses 

message: This article has been the current Japanese collaboration since February. Time to move on? // Habj 23:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. // Habj 17:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: japenese homes are usually low prices for wealthy people and the rent for them is very high.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.29.109 (talk) 20:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
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