Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who/Archive 1

message: ISTM that it would be worth having some good quality visual material on these pages. For example one clear photo' for each story, but it could be equally useful to vary the media - one could have a publicity shot, one a screen still, one a line illustration etc. As long as it doesn't become overburdened (I can see some people wanting to have pictures of every cast member), this should improve the articles. I appreciate all the arguments about copyright etc.
User:DavidFarmbrough 00:25 BST 10/APR/'05
:I've been placing pictures on the articles as best I can - the main issue with putting them on the story pages is where to put them - the upper half of the story is already cluttered enough, what with the infobox. As long as the layout doesn't become completely ugly and awkward, it should be all right, but just one screenshot or graphic per story (and properly tagged), please, to stay within the bounds of fair use. --khaosworks 23:48, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo's/Figures 

message: I was thinking that it might be good to have some list boxes (if that's the right terminology) for various Who-related stuff.  For instance a  template to put at the bottom of each companion's page, listing all of the companions (maybe by which Doctor they travelled with).  This would be analogous to the boxes found on many pages related to US states, listing various towns, regions, etc.  Perhaps similar boxes for monsters/villains, UNIT, etc.  I might be persuaded to work on such things, if people think it's a good idea. Gwimpey 04:45, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
:Some might argue that's what the categories are for, although the categories don't really lend themselves to easy breakdown by Doctor. What might be more useful is a box like the infobox for the serials, but with the companion name, picture, years on the show, Doctor(s) travelled with, Companion(s) travelled with. Have a look at Template:Superherobox for something similar. That being said, do up a couple of examples and we'll toss it around? --khaosworks 04:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project templates 

message: This page is in desperate need of a cleanup. Too busy to do it right now, but a cursory glance shows bad links, potential for a proliferation of stub articles, and non-television series canon info (Sontara, for example). The intro paragraph also makes me wince. Someone please go in and do a sweep. --khaosworks 05:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OK This has been tidied up. It still needs a lot of work, so Khaosworks's invitation still stands!
User:DavidFarmbrough 09:08, 14 Apr 2005 (BST)
It's starting to look more respectable. Good work, everyone! --khaosworks 07:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Although I don't think all the planets mentioned by The Captain in The Greatest Show in the Galaxy need listing. <--grin--> --TimPope 16:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Doctor Who planets 

message: I think it was Tim who discussed the creation of a Doctor Who-specific stub template a while back. My view then was that it wasn't needed, but on consideration I'm not that sure now. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? It wouldn't be difficult just to tag a Doctor Who logo on. --khaosworks 18:16, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Star Trek has one, why not Doctor Who? It'd also make it easy for folks to see what articles need expanding. I'm all for it. 23skidoo 19:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  nice one --TimPope 22:36, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text:  I like it! 23skidoo 12:10, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Doctor Who stub

message: Shall we add him now, or be good boys and girls and wait another hour and a half? Angmering 21:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, let's be good. :) --khaosworks 21:39, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Aw, you're no fun! :) Angmering 21:52, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the edit on the main article poised and ready to save at midnight. ;) --khaosworks 22:04, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tennant

message: I would be in favour of this. --TimPope 17:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good idea, so long as there is a article somewhere linking them together. How about a template like this to link between Doctors, and possibly other core articles. GraemeLeggett 16:20, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Should each Doctor have his own article instead of just linking to the actors?

message: Now that we have a category for the comic strip characters, I note that with Charley, C'rizz, Evelyn, Erimem and Nimrod, as well as crossover characters like Frobisher, Shayde, Benny and Iris Wildthyme, we actually have a decent population to categorise them together. Good idea? Better name? --khaosworks 19:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Doctor Who audio characters?

message: Rose Tyler is a shop assistant at Henrik's...
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-- Ravenswood 20:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Together they stop the destruction of the human race" sounds a little spoilerish to me, to say the least. OK, it's not necessarily a surprise, but it certainly spoils the ending in the sense of, er, telling you what happens. -- Avaragado 22:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, but you get my point. The 'synopsis' should be spoiler-free (within reason), the sort of thing you'd find in an episode guide. -- Ravenswood 22:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think most of the articles that have the Synopsis-Plot split have spoiler free Synopsis sections, so it'd be a minor move to shift the warning down a tad. It's the ones without that are the problem. --khaosworks 22:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot

message: So far, we have these articles referenced in the "See Also" section of the main Doctor Who article:
*History of Doctor Who
*The Doctor (Doctor Who)
*List of supporting characters in Doctor Who
*List of robots in Doctor Who
*List of Doctor Who planets
*List of Doctor Who serials
*Doctor Who spin-offs
*Doctor Who in America
*Doctor Who audio releases
I was looking for information on Movellans and realized that they don't fit any of these categories. Would anyone be up to starting a list of "All alien races (good, evil, or on the fence)"? -- Ravenswood 08:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There actually is a :Category:Doctor Who races up which has all the articles so far. There's also a section under List of supporting characters in Doctor Who which list significant alien races. No central listing of all of them yet, though. Personally, I'd chuck the Movellans under any entry for Destiny of the Daleks since they only appeared in that one serial and, AFAIK, haven't turned up anywhere else. Oh, and Movellans fit under List of robots. --khaosworks 08:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "There actually is a :Category:Doctor Who races up which has all the articles so far." -- Yes, but it's not linked anywhere from the main Doctor Who page. I'm not sure of Wiki policy yet -- should it be here in this list? At any rate, it may end up being the kind of thing that's too geeky and fannish for a Wikipedia page. But then that makes me wonder if "List of robots in Doctor Who" might be something outside of Wikipedia's scope also. -- Not trying to make waves, I'm new here and I'm just trying to get the feel of the terrain. -- Ravenswood 07:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  The list at least prevents the spread of small articles about each of the individual items on the list, for example an article on Raston warrior robot, which would not be very interesting, but at least its existence is noted. My personal feeling is that the large part of articles on wikipedia are non-notable anyway (try clicking on random page a few times, you'll mostly get place stubs), at least information about Doctor Who concerns a television program watched by millions of people and which is a major cutural influence in the UK at least. --TimPope 09:39, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Aliens?

message: I am contemplating rewriting and merging with the Missing episodes section on the Doctor Who main article and putting it all in a new article Doctor Who missing episodes. Any thoughts/objections? I'll probably get around to it after I finish with synopsising Dalek this weekend. --khaosworks 16:18, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
:Do we want to keep some of the information on incomplete stories, though? Or possibly expand that article to include projects that were never recorded (original season 23, for example, or a third meeting with the Yeti that was planned but never recorded, according to the notes included with the CDs for the other two Yeti stories)? I could see where you could be specific with individual missing episodes, and leave general 'incomplete Doctor Who serials' information in the existing article. Just my two cents. JohnDBuell 16:02, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of incomplete Doctor Who serials

message: Hey all, I'm the creator of WikiProject Buffy.  I was simply wondering if anyone involved in this project wanted to put in a little time at WP Buffy.  I'm not trying to start a membership war or anything like that -- just, if anyone's got a little extra time, we could use an extra keyboard or two.  Thanks! - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 01:44, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  shameless recruiting plug 

message: We've been getting a number of these lately - articles about characters that appeared only once and whose details are really covered in the articles about the episodes where they appeared and are otherwise non-notable. Rather than creating loads of stub articles and/or duplicating information that is already (or should be) in the episode articles, and then finding ourselves locked up in VfD discussions, maybe it's time to create a Minor characters in Doctor Who along the lines of Minor characters from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and start redirecting. My only fear is that given the 40-year history of the programme, there's going to be a crapload of these entries if we don't have some criteria for inclusion, even when it comes to this list. 
Recently, we've had Pete Tyler, which I tried to get up to a decent level, but honestly, it shouldn't have been created in the first place. We've had Doctor Constantine, which is up for VfD, and now the latest one is Mavic Chen, which - to be frank - I don't see the point of. Thoughts? --khaosworks 09:01, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
:If there is no more information that can be found about a character other than what is (or should be) contained in the episode article then surely we should just create a page with the characters name which redirects to the episode about the article. This would save on a really long minor character list. --bjwebb 14:08, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That works for me. If there is a bit more to say, it can be added to an article as a subheader. Pete Tyler, for example, could and should be a subchapter of the Rose Tyler article. OTOH Adam, being an official (albeit short-term) companion, qualifies for his own article (just as Katarina and Sara Kingdom do). But single-appearance villains and supporting characters IMO shouldn't qualify for their own articles unless there is something spectacular about them. 23skidoo 05:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor characters