Talk:American manual alphabet

message: I've taken a few semesters of ASL at my university, and it was made explicity clear that numbers such as those from 1 - 5 are shown with the palm in (unless it is a money sign, etc). Is this illustration incorrect? Lordwow
:I've never heard of such a rule. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 22:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted the illustration and even when I did so, I was aware of a similar rule that was taught to me in an ASL class.  My take on the illustration is that it is designed to show how to form the hand and fingers, but not necessarily which way to face the hand.  (i.e. if the back of the hand was displayed in the illustration, it may not be clear how to hold the fingers against the palm)  That's my theory, anyways.  --Ds13 23:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers 

message: This alphabet is called the American Manual Alphabet, not the American Sign Language Alphabet. I don't know how to change the title of the article, but it is wrong.
this is according to Sternberg, Martin L. A. American Sign Language. New York: Harper & Row, 1981.
Mike.lifeguard 19:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should really be American manual alphabet (not capitalised). I'll move it. ntennis 06:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  title change please 

message: Firstly, this reference:
:The ASL alphabet is based on an old Spanish manual alphabet that dates back to at least the seventeenth century. 
should have a citation, since every single reference to the origins of the American Manual Alphabet that I've read say that it is actually based on the French model, not the Spanish.
Secondly, I deleted the following paragraph:
It is used with minor modification in Paraguay, the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore. The Asian countries just listed modify the T, for the ASL T is considered obscene. Instead, they use the T of the Irish manual alphabet, which is like an ASL X, but with the thumb tucked into the index finger (that is, the index finger wraps around the tip of the thumb). In Thailand, one indicates points on the left hand for the tone and vowel marks of the Thai alphabet, and aspiration is not indicated. The Paraguay alphabet is identical to ASL, except for the addition of the letter Ñ, which is an N swiveled at the wrist so that the fingers move side to side, and the letters LL and RR, which are L and R plus movement to the side.
because this article is about the American Manual Alphabet, not about international methods of fingerspelling. --Micahbrwn 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: International differences

message: "Thumb also often lower (like a claw)" ... Like a Claw? Not only is this not particularly helpful, it seems to promote, assist, aid or abet raptors. Not good. Tar7arus 14:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Help text on "e"

message: In the chart, it says the letter "o" should be turned sideways, but under Common mistakes it says
:As with the letter O, the zero should not be turned to the side, but shown palm facing forward.
I'm confused about how to sign the letter. --Wizard04 (talk) 15:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The chart is wrong. It's shown that way for "clarity" (so you can see the shape). I don't know why that caption is there. kwami (talk) 20:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to sign letter "o" 

message: It seems that we have a consensus on the issues with the chart.  I am not qualified to replace it, but I would implore someone who is to please find a suitable alternative.  I am especially concerned with the notation for 'o' that doesn't distinguish it from 0 (zero) and the palm position for the numbers.
Thebesius (talk) 19:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart Conclusion 

message: hi i think sign language is a form of art  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.186.126 (talk) 20:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ? 

message: The common mistakes section, particularly the "rhythm, speed, and movement" subsection, is written as if it were intended to appear in an ASL textbook (and I'm sure we all know that Wikipedia is Not a Textbook). Don't give tips, just tell it like it is. Don't use the second person.Mikeaschneider (talk) 19:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common Mistakes section 

message: Some of these letter-signs(for lack of a better term) have regional variations; secondarily some of the letter-signs have been changed. Thirdly, there are differences between signed exact English and ASL letter-signs.
For example, the letters "d" and "f"  The letter d is more relaxed in modern position in modern asl, with only the middle finger touching the thumb.  The sign for "d" in the article is a bit archaic for both ASL and SEE.  The letter "f" changes regionally.  The sign in the picture is still used, but alternatively in other areas the thumb does not hold up the fore-finger but rater the forefinger merely touches the thumb (this sign would be a homonym for the sign "9" {nine})  I'm not sure how to include this article, however it should be mentioned that there are variations.  Thank you... 165.138.95.59 (talk) 14:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Variations, and old signs

message: How to double letters like the 2 l's in doll is not mentioned in this article. please add this.\
184.61.110.231 (talk) 17:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to double letters 

message: I'm confused.  When are formal and informal letters used?  Why is there no formal F  (Do you just use PH in formal circumstances?)  Ticklewickleukulele (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formal vs Informal for pictures? 

message: Signs for 1 through 9 are shown. Why not a sign for 0, too?
12.175.62.2 (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Sign for 0 

message: ...from the "letters and digits" section. There are several images for G in the set, but I don't know enough to tell which one would be appropriate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.15.242 (talk) 01:28, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: In the article history, it looks like that picture was removed by an anonymous user. I restored the one that was in the article previously, though I don't know enough to confirm it's the appropriate one! Lusanaherandraton (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  G is missing! 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I need to learn asl Amaze.skye28 (talk) 03:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This article only covers "fingerspelling", which is a very small part of ASL.  If you're spelling out sentences with the American manual alphabet, then you aren't using ASL at all (see Manually coded English#Rochester method)... AnonMoos (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asl 

message: How to do letters in American Sign Language. 79.66.39.58 (talk) 15:21, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letters 

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