Talk:Sugar Land, Texas/Archive 2

message: Sometimes, I'm not sure if I'm reading a brochure about this town from the chamber of commerce or a wikipedia article.  Everything seems to be so positive and embellished. 
For example, the article twice references that the city has a "first class hotel."  This is a completely subjective term rather than an actual ranking from Zagat, AAA, Mobil, whatever.  Usually the term would be a four/five star or diamond hotel as rated by a reputable review organization.  Does that really exist in Sugar Land?  I know there isn't a Four Seasons, Ritz Carlton, or St. Regis.
Additionally, what's an example of a "high-class restaurants popping up, can be seen along both U.S. Highway 59 and Texas Highway 6."?  I've seen some chain places along 59 -- is that what we're advertising? Dbchip 21:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The new Sugar Land Marriot hotel in Sugar Land Town Square is the only first class full service hotel in Fort Bend County. Maybe you can go to the Sugar Land Marriot website and see what they have to say about their services and what they offer—to determine if it's really a "first class" hotel or not. Have you been to Sugar Land or Sugar Land Town Square lately? There is a P.F. Chang's, Cheesecake Factory—both considered "upscale"—and among others recently opened in the Sugar Land Town Square. Maybe you should visit the town square sometime, things are changing rapidly down here—in Sugar Land. RJN 22:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Do you even live here to judge or do you live in Houston? The hotel is the first and only full service "first class" hotel in Fort Bend County. You should search and read what they have to say about the hotel before removing information again. I also suspect that you are a sockpuppet of a certain person. Many people choose to make Sugar Land their home, not just some. I am restoring the information again. Also, you removed a paragraph the appeared in the lead section. All articles have statements from the lead section appearing again later in the article—this is the style of articles. I suggest you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia before removing information. —RJN 00:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Glad this is getting fixed, specifically the deceptive hotel/restaurant info.  As far as your sneaky suggestion, I find it extremely peculiar to suggest that if you consider that I haven't been reluctant to share my opinions or express concerns about the quality or legitimacy of any article.  Classy.  Dbchip 02:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to second the general dissent.  I feel that the information here is portrayed in a somewhat biased light.  I live and grew up here, and there is relatively little for students and young adults to do.  There aren't venues and concert pavillions like the Woodlands or Houston.  I think this article could use a dash or so of negative reality.  See Flint, MI. Bmunden 04:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV: First Class Hotel & More

message: I agree with the reviewers comments above – I personally don’t have the time to fix this overly promotional article.  In looking for some information on Tom Delay’s old stomping grounds I feel that I’ve stumbled onto the Sugar Land Economic Development Team’s website instead of an encyclopedia article.  Although I’m glad someone has a lot of enthusiasm for their (I assume) home town, there are a lot of subjective superlatives and qualitative statements – most unsubstantiated.  For example, I know that in many parts of the country a Marriott Hotel, or a Cheesecake Factory or a P.F. Chang is considered more middle of the road than “first class” or “upscale”.  Many of the features noted are pretty typical for most suburbs and don’t seem to really add value to what is supposed to be a concise article.  Additionally, for a town of 75,000 this article is nearly as long as the Wikipedia articles on New York, Los Angeles and a few other truly world class cities.
I wonder about those that did have the time to write the article.  It's not an encyclopedic article, it's an advertorial.  Hopelessly unbalanced.  The fact that I was raised in and still reside in Sugar Land is irrelavent to my position.  The article is a joke. Jtda 06:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV: Way too promotional

message: Understandably the under 24 crowd finds any suburban community boring especially compared to New York or LA.  Thankfully groups like CNN/Money/Forbes have used criteria broader than night life to determine where to rank the best places to live.  Broaden your filter to take in to account things like: schools (FBISD is nationally recognized, Crime (very low),  Access to Houston (18 miles), Commercial Economic Development, Community Activities, Parks and Taxes.  All of these items are significant factors for adults to take into account when considering a place to reside.  Projected population growth over the next 10 years is strong.  15,000 more families will make Sugar Land their home.  Too promotional?  I'm unsure of what you are looking for.  Someone to tell you suburban communities are not like big cities.  If you need to know: The Gulf Coast is hot in the summer, that Restaurants are not as good as in NY and your 16 year old will be bored but safe. Do some additional research on other communities where businesses are closing jobs are leaving and there is real negative energy. Sugar Land is certainly not the be all and end all but if you take a broad approach to evaluating the city you will be impressed.  The article serves its purpose to give a starting point for researchers.   --Sugar Land Relocation 13:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slow Down Negative Nellies 

message: This is a very sad story but given too much weight in this article about Sugar Land.  The story is incomplete and does not give sufficient weight to all those who have been slain in the HISTORY of the area.  If this is to remain then I propose all murders be listed in order to give fair representation.  
Remove the story. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sugar Land Relocation (talk • contribs) 04:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please remember that this is an encyclopedia. Notable events, whether good or bad should be included in the article. I agree, this was a sad event, but sad events are also mentioned in many articles. It did get nationwide attention and is relevant. Postoak 04:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ashton Glover is Sad but not relavant