Talk:Empathogen

message: this article was created from the merger of Empathogen and Entactogen, neither of which had talk pages.  --Heah 22:57, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: comment 1

message: The second author in Nichols' 1986 paper, referenced here, is Andy Hoffman, no relation to Albert Hofmann. I removed the improper link. Merenta 15:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: comment 2

message: It says that the "en" in entactogen is from Greek meaning within.  Is there a quote from Nichols where he denotes this as the meaning?   Because I thought that "endo" or "ento" was Greek for "within" while "en" was latin for "to give" as an intensifier.  Can anyone clear this up?
Found some other translations of the meaning as well.  From the UNODC glossary of drug terms, "Term derived from the Greek "en" (inside) and "gen" (to induce) and the Latin "tactus" (tact)."  http://www.unodc.org/unodc/report_1998-10-01_1_page027.html
From a page on erowid, "'entactogen' (from the Latin, meaning 'to touch within')".  http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_writings2.shtml
And finally, "from Greek and Latin roots, literally producing a touching within", from http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:_DXjqdR5-sMJ:www.liv.ac.uk/psychology/staff/JCole/4379.pdf+%22entactogen%22+latin&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4
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I have softened the oxytocin claim from this page.  While MDMA does increase oxytocin, so do many serotonergic drugs.
MattBagg (talk) 08:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: comment 3

message: The list of substances on the bottom of the page contains PMA. The page of PMA explicitly states that it is NOT an entactogen.
Which page has it right?
Also, aMT is a relatively common drug considered to be entactogenic, but only its less common analogue, aET, actually shows up on the list.
I'm gonna go ahead and edit it.
Starprizm (talk) 04:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  PMA and aMT 

message: Has anyone considered adding a culture section to this article? The opening paragraph discusses the feeling of oneness caused by empathogens. I am wondering if these compounds were used in any type of ceremony or cultural act. Knowing that MDMA, a major example of an empathogen, was only just synthesized in the early 1900s, would this be a feasible addition?
I will also be working to address the need for  more sources and greater clarification. Please let me know if you have any suggestions for this article! Courtlee214 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Section Suggestion 

message: Entactogens And Empathogens, As With Entheogens, Are Entirely Different Modal Classes Of Medicine. They May Share Similar Characteristics, Perhaps Sometimes Only Seperated By Subjectivity Or Environment Or Dosage, But Are Generally Catalyzed Through Differentiated Pharmacological Mechanisms As Occur To Individual Personality, Body Chemistry, And Conscious Intentionality.
In Ethnobotany And Naturopathy, These Distinct Modes Of Usage And Affect Have Been Well Studied For Millennia.
In My Personal Opinion, These, Although Related In Principle, Should Be Discussed As Distinct Topics. Also, The Initial Page Focus, Though Relevant, Carries Connotations Which May Do Disservice To Honest Inquiry And Discourse. VerifyTruth927 (talk) 02:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entactogen