Wikipedia talk:Admin backlog contest

message: Backlogs can not just be blasted through indiscriminately. Making a contest only encourages that, and minus points for invalid actions doesn't work, because that doesn't count the articles made by newbies who do not know how to complain.
...and yes, I KNOW I'm not an admin, but I do look at the backlogs. -Amarkov moo! 04:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I may be allowed a bit of self-promotion, I've written an essay/pseudo-proposal called Burn the Backlogs that I think would help address the backlog situation in a low-key, less destructive method. While I think the contest would be cool, my idea could be applied to all of the backlogs, not just the admin ones. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let me bring up the obvious concern... 

message: How many points for rogue actions that are later endorsed? John Reaves (talk) 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: M, of course. -Amarkov moo! 04:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "M"?  Aww, I don't get it. John Reaves (talk) 05:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Q would be funnier, but I don't like ducks. -Amarkov moo! 05:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should get  points. Luigi30 (Taλk) 12:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rogue

message: Can you link the WT:RFA discussion you mention twice?  Curious. Chick Bowen 05:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try and find it... Grandmasterka 05:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it! See NoSeptember's final comment in that discussion. That inspired this. Grandmasterka 05:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  Indeed, very interesting.  Obviously I'm well aware I'm not keeping up my end, but the top-heaviness of that list bears thinking about. Chick Bowen 06:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link? 

message: Getting a speedy deletion overturned is even worse, so I added it :-P ^demon[omg plz] 05:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added One 

message: What about page protections?
:Also, this might have a side effect of Wikipedia:Adminitis.  It would be annoying to count the admin log, and even more annoying to count the declined requests that are dealt with, and even more annoying to haggle about DRV cases when the admin says he was judging consensus, etc. etc.  So this will never fly in practice.  What might fly, though, is to focus efforts on a particular backlog.  Thus, image backlogs are a notorious problem, so one week could be "image backlog week", another "uncategorized pages backlog week" (non-admin work that I do, but whatever) and so on. YechielMan 07:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, I love the idea (I think we're mature enough to not blast through everything, so I have no concerns about that). I do think something is missing, though: non-destructive backlog clearing. I've added missing licensing tags to images that I could have just deleted instead. Considering the time it can take to do this (much longer than just deleting), 5 to 10 points sounds fair. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First of all... 

message: I like the idea in principle, though it will be difficult to recall when a block was listed on WP:AIV (esp. while it was backlogged), or when an image was overdue for deletion. Whenever I go through CSD I find that many many items are listed inappropriately and need to be dealt with through other means than admin tools - eg. either article expansion or editing, or adding a  or  tag, or even notifying the uploader. This is stuff that non-admins should be doing, and they should also be rewarded for it, perhaps separately. -- zzuuzz(talk) 12:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A contest for non-admin actions is a good idea too. And for admins, we should honor individual categories of action (especially the more neglected ones like image deletions) as well as identifying the overall multi-category champ.  NoSeptember 19:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Another fantastic idea. I don't have time to write such a thing but I certainly endorse it. Grandmasterka 20:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a comparable non-admin contest, someone should add something for tagging WP:ACC accounts for similarity (one of the only jobs on Wikipedia that can specifically only be done by a non-admin, and which I use User:Ais523 non-admin for on occasion). --ais523 11:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A non-admin backlog contest would be an even better idea, IMO, with the massive amounts of cleanup and wikification and categorization and such that still need to be done. Sort of like the spring cleaning idea proposed awhile back. Crystallina 21:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-admins 

message: Where's the score board? >Radiant< 09:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cute idea 

message: How can you penalise people that perform a deletion that gets overturned when the contest will be over before the DRV is finished? The scoring would have to wait at least a week to make sure any penalties were correctly accounted for. --Tango 19:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good question. I don't think it would be too unreasonable to wait until the DRV was over for the final results, if it could change the final outcome. Grandmasterka 08:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DRV takes too long 

message: Any volunteers to give this a try for week starting, say, next Monday? I'm afraid I won't be much help because I'm going on tour for most of June with sporadic internet access, starting next week, and I have a project that's currently occupying much of my time. But I'll keep my score too even though it won't be much at all. Grandmasterka 08:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trial run

message: No comment. hbdragon88 23:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's easy as one two three! 

message: Who maintains the score? Does admin after each admin action update the scoreboard or others go through his log to maintain it or do we have special janitors (volunteers?) to do it? None seems a practical solution to me. --soum talk 16:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Maybe you should add merging articles to this.  Since you have to be an admin to do  history merge, other editors can't help out with this.  :Category:Merge by month has year backlog.--BirgitteSB 11:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion