Talk:TNA Impact!/Archive 2

message: So, to resummarize where we stand, I feel that the guidelines are very explicit with the fact that iMPACT! should be spelled Impact! in the article. TJ, please resummarize where you stand on the guideline so that there are no misunderstandings. -- The Hybrid 05:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that the guidelines do allow for it to be iMPACT. I am still open to the compromise of letting the article be title Impact and using iMPACT in the article itself. TJ Spyke 05:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that it is allowed when you take the spirit of the policy. You Wikilawyered to get it to allow your side to have a chance. -- The Hybrid 05:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying I did, but there is technically nothing wrong with wikilawyering. TJ Spyke 05:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The spirit of the guideline is always taken over a technicality, especially ones as debatable as this one. -- The Hybrid 05:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry but there is no such programme called TNA Impact. It has always and always will be referred to TNA iMPACT!. I think even TV Guides list the programme as TNA iMPACT. I'm actually getting bored. My god, why are we arguing over the name of a TV programme, when we could actually be doing some editing to this article to get it to a better level, instead of bickering like little kids. It seems like some of you people like arguing! Who gives a damn about the name of the programme. Davnel03 18:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's like saying there's no such program as Thirtysomething because it's officially called (by its makers) "thirtysomething." On Wikipedia, per Wikipedia guidelines, it's "Thirtysomething."  And it's false that the program in question here will "always" be referred to as iMPACT, because as a simple matter of fact it is commonly referred to as Impact. I give a damn about the name of the program because I only came to this article through a RfC about the name of the program. And I don't like seeing Wikipedia's policies and guidelines ignored without good reason. PubliusFL 18:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! -- The Hybrid 23:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the same, the guideline specifially names thirtysomething. That is different anyways since that is about words that are all small letters. TJ Spyke 23:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say that it was the same. I was agreeing with PubliusFL in that I don't like to see policies (or their spirits) ignored without a good reason. -- The Hybrid 23:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The guideline specifically names thirtysomething? Exactly!  So you can learn from the example. There's not much use in having a guideline at all if you have to actually list each article that the guideline applies to in the guideline itself to get anyone to follow the guideline, eh? PubliusFL 23:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I didn't say that, I said that the thirtysomething example is for articles that are all small letters. If this was "tna impact!", then that would apply here. TJ Spyke 00:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're still ignoring the spirit of the policy, TJ. -- The Hybrid 00:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: But you did say that, TJ.  You said "This is not the same, the guideline specifially names thirtysomething" (sic).  Then you went on to make the all-lowercase point.  In any event, I brought up Thirtysomething in response to Davne103's suggestion that there is no such program as "TNA Impact" - clearly, the fact that we capitalize a program title differently than the trademark holder doesn't change it into an article about a different program. PubliusFL 01:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you clearly state the spirit of the guideline? --Aaru Bui DII 11:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes.  The letter and spirit of the guideline is, and I'm directly quoting, "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment."  It is not standard English to render the first letter of a proper noun in lowercase and the rest in uppercase.  Croctotheface 23:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, of course. We use standard English orthography even when the mark owner requests special treatment. There's really not much to dispute here. —ptk✰fgs 22:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary section break 1

message: * Replace: |last_aired   = Present
** With: |last_aired   = present
* Replace: ja:TNA 日本語
** With: ja:TNA・インパクト
* Replace: *Mike Tenay (June 2004 - Present)
** With: *Mike Tenay (June 2004 – present)
* Replace: *Don West (June 2004 - Present)
** With: *Don West (June 2004 – present)
Aaru Bui DII 22:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Luigi30 (Taλk) 17:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requesting edit

message: Please don't edit against established consensus, and certainly don't use inaccurate edit summaries to conceal re-introduction of the stylized typography. —ptk✰fgs 23:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dude... it's over. 

message: What exactly is the problem with the Infobox Television template? If the manual of a template which is in wide use suggests a certain formatting, we go with that, for the sake of consistency and to ease editing for as many potential contributors as possible. This isn't really something which should be styled around the personal preferences of local regulars. - Cyrus XIII 07:56, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you really making a big deal out of this? It's just deleting the extra space that exists between the "|" and the first word. Most templates don't use it. Besides, getting rid of it trims the article (albeit by only a few bytes), and is less of an eyesore. Also, the only people who would notice anything are people who edit the page, people just viewing the page will see no difference. TJ Spyke 08:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, your edit before the one you are referring to removed the spaces following the equal signs, meaning those between template code and content, which is a slightly different story, not to mention that the infobox used to have no extra spaces at all, it was a messy pile of data. Also, the argument to just go with what the given template manual suggests, as opposed to fixing self-perceived "eyesores" still stands. - Cyrus XIII 08:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was fine before too. It didn't mess anything up, it reduced, the size of the article a little, and was still easy to edit. The template is not being messed with, nothing was removed with or changed by removing the extra space. So what's the big deal? This seems like a silly issue to argue over. TJ Spyke 09:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then we should just agree that the creators of the template in question, as well as myself disagree with you. - Cyrus XIII 09:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess TJ would also agree with removing the line breaks? --Aaru Bui DII 05:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox formatting

message: TNA announced at No Surrender that Impact will be going to two hours on October 4th. I added a section , and if somebody wants to expand it, that would be greatly appreciated.63.3.9.129 02:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two-Hour Time slot

message: Should this be moved to TNA iMPACT, as that is what it is called? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam123456789 (talk • contribs)   + Should this be moved to TNA iMPACT as that is what it is called  
:It SHOULD, but see Talk:TNA_Impact!/Archive 2 for why it won't. TJ Spyke 21:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. We do not go by the what it is trademarked as. –Cheers, LAX 21:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: *I'm not suggesting a move, I'm just wondering why the TNA Impact! article (both the TV show and the video game) can't be named TNA iMPACT!. Can comeone provide me with a reason?
—SAVIOR_SELF.777 01:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of WP:CAPS.--S</font>RX</font> 02:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, okay. this thing has been bugging me for a while and I wondered why it couldn't be moved. And, I didn't know whether or not to put this on WP:ANC or WT:PW. So, thanks guys. SAVIOR_SELF.777 03:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[TNA Impact!]] → [[TNA Impact!|TNA iMPACT!]]

message: Should this not be added to the Recurring segments Adster95 13:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What is that? Do you mean the Rough Cut segment? TJ Spyke 00:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those? Then the answer is no. This page is for Impact only. Those are features of TNA's website. TJ Spyke 20:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh, I thought that segment was called Rough Cut. I guess that can go in. TJ Spyke 19:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I only started watching Impact again recently, so I don't know when the segment started. Someone else who has that knowledge will have to add it. TJ Spyke 21:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Those videos are online only. They are just featured from time to time on Impact. I remember when those were uploaded on Youtube. There was one for almost everybody. Those aren't needed in recurring segments. They are better set for TNA Today if anything. Considering how much TNA uses their Youtube account, it might be best just to make an article about everything they featured on there.--WillC 10:18, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: TNA Webography

message: There haven't been 263 episodes already. Next week's episode is #200. Oh yes. 41.245.181.0 (talk) 12:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is number 200 on Spike.--WillC 12:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there's no question TNA has been on each week since its Spike TV Debut, just for verification on the episode number, as of today (July 26)  AfroGold - Afkatk 22:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: No. of episodes