Talk:Wattle and daub

message: Are we sure that dung is merely a harmless side-effect of the mixing process? In Botswana, dung is an important component of durable, decorative mud floors in special places like a kgotla, and I think it's used in house-building as well. JackyR 23:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: This seems to be a well written article.  The descriptions of the various construction methods are detailed enough that I almost feel as if I could go build a wattle and daub wall myself.
lichen-studios 04:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All this history... 

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message: I see mention of Hazel.  what else is it made of?  Are the rigid verticals also made of hazel as well as the woven horizontals?  Willow is more flexible and longer-lasting, so is it also used?
IceDragon64 (talk) 21:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Wattle made of...?

message: # Material: What are wattle and daub made of respectively? The construction part talks about the materials generally, but is there a significant difference among different regions in the world? If so, what are the factors that influence the materials?
# History: Is there any good examples of buildings that made of wattle and daub? It would be better if different regions can offer their own examples. Wattle and daub have been used since at least 6000 years ago. Is there any evidence about the exact time when it came into being? And since then, how it developed through time? What are the influences it has on modern architecture?
# Styles of panels: is there any other style?
# Acacias: I don't think it's necessary to make this one a separate item. I think it can be put into the construction part where materials of wattle and daub would be discussed.
# Variations: This part only introduces two variations generally. But what is the relationship between the variations and wattle and daub? Are they inspired by wattle and daub or did they evolve from wattle and daub, or they are just similar with wattle and daub coincidentally? Lath and plaster is mentioned at the beginning, it seems that this one is derived from wattle and daub. So can lath and plaster be put into this part as well? 
#Stephen Mikesell suggests a section on modern revivals, or at least the Zoma Museum in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. It was opened in March 2019 after two decades of construction by cultural anthropologist Meskerem Assegued and artist Elias Sime. It aims at reviving local appreciation and creating interest in modern construction using traditional Ethiopian wattle and daub construction techniques. Their technique of one-month fermentation of the clay-sand-straw-dung mixture creates a stone-hard structure that can be shaped into beautiful and intricate artistic designs. An article about it says "... the right mixture of mud and straw takes some time to be prepared: the material must be mixed every three days for about a month until it is fermented. It then takes some time for the wall to dry and harden. During this period the mud is easy to mold; this allows the builder to get creative." The pictures of the buildings are impressive, to say the least. Right now I am stuck someplace with slow internet and a slower computer and all airplanes out have been cancelled into the unforeseeable future, so I can't easily research it. If somebody doesn't do something with it in the interim I'll try to get to it. There are many articles about it, including a piece on NPR about it (where I first learned about it). I want to search for more technical articles about their construction, if I can find them.
https://www.zomamuseum.org
https://www.facebook.com/Zoma.Museum/
https://www.metropolismag.com/architecture/addis-ababa-zoma-museum-design/pic/51390/
Stephen Mikesell 13:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible additions and source

message: *Construction: 
# In different regions, the material of wattle can be different. For example, in Mitchell Site on the northern outskirts of the city of Mitchell, South Dakota, willow has been found as the wattle material of the walls of the house. 
# Reeds and vines can also be used as wattle material. 
* Variations
# In some places or cultures, similar techniques with wattle and daub were used. Sometimes people use different names for the technique, including pug and pine, mud and stud (stud and mud), hourdis, rab and dab, rad and dab, pierrotage/bousillage (bouzillage) and columage.
# Pierrotage, columage: Pierratage is the infilling material used in French Vernacular architecture of the Southern United States to infill between half-timbering with diagonal braces, which is similar with daub. It is usually made of lime mortar clay mixed with small stones. It is also called bousillage or bouzillage, especially in French Vernacular architecture of Louisiana of the early 1700s. The materials of bousillage are Spanish moss or clay and grass. Bousillage also refers to the type of brick molded with the same materials and used as infilling between posts. Columbage refers to the timber-framed construction with diagonal bracing of the framework. Pierratage or bousillage is the material filled into the structural timbers.
# Lath and plaster: As mentioned before, lath and plaster derived from wattle and daub has been widely used in modern construction.
* Application
# Wattle and daub are mostly used in half-timbered construction or timber-framed house. Bajarreque and jacal are two specific examples of the application of wattle and daub.
# Bajarreque: Bajarreque is a wall constructed with the technique of wattle and daub. The wattle here is made of bagasse, and the daub is the mix of clay and straw.
# Jacal: Jacal can refer to a type of crude house whose wall is built with wattle and daub in southwestern America. Closely spaced upright sticks or poles driven into the ground with small branches (wattle) interwoven between them make the structural frame of the wall. Mud or an adobe clay (daub) is covered outside. To provide additional weather protection, the wall is usually plastered.
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