Talk:Salad cream

message: Does anyone know if salad cream lasts noticeably longer than plain mayonnaise and for what reason this might be? My grandmother has always kept open salad cream bottles out of the fridge, and they seem to last for ages. However, I'm sure mayonnaise would go off in less than 24 hours. Could it be the vinegar maybe? If anyone can confirm that it lasts longer and give an explanation I wouldn't mind adding it to the article. Daniel Medina 08:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Haven't got a bottle to hand, but I'm pretty sure there's no egg in the recipe; maybe that's why?79.66.189.112 (talk) 00:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Its shelf-life is only a few months, and yes - it does indeed contain egg yolks.  You can smell it and taste it.  Great stuff! 73.6.96.168 (talk) 10:40, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking at a salad cream bottle, which has a 'best before' date of ca. 18 months from when I bought it (which of course isn't the same as when it was made, but still). It says "refrigerate after opening, and consume within 8 weeks". My mayonnaise bottle has similar BB shelf life (unopened), and says "refrigerate after opening, and consume within 3 months". So if anything, it would seem that (commercially produced) mayo lasts slightly longer than salad cream. Although having said that, what manufacturers say and what the actual shelf life of a food product is are often two entirely different things; they obvious have several reasons to underestimate it. DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Shelf life

message: At  I ran into the following quote: "rumoured demise of salad cream" and thought it might be worth adding to the article.  However, this was the closest I got to a WP:RS on the subject.  Search engines produced any number of message board mentions, such as:     (search for "salad cream" in those pages as needed).  But has anyone documented this (at a minimum, what year this alleged announcement took place)?  Has it made it to any of the urban legends web sites, or any similar researcher of folklore, the history of business, etc? Kingdon 19:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing Ploy(?) to discontinue salad cream? 

message: Can anyone provide accurate United States nutritional information for both the Salad Cream and Salad Cream Light products?  I contacted the U.S. consumer help line, (800)255-5750, however as it is not distributed in the U.S. they could not help me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.63.94 (talk) 18:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. Nutritional Information ? 

message: Could we include an image? Would the one here constitute fair use? http://www.heinz.co.uk/products/heinz_salad_cream.aspx samwaltz (talk) 19:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use image?

message: Is Miracle Whip dressing considered a salad cream, or at least close enough to merit a mention in the article? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 15:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're in the US, the product that comes closest to Heinz Salad Cream, for taste at least, is Marzetti Slaw Dressing; Miracle Whip doesn't even come close.  I think the question is, "Is Heinz Salad Cream considered to be a salad dressing like Miracle Whip/Best/Hellmann's, et cetera?"  Radiopathy •talk•   00:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mayonnaise is not considered salad dressing in the US. Miracle Whip is labeled as such. I can't imagine that salad cream is that hard to find in the US as it is available (Heinz) at the local supermarket in Fairbanks, Alaska where we have fewer products than most of the lower 48.--Weetoddid (talk) 06:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mayonnaise is not "considered salad dressing" because it is a more specific product with a more constrained standard of identity: the mayonnaise-like products labeled "salad dressing" are called that because they don't meet the labeling standards of official mayonnaise, not because there's any substantial difference in how the product is used. In my experience, Americans use "salad dressing" much more like mayonnaise than like salad dressing. Spark240 (talk) 13:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any difference between "salad dressing" of the Miracle Whip type and "salad cream" other than their wording? Both are, broadly speaking, low-fat imitations of mayonnaise. Indeed the WP article on Miracle Whip states "In 1933 Kraft developed a new dressing similar to mayonnaise, but as a less expensive alternative." To me these belong in the same article. Unless by "salad cream" you refer to a specific brand from the UK, I find it very hard to argue that "Salad cream was not readily available in the United States until the 21st century". 141.48.25.130 (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miracle Whip 

message: I've just consumed a free sample sachet of Heinz Salad Cream, and I must admit that it was really rather good! Keep up the good work...!
82.5.68.95 (talk) 05:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Through my letter box... 

message: "Salad cream was not readily available in the United States until the 21st century."
It was created in Pittsburgh, as were Heinz Baked Beans and many of the Heinz soups sold in the U.K. It and HBB were sold in America for decades. I have several American cookbooks published by Heinz from the 1930s and 1940s which feature photos of pantries stocked with Heinz products, and salad cream is included in all of them. At one time, Heinz in America produced three variations of baked beans: with pork, without pork (vegetarian style), and Boston style. Salad cream and baked beans, which are so readily identified as British, have their origins in America. I would upload a photo from one of my cookbooks, but I don't want to deal with copyright problems. Sd31263 (talk) 14:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry to argue but Heinz's own website  states - "Heinz® Salad Cream was the first brand developed exclusively for the U.K. market. When first created in Heinz’ Harlesden (London) kitchens in 1925 much of the preparation was done by hand ....... " So while it may have found it's way across the pond back in the 30s, it was certainly created in the UK.Geotek (talk) 23:10, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salad Cream was created by the Heinz kitchens in Pittsburgh 

message: I've just read the article and believe that it does not sufficiently distinguish salad cream from mayonnaise. Both seem to have approximately the same ingredients, the same color, and nothing is said about any difference in taste or consistency.
It seems to me that if the ingredients, color, consistency, and taste are the same, there is no real difference between the two, hence this article should be deleted or merged with Mayonnaise. David Spector (talk) 17:19, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not even close.  They're completely different animals. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 05:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not sufficiently distinguished from mayonnaise 

message: "Due to the higher cost of ingredients during periods of rationing in the United Kingdom a flavour similar to mayonnaise was achieved in the creation of salad cream"
The product may have been created in 1914- around the start of the First World War- but there's no evidence provided that this was in response to rationing. While it's clear that there was rationing during WW1- albeit on a more limited scale to that of WW2- that appears to have been mainly later on.
None of the existing references- which aren't even attached to this specific claim- back up the implied assertion that it was created due to rationing; we require this, or the statement should be removed.
Ubcule (talk) 12:13, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rationing claim 

message: First off, I'd like to acknowledge that I live in the USA and have never eaten salad cream.
The ingredients given in the article seem to me to be fairly suspect, or at least are not sufficiently explained.  The ingredients align with those found in the Heinz brand Salad Cream, which may be what the article is supposed to be about.  In which case, I think the article should be renamed Salad Cream (Heinz).  However, since I like trying things and I've successfully made my own mayonnaise a few times, I've been searching online for a recipe for homemade salad cream.  So far, of five recipes I've found, only one includes oil and all of the recipes include some type of cream.  There are other variations including hard-boiled eggs, flour, or vastly different amounts of vinegar and sugar.
So unlike the Heinz brand, oil seems to be a rare ingredient, while cream is ubiquitous.  I can't imagine these recipes produce anything at all similar to the brand product.  Can someone who lives in the UK provide some insight or correction to the article?  LordQwert (talk) 20:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salad Cream Ingredients