Talk:Harry Dresden

message: Why does he carry around the hockey stick? Chris 05:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He uses it as his magic staff. Kishi 06:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: only in the tv series Shinigami Josh 12:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He carries it around in the TV series because a hockey stick is far less noticeable than a rune-covered Staff, especially in Chicago.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.5.70 (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: hockey stick

message: In the books, he doesn't carry a hockey stick -- he carries a wizard's staff, and sometimes a blasting rod! Frau Budgie (talk) 22:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hockey Stick???

message: should it really gon on about it much at all? it comes down to it ALL people die alone, witch makes it a retty bad death curseShinigami Josh 12:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Death Curse

message: What about them? We have the following already published:
* Something Borrowed
* It's My Birthday, Too
* Heorot
And also coming:
* Harry's Day Off
* Untitled (Harry Dresden short story)
* The Warrior
Can they be included in this page too?
--Chemical Rage (talk) 22:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novelettes and Short Stories 

message: the summary of Dresden's  fictional biography in Storm Front isn't well done.  It pays a lot of attention to things that only get a sentence or two in the book, (Elaine for example, isn't even mentioned BY NAME in Storm Front) and almost no attention at all to the books main plot, things we learn about Harry, or a what characters he does meet.   The main plot of the story is almost mentioned as an afterword.  This needs to be TOTALLY re-done.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.222.33.146 (talk) 15:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Storm Front 

message: Invalid since the manuscript was created in 1996 as a writing exercise. Should be noted as a coincidence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.136.147.221 (talk) 19:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potter reference 

message: The character bio is full of spoilers from the most recent book. That seems a little bit unfortunate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.5.70 (talk) 22:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but then there's WP:SPOIL. Besides, Changes has been out for 3 months now. :) Deafgeek (talk) 18:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

text: The novel has been out for a good many years. Little or nothing to spoil. MinorStoop (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not everyone reads the novels as they come out and a lot of people come to these kinds of pages explicitly because they haven't read all of the books and are looking for more info. Voiceofreason01 (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers? 

message: This is not a fan wiki, this is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia project. Merge the important information to The Dresden Files and get otherwisely rid of this "article". --91.97.75.115 (talk) 19:04, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia has established that primary characters in popular series are worthy of their own article.  See: Harry Potter (character), Luke Skywalker, James T. Kirk, or Alaric Morgan (Gwynedd) for examples. SeanNovack (talk) 00:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless article 

message: Pay this no mind, as I just found out that he had joked about being Theological Switzerland, because ve qctually do not have any specific believe whatsoever. So while it seems like he's a wiccan, it is not something he practices, so it's more coincidence that some aspects seem to overlap. 
I have been pondering over the issue that the instigatted religion is incorrect. I believe a religion such as wiccan is a better assumption. Dresden himself say he has no outright belief in anything concerning a specific deity or god. He does however, believe in the five basic elements air, earth, fire, spirit and water. Besides that magic itself works on the principle that it is a tool to help others and an expression of your and believe, it is never the solution. All this points toward a pagan religion rather than a christian religion, which according to my research theological Switzerland(swiss) is. 
Any sources on the currently claimed religion being the most likely?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.56.197.26 (talk) 11:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: He is no wiccan. He is simply not religious. He is aware of the validity of Christianity since the context includes Knights of the Swords of the Cross, the 30 fallen angels bound to the 30 coins of Judas (denarius), and his interaction with angels (ex. Uriel) and fallen angels (ex. Lasciel). He also has interacted with at least one other god (Odin). But he does not practice any religion. SunSw0rd (talk) 02:42, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you forget Dresden's interactions with the Archangel Uriel who tells him about the reality of the soul and its judgement after death. Non-denominationally, of course. But I wouldn't discount the "Theological Switzerland" bit - *I* remember it as statement of intent: Dresden does not care about following any religion because they all get something about reality right and something wrong. Ngebendi (talk) 11:05, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with this is twofold. (And first, I did not discount Uriel, reread my note). Problem one -- you can't find a good definition of "theological Switzerland" on the web -- not as a definition, not as a wikipedia article. Problem two -- the quote comes from Jim Butcher -- the author -- describing himself. Not as a statement about the character Harry Dresden. So I don't agree that the phrase is applicable to Harry. However I do agree with your perspective on Dresden and why he does not follow any particular religion. That is why I feel his religion is most accurately described as "None". SunSw0rd (talk) 16:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dresden's religious beliefs 

message: Is it me, or should the list of his appearances in the novels subsection be trimmed down significantly? The entries seem to be duplicating plot summaries that already exist on the novels' pages. I think that they could stand to be trimmed down to a one or two sentence summary. For example:
:Storm Front
:Harry is introduced as a wizard and a private investigator working in Chicago. He finds himself drawn into the case of an evil sorcerer who is murdering people with black magic.
:Fool Moon
:Harry is once again drawn into a police case; grisly murders committed by what seems to be a werewolf.
etc, etc. I really think it should be done, but I want to give it a few days to see if anyone disagrees first. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 21:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I just made the edit, since no-one seemed to want to argue. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 19:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Novels 

message: I'd like to add that linking the items found in the vault to existing wikipedia pages is premature.  Harry himself has not discovered what the items are or do and unless Jim Butcher has made announcements (which I doubt) the links should be removed. ‎157.203.176.132 (talk) 07:40, February 9, 2016‎ (UTC)
:They were pretty strongly implied to be the items linked to. In addition, it was all but stated categorically that they were important religious artifacts having to do with Jesus, which really narrows down the list of possibilities. I think it's safe for now. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 13:39, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Items from the vault 

message: As many people may or may not have noticed the entire article doesn't very well conform to wikipedia standards as there is little citation and the tone on many of the lower areas is less that clinical, I originally intended to try and fix this but i don't have the patience or the in-depth knowledge of either the Book or TV-verse to do this. No offense to any contributors so far as you have done far more than I but the tone currently comes off as verging on Fan-girl/boy-ish and that ought to be changed. 
TLDR: Someone bring this up to standards please, I'm a lazy bastard and don't want to do all the research myself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.14.218.55 (talk) 14:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that this is a page about a fictional character, most of the citations would be to the books that character appears in, and generally don't need to be called out (if a reader can't figure out that info about a fictional character is from the works they appear in, they have bigger problems than the quality of a WP article). Other than that, I'll take a look through the page, see if I can't tweak the language to be more neutral. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 12:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I went over a lot of the article and made some changes (I pruned up the mundane skills section considerably). While I appreciate your concerns, I have to say that I don't really share them. Much of the prose is written in quite neutral tones. I believe the focus on describing his skills, abilities and talents might be the 'fanboy' like material you referred to, but as a fictional character in a series built upon confrontation, it would not be possible to have an objective article about him that did not focus on such things. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 14:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP (clean this place up) 

message: I deleted the refimprove template because this is an article about a fictional character: descriptive information about him unambiguously comes from the referenced source material, similar to a book plot. This is an acceptable use of primary sources. I'm not strongly opposed to adding cite notes to those sources (identifying from which books the statements are derived), but I think it might take some convincing to get me to support it. It seems like a lot of work for little to no gain.
As to the other template, I took a look at the article and have to agree with it. I'll see what I can do about trimming it down tomorrow. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 04:29, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted template