Talk:History of homosexuality

message: VfD vote - removed April 16, 2004 - no concensus to delete
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Texture (talk • contribs) 15:26, 16 April 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Could anyone help complete this page? I am looking forwards to it. Thanks! --FallingInLoveWithPitoc 04:55, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Why removed the notice above? I think a lot of parts in this page need to be improved, and almost all content in the page was moved from Homosexuality. :O --FallingInLoveWithPitoc 05:24, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete the page?

message: At some point I plan to add a lot of content on the history of discrimination against homosexuality.  Most articles related to the subject briefly touch on negative attitudes & discrimination but mostly in the modern context with no understanding of the basis of long-held notions.  I'm wondering if it's more appropriate to put that content here or on a separate page, perhaps a "History of Heterosexism" page.  Right now I'm leaning toward putting it here, but if this article becomes at all comprehensive with what's available, it will quickly outgrow this page.
Markwiki (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate pages?

message: I propose changing the name of this article from History of Homosexuality to History of Western Homosexuality, or History of Homosexuality in the West.  History of homosexuality outside the west is given only in the form of links to dedicated pages (eg: History of Homosexuality in China). Exploding Boy 04:29, Jan 24, 2004 (UTC)
:Well, I think keeping this title will be useful. I will try to expand the homosexuality in the east, but I think we will finally split this article into several articles as the content being added; maybe later we would have different articles about the history of homosexuality in different countries! (i am planning to write Homosexuality in the United States). BTW, do u think the current structure of the article is good? I think I made a bad beginning. --Yacht (Talk)Q 01:57, Jan 27, 2004 (UTC)
    Good point about adding histories of homosexualities in other countries.   
    This article could become more general as other articles expand.  It's   
    looking good so far though  Exploding Boy 08:41, Jan 27, 2004 (UTC)
I think this article is great...but I'd like to see a lot more between ancient times and modern times.  The molly clubs for example.
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See: History of sexuality, which contains the content from this article.-Hyacinth 19:42, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed name change

message: What happened to the text in the section regarding Ancient Egypt? Bfotino (talk) 15:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Ancient Egypt 

message: How on earth did that happen in spite of Islam? The Islamic legal system doesn't tolerate it. 
Abu Dawub 4462 reads:
And Bell 1979:13 reads:
By the way, the 16th century—leave alone the 18th century—absolutely does not belong to ancient times, so the section shouldn't be titled “Ancient Persia.” EIN (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persia 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Wikipedia has an entry on "History of Homosexuality" so it should have one on "History of Heterosexuality". Right now if you search for History of Heterosexuality you are sent to "History of Sexuality" -- which implicitly equates heterosexuality with the universal sexuality. This is outright bigotry. Jonathan Ned Katz, author, The Invention of Heterosexuality (1995).Jnkatz1 (talk) 14:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia doesn't work like that. See Wikipedia:Other stuff exists.--Shantavira|feed me 12:13, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "History of Homosexuality", the title, furthers the anti-gay agenda of making people believe that homosexuality is a choice. The title implies, erroneously, that homosexuality is an invention. That makes it a cultural practice spread by socialization (teaching) rather than an innate aspect of human sexuality, one that has always existed. That there is no corresponding "History of Heterosexuality" fits perfectly with this error, furthering the erroneous paradigm.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.194.198 (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Heterosexuality 

message: The section on the 19th century had a link to the Wikipedia article on Seafarers, the group of people who live on water in south and east Asia.   There's not even the remotest mention of sexuality of any form.  I have removed the link.98.66.40.110 (talk) 17:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seafarers 

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message: The article should be re-titled. The current title erroneously implies that homosexuality is an invention, a cultural practice that is taught. Better titles might be Known History of Homosexuality or Homosexuality, Current Historical Knowledge. Those makes it clearer that it's not about pretending that homosexuality is an invention that started at some point after the beginning of humanity — a practice that's spread due to culture (socialization) rather than being innate to human sexuality (biological). I made the same point in the unfortunately-titled "History of Lesbianism" article's Talk page, as the problem is identical.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.194.198 (talk) 05:17, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Another person brought up the lack of a "History of Heterosexuality" article for parity and that is an excellent point, as the lack of such parity furthers the same false narrative about homosexuality being an invention spread by socialization, rather than being an innate facet of biological human sexuality.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.194.198 (talk) 05:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article's title is misleading