Talk:Brian Urlacher

message: Brian is no longer with the bears
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4682791/urlacher-begins-his-first-free-agency  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatguyinchair3 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look here:  Urlacher is a UFA, and UFAs will stay with his team until July 22. The Bears also have yet to announce that he has been released, so he gets signed by a team, he can still be considered a Bear for now. ZappaOMati 03:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Free Agent

message: Why is Urlacher skipping out on the Probowl this year? I never heard if he had an injury or what.
:I'm not exactly sure, I guess he didn't want to go. --ShadowJester07 03:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro Bowl 

message: Parts of this article seem to be take directly (or with minimal rephrasing) from the copyrighted entry at http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Urlacher/Urlacher_bio.html. - David Oberst 04:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh? I made sure to paraphrase most of the article. Sorry, but I re-wrote this article during the period of my life where I would only get three hours of sleep a day. ;-) Are there any parts in particular that stick out? I'll gladly fix them. --ShadowJester07 05:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Alright, Thanks for your helpful advice :) On Second thought, I think I maybe be able to rework portions of the article which were *ahem* "borroweed" from the JockBio Website.  --ShadowJester07 05:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible copyright violation

message: Removed "Many NFL icons such as Tom Brady, and Jeff Garcia have admitted to being intimidated by Brian" as the link provided (http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Urlacher/Urlacher_mysay.html) said nothing of the sort. Thedoorhinge 02:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Opps, It's under the "They Say" section --ShadowJester07 03:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "You watch him play and he’s all over the place.” —Patriots quarterback Tom Brady... that means he's intimidated? give me a break. Removed it again. Thedoorhinge 03:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal

message: In his college years it says he was converted to LB, but does not say where he played before.
:His original position, Safety. ;) The same position he played during his early years of school. --ShadowJester07 15:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous position ? 

message: Urlacher is a four time Pro Bowler, not a five time Pro Bowler.  Although his Bears bio calls him a "five time Pro Bowl selection," that is misleading, as it counts 2004, when he was named a first alternate for the Pro Bowl, he wasn't actually named to the team.  He's only actually been selected to four Pro Bowls (2001, 2002, 2003, and 2005).  See:2005 Pro Bowl (which is the Pro Bowl played following the 2004 season in question).-PassionoftheDamon 01:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro Bowls

message: Hi, I just read over the article and gave it an evaluation according to WP:WIAGA . In general, it is a nice article, and definitely in GA range, but still has room for improvement.
#Well written - Pass.
#Verifiable - FAIL. "Early life" and "college career" are quite under-referenced; 1 ref pro paragraph is near-mandatory. Also the "professional career" part could verified better. Also, he is an athlete, so putting in some remarkable stats (especially regular-season stats, not just single games) seems more than appropriate. Why is he a 4/5-time Pro Bowler and NFL Defensive Player of the Year? What is his role in the "smothering Bears defense"? Is he one cog in the machine, or the leader? Tell us! :) In general, these sections should look just like "personal life", which is the one section which is really bullet-proof referenced.
#Broad - Pass. Great athlete, great role model, video game icon.
#NPOV - Neutral. "Monster of the Gridiron"? Has someone remarkable said that? I am not an NFL follower.
#Stable - Pass. See history of this article.
#Images - FAIL. Unfortunately, the NFL video game pic lacks a fair use rationale for Brian Urlacher, it only states it is used to show the game in question, NFL 2K3. Please add these lines.
Looking forward to your wiki-ing, —Onomatopoeia 14:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added some more references which should verify and support Urlacher's professional and college career. It has been kind of difficult, but I've included some statistics which should distinguish Urlacher as one of the Bears' statistical leaders. I Changed "Monsters of the Gridiron" to "Monsters of the Midway", which is a nickname for Bears' greats. The picture's fair use rationale has also been fixed. :) --ShadowJester07 00:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It's close now. For the "Early life" and "College career", I noticed that nice jockbio link , which basically covers everything. Just put it in as a reference multiple times, thus sourcing he was parent of X and Y, his mother had a hard life with multiple jobs, he was a receiver / safety, he struggled initially under Franchione and thrived under Long etc. That jockbio link then should appear as "jockbio.com a b c d e f g h" or such, thus providing rock-solid reference for these parts. If you do that, I'll award the GA. —Onomatopoeia 08:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the Multi References, which cover Urlacher's Early Life, and College career at under Franchione. I hope it's better now  --ShadowJester07 23:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA on hold

message: After repairing your good multiple-referencing job, I have decided to pass this article. Congratulations!
#Well written - pass. I am defititely more interested in Urlacher.
#Verifiable - pass. Now very securely referenced.
#Broad - Pass. See above.
#NPOV - so-so pass. Still not entirely comfy with "monsters", but that's just me I guess.
#Stable - Pass. 
#Images - Pass. Image now well added under fair use.
#Misc - yes, I changed the article myself, but only to fix a well-meant, but not perfectly executed referencing job (ref names must not be seperated by blank spaces)
Keep up the good job. If you want to promote it as an FA though (featured article), be sure to get a peer review first, this will weed out many little errors. But as of now, have fun with that green cross. —Onomatopoeia 21:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your advice, help, time. :) --ShadowJester07 23:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA passed

message: Various Sources have claimed Urlacher to be Humble:
* His Former Classmates
* Reports from his Return to UNM
* Observations from the Chicago Suntimes 
* The Defense of his struggling team matrs
*Quotes from Urlacher's JockBio Page
*His Coaches have dubbed Urlacher as the Quarterback of the Defense. USA Today also talks about Urlacher's Character 
:Sorry, but just because a friend in an interview or two referred to Urlacher as being "humble" doesn't change the fact that it's a speculative, subjective characterization--not a fact--that has no more place in an encyclopedic article than a sentence declaring Picasso as the greatest painter ever.  It's the same reason why, say, the opening paragraph doesn't describe Urlacher as "overrated" just because he was so voted by his peers.  Not to mention you failed to show any causal connection between Urlacher's alleged "humble mentality" and his supposed "iconic" status.  It's a purely hyperbolic statement that cannot stand.-PassionoftheDamon 22:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, All righty then. Thanks for taking the time to explain your rationale :) --ShadowJester07 22:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem.  I should also note that there would be no objection if somewhere within the body of the article you wanted to include a statement along the lines of, "Urlacher is known among friends and teammates for his humble/down-to-earth personality" since the sources you provided above do provide some anecdotal support for the proposition that he is perceived that way by friends and teammates.  It's the difference between saying Urlacher is in fact humble (speculative) and saying that he is perceived as humble by a specific group of people (verifiable).  Hope that helps!-PassionoftheDamon 20:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Humble Mentality

message: I hate to be a jackass (do this on a lot of articles) but I don't think two of those images fit the fair-use criteria. The first one, it said "for identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents". But the article never mentioned its program he appeared him. So the picture is representing Urlacher, which could be replaced by a free image easy enough (games, autograph signings, publicity events). Then the other picture toward the bottom had Urlacher on a magazine, but the magazine or the magazine issue was never discussed. Again, this is being used to represent Urlacher which can be done by a free image so it fails fair use criterias. Also, I added a reference to his interception at the Jets game so it looks like I added to a bit of the article.++aviper2k7++ 05:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No Problem. Sorry for the Copy Vio Issues, It's kind of ironic since I myself also tag and remove several copy vio images very day :p --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   06:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The word stripper is only used once. I'm guess you may be looking at an older revision --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   20:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

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