Talk:Pelican crossing

message: AFAIK, called "pelican" for PEdestrian LIght Control. needs checking -- Tarquin — Preceding undated comment added 14:11, 16 December 2002‎
: No, they've definitely also been Pelicon crossings — see Google and try to ignore the links that have come straight from this article — which suggests (to me, at least) 'schwa elision' as the reason for Pelican. It was only on reading this article recently that I realised the A wasn't a misspelling! :o) — OwenBlacker 21:24, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)
The crossing should be called "Pelicon", but because it sounds like Pelican and Pelicon isn't in the dictionary or spellcheckers, it has become known as Pelican. The UK highways agency or DETR call it Pelicon. Will find references later.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.224.204 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 6 January 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: In Germany crossing on a red man can attract a fine wheras in the UK it's up to the pedestiran risking it and if there is no traffic a person will cross on a "red man".  Any info on different juristrictions would be interesting. Dainamo 00:20, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: The law

message: In a small town in Colorado, I overheard a youngish mother telling her kids: "The Dude means go and The Hand means stop" Pedant
{{subst:undated|21:04, 4 February 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anecdote 

message: Someone ought to tell the publishers of the Highway Code!  Kevin McE (talk) 18:05, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Incorrectly" called pelican? 

message: The article says
:The Pelican crossing was the first definitive light controlled crossing for pedestrians in the UK, introduced in 1969
although the date is not given a citation. But the OED's earliest entry for the term is from the Evening Standard of 26 May 1966:
:We hope the Ministry will install ‘pelicans’..in the town. Pelicans would be safer than zebras and easily understood by the public—the pedestrian just pushes a button which operates red, amber and green lights telling motorists when to stop.
Can anyone explain the three-year gap? Marnanel (talk) 14:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  1969 

message: The "X-way crossing" to which this page refers was a short-lived development of the earlier panda crossing.  See http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/pedestriancrossings/5.shtml. 
Making the words "X-way crossing" into a link is not very helpful, as there is no Wikipedia page for the X-way crossing.  Instead X-way crossing goes to a disambiguation page which states that the term refers either to a "predecessor to the pelican crossing" (redirecting us back to where we started) or to a pedestrian scramble - which is an entirely different type of crossing.  
So the link does not provide any more information than is already on this page.  That being the case, it seems pointless to even have a link - "X-way crossing" might as well just be ordinary text.  
TomH (talk) 06:05, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-Way 

message: I've never heard of this being called a "pelican" crossing (I'm from Europe, but not UK). AFAIK it's simply called a zebra crossing with traffic lights. 93.136.47.163 (talk) 06:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like Australia uses the term. This needs a source about how the crossings are named around the world, rather than one person extrapolating from their own local observations. --Lord Belbury (talk) 09:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It will be hard to find sources to prove that a concept does NOT exist in other countries. IMO evidence should instead be provided for the claim that other countries do use this name. 93.142.105.199 (talk) 04:25, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Which is why the article shouldn't make the claim that no country in the world apart from UK and Australia uses this term, when no evidence is available and it's hard to verify. "In some countries outside of the UK and Australia" is at least anecdotally confirmable for now. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If I were to assert that the animal donkey is called "donkey" in every human language in the donkey article, surely you agree it wouldn't be up to you to dig up a Mongolian dictionary to delete that claim, right? The sentence you want to be in the article and the [citation needed] next to it, suggest that we are to presume until proven wrong that this English language term, which is a pun understandable solely in the English language, is somehow recognizable in every country on Earth. The skeptical stance is to presume that the term is not defined in countries other than those for which proof is provided. 93.136.27.205 (talk) 05:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK name