Talk:The Thin Red Line (Battle of Balaclava)

message: Having listened to the utube link given for The Green Hills of Tyrol, I cannot hear any reference to "The thin red line," although the singers voice is very clear.  I propose we delete this, since several items in this section are very tenuous.  There were probably a lot of songs written during the Crimean War!
Dendrotek 09:01, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical references 

message: If you listen to the band's song in question you'll hear a sort of chant at the end of the song that is more likely to be of native african origin than with east european folks. IMHO this song more so refers to the Boer War. If you interprete the song further it seems that those people who the soldiers are deemed to protect are not dislocated far away from the faint frontline. It seems that this TRL is the last line of defense to prevent a massacre under the civilians close by. If this is true the song can not reflect the Crimerian War with the soldier's relatives a thousand miles or so away.
--Infanteriesoldat (talk) 22:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other source of inspiration for SAXON 

message: This article says a Russian cavalry force of 25,000 attacked the British.  That sounds a wee bit high considering that there were 25,000 Russians in total at the battle of Balaklava and I doubt they were all cavalry.
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Response:
You are correct. About 20,000 Russians were present at Balaclava under Liprandi, but most of them were infantrymen stationed on the heights around the battlefield, and they didn't see any action. 
Only several thousand Russians actually engaged in the fighting.
Note that it is an open question as to what Liprandi's intentions were: the Russians claim that Balaclava was merely a probing action, not an attempt at a decisive attack. Only in the West is it written that Balaclava was a serious attempt at capturing the Allied position.
Finally, it is wrong to regard the repulse of the Russian cavalry as having had a decisive outcome. After being roughed up by the British, the cavalrymen merely retreated to the safety of their own lines and the battle continued.
Regarding merging this article with the Battle of Balaclava:
Probably it would be better to let this article stand alone, but to eliminate the campaign box so that the reader doesn't mistake it as standing for the entirely of the Battle of Balaclava.
An paragraph could be added to the top explaining that this incident was part of the Battle of Balaclava, and a link to the main battle article should be included.
It sounds like the author's intention was to describe and celebrate the exploits of the 93rd Highlanders during the Crimean War. Perhaps he could round the article out by telling us more about this regiment, its history, and the history of Highlander infantrymen?
Certainly the 93rd Highlanders' performance at Balaclava is very famous, so that alone warrants an independent article about them.
Kenmore 08:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  25,000???? 

message: The text says there were 2500 russian cavalry, the info box says 400. which is right? Epeeist smudge 14:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No of Cavalry

message: The article says, that the painting is in Stirling. I have just been in Edinburgh castle, and the painting was on display at the British War Museum. I think it was the original one, but I'm not sure. Can anybody confirm?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mp663 (talk • contribs) 11:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Robert Gibb's painting 

message: The article contains this line "The rest of Rijov's force attacked the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders"
This is confusing. Most readers will take this as a reference to the unit created in 1881 by the amalgamation of the 93rd Highland Regiment with the 91st (Princess Louise's) Argyllshire Highlanders. 
According to http://www.theargylls.co.uk/service93rd.php at the time of the Crimean War the regiment was designated "93rd (Highland) Regiment of Foot" and formed part of the Highland Brigade (42nd, 79th and 93rd Regiments). The 91st was not in the Crimea.
I have not checked beyond this one source but assume its timelines are reliable. The history of designations of the 91st http://www.theargylls.co.uk/service91st.php does not seem consistent, so I have some doubts about details and completeness.
RabGSutherland (talk) 10:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 

message: I don't see any reference to the Casualties. Does anyone know them? 81.158.49.174 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties 

message: This article entirely misses the point, since it is predicated on a misquoting of Russel's original phrase  "a thin red streak tipped with steel" which only merits a passing mention.
However there was no military action 'The Thin Red Line.' The now familiar phrase refers to an episode during the battle of Balaklava, and is quoted in reference to that.  It recalls the stand of the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders. Nothing more.  It is a catch phrase, not a historical event in itself.
'The Thin Red Line' was the regimental journal of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
It is also the name of a military march. it is not th ename of a battle. 
JF42 (talk) 22:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Thin Red Line was a military action ... 

message: This does not make sense:
"This original Russian cavalry force divided itself into two smaller groups, and only about 400 of them were involved in the "Thin Red Line" incident. These 400 Russians were the Cossacks and Ingermanlandsky hussars of the 6th Hussar Brigade, commanded by General Rijov. The rest of Rijov's force attacked the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders."
So, which of rijov's men attacked?
JF42 (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description of  of which Russian cavalry attacked 93rd Regt 

message: "a single regiment now known as the Argyll and Sutherland battalion of the Royal Regiment of Scotland."
The 5th Battalion (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) Royal Regiment of Scotland having ben reduced to a single company (Balaklava Company)  in 2012, this passage needs to be updated.
JF42 (talk) 17:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argyll and Sutherland battalion