Talk:The Price Is Right/Archive 3

message: I have moved the The Price Is Right article to The Price Is Right (1972 US version) because of the following reasons:
* It is confusing, as there are many versions.
* It is very short sighted to assume that everyone that reads Wikipedia is an American, so don't assume that the reader is an American. An added bonus is that American readers may find out about the other versions they didn't know existed.
Thank you. Kramden4700 01:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose. Well, I would have hoped to discuss this before the move was made. Even though there are several versions, I believe the current U.S. version deserves primacy simply based on its ubiquitousness. All other versions (except one) are spinoffs of this one, so those should be disambiguated. The original version, although popular in its own right, has been surpassed by the current version. Rather than list the entire rundown in a DAB line, the otheruses template would perhaps be more appropriate. Also, the "1972 version" is correct by standard, but it leads to "reambiguation," or confusion that this is not the current run of the program. Therefore, while technically correct, it should be moved back to avoid confusion. —Twigboy 04:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, he's actually not a sockpuppet -- not that anyone's ever going to believe that, I don't think.  It's becoming increasingly clear that you're guilty until proven innocent around here, regardless of official site policy, and since I can't prove he isn't me, this just doesn't look like it's gonna go away. -TPIRFanSteve 16:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

text:  Um, Mr. Roth... Did you happen to notice that the person you have just accused of being a sockpuppet of TPIRFanSteve has voted AGAINST him in this very discussion? Lambertman 15:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. However I was using this  as evidence. Also, Plinky says -this should prove I am not a sockpuppet of TPIRFanSteve. So one could assume that he is voting against to make one think he is not a sockpuppet. Wrath of Roth 15:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If one used a sockpuppet to cancel out his own vote on a subject he is interested enough in to make it part of his Wikiusername, then they wouldn't quite grasp the "sockpuppet" idea, would they? Lambertman 15:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would make sense if one was to claim that the person wasn't their sockpuppet to have the sockpuppet oppose them making it appear that it was actually another person. 209.137.173.69 16:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe it's not a sockpuppet at all? Lambertman 16:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps he/she/it is not. Wrath of Roth 16:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: I do appreciate the interest taken in improving the article, but simply placing different tags like confusing and context without discussion is not much of a help. Seeing as the cleanup tag is already there, it would seem that the point of attention has already been made. There is an ongoing discussion on improving the article, and I think adding to the discussion is far more helpful that creating a bank of improvement tags at the top of the article. For those reasons, I am removing those tags, but please participate in the discussion. —Twigboy 04:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tags 

message: Since the editor who formerly placed this template onto the article was banned because of his inflammatory username, and the actions that show that he was true to his user name, I had reverted the edits that had inserted the template. Recently, a user who contributed above warning people of TPIRFanSteve's supposed sockpuppets reverted my edit, and I changed it back. Unless another editor finds that this article is biased or has some NPOV violations, then perhaps the template has a place. Ryulong 05:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Keep in mind: This article is about the current version of the US game show. For other versions, see... Since this precedes the first word about the U.S. version, how is there any bias against international versions of the show? Perhaps we should add the confusing and context tags back in to make sure that the reader has to scroll to see any part of this article besides the title. I just wish that more contributors took as much interest in the cleanup tag and discussion I started, rather than the first four words in 22-point Helvetica.—Twigboy 00:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, OK, scratch my earlier comments. Let me start again. Twigboy is correct — the article starts with a disclaimer stating this article is about the US game show, and has links for others who want information about various international versions. Yes, this article does need cleanup (badly), and the suggestions of Twigboy and others re: cleanup are a good idea. My earlier statement about how many a Wikipedia article will, when first written, more often than not have the geographic bias from where it originated until edited by people elsewhere stands. I do not think the US bias tag is appropriate for this specific article. However, to make peace, I think a separate, world-encompassing article on TPiR is a good idea, with separate pages for specific versions; see the Deal or No Deal article for an idea. [[Briguy52748 12:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The former insertion of {{tl|bias}} 

message: Well I come to this article every once in a while and now there is a tag for "not representing a world-wide view", why? This article is about the US version and their are other articles for the other versions. 69.121.67.198 09:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the tag? 

message: I moved the article earlier and incorporated Lambertman's proposed general article into The Price Is Right so it is now a brief description of the idea for the show and a list of various shows around the world. I think that it will address the American bias issues, but still this article needs some major league clean up. Hopefully we can all work together to find a solution. Buckner 1986 00:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you propose? [[Briguy52748 15:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved