Talk:Danger Man

message: Please consider joining the project! HowardBerry 19:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe there's a soundtrack CD which features both "HighWire" and "Secret Agent Man" together with other musical themes from the series. - Lee M 23:41, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: All four seasons of the series are now available on DVD in North America, using the original Danger Man credits and theme music, rather than the Secret Agent version.
I just bought the complete series boxset from A&E, and it's only the complete hour-long set... not the previous halfhour series.
... and upon edit, I will correct myself. The A&E "Secret Agent aka Danger Man" boxset only includes th 47 eps of "Secret Agent", what they're calling the hourlong series. Apparently claiming that to be its US release name.
There is a separate 39 episode set of the first season, which they call Danger Man. 
Guh. Frickin' A&E.
: Yeah, I don't know why they didn't release the 1960 series as a "Set 0" or something like that, but at least they did release it because it's brilliant. (It was not released until nearly a year after the Megabox which is why these episodes aren't included. Incidentally, it is correct to refer to the hour-long episodes by the name Secret Agent because that was their broadcast title on CBS and that is how they've been syndicated over here since the 1960s so they needed to use the American title over top of the UK original. However the first season aired as Danger Man in the US (although according to one reference book I read awhile back, the half-hour episodes were at one point syndicated in America as Secret Agent as well.) However you have brought to my attention the potential for some confusion on the DVD issue so I'll reword it. Thanks. 23skidoo 04:45, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Four Seasons on US DVD? Don't Think So... 

message: Not true that these were never seen in the US prior to the DVDs. Channel 48 in San Jose, California ran both the US and UK versions in the early 80's as part of an amazing Saturday afternoon package of 60's and 70's reruns they called "Those Fascinating Men." Package included the Lawford "Thin Man" series, the Michael Rennie "The Third Man," "Burke's Law," "The Persuaders" and on and on. Ahh, the good old days of independent TV.
: Please feel free to add that to the main article. It's an interesting fact to note. 23skidoo 03:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danger Man titles/opening sequence in the US 

message: The following paragraph has been deleted because it is unsourced and appears to be completely speculative (and also, what role did Smart's sister play?). The fact a relation of Smart appeared in The Prisoner has nothing to do with the relationship between the two men. If a citation is available, please add it and the paragraph can go back in:
On the other hand,one of the first characters to be seen in 'The Prisoner' is in fact, Ralph Smart's actress sister, Patsy Smart, suggesting relations between the two men were perfectly cordial. Patrick McGoohan evidently considered he was playing two different characters in John Drake and Number Six, but admitted that he used the plaform of a 'secret agent' as a way to introduce his new series to the watching public. That Number Six had been a secret agent is evident from the whole ethos of 'The Prisoner'. The allegory of the fight his secret agent had, to maintain his individuality, to the battle that every man can share in their own everyday life, was equally clear.
23skidoo 14:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was been added back in, and has now been deleted again. In fact, I've done a major cull of original research and fancruft so that this article reads more like an encyclopedic article and less like a debate or a fan magazine. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 14:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted paragraph

message: My edit (which was done as an IP as I was logged out without realizing) was removed as being unsourced. In fact, as stated in the edit, the program is the source, and the material I added is as verifable as the rest of the material in the paragraph. Its removal renders the paragraph a factual error as it describes only the 30-minute version of the series as broadcast in 1960-61 and does not reflect the series as broadcast from 1964-66. 23skidoo (talk) 00:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted content re: program format

message: Is DangerMouse a parody/homage of Danger Man? If so, is this fact worthy of a mention in this article? Applejuicefool (talk) 19:08, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They're both about British secret agents... Applejuicefool (talk) 18:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danger Mouse? 

message: Why does this page have a 'Peter Yates' navbox at the bottom? That name doesn't appear anywhere else in the article. --Masamage ♫ 03:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Yates? 

message: I'm no great fan of abstract musing on Wikipedia, but I've just been watching the complete series from A&E, and noticed two unexplained shifts in production. Perhaps there is some interesting story behind them? Or I'm misreading? 1) Watching the end of the 30 minute episodes, then the start of the 60 minute episodes, there's a sudden drop in intensity in McGoohan's performance -- there was even an atypical small acting error (some word fumbled, I think). After a few of the 60 minute episodes the usual intensity resumes. One would have thought McGoohan was thrilled to have the show picked up and turned into an hour format. If so, he doesn't demonstrate it. 2) I enjoy the series sets and locales (if only Dr. Who had the same during those years): Again I may be misreading, but it seems that the last handful of shows were ever more experimental, and often expensive. It doesn't appear that the producers or directors were losing interest in the show -- it wasn't a cash cow they were running into the ground -- rather the contrary. Isn't that an odd moment for McGoohan to quit? The Prisoner couldn't have waited a year?  (In this, I'm not accepting McGoohan's statement that the show was "repeating itself" as a sufficient explanation. That would be more true for the early episodes ?)
Oh, also...I promise I'm not developing a habit of wandering questions...why do modern British series have a half dozen episodes in a "season"...and all the while complaining about the pressure of production schedules (E.g., Red Dwarf, Faulty Towers), yet Danger Man had a significantly higher rate of production (and certainly not worse production values). What's the difference between the production situations?  Piano non troppo (talk) 01:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wondered the same thing myself; at the moment, I'm enjoying the half-hour Danger Man episodes from Netflix.  Perhaps it's the difference between the non-commercial BBC "season" and the commercial ATV/ITV "season." Wi2g 16:36, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Wandering questions about production

message: Although we have Brian Clemens quoted as referring to "View from the Villa" as a "pilot" episode, I can find no indication that the series produced a separate episode which was then used to sell the series, and then production began in full later ... which is the definition of pilot. As far as I know production just began. (A similar error is made when referring to An Unearthly Child, the first serial of Doctor Who as a pilot; it was just the start of production for an already-sold series. Unless there's objection I'll change the wording to say "first episode". There are a couple of books around about Danger Man. if "Villa" was in fact filmed in advance of regular production, I'm willing to stand corrected. 23skidoo (talk) 19:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're wrong about Doctor Who and "An Unearthly Child". That is the title of the programme's pilot episode. The script was slightly rewritten (Susan originally said she was from a specific far-future century instead of "...another time, another place," and the Doctor did not have his "...wanderers in the fourth dimension..." speech), the characterization of the Doctor somewhat reworked, and a second version was recorded for the series itself. This pilot was released on VHS twice, first on The Hartnell Years and then on Edge of Destruction and the Original Pilot. I don't know for sure, but it is probably in the DVD collection of odd episodes and incomplete stories from the 1960s era. I've never encountered anyone referring to the transmitted version as the pilot. As for your actual issue here, I think the quote from Clemens means that until and unless documentation to the contrary is found, "Villa" should remain considered a pilot. --Ted Watson (talk) 23:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, the so-called pilot was never filmed as a pilot (this per the "The Beginning" DVD release. Due to technical issues encountered during production the BBC rejected it for broadcast and asked Verity Lambert to remount it; in the weeks between this decision and production resuming, changes were made. The unbroadcast version only ever came to be referred to as the pilot when it was first shown to the public in the early 90s, and only to differentiate it from the broadcast version. And I have seen "An Unearthly Child" in general referred to as the pilot episode. If you look at television pilot you'll see there are other examples where the term has been incorrectly applied. Clemens comment is evidence, but Clemens was only a writer on the show. If someone can provide a quote from Ralph Smart or McGoohan regarding this issue, I would consider it stronger evidence. Also, as noted, there are several books on the history of the series which also would indicate the correct way to refer to "Villa". I do know per Fairclough's Prisoner Companion and Jaffer Ali's book on the Prisoner that it is definitely incorrect to refer to The Prisoner's "Arrival" episode as a pilot, but once again this has been done after-the-fact to refer to the unbroadcast version of Arrival, so to differeniate it from the version aired. But The Prisoner was not sold based upon Arrival and Doctor Who was not sold based upon either version of An Unearthly Child, so that goes against the definition of pilot. 23skidoo (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The first version of "An Unearthly Child" was shot as a pilot, according to Doctor Who Magazine and many other learned sources. The only "technical issues encountered during production" were resolved with a retake of the last ten minutes or so right then and there, and this can be seen in both VHS releases I cited. The Hartnell Years also shows the creative alterations I described. I did not mean to suggest that there have not been instances of series being sold without a pilot or that the term had never been inappropriately applied; I know all too well to the contrary. While I agree that it is not all that likely that "Villa" was a pilot, the specific statement from Clemens that it was and none to the contrary mean that the statement should remain in the article; Wiki regs have been thusly arbitrarily applied to a number of my edits, as well taken but as unsupported as yours. Being an administrator does not mean that the regs don't apply to you or your work. --Ted Watson (talk) 22:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

text: That "Villa" wasn't the first episode filmed/pilot makes sense, as there are three episodes credited as having been shot at Portmeirion, and they probably got all those scenes in one trip. There would, of course, be no such thing done when filming a pilot. --Ted Watson (talk) 22:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pilot?

message: I took out the speculative reference that the show "may" at some point be made available on Hulu and uncited speculation re:HDTV. All that violates WP:CRYSTAL. Let's wait till announcements are made. 68.146.62.92 (talk) 03:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Streaming

message: I thought, and I'm hoping someone can verify this, that the building Drake walks out of (and then gets into his car) in the titles of the 30 minute series is the Royal Festival Hall.  Does anyone know if this is the case? Howie ☎ 12:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia? 

message: ===Season three (1965-1966)===
Some books list episodes 3-1 to 3-10 as part of series 2. 
The airdate again is for ATV Midlands.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by REVUpminster (talk • contribs) 17:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode list (Test/practice section before transfer)

message: Some books list episodes 3-1 to 3-10 as part of series 2. 
The airdate again is for ATV Midlands.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by REVUpminster (talk • contribs) 17:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Season three (1965-1966)

message: There is a statement, at two different places, that late in the original UK run of The Prisoner, the two filmed-in-colour episodes of this programme were used as fill-ins when that show was not going to make its scheduled airdates. However, every Prisoner episode guide that I've found with original UK airdates (admittedly, that's not very many) leaves no such gap. I remember getting into an online discussion somewhere (the IMDb maybe) with somebody who indeed asserted that it never happened. How do the January '68 dates given here jibe with that schedule (for instance, is it indeed the same day of the week that Prisoner actually aired on)? It is undoubtedly relevant to point out that on neither instance here ("Later history and transition to The Prisoner" and "Episodes: Season 4") is the fill-in claim sourced. Any ideas on how to handle this? --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  As fill-in for ''Prisoner'' 

message: Maybe we should have a separate article, List of Danger Man episodes, similar to List of The Green Hornet episodes, List of Airwolf episodes, and List of It Takes a Thief (1968 TV series) episodes (to name three I know of off the top of my head). DM 's 86 episodes out-number The Green Hornet 's 26 and It Takes a Thief 's 66, and probably other shows with such List of...episodes articles. Then perhaps we'd have room to add notable guest stars, such as Ronald Howard, son of Leslie Howard, who appeared in an episode of the first, NATO-oriented season, and again in "Koroshi", the first of the only two colour segments, which are more often seen recut into a movie of that title. Burt Kwouk, best known as Inspector Clouseau's valet/practice assailant Cato in The Pink Panther film series, appeared several times as well. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode list—separate article? 

message: I deleted a factual error in the Early History section. The first season of Danger Man aired on CBS in 1961. I've added a source for verification. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 18:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First season aired in the US

message: I see that Brian Clemens is listed as the "co-creator" of The Avengers, but that is not the case. He wrote the second episode as a jobbing writer and later became the co-producer. I'm going to change that line about him here unless someone has an objection. Justinkrivers (talk) 14:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brian Clemens