Talk:Romantic friendship

message: I'd take issue with the last, at least - I would say that romantic friendship is by its very nature a very close friendship that is not sexual. Loganberry (Talk) 20:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now been bold and rewritten the article to something closer to Wiki standards. More input would be welcome! (As would a more appropriate stub notice, if such exists.) Loganberry (Talk) 20:32, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not certain a better stub category really does exist, but I'm gonna call it a Culture stub for lack of anything better and to get it out of the main stub area.  Bold!  =P --Jemiller226 06:05, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Acjelen has done a much better job of saying what I would have said with much less tact. I'm far from an expert in this so feel ill-equipped to make changes. The current examples do seem to be entirely pop-culture based - surely real people have had more notable and well documented romantic friendships than Turk and JD! The point about sex is equally true - these either are or aren't sexual relationships. Tompagenet 15:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: General comments

message: The addition of this tag (by another editor) rather reinforces the last section of the discussion above. We can't simply have a heap of sections dealing with various "couples" who might or might not be examples of romantic friendship: we must have verifiable sources specifically mentioning that term. Without those, the example sections are in danger of deletion, possibly even by me! Loganberry (Talk) 23:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, I just added it again before coming here! --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 10:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research tag 

message: The full phrase was, "Their continued inclusion in the Biblical canon also implies that more recent and typically anti-homosexual Christian leaders did not consider the verses offensive." The statement was not cited and betrays such a complete lack of understanding of the Biblical Canon that it can hardly be credible.LCP 21:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's clear POV and you were right to remove it, especially with no citations to back it up. Loganberry (Talk) 00:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed "inclusion in the Biblical canon..." from "Biblical and religious evidence"

message: I re-wrote a small section of this page because it was poorly phrased.  These are the adjustments I made:
Original: 
Re-Written: 
Grammatically, I feel that it now makes more sense. I am not so confident in the content.  I did not adjust any of the actual content, but I am not sure that it makes sense and frankly am not sure that it is accurate. There should be clarity on the "physical intimacy" discussed.  Did romantic friendships really become taboo because they were "regarded with anxiety"?  If so, why did this anxiety suddenly occur in the second half of the 19th century?  It is all very sketchy to me.  If anyone can provide evidence to back this up, and fix this page, it would be much appreciated.  I would like to add once more that the adjustments I made were merely grammatical adjustments.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.202.98 (talk) 05:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical/content errors 

message: These two seem to be tangled up in each other, but I don't really see the connection.  The "Romantic Friendship" is supposed to be discussing non-sexual friendships, which is not the same thing as homosexual relationships.  Does anyone else share this opinion with me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.202.98 (talk) 05:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexuality vs. romantic friendships 

message: Shouldn't this article mention something about the now popular "bromance" (men who are very close to each other in the similar fashion this article describes)? Especially it's been coined to use with celebrities like Lance Armstrong and Matthew McConaughey and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon because they often hang out together. Even Cary Grant's close friendship with actor Randolph Scott drew rumors that they were gay. Crackthewhip775 (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bromance? 

message: And Anne of Green Gables should be mentioned I think. It's a classic example of romantic friendship. Lucy herself had romantic friendships as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.21.58 (talk) 06:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucy Montgomery? 

message: It is not mentioned here at all. Can anyone add an example of it (or replace it with one of the same-sex romantic friendship examples)? I don't know of any.93.172.250.185 (talk) 02:07, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposite-sex romantic friendship 

message: These two should definitely be mentioned, as their relationship is a clear example of romantic friendship.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.136.17.78 (talk) 22:37, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anna Freud and Dorothy T. Burlingham 

message: Any friendship between two sexes (including kinship, sibling) may be very close but non-sexual relationship and include holding hands, hugging, kissing, and sharing a bed, so maybe we need to clarify what is romantic one? Roma.rr (talk) 17:49, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between friendship and this? 

message: The second paragraph of the introduction is comprised of possibly the most poorly written sentence I've ever read on Wikipedia. I am not sure where to start wi this abomination, so I am pasting it here in the hope that someone can fix it. (Feel free to delete this note once it is fixed.)
"The term was coined in the later 20th century in order to retrospectively describe a type of relationship which until the mid 19th century had been considered unremarkable but since the second half of the 19th century had become more rare as physical intimacy between non-sexual partners came to be regarded with anxiety."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.246.1.91 (talk) 03:55, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction needs serious work

message: Hi there, new guy here, just curious - exactly whom are "Janeth and Selma?" I can't seem to find any reference to them in the article, what do they have to do with any of this?  AnyyVen (talk) 03:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot seem to find any justification for why it's there, and furthermore, the uploader, Selmpadi, appears to be an SPA. Previous updates by this editor were corrected by ClueBotNG, and include numerous spurious additions (like sharing a bed "only with pijamas [sic]") that were since removed by other editors. AnyyVen (talk) 16:19, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Janeth and Selma

message: :Though I have not yet located the source, I once read that "intimacy" is spread over three variables, the sensual, the sexual, and the erotic. 
:It becomes quickly apparent that WP articles on various forms of "buddy love" — e.g. Romantic friendship, Chivalric love, Bromance, Boston marriage, Platonic love — are very common in that they whitewash the fact that sexual arousal is allowed, even encouraged… so long as touching of Naughty Bits is avoided and there is no overt orgasm (and any erection that is unseen, or at least unacknowledged, never happened). That is to say, clearly it's implicit in "buddy love" to exchange and enjoy sensual and even erotic cues, and build them up synergically by touch and proximity and all sorts of intimacy… short of outright sex. Researchers on homosociality (such as Lionel Tiger) have considered the underlying eroticism of one-gender social interactions such as team sports.
:(Some sort of unifying page should be created for Buddy love, with a better title, in order to establish a common point rather than trying to keep up with the redundant See also links.)
:It is dishonest that this covert sexual content is not explicitly addressed, instead merely pushed aside as irrelevant "because this is about love and camaraderie, not icky stuff!" As WP is not a manual for "correct" social behavior, this oversight needs general improvement. Fixing Romantic friendship would be a pleasant beginning.Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia may not be a manual for correct social behaviour, its limited by what is documented in published academic sources. There are a great many things that exist in reality that wikipedia has concept of. There are more things in heaven and earth that are dreamt of in its philosophy XD
Firejuggler86 (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The fact that these terms are somehow, sometimes indirectly related, does not mean that they are one and the same. I mean, they all have their own meaning. Romantic friendship is an old-fashioned, more passionate and emotional form of friendship, bromance is a male friendship with romantic aesthetics and emotionality, courtly love is platonic love-dedication to a sacred partner, platonic love is generally all love without a sexual and romantic beginning, all these are different things. With the same emphasis, you could demand that the articles on sexual attraction and romance be combined, because these things are (mostly) interconnected. Solaire the knight (talk) 21:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: sex but not sex

message: I was looking for some small help. I created an article Valentine's Day in Pakistan. While article subject orientation is related to Romance relationships and festival, but in some parts of the world it touches serious issues like violations of women's rights & Human rights 
At this stage looking for help in better chronological order within article, and continued copy edit help in times to come.
Thanks in advance. 
Bookku (talk) 05:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request of Help 

message: Am I the only one confused by this moment? This is added as the opinion of an authoritative source and has a link, but to be honest, this is the first time I hear ideas that jealousy or longing cannot be platonic. Moreover, even in our time, the media, from Western to Asian, openly show the experience of jealousy and longing in an asexual-platonic friendship as something normal. Of course, not so ardently given the 21st century in the yard, but still. For example, the Japanese concept of romantic friendship explicitly includes the so-called "passionate friendship" attraction, and anime inspired by it like Maria-sama is watching us or in the male version, Tsurune, explicitly discusses romantic allusions in friendship between people of the same sex. So, does anyone know of a more varied study of jealousy and longing in academic sources? Solaire the knight (talk) 21:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longing and jealousy as strictly sexual experiences 

message: literally all of the examples on the page are about white men when these are arguably the most well-known example of romantic friendships. 110.174.42.222 (talk) 05:43, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ladies of Llangollen House in Wales