Talk:Yan Liang

message: After reading over the fall of Yan Liang
at Guan Du, Guan Yu caught Yan Liang off
guard. Although Guan Yu receives some credit
for killing one of Yuan Shao's strongest
generals, Yan Liang did not even have time
to defend himself from the assault of Guan Yu.
Both Yan Liang and Wen Chou would have made
a great team if they both would have fought
against Guan Yu together. I wonder how it would
turn out?
--Zhang Liao 18:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ferocity of Yan Liang 

message: At the start of the battle of Guandu, general
Yan Liang was to be the advance gaurd for the
assault of Baima; however, Ju Shou (As you guessed
it) protested saying, "His mind is too narrow for
such a post. He is brave but unequal to such a trust."
Yuan Shao, on the other hand, replied in a manner only
fitting to the trust he has for his generals. "You are not 
the sort of man to measure my best generals," replied Yuan Shao. 
Although Yan Liang was brave and good, he manages prove 
his worth by slaying Wei Xu and Song Xian before he met 
his end at the hands of Guan Yu. It is rather funny that
Ju Shou saw the deaths of Wen Chou and Yan Liang as he
spoke about them.
--Zhang Liao 19:05, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Mind Too Narrow 

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message: https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%85%B3%E7%BE%BD/17338 - 关羽
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_Yu - Guan Yu
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%85%B3%E5%A7%93/3248025- 关姓
源于董姓。出自远古帝舜时期养龙高手董父，属于以先祖名号为氏。据史籍《姓源》、《通志·姓氏略》记载，颛顼有个后代叫飂叔安，擅长养龙，古代称马为“龙”。飂叔安的儿子叫董父，在帝舜执政时期负责养龙，被封为豢龙氏。在古代，“豢”、“关”二字同音通用，所以后来又写作关龙氏。在董父的后裔子孙中，多有以先祖封号为姓氏者，称豢龙氏、关龙氏，后省文简化分衍为单姓关氏、龙氏，世代相传，是非常古老的姓氏之一。在关龙氏族人中，有个著名的人物叫关龙逄，是夏王朝末期夏桀执政时期的一位大夫，曾因功受封于黄河北邑，因此史称其地为“关邑”。一直到了春秋时期的周定王姬瑜二十年(晋景公姬孺十三年，公元前587年)，晋国的中军元帅、正卿栾书被封于关邑，才改置关邑为“栾邑”，就是今河北省的栾城市。Derived from the surname Dong. It comes from Dong Fu, a master of raising dragons during the time of Emperor Shun in ancient times. He is named after his ancestor. According to the historical records "Surname Source" and "Tongzhi: Surname Brief", Zhuanxu had a descendant named Shu'an who was good at raising dragons. In ancient times, horses were called "dragons". Shu'an's son, Dong Fu, was responsible for raising dragons during Emperor Shun's reign and was named the Dragon Clan. In ancient times, the two characters "袢" and "Guan" had the same pronunciation, so it was later written as Guan Longshi. Among the descendants of Dong's father, there are many who take the title of their ancestors as their surnames, and are called Huanlong and Guanlong. Later, they were simplified and divided into the single surnames Guan and Long. They have been passed down from generation to generation and are one of the very ancient surnames. . Among the Guanlong clan, there was a famous figure named Guan Longpang. He was a great official during the reign of Xia Jie at the end of the Xia Dynasty. He was awarded the title of "Guanyi" in the north of the Yellow River for his meritorious service. Therefore, history calls the place "Guanyi". It was not until the 20th year of Ji Yu, King of Zhou Ding during the Spring and Autumn Period (the 13th year of Jin Jinggong Ji Ru's reign, 587 BC), that Luan Shu, the marshal of the Chinese army and Zhengqing of the Jin State, was granted the title of Guanyi. It was called "Luan Yi", which is today's Luan City in Hebei Province.
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%91%A3%E5%A7%93/617280 - 董姓
源于己姓。①出自帝舜赐予颛顼后裔飂之子的姓氏，属于帝王赐姓为氏。相传，颛顼的己姓后裔中有个人叫飂叔安，史书上亦称廖叔安。飂叔安有个儿子叫董父，他对龙（马）的习性很有研究，于是舜帝就任命董父为豢龙氏，让他专门养龙。在董父的精心驯养下，许多龙学会了表演各种舞蹈，帝舜很是喜欢，就封董父为鬷川侯（今山东定陶），还赐他以董为姓氏，他的后代就是董氏，世代相传，是非常古老的姓氏之一，史称董氏正宗。董氏族人大多尊奉董父为得姓始祖。Derived from his surname. ①The surname comes from the surname given by Emperor Shun to the son of Zhuanxu's descendant. It belongs to the surname given by the emperor. According to legend, one of Zhuan Xu’s descendants was named Liao Shu’an, who was also called Liao Shu’an in history books. Shu'an had a son named Dong's father. He was very knowledgeable about the habits of dragons (horses), so Emperor Shun appointed Dong's father as the Dragon Master and asked him to specialize in raising dragons. Under Dong's father's careful taming, many dragons learned to perform various dances. Emperor Shun liked it very much, so he named Dong's father the Marquis of Chuan (now Dingtao, Shandong) and gave him the surname Dong. His descendants are The Dong family has been passed down from generation to generation. It is one of the very ancient surnames and is known as the authentic Dong family in history. Most people of the Dong clan respect Dong's father as the ancestor of their surname.
Learn from the defeat and move on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisoeasy (talk • contribs) 13:02, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Guan Yu?