Talk:Perfidious Albion

message: I thought "Alba" was the Scots Gaelic name for Scotland too.
If it refers to white in that context then
why would Scotland be named after the white cliffs of Dover in England?
I can't think that the two words are completely unrelated, but they may be.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.85.15.76 (talk • contribs) 
:They almost certainly are unrelated. Alba was a generic Latin title used for mountainous areas. Albania is a non-British example of its use. It generally  refers to the white snow-caps on the mountain peaks. That is almost certainly why it was used for Scotland by the Gaels. Albion is generally assumed to be connected to the White Cliffs but this may just be a case of fake etymology. It may well refer to Britain as a whole, which, north of Watford, is fairly mountainous. -- Derek Ross |  Talk 05:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Alba/White

message: "Total annihilation of the aborigines"?  That's a bit harsh.  Also a bit verifiably untrue.
: Moreover, it's hard to see how British support for the 21st-century invasion of Iraq can exactly be seen as a cause for the coinage in Spain of a 19th-century French phrase, which is what I think the article is trying to claim.  Seriously, is this article even salvageable? — Haeleth Talk 11:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Then who's running all these casinos? 

message: It should perhaps be pointed out that, in modern French, the phrase often is used humorously. If an Englishman defeats a Frenchman at chess, for example, the latter might well exclaim "Perfide Albion!" There's an element of self-mockery aimed at French chauvinism.  Rhinoracer 13:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humorous use 

message: Kind think that would be the biggest example haha ;D 2.122.83.65 (talk) 12:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Mention of Palestine? 

message: I wonder whether a "see also" to Night of the Long Knives (Arthurian) can be worked in anywhere. Maybe not. The Wednesday Island (talk) 15:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  see also 

message: For those who believe there are no sources about the use of the term by Mussolini and Fascist propaganda: https://www.google.it/search?q=%22perfida+Albione%22+mussolini&tbm=bks. --Enok (talk) 15:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have trimmed the section for relevance and cleaned up the references. For the Japan section the references simply don;t support the usage of the term. (Hohum @) 18:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fascist Italy 

message: Curious that someone who wrote a discourse on universal history (1681) should be unaware that Roman occupation of England lasted for 400 years, 
slightly longer than French occupation. Pamour (talk) 16:51, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  bossuet 

message: ... may have died by being poisoned, according to the Swedish toxicologist Sten Forshufvud[4]
Shoukd this be deleted? Not only was the Swede NOT a toxicologist, but real toxicologist using modern techniques rather than 20th century Swedish imagination have put paid to this theory. Rustygecko (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, the detailed suggestion being now widely accepted, that as arsenic is a poisonous element which was commonly used in the production of a green dye much favoured at the time, it's use in wallpaper (fact) could have accidentally poisoned the Emperor (conjecture). I would recommend you locate some of those modern toxicologists reports, and post them here, as justification for deleting the phrase, which most certainly does NOT seem to be NPOV.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.70.112.105 (talk) 14:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Napoleon murdered