Talk:Bodhicitta

message: This is quite a distinct variation of the earlier article, which however was based solely within the context of the Lam Rim tradition.
I wanted to comment on the suggestion that this article be merged with the one entitled 'Heartmind' - I have been a student of Tibetan Buddhism for about 17 years, and have never heard of Bodhichitta being translated as 'heartmind'. I don't consider it to be a good translation - it simply does not seem to mean anything. What would it mean to have a 'heart mind'? A far better translation is 'mind of enlightment' - because (in particular) the Sanskrit word 'bodhichitta' is a conjunction of the words 'bodhi' (meaning enlightement) and chitta (meaning mind). Much of what is in that 'heart mind' article also appears dubious. My feeling is that the article 'heart mind' should simply be deleted. Personally, I don't feel that the term 'heart mind' should even be mentioned as a translation of bodhichitta - I simply don't believe it is correct. --Darkstar9999 16:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Heartmind

message: *Drikung Kagyu Ngöndro Teaching By Lama Sonam Jorphel Rinpoche
Quote: "Basically there are two levels of bodhicitta. They are the absolute bodhicitta and the relative bodhicitta. The relative bodhicitta is the wish or vow that all mother sentient beings attain Buddhahood. After making the vow or aspiration, one should engage in the actual activity of bodhicitta to actualize the vow or aspiration. Merely by making the vow is not enough."
As far as relative bodhicitta is concerned: how does this quotation go together with the text on the mainpage?
:Austerlitz -- 88.75.92.10 (talk) 05:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  absolute and relative (bodhicitta) 

message: This is a rather excellent article. It's not only mostly scripturally accurate, but captures much of the experiential reality of this process. It seems some of the authors must be actual practitioners.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenji (talk • contribs) 00:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: well done

message: In Pali Canon and its commentaries there is no mention about bodhicitta. Luminous mind is the mind of the 4th jhana.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.249.15.132 (talk) 19:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bodhicitta - luminous mind 

message: A Khenpo, who teaches at the Kagyu College in India, when asked, told me that bodhicitta means both compassion, or the wish to bring people out of suffering, and loving-kindness, or the wish to bring others to a state of happiness. Essentially, bodhicitta is a wish to bring all sentient beings to Enlightenment.
This page inaccurately states that bodhicitta is the wish to bring oneself to Enlightenment in order to then benefit all sentient beings. I believe that in the Theravada tradition this is the ideal, but it is the case in the Indo-Tibetan tradition that the ideal of the bodhisattva is to bring ALL sentient beings to enlightenment. There have been many bodhisattvas who have vowed to stay in Samsara until ALL beings are brought to enlightenment, for instance His Holiness The Dalai Lama.
I think that this page should be corrected to reflect the Tibetan ideal of staying in samsara in order to continue to benefit all sentient beings, and to withhold oneself from entering enlightenment. makeswell (talk) 18:31, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  reaching enlightenment to benefit or benefiting to reach enlightenment 

message: The entire luminous mind section appears to be based on one text which is hardly an RS. I pulled it altogether.
My understanding of Bodhicitta is at complete variance with this. 
I agree with the authors makeswell and ChengduTeacher here.  (20040302 (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  lots wrong here. 

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