Talk:MacOS version history

message: The material here is better covered elsewhere, and there is a bunch of misleading stuff, so massive editing is called for. "humble approach" to open source? Puh-leez - that's the part of Apple I work in, and I ain't seen no humility yet. :-) Unfortunately, as an employee I'm not in a good position to write neutrally, so others will have to fix. Stan 04:29, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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message: I used to have a mailing list post from 1999 or so where someone suggested "Mac OS X" as a name for what was then unofficially being called 'Millennium' and also suggested Apple open source the non-graphical parts of the OS.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 16:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: Article Eric Gould Bear has been redirected here because his company has patents that, they claimed, would cover several summarizing features of OS X (see article history and last version). I'm adding this note per WP:PRESERVE AND WP:BLAR. Diego (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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message: For reasons that I cannot understand, User:Smuckola keeps undoing my updates to this article. In the versions he favors, the "Releases" section lists all of the "big cat" code names, then stops when it gets to the "California" names.  I've tried adding these, which he reverts, disparaging it as "recentism" (which I think misses the point of that issue... just because something is recent doesn't make it bad to document). One might reasonably argue instead that the list is redundant and unnecessary, but if the list exists it should be complete rather than petering out as if only the older releases really matter. If "Puma" and "Tiger" and "Snow Leopard" and the rest of the cats are worth mentioning, so are "Yosemite" and "El Capitan". -01:47, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted Smuckola's latest deletion of information about a recent release, because his justification for it was nonsensical. We're supposed to be balanced, and that means treating all OS X upgrades more or less equally, not giving extra attention to some just because they're older, and short shrift to newer ones. So I've also trimmed down the three subsections under "Releases" that actually did have excessive details (better left to the main articles about them). Now each point-release has one short paragraph describing its most noteworthy changes: no more, no less. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 17:02, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of updates 

message: The text of the article as it is now is really the prehistory of OS X, talking about the development of the OS up to the point where it was released to the public, then lapsing into a series of release notes for the point-releases. Shouldn't the material from OS_X#History be incorporated here instead, talking about how it developed in Apple's software strategy, first as the software of the revitalized Mac, then as a companion to iOS... the influence of Forstall, then of Ive (neither of whom are even mentioned)...?  -Jason A. Quest (talk) 17:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  History doesn't end with 10.0 

message: This article is basically a version history and just because it doesn't use the version history template from other articles doesn't make it less so, as both Windows 10 and O.S. X are desktop operating systems they are related.
Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "See also" to Microsoft's [[Windows 10]] 

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message: It would be handy to know when TLS support was added and removed in various releases. The version history pages for things like iOS/Firefox/Chrome/Android/etc have this and it's nice. 2602:61:715D:4000:0:0:0:4 (talk) 18:21, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't a mention be made of the demo Jobs showed at Macworld 2000? It was (I believe) an internal demo predecessor to 10.0. E.g. the dock was different.
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thread_title: Internal demo of OSX 10.0 by Jobs at Macworld 2000

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replies: text: Not any more, there isn't - "The result of the move request was: pages not moved." Guy Harris (talk) 23:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: I believe the development section should be split, and expanded based on :
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That material was posted on the author's site for free, as a supplemental chapter to a Pearson-published book he wrote ("Mac OS X Internals: A Systems Approach"). Given his expertise, I believe it's perfectly usable as a source. It goes deep in the history of Apple's operating systems, and efforts to create Mac OS X. And I am sure other sources can be found too.
It would be nice to have an article tying that all together: it could include WP:SUMMARY sections of the main articles on these efforts (Taligent, Copland, etc, which can be expanded based on the supplemental above), and have more comprehensive detail for parts that don't have a main articles.
The split article could be linked at MacOS#Development as  (and summarized), and Mac_(computer)#1997–2011:_Steve_Jobs_era as . DFlhb (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try to expand the "Development" section here first; and then we'll see. DFlhb (talk) 17:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Development section and expand