Talk:Roy DeMeo

message: This article needs some serious editing - it is much longer than articles on much more important mob luminaries such as Vito Genovese, John Gotti, Lucky Luchiano, or even Al Capone.  Who wants to read a major opus on a minor criminal? Rogermx 21:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree 100%. While Roy DeMeo may not be in the "household recognition" category like other "pop culture" New York Mobsters, he was an unquestionably key figure that played a central role in some of the mobs most infamous killings. Eventually, there will be a movie about him and when there is, people will know him just as they know names like Genovese or Gotti. --LoverOfArt (talk) 20:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This Article is Way Too Long

message: On Demeo selling his Dad's old stuff: Back in September he was selling this 1970s brown leather jacket and it was f**kin' dope! I wanted it. I think it ended up selling for like $700. And you know what, I would've worn it. Imagine that? Hell, I live in New York City, so it would've been too far from home. Woulda Shoulda Coulda
::Rawoyster (talk) 06:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I almost bought a Roy DeMeo tie clip from the son on eBay. It was going for $140. I backed off because I was in a financial crunch at the time. If I had bought it I definitely would have worn it too. Kenmore (talk) 03:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I must admit, I am starting to get a bit cynical about the endless stream of stuff he seems to have. A lot of it coincides with precisely the same sort of stuff you can find in a goodwill in the "post ebay" era. Neckties, old articles of clothing, cheezy nick-nacks, odd stemware, ashtrays... Of course, things like DeMeo associated pistol grips and what not bring hefty prices, but given that one can buy a huge lot of old junk pistol grips on ebay for $20 or $30 but all of a sudden they're bringing $100 PER PAIR when associated with DeMeo, well, methinks the old man would probably be having a good laugh over this scam if he were here today. I dunno. If it was one burst of items- just "cleaning out the attic", I might have bought it... When it's a constant stream of "Original Roy DeMeo" kitch that never seems to end, methinks there might be a bit of dishonesty going on. Kinda ironic, huh? --LoverOfArt (talk) 02:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Is Albert in need of money? I thought he was well-off. Roy gave him everything. Why not keep all these items for himself?? Also when is the movie Fountain Ave coming out??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.19.147 (talk) 20:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, the basic gist would be; why bother keeping insane amounts of clutter that's irrelevant to the memories of your father, when those same things could be sold on ebay, with 'notarized certificate', and sold for a good bit of money? I mean, cups, ties, nick nacks, etc, it's all just junk. The catch is, if anyone was paying attention to the insane volumes of stuff that was being sold at that time (going on 3-4 years ago now), it was quite clear that the whole thing was likely a scam- associating fraudulent "Roy DeMeo Provenance" to run of the mill thrift store junk (cheap glassware, ties, cufflinks, etc). The sellers got clever and realized that salacious things like knives, grips from handguns, etc tended to bring *a lot* more money so sure enough, before you knew it, an endless supply of those started to hit the market, complete with 'notarized certificate' saying that they once belonged to Roy. Whoever was doing the selling is laying low for now, but I'm virtually certain that it was a scam. If not, then Roy wouldn't have had any time to kill anyone, as he was apparently too busy hording as many tie clips, keychains and nick nacks as he could get his hands on. My hunch? Some of the early stuff was probably really Roy's, cleaning out the attic, sell it on ebay and see what kind of interest it brings. After the first batch of auctions closed for big prices, the seller suddenly realized that people were willing to pay $900 for a crappy old Blazer jacket that he could buy for $5 from a thrift shop, if he was willing to affirm it had once belonged to dear old dad. Any doubt what happened next? From there forward, associating garage sale junk to Roy DeMeo became a VERY lucrative one man ebay business.  LoverOfArt (talk) 05:25, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: DeMeo Artifacts on eBay

message: As far as I can remember, in the book The Ice Man: Confessions of a Mafia Hit Man by Philip Carlo, Rothenberg was killed by Richard Kuklinski and also, as Kuklinski tells it, DeMeo had been killing for a long time before that.
I'll double-check this fact, but I'm %99 sure about it. AC (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Murder 

message: Removed material added 10 May 2008. It was POV, laudatory, unsourced.
The tone indicated the possibility it was added by someone close to DeMeo in his lifetime. For all these reasons it was deleted. Tapered (talk) 02:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Deletion 

message: I changed the opening from 'was an associate of' to 'was a soldier in' the Gambino Family, on account of the fact that Roy WAS made and formally inducted into the organization, and therefore elevated to the rank of made man, or soldier, and was not just an unmade associate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.53.125 (talk) 23:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank 

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message: User:Avaya1, What evidence do you have that suggests that Carlo's book is not reliable? I would be more sympathetic with the edits if you can explain.
:Adding so much from WP:Fringe theory to the article is undue, especially as the source itself retracted the claims in the ensuing controversy. Avaya1 (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here are the policies on fringe theories as propagated in this article: "The notability of a fringe theory must be judged by statements from verifiable and reliable sources, not the proclamations of its adherents. Additionally, the topic must satisfy general notability guidelines: the topic must receive significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Avaya1 (talk) 23:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: In 2006, The New Jersey Record ran an article quoting law enforcement figures disputing the accuracy of Carlo's Book on Kuklinski. I would consider Carlo not a reliable source. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carlo's book 

message: A "soldier" doesn't run his own crew. Roy DeMeo was a Gambino Family capo. Geoffroi 00:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a "soldier" 

message: Why is Kuklinski mentioned in this article? There is zero evidence other than his own bragging that he was involved in any mafia related business. Other well known Gambino soldiers don’t even mention him. I don’t understand why he’s included in this article at all?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1002:B12A:2F9F:5CD4:A350:234D:B0E7 (talk) 15:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree fully. The evidence is shoddy at best and relies on self-serving stories Kuklinski told years after being incarcerated. Kuklinski tells a lot of tall tales that are WP:FRINGE, including his claim that he killed DeMeo. I remember hearing that surveillance of DeMeo only saw Kuklinski once going into the Gemini lounge briefly. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Kuklinski

message: The template claims that additional citations are needed and that the article lacks inline citations; if this was an issue in the past, it seems to have been corrected. There's a citation for nearly every sentence in the article. I think it's time to remove the template. Global Cerebral Ischemia (talk) 13:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove multiple issues template?