Talk:Nikola IV Zrinski

message: The Zrinski family was indeed of Croatian origin. However, quoting from the 1911 Britannica (article here:
"The Emperor Ferdinand also gave him large possessions in Hungary, and henceforth the Zrinyis became as much Magyar as Croatian magnates.... In 1563, on the coronation of the Emperor Maximilian as king of Hungary, Zrinyi attended the ceremony at the head of 3000 Croatian and Magyar mounted noblemen..." (emphasis mine).
It would be inaccurate to call Zrinyi simply "a Hungarian soldier", but equally unfair to leave it at simply "a Croatian soldier." For further discussion, take a look at his great grandson, also Nikola Zrinski, who was both a Croat and Hungarian patriot, and who definitely ascribed both these qualities to his great-grandfather in his Hungarian-language epic, the Szigeti Veszedelem. I can't think of a better source.
Korossyl 08:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the old books, Croatia was a part of Hungary, under the Hungarian (Magyar) crown.  Technically, everyone under the Magyar crown were Magyars from a citizenship perspective.  By birth/ethnicity, he was a Croat. NikolaZrinski (talk) 01:22, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zrinyi - Hungarian 

message: Aparently s historian from Croatia has traced the ancestry of Queen Elizabeth when the baby was born and found out that she a far descendant of Nikola Šubić Zrinski. Should it be put in the article? Here is the source: http://www.vecernji.hr/ljetna-panorama/kraljica-elizabeta-potomak-je-nikole-subica-zrinskog-588701  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsfanatic10 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestor of Queen Elizabeth 

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message: stop adding information about genealogy or "ancestry" when it is out of scope for this article. For the genealogy exists Zrinski family tree. Genealogy information found at Geni.com is not reliable for citation. Not to mention that the genealogy you cite is wrong as "genealogy.euweb.cz" does not have a correct family tree and has doubtful reliability (including for Croatian Kurjaković and Újlaki family) nor the personal names and surnames are correctly written.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genealogy, Geni etc. as sources 

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* Support, per nominators argument.(KIENGIR (talk) 11:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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