Talk:Pint glass

message: Pint glasses should be 568ml. That is the conversion from imperial fluid ounces to millilitres and therefore is what a PINT is. Yes, you may find some glasses are actually 570ml, but how does this affect the consumer? You are not short changing them in any way, shape or form.
All pint glasses that my employer buys are 568ml - and indeed, all the branded promo glasses from the individual lager/cider brewers are 568ml (and marked accordingly). Half pint glasses are marked 284ml. Unless you can find a reference to a reliable source on the use of 570ml glasses then I doubt your information.
How do you know they are 568 mL and not 570 mL? If they hold 570 mL that is what they are.  Some manufacturers will label them as 568 mL if that is what the purchasers wants them to say, but they don't make a special glass that is 2 mL shy just to please Luddites.  Also, you can not divide 568 into thirds and get a round number.  When you divide 570 mL into thirds, you get 190 mL.  
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Please sign each submission, at least with "205.177.176.242 (talk) 13:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The real reason for the replacement of the crown by a CE(?) symbol was the privatization of the industry that verifies the size of the glass.  Just as MoTs are carried out by private garages, verifying measuring devices such as petrol pumps, beer mugs etc is carried out by private firms. Firms are licenced to do the checks by national governments, but follow international standards. The upshot is that pint glasses made in the UK can be sold in Ireland without having a harp etched onto them and vice-versa.  The crown was removed because government-appointed trading standards officers no longer do the job.
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You make a genuinely interesting point, however I wonder why there should be a CE (non-privatized) symbol and not a UK style 'permitted' stamp.  The irony is that although it's possible to get a real pint in Europe the normal practice is to serve a 'pint' that could be anything from 450ml to 600ml.  In Paris you can ask for a pint and get 500ml in certain places. The irony is that the very place that does not regulate a pint internally is clarifying a 'proper pint' as used in the UK and Ireland.  Furthermore - if the CE accreditation is to qualify that a glass holds a real pint (ie that of 20 oz, not one that is a translation of 568ml despite it being exactly the same) then continental countries are - technically - only allowed to serve pints based on the UK type.  In this case the pint has grown from being a 'UK / IRL only' specification to being a real measure across the whole of Europe.  Wacky. 78.147.224.171 (talk) 21:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 568ml vs 570ml

message: The article needs to be updated to show that UK pint glasses are not 568 mL but instead made to a rounded 570 mL.  You can google the internet and find countless examples of 570 mL pint glasses being advertized.
This may have something to do with pint glasses now being made in metric countries.  Just like the Chinese producing wood products in 1220 mm x 2440 mm instead of 1219.2 x 2438.4, glass makers in metric countries will produce to a rounded metric value, usually to the nearest 5 or 10 mm or mL.  Whereas anti-metric types harp on precise non-rounded metric equivalents, the people in metric countries have no problem producing the product to a rounded metric amount.  
http://www.polysafe.com.au/570mL%20Pint%20Glass.html
http://beerpintglass.com/1-x-570ml-1-pint-tooheys-new-etched-glass-beer-stein/   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.146.105 (talk) 13:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me, better than the previous photo. Edward 11:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Like the photo! Was looking up Martini (the cocktail) and came across this, which is funny considering I got the biggest head I'd ever seen on a pint of Guinness earlier! I've got a few images on my phone I could upload if needed, but the resolution is really poor. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 23:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Whether or not curved glasses are properly "tulip" glasses, in my experience they are almost universally known as that (, , for example) so it is rather daft to argue over it, IMO. DWaterson 18:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Good point. What would the US English be? SimonTrew (talk) 09:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: They are going to remove the crown from the glass and change the measurements to metric.
Buc 07:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New EU law 

message: My understanding about the bulge in a Nonic glass was that it is for strength when treated roughly - if you knock two pint glasses together, or knock one over then a conical glass will take the impact at the edge where it is already weak due to being an edge, yet a Nonic glass takes the impact on a curved section which is the strongest shape. Matt Beard (talk) 08:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for Shape 

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message: Why is there an EU directive pertaining to certification of an imperial measurement? --Random832 (contribs) 03:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the UK (and I think Eire) has an exemption whereby draught beer can (indeed must) be sold as a pint. It still comes under the general metrication rules-- the measure and its metrication are two separate things. SimonTrew (talk) 16:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Do you have a citation for this? Page 11 of this EU document states that the pint is 0.5683 litres. Martinvl (talk) 19:51, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  CE 

message: Does anyone know what these numbers are? They seem pretty random. I would at one time have guessed they were the inspection ofice stamp or something but in the same pub you can find lots of different numbers. SimonTrew (talk) 16:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers on crown-stamped glasses (UK) 

message: Mention of badged/branded glasses is is now split across three sections:
*In the UK section, to mention passing off.
*In the nucleated glass section.
*In the collector's section.
In none of them is it excessively wordy, nor contradictory. I wonder however if we should gather them up into a little individual section and then just call them "branded" from then on?
Also some glasses are especially moulded/cast with the brand logo prominent (or recessed). I have a few Stella glasses like this. I am not sure how well this would come out in a photo, without careful lighting. SimonTrew (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Badged/branded etc 

message: I would like to see a single section documenting possible measurement marks seen on beer glasses. Older UK is pretty easy with the Crown mark on Pints and halfs, explaining the numbers could be done. I think the EU currently does all the glasses with a CE mark, but I am not sure. I think German glasses of the past had a mark from the glass manufacturer. I have them with VEBA, SAHM, RASTAL. Irish have the NSAI marks. Polish beer Zywiec glasses have a mark that states "Zywiec" next to it so the beer maker is certifying? I suppose this doesn't belong under Pint as many are parts of liter measure.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.245.225.131 (talk) 14:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is called "Pint glass" not "Beer glass" so any such section would be inappropriate here . You could include such a section on the Beer glassware page though, if you were prepared to do the necessary research.   ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 16:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Measure Marks - Single Section or Topic 

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message: How will the markings be done post-Brexit?  Obviously not CE, will we see a return to the crown? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Broadly speaking, the CE mark is to be replaced by UKCA marking (but see UKCA marking#Northern Ireland). The latest deadline is 1 January 2023. NebY (talk) 22:44, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  Pity the crown isn't returning, but that would require bureaucratic common sense, an oxymoron if ever there was!  Will you be updating the article? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:08, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't planning to. All I know is that the overall deadline for replacing CE has been put back, not how any of it applies to pint glasses. You can have this one. :) NebY (talk) 10:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added a minimal sentence since we are still in a transition phase. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:44, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brexit 

message: It seems that this part should be updated ? 2A01:CB00:840E:2D00:E8C8:A482:9F82:90E6 (talk) 12:45, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "within the EU"