Talk:Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog)

message: The current article mentions him getting a spinoff as "Fox gets the Boot" and I have never heard of this and can find no reference to it.
2620:22:4000:1204:1FC9:F79E:6D5D:70FE (talk) 21:05, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Fox gets the Boot?

message: In his Debut in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 his name was Miles "powers" Tails. In Sonic Riders His name was changed to Miles "Tails" Prower. In Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) His name change ... again to Miles "Tails" Prowler. Come on SEGA, make up your mind. Saprissy (talk) 13:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, those are probably spelling errors. His name is Miles Prower, best known as Tails. Mokoniki | talk 14:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's his name 

message: Should I add a mention that he seems to be based on a kitsune, due to being a fox with multiple tails?
Zyborg  —Preceding undated comment added 01:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kitsune? 

message: The article's main section mentions the popularity of the character Tails, placing 3rd to Sonic (1st) and Shadow (2nd).  However, it does not mention that this popularity contest is something much more recent and arbitrary in history.  Previous contests would have ranked the characters in popularity as Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles... or perhaps Sonic,tails, and knuckles .
To be more honest with the character's actual popularity in the series, I believe this sentence should be changed to something neutral, like: "Tails is the second most recurring character in the Sonic Series, followed by Dr. Robotnic aka Eggman." (no source handy)  ~ Agvulpine (talk) 07:15, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity of character. 

message: The lead of the article says that it's more popularly known as Tails, so the page should be moved to Tails. 79.2.52.49 (talk) 13:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of page

message: Since Sonic is a Japanese game I was informed on the Sonic Colors page that who ever started the page gets to choose the language.
since I was the one who originally wrote the part about tails being in it I get to choose the language. so I chose Sonic Colours please stop changing it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamsDreams (talk • contribs) 19:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a good place to start reading.  For instance "Each article should consistently use the same conventions of spelling, grammar, and punctuation. For example, these should not be used in the same article: center and centre; color and colour;".  That plus "the variety chosen by the first major contributor should be adopted" means "color" is the preferred spelling. It doesn't go line by line or section by section, it's for the entire article.  SQGibbon (talk) 19:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tails in Sonic Colors 

message: Can someone get the picture of Modern Tails and Classic Tails from Sonic Generations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.51.195 (talk) 18:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New pic 

message: The fact that he flies a plane probably ought to be mentioned a little more in here, shouldn't it? Seems like that's a reoccuring theme amongst the various games and other media. FYI, I'll probably work on adding that somewhere, whether it be it's own section, or just adding it more to where it's minimally mentioned already... Sergecross73 msg me  13:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on, you don't need to remind experienced editors to provide sources. Sergecross73 msg me  14:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends...some subjectivity still lingers around.Lucia Black (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  His plane 

message: Continuing from previous Move attempt. So clearly some editors cannot be convinced that sheer numerical number of a shortened name does not make a common name despite its use in the 3rd party reliable sources - we'll agree to disagree for now. However, the title "Tails (character)" still does not conform to Wikipedia's Article Title guidelines, specifically WP:PRECISION which (like I quoted before) states,
::"However, when a topic's most commonly used name, as reflected in reliable sources, is ambiguous (can refer to more than one topic covered in Wikipedia), and the topic is not primary, that name cannot be used and so must be disambiguated. There are generally two methods employed to avoid using an ambiguous title:
::1. Natural disambiguation: If it exists, choose a different, alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English, albeit, not as commonly as the preferred but ambiguous title (do not, however, use obscure or made up names).
::2. Parenthetical disambiguation: If natural disambiguation is not possible, add a disambiguating term in parentheses (or sometimes after a comma), directly after the ambiguous  name."
The current title "Tails" requires Parenthetical disambiguation, however Wikipedia EXPLICITLY PREFERS NATURAL DISAMBIGUATION (as per the bolded quote: "If natural disambiguation is not possible..."). Clearly, by the 3rd party reliable sources listed in the last move attempt, "Miles 'Tails' Prower" is at the very least an "alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English, albeit, not as commonly as the preferred but ambiguous title." Therefore, to put this article back in line with WP:PRECISION, it is a perfect compromise to move the page back to its original title of Miles "Tails" Prower and keep "Tails (character)" as a redirect. CIGraphix (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Point being "Tails" alone is the most recognizable to readers to find. WP:PRECISION as it is now "SUBJECTIVE" between user to user. So while you think it helps your point, it may also hurt you without even realizing. The point is it's "precise" enough and not "too precise". There is also the issue of what wikipedia "prefers" and what wikipedia "mandates". Compared to other media aswell, he is referred to as just "Tails". The discussion ended.....this wont pick up again anytime soonLucia Black (talk) 22:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing subjective about the disambiguation part - there is no mandate that works against "Miles 'Tails' Prower". The weight of both the character not being a primary topic for "Tails" and WP's preference for natural disambiguation overcomes any subjectivity & original research. And your point on the other media does not hold water, and not just because Wikipedia prefers 3rd party sources, but also because nearly all other 1st party media  canonized "MTP" - from games to Sonic X to the DiC cartoons. CIGraphix (talk) 23:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue isn't whether it's mandated. Its whtherw e should enforce a preference. This isn't a policy-based issue. it's subjective.Lucia Black (talk) 23:14, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Where in "If natural disambiguation is not possible..." and accompanying text does it say something like "should" - it only makes exceptions for "obscure" and "made up names" (of which "MTP" is neither); there is no subjectivity there. I characterized it as a preference, perhaps wrongly as it actually does seem more mandate-ish. CIGraphix (talk) 01:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a guideline, not a policy. The issue is based on preference. Wikipedia allows exceptions to the guidelines. Tails (character) is a much easier for readers to find rather than Miles "Tails" Characters.Lucia Black (talk) 01:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Read WP:PRECISION again, not only is it on a policy page (WP:ARTICLETITLE), it says at the top of its section "This policy section should be read in conjunction with the disambiguation guideline" - it is a policy section which has a guideline on another page to expand on it, its exceptions are specifically "obscure" and "made up names" of which MTP is neither. Why do you have such a problem with a compromise you agreed to earlier? CIGraphix (talk) 03:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

text: The previous discussion was cut short by my leaving for a vacation and did not even consider the argument about how the new name does not conform to WP:PRECISION that was made during that discussion nor how there was a possible compromise on the table when closing it (which is more the reason why I've continued it than just because it was closed with a result that I did not prefer) - also the closing seemed to put too much weight on democracy which Wikipedia is not. I looked for a policy about reopening move discussions after closure and couldn't find one (I've never really bothered with moves and such so my familiarity with their rules isn't that extensive), is there a policy about closed move discussions being reopened? CIGraphix (talk) 20:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't a policy in the sense that its not a policy (that if broken) will cause damage. Its more closer to a guideline. Regardless, even policy's are bendable look up WP:COMMONSENSE. The policy is based more on Wikipedia's "preference" but doesn't fully enforce it as something that must absolutely be mandated. For example, WP:NPOV is mandated no matter what, because thats the goal of Wikipedia, its a lot more than a preference. We can't use "common sense" in that regard. There have been several exceptions that i myself do not agree with, but in the end it relies on preference. The issue is, whether you'll let it go. This isn't a democracy, i agree, but it really isn't based on vote-count.Lucia Black (talk) 21:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Difference is they dont have altered common names interferring.  The highlight of the name is tails. For easy navigation for readers its easier to search for tails first.Lucia Black (talk) 00:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

text: That would only be a valid argument if someone was arguing he should be named "Tails the Fox", which no one is. Sergecross73 msg me  20:48, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  But Amy Rose isn't popularly called Amy the Hedgehog --82.139.5.13 (talk) 10:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize that. But unless her article was named something like like Amy "Rosie" Hedgehog or something, it's equally poor of an example. This is a long standing stale-mate or an argument, and even though you're arguing on my side of it, your arguments are very lacking. I'd suggest we let this 6 month argument die... Sergecross73 msg me  12:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Title Compromise

message: I'm thinking of replacing the image of Sonic 2s title screen with this (src: ), to better illustrate the two-player gameplay. Thoughts, anyone? Tezero (talk) 21:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: An IP (97.127.69.217) has been changing his age from 8 to 11, I reverted the IP a couple of times (because his official Sega profile says he's 8) and tried to talk to him/her, to no avail. I don't want to get in an edit war, what should we do? --AmaryllisGardener talk 14:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still there. Sergecross73, Tezero? --AmaryllisGardener talk 18:37, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any reason to think that the IP is making a good-faith mistake? If it just seems like he's being a troublemaker I could protect the page for a bit. Sergecross73 msg me  19:02, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I reverted him, then I messaged him, (See here) then he did it again, I reverted him, (because I thought maybe he didn't have enough time to read my message) then he did it again, then I stopped so I wouldn't get myself involved in an edit war. This happened in early May with a different IP, whose edits were reverted by Tezero. --AmaryllisGardener talk 19:09, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll put a hidden comment there reminding any editors that changes must be cited. Tezero (talk) 19:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good, but don't forget the lead, where we're having the most trouble and where it still says 11. --AmaryllisGardener talk 19:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Tezero (talk) 21:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  A different IP just changed it to 11, protection would be nice. --AmaryllisGardener talk 14:14, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Sergecross73 msg me  17:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Is the in-universe age of the character significant? If not, simply remove it altogether. —Farix (t | c) 15:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I've gone out of my way to enforce not having any ages in the List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters article, I just don't maintain many of the individual articles like this one. Sergecross73 msg me  17:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for protecting it. I don't know that his age should be in the lead section, but I think it would be good to have it in the characteristics section. --AmaryllisGardener talk 17:50, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Agreed. --AmaryllisGardener talk 19:12, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: i watching a content called "In video games", i found a issue in EasyTimeline. This is a error message:
EasyTimeline 1.90
Timeline generation failed: 1 error found
Line 44: at:2015 text:"Sonic runners (android game)
- Plotdata attribute 'at' invalid.
 Date '2015' not within range as specified by command Period.
can you fix this? --Ijoe2003 (talk) 01:20, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  EasyTimeline Issue 

message: Why is there no discussion about how Tails is transgendered? See . 166.171.120.182 (talk) 01:00, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Wikipedia uses strong secondary sources (news, media, etc.) not twitter feeds of random people.  Jcmcc (Talk) 01:05, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: , the day Wikipedia starts using Twitter as an acceptable secondary source, will be the day that Wikipedia dies. --AmaryllisGardener talk 01:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

text: What is this, a joke? --Frogging101 (talk) 19:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transgendered 

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replies: text: It's okay. Interestingly, the retrieved date (2011-12-16) is after the website had closed. Nibiko (talk) 20:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Howcome the voice actors of Tails in these games have been omitted from the infobox? 107.77.228.109 (talk) 18:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Heroes 

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message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tails (fox). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:37, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tails (fox) listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The article says "He is the second character to consistently appear by Sonic's side in the series" - if he is the second, then who is the first? Nzseries1 (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is the second character to consistently appear by Sonic's side in the series 

message: To stay more consistent with the Sonic article, we could have an image of both Classic Tails and Modern Tails from Sonic Generations. I've uploaded it here . Thomasfan1000 (talk) 16:54, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of image 

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message: With this edit, I cleaned up the infobox to comply with MOS:FONTSIZE. I have been reverted multiple times. If any editors think that there is a reason that this particular article should not comply with this accessibility-related guideline, please explain your reasoning here. The guideline clearly states: . – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Cleanup to comply with [[MOS:FONTSIZE]]  

message: The article states that he flies "by spinning his tails like a helicopter rotor," but I think that may be not very easy to understand. If he spins the tails in the same direction, that creates two problems, and it took me some time to realise that, if he spins them in different directions, that solves both. Maybe including this in the article would be OR, but is it easy for humans to see that? Orisphera2 (talk) 15:43, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the part "like a helicopter rotor" easily understandable? 

message: recently upon revisiting the articles, specifically of Sonic characters who appear in the new Sonic game "Sonic Dream Team" (this was 2 weeks ago mind you) the page's reference images of the characters themselves have been changed to their respective renders from Dream Team, aprox 3 days later (i assume, i cant be too sure) they were reverted back to the flat 2000s images and i think, why do this exactly? i think the use of the Dream Team renders better suit the characters themselves and the Yuji Uekawa art has been used for, what was it like 10 years now? i think it shouldnt hurt too much to atleast change the images eventually. Miner Eleven (talk) 00:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought this up at Talk:Shadow the Hedgehog when it was happening. The Fandom wiki on Sonic the Hedgehog has always used the latest renders to represent the characters, but most folks who work on the relevant pages on Wikipedia are more interested in using the long-standing and more iconic 2D art. Plus it means we do not need to upload more non-free media. Reconrabbit 01:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  2023 Dream Team renders? 

message: wanna be a hero?@ 197.219.35.119 (talk) 13:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  hi I'm tails