Talk:Pastoral

message: Swapped Wordsworth's name with Alexander Pope. Wordsworth's (along with Ambrose Phillips) pastoral poetry represented a break from the Virgilian tradition, not a continuation of it, around the turn of the century. --JH 69.236.37.131 10:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: ===Pastoral literature in English===
A work can contain many pastoral elements mixed with other genres.  Sir Philip Sidney's Arcadia, though taking place among shepherds in Arcadia, features the royal family, who have retired to the countryside for peace, and centers on the romances of princes and princesses.  The fourth act of Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale features a pastoral setting, but the focus is on the apparent shepherdess, Perdita, who is actually a foundling and a princess, and the setting is intruded on by her princely lover Florizel, and by his disapproving father the king.  Sir Calidore, the Knight of Courtesy in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queen finds that the Blatant Beast is unknown among the shepherds, but he himself comes from outside, and the shepherdess Pastorella whom he loves is revealed at the end to be a foundling, the daughter of a knight and lady.  Indeed, many foundlings in literature are taken up by the pure and simple folk of the pastoral, but are themselves of higher birth and from civilization, to which they return at the story's end.  Similarly, the heroes and heroines of fairy tales written by the précieuses often appeared in pastoral settings, but these figures were royal or noble, and their simple setting does not cloud their innate nobility.Lewis Seifert, "The Marvelous in Context: The Place of the Contes de Fées in Late Seventeenth Century France", Jack Zipes, ed., The Great Fairy Tale Tradition: From Straparola and Basile to the Brothers Grimm, p 920-1,   In modern fantasy works, the setting is often pastoral.Jane Yolen, "Introduction" p viii After the King: Stories in Honor of J.R.R. Tolkien, ed, Martin H. Greenberg, 
If the above passage is meant to imply that a work is not entirely pastoral because the protagonists are noble foundlings, it certainly needed to be excised.  The plot of Daphnis and Chloe hinges entirely upon the eponymous characters' status as noble foundlings.  I believe that many other pastoral prose romances of the 1st and 2nd century contained the same plot device.  Sidney and Shakespeare were working out of this entirely pastoral tradition. 97.91.191.87 (talk) 06:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: A work can contain many pastoral elements mixed with other genres.  Sir Philip Sidney's Arcadia, though taking place among shepherds in Arcadia, features the royal family, who have retired to the countryside for peace, and centers on the romances of princes and princesses.  The fourth act of Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale features a pastoral setting, but the focus is on the apparent shepherdess, Perdita, who is actually a foundling and a princess, and the setting is intruded on by her princely lover Florizel, and by his disapproving father the king.  Sir Calidore, the Knight of Courtesy in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queen finds that the Blatant Beast is unknown among the shepherds, but he himself comes from outside, and the shepherdess Pastorella whom he loves is revealed at the end to be a foundling, the daughter of a knight and lady.  Indeed, many foundlings in literature are taken up by the pure and simple folk of the pastoral, but are themselves of higher birth and from civilization, to which they return at the story's end.  Similarly, the heroes and heroines of fairy tales written by the précieuses often appeared in pastoral settings, but these figures were royal or noble, and their simple setting does not cloud their innate nobility.Lewis Seifert, "The Marvelous in Context: The Place of the Contes de Fées in Late Seventeenth Century France", Jack Zipes, ed., The Great Fairy Tale Tradition: From Straparola and Basile to the Brothers Grimm, p 920-1,   In modern fantasy works, the setting is often pastoral.Jane Yolen, "Introduction" p viii After the King: Stories in Honor of J.R.R. Tolkien, ed, Martin H. Greenberg, 
If the above passage is meant to imply that a work is not entirely pastoral because the protagonists are noble foundlings, it certainly needed to be excised.  The plot of Daphnis and Chloe hinges entirely upon the eponymous characters' status as noble foundlings.  I believe that many other pastoral prose romances of the 1st and 2nd century contained the same plot device.  Sidney and Shakespeare were working out of this entirely pastoral tradition. 97.91.191.87 (talk) 06:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pastoral literature in English

message: I believe there should be some mention here that even the Louvre (the museum that now houses this work) attributes this work to Titian.Shane.Bell (talk) 09:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Concert Champêtre

message: There are pastoral traditions outside of Europe - notably the Krishna story in Hindu religion/mythology which is the dominant theme of Hinduism, culminating in the Bhagavad Gita.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.173.184.35 (talk) 17:52, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: too western?

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message: Several of the Bilblical articles link to this page but it does not include a section on "Pastoral" in the religious context. Elmorian (talk) 03:30, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, because Christ is referred to as The Good Shepherd.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Religious" section?