Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion/Left Hand Path work group

message: Anton Long, Stephen Kasner and Steven Johnson Leyba are being considered for deletion. Please feel free to comment on this at :Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anton Long, :Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Kasner and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steven Johnson Leyba. Thank you. Badbilltucker 15:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles being considered for deletion

message: HS, firstly I think it best for us to define exactly what Left Hand Path means. I'm sure we all have our own meanings with some commoniality between them. How bout as a start each one of us write at least a paragrph on their definition and after that we all work together to make the paragraphs one. Just a thought, I'm not trying to lead, but I am trying to create a solid foundaion on which to build. I re-read Crowleys chapters on the left hand path, originally read in my very early 20's. I will write a summery of his work and paste it here for the rest of you to mull over. I'd like to hold off on this until I see some other peoples definitions. But if no one steps up to the plate I will cast the first stone into the pond of blackness. Pehaps the splash and the ripples will wake the sleepy hands to write.Rev. Michael S. Margolin 09:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left Hand Path according to Crowley 

message: First, the Satan article itself. It gives an overview of "Satanism" in their "Satanism" section but not how Satan is SEEN In Satanism. Next, many of the Satanism articles are of "B" class and could use improvement! More details in sources. One of my complaints is that many articles don't even mention the nature of Satan. Why not? Its "Satan"ism. Why not talk about it? WerewolfSatanist 05:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideas and Areas of Interest  

message: The Order of Nine Angles article was removed from the Satanism links a while ago. Now the article itself seems to have been removed from Wikipedia. Why?
207.34.120.71 20:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone can nominate an article for deletion, and, once that is done, then anyone else can express an opinion. Evidently, the article got a lot more support as non-notable (as per Wikipedia:Notability) than notable. However, if there is sufficient interest, or proof of notability, then the article can be proposed to be reinstated at Wikipedia:Deletion review and discussion to reinstate it can take place. Badbilltucker 22:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would propose the article for reinstatement at Deletion Review, indicating that you have specific, non-trivial sources for the notability of the group and naming them. That should be more than sufficient, ultimately, to reinstate the article. Badbilltucker 02:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what happened to the ONA article? 

message: So what exactly is the agenda? I see there already is an LHP Article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Hand_Path. Are we to improve it? Or make an alternative?Rev. Michael S. Margolin 05:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LHP 

message: Lack of interest after the Satanism bias article battle is in a queit state?Rev. Michael S. Margolin 21:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOI ? 

message: Come on, devil worshippers! Why are you leaving Satan to writhe in B-class perdition? If you really do have companionship with the devil, Satan, or whatever demons you invoke, improve this article. If you fail I will turn you into toads. Meep 10:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Exhortation

message: I started messing with the banner because  Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) started messing with the Theistic Satanism article. And I'm sure all of you will admit the banner only reflects the CoS and no others except Karla who they rejected first but she won a space in mediation. I put up SoS not my name and was accused of making a personal plug. I countered with I'm not SoS and a personal plug would be me putting my name up. Haunted brought up a good point that the SoS page is deleted therefore there is a dead link problem with including it in the banner. He is right.
If it is possible I'd like to see someone put it up for undeletion and include the tv, book, and soon to be books and interviews along with all the other Satanic groups that support SoS.
To allow CoS to monopolize the Satanism article and banner is an extremely one sided and  biased view on Satanism. I'll admit that most Satanic groups are carbon copies of CoS but SoS is not.
Therefore would be a good canidate to show the world there is more to Satanism than Anton LaVey and reverse Christianity. Also allowing Crowley to be a prominate figure as well. And most of you are unaware that in his foot notes to the Bornless Ritual Crowley claims Hadit the winged globe to be Satan. Though Crowley personally distained the term Satanist his Beast 666 claim sure puts him in the catagory of Satanist along with Hadit being Satan one of the gods in his book of the law.Rev. Michael S. Margolin 17:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sinagogue of Satan undelete

message: I'm currently trying to rewrite and expand that article. Its going fairly well seeing as I just figured out my password on here again! But any help/suggestions are appreciated. I am looking around at some Featured Articles for inspiration in order to get a better idea of what Wikipedia expects. What would really help is if people tracked down sources and things like that. Preferably on the Church of Satan website or in the main works of LaVeyan Satanism, such as the Satanic Bible. WerewolfSatanist 22:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LaVeyan Satanism 

message: Thanks Haunted Angel!Rev. Michael S. Margolin 01:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left Hand Path group user box 

message: We need sources of info if anything else, and I happened to dig one up. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,877779-1,00.html Its on the occult in general but goes into Satanism at about page four or so. WerewolfSatanist 01:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Why are we now deprived of the Sigil of Baphomet as a symbol for the Satanism articles and our wonderful work group? And should we use the simple inverted pentagram that we now have for userboxes?
Well I'd say that the Church of Satan is pissed and don't want it known they stole it from Eliphas Levi 1700's along with the fact most of their bible was stolen from Arthur Desmond writers name Ragnar Redbeard, book,"Might is Right" along with butchering the Enochian calls, John Dee Apparenty the Satanism article is bearing more truth than the Church of Satan is comfortable with.Rev. Michael S. Margolin 03:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you believe this is so, please find reliable sources that report this fact and feel free to add that supported information to the appropriate articles. Otherwise, this is nothing more than a forum-style debate that does little to build Wikipedia. Vassyana 22:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The letters are Hebrew. Proceeding widdershins from the bottom character they read 'Leviathan'. --The DA 23:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images? 

message: This User was trying to delete many of the Satanism related articles with speedy tags.  Just FYI.  --David Shankbone 22:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:Craigtalbert]]

message: Why was this article suddenly deleted? -31/01/2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.132.102.84 (talk) 03:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[First Church of Satan]]

message: The editors of the simple English wikipedia have recently requested some assistance in developing their content. Right now, they could stand to have some content development related to the Left Hand Path. So far as I can see, they have pages on simple:Left Hand Path and simple:Satanism, and that's about it, actually. If anyone would be interested in working with the simple English wiki to develop some of this content, please feel free  to contact either me, User:American Eagle or User:Eptalon. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple English Wikipedia 

message: HI, I tagged Tantrik for this work group based upon one of its categories. Someone more familiar with the subject and/or this group may want to double check this. Aleta Sing 16:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article tagged 

message: I remember seeing or reading the expression Left-Hand Path Freemason. Is there any evidence that the two are related somehow ? Many of the Left-Hand Path organizations appear to be built in a similar structure to Freemasonry, which is that of a secret society with secretive and occult rituals that remain unknown to the general public. It could be argued that the wo are similar, but that doesn't necesarily mean that they are the same. ADM (talk) 06:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Left-Hand Path Freemason

message: Someone (not me) has proposed a merge of Satan into Devil discuss at Talk:Satan#Satan_merged_into_Devil.3F. I am circulating this among relevant boards. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Coordination of activity. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Call for editors to help manage religion related content 

message: I noticed Temple of the Vampire has been deleted 3 times due to the article not establishing importance/notability/significance of the group. I know that the Vampire Temple is  not as famous as Church of Satan but they do list the group so I'm wondering if that affiliation (and interviews like this one) and this one with this [person on Coast to Coast AM might lead to notability? Here's the radio description:
*Date:	10-09-05
*Host:	Art Bell
*Guests: Paul Moller, Nemo Hennessy
*In this 5-hour rebroadcast from 10/25/03, Art Bell talked with Paul Moller of Moller International about Skycars followed by Nemo, a representative of the Vampire Religion.
:"Nemo" is a Living Vampire, a member of the secret society known as the Temple of the Vampire. He is a member of the Temple Priesthood and a Temple Master Adept. The Temple is an international church devoted to the Vampire religion, legally registered with the U.S. federal government since 1989.
:Temple members are true Vampires, members of the Vampire religion. Vampirism is not easily understood and is reserved only to those who are born to the Blood, those who feel the draw of the Night, those who find that they are different from the herd of humanity and glory in that difference. To find those who are of the Blood but have been unaware of their Heritage is the Mission and purpose of the Temple.
I was figuring a semi-stub on the project until a potential point where notability is determined to be significant enough to warrant an article? Y12J (talk) 12:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ToV

message: There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter (talk) 21:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed MOS for Religion