Talk:British Guiana 1c magenta

message: I would sure like to know more about Vernon Vaughan, the sources seem to vary on his name and nationality (English vs Scottish), but the only lead I've found is that the British West Indies Study Circle might have published an article about him. Stan 17:16 Mar 29, 2003 (UTC)
:What I am curious about in regards Vernon's story is - what was a newspaper stamp doing on an envelope found amongst correspondence? Were there any other stamps on that envelope that he soaked the stamp off - or was the stamp the solitary one? The position of the postmark suggests that there may have been others... 
:Stan,the BG 1c was indeed printed directly onto the newspaper...as You have interest in this subject I would like to send a hires scan of my copy. User:Kentlbaker
:Vernon's story does bear investigation and study. Arno 07:04 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)
:Was this a newspaper stamp, or was this a general purpose stamp printed on a newspaper press?  This old Time Magazine story claims the latter (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,747975,00.html), but an actual philatelic source would be more trustworthy, I think. Bassington 01:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 02:31, 2 Nov 2004 Lord Emsworth (British Guiana 1c magenta moved to British Guiana 1¢ magenta)
yet I can't find anything at British Guiana 1¢ magenta, nor in Special:Undelete/British Guiana 1¢ magenta, and there's a real article (now reverted-to) in the history. —No-One Jones (m) 22:02, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Hmm, perhaps the "¢" is not good to have in titles? Stan 07:16, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: 2003/2004 posts

message: Not! That's red or carmen, dude, not magenta. WB2 18:35, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The image used was not accurate and was the wrong color and has been replaced. See discussion below.  Ecphora (talk) 13:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "magenta" 

message: The article states that the sale price was $935K while a television program (History's Lost and Found) I was just watching had "evidence" (newspaper headline?) and vocal indication that the price was $850,000.
http://durianon.tripod.com/id55.html states 1980: Weinberg's syndicate sold the stamp for $935,000 (including buyer's premium) to John E. du Pont
Is the $935K the sum of $850K + $85K "buyer's premium" of 10%? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JByrd (talk • contribs)  20:31, 14 May 2006
:Yes.  That is the customary practice.Fconaway (talk) 04:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Purchase price of Penny Magenta

message: The term "definitive" as used here seems to be confusing.  Wasn't the stamp issued in an emergency?Fconaway
:Actually, I think the term is perhaps more anachronistic, this is years before the first commemoratives. Simplest just to drop it, the link is not adding any value. Stan 02:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Definitive emergency issue?

message: I think the cent sign is inappropriate here, since it is usually used to describe the cents of the USD, not GBP pence (p) or pence (d). I made that change and then got reverted by someone called "ww2censor", who I disagree with, but don't want to incite a revert war with. 76.117.247.55 (talk) 00:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Many countries use/d cents in their currencies which are not the USD. Please take a worldview, taking a US-centric view is narrow minded and wrong. Show a verifiable source for the use of the "d" penny and I will be happy to work on this with you, but the stamp itself uses the word "CENT". Do you dispute that fact? No one has disputed this for the last 5 years and neither has anyone from the Philately WikiProject. ww2censor (talk) 01:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Many British Guiana stamps used a number with a small "c" to indicate "cent"  (e.g., Scott cat nos 152-201, J1-J4.), but apparently did not use the "¢" with the line.  A quick check indicates that US stamps used the ¢ from about 1933 through about 1957-8 and thereafter switched to the "c" without a line, which in turn was dropped about 1985.  Who knew there was a deliberate pattern here?  Anyway, since British Guiana never used the ¢ form, perhaps it should be changed to "c".  Ecphora (talk) 03:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can go with that. ww2censor (talk) 03:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I reverted it on discovery that British Guiana at the time used a "Dollars" (With "Cents", according to the page on it). I was expecting it to be denominated in £sd, per British practice of the time, which would have resulted in "d." being appropriate. Finally, since this has been resolved, I would note that your initial reply came across as being unnecessarily hostile. 76.117.247.55 (talk) 17:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Guyanese dollar should have the answer, but doesn't seem to mention a preferred abbreviation (nor any of the related West Indies currency articles I looked at). Stan (talk) 12:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency symbol 

message: Aftre the auction Sotherby's screwed up by only adding their normal 10% buyer premium for $1m+ when they should ahve added the 20% buyers premium for this sale which made the final price $9.4m. as now stated. This result was the original but wrong final price but has now been corrected. Here is the offical news statement. ww2censor (talk) 12:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering about what caused that.  Do we have a source about this discrepancy?  They don't seem to address it in the press release.  For that matter, Sotheby's seems to be omitting the hammer price from all their information also — or have I just not found the right document? --Closeapple (talk) 09:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've corrected the link above to an image of the original wrong final price but this YouTube video has the auctioneer confirming the price. Several other videos are available too but this one is from a stampboards member and there has been a very detailed discussion on the stampboards about the whole auction. It's a long thread but you might like to start about here: http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=52624&start=440 though some of the previous posts in the discussion are interesting too. There is even a video of the auction. BTW, I think the weight comparison is just silly and a waste of time to even discuss. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 12:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sotheby's June 2014 sale price

message: I took a tour today of the National postal museum with a docent. The display for the Magenta is there, but there is a quickly posted temporary sign saying the item is removed. I asked the docent and he said he just learned this week that the item was removed, and he has no idea where it is or if the donor will continue to display it there. He suspects it may go to London. I have no sources for this except the museum employee! Just saying it’s not there. Chris.ridgeway (talk) 01:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stamp is no longer displayed at National Postal Museum in DC—unknown where it’s at 

message: The statement that the drop in price at auction from 2014 to 2021 is due to Weitzman signing the back sounds like conjecture/editorializing and unless supported by some reliable citation or quote from an observer connected to the sale, should be deleted. Practically all past owners signed the stamp as well (albeit in more modest fashion) and it never dropped in price before. There are many other possible causes for a drop in price, including that Weitzman simply overbid in 2014. Tulliux (talk) 01:44, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't find any such claim, so have removed it and added citations to the price in the lede and the public display by SG that I moved to the more appropriate public display section. ww2censor (talk) 14:03, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claim needs citation 

message: I recently watched a video on this stamp claiming it was the most expensive thing by weight. Can anyone find a reliable source? סשס Grimmchild 08:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it the most expensive thing by weight?