Talk:Power Rangers Jungle Fury

message: Do not add anything that we do not know from the history of Power Rangers as a TV show or outside of reliable sources such as the trademarks or the photos from the licensing show. We do not know anything about characters, Zords, monsters, villains, allies, or the motif as of this writing.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Note

message: Please leave these redirects alone until the show premieres.
* Jungle Fury Power Rangers
* Allies in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury
* Villains in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury
* List of Power Rangers: Jungle Fury monsters
* List of Power Rangers: Jungle Fury episodes
These redirects were created for the purpose of keeping people from making speculative articles. After the show premieres, then feel free to add information to the above redirects, but until then, they should be left alone. Mythdon (talk) 01:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect note

message: All right, based on the source footage in Gekiranger, there are three Rangers, with an extra fourth, violet hero in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury. These are as follows: Jake Lee Dunn, the Red Jungle Fury Ranger; Montgomery Carver, the Blue Jungle Fury Ranger; Jacqueline "Jackie" Kennedy, the Yellow Jungle Fury Ranger; and Steve Chase, the Violet Jungle Fury Ranger (unofficial).
Well, this is not likely, since this is an unconfirmed info or speculation, we have to wait until the official cast comes out. Bryan Seecrets 08:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those names are not in anyway similar to other rumors. There's a script uploaded by Poweranimals at RangerBoard that uses Theo and Lily. We're not going to be using any rumors anyway.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 08:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than Theo and Lily, what of the Blue Ranger? He should be Jake Lee Dunn or Montgomery Carver? I think not. Bryan Seecrets 09:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We need something more than rumors. And we cannot add information based solely on Gekiranger until we get a trailer or something.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose Theo and Lily are the names used in a script uploaded by Poweranimals at RangerBoard. As for the cast, I think Harriet Owen is likely to be one of the candidates of playing Lily, the Yellow Jungle Fury Ranger. --Bryan Seecrets 05:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever. That information cannot be put on this article until we have proof.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, it generally turns out to be right (with the recent exception of Nick, who had his first name changed from Nate between casting calls and filming), but you can't put information up on Wikipedia unless you can properly cite it, and that's not going to happen unless these casting scripts uploaded by Poweranimals/MR-AfterShock/whoever each year were physically on Disney's own website for us to link, or the website of affiliated acting agencies.  And I guarantee you that won't ever happen, due to non-disclosure agreements (that are technically broken in order for the fandom to get scripts). Arrowned 16:46, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rangers 

message: Samuel Benta revealed on his new "Rangercast" forum that the 2009 PR series may be animated if negotiations go ahead, effectivly making JF the final live-action season 
http://www.rangercast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1852&posted=1#post1852
I wouldnt put this in the article at all presently, just throwing out that this exists. Dr. R.K.Z  —The preceding  signed but undated. 
:There is no source backing this up.  Benta is not a reliable source--why would he be privy to stuff like this?--Aresef 17:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't take anyone's word as truth. Until Disney releases something to the effect of "Power Rangers will be animated from 2009 on" then it's all speculation, and it has no bearing on the content of this article at the time being.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: PA is about as reliable as Dukemon. Both have shady sources that Wikipedia can't use.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well maybe this is true Ryulong. But i agree with you. We cannot use these sources until Disney has confirmed this information. Mythdon (talk) 06:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Season?

message: Poweranimals at Rangerboard (the person who revealed James was the Overdrive Red Ranger last year) has released info on one of the cast members for JF, possibly the Yellow Ranger, Anna Hutchison.
Rangerboard Post: http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=110240
Modeling Agency Page: http://www.johnsonlaird.com/bios/search_actors.aspx?clientid=25&clientname=Anna+Hutchinson&division=actor&action=1&dom=johnsonlaird# 
She played a supporting role in the Disney Channel Original Movie (DCOM) Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior as one of Wendy's friends. Not saying this should be added, just putting this here for this reason.
DO NOT ADD HER UNTIL IT IS CONFIRMED BY SOMEONE OTHER THEN A FORUM MEMBER
In other words.... If a Modeling Company such as the one I just posted, as Caitlin, James, AND Ria were confirmed by that same company last year, or an official disney source has not confirmed that they are to be in Jungle Fury, DO NOT ADD THEM TO THE PAGE.
Sorry, I just remember last year... So much vandalism to the OO page with cast members it's not funny :/ Myzou 23:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Until the show comes on Anna Hutchinson is nothing more than a someone you might meet at the supermarket.  What if I said Barry Vincent wore red?  And even so.  If someone posted Anna her article would be deleted since there is no verification. The Technodrome's Toilet 06:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read what I said =P I was saying she shouldn't be added LOL Myzou 04:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism Soon to Come ~.~

message: http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=110409
I know there will be a Red Tiger Ranger, Yellow Cheetah Ranger, Blue Jaguar Ranger, Purple Wolf Ranger, and White Rhino Ranger, but where the heck did those other guys pop out of!!!!! 24.184.10.38 21:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every year, Bandai makes toys of extra Ranger colors that never appear in the show.  This is nothing new; the only difference here (and the reason why people are substantiating the "in the show" rumor) is because this is the first time Bandai didn't just repaint the Red Ranger toy to make the rest of the knockoffs. Arrowned 21:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I understand. 24.184.10.38 19:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These aren't just extra ranger color toyline nonsense. The Gekirangers mastered other beast fists than there ranger animal designation (aka:Shark & Gorilla for Red(tiger) ranger, Elephant & Penguin for Yellow(cheetah) ranger; and Batz & Gazelle for Blue(jaguar) ranger)71.166.67.68 (talk) 22:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And?  That still doesn't prove anything about whether this rumor is true or not, and we can't mention it in the article until said proof appears, if it exists.  Said proof, in this case, would probably be the show itself at this point. Arrowned (talk) 23:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not trying to prove anything. I just don't want good information to be dismissed as nonsense that's all.71.166.5.39 (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And I wasn't saying it's nonsense.  I'm just making it clear why it can't be mentioned in the article. Arrowned (talk) 17:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

text: What is in the Power Rangers toy line for any particular series is not a definitive description of what is going to be in the Power Rangers television show for that series. However many Battlizers, Transarmors, Zords, Megazords, Evil Space Aliens, et al. there are for the toys does not mean that they are going to be in the TV show. It was odd that the Red Ranger's Transtek Armor actually showed up in the show in Operation Overdrive (however one of the other male Power Rangers always gets some sort of bike, so if anything, the Blue Ranger will be getting a Jaguar-themed motorcycle). However, we cannot be totally sure about anything until the shoe actually premieres.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 17:55, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Until the shoe premieres?! Don't you mean until the show premieres? --Scouser1961 (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are we the typo police?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

text: We never said we didn't believe you, and honestly a few of us knew about this already.  It's an issue with verifiablity, nothing more. Arrowned (talk) 05:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: We don't have a clear print source that says any of this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Green Elephant Ranger, Black Bat Ranger, and Light Blue Shark Ranger?

message: They just ran the promo on toon disney (I'm rewatching it on my PVR), it brings up "Order of the claw". Isn't that enough?Metropod 01:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's enough, but not for a character section heading; all of the season articles use the same layout (Characters top heading, Allies/Villains subheadings).  Mentioning Order of the Claw would be better in some type of synopsis, not in the character area. Arrowned 01:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of the claw

message: Why hasn't the logo been up yet? It's been shown on TV now. Poweranimals 01:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because no one has uploaded a version that has a decent copyright rationale attached to it and its proper source.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

text: While you don't necessarily need to have permission (almost nobody ever has permission when uploading video game box covers), you do need to detail an appropriate fair use rationale for non-free images, and yes, you need to link where you found it on the image's page.  It's not a difficult process at all, but it does need to be done for any image on Wikipedia that's not under GNU. Arrowned 05:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The PRJF logo?

message: The toys have been coming out in retail and people have bought them.  The toyline is usually considered a good source, second only to the show itself.  From people who have bought the toys and have seen the packages with their own eyes, we know that the villain is, in fact, Dai Shi, not Dai Shin (I never heard the 'n' in the preview anyway...) and we know GekiTouja is called the Jungle Pride Megazord.  Other information should be left out for now since its inclusion on the show is questionable, but the name of the villain and the Megazord are undeniably going to be part of the show and I feel they should corrected/added. Rmssw (talk) 04:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Toys are never a good base for renaming things. The Dai Shi thing is best, but "Jungle Pride Megazord" should be left out until the show and stuff.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Toyline and Names

message: Lily - Lily is played by Anna Hutchison, her previous work includes Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior , and Shortland Street.
Casey - Casey is played by Jason Smith, his previous work includes Home And Away.
Theo - Theo is played by Alin Abella, who has had no professional acting in the past whatsoever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lapadfeys (talk • contribs) 02:33, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We pretty much already know that.  If you're asking why none of that information is in the actual article, see WP:V. Arrowned (talk) 05:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The Unconfirmed Details section from last year just had character name notes from casting scripts, and even then, the "color theorizing" broke WP rules.  That's not an issue now since we know the names and colors of the starting three, but regardless, information about actors rumored to be portraying characters aren't even as citable as casting script info, and clearly couldn't go in the article either way. Arrowned (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

text: IMDB and TV.com cannot be used as references because, like Wikipedia, the info in their databases are user-submitted.  To properly pass WP:V, all information added to this article needs to be from primary or secondary sources, such as Disney websites, Disney press releases, acting agency websites, TVGuide.com in the case of episode titles and airdates, or the episodes themselves in the case of plot details.  Fansites and fanforums can only be used as sources if the information cited was said by someone on the show's staff, and even then, that's hard to absolutely prove for the purposes of an encyclopedia, considering how easy it is for people on the Net to pretend to be others. Arrowned (talk) 21:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Not it does not stink. People cannot just add random speculation on Wikipedia, do you understand. The user you replied to is right, you cannot add speculative items on the Wikipedia articles. We are not trying to be mean, but thats the way it is.--Mythdon (talk) 00:47, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

message: This page looks like it should be archived this February as right now we are talking about information before the shows premiere date. I believe it should be archived in February so we can talk about after premiere stuff after if the page is archived in February. Mythdon (talk) 09:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of this page can be archived, yes, but there's a lot of discussions here that, while old, are still valid now.  Specifically all the ones talking about fandom rumors and why they shouldn't be on the article.  Keeping those obsolete discussions on the talk page for the time being may help keep rumors out of the article until we finally get a full cast list and episode titles. Arrowned (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I still think the whole page should be archived when the shows first episode airs so we can talk soley about stuff concerning after premiere stuff. And also because from what i tell the topics right now will be outdated and useless after the premiere. Mythdon (talk) 02:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Archiving is only really necessary for the oldest discussions that have no merits at the moment. Other than that, most of the discussions here could stay.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are necessary now. But after the first episode airs, most of the topics being discussed here (specifically fan based rumors) will have no reason being discussed because the real information will already be confirmed by early-late February. Mythdon (talk) 03:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right.  Then we can talk about archiving again in two months, since the discussion isn't necessary at the moment. Arrowned (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

text: You are honestly the only one that cares. The discussions on this page could be helpful, despite being nearly a year old.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At this time, they are helpful. When the series premieres, they should be archived, because the discussions on this page will prove less helpful, because we are talking about rumors such as about the cast, and bla bla bla. And what do you mean im honestly the only one that cares?. Mythdon (talk) 07:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We won't know this until issues arise. Some talk pages never get archived.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Does it really matter?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it matters, although we can afford to wait a few more weeks to months (maybe until September/October), because this talk page is still navigatable in a fine manner. Mythdon (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But why do you keep coming back to this? It's not a necessary thing. Yet you keep saying "let's archive" "should we archive now" over and over again. Drop it and find something else to edit about.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I acknoledge it. Because i have been discussing the archiving for this page since December of 2007. It is just that you pointed it out. When do you think the page will need archived?. Mythdon (talk) 01:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Stop asking already. Geez.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying I should bring it up on that date?. Mythdon (talk) 01:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm saying you should stop bringing it up.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Will it be archived?. Mythdon (talk) 01:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Who knows. It's not important if it is or is not. Stop asking.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And one more thing. Do you think this talk page would grow much more after series end?. Mythdon (talk) 01:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it matter? Every four months you ask this. Just leave it be.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of the space on the page. Once a page gets so immense in size, it becomes hard to navigate. Mythdon (talk) 02:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not matter.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as you see it, it doesn't matter. As far as I see it, it does matter. Lets drop the discussion yet again, for now. Mythdon (talk) 02:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Drop it permanently. It's such a minor minor matter that you continually come back to. Leave things be for once.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The page is only about 80 kilobytes large right now, and isn't even that unwieldy; there's not that many convos, and the Table of Contents cleanly keeps them in order.  By the time the season ends, this talk page will probably ceased to be used much at all, so it won't ever get that much bigger.  Honestly, archiving is a little pointless here, IMO. Arrowned (talk) 03:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it should be archived. By series end, the page will probably be 8-11 sections larger. So I believe archiving is necessary. Mythdon (talk) 03:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eight to eleven more sections?  For a series that's almost finished, with only six relatively-straightforward episodes remaining, with little in the way of major plot shifts upcoming?  That's a bit over-optimistic. Arrowned (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe more like 5-10 sections then? Right?. Mythdon (talk) 03:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be surprised if we got anymore than 2 or 3, based on questions that may go down with what exactly will happen to Jarrod in the finale.  Other than that, there's not really much left about the series to discuss that's not already either obvious or already taken care of in the article. Arrowned (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive soon needed 

message: Since it has been so long and since it the page is immensly bigger than since then, does anyone think this page needs to be archived yet?. Mythdon (talk) 07:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it really matter?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it matters, although we can afford to wait a few more weeks to months (maybe until September/October), because this talk page is still navigatable in a fine manner. Mythdon (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But why do you keep coming back to this? It's not a necessary thing. Yet you keep saying "let's archive" "should we archive now" over and over again. Drop it and find something else to edit about.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I acknoledge it. Because i have been discussing the archiving for this page since December of 2007. It is just that you pointed it out. When do you think the page will need archived?. Mythdon (talk) 01:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time yet? 

message: I feel that this talk page should be archived on the date that this series ends. Is that a good date?. Mythdon (talk) 11:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop asking already. Geez.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying I should bring it up on that date?. Mythdon (talk) 01:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm saying you should stop bringing it up.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Will it be archived?. Mythdon (talk) 01:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Who knows. It's not important if it is or is not. Stop asking.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And one more thing. Do you think this talk page would grow much more after series end?. Mythdon (talk) 01:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it matter? Every four months you ask this. Just leave it be.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of the space on the page. Once a page gets so immense in size, it becomes hard to navigate. Mythdon (talk) 02:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not matter.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as you see it, it doesn't matter. As far as I see it, it does matter. Lets drop the discussion yet again, for now. Mythdon (talk) 02:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Drop it permanently. It's such a minor minor matter that you continually come back to. Leave things be for once.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The page is only about 80 kilobytes large right now, and isn't even that unwieldy; there's not that many convos, and the Table of Contents cleanly keeps them in order.  By the time the season ends, this talk page will probably ceased to be used much at all, so it won't ever get that much bigger.  Honestly, archiving is a little pointless here, IMO. Arrowned (talk) 03:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it should be archived. By series end, the page will probably be 8-11 sections larger. So I believe archiving is necessary. Mythdon (talk) 03:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eight to eleven more sections?  For a series that's almost finished, with only six relatively-straightforward episodes remaining, with little in the way of major plot shifts upcoming?  That's a bit over-optimistic. Arrowned (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe more like 5-10 sections then? Right?. Mythdon (talk) 03:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be surprised if we got anymore than 2 or 3, based on questions that may go down with what exactly will happen to Jarrod in the finale.  Other than that, there's not really much left about the series to discuss that's not already either obvious or already taken care of in the article. Arrowned (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series end 

message: I doubt this would be accepted but is it okay to add a sypnosis section or is that a DO NOT?. Mythdon (talk) 08:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you know the story based on reliable sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sypnosis section 

message: I think we need to clear the page until the series premiers. The actors listed to have parts are superfluous and do not have descriptions for their characters. Removing superfluous text will leave us with....about 4 periods, as nothing is set in stone until the show premiers. Mack-the-random (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are not many reliable sources that we can get information from, and your suggestion is nothing more than trying the remove information. Mythdon (talk) 01:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We have plenty of information, The ranger names, their zord animals, their weapons, the evil villain, and a basic description, on top of 3 confirmed people, 3 "confirmed" (BR is never wrong, but not a "reliable" source, so we have to hide his info til an "official" source states it ~.~) and then there's also the 4 unconfirmed actors (including the rangers), from just as reliable sources as BR. Myzou (talk) 12:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing what little information is there in the first place would leave the page even more dull and boring than it already is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.239.105.199 (talk) 17:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: IMO....

message: Anna H.
Jason S
Aljin A. are our cast members so go ahead and add them.
http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=114049  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.12.116 (talk) 01:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The actual press release would be nice, instead of a copy-paste from Burg.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: She showed up in the credits?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Then she can be added to the article.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

text: It has been added to the article but her name is misspelled.  It is Thomson without the P.  I double checked this on the credits. BCfromKY (talk) 01:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actors/Actresses 

message: The Press release at http://www.toondisneymedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?program_id=3115423&type=lead Says that Nikolai Nikolaeff Will be playing Dominic Hargan, who will become the (White) Rhino Ranger - Can that be added? 81.149.182.210 (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We have hidden notes in the article explaining our stance, but so there's an explanation here: Nikolai Nikolaeff is credited near the bottom, but we're not adding any text about how he and R.J. will become Rangers.  While WP:SPOILER and WP:Content disclaimer make it clear that we're not supposed to avoid spoilers for the sake of spoiling, things have changed between the press release and the actual airing of the show in the past.  Until we know specific details, it's best that the article follow the progression of the show and update as individual important things happen. Arrowned (talk) 21:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all well and good, but with no edit button, there's no way to see that. Shouldn't there be a banner or something explaining what kind of block, why, and how long at the top of the page? 81.149.182.210 (talk) 22:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This very conversation will serve well enough for the purpose of letting people know why we're going that route, now that I've explained it here.  As for the block, the reason behind that is simple: it's an effort to prevent vandalism. Arrowned (talk) 23:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I understand that, and have no problem with that, but I thought standard practise when a page is blocked to add a banner template at the top describing the kind of block, the reason, and (if applicable) the duration. For example; Sea of Japan 81.149.182.210 (talk) 00:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a lock in the upper right hand corner of the page that does the same thing. In the next few days, this page will be unblocked.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking maybe we could have a spoiler in the Rangers section (e.g. Dominic Hargen will be the White Ranger who will control the Rhino spirit. He will be portrayed by Nikolai Nikolaeff). This is only a suggestion as it was done with Tyzonn last year.--80.195.88.43 (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rhino Ranger 

message: Shouldn't the Power Morpher page be updated. Right now it lists an unspecified morpher based off the gekichanger which is nothing like the solar morphers.71.166.76.254 (talk) 23:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't even know that article existed.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And on that note, I wonder why it exists, since at first glance, all the information in it is near identical to what's already listed on every season front page, with maybe a tiny bit of descriptive extensions. Arrowned (talk) 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And the fact the jungle fury section has now been shown to be wrong.Metropod (talk) 01:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morphers 

message: I have had to delete the following pages because they were all direct copy-pastes from Linear Ranger's website, and as such, have been copyright violations.
*Jungle Fury Power Rangers
*Villains in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury
*List of Rinshi Beasts in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury
The content of these articles need to be rewritten from scratch.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Its horrible to hear that. Ohh well, cannot blame you for deleting the articles. It was copyright violation anyway. Mythdon (talk) 07:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

text: So what. Mythdon (talk) 01:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So I felt it was relavent to state since the status of these pages is being discussed.  Is that alright with you? Rmssw (talk) 02:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We are perfectly fine with the fact the page was created, and there is nothing wrong with creating those type of pages, and there is also nothing wrong with re-creating these deleted pages. Mythdon (talk) 03:26, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  All subpages deleted 

message: I believe the Show Description link made an error in transliterating the name of the kung fu academy, after watching the first episode.
The proper spelling should be Pai Zhua, which I suggest was a typo for two reasons. The obvious is that Q and A are near each other on the keyboard, and the word could not be spell checked in English.
The show is using Mandarin pinyin to convey names. In proper pinyin, the words "pai" and "zhua" are pronounced similar to "Pie + Shwa", which is the show's pronunciation of the school.
The following characters also convey a rough metaphor for the English name of the school, the Order of the Claw.
排 pai - line up/line/row
抓 zhua - scratch, the character is of a hand with fingers formed like a claw
http://zhongwen.com/
If "Pai Zhuq" were to be true, the name would not only have no contextual metaphor, but it would be pronounced something like "Pai Shook," and there is no -q ending in pinyin, Wade-Giles, or any other romanization of Mandarin.
AtenRa (talk) 12:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found the proper Mandarin characters and translation and applied it to the article.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pai Zhua, not Pai Zhuq 

message: Since Fractyl seems determined to state that the Jungle Bo is an alternate form of the Tonfa, I guess it warrants an actual discussion.  Lily calls on her weapon and two pieces appear.  She combines them to make the Bo.  While it is clear that the two peices of the Bo appear to be Tonfa, they are never stated to be Tonfa, nor are they implied in any way to be intended to be used as Tonfa.  The only thing they are stated and shown to be are pieces of her Bo.  Perhaps that will change in future episodes, but based only on the premier episode, saying they are Tonfa is speculation and cannot be added to the article.  Rmssw (talk) 18:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well to start, if you use the Gekiranger footage for a start, the "two weapons" are one and the same, only with two "perfered modes" depending on the user. Also, the fact that the even the toy version shows that. Now if the two weapon profiles can't be combined, the Jungle Bo should be refered as an alternate form of the Jungle Tonfa. Fractyl (talk) 03:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact remains that we've yet to see any of that on Power Rangers.  Gekiranger footage doesn't matter.  Until we're told on the show itself that the weapons are one in the same, the article can't say that they are.  Even if it does happen on the show (which it very well may), since the two modes are treated as two different weapons on the show, adding the information wouldn't be entirely necessary anyway...but if that happens, I will personally edit the section myself.  Rmssw (talk) 04:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just want to quickly point out that we have, in the past (specifically during OO), used the toyline as sourcing when nothing was available in the show.  So if he's right in that the toyline does indeed claim they're two modes of the same weapon (and I'd need to see picture proof, or perhaps I'll just run down to the local Target on Monday to check for myself), it'd be okay then, at least until the show says differently (which actually did happen in that same OO example). Arrowned (talk) 04:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does this help Arrowned Fractyl (talk) 04:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  First off, MUCH easier (and less messy) to use (:) instead of (*) to start ur paragraphs ;) Secondly, in the opening, it is QUITE clear that the 2 pieces she puts together are tonfa, due to the close up of her combining them. 70.231.237.107 (talk) 14:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No one is arguing that the Sentai footage of her making her Bo shows her putting the Tonfa together.  The debate is over whether or not they're supposed to be Tonfa in Power Rangers and whether or not they're the same Tonfa used by Theo.  Nothing from the first episode indicated that they are.  We simply saw Lily calling her weapon, two pieces appearing, and her combining them. This is just another issue involving things being fact in Sentai and being ambiguous in Power Rangers. Rmssw (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, that's because the Tonfa are team weapons. However as stated, the weapons have two-mode settings. It's no different to the Blade Blasters of MMPR. The only difference is that Theo is used to using tonfa in battle, while Lily prefers using the bo. So they have the same sidearm-weapon, they just prefer the different modes. In other words, Lily could use the tonfa mode, but she rather use the bo mode instead.Fractyl (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this.  However, it has still yet to be stated on the show that Lily's weapons are Tonfa at all.  That fact is from Sentai, not Power Rangers.  From what we've been shown on Power Rangers, each Ranger was specifically assigned their weapon.  Therefore, Lily's weapons would never be used in any form other than the Bo.  In the interest of streamlining the article, it's probably best to leave the section as-is rather than to add irrelavent information about how, technically, her Bo consists of the Tonfa when they will most likely never be used as such. Rmssw (talk) 03:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jungle Bo 

message: Just so you all know, i have just recreated the Jungle Fury Power Rangers article. Mythdon (talk) 21:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now, we don't have enough information in either place to start up an article on any of them just yet. As the show continues, there will be enough information for their own article.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the page should be started now, not to mention, there is already a Villains in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury. Mythdon (talk) 18:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I fear that we are getting nowhere. Fifteen episodes and so far the profiles have remained unchanged for four months; last year for the PROO Rangers, we had quite a lot of info for each of the Rangers, so why is this seriesan exception? --80.195.88.43 (talk) 13:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We've had issues concerning copyright violations for the entire period of time.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope the issues go away soon, it would be a shame to put the article up for deletion due to copyright violation.--80.195.88.43 (talk) 21:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jungle Fury Power Rangers]] created 

message: I haven't read anything on the other 20+ Subjects, but should we at least inculde the info on the secondary Zords since they are in the beginning.--Numyht (talk) 15:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We have no knowledge of how the other Zords are being included in Jungle Fury as of yet. It won't be very long until the Elephant Zord is introduced, if the progression of the series mirrors its source footage.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it be accetable to include that a Elephant, Bat, and Shark Zord are featured in the opening sequence? TRTX (talk) 05:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm personally not certain.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I would suggest we wait until those zords appear in the show, as including them in the article right now would be original research anyway. Mythdon (talk) 08:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shark, Bat and Elephant zords 

message: The article said RJ where be the Wolf Ranger later in the series. Where did anybody get that info, or is it just speculation? FiercedeitylinkX  —Preceding comment was added at 17:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no fact to it at all. Nor is the info about the "Rhino Ranger" Rick lay95 (talk) 17:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly both of you missed the citation immediately after both those lines leading to the press release provided by Disney themselves which does in fact list those as facts. Arrowned (talk) 17:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RJ as wolf Ranger 

message: I would like people to stop mentioning the fact ABC Kids airs this show, unless somebody gives me a link. Mythdon (talk) 00:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Airs this Saturday on ABC stations.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC Kids 

message: Did someone break the page? O.o all the stuff under episodes isn't showing up for me :3 Myzou (talk) 14:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uh... 

message: Rangerboard and a couple other sentai/power ranger message boards revealed the the Elephant, Shark, and Bat rangers will appear in the show..is it okay to mention them in the article, or would it be better to wait until they actually show up in the show? SilverBengal (talk) 16:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the picture itself is relatively legit (we had only a picture scan as proof for Thrax's return for some time), I'd say yes, but first I want a translation of that page so that we know exactly what aspect they'll appear in.  Otherwise, we have nothing to actually say about it. Arrowned (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, we need more evidence first, and then we can consider this official; then again, it was this time last year that Adam, Tori, Kira, Bridge and Xander were confirmed to be in the 15th Anniversary episode "Once a Ranger" although the episode title was not.--80.195.88.43 (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but that was confirmed via a leaked pic showing all 5 of them on the set of power rangers together =P A scan of the actual suits of the aux. rangers doesn't really confirm it, it came out around april, may have been a late april fools joke ;) Myzou (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Linear Ranger's website cannot be taken as a reliable source.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Because we have the original press release that mentions that such a character will appear in the show. The Bat, Shark, and Elephant Rangers don't have that distinction yet.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

text: When they appear in the show or in a press release.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The three auxillary rangers 

message: No mention of it on this article, but the list of programmes affected by the strike includes Power Rangers. Digifiend (talk) 11:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how it dose effect Power Rangers? Can you cite how it is? Rick lay95 (talk) 14:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be difficult to.  We as a fanbase know it's the truth, but you can't put "invidivual writers from episode 16 on are anagrams for strike related terms" when there's no real citation other than fanforums to back it up; it's original research right now, no matter how true it is. Arrowned (talk) 15:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

text: The Wikipedia article about the writers strike mentioned it, without a source. I don't understand why they don't use New Zealand writers, since the show is filmed there nowadays? Digifiend (talk) 13:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007 Writers Strike 

message: why are these episode names not listed along with there date that they will air?
 
18.True Friends, True Spirits
Premiering On June 30, 2008 
19.  Path of the Rhino
Premiering On July 7, 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inferno17 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything up to episode 21 is in the page's code, but episodes not yet listed at secondary sources, such as tvguide.com or the Jetix schedule at tvlistings.zap2it.com, are hidden from public view.  KyL416 and BurgundyRanger have proven themselves to be very reliable as far as future episode titles go, but that's not enough to pass WP:V. Arrowned (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: episodes not listed 

message: Since it has aired on Fios, can we put Dominic in the Rangers section, as he morphed into Rhino Ranger in the episode Qilinmon (talk) 16:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's aired, citation is no longer required. This also means the "future cast" section is obsolete. Digifiend (talk) 13:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Path of the Rhino on Verion FiOS 

message: We need to make a consensual decision as to how we're going to handle stuff from these sources in the future.  Last names for Lily and Dominic were pulled from this article recently, which makes sense for Lily as her last name came from casting scripts (though, as a sidenote, Hayley's casting script last name is still mentioned at the Dino Thunder article).  But Dominic's last name came from the press release, which we used as a legitimate citation for the fact that R.J. and Dominic would both become Rangers eventually, as well as an official (bunk) spelling for Pai Zhuq.  I don't think it's fair to use one thing the press release offers and decry another; it should be all or nothing.  So what do you guys think we should go with in the future?  All or nothing? Arrowned (talk) 19:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I say wait until the end of the series (just two months left, right?) and, if the show doesn't give a last name for anybody, add the ones we know. If you recall, for most of Wild Force, Danny, Merrick and Max didn't have last names. Then, during the last episode, everyone announced their full name. That may happen this year as well. DeathWeed (talk) 05:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, we should wait until the season is over.  Press releases have been wrong in the past.  Even the official Jetix Operation Overdrive website got Will's last name wrong last year.  If nothing is said by the finale, then I see nothing wrong with using the secondary sources.  Rmssw (talk) 16:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're all giving good opinions that are answering my questions, but you're only addressing half the problem: I was also positing "Should we use the press releases at all"?  That includes info on future Rangers, like how this year's mentioned R.J. and Dominic.  How do you guys feel about that side of the coin? Arrowned (talk) 19:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Actually, no, I don't think we should use press releases as sources for anything regarding the future of a season.  They've proven to be unreliable in the past.  They are typically written before everything is finalized and are written by third party writers who are using second-hand information...i.e. someone is telling someone else what to write.  I see nothing wrong with using them as secondary sources after a season has finished to fill in gaps that may have been left by the show, such as the last names of this year's characters.  It's the same policy I would suggest for using the toyline as a source. Rmssw (talk) 00:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Press Release 

message: Ok we seem to be having an edit war with people removing the Spirit Ranger info. 
1. They have appeared in the show already, and the new episode has aired on Jetix XD which elaboartes further that the Spirit Rangers are projections of the Masters Spirits (and the Masters are good)
2. An argument was made that they probably wouldn't be around after this story arc was over, well Cat Ranger and Nova Ranger only had one episode appearances and are listed as Rangers.
3. preview scans in Terebi Magazine show the Spirit Rangers fighting agains the Rinshi WITH the Rangers..so thye will be turning good, images of "Red Korag" from the same magazine were used to illustrate that Koragg would be joining the Mystic Force Rangers long before he actually turned into Wolf Warrior, but we have to wait two weeks before I'm proven right and get to repost this information.
There is no reason to keep removing this information at all. It is factual and taken from the very show that ALL the info on this article is taken from. Qilinmon (talk) 00:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd argue the point about the article scans, since those could just as easily be mockups; the article TEXT never said a thing about what specifically would happen.  It's all assumptions (even if they are horribly logical assumptions that I'd be a retard not to believe).  However, you make a good point with Leanbow's red form.  Still, though.  It's not factual until it happens in the show, which has always been the route Wikipedia articles for PR has taken, specifically because of the rules on no original research.  I'll submit to points one and two, but this one deals with a Wikipedia rule and isn't really debatable.  Until we physically see them turn good when we can first watch the final episode of this three-parter, they'll have to stay in the Villains section. Arrowned (talk) 00:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Spirit Rangers 

message: I just want to raise the point that it is worthwhile having it their but it omits the Jungle Master Zords (Gorilla, Penguin, Antelope). Somebody has obviously got to the trouble of making the picture and it should rightly be there but should we hold off until we see if we get any more zords before adding it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.61.84 (talk) 13:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Eight Jungle Fury Zords 

message: I noticed that the Power Rangers page mentions Master Phant being the second oldest Power Ranger. I was wondering in what context that was meant to be? According to my PRU knowledge, all of the Spirit Rangers are over 10,000 years old and therefore he would best THE oldest Power Ranger considering previous to Master Phant there were Merrick and the Alien Rangers who were a little over 3,000 and 1,000 years old respectfully.RangerKing (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This discussion belongs on Talk:Jungle Fury Power Rangers. It has nothing to do with this article.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Jungle Fury Rangers Page 

message: where'd you get that from? that thread on rangerboard? or the library book?74.196.134.34 (talk) 23:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jetix's UK website.  Wikipedia consensus for the PR articles is to take last names from official websites to be legitimate unless contradicted by the show; we've done this for both Ninja Storm and Mystic Force (Dino Thunder and Operation Overdrive had everybody's last names eventually be spoken in-show, S.P.D. had those last names in the opening credits, and NS and MF had only some names spoken while the rest were just pulled from the websites).  Sources like casting sheets and press releases we tend to take with more grains of salt; they often change before the season starts, so we can never really trust them definitively.  This is why we're waiting for the UK website to put up Dominic's profile before we add "Hargan" for his last name. Arrowned (talk) 00:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Casey Rhodes

message: Been a while since an Evil Green Ranger.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Defender Of Justice (talk • contribs) 09:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well except the evil rangers in season 2 (although they did nothing), pschyo rangers, lightspeed robot rangers, mystic force evil clones in Light source, the evil thunder rangers in Ninja storm - i could go on. True this could be the first evil green ranger since tommmy but it seems like triva which wikipedia is allergic to as anything trival is constantly getting deleted. 86.152.6.229 (talk) 19:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Allergic is about right, and WP:TRIVIA explains why, though it basically comes down to "this is an encyclopedia, not a site about random irrelevant facts".  At any rate, this conversation is too discussion forum-ish; that's something else Wikipedia is not. Arrowned (talk) 22:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Evil Green Ranger since Tommy 

message: I noticed on the opening paragraph a note that the recent Writers Strike would result in non union members writing the closing part of the season, since the show is produced and filmed in New Zealand wouldn't it make more sense the show was written there? If I'm mistaken I'm sorry but there should be some sort of citation. --82.18.50.106 (talk) 00:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that non-union members pick up in the normal writers' absence probably does need a citation, but the fact that the show is normally written by Americans probably does not, since the article already links to Bruce Kalish and Jackie Marchand. Arrowned (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writers Guild Strike 

message: By the time Jungle Fury has ended, i believe Jarrod should have his own article as his section looks big and seems like it will be big enough by series end. How would that work. Mythdon (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This doesn't belong here. It belongs on the talk page for the villains article. This is the page just for discussing changes to Power Rangers: Jungle Fury.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now taken the section at Talk:Villains in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury. Mythdon (talk) 01:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jarrod 

message: Ok, I UNDERSTAND the 4 Chinese sacred beasts stuff, HOWEVER, it DOES stand for the original 3, however, Camille was given the powers of the Phoenix, not the Vermilion Bird. She was made a general after the original 3 got their powers. For all we know, the Vermilion Bird spirit is taken by a 4th phantom beast general that is still trapped in the other crystal eyes. The "Vermilion Bird" and the Phoenix are 2 different Mythical Creatures. Why is it continuously changed back to Vermilion Bird when until proven, we know she has the PHOENIX spirit. Knowing the thought patterns of Camille that have developed over the episodes, it is QUITE clear she chose the spirit for it's powers of Rebirth. The ONLY thing they have in common is they are both associated with fire. 70.231.237.74 (talk) 13:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, That was me. ^ Myzou (talk) 13:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camille's Phoenix Spirit 

message: Suggest merging Zords in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury into Power_Rangers:_Jungle_Fury#Zords. Much the same content appears in both places, and the spinout article has no reliable sources. --John Nagle (talk) 16:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest merging [[Zords in Power Rangers: Jungle Fury]] into here. 

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