Talk:Diplomatic missions of the European Union

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thread_title:  Discussion at WP:FOR on formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" article 

message: The Council has separate diplomatic missions  - maybe we should list them in a new section here? Alinor (talk) 11:18, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Council of Ministers diplomatic missions 

message: Monaco, San Marino, Andorra, Liechtenstein and of course the island microstates in the Pacific are not clearly distinguished on the new map. Alinor (talk) 08:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  new map - microstates 

message: Hi JLogan, I notice you are new to the lists of diplomatic mission articles.  Welcome!
You may notice that the other 100+ articles follow a generic format, which this article generally follows.  I do note that amongst the useful contribution you have provided you have made some minor formatting changes which differ from what we normally use, but I am not going to engage you on this.
The lead para I believe could be improved.  "Represent foreign policy" is inaccurate - embassies represent governments, who follow a foreign policy more or less aligned to their interests.  They represent and report.  As for the EU its foreign policy is largely new and undeveloped; rather their work now is more concerned with trade and investment, and to a lesser extent, development.  You would call a mission a "delegation of the EU" (not for).  I would not write anything that would make a reader think an office (eg in a non-capital) is simply a consulate in all but name - these offices are generally not subject to the VCCR.  And there are offices within the legal jurisdiction of EU countries (such as Noumea in New Caledonia).  My draft text is intended to be sufficiently non-specific.
On stylistic matters, there is no obligation in Wikipedia to define what something is in the first sentence.  To quote the MOS If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence.  However, if the article title is merely descriptive— such as" Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers" — the title does not need to appear verbatim in the main text. Similarly, where an article title is of the type "List of ...", a clearer and more informative introduction to the list is better than verbatim repetition of the title.  (WP:MOSBEGIN)
Now I have no idea what the last para you have is seeking to serve.  This article is about diplomatic missions of the EU.  And what you have are details of foreign countries with missions to the EU.  This shouldn't belong here, and appears to content fork what is in List of diplomatic missions of the European Union.  
Standards and consistency play a strong role here, moreso than in other articles.   Like some kind of rationale behind protocol, if we treat all articles (and therefore all countries) equally then there is less likelihood for conflict when somebody reckons a country is treated differently.  In the nearly four years of these articles we have had the most tedious edit wars caused by editors with single minded agendas (such as Taiwan, Macedonia and Kosovo)
You may wish to familiarise yourself with the other articles.  Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.  And given your commitment to this article, may I invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations where these articles are discussed. 
All the best ! Kransky (talk) 12:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Reason I was going for a different style with this is because there is a lot more data hanging around this article than the others. I fyou want ot make sure it matches the others though, I'll ship off the detail to other relevant articles.- J.Logan`t: 14:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reason not to include the introductory paragraphs on how the missions came about, in fact most DMBC articles have some commentry (if details exist).  Kransky (talk) 10:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: JLogan - welcome! 

message: The following note was deleted along other content, but I think that regardless of the other-content fate this particular note's place is in this article - as these representations are a form of "EU missions", albeit "internal" ones:
:additionaly to the third-state delegations and offices the European Commission maintains representation in each of the member states.Representations of the European Commission Alinor (talk) 11:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it added in the head. Alinor (talk) 17:58, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  EU  representation offices in the member states 

message: Please assist With the change to :File:EU diplomatic missions.svg, the legend is broken. Please help me and fix it. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We had that before, it was changed in order to show the difference in types of delegations.- J.Logan`t: 08:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  We will probably replace the map to be consistent with other articles (including the new style in which cities are indicated).  In this map can only see countries coloured grey, green and blue (and it seems to be mixed up), but the legend has seven different categories.    Kransky (talk) 10:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not only the map was changed, but the information about EU offices in countries without delegations was entierly removed. Also, accreditations were removed, but I already know that you are opposed to their inclusion. IMHO such content should not be blindly removed - if someone is opposed accreditations inclusion - he should remove only them, without the EU offices information. And in any case I don't agree with both removals as described in previous comments here. Alinor (talk) 11:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

text:  If the opposition to accreditations (and the "other" map format) is so big I propose to split this info in another article Accreditations and Responsibilities of EU delegations. This content is sourced and the new article will not have to stick to the LODM templates. Alinor (talk) 11:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New map 

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message: The map and the list are outdated and should be updated. For example, delegations in Somalia, Mongolia and Cuba are missing. The official map is here. T8612 (talk) 23:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated info 

message: the file, :File:EU diplomatic missions.svg is having an error. A close look up, and you'll find that  is, too, high lighted in the European Union file. Being in a South American territory, it is quite oppositely striking that two nations which are over [quite] quarter an earth apart, are in EU group. I request you to rectify this mistake. Utkarsh555 07:37, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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