Talk:Whitney High School (Cerritos, California)

message: This article has been kept following this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

message: I am trying to be constructive by adding to this page but you guys are just erasing it without any reason except for the fact that you didn't make it. Stop deleting other peoples contributions to the page and accept it. And when I mean you guys I mean the two or three people controlling this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.100.210 (talk • contribs) 
:Sorry if you feel that way. The edits were actually reverted because they did not appear to constructive. Stuff about the senior prank being useless is personal opinion and doesn't help the article out. =) Jumping  cheese 07:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contributions

message: "Incidentally, neither the hardback cover photo nor the paperback cover photo are pictures of Whitney- which might have been the author's intention, as if to portray a school where studying is hard."
As a completely objective observer (an Australian who has stumbled across this page) I'd suggest this sentence be removed. It attempts to guess the authors intentions of misrepresenting the school (a POV), but displays a lack of knowledge as to the process of cover design. As a designer, my guess would be that the cover shot was a result of either a stock photo, or photo shoot -- a much easier way of securing a cover without the necessity of attaining the schools permission to shoot on location, especially considering the divisive material within. Whatever the actual motivation for the cover, this is more of a standard practice than a interesting anomoly. I'd remove it but the page is locked. 61.69.228.89 19:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: In order to get into Whitney High, students must pass a test.  Whitney is somewhat of a pre-college, in which they are screened for what percentage of ethnicities get into the school.  The school has made attempts to make their student population very well rounded.  It is also required for students to take several AP courses and maintain a very high grade point average.  Failure to keep a certain GPA results in being kicked out of the school. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes about Whitney High 

message: Being a student myself, I should know. Whitney students often apply to multiple colleges to various different schools to keep their options open (they want to make sure they get in to UCLA if not Yale or Harvard). When all (or most) of the schools accept them, they end up going to USC or UCLA because of the cost. The other schools get offeneded and are currently refusing to accept Whitney students.  --Typer 525 04:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitney kids often get rejected from universities. 

message: The inclusion of it doesn't seem very encyclopedic. Yid613 21:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alma Mater 

message: On an other note, we should add more pics of Whitney. I could get some from my digital camera. Typer525 Contact 17:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we can ask some yearbook photographers to provide some pictures for the wiki? UrbenLegend 21:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, I will get on that. Typer525 Contact 22:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Should we submit an app for the school? This is the best wiki page I seen on a high school (when not under attack by Karl) Typer525 Contact 20:08, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In its current state, it's probably not enough to be a featured article.  It need more pics and info.  But, it's getting there.  =)  Jumping cheese 20:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology and Stuyvesant High School put the Whitney page to shame...still lots of work.  =(  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 10:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look at WP:SCH#Featured article candidates to see the really good pages... *cringe Jumping cheese Cont@ct 07:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article? 

message: What is Whitney's school colors?!?  I believe it's Gold and Black, but I'm not sure...  Jumping cheese 22:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanxs!  I found a whole mess of info at http://whitneyhs.org/students/community.jsp?rn=4869.  =)  Jumping cheese 00:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not anymore, and even some of the teachers say it is white, gray, black, yellow (a combination of those colors) Typer525 Contact 00:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: School colors

message: Did the picture of the gym get deleted?!?  Jumping cheese Contact 07:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it...want to upload it again?Typer525 Talk 00:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, but why was it deleted in the first place?!?  =D  Jumping cheese Contact 06:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic of Gym 

message: I added the coodinates, but they don't really work when clicked.  Can a HTML savvy Wikipedia fix it?  Thanxs!  =D  Jumping cheese Contact 04:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: I think it would be interesting to add in a small blurb about tabish, considering it's one of the more colorful quirks this school has (Whether you like it or not).
Tabish words:
*jaj: to lie; to bulls___; a liar. 
:Tabish has kind of died down though (I haven't heard it since 06 graduated), so it might have been only a short lived fad.  It might be worth mentioning, but only a brief review at most. Jumping cheese  Cont@ct 05:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think Tabish will die out when the class of 2009 or 2008 graduate from Whitney. It is not really widely used enough (I rarely hear anyone speak it anymore) in Whitney to be added. Typer525 Talk 05:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember an article on Tabish published by Aspects (my sister was the Features editor for the section the article was published in).  However, as Typer mentioned, it has died down...so it was probably a temporary fad.  Anyways, I use "tfs" without even knowing it was tabish.  Is it tabish?!?  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 07:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

text: In all fairness the only Tabish I use is "jaj" and "et tu". And I stopped using them sometime around October...Besides, I don't think the 7-9th graders know Tabish, I know a few of them and they don't use it. Typer525 Talk 07:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: You speak tabish?!?  That frightens me...  =(  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 11:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabish 

message: Should the page mention something about the rubber track Cerritos is building next to Whitney?  I heard it'll be done before track season starts.  According to my coach, the track will be shared with the Cerritos community, much like the current gym is administered.  Jumping cheese  Cont@ct 04:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The track opened yesterday, but I'm not sure if Whitney has an agreement on how to share it with the city.  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 20:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Running Track? 

message: There videos of Whitney on YouTube (IFF, Western Day, Talent Show...).  Should the videos be linked to the appropriate sections in the page?  I know it's not the policy to link YouTube videos, but they do add significant content to the page.  I'll add a link for Western Day and see what happens.  Jumping cheese  Cont@ct 08:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube 

message: I just noticed that the page does not have such a section. The other schools in the district have this section (I checked Cerritos and Gahr High Schools) Typer525 Talk 18:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We ain't got any...well at least ones I know of.  Maybe later?  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 19:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah...its a small school. But since Whitney gathered the smartest people in the district...there got to be somebody....Typer525 Talk 03:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well...some Whitney kids do become successful (ie. doctors, lawyers), but not in ways that garner much publicity, such as becoming movie stars or all-star athletes. Jumping cheese Cont@ct 06:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (people). I could not find sources for the section, so I added the unsourced tag a few months ago. Jumping  cheese 11:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what you are trying to point out but what I am suggesting is in addition to that. I specifically want to have references that show they are from Whitney. And if they really exist LOL. Typer525 Talk 00:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I've never heard of any of the people on the list and google didn't bring anything up. Highly suspicious. The criterias for notability are uniform throughout wikipedia, but I'm open for more stringent rules if you like. =) Jumping  cheese 06:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Also one more thing, should I take out the IFF section? Or should I wait until next school year in case people plan to restart it again. Typer525 Talk 22:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: Should there be mention about the large number of Whitney graduates that attend US Service Academies?  Last year, I know one person that went to West Point (I'm sure there's more that went to other academies, but I can't remember who they are).  The year before that, one went to West Point, another to Naval, and another to Air Force. I heard from somewhere that Whitney has the highest ratio of graduates that attend US Service Academies.  Can someone get a source or verify this?  Jumping cheese Cont@ct 07:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Service Academies 

message: The attribution for the statement "In 2005, the Associated Press rated Whitney High the best high school in California,[4] based on its API score" (under "Media coverage") is older than stated.  If you go to the following page, which is also accessible from the link at the bottom of the page, you can see that it hasn't been updated since 2000. The link to the California Department of Education even gives a 404 error. --Kshieh 23:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. I know it was a fact a few years ago when I started to attend Whitney. I will try to get to the bottom of this, when I am not busy with school of course. Typer525 Talk 02:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best high school in California? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:SchoolOfDreams.jpg

message: Aspects has been shut down after the 2008-2009 school year. Should this be noted in the section about Whitney publications?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aw091 (talk • contribs) 10:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aspects 

message: It has been awhile since I have been an active editor but I have noticed this flurry of activity on my watchlist. As the original editor that created the section in question (boy I miss being a student) and having read Wikipedia:WPSCH/AG, I do agree that this page (not just the section in question) does not fully comply with the guidelines. However, there is no reason to completely delete the section and the content within. Several events in this section are traditions (International Day, Western Day, Faculty Follies) that are, to the best of my knowledge, unique to the school (and thus allowed under the extracurricular header). Now regarding the rest of the article, I am willing to work to bring the page up to spec before fading back to being a watcher, but only after this dispute is resolved without it turning into an edit/revert war. Typer525 Talk 03:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Yeah, I usually only start decrufting school articles when they get changes. Traditions may be unique to the school but that doesn't mean they are encyclopedic. Have they been covered in a source outside of the school? It isn't necessary to meet WP:RS or WP:GNG for part of a page, but it's a decent rule of thumb to determine if Funny Hat Day or a Mr. Whitney pageant or anything else is actually worthwhile of Wikipedia. tedder (talk) 23:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I am now an alum and therefore my knowledge is a few years out of date but I have never seen these traditions mentioned in a publication that was not school-affiliated (which is not that surprising for such a small school). I still have a few connections to the people who are still students and I can ask them regarding reliable outside sources. However, I see no reason that anything has changed in this regard. I also see that you have started bringing the rest of the article into compliance with Wikipedia:WPSCH/AG (most notably deleting the Alma mater), so for now I will prune the Other Events section leaving the only the traditions I mentioned behind. If this is acceptable to the other party (or a week has gone by), I will join you in updating the article as to avoid inciting an edit/revert war. Typer525 Talk 02:54, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other Events" 

message: Removing this, as NNDB is far from a reliable source, and I couldn't find anything about it in a reliable source.
Neil Bush received some criticism for a comment about calculus he made during a 2002  visit to the campus, in which he stated that students shouldn't be "forced to study something a kid thinks is terribly useless and obscure."  The comment was widely repeated as though Bush had said simply that "calculus was useless".(ref)(/ref)
tedder (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  neil bush comment 

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