Talk:Byron Brown

message: Do we know his age? --BDD 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We do now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  22:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth date

message: *"Was elected under a deal with the former mayor, where Masiello agreed not to run again in exchange for the party quashing any opposition to his 2000 re-election. 
Essentially Brown was appointed mayor, because he is black. Has never held a real job in his life, and chose to stay in Buffalo because he could use his color to advantage."
I took out the uncited, blistering allegations and opinions against Mayor Brown. Perhaps if someone can cite and objectify them, they might have a place under criticism.--Ccoolidge 22:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion/racism? 

message: Would like to know a little more information about early life, family, associations, friends, passions, etc.
24.24.232.218 (talk) 15:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Life/Biography? 

message: Year              		Democrat        	Votes 	Pct   		Republican   	Votes 	Pct   		Conservative    	Votes 	Pct   		Right to Life   	Votes	Pct
2000 NYSS 57th    		Byron Brown     	48,683	59.77%		Bob Woolworth	12,542	15.40%		Al Coppola      	18,938	23.25%		Anthony Murty   	1,285	1.58%
                  		Democratic      	47,011	      		Republican   	11,069	      		Conservative    	13,501	      		Right to Life   	1,285	
                  		Liberal         	1,672 	      		Independence 	1,473 	      		Green Party     	3,385 	      		                	     	
                  		                	      	      		             	      	      		Workers         	2,052 	      		                	     	
                  		                	      	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
2002 NYSS 60th    		Byron Brown     	43,260	65.14%		Al Coppola   	23,154	34.86%		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Democratic      	41,436	      		Republican   	20,236	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Liberal         	1,824 	      		Conservative 	2,918 	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		                	      	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
2004 NYSS 60th    		Byron Brown     	75,031	77.07%		Al Coppola   	22,328	22.93%		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Democratic      	65,609	      		Republican   	22,328	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Independence    	3,736 	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Conservative    	1,990 	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		Workers         	3,696 	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
                  		                	      	      		             	      	      		                	      	      		                	     	
2005 Buffalo Mayor		Byron Brown     	46,613	63.79%		Kevin Helfer 	19,853	27.17%		Judith S. Einach	3,525 	4.82% 		Charles J. Flynn	3,082	4.22%
                  		Democratic      	43,541	      		Republican   	17,680	      		Green Party     	3,525 	      		Independence    	3,082	
                  		Working Families	3,072 	      		Conservative 	2,173 	      		                	      	      		                	     	
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 20:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rough attempt

message: I was unable to find official 2005 Mayoral Election Results.  The text is an email that I received after making an online query following is somewhat WP:OR, but somewhat valid WP:PRIMARY:
Hello - Thank you for contacting the Buffalo and Erie County Library.
I searched the City of Buffalo webiste, the Erie County Board of Elections website, and the NY State Board of Elections website and was uable to find any official information on the 2005 Buffalo Mayoral Election results.
However, I contacted the Erie County Board of Elections and was told that the official election results can be mailed to you if you like. They were able to read the results to me over the phone, but were not able to electronically send them to me.
These are the results I was told over the phone:
Byron Brown:
Democratic Party - 43,541
Working Families - 3,072
Kevin Helfer:
Republican Party - 17,680
Conservative     -  2,173
Total for Byron Brown - 46,613
Total for Kevin Helfer - 19,853
Other Candidates:
Judith S. Einach - 3,525
Charles J. Flynn - 3,082
However, if you need a print copy of the official results, you can contact the Erie County Board of Elections Directly at:
134 West Eagle St.
Buffalo, NY 14202
MAIN (716) 858-8891
I did find an article in the Buffalo News Archives; "Brown defeats Helfer 64% - 27% - Vote signals mandate from city voters," an article from November 9th, 2005. This does list some general numbers from the election, although I'm not sure they could be considered official.
The article is at the bottom of this email.
I hope this information is useful for you.
Thank You - Buffalo & Erie County Public Library
LK/SJL — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 22:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said on Tony's talk page, if the Board of Elections will send this information to anybody who asks, I think it's verifiable.  Per WP:PRIMARY, no inferences or interpretations can be drawn from this data, but if we're just talking about including the information I'd say go for it (even if there's a little WP:IAR required).  Though it still blows my mind that this information hasn't been covered by the news media or publishe%d online by the Board of Electors. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 23:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to verify the 99% that he the article says he received in 2009. I know he won big but if truly did get 99% being a voting resident I think I would remember it. Even though I have Excel 2010 Starter and tried twice; I was unable to obtain the information that is supposedly on the website. Makes me wonder if the Board making it difficult to obtain the information is to help it to fail to comply with freedom of information which is widespread in Erie County.1archie99 (talk) 23:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed that the article states he ran unopposed in 2009 yet in the graphs the Republican column has Kearns in it as 158 votes. Also Kearns is stated as having received 158 writein votes. Seems that correction and/or an explanation is needed. Cannot understand why the Board of Electors is run by the two major parties; this makes it inherently corrupt against anyone not affiliated with either of the two major parties.1archie99 (talk) 23:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayoral Election Results 

message: The following text from former versions of the article has been contentious:
Brown attended Public School 134 in Hollis, where he went to class in a suit and tie on his first day of first grade. Brown continues to be what is referred to as a "suit-and-tie guy", for his habit of wearing suits.[url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:NewsBank:BNWB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=10D0995C89AD4B80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=0D0CB579A3BDA420]
The text of the original secondary source says : "The fresh-faced first-grader, outgoing, ambitious and well-mannered above all else, arrived at Public School 134 in Hollis, Queens, eager to make a statement.
He did it by showing up in a suit and tie, the only boy in his class to dress up for the first day of school.
To this day, Byron W. Brown is a suit-and-tie guy. Inside and outside. "[url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:NewsBank:BNWB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=10D0995C89AD4B80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=0D0CB579A3BDA420]
I have since notice more about Brown's fashion sense: "Mr. Brown, 42, a slight man who is always impeccably dressed"[url=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E00EEDD143EF93BA25753C1A9669C8B63]
It seems to me that his fashion sense is a bit more important than we noticed at first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 01:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fine with a mention of his fashion sense (though I'm still not convinced it's warranted), but I think it should be something less oblique than "he's known as a suit and tie guy". Sarcasticidealist (talk) 04:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What would be acceptable language?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  06:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suit and Tie 

message: Brown is a fairly large political figure in the state with regular mentions in The New York Times for his various dealings.  I find it hard to justify that there is no mention of these corruption allegations in the NYT, yet we insist on having a section in WP for them.  I personally would prefer that for any of Browns political affairs that the bar for notability be set at a mention in the NYT.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  00:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corruption allegations in the media 

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