Talk:Oh My Goddess!/Archive 2

message: Please note that the Oh My Goddess! name only applies to the North American releases of the original OAV series and the manga.  Neither the TV series nor the movie were released under that name.  It looks pretty bad when there is a picture for the movie and the title in the article does not match that in the picture.  The original text of the article also implied that the US release of the TV series shared the name Oh My Goddess!, which is not the case. -Js2756 01:59, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The original title was Kanji, I am aware of the naming contravercy and on IRC I prefer to use "Ah! My Goddess!" but "Oh My Goddess!" was the official desicion. It is sometimes Ah! sometimes Oh!, I am inclined to go with the name the manga author wants on this article ;) --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Hmm... The Amazon search points out "Oh My Goddess!" now you got me confused... I do not care what its called, I know is a good show. I would be happier if this article was titled Ah! My Goddess!, I am also aware this articles title was established with some sort of concensus but I was not onvolved back then. --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:16, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Titles are based off of North American releases, they should be labelled as they were released in North America.  The OAV series and manga are officially released under the name, "Oh My Goddess!" by Animeigo and Dark Horse Comics respectively.  The movie and television series are released under the name "Ah! My Goddess" by Geneon Entertainment and Media Blasters respectively.  If you go to Geneon's website, the movie is listed under the "Ah! My Goddess" name, not "Oh My Goddess!".  Whether or not the manga author wants it a certain way is irrelevant since there are official translated releases.  If we went by what the manga author wanted, the article wouldn't even be entitled "Oh My Goddess!", but would be "Aa! Megami Sama".  I have no problems with the title of the article (since the first North American release of any "Aa! Megami Sama" material was under the "Oh My Goddess!" name, but for correctness, each of the individual releases should be named with the title they are released under.  Labelling the movie and TV series as "Oh My Goddess!" is incorrect since they were never released under that name. - Js2756 00:21, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I encourage you to be bold, feel free to edit the article. --Cool CatTalk|@ 23:12, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: TV Series and movie name

message: There looks to be some errors in the staff and cast lists, but I thought I would first clarify them here in case I am wrong.  Firstly, it seems highly unlikely that Fujishima was not the original creator for the Mini-Goddess series, when it is based on omake from the tankoubon releases (I will change this now: please undo if I am wrong on this).  Secondly, there are a lot of characters listed as having been in the OVA that I have no recollection of (eg Toshiyuki Aoshima, Banpei, Sigel).  I have just noticed that Aoshima is listed twice: an obvious error, so I shall fix that now...  The staff for the OVAs, Mini-Goddess series and movie are also not listed, so I shall correct that too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elric of Grans (talk • contribs) 
:I dont know, the mini serries have little to do with the manga plot. While the character designs were somewhat based on the manga they are not identical to say the least. Please correct all inacuracies regarding the cast. My resources are limited so I could not complete it. Note that some staff have dual posts thats why they apear more than once, at least that was my intention. --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think banpei was indeed in the ova, while I do not know about tothers, note that I have not watched the OVA so I really do not know. --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Aoshima is most definitely in the OVA.  He is in episode 3.  I do not believe that Banpei or Sigel are in the OVA series though.  If they were, it would be at best a cameo role, and they aren't identified anyways.  While you're at it, remove Koshian and Hijiri from the OVA as well.  In the OVA, Keiichi and Belldandy find the temple abandoned (episode 1), they never meet the monk and the little girl doesn't appear.  - Js2756 00:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. --Cool CatTalk|@ 13:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

text: The Mini-Goddess is definitely originally in the manga.  In early volumes, there were yonkoma omake entitled (in the English version) The Adventures of Mini-Urd. In later volumes, Gan-chan was introduced, and later still Mini-Belldandy and Mini-Skuld join the cast.  In the original Mini-Urd version, there were a couple where she shrunk Keiichi down to size too.  There was even a single volume publication of the collected Mini-Goddess manga!  I think Banpei only appears in the OP of the OVAs (along with just about every other character), and am fairly sure the OVAs came out before Sigel even appeared in the manga. Elric of Grans 22:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats good to know. Hey can you get me the list of mini goddess episodes so I can add them to the grand list. Also can you complete the OVA reviews on the list page, I have never seen the ovas and hence cannot write a 2,3 line summary on the list page. --Cool CatTalk|@ 23:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe these are the official titles in the English release --- it is not available in my country, so I cannot confirm this.  The FWBT bit in three of them is short for something: I shall try find out what later tonight.  It has been close to a year since I last saw the OVAs, but I should still remember enough to write a short synopsis.  It has been a good three years since I saw the Mini-Goddess anime, so I would not be able to help there. Elric of Grans 23:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: FWBT = For Whom the Bell Tells Elric of Grans 21:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: When I created it, I made main characters purple, godds goddess and other heavenly items cyan, demons redish, and others blue. Same color sceme is visible on the nav. I dont know, reader can figure it out IMHO :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 23:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: That is true, but Cardcaptor Sakura is also 1/3 of the length, and has a lot less truly minor characters: even the 'minor' characters get significantly more air time than the likes of Chrono.  The CCS page also gives a lot more information: we only have a list.  In that way, the CCS character list is infinitely more relevant than what we have done.  As far as I am concerned, if there can be no more than a simple one-line description of who the character is (eg "Chrono is a system operator of Yggrasil in Ah! My Goddess The Movie."), then they are too minor to be worth mentioning. On the other hand, a 'minor' CCS character could easily get a lot more (eg "Sasaki Rika is one of Sakura's classmates, and is in fact engaged to their teacher --- this point is glossed over to some point in the anime, and explored to greater depth in the manga. She is looked up to by the other characters as a mature rolemodel they aspire to be like. She is skilled at..." etcetera, etcetera, etcetera). The 'minor' characters in CCS are equivilent of Megumi or Hasegawa in AMS, and these are characters I consider worth including. Elric of Grans 21:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Staff and Cast

message: List of Oh My Goddess episodes is now up for a FLC: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Oh My Goddess episodes. Feel free to comment --Cool CatTalk|@ 14:02, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: FLC

message: Just a minor point I wanted to get people's opintions on.  On the character pages, where it lists the characters 'species', it also lists their status (eg first class, unlimited).  Their rank and their species are two different things, in my opinion.  Should they be divided, or just left as-is? Elric of Grans 05:27, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be changed.  The way it is, it implies that goddesses continue to have the same license category.  This is not the case, as Urd passes the test to become a first class goddess (although she declines the license).  For the goddesses, there should be a license category, that lists: class (thusfar, all goddesses are first or second class), category (indicating line of work), and limitations (limited or unlimited). - Js2756 14:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Thats ok it can be changed and perhaps changes will happen magicaly in a few minutes. --Cool CatTalk|@ 22:36, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Hmm... Issue seems to be fixed on all pages. :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 22:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks: I was just about to jump into it myself, but saw a heap of edits in my Watchlist instead ;) Elric of Grans 23:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ^^' --Cool CatTalk|@ 23:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: How about "apperance age", they do appear like 21. Like Belldandy suggested one second in heaven can be several hundered years here. I can adjust the template once we reach a concensus on how this should be done. --Cool CatTalk|@ 13:10, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Pages

message: Who is the voice actor and does she have a last name? --Cool CatTalk|@ 23:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hijiri]]

message: Some staff names are in japaneese order (last name - first name) and should be made european (first name - last name). --Cool CatTalk|@ 19:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Staff

message: The article is a mess. I'd do it myself but I am not sure on all the details that come from the manga. --Cool CatTalk|@ 20:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I will take this page on next week, if no one gets to it before then. Elric of Grans 22:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lord of Terror]] needs significant attention 

message: Just a thought I had.  I could extract from the original page the image of Miyuki dressed as a Goddess (the origin of this series): does anyone else feel this would be a good addition to the article?  If so, I could add it next week. Er, well, once I work out how to upload images, I guess ;) Elric of Grans 22:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like that. :) Uploading images is easy, just click on the upload link on any page :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 19:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Please use this generic template for all character info-boxes. --Cool CatTalk|@ 19:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I expanded the infobox to work with episodes too. I have already done You're a Goddess? and Ah! Can the One Who Believes be Saved?, can someone else apply the template to others for me? :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 22:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the new box: looks a lot cleaner!  I will add it to the OVA episodes today. What about for the OVA/Mini-Goddess/Movie pages? Elric of Grans 22:59, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Er, slight issue: can we resize images with this new box?  If I saved the changes to the OVA pages as-is, the images would be too large. Elric of Grans 23:08, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... you upload the ova images, Ill take care of all of that.. I can aquire better quality images perhaps :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 11:50, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:Oh My Goddess Infobox-Generic]]

message: I designed the infobox to handle 6 images for:
#Top: Generaly from TV serries, I like showing the angel and the goddes on the top image, this should be the 'best' image representing the character of the character.
#Lower1:Should be Manga
#Lower2:Should be OVA
#Lower3:Should be Mini-Goddess
#Lower4:Movie
#Lower5:TV
However I need help to make it all happen. Obviously the "Mini goddess" is restricted to the three goddesses and ganchan so i do not think we will have too many images on other chars. --Cool CatTalk|@ 12:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Character infoboxes