Talk:Calvin and Hobbes/Archive 3

message: Hi guys, after reading Wikipedia's policy on external links, I have decided to request a link to my Calvin and Hobbes fan site. When I first added it I didn't know the webmasters were not supposed to add links to their own sites. You'll have to excuse my ignorance. :) I'm relatively new to adding to articles here. The address of my site is http://www.geocities.com/michaelgoonan0503/candh.html. Thanks for all of your time and patience with me.
Mjg0503 10:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problemo!  It's nice to see you have gotten an account.  BTW, if you use four tildes it will sign your edits and add a timestamp.  I took a look at your link, and I'm afraid that I would be reluctant to add the link.  I see you've added a bit of commentary to fit under the "fair use" guidelines, but I don't think there's enough commentary.  Generally, this part of the guidelines is meant for people writing some kind of scholarly work.  So you would need to write a lot more and go into some kind of analysis of the copyrighted work.  Caveat: I'm not a copyright expert, but I do have some experience on Wikipedia and what will fly and what won't with others.  Anyway, it seems you know quite a bit about Calvin and Hobbes and can make some fine contributions to this article.  So I wouldn't focus too much on whether your link makes it in or not.  --C S (Talk) 21:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, thanks. I've acctually had this account for a while, I was just too lazy to log in :b. This article is already so good I'm not sure what I can add to it, but I'll go through and see if there's anything I can add. I like to show off my useless knowledge to random people. I wasn't aware that your requirements were so stringent for linking, I'll be more careful in the future, and when I get time I'll go through and add more commentary to make sure my site is within fair use. I think I'm probably pretty safe since I don't have an extensive collection, but I understand how wikipedia feels about it. I'm not all that worried about my link though, the only reason I put it here was to get some publicity for my site. It's fairly unknown right now, if you see what I mean. But hey, I'm not going to whine about it (at least, if I haven't already. lol.) Congratulations to all of you who have contributed to this article. You've done a great job! 
Mjg0503 00:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Link Suggestion

message: When, exactly, did the strip suggest that Calvin's mom wears a g-string? [Unsigned comment by Lord Atreyu 23:55, 25 October, 2005 (UTC)]
Many. Once, when they go camping, Calvin's Dad opens a bag and goes though the items, and one is thongs. I'm pretty sure there are more. The Republican 16:15, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Thongs" is also a term for sandals (flip-flops), which I think is by far the more likely connotation in the context of a camping trip.  (The strip in question is in the Yukon Ho! collection, if anyone wants to read it for themselves.)  I don't know where The Republican gets the idea that g-strings are mentioned at all, let alone "many" times. Alanyst 20:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with your interpretation of that strip, and since it's the only one I can recall even using the word "thong" (my memory is pretty darn good for comic strips, though not for people), I zapped the sentence.  Anville 13:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Pardon the question, but what exactly is a g-string? I've never heard the word before now. Scorpionman 02:14, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: g-string

message: I've started a References to Calvin and Hobbes page, where we can compile stuff like the "Hobbes is Tyler Durden" Metaphilm article, allusions in other comic strips, et cetera.  Hopefully this will help keep the cruft level down.  Anville 14:37, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and allusions 

message: OK.  I'd like to hear a discussion on this.  First, am I correct in saying that "Safari Al" appears once, exactly once, namely on page 76 of The Essential Calvin and Hobbes?  Second, given that, and given that the FARC discussed above resulted in a consensus against single-strip gags, does Safari Al really need to be in the "Alter Egos" list?
I put the article Safari Al — yes, an anon took the trouble to make one — up for deletion.  The consensus forming there is to merge it back here; however, what is there really to merge?  The fact that Calvin owns a safari hat?  Anville 11:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Safari Al 

message: I'm tired of all these insignificant comic stubs articles. Are Calvin's alter egos really that important to have their own articles?--FelineFanatic13 16:49, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic Stubs 

message: Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tracer Bullet, the text from the history at Tracer Bullet should be merged here.  Said text can be found here. I'll leave this task to somebody familiar with the subject. — FREAK OF NURxTURE ([ TALK]) 20:41, Dec. 27, 2005
::Well, I reworked the TB description to include all the information from the old page, so the content is pretty much merged. Hope that's the right way to do this. -- Simpatico 03:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content to be merged here 

message: Didn't this character only appear in one strip? And did he even have any lines? He surely isn't a "character" in terms of having a personality. Is he really notable? -- Simpatico 08:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've said before upon many occasions, one can easily anticipate my answer:  no. More precisely, he appears in two strips (printed on successive days) and has a few lines of dialogue.  This is far from enough to warrant his inclusion here.  Anville 19:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pete" the Barber? 

message: It has been suggested that Weirdoes from another planet be merged into this article. The article has been tagged since 13 November 2005. I'm just bringing this to your attention, I don't really have an opinion either way. Please post any comments on the proposal here. - N (talk) 17:04, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We could condense all the useful information from that article into a single sentence in this one.  That single sentence may already exist; I need to reread this article to make sure we wouldn't be needlessly duplicating content.  Anville 20:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Plus, "Weirdos" is spelled wrong, which is really bothersome to both C&H fans and spelling fans. -- Simpatico 06:40, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: It seems a bit random to have an article about 1 loose book. Considering the article is actually just a stub, I'm for the merger as well. (It seems the article has been renamed (moved) to Weirdos From Another Planet! by now. Retodon8 03:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Jumping on the 'merge it' bandwagon. Technogeek 05:57, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've done the merge/redirect. I'll leave you guys to do what you want with the text.. - N (talk) 01:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from [[Weirdoes from another planet]] 

message: *Why this can't be merged simple: Spiff's importance exceeds that of every charachter exept calvin and hobbes. [Unsigned comment by . I am assuming this is a response to the merge tag on the Spaceman Spiff article, so I have formatted it appropriately - N (talk) 18:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll give it until the end of the week and if there are no objections, I'll remove this tag.. - N (talk) 01:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As per the various discussions going on in different parts of this page, I decided to "be bold" and move Spaceman Spiff's biography into the secondary characters page.  If that article grows too big, we could split it up again, but I think the only things which could make it grow that much are original research and cruft anyway.  Anville 07:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. —simpatico hi 05:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merge from [[Spaceman Spiff]]

message: I searched for C&H, the sugar company, and I was redirected here.  I think this redirect instead should be a disambiguation page, but I don't know where to find the C&H article...  If I find it myself, I'll make the disambiguation myself. - Gilgamesh 22:10, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: C&H disambiguation

message: Another argument for Hobbes' reality is the "cookie incident", when he is taken by a dog and Calvin finds him at one of Susie's tea parties. Someone ate all the cookies, but it cannot be Calvin.
I can't at all agree with this being an example of Hobbes' affecting things beyond Calvin's capabilities.
Suzie's shout about where the cookies have all gone immediately follows her musing to Mr. Bun that, for once, Calvin was a gentleman. Obviously the cookies being gone is evidence that -- even busy being grateful for her having found Hobbes -- Calvin's never one to miss an opportunity to commit mischief against Suzie, or to pass up cookies for that matter.
I dunno. Just seems pretty obvious that that's the joke, and it's not one of the mysterious Hobbes' Reality bits.
JTannus 09:52, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "cookie incident" 

message: From the article:
The name is an acronym that stands for Get Rid Of Slimy girlS (which Calvin admits is a bit redundant, "but otherwise it doesn't spell anything").
How is that redundant? I don't think the word is being used properly here. Is this something Calvin himself said? Am I just not understanding it? "Redundant" was changed to "contrived" a while back, which makes more sense, but now it's back to "redundant." Please explain? -- simpatico hi 03:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I seem to recall that Calvin himself used the word "redundant" in describing it... I suspect he meant that "slimy girls" is redundant, rather than commenting on the contrived formation of his acronym. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 08:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure of it. That's what he said.  "Redundant" .--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 09:02, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, after I posted this, ironically I came across the actual stip where he says it's redundant (on page 111 of Book 2 of the Complete C&H). And he was refering to "slimy girls" not the acronym. I'll clarify that in the article. — simpatico hi 09:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  G.R.O.S.S. "redundant"? 

message: Mjg0503, do you have citation information for that animation quote you added (author, volume number, etc)? We could add that to the references. Nevermind, I see it's already in the references - will cite in text. Also, I trimmed down the quote you added so it wasn't so long and rewrote a little of it so it would be more streamlined. I took out the links you added because they didn't add anything substantial—see Wikipedia:External links. Nothing personal... :) — simpatico hi 07:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for formatting that for me. I'm new to this :). I added back a small portion of Bill's quote, just because I thought it was important. I didn't add the whole thing back though. Mjg0503 17:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good. :) — simpatico hi 19:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mjg0503 - ''Comics Journal'' quote 

message: There's really not much on the Duplicator page that isn't in the main C&H article already. Because Duplicators are exclusive to the C&H universe (unlike the Transmogrifier), it doesn't really need it's own page. Thoughts? — simpatico hi 18:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It really should be moved back here. It is essentially a stub, and it's all about Calvin and Hobbes basically.
Mjg0503 22:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging [[Duplicator]] into [[Calvin and Hobbes#Cardboard Boxes|Section: Cardboard Boxes]]