Talk:Simlish

message: Because dispute surrounds the spelling of a lot of Simlish words, would it not make sense to replace what we have here at present with the phonetic equivalents?
--172.216.88.203 19:15, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that phonetic symbols are a bit tricky to read, and even harder to type. (Notice they're not included in the box below the editor; that would be nice.) On the other hand, it would simplify translation into other languages. And this page should be translated, as it's about a language built to cross cultural barriers. 38.116.192.13 15:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: A number of phrases here have been deleted since my last edit. Why? If they haven't been confirmed, we could make a table with columns: Simlish phrase, English translation, degree of certainty (confirmed by Maxis, confirmed by a voice actor, translation reached independently by several, translation generally agreed upon, translation conjectured by contributors). Seahen 16:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather than trying to agree on English translations, perhaps put the general game situation in which that expression can be heard? --172.214.106.100 16:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Wouldn't that be original research? --LodeRunner 02:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless its confirmed in a verifiable source, yes it would be a violation of WP:OR.--Crossmr 16:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When reading this I remembered all the TV Show descriptions I have seen, any of them that are copied forma different location are copy right problems. So they are all written as original works. Now here is where it gets into WP:OR. TV show outlines use Primary Sources the TV Show it’s self. Any  opinions have to come form Secondary Sources like the DVD commentary. Using this idea saying that when a Sim goes to leave they say “dag-dag” not original research it is Primary Sources used. Now finding a book that says “dag-dag means good bye in Simlish” would be a Secondary Source. So now that I have written this, this kind of stuff must seem obvious to all others, I just had to contribute something.12.145.73.51 17:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phrases have been deleted 

message: Till the factual dispute have ended Simlish will be added to the Gibberish section. If you do disagree please post here or at my talk page. Sitenl 18:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibberish for now 

message: The section on confirmed simlish words needs a reference to where Maxis has confirmed them. Its nice that they have, and that its stated in the paragraph but it needs to be set up as a reference.--Crossmr 16:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite 

message: The writing on police car doors reads: Yulhullie mud lapllahaduhil, roughly meaning "To Serve and Protect".
This can can be nearly traslated from Tlaxan, an aceint langauge of Mexico. 'Yulhulliexa' means to guard and 'lapllahaduhil' means to do a favour.
I hope this helps you but i alroady added it to article
MANY THANKS
Gerrado Gueto  23/6/06 03:08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.24.9 (talk • contribs) 17:09, August 23, 2006 
:unless you can find a cite it falls under WP:OR. Specifically a translation for the words, but it seems from what you wrote, its not direct as at least one of the words isn't spelled the same.--Crossmr 00:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tlaxan 

message: This article is going to be cleaned up over the next few days. Unsourced information and information which appears to be original research will be removed until such a time that sources are provided. I've removed a bit already, but any content currently tagged will be removed or rewritten. As well the list of phrases officially published by Maxis needs some sources. I've looked on the website but can't actually find these. They will also be removed if sources can't be provided for them.--Crossmr 21:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In another day it will have been 2 weeks. If no sources are forthcoming I'll be removing all unsourced material from the article.--Crossmr 05:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: ok, i play the sims and i think can easily say that 'abaduchia' or something along those lines, that goes a-baa-doo-chi-ah, is the word for goodbye as the sims always say this as they leave the house. and also when sims talk in a mirror, they say 'ye ye ye, ye gota warren, ye gota warrren'. i have no idea what this means though, though it occured while practising speech in a mirror.Daniel625 01:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately unless you have a reliable source, it can't be placed in the article, see WP:OR, WP:V and WP:RS.--Crossmr 03:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Please see wikipedia's policy on no original research. WP:OR. Interesting, but unfortunately unusable in the article.--Crossmr 16:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't submit it to the article precisely because it is original research.  Nevertheless, I have to wonder where the line is drawn.  This isn't research, per se-- it is a fact (and might I say, an astounding coincidence) that "bye bye" can be transformed into "dag dag" by a simple ROT2 cipher.  If we limit ourselves to peer-reviewed sources and such, why should an article on Simlish even exist?  No one out there is doing extensive "research" on Simlish, so I contend that the entire content of this article comes simply from stuff that people have noticed.  If I were to make my own section that extensively tried to decipher Simlish and came to its own conclusions, yeah, that's research.  But I don't see the harm in pointing out that a common phrase in Simlish and another common phrase in English have a simple connection.--134.173.200.107 06:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because obvious fact can be presented as content here. There isn't anything to say that bye bye turning into dag dag isn't just a coincidence. You took a theory, ran a test and drew a conclusion. That goes beyond saying "The new Hyundai Elantra is red". Plus there are some reliable sources on the topic of simlish. --Crossmr 13:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking about OR (which honestly, is a really silly and annoying rule in some cases), isn't the intro OR? Stating that Simlish has open vowels, it's spoken with the front part of the mouth and vowels this and that are more common, is hard to source Pictureuploader 09:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OR isn't a silly rule. It prevents wikipedia from being over run with garbage in all articles as everyone edits in rumours, lies, and other such pieces of information to suit themselves. As far as OR in the intro goes, it is unlikely that that will be sourced unless does another article on the the language which includes that information.  The language may sound different to different people.--Crossmr 16:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course WP:OR has its justified reasons, but as every rule, it has some gaps which bring issues in Wikipedia's main rule: give information. I don't disagree with its existence, I just think it is too strict in SOME cases. Anyway, if the introductory paragraphs can't be sourced, doesn't that make them OR or POV? A wikipedia rule says that we can't justify one article's irregularities based on other articles. Pictureuploader 20:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia has a very clearly stated threshold of inclusion to be verifiability, not truth. While there may be truthful statements out there which are not on wikipedia, we only include the ones which can be proven reliably. Wikipedia is not a primary source and its goal is not simply to just give information. There is lots of information which is not appropriate to wikipedia. I removed the part of the introduction that was lacking sourcing, as its unlikely that anyone will source that at this point. If Simlish was going to have a more detailed article written about it, it would have probably happened by now.--Crossmr 02:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  abaduchia 

message: Article says English has more of a Latin sound to it than Simlish -- shouldn't it state the exact opposite? 213.235.241.220 09:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that is what it means, its just not worded properly. I'll see if I can clean up the way thats written.--Crossmr 17:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin 

message: Do the characters of Spore speak Simlish? /Yvwv (talk) 10:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spore

message: This article really needs to be updated to reflect what's in The Sims 3. 66.29.169.1 (talk) 22:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sims 3 

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thread_title:  Additional verifiable sources for usage 

message: http://www.insimenator.org/showthread.php?t=78312
A Sim fan who goes by the name of "SiMale" came up with an alphabet for Simlish, originally for the Sims 1, which is in wide use in custom content for the Sims.  It's a font, partly based on Greek, astrological, and alchemical symbols, which can be isntalled on the user's computer.  Sims fans incorporate it into signs, packaging, and other items made or modified for the Sims.
http://www.modthesims.info/archive/index.php/t-312270.html
The font has been modified in appearance to use where a "handwritten" look is advisable.
Examples of Simlish font in use:
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=307946
http://www.spring4sims.com/2008/09/eight-simlish-fairy-tale-posters-for-kids-by-simgaroop-mts2/
http://sumomo.modthesims.info/download.php?t=303289
http://linna.modthesims.info/download.php?t=316590
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=342725
A connection drawn between spoken Simlish and written Simlish:
http://learn-simlish.piczo.com/?g=38382808&vsrc=search_google&cr=5
74.220.76.151 (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this article include documentation of fanmade Simlish? 

message: I've noticed that in the Sims 2, toddlers occasionally yell something that sounds like "Daddy!" when upset and in the crib. Also, when tickling, Sims tend to say something like "Ticky ticky ticky!", which could be noted.
Edit: I've also seen that very outgoing Sims seem to say "Shalom" when they see another sim in the Sims 2 (Yes, I only play the Sims 2 normally..)
EricPeterboy (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Existence of English-like speech in some games. 

message: In GBA Sims (and, possibly, other console "adventures" in Sims series), some characters may, instead of "goodbye", say "sure, sure" but with non-english "r" sound.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yura87 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GBA Sims voice samples 

message: All of the citations are dead ends now. They no longer work for anything as citations, and they are now dead links. Also, some look like they weren't official/proper to begin with by the names...--174.19.244.195 (talk) 22:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead End Links 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Marc Gimbel is a roommate of my friend. They added his name as a joke several years ago, and it's apparently stuck. Marc works at the U.S. State Dept. here in San Francisco and was never employed by Maxis and has no connection to this game. What's more, all external references to his involvement originated after this article, so this misinformation has now been propagating throughout the internet for years, which will make it more difficult for future redditors to fix this article.
We should delete his name from this article. It's ridiculous that this bad edit has stuck around for so long without any external verification.
Stephen.andrew.lynch (talk) 06:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Marc Gimbel not involved in creating Simlish, no one named Marc Gimbel worked at Maxis

message: At the time of writing the page states "while English permits three consonants in a row, such as in the word "strong", Simlish words may use up to two consonants sequentially". Quoting from a different source, the page later says the word "shpansa" means "cheers". As that word has three consonants in a row, one of the sources of information is incorrect. DariusWiles (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That word has three letters in a row, not three consonants. Sh is a single consonant, written with a digraph 68.230.163.52 (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency in the maximum number of consonants in a row