Talk:Jake Gyllenhaal/Archive 1

message: : It strikes me that people will continue to put up Toothy Tile and gay rumors about Jake until TT is revealed as someone else, or Jake comes out.  I have readded the TT stuff, though stripped it a bit, since someone took it off without explanation. (bizarre given they added stuff about him dating Austen Nichols). But I think what might be the easiest thing to do is produce a special article putting for and against the case for Jake's sexuality, as that is really the contention on this page. Personally, I would like an objective view of both sides, as it takes hours going through all the gossip sites...
:Dev920 17:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried to compromise on this. Only the barest information is now up though TT has been almost totally confirmed as Jake, could the reverters please at least give their reasoning as to why they keep removing it?Dev920 22:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, 89.48.8.103? Why did you remove it? Again? Dev920 20:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexuality

message: Bold textMy Favorite actor, can't wait for Brokback Mountain.
Me either! It looks like it could be really good. Bremen 18:09, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc.

message: We need to sort this out!  This article says "mother's brother" but the Eric Foner article says "mother's first husband."  Somebody fix!  I don't have time to Google right now.  Moncrief 00:43, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Eric Foner his uncle or mother's first wife??

message: "He asked many questions, about which he expressed embarrassment during an interview on Tonight Show with Jay Leno."
Amo 11:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: meaning?

message: I've only ever heard of his dog being called "atticus", does it really share it's full name with Atticus Finch? Source? What about the other one?
Amo 11:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The alsatian he rescued is called Atticus. His other dog is a Puggle called Boo radley. Naturally, it's named after the other main character. Dev920 01:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  He stated the dogs' full names (Atticus Finch and Boo Radley) when asked by Ellen Degeneres in his interview with her in November 2005 though he tends to simply call them Atticus and Boo. TehQ 18:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Atticus

message: I've semi-protected article, due to an email about the barrage of editing about Gyllenhaal and Austin Nichols. Discuss it out here, before any content goes into the article. Remember, we are not the Enquirer.  --  Zanimum 21:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think an unreferenced tag on the private life section would do us all some good. When people edit articles that aren't historical or about microbes, people tend to think that the same standards don't apply. Due to disputes like this, the standards should apply all the more. We should reference where we get things. Even non-controvertial stuff is often hear-say or made up but plausible. Lets all learn from this. Neutral point of view doesn't mean we exclude points of view, it means that we mention them and cite them appropriatley, which keeps the article itself NPOV. We are not the enquirer in that we must cite what notable sources our demonstrably notable rumors come from. Most of what people put up here has something to it that is arguably notable, unless there's some wiki guideline on the notability of tabloid rumors that I'm missing. In any case, yes, the way that these have been put up doesn't quite hash with policy. See the links in this tag:  66.41.66.213 03:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protect 

message: I sent an abuse mail to Wikipedia, complaining about two specific users. Both users should be blocked from Wikipedia since they are constantly editing actual facts from different articles including Austin Nichols, Sophia Bush and Jake Gyllenhaal. I'm a bit fed up with these childish fan war games since this is an encyclopedia and not your private Jake Gyllenhaal fan site message board. Please, take your relationship rumors and fanatic link removal there and leave those people alone who want to add CONFIRMED facts. Don't forget this is not a playground. People are using these sites for their research.
To those who keep adding unfounded speculation to this and Austin Nichol's page: STOP. IF you want to guard a celebrity's homosexuality, guard one who is openly gay, not one you wish to be gay. 24.137.111.194 09:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're completely right. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a gossip shop. It was born to be looked up as a sound means of knowledge and information; it should not turn into a blog that gathers any news up without verifying it. Such an irresponsible attitude not only contravenes the most elementary rules of Wikipedia, but it's also unrespectful to people who works seriously and passionately every day - I mean both Jake Gyllenhaal and Austin Nichols as actors, and us as Wiki contributors. Ok, I've had my say... Have a nice day! --§Ariel 15:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  User constantly editing this page 

message: The people adding rumors have generally been not conforming to wikipedia standards BUT! 
I think the talk page should address this question: Is stuff from the Inquirer notable? Arguably so. Now, it's somewhat unkind and untasteful to reproduce some of the garbage that they print. But would someone be out of place in saying "Celebrity gossip rags like the inquirer rumor actor X secretly wants to kill pop star Y" with a link or a citation to the article? Perhaps not. While it isn't a reliable or trustworthy source, it is arguably a notable primary document. Wikipedia encourages the use of primary documents. But of course, we could avoid the question entirely by collectively not being sleazy and not talking about what the inquirer talks about. But people who feel the exclusion of sleaze violates neutral point of view? I say, if that's how you feel, post and cite something and we'll have a talk about it. 66.41.66.213 03:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Okay seriously 

message: Jamie Lee Curtis is NOT his godmother,in the news article you can link to it also states that Paul Newman gave Jake his first driving lesson Jake has since said this is not true so the article linked to below is not factual.
YES, she is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4587788.stm
I've also added stuff about Kirsten Dunst. They did breakup in 2004 and were on-off again for a while, but he broke up with her for good in 2005. (Jake's response to a question about her in the Ellen interview would seem to confirm this). Whether Jake is now either single or with Austen Nichols is questionable, but he is definitely NOT with Dunst.
Dev920 08:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You think the BBC is not a credible news source? Dev920 16:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you see that taxi driver they pulled in to interview about the Apple law suit?  Of course they can make mistakes... heh... Misterniceguy7 01:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Information

message: While there obviously needs to be some website links, there is no need to deluge an encyclopedic entry with every page. I think the current list suffices. And I also think that the speculation as to if the blogs are read is pointless and driven by gossip. Deleting. 24.137.111.194 03:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep the websites down 

message: Jake did not say "all marines did during the war was masturbate" (or something along those lines), it was Swofford in Jarhead. A few right wing "news" sources were trying to cause bother and because of this I dont think links to these sites are credible, so I deleted sections of the article, twice so far, which are clearly false. Stevenscollege 18 March 2006
There are more than one source that have him saying it.  Yes Fox News aired the story, right wing or not, other sources have said it.  Bottom line is there are no sources that discredit his quote, so why take it off? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.167.255.231 (talk • contribs) 5:56, 21 May 2006.
You`ll notice all reports of this quote do not give us any context, was it a magazine interview? was it a television interview? Who was the reporter that took the quote? was he promoting Jarhead?. The answer of course is simple the quote was plucked directly from Jarhead, he was reading a script!!!!.Stevenscollege 21 March 2006
Yea... that is pretty obviously just flawed reporting by fox and the "other sources" thank you, Stevenscollege for keeping just facts on this wiki. Misterniceguy7 16:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gulf war quote

message: I've noticed we have a lots of external link references in the article.
Would these be betetr off as a reference section, do you think? Dev920 20:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do that in a bit - I'm on a laptop at the moment, trying to do stuff for spoken wikipedia, and it's taking up more time than I thought. Dev920 20:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: For what it's worth, I think it's a good idea, too. AdamBiswanger1 20:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thankyou Adam. All done now, and doesn't it look much more professional now. Dev920 22:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: You're welcome. Thank you for being around to keep a calm eye on things. Dev920 23:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Excessive External references

message: I think the original paragraph should be put back in with these links as I say above:
"Recently, Jake has encountered public speculation about his personal relationship with friend Austin Nichols who he met while filming The Day After Tomorrow."
and also the next paragraph was a problem but the troll didnt manage to delete it before the page was protected
Jake has been linked to several famous women, including Natalie Portman and Olympic medalist Gretchen Bleiler
so thats my .02, put them back.
Stevenscollege 11:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would put "good", "best" or some sort of other adjective (because that why we're adding him rather than Adam Levine as Jake's friend - because he's closer) before the friend, but other than that I am absolutely supportive, because there just isn't any other links we can put in. I'll request unprotection. Me and stevenscollege are in consensus, does anyone else object? Dev920 21:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I think everyone knows that Natalie and Gretchen never so much as saw Jake's house(or indeed in Gretchen's case, saw Jake himself!), let alone dated him. Note the stories that they went straight back to their boyfriends after the initial media flurry. But the paragraph suggested by stevenscollege only says he was linked to them, which he was, and there are links to back it up Dev920 07:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What now

message: I see theres a link to Category:Buddhists at the bottom of the page, is this correct? It should be mentioned in the article if true. Is he?
Stevenscollege 22:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddhists 

message: This statement is not exactly viewpoint neutral in its discussion of "Brokeback Mountain".  Furthermore, I can name a number of films that are more "honored" (whatever that means): Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Godfather II, Godfather I, Shindler's List.  Is Brokeback Mountain even the most honored "homosexual-themed" film in cinematic history?  What about "To Wong Foo. . .", "Boys Don't Cry", or "Top Gun"?  Just because the author was able to come up with a citation for this assertion doesn't mean its appropriate.
:Yep, that statement is too much of a boast. I love BBM, but I hardly think it is the most honored film in history. --68.171.155.81 21:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think whoever put that there was because of the sheer number of awards BBM won, starting from its premiere onwards, not the quality of the awards. Has a film won more awards than BBM? Dev920 21:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Most honored film in cinematic history???

message: Kinda weird that I spent all last week reverting a user who wanted to remove any mention of Austin, and now I'm have to deal with someone who keeps adding bad info to it! Dev920 19:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Um, as a fan of Jake Gyllenhaal, I have researched on him. And Wikipedia has not given the full information of him.
People are saying he is GAY with Austin Nichols, but here's the truth:Gay fans of Jake Gyllenhaal are determined to claim the "Brokeback Mountain" star as their own. Blogosphere gossips have been claiming that Gyllenhaal was ready to admit he was having trouble quitting actor Austin Nichols, whom he has known since high school. But sorry, guys, there won't be any coming-out party. Even though Jake is now split with Kirsten Dunst and Nichols broke off his engagement to Claire Oswalt, Gyllenhaal's rep says he and Nichols are just friends. … 
Wiki once said before someone edited it: Jake Gyllenhaal is recently dating fellow actor Austin Nichols. Then it is what is now, but the full information is this. 
Just to make it clear from that guy's mouth.
Source from:http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/407893p-345283c.html
: The vandalism that you are referring to has been removed and the user banned for 24 hours. Dev920 21:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 'so-called'relationship with Austin Nichols. 

message: The current picture of Jake was originally added by someone who has since been banned for constantly added copyrighted photos to Wikipedia. The reason for adding it in the image's source information is because it came from IHJ, Jake's largest fansite - is this enough? Futhermore, is it appropriate to have Jake in that kind of pose on Wikipedia? Is there anywhere we can source a better image? Dev920 21:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Iv noticed people putting info for films Jake may do in the future in the article, Id rather we didnt because 1-their just rumours 2- they will have to be deleted when he doesnt make them 3- any of us can just put down any thing we hear and the article will be a mess.--Stevenscollege 18:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have to say, I agree with this. Maybe we should let the stuff up go for now but remove anything else? Dev920 19:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding info for films 

message: Presumably that girl he kissed in ninth grade... Dev920 22:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  nonfamous women.