Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive-Nov2007

message: There is some discussion at Talk:2007 Trinity vs. Millsaps football game about what is a more appropriate "title" to use in the infobox for this game.  We could use some outside opinions to help reach a conclusion.  Thanks, Johntex\talk 18:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007 Trinity vs. Millsaps football game 

message: Sorry, if this is a dumb question - I'm really new.  What's with the red links at the top of this page, about the portal?  Can anyone make those?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GTBuzzer (talk • contribs) 19:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its just a reminder that the selected image/article pages haven't been written for the portals for december. That message will go away when those pages are created. The image and article for December have already been picked, but nobody has created the entry yet. I think that warning should only come up during the last week or two of the month, but oh well.↔NMajdan•talk 15:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal links 

message: There is a policy discussion that could affect articles created by this project.  Please see this discussion about whether policy should forbid team logos to be placed on articles pertaining to individual seasons.  You are invited to contribute to the discussion, if you wish. Best, Johntex\talk 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Policy Discussion on use of logos 

message: With bowl season approaching, I just wanted to remind everybody on the templates we have.  should be used on the general bowl game article (such as Poinsettia Bowl or Rose Bowl (game)).  should be used on the specific yearly game article (such as 2007 Poinsettia Bowl). At least, that is my general understanding of how these were meant to be used when they were created. Also, if anybody has some free time,  needs documentation created for it.↔NMajdan•talk 15:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should this template also be used for other "named" games that are not offical bowls?  Example Coca-Cola Classic (college football) ?? --Paul McDonald 15:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it could be, yes. Also, I added documentation for  and made some parameters optional. That way, the template doesn't look blank if added before the game is played. Before, all fields were shown so for the 2007 bowl game articles, the anthem, announcers, halftime show, odds, etc were all there but blank. I also removed some automatically added brackets which will require manual fixing on the articles themselves. I removed brackets from the stadium name since some stadiums need disambigs such as Rose Bowl (stadium).↔NMajdan•talk 17:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reminder on infobox use for bowl games 

message: That ONLY the TOP 25 ranked teams should be included on Team pages.  Dawg1279 06:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that's a good move.  Top 25 teams change from week to week and year to year, so we would potentially be adding and then deleting artilces every week.  That's a lot of maintenence!--Paul McDonald 15:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure this proposed policy is in regards to the earlier Top 25 Ranking discussion.  I agree that only those teams in the Top 25 should be ranked because the polls themselves do not consider other teams receiving votes to be ranked #26, #27, etc. Gopherbone 15:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text: If Gopherbone is right, then I agree. Though we did discuss this somewhere before and I don't think it really needs to be stated so explicitly, just with new folks every year, we get people that don't understand how the polls really work so we have to explain to them each time. Perhaps a "FAQ" about WP:CFB where things like this would be a good thing to have on it? (National Championships would be another.) MECU≈talk 18:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree with proposal that there should be a CFB guideline re rankings on team pages.  Perhaps BCS ranking would be better than the USA ranking on the team schedule, and if USA rank is used, a "V" should be used in place of a ranking for teams outside of the Top 25 yet still received votes. B 16:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "RV" is traditionally used in other places (means "Received Votes"). I'm against using the BCS because it isn't available for the entire season. We selected the Coaches because it's part of the BCS calculation, traditional and covers the entire season. MECU≈talk 19:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree re: "RV".  However, the current template for game schedule/results automatically places a "#" symbol when a value is given for rank so that the value "RV" would look like "#RV" in the article.  The template will need to be edited to allow for "RV" and a footnote to explain "RV" at the bottom of the template. B (talk) 22:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal of Policy regarding Top 25 Rankings on team pages 

message: Comments requested here.↔NMajdan•talk 18:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to remove [[2007 NCAA Division I FBS football season]] "Key games" section 

message: I created a simple infobox for our main yearly article such as 2006 NCAA Division I FBS football season called . Long winded, I know, but I was going for accuracy (also,  redirects to the FBS one). So far, I have put it on the 2006 article and the 2007 article so you can see the difference between a completed season and an in-progress one. I modeled it after . What I like about this template is it automatically discerns between Division I-A and Division I FBS depending on the year, so the editor doesn't have to worry about it and it is always accurate. Take a look at it and let me know if I should make any changes or if you spot any errors. Also, any help on adding it to the other articles would be appreciated.↔NMajdan•talk 16:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any picture/logo that would go well with it? Right now, it's pretty small and might be easily overlooked. I like the idea. How about some of the other awards as well -- Bednarik Trophy, Ray Guy Award, things like that? JKBrooks85 (talk) 18:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New template/infobox 

message: Someone changed the colors on the CFB Schedule template.  I find them to be hard on the eyes.  Just wondering what everyone else thinks.  Template in question: Template:CFB Schedule Entry
Example:  2007 LSU Tigers football team#Schedule 
I think the old colors were better.  Seancp (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like its been reverted. I'm not seeing a difference.↔NMajdan•talk 19:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Fbdave changed the colors again. I reverted and asked that he discuss any color changes, which replicates to dozens of articles, on the template talk page.↔NMajdan•talk 22:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFB Schedule Colors 

message: User:SportsMasterESPN keeps moving the 2007 LSU Tigers football team article to a new name.  I have asked him repeatedly to keep it as 'LSU' and not 'Louisiana State' but I can't revert it again because of the 3RR.  Please see my comments on Talk:2007 Louisiana State Tigers football team.  I would like a final determination made so we can put this to rest.  Thanks. Seancp (talk) 20:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd personally go with whatever's in the university's style guide or the latest football media guide. JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LSU article naming 

message: I have implemented the new design so I ask that everybody take a look at articles that use this template and make sure that the template is working in all situations (always hard to test). Some things to look out for, the  is a required field and its missing on most instances so this field will need to be populated. Also, this template was designed to deprecate  so on bowl games articles, they will have two infoboxes. Delete the Bowl template and add the appropriate data to the GameHeader template. Thanks↔NMajdan•talk 21:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, to make updating the old design easier, I have added to the template documentation just the fields that are new here.↔NMajdan•talk 21:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fantastic work. I've added it to 2006 Chick-fil-A Bowl, and it looks great. JKBrooks85 21:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New design implemented