Talk:Machine Gun Kelly (gangster)

message: There is an obvious omission from this article: how did he get his nickname? Sure, the reader can assume the obvious - that he used machine guns in his crimes - but it would be much better to have some details in the article. Does anyone have any info on this? -- Hux 21:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nickname

message: "The couple were married..." What couple? This section should be expanded or deleted. Otherise it's pretty pointless.
NickQ 21:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage 

message: The article states, "Most historians agree that it marked the end of the gangster era in America."  What is it?  The preceding sentences talk of the kidnapping of Urschel and the two trials.  Sounds like the sentence should read "they" instead of "it."  Perhaps, most historians would agree that the gangster era ended in America with the death of John Dillinger in July of 1934.  L. Thomas W. (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Significance

message: The article includes the sentence
At the time it was the largest ransom ever paid in the United States
but nowhere else is a ransom mentioned. I presume the ransom concerns Kelly's kidnapping of Urschel and Jarrett, but there's no mention of the result of that kidnapping other than Kelly being captured after "56 days on the run". What actually happened?
-- Dan Griscom (talk) 20:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ransom? 

message: Throughout the article, his wife's name is spelled "Kathryn".  In the biography box, it is spelled "Katherine".
Which is correct? Tmagsadie (talk) 11:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of wife's name? 

message: His most famous crime was the kidnapping of oil tycoon & businessman Charles Urschel in July 1933 for which he, and his gang, earned $200,000 in ransom.
Earned seems like the wrong word used to describe the receipt of money from a kidnapping.  Words referring to theft (stole, took) also seem wrong.  "Received" seems best.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.244.95 (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earned? 

message: Okay, just wanted to know, the article states his name came from his favorite weapon, the Thompson machine gun, but where in the world does the "Kelly" part come from?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Second Skin (talk • contribs) 05:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: @Second Skin I'm still wondering where the Kelly part comes from Kelly 23123 (talk) 08:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kelly? 

message: Family lives in Nevada, like in Mesquite, Las Vegas, Pahrump, etc., and some in Hawaii.
Original research, so don't cite it nor add it to article. Find and contact the members if you want. Two of 'em are dead-ringing clones of Machine Gun Kelly. 70.180.188.238 (talk) 14:23, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descendants 

message: Please have a look at this and either revert or clarify that we cannot say for sure when he was born (in accordance with cited sources). Other Wikipedias (de, ru) have 1895 as his DOB.    FDMS  4    20:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: July 17,1900 appears as Kelly's birthdate on his World War I draft registration card, filled out in September 1918, and is the date provided by Kelly’s son, Bruce Barnes, in his book Machine Gun Kelly: To Right a Wrong, published in 1991 KMeredithHistory (talk) 17:08, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB issue 

message: The biog in the sidebar describes his occupations as “Gangster, bootlegger and businessman”… Businessman? Did he ever have any sort of business (other than crime), and if so, if it is significant enough to get a mention in the box, shouldn’t it be in the article? To be honest, it makes him sound like the local gangsters on The Simpsons, who are satirically styled as “independent businessmen”. Jock123 (talk) 08:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Businessman? 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Machine Gun Kelly (musician) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 10:02, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: I am the author of a book entitled Under Penalty of Death: The Untold Story of Machine Gun Kelly's First Kidnapping, to be published in May 2023 by Red Lightning Books, an imprint of Indiana University Press. I will benefit financially from the sale of this book. Drawing on research conducted for the book, I made several substantial changes to the Machine Gun Kelly page on April 12, 2023, adding what I feel is historically imperative and thoroughly documented information about Kelly's kidnapping of Howard Woolverton in January 1932. I would like to continue to correct, add to and create Wikipedia articles about this crime, placing notices like this in each article's talk section. But any guidance on the best way to proceed is welcome. KMeredithHistory (talk) 17:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of Interest statement 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. The question isn't "is the musician PRIMARY", it's "is the musician's notability such that the gangster is no longer PRIMARY?" The answer to the question, from the discussion, is "yes". (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 23:50, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. The musician has been notable for long enough that I don't believe it's a case of recentism. If he fades into obscurity in 10 years, maybe revisit this, but for now I think a disambiguation page is appropriate. WPscatter t/c 06:10, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 May 2023