Talk:Beast (Marvel Comics)

message: Some folks have gone totally overboard with the background information. It seems that somebody thought it would be a good idea to cover The Beast's role in every Marvel event of the last decade or so, even when Beast's participation was pretty marginal. Shouldn't the article stick major developments in the character's career?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.15.155 (talk) 03:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Excessive Information

message: I think we should avoid "vital stats" lists in WP articles on fictional characters, as their info is usually unverifiable, vague, a subject of significant debate, and/or simply not interesting writing.  I've removed the info from this article, especially as it also duplicates some of the info in the existing text. -mhr 03:52, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Vital Stats

message: The references have been put in order of use in the article. Most of the information is from the Official Marvel Comics Site. The Xavier Files reveals that he possesses a "superhuman intellect", which means he was born with a vast intellect, as it suggests that it is a power. However, this is not confirmed in other sources, and if it is a power he would lose his brilliant mind while in the Savage Land. In The Uncanny X-Men #308, Cyclops says that Beast has a doctorate in biophysics. X-Men: The Ultimate Guide states that he is on par with Xavier in genius. Science of the X-Men explains genetic atavism and neoteny as related to Beast's mutation. X-Men: Reign of Apocalypse Hero Handbook was an official website (now removed) that showed Beast's role in the Legacy Virus and his reading of Proust. The Wolverine's Revenge website states that Beast is a Renaissance Man, and The Marvel Universe Roleplaying Game lists many of Dr. McCoy's specialties. 24.253.120.206  16:48, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Wouldn't an image of him in his original form (furless) be useful on here since it's the way he existed for his for 16 years as a character? The "Cover to Astonishing X-Men #4" comes close, but it shows a black and white, upside down, distorted-looking image. What about something like this?AriGold 13:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: Per the WP:COMIC talk page, Ultimate character entries should be merged into the character's main article. --Newt ΨΦ 18:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Ultimate Beast 

message: *Merge  --Newt ΨΦ 18:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: On top of his alternate-reality characterdom, he's a dead alternate reality character, and thus, barring any Marvel Death, it's doubtful the Beast (comics) article will grow to the size that merits a new article. --Newt ΨΦ 18:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: In the Danger storyline written by Joss Whedon, the Beast clearly lets his "animal" side take over while fighting (and overcoming) Danger in Genosha. Earlier on, during Grant Morrison's E is for Extinction story arc he also stated that trying to fight Cassandra Nova with his brains when she first revealed herself (and made Beak beat him into a coma) was a mistake, and then let loose a deep animal growl with Wolverine by his side. He's also been seen holding his own against Wolverine in terms of savagery when they fought over his temptation to cure himself from his mutation with Dr. Rao's medecine in the Gifted storyline (also by Whedon).
That's an unusual behaviour for a character whose genius-level IQ had always been preeminent, and it seems likely that his feline form has been affecting his self-perception and allowed him to rely on his increased animal instinct and heightened senses when needed, while retaining his usual genius and humour in most cases. These facts make him the other "animal-minded" Astonishing X-Man, alongside Wolverine. --Cosmic Camel Clash 00:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Berserker rage and similarities to Wolverine in current feline form

message: Is it Philip or Peter? --68.224.247.53 22:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Middle Name

message: It says the picture would be deleted on December 16. It's been more than a week since then. --Addict 2006 22:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture for speedy deletion (under Films or something) 

message: These two pages should be merged into the main page as they are only different versions of the same character.  If this makes the page too long a companion page for alternate versions should be created similar to what Wolverine (comics) has with Alternate versions of Wolverine 69.182.78.104 06:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge [[Dark Beast]] and [[Brute (Hank McCoy)]]

message: *no merge - for the dark beast. Because not only he has a different personality, outlook, motives, tactics etc. he also has a distinct role, function and history IN the current marvel universe/continuity. He is basically a different character derived from the same template put through a spin of an alternate reality. This would be like merging cable with nate grey. TheDreamingCelestial 23:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Renewed discussion, Merge Brute Only

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Beastastonishing.jpg

message: There's no mention of their romance, in this article or in Dazzler's.  -- AvatarMN 21:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beauty and the Beast 

message: According to BusinessWeek, Beast is listed as one of the top ten most intelligent fictional characters in American comics. Smartest Superheroes Bookkeeperoftheoccult (talk) 09:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Ten most intelligent fictional characters 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Beast Jim Lee art.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:NewX-Men Beast.jpg

message: This section was removed from article; posting here for posterity.
*Oh my stars and garters!
*There comes a time 'twixt life and death
::When all men stop to catch their breath.
:We ask the stars 'Why?', we question our lot,
::The heavens open wide and reply, 'Why not? (X-Men #11)
*Cecilia Reyes: Theoretical physics and basic anatomy. I'm impressed.
:Beast: You should see me play Pictionary.
:Cecilia Reyes: Sure, maybe after we get it ou -- *gasp* You -- You're an animal...?
:Beast: It's not 'animal,' miss, it's 'Beast' ... a 'Beast' which happens to know a thing or two about the dynamic application of nano-effusive devices. Animal is a Muppet. (X-Men #70)
*Banshee: Hard to believe th' boyo's got a doctorate in biophysics. (The Uncanny X-Men #308)
204.153.84.10 (talk) 15:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI; there is a Wikiquotes. Lots42 (talk) 22:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotes

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Uncanny8.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Beast Jim Lee art.jpg

message: Why is this article (at least the lead) written in present tense? Applejuicefool (talk) 02:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess it's really just the second paragraph I have issues with. I'll fix it. Applejuicefool (talk) 02:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, writing about fiction guidelines state that in-universe aspects should be written in present tense. Pairadox (talk) 06:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I see what you're saying. The phrasing "originally possesses" is a bit confusing, especially if you are ignorant of the wiki guidelines. One could read the paragraph and come away with the understanding that Beast changes back and forth between a human-looking guy and a blue furry fuzzball. I'll take another look and see if I can correct this ambiguity while working within the present-tense guideline. Applejuicefool (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, how's that? Applejuicefool (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice. Pairadox (talk) 18:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Present tense? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Moviebeast.jpeg

message: Since it's not known if Beast on the Skrull ship IS a Skrull or not, I decided to be bold and remove it all together. If it is him somehow, add it back in. I replaced it with current Beast activities, namely being awesome in California. Lots42 (talk) 22:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And sure enough, Ship-Beast was a Skrull. Lots42 (talk) 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My changes 

message: In X2: X-Men United, Dr. Hank McCoy is seen on the television in the bar as an expert on mutation debating with Dr. Shaw on the mutant situation. Then, in a deleted scene he is transformed by Dark Cerebro, bridging X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand. In the latter, he is shown reading the "Tracking Mutations" article of Scientific American to learn about advances in his previous field. He uses technical jargon: "mutant antibody" and tries to correct Storm on the scientific perspective, saying "Well, scientifically speaking…." Further, on X-Men: The Last Stand he is described thus: "Dr. McCoy is a brilliant scientist and researcher. ... McCoy proved invaluable ... in the laboratory, where his vast intelligence and insight into mutant genetics quickly distinguished him from the rest of the team." Therefore, he is a scientific genius and renowned geneticist like in the comics. In a deleted scene he is holding textbooks waiting to teach an incoming wave of students at the Xavier Mansion like in the comics. 
The X3 website reveals he played football in college. In the comics, he played football in high school.   
In X-Men: The Last Stand, he is Secretary of Mutant Affairs, has been fighting for mutant rights for years, and insists he is a diplomat.  In Marvel Encyclopedia Volume 2: X-Men, he is revealed to be "equal parts biochemist and political activist."
Beast is embarrassed by and defensive of his mutant nature, as evidenced by his expression after Leech shakes his hand and his sentiments regarding mutants taking the cure in X3. On Wolverine's Revenge, Beast "struggles with the demons of loneliness and rejection." Also, according to Marvel Encyclopedia Volume 2: X-Men, he fights his feral instincts, while in the film he roars and fights with a savage style, even breaking the neck of an enemy in a deleted scene. 
Kelsey Grammer portrays him as refined similar to George Buza's depiction in the X-Men animated series episode "Enter Magneto". In the film he inspects a piece of art with his spectacles, and in the Marvel Universe Roleplaying Game he has knowledge of art history. He hangs upside down while reading in the movie similar to the comics. In X3, he says his famous quote from the comics, "Oh, my stars and garters." He also quotes Churchill in the film, which is similar to his quoting Shakespeare and such in the books. Wolverine likes the suit he wears frequently in X3, and in this article it is revealed that he is eager to put a suit and tie on after an animal regression in the comics. 
In Ultimate X-Men, Beast is close to Storm, and in X3 she is excited to see him. He is obviously one of the early recruits to the X-Men in both media, as inferred from this scene and explicit on the official website. Also in Ultimate X-Men he describes himself as fat, and in The Last Stand he finds it hard to believe his uniform once fit him. --68.227.32.148 (talk) 00:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie Comparison 

message: I don’t really know what “…Angel loses his wings in a battle and shortly after turns up missing”, means, as it seems a contradiction in terms to me, but it certainly doesn’t seem like the formal style of an encyclopædia.Jock123 (talk) 14:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  “…turns up missing”? 

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Beast (Marvel Comics). (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Beast (character) →  – It's pretty standard for comic book characters to be named with (comics), and this would help to further distinguish this from other characters named Beast, like Beast (Beauty and the Beast) JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:37, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 July 2022