Talk:Cheek kissing

message: In fact, when some Latin American people are introduced to someone new, they usually greet them with a cheek kiss if the person being introduced to them is a member of the opposite sex or two women. If the person is a complete stranger, no kissing is done."
Any person you meet for the first time is always a complete stranger to you. The snare (talk) 17:38, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: "Cheek kissing is relatively popular in the South East Asian country of Macao as a lot of the residents are of Portuguese decent." Ahahaha, what? Is this a vandal troll or what? Macao is East Asian, not South East, and no, not a lot of them are of Portuguese descent.
:In fact the residents of Portuguese descent are so few, that they do not even make up a percentage of the total population of Macao, and are indeed heading to certain and irreversible extinction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.224.42.19 (talk) 17:54, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macao 

message: When giving a cheek-kissing, one should start from the left (right cheek of the other person) or the right? Different country does it differently?--202.22.246.26 03:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, my two cents as french very uncomfortable whith this "faire la bise" social requirement. First of all this is not a lip-to-cheek contact, but a cheek-cheek contact with a kiss in the air evidenced by a sony event (the "bise", something like "smack"). It's anatonomically impossible to simultaneously have a lip-to-cheek contact so my guess this is the reason why it has to be doubled, at least, is by a mean of reciprocity : this is not the same as when a parent kiss his child on the cheek, whe need a kind of equality here. The problem is where to start : from the left or from the right? It is exactly the same problem when you are walking in the street and that someone is going straight in your way : you're going left to avoid collission, he's going left too to avoid you, you went right, he did too, you left, he right, left, right, left, right, bang! The good thing with "faire la bise" is that it enventually ends is a much more pleasant way than a simple body collision, just because you do not really want to avoid the lip-to-lip collision. But remember, this happens only once in a lifetime :-) Best 134.214.60.60 (talk) 22:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is it done? 

message: Depending on the local culture, cheek kissing may be considered appropriate between a man and a woman, a parent and a child, two women, or two men. The last is socially accepted in Russia and the Middle East but may bring up associations with homosexuality in Western Europe, Latin America and the US.
Take my advice, stick to your Lonely Planet. That's about as socially accepted as a headshot for a greeting. Which is not.
Cheek kissing between male relatives (i.e., father/son, uncle/nephew, grandfather/grandson, cousins, brothers) is perfectly acceptable by many if not most Miami Cubans, who regard this as a sign of familial affection. This happens between relatives regardless of the age of either party. They don't practice cheek kissing between male friends, unless the friendship is very close. See Andy Garcia and others in The Lost City (2005 film) for examples. -- Jerseycube (talk) 04:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  O RLY? 

message: I significantly reworded the USA/Canada section to reflect how rare cheek kisses are in these countries. I am a resident of California, USA for all my life and from my experience cheek kisses are rare to nonexistent. I feel comfortable making these changes unilaterally because of how exceptionally rare they are; however, if somebody from a different region of the US feels that they are more commonplace than I make them out to be, feel free to reword the section to make it more neutral and to add additional detail of how cheek kisses are done in your region. —Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 01:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made changes to USA/Canada section... 

message: I'm not sure this statement actually adds anything to this article: "Accounting for it is a plot element in Frederick Forsyth's thriller The Day of the Jackal." FerralMoonrender 23:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd Info 

message: Removed the whole completely uncited, incorrect section. - Francis Tyers · 14:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UK / Ireland 

message: The current main image for this article, though cute, doesn't fit the tone or professionalism of Wikipedia; namely, you can't see much of either person's face. Perhaps if someone were willing to replace it... --Is this fact...? 22:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Main Image

message: "Unusually for western countries a Dutch cheek kiss always consists of three consecutive kisses."
what? three consecutive kisses is not uncommon elsewhere, switzerland and france come to mind.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.35.31.33 (talk) 14:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  netherlands 

message: Cheek kissing consisting of three consecutive kisses also exists in the Arab world, not just in Western Europe, especially in the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland and France.
But the question is: How common is cheek kissing consisting of three consecutive kisses in Arab countries; does it depend on each country, region and environment?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.215.25.42 (talk) 15:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheek kissing consisting of three consecutive kisses also exists in the Arab world, not just in Western Europe, especially in the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland and France. 

message: The entry about the Philippines (under the Asian section) is incomplete. While it is true, there is also the cheek-to-cheek beso greeting, there is no doubt the Spanish/European/Latin style of kissing lips-to-cheeks. In fact, this is a normal way of kiss-greeting (beso), but in the Filipino culture, the kiss is only once.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.9.55 (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippines 

message: In the passage on Holland it says there are three just like (northern) Belgium...one paragraph later it says Walloons only kiss once.Historian932 (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing re: Wallonia 

message: The start of the article points out that cheek kissing is common in southern, central and eastern Europe, and less common in, among other places, northern Europe. When it goes into specific countries, it turns out that it is common in Netherland (where it definitely is common), as well as some other western/northern European countries. And it's less common in Germany, despite it being more central Europe, where it should be more common. I suggest the introductory paragraph to be removed or rewritten. (Mcvos (talk) 11:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistent and wrong intro 

message: Turkey is considered a Eurasian country which is above the Middle East region, between Middle East, Europe and Asia. The country is a part of many Europe related organizations and considered in the Euro zone by many organizations including United Nations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.183.205 (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please give reference when adding material about the subject in Turkey. --BwB (talk) 09:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Turkey is geographically a Eurasian country, with 97% in Asia (Anatolia, which is the Asian part of Turkey, is geographically part of the Middle East, which in turn is geographically part of Asia, the Middle East is not a region separate from Asia) and 3% in Europe. However culturally it is not Southern European, especially when it comes to cheek kissing, even less.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.213.223.118 (talk) 13:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

text: OK But you must qdd q reference when qdding material.--BwB (talk) 12:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

text:  The problem is that Turkey is categorized under European countries on Wikipedia and for the sake of integrity, it is best to follow the same guideline here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe#Political_geography. Your own opinion about whether the country is culturally Southern European or not cannot be used as a reason to change the categorization. Wikipedia is not a forum where you share your personal opinions about topics and edit articles according to those subjective ideas. It is also important to understand what is accepted as a reliable source for an article on Wikipedia. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links for more information. Blog websites which tend to have personal opinions cannot be used as reliable sources for an encyclopedic content.  I hope this clarifies the issue for you. 76.89.183.205 (talk) 10:34, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

text:  I will escalate this issue to an editor as you are vandalizing the page, undoing the previous edited article without explanation. You should understand the consequences of such actions. 76.89.183.205 (talk) 11:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

text: The user 76.89.183.205 who has engaged in an edit war over this issue with me and with the user Menikure has to understand that Turkey is geographically in Asia, and in Southwest Asia (Middle East) to be precise. The ancient geographical name of Turkey was "Asia Minor" (Little Asia) and has for many centuries been considered as part of Asia. Turkey (which is primarily in Asia, not in Europe) has long been considered to be "Middle East", and never "South European". That Turkey is a memeber of many European organizations (just like Cyprus, which is entirely in Asia) does not change this fact. The user is ignorant of the fact that culturally Turkey has practically nothing in common with the South European countries, though (except the southeast Turkey around Mardin, Şanlıurfa, Gaziantep and Hatay, where the Arabic language and cultural inflences are significant) it has also not a lot common with the Arab countries and with Iran, apart from religion, either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.254.129.68 (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot see any sources here. Sorry but you are still sharing what you think. There's already been a long debate about this subject on the discussion page of Europe. Please check the article to see the result. What you write here are basically your ideas and it would be the same if I said the country is the opposite. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek%E2%80%93Turkish_relations&diff=prev&oldid=423507668 Here, it can be seen what you are trying to do. 76.89.183.205 (talk) 13:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather than issuing some blocks I have protected the page for 24 hours. Edit warring is frowned on on Wikipedia, you should follow a process of Bold,Revert,Discuss. Right now you are on the Discuss part. Please come to an agreement here on the talk page before continuing to edit this content into the article --Errant (chat!) 13:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Rather than arguing about it, why not just look for sources that cover all the bases. Turkey is smack bang between Europe and the Middle East with parts of the country in both. It was the gateway between the Asia and Europe, but is difficult to define which it really belongs too. It's further east than the traditionally though of Eastern European nations like Bulgaria, Hungary and even the Former Soviet republics of Lithuania etc. However, it's further west than the typical Mid East nations that surround the Persian Gulf. However, to say it's in Asia isn't strictly correct either. In ancient times, it was referred to Asia Minor because it geographically was similar to Asia. However, in modern terminology, Central Asian nations are ones such as Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and the other sourthern former SSR's. What is needed is a sentence that covers bases by indicating how it was referred to and by which sources. Something along the lines of "Turkey is considered by some as a European nation (source), a Middle Eastern nation (source)" etc etc. --Blackmane (talk) 08:16, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this article about social kissing, or is it about geography? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:21, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It probably started off about kissing but then degenerated into a segue about where it's practised followed by a subsequent segue as to what part of the world said place is --Blackmane (talk) 21:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey 

message: I've made a few cosmetic changes to the article. No new content, just some retitling and moving some things around. This was inspired by some discussion with the IP. It seems silly to edit war over which continent Turkey is in. That's not really the point of this article. So I'm trying to get it away from "continentalization" to some extent. It's more about regions and countries than about continents. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cosmetic changes 

message: Capital letters are intentional. Congratulations! I do love all the pics. They are absolutely simple, soft and sweet in a way that surprise us b/c they touch us, simple readers, so deeply! Well done! At last, but not at least, since I am unemployed now and I can't donate only for now (I am so sorry) and although a comment is always welcome but not enough (in my opinion), I just want to write "thank you" to each and everyone from the Wikipedia, you are amazing, "working" for us, users. 189.25.17.126 (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  CONGRATULATIONS! 

message: In popular gay culture, kissing on the cheeks was influenced by homophobic people to denigrate them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.157.227 (talk) 05:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay Culture

message: I guess it rather goes to the generalization of Eastern Europe that kissing cheeks is common. Never have I seen this tradition in the Baltics or the Nordics. Even with family or really close friends… if they do kiss cheeks, it’s really rare. Rather an individual exception than a norm. I’d say kissing cheeks is seen as something very intimate and even unpleasant or offensive (e.g. someone not so close decides to do that). 87.119.186.103 (talk) 23:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nordics and the Baltic states 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Kiss hello and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 27#Kiss hello until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Steel1943 (talk) 17:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kiss hello" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]