Talk:Adobe Flash Player

message: In the first sentence: "software for viewing multimedia, executing rich Internet applications, and streaming video and audio, content created on the Adobe Flash platform." What does this mean? Can it only be used to view, execute and stream content created on the Adobe Flash platform? Or can it view and execute content created on other platforms, but stream only content created on the Adobe Flash platform? Or can it also be used for streaming video and audio content created on other platforms? Nurg (talk) 04:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only content created on the Adobe Flash platform? 

message: Is there a source which has no COI in providing the penetration numbers of Flash Player? 87.78.174.19 (talk) 06:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fact 

message: One thing I like about this article is that it usually has the date of the latest update of Flash Player.  There was an update release today (Feb 5 2015) but when I looked at the article, the article hadn't been updated to match.  I did find the release notes on Adobe's site.  Oaklandguy (talk) 03:13, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: . You can thank  for his vigilance. —Codename Lisa (talk) 17:07, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date of latest updates 

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message: There's a mix of format for dates (day month year and month day, year,), would be nice if someone made them consistent one way or another. 09:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates format 

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message: does anyone know anything about the product e.o.l.,and the future direction of these types of services?
Pga1965 (talk) 12:55, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 - end of life, and future of services 

message: I found the following document on Adobe's website: 
Adobe Flash Player EOL General Information Page Maybe the Wikipedia article refers to this somewhere; but if not, it should. I'm not enough of an expert to edit the article to include this reference, but I hope someone will. I have had Flash Player installed. Today, Adobe sent me a notice that referred to their document, but the link within that notice didn't work. Adobe's notice has an Uninstall button, with the description, "If you do not need to access Flash content, we recommend that you remove Flash Player from your system by clicking the 'Uninstall' button below." I will do exactly that after I finish this edit. Oaklandguy (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adobe's explanation 

message: Should it be said that Pale Moon (web browser) has vowed to support NPAPI plugins including Flash beyond 2020?
The current article says which OSs support it and which browsers won't but not which browsers will.
--Error (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

message: In this Microsoft article: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/update-adobe-flash-support, it says 'Here's what you can expect for each Microsoft browser:'possibly referring to Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer. Also, it only specified that Flash would be removed from the new Microsoft Edge (the one with the Chromium build). Just put this here in case anyone wanted to edit using this information. Atimes3 (talk) 16:15, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing 'Clarify' issue 

message: This page should not be speedily deleted because... flash is an enormous part of internet history  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.139.68 (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: Everything is about Flash’s discontinuation today. Since it’s outdated(and Adobe is blocking flash content from running Jan 12), I suggest changing everything to past tense. Opinions?--Iovecodeabc (talk) 22:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Discontinued software does not cease to exist. MOS:TENSE says that articles on discontinued products should be written in present tense. I wouldn't mind changing sentences to past tense where it actually makes sense—but not everything. Definitely not the first sentence—"Adobe Flash Player ... is discontinued computer software". Again, it did not cease to exist. It is just deprecated, discontinued and soon dysfunctional or perhaps unusable. But it exists, so past tense cannot be used there.—J. M. (talk) 23:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past tense? 

message: So, I have checked several software articles and there is some disagreement on how to handle this. For the past tense, Windows Movie Maker uses the "... is a discontinued software ..." form for example, and Netscape Navigator uses "... was a proprietary web ...". In that front, no comment. Moreover, other software articles do use "a" regardless of its uncountability. It is clearly helpful that singular indefinite pronouns are used for clarity, despite that the formal grammar rules appear to contradict this. Needless to say, "Flash is discontinued software" doesn't really read well. - 49.147.244.20 (talk) 02:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , may I know the rationale of not using "a discontinued software" despite "Flash is discontinued software" being less clear on reading? - 49.147.244.20 (talk) 02:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

text: I can't see any disagreement. For example, Netscape Navigator says it is "a browser" ("browser" is a countable noun), Windows Movie Maker says it is "a software program" (the "program", not "software", is the subject in the sentence, hence the indefinite article, as "program" is a countable noun) etc. Saying that Adobe Flash Player is "a software" is simply wrong. You can say it is "a software product" (where "product", which is a countable noun, is the subject), but you can't say it is "a software". So you can reword the first sentence, but it cannot say it is "a software".—J. M. (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

text: As for the discontinuation, Netscape Navigator has been dead for decades. Adobe Flash Player still exists, it is still used on many web pages, and saying that it "was" a software product just because of the planned obsolescence  is a typical example of overzealous editing on Wikipedia.—J. M. (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Readability on "Flash is discontinued software" 

message: The person adding the text was trying to be helpful. I too was trying to be helpful, but in a clumsy way. So I apologize for not bringing my concerns here before attempting to add a note to the main article.
The software is no longer being supported and Adobe is FIRMLY requesting that it be removed from users devices. Details about Adobe's announcement are here: 
https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
At this point Wikipedia editors more familiar than Me with how to present the Flash story could rewrite this article to reflect the historical value that Flash and the Flash Player provided for these many years. I'm sentimental. So it's kind of sad to see the end of Flash. But it does deserve a farewell here on Wikipedia that takes into account Adobe's position as well as that of users. I'll look to find information elsewhere that may be useful.
Stan Pokras SuperStan100 (talk) 00:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Vandalism 

message: We all know that Microsoft Update KB4577586 removed Adobe Flash from the Windows operating system (mostly Windows 8.1 & Windows 10), and it's possible that Windows 11 removed the built-in Adobe Flash Player from the included Windows Components. But does Microsft Update KB4577586 also removes the Mainland Chinese version of Adobe Flash Player from Windows 8.1 and Windows 10? So far, as far as I know, nobody has seemed to tested this with the Chinese versions of Windows 8.1 & Windows 10.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeveloperPudú (talk • contribs) 00:01, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Microsoft Update KB4577586 also removes the Mainland Chinese version of Adobe Flash Player from Windows. 

message: This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here)
:This is is not a fantastic article, but is is not unambiguously promotional. Adobe Flash Player easily meets WP:GNG. Bearing in mind that Adobe Flash Player is now pretty much defunct since 2021, it is hard to see how the article is promoting something that almost no-one is using nowadays. Speedy deletion is for very poor articles, please do not add speedy delete tags as a stunt. This was not well thought out.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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