Talk:The Two Georges

message: The release ans award dates (if correct) require time travel.
Anyone know the correct dates? Osprey
:Per the Sidewise Award site, it was indeed nominated for the 1995 award (though it did not, in fact, win it).  Per Amazon, the first edition was released March 1, 1996.  So I'm confused, too. —Cryptic (talk) 04:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You know? This one had me stumped as well, until it dawned on me. When you read, Sidewise's website, you'll note the publisher is listed as "Hodder & Staughton", a *British* publisher. Apparently, it was published in the UK first in 1995, before its U.S. debut in March of 1996. See: http://catalogue.bl.uk for details. The book was an interesting read, I remember it. Interesting, a mistake we make often in the USA, assuming a book has been published in this country first. I wonder if the same would have happened in Turtledove's British America, or "North American Union" --Larry G 05:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Release dates?

message: I have switched the "jack and stripes" used on this page a flag of the British East India Company with the post-1800 Union Jack. According to FOTW, this flag is used in the book; see http://flagspot.net/flags/fic_2g.html#nau. - Thanks, Hoshie 09:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: But alot of stuff after the plot summary looks like original research and/or questionable. 68.39.174.238 04:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm sorry, 

message: ...incorrect, per the authoritative version included in the front of the version I finished reading. The British still have British Guiana, Portugal is evidently independent (Or at least still owns Brazil), all of Africa is listed as belonging to someone, etc, etc. 68.39.174.238 18:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  That map is... 

message: Not sure where or whether this should be inserted but The Two Georges' scenes of mining life owe a lot to George Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier. Avalon (talk) 08:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The Road to Wigan Pier

message: :::In this book, the North American Union is composed of many provices. Could they be put on the artical in a table, please? I will list the provinces below. Note, OTL means Original Time Line or Our Time Line and ATL means Alternate Time Line. Could a map of the North American Union from the book also be put on Wikipedia on the Two Georges page? 24.147.1.197 (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: These are all of the known provinces of the North American Union. My source was from the Harry Turtledove Wiki. That wiki helped me out with the list. 24.147.1.197 (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Long since done. I almost completely forgot about this comment I left back when I was editing Wikipedia as a wiki contributor under my first IP address. My request ended up being answered by myself under my second IP address! Funny how the time just goes by so fast these days. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:02, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Provinces of the NAU/Edit Request 8/20/14

message: :::These are all of the known provinces of the North American Union. My source was from the Harry Turtledove Wiki. That wiki helped me out with the list. 24.147.1.197 (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Long since done. I almost completely forgot about this comment I left back when I was editing Wikipedia as a wiki contributor under my first IP address. My request ended up being answered by myself under my second IP address! Funny how the time just goes by so fast these days. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:02, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Provices

message: I was able to put down all of the provinces of the North American Union on the page. However, something messed up and my editing didn't come out like I planed. I thought I set up the table where I put the names of all the provinces in order correctly, but the table still got screwed up somehow. Could someone fix my mess up? --75.68.122.13 (talk) 14:24, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It was me - just needed to add a couple of lines to start the table. You're welcome! Robevans123 (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Mess up on Provinces Section

message: Could new map be added to the article? The map of the world that is already on the article is horribly inaccurate to the one on found in the novel. The borders of some of the nations and colonies and wrong and a few of those colonies and shown to be part of the wrong European power. The map in the link below me is much cleaner and more accurate.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/turtledove/images/6/69/WorldMap_1995_TheTwoGeorges_by_lamnay.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120730173506
--75.68.122.13 (talk) 15:27, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Map/Edit Request 7/29/2016

message: While the novel was first published in the U.K. (which is why I left it in 1995 British novels), the authors are both very American authors. It just happened that for logistic reasons related to the two publishers' schedules, the U.K. edition technically came out first. The authors are Yanks, the sales of the U.S. edition were much higher, etc. It is extremely misleading to categorize this as a British book in any way except "the first edition is the U.K. edition". --Orange Mike | Talk 02:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why I changed the categories 

message: The map that is shown here on the Two Georges article here on Wikipedia (originally on Wikimedia) is very incorrect and outdated. In fact, one of the only few accurate things on this map in that it shows Jamaica under control of the Holy Alliance (Franco-Spain) as it does on the map in the novel. In fact, I'm just going to list as many inaccurate things I can find about this map as I can possibly find. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Very Inaccurate Map/Request for a Better Map 2/15/2018

message: The text says that Baja is British American, but in the map it is French-Spanish. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 13:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If your talking bout the map that is currently on the page, that map is Very very inaccurate. According to the map at the beginning of the book and some dialog, it mentions that Baja California (called Lower California in the novel) is part of the North American Union and is the Southern most province. Look at my above comments about the map, dude. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: Does anyone have any idea what Richard Dreyfuss contributed to this novel?  Since Harry Turtledove is a historian, his contribution can be inferred, but Dreyfuss is an actor, and this is not a film.  Just curious.  Jokem (talk) 03:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Dreyfuss