Talk:Pontiac GTO

message: This section appears to have been copied from the following website: http://www.tachrev.com/GTO4.htm
The information is good, but not original
--EMU CPA (talk) 21:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Revival Section of Article

message: The '08 GTO is going to be the Pontiac G8. No name change. The Firebird isn't going to be coming out in at least 3 years (if so).
1:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: G8 is perhaps a cousin of the GTO, but not a replacement.--EMU CPA (talk) 21:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2009

message: Is Tri-Power spelled with a dash or without one? Because both appear in the article, with and without a dash.
68.61.181.155 21:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tri-Power/Tri Power

message: No, don't merge it, get rid of the smaller.  It's poorly written especially compared to the larger article and makes some incorrect assertions (such as rushing features into 04' production and future production possibilities).
Yes, merge the Pontiac gto into Pontiac GTO or just redirect because the gto is just rehashing everything that the main GTO article covers. Either get rid of it or merge it in. KLRMNKY 01:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've turned it into a redirect.  A quick glance showed content that wasn't as good as here.  Anyone that wants to dig thru it and use whatever was there is able to do so.  Friday (talk) 01:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: *I removed an unsourced claim about a "record power to weight ratio" for the 1974 GTO.  Since the weight was something like 80 percent of its predecessor's weight, and the horsepower was something like 50 percent of the actual (not advertised) power of its predecessor, this couldn't be true even among GTOs, before one even considers the AC Cobra or Lotus Super Seven.  I'll check the edit history to see if this was just a hoax by an anon, as the poor spelling of the deleted sentence suggests.  Barno 21:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1974 power/weight ratio

message: Can you get Holden Monaro parts from Austraila and replace the current Pontiac GTO parts with them transforming it into a Holden Monaro? 209.137.173.69 20:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it might be possible; the only problem would be some interior parts, since the Monaro was only produced in right-hand drive while the GTO was, of course, produced in left-hand drive. --ApolloBoy 04:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And the GTO logo is stitched into the seats, which would recquire restitching.  I have actually seen one, with new fascias front and rear.  It can be done, there will still be places where the GTO logo will be visible.  Bok269 23:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Holden Monaro

message: This car only holds the namesake GTO, it is a travesty to include this model with the likes of a car that was argueably the original American Muscle Car. Rather, if anything, the page should be merged with the Monaro as it holds no deserving merit except for holding the same name as the GTO, nothing else, no similar body lines or looks. John DeLorean is rolling in his grave knowing this car holds the name GTO. The concept car has a greater likeness. I take offense to the fact the car holds the name GTO, and I'm a Ford man! Cobrapete 19:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, keep it all on one page. clever curmudgeon 03:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons to not Merge 

message: There was a popular song about the Pontiac GTO. It was called "GTO" or "Little GTO" or something.
I'm surprised nobody added it before me.  It was called "Little GTO" and was done by Ronny and the Daytonas.  They were a pretty good Beach Boys-esque surf/hot rod quartet.  I'd suggest anyone reading this should have a listen.  Now I have that "wah wah wah wah wah wah wah" part from Little GTO stuck in my head. 67.8.128.66 18:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I still don't believe his GTO was beating the gassers and the rail jobs. Gzuckier 19:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Song

message: I swear i remember some article in the magazines at the time that somebody at GM went through the steps to actually homologate the original GTO under FIA rules, and somebody ended up taking it to Le Mans (I think)... can't find any kind of reference on google, though. Grr. it would spice up the article. Gzuckier 18:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  actual homologation 

message: Just commenting on the quarter mile times, they seem real slow. I know a guy thats had 6 GTOs and he took a few to the track and one of his bone stock 1967 GTOs with a 389 4 speed did low 13s on crappy tires and pump gas.
I was running low 12's with my 2005, so I dont know where the 13 second quarter mile time is coming from. I heard it was to keep insurance rates down or something so they advertised it as a "slower" car. I added new injectors and exhaust and was in the high 11's........the car is fast, a little heavy but its fast.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.249.145.51 (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Track Times 

message: I realize that the entire section on the 2009 GTO is speculative, but the bit about it possibly changing its name to Firebird is beyond speculative and something I've only seen as a few bloggers' opinions on what they think the new vehicle should be.  --Mary quite contrary (hai?) 22:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change to Firebird??

message: Corrected a mistake with the quarter mile times. Pontiac quotes the 05 GTO at 13.0 secs at 109 mph. not 13.5 seconds... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.13.143.170 (talk) 06:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  05 Pontiac Literature 

message: I removed the GTO in Popular Culture section. None of the information was cited, and most of it was trivia. Livewireo (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular Culture

message: Can some one verify if the first gen Tempest / GTO related vehicles is correct. My understanding is the Tempest is related to the Chev Nova, Buick Skylark and Olds F-85. Not the Chevell, Special and Cutlass as listed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meridesbikes (talk • contribs) 05:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Generations Sister GM vehicles. 

message: The infobox says that it was made by GM from 1964 to 1974, and Holden from 2004-2006.  However it was made by the Pontiac subsidiary of GM from '64-'74, and was a badge-engineered version of the Monaro coupe built by the GM subsidiary Holden and imported under the Pontiac name from 2004-2006.
Long-winded way of saying the nomenclature is inconsistent.  As far as I know Holden is a wholly owned subsidiary of GM, no different from Saturn, Pontiac, or Oldsmobile, other than that it still exists.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.102.178 (talk) 19:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info box holden vs pontiac 

message: What was the reasoning behind it? The page doesn't go into those details. Spartan198 (talk) 01:14, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  VOE cancellation 

message: In 2004, GM's Pontiac division mailed out a large number of full color, multi-page booklets with the title "Meet the new Pontiacs". All the new for 2004 models were in it *except* the new GTO. Would be nice to see if someone still has one of those booklets to show how GM ganked their own product in the market. I never saw a television ad for the GTO, not even local dealer ads ever mentioned it. GM appeard to have a "not invented here" attitude towards the car which definitely sabotaged its sales numbers. You can't sell it if you don't tell people it exists. Bizzybody (talk) 05:55, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th gen lack of advertising 

message: Gosh, I just read this paragraph on the Article. Stock (might be a 2005-2006 6.0 version with a 6-speed manual transmission), it beat a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti in a January 2014 street race.[4] However, that race suggests that its 400 horsepower engine may be underrated for insurance purposes. EDIT: I removed the paragraph and warned the user already. 76.254.19.111 (talk) 17:29, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal street racing videos allowed on Wikipedia, I don't get it 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I just noticed that there are separate articles for the Tempest and the GTO. I don’t necessarily think a merge is in order for this reason (the Camaro/Firebird and Belvedere/Road Runner are enough evidence for that), but I do think that there should be more shared formatting and links between the two articles so that the information is homogenized. Marisauna (talk) 05:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to the Pontiac Tempest article 

message: The following uncited, anecdotal, "fan page" content has been relocated here.  It does not belong in main article space.  Properly rewritten and cited it could possibly be integrated (if and where appropriate at that point) as an intratext Note, using that format and syntax:
Car and Driver incited controversy when it mentioned that a GTO, which had supposedly been tuned with the "Bobcat" kit offered by Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac of Royal Oak, Michigan, was clocked at a quarter mile time time of 12.8 seconds and a trap speed of  on racing slicks. Later reports strongly suggest that the Car and Driver GTOs were equipped with a larger  engine that was optional in full-sized Pontiacs. Since the two engines were difficult to distinguish externally, the subterfuge was not immediately obvious. In Jim Wangers' Glory Days he admitted after three decades of denial that the red drag strip GTO had its engine swapped with a 421 Bobcat unit. Since the car was damaged during the testing, and Wangers did not want anyone looking under the hood, he used the blue road course GTO to flat tow the red GTO 1,500 miles back to Detroit.Car and Driver incited controversy when it mentioned that a GTO, which had supposedly been tuned with the "Bobcat" kit offered by Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac of Royal Oak, Michigan, was clocked at a quarter mile time time of 12.8 seconds and a trap speed of  on racing slicks. Later reports strongly suggest that the Car and Driver GTOs were equipped with a larger  engine that was optional in full-sized Pontiacs. Since the two engines were difficult to distinguish externally, the subterfuge was not immediately obvious. In Jim Wangers' Glory Days he admitted after three decades of denial that the red drag strip GTO had its engine swapped with a 421 Bobcat unit. Since the car was damaged during the testing, and Wangers did not want anyone looking under the hood, he used the blue road course GTO to flat tow the red GTO 1,500 miles back to Detroit.
2601:196:181:BE00:A5A3:BF9E:782:C056 (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relocated "fan page" content 

message: As with the above, the following "fan page" content has been relocated here. Though interesting it is unencylopedic, and does not belong in main article space.  At a GTO devotee website or blog, that is something else.  Not here:
====Bobcat====
Throughout the 1960s, Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac, a Pontiac car dealer in Royal Oak, Michigan, offered a special tune-up package for Pontiac 389 engines. The components and instructions could be purchased by mail, as well as installed by the dealer. A majority of the GTO's made available for media testing were equipped with a Bobcat kit.
Milt Schornack joined Royal Pontiac and helped improve the performance enhancement package. The components of the kit varied, but generally included parts to modify the spark advance of the distributor, limiting spark advance to 34–36° at no more than 3,000 rpm (advancing the timing at high rpm for increased power), a thinner copper head gasket to raise compression to about 11.23:1, special intake manifold gaskets to block the heat riser to the carburetor (keeping it cooler), larger carburetor jets, and locking rocker nuts to hold the hydraulic valve lifters at their maximum point of adjustment, allowing the engine to rev higher without "floating" the valves. Properly installed, the kit could add between 30 and 50 horsepower (20–40 kW), although it required high-octane super-premium gasoline rated at over 100 octane to avoid spark knock with the higher compression and advanced timing. Adhesive "Royal Bobcats" stickers were also included.
2601:196:181:BE00:A5A3:BF9E:782:C056 (talk) 23:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  More relocated "fan page" content 

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