Talk:Grand Mufti

message: South Africa: Shaykh Seraj Hendricks, Head Mufti of Cape Town . Can someone confirm this for me and add it, I don't want to mislead out of ignorance if i'm not correct.  --Huss4in (talk) 19:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: South Africa

message: Jordan: Grand Mufti Nuh Ali Salman. Here's aother one. I'm talking about contemporary and current people, I urge people to contribute. --Huss4in (talk) 19:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jordan

message: * Indonesia: Grand Mufti Shaykh al-Hadith Abdul Qadir Hassan Bangil son of Hassan Bandung.
64.142.90.33 (talk) 02:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Indonesia

message: Not wiki-linked. Removed from the Grand Mufti page, pending having his own page.
* United States of America: Head Mufti Muhammad Qamar ul-Hasan Bastawi al-Qadri 
64.142.90.33 (talk) 03:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: United States

message: None of these are wiki-linked. They have been removed from the Grand Mufti page, pending having their own pages.
* Pakistan: Grand Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani, the first Grand Mufti of Pakistan and founder of Darul Uloom Karachi, also served as the Grand Mufti Of Darul Uloom Deoband until the partition of United India, before he moved to Pakistan.
* Pakistan: Grand Mufti Zain ul Abideen leader of Tablighi Jamaat
* Pakistan: Grand Mufti Wali Hasan Tonki, spirtual disciple of Shaykhul Hadith Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi, was based at Banuri Town seminary.
* Pakistan: Grand Mufti Rasheed Ahmad Ludhyanwi, student of Shaykhul Islam Husain Ahmad Madani and founder of Jamiatur Rasheed.
64.142.90.33 (talk) 03:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pakistan (Deobandi school of thought) 

message: Not wiki-linked. Removed from the Grand Mufti page, pending having his own page.
* Bulgaria: Grand Mufti Dr. Mustafa Hadji
64.142.90.33 (talk) 03:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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message: Current grant mufti in India is Mufti Muhammed Asjed Rasa Khan, Here it is mentioned rongly, please correct it 
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bareilly/mufti-asjad-raza-conferred-with-qadi-al-qudaat-title/articleshow/68677678.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIDesktop Asmkparalikkunnu (talk) 17:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The source does not use the term "Grand Mufti". The same publication used the term "Grand Mufti" when Musliyar was selected only 2 months ago.https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kozhikode/kanthapuram-selected-grand-mufti-of-india/articleshow/68175547.cms I can't find any other recent source mentioning Asjad Raza. – Þjarkur (talk) 00:11, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
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message: Muhammed Akhtar Raza Khan Azhari is the grand mufti of India  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhtar_Raza_Khan 74.82.60.174 (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Þjarkur (talk) 17:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 April 2019 

message: Grand Mufti Of Nepal 49.126.204.33 (talk) 16:05, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Þjarkur (talk) 16:15, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 May 2019 

message: There is no official position of Grand Mufti in Pakistan and neither do neutral sources add Grand Mufti before his name. Grand Mufti title is a mere honorary one used by followers of the subject. Requesting that his name be removed from the list.
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:::::: and any neutral and reliable source does not mention him as a Grand Mufti. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 09:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Muneeb-ur-Rehman]]

message: More citation are needed for the current Grand Mufti holders of Bangladesh, Mauritania, New Zealand, South Africa and Zimbabwe. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 00:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @:   I think I can understand the reasoning here for Bangladesh & Mauritania however the additional citation requirement for the remainder is unclear and I would be grateful if the reasoning can be elaborated.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  More than a dozen sources to prove Muneeb as the Grand Mufti of Pakistan but you removed it from Wikipedia without proper reasons. At the same time, you are trying to keep some other people whose status has not been confirmed yet. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 10:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @: IF you have a specific WP:V source that defines Muneeb as "Grant Mufti" of Pakistan I am happy for support for that re-instatement.  I am somewhat concerned the previous source for Muneeb did not attribute him directly as "The " Mufti for the state as opposed to a "Mufti" of the state.  The key start point in this would I believe the definition of who is eligible for the list: essentially defined by "The Grand Mufti (also called Chief Mufti, State Mufti and Supreme Mufti) is the head of regional muftis, Islamic jurisconsults, of a state.".  The issue I see from my translation of the Ahmed Ould Murabit Mauritania entry was there was only reference to "Mufti" and not as "Grand Mufti" but my translation would be imperfect.  I am of the opinion, given a neutral fictional state of Sodor,  References to "Grand Mufti Fred of Sodor" or "The Mufti of Sodor" (implying one) would make for an eligible entry whereas "Mufti Fred of Sodor" would not as there could be more that one.  The definition also seems to allow for a particular position in state that would imply the office holder is equivalent to "Grand Mufti" or "Chief Mufti" but tha is a little more tricky and sooner or later something will be borderline.  Yes, Longer term unsourced entries will likely be removed from the list; but I'd hate to see that if there is an unreliable definition.  Option might be to include some Islamic states where no "Grand Mufti" can be described.  To get back to your question to me I observer some of the entries for lines where you claim More citation needed" seem to attribute the relevant person to be "Grand Mufti" so I am curious as to the reasoning.  It may be further discussion is needed and assistance from WP:WikiProject Islam for guidance and arbitration if necessary.Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Grand Mufti is the highest Islamic religious authority of a country or state. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 19:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @ you may be right there, and you may be wrong, though I think at first look your definition may be closer to the those of the current article sources than how it is currently put in the article.  But I need to look at this several times.  What I am thinking is really important is that having a precise definition of Grand Mufti agreed by consensus is essential for determining what should be in the list.  Thankyou.01:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

text: neutral sources do not name him as Grand Mufti (I have added a number of resources including dawn.com) . A few use it as mark of respect, it is also used by BBC for Mufti Taqi Usmani and some others for Mufti Rafi Usmani. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 15:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: As far as I can make out there are two claims for Grand Mufti of India, probably as explained by , which is why a ding-dong is occuring over who the Grand Mufti of India is.  Rather than having a running edit war can the completing claims be placed here in a way people with no knowledge of the background of the claims can understand.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't dispute here but at Talk:Grand Mufti of India#Current Grand Mufti of India Dispute.  thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Grand Mufti of India Dispute 

message: I am almost zero at fixing tables. Can someone add Bashir-ud-din Farooqi as Grand Mufti of Jammu and Kashmir - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 09:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: (1) I would certainly like a source before adding in.  (2) Because of the controversy and recent controversy of the status of this state ... (I believe Special status until 2019 etc) I'm a tad reluctant to simply wade in myself.  If there is a rough consensus I'd be happy to help.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  That sorry. There are numerous sources along with those mentioned in the main article. Greater Kashmir, reliable independent newspaper of state, Business Standard, Outlook India, Tribune India, The Daily Siyasat and page 177 of this academic study - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

text:  The study is entitled DEVELOPMENT OFILM al'FIQH IN KASHMIR and can be easily searched through google. I do not think that the status of Grand Mufti of Kashmir is having any problem, as regarding to consensus. No one else, Deobandi or Barelwi is known with this title. I would collect more facts if time permits. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 11:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Mufti of Jammu and Kashmir

message: - DeeZyL (talk) 12:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:32, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
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message: There is a citation needed tag on Zulkifli Mohamad Al-Bakri's entry as Mufti of the Federal Territories. I have found these three references for that:
* https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020/05/17/um-lecturer-appointed-as-new-ft-mufti
* https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2020/03/12/from-mufti-to-minister-who-is-zulkifli-mohamad-the-islamic-scholar-now-in-p/1845584
* https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2020/03/573207/zulkifli-first-mufti-be-appointed-cabinet-minister
I was trying to add the references myself, but the page is protected. Merzash (talk) 05:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysia - Zulkifli Mohamad Al-Bakri 

message: South Africa has no grand mufti	Yasin Muhammad Yaqeenullah made himself the grand mufti because he likes the title please change this section and list none in south africa
outh Africa has no grand mufti	Yasin Muhammad Yaqeenullah made himself the grand mufti because he likes the title please change this section and list none in south africa 41.144.75.214 (talk) 15:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  17:14, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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message: The South African grand Mufti is incorrect. There is no official grand Mufti of South Africa 197.185.99.64 (talk) 07:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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message: Saqlainism (talk) 17:31, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 17:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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message: Grand Mufti of South Africa is Hazrat Mufti Akbar Hazarvi Sayedrm786 (talk) 19:15, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:20, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 July 2021 

message: Grand mufti of South Africa is Abdurragmaan Khan
https://mjc.org.za/2021/10/12/moulana-abdurragmaan-khan-as-new-mufti-of-the-mjc-sa/
Who can correct this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.153.197.44 (talk) 00:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry - I personally am not going to implement this as the (White, 2021) article does not make it 100% clear to me Khan is the sole mufti on the SA MJC ... ie the Grand Mufti. I ma therefore personally not going to make the change at this time.  Please ask at WP:TEAHOUSE for further assistance.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Africa December 2021 

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message: The US entry says that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Abdul_Aziz (??) is the Grand Mufti of the United States. I can't correct it because I don't know who or whether there is another real mufti. 96.241.26.70 (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: just remove it, theres no "grand mufti of the US" whatsoever NorthTension (talk) 11:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  United States Page Vandalism?