Talk:Kiwa hirsuta

message: I'm not sure we need all these news reports from various different news agencies. Firstly, they're all the same, and secondly, they only repeat information available in the actual publication (which is linked). I therefore propose to remove all but one, and have the Zoosystema publication as the only other reference, without in-line linking, because it's of general relevance to the article. --Stemonitis 08:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd overlooked the expedition site when I said "only other". But still, I'd get rid of most of them. --Stemonitis 08:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not read the publication in detail (it is very thorough, but the biological terminology is a bit heavy for me) but I did not notice some of the facts there that I found in the BBC report - the name "Yeti lobster"; the information about bacteria in the setae.   The Fox and Yahoo reports do not add anything, though, as far as I can see.  -- ALoan (Talk) 11:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Kiwa is a Māori word. Kiwa is a Māori god - the guardian of the sea. I saw the references at the time to Kiwa hirsutus being named after a 'Polynesian goddess named Kiwa'. All I can say is in all the Māori sources I can find, Kiwa is male. He had at least two wives - among his grandchildren are fish and crustaceans. The name Kiwa can only be Māori - it would be different in ALL other Polynesian languages - some have no 'k', replacing it with a glottal stop, nearly all others (except Hawaiian) have no 'w' - replacing it with a 'v'. Hawaiian has 'k' and 'w', but the Hawaiian 'k' is cognate with the Māori 't', Hawaiian having replaced the original Polynesian 'k' with a glottal stop, so that the Hawaiian equivalent of kiwa would be  'iwa. We are finding a lot of the Polynesian mythology stubs on Wikipedia to be inaccurate (often on multiple levels) by the way. Most of them were started by TUF-KAT in 2002 using Encyclopedia Mythica as a source. By the way I have emailed the team that discovered K. hirsuta to ask them where they got their info. Still waiting for a response. Maybe they will have to make the name masculine: K. hirsutus! Kahuroa 21:47, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  perspective of a Māori linguist 

message: I received a reply from a member of the team that named Kiwa hirsuta. Quote:
:::"Dear colleague, thanks for your message. We use the name Kiwa after the Encyclopedia Mythica. It was the only one available some months ago. I assumed that Encyclopedia Mythica was a serious work.
Regards."''
Encyclopedia mythica  is, of course, on Oceanic mythology in general and on Polynesian mythology in particular, woefully unreliable. I guess this shows how important it is to get things right on the web. Kahuroa 10:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact we have already clarified the etymology in some recent press comments. Unfortunately, most press releases were made before the mistake was detected. I will try to modify the etymology in the web site (MBARI, IFREMER, etc,).
I am pleased with this attitude Kahuroa 10:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming of Kiwa hirsuta

message: Who gave this article an A-Class rating? It's certainly a good article (but a Good Article? I'm not so sure...), but it's only five paragraphs long. Though the article is about a very new species, is it really as comprehensive as it could be? -- Kicking222 16:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it isn't comprehensive. It's missing details of how and why the public reacted to the routine discovery of another species with a media circus, the controversy over whether it is more closely related to hermit crabs than the Galatheidae, and the taxonomic studies which are both molecular and morphological. There are also rumors of a second species. DrKiernan (talk) 15:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A-Class?

message: What are epibiotic bacteria  ? 15:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope for another article