Talk:Love Actually

message: did harry actually(no pun intended) have an affair  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helicopter tours (talk • contribs) 18:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most viewers are left with the impression Harry and Mia didn't actually sleep together, although we're never told whether they did or not. Jess Cully (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I assumed that it was an emotional betrayal, not a physical one, but could've led to that if they hadn't been 'found out'. Sky83 (talk) 16:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: quick question

message: Is the character of Sarah supposed to be an American working and living in London?  Someone mentioned this in conversation, but I did not remember this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.199.241 (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Only a few minutes of this long film involves Sarah's story. She has an American accent; she works and lives in London. The most likely scenario, by far, is that she and her brother are American immigrants. However, I don't believe anything was stated about her life, apart from 'there are no parents now', which probably means that they are both dead; viewers never hear her brother speak. F W Nietzsche (talk) 01:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to watch the film again. In the first scene of them together her brother tells her that the nurses are trying to kill him and she says that they aren't. MarnetteD | Talk 05:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

text: This storyline is believable in the way that it is presented which is quite brief as you say. There could be any number of backstories that would explain why she feels that she must sacrifice an outside life. I'm not quite sure what race has to do with it but it should be pointed out that not everyone in the world who is successful and attractive is selfish. MarnetteD | Talk 05:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Having a life of one's own is not "selfish."  Sarah is not a caring sister, she is a martyr.  The problem is, the only kind of love the film seems to understand is some kind of completely over-the-top obsessive love.  That Sarah could love her brother deeply, while trusting him most of the time to institutional care as she enjoys her life, seems unacceptable to the film-maker. Slrubenstein   |  Talk 01:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sarah 

message: The section Harry, Karen, and Mia states that the wife died of 'cancer'. The section Daniel and Carol; Sam and Joanna states that she died of an 'unspecifed long-term illness'. I don't remember the cause of her death, or the duration of it, ever being stated. In any case, the two sections contradict each other - either the cause was stated or it wasn't. F W Nietzsche (talk) 02:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Daniel's wife

message: Why here is no storyline of Daniel and Sam?  AATS (talk  09:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is, see Love Actually#Daniel and Carol; Sam and Joanna. Garion96 (talk) 10:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel and Sam 

message: I think the line "She immediately understands Harry is having an affair" is incorrect, the film implicitly implies (though admitted doesn't overtly state) that Harry does not have an affair and thaty he buys Mia the necklace out of a combination of sexual attraction (though not sex) and bullying. I am rephrasing it as "believes" as I feel this is more reasonable. Gamma2delta (talk) 18:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry/Mia affair? 

message: I don't think there's a need for putting "The ensemble cast is composed of predominantly English actors." People know the film is British. It's like writing "The ensemble cast is composed of predominantly American actors" when we're talking about an American film. Doesn't it sound ludicrous? When something isn't American it's always clarified. No need to put a sentence like that. --Agusk7 (talk) 18:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: English ensemble cast

message: The title of the film is interesting, because it seems to recall Aristotle's philosophical concept of entelechy, which has been used by various philosophers to make a distinction between actual love and potential love. With regards to this, there is one medieval school of thought which posits that love is always actual, meaning that the expresions "Love Actually" and "Actually Love"  are almost synonymous. ADM (talk) 05:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Entelechy

message: One minute of this two hour movie takes place in Wisconsin.  Is that really all it takes to have the category, "Films set in Wisconsin?"62.150.91.20 (talk) 15:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Films set in Wisconsin? 

message: The wording is biased in the production section where it reads, "In 2009, during President Barack Obama's first visit to the UK, Chris Matthews referred to the president in Love Actually as an exemplar of George W. Bush and other former presidents' bullying of European allies."
This sounds as though it is an absolute fact that American Presidents have bullied their European allies, but it is actually the opinion of Chris Matthews.  I think this wording should be corrected to reflect that it is the opinion of Chris Matthews - and perhaps others - but is not necessarily accurate from an historical standpoint.  Perhaps Chris Matthews could be quoted instead which would clarify the situation and be less politically biased.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcwinks (talk • contribs) 04:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bullying by US Presidents 

message: Why state that the cast of this British film "is composed predominantly of British actors"? That is hardly surprising.203.184.41.226 (talk) 06:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly surprisingly, but not necessarily the case. Kdammers (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actors 

message: I'm editing two places where the US President is described as "trying to seduce" Natalie. I find this phrasing too sugar-coated, as it is pretty clear that he was sexually harassing her.--Ibis3 (talk) 04:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual harassment  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Just a small part of the movie, but still a harsh inconsistency of the filmmakers when most viewers see this proposal scene taking place in a Portuguese town and others insist it must be Marseille after this airport has been shown. IMO the scene was shot in the Provence region with a Portuguese cast to make it look like Portugal. --Pakeha (talk) 01:17, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't inconsistent, it isn't in a Portuguese town and it was not shot to make it look like Portugal. It takes place in Marseilles. Many large cities have enclaves where people from another country gather to live and work and have restaurants serving clientele from that country. Take the sequences in order - After he finds his girlfriend sleeping with his brother Jamie goes to his country villa outside of Marseilles to work on his novel - a French woman introduces Aurelia as his new house keeper - each day, after her work is finished, he takes her to her home in Marseilles - when he leaves his extended family in London on Christmas Eve ("We Hate Jamie") he goes back to Marseilles. What would be inconsistent is if Jamie then flew from Marseilles to an unnamed city and neighborhood in Portugal that he has never been told of. You may not like it but the plot is entirely consistent. MarnetteD|Talk 01:35, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: @ . I have just completed my annual Christmas viewing of my DVD and would be unable to disagree with any of 's summary above. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for all the explanations. --Pakeha (talk) 21:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marseille v. Portugal 

message: * "Both Sides, Now" (4:32) Released 1967 * Song by Joni Mitchell from the album Clouds
There are at least two different "2000" recordings of Joni singing BSN:
* studio recording version on BSN album (recorded 1999) released Feb/Mar 2000 - track 12, 5:45
* single released 2000 (exact same as album track?)
: "Both Sides Now" will also be the first single serviced from the project. It goes to triple-A, jazz, adult standards, and NPR stations Feb. 15. (jonimitchell.com/library/print.cfm?id=633)
* live performance April 6, 2000 version:
: "In tribute to Mitchell, the TNT network presented an all-star celebration at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City on April 6, 2000. Mitchell's songs were sung by many performers... Mitchell herself ended the evening with a rendition of "Both Sides Now" with a 70-piece orchestra.[94] The version was featured on the soundtrack to the movie Love Actually."
* The last part of this article lede sentence therefore may be mistaken:
: "She re-recorded the song in a lusher, orchestrated version for her 2000 album Both Sides Now; this version was subsequently featured on the soundtrack to the 2003 film Love Actually."
There are at least three appearances of BSN song associated with the movie Love Actually (2003): the inclusion within the movie (1:25); featured within a bonus extra on the movie DVD (about 2min); on the movie soundtrack album (track 9, 5:46). 
* movie inclusion:
: Both Sides Now *  Joni Mitchell
: 1:25   Karen gets the CD as a present. She puts on this song and cries in her room. Meanwhile Mia tries on the necklace in her room.
These three may or may not be identical. Do they all actually derive from the TNT April 6, 2000 performance, not the BSN album studio track?-71.174.190.122 (talk) 16:47, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Both Sides Now - multiple 2000 Joni recordings 

message: Why did you undo the edit about the Claudia Schiffer cameo? By what criteria do you establish that some content is "(not needed)"?
--MirelesJ (talk) 20:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Your ping did not work because you did not sign your post. The item is not sourced so it is WP:OR as it stands. It is cute but not really part of the plot. You might mention it with a source in the production/cast section. MarnetteD|Talk 22:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claudia Schiffer cameo 

message: *
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional sources 

message: Regarding this edit  has a point that, since they aren't seen filming the scenes, body doubles isn't the right description to use. OTOH I'm not sure that stand ins is the right term either. They aren't going to replace the main actors if they get sick or can't film for some other reason. I think there is a term for this kind of job but I can't think of it at the moment. If anyone else can think of it then we can update the page. If not I'm okay with leaving it as it is as well. MarnetteD|Talk 21:22, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is exactly what they were doing. From stand-in, "a person who substitutes for the actor before filming, for technical purposes such as lighting and camera setup". Stand-ins usually don't replace the actual actors on camera. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 22:27, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah - my mistake - I was only thinking of stand in in relation to stage acting. Thanks for pointing this out . Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 23:27, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Stand-in' is the term used in the 'Interconnections between the Love Actually characters' graphic. -- Jmc (talk) 03:36, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Is there a better term?

message: On the NPR radio program on Christmas Eve 2023, it was mentioned that the film has become controversial due to, i.a., stereotypes.  Should this be added (with examples cited by second sources) to the reception section? Kdammers (talk) 18:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy