Talk:Michael Brown Okinawa assault incident

message: In the current shape I can see, no major problems are spotted that strictly denies the article from. However, there are a few fixes that I feel can be completed in a short while. So I'm putting this on-hold.
Have a look at the checklist.
:GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
#It is stable.
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#It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
#:a (tagged and captioned):  b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
#Overall: 
#:a Pass/Fail: 
--Deryck C.review my hometown! 07:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Combining all of the footnotes in a single citation at the end of each paragraph is acceptable.  I've done it in two articles that I've successfully nominated for Featured Article:  Actions along the Matanikau and B-52 aircraft crash at Fairchild Air Force Base.  Having all the citations at the end of each paragraph helps the text look smoother.  I did, however, combine two of the footnotes as you suggested since they were duplicates.  What do you mean by "contents in the websites section incorporated into the footnotes wherever content is duplicated?" CLA 23:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed that section. CLA 23:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I wish that I could read Japanese so that I could reference the Japanese-language press.  Unfortunately, I don't.  But, I did use some Kyodo News sources which is a Japanese news agency that produces English language reports.  The Chalmers Johnson reference gives a view from an outside academic observer.  Therefore, I feel the article is presenting the story from different sides fairly well. CLA 23:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I addressed your comments above.  Thank you for the in-depth review and constructive feedback. CLA 23:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought some of the contents of the "Notes" and the "Web" sections are duplicated? At any rate, these minor points are beyond the reach of GA. I'm going to promote this article. --Deryck C. 14:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a question - does any of the items from the two abovesaid sections overlap each other? --Deryck C. 10:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review

message: Why is there a photo of the "View of Naha, Okinawa from the bridge of a United States Navy cargo ship." in this article?  It seems incongruous and irrelevant to the topic.  I hesitate in making any edit in case there is some relevancy that escapes me.  Cheers
64.172.226.100 (talk) 22:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I needed a picture of Naha, Okinawa and that was the only public domain image I could find.  Since the article concerns, in part, the relationship between the US military and Okinawa, I thought it was interesting also to show a picture of Naha as seen from the deck of a US military ship. Cla68 (talk) 00:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question regarding image 

message: I think this article needs to mention if any disciplinary action was taken against Maj Brown.  I find it hard to believe that an incident such as this only incurred a transfer to another base.  For completeness of the article this does need to be addressed.  Mikemill 06:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After Michael Brown returned to the U.S., he requested to retire but it was put on hold while the USMC decided if they were going to take any disciplinary action against him or not.  During this time, Brown was arrested in 2005 and charged with assault and kidnapping a young girl in West Virginia.  He was jailed while awaiting trial.  I haven't been able to find any sources that say what has happened with him since then. Cla68 09:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: New information added. Cla68 (talk) 07:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated this information today. I think that we'll need to keep an eye on this, because according to the newspaper article, while the subject's charges are in West Virginia, he's been released on bond with the condition that he does not travel to or through the state. If that's right, given the fact that the charges are almost three years old, one has to wonder if there is any intent to actually prosecute. If they're dismissed, I think we would need to get most of this out of the article on BLP concerns. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if the charges are dismissed we'll probably need to remove mention of it from the article.  Thanks for updating the info. Cla68 (talk) 15:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brown "was at the time 39 years old, was married with two small children" and he says he fondled Nakamine who "was 40 years old, and originally from the Philippines, had lived in Okinawa for 17 years, and was married to a Japanese citizen of Okinawan descent". Does adultery considered as a crime in US army or in the state where he live. Also out of nowhere over 12.000 dollars for the bartender is highly suspicious. Kasaalan (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  USMC Disciplinary Action? 

message: I must question the inclusion of the "Subsequent arrest and conviction" section in this article.  The incidents recounted occurred several years later, and appear to be included simply to elaborate on (here, denigrate) the character of the accused.  While I have no sympathy for rapists, there's a reason for the relevance test.  It's like referring to a cabinet nominee as "a former cocktail waitress", except that this occurred afterwards.
--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 21:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subsequent arrest and conviction 

message: After reading this article and the U.S.-Japan Status of Forces Agreement article, I think it would be a good idea to move at least most of this article's "SOFA Controversy" section to the actual SOFA agreement page. The section isn't too specific towards the article and the actual SOFA agreement doesn't have a controversy section of which I found surprising.--NortyNort (talk) 08:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree with moving the SOFA controversy section to the main SOFA article except that the current controversy section is 615 words long and would clearly overshadow the current 147 word SOFA article. Any semblance of WP:NPOV gets lost meaning someone would need to either figure out how to bulk up the SOFA section or would need to slash the controversy section down to ~100 words in the name of neutrality. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I was surprised how small the SOFA article was to begin with, it hardly has any edits. I found a copy of the agreement here. I can summarize it within a few paragraphs/sections. This isn't my area of expertise but ill try to pull the important stuff out.--NortyNort (talk) 09:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOFA Controversy Section...move it? 

message: The text of this edit in the "subsequent arrest and conviction" section is almost a verbatim copy of a passage from this source. Could use some reworking. :( --68.174.252.128 (talk) 05:20, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I fixed this after 9 or so years. Moneytrees🎄Talk/CCI guide  21:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation? 

message: The "Subsequent arrest and conviction" section documents events a continent away and 14 months after this article's last stated event and therefore beyond this article's current scope.  Further, aforesaid section fails notability when considered alone, having only secondary notability from this article's topic, which, as such, is appropriate only within the perpetrator's biography. – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 02:18, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete section: Subsequent arrest and conviction 

message: The Japanese legal system is notoriously slow. But I do not believe that there was a 19 month long trial. Perhaps a wait of 19 months before the trial.Royalcourtier (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of trial 

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