Wikipedia talk:Featured article statistics

message: These statistics don't take into account that we have 87 featured lists. Factoring in those, the percentage of "featured content" would be closer to 0.1%. Coffee 14:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured lists

message: Just a thought.. one article is featured on the Main Page per day, so presuming that we don't want to duplicate any, we need the delta-FA for any day to average to at least 1. Over the last year (June 2005 - May 2006) the delta-FA is 371, so it's barely above 1. There is, of course, a buffer of quite a number of FAs which have not been used though. -- Mithent 01:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Main page

message: Is there any place to find out how many featured articles there were in previous years? Xaxafrad 14:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There were no FAs prior to January of 2004. Raul654 16:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But didn't the Brilliant prose category serve a similar purpose? As an aside does anyone have any idea which article was the first to receive FA/Brilliant Prose status? Lisiate 01:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The very, very first revision of wikipedia:featured articles (here) dates back to Larry Sanger in 2001. I recognize the articles in the list in that revision as forming the core of the Brilliant Prose articles. Raul654 02:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older stats 

message: Is there some easy way to see this broken out into # promoted and # demoted?  I know how to find both the number promoted and the list of articles in question but I am more intrested in a log of which articles were demoted in which months.  Is this avalible somehwere? Dalf | Talk 05:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd imagine the archives for the newly promoted FACs and demoted FARs. Raul654 08:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA delta 

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This chart is overall size, not readable prose per WP:SIZE.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Update below.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart

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:*Fantastic work - many thanks! - Gobeirne (talk) 02:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart

message: FA size as of December 2010
==== Ten largest as of 2010 ====
# Elvis Presley (99 kB)
# Yom Kippur War (98 kB) defeatured
# Ketuanan Melayu (96 kB) defeatured
# Nikita Khrushchev (94 kB)
# Albert Kesselring (94 kB) defeatured
# Society of the Song Dynasty (90 kB)
# Ming Dynasty (90 kB)
# Byzantine navy (88 kB)
# Tang Dynasty (85 kB)
# Military history of Australia during World War II (85 kB)
==== Ten shortest as of 2010 ====
# Miss Meyers (4 kB)
# Tropical Depression Ten (2005) (4 kB) defeatured
# Tropical Storm Erick (2007) (4 kB) defeatured
# 2005 Azores subtropical storm (5 kB)
# Nico Ditch (5 kB)
# Tropical Storm Brenda (1960) (5 kB)
# Hurricane Irene (2005) (5 kB)
# North Road (football ground) (6 kB)
# MissingNo. (6 kB)
# Bam Thwok (6 kB) defeatured
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article size as of December 2010 

message: # Miss Meyers (4 kB)
# Tropical Depression Ten (2005) (4 kB) defeatured
# Tropical Storm Erick (2007) (4 kB) defeatured
# 2005 Azores subtropical storm (5 kB)
# Nico Ditch (5 kB)
# Tropical Storm Brenda (1960) (5 kB)
# Hurricane Irene (2005) (5 kB)
# North Road (football ground) (6 kB)
# MissingNo. (6 kB)
# Bam Thwok (6 kB) defeatured
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ten shortest as of 2010 

message: Sandy, Rick Block, Gimmetrow, and myself have finished auditing this page (the grunt work was done at the now-deleted user:Raul54/test). The numbers are more accurate and (for the FA proportion) more precise. Raul654 14:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Clicking on an end of month diff may result in a different FA count than shown in this chart; the numbers on this chart are accurate.  If clicking on FA promotions or FA demotions yields a different number than shown in the chart, please let us know, as that could indicate vandalism or another problem; those numbers should match the archives exactly.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Outstanding work, folks. Thanks for taking the time and energy to get these stats clean-up - much appreciated. -- MarcoTolo 03:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page audit

message: From first iteration, I checked them all for oldest FA:
* At FAR (Nov 2007)
** Anno Domini
* No FAR as of Nov 2007
** Comet
** Prisoner's dilemma defeatured April 2008
** Rudyard Kipling
* Passed FAR
**  ASCII Passed FAR December 2005 (at FAR April 2008)
** Greek Mythology Passed FAR November 2006 
** Punk rock Passed FAR January 2007 
** Byzantine Empire Passed FAR July 2007 
I didn't check article history in between the first December 2001 iteration of WP:FA and the January 2004 RefrshingBrilliantProse (RBP); that would be way too much work since there are no good records and it would involved stepping through WP:FA diffs one at a time.  So, if any of these article were defeatured and re-featured between Dec 2001 and Jan 2004, I didn't pick that up. (Kudos to Yannismarou and Ceoil for maintaining Wiki's oldest FAs to current standards!)  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Updated. SandyGeorgia (Talk)  02:00, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest continuous FA 

message: === FACs and FARs by year ===
Year	FACPromoted	FAC Archived	Total	% Promoted	FARdemoted
2021	325        	153         	478  	68.0%     	178
2020	268        	158         	426  	62.9%     	64
2019	280        	131         	411  	68.1%     	14
2018	235        	147         	382  	61.5%     	29
2017	338        	125         	463  	73.0%     	12
2016	227        	138         	365  	62.2%     	11
2015	303        	182         	485  	62.5%     	51
2014	322        	183         	505  	63.8%     	24
2013	390        	261         	651  	59.9%     	29
2012	375        	261         	636  	59.0%     	39
2011	355        	310         	665  	53.4%     	47
2010	513        	412         	925  	55.5%     	115
2009	522        	469         	991  	52.7%     	157
2008	719        	609         	1,328	54.1%     	143
2007	773        	706         	1,479	52.3%     	192
2006	560        	920         	1,480	37.8%     	201
2005	437        	682         	1,119	39.1%     	61
===Promoted and archived FACs by month ===
FACs by Month 	Promoted	Archived	Total	% Promoted
Subtotal 2020 	268     	158     	426  	62.9%
Subtotal 2019 	280     	131     	411  	68.1%
Subtotal 2018 	235     	147     	382  	61.5%
Subtotal 2017 	338     	125     	463  	73.0%
Subtotal 2016 	227     	138     	365  	62.2%
Subtotal 2015 	303     	182     	485  	62.5%
Subtotal 2014 	322     	183     	505  	63.8%
Subtotal 2013 	390     	261     	651  	59.9%
Subtotal 2012 	375     	261     	636  	59.0%
Subtotal 2011 	355     	310     	665  	53.4%
Subtotal 2010 	513     	412     	925  	55.5%
Subtotal 2009 	522     	469     	991  	52.7%
Subtotal 2008 	719     	609     	1,328	54.1%
Subtotal 2007 	773     	706     	1,479	52.3%
Subtotal 2006 	560     	920     	1,480	37.8%
Subtotal 2005 	437     	682     	1,119	39.1%
              	        	        	     	
December 2014 	12      	24      	36   	33.3
November 2014 	23      	12      	35   	65.7%
October 2014  	24      	8       	32   	75.0%
September 2014	23      	18      	41   	56.1%
August 2014   	37      	14      	51   	72.5%
July 2014     	27      	16      	43   	62.8%
June 2014     	30      	13      	43   	69.8%
May 2014      	36      	17      	53   	67.9%
April 2014    	27      	12      	39   	69.2%
March 2014    	31      	19      	50   	62.0%
February 2014 	19      	10      	29   	65.5%
January 2014  	33      	20      	53   	62.3%
Subtotal 2014 	322     	183     	505  	63.8%
              	        	        	     	
December 2013 	22      	12      	34   	64.7%
November 2013 	34      	21      	55   	61.8%
October 2013  	31      	24      	55   	56.4%
September 2013	35      	22      	57   	61.4%
August 2013   	44      	30      	74   	59.5%
July 2013     	37      	34      	71   	52.1% g
June 2013     	36      	11      	47   	76.6%
May 2013      	45      	27      	72   	62.5%
April 2013    	25      	15      	40   	62.5%
March 2013    	42      	26      	68   	61.8%
February 2013 	14      	12      	26   	53.8%
January 2013  	25      	27      	52   	48.1%
Subtotal 2013 	390     	261     	651  	59.9%
              	        	        	     	
December 2012 	24      	20      	44   	54.5%
November 2012 	36      	21      	57   	63.2%
October 2012  	37      	16      	53   	69.8%
September 2012	39      	27      	66   	59.1%
August 2012   	38      	28      	66   	57.6%
July 2012     	30      	23      	53   	56.6%
June 2012     	26      	18      	44   	59.1%
May 2012      	28      	17      	45   	62.2%
April 2012    	23      	13      	36   	63.9%
March 2012    	34      	25      	59   	57.6%
February 2012 	31      	22      	53   	58.5% f
January 2012  	29      	31      	60   	48.3%
Subtotal 2012 	375     	261     	636  	59.0%
              	        	        	     	
December 2011 	24      	19      	43   	55.8%
November 2011 	13      	16      	29   	44.8%
October 2011  	25      	27      	52   	48.1% e
September 2011	22      	43      	65   	33.8%
August 2011   	32      	22      	54   	59.3%
July 2011     	36      	35      	71   	50.1%
June 2011     	31      	22      	53   	58.5%
May 2011      	37      	29      	66   	56.1%
April 2011    	31      	26      	57   	54.4%
March 2011    	33      	30      	63   	52.4%
February 2011 	29      	21      	50   	58.0%
January 2011  	42      	20      	62   	67.8%
Subtotal 2011 	355     	310     	665  	53.4%
              	        	        	     	
December 2010 	30      	24      	54   	55.6%
November 2010 	27      	26      	53   	50.9% d
October 2010  	27      	25      	52   	51.9%
September 2010	50      	53      	103  	48.5%
August 2010   	55      	29      	84   	65.5%
July 2010     	54      	33      	87   	62.1%
June 2010     	39      	29      	68   	57.4%
May 2010      	45      	33      	78   	57.7%
April 2010    	43      	49      	92   	46.7%
March 2010    	45      	34      	79   	57.0%
February 2010 	47      	27      	74   	63.5% c
January 2010  	51      	50      	101  	50.5%
Subtotal 2010 	513     	412     	925  	55.5%
              	        	        	     	
December 2009 	27      	42      	69   	39.1%
November 2009 	41      	34      	75   	54.7%
October 2009  	52      	40      	92   	56.5%
September 2009	49      	25      	74   	66.2%
August 2009   	44      	34      	78   	56.4%
July 2009     	35      	34      	69   	50.7%
June 2009     	52      	41      	93   	55.9%
May 2009      	44      	38      	82   	53.7%
April 2009    	39      	47      	86   	45.4%
March 2009    	50      	39      	89   	56.2% b
February 2009 	41      	37      	78   	52.6%
January 2009  	48      	58      	106  	45.3%
Subtotal 2009 	522     	469     	991  	52.7%
              	        	        	     	
December 2008 	53      	42      	95   	55.8%
November 2008 	33      	25      	58   	56.9%
October 2008  	54      	56      	110  	49.1%
September 2008	59      	43      	102  	57.8%
August 2008   	63      	49      	112  	56.3%
July 2008     	56      	44      	100  	56.0%
June 2008     	59      	48      	107  	55.1%
May 2008      	54      	53      	107  	50.5%
April 2008    	61      	59      	120  	50.8%
March 2008    	76      	68      	144  	52.8% a
February 2008 	69      	60      	129  	53.5%
January 2008  	82      	62      	144  	56.9%
Subtotal 2008 	719     	609     	1,328	54.1%
              	        	        	     	
December 2007 	68      	65      	133  	51.1%
November 2007 	81      	64      	145  	55.9%
October 2007  	45      	41      	86   	52.3%
September 2007	76      	54      	130  	58.5%
August 2007   	62      	55      	117  	53.0%
July 2007     	70      	62      	132  	53.0%
June	2007     	73      	72      	145  	50.3%
May 2007      	56      	49      	105  	53.3%
April 2007    	53      	61      	114  	46.5%
March 2007    	88      	74      	162  	54.3%
February 2007 	52      	40      	92   	56.5%
January 2007  	49      	69      	118  	41.5%
Subtotal 2007 	773     	706     	1,479	52.3%
              	        	        	     	
December 2006 	50      	76      	126  	39.7%
November 2006 	65      	70      	135  	48.1%
October 2006  	44      	77      	121  	36.4%
September 2006	47      	71      	118  	39.8%
August 2006   	50      	78      	128  	39.1%
July 2006     	53      	107     	160  	33.1%
June 2006     	43      	83      	126  	34.1%
May 2006      	47      	73      	120  	39.2%
April 2006    	39      	88      	127  	30.7%
March 2006    	44      	76      	120  	36.7%
February 2006 	35      	57      	92   	38.0%
January 2006  	43      	64      	107  	40.2%
Subtotal 2006 	560     	920     	1,480	37.8%
              	        	        	     	
December 2005 	36      	68      	104  	34.6%
November 2005 	37      	75      	112  	33.0%
October 2005  	34      	47      	81   	42.0%
September 2005	37      	56      	93   	39.8%
August 2005   	45      	68      	113  	39.8%
July 2005     	37      	49      	86   	43.0%
June 2005     	40      	46      	86   	46.5%
May 2005      	33      	58      	91   	36.3%
April 2005    	30      	56      	86   	34.9%
March 2005    	47      	47      	94   	50.0%
February 2005 	37      	56      	93   	39.8%
January 2005  	24      	56      	80   	30.0%
Subtotal 2005 	437     	682     	1,119	39.1%
              	        	        	     	
a User:Ealdgyth began checking every source on every FAC
b Sourcing requirements tightened
c Nominations instructions tightened
d Copyvio reviews tightened following October 31, 2010 TFA of Grace Sherwood (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Plagiarism and copyright concerns on the main page)
e Debate on "vital articles" and "high page view" FAs begins. 
f  Wikipedia:Featured articles/2012 RfC on FA leadership
g  FA Director position eliminated
h 1f, compliant with copyright policy added
=== Discussion===
: Would anyone like to help update this chart? We should footnote when stricter sourcing requirements were added to WP:WIAFA.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help - just to be very clear, where do you get the stats or the numbers used for the stats? Thanks for doing this, btw. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 17:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks!  You can find them at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations. I'll stay out of the way until you ping me, so we don't edit conflict.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Note, date of change to crit 1c.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I finished 2008, but was not sure about the superscript. I always was not sure how to 56.25%. Is this OK? Wnated to check before I did more. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 02:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! Give me a minute and I'll check now.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  All yours now-- thank you so much for helping with this!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm sure you got totals OK--I'll review when done.  Link to the archives, oh my gosh, only if it's not too much work.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am doing totals and percentages with a spreadsheet, so they will be correct unless I mistyped something. Since the promoted FAs are given by month to Oct. 2003, but the archived FACs only are given by month to April 2004 (with aggregates before), how do you want to handle those? Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 21:33, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Nah, I think we're good with this-- thanks SO much for the help!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promote/archive stats

message: : Would anyone like to help update this chart? We should footnote when stricter sourcing requirements were added to WP:WIAFA.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help - just to be very clear, where do you get the stats or the numbers used for the stats? Thanks for doing this, btw. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 17:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks!  You can find them at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations. I'll stay out of the way until you ping me, so we don't edit conflict.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Note, date of change to crit 1c.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I finished 2008, but was not sure about the superscript. I always was not sure how to 56.25%. Is this OK? Wnated to check before I did more. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 02:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! Give me a minute and I'll check now.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  All yours now-- thank you so much for helping with this!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm sure you got totals OK--I'll review when done.  Link to the archives, oh my gosh, only if it's not too much work.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am doing totals and percentages with a spreadsheet, so they will be correct unless I mistyped something. Since the promoted FAs are given by month to Oct. 2003, but the archived FACs only are given by month to April 2004 (with aggregates before), how do you want to handle those? Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 21:33, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Nah, I think we're good with this-- thanks SO much for the help!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion

message: :cross-posted to WT:FA, please comment in general over there, and add more stats here.
Has anyone ever kept track of stats on types of featured articles and topics? For example, I've done some analysis at User:Carcharoth/Featured articles needing regular updates. The list of living people featured articles was obtained with the Cat Scan tool, though the raw list was filtered to focus on single-person biographies. The results (as of 23 February 2008) were:
*Of 1906 featured articles, 436 were about people or groups of people.
*Of these, 33 were about music groups, leaving 403 single-person biographies (21%)
*Of these, 80 were about living people
Would it be worth having a "biography" section at WP:FA? Carcharoth (talk) 02:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we organize FA by topic (including bios) so people interested in a specific topic can browse like articles.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How about suggesting somewhere else to put the list? I'm not trying to be silly here, Sandy, but I've been making what I thought were useful suggestions and analysis around the FA process, and I'm getting the impression that there is some resistance to this from you, or at least some terseness. Do I have to contribute more regularly to reviews to get a better response, or something? For what it is worth, there are biographical encyclopedias out there, so the idea of having a section on "biographies" as a topic is not completely out of left field. Carcharoth (talk) 02:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry if my responses seem terse Carcharoth.  I missed this comment last time through, and only noticed it now that Gimmetrow posted (below).  I admit to being frustrated at following a conversation that's in four places:  the talk pages of WP:FAC, WP:FAR, WP:FA and WP:FAS.  I'm not sure where to suggest you can put the list, because I'm not aware of what types of readers might want to see that specific grouping, particularly considering the other sources of similar info Gimme posted below.  There are so many different and interesting ways of sorting out the FAs that it's hard for me to view bios as having a place any more special than any other grouping.  I often toy with different ideas about how we would divide up the FA list when it becomes necessary, and I can never convince myself for one way any better than any other, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.  I'm also concerned that the title of your list could mislead; as I said at the talk page of WP:FAR, I don't believe that bios necessarily need regular updating any more than several other categories of FAs do.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, Sandy. Sorry if I got a bit frustrated there. I agree the title of my page is a bit misleading now. It was intended as a list of FAs that might need regular updating, but I soon gave up on that idea and got sidetracked into cleaning up the biography list. Gimmetrow points out :Category:FA-Class biography articles, but my point, made several times now, is that that category (like all the WP 1.0 assessment categories, includes featured lists, which I want to separate out. Easily done (eg. using CatScan) but still annoying to have stuff mixed up like that. More specific to WPBiography is the mixing up of group articles (in this case music group articles) with single-person biographies. It is the latter I wanted to extract, and that took a while, especially as the "musicians" category includes both single-person musician biographes and music group "biographies". I suspect this is a historical feature due to the set up of WPBiography being done by Kingboyk, who is involved in music articles. I have no problems with music groups being included in WPBiography, but I do wish they could be filtered out more easily. Music groups are not the only examples of "group" articles, of course, but they are the most common, I think. Carcharoth (talk) 11:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: *My gut feeling (without having done any analysis) is that bios are not unique.  There are probably many subdivisions reaching about 20%, like warfare or history (since these are overlapping, not mutually exclusive categories), so I don't know that bios are unique. But I haven't checked.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks for those links. The former is more what I'm looking for, but as I said, the category system at the moment isn't really clean enough and mixes up various types of "people-related" articles with the more normal "single-person" biographies. Anyway, I have some graphs to upload now! They don't include the biography stats, unfortunately, but maybe later. Carcharoth (talk) 11:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Graphs delayed until later! :-) Carcharoth (talk) 12:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: First, I'm shocked.  I had never actually tallied the numbers, but I thought Warfare and History were the largest categories, and would be the first to require division.  Perhaps they just "look" large because their articles tend to have longer titles?  I had no idea Biology and Medicine was the largest group. (OK, tooting my own horn, and Marskell, Casliber and TimVickers' too :-))  Anyway, next ... it looks like we have the makings of a Dispatch article.  I'll ping Marskell and make sure he's looking in here (I'm not sure he watches this page).  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ps, can we sync this with WP:WBFAN and find what percentage of those in Biology and medicine were nommed by Casliber, Marskell and TimVickers (and anyone else I don't know about)?  I think you've got a WP:FCDW article here.  (FAR saves of Tuberculosis and Schizophrenia go to Tim and Cas, btw.)  Ah, and the Dino guys; they beef that catgory up, what is that number?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An FCDW article? Wow. Please feel free to use the stats for that, but please do double-check my figures. As for the dino articles, I looked at Talk:Acrocanthosaurus and was shocked to see that WikiProject Dinosaurs hadn't updated its assessment tag! In the end, I found a total of 16 that hadn't been updated, which probably means that the WikiProject should get an award for doing more article writing than article assessment! :-) Anyway, the newly updated :Category:FA-Class dinosaurs articles contains 23 featured articles and one list. The rest of the section can be broken down into other subcategories, not for the purpose of browsing, I hasten to add, but to help identify trends and hotspots. I'll do that now for biology and medicine. Carcharoth (talk) 23:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The 161 "biology and medicine" ones are: 67 "animals" (including 28 birds), 28 "general biology", 23 "dinosaurs", 22 "medicine", 11 "people" and 10 "plants" (including one fungus). If that helps. I think it would help to get lists separated out from featured articles in the assessment categories. :Category:FA-Class bird articles has 43 members, but that includes 12 lists, Georg Forster, Archaeopteryx, and Flight feather, a total of 15 that subtracted from the 43 figure yields 28, the number of articles I've labelled "birds". I think the WP:1.0 people did say a while back they were thinking of doing a separate listing or category for featured lists. Indeed :Category:FL-Class articles exists, but it seems the uptake is not 100% yet. maybe that could go in some announcement or report? Carcharoth (talk) 00:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Great!  Can you park it at Wikipedia:FCDW/February 25, 2008 so everyone participating at WP:FCDW can check in?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: That discussion Marskell linked was interesting. I note he said there that "The four of 28 FA categories that absorb pop cult—Media, Music, Sport and recreation, and Video games—account for 500, or 26%, of our FAs." - that may be an oversimplification. I had a closer look at "Music" and found at least 26 (of the 153) are decidedly not popular culture (though some of the "Music of..." articles are borderline. See the list here for example. "Media" is more uniformly popular culture, though even that has Film Booking Offices of America, B movie, BBC television drama, Blackface, Kinetoscope, Mutual Broadcasting System and Sound film as encyclopedia articles on more "classical" (non-popular culture) topics. That is 7 out of 159, though the biographies of very famous people would also be "classical" encyclopedia topics (some of the biography articles probably count as "popular culture"). Even "Video games", at first glance irredeemably popular culture, has ESRB re-rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, GameFAQs, Nintendo Entertainment System, PlayStation 3, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, and Wii, though all those are still about contemporary topics. As for "Sport and recreation", there probably are some in there that are "popular culture", but not really more than in other areas. As you can probably tell, I enjoy identifying broad category areas. One thing I'd love to do is identify the articles on "established" topics, as opposed to articles on "contemporary" topics that may, to be fair, only be transient and not become a noticeable part of history, no matter how 'popular' or 'current' they are today. Something like "pre-1960s", and excluding living people. But that would take a lot of time. It would be nice if the "403 biographies" bit could be mentioned, oh, and that there are 80 articles on living people. Carcharoth (talk) 00:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stats on types of featured articles and topics 

message: OK, I took data from this page version of Wikipedia:Featured articles, and rustled up the following graphs. This sort of thing varies a lot over time as newer articles are featured and older ones defeatured, and as new section "types" are added, so a snapshot at any one particular time is more interesting than useful, but as I'd collected the data, I thought I'd put the graphs up anyway.
It should be noted that the types at WP:FA are broad ones, intended to keep the page clean and readable compared to the more extensive categorisation seen at WP:GA and in the WP 1.0 assessment categories (by wikiproject), and that (by design) there is no overlap between types, though in fact many articles could fit in more than one. Having said that, there are currently 28 types, with more than half the featured articles being made up of the top seven types, and the top eight types having over 100 articles (biology and medicine; media; music; geography and places; history; warfare; sport and recreation; and literature and theatre). There are 6 types with less than 20 articles (computing; language and linguistics; business economics and finance; mathematics; philosophy and psychology; and food and drink).
Possibly doing more analysis than this will not be productive, but one idea I had was to continue trying to work out (using the categories) what the numbers of featured articles are at the very broadest levels, such as portals and topics such as history, science, technology, biography, and so on. Some people have said that :Category:FA-Class articles provides this, but in fact that category assessment system (for WP 1.0) bundles featured lists and featured articles together, so (for example), :Category:FA-Class geography articles has two articles, a featured article and a featured list, and doesn't include most of the articles under the "Geography and places" section of WP:FA. The useful endpoint of all thise would be to feed through updated lists for portals, such as Portal:Geography, Portal:History, Portal:Science and Portal:Biography to use. Those portals (and many others) change their featured article on a monthly basis, but in some cases there are enough articles available to have the articles updating more frequently, on either a weekly or daily basis. See Portal:Biography/Selected article/Candidates#Automatic rotation for an example of this. I am sure other portals now have enough featured articles available to rotate featured articles daily, and I hope analysis like this will help.
Right, I've written nearly (or more than) enough to go with the graphs. Anyone have any comments? Carcharoth (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First, I'm shocked.  I had never actually tallied the numbers, but I thought Warfare and History were the largest categories, and would be the first to require division.  Perhaps they just "look" large because their articles tend to have longer titles?  I had no idea Biology and Medicine was the largest group. (OK, tooting my own horn, and Marskell, Casliber and TimVickers' too :-))  Anyway, next ... it looks like we have the makings of a Dispatch article.  I'll ping Marskell and make sure he's looking in here (I'm not sure he watches this page).  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ps, can we sync this with WP:WBFAN and find what percentage of those in Biology and medicine were nommed by Casliber, Marskell and TimVickers (and anyone else I don't know about)?  I think you've got a WP:FCDW article here.  (FAR saves of Tuberculosis and Schizophrenia go to Tim and Cas, btw.)  Ah, and the Dino guys; they beef that catgory up, what is that number?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An FCDW article? Wow. Please feel free to use the stats for that, but please do double-check my figures. As for the dino articles, I looked at Talk:Acrocanthosaurus and was shocked to see that WikiProject Dinosaurs hadn't updated its assessment tag! In the end, I found a total of 16 that hadn't been updated, which probably means that the WikiProject should get an award for doing more article writing than article assessment! :-) Anyway, the newly updated :Category:FA-Class dinosaurs articles contains 23 featured articles and one list. The rest of the section can be broken down into other subcategories, not for the purpose of browsing, I hasten to add, but to help identify trends and hotspots. I'll do that now for biology and medicine. Carcharoth (talk) 23:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The 161 "biology and medicine" ones are: 67 "animals" (including 28 birds), 28 "general biology", 23 "dinosaurs", 22 "medicine", 11 "people" and 10 "plants" (including one fungus). If that helps. I think it would help to get lists separated out from featured articles in the assessment categories. :Category:FA-Class bird articles has 43 members, but that includes 12 lists, Georg Forster, Archaeopteryx, and Flight feather, a total of 15 that subtracted from the 43 figure yields 28, the number of articles I've labelled "birds". I think the WP:1.0 people did say a while back they were thinking of doing a separate listing or category for featured lists. Indeed :Category:FL-Class articles exists, but it seems the uptake is not 100% yet. maybe that could go in some announcement or report? Carcharoth (talk) 00:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Great!  Can you park it at Wikipedia:FCDW/February 25, 2008 so everyone participating at WP:FCDW can check in?  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: That discussion Marskell linked was interesting. I note he said there that "The four of 28 FA categories that absorb pop cult—Media, Music, Sport and recreation, and Video games—account for 500, or 26%, of our FAs." - that may be an oversimplification. I had a closer look at "Music" and found at least 26 (of the 153) are decidedly not popular culture (though some of the "Music of..." articles are borderline. See the list here for example. "Media" is more uniformly popular culture, though even that has Film Booking Offices of America, B movie, BBC television drama, Blackface, Kinetoscope, Mutual Broadcasting System and Sound film as encyclopedia articles on more "classical" (non-popular culture) topics. That is 7 out of 159, though the biographies of very famous people would also be "classical" encyclopedia topics (some of the biography articles probably count as "popular culture"). Even "Video games", at first glance irredeemably popular culture, has ESRB re-rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, GameFAQs, Nintendo Entertainment System, PlayStation 3, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, and Wii, though all those are still about contemporary topics. As for "Sport and recreation", there probably are some in there that are "popular culture", but not really more than in other areas. As you can probably tell, I enjoy identifying broad category areas. One thing I'd love to do is identify the articles on "established" topics, as opposed to articles on "contemporary" topics that may, to be fair, only be transient and not become a noticeable part of history, no matter how 'popular' or 'current' they are today. Something like "pre-1960s", and excluding living people. But that would take a lot of time. It would be nice if the "403 biographies" bit could be mentioned, oh, and that there are 80 articles on living people. Carcharoth (talk) 00:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Graphs (February 2008)

message: FAs as of Sep 16 2008              	Count	Pct chg sinceJune 26
Art, architecture and archaeology  	72   	0.0%
Awards, decorations and vexillology	26   	0.0%
Biology                            	155  	11.5%
Business, economics and finance    	19   	0.0%
Chemistry and mineralogy           	31   	3.3%
Computing                          	17   	0.0%
Culture and society                	48   	2.1%
Education                          	34   	3.0%
Engineering and technology         	37   	2.8%
Food and drink                     	11   	-8.3%
Geography and places               	158  	2.6%
Geology, geophysics and meteorology	90   	13.9%
Health and medicine                	36   	5.9%
History                            	154  	2.0%
Language and linguistics           	15   	-16.7%
Law                                	34   	13.3%
Literature and theatre             	134  	4.7%
Mathematics                        	14   	-6.7%
Media                              	171  	1.8%
Music                              	182  	7.7%
Philosophy and psychology          	13   	0.0%
Physics and astronomy              	82   	10.8%
Politics and government            	67   	6.3%
Religion, mysticism and mythology  	44   	12.8%
Royalty, nobility and heraldry     	90   	3.4%
Sport and recreation               	162  	12.5%
Transport                          	74   	21.3%
Video gaming                       	96   	11.6%
Warfare                            	173  	6.8%
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA category tallies 

message: FA Category as of                  	Sep 16, 2008	Apr 4, 2010	Pct chg sinceSep 2008	Num chg sinceSep 2008
Art, architecture and archaeology  	72          	99         	37.5%                	+27
Awards, decorations and vexillology	26          	28         	7.7%                 	+2
Biology                            	155         	212        	36.8%                	+57
Business, economics and finance    	19          	21         	10.5%                	+2
Chemistry and mineralogy           	31          	34         	9.7%                 	+3
Computing                          	17          	18         	5.9%                 	+1
Culture and society                	48          	56         	16.7%                	+8
Education                          	34          	35         	2.9%                 	+1
Engineering and technology         	37          	34         	-8.1%                	-3
Food and drink                     	11          	9          	-18.2%               	-2
Geography and places               	158         	175        	10.8%                	+17
Geology, geophysics and meteorology	90          	121        	34.4%                	+31
Health and medicine                	36          	43         	19.4%                	+7
History                            	154         	185        	20.1%                	+29
Language and linguistics           	15          	14         	-6.7%                	-1
Law                                	34          	41         	20.6%                	+7
Literature and theatre             	134         	151        	12.7%                	+17
Mathematics                        	14          	19         	35.7%                	+5
Media                              	171         	210        	22.8%                	+39
Music                              	182         	223        	22.5%                	+41
Philosophy and psychology          	13          	11         	-15.4%               	-2
Physics and astronomy              	82          	97         	18.3%                	+15
Politics and government            	67          	93         	38.8%                	+26
Religion, mysticism and mythology  	44          	71         	61.4%                	+27
Royalty, nobility and heraldry     	90          	92         	2.2%                 	+2
Sport and recreation               	162         	243        	50.0%                	+81
Transport                          	74          	96         	29.7%                	+22
Video gaming                       	96          	125        	30.2%                	+29
Warfare                            	173         	282        	63.0%                	+109
Total                              	2,239       	2,838      	26.8%                	+599
Thanks for the 2010 update Sandy - the percentages are all correct by my calculations Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 update

message: * Reminder: Apollo 8 moved shortly after this data was tallied.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dec 1 2011 

message: Percentage Growth in FA Categories, 2008–2019, Legend:  , ,   , , 
Featured Article Category as of    	Feb 23, 2008	Sep 16, 2008	Sep 16, 2010	Dec 1, 2011	Jan 1,  2015	Jan 1,  2020	Pct chg Feb 2008 to 2011	Pct chg Feb 2008 to 2020
Art, architecture and archaeology  	65          	72          	117         	128        	175         	271         	97%                     	
Awards, decorations and vexillology	24          	26          	28          	27         	26          	24          	1.3%                    	
Biology                            	130         	155         	261         	326        	456         	625         	151%                    	
Business, economics and finance    	16          	19          	22          	44         	73          	116         	175%                    	
Chemistry and mineralogy           	29          	31          	34          	37         	40          	46          	28%                     	
Computing                          	17          	17          	17          	18         	16          	14          	5.9%                    	
Culture and society                	40          	48          	61          	65         	77          	104B        	63%                     	
Education                          	30          	34          	36          	38         	40          	40          	27%                     	
Engineering and technology         	35          	37          	38          	40         	43          	49          	14%                     	
Food and drink                     	11          	11          	9           	13         	17          	21B         	18%                     	
Geography and places               	148         	158         	181         	185        	213         	232         	25%                     	
Geology and geophysics             	9           	12          	18          	20         	23          	29          	122%                    	
Health and medicine                	31          	36          	42          	43         	51          	52          	39%                     	
History                            	146         	154         	189         	201        	239         	308         	38%                     	
Language and linguistics           	17          	15          	13          	13         	12          	15          	−24%                    	
Law                                	29          	34          	41          	49         	65          	72          	69%                     	
Literature and theatre             	108         	134         	161         	191        	258         	316B        	77%                     	
Mathematics                        	13          	14          	19          	17         	18          	18          	31%                     	
Media                              	159         	171         	221         	231        	324         	424         	45%                     	
Meteorology                        	61          	78          	111         	126        	147         	168         	107%                    	
Music                              	153         	182         	232         	254        	331         	398         	66%                     	
Philosophy and psychology          	12          	13          	12          	12         	12          	14          	0%                      	
Physics and astronomy              	67          	82          	98          	101        	127         	153         	51%                     	
Politics and government            	62          	67          	98          	117        	166         	217         	89%                     	
Religion, mysticism and mythology  	36          	44          	73          	84         	105         	121         	133%                    	
Royalty, nobility and heraldry     	75          	90          	94          	108        	124         	173         	44%                     	
Sport and recreation               	119         	162         	268         	298        	365         	449         	150%                    	
Transport                          	47          	74          	107         	128        	171         	213         	172%                    	
Video gaming                       	72          	96          	127         	137        	180         	222         	90%                     	
Warfare                            	145         	173         	318         	366        	537         	729         	152%                    	
                                   	            	            	            	           	            	            	                        	
* Note A:  Total is off by one; not worth looking for the error.
* Note B  Three food biographies moved  per discussion at WT:FAC
SandyGeorgia (Talk)  22:39, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jan 1, 2020 

message: Percentage Growth in FA Categories, 2008–2021, Legend:  , ,   , 
Featured Article Category as of    	Feb 23, 2008	Sep 16, 2008	Sep 16, 2010	Dec 1, 2011	Jan 1,  2015	Jan 1,  2020	Oct 25,  2021	Pct chg Jan 2020 to Oct 2021	Pct chg Feb 2008 to 2021	Pct of total	10-year trend
Art, architecture and archaeology  	65          	72          	117         	128        	175         	271         	290          	                            	                        	4.8%        	127%
Awards, decorations and vexillology	24          	26          	28          	27         	26          	24          	17           	                            	                        	0.3%        	-37%
Biology                            	130         	155         	261         	326        	456         	625         	659          	                            	                        	10.9%       	102%
Business, economics and finance    	16          	19          	22          	44         	73          	116         	119          	                            	                        	2.0%        	170%
Chemistry and mineralogy           	29          	31          	34          	37         	40          	46          	46           	                            	                        	0.8%        	24%
Computing                          	17          	17          	17          	18         	16          	14          	10           	                            	                        	0.2%        	-44%
Culture and society                	40          	48          	61          	65         	77          	104B        	109          	                            	                        	1.8%        	68%
Education                          	30          	34          	36          	38         	40          	40          	32           	                            	                        	0.5%        	-16%
Engineering and technology         	35          	37          	38          	40         	43          	49          	56           	                            	                        	0.9%        	40%
Food and drink                     	11          	11          	9           	13         	17          	21B         	21           	                            	                        	0.3%        	62%
Geography and places               	148         	158         	181         	185        	213         	232         	217          	                            	                        	3.6%        	17%
Geology and geophysics             	9           	12          	18          	20         	23          	29          	34           	                            	                        	0.6%        	70%
Health and medicine                	31          	36          	42          	43         	51          	52          	48           	                            	                        	0.8%        	12%
History                            	146         	154         	189         	201        	239         	308         	321          	                            	                        	5.3%        	60%
Language and linguistics           	17          	15          	13          	13         	12          	15          	14           	                            	                        	0.2%        	8%
Law                                	29          	34          	41          	49         	65          	72          	76           	                            	                        	1.3%        	55%
Literature and theatre             	108         	134         	161         	191        	258         	316B        	323          	                            	                        	5.4%        	69%
Mathematics                        	13          	14          	19          	17         	18          	18          	17           	                            	                        	0.3%        	0%
Media                              	159         	171         	221         	231        	324         	424         	439          	                            	                        	7.3%        	90%
Meteorology                        	61          	78          	111         	126        	147         	168         	177          	                            	                        	2.9%        	40%
Music                              	153         	182         	232         	254        	331         	398         	424          	                            	                        	7.0%        	67%
Philosophy and psychology          	12          	13          	12          	12         	12          	14          	12           	                            	                        	0.2%        	0%
Physics and astronomy              	67          	82          	98          	101        	127         	153         	154          	                            	                        	2.6%        	52%
Politics and government            	62          	67          	98          	117        	166         	217         	217          	                            	                        	3.6%        	85%
Religion, mysticism and mythology  	36          	44          	73          	84         	105         	121         	130          	                            	                        	2.2%        	55%
Royalty, nobility and heraldry     	75          	90          	94          	108        	124         	173         	187          	                            	                        	3.1%        	73%
Sport and recreation               	119         	162         	268         	298        	365         	449         	528          	                            	                        	8.8%        	77%
Transport                          	47          	74          	107         	128        	171         	213         	215          	                            	                        	3.6%        	68%
Video gaming                       	72          	96          	127         	137        	180         	222         	239          	                            	                        	4.0%        	74%
Warfare                            	145         	173         	318         	366        	537         	729         	891          	                            	                        	14.8%       	143%
                                   	            	            	            	           	            	            	             	                            	                        	100%        	76%
* Note A:  Total is off by one; not worth looking for the error.
* Note B  Three food biographies moved  per discussion at WT:FAC
Hog Farm  Talk 16:23, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oct 25, 2021 

message: Thought this might be of interest to people. The following histogram shows the distributions of the readable prose sizes for all 4262 GAs and 2066 FAs as of June 2008. After about 25kB the number of GAs is approximately equal to the number of FAs. The majority of GAs are shorter articles; if I recall correctly the reason GA was introduced was to provide some sort of recognition for articles which were not necessarily of a length/comprehensiveness to reach FA, so as far as this goes it seems to be working. There is also a non-zero minimum length for the articles which have been promoted to FA so far. Dr pda (talk) 04:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting.  It's becoming harder and harder to understand what the difference between FA and GA is intended to be these days.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought the graph was a good demomstration of the fact that despite what many claim GA does reward short articles. Unlike FA, where there is much soul-searching and wikilawyering about how best to prevent short articles reaching FA status. But that doesn't mean that GA is only for short articles. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  And I thought the discussion at FA was over over comprehensive, not length (although keeping the discussion focused on that has proven impossible).  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: FA vs GA readable prose size

message: There has been a change in how the semi-automated peer reviews (SAPRs) are linked in peer reviews (now the link is to the SAPR script on the tool server allowing interested users to run SAPRs themselves if they want). This means there will no longer be an archive of SAPRs to use as the PR stat for WP:FAS. 
From Dec. 2004 to Nov. 2007 the PR stat was how many PRs were in the PR archive for that month (how many closed that month). I took over doing the stats and started using the number in the SAPR archive (how many PRs were opened in a month). Since the stat used to be how many PRs were in the archive for that month, and will be going back to that for August 2009 and beyond, I was BOLD and went back and changed the stats for the months using SAPRs to the PR archive stat instead. 
The two numbers are not identical - here they are with the archive stat (followed by the SAPR stat, so July 2009 had 128 in the SAPR archive and 127 in the PR archive):
*2009 Jan 138 (150); Feb 137 (136); Mar 147 (123); Apr 117 (132); May 125 (107); Jun 114 (122); Jul 127 (128)
*2008 Jan 185 (184); Feb 187 (188); Mar 156 (183); Apr 178 (204); May 168 (184); Jun 179 (173); Jul 158 (176); Aug 164 (177); Sep 133 (161); Oct 148 (158); Nov 153 (149); Dec 121 (153)
*2007 Dec 107 (156)
I figured it was better to be consistent for the Dec 2007 to July 2009 stats and make the switch in FAS, but some of the discrepancies are odd. If someone feels like checking, I would appreciate (I have July 2009 off by one from the SAPR archive, so there may be errors). Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 03:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since May 14, 2008 User:PeerReviewBot has archived peer reviews, before then I or User:Allen3 archived peer reviews that were older than 14 days with no comments, or that were or at FAC or FLC. Before this date part of the discrepancy might be due to someone archiving their own PR and not adding it to the archive. For example, :Category:March 2008 peer reviews has 165 PRs, while the March 2008 PR archive has 156, and the SAPR archive has 183. If someone listed an article twice for PR in a single month, they would have two SAPRs, but only be listed once in the category for that month. I am not sure how the category is defined (PR started that month or closed that month or something else). Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I went and looked at the data and linked the sources used and made the following table. I am not sure what the discrepancies are due to - I think the double listing would show up in all places. Anyway here's the table - I think I would use the category number. Any thoughts or insights welcome, Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Where there appears to be a discrepancy between the PR archive and the PR category, the most likely culprit is template transclusion limits. I checked out Wikipedia:Peer review/January 2009 and the 34 missing articles correspond to the 34 templates which are not transcluded (scroll to the bottom of the page). The number of articles in the PR archive can be computed more readily by counting the number of articles on the corresponding VeblenBot page, e.g. This should compare robustly with the number of articles in the category, as it is a snapshot of the category at the moment when the archive was closed: this has been typically a month after the category was active. Geometry guy 21:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, so three things should give us the same number in theory - the monthly PR archive, the monthly PR category, and the monthly VeblenBot PR page. The archive page can be incomplete because of transclusion size issues, so it is not reliable. The category and VeblenBot pages only go back as far as February 2008, so before then we have to have to use the PR archive. Of the category and the VeblenBot pages, the category gives the number directly (have to count by hand on VeblenBot's page) and the category makes it clearer which things should not be counted - see User:VeblenBot/C/February 2008 peer reviews and :Category:February 2008 peer reviews - it is clearer in the cateogry page that four of the things listed are WikiProject PRs and so should not count in the total for this page. I plan to use the catehory number from Feb. 2008 and will link to the page. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, the stats page has been updated with numbers from the monthly PR category from Feb 2008 on. I adjusted the numbers in a few cases - some PRs from WikiProjects were in the cat, so I did not count those. I also removed the cat from a few copies - all of this means the table above is not always accurate, but the FAS page is. I linked the number to the cat page so anyone interested can check. Thanks to G'guy. Any thoughts on how to check the archives older than Feb 2008 for transclusion limit errors? Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 18:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may recall at the beginning of the year I wrote a dispatch for the Signpost (Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-02-16/Dispatches) on the activity of the major content review processes, including PR. One of the results was the image at right . To obtain this I exported all the revisions of WP:PR and for each revision counted the number of occurrences of {{Wikipedia:Peer review/ in the wiki source of the revision. (Or the equivalent pages/templates after the VeblenBot automation). I still have the numerical data, so in principle I could write a script to go through these data and tally up how many reviews were removed from the page each month. (Though this would include malformed noms which were subsequently deleted). These numbers could then be compared to the numbers from the PR archive pages. I'll try to do this in the next few days. Dr pda (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much for looking into this - Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 11:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As promised I have tried rerunning over my data, however the numbers I got for 2005–2007 were quite different from those in the WP:FAS table. Part of this is that by just counting the number of occurrences of {{Wikipedia:Peer review/, the script counted malformed/joke noms, or double counted reviews removed by vandalism and subsequently restored. What one really needs to do is step through diff-by-diff looking at the titles of the reviews, and/or how long they were on the page (i.e. excluding noms which were reverted within a short period). Fortunately I discovered difflib in python, which allowed me to do exactly this. The numbers, and indeed the lists of articles, I get still don't tally with the numbers/articles on the archive pages (Wikipedia:Peer review/February 2005 etc). I don't mind going through and correcting the archives to add missing articles etc, but before doing so I wanted to doublecheck what convention we are using to assign the month. Is is the month the PR was opened, the month in which the last comment was made, or the month in which the review was removed from WP:PR?Dr pda (talk) 03:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much for doing this - the current archives are based on the month in which the peer review is closed, so to be consistent that should be used throughout. User:Allen3 used to do the archiving of PRs until the end of December 2007, and I am pretty sure this is how he did it too (should I ask him?). When I used the semi-automated peer reviews, I used the month the PR opened (as that was when the SAPR was generated), but now all the numbers are based on the category for that month (from Feb. 2008 on) or the archive for that month (before that). I really appreciate your work on this, but is this worth the effort? Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 13:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating the PR stats 

message: According to the log for August 2010 promotions, it seems Pipistrellus raceyi is the 3000th FA. Suggested sanctioning: blowjob-based celebration.--Sum (talk) 23:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Incorrect; there were six promotions for the 3000th FA.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And raceyi was not among them. You probably started counting on the wrong end. Ucucha 01:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  3000th FA 

message: Hi, I updated the GA statistics for August, and I'm pretty sure the number you've given for FAs is wrong. There are 3374 FAs now (3 September), but two articles were promoted on 2 September, so the number for the end of August should be 3372, and the net number of promotions should be 28 (in either case the number should be red, since August has 31 days.) Lampman (talk) 16:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - I usually try to update on the 1st of the month and missed it until now. I agree with your reasoning and will make the change. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 17:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong number for August 

message: Hello . I maintain the GA statistics page, and I think the number of FACs promoted in February is correct; it doesn't take into account the article promoted in March before you updated the FA stats page. I updated the GA stats page at 00:18 UTC on March 1st, and there were 4,181 FAs at that time. If you want to take No. 34 Squadron RAAF into account, the total should be 4,182 and not 4,181. AmericanLemming (talk) 06:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If 34SQN isn't taken into account, that's correct, tks guys. I will double-check the whole thing as usual later today when I get a moment. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to both of you - ideally the stats should be done just after midnight GMT of the last day of the month. Even if they are done late (as the Feb 2014 stats were this time) the idea is that the stats reflect what was done in the the month of February. Since 34SQN was promoted on March 1, it should count on current FACs, but not be counted in the FAs promoted stat. Ruhrfisch  ><>°° 18:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of FACs promoted in February 2014 

message: Please see discussion at WT:FAC, here.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:56, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is now Footnote C, SandyGeorgia (Talk)  20:17, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnote A 

message: You may or may not have noticed that between March 28 and March 29 the article count on the English Wikipedia jumped from about 4,753,000 to about 4,848,000, an increase of roughly 95,000 articles overnight. I brought this up, first at Talk:Main Page and then at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 136#Article count jumps by 100,000 in a day.... To make a long story short, it seems that the automatically generated article count isn't especially accurate, and they've now started running some maintenance script at the end of every month to fix it manually. Thus, it does seem that the drastic jump in article count is legitimate rather than a bug or human error. 
Anyway, it might be a good idea to add a note to this month's FA stats explaining the reason for the unusually large increase in the number of articles; I'm thinking of perhaps doing that for the GA stats page, which I maintain. AmericanLemming (talk) 04:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Tks for this, AL. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

text: I have noticed that. In the past the article count would increase by about 1,000 every day, but it has been increasing very slowly this month, and for a week or so it was actually decreasing by a few hundred articles each day. I brought it up at the Village Pump's technical section, but no one got back to me on it. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 136#GA count drops 3,500 overnight. It may be worthwhile to bring it up again; as that was a secondary concern of mine at the time (the GA count has since been fixed), it's understandable that it was overlooked. AmericanLemming (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks - just asked the question in the WP:VPT. My guess is that the March jump overshot the actual article count for some reason, and now it's "compensating". GregorB (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article count jumps by 100,000 in a day 

message: Hi . You updated the July stats with this edit -  - for which many thanks. You have the number of FA promotions as 30, while the number shown in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/July 2023 as promoted in July is 31. Can I ask where you got 30 from? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: 6284 + 17 = 6301, not the 6302 indicated at WP:FA month end (Z1720, be sure to check that the tally matches as a way of finding errors).  (By the way, updating this chart is much harder than it looks, so thanks for taking it on :)  SandyGeorgia (Talk)  12:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Gog is correct that is it 31: I miscounted. Thanks for fixing this for me. Z1720 (talk) 15:14, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No prob ... it *really* is harder to update this page than it looks, and I appreciate that you are doing it (so I don't have to :) SandyGeorgia (Talk)  17:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: July stats