Talk:Japanese addressing system

message: *In addresses, Choume-Ban (Banchi)-Gou(丁目-番地-号 or 丁目-番-号) scheme
Style 1: 一丁目2番(番地)3号 is correct or formal.
See article section “Address order” 
:〒100-8799 東京都千代田区丸の内二丁目7番2号東京中央郵便局 
Style 2: 東京都千代田区丸の内2丁目7番2号 is simplified, because X is Arabic.
Style 3: 東京都千代田区丸の内2-7-2 is a very simplified style.
*Refer to example in web site:
*Toyota: English address representation: Style 3:
:Head Office　1 Toyota-Cho, Toyota City, Aichi Prefecture 471-8571, Japan Phone: (0565)28-2121
:Tokyo Head Office　1-4-18 Koraku, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 112-8701, Japan Phone: (03)3817-7111 
:Nagoya Office　4-7-1 Meieki, Nakamura-ku, Nagoya City, Aichi Prefecture 450-8711, Japan Phone: (052)552-2111
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*Sony: Style 3 for both English and Japanese. ,
*Even Prime Minister Kantei uses style 3, which is very much simplified.
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*Japan Post:  formal style 1 in Japanese.  Head office: 1-3-2 Kasumigaseki, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100-8798.  In Style 3, in English. 
*Mitsubishi Corp.: Style 1 in Japanese .  Formal in Japanese representation.
*Sumitomo: Style 1 in English. 
*Most Japanese prefer to write the way you suggested.  However, 日本郵政 says to write the way shown in the article. Please see the following:,  and . Oda Mari (talk) 05:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct/formal/ simplified representation 

message: *Now, about “Y-Z ,Town name, XChume“, I really do not know the reason why this style is became common and its timing for Address resentation in English. May be some “Gaijin=Person from overseas in later Edo period made his name card. But “Y-Z ,Town name, XChume“  style is believed fit to Gaijin’s thinking or matches than X-Y-Z style.
Today as you see web site above, many people and even world-class business enterprises prefer to or without
well thought in depth, X-Y-Z style is employed.
* Note :"To-Dou-Fu-Ken- City/Gun town-Choume-Ban-gou", Details to follow shortly.--Namazu-tron 03:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Namazu-tron. Why don't you add the actual popular way of addressing to the article? I believe your edit will make the article better. In another word, I know you won't put in inaccurate information because you are a Japanese and know the system well. Oda Mari (talk) 04:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Oda Mari-san. Oh, I do not know well about too much complicated Japanese addressing system. I even wonder it can be called SYSTEM. Someone created this article and improved by many user, but define as system is very tough job.  it may be a great research. See 都道府県市区町村 web site various pages and vast discussions,   (which top page is only allowed to link without permission or pre-consult.) In this site, even native Japanese talks each other on Japanese addressing system,  that very complicated and may not be a integrated rule or style.  If some user,  who participate on this Wikipedia article and talks,  to edit this article more , I can correct part by part. I rather would like to have time for edit other article in Japanese and/or English edition. Frankly I edit article itself is tough job in terms of writing in English and know addressing system before edit. Anyway, I will revert as I said as above.--Namazu-tron 06:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Namazu-tron. It's too complicated and too tough for me to improve. Maybe it would be better to think about the article name change. If there's some appropriate word for 'system'. But the current article is better than before and basically accurate. So I'm rather be satisfied. Oda Mari (talk) 05:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Y-Z, Town mane X-Choume 

message: Hi, you all.   Some are in hurry to figure out what Japanese tangled addressing system is or to be.
I now up load and show you the DRAFT of my written scheme ONLY in hurry.
It need to describe each level 1 to 15 and numbered arrows with explanation and example.
Again, wait.   it is not easy job to collect actual information or citation.--Namazu-tron 19:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Namazu-tron, The diagram is getting very complete. Oda Mari noted, though, that there should be an arrow from To to Machi and an arrow from To to Mura (for the islands -- they do not have gun). Also, I don't think there is a reason to write both "city" and "city designated by government ordinance." It only adds confusion to the diagram. The diagram is already confusing -- not because people are making it confusing, but as already said, because the system is confusing! If it can be called a system at all. Best regards, Fg2 20:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese addressing diagram/Scheme 

message: *Address indication (:ja:住居表示) is set by law, 住居表示に関する法律and :ja:住居表示に関する法律and Local Autonomy Law, and these law set very rough form/scheme, and actually the bylaw by each municipal unit define details or further level up to LVL-17.
*LVL-2 Postal code assign is almost reviewed every months and renewed, See Postal code search郵便番号検索案内 [and http://www.yu-bin.net/pc/update/index.html] up date and obsolete list.
 
*refer to :ja:Category:行政区画の単位, Prefectures of Japan, and municipality.
*address search 住所一覧検索 is, to locate up to LVL-12 Gō residential building/house number, very useful site, but style is mostly X-Y-Z simplified one by skipping letter丁目,番&号.
*Municipality may not be so important to addressing as the system, however naming follow to municipality unit is some tendency and defined by bylaw any time, especially 町&村merger and acquisition to big city timing. Yes, (shichō市長, kuchō区長, chōchō町長, sonchō村長) are municipal mayor and each unit has parliament and does set bylaw.
*Municipal unit are; List of governors of Japan in LVL-3, Special wards of Tokyo & two types of Cities, ordinal cities and City designated by government ordinance in LVL-4. Core city and ordinal "city" under line 3-3 LVL-4 is the same in terms of addressing system, and shown two types of cities is the "City" in a diagram.
*Gun is a frame of division, but no municipality and always follows LVL-7 Machi町or Mura村 which has municipality. 
*Some Ku区in some city in LVL-5 may be much population and area size than Special wards of Tokyo though .
*Gun郡 Districts of Japan is first appeared at time of Ritsuryō. I have no idea now, about Gun had municipality before World War II. Surname Gunji郡司 is refer to municipal officer or judge from Gun that means Gun had municipal function in past probably.
=== Ōaza, Aza and Koaza ===
*Also see "Mergers discussion of prefectures of Japan" :ja:日本の道州制論議 or :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#市町村合併の歴史 that mentioning in 1888 & 1889, number of 町村decreased 1/5 from 71,314 to 15,820, then about in 1923 further decrease approx. 500, then :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#昭和の大合併 and :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#平成の大合併 drastically change addressing system too.
** Add on 2008, Jan., 1: The news according to Sankei Shimbun news web site(日本語）, number of municipal 市町村 is 1797 as of 2008, Jan. 1. and it will further decrease to 1788 by 2008, July 1. Approx 25% of 1252市町村, that had not merged at timing of 平成の大合併(financial support by governmenthad been expired), are under discussion for merging, therefore further big mergeｒ(大合併) is expected.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Namazu-tron (talk • contribs) 05:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Line 4-3 and 4-4 should be deleted, because municipal machi and mura under municipal city, this is contradiction.--Namazu-tron (talk) 17:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I now reviewed and believe correct and accurate. You can see many many exceptional cases at JRおでかけネットJR excursion Net 駅name Index with letter あ through わ. --Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  PS: Sorry that I am hardware man and it seems edit by addressing scheme by jargon SVG format and edit by Inkscape is not realistic and seems tough work. I rather prefer enjoy edit articles with text than by jargon software languages.--Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan addressing system/ Scheme general discussion as of 2007, Dec 16 

message: *Also see "Mergers discussion of prefectures of Japan" :ja:日本の道州制論議 or :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#市町村合併の歴史 that mentioning in 1888 & 1889, number of 町村decreased 1/5 from 71,314 to 15,820, then about in 1923 further decrease approx. 500, then :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#昭和の大合併 and :ja:日本の市町村の廃置分合#平成の大合併 drastically change addressing system too.
** Add on 2008, Jan., 1: The news according to Sankei Shimbun news web site(日本語）, number of municipal 市町村 is 1797 as of 2008, Jan. 1. and it will further decrease to 1788 by 2008, July 1. Approx 25% of 1252市町村, that had not merged at timing of 平成の大合併(financial support by governmenthad been expired), are under discussion for merging, therefore further big mergeｒ(大合併) is expected.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Namazu-tron (talk • contribs) 05:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ōaza, Aza and Koaza 

message: Personal HP. Net play voting; How you write address X-Y-Z,
Gō号 is house location number
*The most example below are extracted from web site of address of Japan Railways Group railway station 
*Line 3-3 is to City on LVL-3.
*Line 3-4 is from Dou-Fu-Ken LVL-3 to Gun LVL-4. These apply even to small island. Example is 097-0401 北海道利尻郡利尻町沓形字緑町14番地1
==== Ku in LVL-8 ====
*Ku in LVL-8 then line 8-3, to directly Aza in LVL-9 , 岩手県奥州市水沢区字福原 Ōshū, Iwate was born in 2006 by merging machi which have Ku in LVL-8, same to Himeji, Hyōgo.
*There are many Ku in Himeji, Hyōgo old city though, line 4-5. 
*[ http://www.jr-odekake.net/eki/search_50.php?keyword=%82%A0&page=1 useful address finding of railway station]
*Most Examples are JR Station residential address in my description here.
==== LVL-5 then jump to LVL-11 LVL-9 ====
*Line 3-2 4-2, Ku in LVL5 then jump to LVL-11 9 Machi ,54. 広島（ひろしま）所在地 : 広島県広島市南区松原町２番３７号, This is no Chome, skip LVL-6  & LVL-9, because 町deems above LVL-11 banchi and Gō LVL-12, and this Machi松原町is considered belong to LVL-8 9 block size rather than LVL-6, not having line (jump line from LVL-5 to LVL-9) on the schematic as exceptional case though.
==== No Banchi number even in central area of big city ====
*千葉地方裁判所松戸支部松戸簡易裁判所郵便番号 271-8522 所在地 千葉県松戸市岩瀬無番地（JR常磐線松戸駅から徒歩7分） this is no(無)Banchi number assigned yet. The fact seems land location is not citizen residence and land might be national land so that still addressing is chiban地番.
*Line 8-2, Oaza to Koaza, skipping Aza, #29東舞鶴（ひがしまいづる）所在地 : 京都府舞鶴市大字浜小字五久６６６無番地１ Maizuru, Kyoto, old city, directly go down to Oaza, by line 4-5 then skip Aza , the Koaza LVL-10, rural area of , seems seas shore by 浜naming Machi of LVL-11 -8, but still none- Gō number(無番地=無号). 
*There are two other representation (a)地先 or (b)番外地 for 無番地. (a)地先 is the no number assigned location (land), beyond the location where is having Banchi number, or forwarding location (land) with no number yet. (b) Two sites about 番外地,What is 番外地 describes is also literary "out of number location (land)".
==== Examples ====
*Example shows heading with あof Gojūon first letter, so that example here are not special, it deems typical case for residential address location with any letter heading.
**#2. 相野（あいの）駅、所在地:兵庫県三田市下相野字五反田３３１番地１、線区:JR宝塚線, Line 4-3 LVL-7 4-5 LVL-8 Skip Oaza下相野, Line 7-2 8-3 then Aza五反田 then Banchi & Gō by line 9-2, city Sanda, Hyōgowith Oaza, Aza, Koza scheme which is considered to be applied not to cities, but still apply in rural area of some cities in country site.
** #11 赤碕（あかさき）駅、所在地:鳥取県東伯郡琴浦町大字赤碕字坂ノ前８４９番地－２、線区:山陰線, Gun東伯郡, line 4-3 4-6 to  Machi琴浦町, Line 7-1 to Oaza赤碕, Line 8-3 to Aza坂ノ前, Line 9-2 to Banchi, No Koaza LVL-10 case.
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** #14 英賀保（あがほ）駅、所在地:兵庫県姫路市飾磨区山崎１３２番、線区:山陽線、again, Ku in Himeji, Hyōgo, line 4-5 to Ku飾磨区, deems Machi山崎 in LVL -10 -9 by line 8-1 8-3 then directly follows LVL-11 Banchi, deems skipping LVL -9 -10 Koaza.
** #13.  明塚（あかつか）駅、所在地:島根県邑智郡美郷(みさと)町明塚８４番地、線区:三江線、Gun邑智郡in LVL4, then line 4-6 municipal Machi美郷(みさと)町 in LVL-7, then line 7-2 Machi明塚 LVL-9, then line 9-2 to Banchi, typical fashion without proceeding Oaza & Koaza in Gun in rural area, today.
** #6.  阿川（あがわ）駅、所在地:山口県下関市豊北町阿川字水取３６５３－３、線区:山陰線、City下関市, Line 4-5 to Machi豊北町阿川 of LVL-8, line 8-3 to Machi(or Aza)水取 of LVL-9 without prefix Oaza, then line 9-2 to banchi, then line 11-2 Gō. Shimonoseki, Yamaguchi This LVL-8 "豊北町阿川" is considered further sub-divided into two LVL, LVL-8.0豊北町 and LVL-8.1阿川. I am guessing or it seems that when 豊北町 was municipality town and had 阿川 as Oaza, it was well suite in size range having Oaza in Municipal town, but after merger to 下関市, 豊北町阿川 is single LVL-8 by bylaw, but actualy or reality is LVL8.0 & 8.1 of histrical division of time of Gun reflecting. 
** #8  青野山（あおのやま）駅, 所在地:島根県鹿足郡津和野町直地(ただち), 線区:山口線, Kanoashi District, Shimane, no Banchi number case, but not represent as 無番, it streightly ends with LVL-9 without saying about LVL-11 nor 無番 . #9 is same too. Also you can see variaety of addressing even on the first page of serach web site. Also of #45. 油田（あぶらでん）駅, 所在地:富山県砺波市三郎丸、線区:城端線 Tonami, Toyama
** #17 & #18 is under line 7-0 LVL-9 丁目番地号 common scheme in most cities
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** #37  安栖里（あせり）駅、所在地:京都府船井郡京丹波町安栖里萩尾２１番地２、線区:山陰線、long Machi name “安栖里萩尾” seems generally, my personal feeling though, Oaza of 安栖里 and Aza of 萩尾, or Aza of 安栖里 and Koaza of 萩尾 without actually having Oaza, Aza and Koaza proceedings. But think LVL-8.0=安栖里 & LVL8.1=萩尾 is more natural as explained in  #6.  阿川（あがわ）駅 above.
** #52  餘部（あまるべ）所在地:兵庫県美方郡香美町香住区余部字ナワテ１８６１番地２, 線区:山陰線, Banchi number proceeding three Katakana letters, but different from Ishikawa Prefecture, including Kanazawa and Nanao, case. “ナワテ” is proceeding Aza字, and I am sure 縄手 is by Katakana.
**# 11  石原（いさ）駅、所在地:京都府福知山市字石原小字横枕５９５番地３、線区:山陰線, Koaza case.
**#24  大田市（おおだし）所在地:島根県大田市大田町大田イ６６４－１番地, 線区:山陰線 Katakana proceeds to banchi number same as Ishikawa Prefecture.
**#20.  香住（かすみ）,所在地:兵庫県美方郡香美町香住区七日市字クゴ２２番地,線区:山陰線 Machi name クゴ seems difficult Kanji letters, so that changed to katakana for everybody readable.
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**#37 上川口（かみかわぐち）駅、所在地:京都府福知山市大字六十内(むそち)字上小田小字石郡１２２番地２、線区:山陰線 Now I found full case of Oaza, Aza and Koaza full sequence ! Note that 郡 of "石郡" is, not of course, Gun of LVL-4, it read “ishi-gouri” but 郡 still meant “small area/zone”.
*LVL-12 Gō is not assigned in most rural area, not necessary to have because of less residents, so that line 11-1 or 11-3 to jump to further level is valid ( by bylaw).
*How people represent addressing in written materials.
** Example, 永田町一丁目23番45号
*** 23-45, Nagatacho 1 chome
*** 1-23-45, Nagatacho
*** With Kanji form representation by some elder people for mailing letter or envelope and may be in even on web site of company address: 
**** 永田町一丁目二三番四五号、or more tough to read 永田町一丁目二十三番四十五号.
**** Note that all representation is believed readable and process by Japan post :ja: 区分機 1967- latest models by Toshiba, NEC and Hitachi
==== Tentative finish ====
Now, my description has been getting much longer, so that tentatively finish and all you can check with variety of representation on web site JRおでかけネットJR excursion Net  
Thank you, you all.--Namazu-tron (talk) 01:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Line 4-3 and 4-4 should be deleted, because municipal machi and mura under municipal city, this is contradiction.--Namazu-tron (talk) 17:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I now reviewed and believe correct and accurate. You can see many many exceptional cases at JRおでかけネットJR excursion Net 駅name Index with letter あ through わ. --Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  PS: Sorry that I am hardware man and it seems edit by addressing scheme by jargon SVG format and edit by Inkscape is not realistic and seems tough work. I rather prefer enjoy edit articles with text than by jargon software languages.--Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addressing Example, mostly exceptional case 

message: Now, my description has been getting much longer, so that tentatively finish and all you can check with variety of representation on web site JRおでかけネットJR excursion Net  
Thank you, you all.--Namazu-tron (talk) 01:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Line 4-3 and 4-4 should be deleted, because municipal machi and mura under municipal city, this is contradiction.--Namazu-tron (talk) 17:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I now reviewed and believe correct and accurate. You can see many many exceptional cases at JRおでかけネットJR excursion Net 駅name Index with letter あ through わ. --Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  PS: Sorry that I am hardware man and it seems edit by addressing scheme by jargon SVG format and edit by Inkscape is not realistic and seems tough work. I rather prefer enjoy edit articles with text than by jargon software languages.--Namazu-tron (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tentative finish 

message: Thank you for your hard work Namazu-tron, this is an absolutely impressive and well referenced piece of source-based research.
I don't have the time and skills to go through your report in full, but I would suggest the following
*Diagram or not, we should start integrating these referenced facts into the article. I am more and more convinced that the article as it stands is inaccurate and incomplete. If possible we should give the casual reader a good high-level view towards the top of the article and then go into the fine-grained details.
*Let's port the diagram to a format that everybody can edit. This is absolutely critical, because otherwise the only decision that can be made about the image is whether to keep it or remove it. Since the image will never be perfect, someone will always be able to say that we should remove it for this or that reason. I did a quick research and it seems that the preferred format for these things is SVG, and the editor of choice Inkscape. This is explained here, together with other very interesting guidelines.
*I have other comments/suggestions more specific to the diagram, but I think that before discussing any further we should have an editable version of it, in the true spirit of WP. In fact, I would be perfectly happy to include in the article an SVG version of this diagram as it stands, so everybody can start contributing their improvements, cosmetic or otherwise.
83.67.217.254 (talk) 11:31, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response

message: Hi  Dogcow-san, I dare to say that even picture is your apartment addressing, a person of your next room and owner ( even your self is owner) of your apartment may not welcome to have his very private address on Wikipedia. Also people live around 2-21-9 do not want it too.  I would suggest you  revert by your self, it is not welcomed Dec., 25th gift.--Namazu-tron (talk) 00:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh?  The fact that Kamimeguro 2-21-9 exists is public knowledge, and the picture shows a public sign, with no information about the resident of the address. Jpatokal (talk) 04:24, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

text: There is nothing private about the address itself as anyone can see it if walking down the street where it exists. The image is perfectly acceptable. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you go there, you can say this particular addressing or plate is exposure to public, however, when this is on Wikipedia here, it is unnecessary or infringe of exposure to world via internet. If someone send postal mail or parcel contains  undesirable materials with addressing up to LVL-12 without LVL-13 or with like "Dear Sir"of room#X in Japanese style, it may be delivered properly as sender intended.Relative to Information Privacy Laws and OECD regulations, Japan enacted "Private information protection law :ja:個人情報保護法" in 2003 May, and applied since 2005 April. The picture here may or may not infringe this law. I hope anyone put this Japanese law into English by the way. This law is regards to protection or none-exposure of information which is identifiable personal matter or entity, by such as name or birth date and otheres(など、等） items. "Others" is very much ambiguity point and interpretation of law is different amongst people, municipal unit, even government ministry and each officers there. Due to various interpretation by people or organization that shrink exposure or on publication even necessary information, because of such confusion of Japanese society occurred, government or municipal unit is announcing "usage or interpretation or recommendation or guide line", but context of law itself remain as enacted and whether the law context is too much rigid is disputes in Japan.With such context on this discussion(talks) here, I strongly deny(...で無い!） having picture here. In some extent, matter is more important than copyright protection obeying.--Namazu-tron (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your argument is nonsensical.  The law is about protecting personal (個人) information, that is, information about a person.  It would definitely be a privacy violation to say that "Suzuki Taro lives at Kamimeguro 2-21-9".  But it is not a privacy violation to say that "Kamimeguro 2-21-9 exists", because there is no person involved! Jpatokal (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, you'd have to know the city or town where this particular Kamimeguro was. I've seen Kamimeguro in at least two, and there are likely more. So, it's not terribly explicit about a specific location, either. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete new Picture 

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Article(s): Japanese addressing system
 
Request: Lighten area of sign on right as focus -- Chris (クリス) (talk) 15:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: {{Request Title|title=Japanese addressing system|done=false}}

message: Hello,
Although perfectly understandable, I have never seen this format used before when writing romaji addresses in Japan, let alone recommended by Japan Post. If the "recommendation" is not properly sourced, I will remove it in favour of the much more common "2-7-2" format.
laug (talk) 08:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably worth noting as a variant (I have seen that a few times), but it's pretty much obsolete, and Japan Post's own About page uses the "normal" form: 1-3-2 Kasumigaseki, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100-8798. Jpatokal (talk) 09:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "7-2, Marunouchi 2-Chome" format 

message: "cleaning up lazy sloppy edits and unwikilike chart by persistent IP who says "see talk page" and then left nothing there"
Dont you know how to use the history page of talk page?
Define unwikilike.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Japanese_addressing_system&action=history
218.216.99.67 (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, I do know how to use the history page of the talkpage, and as I said, you left nothing here to explain why you keep pushing your sloppy, misspelled and misplaced edits. Unwikilike means "not wikilike", in this case slapping an unformatted chart at the top of a section, completely out of style with the rest of the article and with similar edits within the same article. I am not your English teacher and I am not your mom. If several editors have problems with your edits, they are bad edits. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 09:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To OP. You wrote "There is no such combination of X番地Y号." in your edit summary. I'm afraid you were wrong. There is. See this Japan Post page. You can see "○番-○号 町名, ○丁目" on the page. Oda Mari (talk) 10:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think 218.216.99.67 is right. There are two systems for addressing in Japan: Jūkyo hyōji (:ja:住居表示) and Chiban (:ja:地番). In the case ofJūkyo hyōji, Gaiku fugō (街区符号) is represented as X番 not X番地. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops. Sorry that I confused 番 and 番地. But I still don't support with the addition of the unformatted chart. Oda Mari (talk) 05:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  unwikilike edits by 218.216.99.67 

message: Sometime in this article ('Special cases' section)'s explanations and example , 'chō' is used ad a city's partition. But this is not defined and explained in article introduction ('Address parts' section). ('chō' is named just in in one sentence, meaning town: 'followed by the town (chō or machi, 町)'. It's not named as a city's partition.).
Is  'chō' bigger or small then 'chōme', when used ad a city's partition? --62.19.43.59 (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  chō in city 

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message: Hello.
I suggest that translation of  should be ‘county’ rather than ‘district’.
# The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism uses this term. 地名等の英語表記規程 (p.5)
# The word ‘district’ is sometimes used for a translation of  or , which is much smaller than . This ambiguity can be confusing.—Chiro08 (talk) 13:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest arguing for this change at Districts of Japan.  However, "country" strongly implies local government, which is not the case for gun. Jpatokal (talk) 23:59, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you. I have already discussed it at the page, but no one has replied.—Chiro08 (talk) 09:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation of ''gun (郡)''

message: About this statement within the main article:
"However, exceptions abound, and the line between the schemes is often blurry as there are no clear delimiters for machi, aza, etc.  There are also some municipalities like Ryūgasaki, Ibaraki which do not use any subdivisions."
If some of the current municipalities (or shichoson under the 1889 Municipal Merger Establishment/Enforcement Act/Law) don't contain local administrative subdivision units within municipal borders, like the Ryūgasaki town example, then how come at one point it contained these former villages alongside the former town in its initial (pre-1954) borders (which is currently that towns main town centre or downtown area)?:
* , , , ,  and ; plus a portion or section of 
Shouldn't that count by definition as ōaza or aza or kōaza under the Japanese addressing system? Lemme know your thoughts guys.
P.S.: Between 1869 and 1889, the period where the Meiji period began in Japan, could it be possible that there were more than just 71,314 natural settlements or village-like hamlets from the Edo period that were the local administrative units at that time? jlog3000 (talk) 19:05, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current "shichoson" that contain "no subdivisions"