Talk:Richard Garfield

message: I had the amazing experience of meeting Richard Garfield when he was a student.  Not only was he there, but some other incredibly brilliant mathematicians including his thesis adviser, Herbert S. Wilf, who, along with Doron Zeilberger, developed an amazing theory in combinatorics.  We all were hanging out together, talking about Gauss' identities and how to reprove them, about games and gaming strategy.  Writing on napkins, Richard Garfield was developing his ideas for games.  It is exciting to think that "I knew him back then". There should be articles about Herb Wilf and Doron Zeilberger too; they are brilliant, funny, and accomplished, as is Garfield.
MathStatWoman 18:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The artical is too positive of him in the light of his help in the creation of M:TG when it has already been shown that he did not do it alone, much less do most of the work as many people worked on M:TG.  This violates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons and as such the artical needs to be cleaned up to reflect these facts.  Other articals are also being used as support of these NPOV violations, and these knots of NPOV issues need to be unraveled. Belgarath TS (talk) 00:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted the NPOV and factual accuracy tags due to the extended amount of time that this discussion has been dormant, and the fact that the concerns brought up here have been addressed both here on the talk page and in the text of the page, with multiple sources cited for support. If I am mistaken and there is further dispute, feel free to re-add these tags and explain. 24.18.201.214 (talk) 22:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV Dispute: Creation of MTG 

message: The article references but does not mention the others who helped him playtest and create M:TG in Walla Walla.  It instead cites him as the sole creator, when this is not the case.  I am adding a 'disputed' tag to this article as it currently cites him as the sole creator of M:TG despite the publicly acknowledged fact that others in Walla Walla helped him create it. Belgarath TS (talk) 22:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  M:TG 

message: What is the source for his wealth? --SparqMan 17:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the statement that claimed he's a billionaire.  --Mrwojo 21:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: That is actualy disputed.  Please see my notes above Belgarath TS (talk) 00:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

text: No doubt, Mr. Garfield is wealthy, but we need proof of those supposed billions. --SparqMan 19:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: For a bit of perspective, Hasbro bought Wizards of the Coast for $325 million (with an m).  --Mrwojo 02:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From which Garfield made $100 million 1, unlikely he's increased that by a factor of ten. Jgbaxter (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Billionaire 

message: Didn't he create the game? Then how did he join Wizards AFTER the game was made?--70.16.21.224 11:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Creator

message: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/rb10
Mathiastck 21:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not his homepage, by the way. It's about the development of an early Magic expansion called Legends. --Mrwojo 02:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home page 

message: This confuses me, how come this article doesn't even mention things such as his nationality, age, parents and where he was born? o_O --Muna 01:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article gives enough information for readers to deduce his nationality and age. I think the biography needs better coverage of his involvement in game design, especially post-Magic. --Mrwojo 23:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography - Lacking 

message: I'd like to put forth the suggestion of removing the category "Collectible Card Games."  Although he is important to the genre, he is not a collectible card game which is what the section is predominantly reserved for (with the exceptions being key rules of card games such as "Tap" and "Booster Pack" which are terms commonly used in CCGs).  I'd like to reference WP:Category for the moment to explain the reasoning.
1.  Categories are mainly used to browse through similar articles. Make decisions about the structure of categories and subcategories that make it easy for users to browse through similar articles. 
He is not a card game, the similar articles are all (with the exception to one, which is have a standing discussion suggestion there as well) card games or card game related terms.  There are no other card game creators there making Richard Garfield the only one.
5.  Articles should be placed in categories with the same name. However, the article and the category do not have to be categorized the same way. The article can also be placed in categories populated with similar articles. The category can be put into categories populated with similar subcategories. For an example of this see George W. Bush and Category:George W. Bush. 
There are no similar articles to Richard Garfield in the current category.  They are all card games.
7.  Bend the rules above when it makes sense, but only if no other solution can be found. 
"When it makes sense" is very loose terminology.  In this case it currently makes sense since there is no alternative; however, being the lone wolf of the category I'd like to pose a possible solution.  "Category: Card Game Creators" would be a good option.  There are over 50 CCGs listed, I have no problem personally going into all the creators' pages and adding this to all the creators Wikis. Cadwal 06:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe a new category Card game designers should be made under the category Card games. Or maybe he should be categorized under :Category:Board game designers, as there are other card game designers in there. --Jhattara (Talk · Contrib) 09:24, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest Removing a Category 

message: No mention of his marriage to Lily Wu or how he created a Magic: The Gathering card "Proposal" and several others for major events like the birth of his children. 69.137.101.62 (talk) 07:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: Richard is known by Magic fans throughout the world.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.3.77 (talk) 14:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fame

message: This Richard Garfield appears to be a different person that Richard Garfield, nursing professor at Columbia University.  So this page needs to be renamed, with  Richard Garfield becoming a disambiguation page.  
I suggest that this page be renamed "Richard Garfield (game designer)".  I will thus rename (move) it unless I hear a better idea here. DougHill (talk) 20:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A couple of points: the existence of another person with the same name does not necessarily mean that the page needs to be renamed. The links directing people to this article appear to indicate that he is in fact the primary topic of the search term. Second, while there does appear to be a professor with this name at Columbia University, not all professors are notable under WP:PROF, and the information you've presented doesn't appear to indicate that he qualifies to have his own Wikipedia article. If that's the case, this article's plain title would be unambiguous and the article should return to its previous location. Dekimasuよ! 13:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Dekimasu. The game designer is by far the most well-known person of this name. —Lowellian (reply) 00:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming the page 

message: I don't remember proper protocol, but I deleted a line in the first paragraph saying ",this man became known as GOD".  That's a pretty big citation needed, I'd think. Feel free to delete this note if you like. 76.98.145.131 (talk) 10:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I edited out some junk 

message: Is there a source for this statement? I can't seem to find anything other than a fairly sketchy Korean website that backs this claim, nor can I find any for Garfield's divorce. I've edited it for now; feel free to revert it if evidence does happen to arise. Xiaoqiuyueming (talk) 19:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:ALIVE. Since Garfield is alive, we have to treat this topic differently from normal. "Biographies of living persons ("BLP"s) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy." Also, "The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material." In light of Garfield's personal request, I've eliminated the family section. Leadwind (talk) 00:59, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engagement to Ko-Eun Kim? 

message: I am Richard Garfield. I deleted the personal history section, I respectfully request no history (of relationships) be listed for me. If it must be included then include it correctly, I am divorced, and engaged to Ko-Eun Kim. Also, I INSIST you don't include the names of my children or any information about them. They are minors.Angryangrymouse (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: John Broughton from the BLP Noticeboard stepped in to clarify things for us. He pointed to this section of WP:ALIVE: "The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject." He said that it's a gray area but that we should use our editorial discretion to keep the family material out. Leadwind (talk) 13:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Privacy

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