Talk:Jonathan Spector

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message: They don't count towards the total on the right hand side, they are LEAGUE GOALS so stop adding them..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.205.218 (talk) 20:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carling Cup Goals 

message: Believe in this case Soccerbase is not accurate in recording his League goals for West Ham as 2. On the West Ham site it notes his goal against Derby as being credited by the dubious goals panel as an own goal by Eddie Lewis.  Also noted here .--Egghead06 (talk) 07:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. The 2010/11 Rothmans Sky Sports annual agrees. Had the same thing with a goal that was clearly IMO an own goal but the Dubious Goals Panel credited it to Cameron Jerome, though in his case the FL/PTV stats on his club profile page eventually caught up with reality even if Soccerbase hasn't. It is particularly stupid that the words on Mr Spector's West Ham profile mention the goal being chalked off, but the stats immediate below still include it... I'll revert myself, and add an explicit explanatory note somewhere. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  League goals for West Ham 

message: An assertion that Spector is Jewish was recently added, citing a blog, a Jewish Journal piece, and an online magazine snippet that references the Jewish Journal.
However, Nate Bloom's syndicated column from June 2010 says the Jewish Journal was mistaken in identifying Spector as Jewish, which apparently they did "based simply on the fact that Jonathan's paternal grandfather, Art Spector, an original member of the Boston Celtics basketball team, was identified as Jewish in some sources". The column claims that Art Spector "was either raised Christian or converted to Christianity" and that the other grandparents were not Jewish. Spector himself certainly attended a Catholic high school. (This para loosely copied from the talk page of the editor who added the assertion)
Given the contradictory evidence, I've removed the assertion pending anything convincing, preferably from the mouth of Mr Spector himself, on the matter. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:40, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's sensible -- I'll revisit if a future copy of JSR comes in that bears on the point, as they speak directly with the player or with his representative.  BTW -- online magazines are perfectly fine as RSs (I'm not sure if your above description was meant to denigrate the source) -- and Tablet Magazine is one such RS. Also, as you may or may not know, there are a number of Jews who have attended Christian high schools and colleges; that is not dispositive. Let's see what JSR says.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't intending to disparage the source at all. Meant only that, as the Tablet piece was no more than a namecheck, and explicitly referenced the Jewish Journal piece, it didn't add anything to our knowledge on the subject. Sorry for any confusion. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:26, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Understood.  Best.Epeefleche (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Have not had a chance to check the JSR yet, which bears directly on this.  But I do notice that more recently, in June 2014, the Jewish Chronicle (long-standing publication; founded in 1841) indicated that he was Jewish. More to come. Epeefleche (talk) 20:52, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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