Talk:Denis Leary

message: I have provided the release yearon Leary's album which allegedly contains stolen material, and the Hicks album and video from which the material was allegedly stolen, as the claim that Hicks recorded the material before Leary is obviously central to that allegation.
By the way, that was me. --Thedangerouskitchen 03:36, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material theft 

message: He looks like a deranged insect in this picture, can we get a new one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Cain (talk • contribs) 01:21, 3 June 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a really bad picture of him. One from The Ref would be cool but just anything that doesn't look like a picture someone really creepy snuck up on him for.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.119.142 (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Virgin Suicides, I can't remember him from that movie (I did however watch it with just half an eye), but more interestingly I can't find him on IMDB either. Whilst not entirely an authorative source, it certainly sounds curious that they would forget such a "mainstream" actor in such a "mainstream" movie...
04:22, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies? 

message: In the course of using Google to search for the typo "similiar" (which should be: 'similar') I came upon this page, and made my correction. I didn't notice I was correcting quoted text (Sorry!), and have since reverted my edit. However, if the indented section under the "Material Controversy" header is indeed a quote, I suggest placing a sic sign after the quoted typo. It's exact location in the text is here: "[...]that sounded incredibly similiar to old Hicks[...]". Sorry, again! --Dzhatse 00:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Similiar" 

message: Here are two consecutive sentences which may be contradicting each other:
"The friendship ended abruptly as a result. Leary has said he wanted to patch things up before Hicks died in 1994, though this confession happened several years after Hicks' death.
While it has never been proven conclusively that Leary actually leeched any of his jokes from other comedians other than from Hicks (a claim which he fiercely denies), some comedians (notably Joe Rogan and Greg Giraldo as pro-Hicks comedians against Leary) and especially fans loyal to Hicks consider aspects of Leary's act and persona to be stolen."
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What is this saying? The first sentence seems to be saying that Leary confessed to stealing Hicks' material, but the second sentence makes it unclear as to whether Leary is fiercely denying having stolen Hicks' material, or fiercely denying having stolen OTHERS' material... if it's latter, wording is confusing and the statement that these claims are coming from "pro-hicks" comedians is part of the reason for the confusion, making it seem like a reference to Hicks' material being the allegedly stoeln material in question.
If it's the former and Leary is fiercely denying having stoeln Hicks' material, then these two statements need to be reconciled as they are totally oppositional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.93.97 (talk) 03:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely Leary could just have wanted to kiss and make up regardless of any guilt? Orbtastic 20:50, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I read it to mean that he confessed that he wanted to sort things out with Bill Hicks, not necessarily that he was admitting to stealing his act. It doesn't seem to be a contradiction to me, but some sources would help! ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThunderPeel2001 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification Needed 

message: This line:
This new fund was established because the families of the Worcester fire were selfish and did not want to include New York families into the fund; as a result Leary created a separate fund for New York.
Is including the description of the familes being "selfish" based on fact or rumor/opinion?  It doesn't seem appropriate if it's merely the opinion of the author for the families could have perfectly valid reasons behind their decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elsebet (talk • contribs) 01:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Selfish" - opinion or fact? 

message: What was not included in this article that Denis Leary along with Adam Sandler and Colin Quinn were bit players who did sketches for the MTV game show, Remote Control in the late 80s and early 90s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rggca61 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MTV REMOTE CONTROL

message: The article is in the "Libertarians" category, though there is no mention of Leary's being a libertarian in the article itself.  Apparently he described himself as such on the Tom Snyder show in 1998.   I considered incorporating this into the article, but there was no obvious place to put it.  Perhaps a "Trivia" section should be created?  dbtfztalk 02:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: okay now it says he has an "overt affinity" for libertarianism.  Is this encycopaedia speak?  I mean, does it tell the reader if he is a libertarian, if he's a libertarian sympathiser (whatever that is) or does he just consider libertarians to be cute?    Does anyone here who doesn't hate Leary know which it is?  I avoid contributing to articles on things & people I don't like for the whole NPOV thing. - and you will know know me by the trail of dead. (talk) 03:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Libertarian? 

message: There is no talk about hockey in his life -  which is something he's always been very vocal about. He's even mixed hockey into his show, Rescue Me.
He is a HUGE hockey fan, the Bruins (I think but maybe it's the Rangers), he's done a video of some sort with Wayne Gretzky, and has a yearly celebrity hockey game that he does for a charity (or probably his firefighters foundation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivand67 (talk • contribs) 07:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: -- He's a Bruins fan. There is no possible way he would ever be a Rangers fan, and he has a close relationship w/ Bruins legend Cam Neely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.209.228 (talk) 05:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No talk about hockey! 

message: Hello, it's me, Bill Scheft. Yes, I was one of the emcees at Catch a Rising Star in the early-mid 80s. Let me tell you everything I remember. 
My girlfriend/wife to be, Adrianne Tolsch (also an emcee at Catch), was working in Houston, saw Hicks and told him if he ever got to New York, she would get him an audition for Letterman at the club. He came, she did, he was booked (I'm thinking 83/84), and that's how that started. 
Denis Leary I met at Emerson College during a Catch-sponsored audition for an HBO special, "Campus Comedy," in 1983. He didn't get the show, but I remember him because he was older than the other students. I think he was a graduate teacher. 
Hicks moved to NYC ca.85-86-87. I would bring him up at Catch when he was in town, and remember working with him a lot at Carolines and the Improv. Great guy who loved other comics. He asked me to open for him at the Bottom Line when he recorded his first album, "Relentless" (?), which was a great night. I think you hear my introduction on the album. 
Leary I don't remember seeing again until after he was on MTV. Maybe 88. We did a few shows at Carolines, and then I opened for him at Rascals on the Jersey shore in February, 1990. That I remember because it was the weekend Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson. Denis and I also got along well. We had the Boston sports connection. 
I vaguely remember those shows when they co-headlined at Carolines and I may very well have introduced them to each other. I remember they both had bits about smoking, but, as I recall, they were different enough that they could do them one after the other. There was another topic that was similar. Maybe Catholicism.  
Which,at long last, brings me to my point. And again, this is not a discussion or argument. This is just my experience with these two guys. I was primarily an emcee for years, which meant you saw and knew everyone's act. And sometimes, you had to be the comedy police. You had to take a guy aside after a set and say, "Hey, that's Glenn Hirsch's bit. You can't do that here." Frankly, I never saw it. To me, there was no comparison between the two. Hicks was a prolific writer, get out of the business funny, with a unique presentation. His act was material-driven. Denis was good-looking, familiar-funny like a neighbor or cousin and his act was character-driven. That's why when other comics started talking about Denis stealing shit from Bill, I was surprised. I used to think, "What did I miss? Sure, they trod over some of the same ground, but you can't compare the two." As I said, I never saw it.
(Shameless self-promotion: I gave Denis the line "I smoke, I eat red meat, and I only eat red meat from fucking cows who smoke...." I would never have thought to give Hicks a line. I couldn't pretend to write in his voice, and what did Bill Hicks need with more material?)
Lastly, and I think this bears mentioning, comics love to bring up and point out guys who copped their material ("Hey Bobby, how's my act doing?")to other comics. For whatever reason, Bill Hicks never brought up the Leary thing to me. Never.  
Enough. I'm happy for Denis and I miss Bill. This either clears everything or nothing up. You're right. Nothing. 
70.18.221.92 02:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi Bill, thanks for your input! There's two possible contradictions/misunderstandings here. Firstly, Denis apparently changed his whole persona, ie. the character that he played on stage, which you've got to admit, is pretty similar to Hicks's personality. It's the same angry guy with similar politics. That's nothing, of course, if Leary had always had that character... Secondly, Hicks himself was very upset about what he saw as the theft of his act, as many of his closest friends have attested and even he mentioned in occasional interviews. I don't think Hicks was a bitter or vindictive man, though, and it seems he didn't want to make a fuss of the situation himself.Johnny "ThunderPeel2001" Walker 22:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bill Scheft weighs in

message: I may be an unregistered user here but there is conclusive proof of Leary's thievery. He has released DVD's that are almost verbatim Bill Hicks jokes. Almost verbatim because his comedic timing and delivery in no way match that of the original joke teller. You can argue all you want about it but its out there and no ammount of saying "thats not evidence" will stop that. Also, your stupid book when you made the comment that if there is anything you dont like "Bill Hicks wrote that", i feel like pointing out that Leary's comedy is drivel and stupid anger and that Bill Hicks material...i liked. Shove your book up your ass Leary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.34.46 (talk) 11:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is not conclusive proof of thievery. There are DVDs of Leary's material, but where is the DVDs or CDs of Hicks making the same jokes first? Leary having a similar persona, smoking and being caustic, is not proof. Telling jokes about the same subjects that were in the news, like Jim Fixx and Judas Priest fans' suicides, is not proof. There needs to be citations of the wording, the punchlines, the material itself. It seems like there's a bit of a crusade here by Hicks' fans who see him as a kind of a saint because he died young, and Leary as crude because he became famous on MTV and playing obnoxious characters. I've listened to all of Hicks and Leary's albums, and I consider Hicks to be more sophisticated but both were funny albums that I enjoyed. Unless there is real evidence of blatant theft, then it's pointless to attack Leary just because he lived to be successful. He has talent of his own and did his material in a style that is distinct from Hicks. Saying they sound the same does Hicks a disservice, because whereas Leary had an over-the-top character voice, screaming and ranting in an exaggerated tone, Hicks spoke more in his own voice and had a more thoughtful, pessimistic tone. They don't sound the same to me at all. That's one subtle way in which Hicks is better, and if you think Leary is copying Hicks then you don't get Hicks. If you're saying Leary is ripping off Hicks material then quote them with sources. Walterego (talk) 23:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Conclusive proof

message: Is there a reason this says he's an alcoholic?  It's unsourced - possibly vandalism?  It seems strange to use "alcoholic" in the line that defines him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.26.124 (talk) 03:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken it out as unsourced. Good catch, the blank edit a couple hours later probably threw off people's watchlists. -- Jonel | Speak 03:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alcoholism: vandalism? 

message: 6/12/07 NYTimes mentions....
:"...the recent pickup by Fox of “Canterbury’s Law,” a drama about a troubled criminal defense lawyer shepherded by Mr. Leary’s production company," — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.34.8 (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: old posts

message: In Bill Hicks section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.180.204 (talk) 21:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed POV edit 

message: Did Denis Leary ever use the name O'Leary, which would have been the original name of his father.  Leary is uncommon in Ireland, but many Irish immigrants removed the O on arrival in the USA.--Dmol (talk) 20:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did he ever use the name O'Leary. 

message: I am new to wikipedia, so please excuse any faux pas.  I saw that there was no article for his film "Final", so I made one.  Since then the entire article and any mention of it in the Denis Leary wiki has been deleted.  This film is incredible and deserves exposure.  If my article was not up to wiki standards, I am sorry.  Can someone please make a suitable article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.76.98.151 (talk) 08:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Film 

message: there is no mention of denis leary here. Machete97 (talk) 15:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  family guy episode ? 

message: Just saw this on TV and it sounded a lot like him. Noticed it's not yet on his page, I do a YouTube search so I could source for you guys on here and what do you know. He's even in the tags for the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnfE5zODgak mcnichoj (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ford Commercial 

message: Leary plagiarized most of the lyrics from his song, "usage of the word f*ck" from a humorous speech given by the Indian mystic, Osho, in 1984. Most of the lyrics in the song are taken from Osho's speech, verbatim, which was delivered before Leary's career had even started.
Here are a couple links for proof.
the lyrics to Leary's song:
http://www.actionext.com/names_d/dennis_leary_lyrics/usage_of_the_word_fuck.html
and the original speech by Osho:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI
I'm utterly shocked that no one has noticed this as of yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.68.184 (talk) 02:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: plagiarism Concerns from the Indian mystic Osho

message: I would like to comment on this article: http://www.911blogger.com/node/18702
Specifically the link on that article to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsISjkXvKI
What is Leary thinking? He is an intelligent guy but the comments he makes on this issue are so easily proved to be false that the comedian has become the joke. I mean, it is almost as if he is trying to make himself look stupid. If he is going to defend the original conspiracy theory, fine. But Denis, please, do it more intelligently and stop making yourself look like a fool. I enjoy your comedy and Rescue me - please stop making yourself look like an idiot.
Should not his outspoken co-star and friend on 'Rescue Me', Daniel Sunjata, point out the obvious floors in Leary's child-like commentry on the reason WTC7 collapsed?
I do not knock Leary for having his opinion, but I have seen kids state what he has stated and far better. Leary appears like he doesn't care about sounding like a fool in his explaining. Blatent mistake sin his reasoning and descriptions.
See Talk:Rescue_Me_(TV_series)#Season_5_.26_9.2F11_Conspiracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.24.33 (talk) 08:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 9/11

message: Denis Leary was a guest on the Daily Show in May 2009. Sincerally, C6541 (T↔C) at 01:13, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daily Show 

message: Who did Denis Leary get his material from?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.240.90 (talk) 10:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Bill Hicks evidently.--Senor Freebie (talk) 01:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Material

message: Today Denis Leary (again) said his parents were "Illegal Immigrants" -- Proud of it, as most Bay Staters are of all productive working-class people of the united states, legal or not. [quote] I was raised by illegal-alien Irish immigrants who taught me that anything worth having is worth suffering for so the desire to clear up a heavy bout of back pain by ingesting a handful of Vitamin A (known as Advil to the occasional user) is well-worth whatever possible future damage it may do to my liver, brain or eyeballs (I'm not exactly sure of what side effects Advil may produce because I've never bothered to read the warnings on the label -- the print is too small and I can never find my glasses). [/quote]  Beerdiver (talk) 23:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parents  

message: I'm not sure if there is a policy on this, but is it necessary to identify him as Irish-American in the opening paragraph?  He was born in the U.S., so that's only his ethnicity, not his nationality. Trektosaturday (talk) 19:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:OPENPARA states "Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability."  GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks! :D Trektosaturday (talk) 03:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish-American? 

message: I think listing every talk show Leary has appeared on overshadows the acting work he's done.  I suggest that we trim the TV shows section to only include those shows where he's appeared as an actor or performed standup.  Thoughts?  GoingBatty (talk) 21:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for trimming this section.  Should The Rosie O'Donnell Show also be removed, or was his appearance more than just a regular talk show appearance?  GoingBatty (talk) 04:55, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trim TV shows section 

message: A few minutes ago I was flipping through a TV lineup and stopped when I saw a show where someone was vandalizing this entry.  It was "adult swim" on the Cartoon Network.  I see there are a lot of IP vandalism edits lately; this is presumably the reason... and sho'nuff, it just happened again. Wnt (talk) 01:10, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invited vandalism