Talk:List of Case Closed characters

message: It seems likely to me that this needs more grammatical edits than average. I'm going to be trying to take them all out, so if I accidentally change information from what you think is true, then change it back. But please, try to use proper English, as the alternative is sloppy. Devon.underwood (talk) 17:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree. I have also rewritten some articles though I have not been adding references. An issue that has come up is the changing of tenses. I believe wiki states it should be written in present tense (see in-universe). The muddling of tenses just makes a mess. Also, I will from now on start adding references when possible while editing. Copse (talk) 13:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This page hasn't been cleaned up that's why. If I have alot of spare time, I could finish reffing and rewriting to the level equal to List of characters in Tales of Symphonia. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 22:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, linked, 150 references, Minor Reception created. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 04:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar 

message: Hmmm..... The information on this character seems to be off. I have read the entire manga up-to-date and thus far there is absolutely NO indication that Kaitou Kid has discovered that Conan Edogawa is actually Shin'ichi (Jimmy). While it is true that he knows that Conan is a detective (and a very capable one at that) and that he knows that Conan is the one solving all the cases when he is around, I do not think that this warrants the comment that "Curiously, Kaitou discovers Conan's true identity, but keeps his secret..." If anything, it is a question of whether Conan can now figure out Kaitou's true identity now that he has knocked the monocle off of Kaitou's face (632, Instant Movement). Also, someone might think of adding in the fact that Conan recently found out that his dad also went one on one with and thus also tried to capture the original Kaitou Kid (572, Broad Daylight). SayerSong (talk) 20:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read up to what's been legally released in America, or in Japan? Japan is very far head of American releases so it's possible Kid learns his idenity in the future. I've read up to what's been released in America leggally, and all the episodes Funimation released is far, and he has not learned who Conan is. If you read all of what's been released in Japan, and that info is incorrect feel free to change it and make corrections. - Prede (talk) 20:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Even up to the latest manga releases (I got it legally, no less), if we go by manga, Kid did not know Conan's identity.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 02:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Backing up the above, in the manga and anime (as of 21st March 2012) Kaitou Kid does not know Conan's identity. The only media he does know in is the movies, where he helps to cover up for Conan by disguising as... Jimmy (nearly wrote Shinichi there :/). Movie 3, in case anyone else wants to check. Though people should probably keep in mind that the manga is canon above the movies and anime so officially Kaitou Kid doesn't know Conan's identity :).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.244.123 (talk) 21:17, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaitou Kid 

message: I believe some boxes such as Jimmy Kudo or Conan Edogawa may be removed as their Kanji, English, and Japanese names are already in the text.DragonZero (talk) 19:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there really any need to have the name boxes for characters who have their own pages, anyways? It just seems like needless clutter to me.kuwabaratheman (talk) 19:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll start putting nihingo's on the names and removing the boxes then. If anyone has a problem with this revert it.DragonZero (talk) 23:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Boxes 

message: *Setting the characters to the formats of The Kudo Family, The moore Family, and the Junior Detective league.
*Creating a page for the Junior Detective League and merging Character articles in there.
I would like some assistance with those.DragonZero (talk) 08:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing any reason for creating a page for the Junior Detective League at this time. Why do you feel they should have individual articles? The main project for this page should be cleaning it up, cutting down the excessive plot, dealing with the in-universe info, adding the much needed referencing, doing character merges to merge in those without real-world notability and trying to improve the overall quality.  List of Naruto characters should be the guiding example for this work. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 04:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I guess that ideal will be dropped.DragonZero (talk) 04:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current projects for this page 

message: :Tentative oppose: There's a lot of information that can be given on the character, although third party sources could possess a problem, especially since I don't believe the English releases have reached his first appearance yet. But given his large role, I would vote in favor of trying to clean up the article and revisit this in a month or two if we can't improve it significantly.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Shuichi Akai]]

message: :Support: Important character, but only around in the series for a comparatively short amount of time. No real chance of making a good article about him at this point.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Eisuke Hondou]]

message: :Support: Nowhere near as notable as Akai or Jodie when it comes to the FBI agents.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[James Black (Case Closed)]]

message: :Support: Similar logic to Eisuke. She doesn't even really need her own article, even before we consider third party sources.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Rena Mizunashi]]

message: :Support: Support, same reasons as with Ayumi and Genta.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mitch Tennison]]

message: :Merge to Black Organization (Case Closed), which is her logical home.kuwabaratheman (talk) 05:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Akemi Miyano]]

message: :Support or Merge all: "They [...] have no significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources and are incapable of reaching GA status." That may change someday, but right now, these articles are nothing but paraphrased plot summaries. -- Goodraise (talk) 06:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't a deletion discussion, it is a merge discussion. If there is consensus and support for splitting out the Detective Kids, the information can still be found in the old version of the article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 04:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: General

message: Can someone make a caption of the names of the characters for the pictures?DragonZero (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming for picture 

message: Gin, Vodka, Vermouth, etc. Have non-wine names in the Viz manga. I do not remember what they are, though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.26.89.233 (talk) 03:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Organization Names 

message: To anyone interested, I will be merging Rachel Moore, Richard Moore (Case Closed), and Shiho Miyano unless some reliable source with their notability is found. Just post the sources here and I can get to work. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. They are not considered reliable because its user edited and does not pass Wikipedia:Notability. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 2 

message: Whoever merged this didn't think about what they were taught at Primary School because this page is lacking pictures and it goes on like a boring article which you will find old reference books. Also this page only have key facts and some facts which doesn't always need reference but everyone will know about it are not on here! I'm sure that all of us who uses wiki would want the old case closed back and how back you bring it back for now and then you can collect information on the characters, once you have enough information you can add it on. Then it will be "The Best of Both Worlds!"
Chingster (talk) 18:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Too bad the one who merged it is a high school student who knows what an encyclopedia looks like. Unless the characters can pass Wikipedia:Notability, it won't be unmerged. Look at List of Naruto characters. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 18:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I did give fair warning that if notabilities were not established on the certain characters, they would be merged. The notice was up for two weeks on the character articles. The character articles had no ref, were mostly plot related and full of trivia information. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 19:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: i agree with Chingster and if u look carefully most of the characters of naruto has their own full article so pictures or more facts of the charecters in List of Naruto characters is not needed as they are already present in the main article page of each indiviual character like Shikamaru Nara & Orochimaru (Naruto) and the characters who dont hav their own article they hav all the needed facts written in List of Naruto characters like in  Tsunade, Iruka and Hinata's small article at List of Naruto characters so in Case Closed's Character page their should be more facts about the characters present and it should be a little more illustrated since the characters own page cant be made back unlese theres some sources supporting the article 218.248.80.58 (talk) 09:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a vote. Its cause the characters have references that link them to the outside world. "Creation and conception" and "Reception". DragonZero (talk · contribs) 20:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Why are you so arrogant? to be honest if you look at the article List_of_Zatch_Bell!_characters you only got 11 reference to about 25 characters (2 characters per link) and you still expect genuine facts from it! Then why can't Case Closed Characters have the information which was on their old page then? Surely that the facts are more reliably than your 2 characters per link isn't it? So stop being a hypocrite, okay? Just bring the information and pictures back. Pukascape (talk) 17:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the Zatch Bell Characters, which I haven't even cleaned, you'd see its a poor example and that only one character has its own article. What I'm doing perfectly follows the wiki guidelines. If you have a problem with my edits, go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga and discuss it there. Why did you choose such a horrid page to exemplify anyways. Its so full of trivia information. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 19:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Un-Merge

message: *Character names should not be bold (esp here) It is distracting (see 1, 2, 3, 4). You would be surprised how the look & feel of the article improves if all instances of  is removed.
* There are too many minor characters, and most of them may not have enough content to justify a separate section. If they need to be listed, please consider one of the following suggestions:
**Convert come of them (i.e. Junior Detective League, Tokyo Metropolitan Police, FBI, CIA) to bullet lists and add more information about the group itself  (example: List_of_Bobobo-bo_Bo-bobo_characters#Battleship_Five_Quartet). Recommended layout:
***Protagonists = 3
***Antagonists = 1 (Black organisation, bullets for characters) + Other regulars (if any?) 
***Supporting "characters" = 4 (FBI, CIA, JDL, TMP, with bullets under each) + Other regulars)
***Other (everyone else—maybe even in a bullet list as it seems that there is very little content for most of them).
**Alternatively, convert some of the characters to prose that summarizes the group and its members, for example, List_of_GetBackers_characters#Gangs_and_Groups. (Recommended layout may also work here.)
*I would also recommend adding the more "regular" characters to a "supporting characters" section instead of "other". Never put the most content/characters/anything under "other" (Protagonists = 3, Antagonists = 9, Other characters (L2 heading) = 4 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 20 (Other, L3 heading) = 36 = almost 2/3 of characters are listed under "other"
*Reception is still very short (see 1, 2, 3).
* Not sure whether "merchandise" section is needed. Expand, remove or move to reception with and add sales information?
G.A.Stalk 05:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I'll get to it when I have spare time. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I'll just stick to the Naruto or Bleach character list formats, even if this article does not reach B class. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 07:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That should be fine if the content is executed properly.  --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 19:18, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recommendations to get article up to B-class 

message: How are Yamato and Uehara more prominent than the Yokomizo twins? The Yokomizo twins have appeared in many manga and anime cases as the head Inspector, as compared to Uehara and Yamato, who have only appeared in two cases total. Also, how is Reiko Kujo more notable for this article than Chiba? Reiko has only appeared in three cases, none of them from the manga, while Chiba has appeared in a lot of cases, manga and anime, and was even the main detective in a few episodes. Who decided on who was more prominent? 69.112.81.28 (talk) 06:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yokomizo twins have amazingly low impact in the story. Unlike Uehara and Yamato, the plot does not expect the viewers to know who the Yokomizo twins are. The episode summaries do not need to be linked to such un-notable characters. See List of Case Closed episodes (season 18). Reiko Kujo on the other hand can be removed upon debate. Chiba on the other, is only notable in the episode where he was a witness as an alibi to a murderer. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 07:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yamato and Uehara 

message: As I know, in the anime (I watch the fansub) and manga (I read the scanlation), it says "Uehara"... Thx...  Kenrick  Talk 15:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Both and neither. Since their names are Japanese, they is, to my knowledge, no official romaji for them yet. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:22, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Linguistically speaking, it could NOT ever be Euhara... That's not actually a name, and isn't pronounced in the same way at all. "Official" romaji is all very well for series where the characters are given outlandish fantasy names that could be spelled a thousand different ways, but in "Detective Conan", people have names that really exist. "Uehara" is written as 上原. Now, I'll try to replicate that by typing "Euhara". え右原、え鵜原、え宇原、In the end, there are six different possibilities, none of which match Uehara's name. So we can conclude that Euhara is just a horrible mistake. Soul Of Dawn (talk) 12:00, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Euhara or Uehara ?? 

message: Since all the main characters and Antagonist are merged into the article why isint Kaito Kuroba's page merged to it,his page also lacks references so i would suggest to either cite the page or merge it and if it it is merged into the article then out of all Case Closed series characters only  Jimmy Kudo's article will be left so its better to find  reliable sources and if the main antagonist Gin & Vodka would have more info on them and also if there is sources found for Gin,it would b nice if the article on him could be recreated since vodka doesnt act much in the series its not important to recreate the article on him. 117.197.243.58 (talk) 06:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Notability, any characters that pass notability can have its own articles. So Gin won't be recreated, but I'm leaving Kaito un-merged for now since I think I can find notability for him somewhere. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reliable references on the article Kaito Kuroba,its been more than 3 months and no references has been added to the article so i guess Kaito Kuroba should also be merged to List of Case Closed characters as it doesn't pass Wikipedia:Notability.117.197.246.13 (talk) 09:23, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

text: He is the character of both Kid The Phantom Thief(Magic Kaito) And Case Closed and maybe in coming days as the new series started notabilty may be found somewhere
117.197.243.120 (talk) 07:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kaito Kuroba]] 

message: uh why is there no mention of Chiba at all, when he is a fairly commonly shown character?
--75.57.248.202 (talk) 22:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because he's one of the more minor characters. He doesn't even appear in the openings anymore. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 22:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Due to the recent development, I have added Chiba and Yumi. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 21:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  no mention of chiba? 

message: Someone saw fit to undo my addtion of Sera to this list. I don't quite understand why... Having appeared in what seem to be three plot-related cases in a row, and that the series' creator himself  has stated she will be an important character, she's already had more impact than Kujo Reiko who meets the ultra-high standards of this page.
And on an unrelated note, why is almost every occurence of "Gosho" in the References misspelled as "Gasho"? Soul Of Dawn (talk) 11:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because in my long strings of edits cleaning the list last year prior I did not read over what I typed. As for Sera, the section Currently, she is spending a lot of time around Conan, but it remains to be seen whether she is a suspicious character. In a recent interview, Aoyama Gosho revealed she is the sister of a main character, and that she will have a confrontation with Haibara. ; the first line is speculation and the second violates WP:News since its announcing an upcoming confrontation. I don't see a problem adding her if you wish to add her to the article; though I would not add her onto the article until her tie to the main plot is revealed or she receives a voice actress. As for Reiko, adding her made the episode summaries easier, since the viewers are expected to know who she is already. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 16:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sera. 

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message: most of the world use original name not localization one,it's really confusing for everyone outside us. 114.124.176.118 (talk) 13:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change default name to japanese name