Talk:Gender roles in Islam

message: Upon reflection, this article actually does not in anyway deal with the Roles ascribed to the genders in Islam.  it needs a complete Re-write. --Irishpunktom\talk 11:35, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
Formerly there was a section in the Koran or traditions at least that it is not needful for women to pray  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.126.51.120 (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Upon Reflection

message: I believe that there could be more about dress. For example, what specifically can women wear and not wear? Galleg37 (talk) 22:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other gender section 

message: In my reworking of the article I would specifically add the differences between the Salafiyyah and Wasatiyyah points of view on gender roles, and I will back up my statements using quotes from the Quran and the hadith as well as scholars like Shaykh Muhammad al-Ghazali and Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Influences from the West and from cultural practices from the Arab Peninsula will be mentioned. Further discussion will include expected behavior regarding sexual behavior, drive, activities and orientation, as well as gender relations, dress, marriage and divorce, rights and sense of responsibility. Not all of these will have their own sections as many topics overlap. Masculinities will also be mentioned and have its own section as the article title does not imply exclusively female gender roles. 
I continue to ask for suggestions from other Wikipedia users, and I will eventually ask for a review and comments from the Teahouse. A critique from anyone with an Islamic background and suggestions for good passages from the Quran would be very appreciated.
An outline of the article I intend to write:
1 Family (incorporating some of this into “Tradition gender roles”)1. Classical viewpoints (adding new section)
	1.1 Salafiyyah (adding new sub-section)
	1.2 Internationally (adding new sub-section)
		1.2.1 The United States (adding new sub-section)
		1.2.2 Malaysia (adding new sub-section)
		1.2.3 The Middle East (adding new sub-section)
2 Gender roles in prayer and worship (deleting this section) 2. Liberal viewpoints (adding new section)
	2.1 Wasatiyyah (adding new sub-section)
	2.2 Effects of globalization (adding new sub-section)
	2.3 Western influence (adding new sub-section)
3 Gender roles within marriage (deleting this section) 3. Traditional gender roles (adding new section)
3.1 Cultural traditions (adding new sub-section)
4 Other genders (deleting this section) 4. Sexuality and gender roles (adding new section)
5. Masculinities (adding new sub-section)
5 See also (adding new links)
6 References (using more and different sources)  
This is part of a class assignment at Rice University.
(Cebrown721 (talk) 03:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Plan for reworking the article

message: Cebrown721, very good edits done to this article!  You have organized the information well and added a lot of needed content.  One suggestion to add to this article would be linking to other Wikipedia articles.  Overall however, I think you are doing good work to an underrepresented article.  AllyBremer (talk) 00:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits to page

message: The article on Mohammad Akram Nadwi tells us that he has written a biographical dictionary of the muhaddithat, the female scholars of Islam. Expecting to find a handful, after eight years he had discovered more than 8000, from as long ago as Umm al-Darda, the wife of one of the companions of the Prophet. The book runs to 53 volumes.
It might be useful to work this in somewhere. 
I was led to this discovery by an article about Akram by Carla Powell in The Daily Telegraph Magazine, 14 Nov 15 or possibly 7 Nov, pages 77-81. Powell is clearly interested in the subject. She has just published a book on it called If the oceans were ink.
Budhen (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mohammad Akram Nadwi]] 

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message: Hi, I am adding to the "heehee" section of this page.
VHinojosa786 (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit 

message: Hello! I am researching a few things such as islamic religion, premarital and marital sex, and adding some citations to the page. Looking forward to collaborating on this page! This is for a class project.JaneDoe023 (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to page 

message: Hello, 
I have added some citations to the pre-marital, marital and Extral martial section. I am currently doing some more research on this topic since this is a very interesting page to work upon. A.Thousand.Wishes (talk) 21:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Citations 

message: Greetings,
Adequate and nuanced overview for even non– Muslim audience is expected out of the articles Muslims and Muslim world. Whether the articles are achieving that purpose adequately? Requesting and expecting proactive participation in providing inputs from non–Muslim audience too along with Muslim users.     
Since the article Muslim world is tagged various improvements it can not be submitted to formal review process still I feel the article deserves more inputs for content improvement. 
Requesting your visit to the articles 
* Muslims and 
* Muslim world 
:: and provide your inputs @ 
* Talk:Muslims/Archive 8#Requesting inputs and 
* Talk:Muslim world#Requesting inputs 
Thanks
 Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 06:45, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting inputs 

message: Family
Some reformist and feminist scholars argue that the concept of guardianship has formed the basis of particular gender roles in Muslim societies. Women are often expected to be obedient wives and mothers, staying within the familial environment. Meanwhile, men are expected to be the protectors and caretakers of their families.[2] However, the majority of Muslim scholars agree that women are not obligated to serve their husbands, do housework, or do any kind of work at home.[9][10] In Shari'a, it is regarded as permissible for a woman to go out for work if she has the consent of her husband. If there is no mutual consent, then it is not permissible for her to go out and work.[11] Until the period of the rise of Islam, there were many ideas of certain actions and behaviors of women that should be expected that were considered traditional gender roles. Women were seen as inferior to men, and women were supposed to behave and respect men. In earlier times, women were seen as the housekeepers and relied on their husbands to protect them since they were not strong enough to take care of themselves.[12]
According to Sayyid Qutb, a prominent member of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood in the 1950s and 1960s, the Quran "gives the man the right of 'guardianship' or 'superiority' over the family structure to prevent dissension and friction between the spouses. The equity of this system lies in the fact that God both favored the man with the necessary qualities and skills for the 'guardianship' and also charged him with the duty to provide for the structure's upkeep." Qutb's ideologies are still impactful for radical Islamists today, influencing such prominent Middle Eastern leaders as Ayman Zawahiri and terrorists as Osama bin Laden.[13]
In Islamic culture, the roles played by men and women are equally important. Gender roles viewed from an Islamic perspective are based on the Qur'an and emphasize the dynamic structure of the family.[14] As in any socio-cultural group, gender roles vary depending on the conservative or liberal nature of the specific group.
Although there are no elaborate roles for men and women in the Qur'an, it is strongly implied that each gender provides equally significant contributions to the family realm.
Chapter 4, in verse 34, in the Qur'an, states that "men are the maintainers of women,"[15] due to them providing for their family. It is implied that a noble "husband’s responsibilities commit him to support his wife and children, provide education for his offspring, be kind and attentive to his spouse, and be good to his affine”.[16] These values have remained rather consistent throughout the history of Islam. It is culturally understood that women do, and should, rely on men. This is viewed not as a restricting reliance, but as an arrangement to protect women from the distress and inconveniences of the public arenas.[16] It is because of this ideology that women traditionally do not contribute to the household financially, leaving men to be the sole breadwinners.
The woman's role in the home, although different from that of men, is also of great value and importance in Islamic culture. In earlier times, from a very young age, girls traditionally grew up in the women's quarters of the house called the harem. The harem was that part of the house where the female members of the family and household lived. It was normally out of bounds to all males except the master of the house, his sons and perhaps a physician.[17] Here, young girls were familiarized with domestic activities[17] and were taught Islamic laws and values. 196.191.68.108 (talk) 08:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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