Talk:Pachinko

message: The last paragraph of the heading provides the revenue of the pachinko industry and then compares it to the profit of the casino gambling and narcotics industries.  At best this is unhelpful, at worst it is misleading.  The sentence should be revised with revenue/revenue comparisons or removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhoriman (talk • contribs) 02:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Comparison 

message: I read this article and most of the information seems based on the editor's opinion and knowledge. There are no sources to backup most of the information in this article.
: Seconded. The whole article reads like a personal research project, minus sources to lend credence to any of the claims. As much of the anecdotal evidence and claims lacking sources have sat there for months on end, I'm going to trim them. Until we have sources to back up claims that staff members remotely manipulate machine payouts while customers are playing, (as just one example) such info can't remain. --Lets Enjoy Life (talk) 03:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is so awful and has been flagged for so many YEARS as needing sourcing that I've taken the fairly unusual step of tagging it to a rather severe level, so that it is patently clear what must be sourced. I also fully intend to delete large portions of this article by January 2012 if they are not sourced, because it cannot continue sitting here year after year violating basic Wikipedia policies like WP:V and WP:NOR. Just putting a note at the top of the page obviously had no effect at all in over 3 years, since not only was unsourced material not sourced, a bunch of total crap was added instead, so it's time to play hardball.  I've cleaned up the article a bit, including fixing the total misrepresentation of a reliable source, and removing blatant original research and unreliably-sourced gambler's fallacy hogwash.  But the bulk of this article remains unsourced and some of it's just plain wrong. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 05:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article badly needs sources 

message: The article someone else found (see archives) at http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/04/06/pachinko-designs/ actually has a lot of useful information in it and while rather toward the loose side of secondary, seems to be reliable enough for the basics, including many facts not mentioned in our article (where pachinko was introduced, the fact that the games are very noisy like American slots, so on and so forth). — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 05:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Useful source

message: I need some verification that Japan has children's version of pachinko which are played at night markets, fairs, and festivals.  I know both Japan and Taiwan sells toy pachinkos made of bright colored plastic and uses small metal balls.  But, the one I am refering to as the children pachinko is home-made using wood, nails, and glass marbles which are cheaper than steel ones.  I know Taiwan night markets have them when I was a kid there, we redeem glass marbles for toys and candy.  Anyone know about Japan's side of things?
:RE: Bro, I can confirm that, and comment on the one previous about online pachinko. I live in Japan, and yeah, they do have both Pachinko for kids at 祭り or "matsuri" (Festival in direct translation.) I have not seen very many wooden or homade looking ones (although yes, on occasion)', but I have often seen pachinko or pachisuro machines at matsuri that just looked like old machines that are no longer being used, and for "fun" - In game arcades, karaoke, hotel lobbys, department stores-Everywhere! Its "entertainment"- many of the games are based around manga etc.,
:Where can I post pics to verify this? 
:—Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.102.203.105 (talk) 15:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can upload pictures to http://commons.wikimedia.org if they are your own photos, and they'll automatically become part of Wikipedia's available pool of images, internally. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 05:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

text: The article still doesn't mention anything about this. But please don't add anything without reliable sources. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 05:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children's pachinko 

message: I've declared Pachinko the December 2011 Collaboration of the Month for all of the projects within the scope of which the article falls.  It badly needs work, especially sourcing.  Since it is based on the ja.wiki version of the article, and most of the sources will be in Japanese, it could obviously use some help from someone who knows the language.  Basically, the article has a lot of information, but virtually none of it is sourced.  It has some suspect "information" in it (I removed most of the blatant WP:NOR and WP:NOT#HOWTO violations), and it is also missing historical information prior to around 1920. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 09:29, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Article improvement

message: I have evaluated the article Pachinko as High-importance. Pachinko parlors are an ubiquitous feature of any large town or city in Japan, new games are constantly designed and are much anticipated, and pachinko-addiction has been a major social and legal issue over the years. While pachinko has been a source of recreation or entertainment, it has also been grounds for bankruptcy and divorce, and fueled organized crime. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:18, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance evaluation 

message: I was told recently, in the context of a Japanese online game () that some "law related to pachinkos" set up to prevent giving out awards in incomplete parts (presumably so that players would have to keep playing to complete a reward) messes up with online games. Could anyone verify this, and add some information like - which law is it? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:37, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unintended consequences of a law about pachinkos 

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message: there should be a section about the negative effects of pachinko on society and gaming addiction... Teemeah  편지 (letter)  21:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Found a source and started that section on the page. It's basic and could use some fleshing out with more sources. MellowSandwich (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  addiction 

message: I remarked to a friend last night (in allusion to Turing Tumble) that I don't think I've ever seen a Pachinko machine in the U.S. She averred that there was Federal law, but if so I have been unable to track it down. kencf0618 (talk) 00:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean there's a U.S. federal law banning pachinko, that's completely untrue. A lot of Nishijin pachinko machines were imported into the U.S. during the 1970s and were even sold in Sears catalogs. My aunt and uncle used to have a 1970s-era Nishijin pachinko machine but I don't think it was functioning. Bumm13 (talk) 09:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Federal Law...?!? 

message: This article multiple times makes the point that pachinko playing is gambling for money via the fiction of tokens or "special prizes". It probably ojnly needs to be said once or twice. 203.13.3.94 (talk) 01:45, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant repetition 

message: Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(franchise)#Pachinko
and
Fist_of_the_North_Star#Pachinko vs this article Pachinko#Franchises
Any explanation for the difference here? the difference is upward to  4+ billion. thanks 
Edit: It was answered by Maestro here Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises WillsEdtior777 (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference in Pachinko revenue between articles