Template talk:Paranormal

message: This template is meant to link up main articles related to paranormal beliefs. It may be a good idea to remain minimalistic here. Please don't spam. --Nealparr (talk to me) 07:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Purpose

message: Science is dependent on reproducible registration by human sensations. We all know that science has alot of limitation in what we know! About human life and death itself we are not knowing many things. And we must accept that science is the name of continous search and change. For all these reasons I feel we should be cautious about denying existence of otherside of the nature which remains unexplored and we should leave that to our future generations. May be some day we know them all!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmanku (talk • contribs) 22:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Science, Paranormal and Limitations of Science 

message: Keeping it simple would be just a list of articles. That is useful. Having the articles and the skeptical ones makes it a "ya but this is why they are all false" kind of billboard. Tom Butler (talk) 21:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Deleting the opposing POV makes it violate NPOV. It should cover all significant sides of the subject. There are far too many articles listed. It's not supposed to be a duplication of the contents of the Category. This old version looks much better. It should also show the Category. -- Brangifer (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you insist on including skeptical then balance it with science and reasons for conflict. Otherwise lets delete the whole thing.Tom Butler (talk) 00:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't include everything in one navbox. I have reverted to Brangifer's version as I think it is best -- balanced and not too big. But if this does not suit others I am not against deleting the whole thing. Johnfos (talk) 01:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep it simple

message: I have added Scientific literacy to the "Related articles on Social change and Parapsychology" section. A major issue for people interested in these subjects is the lack of guidance from mainstream science. Except for a handful of academically trained researchers in parapsychology, there is virtually no culture of science leadership within the frontier subject community. In the sense intended by the National Science Foundation, improved education would probably change the character of how these subjects are viewed by people in the frontier subject community. Tom Butler (talk) 17:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Scientific literacy

message: I would like to add Orb (paranormal) to the template, if this is acceptable. Thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 14:51, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition to template

message: After adding this Navbox to a large set of UFO related articles (as well as other woo items), another editor deleted all the UFO ones claiming the topic is not Paranormal. This despite me pointing out that WikiProject Paranormal flagged the articles, and the Navbox itself has UFOs in its list. Please see the discussion here. Anyone care to join in the argument on that page? If not, the Paranormal boxes will likely stay off. RobP (talk) 16:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No opinions on this? RobP (talk) 01:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry for the late response, but I think that you are right that the UFO phenomenon is usually classified under the paranormal.  Among reasons for this would be claims of telepathic communication, teleportation, lost time, conflation of E.T. and spiritual beings, channelings, etc...  —PaleoNeonate – 16:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  So will you support adding the Para banner to articles such as Roswell? RobP (talk) 01:05, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I just added my comment there, thanks for the reminder.  —PaleoNeonate – 12:15, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Provide us with irrefutable evidence that anything paranormal exists, and I will support this. This is a quality encyclopaedia, not a platform for people's paranoia and non-scientific beliefs.  HiLo48 (talk) 22:20, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: A similar example is the historical Jesus and miracles of Jesus which are of interest to both history and religion.  While actual physical or optical illusions (sightings labeled as UFO) exist (and an influential man named Jesus may have existed), the UFO culture has a lot to do with the paranormal and occult/paranormal encyclopedias include UFO material.  I don't personally believe in the paranormal.  But a few popular examples: many claim to telepathically communicate with aliens.  "Abductions" often are a result of sleep paralysis (before UFOs were popular, people interpreted these as demon attacks, the mare, etc).  Things like the disclosure project often reveal to be a type of new-age UFO religion...  "Ancient alien theorists" usually incorporate that as part of their creation myth (i.e. to justify the arrival of the human species).  —PaleoNeonate – 22:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

text: *  —PaleoNeonate – 23:34, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding: The above source is not to source my previous paragraph which was written before I found it, only to show an example of how tightly UFO and occult/paranormal are related.  But at the same time I respect the view that it could appear to support belief in the paranormal (I never had that impression, however).  That above mini-encyclopedia for instance doesn't preach about the paranormal but just documents many paranormal related subjects; I would expect our templates and articles on the subject to also avoid promoting it, of course.  —PaleoNeonate – 02:49, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  UFOs not paranormal? 

message: What exactly is going on in the "main article" section of this template? Almost all of these entries are simply examples of folklore, many of them ghostlore. Exactly what qualifies something to become a part of this section? From what I can tell, this portion of the template appears to be a grab bag of whatever editors deemed to be 'weird' some time in the past (UFOs, fairies, ghosts) and should simply be removed. In fact, it's unclear to me what exactly the purpose of this template is today, particularly in light of the fact that we now have, say, WP:Folklore. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, Will-o'-the-wisp is somehow a main article? I don't think the template is useless, as the word has its uses (take the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal). There's crossover between folklore and paranormal/pseudoscientific claims - reports of a Mothman can be studied as examples of folklore, but insisting that there is some kind of "real" extradimensional entity is a paranormal claim. --tronvillain (talk) 19:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Will-o'-the-wisp had longstanding weighting in favor of the paranormal (e.g. headers like "Attempted scientific explanations" and zero mainstream views in the lead) but I've fixed them. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for checking this stuff out, folks. I'll go ahead and gut the template of the problem items and check out their respective articles, and we can go from there. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've pruned a bunch of items that seemed inappropriate, like common features of folklore across the world. I've noticed, however, that the article for supernatural needs to be completely rewritten (Talk:Supernatural#Article_Needs_a_Total_Rewrite). What a mess! :bloodofox: (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Main articles" 

message: I am new to Wikipedia, but I was wondering why the article Lucid Dreaming is listed in this paranormal template under the Parapsychology section? Although lucid dreaming attracts a lot of New-Age/Spiritual people, it's a scientifically-backed phenomena that has been documented for years in various studies (such as the 1975 Hearne study included in its article), and one that many people experience regularly. It is a naturally-occurring event and thus, I feel that it is misleading for it to be included in this "Paranormal" template under the "Parapsychology" section.
What do you all think? Suuvah (talk) 17:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucid Dreaming in "Parapsychology" Section