Talk:633 Squadron

message: The article has been amended to state that the film is based on a true story.  However, 633 squadron definitely never existed.  Is the suggestion that a different squadron carried out a similar attack?  If so which, when and where? Is there an article on Wikipedia or elsewhere about the real attack that the film is based on?  If so we should link this article to the one about the real attack otherwise we should not make this claim and  revert the statement.  Shimbo 20:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The squadron is listed as fictional in Wikipedia's remarkably comprehensive listing of RAF squadrons, so deletion of the claim about the reality of the squadron appears justified. The question of whether the story was based on real mission(s) is a separate issue, and would certainly make a useful addition to this entry. Robma 23:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was a famous RAF attack on the Gestapo's headquarters in Copenhagen, Denmark. I'll look out some details if I can, but I'm pretty sure this is the incident which the film reflects, albeit with almost all the details changed. From memory, I think that it was Mosquito aeroplanes which were used. – Kieran T (talk) 15:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: True Story?

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message: I am not at all sure that Grant survives in the film - although he unquestionably does in the book. He crash lands the Mosquito and his navigator, having hauled him out of the burning plane, asks "Where does it hurt, Skipper?" Grant replies "All over" with a laconic smile and then his head rolls back, eyes shut, in a gesture which I have always taken to mean death. PDAWSON3 (talk) 20:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Grant die? 

message: After the factory was destroyed, why did the two surviving Mosquitos head back down the heavily-defended fjord, rather than around or over? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ack! Ack! 

message: I'm surprised the article makes no mention of this, although I note that the Dam Busters article does actually include a brief note. The film is about a specially-selected air crew who are trained for a secret mission to destroy a seemingly-impregnable target using new, specially-designed bombs (the "earthquake bombs" used in the film are based on a real-life design by none other than Barnes Wallace); numerous bomb runs are attempted before the target is finally destroyed; when it does finally start to collapse the phrase "It's going!" is heard in both films; beforehand, several planes are either shot down, or crash because they fly too close to cliffs. Furthermore, both films have iconic theme tunes, and they've both been cited as influences on the Death Star trench run. Lee M (talk) 16:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities to ''[[The Dam Busters (film)|The Dam Busters]]'' 

message: Copy/edit from submissions: "Related Trivia; Cinema-goers in the late 1960s who paid to see 663 Squadron and The Great Escape as part of a double feature in the UK's Odeon chain of cinemas were rather puzzled to see Angus Lennie, in the same RAF uniform, in both movies. If viewed in that order, Lennie's character appears to be the sole survivor of 633 Squadron only to go 'wire happy' and get shot dead while trying to climb a barbed fence in The Great Escape. Gillibrand (John Meillon) achieved new fame late in life as sidekick "Wally" in the movie Crocodile Dundee but he was also in the post-nuclear holocaust movie On The Beach. In that film he plays a US seaman who deserts Gregory Peck's submarine to 'go home' to a dead San Francisco. Johnny Briggs (whose character was killed in the 633 Squadron training scenes) had a small role in Sink The Bismarck but achieved later UK fame in the long-running TV soap opera Coronation Street."
:While interesting, trivia is "frowned upon" and has to be replaced by verifiable and documented facts. I am placoing this section here unitl citations can be forthcoming. FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 19:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Newest edits can be problematic

message: In the novel the target is a hydro-electric plant producing heavy water for the Nazis nuclear program. IIRC from the book (it is a long time since I last read it) standard bombs are used, but the aircraft need to invert at the last minute to 'fling' the bombs up into an overhang, which then crashes down onto the plant. The overhang has the local name "Trolls Head".
The squadron are depicted as one of the RAFs premier light-bomber units, initially flying Boston bombers and receive Mosquitos in order to carry put the mission against the plant in Norway.
In my opinion the original books would make an excellent series of TV serials.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loates Jr (talk • contribs) 11:16, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I love the Jericho ( sic Fortitude ) raid , successful in both the raid and fooling the germans in concentrating their forces at pas de calais. I adore the De Havilland Mosiquito. 82.31.0.89 (talk) 18:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The original novel 

message: The part where they need to fly through a narrow valley armed with ant aircraft missiles and then hit a small target is identical to the Top Gun: Maveric. Also the pre mission training in a different land shape. 81.166.170.26 (talk) 09:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  This sound very similar to the plot of 2022 Top Gun: Maveric