Talk:Alexandria Troas

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I removed the statement that Julius Caesar wanted to move the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Alexandria Troas, which is derived by the Catholic Encyclopedia. I do not know where the CA took this information, but it is quit unprobable that Caesar wanted to move the capital of a non-existing empire.--Panairjdde 09:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, there is indeed a tradition in the ancient sources of Julius Caesar planning to move the capital of the Roman Empire to Alexandria Troas (I came across the reference in Nisbet and Hubbard's Horace commentary Vol. 3), but this is not something to be taken as straight historical fact: it is an example of Julius Caesar emulating Alexander the Great, or rather writers in the last 1st century BC making it look like Caesar emulated Alexander. A story like this (which has important things to tell us about the perception of what kind of place Alexandria Troas was in Antiquity) therefore belongs to a section on the reputation of the city at different periods of its history. Secondly, there can be (and was) a Roman Empire before there was a Roman emperor; indeed, as Claude Nicolet points out in L'inventaire du monde: géographie et politique aux origines de l'Empire romain (1988), most of Rome's imperialism happened before the reign of Augustus, and very little after. Ajcee7 (talk) 11:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Where is this information from? It seems somehow strange and anachronistic to me.--80.141.236.250 (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone has confused Alexandria Troas with Ilium and is also treating the Iliad as history. Ajcee7 (talk) 11:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: I removed the statement that Julius Caesar wanted to move the capital of the Roman Empire from Rome to Alexandria Troas, which is derived by the Catholic Encyclopedia. I do not know where the CA took this information, but it is quit unprobable that Caesar wanted to move the capital of a non-existing empire.--Panairjdde 09:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, there is indeed a tradition in the ancient sources of Julius Caesar planning to move the capital of the Roman Empire to Alexandria Troas (I came across the reference in Nisbet and Hubbard's Horace commentary Vol. 3), but this is not something to be taken as straight historical fact: it is an example of Julius Caesar emulating Alexander the Great, or rather writers in the last 1st century BC making it look like Caesar emulated Alexander. A story like this (which has important things to tell us about the perception of what kind of place Alexandria Troas was in Antiquity) therefore belongs to a section on the reputation of the city at different periods of its history. Secondly, there can be (and was) a Roman Empire before there was a Roman emperor; indeed, as Claude Nicolet points out in L'inventaire du monde: géographie et politique aux origines de l'Empire romain (1988), most of Rome's imperialism happened before the reign of Augustus, and very little after. Ajcee7 (talk) 11:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: "Troas was a port city that supplied the Dorians with resources and trade. The city was conquered by the Helladic people and was nearly destroyed."
:Where is this information from? It seems somehow strange and anachronistic to me.--80.141.236.250 (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone has confused Alexandria Troas with Ilium and is also treating the Iliad as history. Ajcee7 (talk) 11:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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