Talk:Gordon Freeman/Archive 1

message: So was Gordon Freeman ever actually in the online MIT directory? ✈ James C. 20:50, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
:I seem to recall that link leading to a Gordon Freeman, but either it was just a joke and someone said "right, this is getting silly" or the "real Gordon Freeman" graduated or got transferred to Black Mesa. ;) --Yar Kramer 01:30, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is a Gordon Freeman at MIT, but no, he does not going around smashing in skulls with a crowbar trying to save the world. CABAL 06:36, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

text: There is another Gordon Freeman from Harvard .--Name Theft Victim 21:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MIT Directory entry 

message: "'homage' begins with a vowel sound." Not in American English, it doesn't. ;) ... um ... I think. --Yar Kramer 18:06, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure it's like "honor." Never heard it pronounced with the "h" sound. Nufy8 18:19, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ...It's a silent 'h', since it's an anglicised french word. --^pirate 20:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (a/an) homage 

message: Quote:
::The symbol on Gordon's HEV suit is the lower case Greek letter Lambda (λ). Interestingly, Lambda was the letter that adorned the shield of Spartan Hoplites (foot soldiers) in ancient Greece. It is unknown if this was an intentional Easter egg on the part of the developers at Valve Software, or merely a coincidence.
Shouldn't it be mentioned that lowercase lambda is also used as the symbol for the radioactive decay constant? After all, said constant is used when describing the half-life of a radioactive isotope. --81.236.13.188 17:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should, since that appears to me to be the most likely source of the symbol. The Spartan connection is a far stretch imho. -- Jordi·✆ 09:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to sort the text out re: the above.  I've removed the odd speculative bit about Hoplites.  Given the scientific use of lambda, I think it's pretty clear that Valve don't mean this.  --Plumbago 17:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lambda is used for Half-life. And guess what, its radioactive stuff. There might be some radioactive in hl1, right :D? Cybesystem 22:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lamba

message: Penis size?  How is that even relevant to character and who cares?  I don't think that something like this encompasses encyclopedic knowledge and is offensive, IMHO.  Vgamer101 04:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, the "measurements" field could easily be blanked or removed to prevent this detail from being displayed (as demonstrated here). Most infoboxes support this feature. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 15:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have edited it out myself, but since I'm a relatively new Wikipedian I didn't know if I would screw anything up by erasing it.  I'm still learning how to use different commands and never edited an infobox before so I wouldn't know.  Even if I did know how, I would've still been a little hesitant to remove it for fear of an arguement over the removal of it and whether or not it was the right move on my part.  You never know.  But thanks for the remove. I just don't always read the instructions.  My fault.  Won't happen again.  Vgamer101 01:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. :) ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 14:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should add infobox? 

message: Can he be seen as a soltuion to a lot of the questions brought up in half life 2, eg the huge amoumt of explosive barrels. he should have some sort of character page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slayerx675 (talk • contribs) 
:Not advisable. Frohman is a fan-made character and thus isn't connected to Valve's Half-Life 2 canon. Such information should stick to Concerned and Concerned only. Besides, this page is only designated for information about Gordon Freeman. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 14:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gordon Frohman?

message: I think in hl1, the gordon model has no glasses, and during the works, a fat guy in green armour. Those who had raising the bar can confirm this, i think. Jackpot Den 22:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See this ; taken from . That is an awful lot of other pre-release info worth reading as well. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 10:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous designs 

message: The article states that the day is May 5, 200-, but in the Half-Life manual this day is only mentioned as the day when the Black Mesa Administrator wrote the letter to Gordon Freeman, when Freeman still was in Austria. This letter stated that Gordon Freeman should begin his work at Black Mesa no later than May 15. And if you take into account the fact that Gordon is well-known by facility staff at the time of the experiment, this experiment could some time before, exactly at, or even some time after May 15. --Diz 16:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I just checked the Blue Shift manual and it says that Barney's arrival at Sector C is on May 15, and is on the same day as the Incident. I'll change it. Nufy8 23:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The date of experiment in Black Mesa 

message: The Half-Life games were innovative in one regard that the main character had plenty of brains AND brawn.  Gordon Freeman is a fictional character that didn't lack either.  He's a theoretical physicist from MIT but doesn't lack physical fitness at the same time.  A lot of "geeky" characters in a good share of movies, television, and games depict them as being somewhat socially withdrawn with a constant obsession over science-fiction and/or computers who have thick black-rimmed glasses held together by duct-tape, have buck teeth, lots of allergies, have no friends, have no girl-friend, bad acne, are physically weak or out-of-shape and sometimes that they're overweight.  The "geeky" or "nerdy" characters are usually put in the role of a computer hacker and/or an anti-social loner.  If you ask me the character Gordon Freeman broke that mold many times over because he had a lot of intellect but at the same time wouldn't let some tough overly-muscular jock-like hero do the fighting for him.  He does his own dirty work.  In the first game, he wasn't highly respected at first by his peers, as a lot of "geeks" or "nerds" can relate to in some way, as he was just a low-level worker but as the storyline progressed onwards and into the second game he becomes more highly respected, all the while nobody in the game makes any discriminatory anti-geek references against him even at the beginning of HL1.  The other characters don't seem to notice too much throughout the series.  It's hard to look up to a character that follows a steretypical vision of what a "geek" or "nerd" is, this a character that was the result of trying something different for a change, a good role model, that "geeks" could look up to as well as the games he's in depict characters that eventual accept Gordon for who he is, which is a good attitude to promote to those who unfortunately judge "geeks" poorly.  You know, switching their attitudes around just a little.  Also, look at Half-Life 2.  The "geek" starts to get the hot chick without having to go through some complete makeover to compromise who he is or how he looks.  Now how many times has the TV or movie industry tried this.  How do any of you feel about this?  If any of my references are wrong against non-gaming entertainment, then feel free to correct me.  Also if this topic does not fit into the discussion section here because it's considered somewhat opinion-based, you can take it off.  I just wanted to see what others thought of this because it is definitely something that sets the HL series above other games as well TV and movies.  You don't see this kind of innovation much.  Vgamer101 05:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gordon Freeman: A stereotype or hero for so-called "geeks"? 

message: Under the Half-Life 1 section, the article says "Players are left to assume that the G-Man arranged for the whole incident, as he can be seen talking with some scientists before the experiment, and since the sample which caused the accident is described as having 'just been delivered that morning.'" However, this is a great and unverified assumption to say that the G-Man was behind the cause of the resonance cascade. A lot of evidence in the game and the subsequent expansion packs even point to the Administrator as being the one who caused (Intentionally or not is unknown) the resonance cascade. Although it was thought for a time that the G-Man was really the administrator, we know now that this is not true. If anything, the G-Man's actions in Half-Life show that he was actually attempting to prevent the disaster from occurring. Although the use of the word "evaluation" can be taken as rather odd, it could simply mean nothing more than the fact that the he was monitoring Gordon's actions after the incident, much like he did with Adrian, Barney, and Gina and Colette.
Anyway, my point is that I would like to remove this sentence, but I believe that if I did, the rest of the paragraph would have to be removed too since the rest of it wouldn't have any meaning. Any ideas, anyone? MarphyBlack 22:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that paragraph is all that useful, and like you said, is highly speculative and is probably a false assumption. It should just be removed entirely, I think. Nufy8 22:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The G-Man's Evaluation 

message: I think the link Half-Life Saga Story Guide is very inaccurate and sometimes contains false information about the Half-Life universe in comparison to the official books and Valve employee interviews.
Can someone confirm this so we can procceed in removing the link?
155.207.209.119 10:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, much of the information in that story guide is incorrect, although it tends to be a popular, or at least well-known, resource in some places in the HL community. Regardless, I would be in favor or removing this link since it doesn't do any good to be spreading blatantly wrong information about HL's story. If necessary I could point out specific examples where the site is incorrect, but I think it's obvious from reading the page that a good deal of it is made up of very wild conjecture. MarphyBlack 11:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed it. Nufy8 18:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinformative Link? 

message: It should probably be noted that this movie may have inspired Valve when creating GF. Charlie Sheen looks very much like the GF we know today in that film, goatee and all. Plus, he's an eccentric scientist becoming unwillingly involved in combating an alien invasion. What do other people think?
:While Sheen's character in the film does bear a freakish resemblance to Gordon (Something that's brought up quite often around HL communities), I don't think it could really be said that his appearance was the inspiration for Gordon. We know from early screenshots that Gordon originally had a very much different model, dubbed Ivan the Space Biker. From concept art seen in Raising the Bar, we also know that Gordon's basic design evolved from Ivan. I wouldn't find it likely that Valve would redesign Gordon's look to match a character from a movie that barely came out a year and a half before the game was finally released. MarphyBlack 07:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Arrival as Inspiration 

message: Gordon J. Freeman: not a theoretical physicist...
:Raising the Bar says that Gordon's name is a combination of the names of physicist/philosopher Freeman Dyson and French mathematician Jules Henri Poincare. Apparantly the first suggested name by Marc Laidlaw was Dyson Poincare, at which point Gabe Newell suggested Gordon Freeman, which was quite shockingly kept instead. MarphyBlack 23:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctor Freeman's namesake 

message: Would Mr. Freeman qualify for inclusion in :Category:Massachusetts Institute of Technology alumni?  Or perhaps :Category:Fictional Massachusetts Institute of Technology alumni?  --Merovingian {T C @} 14:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category?