Talk:William Lombardy

message: This article mentions that William Lombardy was the only player with a perfect score 11-0. However, see article on Bobby Fisher, section Playing career before 1967 .. last line. That mentions the same thing as well. Not sure which one is correct?
: Lombardy did it in the World Junior championship, Fischer did it in the regular US Championship.  Bubba73 (talk), 04:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  old talk

message: The stuff about Collins is overblown, the long quote by Collins doesn't belong in bio article on Lombardy and seems straining to prove something. (Perhaps it belongs in the Collins article.) And did Lombardy have any direct conflict with Collins, or just with what others said about him later? (If the latter, then section name "Conflict with Collins" is inappropriate.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:09, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on all points.  It's WP:UNDUE here.  The stuff about Collins and Fischer is wildly off topic in this article, so I'm going to remove that now.  The section still needs more trimming.  Quale (talk) 05:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

text: I also removed the off-hand game with Collins.  Lombardy won the World Junior Championship with a perfect score, and that was the only game score in article???  That game was not significant in Lombardy's career. Quale (talk) 17:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it is inappropriate for a encyclopedic biography article on Lombardy. (Please see earlier comments.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 18:12, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collins section 

message: The boards Lombardy played in on the Olympic teams needs to be checked.  Someone seems to have copy and pasted lines of the table, and not updated the link to the individual Olympiad and the team's place.  Some of the boards are likely wrong.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the boards do correspond to the individual Olympiad articles.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  boards in the Olympiad 

message: I don't have an authoritative source - just Facebook posts I've seen - but Lombardy has recently moved in with a family in one of the Northwest suburbs of Chicago. Krakatoa (talk) 09:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  He has moved to the Chicago area 

message: It has been reported on Twitter that Lombardy has died. See . Needs a reliable source, but that will probably be forthcoming soon. Carcharoth (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reported death 

message: I am copying this comment from the Talk page for Bobby Fischer.
To the best of my knowledge, the earliest source for the claim that Lombardy "coached" or "mentored" Fischer when Fischer was very young is Lombardy's 2011 memoir.  Other references, such as to Sloan & Aravena, postdate that and are probably simply copied from it.  I do not know of any independent corroboration, such as a mention in Brady, or any public statement by Fischer.
I do not think that Lombardy's book is a reliable source for this question.  I propose to delete that claim.  The section would then be diminished or eliminated.  Of course, we have reliable sources for the stories of Lombardy working with Fischer at Portoroz and Reykjavik, and I have no problem with citing these, but it may be appropriate to move that material to the following section, on the 1972 World Championship match.  Bruce leverett (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coaching Bobby Fischer 

message: We are describing Lombardy's 11-0 score in the World Junior as a "record that 'still stands today'".  There are two cited sources; one is the back-cover blurb of Lombardy's self-published autobiography, the other is the Lombardy profile in a website called worldchesschampions.com.
The page from worldchesschampions.com is gone (the whole worldchesschampions.com site times out when one tries to visit it) and I can't find it in the Wayback Machine.  So I went looking for a reliable source for the "record", but found nothing.  (chessgames.com mentions it, but this could have been copied from Wikipedia.)
One can verify from olimpbase.org that indeed no one has made a perfect score in the World Junior since Lombardy.  However, it was 13 rounds for more than 40 years (though it has recently returned to 11 rounds), and besides, it is a much stronger tournament nowadays; Lombardy got the IM title for winning it in 1957, but nowadays the winner is invariably already a GM.  So I do not think that we need to put any special emphasis on the "standing record", in the absence of a reliable source to indicate notability.  I will remove it. Bruce leverett (talk) 22:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  A record that "still stands today"