Wikipedia talk:Spanish Translation of the Week/Archive 1

message: Aren't there more gaps in the Spanish Wikipedia?  Shouldn't there be first an effort to translate English in to Spanish? nroose Talk 19:49, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The logic was, that on en.wikipedia, there are going to be more people who are fluent in english and have low to medium proficiency in spanish (such as myself), than vice-versa. Ie. more people will be able to read spanish than write spanish. My hope is that this idea spreads, so that all the major wikipedias have a TotW (or maybe even Translation of the day if it really catches on) to all the other major wikipedias. The bellman 00:33, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  English to Spanish translation 

message: You guys are doing a great job. You might want to look at m:Translation of the week to get these translations into other languages as well. Danny 05:11, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation of the week

message: It's been a week, Eulalio Gutiérrez is done. 
How about Francisco Hernández de Córdoba, discoverer of Yucatan? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:16, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
:Sure, sounds good — J3ff 09:00, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking about Pascual Orozco from es:Pascual Orozco.  If there are no objections, I'm going to set it up as translation of the week. — J3ff 00:44, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: It's that time again

message: Francisco Hernández... is pretty much done. 3 remaining phrases, I've got questions to Vivero at talk. However, I found that I did about 90% of the work and Vivero did most of the rest. Is anyone actually interested in doing these as collaborative efforts, or has that gone by the wayside? -- Jmabel | Talk 22:47, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
:Yes, very much, although I didn't get around to participating in this particular translation. I think the project is very worthwhile. -- Ngb 23:13, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to work on these, but my Spanish is limited.  Most of the language in the Francisco Hernandez article was above my level. — J3ff 03:39, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: I think it's nice to vary the kind of articles we're doing if we can: we've done three biographical articles in a row, so how about we do Football War from :es:Guerra de Fútbol? I've made the appropriate changes to the project page. --Ngb 12:48, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, Football War is done, and it's been getting on for a fortnight since we picked it. Does someone want to choose the next one? --Ngb 15:28, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaboration

message: Please notice that es:René Favaloro has strong similarities with
Fundación Favaloro homepage. Ejrrjs | What? 01:56, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was probably a source  for the Spanish Wikipedia article.  Unless the words are copied verbatim, I wouldn't really worry about it.  Regardless, it shouldn't affect us because by translating into English, we are creating our own work. — J3ff 02:26, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's verbatim, check for yourself. I think that translating copyrighted material is not an option. Ejrrjs | What? 03:13, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's continue the discussion on Talk:René Favaloro. — J3ff 03:23, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rene Favaloro]] 

message: This forum is full of photographers with large collections of great city specific work.  Would anyone mind trying to solicit contributions to the commons?  Collection example lots of issues  | leave me a message 07:49, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish language request 

message: As Titoxd mentioned above, I feel the best solution is the place the Spanish text within HTML comment tags, hiding the text from readers.  The Translation template will be placed on the talk page.  This solution is the best because it preserves the history for GDFL, and keeps the article in good condition so readers are not confused.
How does everyone feel about this proposal?  If there is a consensus, I will go ahead and implement this solution. — J3ff 01:24, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal 

message: I see that the es:  version is much more complete, whereas the en: one is rather short. But it's not like en: is missing an article, so I'd rather ask if it'd be okay to propose it as a candidate (to translate all the improvements) even though article already exists. -- < drini | ∂drini > 18:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: While our article can undoubtedly improve with material from the Spanish version, I think this is better as a project for a single person than as a collaboration. It is not only translation which is needed, but a merging of the content of the two articles, and this is not something easily done by many people working together. Others here may disagree with me.-gadfium 19:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I'd nominate it anyway, because after Gestalt therapy is done, we'll have an either/or election of two candidates, neither of which counts with an overwhelming amount of support. Who knows? Maybe others will like to chip in with the merging gadfium talks about. --Titoxd 06:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Don Quixote]] 

message: We seem to have stopped listing recent Translations of the Week on the project page. Since many of them have left behind significant incomplete work, I think we should restore that. For example, Cuisine of Argentina still has a lot of commented-out Spanish and needs a lot of cleanup besides. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:50, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
* Agree. Should they go under a brief snippet of text that says, "These articles have recently been translated as part of the project. Some of them may require additional work." or something like that? --Titoxd 20:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent STotWs 

message: Might take longer than a week. Please don't rush it and sacrifice quality. As in the spirit of wikipedia, anyone and everyone is encouraged to help out and be bold. I will definitely work to its (slow) completion. Priorities.....--Jondel 02:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Gestalt Therapy

message: All right, I promoted Capernaum from: :es:Cafarnaúm as the new Translation of the Week, since it had 3 votes vs. 2 for another two articles that are still in the mix. Please check if I did everything right, ok? This is my first SPATRA promotion. Titoxd 05:40, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also created , to make it simpler to reference back to the corresponding Spanish article. Titoxd 06:13, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Translation of the Week

message: I've contacted Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles to check if they can parse a list of articles that are found in the Spanish Wikipedia but not in English. I contacted them because they have similar lists for French and German. I believe that with SPATRA we can do something similar for Spanish and reduce the number of entries even more than the other languages have. Titoxd(?!?) 08:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/es. Note that the list contains a large number of articles that have an English equivalent, but are simply missing the proper interwiki link to the English wikipedia. For example: we do have an artice on Great Britain. -- Eugene van der Pijll 11:52, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cooperation with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles|WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles]] 

message: Well, it seems that Attack on Pearl Harbor has won the vote for this week's SPATRA. However, since it is Tuesday (not Sunday), and it is an inverse SPATRA, something we haven't done, would it be ok for me to promote it and leave it there for 1.75 weeks, until next Sunday? We'll probably have a few problems we haven't thought of, so that will give us more time; also, it gives us the chance to look for new noms. Any comments? Titoxd(?!?) 05:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've set it up, only that I can't hide the text very well. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, does anyone want to help? Titoxd(?!?) 05:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New translation - only in reverse 

message: Hmm, the project has been very silent of late. Who is here, and who is willing to restart the normal translation process? Titoxd(?!?) 06:21, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ever since Argentine cuisine (which hasn't been finished yet), the project has been running kinda slow. I have to admit myself that I haven't been working on translations at all, but I'm trying to keep my job in real life. Hope the project gets moving soon. Mariano(t/c) 10:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is everyone? 

message: I notice the page outdated with votes that are one month old. And no following comment. Hellooooo? Anybody home? --Anagnorisis 18:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The project itself is not dead, there are still a few editors lingering around. The votes are very old because nominations seem to come in spurts of several, and there haven't been any articles nominated since the last spurt, so I'm not delisting them for the time being. I will switch the translation to Geology of the Falkland Islands today, though, so that should revive the project up. Probably the notice on the main page of the project should be changed to reflect that. Titoxd(?!?) 21:11, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this dead?

message: I've created a new page at Wikipedia:Spanish_Translation_of_the_Week/Worklist to allow us to collaborate on Spanish Wikipedia articles beyond the weekly collaboration, such as shorter articles that would never be candidates for the weekly gig. For example, say you're translating an article and find links to two or three other articles that also lack en: equivalents, but you're not going to translate them all immediately. Just post them on the worklist so that a future editor who drops in when the weekly translation is done or is on a topic that doesn't interest him/her can still help out. Longer articles could also go on the worklist page and become future SPATRA candidates. Questions? Thoughts? | Klaw ¡digame! 01:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New "worklist" page

message: La Seo Cathedral seems finished, what's next? - Jmabel | Talk 02:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to move on? 

message: I promoted Campo de Criptana to be the new Translation of the Week. It seemed to have the most support. Cheers! Rodney Boyd 22:36, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ToftW 

message: The new STotW is Enrique Gaspar y Rimbau. Rodney Boyd 04:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had a bash at the slightly easier non-discussion-of-his-work first half of the article. Proto||type 11:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I must be doing something wrong, since the  template on the project page is not being expanded with the name of the current translation. Can anyone fix this? Thanks Rodney Boyd 12:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enrique Gaspar y Rimbau 

message: The new translation of the week is Vasco Núñez de Balboa. I created it as a subpage of the project page since there is already an English article (Vasco Núñez de Balboa) and because I've been told this is the right way to create new translations. Hope this is ok. Rodney Boyd 18:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vasco Núñez de Balboa 

message: It seems that the Balboa article is now fully translated. When is the new one going to be announced? --Isabella123 21:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have one to suggest? - Jmabel | Talk 21:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The new article is selected according to the votes on the main page. Cao Yu is now leading. Anyone can promote an article to new STotW—see the instructions. However the current translation still seems to be in transit from STotW to main article. Rodney Boyd 22:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text:  The Balboa article is definitely done with translation, merge, etc. - Jmabel | Talk 23:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for new article? 

message: I was wondering if maybe we can erase some of the translators that have been inactive for some time. Like the following: 32, 34, 71, 83, 93 and 99 (see Translators. Let me know what you guys think. Gadig 23:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we should remove inactive translators.  We should keep the list for people who are interested in participating.  If the issue is space, it would probably be a good idea to move the entire translator section into its own subpage. — J3ff 01:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got mixed feelings about deleting inactive translators, but I would support moving the list of translators to another page. - Draeco 03:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactive Translators 

message: Maestranza de caballería is now fully translated, though it needs a solid proofread by several editors to improve the flow. Let's put on the finishing touches and move on to the next article. As part of the finishing touches, we need to reach a concensus on format as discussed here. It looks like the next article will be the Siete Partidas, and I think we should probably remove Cao Yu since it's already been fully translated. - Draeco 03:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of Maestranza de caballería 

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