Talk:Blunt (cigar)

message: Removed "The theory behind a cone-shaped cigar or cigarette is that it has a more even flavor. This is because as you burn tobacco it passes through the unburnt tobacco left in your cigarette.  Thus it leaves tar and nicotine on the unburned tobacco and raises its strength and flavor. So, by using a conical cigarette, you are burning less and less tobacco with each puff - helping to compensate for the stronger and stronger tobacco Ref.  That is why so many Europeans use cones and sales of cones in the USA increase every year. Ref"
because the references are not valid. Feel free to put this back if you can find more reputable sources to cite. Cheers..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.84.11 (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed half of Blunt Cone section

message: I removed the following sentence from the Subheading "Common Obstacles."  "The practice of smoking blunts draws much criticism even within the smoking community for many practical, but also sometimes cultural, reasons."  Not only is this statement unattributed and unexplained it is simply asinine Gardiangel 23:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Common Obstacles

message: *We seem to attract a lot of unsourced definitions. This isn't urban dictionary. I'm going to start weeding out material that isn't readily verifiable unless someone starts providing citations for all this. Dystopos 05:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: verifiability

message: *But then you got high and forgot to do it? lol...unisgned comment by User:65.7.223.51
**I didn't provide a timetable. --Dystopos 16:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: changes?

message: I've replaced all instances of the word 'cannabis' with the word 'marijuana'. Cannabis can refer to either marijuana (aka sinsimilla, pot, dope, hash, etc) or Hemp. In order to avoid confusion, it is  very important to discern between these varieties. Thanks!
Bennyp 22:42, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  cannabis/marijuana 

message: Does anyone know when people started rolling blunts? Early 90s?
*i think so, Eazy E said it in a song in 92--EZ 21:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of blunts? 

message: Some even seem to think by discarding the tobacco cigar filler they are escaping nicotine, which is not the case, there is some in the cover leaf.Tokerdesigner (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Further deception

message: someone posted a link on the blunt page to this product but when you follow it goes to a clothing company?
Anyone know if this really is a blunt or just some wierd European blunt clothing thing?
--Mrtobacco 11:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a Haarlem Blunt? 

message: I nominate this page for Sprotect.  Anyone second the motion?
--Mrtobacco 14:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Jerks are vandalising the page :( 

message: I agree with ReverendG.  This page should not have all of these slang terms without reference.  People could be posting any sort of silly thing such as:
"A Carrot stick is a blunt dipped in Orange Tang".   Note that I just made this up but I wouldn't be surprised to see it listed on the Blunt page soon...    It's getting kind of busy and silly so maybe we should remove those.
--Mrtobacco 15:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This isn't the hip hop dictionary.. 

message: Here is why:
:1 The article has NO, as in NONE references whatsoever. It doesn't have bad or Biased sources, but none. Somebody please add some verifiable sources! 
:2 It violates WP:Not since wikipedia is not a how-to about the drug culture nor yet about map reading or how to make a great fried egg or orange sherbet. The specific policy is that wikipedia is not an instruction manual. 
:3 The whole tone of the article has a wink,wink, nudge, nudge tone of an overly clever instruction manual which besides being vaguely creepy and unpleasant does not have an encyclopedic tone. 
:: Conclusion: This article needs an extremely extensive rewrite!
===No References Exist===
Since blunts are illegal, no viable historical references exist about their use. The article is definitely a good resource and has probably helped people discover new methods of rolling or what exactly a blunt is made of, but it could use some cleaning up. However, there will be little references on the page since no true references exist.
Can we add some sort of notice on top of the article that disclaims all article data, like basically a "This article was written by the community, for the community. All content in this article is comprised of knowledge without references, basically hearsay. Use this knowledge at your own risk." or something.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Necromancer (talk • contribs) 16:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Worst episode ever|Worst article ever]]

message: Since blunts are illegal, no viable historical references exist about their use. The article is definitely a good resource and has probably helped people discover new methods of rolling or what exactly a blunt is made of, but it could use some cleaning up. However, there will be little references on the page since no true references exist.
Can we add some sort of notice on top of the article that disclaims all article data, like basically a "This article was written by the community, for the community. All content in this article is comprised of knowledge without references, basically hearsay. Use this knowledge at your own risk." or something.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Necromancer (talk • contribs) 16:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No References Exist

message: Heh... I forgot to sign V. Joe 16:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Signature

message: Please I worked hard on it and it is relevant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.85.6.211 (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  stop removing the pop culture section 

message: Show me a reference for the history of a blunt. Original research must be applied here or else the article would be useless. There are no books or scholarly articles written about the history of blunts except for brief mentions of the item's existence in our society. Necromancer 19:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why this isn't the worst article ever, you jerks... 

message: I can see that there has been a lot of discussion, editing et cetera done to this page already, and that it has been the subject of some controversy, but nonetheless I am confused as to why the article currently has no mention of the fact that blunts are used for smoking cannabis. My previous understanding was that the term "blunt" refers only to a type cigar containing cannabis, but this article would imply that use of blunts to smoke cannabis is just a secondary use. Of course I might be wrong, but even so the article needs to clarify.
On a different note, I would like to mention that here in the UK the term "blunt" refers simply to a joint rolled with no tobacco, only cannabis. In the UK I have never heard the term used to refer to the use of cigars or anything along those lines. I imagine it would be appropriate to add a section mentioning the different meaning in the UK, but due to the level of argument/discussion about this page, I am hesitant to make any edits straight away.
Static Sleepstorm (talk) 11:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm very confused 

message: Blunt originally refers to a particular shape of Tobacco Cigar (It is a short {blunted} cigar).  Blunt in the modern vernacular usage, in the United States anyway, refers to any marijuana cigarette that is rolled using Tobacco Papers.  This is an urban African-American slang usage that spred into more common vernacular by the decimination of street slang through hip-hop (rap) music.  
(I am an expert because I am Urban, African-American, a hip-hop artist, and a pot head that smokes blunts exclusive of any other method).
lol
It does bother me that there is a picture of a Marijuana Blunt, but the desciption only speaks on the shape of a tobacco blunt.  There should be a large amount of information included regarding the illicit use of these cigars. 
Creator7 (talk) 00:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's hard to have a large amount of information, because there isn't a whole lot to it!  It's just a cigar shell with pot in it.  If you have more reliable sources with more information about blunts that would be relevant to an encyclopedia, feel free to add it. Gigs (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not That Confusing. 

message: The last section talks about rolling a marijuana blunt using the process of splitting and emptying a pre-rolled cigar.  The picture of the blunt wraps are rolling papers that are bought empty and do not involve the splitting process.  The article does not at all mention these blunt wraps, and the fact that they probably do not actually contain tobacco.  There should either be an explanation of the difference between traditional Blunt Cigars and "Blunt wraps" or the picture should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.245.181 (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrelated Picture 

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