Talk:Museo de Arte de Ponce

message: How can it possibly be "world class"? Edwardx (talk) 20:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: World class

message: The current coordinates are wrong, the museum is on Las Americas Avenue. Mercy11 (talk) 01:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: I have reverted these edits HERE as they constitute basically (1) a moving around of sections that were otherwise just fine, (2) making an issue of the renaming of the street where the museum is at (but this article is not about the street but about the museum; in addition, the change would introduce an inconsistency as the Museum's own website continues to report its address as Av. Las Americas), (3)Likewise for the city where the museum is located, where an issue is also made of that, but this article is about the museum, not about the city of Ponce and, in any event, that's what wikilinks are for (ex: use "Ponce, Puerto Rico" rather than describing the relative location of the city or where it stands in population relative to other cities in Puerto Rico), and (4)adding an "Introduction" section - unnecessary as the info there can go in the lead (where it was) for this article is not so long as to require a separate Introduction section and, in any event, that's the purpose of the lead section, namely to introduce the article.
While the museum did reopen and that part of the article did need an update, reworking the whole article was not the way to accomplish that, for, though primarily those above, the changes are extensive.  It is best, when dealing with articles that have enjoyed relative stability, like this one, to first bring to discussion the intention to rewrite the article if the changes are numerous and significant, as was the case with these edits. My name is Mercy11 (talk) 23:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by Looks2See1

message: Is there some reason why we don't want the second accredited museum to be here? Andrevan@ 02:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It make more sense to mention the detail that the museum was the only museum accredited until 2013. I think the fact is an important milestone in the history of art institutions in Puerto Rico. Of course, it doesn't hurt to mention the other museum without deleting the year of accreditation. --Jmundo (talk) 02:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that sounds fine. I wasn't trying to delete the year, just add back in the other museum. Why don't you do the honors? Andrevan@ 02:58, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am reverting Andrevan's change for the following reasons: Discussion has already taken place as shown above, and consensus has already been established as two editors, User:Jmundo and myself, have already opposed Andrevan's prose here. Second, since the museum that reached a accreditation milestone was Museo de Arte de Puerto Rico, that's where that sort of information belongs (Readers wouldn't come to this article to find out if Museo de Arte de Puerto Rico is accredited). To exacebate, the information about the acreditation of MAPR is not even found at its own article, Museo de Arte de Puerto Rico!  Third, we should also consider how other articles handle this situation: Do we talk about the Empire State Building in the Sears Tower article? No, we shouldn't here either. It's just not how we do things in Wikipedia.  Fourth, per WP:LEAD, "significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article." We don't cover MAPR's accreditation in the remainder of the article, so it doesn't belong here either.  Mercy11 (talk) 02:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Mercy, you are editing aggressively. Clearly you have learned nothing from your post at ANI. Reverting edits and owning articles is not the way we do things here at Wikipedia - did you not notice that several admins specifically called me out about reverting your changes? Anyway, there is no consensus here to remove the link to the other museum - Jmundo said he felt that the good faith, well referenced, informational and contextual changes by anonymous editor 136, which I reverted your revert of, did not hurt. They clearly flesh out the context of Museo de Arte de Ponce versus the newer museum. The Sears Tower happens not to mention the Empire State Building but it does mention the World Trade Center, which was notable for the same exact reason that you might imagine one would mention the Empire State in your metaphor: a tall building in the same country. I don't think it necessarily belongs in the lead section but then your appropriate action would be to move it to the appropriate section, not revert me (or good faith anonymous users). Andrevan@ 02:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Relax, and I am editing in compliance with WP:PG. I didn't have to give but one reason, I gave four. If you feel that strong about a couple of words here and there, then take it the proper forum. Also, you can't count the anonymous IP because, despite his edit, he is not participating in this discussion (Consenseus is arrived at with discussion, not with edits, right?). In fact, guess what, as a show of goodwill, let me know what forum you want and I will happily bring it there. Deal? Mercy11 (talk) 03:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't care about the text or this museum, I care that you have a pattern of editing protectively on articles such as the Puerto Rican road articles, biographies and cultural articles that you deem to be stable such that you will revert productive, good faith changes. I am the author of WP:DAQ but this is not how it's done.  If you keep this up you are headed for a WP:RFC/U which will involve heavily researching your past edits, and I know there is a lot in there to read. Andrevan@ 03:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  One of two accredited museums