Talk:The War of the Worlds (1938 radio drama)

message: We need to reconcile the lead and the Public reaction section. The latter clearly shows multiple reports and instances of panic all across the country. The lead, however, downplays these reports and says it "allegedly causing panic". There's really no "allegedly" about it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead states "allegedly causing panic", but Public reaction section clearly shows multiple instances of panic 

message: An anonymous user has thrice inserted the claim that this program was a secret public psychology experiment funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and carried out by Princeton University. This would be news to Wells and the writers of the show, who restructured the script into a breaking news format just days before it aired because the initial conventional version was deemed too dull. The cited source for the outlandish claim is a book which accurately says that the resulting panic was studied AFTER the fact, NOT that it was all some nefarious set-up by sinister forces or whatnot. I could possibly see mentioning the (baseless) conspiracy theory in the "legacy" subsection as long as the text makes it clear that it's not true, but it cannot be presented as fact. Zeng8r (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princeton University / Rockefeller Foundation conspiracy theory 

message: : I'm not , but since I've worked on this article off and on over the years, I thought I'd chime in. The second half of the body text does need some cleanup and reorganization, so I'm glad somebody's working on it. On the other hand. before one embarks on a significant copyedit of an article about a famous / infamous piece of media such as this episode of the Mercury Theater on the Air, I think that it's important that one is quite familiar with the work and its legacy. Hopefully that's the case here. Zeng8r (talk) 02:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for your interest and your concern is noted. That being said, my objective here is so that people who aren't familiar with the subject are able to get a clear idea of it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

text: My concern isn't when the breaks occurred so much as the broadcast's lack of sponsorship that allowed them to place breaks as they liked. As it is right now it sounds like original research or improper synthesis. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:31, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  GOCE copyedit request 

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replies: text: The War of the Worlds (1938 radio drama) →  – Since radio episodes don't seem to have a naming convention, the one that is close to this is WP:NCEPISODE which uses the title of the series as disambiguation. This makes these (very few radio episode articles) WP:CONSISTENT with the rest of episode articles. Gonnym (talk) 08:14, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 July 2023 

message: https://web.archive.org/web/20150814020035/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/what-to-listen-to/the-war-of-the-worlds-panic-was-a-myth/
"Within three weeks, newspapers had published at least 12,500 articles about the broadcast and its impact, but the story dropped from the front pages after a few days. Adolf Hitler referenced the broadcast in a speech in Munich on November 8, 1938. Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of 'the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy'."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)#Public_reaction
"The myth of the result created by the combination was reported as fact around the world and disparagingly mentioned by Adolf Hitler in a public speech. [...] During a 1970 appearance on The Dick Cavett Show, Welles claimed to have met Hitler while hiking in Austria with a teacher who was a 'budding Nazi'. He said that Hitler made no impression on him at all and does not remember him. He said that he had no personality at all: 'He was invisible. There was nothing there until there were 5,000 people yelling sieg heil'."
WELLES: I think that’s the nicest thing that a man from England could say about the men from Mars.  Mr Hitler made a good deal of sport of it, you know, and actually spoke of it in the great Munich speech. And there were floats in Nazi parade showing —
WELLS: He hadn’t much else to say.
WELLES: That’s right!  (laughter) And it’s supposed to show the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracies that The War of the Worlds went over as nice as it did. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20190721135841/http://www.rosslawhead.com/blog/2012/09/when-orson-welles-met-h-g-wells/
This obviously stems exclusively from the self-promoting imagination of the Kenosha-born “showman” Wells, who was a generation (26 years) younger than Hitler. For Hitler demonstrably did not give a speech in Munich the day before the so-called Kristallnacht, but was very probably in Berlin. Neither in German nor in English is there any reference on the entire Internet to a speech by Hitler in Munich's Bürgerbräukeller on November 8, 1938.
https://archive.org/details/max-domarus-hitler-reden-und-proklamationen-1932-1945-vol-1-4-compressed/page/967/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/tcahs/page/n1173/mode/2up
Exactly one year later, however, he gave a speech in the Bürgerbräukeller, in which he did not mention the word decadence or corruption at all, let alone Well(e)s ridiculous “panic radio play about Martians”. He uses the word America once, in the sentence: “After all, this Germany has had more suicides in two years than Americans have died in the West in the middle of the war.”
https://www.georg-elser-arbeitskreis.de/texts/hitler-1939-11-08.htm
https://archive.org/details/19391108AdolfHitlerRedeImBuergerbraeukellerBegruessungVonChristianWeber1h00m
It was the speech in which eight people were killed by Georg Elser's bomb attack, according to the protocoll 20 (not "13") minutes after Hitler had left the scene. Equally truthful is Wells' statement that he once “sat right next to Hitler” in the Tyrol, only to attest to his “lack of personality” 35 (?) years later. I doubt with great emphasis that this guy was ever even close to Hitler, who was indeed “invisible”: because he was physically non-existent (except in the imagination of the fame-seeking Mr. Wells). https://youtubetranscript.com/?v=G_PUUHLknDI 45.76.87.187 (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welle's (very questionalble) claims