Talk:Shavian alphabet

message: Why cant people make use of all 26 latin letters ie:
*q = k 
*j = j 
*c = ch 
*g = g 
*k = th 
*p = p 
*x = sh 
*h = h
:--220.238.238.21 12:15, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that would be a different proposal with different advantages and disadvantages. You haven't fixed the vowels at all, your system for consonants is still insufficient, and some people like the Shavian letters better than the Latin letters. --Prosfilaes 13:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Prosfilæs, pay no mind to trolls.Cameron Nedland 02:20, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a joke? 

message: I changed the spelling here in accordance with the new name for the article. martianlostinspace 15:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quickscript Spelling 

message: Some mention of the digital fonts available? I have ghoti and Androcles (which seem to be images of hand-drawn letters, but I know no more than that. --Hugh7 22:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fonts

message: Two of the characters printed in boldface red should not be. Specifically, the characters 𐑢 and 𐑘 represent the same sounds in Esperanto as in English.
*  𐑢 : IPA  represents the sound of English "y" as in "yes", which is also written j in normal Esperanto.
*  𐑘 : Esperanto ŭ represents a  sound, used almost exclusively as an offglide, in aŭ and eŭ. It is also used when necessary to represent the  sound at the beginning of a syllable, as in Ŭesli for "Wesley".
I am changing the color and weight of these entries to reflect this. --Thnidu (talk) 04:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ŝava alfabeto 

message: Once you begin using the alphabet for writing or note-taking, another reason becomes evident: the extremely high-frequency suffix -ing. 
𐑦𐑙 can be written without lifting the pen; 
𐑦𐑣 cannot. --Thnidu (talk) 20:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense.  I think of it as mnemonic: you can have a deep ha-ha but not a tall one, after all.  Marnanel (talk) 18:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

text: But the present availability of other implements has no bearing on the question of the original forms of the letters when the Shavian alphabet was devised. --Thnidu (talk) 02:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

text: For what it's worth, the Shaw alphabet was devised during the late fifties, not the forties, by which time ballpoint pens were readily available.---  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.189.25.154 (talk) 23:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haha-Hung reversal 

message: I don't want to barge in and add links to my own work without discussing it, but I wondered whether any of these external links might be of use:
* http://marnanel.org/shavian/transliterate
* http://marnanel.org/shavian/fonts/
* Lingua::EN::Alphabet::Shaw, a Perl module to transliterate
What do people think? Marnanel (talk) 17:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are any of these links useful? 

message: The Other reversals section assumes that Air "𐑺" and Err "𐑻" are ligatures respectively of the letters Egg "𐑧" and Up "𐑳" with Roar "𐑮". Is there any evidence that Air and Err are intended as such ligatures, or is it simply assumed? It seems especially weak to relate Up "𐑳" /ʌ/ to either the sound of Err /ɜr/ or the shape of Air  "𐑺". --Thnidu (talk) 03:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm ignorant both of Shavian spelling and the accents in question, but I wonder whether this supposed reversal is related to the reversal of certain sounds in some English accents, e.g. the Scouse page mentions that ‘square’ (and presumably ‘air’) was previously pronounced [ɜ:] (as I pronounce ‘err’) in Scouse. Pjrm (talk) 10:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other reversals" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article is written in an idiotic way and should be edited by sensible people.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:52, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Such as... yourself? Opencooper (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idiotic 

message: I've just edited some changes that were made in good intention; a few people had made changes of the names egg, ice, out and err, to etch, ride, loud and fur. I understand the reason why—Pacific Northwesterners pronouncing /ɛ/ differently before /ɡ/, Canadian Raising, and the variant pronunciation of err in different dialects—but currently the older words also function as the name.
I propose that we split the name and example rows for a clearer classification. R.I.McGhee (talk) 00:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting Names and Examples 

message: I ask because his name was "George Bernard Shaw" but the adjectival form of "Shaw" is, as I have recently learned, pronounced /ʃeɪvi.ən/ and not /ʃɑːvi.ən/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilotoki (talk • contribs) 18:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 19:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we include the IPA of "Shavian"?  

message: Is it appropriate to include a description of the “Revised” Shaw Alphabet here if our only source of its existence is Omniglot? That site features conscripts submitted by its visitors as well as official ones, and I have been unable to find mention of it anywhere else. Seeing as it has a very high likelihood of being a conscript, should we remove that subsection or make mention of its unofficial status? 2600:8802:E07:1B00:708C:76AE:36FE:961D (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we should remove any mention of that due to lack of notability. JapanYoshi (talk) 03:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a Conscript?