Talk:Charlotte Whitton

message: Since the person this article is about has been dead since 1975, would it not be normal usage to refer to her in the past tense? (as in 'Charlotte Whitton was..." rather than "is". Marty55 02:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: Is there prove that Charlotte Whitton was a lesbian? Demophon (talk) 20:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: Not sure this is considered RS: http://www.dailyxtra.com/toronto/charlotte-loved-margaret-57245, but its at the top of the google search Ottawahitech (talk) 14:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: I note that at some point in the past couple of years, this article was added to  and , so I'm leaving this note here to clarify that this is not appropriate. 
While it certainly seems likely to modern eyes that her relationship with Margaret Grier was probably a lesbian one, the evidence for that is not conclusive and has remained a subject of unresolved debate. Boston marriages, for the record, were not always lesbian spousal relationships, and did sometimes take place between heterosexual or asexual women who just didn't have husbands for some other reason as well — it really was sometimes just a Kate & Allie "sharing a household to save money" sort of thing, rather than always being a lesbian couple — so the mere fact that Whitton and Grier lived in that kind of arrangement is not in and of itself definitive. Their letters have been debated, but there hasn't been any sort of consensus of scholars established one way or the other.
As well, regardless of whether they were a lesbian couple or not, Whitton certainly never came out as lesbian in a modern sense, so it simply isn't clearcut as to what her sexual orientation was or wasn't, as she simply never claimed any sexual orientation label in her own public words. 
So for all of those reasons, there just aren't the grounds to categorize her as lesbian. And this isn't homophobia talking; I'm an openly gay man who actively tries to contribute to Wikipedia's coverage of LGBTQ topics, and the question of whether we can definitively prove that Charlotte Whitton was a lesbian or not has long been on my radar as something to look into. But the evidence simply isn't definitive enough to describe or categorize her as a lesbian: with the sources that exist at present, the only thing we can do is acknowledge and describe the debate, and it would be original research for us to treat her sexual orientation as a settled matter. Bearcat (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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