Talk:Miley Cyrus/Archive 4

message: Miley's Hannah song, "Rock Star" is very similar to "Scotty Doesn’t Know" by Lustra from the movie Eurotrip. Should we mention that? I heard it everywhere that the band, Lustra, are thinking about what to do about it (lawsuit? demanding credit?) ♥, calliegal_x (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Stripping out the publicity angle of Cyrus falsely being accused of plagiarism. This is a song she didn't write and her only involvement is as a for hire singer/actress performer. This topic properly belongs in the song article as it objectively has nothing to do with Cyrus. --NrDg 01:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Problem in "Rock Star" 

message: Miley earned 18.2 million last year, according to Parade magazine's annual "What People Earn" issue. This amount seems much more accurate than the measely 3 million mentioned currently. I suggest this higher figure be used as it seems more correct based on all the facts we have today. Forbes reported in June 2008 that Miley earns $25 million per year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LancerDog (talk • contribs) 04:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When you are looking at these things, you need to keep track of what's being reported. If Cyrus's tour grossed $50mil/week, she wouldn't personally get a huge percentage of that.Kww (talk) 02:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007 Salary?? 

message: With all of Miley's new business ventures, financial analysts predict she is on track to be a billionaire by age 18.http://www.hollyscoop.com/hannah-montana/hannah-montana-to-be-a-billionaire-by-age-of-18_14622.aspx  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LancerDog (talk • contribs) 05:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley on track to be a billionaire by age 18 

message: I'm still a little uncertain as to why Miley's article has a signature. Is there some policy that covers this?  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 20:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My real concern is with authenticity. It is in commons and it is a content decision whether or not to include it in this article. --NrDg 20:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched Google images to try to find examples of her handwriting. While the file we have may not be a typical example of her signature, certain characteristics, particularly the way the tail of the "y" is drawn out, make it fairly certain (at least to my mind) that it is genuine. J.delanoygabsadds 04:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signature Again 

message: i am a bit confused, on the meet miley cyrus cd it say Mley co-wrote it, right? well on the Best of Both Worlds Concert cd it says only Matthew Wilder Tamara Dunn wrote it should it be mentined some where?
Meliss402 (talk) 21:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[G.N.O.]] 

message: Why did Wikipedia put Miley's signature on the page. You know, anyone could copy it, put it on a piece of paper, sell it, and get rich! Could someone change that?
--Mileyhannahroxsox (talk) 23:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is extremely unlikely. If someone copied the image, and tried to pass it off as the original, it would be painfully obvious if they tried to print it on something. A laser printer looks very different than a pen. Also, Wikipedia is not the only place that has pictures of Cyrus' signature. If was able to make a printer print something that looks enough like a pen to fool someone into thinking that it is a genuine copy of Cyrus' signature, that person would easily know enough to be able to scrape Cyrus' signature from some other image of her autograph. J.delanoygabsadds 04:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a signature for most people articles on Wikipedia. There is a whole infobox syntax devoted to it. If you have a problem, take it to higher-level discussion pages. I have no examples since there is no precedent for something like this. --haha169 (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley's Signature. 

message: Not quite sure which Jonas was involved but should it be mentioned that she had a relationship with (Nick, i think) one of them?! I myself am not totally upto date on the tween scene but I've heard that she has written a song "7 Things" to tell this boy her feelings so seeing as she has written a song which has become a single should there be a mention to the relationship that sparked Cyrus to write this YouTube hit Nisior (talk) 22:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless we have a reliable source, we need not include it. This issue has been discussed b4 also i guess. Gprince007 (talk) 05:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Miley Cyrus said she was not romantically involved with any of the Jonas Brothers.  72.95.139.17
I've read an aol article and it said that Miley was dating him,because of those hacked pics posted.One of them has her and Nick in it.PacManFreak (talk) 01:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I've seen all of those pictures and none of them had Nick Jonas in it.  72.95.139.17
We do not know what is going on in Miss Cyrus's private life, unless she said she is dating someone with HER OWN MOUTH NOT SOME BLOGGER then maybe we will add it.Mooncrest (talk) 02:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jonas Love 

message: It should be added that Miley will be the host for the 2008 Teen Choice Awards, which airs on Fox on August 4. It is reported on the wikipedia page for Teen Choice awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Choice_Awards) and www.teenchoiceawards.com that this is true.   I don't know why it hasn't been updated on this page already, but it is definitely significant for her.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liam8 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teen Choice Awards 

message: She wasnt an overnight sensation, that would mean everyone loved her the first day. It sounds like an idoit fan wrote it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 23:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overnight Sensation 

message: Tyra Banks has pitched the idea that Miley should have her own talk show. Like a teenage version show of Tyra's. Tyra said she is very talented. I guess after Miley made over 50 million dollars this year somone finally realized she had talent.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.198.173 (talk) 03:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Show 

message: I was wondering how indepth we go into this in the article. Currently, we have the YouTube page, but we only have one paragraph in the Personal life section about this. Should we include more on this and include information about leaked songs, such as Step Up 2 Miley which she did with Jeremy Shum and Mandy Jiroux, or should we simply leave it as it is? The reason why I ask this is a lot of information may be rumor-based? Thanks!!!Mileycyrusfan2009 (talk) 05:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Rumor-based non-notable info shd not be included in the article. Also any information shd be backed up by reliable sources...Gprince007 (talk) 07:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley Cyrus YouTube videos 

message: this is really a puff piece isn't it - and veers on teensploitation... the poor little girl is entitled to a life and privacy. Should we have wiki articles about minors?
My view is no.Excalibur (talk) 00:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She's obviously notable, and there is plenty of press coverage. I mean, it's not like she's trying to keep a low profile. J.delanoygabsadds 00:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

text: What you would allow your own daughter to do really doesn't have anything to do with how this subject's life has gone so far. As it stands now, she clearly meets the notability guidelines.  If you think there shouldn't be articles on minors, WT:BIO would probably be a better forum...although I doubt you'll find much support there. --Onorem♠Dil 00:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

text: (ec) Look, she's a minor. Her parents have to have given their consent for what she's done, or at the very least, they gave consent for her agent to act as a proxy guardian. I wouldn't, and I don't think there are many people who would let their daughters do what Miley Cyrus has done, but that is irrelevant. Obviously, Cyrus' parents let her do those things. As far as her privacy goes, no one forced her to do what she does. In addition, Wikipedia can only draw on existing materials published by third-party source for the content of this article, so we are not the ones to complain to. J.delanoygabsadds 00:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Miley Cyrus is very well known. A Google search for the exact phrase "Miley Cyrus" returns more than 29 million results. A Google News search returns 5,500 results. She stars in one of the most popular shows aimed at kids, Hannah Montana (The first episode of that show attracted more than five million viewers). She is definitely notable, and her privacy is not a consideration here. An actress, by the nature of the profession, has to give up some of their privacy, and we have not unreasonably intruded into Cyrus' personal life in this article. Besides, everything in the article was already published somewhere else. J.delanoygabsadds 01:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

text: We are defining notability based on the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability. Specifically, since this is a biographical article about a singer and actress, we are defining notability based on Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles and Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Entertainers. Cyrus easily meets the criteria set forth by those pages. As a newspaper carrier and recipient of an Eagle Scout award, you would unquestionably not meet any of those criteria, so your comparison is not a valid one. J.delanoygabsadds 01:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Further explanation (somewhat simpler one) as to where Excalibur's explanation falls apart: There is a MAJOR difference between being notable locally and notable on a national (and/or international) scale as Miley is.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia policy on biographies 

message: Seems like some people disagreed with having :Image:Miley Cyrus.jpeg as the front image on the article, do any body oppose, or support this new change? --Kanonkas :  Talk   14:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that this image is much better than the other images we have. J.delanoygabsadds 19:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The PNG should be used because it is easier on the eyes and is better quality. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 19:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The PNG version isn't better quality, it's lightning is hiding the real lightning as you can see by :Image:Mileydog.PNG and then see :Image:Miley Cyrus.jpeg which isn't hiding the lightning. --Kanonkas :  Talk   19:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Still,the PNG looks better. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As the uploader of the original PNG, I think it looks better as well.--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would be nice with more opinions, as User:XxJoshuaxX has been blocked as a sockpuppet. --Kanonkas :  Talk   10:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are no other objections to add this image I'll add it as it's 2 against 1 on adding this image (not counting the sockpuppet). Thanks, --Kanonkas :  Talk   09:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: User:J.delanoy was probably saying that picture of Miley and the dog itself was better than the other pictures on the article, being as you didn't list the other image for comparision when you made your initial post.--CyberGhostface (talk) 23:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is correct, but it really makes little difference to me which version of that picture is used. J.delanoygabsadds 02:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front image 

message: Just a note to someone with edit access, there is a typo in the "touring" section where the date of the Disney Channel release of Miley's tour should be 2008 rather than 2009.  This is clear when checked via internet sources and by the past tense used within the text. Rack88 (talk) 23:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Next time u can do it urself. Remember to be BOLD while editing. Gprince007 (talk) 05:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo under Touring 

message: There are way more things that need to be said in that section.  There is the candy thing with her friend, the shower pictures, the Selena/Demi thing, and more.  Should we add them???
::The abovesaid incidents have not had any serious impact on her career or her personal life ....so it's just tabloid fodder which i believe doesnt warrant any mention in an encyclopedic article. Gprince007 (talk) 15:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the pictures that were hacked should be there.  They were taken privately, and I understand that.  But, Vanessa Hudgens Wikipedia page has a Controversy section, which only talks about her PRIVATE pictures, as well.  It is very similar.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.84.95 (talk) 01:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, yes, I do agree with you. The hacked photos was a subheading under the controversy section, but was later removed. Now the controversies has been tagged for merging with other sections to make a more neutral presentation. How is this to be done? --Tiah12345 (talk) 09:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just took care of that. All I did was remove the Controversy heading so that the controversies were sub headings of her Personal Life. 68DANNY2 (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Okay, Sounds good. Hopefully this will resolve the problem 124.187.104.81 (talk) 08:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy Section 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
* "test" :
** Official Teen Choice Awards|Inside TC, Retrieved on 19-7-2008.
** It's My Life . Celebs . Miley Cyrus | PBS Kids GO!. Retrieved on 2008-07-14.
DumZiBoT (talk) 12:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgot to mention that I fixed them. Since they only appeared one time each, I removed the ref name from both. bibliomaniac15 23:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: she co-wrote this song about Nick Jonas.
video director Brett Ratner said that "The necklace she's wearing in the video is the necklace he gave her"
and she said to MTV that "breakout" album was about Ex-boyfriends
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1591241/20080721/cyrus__miley.jhtml
Peacekeeper-89 (talk) 07:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  7 things 

message: I hear that miley and he dad are done with hannah montana. Should this be mentioned or is it just a rumor?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehccheehcche (talk • contribs) 22:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: rumor.Kww (talk) 23:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hanah Montana Ending 

message: Please be4 change the article can anyone tell me what's wrong ?
i've add a reliable source, and it's obvious that the song ia about nick...so why deleting it!!??
Peacekeeper-89 (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Miley herself said that the song is not about anyone.  Look at the article for 7 Things. 72.95.139.157 (talk) 13:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  7things 

message: Could we make one? I know all of the song names in her C.D.s.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.203.72 (talk) 02:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for one. Her album articles list every song on each album, and the discography list each album and every single, too.Kww (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

text: As Kww said, a list of songs would be quite unnessesary as all of her songs are on listed in the album and singles articles. It's not as if she has loads of songs that are unreleased but the song titles are somewhat known to the public(or at least the fans), in that case it might be acceptable but even artists that do have many known unreleased songs don't have a "list of songs" article for example Britney Spears. Also adding lyrics would be a blantant copyright violation as the lyrics are copyrighted by the publishers and Wikipedia would not have the permission to use such copyrighted content. Anyway lyrics are readily available on any fansite and Wikipedia is not a fansite, it's an online encyclopedia.  AngelOfSadness  talk  18:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Songs 

message: If you are going to protect this page, at least have the goddamn common sense not to use esoteric american words like "sophomore" in the introduction. This use of the word makes absolutely no sense in thjis context.
Please rectify this issue.
Anonymous/121.209.235.20 (talk) 10:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea who did that either. I've changed it to "second." bibliomaniac15 17:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  sophomore 

message: Why hasn't there been any mention of the photo controversy where Cyrus and one of her friends were photographed sharing candy? That caused a huge internet shockwave, and yet it hasn't been added. I expected Wikipedia to have that info like a year ago when it first happened. But there was no mention of it...Moocowsrule (talk) 21:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There were at least a few pages on some notable and reliable new pages... Moocowsrule (talk) 03:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The info might have been on some reliable sites, but it still isn't notible. Edgehead5150 07:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

text: If everyone agreed with you it wouldn't be a controversy. Since they don't, it is. --NrDg 19:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: So how could she have an event at disneyland celebrating her 16th birthday?
:No as the Disneyland thing was an event for her to celebrate her birthday with her fans i.e. it was a concert pretty much just two months in advance.  AngelOfSadness  talk  14:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miley isn't 16...typo? 

message: Some of the controversial photos on the internet (not the Vanity Fair photos) of Cyrus exposing some parts of her body were apparently posted by somebody who hacked one of her former e-mail accounts.  The FBI raided his house.  Here is one article, and there are others out there in case it is not reliable enough (although I think it is reliable): http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081022/wr_nm/us_cyrus_tech_1 Stevv (talk) 01:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's newsworthy, but like the Chris Brown saying Miley Cyrus is ugly thing, because it's breaking news, I'm not sure if it should be included. Read here on Recentism  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mileyshockdown (talk • contribs) 05:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FBI found Miley's hacker 

message: I was wondering whether this is really relevant: "In May 2008, Hugh Hefner made news when he offered a magazine pictorial to 15 year old Miley. Hefner said she was a "pretty lady" but would have to wait until she was 18 to appear in the magazine.". This honestly soudns more of an advertisement for Playboy on the biggest teen pop star's MySpace than something genuine?Mileysmileyday (talk) 07:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd take it out. Miley possibly gets a lot of offers for many things that don't warrant inclusion here within her article. -- Longhair\talk 07:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, i feel that in light of her backless photo controversy, Hefner offer might be included. But i feel it doesnt require a separate section to mention it. It might be merged in the photo controversy section.Gprince007 (talk) 00:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playboy offer 

message: ...is written under the pic...can someone please change it?! 86.45.206.241 (talk) 22:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That vandalism was reverted over three hours ago and according to the most recent revision the vandalism isn't present.  AngelOfSadness  talk  22:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Try bypassing your browser's cache. J.delanoygabsadds 22:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "You're a prick!" 

message: She is now 16, someone needs to update the age on the right hand side. Simsianity (talk) 10:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: November 23rd hasn't happened yet, making her still 15 until then. When November 23rd does happen, the page will be automatically updated. Therefore, currently, there is nothing wrong in the article about her age as there is multiple reliable sources to back up that content.  AngelOfSadness  talk  18:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: Miley is 16 now so somone should change that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.217.5 (talk) 01:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Miley's birthday is November 23, so she isn't 16, she's 15. Edgehead5150 01:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides that, there is a template, Template:Birth date and age, that calculates the person's age by looking at Wikipedia's servers' clocks and comparing it to the person's birthdate as entered into the templates parameters. J.delanoygabsadds 07:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mileys age 

message: The alleged "offer" from Hugh Hefner for Miley to appear in Playboy NEVER HAPPENED.  What did happen is that an idiot reporter saw Hefner at an event, and completely out of the blue asked him if he'd want Cyrus to appear in the magazine.  Hefner responded that she was a "pretty lady" but would have to wait until she was 18 to appear in the magazine.  It was a completely reasonable response to a really stupid question, but only someone in the media looking for a headline would confuse it with being an offer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikefulton1963 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, do you have a Reliable Source to prove that? Edgehead5150 08:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playboy "offer" never happened 

message: Does Miley Cyrus also play piano? Isn't there a pic of her playing a keyboard? Geekboy6 (talk)
yes she does --gdaly7 (talk) 07:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piano? 

message: the picture of miley is like a year old can we get a new one --gdaly7 (talk) 07:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: i don't know if this is for everyone but in the article at the Very Very top Miley Cyrus the name of the article it is in green? why is that is it for a reason i think it is tacky. so if it has no reason then can we change it back to black --gdaly7 (talk) 15:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The background is yellow - the same for other actors and actresses and many musicians. Gimmetrow 20:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mileys name 

message: ok so miley and nick DID NOT date for 2 years and she said "he will marry me one day" which is creepy so i want to put that in there to show ho9w she was clingy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonasgirlie418 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is not fan site or gossip speculation about motives and behavior of the subject. Unless something is notable (and that means much more than just interesting to people pushing a point of view) and well referenced, it does not belong. --NrDg 16:56, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also see WP:CRYSTAL for more details about the "speculation" part. --Kanonkas :  Talk   17:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NOTSCANDAL is a good explanation as well. --NrDg 17:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationships 

message: I've never seen anything official, but I'm thinking Mezzo-soprano? Lowellt (talk) 16:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Find something published from a review or such that we can use as a reference and don't speculate. --NrDg 16:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vocal Range? 

message: I think that the Music career section have few things. I know that everything in here are important but are so superficial.Miley made several covers for Disneymania's albums, recorded a song to Bolt, wich was nominated to Golden Globe Award, and many other important things.
Can someone help me to put more things on this section? Renanx3 (talk) 00:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music career section 

message: Folks, please stop adding in useless trivia and gossip to the article. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid and not a place where unsubstantiated rumors, gossip and fun trivia are spread around. Please consult WP:NOT 2.3.3 for more information.
In particular :
1.Without a verifiable source, Justin Gaston does not belong in this article. Any notion that the two are romantically involved remains idle speculation.
2.Without a verifiable source, alleged feuds between Miley Cyrus and other people (e.g Selena Gomez) do not belong in this article. In addition, I'd question whether such information is even encyclopedic in the first place.
3.Random quotes from interviews on non-notable subjects do not belong in this article.
4.Miley Cyrus's every whereabout does not belong on this article (please stop adding in information saying she was spotted at such and such place or she goes to such and such restaurant).
Thanks
Damicatz (talk) 19:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What you say about a verifiable source? Well, I think that People is a really verifiable source.Other thing: so we should delete ALL the things in the Personal Life's section, no? Why we need to know that Cyrus is friend of Emily Osment? Wikipedia isn't a Tabloid to show personal life informations. ;) Renanx3 (talk) 13:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No Renanx, you're wrong. Damicatz makes some strong, yet valid points, your information does not belong. --Charitwo (talk) 13:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't consider People a reliable source. They quoted Miley Cyrus ad verbatim as saying that she was dating Justin Gaston from that Ellen interview when in fact she said nothing even remotely close to that during the interview. It's just another tabloid written by a bunch of yellow journalists. As for the information appearing in the Selena Gomez article, that was added in by one of the people that tried to do it to this article and has since been reverted. - Damicatz (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So tell me, why is revelant that Cyrus is friend of Emily or she's hipoglicemic and her feud with Gomez doesn't? The feud between Aguilera and Osbourne are liste here, or Aguilera and Mariah are here, why not that feud shouldn't be here? Renanx3 (talk) 14:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Read Wikipedia:Notability - Damicatz (talk) 14:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't understand the wikipedia's words can you tell me with your words? Renanx3 (talk) 14:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Her hypoglycemia has to do with her character as a person. She is big on encouraging people to limit their sugar intake. Also that information comes from a reliable source. Her friendship with EO also comes from a reliable source. As far as this alleged "feud", I have yet to see anything out of a reliable source. Everything I've seen is gossip and idle speculation. - Damicatz (talk) 14:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I still can't understand but if you saying that you right I stop. We should remove it on the Selena's page too, right? Renanx3 (talk) 14:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's still on Selena's page, yes it should be removed. - Damicatz (talk) 14:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See the section with your eyes to confirm if doesn't are verifiable sources, because if I delete it will don't have anything in the section. Renanx3 (talk) 14:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Renanx3, this is an encyclopedia, not the National Enquirer. I suggest you read WP:NOT a little more closely, particularly here, here, and most importantly here and here. I also suggest in your spare time, you check out some external reading. It seems you are having some difficulty trying to get a point across. --Charitwo (talk) 15:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you didn't understand my problem, I asked why her relationships are revelant and her feuds don't but now I know that the problem was just the sources. Renanx3 (talk) 16:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a tabloid 

message: You know what everybody? I think this article is pretty dang good. So why are we all worrying about "Oh my gosh! Miley did this and this and this and this! Add it to the article!" No. Let's only update it because of  age changes or special major news that is not gossip, something serious like she was diagnosed with some serious disease. Relax, if you have nothing but gossip, I suggest you go to a chat forum. Tweedle20 (talk) 18:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Opinions are sometimes diverged in relation to "is or not gossip", so that's  the real problem, is not that easy to know whether or not it is. Renanx3 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with tweedle20.  72.77.14.162 (talk) 23:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article 

message: First hey tweedle20 i agree not a place for gossip. but i feel that we should add in the contrversy section about her use of a body double in the bobw concert tour, it did cause a big stir. also i would like to say that she used partly because she is hypoglycemic which is mentioned in the artice, but we may want to expand on that topic also, because it is a big part of her life and she is dealing with it consently, like in consert we often see her drinking orange juice on stage.
So what you think?  --gdaly7 (talk) 17:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why should her using a body double be added to the controversy section? It wasn't a controversy and wasn't a major event, so it shouldn't be added to the article. Edgehead5150 18:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It used to be covered in the article about the concert tour but was removed as this is not a real controversy. It is purely a show design issue and has nothing to do with Cyrus. Show was designed by Kenny Ortega and Cyrus just did what she was told to do. --NrDg 20:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Hey! Thank you! Unfortunately, we can't add that. That is considered vandalism. Even though I told everyone this is not a chat forum, I must say this. Do you not find it a little odd she drinks ORANGE JUICE at her concerts? Sorry everyone, but I just had to add that. I didn't know this. Odd...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweedle20 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually we work really hard to keep bias out of articles. In what way was this an important addition and fact about Cyrus as opposed to the tour? Show design issues generally are talked about in the article about a show, not the artist. --NrDg 22:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Body double 

message: someone find out somehow and write it. height is ok if its approx i think. Madmaxxx (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This information is usually not notable for a singer/actor - given it is hard to find indicates no reliable source has "noted" it which is basically what notable means. For occupations where this is important, such as athletes, it is always widely available. --NrDg 15:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  height and weight 

message: I agree that Miley said it, but as a licensed medical doctor it appears to be a medical nonsense. This bascially means that she is underfeeding herself. If this is the case it is not "hypoglycemia" but a form of anorexia. Now, I'm not saying that she is anorexic, which I don't think she is; but I do question how she could be claming to be a [long term] "hypoglycemic" (she'd have to be clinically diabetic for this to be medically possible). Any info anyone? fr33kman -s- 04:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, I just saw this. Looks like another Hollywood fad tbh. I suggest changing it to "Cyrus claims to suffer from long-term hypoglycaemia[insert the reference]-an unrecognised medical condition."GiollaUidir (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest "an unrecognized condition" rather than "an unrecognized medical condition". The later gives it some credence. fr33kman -s- 00:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, agreed. :) 86.154.208.198 (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, strongly disagree. I have no problem with "Cyrus claims to suffer from long-term hypoglycaemia [insert the reference]." That is if that is what the reference supports. The wikilink to the term gives all the additional info and discussion required for anyone interested. It is not our job to do interpretations if the subject's beliefs are in error as that is prohibited Original research. --NrDg 01:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We also aren't required to add it to the article if it is foolish.  NOR isn't a suicide pact. Protonk (talk) 03:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article hypoglycaemia discusses the controversy of whether or not it is medical nonsense - a view not uniformly held. We can use editorial judgment in what to include in the article. We can't editorialize. This is an insignificant medical factoid that, in my opinion, does not add anything of value to the article. Also the reference seems to have died. --NrDg 03:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if the reference has died, then I think that points to it being removed in its entirety. fr33kman -s- 16:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the statement under the WP:BOLD policy. fr33kman -s- 00:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypoglycaemia? 

message: Again wikipedia says that she died but on bed this time, and the article is locked, so could someone please change it??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.43.12.1 (talk) 12:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ok where does it say that cause i can't find it
--gdaly7 (talk) 14:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism already reverted, editor blocked.—Kww(talk) 14:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

text: It was only in the article for less than a minute. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Explicitly purged the page cache. It probably did nothing, but doesn't hurt to try.—Kww(talk) 16:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Hoax again 

message: Ok this youtube video has had like 17,500 views last time i checked so its quite a big thing! anyway, i was wondering whether it should be included in her wikipedia - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Et96sDfZDFc Smileychiley (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because a youtube video has over 17,000 views doesn't make it a big thing. And no it shouldn't be added to her wikipedia page as it is not notable. Edgehead5150 08:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Which major news source reported this? See WP:N and WP:RS for what we need. Videos are easy to modify so don't trust anything that is put on an anonymous YouTube account. --NrDg 22:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Brown saying Miley Cyrus is ugly 

message: I just noticed that the source for the name change from Destiny Hope Cyrus to Miley Ray Cyrus is no longer available due to the sites update. But I did find another reliable source on it. http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/01/58023/ --Ksto9 (talk) 06:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated. Edgehead5150 07:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Put back original reference with updated url. Jan 2008 source was wrong as it reported the name change has having happened then that actually did not occur until May 2008. --NrDg 16:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  name change source 

message: I feel that such an info needs to be backed up by more than one reliable source. TMZ is a tabloid site and we need a more Reliable source to back the fact. Moreover, is the incident just a gossip news or has it been covered by mainstream media??? Unless it's been broadly covered in mainstream media, I personally feel that it is not worth putting in the article. Ofcourse, if its been largely covered and affects her career, then maybe we can mention it in the article....just wanna know others' views on it ...Gprince007 (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Reuters, and MTV are reporting about this incident. --Kanonkas :  Talk   15:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Could make a weak case for the Reuters link, but probably would be best served waiting this one out for a few days (there may have been more coverage yesterday had it not been for the Michael Phelps fiasco or two Obama appointees having to bow out).  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I left the press release link and the reuters reference that reported on the press release. All other news sources I've seen just restate the press release and add nothing. This is only news because a sensitized organization officially complained. When and if there is further fallout from this event we should add that then if it is notable. --NrDg 04:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

text: UPDATE: The FOX News site has a new story stating that there's one woman who has filed a class action lawsuit against Cyrus for a total of $4 billion.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mocking people of asian descent 

message: Miley has a page on omg! that links to articles, photos, and other resources:
http://omg.yahoo.com/celebs/miley-cyrus/223 --Lalaboywp 15:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lots of similar pages all over the web; we don't add every link that's relevant, just the ones that are actually helpful to the reader. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please review our external links guideline. I suggest you don't put that in the article. --Kanonkas :  Talk   23:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Just wondered it anyone else noticed a wrong link.
I know that Miley went to Heritage Middle School and its says that in the article but it has the wrong link, the wikipedia article it links to is a school in Georgia and Miley went to Heritage Middle School in Franklin, Tennesse.  That link needs to be removed.
MyOwnWorld (talk) 15:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: --NrDg 15:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Link 

message: Could someone please add that Miley and Nick are back together. it was confirmed by Joe Jonas
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20286353,00.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.129.18 (talk) 02:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nick Jonas 

message: we have to put in wiki about her feud with radiohead.....it is big.lot of people have criticised her for this  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aman9 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There were at least a few pages on some notable and reliable new pages... Moocowsrule (talk) 03:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The info might have been on some reliable sites, but it still isn't notible. Edgehead5150 07:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

text: If everyone agreed with you it wouldn't be a controversy. Since they don't, it is. --NrDg 19:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: First hey tweedle20 i agree not a place for gossip. but i feel that we should add in the contrversy section about her use of a body double in the bobw concert tour, it did cause a big stir. also i would like to say that she used partly because she is hypoglycemic which is mentioned in the artice, but we may want to expand on that topic also, because it is a big part of her life and she is dealing with it consently, like in consert we often see her drinking orange juice on stage.
So what you think?  --gdaly7 (talk) 17:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why should her using a body double be added to the controversy section? It wasn't a controversy and wasn't a major event, so it shouldn't be added to the article. Edgehead5150 18:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It used to be covered in the article about the concert tour but was removed as this is not a real controversy. It is purely a show design issue and has nothing to do with Cyrus. Show was designed by Kenny Ortega and Cyrus just did what she was told to do. --NrDg 20:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Hey! Thank you! Unfortunately, we can't add that. That is considered vandalism. Even though I told everyone this is not a chat forum, I must say this. Do you not find it a little odd she drinks ORANGE JUICE at her concerts? Sorry everyone, but I just had to add that. I didn't know this. Odd...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweedle20 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually we work really hard to keep bias out of articles. In what way was this an important addition and fact about Cyrus as opposed to the tour? Show design issues generally are talked about in the article about a show, not the artist. --NrDg 22:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Body double 

message: someone find out somehow and write it. height is ok if its approx i think. Madmaxxx (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This information is usually not notable for a singer/actor - given it is hard to find indicates no reliable source has "noted" it which is basically what notable means. For occupations where this is important, such as athletes, it is always widely available. --NrDg 15:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  height and weight 

message: I agree that Miley said it, but as a licensed medical doctor it appears to be a medical nonsense. This bascially means that she is underfeeding herself. If this is the case it is not "hypoglycemia" but a form of anorexia. Now, I'm not saying that she is anorexic, which I don't think she is; but I do question how she could be claming to be a [long term] "hypoglycemic" (she'd have to be clinically diabetic for this to be medically possible). Any info anyone? fr33kman -s- 04:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, I just saw this. Looks like another Hollywood fad tbh. I suggest changing it to "Cyrus claims to suffer from long-term hypoglycaemia[insert the reference]-an unrecognised medical condition."GiollaUidir (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest "an unrecognized condition" rather than "an unrecognized medical condition". The later gives it some credence. fr33kman -s- 00:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, agreed. :) 86.154.208.198 (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, strongly disagree. I have no problem with "Cyrus claims to suffer from long-term hypoglycaemia [insert the reference]." That is if that is what the reference supports. The wikilink to the term gives all the additional info and discussion required for anyone interested. It is not our job to do interpretations if the subject's beliefs are in error as that is prohibited Original research. --NrDg 01:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We also aren't required to add it to the article if it is foolish.  NOR isn't a suicide pact. Protonk (talk) 03:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article hypoglycaemia discusses the controversy of whether or not it is medical nonsense - a view not uniformly held. We can use editorial judgment in what to include in the article. We can't editorialize. This is an insignificant medical factoid that, in my opinion, does not add anything of value to the article. Also the reference seems to have died. --NrDg 03:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if the reference has died, then I think that points to it being removed in its entirety. fr33kman -s- 16:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the statement under the WP:BOLD policy. fr33kman -s- 00:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't have to be diabetic to suffer hypoglycaemia. :/ Some doctor you are..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.20.234 (talk) 13:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypoglycaemia? 

message: Again wikipedia says that she died but on bed this time, and the article is locked, so could someone please change it??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.43.12.1 (talk) 12:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ok where does it say that cause i can't find it
--gdaly7 (talk) 14:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism already reverted, editor blocked.—Kww(talk) 14:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

text: It was only in the article for less than a minute. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Explicitly purged the page cache. It probably did nothing, but doesn't hurt to try.—Kww(talk) 16:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Hoax again 

message: Ok this youtube video has had like 17,500 views last time i checked so its quite a big thing! anyway, i was wondering whether it should be included in her wikipedia - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Et96sDfZDFc Smileychiley (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because a youtube video has over 17,000 views doesn't make it a big thing. And no it shouldn't be added to her wikipedia page as it is not notable. Edgehead5150 08:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Which major news source reported this? See WP:N and WP:RS for what we need. Videos are easy to modify so don't trust anything that is put on an anonymous YouTube account. --NrDg 22:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Brown saying Miley Cyrus is ugly