Talk:Erin Pizzey

message: "Suppression" of her book? Perhaps it was simply unpopular. This is quite biased and needs rewriting.Zantastik 07:00, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll email her to try to find out what form this suppression might have taken, because in my searches there are several references to it elsewhere on the Internet, so there might be something in it. Matt Stan 13:56, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no possible bias in a statement of simple fact. The article states that "some internet sources make the claim that ..." which is beyond dispute, as a brief Google search will reveal. Some internet sources do make that claim. Further, it cautiously notes that they do so on little evidence. This is more than sufficient to meet NPOV standards and does not require a rewrite.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.147.166 (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The previous wording was:
Some internet sources make the highly controversial claim that Prone to Violence was suppressed by feminists.
'High controversy' would require that notable sources claiming otherwise also exist. What are they? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.24.176.5 (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  If you call a claim "highly controversial", please document the existence of the controversy 

message: Is she related to the deceased Rhodesian author Daniel Carney? I read her CV and the personal information there made me think that this was the case. I sent her an e-mail inquiry some time ago, but never received a response. Anyone know for sure? Splatt (talk) 20:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Family

message: He never talked about violence against men. I suggest to modify the text: In 1975 MP Jack Ashley stated, limited aspect of violence against women, in the House of Commons that:....... 
Thanks --Lungoleno (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Jack Ashley

message: I know Erin personally quite well and speak to her regularly. I also do a bi-weekly radio show with her, which this article mentions. Since I know her personally and work with her regularly I have a Conflict Of Interest, however, I also have direct access to ask her any questions or request any references from her. If desired I can be contacted to answer questions, if that's useful to anyone.Dean Esmay (talk) 19:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a notable interview with Erin Pizzey which answers a lot of questions about her views and her past available at www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/refuting-40-years-of-lies-about-violence/ Dean Esmay (talk) 14:19, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedian In Residence offer

message: Pizzey has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because of her stance that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally as capable of violence as men.[4][5][6]
These citations make that statement, but don't quote primary sources of the death threats or boycotts.  Which make them poor citations for this effect.  It would be better to say:
Pizzey and her allies claim she has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because of her stance on domestic violence as equal between sexes.[4][5][6]
Because that's what the citations claim.  The reason for the death threats would require a non-partisan view of the threats themselves; shouldn't wikipedia not make a stance or use one side's language over the other?  174.62.68.53 (talk) 00:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "These citations make that statement, but don't quote primary sources of ..." On wikipedia we don't rely on primary sources for supporting article content, we chiefly rely on secondary sources and report what they say if they are reliable. This is to avoid original research, Second Quantization (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations don't support the statement 

message: One of the newspaper references (which I closed out of and can't find again, maybe someone can find it?) mentioned that a sociologist disagreed with her book's ideas on the reason women return to abusive situations. As someone with a formal education in psychology and sociology, I do recognize that her views are "fringe," and her statements elsewhere about emotional abuse not being equal to physical abuse are highly controversial. Although I do have the ability to perform research on the validity of her claims, I recognize this may not be what Wikipedia wants. Therefore, I mostly lack the ability to make such a section myself. (I also apologize for my confusing mixture of formal and informal language, which I am unable to see myself but have been frequently told exists.) Narky Sawtooth (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  There should be a "criticisms" section 

message: Removed refs containing blacklisted sites bounced through other sites as per this discussion. The content has been left in tact with "citation needed" templates added as appropriate. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 03:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Erin Pizzey#Current work|'Current work' section]] 

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message: One of the web-sites mentioned under "External links" seems to be unrelated to the subject.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.216.69 (talk) 11:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems  

message: In the "Later Work" section, a passage reads:
"In 2013, she joined the editorial and advisory board of the men's rights organization A Voice for Men[citation needed] (serving as an Editor and DV Policy Advisor) and from January to August wrote thirteen articles for the group's web site. Only one was published 14 July the following year. None was published in the first half of 2015."
I see a number of issues here....
One, if there's no citation that she even was on the board of AVfM, it seems rather dubious that she's writing all of these articles that aren't being published.  It also sounds odd that she would be an editor but only able to get one out of thirteen articles published on their website.
But who knows, it could be true, and not knowing her or any of the AVfM people personally, I don't know what issues may have transpired between them.  Even if it is true though, I'm skeptical about its relevance to this article, and its presence here strikes me as a sort of WP:Coatracking - i.e. using her biography article as a springboard to suggest that AVfM is discriminating against her based on her gender.
Again, I don't know what the actual truth of the matter is, but unless there's some substantiation of all of this (e.g. if she's written about the issue or if reporters interviewing her have covered it) then I don't think it makes sense to include all that. -2003:CA:83C3:F100:A853:595B:E9D6:CD10 (talk) 22:02, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed removal...