Talk:Metro Atlanta

message: This page is a daughter article of the Atlanta, Georgia page WhisperToMe 08:27, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Daughter article

message: These numbers seem too high, where did they come from: 1,090,000 (Fulton), 781,000 (Cobb)...
This appears to be vandalism:
Revision as of 19:17, 27 August 2006 (edit)
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68.219.137.236 07:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Where did county population numbers come from?

message: The article starts off According to the 2000 census, the 20-county Atlanta, Georgia metropolitan area. However the list of counties, and the map, only show 19 counties. Looking at the US Census Bureau's list of metro areas , it seems the difference is Pickens County, which they include in the metro area but we don't.
To add further to the confusion, the article on MARTA effectively lists metro Atlanta's counties as being Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb, Gwinnett and Clayton and no others. 
So which is correct. Or do we need to rewrite this article to say there are multiple conflicting definitions in play. -- Chris j wood 21:56, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No response to the above question in three weeks, so I've added  to the page in the hope somebody who can help resolve the current articles self-contradictory state will notice it. -- Chris j wood 21:31, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counties: 20, 19 or 5? 

message: Anonymous contributor 164.111.195.234 has re-instated the map I dropped above. It is not clear if this was a statement that 164.111.195.234 believes the 28-county definition to be wrong, or whether they simply hadn't noticed that the map no longer corresponds to the definition of the Atlanta metropolitan area adopted above. Either way, either the text or the map must change to keep consistency, and as 164.111.195.234 is anonymous and made no attempt to explain the change, it is easiest to stick with the text and drop the map again. -- Chris j wood 12:04, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dropped map again 

message: I propose changing the name of this page from 'Atlanta Metropolitan Area' to 'Metro Atlanta' for two reasons:  1) It more accurately reflects its name, and 2) Other metro areas, such as Chicago, are titled "Chicagoland", and renaming this page would move Atlanta into that category.  auburnirishman  23:59 20 Jun 2007
:Actually Atlanta metropolitan area is the more proper name. You'll find the corresponding article for Chicago is Chicago metropolitan area. Take a look at United States metropolitan area and you'll find among the Top 25 metropolitan areas, the xxxxx metropolitan area form is the majority, followed by Greater xxxxx and then a few singleton forms related to how a particular area (strongly) names itself (Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, Delaware Valley, Inland Empire (California) including one, Metro Detroit, matching your proposed form. While there certainly is common usage among residents for "Metro Atlanta", I don't think it justifies the rename. AUTiger » talk 17:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with AUTiger. And Metro Atlanta already redirects to here, so anyone searching for that will still end up in the same place. -- Satori Son 17:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the name 

message: I think that we should at least mention the differences in race distribution and wealth throughout the area. Since Metro Atlanta stands as the definitive example of the New South, it is only right that this article should talk about the differences seen when one compares income and educational qualities of areas such as the downtown district and Marietta. Sociology isn't my forte, but I would be willing to work with others to bring this about.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrathel (talk • contribs).
:I'm not entirely sure what it is you wish to discuss or compare when you use an undefined term like "downtown district" - do you mean the City of Atlanta, the Downtown neighborhood (CBD) of the City of Atlanta, or specific zips/census tracts?  In any case, it sounds suspiciously like (or perilously close to) original research. AUTiger » talk 06:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I agree.  The Dallas metro area, for instance, has a segment for demographics.  Metro Atlanta should as well. Mr2b (talk) 00:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: "The first commuter rail line would run south of the city, eventually extended to Lovejoy and possibly Hampton near Atlanta Motor Speedway. This project took two decades under Democrats, and has now been threatened by some Republicans in the Georgia General Assembly as being "wasteful", despite being successful in every other U.S. city that has it."
Probably the most obvious example of pro-public transportation bias in this article.  No measure of success is cited.  Arguments against a commuter rail-line connecting Lovejoy and Hampton are ignored.  Arguments against expansion of MARTA into Clayton, Cobb, and Gwinnett Counties are similarly ignored, and instead opposition to MARTA is passively associated with "White Flight."  No citations for that either.
Should stick to the facts and figures of the transportation system.  If this article has to delve into the politics of public transportation, both sides should be presented as unbiased as possible.
Speaking of arguments against public transportation...how come there are no sections for entertainment or sports?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.89.179 (talk) 07:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia does not decide what counties are in the Metropolitan area. The Census Bureau does. It is largely based off commuter patterns and economic and social relations locally. Georgia has a large rural population (dense as rural populations go). It makes it harder to draw the line between the economic and social boundaries of a city and outlying rural areas. In contrast Miami is surrounded by uninhabitable areas. Lastly, Georgia has tiny counties. It isn't about the number of counties alone. Cwkimbro (talk) 02:21, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public Transportation 

message: The Atlanta city page keeps getting demographic info for the entire metro. A demographic section needs to be created on this page so the Atlanta demographic section can be cleaned up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmann3333 (talk • contribs) 05:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: * The current lists are all mixed up. Many exurbs are listed as suburbs. Then there are two lists: cities and suburbs. There is no clear definition of what a suburb and an exurb is. E.g. some of the "suburbs", such as Cartersville, are really exurbs. Many incorporated cities with over 10,000 are listed as suburbs. The data used was obviously mixed and out of date. I will combine the list, leave any existing cities/suburbs/exurbs with under 10,000 since they will probably grow anyway and/or may be included with different CDP boundaries in the 2010 census. Finally, http://www.citypopulation.de/USA-Georgia.html is not very complete. I'm going to update data from 2009 data in http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/files/SUB-EST2008-ALL.csv and sort by population since it's already partially sorted that way. Some CDPs like Vinings CDP and Belvedere Park CDP haven't been updated by the census bureau since 2000 (and thus not listed on the CSV). For those CDPs, I will use other data and cite it (usually City Data since people who maintain the City Data pages are usually very picky). I don't know why I am bothering since the 2010 census will be available in a year, however this will in fact make our work easier when it is released. The article http://www.census.gov/econ/census07/pdf/state/georgia.pdf is also helpful, since it talks about the CDPs. For instance, Brookhaven is part of "North Atlanta CDP" and there is no known seperate census data for Brookhaven alone. Netdragon (talk) 20:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suburbs and surrounding cities 

message: "The area is the world's largest toll-free calling zone spanning 7,162 square miles (18,549 km2), has three active telephone area codes, and local calling extending into portions of two others."
What is this supposed to mean? Area code 406 covers all of Montana (147,042 square miles), to name just one of many that cover a larger area than metro Atlanta. And there's no way it's the biggest toll-free area requiring 10-digit dialing—several in Canada are clearly bigger, and possibly some in the US. Could it refer to population? I don't know if those numbers are available anywhere, but that seems pretty dubious too. Jwsinclair (talk) 18:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I also wonder what that entry is about: "world largest toll-free zone". Almost every phone service in the US is toll-free for domestic calls, except for very few.Merlin1935 (talk) 05:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying that a call from Billings to Missoula would be a local call?  That seems unlikely. john k (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I don't know if this claim is still true, but it use to be. The key phrase is "toll-free." It isn't the world's largest area code, but it was the largest area where there was no long-distance charge to call within. Many area codes use to charge a small long-distance fee if the call was far enough away. If often has to do with how the call is routed through different telephone exchanges. Cwkimbro (talk) 02:13, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "World's largest toll-free calling zone" 

message: According to http://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/metroarea/us_wall/Dec_2009/cbsa_us_1209.pdf, the list of counties is a bit off. Putnam County is not in either the MSA or the CSA, and Troup County (in the CSA as part of the LaGrange MSA) is missing. There's also no way to differentiate between counties in the MSA and CSA.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattquest50 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Counties in CSA/MSA 

message: What is the value of citing Japanese population in Metro Atlanta as at 1990 without a contextual reference to present day population? Without reference to growth, this citation of a two decade-old statistics has no significance. Suggests to delete it, or relate the 1990 number to most recent population figure to provide meaning.  Merlin1935 (talk) 06:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Demographics 

message: Why is this article saying something implying Washington DC is in the southeast?? The metropolitan area is in Maryland. Georgia guy (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Traditionally Maryland is in the South and is south of the Mason-Dixon Line. That metro is also in Virginia. Cwkimbro (talk) 02:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Washington DC 

message: This is per the US Office of Management and Budget's February 2013 definition:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/bulletins/2013/b-13-01.pdf
Also, the name is no longer the Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta MSA, but the Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell MSA.  I'd like to discuss this with contributors before making the change.
Aglassonion (talk) 02:30, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it only took two years but Morgan has been added. --RDavi404 (talk) 18:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to update Atlanta MSA definition to include 29 counties 

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message: In the Education section, I think there should be a list of school districts (in accordance with the counties in the MSA)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesomegaming (talk • contribs) 20:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Districts 

message: * The current image "surrounds" map leaves out some metro counties such as Paulding and Forsyth and others because the original counties list was missing some MSA counties. It is likewise missing some cities in those counties (including cities Hiram, Dallas, but strangely includes Cumming already). A good timing for fixing this is the inevitable updates when Cobb County cities of Mableton, Vinings, Lost Mountain and/or East Cobb form since all will need to be updated for that along with South Fulton and some others that formed a few years back which also aren't on the map yet. See https://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/Atlanta%20Service%20Area%20Map.pdf Netdragon (talk) 04:06, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Cobb County and South Fulton cities and 1990s counties 

message: Can someone have a list of Municipalities of the Atlanta CSA 2600:1700:6180:6290:F1C5:D498:AB50:50BC (talk) 17:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Municipalities of the Atlanta CSA 

message: it's a city in Clayton County where I lived for a while 11k population according to the usps zip code 30273 71.56.52.229 (talk) 02:34, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  missing Rex Georgia 

message: The historical population table should be updated to include yearly estimates like it used to in years past.  It doesn't seem to be editable. 146.126.61.241 (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Population Table 

message: The entire geography section reads like a personal opinion, and it’s missing citations. Mini Inanna (talk) 19:03, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography section reads like a personal opinion 

message: The section of the article that lists all the entities in the Atlanta GA-AL Combined Statistical Area needs editing. The table is inaccurate. The Toccoa, GA Micropolitan Statistical Area is no longer part of the CSA, and the Calhoun, GA Micropolitan Statistical Area is. See the July 2023 OMB Bulletin: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/OMB-Bulletin-23-01.pdf Tompdav214 (talk) 07:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atlanta CSA table needs editing 

message: Georgia Swarm needs to be added, and their are likely other sports teams in Atlanta that arent listed. JackMCOBBGA (talk) 14:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professional Sports teams needs editing