Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/El Gringo

message: Does someone move this into the 'accepted' section or are we at liberty to do so when the conditions listed in the opening paragraph are met? --Robdurbar 18:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The page isn't protected and I couldn't see any dire warnings, so I've moved this. Hope that's ok. Addhoc 11:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Accepted

message: I have not seen any of this provocation that some commentators have mentioned. I'm not saying that this is not the case, as I have not seen everything that El Gringo has added, but I would appreciate it if any of the editors who have witnessed this provocation include links to some examples. --Mal 00:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One such case is described in the WP:PAIN report listed in the Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute, where a personal attack was made in response to being described as a racist. I wouldn't call it an excusable response, but it was provoked. --Crimsone 00:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest - though I didn't want to name names - I was thinking in particular of many User:TharkunColl's comments at Talk:British Isles. --Robdurbar 11:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Provocation?

message: Victims of El Gringo's abuse may be disappointed to read this: User talk:Shell Kinney#El Gringo.  Gsd2000 20:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:PAIN]] got nowhere 

message: Moved from Outside View section.EricR 23:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Robdurbar|Robdurbar]] comments moved to talk 

message: What's the point of this page - is anything actually going to come of it? Gsd2000 22:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus building :) Crimsone 01:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Requests for comment (RfC) is the open part of the dispute resolution process, by which editors can seek broad input regarding disputes over article content, user conduct, and Wikipedia policy and guidelines. That's what is happening. Daniel.Bryant 02:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But what is going to come of it?  We're not resolving a dispute here.  If we were, El Gringo would be involved.  Gsd2000 09:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if E-Gringo is going to ignore it then there's not really much that this page can do. HOWEVER, it does do the following:
* It provides a serious note to him that users have found his actions basicially unaceptable. If he tones down his behaviour as a result of it, then it has suceeded. 
* One of the problems surrounding conflicts between Irish/British editors is that it is often 'the same old faces' on both 'sides' (though I hate to think of it as such). This page will hopefully indicate to ElG that those who are unhappy about his edits are not just 'us people' from the UK, but that outsiders endorse our view that his personal attacks - not his opinion or wikipedia contributions - is a problem
* If El Gringo were to continue to make personal attacks, or resume (he hasn't edited wikipedia since September 7th), then it allows users to take more serious steps in ensuring that he stops such edits.
--Robdurbar 18:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank you; I sometimes feel as if all edits from British editors are bracketed into one category as 'useless' by some Irish editors, though I know and appreciate that that isnt the case; I've enjoyed working with you Mel. --Robdurbar 20:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point of this Page?