Talk:Middle Persian

message: What happened to the Persian language during Parthian times? Was that Middle Persian too? Or the language went unwritten?Cpom 20:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unwritten?

message: As far as I know, very little of Parthian-era writing exists, but it's generally held that it was a Northwest Iranian language (as opposed to Southwest Iranian, which is the family of MP and its descendent NP).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper Zanjani (talk • contribs) 16:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parthian MP 

message: According to Compendium Linguarum Iranicarum, the transition between old persian and middle persian was already in progress by the start of the Achaemenid Dynasty and most probably the innovations in the language of the persian people in the early or at most mid-parthian era can be identified as those of the middle persian language. The evidence it mentions are the lexical errors as well as recurring patterns in use of some forms in the late achaemenid inscriptions which show that the language was no longer in use, because of the little understanding of the people of the already lost old persian. Besides, Darius himself calls the language "The language of ancestors" which means it was not even in use by, I don't know maybe 500 BC.حضرت محمود (talk) 09:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: Of course, Middle Persian lost many case inflections. But, to my knowledge, it still had a two-way case system. The direct case had no ending in both singular and plural, while the oblique case had no ending in the singular and -ân in the plural. A few words like brâd (brother) had the following declension: Direct sg. brâd, Oblique sg. and Direct pl. brâdar, Oblique pl. brâdarân. And the personal pronoun of the 1. person sg. was also inflected, man was the oblique case, I've forgotten what the direct case was.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.206.145.1 (talk) 14:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lost their case inflections" 

message: Hey guys, I don't know who invented this definition, but for sure it is an absurd definition and misrepresenting of the facts. The title must be Pahlavi Language, not as "Middle Persian". Today there a lot of Pahlavi Language dictionaries all-around the World and none of them defines the term "Pahlavi" as "Persian". In fact, they were already using the term "Persian" as "Pārsīg". I can give you David Neil MacKenzie's "A Concise Pahlavi Dictionary" work as an example, who was a scholar of Iranian languages ( https://www.avetruthbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/d.-n.-mackenzie.-a-concise-pahlavi-dictionary-1986.pdf )[Page 87 i.e 65]. As it is obviously seen in this dictionary that the Pahlavi people were already using the term ""Pārsīg" for "Persian". And, for Pahlawi Language the term "Pahlawig = Pahlavi" [page. 64]. So it a nonsense title, please let's be loyal to the facts and change the title as "Pahlavi Language" only. Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.70.245.165 (talk) 22:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Persian? For sure it is baseless. 

message: ===Other sample texts===
I'm not sure what these particular excerpts add, they seem superfluous and random to me, and the page is already very long now that I've added sections on phonology and grammar as well as samples from other MP varieties. I'm moving them to the talk page. Frankly, I would do the same with the poem, the popular comparisons with New Persian, the cognate list etc., but I don't want to rock the boat excessively, so I'm leaving it to others to decide.--Anonymous44 (talk) 07:22, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved from article 

message: I'm not sure what these particular excerpts add, they seem superfluous and random to me, and the page is already very long now that I've added sections on phonology and grammar as well as samples from other MP varieties. I'm moving them to the talk page. Frankly, I would do the same with the poem, the popular comparisons with New Persian, the cognate list etc., but I don't want to rock the boat excessively, so I'm leaving it to others to decide.--Anonymous44 (talk) 07:22, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Other sample texts

message: This was the first example of Manichaean MP that I included, but I replaced it because I thought it could be perceived as a bit unseemly and raunchy. But it has got some great examples of the ergative agreement pattern and is a very cool text in its own way, so I don't have the heart not to keep it on the talk page at least.--Anonymous44 (talk) 08:21, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The original Manichaean Middle Persian sample text that I had included 

message: The founder of Sasanian Empire Ardashir I, denied to be called as Persian. Even their language and morphology much more closer to Kurmanji than to Persian. They did use the letter "w" as it extinct in Persian language. Stop Persian racism.Ebulfîda (talk) 11:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The title must be "Pahlawî" not "Middle Persian".