Talk:Crash Bandicoot Purple: Ripto's Rampage

message: Seriously merging this with that will mean we may have to merge the two differant game articles. Even if we don't have to it will cause confusion and this mainly follows off the plot of Crash Bandicoot 2: N. Tranced. You see Cortex is not being commanded by Uka Uka so if we are merging this article I sugest with N Tranced. If we merge it with Tranced we should keep everything under control.--Stinkysoxmon (talk) 04:02, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no official evidence that says that Ripto's Rampage follows off from N-Tranced. As far as we know, Ripto's Rampage is very much a standalone adventure in the series. Though I'm seriously considering merging Ripto's Rampage and The Cortex Conspiracy together to make one article as they are connected to each other in the same way as The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons are, or a majority of the dual Pokemon games (like Red and Blue or Diamond and Pearl).  (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know but that does make Orange a standalone game too. You see does Uka Uka appear in this game no. Cortex is once again the main villain. This ends the trilogy started by the Huge Adventure. We could even merge this series with The Huge Adventure and N. Tranced and make a Crash Bandicoot (Handheld Series) article. This way we could list all three main games and the gameboy games that also have console versions. Same thing with Spyro. Also the Spyro series was rebooted so this wouldn't count as a Spyro game, and what would we call the article if we merged it?--Stinkysoxmon (talk) 16:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Merges based on in-universe info would hardly be a logical decision. The two Crash games that precede Purple have large enough 'critical reception' sections to be considered notable and deserving of individual articles. However, Purple and Orange were intended to be similar to each other (much like the examples I explained earlier) and would work better as a merged article of the two.  (talk) 18:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree as I own the four games and to me Spyro Orange is related more to Spyro: Attack of the Rynoc's which I also own. While the only relation Orange has to Purple is the title, inclusion of Crash and Spyro, also inclusion of Cortex and Ripto. Other than that Crash Purple moreover directs to N. Tranced. 
Reason 1: Purple is in the gameboy advance universe which consists of three adventures (XS, N. Tranced, and Purple) 
Reason 2: Cortex is no longer under Uka Uka's control as he was fired in N. Tranced. 
Reason 3: It shows Tiny and Cortex implying that they were the only survivers of XS. 
Reason 4: Tiny is under Cortex's control which show's why he does not appear in N. Tranced. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 19:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Implications and personal opinions are original research, which doesn not qualify as reliable information in Wikipedia. As no other games are directly referred to in Purple or Orange, they do not officialy direct to any game in their respective series and are thus a standalone adventure.  (talk) 21:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Number one this is not a self implication and it is very idiotic to mention I played a game and in the game the bad guy said I was in the last game Crash Bandicoot: N. Tranced. That is a very Idiotic mention. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly where in the game does the bad guy say "I was in the last game Crash Bandicoot: N. Tranced"? I certainly don't recall seeing that in the game.  (talk) 05:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you retarded or something the bad guy doesn't say that. What you mentioned above earlier means something like that  I mean why would creators do that, they let the details of a video game do the work for buyers to decide if it is a sequel. Now relating to that if Spyro Orange is not a direct sequel to attack of the rynocs then it is the concluding game of the series started by Spyro: Season of Ice.--Stinkysoxmon (talk) 16:34, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's your fault for not wording the sentence better, and please refrain from further insults on this site. Furthermore, Wikipedia only allows official information to be relied on as sources and references. It is not the buyers who decide whether a game is a sequel or not (as that would be original research). It is the company that created the game and/or series that decides so, or a game-reviewing site or a similar source.  (talk) 19:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You know what I'm gonna help sox out here how do you know Wrath of Cortex is a sequel to warped. I mean Cortex became a baby at the end. This could be a reboot in which Uka hadn't been imprisoned. --Schmeater (talk) 02:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The key words there are could be, as in not officially, as in shouldn't be on Wikipedia. And we're getting off-subject here. The point is that it's not a good idea to merge two or more articles together just because some characters appeared in the games and some of them didn't. However, what is a good idea is merging two articles of games that are extremely similar to each other in story and/or mechanics, such as Link: The Faces of Evil/Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon or Pokemon Diamond/Pokemon Pearl.  (talk) 03:30, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In case your forgeting Crash Purple and Spyro Orange corssover Pearl and Diamond don't, also Platinum is a completely differant game that deserves it's own article. So if you are going to merge these to articles what would you call them. --Schmeater (talk) 22:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But it does not have its own article, unless of course you plan on doing something about that, which I highly discourage. And the article would be called "Crash Bandicoot Purple: Ripto's Rampage and Spyro Orange: The Cortex Conspiracy". Since they pretty much share the same plot, the merge between them is very do-able.  (talk) 00:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell me why Platinum doesn't have it's own article, and what would your plot for "Crash Bandicoot Purple: Ripto's Rampage and Spyro Orange: The Cortex Conspiracy" be. I would like to know. --Schmeater (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Platinum is basically a director's cut version of Diamond and Pearl (much like Yellow, Crystal and Emerald were), so it'd be redundant if it had its own article. And I assure you that the plot for the merged article will be sorted out once the merger is completed. Course, we're going to have to see if the merger idea goes over well with the higher-ups. I think I'll contact the WikiProject Videogame members and see what they think.  (talk) 02:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What too scared to think of the plot right now also in the handheld page in the crash template it shows Crash Purple at the end of handheld series, so it's safe to assume that wikipedia has already done what you are trying to prove to me. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 00:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's because there's no place to put the summary at the moment, that is until the pages are merged. And I'm confused; what has Wikipedia done?  (talk) 00:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you the person who want's to merge this article can't think of a summary, why are you thinking to merge this. Seriously if I was in your place I would have kept both summarys and it would be under a title called summary with two ='s and then under that Crash Purple summary with three ='s, under that the plot then it says Spyro Orange Summary with three ='s. So if you wan't me to continue this could also be a prequel to MOM. In MOM Cortex actually captures Uka in this he isn't even with Uka. We could merge it there but the merge would be ugly. So this merge would also be ugly. Ugly mean's bad. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 02:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the plots connect with each other in such a way that they can easily be merged into one plot summary. And there's no way this could be a prequel to MoM. A prequel is defined as a work that supplements a previously released work and has an earlier time setting. Purple and Orange predated MoM by four years and thus cannot be a prequel. I must say your arguments are becoming increasingly less credible.  (talk) 05:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The only thing that differentiates the two games are the player characters and the titles. They are quite similar to each other otherwise. Doesn't help that their plots are parallel to each other, either.  (talk) 19:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The same could be said of a lot of video games. That doesn't mean we merge them into multi-game cluster pages.Simonm223 (talk) 21:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, but that's not the point here. What I'm trying to say is that the two games we are discussing right now have the same characters, same story and same gameplay, and they were released at the same time even. The only thing that is different between them is the character the player controls. I mean, you don't see Pokemon Ruby and Pokemon Sapphire having separate articles, or Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons, so I really don't see why we should be keeping Crash Purple and Spyro Orange separate.  (talk) 23:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I know of Spyro a Hero's tail crosses over with Twinsanity. Having passed both games Spyro faces the final foe in the same arena in which Crash faces the evil twins, Spyro also chaces off N. Tropy in the same facility, they just get there differant way's. So why don't we merge those two game articles it may be a small crossover but it's still a crossover. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no official evidence that says that the final boss of A Hero's Tail is fought in the Crash universe's Tenth Dimension. In fact, according to the article for that game, Red is fought underneath a volcano, which is nowhere near the Evil Twins' lair. And again, merging two articles because of some dubious and speculative in-universe information is an utterly foolish idea. Merging two articles because they were created to compliment each other narratively, developed at the same time by the same company and released on the same date, however, is not.  (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I misworded that, Spyro goes through the ficility in which Crash fight's The Evil Twin's, chases off N.Tropy and makes his way to the volcano in Twinsanity Island, where he fights Red. And Spyro: Orange is the same thing as: Merging two articles because they were created to compliment each other narratively, developed at the same time by the same company and released on the same date, however, is not. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 02:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no solid, official evidence that says that the Twinsanity volcano is the same as Red's lair, and I definitely know they don't say that in the games. And just because you think it's not okay to merge two similar articles together doesn't mean the rest of us won't think it is either.  (talk) 04:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry to correct you again but why is Spyro even in Twinsanity, and in a Hero's Tail you hear an alarm go "Orange Creature Invading Base" or something like that and Spyro suspects it's the professor, don't ask me where it says because I havn't played in about four years. Also everyone involved in this conversation is against you desicion. Me, Schmeater, and Simon223. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 19:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why Spyro was in Twinsanity in the first place, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that the Spyro and Crash franchises are both owned by Vivendi Games, thus allowing the cameo to take place. And the Professor is in fact orange as I recall, so it was most likely the Professor that was doing the invading. And yes, I am aware that all three of you are against the decision to merge the Crash Purple and Spyro Orange pages. That is why it's my duty as a more experienced Wikipedia editor (I've been an editor here for 3-and-a-half years, just so you know) to finally convince you that merging thes two articles is viable. Or just keep shooting down your arguments until you give up. Either way work. Besides, if there's anybody who has the authority to carry out the merger, it's the administrators and/or editors even more experienced than myself, neither of which has arrived to finally resolve the issue yet.  (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's your job as a more experianced editor to not brag and be a role model but, I know the proffesor is orange but the professor was captured when it said that, plus the proffesor wen't underground. --Stinkysoxmon (talk) 18:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't bragging. Now if you excuse me, I'd better get going on creating the new article. Besides, according to an edit made by Icarus3, legit (as in non-sock puppet) users can re-do the merge if useful, so I might as well go ahead with it.  (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
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