Talk:Eve Online/Archive 4

message: I have removed the Category "Space Opera" from the article, wikipedias definition of a space opera is:
"Space opera is a subgenre of speculative fiction or science fiction that emphasizes romantic adventure, exotic settings, and larger-than-life characters."
*EVE does not emphasize romantic adventure.
*As with most MMOs characters can not be larger than life or "heros" because everyone would be.
-- Richard Slater (Talk to me!) 09:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally the majority of events in EVE are neither scripted, written or predetermined. --Battlehamster 12:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: EVE is Not a Space Opera

message: I have requested a citation on Quafe being a repackaged Egils Orka, the only information I can find is this and this which mention that CCP are partnering with Egils. There may be something useful on this or this, however Icelandic was not covered at GCSE. -- Richard Slater (Talk to me!) 18:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see a citation as well. The first link you gave seems to have the most useful info (for someone who doesn't speak Icelandic), but it doesn't indicate where it got the information. A Google search of the egils site for 'Quafe' turned up nothing. --Battlehamster 01:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sadly, I think it's safe to say there's no official citation about this what so ever. I've been looking for it since I first saw the Quafe wiki page some weeks ago and it said it tasted somewhat like Sprite(?). Anyways, browsed the whole Egils.is and there's nothing about any Quafe,, but yeah many icelanders claim it tastes just like Orka, including those rabbling in Icelandic in the links above. Personally I've never tasted Quafe, although I've seen some empty bottles, both of Orka and Quafe and they looked 100% the same, also witnessed numerous people confirm it in person it's Orka. I got all that, but sorry I can't bring you any official source about it... But I did do one thing, something that I think nobody has actually done, I've asked Egils via e-mail about this, quite bluntly. The e-mail is a "Open Letter", If I'll get a positive response I guess that fully qualifies as a valid source. Untill then... --Gussi 23:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: It is likely that Quafe is in fact relabelled Orka but I would guess neiter CCP nor Egils would want to admit that officially. However it is definately not related to Sprite since Egils bottles Pepsi in Iceland and Sprite is owned by Coca Cola. --Sindri 10:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quafe

message: At this time I'd ask people not to update the PCU count under the Milestones section unless it follows a citeable announcement, either on a CCP page, or another reputable gaming news page (like the current one using Allakhazam news). I know we've seen the PCU go higher than the March 13th record. I see it regularly. But without a reputable citation, it's original research, which is verboten on wikipedia. Thanks. --Battlehamster 19:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peak Concurrent User (PCU) updates

message: Why no mention of those games, EVE is obviously an extension of these games also the work done by Justin Stedman (Carnaugh) from Advanced Powers Merchant Empires (AMPE) seems to have influenced Eve Online significantly.
* Probably because EVE Hasn't been compared to the games you mentioned anywhere before, Wikipedia is not a place to present your views or oppinions, it is a place to effectivly colate information from other sources in an encyclopedic style. Of couse if you know of somewhere on the web or in industry press where the comparisons have been made let us know on here and someone can work it into an article. Or even better be bold and edit it in yourself. -- Richard Slater (Talk to me!) 19:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Hi 199.126.255.194. You asked why we don't make comparisons with games that "EVE is obviously an extension of". Responses indicated we haven't done this because we don't have any reputable verifiable sources that have drawn such links or have made such comparisons. Thus our response is not a disagreement with or argument against the idea, but rather, an explanation of why you don't see it put forth in the article.  Without a reputable source, anything we put in would be speculation, or at best original research and thus not fit for Wikipedia (even if it were true!).  If you come across any reputable sources of information on the topic, feel free to link them here on the talk page, and we'll see how they can be worked into the article. Best regards. P.S., please sign your comments by entering -- followed by four tildes in a row. Thanks. --Battlehamster 04:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade Wars, Space Merchant, Merchant Empires? 

message: :The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was no support for the merge due to a lack of significant non-redundant content in race-specific pages and withdrawal of the proposal by the originator. --Battlehamster 01:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: It was suggested that the article on Quafe be merged with this article. I agreed since it didn't really have enough information about it to merit having it's own article. I managed to screw up the formatting somewhere with the images - I'll try to fix this, but since I've never worked with images on wikipedia I'd be much obliged if someone could help.--▫Bad▫harlick♠ 11:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged Quafe