Talk:Cassandra Cain

message: User:75.19.43.67 that started the "narrative hyperbole" discussion is now User:70.38.10.21, and he wishes to put in a statement such as "In Robin #152, Batman states that he believes Cassandra is mentally disturbed and seems to bare no remorse for her change" based on this scene: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/wikiscans/Robin152a.jpg http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/wikiscans/Robin152b.jpg
Don't get me wrong, I actually think there's plenty of evidence that she's being written as being plain loopy.  I just think it's a stretch to look at that scene and then essentially put into the article "Batman's response is that he thinks she's crazy".  The scene is mainly about him cheering Tim up, not talking about Cassandra.  Given that I think this user has an axe to grind against the character, I suspect he's trying to add this not because he feels it's a good addition to the article, but because he's looking for things he thinks will "hurt" this fictional character.D1Puck1T 09:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can believe it. Still, this sounds like kind of a user/vandal thing. Issue warnings—final ones, if you already have—and consider asking for Admin help. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree. While I am *NOT* a Cassandra/Batgirl fan, I actually believe this would give clout to the controversy argument SUPPORTING Cassandra. Prior to One Year Later, the relationship between Cain and Batman was so close the two seemed like blood relatives. For Bruce to completely wash his hands of her is unrealistic considering he has tolerated more from characters such as Catwoman, Huntress and Talia Al Ghul. It seems Batman would at least make an ATTEMPT to correct whatever has happened to her before dismissing her. If another image displaying Bruce's affection for Cass prior to OYL could be found i think it would make an interesting section in the article.Bookkeeperoftheoccult 01:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disturbing

message: Before an edit war breaks out, why is there not one on this characters page? What is the reasoning behind it? -- Majin Gojira 17:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, last time I checked, she wasn't in the the template. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say, whether or not she should be in the Batman Template should be dependent on where the character is taken from this point on.  If she becomes a regular again, so long as Barbara Gordon is on the Template, I can conceive of no reasonable argument why Cassandra Cain wouldn't be, either.AltonBrownFTW 08:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Batman Template

message: Well, it can now be said that a reason, of sorts, has been offered for Cassandra's behavior. Should we consider this a "case closed" and update/remove the "controversy" section? Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the controversy section should be removed, even if there is a resolve. The sheer amount, and manner of backlash for it is notable for the sake of the article. It is similar to the fan backlash of Tara's death on Buffy, though not as extreme. - Majin Gojira 02:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur, no reason to remove it at the moment.  Why would you?  The upset remains, so far as I can tell.AltonBrownFTW 08:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify my position.  I feel the section itself is about fan reaction to the character, -not- about the plot of the character, nor should the section be considered or treated as a platform for an agenda on any side of the 'issue.'  Instead, I think it's recognition that, lots of DC fans, and specifically, Batgirl fans were upset by the change.  That's relevant, for now, and probably will remain so for several months after a full resolution, depending on where the fans, and the creators, take it.AltonBrownFTW 08:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The reason? 

message: At this point I feel it is presumptive to conclude that all of Cass's behavior OYL are attributed to the drugging by Deathstroke.  Setting aside arguments that she may be injected with other materials other than that of Rose and/or Rose's own abilites to fight her father's chemical and Machivellian manipulation, mind control does not necessarily yield that she is not still innately evil.  Cassie could still be the killer leader of the League of Assassins and was brainwashed/drugged to pull her away from the group.  In short, until we see conclusively that she is not acting of her own fruition for EVERYTHING OYL, we shouldn't attribute Slade as the sole cause. 66.109.248.114
A fair point. I think the brainwashing explanation is implied in the issue at least. Deathstroke asks Robin "Why do you think Batgirl's been acting the way she has?" and talks about how if he gets his way, there will be other "changes like Batgirl". If he's not responsible for everything, it sounds like he wants Robin to think he is. But you're right, we don't have full proof of anything yet. Rajah1 21:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deathstroke Drugging

message: I'm editing Ghost (Dark Horse Comics), & came here to see how this page dealt with the Dark Horse-published 4-issue crossover between Cass & Elisa. And I don't even see a list of published appearances in which I could add the series! What do you want me to do? Ventifax 03:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I created the article for this series today and linked it to all appropriate articles.Bookkeeperoftheoccult 08:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''[[Ghost (Dark Horse Comics)|Ghost]]/Batgirl'' miniseries

message: I've been digging through whatever I can find of Cassandra, and finally located from what "The search for Slade and Cain" come from and put real-world context to it.  The same cannot be said for the other sections.  I'm making a jump in assuming that her past is revealed during her solo line.  Someone needs to fix "revelations," whether that be put it under the "Batgirl" section or title it wherever that fight comes from. hbdragon88 (talk) 07:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revelations 

message: Does anyone have any confirmation on whether Bruce managed to adopt her before the R.I.P. storyline? The new miniseries had him offering to do so but I don't know if he managed to do it before the events of that storyline.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.96.114.171 (talk) 12:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parentage 

message: What is the source for Cassandra being dyslexic and not illiterate? 86.171.182.242 (talk) 20:08, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one had a source and changed the mentions of dyslexia to illiterate. 81.159.206.126 (talk) 07:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dyslexia? 

message: Somone shoudl update the image as cassandra gave up being Batgirl. She no longer wears the costume. in fact she maybe going on as a different persona in Red Robin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.129.211.97 (talk) 01:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: MAIN IMAGE

message: I've read through Shadow of the Bat #83 and I can't find her given first appearance anywhere in that issue. Can anyone else please clarify whether or not this is valid?
:MrBlonde267 (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First appearance

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message: In Batman: Arkham Knight there is an answering machine in Bruce Wayne's office.  One of the messages is from a "Cassandra" mentioning how much fun she had when they hung out and their friend(s?) thinking Bruce was really cute.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:4E42:C2F0:F02E:8086:52F1:F8EB (talk) 10:07, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Video Game Appearance