Talk:Film score

message: Isn't the famous film score of Don Davis for the movie The Matrix orchestral? On his own wikipedia article it says he is a conductor and orchestrator. And I don't know much about music, but it all sounds very orchestral to me. In this article he is on the non-orchestral list. Xilliah (talk) 08:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don Davis 

message: It could be argued (rather strenuously and with complete success, actually) that Jerry Goldsmith is not as obscure as the author of the article believes. There are other problems here and there but, in general, the whole thing can be re-written by someone with the time and inclination to. Gingermint (talk) 05:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up

message: I suggest the "Notable film score composers include" section be moved to its own page, something like List of notable film score composers. --Jūzeris ⇐ feedback appreciated 15:40, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Or, more appropriately, be merged into List of soundtrack composers. --Jūzeris ⇐ feedback appreciated 07:19, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "List of" 

message: I've put together a List of imaginary soundtracks. feedback and additions welcome. The external link cited was used for a lot of the titles, as well as my personal collection. 
I'm not sure if this is a legitimate 'musical genre' or not, hence created it in my userspace. It needs a more comprehensive intro/discussion before i'm comfortable entering it into wikipedia-proper. --Quiddity 21:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of imaginary soundtracks 

message: Why are some of the composers bolded? Nationalparks 14:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Theoretically, they're the most notable/famous composers of film scores. -Quiddity 19:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I guessed.  I removed all of that bolding, as per WP:NPOV. Nationalparks 20:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolding 

message: * won at least 1 major industry award
--> but which major industry award? There are many major cinema industry awards for film scoring in many countries (perhaps one or two notable composers from distinct regions of the world could be selected)? AppleJuggler 07:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other movies we saw where: Tomas Crown affair (the old one and new one)(study: music songs), the good old Hanibal Lector, (horror films)... So in summary... we need to think about the type of film and the musical aspect. Vertigo was an interesting movie. "The truck from..." (forget the name)... etc. --CyclePat 04:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: suggested criteria

message: Dimitri Shostakovitch, The Gadfly, Five Days, Five Nights (his Jazz Suite 2 included the well-known Waltz II)
Actually, Shostakovitch did several soundtracks, but they were not for terribly good films. We know the music but not the movies. Because he was a great composer one is tempted to list him, but one could argue that as he film composer he's fairly obscure. Gingermint (talk) 05:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposeded Inclusions

message: Shouldn't there be a section on the use of classical music in movies on this page? Or does this already exist elsewhere?Lbark 20:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Something more than Film score#Orchestral soundtracks? --Quiddity 18:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical music 

message: as an entirely ignorant and casual observer the second sentence (starting 'the term film score is frequently synonymous...') doesn't really pin down the difference between a score and a soundtrack. does the involvement of 'songs' render it a soundtrack not a film score? or is the distinction ambiguous?
sorry my first contribution: not at all constructive!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.76.86 (talk) 23:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  second sentence 

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message: Should this article be merged with Television score and then moved/changed to Film and television score? Best O Fortuna (talk) 04:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. --FilmFan69 (talk) 14:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PAGE NAME: Film and television score 

message: Someone should add play button for Chariots of fire to this article, I don't know how to do it. But it's such a great song. Kri (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chariots of fire 

message: I added a link to my website, Movie Music UK () in the links page at the bottom of the article. While I acknowledge that me doing so is, technically, a violation of WP:COI, I think the addition is fairly uncontroversial. Nevertheless, I would be grateful if another experienced editor would mind taking a quick look at the site and approving its addition. Many thanks. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie Music UK 

message: To my knowledge, the statement " virtually all music created for music libraries is done on a work for hire basis" may be incorrect.  I only have some experience with seeing the terms of a few libraries, but the ones I have seen so far have terms more amenable to the composer (but no upfront payment).  It may be that the majority of libraries, or the most used ones, are "work for hire," but this should be researched.  At the very least, it seems like an overly broad statement.--Newbis (talk) 06:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Item  tagged.--Kudpung (talk) 01:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production music - libraries 

message: This article has been tagged for a long  time as needing  a major clean up,  with  little improvement. I've had a go, according to MOS,  but  as I lack  the subject  knowledge I've placed inline tags to flag  some of the many  specific areas that  require improving  by  a film  score expert. I  know this makes the article look  untidy, but  attention  now needs to be drawn to these items.--Kudpung (talk) 01:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just completed my university thesis on film scoring, so I'm hoping to tackle some of this, however I'm new to wikipedia so I will have to get my sea legs a little bit before I dive in for real. I made some edits to the history section as it was severely lacking and is still very disorganized for such a prominent page. Samthetoad (talk) 04:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up 

message: The article needs as noted a complete rewrite that is informed and historically accurate, not recentist as much of this is. To the point here - the  composer list is entirely out of hand. I earlier removed the word "notable" from the section heading because no rationale was - or could be - provided for the names on the list that was not POV. Prior to this edit, it was a random list of composers that some editor or other liked - no objectivity, no absolute comprehensiveness, no NPOV. I have substituted for that list the Wikipedia list of Academy Award winners year by year for film score. That at least IS NPOV, regardless of what one thinks of the award. I deleted the section on soundtracks because there was no rationale at all for including any of those scores in any kind of list. Any re-introduction of any list to this article must adhere to the NPOV policy and offer substantiation and rationale. No time at the moment - but the ax falls on the non-orchestral soundtrack next.  Sensei48 (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So you just basically arbitrarily decided to remove links to dozens and dozens of some of film music's greatest practictioners, just because they never won a Best Score Oscar? Ennio Morricone, David Raksin, Jerry Fielding, Alex North, Jerry Fielding, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, modern guys like Alexandre Desplat, Danny Elfman, Thomas Newman... but yet marginal guys like Santaolalla, Tan Dun, Herbie Hancock, Cong Su, whose contribution to film music was marginal at best, get a mention because they were lucky enough to be hot for a year? Talk about a wrong-headed move... --JonBroxton (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No. I removed an excessively long, unvetted, unjustified, unsourced, indiscriminately expanded POV list. I replaced it with an NPOV list grounded in fact. I have no especially high regard for the AA winners, but until an editor or editors can come up with an NPOV rationale for including any composer's name on any kind of list, it's as close to "notable" as you're going to get. And you talk about marginal? Did you even bother to look at the list I replaced? Half the names there re-defined the concepts of "marginal" and "obscure." Sensei48 (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. I wrote it, based on my almost 20 years of experience as a film music journalist. I'll have a go at something more inclusive and grounded in NPOV later tonight. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

text: You may have written the original list, the much shorter one that existed a couple of years ago - and the names on that list would have been virtually impossible to argue with from any point of view or rationale. But you must then have seen how wildly out of control the list had veered - it had become a matter of editors adding virtually any composer whom they liked, regardless of distinction or notability. The issue was clearly the lack of rationale. If you can come up with an inclusive one, I'd be delighted to see it implemented and replace the AA list. Sensei48 (talk) 23:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 1/23/11 - No POV 

message: I've trimmed these a bit... Most, if not all, of the the sites linked are notable, but don't have Wikipedia articles. It'd be nice to see Wikipedia articles started for these, starting with the most notable, if anyone cares to do the work. Yworo (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: O'k. But what about pieces that are part of the scene itself? Is it a different type than score? Or does score mean not only background but also those integral sound parts of the action sequence? If I'm not clear yet: there is music which is used in or composed for a film - which music is not a background heard only by watchers of the film but that one which is performed within the story itself - regardless of the watchers. It is obviously not background but inseparable and integral withing the story sequence itself.Examples? 1) When two characters talk to each other in a silent meadow and there's performed some "character theme" or piece of music representing the mood of the scene, it is background. 2) Otherwise, when it is a ball or some concert taking place during the sequence of the film, there's played some music (which may be purposely written or adopted) which is inseparable from the scene of the plot itself - and it is not background...So, does this article (or should it) encompass this other type which is not background or is there any other article on this other type of film music on Wikipedia? (In the first case we should elide what is now written in the first line of the lede here.) Josh, linguist (talk) 09:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "background music" 

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message: I don't follow, what's needle dropped?  88.108.250.158 (talk) 12:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "needle dropped"? hyperlinks to "Diegesis" 

message: I see people have been worried about the poor state of this article from at least 2010, and it's been correctly tagged as needing citations (i.e., it's WP:OR) since 2013: its 10th anniversary of triumphant uncitedness is in July 2023, coming up shortly. I've trimmed a little of the most egregious listcruft, but actually the whole thing needs sourcing, rewriting, or chopping. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:08, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagged for nearly 10 years for lacking sources ... 

message: I dunno if this is a big deal but the image is not a film score. It's either a television or web production score, given it's from an episode of Adam Ruins Everything.--Amelia-the-comic-geek (talk) 02:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image misidentification 

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