Talk:West Azerbaijan province/Archive 2

message: Judging from Diyako's talk page, there seems to be a proposed solution. If there is an agreement, a request can be made at WP:RFPP, where other admins can look and comment on it. --Wikiacc (talk) 23:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution?

message: A significant event, indeed. All detail should be in the relevant article. I have therefore shortened the paragraph significantly. I woudl suggest that the second bit (about fighting between 1979-1990) warrants also its own article and should not expanded upon here . Refdoc 00:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, this is why I did not expand them more than one paragraph.
Diyako Talk + 00:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republic of Mahabad 

message: The last paragraph in the history section has a problem. It misquotes its source:
#It says "Kurds" whereas the cited source says "Kurdish guerillas". That's a big difference.
#The last sentence of the paragraph is also misquoting the last sentence of the cited source.--Zereshk 00:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to step in only because Diyako would not cease reverting Dr Hamed and TimBits. There are also 2 other admins involved on this page.--Zereshk 01:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Other problems

message: I have cleaned up a lot of the style, repeated sentences etc. I also think currently there is little   worthy of dispute left or rather all disputes are described. I will therefore remove the factual accuracy disclaimer. WRT the ethnic distribution map - I would suggest that anyone who comes up with a suitable map should put it up first here on the talk pages to avoid a new edit war. The criteria for a new map are clear, but I repeat them:
* covering the province only rather than whole of Iran, 
* clear demarkation of province border
* some distinction between country side and townships seems to be necessary
* my suggestion is to not have any monocoloured "Kurdish" or Turkish" areas, but to have "stripey" bits for mixed settled areas - without the map making any exact assertions about percentages. In this way we can keep the dispute in the text where it is a lot easier to explain. Refdoc 13:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Zereshk, I do not mean the government can (or dare) say the Kurds are the only main group. They say the Kurds and the Turks together are main groups.
Diyako Talk + 19:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The sentence in the article is clear. Change it.--Zereshk 19:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and changed it.--Zereshk 20:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy 

message: One version please. Too many spellings which are all proonounced more or less alike, but look decidedly confused. Refdoc 13:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of Urmia/Orooomiyeh/Urumiyeh etc 

message: This is very good and the pictures are absolutely excellent. Refdoc 07:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: latest revision 

message: This is a stupid game, and the lie simply wont fly. Urmia is not "Kurdish-Turkish". The same for many Azari cities that have been presented as "Kurdish". That is a comic blatant fabrication.
Please do not remove the tag until the matter is resolved.
You cannot hope to achieve anything by "downplaying" the Azeri majority.--Zereshk 22:44, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: West Azarbaijan is not Kurdish

message: The demographic section is verified and the  related source has been cited. The tagg must be removed.
Diyako Talk + 12:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Zereshk
The  cited source is not only about Salmas. about Khoy, Urmia Maku.. etc and the source of the ethnicity of table is this one. source of the population is gazetter. So there is no problem about second paragragh and the table.
Diyako Talk + 13:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but it doesnt say anywhere in it about percentages and numbers compared to Turks. It only says so and so Kurdish tribe lives there. That's not conclusive. Is it now?--Zereshk 13:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why you ask me to accept your sources? My answer is clear and does not need your question or putting taggs, "If your sources like all of my sources are credible so they are accepted otherwise wikipedia cannot accept biased sources. So do not put unverified tagg for no acceptable reason (It's not a game); and Do not put protected tagg because there are many people who want to edit the article and add new materials. (Respect others also).
Diyako Talk + 13:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Kurds in Northern parts of the province

message: Request mediation for article West Azerbaijan. User:Zereshk keeps putting unverified (+ protected) tagg for no acceptable reason regarding the Kurds in Northern part of the province, despite of numerous credible sources. Thanks you
Diyako Talk + 02:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The [[Kurds]] in [[West Azerbaijan]] Province of [[Iran]]