Talk:Parent–teacher association

message: Where should this article go? It's got information about specific PTA organizations in the UK, US and elsewhere but it also discussing the generic concept of a Parent Teach [Student] Association or Organization. That's a pretty broad topic.
Should the National PTA organization in the US be moved to it's own page? Not much to include there at present.
Rtphokie 16:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it might be best to create a separate section in the present article for the United States and move all the US and PTO information into this section. It's somewhat misleading to have a section on PTOS when this term is only used in the US and the whole section is specific to the US.Dahliarose 18:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Convo

message: Are there other meanings for the acronym PTA? I once saw some grafitti that said "Smash the PTA". I found it hard to believe someone was so much against a Parent-Teacher Association. 87.112.4.3 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other meanings

message: I believe PTO and PTA should have their own separate entries. The PTA is a national (U.S.A.) level organization which uses local school & state dues to support its national office for national level political lobby, the NPTA has been closely aligned with the National Education Association (teachers union). PTO's are local school level organizations set-up for that particular school to support parent-teacher projects and stay out of national level politics. More and more PTA's are being dis-established in order to establish local controlled and funded PTO's. There is great deal of confusion about PTO's vs PTA's, separating the entries would insure objective content for both.
Yes id like to say something on the P.T.A. See when i was in school the pta was made up of a bunch of goody good's mom's and they was only there for there children in other words to kiss a**... because most of them worked for the school as it was they where teachers aids or so they clamed mostly it was part of a bigger spy ring to keep an eye on there kids making sure that he or she got the grades they needed while at the same time kepping all the other students inline i could see why some one would say smash the PTA.and that and you never hardly seen those members give any money but wanted to gripe if no one else cared about the school. As far as the front page said about being close to the teachers union id agree.plus as far as this PTO i know here they seem to work as one more often than that the PTO doesnt even exist! Also it sounds as if this article was typed by a teacher or PTA member!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodgermiller (talk • contribs) 06:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate Entries

message: This article has no historical information about the origins of the 110-year-old PTA, which has been influential all around the world. Nor is the item critical. As a start, I've added a sentence from the messy timeline found within the association's website, but much more from all points of view is needed. CallMeHenry (talk) 13:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background needed 

message: This article only mentions PTA in the U.S.A. (although it began in the U.S.), ignoring PTAs in other countries, such as Japan and Britain. Hope someone can information about PTAs in these countries to the article. I've put the  and  to address the issue. --RekishiEJ (talk) 08:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we have PTAs in the UK (with similar meaning, the acronym again standing for Parent-Teacher Association); but I don't know of any WP:RS so am reluctant to add info. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: USA-centric

message: I dont see any reason to disapprove of the references to popular culture, calling it "trivia".
What i was looking for was a translation af the title "Harper Valley P.T.A", and I got got my question fully answered. Jens, Denmark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.82.218.206 (talk) 09:35, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular culture/Trivia

message: the text of much of this article appears to be ripped directly from http://www.pta.org, clean up anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.43.116 (talk) 21:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ripped text

message: I searched for "parents evenings" and got redirected to this almost entirely irrelanvent topic about some group in the USA. Possibly an error that it redirects here? 86.13.218.163 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: irrelanvent redirect

message: I have added this section because I wrote an article about a school in London Ashmount and I wanted to have a wiki link from that article's reference to a PTA existing at that school; and as its a UK school, well I went ahead and wrote that section so that I could link to it.
Daithidebarra (talk) 22:34, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Section on UK added

message: I do not see the need for two articles for the same thing. EdwinHJ | Talk 19:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge:This is not a US-specific topic; the "Parent-Teacher Associations" in other countries are in some cases more similar to the US PTOs, making these terms indistinguishable internationally. So on the basis of WP:WORLDVIEW the merge is appropriate as meaning of the terms are indistinguishable. I agree with Daithidebarra that the PTO could be a separate section in a US section where the distinction between the organizations in the US context can be explained. Perhaps the major section subheadings could be changed to something like "United States" rather than "PTAs in the United States" in order to facilitate the merge. I note the trademark argument; a search at http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/ shows that that is a US (rather than worldwide) trademark. Klbrain (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  merger with Parent Teacher Organization 

message: I wanted to clarify my revision notes for the merge to 'Infobox_Organization' - The Infobox_Union template is specifically intended for Trade Unions. As the template fields do not match verbatim an attempt was made to select equivalent fields, but should be double checked for appropriateness by someone familiar with the organization. Strangerpete (talk) 15:27, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from Infobox_Union to Infobox_Organization 

message: I'm confused by the "members" section, since this article isn't about a particular organization, but about PTAs/PTOs in general. What entity are the listed members members of? Marquardtika (talk) 00:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members section 

message: Wow. This is heavily PTA (tm) biased. That's what we get for merging an article for trademarked organization that charges to use its name with an article for a general concept.
They should be spit up again, of course. Or  better yet, just delete all the pro-PTA(tm) stuff to give it the neutral POV that's appropriate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.119.197.4 (talk) 19:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Um ... Biased? 

message: Although the first paragraph refers to "parent–teacher association/organization, parent-teacher-friend association, and parent–teacher–student association", the article apparently uses the acronym PTA as a generic term. This confuses the subject with the National Parent Teacher Association of the United States. Further, there are at least five other terms, in my experience, for groups which involved parents in education: 
Home and school association, 
Parents and citizens' associations, 
Mother Teacher Associations, 
Parent Teacher Council, 
Parent Advisory Council.
Most, if not all, information in the US section is about the P.T.A. rather than the general subject. In my opinion, details such as the history of the P.T.A. and the magazine it publishes don't belong in this article at all. Following that, the article confusingly talks about PTOs. Then the US section closes with a list of notable members. I don't know whether that means members of the P.T.A. or members of a "PTO" in general. 
Only the section about India even approaches such detail. There is no information about parent involvement in education in many other countries, including Nigeria, Canada, South Africa, and the European Union. Hence, the article is unbalanced, if not actually US-centric.
I think the article should be split. All the details about the P.T.A. of the US belong in an article entitled National Congress of Parents and Teachers (United States). More general information about parent involvement in education in the United States and other countries should have an unambiguous title. I suggest "Parent Involvement in Education".  The generic term, then, could be "PIE groups".
Since I have no children, no involvement in educating them, and more than enough to keep me busy, I can only post my opinion and suggestions. Humpster (talk) 03:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: PS I noticed that the illustration at the top of the article is specifically about the P.T.A. of the United States. That makes it more US-centric. Humpster (talk) 03:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging was a mistake; the title should not be PTS