Talk:Low-alcohol beer

message: Employing the word "intoxicating" for alcohol abuse is extreme and is a US bias. In the rest of the modern world where there is no history of prohibitionism you will not employ a word with such a negative connotation. In wikipedia we should not employ "intoxicated" but "drunk" or "inebriate" which are more neutral.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.33.132 (talk) 04:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In the UK licensees are "licensed to sell by retail intoxicating liquor...". I would say the word "intoxicating", which after all only means "poisonous", is more neutral than "drunk" or "inebriate". Si Trew (talk) 10:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: US/prohibitionism bias

message: Case in point: Is this comparable with the swedish lättöl ("lightbeer", less than 2.25%)?. Should it link to that article as the swedish version?
Non-alcohlic beer is beer that has almost no alcohol at all. 2.25% isn't a lot of alcohol IMO, but it's certainly too much to be called non-alcoholic (most N/A beers have about as much alcohol as fruit juice).
In Iceland, 2.25% is regarded as alcohol-free, and was produced and sold as such throughout the prohibition years (1915-1989). Although many restrictions are on the sale of alcohol, any minor can buy 2.25% beer at any cornerstore.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.69.56 (talk) 01:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking to articles in other languages by other countries defenitions 

message: Light beer is obviously something different, it may contain upto something like 3.5% abv. Merge should be turned back. – Ilse@ 00:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The three most popular light beers in the U.S. (Bud Light, Miller Lite, and Coors Light) are 4.2% alcohol, and really don't have anything to do with the concept "Low alcohol beer". Either "light beer" or "American-style light beer" need to be a separate page. RustavoTalk/Contribs 01:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light beer 

message: I propose creating separate articles for non-alcoholic beer (0-0.5% abv) and low-alcoholic beer.  First of all, they're not really the same thing, and I think that lumping them together is inconsistent with the level of detail that wikipedia presents on most topics.  Also, there are different laws governing their sale and consumption in most countries, and they also have a fairly different history, culture associated with them.  (In particular, with most non-alcoholic beer being more modern).  I think there's enough information in this article that it could easily be split into two.  What do others think?  Cazort 21:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm interested in such primary because of level of alcohol in it (i.e. for low-alcoholic beer we can say that it contains alcohol and non-alcoholic not). --Čikić Dragan (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate Articles Warranted 

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message: Used to be that Florida mandated that all beer sold in the state be 3.2. I recall on spring break in the early 90s getting a low buzz from drinking a 12 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon in 90 min. while wearing the carpet bald from going to the toilet. Nowadays you can get beer like anyplace else though. Anyone know when the law changed? I'll find out myself when I get the chance... Ellsworth (talk) 07:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florida 

message: I'm interested in making list of worlds contemporary alcohol-free beers (not more than 0.05% ABV). Is anyone else? --Čikić Dragan (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of alcohol-free beers 

message: Can we get a list of countries and how legal it is for minors to drink it? 114.77.6.119 (talk) 09:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's at Legal drinking age. Si Trew (talk) 10:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality & underage drinking 

message: Should we split the definitions (which are currently mention the US, UK and Europe) out of the lead and into its own "Definitions" section (possibly with subsections)? Si Trew (talk) 10:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead and definitions 

message: There isn't a single word about the dealcoholisation process in the production of low-alcohol beers (assuming to be always necessary). This piece of information would be best suited in an encyclopedic article like this and more focused than the legal constraints to its consumption in different countries. Heathmoor (talk) 16:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dealcoholisation process

message: Seeing as I'm an IP user and every edit I make is watched like a fly on a pile of dung, I'm going to just let you guys know that I added a line about Texas allowing minors to buy non-alcoholic beer. There's no sources for the other two states, but apparently mine got reverted for no source but the other two were not removed. It's back up, though, just so you guys know. 71.51.50.38 (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Errr does anyone know of any other states that allow for underage consumption/purchase of non-alcoholic beer? 71.51.50.38 (talk) 23:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: In the UK, drinks less than 0.5% ABV [I think] are not classed as alcoholic beverages and so anyone can by them, no matter what their contents. (They don't have to declare how much alcohol they have in them below that amount, either). Oddly, I find some cook-in sauces in the local supermarket have a significant amount of white or red wine such that in my view they are alcoholic, yet it seems anyone can buy them. e.g. one Chicken Tonight white wine sauce as a 14% ingredient, and assuming the wine was at 10% (fairly conservative) that would make it 1.4% in total. Si Trew (talk) 08:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added new line with source. 

message: Okay I've re-read the article but I think it puts too much emphasis on western countries. What about countries like Iran, Serbia, and Argentina? Those countries have worth to mention in the article, seeing as how Iran has laws prohibiting the use of alcohol. Do people really think that they do not drink? 71.51.50.38 (talk) 23:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're more than welcome to introduce what you're talking about into the article; provided you simultaneously also add reliable sources to substantiate the material.  cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 00:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Focus change in article? 

message: Reference number 20 is not working. I would've fixed by myself but I'm not very good with citation. Modi mode (talk) 13:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link 

message: "No alcohol or lack of milk"  
Makes no sense.  Probable vandalism, but if not, needs explantation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdnctx (talk • contribs) 19:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probable vandalism 

message: Why does this section exist? Is this an essay? All it really does it repeat the preceding section "How low-alcohol beer is made" all the while adding new facts not presented in the entire article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.85.71.20 (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conclusion section 

message: Given the flavour impact boiling finished beer has, removing alcohol using RO is more common. Shouldn't this also be in the section about no alcohol production? 182.239.223.159 (talk) 10:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  RO Alcohol removal? 

message: Does low-alcohol beer cause dehydration?--78.49.112.24 (talk) 13:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  dehydration? 

message: The biggest problem is that it's not actually a description of anything, it's a lot closer to a mixture of tips that suggest the writer was trying to summarize a few sets of instructions without really understanding key underlying concepts like boiling or why the boiling point would change with different elevations.  It should give outsiders a much better idea of things like the equipment used, who discovered/popularized the process, how and why it tastes or looks different from 'normal' beer, and so forth -- the pasteurization article is a great example of what to aim for. —xyzzy 08:11, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-alcoholic section needs major work 

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message: I was pretty sure that the beer 'provided' by the U.S. government/military to military personnel during WWII and in Korea was called "near beer" and was 3.2-3.5%.
Am curious as to why no mention of this, especially in the "Near beer" section. 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 06:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Near beer, WWII, and the Korean War 

message: This section is written like an ad Stickywickham (talk) 22:54, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias - “Surreal Brewing” section reads like an ad 

message: In the last paragraph of the Production Process section, three abbreviations/acronyms are used that are not defined, and not mentioned anywhere else in the article:  RO, TTB, and NA.   The last one is not hard to guess means Non-Alcoholic, but that is still bad form.  The other two I have no idea what they are. DSZ~enwiki (talk) 18:09, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undefined abbreviations 

message: In the section "Pros and cons" it said: "...most doctors advise against drinking non-alcoholic beverages during pregnancy."
Due to the fact that only one reference was given, and only one of the authors of the paper referenced seems to be a doctor, I have changed it to, "One paper."  However, as the question may be important in practical terms, I would suggest it could perhaps do with attention from someone with real knowledge of the subject.
I would indeed actually query the advice itself, as it seems to be extreme overkill.  As far as I can see, advising women not to drink at all (as opposed to very moderately) during pregnancy is already for the sake of being very cautious - due to the seriousness of the consequence - rather than because a low intake is likely to do the unborn child any harm (if you look at the NHS website, it says that a woman should not worry unduly if she has been drinking before she found out she was pregnant because the actual risk is low - https://www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/drinking-alcohol-while-pregnant/). Extending the advice to avoid alcohol to alcohol-removed drinks, on the basis that they might contain more alcohol than they say, seems on the face of it to be over the top.  
I haven't a definite suggestion because it would depend entirely on what other sources said, what changes should be made.  If good value sources say other things, then that should probably be put alongside; if there is real medical consensus with regard to the avoid in pregnancy advice, that could do with being referenced and explained.  Truly informed choice is good.  :-)
FloweringOctopus (talk) 21:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Most doctors advise," but only one reference to one doctor?