Talk:Giant Pacific octopus

message: Did I miss where it shared the size of the great octopus?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:1200:5870:0:0:0:986 (talk) 16:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

message: Why is the USA highlighted? The species lives in numerous countries and throughout the North Pacific. Please include a map that doesn't single out one country to the exclusion of others.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.68.74.219 (talk) 03:58, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map with USA highlighted 

message: I have repeatedly edited this page, someone keeps saying the Giant Pafici Octopus is not the largest octopus.  That is not true, it clearly is the largest octopus, I've reverted this a couple of times and I also reverted the seven armed octopus article.  On the discussion page for that article I posted a half dozen links backing up my claim that the Giant Pacific Octopus is the largest, I will now insert them here.  TotallyTempo 03:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cited an article written by Dr. Steve O'Shea, one of the foremost experts on cephalopods, published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. You have linked to a number of websites that regurgitate the same *questionable* claims for which there is *no evidence*. I have made it clear in the introduction that the North Pacific Giant Octopus is the second largest based on scientific records. Mgiganteus1 08:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Big

message: To call an estimate of 272 kg "highly questionable" is an understatement.  "absurd, given our knowledge of the species" is more like it.  That would make it a legitimate rival to the giant and colossal squids.
Is the referece provided based on an actual weighing, or an estimation based on a sighting?  Because if it is the latter (or if it is at all ambiguous about it), I suggest we don't include this "big fish" story. - Atarr 01:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not absurd, considering the nature of octopus growth.  Octopuses demonstrate indeterminate growth, which begins exponentially and become logarithmic in the final stages of life.   This means that a small change in growth conditions early in life can produce very large changes in the final weight of the animal.  This is a well documented phenomenon in octopuses.  For instance, O. rubescens normally only attains a grown weight of 100g, but it is not unheard of to observe 400-500g individuals.  Considering giant Pacific octopuses regularly attain a final mass of around 40kg, it would almost be expected that there would be some outliers weighing upwards of 150kg.  Well, twice individuals have been caught and weighed by fisherman of close to 180kg, one in California and one in Port Hardy, BC (the CA individual was photographed.)  Neither of these weights were overseen by a scientist, but seem reasonably credible and are frequently cited by GPO biologists.  Personally, a 272kg animal does seem quite a bit large, but honestly, its not impossible nor absurd.  It is exactly as the article puts it: “Highly questionable”. Taollan82 05:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  272 kilos?? 

message: "Among other things, some species of octopus have been reported to unscrew jar lids to retrieve food and mimic the behaviors of other octopuses ."
Is it just me, or does it seem like this sentence should not be in the section about the intelligence of the North Pacific Giant Octopus? It is speaking not of the North Pacific Giant Octopus, but of other octopus species. If this sentence should be anywhere, it should be in the article on cephalopod intelligence. Am I right?--01:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misplaced sentence 

message: I propose that this article be officially renamed to "Giant Pacific Octopus"  Every reference in the references section uses this common name, Mark Norman in Cephalopods: A world guide uses this name, tolweb.org uses this name.  Giant Pacific Octopus is ubiquitously used, including being the name used nearly exclusively in scientific literature, while North Pacific Giant Octopus is virtually never used.  In fact the only place I know it was ever used other than this wikipedia page is cephbase, which now is inaccessible and has been for a while.  To add insult to injury, "giant pacific octopus" redirects to the genus page.  This is somewhat ridiculous.  
Honestly, if I had my way, all wikiproject ceph articles should use scientific names as the primary article names, but I doubt I would be able to stem the current momentum.  Cephs aren't birds for which nearly everyone knows common names and for which even most scientific articles use primarily the common names. Taollan82 (talk) 07:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Common Name

message: Is this true? The entteroctopus dofleini martini thing?  My friend is doing a roject and needs to know.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remey007 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. It is presumably formed from the personal name Martin; nothing to do with the cocktail. :-) mgiganteus1 (talk) 00:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  UM.....Martini? 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Comment. I think a better solution would be to reverse the recent undiscussed move, returning the title to Enteroctopus dofleini. Linnaean binomials are used for the titles of almost all the articles that appear in :Category:Octopodidae, and see the 2011 move discussion immediately above this section. Deor (talk) 22:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The bulk of section 7 is the bulk of the article text. This is not necessarily problematic. However, most of the text of section 7 is speculative and use questionable sources. (e.g. the link for PCBs use Wikipedia as the source. Standard practice when citing sources is to NOT use a prior article that "you" are considered the author of, in this case "you" means Wikipedia, regardless of contributor. This is to prevent the appearance of bias/ the appearance of just making things up...) These problems are endemic through the section. Please don't construe this as somehow politically motivated. I agree that climate change is probably going to kill this species off. I am only taking issue with the low quality of the section.
75.73.76.99 (talk) 04:43, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section 7: Please remove the speculative text and clean up the references 

message: ...and it's not as if the encyclopedia didn't have entries for which this information is specific, is it?
178.238.167.23 (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete sections of the article fail to provide information specific to the entry 

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message: PCB and heavy metal accumulation in the octopus is summarized in the article as being a result of climate change, which is inaccurate.  Toxins should be separately grouped as a threat, as, like much terribly destructive pollution, it is occurring and impacting the ecosystem independent of the emissions that are driving climate change. Ogbn (talk) 15:52, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxins not directly related to climate change 

message: Apart from the picture captions, there is absolutely nothing here in terms of description. Arminden (talk) 10:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description: none 

message: The boys and girls club in the airport is bad 2404:4404:1001:5800:ADBC:28:3209:F06E (talk) 02:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clubs 

message: Super mario 46.252.44.145 (talk) 16:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home 

message: The last half of the article becomes a lecture on climate change and has only a tangential connection to the octopus itself. Such a lecture could be attached to a description of pretty much every species in the ocean. I have no argument with the claims, I just don't think that most of them belong in this article. RobotBoy66 (talk) 08:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate Change 

message: — Assignment last updated by Paskowsw (talk) 17:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Deep-Sea Biology

message: a) How many times do you need to be told that edit warring plus arguing in edit summaries is a crap idea? b) Giant_Pacific_octopus#Size has actual sources as opposed to your vague assertions, so you'll have to do better. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Largest"