Talk:Turkish literature/Archive 1

message: N.B.: I am currently working hard to get this entire article fleshed out and, in fact, fully informed. I realize that, in doing so, it is going to go over the recommended limits for article size. However, once the article has been "completed" (I use quotes since, after all, what article in Wikipedia is ever really complete?), I intend to start reshaping it and redirecting detailed info to other pages as per the summary style guidelines; it will be much easier to make an attractive (and not too long!) page by subtracting after the article's "completion", rather than constantly revising each single section as the article is in process of being written. Thanks for your patience.
—Saposcat 14:30, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Note

message: The information in Turkish Folk Literature and Turkish_literature#Folk literature looks very unbalanced. Ideally the latter should be a summary of the first. At the moment Turkish Folk Literature is as substub and the section Turkish_literature#Folk literature is has more than a page-long of contents. --Donar Reiskoffer 10:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are, of course, absolutely right. I can chalk that up to the fact that I have yet to get around to managing/expanding on the subpages of the Turkish literature article. For the nonce, what I will do is simply copy/paste Turkish literature's Folk literature section into Turkish Folk Literature—rather inadequate, I know, but it should suffice as a stopgap until I can do further expansion. Thanks for pointing this out; I appreciate it. —Saposcat 10:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkish Folk Literature

message: I have begun the process of adding the Arabic script of Ottoman names, terms, etc. However, as I am a novice in using the script, if anyone is able to help out by adding Arabic script in the appropriate places (or correcting any mistakes I may have made), it would be greatly appreciated. —Saposcat 09:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have decided to use Arabic script only for terms (e.g. tenâsüb, tezâd), titles (e.g. Hüsn ü Aşk, Taaşuk-u Tal'at ve Fitnat), and group names (e.g. Jön Türkler, Genç Kalemler). There is such a plethora of personal names that it would create too much clutter to give them all Arabic script; instead, the person's individual pages will have the script (if applicable). —Saposcat 10:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Arabic script

message: The current first sentence is
*"Turkish literature refers to literature written in the Turkish language, either in its Ottoman variety—which was heavily influenced by Persian and Arabic and used a variant of the Arabic script—or in its more normative variety, such as that spoken in the Republic of Turkey today."
What does "normative variety" mean? Melchoir 00:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here, "normative" is used to mean basically, "standard". Ottoman Turkish was, in a sense, a very specialist variety of the Turkish language, and was not understood by the vast majority of Turkish speakers. Definition-wise, the word "normative" approximates better to the situation than the word "standard" (at least, as far as I understand the meanings and connotations of the two words), and that is why I used it here. —Saposcat 04:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Normative? 

message: Mehmet Akif Ersoy and Yahya Kemal Beyatlı are two of the greatest poets of Turkish literature. As a matter of fact they would be in the first 10 poets/authors that come to mind when Turksh Literature is in question. I wonder why noone had written anything about0 neither them nor their works; which include Kahraman Ordumuza...(a.k.a. İstiklal Marşı), Çanakkale Şiiri, Safahat (by Mehmet Akif); Rindlerin Hayatı, Rindlerin Akşamı, Rindlerin Ölümü, Eğil Dağlar, Kendi Gökkubbemiz (by Yahya Kemal).
:You're right (though not, perhaps, about the top 10 thing, since that's always going to be a highly subjective list which they may or may not make their way onto, depending on whom you talk to). Why not be bold and add them in in an appropriate place, with appropriate brief summary/discussion? —Saposcat 04:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mehmet Akif and Yahya Kemal missing?? 

message: I think this is one of the best Turkey-related articles in Wikipedia. I congratulate and thank everyone who were involved in editing it. Metb82 15:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congratulations 

message: According to :tr:Oktay Rifat Horozcu and :de:Oktay Rifat, his name is spelled with the Turkish dotted I. However, the article on the English Wikipedia (Oktay Rıfat) uses the dotless I. Which one is correct? Khoikhoi 08:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It uses the dotted i; it's definitely "Oktay Rifat". —Saposcat 09:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Khoikhoi 09:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rifat or Rıfat? 

message: You can also find some very nice 'treasures' of this library at http://libraries.theeuropeanlibrary.org/Turkey/treasures_en.xml 
Shall we include it here? Fleurstigter 16:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Refer to National Library of Turkey, Millî Kütüphane??

message: Why isn't she mentioned in the article? Is that because she isn't considered significant enough? She is one my favourite writers.  Tauphon 08:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of my favorites aren't mentioned in the article, either. However, she may well be significant enough in terms of contemporary literature, and I'd be happy to work her into the article if you give me a bit of time. —Saposcat 10:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elif Shafak 

message: The article is good but not objective at it is learly seen that writers from religious backgrounds have been excluded. Like
Necip Fazıl Kısakürek, a poet well-known by the Turkish nation. There are also the writers from the Mavera Magazine; Cahit Zarifoğlu, Rasim Özdenören are the two of the seven main writers who are also considered great witers as you could see Cahit Zarifoğlu's poems written in the books provided for students to learn about Turkish literature. There are many others aswell.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.213.49.90 (talk) 19:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective Writing 

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message: I have read that the first book in "Turkish" language was written in 1890. It was in a text of the UNESCO to laud Atatürk in 1981 (p.12). I don't know how relative this work is, but I am open to discussions. Also the Turkish language went through a profound revolution in the years after the foundation of Turkey. Sufi poets and Bektashi writers from 15th to 17th century just didn't speak Turkish as it is known today, not possible. Should we maybe split the article in Turkic literature, Osmanic/Ottoman Literature and Turkish literature? Or do you have other ideas? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Any comments, suggestions? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 01:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of the Article? 

message: I felt article Islamic_literature is in bit of neglect so I added my note on talk page there, requesting to take note of Talk:Islamic_literature#Article_review. If possible requesting copy edit support. Suggestions for suitable reference sources at  Talk:Islamic_literature is also welcome. 
Posting message here too for neutrality sake
Thanks and greetings
Bookku (talk) 08:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Requesting wider attention

message: The article is clearly focused on Turkey, or, at least, in "oghuz turk",  but its confusing when not stated so, the mention of Orhan inscriptions or Uyghur literature may mislead someone to think the article is about all Turkic literature. 201.22.168.192 (talk) 20:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading introduction