Talk:Tetris Attack

message: I think that Panel De Pon should have a separate page from this, as it's a completely different version of Tetris Attack, and this page has barely any information on that version at all. PsychoJosh 13:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree Panel De Pon should have its own page.  Someone has just added one describing all of the different versions of the game (as of May 31/06).  Maybe, though, it could be dressed up a little more, and direct people to the Tetris Attack page for more detail on game play, etc.  I favour putting most of the info on game play here rather than on the Panel De Pon page because most English players know the game by one of its North American titles.  On Japan's Wikipedia, most of the content should be on the "Paneru De Pon" page (assuming that's what Japanese people call it!... see above...)
*I'd like to see PdP get it's own page too for reasons listed above 199.126.137.209 20:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Panel de pon

message: Is all this gender-bias talk about Panel de Pon and TA and "looking half as feminine" and such necessary?  Furthermore, and more importantly, is it NPOV?  --Ed Cormany 05:07, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Gender

message: This section seems like a big ol' advertisement.  Anyone else think so? 199.126.137.209 08:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree.  None of the links there point to anything that is OFFICIALLY related to Tetris Attack.  They are fan versions, and any comments about their quality aside, they are not official works by Nintendo or any of its partners. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other implementations

message: I'm going to formally propose that we re-split this article into separate articles about Panel de Pon and Tetris Attack.  While they are basically the same game with different graphics, each one is notable in its own right, and the number of plot and graphical differences between the two releases are enough to warrant an entire comparison section.  As I mentioned above, I think having the two articles merged under Tetris Attack puts undue weight on the American release.  (I should note that I think this is one notable exception to the general rule that very similar games on similar platforms should be merged.) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 17:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Propose re-splitting PdP and TA into separate articles

message: I've reverted a few unsourced edits recently that claim that Kirby's stone attack causes him to take on the shape of one of Lip's garbage blocks - in other words, that the Kirby games reference Panel de Pon.  The most recent of these edits cited a screenshot from what looks to be Super Smash Bros. Melee, so I wanted to address this issue a little further.
A screenshot from SSBM is not a sufficient source for this assertion, for two reasons:
# SSBM departs from the original game series that its characters come from, giving those characters abilities and attacks that don't necessarily appear in the original series.  Kirby does indeed have a stone attack that features a face, and I agree that one of these attacks in SSBM looks just like a garbage block from PdP.  But if anything, that means that SSBM makes a reference to PdP this way, but not the Kirby series or the Kirby character himself.  (There is another documented reference in SSBM - Lip's Stick - so this may very well be valid.)
# Regardless of which game is the source of the reference, we need an official citation stating such a reference.  Otherwise, notations about the similarity between the two games constitutes Original Research.  That's the main reason I've been reverting these edits - the other reason being that in the main Kirby games, the stone move turns Kirby into a much more generic stone with a face, and the only similarity between that and the PdP garbage block is the general shape and the fact that there's a face on it.
Hope this helps clarify my reverts. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 03:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kirby's stone attack 

message: Maybe I'm just dumb, but why merge Panel De Pon with Tetris Attack? Just because they're basically the same game? Well, I also really hate the Tetris Attack version, but anyway... Telemachus Claudius Rhade 20:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And it appears the Japanese DID get Tetris Attack as well, on the SattaliteVision. I think it's time the article is split once again -- as it stands now, it's very badly structured and confusing. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 13:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and formally proposed the split. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 14:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that no more discussion has taken place on this topic, I'm going to go ahead and perform the split soon.  This is everyone's last chance to discuss this before I execute WP:BOLD. :) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead and do it! =) Telemachus Claudius Rhade 16:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought up a new discussion on WT:VG about this, since I couldn't find a good way to separate the articles without repeating a lot of stuff.  What do you think of the Series Article idea I posted in a section below this one? — KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh God... So I'm guessing you mean PDP isn't worthy of having its own article, is that it? Curse NoA! Telemachus Claudius Rhade 13:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Late reply, but as I said, I couldn't find a way to split the articles without either consolidating their common elements into the Series article and making stubs out of the rest of them, adding lots of fancruft to fill the articles (which is a no-no), or making them both read pretty much identically.  What we have here is a game with a solid engine that provides lots of gameplay, and the presentation is a pretty thin layer on top.  As seen in later games (like Planet Puzzle League), story elements are totally unnecessary for the game to stand on its own, but the presentation is important for the individual games.  So, where's the balance? — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The heck? 

message: Even though it appears as such, nowhere in the game does it actually say they're the daughters of the original cast.  I even checked the Japanese wiki on the subject, and it just says that gaming sources had only speculated of it being the case. 75.152.155.200 20:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Panel de Pon GC characters

message: I suggest moving this article to "Puzzle League". Tetris Attack is indeed the original title, but Puzzle League is the currently accepted title, due to later versions not being named something like "Dr. Mario & Tetris Attack", "Pokémon Tetris Attack" and "Planet Tetris Attack".  Otherwise, let's create an article about the Panel de Pon/Puzzle League series, and let this article discuss about the SNES title. - Parrothead1983 4:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There already is a series article, and I originally wanted to merge all the common gameplay elements into that article and create subsections for each individual game, so that we could describe the common points, highlight the unique points, show the games in their release order, and not give undue weight to any one of them.  Unfortunately, the consensus at that time seemed to be that the series article was unnecessary - I'd like to revisit that topic now, though. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 15:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Who on Earth is Bumpty? There are only the other 12 characters in my game... 70.44.147.242 00:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However, that is in the SNES version, he doesn't appear at all in the GB version. 75.111.59.25 (talk) 22:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Bumpty??

message: "Aside from several new tracks based on Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island..." Is this true? Which music specifically is based on Yoshi's Island? I was under the impression all the music was directly ported from Panel De Pon. Poobslag (talk) 01:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The title theme and Yoshi's theme are new tracks to the game, but virtually all the other tracks are ported from PdP.  The title theme of TA is remixed from Yoshi's Island, and the BGM that plays on Yoshi's stage is that character's "official" theme song - it's been used in other games featuring Yoshi as well. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 05:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Differences? 

message: Is it constructive to have a comprehensive list of characters here? Some articles have it (Puyo Puyo) but most articles don't (Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, Magical Drop, Puyo Puyo Sun, Meteos)... It doesn't seem like it helps the article. Poobslag (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really think so.  The characters don't figure into the game in any real form other than to contribute to the game's story.  They make a little more sense plot-wise in PdP, but in TA they're basically just there because they can be.  I'm in favor of keeping the list out of both games.  The plot section for each game should contain a brief mention of the principal characters (main char and bosses) and a general mention of the incidental characters (Lip's sisters/cousins/whatever they are, and Yoshi's friends), but we don't need a list of all the characters or how they map from one game to the other. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 02:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Characters? 

message: Okay, I've just finished splitting Panel de Pon out into its own article from this one.  It was a lot of work, but I think it'll have been worth it.  Both articles need more work, though.
Right now, both articles have the same "Newer Versions" section - this section needs to be tailored to each game's relevant information.  Also, if someone has more information on each game's specific releases and market info, that would be great - the infobox and information on each game's releases was all combined together in the original merged article, so I may not have split them apart correctly.
Finally, let's please remember to keep fancruft and listcruft out of these articles.  Please see the VGProj Article Guidelines for a run-down on what kinds of information are accepted by consensus and what are not.
Thanks for your patience, folks! — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split complete 

message: Shouldn't there be a section for the ports and games similar to this such as Pokémon Puzzle League, Tetris Attack/Puzzle Frenzy and so on?
--75.163.187.227 (talk) 03:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See Puzzle League (series). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ports/Similar Games 

message: Crack Attack! is an OpenGL puzzle game similar to the Super Nintendo classic game "Tetris Attack".
References:
* Crack Attack! - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site, Linuxlinks.com
* How to Install Crack Attack on OpenSUSE, Fedora and Debian, Linuxconcept.com
—  Ark25  (talk) 23:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Open source version 

message: The unaltered version of Panel de Pon will soon be released on Nintendo Switch Online, under that title in all regions. Furthermore, it appears that the name Tetris Attack will no longer be used by Nintendo in any context, due to The Tetris Company not wanting the game to be associated with their brand. I think a title change to Panel de Pon may be apropos, perhaps with Tetris Attack as a separate article. --90.227.30.140 (talk) 23:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This feels like original research to me. I don't think either a split or rename is needed or appropriate. They're both the same game, aside from an obvious name change and the fact Yoshi and Mario characters replace the fairies, and Tetris Attack is the common name for this anyways, so I think the article is fine as-is. Even if we were to split this article, Panel de Pon would need to establish notability by its own and I don't know if that would be possible. I oppose this split/rename proposal. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 23:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: What I said about The Tetris Company was in reference to the quote by Henk Rogers reliably sourced in the article. Anyway, rename or no, I think the lead section should put equal emphasis on both titles, now that the game will be internationally known by both titles. I'll make the relevant edit right away. --90.227.30.140 (talk) 00:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not. I've posted a discussion on the talk page for WikiProject Video games, and I'd like to reach consensus there before we do anything. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 00:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for a rename or split?