Talk:Nigel Gresley

message: I've added some more information, but I can't seem to edit the to-do list! Oh well Trampled 12:44, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Scratch that, it's updated it now. Hurrah Trampled 12:45, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: I've added some early biog details, taken from the 1912 Railway Year Book. I'm sure that one of my Railway Magazines has a much more updated version: I'll keep looking. There's the knighthood for a start Peter Shearan 06:27, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Biography

message: That phrase confuses me. Anyone have an idea what is meant? ++Lar: t/c 11:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It explains why he is not Scottish. MidlandLinda (talk) 21:17, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  He wasn't Scottish, no. His father's family had been in Netherseal, Derbyshire for many generations. His mother, Joanna Beatrice nee Wilson, was born in 1839 in Staffordshire. At the time of Nigel's birth (he was not called Nigel by family or friends -- since all Gresley boys were given Nigel as one of their forenames -- he was always called Tim), Joanna was 37 and had had four live children followed by one stillbirth or miscarriage. For her sixth pregnancy, at what would then be considered an advanced age, she was referred, according to a speech by Sir Nigel's grandson Tim Godfrey, to a gynaecologist or obstetrician in Edinburgh (the city being famed for its medical schools), which is why Nigel was born there. "The four earliest children of Rev. Nigel and Joanna Gresley were all born at Netherseal and had arrived at intervals of a year or two as was frequently the case in those Victorian days. Joanna no doubt expected to have other children after Nigel Bowyer who was born in 1870. However, difficulties may have ensued as her fifth child was not born until six years later - and not in Netherseal but in Edinburgh. Tim Godfrey's mother's memoirs state that her father was a sixth child, so Joanna may have had a miscarriage or there may have been an infant that did not survive. In either case, it would not have been named or shown in the baptismal records of St Peter's church. His mother was not in good health and she went to Edinburgh to see an eminent woman specialist and stayed with her until the birth under her care. She nearly died giving birth and the doctors fought successfully to save her life, almost forgetting the tiny premature baby lying at the end of the bed. Happily, he survived and flourished, and grew up to be a strong child." http://www.sirnigelgresley.org.uk/chime-archive/sngplaque.shtml Sir Nigel, an Englishman of English parents, studied and worked and lived his whole life in England and is buried there in his ancestral village. He may have designed the legendary A1 Pacific 'Flying Scotsman', but he wasn't Scottish. John McEnroe was born in Germany, but he isn't German. Julie Christie and Sir Cliff Richard were born in India, but they aren't Indian. Khamba Tendal (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ante-natal complications 

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