Talk:List of WWE Champions

message: Didn't Rob Van Damn win the belt one night only for it to be reverted ala Chris Benoit?(Halbared 16:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If your referring to the reign I'm thinking of, then RVD beat Taker in a match, but it was later revealed that Taker's feet were on the ropes and the result was reversed a minute later. -- Scorpion0422 03:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unrecognised championships

message: I added the time when Jericho beat Triple H for the title, only to have it stricken, to the list. I feel it meets the criteria for an title reign not recognized by the WWE. Jericho beat Triple H, and actually held the title for a period of time (As short as it was). We make note of the time when Greg Valentine beat Bob Backlund for the title, and the title was held up, even though WWE says Baccklund held the title uninterupted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonJuan.EXE (talk • contribs) 18:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Jericho's "First" Title Reign.

message: Can we get a table with with like the top 10 Guys with the longest single Title Reign? So that people can see who has held the belt the Longest in one reign.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 05:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can already sort the table by reign length. Just click on the arrow and you can sort it loongest-to-shortest or shortest-to-longest. TJ Spyke 19:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

text: If I am understanding you correctly, you can already do that. The table is sortable, so you can sort all 92 title reigns by length (FYI; the 10 longest reigns are Sammartino's 2nd, Hogan's 1st, Sammartino's 1st, Morales' 1st, Backlund's 3rd, Backlund's 2nd, Backlund's 1st, Cena's 3rd, Savage's 1st, Hogan's 2nd). TJ Spyke 23:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh ok i read the wrong ok yea know i under stand and yes you can do that my bad--Dcheagle (talk) 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It says that Sammartino's 8 years are a record for longest reign by a wrestling world champion, but didn't Fabulous Moolah hold the Women's World Title (consecutively) for much longer than that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.76.220.34 (talk) 22:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest Reigns 

message: How long was the Rock actually champion? He's listed as 297 days but the dates in the chart add up to 302. Which is it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graveyardkiss (talk • contribs) 14:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Rock

message: As of  ,  is not a valid way to keep a list up to date. You have to actually tell us when the data was last valid. --Golbez (talk) 11:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  As of ... 

message: Does anyone know how to change the List of top combined reigns list to be under the List of top combined reigns banner and not under the External links banner?  I tried a bunch of things and I don't know for the life of me how to do that.  If anyone knows how to do that and can fix it, I would appreciate it.  Thanks.  Gibsonj338 (talk) 02:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of top combined reigns 

message: Just wondering.  --Starcade (talk) 03:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we refer to him here as Dos Caras Jr. or Alberto del Rio? 

message: Should we really put Miz/Mysterio on the list? After all, there is no guarantee that the events will play out as it has been announced. 76.29.164.90 (talk) 03:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove? 

message: A lot of us are not clear as to whether the list should include all champions or champions who have had a reign or reigns totalling X number of days (at least one group has placed X = 100 on many of the different pages).  Since we don't seem to have a central authority, we keep going back and forth.  I believe all champions should be listed, from zero days on up.  I think we need a discussion on that one.  --Starcade (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we always go through this with the Combined Reigns List?  Because... 

message: I had noticed that Cena was listed in the table of combined reigns twice, and in the time it took me to log in and attempt to edit, someone else had put him on top of the list with over 4,000 days. It's 1,024.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chasdenonno (talk • contribs) 07:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: John Cena: 1,024 days, not 4,000-plus

message: Whos the real champ? I thought Punk left with the belt, or was that just the belt itself?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.230.50 (talk) 11:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Punk or Cena?

message: i would like to change it
124.180.227.77 (talk) 06:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not how this works if you will tell me what you want changed I would be happy to make the changes for you--Dcheagle 06:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 124.180.227.77, 2 August 2011 

message: Why is CM Punk's victory at SummerSlam not being counted? He may have only been the champion for a few short minutes, but he still won the match and became the champion. Just because he lost an impromptu match immediately afterwards, it doesn't mean that his previous victory didn't happen. 2.27.19.166 (talk) 01:50, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  CM Punk at SummerSlam 

message: Someone needs to fix The Miz's title reign info.  It says he won on 11/19/2010 and held the title for 163 days.  That date is a Friday and Raw is held on Monday.  On Miz's wiki page, it says it was 11/22/2010 that he won.  So he held the title for 160 days and not 163.  I checked Orton's info above, and his is right.  I've never commented on here before, so if I've messed up the signing part, I apologize.97.73.64.169 (talk) 02:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miz's title reign 

message: Jeff Hardy || 1 || 42
98.233.48.103 (talk) 06:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 98.233.48.103, 27 August 2011 

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thread_title: File:Alberto Del Rio as WWE Champion.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: Just curious... the IWGP Heavyweight Championship has a column in its title history (and in its list of combined reigns) for number of successful defences. I think this would be a really interesting stat and wonder whether it is something that is worth adding to the WWE championship, as well as the various other WWE championships? Thoughts... Pigs Might Fly Music (talk) 13:57, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Companies like New Japan and ROH keep track of the defenses, WWE do not. We can't add one as there is no way to source them all. The title is pretty much defended at almost every house show.--WillC 22:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Not really. As Will noted above, PPV defenses are hardly comprehensive, and not a complete history of title defenses. Too many Raws, Smackdowns, house shows, Saturday Nights Main Events, etc. for it to be meaningful. WWE doesn't track title defenses the way they do in Japan; it's just not part of the American wrestling milieu. To try to include it would actually be original research. oknazevad (talk) 17:05, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Successful Defences 

message: Wouldnt it be a good idea to place in the notes section during a reign when a new title belt is introduced? Especially when the new design is permanent?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.24.221.54 (talk) 07:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noting Custom titles 

message: I just thought I'd let everyone know that I saw an error in the WWE Championship history under WWE Championship belts section. Where it said WWE Undisputed Championship2004 Edge, I removed the "2004 Edge" part
Psmith303011 (talk) 02:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in WWE Champions List 

message: Shouldn't the Ultimate Warrior's reign be 294 days? He won the belt on a Sunday and lost it on a Sunday. 293 doesn't divide evenly by 7. 294 does.I noticed this because CM Punk is approaching 294 days if he keeps the belt until SummerSlam.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE08:C8D0:84A2:24BC:8C0C:373F (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Would be a good catch, but no; pay-per-views didn't always take place on Sundays then as they do now. Rumble '91 occured on a Saturday. Papacha (talk) 21:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultimate Warrior 

message: How does Bob Backlund get the second longest reign as wwe champion if he only captured the title twice, one being 648 days and the second being 3 days  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.34.168 (talk) 15:49, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the reign recognized is 2,135 days. Papacha (talk) 16:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Because your math is off. Papacha (talk) 16:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob Backlund 

message: I've put together what I think is a fair format regarding pictures for this page:
1. The belt itself
2. The current champion (and if he happens to have the belt all the better)
3. The record title holder
I think this covers all the important items that needs to be represented, but other posters prefer to just have pictures of people with the belt, regardless if they're champion or not.
So I'll put it up to vote--my format or something else, and whatever we choose here will apply to all the other title lists as well to keep things uniform.
1. Emphatically Yes keep the format I laid out above.  Vjmlhds 18:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that you think it's a vote shows how little you know about wikipedia. -- Scorpion0422 18:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What--I'm not allowed to vote on my own proposal?  Next thing you're gonna tell me is that Obama or Romney can't vote for themselves for President.  Vjmlhds 18:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NOTAVOTE. -- Scorpion0422 18:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus for format 

message: Bruno Sammartino is the greatest WWE Champion of all time. His picture should be added. Gachingy (talk) 14:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there was a free-use image of Bruno with the belt I doubt you'd find much in the way of opposition. Papacha (talk) 23:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture Of Bruno Sammartino 

message: Is it at all possible to add a column to the reign length table that states the longest unbroken reign of the wrestlers? So in CM Punk's case (as I dont know the others) it'd be 352 I think, and so forth? Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The table is versatile ; completely sortable by pressing the tabs on top. Press "Days held" and you've got your number. Papacha (talk) 23:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No I mean like say John Cena has held it 10 times for 1,058 days, would it be possible to add a column that says what his longest single reign of those 10 was? So say it was 365 days unbrokenbefore a loss, Punk would be at 350+ I believe, and so forth.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again you can sort columns on both these charts. Just hit the tab on the top table. Papacha (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh ok, I was talking about the bottom table where all the information is summarised. Didn't see there was one in the upper table. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest consecutive reign? 

message: What exactly happened here? Randy is awarded title, loses it, then earns it back in the same night? The description for Triple H's win is blank, can someone fill this area in with an explanation of what occurred? Very confusing part of the table. Ranze (talk) 17:07, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: October 7, 2007

message: The table mentioned Brock becoming the youngest champ ever. A big deal was also made about Orton being the youngest-ever champ during his first reign. This makes me think perhaps we could include in the article the progressive 'youngest champ' records. I'll compile them here. It begins with the age of the first to hold it, and then only lists a new person winning it when they're younger than that record:
#April 1963 Buddy Rogers (born Feb 1921) wins title at 42 years old
#May 1963 Bruno Sammartino (born Oct 1935) wins title at 27 years, 7 months old
#November 1991 Undertaker (born March 1965) wins title at 26 years, 8 months old
#April 1993 Yokozuna (born October 1966) wins title at 26 years, 6 months old
#November 1998 Rock (born May 1972) wins title at 26 years, 5 months old
#August 2002 Brock Lesnar (born July 1977) wins title at 25 years old
#October 2007 Randy Orton (born April 1980) wins title at .. 27 years old? Wait a minute...
Maybe Orton was the youngest ever heavyweight champ? Better go revert that. Oh wait. Did I make any mistakes? I guess Brock really was the youngest WWE champ ever in the history? I'll make a similar chart on the HW page I guess. Ranze (talk) 18:02, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the one for Orton was the World title, not the WWE title, but it's still a fairly spurious claim if you go back into the actual history of that title and don't just ignore everything before the World/WWE split of the Undisputed title.69.212.127.94 (talk) 02:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Youngest champs

message: i noticed that it says that cm punk has won the wwe championship 3 times but when i looked on wwe.com in the title reign section it only says that he won the wwe championship 2 times. Not sure if its an error on wikipedia or wwe.com, but just wanted to point it out so you can either make the change or leave it as it is.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.32.154 (talk) 13:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Confusion emanates the fact that Punk was the champion at the same time as Mysterio and Cena. Punk won a match to become the undisputed champion, but it's not entirely clear if this counts as his second title reign or a continuation of the first. I'll look into it. – Richard BB 15:37, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Just checked; WWE officially call him a 2-time champion. I've amended the records to reflect this. – Richard BB 16:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  cm punks title reigns 

message: I have a request that we find a photo of Randy Orton holding the current version of the WWE Championship. The image on the page itself is great, but out of date because of their being a new title belt. 
173.18.208.35 (talk) 20:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Randy Orton WWE Champion 2013 

message: Backlund had 2 (recognized by WWE) reigns - one for 2135 days and one for 3 days. However, the "List of Combined Reigns" table is off, listing him at 3605 days. What appears to have happened is that someone added his 2135 day first reign total with the 1470 days he held it after the Inoki controversy was resolved - an understandable mistake, given the formatting of the table. However, the 2135 includes the 1470 days after the Inoki controversey as well as the time before and during. Thus, in total, he held the title for 2138 days - which actually puts him in 3rd, behind Hogan.
I tried to edit it myself, but I have no experience in so doing and it wasn't turning out correctly, so I have made no changes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.137.248.63 (talk) 20:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in Backlund's cumulative reign - wrong # of total days 

message: I think we should add in the list how many times a person defended the title and who they defended the title against while they were champion Dragonwolf21211 (talk) 09:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Finding details on this information could be difficult; plus, with champions who reigned for many years, the list could go on forever. Is this really notable enough, or is it in danger of becoming fancruft? — Richard BB 11:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

text: Don't apologise; all ideas are appreciated  I just feel this one is a bit superfluous. Thanks, though! — Richard BB 07:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

text: Would be really hard finding the info for Bruno.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.201 (talk) 16:59, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

text: I like the idea of listing defenses, however due to the difficulty of tracking title defenses at dark matches, I would suggest we start off with a more conservative attempt like 'successful retentions at pay-per-views'. This unfortunately means we can't count Sheamus' excellent WWE title defense against Zack Ryder, but sacrifices must be made. Ranze (talk) 01:37, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putting number of defenses and who it was defended against in list 

message: I think this page should be protected so only admins edit it until next week or the week after because of users constantly changing John Cena's reign from 12 to 15 when in reality the other 3 are only World Heavyweight Championship reigns. This page should have temporary protection until next week or the week after that. Stephen"Zap" (talk) 14:01, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've request semi protection, which will prevent IPs from touching the article for awhile.LM2000 (talk) 17:05, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporary protection request 

message: IMHO there should be some special recognition/mention of Stan Stasiak in the article.  Why?  Shortest (legitimate) reign (9 days) as an interim champion.    Yes, there are others on the list with shorter reigns, but the 1-day winners are purely show gimmicks.  And Mr. M's 6-day reign is really the same (gimmick).  Stan's title reign was a real transfer.  IMHO if you are going to emphasize the longest reigns, then a mention of the (sentimental favorite) shortest reign is also trivia-worthy.  Chesspride 66.19.84.2 (talk) 09:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: STAN STASIAK

message: WWE published an article about his phantom change: http://www.wwe.com/classics/phantom-title-changes-26076117/page-6
It should be a note, just like Valentine in 1981 or Jericho in 2000. Just like in these cases, the decision was reversed, and since Inoki handed to title back to Backlund, which makes his entire reign invalid.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrestlingLegendAS (talk • contribs) 23:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We had a pretty lengthy discussion like this awhile back with Jack Veneno's reign on List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions.  Some phantom reigns were briefly recognized, and still are by other promotions, others (like Hogan's NWA reign and Jericho's WWF) were just Dusty finishes.  This summarizes the Inoki WWF reign pretty well.  It lasted for almost a week but was never mentioned outside of Japan.LM2000 (talk) 04:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

text: We had a discussion about a 1979 incident with the NWA belt and Hogan, but his AWA reign doesn't count either.  If WWE change their mind then we'll have to reflect that, we have an incident with the List of TNA World Tag Team Champions article where TNA can't decide whether or not to recognize Kaz and Super Eric's reign.LM2000 (talk) 07:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

text: There's a difference between a win being overturned and a reign going unrecognized.  Hogan's AWA reigns were both overturned, as was that NWA reign.  It was kind of like Jericho's WWF reign, only instead of the decision being reversed in one night it took a week to do so.  Inoki and Veneno won the belts clean overseas at a time when they didn't have to worry about international broadcasts, it made the foreign fans happy and they just handed the championships back and the fans in the States never knew about it.  Hogan, Jericho and Valentine's situations were all storyline driven Dusty finishes, which is quite different.LM2000 (talk) 20:57, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

text: I agree. It's a bit of a cheek to state 'actual as opposed to recognised. Halbared (talk) 09:24, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inoki should just be a note 

message: If someone wants to add these sources: 
http://www.wwe.com/classics/phantom-title-changes-26076117/page-6
http://www.wwe.com/classics/phantom-title-changes-26076117/page-2
WWE made an article about these title changes.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 14:26, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inoki and Valentine sources 

message: What's to discuss?
Some want a pic with the belt, some want the current champ, I gave 'em both...what's the big deal?
Why does it have to be one or the other?  The current champion is kind of important you know.
Vjmlhds (talk) 23:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really? 

message: "WWF on MSG Network @ Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York, USA" 
Or did he? I'm not sure, found this at cagematch.de WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 13:39, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hulk didn't win the title at a house show 

message: Whoever doesn't like Seth Rollins, stop changing the photo. He's the current champion, and needs to be the current image on this page. 
173.23.105.213 (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seth Rollins 

message: Sometimes when I type List of WWE World Heavyweight Champions, I can get to this page, and sometimes it takes me to the now defunct WWE world title. apparently the difference maybe caps. Can someone go and change the pathways a bit so it won't be so annoying to navigate. One suggestion, for the other belt, "List of World Heavyweight Champions (WWE)" for one, and "List of WWE World Heavyweight Champions" for the other Because that second option, takes me to the defunct belt sometimes. 
173.23.105.213 (talk) 08:36, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. oknazevad (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  search confusion 

message: Antonio Inoki's wiki page says at the bottom: 1 ^ Inoki's WWF Heavyweight Championship reign is not officially recognized by WWE.
So why is nothing said about Bob Holly's IC title reign on his page?
Should we delete the note on Inoki's page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrestlingLegendAS (talk • contribs) 22:39, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrecognized reigns 

message: Formerly there were 2 lists:
*List of World Heavyweight Champions (WWE)
*List of WWE Champions
What I would like to know is: do we have any specific references for excluding WHW champs from this list?
Has WWE made it clear that only former WWE champs qualify as WWEWHW champs, and that former WHW champs do not?
If so, when and where did they do so? Ranze (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, and the proof is in the WWE's title history. They consider this the direct continuation of their original championship, with just a name change. oknazevad (talk) 23:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: WWE v WHW exclusions

message: I know that the WWE commentators have been mentioning that Cena is a "15-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion" and most recently at Survivor Series, Sheamus a "4-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion". So what I have done is made a table on my sandbox, User:Aleuuhhmsc/sandbox, in which I have added up the reigns and days for both the WWE Championships and the World Heavyweight Championship, but I have not posted it on here because I figured people would lash out at me. So someone give me the green light or the red light on if I should insert it there. Aleuuhhmsc (talk) 22:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to say not to. It's only going to confuse things with respect to the separate title histories. We've has too many issues with that already. oknazevad (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't.  There is a strong consensus that the title histories are separate at Talk:WWE World Heavyweight Championship#WHW contributes to reign total, combining them is confusing and pointless.LM2000 (talk) 00:45, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This, http://www.wwe.com/superstars/johncena , says John Cena is a 15-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion (12-time WWE Champion & 3-time World Heavyweight Champion). This, http://www.wwe.com/superstars/tripleh , says Triple H is a 13-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion (8-time WWE Champion & 5-time World Heavyweight Champion). I don't know about you but I would put this conversation back on the table. Hell, it shouldn't really hurt anyone if I just add the table I have in my sandbox. Aleuuhhmsc (talk) 04:31, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Triple H profile says 13-time world champion, not "WWE World Heavyweight Champion". Please see the discussion the LM2000 linked to. I am sorry to see your efforts go to waste, but they're based on a factually incorrect assumption. oknazevad (talk) 05:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWE 'World Heavyweight' Championship 

message: Ok so I remember that the day the news was released about the title being vacated was November 5, the day after the house show, effectively ending Rollins' reign at 221 days. However, WWE.com's title history says that the title was vacated on the day of the house show, which ends the reign at 220 days (here is the link: http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/wwe-world-heavyweight-championship/20150329-seth-rollins ). I'm going with 220 just because that's what WWE.com says, and I don't really mind what we stick with to be honest, I just want to know what you guys think. Aleuuhhmsc (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That does pretty much make it official, though I would personally tell WWE they made an error there and it wasn't really vacant until the announcement the next day. But as it's their title, if they want to say it was vacant from when the injury was suffered, that's their call. oknazevad (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha that doesn't really help Aleuuhhmsc (talk) 01:50, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seth Rollins' reign 

message: Hi guys. I was rewatching clips of old shows (Raw, SmackDown, and pay per views) when the WWF/WWE Championship and the World Championship was first unified (from December 2001 to September 2002) as the Undisputed Championship, and notice it was called as such:
December 9, 2001-May 6, 2002: Undisputed WWF Championship
May 6, 2002-May 19, 2002: Undisputed WWE Championship
May 19, 2002-September 2, 2002: WWE Undisputed Championship
So while we got "December 9, 2001-May 6, 2002: Undisputed WWF Championship" correct, but for May 6, 2002-September 2, 2002, there were two different periods: one where WWE put its initial after Undisputed: May 6, 2002-May 19, 2002 and another where WWE put it before Undisputed: May 19, 2002-September 2, 2002. Do you guys want two distinct time period or keep it the same? Seasrmar (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undisputed Championship names 

message: It is listed as the WWE World Heavywieght Championship. Until WWE changes it on their own site then the name should remain the same as that is what the source says http://www.wwe.com/superstars
Chris "WarMachineWildThing" (talk) 03:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC
They have officially changed the name back to the WWE Championship  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.239.8 (talk) 19:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Heavywieght Championship 

message: 71.60.102.11 (talk) 15:31, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Article is not currently protected.  Removing tag. Nakon 04:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 30 June 2016 

message: I tried several times to move this page to "List of WWE Champions", but every time it said this page could not be moved. With the name of the championship being changed back to WWE Championship, the name of this page should be changed as well. If anyone knows why a move couldn't be made, I'd like to know. OldSkool01 (talk) 05:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that someone screwed up when trying to move it yesterday (anon's can't move pages), and instead edited the redirect, and pages can't be moved over a redirect with more than the redirect's creation in their edit history. You could easily file a technical request at WP:RM, as there's no opposition to the move. oknazevad (talk) 11:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I put in a move request. I don't think anyone will contest the move, but with some WP editors, you never know. Thanks. OldSkool01 (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why can't this page be moved? 

message: See the following talk page as this issue has already been discussed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:WWE_Championship#Vince_McMahon_or_Mr._McMahon.3F.3F.3F 
Chris "WarMachineWildThing" (talk) 18:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. Mcmahon or Vince 

message: https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/755238292639985666
18th July 2016 episode of Raw ended controversially. Stephanie announced Seth as the champion, then Raw went off air. On the Network, Lilian Garcia confirmed the match was a draw, thus Ambrose is still the champion. DanTheStripe (talk) 03:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I would go with the network for now.--174.91.187.80 (talk) 03:29, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

text: It's decisively Ambrose: http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/july-18-2016#full-detail-40008502 — Richard BB 16:00, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's the Champ? Rollins or Ambrose? 

message: On the list of World champions and their reigns, Seth Rollins is omitted. For the sake of accuracy, this should be corrected ASAP. Dovmensing (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: I don't see any place where he is omitted. JTP (talk • contribs) 21:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2016 

message: Someone changed lenths of title reigns (and combined reigns) according to "official WWE history", by the air date. It has to be fixed or undone, cause WP counts reigns according to when title changes actually happened.176.36.57.234 (talk) 11:32, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: They appear listed per WWE.com which is main source per WP:PW/RS Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me  13:07, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I kinda agree with the anon. The actual numbers should be listed, with the values accounting for tale delays in parentheses and/or a footnote; the current formatting reverses that. oknazevad (talk) 13:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess I'm not seeing the issue  if you see it or are understanding it better feel free to change, no argument from me. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me  13:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

text: I completely disagree with the changed format. A discussion should have been had before JDC808 took it upon themselves to make these changes. The reason WP has always used the date the title change actually happened as opposed to the date that the title change aired is because WWE themselves are very inconsistent with their title histories. WWE.com's title history sections are a mess. Sometimes they count when a title change actually happened and sometimes they count from when it aired. There's no consistency and that's why WP always goes by the date that the title change happened. I'll give you several examples of inconsistency. The New Day just surpassed Demolition's record as longest reigning Tag Team Champs. That's because WWE recognizes July 18, 1989 as the day Demolition lost the belts. If they went by the date the match aired, July 29, 1989, Demolition would still hold the record. Also both of Mr. Perfect's IC Title wins are counted from the date he won them, April 23 & November 19, 1990. Not the day those matches aired, several weeks later. Also, WWE.com counts Paige's NXT Women's Title win from the day it aired, yet Paige defended the title on house shows for weeks before the match aired. I can go on and on with plenty of more inconsistent examples. The way the WP tables were set up for years is we always go by the actual date the title changed hands and then make a note of when the match aired. Not go by the date it aired and then make a note about when it actually happened. That is backwards. OldSkool01 (talk) 15:18, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm currently making a Talk post at WP:PW on this issue. Yes, they're inconsistent, but it is their history that they have scripted, not us. More to follow at WP:PW. --JDC808 ♫ 15:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. It is their history, and they've been known to change their history at the drop of a hat. WP is here to seperate fact from fiction and tell what really happened and keep consistency. WWE.com can change their history on their own website all they want, WP does not. If WWE.com decided to say that Hulk Hogan is a former 12 time WWE World Champion, it doesn't mean it's true and WP would not make that change. OldSkool01 (talk) 15:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The standard disclaimer here that all pro wrestling is fiction, and that no titles are actually won in legitimate competition, should be mentioned. oknazevad (talk) 16:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix Reigns' Lenths 

message: Hey, I understand that thing with additional day numbers per WWE.com in case of title changes being taped, but even when WWE.com editors just made a mistake? John Cena reigned for 49 days last time he won this title, but if WWE.com editors are so stupid that they can't count days correctly, why that means we have to reckon with their stupidity? -176.36.57.234 (talk) 15:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's what they officially recognize. It's in the Notes for this reason. --JDC808 ♫ 19:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said at The project talk page, it's obvious what WWE is doing is counting inclusively, where they count both the day a champ won and lost the title as part of the reign. Like Cena's last reign, where he won on a Sunday, then lost it on another Sunday 7 weeks later. In that case he did hold the title for part of each Sunday, so they include both. It's actually valid when the unit is a day to round up to a full day even if it is only partial. oknazevad (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's absolutely wrong. That's not how anyone counts days. If you are born on a Sunday afternoon, you are not automatically 1 day old on that Sunday. It's not until the next day, Monday, that you are 1 day old. A full 24 hours have to pass before it is considered 1 day. To  use your example of 7 weeks, let's do 2nd grade math. There's 7 days in a week, therefore 7 x 7 equals 49 days, not 50 as WWE.com would count it. Let's say for arguments sake that the WWE World Title changes 9 times within a calendar year, if you were to do it the way you suggested, where both the day a wrestler wins the title and loses the title counts as part of their reign, then that means 9 times a year you are adding an extra day to the calendar. You'll end up with 374 days in a year. That's ridiculous. There's no other way to argue this. WWE just plainly has imbeciles running their site. OldSkool01 (talk) 22:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: And sometimes the count 7 weeks as only 48 days, then as 49 days, then as 50 days. They have no idea what they are doing. But I don't think we should change it, it's their official version.WrestlingLegendAS (talk) 12:30, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

text: But that's not sortable. And the real days should be first anyway. oknazevad (talk) 19:52, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title reigns by WWE.com 

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replies: text: World title, but that was a bad redirect in the first place; we intentionally merged that section to the general professional wrestling championships article be wise it was not separately notable and full of OR. The link you created was a holdover to a poorly targeted redirect. That's why LINK2SECT gives poor advice when it comes to redirects; page moves and merges are often not sufficiently accounted for by redirects and are therefore poorly targeted. Better to just directly link to the section, as they're the exact target, not through a resource wasting redirect. oknazevad (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your revert 

message: Someone needs to fix John Cena's combined reign and Styles' name in the combined reigns table. 176.36.57.234 (talk) 04:05, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You've got me wrong. I meant that Cena's days were incorrect, not number of days. Just like Styles' reign lasted 140 days, not 141. But now it's fixed, so it only remains to delete dots from "A.J. Styles", cause he's "AJ Styles" in WWE.176.36.57.234 (talk) 04:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Styles name fixed, Apologies your request seemed as if you disagreed with the 13. Appears all is corrected now Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me  04:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2017 

message: Why is Inoki champion in this article if the title change is not regocnized. There were multiple changes of NWA belt and some of them are in the NWA belt article, most aren't. Here this situation. Inoki is not a champion, there was no title change. If you count Inoki's reign, then Ted DiBiase IS the WWE Champion.
All of this is really inconsistent here on Wikipedia. You say that some champions who aren't champions are champions and some are not. Come on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 (talk) 17:57, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Inoki pinned Backlund clean while WWF was touring Japan. He held the belt for a few days and then handed it back to Backlund after a rematch ended in a no contest. After returning to the states, they acknowledged Backlund's reign as being undisturbed and that's continued since. He was officially champion at one brief point in time, they just don't recognize this anymore. This is different from Dibiase, whose reign was immediately overturned by Jack Tunney.LM2000 (talk) 20:12, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: In those times there was standard procedure to drop the title to the local talent and then regain it before the tour ends. None of those changes is counted in NWA or WWE. Only Inoki's reign. Stop lying, Wikipedia. Inoki wasn't a champion. Never. Regognizing garbage reign 40 years ago is ridiculous.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

text: If reigns like Inoki's count then Ric Flair is at least 22-time world champion. Wikipedia says it's 16-time. So why are you so inconsistent and count Inoki's reign but not recognize Flair as 22-time world champion. It's the same case - dropping the title to the local talents at tour.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The only person that thinks we're "counting" these reigns is you. For the record, Flair's unrecognized reigns are detailed at List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions. Colon and Veneno "won" the NWA championship under similar circumstances.LM2000 (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. You list unrecognized Inoki's reign. PLEASE LIST JERICHO'S UNRECOGNIZED SECOND REIGN. Same situation as Inoki.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 (talk) 21:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The one from Raw in 2000 where he pinned Triple H? That was a dusty finish, the decision was overturned fairly quickly because of a fast count from Earl Hebner. There's a difference between unrecognized reigns and overturned decisions.LM2000 (talk) 22:04, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No difference. Both reigns should be listed if Inoki's one have to be.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 (talk) 22:13, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We've had extensive discussions in the past and have came to a consensus that there is a difference there. Your opinion is fine but you'll have get a new consensus. If you list Jericho we'll have to list other overturned reigns, like Hogan's NWA and AWA dusty finishes. Consider bringing this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling if you want more input.LM2000 (talk) 23:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: After the discussion with you I've changed some opinions. Present article seems good with Inoki grey in both tables. You're doing a good job, cheers.88.156.93.97 (talk) 23:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: And what about the US title history? OK, WWE recognizes Flair as a 6-time champ, but what about unrecognized reigns of Greg Valentine, Blackjack Mulligan and Paul Jones? I think they don't have to be counted.176.36.57.234 (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's something you'll have to bring up at Talk:List of WWE United States Champions. When WWE acquired the belt they recognized some of the reigns WCW didn't but also probably decided not to recognize some which they did. Flair is only listed as a five time champion in the title history but is described as a six time champ elsewhere on the website, that's why Valentine is listed as unrecognized. PWTorch says Jones and Mulligan swapped the title back and forth, including one "phantom" reign designed for the angle. Feel free to continue this conversation on the other talk page or start a broader conversation about other championships at WT:PW.LM2000 (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: Punk's second reign (Survivor Series '11 to Royal Rumble '13) is not recognized by WWE as 435 days. Punk always said in his promos he was champion for 434 days and he had tshirts with "434" designs on them  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.254.212.156 (talk) 19:53, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk's 2nd Reign Length 

message: I was in the process of adding this fact to the page when I noticed that it had already been added and removed several times. Is there a valid reason for this? It was stated on the broadcast, and the WWE page sourced says that it was "the first time in history that the WWE Championship has changed hands outside of North America." Is it because of the fictional Brazil tournament or the unrecognized title changes in Japan? Even so, what right do we have to go against the source? Vavent (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  First title change outside of N.A. 

message: Can we change the combined reigns table? The "No. of reigns recognized by WWE" side looks a little awkward to me, I understand the need but can we do like on the U.S. Champ. page, like Bob Backlund 4(2), since there are only 4 out of 52 rows which need that edit? DCF94 (talk) 14:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  combined 

message: Not sure if it's worthy enough to be noted on the article itself, but The Rock beating Undertaker for the title in July 2002 was the first time it had been won in July and that it had taken 39 years for the title to have changed hands at least once in each month. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.8.243.238 (talk) 11:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it should not be included. See WP:TRIVIA - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 12:31, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting date trivia 

message: On the latest episode of Monday Night RAW (22nd of July 2019) Ted DiBiase was referred to as a former WWE Champion, and his purchasing the title from Andre the Giant was mentioned after he purchased the 24/7 Title from Alundra Blayze, which was considered a legitimate title change. It can thus be seen as a retroactive recognition of his eight day title reign, and thus I put forth that this article should be updated to reflect that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.187.57.132 (talk) 14:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Ted DiBiase

message: The information about Inoki's title reign seems to come from an article on wwe.com from 2012 about the title matches. However, this article has been proven inaccurate. Both the November 30, 1979 and December 7, 1979 title matches are available in their entirety on the New Japan World streaming service. Inoki won the first match cleanly with a backdrop suplex. However, Backlund actually won the rematch by pinfall after hitting an atomic drop onto the top rope while the referee was distracted, regaining the WWF title.  This was a clean transfer of the title via pinfall;  the title was never vacated.  14.193.223.241 (talk) 12:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually that’s incorrect. Backlund pinned Inoki in the rematch on December 6th, but if you watch the whole video, right after the match, Hisashi Shinma walked in the ring, reversed the decision, took the belt back from Backlund, got on the mic and ruled the match a no contest because Tiger Jeet Singh interfered earlier in the match. He then handed the belt back to Inoki. Inoki refused the belt as soon as he went back to the locker room and that’s when the title was declared vacant. Backlund ended up defeating Bobby Duncum on December 17th in MSG for the vacant title. On TV in the US they never mentioned the Japan title changes, but they didn’t ignore them either. Backlund never wore the belt to the ring for the December 17th vacancy match with Duncum, nor was Backlund introduced as champion. There are several sources that verify all of this. OldSkool01 (talk) 08:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Inoki Information is Wrong 

message: Wiki's title history should accurately reflect the real number of days as much as possible,
All the title reigns that WWE.com wrongly added and subtracted by a day should be recognised as the actual number of days, otherwise it's just very confusing.
I'm of the opinion that only taped title changes should reflect BOTH the real and recognised number of days. RaikouSuicune (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correcting WWE.com recognised days 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Wardolo (talk) 02:12, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: RealAspects (talk) 03:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2022 

message: Wardolo (talk) 04:13, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Highway 89 (talk) 04:18, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2022 (3) 

message: Wardolo (talk) 04:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: RealAspects (talk) 04:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2022 (2) 

message: See here:
https://www.wwe.com/titlehistory/wwe-championship GrandDukeofLuzon (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cody Rhodes' title reign already recognized by WWE.com