Talk:British Home Championship

message: although at the height of Football hooliganism, I was not aware that there were any deaths or injuries like Heysel, Hillsborough etc. mostly Scotland fans stealing souvenirs for themselves. Perhaps a policing nightmare, but i was not aware that this was considered a particularly heinous act of hooliganism?
From memory, it was of major significance in making football hooliganism a 'law and order' issue. First, it was broadcast live on TV, at tea-time on a Saturday afternoon, and got a lot of time on the TV news. Second, it happened in London, not in Scotland, or some Northern working class place. Third, the hooligans were identifiably outsiders (they had dark blue shirts on and wore kilts and spoke an unidentifable language). Fourth, it was violent and frightening, even if the violence was aimed mostly at the goalposts. It made for easy copy for the Sunday papers. Neil Leslie 10:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1977 Pitch Invasion 

message: Why is Ireland not included in the list of total wins? --Drgs100 17:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Their wins are included in Northern Ireland's. Feel free to clarify it. Modest Genius talk 01:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total Wins - Ireland 

message: It was only a claim, a joke, and should be titled as such.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.100.206 (talk) 16:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Scots were never World Champions

message: I see Goal Difference is listed in the pages with the final tables, but Goal Difference wasn't introduced until the 1970s, these need to be edited down.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifcp1 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Goal Difference

message: Why is the Red Dragon not used between 1953 and 1959? I have never once seen this flag used to refer to Wales and it doesn't appear to denote Wales on any other pages such as the Five Nations, The 1958 World Cup etc. Blogdroed (talk) 11:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Welsh Flag 1953-59

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'm looking at contemporary newspaper reports of the final Scotland v Wales match in the 1883-4 championship, in which Scotland purportedly secured the first "championship".  Not a single report mentions anything about Scotland becoming the winner of a tournament / competition.  They treat it as an isolated match between Scotland and Wales -- often listing previous matches between Scotland and Wales and mentioning Scotland's superior record in matches between those two teams, but there is nothing about Scotland being the best home nation team that year.  Was this recognized as a competition between all four home nations only in retrospect? Grover cleveland (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's an example -- admittedly a brief report (chosen because easy to screenshot) -- but notice how it mentions that the FA Cup final (which, bizarrely, took place the same day) was the "match for the association cup", but says nothing about any prize available to Scotland.  Grover cleveland (talk) 04:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Did this competition really start in 1883-4? 

message: While I understand the temnptation to come up with a definitive ordering for each tournament, the use of goal difference here constitutes Original Research, unless we can come up with reliable sources that actually order the teams in this way. Grover cleveland (talk) 22:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree in principle, but in practical terms how would you display those on the same points in the table (alphabetical order would always falsely imply visually that England finished higher than the others...)? Crowsus (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of goal difference is an anachronism