Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Case/Babbarshair

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Since I have been accused of vandalism and sockpuppetry, I see it appropriate to presnet my case. Ipcheck is also a matter of privacy therefore before adhering to any requests its important to check the background of the case.
# phippi46 who has filed this complaint was banned on 10 January for 3RR , in which he repeatedily deleted whole sections from the article (check ).
# In his request he has selected code-C (Ongoing, serious pattern vandalism) and has given the refernce of the offensive picture. Please see Talk:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in which all the relevent points are mentioned in detail. You can also check relevent user pages to see details of a discussion in which things are discussed comprehesively. On what account then its vandalism?
# In the end I withdrew the picture not because we reached at some conclusion, but becuase it was taking too much time which unfortunately I didn't have. So we reached an agreement, to freeze this issue for some time.
# Rather than contributing anything to the article phippi46 has chosen to delete sections and creating unnessary POVs. If you see Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, all of sections which he didn't like are properly referenced. Although pro-Ahmadi, Long term contributors like User:Nazli was extremely patient and we had a very healthy and constructive discussion.
I therefore, expect that we first resolve these issues on talk pages as mentioned in the criteria for WP:RFCU rather jeoperdising peoples' privacy. His sock puppetry charge based on (Ongoing, serious pattern vandalism) is not qualified as I have presented above, and its better if it to be refered to the talk pages. --Babbarshair 07:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly reject his accusations of vandalism. Check my comments and follow the discussion. Check also user history in which he has contributed nothing except deleting passages from the article. He was clearly warned for 3RR, but didn't listen. I am not concerened whether its a sockpuppet or not, as Jimbo Wales has said: "There's no specific policy against it, but it's generally considered uncool unless you have a good reason" (from sockpuppet ). As a matter of principle, Users failing to discuss things on their talk pages and then post ipcheck requests is unreasonable and should be referred back. And before talking matters to other forums, where is the warning for sockpuppet on the user talk pages? I accedentely came across this page and found my name. If he was posting some complaint he should have warned the users first, as they might be unfamiliar with the policies. I don't see any such warning. Anyway I think I have said what I wanted to say.--Babbarshair 14:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason to comment on this. You can (check ) and get an idea of his contributions to the article. He was warned clearly on his talk page for WP:3RR but chose not to follow. The artwork he is talking about is clearly within wikipedia as similar depictions are present on other pages. --Babbarshair 14:53, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The article was created and written exclusively by User:Nazli as respected longtime contributor, I only added a statement of Mirza with references. --Babbarshair 17:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Comments: This is not a forum or place to discuss POV issues. I expect 'Clerks' to ask user to present his case for which he has made the serious allegations.  --Babbarshair 16:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Due to time constraints I would not be able to pursue this anymore. Jimbo Wales has said: "There's no specific policy against it, but it's generally considered uncool unless you have a good reason" (from sockpuppet ). As a matter of principle, Users failing to discuss things on their talk pages and then post ipcheck requests is unreasonable and should be referred back. Even if sockpuppetry is used please check first if it qualifies for serious vandalism charges as stated by the accuser. You can check their edit history to verify it. --Babbarshair 17:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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