Talk:List of sovereign states and dependent territories in North America

message: U forgot Melinaville  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.249.221 (talk) 22:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: The comment below was posted in the article. --bonadea contributions talk 10:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: There has been an extensive debate over at Talk:List of European countries and territories about what should and should not be included in the list because of the title. Most editors there support moving the page to either List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe or List of European sovereign states and territories. If the European list is moved it is likely this list will be moved as well in the next few days unless there is opposition to such a move here. It would help to avoid confusion and disputes if the all of these lists (countries and territories by continents) have the same title. Saying sovereign state rather than country is a more precise term and is in line with the fact List of countries redirects to the list of sovereign states article. 
If you have thoughts on the title please raise them here or ideally join the debate at Talk:List of European countries and territories. Thanks BritishWatcher (talk) 19:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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message: I see why my edits were reverted. On both the Barbuda and Redonda pages it says in the first sentence that both islands are part of Antigua and Barbuda, implying integration. However, on the Antigua and Barbuda page and on  its administrative division page, it says that Barbuda and Redonda are dependencies i.e not integral parts of Antigua and Barbuda. None of these statements are backed up with sources. Whoever edited those pages needs to sight their source for it or I suggest going for what the most respected geographical authority says. (I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know what that is here.)Anyway, Barbuda and Redonda can't be both dependencies and integral parts, and as soon as this is resolved all related pages (including this one) should reflect this. David815 (talk) 12:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to wikipedia David815. From what I can tell, Barbuda and Redonda seem to have some status of autonomy from the island of Antigua (where the capital is located) but are called "dependencies". The USA's state department website has listed "Administrative subdivisions: Six parishes and two dependencies (Barbuda and Redonda)." So while they are called dependencies, they are under administrative subdivisions. This is opposed to say the state departments article on the UK which states "Subdivisions: Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland (municipalities, counties, and parliamentary constituencies)." and the only mention of the British dependencies is the sentence "There are, however, 13 former British colonies--including Bermuda, Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands, and others--which have elected to continue their political links with London and are known as British Overseas Territories." The state department has its own list of dependencies, which while obviously not definitive doesn't include Barbuda or Redonda. I haven't seen a reliable list that has. Indeed, I would be surprised if a country named "Antigua and Barbuda" did not fully include Barbuda. If there is a reliable list found that does name them, of course there may have to be a reconsidering. At this point it seems like just the same word with different meanings, one of the many problems in the English language. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 17:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbuda and Redonda 

message: I've noticed that the dependency section has no column for "Sovereign State". I think that (for the general reader) knowing the state ruling a dependency is certainly more important than knowing the dependency's currency. I'm not saying that the currency column should be removed, I'm just saying that if we're going to have something like that, we should certainly have a Sovereign State column. David815 (talk) 14:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Would a legal status section similar to the one in List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe#Dependent territories be a good solution? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 17:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sovereign State Column in Dependency Section 

message: The other such lists in Wikipedia--Europe, South America, etc.--have sortable columns for area and population.  Is there some reason this one doesn't?  In those articles, those lists are sortable--that is, you can click a symbol in their headers and rearrange the list by that criterion, lowest to highest or vice versa.  140.147.236.195 (talk) 19:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Areas and populations 

message: because the countries Aruba, Curaçoa and Sint Marten (south) are completely independent, shouldn't they be on the list of independent nations?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.168.157.175 (talk) 18:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countries from the Kingdom of the Netherlands 

message: There are three copies of this list: List of sovereign states and dependent territories in North America, , and .  There really only needs to be one, and it can combine the columns from all the existing tables.  Same is true for the other continents. -- Beland (talk) 07:07, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merges needed 

message: Should not Denmark be included? They hold half of Hans Island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island). That gives them territory in North America.
Similarly, France holds St Pierre and Miquelon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon), which also gives them territory in North America. 170.203.218.236 (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Greenland and Saint Pierre and Miquelon are already in the article. CMD (talk) 01:13, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denmark and France.