Talk:J. Marion Sims

message: I seriously doubt that he practiced his techniques on white women. Black slave women, against their consent, were used as a "mule" for Sims to perform his treacherous and painful trial and error procedures! What ashame! Although, undoubtedly, he has improved our gynecological technology, we should still bring light to the fact that these black slaves were critically harmed and that Sims, like most white people during that time...and now,....were and are RACIST!
- Coco (NY) 4/23/07
P.S. Read the book Post Traumatic Slave Syndrom written by Joy DeGruy Leary, Ph.D.
:White women did not get fistulas at the same rate because they received better obstetric care when they wee delivering. The main contributor to fistulas (even toady in Africa), is failure to refer for obstetric assistance during an obstructed delivery. Egmason (talk) 11:14, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would think that the current version is more correct in terms of the anesthesia issue. First of all, fistulas are a dreadful condition, people with it are ostracized, so even surgery without anesthesia may eventually become an option if there are no alternatives; second, anesthesia was just entering medial use when he was doing his experimental surgery - I see no evidence that he "refused" its application; third, we all owe gratitude to his early patients. Ekem 00:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: You are correct; the section to which you refer was added inappropriately (although some the content therein could certainly be incorporated into the rest of the article). I will add the "Fresh Look" article as an external link. DS (talk) 12:42, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am going to revert the replacement of "used" with "subjected women who were held captive as". The sense is already conveyed, I'm really not sure what this adds. Of course, I'm happy to discuss it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phrasing of women captives / slaves 

message: His "supporters" respond  more work to be done J8079s (talk) 23:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's from 2006, and I think the article already addresses most of those points. But thanks anyway. DS (talk) 12:40, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  critics 

message: J. Marion Sims was not the first. Henry Dalton performed a pericardial surgery in 1891. Daniel Hale Williams performed one in 1893.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.129.48 (talk) 04:31, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction: First U.S. open heart surgery? 

message: Delete reference in caption to building being used for later open heart surgery; not relevant to this article and not an innate characteristic of the buildingParkwells (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete reference to building

message: According to the article on Memorial-Sloan Kettering Hospital Center, it was founded in 1884, after Sims died. It says nothing about him, so deleted sentence about connection between his last hospital and this one. The statement was not sourced. Parkwells (talk) 00:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete Memorial Hospital

message: Recent changes to this article have contradicted each other on a few points. The enslaved women on whom he did the bulk of his experimentation — were there 14 of them, or 12? And did he purchase them, or did he "take responsibility for their care on the condition that their masters provide clothing and pay taxes" ? DS (talk) 14:36, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Details to clarify 

message: I think by date would be much more helpful. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J._Marion_Sims&action=edit§ion=15 deisenbe (talk) 02:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There having been no comment on this for two weeks, I’m making it chronological. deisenbe (talk) 09:42, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the note that says alphabetize by surname?