Talk:Beatrice Baudelaire

message: I just borowed a copy of the beatrice letters from a friend, and I don't know how many of you read it, but there's a lot of info that needs to be added. We should add a lot more stuff to this.
I just read the book this week, and i cant believe there are two Beatrices!, maybe the mother and the daugther, a daugther kidnapped by a secret organization, so the Baudelaires siblings never realize of her existence. But this is just a theory.
I'm sorry to debate your theory, but the other beatrice is THE BABY BEATRICE NAMED IN CHAPTER FOURTEEN, she was adopted by the orphans. She wasn't kidnapped. She was adopted. THIS COMMENT MAY BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF STUPID AND CONFUSING THEORY.
- Wikipedia Cleanup -  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.6.133.235 (talk) 20:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info 

message: The end of The Beatrice Letters does indeed suggest that there are two Beatrice Baudelaires. But the mention of her surname, or the fact that there are two, should not be at the very start of the article, since it's a major spoiler for anyone still reading books 1-12. Can't it just say "Beatrice is a character mentioned in Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events"? --203.206.80.233 04:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and removed it, especially since the question of her identity is still not resolved. (Could we even say that there are two Beatrices *in* A Series of Unfortunate Events? The narrator only seems to be aware of the elder, so perhaps the younger only features in The Beatrice Letters.) Go ahead and add more details after the spoiler warning, but for the first couple of sentences I think it's best to leave the nature of Beatrice as a mystery. (Think about it: an article about Bruce Willis' character from The Sixth Sense wouldn't begin by giving away the key secret of the film.) --203.206.80.233 13:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler problem

message: Whether Beatrice is a major or minor character, she needs to be included in the template? placed after elements that are in the book. Instead one has to find a link internally in the text. Suggestions? Rochelle CMN 16:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major/minor Character

message: The fact that Beatrice was the mother of the Baudelaire orphans is a major spoiler for the series, and although it did appear below the spoiler heading, placing this information in the title of the first subsection made it impossible to miss.  No one could look at the article without seeing "Baudelaire's Mother" in large letters in the middle of the page.  I have taken the liberty of changing the title "Baudelaire's Mother" to "The First Beatrice" and "Kit Snicket's Daughter" to "The Second Beatrice".  This is still a spoiler for "The Beatrice Letters", but I don't see a good way to avoid this. CKarnstein 23:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More spoiler problems

message: Given that the series is now over, I believe this article should be more streamlined without all the speculation and guesses.--CyberGhostface 22:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Shouldn't there be seperate articles on Bertrand, BB1 and BB2? Information about BB1 is scattered between Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire and this page. Pacaman! 00:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate 

message: I noticed some weasel words in the Trivia section, ...it is thought by many..., that should probably be deleted. Also, do we really need a trivia section so small? Either we could expand it, or delete it and merge the information in the main body of the article. --Orthologist 21:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words 

message: Since most (if not all; I only mention the possibility as someone's bound to argue) of the dedications are made to the older Beatrice, why have they been merged into the article for the younger Beatrice? (Note: If the current trend of these messages never being addressed follows, I may move the whole thing over myself.) 217.42.64.91 16:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he just fixed them. They're still not on the older Beatrice's page. 217.44.115.84 13:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dedications

message: Baetrice (the younger one)'s name be Beatrice Denouement?Elfin341 07:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if Kit and Dewey got married, and there's no evidence for them having done so or not, but Kit still calls herself Snicket.  (Some people even think that the baby is Olaf's, although I think that's unlikely, they clearly broke up a very long time ago.)  Because the Baudelaires have effectively adopted the baby - she's part of the family - then the Baudelaire surname is accurate, although I think that was partly to be more confusing in The Beatrice Letters.217.44.115.84 13:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The parents don't have to be married for the child to have the father's last name (most illegitimate children are give the father's name). Nor does Kit Snicket keeping her own name mean they're not married.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.203.56 (talk) 22:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, there is no indication that Kit and Dewey were ever married. Likewise, Snicket clearly states that BB2's last name is "Baudelaire", and in the Beatrice letters BB2 refers to the Baudelaires as her family. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wouldn't 

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