Talk:Jasmine (Aladdin)

message: How old is she? I haven't seen the movie in a long time and I was wondering if they could put her age on there. Punkymonkey987 23:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a source that cites her age.  According to Disney she's almost 16 at the beginning of the first movie. Cactusjump (talk) 19:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Since the movie never mentions her age (it always says "her next birthday"), I am removing it from the article unless someone gets some reference from Disney. Lumi-chan (talk) 00:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: 'She is also the only princess who did not marry a prince.'
What about Pocahontas, she's a Disney princess and married John Rolfe, who isn't a prince.( 213.10.46.8 (talk) 17:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, of course.  Feel free to remove it.  Powers T 17:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I will. Thanks.(213.10.46.8 (talk) 11:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

text: There's no proof saying she got married to John Rolfe.  In a relationship, yes, but not married.  --Changedforbetter (talk) 21:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The only one? 

message: To properly indicate notability there should be more reliable non disney produced sources showing that the character character has achieved notability in wider culture.RafikiSykes (talk) 15:44, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and the same could be said of all the other Disney Princess characters (aside from Ariel). They're all lacking in the whole reliable third-party references department. That isn't to say that the sources aren't out there, however. It's just a matter of finding them--GroovySandwichYum. 15:54, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Apart from the very well referenced Ariel article all the princesses could benefit from some referencing.RafikiSykes (talk) 16:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Title says it all. DmitarIvanov (talk) 03:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is nationality/religion really necessarr? 

message: Majority of what I researched said that Jasmine was modelled after Henn's sister but imbd also says that Jennifer Connelly was referred to as well. Should this be included or not? Euphoria7824 (talk) 03:32, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The one she was modeled after

message: This text is being repeatedly added by a dynamic IP editor. It has been repeatedly removed as redundant.
The article says, "Jasmine is a member of the Disney Princess line-up." It also says, "Nationality: Arab". The text being added is completely redundant. - SummerPhD (talk) 00:41, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "She is an official Disney Princess with an Arabic Appearance." 

message: A Personality or Characteristics section is used for the: Cinderella, Aurora, Snow White, Ariel, and Pocahontas pages. The Jasmine sections should be restored.
174.22.13.176 (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality section 

message: I see she was put into a "fictional martial artists" category but I see no other mention of martial arts within the article. Is a specific art mentioned somewhere I didn't notice? Has she been described as a martial artist in dialogue or a reliable source?
Inevitably I'm sure she's done some fighting in one of the TV series episodes but simply fighting doesn't make one a martial artist so I think we should source this or remove the category. I already commented out the 'teen' category until that is confirmed, should the same be done to this one? 19:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Martial arts

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message: Her article keeps calling her and citing articles calling her "non-white" or a "Person of Color". But Jasmine was made by an American company and by American standards she is "white". If you she wanna go further, several other countries also consider their Arab populations as "white". 
It would make more sense/be "neutral" to call Jasmine Disney's first "Non European Princess".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shatter Sky (talk • contribs) 02:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:NPOV, Wikipedia strives to reflect what independent reliable sources say. As you said, the sources say "non-white" and "person of color", so that's what the article says. If the sources all said she is a cheese sandwich, Wikipedia would say she is a cheese sandwich. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jasmine's technically "white". It would make more sense to call her the first "Non European" Disney Princess. 

message: An article here did a survey of Twitter users and came to the conclusion that some Twitter users considered Naomi Scott skin tone to be too light to accurately reflect how they perceived the character of Jasmine should appear. Other Twitter users thought the casting was fine. Selected reading of Twitter comments can pretty much get any point of view possible that a writer wishes to push and even then the article did cover both sides of the issue. The reference does not support the POV of "Scott was heavily criticized for her portrayal of Princess Jasmine". Also I don't think a survey of Twitter users is a good source of any commentary for any Wikipedia article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:54, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twitter reactions to Naomi Scott's skin tone 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 09:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 7 July 2021 

message: Look at Talk:Rosalina (Mario). I wanted the page moved to Rosalina (Nintendo) because I didn't like the idea of women being dis-ambiguated in a way that means they're associated with men. For a while my move was supported by people who saw it, but later people started opposing it with the words "don't confuse 2 meanings of Mario; the character and the franchise". (See the requested move over there for details.) Now, this page got a requested move that did succeed, and the same "don't confuse" rule applies. The terminology for the requested move of this page that did succeed would be "don't confuse 2 meanings of Aladdin; the character and the movie". Georgia guy (talk) 10:30, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there as policy or guideline that discusses this? Pamzeis (talk) 11:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

text: You're also using a WP:IDONTLIKEIT argument which holds no weight. Pamzeis (talk) 11:42, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Your I don't like it link points to a deletion discussion, User:Pamzeis. Georgia guy (talk) 11:53, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I linked the wrong item but you're still using a WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT argument. You also didn't answer my question. Pamzeis (talk) 12:02, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Writing about women. Georgia guy (talk) 12:34, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: In a nutshell, the essay (not policy or guideline) states we should not use sexist language or stereotypes or attack women in any way. Titling a character article after the film she was in does not fit any of the examples I mentioned above. It is simply disambiguating her from other articles. The fact that it is in italics also suggests it's a film. I feel you're reasoning fails as using "(Disney character)" also associates it with a male and a company that has males as the chairman and CEO. With that being said, the reason the article is titled this way is because of WP:NCF#Character articles (a guideline), which recommends titling articles after their film/film series/franchises, as well as to be WP:CONSISTENT (a policy) with other Disney characters articles. If you don't like the article being titled this way, start a requested move, there's nothing preventing you from doing so. Pamzeis (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the recent page move