Talk:Iron gall ink

message: I want to use this image: :Image:Eisengallustinte Essenzen I und II und Tinte.jpg but I need the description translated first. This is mostly just a note to myself. — coelacan talk — 04:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, on the left is an iron and vinegar solution (made from nails and screws!), on the right, an oak extraction in water, and in the middle (in the brown glass) is the mixed ink. Apparently this is homemade, and the two solutions have to be kept separate, until they are mixed just before using as ink. — coelacan talk — 05:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: pics

message: Tannin is not tannic acid.  They are two separate things.  Please see link below
http://www.teatalk.com/science/tannin.htm
In light of this, perhaps the reference to tannin should be removed and the gallotannic reference be taken of its parenthesis. Dave (talk) 15:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tannin

message: "Iron gall ink" gets 32,200 ghits, "Iron-gall nut ink" gets 288, including Wikipedia. I'm moving. — coelacan talk — 22:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  page move 

message: FYI, the fourth photo on the iron gall ink page actually shows damage caused to vellum, NOT paper, as the caption shows. It is true, nonetheless, that iron gall ink causes damage to vellum as well as paper.
71.184.126.27 (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo illustrating damage caused by iron gall ink 

message: I didn't see anything on it in the article, but are there any places where iron gall ink pens are sold? I was hoping not to have to purchase anything from online, but was wondering if it could be acquired through a certain store. 24.233.128.66 (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Iron Gall ink is suitable only for use by dip pens which you can still find in most art supply shops. Because this ink is highly corrosive, it cannot be used in fountain pens (I suppose you could use it - once, but the pen would be destroyed!).Lexlex (talk) 11:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Availability 

message: This section about a religious text and arbitrary rules is not relevant to ink. Planning to strike unless someone can enlighten.Lexlex (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Torah

message: The article mentions manuscripts "well over 1,000 years old" but states the 12th century in the lead paragraph. Should that read 11th or even 10th century? Or did a different type of ink predominate in the 11th century, with a gradual transition to iron gall? Varlaam (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, 1,000 years ago, until about 400 years ago, inks used carbon black, as they do today. I never heard of iron gall in ancient times. 79.106.203.50 (talk) 09:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "12th century" 

message: If it causes ink corrosion it can't really be used for pact ink like the pact ink page claims.
Should i make a change to the pact ink page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.12.73.85 (talk) 13:12, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Pact ink

message: The ink recipes as given, specify several liquid acids purely by volume.  For a usable recipe, the concentration of the acid needs also to be specified, either as a percentage by weight or a molarity value.  For the original regulations cited, that was probably supplied in a supporting clause or a meta-standard, something to the effect of "in this standard 'hydrochloric acid' shall refer to a 1M aqueous solution".  --50.134.74.129 (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If the recipe isn't a modern recipe they can't give the concentration of the acid.  It wasn't known.  Recipes can give the weight of of the gallo-tannic acid donor.  They can give the volume of liquid used to extract the tannic acid.  But the concentration of the acid is both unknowable and varied.  Some sources of gallo-tannic acid had more or less tannic acid than others.  Gall nuts themselves on the same tree varied in the amount of gallo-tannic acid available as well. Dave (talk) 15:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ink recipes are not fully specified. 

message: Re the recent squabble over whether the pen company name should be spelled "Platignum" or "Platinum". First, there are two distinct companies: (i) Platignum, a British company founded in 1919, and registered as the Platignum Pen Company in 1925: the company was acquired by Adare Printing in 1997, and survived as a brand name for a few more years, but now seems to have disappeared entirely; and (ii) Platinum, a Japanese company founded in 1919, renamed the Platinum Fountain Pen Co. in 1928, and still going strong. As Francis Flinch notes, it is Platinum that markets the six inks in question. However, although their publicity repeatedly uses the words "classic" and "traditional", at no point do they explicitly describe the inks as "iron gall" (or either of those words individually), and personally I see no justification for mentioning them here. I'm going to be bold, and remove the sentence entirely: if anyone wants to reinsert it, I suggest you're very careful with the wording, and don't go beyond what the company actually says. GrindtXX (talk) 13:23, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Platignum/Platinum 

message: This sentence is surely incorrect:
'It was not until the invention of chemically-produced inks and writing fluids in the latter half of the 20th century that iron gall ink fell from common use.'
Quink, for example, was developed in 1931. 'The earlier' should be substituted for 'the latter'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.166.210 (talk) 09:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of development of good inks 

message: No mention of printing? Curious how this was used on presses, if it seem liquid? 79.106.203.50 (talk) 09:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Printing