Talk:Priscilla Barnes

message: Someone should mention her topless cameo in the movie Mallrats, but I'm far too busy right now. Maybe you can do it instead.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.38.59.161 (talk) 01:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're too busy to do it yourself but you're able to suggest it here on the Talk Page? :-) Nightscream (talk) 01:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mallrats

message: I have deleted that Priscilla Barnes is still insisting the Penthouse photos are not her because she is no longer denying it.  Regardless of any public statements, she admitted it in a California district court during the legal action she undertook to prevent Penthouse from using the photos with her real name.  The result was Penthouse has full use of the photos but must use them under Priscilla's pseudonym Joanna Witty.   Here's the web site for the legal action: http://www.precydent.com/citation/792/F.2d/943 TL36 (talk) 04:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: In the previous version that Rms125 seeks to keep, the first line in the lede reads, "Priscilla Barnes (born December 7, 1955 or 1958; sources differ)[1][5] is an American actress,...". There are two issue here, whether she was born in '55 or '58, and the verification of it. Rms125 insists upon leaving both years there (as well as in the Infobox) because he claims the year of birth is disputed. The "dispute" apparently exists, so far as I can see and for which he has heretofore refused to discuss, only in his mind. If one hovers the cursor over the footnote "1" & "5", it will show they point to AllMovie.com and Internet Movie Database, respectively. BOTH sources, I repeat BOTH sources give the YoB as 1955, a fact that Rms125 would have known if, oh i don't know, actually checked them for himself, you know the way responsible and competent Wikieditors do before they make any editing decision. So, as far as I can see, there is no dispute on the year of her birth, unless Rms125 has access to some information that he has for some reason kept to himself.
The second point here is that even if there were a source to show the 1958 YoB we wouldn't be able to use it. I don't know what Rms125's background in research is, but back in covered wagon days  I can remember my historiography prof saying that a researcher is like a detective looking for clues. Just because you find something it doesn't mean it's right, and you shouldn't use it if the other information doesn't support it. (He also used a jigsaw puzzle analogy, in that just because you have an empty space you shouldn't force a loose piece into that space just because you want it to go there.) Now if you had actually read and understood the article, you would have realized the following: if in fact she had been born in 1958, this would mean she was underage when she worked at a Hollywood nightclub and when she posed for Penthouse. So Rms125, are you willing to make the potentially libelous claim that she lied about her age and provided false documents, which I'm sure is against the law? As i understand it, libelous claims are against WP:BLP and is therefore not allowed. 
I also tried to change the beginning of the Early Life section where it reads, "Barnes was born December 7 (some sources indicate 1955 and others 1958) in Fort Dix, ..." to my edit, "Barnes was born in Fort Dix,...". Since the Dob is already established in the lede and info box I believe it's unnecessary to restate it again in the article. But for for some reason Rms125 insists upon it remaining there - perhaps he will be good enough to provide an explanation on why he thinks it absolutely necessary for it to remain there. Yours sincerely, __209.179.36.56 (talk) 20:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: IN RE: "The "dispute" apparently exists, so far as I can see and for which he has heretofore refused to discuss, only in his mind. If one hovers the cursor over the footnote "1" & "5", it will show they point to AllMovie.com and Internet Movie Database, respectively. BOTH sources, I repeat BOTH sources give the YoB as 1955, a fact that Rms125 would have known if, oh i don't know, actually checked them for himself," --  as I mentioned (if you scroll above to a prior thread of this unending colloquy), IMDb and AllMovie.com are NOT reliable sources for personal info (see RS) and certainly cannot be deciding factors in resolving contested claims, which is why any article with only IMDb as a source is flagged as needing additional references (see here). Perhaps YOU could do some re-reading, @209.179.36.56, and more importantly, digesting. Quis separabit? 16:43, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  On her date of birth