Wikipedia talk:WikiProject hip hop/Archive 2

message: I just added the "WikiProject hip hop" tag to each of the articles relating to DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince's albums. Will soon go back and add the album template and single template to each article relating to their albums/singles. -- Jalabi99 15:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince: article cleanups

message: Within the past weeks, the wiki project has been more inactive and stagnant than its over been before. The project right now seems to be lacking leadership and direction so members arent really active in the project with the exception of a few of course (my thanks goes out to PONY for alerting the members about the possible deletion of The golden age of hip hop).  Chubdub 21:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I encourage anyone to tip off the project of anything controversial, as PONY did.--Urthogie 10:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some one needs to take initiative..... 

message: *Rapping: Please see to-do list on the talk page.  We'll have to do the stuff suggested at Featured Article Nomination to get it Featured.
*The announcements template: For now on, how about we make a habit of putting all deletion discussions up there?--Urthogie 09:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I definetely agree with point 2 and regarding the first point, you think we should put it in the Announcements template? Something like "Please provide some feedback on the article rapping on its talk page to help it achieve featured status" or something in that sense. I think it be a good idea. What you think?  - Tutmosis 22:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a great idea.--Urthogie 08:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  two things 

message: Syntax is --Urthogie 07:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  created template for barnstar 

message: People, please. Shepard Fairey is NOT a graffiti artist. He is a sticker bomber & wheatpaster. He has NEVER used spray paint as the main medium of his so-called phenomenology acts. Stop adding him to the WIKIPEDIA LIST of GRAFFITI artists. It is an insult to anyone on that list who has ever risked their life or freedom in the name of GRAFFITI. "Wildstyles", anyone ?
Instead of continuously overlooking the facts, one of you should research the company FUCT™ & its creator Erik Brunetti. If anyone on this website wants to uncover the "truth", it will be well worth your time. I would even say that it would be a great contribution to the world of information. For starters, you can log on to this website: []. Good luck.
-Brighton58Brighton58 03:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont know much about graffiti artists but why do you assume Shepard Fairey is not a graffiti artist because he does not use spray paint? Isnt spray paint just a very popular and widely used medium by graffiti artists since its easy to get and easy to use?  - Tutmosis 21:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the TRUTH about OBEY & Shepard Fairey 

message: I've just joined the project, and haven't done much yet save add Princess Superstar Is and Return of the Boom Bap, and fix up Fast Cars, Danger, Fire and Knives to mention that it was released twice. But working on albums has made me wonder: when is an album's entry no longer considered a stub? Some albums really don't have all that much that can be said about them; Princess Superstar Is is probably one of those examples. Blazing Arrow seems to have everything that article really can -- there's no controversy surrounding it, it makes brief mention of all the guest appearances and some samples, etc. The only other thing I can think of is chart position. I'd just like to start trimming the album stub cat down a bit. Anyone else got an idea of the criteria I should use?
Also, I deleted an "About the album" section from My Machine as original research on the recommendation of another editor (from an IRC conversation), but then realized that these are pretty common (Encore, amongst some others that I'm too lazy to find again), and I'm certainly not gonna go on a deletion spree. I was just curious how others felt, and if anyone could cite some examples from more established articles. --Philodespotos 05:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album stubs and OR analysis 

message: Everyone, pelase be sure to follow the guidelines set by related WikiProjects for consistency. I've noticed a lot of articles which use Template:Infobox musical artist 2 and Template:Album infobox without proper color codes, formatting, etc. Please refer to the Template:Infobox musical artist 2 page for use of the former, and to Wikipedia: WikiProject Albums for use of the latter. --FuriousFreddy 06:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thats a good point. We have a section about it on the front page. Anything you think we should add to it?  - Tutmosis 20:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Categories heading on the front page needs to be expanded to list what's available, since right now it's just got the hip hop parent, and then the list of stub cats. I'd just been tagging with cat:hip hop, didn't know cat:hip hop albums existed. I'd do it but obviously I dunno what they are. --Philodespotos 00:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You bring up a good point but if we expand it then it will make the page even larger. Now do we want that or another solution would be to move all that sort of stuff to a seperate page like Wikipedia:WikiProject hip hop/Manual of Style?  - Tutmosis 00:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think we should do it more like Wikipedia:WikiProject hip hop/Categories first, and make specific pages like that.--Urthogie 15:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compliance with other WikiProjects 

message: We now have :Category:Dead Underground Rappers. Tim Ivorson 2006-06-06
:Lol.--Urthogie 15:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...  - Tutmosis 21:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've asked for its deletion in the :Category:Dead rappers CFD, so hopefully a seperate deletion wont be necessary.--Urthogie 07:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Underground Rappers

message: I've heard that André 3000 has some sort of Phd in music. Is this right? His atricle has no information on his musical education. --Howdybob 01:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  André 3000's education? 

message: What's going on with Rapping? Are we going to have another go at getting it featured, or what? Λυδαcιτγ 01:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't had the time lately to go and put some major work into it.  However, today is my last day of school and I think if you guys help me we can get it featured very soon.--Urthogie 08:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No offense. I appreciate all the hard work you have done on your article, but I believe we should move on to another article. I suggest Tupac Shakur. There's still a lot to do on this article, and it seems that no one is really contributing to it. Chubdub 18:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration 

message: I don't know, half the time I go on allmusic it gives me the long ones, half the time it gives me the short ones, I don't know why. --PDTantisocial 09:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ... 

message: So is the Alternative hip hop article being split into two different articles (Underground rap and Alternative hip hop) or what? See talk page... Chubdub 22:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative hip hop  

message: Does anyone give a shit about this project anymore???? Chubdub 23:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm busy now. I'll try to get back to working on the collaborations and stuff soon. Λυδαcιτγ 04:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's with all of the inactivity??? 

message: Seems to me you guys are using different infoboxes than the guys at the musicians wikiproject You both should be using the same thing IMO. --Jaysscholar 20:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you explain exactly what you are talking about? Link here the page the you find questionable. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 22:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:MUSICIAN are using  and you guys are using . I think you both should be using the same thing. Emcees are musical artists so their infoboxes should be the same as musical artists. No since in Emcees to have different infoboxes. Also the musical artist infobox seems to have everything the band has plus more. --Jaysscholar 12:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

text: On the front page of this project it says you guys use the infobox band, but then on Rakim's page, he uses a musical artist box. James Brown uses musical artist, but not Dr. Dre. It should be uniform across genres in my opinion. --Jaysscholar 12:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Template:Infobox musical artist is the one to use. It was created and standardized some time after the front hip-hop project page was created. --FuriousFreddy 05:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  infobox 

message: I created that page, but for some reason the page title is "Same !@" instead of the full "Same !@#$ Different Day". Can someone fix that, cuz I'm completely clueless.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxplosive (talk • contribs) 
:The "#" symbol is used in the URL to skip to headers wtihin the artcile. In the very case it would mean "jump to $ Different Day section in the Same !@ page". See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28technical_restrictions%29#Characters_not_allowed_at_all_in_page_titles. But I don't know how to fix it. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 10:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you should change the title to Same !@$ Different Day or Same !@+$ Different Day and place this at the top of the page Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 10:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Same_!@#$_Different_Day redirects to Same_!@ for some reason. But you got the naming thing at the top of the article so I think it'll do. --Jaysscholar 20:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I also made a couple of redirects from Same !@$ Different Day and Same Shit Different Day--Jaysscholar 20:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed title. I kept the Same !@ one, so from now on Same !@#$ Different Day will redirect to Same !@$ Different Day. BTW nice job Xxplosive. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 10:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics Born ''Same !@#$ Different Day''

message: The Silenced Revolution is proposed for deletion. I have no idea whether it ought to be deleted, but the removal of the link from Immortal Technique to it rings alarm bells for me. Please have a look. Tim Ivorson 2006-07-25
:Answered here. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 11:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''The Silenced Revolution''

message: Super DJ Clark Kent is up for deletion, and it's starting to look ugly in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super DJ Clark Kent. If anyone has some time to chime in, please do so. Thanks. hateless 18:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Voted. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 22:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Copied your request to Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Noticeboard and voted. Λυδαcιτγ 03:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super DJ Clark Kent up for deletion 

message: Please take a bit time and have a look. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 11:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do with these albums? 

message: The article on west-coast Latino rap group Brownside is up for deletion. I'm not too familiar with the group, and I felt other hip-hop-heads, especially those more familiar with the group, may want to weigh in for or against deleting the article. -- H·G (words/works) 07:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brownside AfD