Talk:Timaeus (dialogue)

message: I've reworked (and added quotations directly from the Timaeus) the "World Soul" section of this page, as whoever wrote the previous entry had clearly not read Plato's text very carefuly (if at all).
128.205.73.127 (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In Wikipedia, we use sentence case for headings. Is "The Creation of the World Soul" an actual chapter in Timaeus? If not, this and similar headings need to go to sentence case. Thanks! 17:45, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: The World Soul

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message: I just checked all of the external links and nowhere is the word "Demiurge", ever used by Plato.MPA 00:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this seeming conflict is due to differences in translated versions? --Geekdiva (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Demiurge  Never Used in the Writings

message: I am sure that this is a common problem for articles written about the writings of Plato, but this article says things like "Plato assumes" and "Plato posits" as if it is clear that the author actually thinks what the characters think.  Plato never made overt claims in his own name, at least not in the Socratic dialogues.  Every such instance should be replaced with "Timaeus describes" (as is accurately used in most of the article. Rugbyhelp (talk) 17:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I know it's years late to the discussion, but I think this could help for future instances. In the case of many of the doctrines developed in this dialogue, as it happens with the proposition of a rational creator (the demiurge), the elemental constitution of the universe (earth, wind, fire and water as the basic manifestation of the physical realm, which shouldn't be confused with being its principle or cause, as it happens in atomism), or it's geometrical structure (e.g. the existence and requirement of "space"), we can find parallels of said doctrines in other texts. For example, the notion of a creator is atheme present in dialogues such as The Statesman, Philebus and The Sophist in a similar manner as its appearance in Timaeus. 179.60.95.33 (talk) 01:39, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: What Plato "thinks"

message: It appears the spinning object labeled "Tetrahedron.gif" in The Elements section is actually a 3D pyramid, and not a tetrahedron.
: A tetrahedron is a pyramid. RJC TalkContribs 00:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous .GIF (a.k.a. Pedantic Observation) 

message: The last comment about the Golden mean is wrong: the golden mean is never mentioned at all, even indirectly. Also Plato speaks of 'God' (in the singular) not 'the demiurge', There is no discussion in the article of the lengthy discursus on physiology, disease and sensation, which is by far the longest discussion in the Dialogue.  Also there is no mention in this article of the Creator God's creation of the other gods, nor of the role of necessity in the creation. Overall, I'd say that the article needs a complete rewrite. Eluard (talk) 02:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't understand it to mean the golden ratio either.  It appears as though it is just describing convergence as the average is applied repeatedly between two things (fire and earth). metric (talk) 14:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Section 

message: Do to personal limitations, I can't fix some problems I stumbled onto at Timaeus at Wikisource. I did point out the problems I saw at:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Talk:Timaeus#Help_request:_Remove_or_continue_the_partial_paragraph_numbers.3F
Please help if you can! Thanks! --Geekdiva (talk) 01:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help request for Timaeus (dialog) at Wikisource 

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