Talk:Jamaica station

message: There is a discussion occurring regarding the naming of LIRR station articles. Please weigh in if you'd like to! Thanks! –Daybeers (talk) 06:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  LIRR station naming convention discussion 

message: It's a minor matter, but our Jamaica station article includes the AirTrain station, so maybe its two tracks should be counted in the info box. Perhaps "12 (including AirTrain)". agr (talk) 17:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @ArnoldReinhold, good point. I assumed that @LIRRTrainMaster was referring to the fact that the LIRR tracks are numbered from 1 to 12. Tracks 9 and 10 aren't adjacent to any platform, but they are not the only tracks that bypass the station.If we change the infobox like you suggest, though, we also have to change the "platforms" parameter to "7 (including AirTrain)". Currently, the infobox only mentions the six LIRR platforms and 10 LIRR tracks. The AirTrain is only listed as a "connection" and doesn't have its own infobox, which I've always thought was a bit strange. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a closer look and there are other things that need to change. In any case, we need distance to Grand Central Madison. Should East Side Access be listed as a line? What then to call the line to NYP? The bigger issue is whether Jamaica includes AirTrain or not, i.e. is it an LIRR hub or an intermodal transportation hub? Take a look at Pennsylvania Station (Newark) which takes the later approach. I'm inclined to the later approach since that is what it is and doing so would give a better sense of the complex's importance to a casual reader. I wouldn't incorporate the subway station article, but would include a brief descriptive paragraph, and list passenger counts for LIRR, AirTrain and maybe subway, like Newark does. The services section could include AirTrain too. Thoughts?--agr (talk) 15:34, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @ArnoldReinhold, that is a lot to consider. I agree that we need to list the distance to Grand Central Madison, since we already list the distance to the other three terminals. Regarding ESA, I think it may be considered its own line, but only between GCM and Harold Interlocking, where it rejoins the Main Line.As for including the AirTrain station in the infobox, I think we should move that conversation to Talk:Jamaica station so we can get more eyes on the discussion. The Newark Penn article is a bit strange because the PATH station is part of the mainline railroad station there - there's even a cross-platform transfer between the NJT/Amtrak and WTC-bound PATH. I think something similar may apply to the AirTrain station at Jamaica, since the AirTrain's exit is connected directly to the LIRR concourse. But again, I think this would benefit from a wider discussion at the Jamaica station's talk page. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:58, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree we should move this discussion to the article's talk page. Do you want to just copy what we have to there? You have my permission to do so.--agr (talk) 16:09, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, I'll do that now. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jamaica station track count