Talk:Seán MacBride

message: Were they the Volunteers or the IRA when he joined them?  I believe the Volunteers became the IRA in 1916, so if he joined the Volunteers it would have been at a very young age. --Ryano 11:48, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "...joined the Irish Volunteers..."

message: Hello, MacBride was working with German intelligence in WW2. Some details IRA Abwehr World War II Fluffy999 18:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IRA Abwehr WW2

message: Can anyone heldp? A google search reveals that the only person who is supposed to have received that Medal is Sean MacBride. No other name is mentioned in connection with that prize. 
Everyone seems to have copied from one and the same source (Wikipedia?).
Two explanations:
1) this Medal is a joke and someone wanted to smuggle in something nice so as to counterbalance the Lenin Peace Prize.
2) the prize does exist and MacBride actually received it, but the official name is different.
Any takers?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.242.182.121 ([[User talk:{|talk]]) 13:49, August 20, 2007 (UTC) 
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In the book "coincidance" from Robert Anton Wilson is an Interview with McBride and it says that he got that Medal of Justice.
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:http://unescoscience.blogspot.ie/2007/03/on-st-patricks-day-homage-to-sean.html says
'He later received the American Medal for Justice (1975) from President Carter and the UNESCO Silver Medal (1980).' It also tells us he's the most distinguished Irishman ever to work for UNESCO. I've posted the following Comment (which may or may not appear there):
Why doesn't UNESCO educate its readers that Sean MacBride, Nobel and Lenin Peace Prize-winning former Chief of Staff of the IRA, Ireland's favourite bunch of terrorists/freedom fighters, was such a distinguished servant of Peace and Human Rights, that  Jimmy Carter, US President 1977-1981, hired a Time Machine to go to award MacBride the American Medal for Justice in 1975 :) 
:The Official Nobel website (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1974/macbride-cv.html) gives: Honours American Medal of Justice (1975).
:http://www.judicialmonitor.org/archive_fall2009/leadingfigures.html  gives it to him in 1978.
:http://trumbull.aoh-laoh.com/aboutus.html has Carter giving it to him in 1978.
:http://www.biography.com/people/se%C3%A1n-macbride-215216 tells us it was 1978.
Other searches of Google and Wikipedia yield nothing, suggesting it doesn't exist. I first remember it mentioned in an ad by some peace crowd calling on the world's governments to give 100 million dollars from their defence budgets for peace research. Me, I'll gladly save them 99 million by doing a spot of peace research for just one million :) At any rate it would seem the American Medal for Justice was invented to balance his Lenin Peace prize (which was real). Tlhslobus (talk) 04:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant US Government award is the Medal of Freedom that can be awarded for peace activism. But he is not on the List of Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients.78.17.53.134 (talk) 12:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the "American Medal of Justice"? 

message: see: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes where a discussion on this subject has been initiated. --emerson7 17:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate the link to said discussion, emerson.  However, nothing in that discussion justifies the deletion of the image.  The original deleting editor offered no explanation whatever, which is, to my mind, bad form. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 21:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nobel Prize images 

message: "He was responsible for Ireland not joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO)." Not on his own, as there were many other politicians opposed to it in 1949, including his opponents.86.42.192.72 (talk) 08:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correspondence between Irish and American politicians in the late 1940s shows that NATO did not need Ireland, in the new era of missiles, and did not want to pay to beef up the Irish military, but this was often misportrayed by Irish politicians as the result of their principled stand against the partition of Ireland. The reality was that Ireland wanted to join NATO but was politely rebuffed. MacBride's lifelong interest in ending partition was a convenient part of this charade.78.16.66.226 (talk) 09:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No. There were no missiles to speak of in the late 1940s, and the Republic of Ireland could not accede to the North Atlantic Treaty because the Treaty forbids border disputes and the Republic maintained an illegal claim to Northern Ireland until the 1990s. It was nothing to do with MacBride, a man who never achieved anything in his life except to win fishy committee-awarded 'prizes' for over-remunerated sinecure roles that he gained by privilege. Khamba Tendal (talk) 19:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: McBride and NATO

message: See the discussion at Nobel icon, where some editors are proposing to delete the Nobel icon. Please weigh in with your opinion!Utternutter (talk) 14:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nobel icon debate

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Utternutter (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of [[:Template:{{ucfirst:Nobel icon}}]] 

message: Substituted at 05:51, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: The article says that he held that post from 24 April 1936 – 9 July 1939. However: -
1. It also says that "In 1937, MacBride was called to the bar. He then resigned from the IRA when the Constitution of Ireland was enacted later that year. "
2. Chief of Staff of the Irish Republican Army says that MacBride left that post in late 1936, citing "Seán MacBride That Day's Struggle. A Memoir, ed. Caitríona Lawlor, Dublin: Currach Press, 2005. ISBN 1-85607-929-5", but no page number.
3. Tom_Barry_(Irish_republican)#Subsequent_IRA_career says that "In 1937, he succeeded Seán MacBride as chief of staff."
4. 1937 is also the date given by the Dictionary of Irish Biography in its artilces on MacBride and Tom Barry.
I propose to amend both this article and Chief of Staff of the Irish Republican Army to say that he left that post in 1937. 
Comments?
Alekksandr (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates as Chief of Staff of the IRA