Talk:Koi

message: In fact the fish and the Japanese Kanji "錦鯉" were both originated from China in Jin Dynasty (265–420). It was first developed by Buddhism monks in temple pools. It became popular in Tang Dynasty. The fish became a element of literature especially Tang poems. One example: 
Tang poet Lu Guimeng 〈奉酬襲美苦雨〉:
"層雲愁天低，久雨倚檻冷。絲禽藏荷香，錦鯉繞島影。 心將時人乖，道與隱者靜。桐陰無深泉，所以逞短綆。" 
(Buhuzu (talk) 21:08, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're agreeing with yourself. Please do not engage in sockpuppetry. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

text: The prior version that was altered with the false allegation of 'vandalism' was from me.  You are correct that there was no vandalism, and the prior version was fully verifiable and sources added.  The user LawrenceKHoo again reverted it back without making any attempt to utilize these talk pages, and made another false allegation that inaccuracies were introduced.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.48.52.241 (talk) 22:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin

message: If Koi truly were first developed in the 1820's, then allegations of Koi exceeding 200 years in age (e.g. Hanako born c. 1750, later in the article) are obviously false. The idea of 1 ring = 1 year is an assumption that does not appear to have been verified for this species. Fishbase gives a much more plausible maximum lifespan of 38 years for the common carp, likely applicable to the koi derivatives.
: I've also been bothered by those statements for some time. We should inject the proper amount of skepticism into those reports of long lived koi. Please feel free to do so, I'll try to add something later. LK (talk) 08:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I take the 1820s date as the development of organized breeding, which doesn't preclude naturally-colored individuals having been found earlier.  Indeed, if word got out to the countryside that brightly-colored fish were desirable and worth some money, that would be an incentive to try one's hand at making more... Stan (talk) 17:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hanako Anachronism 

message: Can someone examine the Koi pond article to double-check that it worths staying in Wikipedia as is, or merging here, or maybe removing? It is written a bit like in promo style, but definitely non-encyclopaedic. Honeyman (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koi pond: dup or ad? 

message: The description of the Asagi Koi reads:
"Asagi (浅黄?) A koi that is light blue above and usually red, but also occasionally pale yellow or cream, generally below the lateral line and on the cheeks. The Japanese name means pale greenish-blue, spring onion colour, or indigo. Sometime incorrectly written as 浅黄 (light yellow)." [the question mark on the first text is a link to help displaying Japanese characters]
The name and the "sometimes incorrectly written as" are identical, Unicode hex codes 6D45-9EC4. Google Translate suggested 浅葱 (Ux6D45-8471), but I don't speak Japanese and therefore have no idea whether that's a better translation.
Lincmad (talk) 02:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I do read, write and speak Japanese, and also work in the koi business in Japan. The correct Japanese for Asagi , as used by koi breeders in Japan is 浅黄  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulman (talk • contribs) 07:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varieties/Asagi Koi : contradiction in Japanese text 

message: :ja:コイ is subspecies Koi or species Common carp? Newone (talk) 10:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jawiki 

message: Are there koi in Central Park? I think I saw one there back in 2005 when I visited New York  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.211.43 (talk) 01:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello 

message: in the article it says the koi were developed in the 1820s but later on its says the oldest koi was 226, so 1820+226=2046 this cant be right,
also this particular koi is mentioned to have been born in yr1751 both these things cant be true. i think we should put "it has been claimed that the koi lived for 226 yrs" since even common sense will tell you the story is absurd.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123465421jhytwretpo98721654 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: age of koi

message: To the person that keeps on introducing this text:
"Cyprinus carpio or the common carp is a species of fish from the family Cyprinidae. The origins of the common carp trace to the Caspian Sea, where the fish naturally migrated to the Black and Aral Seas, east to eastern mainland Asia and west as far as the Danube River"' 
Stop it. The source cited directly contradicts that statement. The other sources make it clear that Koi are descended from Carp domesticated in East Asia. Stop introducing factual errors. LK (talk) 05:06, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Koi are originally from the Caspian Sea? Really?  

message: Is it an WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim to suggest that a particular koi carp lived for 225 years, when the article goes on to say that "the greatest authoritatively accepted age for the species is little more than 50 years"? It sounds exceptional to me, but I am no carp breeder. --McGeddon (talk) 17:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if this is a particularly WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim, I suspect that someone has a WP:RS saying that this was a hoax. That source should be introduced so we can put this claim to bed. CombatWombat42 (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Deciding that it is an exceptionally remarkable claim, which can only be sourced to a single "here some old animals" fluff piece in a newspaper, would also be sufficient to put it to bed. --McGeddon (talk) 18:19, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

text: I found these.  and the translation. The image of her scale. There is a list of books written by Amano.  His 1966 book has a chapter of Koshihara family's old carp (page 57). Not all contents of his books is available, but I think the origin was one of his books. Oda Mari (talk) 16:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hanako the 225-year-old koi 

message: This article is pretty in depth but I wanted to suggest maybe that when listing the different color patterns a chart like with Goldfish would be beneficial? Many of them are similar and I think it would be helpful to have pictures to reference off of since its sometimes hard to picture them and googling images for every one is tedious and not always accurate. 174.70.177.4 (talk) 02:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: A Suggestion?

message: To add to article: are koi eaten as food in the modern day? 173.89.236.187 (talk) 04:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  To add to article 

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message: FYI
The outside world was not aware of the development of color variations in Japanese koi until 1914, when the Niigata koi were exhibited at an annual exposition in Tokyo. From that time, interest in koi spread throughout Japan. It was from this original handful of koi that all other Nishikigoi varieties were bred, with the exception of the Ogon variety (single colored, metallic koi) which was developed relatively recently. The hobby of keeping koi eventually spread worldwide. Koi are now sold in many pet aquarium shops like Nom cat is a Badger204.64.198.50 (talk) 18:40, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errata inserted into history text 

message: I really would like to add another section in the article that talks about how hobbyist travel to show off their koi at special shows and what an award winning fish looks like. I also wanna add something about the different types of awards they give out for the different types of koi. I am doing a wiki edit for my english class and I have never done this before. I also found a few sentences I would like to add to the breeding section of this article. One thing I am a little confused on is that there is no citation in that section of the article. Should I only add the sentences I have and also cite my sentences? Or should I do something for the whole section in general?Dee moose (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wanting to add a new section  

message: "utsuri" does not mean "print". Wouldn't "showing through," etc be better?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.229.104.61 (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  utsuri 

message: In the article, "人面魚" is referred to as translation of Ghost koi, but I'm pretty doubt about it. See :ja:人面魚. --Akiyama(tentative) (talk) 09:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of Ghost koi 

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message: 16:38, 2 July 2018‎ 101.160.153.108, He changed the name from C. rubrofuscus to C. carpio. But author name remains "Lacépède, 1803". C. carpio was named by Linnaeus in 1758. So I think it's bad partial change. Recently, there is a similar change in the Wikipedia (Turbo cornutus 11:57, 14 June 2017). I can't decide what is correct. Can you correct it?--3代目窓屋 (talk) 23:50, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  An IP user changed the name from ''C. rubrofuscus'' to ''C. carpio'' 

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