Talk:List of British National Hunt races

message: Having changed the title of the Mildmay of Flete to the Racing Post Plate a few weeks back I've now had seconds and decided to revert the name back to the race's generic, rather than sponsored title.
I've also seen in today's (14th Dec 06) Evening Standard, that the new Desert Orchid Chase at Kempton Park will replace the Castleford Chase at Wetherby. I haven't altered the list yet though. Bcp67 21:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Month       	Race Name                                         	Type  	Racecourse  	Status           	Distance †
001 June    	Summer Cup Handicap Chase                         	Chase 	Uttoxeter   	Handicap         	5230 3m 2f+
004 August  	Lord Mildmay Memorial Handicap Chase              	Chase 	Newton Abbot	Handicap         	4224 2m 5f
007 October 	williamhill.com Hurdle                            	Hurdle	Kempton Park	Conditions       	3218 2m
008 October 	William Hill Novice Hurdle                        	Hurdle	Kempton Park	Novice           	3218 2m
009 October 	bet365 Handicap Chase                             	Chase 	Wetherby    	Handicap         	3922 2m 3½f
010 October 	Wensleydale Juvenile Hurdle                       	Hurdle	Wetherby    	Juvenile         	3218 2m
011 October 	Byrne Group Handicap Chase                        	Chase 	Ascot       	Handicap         	3419 2m 1f
012 October 	William Hill Handicap Hurdle                      	Hurdle	Ascot       	Handicap         	3118 1m 7½f
014 November	Colin Parker Memorial Intermediate Chase          	Chase 	Carlisle    	Intermediate     	4023 2m 4f+
016 November	Future Stars (Intermediate) Chase                 	Chase 	Sandown Park	Intermediate     	4828 3m+
017 November	Open Handicap Hurdle                              	Hurdle	Cheltenham  	Handicap         	5130 3m 1½f
018 November	Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race                 	Flat  	Cheltenham  	Mares            	3318 2m ½f
019 November	Standard Open NH Flat Race                        	Flat  	Cheltenham  	Conditions       	3318 2m ½f
020 November	Newton Novice Hurdle                              	Hurdle	Haydock Park	Novice           	3118 1m 7½f
023 November	Newbury Mares' Novice Hurdle                      	Hurdle	Newbury     	Mares            	3318 2m ½f
024 November	Rehearsal Handicap Chase                          	Chase 	Newcastle   	Handicap         	4828 3m+
026 December	Betfred Chase                                     	Chase 	Aintree     	Conditions       	5030 3m 1f
027 December	Fillies' Juvenile Hurdle                          	Hurdle	Aintree     	Fillies' Juvenile	3419 2m 1f
028 December	December Handicap Hurdle                          	Hurdle	Sandown Park	Handicap         	3218 2m
029 December	Henrietta Knight Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race	Flat  	Huntingdon  	Mares            	3118 1m 7½f
032 December	Abram Mares' Novice Hurdle                        	Hurdle	Haydock Park	Mares            	3822 2m 3f
033 December	Doncaster Mares' Chase                            	Chase 	Doncaster   	Mares            	4123 2m 4½f
034 December	Taunton Mares' Novice Hurdle                      	Hurdle	Taunton     	Mares            	3318 2m ½f
035 January 	Standard Open Juvenile NH Flat Race               	Listed	Cheltenham  	Juvenile         	2816 1m 6f
036 January 	Sandown Park Mares' Hurdle                        	Hurdle	Sandown Park	Mares            	4023 2m 4f
038 January 	williamhill.com Chase                             	Chase 	Kempton Park	Conditions       	4123 2m 4½f
039 January 	Hampton Novices' Chase                            	Chase 	Warwick     	Novice           	4828 3m
042 February	Scottish County Hurdle                            	Hurdle	Musselburgh 	Handicap         	3118 1m 7½f
043 February	Scottish Triumph Hurdle Trial                     	Hurdle	Musselburgh 	Juvenile         	3118 1m 7½f
045 February	Bumper Standard Open NH Flat Race                 	Listed	Newbury     	Conditions       	3318 2m ½f
046 February	Newbury Mares' Hurdle                             	Hurdle	Warwick     	Mares            	4224 2m 5f
047 February	Exeter Novice Hurdle                              	Hurdle	Exeter      	Novice           	3419 2m 1f
049 February	Huntingdon Mares' Chase                           	Chase 	Huntingdon  	Mares            	4023 2m 4f
050 March   	Cheltenham Festival Fund Mares' Novice Hurdle     	Hurdle	Doncaster   	Mares Novice     	4928 3m ½f
051 March   	Premier Chase                                     	Chase 	Kelso       	Conditions       	4727 2m 7½f
052 March   	Kelso Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race           	Listed	Sandown Park	Mares            	3218 2m
056 April   	Mares' Finale Novice Handicap Hurdle              	Hurdle	Newbury     	Handicap         	4123 2m 4½f
058 April   	Mares' Finale Novice Handicap Chase               	Chase 	Cheltenham  	Handicap         	4224 2m 5f
059 April   	April Mares' Handicap Hurdle                      	Hurdle	Cheltenham  	Handicap         	4123 2m 4½f
060 April   	Cheltenham Mares' Novice Hurdle                   	Hurdle	Cheltenham  	Mares Novice     	4123 2m 4½f
061 April   	Hillhouse Quarry Handicap Chase                   	Chase 	Ayr         	Handicap         	4123 2m 4½f
062 April   	Scotty Brand Handicap Chase                       	Chase 	Ayr         	Handicap         	3118 1m 7½f
063 April   	Select Hurdle                                     	Hurdle	Sandown Park	Conditions       	4324 2m 5½f
Looking for some good names, especially for the myriad of Mares' Hurdles and NH Flat Races.  Any sµggestions?
Does anyone know of "official" names for the two Listed races at Kempton today?  They had been sponsored by William Hill for a while, but Matchbook have taken over this year - will that last?
October Hurdle and October Novices' Hurdle would describe them fairly well but lacks gravitas, so I am hoping someone has a better suggestion. (JockeyColours (talk) 17:57, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Annoyingly they don't seem to have registered titles. In the 2015-16 Jumps Pattern Book  they show with their then-sponsored title. Choices seem to be either to go with the sponsored titles and keep moving them or make up a title (would count as OR I think) - neither is ideal really but using the sponsored titles would be the least-worst choice. --Bcp67 (talk) 18:26, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Listed Races

message: I see there was no Contenders Hurdle at the recent Scilly Isles meeting at Sandown so I assume it is correct that the race has been discontinued.
Are there any links stating this that can be added to the race page?  I assume the "Last Run" column on this page should therefore be Feb 2022?(JockeyColours (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that race had gone missing, although Sandown still marketed the meeting as Contenders Day, and it is not in the 2022-23 BHA jump pattern book  so I think it's reasonable to move it to the Discontinued section. I found this link mentioning it had been removed in the context of Constitution Hill's schedule - . Bcp67 (talk) 15:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: More on this today  confirmation that the race has been removed from the programme, along with a fair few other changes -  --Bcp67 (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discontinued Races 

message: There no longer seems to be any criteria for this list. We now have "selected" races which have no clear reason for being "selected". Should it just be cut back to Grade 1, 2, Listed & Premier Handicaps? Or do we include anything above a certain status - a specific prize value, or anything above Class 2 for example? Any views on this? Bcp67 (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @TCMallard, now we've sorted out criteria for the British flat race list, what's the criteria for the handicap races in this article? Class 2 and value, plus a course's main race of the season etc? Bcp67 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Bcp67 my general rule is about £40,000 and yes the more historical or significant lower grade ones e.g. every regional national TCMallard (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry that should be £50,000 TCMallard (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add the class and values columns to the handicap list for 2024-25 - the first race of the new season on the list, Staffordshire Plate, is on Saturday, so no point in doing all the 2023-24 ones now. Bcp67 (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citeria for this list