Talk:Pedrolino

message: Regarding the notion to mere Pierrot and Pedrolino, I am against it. They're related characters, but not the same.
--Sobekneferu 20:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: In response to the criticisms above, I have re-edited this page.  I have retained most of the original content, where accurate, but I have reorganized it in the interest of coherence and also added considerable detail and historical context (i.e., the section on Pellesini).  I have also provided much-needed documentation and in-line references.  I have removed the image, since its identification as Pedrolino is only conjectural (and I think erroneous), and supplied an image that is unambiguously explicit.  I have also removed the tag about the lack of sources. Beebuk 03:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: New edit

message: These figures have all been assembled by Duchartre (see the "References" of the article) as members of Pedrolino's "family."  The claim is highly dubious.  With the possible exception of Peppe Nappa, about whom we know almost nothing, the "related figures" that he assembles bear little relation to Pedrolino.  All are "second" zannis, not "first," as Pedrolino obviously is.  The figure that bears the closest relation to Pedrolino, paradoxically, is the Harlequin that sloughed off his second-zanni status when he was accommodated to the 17th-century French stage--but that is an argument that needs to be made at some length, not in list-fashion, and doing so would amount to a digression on this page.  Beebuk 01:43, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of "Related figures"

message: Hello everyone these are some credible sources that are also extremely helpful for this topic. 
1. Chaffee, Judith; Crick, Olly, eds. (2015). The Routledge Companion to Commedia dell'Arte. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-315-75084-2.
2. Henke, Robert (1995). Performance and Literature in the Commedia dell'Arte. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-17238-7.
3. Balme, Christopher; Vescovo, Piermario; Vianello, Daniele, eds. (April 2018). Commedia dell'Arte in Context. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-139-23633-1.
4. Grantham, Barry (2001). Playing Commedia: A Training Guide to Commedia Techniques. Heinemann Drama. ISBN 978-0-325-00346-7.
5. Oreglia, Giacomo; Sprinchorn, Evert (January 1968). The Commedia dell'Arte. Hill & Wang. ISBN 978-0-809-00545-1.
~~Samara.SJ~~
*Move this to commedia dell'arte talk.  --Beebuk 13:59, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional sources 

message: An someone completely uninitiated to theatre, who came here looking for a summary of what a "Pedrolino" is, the introduction of this page is kinda... completely useless. It's just a word-vomit of Italian theatre terms and random disjointed trivia.
All it needs to be is a summary, with enough plain language for a layman to get a grip onto. "A Pedrolino is a character archetype in Italian theatre. He is something, and his purpose is to do stuff. He originated starting in a century, particularly from the works of some guy. He is important to the history of Italian theatre for reasons. Scholars disagree on him." 2600:8804:8800:A401:8110:22DE:8DB9:7791 (talk) 06:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary