Talk:Kenneth C. Griffin

message: What religion is Ken Griffin???  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.98.153.59 (talk) 12:36, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: What religion is Ken Griffin???

message: Hi editors, there's a noticeable error in the introductory section on this page. The infobox reads that Griffin's net worth is $5.5 billion, while the first paragraph states $5.3 billion. It looks like the infobox was updated more recently, so I will reflect this change in text. Looking over the mentions of net worth, there are multiple inconsistencies. Frankly, the section is unreadable in its current state and jumps around instead of working chronologically. I think this section should be reworked as it shows Griffin's net worth and compensation at random points and not consistently. I will address the above change and look for editor feedback on cleaning up the "Net worth" subsection. Thanks for reading. Rog-Brackey18 (talk) 12:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I took the liberty of substantially rewriting the page. It reads a lot better now. If you have any issues with my work, or if you would like to collaborate to further improve the page, let me know! AbuRuud (talk) 23:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates/Net Worth 

message: Currently there is a significant section on art purchases under the Philanthropy section. I think this should be moved elsewhere, perhaps to Personal Life, as it is not philanthropic. 
Additionally, the total philanthropic giving mentioned in this article is around 7% of his net worth, and largely went to institutions like Harvard and art museums. Because the percentage he donates is little above that on average donated by households with an income below $20 000 (around 5% of income), and because the institutions are more aligned with Griffin's interests than with what could measurably be called a 'good cause', I think it is worth considering the removal of philanthropist from the description at the top of his article. DawsonCXVII (talk) 05:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropy 

message: I work for Rubenstein and on behalf of Citadel, I’d like to flag the content most recently added to the Political and economic views section as possibly violating WP:NOR and WP:PRIMARYCARE.
NinaSpezz (talk) 21:20, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political and economic views 

message: * The "most recently added" content, which stated  was omitted, as it states a point of view in Wikipedia's voice — namely — the point of view that donating money to Future45 indicates a person is "cementing an evolution" towards some sort of Trump Republicanism. Regards,  Spintendo  23:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 8-AUG-2019

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message: I work for Rubenstein. On behalf of Citadel and Ken Griffin, I would like to request revisions to the last paragraph in the Career section, which currently states:
 
:In January 2021, Griffin attracted criticism for the role played by Citadel in the GameStop short squeeze. On January 25th, it was announced that Citadel would invest $2 billion dollars into Melvin Capital, which had suffered losses of more than 30% on account of its short positions, particularly on GameStop. On January 28th, the trading platform Robinhood, favored by many traders involved in buying GameStop stock and options, abruptly announced that it would halt all purchases of GameStop securities except to cover shorts and would only allow these securities to be sold if already held (but not sold short); the price of GME stock declined steeply shortly thereafter. Because Robinhood receives a substantial portion of its revenue through a "pay for order flow" relationship with Citadel, many commentators criticized the potential for a conflict of interest when the same entity both plays the role of market-maker and also participates in the market that it makes; Griffin personally has been at the center of much discussion on this controversy.
 
Citadel LLC (an investment firm) and Citadel Securities (a market maker) are separate businesses, as referenced in these articles from Bloomberg  and WSJ . It is factually inaccurate to refer to them as “the same entity.” In addition, neither of the citations used on the existing page for this section use the term “conflict of interest.” Finally, this paragraph addresses speculative criticism on social media, which was refuted by Robinhood in a blog post and public statements and in an affidavit filed February 10th, 2021. The blog post notes, “To be clear, this was a risk-management decision, and was not made on direction of the market makers we route to."
 
It would be more accurate and in line with the existing supporting citations to state:
 
:In January 2021, Griffin attracted     Citadel  during the GameStop short squeeze. On January 25th, it was announced that Citadel  would invest $2 billion dollars into Melvin Capital, which had suffered losses of more than 30% on account of its short positions, particularly on GameStop. On January 28th, the trading platform Robinhood, favored by many traders involved in buying GameStop stock and options, abruptly announced  that it would halt all purchases of GameStop securities except to cover shorts and would only allow these securities to be sold if already held (but not sold short); the price of GME stock declined steeply shortly thereafter. Some   Robinhood receives a substantial portion of its revenue through a "pay for order flow" relationship with  
NinaSpezz (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: While reserving the right to comment on other sections of your proposed edits at a later date, I see no reason why "Griffin personally has been at the center of much discussion on this controversy" should be removed. It is factually correct, appropriately sourced, and adds valuable information. On what grounds should it be removed? Publius In The 21st Century (talk) 23:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done:  The majority of this edit is just adding wording that shifts negative attention away from Citadel (Securities) and toward Robinhood. As for discussion RE: the affidavit, including it as a source is essentially just saying "Griffin claimed the speculation was false". Also, the affidavit was written in the middle of a congratulatory article having to do with Griffin being given a "Risk Award" from risk.net, which just further weakens the rationale behind including mention of the affidavit. It's possible some of the wording in the original section should be changed for accuracy and neutrality, but I believe this proposed edit does a lot more harm than good. RFZYNSPY talk 05:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur Atolson1 (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career section 

message: I've undone the edit by Trader John1 that amounted to whitewashing, as it removed multiple critical sections.--- Possibly (talk) 10:16, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional whitewashing 

message: Please rollback to the version before Trader John started making edits. He clearly is WP:COI. The images he added are not in the public domain and he removed a lot of DUE content. Bvcqszj (talk) 13:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rollback 

message: Hello, I work for Citadel LLC and I would like to request the following edit.
Please remove the photo that is now in the Infobox and replace it with the following photo. The old photo is a low quality screengrab, and the new one is higher quality.
File: Kenneth C. Griffin.jpg
Thank you very much much Amandaatcitadel (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: In the future for COI edit requests please use the :Template:Request_edit template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2021 

message: Lost head of Masakado 71.94.248.30 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 05:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2022 

message: The article should reflect the past tense eg: Kenneth C. Griffin was etc. To my knowledge, although I am not an experienced Wikipedia editor by any means, the semi-protected status only applies to living persons and does not extend protections to the deceased. I believe this should be fixed. If my current level of knowledge is incorrect please let me know.TheSussedOne (talk) 03:32, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: (1) What makes you think this person is deceased? I don't see any recent news items about a death (2) any sorts of disruption may warrant an article being protected; protection is not limited to Biography of living persons violations. OhNoitsJamie Talk 03:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems I may have been tricked with a fake article, further research proves the original I saw was baseless. My apologies. TheSussedOne (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing the verb tenses and removing protected status 

message: Remove 'self-made', not in ref (and obviously not true, contradicted a few paragraphs above it). 92.14.171.177 (talk) 06:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Aaron Liu (talk) 10:04, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request

message: Hello, I would like to propose the following edits:
*In the second paragraph of the Introduction please change the first sentence to the following with the latest information:
:As of March 2023, Griffin had an estimated net worth of US$32.6 billion and was ranked 21st on the 2022 Forbes 400 list of richest people in the United States.
*Please add the following sentences to the end of the "Education" sub-head of the Philanthropy section:
:In March 2022, Griffin donated $40 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York to help complete the 230,000 square foot renovation.
:In July 2022, he donated $130 million to Chicago non-profits before his move to Florida.
:Griffin made a donation of $250,000 to a Miami scholarship program for STEM students in 2022, his first donation since moving to Citadel's headquarters there.
*Please update the first sentence in the "Arts" subhead of the Philanthropy section. Since Griffin no longer lives in Chicago his support for the Chicago Museum of Art should be in the past tense. The new sentence should read as follows:
:Griffin served on the board of Trustees of the Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago from 2000 to 2022, and regularly supported its exhibitions.
*The fourth paragraph of the "Arts" section should also be updated to reflect Griffin's move to Florida. Please change the first sentence to:
:Griffin contributed to the Art Institute of Chicago, and resigned from its board in 2022.
Thank you. Cduffymul (talk) 13:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page.  I have implemented your third suggestion with a minor alteration, but please do not change that any further. You can go ahead with the other suggestions. Actualcpscm (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro and Philanthropy sections 

message: Hello . Thank you for your help with my last edit request. I am hoping you can help with this request, too. I would like to update Griffin's 'Philanthropy' section with recent donations to 'Education', as well as make a correction to the 'Early life and education' section, as follows:
#In the first sentence of the 'Early life and education' section, please remove the phrase "the son of a building supplies executive." This statement is false. Please finish the sentence with "Daytona Beach, Florida." The source that is there now is correct about Daytona Beach.
#Please add the following to the end of the "Education" sub-section of the "Philanthropy" section:
::Also in April 2023, Griffin donated $25 million to New York City's largest operator of charter schools, Success Academy, and gave $20 million to Miami Dade College, where he also addressed the 2023 graduating class.
Thanks so much, 21:19, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Cduffymul  The first part is properly sourced (per Chicago magazine: ), so I have left it as it is. Ptrnext (talk) 19:47, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Philanthropy and Early life correction