Talk:Joan of France, Duchess of Berry

message: There is documentation that says that Joan was married at age nine 1473.  Other information indicates that the marriage was solemnized Sept. 8, 1476 when she was 12. She became Duchess concort of Orleans in 1473 as a result of her marriage to Louis XII for political gain and later, 1476 the marriage was announced to the world via the church.
I am still seeking verification of the two dates but strongly believe they are accurate and should probably be included in the article. Meanwhile I'll keep looking.
Daytrivia 01:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jeanne married Louis at the same time her elder sister Anne married Pierre de Beaujeu. Anne was eleven and Jeanne was nine.It was a double-ceremony.jeanne (talk) 14:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
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"Had the Pope been a neutral party, Jeanne would likely have won, for Louis' case was exceedingly weak. Unfortunately for the Queen, Pope Alexander VI was committed for political reasons to grant the divorce, and accordingly he ruled against the Queen, granting the annulment. "
It seems to me to be taking a "stand" on an issue, which to me looks like taking a POV. I sincerely hope someone can revise it to more neutral phrasing. Otherwise, it might need to be taken out completely. John Carter 14:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In what sense is it PoV? The King is historically considered to have had no good grounds for annulment: Alexander only gave him a divorce because he wanted support from Louis in his Italian schemes, and wanted Louis' assistance in arranging a marriage and future for the Pope's son, Cesare. Michael  Sanders 15:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The wording in unneutral like "Unfortunately".--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 19:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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