Talk:Member of parliament

message: When used as a title obviously it should be capitalised (e.g.: Joe Bloggs Member of Parliament) but then the acronym is always used.  Elsewhere it makes little sense (i.e.: it should be Joe Bloggs is a member of parliament). Even member of Parliament would be just acceptable if it was clear we were talking about a specific parliament (as Parliament could be shorthand for Parliament of ...) but we aren't in this article.  The same thing applies to simlar articles like Assembly Member.
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 00:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation of article title 

message: My friends in the UK are describing the Wikipedia as "a great work of fiction" based in part on the claim that an MP is a representative elected by the voters of an electoral district and that, therefore, members of the House of Lords are not Members of Parliament.  I see absolutely NO sources or references in the article for restricting the term MP to the Commons in the UK (There seems to be a little somehting for that in Australia.)  Can someone provide an authoritative reference? Pzavon 01:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's undoubtedly the case that some peers are 'members of parliament' but they are not nor have they ever been called  either that or MPs. Alci12 20:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That answer rather escapes the point, as the question isn't about peers who are eligible to be elected to the British House of Commons. Members of the House of Lords aren't ever referred to in the UK as members of parliament, although the House of Lords is of course part of the Parliament of the United Kingdom and they are members of it. We could call it an anomoly that somehow over the centuries members of the House of Commons have come to monopolize the description 'member of parliament'. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is not the House of Lords PART of the British Parliament? 

message: Kenyan Parliament, homepage http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/
To be added --RicHard (talk) 14:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing: Parliament of Kenya 

message: I think the topical importance of MP's remuneration means that this section warrants its own entry.
I'll look at seeing how this might be done Cloversmate (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Details on UK MP's remuneration to new section? 

message: The subsection on Wales currently starts:
   The Welsh Assembly ... forms the Welsh Assembly Government, which 
   unusually combines legislative and executive functions[citation needed].
I'm no expert on the relationship between Assembly and
Government, but this statement seems to contradict what is
said on the Assembly's website:
   http://www.assemblywales.org/abthome.htm
where the "The Assembly" section says: 
   This section explains ... the difference between the National 
   Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government ..."
Perhaps somebody who knows the details could rewrite the start
of this subsection.
Eebkent (talk) 11:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welsh Assembly and Welsh Government 

message: Despite having lived in the U.S. for some 20-odd years, I saw the term, "MP," to refer a member of parliament for the first time today.  It might be a good idea to change this text to something along the lines of, "In many English-speaking parliamentary countries, the term...."  It's additionally confusing because the term, "MP," typically refers to military police in the U.S.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.121.17.189 (talk) 05:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a problem with the sentence. It is factually accurate and there is no evidence that usage is limited to within English speaking countries only. There are many acronyms with multiple meanings but we don't constantly have to worry about the alternative meanings. The context of "Member of Parliament is often shortened... to the initialism 'MP'" makes it clear this is not about the US military police. Road Wizard (talk) 09:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The term Member of Parliament is often shortened in the media and in every day use to the initialism 'MP'." 

message: Isn't Israel a Westminster system? The articl on the Westminster system says it is.
If the two sections are split according to the use of the english term member of parliament/MP, then that should be made more clear, perhaps by renaming the sections "usage by country" and "other titles". Hydromania (talk) 07:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Westminster vs others 

message: Alright, I know the 2014 RFC result was/is Member of parliament instead of Member of Parliament. But it is rather odd, comparing to Member of Congress, not to mention that we use the abbreviation MP, rather then Mp. 19:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 08:50, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Member of parliament →  – This is a title which is capitalised in reliable sources, including the UK Parliament's own website. [] [] [] Google ngrams shows capitals to be most commonly used. []. I confess to only having looked at British English sources but that is purely because the article is written in British English. Ykraps (talk) 06:16, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: MOS:CAPS says "", so the abbreviation shouldn't make a difference. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 07:02, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sticking with supporting Member of Parliament. GoodDay (talk) 07:21, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

text: But, isn't this about the article title? not the content. See Prime Minister of Canada, Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, etc etc.GoodDay (talk) 07:08, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: An article's title is part of its content, and per WP:TITLEFORMAT, Wikipedia article titles are in sentence case, not title case. A formal title "where the position/office is a globally unique title" is a different matter this discussion is about the generic position, not a full formal title like "Prime Minister of Canada", and there is only one person holding the office of Prime Minister of Canada at any given moment, while there are many members of parliament. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 07:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sticking to my position. GoodDay (talk) 19:45, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

text: That's a good question to think about, but I don't think so, because this could refer to any parliament, and there are many parliaments, so the article is about parliaments in general rather than a unique body. Something is a proper noun only if it identifies a globally unique thing. In the context of a particular parliament, we seem to capitalize it Member of Parliament (United Kingdom), Member of Parliament (Canada), Member of Parliament (India), etc., but this is about the generic concept of a member of any parliament. I'm tempted to ping some Wikipedians who have more expertise on this than I do, but I don't want to be accused of canvassing to solicit support for my own opinion. I have included it in the list at the top of WT:MOSCAPS where all current capitalization discussions are listed. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

text: Anomalies that can be corrected. Cinderella157 (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, those should be moved to, many sources over capitalize but we follow the standard English capitalization rules unless there's strong evidence to say otherwise, so far it doesn't seem to be because the overcapitalization at least seems to be for specific positions while this article is clearly a generic concept. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:16, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 November 2021