Talk:Mel Sembler

message: As recently as Feb 3rd of 2012, IP addresses from within the sembler.com domain have been deleting content from this page. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.69.24.150 I have posted a comment on that users talk page clarifying that it is obvious that this user either works for Mel Sembler or is Mel Sembler himself. However I suspect it will likely never be read by the user.
I will continue to watch this page and if needed propose a block of the sembler.com ip space, and/or partial page protection if it seems warranted. Snertking (talk) 22:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism from Sembler.com domain 

message: John Gorenfeld, cited in the Wikipedia entry, wrote a lengthy article on Sembler and STRAIGHT in November 2005, available at http://www.alternet.org/story/27725/?comments=view&cID=54385&pID=54310 .  The material in this story needs to be incorporated into the article.  A few other notes: the material about Sembler's shopping malls being "creative" and "environmentally friendly" needs to be cited, and Sembler's new position as Joseph Lieberman's political advisor needs to be included.  Also, this article is too lengthy to be a stub.  68.221.254.108 22:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't vandalizing a page a violation of the Wikipedia TOS? And as per the Aaron Schwartz case, it seems the feds now seem to feel a TOS violation is a felony under the computer fraud and abuse act. Just sayin...
50.133.160.189 (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  AlterNet article 

message: Ok, I've gone through and cleaned up the page. Stuff done includes:
*Fixed references and cleaned up doubling in external links
*Removed the long list of allegations, this has been concisely summarised and readers are able to follow the links to view all of them
*Fixed up doubling of information in careers and shortened introduction, shuffled sections to make easier reading
*Removed POV, including unsourced allegations that he was appointed to diplomatic corps just because he was a fund raiser and subjective qualifiers.
Please raise any issues on my talk page Guycalledryan 09:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Up

message: The Sembler company has been removing seemingly reliable sourced information. I've asked them to bring up any problems on this talk page. I will be going over the article in the distant future to check the sources and make sure they're valid, but if another editor can do it before me and post here that would be great Guycalledryan 07:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User:208.69.24.229 has been removing the same information. I've left a message on their talk page asking them to raise any problems here. Trugster | Talk 19:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think it is worth noting that rDNS for 208.69.24.229 resolves to 208-69-24-229.sembler.com when checked on March 5, 2012 Snertking (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Sembler Company

message: I am in the process of going through and adding cites for content. There is a large amount of it that looks as if it may be simply cut and pasted from the sembler.com website. Arguably this man has made many positive contributions over the years, and that content needs to be as well sourced as the critical here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snertking (talk • contribs) 00:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large amounts of unsourced content 

message: I propose to remove current reference #24 to the North County Gazette, which is a 404 "page not found" error. This newspaper threatens to sue non-subscribers who read more than one article on their website. Also, I propose to remove the two Huffington Post references, now #26 and #28, which are advocacy opinion pieces with tabloid style headlines. These are justifications of the harassment of Sembler, not legitimate news stories. Use of such overtly biased sources violates WP:BLP in my judgment. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:11, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the HuffPo articles are unacceptable. A 404 error from a local newspaper hundreds of miles away is also not particularly helpful. However, I still think the entire section needs to be deleted and that view seems to have been endorsed at WP:ANI. GabrielF (talk) 17:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I also support removing the entire section as it gives undue weight to something fairly minor in the long life of a man born in 1930, because it serves to perpetuate the violation of his medical privacy because the sources linked discuss intimate medical diagnoses, and because inclusion in this biography continues and records for no good reason the harassment he has suffered. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:35, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Support removal of the section. There's an injunction barring Bradbury from coming within 1000 feet of Sembler, so he has presumably been rendered harmless; I'm ashamed to see Wikipedia take his place and invade Sembler's privacy all over again. Not much point in speaking in euphemisms in the actual text when the section serves to bring such reference headers as  and  to the attention of Wikipedia readers, is there? Remove the whole thing. It has absolutely no similarity with the "politician is alleged to have had an affair" example adduced by Snertking in a section above. Bishonen | talk 09:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. I only recall seeing one editor who wants the material (here, and at WP:BLPN, and at WP:ANI). An encyclopedic article does not need to perpetuate an attack by one individual with a grudge. If an incident had real-world effects apart from LOLs on one side and irritation on the other (such as a significant resignation or withdrawal from a project), and if those effects were discussed in a secondary source, there may be reason to include a mention of the issue. However, the removed text is essentially of the form "person X found a way to poke person Y, and the media used it to fill space". That is not useful here. Johnuniq (talk) 09:48, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor references 

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