Talk:Nayef bin Abdulaziz

message: could anyone please change the name from Nayef to Naif ? its more common to be written like this in English . Ammar 17:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Naif bin Abdul Aziz. --Rajah (talk) 20:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The name of the subject of this page is spelled Naif; see: . Formal transliteration rules do not apply when a particular spelling has become accepted.Supertouch (talk) 21:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think the name should be changed to Naif. This is because all newspaper chains (such as the New York Times) and the Saudi Ministry use Nayef.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mni9791 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Saudi Ministry of the Interior spells his name Naif, see: .Supertouch (talk) 23:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: hey supertouch. i think the article should be Nayef because major newspaper chains such as the New York Times use Nayef not Naif  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mni9791 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

text:    all the above: New York Times, Arab Times, National Public Radio (NPR) use Nayef  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mni9791 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

text: It ought to be changed as the official Saudi transliteration is Naif, as in Prince Naif Airport or Prince Naif Arab University for Security Sciences. See for comparison such Arabic names as "Raif". 2607:FB60:1011:2006:C8FA:EE34:6BEF:9D86 (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: this article is overly bias, its calls him a monster. that pushed it over the line, this need some work done on it, more sources. Dunkerya 04:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

message: Help.(Mni9791 (talk) 06:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The person on the picture is late Prince Nayef. You can believe in me. Egeymi (talk) 14:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture needed 

message: There has apparently been some confusion as to Nayef's new post. He is now First Deputy Prime Minster, not Prime Minister. He is also referred to by the Saudi Press Agency as Deputy Premier as in this post. The post of Prime Minister is held by the king. Ibadibam (talk) 06:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Positions currently held 

message: Considerable portion of the article has been deleted, even though this info is well sourced. Please try to fix them all. Thanks.Egeymi (talk) 17:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was fixed. Please do not delete any sourced content before discussing here. Thanks.Egeymi (talk) 07:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent deletion

message: I've added a Wikify tag because the use of the English language in this article needs to be improved. Also, the overwhelming majority of sources are in Arabic, and that presents a problem for unilingual Anglophone researchers. Guyovski (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which sources you mention? There are 41 references and none is Arabic.Egeymi (talk) 17:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And as a newcomer you are so ambitious to put this tag, since the article has been corrected with so valuable edits since the news broke.Egeymi (talk) 17:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you do not mind, I will delete the tag you have put.Egeymi (talk) 17:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for such a tag. The article is being written, rewritten, and updated per his death yesterday. If the article was unattended to for some time, then the tag might be appropriate, but not in this situation. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 18:58, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to Ism schism for remaining constructive and factual. I did some research and realized the tag I really wanted was "copy edit," but I take the point that this article is continuously being rewritten. I also have a low level of tolerance for emotionalism in Wikipedia talk page discussions, so it's unlikely I'll even keep this page under watch. Bye all and have a nice life. Guyovski (talk) 21:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice to hear these words, thanks, Egeymi (talk) 21:43, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Wikify tag 

message: I have some questions:
# Is it normal in Saudi Arabia to refer to a brother with the same mother and father as what would be translated literally as "full brother," and is it normally hyphenated when written in English? In the US at least, the word "full" would not be used. Instead, we distinguish between this scenario and that where one parent is different by calling the latter "half-brother".
# In areas of the article referring to a time after he was appointed Crown Prince, is it correct to refer to the subject as Prince Nayef, or should those be changed to Crown Prince Nayef?
# After discussion of his first and second wives, the next 'graph says "Maha bint Mohammed bin Ahmad al Sudairi is another spouse". Is it correct to refer to her as his third wife, or is there a distinction intentionally being made here? I'll note that there are apparently no articles for her children, unlike some of those from the previous marriages.
# Some place and person names are spelled differently in the article than a matching enWiki article. While I've changed some place names, and "Nayif" and "Abdallah", to be consistent within the article and with the enWiki article they link to, I'm not sure what to do with situations where someone has specifically used an alternate spelling in the wikilink, like Nawwaf bin Faysal. My inclination would be to change the argument to "Nawaf bin Faisal". Thoughts? BTW, shouldn't the "Bin"s in that article name be "bin"?
# The article title is currently "Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud". The lead, however, is slightly different: "Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud". Datarabia calls him "Nayif bin Abd al-Aziz" (and also has different spelling/caps/punct for many other names). Is there a transliteration standard that we should attempt to use on WP? I think I normally see other names with an "al" prefix written as "al-Something" (e.g. al-Walid, al-Aziz), but in the case of "Al Saud", it is cap'd and un-hyphenated. Is there a reason for this?
Some other permutations in just this article:
* Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
* Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud
* Fahd bin Abdulaziz al Saud
* al Qaeda
Trying to learn :) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:08, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions 

message: I made a number of (re-)edits, as follows:
* Makkah → Mecca for consistency within article, with linked article name, common usage in English, and in the cite given (Thanks, Egeymi (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: *The source (http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/17/221127.html) stating that King Abdullah led the funeral prayer is incorrect. Even the video in the source clearly shows that Sheikh Shuraim led the janaza prayer. Although King Abdullah performed the prayer, he did not lead it. A better quality video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai6GEKzKidQ#t=32m00s Here's a source that says Shuraim led the prayer http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20120618127306 Axiom292 (talk) 05:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Axiom292, then add it. No need to discuss it here. Noone will delete a piece of info based on a RELIABLE source.Egeymi (talk) 06:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

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message: I should like to bring to your attention that the prevailing transliteration of the name is Naif, as opposed to Nayef. The name is rendered as such on government bulletins, streets, buildings, and institutions—not to mention the many people (yours truly included) who spell their own names so. Compare Naif to other names that follow the same grammatical scheme, like Raif. I would hope that the page might be altered to reflect this.
Peregrine Aurel (talk) 07:09, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naif 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move   (t · c) buidhe 21:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - agree, as per nom and convention. Being of the Al Saud family is basically their notability. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

text: Strong support - I wish last year it was not supported because it was unnecessary Egeymi (talk) 14:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 November 2021 

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