Talk:American Federation for Children Growth Fund

message: After reading the article, I am left with the impression that the only activities of this group consist of forming and naming leaders. Have they actually done anything? Pairadox (talk) 20:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: other than lobby for more school choice programs (vouchers and whatnot) which have mostly not been successful?  --Rocksanddirt (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link to an article about a court case they supported but were not directly involved in Voucher battle heads to court  --Rocksanddirt (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, the article doesn't indicate any of their activities. All it shows is the formation, the shuffling around of leaders, and moving to DC. If they have actually done anything noteworthy, it should be in the article, not buried in references. Pairadox (talk) 21:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Performing action is not requisite for notability.  As the nutshell says, "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject," which does not necessarily imply any kind of action. Fredsmith2 (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What have they done? 

message: I don't like the propaganda-based approach that these folks take either, but having a non-notable tag on this page is ridiculous.  Also, we should probably take the COI tag off this page--There's no discussion of why the content of this page still is affected by a conflict of interest. Fredsmith2 (talk) 12:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps because the article was created by, and most of the content added by, a user with the name Alliancesc? Pairadox (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't like the propaganda either 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: If you click on the external link to this URL ( http://www.allianceforschoolchoice.org/ ) , that URL re-directs to https://afcgf.com/ which is the "American Federation for Children Growth Fund". It is related to another entity, the American Federation for Children (AFC). AFC is a 501c4 that used to have a 501c3 affiliate known as the Alliance for School Choice. I conclude that this group is no longer called the "Alliance for School Choice" but is instead now called the "American Federation for Children Growth Fund". Here is their 2021 tax return: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/522111508 Here is the tax return of the associated 501c4f: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/330627955/202243189349316679/full I advocate changing the title of this article from "Alliance for School Choice" to "American Federation for Children Growth Fund". Novellasyes (talk) 15:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name of this group seems to have changed 

message: The article currently has a sentence that says, "Clint Bolick, who was part of the legal team that argued the Zelman v. Simmons-Harris school voucher case before the U.S. Supreme Court..." in Zelman v. Simmons-Harris. I am currently reading the book, The Death of Public School, by Cara Fitzpatrick. It says about Zelman, "Clint Bolick, however, would sit this one out. It was a severe disappointment for Bolick after roughly a decade of courtroom arguments but not completely unexpected...The state of Ohio wanted to take the lead in one of the most prominent church-state cases in years." I interpret this to mean that while behind the scenes, he might have had some role in preparing the case, but I don't think it is reasonable to say, given what Fitzpatrick says, that he was "part of the legal team" arguing Zelman since I interpret that to mean "sitting at the lawyer's table while the case is being argued. Novellasyes (talk) 21:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role of Clint Bolick in Zelman 

message: Other sites have much, much more reporting on this group: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/The_American_Federation_for_Children 165.225.58.111 (talk) 04:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you see information in that article that meets WP:N and comes from WP:RS, you can incorporate it using WP:NPOV precepts into this article. Novellasyes (talk) 14:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article seems heavily sanitized