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Talk:Race (fantasy)

message: What should be done with Elf(D&D) and Dwarf(D&D)? Merge them into here or move them to a more appropriate title (like Elf (D&D), Elf (RPG))? I think they should be merged into this article. 
Also, I think this might call for another "Wikipedia is not...": I've been seeing a lot of highly game-specific material that doesn't strike me as very encyclopedic (for example, games like Neverwinter Nights (see assassin (D&D)), StarCraft (see Damage Types (StarCraft)), Counter-Strike (see Counter-Strike console commands), and Pokemon (see Stage 2 Pokémon and the pages on individual critters)). Wikipedia is not a game manual or strategy guide. --Mrwojo 16:16, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Also at some point one begins to infringe on copyrights. It would be useful have an article comparing "assassin" as a player type in RPGs in general, so you can see how games adapt/alter material from real life and popular conceptions. Stan 17:54, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I completely agree on both points.  --Mrwojo 20:41, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger Proposal

message: Per request on RFD, this page was moved. Please click on "what links here" and fix all the double redirects. --Jiang 07:50, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page moved 

message: The link J. R. R. Tolkien was edited to J._R._R._Tolkien to avoid the line break. I've reverted the change because the underscored link displays incorrectly for readers who've configured their browser to render links without underline (a better way to do this would be J. R. R. Tolkein, and I can't find any guideline in the MoS that indicates this is an appropriate way to format links. --Muchness 20:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Link formatting

message: AFAIK, the only "half-elves" in LOTR are those like the line of Elrond who forsook their elven heritage to live among men. Thus, such offspring choose one lineage or the other and are not truly "half-elves" at all! In the Silmarillion, elves come from a very different source than humans and are clearly a different species, despite the ability to produce intermingled offspring. Of course, questions of species get somewhat complex when applied to mythologies where gods create beings....
24.240.209.230 22:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Species ala Tolkien 

message: In comics and other works of fiction that primarily use anthropomorphic, humanoid animals, the different species of animals are implied to be capable of interbreeding.  Indeed, it is heavily implied that different species of animals in such works are related in a manner similar to the races of fantasy.  I'm having an extremely difficult time explaining this, so you may need to examine individual furries to see this for yourself...  --Luigifan 16:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Furry|Furries]]
Talk:Children's Crusade

message: Would it be relevant to mention that some people cite the Children's Crusade as the source of the Pied Piper story?--BruceGrubb (talk) 23:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 21:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: What a boring and dismissive response to an interesting and plausible interpretation of the Pied Piper of Hamelin. No wonder Wikipedia is in a malaise. AndrewHart500 (talk) 09:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pied Piper 

message: There were only 2 recent sources, and there are a couple of footnotes ("1" and "who") that need clarification. Some sources are missing too, unable to click on the link.
Brittn3 (talk) 17:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue with Sources 

message: The following is the sentence fragment from the 'In the arts' section.
"ger who seeks to reclaim the City of Jerusalem and sets out with his friends, and later with many other followers."Wzrd1 (talk) 23:59, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed sentence fragment 

message: Per this community RfC, cultural references need to include secondary sourcing establishing not only the existence but the significance of the reference. At the moment the content below lacks such sourcing; it will need appropriate citations in order to be included. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:19, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not "in popular culture" that's your interpretation. Sure sources can be added but that's no reason to immediately delete the entire section that has been in place for decades without complaint. That RfC is not a hard red line either every article has its own talk page and consensus.  What's your rush? Slow down, your deleting stuff all over Wikipedia at a very rapid pace, sorry if this dispute slows you down some, that's just how it is not everyone will agree with you in every article.  -- GreenC 04:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If you believe it can be sourced, by all means source it. But being longstanding doesn't mean it should be restored unsourced. It certainly doesn't mean it cannot be tagged. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Longstanding is a type of consensus. Also that RfC is not very strong: old, not many attendees, many of the votes are nuanced, the closer did not incorporate many of the comments it's a simple close IMO. Something as far reaching as this should be codified in guidelines or policy and not for such massive deletions across all of Wikipedia. -- GreenC 04:55, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "Longstanding" is no longer consensus once someone voices disagreement, and "longstanding" is not an exemption from the burden to provide sourcing. As to your concern about level of consensus: a community consensus is stronger than a local one, particularly one only assumed based on lack of complaint, but as it happens this consensus is indeed codified, in MOS:CULTURALREFS (which also notes that such content may have headings other than "in popular culture"). Nikkimaria (talk) 05:05, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural references
Talk:Mary Morello

message: Do you think I over did the information of her husband? Webhat (talk)
Man, this woman is awesome. --Xtreambar 14:58, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Husband

message: Funnily enough the original they was correct, as it was Stephen Ngethe Njoroge and Mary Morello, I don't have the reference though. Webhat (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's two references which disputes the text as it is now.
Webhat (talk) 17:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now changed these Webhat (talk) 17:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: They

message: I made lots of changes, mostly related to the research and sourcing of this material. As I originally created this article I thought I would be the best person to source it. Sadly, as with the Internet, some of the sources could not be directly referenced so secondary sources such as archive.org were used. I can no longer find a source for the nemesis line I wrote in 2003, I am not that inventive and did not think it up:  Sadly this article may now be the oldest recorded source of this line. It has been picked up in articles which date from after the creation of this article, but which quote the original which used '80 and not 1980. Webhat (talk) 18:57, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: January 2008

message: What's the policy on fixing URLs?  There's a reference to axisofjustice.org, but that domain got sniped, and is now a fake Axis page.  The real site is at axisofjustice.net.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.198.190 (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing URLs?
Talk:Landscape

message: This article looks strikingly similar to a footnote in Barbara Bender, Landscape: Politics and Perspectives, page 2, footnote #3...unless Barbara submitted this material, I hope whoever did asked.
There is an end quote to the Bender note, but no clear indication of where the quote begins. Perhaps with "Landscape"? Needs clarification. Deirdre 23:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  looks familiar.... 

message: What about "seascape"? HansenFlensburg (talk) 11:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: See Ocean or Maritime painting. Obviously the sea is the sea, largely beyond man's capability to affect the way it looks. Johnbod (talk) 12:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seascape
Talk:Growth factor

message: I'm not very familiar with growth factors, but the description seems to be bit different from those for what I'm familiar with...such as EGF, NGF, PDGF, TGF alpha and beta.  I'm especially interested in the role of EGF and TGF beta in development.
:Hideshi 20:48, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I agreee it can be made much, much better. As for high importance, the (somewhat arbitrary) measure that we use is that we assign a topic "high" importance if it is generally examined at the lower-division college level (RNA polymerase) or briefly mentioned at the high school level (endoplasmic reticulum). I think that this straddles the line between high and mid, and the class assignment of "start" is dead on. I think its current assignments are fine. – ClockworkSoul 13:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Confirmation holism

message: I'm not sure why there is such an abundance of links to theories of truth at the end of this article since Confirmation Holism is not a theory of truth.
I make a similar point on the Coherentism page where I also ask that there is a discussion of the difference between the Coherence Theory of Justification and Confirmation Holsim - perhaps a similar discussion should feature in this article since it links to Coherentism (despite having never referred to it in the body of the article).
Paucolpitts2 16:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theories of truth 

message: Quine-Duhem thesis redirects here, and not to the Duhem–Quine thesis page. Is there any reason for that? I'm changing it, but change it back if there's some reason for it redirecting here. Blue bear sd (talk) 01:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quine-Duhem thesis 

message: This is hogwash:
"However, it was eventually accepted that an unknown planet was affecting the path of Uranus, and that the hypothesis that there are seven planets in our solar system was false. Le Verrier calculated the approximate position of the interfering planet and its existence was confirmed in 1846."
I can't believe that the existence of Neptune was not only suspected, but actually "accepted" long before its discovery. Unfree (talk) 19:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Accepted

message: This whole section is totally confusing: It tells a nice story about some theories (Newton, special relativity, general relativity) and some planets (Neptune, Mercury, Vulcan) - and explains nothing at all. There is a slight feelingthat all that might be, in some mysterious way, connected to confirmation holism by the headline "underdetermination in physical theory" - but underdetermination is only referred to in the introduction as a (it seems unsatisfying) basis of confirmation holism. Nothing more. This is certainly not what an encyclopedia should do: Let its readers guess what is meant by a text. --User:Haraldmmueller 10:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Underdetermination in physical theory" is very unsatisfactory
Talk:Race (human categorization)/Archive 3

message: This is a followup to various strands above about what phylogenetic trees might be telling us.
Here is a summary of a phylogenetic tree based on analysis of the Y chromosomes of 1062 individuals from around the world. The tree comes from
It has 20 population clusters, but only captures 18% of the variation in the haplotypes. (That is, many of the haplotypes are spread in various ways amongst the identified groups.  The details are given in a table in the paper.)
Underhill et al did not have adequate data on New Guinea and Australia, and so created a single group for them all.  It looks as though they may have missed some interesting areas altogether.
In the following:
* "X, Y" means X and Y are leaves that are directly joined together;
* A+B is just the name of a single group.
The tree has three main lobes (A,B,C):
 A. Sardinia
    Sudan, Ethiopia
 B. America
    Mali
    Khoisan
    S.Africa, C.Africa
    New Guinea/Australia (grouped for lack of data)
    Cambodia+Laos
    Japan
    Taiwan, China
 C. Europe, Basque
    Morocco, Mideast
    C.Asia+Siberia
    Hunza
    Pakistan+India
Peak 09:04, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underhill et al: 20 groups based on Y chromosome
Talk:Frame bundle

message: I choose to emphasize the name fundamental rather than solder because of the following quote from Sharpe (Differential geometry, 1997, p.363):
[Fundamental forms] have also been called "canonical" or "solder" forms. The terminology depends on the context. When we are given the frame bundle of a manifold, the correct terminology is "fundamental" or "canonical" forms since, as described in the definition, they are canonically determined on the frame bundle. On the other hand, if we are given a principal bundle, then the "solder forms" are not canonical, but once they are given they allow us to uniquely identify this principal bundle with a bundle of frames so that the solder forms correspond to the restriction of the canonical forms. Thus, the solder forms allow us to "solder" (in the sense of "identify") the two bundles.
What do you think? -- Fropuff 16:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a reasonable point, although I would then say that the frame bundle therefore has a canonical (or tautological) solder form. Anyway, I don't feel strongly about it (although I think "canonical" and "tautological" are a bit more descriptive than "fundamental"), so do as you think best. Geometry guy 16:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fundamental vs. solder

message: : Actually, I'd rather see a diagram over at fiber bundle to be honest.  The discussion of bundle maps is far too short, and definitely needs to be fleshed out with a diagram.  But diagrams are a good thing in general, so why not put one here too. Silly rabbit 10:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  diagram needed
Talk:Mikuláš Dzurinda

message: I had permission!!! it was written in the bottom. 212.55.255.66
*Confirmation of permission letter sent 12 December 2003. Angela. 23:28, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide any proof of that? I haven't received any confirmation from the copyright holders. Angela. 15:53, Jan 4, 2004 (UTC)
IMHO: the list of politicians Mr. Dzurinda talked to in the section Other activities seems a bit redundant. JanSuchy 22:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Shouldn't it be also mentioned that he was a member of parliament in the infobox? stclaus (talk) 22:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MP
Talk:History of Seattle 1900–1940

message: Imaginably, we might want to juggle the organization of this and History of Seattle before 1900, making the gold rush rather than 1900 the divide. That might actually make more sense. However, I'm done for a while with major structural work here, and I leave that to someone else to think about. -- Jmabel 23:34, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Punter

message: From VFD:
* Punter Was a redirect to John (prostitution), which is clearly inappropriate. The vastly more common meaning is someone who bets on horse races (indeed, the local prostitution meaning is probably derived from this one), and it can also mean one who poles a boat in shallow water. None of these meanings are worthy of an encyclopedia entry. This is, after all, not a dictionary. Tannin 13:20, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There are three important uses of the word punter in British English, now listed.  All three are in common usage and at least one links here from Hillman Hunter, as a cockney rhyming slang term.
Can we please RETAIN the British uses for punter this time?! looking through the history, this has been deleted more than once - it is a VERY common word! - br
The word punter is used under horse racing - betting and should be cross referenced 
: Just because they're common words doesn't mean they have a place on a disambiguation page. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Disambiguation pages link only to other articles, and don't contain dictionary definitions. — Timwi 16:11, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  British English 

message: Could it be some sort of Anglo-Irish derivative, based on the old Irish currency?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_punt
Punt = Money
Punter = Person with Punts to spend (e.g. an Irish person at Cheltenham!)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.24.2 (talk) 08:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish Origin? 

message: This was the first instance of Eddy Groves appearing on this page. I am highly doubtful that this name should appear on this page, however.--Filll (talk | wpc) 21:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddy Groves 

message: Is "punter" really a ship type?  I've found one page  that uses it that way, but one could easily be just an error.  The article Dutch barge makes no mention of the word. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ship type? 

message: Just today, in reporting by a widely-respected organization:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35920299  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.104.88.146 (talk) 08:24, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  It means "customer of a prostitute"
Talk:Vera Wang

message: Imagine if her name was Vera Long Wang. --Mrwojo 14:42, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The Vera Wang head shot has been updated to a recent image as of 6/11/2015. Verawang2 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verawang2 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vera Wang updated headshot 

message: Regarding the definition tag of 'high society', I referred it to the article explaining it.--Vince0vince (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  High Society
Talk:Dershowitz–Finkelstein affair

message: In the "Additional points of dispute" section it needs to be added that Dershowitz falsely claimed, multiple times (most recently in November 2023), that Finkelstein's mother was a Nazi collaborator ("Kapo") during her time in the concentration camp. Aspidistrastillflying (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 8 May 2024 

message: Under "Support for Dershowitz" subsection, request to change: ""In the wake of a number of similar complaints against Dershowitz and two of his Harvard Law School colleagues Laurence Tribe and Charles Ogletree, former Harvard President Derek Bok conducted an investigation—the details of which were not made public—that... vindicated Dershowitz"" 
to
""In the wake of a number of similar complaints against Dershowitz and two of his Harvard Law School colleagues Laurence Tribe and Charles Ogletree, former Harvard President Derek Bok conducted an investigation—the details of which were not made public—that predictably vindicated Dershowitz"" Lucasballestin (talk) 12:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: . Why add the "predictably"? I don't think that follows our rules about neutrality in articles... Professor Penguino (talk) 01:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Not done: Per above. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 May 2024
Talk:Banca Transilvania

message: The Romanian original gave the initial capitalization of the bank as "2 miliarde lei". As I understand it, their "miliard" is our (US) "billion". I believe that in recent years the UK has mostly come around to share this US usage; I realize that historically the UK also used "milliard", with a UK "billion" being a thousand times larger than a US "billion".
I made my US$ translation based on the (unverified) assumption that in December 1993 there were about 2,000 Romanian lei to the US dollar. Someone may want to follow that up. -- Jmabel 01:42, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Scientific skepticism

message: It would be nice to find appropriate spots for the inclusion of these quotes:
* "The brightest flashes in the world of thought are incomplete until they have been proven to have their counterparts in the world of fact." - John Tyndall, physicist
* "It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence." - William Kingdon Clifford, mathematician and philosopher
* "A habit of basing convictions upon evidence, and of giving to them only that degree of certainty which the evidence warrants, would, if it became general, cure most of the ills from which this world is suffering." - Bertrand Russell, British polymath
Valjean (talk) 16:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevant quotes
Talk:Christie Hefner

message: Would you marry me a sub-atomic person?
I have had two open heart surgeries along with magic back surgery but I still have a lot to offer despite my set backs!!!   You are a very attractive woman…
Rick 2601:19B:C500:DC0:4CAF:E1FF:585A:7427 (talk) 09:48, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special plea
Talk:Thomas Mapfumo

message: I have adapted this from a write-up I posted on E2. See my e2 home node. Note that  E2 has just moved. Until DNS is updated it's here. - Dunhamrc 04:36, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: UPDATE:  I fixed those links that were fixable, which was most of them, and removed those that were not.
MorphismOfDoom (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links broken or spam
Talk:Mount Jefferson (Oregon)

message: I've lived in Oregon all my life (fifth generation Oregonian in fact), and have never heard of the "Williamette" River. There's a rather prominent N-S flowing river that runs most the length of the Willamette Valley and at Portland empties in to the Columbia River, but it's called the Willamette River (no "i" after the last "l").
Is "Williamette" a spelling that captures some important piece of historical context, or should the spelling be changed to accurately represent the river's name as it written absolutely everywhere today?
If there is some latent historical insight in calling it "Williamette," can someone please update the "Willamette River" article to document that fact? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.9.146.66 (talk) 23:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though there might be some latent historical insight into typographical errors or possible sarcasm about same, usually it's better to just fix things like that yourself. :) Katr67 16:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Williamette River?? 

message: I ran across this lovely image, :Image:Mt Jefferson Oregon.jpg, and thought it might be a good addition to the article, but I'm not sure we can justify three images and don't want to replace one without discussion. The image in the infobox is good since it shows the profile of the entire mountain. Thoughts? Katr67 16:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Three images would be a bit much. The infobox image is rather lacking in contrast and clarity, but I agree we should keep it until we can get a better image that shows the full profile. I'll try to get one next time I'm in the area. With regards to replacing :Image:Mount-Jefferson.jpg, I think :Image:Mt Jefferson Oregon.jpg shows more detail on the mountain itself while the snow cover contrasts nicely with the infobox image which shows the late summer appearance of the mountain. Of course, :Image:Mt Jefferson Oregon.jpg is my image, so I'm hardly unbiased. -- Headwes 21:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nice image to add?

message: "This was the only High Cascade mountain they named." It might be true that this is the only mountain the the range that they successfully named. If I remember correctly they named others as well but those mountains had already been named by the English and the new names did not stick. I'm not certain of my facts here but the statement certainly is ambiguous. I vote to remove it altogether. --DRoll (talk) 06:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed