Talk:Torpenhow Hill

message: There is no map in existence to my knowledge that identifies any such feature as "Torpenhow hill". In fact for the area, Torpenhow is in an unremarkably flat. Perpetuating this oft repeated but unexamined explanation should not be undertaken without at least a visit to the area and an examination of the local geography.
:--anon.
How about Google maps?
  http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=54.740126,-3.234023&spn=0.025,0.025&t=m&q=54.740126,-3.234023
Looks like some one is doing the "Proof by reference to someones blog" thing.
:And Google is better? Have you even looked at the map? There's no hill there. It's a ploughed field. The closest thing to a hill is a clump of trees between that point and the village. kwami (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Torpenhow Hill

message: found this 1878 ref to a ca. 1794 citation: , but I cannot find the quote in Hutchinson (I am perhaps looking in the wrong volume, as the page does not exist). Anyway, the exact wording would appear to be relevant here: Hutchinson is not reported to have said the name means exactly "HillHillHill Hill", and gives other possible etymologies, so this would appear to be a case of the best story winning out. Moreover, we do need to cite whether this is a parish that has a rise nearby which one could imagine is called T. Hill, or whether there really is a traditional T. Hill apart from this story. kwami (talk) 07:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1794 ref 

message: This page is really bad. I removed the introduction saying "Torpenhow Hill is at <some coordinates>", but really, it should be rewritten and we need some references. Jalwikip (talk) 20:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really bad 

message: No mention of the supposed Torpenhow Hill near Plymouth, with its supposed Cornish input? It's the one (if there is one) that springs to mind down this end of the country. Totnesmartin (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering the same. Mario Pei, whom Francis identifies as the originator of the factoid, also refers to a geographical feature (which he calls a ridge, to be precise) near Plymouth, not in Cumbria. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plymouth 

message: I noted the place name "Torpantau" on a modern Ordinance Survey map in the Brecon Beacons.
See the name applied to the slope north of the location of this former railway station:
Torpantau railway station
The spelling of the name is unchanged in the analogous 1800's map.
I'm not saying that Torpantau means hill-hill-hill,
I'm just saying that it's an alternate location, in Wales,
that sounds similar and could have contributed to the story.
Maybe a Welsh-speaker could suggest a translation.
::I'm very much a learner, quite limited so far. Tor, I assume, is "Rocky, steep, hill". I'm pretty sure "tor" comes from the Old Welsh "twr" (and therefore Cumbric and Cornish). "Pantau" to this beginner's eye may be the plural of "pant". Pant (to me) generally refers to a small stream ; think a brook in a dip. So "pantau" might mean "very small valleys, probably with streams". Mongoletsi (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torpantau 

message: video by Tom Scott https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUyXiiIGDTo&feature=youtu.be 202.7.248.39 (talk) 05:58, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another reference