Talk:Scouting and Guiding in Ukraine

message: Can anyone identify the coat of arms inside this  Scout logo? It is Ukrainian but clearly Russian-speaking. Chris 05:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: which organization?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ukraine YMCA scouts.jpg

message: The Ukrainian Plast organization recently held a seminar on international Scouting, including work within WAGGGS (!) and WOSM . The website promotes participation in upcoming international Scouting events  - all events are WAGGGS/WOSM-only. If you look closely, you will find some people with the World Scout Emblem on some of the pictures.
The 2014 membership data for Ukraine is strange  since it shows 1,195 members in WOSM plus 3,345 other members - there is no other NSO with more non-Scouting members than Scouts. 
By all appearances, Plast is still cooperating with NOSU.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plast has its own article and WPMOS has Kiev 

message: I replaced the source only, which does _not_ support User:Tokach's membership inflation nor reordering of the list--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:00, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Kintetsubuffalo, I suggest to order those list it in proper way. For example, in alphabetic. Also, we need to order it according to organizations structure. For example, Plast is not subdivision of Luhanska OOS, also SPOK is not and SICH is not member or part of LOOP.
Also, I'm interested in representing in gallery emblem of Plast. User:Kintetsubuffalo  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tokach (talk • contribs) 13:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to the User:Jergen it is arranged by the A-Z. But it is still not correct, because PLAST was one of Foundators of NOSU. But it is not member of NOSU. Membership in NOSU is individual, only part of PLAST members belongs to NOSU.
So it is incorrect that SICH, SPOK and PLAST is marked under NOSU list item.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tokach (talk • contribs) 08:34, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia must be sourced, if you have a source that shows that Plast is not now a member of NOSU, or that membership in NOSU is individual, (a strange arrangement not followed in any other country), please produce that source. Also, the emblem of Plast is at the Plast article. Wikipedia discourages overuse of non-free images.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You can read about this at NOSU page. It once again shows that you are not expert in thіs (current ukrainian scouting situation) field. I can't copy other articles so you will be satisfied. Also I don't know how to source obvious facts that I can observe here and you can not. For example, you can simply compare total members number in each organizations and decide are they all connected in one NOSU or not.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tokach (talk • contribs) 15:14, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

text:  Also about emblem — I changed it to other file that is on wiki for a longer time, ok...Tokach (talk) 15:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

text: Please keep your comments WP:CIVIL. There's no sense in you barking at me-my English is better than yours, and unlike you, I know how to sign my comments, but I don't snap at you about it. Wikipedia's rules are here for a reason.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Barking? Be polite if you mention wp civil... The point is that you don't need to know english perfect in this theme, you need to be in process to know what is it about. I wish sometimes you will know ukrainian as i know english or even better if you are so interest in eastern european scouting, so you can read local news not in russian. And maybe in this case you will find no evidence of existing rusyn scouts for example...  Others can make proofreading after facts are placed. wp civil also means that you not irritate other users with cancelling instead of constructive dialogue first. And what did you do?  As you can see, at last we have my first change in general. You are too seriuos to rules not to facts. We can always wikificate article later or sooner but as for me facts matter more than proper formatting, sourcing and signing. It can be added later. Also, after bot signs my answers few times I learned how to sign by myself and did it at my last comment, i don't see problem with this. But wait there is mister Rule and he see the problem )) Tokach (talk) 09:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Tokach]]'s membership inflation and reordering of list