Talk:Newar people

message: I have a belief that the first paragraph is not clear whether Newar is a liguistic, ethnic, or ethnolinguistic group. All of you who agree raise your hands, please. [Please stay silent if uncertain and donot feed the trolls.] Kushal one 18:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Aryan/Mongoloid?

message: I think it's not the same thing, but it is difficult to see this in the article which mentions foods and spices that many different ethnic groups use.  I never lived in a Newar community, but I think they eat a lot of buffalo meat, which Bahuns and Chhetris avoid.  Also beaten rice ("Chyura").  76.80.9.100 09:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not just Buffalo meat. The Baji has different varieties out of which Chyura or Simple Baji is just one. There are different varieties of wines (thwon, aila), sweets (anarsha, laakhaamari, nimki, roth, maalpa, gwaaraamari), delicacies (chatamari, baaraa), meat items(chhwelaa, kachilaa, haku chhwelaa etc) and many more. Quite interestingly, from my side of the world, how is it same to what the bahuns and chhetris eat? They are very different lest you take them down to the level of amino acid, glycogen and fatty acids!--Eukesh 13:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newar food - how is it different from what Bahuns and Chhetris eat? 

message: Can this difference please be clarified?  
Also I think Newar culture subverts strict Hinduism in many ways:  eating "Chyura" to avoid caste issues when eating, the ceremony where girls are married to a tree, which gets around the Hindu notion that women should only marry once and should be burnt along with their husband! 76.80.9.100 09:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many readers won't understand that Nepal Bhasa and Nepali are very different! 

message: This is what used to be there (where I edited in a citation needed inline note) within brackets:  " Central Bureau of Statistics, Ramshah Path, Kathmandu, Nepal: Statistical Pocket Book Nepal 2002 " But it led nowhere. Ed8r (talk) 20:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source cited #3 

message: what is the source of this?
"Newar reign over the valley and their sovereignty and influence over neighboring territories ended approximately 250 years ago with the conquest of the Kathmandu valley in 1769 by the Gorkhali Shah dynasty founded by Prithvi Narayan Shah. Newars were engaged in business between Tibet and Moguls in India. So, to affect the Mogul empire's treasury, British East India Company supplied weapons and advice to Prithvi Narayan Shah, who in return would conquer Kathmandu Valley and put an end to the trade between Tibet and Moguls of India. Systematic brutal suppression of the Newar people was pursued for generations during early dynastic rule in order to discourage the Newar people from any political aspiration."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.41.241.159 (talk) 16:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source missing??

message: Newars are such diverse group in terms of ethnic origin. It would be better to put the title as "Newa Nation" rather than "Newa People"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.199.14.195 (talk) 00:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newa People? Wrong title 

message: Someone has been inserting profanities ( words and line ). I deleted a word, a line, a link and a line in in Vietnamese. Please be vigilant and delete and maybe "confront"/report the coward/s.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobbyCtkr (talk • contribs) 02:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone is " Vandalizing  " the Newa page of Wikipedia 

message: Greetings to all my predecessors who have worked so hard on this article. I believe it is a major subject; and considering its size and scope, maintaining absolute coherence is very difficult. I have tried to clean up things here and there, and will continue to do so. I would like to hear your comments. Also, I would stress on online references. The title of the article is also a subject for discussion. Karrattul (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's improve it 

message: I propose deleting the sectons Notable Newas, Newar Prime-Minister and Newar Politicians for the following reasons: notability not established, list would be too long, irrelevant and undue emphasis on politics. Karrattul (talk) 11:11, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletion 

message: Replacement with Newah everywhere is factually and etymologically incorrect. For example, what sense does this sentence make after being replaced with Newah? "According to another explanation, the words Newah and Newah are vulgarisms arising from the mutation of P to V, and L to R.[12]" Where are the "P to V, and L to R"? 
Also, the reference cited has been misrepresented by the replacements. So reverting to old version. Karrattul (talk) 06:20, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newah 

message: This article is currently a redirect, as the content was at first simply a copypaste from other articles here, apparently not enough to warrant a full article on its own, and then recreated as content without any references. anyone who wants to create an article on Newa Hinduism should start in their user space, build up sourced content that shows its justification as an article separate from both the Newa People and Hinduism, then replace the redirect with that material and add the "main article" template to this article. I dont doubt that material exists on this subject, but the content should first be sourced, before being added.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Newa Hinduism]]

message: What is the source of the follwing passage:
As part of the funeral, offerings are made to the spirit of the deceased, the crow and the dog. The crow and the dog represent ancestors and the god of death. Subsequently, offerings and rituals are conducted four, seven, eight, 13 and 45 days following death and monthly for a year and then annually.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.211.162.42 (talk) 13:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Source needed!

message: Exactly when did the Newa people convert to Buddhism and Hinduism? All I got is this Anything Buddhism Today: Theravada Buddhist Movement in Nepal article that doesn't cite any sources. Komitsuki (talk) 11:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Found the source. Engaged Buddhism (THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF THERAVĀDA BUDDHIST UNIVERSITIES). Komitsuki (talk) 13:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religions of Newa people 

message: Hi,I am joan. I saw that this article writes that some newars came from indoaryan community.why is this written?If this is only the case with some newars having their nose slightly pointed then what about tamang,kirat,some magars,west tibetan.they also have got pointed nose.it seems some nonnewar changed their caste into newar.on the basis of that Newars shouldn't be mistaken.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan lama (talk • contribs) 10:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Aryan" was missourced. I deleted it. Also, I don't see a reason for Aryans to shift to a Sino-Tibetian language. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 22:53, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: NEWARS ARE MOSTLY BLOODLY MONGOLIAN AND TIBETAN

message: Merge into festivals section? This isn't sourced and I cannot find it online. I'm not sure if this is a misspelling of Pahan_Charhe. As I'm not Nepalese myself, making this merge request with the hopes that some expert might see this page and make a better decision on what should happen to this stub. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 04:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Paanch Chare]] 

message: 106.51.132.199 (talk) has been vandalizing this page along with the following pages: Shrestha, Shresthas, Newar Caste System with racially inciteful statements with absolutely no references. He has also performing an edit war 
Hope the moderators look upon this and partake a response to that user.
Fut.Perf. ☼Ogress smash! 
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thread_title: Someone is Vandalizing this page 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Newar]] for deletion 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Neawri 27.34.49.5 (talk) 03:20, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am raj 

message: There is no consistency, but Newar predominates here:
*Newar people
*Newar language
*Newar Buddhism
*Newar Islam
*Newar art
*Newar literature
*Newar numerals
*Newar traditional clothing
*Newar caste system
*Newar window
*Newa Hinduism
*Newa architecture
*Newa music
*Newa dance
*Newa cuisine
*Newa festivals
Is there a reason to prefer one or the other? Should the Newa articles be moved? Srnec (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newar or Newa? 

message: Defining Newar people as Tibeto-Burman ethinc group oversimplfies newar people's complexity. Newar is a ethnolinguisgtic group, so categorising it to one group is not correct and its quite controversial. The older version of text was written by historian Gellner, David N., so I don't what is the problem with that text. Newars are a linguistic and cultural community of primarily Indo-Aryan and Tibeto-Burman ethnicities and shares Nepal Bhasa as their common language. The edit war will be start because neither Nepalese hisotrians nor people are agreed about newar people being a one ethnic groups. The complete advanced research has not been done yet so putting it to older version is non-controversial and better. 2600:8806:4004:4300:20CD:C9F6:B8B0:3661 (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: "Newar" are a Tibeto-Burman "ethnolinguistic" or ethnic group because "Nepal Language" is their native language which clearly falls under Tibeto-Burman branch of the Sin-Tibetan language family. 103.42.156.130 (talk) 07:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It is true that the Newar people speak a language that falls under the Tibeto-Burman branch, but their ethnic identity is complex and multifaceted. However, ethnicity is more than just language; it also involves cultural, historical and social factors. Newars have a unique cultural identity that is shaped by their history, geography and interactions with various groups, including Indo-Aryan and Tibeto-Burman populations. Newars have a historical and social identity that cannot be reduced to a single linguistic classification. In fact, Newars have been shaped by a variety of influences, including Indo-Aryan, Tibeto-Burman and other cultural and linguistic traditions, making it important to recognise and respect their self-identity and cultural distinctiveness, and not define them only by their language. 2600:8806:4004:4300:597F:FFA:366C:736D (talk) 22:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic group