Talk:Rodeo

message: Proposing that the new article Rodeo cattle be merged into Rodeo. Tim Pierce (talk) 00:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there really any information worth merging? - Josette (talk) 03:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not much, but there sure isn't enough information for its own article. :-) Tim Pierce (talk) 04:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't agree more. ;) - Josette (talk) 04:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems there's been a consensus to merge the article, but nothing has been done. I'll go ahead and be bold now... Steven Walling 21:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
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message: The claim that "Today, the PRCA and other rodeo sanctioning organizations have stringent regulations to ensure rodeo animals' welfare. Insinuates that these regulations are effective in doing just that - ensuring rodeo animals' welfare. However the published science, the expert opinions as printed in copious media sources, and the very real fact that many animals are injured so badly at rodeos every year that they are actually killed, demonstrates this claim to be completely biased rubbish. I can only imagine the PRCA is gatekeeping this article because it is awfully unbalanced and embarrassingly so. Read Prof. Clive Phillips work on rodeo. The scientific and professional consensus from SPCA's and veterinary associations accross the world is that rodeos cause distress and harm to the animals subject to the events. You can't claim welfare is ensured while animals are dropping dead multiple times per season. Broken backs, broken legs in bulls, another dead horse today at the NZ national champs...Whatever the source is that claims regulations ensure welfare is adequately considered ought to be cited to mean precisely what the author of this article then insinuates it to mean, with their chosen wording. Otherwise word the sentence properly so that it doesn't misrepresent the source, or remove the source and the entire sentence. Something needs to be done with it. CanisLupisArctus (talk) 07:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very biased editors of this page...Balanced information drastically needed 

message: Ok, so I tried to add new information and edit out some that was unfounded, but the moderator erased them all.
First I want to take out Spain as having influence in the rodeo, as the rodeo has nothing to do with the cattle herding techniques used in that European country. They never did any roundups because the amount of cattle in Spain was really small compared to Mexico’s. They didn’t need roundups or rodeos, the had transhumance and could move their cattle to a corral. Second there is no roping, bull-riding, trick roping, etc. done in Spain, it is not part of their tradition. 
I want to add more information about the history of the rodeo, how and why it started. I want to add the actual first laws of the rodeo in Mexico during the 1500’s. I would also like to add the first description ever of a Rodeo. All my sources are legit, some sources are books dating back to the 17th and 18th centuries.— Preceding unsigned comment added by nortekman (talk • contribs) 
The first laws regulating a primitive form of rodeo were passed by Viceroy Luis de Velasco on October 16th 1551, just for the valley of Toluca. The law stated: “That the owners of the ranches be counted and be obliged to have with every two thousand cows a Spanish guard and four blacks or Indians, two on horseback and the other two on foot, so that they are careful to collect and surround a day in each week the cattle in the estancia, under penalty of twenty gold pesos for each time they did not do it and find themselves without the said people and guard” 
The second law of the rodeo was passed by Viceroy Martin Enriquez, for all cattle ranching regions in the country, on January 25th 1574: “That in each cattle estancia, from the day of San Juan in June until the middle of of November of each year, in each week, in the areas and places that by said justice they are commanded and appointed, they be obliged to do, and do it, a rodeo of the cattle and horses. And all the others from the other regional cattle estancias where it would be convenient to make such a rodeo, are forced to come out, and help do the rodeo, so that each one can take out the cattle that bears their brand and take it back to their estancia. As the said Rodeo is going on, by law, between the estancias, under penalty of doing the opposite: being Spanish or mestizo, ten pesos of common gold, applied according to Mesta ordinances; and being black, mulatto, or quadroon, they shall be given a hundred lashes”
The first description of a Rodeo was done by Don Juan Suarez de Peralta in his book “Libro de Albeitería” written between 1575 and 1580: “to take the cattle, they build false corrals towards the area they have fled and they gather many men on horseback and using this technique they capture them, and, as I have said few, because there are also tamed horses called corraliegos in great quantity; that there are many who have more than a thousand mares, and the ones who seem to have the least has five hundred, two hundred, and that’s nothing, because there is so much cattle, that there are men who have 150,000 cows, and  20,000 is little, and many are cimarronas and the most are rodeo ones, that are so made to it, it is the only way to know who they belong to. And these Rodeos are done this way: that more than three hundred horsemen of all the cattle barons gather for a day that they indicate and that land they call Valles is very flat and depopulated of towns where they have to chase the meek cattle, especially in the San Juan valley in the Chichimecas, who are untamed hostile Indians who have never been conquered, and they do a lot of damage both in killing people and in burning the houses, that over there they call Estancias, where the cowboys live and have their corrals to enclose some cattle to brand” — Preceding unsigned comment added by nortekman (talk • contribs) 
I’ve edited and added new information, historical texts, sources, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by nortekman (talk • contribs) 
::Some of your material is useful, some of it is not. The images are excessive and mostly unneeded. Your description of "rodeo" is simply a description of cattle management, not competition. (May be worth discussing the etymology of the word, though) Cattle herding traditions DID come from Spain and rodeo traditions arose from the practices on working ranches.  You need to take a look at WP:RS and WP:V and add material that is properly sourced. Montanabw(talk) 05:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rodeo Origin and History