Talk:Kalinka (1860 song)

message: I did a horrible job of adding Kalinka to the Russian site.  I hope someone can do it justice. Or maybe find the right link. --Jake 23:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: I can find no other reference to Ivan Petrovich Larionov apart from what looks identical to the wikipedia article or a tangential reference to the music used in Tetris. Did he really write it or is it the 19th century equivalent of "sampling", taking an existing folk tune and arrangeing it for theatrical performance. Did he even exist or is it an in joke perpetrated by Tetris fans?
152.91.9.9 03:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who wrote it???? 

message: I've added a 'tone' tag to this article, as it's too 'chatty' in lexical style. Also requires cleanup and additional references. Cheers! Mickthefish | Talk 07:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added 'tone' tag 

message: I'm sorry to bother people here, but I have a question--and perhaps a suggestion... I don't speak Russian, just Polish, so I don't know if this will hold true for Russian, but in Polish, terms like "malina" or "kalina" are sometimes used to refer to young human females or little girls. If the same is true in Russian, then I really don't think it would hurt to include a footnote to that effect in the English translation section. (Again, if the Russian double meaning is overlaps with Polish) I don't think it's really all THAT complicated, and including such a footnote would add to English speakers' comprehension of the song.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.209.222 (talk) 19:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kalina/Malina 

message: I may want to change the transliteration when it says:
Kalinka, Kalinka, Kalinka moya... I had russian courses and I know that when you use the o and it is not followed by a strong thingamajig, you should say a instead of o, but still write an o.
It would be more like:
Kalinka, Kalinka, Kalinka maya.
Maybe some1 who speaks russian will be able to part this  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.58.162.190 (talk) 22:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Transliteration 

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message: some time ago i added on the popular culture that kalinka is used as the ending theme of the ova labyrinth of flames, and someone had the NERVE to put "citation needed".
heres the ending for part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ14lyxj6xs
part 2 also has the song, just different video.
since i cant edit for shit, can someone who knows how to, put it as the citation?KRISHANKO (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  labyrinth of flames ending 

message: There is currently a disagreement (see article editing history) as to whether Kalinka is a folk song or not. I agree that in the West folk song is a genre. However, what we now have in the West strongly reflects the 1960s and 1970s folk music movement. The history of folk song in Russia and Soviet Russia has been different. They missed out on the Western 60s and 70s movement, and a difference is seen there between traditional music passed on orally, and music which has been composed in the same style for commercial use, e.g. concert performance and recordings. I have been told categorically by a prominent member of the Alexandrov Ensemble (the best-known performers of the song) that Kalinka is not a folk song but a composed song in that style. Additionally, Kalinka became known primarily as an operatic song (performed as a musical joke, perhaps, but now has a life of its own) quite early on. My point is that there is more than one way of viewing this song, depending on where you come from. I suggest that it should be called a "song", not a "folk song" in the header, because "song" covers all views. Storye book (talk) 08:32, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  * You are entitled to your opinion, but my point is that there is more than one opinion on this, so that it makes sense to call it a "song" in the header, rather than a folk song. The song has become something else since it was written, due to the intentions, style and genre of its best-known recorded performances over the past 100 years. I suggest that we change the header to "... is a Russian song written in 1860 by the composer and folklorist Ivan Larionov in the style of a folk song ...". That should satisfy everyone. Storye book (talk) 17:08, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Kalinka: folk song or not?