Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/The Protomen (second nomination)

message: :I didn't say anything about all the new editor's votes... there may be exceptions... but if you look at some of the editors that voted keep, they have no edits anywhere else on Wikipedia... I do not believe someone should be judged just by their edit count (hell, look at me, 3000+ edits now, and still a noob)... I just think it's slightly suspicious that this went up for deletion, and within the next couple days several people "just happened" to register, and "just happened" upon this article's deletion page... 
:If you were registered before this artcile was tagged AfD, and you are making other edits to Wikipedia other than just arguing to keep this article, then you are not part of this group... if you just registered since this article went up for AfD, and your only edits are to this page, you are one of the suspicious ones... not that my opinion is worth more than the pixels it is drawn with, but as the old saying goes, "If it quacks like a duck..."
:Furthermore, this is not an arguement about how many people from how far away know about the band, or what their plans may be in the future... this should be a straight-forward vote as to whether this band does or does not currently qualify for inclusion in Wikipedia based on the standards at WP:MUSIC...
:P.S. my existance has been questioned several times, a number of editors have thought that I was a bot... ;)
::- Have fun, and happy editing... - Adolphus79 16:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your message Adolphus79. I do have my first question for you, however. Unlike the discussion page here, I was attempting to respond to you via our user talk channels and noticed I could not edit yours. I found no sign of a button to do so, oddly enough (the edit this page at the top even vanished). I can view source, but the page for some reason is "protected". Should I just respond to you in my own talk box? Draxis 19:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: aye... my talk is protected currently from anons and new editors due to my counter vandalism work... lots of people hate me... LOL - Adolphus79 19:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On New Editors and Notability 

message: *I must say, this was not a very good first time Wiki editor experience. In my opinion, as someone said to me in regards to this place once before, it's really the polar opposite of the justice system. Guilty until proven innocent? I believe we established at least gray area of notability, but as it was some of you who wanted this article deleted so badly it should have been you whom provided valid arguments. None, not one, were left. The Mix Article was attacked a few times, but beyond that NO valid argument or explanation was left in regards to the reason WHY it's not notable per the resources we provided. I would be a bit more understanding had this been a two-sided debate, but it wasn't. It was a half-debate and the other side voting. I was informed this wasn't a vote, though now I have to wonder. I'm not angry because we lost the article, I'm much more angry that the people that participate in this would be so eager to destroy. I was really looking forward to getting to write a few articles and mark my place on the Wikimap, but I suspect at this point most of my interests would simply be deleted. Draxis 13:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Argument Ever Presented