Talk:Elâzığ/Archive 1

message: I could not find a relation between Elazig and Armenian genocide, which is never accepted by modern Turkish Republic. If you are referring to Armenian sites and historians than you must add similar statements to most of the German+Polish+Italien cities about Holocaust.
I found the sentence as an indication of an anger, which must be related with the writer's possible armenian historical histeria. Armenians betrayed to their state by supporting Russian and French armies against Ottomans. They killed hundreds of thousands of Turkish civilians to justify their population dominancy. What can be the response of a state in 19th century? Armenians are forced to leave to another part of the country. Most of them escaped to France/Australia where they look happy. If they were still in Turkey, they were begging to Europians just to be accepted to EU where most of them are already in now. That is not a genocide but must be an "expulsion". I think the Armenians must understand what they have done is not an acceptable behaviour. If Armenians want to understand what a "genocide" is, then they must read about Holocoust, Holodomor and Ruandan Genocides. Bernard..
: What does all of this have to do with the article? If something important happened in this city and it can be cited, it should be noted. --Awiseman 16:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The anon (residing in Istanbul) who posted that message also made this edit. That info is still in the article, but I have commented it out as it needs a source. —Khoikhoi 17:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian citations 

message: A city which the Kurdish population form the majority.
:Source? --Awiseman 19:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Elazg is a unofficial Kurdish city 

message: Cleaned up the page, if anybody needs to clarify things, please do, as some was a little hard to understand.  
Also, the Catholic Encyclopedia says the kings were Armenian, not Assyrian. --Awiseman 17:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where's the vandalism? —Khoikhoi 19:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up 

message: The Elazig Today section says
"Elazığ is the capital of the Elazığ province. The Armenian Catholic diocese numbers 3000 parishioners, 8 parishes, 6 churches, 3 chapels, 14 stations, and 14 primary schools, chiefly at Kharput-Mezré and Malatia. There are about 72,000 Christians throughout the vilayet, which contains about 600,000 inhabitants. The Armenian Protestants have a large American mission at Kharput, which is the headquarters of all those in Armenia.
Note: The above information is unlikely to be about Elazig today, seeing as all the Armenians of the area were deported in the Armenian Genocide of 1915. The churches and schools written about were destroyed and there would be no community left to fill the 8 parishes written about. Also there are no Armenian Protestants to speak of outside Istanbul, so the notion that they would have a large mission in Elazig is highly suspect. Seeing as Turkey blockades Armenia it would be impossible to have a headquarters for all of Armenia in a separate country that has no contact with it. This "Elazig today" section seems to be talking about a time pre-genocide.[citation needed]"
That needs to be fixed. --Awiseman 18:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix Elazig today section 

message: Elazığ City no Kürdish. Elazığ of people Zaza and Turkish.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.251.128.34 (talk) 04:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I have removed the sentence A large number of the Gregorian and Protestant Armenian clergy and people were massacred, and churches, monasteries and houses were looted. as unreferenced for almost two years. The information can be readded if a reliable source is cited. Regards, Kafka Liz (talk) 23:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of unsourced information 

message: I think it would be appropriate to remove the redlinks from the "Notable natives" section. These would of course be welcome back once the notability of the individuals had been established by an article. Perhaps members of both Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey and Wikipedia:WikiProject Armenia could add the redliked names to their respective requested article lists. Are there any objections to my removing the redlinks? Aramgar (talk) 21:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just did it. Additionally, I've put the individuals in alphabetical order, which I believe makes more sense than by placing them into Armenian and Turkish lists. The page still needs editing. Ordtoy (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done. Thanks. Aramgar (talk) 13:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They were in " Armenian and Turkish lists" because an editor had deleted all the Armenian names. I had reinserted those names but hadn't bothered to merge them into alphabetical order because I had doubts about the validity of some of the names on both lists. Meowy 16:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had myself attempted earlier to remove the red links  and alphabetise the list . I'm glad to have some additional input here. Regarding the "stone age", I've found a couple of good articles on Elâzığ in JSTOR (also a lot of material on early 20th century epidemics; seems there was a lot of cholera there), including one that may support the uncited sentence removed above. I'll post more information when I have it. Cheers, Kafka Liz (talk) 01:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable redlinks

message: maybe NOT from Mamuretülaziz! Everyone says: Mamuretülaziz > El Aziz > Elazığ. But the name of this region was "Alzi" at the time of the Hittites. Atatürk changed the name from Elaziz to Elazığ. but why? Elazığ doesn't mean anything! (Maybe the people of this region already called it Elzi /Elzığ which came from the ancient name Alzi!) Böri (talk) 09:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alzi > Elazığ? 

message: Don't add information to wikipedia thats sourced from alternative language wikis.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.242.217.79 (talk) 13:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia