Talk:Gun laws in the United States by state

message: Back on January 1st -- see above -- I suggested the following way to standardize the row headers for concealed and open carry:   I think I'm going to go ahead and start changing the state tables that don't already conform to that.  But, as several editors have pointed out, there may be some states where this is not the best approach, so we should not strictly enforce this.  — Mudwater (Talk) 22:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in the middle of doing this, and I think it's working out quite well.  Here are a few notes: (1) In the concealed carry row, I'm putting "N/A" for long guns. (2) I'm trying to use the term "permit" or "license" based on what term the state government uses.  (3) Again, I think that standardizing the tables in this way is helpful, but if it's better for a particular state table not to follow this pattern, that's fine, I think.  — Mudwater (Talk) 22:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, all done. — Mudwater (Talk) 23:56, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Row headers for concealed and open carry 

message: Please, add a comparison in the form of a common table, such or similar:
http://wykop.ginden.pl/gun_law_america.html
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolvverine (talk • contribs) 18:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compare in one table 

message: What is "Duty to inform"?  The state articles and :Concealed carry in the United States do not explain. – S. Rich (talk) 19:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duty to inform 

message: A map of "Minimum age to purchase a long gun by state" was added to the top of the article recently, here.  I'm going to remove that, because it gives undue weight to just one of the many aspects of gun laws by state.  Though purchase age for long guns is a topic of current discussion, the article should not over-emphasize that subject.  And as a secondary issue, that map may not be completely accurate. — Mudwater (Talk) 10:00, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a real reason to remove it: none of the individual tables offer that info to begin with. Unless someone wants to add that to each and every table, I think the map should remain. I mean "Gun laws in the United States" is whole purpose of the article is it not? So I don't see your angle here. If anything it gives readers a more direct insight before looking at the tables. Maybe a better "solution" would be the map of CCW states instead? It's much more general and common topic in gun ownership communities, since no one walks around in a grocery store with an AR-15, or other rifle. AirNinja (talk) 15:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I was planning on making another map for handguns too by the way. Also you could argue that the map on Capital punishment in the United States gives too much emphasis on the aspect of what the status of the penalty is in each state and not the mode of execution, among other things, although I do understand your point. Fluffy89502 (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the page does not list what the minimum ages to purchase long guns are which is why I added this map in the first place. I came to this page to learn what the minimum ages for that were and could not find it and the information was difficult to find on other sites so I decided to make the map. Fluffy89502 (talk) 20:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I appreciate your efforts, but adding the map gives undue emphasis to just that one aspect of gun laws -- the minimum age for buying rifles or shotguns.  So as not to give our readers the mistaken impression that there are one, or a few, gun laws that are more important than others, it's better for this article not to include any maps.  As for the idea of adding the minimum age to purchase or possess long guns or handguns to the summary tables for the state articles, that would be fine, in my opinion. — Mudwater (Talk) 21:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Another thing:   has some minimum ages below 18, but according to this ATF page, the minimum age is 18 under federal law.  So 18 would seem to be the national minimum age.  — Mudwater (Talk) 21:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi.  It's me again.  I've gone ahead and added "minimum age to purchase or possess" to the state summary table for Illinois, here.  Edited to add:  In the map it says that the minimum age to purchase a long gun in Illinois is 21, but that's incorrect.  Note that people under the age of 21 can get a FOID card (state permit to possess) with permission from their parent or guardian.  — Mudwater (Talk) 22:11, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

text: It may be 18 to posses under federal law but local police are state police officers. They only enforce state law and if there is no minimum age to possess a gun under state law that officer will not do anything since they do not have the authority to enforce federal law and vice versa. Fluffy89502 (talk) 23:55, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Also I just finished uploading a map on handgun purchase age and finished but have yet to upload a map on long gun possession age. Fluffy89502 (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of minimum purchase age of long guns 

message: The very first Map should be Updated after New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, there is no May-issue States anymore. 67.170.255.241 (talk) 10:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Map