Talk:Spanish orthography

message: "The letters b and v were originally simply known as be and ve. However, as Spanish doesn't distinguish between these sounds, it is necessary to add something to the names to tell them apart. "
This is completely false. The prnounciation of "b" and "v" are different. The problem is that the sounds are so closely related that people get confused. "B" is pronounced using both lips, while "V" is pronounced with the lower lip touching the upper teeth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.142.220 (talk) 09:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What Spanish-speaking region are you from, or what dialect do you speak?  In the dialects I have heard, vaca is pronounced with both lips and no teeth, while cabeza is pronounced with the lower lip touching the upper teeth.  That is, the pronunciation doesn't depend on whether the letter is b or v, but on whether the letter is the first in the word or between vowels.  Rod (A. Smith) 17:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: 'Something funny with their pronunciation'? I suppose you laugh at the TV every time you watch the news, it's the standard pronunciation in Mexico... Mr KEBAB (talk) 01:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Care to provide citations? This looks like a description of a strongly non-standard pronunciation, or perhaps a regional standard (Paraguayan Spanish?). Mr KEBAB (talk) 01:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: To see what the Royal Academy's Diccionario panhispánico de dudas says about b and v, go to <http://lema.rae.es/dpd/?key=v> and read section 3, the paragraph that begins with "No existe en español diferencia alguna en la pronunciación de las letras b y v." Where is the corresponding documentation of a b/v contrast? Kotabatubara (talk) 12:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  b and v 

message: I just created this by moving out the text from Spanish language#Writing system. Spanish orthography redirects here. However, silly me, I didn't check beforehand that Spanish alphabet is already a full article, with content overlapping this one all over the place. I'm requesting a merge (into this one, since the title seems to cover more ground that "alphabet"). --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 12:54, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger request

message: Who did the original IPA on this page?  It's a mess.  I'm going in and fixing it. Should have it done today but if not don't revert without a reason for the insane number of diacriticals (which, even if they had much to do with the Spanish system, for simply giving the name of letters in a language with as many dialects as Spanish is rather overkill).  Every single a is listed as ä, which whilst technically is centralised as realised in Spanish, it's not normal represented as such in IPA (just a normal a does fine).  Ditto for e, which is always shown as being lowered, the s as laminal (which is simply s, except in Castilian where it is apico-dental).  The t doesn't need a dental diacritic -- it's already dental, and since it doesn't contrast we don't need it mentioned.  The g is only in certain dialects and in certain conditions realised as ɰ, but that doesn't happen in the word grande (in bueno, as güeno, it is).  *sigh*  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guifa (talk • contribs) 22:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA mess 

message: Translate the Spanish word "corta" into English. (It says that "ve corta" is a name of v.) Georgia guy 01:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corta 

message: I learned R as ere, without the trill, and RR as erre, with the trill. It isn't doble erre. 67.188.172.165 18:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, letter R's name is erre, and RR is said to be doble erre. --Mariano(t/c) 13:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, according to the RAE's dictionary on-line, either one of them serves as the letter's name. Benami (talk) 09:33, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: rr vs r

message: Si is definitelly not a preposition. It literally translates to if, wich is a sentence conjunction. I'm reverting Blindman shady's edit. --Mariano(t/c) 12:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If is both a conjunction and a preposition, now that I think about it.If you die, I will be sad. If is a preposition with the object "you". That is regardless though, so I will leave it as is.Blindman shady 18:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SI 

message: I understand that these two digraphs are no longer supposed to be treated as individual letters in collation, but I think this is different from not belonging to the alphabet. I think they should be included in the list of letters. FilipeS 17:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was under the impression that they were no longer considered letters.  Even if they aren't, though, I see above that others feel that they should still be included in the table.  It's funny, because even as I was reverting, I was thinking "it's too bad we can't put this here because otherwise we're not indicating the pronunciation of the letters."  I'll leave it to others to determine the status of these digraphs as letters and the only thing that I'll be changing is the  under <ll> since the IPA representations are only for Castilian Spanish (per the IPA link in the table).  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 07:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

text: this is not easily understood.. as per RAE in the link on the page for CH: Dígrafo que, por representar un solo sonido, es considerado desde 1803 cuarta letra del abecedario español -- that is to say, 1. it is a digraph, 2. it is a letter, as it is a single letter corresponding to a single sound, and 3. it is explicitly a part of the alphabet (see, for example, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortografía_del_español ). See also the page in spanish for Ll and Ch ("El dígrafo ch es la cuarta letra..."). But in the orthography of español, the RAE changes the rules and calles the diagraphs not part of the alphabet. --— robbiemuffin page talk 20:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ch and Ll 

message: Spanish orthography (the alphabet, punctuation and orthographic rules of the Spanish language) is largely derived from a combination of Latin and Arabic, as well as the influence of other Iberian languages.
This remark in the intro sounds absurd. If no one steps up to defend it, I think I will remove it. FilipeS 15:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a fallacy. Spanish alphabeth has no Arabic influence. Arabic has only influenced some of the Spanish vocabulary. Spanish uses the Latin Alphabet in addition with some letters borrowed from the Greek (e.g.k, w). And the ñ is a unique letter created by Spanish not Arabic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.10.214 (talk) 04:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On a tenuously-related note, I have wondered if the long history of Moorish rule in Iberia helped deracinate Spanish orthography.  During this period, was Spanish commonly written, and in the Latin alphabet?  I know that Spanish was at least sometimes written in the Arabic alphabet.  Or did it become for a period merely the vernacular, spoken language, with Arabic the sole language of administration?  Either way, if it ceased to be commonly written in the Latin alphabet, then the etymological history would have been severely weakened by the time the Latin alphabet was resumed, and that could have encouraged the tendency towards phonemic orthography.  Anyway, I just wondered if anyone knows of any literature on such a topic.  -- χγʒ͡ʒγʋᾳ (talk) 00:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

text: What do you mean by 'deracinate'? FilipeS (talk) 14:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Largely a combination of Latin and Arabic"? 

message: Regarding the use of x in words like México, RAE does recomend the use of x instead of j  (In Spanish). I have made a little change in the article. Cpt.Miller (talk) 12:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  X and J 

message: Is it crazy to want to see the basic Spanish phonemic values next to the letters?
* Spanish orthography - Shows a chart of letters, but not the phonemes they represent
* Spanish phonology - Shows the phonemes, but not the letters that represent them 
* Spanish_language - Shows an IPA chart, but not the letters
* Wikipedia:IPA_for_Spanish - Shows the phonemes, then two or three random non-comprehensive examples.
Four Wikipedia articles on Spanish and none deigns to describe what the letters represent in a clear way.  Suggestion: Edit this page, displaying the alphabet in a vertical list and indicate what phoneme(s) they represent along, commenting as needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.90.84 (talk) 07:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  I've re-added the phonemes the letters represent, though we could probably do even more to explain the relationship between letter and sound.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 07:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Madness 

message: I am bilingual (my two languages are Spanish and English). In all my years of speaking Spanish, I have never heard "u" called "uve doble." At least in my experience, it is called "doble u" or "doble ve," which brings me to another point. "V" isn't pronounced "uve," it's pronounced "ve."
Also the phonetic spelling of "q" isn't "cu," it's "ku."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.92.179 (talk) 02:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I see it, the table of the alphabet lists the names of the letters written with their normal spelling, not phonetically spelt, regardless of the phonemes they represent being also there. This is, by the way, why I wonder when and where eye was ever accepted as a correct spelling of the name of ll—those who still pronounce ll without yeísmo (i.e., [ʎ], as opposed to y [ʝ]) would have to call the digraph ['eʝe] nonetheless, so both they and the vast majority of Spanish speakers who do pronounce ll identically to y would have every reason to believe this weird name refers to y, instead of ll. Needless to say, the RAE does not accept it. I'm thinking of reverting it if no explanation is given. Splibubay (talk) 14:00, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing eye as a name for the digraph ll. The odds of its presence in the table being ever justified look minimal. Splibubay (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  u, v and q? 

message: :http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/i/griega/llamara/ye/elpepucul/20101105elpepucul_9/Tes
:I griega changes to ye and be alta/be larga to only be.
:ch and ll now are not included in the alphabet (this is very good, so not anymore the old fashioned alphabet A B C Ch... Ll M...Z → A B C D... L M...Z).
:Orthographic simplification; quórum → cuórum, Qatar → Catar.
:Accents simplification; sólo → solo, guión → guion, ó (between numbers) → o.
:Jaume87 (talk) 16:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Alphabet modfications added! thanks for the report. Serg!o (talk) 23:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: More simplifications for the Spanish orthography

message: The opening paragraph assert that the Spanish orthography "is fairly phonemic, especially in comparison to other language orthographies using the Latin alphabet, having a consistent mapping of grapheme to phoneme."
This seems like a very strong and unjustified statement. The Spanish orthography may be much more phonemic than English or French, but it is not significantly more phonemic than any other Iberian orthography, or than Italian, German, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian or Albanian. Some other Latin-alphabet orthographies are way more phonemic than Spanish: most obviously Finnish and Estonian, but also arguably all major Slavic and Baltic orthographies besides Polish. If you make a tally, just among the official languages of Europe, you will find at least two dozen "in comparison" to which the Spanish orthography can claim no phonemic advantage.
Saying merely that it is "fairly phonemic" is probably the maximum that can be reasonably claimed.
Any objection to removing the incorrect comparison? I'd also be content to see a comparison to some specific other languages (like English and French) instead.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.131.187 (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps instead of saying "especially in comparison to other language orthographies using the Latin alphabet" it should be "especially in comparison to more opaque orthographies like English and Irish." — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 19:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds great. Changed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.125.57.36 (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison to phonemic orthographies 

message: I changed 'zeta' to 'ceta'. Check with the RAE before you think of changing it back to 'zeta'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.210.95.26 (talk) 02:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  z 

message: Can someone who knows the meaning of "contra-Madridian" please replace it with a standard term?  To my knowledge it exists only here and on other websites derived from this article.  Kotabatubara (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it can mean anything other than that some features of the rural Mexican pronunciation being discussed contrast starkly with the standard from Madrid (Spain). This is hardly worth mentioning, as the Madrilenian standard has other traits (most prominently the distinction between /θ/ and /s/, rather than seseo) which differ from very much any form of Spanish found in the American continent. What is peculiar to the rural Mexican variety is the retention of the /ʃ/ phoneme from Nahuatl in indigenous words like mexicano, whereas it's replaced by /x/ in more standard Spanish, even in Mexico itself. Since this information is mostly redundant in that section of the article, I think the best option is simply to delete that word, which I'm about to do. It's really high time to get rid of it. Splibubay (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contra-Madridian? 

message: I have read in a few places online that some people spell certain words informally as "quo" and "qua" instead of "cuo" or "cua" (such as "quatro", instead of "cuatro"). I have also read in the wikitext spanish textbook, in the section on Spanish spelling, that words containing the "cuo" or "cua" combinations can be written as "quo" or "qua." Could someone verify that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.242.125 (talk) 22:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See "Older conventions" in the article.  Kotabatubara (talk) 00:42, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Some people do it under the influence of Catalan. It's usually regarded with contempt by most people from the rest of Spain. Splibubay (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question about the Q+U combination... 

message: Not only do letters have Spanish names, but these, like any other word in the language, have a correct way to be spelt, and this is what the table in the "Alphabet" section of the article used to show along with the letters themselves and the phonemes they represent. Now I see someone has replaced those names with approximations fitting English phonetics and spelling rules, and there might even be an ongoing edit war about the matter. Perhaps these adapted versions should be kept as an aid to pronounce the Spanish ones—especially along with IPA transcriptions of the latter—but should the correct Spanish forms of the names of Spanish letters really be excluded from an encyclopedic article on Spanish orthography? I find it absurd. Splibubay (talk) 15:20, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted the changes.  English approximations of foreign words is so misleading and oversimplistic that it's basically wrong.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 15:31, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish names of the letters 

message: Not only words in verb form with enclitic pronouns can be sobresdrújulas  but also some adverbs such as fácilmente (easily). I am not an expert on neither spanish ortography nor 
wikipedia conventions, otherwise I would add it myself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.7.157.114 (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a note about the accent mark on adverbs in -mente (as this article on orthography should focus more on the written accent than on spoken stress). It's hard to justify calling these adverbs "sobresdrújulas", since their _primary_ stress is penultimate. (If we can find such an adverb at the end of a line of poetry, surely it will be rhymed as a paroxytone.) Kotabatubara (talk) 23:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Examples in poetry can be found in Jorge Manrique's "Coplas por la muerte de su padre" ("presente ... sabiamente") and in Garcilaso's "Égloga I" ("estrechamente ... frente"). Also in Góngora and in Sor Juana. Kotabatubara (talk) 10:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preantepenultimate or earlier stress examples 

message: I think there's a mistake in this table, under the Orthography section.  However, I'm just starting to learn Spanish, so I can't be sure enough to change it myself.  This table says that the phoneme /kw/ is written ⟨cu⟩ and ⟨cu⟩.  Am I crazy or are those the same spellings?  Is the phoneme /kw/ supposed to be written ⟨cü⟩ before the letters 'i' and 'e'?  If not, then why is the phoneme /kw/ even in this table?  Thanks for the help, Terrencereilly (talk) 06:11, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no mistake. The phoneme sequence /kw/ is always written ⟨cu⟩ regardless of what vowel follows. You are not crazy, ⟨cu⟩ = ⟨cu⟩. There is no ⟨cü⟩: ⟨ü⟩ can only occur in the sequences ⟨güe⟩ and ⟨güi⟩. I think the phoneme sequence /kw/ is in the table just for symmetry: voiced and voiceless /g/ and /k/ are there, so likewise voiced and voiceless /gw/ and /kw/ are included. Kotabatubara (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of different letters for the same sound sound

message: I made a change to the IPA character for the phonetic symbol for the Spanish digraph ‘Ch’ from this: ‘tʃ’ to this: ‘ʧ’ notice the first one is two symbols yet it was change on the back to the original form I’m just wondering why was this done?
I'm saying this because that is one of the symbols I saw on Wikipedia's IPA page about the sound that digraph does. sion8 5:10 April 01, 2012 (UTC)
:Ligatures are deprecated in the IPA nowadays.  Unicode still encodes for it, but Unicode also has other outdated IPA symbols.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 15:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why can't I use ligatures with IPA? 

message: The following wikilinks are dead on my computer. That is, they appear blue, but when I mouse over them no popup text appears, and nothing happens when I click them. They work as I preview this talk page edit, but not in the article.
In Spanish orthography#Alphabet: Latin alphabet, palatal lateral, yeísmo, Spanish phonology, Wikipedia:IPA for Spanish, acute accent, rr, Association of Spanish Language Academies, alphabetize, and RAE.
In Spanish orthography#Alternative names: Real Academia Española and alveolar trill.
In Spanish orthography#Special and modified letters: status quo.
In Spanish orthography#Differential accents: ó.
In Spanish orthography#Reform proposals: Real Academia Española.
Some of this list has changed since the first time I listed it, but most of it is the same. I use Windows XP Service Pack 3, and Firefox 12.0. I can't duplicate the problem on other articles, other computers, or other browsers, so it doesn't matter much unless others are having the same problem. Are you? Art LaPella (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds like a problem with your computer.  Those links work when I try them. Maybe try clearing your cookies or something.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 22:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead wikilinks 

message: In the Consonants table, quetzal appears as quetz'al, apparently an attempted phonetic spelling carried over from somewhere when it should be standard spelling and typography. I haven't fixed it because I'm afraid of messing up the table, but somebody should, please. Thanks, Awien (talk) 12:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quetzal 

message: "a relatively consistent mapping of graphemes to phonemes; in other words, the pronunciation of words can largely be predicted from the spelling" -- actually, the pausal pronunciation of native words can be fully predicted; it would be better to say that the spelling can be largely predicted from the pronunciation, the pairs like ge/je being much less numerous than in English or Irish. 46.186.35.242 (talk) 00:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: "Native words" is quite the caveat, but I think you may be right about the rephrase.  I don't see a problem with changing the wording.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 00:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have seen a book named Ziento i diez consideraziones by Juan de Valdés.
Was that an orthography proposed by Valdés or was it respelled by the reprinter?
Could you mention this alternate orthography in the article?
--Error (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably related to :es:Gonzalo Correas. --Error (talk) 23:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Juan de Valdés 

message: I never heard that, in Spanish, letters are ranked nor ranked E A O S R N I D L C T U M P B G V Y Q H F Z J Ñ X W K. I have to point out that I'm a native Spanish speaker and a professional translator. Maybe the editor meant to say that the letters ranked in order of frequency of use are those?  Thinker78 (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it can only mean that, I'll change the wording. --Jotamar (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

text: On a different matter, I can confirm that user:Error's edition about BMW is correct, so I'll recover it with a Cn tag added. --Jotamar (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Ranking of letters?

message: Look in the table for consonants in the Orthography section of the article. Now look at "gu".
before ⟨a⟩ or ⟨o⟩, and either word-initial after a pause or consonant, or after ⟨n⟩; but only in some dialects | [gw]
It ends with "but only in some dialects". What's only in some dialects? The [gw] pronunciation for "gu" and its whole context? The "or after ⟨n⟩"? It's not clear. The word examples given to the right of it link to two words on Wiktionary. Both pages list the pronunciation of "gu" as [gw], which implies that "but only in some dialects" shouldn't even be in the context. This is unnecessarily complicated.
Ντόναλντ (talk) 09:09, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure who added that, but you're right that it doesn't make any sense. I've removed it. — Æµ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 21:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "gu" Consonant's Got a Weird Context Description for [gw] 

message: I'd expected this article to have mention of the conventions around quotation marks in Spanish, but none such were found. 82.31.82.76 (talk) 12:38, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  No discussion of quotation conventions 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Spanish reform. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  signed, Rosguill talk 18:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Spanish reform" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: This section says "Some Mexicans and most Peruvians generally say be grande / chica ('big B' / 'little V')", linking "chica" to Wiktionary, which only defines "chica" as a girl/gal/chick. Assuming the Alternative name's actually one that people use, is the translation incorrect, or is Wiktionary's entry incomplete? --96.244.220.178 (talk) 07:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The word "chica" is the feminine form of "chico", so the link should lead to "chico". Burzuchius (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: chica

message: Hello, I just made an edit (marked as minor, because I originally thought it would be) involving changing or adding a few links in one of the endnotes to the table in section "Consonants." However, somehow I seem to have severely messed up the formatting of said table in the process! I could not read through the long mass of WikiText to figure out what was wrong, and I am confused how to fix it without reverting my edit. I also worry that if I did that, and then tried to make the same change I intended to originally, I might also again screw something else. Could someone who knows a whole lot more about formatting wikitables or whatever the appropriate field of expertise go back in and fix my mistake if possible? If it helps to revert my change first, and then go back in and enter in the links I modified again afterward, please go ahead and do so; I just don't feel confident solving it that way myself after this happened. Thank you very much to whoever corrects my inadvertant error!
2600:6C44:237F:ACCB:9C31:280F:F2A:A762 (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Corrected. Burzuchius (talk) 08:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Help! 

message: I see that there are a bunch of examples in the table next to r for the trilled r sound, /r/. These examples are rumbo, honra, Israel, ... amor puro. But then the next part, with the alveolar tap, the same examples are used. To clarify, this is saying that these words can use both sounds? I ask because for example with "honra", there are no examples in wiktionary or Spanishdict which show the alveolar tap here. I'm just making sure this wasn't some editing error. Cooleric (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch, it looks like an anon user messed that up a few years ago. I've undone their edits and conformed the examples with what is at Help:IPA/Spanish. — Æµ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 19:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples under &lt;r&gt; 

message: Here, “Spanish is the only language that uses ⟨¿⟩ and ⟨¡⟩;” but at Inverted question and exclamation marks, they're used “in Spanish and some languages which have cultural ties with Spain, such as the Galician, Asturian and Waray languages.”
The latter claim is sourced, but to a book that I don't have. — Octavo (talk) 15:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Spanish the only language that uses ⟨¿⟩ and ⟨¡⟩? 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Alphabet of Spanish which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 17:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: That page got created and merged several times:
*  originally created the article in 2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spanish_alphabet&oldid=1331061
*  merged the article into Spanish orthography in 2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spanish_alphabet&oldid=22740765
*  tried reviving the article on 4 November 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spanish_alphabet&oldid=1183482327
*  re-merged the article on 9 November 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spanish_alphabet&oldid=1184311229
I personally wanted to argue in favor of de-merging the article, but I don't want to create an edit war. Hence creating this proposal instead. 🐲 Jo the fire dragon 🐉(talk|contributions) 18:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We should begin by exposing the advantages of each alternative, shouldn't we? --Jotamar (talk) 22:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  De-merging [[Spanish alphabet]] proposal