Talk:French Resistance

message: according to WP:SIZERULE this page is  and should be tagged or split. Wikipedia is supposed to be maintained for all users, not just those with "modern broadband speeds". The maintenance category should remain in place while the guideline remains as is. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: How goes it?  That WP:SIZERULE rule is a load of bollocks and is out of time as it makes no sense. It was good in 2005, when everybody on the west was on an average of 1.0mbit but that no the case.  Even in Nigeria, deepest Africa, average broadband speeds are now 19Mbits. In South-east Asia and India the average is around 18Mbits. In china the speeds are much as faster as. There is 10000's of articles of that length on Wikipedia and none of them are going to split.  That WP:SIZERULE rule needs go.It is now a complete WP:IAR scenario. I've had this conversation numerous times and its become the blind moles. At the end of the day, nobody is going to split this article, because it is not even in range of what considered large. It simply not going to happen as the times have moved on.  scope_creepTalk 17:10, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a discussion you need to start or continue on the guideline talk (or wherever you deem it most suitable) but while the guideline is what it is, this and other affected articles should be maintained in accordance with it. Ignoring all the rules is only appropriate if the specifics of a case are such that they fall outside the rules; this page is long according the guidelines and there's no argument against that. Your personal opinion is not consensus and your experience may not be typical. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  The article size "rules" are completely made-up nonsense based on nothing, and as rehashed ad nauseum, even a single large image consumes bandwidth comparable to all the rendered text. We unfortunately have a number of editors who can't seem to find anything else to do but harp about this non-issue. The reason the guidelines haven't changed is that experienced editors find it easy to resist its mindless application in the field, so there's little appetite for wasting time battling out a change to the defunct guideline itself. EEng 21:27, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As has been revealed by expert analysis of the current guidelines; they are still very relevant and should be adhered to. This is one of the longest articles on the English Wikipedia, currently sitting at 2442 from the top. These facts are neither  or . Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 23:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Its because you don't know what your talking about. That rather simplistic definition of support at talk WP:AS is neither right nor reflective of a whole series of others reasons why the WP:AS is incorrect. Its a base rationale at best, extremely conversative  in nature and doesn't reflect reality for most people outwith Wikipedia nor within wikipedia. From the "Keep it short, please! People have fallen asleep after" to "dial" up lines, its all yesterdays news. It like reading dec manuals from 1988. Its mostly outdate junk. It might be worth pointing that a good number of people on Wikipedia, I don't know the exact numbers, but between 40-60% of folk are either software engineer, or a part of the STEM industry, so they tend to know what they are talking about. I'm an software engineer. My first job was protocol developement on 802.3. I know what I'm talking about. More so it worries me,  that this mentality is going to end up crucifying this extremely important article.  scope_creepTalk 01:14, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prose size and the very long tag 

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