Talk:Rimshot

message: Currently, the article says that a rimshot is "the sound produced by hitting the rim of a snare drum." Actually, for a rimshot the drummer hits rim and drum head at the same time. --217.162.139.244 9 July 2005 12:27 (UTC)
:Exactly. Andrewa (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Rim ''and'' head

message: I've found that many percussionists seem unaware of the differences in terminology between rimshots and cross sticks.  I've added a short statement that makes note about this.  Feel free to edit it at will
Aaron (19:30, 2 December 2005)
:Yes it is sad. And there are many more not mentioned here, but It's been a while for me, and I forget their proper names. Just listen to Buddy Rich, or other similar drummer to hear all the different tones you can get. There's also something in between a cross stick and rim shot, and then there's the fun "pop" you can get from doing a cross stick and hitting your crossed stick upwards (often to spin in the air for you to catch - a showman's trick). Khirad 01:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differentation between rimshots and cross stick 

message: I find this article excellent. I would like to list instruments to play with rim shots : bass drum, boobam, cuica, drum, paila (Cuban percussion), snare, surdo, timpani (see Carter : 8 pieces for timpani, I think),... all instruments with a tensioning... rim. But rim shot is impossible to play with a bongo, like Bruno Giner asks for in his score  Instants de peaux, Editions François Dhalmann. I would like to know who has invented rim shot ? When ? I think that the first classical work with rim shots is La création du monde by Darius Milhaud (1923).
Michel Faligand, [perc_infos], 10.01.06, France.
:It is also impossible (or at least not recommended) with a Pipe Drum (side drum used in bagpipe bands), which has a snare underneath the batter head in addition to the bottom head. You can possibly get a pop with bongos, as with congos, but it has nothing to do with the rim, but with the heel of your hand (or possibly using a stick to depress the head before striking with the other). It would be interesting to see who invented the rim shot. But then again, anyone who has sat alone tinkering with their drum has figured out how to do weirder things than a rim shot!  Khirad 01:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WHAT INSTRUMENTS FOR RIM SHOT?

message: It says in the article, "The term is erroneously used to refer to the sting played by the drummer in cabaret shows to accentuate the punchline of a joke. As a result, a particularly obvious laugh line is sometimes called a rimshot.".
Then, two paragraphs later, "The rimshot is often used in American comedy to indicate the punchline of a bad joke."
Are these two statements not contradictory? –Dvandersluis 19:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are. Attempting to fix it, removed It's also frequently used after a Stand-up_comedian|stand-up comedian's joke, augmenting the joke/pun itself. See http://soundandthefoley.com/2013/04/10/of-stings-and-rimshots/ for a good expose of the terminological mess. Andrewa (talk) 03:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

text: They are not necessarily contadictory. The first paragraf  talks about the erroneous use of the term, while the second paragrah may be using the term in its strict meaning.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.42.205.158 (talk) 14:46, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused... 

message: Seriously, wikipedia doesn't even have a paragraph on the rimshot as a comedic device? That's absurd and fails to meet the needs of the majority of people searching for a rimshot.
This should be fixed post-haste.
97.113.67.217 (talk) 05:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article notes that the term "rimshot" is often mistakenly used to refer to a sting, which is what you are talking about. --RaygunShaun (talk) 22:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  except that the term is only incorrect if drummers get to decide what the public calls a comedic device. which they don't. it may not be the technical term drummers use, but it's still what this is called to most people. --dan (talk) 22:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hence the disambiguation tags. 70.172.215.165 (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glaring Omission  

message: Why does Cross stick redirect to Rimshot? Cross stick technique doesn't involve hitting the head of the drum; the tip of the stick is placed on the head and snapped down with a fulcrum grip to hit the shaft on the rim. ❤ Yutsi  Talk/  Contributions ( 偉特 ) 13:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we should have a separate article on the cross stick technique. Andrewa (talk) 03:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross stick 

message: * http://www.tomscott.com/cliff/ Two Drums and a Cymbal Fall off a Cliff hilarious video
* http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/school_report/4791411.stm Glossary of common media terms: Sting (Television and audio): A bit of music or sound (with pictures if on TV) used to punctuate the programme. Stings are often used at the beginning or the end of a report or to highlight the headlines. ( OK its prepared by school students see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/school_report/7600511.stm )
* http://www.creativeskillset.org/tv/article_3485_1.asp#S STINGS - A short sequence or "bumper" acting as visual or sound punctuation between two sections of a programme or introducing a regular feature or strand within a multi-item show. An example would be a short graphics clip with theme music.
* http://www.thenewsmanual.net/Resources/glossary.html#S sting: A short piece of music (from 5 to 30 seconds) played in program breaks or to add drama. Stings are either dramatic music or based on station identification melodies. A musical form of a stab.
More to follow. Andrewa (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Some useful links

message: ;Rimshot
#Miller, Michael (2003). The Complete Idiot's Guide to Playing Drums, p.206. Penguin. .
#Pickering, John (2012). Drummer's Cookbook, p.51. Mel Bay. .
;Rim shot
#Shepherd, John (ed.) (2003). Continuum Encyclopedia of Popular Music of the World: VolumeII: Performance and Production, Volume 11, p.158. .
#Schroedl, Scott (2002). Drum Tuning: The Ultimate Guide, p.41. Hal Leonard. .
#Brechtlein, Tom; Finkelstein, Mike; & Testa, Joe (1996). Rock Drum Basics: Steps One and Two Combined, p.24. Alfred Music. .
#Schroedl, Scott (2001). Play Drums Today! - Level 1, p.40. Hal Leonard. .
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#Strong, Jeff (2011). Drums For Dummies, p.39-40. .
#Mauleon, Rebeca (2011). The Salsa Guidebook, not paginated. O'Reilly Media. .
Doing a Google books search "Rim shot" wins, doing a google search "rimshot" wins. Hyacinth (talk) 00:11, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rimshot, rim shot, or rim-shot?