Talk:MUD trees

message: I did some wikification so far, but most of the links go off in slightly odd directions, so someone may need to do some disambiguation. 80.126.238.189 09:35, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Started

message: The current MUD trees have these under DikuMUD spawned from Merc 1.0 - this is simply not true and invalid information. SocketMud was a simple C-based socket server with a limited subset of commands written from scratch with no licensing; NakedMud was a derivative adding Python scripting but keeping the generous open nature. A key, if not *THE* key, lineage indicator of Diku derivatives is the cascading non-use/credits licensing that forbid commercial usage. It's such a legacy that logging into any derivative will spam you with credits all the way back to the Diku source - which was either a badge of honor or an annoyance, depending on view. Either way, the soft-link is inappropriate - it's a separate tree and only would make sense if 'DIKU' was renamed to a category of some sort. 158.174.187.11 (talk) 09:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Socket/NakedMud 

message: This actually isn't "Derek Snider's" MUD Tree, instead it is one he stole from the alt.muds.diku faq and was created by a poster in 1994.  It has been "stolen" for use in research papers (someone actually got their doctorate with this).
:I've never heard of an "alt.muds" hierarchy nor have I found anything to backup what you said. Perhaps you could be more specific? I know of a different, general mud tree by Martin Keegan and found a FAQ for rec.games.mud.diku, but it just had a link to the same Game.org page. Also is it that Derek Snider gave permission for the tree to be GFDLed or that you don't think he can copyright it? 
:State on the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion page why you don't think this page should be deleted. There's nothing wrong with the intent of this article -- something on the relationship between MUD codebases would make a great addition to the MUD article (or even a good article on its own). An unexplained ASCII tree isn't very informative but that can be fixed. I just have a problem with its copyright status and the only evidence presented says "DikuMud Heirarchy (c)1995-2000 Derek Snider". --Mrwojo 01:10, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  VFD stuff 

message: *MUD trees - an example but no content or explanation - Texture 17:28, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion|Deletion]]

message: * Pirate was derived from Copper1 rather than from Diku, based on examining the source code.
* Merc was derived from Copper1 rather than from Copper2, based on examining the source code.
* I couldn't find any evidence for the existence of a Sequence codebase.
I fixed the first 2 errors and left the 3rd untouched for now. --Scandum (talk) 12:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccuracies

message: Eltanin, Fajita and Nilgiri were recently added.  They're all long-dead DikuMUDs, and seem to be in the correct places on the tree, but as far as I'm aware none of them are public codebases.  Does anyone know if their code was released? KaVir (talk) 22:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well this is an old comment, but I see you're still commenting on other things here... :)  Somewhere tucked in an archive or a disk or somewhere I have a copy of Eltanin.  I don't recall if it was ever truly downloadable-for-everyone or if it was a more limited a-copy-for-people-I-know thing though. Tarc (talk) 14:00, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: MUD or codebase?

message: It looks like we'll have to copy over the sources from the individual articles.  I've done a couple to show what it'll look like (not that great to be honest).  Is this really necessary? KaVir (talk) 10:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: Having a separate article is not a requirement for inclusion in the MUD tree, perhaps you were thinking of the Chronology of MUDs. NiMUD's derivation from Merc is established in Martin Keegan's "A Classification of MUDs", among other works.  If you disagree with the source/s, it can be discussed, but it is not appropriate to remove entries just to prove a point. KaVir (talk) 09:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  NiMUD 

message: UglyCode (UglyMug) should be on here, derived from TinyMUD 1.4.1. I'd add it myself, but thought I'd be more likely to break it!
The MBA4 and TCZ codebases were then both derived from UglyCode. 81.138.121.65 (talk) 16:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll need a source for it first, otherwise it'll just get removed again. KaVir (talk) 08:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: UglyMug

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