Talk:Schedule

message: taken the liberty, perhaps unathorized as I am just a reader of Wikipedia, to replace the sixth bullet.  It had read: "Scheduling (construction)" and it pointed to an article about Primavera, which is a scheduling software company. I do not dispute that Primavera publishes the #1 scheduling software in the world, and I do not quarrel with the legitimacy of an article about the company and its premiere products,
I do, however, disagree that a definition of construction scheduling boils down to a description of software. This would be like looking up "tax accounting" and finding an article on Turbotax.  Software is a tool, it is not a method.
To correct for this, I replaced the sixth bullet with "Project Scheduling," which needs to be written.  There is already a project planning article, and project planning and project scheduling go together as two sequential steps in project management.  Much like an architect designs a project before the contractor builds it, project planning establishes the 30,000-foot strategy, and project scheduling establishes the ground-level tactical approach.ICSGlobal (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: moved for legibility Markbassett (talk) 17:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial Violation

message: Scheduling theory redirects to this disambig page, but should go to something more specific. --Lost-theory 20:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have altered the redirect of Scheduling theory to go to Scheduling algorithm.  Currently that is redirected into Scheduling (computing.  Neither redirect is really right -- scheduling as the decision-making process and allocation methods have some examples there under disciplines, but the theory behind it is just not presented.  But that seemed better than mapping here and better than Operations research or inventory theory .  Markbassett (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Lost Theory

message: Recent edits seem badly to have tried too much -- both to make sections, merge with Timetable, and to address the toplevel call
'This disambiguation page should be converted into a broad-concept article, describing the primary meaning of the term. Additional meanings linked to this term should be moved to a separate page with "(disambiguation)" in the title.'  The result seems to be eliminating non-Timetable uses, *still* is not a single topic, and generally confused matters.  I will try and put in a proper Disambiguation page with the prior sense and content appropriate for meanings of Schedule.
Markbassett (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well *that* didn't work worth beans -- while doing my attempted disambig to replace the redirect here, the main page started editing again then after a couple edits finally threw up a major edits in process notice ... wish they'd done that earlier but ah well ... and my disamb to replace the redirect got pointed to speedy delete since a different disambig page is up. Markbassett (talk) 00:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you disagree that the word "schedule" has a common meaning, about which an article can be written? bd2412 T 01:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  It has multiple meanings in common use and multiple common specific uses -- so it looks headed for a main article, a disambig page, and some see also articles.  What meaning is 'primary' in the article as you are editing I do not yet know.  Markbassett (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  A schedule is a list of times at which things are planned to happen, or in which order they are planned to happen. It is a basic topic, and every kind of schedule (bus, train, project management, work, class, computer) is a suptopic of that topic. bd2412 T 01:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

text: I think everyone knows what a schedule is. It has a clear primary topic, and none of the terms that were on the page before were truly ambiguous, per WP:DABCONCEPT. If it is possible to write an article on the topic, it is not ambiguous, and can not be a disambiguation page. bd2412 T 23:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

text: Most of the entries at Timetable do not meet WP:DABMENTION; I will work on cleaning those up and incorporating them here also. bd2412 T 00:22, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  BD -  Suggest have the article explicitly state whatever scope of the article, to help frame any disambiguation of other uses and related articles.  The term has multiple meanings and without a Talk description all I can see from currently the in-process edits are not clear what you're writing for, but it seems to overlap other articles and just expanding content of some of the former bullet list of multiple meanings.   Sorry about the collision -- but you'd not put up a Talk or note, just a bunch of isolated hits on the 12th, then one on 13th and one on 17th so when I saw the mess late on the 18th I started Talk and then trying to fix the disambiguation redirect to capture the missing items.  Will check back in a few days I guess, good luck with the major edit.  Markbassett (talk) 01:03, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  There really isn't any ambiguity to frame. Just because there are different kinds of schedules used for different purposes doesn't mean a schedule isn't a thing by itself. To the contrary, a schedule is a very basic and important tool, and a comprehensive encyclopedia should have an article on this important topic. bd2412 T 15:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  BD -- Now (that it's been a few days and you've Talked) it is clear you picked the common meaning as timetable, so I will start edits at the disambiguation for other meanings of schedule.  May also look to clean up content here or add occupational material on the professional meaning for Scheduler, but likely later if at all.  Markbassett (talk) 04:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I wouldn't say I've "picked" that as the common meaning so much as it "is" the common meaning (and, strictly speaking, I think the broad sense of a mechanism for planning events effectively covers both events meant to occur at set times, and events meant to occur in a set order, irrespective of the specific time). The only other meanings that are apparent are the much less common references to lists of things, like the U.S. federal drug schedule or a "schedule" of tax deductions. bd2412 T 04:35, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  BD -- I've added to the disambiguation, in groups of planning items, reference materials, addendum lists, and attachments of supplementary information.  Markbassett (talk) 22:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  You may want to review MOS:DAB, as the content of disambiguation pages is strictly limited to maximize their utility as purely navigational devices. For example, a disambiguation page is supposed to have no more and no less than one blue link per line; linkless lines get deleted, and lines with multiple links are either split or the excess links are unlinked. See Particle (disambiguation) for an example that I think is comparable to this situation. bd2412 T 23:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not better - Recent edits conflusion 

message: I propose to merge the stubby Timebar scheduling material into the "Internal schedules" section of this article. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Against, weakly -- that article does not have significant content to merge, this article would do better to replace the link "timebar scheduling" with "timebar scheduling for shift work", where there is something. The Schedule article already has the general technique of timebar, mentioning use for staffing and showing use for events in the wikimedia2007 photo, does not greatly improve by going deep into each situation that could does a timebar.  Markbassett (talk) 04:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps timebar scheduling should be deleted, then, as I don't see any further development for it. bd2412 T 05:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maybe, but as for this article and merging timebar scheduling looks not good enough to want, and for the purpose of the shceduling article it looks better to just point elsewhere like shift work or Schedule (workplace). Markbassett (talk) 18:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are there circumstances other than a workplace where timebar scheduling would be used? bd2412 T 23:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure -- timebar is just a presentation style with timebars rectangles to show blocks of time, so it is not limited to staffing or workplace.  Could be non-staff such as scheduling rooms, could be non-work and example might be the photo of wikimania 2007 seems to be showing events as timebars.  Markbassett (talk) 18:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I see that this has since been merged to Gantt chart. BD2412 T 01:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge. 

message: A schedule or a timetable, as a basic time-management tool, consists of a list of times at which possible tasks, events, or actions are intended to take place, or of a sequence of events in the chronological order in which such things are intended to take place. The process of creating a schedule — deciding how to order these tasks and how to commit resources between the variety of possible tasks — is called scheduling,[1][2] and a person responsible for making a particular schedule may be called a scheduler. Making and following schedules is an ancient human activity 178.152.200.69 (talk) 23:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schedule