Talk:2002 Pacific hurricane season

message: * I think being a GA is basically the equivalent of A-class on our assessment scale, so it should be discussed on the wikiproject page too (I have done so above).
* The season summary section is too short - basically the same length as the intro.  This should either be folded into the intro or expanded.
* Each storm's section should have length proportional to that storm's notability (regardless of any daughter articles that cover the storm).  The article violates this principle in that Fausto has the longest section by far, while Kenna has the shortest.
— jdorje (talk) 04:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo/GA

message: The Good article nomination for  has failed for the following reason:
:(References are too jargon-filled WP:CITE; article reads as more of a list than a well-written atricle.) - Davodd 15:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Good articles|GA]] [[Wikipedia:Good articles/Nominations|nom]] has failed 

message: The storm tracks for Hurricanes "Ele" and "Huko" should really include the track while west of 180 meridian. Hurricanes "John" and "Li" in 1994 had full tracks including while west of the dateline, so why not these storms? RaNdOm26 18:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem was that the NHC best track data included the complete tracks for John and Li. However, only the Central Pacific part of Ele and Huko is in the NHC best tracks file. The continuation had to be collected from the JTWC. It's not perfect, as the JTWC tracked both storms in the EPac too, and had a slightly different track to the CPHC (for some bizarre reason).--Nilfanion (talk) 18:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ele & Huko 

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* http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tracks1949to2007_epa.txt
** In 1959 Mexico hurricane on 2011-05-25 03:38:59, 404 Not Found
** In 1975 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-25 04:40:15, 404 Not Found
** In 1991 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-25 05:56:22, 404 Not Found
** In 2001 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-25 07:11:09, 404 Not Found
** In 2006 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-26 02:11:28, 404 Not Found
** In 1959 Mexico hurricane on 2011-06-04 18:43:32, 404 Not Found
** In 1959 Mexico hurricane on 2011-06-04 21:55:32, 404 Not Found
** In 1968 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-06 13:54:59, 404 Not Found
** In 1975 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-06 21:14:29, 404 Not Found
** In 1991 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-08 00:41:50, 404 Not Found
** In 1994 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-08 02:35:20, 404 Not Found
** In 2001 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-10 07:39:34, 404 Not Found
** In 2002 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-11 04:44:21, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

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* http://www.climas.arizona.edu/forecasts/archive/aug2002/aug2002figs/19_tropicalstorms.html
** In 2002 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-25 07:23:42, 404 Not Found
** In 2002 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-11 04:44:44, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 2 

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** In 2002 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-05-25 07:23:44, 404 Not Found
** In 2002 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-11 04:44:46, 404 Not Found
--JeffGBot (talk) 04:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 3 

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message: Since last month, I have requested the split of timeline in behalf of Modokai in the project discussion. However there is no discussion since last January, as such I opt to continue the discussion here. MarioJump83! 08:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , , : Consider giving your opinions regarding this one. MarioJump83! 08:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

text: What was the rational of merging it? I'd like to see that first before making up my mind. Thanks, ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 17:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , see Talk:Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season#Merge?. MarioJump83! 23:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the timeline was never completed, which is why it was merged. If Modokai wishes to split the article and complete the timeline, I don't see the issue. There's already a well-established precedent for the creation of season timelines (provided that they are comprehensive), so I don't know if there needs to be a dedicated discussion for creating a timeline for this particular season. — Iunetalk 23:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, please disregard, I forgot that the timeline is already completed and present on the main season article. — Iunetalk 23:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split the timeline? 

message: In recent days, Modokai restored a merged article Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season without telling our project about splitting. When I first caught Modokai splitting that article yesterday I reverted their edits and cautioned them about what they are doing. They told me that they aren't doing anything wrong, and I replied to them that I was just telling them to not split these articles without seeking consensus first (as well as removing the caution to assume good faith). Now they're back at it, without even searching for consensus at all. As such I had to bring this up in here (and reverting their edits once again) to prevent further edit warring and as well as seeking for the consensus by myself. Should Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season be restored? MarioJump83! 08:38, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What was the rational of merging it? I'd like to see that first before making up my mind. Thanks, ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 17:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , see Talk:Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season#Merge?. MarioJump83! 23:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the timeline was never completed, which is why it was merged. If Modokai wishes to split the article and complete the timeline, I don't see the issue. There's already a well-established precedent for the creation of season timelines (provided that they are comprehensive), so I don't know if there needs to be a dedicated discussion for creating a timeline for this particular season. — Iunetalk 23:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, please disregard, I forgot that the timeline is already completed and present on the main season article. — Iunetalk 23:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original discussion 

message: *Oppose Timeline is quite short, and there is a reason why the featured article nomination was failed. MarioJump83! 08:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continued discussion 

message: Fails WP:NWX; no land impact and no meteorological reason for the article. This could be summarized fairly easily within the season article. Noah, AATalk 14:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - Fausto is clearly unnotable, having no impacts or records to protect it from being merged to the main article. Flux55 (talk) 17:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The meteorological reasoning at the time was it's regeneration north of Hawaii fwiw. YE Pacific Hurricane 16:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Hurricane Fausto (2002)]] into [[2002 Pacific hurricane season]] 

message: The season section is quite small and I don't feel there's much here that couldn't be said in the storm's section. Noah, AATalk 14:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Tropical Storm Julio (2002)]] into [[2002 Pacific hurricane season]]