Talk:Darod

message: There have been a number of back-and-forth edits regarding which Somali clan is the largest (e.g. Hawiye or Darod). I haven't been able to come up with any good numbers, myself, but I did cite a couple of sources. This didn't seem to help with the back-and-forth edits. However, in the absence of other citations I will continue to revert to a version that includes them. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Note: Some one has been editing Darod sub clans in a wrong way; the correct DAROD CLAN FAMILY TREE can be found the following link
url=http://www.hrw.org/reports/1990/WR90/AFRICA.BOU-09.htm | date=November 21 | year=2005}}
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HERE ARE CORRECT DAROD FAMILY TREE
* Tanade((Xassan))
** Leelkase((Abdirahmaan))
****Muumin Aadan 
****Mohamed Aadan
****Fiqi Ismail
****Mahamoud Ali
****Korshe
****Suhure
* Mohamed (Kablalah)
** Kombe
*** Geri Kombe
1 ilka xume geri
2 abrom geri 
3 aw beere geri 
4 case geri  
5 cabdi geri
6 aadan yare geri 
7 bah gurufle geri.
8 xassan geri.
9 siciid geri 
10 yaxye geri.
11 xayran geri 
12 burhaan geri  
Geri Kombe inhabitants jigjig,Tuli Guled, jinacsani,Babulii,Wardheer is 50%
Hassen Geri is a 4-year-old
1. Sheikh Ishaq
2. Sheikh Abayoonis
3. Sheikh Omar
4. Yusuf (Handsme boy) and sheik was born
1. Abraham
2. Adam and
3. Ahmed
Three of their siblings have left many people in Ahmed, the father
* Mohammed
* Muxumed (Bakacsiye
* Musa (Muusedaar)
* Omar
* and Abdalle
- Abdalle left alone
¤ Bahawiye
¤ Cawro
¤ and Jibril
The five sons of Ahmed's sons were very numerous and the most important of them came to an early age and they were all inhabited by jungle and surrounding areas.
And so far, he left many of his sons Sheikh Abayoonis
1. Sheikh Maame
2. Sheikh Ali
3. Shaking up
4. Jibril
5. Sheikh Muse
6. Sheikh Ahmed Bare
7. Fluorine
It is noteworthy that the 7 sons of Abayoonis were Sheikh Ali Abayoonis as the largest number of abdusions and ethiopia, Kenya and somalia
* Sheikh Maame is the highest in somaliland and the western ethiopia
* It is noteworthy that Geri Wardheer is 50% owned by Ahmed Bare and 50 other residents of the Jijiga,Tuli Guled , jinacsani, babulii, along with the inhabitants of the Maame area and a small number of African
* Fiesta is all eaten in Djabouti
* Muse, Dhaar and Jibril are all available in the West in the Jijiga, Fiiq, the Afar region and the Liban zone.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdi wali husein irguje (talk • contribs) 09:04, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved Comments from article

message: Since there is a separate Mahamed Muumin article, I have replaced the text under "Noted Darod clan members" with a brief summary. Anything subtantive about Mahamed Muumin should be added to that article instead. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 05:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mahamed Muumin 

message: The Darod Jaberti subclans section has become very unwieldy. I'm also not sure just how specific we need to be regarding the various subclans.  Since many of these groups have their own articles, I think any sub-branches should be listed in those articles, instead. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Recently there has been a number of back-and-forth edits to the listing of subclans, subsubclans, etc. I suggest that the editors involved work out their differences here (as per Wikipedia:Resolving disputes) instead of continually reverting the article. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 19:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darod Jaberti subclans 

message: Daarood is undisputedly a Somali word. It consists the combination of two Somali words of "daar" and "ood." Daar in Somali means a compound, sometimes a compound villa. Ood means an enclosure place by woods, fence and even sticks. Its former definition meant strictly an enclosed place by woods or large sticks only. Thus, Daarood means an enclosed compound, mostly by sticks as it was that way in old days in Somalia. It still is in the countryside, even in cities and towns.
It isn't the first clan name with this methodolgy. There is "Mudulood" clan within Hawiye tribe consisting the words "mudul" (hut) and "ood" (enclosure). Thus, Mudulood means, like Daarood, an enclosed living space by wall, wood or fence.
And Daarood wasn't an individual that existed. It is purely a myth. Never was verified, nor concrete evidence exists. I don't know why that misinformation was allowed there without evidence. —the preceding comment is by Soomaali - 09:47, 16 April 2006: Please sign your posts!
:Daar is actually Semitic (Arabic). Daar (del-alif-ra) is another word for house (bayt/beyt) in Arabic, hence Dar es-salaam, or House of Peace (also used to refer to the Muslim world).
:Yom 10:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daarood is a Somali word 

message: In the Worldbank source (p. 7) at Somali clan you can read that the Darod and Isaaq numbers are exaggerated. The Canadian source cited here is from 1997. That is too old to use for population numbers. On top of that the sources that are used in the Canadian document date from 1992. You cannot use that anymore. S710 13:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The size of the Darod

message: The sub-division give here differs from the sub-division give in Somali clan The reference for clan-division here given (Hunt(1951)) is completely out of date. Hunt is also the source of 'Somali ethnic group etc. from Commons'
The map (coming from CIA factbook) that's referred to also gives a sub-divison that's different from the one here given in the text. Shouldnt that be streamlined ?S710 13:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Darod clan sub-division

message: The subdivision of Darod should give a general indication of certain clans within one of the main clans (darod), not their exact place in the tree diagram and lineage. That's why I changed the list of Darod clans which was needlessly confusing.S710 11:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Subdivision

message: I just stumbled across Jidwaq, which needs a lot of work from someone knowledgable. I'm not certain whether it's information is even accurate. Anyone? -- llywrch 17:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphan article 

message: I am quite sure that "Isaaq" is not a sub-clan of Darod, and I do wonder about a bunch of uncited subclan names with no references. I do not know enough about Somali ethnicities to make a definitive ruling, but the content is mis-formatted in any regard, and Isaaq is definitely wrong. Opinions? Please cite sources. --Petercorless 08:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Factcheck additions by [[User:Abdisalam101]]

message: I was trying to revert some vandalism, and didn't go back far enough. Pardon me. --Petercorless 19:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pardons on removing information

message: My understanding is that "Dawud" is the Arabic version of "David" (?).
So is the Somali name "Daarood" a pronunciation/version of "Dawud", which by folk etymology has been equated with, or which has been altered by the similarity of, the Somali words meaning "enclosed compound"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.157.177 (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daarood vs. Dawud 

message: The "Partial sub-clan summary" section had grown to a long, unwieldy list, and had been flagged as such since February 2007.  I have trimmed the list so that it only includes blue links.  If someone decides we do need very long list, please consider doing so at List of Darod subclans or similar rather than inside this article.  In either case it should cite some source rather than becoming an indiscriminate listing.  Thanks, -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subclan list 

message: I have redirected a number of sub-clan articles to Darod.
* Leelkase had been tagged as unreferenced for two-and-a-half years, and tagged for cleanup for nearly three years.  No edits included any attribution and in that sense the article, over time, was deteriorating, not improving.  Until and unless someone can make a constructive edit to the article, I redirected it to the main Darod article.
* Suhurre, likewise, has lacked sources for 2.5 years.
* Fiqi Ismail is also unreferenced.
* Both Suhurre and Fiqi Ismail were so short they may as well be redirected to Darod until someone can expand the content, with attributions.
These are just the articles that I have been asked about; there were others that I redirected.  As none of the articles in question had any attribution whatsoever, there was really nothing to merge into the main Darod article.  Anyone wishing to restore these articles should provide proper attribution for them.  I do not see any use in restoring these articles to the state that they have been in for several years. The remaining Darod sub-clan articles contained references and, as such, are better able to stand on their own. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. I did not only go through the Darod articles, see also Talk:Isaaq#Merges and redirects to this article. Thanks. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

text: See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somalia#Sub-clan articles and redirects. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

text: (Edit conflict) I have changed Leelkase back to an article, now named Lelkase. It is now a stub with attributions. See Talk:Lelkase#Un-redirected for more details. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 23:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

text: P.S. As I mentioned on Talk:Lelkase, whether it's an important clan or not, the old article did not cite any sources, and had been tagged to that effect for two-and-a-half years. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 23:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirects to Darod 

message: I wonder why do we still hear Donbiro Direed?
for those who don't know Donbiro Direed was married by Darod as some poeple say but does she ever existed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiko115 (talk • contribs) 11:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:   Does Donbiro Direed ever existed? 

message: Sheikh Darod
Anasbinmalik (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please clarify what you mean. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Marking as answered Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Anasbinmalik, 23 July 2011 

message: where is the head of al shabbab terrorist group which comes from the darood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuad_Qalaf he needs to be in the noble people of darood or are you ashamed of this man .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.237.211.185 (talk) 01:47, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fuad Qalaf

message: --184.97.223.206 (talk) 03:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I can't tell what you are requesting. Note that the article already mentions five sons with these names (or variants thereof). -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 22 September 2012 

message: The "Notable Darod people" section includes individuals whose respective articles don't even mention affiliation, much less provide a source.  This first came up at Isaaq, and after cleaning up that article I was accused of bias for not addressing other Somali clan articles. Fair enough. WP:Source list definitely applies in these cases, and WP:BLP applies for many of them. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 05:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people 

message: Please, add Sheikh Darud's biography the follwing information with a reliable source.
According to the book of Allaa'i Alsuniyah Fi Al-Aqab Al-Aqiliyah (2006) by Ahmed bin Ali Al-Rajihi Al-Aqili, Sheikh Da'ud ibn Isma'il Al-Jabarti traveled from Zabid (Yemen) to Zayla (Northern Somalia). According to the book, the lineage of Sheikh Da'ud is: "Da'ud ibn Ismail ibn Ibrahim ibn Abdulsamad ibn Ahmed ibn Abdallah ibn Ahmed Ibn Ismail ibn Ibrahim ibn Abdallah ibn Isma'il ibn Ali ibn Abdallah ibn Muhammad ibn Hamid ibn Abdallah ibn Ibrahim ibn Ali ibn Ahmed ibn Abdallah ibn Muslim ibn Abdallah ibn Muhammad ibn Aqil ibn Abi-Talib Al-Hashimi Al-Qurashi".
Refrence: 
Al-Rajihi, A (2006). Allaa'i alsuniyah fi al-aqab al-Aqiliyah (3rd ed.). Dar Al Manar. pp. 113–116.
Anurrre (talk) 01:04, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Please discuss such changes and also provide a reliable English language source to back up your claim. — LeoFrank  Talk 06:31, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2014. Sheikh Darod's biography 

message: Under the clan tree, the main marehan subclans are the; rer dini, rer ahmed, ali there and rer hassa
Guulwade21 (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 00:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2015 

message: Cabdi Koombe (jambeel)
Sakariye saciid (talk) 07:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2015 

message: ****Ogaden
*****Abdalle (this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans)
*****Abudwak (this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans)
*****Bah-geri(this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans) 
*****Makabul
*****Mohamed Zubeir
*****Awlyahan
Qoraa1 (talk) 03:22, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:48, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2016 

message: Majeerteen (Mijerteen)
Omar Mahmud
Issa Mahmud
Osman Mahmoud (Osman Mahmud)
Drhassandaabad (talk) 10:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Talk! 16:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2016 

message: Please add the following as a notable person:  hawo Tako (Abaskuul, Jidwaaq): Somali nationalist killed by the Italians, leading to a nationalist movement against the colonials. 
Sources of this is already on wikipedia (Hawo Tako Page)
Najibduale (talk) 06:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Cameron11598 (Converse) 07:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2016 

message: The CIA and Human Rights Watch source says Hawiye is the largest clan within Somalia only but not in Ethiopia and Kenya.
According to U.S. Department of Justice report "Hawiye (part of the Irir clan family) is probably the largest clan within Somalia. 
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libanguled (talk • contribs) 23:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darod is the largest clan across borders 

message: the daughter of Dagale (Dikalla)
'''
That part is unreliable per WP:REDFLAG & WP:NOTADVOCATE.  Mainstream sources don't  mention a Dagale or Dikalla.
Karanle (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: One apparently does . However, it appears to be the only genealogy that specifies the Dir clan chief's name. Soupforone (talk) 16:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2016 

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message: Within the first clan assessment based upon the World Bank's Conflict in Somalia: Drivers and Dynamics from 2005 and the United Kingdom's Home Office publication, Somalia Assessment 2001.
It stats that the following sub-clans are under the clan of Dishiishe (Dishishe)
Omar Mahmud 
Issa Mahmud
Osman Mahmoud (Osman Mahmud)
which is certainly wrong and inaccurate, these sub-clans should be stated under Majeerteen (Mijerteen) instead, as it is in the source provided by the article. 
Please refer to the existing source provided in the article: 
 
Worldbank, Conflict in Somalia: Drivers and Dynamics, January 2005, Appendix 2, Lineage Charts, p.55 Abdirisaq Farah (talk) 11:54, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.DrStrauss talk 14:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2017 

message: Given the loaded history of the darood i think it would be a good idea to split the origins of Darood (where it all started) and create a new section called "History" to speak more about the actual history of darood, what do you guys think CabuuwaaqWanaag (talk) 10:30, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Darood in Oman should be recognized in the Darood page as they are fairly large enough in numbers to be noticed.
Darood also are part of the Bani hashim tribe since darood belonged to that tribe himself. 
Reference:
( الشجرة الزكية في أنساب بني هاشم( ٣٤٦ دارودي (talk) 00:56, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darood in Oman 

message: Albaabul (talk) 14:34, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DRAGON BOOSTER  ★ 14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2018 

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message: I would like to an edit request to the divisions of Ogaden sub clan of Darod. In the article, you only mentioned 3 out of 6 branches of the Ogaden clan.
They are:
1. Awlyahan 
2. Mohamed Zuber
3. Abdalle
4. Abudwak 
5. Makabul
6. Bah-geri
Thanks,
Abdirage Abdirage11 (talk) 17:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 00:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2021 

message: Muniira2020 (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . If your link is getting caught in a spam filter, it likely isn't reliable enough to be used as a source. Find a different source instead. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2021 

message: 102.176.181.34 (talk) 00:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , please be more specific about what needs to be changed.--Kzl55 (talk) 11:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2021 

message: There is a missing imformation absame had four sons 
1 baalcad
2 wayteen
3 jidwaaq
4 ogaden Abdihakinnn (talk) 12:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absame 

message: Abdulrisak ali ahmed (talk) 23:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2021 

message: 41.79.197.13 (talk) 13:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Icabobin (talk) 14:14, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2022 

message: The most powerful qabiil in guriga Amaal 46.15.253.141 (talk) 11:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baalcad  

message: Kummade Kablalax had 2 sons 
1- Absame kuumade is the first born son 
2- Abdi kuumade Known as Galimeys is younger brother of Absame kuumade 
Abdi kuumade  had six sons they are;
1- Waleenbo abdi kuumade 
2- ibrahim  abdi kuumade 
3- yasuf abdi kuumade 
4- muse abdi kuumade 
5-shimbir abdi kuumade 
6-jambeel abdi kuumade Dalanaa (talk) 08:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2023 

message: I would like to request an edit on Clan tree under Ogaden, please include Abdalla, Abudwaaq, and Reer Mohamed as a subclan of Ogaden. As we know there is Tolomoge, who are Abdalla, Abduwaaq, and Reer Mohamed, and there is Baahale, who are Mohamed Zubeer, Aulihan and bahgari. I see the Bahale but there is no mention of any of the Tolomoge subclan. Taliye2007 (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 12:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2023 

message: Moha dahir (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 17:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Please review WP:NOR. — Urro[talk][edits] 17:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2024 

message: In the clan lineage under kuumade. The clan abdi kuumade should also be mentioned together with absame kuumade as they are siblings. 46.126.86.147 (talk) 10:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2024