Talk:2000 Summer Olympics

message: Please make a list here of what needs to be done to the page.
* Add more in-line references (Should we use news article etc for references for events?)
Lets get this article to GA and then FA status.
How about TRACK and FIELD??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.31.229 (talk) 02:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do list for the page

message: The medal count on this page is based on the total number of medals. The IOC follows a different procedure: the number of gold medals is most important and if that's equal, they look at silver and bronze. Does somebody object if I change it?<BR>
IOC-link:  (a subpage of )<BR>
(Also, some numbers are wrong.) 80.126.123.127 13:32, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Medal count

message: At the moment about two thirds of this page is taken up by medal tallies and various related statistics (medals per million population etc).  Why not get rid of the third table and just have a link to http://www.simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html (the best page of that type that I have found)?
Also, why do we have an abbreviated list, followed by a full list of the same thing? -- Chuq 13:30, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: At the absence of any comments, and the moving of the full tally to 2000 Summer Olympics medal count, I've gone and replaced the per capita table with a link -- Chuq 01:17, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: Last time I checked, that was 3 billion, wasn't it?--Txredcoat 02:31, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It was to me and most of the english speaking world.  However some people seem to think that 3 billion is 3 000 000 000 000, so I guess the 3 000 million was used to save confusion. -- Chuq 05:09, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Originally, the American billion was 1,000,000,000, and the British billiom was 1,000,000,000,000.  In Britain, 1,000,000,000 was called either 1,000 million or a milliard.  Figaro 08:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave it. It avoids confustion between the Brit & U.S. billion. (The whole world doesn't use U.S. measures...) Or, say 3 milliard & confuse everybody outside France & Quebec. ;) Trekphiler 07:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  3,000 million? 

message: Just letting you all know that the bronze medal count for the United States is incorrect. Listed on this article as 13 bronzes it should be 33. Andreasu 14:19, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Medal Count

message: There isn't any mention of the venues of the 2000 summer games.  I found a list here:  http://library.thinkquest.org/28526/venues.html Newhoggy (talk) 11:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Venues

message: The voting process for the Olympic city is closely related to Australia's preferential voting system (the decrease in the number of votes to Manchester from Round 2 to Round 3 is an exception - that can't happen in preferential voting).  There is nothing in the numbers to suggest that anything untoward happened during the bidding process.  In the final Round, the 11 votes that had gone to Manchester were distributed - 8 to Sydney and 3 to Beijing.  In Australian elections, it is a regular enough occurrence that one candidate may be leading all the way through thr distribution of preferences, only to be beaten at the final distribution, and therefore to lose the electorate.
Does anybody know why there was one fewer vote in Rounds 3 and 4 than in Rounds 1 and 2 (because one vote seems to have been lost along the way)?  Figaro 08:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final selection 

message: I don't know what the sentence in question said back in 2006 and 2007, but now it says: 
*While "technically" Summer Olympics, the competitions after 21 September were in the Spring of the Southern Hemisphere and in the Autumn of the Northern Hemisphere.
:As Merbabu says, we have a different "calendar" in Australia when it comes to working out when the seasons start and end.  Ours start on 1 December, 1 March, 1 June and 1 September.  The northern hemisphere apparently start theirs on the 21st of the month.  So the events between 15 and 21 September were in the Australian spring and the northern hemisphere summer, and the events after 21 September were in the Australian spring and the northern hemisphere autumn/fall.  It's too complicated to say all that, and the Summer in "Summer Olympics" has never implied that the events must be held exclusively in the summer in the host country - all it means is that summer sports are played and not winter sports.  It's a pointless sentence so I'm removing it.  --  JackofOz (talk) 05:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisiting

message: I have added a tag to the note in the "Medal count" section (after my deletion of that note was reverted).  This text seems completely out of place.  There are no other references elsewhere in Olympic Wikipedia pages to this system, and the text only highlights the effects on placings 8-10 in the table.  Why?  What's the point?   Andrwsc 22:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've whacked it.  There really is no point. -- Jonel | Speak 01:54, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not going to make a big deal of this, but I can't see why you guys have such a problem with the note. I had planned to add similar notes to other Olympics pages if the order of the top ten medal-winning countries in a given Games would be significantly different under the point system... You ask what the point is. Well, what's the point of medal rankings at all? It's certainly not a life-or-death issue, but the current rankings are a way of Keeping Score, and the point system is arguably a much better way of doing the same thing. So, if national medal rankings deserve to exist in the first place, then noting those rankings with the best available method would seem to have a point. This method is used by many national OCs, not to mention many (probably most) books/articles/websites with Olympic stats. Ideally, the point system would be integrated into all Wikipedia Olympics medal tables, along with clickable column headers allowing the user to sort by his preferred method (number-of-Golds or Total Medals or Point System). But that's way more work than I have time to do, so I thought simple notes showing the differences between rank-by-Gold and rank-by-Points for the top ten nations for each Games would be the next best approach... I may be back to do it in the near future. If so, I'll leave a note on my intentions here and on the main Olympics Talk page first. If many others see it as you two do (which I doubt), I'll just drop it. Jim Tour 07:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Point scoring system under medal count?

message: Do we have an article on the Timorese athlete(s) who competed as Individual Olympic Athletes?  I'm not seeing it in the list of nations, and both Individual Olympic Athletes at the 2000 Summer Olympics (where it probably should be) and Timor-Leste at the 2000 Summer Olympics (where I would think the most likely other place for it to be is) are red-links as of right now. -- Jonel | Speak 03:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, there is an article at International Olympic Athletes at the 2000 Summer Olympics that covers these guys (I added the link in the 2004 Timorese Olympic article).  Not sure if this is an incorrect title or not. --Jfruh 03:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is incorrect ().  I have moved it.  Now, to de-orphan that page. -- Jonel | Speak 04:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IOA 

message: I just rated the page as a B class, but it's far better than that. I think it could easily make a GA, if not A class, without much effort. --Iorek85 00:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would need a lot of effort as there are considerable shortcomings. --Bob 16:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seperating the references from the external links, and providing inline citations, would be a nice start.Garrie 23:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating

message: I have put  on TfD as there's really no point to having that template rather than simply having the contents on the main 2000 Games page (as Andrwsc (talk • contribs) pointed out).  -- Jonel | Speak 23:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template:2000 Summer Olympics medal count

message: There is nothing on this page about the venues, location, costs etc. Why? --Bob 16:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Venues

message: Why aren't there links to the results? When someone comes to such an article, they expect to see the results of the different events, not ceaseless babble about the ceremony. Is this supposed to be an encylopedia or a "media" even akin to TV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.144.0.66 (talk • contribs).
:There are links to results.  Huge amounts of results.  You need to click on any of the sports in the "Sports" section and start from there.  Now, the fact that you couldn't find that tells me that the navigation method may be flawed on these pages.  What were you expecting?  What would have helped you find those results?  Andrwsc 00:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agredd Andrwsc, and if i may be a bit bolder, i would suggest that it would have been better for the anonymous complainer to constructively suggest room for improvement instead of lazy swipes (oe, "ceaseless babble"). A lot of people put a great amount of effort into these articles, but more importantly they collaborate with a constructive positive attitude. But, if you feel your criticism is still valid, it would help first if you were polite, and second, you were specific, and (optional) third make specific suggestions or even do them yourself. That's how wikipedia works. kind regards --Merbabu 03:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Instead of 12.144.0.66 being so critical about the efforts put into this article by other people, why doesn't 12.144.0.66 do something constructive and try donating something positive and useful (and informative) to the article.  It would be more appreciated by the people who have given their time and effort to make the article a worthwhile one.  It is easy (and lazy) to criticise the efforts of other people without trying to help — it is more difficult to try to help out (after all, it means work). Figaro 10:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Little worth to this article

message: This article highlights the evolution of standards here at Wikipedia. No doubt this was a pretty good article for an event in the year 2000 - but right now if this article got to be 1/4 this size without a direct mention of references it would be up for deletion as WP:OR, cites unreliable sources etc.
For those contributors who are still working on this article a definate effort needs to be made to provide both sources, and inline citations as are demanded for articles to move beyond B-Class.
I came here looking for a reference to add to Sydney Opera House#Symbolism regarding the use of the opera house in the 2000 olympics logo, but there isn't one - the logo is just described. The particular description of the logo in the infobox is far too analytical to go unreferenced - it should either be sourced or simplified.
I could remove every unsourced statement and I think there would be one sentence left.
How does one go about citing the DVD "The Opening Ceremony of the 200 Olympic Games..." - the cover image is right there but  a photo does not equal a citation. (I am looking into this one.)
::Template:Cite video/doc Garrie 23:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The symbol description was a close paraphrase of text from the official IOC website (see ).  I've removed it as a copyright violation, along with other descriptions for other years similarly taken very closely from IOC text. It would be great if someone could write non-plagiarised descriptions... -- Jonel | Speak 00:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced 

message: When the Olympics were held in Melbourne, the equestrian events needed to be held in Stockholm at another time of the year, due to Australian quarantine laws. But when Sydney got the games for 2000, this was not repeated. Had the laws been changed or was an exception granted in order to keep the games together? This should be referenced in the article. 23skidoo 21:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A little late, but you . —sroc 💬 13:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Equestrian events question 

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message: The infobox gives Telstra Stadium as the venur. However, according to that article it was not known by that name in 2000. It should be changed to the relevant name. Punkmorten 21:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telstra Stadium?? 

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message: Removed reference to costs in Pounds Sterling; as the money was spent in Australia and the Auditor's report was in AU$, there's no reason to have a foreign currency figure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.179.121 (talk) 12:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Costs

message: I don't know whether it's worth pointing out, and I couldn't figure where to put it, but the youngest competitor at the Sydney Games was 12 year-old Fatema Hameed Gerashi of Bahrain, in swimming, and the oldest was Francois Latil of Vanuatu, in archery. (Neither of them did well; Gerashi was disqualified for a false start, and Latil was eliminated in the first round of his competition.) Aridd (talk) 10:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youngest and oldest competitors 

message: Fprget Kylie and everything else. What I remember most about the closing ceremony was that guiy on the quad bike (erroneously called a ride-on mower by the commentators). Who can forget how he rode through all those kids dancing and they chased him in and out of the stadium like something from a cartoon show?
The reason I haven't put him in is because I could not find him anywhere on the net and I wanted to know who he was and the reasons behind the stunt. Katana Geldar 10:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The guy with the "ride on mower"

message: Could someone who knows more about the 2000 Olympics than I please check this out. On the list of events is Wheelchair Racing, but the linked article talks about wheelchair racing at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, where they raced in Stadium Seoul or something like that in - get it - September 2000. I don't want to just change it but I guess it's obviuously wrong! Sem boy (talk) 14:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please check the [[Wheelchair Racing at the 2000 Summer Olympics|Wheelchair Racing]] link 

message: Shouldn't there be a section on the controversial usage of pre-recorded tape used to? After all, a such section exists for the Beijing opening ceremony, that it would only be appropriate to include it here. See http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/sydney-olympics-faked-opening-too/2008/08/26/1219516425771.html
TheFinalSay (talk) 22:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Ceremony "controversy" 

message: I don't see why we need a whole section (even though it is a minor section) for 'demonstration'. I think we should get rid of it and maybe move it to the sports section (1 up), even if we have to put in a bit of typing. De Mattia (talk) 10:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just done that, feel free to add more demonstration sports if you find out about them, or add more text to what there already is on the page. De Mattia (talk) 08:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demonstration section 

message: Hi. A discussion about whether using all of the flags in the participation section of Olympics articles is appropriate/useful is taking place at Talk:2004_Summer_Olympics#Too_many_flags.21. GDallimore (Talk) 11:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags 

message: Who thinks Eric the Eel deserves a mention in the events section?114.78.52.16 (talk) 12:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eric the eel 

message: It seems for  almost every single other page for stuff like this there are a concerns and contoversies section (and sometimes even a whole article devoted to it ie Vancouver  and Delhi) so if there are concerns and whatnot they should be added--Luke193 (talk) 22:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a particular issue in mind that you would like to see added? It would need to be well sourced and notable. HiLo48 (talk) 23:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasnt there a heap of korean visitors killed, ive been googling but cant find anything--Luke193 (talk) 11:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah heaps. You could hardly walk anywhere without tripping over them! Sorry - sarcasm off now... The reason your googling turns up nothing is because it didn't happen. Or if it did it was very well covered up. Tigerman2005 (talk) 10:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies? 

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message: According to the article:
:Despite his record achievements as an Australian sprinter, Peter Norman was not invited chiefly because he had participated in an anti-racial protest during the awards ceremony for the 200m race in the 1968 Mexico City Olympic Games. The AOC disputes that he was snubbed, stating that no other former athletes were invited and that Norman was offered the same chance to buy tickets as other former athletes were. During the Sydney Olympics, a reporter from The Washington Post found only one reference to Norman – an image on the side of a house in Redfern [a predominantly aboriginal area].Martin Flanagan. Tell your Kids About Peter Norman. The Age. 10 October 2006.http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/tell-your-kids-about-peter-norman/2006/10/09/1160246071527.html accessed 27 January 2011 The house may actually have been in Newtown, where a mural of the awards event known as 'Three Proud People' was painted in Leamington Lane facing the railway adjacent to Macdonaldtown Station (see Newtown area graffiti and street art).Joesephine Tovey. Last stand for Newtown's 'three proud people'. 27 July 2010, Sydney Morning Herald
Mike Hurt doesn't say he wasn't invited. In fact he says, "I bumped into him at the Sydney Olympics". The CNN article indicates that Norman was treated no differently to any other athlete, a point that Andrew Leigh MP agrees with. The question of where the mural of Norman was is trivial and has very little to do with the 2000 Summer Olympics. And, by the way, Redfern isn't "predominantly aboriginal". The census in 2001 found it was only 2.8% indigenous. I suggest this be removed.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Norman