Talk:Electric organ

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message: * Support.  "Electronic" feels like an artificial attempt to move away from the ambiguous Electric organ (ambiguous with the organ of electric fish), but it doesn't quite work.  Early organs didn't use electricity at all.  Then there was a period of use of electricity for power, Pipe_organ#Wind_system in particular.  These organs using electrical power were electric but not electronic.  Subsequently, electronics was introduced, and for a period the "electronic organ" would have been used to distinguish synthesised organ music from a mere electrically powered organ.  In modern times, the word "digital" has supplanted "electronic".  Consequently, the "elecronic organ" best refers to a particular period of technological development.   Better to call them simply "electric organs", a term that covers everything in the article, and to disambiguate from fish with "(music)".  Also, keep well clear of the electronic heart and other biological organs that will become not just electric but electronic.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:33, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree --SwA (talk) 10:00, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

text: That said, this subject does seem to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term "electric organ" in a WP:TWODABS situation. Since the biology article was moved to electric organ (biology), this article has gotten 72.4% of the page views. It also appears to be far more common on Google Books and JSTOR. As such, I'd support redirecting Electric organ here, with a hat note pointing to the biological organ.--Cúchullain t/c 15:50, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Acceptable. See #Is usage changing below. Andrewa (talk) 19:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: That is, there are hybrids that use both pipes and electronics to produce different sounds, and Rodgers organs (now owned by Roland Corporation which makes them one of the largest manufacturers of pipe organs in the world by the count of instruments sold) have produced some brilliant hybrids. This is not about those. It's originally about organs which produce their sound principally by pipes, in the traditional manner, but which are assisted by electricity to provide the wind pressure.
And I've suggested that organs that use electro-pneumatic action (once quite common and there are still lots around) and more recent hybrid actions such as on the Sydney Opera House Grand Organ should be added to the discussion, as they are even more electric.
I'm hoping this can be settled quite quickly one way or another. So as not to clutter this page with interesting external links that fail wp:RS, see User:Andrewa/Pipe vs electric organ and feel free to add to it. Andrewa (talk) 19:22, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Are some pipe organs electric organs too

message: Assessing consensus is of course for the closer (or relister). But here is why I think discussion should continue, and along which lines. Andrewa (talk) 19:46, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be that this is now accepted, see #Analysis by another editor below. Andrewa (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Where we are

message: A move is required.
There is no need to disambiguate electronic organ, as non-musical electronic organs are rare and largely speculative. The musical use is the primary topic, in fact trivially so, as there are no other articles that could be titled electronic organ.
The term electric organ includes some musical instruments that are not electronic organs, but does not include all pipe organs that are electrically assisted, any more than the term electric chair includes electrically operated massage chairs.
Any dissent from these? Andrewa (talk) 23:39, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Agreed

message: I believe that the musical use of electric organ is its primary topic. This is disputed.
:It may be that this is now accepted, see #Analysis by another editor below. Andrewa (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Not agreed

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message: I desperately need someone who has any information on this organ. 2603:6011:1200:37FA:F083:A72C:37F9:DFCB (talk) 04:54, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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