Talk:Independent politician

message: The section on the US says that only Maine has elected an independent governor.  Are we talking true independents (that is, those who have no affiliation) or can we also include small third parties on this list?  There are numerous examples of third-party governors, the most recent being Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. whose A Connecticut Party was essentially a vehicle for his personal post-Republican political career. --Jfruh (talk) 02:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lowell Wiker? 

message: Senator Harry F. Byrd, Jr. was also an independent politician in United States. He was originally a Democrat but left the party in 1970, remaining in the Senate as an independent until 1983. Wooyi 03:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry Byrd? 

message: The IPO was created to provide ballot access for independents.  Both the effort by the Oregon legislature to limit ballot access for independent candidates and efforts to remedy that action are as pertinent to this category as the references to local parties in the UK.   Also, reference list from IPO web site included contemporary news articles from Oregon newspapers, fair use with attribution, that are otherwise no longer available on the web.  Bad form to delete them and revert the article without at least reading the references to determine relevence, or taking part in discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speralta (talk • contribs) 06:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you add your name next time Gang14 06:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Also show me an article thats not based on your page and i'll belive you because the articles I found just say its another party trying not to be a democrat or republican Gang14 06:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 3 articles pertain to HB2614, which limited ballot access for independent party candidates.  Not one of them mentions the Independent Party of Oregon.  The fourth reference is an Amicus Brief filed by the organizers of the Independent Party on behalf of independent candidates whose ballot access was restricted by HB 2614 -- the subject of the other 3 articles.  If you'd actually read the articles, you'd know that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speralta (talk • contribs) 07:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: doesnt matter if i read it or not the articles are come from that site so it will help your cause second sign you dam posts third I put the extra stuff for everything in the right part of the article so stop putting it at the top where it doesnt belong Gang14 07:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  P.S. I'm not deleting it I'm just asking for more proof and again sign your posts its not hard you just have to press the same button four times Gang14 07:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no proof for a month it's gone Gang14 17:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The IPO has been linked at the top you can explain more on its actual page if you like and sign your posts Gang14 (talk) 16:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with your change.  The issue of the legislature blocking ballot access to independent candidates in Oregon was the reason why a political party is created.  The formation of such parties is a critical component of ballot access when independent candidates run. There are similar references to local political paries in this wiki, and have been for some time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.142.43 (talk) 05:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPO 

message: They have an estimated population of 1,700. Sorry, but i've removed this based on the fact it is not noteable! Timeshift (talk) 15:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niue? 

message: As in other countries, many "independent" candidates for public office form political parties to gain ballot access in states where it is easier to form a political party than it is to run as a wholly unaffiliated candidate.  Most notably, this happens in Oregon, Idaho, Connecticut, and New Mexico. These parties may or may not be called "Independent Parties".  In Oregon, for example, Nader formed "the Peace Party" to gain ballot access in 2008. This page recognizes candidates who form parties for the purposes of running for public office as "independent" when it relates to other countries, but one unscrupulous editor (gang14), repeatedly changes the page without comment or discussion when similar provisions are created as it relates to the United States.  Further, in some states, legislatures have similarly made it more difficult for non-affiliated candidates to gain ballot access.  These changes are also frequently deleted by gang14, even though they are relevant to the history of independent politicians.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.225.245.198 (talk) 16:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason the IPO is removed because this-----> Not to be confused with Independence Party or Independent Party.----is at the top of the page your other edit i have no objection to. Gang14 (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough.  Header corrected.  Speralta (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  no not at all what was meant because there is more than one Independent party Gang14 (talk) 04:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Most "Independent parties" in US were formed for the purpose of giving independent candidates ballot access -- most notably, Ralph Nader.  The Independent Party of Oregon example is a clear example of a response to legislative efforts to keep independent candidates off of the ballot, and is cited as such in full accordance with wikipedia guidelines.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Speralta (talk • contribs) 04:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FORMATION OF POLITICAL PARTIES BY "INDEPENDENT" CANDIDATES IN US 

message: What's the deal with the addition to this article of Teddy Roosevelt's running as a Bull Moose in 1912? That wouldn't be an independent candidacy, but a third-party candidacy. Qqqqqq (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bull Moose 

message: These are different and each should have a separate entry. An independent voter may often vote for a major party candidate. 67.9.148.47 (talk) 00:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political independent person vs. political independent politician 

message: Will editors please stop removing the reference to Independent Candidate and stop trying to promote the American Independence Party which has no relation to this article and is simply spam?
Thanks Londonlinks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Londonlinks (talk • contribs) 23:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference to independent candidate was removed by me a few days after my revert of independent candidate to redirect here for the reasons outlined on Talk:Independent candidate. I have no view on small American political parties; I simply left that link in when removing the one to independent candidate. I will leave the link here until the discussion is resolved. 128.232.241.211 (talk) 23:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 6th May 2010

message: Bob Katter (Aussie pollie) from 1 June 2011 is no longer an indepentent politician - because he is a member of the Bob Katters Australia party!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.207.230 (talk) 04:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob Katter 

message: Do people think it might be a good idea to have mentions of Italy and Greece down there given that both countries currently have independent Prime Ministers? Or should our position be that technocratic leaders do not fall within the category of Independent Politicians given that they are not professional politicians in the career sense and have not been elected via the usual democratic process? I'm curious to hear people's views on this, but I think that perhaps some mention ought to be made on the page either way that non-party affiliated leaders can sometimes end up in office in democracies as technocrats during periods of crisis. Pbrione (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technocrat leaders in Italy / Greece 

message: Due to events in 1972 there cannot be independent sentors.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.95.108.234 (talk) 06:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aus senate 

message: Well, if we're going to close the then-ongoing discussion because it had forked, and decided that the two directions need to be sorted out first, we actually have to have a discussion in which  to do that.  The points I get from the above are
#This article is not about political independents and political independence generally (which describes voters as well as whom they're voting for), but about politically independent politicians in particular.
#There's some concern that the parenthetical disambiguation isn't the best choice here.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  14:45, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems you're conflating Independent voters with Political independents. While I disagree with the view that they are so confusable a simple  dab link seems to resolve this. Fan | talk | 23:06, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If we have an Independent voter article, why are we even having this discussion? The Drover's Wife (talk) 08:50, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: New naming discussion

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message: So Africa does not have any independent politicians? RickyBlair668 (talk) 08:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Africa