Talk:Armstrong Flight Research Center

message: This image should be helpful if this article is ever expanded. Triddle 18:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Fleet photo

message: I added a 1m monochrome satellite photo of Dryden and the compass rose.  The photo is at least a decade old.  The dark structure near the  top is the STS assembly facility.  Note that the photo is aligned with true north; the compass rose shows magnetic north, which calculation using NOAA's calculator confirm is around 13 degrees east of true north. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 13:57, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sat photo

message: Does anyone know what the planes in the main picture are? I know the one in the center is the blackbird but what about the rest. Especially the small white one in the lower left hand side and the space shuttle looking thingy on the lower right hand side.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.5.36.1 (talk) 05:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The aircraft in the first gallery photo are X-31, F-15 ACTIVE, SR-71, F-106, F-16XL Ship #2, X-38, Radio Controlled Mothership and X-36. See: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/Fleet/HTML/EC97-44165-149.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.133.202.68 (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo Legend

message: Are there any NASA experts out there than can make this article about the facility and not just a random collection of experiments performed here? -SidewinderX (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I might be an 'expert' about NASA Armstrong, but not about writing a good Wikipedia article. Would it be good to pattern it on the most-recent Citizen Report? (http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/citizen_report_13and14.pdf) I can ask the historian (Dr. Gelzer) for some solid sources for a synopsis of the history. Aeronrd (talk) 23:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

text: How about a structure like this:
* History
** Notable Flight Research Areas http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupid?key=olbp31119
*** Higher, Faster
**** First supersonic flight: Bell X-1
**** Early X-planes & Douglas D-558-2 Skyrocket
**** Hypersonic, suborbital space: North American X-15
**** Lifting Body re-entry vehicles: Lifting body
**** Jet-powered speed research
*** Efficiency
**** Supercritical airfoil / Mission Adaptive Wing
**** Winglet
**** NASA Oblique Wing
**** Laminar flow research
*** Maneuverability
**** Rockwell HiMAT
**** Grumman X-29
**** High Alpha Research Vehicle
**** Rockwell-MBB X-31
*** Aircraft Systems
**** Fly-by-wire
**** FADEC
**** McDonnell Douglas F-15 STOL/MTD
**** F-18 SRA
*** Supporting the Space Program
**** Lunar Landing Research Vehicle
**** Space Shuttle Enterprise
**** Space Shuttle Support Research
**** Balls 8
*** Safety and Problem Solving
**** Aircraft Design Problems
**** Aviation Safety
** Notable Employees http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/Biographies/Pilots/index.html
*** Neil Armstrong, 1955 to 1962
*** R. Dale Reed
*** C. Gordon Fullerton
*** Bill Dana (pilot)
*** Milton Orville Thompson
*** Fred Haise
*** Marta Bohn-Meyer
*** Albert Scott Crossfield
*** ...
* Current Status http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/citizen_report_13and14.pdf
** Fiscal Year 2013 Statistics
** Aeronautics Research
*** Adaptive Compliant Trailing Edge (ACTE)
*** Unmanned Aircraft Systems
*** Supersonics
*** Lockheed Martin X-56
** Science
*** Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk
*** Douglas DC-8
*** ER-2 variant of Lockheed U-2
*** UAVSAR Gulfstream III
*** Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy
** Human Exploration and Opertations
*** Commercial Crew Development
*** Launch Vehicle Adaptive Control experiment used an Armtrong F/A-18 aircraft in 2013 to evaluate an Adaptive Augmenting Controller developed by engineers at Marshall Space Flight Center for the agency’s Space Launch System rocket
** Space Technology
*** Flight Opportunities Program
*** Towed Glider
*** Hypersonic Inflatable Aerodynamic Decelerator
** Facilities
*** At Edwards AFB
**** Flight Loads Lab
**** RAIF
**** ...
*** Building 703 (Palmdale)
Aeronrd (talk) 03:29, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I'm a noob when it comes to Wikipdia culture, I started poking around the guidelines. Since I work at Armstrong Flight Research Center I can't avoid appearing biased, although I'm experienced writing objectively in technical reports. I'd be glad to help someone else overhaul this article to be much more informative than it currently is, but I don't want to violate Wikipedia's guidelines. If you are an unbiased outsider interested in improving this article, and you'd like my help collecting references or anything else, let me know. Aeronrd (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Been awhile since I have edited anything on wikipedia, but I may give it a go for the next few weeks, see if I can help this article out a bit.--JKBodylski (talk) 09:57, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: This Article Needs Help!

message: I understand the House of Representatives passed the bill, but from I understand from http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1212/31armstrong/ the Senate has also to agree. And does a pass means it is in effect immediadetly? From what I understand it is still the Dryden Flight Research Center. --Kucharek (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was a bit hasty there.  I suspect it will pass the senate as well (unanimous in the House) but you are correct that it is not official yet.--RadioFan (talk) 21:33, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't the title of the article be Armstrong Flight Research Center, per NASA's page on the Center? We didnt use the full name for Dryden either, and this fits per WPCOMMONNAME. - BilCat (talk) 22:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree the title should be Armstrong Flight Research Center, as this is the name NASA commonly uses: http://www.nasa.gov/about/sites/ Aeronrd (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming 

message: The "D" logo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US-NASA-DrydenFlightResearchCenter-Logo.svg) is no longer in use since the name change to Armstrong Flight Research Center. I think it should be removed from the top of the page, but I don't know what should be done with it instead.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeronrd (talk • contribs) 22:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for making the change. There is an official but internal-use-only logo for Armstrong: http://www.collectspace.com/review/armstrongfrc_patch01-lg.jpg, but I don't think it goes here.Aeronrd (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "D" logo is no longer in use 

message: Ok, I've been chatting with Christian Gelzer at Armstrong, and he has given some good pointers. Im going to start with the opening and update and rework that a bit, then move into adding sections about the center by era/topic. Ive added a section for aircraft on display, which will eventually include the aircraft at both Building 703, as well as the aircraft at the main center. Sorry if this takes awhile! JKBodylski (talk) 12:06, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Rework 

message: The official title of the center is the NASA Neil A. Armstrong Flight Research Center, perhaps we should change the name of the article to reflect this? JKBodylski (talk) 11:41, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Title