Talk:Kun Khmer

message: I'm really not sure how to cite references so I am putting that info here.  In the pradal serey today section, there are two requests for citations, one regarding bayon tv fights the other regarding CTN's kun khmer championship tv series. there are mentions to both here: http://www.paddysgym.com/news/, with links to photos of both fights at bayon tv stadium (http://www.paddysgym.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=179), and ma serey and eh phoutang under a kun khmer championship banner taken at the press conference (http://www.paddysgym.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=93) announcing the show. hope that helps, and apologies if this is the wrong format or in the wrong place.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PPGrasshopper (talk • contribs) 02:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation question 

message: What else should i put?Ifire 03:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more info? 

message: There is a link to Development on this page that is linking to a disambiguation page. I'm not sure which (if any) of the more specific pages on types of development would be a better link in this context. Could someone please review the choices available and either re-direct the link or delete it? Thanks.—Chidom talk  09:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: This article was listed as a GA nominee by  on 7 October 2006 (see ), but no  tag was given in this talk page. So I assume that indeed this article was nominated and the user forgot to put this tag.
As of 7 October 2006, I'm making a speedy failing for good article, because this article is totally unsourced, per WP:WIAGA. Please read again WP:CITE to conform the three pillars of Wikipedia: verifiability, neutral point of view and no original research. I've put  tag in the aritcle, but please do not feel it as discouraging. Please take a time to include reliable sources before putting this article for GA nomination. Please also read what is Good Article guideline. If this matter has been resolved, you may renominate this article back. Cheers. — Indon (reply) —
:I have failed the renomination. There are now some citations, but nowhere near enough. The article is also insufficiently broad in coverage to be promoted e.g. How is the sport organised? Is it promoter led like boxing, or are there tournaments? The closest type of article to this to have good or featured status is Sumo, maybe that article could give some ideas for structure and layout.  The list of notable Khmer boxers does not establish criteria for inclusion, how does the reader know they are notable? Oldelpaso 10:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's going to be a while before this article can actually be considered good. There is not much information regarding Pradal Serey. Whatever you can find online comes from editorials, discussion forums, and other biased articles. There isn't a reliable source that has published any information on Pradal Serey, not as far as I know. What is mostly known is by word of mouth. --Cantharellus 01:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed GA Nomination 

message: Is there a reason why the History section was move before the Rules section? If not I would like to revert back to the old format.ATTFFX (talk) 07:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not the editor who made the move, but I agree that the History section should indeed stay before the Rules section. There are a few reasons for this.  Firstly, it is consistent with the format of Wikipedia's other articles on martial arts (see Hapkido and Aikido, for example).  Secondly, if this is to be a true "encyclopedia", the emphasis of these articles should be the academic study of the topics, not a how-to guide.  Consequently, the history, influences, and comparison with other martial arts is more important than the current rules for organized competition. --William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 14:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Format

message: It's said that the main argument of the origin of Pradal Serey is based on the bas-relief but which bas-relief, if not the one that depict wrestling?
If there's no bas relief that depict the picture that really resemble to pradal serey then it cannot be considered as a evidence for a long history.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abcdedf (talk • contribs) 01:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are there any ancient bas-relief that really depict Pradal Serey 

message: This article need to change its name to Kun Khmer. The CABF refer to Khmer Boxing as Kun Khmer. On television it is referred to as Kun Khmer. On the web it is now commonly referred to as Kun Khmer.KhProd1 (talk) 05:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kun Khmer 

message: Can someone get an up-to-date photo of the CTN commentators? Just how old is that one, anyway? It looks like it should be in the "history" section...KhProd1 (talk) 09:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, and it is in the history section. Its next to where it is taking about the television stationsPwordisony (talk) 07:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  photo of CTN commentators? 

message: Are there any academic publications that actually claim those bas-reliefs are of specifically an art called 'pradal serey?' This is a modern term. Even the link to the apsaras of Angkor Wat and modern court dance is easily challenged. Although stone inscription describe court dancers, there is no proof that those bas-reliefs actually represented court dancers, just devatas. In the same vein, how do we know these bas-reliefs of men sparring is the same martial art that is practiced today? Who is to say this is or is not a precursor to 'pradal serey?' Or, it could be a totally different form of martial arts. --Dara (talk) 18:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention, some of the bas-relief pictures show up in the bokator article aslo. So what are they depicting? Bokator or pradal serey? At the most, I would personally say they are precursors to modern Cambodian martial arts. To claim these bas-reliefs are depicting bokator or pradal serey is unfounded; you know the saying, a picture says a thousand words, but that's all opinion. --Dara (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm shocked... 

message: Khmer Copy and use Muay Thai movement Dkungdjung (talk) 10:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy and use Muay Thai movement 

message: Kun Khmer is developed from Muay Thai but Cambodian claims Muay Thai to be them.Thanestk (talk) 14:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kun Khmer 

message: Edit 100+ Copy from thailand all everyting 2001:44C8:4702:B93C:3458:B51A:8B32:B04 (talk) 07:37, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy Muay thai 

message: #Redirect Kun Khmer 36.37.206.65 (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: The article lives here currently. Any relocation of the article would need to be done through the WP:Requested move process, which would include a discussion to determine the common name, as used in English, of the subject. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2023 

message: The Bokator was unknown in Cambodia until 1990 when San Kim Sean returned from the United States to Phnom Penh in Cambodia as a rescued (inventor) of the Bokator. Who is San Kim Sean? San Kim Sean left Cambodia for the refugee camp of Khao-I-Dang in Thailand in 1979 on September 29, 1980 he left Thailand and lived in the refugee camp in Houston in the United States later in the year 1984 he was lived in Long Beach, California. He was a Hapkido Professor at the academy in the USA. He taught Hapkido for ten years in the US without any highlights he was just another Hapkido teacher. But when he returned from the US to Cambodia in 1990 he "recreated" using traditional Khmer boxing as a base and using the name of a supposedly Khmer legend from the Angkorian period to name his new fighting style the Bokator this all with feelings anti-Thai and radical nationalism. He created the Bokator Academy Academy, created the Bokator Federation and even a restaurant, the San Kim Sean Kun Bokator Restaurant Club located on Abacus Lane in Siem Reap. But San Kim Sean only had recognition of his style in Cambodia in 2001 when he was recognized by the government of Cambodia.
San Kim Sean teaching Hap Ki Do in the US had never spoken Bokator while living in the US
Much of Bokator's appearance is due to the film Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior by actor Tony Jaa. After this film, Bokator masters began to appear. OttoNo1 (talk) 17:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  You need to cite your sources. —C.Fred (talk) 00:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2023 

message: Should this page be renamed to "Kun Khmer", now that it has appeared in an official sporting event?
Dancing Hippos (talk) 14:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move request 

message: There appears to be a few talk topics that basically rants about "Cambodia (Khmer) copying Thai culture" and none of them are constructive. These are seemingly Thai netizens caught up in ultra-nationalism sentiments with their Cambodian neighbors. The truth is, there's a lot of shared culture, traditions, and customs between both Cambodians and Thai as well as Laos. Most of Thailand was once part of the Khmer Empire and so there's Khmer influence on the Thai. Later when the Khmer Empire was weakened, the Thai asserted influence on the Khmer. As a result, there's been an exchange of culture between the two over centuries. During the Khmer Rouge period, a lot of Cambodian scholars and people in academia were executed and many records and books were destroyed. Cambodia also endured decades of civil war after the Khmer Rouge were ousted from power. During this time, Thailand had decades to promote its culture to the world.  More recently, Cambodia is experiencing an era of heightened cultural revival through arts, food, tourism, entertainment, and traditions due to a more stabilized country and a better economy.  Martial arts in Cambodia is currently one aspect of Cambodian (Khmer) culture being heavily promoted both locally and internationally. As a result, you have folks on both sides of the border ranting about the origins and whatnot online and through social media. 205.175.118.96 (talk) 21:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Thai ultra-nationalist netizens 

message: We are trying to show the comparison between Kun Kmher with other martial art in Southeast Asia. This topic has been asked from everyone in the world, and we are here to awnswer. Paopsst (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2023 

message: Some thai nationalist has vandalise this page by putting bogus info, needs fixing and protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pradal_serey#COMPARISON_OF_KUN_KMHER_WITH_NEIGHBORHOOD 45.118.77.241 (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalised Page