Talk:Central Valley Project

message: I added a drastically high amount of content and images to the page, mainly because there is far more info on the subject than presented. However, I did keep most of the sections of the original article, mostly the latter part of the intro, external links, etc. Environmental impacts is now under the "Benefits" and "Negative impacts" section.themaee 02:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks pretty darn good to me.  I am sure I speak for many more, when I say "thank you," for all the time you have been willing to donate to this article.  EditorASC (talk) 06:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No big deal, I just like to contribute to articles that should have lots more info than they do. Just makes me feel somewhat better as an editor. themaee 01:54, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: I am having some difficulty in understanding this section, as part of the negative impacts:
: === Shasta Dam ===
: Main article: Shasta Dam#The Woes of the Winnemem Wintu Tribe
: The Shasta Dam, at the opposite end of the Central Valley from Friant Dam, is the largest and one of the most important dams of the CVP, yet has had a large negative effect on the Winnemem Wintu of California, as well as perhaps other native groups. Originally, for more than 1,000 years, up to 14,000 Winnemem Wintu people lived in the area near the confluence of the McCloud River and Sacramento River. After the Shasta Dam was constructed, most of the land in the vicinity was submerged, and by 1900 only 396 tribe members had survived. Currently, only about 125 members of the tribe survive.[42]
Since Shasta Dam wasn't completed until 1945, I do not understand why a population of 396 Wintu Tribe members, in the year 1900, is relevant to the existence of Shasta Dam?  How many of those 396 were left in 1945?   If they numbered as high as 14,000, many hundreds of years earlier, and were down to only 396 in 1900, why is that mentioned in relation to the idea of "negative impact?"  People who live in areas where dams are built have to relocate---regardless of what is their ethnic origin.  Are we suggesting that no dams should ever be built, if doing so requires any humans to relocate?  Can't we come up with some negative impact for just about every large structure that has ever been built by man?  What is the point of putting that in the article? EditorASC (talk) 10:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot <span style="color:green;font-family:Rb wars. There should be the history behind the disputes among the stakeholders during the Peripheral Canal . A link could be sourced for briefly explaining about water rights and the diversion of waters from Californian southern users from North California due to their excessive water demands.
I would like to know what negotiation and investments were settled among the distributors of water consumption. 
The link referenced support claims of this involved in funding facilities through contracts is relevant to the expansion of facilities that were recipients of water distribution of the Colorado River.  Thus, the content does has ample information about the conflict with politicians intervening with Los Angeles getting their share in water, specifically the Colorado River before the Peripheral Canal was constructed.
The section that was underrepresented was the section on Los Banos Grandes, but after reading and looking at references it does not need to be further explained because the reservoir wasn’t funding and it did not proceed forward. One idea that distracted me was in the controversy section explaining about the dam capacity and costs to supply water during droughts, being a different negative impact contrary to environment impact. It could have different subheadings of the controversy section so that it easier to transition to the individuals impacted by the dams. In spite of the tribes’s land being affected by the Shasta Dam, this could be further expand with an additional source and transition after the  sentence "The added capacity of the reservoir would change flow fluctuations in the lower Sacramento River, and native fish populations, especially salmon, would suffer with the subsequent changes to the ecology of the river” [51] In addition, the disruption of migrating fish’s flow pattern could be titled environment impacts as subheading underneath controversy. Overall great sources and content, it just needs to be organized into sections. Based on the talk page, there were comments on the grammar and adding content because it could be further explained, but it should be addressed for each section so that the reader is well-informed 
As a reader, the environmental impacts portray the article as biased when the Wintu Tribe are mentioned. It should also include the benefits that resulted from the Central Valley Project, even if there was many disputes and environmental degradation. 
Jujiberry (talk) 16:20, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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