Talk:James Meredith

message: Does anyone know of a march or protest that James Meredith may be conducting in late September 2008? I've heard that he will walk from Jackson, MS to Oxford, MS in time for the Presidential Debate on Sep 26, 2008 in protest of something. Does anyone have any information on this? Is it true?
Javabeanrush (talk) 02:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Meredith Protest at U of MS 2008 Presidential Debate?

message: 11/15/11- Good morning. The 2011 American miniseries on the Kennedy family has an episode dedicated to the Meredith story and the Oxford riots. IMDB.com has no information on the actors who played Meredith or Gov. Barnett.
This month is the 40th anniversary of Meredith's enrollment at the previously all-white Ole Miss. I daresay he was even more heroic than Rosa Parks. --Ed Poor
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I eliminated the link to abebooks - it just goes to a search screen for a commercial book vendor. Also, I was not really sure what the following phrase was really supposed to mean:
James Meredith was not a part of the civil rights movement; just a private citizen who believed he had the same entitlements as any other citizen. -
If it means that his enrollment was not a part of the civil rights movement, then the statement is wrong - just based on the sources cited in the article & private citizens wanting the rights of any other citizen is a fair definition of civil rights.
The statement that he was one of the first black soldiers after integration was confusing - i don't believe that the military was actually desegregated unitl 1954, when the last black unit was dissolved - the process was actually began in 1948 with Truman's EO 9981. Would a statement that he was in the military while the desegregation of the military units was underway be material to the article?
bob
I replaced the link to ABEbooks because this book is quite difficult to find and if it is available to buy at all you might find it there (and failure to locate a copy will sent you to WorldCat.
*James Meredith was not a part of the civil rights movement; just a private citizen who believed he had the same entitlements as any other citizen. -
*If it means that his enrollment was not a part of the civil rights movement, then the statement is wrong - just based on the sources cited in the article & private citizens wanting the rights of any other citizen is a fair definition of civil rights.
I replaced this with an equivalent paragraph later in the article. Mr. Meridith's attitudes are well known and expressed frequently in interviews as is the mutually disrespectful attitude of civil rights leaders that he "suffers from psychological problems." As to his action being part of the civil rights movement, at no time, to my knowledge has James Meredith ever belonged to a civil rights organization, done their bidding, or been extended respect by them. That his actions extended civil rights is obvious. User:Fredbauder
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I agree wholeheartedly with your statement - certainly, Mr. Meredith's relationship with various civil rights leaders has been rocky - & the paragraph above would be an excellent addition to the article - but I'm not sure that's what the first paragraph said & I was unclear as to what exactly what was meant -
I don't have any real heartburn with the abebooks link - I use them myself - but I haven't found the book difficult to find at all (WorldCat says its in 1291 libraries - including 16 in Colorado)
I'll be adding bits & pieces to the page as time permits & look forward to your review.
bob
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Does anyone know what happenned between 1968 and 2002? It seems like there's likely to be some information there somewhere.... -FZ 14:12, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: He lived in New York, made some money working on Wall Street, and then got into trouble as a slumlord when he was the landlord for a lot of low end apartments. Morris 13:27, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
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It seems to me entry is more of a memoir than a history article. Consider revising...
I listened to a BBC podcast on James that is very informative. Is it possible to use this as a source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.250.224.225 (talk) 21:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: General Discussion

message: he was admitted into ole miss on 1 october 1962, and he graduated in just ten months? (18 august 1963) i think this needs some elaboration. (Phobal 17:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  education 

message: *From the article: "On October 1, 1962, he became the first black student at the University of Mississippi after being barred from entering on September 20. His enrollment, opposed by Governor Ross Barnett, sparked riots on the Oxford campus, which required federal troops and U.S. Marshals, which were sent by President John F. Kennedy. The riots led to a violent clash which left two people dead, 48 soldiers injured and 30 U.S. Marshals with gun wounds. His actions are regarded as a pivotal moment in the history of civil rights. He graduated on August 18, 1963."
Am I the only one who thinks that there is something wrong with the paragraph? Gridge 23:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, no: he was barred on September 20, then admitted on October 1. --Saforrest (talk) 03:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem 

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 02:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: As part of the BBCs american election coverage --> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/talkingamerica/2008/09/oxford_town_oxford_town.html this includes info on his current views. (Hypnosadist) 01:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New interview on the BBC

message: The David Duke article claims that Meredith endorsed Duke when he ran for governor of LA. Is this true? If so, I'm quite shocked by this. David Duke is about as segregationist as they come. It should probably be mentioned in the article, if it is true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.99.104.234 (talk) 20:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: David Duke

message: Is he dead or not...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.136.89 (talk) 19:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not seen anything in the news to suggest he is dead. Until there is a reliable news report that he is dead, as far as Wikipedia is concerned he is alive. – ukexpat (talk) 20:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead?

message: Change 'James Eastman' to 'James Eastland', James Eastland is who he ran against, there is no james eastman.
Bkennedy86 (talk) 14:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Bkennedy86, 3 August 2011 

message: I am James Meredith's wife, Judy Alsobrooks Meredith. There are errors in the article including those regarding his family. The correction is: James and his first wife June Wiggins Meredith had three children (John, James & Joseph.) James' second wife Judy had one son (Kip) from a previous marriage. James and Judy had one daughter together (Jessica).<Judy Meredith>Judyameredith (talk) 05:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is confusing... It's not that I'm doubting you, but it seems www.biography.com has it wrong as well. Could you provide a link to an online source so that I can independently verify this? ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:42, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please feel free to re-open this request when independent verifiable sources are provided. Thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 05:30, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: Would like to see the Pulitzer Prize winning photograph taken by Jack Thornell in 1967. The photograph is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nostri-imago/4999515043/. Sgreffenius (talk) 04:21, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't use that image because of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:License_laundering . You could try emailing API to see if they are willing to release it.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographs 

message: Please change the following line under family: "In 1989, the junior James Meredith (then 20) was sentenced to one year's house arrest for his role in a 1987 car crash, in which two of his co-workers were killed and he suffered serious injuries." to match his brother John's information, along with the present context of his life.  The accident is a part of his past but does not define him, and he'd like to be recognized for his changed life and present success.  Please also remove the link to the article regarding the accident.  
Change to: Son James Meredith is now a successful businessman, husband and father, who currently resides in San Francisco, California with his wife, Cara.  
Link to Cara's home page: www.carameredith.com
Thank you!  24.4.57.160 (talk) 15:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It must be properly cited, and written along the lines, as follows: Neutral point of view (NPOV), verifiability and No original research; please see WP:BLP and WP:RS. Kierzek (talk) 19:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to delete the whole sentence. It may belong on an article about the son but not this one. It is not part of this subject's notability.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A good solution. Kierzek (talk) 18:32, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. ~Adjwilley (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 25 June 2013 

message: We have a problem or two at March Against Fear and Mississippi Highway Patrol (MHP). The former shows a March tear-gassed by Mississippi State Police (redlink) in Canton MS. The latter shows MHP escorting and guarding a March en route and in Jackson. Details show that these two articles concern one march (Meredith, Memphis to Jackson, June 1966); no mistake is likely there. Maybe two different state/police agencies? One or both articles must need substantial correction.
See Talk:March Against Fear#Two marches? Two state police groups?.
--P64 (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  1966 march(es) and state police role(s) 

message: I'm a new registered user so can't edit this section myself, but came across an interesting 1963 interview from the "Ocala Star-Banner" (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6PYjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CQUEAAAAIBAJ&dq=negro&pg=4008,6358029) where Meredith states that three white students who "occasionally associated with him" were expelled from Ole Miss. "Other reasons" were given for their dismissals. Thought it was interesting, maybe someone could add it in? (Note that I'm disregarding the somewhat inflammatory headline of that piece because his actual quote doesn't seem to say that, at least as the article presents it). Harleyesque (talk) 17:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition to Ole Miss Section

message: SUSPECT ADMITS HE SHOT MEREDITH; A Guilty Plea in Mississippi Ambush Surprises Court Sentence Is 5 Years Suspect in Shooting of Meredith Admits Guilt and Gets 5 Years
By The Associated Press 
November 22, 1966,
HERNANDO, Miss., Nov. 21 Aubrey James Norvell, a white one-time hardware salesman from Memphis, pleaded guilty today to shooting down James H. Meredith, a Negro civil rights leader, along a Misisissippi road last June.
—Pawyilee (talk) 14:08, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aubrey James Norvell 

message: This article mentions "federal marshalls." I would correct this error myself, but the page is locked. The U.S. Marshals have one L, not two.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.113.192.12 (talk) 01:26, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Kierzek (talk) 02:00, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  marshalls 

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message: The book, The band played Dixie: Race and the liberal conscience at Ole Miss, by Nandine Cohodas documents these specific forms of harassment. Since Meredith was the first and only black student, no citation is needed for "all of whom were white". That phrase it just to remind the readers, and is perfectly reasonable in this context.Nick Beeson (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cohodas 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The following paragraph (copied here) needs a citation. I found a source to cite: After the Removal: The Choctaw in Mississippi, edited by Samuel J. Wells and Roseanna Tubby. This source is on Google Books here. The information is in the introduction, page vii.
"Meredith was born in 1933 in Kosciusko, Mississippi, the son of Roxie (Patterson) and Moses Meredith.[1] He is of African-American, British Canadian, Scots and Choctaw heritage.[2] His family nickname was "J-Boy".[2] European traders intermarried with some Choctaw during the colonial period. In the 1830s, thousands of Choctaw chose to stay in Mississippi and become United States citizens when most of the tribe left their traditional homeland for Indian Territory during the federally imposed removal. Those in the state had unions with European Americans and African Americans (some of whom were enslaved), adding to the multi-racial population in the developing territory.[citation needed]" Msmarie (talk) 16:01, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done And thank you for providing the source. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2018 

message: Date of Mississippi constitution should be 1890, not 1980. 67.252.130.81 (talk) 15:27, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. qwerty6811 :-)  Chat Ping me 15:33, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

text: Done. The date is easily verifiable. RivertorchFIREWATER 16:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2018 

message: Misspelling of absentia; "absententia" under the Challenge to University of Mississippi heading. Trial in absentia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krehnadian (talk • contribs) 01:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks! RivertorchFIREWATER 13:36, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2018 

message: In the "Political Career" section, it says:
[QUOTE]
Following provisions of a new state constitution in 1890 that made voter registration extremely difficult, African Americans had been effectively disenfranchised and the Republican Party had been crippled.
[END QUOTE]
Should this date be 1980?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.74.2 (talk) 14:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Kierzek (talk) 14:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the date wrong? 

message: Well so I noticed that the date of birth is wrong the actually June 29, 1933. 24.38.70.166 (talk) 14:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . Please provide reliable sources that support this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2020 

message: The sentence "On September 20, the federal government gained an enjoinment against enforcement of this Act and of the two state court decrees that had barred Meredith's registration" should be changed to "On September 20, the federal government obtained an injunction against enforcement of this Act and of the two state court decrees that had barred Meredith's registration>'  The phrase "gained an enjoinment" is grammatically incorrect. 47.34.207.133 (talk) 12:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done SSSB (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2020 

message: Change "He is also is an American civil rights movement figure..." to "He is also an American civil rights movement figure...", removing the extraneous "is". Snailshark (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2021 

message: This is about the shooting of Meredith in June 1966.
The article's lead section says "he was shot by a white gunman and suffered numerous wounds".  This sounds as if numerous shots were fired.  Later in the article it says "Meredith was shot and wounded by Aubrey James Norvell".  Even though lead sections are supposed to summarize, this is less specific than the lead section as to the injuries.
In fact, according to these references   , Norvell shot him three times with a shotgun and he suffered 60 wounds.  In the interests of clarity I believe it is appropriate to include all that detail in the article body and to reword the lead section to mention the shotgun.
Also, the Seattle Times link in the references for that paragraph of the article is dead. --184.144.99.72 (talk) 22:52, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request 

message: ADDITION TO THE LAST PRAGRAPH ON OPENING PAGE
In 2002 and again in 2012, the University of Mississippi led year-long series of events to celebrate the 40th and 50th anniversaries of Meredith's integration of the institution. He was among numerous speakers invited to the campus, where a statue of him commemorates his role. The Lyceum-The Circle Historic District at the center of the campus has been designated as a National Historic Landmark for these events.
ADDITION:
In 2021 The Smithsonian Channel commissioned the television documentary ‘Walk Against Fear’ on James Meredith https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13931092/?ref_=nm_knf_i1, produced and directed by friend and long-time collaborator Sol B. River who had previously produced a radio documentary for the BBC World Service on James Meredith https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p011cftm
The award winning documentary achieved a Cablefax Awards Best Overall Content by Genre Winner and The Telly Awards Silver Winner 2021 General – Television. Water8 (talk) 14:46, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You need to provide reliable sources which explicitly support the statement you want to add, and which ideally are not routine coverage from local news sources. Also, avoid adding WP:COATRACK material about the rest. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  02:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2021 

message: I'm requesting to add the titles of some of James Meredith's self-published books to the "Works" section of this article. The publishing date of most of these is not known, but many of them are plainly marked with "Copyright 1995 by James H. Meredith" on the back covers, insinuating that they were simply mass published in the same year. The book "Mississippi" has the year 2005 on it. James Meredith's self-published works are not currently publicly available--they can only be obtained by buying them directly from James Meredith himself.
- Attala: Ancient Mississippi Before 1540
- The Choctaw Nation: 1540-1830
- History of Attala County Mississippi: 1833-1917
- The Father of White Supremacy: 1830-1917
- An Old Man Thinking of Younger Days
- Letters to my Unborn Grandchildren
- Dancing Rabbit - The Destruction of the Choctaw Nation: 1800-1830
- James Meredith vs Ole Miss: 1960-1963
- J.H. is Born
- Return Trip to Japan 1994
- Me and My Kind: An Oral History
- MISSISSIPPI
- Captain Meredith: A Bibliography of My Father
- Queen Attala
- My Native Land: The Choctaw Nation
- Yockanookany: The History if Attala County Mississippi
- The Father of White Supremacy
- Japan: As Seen Through the Eyes of an American Black Man
- History of the South: 1512 to 1840: The Extermination of the Native People in the South
- James H Meredith: Reflections
- The Ten Commandments
- Breaking the System of White Supremacy
- What Every Black Family Ought to Know About Politics
- What Every Black Family Ought to Know About Money
- What Every Black Family Ought to Know About Education
- What Every Black Family Ought to Know About the Library Hjnkl (talk) 03:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Wikipedia is not a place to list every non-notable work someone has published. Please find secondary sourcing that establishes that inclusion of these works is WP:DUE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2022 

message: Why does it say in one section he was an "active republican" but in another section it says he was "highly independent" 🤔 69.141.39.44 (talk) 10:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make a specific change request, what text X you want to change to Y, including supporting sources and a reason for doing so. --Mvqr (talk) 12:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2023 

message: Jackson, Mississippi is not in Jackson County.  Something is wrong here.  The City of Jackson is in Hinds County.  All Mississippians know this.  I don't know where he was convicted. Jackson county is about 200 miles away, on the Gulf Coast, near Mobile, Alabama. Gbloss (talk) 16:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect information about voter registration footnote 14 

message: The article suggested that Meredith was the Republican nominee against Democratic incumbent James Eastland in the 1972 Senate race.
Actually the Mississippi Republican Party recruited a businessman from Meridian, Gil Carmichael, to run in the primary to keep Meredith from being nominated by default. Meredith received only 21% of the vote in the primary, yet the article made no mention of this.21:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  1972 Senate election