Talk:R. R. Ryan

message: This isn't Usenet; it's a page for discussing ways to improve the article on R. R. Ryan. Please stop with the personal and irrelevant stuff. And, 172-whatever, why don't you create (or reactivate) an account? There needs to be some way of communicating with you other than article talk pages. Deor (talk) 21:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The above post sets out Barker's credentials very well - a harmless internet kook.  A couple of points about the wiki entry: the British Library catalogue does not question the Rachel R. Ryan entries.  Go to the catalogue at http://catalogue.bl.uk and search on Ryan, Rachel R. - there are no question marks or anything else doubting the name. Also, the Rachel R. Ryan who wrote "A Biography of Manchester" (1937), and who was the daughter of C.E. Montague, is not necessarily the Rachel Ryan who wrote "Dinners for Beginners: an economic cooking book for the single-handed" (1934), which Barker seems to think is a cook book for one-armed cooks!  My own humble opinion is that R.R. Ryan was a man - it might well be Cameron Carr, or it might be a man named R.R. Ryan, but for the purposes of completeness we need to include the Rachel R. Ryan identified in the BL catalogue.  I suspect that the British Library saw the Rachel R. Ryan book on Manchester, and assumed R.R. Ryan was the same person.  If the wiki entry is to be complete and objective, it needs to set out both male and female arguments.  And if Barker can identify R.R. Ryan conclusively, good on him.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.7.140.3 (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cool it, guys

message: Coming to Ryan fresh, I have to say I find the article a bit frustrating.
The connection is made that Ryan, Carr and Galton are the same person from the Random House contracts, but then there is no evidence given to prove that the Ryan/Carr/Galton person is Evelyn Bradley.  I have been able to get hold of the articles in "All Hallows" and the "Book and Magazine Collector" article gives no evidence. Does the Bradley family have proof that R. R. Ryan is Evelyn Bradley?
At the moment the article requires a great leap of faith.
FardelsBear66 (talk) 13:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New to R. R. Ryan 

message: According to this review of "The Subjugated Beast",  John Pelan claims "R. R. Ryan" was actually a woman named Denice Jeanette Bradley-Ryan. 176.61.97.121 (talk) 18:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  R. R. Ryan- Denice Jeanette Bradley-Ryan ? 

message: Greetings, everyone! New here. Also a descendent of the author. 
I have noticed the Evelyn Bradley / “R. R. Ryan” Wikipedia page is behind the curve and lacking some accuracy and details, so I am providing some updates.
Relationships:
Having sussed out and confirmed ancestry research, I have long thought it fair and best to clarify the personal relationships. (This particular info is by now publicly available, although it can be paywalled)
Mr. Evelyn Bradley appears to have had children with 3 women. (via marriage and birth/baptism/census records)
1st with Florence Daisy Bailey. Married 1909. They had offspring. She died shortly after.
2nd with Elizabeth Imeson Hornsby. Married 1910. They had offspring. (Of note: There is no divorce record for 2nd marriage.) 
Annie Elsworthy Oppenheim Pinto Howard appears as Evelyn's 3rd and remaining life partner, whom he also had children with, including daughter Denice Jeanette Bradley. 
- For posterity: There is no marriage record for the relationship with Annie Howard and she technically does not fall under category of “2nd wife”.
- Interesting tidbit: Annie Howard was also an actress who had a history of collaboration with Mr. Bradley-Ryan in the theatre venue. Further theatre connections are noted through both of Annie’s parents. Annie Howard is also a half sibling to members of the Redgrave (theatre) family.  
October5th (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  UPDATES (Relationships) 

message: For those wanting research details: The address of “80b Lansdowne-Place” in Hove, Sussex is key.
ONE: This reportedly is the last given address on the contract with publisher Herbert Jenkins for author R. R. Ryan. (1940, No Escape)
TWO: How do we know “Rex Ryan” is connected? 80b Lansdowne Place, is one significant bridge - the electoral records with this address (for the time period) record “Rex Ryan” as occupant.  (The Rex Ryan name is recorded in some Brighton/Hove censuses as well, opposed to the birth name of Evelyn Bradley.) 
THREE: The connection between Evelyn Bradley and (musical-hall artist) Rex Ryan is noted in British newspapers reporting on his death. (Suicide at home.) And, some articles do further specifically note him to be the resident of Lansdowne. More confirmation. 
Importantly, FOUR: The death certificate specifically notes “Evelyn Bradley otherwise Rex Ryan / theatrical manager and author” with the abode “80b Lansdowne Place, Hove”.
(This info is now technically publicly available but I recognize that direct record sources, plus newspaper archives, etcetera, can be paywalled.)
October5th (talk) 20:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Addendum: The 1939 census on 80b Lansdowne Place records “Rex Ryan” as an occupant and the quoted occupation is: “Writer (Fiction)” October5th (talk) 06:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Address: 80b Lansdowne Place