Talk:Te Atairangikaahu

message: Does anyone know who her successor will be?
He or she will most likely be named within the next few days. aww 13:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started a stub article at Tuheitia Paki. Please add to it.-gadfium 22:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her successor...? 

message: The first nation link redirects to the indigenous Canadian people. I don't particularly want to remove the link, mainly because of my ignorance on what "first nation" refers to in the Pacific Islands and Oz/NZ. Can someone clarify and maybe edit either this or the first nation article. Thanks.
Tellkel 15:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First nation

message: The Methodist Church of New Zealand has another image of Kaahu--  http://www.methodist.org.nz/index.cfm/Touchstone/July_2006/Maori_queen_honoured.html  --  Zanimum 16:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was hoping to see a photo of her from her 1966 coronation or at least of photo of her as a younger woman.  I'll look for one but I'm not very experienced at uploading photos to wikipedia.Lisapollison 17:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this one such an image? older edit --Kunzite 18:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've reverted it to that image, the one that was up when I made my comment. The one that had replaced it was an AP image, which we should never use.  --  Zanimum 19:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I've replaced the image with this one taken at her Coronation in 1966. -- Manaroa 14:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement image 

message: Radio NZ, NZ Herald, BBC, dozens of other sources have her as Te Atairangikaahu. I've changed it to that.  --  Zanimum 16:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Māori Wikipedia site has her as Te Ātairangikaahu FUNgus guy 00:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Just pronounce every vowel and you will be fine Te Ā-ta-i-ra-ngi-kaa-hu WP 11:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I don't think we can use this image in the article; according to the fair use rationale "the use of low-resolution images of magazine covers to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question, with the publication name either visible on the image itself or written in the image description above [...] qualifies as fair use". This isn't the case here, and in fact Wikipedia:Fair use specifically states that "an image of a magazine cover, used only to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover" is not fair use. Ziggurat 00:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's the fair use tag that's wrong. The image is not of the whole cover, and it does not include the publication's name. So it's not really an image of the cover, but simply an image of Te Atairangikaahu, and the fact that the source is a magazine is not especially relevant to whether it would qualify as fair use in this article.  would probably be a better tag. Whether NZ editors can rely on fair use is another question. -- Avenue 01:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's certainly a better tag, although I'm personally diffident about using fair use images at all. Ziggurat 02:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: It says the foll ref was "retrieved" which implies it is online. What's the URL pls? "Four decades of our kind of queen; THEY SAY", The Dominion Post, 2006-05-27. Retrieved on 2006-08-15. Nurg 00:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a LexisNexis search. It's not linkable. 
SECTION: NEWS; NATIONAL; THE INSIDER; Pg. 15
LENGTH: 1363 words
HEADLINE: Four decades of our kind of queen; 
THEY SAY
BYLINE: SCHOUTEN Hank
...
LOAD-DATE: May 30, 2006
 --Kunzite 12:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  URL for Dominion Post ref? 

message: Here's a source with a full title and names of all children as well as predecessors. --Kunzite 22:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lineage 

message: Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility) says: "Titles of knighthood such as Sir and Dame are not normally included in the article title: e.g. Arthur Conan Doyle, not "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle" (which is a redirect). However, Sir may be used in article titles as a disambiguator when a name is ambiguous and one of those who used it was knighted, e.g. Sir Arthur Dean. A person's full title (including both prefix and post-nominals) should be given in the article itself. Honorary knights – roughly, those not from the Commonwealth – are not called Sir; knights bachelor have no post-nominals." I read this as saying that this article should be called Te Atairangikaahu not Dame Te Atairangikaahu. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Have moved it back to its old name. Schwede66 21:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name of this article 

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