Category talk:Irish Roman Catholics

message: Can it be nominated again?  Can we restrict the vote to Irish folk only ;-)  Kfor 00:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Can it be nominated again

message: What is the rational for this cat, were persons notability has nothing to do with religion. See this discussion.. --Domer48 09:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing secterian cat 

message: I am going to remove the guidance as no other Irish religious cagtegory has the guidance, making it biased to exist for only one group. Please, no one readd the guidance without also adding the same guidance to all Irish religious categories. 75.34.59.92 (talk) 04:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Restored the guidance.  There is clear consensus for its inclusion.  By all means, seek consensus to have the same guidance included in other religious cats. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 09:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Currently I'm seeing 3 editors who want it included, and one editor who doesn't. Plus an anon IP address.  There is no consensus to remove it. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 16:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: The consensus for this category is that the guidance should remain.  I think its a bloody silly category without the guidance - it could be added to over 80% of all articles on Irish people without it, simply because of them being baptised and regardless of their own actual beliefs.  And yes, I also agree the guidance should apply to all such religious/belief system categories, Irish and elsewhere.  But, sorry, not strongly enough to go around every such category seeking its inclusion, so I'll stick to keeping it in cats I've stumbled across in my own area of interest, namely Ireland. Regards, BastunBaStun not BaTsun 16:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: You seem to be complaining that this category adheres to policy. Any editor, including you, can remove any inappropriate religious and sexual orientation categories from any article, and, per WP:CAT/R and WP:BLPCAT, you should do so. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:11, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit break

message: If an individual has publicly identified oneself as a Roman Catholic (or any religion, etc.) then they are eligible to be represented under that category per Wikipedia's own guidelines. If you wish to change the conditions for Category Irish Roman Catholics then you must do so with every other religion as well. Thanks. -RiverHockey (talk) 03:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. That's one of two criteria.  The second is "The subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to the subject's notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources."  Therefore the category is perfectly appropriate for clerics, missionaries, saints, martyrs, politicians (where there faith was central to their political life, e.g., Daniel O'Connell), and similar.  It is not appropriate for singers, actors, sportspeople, celebrities, politicians (where their faith is not especially relevant to their politics), etc.  That is WP policy.  It should indeed be applied to other religious categories, too (and indeed to atheist/agnostic categories) - but I don't have them on my watchlist.  I do have this one. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 08:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, why arent the mods so vigilant in removing all the other Irish religious categories?  I still disagree with the categorization, one either is or isn't a Roman Catholic. With that said you should change the heading to Category Irish Roman Catholics notable for being Roman Catholic.......  -RiverHockey (talk) 06:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any editor, including you, can remove inappropriate categories from the other Irish religious categories. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 10:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Categorization