Talk:Commander

message: I am removing and rewriting the following passage:
The title (originally "master and commander") originated in the 18th century to describe naval lieutenants who commanded smaller (unrated) ships such as ship-sloops or brig-sloops. Officers who held command retained this title only during their period in command of that particular vessel; when they left that vessel, they reverted to their substantive rank of lieutenant. The Royal Navy shortened "master and commander" to just "commander" in 1794, when it became a formal (permanent) rank; however, the term "master and commander" remained (unofficially) in common parlance for several years.
This is not correct, and in fact conflicts with the cited source. The rank this author appears to be describing is the rank of "Lieutenant Commanding," which evolved into the similar but distinct modern rank of "Lieutenant Commander." I will therefore remove all references to the "temporary appointment" and the "return to their substantive rank." This should instead be placed in the wiki article on "Lieutenant Commander." TheSwordandScales (talk) 00:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited "As a Naval Rank" 

message: Horatio Hornblower was not a Commander in Hornblower and the Atropos; he was a full Captain, in command of a large 22-gun Sloop of War which was a (according to Forester/the novels) borderline command between a full captain or a commander.
This could have been easily missed, if reading the books out of order; the distinction is not made clear in Atropos but rather at the end of Hotspur when he is promoted by the retiring Admiral Cornwallis.
Further, he was made a commander twice in Lieutenant Hornblower; initially he was made one by an overseas admiral, which was not confirmed due to the Peace of Amiens, and later made one shortly before the resumption of hostilities.
Way TMI for the main article.
Nkedel 22:50, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hornblower 

message: This page seems to talk of a commander only as a rank, and does not talk about commanders in general (as a duty, a person who commands people). Don't know about other armies, but in the Israel Defense Forces, a commander has many distinct features (insignia, duties, etc.), regardless of rank. That is, a corporal who is a commander is very different from one who is not (although all officers are commanders other than some NCOs). If someone can, please write more about the generic term commander. I can probably come up with something next week, but it would be better if someone else with more global military knowledge wrote this. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 21:00, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have articles at Commanding Officer and Officer Commanding. I suspect these distinctions between commanders and non-commanders are more down to the fact that Israel has a conscript army than anything else. In Britain, for instance, a corporal is a corporal is a corporal, whether he commands something or not. Same authority, same insignia, same status. I've always seen commander as a fairly informal term without a great deal more to say - it's someone in charge of a unit and that's about it (which is probably why there's not a lot about it in the article already - see the third and fourth paragraphs). But if Israel (and/or other countries) see it differently then it's worth a section. -- Necrothesp 22:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those articles are accurate so far as Australian usage is concerned, but this article is highly misleading. The term commanding officer is jealously guarded... to refer to a platoon commander as commanding officer (although they are both an officer and are in command, at least in a colloquial sense) would be a bit like referring to a captain of the US marines as captain when aboard ship. It is just not thinkable. Andrewa (talk) 20:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Commander only as rank?

message: Mission Specialist links here, I think there needs to be either some info here or a new article. 84.144.37.193 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As of December 2016, this comment is obsolete; Mission Specialist is now a stub article. JustinTime55 (talk) 14:23, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Commander in Space Flight

message: The top of the page was getting messy, and there are quite a few propertys that use the name Commander, if you fell this was uncalled for, please revert my edit. --Amckern (talk) 05:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have changed it to  and cleaned up your disambiguation page, too Stephenb (Talk) 09:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: I made "In fiction" a section of its own for 2 reasons: 1. To separate it from the real-world non-military uses of "Commander." 
2. Much of the fiction that uses "Commander" uses it as a military rank. Examples: Forbidden Planet, Star Trek, Star Wars, and Battlestar Galactica.Wjwtk (talk) 17:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "In fiction"

message: In the British Navy, 1914-1918, Flight Lieutenants were promoted to Flight Commander. What was their role in the hierarchy? Vernon White . . . Talk  20:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Flight Commander

message: This is conflict of interwiks. I see two reference to Spanish section, and it is not correct. Please delete one of these. For example, I don't know now, how insert interwiki in russian article. Vladimir-SP (talk) 21:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  InterWiki 

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