Talk:Melissa Farley/Archive 1

message: An extensive list of quotes like this belongs on Wikiquote, not Wikipedia. The quotes should go there, then a link to Wikiquote added to the bottom of this article. The Andrea Dworkin article provides a good example of this.
Posting somebody's entire CV is not really considered appropriate either (though a listing of most notable books and articles definitely should be included). Hosting something like this off of Wikipedia and then linking to it should be OK, though. Peter G Werner 00:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes and links 

message: I'll be fixing the citation for all the quotes on the quotation page tomorrow. I hope what I was able to accomplish this evening was helpful. --Nikkicraft 08:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: fixing the citations on wikiquotes page

message: We need to delete "Unknown-importance biography articles" and also perhaps "unassessed". How would that be done?
:Those go with the large orangey box (WikiProject Biography Box) at the top of this page.  It is so people who are part of that project can go thru all the biographies and make sure they are up to standard.  They have not gotten to this one yet.  Click on various links in the box and you can learn more about it.  CyntWorkStuff 06:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why can't i access the categories at the bottom of the discussion page?

message: Peter, thanks for transferring the quotes over. I had not known how to set up a Wikiquotes page, but I have opened up a Wikiquotes account and have now added the sources for all the Melissa Farley's quotations that I collected yesterday. (You made a section for "unsourced" quotations. I removed that because there really shouldn't be unsourced quotations for Living People (seems to me). Now on this, and associated pages, there are not just irresponsible speculations casting aspersions about the reliability of Farley's research, but actual citations and links that document how thorough her research actually is. --Nikkicraft 20:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikiquote page citations and Farley's research

message: Hi, Can someone please let me know how I can fix all the "Living_people" links on this discussion page? I went to that particular web page and have unsuccessfully tried various combinations and can't get it to work. thanx! --Nikkicraft 21:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The text WP:BLP in brackets should provide a link. Peter G Werner 22:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Graci. --Nikkicraft 22:43, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Hi again. I had not meant that exact url. But actually it's better than the one I had in mind. So can you tell me the exact html coding that I should enter in the body of the article to direct the link there? Sorry for the confusion but I'm not familiar with all the various codes. I'm going to spend some time in the "help" area when I can ever get a chance. --Nikkicraft 23:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean. In any event, Wikipedia encoding aren't HTML. Usually the best way to learn it is, if you see another page that looks the way you want the page you're editing to look, hit the "edit" button and copy that text. Since my knowledge is far from complete, its often how I do things. Peter G Werner 05:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I have been going to sites looking for how to do that and I can't find it, but i'll keep looking. The only place I can find the link is down in the caterories section and that won't work in the body of the article any way I have tried it. thanks.--Nikkicraft 18:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing [[Living People]] links 

message: Peter, you need to document your inaccurate claim that Farley has not researched off street prostitution.  You're wrong. Also you're requesting peer review of research that has already been peer reviewed. Are you actually suggesting that Wiki reviewers supplant the rigorous professional standards of peer review? : ) Farley has been peer reviewed in more than 20 law, psychology and medical journals, including Transcultural Psychiatry, Yale Journal of Law & Feminism, Journal of Trauma Practice, Women and Health, Feminism and Psychology, Women & Criminal Justice, Women & Therapy, Journal of Family Practice, Journal of Substance Abuse Treatment, Psychological Reports, Psychotherapy & Psychosomatics, to name a few. --Nikkicraft 05:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) I didn't make the peer review request, but I'm glad it was made, since its brought other people in to properly moderate this process. 2) You are the one who is misunderstanding the meaning of "peer review" in this context – this is Wikipedia peer review, not academic peer review. The purpose of Wikipedia peer review is to evaluate Wikipedia articles according to the standards of Wikipedia – NPOV, proper citation, no original research, that kind of thing.I really suggest you familiarize yourself with the basic guidelines of Wikipedia so you better understand the process before launching ill-informed criticisms. I particularly recommend that you read through the section on Neutral Point of View (one of the most important rules of Wikipedia), because most of your contribution to the Farley article was anything but that. Peter G Werner 19:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHAT ABOUT PEER REVIEW DON'T Y'ALL UNDERSTAND? 

message: Hello everybody! I've been asked by an anonymous user here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pv7721&diff=prev&oldid=78177641 to explain my edit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melissa_Farley&diff=78068280&oldid=72720999 Actually, for me a wiki stub is like a one liner article. And this one is largely more than one screen of information. So it is definitely NOT a wiki stub! Then there is this wikiproject of biographies that has filled all the talk pages with a template indicating the level of the article! As I don't know the project's way of labeling the article I don't have the slightest idea what's a stub for the biographies wikiproject. I think it's up to whoever knows bet to rerate this article. Thanks! --Vlad|-> 16:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It most certainly is a stub and I've added a tag for it again – just look at the actual content of the article. It may have a rather extensive bibliography (and its highly questionable whether that even belongs on a Wikipedia article), but the content is minimal. Part of the problem is that, so far, editors of this article have been so highly partisan that the only way to deal with the NPOV dispute in the short term was to knock it back to a stub. Hopefully, at some point well be able to come up with an NPOV article that's a little more informative. Peter G Werner 21:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation