Talk:Mrs Macquarie's Chair

message: I don't believe the word "point" was a Gadigal word.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:3400:21E:2B0:5011:2168:CBCB:B237 (talk) 03:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Yurong "point"

message: It'd be nice to have a photo of the view from the chair, seeings as that's the reason it was carved in the first place.  Any Syndey editors able to oblige?  I'm curious to see the view! 86.142.104.222 (talk) 13:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo needed 

message: Now that we've agreed (per #Requested move above) that Mrs Macquarie's Chair is the common name and correctly punctuated, what of Mrs Macquaries Point and Mrs Macquaries Road? Ought they have apostrophes for the same reasons? Are we using common or official names here?
* The point might be a geographical feature, whose official name might have the apostrophe removed, per place naming conventions in Australia, and http://www.ga.gov.au/place-names/PlaceDetails.jsp?fctext=PT&submit1=NSW40064&fctext=TRIG suggests that this is the case.
* The road is a little more complicated. Current maps show the current road without an apostrophe (per convention) but the current road is not the original road - see http://dx.doi.org/10.4227%2F11%2F50495BA10E3E0, section 3.1 - which followed a different route for at least some of the way (eg along her Wall). That document refers to Lady Macquarie's Road, but the inscription on the chair itself says Mrs Macquaries Road. The photo of the inscription on the chair has a very small dot that may or may not be an apostrophe! The convention of dropping the apostrophe didn't start until well after the original road was built.
Some rewording re the Road might be required in any case. The Chair was at the end of the original Road, but it is not at the end of the existing Road - it is halfway along a loop road.
Mitch Ames (talk) 13:32, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "Mr's Macquarie's Road, 1816" is engraven in stone, according to sources.  I'd stick with the apostrophe, and discount the so-called "official" renderings.  Dicklyon (talk) 02:22, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: @Dicklyon, Google Books' Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society doesn't show me the relevant text, so I can't tell from that, but it may be worth your stating explicitly whether the reference purports to refer to the engraving on Mrs Macquarie's Chair - which we can see in :File:Mrs Macquarie's Chair 2013.jpg. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:36, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably that's the stone referred to; it says "It may have escaped the notice of many persons that another inscription is in this locality—"Mrs. Macquarie's Road, 1816,” will be found engraven deeply on the chiselled face of the first large rock on the eastern carriage drive as you turn to the look-out."  The image clearly shows extra space and a tiny apostrophe before the final "s".  Dicklyon (talk) 06:41, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does anybody have - and can they post - photographs (the higher the resolution the better) of the "Mrs Macquarie's Road, 1816" (without or without punctuation) engraving? Presumably it is not :File:Mrs Macquarie's Chair 2013.jpg, which has a lot more than that, ie "... Called Mrs Macquaries Road ... Completed on the 13th Day of June 1816" (again, punctuation is debable). Mitch Ames (talk) 02:34, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Just when I thought the matter was settled, it's raised its ugly head again! See: Talk:Macquarie Culvert#Apostrophe Mitch Ames (talk) 09:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The official name of the point, as entered in the official NSW Geographical Names Register, excludes the apostrophe. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs Macquaries Point, Mrs Macquaries Road 

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