Talk:Medical physics

message: I think the ABR will start to offer the new Doctor of Medical Physics degree in approximately 5 years (?).  The article only talked about the new residency requirement but none of the DMP stuff, can someone post more information on that please?  Thank you.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by Physinmed (talk • contribs) 00:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The American Board of Radiology does not grant degrees. At present I am aware of only a single CAMPEP-accredited graduate program offering the DMP option (Vanderbilt). This information could certainly be integrated into the page, however. Eclobb2 (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: The new DMP degree

message: As a medical physicist I'm slightly horrified by the claim that "physicist" is a misnomer. In the UK to practise as a medical physicist you must have an acredited masters degree in physics (or equivalent). It far from unusual for medical physicists to have physics degrees, physics masters or phd's in physics. In fact it is almost universal here.
:Feel free to change it. With your credentials you probably know more about the field than any other Wikipedia contributor. JFW | T@lk 13:54, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - in the UK Medical Physics refers to the application of physics in medicine. I've reverted the article back to the version as of 23 October. Medical engineering is a field in its own right. The changes made to the article since then seem to reflect a personal POV. In the UK, medical physicists are encompassed by the protected designation of 'Clinical Scientist', and under the new grading structure (Agenda for Change) that is being instigated in the UK as I write, the job titles of national profiles for these jobs have (Medical Physics) tagged to the end. --Fizzy 11:53, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I also agree. This guy is the former head of the department of Medical Physics at University College London - one of the largest such departments in the UK. He is an FRS, and is about to go off and be the Chief Executive of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC). He has no medical physics MSc. I would consider myself a medical physicist too and my first degree is in electrical and electronic engineering, with a PhD in medical physics. Drkirkby 18:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: Please do not put clickable links in the middle of an article.  I've moved them down to the external links section, which is the appropriate place for external links.  Also, remember that the goal here is to write an encyclopedic article about this topic, not to provide a web directory for related organizations, etc.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: I'm always nervous about anonymous editors (or any editor, for that matter) changing just a number in an article.  Does anyone know whether this is correct?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If I recall correctly, 2012 is for the regular ABR. 2014 is for the residencies.--Zereshk (talk) 16:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ? 

message: I removed the statement that "Medical physics is a division of Healthcare science". "Healthcare science" sounds like either an institution-specific term or a novel term. I was mostly prompted to do this because the user who made the edit was also the user who created the Healthcare science page on the same day as adding that phrase to the opening sentence of the medical physics article. Wantdouble (talk) 02:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Medical Physics is however a healthcare profession, as per the WHO ISCO Classification of Health Professions.--Nightryder84 (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed "Healthcare science" from first sentence 

message: I'm proposing that the article Medical biophysics be merged into Medical physics. See Talk:Medical_biophysics for some discussion. Wantdouble (talk) 02:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I moved the "merge" discussion comments all to one topic. Shroomy115 (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Merging is fine, as long as the title be kept as "Medical Physics", and the material pertaining to "medical biophysics" be presented in some subsection of the article. The American Board of Radiology certifies only physicians and "Medical Physicists"; i.e. there is no such thing as a "ABR board certified medical biophysicist". The WHO classifies "Medical Physics" as a health profession. Medical Biophysics is more of an academic department name.Nightryder84 (talk) 01:46, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: I don't know anyone that claims to be a medical physicist that does most of the things in the section "Physiological measurement techniques", except the ultrasound and laser aspects. The balance of those things look more like bioengineering and biophysics. With more than 30 years experience in university, private hospital, public hospital, and vulture center settings, I feel confident in my statement. That is not to say that some educational institutions attempting to merge programs may not be pulling the medical physicist programs into the bioengineering/biophysics programs. e.g. Georgia Tech pulled medical physics into School of Mechnical Engineering, but that doesn't give them an ME degree at graduation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.162.65.189 (talk) 14:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Medical Physics 

message: This article is a hodgepodge of poorly organized material. Medical Physics is a well-defined health profession as per the definitions and policies of Medicare, AAPM, ABR, and CAMPEP organizations (unlike Biomedical Physics, Medical Biophysics, or any other similar permutation of physics + biology + medicine) . Lots of clutter should be trimmed off from this article, as some of my colleagues have mentioned above.--Nightryder84 (talk) 02:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy tag 

message: Am I the only one who feels that this article needs to be completely overhauled? Medical physics is a science and this article should reflect that as other articles on subfields of physics do. As is, it seems to be a (poor) article on the "Medical Physicist" profession, which is distinctly different though could be incorporated into the general article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eclobb22 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because people who are not medical physicists here are trying to push "medical physics" to be "physics in medicine and biology". The two are not the same, and they are not subsets of each other. The former is like occupational therapy or orthopedic surgery. The latter is a branch of basic science. They may overlap, but they are not the same.--Nightryder84 (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete overhaul needed 

message: I propose that the Education section be moved to a page concerning the profession rather than the science, possibly Medical Physicist. Zen78 (talk) 17:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The better suggestion would be to move all the science stuff to Physics in Medicine, which would deal with the science itself, as per 1 2 3, and leave the professional stuff here. Medical Physics is defined as "the application of physics to the needs (and not necessarily 'study') of medicine. One could be studying the effects of quantum dots on neurons, but it's not going to be 'medical physics' if it's not clinically used. Nightryder84 (talk) 17:24, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, unless there are any major objections I intend to move the majority of the useful parts of this article to medical physicist in a few weeks. Beevil (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving the Education section 

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