Talk:Miss Universe 2006

message: Detail of Miss Universe pageants in recent years, according to MUO website and Order of announcement during the Live Telecast - they are similar. There was no exact placements in top 10 and top 20 that year so please don't changed alphabetical order of country name. Thank you.
# Miss Universe 2006:
* Note: There was a small order mistake of Denmark's placement on MUO website. There was no exact placements in top 10 and top 20 that year. 
According to MUO	Order of announcement (Live Telecast)
*Alice Panikian, Miss Canada (1st)
*Kenisha Thom, Miss Trinidad/Tobago (2nd)
*Desiree Duran, Miss Bolivia (3rd)
*Priscila Perales, Miss Mexico (4th)
*Valerie Dominguez, Miss Colombia (5th)	
*Canada (1st)
*Trinidad/Tobago (2nd)
*Bolivia (3rd)
*Japan
*Puerto Rico
*USA
*Switzerland
*Mexico (4th)
*Colombia (5th)
*Paraguay
*Dina Fekadu, Miss Ethiopia (1st)
*Anna Litvinova, Miss Russia (2nd)
*Rafeala Zanella, Miss Brazil (3rd)
*Betina Faurbye, Miss Denmark (mistake)
*Josephine Alhanko, Miss Sweden (4th)
*Charm Onwarin Osathanond, Miss Thailand (5th)
*Adrienn Bende, Miss Hungary (6th)
*Neha Kapur, Miss India (7th)
*Magali Romitelli, Miss Argentina (8th)
*Inna Tsymbaliuk, Miss Ukraine (9th)	
*Puerto Rico
*Denmark (mistake)
*Switzerland
*Colombia
*Ethiopia (1st)
*Russia (2nd)
*Canada
*Japan
*Brazil (3rd)
*Sweden (4th)
*Trinidad/Tobago
*Thailand (5th)
*Bolivia
*Hungary (6th)
*USA
*Paraguay
*India (7th)
*Argentina (8th)
*Ukraine (9th)
*Mexico
# Miss Universe 2007:
* Official placements of Miss Universe 2007 
According to MUO	Order of announcement (Live Telecast)
*Miss India, Puja Gupta (1st)
*Miss Angola, Micaela Reis (2nd)
*Miss Tanzania, Flaviana Matata (3rd)
*Miss Nicaragua, Xiomara Blandino (4th)
*Miss Mexico, Rosa Maria Ojeda Cuen (5th)	
*Brazil 
*India (1st)
*Japan 
*Angola (2nd)
*Venezuela 
*USA 
*Korea 
*Tanzania (3rd)
*Nicaragua (4th)
*Mexico (5th)
*Miss Thailand, Farung Yuthithum; (1st)
*Miss Denmark, Zak lina Sojic (2nd)
*Miss Slovenia, Tjasa Kokalj (3rd)
*Miss Ukraine, Lyudmyla Bikmullina (4th)
*Miss Czech Republic, Lucie Hadasova. (5th)	
*Venezuela 
*Thailand (1st)
*Denmark (2nd)
*Nicaragua 
*Angola 
*Slovenia (3rd)
*USA 
*Brazil 
*India 
*Mexico 
*Japan 
*Ukraine (4th)
*Tanzania 
*Korea 
*Czech Rep (5th)
# Miss Universe 2008:
* Official placements of Miss Universe 2008 
According to MUO	Order of announcement (Live Telecast)
*Miss Kosovo, Zana Krasniqi (1st)
*Miss Australia, Laura Dundovic (2nd)
*Miss Spain, Claudia Moro (3rd)
*Miss USA, Crystle Stewart (4th)
*Miss Italy, Claudia Ferraris (5th)	
*Kosovo (1st)
*Australia (2nd)
*Spain (3rd)
*Mexico 
*Colombia 
*USA (4th)
*Dominican Rep. 
*Russia 
*Italy (5th)
*Venezuela
*Miss Vietnam, Lam Thuy Nguyen (1st)
*Miss South Africa, Tansey Coetzee (2nd)
*Miss Japan, Hiroko Mima (3rd)
*Miss Hungary, Jazmin Dammak (4th)
*Miss Czech Republic, Eliska Buckova (5th)	
*Venezuela
*Kosovo 
*Mexico 
*Vietnam (1st)
*South Africa (2nd)
*Australia 
*Japan (3rd)
*Dominican Rep. 
*Italy 
*Colombia 
*Russia 
*Hungary (4th)
*Czech Rep. (5th)
*USA 
*Spain
Angelo De La Paz (talk) 11:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: No exact placements as of 2006

message: When wikilinking to a delegate on this list, please remember to add the delegate to :Category:Miss Universe 2006 delegates. -- PageantUpdater 05:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of delegates to this list

message: I have removed the "predicted list of winners" per WP:Not a crystal ball.  This should not be here, I think, unless it is cited from a reputable predictor.--Brian G 19:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predictions 

message: I believe the note about there being a top twenty should not be included until there is a more reliable source than Global Beauties to verify it.  Opinions? -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 21:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top 20 - Source? 

message: I have two questions... first, should this even include a list of delegates (see Miss Universe 2005 and Miss Universe 2004, which did not include a list of delegates)... and second, if the list is retained, should it be separated into continents or be listed alphabetically?  I would prefer alphabetically, because with the three-column formatting the headings are difficult to view and this list practically requires you to use "find" to find the delegate you want. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 04:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that having a list of delegates is good, but I liked it much better when it was alphabetical instead of grouped by continents. --Brian G 17:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer the alphabetical listing. Or more exactly, how about putting these information in a table (i.e. column for country, name, age, height, placing at Ms. Universe), in that way, it will be easier to navigate instead of the current arrangement. In terms of relevance, people (esp those who are ignorant of pageants) may not find this useful. And there are also lists of delegates per edition made available in the Internet. Then again, this article's list may be more informative as it provides age and height of the delegates. Together with some other information (trivia, results, etc.), this article may actually be useful, as leading pageant websites remove such feature pages whenever a new edition is about to take place. --Joey80 13:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I returned it to alphabetical last night and took out the "excess" names -- I guess this is useful in that it provides wikilinks to delegates who did not place, but it definitely needed to go back to straight alphabetising. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 21:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Delegates 

message: Hey, this is quite a useful piece on the pageant. i have saved it in my local m/c lest some one remove the details )people have questioned there relevance.--Hydman 08:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: useful 

message: why was the controversy portion removed? Live! 05:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  controversy removed? 

message: I currently think the look of the delegates table is terrible and that there are MoS issues here.  I propose removing all the bolding etc, but also think that the heights and ages should be removed to reduce space, and because I think this information is not necessary here.  I propose redoing the table in the format of Miss Universe 2007.  I will make the changes in a few days if there is no objection. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 07:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As there has been no comment in the five days since I left that message I will go ahead and reformat the table.  If you object, please leave comments here rather than reverting, so we can discuss the issue. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 09:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting of delegates table 

message: Miss Universe 2006
Angelo de la Paz, the things you listed in regards to Miss Universe 2006 are irrelevant; it's your own interpretation and it has never been published in an official Miss Universe article.  
An official article of the placings exists and it should have priority.
Wikipedia states that "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable"
Do not delete the official Miss Universe link of the placements:
http://www.missuniverse.com/press/07.23.06.html
MUCfan (talk) 11:58, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not delete the official Miss Universe link of the placements for Miss Universe 2006 

message: All of Miss Universe 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, and 2002 placements can be found on the official Miss Universe link http://www.missuniverse.com/press/index.html and they all have different placements than the ones listed on Wikipedia respective articles for each year. In some of them there isn't any source cited for the rankings, on others is cited only unofficial sources known for their errors http://www.pageantopolis.com/international/universe_2006.htm and http://www.pageant-almanac.com/miss-universe/semi-finalists.php
The general official site is given, but not the direct link http://www.missuniverse.com/press/index.html with all the information about the ranking in the above years.
The source http://www.pageant-almanac.com/miss-universe/semi-finalists.php is unreliable because they have listed the rankings for the rest of the top 15 in Miss Universe 2005, but the official site http://www.missuniverse.com/press/05.30.05.html doesn't have them even listed(they have only 10 listed).
Wikipedia's verifiability policy states that the standard is verifiability, meaning, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, and this reliable source is http://www.missuniverse.com/press/05.30.05.html, not the websites of pageantpolis and pageantalmanac.
Nfirm1295 (talk) 14:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact is that we're never going to know why they put them in that order.  Deciding one way or another, as you correctly stated, is WP:OR.  In the fact of this, we either have to make the decision to put it in alphabetical order (and put a disclaimer as such) or to simply put it in the order used by MUO with no disclaimer.  When there is no clear path, I'd say the best thing to do is just use MUO's order, but really there's no really obvious right or wrong way.  PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  19:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Errors in the placements of Miss Universe 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, and 2002 listed on Wikipedia''' 

message: Since no scores were shown on TV or made public elsewhere from 2003 to 2006, there should be a source for the scores that are published in the entry. It looks like a fabrication otherwise. Again, the Miss Universe pageant did NOT show competition scores that year. Fra77 (talk) 19:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Competition Scores

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