Talk:Mark Selby

message: This page needs to have its referances fixed. Use  and . Also remeber that citations do not belong in the infobox --CrazyChip 23:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd add that it's preferable to use , so that each reference can be easily re-used if needed. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 23:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  As i added a citation to the article i had to implement the correct  listing and ref style. The old ref list i moved here. Do NOT copy this list back to the page. citations should be used as described above by SMcCandlish
Old ref list:
*Official Mark Selby Snooker Profile
*World Eight Ball Pool Federation latest News
*Selby Prepares for Ebdon Spectacle
*Selby Beats Ebdon in Second Round Clash --CrazyChip 00:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Have these actually all been put back into the article, properly marked up? — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 04:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: My updates to reflect the new career winnings were rolled back, as the figure really is career earnings as of the beginning of the 2006/2007 season. Fair enough, but perhaps this should be noted in the box? (on profile page it says "(up to start of 2006/07 season)")
Another thing: didn't he have a break >139 this tournament? Elsand 00:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: From a Channel 4 documentary, it appears that a close relative of The Elephant Man married a Mr. Selby. As both Mark and Joseph are from Leicester, I wonder if there is a connection? --MartinUK 23:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family history

message: The fact that a journalist referred to Mark Selby as "The Peacock" does not make that a valid nickname. Journalistic licence is not gospel and that name has never been used anywhere else. For that reason, I reverted it. However, if multiple references to "The Peacock" can be found, please let's have them and it can be restored. bigpad (talk) 09:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Selby has way too many nicknames listed on the article. Could we just pick a few, or the main ones? If I make up a nickname for Selby, can I put it on the list too?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.34.6 (talk) 14:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Nickname

message: This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --5.65.246.86 (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: In the introduction we have "Selby...began his professional snooker career in 1998 at the age of 15".  But in the Early Years section we have "His dad died of cancer when he was 16, two months before he turned professional".  They can't both be right! Molinari (talk) 16:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The confusion arises because Selby began playing on the UK Tour in 1998, when he was 15, and joined the main pro tour in 1999, when he was 16. The UK Tour at the time was for professional players ranked outside the top 96. So, it's correct to say that Selby was a professional at age 15. He just wasn't a main tour player until the following year. The problem could above be resolved by editing the sentence to read "two months before he joined the main professional tour." Carton828 (talk) 20:41, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age when turned pro? 

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message: I actually think IP 89.204.239.215 may have a point! Is there any particular need to list every ranking event he has won? There are quite a lot in that list and it just looks like a veritable sea of blue. We've already stated in 1st para that he's won 18 ranking titles, but is it really necessary to provide the full list further down? I'm not sure it's all that interesting to the casual reader. We could just say he won his first ranking title at the Welsh Open in 2008, and his most recent ranking win was at the European Masters in September 2020. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Completely OTT to list them all in the lead. Nigej (talk) 14:47, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, probably could be condensed a bit, but not removed entirely (which is what the IP wished to do). Might I suggest that instead of " are the Welsh Open in 2008, the Shanghai Masters in 2011", etc that we just do "winner of Welsh Open, Shanghai Masters, China Open (three times)" or similar to condense? I think a vague amount of info on the events that he has won is quite relevant, the issue is that he has won too many to say them all by name.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still of the view that we shouldn't be listing them at all. Give the total and the details can go in the rest of the article. If someone's won two or three events we can list them but listing them for someone who's won dozens makes no sense. Triple crown events can spelt out in more detail perhaps, but again, need condensing for someone like Ronnie. Nigej (talk) 18:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, well here's my proposal Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks OK to me Lee. I would prefer a slight tense tweak from past tense ("Selby also won...") to present perfect tense ("Selby has also won...") Rodney Baggins (talk) 21:18, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I noticed you made some other changes, I was only looking at the ranking titles list. I like the "A three-time World Snooker Champion," at start of second sentence, but then I don't think we should list them until lower down with the other triple crown dates, so I would make this "A three-time World Snooker Champion, Selby has won 18 ranking titles, placing him..." I also think "but went on to win..." after the 2007 runner-up statement makes it sound like that was not an achievement, i.e. "despite being runner-up to Higgins in 2007, he managed to do all this stuff afterwards..." So, this would be my proposal for the lead. Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd sign off on that - seems suitable succinct whilst also giving a good overview of what they have won. It bares repeating that aside from the Triple Crown events, the biggest deal is the winning of ranking tournaments. It might also be prudent to have the total amount of professional titles stated in the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full list of ranking titles in lead 

message: Surely this can't be right. 630 seems to be the number at the end of the 2019/20 season. He'd made some more by 1 October, eg 4 in the European Masters. Nigej (talk) 21:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "630 (as of 1 October 2020)" 

message: The year of birth is incorrect. You have 1883 instead of 1983 109.249.181.57 (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: I looked throughout the entire article and used "search in the page" and 1883 never came up. Link20XX (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2021 

message: I added the nickname “Granite” which was used extensively during the recent world championships. I also checked and found repeated usage of “Granite” in the press. 
However, the reference to granite was soon deleted without explanation that I can see. 
Can the moderator who deleted it please comment. 
Thanks Timmytimtimmy (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Granite is not a nickname, it's just a descriptive word used by commentators when a player is being particularly resilient, showing tough matchplay. I can't find a source that states that Selby has specifically picked it up as a nickname. I think it's one of John Parrott's favourite words. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

text: I agree with Rodney Baggins. See eg MOS:BADNICK, although not directly relevant here since that relates to the lede. The fact that sports journalists refer him as such does not make it a nickname IMO. Generally, we already have way too many of these "nicknames". He's the "Jester from Leicester". Surely that's enough. Ronnie is "The Rocket". As a general rule we should stick to one per person. Nigej (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname