Talk:Rugby league in Australia

message: This article claims that "It [rugby league] competes with Australian Rules Football for the title of "most popular national sport" [in Australia]".  I don't know the statistics, but isn't cricket more popular than both sports given its truely national following and doesn't football (soccer) have more participation.  I imagine lawn bowls and netball are quite popular as well.  In short, is there a reference that can back the claim up?  (Oh, and  I reckon Aussie rules is far more popular than league, but I'm biased.) --ThirdEdition 23:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy that what you've got there now is factually accurate, so if your happy with it that's fine.  According to an Australian Bureau of Statistics survey in 2002, Aussie Rules (2.5 million) was attended by the most adult individuals, then horse racing (1.9 million), motor racing (1.5 million) and rugby league (1.5 million). --ThirdEdition 04:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm well versed in those statistics :). If u know of any similar statistics for the England, leave a reference at the bottom of the England page. POds 05:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most popular national sport? 

message: I changed these. Soccer is played more widely than rugby at Eton, and Harrow was very much a soccer school until it switched codes between the Wars. 06:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: English Schools

message: A few soccer fundamentalists are hijacking the term football in Australian articles. See, for example, Category:Football_in_Australia. We need concerted action to stop this. Grant65 | Talk 10:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help!

message: There is very little about Rugby League in Australia except for the professional competitions and how this affects perception. Australian professional Rugby League is only the tip of the ice-berg when it comes to participation generally. Local Rugby League clubs are important in develpoing social skills and providing role models for the youth. From my experience(extensive enough) WOMAN ARE JUST AS INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL CLUBS AS MEN. Also local Rugby League clubs are important to community life and social structure with many people who have not played at the club for twenty years still hanging around and coaching a team every now and than.
Also there is very little about the game's Irish roots in Sydney and Brisbane, Past Brothers, many local teams are in fact local catholic schools(Mostly Irish with a bit of Italian) who play against the local clubs in competition (Mostly Anglo-Celtic and working class as well as immigrant). I will begin to implement these changes. --Judas Iscariot 05:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the original author of this article, i look forward to your changes :) POds 11:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I've been meaning to update the figures lately. There are for 2002/2003. Also, Try t NEVER use statistics gathered by a particular organisation that shows the statistics of that organisation, because they show bias. For example. Your sources are from the QRL. I would highly recommend against this and continue to use the sources in this file. I.e. Mainly the Australian Bereau of Statistics. POds 01:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, the 2003 ERASS was used to write this page. If your going to update the figures, keep in mind i was going to change everything to percentages or talk in as less specifics as possible. I.e. Perhaps its better to say how much, in percentage terms, people participate in rugby league compared to other sports. That way, things will perhaps not get out of date as quickly. Also, it would be good if we could emcompass several years results, so that we can show how things are changing. POds 10:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No it isn't because its a seperate sport. The only reason to include participation records from other sports is to give an idea of the contrast between them and hopefuly set up an idea in the readers mind of what stance rugby league has in Australia as a professional sport. Comparing RLs participation numbers to Touchs doesnt do much at all. POds 11:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You do not think it is relevant? They are identical sports just without contact. It gives a much clearer indication of participation. Mr nice guy 11:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you trying to do by putting these numbers in? Provide a comparison? Or boost league's numbers? A comparison will do very little, both sports share similar geographics. And the later is just unnacceptable. You can make your changes, but if they dont contribute to the article or if they arejust proping up the league's numbers, then their outa there! POds 14:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think local clubs need more of a mention 

message: I cannot believe that people toatally missed SOO (State of Origin) QLD vs NSW. To the person who said there is very little about rugby league in Australia, you are certianly right. Also, although i prefer rugby league, AFL i do think is the more popular sport. AFL has more of a tribal following than RL does. Also, what about more mention of its counterpart RU(Rugby Union)Timmah01 06:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  State of origin 

message: What does this mean?  Number of professional/semi-professional clubs?   Clearly, there would be 100s of clubs across the country playing at all levels from Junior grades through to NRL. 203.94.175.66 01:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops.  That was me. CumberlandsAshes81 01:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Clubs

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message: I have been (and will continue to) making substantial changes to this article. It is too focused on Queensland and NSW and ignores competitions that may not grab the headlines but are worthy of a mention e.g. schools and university rugby league.
Too much of the information here is just verbatim repeats of the actual article. The detail in the State of Origin / City vs Country sections are examples of this. Too much historical detail and no mention of the Affiliated States Championship.
The history section needs to be massively extended, one or two things happened between 1907 and 2008.
With this in mind, a lot of data may disappear from these pages to be moved elsewhere if not already duplicated.GordyB (talk) 20:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended make-over 

message: Just seeking to draw a wider range of informed opinion at Talk:Football in Australia regarding that article's future (whether persisting with the attempt at a comprehensive and well-balanced broad-concept article and how best to achieve that, or returning it to a simple disambiguation page). Cheers.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 02:39, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please note, the disambiguate state last existed in 2009.  --LauraHale (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football in Australia 

message: A few problems -
* Claims that RL was "working class" and RU was "public school" are not entirely true. A number of working class areas in Europe continued to play rugby union after the schism, notably South Wales, South West England and the Scottish Borders. Also, some of the people involved in RL in England were moneyed.
* No mention of the effect of professionalisation of rugby union, which has meant that the flow between rugby union and rugby league is no longer one way, and that moreover, money is not the main issue.
* Aussie Rules and the relationship between the two codes in Australia is barely mentioned, if at all.--MacRùsgail (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that money was the main issue with players moving league to union, it just doesn't sound too good for a cross-code player to say "Yeah I'm only doing it for the cash" so they usually say something about a new challenge.GordyB (talk) 19:46, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, well put! Now, ironically RU is poaching players from RL. What I think I meant, is that "money is no longer the main issue". Both codes now offer competitive rates of pay although RU is still smaller. Rather than just saying that league is the coolest or most popular sport in Australia (or something on those lines), I would like to see the article discuss the Barassi Line, and the interplay with Aussie Rules and Rugby Union in Australia properly. Which football code you start out playing, is dictated mostly by your background. Which football code you end up playing is often down to how much money is being offered, but not necessarily.--MacRùsgail (talk) 13:15, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

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message: The word Elite is bandied around wantonly in this article but there doesn't seem to be any definition in this article as to what constitutes an "Elite" club. Rulesfan (talk) 03:14, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the difference between "Elite" and "Professional" ?