Talk:Blue (English group)

message: did blue break up??!--Amr Hassan 03:43, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes--hottie 16:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Group split 

message: There seems to be two versions of Costa's first name being spelt on Wikipedia. In the article it is spelt as Antony, although the official Blue website gives it as Anthony. Antony Costa redirects to Anthony Costa, which is what you'd expect, but sources such as the ITV website for I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! gives the spelling as Antony. (See: Antony Costa's Profile) No wonder there is confusion over the correct spelling! Anyone know for sure which is the right one? -TonyW 22:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The redirects mentioned above no longer apply as references to the Blue singer now point to Antony Costa. -TonyW 23:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of Costa's first name

message: I've tagged this article for a clean up.  The Discography section especially needs citation for most chart positions.  I've made a start but need to gather more information and sources.  Any help would be appreciated :) -- Sarz 10:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of the chart positions listed were false. Various IPs and at least one registered user constantly change chart positions on the articles for the various members of Blue, which I'm constantly reverting. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would anyone have a problem if I removed all the chart positions that aren't referenced and added a table I've been working on that contains only referenced chart positions? The others can always be added back if sources are found. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a problem with it :) -- Sarz 23:26, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good. I'm doing it RIGHT NOW! -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some dickhead tried to mess it up for me! Grrr! -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: I agree with the person who said the chart positions are wrong. I'm removing the chart positions for the albums. The singles chart positions are all VERIFIED with SOURCES. PLEASE do not blank this section. See the sections above in this talk page. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

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message: Hello! I noticed that it is said in the article that Blue sold only over 3.7 million records. But on their official website  I read that they sold over 7 million. It is a big difference, don't you think? Crokis (talk) 11:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blue dilemma 

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message: Now that Blue is the UK act for Eurovision 2011 its perhaps time to sort this article out. Perhaps some rewriting is the best way to improve the article.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eurovision 

message: Should it be mentioned that if it was just the public vote, they would of placed 5th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2011#Split_jury.2Ftelevoting_results_3 
They were also announced as the most popular artists of Eurovision 2011 http://www.eurovision.tv/page/multimedia/photos?gal=40093 --92.7.25.92 (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eurovision, again 

message: The band Blue are globally well-known as a boyband rather than an English band.  Sources on the article alone also make references to the term "boyband".  Articles for each of the band members also refer to them as being members of a "boyband".  Based on distinctiveness, the band's established terminology of boyband surely would take president over a ambiguous title of English band. Wesley☀Mouse 15:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, I thought the consensus of the discussion was move to Blue (boy band)? How come it's moved here?--Krystaleen (talk) 15:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no idea.  Apparently the consensus was to move here, even though everyone expressed that either title would be suitable.  And that Blue (Scottish band) would ideally benefit moving to Blue (rock band).  But from what I've just been informed, it would mean opening a new RM for the Scottish band, and as that hasn't happened, then this title was the final decision.  I'm going to seek further advice on this, as I do think the closure was premature, as it is very clear no overall consensus had been reached in regards to what name should be used.  Wesley☀Mouse 15:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

text: I don't see any consensus to move the page to Blue (boy band). In fact, such a name would break with WP:NCM and would inevitably end up being moved when a new boy band named Blue was formed. Blue (English band) is the correct name by policy. Eastshire (talk) 17:59, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: (from RFC) I would have thought the Blue (Boy band) would be a far better disambiguator as boy band is used to describe the group in the first sentence of the article. The fact that another boy band could be called Blue or even that another English band is formed called Blue is not a current problem and could be dealt with it ever happens. MilborneOne (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

text: *The current title may well distinguish the difference between nationalism of the two bands.  But WP:COMMONNAME also states that distinctiveness and what a band is generalized as would take higher billing than nationalism.  As Blue (comprising of Anthony, Duncan, Lee, and Simon) have globally established themselves for the last 10 years as a "boy band", then that terminology is more distinctive than "English band".  Every person on the planet recognises the group as a boy band.  The millions and millions of articles on the internet refer to them as a "boy band"; so that alone proves that they are not nor have they ever been known as an English band.  When we compared the two proposed options against the five criterion at WP:NAMINGCRITERIA, it had been established that Blue (English band) fulfilled 3 out of 5 criteria; whereas Blue (boy band) fulfilled all 5 of them.  If one title name fulfils for criteria than the other, then surely commonsense should kick in as to which title would be the correct version?  Would you tell a soccer team who lost a match that they are actually the winners because they scored less goals than the other team?  No, you wouldn't.  So why would a title which fulfils less criteria be deemed the correct title, while the one which fulfilled all criteria, be deemed the incorrect one?  Wesley☀Mouse 09:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

text: It's distinguishing alright but doesn't really describe the band. Nowhere has the band ever referred to as an "English band", it's always been a "boy band".--Krystaleen (talk) 01:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: English band is more correct. Boy band is inappropriate. The guys are all around 30 now, so they're hardly boys. The term boy band itself is fairly controversial given the discussions on the Boy band talk page, where some have suggested the article shouldn't even exist given that there is no real criteria as to what a boy band actually is. The naming convention is to list by nationality, such as The Beat (American band), The Spinners (American band), Gemini (Swedish band), Gemini (Portuguese band) and Gemini (Chinese band) (no doubt the British "boy band" from the 1990s also called Gemini would be Gemini (British band) if they actually had an article).--Tuzapicabit (talk) 12:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If previous consensus and policy supports the current name of the article, then I would lean slightly to the article name not changing. We simply can't continually change the name of the article. --I dream of horses (T) @  01:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current article name defects from actual recognition 

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message: Too much how no updates 81.138.14.12 (talk) 10:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can you update