Talk:John C. Dvorak

message: JOhn C. Dvorak is 6 foot 1 not five 9, this is more bashing by Dvorak haters. It calls into question everything on WikiPedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.3.42.36 (talk) 21:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You appear to be speculating quite strongly about the video. Yes, there was a small amount of laughing in the background, but we have no idea why. Could it be because Winer is surprised that Dvorak is telling the truth on video? That Dvorak is being ironic? We don't know. For all we know, the laughter could be from some unrelated person nearby. The plain fact is that John speaks of baiting Mac users, and he sounds quite serious about it. Anything more than that is an imaginative exercise, given the information at hand. Of course, Dvorak and even Winer can retrospectively claim anything about what transpired, but such memoirs should not be taken at face value. — Yama 09:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

text: People say all kinds of things, but that does not make them worthy of inclusion in wikipedia.  The article should be general information about John C Dvorak...  Kingmundi (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

text: I for one agree with your changes. --Falcorian (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Justifying my change, and general anger

message: What is his birthdate?
: Refering to this page  he was born in 1952 in Los Angeles, Calif. --Wolny 19:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate? 

message: Is he a Czech immigrant? --Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 11:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, his last name is pronounced in an Americanized English way, /'dvoræk/, not /ˈdvor̝aːk/ like Antonín Dvořák.  I doubt he would do that if he were actually Czech. --Saforrest 22:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech ?

message: In This Week in Tech, Dvorak hints at the fact that he lives in the East Bay, meaning the eastern suburbs of San Francisco.  This needs to be confirmed, but it contradicts the main article that lists his homes in the Seattle area. -- gglockner
: No, actually, he hints that he might live in Berkeley, which is not a suburb of any city. Catamorphism 09:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: East Bay would mean the eastern coast of the bay area (Fremont, Hayward, Union City, Oakland, Emeryville, Berkeley, /etc /etc 68.116.93.138 04:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Still the article is wrong and should be changed. He does have a vacation home in Port Angeles though. - CaptainAmerica 18:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home? 

message: This article seems to horribly fail WP:SELF at the bottom, with a less-than-warranted paragraph regarding John's opinion of Wikipedia, especially with the phrase "this article". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wesley Moy (talk • contribs) .
: Yes it does.  I believe the operative word is "sofixit", which I've just done. --Saforrest 22:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:SELF 

message: Just kidding, but I got your attention!! This article sorely needs a list of things Dvorak has claimed to demonstrate what a complete and utter troll he is. - Abscissa 19:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True, this should be included as well. --Siva1979Talk to me 20:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I see that since my last visit to this page, someone has added some hilarious statements by this first-class idiot. Keep up the great work!! - Abscissa 04:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Category: Troll Journalists or :Category:Useful Idiot anyone? Project2501a 21:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The man is a visionary!! 

message: I think the controversial statements sections should be moved to Wikiquote. It would be good if someone could explain what makes them "controversial." Some seem obvious if one has familiarity with the topics, like the mouse one, but others aren't so obvious, for instance the one about CPU use. Theshibboleth 04:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the section should be revised.  Just because he said something that sounds stupid in retrospect does not make it controversial.  At least, it's no more controversial than a weather man's incorrect prediction.  Unless someone can prove that it was a controversial statement at the time, then something should not be labeled a 'controversial' statement.--MythicFox 16:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I nuked this section. Please tell me why funny statements (GTA, the "no spam" running joke on TWit), a couple of examples of bad predictions (the mouse, cable modems) and a zero context statement (MS is dead) are examples of controversial statements. Please do better. And with sources, people. Not sources of the statement, but proof of "controversy". 68.116.93.138 04:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial statements 

message: Which one?  Berkeley, UCLA, etc.
* University of California usually implies Berkeley... it is the only UC school referred to as such. --Kid moxie 00:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: University of California doesn't really imply anything since there are over six of those universities, plus the other colleges like USC to add to the confusion. --Kolrobie (talk) 21:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attended University of California)

message: Not familiar with Dvorak or the statement in question, but it seems much more likely that he means Robin Williams (writer) rather than the comedic actor.
* Nope, they were discussing Robin William's onstage presence and Dvorak said something like (I'm paraphrasing) "You know he's really shy in person...He was the first person to show me chat rooms. He came over to my house and we went on CompuServe and they had this thing called a CB Simulator where you pretended to be on a CB radio." Robin Williams is a computer and video game enthusist, so it isn't unlikely that he showed Dvorak the his first chat room. - CaptainAmerica 00:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Williams? 

message: I recall Dvorak's magazine colums, IIRC in PC Magazine, in which he would make certain words, usually the names of computer industry luminaries, BOLD ALL-CAPITALS. This was in the 1980's, and I haven't seen this done in what little writing I've seen of his in recent years. But I thought this was an odd "feature" of his columns, and as memorable as his strong opinions. It was almost his trademark, and I wonder when he stopped doing that. Perhaps someone with more familiarity and patience (and access to older magazines) could research this and add it to the article. Benbradley 04:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He uses the bold text in his "Inside Track" article for PC Magazine.  I'm not sure what its all about.  It doesn't seem to fit any pattern as far as I can tell.--janus657 16:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about his ALL-CAPS BOLD namedropping? 

message: I remember listening to an episode of "This Week in Tech" where Leo Laporte makes mention that Dvorak "used to" be a Food and Wine Critic.  Dvorak confirmed it on the show.  I'll see if I can come up with the episode when I can to complete the needed citation.  Does anybody else recall this statement, maybe the year it happened?  That'd help narrow it down.--Low2snow (talk) 01:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wine and Food Critic in Trivia

message: What's wrong with his birth year?
it says 1952 in the heading, but 1947 under his picture?!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.11.0.153 (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Year?? 

message: keeps adding in "He frequently reminds people to stay off his lawn.". His source is the following twiter page. I have removed it (as have others) now for the following reasons:
#Twitter doesn't pass WP:RS
#Even if it did, a single statement can not possibly source 'frequently'
#The remark is not-notable
#There is no indication that the remark is not in jest playing off his "cranky geek" persona
--Falcorian (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Get off my lawn! 

message: The following is unsourced information:
* Dvorak, while at CNET Central, used to make a habit of throwing "mediocre" CDs he was reviewing at the camera.  On Cranky Geeks he throws cue cards at the camera.
* Dvorak said on TWiT that the New York Stock Exchange is heading towards a Stock market crash in 2009, based on a cycle.
While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 11:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material 

message: English isn't my 1st language so I'm not 100% sure but I think this formulation is grammatically wrong : "which some commentators having the benefit of hindsight later dismiss as having being simply inaccurate at the time they were made" ==> I'd write : "lated dismissed as having been"
--Abolibibelot (talk) 23:18, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong grammar ? 

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message: Might want to take a look at it.  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2421994,00.asp
I think it is good to add Criticism of Wikipedia to the table of contents and quote him for writing "It's astonishing when someone takes a chance and uses it [WIKIPEDIA] as a definitive source". --Ali Mirjamali (talk) 12:24, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Wikipedia's Edit Wars''' - an article by John C. Dvorak on PCMAG.COM ''(referring to this page)'' 

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message: On episode 12 of No Agenda from January 12, 2008, he says "I don't think there's any relationship there" around the 1:03:00 timestamp. He admits he made it up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ess198 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims he is not related to August Dvorak 

message: Saw a mention of him and thought to look at the article. Strange emphases here, both the usual recency problems (where everything recent is remembered/mentioned, but less from the-before-times) and items which can only be described as some individuals' favorite clay-of-feet stories.
In counterpoint, let me state that in the early 90's I held up a product release for nearly two weeks finishing an accessory feature that Dvorak had been finding fault with in other industry products for over a year. When sales screamed I mentioned Dvorak and 'why' and they shut up. Getting a good review from him was that important. And yet, his reviews aren't mentioned in the article at all.
This article has feet of clay and the joke is on Wikipedia. Shenme (talk) 03:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't just complain.  Be the change you want to see. Le Marteau (talk) 10:05, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tilted, slanted, something's wrong here