Template talk:Taiwan-geo-stub

message: Sigh. Let's try again. 
*Template:Taiwan-geo-stub -> :Category: Republic of China (Taiwan) geography stubs
*Template:China-geo-stub -> :Category: Mainland China geography stubs
:Category:Mainland China geography stubs and :Category:Hong Kong geography stubs would both be subcategories of :Category:People's Republic of China geography stubs.
Any objections?
(An alternative option would be to have Categories called Taiwan geo. stubs and Mainland China geo.stubs, and allow articles on Quemoy et al to be double stubbed to both categories, but I suspect that, from a political poitn of view, that would be worse than all the other options mentioned).  Grutness|hello?  10:02, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks very much Grutness. No objection about this proposal. But then as I have mentioned, I prefer hyperlinks between the categories to subcatagorisaion.   — Instantnood 16:19, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your diligence in solving this mess. I would stand neutral on this proposal, with the caveat that ROC=\=Taiwan. However, I still prefer to sort Geo-stubs according to the geographical demarcations. i.e. Quemoy et al to be sorted into China instead of Taiwan. I wonder if anyone would really object this arrangement and how this could be worse than other proposal. Quemoy et al were bona fide geographically part of China( as a geographical entity). No political POV is implicated.Mababa 06:40, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Geo-stubs proposal 2

message: Since this page has been mentioned in an RfC against Instantnood, I felt I should mention it here. I've already put in my two-cents worth into the discussion here, but I will sumarize my opinion: Although Instantnood has been vigorously arguing his points, nothing that I've seen justifies the filing of an RFC against him. BlankVerse ∅ 08:54, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Instantnood

message: The term ROC is POV - as it implies there is a separate recognisable entity that has sovereign rule over Taiwan, a position refuted strongly by Beijing, I have remove the reference to it in the template, jguk 12:21, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Are Matsu, Quemoy and Wuchiu part of Taiwan?  — Instantnood 12:38, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
This whole thing has been quite an issue at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion, and apparently there was some sort of vote that arrived at the current form, so I would not advise just changing it.  I think all territories administered by the ROC government based on Taiwan (including Matsu, Quemoy and Wuchiu) are considered part of the purview of this geo-stub.--Pharos 23:09, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem here is that this debate has been held all over the place. I don't remember seeing what you refer to - but I would not say that because a few pro-ROCers managed to have a vote on some page somewhere that WP's NPOV policy should be suspended, jguk 11:10, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Debate

message: So is Matsu, Quemoy and Wuchiu part of Taiwan proper or Taiwan province? NO, it is not. They are part of Fuchien province both politically and geographically. To put (Taiwan) behind ROC is a wrong statement. This geo template should be used for all ROC administered territories, including the Fuchien islands. But if you use (Taiwan) after ROC. That is wrong. It should just be Republic of China or Republic of China on Taiwan. -Nationalist 08:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ROC is known as Taiwan. And since this template isn't about the country anyways, stop making it too political, please.--Jerrypp772000 19:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The original "Republic of China (Taiwan)" label was already agreed upon.  It's the least offensive and accurate label.  I'm reverting back to original version. Jumping cheese Cont@ct 01:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you!--Jerrypp772000 02:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Being dense on your sole opinion and assuming bad faith/personal attacks already put you in the losing ground. Not to mention your disruption to Wikipedia and gaming the system. Vic226(chat) 15:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually the reality and fact is that Taiwan is the common name for the ROC (again...):D.--Jerrypp772000 02:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming dispute 

message: The new image is totally illegible at that scale.  While svg is nice, and I recognize the effort that went into all that fancy writing, the old icon is a lot more recognizable.--Pharos 08:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree...a bit small.  What do the characters say? Jumping cheese Cont@ct 05:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

message: I used the Taiwan-geo-stub stub for the first time and noticed that it uses the term "Republic of China" when displayed.  I thought the  "geo" meant "geographic" but I guess not.  Where can I find a stub for articles about locations in Taiwan that are not political and therefor should just say "Taiwan" instead of "ROC"? Readin (talk) 23:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where do I find the Taiwan template?