Talk:Chopsticks (hand game)

message: Am I missing something? I don't understand this game. — Morganfitzp 03:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification

message: Why is there no article on the Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed? I was both surprised and disappointed to be led to an article about an obscure childrens' game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.107.0.73 (talk) 03:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Since there is more than one thing called "magic Fingers" (This game and the bed), I thought we should move the page to Magic Fingers (Game) and create a Disambuguation here. I want to know what you guys think first. --Andrew Hampe | Talk 19:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Somewhat late, but I agree. I was looking for the 'vibrating bed' version as mentioned above. I've never heard of this game called chopsticks, but was surprised to find that it was not the piano version, and made no mention of the eating utensils. --StarChaser Tyger (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Page 

message: I just wanted to point out that it is not the second player that always wins; rather it is the player who doesn't tap the opponent first (that is, if the first player alters his or her hand to 2:0, then he or she may still win).12.206.235.170 22:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto Win 

message: I can't find any sources calling this game "Magic Fingers" so unless anyone can present a source that does I think the article should be renamed "Chopsticks (handgame)"--Independentdependent 20:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chopsticks (handgame) 

message: The Gameplay and Alternate Explanation sections of this article need to be merged into one section, combining the best description from each.  Or we could just delete one section in favor of the other.  --Politizer (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging sections

message: Two clarifications needed:
1. How is the "Splits" version different from the original? It says in the "splits" version, if you have an even number of fingers on one hand you can tap your hands together and split them evenly (so 4:0 becomes 2:2 for example). But can't you also do this in the original version? There is nothing in the description of the original version that suggests such "splitting" would be forbidden. From the way things look now, it doesn't look like "splits" is a variant at all, but merely one possible action you could take in the regular game.
2. "Overlap" and "Leftovers" look the same to me. Is there some subtle difference between them?
Stonemason89 (talk) 00:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Huh?

message: I came here to find out how to play this but am none the wiser. Yes, I know that WP is not an instruction manual but it should include sufficient (and clear) information on the rules. Meanwhile people add articles on their favourite D-grade "celebrity" or their entirely non-noteworthy school. Grumble, grumble... 203.59.126.178 (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh? 

message: # The 'Moves' section states that the possible moves are:
#: Under normal rules, there are a maximum of 14 possible moves:
#:* Four attacks (A-C, A-D, B-C, B-D)
#:* Four divisions (02–11, 03–12, 04–13, 04–22)
#:* Six transfers (13–22, 22–13, 14–23, 23–14, 24–33, 33–24)
#: However, nowhere in the 'Rules' section does it say you can't leave zero fingers on a hand by transferring, or that you can't just swap your two hands over.  Thus the rules imply that 11-02, 12-03, 12-12, 13-04, 13-13, 22-04, 14-14, 23-23, 24-24 and 34-34 are all possible moves.  The sources seem to give slightly different rules from each other, and we don't seem to have a definitive source.
# "However, players are required to attack at least once during the game."  How does this work?  Is it an illegal move to kill a player if they haven't attacked yet, thereby making it part of the strategy to force your opponent to attack sooner or later?  (I can see that whether this is an issue depends on the exact rules.)
# "The longest possible game that gets farther from the starting point with each move is 9 moves."  What metric is being used here to measure distance between positions?
— Smjg (talk) 14:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Smjg. While copy editing the article, I tried to address these issues you point out. I think they are decently explained now, despite the lack of a definitive source. Among the current sources, splitting rules lack consensus. In regard to #1, while no source explicitly forbids leaving zero points on a hand by transferring ("suicide"), some allow it, so I opted to present it as a rule variation. Cheers ~ Jayowyn (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues