Talk:Tegan and Sara

message: Can we update the main image of the article? It seems outdated being from 2008 and all; possibly replace it with the image of them performing at the Polaris Music Prize which is found further down in the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.192.153 (talk) 18:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I really think there should be a section to mention all the videos and homemovies and films they produce themselves. Such as backstage bilingual, trailer talk, the Con DVD, and it's not fun, don't do it. It's a huge part of Tegan and Sara, the fact that they're so open with their fans make so many videos and DVD's (they have another one coming late this year). I'm going to create this section right now, feel free to add or edit.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.74.227 (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: series/films/DVD's

message: I added a blurb about the Tegan and Sara in Doctor Who.. coincidence? -—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kether83 (talk • contribs).
::I have wondered that myself since I first heard of them. AMCKen (talk) 23:36, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article content

message: I question the correctness of the phrasing "Matt Sharp and Maya Rudolph of The Rentals." Maya has only performed some backup work on a few tracks of their 2nd album, and apparently some accompanying touring, I'm not sure that constitutes being in the band; although the band entry page does list her, and for such an intermittent group things are admittedly less cut and dry. Indeed, the only consistent members to date have been Matt Sharp himself and Petra Haden. Maya's own page seems to give a more reasonable description of her affiliation. --Belg4mit 15:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Rentals

message: Is it "Teegan" or "Taygan" (like Megan/Meghan)?  Should this be noted in the article? 71.234.105.190 03:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pronounced "Teegan". Could probably be noted in the article, although I'm not sure of the correct way to add info on pronunciations. Hotdoglives 05:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronounciation

message: I have reservations about Tegan and Sara being called a "Duo". They have said themselves that they hate the label "duo" - seeing as they have always played with a 5 piece band etc. "Tegan and Sara" is the name of their band - as obvious as this is, some people seem to forget this fact. 
In the CBC Radio 3 Podcast # 109 "Twin Power Summer" released on 22/6/2007, Tegan herself said: "...We're not a duo. Yes, there's two of us...but we're a band, we play with a five piece band."
So, in light of this, I think the article should stick to calling them a band or singer-songwriters. Emerald.Atoms (talk) 06:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Duo" 

message: Hello! I just went in and cleaned up the section about Sara's relationship with Emy (it ended?! I'm so sad!) so that there's actual citation for the claims listed. I hope it turned out well :)  
Here's the original text: 
"Sara was in a long relationship with Emy Storey, who sold their merch at shows and did many of the designes. She is a Graphic Designer and has her own site. Their relationship became legal in 2007. Sara's song "I Was Married" referred to the common law marriage to Storey.
They have now since broken up."JamisonK (talk) 03:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: has been changing the spelling of "Kiersten" to "Keirsten" for the past few days. Cursory Google searching reveals no hits for "Sarah Keirsten Quin" and many for "Sarah Kiersten Quin". I even sourced the spelling of her name, only to be reverted. Just letting everyone know so I don't get tagged for WP:3RR, though I'll be bowing out soon if this continues. -FrankTobia (talk) 06:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kiersten" 

message: Hi Kimpurrs.Do you have any source for her middle name being Keirsten instead of Kiersten? I haven't found a reliable source for either spelling, so I'm of a mind to remove it completely for now.Concerning Kaki King, as far as I can tell there are two sources confirming the relationship. On what grounds do you say that it isn't true?Cheers, AmaltheaTalk 21:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Found one. Please don't change it back without a good reason. --AmaltheaTalk 14:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaki King, and "Keirsten" 

message: This is more of a question.  I see that all their vinyl albums are not available other than The Con. Is it that they never produced their other albums in vinyl or that they have been discontinued?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.84.239 (talk) 01:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vinyl 

message: There is little to no flow in this article as it is almost wholly a collection of bullet points masquerading as a series of sentences within topics. There are many, many other awful Wikipedia articles just like this but I just don't have time to rewrite any. This is my first comment ever so maybe this proves to be my toe-dipping moment and the water won't turn out to be so cold. But, my, this article is marygawdandjoseph awful. I would hope T&S' fans would want better, no? TeenageCynic (talk) 20:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone, please edit the "bullet points" 

message: this is NOT a cover from HeyHiHello.
if it is can anyone provide proof?  96.51.17.141 (talk) 04:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says that Heyhihello covered it, not that it's originally a Heyhihello song. The song can be found on their MySpace page. However, it probably shouldn't be on the list if the band isn't notable enough to have a wiki article (I don't know if it is or not). Klubbit (talk) 16:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back in your head 

message: This is my first ever post and Im not sure on the rules and stuff but one of you guys could add this in somewhere. 
Tegan did a song with punk rock band 'Against Me' didn't see it listed anywhere. Its called 'Bourne on the Fm radio waves' Or something of the sort.
Thanks
Mark  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.103.171.30 (talk) 09:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the table at the end of the collaborations section (hidden by default because it's rather large). There are too many collaborations to mention them all in the paragraphs. Klubbit (talk) 17:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaborations 

message: "Tegan and Sara is", or "Tegan and Sara are"?  I realize that AmE generally prefers the former, and BrE the latter, but I'm not quite sure which is the more usual in Canadian usage.  Where the "name of the band" just happens to be a two-part list of the first names of the two permanent members, I have to say that to me, "is" seems extremely jarring.  Smartiger (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not opposed to changing it if that's proper grammar. "Are" sounds fine to me, but maybe technically wrong since that's the verb for a plural subject, and we're saying Tegan and Sara is a singular thing (a band). If you were to flip it, you wouldn't say "This band are Tegan and Sara."  As discussed here, they consider Tegan and Sara to be a band, not a duo, and I verified the quote from the interview @ 16:40. Klubbit (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I might, actually, but that might be a function of my side of the Atlantic. In general, though, the grammatical rule is to have the verb agree with the subject, and not with the object (if those differ), so "T&S are a band" and "the band is T&S" are both defensible, if one considers the one to be plural, and the other singular.  I'll defer to majority Canucker opinion on this, however.  I did notice the "duo" section, and I'm not proposing to re-open that can of worms.  (Though TBH, it does sound as if they're being more arch than informative, and one could argue that third-party sources are to be preferred to the subjects' own preferences (at least if one had such).)  Smartiger (talk) 20:38, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, I'm sure there are decent sources that say both. At any rate, you may be right about the grammar stuff, but I think whether they're a duo or band does matter. Saying Tegan Quin and Sara Quin are a band suggests that they alone make up the band, which is inaccurate. Saying Tegan Quin and Sara Quin are a duo, on the other hand, would be accurate, if they are indeed a duo. So if we're going to stick with calling them a band, I think that the first three words of the article should refer to the name of the band rather than two individual people, and it's not clear that that's the case with "are". e.g., One might interpret it as being equivalent to "Tegan Quin and Sara Quin are a band led by Tegan Quin and Sara Quin." :P Klubbit (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No fair making me uncan those worms!  OK, if the other three are actually "members of Tegan and Sara" (as it were), as opposed to "people they tour with", it does argue in favour of their "band" interpretation, so (probably) fair enough.  But under either interpretation, they sound pretty plural to me.  (But equally, so does "The Killers is", to my ear...)  Smartiger (talk) 02:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "The Beatles are", say, is fine, because each member of the band is a Beatle (presumably the same thing applies to The Killers, not sure). Each member in this band isn't a Tegan and Sara though. Anyway, I don't think there's a clear answer, but if you do change it to "are" I think the sentence and possibly various parts of the article should be changed for clarity and consistency. FYI, their press kit biography says "Tegan and Sara are a highly motivated musical group..." Klubbit (talk) 03:07, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A large percentage of them are a Sara or a Tegan, though!  I guess you're right, band names of the form "The Xs" do at least lend themselves to the interpretation or conceit that each is "an X", so those are the ones that seem oddest to treat as a singular collective. (Insofar as they don't all sound odd, to my ears!)  I'd be inclined to follow the press kit, then, unless someone finds countervailing usage.  I don't see any other usages in the article that would need to be changed -- everything else is either using it to denote the two principals as individual people, or is in the past tense, making the distinction inflectionally moot.  I'm open to suggestions as to how to rework the opening sentence, certainly.  Smartiger (talk) 06:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

text: In as much as a band (or a sports team) is a singular entity, when it is named in the plural, it is standard in North American English to use the plural form.  The Rolling Stones are..., while R.E.M. is...; The Calgary Flames are... vs. D.C. United is..., etc.   Since "Tegan and Sara" is in the plural, it should be "Tegan and Sara are...".  Using the singular "is" in this case is just awkward. Resolute 22:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular band, or plural people? 

message: removed sourced information about the women's respective relationships, and then I reinstated it. Eightminuteepic then removed it again by stating that this was confirmed in a podcast...without actually linking to said podcast. I then reinstated the information again, but then EME removed it a third time. Aside from him/her violating WP:3RR (and I didn't reinstate the info because I don't want to violate 3RR myself), I wonder if EME doesn't quite understand what a source is. Simply saying something happened without backing it up doesn't really prove anything. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 03:50, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal lives 

message: Any reliable source for them being in the Feminist musicians category? 158.222.167.170 (talk) 04:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feminists?? 

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message: Were they named after two of them? :) Tegan Jovanka, Sarah Jane Smith 2001:56A:F03F:5200:D584:A02A:6743:60C1 (talk) 06:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that Tegan Jovanka was introduced a year after the twins were born (and named), I'd say no. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:12, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Doctor Who Companions

message: It's kind of interesting that the "personal lives" section hardly talks about their personal lives at all and focuses instead almost entirely on their mostly public gay rights activism and prominent involvement in the LGBT community. Certainly not arguing that any of the information in that section should be removed, but I think it's kind of weird how "Personal lives" is being used de facto as a euphemism for "Activism and Involvement in the LGBT Community"... I think it's odd that a group so prominently and widely associated with LGBT people and anglophone lesbians in particular is being written about as though their homosexuality were something ancillary and private, requiring euphemistic discretion. 
I'm not logged in because on my phone but my wiki username is rainspeaker I'm p sure. 
2600:1000:B023:606B:E182:E25A:F133:7B86 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Personal lives" section name