Talk:Within Temptation

message: GRONINGEN De Popprijs 2005 is gewonnen door Within Temptation. "Door deze groep heeft gothic metal in ons land een nieuw ijkpunt gekregen", zei de jury op het Noorderslagfestival in Groningen. Bron: NOS, 14-01-2005
Rough translation: GRONINGEN Within Temptation has won the Popprijs 2005. On the Noorderslagfestival in Groningen, the jury noted: "Because of this band, gothic metal in our country has gained a new reference point." Source: NOS, Jan. 14th, 2005
Shinobu 11:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right thats good, when they have 'zilch' to go with Gothic Metal apart from steming from the genre. Leyasu 16:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popprijs 2005 

message: The section regarding the Mother Earth album labels "Ice Queen" as the first single, however, the "Singles" section at the bottom lists "Our Farewell" to have come first. Which is correct? Their site lists Our Farewell as having come first, but I really don't know myself.
The Son Of Nothing 23:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The singles 'Our Farewell' and 'Ice Queen' were released.  — So I believe it was first Our Farewell. I'll correct it. Bryan 18:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mother Earth" singles 

message: There is a little mistake in the article, the intro says that Martijn Spierenburg was at the formation of WT, while the dates given lower in the article states that Ruud's brother Martijn Westerholt was at the formation, and left in 2001, being succeeded by Spiereburg. As Spierenburg is now the keyboardist in WT, and Westerholt did leave WT in 2001, I corrected the article. Bryan 14:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keyboards 

message: Overcome and Say my name are bonus tracks on 'Stand my ground' and 'Angels'  Bryan 18:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Say my name, Overcome 

message: The article states that there is a new band member as per 2006, for doing growls. This is definately not true. I am one of the forum moderators for WT and have regular contact with WT's management. I was informed five minutes ago that the rumour you posted on Wikipedia is definately nonsense and should be removed immediately. WT is currently working on a new album which should be released by the end of this year, but no details on guest appearances by any artist on that album have been made public yet.
You can confirm my presence on the WT-forum by looking up my username there, which is the same as my username here.
El Barkhuysen 16:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Member

message: The list of singles in the discography section of the article is ever-changing. Can anyone provide a definitive, sourced, addition that can end the editing and reverting? Erath 20:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles list 

message: seems like the new album have been leaked I downloaded it yesterday.. I hope they hurry up and launch it before its hype goes down, I am definitly getting this!! it's a great album to buy! Can't wait for the tour album/dvd :D  I found the silent force tour better than the album, Sharon's live performence is amazing <3 87.109.247.115 19:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Quoting right from the top of the article: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Within Temptation article. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject." You have also just admitted piracy on an open website which anyone can read. Erath 19:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

text: D!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.160.174.18 (talk) 12:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  new album leaked 

message: I was the one who made those changes in Discography, I just forgot to log in. AkiShinji 11:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography changes

message: I'm trying to make this into a well sourced article. I need some verifiable sources, especially on the earlier years of Within Temptation and on criticism from the metal scene on Within Temptation. If anybody has some, please post them here. Bryan 19:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources needed 

message: This is a new not yet released MMORPG from Within Temptation.
I think it should be in the article.
See tcos.com
:Ah, it's not by Within Temptation. The band only writes music for that MMORPG. And yes, it is mentioned in the article. Read closely and you will find the reference ;) Teo64x 15:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chronicles of Spellborn 

message: I've edited the date of release of Mother Earth Tour DVD, cause before was wrong: you've writed 2003, but it's 2002.. bye..--Donbu 14:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mother Earth Tour

message: Why isnt the UK album chart included ? isnt it the third biggest ?? might be something to include? (Neostinker (talk) 00:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK Chart 

message: I can't find anything on the internet about the release of Enter and The Dance in the US. Even their discography does not mention it, nor can I find some press release on it. I'm tempted to think that the ref that is given in the article just imports them from Europe. -- Bryan (talk|commons) 21:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release of Enter & The Dance in US 

message: Why is their song "Blue Eyes" not mentioned anywhere? It's not on any of the albums, bonus tracks, EPs, or singles lists. I don't know where it's supposed to be or when it was released, sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.253.127 (talk • contribs) 
:Wikipedia is a good resource of information, but we don't hold all the answers. If you can find more information about the song, feel free to add it to the article. Cheers! -- ReyBrujo (talk) 02:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you by any chance get that song from a p2p network? There are plenty of songs that get mistagged so it could be that you have a song by different artist that is tagged as being by Within Temptation. Offski (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Blue Eyes was on the extended edition of What Have You Done.  -- Bryan (talk|commons) 15:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

text: It was also on the compilation album "Destroyed," which for some reason isn't mentioned at all on this page.  Besides, it's pretty tricky to mistake Sharon's voice. Gamer 2k4 (talk) 04:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: *Confused*

message: Good that somebody has taken the time to remove those unfree images. Somebody has pictures lying around at the time WT brought out each album? -- Bryan (talk|commons) 19:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit summary is pretty clear. These images fit better the articles about the albums or singles than here, or any discography list. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 20:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I put those images there in a November 2005 edit, which predates the stringent rules on non-free content by some eighteen months. I understand the rules as is and a change needed to be made, but to resort to the ultimate layman's excuse, "it seemed like a good idea at the time". Erath (talk) 23:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yay for free images 

message: Do we really need a separate section on this right now? It's only got the one point, about Frozen. It would seem more sensible to include this in the bulk of the article where suitable, and on the page for "Frozen" itself. To have a separate section seems like it's trying to draw attention to the fact without the need for it given there's only one point to be made. Would anyone object to me moving the info and removing that section? Prophaniti (talk) 19:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philanthropy 

message: Okay Ada Kataki, here's your chance: could you please explain to us here why you are removing the allmusic reference terming them gothic rock, considering that it's A) published, B) using professional music journalists, and C) one of the most widely accepted and utilised music genre sources on wikipedia? Prophaniti (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here we go again... (genre) 

message: ok, there's a lot of fight for the genres but anything that has reliable sources can be published on wikipedia. Since Allmusic.com describes within temptation's style as Goth rock I agree with putting it into the infobox. I agree they're not a goth rock band, but they use Gothic rock elements (But mine or anyone's opinion doesn't count). Allmusic describes them too as a Gothic Metal band, and a symphonic metal band: " Goth metal stars Within Temptation marry the guitar-driven force of hard rock with the sweep and grandeur of symphonic music ". So I agree with putting this genres in the infobox:
*Gothic Rock
*Gothic Metal
*Symphonic Metal
*Symphonic Rock
-> opinions doesn't count, just sources.
Is everyone ok with that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneo.e (talk • contribs) 18:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: I've been trying to find reliable sources for the compilation album Destroyed. It's kind of weird that it's not available through their personal website, not acknowledged on any store website I've been able to track down, and otherwise has no real concrete information about it. The best I've found is this site with a box and some basic information. Going to leave this here before I create an entry for it. 66.245.66.61 (talk) 04:46, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's on Amazon, unavailable, however, no reviews either, just the cover and track listing. 87.78.17.2 (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Found the back cover. Looks real. What threw me off though is that they reused the Stand My Ground cover... And not listed in Discogs, or anywhere else... Still odd, but I guess the back cover, low res as it may be, seems legit. So far I thought it was a fan compilation 87.78.17.2 (talk) 18:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

text: No, I'm fairly certain this is an (elaborate) hoax. I can only find this album on BitTorrent, including the (Photoshopped) covers. Getting it listed on Amazon doesn't really seem impossible to me either (second-hand retailers should be able to add new item to their database, I'd guess). So unless someone can find a reliable source or store where I can purchase this album it should not be added. —Ruud 01:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Destroyed - Compilation album 

message: In the article there is written that the single "Stand my ground" reached number 1 in Germany, the Netherlands and Austria. But thats wrong, as you can see in the references and in the German/Dutch Wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.232.43.186 (talk) 21:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stand my Ground - all chart positions are wrong! 

message: Reference 12, in the Enter section, is broken. Anyone able to figure out what it's supposed to be and fix it? 128.113.136.143 (talk) 11:16, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Reference

message: A lot of people believe that WT actually performed a cover of "Wish you were here song" (originally by Rednex).
However, the version of "Wish you were here" usually associated with Within Temptation is actually performed by Blackmore's Night. The lead singers of both bands have somewhat similar voices, which led to the confusion. Within Temptation never performed "Wish you were here".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Getdefault (talk • contribs) 21:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion with Wish You Were Here 

message: Site indicates Q Music is a seperate album only for release in the Netherlands and Belgium. There still is an album in production for the later part of the year. From announcement: "At this moment, Within Temptation is working on their upcoming studio album that is due in the last quarter of 2013." "More information on The Q-Music Sessions, the tour as well as the upcoming album" Feel free to discuss. Sephiroth storm (talk) 11:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Q-Music Sessions 

message: Here's the thing. Does this article really need to start with a paragraph full of genre discussions? They are band that walks the line between metal and pop music, which is always a touchy subject for the more puritanical metal fans among us. But that is not the most important thing about them. Is there no other place to put it? Oh wait, yes there is. There's that rather large section on Musical Style — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.224.220.129 (talk) 19:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The summary is far too long in my opinion, it seems to have been extended like an article from some time onwards. It does not need to list every record or event, and also the aforementioned discussion of style is out of the scope of a summary. I hope that there will be a consensus to reduce it to maybe one third of the lines that are there now, by moving the content to the matching paragraphs. --Mopskatze (talk) 16:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Totally Not About Genre 

message: Since there's a specific article page for that subject, I think that the section here should be deleted, right?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 10mandown (talk • contribs) 21:06, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards and nominations 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: As the wiki uses it, symphonic rocks refers to an early style of progressive rock. However, I've seen no sources identifying Within Temptation as progressive rock. The way symphonic rock appears to be used here is one invented by the metal community to refer to symphonic metal bands that they do not consider to be be heavy metal, and does not reflect historic use of the term. I think the label symphonic rock should be removed as it leads to confusion now that it redirects to progressive rock. 
Ganondox (talk) 04:02, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symphonic Rock 

message: 1. 
Probable wrong-word or mis-spelled word, or non-English word in text.
Near the bottom paragraph of the subsection entitled this:
Hydra and various influences (2013–2016)
In the text that reads there as this::
The first official show happened on 26 February, in Helsinki, Finland, and the arena tour passed primarily in Europe, abranging a few summer festivals. 
The word in question is "abranging".
English dictionaries fail to recognize that is a valid word. I would change it unilaterally to something like "bypassing" or "circumventing", but I'm not sure what the author intended to mean. What does anyone think is meant?
Search Google and dictionaries -- the closest I find are Portuguese or Hindu works -- not English. That said I don't have ready access to an O.E.D. for cross-check. Online OED says "no match". James Rodriguez 12:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, native Portuguese speaker here. This word was added  by , who turns out to be a fellow Brazilian (and Portuguese speaker, presumably). I suppose it is an attempted translation of "abrangendo", a verb that could be translated as "include", "embrace" or maybe even "cover". I understand he meant the tour included some performances at summer festivals. Victão Lopes Fala! 02:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probable wrong non-English word in text: abranging 

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