Talk:The Family International/Archive 2

message: The article should describe where it started. Where in the UK? Andries 00:09, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: The pro-COG editors have tried to claim that the group has never been successfully charged with anything. Various sources have stated that this is anything but the case. In fact, a reading of the ruling by Justice Ward would appear to be more of a condemnation of their past than a vindication . Thorwald
*Can you please provide the links to the Court cases you list? You say "(see links below)" but I can only find links to UK, Argentina, and France. Can you add the links to Brazil, Italy, Japan, Norway, Peru, Spain, Sweden, USA, and Venezuela? --Audiofree
**Audiofree (please sign your posts): Firstly, I assume you meant me here. Secondly, I wasn't the one who added this list. Finally, you can find this list from the group's official web site: http://www.thefamily.org/dossier/. Of course, I shouldn't need to suggest that any information about the outcomes of these court cases described by them would necessarily be biased. PS: A similar list can be found at: http://www.cesnur.org/testi/TheFamily/se_thefamily.htm (note: this site has Dr. J. Gordon Melton as one of its primary editors). Thorwald 02:44, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Court Cases

message: A stub intended for discussion on the title. Thorwald 18:05, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Leadership, Regional Offices, and Management

message: I added a new section on finances. It's meant to be a starting point since I'm sure there's lots more interesting info. gcom 04:44, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
Can someone doublecheck my notes on tithing because I'm not certain I broke it down right (memory fails) gcom 04:44, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
*Update: I actually think the last 1% of tithe goes to the Family Aid Fund (FAF), however I won't edit this again until I have it confirmed gcom 07:28, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
Audiofree tried to delete these two sections, which was, IMHO, out of line.  I have restored the two sections.  See discussion at bottom of page.  Samboy 02:02, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tithing 

message: I added a new section on secrecy since it's such a strong trait of the group, it's mean to be a stub to start people off. gcom 04:44, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
*I think the new additions to Recent Teachings, Secrecy, and Finances are great and make for interesting reading.  The only problem I see is a half-paragraph at the end of "Secrecy" saying "people have conjectured that there is widespread corruption".  This is double wuss-speak: not only did these unnamed "people" claim corruption, they weren't even bold enough to allege it, they merely "conjectured" it.  It's also unclear what the term 'corruption' refers to in this context.  Can we please clarify, or remove this bit? ThePedanticPrick 19:48, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secrecy 

message: It looks like 168.143.113.5 has made a number of contributions which are more sympathetic to the Family than the general consensus of the article.  I have reverted most of this IP's changes (as has Thorwald before me).  However, this contributer has offered some information I felt worth keeping, so I have incorporated their contributions in to the page while retaining information 168.143.113.5 wants deleted from the page.  If anyone has anything to say on these edits, please bring up the issues here. Samboy 23:25, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Contributions by 168.143.113.5

message: From now on before I make edits I will generally discuss them here first. --Audiofree
I want to alphabetize all sub-sections under the Reference section of the article, ie “Academic”, “Journalistic and popular” etc.. I find it odd that the editors would seam to have an agenda by putting 3 “Kent, Stephen” links at the top of “Academic”. It seams to me that alphabetizing all the lists would make it most fair. If no one has a problem with that I will start making those changes. --Audiofree
I will also go through and make sure all the links under references from both the IP and Thorwald's show; I don't see why any external link to an academic or popular site shouldn't be listed. --Audiofree
*Audiofree: To sign your posts add four tildes '~' (i.e. "Thorwald 02:44, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Audiofree tried to remove two sections of this page, "Secrecy" and "Finances" in this edit; I put the sections back.  I don't see anything from Audiofree about removing two entire sections on the talk page. Samboy 02:00, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Audiofree|Audiofree]] removed two sections; I restored them 

message: *Is 'Prisca Kelley' a typo?  Did the author mean to type 'Priscilla'?
** No. 'Prisca' is really her name. That is, she spells it that way. Thorwald 05:07, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions