Talk:Garbage (band)

message: As the one who originally nominated the article for a GA reassessment, I was happy to see the article back up at GAN.  After taking another look at the article, I'm happy to say it is much improved, though in my opinion not yet up to GA standards.  Below are my suggestions to improve the article.  The below list isn't necessarily an exhaustive list of issues with the article, but it's definitely a good start.  That said, it seems like it might be alot of work, so I've failed the article nomination since I would imagine it might take a while.  That said, I'd be happy to take another look at the article once you feel it to be up to spec.  If the article gets renominated, feel free to drop me a note and I'll take another look: the GAN page can get a bit backlogged sometimes, so that might speed things up.  Anyways, without further ado:
*The biggest problem with the article is that it is almost completely a biography of the band.  That is to say, the vast majority of the article is simply historical information.  What about the band's sound?  Their live performances?  Group dynamic?  Any major controversies?  Have they ever won a Grammy?  Any other awards?  I'm not saying that all of this needs to be included, but you've really gotta give the reader more information than "X happened.  Then Y happened.  After that, Z happened."  As a good example of what I mean, check out Nine Inch Nails.  Yes, it's an FA article, but I think you might be able to see what I mean.
*Additionally, the article goes into waaaay too much detail about the band's chart performance.  That kind of raw data is much better left to the Garbage discography article.  When it comes to the band itself, does it really matter that ""Only Happy" peaked at #55 on the Hot 100"?
*Another short-coming is that the entire article only has one image (in the infobox).  Surely there's some images that would help describe each of the band's periods?  Again, I'd recommend taking a look at the NIN page.  But, be careful using copyrighted images.  Try and use free ones wherever possible, and only use copyrighted stuff where it really helps the article.
**  Ultra! 19:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Nomination 

message: I'm not much of an expert on Garbage or even really a fan, but when browsing through the article, something struck me as a bit odd - under the "Formation (1993-94)" section, mention is made of Xfm, which wasn't even created until 1997. Also, on several occasions times months are mentioned, but it is not clear to which year they refer. Any ideas?
Opticrom (talk) 12:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They could be talking about the pirate radio station that was stationed in a ship off-shore. They, XFM, were not the only ones doing that at that time to avoid scrutiny of the authorites. EnveeNV (talk) 19:54, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronology

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "Hits" :
** ""Hits (Stupid Girl trade ad)"" | (Retrieved - 2008-02-24)
** ""Hits ("Special" trade ad)"" | (Retrieved - 2008-02-24)
** ""Hits ("When I Grow Up" trade ad)"" (Retrieved - 2008-02-24)
DumZiBoT (talk) 01:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: I've removed the lines "Manson is reluctant to talk about her album, preferring to wait until it is released in early 2008. Manson was scheduled to finish recording the album in September 2007." Clearly, this information is out of date: if anyone has any references about a new release date (or any pertinent information at all about the album), the article would benefit from this information being added  Dom Kaos (talk) 15:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Manson's solo album

message: In the article it says: Manson has worked with a number of people on the project including Scottish songwriter Paul Buchanan, US rock musicians Jack White, Billy Corgan, Beck, Greg Kurstin and David Arnold.
Yet on her facebook page Shirley Manson writes:  I never said that I wrote music with Jack White, Billy Corgan OR the very lovely and talented Beck. Someone else did and so it got written up that I did in the press but it never happened.At least not in the real world. Maybe in my head.
Source: 
So I remove the sentence from the article, because I think there's no better source for this as Shirley Manson herself. ;) --84.142.240.140 (talk) 11:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong info in the article? 

message: It seems to me that the sections on each album are far too detailed for this piece on the band & much of the information would be more appropriately placed under the individual albums. Gwladys24 (talk) 21:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Info - Too Much?? 

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thread_title: File:GarbageLivein2005.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Garbage (band)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "PR":
From Blood for Poppies: 
From Not Your Kind of People tour: 
From Scottish Parliament: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Garbage (band)]] 

message: http://kultura.gazeta.pl/kultura/1,114526,11834058,Bil_kobiete_na_koncercie_Garbage__Wokalistka_kazala.html
because i used non-english source, so someone must translate it and confirm that the incident was true --82.139.5.13 (talk) 09:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  there was a incident in garbage's last concert. 

message: Shouldn't the Discography section be above Concert tours?--Lpdte77 (talk) 04:56, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography section 

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replies: text: Fixed link makes no mention of the band, the other two are dead. Section needs better citations and a rewrite. Karst (talk) 18:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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message: Page has the following text in the opening: "Garbage's debut album, Garbage, was critically acclaimed and an unexpected smash". The words "unexpected smash" are linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_hit . The later page includes in its definition "despite having relatively little promotion or lacking a successful opening". In this light, the statement about Garbage's debut album being a sleeper hit is certainly false as the Garbage page also notes: "The album debuted on the UK album chart at No. 12.[36]", so it certainly had a successful opening. I also doubt that the album had relatively little promotion, though I don't know. As to whether the album's success was expected or not, it's hard to imagine that nobody expected success from Vig's first studio album after he produced Nirvana's Nevermind. I suggest reword to "Garbage's debut album, Garbage, was critically acclaimed, sold over 4 million copies, and was certified double platinum..."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.28.133 (talk) 14:23, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  was their first album really a "sleeper hit"? 

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message: I'm not going to do it myself, but 1993–present, that's not exactly correct is it? 86.41.149.167 (talk) 22:32, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Is your point that they have had spells on hiatus during that period ? RGCorris (talk) 12:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years Active 

message: Saw them at Kew the Music on July 13th and I'm pretty sure the drummer wasn't Butch Vig. Anyone know the name of the drummer (I think Shirley mentioned it but I didn't catch what she said) and whether this is a permanent change or whether Butch will be back ? RGCorris (talk) 12:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touring line-up 2019