Talk:Wii/Archive 24

message: Last month the NPD numbers were ready by the 11th, well it's the 19th now and still no numbers.  Anyone know when NPD will release their numbers?  Dionyseus 23:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They were delayed, they will be available tomorrow. TJ Spyke 23:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS3/Xbox 360/Wii numbers released: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&sid=aeP6KYaQ4o_k&refer=technology —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs) 02:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Please see NPD Group. It is a data tracking company from US. They track a lot of products and release information about shipping and sales by analyzing the data and applying certain methods. They are the only one in US and Canada tracking videogame sales information. -- ReyBrujo 15:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They also don't release the all their data, you have to be a subscriber (which costs a few thousand dollars). They do release some numbers (although not specific ones. They would say a system sold 341K, general numbers like that). TJ Spyke 23:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No NPD numbers this month? 

message: . 10 W. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for WiiConnect24 power usage 

message: Now does anyone else think this is featured article material. IT is stable because t has been released for two months plus and all the media hype has died down. The Placebo Effect 12:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it well written (yes), comprehensive (Possibly...), factually accurate (yes), neutral (yes) and stable (yes)? Feel free to tell me off on some of these, I only gave the page a quick runthrough. NiVoMi 01:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not anything of an expert in the subject, but I feel a paragraph or two in the reception section detailing the Wii's financial success would be a good addition towards comprehensiveness. Currently, as far as I can see, the only part of the article which focuses on sales or the Wii's role in relation to Nintendo as a corporation is the infobox. Otherwise, it looks like a healthy, balanced, well-cited and generally comprehensive article. Good luck at the FA! Geuiwogbil 20:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This web page has more revisions than the Adolf Hitler wikipedia web page, so the Wii page is of quite a high importance in some way. It seems that besides being long overdue for a featured article, it should also be considered that even better images and photos could be made and other formatting improvements to make the page look more streamlined in general JayKeaton 02:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Wii will become more of intrest as the years progress.  People want to know more about it before purchasing, and they want to know how to use the Wii. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bashful201 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

text: A request would need to be made at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. It looks like someone did request it already... but for November 19, 2007 (the 1 year anniversary). Leebo T/C 20:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Great job. Do we want to wait till the one year anniversary to put it on the front page? The Placebo Effect 22:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that would be best. Whoever wants to request it for "Today's Featured Article" should request November 19 (the 1 year anniversary of it) for the day, since you can request a specific day for it to be listed (if it gets approved). TJ Spyke 22:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Congratulations everybody. I knew this would suceed when I put it up for nomination, but I didn't think it wpould get such overwhelming support! This stands testement to hoow good this article is, and how well the editors of the article have done. Kudos to you! Ixistant 10:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, it seems like just yesterday the article was promoted to good status...anyway, macaroni to everyone who worked on it! (I just had to use a word other than "congrats".) –Llama mantalkcontribs 17:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It is a featured article, but it has yet to be one of "Today's Featured Article"s.  --Maxamegalon2000 17:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a request on the WP:TFA page for it to be listed on November 19th (the 1 year anniversary of the system), it seems like the best date. TJ Spyke 22:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article? 

message: Here's an external link I found http://www.scriblerus.net/kunkelfruit/index.php?title=Nintendo_Wii. It's a how it's made on the Kunklefruit Wiki. Cadsuane Melaidhrin 03:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kunklefruit Wiki 

message: The most recent NPD sales figures (for January 2007) state that the Wii has sold 1,516,000 units. . The cited figure on this page is 1,720,000 units sold. However, if you go to the source for this figure it does not even mention a cumulative Wii sales total. Even if this figure supposedly includes Canadian sales, which only total 118,000,  the grand total would only be 1,634,000. As a result of this I changed the figures to the latest official NPD sales numbers. If someone can find a source for that higher number, then please go ahead and change it back. If not, then the change should not be reverted. Zomic_13 22:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The numbers are for North America, which includes Mexico and some Latin American countries. Back in December Nintendo gave sales for North America for November, so we don't have updated numbers for Mexico and Latin America. TJ Spyke 22:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My mistake. I swapped the Q3 report with Spyke's ref when I should have left both in. Just64helpin 18:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North American Wii Sales Figure 

message: I know this isn't the right place to do it, but I found a website with extremly acurate console sales info. It's this. If that dosn't work, search for it on google and click it from there. This will defenitly help Wikipedia track console sales. Give them some credit.--Randoman412 01:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: NO. That is NOT a reliable site. They GUESS their numbers, and then fix them when the correct numbers are announced. They will not be used (nor will VG Charts). TJ Spyke 01:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They guess their numbers. No one can check by the second. What they do is take the total amount of sales, divide it up into the average amount per second, and then set it for the numbers to update by that amount. It was agreed several months ago not to use either one since they aren't reliable for ACCURATE numbers. The numbers we use are confirmed and accurate (and not just guesses). TJ Spyke 02:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not your fault. It's just that even the site says it is just estimates. The data we use are from confirmed reliable sources (NPD, Media Create, etc.). TJ Spyke 02:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are in the article itself (next to the numbers in the infobox). TJ Spyke 03:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track 7th generation console sales! 

message: Yeah, there was a recent critic, Chris Heckler, who called the Wii a piece of shit. This claim is well-known (note the large amount of Diggs), certainly noteworthy to put in the section on "reception."
 69.138.31.96 19:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but then he took it back.  --Maxamegalon2000 19:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Therefore not noteworthy. --Thaddius 20:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, his name is Chris Hecker, not "Heckler". Just64helpin 18:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Piece of Shit" comment

message: Since this article is currently a FAC, i decided this would be the appropriate time to bring this up. Which of the external links, if any, should we keep? My feelings are neutral right now, but since this was talked about last before Wii was released, it needs one more talking about. The Placebo Effect 20:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly, may I ask, do you consider insufficient about our previous discussions and method of determining appropriate links? --Maxamegalon2000 21:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that it occured BEFORE the console came out and not after. The Placebo Effect 12:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There really isn't a need in a vote here, not to mention voting is evil. Both The Wiire and Cubed3 are user-submitted and may contain misleading information, thus are against criteria 2 of WP:EL. GameSpot and IGN are fine. Michaelas10 (Talk) 15:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean.  Both sites employ writers and an editorial staff.  What about the sites do you consider "user-submitted"?  And in case you didn't consider the possibility of containing "misleading information" simply a result of being "user-submitted", what makes you question the sites' information?  --Maxamegalon2000 15:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial links 

message: At the end of the second paragraph under Hardware it says   "To use the SD slot, a software update must be downloaded, so game saves cannot be transferred to or from a system that has not been connected to the Internet."  My Wii has not ever connected to the Internet but I'm able to view pictures off of an SD card. I have never tried to save a game to an SD card, but I still think this statement should be changed.Seventhofnine 07:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is what the update is for, it lets you put game saves on a SD card. That is basically what the statement says, although it could be worded a little better. TJ Spyke 07:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, photos were originally what the SD card was for, but an update allows you to back up your game saves (in case you run out of memory). --Purplepurplepurple 16:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reworded the information to make it clearer. Just64helpin 17:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Small typo in what you added "To use the SD slot for game save transferring, a software update must be downloaded, so a system that has not been connected to the Internet cannot utilze this feature.".  The word "'utilize'" is spelled incorrectly.  198.53.24.218 19:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Just64helpin 16:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: SD slot statement

message: can't we get a better photo of the wii —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Madcow 93 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's pretty good myself, but I could change my mind if someone presents a better free one (not fair use). TJ Spyke 22:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  wii photo 

message: I've moved some of the information out of the infobox and created a new subsection for it. This has been suggested in the FA discussion. If you have any comments regarding the change, please post them here. Just64helpin 13:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggested this before, and I tried doing something like this with the Nintendo DS article,  but it was put right back in the infobox soon after. Given the fervor among users about updating and "distilling" the numbers (which I've disagreed with), I somewhat let the issue go. Now that the issue has popped up again, I'm thinking there should something in the WikiProject guideline on this. It would solve a lot of problems. Dancter 18:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I will change it to Australia since the sales info we have are for Australia (and I don't know if they are including New Zealand like many do when talking about Australia. BTW, some people incorrectly think that Australia is also a continent (even though the correct name of the continent is Oceania). TJ Spyke 07:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are various different arguments. Australia is a continent (as continent refers to land mass), Oceania is the region of the south-western pacific. Often refered to as Australasia, because it is a combination of the two continents. However I don't think this is the place for that kind of discussion. Look up 'continents'. 137.166.4.130 12:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

text: You are right that this isn't the place, but Australia is only a country. It is part of the continent of Oceania. TJ Spyke 22:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A continent is a land mass.  Oceania's not a continent. Tim (Xevious) 16:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I know it was released in both on the same day, but the sales info we have is specifically for Australia, not Australia and New Zealand. TJ Spyke 04:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "System sales" subsection 

message: In the past on this talk page, there has been much discussion over whether or not this article should contain reference to the criticism of the name "Wii" sounding like a word meaning "urine". Some people argued against that suggesting that we'd have to mention other possible puns as well. So I was wondering if perhaps a "Wii (name)" article would be best. There we could discuss the name of the console and the criticisms people have had over the name. Voortle 21:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That article would almost instantly be nominate for deletion, and for good reason. There are already mentions here, which are enough IMO. TJ Spyke 21:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The name itself doesn't warrant a separate article. Just64helpin 21:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Creation of a "Wii (name)" article

message: Reference 51 - lawsuit over defective wrist-straps - is invalid. Can anyone else find the resource elsewhere? 65.34.181.27 12:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be helpful if you explained why it is "invalid". The phrase "defective wrist straps" is in quote marks for a reason. Just64helpin 17:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By "invalid", he meant, "expired". As in, the link no longer works. Bladestorm 17:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My mistake. I should be able to find an alternate source shortly. EDIT: Fixed. Just64helpin 17:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To avoid further confusion, you should state it as a "dead link" in future. And thank you for your input, leaving dead links unnoticed completely negates the whole point of having external links and makes wikipedia pages seem shabby and outdated. So, thank you for bringing this to the talk pages attention ^_^ JayKeaton 16:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 51 

message: Somebody ought to mention the remote problems under tech specs.  Ever hear of all those problem with the remotes flying through the windows?  Yeah. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mojestic Waffles (talk • contribs) 01:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) This page is about the system, not the Wii Remote. 2)People throwing the controllers is not the fault of the controller (it's because those people are too retarted to know how to HOLD ONTO THE CONTROLLER, even if the strap broke it isn't a problem unless you let go of the controller for some reason). TJ Spyke 01:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was already discussed in Archive 21, and noted in the FAQs. Just64helpin 16:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remote Problems 

message: It seems really unnecessary. It's described as a regular DVD case, now that isn't hard to visualize. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bebopblue (talk • contribs) 05:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although, the keep case is made from a nontransparent white plastic, which is not regular JayKeaton 16:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic of the keep case. 

message: I keep reading of difficulties getting this one but it's difficult to find a store which run out of them. Is there the possibility Nintendo is sending the units to the wrong places? It's an idea I got a few weeks ago... 85.18.201.168 18:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that being unlikely. Also for the future this section should only be used for comments regarding the article. --69.156.207.107 02:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii is difficult to find becuase the demand is so high. It is easily outselling every other system in every region (except for the DS, which is doing even better), TJ Spyke 02:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unit allocation 

message: Just wondering if the wii plays all gamecube games, or if there is some upgrade you need to be able to play them all. Please reply. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.13.79.133 (talk) 21:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it plays all GameCube games. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 21:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii plays all GameCube games (although region encoding rules still apply). However, unless you've imported GameCube games from another country, that is not an issue. Zomic_13 21:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the wii play ALL gamecube games? 

message: In the infobox on the right, should the Wii Remote's internal memory be listed under storage because of the ability to save Mii's? Leif902 21:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: no....thats about the controller, so it should go on the controller page, IMO Purplepurplepurple 20:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The focus of this console's hardware is the controller, so it should be mentioned on both pages.--Can Not 14:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the focus is not just on the controller. Anyways, it doesn't really have any impact on the system itself. TJ Spyke 22:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Look under "Storage": Wii#Technical specifications, or in the infobox. The Wii has 512MB of flash memory, you can also save onto SD cards. TJ Spyke 22:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memory and Storage