Talk:Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

message: Can someone explain how this film is in the Tim Burton continuity? It's not any more chronologically linked to Batman 1989 any more than Batman Begins is. And if this is, shouldn't all the other direct-to-video films be as well in this continuity? - guest.
:Er, what? The article clearly says that this film is not in the Tim Burton continuity. --Paul A 04:38, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Continuity

message: Does anyone else think Andrea, the Angel of Vengeance from Smallville was based on Andrea Beaumont? Daibhid C 15:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Smallville

message: I've removed this from the trivia section:
:*The name and general design of the Phantasm character eventually appeared in DC Comics canon as a disguise/alternate identity for the character Danny Chase, a member of the Teen Titans.  The smaller-than-average, teenaged Chase, a telekinetic, donned a disguise to hide himself from individuals seeking to kidnap and possibly kill him.  Using a hockey mask and lengths of cloth as a cloak and gloves, Chase made himself appear to be a disembodied, adult-sized entity called the Phantasm by concealing his smaller form within the cloak.  By supporting himself and the costume telekinetically, the Phantasm appeared to move without legs, and the gloves floated in the approximate place of arms without any visible connection to the Phantasm's "body".  Ultimately, Chase sacrificed his life to save others, but his soul and the souls of the otherdimensional world of Azarath merged to become a new Phantasm, a truly disembodied being with unspecified, quasi-mystical powers.
Danny first appeared as the Phantasm two years before the film was released, so if there's any connection it goes the other way. In any case, I'm not sure we need the whole story, just a link to Phantasm (comics) Daibhid C 22:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see this connection at all, but I think that a link to Batman: Year Two would be highly appropriate.  In appearance and characterization, the Phantasm is very clearly modeled after the Reaper.  A crucial difference is that in the movie the criminal turned out to be Bruce Wayne's love interest, while in the original comic it was her father.  However, the movie obviously intended for the audience to suspect the father, going so far as to have both characters voiced by Stacy Keach. MatthewDaly (talk) 23:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Danny Chase

message: *http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/index2.html?sec=1&subsec=1374
*http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/122085/Batman-Mask-of-the-Phantasm/overview
*http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117902185.html?categoryid=31&cs=1&p=0
*http://deseretnews.com/movies/view/1,1257,144,00.html
*http://www.batman-on-film.com/review_jett_phantasm.html
*http://cdn.libsyn.com/wordballoon/WBmartypasko.mp3
*http://www.animationartist.com/2000/Interviews/Screenwriters/Michael_Reaves/MReaves.html
*http://www.awn.com/mag/issue2.1/articles/kubin2.1.html
*http://wordballoon.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=252744
*http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=interviews/dana-delany
*http://purpleplanetmedia.com/eye/inte/pdini.php
*http://www.mania.com/52977.html
*http://forums.toonzone.net/archive/index.php/t-128186.html
*http://news.toonzone.net/2000/jun/02/timm_interview.php
*http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=55
*http://www.fanboyplanet.com/interviews/mc-brucetimm.php
Wildroot 23:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations for use

message: This article is excellent with the exception of some prose issues. I'm putting the nomination on hold until these are fixed.
#"Both the Joker and Andrea eventually disappear" How do they disappear? What happens to the Joker?
#"The storyline becomes complicated when Valestra hires him to kill Batman, enforcing upon a series of events, including the death of Valestra done by The Joker." I just can't figure out what this means.
#"As the storyline continues, Bruce and Andrea are set for marriage, but Bruce is given a farewell note from Andrea ultimately ending the event. This eventually leads into Bruce's decision to become Batman. Richard Corliss of Time further addressed the situational irony, but referred to the scene whereas Andrea finds her father Carl dead by the hands of an assassin (later to become the Joker)." I also don't understand this. What irony, exactly? 
#"The filmmakers felt it was a failed marketing campaign brought by Warner Brothers as to why the film was a disappointment." ???
#"Analysts found themes of the storyline with tragedy, flashbacks and consequences of decisions." This doesn't really tell us anything unique about the story.
:I see what you mean. However, the lead section of a wikipedia article is suppose to "introduce" to the reader what he/she is about the read. That's why the themes are listed, because there's a section on the Themes of the storyline.Wildroot (talk) 21:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That was the problem, though. This sentence doesn't introduce any themes, it just says that the movie has them, and that it has tragedy and flashbacks. Just about every movie has these things. I think it needs to be just a little more specific. Wrad (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I just did another quick copy edit. It should be good now. Great work! Wrad (talk) 21:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA on hold 

message: In the episode Epilogue, an aged Andrea Beaumont AKA The Phantasm was assigned to murder Terry McGinnis' parents by Amanda Waller as a part of Project: Batman Beyond.  This would thereby push McGinnis pyschologically to become The Batman.  Beaumont refused, possibly remembering the murder of her father and Bruce's parents. McGinnis' father was later murdered and that was the catalyst needed to turn him into The Batman.  Dxf289 (talk) 21:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This has rarely anything to do with Mask of the Phantasm. That information would be better off in the Andrew Beaumont page.—Wildroot (talk) 15:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance in Justice League Unlimited 

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thread_title: Discussion pertaining to non-free image(s) used in article

message: I'm curious as to why what an internet personality like the Nostalgia Critic thinks warrants inclusion. Technically speaking, he's not even really giving an award and it's not a recognized accolade like, say, the Oscars or BAFTAs. So why have it? BalanceFish (talk) 11:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point, so I went ahead and removed it.-5- (talk) 09:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards section 

message: Who calls it Batman: The Animated Movie. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 00:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate name 

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