Talk:Alan Ladd

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Veronicalake3.jpg

message: Postdarwin (talk) 11:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She's described as a high-school acquaintance because that's what she was:  someone he knew from high school.  It could have read "He had married a former fellow student from his high school days," but "high-school acquaintance" was briefer and said the same thing.  It doesn't suggest that she *remained* a "mere acquaintance" after they married, just that she was someone he had known slightly in high school. Monkeyzpop (talk) 17:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: First wife

message: Hello... Why are there two different methods of suicide listed here? Is it in dispute? Some of this article is pretty loose, -On the plus side there is some info here I had not read before so thanks to who ever did the work on this page. It just needs some further tending & clean up- I always liked Alan Ladd... Cheers  71.6.81.62 (talk) 01:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Suicide

message: is it true mr ladd was johnny adams sponsor and was to start a gim.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.40.118 (talk) 21:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *gym --98.246.156.76 (talk) 19:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Boxer johnny adams

message: I wish to point out the link on the main page for Alan Ladd film titles One Foot In Hell does not connect to the film page but instead connects to a music album titled One Foot In Hell and needs correcting. There is a film page for this One Foot In Hell (film). On You Tube there is a film uploaded titled Gangs Inc. (1941) starring Alan Ladd which is not listed in the Alan Ladd film titles on this Wikipedia site ? Ladd also did an episode in the TV series General Electric Theatre titled Committed in 1954 also shown on You Tube. Somebody who knows how to edit this site competently should add this in further complete the information.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.54.203 (talk) 23:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have corrected the link for One Foot in Hell, and taken the liberty of making this into a new section.Alfrew (talk) 17:51, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmography

message: On January 29, 1964, at age fifty, Alan Ladd was found dead at his Palm Springs home of an overdose of sedatives and alcohol.
: can someone please enter that as the cause of death. i can't edit protected pages yet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phorc (talk • contribs) 09:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done by someone else prior to this edit.—DocWatson42 (talk) 09:42, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death 

message: I watched movie on the GetTV network entitled "Paratrooper" (1954) with Alan Ladd
 It's not in your list of his movies. Wanted to bring to your attention.
173.209.211.246 (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The film "Paratropper" is also known as "the red beret", and the latter is mentioned on this page.--Snaevar (talk) 20:29, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2014 

message: Why does this article have an entire section on his height?  And why is this protected?  The log said it should have expired years ago when I looked.
*Ladd's height has been debated in a wide variety of both popular and academic works, far more than that of the vast majority of celebrities, and a clarification is entirely pertinent to an understanding of his public persona, especially in light of his sense of low esteem over it.  The references linked in the section are from a government record and from a noted work of film history, and as such are completely acceptable as references on Wikipedia.  Deletion because the references are merely "titles of books," as has been posited by a deleter is both inaccurate and unjustified.  Monkeyzpop (talk) 08:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The section includes a factoid, without context. Book titles add nothing. If his height was relevant to his career, that should be explained. In any case, it doesn't warrant an entire section even if it's not trivia. --Light show (talk) 08:27, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: How is this a book title?  Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.  It's a legitimate source, even if book titles were not themselves legitimate sources.  And if book titles are not legitimate citations, 99% of everything in WP must be deleted, as book titles comprise the vast majority of all references.  Perhaps Ladd's height does not deserve a full section itself, but the topic certainly is deserving of illumination, perhaps as a sub-section of Personal Life, as it is an integral part of the public memory of the actor, and not merely a piece of trivia.  It is mentioned in films (ELECTRA GLIDE IN BLUE, for example), in many, many, many books, in interviews with Ladd's colleagues (Sophia Loren, for example) and his peers (Robert Mitchum, in numerous interviews).  I invite other comment, both on the subject of inclusion of the height material and on the acceptability of book titles and public records as legitimate sources for citation. Monkeyzpop (talk) 08:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A book title without a specific page citation and context means nothing. A military spec source with his height, weight, hair and eye color are facts, and without context they're trivial facts. If you're trying to improve the bio, adding an entire section about some speculations about his height isn't doing it.--Light show (talk) 09:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm always reluctant to enter such disputes -- Monkeyzpop is correct that Ladd's AER reference is a legit source, but Light show is correct that the other references need page numbers to be valid references.  (Book titles do not comprise the "vast majority" of cites, at least in my WP experience.) As to whether Ladd's height is relevant to his career -- is it?  I don't see how.  I've heard it mentioned that he was short, but so what?  Tom Cruise is short too, and it's mentioned often, but is it encyclopedic? I personally don't think so.  My two cents. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 10:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A height section? 

message: A statement was made that Ladd was perfectly paired with Lake because it was hard to find any other actresses shorter than Ladd. That's not factual. The majority of actresses in Hollywood at the time were statistically likely to be under 5'6", as the average height for women at the time was under 5'4". As a matter of fact, there were many, many major actresses under 5'2", Bette Davis and Judy Garland to mention only a couple among many. A Lake was probably under 5' tall, not 5'1". It would have been sufficient to state that Lake and Ladd were a good height match and leave it at that. Additionally, the Houseman comment about height should be removed due to being nonsensical and simply snotty. He's saying he knows Ladd's innermost thoughts and judgments about fellow actors, which is ridiculous. It's just hearsay and shouldn't be included. Orvwhot (talk) 02:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Statements 're Veronica Lake 

message: Why is there a section of this article under 'Filmography' on 'Unmade films'?? Is there a valid reason why that section should not be deleted? And, what exactly constitutes an "unmade film", so as to warrant its listing in a movie actor's bio.? Such lists, if truly notable and worthy of inclusion as part of the biographical articles on actors in Wikipedia, could turn into almost endless listings of all sorts of failed concepts, unmade scripts, cancelled productions, etc., etc. At the very least, if someone thinks the 'Unmade Films' section of Ladd's article should be retained, then a short paragraph should be included at the beginning of the section explaining what it is exactly, that the list represents. --- Professor JR (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Note:  The 'Unmade Films' section of 'Alan Ladd' article is being considered for Deletion. If an editor or editors believe there is a valid reason for its inclusion in that bio. entry, then that editor or editors should add an introductory paragraph at the beginning of the section explaining what it is that the list represents -- that is, explaining what exactly constitutes an "unmade film", so as to warrant a list of same in a movie actor's bio., as opposed to, say, brief mention of certain key roles that the actor was considered for, but never got, in the text or body of the article. Long lists of this sort (or "Unmade Filmographies") -- if truly notable at all, or worthy of inclusion as part of the biographical articles on actors in Wikipedia -- could turn into almost endless listings of all sorts of failed concepts, unmade scripts, cancelled productions, etc., etc. --- Professor JR (talk) 10:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

text: There is certainly precedent for a small collection of "missed roles", when a notable actor was offered a notable role that later went to another notable actor (example: John Wayne); but few or none of the films or roles listed in this section appear to qualify as notable.  All important Hollywood actors are offered roles that they pass up, for various reasons, most of which are not notable.  I agree that to give any consideration to keeping this section, there would need to be an explanatory paragraph listing the criteria for inclusion; otherwise this section will surely degenerate over time into a list of every movie made in the '40s, '50s, and early '60s that Ladd wasn't in. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 00:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   you seem, if anything, to be adding to this list, rather than working on the explanatory paragraph recommended above.  That should really be your priority, as the section seems unlikely to survive without it. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 04:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Delete. Lots of actors get considered for untold roles. That's the nature of the business. Unless they're really notable (George Raft comes to mind), they don't deserve mention, much less listing. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:16, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Unmade Films' (??) section of 'Alan Ladd' article 

message: His film, "The Red Beret" was more latterly released as "Paratrooper".  It has aired on Freeview TV on three different occasions over the last few months.  The credits state that it was based on the book, "The Red Beret".  It could be that this film was released in USA under this original title with "The Red Beret" kept as the British one.  I think this alternative title is important to highlight because there is now a new generation of people who might be unable to make the link up.  The same logic applies to Susan Stephen who starred with Alan Ladd.
79.70.53.51 (talk) 09:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. clpo13(talk) 16:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2016 

message: Mention the series "The Damon Runyon Theatre ". Alan Ladd's company produced them.  Include ? Jakescows (talk) 21:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayfair productions 

message: The article says he is buried at Forest Lawn. He is not buried. He is interred in a mausoleum Mercman111 (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alan Ladd grave site