Talk:Natan Slifkin

message: (This was posted yesterday. I assume it was deleted by accident.)
IZAK, I guess it all depends on how one evaluates things. Rav Elyashiv once took a position in the Chief Rabbinate against the wisdom of Rav Shach and others, but then admitted his error, left, and did teshuva.	 
He has deep respect for Rav Kuk personally as a scholar (if I recall, I think Rav Kuk was even his mesader kiddushin or something like that?), but shows no respect to his students in practise. He views the Chief Rabbinate as an institution to be manipulated for pragmatic reasons, and fights for chareidi control of it, while at the very same time despising it. His support for the choice of the current Ashkenazic chief rabbi was an example of his mix of derision and power-pragmatism, as you can and should find out by reading the news on this from when it was current.	 
		 
Rav Elyashiv does have enormous influence on chareidi rabbinical judges who consult him, while he remains "pure" by not actually holding a position any longer. The minority of non-chareidi ("Zionist") rabbinic judges fight his influence, and every time new judges are appointed there is a power struggle. Read some recent news at the "Yahadut" section of nrg.co.il every week for updates on the agunah battles, all of which are ultimately fights against Rav Elyashiv's influence from the outside on the rabbinical courts.	 
		 
Rav Elyashiv has a number of books and people, usually without any due process, and never speaking to the people involved. That was a major aspect of the Slifkin debate. One may claim that this is par for the course, but to many others like myself it is both very troubling and highly noteworthy. In one famous case the rabbi involved called to request to speak to him after he suddenly found that the chareidi newspapers were attacking him, and Rav Elyashiv simply hung up the phone. I have no POV trouble seeing RE as an "extremist" and I hope it is now clear why, though of course descriptions like that can never go in an article. You differ and I respect that, but please don't say it is based on ignorance. To me and to many others, RE's past associations with the rabbinate and Rav Kuk have become meaningless, and he has taken exactly the same position in the "Litai" world previosly occupied by Rav Shach.	 
		 
What changed here is that for the first time ever, instead of the yeshiva world remaining silent out of respect for RE, there was a huge, open, vocal protest. Read the links at the bottom of the article. I'll see if I can dig up more stable links.	 
Plus, I do think it is historically important that we know the exact date when non-creationism suddenly became invalid for a large part of the Orthodox world. Dovi 14:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rav Elyashiv

message: Reading through the talk page, I wanted to clarify one point.
 
Aish is certainly a charedi organisation.  No question at all.  I know the group very well, and I say this with complete authority.  
Their head is a Weinberg, they follow the rules laid out by charedi rabbis in their every action, they serve only the best heksherim, the rabbis are mostly black-hatters.  They have little time for zionism and work closely with a number of major rebbes.  Their actions are dictated at every step by charedi halachists, such as Rabbi Berkovitz.  They are really hardcore.  No doubt.
jucifer 15:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aish HaTorah 

message: The following section: 
:"Other recent Haredi books banned by Haredi rabbis
*Larger than Life, by Rabbi Shaul Shimon Deutsch, banned by the rabbis of Chabad-Lubavitch because it depicts Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the last Rebbe of Chabad-Lubavitch, as a mortal.
*Making of a Godol by Rabbi Nathan Kamenetsky, son of Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky. Haredi rabbis issued a ban on the book as it appeared in 2002, claiming that it undervalues the rabbis whose life it describes."
was removed from the article by User:Jfdwolff who states in his edit summary: "rm biased list of "also banned " books - arbitrary off-topic"  -- however the question remains why this is "off-topic"? It would seem that this is the underlying topic of the entire episode, and is surely no worse than a "See also" section. Where then should such a section go? User:HKT did precisely the same thing with the Making of a Godol article (see Talk:Making of a Godol#Section removed: books banned by Haredi rabbis). This deserves more discussion. IZAK 14:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section removed: Haredi books banned by Haredi rabbis 

message: Before you edit here. Please read all the talk above. Preserve what has been said here, and use it to understand what is on the page now. --Metzenberg 01:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Read the Talk before you edit.  

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Slifkin creation.jpg

message: Is the good Rabbi married to that lemur? She seems to be with him in every photo I've seen. Myles325a (talk) 07:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They are currently separated :) DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 12:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabbi Slifkin's companion 

message: Looking for feedback regarding Slifkin's website and blog from External links to Other writings and if necessary change that section to other works. My thought process is as this is the aricle's subject's own work they deserve precedence in the list of footers and should go with his books.  Menachemsdavis (talk) 06:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Websites to External links 

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message: Just to clarify a point, the Yeshiva Ohr Somayach in Jerusalem does not ordain Rabbis
It has a program that allows relevant individuals to learn the course material to obtain Semicha.
It does not in any way ordain Rabbis, and does not provide any certification for it. 
An individual Posek ordains Rabbis, and has no connection to Ohr Somayach. He is not paid by Ohr Somayach nor is he affiliated with them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:6500:A043:C25A:F5FA:C6A4:106E:D555 (talk) 10:21, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ohr Somayach is a Kiruv Yeshiva and does not ordain Rabbis