Talk:Paladin

message: While the word is supposed to derive from the latin root palatinus, does anyone know if this word is at all related to the Arabic terms Pulah d'hiin? d'hiin is a common suffix in Arabic which means "of God," and the concept of a "holy warrior" was much more prevalent in the Muslim world than the Christian one. Since the history of the word "paladin" supposedly started in the 15th and 16th century, there's a good possibility it may be an adopted word. Anyone have any idea? Spectheintro 02:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Dungeons & Dragons, yes.  See Paladin (character class) for more on that specific kind of paladin.  -- Smerdis of Tlön 20:20, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: This error is characteristic of the current low standards of this article. We're trying to sort it out at the bottom of the talk page but so far no progress has been made.--Cúchullain t/c 22:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holy Warrior 

message: Some professor needs to take a look at this article and bring some "cogency" to it.  Paladins- palace, attached to the palace.  This article is more about the Song of Roland than anything else.
The article is mainly about the Paladins as a syonym for the 12 Peers of France. Perhaps some more info on the word itself could be added. I don't know enough about it, or I'd do it.--Cuchullain 20:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen it in books on The Roman Empire (47BC-end) and added the information. There you see how the connection to a palace evolved along with the word palace. --FlammingoParliament 16:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attached to the palace 

message: Well, finally there is some info on the history, at least there was (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paladin&oldid=87427792). This was a nice evening, and since I'm a bit of a history buff, I finally wanted to save my favorite fantasy game character from staying one ;-) 
Anyway, there is still nothing on the Hungarian title, or maybe there is in a different article, too late now for that, but this would be great, if anyone knows more? --FlammingoParliament 23:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History - Hungary etc 

message: The dispute above suggests two options: Either the article is extended from its present form on, with the Roman and the Mediaeval palatinus, and "paladin" as well as paladine and palatine are considered an exact translation, or the Roman office and the Mediaval title need to be seperated as only loosely related concepts.
--FlammingoParliament 12:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's my position: this article should stick to what paladin means today. That is, the concept of a medieval Champion, also one of the 12 Peers, etc. This is related to the Roman title, and to the various later titles with similar names (count palatine, the Roman Catholic palatinus, and others.) But it is not the same. I gave links to four online dictionaries, Encarta, dictionary.com,. Merriam-Webster, and the American Heritage dictionary None give the Roman title, or as a meaning of paladin. They usually did, though, have an entry for the Roman imperial position, given under palatine, palatinus, palatini, or some variant. I simply see no other option than to have two separate articles, one for the position, preferable under the title "palatine" or "palatinus", and one for modern concept of the paladin, which can't go anywhere else besides "paladin". What Flammingo suggest above seems like it could be appropriate for the palatinus article, but it is flatly inappropriate here, as no dictionary I've consulted gives that definition for the word (perhaps one could be found, but it would be a moot point, considering that the ones I linked to are pretty major.)--Cúchullain t/c 19:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC

message: I think the line "They are often seen as a over powered as they can deal damage and heal them selves" needs to go. While I understand exactly what the author means, it's a subject entirely unrelated to the topic and belongs on one of the disambiguated pages. Anyone mind if I cut it? Col.clawhammer 13:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. It was probably just a joke anyway.--Cúchullain t/c 23:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Present Day" section 

message: The argument regarding the preferences for/against this artifact (or relic, I don't recall) is irrelevant.  It is of chaotic evil alignment, and hence unusable by any paladin. JasonPresyl 04:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Demon-forged Ebon Blade of the Endless Sorrow

message: Here's my suggestion: we want an article which focuses on the title of palatine. However, it can't go here, as the word paladin doesn't mean that in the English language. So, it must be moved to a new title: "palatine" is my preference. That article can have a brief section on paladin and the Charlemagne legend and will otherwise retain most of the information that's here. But most of the material on Charlemagne's paladins should be in its own article; it can't go under any other title than "paladin". For that article I propose the first paragraph explains paladin and the development. Then we include a section on "etymology", which explains where the term comes from, how it is related to "palatine" and derives ultimately from "palatinus", and explain what all those mean. That section will also have a brief synopsis of the word "paladin"'s history - how it came to English, and its later meanings beyond the Matter of France. Then a section on the paladins in the context of the chansons de geste and in later variations on the Matter of France (such as the Orlandos). Finally a section on modern use of "paladin", such as in role-playing games, etc. The material on "palatine" will be retained and moved to a page under that title. Thoughts?--Cúchullain t/c 19:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have begun work on the article Palatine. I have also created/fixed the necessary redirects, which had fallen into confusion due to the confusion within the article.--Cúchullain t/c 19:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After no discussion for ten days I'm going to go ahead and reformat the article. As I indicated the "palatine" material is already at palatine.--Cúchullain t/c 21:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--Cúchullain t/c 23:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

text: And very well done indeed.  I'm glad this got resolved in a sensible way. Languagehat (talk) 16:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Languagehat. More ought to be done, but I think we're much more on the right track now.--Cúchullain t/c 02:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: This is a fairly heated debate in my family due to bloodlines and whatnot, but someone should look into the official names of the men that were sent with priests as protection when the priests were sent to less friendly parts of the world.  
i know that they were not named "Paladins" but (and this may just be a fairy tale) since they wore armor, and were caste for combat they were often more impressive looking than the priests, and therefore commanded more attention.  When they would travel with a priest for long enough, they would have near the same understanding of the subject, in much more aesthetically impressive packaging.  
I believe that these men are what the pop culture "Paladins" are referring to.  however this will require more research, which anyone else is welcome to do at the same time as me.
Anyone wishing to contact me about the topic corrysangel@gmail.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.24.73.60 (talk) 11:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  possibility? 

message: Have Gun–Will Travel --Pawyilee (talk) 14:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Surprised to find no mention whatsoever; it was one of the top 3-4 TV series in the late 50's, and what most Americans would have immediately thought of in those days at the mention of "Paladin". JohndanR (talk) 15:08, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What I was looking for 

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message: 71.219.13.190 (talk) 18:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:58, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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