Talk:Economy of Mexico

message: :> The administration of President Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de Leon
Huh? This article is at least three years out of date... -- Viajero 19:08, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  older entries 

message: I made some changes to the article and added more stuff related to Trade, GDP, the maquiladora sector and Poverty, and restructured the whole article. I also took the "need for improvment in quality" sign. If anybody has any comments related to what I just added, or if you believe the sign shouldn't be taken away, let me know, and we can discuss it. --J.Alonso 03:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi J.Alonso, thanks for improving this article!. I only made some minor changes and I created Template:Economy of Mexico table according to the table you had created. Silversink 04:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: I find the following paragraph misleading and I that is why I had originally eliminated it: Income distribution remains highly unequal, with the top 20% of income earners accounting for 55% of income. If municipalities of Mexico were classified as countries in the HDI World Ranking, Benito Juárez, one of the political districts in D.F., would have a similar development than that of Italy, whereas Metlatonoc, Guerrero, would have an HDI similar to that of Malawi.. 
First, it is not surprising that 20% of income earners account for 55% of income, especially in capitalist societies. In fact, many developed countries have such disparities, including the United States. If you review the GINI index, only a copule of small social-democratic European countries and a dozen of LDC (least developed countries), feature low levels of inequality; in the latter case, the "equality" means that the majority of the country is poor. To given an example, inequality in the US (as measrued with GINI index) is 46.6, whereas inequality of Côte d'Ivoire, the Phillipines, Ecuador, Uganda, China and Cambodia is less than that of the US. 
The second part of the paragraph is comparing apples and oranges. First HDI is not a measure of inequality per se, as the GINI index would be, and HDI includes other characteristics besides income. Secondly, a reader cannot determine how bad inequality is if you compare Metlatonoc with Malawi given the following reasons: 
*one is a small municipality with only 30,000 residents, and the other a country with a population of 13 million, the municipality is integrated into a larger economy, Malawi is the "large economy" by itself
*one is an open municipality; that is residents can access public services offered at nearby municipalities for free; in fact, even in developed countries, several municipalities may "share" public services (i.e. hospitals and schools), and in which these services are located at the biggest municipality. In Malawi, on the other hand if these services are not offered within the country, there are no options, but to leave the country.
Moreover, a reader cannot determine how bad the disparity is among municipalities in Mexico if there are no similar figures for other countries (i.e. how would you compare the HDI of the poorest municipality in Argentina, Brazil, or Spain and the United States to the HDI of Malawi? Or, how different is HDI from the poorest municipality in the aforementioned countries with the riches municipality?) Such comparisons would be more "apple-to-apple" comparisons. We may be surprised if we find that inequality between Metlatonoc and DF is not as big as the disparity between say a municipality in rural Poland and Warsaw.
Given the fact that this paragraph was re-inserted in the text, I propose that we open a discussion to review its relevancy. --J.Alonso 20:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The comparison was made by the UN itself. I don't see how you Einsteins talk as knowledgeable economists in order to delete something... Silly comparisons exist, but they are useful. Plus this is not a silly comparison, the GINI index in some parts of Mexico is as high as the highest around the world, period. While the GINI in other places is as low as the lowest, period.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.221.85 (talk) 03:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Income

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Was added by an IP address registered to the World Bank Group (doingbusiness.org is a World Bank project). In keeping with our conflict of interest and external links guidelines I've moved it here for consideration by regular editors of this article who are unaffiliated with the site. -- Siobhan Hansa 20:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Several of the replacement crops proposed for rural income as a substitute for income from corn are perennial crops which take a few years to bear and longer to turn a profit. Before NAFTA the larger corn farmers produced more yellow corn while industrial mills making flour and tortillas bought from CONASUPO. When American farmers entered the market the larger farms moved over to white corn and sold directly into the industrial market. Sourcing small quantities of surplus corn for centralized end users under the old system is an uneconomic or marginal activity. The government crop finance system that served the small farmers was cut back well before the smaller farmers could switch over from dependence on selling surpluses from CONASUPO. As well as farmers producing alternative crops they could have used their corn surplus locally to produce poultry and other small stock. While the cost of production might be lower elsewhere the cost to a consumer is cost of production plus shipment. Local farmers have a comparative advantage on sales to their immediate community especially since the cost of interstate shipment in Mexico is higher particularly off the highway system. There needs to be longer term investment from outside the rural communities to put either alternative crop production or small stock production on a firm economic footing. RichardBond (talk) 00:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Crop observation

message: I got rid of the "in construction" template, however, there is a section that is still missing that I will add in the future: Government (with information about Banco de México, International Reserves, public debt, taxes, regulations, Fobaproa). Some sections still need to be pruned or enhanced and extended, especially that of regional economies (add a little about specialization and internal trade) and the service sector (which should be expanded by adding stuff about the banking sectors, the impressive growth of credit as a way to finance household consumption, and ironically the slow [or null] growth of credit to entrepreneurs and small industries, and of course, about BMV). But, I have to take a small break. So far, this page has not been vandalized. But, given my experience in the article about Mexico, I don't have high hopes, and it is exhausting to deal with uncollaborative users who shred the work of others to pieces. If this happens to be the last article I work with, I want to do my best.  --theDúnadan
:You've done great, and though I regret not being able to help more, for time-related reasons, I will strive for this article to continue improving, as you most certainly improved it! Hari Seldon 06:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A break

message: added links in the fta section. also changed # of ftas. by my count it is 44, including the 27 in the EU, and excluding venezuela, who pulled out of the g3 MrGears 04:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ftas 

message: In the ecoomic history section, it says that GDP increased 6 fold from 1940 - 1970 but in the table it did not add up to 600% but rather about 100%.
Im just curious as to what the exact figures are. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.2.93 (talk) 09:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDP unclear 

message: According to this page Mexico had a workforce of 38.09 million in 2004, acording to the 'mexico' article the population of mexico was 103 million in 2004, in this article the unemployment is 3.2% that means than about 35% of the population is in the workforce. Is the unemployment measured as a percentage of the population or of the workforce? and why is the workforce so small? I would guess it is due to a relatively young population and traditional gender roles (housewives, or women working in agriculture but not measured as such) but that would just be prejudice, anyone got the facts?
- curious person 29 november 2007  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.235.0.157 (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Workforce 

message: Hopefully this helps in expanding the Aerospace section
http://www.shephard.co.uk/Rotorhub/Default.aspx?Action=745115149&ID=e70bfa73-9415-4292-9140-154d081a77c1  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesusmariajalisco (talk • contribs) 22:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: I have made some alterations. In the main table I have introduced the two GDP per capita values -- the PPP and the nominal ones -- since articles about other countries' economies do the same. The values I introduced are those from the IMF, since that was also the source chosen for the GDP raw values. And the following sentence
*GDP per capita levels circa 2900 were on par with Argentina and Uruguay, almost three times that of Brazil and Venezuela.[9]
I have removed due to the following reasons: 1) it is poorly formulated (2900?), 2) its last assertion - that Mexico's GDP per capita is or was three times that of Brazil or of Venezuela - doesn't correspond to contemporary values (probably never did), and 3) the source given for the that doesn't back it up. See this [], at page 148 -- the alleged source for that information.Guinsberg (talk) 03:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alterations 

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message: This section was removed. It was the only information in the article about the most important aspect of the Mexican economy. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:47, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Here are some sources we should start by consulting: Stephen D. Morris. (2009) Political Corruption in Mexico: The Impact of Democratization.  ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I beg to differ, cash is more important than socks when packing. Now all we have is silence. Neither the Mexican people, visitors, or foreign businessmen have what what they need to know. They might think they can just offer cash without using a gestor as an intermediary. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That said, by all means please add information from those sources. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: With the exception of http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Political_Science/people/documents/ThePoliticalEconomyofNarco-CorruptioninMexico.pdf those sources are both inferior, blaming corruption on the PRI which is long out of power, and behind paywalls. The accessible PDF file, "The Political Economy of Narco-Corruption in Mexico" is 14 years old and concerned with narcotics corruption, not the everyday grind of trying to conduct ordinary business. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They are still immensely more useful than a news report on a single case of corruption. There must be more recent books on Mexcian economy that can be used of course, I'll look for some.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:32, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

text: A source they cite Mexico: Illicit Financial Flows, Macroeconomic Imbalances, and the Underground Economy A January 2012 Report from Global Financial Integrity User:Fred Bauder Talk 09:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Those should be good to work with combined with the OECD and the political corruption stuff.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: More: "COMPARMEX Reveals New Statistics on Corruption" "Gastan empresas 10% de sus ingresos en actos de corrupción: Coparmex" "Sector patronal urge a combatir la corrupción" User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It all looks good. I am sorry for not having worked on this - i am a little tied up elsewhere, ut I am looking forward to coming back and writing this section if you don't beat me to it. The lack of a section on the impact of the drug war and of general corruption on the Mexican economy has been a longstanding problem.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of section

message: An April 2012 article in The New York Times reported that a former executive of Wal-Mart de Mexico alleged in September 2005 that Wal-Mart de Mexico had paid bribes via local fixers called gestores to officials throughout Mexico in order to obtain construction permits, information, and other favors, that Wal-Mart investigators found credible evidence that Mexican and American laws had been broken, and that Wal-Mart executives in the United States "hushed up" the allegations. Reportedly, envelopes of cash produced dramatic results in a wide variety of situations and with both high and low level Mexican officials and functionaries. Rapidly obtaining construction permits gave Walmart a substantial advantage over its business competitors.Barstow, David. "Vast Mexican Bribery Case Hushed Up by Wal-Mart After High-Level Struggle". The New York Times. April 21, 2012. Retrieved April 22, 2012.
*A corruption scandal regarding Wall-Mart de Mexico is not the most important aspect of Mexican economy. Indeed while the topic of corruption itself is important and should be included in the article, it is also not "the most important aspect of Mexican economy". We should have a section on corruption but it should be based on academic publications on the topic (of which I am sure there are many) and not on a single recentist news story about one particular case. Including it as is is clearly against both WP:RECENTISM and WP:UNDUE. I would be happy to collaborate with you in writing a section about the significance of corruption to the Mexican economy, but it would have to conform to the asic principles of encyclopedic value.
::Here are some sources we should start by consulting: Stephen D. Morris. (2009) Political Corruption in Mexico: The Impact of Democratization.  ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I beg to differ, cash is more important than socks when packing. Now all we have is silence. Neither the Mexican people, visitors, or foreign businessmen have what what they need to know. They might think they can just offer cash without using a gestor as an intermediary. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That said, by all means please add information from those sources. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: With the exception of http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Political_Science/people/documents/ThePoliticalEconomyofNarco-CorruptioninMexico.pdf those sources are both inferior, blaming corruption on the PRI which is long out of power, and behind paywalls. The accessible PDF file, "The Political Economy of Narco-Corruption in Mexico" is 14 years old and concerned with narcotics corruption, not the everyday grind of trying to conduct ordinary business. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They are still immensely more useful than a news report on a single case of corruption. There must be more recent books on Mexcian economy that can be used of course, I'll look for some.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:32, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

text: A source they cite Mexico: Illicit Financial Flows, Macroeconomic Imbalances, and the Underground Economy A January 2012 Report from Global Financial Integrity User:Fred Bauder Talk 09:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Those should be good to work with combined with the OECD and the political corruption stuff.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: More: "COMPARMEX Reveals New Statistics on Corruption" "Gastan empresas 10% de sus ingresos en actos de corrupción: Coparmex" "Sector patronal urge a combatir la corrupción" User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It all looks good. I am sorry for not having worked on this - i am a little tied up elsewhere, ut I am looking forward to coming back and writing this section if you don't beat me to it. The lack of a section on the impact of the drug war and of general corruption on the Mexican economy has been a longstanding problem.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Corruption

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message: The article as of August 6 2016 gives the size of Mexico's labor force as 78 million, but the World Bank web site's listing gives 55.6 million as of 2014: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.TLF.TOTL.IN. I've added a citation needed tag for now. Xelkman (talk) 04:52, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
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message: The poverty section mentions 'food insecurity' at the end of the second paragraph but mentions nothing afterwards. I feel that the inclusion of a section or a redirect to a new page on the issue of food insecurity would be a good addition to this page.
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