Talk:183A Toll Road

message: Although 183A was originally developed as a TTA project (old documentation refers to it as US 183A), after the Texas Legislature authorized the creation of Regional Mobility Authorities, CTRMA was created and took over the project. Although TxDOT & FHWA are definitely involved in terms of oversight, the right of way is owned by the RMA and the road is operated as an RMA project. TxDOT does not consider this an "on-system" road. Think of it like a county-run or city-run or even as a privately run toll road. Deh 00:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  183A's designation 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:183A toll road.png

message: The recent move of this article to Texas State Highway 183A needs to be reverted. This highway is NOT a Texas State Highway. It's a privately funded and built highway, and is not in the same system as the Texas State Highway System. See the discussion above on previous naming issues. Plus the sign being used in the article is wrong. The sign is the blue on yellow background from CTRMA, and it probably copyrighted. 25or6to4 (talk) 19:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no interest in what the article is titled; I only got involved to correct a cut and paste move. – TMF 19:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if the correct marker is copyright, it can still be used as fair-use. Just upload it with a valid Fair-Use Rationale listed for the article. Imzadi 1979 → 19:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If it uses the state highway shield I'd call it State Highway Whatever. The shield is a shorthand for "State Highway X" and it doesn't really matter who maintains it (think of the state-numbered routes that are county- or city-maintained, such as in Vermont, for example). —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I guess I wouldn't be opposed to it moving to 183A Toll Road, but not back to 183A toll road. –Fredddie™ 20:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree with the capitalized version for the naming, similar to other toll roads in the state. The sign takes its design from the standard Texas Toll highway sign, except the background is yellow, instead of white, and has the CTRMA logo in the lower left instead of the Texas flag. There has been a logo uploaded a couple times, but have been deleted. My current alternative thought is to have a separate section on the currently-non-existant US 183 (Texas) page, since this is the "alternate routing" of this highway through Austin. As a heads up for the future, the toll lanes for US 290 in east Austin already have the toll 290 sign on the CTRMA web site map with the state highway signs, but there's already a State Highway 290 in Texas. 25or6to4 (talk) 20:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 25or6to4, it looks like the previous markers were deleted because they weren't tagged right. By all means, created and upload the correct marker (as a PNG)! See the marker on the top of Capitol Loop for how to tag it correctly as fair-use with a FUR. Once that's done completely, it won't get deleted again. Imzadi 1979 → 20:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I got the marker undeleted, updated the FUR. Now once this article is moved to the 183A Toll Road name, it will be correct and the marker won't get deleted again. Imzadi 1979 → 20:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Undo the move

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thread_title:  Dead link