Talk:Laayoune

message: --Language politics! :-) I believe the page name should be changed to El-Aaiun, for the following reasons:
1. "Laâyoune" is another latin script of a transcription of DIALECT Arabic (one of the main by different tradition from the north or hassanic).
2. It is also a FRENCH transcription despite the fact that Western Sahara was never colonized by France. It thus has direct political implications, tying the city to Francophone Morocco, whereas the Spanish transcription  "El-Aaiun" only states -- factually -- that the area has been under Spanish rule.
3. "El-Aaiun" was the name used by the last recognized sovereign (Spain).
4. "El-Aaiun" is significantly closer to any transcription from Arabic (al-aaiun, el-a'yun, el-a'youn, elayun or any variant of these) than "Laâyoune".
With all that said, I don't have a clue as to how to actually change it. Please help.
ARRE.
=== Votes ===
===>I agree Talk to an administrator to move the content of this page to "El Aaiun" and redirect. Justin (koavf) 14:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the fact is, it's commonly known, by locals and visitors alike, as Laayoune, which is therefore the correct title. Not that I really care. zzz (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Move 

message: ===>I agree Talk to an administrator to move the content of this page to "El Aaiun" and redirect. Justin (koavf) 14:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes 

message: I've added the proposed move Laâyoune → El Aaiún to Wikipedia:Requested_moves. Please avoid moving by "copy and paste" 'cos this does not move the history or the talk page. Chanheigeorge 11:20, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: Page moved as requested. Rob Church Talk 22:38, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Outcome

message: Not that I really care, but locals, both immigrants and Sahrawis, pronounce it Laayoune (with an ain). I know this after living there for two years. PiCo 04:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the fact is, it's commonly known, by locals and visitors alike, as Laayoune, which is therefore the correct title. Not that I really care. zzz (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnote

message: Hi, I read your descriptions on the name changes. But I have never heard it by El Aaiun, I've always known the capital of Western Sahara to be Laayoune. Then again that's just me and I've never been or lived in Western Sahara.
Talk</sup> 17:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Variants I've most commonly read "El Aaiun." The Historical Dictionary of Western Sahara  lists it under "El-Ayoun" (which I've never seen in standard literature) with variants "El-Aaiun, El-Aioun, Laayoune." -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it depends of what language you use and that Laâyoune is the French transcription whereas El Aaiún is the Spanish. Since the Moroccan government use French and Spain also has interests in the region, the choice of name/language is politically charged. I guess people who promote Saharan independence tend to use Spanish and people against French. Personally, I cannot see how we possibly could find a solution to this problem as none of the names is NPOV. Aaker (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 22:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: This article says that the population of El Aaiun is 188,084, but according to the source it cites for this information, the most up-to-date population statistics say its population is 194,668, and even in the 2004 census it was 183,691. Jprulestheworld01 (talk) 19:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 188,084 was added in 2006, when it was accurate. I've updated it now. -kotra (talk) 23:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population is wrong 

message: I have reverted again edits that presented Western Sahara as indisputably a Moroccan territory, disregarding Western Sahara's disputed status in nearly all authoritative sources (just as an example, the CIA World Factbook). Let's leave it as saying El Aaiún is managed by Morocco (which is not disputed) and allow people to go to the Western Sahara article for more information on the territorial claims. -kotra (talk) 05:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Sahara's disputed status 

message: Move to Spanish form was executed some months ago by an editor who apparently did not read Talk page, did not discuss and per his talk page, has been blocked for similar edits in the recent past. collounsbury (talk) 14:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Executed return to Laayoune name as per above consensus decision 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: If you have knowledge of Arabic text, you'd realize that the transliterations you restored are wrong. They don't transcribe the Arabic text and very unlikely to be commonly used, at least the first one with the ring sign (ʿ) that I doubt is ever used. If the second transcription should remain, it can't be placed as a transliteration for the Moroccan Arabic text. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 17:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The second should definitely be retained as a name, since it is very common in English, even tho it is a Spanish transliteration. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:31, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong transliteration 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Aioun which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 16:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: I get why it's protected (frustrating but understandable, so I won't dispute its protected status), but what I wanted to add is a note that although it does indeed have a very dry desert climate, its proximity to the ocean allows it to receive significantly more rainfall than the interior of the Sahara, which can sometimes go months without measurable precipitation. Can someone edit that in for me (or if not, explain why). Thanks in advance! 72.72.200.16 (talk) 14:40, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy to add it. Do you have a verifiable source? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:04, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add climate data information request 

message: hi
Laâyoune is not administred but currently occupied by Morocco. 
Un fact the Western Sahara is administred by Spain because of the non-decolonization.
Can someone modify the text please?
Cheers. Alcide69 (talk) 21:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: added to lead. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

text: “Moroccan ownership of Western Sahara is recognized by many nations”. No, it’s not. We have several reliable sources that it is occupied territory, including UN ones. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laâyoune occupied