Talk:Tom Short

message: User Gatorgalen removed my insertion and citation because he claims the reference was "non-RS".  However, the reference cited has been interviewed in newspapers for his research on campus preachers.  Also, the information was a simple statement about a point which Tom Short raises in many campus settings wherein he claims that Hitler and evolutionary theory are related.  Please enlighten me as to how "reliable" this reference probably is:
http://media.www.nineronline.com/media/storage/paper971/news/2007/03/26/News/youre.Going.To.Hell.Says.Campus.Preachers-2790202.shtml
Also, Gatorgalen is obviously biased because he is associated with Tom's Great Commission Association and NLCF skiddum 17:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Morgan blog 

message: Please brainstorm material of interest to include which could better balance PoV. Basically any question you'd have about T.S.  Again, there are many sources. ClaudeReigns 08:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but stirring up controversy is what this guy is famous for. His job is to basically go onto college campuses and make remarks that will rile up the audience, so given that there probably isn't going to be too much positive publicity on him. Xanthius 23:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is.  Iowa State and Colorado State are two examples of schools that consistently give him good press.  The Colorado State University Collegian even had an editorial from just about all its staffers saying what a service to free speech he was.  I'll write it up and source it.  "I do not think that word means what [I thought] it [meant]" obliquely paraprhased from Inigo Montoya.  My bad.  Perhaps someone with more sources could focus on his avid support from within the church. ClaudeReigns 00:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: According to my new understanding of NPoV, it seems a section about TS and law enforcement would not be PoV if worded properly with appropriate attribution.  So shall it be.  ClaudeReigns 07:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The text he is referring to comes from two separate newspaper articles, from two different papers. Here are scanned versions of these articles:  Xanthius 22:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for including those.  At this point what remains is a phone call to Robert Albright to make sure he wasn't misquoted by The Towerlight and some form of assessment of the reliability of The Towerlight at that time.  ClaudeReigns 08:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPoV concerns 

message: How many sources do I need to establish Tom Short's notability?  Did you see the Bootcamp video??  Not appropriate for merging with Great Commission Association or Manic Street Preachers.  :p ClaudeReigns 12:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can I just say? 

message: Start thinking of a good "hook" from this article to submit to WP:DYK, especially if we get an image added to the article...  Yours, Smee 20:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DYK hooks 

message: According to this, Scott Rank has a bias in favor of creationism.  Could that mean the story about Short vs. the communists is merely apocryphal? [  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ClaudeReigns (talk • contribs).
Please point out any attribution weaknesses sofar.  There are many many sources. ClaudeReigns 08:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attribution? 

message: Looking at the article in response to a request by one of the editors, I tried to shorten it into a more effective article, particularly by reducing the duplication from the quotation, footnotes, and narrative.I will also try to see which of the remaining footnotes are necessary, and I think it will be a more effective article. I ask the eds. to sort out which of the somewhat contradictory set of categories at the bottom apply--but I removed some, as in general only the narrowest of a group is necessary. I've come to help, and I've gone, and  please feel free to edit, and revert any and everything I did. It seemed like another voice might help, but nobody owns the article. DGG 01:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: copyedit

message: Tom Short rated two mentions on randi.org  but is this worth mentioning at all?
:He's got a Wikipedia article, so yeah, it might be noteworthy. Xanthius 16:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Amazing Randi

message: What an interesting edit.  It definitely brings up an interesting question, maybe new territory.  Does youtube fit with wikipedia?  It seems to fit the rules regarding public pictures and stuff, since that's what youtube is meant for, only they're moving pictures.  Certainly could help bring many articles to life, so to speak.  Interested to hear others thoughts here. Gatorgalen 05:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Shrug* If the Chick Publications articles can have a link to Chick Tracts, I guess this can have a representational vid.  The only problem I can see is these are promotionally edited, so if another from a third party becomes available, it should be used in favor. Wikipedia isn't a soapbox, but I'll be darned if Tom Short isn't in the soapbox business. ClaudeReigns (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Youtube

message: I thought there was a part of the article that expressed Short's belief that homosexuals could be reformed. I found an article called Ex-gay and wanted to wikilink. Did that get removed? ClaudeReigns (talk) 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody removed it, but it's been reverted. There has been a wave of recent vandalism to this article. Xanthius (talk) 19:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also (as an aside) somehow your picture of him was removed. Unfortunate, and I thought it was a creative commons licensed picture? Xanthius (talk) 19:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Short on homosexuality

message: With [ this edit], an IP user has inserted a paragraph from the Great Commission church movement article. It seems a bit unfair to charge all of that criticism (most of it decades old) to Tom's account. If you agree with me, please consider reverting that edit. (I try to refrain from doing non-trivial edits on this page to avoid WP:COI.) Thanks, SoCalDonF (talk) 21:15, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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message: This entire page is written as promotional propaganda for a controversial subject. Someone who's not an avowed fan of Short should take up a thorough revision, or the page should be deleted.
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