Talk:Kaftan

message: With regard to this edit]: I will go through the content that I deleted and explain why. The content that I added is properly sourced and needs no explanation.
 As well as being irrelevant, this is factually incorrect. See this for more info. In fact, even the khutba (the Friday prayer) was said in the name of the Ottoman Sultan Murad.
 Utter nonsense!. Here's a direct link to the cited source and obviously, there is no mention of any of this nonsense. No surprises there, since the idea that the Ottoman Sultan would accept a caftan from someone is simply unimaginable to anyone who's familiar with what the Caftan meant to the Ottomans.
Here's what the reliable sources say:
:Regarding this edit:
:Can you explain why you're giving prominence of placement to an unknown author who's article is published in a women's magazine and ignoring what the real scholar has to say? M.Bitton (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2020 

message: Leila.andalusi (talk) 21:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 22:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2020 

message: Leila.andalusi (talk) 05:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jack Frost (talk) 06:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, do not delete other people's comments like you did here. Pinging the editors (Jack Frost and Naypta) who responded to your requests as well as the admin (bradv) who semi-protected the page. M.Bitton (talk) 17:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2020 

message: Unfortunately , whoever edited this page is spreading false information about the origins of the Moroccan caftan . I think it should be 
re-edited and changed more accurately .
In Morocco, the caftan is very old and deeply ingrained in the country's clothing habits. Indeed it appeared in the 13th century during the Merinid dynasty , when it was worn by Moroccan royalty. 
Chibt (talk) 13:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  non accurate 

message: In Morocco the Kaftan dates back to the 13 century during the Marinid Sultanate. At that time even though Ottoman empire didn't occupied Morocco but the Marini sultane send to them gifts encluding the moroccan Kaftan. 41.250.244.218 (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 05:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 9 June 2020 

message: With regard to this edit (in response to today's change):
* I restored the sourced content that was removed here.
*  This is about textile with no mention of the Kaftan (taken from an unreliable source to boot), therefore irrelevant.
*  This is WP:SYNTH:
*: a) The first part is misleading at best (Abd al-Malik entered present-day Morocco with an Ottoman army and the khutba was said in the name of the Ottoman Sultan).
*: b) The second part is a case of sourced misrepresentation: There no mention of gifts on page 26. Even if it did, it would still be irrelevant unless it mentions the primary topic.
*  Luckily, the highly unreliable source does not even say that, because the idea that the Ottomans would accept Kaftans from anyone is simply laughable. M.Bitton (talk) 14:28, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Kaftan is originally from Persia and spread far and wide by the Islamic caliphate of the Abbasids. I did recheck the source and it does mention them introducing it to the Barbary states, but the source in question is decades old and since the Abbasids spread the Kaftan far and wide in the Arab world, it is probably them who introduced it into North Africa. I will look more into the Moroccan Kaftan. I copied that edit from the Moroccan Kaftan page in good faith. Also why is it laughable. Do you think Ottomans created the Kaftan? --Ozan33Ankara (talk) 19:32, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  August 2020 

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