Talk:Ave Maria, Florida

message: I can access the talk page and the history but not the actual article. Does someone know the reason for that? --129.13.186.1 14:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem seeing the page 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: It would probably be helpful to have the zip code listed...  The.helping.people.tick (talk) 05:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  zip code? 

message: Much of the information, including the location image, the coordinates, and the dates are correct for the city of Naples, FL. I will be clearing such information.--Abusing (talk) 19:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I want to make it clear that Ave Maria is not a part of Naples, FL and should not be labled so. This is completely false information.--Abusing (talk) 19:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clearing some information 

message: This article should not be listed under "Christian communities". It should be listed under "cults".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.147.95 (talk) 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Christian communities"? 

message: Binksternet has deleted links claiming that doing so is required to comply with the following policies, but the two links in question do not violate these policies:  
* WP:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline#External_links ("Providing links to every commercial, educational, or other entity within the city is not appropriate for this section.") and 
* WP:ELOFFICIAL ("An official link is a link to a website or other Internet service that meets both of the following: 1. The linked content is controlled by the subject (organization or individual person) of the Wikipedia article; 2. The linked content primarily covers the area for which the subject of the article is notable.")
In this case, the commercial developer's link is appropriate for the same reasons the link to AveHerald.com and AveMariaLiving.com/dozens-of-ave-maria-links are appropriate, but the developer is NOT a governmental entity and does not control the town, which is far more broadly defined than the commercial developer (the town has thousands of residents and a thousand more people who work in town or study at the university), so the developer's website is NOT official and would not comply with the narrow rules Binksternet would like to impose for external links in this article. 
It seems the policies more on point are:
* WP:ELOFFICIAL#Links_to_be_considered ("Links to be considered: A well-chosen link to a directory of websites or organizations.") and 
* WP:NOTLINK#Wikipedia_is_not_a_mirror_or_a_repository_of_links.2C_images.2C_or_media_files ("There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.")
These policies together anticipate as appropriate the links to the town's e-newspaper (AveHerald.com) and a site of over 100 links related to the town (AveMariaLiving.com) and the commercial developer (AveMaria.com), all of which provide a service to the town, to visitors and to those wishing to learn about the town. 
74.5.191.140 (talk) 06:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The only official government site for Ave Maria is AveMariaDistrict.com.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.82.64.144 (talk) 15:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I just replaced the various odd links with the Ave Maria Stewardship Community District official website, as you recommend. All the other ones were too much for the U.S. City guideline which says we should add links to the "official city government, or the convention and visitors bureau. Providing links to every commercial, educational, or other entity within the city is not appropriate for this section. Information about such entities should actually be written into the article, with links to Wikipedia articles on notable entities. Remember, Wikipedia is not a linkfarm, and excessive lists of links on articles will generally be removed." I am in favor of text being added to the article describing any of the groups formerly linked in external links, such as the Ave Maria Development Company, The Ave Herald, AveMariaLiving.com, the Oratory Parish and the Annunciation of Ave Maria (a sculpture). If any of these things can be described by WP:Secondary sources then they can be added. Binksternet (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

text: It is rather hyperbolic to assume that all public figures are controversial. Tom Monaghan was controversial in creating Ave Maria, Florida, which is what this article is about. His controversial qualities are discussed in the article body as part of the topic, and this information is suitably summarized in the lead section. The word "controversial" is valid as a summary, per WP:LEAD. Binksternet (talk) 23:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I'm wondering what the form of government is here?  Why is this labelled by Wikipedia as a "Catholic Community" but the article says it's a planned college town?  I've heard some disturbing things about this town including the foibles of the "owners" (?) and his beliefs, lawsuits regarding relocation of employees, etc.  I'm willing to work on it a bit, but a little confused why no info appears here already as what is being said is quite controversial. al (talk) 00:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who or what governs this town? 

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message: Shouldn't there be a section on controversies? After all, the whole concept of this town (given this is a real town and not some fenced in private property of a cult) violates several parts of the US constitution (mainly free speech and religious freedom). And lets be honest, how would America react if there was a similar community of muslim faith?  60.40.183.246 (talk) 15:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No there shouldn't unless there are reliable sources saying so. And for the second part of your question see Islamberg, New York. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies 

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message: I am planning on removing the routine coverage warning since significant edits have happened over the last month. Posting here in case there are differing views. Bigdig23 (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove routine coverage warning?