Talk:Macaroni

message: :In the United States and Canada, the name macaroni is customarily given to a specific shape of pasta: small pasta tubes cut into short pieces.  
Only in the US and Canada?  My experience tells me this is the case in the UK, for example, too.  It's often sold branded as such, often under different trade names than are other, more self-consciously Italianified brands are.  (Though the term "elbow macaroni" isn't widely used.)  Is this an "English speaking world in general" phenom?  Alai 23:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In the US and UK, this pasta is usually prepared by baking it with cheddar cheese or American cheese; the resulting dish is called macaroni and cheese (or macaroni cheese in Britain).
I'm struck in this case by the sudden omission of Canada, it having been previously mentioned:  is this purposeful, or just one of those accidents of successive editing?  Alai 23:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crucial commonwealth macaroni distinctions? 

message: What kind of person, in the slang vernacular, is a "Macaroni"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 8.10.176.114 (talk) 22:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't appropriate for the article talk page. Please ask at the language reference desk and I'll reply there :-) (At least I know the answer for Neapolitan, which is my dialect) —Gennaro Prota•Talk 18:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macaroni 

message: I was curious how the hollow shape gets made - this article could maybe have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Elbow_macaroni_die_front.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Elbow_macaroni_die_back.jpg on it somewhere?
Jaddle (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  pasta maker photos 

message: I disagree that "Kraft Dinner" is Canadian for "Macaroni and Cheese". To me, "Kraft Dinner" refers to the specific product made by Kraft and is not a generic name for the dish. Gmarsden (talk) 04:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kraft Dinner 

message: The article Elbow macaroni should probably be redirected to Macaroni, and merged if any of the information can be verified. —Snigbrook 14:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Elbow macaroni]] 

message: Macaroni most likely comes from Arabic maqruna=juncted.
Humanbyrace (talk) 15:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic etymology. 

message: In the England of my youth at least.....
# Macaroni was mostly known as a milk pudding - along the lines of rice pudding, sago pudding, tapioca etc - still many references on Google eg http://recipes.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Macaroni_Pudding_Recipe
# Macaroni was often (normally?) a long pasta (ie like spaghettic, but tubes). Another reference for this style of macaroni can be found here http://www.bocuse.fr/recettes/resultatrecherche_us.asp?tri=m or on Page 71 of Paul Bocuse's Regional French Cooking  (BTW this is, in my view, the best Macaroni Cheese recipe - it does, however, use Beaufort cheeses and a truffle!) 122.107.58.27 (talk) 01:29, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a really questionable claim about macaroni pudding being "still the most common form of macaroni use" in the UK. Could probably just snip that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.167.157 (talk) 00:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Macaroni in England

message: I felt that this article didn't give any deep encyclopedic information about macaroni, only an etymology and basic ingredients (and hardly that.) In a way, the article could be stub worthy since information is repeated (such as the lack of eggs, which is typical for pasta anyway, with the exception of egg noodle type noodles)
I'd like to see more information on the actual process of creating macaroni and even some more detailed history - I'll research it myself and if I can, post what I find out, but I still find it silly that this article is only a few paragraphs.
ThymeCypher 16:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marked Incomplete 

message: If anyone here speaks Italian and English, http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccheroni hosts a notable more amount of information. 
ThymeCypher 16:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian Wikipedia page is better 

message: This article is poorly presented although apparently well researched with 13 references.
1) The first paragraph says that "macaroni" refers to the type of dough used which is durum wheat.  But almost all pasta is made from durum wheat (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasta), so "macaroni" doesn't differentiate this pasta from any other pasta if shape is not considered.  From this article one would deduce that rigatoni, fusilli and almost all other pasta are "macaroni" since almost all are made from durum wheat.
2) The shape DOES appear to differentiate "macaroni" from other pasta since the article speaks of "elbow macaroni" but doesn't mention any other shape for macaroni, even though paragraph 3 says it does not necessarily have an elbow shape.  From this article one would deduce that _all_ pasta shapes are encompassed by the term "macaroni".
3) Paragraph 2 says macaroni comes from the term for "a kind of barley broth which was served to commemorate the dead" but doesn't address why macaroni is made from wheat rather than barley or how macaroni relates to death rituals, and does not address why academics feel the Greek barley-dead link is better than the Latin (->Italian, ->English) or Arabic possibilities.
4) The Italian Wikipedia link given in the 10 July 2011 post above (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccheroni) is a much better article; I used http://translate.google.com/ to read it.
- Peter, Los Angeles, 2011dec07, IP 71.106.222.207
:Added G. Alessio's etymology from the Italian article. Macedonian (talk) 07:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too superficial; how to translate the better Italian Wikipedia page 

message: Quoting article: "Macaroni is a variety of moderately extended, dry pasta made with durum wheat."
What does "moderately extended" meant here?  Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "moderately extended" 

message: I feel that the statement "a kind of barley broth which was served to commemorate the dead,[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]" has perhaps too many references? What do you guys think? Bananasoldier (talk) 06:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive references? 

message: While макаронные изделия (lit. macaroni products) is a collective term in Russian for most (all?) pasta products, there are other names for specific products: лапша (flat noodles), вермишель (thin, round noodles), рожки (elbow macaroni), etc. This is detailed on the 
Russian version of the page.
SwiftSurge (talk) 14:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect statement about Russian terminology 

message: The term macaroni as used by Italian Americans refers to any shape of pasta made without eggs. See this link
http://www.food.com/about/macaroni-158
You find this also in the book "Sunday Sauce" and regularly in episodes of "the Sopranos" such as when in season 4 Ralph is cooking spaghetti and announces "the macaroni is ready" So this article is misleading PointOfPresence (talk) 17:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's probably true for Italian-Americans, not for Italians. You'll never hear anybody call spaghetti macaroni here in Italy, it would sound very odd because they're clearly different from each other. If you're searching for a word that summarizes both macaroni and spaghetti, it's just pasta: for example, if you're cooking spaghetti you'll just announce "la pasta è pronta" ("pasta is ready").--Teno85 (talk) 03:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Much the same in British English, apart from not usually saying "la pasta è pronta" of course. Bazza (talk) 12:24, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macaroni is not a specific shape 

message: Or change the title to “Macaroni (pasta)”. Some people refer to Macaroni and Cheese as simply “Macaroni”. Adding something like that would help prevent confusion among some readers. GenZenny (talk) 01:36, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe add something like “This article is about the pasta. For the dish, see Macaroni and Cheese.”??