Talk:Flag of Nashville, Tennessee

message: Yes, the seal should be in color. I have not been able to find a color graphic of the seal anywhere on the internet though (at least not a good quality one). If anyone can find a good color version of the seal, I would be happy to redo the flag graphic with the correct seal. Attempts to get a usable graphic of the flag directly from Metro Nashville government have been fruitless. They did, however, supply me with the seal graphic used in the current flag image (which I changed from black and white to gold and blue). Kaldari 02:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a drawing of the flag currently used in the city now, I could try to scan it so we can probably use it. I am going to ask permission first from Mr. Cannon, first, unless I can find a color seal. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seal colors

message: There seems to be disagreement over whether or not the fly includes a small white band similar to the state flag. Every actual Nashville flag I have seen includes the white band, although I don't know what the official legal description of the flag specifies. Kaldari 18:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source I used to draw the flag was the book "American City Flags - 150 Flags from Akron to Yonkers" by NAVA (authors Prucell and Croft and Monahan). On page 229, the page gives the legal description of the Nashville flag (de jure). The de jure version, adopted in 1963, indicates no white bar at the fly, and the seal is in only three colors. However, the de facto version that is used in Nashville is what Kaldari points out. The de facto version does have the white band, and the seal has more color to it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, my library system does not have this book. Could you please quote the legal description of the flag given in the book? Ironically, NAVA's website uses a graphic of the flag of Nashville that I created for Wikipedia back in November 2004 (Nashvilleflag.jpg, which no longer exists since I deleted it after creating the newer PNG version). My old graphic (which is perhaps what is used in NAVA's book as well) did not include the white border. The book Flags of Tennessee, BTW, depicts the flag with a white and gold fly and a full color seal (although it's not a very good quality graphic). Regardless, whether or not the legal definition includes the white border, the white border is present in every version of the flag I have ever seen (excluding the aforemention graphic that I made myself). The border is also present in the state flag that Nashville's flag is based on, as well as the flags of Knoxville, Chattanooga, Manchester, and Jackson, Tennessee (which are also based on the Tennessee state flag). For that reason I am inclined to restore the white border unless you know of a good reason not to. Kaldari 23:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead, but make note that it is the de facto version and I will be happy. And, I will explain the situation in the article, using the above source I put down. I also own Mr. Cannon's book (I bought it last year in Jackson, TN), so I know what you mean about the graphic in the book. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. BTW, I am also interested in finding out what the actual colors of the flag are supposed to be (other than just "blue" and "gold"). So far I have simply approximated them. What we really need to do is find out who's in charge of making the city's flags and see if they have a graphic. I imagine the legal definition is pretty vague on everything (being written by politicians rather than vexillologists). Kaldari 00:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Believe me, I know how you feel. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fly colors

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