Talk:Governorate (Russia)

message: What is the proper plural form of Governorate General?  Is it Governorates General?  Governorate Generals?  Governorates Generals?--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 17:32, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
"Governorates General". It is French-style naming, "general" being an adjective. BTW it needs to be clarified how the notions  "gubernator" and "general-gubernator" (and "guberniya" and "general-gubernatorstvo") were related." Mikkalai 19:07, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: The usual English term is in fact "Governor-Generalship", and in the Russian Empire at least it is not the same thing as a Губерния. A Guberniya is a province (normally known as an Oblast in the outlying regions of the Empire), and a Governor-General had authority over several provinces. In Turkestan, for instance, The Governor General had authority over the Syr-Darya, Ferghana, Samarkand and Transcaspian provinces. Sikandarji 14:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: With the English term may be right, but as to the rest you a right only partially. You probably didn't read the article carefully how the meaning of the term Governor General changed over the history. Mikkalai 19:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Fair Enough - although I had always thought that as military rulers they were in some ways the successors of the pre-Petrine Voevody. Try not to use 'Governorate General' though as it looks abominable in English.Sikandarji 08:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Governorate-General

message: Lest you still have doubts, a google books search shows that the terms "governorate" and "governorate general" are valid.  "Governorship" is also used, although a good portion of the hits refers to the post of the Governor, not the administrative unit.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: For reference

message: For those interested, this rather large (over 9 MB) map nicely depicts the Russian Empire's subdivisions in European Russia. Olessi (talk) 03:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: Most of the individual pages of each governorate are very terrible as the are basically tiny, unsourced stubs (e.g: Astrakhan Governorate ). If someone could please improve them or at least have suggestions for improvement?. Gott Erhalte Kaiser Franz (talk) 01:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I looked at several of them and they contain a ref to "Russian Gazetter" not formatted as a footnote. So here is a suggestion: Make the Gazetteer into a footnote. It does contain some extra info, but it may be user carefully: Information must be with in-text reference, e.g. "The 1919 Russian Gazetteer says that...." Also, "Astrakhan Governorate " cha a hatnote  - a good suggestion. YOu may ensure  other governorate ministubs have it. Lembit Staan (talk) 02:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Would help if you would be more specific Gott Erhalte Kaiser Franz (talk) 05:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Improvement of these articles is in my workflow, see Siberia Governorate or Pskov Governorate as examples.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

text: , care to fix the referencing problem with Astrakhan Governorate ? Lembit Staan (talk) 16:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will have a look. Russian Wikipedia indeed has serious issues with sources, we should discourage direct translations.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: We have a template-generated red link for Autonomous governorate. Cleary identifiable concept? Worth of standalone article? Estopedist1 (talk) 08:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autonomous governorate?