Talk:Narcissus (mythology)

message: The first myth presented sounds suspiciously like the story of Psyche and Eros. Is someone here confusing them or was there really the confusion in Greece, too?--BlackGriffen
:I agree, and I've never heard any indication of confusion from any other source. Here's a link to the Psyche Eros myth:
:http://www.loggia.com/myth/psyche.html
:and here's one to Narcissus:
:http://www.loggia.com/myth/echo.html  These seem to be consistent over all of the web sites I've checked. As "source material", the legend of Psyche and Eros is present inside Apuleius' The Golden Ass. -BD
I moved the legend over to Psyche -firepink
The flower paragraph? doesnt that belong on the Narcissus page rather that Narcissus (mythology)?
Jwestbrook 19:39, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, and will do so promptly. —Nightstallion (?) 12:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: It seems fairly odd to me that there is no mention of narcissism in the context of freudian theory in this article. Its a major psychoanalytic theory that has influenced contemporary thinking for the last century. Would anyone like to have a go at adding this? --81.157.78.181 04:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freud & Narcissism 

message: This, a more archaic version than the one related by Ovid in his Metamorphoses, is a moral tale in which the proud and unfeeling Narcissus is punished by the gods for having spurned all his male suitors.
In this story, Ameinias, a young man, loved Narcissus but was scorned. To tell Ameinias off, Narcissus gave him a sword as a present. Ameinias used the sword to kill himself on Narcissus' doorstep and prayed to Nemesis that Narcissus would one day know the pain of unrequited love.
Are these two sentences meant to promote homosexuality? Because I find them rather disturbing.
i got scammed 00:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Read up on Ancient Greece; they had rather different views on the subject. Personally I find it  rather disturbing that you are so easily disturbed. Someone removed that part of the article, but I don't see why, so I put it back in, with additional sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Berry2K (talk • contribs) 23:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hmm... 

message: In the "Ovid's Version" section, right after it says "As a result, Narcissus" the words "is a hotty" appear in the article. When I tried to edit that out, the phrase did not show up in the editor. It's still there after refreshing the page. What gives? 68.156.227.159 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A hotty?

message: The statement about the origin of the word "narcotic" is not precisely accurate. The relation is only indirect at best. The exact origin of "narcotic" is based on the english use of the root "narc-" which means pertaining to sleep. Therefore "narcotic" is simply a drug that induces sleep. This is also where we get "narcolepsy" from. Now it may be that we got "narc-" from the same greek word, in which case the statement is not necessarily incorrect - so I didn't remove it - but I just thought I'd point this out anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.243.73.47 (talk) 04:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Word Origins

message: Shouldn't anything about the myth with Echo be included here. This is thought to be the original version.  Sodaplayer  talk contrib ^_^ 04:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Echo 

message: The paragraphs on this page refer to the story, but none of them tell the story. It's brief enough, someone get it. (I'm at work now, can't.)
Thnidu 21:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  so where's the story? 

message: Somebody removed the entire Archaic Version section. Vandalism? They didn't leave any notices or anything, and didn't ask in talk section, so that's what it looks like, but... seems like it's not destructive enough to be vandalism.
Second opinions? Eriryoutan (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone's removed a section without giving reasons or entering into discussion, then you have every right to restore it. If they had a valid (non-vandalistic) reason, then they can explain here after you restore. See WP:BRD. Algebraist 02:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Vandalsim? 

message: The part about Echo (mythology) was written horribly improper, the version in the Echo article is much more appropriate, so I'm copying it over. I take it, by the process of elimination unless its a fourth made up one that Echo comes from Ovid's Metamorphis?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 12:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: There is an interesting parallel or offshoot of the Narcissus legend in Jewish tradition. The 3rd century BCE sage, R. Simeon the Just, tells the story of a young man who came to him to terminate his state of being a Nazirite -- i.e., to ritually remove his luxuriant growth of uncut hair -- becase one day, while shepherding his father's flock, he looked into a spring and, upon seeing the beauty of his own reflection, was overcome by "thoughts prompted by the Evil Urge that would take me out of the world."  But here, unlike the Greek version, the story ends with the hero's repentance abd return to a more normative, "centered" way of life.  See Tosefta Nazir 4.7 and Talmud Bavli, Nedarim 9b. 
JC  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.69.136.191 (talk) 09:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narcissus - Jewish tradition 

message: This article needs some serious editing.  There are spelling and punctuation errors in just the first couple of sentences.
--Lindy (talk) 02:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits Please 

message: Agreeing with last comment: the first section is so awful that it's incomprehensible. Please, someone who knows, fix this!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahanna80 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Months of accumulated crud. Resolved now. Haiduc (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's up? 

message: can somebody put this pic instead of the one thats being used? the current picture portrays a modern european boy from like the 1600s. use something that looks more like narcissus would have looked before like this picture http://www.penwith.co.uk/artofeurope/waterhouse_echo_narcissus.jpg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.48.113.14 (talk) 17:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: In the Hellenic Version section, someone wrote about a modern interpretation of the myth, saying that because the ancient Greeks didn't have widespread use of polished surface mirrors, that he wouldn't have had the proper neural connections to recognize his reflection as a reflection of himself.
Besides not having any citations for this claim, it goes against the frequently used "mirror recognition test" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test) where animals who have not been traditionally exposed to mirrors are able to recognize themselves, which means cultural habituation is not necessary to understand reflections.
Lloydel (talk) 23:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neuropsychology in the article 

message: Did he really write a song called License to Kill? I'm pretty skeptical of that, and I couldn't find any mention of it in his article.  Sheavsey33 (talk) 10:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob Dylan - Licensed to Kill? 

message: Until someone can provide a quote, or cite a reference, the claim that Narcissus appears in the writings of Dostoevsky seems unsupported.  The mere suggestion that some "lonely Narcissus-type characters" appeared in some of Dostoevsky's writings is insufficient.zadignose (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Dostoevsky reference 

message: I'm not an encyclopedist, but the reference to 'one million versions' seems like false precision at best and exaggeration at the worst.  Has someone counted all of them?  If so, shouldn't there be a reference to back it up?  Changing the term to 'Many versions' instead.
208.54.35.190 (talk) 16:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think that was just a bit of mischief that had gone overlooked. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  One million? 

message: According to the article, it was Nemesis who took revenge out on Narcissus' pride. However, in the version that I read, it was Aphrodite who meted out the punishment on him, for spurning Echo. What he did was an insult to love, hence, enraging Aphrodite.--Splashen (talk) 02:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Aphrodite

message: The story of NARKISSOS -- the way I learned it - had various, minor differences, BUT has always been about a young, GOOD LOOKING man who is put into position of HOMOSEXUALITY and self-loving instead of loving the FEMALE NYMPH ECHO!   And HOMOSEXUALITY  is the ULTIMATE NARKISISM!
In my youth, the term NARKISSIST was a reference to a HOMOSEXUAL in addition to someone who loved themselves!  
And I use "K" and not "C" -- because if the source is the Greek == Νάρκισσος == than the NARSISSIM pronunciation is WRONG -- brought upon us by some cad who could not read GREEK!
Does not it make sense to ANYBODY that NARKISSISM is the right pronunciation?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al.Qudsi (talk • contribs) 04:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek: Νάρκισσος, Narkissos 

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message: So basically this guy fell in love with himself. 88.107.92.71 (talk) 23:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  noideawhatsgoingon like at all