Talk:Super Girl (TV series)

message: why is this Super Girl and not Super Fem Voice? --1698 16:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: *New York Times - The Chinese Get the Vote, if Only for 'Super Girl'
*The Economist - Democracy Idol
*Links to articles on how this affects the plausibility of democracy in China Read your hearts out. Pandacomics 22:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the help. I've actually been collecting links and haven't had the time to write the entire section up. Arsonal 00:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  super girl's other cultural impact: instituting a pseudo-democracy in china 

message: I don't know where to put this, so I'll include it here:
*Refers to Linktone's agreement with Hunan TV for 2005, and described 20 mil votes being sent across Linktone phones.
*Number of calls going through Linktone at peak hours, as well as a quote saying that Super Girl was no goldmine.
*Super Girl economics (not the actual blog, but the links at the bottom, all in Chinese.
*Linktone lost profits in 2006, mostly due to the emergence of Super Boy. Their deal with HNTV only lasted from 2005-2006.
Pandacomics 05:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SMS agreement 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Cover-limitedA.jpg

message: Hello! Referring to the "22:49, 29 April 2008" edition of the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Girl_%28contest%29&oldid=209004488): I have removed the material concerning the ban. The only source cited is from the University of Cambridge's "News and Events" section about the event of footage being shown at the university. I do not think that is a reliable source of news. Source #1 and source #11 are the same, that is, the one from the University of Cambridge's "News and Events" section (http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/dp/2007070501). Source #3 is a .doc file (http://www.hk-dk.dk/docs/chinainvest.2006.05.30.doc). Source #2 only deals with an official's statement claiming that he was against the show and that it should be stopped (http://www.danwei.org/trends_and_buzz/cppcc_exterminate_the_super_girls.php).
As from what I understand, the Hunan Satellite Television station replaced "Super Voice Girls" (:zh:超级女声) by the programme "Cheerful Voice Boys" (:zh:快乐男声)*my own translation, in the 2007 broadcasting season. It wasn't banned by the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television. The "Cheerful Voice Boys" (:zh:快乐男声) programme began a tour around the country late 2007 to early 2008. After the earthquake and the following hosting of the Olympics, it seems unlikely that a season will be produced for 2008. The closest thing I've read about a "ban", is the limiting of participating contestants' to above 18 years of age. Here is a link to the official Xinhua new site (http://news.xinhuanet.com/newmedia/2006-03/14/content_4303485.htm).
If someone decides to place the material about the ban back, please cite an alternate and more reliable source. Thanks!  --Shibo77 (talk) 23:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The ban is on the show, not the girls.  Here is a Time Magazine link on the ban.  The girls are still on shows in mainland China like "music king". Most recently after the sichuan earthquake (just a week ago) they showed He jie and Li Yuchun donating blood. So is not like they are blocked from going on the air.  They have massive fame. The government is trying to minimize it. Benjwong (talk) 03:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I read about that regulation also, looking at the date of "Monday, Mar. 27, 2006" I believe the TIME report is referring to 《关于进一步加强广播电视播出机构参与、主办或播出全国性或跨省（区、市）赛事等活动管理的通知》 which was published by the SARFT on Mar. 12, 2006. However I didn't find such a statement in Chinese: "constructing a harmonious socialist society". The regulation would limit the style of such shows as the "Super Voice Girls", but it isn't a ban or a cancellation, in other words if the show will have participants only above 18 years of age, and to be shown on another channel on the national level, it could continue to be produced. Even after the new regulations, Hunan TV came out with "Cheerful Voice Boys" (:zh:快乐男声), which was basically the resurrected version of the original Hunan TV's 2004 idea of a parallel boy's version (a 超级男声 in addition to 超级女声). But it was limited to choosing one per season by either the SARFT or another regulatory agency (I don't recall). Hunan TV chose 超级女声 for 2004, 2005 and 2006, while choosing 快乐男声 for 2007 and 2008. As for 2008, the fate of 快乐男声 is uncertain after the earthquake and subsequent government's focus on the hosting of the Olympics. After 2007, the national CCTV-Business is producing the :zh:非常6+1 programme. As far as I can tell from that TIME article, it only stated "These restrictions may or may not prevent Super Girl from securing permission to air, but they're certain to cramp the show's style", not an outright ban on 超级女声 and similar shows. Stating it as such without a reliable source would be original research. Thanks! --Shibo77 (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Is not a "hard" ban.  Is more like a "replacement" ban. Where the government jumps in before you get too hot. Take for example Hong Kong's ATV.  Once the mainland ownership took control, everything became watered-down. Interesting shows were replaced with less interesting ones. No normal capitalist money-run tv station take their highest-rated show off the air during their peak. Benjwong (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: On the Ban

message: The caption says left to right however, isn't Li Xiang on the right in the pink dress and Wang Han is on the left in the white jacket, thus it is captioned back to front? Rincewind42 (talk) 07:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: “Left to right" means from the left side of the picture to the right side of the picture, from the perspective of the viewer of the picture (or the photographer.)  Not from the perspective of the people being photographed.Bucknastay (talk) 01:53, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's exactly my point. I don't know these people well enough to be certain, but the caption is incorrectly ordered. Rincewind42 (talk) 04:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left to right or right to left 

message: "Viewers called in to vote for their favourite singers, and the weakest two—as voted by the judges and the audience's weekly SMS— faced-off subsequently in a PK, short for Player Kill. The term is derived from kill-or-be-killed multiplayer online games.[7] The singer with the least number of votes was then eliminated."  It seems to me that in China the term PK is used anytime there is a one on one contest to decide the outcome of an event.  Which seems more like to come from Penalty Kicks in football（soccer）then from online videogames, also it seems like the source cited is questionable. Bucknastay (talk) 01:56, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  (PK) Player Kill or Penalty Kick?