Talk:Osteopathy

message: To allow this article to remain, with the first statement describing osteopathy as a 'pseudoscience', is unjustified and damaging to a recognised and valuable profession, and to the patients we support. Please see the following links
https://www.england.nhs.uk/ahp/role/
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/osteopathy/ 88.202.147.91 (talk) 18:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Talk:Osteopathy/Archive 4#Merge with Osteopathic medicine. Osteopathy and Osteopathic medicine are two different things. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Osteopathy is regulated in the UK (where there is no DO). NICE recommend it for manual therapy, but all the other more woo-y stuff is unsupported. Bon courage (talk) 18:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Osteopathy is a recognised by the NHS as an Allied Health Profession in the UK 

message: Study showed:
Decreased length of stay in the hospital of approximately 1 day
Decreased duration of IV ABx
Decreased tachypneic resp rate
Decreased incidence of respiratory failure
Decreased incidence of death
Please include this in the efficacy area. 66.252.200.62 (talk) 14:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like primary research, so not WP:MEDRS. Bon courage (talk) 14:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi-Center Osteopathic Pneumonia Study in the Elderly - MOPSE  

message: it says it's not government regulated, then it says you need to register in private schools. If it's not regulated, you don't need any education, and could just teach yourself or make it up as you go... 64.110.254.75 (talk) 20:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada 

message: Died of breast cancer, recently.  And I learned she spent her time seeing an Osteopath, and the Article doesn't have prominently displayed something like REQUIRED EDUCATION.  How much education does it take for some random quack to call himself "doctor"?  A two-year degree?  A course by mail from a matchbook cover?  A certificate from some university in Belize?  What's the difference in education between a medical doctor and this form of quack?2603:8081:3A00:30DF:FD49:B5B5:CF6D:BC59 (talk) 02:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:NOTAFORUM, I changed the section header, from "Quack Medicine and a Dead Friend". The issue of more content on education requirements is a reasonable one, so I wanted to leave that here. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

text: This is the wrong article. Here are the proper articles: Osteopathic medicine in the United States and Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: But I wonder whether it would be useful here to have anything more about the lack of training requirements? --Tryptofish (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  The "criticism" section deals with some of the problems. The issue is when certain methods are used for conditions where modern medicine is more appropriate. For example, OMT / HVLA manipulation is not an appropriate treatment for allergies and asthma. It may have some limited legitimacy for certain musculoskeletal complaints of a purely mechanical nature. Note that "limited"!! Modern DOs recognize this, and that's why very few of them continue to use OMT at all. They have learned of its limitations and the superior results from modern medicine. Some osteopaths still "over" depend on OMT, and we rightly call them quacks. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 00:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Training requirements