Talk:Sangguniang Kabataan

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I am concerned with the way the Sangguniang Kabataan article is being given more importance rather than the Katipunan ng Kabataan.
Writers seemed not to understand the basic provisions in the Local Government Code of 1991 which is the source law on the creation of the Katipunan ng Kabataan - as a nationwide government sponsored mainstream youth organization. The Sangguniang Kabataan is only a creation out of the existence of the Katipunan ng Kabataan. And because the Sangguniang Kabataan or SK is well-publisized rather than the KK, people tend to understand that it is only the SK that exist.
Added here, is the lack of articles on historical connection between the SK and KB or the Kabataang Barangay. My articles on Katipunan ng Kabataan and the Kabataang Barangay had been deleted. Researchers then would be content with article on Sangguniang Kabataan which very limited in scope.
Truthfully, the change of Katipunan ng Kabataan from Kabataang Barangay is purely political in nature. When President Aquino assumed the presidency, almost all Marcos-created things would be changed. Senator Pimentel, a staunch Aquino ally, who authored the Local Government Code, would likewise change the name of the organization from Kabataang Barangay to Katipunan ng Kabataan.
Thus, all last term elected KB officials would then become the transition SK officials, although the first election for KK officials was held only in 1992 -  a year after the Local Governmetn Code of 1991 took effect. The last KB election was held before the 1986 EDSA Revolution. Since KB election were not mandatorily simultaneous unlike the present election for SK officials of the KK, it happened that in some parts of Manila and elsewhere in the Philippines, election for KB officials took place even after the EDSA Revolution.
Next thing is, what most writers don't seem to understand is that, Sangguniang Kabataan is born out of the Katipunan ng Kabataan. Sangguniang Kabataan is supposed to refer to the elected officers of the  Katipunan ng Kabataan. SK in short is set of officers not an organization. KK is the organization. SK is federated but KK is not. After every election, the youth seem to forget the existence of the KK because the members themselves become inactive. Who are left to do things are the SK officials, hence they become popular than the KK. KK members only rises when there is KK Assembly which is mandatory under the law. The SK officials are mandated to hold assembly on members of the Katipunan ng Kabataan to report to them what they have accomplished and where their budget have gone. After this assembly, except in some chapters, members forget everything.
Last thing is that Sangguniang Kabataan officials are federated at different levels. But on every level of each federation, only the Chairman, in the case of the Barangay chapter, or the president, in the case of cities and municipalities, represent their chapter in the next level federation. For instance, at the barangay level, all Chairmen of each barangay elect their federation president of their city or municipality. Next, their city (only component city) or municipal president represent the federation to elect their provincial president. At the national level, provincial presidents, president of HUCs  and independent component cities elect the national federation president.
In all these federation elections, Katipunan ng Kabataan members have no involvement! That is why they become unknown personalities. The media only talks about the SK.
This is what I intend to correct! 
Researchers and writers have limited information on the matter because even the Wikipedia is mislead by some writers on the topic. I'm trying write as much as I can to give the right information to those interested on subject because the Katipunan ng Kabataan I believe is unique only to the Philippine political system. It's an innovation in our system of governance where the youths have direct and active participation in governance at all levels whether in the legislatures or in the executive department. 
This policy started during Marcos era in order to counter the massive recruitment by the Left on youths in the countryside. 
Marletbadeo 05:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: The article seems to have been looking towards its own points, the article was written unencyclopedic, perhaps reviewer is needed to remove needless points especially that it all discuss point of view.--JL 09Talk to me! 16:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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message: The are  some data  reflected in the  Wikipedia   of  SK  that   needs  to  be  updated,  for  instance,  the  members  of the Katipunan  ng mga  Kabataan   is  composed  of  15-21 years  of  age and  not  15-18,  while the age  qualification  for  SK  officials ranges  from  15-17 years  old.  
There  is  now  pending  in the Lower  House, the Committee on  Local  Government, chaired  by  Congressman  George  Arnaiz  two  proposed House  bills:  the  SK  Reform BILL   and  the  SK  Abolition bill. The  proponents  of  the  Sk  Reform bill wanted  the  retention  of the  SK  at  the barangays with  more  significant  role  in  nation  building.    The  age  qualification for  SK  Officials   raised  from 18-24 years old. The  rationale  behind  the  increase  of  age  qualification is  to  make  the  new  SK  generation  legally  responsible and    matured  enough  to be  reliable and  responsive to the call  of  their  respective duties.
On  the  other  hand,  the  proponents for the  SK abolition  has  the  option to  replace it  with only  one Youth  Representative in the  barangay and  to  be  elected at  large  together with  other  regular  members  of  the  barangay  kagawads.  The  same  at  the  Municipal  or  City  level  where the  Youth  Representative  shall  be  elected simultaneously  with the  regular  members  of  the  Sanggunian. There  is  no  mechanism  for  the  rule  of  succession, if  a  permanent  or  temporary  vacancy  may  occur.
The  SKNF  headed  by the  incumbent President Louise  Gabriel del  Rosario is  pushing  hard  for  the  Sk  reform bill under  the leadership  of congressman, JV Ejercito,Party List Rep.  Palatino,  Akabayan Rep. Baggao, Congresswoman Maggie  del  Mar, Walden  Bello and the  fighting Congressman  Roilo Golez. The   fate  of  the  SK  organization will  be  tackled  again on  March  15,2012 where  the  LG  technical  working group will decide on the  issue.
xxxxx to  be  continued xxx  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.108.154 (talk) 15:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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message: User:Green Giant moved this page from Sangguniang Kabataan to Youth councils in the Philippines.  "Sangguniang Barangay" is common in English-language sources and has the benefit of  being official.  It is similar to Bundestag. Therefore more fitting with WP:CommonName. However I cannot figure out how to undo the move. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 08:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking into this, it seems that was the right move since this is an English part of Wikipedia and the name Sangguniang Kabataan is Tagalog.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 17:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The test according to my reading of WP:Commonname is not where the word or phrase comes from but what do people speaking English use. Nobody I know calls them "youth councils".  They are most common "SK" or "SK Council".  I believe that "Sangguniang Kabataan" is how they are listed on the ballot. See for instance SK Chairman.  My reading of the Wikipedia policy requires us to use the most commonly used name in an English language source and that is "Sangguniang Kabataan" or "SK"  --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 20:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Youth councils in the Philippines should be undone 

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message: Each SK is independently elected and operate independently of each other. As is the practice in the Philippines, they are brought together for form a variety of federations, including a national federation, but the chairman of the national federation has no say (or little say) over what happens in the tens of thousands of SKs across this large country.  The SK Chairmen in each barangay is the chairman of each body. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: User:112.202.18.113 is consistently changing this page to add in the Federation's leader as the leader of Sangguniang Kabataan. In my mind this is not correct.  See above.  I hope that User:112.202.18.113 will post here so that we can reach a consensus per  WP:Consensus.--Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 05:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Now the User:112.202.15.178 IP address is making the same changes.  Please discuss here whether the national federation president should be listed. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 04:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  SK's are independent of each other and therefore have no single leader. 

message: I merged the SK Chairman article into this one.  That former was very short and had little information.  Further there is little practical difference between the actions of the two.  It seems easier and clearer to have one article that can tease out the difference if any. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 14:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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