Talk:Shadow the Hedgehog/Archive 2

message: Check this out.
http://www.sonic-cult.org/!trash/snextcharbios.png
this is the second source to say that Shadow's age is 15.  IGN has also posted this info and said it was from SEGA?  Is that enough evidence?
Oh ,and it seems Mephiles is Shadow's dark side and Shadow/Rouge is vaguley canon to the games....also, Knuckles/Rouge seems to have been limited to Sonic X GrandMasterGalvatron 02:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, what is that? A scan of something? We'll need to know that, too. Secondly, a fansite saying something is 'vaugly cannon' isn't exactly the best insight... --InShaneee 17:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a character bio scan...abliet in concept stages but still, that 15 bit has turned up on IGN as well GrandMasterGalvatron 19:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can ref IGN, I'd use that as a proper source. --InShaneee 19:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/733/733792p1.htmlGrandMasterGalvatron 19:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gah!  Who keeps editing Shadow's age back and forth?!?!?  --Luigifan 22:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoever thinks Shadow is the age of "0" is at a complete lost of information. Physically, Shadow is 15 years old (like Sonic). But Shadow is 50 years old (time-wise) even if he was held in cryo-whats-it sleep. He's still been around for 50 years. UnDeRsCoRe 22:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Mentally Shadow the Hedgehog has only been awake for a few months maximum, so his mind isn't very old. He was in cyro and you can hardly count that as gaining experience on life. Furthermore his body is NOT 0 years old. Does he look like a newborn baby to you? And he IS immortal. 86.17.163.37 09:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Age

message: There's been a small edit war over this statement and reverts have caused the loss of other data.  Well, as it turns out, you're both wrong.  Sonic's doppleganger is Metal Sonic, as he bears the closest resemblance to Sonic and was created because of Sonic.  Officialy, there is nothing stating that Sonic had anything to do with Shadow's creation, as everything I've seen is speculation.  As for the arch rival bit, that would mean that Shadow is sonic's biggest foe, which he isn't....that would be Eggman.  Shadow is best described as a rival to Sonic.  Not an arch rival, or a doppleganger, just a rival.GrandMasterGalvatron 19:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okie dokie. --InShaneee 19:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: More of a rival than Knuckles these days...  --Luigifan 02:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Arch Rival vs. Doppleganger

message: Ya he, Ya he...all fellow wiki users!
This article is in pain, it as been Cleary vandaled hArdc0re!
The clean up date for this will be the 1st of April! Which is April's f00l's dAy:) Or it can start 2nd...if you f00ls wanna enjoy your joking days
Like I said, we are doing it the old fashion way, by letting editors edit the hell out of the article. After a while, we wiki members focuses on the article and clear out all rubbish edits!
Remember the clean up date will be the 1st of April...finishing on the 7th of April!
All we have to do now is wait...and watch the article get filled up with useless junk:)
:>x<ino 20:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 06:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean Up Date! 

message: By removing a lot of run on sentances and shortening what shouldn't be there. What do you think? Good? Worse? In between? --69.145.122.209 02:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops. Just saw that editing was supposed to begin soon... Hope I didn't mess anything up. I didn't, did I?--69.145.122.209 02:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I just did some major cleanup here

message: stop adding fancruft? The run on sentances and complete lack of grammer kill me; and the fact that half of these 'additions' are actually OPINIONS is not what Wikipedia is about. Help! --69.145.122.209 00:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your grammar isn't so great, itself...  But, yes, I do believe that we have no need for every Tom, Dick, and Harry's fancruft!!!  If they really want to stick it in, they should put it on the talk page first!  If it doesn't get shot down, then go ahead, but make sure to label it as a theory!!!  --Luigifan 22:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsourced theories shouldn't be put in the article, either. --InShaneee 23:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's unsourced, it's probably going to be shot down.  An illegitimate theory has no chance of surviving the public scrutiny that naturally occurs on Wikipedia.  --Luigifan 23:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Can we PLEASE

message: Could people please stop saying that Super Shadow's air dash is some type of spin dash that you don't have to charge. Read the manual! It says in there that it is called Air Dash! .:MindWraith
Should it be noted that the "air dash" is actually the jump dash from sonic adventure two and if close enough, Super Shadow will perform a hoing attack on nearby objects?  I have done it many time myself and actually hit Devil Doom with it Grandmastergalvatron 03:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's worth noting. --InShaneee 03:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Don't say that Shadow's speed is 'probably' this that or the other. Until Sega does a game without his shoes, we won't know how fast he is. And don't say that he's 'not nearly as strong as Knuckles'. And don't say that he's stronger than Knuckles either. Shadow the Hedgehog as a game was a bit off, but Shadow was throwing buses and huge slabs of pavement around. All the same, he was not busting through walls the way Knuckles was in Sonic Heroes. There probably is official information on Knuckles being the strongest, but it should go in Knuckles' entry. 86.17.163.37 09:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Knuckles probably isn't the strongest either....at least not without his Super form.  I'd say Metal Knuckles and Omega are good contenders as well as Chaos. GrandMasterGalvatron 14:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Shadow's Abilities 

message: Stop saying that he's cream colour! Cream is not a colour it's a food(and a name)! The correct term is beige.:MindWraith
Cream IS a color and happens to be Super Shadow's REAL coloring. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs.
Where did you get that information from, the official website? I don't remeber him being given the offiacial "colour" of cream, and beige is more technicaly accurate.:MindWraith
Funny, I don't remember any official sources saying beige is the color and beige is too dark compared to cream and Super Shadow's coloring - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs 67.173.62.22 14:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems pretty excessive. --InShaneee 03:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Shadow's color 

message: Please, please, PLEASE, use grammer! The run ons are unbelievable! GAH! If you use more than two commas in a sentace and it isn't a list or an apposotive, chances are it's a run on. Use periods or semicolons (;). Since I'm an anon IP I can't help a lot anyway, but come on! GRAMMER! ARGH! SPELLING! IT"S NOT THAT HARD! --69.145.122.209 03:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 03:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, I cleaned it up somewhat.  And I found a lot of mistakes in the relationships section: (I'm bolding the ones that are especially wrong)
"Shadow has no true family.  He was created by Professor Gerald Robotnik and was infused with Black Doom's DNA, and he became friends with the Professor's granddaughter, Maria.  Maria saved him from the ARK at the cost of her own life.  Her sacrifice continues to haunt him until he finally decided to let go of his past at the end of Shadow the Hedgehog.
While Shadow has formed some relationships with other characters in the series, his approach to Doctor Eggman is different.  While Sonic always tries to prevent Eggman's plans from succeeding, Shadow prefers to watch from afar.  This is evidenced by his lack of involvement in the Sonic Advance series, Sonic Rush, and the storyline of Sonic Riders (in which Eggman's activities are scaled back).
Shadow considers his greatest rival to be Sonic.  Thinking of him as arrogant, foolhardy and irritating, Shadow makes no secret of his disdain for Sonic, and they end up fighting almost every time they meet.  On certain occasions, the two hedgehogs must work together to save the world, but they will only agree to do so after it has become clear that the threat is too great for either of them to handle alone, even in their Super forms.
Shadow saved the life of Rouge the Bat in Sonic Adventure 2, although he was more likely simply trying to save the Chaos Emerald in Security Hall.  Afterward, the two formed an unlikely alliance in which Rouge used her expert treasure-hunting skills to further their cause.  It is possible that Shadow's unusual attachment to Rouge may be due to his memory of Maria, and he didn't want to see another life lost.  Rouge later released Shadow from his stasis pod at the beginning of Sonic Heroes, although seemingly out of curiosity.  She also rescued him from Gimmie Shelter in Sonic Battle."
Now this is why it's wrong:
*"Shadow prefers to watch from afar.  This is evidenced by his lack of involvement in the Sonic Advance series, Sonic Rush, and the storyline of Sonic Riders (in which Eggman's activities are scaled back)."  Just cause he doesn't appear in those games doesn't mean he likes to watch from afar.  It's speculation.  Besides, Rouge isn't in those games either. 
*"Shadow considers his greatest rival to be Sonic." More speculation.  Just because it looks like it, it doesn't mean it is.
*"...they end up fighting almost every time they meet.  On certain occasions, the two hedgehogs must work together to save the world, but they will only agree to do so after it has become clear that the threat is too great for either of them to handle alone, even in their Super forms." They end up fighting cause they usually have to.  In Sonic Battle, it's not cause their rivals, it's because Shadow wants Emerl.  And if Tails was in that position, Shadow would fight him as well.  And I don't think they will only agree to work together if the threat is too great for either of them to handle alone.  It's more speculation!
*"...although he was more likely simply trying to save the Chaos Emerald in Security Hall." Speculation and it contradicts with, "It is possible that Shadow's unusual attachment to Rouge may be due to his memory of Maria, and he didn't want to see another life lost." The latter is more likely, but it's more speculation.  It should be put something along the lines of, "Shadow may have said he was just trying to save the Chaos Emeralds, but it's possible that, due to his memory of Maria, he didn't want to see another life lost."  Something like that. BTW, "...Shadow's unusual attachment to Rouge..." Unusual is opinionated.
*"...formed an unlikely alliance..." Unlikely is opinionated.
*"...seemingly out of curiosity..." Speculation.
I would've fixed this up, but when I did last time, someone put it back.  So who disagrees that I should fix those up? --71.105.9.183 19:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Go ahead, as far as I'm concerned.  I made the edits to improve the readability of the article, but considering I am not an expert on the subject, I made little to no attempt to change the overall content of what was there when I started.  I fully admit the content itself may be totally wrong - I was simply going for making it read better. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

text: >x<ino 00:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: BTW, 69.145.122.209, just because you're an anon, you can still help a lot.  For instance (I know this is going off the subject of Shadow, but I'll talk about this just for a little bit), I'm about the only person to edit the Tikal the Echidna article.  If you check the history section, you will probably see a lot of my IP addresses, except for a few users. --71.105.1.213 18:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: >x<ino 18:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: To everyone editing this article

message: Looks great. I think it's finally done-the fancruft removed, the extra information taken out, therun on's shortened... Perfect. I think we all did a good job. Special thanks to 71.104.188.207, for probably having the best grammer and writing skills out of all of us. --69.145.122.209 22:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome job, everyone. Should we go for FA status?! -- RattleMan 23:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Bah. A couple of minutes of dinking around in this article made me realize why I usually stick with grammer. Too hard. Oh, well. Guess I'll stick with fixing copy-editing. :)--69.145.122.209 03:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Whoo!

message: I'm sorry that I'm complaining about the relationship section again, but it needs to be cleaned up!
I am bolding the really bad mistakes again:
"Perhaps Shadow's greatest rival can be said to be Sonic, whom Shadow finds foolhardy, arrogant, and irritating, while Sonic finds Shadow to be violent, humourless, and cold. When they first met in Sonic Adventure 2 they immediately became fierce enemies, but over time began to slowly develop respect for each other. They still fight often, but on certain occasions the two hedgehogs have to work together to save the world. However, this is usually only when the situation calls for it. When the world is in great danger, Shadow and Sonic often work together without hesitation (i.e. Shadow fought the Biolizard while Sonic went to the shrine in Sonic Adventure 2)."
This is why it's wrong:
*"Perhaps Shadow's greatest rival can be said to be Sonic, whom Shadow finds foolhardy, arrogant, and irritating, while Sonic finds Shadow to be violent, humourless, and cold." Perhaps is speculation, it should be something like, "Sonic is one of Shadow's rival..." And how do we know that Shadow finds Sonic "foolhardy, arrogant, and irritating"?  It's more like Shadow doesn't care about Sonic and just sees him as someone in the way.  And how does Sonic find Shadow to be "violent, humourless, and cold"?  Perhaps cold might be right, but what about violent and humourless?  When had they ever said or (explicitly) implied these things?  Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is.
*"When they first met in Sonic Adventure 2 they immediately became fierce enemies..." It's correct, but are they actually "fierce"?
*"They still fight often, but on certain occasions the two hedgehogs have to work together to save the world. However, this is usually only when the situation calls for it." I don't think the two hedgehogs mind working together, not "just when the situation calls for it."  It's not like they argue about it for a bit until finally agreeing to work together!  And in Sonic Heroes, they fight, but only because Rouge thinks they'll end up getting in their way.  So it's not like Shadow was the one who started it.  In Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic works together with Shadow a lot (even though Shadow doesn't want it), which means that Sonic doesn't seem to mind working together with Shadow.  Therefore, this sentence is wrong and should be revised!
So are there any complaints?  BTW, again, I'm sorry to be complaining so much about this section - I just really wanna clean it up! --71.104.189.192 18:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree wholheartedly. And it's not complaining to much as it is improving. I'd love to help, but my journalism skills always revolve around my voice (which is opinionated and humourous). Grammer is easy; you just fix it. Re-writing things is hard for me, because Wikipedia needs a NPOV. Something I have trouble with. :) --69.145.122.209 21:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship section

message: Today is the day I get rid of things such as, "Some people believe Shadow is calmer since his voice had lost its aggressive, overconfident tone, but this cannot be confirmed, especially since it's based only on Shadow's voice."  If there is no sources for it, it's going to be removed soon.  So does anyone want more time to get a source for it, or disagree that I should get rid of it? --71.104.184.130 18:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I think the voice actors changed at that point in time, didn't they? --69.145.122.209 21:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: You know, I cleaned some things up with good reason (which was mentioned on this talk page) but it got reverted again!  Does anybody know why? --71.105.4.113 18:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I think someone who wrote it originally is convinced their version it much better (which is not true) and would like to keep it. I'd put "Re, Talk Page" in there, so they can see why it's wrong. --69.145.122.209 21:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No problem. :) --69.145.122.209 23:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Just because he does one heroic thing does not make him a hero. --InShaneee 02:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: Um, does the front picture actually have to say, "Shadow, as seen on the Sonic Channel"? Why not just, "Shadow the Hedgehog" or something. --71.105.1.23 00:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Taken care of. :)--69.145.122.209 02:03, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yep. And the source doesn't always have to be the name, although it is usually. --69.145.122.209 22:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Hey, why is the picture on the front in the same place as the Shadow the Hedgehog section? --71.105.10.23 16:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I fixed it up now! --71.104.187.141 03:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: I changed the personality section because it kept sounding like Shadow was very violent, aggressive, and destructive.  Well, Shadow has a softer side!  Because:
1) Shadow actually cried before!  In SA2, when Amy Rose reminded Shadow of Maria, Shadow had a tear drop in his eye.  If you don't believe me, check the game and you'll see something sparkle in his eye.
2) Shadow was softer when he was talking to Maria almost all the time.
Also, I got rid of the sentence talking about two cents because I don't know what that simile meant.  If you want to put that sentence back, you can, but please don't put in simile form.
And in the show, Sonic X, Shadow does have a soft side, just like the game. --71.104.180.139 18:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To me, Shadow is extremely sensetive and caring, and tries to cover it up by acting cruel and angry. --69.145.122.209 00:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's true!  So why does it sound like Shadow is so violent and aggressive? --71.104.177.52 18:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think whoever founded the article decided he wasn't, and it just stuck. --69.145.122.209 22:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

text:  It is true that Shadow has a softer side.  However, all the things said about Shadow being a lone wolf and being violent, aggressive, and destructive are true as well.  Whether his aggressiveness is an act or not, he still likes being alone and he often treats others in a very cruel or uncaring manner.  Since Shadow has a softer side, I think it should be represented in the article.  However, I do not think that Shadow should be made to look any less aggressive or dark then he is to convey this fact.  Personally, I think that the text in the article is almost perfect.  Maybe with a few more edits, you can show that Shadow has a softer side while keeping the current text and it's current meaning intact.72.235.129.253 07:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we should change this now. It's turned out that Shadow has been all destructive and evil and what not since being shut into that capsule due to Mephiles the Dark. -Chao9999 20:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Personality section

message: I wanna say somewhere that Shadow's quills in Sonic Adventure 2 are exactly the same as Super Sonic's... or is that not worth mentioning?
:I don't think so, though it might be worth mentioning that hedgehogs do not have quills, they have spines. -- VederJuda 00:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quills 

message: Was he truly the main villain of Sonic Adventure 2, or was it Gerald Robotnik?  For me, it's Shadow.
:I'm not sure if Sonic Adventure 2 had a main villain.  To me, Shadow was a villain among several other villains in that game. 72.235.129.253 07:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About his debut... 

message: is it just me or didn't it sound like Shadow had a English accent in Sonic Adventure? it sounded like it to me
That sentence is so funny and improbable.--Schwarzes Nacht 11:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accent? 

message: There are some unconfirmed "facts" in this section.
Super Shadow is the transformed state of Shadow.  Shadow can perform this transformation when he harnesses the power of the seven Chaos Emeralds. In this form, his body color changes from black to a bright yellow-cream or lemon cream color, and all his powers and abilities are enhanced up to their limit. 
-We do not know that Super shadow's powers are his limits, he may be able to become stronger.-
Super Shadow made his first appearance in Sonic Adventure 2, where he had to battle against the Finalhazard with Super Sonic.  Like Sonic, Shadow requires rings in order to maintain this super form.
Super Shadow has greatly enhanced speed, 
-We have never seen Super shadow run, only fly, so we are not %100 sure he is faster-
-I am.  If you pay close attention in SA2 while super Shadow, if you don't use the dash move and just go, you will notice that the "Max Speed" lines that appear when a character is at max speed appear very quickly and his hair begins to move.  That's as good an indication as any that he is faster Grandmastergalvatron 04:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Shadow 

message: I need some help removing excessive wikilinks from this article, as someone keeps adding them back in every time I take them out. Basically, guidelines say that in general, a term should only be wikiliniked the first time it appears in an article. However, here, terms are wikilinked pretty much every time they appear. Anyone want to help de-link them and keep them that way? --InShaneee 14:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. The anon IP's (excluding myself), however, want them to stay there. I've tried time and time again to get this page protected, but nothing helps. --69.145.123.171 20:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you're talking to an admin right here. Gimme a hand, take 'em out, and if they put 'em back in, warn 'em and link 'em to the guideline. I would have reverted their re-adding before, but it would have lost some of your edits. --InShaneee 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Kay. Working on it as we speak...--69.145.123.171 21:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright. Done. I think I got most of them. --69.145.123.171 21:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, much appreciated. Now, we just need to give the PR request a few days to gather comments, and we can begin the road to a Featured Article! --InShaneee 21:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh. I would love to get FA status. Somehow I doubt it will happen, but still. Now that I think about it, I could source these... Uno momento...--69.145.123.171 21:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Dangit... I can't do it right now. I did a few (3, I think) it's just tough to find anything that's not about the game of the same name. --69.145.123.171 22:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive wikilinks 

message: Coming along nicely...but here's a thought: Should we move "Other appearences" up above "Abilities" so we can catch it in the Spoiler tags? --InShaneee 19:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: if my suggestion is how it was before, forget it, just do as you suggest. I don't really edit this article much. --DavidHOzAu 12:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, actually, that's not a bad idea. I was kind of poking around to see if anyone knew if there was precedent for any specific order of topics, but if not, I think we should go with your suggestion. --InShaneee 15:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section swapping 

message: Actually, wouldn't Shadow be a 'black arm' alien? Shadow was created from Black Doom's blood, so that makes him an alien that only looks like a hedgehog, right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Superbub (talk • contribs) 19:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless, he's pretty hedgehog-y now. --InShaneee 23:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, "Hedgehog" is his dominant trait.  I think "Transgenic Hedgehog" is a lot better. --DavidHOzAu 08:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm still going to have to disagree. He may have black arms dna, but I think this is a case of "if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...". --InShaneee 00:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  transgenic hedgehog.... 

message: * :Image:Shadow 12.jpg
* :Image:Shadow005.jpg
* :Image:Shadow xzyu.gif
* :Image:Shadowbattle2.gif
Wow, nice imagery but they're obviously all redundant and depict essentially the same character. According to the Fair Use policy this is a bit excessive. They also lack source information, so they could be deleted at anytime. I've removed them from the article. -Randall Brackett 18:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: "...Shadow becomes weak without his power rings." Huh? In the episodes I've seen, the rings on his gloves and shoes act as power restrainers. When they're removed, he can destroy an entire battleship in one attack.  --Banjotooie142
Rhetorical question: What happens after he has completed his attack? Fatigue, unconsciousness, or a coma, with the last being more likely. (okay, so it wasn't rhetorical.) --DavidHOzAu 04:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic X Abilities 

message: It appears that "Image:Shadow01.jpg" has been deleted. --Alexie 01:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I got this image from the page history. --DavidHOzAu 01:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I replaced the image with that image.  Someone was using ugly image that was the same thing, but was too small and was being stretched--it looked bad on the page. --Brandon Dilbeck 23:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted image 

message: The Shadow with the yellow strips what is his name does he have one? And how do the Shadow androids and look-a-like use Chaos Blast
I don't have the game anymore, but I believe the androids who had weapons from the start couldn't use chaos blast or control. I believe the yellow striped shadow is just an android aswell, like the ones in the more advanced levels while fighting Robotnik, err eggman.Czin 14:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The androids have all the same abilities as Sahdow. I've used Chaos blast several times and Chaos Control is not allowed due to the arena shape. Grandmastergalvatron 00:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: "Recently, SEGA said that Shadow's actual speed is the same as Sonic's[760 MPH,and can use Sonic's X Factor because Shadow can mimic anything used by Sonic by seeing it only one time" Where can this be confirmed?Czin 00:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SEGA says... 

message: Okay, this is the user AtomicIrritantDevlin. I was too lazy to log on, but I have some complaints. First of all, people do not call Shadow 15, they call him 50. Heis physically aged about 15. He is NOT the same age as Sonic, he just APPEARS to be. Also, he is not Sonic's evil self. he has no verified connections to sonic beyond being his rival and looking like him. While he is an evil twin cliche, he is not ACTUALLY Sonic's evil counterpart or anything- particularily because he isn't evil, he's "neutral". Someone fix this crap.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by  24.64.223.203 (talk • contribs)  20:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IGN got some exclusive info just before TGS which stated that he is fifteen. He is the physical age of fifteen (no, he's not even at least fifty--throughout all that time he was in suspended animation, so he did not age). In technical terms, he'd be over fifty, yes. However, his physical age (yes, I know that he also 'technically' does not age, but aside from that aspect--he wouldn't have aged anyway as he was in suspended animation). On technical terms--he's over fifty, but he's still the age of fifteen, so it should be noted in the article. For the rest of it, it can clearly be fixed. Shadow was never 'evil' from the start, just not fully good. --Ultima 15:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrections in the Opening Paragraph

message: How far is this one from GA and subsequently FA status?  I haven't seen any complaints about this one GrandMasterGalvatron 14:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortuanly, we have yet to solve the major problem from the peer review of not having many, if any, sources. --InShaneee 19:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article?