Talk:Pain (Three Days Grace song)

message: Should Pain (song) redirect to this page? Should this page be moved? Currently, Pain (song) redirs to Futures (album). If the song "Pain" by Jimmy Eat World is not notable enough to have its own page, then "(Three Days Grace song)" is not necessary, and this article should be entitled Pain (song) because it is the only other song named "Pain". --Jon Terry, 2006 October 10 6:55 UTC
:Well, the Jimmy Eat World song is notable as it ALSO hit #1 on the US Modern Rock chart. Doc Strange 14:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pain (song)/Move 

message: The article is written horribly. It should be re-written.
(According to the band, the song is based on the pain and loneliness encountered on the road during their tours. The band describes this as when people are inches away from you, but you feel miles apart. They allow themselves to be immersed in pain and depression, while they try to listen to a voice that tries to help them break free of this pain.)
^ Very poorly written. Its source is not cited and it's written in conversational style.
--69.246.240.75 19:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision of article? 

message: "According to other sources this song is based on emotionless, rough sex between two people."
Removed "between two people" - redundant, yes?
:It's rather self-evident that the song is about frantic, emotionally-detached sex (BDSM, etc.) and the utilization of erotic pain in an effort to break out of a numb state of despair.  ("Pain, without love... I like it rough 'cause I'd rather feel pain than nothing at all.")  This kind of acting out is common among survivors of rape or abuse, and often manifests itself in other, non-sexual ways (i.e., cutting and other forms of self-mutilation).  This too is supported in the verse ("Happiness doesn't work" and "I know that you're wounded").  So where did that ridiculous theory about "loneliness on the road" come from?  That alleged quote isn't sourced, and it makes absolutely no sense in the context of the lyrics. -- Trowbridge (talk) 19:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoink 

message: Ok I know I have heard an earlier version of pain by three days grace from a band in the 80's or at least a segment that sounds just like the "pain, can't get enough,.." part. Someone who was big into 80's,... please tell me who the artist and song is so I don't drive myself nuts trying to remember.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.121.5.44 (talk) 03:13, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  gee this sounds familliar 

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Pain Single Real.jpg