Talk:Mark Williams (politician)

message: This article reads like material pasted from a campaign website. While there may not be copyright issues associated with that, it still creates NPOV issues. --BillC 00:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I removed some material from the article. There were three reasons for this:
# Some of its content had been vandalised.
# There was material not relevant to its subject, for example biographical details of his wife. If she is a notable enough individual to have this level of detail, then the proper place for it is in an article about her. If she is not notable enough, then a biographical article on Mark Williams is likely to require only a brief mention of her.
# Much of the text, as had been noted earlier, seemed to have been copied from Williams' and the LiDems' websites. This had created POV (and copyright) problems for the article. A biographical article on any individual should conform to Wikipedia's NPOV policy.
If you disagree with this, please discuss it here in the article talk page. Finally, I do recommend you create a WP account. Changes made by known editors carry a lot more weight than those made anonymously. Regards, --BillC 21:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for replying. This addresses the issue of copyright. However, one point remains: Does the material conform to neutral point of view? This is important. Material taken from a politician's website, no matter its copyright status, is unlikely to be free of bias: it is, in effect, a form of advertisement. The maintenance of neutrality is important for WIkipedia. (Incidently, if you type four tildes ~~~~ after your text on talk pages, it signs and timestamps your edits, which is useful). --BillC 21:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significant edits 

message: Er, are you sure about that statement that he's a non Welsh speaker? I'm sure I've heard him speak Welsh on S4C in the past. Harry Hayfield 15:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard him read out statements in Welsh, but he is not able to converse freely in Welsh, which is the usual definition of a Welsh-speaker.  Lord Tonypandy would read out carefully prepared statements in Welsh on the Welsh news when he was Welsh Secretary, but he was most certainly not a Welsh-speaker.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.66.232 (talk) 12:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

text: The Welsh Liberal website says "Welsh learner", rather than speaker. — BillC  talk 19:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of Welsh speaking

message: I've just reverted the recent vandalism that was done to this page. Please keep an eye out just in case someone tries this again! - Greg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.138.16 (talk) 16:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Vandalism

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