Talk:Al-Zahrawi

message: another uploaded image from Kitab al-Tasrif can be found here :Image:Zahrawi1.png. ITAQALLAH 12:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: another image

message: It seems to be the same than Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (936 - 1013),  even if the births don't match. Precise birth and death of Abu al-Qasim are not sure and he is also famous to have found some internal medical examinations.  TCY 13:10, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're right. I can't find much on Albulassim that would indicate that he's a different person. Furthermore, in some dialects the Qaaf is silent, which would change Abu al-Qasim into Abu al'asim and, with the merging of the letters when spoken (certain letters are absorbed in speech), becomes Abu lassim. It's almost certain that these two people are the same. No response with the message that you left on the user's talk page means that I'm going to turn Abulassim's into a redirect. Cheers, CP 17:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Albulassim = Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi ? 

message: how are his instruments different than these? http://www.hsl.virginia.edu/historical/artifacts/roman_surgical/
J8079s (talk) 01:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, but the source actually says this: "He devised about 200 new surgical instruments such as knifes, curettes, retractors, spoons, sounds, hooks, rods and specula." He obviously didn't invent the scalpel, hook, or specula, so I interpret this to mean he invented new types of these instruments. But the article implies that he invented them. I'll see if I can re-word it. Rees11 (talk) 04:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  rewrite 

message: In the first paragraph, it doesn't mention his ethnicity as "Arab" like on other pages about influencial/historical people. There's no contest on ethnicity here as it mentions his origin multiple times throughout the article - so this is just am article template minor edit. Pink Princess (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm curious why this article refers to al-Zahrawi as "Islam's greatest medieval surgeon" and other Islamic references. There is absolutely no mention on how Islam or Islamic agents affected this man's research, or why Muslims were in Spain. Furthermore, his administering of alcohol to patients, an intoxicating drink, would seem to run counter to Islam. This smacks of evangelizing and apologetics for Islam rather than providing anything of historical or scholastic value.
70.134.48.134 (talk) 08:03, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The common factor among these Islamic scholars(some of them were not actually Muslims)is that they all lived during the Rule of Islamic state, which was based on teachings of Quran. To your surprise, Quran is not just a book of prayers but also includes detailed treatment of a comprehensive constitution needed to organize and govern the life of Muslims. This system allowed science and technological advancements to prosper. Most of these principles are universal to humanity and that is why it is not surprising to Muslims that other states can advance in science and technology if they establish their constitution on justice, fairness, human rights and wellness (a major driving motive behind inventions), law and order, etc. Islam is not science but it provided the right environment for science and technology to prosper, as the case in the Golden Age of Islam. A second point is that Islam prohibits drinking alcohol unless it is necessary to use. Islamic Sharia or Fiqh (Jurisprudence) is much complicated than it looks to you. The Fiqh rule in this case is that necessity supersedes prohibition, which is clearly outlined in verses from Quran. I hope this was informative.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.174.127 (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe someone can add to the article the sociopolitical infrastructure of the Islamic state back then, and its influence on nurturing scientific and technological advancements. Such infrastructure could be very similar to what we see today in technologically advanced countries which promote scientific advancement for the betterment of humanity which requires that the country is a promoter of human rights, welfare, justice, law and order. The promotion can also be in very similar forms of today's media propaganda, research funding, free education, and so forth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.174.127 (talk) 14:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missed Arab 

message: This article has been edited by a user who is known to have misused sources to unduly promote certain views (see WP:Jagged 85 cleanup). Examination of the sources used by this editor often reveals that the sources have been selectively interpreted or blatantly misrepresented, going beyond any reasonable interpretation of the authors' intent.
Diffs for each edit made by Jagged 85 are listed at Cleanup4. It may be easier to view the full history of the article.
A script has been used to generate the following summary. Each item is a diff showing the result of several consecutive edits to the article by Jagged 85, in chronological order.
* :Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi: 
Johnuniq (talk) 11:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: With 31 edits, User:Jagged 85 is the main contributor to this article (2nd: 7). The article has been tagged intermittently since December 2010. The issues are a repeat of what had been exemplarily shown here, here, here, here or here. I restore the last pre-Jagged version of 25 May 2007 keeping the categories, interwiki links, templates, further reading etc., but removing exceptional unreferenced claims. For more background information, please see RFC/U and Cleanup. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 23:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are removing a lot more than Jagged's content. Saying that you also removed exceptional claims won't work either, you need to use tags to give editors a chance to provide references. Al-Andalusi (talk) 00:03, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misuse of sources 

message: Arabic refers to the language; Arab refers to the people or culture. "Arabic medicine" implies medical texts written in the Arabic language, which may be written by non-Arabs. https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/17/arab-arabic-arabian/ Mpaniello (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Arab medicine," not "Arabic medicine"