Talk:Jonas Gahr Støre

message: Has anyone else noticed that the photo credit on the source picture for Jonas is given to a man named Harry Wad?  That's hilarious.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.58.23.132 (talk) 10:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Hilarious

message: I wonder whether this is noteworthy. I get the impression that this was a one-off occurrence. Unless information to the contrary can be provided I don't think this is worth mentioning at all. __meco 12:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Literary critic?

message: As far as I know, the Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs does not go by the name of Judas al-Gahr bin Støre.
109.199.219.35 (talk) 00:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalism. removed now. Thank you. Rettetast (talk) 15:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name?

message: He is very rich, but the article provides no information that suggests how this wealth has come to him. If this information is available I think we should include something about it in the article. __meco (talk) 19:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You can find it in one of the refs: Mangemillionær som utenriksminister. "He had an income of 7,4 million in 2004 [...] He paid more than twice as much in taxes as the one next on the list, Jens Stoltenberg, had in revenue last year. [...] Gahr Støre has become wealthy on stocks. He own parts of several family companies which together possess a substantial share portfolio. He took the entire 22.3 million kroner out in tax-free dividend in the last four years. The wealth derived from the sale of the family's iron foundry business Jøtul to Norcem at the end of the 1970s. While he was deputy secretary at the Prime Minister's office Gahr Store was accused of having used his position to make money on stocks. He himself has always claimed that the share transactions were never affected by the information he received by virtue of his position as Head of International Department. -TheG (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully we can have this added to the article. __meco (talk) 07:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where does his wealth stem from? 

message: OK translation? 
 --No parking here (talk) 09:40, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Article about the PM not knowing about his minister being a co-owner of 3 tankers (LNG carriers)

message: Having a separate section Jonas Gahr Støre#Part-ownership in a ship that did business in an Iranian port black-listed by the United States looks stupic, I think. This should be a part of another section, as it was. __meco (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This story broke after the story about him helping out his buddy's foundation. I disagree with your idea—the placement is fine, but the content can be expanded. (The story will probably blow over, if a new cabinet is formed as a result of the next election. The story will probably not blow over, if his stake in the ship is not sold before the next election. Expect a sale, smack in the middle of the period between now and the next election.) That story has clearly been eclipsed by his previous troubles in front of the Standing Committee on Constitutional Affairs, in May of 2012. --No parking here (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivial section 

message: This article is a mess, complete and utter chaos. It needs an overhaul. Roghue 17:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a mess 

message: This article, on a rather important person, has been suffering from POV-pushing for too long. It is clearly in violation of Wikipedia's policies on living people and objectivity, as it contains approx. 10% biography and 90% character defamation. I propose that the article be edited by editors with WP's purpose in mind, and without any enmity towards Støre. We can do better than this. --Eisfbnore (会話) 20:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Right.I removed the 2012 parliamentary hearing section as it was far too long and detailed and I couldn't find a reasonable way to shorten it. Better to start that section again, and make it far shorter and more concise. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2012 parliamentary hearing was a serious deal for Støre, therefore I have found a reasonable way to put all the text back. --Ship owner symposium (talk) 18:04, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The hearing is definitely notable enough for inclusion, but not to make up more than a third of the overall article. And adding other criticism in the article criticism and controversies make up about half of the article, like Eisfbnore mentions. Which is ridiculuously undue. Articles on Living persons are to be fair to the subject at any time per WP:BLP. I couldn't find a quick way to shorten the section, but I will invite you to include a more concise section. I will remove the long section yet again in order to comply with BLP and I will bring the article to the BLP Noticeboard if reinserted. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 18:17, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You say "too detailed", and I say "detailed enough". The only thing not complicated about the parliamentary hearing, is that he beat the charges, except for the minority of the commission strongly criticizing him in the "verdict". --Ship owner symposium (talk) 18:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sure you are right that the matter was complicated, but 1) the section may be more readable if shortened and summarized better, 2) (much more importantly): An article of a living person is to be fair to the subject at all times. The thing here is that the article is very short and light on many other and more positive/neutral sides of Støre's career. Basically, what the policy about BLPs says is: If the positive or neutral sides of a living person is lightly covered, we have to cover the negative sides equally light. The best thing would of course be if someone started expanding the overall article, with due (and not undue) weight to criticism etc.  Regards, Iselilja (talk) 19:14, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The section about the Parliamentary hearing, is full of positives. He helped his billionaire buddy, and he later beat the charges regarding impartiality. --Ship owner symposium (talk) 10:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs serious cleanup 

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message: Hey all,
I have been trying for 30 minutes to add a citation for information I wanted to add and literally nothing works. Every single gadget I have tried just. won't work on this page. I don't know what's wrong with it, I have removed all my browser extensions to no avail. I'm not gonna add unsourced information cuz, yk, BLP, so can someone do me a favor and add the fact he is referred to as a Francophile and has expressed affinity for the German language, as explained in this  from the Norwegian government. I will be eternally grateful.
I apologize if that is inappropriate information for the article. 
Pear 2.0 (say hi!) 16:15, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  can someone do me a favor