Talk:Bento

message: I think it should be mentioned that Taiwan has adopted ( from japanese colonial times ) the bento, ä¾¿ç•¶ in Chinese.
:it is mentioned in the article. And please sign your posts Wenzi 21:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwan

message: I think this should definitely be merged with the main Bento article, unless someone has a whole lot more to say about it. It's really interesting, and something I'd want to know just reading about bento in general.  Archivizt 01:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and merged them. I'm still new around, so I'm not totally sure I redirected everything right. If someone could check that would make me a happy panda. --SidiLemine 13:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Shokado_bento|Shokado Bento]]

message: the two kanji for bento "弁当" seems to be ateji. Does anyone know what the presumably indigenous word "bento" means? what is its etymology?
: 便当 (the Chinese word for bento box) also means "convenient" in mainland Mandarin. I don't think this meaning a loanword from Japanese because you can take the word apart in Chinese: 当 is a character that can be attached to some other characters to make it an adverb/action-describing adjective (e.g. 妥当、顺当、恰当), 便 means "convenient" or "ease". Problem is that 弁 is not a shinjitai of 便。 --Voidvector 05:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Who the hell wrote "This article or section does not cite its references or sources.
You can help Wikipedia by introducing appropriate citations."?  Live in Japan and this is common sense.  Do we need a cite to state that the US is in N. America?!?!?!?!?!
:You don't seem to understand the purpose of that tag or references in general. No, you don't have to have a reference that states the US is in North America. However, the history section could use a LOT of references to verify the facts that are presented there. References aren't used to back up common knowledge, they're used to back up obscure facts or things that need proof to be verifiable. Most people don't know the history behind bentos and most people don't want to just take someone else's word that the section is 100% accurate and full of history fact. This is why references are used. In general, every Wikipedia article should have numerous references; this one currently has none, which is why the tag is there. --pIrish 22:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then why is the tag for the whole article?  There is nothing disputable in the lede, for example.  I've moved the tag to the history section per your comments.  --C S (talk) 23:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  references 

message: This sentence is just above the 'Other' section: "Corrosion of metal bento boxes by the acid of umeboshi was used to be popular in Japan, and eventually makes a hole in the middle of the lid."
Could someone untangle it? I would, but I don't know what it's trying to say... --StarChaser Tyger 07:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, I'm not sure what it means either, but it was changed by User:Jjok here. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 15:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eh, wha? 

message: Starting with a 4:3:2:1 ratio as a traditional style is a bit misleading. Bentō can take any form; it just has an orientation of having many kinds of side dish and enough amount of rice, which reflects the Japanese dietary habit and a sense of joy. So it's true that rice accounts for about a half and that rice usually comes with a small amount of pickles. However, it should be stressed that the ratio is just an example for an explanatory purpose. (This is how the Japanese wiki article for bentō was written.) Also, what is "traditional?" In the past, hinomaru bentō and onigiri bentō, both of which are largely made of rice, were pretty common. For a quick fix, the word "typical" is more appropriate than "traditional." Hrkoew 15:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to make bentō 

message: Is this a common practice? 
If sushi is a part of the bento, it should be prepared with more wasabi than normal. 
As wasabi's effect for food presevation is strong, I personally haven't heard of increasing the amount of wasabi. Some smart people put a small amount of wasabi inside the bentō box when the bentō is NOT sushi, though. Also, since rice vinegar is used for sushi, sushi is by nature a preservative food. Indeed, there are many kinds of sushi which wasabi is not used for.Hrkoew 16:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to make bentō - wasabi 

message: Needs etymology; Wiktionary says the first character means "Zhou dynasty cap," which doesn't make any sense. Badagnani (talk) 02:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Concerning this sentence: "Dokaben (ドカベン) is a baseball manga of which the title came from the protagonist, Taro Yamada's huge bento box (dokaben)." The sentence seems to be saying that the manga's protagonist is a bento box. Is that correct? Dcwaterboy (talk) 20:41, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dokaben's protagonist 

message: ::I have removed the move request tag as the move discussion is moot at the moment. The discussion can continue, however, until a consensus has been reached on where this article should be. I also struck the strong oppose by The Ogre as he's changed it to mild oppose below. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Bento (takeout) → Bento — This page was moved without discussion, and is surely the most common and sought use of the term. I propose it be moved back, submitting to wp:requested moves. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 21:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: How can you say that this is "the most common and sought use of the term" - if you google Bento most of the results do not refer to the Japanese takeout. The Ogre (talk) 21:46, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I just did, half on the first page alone did. http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=bento&aq=1&oq=bent Thank you for proving my point! Not surprisingly, nobody named Bento showed up on that first page. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 00:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea... you're right, I did not search through English language Google. My mistake! The Ogre (talk) 13:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

text: That's not a solution. People aren't going to be searching for "Bentō," they're going to be searching for "Bento" and "Bento" would still need to be redirected somewhere. Further, it's really advised again using symbols in the article title because it overly complicates the URL. "Bento" either needs to go here or a disambiguation page. --132 01:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Actually, it can be spelled both ways in English, and you're right, it was sloppy renaming on The Ogre's part. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 02:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but I'm going with the article here: take-out. We should be consistent across Wikipedia. Now that it's been moved back, can this please be discussed so we can come to a consensus? --132 03:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In my defense I just spelled it as it appears in the article's intro line ("is a single-portion takeout..."). The Ogre (talk) 13:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move without discussion 

message: Should the first paragraph mention the term "aisaibento" (loving wife bento)? I remembered that term being used but could not  remember the Japanese translation, which I found on a blog as 愛妻弁当 - that's probably not citable. --Srl (talk) 18:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, the blog is not citable. You'll need to find a reliable source to include it. Thanks! --132 20:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  aisaibento? 

message: There seems to be an emerging trend of making bento into art, see [] [] []
Does this warrant a place in the article (the idea, not necessarily the blog links)?
Yakatz (talk) 03:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much anything from a blog is considered unreliable. Anything that is included should also be accompanied by a reliable source. I'm familiar with this and active in various communities, but I have a lot of doubts about coming up with anything that would pass as the vast majority is community/blog based. --132 04:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Animage has a column on it every month which shows one or two different anime characters done as a bento. The column has been running for a few years now. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you link to specific articles? Thanks! --132 04:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, as Animage doesn't put their articles online. Sorry. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bento in Art? 

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message: The article currently states that "便當" was chosen because of the meaning of "convenience pack", but this is a bit suspicious as while "便" does means "easy" (q.v. "方便"), "當" doesn't carry that meaning. "便當" is also identical in sound to Mandarin rendering of "弁当". I'm not aware of any sources that discuss the origin of the term in Taiwan, and my Mandarin reading skills are probably not up to the task. For the moment, I am simply going to remove the "convenience pack" mention. siafu (talk) 19:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taiwanese Mandarin Name 

message: Is this section really relevant? The entire subsection only has 1 source, and doesn't seem to be a widely supported viewpoint. 
Dietcoke3.14 (talk) 20:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bento and the ideological state apparatus