Talk:Tell (archaeology)

message: The external link tells less than the article itself. Delete?
--Yak 16:30, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)
I'm rather doubtful about the claim that the Bulgarian word for a tell is 'mogila'.  In Russian (closely related) it simply means 'grave'. --Smack 21:55, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Isn't there a tell (similar to the tell in poker) in martial arts? 128.6.175.60 20:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There also is a Wilhelm Tell in literature, maybe there should be a link for disambiguation or something.. --89.51.85.27 14:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created Tell (disambiguation) to record other uses of the word. --G Rutter 16:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A different tell 

message: I added a link to :he:תל but all the interwikis there link to Tumulus in various languages.  DVD+ R/W 20:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like someone on the Hebrew wiki has made a mistake then- as our articles make clear tumuli are grave mounds and tells are settlement remains. --G Rutter 23:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tel and Tumulus 

message: Is Tel Aviv a tell, or was it named after one? Stonemason89 (talk) 20:19, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a real tell, however the very phrase "Tel Aviv", which is derived from the Bible (Ezekiel 3 15), means (in Hebrew): "Tell of spring". 84.228.29.68 (talk) 21:48, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The name Tel Aviv derives from Herzl book "Altneuland" / The Old New Land, that was translated into Hebrew as "Tel Aviv". Tel represents the "Old", Aviv, means "spring", represents the "new". It is also a name of a Jewish community in Babylon on the times of Ezkiel. Indeed, it is not a real Tell, though in its area there are several Tells, such as Tell_Qasile and Tell Kudadi. https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%AA%D7%9C_%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%93%D7%90%D7%93%D7%99 --Noavic (talk) 12:56, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tel Aviv 

message: I wonder if the turkish term höyük (like in Çatalhöyük, Tille Höyük (-> tell), Alaca Höyük - sometimes also called hüyük in place names) is more similar to Tell or to Kurgan?! It may be a mixture of both because the purpose vary between settlement and burial; Tell comes from southeast (arabic/hebrew) and kurgan is turkic origin but not used in place names... --katpatuka (talk) 16:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  höyük (Turkey) 

message: Having a list of tells in the body of the article is somewhat pointless. Tells are quite numerous. You can't really call it tells of note or noteworthy tells, but as it stands it this doesn't belong here. There could be a Wikipedia category called Tells though. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 11 Shevat 5775 03:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. No problem with removing this list.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 07:57, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: All righty, I've started the massive task of creating the Tell category. I expect that it will have several hundred sites when it's done. In the meantime, I think we should keep the list in the article, but only include the best known tells. I think you can't use notable or other such terms according to WP:WTA, so what would be a good way to do this? Examples of tells maybe? Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 16 Adar 5775 22:56, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Examples of, major, typical, significant, important. Any of those, but not "list" which implies completeness.  Where the name begins with "Tell" you should I think sort on the rest of the name. Johnbod (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, list is definitely not the term to use here. As you said, it implies that paltry collection is the whole bunch. I noticed that sorting problem too. How do you make it sort by the second word in the name in some cases if that's possible? Obviously in cases where you have a dash after Al, there's not much you can do. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 16 Adar 5775 23:08, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Like this, with Hot Cat (on Preferences), or not. Johnbod (talk) 23:25, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Saw that and started doing it in a few places. A good place to look for more tells is in Cities of the Ancient Near East and also see what links to the Tells page. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 16 Adar 5775 23:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

text: It would be nice to have an annotated list, with the country, approximate date, and anything particularly interesting about the tell. Siuenti (talk) 23:11, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We could do that, but we'd have to keep it short of course. Most of the sites there are there because they're of archaeological significance (though I do have a bias towards Tel Kabri and Tel Megiddo as I work at those two sites, but they're significant sites). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 16 Adar 5775 23:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

text: I kind of like that idea more so long as we can also give them wee descriptions. That was me and I think I've used that book before for something else. It's a ridiculously wide and tall book if I remember correctly. If you could, that would be great! Maybe email it to me as well because I think I need that cite for a nota bene in the Kabri article. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 17 Adar 5775 13:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of tells kind of pointless in the article 

message: Nowhere in the article there is a mention of the fact that the meaning of the Arabic 'tell' is simply a 'hill'.  In English, I think that this word is used strictly for Iraqi archeological mounds and probably adopted by the earlier archeologists like Leonard Woolley (see his book: Sumerians) who worked in Iraq. 5.42.198.210 (talk) 16:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: In Hebrew, it exists in the same Archaeological meaning. Israel is full of Tells.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noavic (talk • contribs) 15:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that meaning of the original Arabic word is in the first sentence of the lead... Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of the original Arabic word tell 

message: I object to the changes made to the headings and layout of the end matter by , and have reverted them per "bold, revert, discuss". This is covered by WP:REFVAR: users should not change referencing styles based solely on their own personal preferences, but must get consensus on the talk page. Anybody support these changes? NSH001, you are welcome to get a third opinion or start an RFC if you think this matter of style is truly important in the larger scheme of things. Skyerise (talk) 11:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to be clear, you're talking about this revert? Which changed the headings over the footnotes? – Joe (talk) 11:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. I prefer how it was and the change was not necessary. If others think it's an improvement, that's fine too, but the editor seems to be working to conform multiple articles to some essay which is not binding and such unneeded changes are generally discouraged if there are objections. Skyerise (talk) 11:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it makes absolutely no difference either way. – Joe (talk) 11:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Well, it's a distraction from more useful work. I too support the way it was - firstly because I'm against neurotic drive-by changes, 2ndly this is the most common style, & 3rdly because it's the style I prefer. Johnbod (talk) 12:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to the layout of the end matter