Talk:Automotive industry in the Soviet Union

message: I improved the article with new and sourced information, new models, higher resolution photos in accordance with WP:CARPIX (most of them are of the highest quality and the cars depicted are in excellent condition) and entire paragraphs, but there is some vandal 37.55.206.58 (Pashko) who has made attempts to remove all the edits, delete a number of models and change the photos to those of battered cars. His vandalism will not be ignored. Eriba-Marduk (talk) 09:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: After that he made another attempt and claimed that "GAZ-GL1 never entered production, Lada Niva depicted on previous edit is not 1977 model and so on. Before changing you must make sure the information is correct", despite the fact that he doesn't know what information is correct and is trying to delete almost every photo of a clean and original car that I have posted. The GAZ-GL1 was built and even set a speed record on September 22, 1940, which was a notable achievement for the Soviet automotive industry in general (see: Весна в стиле ретро // За рулём, вып. 8, 2010). Eriba-Marduk (talk) 14:44, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Somebody slapped an abstract from his class paper into wikipedia. Data is wrong (GM Uzbekistan, UzDaewooAuto and others appeared LONG after the collapse of the USSR), information is VERY wrong (somehow it appears that GAZ and VAZ appeared almost simultaneously while they are actually 60 years apart), the language is terrible. Will try to fix it as much as I can. 
And I really like this part:
"The automobile industry in the Soviet Union is unique amongst automobile industries in the world. Until the October Revolution, very few Russians could afford cars."
SO DID THE WHOLE WORLD! And it didn't change much for the Soviets even AFTER the Revolution.
Leo711 (talk) 04:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slapdash article 

message: The article features a very Russian-like English. It has to be edited to be more readable for a native English speaker.
schmalter--81.18.114.15 (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Strongly disagree. I don't think it was written by a Russian. It's just bad English, full stop. Leo711 (talk) 04:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language issues 

message: This article is claiming that most of the cars in Russia prior to the USSR were owned by the royal family. That must be absolutely false. In such a vast country with big population like Russia, there was a sizeable number of rich people who could easily afford cars. --B. Jankuloski (talk) 06:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not entirely incorrect. There WERE some rich people in Russia, but most of them didn't care about cars. Cars were viewed as smokey stinky noise-mobiles, not things of prestige. So while many people COULD buy themselves a car, very few actually did. So in that aspect, it's true - most of the cars in pre-USSR Russia belonged to the Tzar family. Leo (talk) 05:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Car ownership

message: Surely the latter is supposed to be "Volga"... DubZog (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. GAZ was the name of the plant, "Volga" was the car it manufactured. Example - Dodge is a brand. Viper is the name of the model. Leo711 (talk) 09:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gaz aka Gaz

message: What measuring system did the Soviets use? I couldn't find it at USSR, I also couldn't find it at China. It should be here, shouldn't it? What was used when?
My question was: Soviets knock off US trucks, SAE or Metric? Chinese license build the Soviet trucks, SAE or metric?
Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 15:58, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAE (US), metric, or? 

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message: The page has been improved recently, but I believe that in the 'Postwar' section we should have used a modern secondary source instead of the old declassified CIA report, as the latter was compiled a long ago, when the authors had no access to Soviet archives and had very limited knowledge on the subject matter, contains inaccuracies not supported by any evidence and being at odds with established facts and modern publications. For example, the postwar section erroneously claims: "Much of this extensive growth was sustained by the import of Western technology". This, however, is true for the prewar period, but there is obviously no evidence for such import in 1945-1950, except for the German reparations, in the beginning of the Cold War. It goes on to add: "US truck and engine designs acquired through the Lend-Lease program were used to establish the postwar generation of vehicles", but that is plain wrong, as the US trucks made up only a minor part of Soviet postwar vehicles, most of them were sent back to Western countries in 1946-1947, and the only postwar Soviet engine based on an American design was the YaAZ-204; all other US engines were acquired in the prewar period, again. The claim is apparently incorrect and highly marginal. Neither modern authors like Andy Thompson, who study Soviet automotive industry, nor any other evidence agree with the statements cited above. I think it would be better to replace those two problematic claims with some reliable information taken from modern scholarly works. AutoHistory (talk) 13:49, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old CIA report as a source