Talk:Kamikaze/Archive 1

message: I have just added this section, if there are any problems, please post here and wait for my response before just deleting it...remember that it did take some time to write. As of now, the section only has two references, but I would like to do some cross-referencing...its like 12:20 am where I am, so I'm too tired to do that now...help would be appreciated. --KSL 04:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Training and attacking section added 

message: Perhaps also Taran and Davy Crockett (nuclear device) should be mentioned. Like Selbstopfer it isn't certain death, but very risky. // Liftarn
If the Davy Crockett (nuclear device) is related then we should say why in the Davy Crockett article. How dangerous is it. How dangerous is the  Special Atomic Demolition Munition? --Gbleem 16:08, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taran and Davy Crockett 

message: "No US aircraft carriers . . .  were . . . severely damaged by kamikazes at Okinawa . . ."  Not true.  The USS Bunker Hill (CV-17), was knocked out of the war and never returned to service as an aircraft carrier.  The authority cited for this claim refers only to ships sunk, not those damaged.  And by any usage of the term the Bunker Hill was severely damaged, perhaps moreso than any other US carrier not actually sunk other than USS Franklin (CV-13).  Anyone disagree?  Kablammo 03:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Correction made. Kablammo 18:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Main Wave-- damage to major ships 

message: This is not "the Wikipedia", but "the English-language Wikipedia". So English terminology should be used.
However, if kamikaze (かみかぜ) is primarily used in Japanese to refer to weather (Mongols, typhoons) that is interesting and should be noted in the etymology section. We might even start an article on the Mongol typhoons, and link to it from kamikaze.
But we also need an article on the Japanese suicide attack planes, the men who piloted them, their tactics, their success rate, how it impacted US Naval shipping, etc. 
Like it or not kamikaze has made its way into the English language with a meaning perhaps different from the "true Japanese meaning". That's just the way it goes. The word pollyanna is a distortion of the attitude of the little girl in the story Pollyanna: her optimism was healthy, it healed a family and inspired an entire town; the word is used to mean someone with unrealistic optimism - nearly an antonym of the character's real mood.
I'd like to move the current intro down to the Etymology section, and describe kamikaze as Japanese suicide bombers of World War II. Uncle Ed 13:02, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
:Oh, one more thing. There is a chance that I harbor unconscious bias. My grandfather co-founded the company whose planes shot down innumerable Japanese planes during the war. Perhaps this makes me veer too much to the American military side of things, so please caution me if I make a mistake. Thanks! Uncle Ed 13:04, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
::Ed, even though I started the kamikaze (typhoon) page, I disagree with the suggestion because there is widespread awareness and usage of kamikaze, by English language speakers, to refer to the typhoon, even if this is secondary to the main usage. We have to write for all English speakers, not just people in the US, Australia, etc.  Grant65 (Talk) 13:53, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
We might need a kamikaze (disambiguation) page, or a top link to kamikaze (typhoon). By the way, does kamikaze simply mean "typhoon", or is there a particular type of typhoon known as kamikaze? Uncle Ed 16:37, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
:Kamikaze (神風) means literally "Divene wind" in english. The meaning's of the Kanji are 神 = god, spririt, soul, mind etc. 風 = wind, air, style, manner. In Japan KAmikaze basicly refers to the storm, or series of storms that sunk the mongolian invasion fleet (well, most of it) and other similar storms that happened later. They used Kamikaze to refer to the suicide attacks UNOFFICIALLY, since japanese didn't want to actually refer to them as suicides. Also they saw the pilots and their planes as the divine wind that would sunk the american fleet just like the storm had sunk the mongolian fleet. The japanese word for Typhoon itself is Taifuun. --Ningyou 07:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just without the 'n' on the end. ;o) ShizuokaSensei 08:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese and English usage 

message: Ought it to be noted that nearly all americans butcher the pronunciation of the word, making it more like kamakazi or kamekazi? The karaoke article has such a mention.
: So those pronunciations are incorrect? :-) That makes me wonder if it isn't all English speakers who mispronounce it? You would need to show the correct pronunciation using International Phonetic Alphabet symbols. Grant65 | Talk 02:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The English pronunciations of it aren't incorrect, but they are different.  "Kamikaze" came recently into the English language from Japanese, and is still associated with Japan, so I think it's worth noting the differences in IPA. --Galaxiaad 17:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the English word, not the Japanese word.  It is true that it is a Japanese term, but has passed into the English language.  Many other words, including proper nouns, have passed into English, are are pronounced by English-speakers in ways which may make speakers of the language from which the term came wince.  But once the word had been adopted (as this one has) its pronunciation used by speakers of the new language is not "incorrect".  ShizuokaSensei said it very well above; the point is restated now because of a recent edit. Kablammo 12:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The English pronunciation is indeed wrong. Very, very wrong. The Japanese language does not swap vowel tones in and out like English does, so a native speaker reading a Japanese word is going to assume by cognitive bias that pronunciation rules are similar to that of English. 74.242.99.247 11:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Someone added material about a band to the bottom of the article. I was going to move it to a separate article but a Google search came up with nothing about the band. Which leads me to think that it's a hoax, as they are supposed to have released a CD. Grant65 | Talk 02:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supposed Danish jazz fusion band 

message: Why there is no mention of the 9/11 kamikaze? Also, there was a kamikaze attack against US Navy invasion ships in Lebanon in 1982 using explosives-laden general aviation airplanes. The attack on USS Cole was also kamikaze. A warship is always a legitimate target. 195.70.32.136 09:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In English, at least, the word kamikaze is usually used only for the attacks by Japanese military pilots during 1944-45, although as the introduction notes, it is sometimes used as a synecdoche for suicide attacks in general. However, it is rare to hear the word used in relation to suicide attacks in general. Grant65 | Talk 11:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post-WWII kamikaze omitted, why? 

message: This section needs a little work.  It gives too much emphasis to the Battle of Midway as a cause of IJN pilot losses.  While that battle undoubedly was the turning point in the war, it was but one element in the battle of attrition which eventually made IJN aircrew losses unsustainable.  Of equal or greater importance were the airwar over the Southwest Pacific which eventually broke the strength of the IJN forces then land-based at Rabaul, and especially the Marianas Turkey Shoot which virtually eradicated the IJN's remaining carrier aircrews.  Which brings us the the next point:  the plane most responsible for the Marianas victories was the F6F Hellcat.  Two contributors have changed Hellcat references to the P-51 Mustang.  While the Mustang was a very effective airplane, it was not deployed to the Pacific in any numbers until late in 1944, after the IJN pilots had been defeated by Navy and Marine pilots in F4U Corsairs and Hellcats (not to mention Kiwis in P-40s, USAAF Fifth Air Force pilots in P-38s, etc).  Therefore I have changed it back; if there is some authority for the proposition that the Mustang was a substantial factor in the air war which led the Japanese to turn to kamikazes, lets discuss it here.  Kablammo 04:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The other matters discussed in the first section of the above post have now been made.  Kablammo 21:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: Has anyone ever heard of this:
"In theory, Japanese kamikaze pilots were to commit seppuku in the last few seconds before crashing their planes into American ships. I kind of have my doubts about how often it was actually done - even when the knife is worn hanging in a sheathe around your neck, I'd imagine it would be kind of tough to pull it out and disembowel yourself while trying to accurately target a ship that's blasting all of it's anti-aircraft weaponry at you. (...) The procedure was to pull the knife out from it's neck sheath and thrust it straight into the throat much like the womans form of seppuku." 
http://therionarms.com/sold/com195.html
--Felix c 18:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is completely incorrect. The Kamikaze Pilot's Manual said to keep your eyes open while on the final dive in order to not miss your target and to yell "Hissatsu." Also, in order to keep on target, the pilot would have to push forward in order for the plane to not pull up due to the lift of the wings (much more lift would occur because of the speed of the plane). Therefore, the idea of commiting seppuku in the last few seconds makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. --68.239.138.139 00:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamikaze Tanto Knife 

message: Interesting article. I run into it trying to know if an assertion I found in a magazine ("14% of kamikaze pilots survived their suicide attacks") was true or not. Does anyone know something about it? Perhaps the survivors didn't attack at all, but were escort pilots of the same units?
--Ignacio González 08:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survivors 

message: I just discovered this article. It seems to be a big mess of information relating to people involved in Kamikaze attacks. Could somebody more familiar with the topic take a look at it, merge any relevant/useful information into this article, and then delete it? Bobo12345 01:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like an excellent idea.Grant65 | Talk 02:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Personnel involved in the development of World War II suicide attacks]] 

message: The following line seems to be an instance of grafitti: "According to legend, all kamikazees were faggots. " If this line is meant to be accurate, in that kamikaze pilots were said to be homosexual, then the line should be edited to "...all kamikazees were homesexuals." Faggot is offensive and confusing (different uses in British v. American English).
amagidow
: It was idiotic vandalism that should be reverted immediately... Don't be too confused with it... :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 18:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grafitti 

message: (eat sushi) (特別攻撃隊), which literally means "special sushi unit
who the heck wrote this crap? I didn't know that 特別攻撃隊 can be translated as sushi?
I am deleting this idiodic piece of junk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.81.251.163 (talk) 05:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sushi 

message: See part 1 above: Talk:Kamikaze#Korean_kamikaze_pilots.3F_.28Part_1.29
There have been a number of unexplained removals of sourced text indicating that at least one conscripted Korean was a kamikaze pilot.  These removals come from a number of different IPs in Japan, and none are accompanied by discussion or an edit summary.
Some time ago the following text was added:
An unknown number of these pilots were Koreans with Japanese names, adopted under the pre-war Soshi-kaimei ordinance that compelled Koreans to take Japanese personal names.
Cited was: 
The sentence was removed a number of times.  I redrafted the sentence to read as follows:
At least one of these pilots was a conscripted Korean with a Japanese name, adopted under the pre-war Soshi-kaimei ordinance that compelled Koreans to take Japanese personal names.
This too has been removed.  In each case the original cite is allowed to remain, and then appears to be the source for the previous sentence, which it is not.  A number of editors have been reverting the removals.  The point is adequately sourced.  Although not the most important fact, it is germane, and should not be removed again without discussion.  Kablammo 15:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean Kamikaze pilots (part 2) 

message: I think I would interesting to note how effective kamikaze bombings were from a military perspective.  For example, let say if 100 total pilots attacked, and 10% hit, and each killed 500 people (obviously my numbers are greatly skewed), then the kamikaze's would have been a successful military tactic (provided the cost of their aircraft did not outweigh this loss of life).  At least some sentence, if not a section, should be included in the article about its effectiveness, because that is one of the main questions that comes to my mind.
:See Kamikaze#Effects. Grant65 | Talk 02:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effectiveness of Kamikaze Pilots 

message: I don't think it's quite clear which parts are quoted from Irokawa Daikichi. Could the person who added the quote, or someone else who has access to the source, please rectify this? Thank you. LordAmeth 16:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irokawa Daikichi 

message: Please include the information that the headband is called a hachimaki into the article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.64.169.14 (talk) 11:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headband called hachimaki 

message: It appears to me that this photograph was doctored. It looks, when viewed at full size, to be a composite picture. The edges around the girls arms are too crisp and too sharp and, likewise, the officer to the left who salutes the pilot appears to have been cropped in.
What do the rest of you think?
Regards,
James R. Mireles
Houston, Texas
:It does look weird.  We might should submit this photo to the image peer review forum (I'll have to find the link) to see what they say. Cla68 (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it has been forged during the war, still the interesting material. Just need to know. Audriusa (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chiran High School Girls Farewell Picture Doctored or Manufactured? 

message: I've reverted 189.140.181.60's [ addition] of the following text to the beginning of the "Definition and etymology" section, since it wasn't very well integrated with the rest of the text and in any case wasn't referenced nor in a neutral tone:
:honorable man who fought until the end, wishing to do one final effort and die rather than live as a dishonorable man
That said, I figured that, since it was probably added in good faith, I should move it here to this talk page — rather than just removing it entirely — just in case someone else might find it worth properly integrating into the article, with appropriate attribution for the viewpoint expressed therein.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted addition 

message: The statement "The Japanese themselves did not use the word Kamikaze to refer to these World War II attacks" is too sweeping and needs to be sourced (and probably modified).  This page says "Although Shinpu was the official name given to the first unit formed in the Philippines in October 1944, people in Japan both during and after the war frequently read the two kanji as 'kamikaze.' The pronunciation 'kamikaze' was used frequently to refer to the 'divine wind' that destroyed the Kublai Khan's Mongol fleets invading Japan in 1281, so this pronunciation was the most familiar one to Japanese people." Languagehat (talk) 21:09, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made the appropriate changes based on the Japanese version of the article and on the discussion in this Languagehat thread. Languagehat (talk) 18:04, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I removed the "citation needed" tag. It is basic japanese language knowledge that "kamikaze" is the basic pronunciation which would be easily known to laymen, while "shinpu" is the more sophisticated pronunciation. No citation is needed for this statement and this statement is irrefutable. (i.e. To say otherwise would be a factual error.) Languagehat (link above) has some interesting discussion if you're interested. --Mizst (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree that the etymology section is rather convoluted. However, I believe the section is fundamentally correct in spirit because normally the unit would be referred to as simply "special attack unit". The misread term kamikaze is more widespread and even got reimported into Japan. In this sense the "official" name is nothing more than just something in some historical document, which is rightly mentioned only in passing in the article. --Mizst (talk) 20:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamikaze vs. Shinpu 

message: Deleted the entire section, it was all a bizarre reference to Worm Armageddon and was very amateurish. If anyone wants to put in a well written and referenced Popular Culture section they can go ahead. 86.40.182.161 (talk) 19:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture 

message: Would it be good to mention Kamikaze is used a weapon/ability in Worms, As a Comedic prop, They even wear a (Forgot the name of the Headband) And scream 'KAMIKAZE' While plundgeing into whatever's in its way and exploding.
I suppose it could show it is used for other things, E.G. Comedy.  NekoKiyo (talk) 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, wikipedia has enough bias towards popular culture as it is 86.43.166.254 (talk) 19:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm greatly disappointed that after reading this well-documented article on what is a serious series of event in world history, I come to the talk page and somebody seems more interested in some reference to some video game.  I guess I'm just a stick in the mud.  --C S (talk) 00:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worms 

message: This section is woefully misleading and feeds into common stereotypes of zealous Japanese samurai eager to die for a cause.  If you read the interviews of kamikaze survivors, the picture painted is drastically different.  "Volunteering" was far from a free choice.  In many cases, "volunteers" were coerced to join.  Societally, they were forced to feel that they were bringing great shame upon their families if they did not "volunteer".  Those who refused to "volunteer" were beat up.  The ones that survived because their missions were aborted or the war ended before they could suicide, say they felt a great shame that still lingers even today.
The section needs to be entirely rewritten.  Currently it gives the impression that those in charge were pleasantly surprised, "oh, wow, we have so many volunteers", when the reality is more like they knew very well how to manipulate the young men in their care to do their bidding.  --C S (talk) 00:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've read, it depended on the situation.  Some flight student classes were given a chance to volunteer, and between 30% and 60% did so, depending on the class, without fear of recrimination.  In other cases, however, it's clear that pilots were pressured into volunteering as you mention above.  In fact, I read somewhere that one pilot who was forced to volunteer strafed the airfield tower and flight operations building after taking off, where presumably his superiors were watching the takeoffs of the kamikaze aircraft, before flying off to complete his mission. Cla68 (talk) 02:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recruitment 

message: This article seems to give too much importance on the the historical text of the Seconded World War,granted that it is important but, academically incorrect some more importance needs to be given on its Origin and its its influence on Sociological and Political areas. I mean the whole page just goes on and on about tokubetsu kōgeki tai and not Kamikaze. --XChile (talk) 13:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well Written? 

message: My great great grandfather was a kamikaze...and before he went out to fulfill his duty, he wrote a letter to my great great grandmother...
My father still remembers that letter very well, because my grandmother was given the letter from my great great grandmother before she died...the letter goes like this:
"Just like any human being, I have only but one life to give, and my time is very short...I go off to my mission 2 days from today. I cannot tell you how nervous I am, but I also cannot tell you how excited I am to sacrifice my life for the Emperor. We recently had a child, but I was not able to be there for him as much. Give that child all your love, and remember to tell him that his father loved him very much, but had a important business to take care of. I love you. And may the Emperor riegn for eternity."
Yep...thats what the letter said...RIP grandpa, I'm sharing this, because I think its quite interesting.
* The B29 Superfortress which delivered the atomic bombs were strategic aircraft, designed for deep penetration behind enemy lines to strike industrial targets.  The lone kamikaze which struck a lone allied warship were tactical aircraft used for that particular battle, Okinawa in this case.  If a writer wishes to avoid making himself look foolish, then he should "brush-up" on his military history and terminology, know what he's talking about before making comments, other wise he is simply advertising his ignorance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.196.64.56 (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  My great great grandfather 

message: I think the German part of the Quotation is not perfectly correct. Instead of "Zwei Seelen wohnen auch in mein[em] Herz!!" it should be "Zwei Seelen wohnen ach! in meiner Brust" which is from Goethes probably most famous Drama "Faust".213.168.124.162 (talk) 09:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation of Sasaki Hachiro 

message: Shouldn't the article emphasize more clearly that kamikazes were a likely inspiration for many mass homicide/suicide/terrorist missions since?  And probably all of the ones involving planes, particularly the likely attribution to the September 11, 2001 attacks.Hoops gza (talk) 14:57, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if people can provide reliable, published sources that clearly show such a link. -- saberwyn 21:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence in the years since 

message: "In English, the word kamikaze may also be used in a hyperbolic or metaphorical fashion to refer to non-fatal actions which result in significant loss for the attacker, such as injury or the end of a career."
The above statements says kamikaze refers to non fatal actions. I am confused as i think it should say "fatal actions".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkyzealous1 (talk • contribs) 09:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  kamikaze refers to fatal or non fatal actions? 

message: The last two quotations are from the same person, but the first and last part of the name are swapped between the two. I know nothing about the structure of Japanese names, but shouldn't one variation be chosen and used on both? Ladenzor (talk) 02:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qoutes by Hayashi Ichizo/Ichizo Hayashi 

message: The pronunciation in the audio sounds odd to me. It almost sounds like there's a pitch accent on the first syllable, though in reality this word clearly has pitch accent on the second syllable: kamiꜜkaze, at least in my Kanto (eastern, Tokyo area) Japanese. Does anyone know about the source of the audio? Otherwise, I may record a new one. mitcho (talk) 01:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation in "listen" audio 

message: In G-8 and His Battle Aces #2 (November 1933) "Purple Aces" (set in WWI) there is a German death cult where pilots deliberately fly without any fear of death and where they deliberately sacrifice themselves and their Fokker planes to destroy important Allied targets.(84.236.152.71 (talk) 17:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: My opinion is that this is not sufficiently relevant to be mentioned in the article. It's not culturally of great significance and it almost certainly did not influence the Japanese kamikaze tactics in an yway. --Yaush (talk) 20:26, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Fictional story about German Kamikaze pilots

message: Just added some info, fixed a broken link.etc Last time I read the article was in 2010 and it was a stub. In the past years the article have improved greatly in content, sources, photos and militaria details. Good Job! Congratulations to all editors.Mr.User200 (talk) 22:27, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the article. 

message: I know that the Kamikaze pilots were usually given crystal meth (invented by the Japanese) just before they boarded their flights (or perhaps also took it while in-flight) to lengthen their flight time/make them more alert, but there is no mention of the use of crystal meth/drugs in this article, and I am not an expert on Kamikaze pilots.  Perhaps somebody who knows this subject can insert this interesting aspect of Kamikaza pilots.  Thanks in advance.Betathetapi545 (talk) 14:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crystal meth (methamphetamine) taken by Kamikaze pilots 

message: It would be useful to have some explanation of whether the general tactical procedures of kamikaze attacks ( e.g. formations, methods of approach, number of aircraft employed etc.) were the same as those employed in conventional attacks.  From the current article, it appears that kamikaze attacks deliberately targeted picket destroyers.  Was this target priority ever used in conventional air attacks?   Were there reasons why aircraft making kamikaze attacks were more difficult to detect and intercept at long ranges than those making conventional attacks? Tashiro~enwiki (talk) 04:24, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison of tactics to those of conventional attacks? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'm looking for "The Last Letter" by a kamikaze pilot whose name starts with an R, and has some odd letters. Benjamin (talk) 04:49, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Last Letter 

message: This article is somewhat garbled.  For example, it seems to say in the first paragraph that a kamikaze attack was conducted during the attack on Pearl Harbor (on 7 December 1941), but in the third paragraph states, "These attacks, which began in October 1944,". You need to distinguish between a single aviator who, with his own death imminent, decided independently to make the most of his death by making a ramming attack at Pearl Harbor, versus the programs that were created for, and the operations that were designed as, ramming attacks.  I think you have gotten confused by the several usages of the word kamikaze.  Kabocha (talk) 14:32, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and prior version restored.  Pearl Harbor was not a kamikaze attack.  Kablammo (talk) 16:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  More editing needed. 

message: Thank you for the edit, Kablammo.
This article is still badly garbled, and that is partly because Western historians/writers have not understood that "Kamikaze" (the special attack pilot/unit/tactic/program, take your pick as to what the word signifies) is basically limited to certain Japanese Navy air operations using the "special attack" tactic.  It should not be applied to, and as far as knowledgeable Japanese are concerned, does not apply to Japanese Army special attack air operations. 
As a general proposition, the Japanese prefer the more inclusive term "tokubetsu kōgeki" and its abbreviation, "tokkō" to the more limited term "Kamikaze".  A book called Kamikaze Tokubetsu Kōgekitai, Model Art Number 458, Model Art Co., Ltd., (1995) deals exclusively with certain aerial attack missions by the Japanese Navy.  It contains nothing about Japanese Army air special attacks.  That publisher dealt with Japanese Army air special attacks separately.
Consequently, from the Japanese point of view, your illustration of a Japanese Army Ki-43 taking off at Chiran Air Base, which was mainly a Japanese Army installation, is incorrectly shown here. The Japanese Army air special attacks are not "kamikaze", but they do qualify as special attacks (tokubetsu kōgeki).
Which do you want to discuss in this article, a limited group of navy special attacks by air, or the broader topic of Japanese air-to-surface special attack?  
I will check this site again in a week. Kabocha (talk) 00:22, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still a muddle, partly because of combining navy and army air special attack. 

message: In the Quotations section Ichizo Hayashi refers to how he "cannot help crying when [he thinks] of you, Mum". This is the British form, of course, but there is no guideline as to whether the article is in British or American English. Please correct me, of course, if this is simply how it translates. Wodgester (talk) 17:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I see instances of both "armor" and "armour".  The first instance I find of "defence" was in 2005; there then was no use of "defense".  So it looks like British (Aussie?) English was used first, but current usage is inconsistent. Kablammo (talk) 20:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mum vs Mom