Talk:Guntram

message: Amending my former post of "bold raven"  to "war raven." gun= war in norse, chramn= raven in old frankish. cheers.
24.102.211.198 (talk) 03:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Meaning

message: Given the number of variant spellings for almost all names in this period, a little name confusion is understandable.  In this case the article was pointing to the modern town of of Brunehaut, not the person meant (Brunhilda of Austrasia; going through a couple of the cross-links here on Wikipedia should be sufficient to show that she is indeed the proper person).
At any rate, to reduce confusion among people seeing different spellings in other sources, would it be a good idea to mention alternate spellings of the name in the respective entry?--Rindis 07:04, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is a Wikipedia policy to mention variant spellings in the first line (if there is a reasonably small number of them). And I think there are a lot of links pointing to some Brunhilda or another...it seems like every Germanic woman had that name at this period! Adam Bishop 07:42, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: Is the opera about Guntram? Srnec 18:31, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Opera

message: The article resided happily at Guntram for a long time until somebody got into a dispute over whether he should be called a "saint". Now the page has a grammatically incorrect title which is inconsistent with the titles of so many other saints and all other Merovingian kings, which are titled simply by their name and ordinal: so, Guntram (what other Guntram is their?). Srnec 04:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There however is the opera "Guntram", wherefore we need a disambiguation page anyway. And Guntram is a male first name, such tend to have a page where some etymology and some list of notable namesakes reported. Kings tend to be under format FIRSTNAME(S) + ORDNAL + OF + KINGDOM whoch would be Guntram of Burgundy in this case. I favor that as the new location for this article. Marrtel 12:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree with Srnec, he is the only noteworthy :Guntram, his contemporary :Guntram-Boso being easily distinguished. "Pre-emptively disambiguate the names of monarchs, of modern countries" can hardly apply here as Burgundy is not a modern country and disambiguation is not required. Strauss's opera is :Guntram (opera), or would be if there were an article on it. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 13:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Support. Move back to Guntram. --Matthead 22:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Support. I support Smec; why not just change it back to "Saint Guntram"?. DominvsVobiscvm 04:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Support per rationale about kingdoms. Marrtel was correct about naming conventions, but if there's ambiguity, Srnec's option works. Irrespective of that, "Saint" should note be in the article name, just as "Sir" and equivalent titles aren't. Jibbajabba 23:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

text: So, can somebody with the proper powers move this page to "Guntram" again? Srnec 18:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, but someone with more time than me will have to fix the redirects. Adam Bishop 05:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Nightstallion (?) 08:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: He had something of that fraternal love which his brothers lacked and the preeminent chronicler of the period
That is some really strange wording, not sure how to fix it, just really wish it were fixed.
--Cthugha (talk) 23:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange wording 

message: the second half of this section has a weirdly lofty and romantic tone to it. it reads like it was written by a Christian, pro-guntram person. in fact it has striking similarity to the quote presented above it. so either this was copy pasted from a source that the editor failed to cite properly, or they wrote it in this biased tone themself. either way, it should be reworked.
IAmSeamonkey (talk) 10:58, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life Section