Talk:Monmouth Rebellion

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:The battle of Sedgemoor is often referred to as the last battle fought on English soil, but this is incorrect: the Battle of Preston in Lancashire was fought on 14 November 1715, during the First Jacobite Rebellion, and the Second Jacobite Rebellion saw a minor engagement at Clifton Moor near Penrith in Cumbria on 18 December 1745.
It was not the last engagement fought on English soil but did either of the other two count as pitched battles? If not then if Sedgemoor was a pitched battle, it was the last pitched battle fought on English soil. 
See: 
* wiktionary battle: Pitched battle = one in which the armies are previously drawn up in form, with a regular disposition of the forces.
* First English Civil War#Second Newbury where a distinction is made between manoeuvre-battle and pitched-battle in text from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica.
* Free Dictionary: pitched battles
-- 217.169.14.140 11:20, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Pitched Battle

message: Perhaps this is some British term that I am unfamiliar with, but dissolving parliament sounds rather intense.
:Charles outmanoeuvred his opponents and dissolved Parliament for the final time.
The above quote, from the article, makes it sound as though Parliament was gotten rid of. However, this obviously cannot be true. Would someone please explain this? Atinoda 22:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See dissolution of Parliament. -- ALoan (Talk) 23:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dissolving Parliament

message: Did the Duke of Monmouth ever claim that his parents had been secretly married, or did he attempt to gain the thrown despite his illigetimacy? (There would of course have been precedent for a bastard king.) --Jfruh (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Does the biography section of James Scott, 1st Duke of Monmouth explain the claims and uncertainty relating to his parenthood?— Rod talk 19:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, actually, my curiosity was piqued by the line in the Lucy Walter article, "There is little evidence to support the story that she was the first wife of Charles II..." There is no mention of where this "story" comes from, but obviously the Duke of Monmouth would be a logical person to spread it.  I was just curious if he even made a pro forma claim of being legitimate in his bid for the throne -- if he felt a need to assert a secret marriage between his parents even if neither he nor anyone else really believed it -- or if he and/or his supporters thought it possible he could claim the throne while acknowledging his illegitimacy. --Jfruh (talk) 20:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  (il)legitimacy 

message: It says at the beginning that The Monmouth Rebellion of 1685, was an attempt to overthrow James II, who had become King of England, King of Scots and King of Ireland at the death of his elder brother Charles II on 6 February 1685. It says That Charles II was his brother and became king at his death. Then later on down it says that Charles II was his Father. Also it says that Charles was a Roman Catholic , then it says further down that he was a protestent.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.41.147 (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation of your comment. I would suggest issues about whether James II became king should be discussed at James II of England where it is clearly stated & supported by several references. The way I read it is that Charles II of England was the brother of James II & the father of James Scott, 1st Duke of Monmouth. I also read it as saying James II was Catholic and that Monmouth was protestant. If you don't read it that way it may mean that the text needs to be clarified - could you say exactly where you think the inaccuracies are?— Rod talk 20:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Things.  

message: I've rated this article as only being of 'Low' importance to the Dorset WikiProject, as the Rebellion was more associated with Somerset (and that WikiProject rates it as 'Mid'); however I can see a rationale for also rating it as 'Mid', as Monmouth's plight seems to intertwine in the history of much of west Dorset in particular. Comments welcome... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:16, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Dorset WikiProject assessments

message: Is there really not a better picture than that for the infobox? ---Brigade Piron (talk) 14:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It may help if you give more of an explanation as to why you find it unsatisfactory. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 14:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't take this the wrong way. There's certainly nothing wrong with the picture or its relevence. I simply question whether a more interesting one could not be found, especially considering that it is the first bit of the article the casual observer sees. I would compare it with the pictures in the boxes of Napoleonic War or War of the Austrian Succession. Could the painting of Monmouth below or one of the others substitute like this File:James Scott, Duke of Monmouth and Buccleuch by Jan van Wyck.jpg ? ---Brigade Piron (talk) 15:46, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've switched the pictures around - is that better?— Rod talk 17:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Rod, much more engaging! ---Brigade Piron (talk) 17:22, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is rather more lively, and gives an impression of battle, nobility and an element of darkness, which is apt. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 17:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

text: I have replaced it as I think it is inappropriate to use an image of the Anglo-Dutch war to represent Sedgemoor.— Rod talk 17:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

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message: Should John Churchill and Henry Fitzroy not be listed under their titles at the time of the rebellion?  Fitzroy was Duke of Grafton and Churchill was Lord Churchill of Sandridge and Eyemouth. Dunarc (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
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message: I have just read a short story by Thomas Hardy (would such a text be called thus?), "The Duke's Reappearance - A Family Tradition", which is published in his Collected Works, Subsection "A Changed Man and other Tales". It clearly deals with the events shortly before the end of the battle and Monmouth's beheading in the Tower, but I am too unfamiliar with the historical facts and the details of the story to write about it all here. However, I find the story noteworthy and worth referring to here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heming1Way (talk • contribs) 23:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Literary references