Talk:MDK2

message: Regarding the name... First off, in the original game wasn't the robot dog known as "Bones"? If that's true, as I think it is, then MDK couldn't stand for Max, Doc, Kurt.  Secondly, there was a lot of interest when the original game came out regarding what MDK stood for. The folks at Shiny entertainment made quite a lot of this; they alternatively said it stood for nothing or that it stood for various things. It was quite a big joke (on the public, by them). Further, when MDK2 came out, BioWare continued having fun with this; they too offered various explanations, including that it stood for nothing at all. So, who "generally accepted" the Max-Doc-Kurt definition? Gregmg 04:54, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Most of the information in the article comes straight from the game; either from in the game or from the game insert. What's the proper format for citing the game itself as the source for these facts? Gregmg 14:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: I liked the plot being written out, but found it was a drag to read, so I split it up into several sections/chapters, also I added a link for the MDK3 petition added on from MDKs' article page. --Fr3k3r 20:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feel free to edit plot again 

message: The article for MDK has a brilliant indepth written meaning of what MDK could possibly mean, is there any reason for a similar Name origin paragraph here?
Isn't it better just to say that the name stands for each first inital of the protaganists?
Also, yes, I believe Maxs' original name was Bones. Maybe this was just a codename for him as a biological weapon.--Fr3k3r 20:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly MDK stands for has been the subject of much speculation since the release of the first game. After the release of MDK2, the folks at BioWare had a lot of fun playing with this issue. I believe it merits some mention, but feel free to move or revise this section. Also, I don't believe you can say that it stands for the initials of the protaganists since no one at Shiny or BioWare has ever stated this. There are a variety of definitions for this initialism, but none have every been confirmed as correct by the folks who made the game(s). Gregmg 15:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does 'The Name' section have to be here? 

message: There has been interest on this article and elsewhere to include links to online petitions for new releases of games. I have removed several because these links don't appear to pass muster with the External links guide. Here is my rational.
:-These links add no value to the article. Per the External links guide, links should be kept at a minimum and be meritable.  The guide also mentions the need for linked sites to provide meaningful, relevant content.  I don't believe a petition has any content that could be considered meaninful or meritable.
:-While petition links are not specifically mentioned in the External links guide, item #10 under the Links normally to be avoided does mention social networking sites and discussion forums. A Usenet group will likely have far more meaninful, relevant, and meritable information than a petition, and if that doesn't pass muster, than neither does a petition.
:-Item #13 in the same section discusses pages that are directly related to the article subject versus those that are indirectly related. A petition link does not seem to be symmetrically related to the game in question.
:-I believe that the inclusion of a link to a petition goes against the spirit of the policy on Conflicts of interest. I don't want to speculate on the motivations of other Wikipedians, but I do believe there's the possibility that others may be including such links not out of an interest in providing meaningful, relevant information to the user, but instead to promote the creation of a new version of the game in question.
:-Finally, I don't believe that a petition passes muster on the Longevity test. Petitions come and go, and I'm not sure that such a link will be available for the forseeable future.
Please review the External links guide carefully and discuss further here.
Gregmg 16:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a conflict between this style guide and any other?  If so, we should encourage the larger community to resolve this. At the moment, I can't find anything relevant to our previous discussion. Gregmg 15:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petition links 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computer_and_video_games#Style this should be read, as this is FAR more relevant to this Article.--Fr3k3r 18:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a conflict between this style guide and any other?  If so, we should encourage the larger community to resolve this. At the moment, I can't find anything relevant to our previous discussion. Gregmg 15:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia rules of content?!

message: *I would like to see; with a LOT of help, this page unbiased and fit for newcomers and fans. Its also coming up to MDKs 10th anniversary next year. I don't want to fall out with anybody here, but with the current warning of 'original research' heading on the MDK2 page, I think that Wikipedia have more to worry about then one 'community' link.
::All in all the article isn't in such bad shape. I think all of the main points are covered. Your edits have helped a great deal. I have been concerned however about some of the glowing language in the article (and that isn't directed at your edits necessarily). It's actually a common problem in game related articles. We are all so accustomed to reading fan and game websites, and game magazines, that we tend to write in the same style. As time permits, I'll make some minor revisions to make it read better. Gregmg 16:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: To clean up

message: If someone was to clean up the plot section and condense it into one section, not a broken up level by level thing, it would be far, far more effective and less ameaturish. Also, eliminating/getting the REAL level names would help. Fluke 21:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: The recent edits by an anonymous contributor have taken the article further away from an encyclopedia format. I'm loathe to revert these edits, because some good information has been added. We really need to clean up this article. I'll try to find the time to do so later, but please, if you are editing this article, please adhere to the various wikipedia style guides. You might want to start here. Thanks! Gregmg 15:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is an encyclopedia 

message: Something interestingthis is the site of the designer of the offical MDK2 website for Bioware...
If you look further down, there a screenshot be.
Here be the screenshot on the page
Maybe theres some valid information about MDK2 that got removed for the smaller Bioware MDK2 section. Maybe its worth asking the author of the content of the site...anyone want to follow up?
The author does allow special requests for the site to be sent...--Fr3k3r 06:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longshot 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:MDK2 Packshot.jpeg

message: Considering this is a silly question, I chose to remain anonymous. Ok. Now, I want to know (I can't remember exactly) how did the doc called Max, something like "Whoppy poppy dingy doggie"? I'm doing a silly joke with my friends and I want to know that silly sentence... If anybody cares...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.114.94.21 (talk) 00:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question 

message: I am not sure it was a good idea to split those sections.  The fact there are three characters isn't particularly interesting, but it's the fact that the gameplay varies with them that makes it noteworthy.  The new version is clunkier even after I've tidied the structure.  Mezigue (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I split the sections largely because I couldn't find another good article that combined the characters and gameplay sections. It was mostly for standardization purposes, but it has the neat side effect of allowing for information about characters other than the three protagonists, such as the bad guys. If you seriously disagree with the edit, I'm not so attached to it that I'll tear my clothes, wear sackcloth, and sprinkle ashes on my head if you revert it. I just thought it might help get this to B class. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 06:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll reverse it if you don't mind.  To be honest I don't think anyone is going to add much to this article as the game is pretty old. Mezigue (talk) 10:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay / characters 

message: Is anything happening with this proposed merge? For what it's worth, I'd be happy to have a go at doing it, as I certainly think it needs doing, and then just changing MDK2 HD to a redirect. Is there anybody watching this page that's wildly against the idea? Bertaut (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not watching the HD page, but I am watching this one, and I have no objections unless someone can explain why the HD port is different enough to warrant its own article. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 03:37, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was pretty surprised when I saw the HD port with its own article. I've seen several games get HD ports, but I've not seen one have a seperate article before. And it's not like there's vast amounts of info there that couldn't easily be integrated into this one. Give me a few days to get a couple of hours free and I'll take a run at it. Bertaut (talk) 04:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  MDK2 HD Merge