Talk:Myspace/Archive 4

message: Although the article is very good, it doesn't really explain what MySpace is to someone who isn't familiar with it. I'm a little unsure myself so was hoping this article might help, and basic questions I had such as why do people go on this, how you get 'friends', how does the whole thing work, weren't answered... sorry to be so dim! --Alexpeters99999 17:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basic explanation 

message: i had entered info about the very popular Spotlight Contest on myspace in the Other section, and it was deleted. I think it should not be deleted because it is very popular and even praised by tom himself. Mcoop06 12:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello! We thank you for your suggestion! First, please sign an messages on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). Second, the topic you mention (a picture comment contest? I tried to read the page, but it made me dizzy) is not big enough to be verifiable in third-party sources, which is the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. -- Chris chat edits essays 11:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spotlight Contest 

message: Hi, I was thinking of adding to the security section, about the recent JavaScript loophole that was made public that allowed users to use JavaScript code on their profiles. http://profileviewz.com/ was selling a working MySpace Tracker that allowed you to get the FriendID of the user browsing the MySpace profile with the JavaScript code on it, thus allowing you to get their username, profile name, email address (though cookie data), profile details, pictures, etc. This loophole was patched some time during the first 2 weeks of October (date unknown). Roozbenjrox 22:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? -- Chris chat edits essays 04:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Security 

message: I heard in several forums that Myspace will be implementing changes which will disable links to any of the numberous Myspace help sites out there such as http://www.premadelayouts.biz Has anyone else heard of this, is there any truth to it. It seems in my opinion that these help sites actually help Myspace by making it more fun to use so why would Myspace want to intentionally hinder these sites?
Minnseoelite 09:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless, it's neither a fact nor verifiable, so it's not going in until it is. But MySpace can't "disable links" to just certain sites. Why would they? -- Chris chat edits essays 16:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking this is spam. --Hypertext 07:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm thinking you're a jackass. Well, I don't like MySpace anyway, because I feel that it promotes satanism. Well, not satanism. More just being incredibly dull. Same thing. Omegaultima 17:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace To Disable Links? 

message: I(and my compatriots) can no longer access myspace in China.  I can see my homepage, but not the profiles.  If a block has been put on myspace, like there had been on wikipedia, then it should be a good addition.  On the other hand, it might be my school, city, or region blocking me out; so I don't know.  ABart26 16:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's documented in the press or any reliable source then it would be worth noting in the article.  But without some sort of verifiable source for this, then it's like hearsay in court..inadmissable here.  ju66l3r 17:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could also be the Chinese goverment, they are very strict on free speach, & all its advocates I.E. networking sites. But thats my two cents. Evicorator666 03:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  China 

message: If I was to start a band page on myspace and upload their songs surely that is a copyright violation right? 195.93.21.36 21:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please leave this page for the discussion of the MySpace article on Wikipedia.  This is not a chat space/forum for MySpace questions or legalities.  ju66l3r 17:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It probably would be a copyright violation. This is probably explained in the copyright article - copyright 101 if you will. As it happens, a similar thing is mentioned in the YouTube article, but only because it has been highlighted in the mainstream media. If there is similar coverage of similar problems on MySpace then it could probably go in, but there would have to be references. It is not for this article to explain copyright law. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Here's another copyright story MySpace sued by Universal Music -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright

message: i had entered the amount of users currently signed up to myspace.com. someone had deleted it. i think it should stay up to show people the popularity of the website, and plus its not hurting anyone. its just more info on the popular website Mcoop06 21:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On what are you basing this count?  Unless it is coming from a third-party verifiable source, then it's either original research (like "I went to Tom Anderson's profile" or "I made a new profile and looked at that number in the corner") or potentially biased (like "I got it from MySpace").  The latter is better than the former by far, but both have their potential issues and shouldn't be the basis for inclusion of this information in the article.  The article already states how many accounts there were on a specific date in a news article.  It also gives the rough rate at which accounts are being created.  If someone wants to ballpark how many accounts there are today, they can use those two pieces of information to get an estimate.  Without proper sourcing for this info, it doesn't belong in the article.  ju66l3r 22:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It has previously been discussed on this talk page (maybe now in the archive) that Tom's "number of friends" is biased to only those that leave Tom as a friend, etc.  It does not accurately reflect the number of users and as I mention above, a report of the account volume and growth rate is included in the article text.  I'm not sure it's pertinent in the infobox (especially since there's no way to get a valid number and it's changing so frequently).  ju66l3r 07:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The most correct estimate is in the "Network" box, but adding the data would not be advised since there is no static source. We update along with otehr news sources. -- Chrissperanza! chat edits</font> 22:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  # of users 

message: Why do they have pretend characters like Borat and the Chancellor Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta on Myspace? --66.218.13.66 05:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please leave this page for the discussion of the MySpace article and not general questions about MySpace.  Thanks.  ju66l3r 07:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Because MySpace's primary function is as a marketing tool Bwithh 02:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why 

message: I have recently seen on Myspace that there have been alot of profiles getting hacked because of phishing sites. Now this is nothing new but the thing that I don't care for is that I have heard that Myspace is trying to blame Myspace resource site owners for most of this. As you may know getting a profile with thousands of friends can be very valuable to a Myspace resource site owner. But that does not give justification for blamming resource site owners for the problem. Why would any site owner who's Myspace resource site depends on Myspace want to do anything to place that in a bad situation.
66.188.181.101 01:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace Phishing 

message: One extra piece of trivia for the site, which may be worthy of inclusion:
There is a UK band called The Sunset Gun (http://www.sunsetgun.co.uk), who have a song called "Sit On MySpace and Tell Me That You Love Me", which appears to be about the lonliness of MySpace's so-called "social networking". If John B's, Weird Al Yankovic's and Hollywood Undead's songs are all mentioned, I think The Sunset Gun's song would make a worthwhile addition.
--Samwaltonyeah 13:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really.  Weird Al and co. are notable, and their work widely known.  Who are this band?  Never heard of them.  And no, that's not because I'm stuck in Varietyland.  I'm in the UK myself.  If the song ever reaches prominence, then it would be worth mentioning.  Cain Mosni 22:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: This article has a  tag at the top . Am I right in thinking there is no reason for it? -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Granted - as one editor put it when removing the template - MySpace is not an event, current or otherwise.  However, as the subject of the article it is very much subject to change.  It both influences, and is influenced by current events.  It may not fit the bill in terms of actual newsworthy events, but in social historic terms, which take a very much longer view, and which form the majority of the substance of the article it is both current and an event in history.  In all those respects (and as the template admonishes) the content of the article is very fluid and as changeable as if it were a current event in news terms.   Cain Mosni 22:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current event

message: For the past couple of months, I've noticed an increasing number of profiles ment for "advertising" such as Borat, Final Fantasy XII, and Wal-Mart. That's my guess of how the "Featured Profile" area on the homeplace got used. Perhaps we should put in a section on the article stating that many companies are starting to "advertise" their buisness or products by making special profiles? It could say that it's an attempt for the them advertise to a large online community (Myspace). mortified_penguin contact 04:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, find a news article or two (I'm busy). -- Chrissperanza! chat edits</font> 05:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad idea unless you can find a reputable published source that you can cite to qualify a) the observation (relatively easy), and b) how many is many (much more difficult).  You can probably find mentions of specific products, services or releases that have been promoted through MySpace, but an unbiased assessment of the volume in general is going to be very hard to come by, I imagine.  Cain Mosni 22:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Myspace Profile Advertising

message: There should be a section about how dangerous Myspace is in the article.Mr.Rachel 20:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Calling it "dangerous" would be POV.  There is some coverage in the article of criticisms and controversies in the area of security and child safety. *Dan T.* 20:58, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

text: What makes MySpace any more "dangerous" than allowing children unfettered access to the 'net in the first place?  WP:NOT a life manual... Cain Mosni 22:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danger Section Should Be Added 

message: Anyone mind if I move to myspace, as you can see from the site (and the image in the article) it's 'myspace' not 'MySpace'. — Deon555talkdesk 04:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Page 

message: The section "Brad Greenspan / The Free My Space Report" needs a major ref fix.  All the refs are external links, so can someone please fix them?  (I'm too lazy)  Thanxs.  =D  Jumping cheese  Cont@ct 10:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref Fix 

message: Trolling. Message added here , removed here  — Deon555talkdesk 22:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmm... trolling. Yes, setting your profile to private will make it secure, and no one in the world will be able to see it but your friends. Remember, MySpace is the most secure site in the whole world.-- Chris is me 15:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Message Removed 

message: My thesis statement: Putting an age requirement on MySpace will have no effect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.20.64.77 (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, good luck. Basically, you'd need to find evidence that people have tried and failed to do so with other networks. I'd start with orkut. Regardless, Wikipedians aren't going to help you much, and you probably can't publish your paper here, since the conclusion you derive will be partially original research. -- Chris is me 15:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm writing a research report... 

message: Should I be allowed to post a despcription of the largest group on myspace with a link to that group? This is a popular group. I thought I posted something like this before in the groups section of the myspace article on wikipedia, but...it seems to have been deleted. It must be a misunderstanding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baltimoretom (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't personally think it's too imprtant or relevant, nor is there a way of verifying that in a third party source. -- Chris is me 16:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, don't feed the trolls ;-) -- Chris is me 05:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, we're a cabal trying to censor your views, becuase if they're heard, it'll EXPLODE! If your comments have been edited, that shouldn't be, sorry. You can check the history and restore them if they are not trolling. -- Chris is me 05:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's a groups section on the MySpace article.  

message: I gather there is a has been a problem with MySpace preventing sign ups for a few weeks. Might it be worth adding a paragraph addressing sign up problems, or just general lack of functionality and lack of response from customer services? Anybody know how to get around the current sign up problems? McGonicle 16:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Transient issues with the website are not citable second-party sources (see WP:RS).  ju66l3r 16:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sign Up problems? 

message: Moved comment previously above. -- Chris is me 16:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  comment 

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message: "On August 8, 2006, search engine Google signed a $900 million deal to provide a Google search facility and advertising on Myspace."  Who paid whom?211.225.34.166 (talk) 04:49, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  unclear 

message: I propose merging Criticism of Myspace with Myspace to create a article with a greater NPOV.Bryce Carmony (talk) 21:24, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal 

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