Talk:Stigma (sociological theory)

message: I think the article Social stigma should be merged with this one. --Antonielly 19:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me, I'll add merge tags. delldot talk 09:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - I believe both articles are referring to the same subject, thus should be one article Doctoroxenbriery (talk) 04:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree I say merge --- Social stigma has little to add to the subject which cannot be included here, and this is the better of the two articles. --Anonymaus (talk) 10:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

text:  Agree - merge. -- Jtneill - Talk 11:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

text:  Agree - merge, Social stigma is a breif article that could merely be a section inside Stigma (Sociological Theory) - Colt .55
Yes, I'd agree. The article on 'Social Stigma' contributes additional clarification to the reasons for stigma than is featured on 'Social Stigma (sociaological theory'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.206.50 (talk) 12:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

text:  Disagree - It shouldn't be merged, it can be included in social stigma as a shortened section but it should be said Goffman's way of describing and explaining stigma is one of the theoretical expressions of this notion and shouldn't be confused with others, hence it should stay in a seperate article. 129.242.226.91 (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text:  Disagree - It shouldn't be merged, because it would be hard for many people to find it if it's merged.  All I was looking for was "social stigma" and found it easily because it's in its own section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmclaug (talk • contribs) 12:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you are a novice in Wikipedia. Don't worry about that; after merging both articles, any wikilink to Social stigma would automatically redirect to the contents merged into the Stigma (sociological theory) article. To see an example how redirection works, click on the following wikilink: Interlingue, and see the real title of the article. --Antonielly (talk) 14:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: :::Agree - I believe both articles are referring to the same subject, thus should be one article Doctoroxenbriery (talk) 04:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree I say merge --- Social stigma has little to add to the subject which cannot be included here, and this is the better of the two articles. --Anonymaus (talk) 10:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree - merge. -- Jtneill - Talk 11:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree - merge, Social stigma is a breif article that could merely be a section inside Stigma (Sociological Theory) - Colt .55
Yes, I'd agree. The article on 'Social Stigma' contributes additional clarification to the reasons for stigma than is featured on 'Social Stigma (sociaological theory'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.206.50 (talk) 12:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Agree

message: ::: Disagree - It shouldn't be merged, it can be included in social stigma as a shortened section but it should be said Goffman's way of describing and explaining stigma is one of the theoretical expressions of this notion and shouldn't be confused with others, hence it should stay in a seperate article. 129.242.226.91 (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Disagree - It shouldn't be merged, because it would be hard for many people to find it if it's merged.  All I was looking for was "social stigma" and found it easily because it's in its own section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmclaug (talk • contribs) 12:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you are a novice in Wikipedia. Don't worry about that; after merging both articles, any wikilink to Social stigma would automatically redirect to the contents merged into the Stigma (sociological theory) article. To see an example how redirection works, click on the following wikilink: Interlingue, and see the real title of the article. --Antonielly (talk) 14:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Disagree

message: This topic in sociological theory is missing discussion of the wide range of research that uses social stigma as a central concept.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.235.210.196 (talk) 21:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it could do with some re-writing and cleaning up --Anonymaus (talk) 10:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Current research

message: Overview statements and discussion of particular research are coming along.
* However, I feel like there must be current research on stigma as it relates to sexual identity, to criminal and felon status.  Another improvement would be to be more clear about distinctions between disabilities, and types of diseases, and on the other hand, mental illness.  
* I will look for some examples.  Yep, there are many.  Try these google scholar search terms:
** stigma felon  
** stigma disability 
** stigma aids
** stigma sexuality 
** stigma amputee
** stigma mental illness   
--Htw3 19:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good progress on current research section 

message: The initial discussion of stigma should not be a goffman love fest.  it should be about the concept.  discussion of goffman and his role in the development of the theory should come in a section on the development of the theoretical construct.  --Htw3 19:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I still don't like the intro 

message: I suspect these are left over from early drafts, but jazz like this "Who are the Stigmatized / Who are the Stigmatizers??? Everyone" is not in the least bit consistent with an encyclopedic entry.--Htw3 19:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it could do with some re-writing and cleaning up --Anonymaus (talk) 10:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is the deal with the sensationalistic headings? 

message: Aside from what I have just added, Goffman's conception of stigma is not represented here at all.  Goffman writes of a social practice which occurs within any group--the way the group will treat others who are not normal according to that group's expectation of normality.  The article takes the view that certain attributes are stigmas, and others are not, absolutely, and moreover that certain individuals are "stigmatizers" as if there is something to be said about the act of "stigmatizing"; Goffman defines stigma in a way totally incompatible with this conception, and speaks of the many types of reactions that normals have to the stigmatized.  If the former is to be the conception of stigma presented in the article, Goffman's work should be separated from it. —Jemmytc 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goffman is totally misrepresented here 

message: I think this section needs to be thoroughly rewritten. I've made a start at it, but some of the language is impenetrable to me, so I felt that I had to leave untouched some of it in case I was missing whatever points were trying to be made, as I'm not a sociologist... Kay Dekker (talk) 21:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Research Directions of Stigma

message: So stigma is ALWAYS a bad thing that needs to be eliminated?  Even if it's against a behavior that's harmful or costly to society? DanBishop (talk) 06:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: How are stigma and shame and narcissism and the victim-hero related?...
How are stigma and shame and narcissism and the victim-hero differentiated?...
References
Andrew Morrison
http://books.google.com/books?id=6-YLM7XaJBEC&pg=PP1&dq=shame+morrison&ei=myxDSrryBpLqygS0ju1h
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/20133189
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22victim-hero%22
Daniel Reeders (2009) Solutions to Stigma -- HIV Australia (advance copy).pdf, 209 KB
http://gaymenshealth.ning.com/profile/DanielReeders
-- the zak (talk) 18:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  stigma. shame. narcissism. the victim-hero.