Template talk:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/OF/Italy

message: coming soonGenerale d'Armata1	Maggiore Generale con incarichi speciali	Brigadiere Generale che ricopre incarichi di grado superiore	Colonnello comandante di corpo	Primo Capitano
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Notes:
#Generale d'Armata does not exist in the italian army even though NATO chart says it exists.
#A red border around the star only means that the officer is commanding an operational unit.
#Primo Capitano also does not exist even though NATO chart says it exists.	
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Notes:
#Generale d'Armata does not exist in the italian army even though NATO chart says it exists.
#A red border around the star only means that the officer is commanding an operational unit.
#Primo Capitano also does not exist even though NATO chart says it exists.	
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Notes:
#Generale d'Armata does not exist in the italian army even though NATO chart says it exists.
#A red border around the star only means that the officer is commanding an operational unit.
#Primo Capitano also does not exist even though NATO chart says it exists.	
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Notes:
#Generale d'Armata does not exist in the italian army even though NATO chart says it exists.
#A red border around the star only means that the officer is commanding an operational unit.
#Primo Capitano also does not exist even though NATO chart says it exists.	
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Notes:
#Generale d'Armata does not exist in the italian army even though NATO chart says it exists.
#A red border around the star only means that the officer is commanding an operational unit.
#Primo Capitano also does not exist even though NATO chart says it exists.
*In fact these are not ranks but offices or charges. Moreover "generale di corpo d'armata con incarichi speciali" is one of them and is OF-8 not OF-9 so I removed it. --F l a n k e r 22:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: unverified use of following ranks

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ImageIT-Army-OF9.jpg

message: Generale d'Armata is an old rank designation abolished in 1947, now is simply Generale, see www.esercito.difesa.it general ranks, and is a NATO STANAG 2116 OF-9. The chief of the Italian Armed Forces is a Generale, but the rank can be holded by other charges. The rank with three stars and one red bordered star is Generale di Corpo d'Armata con incarichi speciali and is an OF-8 (is a special duty of a Generale di Corpo d'Armata: there are tons of such ranks, like Colonnello con incarichi di Generale di Brigata, Colonnello con funzioni di Generale di Brigata, and so. Would you insert all of them?). Maresciallo d'Italia is a rank of the Regio Esercito (Royal Army) not of the Esercito Italiano (Italian Army). If you refers to gradi_spalline_old.asp, this is an old rank page (the Generale d'Armata rank was abolished since 1947, like I said, and is clearly written). Please, read and study before post an edit. --F l a n k e r 17:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: here, in the Italian Army home page, there is the real insignia (refferring to 2nd world war, so for the Kingdom Army). You can see that the old insigna of the Kingdom are very different from the new ones of the Republic. The old insignia are used today on the sleeves of the dress or cerimony uniforms. --F l a n k e r 12:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Maresciallo d'Italia ?!?

message: Italian Army homepage:
*Generals
*higher officers
*officers
*NCO's
*soldiers
These are the current and official ranks of the Italian Army. All other rank insignias are FAKE!! --noclador 19:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: This is not a rank, but a role, like many others: generale di brigata con incarichi di generale di divisione, generale di brigata con funzioni di generale di divisione, generale di divisione a titolo onorifico, ecc... --F l a n k e r 22:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to include these variants for role, or at least to include a mention and a link to them.  After all, they are insignia and used as such, and we do show multiple insignia for other countries as appropriate. Caerwine Caer’s whines 06:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Generale di corpo d'armata con incarichi speciali