Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church

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The history of Christianity in Europe begins with Macedonia, as the first ever christian in Europe was Lidia of Macedonia that was christened by the Apostle Paul. However the first church organisation which was independent and covered the teritorry of Macedonia was created with the investiture of St. Clement of Ohrid for the first ever Slavic Bishop with deocese in the region of Ohrid (Kutmichevitsa) and the first Bishop, later Archibishop of the Ohrid Archibishophoric. During the following period up to the coronation of Samoil as Macedonian Emperor the Archibishophoric of Ohrid was enlarging its deocese and included at its peek Dubrovnik (todays Croatia), the whole of Zeta and Raska (todays Serbia and Montenegro), the deoceses of Albania, Sicily, Serdica (todays Sofia in Bulgaria) and the complete deocese of the ethnical Macedonian teritorry. It was during this period that the Archibishophoric of Ohrid was up-graded to Patriarhat.
Some century and a half later after the fall of the Empire of Samoil and his death, part of the deocese of the Macedonian church under the lead of St. Sava of the Serbs established the Pek Patriarhat, illegitimately, and with no recognition by the Ohrid Archibishop. This however, never lead to separation since during the rule of the Emperor Dushan of the Serbs who was crowned in Skopje, the capital of todays Macedonia, both churches co-existed harmoniously, when both archibishops participated in the ceremony of the coronation.
The fatal moment occures in 1762 when the Turkish Sultan adopted decree by the means of which the Ohrid Archipishophoric was abolished and the diocese was passed to the Patriarhate of Constantinopole. Latter in 20 century with the establishment of the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, when the teritorry of Macedonia was included under the teritorry of the Serbs, as Southern Banovina, the antique diocese of the Ohrid Archibishophoric was bought for money from the Patriarhate of Constantinopole and therefore the Serbian Orthodox Church considers to be the mother church of the Macedonian Orthodox Church, which having regard the spreads of christianity and slavic literacy is the mother church of all the Slavic Orthodox Churches.
Now, I know it's full of PoVs, but I feel that we need some kind of similar info in the article. Even if MoC were formed in 1945, Orthodox Christianity in the area has a veery long history long time before that, and that history should be depicted in the article to provide an overview of historic conditions. Duja 20:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Info in second paragraph added is about Bulgarian church. But much of the things mentioned takes part in today's Macedonia terotory, so it should be mentioned, as rewritten. I would rewrite this info to POV, but I have fatal shortage of time. But if someone else doesn't beat me to this, I would probably do this.
Are you serious? Lydia of Macedonia IS NOT A MACEDONIAN SLAV!!! The slavs didint arrive until the sixth century. she could be a Roman for all we knowHeraklios 11:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: except the Nis agreement was eventually rejected by the bishops of Macedonia, except for Jovan. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:07, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: the "organization" section has two maps, one showing 7 dioceses labeled "(1967-2013)", the other showing 8 dioceses labeled "(2013 to present)".  The only difference is that in the first map, the Diocese of Tetovo and Gostivar is not labeled.  But the accompanying text, indicating dioceses as of 1999, lists it.  Was Tetovo-Gostivar empty before 2013?  Or should it be labeled in the first map, which would then require the dates to be omitted?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:34, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  maps of dioceses 

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The result of the move request was: Moved   >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 22:40, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Macedonian Orthodox Church – Archdiocese of Ohrid →  – The official name of the church is the Macedonian Orthodox Church – Archdiocese of Ohrid. But the most commonly used name of the church is simply the Macedonian Orthodox Church. Therefore, I propose to move this article to the Macedonian Orthodox Church. Симит-погача (talk) 18:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 July 2022