Talk:Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland

message: So, do only men sin, or do women too?
Emerymat 03:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, what? Both. --Kizor 17:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teachings 

message: A recent edit ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_of_Finland&diff=61491025&oldid=61345356 ) removed the (unattributed) percentage loss of members. The web site, 
http://www.eroakirkosta.fi/tiedotus/resign.html works out the percentage loss for 2005 at 0.6% (which is what the original version had). I'll think about the wording and add back in the loss figures, though thats kind of like an edit revert thus why I'm talking about it. 
Ttiotsw 01:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Membership losses 

message: "The Swedish reformation was started by the state, which wished to confiscate the church property." From the article.
This is a highly oversimplifying statement on the historical causes of the Swedish Reformation. There was instability in the Church before Gustav Vasa decided to change the national religion. An instance of this is the bull decreed from Rome to bishops in Sweden in 1518, which included a plan on how to deal with the "heretics". Particularly in Swedish cities, Reformation Theology was very popular, whereas the rural areas were more inclined to follow the pope.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.34.225 (talk) 17:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intentions and causes of the Swedish Reformation 

message: The introduction of the article says: "Most Finns pray at least once a month." Um... Pray for which god? I'm from Finland and I find this statement very hard to digest. While it is common to be a member of the church, most members don't believe in it's main teachings or practise religious activities in their everyday life. If this indeed is a fact based on some questionnare, the source should definitely be mentioned. Malitsu (talk) 12:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The commonness of praying 

message: :Category:Church of Finland is itself a category within :Category:State churches (Christian). — Robert Greer (talk) 19:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:State churches (Christian)]] ''vs.'' [[:Category:Church of Finland]] 

message: A single user has changed the entries of the ELCA's German sister churches to their German names because he thinks the "concept" can't be translated. Most of the discussion takes place on the wikipedia article on the Evangelical Church in Germany, the roof organisation of the Evangelical (Lutheran) churches in Germany. Maybe you have a look? Because according to that user (and he really insists) the Church should not be called that way. Some of the member churches are outspoken Lutheran like the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria, some are "united" like the Evangelical Church in the Rhineland, 2 are Reformed like the Evangelical Reformed Church. Usually one member church covers a unique area (pretty much like a diocese). Maybe you want to take part in the discussion? --Mk4711 (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  should the Finnish name be used instead of the English one? 

message: I ask to someone please show a RS about the church stance on abortion. The link given is now empty and I couldn't find it in their official website: . Considering that Martin Luther was strongly anti-abortion and the sanctity of human life that many Lutherans still upheld, I think that the official stance of the church might be more nuanced then a left-wing secular party. The church certainly has many pro-life supporters. The Church of Norway official stance on abortion is still pro-life, with exceptions.81.193.26.32 (talk) 00:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Stance on abortion

message: In the table it was claimed that for example 20.1% of Finnish people are "not religious". However, this 20.1% means people who are not members of a registered religious community. This is not the same thing as being non-religious. As far as I know, the majority of muslims in Finland, for example, are not officially members of any registered religious community, though they might certainly be religious. This is also true for some christian groups. I changed this to "No religious affiliation", which is the wording in the article Finland#Religion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.67.159.28 (talk) 17:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Not religious" 

message: FYI I started an article on Virsikirja - the hymnal. Linking it to this article is not so simple because music or liturgy are not mentioned here... Periegetes (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem solved: Hymnal was after all mentioned in the chapter on "Disestablished national Church". Periegetes (talk) 10:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hymnal 

message: This article states that the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland (ELCF) takes a "moderate" view on homosexuality/GLBT issues. It states that the ELCF teaches homosexuals should "refrain" from practicing sex. However, the article later states that the blessing of same-sex marriages is allowed. Unless the ELCF is being willfully ignorant and assumes such marriages are asexual, I would assume that the policy that states that homosexual persons should refrain from having sex is not correct. Is there updated information? IACOBVS (talk) 01:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, but I think that there insufficient sources about the discussion. AlfaRocket (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexuality - Discrepency 

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message: There are a lot of links to Finnish websites as references. A person who only understands English (most English Wikipedia readers) may find it difficult to verify the information. Perhaps more English references? Also, found a few broken links which need to be fixed. Ian Waithaka (talk) 06:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that the official language of the institution in question and of the country is Finnish, the best sources are likely to be in Finnish. If you have doubts about the validity of references, there are plenty of users with Finnish skills whom you can ask to help. If, on the other hand, you have additional English sources, please feel free to be bold and add them as references. --MPorciusCato (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  English citations 

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