Talk:James Hutton

message: Alas? -- Zoe 04:37, 26 March 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Alas

message: From Paul Pearson, Cardiff University
The quotation from Hutton regarding the natural selection mechanism is from the 1794 'Investigation of the Principles of Knowledge', not the Theory of the Earth as stated. See my article on this in Nature Vol 425, p. 665 (2003)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.48.62 (talk) 11:46, 23 October 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been corrected, albeit much later, and the article has been cited in the article.  — Athaenara  ✉  01:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  natural selection 

message: I am a first year student at secondary school, and I was given homework for History to find out about James Hutton. I could not find much information, so I tried on Wikipedia and found what I was looking for! Thank You Wikipedia, for being there and helping me. 
Yours Sincerely,
Miss. R Robertson  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.83.160 (talk) 11:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad we could be of at least some use to some wee soul! Thanks for saying so. --Mais oui! 11:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank You Wikipedia 

message: Now I don't know for sure, but under the Cultural Reference heading the contributor claims that the band Bad Religion wasn't inspired by Hutton when they used his quote, "no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end" in a song. This seems impossible knowing that the lead vocalist for the band, Greg Graffin, has his undergraduate and master's degrees in geology. I recognized the quote immediately when my geology professor recited it in class ages ago having owned the Bad Religion cassette. So anyway- if I'm wrong then maybe a source could be cited for that tidbit.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommiepea (talk • contribs) 05:42, 5 January 2007
:Thanks, I've removed that unsourced claim as you suggest. .. dave souza, talk 09:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Religion quotes Hutton 

message: WikiProject Biography Assessment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 16:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: It should be noted that James Hutton never used the term uniformitarianism which is attributed to him in the first paragraph of the article.  — Athaenara  ✉  01:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Uniformitarianism

message: The section on evolution is important, and badly needs references. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evolution 

message: On December 9 2010 "Dave souza" (or someone calling himself that) changed all occurances of james-hutton.org.uk, the real James Hutton page, to james-hutton.org, a "healthy living" spam page (I have changed the links back - 28 occurances!). Link to the change. I report this here because this might be a problem for Wikipedia - and hope that somebody is knowledgeable about what to do, and get that done. This looks like an obvious "hijacking" of a real page on an whatever.org.uk or whatever.com.uk domain linked by Wikipedia by registering a whatever.org or whatever.com domain, change the Wikipedia links, and voila you get people redirected to your page. Why else would somebody register james-hutton.org for a page on "healthy living"? Well it might have been accidental...
I just checked the Spanish page on James Hutton. That page had been changed from james-hutton.org.uk to james-hutton.org on December 7 2011 by "Nachosan". [to the change.] (I haven't corrected them.) "Nachosan" made a lot of other changes on the page that day, but they all seem OK - like the changes "Dave souza" did (except for the deletion of ".org" - if he did it?). This is very peculiar indeed!
Also the pages in Galician(Galego) and Korean link to james-hutton.org, those in Hebrew, Portugese, Russian and Finnish to james-hutton.org.uk, while the pages in the rest of the languages don't link to either of the two what I could see. The page in Galician was made March 23 2011 and was probably a translation of the then existing page in English. The Korean page at first didn't link to either page but it was extended (+3000 chars) by "Asfreeas" on December 13 2010 (four days after the edit of the English page) who put a single link to james-hutton.org at the end. 
The links on the Spanish page looked like this when "Nachosan" started translating the English page on 20 September 2010: "cite web |url=http://www.james-hutton.org.uk/One/Biography/02.htm |title=Early Years |accessdate=2008-04-11 |publisher=James Hutton.org". Note that the link is correct, but the publisher is "James Hutton.org". On September 7 2010 "Nachosan" had corrected 12 links from "james-hutton.org" to "james-hutton.org.uk", without changing the publisher (which was still "James Hutton.org"). The original links were added by "Dave souza" on April 12 2008 and were to "james-hutton.org" with "James Hutton.org" as publisher. Obviously somewhere between April 2008 and September 2010 BFRS (the owners of the James Hutton site) changed domain from james-hutton.org to james-hutton.org.uk. This was noticed by "Nachosan" who corrected it. After that the Wikipedia pages have been changed back to james-hutton.org which today is a spam-page. By accident or by intent? I doubt that "Nachosan" or "Dave souza" would do it by intent, but perhaps by accident? Episcophagus (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for uncovering this problem. I'm not sure it's worth linking to the archives. It appears to have been an online pamphlet made for the James Hutton Trail in Scottish Borders, and while the information may have been reliable, it would be better to cite books. I have replaced one of the citations. RockMagnetist(talk) 00:27, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  james-hutton.org 

message: Is there a Wikipedia policy against acknowledging in articles any "founder of/father of/etc" honorifics like the one often credited to Hutton? There are at least two references in this article already which use that honorific in their own published titles and I know of many other sources that use it for discussing Hutton. 
It looks like Nicolas Steno is also considered to be entitled to this honorific and it is mentioned in a less formal way in that article.
Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 20:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The source cited in the Nicolas Steno article ("Four Centuries of Geological Travel" edited by P.W. Jackson, page 26) describes Steno as "founder of the science of geology" and describes James Hutton as "father of modern geology", which are two different honorifics. GeoWriter (talk) 22:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather Anglophone, perhaps based on Lyell's arguments for what was later dubbed uniformitarianism versus catastrophism, and  gives a more nuanced assessment which I've incorporated into the lead.  . dave souza, talk 04:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founder of Modern Geology 

message: I keep seeing that Hutton is credited with coining the term "superorganism", but I can't find this in the references cited for Hutton. He definitely does not write that in his 1788 paper, "Theory of the Earth" published in the Transactions of the Royal Society of Edinburgh available here: https://archive.org/details/transactionsofro01roya . I read the entire thing, as well as did a word search. Instead, Hutton makes comparison of the Earth as a machine (which makes sense since he wrote during the Industrial Revolution). Yet, this is the paper that Lovelock refers to in 1989 Lovelock, J.E., 1989. Geophysiology, the science of Gaia. Reviews of Geophysics, 27(2), pp.215-222). Lovelock repeatedly credits Hutton for this word in his various publications. I've also seen a reference of a supposed 1785 paper by Hutton, but his 1788 paper mentioned above was his first. In reality, the 1785 reference was a reading to the Royal Society of Edinburgh the paper that was published in 1788. Hutton's publications are discussed by Archibald Geikie in the Preface to the 1899 edition of the "Theory of the Earth" available at Google Books. 
144.39.6.3 (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hutton & "Superorganism" 

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