Talk:2C-I

message: I noticed that this article is almost identical to this page. The URL includes 'wiki' in it, but the bottom of the page says that content is copyrighted. Does anyone know if that webpage's content is usable?  Lachatdelarue (talk) 03:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think its a strange mirror . . .  you can click on all the links in the article and it takes you to the equivalent wikipedia page; I clicked on United States, for instance, and it's the same article, down to the pics and infobox and everything else . . .  --Heah 08:49, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, we'll assume it's a mirror then. Works for me, just wanted to make sure we weren't about to get sued :) Lachatdelarue (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyright infringement? 

message: Can someone provide references to it actually being made illegal in other European countries?
Just FYI the federal analog act requires the drug be intended for human consumption in order to be subject to this law.  I have added a small statement mentioning this.  Cloaked Dagger 16:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Legality

message: "A series of court cases in the US involving the prosecution of several online vendors is ongoing as of 2004."
Can someone provide any information on the ongoing case[s] they are referring to or others currently pending? --eXitwoundgaming
There has been at least one ruling in these cases in which the judge determined the burden of proof of human consumption was on the DEA.  This has led to a case against a vendor being dismissed.  Also, some of the vendors are serving some serious jail time.  Giantpiemaster 16:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cases

message: I work in an ER and recently I had a semi-concious patient arrive who ingested GHB with alcohol and something he was told was called "Starbursts".  Poison Control did not recognize this street name, but after some research online I found one or two sites associating this name with 2C-I.  Have you heard of this street name in association with 2C-I or is this something else? rmosler 03:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Street Names

message: "2C-I is always taken orally, although it can also be insufflated, smoked, or administered rectally as well (though as with all phenethylamines of the 2C class, 2C-I is incredibly painful upon insufflation) your face will most likely turn very red and you will feel like you are dying."
So your face will turn red and you will feel like you're going to die(subjective,wtf?!) when taking this??
No when you insuffalate 2c-i you're face may turn red and it will burn, not recommended.
"User reports have said that 2C-I may produce flashbacks in the weeks following its use. These flashbacks can last anywhere between seconds and hours, and manifest as a return of the hallucinogenic effects of the drug. Some users report being able to trigger the flashbacks at will. Note however that these flashbacks do not occur in the majority, but have simply been observed in a selection of users."
Citation?!  Please!!!  People also say lsd collects in your spine!!!
"Virtually no research has been conducted on the toxicity of 2C-I. Unconfirmed reports have mentioned blood-clotting issues, muscle pain and fatigue, tingling of extremities, pain in the kidney areas (after repeated use) and symptoms of stroke. Seizures have been reported when 2C-I was taken in combination with Wellbutrin. Potential users of 2C-I should be aware that the long-term effects are virtually unknown.
As of 2005, no official scientific studies of 2C-I users have been conducted, and no deaths have been attributed to the drug. There have been no reports of physical dependence or addiction. Comparisons with similar compounds suggest that use of 2C-I is unlikely to result in physical dependence."
"However, some users report short-term diarrhea after ingestion also about an hour later. Nausea is expected. Strong and uncontrollable sexual impulses, violent expressions, the inability to communicate verbally or audibly receive information, have been observed in males during peak 2ci experiences.[citation needed]"
I deleted this, because its absolute crap  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.171.94.28 (talk) 09:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations anyone? 

message: The street names listed in the article for 2C-I (iTrip, etc.) seem to be flimsy/ unverified, especially Pie.  can we get some sources for these names, other than hearing random guys on the street call it that? --Use the force (Talk * Contribs) 13:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations anyone??!! Revisited 

message: Are the above parts of the article accurate?
I experienced the left and the right side of my body feeling different on 2C-I, which I found very worrying (and I'm pretty sure the physical symptoms were there before the worrying). On the other hand, I experienced this both times I tried 2C-I; wouldn't having a stroke two of two times be kind of unlikely? There also wasn't any obvious lasting damage.
Suboptimal Username (talk) 10:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Blood clotting issues" and "symptoms of stroke" 

message: There was a claim in the article that people with an allergy to iodine should avoid 2C-I. While this would be good advice, I see nothing authoritative suggesting that iodine allergies exist. If this is incorrect, please clarify the matter here. 74.178.245.217 (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iodine allergy 

message: "A user taking 20 mg intramuscularly will need to take upwards of 30 mg to receive similar effects".
What? 
"smoking requires a higher dosage"
No, vaporizing requires it in the >5mg range
 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.43.22 (talk) 21:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This doesn't make any sense. 

message: According to this bill, 2c-i along with many other substances are soon to become schedule I in Pennsylvania:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?syear=2011&sind=0&body=S&type=B&bn=1006
98.114.48.213 (talk) 06:56, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schedule I In Pennsylvania 

message: The structure shows the methoxy groups at the 3- and 6- positions, whereas they are actually at the 2- and 5- positions on the phenethylamine molecule.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.102.40 (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Molecular structure is incorrect 

message: The Fox news article used to make the claim that 2c-i has been involved in multiple deaths doesn't appear trustworthy. Many of the references are towards the similar drug 25I, which is known as "Smiles" and has a history of deaths well-documented. I have not been able to find any other material that corroborates the claims found in the Fox News article, so I am temporarily removing it from the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivamoque (talk • contribs) 10:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Fox News Article

message: My edits are being undone because I have no sources to cite with. Might as well go ahead and take the rest of the article down because theres hardly a citation there; most of it is user reports and the tone reflects this. On that note, a few things should be added to this article.
anecdotal user reports of disc shedding events in the eye
anecdotal user reports of hypertensive crisis
users note a decrease in psychoactivity with subsequent doses and an increase in symptoms of hypertensive crisis
& a section on degradation
this compound has been observed to degrade in heat to a form which lacks psychoactive effects & dries out mucous membranes,
making it difficult to breathe and causing a vacuum to be pulled on the inner ear by the action of swallowing.
If i'm saying that a user (not myself) reported these things anecdotally to me, is it really necessary to require that I cite a source? Most of what is known about many scheduled substances and research chemicals come from human trials outside of a setting which would produce the kind of research which is citable on wiki. I personally would hate for the article to take on such a positive and whimsical tone which might encourage people to take this substance, while omitting all anecdotal accounts of negative facets just because they are without reference. Let me be clear, PEOPLES BLOOD WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS. Please include the information I have listed above, or allow me to include it, for the sake of harm reduction, and because a source for such research cannot currently exist in a legitimate way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RotogenRay (talk • contribs) 17:37, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major problem with citations 

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