Talk:Roaring Lion

message: The article says that he was born Rafael de Leon, then it says that he changed his name to Rafael de Leon. This is contradictory. Punkmorten 12:21, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've fixed this.  I've never encountered an individual with a more difficult set of names, and his own testimony in interviews still leaves questions unanswered.  Wish I could see his actual birth certificate!  Hope some calypso experts can help fill out the article; he was one of the best.  Badagnani 20:35, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: My name is Pamilla deLeon- Lewis, the daughter of the Roaring Lion and  would like to set the record straight. This fact can be checked I was at his state funeral in Trinidad. 
The Roaring Lion was born Rafael Cairi Llama deLeon but was renamed  Hubert Charles by his foster parent whose last name was Najiima Charles. Please note: Rafael Cairi Llama deLeon, was survived by his daughter, Pamilla deLeon- Lewis, an Author, Motivational Speaker and Performance Poet who resides in Brooklyn, New York, Christobal deLeon, Brooklyn, New York, Mohondas deLeon, who resides in Norway, Krishna deLeon, who resides in Paris, and Rafael deLeon Jr, who resides in Minnesota. USA. 205.188.116.135 23 December 2005 (UTC)
:Ms. deLeon-Lewis, thank you for this valuable information, which will be added to the article.  May we contact you for additional information?  Badagnani 00:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Ms. deLeon-Lewis, thank you for the additional information.  There are so many questions and discrepancies between the previously published information about your father and the information you are adding, and it would be wonderful if these could be gone through here.  I did email you in December to ask about a few things, but haven't heard back.  Badagnani 03:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information from daughter of Roaring Lion 

message: Removed from article due to lack of verifiability:
:Rafael deLeon was born on June 15, 1902 and died July 11, 1999. He was 97 years old.  Badagnani 18:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth/death

message: The current list gives the names of 8 children, yet the article states that he had perhaps as many as ten children in total.  Badagnani 03:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children 

message: The commonly given birthplace is Aroquita, in the Caura Hills.  However, this source  states Belmont, Port of Spain.  I believe Lion, as many calypsonians, may have told different stories at different times to heighten his mystery and appeal, and this may have been one example.  How may we verify his exact birthplace?  A birth certificate would be good to refer to in this case.  Further, Trinidadians I have asked cannot locate any place called "Aroquita."  Badagnani 03:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace

message: The last name was just changed to "de Leon."  Which was Lion's preferred writing of this surname?  That is probably the one that should be used.  A specimen of his writing (a letter or something similar) with the spelling of his name as he used it) would be helpful in verifying this.  Badagnani 03:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DeLeon, De Leon, or de Leon 

message: More additions have been made, entirely unsourced.  Whatever appears here must be verifiable, and, although the person making the edits anonymously seems knowledgeable, the information does conflict with earlier published information.  Thus, we really need to address each point here at "discussion" before inserting it into the article.  Clippings, birth certificate, information about children's names, correspondence containing Roaring Lion's name spelled the way he preferred, etc. will be very important.  Please, I'll ask again, let's work together here on this.  Badagnani 23:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New edits 

message: Fond memories of hearing RL's songs in Trinidad c.1948. Can't find any CD or casette featuring "Fan me Saga Boy" or "Turn Around Gal". Anyone have a source? if so, pls write mjr92115@hotmail.com.
thanks
68.8.166.237 05:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saga Boy, anyone?