Talk:National monument (United States)

message: This article attributes the creation of Colorado National Monument to Teddy Roosevelt in 1911...but Teddy Roosevelt had been out of office for three years by that point.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.184.231 (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Colorado National Monument

message: Should the article title be "...Monuments?" Slrubenstein
:No. With the singular we can simply link to this article without using pipes. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (pluralization). --mav 01:27 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Uh, okay, Slrubenstein
Edited the sentence "...although wilderness areas managed by the United States Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management often allow hunting" to include "and grazing". Mwehman (talk) 13:49, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: National Monuments can also be designated by acts of Congress. Ethelred unraed (talk) 21:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: This article - National Monument, despite being a relatively ambiguous term, explicity discusses only the US concept of a National Monument. In Ireland, we also have a concept of a "national monument" (it's in the news at the minute because they are building a motorway over one - remains of a castle in the path of Dublin's M50 motorway). It's hard to see how to insert general information (non-US) into the article without spoiling it. Perhaps this should be moved to US National Monuments instead, with a more general article at this location?
Do any other countries have a concept of "National Monuments"?
zoney ▓█▒ talk 20:15, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has since been renamed. -- Beland (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Americentricism 

message: I removed the following from the article because it is unreferenced, possibly original research, and it seems likely to be incorrect. -- Beland (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed text

message: Places designated as National Monuments by the U.S. President are not always natural areas like Devils Postpile.  Completely different from that are historic, non-natural sites, like the African Burial Ground in downtown New York City and a Lincoln cottage/memorial in Washington, D.C.  Those historic sites are "protected" if you wish, but they are not "Protected areas", which is a defined term meaning areas of 6 types defined by the IUCN International Union of something or another.  This has recently been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas#Are U.S. National Monuments "protected areas"?.  Editors, please stop making incorrect, unsupported assertions by category changes or editing the lede or otherwise, along these lines!  :)  Please discuss if you wish at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas discussion. doncram (talk) 17:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Your statements are a personal point of view, not supported by the US legislative fact. As such, your statements are useless.   IUCN has nothing to do with US law. Hmains (talk) 18:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Doncram, I respect your view, but these are indeed protected areas. They are areas that receive protection from the US Federal Government. While some are not completely natural and therefore do not fit the IUCN's definition, nothing here implies that we are following this unrelated NGO's terminology. I am somewhat disappointed the IUCN has such such definitions that do not take the generality of the terms into account. Perhaps the link to protected area should be removed, but they are still protected areas. However, that article should also be expanded. It should clearly define that the IUCN decides to only classify those concerning nature, but that there are many other types of protected areas. Reywas92Talk 22:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: National Monuments not same as Protected areas

message: This external link is dead and should receive a replacement: http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/search.tkl/  Leitmotiv (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Link

message: I added the POV tags and started the cleanup. This article needs a lot more work. It was written as a largely-uncited critique of the national monuments creation process. It didn't have a NPOV. Nearwater (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issues 

message: Mbierman... I'm unaware as to why you restored quotes around the names of national monuments. They aren't direct quotes from anywhere, they're proper names, and stylistically, there's no reason for the quotes. Could you explain why you think they need to be there? NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, no worries. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: I removed from the history section a few paragraphs that just said On XX date Pres. Obama created XX national monument, commenting "Removed list of recent additions. There is a List of National Monuments of the United States article".  User:Rmhermen undid my changes commenting only "(restore recent history to history section)".   I see no reason to duplicate information that already exists at List of National Monuments of the United States.  This article should encyclopedic and not a WP:Laundry list.  We should mention only substantial and historical creations not each and every one and leave the list article for Pres created XX national monument on XX date listing. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 12:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, let's nix the redundant laundry list stuff. If there's been some important recent trends (that sources back up), that might be worth mentioning. Additionally, it might be helpful to add the presidents as a separate column to the table here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States Nearwater (talk) 06:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: The list article contains only current National Monuments. It only has a brief discussion on the numerous former National Monuments, which are properly in the scope of this article. --Orlady (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplicate of info on List of National Monuments of the United States not needed