Talk:I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)

message: I am not sure there is any point in citing this "I think the cinematography is pure, and it tells a story about the song" because I can hardly see a connection between the text and the video. I say this both after reading carefully the lyrics of the song, and after reading the two section in the wikipedia page "Text" and "Video". Lyrics are about love and doing anything for it, where is the place for Beauty and Beast, Dracula, lesbian vampires etc etc??? Of course they had the right to that, but this rather already interprets lyrics in some way, not tells the story of the song - so no reason to quote that sentence. I loved this song and video when I was 15, now I have read the wiki page I think people are trying to find deeper things than they are, and I do not like that at all... But hey, everybody needs to have a god, right.
:The comment about B&tB is sourced. The JPStalk to me 18:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Video

message: I have read a few sources crediting this video to Beauty and the Beast, which is obviously consistent with the make-up and most of the concept.  It seems that there are others who believe that this is about vampirism, to which I completely agree also.
I say this because a there are at least a few scenes that directly relate to the legend of Dracula.  Very specifically at 3:30 with the mystically moving chair and more significantly at 4:22 when the girl is laying on the bed and twisting around while sinister-faced women (dracula's wives) crawl over her.  Both are historically famous as part of Bram Stoker's Dracula.  There are also a couple of shots with broken glass that also appears to have come from a mirror (maybe or maybe not, plenty of glass breaks in the video).  It seems that the disappearing act at the end could be related either to dracula or simply a general move used in tons of music videos for effect
+++i understand what you meanm but i think its nothing more than a coincidence. im sure those were just ideas that steinman possibly added to play along with the theme of the video, theres also no significant facts that say it is partially based on the legend o dracula or vampirism...Kaleb666 (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixing of two concepts 

message: Is there a reference for the claim "sex, drums, and rock 'n' roll" is a censored version? It sounds more like an intentional play on words to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.63.24.51 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 11 September 2006
:Now cited. The JPStalk to me 18:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censored? 

message: There's an interesting blog article here demonstrating the lyrical and musical similarities between the chorus of "I'd Do Anything ..." and the outsider musician Y. Bhekhirst's 1986 song "I Will Sing." This is almost certainly pure coincidence (Bhekhirst is extremely obscure, and not the sort of composer Jim Steinman would be looking to for ideas), but it's so remarkable that I wondered if it was worth a mention in the article. If you'd like to hear Bhekhirst's song for yourself, you can download an MP3 of it here (wait about 40 seconds for the vocals to come in). I really was struck by the resemblance. Perodicticus 20:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean! It's bloody dreadful tho'!! We can't really put in the article, though, because it would be original research. The JPStalk to me 09:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting coincidence -- worth a mention? 

message: ok, why have you undone my changes. i feel offended by the fact that you disappreciate my work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.234.110.198 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 29 October 2006
:Unfortunately we cannot accept copyrighted lyrics into Wikipedia. Normally I would leave an explaination for removing others' work, but since  your changes effectively consisted of copy and pasting, and hence little to be offended about, I belived that it wasn't an issue. There is an external link to a site with the lyrics. The JPStalk to me 21:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics

message: What won't he do?--Kingforaday1620 22:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're joking, right? The JPStalk to me 09:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  :P The JPStalk to me 01:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, when this song came out I remember thinking that "that" could either be interpreted as what Meat Loaf says he won't do or as something unspecified, or as both, and now that it has been revealed innumerable times that the former was intended, it seems that the lyric was structured very awkwardly, referring to antecedents that came a minute before, etc.  bleh.  I hated this song when it came out, the campy costumes in the music video, and I hate the song today. 67.185.99.246 23:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your interesting opinion. The JPStalk to me 23:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Depends if they were above the age of 12, or were willing to learn more complex terms than "before". The JPStalk to me 22:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I think the common (mis)interpretation is hardly sophisticated. What Neanderthals don't like is the sophisticated vocabulary used to explain it in this article. The JPStalk to me 08:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "That" 

message: This is a good article! Yay! Twinxor t 08:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article 

message: Clearly "love" = "sex" in this song. He'll do anything to get laid except that he won't take advantage of her (forget her feelings, screw around on her, etc).
-Robert —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.25.240.225 (talk) 22:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What he won't do 

message: This is a poorly written review.  The song is rendered "...I won't do hat" and "prophesizes" is not a word.  Shiggity 23:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So correct it then. It seems to me that you are being a troll. The JPStalk to me 10:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: JPS, I believe you wrong to snap that Shiggity. It sounds like they are complaining about All Music Guide's review that is used frequently as a reference here... NOT the Wikipedia article itself. I believe it was an attempt to question whether a given source was a good quality one, not complain about this  article's coverage in general. This doesn't sound at all like a "troll" to me, quite the opposite. Whereas you came off as sounding like you had never read WP:Civility or WP:AGF before, and seem to have failed to notice the title of this section of the talk page, which clearly denotes the subject as referring the the All Music Guide review. If Shiggity was unfamiliar with All Music Guide, perhaps he was merely trying to ask if it was considered a generally good source before he removed it, which I don't blame him for at all, since many times editors on here do add sources that are less than ideal, and even the article itself claims that "one reviewer" for All Music Guide does not understand the song's lyrics. I'm not sure I care enough to check All Music Guide at this point as the last time I looked on that site (ages ago) I didn't find much use in it, but honestly, you were quite unnecessarily rude, and give the impression that you completely misunderstood what Shiggity was actually talking about in the first place. Runa27 (talk) 22:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, my mistake. I didn't read the subheading. I'm so used to dealing with dickheads who make similar drive-by comments. Of course, if I could be bothered, I could write a paragraph indicating how you could have drawn attention to my error more politely,  The JPStalk to me 18:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with that though. I won't do hat either! :) --66.60.137.134 (talk) 16:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The All Music Guide review 

message: Whereas the anon makes some useful edits, we might be breaching the acceptable amount of lyrics we can quote. The JPStalk to me 13:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess he was just bored at having to answering the same question two billion times. I can imagine him doing that. 08:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quanity of fair use lyrcis 

message: the lesbo vampire girls in the video.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.142.51.31 (talk) 16:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What plagiarism of which Dracula movie? Do you have a reliable source? Dracula (1991, wasn't it?) wasn't the first to feature "lesbo vampire girls." It wasn't entirely original itself. The JPStalk to me 17:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We even have an article on Lesbian vampires. In this case, the correct word, I feel, is homage. --Agamemnon2 18:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  why no reference to the plagiarism of the Dracula movie? 

message: Is it "I Would..." or "I'd..." as we seem to have a mixture in the article:
* Article title: I'd
* Bold text in lead: I would
* Infobox title: I would
* Infobox image: I'd
--Jameboy (talk) 12:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: There are only 3 actors in the music video (the rest are extras). These are the male singer, the female singer and the cop who leads the hunt on them. The article already names the first two, but what about the third? -82.80.23.45 (talk) 14:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  So who plays the cop in charge? 

message: Yet again, editors are trying to insert references to Bram Stoker's Dracula. Per no original research, any comparison/interpretation must be supported by reliable sources. The JPStalk to me 20:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bram Stoker's Dracula 

message: Really? Who? And why does their conjecture warrant inclusion in this article? Given the tone of the lyrics and thematic structure of the song, why would anyone think that anal sex is the one reason for Meat Loaf to give up on love? Just for the hell of it, can we go ahead and plant the same conjecture in the JFK assassination article? "Some assume he was killed by anal sex!" It would be every bit as insane as this. --63.230.55.145 (talk) 01:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Others assume that "that" is a reference to anal sex." 

message: Why exactly do 'Anne Bader's' opinions need to be in this article? Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be non-opinionated? Further, what is it that makes her opinion notable to begin with?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.99.250.45 (talk) 17:06, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: She's a published academic, writing in a book published by a reputable publisher. The JPStalk to me 21:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anne Bader 

message: Cunnilingus?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.103.147.233 (talk) 21:54, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cunnilingus? 

message: Per this, short direct quotations are perfectly acceptable if highlighted as such and referenced correctly. The JPStalk to me 21:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  direct quotations 

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message: Listening to a 1984 Jim Steinman remix of the Bonnie Tyler song, "It's A Jungle Out There," Tyler declares at the beginning of the song, "I'd do anything for love, but I won't do that." I think this is worth noting in the history of the song, but I'm not sure where one would put it. Normally, one might say, "coincidence," save for Steinman's production of the Tyler song and his writing of the Meat Loaf song. Though he didn't write the Tyler song, the phrase doesn't appear on the album version, but it does in his remix of it. Furthermore, is it possible he'd written the song many years prior, and this is a reference to it?
Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCpaMZ2-zx8
Release: https://www.discogs.com/Bonnie-Tyler-Its-A-Jungle-Out-There/release/8457265
: Jim Steinman's own article mentions that he is credited with speaking that line on "Getting So Excited" (rather than "It's A Jungle Out There") though that's not mentioned on the Faster Than the Speed of Night article. It looks like something he originated around that time, anyway - rather than something he picked up from someone else. --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 15:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early 1980s reference/inspiration? 

message: I don't know why you replaced the cassette with the CD. I reverted your replacement of the cassette single. I think you took it from a European release (ebay) and misidentified it as the US CD commercial. Right? Two US CD releases are promo-only (one: discogs (1), ebay (1); another: discogs (1), ebay (1), ebay (2)). Only American customers receive the vinyl and the tape (ebay) on retail. They haven't had retail CD single releases printed in the US. Or, as I must say, the US CD wasn't released in retail stores, unfortunately. --George Ho (talk) 11:28, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cassette vs CD