Talk:Iridology/Archive 5

message: I can't see any reason why you refuse to mention Dr. Jipa's studies, except that you are either biased or ignorant of the subject. Lirath Q. Pynnor
:We don't have original research in the encylopedia -you know that. Dr jipa is not mentioned anywhere else on the web apart from irisward. Dr Jipa is not cited by any other researchers in the field, apart from possibly irisward (I haven't checked every page on that website)If you have evidence that he really is a leading opthamologist please point me to it because I have looked everywhere.  I'm not ignorant of the subject, I've been researching it for months now. As for biased, I don't know, I may be, but I wonder how neutral you are ? Is there any chance that your dislike of Ed Poor is clouding your judgement? Please read the entire talk page, including the archived pages. You may find the contents revealing.
Dr. Jipa is not publishing original research, he is merely noting the work that Dr. Waniek's team has spent 20 years doing. I have never stated that Dr. Jipa is a "leading opthamologist" -- but the group does exist, they do have medical degrees, and they are conducting research on trans-iridial light therapy. I wonder if your dislike of me is clouding your judgement? Lirath Q. Pynnor
Dr Jipa and Dr Waniek are almost certainly the same person. As for Dr Waniek's team's 20 years of research - where are  the papers? (I don't mean the ones he sells himself from his website, I mean real papers) Where are the citations by other experts in the field? Anyone can claim they have been doing anything. I could claim to have been doing research for the past 50 years that proves that aliens are living in central London. I can claim my research is scientific, and peer reviewed. ( it's scierntific because I say so, it's peer reviewed because I reviewed it myself and I am the leading scientific expert in the field.
 Should I be allowed to add it to wikipedia ? 
Look at it that way. Iridology has always been thought of as a load of old bullshit by the medical profession. If real doctors, really had scientific evidence otherwise then it would take the scientific world by storm. So why isn't he famous? Where are the articles in nature? theresa knott 18:02, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me, but I thought that profanity was banned in Wikipedia?  And, don't forget about the recent voting in the Irismeister matter about you refraining from making personal attacks. -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 18:05, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only just noticed this. Hence my late reply. "personal attacks" are attacks against a person. Who are you accusing me of attacking ? theresa knott 14:39, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: My stating "don't forget" is a direct reference to the future.  And, it was in reference to future personal attacks directed against moi. -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 14:39, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I see. You were just baiting me. OK I won't forget :-) theresa knott 14:45, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sorry Theresa, I forgot to include harassment (4.2 Decree A.) in my above pleading.  I wont forget next time. -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 23:31, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: If the Jipa "irismeister" existed, as Waniek/irismeister claims, he would've been listed on the "irismeisters' list" on the iris-ward site  (quote: "No "J" entry (as yet)"). The name is made up, or borrowed.--192.94.73.22 21:25, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: Great, now we are getting somewhere. Point me to your sources, if they check out I'll be happy to let you add the stuff back in. theresa knott 23:40, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: I agree!  As I have already documented in my polemic #1. 4 on my user pages:  Truly great encyclopedia articles are written by authors within their various fields of expertise.' -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 18:16, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: I would not be so quick to underrate your expertise in this field.  After all, I am often knocked by the non-existent medical scientism people for claiming to have expertise in the field of natural health.  Exactly how does one obtain expertise in a bullshit science by their rules anyway?  Buy a PhD degree from a paper mill?  Ha, ... Hah, Ha! -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 18:42, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: If I make the claim I'm a world expert in hydroxyquinoleinsulphonedimethylamminoquinizinology, and my buddy Jovanni D'Oe, founder of  L'Associazione Italiana  D'Hidroxiquinoleinsulphonedimethilamminoquinizinologia and Presidente Straordinario dell'XXV Congresso Internazionale d'Hidroxiquinoleinsulphonedimethilamminoquinizinologia calls me an expert on one website, that makes me an expert in hydroxyquinoleinsulphonedimethylamminoquinizinology and I should edit a Wikipedia article on this subject with a link to my website where I sell my essays. Right? Ah, but first I have to pretend I'm someone else and pour in Latin phrases such as mens sana in corpore sano and aquila non capit muscam. Oh, and then I shoud wait until Theresa contributes in the sodium chloride article that salt is used to improve taste in food, and then claim she's a danger to public health because she states salt is food and that she needs babysitting. How's that for an expert? philosophum non facit barba--192.94.73.22 21:25, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Stuff copied from Theresa Knott's talk page