Talk:2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup

message: according to the FIFA website, the montreal venue has not been decided, where did olympic stadium come from
:It was announced today. http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/U20WC_2007/ --Usgnus 23:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest changing it back to Olympic Stadium, per WP:UE, and include the French name in parentheses. After all, it is the English Wikipedia... I'll change it later if that's OK with you. Having said that, I agree, Stade Olympique sounds better :) --Gabbec 18:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Mmm, actually WP:UE refers to article naming rather than use of names within articles, but I think that the spirit is the same. In any case, including both doesn't hurt. --Gabbec 18:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  montreal venue 

message: When is the draw that decides which teams play in which pool? Kevlar67
Some time next month. Kingjeff 04:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The draw takes place on Saturday, March 3 in Toronto. Bigdottawa 15:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draw? 

message: Is Portugal really in Group C already? or did someone just add that for fun? Ô 18:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing Portugal from Group C until someone can give us proof. I highly doubt they are in Group C since the draw itself hasnt come out yet. We'll wait till March 3rd [this Saturday] to find out the actual draw and where each team is placed in the groups... Ô 20:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: ya, we bought tickets too...i hope toronto gets a lot of action. hopefully portugal and brazil will be in group C...btw, tickets sales are selling pretty fast. read this if you're interested  Ô 15:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Check the bottom of this article.  The only group that is mostly based in Toronto is C.  Bigdottawa 17:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  o, wow! thanks. interesting how they made that proposal Ô 17:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portugal.......Group C?? 

message: I see that FIFA say that Royal Athletic Park is the venue for the Victoria games. http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/U20M2007/tournament/0,5319,U20M-2007-35,00.html
However I believe this to be inaccurate. RAP seats fewer than 2000.  Even with massive construction (which has not started nor been discussed in the local media as of the end of Feburary) there isn't enough land to seat 14500 people at RAP.
When I bought my tickets for the tournament I was told that the games are at Centennial Stadium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Stadium
Ensslen 00:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria Venue 

message: i heard somewhere that North & South Korea will be competing as one team.
:I don't see how that's possible.  They qualified separately, and if they did compete as one team, it will leave the tournament with an unbalanced 23 teams. Bigdottawa 15:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  korea 

message: you guys print the fixtures without the TIME of the matches that`s important
:If you have the times of day, please add the information. Flibirigit 13:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  time 

message: Has anyone noticed that all of the national team links in this page point to the senior national team, not the U-20 national team? -- Chuq 11:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. The reasoning being few U-20 articles exist, and most are subsections of the national teams. Flibirigit 13:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  National team links 

message: It's best to edit with final results. Editing wins, losses and draws during the game is crystal balling which is against wikipedia policy. Kingjeff 21:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. If people want to edit the games taking place, they should add Ongoing in the score= parameter, instead of the score evolution; that can be deducted from the goal scorers. The final score should be added when the game ends. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 22:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing group tables

message: The article does not explain yet, merely hinting at the matter in the knock-out phase table, which 3rd place teams advance after group play finishes. What's the story?  Could an explict explanation be added to the text? -- Mareklug talk 03:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  3rd place in group play vs. moving on to knock-out rounds 

message: How about creating group-specific pages where more detailed information about every game played within that group could be properly displayed (e.g. team rosters, substitutions and cautions)? I don't fancy the way some of this information is being added in this main article, for example, mixing cautioned players with goalscorers. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 03:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the cautions had to bed added to explain the red card. It was not a direct red card. Kingjeff 03:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'm not referring to why the card was shown. I just don't think we should show that at all in this article. Something more like this. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 03:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It doesn't need to be exactly like it, only the basics are needed — standings table, fixtures results and detailed match info :) Parutakupiu talk || contribs 04:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Group subpages 

message: Is it just me or is "Korea DPR" North Korea? Since when do they let comunist nations participate? I think this is disgraceful, especially after recent political events that include threatening the western world, including North America, with weapons of mass destruction. Jonzo12 12:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: North Korea

message: I think we should use "National Soccer Stadium", because is what FIFA uses too!
Tell me what you think!
If so, we should change in the groups, not only in the "Venues"!
Luisfilipemiguel 20:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any reference to BMO field should change to National Soccer Stadium. Kingjeff 20:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already had done that yesterday, but an unknown IP editor undid my edits. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 21:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't the one who changed it, but I actually disagree. The name of the stadium is BMO Field, no matter what FIFA wants to believe. I think it would be simpler and more accurate to say BMO Field, but it appears I am in the minority, so no big deal. Jyardley 18:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: As far as I know, they're playing at BMO field down at the Ex?  There on earth is the "National Soccer Stadium?  I've never heard of it! Nfitz 23:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same place. FIFA won't allow sponsors names that aren't apart of the tournament. Kingjeff 23:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be FIFA's problem, not ours.  The name of the stadium is BMO field.  No one in this city has heard of "National Soccer Stadium".  Wikipedia should reflect reality, not some organisation's red tape. Nfitz 23:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reality is that it's called "National Soccer Stadium" for this tournament. This is an actual rule with FIFA. Kingjeff 00:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't something new. At the 2006 World Cup in Germany, the sponsor-named stadiums were also temporarily renamed to "FIFA World Cup Stadium", and even though everybody used the original names (obviously) it was the way the venues were officially referred to in the tournament. Anyway, the link directs to the article where the real name is big and bolded enough at the top. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 01:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BMO or National Soccer Stadium 

message: Shouldn't attendance be per session, not per match? There have been a lot of doubleheaders, and we shouldn't count that attendance twice. Jyardley 18:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attendance 

message: My apologies at not being able to figure out how to do this, but the link in the article for Terry Vaughn goes to the wrong Terry Vaughn.--ZoQuo 16:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terry Vaughn 

message: should a third color be added to the group stages (such as pink for teams that have been eliminated from being in the 4 best 3rd place teams?jb 01:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if the colored teams progress then the non-colored background (or default gray) means they didn't. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the issue is on which color will be used for Austria, I believe we should wait for Group A — and all the remaining — to finish ;) Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made some counts and mathematically Austria still has no secured "best 3rd place", if it loses and Congo goes 2nd. Both Zambia and Gambia still have to play a match, and can secure enough points (Gambia, 4 or 6pts; Zambia, 4 pts) to either move ahead of Austria or beat it on GD tiebreak. "It ain't over till the fat lady sings". OK, just forget what I said... Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:18, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elimination color 

message: The play-by-play section of the Portugal-Gambia match says that it was a own goal by Rui Patrício, but both the match report and match summary say it was a direct goal by Abdoulie Mansally. Where do we stand? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 00:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the game, it was a free kick and nobody touched the ball! That aint a own-goal! Luisfilipemiguel 02:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My feeling is the same. The keeper might have skimmed the ball under his arms but the way it got in from a free-kick doesn't make it an own goal. But FIFA isn't accurate on this case. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: And if FIFA is wrong? Last year they said that germany's 2nd goal (in the Germany 2006 third place game) was an own-goal. The ball just slightly touched Petit and FIFA "awards" him with an own-goal? Here is the same, but i think, and i saw (in TV) the game, Patricio don´t touched the ball. Should we stick with the official way or the right way?
That was the correct call. Petit directed it into the net. If we were to change it, it would have to be from a credible source. This would be hard to do since we also put match reports in FIFA Tournament articles. Kingjeff 15:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: But the ball was headed into the goal, maybe if Petit didn't touched the ball Ricardo would stop it, but nobody knows that! Not even FIFA! But ok, a year has paased, all is forgotten (at least for now).  In this case nobody touched the ball. I saw it again in the news and the ball crosses all the 18 yard box, hit the bar and enter! Maybe FIFA has other images, but the replays in the game, and after in the news, shows, no doubt, the ball passed and nobody touched it! Luisfilipemiguel 20:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Own goal? 

message: If someone could add what the meaning of U-20 is, that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.221.67.58 (talk) 
:"U-20" is short for "Under 20", which means that the tournament's players have to be younger than 20 years. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 23:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Born on 1 Jan 1987, or after that date (see article 20 of ). elpincha (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  U-20 Meaning 

message: There are several different ways to record the penalty shoot out, but there is still no standard fashion. Consider the following:
 
 
 
Jonzo12 21:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penalty Shoot-out 

message: The section, as originally written, is full of non-neutral language. I have tried to clean it up a bit. More will undoubtably be known in the coming days. Please remember to keep the section factual. Flyguy649 talk contribs 06:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit does contain wording like "apparently" because of the newness of the incident. Such wording will be removed when the facts become clear. Flyguy649 talk contribs 07:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fight post-Chile-Argentina match 

message: Wow, it would be nice if the Chilean supporters would make an attempt at maintaining neutrality on this one.  There are two sides to every story. Resolute 00:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And who exactly said that it didn't? Resolute 02:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: There are several statements, presented as facts, which are implausable:
#"A policewoman noticed this and threw a tear gas canister inside the bus." Toronto Police do not routinely carry tear gas, although they do carry pepper spray and Tasers (see below). This is not to say that the Chileans believed tear gas was used. Pepper spray is apparently very debilitating in close quarters.
#"Peralta claimed that after he regained consciousness, the police removed the TASER evidence from his back so the press wouldn't be able to see it." Again, although this may be his belief, that is what happens after a Taser is used: The two leads are removed from the victim/detainee, as they are no longer needed. This has nothing to do with hiding evidence. (I note this is also anonymously stated at the end of the section above).
Discuss away, but they should probably be removed or at the very least toned down. Flyguy649 talk contribs 00:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Further implausabilities in the Chilean players's account

message: There is a white flag where the flag of Mexico should be appearing. I noticed it isn't just this article. I'm here for the words 16:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the Commons original file was updated with a version that was recently uploaded by another user and the duplicate file tagged was added to the original file instead of the most recent one. Don't know if that was the reason, but it's fixed now. Paruta(l)kupiu 18:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  flag of Mexico? 

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thread_title:  Dead link 9 

message: someone repeatedly overwrites the countries in Round of Last-16 !!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maiō T. (talk • contribs) 21:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Final ranking 

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