Talk:Italian Wars

message: Someone with a good grasp of these events might expand this article, with a generous supply of Main article:... headings to blocks of text, and tie together many small articles on episodes (at "What links here" etc) within the general framework. The result? a great help to the Wikipedia reader. --Wetman 07:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions for expansion

message: By 1503, Louis, having been defeated at the Battle of Cerignola and Battle of Garigliano, was forced to withdraw from Naples, which was left under the control of the Spanish viceroy, Ramon de Cardona.
Was this particular viceroy not Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba? qp10qp 23:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, looks like that's a mistake, as Córdoba apparently remained as viceroy until 1507. Kirill Lokshin 00:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Which viceroy?

message: If no one minds, I'd like to increase the "Italy 1494" map size here to at 250px from the recently down-sized 200px.  I try to design maps and their text at a sufficient size to be read directly within the article.  As I mention on my User Page, I believe that the maps should be tailored to the article so that, for example, the reader easily find specific locations (e.g. Naples) without having to click 2 or 3 times to get a map close-up.
Which is a long-winded way to saying that the map does best at 250px (or higher), so I'd like to move it up a bit in size in no one minds.  MapMaster 03:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, sure, that seems fine; the 350px was a little wide, though. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 04:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It's more detailed, certainly; but also more difficult to read unless it's expanded to its full size.  I'm not sure which factor is more important, particularly since this article isn't really written at a depth where a lot of the detail would be directly referenced. Kirill [talk] [prof] 15:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  If you don't mind . . . 

message: I'm pretty sure the Spaniards weren't using Tercio tactics in the Italian wars - they were certainly putting the Arquebusiers to good effect, but Michael Howard puts the date of the reorganisation into 3000 men tercios at 1534, and Jose Gonzalez de Leon at 1536. Either way, I think the Tercios came a little later. Do you want me to perhaps do a little rewrite to accomodate this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.233.135 (talk • contribs) 
:The early stuff was not true tercios, certainly; but the Italian Wars lasted until 1559, well into the period when the actual tercio had developed.  
:(Having said that, the mention of tercios in 1521 seems to be slightly anachronistic—at least without further explanation—so I've removed it.) Kirill Lokshin 23:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  <i>Tercio </I> tactics? 

message: I don't see how specifying the HRE as a location versus "Germany" is the more helpful option here; the HRE at the time is not a monolithic or even clearly defined geographic entity, and includes both components that are already subsumed in the other listed locations (e.g. Milan, Tuscany) as well as components that had nothing to do with the wars (e.g. Bohemia). Kirill Lokshin 15:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HRE as location 

message: Should we perhaps add a 'causus belli' to the chart? Most battles and war articles have them.--Chopin-Ate-Liszt! 05:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Causes?

message: Scotland and Saxony are listed as belligerents but no mention is made of their role - presumably a minor one? At what point were they involved, on which side, and engaged in which locations? 78.32.103.197 (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scotland/Saxony 

message: From the article:
:In 1519, a Spanish invasion of Navarre, nominally a French fief, provided Francis with a pretext for starting a general war; French forces flooded into Italy and began a campaign to drive Charles from Naples.
Is this true?  This was added way back in 2005 with Kirill Lokshin's original expansion of the article, but according to the article on War of the League of Cambrai#Holy League, this invasion occurred in 1512.  The Kingdom of Navarre article backs that up, and lists that as the date when Ferdinand takes over most of Navarre.  Was there some new provocation in 1519?  Or are one of these article's dates wrong?  (I ask because I recently spun out the Spanish conquest of Iberian Navarre article from Kingdom of Navarre, and if anything happened in 1519, it should probably be put in there.  But I can't find anything on that, only the French invasion in 1521.)
Also, I think "fief" might be a bit strong.  Navarre was a client state of France, I'd say - completely dependent on France for its survival, but nominally independent.  At least that's my understanding?  (Again, could be wrong here.) SnowFire (talk) 07:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure you're right and this article is wrong; Francis used the d'Albret claim to Navarre as a pretext in 1519–21, but Navarre was, in fact, already in Spanish hands by then. Kirill (prof) 14:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish invasion of Navarre in 1519? 

message: "were a series of conflicts from 1494 to 1559 that involved, at gaygaygay== Prelude =="
Please revert the obvious vandalism by 124.181.19.97  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.89.209.115 (talk) 11:06, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I see that this page feature a map way too imprecise, many little italian states are missing, like the Principality of Piombino, the county of Gorizia or the County of Guastalla and the duchy of Mirandola, whereas  :File:Italia._Cambiamenti_territoriali_(1495-1535).png features them, albeit opening the eyes wide. Nevertheless, the current map is way more readable. What should be done to address such issue in your opinion?--Nickanc (talk) 22:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps 

message: The article French invasions of Italy (Renaissance Wars) seems to be a content fork of this article? --Xaiver0510 (talk) 05:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a [[WP:CONTENTFORK]] for the article [[French invasions of Italy (Renaissance Wars)]] 

message: French invasions of Italy (Renaissance Wars) is simply a WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Doug Weller talk 11:52, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge - Similar content --Xaiver0510 (talk) 13:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[French invasions of Italy (Renaissance Wars)]] with this article 

message: The introductions says "Following his liberation, Francis I initiated a new war in Italy during which mutinous Germanic troops of Lutheran faith sacked Rome (1527) and expelled the Medici from Florence". Something does not make sense and the sequence is not right. The Medici were expelled from Florence between 1494 and 1512. Francis I was captured at the Battle of Pavia in 1525 and the sack of Rome occurred in 1527. A revision/correction is definitely necessary.
ICE77 (talk) 02:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Should now be correct Robinvp11 (talk) 16:49, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect sequence/information 

message: I would love to know what weapons they used 69.40.55.114 (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weaponry