Talk:Inglourious Basterds

message: In the lead section, it is stated that the film received "widespread acclaim". However, the contents of the Critical reception section are dominated by negative receptions about how the film offended some critics. Please fix it. enjoyer -- talk 15:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, a Metacritic 69 isn't exactly "widespread acclaim." I'll change it.--Somarain (talk) 18:02, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased reception section 

message: The mention of the critical reception in the lede doesn't match the critical reception section in the body. The lede says "The film received widespread acclaim, with praise for Tarantino's screenplay, direction and performances." The body mentions a 69 Metacritic score ("generally favorable reviews") and quite a bit of criticism, mostly over the historical fiction elements. I changed the lede to "The film received a mostly positive response. Critics praised the performances and Tarantino's screenplay and direction, but some criticized the historical liberties taken." to better summarize the body. I'm sure that could be phrased better but it's a start. --Somarain (talk) 18:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critic section of the lede 

message: paragraph beginning with "the film's title was inspired by the english-language title of director Enzo" has some rough bits, specifically "the Germans di not want a word" and then some incorrect(?) reference inserts. I am not good enough at wikipedia to edit this myself.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.65.5.186 (talk) 09:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  final paragraph under 'development' 

message: Dear, Samurai Kung fu Cowboy do you carefully watched the movie? I do not agree that there were some "Nazis" in that scene, there is no reliable source about this and even internal dialogues contradict this statement. In that scene there were ordinary soldiers from the Wehrmacht about whose political preferences absolutely nothing was known, with the same success they could be called "communists" or "liberal-democrats", for example. This scene is the nearly same of the scene from the first chapter. In it, the allies commit war crimes against innocent people from among the prisoners of war, who were labeled "Nazis", by analogy with how Hans Landa from the first scene called the Jews "rats" in order to get the moral right to "hunt" and kill them. This is the opinion of many reviewers of this film and nearly all who ever watched that film because it's so obvious. This film is a product of a postmodern deconstructive experiment satire on American films of the past where there is a "good" attractive-hero side and a nasty-"bad" villainous side (plus a bunch of references to westerns). Not surprisingly, according to the script here, the most charismatic, educated and intelligent character here is the Nazi Hans Landa, and the most unpleasant, cruel and ridiculous are the "Basterds" led by the character of Brad Pitt. Therefore, there is no point in the vague term "Nazis" that draws in the reader's imagination the SS or Gestapo who only do what they commit war crimes and at least in some part "deserved" the fate of the participants in the scene. HernánCortés1518 (talk) 21:25, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, you seem like a Nazi sympathizer who's trying to defend them. Tarantino's intentions were nuanced for sure but never intended to sympathize for the Nazis. And regardless of our interpretation the plot and characters in the film are straight forward and they are Nazis. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 22:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You are talking about an analysis of the film. Not a plot synopsis. And you are welcome to argue whatever you want but personal analysis and original research are not used in a plot synopsis or anywhere on a Wikipedia page. Honestly the language is neutral. The German soldiers who fought in WWII are referred to commonly as Nazi soldiers and fought for the Nazi party and to further their cause. However, even if that was not the case it is how they were referred to and portrayed as in the film. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 20:43, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

text: Also, in order to change anything from a common term like Nazi or Nazi soldier especially when it's the language used in the film is going to take more than one more opinion. It would take consensus most likely from quite a number of editors and seasoned editors. Personal? To refer to Nazi soldiers as Nazis in a plot synopsis of a film in which they are referred to as Nazis? Or personal to want to change that in to something else based on a personal analysis? Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

text: I'd also like to say I was overboard in calling you a Nazi sympathizer. However, arguing for and changing Nazi in a WWII film seemed odd. German soldiers in WWII were Nazi soldiers and honestly this film's synopsis seems odd. And I definitely believe Tarantino isn't making the German soldiers out to not be Nazis. I do not agree with your analysis. But again, neither of our analyses matter right now. All that matters is common language and more importantly how they are referred to in the film. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 20:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please indent your comments per preferred Wikipedia formatting rather than bulleting your comments. We don't use citations in plot synopses. Other Wikipedias aren't relevant as they have different standards. But they are referred to as Nazis in the film which is our source. We don't cite it as it is readily available for anyone to watch including you. You can watch the film and see that the Basterds readily refer to them as Nazis and that they are about instilling fear in and "scalping Nazis." Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 00:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

text: At this point it is safe to say you are arguing that the plot synopsis of this film's article should reflect sympathies for Nazi soldiers and assume that they were both ignorant of the atrocities and didn't believe in Nazism regardless of the fact that they are Nazi soldiers. You are then also assuming that these fictional characters referred to as Nazis are not so based on the fact that historically speaking some Nazi soldiers did not believe in Nazism but fought for it anyway. That is not universally historically accurate. It would depend on the individual soldier although they were still fighting for that cause. However, this film isn't even historical. It exists in its own fictional universe and in this universe, regardless of history, these soldiers are referred to as Nazis. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 00:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nazis" vs "German soldiers" 

message: The article’s subheading, “Explanatory Notes,” states as fact that Landa is aware that Mimieux is Shoshanna in disguise. The only source cited for this information is an article on ScreenRant. This site and this article are not any sort of authoritative sources, and I don’t believe that this sort of conjecture belongs on the Wikipedia article. Pitfoolery (talk) 17:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for Landa Recognizing Shoshanna