Talk:Drag racing

message: In the opening paragraph, the drag racing record is listed as "4.428 seconds with a speed of 336.15 miles per hour." I don't know what the REAL record is, but it sure isn't that. NHRA's website lists a 3.835 s ET and 319.75 through the trap at the Thunder Valley event.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.173.129 (talk) 23:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In 2008, after the death of Scott Kalita in a funny car crash the NHRA changed the distance for top fuel and funny cars from the 60 year old standard of 1320 feet to 1000 feet. This is what has caused the seeming two record records. contributed by topenddave (who attended his first dragrace at the santa ana, ca wwII airport in 1949 at the age of five)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.13.191 (talk) 10:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Opening Paragraph/Record"

message: The link to "Stock" in the list of drag racing classes goes to "Stock" as the shares you own in a company, shares bought on the stock market.  I don't know enough about Wikipedia to fix that.
Editor1023 (talk) 14:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Stock" link

message: I've been drag racing for over 25 years now, and I'm also somewhat of a writer. I think if we clean it up a little and add some pictures and a couple of more sections, this could make the 'featured article' list. Cliff is cool
I was thinking about grabbing a picture of a christmas tree today, but since it's late I couldn't think of anywhere to get it that wouldn't be a copyvio.  I'll do some searching when I'm more awake. Mo0[talk] 05:13, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: Good work, Cliff. --Pmeisel 22:15, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent adds 

message: Some more information on the popularity of the sport would be nice.  Also, I'm a bit confused by the sentence "Drag racing originated in the United States and is still the most popular there" in the first paragraph.  The most popular what there?  Kind of car race?  Or does it mean "and is still most popular [relative to other countries] there"?  --LostLeviathan 14:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to comment on the same part of the intro.  I really don't think drag racing is extremely popular in the US, and if not I don't see how it woud be "very popular" in the countries listed if it's not as popular as it is here.  The article doesn't really provide any support for the claims of popularity given in the intro, either --Sketchee 19:29, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: NHRA Drag Racing has the second highest attendance per event in the US. Number one is NASCAR, number 3 is NFL football, so your assessment that it is not popular is incorrect. This statistic is available many places on the internet www.ipi.com.au/ipi/IPI.nsf/LookupPDF/kmsb/$file/kmsb.pdf is one such spot. 2003 Drag Race attendance was about 93,000 per event, higher that NFL football event attendance.  Jcurtis3 11:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity 

message: the whole drag racing section, this article, the individual top fuel, top alcohol, etc. articles, etc. really need a big reorganization. I might get around to it sometime, but if anyone wants to jump in now, feel free.......Gzuckier 03:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the "also popular in" sentence is a bit weird. When did greece join the Carribean? -- 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More cleanup needed 

message: The sentence "At any given time there are over 325 drag strips operating world-wide." is interesting but is it verifiable? --antilived T | C 09:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The name sounds familiar. Is that a narrow 2-lane, no tree, Deep South? I've heard that's the last "original" strip still operating, heads-up only, RWYB. If N, I'd compare Pomona or Ontario; could be Great Lakes is oldest still in operation.  Trekphiler 04:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

text: The Great Bend, Kansas World War II military training facility airport (laid out as a very large triangle, as was the design of many of these central states facilities) was the site of the first NHRA national drag racing meet in 1955, and one of the three runways has been used for drag racing continuously, since then.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.87.243 (talk) 03:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Great Lakes Dragaway is in Union Grove, Wisconsin... don't know if it is the oldest but it has a good claim.  I know Inyokern Airport held that distinction for many years but according to its article drag racing no longer takes place there.  As for the Deep South strip, you may be thinking of George Ray's Wildcat Hot Rod Dragstrip in Arkansas, not the oldest (opened 1961) but perhaps the most old-fashioned. Great Bend, KA  hosted the first NHRA Nationals in '55 (same year Great Lakes) but I don't know if it has been continually operating. Cdh1984 15:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: George Ray's sounds right. I caught a TV piece on it. I guess it meant the oldest (or only) still running "classic" style races. (I gotta say, that kind of track looks mighty damn dangerous to me, raised on mod NHRA style, complete with Safety Safari!)  Trekphiler 12:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The NHRA has about 140 tracks, a quick count on the IHRA website showed a little less than a hundred, so 350 worldwide is probably close.
"At any given time" reads oddly, I think, as if dragstrips are continually popping in and out of existence. Surely all this sentence needs to say is "There are over 325 operating dragstrips in the world.". 132.244.246.25 (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verifiable? 

message: Has anyone ever heard "silhouette" used in a drag racing context?  Here in the UK I've only ever heard it used with regards to circuit racing, in particular GT cars.  I've been a regular at drag racing meetings for 17 years and have never heard a commentator, fan or racer use the expression.  Cdh1984 15:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard it (rarely, on U.S. TVcasts) to describe the Pro Stock cars because they resemble stockers (the same way NASCAR racers are silhouette cars). It's not common even here.  Trekphiler 12:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Look at the current bodies being used on NHRA Funny Cars. They're all virtually identical, no resemblance at all to any production vehicle. It's like how NASCAR has gone to using identical bodies for "Dodge", "Ford", "Chevy" and "Toyota". The only differences are the engines, but the way the rules are the engines are becoming closer to identical. Now they've gone to 1,000 foot, I don't care to watch it anymore.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.232.94.33 (talk) 04:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Silhouette?

message: Sounds awkward. Shawnc 03:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Drag Racing For The Uninformed" 

message: Does someone want to add a section on sand drag racing?  I am creating the page sand drag, describing a pile of sand at the end of a railway siding, and intend to disambig link it here. FiggyBee 12:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sand Drag 

message: For some reason there is no description or definition of a Dragster anywhere - the word "dragster" leads to the "Drag racing" page, and the different classes of vehicles are defined but there does not seem to be a way for anyone not acquainted with the sport to find out:
*what a dragster IS
*what a dragster LOOKS like
*how a dragster differs from similar vehicles (e.g. Funny Cars, Hot Rods)
Simon Beck
London, UK
The definition and appearance of a dragster has been rather consistent over several decades of drag racing: 1) all wheels are open, that is no fenders; 2) the wheelbase is substantially greater than any production automobile; 3) the engine is open to view; 4) often, only the driver's compartment is enclosed with a body, though the lengthy, narrow nose may be enclosed, as well; 5) the rear tires are the widest and largest of all drag racing tires;  6) the front tires are the narrowest of all drag racing tires; 7) the front wheels do not have brakes.68.97.87.243 (talk) 03:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to http://www2.newton.mec.edu/~mike_sylvia/DRAGSTERS/glossary.html : "A type of car designed for a quarter-mile race from a standing start, against time or another car." Crabapplecove 23:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Good catch. I added dragster & dial-in to the glossary. Hope it helps.  Trekphiler 12:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: if you added it, someone took it back out.--199.243.252.196 17:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragster - no definition 

message: The article says Jrs that breakout are "ejected from the entire race". Meaning the event? Or what? (I'm unfamiliar with Jr, but I'd guess "event".) Can somebody who knows clarify?  Trekphiler 12:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seat ejector?

message: The article says:
:"The sport has taken off so much in recent times areas with no drag racing facilities have converted urban roads into drag strips."
Where? In the U.S. in the last couple of decades, tracks have been closing all over the place. Has something changed? What's the source for that claim? (From the tome & emphasis on European racing, I'd guess Britain or Sweden.) Trekphiler 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Give him a citation

message: Are Pro Mod IHRA only, or what? Clarify? Also, are turbos banned entire? I seem to recall IHRA allows them. Trekphiler 13:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The [[Pomona International Raceway|Pomona]] sanction

message: I added this:
:"The FIAT Topolino was the first to be exploited this way, in the notorious AA/FA, or Altered, followed by the more conventional modified VW Beetle."
Altereds are still being run in nostalgia events; I don't know who sanctions them. NHRA banned them long ago.  Trekphiler 13:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What does AA/FA stand for? FA is Fuel (nitromethane) Altered, but what's the AA? There was also AA/FC. 66.232.94.33 (talk) 04:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a class identifier. Exactly what the limits are, you'd have to ask NHRA, but it appears to be the top class for fuel cars; the gas & alky cars seem to be "A"s, AFAI can tell. (By no means expert.)  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  07:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I recall from the old days...The "AA" denotes supercharged with nitromethane "A" denotes naturally aspirated with nitro. "BB" would be gasoline supercharged and so on.=Motorhead (talk) 01:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds right, except I think BB was alky; IIRC, the gas classes were "ranked" lower. "G"? Or "C"?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  01:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Altered]] states

message: Since when is redlighted ="bulbed"? I've never heard it.  Trekphiler 07:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Planting a bulb

message: I agree, this article could benifit from a rewrite, and the estimated horsepower stuff NEEDS TO GO ENTIRELY! In response to your issue with the numbers being underated, I think the author was trying to give an estimate for STREET cars that you would see at the drag strip. BMan1113VR 01:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the estimated horsepower section is really bad. Jcurtis3 11:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Outdated/inaccurate information

message: The article claims:
:"One of the negative side-effects of sport compact drag racing is the cheaper cars involved are often raced (illegally) on the street,"
If this was true, the existence of bracket racing would have created a persistent, mass menace. It seems to me somebody's drawn a false causality, but I don't know enough about the history of the sport compacts to correct it. If somebody does, please fix this. Thanks.  Trekphiler 07:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is that a {{Fact|date=April 2008}}?

message: I have been driving super comp and super pro for 6 years now. 
From beginning to end, I just don't think this whole article is very good. It doesn't seem to really have that much to do with U.S. drag racing. 
The NHRA has a pretty good description of drag racing on their site. Maybe they would let you copy it. 
The section on the power of various engines is just nonsense.
Nitrous Purge is stated like a part of the race. NHRA doesn't allow nitrous.
Also, maybe we could split somehow into a U.S. section and an international section. There are just too many term in this article that nobody in U.S. drag racing would be familiar with. 
"most will not have cooling radiators or fans"  What??? That's not correct.
"The sport has taken off so much in recent times areas with no drag racing facilities have converted urban roads into drag strips." I don't think there is a single case of this in the United States
Do you really need blow, blower, and blown as three unique terms in the glossary.
I would be happy to contribute and make some corrections, but I don't want to jump into someone else's project. Let me know?
Jcurtis3 15:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm generally agreed. It sounds like it's written by a teen in Sweden or someplace. I've been a casual drag racing fan & hot rod buff for years, but I don't know enough to fix many of the problems; I'm doing what I can. That glossary is mainly mine, & I presumed a reader with total ignorance. If you can help, Jcurtis, jump in! It's not "someone else's project", it's for everybody. Welcome!  Trekphiler 07:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Problems 

message: A sentence in this section claims "The ideal time to shift is at the peak power point."  Any one care to comment on this, or even better provide a citation? 190.124.23.21 18:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Race 

message: I'd love to see some 0-60 times. —Steve Summit (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe they have a way to measure that- I've never seen such times given with drag racing results.  Automotive magazines test that of course but they're not generally testing drag cars.  Friday (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'd say it's time for some enterprising Wikipedian to do some Original Research, then!  0-60 is just one data point; what we clearly need are some graphs of typical velocity and acceleration as a function of distance (or of course distance versus time, from which the other two could be derived), for both the eighth mile and quarter mile, for various classes of dragsters.  Anybody game? —Steve Summit (talk) 19:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be that's a request for 60' times, which are on the NHRA timeslips. (IHRA, too, I'd guess.)  TREKphiler hit me ♠  12:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performance facts 

message: How does a dragster's engine keep cool if there's no radiator?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.104.50 (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cooling 

message: * Disagree - The merger between this article Drag racing and Abu Dhabi Drag Race is not appropriate for this article.  -Signaleer (talk) 21:15, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Abu Dhabi Drag Race 

message: Lifted this from here, but can't source it. Anybody?
:"Variants of the Chrysler Hemi are still used today by Top Fuel and are now producing over 8000 horsepower (6 MW)."
It looks right, & I know aluminum hemis are still in common use.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  20:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Factcheck

message: Haven't the tracks been shortened to 1000 ft?  What's this 1/4 mile stuff?  I thought that was all changed long ago.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.62.231 (talk) 01:13, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Only Top Fuel and Fuel Funny Car classes in NHRA run a 1000-foot pass.  All other classes still run the full quarter mile. --Alan (talk) 05:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm watching NHRA qualifying right now, June 5, 2010 at Joliet, IL and it looks like they're running all classes including Pro Stock (doorslammers) and bikes at 1,000 feet. Is 1,000 feet new for 2010? I'm hoping the fans demand a return to 1/4 mile! 66.232.94.33 (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  1000 ft tracks 

message: Seem sensible to centralise minor articles on different forms of drag racing here, at least until the section develops. --Haruth (talk) 08:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeh, it's pretty stubby, doesn't even mention which sanctioning body.  Merge it in.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  17:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

text: *Concur - the section needs references to support it first, though.  --Alan (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal - Outlaw 632

message: rocket sleds?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_sled  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGARBAGEmanCAN (talk • contribs) 04:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What part of that qualifies as drag racing...?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  14:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides, last I knew, rocket sleds were no longer manned.  In fact, from what I've been able to glean from a really fast 'Net search, they're only still in use in one place: Great Britain, at the Martin-Baker company when they're testing new ejection seat designs. And they use mannequins. At any rate, I changed the wording to "fastest accelerating manned vehicles" to avoid potential issues about this. --Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 15:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fastest Accelerating?

message: Just noticed that Google Earth caught a drag racing event in progress at Odi Raceway/Airfield in South Africa.  25°32'59.34"S  27°56'49.67"E --NJR_ZA (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: There is the IDRC (Import Drag Racing Circuit) that holds events around the country that is becoming popular, why is this not on the list of Drag circuits?
www.importdrag.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.102.16.186 (talk) 21:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Import Drag Racing 

message: Suggest removing classes and other rulebook quotes- they do not define drag racing. Entire entry needs to be trimmed and rewritten to not look like a car magazine article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faris oxide (talk • contribs) 11:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree on classes. This is an important aspect of the sport, & leaving it out is incomplete at best. Some of the detail might go, but all of it? No.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  12:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: More Clean Up

message: There's only one major race event in the United States that runs four-wide, and that's the NHRA VisitMyrtleBeach.com Four-Wide Nationals at Zmax Dragway in Concord. There may still be some local-level snowmobile races scattered around, but those would be hard to track down or verify since they'd only get coverage in local newspapers (if even there). Four-wide racing might be worth a line or two of mention in the main article, but since it's so limited in scope, maybe it would fit better in either the NHRA article, or just in the 2011 NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series season article (where it gets a good description now). --Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 13:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't unheard of in the early days, but since it's gotten organized & there've been actual rules, no. Worth mention, yes, but I really doubt it's common enough to put in the lead.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  21:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four-wide racing 

message: Classes should be removed as they do not add to the definition drag racing any more than any sports rule book adds to the definition of the sport (example: a ground-rule double does not in any way define baseball).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faris oxide (talk • contribs) 01:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the page is supposed to be something like comprehensive coverage of the subject & not just the very bare essentials, I'd disagree. Would you omit the divisions or leagues in an article on baseball? I doubt it. That's the equivalent.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  01:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Classes

message: While Daniyal Fateh, Ali Haider (evidently a different one...), Shahryar Mirza, Zohaib Ahmed, Hassan Jutt, & Ch Hashem may not strictly need to be named on this page, if they're really significant in North Asian drag racing circles, they deserve their own pages.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  18:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the right lane...

message: Why does this article have no mention of the world record times, except for the electric record? David W. Hogg (talk) 21:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you've got a reliable source with the current record(s), feel free to add 'em.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  21:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  World records 

message: I don't know that this question should necessarily be addressed by this entry, though I think it probably should be.  In any case, I've been wondering about it for decades now:  just what the heck does it mean when the Such-and-Such Raceway stages its "nationals"?  Actually, it seems that darned near every drag race I've ever watched on TV, large or small, is termed "nationals".  Well, national WHAT?  And "nationals" as opposed to WHAT?  That is, I never see any drag race series called "locals", so what's the deal with all this "nationals" stuff?  I've even heard one trophy described as being for the "U.S. Nationals" competition--isn't that seriously redundant?  And why oh why is it plural (i.e., nationals, rather than national) ?  Again, you don't have to adjust the article to account for this--I'd just be happy if one of you dragster buffs would satisfy this long-held curiosity of mine!  
Oh, and one comment:  above it's cited that drag racing is the #2 spectator sport in the country.  I too have often heard that NASCAR is #1--alas, from my perspective!--but if drag racing was indeed truly #2, wouldn't ESPN have a LOT more coverage in high-visibility timeslots, instead of only featuring it on ESPN2, and only off-hours during weekends, or sometimes during the week, but only during the overnight?
Thanks in advance for any answering data regarding both subjects!  [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN
:♠The Nats are just an event name, the NHRA marker for an event they're running (IDK if IHRA does this, too), rather than an event run by the local track owner or a local/regional organizer, or an exhibition. It means national names are coming, & the points chase is in play.
:♠Spectator counts are a bit suspect, so I'm not sure I'd give it much credence. Also, what gets on ESPN is about ratings, not number of spectators; if it was, shooting sports would trump the likes of golf, since there are more competitors for them than spectators for golf (among numerous others). Golf, however, has great demographics, & advertisers love it...& that gets, & keeps, keeps it on.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 05:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basic question from a casual spectator... 

message: The description given for a christmas tree in the article seems to be for a pretty rare light set. The only kind i've ever seen and the kind that'll show up in the majority when you do a google search is the kind that has two sets of two small lights for pre stage / stage. As seen here: http://evostreetracers.org/christmas_tree.jpg 
Could this be incorporated into the article?
Dwerg85 (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed (& I should have changed it long ago :( ). I've never seen the blue light tree anywhere, & your linked one is nearer the one in the lead photo (& much more typical AFAIK). If you've got a good, clear shot of the tree (& no copyvio ;p), add it in.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 18:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well i'm the photographer for our local track, so I'll take one next time I'm there and release it so there's not copyright issues. --Dwerg85 (talk) 21:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Added the image to the christmas tree standalone page. Feel free to add it to this one if you wish. --Dwerg85 (talk) 23:55, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas tree 

message: Seriously, isn't that the simplest question here?    And it is not answered. Huw Powell (talk) 06:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  But whence the word "drag"? 

message: I reverted this edit, which removed a bunch of breakout content from the article (but missed some, which could make the article confusing). I don't see a problem with including breakout rules in this article, but maybe it could be done in a better way - maybe in a separate section? --Fru1tbat (talk) 13:31, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The section could be better organized, but a separate one for breakout exceptions seems a bit off. What might be useful is subheaders for class descriptions, since breakout doesn't apply in all of them. That gets away from the basics, tho...  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 17:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breakout 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Neither is the record and 100 foot record and 1/4 mile record are 2 different things.
Everyone seems to havbe forgotten that fuel prices contributed to the 1000 ft idea also.
Also  no one does 1000ft except top fuel in nhra. 67.246.120.54 (talk) 02:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  1000 feet and speed et record 

message: turbos are banmed from promod??
lay off the meth.(don't mean methanol either) 67.246.120.54 (talk) 02:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  turbos 

message: US 30 dragstrip was not located in Gary, Indiana. Technically it was in unincorporated Lake County, but it was closest to Merrillville, Indiana. I suggest changing the reference to "near Merrillville, Indiana". --Westwind273 (talk) 04:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  US 30 Dragstrip Location