Talk:SKS

message: Is this weapon the same as the SKS Carbine?  Lefty 15:55, 2004 Jul 16 (UTC)
I think the SKS Carbine is a variant.  Need to research further. Lord Bodak 20:50, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no SKS Carbine. Some of the producers of the SKS call it a carbine (Type 56 Carbine)
Why was the mergefrom SKS Carbine removed?  They are the same rifle and should be combined into one article. Lord Bodak 15:43, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: I've brought over everything good and wholesome from SKS Carbine and turned that page into a redirect here. A lot of it was copied straight from an external website, however, so I have rewritten, chopped, expanded and so forth. -Ashley Pomeroy 23:04, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 18 USC 922(r) has nothing to do with the 1994 assault weapons ban, which primarily impacted only domestic rifles (contrary to popular misconception).  Legislation enacted in 1989 and 1990 by George H.W. Bush banned importation of assault weapons and parts.  It also made it illegal to build a rifle that would be illegal to import.  Putting a detachable magazine onto an SKS makes it fall into the category of a weapon that would be illegal to import, and nullifies any protections you enjoyed under the C&R designation.  The BATFE has made determinations that adding a detachable magazine does indeed run afoul of 18 USC 922(r) and as such would be a felonious modification to the SKS.  The import assault weapons ban is still very much in effect (this is why you still can't import a semi-auto AK47!) Magnus 15:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: The law is ambiguous, but in general, if you modify a C&R rifle like the SKS, you lose C&R status and thus the rifle is illegal to possess unless it qualifies under 18 USC 922(r).  Since that law requires a certain number of American parts, a stock SKS with one part change will not qualify. Lord Bodak 23:45, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Carbine

message: Since SKS is a TLA, isn't some kind of disambiguation needed? I can think of at least one other use of SKS - synchronised key server in OpenPGP. Alphax τεχ 03:40, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation needed 

message: The SKS is indeed a carbine.  The only variants that can be considered rifles are the Yugoslav M59/66 and M59/66A1 due to the length of the flash suppressor/muzzle brake/grenade launcher attachment.  I have changed "rifle" to "carbine".  I have also updated a few facts... mainly about it being used as a hunting rifle.  There are now reloading components and brand name ammunition available that are suitable for hunting.  I have also corrected the misnomer about it being an assault rifle because it does not meet all the requirements for being a true assault rifle. (IMHO - call it as it is...If it doesn't meet all the criteria for the terminology, then it doesnt' fit and the terminology shouldn't be used)
:The length of the weapon has nothing to do with its classification as a rifle or carbine. A carbine is defined as a small arm that fires a round intermediate between a traditional rifle cartridge and a pistol round. 99.232.219.131 (talk) 01:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Clarifications 

message: 7/14/2006 - Extensive edit. CynicalMe 15:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing

message: I have just (within the past hour) seen pictures here showing two different N. Korean SKS models (one standard, one designed for use with a detachable grenade launcher) and also pictures of Vietnamese SKSs.  I have added this information to those listings under variants.  Exciting stuff! CumbiaDude 09:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Info about N. Korean & Vietnamese

message: Stop reverting and rereverting picture of Vietcong with an SKS. Personally, I think the picture is totally relevant and interesting; moreover, I do not see any "anti-Vietnamese propaganda" in it. --Alexander Ivashkin 12:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There is nothing racist about a picture of a soldier carrying a military rifle. It's completely relevant to the article. If someone doesn't agree with it they need to come talk about it here instead of playing revert games. Lord Bodak 13:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey! Enough with the revert war!!! 

message: "Yugoslav models do not have chrome lined barrels since the country lacked large chromium deposits. Yugoslavia produced M95 and M85 AK derivative rifles that had chrome lined barrels, so this is quite peculiar. Even though Yugoslavia was governed by communists at one time, it had unreliable relations with the USSR. The USSR was one of the largest exporters of chromium."
Let's try to rectify this, starting here: http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=25489.0
192.52.41.66 00:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well hello there unsourced statements! Unchromed Yugo SKS barrels. 

message: If anyone is wondering why this article is so awful now, it's because I had to cull the article of direct word-for-word copyright violations from here. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 17:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked a little deeper into this, and it looks like they copied us. If you look at our article on the M14 rifle and compare it to theirs, you'll also see similarities. Now, I don't think that we could have possibly copied two articles without finding out, so I'd say it's a bigger possibility that they copied our articles. For that reason I've restored the article back to before it was culled. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvios 

message: -Thanks
Reddog1083 (talk) 21:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shaocaholica, what supplies / process did you use for your redone SKS? 

message: The picture of the Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 whose caption says it has a folding bayonet and a grenade launcher does not appear to actually have a grenade launcher.  I've adjusted the caption accordingly.  If I'm mistaken and somehow missing it, please revert.  I inadvertently submitted the edit before I fixed the comments, so they won't be much use to you.
--Nuncio (talk) 23:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It has a rifle grenade launcher attached to the muzzle. I fixed the caption to reflect this. — DanMP5 05:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 Caption 

message: The second sentence in this article reads, "SKS is an acronym for Samozaryadnyj Karabin sistemy Simonova..."; however, the letters "SKS" actually form an **abbreviation** rather than "a word created from the first letters of each word in a series of words" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism). I do not feel comfortable editing the original verbiage and ask that the author or other authorized editor make this correction. Keep up the good work. Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.117.26.151 (talk) 04:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the link you gave, BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation, DNA: deoxyribonucleic acid, OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer, are all acronyms, so why not SKS? (Hohum @) 10:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbreviation vs Acronym 

message: There seems to be a bit of an edit war on whether the SKS is a "scaled down version" of the SVT-40 or the PTRS-41. The fact is, all three rifles were designed by Simonov.
I propose that this sentence remain removed from this entry. If it is to be re-included, please cite an authoritative source showing that the design of the SKS was derived from the design of the SVT-40 or PTRS-41. Lwsimon (talk) 15:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lineage of the SKS - SVT-40 vs. PTRS-41 

message: Based on the SKS (disambiguation) page content, it seems that "SKS" is a widely-used acronym across different fields.
So I suggest to move it to SKS (Semi-automatic Rifle) and pointing SKS to the disambiguation page. (TNX to L1A1 FAL)
Cheers,
Mjdtjm (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the others opinions about moving this article to [[SKS (Semi-automatic Rifle)]] ? 

message: I believe that this photo was taken of a wax figure at a museum exhibit. While I don't think that this alone disqualifies this image...it should be discussed and the caption should state so. If you look closely you will see that the face is too shiny and there is no loose soil on the ground or walls. Also, the hands, feet, knees and elbows are clean...which is not possible for someone crawling around tunnels. And, the bolt is locked open which would only allow dirt into the action in this environment.--71.22.156.40 (talk) 01:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that the source is the US Army Signal Corps and it is part of a series of 37 contemporary photos (and I've looked at most) which are genuine, I would say that isn't the case. His feet and clothes are dirty. The bolt may be locked because that is the way the US soldiers handed the empty rifle to the prisoner while they took the photo. In any event, unless there is a source for this being wax that would fall under original research to challenge that source. — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Yes, they are here. — Berean Hunter (talk) 23:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Hmm. Use this link first and then click on "Part Of: Series: Color Photographs of Signal Corps Activity, compiled 1944 - 1981" after which you should click on "Includes:	37 items described in ARC Search within this Series". Hopefully that helps, — Berean Hunter (talk) 23:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wax figure 

message: Perhaps we should change the name to "SKS-45" as this is the Soviet designation. Agree? SKS without the 45 was probably made up by civilian shooters because it's so much easier to say "SKS" rather than "SKS-45". 
74.51.57.78 (talk) 06:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Question 

message: In the introductional text to the rifle the design is dated for the year 1943, the infobox says 1944 and a link this page is referring to(SKS rifle history and pictures) states that it was developed 1946. Can someone clearify this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarendas (talk • contribs) 18:17, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial design date 

message: Is there a particular reason why there are no wars listed under | wars = in the infobox? M11rtinb (talk) 15:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflicts/Wars 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on SKS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20050123093955/http://www.surplusrifle.com:80/sks/index.asp to http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/index.asp
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 01:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Type 63 deviates significantly enough from the standard SKS that it might be considered more of an SKS inspired design than a variant of the SKS, regardless of what consensus is reached on this point, a link to the "Type 63 Assault Rifle" page would probably be helpful. The Type 68 is just another name for the Type 63, from what I have read outside this article, and should not appear in the same list, unless a source pertaining to the differences between the Type 63 and 68 is brought forward. (If such information exists, the page "Type 63 Assault Rifle" should be edited to reflect this information.) There is no Chinese small arm called the Type 73 that I am aware of, and the body of the text fails to describe what is meant by the Type 73. The Type 81 is even further removed from the SKS than the Type 63 was, and the page "Type 81 Assault Rifle" should be linked to. The Type 84 is definitely an SKS variant, but does not have a rotating bolt and is semiautomatic only, and should not be grouped with the rotary bolt SKS derivatives. The Type 84S (not listed) does belong with the rotary bolt derivatives, as it is a 5.56 NATO semiautomatic version of the Type 81. 173.67.18.172 (talk) 00:27, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese variants 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :SKS's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Bishop":
From StG 44:  
From Automatic rifle: 
Reference named "Walter":
From Vz. 52 rifle: Walter, John: Rifles of the World (3rd ed.), page 229. Krause Publications, 2006.
From Beech: Walter J. (2006) Rifles of the World, 3rd edition. Krause Publicatioins, Wisconsin US
Reference named "Jowett":
From M1 carbine: 
From MAS-36 rifle: 
Reference named "Smith":
From Nagant M1895: 
From Azerbaijan: 
From Chiang Kai-shek rifle: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:SKS]] 

message: "Rifles of the AK family (including both the Chinese army’s Type 56 auto and the Vietnamese army’s AK-47s and AKM) are for structural reasons relatively inaccurate." What source is this assertion based on and what are the supposed structural reasons? There is nothing in the AK's structure that would make it inherently inaccurate. Particularly the original AKs with milled receiver are very sturdy, as are the barrel, gas piston/bolt carrier and bolt of all models if compared to, say, AR-15/M-16 derivatives. The AK family includes weapons like the Finnish Rk 62 and the Israeli Galil series, and it is difficult to imagine either of these countries adopting a design that is inherently inaccurate. I could see shoddy 3rd World production with poor quality control turning out inaccurate examples, but this has nothing to do with the structure itself, nor can it be extended to the whole "family".--Death Bredon (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  AK's are inaccurate? 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :SKS's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "TG":
From Thompson submachine gun: 
From Venezuela: 
Reference named "Gazette":
From Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula: 
From Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting: 
From Nagant M1895: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:SKS]] 

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
* 
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Need to quit describing rifles of any caliber as assault weapons.  It's a total lie and it needs to stop 2600:1008:B010:AB39:E91B:4CF3:FDB6:5640 (talk) 00:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ak and sks you need to quit describing them as assault weapons