Talk:Fried dough

message: It's been there since last September and I see no evidence of much support for the merge here.
I've now wordsmithed the opening paragraph to make it clear that "fried dough," by that name, is a specific name for a specific kind of food. It is prepared by taking a specific kind of dough and frying it in a specific kind of way, but many other foods are made by frying dough, and not all of them are "fried dough." 
Not every muffin made in England is an "English muffin", not every venerable mixed drink is an "Old Fashioned", not every soda fountain drink made with milk in a shaker is a "milkshake".
As far as I know "fried dough," "frying saucers," "elephant ears," "beaver tails," etc. are, in fact all the same thing and are properly treated together.
It would, IMHO, be wrong to lump foods such as beignets, doughnuts, crullers with fried dough. They are made by frying dough, as are pancakes, fritters, etc. but they are not very similar. For example, I've never seen fried dough prepared with a filling inside.
I guess what I'm saying is, there is no more justification for merging beignet with fried dough than there is for merging fritter with funnel cake. Dpbsmith (talk) 12:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing the mergefrom tag

message: It's been claimed that Canadians call fried dough "beaver tails" because of the product of the BeaverTails company of Ottawa:  On the other hand, I've seen a website/book excerpt claiming that several competitors claim to have invented the name, and that it has precedent going back to the late 19th century (baked, not fried, though): . My inclination is to cut the attribution out of this article entirely, and just include "beaver tails" as one of the possible names for fried dough. Anyone else have an opinion? FreplySpang 14:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of "beaver tail" name

message: Why does an entry for "elephant ears" take one directly to this (fried dough) page instead of to a disambiguation page? There is such a page, for the singular "elephant ear," and it seems silly that the plural wouldn't direct to a similar list. I was interested in the variety of caladium known as "elephant ear," and was quite surprised to find what we around here call "funnel cakes" instead.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.36.173.170 (talk) 19:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it redirect here at all?  This is a common plant name.  I'm moving the original redirect to the plant disambiguation page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.96.15.181 (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

text: to me, an elephant ear is a type of pastry that is not at all like a fried dough funnel cake or donut.  It should not be merged here, but instead be part of the palmier page (which already give "elephant ear" as another name for a palmier).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.227.0 (talk) 14:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Elephant ears redirect?

message: PA DAMON INVENTED THE ELEPHANT EARS, IN THE 1940'S FROM LEFT OVER PASTREY DOUGH. ADRIAN COLLEGE KIDS CAME UP WITH THE NAME.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.232.219 (talk) 20:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'm moving this here
:First founder of the dough mixed desert was Jared Cielinski.
because there's no reference, and because a Google search on "Jared Cielinsky" fried dough turns up nothing but this Wikipedia article and its mirrors. It should not be reinserted without a reference. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Founder?

message: There's a traditional dessert in Galicia called orella (literally, ear) also prepared during carnival and which looks very similar to this one. I guess they have a common origin but I haven't got a clue. Does anyone have information about this? --SugarKane (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Relation to the Galician ''orella''?

message: Having had both multiple times, OR though it may be, I can confirm that elephant ears and fried dough are not the same, other than in the fact that they are both dough that is fried. But an elephant ear is thin, mostly flat, usually wrinkled (thus the name), and somewhat larger in circumference than fried dough. Whereas the treat known commonly as "Fried Dough" is lumpy, often bubbly, usually with oil or butter still pooled in the center. - 174.127.135.60 (talk) 22:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You've never had the elephant ears I make, then.  The process of making elephant ears is one of using yeast dough, allowing it to rise, stretching it, and then deep-frying it.  Therefore, by definition, it is a fried dough, albeit one with a different texture than what you've experienced by that same name. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  11:49, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elephant ears should be in "similar" 

message: I've removed funnel cake from the list of alternative names for fry bread.  The reason is because, according to the article on funnel cake (and personal knowledge, but I'm relying on the other article to make this point), funnel cake is made by pouring batter into hot oil; while fry bread is made by putting raised yeast dough into a deep fryer or frying it in oil in a pan.  Funnel cake does look similar to fry bread, but the process is different, thus the removal. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  11:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal. It may be useful to put it in the see also section, since it's another food commonly seen at fairs and festivals, but it's a different item. —C.Fred (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal, but it's still listed.  Funnel cake and Fry Bread are two very different things.  funnel cake is a sweet batter poured into oil, while fry bread is a non-sweet dough that is deep fried.  Fry bread is used for things like Navajo Tacos, and sometimes served topped with powdered sugar or other sweets, but isn't itself sweet.  If you don't want to remove funnel cake from the listing, the phrase "These foods are virtually identical to each other" should be removed.—Anonymous  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.224.229 (talk) 04:04, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed [[funnel cake]] from alternative name list 

message: Fried dough is not exclusively "North American." The introductory sentence is American-centric, in my opinion. Either that, or my Eastern European family which makes the stuff stole it from Americans?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.26.47 (talk) 00:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Fried dough is "North American"?

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