Talk:Football/Archive 9

message: :Within the article of medieval football, the first description of football in England is mentioned. Could it not be useful to make a link to Wlliam Fitzstephen? I also believe that in his last name, the s is not capitalized. This is according to the brief article on him, and Wikipedia could look more proffessional if the name given in an article is the same throughout all of Wikipedia.Tigereye 53 13:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible link 

message: I saw the edits changing Australian to Victorian and have warned the user about that. At this point I am going to Wikipedia:Assume good faith and take it no further unless they persist in the change. I would ask that nobody start putting sockpuppet notices on their talk/user page. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edit

message: I notice that this style of football is not mentioned in the history section on football: (from Football in Scotland)
There was a distinct clash of styles in 1872 when Scotland drew 0-0 with England in the world's first football international. England played a 1-1-8 formation, in which whoever had the ball would dribble at the opponents and kick it up field before he was tackled. One of the seven forwards, following behind, would then chase the ball.
Scotland played with a 2-2-6 system, with three banks of forwards divided into pairs. Each pair of players - in defence, midfield and attack - knew who their partner was and their job was to pass to them when possible. This revolutionary tactic of 'passing and running' was known as the combination game
The rules of football in England were decided in the public schools where individualism was an important factor. In Scotland, it was a societal thing. There was no class bias in football and everyone grew up playing the game in the streets. Queen's Park were made up of 13 young men from between Aberdeen and Inverness who came to Glasgow to get white-collar work in banks and commerce. They formalised the team in July 1867, a time when Clydeside was producing one quarter of the world's ships and railways.
After the game, English players returned home to tell of Scotland's combination game. Soon hundreds of Scots - known as 'Scotch Professors' - were playing in England. Preston North End fielded eight Scots in one team while Liverpool were founded in 1892 with eleven Scots.
I'd like to add this somewhere as it seems like it was a fairly important development in the sport. Does anyone have any suggestions where it should go in the article? I would also like to see some references which are sorly missing. -- OoberMick 12:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about the history of football in a general sense.  I think what you have is best suited to the history of Association Football.  There may even be a narrower history than that floating around, where you would have a lot more opportunity to drill down to the area you wish to cover.   ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 13:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.  
The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 12:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish passing and running/combination game 

message: I was wondering if there had ever been any previous problems with inter-wikis, as Football on the English wiki is a page which focuses on a number of varieties, whereas a lot of other wikis would just have Football as purely soccer article, so has there ever been a mix-up between where the interwikis should goto? I'm just asking because I believe there is a problem like this at rugby football...in a lot of places around the world, rugby means rugby union. This is a problem because there are currently only 8 other wikis at rugby union, but well over 20 at rugby football. This cannot be right, as the Rugby (union) World Cup has double the amount rugby union has. I have checked a few out, and some of them are actually about rugby union not rugby football, but some do mention rugby league and rugby sevens at the bottom or something...so to get to the point, has there ever been any similar problems...and yeah. I may not have been totally clear as to what Iam saying, but I have posted this in other places, and no one really said anything, so if anyone knows how to deal with this kind of thing, any comments would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. Cvene64 15:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think English is about the only language where 'football' is an ambiguous term. In pretty much every other language 'football' (or similar) means soccer and only soccer. Hence it is unlikely that any similar article exists in another language.GordyB 15:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a problem such as Cvene64 describes, but I sorted through the interwikis. The ones left now are articles about football in general although the German article seems to specifically be about the meaning of the English word, which seems to be used in German for the American/Canadian/Gaelic/Australian varieties, but doesn't really mention soccer. JPD (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah ok. Thanks for the replies. What do people think of the rugby situation? As, this page appears to be fine, so what should be done over at the rugby pages? Any ideas..? Cheers. Cvene64 16:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would try to remove all the links to articles that are only about union, and put them in the union article, but it is perhaps a bit harder to sort them out in this case, with a few grey areas. I don't see any problem with an interwiki link appearing in both rugby football and rugby union if the target mentions more than one type of rugby, but doesn't have separate pages for them. JPD (talk) 16:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Football inter-wiki