Talk:Kʼómoks

message: What should I do about the various Comox electoral districts?  fed/prov older ridings simply named Comox, there's Comox-Alberni, Comox-Atlin and Comox-something else too.  Normally I would venture to rewrit this as a disambig page, with the first nations language just a link; should I maybe instead (rather than relink everything sent here) the line about Comox, BC (town) and make that a link to a new disambig page.  Or could maybe what's on this page be put on a Komox page (with an accent on one of those o's I believe?)
Please see my revisions to Lillooet, which had originally directed only to the St'at'imc people/language and get back to me.  I'll move on to other ridings in the meantime.Skookum1 05:22, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambig? 

message: This page is on the Komox Tribe, not the town of Comox. Although much of the history of the tribe interwinds with Comox, the Komox nation had a very different lifestyle. Please edit in ONLY what is relevant to the tribe. Oh, and could someone PLEASE change the article name to "Komox People"? Mayalou6999 (talk) 01:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's clearly not the Comox, British Columbia town article, or the Comox Valley article; the current name was made because there are no sources for the "authentic indigenous spelling" I've seen K'omoks with accent-marks too, so once we take the step away from the most common usage IN ENGLISH (not in the Komox language, please note), then decisions have to be made about which spelling system for Komox words.  Can you point to an online source/website somewhere that uses the "Komox people" constructino; HB myself I prefer to see a native-style spelling on the ethnographic articles vs Comox First Nation which would be the band government article, if there is a Comox First Nation band government that is (there is, right?), and note that on the one hand there's Skwxwu7mesh and Secwepemc and Nlaka'pamux there's Squamish language, Shuswap language and Thompson language; part of the reason for that is what's in most common use among linguists/language studies.  I gather you may be Komox yourself - is the "Komox" spelling somewhat standard across the Homalco, Sliammon and Klahoose, i.e. do all three gropus use it?  Because "Comox people" is not just for the Comox on the Island; although there may well be a case for separate Sliammon people (or Tl'a'min?) and Klahoose people (?) articles....just please remember the existing article(s) were not intentionally written to slight indigenous peoples' sensitivities; and also please remember that ideally only citable information can be dealt with, although there's a fair bit of slack re WP:AUTO and WP:COI on First Nations/Native American articles because some of the only sources are of course those the article is about (see those links and you'll understand what I mean by that).  Iv'e been wanting to see an expansion of this article for some time but have been unequipped to do it, i.e. I don't know the material and don't have the resources.  Your input is more than welcome.....what gave you the idea there was any confusion between this and the town article?  The spelling?    I.e. the use of the C instead of the K?  Wikipedia tries to be sensitive to native culture and language; but overall in WP:NAME the overarching consideration is "most common usage", although "authenticity" ALSO is an issue.  I hsould also point out that if the article is to bertitled with the native spelling, matching Skwxwu7mesh and Sto:lo, the "people" part isn't included; it's included when an English form of a name is used for hte article, as in the case of Okanagan people where the core indigenous name is Siylx.  Not meaning to whack you over the head with all this, I'm known for my long posts; all written in trying to be as thorough as possible, no lecutring intended, just explaining how wikipedia works.  If you want to see a good article for your people, stick around and help create it; being open to other points of view is a big part of it see WP:AGF.  Also there's a standard format to opening paragraphs giving all possible variations in name and spelling; a "formula" that's in WP:MOS and other places in the wiki-guidebook.Skookum1 (talk) 04:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I was going to add quite an impressive BC Archives photo showing the old graveyard posts and gate at the Comox Reserve, but was wary of adding something funereal; I'll come back later with the link to the image which if you feel is suitable it can be added to the article; it gives a good idea of the Comox art-style (I think).  And if you want ot see some well-made ethno articles, see Kwakwaka'wakw and Skwxwu7mesh and maybe Duwamish (tribe) or Twana....i.e. as models for article structure/content....Skookum1 (talk) 04:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW articles exist for Klahoose First Nation and Sliammon First Nation already exist; if the use of "Mainland Comox" is a "mistake' for them, maybe made the same way Kwagyul has become mistakenly standard for the Kwakwaka'wakw please say so; ethnographically i.e. in academic literature, they're Mainland Comox; I'm not saying this is right, just partly explaining why I had to rewrite this article's intro a bit....NB Komox people can be parallel to Sliammon people and Klahoose people, which would be subarticles of this article; their "First Nation" titled article should ultimately be about th band government/administration and legal history etc; distinct from ethnographic cultureal material on the "people" pages.  I hope you see what I mean, it's to help organize materials and avoid ambiguities; the Comox language has yet to be written; if you can provide mateirals please do so....and I'm well aware I'm blundering in the dark here; not trying to override, trying to explain article style/structure/separations........Skookum1 (talk) 04:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: PLEASE REMEMBER

message: Comox (language) and Comox language both redirect here, and shouldn't; there should be a separate langauge page. here is one resource and here's another more minor one and this is just a google search for "Comox language".Skookum1 (talk) 14:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comox language split

message: As "Comox/Komox" is not the indigenous name for this people, or their language, I see no reason to depart from the most common English form, which is Comox.  "K'omoks" and "Komox" "K'omoks", with or without accent marks, is a Kwak'wala word - /q'ómoxws/ - so rendering the name in that language would be like titling the Nooksack (tribe) article with the Halkomelem name for the Nooksack, instead of their own.  This is an English encyclopedia, not a Kwak'wala one....Skookum1 (talk) 14:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comox vs. Komox

message: The recent moves of this article need to cease. If a move is desired it should be done thought WP:RM as it would not be uncontroversial. I take this to mean it should be located at K’omoks until a requested move chooses otherwise.--Labattblueboy (talk) 06:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Even though I'm the one who moved it from the geographical complications of "Comox", this usage may only be for the Island Comox and not including the Tla'Amin (Sliammon) or other mainland groups. These people are also listed at Salishan languages as being Salishan-language-speakers but the Island group now speaks Li'kwala ("Southern Kwakiutl"); the name itself is from that language, but in the 20th Century survivors of the epidemics grew close to the Laich-kwil-tach groups at Campbell River, a few miles farther north, and adopted their language; whether the Island Comox language is even still around seems unlikely; but that particular group of Comox-speakers have now restyled their name and are addressed and written about that way by governments...and scholars/academics.... since such names became current in BC English.  Note that I didn't move it to the diacriticalized form,  but only to a "stripped' romanization as also with St'at'imc and Sto:lo.Skookum1 (talk) 07:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And note this closure and my comments below it, and the PRIMARYTOPIC disputes by In ict oculi and Vegaswikian, who both claimed (without really knowing much at all about the place or the people) that the primarytopic is unclear; not in BC it's not, as Skeezix, another Canadian, supported the town as the primary usage.  And because the native names now commonly in use are all a result of trying to avoid confusion with the towns/regions named for them (directly or indirectly, the latter in the case of the Chilcotin Country which takes its name from the river, which was named for the people), that's why I moved this, also in no small part because the people themselves do not use it. Searches of BC and Cdn government sites I know will demonstrate the adoption of K'omoks into modern English.Skookum1 (talk) 07:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles moves 

message: The K'omoks culture resource at this webpage. --Kmoksy (talk) 22:20, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  culture 

message: Substituted at 20:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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