Talk:Francesco Totti

message: *"when he received his second yellow card for un-existent penalty area diving"
*"Unhappily, in the 2001/02 campaign Roma finished runners-up to Juventus"
un-existent? who are you to say? penalty is...when referee blow the whistle. isn't it? a little lack of NPOV I think.
Unhappily for who? for him? for you? I don't think it's so important if it's been happily or unhappily...maybe specify for who.
--necronudist 16:48, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of [[NPOV]] ? 

message: I added some information about his chaildhood, personal life and additioanl information. As well as some deep information about his last season.
If i had some wrong words in spielling, please correct it for me.
:It's okay, I've corrected some mistakes and you added a lot of useful info.Burning phoneix 10:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry 

message: any reason this doesn't touch on his various bans for serious foul play? i.e. stomping on chests after being tackled? FordTuffinIt 14:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would guess that it has to do with the lack of articles in English that could be used as a refrence.  I've looked around but haven't found much. Perhaps someone who could read Italian could find something.....Highly Calculated 05:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disciplinary actions 

message: Serious POV/style issues - as it is, the article reads more like fanboy writing than an encyclopedia entry. It would behoove editors who wrote this article to read: WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:PEACOCK. I don't want to be uncivil, but this article is a joke.
Totti is a creative attacker or midfielder that shows perfect vision and not only is he a fantastic athlete but he is renowned for his superb technique and knowledge of the game. - seriously?
So where do we start salvaging this article? Ytny 12:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If somebody can define, as you did, Takayuki Morimoto a young Ronaldo, then everything is possible!!! Totti is generally considered one of the best players in the world. If you don't agree, this doesn't allow you to put labels of infamity on this page. Are you an administrator or what? By the way Jimmy Wales is safe and sound... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.52.97.206 (talk • contribs) 
Apples and oranges. I didn't compare Morimoto to Ronaldo; I quoted an independent and respected observer who did (and he said, as I noted, that Morimoto's size and speed made him comparable to Ronaldo, not the quality or results). Big difference. So yeah, my criticism of this article still stands. 
If he is "generally considered one of the best players in the world" (which I agrew with - when did i ever say I didn't?), then how hard would it be to find a neutral, reputable observer say so? Or find some objective criteria that makes the point? Ytny 06:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jimmy Wales]] would be spinning in his grave if he read this article 

message: Why was the Image changed? We had a recent one with him winning the Worldcup, this new pic isnt recent at all and I dont want to ever accidently look at a males crotch while there legs are open. So new image or no? Can we have a pic of him actually on the pitch? I wanted to ask before I changed it.
:Because this image is copyright-verifiable and the last one was deleted because it infringed on copyright. If you're going to change the image then make sure either you took the photo or you have permission from someone who did or else it will be quickly deleted due to the high traffic that goes across this page. -KingPenguin 13:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At least find one that has him with short-hair, he's been gone with the long hair for a while now and it isn't an accurate representation of the current-day him. -Xatticus 0:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image? 

message: Providing two references (both featuring interviews with the same person, no less) doesn't negate the point-of-view. It's still point-of-view whether the words come from Pelé's mouth or someone else's. - Dudesleeper ·  Talk 13:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for "regarded as one of the best players" statement 

message: Dear Ellipsis, i can't understand why you undid the edit about AS Roma's eleven consecutive matches record. AC Milan didn't win 11 timely consecutive matches: despite of precompiled timeline, one of the match was played some months later, because of World Championship for football teams. That's why nobody in Italy thinks about Milan as previous record owner: every books of records talks about 10 consecutive matches (referring to three teams, Bologna, Juventus and who knows...). I think that the right policy about this is joining to Italian point of view. In the same way, in 2006-2007 Inter beated Roma's record, growing up to 17 consecutive matches: if you look at precompiled timeline, you can note that these 17 matches are broken by Inter-Roma match. Actually, that match was played some time later then 17th match. In Italy, everyone refers to Inter as the team who won 17 consecutive match. Please, re-edit the page in accurate way.
:Apart from the fact that we are talking about an alleged record which lasted only a few months before being broken by Inter, Milan's series of victories in 1989-1990 is as follows, so I do not see where you are coming from. Here we have eleven victories in a row, which Roma matched and did not beat two seasons ago.
:17a GIORNATA 30 dic 1989                MARCATORI
:Bari - Milan                    0-1     Van Basten
:18a GIORNATA 07 gen 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Cesena                  3-0     Donadoni, Tassotti, Van Basten rig.
:19a GIORNATA 14 gen 1990                MARCATORI
:Lazio - Milan                   1-3     Amarildo (LA), Massaro, Fuser, Colombo (MI)
:20a GIORNATA 17 gen 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Atalanta                3-1     Caniggia (AT), Van Basten 3 (MI)
:21a GIORNATA 21 gen 1990                MARCATORI
:Udinese - Milan                 0-2     Van Basten 2
:22a GIORNATA 28 gen 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Genoa                   1-0     Massaro
:23a GIORNATA 04 feb 1990                MARCATORI
:Fiorentina - Milan              2-3     Baggio rig., Kubik (FI), Massaro, Van Basten 2 rig. (MI)
:24a GIORNATA 11 feb 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Napoli                  3-0     Massaro, Maldini, Van Basten
:25a GIORNATA 18 feb 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Cremonese               2-1     Massaro, Van Basten (MI)
:26a GIORNATA 25 feb 1990                MARCATORI
:Roma - Milan                    0-4     Tempestilli aut., Van Basten 2, Massaro
:27a GIORNATA 04 mar 1990                MARCATORI
:Milan - Ascoli                  2-1     Stroppa, Tassotti (MI)
:Ellipsis4677 09:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ellipsis incorrect undid 

message: I have this page on my watchlist. Mind if I ask why does that personal achievment keep being removed? Udonknome (talk) 17:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It has no place being listed in his "Honours" section: it's no bigger an accolade than being man-of-the-match in a Serie A game (larger stage, yes, but the accolade remains the same). It should only be mentioned in the prose (which it is), as is the case with other player articles. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 19:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense. Thanks. Udonknome (talk) 19:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Man of the Match in the final - Euro 2000 

message: His biggest fan of all time...Dayne R. Shackle!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.73.236 (talk) 03:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Base 

message: is he a natural trequartista or attacking midfielder ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.162.3.156 (talk) 05:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  trequartista or attacking midfielder ? 

message: How can we consider which award is a magazine-voted award or a media-voted award, suitable for footballer in wikipedia article?
Why Guerin d'Oro should remove from player's honour? I think Guerin d'Oro should include in honour because they collect real ratings from 4 medias every match, every week and calculate to a complete season to find the best player. Only present by Guerin. It's not a single magazine-voted award or give the fans, subscriber or internet users vote (ex: World Soccer magazine from UK).
Why Ballon d'Or from France Football magazine should include despite It's really a madia-voted award. Because Ballon d'Or only the most prestigious? Maybe, If we change the rules in note from "no magazine-voted" to "no single magazine-voted", it would be better? I think if award come from multi-magazine decision, it should include. What do you think about this?
Tontotti (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  About magazine-voted awards 

message: The introduction to this article reads like a fan page and contains several errors:
*1. Peacock language such as "universally considered as one of the greatest players of his generation and in the annals of European football". No matter how references we put, that is still not true nor encyclopedic.
: I think the words is too long, with just "regarded as one of the greatest players of his generation" is okay. Nothing more or less than references. Tontotti (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone have a good or reliable reference sites, just edit it with encyclopedic, but in my opinion, still think his real controversial is just 2 incidents, not relevant than his 2 decades football achivement. Just my opinion. Tontotti (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I absolutely do not agree, how can two small isolated incidents be as relevant as his football skills? Ask yourself, for what is he famous for? Why does he have an article here in Wikipedia? The TriZ (talk) 08:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: With all due respect, your language display your lack of objectivity, calling it two "small isolated" incidents. Both have made major headlines. I realise that as a fan of Totti, you want the article about him to be as positive as possible but Wikipedia is about presenting a neutral and balanced view.Jeppiz (talk) 10:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

text: I have added more references, improved the previous links and seperated it for more clearer. Please carefully read, you could found support sentences "greatest or finest player in his generation". To be honest, I'm still think this is not a fan page, with words such as "infamy" or "infamous" in this article, no fan page have the words like these. In my opinion, I think the words "one of the most controversial players in Europe" is too harsh to put in his introduction because his really bad behavior (2 incidents) not equal his achievement both club and individual. Tontotti (talk) 20:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: POV introduction

message: Do we really need three almost identical images of Totti's back in a row? 46.9.48.25 (talk) 12:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many images 

message: Are the numbers true?
I juz found him scored 6 goals only, why would the scoring numbers be 11?
if so, he should be named as the top scorers' list that year!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Em 88 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  09-10 season scoring record? 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

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message: Interesting info about Totti's career assist numbers published:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC9tlZOmWXo&lc=z22gj1fg1paxzzkt1acdp43ahb5exhmerdavhsr2lw5w03c010c
https://www.chiesaditotti.com/2019/9/21/20876923/every-assist-totti-ever-made-with-roma
I am considering adding some of this to the article
Pedantic Bonsay (talk) 20:39, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assists