Talk:Émile Lahoud

message: I wonder if the following could be re-written, alternatively deleted: 'Hariri considered Lahoud to be a lightweight and a Syrian pawn who was undermining Lebanese institutions by backing the encroachment of secret police agencies that mirrored the ones running Syria: the role of the intelligence was no longer to keep up security, but to plant agents, generalize wiretapping, distribute newspaper articles, threaten judges, bind ministers and besiege members of Parliament.Lahoud and about 18 pro-Syrian ministers voted against any project Hariri proposed, from small items like buying land for new schools to economic reforms. At a 2002 meeting of international donors in Paris, the French president Chirac and Hariri managed to secure more than $4 billion in aid to Lebanon, which was heavily in debt, in exchange for economic reforms. Lahoud effectively blocked all the reforms.' What Rafik Hariri thought about Lahoud (to the extent this can be attributed to reputable sources) might not be that relevant. The remainder of the paragraph is highly controversial. To suggest that Lahoud and other 'pro-Syrian' ministers voted against 'any project Hariri proposed' seems like a statement if anything. I believe the allegation that 'Lahoud blocked all the reforms' need to be proved. Meanwhile, Hariri was one of the driving forces behind the Taif  agreement, seems absurd to talk of the 'pro-Syrian' regime in West Beirut in this context as there was a broad consensus Syria would provide security. I will change this now. Tiller1 16:49, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias? =

message: This page is quite biassed in its tone, and also completely unsourced. The allegations of Lahoud's behaviour with regard to Hariri and the Syrians are not presented in a neutral way and the repetition of malicious gossip is not very neutral either. Palmiro | Talk 15:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias problems 

message: I found a lot of plagiarism of material from the NYT,  which I've removed. If anyone wants to restore it, it has to be written up properly and attributed, or else quoted, but bear in mind that if you do that, you'll need to look for balancing material, because the article is so short that the NYT material and POV will overwhelm it. SlimVirgin (talk) 16:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the problem is that this individual is widely known for his unpopularity and lack of a popular mandate in Lebanon, and much of what has been written about him reflects that. to some extent, he is notable for his unpopularity. moreover, this is not outright bias because it consistently references the opinions of 3d parties (in line with wikipedia policies). let's get this clear, I have no stake in disparaging this guy, he just happens to be a widely disdained leader. although i agree that we need to source all of this, my experiences travelling in and reading about lebanon convince me that this article is very much in line with common knowledge about him. Interestingstuffadder 17:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the only source is the NYT, then we've effectively handed the page to their reporter. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm...the NYT reporter is not stating an opinion. He is discussing incidents that occured and information that he has gathered. Are you accuising the NYT reporter of fabricating information? I have never, anywhere else on wikipedia, seen an article in a major newspaper struck down as an unreliable source for an assertion. Or are you implying that we need more than one source for this?  Where else on wikipedia or in wikipedia policy is it required that more than one reliable source be provided for an assertion? Interestingstuffadder 18:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: Hello, all. It really doesn't make sense to restore material that is unsourced. The rule (often broken) in WikiP is to rely upon sources. I'm assuming everybody knows that, but I could be wrong in this particular case. I am again removing the unsourced sentences — well, because they lack sources! (really, I don't care a whit about Émile Lahoud one way or the other). This is the section I am referring to —
A Maronite military officer was needed to assume the position of army commander for the West Beirut-based Lebanese government endorsed by the 1989 Taif Agreement. Lahoud was offered the position. According to one source, Lahoud had connections to an influential Syrian army officer, Ali Hammoud, who recommended him for the job.  
Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 13:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political life 

message: This is just a cheapshot. Wikipedia is clearly being overrun by appologists for US government policy.
:Meets wikipedia standards for inclusion -- notable, in that it got a lot of attention in the aftermath of Hariri's death and is frequent fodder for Lahoud's critics within and outside of Lebanon. Verifiable in that it references one of the world's top newspapers. thus, the "personal life" section should remain. Interestingstuffadder 16:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Might be worth including in a "Criticisms" section, but certainly not in a "Personal life" section. My God, this article is biased. ← ANAS Talk? 12:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life Style 

message: Should the article be filled with honors? I think it should be deleted, instead his relations with Syrian government and the role of this in political assassinations in Lebanon should be given. Because there is hardly reference to it. Egeymi (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  honours 

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