Talk:Greaser (subculture)

message: If you're going to remove the word white in front of the word ethnic, then logic follows that/60s USA. I'm not sure what's so controversial about pointing out that fact. Spylab 13:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnic backgrounds

message: What? No mention of the most famous greaser of all - Arthur Fonzarelli!!! 69.122.122.147 (talk) 20:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The Fonz

message: No picture of greasers in stock? Or are they all extinct? - Redmess 21:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture?

message: I have deleted the mannerisms section because it was all uncited opinion (aka original research) and false claims. It included the names of two random non-notable people and some nonsense about them starting a trend of eating honey-roasted peanuts and "beating up sqares". Those two names were inserted into a few Wikipedia articles as some kind of joke.Spylab 13:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mannerisms section

message: Why would I want to drive my Grandma's car? It seems to me a Greaser is more into Hot Rods!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.156.93.42 (talk) 07:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1959 C addy? 

message: I thought greasers got there name because they were always working on their cars and covered in grease. People had been using pomade in their hair long before the 1950's. The street gangs came later!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.156.93.42 (talk) 08:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greaser because of their hair? 

message: Please review this: Greasers are a group of kids with problems working-class youth-based subculture, it still doesn't make sense to me
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MXER (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing Intro 

message: The term "greasers" prior to 1969 referred to Italians and was derogatory. It was not used in this articles sense until 1969, and only then it was an "invented history". The invention was so popular throughout the 70s and 80s that it has now entered popular culture as if it actually existed. It did not. See this article for more info:
*"Sha Na Na and the Invention of the Fifties", Columbia University
This whole article needs to be rewritten, I wouldn't know where to begin. 71.191.40.106 (talk) 05:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article serious problems 

message: I actually came here after reading a Metafilter article a couple days ago discussing the aforementioned Columbia article.  Metafilter might not meet RS, but theres a lot of ideas expressed we can make use of in refocusing the article ( would we give them a tip of the pen then to avoid plagiarism? ), and at any rate they posted a bunch of links that we can use as RS.
Remember the Fifties? For a certain generation, who could forget those golden innocent days as depicted in shows like Happy Days, Grease and the band Sha Na Na. But it turns out that vision of the 50's is mostly fantasy and never existed, largely invented by a group of Columbia U students around 1969. 
http://www.metafilter.com/75374/The-Fifties-an-invention-of-Sha-Na-Na-Scottish-Highlanders-Rondald-Reagan
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/sep_oct08/features1
Also our article could merge in the earlier definitions of "greaser" as a derogatory term for Italian or Mexican youths, depending on which coast you were on.  It's not unreasonable to assume the pop-culture, vaguely ethnic "greaser" of the 1970s was a takeoff on the real-life ethnic "greaser" of the 1950s.
And the 1940s book Street Corner Society documents the use of "greaser" among Italians to refer to more recently arrived/less assimilated Italians.
Yes, in response to someone saying "ethnic" was too general in one of the top posts, "ethnic" is often used in the US to refer to white people of other than Anglo descent, whether Italian, Spanish, or Persian. Squidfryerchef (talk) 04:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More sources 

message: In the American urban northeast (eg. New York, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Baltimore), so-called "greasers" (who were actually better known as "cornerboys") were very much into doo wop music; few cornerboys would've been able to recognize the sound of rockabilly.
Why is there know mention of doo wop music in this article or the use of the name "cornerboy?"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.21.144 (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOO WOP 

message: that army boots were typical greaser foot ware so intend to remove it barring a photo or a reasonable reference or a compelling retort. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 00:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am coming to doubt 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article is an almost completely unsourced WP:OR train wreck. It has been tagged for years without improvement and people just keep adding more unsourced claims. It has been on my watch list for a while and I am getting very close to the point where I am going to just start reverting every single addition of material that lacks an RS citation. Given the dearth of references and the amount of time it has been tagged, I don't think anyone could reasonably object if it were stubbed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:14, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll support a motion for some WP:TNT stubbing. This article needs a total rewrite, and if I were to do it, I would remove all of this Good Faith OR crap. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. I'm on an extended wikibreak right now so I'm not on much. Sorry i did not get back to you sooner. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: I find it hard to countenance the idea that women enjoy being raped. This seems like a bizarre and arguably misogynistic assertion to make. That being said, this could be an incorrect word being used.   - Skynorth/Starfrostmy talk page 18:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the word used by the source. Schazjmd (talk) 18:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perception of greasers committing sexual violence => "Titilation in working-class females"? 

message: Pop culture section should include Bully. 
The 2006 game Bully featured Greasers as one of the game’s cliques. Schazjmd (talk) 18:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Found a source and added it. Schazjmd (talk) 18:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bully