Talk:Flag of Northern Ireland

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I am aware that this topic has been raised in the past regarding the status of the flag, but I feel that the usage of the Ulster Banner on Wikipedia should be addressed. Given that Northern Ireland does not have a flag that represents itself, should we really be using the Ulster Banner to represent Northern Ireland? 
I propose that we remove the flag from the template  or else replace it with the Union Jack, which is legally the only flag that represents Northern Ireland. Articles such as the Commonwealth Games and List of FIFA country codes use the UB to represent NI – but we ought to remember that the encyclopaedia is supposed to be accurate and neutral, and we should not use the flag to mirror sporting tournaments because that would be entirely erroneous and misleading. st170e 17:57, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated at WT:IE, I think this should be moved to WT:IMOS. It's not of direct relevance to the Flag of Northern Ireland article.  Scolaire (talk) 14:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

text: The flag is used by a large number of the Northern Irish population outside of sporting events and is used for other things. I even have a nice photo taken in Dublin airport of an Irish made souvenir that states Northern Ireland and uses the Ulster Banner to represent it. In all places as well. Shucks. Mabuska (talk) 15:37, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

text: Alright, I'll move this to IMOS – I was going through the archives of WT Flag Template and they said it was the wrong venue and to post here instead. st170e 17:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current use of the flag on Wikipedia 

message: There has been a request for a citation of the first sentence for nearly a year, I think.
The lede sentence suggests that the only "official" flag of Northern Ireland is the Union Jack.
Clearly, however, this is rubbish: the Union Jack is the flag of the UK, and cannot therefore be distinguished as the flag of Northern Ireland as well.
While the flag of Northern Ireland is the only flag of Northern Ireland, and the only one that identifies Northern Ireland specifically, that is not my point.
To be clear, my point is simply that the first sentence is completely incorrect.
I intend to change the first paragraph to remove that sentence, and to make mention of the common name for the flag ("flag of Northern Ireland").
Two points:
* The Union Jack is only used by government officials during official visits to Northern Ireland: it is not used to actually represent Northern Ireland. It is used to represent official UK business.
* The flag of Northern Ireland is commonly referred to as "the Northern Irish flag" or "flag of Northern Ireland". It is much more rarely referred to as the "Ulster flag" or the "Ulster banner". Of course, recently with the popularity of the Internet and discussion about the flag, the use of the word "banner" to describe the flag has increased. The banner is the actual banner on the coat of arms, from which the flag came to be. --75.177.79.101 (talk) 08:35, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to refer to prior discussions and find citation support,  Given the controversy over this you also need talk page agreement before making any changes -----Snowded TALK 12:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: In agreement with Snowded. Best you get support here at the talk-page, first. Otherwise, you'll only be making changes that will get reverted. GoodDay (talk) 02:03, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

text: Look at the above section, this item is closed on this page, there is one place to have the discussion,  Further any discussion is not about the opinion of editors but has to be based on sourced material. -----Snowded TALK 06:29, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

text: Not up to me, but I'd argue that Northern Ireland has no flag. GoodDay (talk) 10:37, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation update 

message: The first sentence of this article is completely incorrect. The Union Jack is not the flag of Northern Ireland. It is the flag of the United Kingdom. The Union Jack is also not the flag of England. The flag is only the flag of England insofar as England is a part of the United Kingdom. The same with Northern Ireland. There is no legislation that I'm aware of that suggests that the flag of Northern Ireland is the Union Jack, other than as a part of the United Kingdom. I think Wikipedia has a policy against Original Research? Can we have this fixed? --82.2.5.153 (talk) 02:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not original research, it is what reliable sources say. The first four citations for the article say that. The Northern Ireland Office said that. Wikipedia is based on reliable sources not on logic. You'd have to produce an even better reliable source saying otherwise. Dmcq (talk) 08:41, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Northern Ireland 

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thread_title:  Clarification request regarding the discretionary sanction applying to this article 

message: Since the United Kingdom has left the European Union, I don't believe they fly the flag of Europe anymore. I don't have sources for my assumption, but it seems pretty obvious to me that they wouldn't use it anymore. -- Isidor Welti (talk) 17:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Europe 

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message: Possible POV fork. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs)  07:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Northern Ireland flags issue]] into [[Flag of Northern Ireland]]