Talk:Tacita Dean

message: just removed this from article. interesting but needs cites; the article is about living person and contains person information. unless it has citations personal info cannot be included.:
Artlondon 23:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  that doesn't mean you can just blitz it under huge additions. Artlondon 20:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  considering the new expanded article, it would not be overstating it to maintain the previous controversy section. Artlondon 20:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not upset: There are ways to edit, guidelines and policies. Your editing style isn't the wikipedia way. Unsourced material can't be pasted and just left. Also, all your additions are copy & pasted from another source; so are going to be undo. Signed 'whoever': >>>>>> Artlondon 21:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy  

message: I hold the copyright for the website http://www.stammtischforum.org/synopsis_Dean. The text from that site comes from a talk that I gave and I am happy for it to be used on this Wikipedia site (I will send a message from the Stammtisch email to Wikimedia to this effect). 
Ed Krcma 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: in essence, you are required to "remove" copyright from the text and release it under GNU Free Documentation License. There are useful links from the copyrvio notice. Consider adding a CC etc notice to your website to avoid confusion. Artlondon 21:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  permission has been received -- but please -- this doesn't mean you can simply paste it in wholesale, over, and with no regard to the existing article. Your contributions are welcomed to expand this topic. You need to work with the existing info; it's been a group effort for two years. The article is to establish an overall neutral point of view; simply pasting over the bits you don't like is both lazy and establishes only your own point of you; which is not neutral. It's also not good to have an article written entirely by one person as this isn't neutral. You should also consider other people will edit your text. Expect this; anyone can edit wikipedia. You will not be able to simply undo edits just because they alter your text. Artlondon 00:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I suggest adding a section at a time. Citing each section as you go. You need to cite the original sources; you can't simply cite your own web-page. Artlondon 00:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your advice - I hope that most of my changes have been to add material rather than paste over existing text. I do still feel that to have the 'controversy' as the first main section of the article is misleading. It is very rarely mentioned in any of the literature on the artist and so it doesn't seem entirely neutral to give it such prominence on the Wiki page. What do others think? Ed Krcma 08:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Currently 'controversy' precedes your pasted text. After your pasted text has been wikified and sourced  the article can be reordered. I'm not sure all the pasted text is suitable here. This shouldn't be an essay about Dean. It is fairly obvious it was suggested to you this article may need editing; or you were indeed asked to edit this article - which is ok - and your contribution is welcomed,  you clearly know this subject: but neutraltraility must be maintained. Can you take some time to view similar pages. Your initial objection was that the 'controversy' section may have been too long in regard to the whole article - indeed it may have been, but that is certainly no longer the case. The text in question has reliable verifiable sources, which is what counts, and why, for now, the text should be maintained. Artlondon 10:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright 

message: Please engage in community discussion before removing notices to maintain NPoV. Artlondon 18:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the notice on this page concerning copyright, gives permission for your text to be included in the article. As i've tried to explain already - remove this notice and it doesn't make this permission visible - which will cause problems in the future - like the deletion of your contributions for copyright infringement. The notices on the article are justified until issues resolved. The only edit was concerning the 'controsvtery' section - i moved it down the article. You can continue to edit the article in a way that the issues become resolved. Artlondon 15:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notices 

message: Would anybody object to me removing the copyright notice at the top of this discussion page? I own the copyright to the Stammtisch text mentioned, and I have given the appropriate permissions to Wikipedia. Also, given that there have been several edits to the article since the style and tone notices went up, should we consider removing them as well? The article includes citations and I feel its tone is now more appropriate to the Wikipedia context (although perhaps not all issues of quality have been resolved). What does anyone else think?
Ed Krcma 19:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the notice on this page concerning copyright, gives permission for your text to be included in the article. As i've tried to explain already - remove this notice and it doesn't make this permission visible - which will cause problems in the future - like the deletion of your contributions for copyright infringement. The notices on the article are justified until issues resolved. The only edit was concerning the 'controsvtery' section - i moved it down the article. You can continue to edit the article in a way that the issues become resolved. Artlondon 15:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Notices 

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