Template talk:Orson Scott Card

message: as I understand it these are only his Novels. If  we want to good beyond Novels the template should be renamed to deal with all his "Works". Something like  as many other similar or . :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok I have the tools I'll do the work. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Novels only currently

message: Orson Scott Card is the writer for two prominent comic series, Ultimate Iron Man and its sequel, Ultimate Iron Man Volume 2. Should these be included in the template, since they are his works? I know the template is busy as it is, and I'm not sure if these would go into standalone works or their own category, but I think that they should be included, if possible. UltraExactZZ  Claims ~ Evidence  20:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This template is way too big as it is.  Besides if I include Iron Man I would have to include Card's other comic book series.  And then there is his nonfiction, his writing books, his plays etc.  A line has to be drawn somewhere.Pmcalduff (talk) 01:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comics

message: Achilles de Flandres is a character that never makes an appearance at the Battle School setting in either 'Ender's Game' or 'Ender's Shadow' - the only books that treat the Battle School satellite station as a school. It then logically follows that his location in the specific character roster of those who appear at Battle School is incorrect despite his later relations with the listed characters in 'Shadow of the Hegemon' and 'Shadow of the Giant'.
Underpaidman (talk) 20:37, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Achilles de Flandres appeared in 'Ender's Shadow' when Bean becomes the commander of his own army.  I don't have the book right in front of me right now or I would give you the chapter.  Bean and 5 members of his army trick Achilles into admitting his role in the murder of Sister Carlotta, Poke and the unnamed doctor who fixed his leg.--- ARTEST4ECHO(Talk) 19:44, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Achilles de Flandres in battle school 

message: Some suggestion for the navbox itself, and the use of it:
# Subgroups
#* creating some order/classification for the novels (books) in the section Ender's Game 
#* already mentioned in Template_talk:Ender%27s_Game#Subgroups 
#** where there's already 1 subgroup created by Ollieinc
#** called Related (with only one book in it)
#* (extra) subgroups (for each series): 
#*# The original Ender saga
#*# The parallel Shadow Saga
#*# The prequel Formic Wars
#*# Garbage subgroup (Related/Other/Collections): Essay collection, Short story collection(s), ...
#* see below for an example
# Template:Ender%27s_Game: 
#* having two similar navboxes at the bottom of the same page is redundant (and has no real value)
#* see on pages for Ender%27s_Game_(series) 
#* but (imho) having (and keeping) both navboxes does has value, and in such a way that :
#*# for general (Orson Scott Card related) pages, the general (Orson Scott Card) template can be used (with enderstate=uncollapsed for Ender related pages, see next improvement) 
#*# and for specific (Ender related) pages (like charachters, planets, ...), the specific (Ender) template can be used
# Uncollapse relevant section: 
#* as already mentioned earlier by Flax5, this navbox is composed of several collapsible sections in such a way that it's possible that only the relevant section is visible by default on each transcluded article
#*  and  this set-up doesn't work for some reason:
#** because of the difference uppercase/lowercase?
#** ie. the template stipulates lowercase
#** while uppercase is used (incorrectly) for inclusion within pages
#* maybe there is a rule to not have an uncollapsed navbox (or in this case, a sub-navbox)?
Info on the use of expanded parts (in a composed navbox): (as pointed out by Robsinden)
 *Use  to show the Ender's Game Saga template in its expanded (fully visible) state.
 *Use  to show the Alvin Maker Saga template in its expanded (fully visible) state.
 *Use  to show the other work in their expanded (fully visible) state.
Proposition for the subgroups:
Clockworkske (talk) 11:03, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: Apart from the subgroups for the Ender Series, it might be useful to split the section Other works
* into Other series
* and Other works
Also, within the navbox Other works, there is a section Other works, which doesn't look encyclopedic (professional) to me. Clockworkske (talk) 11:37, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further tidy-up suggestions