Talk:British Antarctic Territory

message: In need some help by anyone who reads this. But it would seem to me that there is a bias between the Argentine Antarctica article and this one. This is a bias I have noted well in other encyclopedias as well. And I know this might be considered by some as 'splitting hairs', but I think it is a valid observation. This article states that:
"...British Antarctic Territory is an overseas territory of the United Kingdom, situated in Antarctica from the South Pole to 60° S latitude between longitudes 20° W and 80° W. The Territory was formed on March 3, 1962, although the UK first claimed this portion of the Antarctic in 1908. Prior to 1962, the Territory was part of the Falkland Islands Dependency. Territorial claims are generally not recognised by those countries not making their own claim..."
In the Argentine article it says:
"...Argentine Antarctica (Spanish: Antártida Argentina) is a sector of Antarctica which Argentina considers part of its National Territory. The Argentine Antarctic region, consisting of the Antarctic Peninsula and a triangular section extending to the South Pole, is delimited by the meridians 25° West and 74° West and the parallel 60° South latitude. Administratively, Argentine Antarctica is a department of the province of Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica, and South Atlantic Islands. The provincial authorities reside in Ushuaia and the Governor annually designates his delegate for the Antarctica region, which thus represents the civil power of the zone. There are overlapping claims on this territory by Chile and the UK, so the "civil power" of any of the administrators extends no further than that nation's own bases..."
This looks like these two segments are massaging a point of view. Massaging is the correct word, because while it is not an overt statement, it certainly can be construed as the following: In the British article, the sentence clearly says "IS AN OVERSEAS TERRITORY... of the United Kingdom"... Now to me, and more so probably to uninformed or casual subject readers, this sounds like a definite affirmative statement of posession and control. The UK has no more of an official control to this region than do Argentina, or Chile.
On the other hand, the Argentine article says "a sector of Antarctica which Argentina CONSIDERS... part of its National Territory". This sound like it questions the validity of the 'claim' of territorial claim in itself (not to confuse this with the 'official validity of posession'), whereas in the UK and Chilean articles the 'claim' itself by the countries is not disputed, but rather the international validity.
I submit that this issue should be adressed. Thank you very much for your time. TheDugout 13:48 19 Sep (2006)
ps- I'm new to this so I do not know how to post my user name and time of posting, as in the comments above.
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:Different writers working at different times, most likely. "is" is probably better than "considers" for both, because they're just basic statements of national legal status. After that you can add how the claims are viewed internationally. Feel free to make the fix! Stan 05:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias in antarctic articles? 

message: What does it mean that the UK "hived off" on its claims?  Nyttend 05:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Hiving"? 

message: There is a clear NPOV discrepance in the opening lines of the articles regarding the british claim and the argentine and chilean claims. I have edited it so that it no longer implies that Britain has actual sovereignty over the territory whereas Chileans and Argentinians only have "claims".
--Burgas00 14:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated above, it's because different editors contribute to them, not anything deliberate.  There is nothing POV about the  opening sentence:
*the British Antarctic Territory is a British overseas territory, in that the British Overseas Territories are fourteen territories that Britain lists as BOTs
*it is situated in Antarctica from the South Pole to 60° S latitude between longitudes 20° W and 80° W."
Those are facts.  The fact that the claim is not recognised by other states, and that it overlaps with those of other states, is covered a few sentences later.  So it is not POV.  Furthermore, if you start changing this opener like you wish to, then every single slice of land with disputed sovereignty must carry the disclaimer "...that X considers part of its territory".  Gibraltar is the pensinsula in the south of Spain that Britain considers part of its territory.  Kosovo is a region of the Balkans that Serbia considers part of its territory.  Tibet is the region of the Himalayas that China considers part of its territory.  etc etc The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 15:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I note that you didn't address the other territories I mentioned, and instead came up with a ridiculous hypothetical argument about killing Frenchmen, which proves nothing.  I'm not going to revert (for now, at least, because I've done so three times), but I would be interested to hear others' views.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 19:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I know all of that, but does it mean you have to have all that stated in the opening sentence because otherwise it's "POV"?  Of course not.  As long as the subject is dealt with, it's not POV.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 21:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: ok. I think this is probably quite easy to deal with. I dont think many people object to it being described as a British Overseas Territory, as it undoubtedly is. We must be careful to note that it is not recognised as "British" by all other countries although it is recognised by some. It shouldnt be too hard to do this to the satisfaction of both points of view. I think the version we have now is fine. It states that it is a part of antarctica claimed by the UK, and that it is a BOT. Lets get down to what the specific problem with statement is if we wish to change it. Comments? Regards to all 195.137.96.79 00:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening line

message: Why does the map appear to show a gap between the UK and Norwegian claims ?   The other article about the claimed territories in Antarctica shows otherwise.Eregli bob (talk) 09:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map discrepancy ?

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