Talk:Icelandic orthography

message: after accented vowels or diphthongs: [tn̥]
all other contexts [nː] -> finna
As the accent of "finna" is on the 1st consonant, as it usually is by icelandic words, "finna" should fall in the 1st, not 2nd case--201.95.63.180 (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They probably meant an acute accent in spelling, not a word stress. 89.64.70.34 (talk) 20:31, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  nn 

message: beginning of word, before e, i, í, y, ý, æ, ei or ey: 
[c⁼] unaspirated voiceless palatal plosive
E.g.: "gulrofa"
That doesn't make sense. The voiceless palatal explosive only appears before front vowels. What is strange, however, is that the pronunciation given by the audio sample is clearly /gylrouva/, the inexistance of voiced /g/ in Icelandic notwithstanding and the /v/ almost vanishing. -- 189.18.91.98 (talk) 15:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  g 

message: In the website http://icelandic.hi.is/ one can hear many examples, where the 'ð' at the end of a word is clearly voiceless pronounced or even not pronounced. -- 189.46.25.67 (talk) 01:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ð 

message: The example for k (as opposed to c) uses the letter k before an i and a y when this is claimed to make k become /c/.  An example should be found where k occurs before a back vowel.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.212.106.138 (talk) 00:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  k 

message: The phoneme-to-grapheme correspondences are repeated in similar tables in both Icelandic orthography and Icelandic phonology. They should only be in one place, and orthography is that place. jnestorius(talk) 23:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 18:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded; these do not seem to provide any synchronic phonological insight, so they just take up space. --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 16:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge sections from phonology to orthography  

message: I have removed the merge tag. It has not been acted on in over a year. Pnonology is the sounds and orthography is the spelling. If this article contains phonology info then the info should be moved to the phonology article. If the phonology article has orthography info in it then that article is at fault and the tag should be on that article and the info moved into this article. Op47 (talk) 21:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge tag 

message: <ng>, <y> and <ý> are missing. Presumably <ng> is /ŋ/ or /ŋg/ as in most other Germanic languages, not /ng/? (Example þing "council".) And <y> is /y/, <ý> is /yː/ ? Hairy Dude (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: <y> and <ý> are the same as  and <í>, to the best of my knowledge.162.247.45.152 (talk) 18:15, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: They are. Mr KEBAB (talk) 19:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  ng, y, ý 

message: This page is missing a lot of information, and has some inaccuracies as well. I am going to attempt to fix it up by adding what's missing and fixing any errors. There is only one source cited for this page, but I have several books on the language that I think will help. 50.53.53.161 (talk) 02:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to Page 

message: What is the difference between ⟨fnd⟩ and ⟨fnt⟩? This article indicates that it's voicing of the [m] sound, but according to Icelandic phonology, "[o]nly in initial position do the voiceless sonorants contrast with the corresponding voiced sonorants." Is this case actually a contrast of /t/ and /tʰ/, despite the fact that both are apparently unaspirated? (suoı̣ʇnqı̣ɹʇuoɔ · ʞlɐʇ) nɯnuı̣ɥԀ 17:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: They're  and . The example illustrating the latter sequence is actually pronounced with , with an epenthetic . Mr KEBAB (talk) 16:54, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

text: Oh, you want to know the correct phonemic analysis. It's probably  and . Mr KEBAB (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding voiceless sonorants 

message: I'm very surprised to find that the description in the article not only ignores but implicitly denies the obligatory phrase-final voiceless pronunciation of fricatives ([v],[ð],[ɣ]), even though the recorded pronunciation examples clearly display it. Árnason (2011) certainly does mention final devoicing of fricatives, and, less consistenly, of sonorants (p.237), as a "pervasive postlexical effect that takes place before a pause", using the example of dag pronounced as [ta:x].--91.148.130.233 (talk) 02:11, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final devoicing, anyone? 

message: The Icelandic phonology article lists /ɲ/ as a phoneme, but there is no mention of it here, could it be added?
--MIGUELbM 15:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I  it as an allophone, like ; I don't see it being mentioned as a phoneme in Icelandic phonology. — Eru·tuon 18:35, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding /ɲ/ 

message: According to the table, it's always different from a single "n". Why, then, is there a separate article "N-rule", starting with "In Icelandic orthography, the n-rules are rules for determining when one letter n or two consecutive n's should be written, a difference that sometimes affects the pronunciation." (emphasis mine)? 176.221.123.116 (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double "n" 

message: Is there a reason for i/y (and also í/ý) being pronounced the same? Is there a historical reason for it? Mats (talk) 08:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: says that  lost their rounding and merged with , but I'm not sure if that's what you mean by a reason. — Eru·tuon 18:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's correct. I think he just wanted to know the origin of this orthographic inconsistency. Mr KEBAB (talk) 17:00, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I and Y 

message: Shouldn't "hn" be listed in the table as well? --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 20:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  hn 

message: Does X start a word in Icelandic? Many people say no, but what about the word xýlófón?Bhinegar (talk) 19:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The standard spelling is sílófónn although there are occasional uses of xýlófónn. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

text: Only a few loan words. I am pretty sure that no etymologically Icelandic word starts with x. Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson (talk) 20:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  x 

message: Spanish and French Wikipedia say the name of Y is "ufsilon y", not "y". Is that what we should have written? Hurlebatte (talk) 19:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, as "y" sounds the same as "i" and "ý" the same as "í". Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson (talk) 23:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  ufsilon y? 

message: Is not the transliteration of eth given as dh rather than d?Redav (talk) 08:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is transliteration  of eth really d? Or dh after all?