Talk:Alexandre Grimaldi-Coste

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thread_title:  [[:fr:Wikipédia:Pages à supprimer/Alexandre Coste]] 

message: I added the lines regarding the child being given Royal staus, the name Grimaldi and addressed as Prince Eric. This is what an interviewer asked Prince Albert. He said it would not happen (as there are many other options), but that the interviewer was correct in what might be done. Since I have the source of the information, including the exact wording, I am curious as to why someone would change it to Prince Alexandre. Alphabeter 23:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Status 

message: "If his parents were to marry"...What about the nature of Nicole Coste's previous marriage? Is it completely over?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.42.62.228 (talk) 22:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Catholic question 

message: The "Name" section of the article says "Albert made no public comment on the lawsuit at that time..." but there is no prior mention of a lawsuit. Someone who has time and access to sources should add this. If this can't be done, then excision may be required. --Haruo (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What lawsuit? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In today's world, we should avoid calling any child, son or daughter, brother or sister "illegitimate" unless the legal context of an inheritance, e.g. of a throne, is clarified. Bascially, no human being is generally "illegitimate", and, especially in Europe, extramarital children have become as much the norm as those born in wedlock. (Divorce statistics also show that those born in wedlock very often do not grow up in that wedlock.) I will now be reinstating more careful wording here in this regard, and I ask that we discuss this before making any change to it again. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: More careful use of "illegitimate"

message: He has never had any and never will. They section heading is wrong. Reverting again. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: "Status" in the line of succession

message: As seen in the article's edit history, more and more attempts are being made to change the subject's name to Grimaldi (without -Coste). No reliable source has been given yet, and the article name must be changed if there is to be a name change at all in text. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Using the People source, it seems straightforward to move this article to Alexandre Grimaldi, leaving Alexandre Grimaldi-Coste as a redirect, and tweaking the lead to . Schazjmd (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree & would do it if I could. Need admin assistance. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:07, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text:  I'm not seeing any compelling reason in the sources currently in the article to keep it at Alexandre Grimaldi-Coste; Paris Match uses that name, but only to say that it was the name on his first passport and that his mother would prefer that he simply used the name Alexandre Grimaldi to match Albert's other children, while the Guardian and NYT don't use the name at all. I'd be inclined to move the article and change the text to follow Schazjmd's suggestion Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 16:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text: , you recently did a revert related to the name; based on the new source cited here, do you have any objections to changing the name of the article? If not, I can request it at WP:RM. Schazjmd (talk) 16:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, albeit superseded by merger proposal. DeCausa (talk) 22:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text: The title of the article should reflect the name that he is notable under. That is, the name that most RS use. For the lead of the article, WP:BLPPRIVACY requires that "Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public". Is this satisfied? Morbidthoughts (talk) 17:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that someone who became notable as a minor (the article was created when he was 2 years old) has selected their name as an adult and is using that name going forward. Schazjmd (talk) 17:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text: I question whether this article should have any name at all. What has this person done? This looks to be a WP:BLP1E, and even that is based on being born as not being an heir to the throne of Monaco, which is an event that many of us have survived without note. He should get a mention in his father's articles and possibly any on succession of the throne, but I'm having trouble seeing the point of this article. (One should always be dubious of articles created about 2 year olds.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:21, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this. There's nothing interesting to say about this individual, they should be mentioned at Albert II, Prince of Monaco, but nothing more. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The only two sentences specifically about him are "he was born" and "he was baptized". The rest is about his mother, his father, and laws of succession. Schazjmd (talk) 17:27, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeated attempts to change name

message: Proposing here to merge/redirect this article into Albert II, Prince of Monaco, per WP:INVALIDBIO . There is nothing interesting to say about this person except in their relationship to Albert II, Prince of Monaco. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:37, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Kids that are a heartbeat or two away from a currently valid throne are usually considered notable for that reason alone. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote to the nominator about being more careful with wording, hoping that advice might be well received on the user's talk page, especially since that user must be aware that the subject of this article keeps an eye on what's going on here. My advice was immediately deleted with the edit summary "I don't feel like dignifying this nonsense with a response". Sad to see such behavior. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

text:   I've closed the discussion and performed the redirection. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: *Support Per nom. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Kids that are a heartbeat or two away from a currently valid throne are usually considered notable for that reason alone. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote to the nominator about being more careful with wording, hoping that advice might be well received on the user's talk page, especially since that user must be aware that the subject of this article keeps an eye on what's going on here. My advice was immediately deleted with the edit summary "I don't feel like dignifying this nonsense with a response". Sad to see such behavior. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

text:   I've closed the discussion and performed the redirection. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Responses