Talk:Dethklok

message: An IP keeps attempting to self-promotee, or joke with friends, about the appearance of Skiwsgaar being based on himself or his friends. He tries to attribute this to the ENinterview, but I've checked carefully ,and searched the article for the text string tristan, and no result has shown what he's doing. I'm requesting page protection. ThuranX (talk) 00:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Regrettably, multiple requests for page protection have been refused. ThuranX (talk) 19:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The IP's that keep adding the bullshit are all registered to Australia On Line, according to WhoIS. If the issues continues, please contact AIN and inquire about either filing a complaint with the user's ISP or blocking a range of IP addresses. WhoIs Data for reference If and when you choose to take the issue to AIN, please leave a message here. Good luck. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   02:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not worth it. Repeated requests ignored. Unless you can give all four templates to an editor, nothing will happen. ThuranX (talk) 04:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandal. 

message: Based on the provided reference and this interview the gig with the School of Rock appears to really be more about Brendon Small.  He happens to be playing some Dethklok music, but it's not quite the same as the tour.  In the interview, he specifically explains that it is not a Dethklok concert.  So the paragraph may not be appropriate for this article.  Could I get someone else's thoughts about this? -Verdatum (talk) 22:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me, move it to his article.ThuranX (talk) 23:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  School of rock gig 

message: Dethklok won an award on the golden god award show i dont remeber what it was called but it should be on wiki.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.153.84.13 (talk) 02:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The epiphone revolver golden gods awards 

message: Without solid citations, this cannot go into the article. It appears to be a campaign of vandalism by a number of Australians, so unless someone can provide sources, we're going to have to work to get the page locked. ThuranX (talk) 19:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again, reverted adding of Tristan Petersen, this time with a fake source (a search of all 4 pages didn't bring up his name). I don't understand the point of continually re-adding him, it'll be reverted almost immediately. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 21:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A certain anon with too much time on his or hands feels the need to repeatedly blank this section. Disruptive edits will be treated as vandalism. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   03:34, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tristan Petersen. 

message: Do the lyrics really belong here? Why did those 3 songs 'make the cut'? I dont think this is the right place, because if you put lyrics for three of their songs then you have to do it for all of their songs, which would make this page bigger than it already is. I have no prob with the lyrics being on wikipedia, but maybe we should put them on a different page and just link to it? 72.12.72.138 (talk) 17:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those lyrics were posted by an IP who clearly didn't understand that he was violating Copyright law. They have been removed, and will not return in full song form, ever. It's a violation of US law and Wikipedia policy.ThuranX (talk) 21:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics

message: I Looked in the Dethalbum II booklet and it said Skwisgaar did the all the keyboard parts, is this just on Dethalbum 2 or is there just a mistake?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.96.151 (talk) 01:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On the " Extended Murderface Bass Solo", Toki plays a synthpop riff on a keyboard to back the bass, I guess that's where it stems from --A Chain of Flowers (talk) 15:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toki on Keyboard 

message: in the very beginning sequence to "RenovationKlok", who is that guy that seems to be in Toki's place during the flashback? 71.223.229.17 (talk) 19:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that no one's tried to add a sixth member, they must not have said. ThuranX (talk) 03:37, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He appears to be an old rhythm guitarist, but since no actual info has been given for him on the show, we can't add much about him here. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 22:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume he'll be identified at some point. At this point he has yet to be discussed at all other than being shown in the flashback at the beginning of season 3. Be patient.--Freshfighter9 (talk) 23:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this episode page you can see that the character's name on the record contract is likely "Magnus Hamerthan".  I think this should at least be mentioned on the page. Nijyo (talk) 03:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is driving me insane 

message: Why are Snakes 'N Barrels considered "trivia" and not worthy of mention in the Pickles section? Snakes 'N Barrels was/is a huge part of the character. Does anyone else feel that there should be some mention of this band?--Freshfighter9 (talk) 21:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Has there been any critical coverage of it, or is it only interesting as trivia about the character 'in-universe'? I've seen no discussion of it by reliable sources, nor any indication that it's more important than a cheap joke about 80s hair metal, useful fodder for part of one episode. ThuranX (talk) 22:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in two episodes, there's a cover of a Snakes'n'Barrels song on the first Dethalbum, and without the reunion of SnB (minus Pickles) in Season 2, Rockso wouldn't have relapsed.  So yes, they are important.  Nijyo (talk) 07:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Of those, only one approaches worth covering - the so-called cover, which isn't a 'cover' at all. FInd some actual critical reporting on it, and then it can be included. But Rockso's relapse? no, unimportant. ThuranX (talk) 12:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Without his recent relapse the dethmas episode or the dethklok christmas special wouldn't of happened. As he is one of the major characters in the episode and addiction causes major problems for the band. Also Snake and barrles were the first to get their own 30 minute episode in season 2, so yes they're important.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.245.191 (talk) 03:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: hey ThuranX I think you're outvoted on this one! sounds like we have consensus. --173.212.76.92 (talk) 01:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think mentioning S'n'B would all come down to the relevance of the material around it - I'd support mentioning S'n'B if you can tie it into Pickles drug problems and character development. His substance abuse problems have been a recurring theme in the series, to the point where when the shows creators gave IGN an interview, they emphasized Pickles' drug ridden past. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   09:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: See, IP hopping vandal editor? This is how you get your material into the article. You find sources supporting inclusion, and you use them. In light of the IGN article, I can support including a mention, not an extended litany, of Pickles' membership in Snakes n Barrels. ThuranX (talk) 07:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ThuranX: Just curious.... who is your "IP hopping vandal editor" comment being directed at? Are you trying to imply that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a vandal? And who died and left you in charge of this article? I really don't care what changes you support because it isn't up to you. --Freshfighter9 (talk) 21:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ThuranX has been correct the entire time: without reliable sources giving notability, information like that should not be in the article. Now that a reliable source has given information on SnB, it should be included. That being said, ThuranX should lay off the personal attacks, IP or no. Freshfighter9, everyone is welcome to edit and keep-up articles, no one has to die, and no one editor is "in charge" of this or any other article. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 22:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "everyone is welcome to edit and keep-up articles, no one has to die, and no one editor is "in charge" of this or any other article." - That was precisely my point. I still want to hear ThuranX explain his "IP hopping vandal editor" comment.--Freshfighter9 (talk) 22:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can't figure it out, you're clearly not paying attention. 173.xxx's first edit is here? That's an IP hopping editor clearly familiar with the page's issues. Look at what the IPs who edit this page do - they interest fannisms and trivia at best, vulgarities and vandalism the rest of the time. Couple that with his combative attitude in that comment, and I stand by my remark. ThuranX (talk) 06:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Freshfighter's concerns appear to me to be valid.  I wouldn't say that this editor is "clearly not paying attention".  ThuranX, your logic appears to be flawed.  Please Assume Good Faith.  The fact that numerous IP editors vandalize the page doesn't in any way reflect on any specific anonymous editor's character.  Vandals don't make comments like the one above; they just vandalize.  It's much more likely that the above anonymous editor has a dynamically assigned IP-address, and either doesn't understand the value of using an account, or simply forgot to login. -Verdatum (talk) 16:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some people don't have accounts because they have lives to attend to.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.245.153 (talk) 03:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, because I took the fifteen seconds it takes to make an account, I don't have a life? and neither does anybody else on this site? Dizzizz (talk) 08:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snakes 'N Barrels 

message: I guess the whole first section of this discussion page is devoted to removing any character detail from this article - not that I have a problem with that. However, I'd understood there were separate articles for each character (they were linked), but now they are redirected to this article, so only one remains. 
This section of the wiki manual shows examples of "good" character pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WAF#List_of_exemplary_articles
Does anyone know how to find the old band member articles, if they existed? ... the pictures of each band member are still on wikipedia but not the articles. Tkech (talk) 11:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The character bios that were previously here were removed by User:Marcus Brute in this edit.  It had no comment or discussion, I disagree with it, and the user is currently blocked as a suspected sockpuppet.  I say restore it. In fact, I believe I will. -Verdatum (talk) 16:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Brute created the individual articles despite oppostion in the #Character Bios discussion. The articles he created only discuss Dethklok within the context of Metalocalypse and contain very little real world and encyclopedic information WP:WAF. They lacked proper reliable sources or critical commentary to establish any notability defined in Wikipedia's notability policy. I assumed he left the mini-bios in this article or at least the List of Metalocalypse characters. Thanks for restoring the bios. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   18:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still need tv character bios 

message: Has there been any other source for the name of the character seen in Renovationklok aside from a nigh-illegible signature?  Unless there is, I think it should be noted that any name attributed to him is speculative.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.70.115.31 (talk) 05:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And now that we know who Magnus Hammersmith is, who the hell is his voice actor?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.79.38 (talk) 17:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would say Marc Moron but thats just a guessDavidravenski (talk) 18:11, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayer Hamilton?  Magnus Hammerstorm? 

message: Alright, there's some debate over whether the genre "brutal death metal" belongs here or not. It has a source, http://www.unratedmagazine.com/bios/_artists.cfm?band_id=1620, which says at one point (quote): "this is a brutal death metal album". I feel this is a reliable source, that (in my opinion) pretty obviously supports the genre "brutal death metal", however others claim that I am misinterpreting the article (which is entirely possible). So this RfC is twofold: is this source reliable (I checked WP:RSN, and couldn't find it listed there, but that doesn't mean it's automatically reliable); and is the quote given supportive of adding the genre?
For the record, I'm not involved in this debate because I believe unequivocally that "brutal death metal" should be kept, but simply that it is information that appears sourced. If I'm wrong (again, totally possible here), then I have no issues with removing it. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe by "brutal death metal album" he meant a death metal album that was brutal. 99.157.199.176 (talk) 18:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I know Metal Archives is not considered a RS by Wikipedia's standards, but it does classify some bands as "Brutal / Technical Death Metal." I have never heard of a Brutal Death metal before, but that does not mean it does not exist. I hope the author of the article gets back to you guys so we can resolve this issue. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   18:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Comment: There is no genre "Brutal Death Metal", as such, in Wikipedia's entry for Death Metal. There's only one mention of the term, in the "Subgenres" section of the article. ("[Melodic death metal] songs are typically based on Iron Maiden-esque guitar harmonies and melodies with typically higher-pitched growls, as opposed to traditional death metal's brutal riffs and much lower death grunts.") Now, it might be obvious to editors who know their metal music that this or that music is "brutal death metal", but, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, the term can only be used if supported in reference to this or that piece (or body) of music by third-party, reliable sources.-The Gnome (talk) 10:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: the author never wrote me back, so I think its clear that the majority feel that "brutal death metal" isn't a real genre. So until theres real evidence, i think the genre should be removed. Davidravenski (talk) 05:25, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, there is real evidence: the source given on the page. Not to mention that an email still wouldn't justify the removal of the content (that's hardly a reliable source). At this point, it might be worth your time to bring this up on WP:RSN and find out if the source used is in fact a reliable source or not. Until then, it's sourced, and shouldn't be removed. Keep in mind, Wikipedia is not a democracy, and there's not much of a "majority" here (I see you, and your un-logged-in IP address, and one other person), so I see 2:1 (the other two comments don't seem to go one way or the other, other than suggesting that the genre be supported by a reliable source, which for now it appears to be). MrMoustacheMM (talk) 00:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If that one article is your only proof of an entire genre then it's obivous that the genre isn't real. The article gives no other evidence or facts about the genre, except for saying "this is a brutal death metal album". Which you could've misinterpreted.Davidravenski (talk) 01:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not proof of an entire genre, it's proof that this album (and therefore this band) have been referred to as "brutal death metal". Why don't you try doing this the right way, and see if WP:RSN can support its removal? Your opinion about whether a genre exists or not is not reliable, and your continued removal is simply being disruptive. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 01:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And what will WP:RS do for me? is it the same thing as this "Rfc" that is just us debating about it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidravenski (talk • contribs) 01:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Try clicking on the link: WP:RSN. It should be pretty self-explanatory. But for a start: "Editors can post questions here about whether particular sources are reliable, in context, and editors interested in sourcing issues will answer." MrMoustacheMM (talk) 01:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted on it.Davidravenski (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Alright, that's probably the first reasonable argument given here to remove it. Based on the sources not being considered strong enough reliable sources, I'll remove the info. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Sourced (?) genre addition

message: I know that pickles left that band, and now they've broken up. But idk if that should really be reflected in the infobox, maybe a note of it can be made in the "fictional background" section. But lets be smart here, Brendon Small obviously isn't ending the band, and Dethklok will eventually get back together. If i recall correctly, in fatherklok skwisgaar left the band breifly. I just want to get some other editors opinions on this.Davidravenski (talk) 01:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Season 4 has ended so all character boxes should be updated as such. The band is still 'broken up', so to speak, but during the end credits Offdensen/the Black Klok priest strongly hint at a Season 5 where they must write a song/album to save the world. Since the band is seen leaving together (minus Toki/Abigail), I'm not sure how that will be reflected during Dethklok's live concerts. Safe to say they're still together unless Brendon Small gives us a hint outside of the episodes. 67.87.235.137 (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dethkloks "virtual" break up 

message: The lineup on the Heavy TO website does not mention the band. I've also been told the first concert since the last tour would be at Heavy MTL the same weekend. Can someone confirm if they played or not in Toronto on the 11th ? zubrowka74 23:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it seems that they've been dropped from heavy TO, MTL, and both days of knotfest. Probaly because of the lamb of god thing, i'm unsure if they'll be re-added when the tour is re scheduled but i'll go edit the page.Davidravenski (talk) 04:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually they did drop the whole tour with Lamb of God. Someone had told me the first concert was Heavy MTL but it seems that the tour started on the West Coast in early August. I can't access Cartoon Network' or Adult Swim's website here but there was a communiqué somewhere in there. zubrowka74 17:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy TO 

message: I think the section of Magnus should be moved over to the "dethklok" section on the "list of metalocalypse characters" page because he's such a minor character and doesn't really "deserve" a prime spot on this page. Davidravenski (talk) 05:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds reasonable. I say go for it. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magnus 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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message: The series revolves around a fictional rock band that has its own (fictional) discography. Shouldn't it be listed on the page, since other details about the fictional band already are? If I remember correctly, one of the fictional albums was Blood Ocean, there were even episodes featuring it.--87.255.89.160 (talk) 09:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional discography? 

message: Dethklok were featured in Brutal Legend's promo-short video as a band that Eddie Riggs (BL's protagonist) was working for, and saved from some demons (or just Hair Metal Militia's "employees", can't remember exactly). I think it should be mentioned somewhere.--87.255.89.160 (talk) 09:08, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dethklok in the Brutal Legend promo-short 

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