Talk:Foreign relations of Greece

message: Since Dogac's edit, the article contains much of the Turkish POV on the Cyprus crisis, and some statements which are certainly biased. A list of his points that I consider misleading:
* The de facto division of the island, which means that there wasn't (or worse, that there isn't) any other option that the Turkish occupation. Dogac seems to question himself saying that "EOKA does not exist any more. However, the Turkish troops remains in the island...".
* This invasion was justified by the guarantorship agreement between Turkey, Greece and Britain. From the Greek POV, this is more of a pretext than an actual reason.
* EOKA wasn't against the Turkish people of the island, but rather against the British sovereignty. EOKA though had a successor, the organization called EOKA II, which is the one responsible for certain actions against the Turkish people.
* The point that the fall of the Greek junta and the restoration of "constitutional democracy in the island" was thanks to the Turkish invasion... I cannot think of a more offensive statement than this. The restoration of democracy in Greece came with a heavy price, as many democratic Greeks were tortured, exiled or executed during the resistance against the junta. This statement attempts to glorify the Turkish invasion and present it as a tribute to Greek democracy.
Also Dogac has trimmed a sentence in the beginning of the Turkey section which read:
Greece and Turkey enjoyed good relations in the 1930s, but relations began to deteriorate in the mid-1950s, sparked by the Cyprus independence struggle and Turkish violence directed against the Greek minority in Istanbul.
saying that it was "unfair" that to say that any violent acts happened there.
The violence in Istanbul wasn't really sparked by the Cypriots' struggle against the British rule, but rather caused by the fear that an independent Cyprus might want to unite with Greece. However violence did occur. There were riots against the Greek minority and pressure from the Turkish authorities to force the Greeks to leave the country in the mid-fifties. As a result, only a few hundred Greeks live now in Istanbul.
Etz Haim 23:17, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey 

message: The article, as presently written, is wildly biased against the US, with lots of tendentious language.
:Would you be more specific on this one? Use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your comments. Etz Haim 23:12, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have edited the article to address some of your concearns. Also, I'd appreciate it if you became a registered user and signed your comments. Etz Haim 00:24, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  United States 

message: Eastern Thrace redirects to this article. Why? --Bjarki 01:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to know the same thing. edolen1 16:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's your answer.  When you went looking for "Eastern Thrace", what did you expect to get?  Jkelly 17:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastern Thrace 

message: The listing, with the Macedonia issue first is niether in order of importance as consitantly cited in journals, or even in alphabetic order:
Proper ordering of Foreign relations of Greece would be EU, Turkey, Macedonian Issue, Albania, followed by minor issues such as cultural artifacts (Elgin marbles)DaveHM 04:38, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Jkelly 05:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: This article claims that the name "Istanbul" derives from the Greek expression "is in poli", "to the city".  This seems unlikely.  Why would such an odd expression be used to name the town?  That Istanbul is a corruption of Constantinople (by way of [Ko]stan[tino]pol[is]) seems more reasonable.  If the claim is true, please provide some authority. +++Z Skull 207.118.64.102 05:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After occupation, turks changed all the old greek words to the turkish new ones in anatolia. Turkish sources says it is derved from Islambul. And really, many of turkish town have name ending with -bul, -bul is derived form of old turkish -balık, meaning city. Eg: balíkesir (capturedcity) etc. I may be wrong, any turk? --User:Touby 11:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: Should Greek support for Serbia be mentioned at all? – Zntrip 04:03, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbia 

message: There is now a upstart WikiProject to establish a concensus about WP's International bilateral relations articles, including "X-Y (country) relations" articles, at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Bilateral international relations. Interested parties should add their names at Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations/Bilateral relations task force if they wish to play a part in the discussions or have an Interest in this going forward. Thank you for your attention. CaribDigita (talk) 23:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: It is a huge chart, and not an attractive one, that duplicates what is already in the bottom infobox. Do we really need a link that is already duplicated in the infobox at the bottom? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 08:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: I noticed that since PASOK formed the government, the Prime Minister also assumed the position of Foreign Minister, and then there is an Alternate Foreign Minister (Dimitris Droustas), with possibly some Deputy Foreign Minister(s). Could someone explain this situation please? Thanks. – Kaihsu (talk) 14:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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message: This article has no mention of the long-standing relations between Greece and the country of Palestine. 
Internationally the accepted name for the Former Yugoslavic Republic of Macedonia is exactly that, FYROM. There is no recognised country called 'Republic of Macedonia'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.156.242 (talk) 13:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Republic of Macedonia will continue to be listed as "Republic of Macedonia" regardless of what Greece recognizes it as (WP:NCMAC). There is a reference to what Greece recognizes the Republic of Macedonia as in the introduction as well as the article itself. --Philly boy92 (talk) 02:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: The section on Albania is heavily biased and misleading. I suggest that references be provided or otherwise to be written in a less biased way. One small example is the paragraph stating that both countries were in a cease fire due to declaration of war from Albania during the WWII. Note that only Greece has that law since Albania was occupied in April 1939 by Italy and its foreign ministry suppressed. Also the Allies considered Albania a friendly power (due to its resistance). Or don't revise it... this is Wikipedia after all. --Purusbonum (talk) 12:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about the validity of this "officially still at war" thing, since there is no source to back it up, but keep in mind that Albania was not annexed by Italy in 1939: officially there was a distinct Albanian Kingdom in personal union with Italy, with an Albanian government, Albanian Fascist party, etc. Of course it was for all intents and purposes an Italian puppet, but de jure both Italy "and" Albania declared war on Greece in 1940 (there were even some purely Albanian units in the invasion army, although they distinctly lacked enthusiasm). And given the chaotic conditions that prevailed in both Albania and Greece after 1943, the Cold War etc, relations were frosty to non-existent. This was probably regarded as a non-issue and quite likely the 1989 thing was a pure formality, much like Montenegro and Japan still being at war after 100 years... There's a nice list on this, although I don't see the Greco-Italian War featuring in it. Constantine   ✍  14:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albania 

message: Can we begin to add content about the "Fingergate" fiasco which broke forth in German news media on March 16, 2015?  See: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102510745  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Untermenschlich-22 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly the most important issue in Greek foreign policy. It might be (somewhat) notable in the dedicated Germany–Greece relations article as an example of the current poor official relations, though. Constantine   ✍  16:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany 

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message: I have noticed a POV Check Tag was on the article's lead for many years but although it promtly asked to refer to Talk page for info about it, it does not explicly say what exact was the POV issue. If you believe I did a mistake to remove the POV Check Tag from this article and/or that the POV Check should stay at place, feel free to restore it yourself, and I could appreciate if can you point out on what exactly the POV issues are / where are they located, so we can have our attention on them and address them efficiently and quickly. 
I shall clarify to all visitors and editors of the page that if you are having disagreements over the Macedonia / FYROM naming policies, please abide by the rules Wikipedia has established for the solution of this problem: please check the following article: Wikipedia: Macedonia Naming Conventions. Have a good day. --SilentResident (talk) 15:24, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: In this aspect, the text in the beggining has lagged behind. First of all, Greece no longer has good relations with Russia (Greece enforced embargo and so did Russia, Greece accused Russia of spying on it) or Albania (Albania continuously harasses its Greek minority and claims Greek lands). On top of that, I believe that Greece's special relation with Cyprus shouldn't just be a "strong tie". LightningLighting (talk) 20:28, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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message: Individuals should refrain from removing or editing Albania, on the basis of personal bias and beliefs.
The two nations and peoples share a long history which includes complex relations, which are intertwined and play a significant role in the two states and region.
For better understanding of Greco-Albanian affairs, those using this article should conduct research elsewhere to avoid political, nationalistic and ethnic bias and truly get a better, in-depth and clearer picture of Greece-Albania affairs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.203.253 (talk) 22:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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