Talk:List of ammonium nitrate incidents and disasters

message: A lot of pages cite 3300t, but it's not clear if that's the AN, or total cargo. This other page cites 1700 for the AN, and includes a photo of a contemporary newspaper (although the text is too small to read). Thoughts? 185.126.62.101 (talk) 16:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a shame that the data on this is inconsistent and this event is so (proportionately) obscure, when it's possibly the largest AN disaster ever, and certainly one of the largest. For now, I'm comfortable with listing a range of possible quantities. What do you think?  Or, if we think one quantity is more likely than another, list that as the quantity but with a note next to it for the caveat? -- 185.126.62.101 (talk) 14:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ocean Liberty 

message: When I created this article a bot showed that it was a copyvio, however, I am just splitting the article from Ammonium nitrate. It is possibly an error on the bot's part. Eric Wester 15:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some research here and found that this is because the website actually adapted it's content from Wikipedia! Eric Wester 16:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue 

message: there is not enough info! more plz on the specifics of the Kriewald Explosion
  152.26.15.129 (talk)
There is NO info on Kriewald, Morgan, and Traskwood. The linked articles contain nothing alluding to any sort of nitrate explosion as described. 99.61.69.126 (talk) 21:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Kriewald

message: There are just not enough credible citations here.  And even the ones I'm looking into are more than suspect.  Take this one for instance:
:Tessenderlo, Belgium, 1942
:Belgium Another attempt to disaggregate a pile of 150 tonnes of ammonium nitrate with industrial explosives ended tragically on April 29, 1942: several hundred people were killed.[2]
That [2] citation leads to a broken link, and even if it worked it would be backing up a sentence that says nearly nothing about the context.
PLEASE place a warning placard here indicating more than the usual "citations needed" variants.  Place a "word in progress" here, or you may end up with casual visitors hacking through things in anger.  I really want to see this article work---it's a fascinating subject.  Some years ago Scientific American covered it in an article "Deadly Nitrogen".  But this page needs work.  Label it strongly as such.Tgm1024 (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No way, no how yet.  Put up a warning placard. 

message: Numerous examples of misspellings and poor grammar in this article.  There are also a lot of verbal inconsistencies (ton, tonne, tones)
E.G
At midnight on January 6, 1998, the Xinghua Fertilizer company got explosions in the plant. About 27.6 ton Ammonium nitrate liquor was in the container.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.197.76 (talk) 14:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOFIXIT. Keri (talk) 15:23, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  poor writing in this article.. 

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message: Article has good introductory paragraph, but functions better as a List. So, I have moved it, and added divisions between 20th and 21st century. May consider other divisions, for ease of reference. Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 02:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved to List 

message: "Pure, compact AN is stable and very difficult to initiate. However, there are numerous cases when even impure AN did not explode in a fire."
The "However" should be obviously removed since the second sentence does not contrast the first (which the word "However" suggests). I won't do it out of fear of "ban-trigger-happy" admins. (Nice going btw)
--Felix Tritschler (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong use of "However" 

message: I wonder if this fact as a place in this article: In 2013-2014 a Beirut law firm seeking the repatriation of the Rhosus’s crew to Russia and Ukraine urged the port’s general manager to remove the ship's cargo (ammonium nitrate that would eventually explode in 2020) to avoid “a maritime catastrophe.” The law firm attached emails from the ship’s charterer warning about its “EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CARGO” and a 15-page Wikipedia entry cataloguing “ammonium nitrate disasters.”
I have just added this information to Wikipedia:Wikipedia as a court source, and I also wanted to note this at least in this talk page.
Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 05:06, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is already mentioned in the note at the top of this page. --Ita140188 (talk) 08:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes! Sorry for the oversight. And thank you for your response.Al83tito (talk) 16:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article was cited in legal proceedings related to the [[2020 Beirut explosion]], as cautionary tales prior to the disaster taking place