Talk:Gene Cernan

message: I thought the last words spoken by Eugene Cernan on the moon were "Let’s get this mutha outta here." rather than what is quoted on the page.
See http://www.newyorker.com/critics/books/articles/051003crbo_books for reference.
I'll see what others think and perhaps make the change; I think it's likely Cernan uttered both quotes so perhaps both could be included.
Thanks
:I suspect the "last words" quoted are the "official" ones...  Trekphiler 00:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last words 

message: As far as I know, he is better known without his middle name.  Should the page be moved?  Reywas92TalkSigs 21:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: So how did the article about Gene Cernan get to be called by his full first-middle-last name in the first place? Neil Armstrong's article is just Neil Armstrong.  Alan Bean's article is just Alan Bean. Alan Shepard's article is just Alan Shepard.
I strongly recommend that the entire article about Eugene Cernan be transferred to Eugene Cernan and that the Eugene Andrew Cernan page either be made a redirect page or deleted entirely.
I work for a planetarium that is named for Captain Cernan. I know Captain Cernan personally. Although like most everyone else, he HAS a middle name, he has never gone by Eugene Andrew Cernan. Sometimes he has gone by Eugene A. Cernan, but never the full three names.
If Wikipedia is striving for consistency -- and it should! -- then please look at every other article you have on astronauts and tell me that Captain Cernan's article should still go by "Eugene Andrew Cernan." For reasons that escape me, Wikipedia didn't follow its own policy when this article was first created. Subsequent improvements to the article were built on an article with an incorrect name. Two wrongs do not make a right!
Bart 01:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can post this at WP:RM to get a proper discussion. For the record, I would support a move back to the simple name (without the middle name), since he is better known this way and there is no need for disambiguation with other Eugene Cernans. Fram 14:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it should be Gene Cernan like he's usually called. AFterall, Buzz Aldrin and not Edwin Aldrin is the name of that article. And Gus Grissom, not Virgil Grissom. 70.51.9.86 05:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur with the post. --68.51.72.144 (talk) 16:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please re-title this article "Eugene Cernan."  Here's why . . . 

message: Can someone make this more like the format of the other Apollo astronaut articlesPiersmasterson (talk) 16:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format 

message: I just reverted a good faith edit, noting that Cernan was "the last Boilermaker" on the moon.  It seemed awkward, even if you included a statement explaining what that meant.  I just added a sentence mentioning that Armstrong and Cernan were both Purdue grads, but could not find a really appropriate place to add it.  I certainly didn't want a trivia section, so I dumped it at the end.  I still don't like it, but I am hoping that someone might think of a better place to add it, without creating a trivia section. LonelyBeacon (talk) 15:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Armstrong/Cernan/Purdue

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message: Simply said: Did Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan always have had that name or did he once had another name which was changed later to the actual form? What is his birth name?
"Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan [...] native of Chicago, Illinois, son of a Czech mother and a Slovak father, he received his father's name, originally spelled Ondrej Čerňan (IPA: [ˈondrɛj ˈtʃɛrɲan]). "
Does that mean: "Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan (name from birth on) was [particularly] named after his father, Andrew Cernan (born Ondrej Čerňan)." ?
Or does that mean: "Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan (born Ondrej Čerňan), was originally named [fully] after his father('s born name) Ondrej Čerňan." ?
It's not clear what the cited sequence means (and there's no source citation in there for that, clearifying it) - whether the astronaut had originally [by birth] received the same name like his father, who's name always was and is Ondrej Čerňan, but that the astronaut later changed his own name and adding the "Eugene"; or simply if the astronaut by birth was named after his father Eugene Andrew Cernan, who's name originally was spelled Ondrej Čerňan, but changed it after immigration to the US to Andrew Cernan, before the birth of his son, the astronaut...
The difference is whether (it is meant that) the astronaut was originally spelled "Ondrej Čerňan" (without the "Eugene"), or his father (who's name then later would have been Andrew Cernan, right?).
If the astronaut originally was born as Ondrej Čerňan, it should be clearly expressed that way; and if the astronaut's name from birth on always was Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan, but that only just his father, Andrew Cernan, originally was born "Ondrej Čerňan", that should be clearified otherwise, simply by just stating like it is in other biography-articles, that Eugene 'Gene' Andrew Cernan was born to [mother's changed name] (originally spelled [mother's born name]) and Andrew Cernan (originally spelled Ondrej Čerňan) - if this would be that way, it could be clearly seen for everyone - without it must be written down anymore that unspecific - , that the son was named after his father, but not completely [otherwise this could indicate to think that either the astronaut was originally named Andrew Cernan, jr. or that his father changed his own born name Ondrej Čerňan after the birth of his son to Eugene Andrew Cernan (if he would have done it before the birth, his son's name would be Eugene Andrew Cernan, jr. - although this of course would be hypothetic, because it seems crazy to think about the possibility that one's own name changes (getting/losing a "jr.", etc.) just because someone else in your family changes his/her name to or from your own one's...)].  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.90.73.103 (talk) 17:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth name = ? 

message: Hi, I've added a non-contentious sentence about Cernan's appearance on an episode of the Sky at Night back in 2007. I'm having difficulty adding the reference for this edit (in edit mode, the "Reference" section is not showing me any of the current references). I'll add the reference for my edit when I've figured out how to overcome this.Treagle (talk) 13:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Popular Culture section entry - adding reference problem 

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message: and yes, it was by definition an Unidentified Flying Object.
Why wouldn't that be on this page, like that's a pretty big thing in pop culture, and he reported it, and it was featured in a song by Daft Punk! it's out there...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:405:4202:C7F0:8D74:35F8:AA97:DC7 (talk) 09:04, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The UFO he spotted 

message: mention a pilot during time of vietnam but no mention of # missions, who he killed , bombed etc?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juror1 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnam War 

message: Once we expand the Apollo 10 section I would love to include this photo. Lots of good images on that account! Kees08 (Talk) 01:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: From the James McDivitt article:
:When the selection of Gene Cernan to command the Apollo 17 mission was announced, McDivitt confronted Kraft over not being consulted about it, and threatened to resign unless Cernan was removed. Kraft consulted with Slayton, who gave  of a January 1971 helicopter accident that Cernan had been involved in. Kraft then informed McDivitt that Cernan's selection stood, and McDivitt resigned, although he stayed on until the end of the Apollo 16 mission.
The above needs mentioning in Gene Cernan. What was this helicopter accident? jnestorius(talk) 12:38, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Cernan discusses it in his autobiography. Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:15, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I agree, I need more on this. 137.188.108.49 (talk) 20:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 1971 helicopter accident? 

message: this text.. "documentary In the Shadow of the Moon in which he said, "truth needs no defense" and "nobody can take those footsteps I made on the surface of the Moon away from me". Doesn't explain the context... when the reader scrolls down to the references, we can see it, but it might be nice to have the context in the body of the article itself. 137.188.108.49 (talk) 19:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moon landing deniers