Talk:Giotto

message: Overall this article seems to be informative but there are a few areas I feel like the clarity could be improved. In particular, in the middle paragraph of the frescos of the upper church at Assisi are a bit confusing and then a sentence in the sequence section of the Scrovegni chapel about the faded blue color is oddly worded. Additionally, I feel like this article relies heavily on two or three sources of information with just bits and pieces of information from other sources. Although I understand that much of the information about Giotto's life is taken from Vasari's Lives of Artists, this information seems heavily debated and therefore it may be best to find a few more sources. Finally some sections seem to be missing citations entirely. For example, the style section fro the Scrovegni chapel has only one reference and the Stefaneschi TriptychIt section has no citations. It may be that this information is from a previously cited source in the article but it is not clear where this information is coming from.  Esmithwick (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations and Language

message: The verbatim of the full Vasari quote is "Et insieme a Fiorenza inviatisi, non solo in poco tempo pareggiò il fanciullo la maniera di Cimabue, ma ancora divenne tanto imitatore della natura, che ne’ tempi suoi sbandí affatto quella greca goffa maniera, e risuscitò la moderna e buona arte della pittura, et introdusse il ritrar di naturale le persone vive, che molte centinaia d’anni non s’era usato." (i.e. from http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_vite_de'_pi%C3%B9_eccellenti_pittori,_scultori_e_architettori_(1550)/Giotto)
Vasari would have not used Byzantine.  --Alessandro Riolo (talk)  20:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The English translation that is quoted here uses the term "Byzantine", which is the style to which the term "greca" referred. Amandajm (talk) 21:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That English translation is ante litteram. I would never translate that "Greca" with "Byzantine". --Alessandro Riolo (talk) 22:50, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed the problem by changing the information to a statement, instead of a direct quotation.  Amandajm (talk) 04:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Vasari says "Greek" 

message: Is this really correct? It seems strange given that elsewhere Giotto is referred to as Cimabue's apprentice ? Or were there two Cimabues?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.204.150.110 (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Giotto's slave, Cimabue, (??) 

message: I remember this fellow's name from Dante, but I don't remember what transpired or where he was placed. Anyone remember? --24.51.94.14 04:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Placing in the Divine Comedy

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thread_title:  [[Cultural depictions of Giotto di Bondone]] 

message: If there is any picture of Giotto's artwork when he painted a fly on it and it looked so realistic people shooed it away. let me know Wrestling Maniac 00:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP!

message: I've read a few ago that in 1334, the Florence's Council proclaimed that. I need a page source for it. ( and also, any one could check the ortography and the grammar? thanks)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.27.16.94 (talk) 13:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please get back to us with more information about this. If you copy what it says in the book directly to this page, I will simplify it if necessary, and insert the info. I've deleted it for the time being, because, although I get the gist of it, it would be good to know exactly what the council said.  :-) Amandajm (talk) 15:10, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A biography apport 

message: Is "Italian" appropriate, given that a complete "Italian" country was a few years off? Wouldn't "Florentine" make more sense? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 16:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: I think it bares mentioning that Divinci was greatly influenced by giotto.
Divinci's most recognizable works are the "circle" of the vitruvian man and the deep unnatural shading of the Mona Lisa reminicent of Giottos figures in a scene from the Arena Chapel or Morning of St Francis in Bardi Chaple.
:Sparky,  Please don't write his name as Divinci! It is da (meaning "of") Vinci. Vinci is a town. He is Leonardo of Vinci. When he was in Vinci they would have called him Leonardo of Ser Piero. Ser Piero (Mr Piero) was his father. 
:*There is a long line of painters between Giotto and Leonardo. By the time that Leonardo was a boy, many artists since Giotto had painted naturalistic figures and many artists had experimented with light and shade on faces. Of course the Bardi Chapel frescoes would have looked much more impressive then than they do now, and Leonardo would have looked at them, and heard the stories about Giotto. But he would also have seen Massaccio's famous Adam and Eve, and the powerfully drawn faces of the Brancacci Chapel. 
:*Leonardo knew far more about light than Giotto did. It was one of his subjects of study. 
:*As for the circle, well, Leonardo had a passion for geometery, and was employed to draw a series of geometric shapes for a book on geometery, call "Divine Proportion" by Luca Pacioli. 
:The famous drawing of a man in a circle, called the Vitruvian Man doesn't go back to Giotto. It goes back a lot further than that. Leonardo was illustrating an idea written more than a thousand years earlier by Vitruvius. 
:Giotto is believed to have drawn a circle, freehand. Leonardo drew a circle with a man inside. I ask you to imagine how many artists, architects, sculptors, hat makers, tray makers, shield makers, potters and maths students had drawn circles or made circular things in Florence, in the two hundred years between Giotto and Leonardo. Uccello, for one, was passionate about the geometry of circles. He must have drawn hundreds of them in his lifetime. 
:*I am not saying that Giotto had no influence on Leonardo. He did. But his influence was filtered through a long chain of people, before it reached Leonardo. 
:Amandajm (talk) 11:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mona Lisa 

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