Talk:Sarma (food)

message: They are also a well known in German Cuisine where they are known as Kohlrollen.
Is it spelled Kohlrouladen?
--buzlink 17:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it was certainly misplaced, so I rephrased it and moved. I also renamed the last section from the rather pompous "Cultural significance" to "Serving"merryXIV 16:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kohlrollen

message: I think that citing the related meal as a country's national dish is the new way of standing out in the article. I don't think it's really necessary and worth mentioning in the article. Furthermore, as we can guess, there can be numerous countries considering the related meal as their national dish. Shall we keep another long list of national dishes in the article? Thanks. --Chapultepec (talk) 02:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: An exception might be made if someone can show (with sources) that sarma is considered the national dish par excellence of some country, like fondue for Switzerland and haggis for Scotland. AFAIK sarma is just one of many popular dishes in Serbian cuisine.
That's reasonable, I agree with you. Not only in this article, but in general, if a meal is indeed a "par excellence" of a country, that is worth mentioning, of course along with its references. --Chapultepec (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: National dish

message: In most cases people don't make a distinction between the two.  Dolma can be (and is often) used for both Dolma and Sarma dishes, but Sarma is sometimes used to dishes that are "wrapped" (i.e. leaf/cabbage dishes).  Sarma(Food) need only be a section the Dolma article, not an entire one on its own.  Both Dolma and Sarma dishes usually share the same filling and similar preparations etc, and are derived from the same concept.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alperyasar (talk • contribs) 02:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm agree, same foods!Glavior (talk) 20:59, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  So, for you "Enginar Dolma" or "Uskumru Dolma" are derived from the same concept and usually share the same filling with say "Lahana Sarma". Congratulations... --E4024 (talk) 23:12, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge with Dolma 

message: It is not traditional in Croatia (and Serbia, and Bosnia and Herzegovina) to eat meat on Christmas eve, because usually fasting last until mass on Christmas eve (Badnje večer). Sarma is eaten on Christmas day, both for catholic and orthodox. Bosniaks (muslims) do not celebrate Christmas. Please correct: 
In Croatia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and the Republic of Macedonia sarmale (сарма) is a traditional meal for Christmas Eve (in Serbia also for Easter).
Yummy, Yummy :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.238.65.171 (talk) 18:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  chrismas eve 

message: Although strictly speaking these are the leaves belonging to the grape, they are always known in English as "vine leaves" (not "wine" with a "w" - the reference is not to the drink but to the plant). I actually had to stop for a moment to think what "grape leaves" was supposed to mean, then I remembered the Greek dish "dolmades", which is known in English as "stuffed vine leaves". "Grape leaves" is not an acceptable alternative - the term is simply never used by native English-speakers. I'd correct this myself, but the first reference is a link to the "Grape" article, and I don't want to damage the link by changing the word - the link from "vine" to an article called "Grape" may in any case be confusing. At one point this appears as "leaves of grapes", which sounds even less English - this too should become "vine leaves". I can only conclude this article has been written by a non-native user of English who did not bother to have it checked first by a native one.212.30.86.78 (talk) 11:54, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Grape leaves" 

message: These two names for the same plant are used indiscriminately in this article, as if they were different species. Since the link takes you to an article called "Patience dock", I suggest this term be used throughout.212.30.86.78 (talk) 11:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monk's rhubarb / patience dock 

message: It would be better to create the food spinouts as they are needed, this article can merge into the parent without overburdening it. Both have been stubs since 2005. Seraphim System (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Vine leaf roll]] 

message: Both articles cover the same material. Vine leaf wrap is just Sarma using vine leaves. It's not a separate dish.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertan92 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Support Well, I moved some of the details about sarma here not for reasons of language but for practical reasons that the sarma section was becoming rather long relative to the other sections and risked overburdening the article. I'm not expecting this to be controversial since the vine leaf roll article is mostly a copy of content from this article, so I will merge them sometime in the next few days. Seraphim System (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Klbrain (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with "Vine Leaf Wrap" article? 

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