Talk:The Ultimate Fighter 5

message: Hey, no spoiler's man. You just spoiled the Corey Hill vs. Gabe Rudeger fight for me. Why?
:Uhh, first, you'll notice that there's a spoiler warning at the top of the page, saying don't look any further if you don't want stuff to get spoiled. Second, why did you look here for information? You could've gone somewhere else without it getting "spoiled." Third, it's not like that fight could've been spoiled anyways...did you honestly expect Gabe to have a chance? Fourth, are you expecting an answer to "Why?" from the "man" that spoiled it for you? "Aw yeah, I was just wanting to screw around with you and ruin your viewing experience." Come on dude, think things through a bit.--Blingice 19:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

message: "The match was called, and when Ruediger returns to the house, he becomes a pariah with only his friend Andy Wang offering any support."
I did not see Andy giving him any sort of support during the course of the show. In fact, I don't even remember Andy contributing the slightest during this particular show, and it was more Gray Maynard that was helping him out pre-hospital. After he came back, everyone essentially said "screw you." I'm removing the part about Andy Wang unless there was some sort of insider report on the show that someone can cite.--Blingice 19:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gabe's supporters 

message: I removed the following, only to have it reverted back:
Can someone explain to me how this is of any consequence to the show? The first one is a throwaway line by a coach. A coach always comments on a fighter before the fight, I fail to see why this comment is so special that it eclipses all other comments by other coaches about other fighters.
As for the second line, it's also another throwaway line from the same pre-fight vignettes that are not recorded on this page. Clogar, if you want to explain why they are so important, please do, otherwise they should go for cluttering the page. hateless 09:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have evidence anywhere to say that nickname stuck? For all intents and purposes, his "official" nickname is still J-Lau, and his nickname has no consequences in the show. If you must, and if you find that his nickname was changed, it would be more appropriate to note it on Joe Lauzon, where it would be much more useful to people actually looking for Lauzon info. As for the second point, fighter histories in the UFC are always discussed, esp in this and the last season, and a recap of one's UFC career is always presented. Joe does not get special treatment in this regard. The fact that Joe defeating Pulver is quite remarkable, but in the context of the series, it's really important at all. That victory doesn't show up until the seventh episode and Corey Hill's fight record had more coverage than Joe's win. To me, that's bias. Geraghty's attitude toward that match does not belong there, and if that point stays it should be edited down to just note the win and not the reactions around it. As for "it shows a reason why Lauzon wanted to be on Penn's team", that's synthesis (see WP:OR) and leading the reader to a conclusion. That's not an appropriate material for the encyclopedia if that was the intent. hateless 18:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Um, what? Every episode has not referred to Lauzon as "Creepy Joe." You can mention Joe's win over Pulver, but Geraghty's "I forgot it even happened" is a bit too much still. hateless 07:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minutia

message: Anyone else notice that this is the only season of TUF that has the complete details of the fights and what happens in the house? Why is that? Shouldn't this season be written up like the other seasons?(MgTurtle 15:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because of new editors, see the discussion above. I don't necessarily think new editors are in the wrong, I think TUF1 episode summaries were a bit bare and probably should be expanded. Also, it seems like the level of drama in the show has exploded, especially this new season. It might be time to expand the Results section to a proper list of episodes with a short description in paragraph form...key word short. hateless 07:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraphs? 

message: In the description of the 8th episode, I noticed that there seems to be a sort of dialectical/colloquial sort of jargon going on:
"White and Penn draw up the same fights, but Pulver disagrees, and accuses White and Penn of working together to screw his team."
"Gamburyan reckons that all the fights are horrible, apart from his fight with Wiman."
"White thinks that Miller has the ground advantage, and Lauzon has the standing advantage, but he reckons the fight will be on the ground, and reckons that Miller will win."
I don't know if "reckons" or "screw" are effective terms here. They seem rather regional or age-oriented (although I'd imagine anyone that cares about this entry understands them perfectly fine).
Just thoughts. --Blingice 07:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Screw" is improper, per WP:BETTER. It's not businesslike language. As for overusage of "rhetoric", I think it's merely just clumsy writing and can be replaced at any time with brilliant prose. hateless 07:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rhetoric 

message: I removed the spoiler tag from the section marked "Results" because it seems superfluous.  The Results section can be expected to discuss the results. --Tony Sidaway 00:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoiler tag

message: Can someone fix the Rob Emerson's name in The Ultimate Fighter box at the bottom of the page? I know that his full name is Robert Emerson but the page that the link goes to is not the same Rob Emerson. I don't know how to change it myself.Thank you (MgTurtle 20:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, designated Rob Emerson for the mma fighter and turned Robert Emerson into a disambig page. For reference, templates can be edited via Template:The Ultimate Fighter 5. hateless 20:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rob/Robert Emerson 

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