Talk:Billy Donovan

message: The picture of Billy Donovan is grainy and looks like it was taken from an old cell phone camera. He deserves a better picture than that!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.150.148 (talk) 03:43, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need a better picture 

message: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/032709source_donovan_leaving_UCF  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.154.82 (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  HE'S COMING TO KENTUCKY!

message: Donovan's father is not the 3rd all-time scoring leader at BC.  He scored 1,012 points in his college career, making him the 32nd all-time scorer in BC history according to the 2006-7 media guide.  See page 30 of http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/0607guide-history.pdf.
Billy Donovan did not play in the championship game as a player.  As a senior at providence in 1987, Providence lost in the final four.  I believe to Syracuse.
I tried to correct this mistake, but I'm not allowed as a new user. The article states that Donovan played in the championship game as a player, and this is inaccurate.
There have also been rumors that the Miami Heat are possibly interested in hiring Donovan if Pat Riley retires.--[Nick Mourn
141.150.100.44 05:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake 

message: Hey guys, this talk page is for discussing improvement to the Billy Donovan article, it's not a kitchen talk blog. Take your ideas about Billy being "the man" or whatever else elsewhere. Please use this page to hammer out ways of enhancing the main article and leave it at that. Any further comments not pertaining to the article will be deleted.   Veracious Rey  T  C  20:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Focus on the article, not conjecture 

message: As of March 28, 2007, the section on the rumors concerning Donovan's possible acceptance open UK head coach position is relevant to the topic. Depending on how events play out, it may need to be expanded, reduced or deleted. But as this article is a current event article for the time being, and this is a direct result of the rumors of him returning to Kentucky, then its removal is unmerited. SonPraises 08:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the section has been summarized to two sentences, and tacked on the end of his the coaching career section.  But while it was still subject to considerable media coverage, it was relevent to the article as a whole. SonPraises 02:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK Rumor 

message: I am reinstating the UK Rumor Section.  Despite the Veracious Ray's contention that the section is "nothing but opinionated nonsense", the section is discussion whether or not speculation concerning Donovan accepting the UK coaching position is relevant to the article.  While there was some drifting from that, airing those feelings helps create consensus while unilaterally declaring content to be "nothing but opinionated nonsense" does not.
The removal of the entire section, then, was an overly broad action taken without regard for the lower standard of a talk page, and ironically was based on one editor's own personal opinion, since it overlooked that a discussion of whether or not an entire section of an article is relevant to the overall article, would seem itself not just "opinionated nonsense" but hypocritical opinionated nonsense. SonPraises 03:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And the section has been summarized to two sentences, and tacked on the end of his the coaching career section.  But while it was still subject to considerable media coverage, it was relevent to the article as a whole. SonPraises 02:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UK Section (Rationale for reinstatement)

message: Late Sunday, June 3, reports state that Billy Donovan has changed his mind, and no longer wants to coach the Orlando Magic, and instead wants return to University of Florida.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2892334
Reported by ESPN's Andy Katz:
Apparently, in Billy Donovan's world, the grass isn't greener in the NBA. According to sources, Donovan -- who on Thursday signed a five-year, $27.5 million contract with Orlando -- has approached the Magic about getting out of the deal and returning to the University of Florida, where he coached the Gators to the last two national championships. The decision, according to the sources, rests with the Magic.
--CoastersNSich 04:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donovan Having Second Thoughts? 

message: Until Donovan is released from his contract with Orlando, he is the coach of the Magic. 
After that, Donovan will need to agree to terms to rejoin the University of Florida.
In all likelihood, he will be released from his contract with the Magic; however, it is not appropriate to call him the "possible head coach" of the Gators. I have edited this to reflect he is the former Gators coach. One may wish to list him as Magic coach until it's official he's been released from his contract, but I won't be the one to take that step.
::I changed him to just a BBall coach for now since he has officially been released from his contract as reported on ESPN and AP.  He is not officially back with the Gators as of this second, however.  Since it is a 99.9999999% certainty he will be reintroduced as the coach tomorrow, I don't know if it matters or not if someone lists him as the current Gator coach. --WTStoffs 02:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should he get a Utah Jazz head coach succession box? jareha (comments) 13:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donovan's job status 

message: As he signed a contract to coach the magic, he is considered a head coach.  You do not have to coach a game to be considered a coach if you signed the contract.  He then reached an agreement with the Magic to be released from its terms.  He was still the coach.  Stop deleting the references to him coaching the magic. Ferrett3 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gregg Marshall was not College of Charleston's coach, and Dana Altman was not the University of Arkansas' coach.  They are not part of the respective coaching histories with those groups, and Billy Donovan will not be considered part of the Orlando Magic's coaching history.  To keep in line with the precedent set in other articles, I'm removing the references.  --fuzzy510 21:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quite sure. History is going to show that these people were in fact head coaches of their respective teams, albeit with an asterisk. Gregg Marshall did indeed hold the title of coach for his team, Dana Altman did in fact hold the title of coach for his team, and Billy Donovan did in fact hold the title of "head coach" for the Orlando Magic. There is no disputing this. While the media guides and what not might try to spin a certain agenda, as they have been known to do in the past (claiming national championships, wins, and/or certain records), independent source can verify that these people were in fact coaches for their respective teams for a period of time. They may have never coached a game for the teams, but they still held the position of coach. Pepsidrinka 21:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In which case, as the precedent has been, it should certainly be mentioned in the article - I'm not making a case for outright removal of any information.  That's what the articles are for.  It should not, however, be mentioned in the infoboxes and whatnot, since those only list the coaches who have actually held the office.  In the case of Billy Donovan, he hadn't even cleaned out his office or given up his keys at Florida - he was still the coach there.  That would, as I interpret it, make it incorrect to end his term at Florida, since he didn't end his term at Florida.  At that point, you make adding an entry for a job that he didn't truly perform and that the Magic doesn't recognize him as holding an overly confusing process.  --fuzzy510 21:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with Fuzzy. There's no need to clutter up templates and infoboxes with superfluous data. That said, the information is germane and should be included in the article text. Вasil | talk 23:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: But the thing is, he did end his term at Florida. There was no coach for the University of Florida men's basketball team for those 4 or 5 days. And also, he was the coach of the Orlando Magic for those 4 or 5 days. But to claim that because he didn't clean out of his office or that he still had his keys, that doesn't change anything - he was still the coach of the Magic. Your coach by the title your given, not by the actions you perform. For example, many people say that Dick Cheney runs the country, but that doesn't change the fact that George Bush is the president. Regardless if someone coached or not, if their title was coach, then that is what should be said. I see what your saying about not wanting to clutter up the infoboxes, while I disagree, if that is what the consensus holds, then that is fine. Pepsidrinka 11:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with fuzzy510, too. Donovan did not coach the Magic. —Bender235 16:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donovan coached the Magic 

message: #18  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.161.129 (talk) 20:56, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Link 

message: This section entirely fails WP:OR. No criteria is used for the basis of these players being called out separately from the myriad other notable basketball alums at Florida. I'm going to remove it unless (1) a description for inclusion criteria is added in that subsection, or (2) someone beats me to it and removes it themselves. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The criteria is obviously players coached by Donovan who were NBA draft picks. The only exception is Udonis Haslem, who wasn't drafted but who became a long-time starter for the Miami Heat and was a vital part of their 2006 championship team. There's no need to delete anything. Zeng8r (talk) 01:16, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry but "obviously" isn't good enough. Read WP:OR. See also . Jrcla2 (talk) 01:24, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Their draft positions are clearly listed - how much more obvious does it need to be? And what other former Florida (or Marshall) players would you include among the "myriad" to choose from? As a loooong-time Gator fan, I'd say that list is pretty comprehensive. Zeng8r (talk) 01:31, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

text: *Is that better? Zeng8r (talk) 01:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Easy solution: let's add two or three sentences of text that describe why these players are listed.  The players are notable on their own (otherwise they would not have Wikipedia articles), they had very successful college careers under Billy Donovan, and they have all had successful NBA careers.  Sources for each player can include their NBA.com and Basketball-Reference.com profiles, and the inro text can be supported by material from the online PDF version of the 2011-12 Florida Gators Men's Basketball Media Guide.  Why are we arguing about his?  Jrcla has a point, and demands text and sources.  Let's give him both.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Blessed are the peacemakers, for one of them just made himself more wikiwork to do. :) Zeng8r (talk) 01:41, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Notable players coached"?

message: I'm wondering if there is much more recent pic of him, since the one that is here is blurry and pretty much outdated? Like, it was taken in 2006, surely the pixels might be better in 2013/2014 photo. --Mishae (talk) 17:22, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

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