Talk:Patras

message: OY!
* Greeklish/Bad English- what is that, you say? all your smurf are belong to smurf! (It's ok you don't understand what i just said, i don't understand the main article, either...)
* EMBEDDED HTML -- It must be Monday today... I never could get the hang of Mondays...
* Urban Legends: The tidbit about the carnaval of Patras being the third best in the world is basically an um, urban legend/ propagated by the local authorities of Patra. It started off around 1990-1993, when long-standing  announcer of the carnaval Alkis Steas (a Dick Clark figure), started rambling about how this carnival is one of the top three in the world, because representatives of the Rio and Venice carnavals were attending. Nobody ever politely asked him to "STFU, YOU OLD FOOL!"  
* PICTURES of the city! time to check the capabilities of my brand-spanking-new digital Nikon
(More to come)
Project2501a 11:11, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: An abundance of information floods the article. Thus, it has a very high potential. Still, we have to restructure it in order to achieve elegance. There is a large pile of information to accommodate and new contributions arriving frequently. I think the best strategy to follow is this:
*We keep the total number of sections low. 
*We shouldn't add a new section just on its own shake when there are just two lines of information.
*When some part of an old section becomes large, it gets its own section.
*When a section gets really large it gets its own article and we keep a summary here.
Also:
*Remove the extensive lists and replace them with text.
*Remove duplicate information when it is excessive.
At least, I will follow this strategy. Hope you like it. I would like your additions and contributions.
Energon 00:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Structural Strategy

message: Let's make this article great. What's missing from it, is prototype information. It has good articles, on every sector of the city life. Still, it is missing the extraordinary.
So, I would suggest:
PHOTOS
*to accompany Research (preferably, the impressive ITY building)
*of the new ultra-modern archaeological museum
MAPS
*of the city subdivisions and suburbs --> Done Energon (talk) 13:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tentative List

message: Isn't the usual name in English "Patras"?  In which case, Wikipedia policy says we should use that as the article title while of course mentioning the Greek name in the text. --Macrakis 21:50, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is, and that's what we should use. See my inexcusably inappropriate comments at Talk:Peloponnese (Warning: explicit language). --Jpbrenna 00:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  If this is correct, you should probably change the article to use Patras rather than Patra. Talrias (t | e | c) 01:56, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have turned Patra into a disambig page, rather than a redirect, as there at least 2 other uses of the word that I know of. I'll try and fix any links to the original Patra page over the next couple of days. --Bwmodular 13:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I don't know any important companies in metal processing located in Patras.
Does anyone know something about that or we should remove it from the page? Energon 20:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Manufacturing

message: I think it is far too streched to include this city in the Urban area of Patras.
I must admit that there are grounds for believing this, however a recent paper by professor Vassilis Pappas ERSA conference, concludes that : 
"Today, and according to the extents of built space and all natures of flows and networks in this, the wider urban complex tends to include and the Municipalities of Rion, Antirrion and Navpactos. The relation of interdependence Patras – Rion is undeniable. The other two Municipalities, Antirrion and Navpactos present to-day a relative lifting of pre-existed "withholding of" contacts, because the cost (time and eco-nomic) of passing the canal via ferries, but not in the expected rhythms. Resent unofficial meas-urements show that the increase of vehicles traffics, via the bridge, has been increased in a per-centage of 20–25%. Undeniably and in any case, Patras constitutes a first degree centre of ser-vices for the three other Municipalities, as well as for the entire region of Western Greece".
Because the topic may seem debatable, I would like users to elaborate more on the arguments for or against this suggestion, so that we could amicably conclude about the appropriate reference. As I lack specialist knowledge on the subject of urban science, I can only infer through such kind of sources. --Conudrum 15:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nafpaktos

message: Could anybody contribute accurate statistical data on population, area, economy, environment for this town? Donnerstag 01:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of statistical data 

message: First of all, I am not sure about how long the section "history" in this article should be and what is accepatable by wikipedia standards. Is it prudent to create a separate article under the title "History of Patras" or to continue the existing article? However, there are important facts that go unmentioned --for instance this article dedicates just a few words about the byzantine period. Just an example of what is probably in ommission: in the middle byzantine period (9th century) the rich widow Danielis from Patras owned half of the Peloponnese and 3,000 slaves (See also Steven Runciman, the historian of Patras Triantafullou, or even the byzantine Theophanes). When her protégé Basil I became an emperor of the Byzantine empire, she travelled by land to Constantinople in order to visit him. Even if the personal story seems insignificant, the flourishing carpet industry of Danielis is indicative of the wealth of Patras in that era and therefore worth mentioning. I must say that it is really useful that Arethas of Patras was recently included in the article. Please feel free to express your thoughts.--Conudrum 10:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History of Patras

message: But Im going to do my changes again. The wiki image standard size is 180px. Definately not 460px! Luke C 09:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   I dont want a revert war 

message: :: I would like to ask why the link of gaypatras.gr was removed?It's a site of the LGBT community of Patras containing a forum, news concerning the local gay and lesbian community and a guide of Patras. What is the reason of removal can anyone please answer?thank you
Apantisi: file mou einai aplo, den to exeis katalavei oti merikoi theoroun ayti ti selida idiotiki? Dystyxos i pleiopsifia ton patrinon einai toso m@l@kes pou den mporoun na katalavoun oti yparxei alitheia pera apo tin ypokeimeniki tous apopsi, ki etsi efarmozoun logokrisia kata ripas ......
:I have no idea who removed your links. Please consider WP:EL. I think that the links were way too many. So that we have to agree to include only few of them that are directly related to the city. Now if you have an opinion and wish to contribute to the article you are can do it. But please refrain from verbal attacks and get a username first. --Donnerstag 17:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaypatras link removal 

message: The Economy and Infrastructure sections give a worm like appearence to the article. This is a great and important city, I just wish the page looked better.  Maybe someone needs to make some sub article pages on the Economy and Infrastructure? As it is the page looks very unattractive and confused. Reaper7 16:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article too long and stretched 

message: Hey guys, I just added a pic of the Anglican Church, the one near KTEL.
I placed it in the section of the article I found more appropriate so not to disturb the normal view. If you think it should be added somewhere else or you might have a better pic, you're free to change it. Iaberis 16:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglican Church Picture Added 

message: I am gonna try delistify the infrastructure section. Also remove irrelevant things (tavernas, cafes)... ήμαρτον δηλαδή.
Energon 14:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infrastructure

message: We need something like that in the sports section:
Logo	Club                	Leagues                        	Venue                	Established
    	NK Dinamo Zagreb    	Croatian First Football League 	Maksimir Stadium     	1911
    	NK Zagreb           	Croatian First Football League 	Stadium Kranjčevićeva	1903
    	Hrvatski Dragovoljac	Croatian Second Football League	Stadion u Sigetu     	1975
Energon 20:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sports

message: I am searching from some free content (maps, photo, graphs). Please comment on the possible status of the links I provide:
*Old master plan of patras: 
http://hellas.teipir.gr/IMNPatron/Photos_html/oldmap.htm
^^I have done this already, the image belongs to the public domain, since Stamatis Voulgaris is dead long ago. 
Energon 16:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Content

message: Is there any article about the church? If not I think there should be done one... Iaberis (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Agios Andreas

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replies: text: Fixed. El Greco(talk) 20:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Button europeancapital en.jpg

message: The entry on Synora, Patras appears to be a bad machine translation of :el:Σύνορα Πάτρας. A new translation (and sources) would be most welcomed. - Best, Ev (talk) 18:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Synora, Patras

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message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Patras's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "census11":
From Elis (regional unit): Detailed census results 2011  
From Gjirokastër: 
From Aetolia-Acarnania: Detailed census results 2011  
From Western Macedonia: Detailed census results 2011 
From Thessaloniki: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Patras]] 

message: The name origin of the town Patras Patra is and can be trusted and assumed originate from the Greek word for father patéras πατέρας. 
Where in some translation or in local use they forget to write é and from original patéras πατέρας which means father meaning fathers city they then named it Patras Patra.
That is what you get when you forget about é in pronunciation and writing and from original meaning father as fathers city it become meaningless name Patra Patras. Markoshiva (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name origin