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Talk:William IX, Count of Poitiers

message: The first son of Henry II and Eleanor was The Count of Poitiers. His generational title would not have been IX but XI. Eleanor's father's was William X. Of course this William died too young to obtain a majority claim on this title. As reference I use Allison Weir who only referred to him as William Count of Poitiers.  I move that he be retitled William, Count of Poitiers. Markbeaulieu (talk) 03:07, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: ERROR IN TITLE

message: I've heard that there are more people in the family of William IX of Poitiers.  Please stop reverting my edits.  Here is the real ancestry:
:Yes, he had these ancestors (or at least most of them).  And you could add another generation and another one and another one, but to what end?  At its heart, Wikipedia is not intended to convey genealogical information, beyond what is necessary to understand the individual in question.  For some people, just the names of their parents suffices.  For others, several generations can be helpful to place them into the appropriate geo-political context.  However, with each generation the number of people grows in a logarithmic fashion, and the significance of each drops proportionally.  At some point, the information becomes of such low significance that it becomes nothing but trivia, beyond the purview of an encyclopedia.  Likewise, it is not uncommon to find a reliable source that names a person's grandparents, and maybe even notable great-grandparents, but you are not going to find reliable sources beyond that - my personal preference would be to pare down the pedigrees to 4 generation, not expand them to 6.  Again, the farther back you go, the more likely you are to include people of no notability whatsoever.  You learn nothing worth knowing about William IX by reading that his great-great-great-grandmother had the name of Suthen (about whom nothing but the name is known, and even that is of doubtful authenticity).  Or even that a great-great-great-grandfather was named Archimbaud Borel de Bueil.  Yet another reason for concern, the farther back you get from somebody important, the more dubious some of the genealogy becomes.  I don't think some of the material you added is even accurate.  Just for aesthetic reasons, when you add the sixth generation, you go from being able to see the whole pedigree in one screen-view to having to scroll up and down to see it all.  And I saved the best for last.  William IX died at the age of two and a half.  Other than his parents, and maybe his maternal grandfather (from whom he derived his title), nothing in the whole tree is anything but trivia.  He was not influenced in his life choices by his descents and his kinships, because the only life choices he made were when to suckle from his wet-nurse and which toy to pick up.  This biography shouldn't even have a pedigree because it tells us nothing useful about the infant subject. Agricolae (talk) 02:13, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not reverting anymore
Talk:Time standard

message: This article contains substantial amounts of text from http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/systime.html by Dr. Demetrios Matsakis, Director, Time Service Dept., dnm@orion.usno.navy.mil)
As the work of an employee of a U.S. Federal Government Agency employee for that agency, without any other copyright notice that I can find, this should be in the public domain.
Also from this USNO article on the definition of seconds and leap seconds, which is also in the public domain by the same reasoning. The Anome
:I looked at these but I've rewritten the article substantially so it doesn't have much overlap anymore. Added as sources. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:37, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matsakis content 

message: Added geoid link, and explanation why JD day starts at noon. -- Martin Vermeer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.136.69  (talk • contribs) 08:27, 7 February 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit 

message: What are the dynamical time scale and coordinate time? Paranoid 20:54, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think these are addressed well by their pages. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:37, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I don't know 117.98.97.113 (talk) 16:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard of time
Talk:Second

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Fourth (time). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 7#Fourth (time) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Cnilep (talk) 07:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fourth (time)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The commentary I added regarding the SI multiples of the second was not redundant, should be restored, and ideally be elaborated on by editors with more specialised knowledge about the subjects than me. Considering: 
that Wikipedia is designed to be broadly accessible,
that many readers are likely to have little or no familiarity with extremely large or small numbers or with thinking about timescales well outside the range of human experience,
that some readers will have been redirected to this page by clicking on links marked e.g. "zeptosecond" or "exasecond",
and that many of these examples are just plain cool and interesting, which is an important consideration in public education (if you don't think mine specifically were [I wasn't all that happy with the monarch reign lengths TBH] please suggest your own!),
it seems entirely appropriate to me that the article spend a paragraph or so giving a sense of what each of the SI multiples means in practice and why anyone would be interested in them, rather than simply state the technical definition. 
This would not be "redundant". At the time of making this post, the multiples section contains no information besides what could be inferred by applying the normal prefix system to this unit, plus the comment that the prefixes representing numbers greater than one are rarely used in practice, some hyperlinks I (originally) added, and the multiples hectosecond and up translated into more familiar units. And even here, a quantity like 31,700 years (much less 31.7 trillion years) will be a meaningless and abstract number to many readers and some context should be added.Ava Eva Thornton (talk) 03:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello.  Thanks for starting a discussion.  If you want to remove the table and replace it with a bulleted list, that would be fine with me.  That would remove the redundancy and provide a place for anecdotal facts.  Please do not create a subsection for every multiple.  It bloats the table of contents.  Subsections should be substantial and not one or two sentences. Constant314 (talk) 03:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The SI multiples section should not simply be a table. 

message: Second#Future redefinition and Atomic clock#Redefining the second are the same exact section. They need to be merged to one page. Nerdwizard (talk) 04:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Duplication is acceptable.  There is no policy against it.  However, you are welcome to suggest changes. Constant314 (talk) 04:41, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redefining the second
Talk:Nadar

message: NADAR the term means about a community of South India. No where in the internet this is being published, instead the information about a person named nadar is being highlighted.
Nadar a tamil speaking community in the southern parts of India is known for palmyra tapping, and business. Nadars (or) Sanars rich culture, tradition and life style is given in the website *http://www.nadarsangam.com/
Material moved from main article Dabbler 16:50, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Nadar (caste). --PFHLai 03:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nadar (community) material

message: NADAR was burried in Pere Lachaise cemetery at Montmartre - Paris
I have deleted the word / link  MONTMARTRE because the Pere Lachaise cimetery is NOT in Montmartre.
78.146.160.197 (talk) 16:32, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pere Lachaise cimetery. 

message: The portrait of Liszt is by another photographer, Louis Held.  I did not check other portraits.  Is there an explanation for this?
Ggpauly (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery 

message: :File:Séverine, debout, un poing sur la hanche - Nadar.jpg is a Carte-de-visite of Séverine by Nadar and has a logo for Nadar similar to the displayed signature. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 02:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Thanks!--Pete Tillman (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  File:Séverine, debout, un poing sur la hanche - Nadar.jpg
Talk:Vodka

message: … is incorrect. Short open [a] at the end like in other -a nouns. One source: https://svenska.se/tre/?sok=vodka&pz=2. 151.177.58.208 (talk) 19:40, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish pronunciation 

message: Please remove the italics from the term “freezer chilled” in the lead; there does not appear to be any reason per MOS:ITALICS to use it here. 151.132.206.250 (talk) 20:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Lightoil (talk) 09:56, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2023 

message: Finland being part of sweden and later part of russia belongs to the list of vodka countries. It was a common way for farms to make extra money by producing Viina (similar to brännvin) from potatoes. The finnish Market leader Finlandia Vodka came on 1970. Home production of Viina was actually forbidden on 1772 in Finland to save potatoes as food. And 1775 Swedish King Gustav III ordered state production to begin. I think finnish history is worthwhile a mention probably underneath the swedish history section as Finland was not an indipendent country at the time. 91.152.220.211 (talk) 15:37, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finnish vodka history missing 

message: the date given for his "grain liquor" comment is given in the text, and the reference, as 1800 - he was born in 1811, and the correct year is 1867. 88.98.93.176 (talk) 12:00, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  théophile gautier in etymology section 

message: To the "Boycott" section, the following ref can be added to show that a similar removal from the shelves of major supermarkets has happened in the United Kingdom:
https://drinksretailingnews.co.uk/retailers-remove-russian-standard-vodka-from-shelves/
155.190.13.13 (talk) 05:43, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to "Boycott" section
Wikipedia talk:Administrators

message: For your information, there are many WP:RFA2024 RFCs that recently closed that affect administrators. You may wish to examine these in more detail at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review#Phase I. A quick summary:
* Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)
* Proposal 13: Admin elections - hold one trial admin election with secret voting
* Proposal 14: Suffrage requirements - extended-confirmed required to !vote in RFCs
* Proposal 16: Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs
** Proposal 16c: Community recall process based on dewiki
* Proposal 17: Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
* Proposal 25: Require nominees to be extended confirmed
Today I edited this policy page to reflect proposals 14 and 25 since those look straightforward. Will hold off on editing in the other proposals for various reasons (only approved for trial, needs a follow-up RFC to flesh out details, etc.) –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFA2024 RFCs that affect administrators 

message: I have made series of WP:Bold changes to this policy page, aiming to clarify confusing sentences, cull repeated guidance, and increase concision, all while preserving guidance determined by community consensus. 
Clearly, I have failed, and as @Andrybak have disagreed with the edits, I wanted to start a discussion. Andrybak has given helpful feedback: from the edit summary, I realized I have deleted a policy shortcut template, which was not intended. Andrybak pointed out I changed some wording that was determined via consensus. While I believe to have preserved the intended meaning in such sentences, I should have made a effort to discuss beforehand. 
However, I believe most of my other copyedits were improvements, and I would like others to identify problematic aspects, so that copyedits identified to be improvements can remain intact. Ca talk to me! 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting
Talk:Stockholm

message: The figure for record winter temperatures (-21C dec & jan) in Stockholm don't seem right. Uppsala, which is only 45 minutes away, has -39C. Different figures are given on the weather service (SHMI)'s own webpage: https://web.archive.org/web/20120119025946/http://www.smhi.se/klimatdata/vintern-2010-2011-vinterns-lagsta-temperaturer-1.15196 Jakartasun (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stockholm temperatures 

message: The redirect Stockholm/G, Sweden has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Stockholm/G, Sweden]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Stockholm/S, Sweden has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Stockholm/S, Sweden]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The architecture section under culture is rather cluttered. I would like to fix it but as it needs a great deal of work, I figured I would check with others first. Please notify me if it collides with other intended edits. DaisyThePug (talk) 00:28, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Architecture Section
Talk:Metrication opposition

message: British Weights and Measures Association does not seem notable enough for its own article, but it might be worth a mention in this article. -- Beland (talk) 02:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems sensible to me, as to my mind it's not obvious that such a nonentity of an advocacy organization (which has "campaigned" unsuccessfully for some two decades to return the UK to the 19th century) is notable enough to merit having its own article. I can find barely any mentions of them outside their cringe-riddled, conspiracy-theory-peddling website. And this seems to be the only other page that would have any reason to mention a group with such low notability. Archon 2488 (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Klbrain (talk) 07:57, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from British Weights and Measures Association 

message: The section "Industry-specific product sizing" gives the irrationality of the A paper sizes as an example of an industry where metric units are awkward to use (the size of paper is not a round number). This is completely irrelevant, as measuring A-paper in inches would be worse, A4 is 210mm × 297mm which is 8.26772... × 11.6929.... The imperial system is not a benefit here. In fact, the ISO A paper is *defined* in mm: A paper has whole integer mm measure. The metric system is not to blame here, the reason behind this has to do with the irrationality of the golden ratio, and I've never seen this idea as an argument against metrication anywhere. It is irrelevant and should be removed. Saulpila (talk) 14:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the ISO paper A series relevant here? 

message: There's quite a lot of coverage at the Metrication in the United States#20th century how the 1970-s and early 1980s metrication attempt was stalled, and this video even quotes a NYT article from the time that mentions a "gala against metrics" conducted by an "anti-metric group" that featured literally "the Most Beautiful Foot contest". You can't make this stuff up, and I hope it could be added to the article somehow, even though I don't know how right now! Ain92 (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  More coverage of the opposition to the 1970s-1980s US metrication attempt?
Talk:A Severed Head

message: I don't know how to edit this, but the synopsis is so wildly off the mark that one wonders if the writer even read the book. The use of "Cupid's arrow" and "macho attributes" are absurd. Can someone who has read this book please change this?
As far as moving the spoiler warning farther down, please see my comments at Talk:The Lady Vanishes. KF 17 Sept 2002
That is a crap synopsis.
:agreed, at times it's more of a review or analysis than a summary, and it's not really that accurate. I added subheadings so that it might be easier to start changing the wording; some of the phrasing is peculiar eg "At roughly the same time Cupid's arrow hits Lynch-Gibbon again." Klauw 23:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Trixie Smith

message: http://news.discovery.com/human/worlds-first-rock-and-roll-song-identified.html
Sometime between that recording and the early 20s, according to Burns, the term "rock 'n' roll" started to leave the church and began to be used in blues and vaudeville music as a euphemism for sex. He cites as examples Trixie Smith's "My Man Rocks Me with One Steady Roll" in 1922, "Rock That Thing" by Lil' Johnson, and "Rock Me Mama" by Banjo Ikey Robinson. --Roujan (talk) 00:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Man Rocks Me with One Steady Roll 
Talk:Futhark

message: * Please provide feedback on terminology - I study this in another language and translating isn't trivial.
* Also, non-Swedish comparisons may be needed, all my data is Swedish.
* Specifically, the characters for the special (a) and (e) runes should have a better representation. (they are usually represented with a "reverse-cedill a" and a "e with a dot below" in print)
* A way to show the actual runes would be coolness, too
* heck, I don't even know if I hijacked "futhark" and turned it into "nordic futhark" in error... please correct if so ;-)
You may wish to take a look at Runic; I think some merging or at least cross-linking may be warranted. --Brion 22:08 Sep 17, 2002 (UTC)
:Yes, there's a lot more good information in Runic; but I'm not a sufficient scholar of the subject to do the merge myself.  --LDC
:Redirecting to Runic; and incorporating futhark there might work best? Or will that lump too much together? --OlofE
----
Is it the same alphabet as at Runic or are they actually different shapes? I've downloaded a font which makes sense of the Runic page: if I used that font to view the Futhark characters (which seems to work in WordPad) would it be correct? Phil 14:24, Dec 22, 2003 (UTC)
:Yes, this is the same alphabet as Runic.  The articles definitely want merging. Morwen 18:22, Dec 22, 2003 (UTC)
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Futhark is also the name of a programming language: https://futhark-lang.org/index.html Kaidono (talk) 12:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Talk:Charles Joseph Bonaparte

message: === French? ===
"Charles Joseph Bonaparte (/ˈboʊnəpɑːrt/; June 9, 1851 – June 28, 1921) was a French..."
Some sources say "Italian-American". For example: 
- "The Italian American Experience: An Encyclopedia" by Salvatore J. LaGumina, Salvatore Primeggia, Joseph A. Varacalli, Frank J. Cavaioli (Cavaioli is a former president of the American Italian Historical Association), Routledge 1999, page 334 
Also, you can read:
- "Italian American Crime Fighters A Brief Survey" by D.De Sanctis/E.Gaudioso, Osia page 4,6,18, www.osia.org
- "Charles Joseph Bonaparte" https://law.jrank.org/pages/4809/Bonaparte-Charles-Joseph.html
- https://www.italianhistorical.org/special.html
- "Italian Americans in Law Enforcement" by A.T.Romano, 2010, ‎Xlibris Corp, and so on.
Jack2008 (talk) 09:06, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Did you know nomination

message: "Charles Joseph Bonaparte (/ˈboʊnəpɑːrt/; June 9, 1851 – June 28, 1921) was a French..."
Some sources say "Italian-American". For example: 
- "The Italian American Experience: An Encyclopedia" by Salvatore J. LaGumina, Salvatore Primeggia, Joseph A. Varacalli, Frank J. Cavaioli (Cavaioli is a former president of the American Italian Historical Association), Routledge 1999, page 334 
Also, you can read:
- "Italian American Crime Fighters A Brief Survey" by D.De Sanctis/E.Gaudioso, Osia page 4,6,18, www.osia.org
- "Charles Joseph Bonaparte" https://law.jrank.org/pages/4809/Bonaparte-Charles-Joseph.html
- https://www.italianhistorical.org/special.html
- "Italian Americans in Law Enforcement" by A.T.Romano, 2010, ‎Xlibris Corp, and so on.
Jack2008 (talk) 09:06, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  French?
Talk:Susan May Williams

message: Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Apr 18 to Apr 24 2004, kept as consensus eas not reached.  Discussion:
* Susan May Williams: wife of an obscure decendent of Napoleon, not famous. - SimonP 18:27, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Cribcage 20:43, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD

message: I've unmerged this article as there are multiple mentions of Susan in reliable sources. Deb (talk) 16:13, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Unmerged
Talk:Elias delta coding

message: This doesn't look right...
:I don't think it is.  I think someone has switched around Elias Delta and Elias Gamma.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 19:21, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

message: I would like to suggest a section to discuss the strengths and utility of this coding. Chris2crawford (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  advantage?
Talk:Zapatista Army of National Liberation

message: Hello. Would you mind providing some sources to support your claim that the EZLN regards local cartels rather than the governments as their primary enemies? Regards, ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over current opponents 

message: Moving this section from Subcomandante Marcos as it's more related to EZLN relations than to Marcos himself. It would need better sourcing to be worked into this article and not be trivia, though.
Apart from cheering for local Liga MX side Chiapas F.C., which relocated to Querétaro in 2013, Subcomandante Marcos and the EZLN also support the Italian Serie A football club Inter Milan. The contact between EZLN and Inter, one of Italy's biggest and most famous clubs, began in 2004 when an EZLN commander contacted a delegate from Inter Campus, the club's charity organization which has funded sports, water, and health projects in Chiapas.
In 2005, Inter's president Massimo Moratti received an invitation from Subcomandante Marcos to have Inter play a football game against a team of Zapatistas with Diego Maradona as referee. Subcomandante Marcos asked Inter to bring the match ball because the Zapatistas' ones were punctured. Although the proposed spectacle never came to fruition, there has been continuing contact between Inter and the Zapatistas. Former captain Javier Zanetti has expressed sympathy for the Zapatista cause.
czar 21:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inter Milan
Talk:Bismuth

message: Many other elements have an NFPA 704 rating on their articles. However, bismuth does not. I was able to find ratings here and here online. However, they contradict each other for the blue part of the NFPA 704 rating. Additionally, I am not completely sure that either source is reliable. Can anyone please help? InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 18:49, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  An NFPA 704 rating for Bismuth