Talk:Sad Wings of Destiny

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message: The article states "The album was the only one by Judas Priest not to feature a title track up until 1980's British Steel (counting "Sinner" as the title track of 1977's Sin After Sin)."
So, why not count "Steeler" as the title track of British Steel then?  That would make "Point of Entry" their first album without a title track.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjm905 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and the line doesn't really add anything of worth to the article anyway. So I've taken it out. Prophaniti (talk) 13:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title track?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sad wings of destiny cover.jpg

message: The article states that the original track listing on the LP is starting on side 1 with "Prelude" and so on.
Well I have the LP (copyright 1975) in my possession and can say that this is not the case.
The track order is the same as on the CDs starting with "Victim of changes" on side 1. Only on the sleeve it starts with "Prelude" but not on the disc.
I found also a side which supports my notice:
http://www.discogs.com/Judas-Priest-Sad-Wings-Of-Destiny/release/385227
Can anyone confirm this or are there different versions of the original LP out?
If not the article should be modified accordingly. 78.48.130.7 (talk) 20:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Original LP Track listing

message: Does anyone have a Reliable Source on what equipment was used on this album? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 06:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equipment used? 

message: Guys. GUYS. Glenn wrote the song, not Rob, so why is Rob telling Popoff what the lyrics are about? At best, he's speculating. Should we remove that? Andreas George Skinner (talk) 18:52, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I tweaked the wording.  Here's what Halford actually said:  "As there are no places for children in our modern cities, there’s also no place for the old.  And it's simply frustrating for me to see how these old human beings are forced to live their lives.  From these feelings developed the song 'Epitaph'. Besides, the lyrics and texts still have strong importance for me.  The words have to mean something for me; they have to help me articulate my feelings. Just like Glenn can make you happy or sad with his guitar playing, it has to be exactly the same with the lyrics. The sound must express what is stated in their logical content." Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:30, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epitaph 

message: Over the next several years Judas Priest became a prominent example of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal.
This is not generally accepted. Although a source is given that confirms this statement, one is perfectly able to come up with plenty of examples that claim the complete opposite (I can do so if necessary). If no-one vetoes this I would just delete the sentence and leave the musical classification to the Judas Priest-article.
S. Hauke (talk) 16:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judas Priest NWoBHM? 

message: According to this, the Complete Albums box set marked the first time the band authorized the release of Sad Wings on CD, and the track listing there is indeed the correct one because the sides really were mistakenly reversed when the album was first released.  The first part appears to be true, and that certainly does lend a lot of weight to the idea that that track listing is the correct one after all. I can't find an RS for it, though, so the best thing to do would be, if possible, to contact someone close to the band (or Sony) and see if we can get confirmation that that is indeed the case. I looked around on the band's website, but I couldn't find a way to get in touch with anyone close to them, and the same is true for Sony, who'd probably be much less willing to help us out anyway. Does anyone know how to get in touch with someone close to the band? Esszet (talk) 20:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Contacting Sony or anyone else won't help us when we don't have a published RS.  I'm surprised this hasn't come up in a bio or an interview somewhere.  Just listening to the album makes it obvious which side was meant to be Side A. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking it might be acceptable because it can easily be replicated (i.e. someone else can ask them the same question the same way), but I might have found an answer. Although the booklet that comes with the Complete Albums box (viewable in full here) doesn't say anything about it, there's something written in the lower right-hand corner on the back cover of the version of the album included in the box set, and it doesn't appear to be on other releases. Can someone with the box set see what it says? Esszet (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, it appears to be the same thing as the one here, and it just says something about playing stereo records on mono turntables or something like that. Since on second thought contacting the band probably wouldn't be good enough to be a source on here, I guess we're stuck for now. Esszet (talk) 12:28, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track listing 

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message: I recently deleted the content found in the "Songs" subsection of the article, and I was reverted. This material, which appears to be personal analysis from some guy's book, is not at all needed in the article, and should not be said in Wiki-voice as fact. It is certainly the first article I have come across that features an in-depth analysis of each song's content and style in addition to a track list. Essentially, this "Songs" sub-section is providing the helpful function of listing the songs on the album with a bunch of flowery language thrown in. I don't need to know if a particular song is a chugging, riff-heavy rocker or A forward-looking, riff-heavy rocker or A quiet track with piano backing and Queen-like layered vocals or a heavy rocker with a complex riff. As I stated in my original comment, this is not Pitchfork. This is not the space for "music journalism" or song analysis. It should be removed, and whoever is responsible for it should start their own music blog. KidAd (talk) 06:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the ping. And thanks for leaving a message here rather than reverting, good form. The major content contributor was , whose userpage now shows a retired banner. Let's see if we get any response to the ping before carrying out anything drastic. Thanks — sparklism  hey! 09:51, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: (edit conflict) I don't think I've touched this article (are you getting confused with Curly "JFK" Turkey who has done a lot of rock / metal GAs and FAs?) Anyway, from a cursory look, the song information looks like it's cited mostly to Martin Popoff's source. I would recommend instead of having an individual section for each song, to keep the section but trim it down to maybe two paragraphs - one for each side. While I'm here, I can't help thinking that the images are off-topic and excuses to put something in for a GA - in particular, the appearance of an early 1970s picture of Joan Baez is rather tenuous. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes I did get confused, and reverted myself. Sorry if I woke you, but thanks for your input! — sparklism  hey! 10:03, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your help! KidAd (talk) 18:35, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , it doesn't look like we will get a response from  at this point. What do you think to Ritchie333's suggestions above? Thanks. — sparklism  hey! 07:09, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think this fix is appropriate. KidAd (talk) 20:36, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of "Songs" Section