Talk:Carl Tanzler

message: === Carl ===
A little too much is being made of his name "changes". His family mostlikely hailed from the town of Cosel in Silesia, hence the "von Cosel". You seem to be implying that he was always planning on doing something untoward since he used a different name on his immigration documents. In fact, the discrepancy between his immigration documents and his birth certificate is not unique. Many Germans anglicized their names in a similar way.   Pbasu 18:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am just being methodical, and want to make sure anyone searching for him under another name will find him here. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 23:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: A little too much is being made of his name "changes". His family mostlikely hailed from the town of Cosel in Silesia, hence the "von Cosel". You seem to be implying that he was always planning on doing something untoward since he used a different name on his immigration documents. In fact, the discrepancy between his immigration documents and his birth certificate is not unique. Many Germans anglicized their names in a similar way.   Pbasu 18:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am just being methodical, and want to make sure anyone searching for him under another name will find him here. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 23:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carl 

message: Speaking of names, someone changed Elena's last name to "de Hoyos" and referred to her as "Helen" (the English variant of Elena).  All references I have reviewed refer to Elena as Elena Hoyos (and/or Mesa, her husband's name).  If all agree, I think we should change it back to Hoyos (unless the person that made the edit can support it). Sundevilesq 18:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elena 

message: I really don't think the fact that no newspapers reported the guy having sex with the effigy via a tube that acted as a vagina in 1940 is clear evidence against it having happened.  I don't think that sort of thing would pass the editor's decency restrictions in most newspapers TODAY, never mind in 1940.
:I am sure it would have come out at the trial in explicit detail, and the newspapers would have used the euphemisms of the time to describe it. I am skeptical of the modern anecdote without any paper trail. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 21:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Necrophilia allegation

message: Intersting story, but there's a couple of things I'd like to have added to the article if knowledgable editors will oblige. When Carl "left his family behind" in 1927, did he abandon them? Divorce? The timeline has Doris and Carl recorded as living together in the 1930 census. Was Doris aware of Carl's passion for Elena? Also, Carl wrote an autobigraphy. How did he justify his actions? Can someone with access to the book add a passage in Carl's own words? How long and how well did Carl know Elena before she died? Her family seems to have trusted him. Cheers!  - ntennis 06:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Doris, Elena and Carl

message: This article needs references with footnotes.  I will attempt to add a few myself (mainly from Undying Love and Von Cosel) when I get a chance.Sundevilesq 18:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References Needed

message: It looks like the funeral notices that I added to wikisource were deleted. They had the references we are looking for. I think someone has confused the legal standing of a funeral notice as a paid advertisement; and an obituary, which has the legal status of a copyrighted biography.
:Doris Tanzler's obituary is still in the article (in the "See Also" section).  Do you have Carl's?  His obituary would make a great addition (and source) as it is quoted in the "Later Life and Death" section.Sundevilesq 17:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikisource

message: Cant you just put multiple numbers next to each of the three references, each time you refer to one of the three books. Its a lot of duplication for the three sources.
:I agree.  I tried to get it to repeat within the three book references (like the HBO Autopsy reference), but couldn't get it to work.  If anyone else knows how to fix it, please do! Sundevilesq 04:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  repeated references 

message: The ancestor that purportedly revealed Tanzler's true love in youthful visions was apparently some German noblewoman.  She has a page on Wikipedia-Germany, but it doesn't translate into English (only Polish).  Apparently, she was from the Dresden area, and I would bet Tanzler just copped her name when he left Germany and is of no relation (just my opinion).  In any event, if anyone knows how to link her name to the German Wikipage, I think that would be helpful (as would an English translation and new page).Sundevilesq 01:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anna Constantia Gräfin von Cosel 

message: It's well written, well referenced, covers the entirety of the subject matter, offers a neutral POV and has well cited and subject appropriate images. Congrats! Nja247 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, when I opened this talk page after seeing the references I was thinking that it could be GA.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 07:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination approved

message: I'm not sure if those photos are of hulos' corpse, i think thats the effigy he made but the caption reads otherwise. I may well be wrong but heres the source that caused me to doubt the photos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyfvf5bc0Vo
i think one of you wiki weirdos should investigate.
Also, how should i lube a bluetack anus?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.217.155 (talk) 00:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Photos & Caption 

message: I have added a fair-use rationale to the lead image. The other images also need similar rationales or they may be deleted. Tim Vickers 19:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Then somebody do the world a favour and invoke that rule to delete that horrid shite.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.195.186.14 (talk) 13:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair-use images

message: The poem/song referred to as being "loosely based on the Tanzler incident" could not have been. The poet and creator of the poem, Julio Florez Roa, died in 1923. That is a full seventeen years before Tanzler was discovered.Lemonwood (talk) 03:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boda Negra 

message: Although it has been commonly and erroneously asserted that he was a radiologist, he was in fact a radiologic technologist. A radiologist is a medical doctor who completes 4 years of premedical undergraduate college coursework, 4 years of medical school, and several years of postgraduate medical residency training the medical specialty of radiology.
A radiologic technologist is a technician who shoots X-rays of patients that are ordered by doctors. That is what Carl Tanzler was. Some references manage to get it right.
The notion that anyone can "take a job as a radiologist" (almost on a whim) as stated in this Wikipedia entry is ludicrous. It would be tantamount to a surgical tech being credited with "taking a job as a brain surgeon" as a goof. "Bagging groceries was getting mundane, so one day I took a job as a pediatric neurosurgeon, you know, for a change of pace."
If Carl Tanzler was indeed a radiologist as some control-freak, hyper-vigilant, embarrassingly misinformed Wiki editors seem determined on maintaining, the were is the record of his medical training, degree, and radiology board certification?
This is just another example of what is so wrong with Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.165.207 (talk) 05:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carl Tanzler was not a radiologist 

message: Am I the only one who happens to notice that ever since the image link was sourced from flickr the colours are now negative/inverted? Src: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carl_Tanzler_%281940%29.jpg 70.127.215.76 (talk) 17:44, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative/Inverted Photo? Seems the source hoodwinked you. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Some "new" and specific details about this story have recently come to the fore, from a podcast interview with David Sloan. I have added these details to the article, and have scans of the magazine articles where these details originated. While I have cited them in the article as such, I would be happy to upload the relevant scanned excerpts if the need arises. PhantomCuban (talk) 00:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Citations is what we need, not scans. I see that you have provided the former. Peaceray (talk) 00:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "New" Evidence 

message: http://www.hbo.com/autopsy/episode/episode_6_the_strange_obsession_of_dr_carl_von_cosel.html
this link no longer works, the content appears to have been removed. Cat-with-the-'tism (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  dead link