Talk:Hofstad Network

message: I edited out the ages of the Hofstad Network members, since they cannot be correct anymore. The known years of birth I added. Please add if you know the years.--Dengo 11:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB, Not Age 

message: I noticed the Dutch entry http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadgroep is disputed. The English entry does not reflect this. Firstly the actual existence of this group is a subject of debate. As far as we know now, the Hofstad Network likely is not an organisation, but a group of individuals denominated as an organisation by the AIVD. Whether this is an actual organisation, and whether their intentions are terrorist, is still being investigated. Secondly, although Mohammed B. has committed the murder of Theo van Gogh and has been convicted for it, none of those mentioned have yet been convicted for terrorist activities (Dec 22 2005 a fourth suspect was acquitted). I don't mean to convey a political message, but calling the Hofstad Network an islamist terrorist organisation probably is factually incorrect except for the "islamist" bit. (Didn't edit the page, just wanted to leave this comment)
: I see your point, but it is my view that from the article as a whole it becomes quite clear that almost everything stated in the article are merely suspicions of the public prosecutor and the AIVD. In fact, the individual members of the group are - among other charges - suspected of belonging to a terrorist organisation. I think for now it will suffice to add a small word ('alleged' or 'suspected') to make the situation more clear from the first line of the article. I'd say we wait for the judge's verdict before we completely strike the whole notion. comment: Having said all that, the dutch wikipedian who added the 'disputed' line did so because there apparently is confusion as to the number of members being either 14 or 16, NOT because the Hofstad Network might not be an organisation after all.--Dengo 18:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organisation Disputed 

message: Hofstad means, loose translated, parliament city.
'Stad' means city, that's correct
But 'hof' means 'court' – both in the sense 'garden' as in the sense 'court of law'. The only link between 'hof' and 'parliament' is that the political centre of the Netherlands, including the Tweede Kamer (part of Parliament) is located at 'Binnenhof', literally 'Inner Court'. The translation 'parliament city' is very loose. — Adhemar 193.178.209.214 12:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's not 'very loose', it's utter nonsense. The nickname 'Hofstad' for The Hague comes from the fact that the duke of Holland had his court (Hof) there. (This is also the reason all ministries and parliament are in The Hague, but that's beside the point) I must have missed the moment this edit was made, but I am removing it right now.--Dengo 18:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation 

message: I reverted this article back to 2008, due to a lot of minor vandalism, mixed in with good edits.  It was too difficult to separate the good from the bad.  This article does need additional sources and citations also.  Take Care... Dinkytown talk 00:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting Vandalism... 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 25 who/what/when/citations needed and yet this is still up and running for years ? This is not worthy of Wikipedia  RhoSevenOh (talk) 20:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Either verify or shut down this page