Talk:Martial industrial

message: the origins part is soooo not npov atm, and the description of the music needs to be put at the put and given it's own heading. --MilkMiruku 08:54, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we've taken care of this, thank you for your edits and please continue. --Bloodofox 04:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: ;Soundsamples
*Elegy
*Breach Birth
*Look There: Temper 1985
*Look There: Trinity 1987
It's not really a new style... --Menorrhea 03:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same style, just an example of it. Most bands related to New European Recordings at the time had a 'martial' sound. :bloodofox: 07:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In The Nursery 

message: It was nice to indicate de political views (confirmed) of the bands inte the See Also - Artists.
tnks --201.14.158.6 17:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political views 

message: I don't think the list of artist external links makes much sense on this page.  We should have a list of wikilinks to artists' Wikipedia articles, and then external links to their webpages should go there.  Would anyone object to me removing this list, and moving the artists' names into the list of artist wikilinks? --Delirium 01:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this would be a good move - no objections. :bloodofox: 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  artist external links 

message: I think Death in June should be removed from the artist list. They aren't really martial and tilt to the far end of neo-folk. Also, they've never claimed to be martial, much less industrial of any sort. Ideas? Feelings?
:From the very beginning of the Death In June discography into the modern era of Death In June the group/Douglas P have used very heavy martial percussion and militant imagery live and on record. Not only that, Death In June have been a massive influence on the genre not only musically but also from the early acts of NER Douglas P signed to the artists Pearce has collaborated with to the majority of the artists Death In June have shared the stage with. What else can you call albums such as "Take Care And Control," "Operation Hummingbird" and "the Wall of Sacrifice"? Practically every Death In June album has at least a few tracks that would fit perfectly into this genre. :bloodofox: 00:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Aren't the albums you mentioned those that are collaborations with Der Blutharsch, which is a martial band? I'd say the 'original' sound of death in june is more post-punk and folk/neo-folk (obviously) / 80.216.158.220 16:35, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Death In June have always had a large amount of martial instrumentation, even from the early days. Early Death In June could have been described as a martial Joy Division - uniforms, heavy military drumming, live trumpets. Of the albums I've mentioned, two of them are Der Blutharsch collaborations and the other is an album by Death In June that was highly influential to Albin Julius. While Death In June is probably best known for spawning neofolk, the other side of the coin is the heavy martial aspect. :bloodofox: 23:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Death In June

message: Wouldn't the "orchestral" period of Test Department fit in as well? Between about 1985 and 1991 they made several albums with sampled (and some real) marching drums, orchestral elements and such. Though they aren't WW2 themed (neither are Puissance) I'd call it martial music (or martial industrial, which some seems to prefer). This could also add a bit to the political views part as Test Department where very political AND left-wing and instead of using Third Reich imagery they used soviet constructivism (is that a word?) artwork and such.
:Yes, Test Dept should very well be on this list. :bloodofox: 23:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Test Department

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Autopsia cd.gif

message: I think Neoclassical Darkwave is what the article is really refering to. Unless someone can clarify that it is supposed to be Neoclassicism and not Neoclassical Darkwave I will edit it as such.JanderVK (talk) 09:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neoclassicism vs Neoclassical Darkwave

message: The entire external links section is inappropriate.  Not only are the links basically just advertisements, but they are almost all for languages other than English.  If no one raises an objection within the next week, I'm removing probably the whole section. <B>Torchiest</B> (talk | contribs) 22:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: While I absolutely see the value in this, and indeed would include many of the same in a similar list of my own, I'm pointing out that, at least with no sources cited, it stands as entirely subjective and, further, that it be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaggardBastard (talk • contribs) 04:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  20 Landmark Albums 

message: People seem to just be making up their own terms and starting articles. This made up article needs to be deleted as soon as possible. I think that most most of these people would be extremely annoyed that all a 16 year old got from their music was that it had military themes. Also many of these bands it was a small aspect of their sound as their music evolved. For example Test Dept in the mid 90`s was doing almost full on dance type music.Starbwoy (talk) 03:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: An aspect is an aspect. Martial music is a real thing. And emulating it under an industrial pop banner is a real thing too. It's not a taxonomy of artists, it's a taxonomy of musical pieces. --184.20.10.253 (talk) 15:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article needs to be Deleted