Talk:Red Hot Chili Peppers/Archive 2

message: i see alot of song covers being listed, but ive never heard about these covers. take for example the public enemy cover. where is it from? i assume alot of them are live, but i really dont know
: If they're just songs that they performed live once, I would question them being listed at all.  You may as well credit them with covering "Happy Birthday" or "Auld Lang Syne" at that point... should be cited... there's a whole lot of content on this page that's without any sort of citation. Xinit 22:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, like all of it . maxcap 21:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah... there's at least a couple articles hiding in there that could be split off.  Part of me wonders about how much of it is plaigarism too.... Xinit 22:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed on both points, I did an edit that kept being reverted  if you care to take a look and share your thoughts. I like your intro bettermaxcap 22:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm tempted to get heavy-handed on the current revision, and remove entire sections like the "Sound philosophy" section and others... The Covers list is another that would go away... possibly to its own article?  Also, the external links section's getting lame. I think I'll have to think about this for a while before I start slashing. Xinit 22:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: covers

message: Does anyone know why they called the first disc Jupiter and the second disc Mars? It would be a real help if the origins were posted on the website. thx
Wikipedia Stubmechanic 01:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: for me allmusic list for similar/influenced is a bit wrong..for me was better the last.
zagozagozago
I like the idea from an exploratory point of view, but it's still subjective. It's probably better to let the people at All Music Guide be subjective. maxcap 19:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allmusic link for similar artists 

message: i put album data in chart in US UK and Germany...maybe is not the better page...for the format of the page.
for you is better put it in "red hot chili peppers discography" page??
zagozagozago 21:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to keep everything together, yes, it should be on the Discography page.  WesleyDodds 19:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart 

message: "Dani California" = Plagirised (Don't know if that's spelt right) Version of "Mary-Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty.
There is a sound file somewhere on Totse.com that shows you this.  It talks about how there is the same chord progressions and even sounds the same.  Also, the drum beats match up when they are mixed side-by-side.
RCHP have now lost my respect.  J
Yeah I heard about this and they are almost identical, shouldn't something about this be included in the article? Thunder Cat 09:19, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Last I check, it's mentioned on the Dani California page, so no worries. Eiffelle 23:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tom Petty - Red Hot Chilli Peppers 

message: Is it worth mentioning that Andy Gill was the guitarist in Gang of Four, and that Entertainment! was a record that a record Flea cited as one of the biggest influences of the groups early sound? (Sergelapelle 22:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andy Gill 

message: The TV & Film section is getting a bit out of control.  I appreciate the latest additions, but this is growing beyond the scope of the band... Appearances by a member by themselves should be listed on that individual's article, while appearances by the BAND should remain here. Flea in a move; on his page.  The band on Simpsons; here. 
I'll be taking the machete to that section later in the day, so speak now... Xinit 18:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV & Film 

message: We've got to come to some sort of agreement on where to draw the line. Some of the newer additions, while good, are better suited to the individual album pages. The more stuff that gets added just invites people to add more trivial stuff. maxcap 12:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much information (in general)

message: This will never be a good article; too many people are wanting to control it, and now it's filled with pointless information. No it is not getting better, it is getting progressively worse and it is the worst band article of any I have seen on Wikipedia. This is an encylopedia; we're trying to make this an article that the average person that is ignorant to the Red Hot Chili Peppers as a whole would actually be able to learn from and gather from. I'll be willing to work with anyone to create a cohesive and much cleaner rewrite of the entire Red Hot Chili Peppers article. -- Parallel Universe
: I'm not seeing any fight for control outside of the EL issues. Look at the article as it stood even a month ago and you'll see that it is better; trivia has been removed, much POV has been excised, and structure has been tightened.  What are the immediate issues you see with the article as it stands, or are you suggesting a full rewrite? --Xinit 21:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Good Article" Candidate