Talk:George Meany

message: I haven't tackled this article, because I favor wholesale revisions over incremental changes, but it needs work. In addition to fleshing out the Lovestone/AIFLD discussion, which needs more detail, the article also needs to address the AFL-CIO's position within the Democratic Party during his tenure, its stance on civil rights and affirmative action, the anti-corruption campaign and organizational issues within the AFL-CIO. The reference to UE and the RWDSU seems out of place too; that's CIO history, from a few years before Meany succeeded Green, and not worth including in this article. Italo Svevo 04:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd temporarily disagree that events prior to 1952 are outside the scope of a Meany biography. The CIO stuff is out of place, sure.  But William Green's health was so poor in the last four or five years of his life that Green had turned day-to-day operation of the AFL over to Meany. From what I can ascertain from a surface reading of just a few sources, Meany's presidency really began a half-decade prior to his actual presidency. - Tim1965 22:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs work

message: Kiefer Wolfowitz, I plan to reduce the length of the lead.  I am not aware that the AFL was ever a part of the World Federation of Trade Unions.  I thought they had boycotted it from its founding.  Am I wrong? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have been wrong. Continue flying your eagle course!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: This is cited properly, but is it really worth putting in a short biography of Meany?
"Mike Quill of the Transport Workers Union of America also fought the merger, saying that it amounted to a capitulation to the "racism, racketeering and raiding" of the AFL.
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Why not quote other Communists, recently former Communists, and Trotskyists? Much as I like the Transit Workers of NYC, this is hardly a national labor leader.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Quill broke with the Communist Party in 1948, well before the AFL-CIO merger. The TWU by the 1940s was clearly a national union affiliate of the CIO, representing transit workers in many cities other than New York. I chose to quote Quill because he was the president of TWU for many years, and a close ally of New York mayor Robert F. Wagner, Jr. at the time of the merger. I don't think he can be so easily dismissed. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:14, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Quill 

message: This article appears to me very close to ready for GA--close enough that you could go ahead and nominate it right now. The sourcing and writing both look good and this seems likely to cover the "main aspects".
A few suggestions:
*Ideally, the lead should touch on each section of the article. I'm also not sure I see a citation for "reputation for personal integrity" later on in the body, but I may have missed it--I'm working very quickly. (Perhaps it can be inferred by the Hoffa conflict?)
*Try to reduce the number of very short sections and one-paragraph sentences per WP:LAYOUT. (part of criterion 1b)
*"New Politics" needs DAB
*The bare URL for ref 29 should be filled out. Technically, a bare URL isn't a problem for GA status, but if it goes dead and has no other information, it's no longer considered verifiable, and GA status could be revoked.
Thanks for your work on this important figure! -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preliminary thoughts on GA potential 

message: Maybe this is not the best place to ask this, but I recall a political cartoon of Nixon and McGovern playing chess.  Meany had just flipped over the board throwing pieces everywhere.  This came out right after meany had announced he was not supporting either candidate.  I have been looking for this and thought it might be a nice addition to the article.   Anyone have suggestions where to find it?  Jokem (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  1972 Presidential election 

message: Noting here the changes I made to the article, mainly to add in some of the biographical and other sources, plus some more 'legacy' material. Pinging User:Cullen328, as the following would help take the article forward further:
*Meany, George by David Brody from American National Biography
*Joseph C. Goulden, Meany: The Unchallenged Strong Man of American Labor (1972)
*Archie Robinson, George Meany and His Times (1981)
*Philip Taft, The AFL from the Death of Gompers to the Merger (1959)
*Robert H. Zieger, American Workers, American Unions, 1920-1985 (1986)
The latter four are part of the bibliography recommended by Brody. Carcharoth (talk) 20:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for your work to improve this article, . Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:13, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. I managed to read the article several times and not see this error, which someone else was kind enough to point out to me. Amazing how easy it is to miss things like that (it was only present from 6 July). Carcharoth (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving this article further 

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message: I recall a political cartoon appearing about the time Meany announced he would not support Nixon or McGovern.  Caricatures of Nixon and McGovern were sitting opposite each other with a chessboard between them.  Shows Meany walking away confidently with the chessboard behind him, flipped over.  I thought that might be a useful addition to the article, but I cannot find it anywhere.  I wonder if someone here has better resources?  Jokem (talk) 04:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: , not only would you need to find this cartoon, but it must also be either freely licensed under an acceptable Creative Commons license, or it must be in the public domain. Plus, there must be independnt commentary about the cartoon. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 05:03, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already tried to find this with no luck.  I was hoping someone here might have a clue.  Jokem (talk) 03:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cartoon