Talk:Order of St Patrick

message: I hate to sound like a dumb American, but it took me a bit to figure out why the Order has not received any new members. I admit freely this stems from most Americans having a very tenuous grasp on how the Commonwealth works and how Royalty ties in.  I am not asking for a complete dumbing down to accommodate our ignorance, but maybe a quick reference in the opening paragraph like (and sorry in advance for the poor quality, uneducated example):
"The regular creation of knighthoods of St Patrick lasted until 1922, when most of Ireland became independent as the Irish Free State thus mandating further separation from the British Crown.
Such an explanation is just an audience thing and may not be in the best interests of the article as a whole to include.  
Overall, a very interesting and well written article!  I will be checking out the other links to see if I can further my education on the subject.
Thank you for reading my sadly under- educated thoughts! Thepearl 15:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To begin with the Republic of Ireland is not in the Commonwealth see  Termination of membership.  --62.6.139.11 16:13, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common knowledge in the Commonwealth? 

message: Attempting to take the two sections above as one (i am not an expert but can perhaps offer an explaination); the Constitution of the Irish Free State, Article 5, states;
:No title of honour in respect of any services rendered in or in relation to the Irish Free State (Saorstát Eireann) may be conferred on any citizen of the Irish Free State (Saorstát Eireann) except with the approval or upon the advice of the Executive Council of the State.
This was the basic law of the state from 1922 to 1937 and the Constitution of Ireland essentially restated it in similar terms in 1937. Essentially since 1922 it has always being the policy (of the Irish government and law) that an Irish citizen may not recieve a title of honour from the state, and may only recieve a title of honour from another country with the prior approval of the government. The order largely when into abeyance in 1922. The Encyclopaedia of Ireland states that in 1927 the Attorney-General of the Irish Free State determined that the order was purely a matter for the Irish government to determine entry to, as an Irish order, and whilst the British government did not agree with this determination no success at reviving it occured after. Djegan 20:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: titles of honour

message: This wave of recent vandalism makes it tempting to even step things up to protect for the day.  --  Zanimum 19:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the meeting its maker vandalism slipping by the semi protect? New accounts can't edit with semi-protect. It is usually discouraged to fully protected a featured page because the page receives a lot of improvement during its time on the Main Page.--Adam (talk) 20:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Meet it's maker" 

message: The Netherlands and Luxemburg share an order of knighthood! The Order of the Golden Lion of Nassau has since 1905 been the senior order of merit in Luxemburg and a house-order in the Netherlands.
It has two grand-masters. It shows that sharing an order is possible! Will the Order of St. Patrick be restored as a shared decoration ? I hope so. Robert Prummel 18:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A shared order of knighthood. 

message: In the first illustration it is suggested that the ribbin is violet! But it was not, it was sky blue.
It is an excellent article but I nominate this single picture for removal.
Robert Prummel 02:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I'm not mistaken, although the statutes refer to 'celestial blue' or sky blue the precise shade of blue varied over the years (the same is true for the Order of the Garter). This can in fact be seen from different shades of blue shown in the images in the article. Also the colour of the images on your screen depends on the settings of your monitor - to me the ribbon in the first image looks blue. I suppose there is also the issue of whether the colour of the ink used has faded over time - that first image is from a book which is 150 years old. I think the image is fine to stay where it is. I've changed the caption slightlyDr pda 16:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why this wrong colour of the ribbon? I nominate this single picture for removal 

message: In 1780 a Dublin drinking club was set up using the same name; I can't say how long it lasted, for several decades anyway. Its members were mostly liberal lawyers. Its most eminent member was John Philpot Curran.Red Hurley 21:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The other Order of St. P

message: According to Edward VIII of the United Kingdom#Honours:
:Edward lost almost all of his British honours upon accession, because he became sovereign of most of them. When he was no longer sovereign, his brother reinstated his pre-accession honours.
This implies that his KP merged into the crown in January 1936 and had to be created anew after he abdicated - was this the case or did it survive intact? Timrollpickering (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last creation - Edward or Albert? 

message: How would the motto "Quis Separabit" be expressed in Irish?  I've seen it rendered in english by (1) 'Who would separate (us)' [reference to scripture] and 'United we Stand' [regimental].  My question speaks to the former.Robplatou1 (talk) 23:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  the motto in Irish Gaelic 

message: Hi, I am concerned that this article no longer meets the feature article criteria. I have outlined some of my concerns below:
*There are many sentences, and whole paragraphs, that are not cited. I have marked some of them with citation needed templates.
*There are too many images in the article, and it is causing SANDWICH.
*I do not believe the Flags of the World source is a high quality citation, and ref 15 needs to be formatted
Is anyone interested in bringing this article to FA standards? Z1720 (talk) 16:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi  you have made significant edits to this article since I posted my concerns above. Are you interested in bringing this article to FA status? If not, I'll nominate it for FAR later this week. Z1720 (talk) 15:20, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible to do the topic justice without access to Galloway's book, and there are no copies locally. DrKay (talk) 16:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I also can't find a copy online or through my local library. If someone reading this has a copy, please post below. Z1720 (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Formatted ref 15 (now 16) and did some minor citevar. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA concerns