Talk:John Gorton

message: Perhaps there are Aussies here who can add a bit about John Gorton's bloodyminded determination during the fixing of the price for Bass Strait oil/gas. Gorton was vilified after talking with the oil companies and setting a fixed price for five years ($1.06 a barrell?) which everyone thought was in the oil companies favour (but sure proved not to be). Anyone? Moriori 02:47, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 I did not Vandalise Trivia  I got this information from a reliable source the National Archives Check if you like send me an e-mail and i will give the URL
--Bob 02:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anyone know about the oil price shenanigans?

message: It is absolutely wrong that the Liberal Party has never held office without National/Country Party support. In 1935, the Lyons govt was able to govern in its own right. similary, in 1977, the Fraser government had an absolute majority of seats, adn the Howard Government has also held office without National Party support. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.69.191.16 (talk) 12:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1935 it wasn't the Liberal Party - it was the UAP. In the case of Fraser and Howard they may have won an outright majority for the Liberals but if the County/National Party was fighting the election already in coalition with them and formed a coalition government then the Liberals were not going it alone. Timrollpickering 15:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Moreover, the Lyons-Menzies government was a debacle, and the UAP had to end up not only relying on the Country Party, but actually handing them the Prime Ministership. Also, the Nationals had ministerial positions under Fraser and Howard. If either man had tried to dispense with National Party support they would have followed Lyons and Menzies Mark I from hero to zero very quickly.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Liberals and the Coalition

message: Does anyone else notice that Gorton bares a striking resmeblance to a movie villain? I cant put my finger on whom, but possibly someone from the Dick Tracy movie or something along those lines.Jason McConnell-Leech 13:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The joker from batman? Timeshift 18:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Look-Alike

message: Contrary to a source provided on the website, John Gorton using the postnominals "PC" is a violation of honours protocol as only peers use the postnominals to set themselves apart because as peers they already use the title "The right honourable". Members of the privy council who are not peers aka "commoners" can only use the prefix "the right honourable".
for more information please refer to: Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council under sub-heading "Rights and priviledges of members"
--202.14.81.49 (talk) 06:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.apmc.oph.gov.au/lib/docs/19%20Gorton%20Web.pdf  has PC and is a reliable source. Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council can't be used for a reason to remove it. Bidgee (talk) 06:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PC postnominals 

message: There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages. 
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion. 
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: In Final years in parliament -
 "In 1972, businessman David Hains commissioned a series of polls in marginal electorates that showed the Coalition would significantly increase its vote if Gorton mounted a successful comeback; for instance, polling in the Division of Henty found that his return would add eight points to the Liberal vote. "
I attempted to write a follow-up to this but it got reverted by MaterialScientist with an unfair warning from him.
That passage states the results  of the Hains polling which saw voting in Henty would have a difference if Gorton were restored as Prime Minister.
This then didn't get a follow-up of what was the outcome in Henty with McMahon still Prime Minister at the 1972 election.
The outcome in Henty is that the Liberals narrowly retained the seat despite a huge swing to the ALP. 
This is the fact I wanted to emphasise.
Hains made a particular point with Henty as he try to make his case for Gorton to be restored as Prime Minister.
The election results in Henty speaks for themselves and the reader should be given the opportunity to make their own assessments of these results based on the Hains polling.
I was merely establishing a follow-up to the Hains polling that was placed in this article by someone else.49.3.72.79 (talk) 12:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think Materialscientist's objection was to the content of your edit, it's more the fact that you didn't provide a source. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 14:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hains polling on Henty 

message: It is already well known that Gorton was still a Senator when he was sworn in as Prime Minister but the question I like to ask is whether he actually sat in the Senate as Prime Minister between his swearing in as Prime Minister on January 10 1968 and his resignation from the Senate on February 1 to successfully contest the House of Representatives seat of Higgins.
I am thinking that he probably didn't as January didn't seem to be the time of year in which Parliament was in session.
Whether he sat in the Senate as Prime Minister or not this very fact should be included in the article to emphasise the position he was in, in having to resign from the Senate to transfer to the House of Representatives due to the convention of the Prime Minister being a member of the lower house. 49.3.72.79 (talk) 11:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did he sit in the Senate as Prime Minister?