Talk:Gusle

message: Hi. 
I did some edits basically stylistic ones and some inclusion of terminology regarding epic and folk instruments.
I would like to do more but do not want to step on anyones toes.
My background is Ukrainian. I studied musicology and am well versed in Ukrainian epic and folk instruments.
I can understand the South Slavic languages however I cannot speak them fluently.
I do find the constant use of ethnonyms throughout the article somewhat distracting.
Bandurist (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: Currently guslar is linked from this article as a circular redirect back to itself. I was going to remove it, but I wonder if we need a separate entry for the guslari. It looks like there used to be one , but I couldn't find a discussion as to why it was removed/redirected to Gusle. I'll leave it for now and do some research to see if guslar merits a separate article. SheepNotGoats (talk) 17:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gusle versus Guslar 

message: Gusle is an instrument coming from Dinarid region and it is played by Montenegrins, Serbs, Croats and Albanians... enough!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rokonja (talk • contribs) 13:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Please, do not pay attention to Serbs nor their propaganda

message: At first, this section has no references at all.
Secondly, from this sentence "who played an important role in Croatian history (often folk heroes who died tragical deaths, such as hajduks)" someone draws the misleading conclusion that hajduks in Krajina were Croats, though they were Serbs keeping the borders of Austria-Hungaria."The whole period from the fifteenth to the nineteenth centuries was filled with the constant revival of the epic recollections concerning the existence of the once great and powerful Serbian medieval state. It was accompanied by constant liberation movements within the possibilities of the territories where the Serbs had settled, in two particular fashions. The haiduks ("outlaws") battled within the interior of the occupied lands. The uskoks ("border raiders") fought in the peripheral territories, all along the military border from Varadin and Karlovac in the North, in Senj, Udbina, Kotari, Makarska and Gabela in the South all the way to Boka Kotorska and Montenegro. Later, the Military Border would stretch all along the Sava, Tisza and Muresul, up to north Banat. A special army was formed along the borders. The commonplace heroism of the two types can be differentiated in its effects, a fact, which is clearly seen from the poems." reference: Nada Milošević-Đorđević, "The oral tradition" (Chapter from the book "The history of Serbian Culture"), Published by:Porthill Publishers, Middiesex 1995. http://www.rastko.rs/isk/nmilosevic-oral_tradition.html Also see article: John Miles, Literary art and oral tradition in Old English and Serbian poetry,Anglo-Saxon England / Volume 12 / December 1983, pp 183-214. 
Thirdly, there is a contradiction by saying that the musician Marko Perković Thompson incorporates Gusle music with his band. He has a fasistic music band, as one can see at the wikipedia article about him, being against Serbian (and Jewish) minority in Croatia. Gusle is part of the Serbian Cultural heritage and there must be showed strong facts, that he really played gusle instrument and sang the Serbian oral traditional poems.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvChris (talk • contribs) 16:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute on Croatian Gusle Section 

message: There should not be a "Macedonian", Bulgarian, and "Bosnian" version of the name in the introduction. Gusle is not played or part of the culture of the former two, and Gusle is not traditionally a part of the Muslim Bosnian culture or identity, in addition to the fact that putting "Bosnian" is redundant. 64.203.15.55 (talk) 18:47, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names in different languages 

message: There are sources in which gusle and lahuta are treated as same but many sources written by authors who know  Albanian tradition very well do not say it is same but similar. I.e.:
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--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Heej, well, if it is "similar", then it's obviously not the same. And should not be in this article! --WhiteWriterspeaks 22:19, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If lahuta is almost the same or if it is a variant of gusle then it is not necessary to remove it from the article but to add the differences from gusle. Does anybody know what are differences between lahuta and gusle?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The only difference I can see between the lahuta and the Gusle is in the manner they are played - lahuta is octosyllabic verse, Gusle decasyllabic, and the lahuta players use their intermediate phalanges to play, and Gusle players, their Distal phalanges. Critikal1 (talk) 23:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources refer to the instrument, not to the manner they are played.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is lahuta same as gusle? 

message: This article is a horrible hodgepodge in style, quality of info and consistency. It has parts that are highly informative and obviously written by experts, intersperced with illiterate blabber in words that are not aligned in sentences with various foreign words thrown in throughout without any real reason and it need serious reworking. Apparently it is a result of the introduction of a foreign element to the original text, such as references to soemthign called "lahute" throughout without any rational justification or references.
Perhaps separating Gusle from Lahute aqs two articles and then cleaning the Gusle article would do the trick.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.111.1 (talk) 00:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a horrible hodgepodge