Talk:Ogygia

message: In his book "Ulysses Found", plausibly reconstructing the voyage of Odysseus back to Ithaca, for various reasons author Ernlie Bradford suggests that Ogygia was Malta. 
Also to build a large raft Ulsses needed some largish timbers and of the various contenders, only Malta had a large enough area to support large tree growth. AT Kunene (talk) 20:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ogygia 

message: Right now the article cites two sources claiming that either the Romans or the Carthaginians had transatlantic contacts. I don't know how to fit this in, but I think the article should at least note that most scholars doubt that. 96.241.155.5 (talk) 01:31, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue weight for fringe theories? 

message: The ancient authors make this clear, and the article does not discuss properly this essential interlinking connection of esoterically-coded mythological metaphor. Virgil (Georgics, 1.242f.) "One pole is ever high above us, while the other, beneath our feet, is seen of black Styx and the shades infernal" - thus, Styx flows in sight of the other pole, logically. Ogygia is closely associated designation for this multidimensionally-meaningful, cosmological and geographical and "hermetic" zone. Ogygia is linked to Kronos directly, who sleeps in the "antarctic" lower hemisphere. The medievals carried the same idea in the Arthurian myth-theme of King Arthur of confused messianic variety, who is supposed to one day mystically reawaken with a mysterious "antipodean" war-band. Ancient Greek authors, both exoteric and esoteric, make it clear: Ogygia is a multidimensional metaphor for both the Hadean regions linked to the South Pole, and simultaneously the trans-material dimension of "entropic" or "helical" energies, the ancients associated with the underworld and the South Pole, and the "unheroic dead". The astrological connections, esp. to Saturn, the article also leaves defined. The word itself is used by Hesiod in a variable, contextually-discerete way in the context of describing Hades and Styx in the underworld, cosmologically linked to the South Pole. The gods abhor the ogygion region, both under and beyond the earth, etc. Esoteric authors emphasized the esoteric meaning. More mundane-minded authors emphasized the more geographical meaning. No necessary contradiction exists. E.g. Krates of Pergaemon in interpreting Homer, argued Odysseus sailed from Circe's island to Hades as a voyage from the Tropic of Capricorn to the South Pole. The Oannes of Berossos is Ea, that is, Saturn-Kronos, whose town is Canopus-Eridu, meaning, the very depth of the sea, the Antarctic waters once in the "golden age" Hyperborean and paradisiacal. Dante is clever in transmitting the esoteric tradition in making the lake of Cocytus, and the lowest sphere of Hell, a region, not of flames, but a region in which Lucifer is FROZEN IN ICE.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4CD0:1420:D194:9A43:33BB:3CE6 (talk) 15:01, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Can one of you wikipedias editors put this into the article ins some way, as, factually, this is the truth about the real meaning of the term. I know not editing and speak English mediocrely. 2600:1700:4CD0:1420:D194:9A43:33BB:3CE6 (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Ogygia is a Poly-Dimensional Metaphorical Reference to  the South Pole, Styx, the Underworld

message: Some associate the word Ogygia etymologically with Okeanos (Oceanus), 
and some derive it from a Semitic (Phoenician / Hebrew) word in the context of "Circle": Hogeg, s.a.: chug, chagag --109.193.69.76 (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology