Talk:Ruble

message: The article should include a brief summary of the rouble's history and its current position in regard to other currencies. The New York Times reports that "the ruble remains the world’s second-most undervalued major currency, behind only the Chinese yuan". In its current embryonic state, the article fails to serve our readers. --Ghirla-трёп- 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History and status

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Russia5000rubles03front.jpg

message: I'm UK. My dad just got told by the russian embasy its illegal to sell roubles here. Post office and m&s do that (ones goverment, one's high street food and stuff). Anyone got proof for the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.85.102 (talk) 15:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exchanging in other countries? 

message: Sorry for earlier messages, Ivan the terrible was, indeed, represented on the earlier Kopeks. This, however, is an incomplete picture, and circa 1722, he was replaced with Saint George.
http://center.rusmuseum.ru/InetBookNew/georg/7/index.php?menu=4
http://www.statesymbol.ru/currency/20050321/39595552.html
I will make the necessary changes in 48 hours unless objections arise.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.134.163 (talk) 06:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ivan The Terrible 

message: Do not mix "kopecks" and "kopeks" in the same article. This just causes lots of confusion. I don't even know what's the "legal" spelling of this; but no matter what the spelling is, it should be unified. -andy 92.229.78.183 (talk) 05:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it should be consitent.  In terms of a corrrect spelling, the Russian use the Cyrilllic alphabet so tranliteration into Roman text is what is set by convention.  Don't even get me started on "Ruble" being used instead of "Rouble". Although it has become poplular in recent years "Ruble" still looks vulgar and illiterate to vme and has nothing to do with regional spelling variations. Dainamo (talk) 08:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, "rouble" and "kopeck" appear to be the translations preferred by the Russian government. Goznak exclusively uses "rouble" and "kopeck", the Bank of Russia's English website is inconsistent and is roughly at 50/50. I tried to start a discussion about potentially changing the name of at least the Soviet iteration of the currency (always spelled "rouble"), but things became unpleasant. TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 01:06, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please! 

message: Hello, 
I think that following external link should be reinserted:
* Photos of historic, morden, anniversary Rubles and Kopeykas
I think that the link is useful because:
* link contains a lot of photos with different Rubles and Kopeykas relevant to the article. 
* photos cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to large amount of images.
* the external site has educational purposes only (not commercial, without advertisement) and contains neutral and accurate material that is relevant to the article. 
(Pavlikovskiy (talk) 21:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you continue to spam Wikipedia with links to your site, you will be blocked. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok. I understand you. I try to discuss it, as you wrote to my talk. I added few references to my site in articles where the references are relevant. This article (Ruble & Kopek) has no photos of Rubles and Kopeykas. However, Ruble & Kopek are not abstraction - it's something what people can see (there are thousands different Rubles and Kopeykas). This article has just one external link which is in Russian (I hope that most English reading people can read in Russian as well as in English ). I would say that my reference could be unnecessary (or spam) in Russian version of the article because that article has much more photos and a lot of similar external links in relevant language.  Why does external link exist in Wikipedia if they are banned in such cases as this article? I think that my 10 references (in relevant places) was not really spam attack to Wikipedia. Or does the reason is because the site is my ? I hope administrators should make unbiased decisions. 
(Pavlikovskiy (talk) 11:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link to photos with Rubles and Kopeks (Kopeykas) 

message: (november 2010)
Disagree. Russian ruble is a page for a specific national currency. Unless discussion arises, the template should be removed. Metaknowledge (talk) 23:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: *Any etymological connection with the Indian rupee? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:41, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: kopecks is redirected here, but many Wikipedias have individual article for the coin. See :wikidata:Q1415602--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individual art for copeck/kopeck 

message: Правильный меч д.б. дальше пуза ! А иначе, если как было - вообще без никакого смысла. Очень тупо. 
А на картинке здесь мужик висит рукой схватившись за скалу. Или стараетца. С доской ? Он маляр-штукатур ? Или там тянули ЛЭП ?  
Везде бардак! Как всё началось с 70-ых - так всё только падает и валитца. Не до Страны! Нужнее деньги. Ведь - деньги делают всё! 
А люди - ничего не делают .. просто висят схватившись за скалу .. 
Или там Кремль ? Он тот мистер Шмитт который на самодельном самолётике к нам так долго сутками летел без дозаправки ??
176.59.192.224 (talk) 00:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Collapsed per WP:NOTFORUM. Mathglot (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Кто-то предлагал символ - "Мечь под пузом!" .. 

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message: Generally, and excluding special situations such as direct quotations or words as words, should the nomenclature of currencies commonly called ruble (e.g. the Russian or Soviet currencies) be:
*Option A: ruble
*Option B: rouble
*Option C: Native names wherever applicable (e.g. "rubel" for Belarusian ruble)
*Option D: This is an engvar problem, and should be solved according to our pre-existing rules regarding English variants
Thanks, NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:32, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Weak support A because "ruble" is a stable nomenclature for our articles for a long time before an editor decided to change it to "rouble". However, I admit that it is a relatively weak argument, so I would greatly welcome sources and arguments favouring the other three positions. NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:33, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Nominator's comment: This RfC is impelled by the multitude of r(o)uble-related changes made by a certain editor with whom I have been involved in the past, as well as the several RMs (e.g. Talk:Azerbaijani rouble) that I made over these changes. NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're trying to make a WP:CONSISTENT argument, but CONSISTENT does not apply across discrete topics, only to multiple articles on essentially the same topic (e.g. Kyiv should not be spelled "Kiev" on side articles like "Demographics of Kyiv").  Different national currencies are discrete topics.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:28, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are quite a few r(o)ubles, such as the Azerbaijani r(o)uble, for which there are few RSes in English. My RfC does concern those currencies. Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) 08:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Mathglot (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is why to search for specific currencies, to rule out idiom ("all the ro[u]bles", etc.): ruble clearly dominates for the Russian currency, too: .  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:40, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

text: And Soviet rubles: .  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:43, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Support Option A - the common name certainly seems to be ruble in English sources and there seems to be no need to change it to rouble. BogLogs (talk) 06:49, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it is better to do a "rubles" v. "roubles" search of American and British news sites. With the plural search, which is the way news stories would write about the currency, it is more clear that it is a ENGVAR situation (i.e. "rubles"/American, "roubles"/British). --Guest2625 (talk) 11:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment 

message: The text currently reads 
with a footnote
I have tagged it as "failed verification" because the source does not give 1704 Ukase anywhere in the book?  Have I missed something?
 
(Full disclosure: the footnote originally read 
 but page 168 is about Hamburgish money? How is that relevant?) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fineness of ruble of 1704