Talk:Multiverse (Marvel Comics)/Archive 1

message: Netkinetic and Sceptre, do not stick vandalism templates on users' pages unless they're actually committing vandalism. This is regarding your unfair warnings to anon 67.167.58.37. If someone who appears otherwise to be a positive contributor takes an action that you disagree with, assume good faith and talk to them about it.
In case of a new false claim by both of you, I'll report you to administrators. Including you, Sceptre, which I will also report administrator abuse. Lesfer (talk) 03:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: False claim of vandalism

message: Starting this Talk page as this article is listed wanting copyediting.  I've done one pass and only made two small grammatical changes and it appears what is most needed is expansion more than changes to structure.  However, that's just my opinion.Markeer 02:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was in pretty good shape by the time I got to it, at least in terms of grammar, tone etc. I've done a light layer of additional copyediting. I'm not sure the tag is required anymore. What do people think? Metamagician3000 11:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree.  Linguistically it's decent as of today, although I don't know how to remove the tag myself, my apologies.  I'd say leave the tag on for another week at most then get rid of it (if someone links me the instructions I'll do it myself next week).  I do think the article itself could use either a great deal of expansion to describe 'unknown number' worlds from the various issues of mainstream books, not to mention points about the common parallel worlds such as the Negative Zone, Arkon's world, etc.  Either that or change the title of the article to make it simply a list of worlds with known numbers, then link it largely through the "Earth-616" article (which is itself linked in a wide variety of comics articles at the moment).  As is, the article seems to be either too limited or too uncertain as to purpose.  Any thoughts?Markeer 19:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyediting

message: Some have gotten confirmed in various Handbook besides the alternate Earth one.
I know.  The Alternate Universes Handbook had the most.  I try and add when something was confirmed like the Exiles have confirmed the two new alternate 2099 and New universe dimensions.
Originalsinner 01:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some have gotten confirmed

message: http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=33307&page=2&pp=20
"Marvel Encyclopedia Vol. 6: Fantastic Four gives quarter-page profiles to the following alternate Earths:
Earth X*
Earth 1602 A.D.*
Earth 2099 A.D.*
Earth-A (Alter-Earth)*
Earth-Bullpen
Earth-Challengers of Doom
Earth-Fantastic Five (Spider-Man)*
Earth-Ultimate
Earth-1961 A.D.
Earth-Five for the Future
Earth-Alternate Powers
Earth-Larval*
Earth-Mangaverse*
Earth-MC2*
Earth-Mutant X*
Earth-Reed Richards' Rocket Group
The Alternate Earths Appendix covers the following:
Earth-712: Earth S*
Earth-8810 (the Time Bubble, which has its own profile in the book)
Earth-962: Amalgam
Earth-1000 (Domination Factor #3.5)
Earth-99476: Dino World
Earth-312 (Exiles #35)
Earth-95121 (Fantastic Force #12)
Earth-95122 (Fantastic Force #12)
Earth-616
Earth-6311: Other-Earth*
Earth-74101: Machus
Earth-7412 (merged Machus & Femizonia)
Earth-9061 (FF #341)
Earth-944 (FF #387)
Earth-967 (FF #414)
Earth-1112 (FF v3 #47)
Earth-1115 (FF v3 #47)
Earth-1116: Atlanterra (FF v3 #47)
Earth-110 (Fantastic Four: Big Town)
Earth-33 (Fantastic Four: Unstable Molecules)
Earth-9511 (Last Avengers Story)*
Earth-691 (Guardians of the Galaxy)*
Earth-7940 (Marvel Two-in-One #50)
Earth-715: Femizonia
Earth-7888: Earth-M (Silver Surfer: Parable)
Earth-36 (Startling Stories: The Thing: Night Falls on Yancy Street)
Earth-811: Days of Future Past*
Earth-774 (What If v1 #2)
Earth-808 (What If v1 #22)
Earth-8222 (What If v1 #31)
Earth-82801 (What If v1 #34)
Earth-8321 (What If v1 #37)
Earth-8312 (What If v1 #42)
Earth-9031 (What If v2 #11)
Earth-9032 (What If v2 #11)
Earth-9033 (What If v2 #11)
Earth-9034 (What If v2 #11)
Earth-907 (What If v2 #15)
Earth-9011 (What If v2 #18)
Earth-912 (What If v2 #22)
Earth-917 (What If v2 #27)
Earth-91111 (What If v2 #30)
Earth-91112 (What If v2 #30)
Earth-929 (What If v2 #41)
Earth-938 (What If v2 #51)
Earth-952 (What If v2 #70)
Earth-9510 (What If v2 #78)
Earth-969 (What If v2 #89)
Earth-989 (What If v2 #89)
Earth-97102 (What If v2 #100)
Earth-9811 (What If v2 #114)"
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Enda80 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More Confirmed Matters

message: Earth-98151 confired in the Authority's entry in Handbook A-Z#1.
The 60's Handbook confirms Colossus' Earth-60672.
It also confirms Earth-829, Earth-6966, Earth-7888, and Earth-982.
Benny Beckley's A-Z entry confirms Earth-9997.
Blaquesmith's entry confirms Earth-4935, 811, and 295.
Bella Donna confirms Earth-9921.
Brood confirms Earth-1191.
Abraxas confirms a few.
Amhotep confirms Earth-4321.
Earth-2311 confirmed by Jack the Ripper's Horror Handbook entry.
24.147.66.140 (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More confirmed Earth

message: Hello all, I merged the contents (a large majority of the content on both pages were virtually identical) of Marvel Alternate Universe Continuum into this article, and added a redirect from the other page towards this page.  Please review to make sure all the contents have been assimilated correctly, I reviewed each Earth to make sure all that was listed on one page was included in the other.  However, having a second pair of eyes always helps.  Regards.  Netkinetic 04:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merged with Marvel Alternate Universe Continuum 

message: I believe this should be kept. Via Google, I've found the original Newsarama article that calls the 2005 What Ifs universe by this number - Newsarama preview - and also an interview with the writer of the first issue featuring Captain America, where he names it as Earth 717 - ComicBookResources.com interview with Tony Bedard. Satan's Rubber Duck 13:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth 717 

message: I got rid of anything that was not redundant on the MCU page and I just added a redirect from Marvel Comics Multiverse as well j-beda 15:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material removed from Marvel Comics Universe 

message: Most alternate realities are based on 616 until the point of divergence.  Once this happens, the future is permanently turned into an alternate reality.  Days of Future Past, Age of Apocalypse, Cable's future and Bishop's future are all different futures based on 616, which immediately become an alternate universe.  Any attempt to travel in to the future or from the future to the past will create this, so there is no true future of 616 until it is actually written.  Nothing in a future prediction story is ever destined to happen once it is created, because it branches off immediately.  Jean Grey doesn't have to have any children to "fulfill the future."  You could say that travelling back to prevent an event from happening does nothing except create a reality where the event already happened, while you continue in the unwritten 616 present.  Snikt! is an example where Wolverine is not required to prevent anything in the present, because a different future already exists seperate from what will happen in 616.  Why don't events that caused the future tend to cause it again in present day?  With the amount of new variables introduced from time travellers, dimension travellers, heroes and villains being revived or retconned, and different reactions of heroes or civilians to situations, the same chain of events causing one future is unlikely to happen again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihavenolife (talk • contribs) 01:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divergence 

message: A disambig for Devos has been created. A link points from this article to the disambiguation. Please help to fix it. Thanks. --Edcolins 21:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devos 

message: I don't think the Ben Grimm reference is right. It points to the thing... Or is this correct?
"Earth-989 What If? vol. 1 #109 (1989) Ben Grimm stays in Liddleville. "
:Well, Ben Grimm is The Thing in the normal (and most other) continuities so I'd assume yes. Satan's Rubber Duck 19:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You do have a point there. Satan's Rubber Duck 16:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ben Grimm reference 

message: Where is the proof of this? It sounds fictional and created by a vandal. Please post a link prooving the existance of this bizzare Universe known as the Omniverse.
*Can't link to a Marvel Handbook... actually this is what appeared in the appendix of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Alternate Universes. .  That site is by the guy who writes the Official Marvel Handbooks.
Originalsinner 23:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omniverse 

message: What's up with that? This whole table is getting pretty big and we should figure out a way to make it neater, but why were these removed? - j-beda 15:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think moving the minor What-If worlds to a seperate list (perhaps List of What If Multiverse designations?) what do well, as there are hundreds of them, seen in print once or twice then forgotten. Satan's Rubber Duck 16:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think an entirely new list may be a bit much.  Breaking up this list into a few categories would make much more sense.  69.183.124.119 19:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put 928 and 1191 back in after looking at the Alternate Universes Handbook.  They are in there so they rightfully should be returned in here.  Originalsinner 23:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Earth-928 and 1191 removal?

message: Waiiiit a second.  Earth-what now?  Is someone making up numbers?  Whether OHOTMU Alternate Universes or Exiles or some other canonical source, there need to be citations on these.  Otherwise just don't give them numbers. -HKMarks 04:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously. These are clearly just based on the broadcast dates for the pilot episode - google yields no hits for these Earth names except this article itself and mirrors of it, and I can't imagine what Marvel publication would have featured them. The same, quite frankly, applies to all the "What If" and "Wha-Huhs" that have been added in recent memory. I'm very, very tempted to just remove these until cites are offered. - Chris McFeely 02:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-2005117??  Cite! 

message: According to this article, both 78411 and 7841 are the home Earth of Devil Dinosaur, with the same reference title for both.  Which is it? Darquis 05:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devil Dinosaur 

message: Just revised the entire listing, verifying either the original source of the number ("First numbered") or a canon reference where they confirm a possibly pre-existing number ("Numbered"). I also deleted several universes from the listing that were unofficially designated by the Appendix site (or other fans), but not yet confirmed in OHOTMU. I haven't gone through the All-New OHOTMU, so I don't know all the universe numbers that were designated in there. JEB215 04:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 2/3/2007 

message: Have those alternate realities been marked yet? - !Malomeat 22:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe Marvels is considered part of main (Earth-616) continuity.--RedKnight 18:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Marvels/Ruins

message: Added Earth-9904, What if #9 "What if the Avengers were formed in the 1950s"--RedKnight 18:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-9904 

message: I think we should include a mention of universes that don't have numbers, such as the universes of the various animated series, video games and movies. Does anyone agree with me? 218.215.146.184 01:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I´m not sure. Some may coexist, but it´s hard to differentiate. - !Malomeat 01:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, unless a different section is desired to list issues which display universes that do not appear to fit into the current list... but then the article begins to resemble a forum, which is not desirable.--RedKnight 01:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  universes without numbers 

message: What about Emplante's dimension? As we see in Generation-X, M's vampiric brother is connected to a dimension filled with creatures that torture him. And then we have Dormammu's dimension. And What about Dormammu and Mephisto?
:Dormammu is the self-proclaimed lord of the Dark Dimension, Mephisto is the ruler of an extradimensional realm of Hell.--RedKnight (talk) 00:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Emplate's dimension

message: I don't know how to edit, but I thought I would tell you guys that that universe was featured in What if (Vol.1) #32 April 1982 (What if the avengers had become pawns of Korvac). So maybe one of you who know how to edit it can. Lustpuppet 15:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know the story did not receive a specific designation--RedKnight (talk) 23:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I stand corrected, Earth-82432 is the designation for the Earth you mention.--RedKnight (talk) 00:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-82432 

message: does anyone know which universe is for Marvel animated universe, which had the 1990's animated showsGman124 05:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has not yet been given a number in any canon source that I'm aware of. I know the Adventures of the X-Men comic suggested it was the universe that existed before the current Earth-616 universe (the one Galactus came from), but no number was provided. JEB215 04:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  This would include the older Marvel Age titles and all the new series under the Marvel Adventures banner which are aimed at a younger audience.--RedKnight 01:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Update: Just added "Earth-9411" from the All-New OHOTMU #7. It's only 100% the world of the U.K. Spectacular Spider-Man comic, but that comic is based on the Spider-Man animated series, which premiered in November 1994. So I'd say it's a pretty safe guess that this is the Marvel Animated universe. JEB215 01:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would be careful with this designation as obviously not all animated features could possibly take place on one Earth--RedKnight (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Marvel animated universe

message: How can you possibly forget Howard the Duck in all of this mess?  His planet of origin, Duckworld, is described in The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #5 (H-J) as "the alternate Earth known only as Duckworld.   Fukuto.jones 18:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Duckworld resides in an alternate dimension and I have added an entry for it--RedKnight (talk) 00:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No Duckworld is alternate reality so it can't be listed in dimension listing and as its designation is not revealed it can't be added to the reality list. --80.221.239.213 (talk) 22:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duckworld 

message: It would be a good idea to have only one page concerting this stuff. Merge JQF 18:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree they should be merged, presumably with this article being the 'main' one as it has been more thoroughly fleshed out.  I'd say someone can take the info from the Multiverse (Marvel Comics) article, add it here, and then delete the other article. - Markeer 05:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely now that the list of different Earths has grown to such an extent, this page should be split in two, in a manner similar to the Multiverse (DC Comics)/List of DC Multiverse worlds...? ntnon (talk) 17:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject.  If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class.  The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject.  Comics-awb (talk) 17:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: I'm pretty sure it's incorrect to say the Multiverse started with issues of Captain Britain. It started with Alan Moore's Captain Britain stories in issues of Mighty World of Marvel, I think.Hobson 01:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you are correct, but can you provide a specific issue for a more direct occurance?--RedKnight (talk) 00:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Retroactively, yes this is a very reasonable and logical statement.  This is the similar reasoning when discussion Earth-Two in DC comics. --RedKnight (talk) 00:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Captain Britain

message: Hi all
I was wondering about the new appendixes (is that the plural for appendix?) that appear in the Marvel Handbook Hardcover additions released this year starting with volume 2.  The thing is... it's going to make this page EXTREMELY longer than it already is.  StarSpangledKiwi (talk) 21:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvel Handbook Hardcovers (2008) 

message: Some terminology in this article appears to be too technical and requires an in-depth knowledge of the terms involved, which makes the article less useful for a general readership which may actually be trying to find out what the terms mean from this page. Xantharius (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Too technical

message: I wonder if it would be of help to separate out the "origin" year into a separate column so that the table can be arranged by date...? Or would that be needlessly confusing?
Similarly, the entry for the DC Universe is confusing - and wrong. Fair enough, it could be argued to have appeared within the framework of the Marvel Universe in JLA/Avengers, and that Earth was the revised one created in Zero Hour, BUT. First of, New Fun #1 was the first DC publication, but didn't (as far as I'm aware) debut the DC Universe. I strongly suspect that Action #1 or Detective #1 would be better candidates. (Character wise, Slam Bradley was in DC #1, but Superman was probably the touchpaper of the DCU-proper. Character interaction displaying the shared universe wasn't until All Star Comics #3, though.)
Moreover, Spider-man met with Superman around 25 years before JLA/Avengers, and that was not the only meeting between the Universes. Even assuming that the one-offs can be retroactively classified as Elseworlds (as per one of the Batman/Daredevils, and hence both, and hence..), the DC vs. Marvel event clearly showed the two Universes co-existing, before the Amalgamation (which is listed here) - all pre-dating JLA/Avengers. So the DC entry is several kinds of inaccurate.
Equally, while Namor did feature in Motion Picture Funnies Weekly, his "first true appearance" was Marvel Comics #1. I forget when precisely it was established that characters could interact, but the 616-proper would be much more accurately dated to the "true" Marvel debut of FF #1 than back-dated as it currently is.
It's all a bit confused and confusing, but it is definitely currently wrong for both of those key 'Earths', even if it's difficult to suggest what to put in place. ntnon (talk) 00:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabulation and 616/DC dates, titles and origins 

message: As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T  16:34, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: C-Class rated for Comics Project

message: Belasco's realm where Illanya Rasputin-616 grew up is listed both as a seperate universe, and as a "pocket dimension."
The "What If?" where Wolverine becomes a vampire is listed twice, as two different universes, and refereces two different issues of the magazine.  I don't have the correct information available, so I won't correct this error.  96.60.70.254 (talk) 01:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Two errors

message: I've read that The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z Volume 4 labels the world of The Spectacular Spider-Man (TV series) as Earth-26496. Since I don't have access to the said handbook, thus mine's only a second-hand account, I'm not saying to add Earth-26496. Rather, I figured maybe one of you who does have the handbook could look this up to confirm/disprove it and add the univesre to/leave the universe out of the article.  --DanMat6288 (talk) 22:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-26496? 

message: I usually drop by Marvel Database, and I noticed they have their own universe designations to Marvel characters appearing in other media. For example: the 90s X-Men cartoon is designated as "Earth-92131", while the X-Men movie series is "Earth-10005".
My question is: should these be added to the listing too?189.82.66.82 (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvel Universes pertaining to other media  

message: I yanked the Definitions section -- as per the boxes at the top of the page, it's really little more than an overly complicated segue that has little to do with the main thrust of the article and is frankly what the Search field is for -- and re-ordered the opening paragraphs for a better flow. Additionally given the 2009 Savage She-Hulk mini, I think there's enough to cite a basic structure to the multiverse (branchs as opposed to strictly parallel). Misterandersen (talk) 16:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Further, I think it might be an option to cull the list of AUs down to a small number of significant 'verses -- so any one from which a currently published or otherwise significant character hails from -- with a new page containing the full listing. If you want to go that way and get rid of those anoying suggestion boxes. Misterandersen (talk) 16:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Streamlining. 

message: Notes on a few changes:
* Earth-120185
**The "first appearance" of Earth-120185 is currently listed as The Transformers (US) #1, but the Earth name/numbering derives from The Transformers (UK) #9 (first non-US story printed in the UK.)
**The Marvel UK and Marvel US TF series are explicitly separate universes, even though many stories (such as the first 8 issues of the UK comic) occur in both universes.
**I'm switching the "First Appearance" to UK #9.  This Earth designation was chosen specifically to distinguish the TFUK Universe from the TFUS one.  (It first appeared in Death's Head's Marvel Handbook entry in relation to his visit to the TFUK universe.  Death's Head never visited the TFUS universe.)
**If this becomes an issue in the future, I suggest either dual-crediting the "first appearance" as TFUK #9 / TFUS #1, or crediting the first appearance as TFUK#1.  (The latter is less accurate for complex in-continuity reasons, but probably less confusing.)
**FWIW, while the TFUS universe remains un-numbered, fans have speculated on the following proper designations: (in order of diminishing likelihood) Earth-984, Earth-986, Earth-890, Earth-490.
***The Transformers Multiverse has its own numbering system for categorizing Universes, in which the TFUS universe is "Primax 984.0 Gamma", so if you really need to refer to it explicitly for some reason, I suppose that can serve as a "least wrong" handle.
* Earth-01000101
**The first appearance of this Earth is incorrect, it's Incredible Hulk #600, not Savage Se-Hulk v2 #2.
**This is the only Earth with a padding 0 before it's number-designation.  The natives of Earth-01000101 evolved from binary computers-- this is clearly a binary 1-byte representation of the Earth number, so I'm moving it up the list to "Earth-69" also known as Earth-01000101, with the quotes to distinguish that the prior hasn't properly been used.
-Deriksmith (talk) 04:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transformers, and Binary Earth 69 

message: I noticed someone listed Motion Picture Funnies 1 (the first apperance of Sub-Mariner) as Earth-616's first apperance. Considering Motion Pictures Funnies 1 was never released I don't think it should count as pre-dating Marvel Comics 1. Also it's the same story in both, just a few extra pages in Marvel Comics 1. 24.69.152.57 (talk) 20:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-616's first apperance 

message: So which one is it? Earth 371 or Earth 731? Both are listed as his reality of origin. So either one is wrong, or some disambiguation is needed. - Sunyavadin  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.210.64 (talk) 02:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gambit from Weapon X 

message: Unless I'm missing if for some reason, there is no mention of Earth-20152 in the "Elf With A Gun" biography.RedKnight (talk) 15:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-20152 

message: http://www.marvunapp.com/master/earthteaz.htm
:I have confirmed with those who maintain marvunapp that although they have an extensive list of Earths not otherwise published, that the listing on the site is essentially a working copy and unless an Earth designation actually sees print, it is unofficialRedKnight (talk) 16:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Was this referenced

message: i know we have them for the Spiderman movies and the X-men movies but what about all the other Marvel Movies.... origional spiderman, Hulk, Fantastic four... and many more earlier ones... do they not get there own universe??? --- 88.108.244.99 11:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Typically Movie adaptations are considered non-continuity.  One issue with giving them designations is that interaction between the various characters and teams, which should be possible, would not be likely due to the various production companies involved in the making of the films; for example Spider-Man is distributed by Sony, X-Men is distributed by 20th Century Fox.  With this factor in place, what should typically be a single Earth designation for the movies would end up requiring multiple designations.  Simply put, do to their independence from the comic book stories, Earth designations are simply not needed.--RedKnight 22:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If that were the case, then why have I come accross a Wikia source with multiple pages claiming the Spider-Man movies to have been assigned the universe title "Earth-200253"? Is this misinformation? DanMat6288 (talk) 22:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

text: In the latest hardcover handbooks many non-comic materials have been assigned designations including movies, television programs, novels, and even RPG modules. RedKnight (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

text: This makes sense now that Marvel Studios is making movies that cross over with each other. Spekkio (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the varied movies, we should consider adding in the movie designations.  If nothing else, checking the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe for official designations.  If they aren't listed there, then likely they need no listing.  Or perhaps a catch-all listing that mentions that the movies may be from one or more divergent universes.Jhaiisiin (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie Universes 

message: Earth-0 is the Designation for the Universe before the Big Bang. The Place Galan (now Galactus), D'Spayre and the Dweller-in-Darkness came from. The DC-Universe does not have a Designation of this kind. The Events of JLA/Avengers are mentioned in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe. The DC-Universe is referred to as an Universe from a different Multiverse.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.193.174.21 (talk) 10:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-0 

message: Ref
There are tons of What if Universes and now we also have what huh universes..... Shouldn't we have a different page for it already?
Anyways, add these if you want, but i find these too silly to add in this list
200500 All Avengers have Beard
200501 Ultimate Ultimate Universe
200511 MODOK had an itch
200513 FF reach Moon (and die)
200515 Marvel Aged Real Time
200525 Emma Frost reads Nick Thompson's thoughts (the hell why is this even given a name?)
Anyone knows what is the name of the Universe in which Aunt Petunia is killed by Impossible Man?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RanmaRaj (talk • contribs) 01:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What huh...? 

message: Not sure where anyone got the number 666, it isn't listed in any official source. 'The Supernaturals' took place on Earth-98091. I do not have a first-hand source at the moment, but I will hunt it down unless someone has it off-hand. RogueBurger (talk) 16:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-666 wrong -- changed to Earth-98091 

message: To which universe belong the The Mighty Avengers? 178.192.107.70 (talk) 23:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Mighty Avengers]] 

message: In this article there are a few universes that are mixes of Marvel's Earth-616 and DC's main continuity.
In the page it states both times that DC's main continuity is Earth-0 which is currently incorrect. It originally was Earth 1, then merged with Earth 2 and became merged Earth 1. Earth 0 was a Bizarro Earth. Then another bunch of Earth's fused and became New Earth/Earth 0. After the big recent DC reboot, the New 52, they made a new multiverse map. Prime Earth is the new main continuity and it fuses old Earths like Earth 0 with a few other Earths. Now there is no Earth 0 to be seen. bhegeta) 11:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: DC's Universe Error

message: From TV shows and movies, the following are missing:
Ultraforce (1990's Cartoon)
Men in Black (Movie Franchise)
Men in Black (1999 Cartoon)
Captain America (1990's Unreleased Cartoon)
Ultimate Spider-Man (2012 Cartoon)
Wolverine and The X-Men: Xavier's Apocalyptic Future
Universes from final arc of Spider Man: The Animated Series other than Earth-38119.(6-arm Spiderman, Octopus Spider-Man, Armored Spider-Man, Animated Scarlet Spider, Crazed-Symbiote Peter Parker)
From videogames, these are some of the missing:
Parker Brothers' Spider-Man (1982, Atari 2600)
Acclaim's Marvel (1989-1995)
Sega's Spider-Man & X-Men (1989-1994)
Data East's Avengers (1991, 1995)
Activision's Spider-Man (2000)
X-Men: Mutant Academy (2001)
X-Men: Destiny (2011)
Spider-Man Videogames of the 7th Generation and its universes and timelines
In addition, Capcom's Marvel video games (X-Men Children of the Atom, X-Men Mutant Apocalypse, Marvel Super Heroes, MSH War of the Gems, X-Men Vs Street Fighter, MSH vs SF, Marvel Vs Capcom, MVC 2) seem to happen in the same continuity. However, they are not listed as a separate universe or in the same as MVC3. Does Earth-96169 exist only for that installment of the series?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 00:33, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Universes involving other media not listed with or without number designation 

message: Earth-616 crossed-over with Post-Zero Hour DC Universe and Heroes Reborn/Counter-Earth (also in the same universe of 616) crossed-over with the original Wildstorm Universe. 
In a point of view, Earth-616 never crossed-over with Earth 1, or Earth 2 or any of the Infinite Earths, nor the Earth of the Crisis on Infinite Earths aftermath. Although some inhabitants of the new multiverse remembered events of the Post-Zero Hour DC Universe, it is debatable or unknown if the crossover also happened in the new continuities, namely New Earth/Earth-0 and Earth-50, and then Prime Earth. 
However, if you consider that Post-Zero Hour DC Universe was the merged "Infinite Multiverse" and the 52 and New 52 is the shattered Post-Zero Hour DC Universe, then it happened with the whole DC Universe, past, present, future and beyond. Maybe an official word from DC is needed on this subject.
I suggest that the description for Amalgam Earth should not have the line in parenthesis: "(in 1995 it was merged Earth 1, 2006 New Earth/Earth 0, Prime Earth currently)"
The final entry in the list, "The DC Universe" should be changed as well but the question is how. Should the Post-Zero Hour DC Universe and the Wildstorm Universe be listed separately? Should the 2 former universes be mentioned within a single entry for "The DC Universe" (without the note "now known as Prime Earth" which is completely wrong)? Either way, first appearances should also be fixed, but, should it have the first appearance of the whole DC Universe from 1935, the first appearance of the Post Crisis Earth, the Post Zero Hour Crisis Earth, the first Wildstorm, Worldstorm reboot, The 52 and The New 52? Or just the first appearance of the whole DC Universe and the first of Wildstorm?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 01:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  DC Universe Error Take 2 

message: Some examples are the following:
Spider-Man: The Manga (1970)
Hulk: The Manga (1971)
X-Men: The Manga (1998)
Spider-Man J (2004)
Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane (2004)
Spider-Man: India (2004)
Aircel Comics (Men in Black)
Centaur/Genesis Universe
Furthermore, is not stated if Earth-93060 is the original Ultraverse or the post-Black September Ultraverse or if "both" are the same.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 02:02, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Printed official media which is unassigned 

message: It is marked as not yet official. We need official word from Marvel that this continuity is part of the Marvel Multiverse. If so, that would imply that every Super Sentai show from Gorenger to Kyoryuger (many of which are borrowed for the Power Rangers Continuity) are part of the Marvel Multiverse.
I suggest two major changes in the article. The addition of a separate list for the "unconfirmed" and "Not yet official" numbers and the removal of the entry for "Movie universes" (right above the DC Universe one).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 19:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-79203 - Battle Fever J??? 

message: I took the liberty to make a major edit to the article. I added a separate section of universes that do not have a citable reference. Is by no means 100% accurate. Some pages (like Marvel Wikia) which are fan maintained, use rumored, unofficial and other numbering for classification purposes, these cannot be citable, forum posts are also not citable as an official source. It has to be a Marvel official publication such as the handbooks, to comply with Wikipedia's goals. I also revised some spelling. I hope this can improve this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit of October 1st, 2013 

message: I removed this link. http://blaklion.best.vwh.net/time_links.html. After a good reading  I realized it is a fan attempt to summarize the universes in the Omniverse, not just Marvel, DC and some others as well as characters from legends, folklore  and literature. Much of the information is speculated (it is stated in the page itself) and some "timelines" seem to be fan-fiction. The information on this page was borrowed for the deleted list (which explains plot orientation, over-explanation and unofficial numberings and names); some of that info also appears in the List of DC Multiverse worlds, which is also awfully extensive and includes worlds not officially listed within the 52 (which spans over 60 worlds in the page) and The New 52 (which has many "unknown" entries). In addition, there's also an unclassified section including many speculated universes (such as Post-Crisis Earth/Earth Sigma and the soviet versions).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.137.95 (talk) 00:51, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Cosmology Compendium 

message: For the sake of the article, I suggest that any info added regarding this upcoming saga (as of April 2015), should be added after the whole saga has been released in order to avoid an "edit war" and that the article could be free from speculative information at least for the duration of the publication. Should be noted a recent edit (03:32, 24 April 2015‎) that included a plot rundown and seemed to be advertising the premiere of the saga instead of adding a short description.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.249.162.36 (talk) 19:01, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret Wars 2015 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Multiverse (Marvel Comics). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071016181854/http://newsarama.com:80/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays44.html to http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays44.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 11:21, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I was reading previous sections of this page and one of them talked about how the Marvel Database Wiki makes up Earth designations. Is Earth-12041 a canon designation? I can't remember if it was in the Official Handbook or not.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batman3095 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-12041 

message: The Amalgam Universe is referred to as 692 and 9602. Since 692 has cited references, can somebody provide a citation for 9602 or remove it?  CovenantD 04:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that one has been visited by the Exiles' World Tour arc, but if it has then that is probably why. All the universes they are visiting, while practically identical to the ones that the readers know, are "very close approximations" and are being given new numbers. Things like the New Universe are going to start having double numbers in this list soon... Satan's Rubber Duck 13:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't the Amalgam Universe actually created twice?  I don't have the issues handy, but a remember the Spider-Boy and Amazon stuff, but then there was the weird mergeance with characters like Bishop-Superman which I believe was in DC vs Marvel #3 which would be the Earth-9602.  I believe both numbers are valid.--RedKnight 20:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Amalgam was created thrice. Once in DC Vs Marvel #3, next in All Access #3 and last in Unlimited Access. DC Vs Marvel version was supposedly destroyed and converted into All Access version which was preserved inside Access. In Unlimited Access series there is reference of the back story of Redwing and Bat-X although neither is a part of the former versions (Batman was amalgamated with different characters all 3 times).... That makes them unique dimensions of each other in the least and different universes at the most RanmaRaj (talk) 00:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Amalgam was only created once and it was a multiverse in its own and it's the "second" Amalgam Universe. This was a stable independent version of the original which was Marvel and DC Universes merged (therefore, Marvel and DC are the shattered original Amalgam Universe). It retained most of its continuity (if not all). Within this new universe, in Challengers of the Fantastic #1, Reed Richards is watching an "Earth Two" in which he sees a present in which a heroic age started in WWII and the descendants form Infinity Kickers. Lobo the Duck happens in an alternate timeline in which all the heroes of Amalgam Earth were killed. Dark Claw Adventures suggests there is an Amalgam Comics Animated Universe (Amalgam of the DCAU and Marvel Animation from the 1990's) produced by "Fox Bros.". The fake letters to the editors also suggest an Amalgam Real World where Amalgam comics have been published instead of DC and Marvel and there are even amalgams of writers and editors. In Spider-Boy Team-Up #1, two different futures are seen. Spider-Boy noticing the differences of both futures, remembers he hasn't seen something like that since "The Secret Crisis of the Infinity Hour", suggesting an event involving multiple realities and timelines occurred. Finally, in the final episode of Unlimited Access, a new Amalgam Universe is not created, only new amalgamated characters which remember their own realities are created and when Access and "Dark Access" touch in a final struggle, both see glimpses of many amalgamated earths. Amalgam can't be part of the DC Universe as it can't be within The New 52 (no slots left) and they don't list it as one. Marvel designated Earth-9602 as Amalgam but what Amalgam Earth is Earth-9602? The mainstream?, ACAU?, Bizarro Spider-clones? Bat-X? Amalgam Earth Two? The whole Amalgam multiverse? The information in Wikipedia is accurate as it is the official statement from Marvel and should not be revised or edited. Is up to Marvel to revise this information.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.165.86.27 (talk) 18:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 9602 is the mainstream Amalgam universe.  I don't know about the rest. Should they be on the main universe box? Batman3095 (talk) 19:25, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two different numbers for Amalgam Earth 

message: On the known main universes, should there be a section of something like "last published" or "ended on/with"? I saw that some of the main universe have not been published in some time. Earth-12041 seems like it's coming to a close with the new Spider-Man series coming soon (the series is not a follow up to Ultimate Spider-Man).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batman3095 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth-12041 ending and the others ends