Talk:Protests against the Iraq War/Archive 1

message: "Critics accused the media of downplaying the demonstrations, e.g. when the Washington Post wrote about protests in Berlin: "Demonstrators also gathered in a half-dozen other German cities" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12210-2003Mar22.html), where half-dozen included Leipzig, Halle, Dresden, Jena, Rostock, Hamburg, Munich, Köln, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt, Mannheim, Ludwigshafen, Nürnberg, Stuttgart, Wiesbaden, Karslruhe, Heidelberg, Würzburg, Bielefeld, Hannover, Dortmund, Essen, Bochum, Gelsenkirchen, Wattenscheid, Oberhausen, Duisburg, Mülheim, Herne, Hattingen, Velbert, Hilden, Datteln, Münster, Osnabrück, Bonn, Aachen, Saarbrücken, Kassel, Bremen, Oldenburg, Kiel, Heide, etc."
Wow. I'm pretty sure that needs some editing (removing the unnecessary, overbearing list mainly), but wouldn't feel right doing so without a reference to back up the suggestion that there WERE protests in more than half a dozen parts of a Germany. Since I'm pretty new here and still finding my feet a bit, I've also struggled with understanding what's considered 'credible' as a reference... could anyone point me in the right direction? Lawlore 22:45, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)
Seems important to say, seems like it could be put more concisely. Lawlore, if no one deals with this in the next 3 or 4 days, feel free to ping me and I'll try to work out what best to do with this. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:22, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)
:Protests from all these cities were reported in German online media. First problem is that this is an encyclopedia in English, so sources in German are not optimal. Second problem is that many of the local online media do not archive everything they write, so the sources will be dificult to find again after a year and a half. Get-back-world-respect 19:20, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Media

message: I was in Amsterdam on Feb15 and i know for sure, there were no 10 000 people. There were 80.000 to 100.000, at least 50k. If you know Amsterdam: The Dam was entirely overwhelmed with people, the surrounding streets for at least 700 meters as well. Thats a lot more than 10k. Please Correct. Thx. 
Lo from Adam
I was at the Madrid protest on 15 March 2003, and IMHO, there were definitely much more than 120,000 people. The source cited in the article for that figure is the Spanish newspaper ABC, widely known to be right-wing biassed (i.e. pro-Aznar). Other sources put the figure at around one million. A year later I was at the 12 March 2004 anti-terrorism protest, whose figure was officially given as 2 million for Madrid, and from what I witnessed, both the 15 March 2003 and the 12 March 2004 protests were massive and impressed me to a similar order of magnitude (the anti-terrorism protest was bigger, maybe twice or thrice bigger, but definitely not sixteen-times bigger), so I don't give any credibility to the relatively small 120,000 figure given to the anti-war protest by a pro-war media. Regarding the Guinness record for the 10-million-people global protests against war on Iraq, the total figure commonly given for the 12 March 2004 protest in Spain surpasses it by over a 10%. Uaxuctum 11:33, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved here from [[Talk:Global protests against war on Iraq (pre-war)]].

message: Not srictly about this page but I have made this page Cairo Anti-war conference. which is related by being about anti-war movment. I am planning to do some resursh on the egyption Anti-war movment generally at some point soon. It would be good if anyone could come and have a look at the Cairo Anti-war conference page as I am only one editing it so far.--JK the unwise 10:49, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cairo Anti war conference 

message: I have created February 15th Protest (London) because being the the largest demonstration in the city's history it is worthy of its own article. I have made a start to it but I think there is more that could be said. I think that some of the the F15 demos in other countries probally need their own articles, a mabey some of the other big demo's. --JK the unwise 15:36, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[February 15th Protest (London)]]

message: There seems to be some abigiuity in the tile, as I said above it ... is a bit confusing, some of the protests days are global in that protests took place all over the world on that day, but others are not global in themselves as they only took place in one or a few countries, though I suppose they are part of ongoing protests all across the world. I have listed the options I could think of below please indicate which one you prefer or add new options for consideration.--JK the unwise 15:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems like the best option to me. It would also make the page more inline with Protests against the Vietnam War.--JK the unwise 15:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree with JK the Unwise on this one, to rename the article to drop "global", since "global" can be kind of ambiguous (described in a moment), plus more localized demonstrations are worth mentioning here, too.  Besides, what makes a protest a "global" protest?  I would consider it something with either multiple sites (like ANSWER's oft-used Washington and San Francisco combo), or far reach (demonstrators converge on one site from far and wide).  I've been to demonstrations in Washington where people have come from all over the place - not just drawn from the local DC area.  Schuminweb 21:13, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one has given a differnt opinion I'm moving it.--JK the unwise 18:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Global''   protests against the invation of Iraq?