Talk:Alicia Esteve Head

message: This person's name is in the popular press while her scandal plays out. By all indications, she falsely claimed to be a survivor of the 9/11 attacks. Many people will read about her, and then consult this Wikipedia article to learn more. It is hardly the time to remove the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.42.46 (talk) 13:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 09/2007 comment

message: The person this article is about is the subject of multiple non-trivial reliable sources:  New York Times, USA Today.  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 20:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but much that is reported in the media is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia.  The article is certainly in need of cleanup.  I dislike the lack of definitive information.  First possibility is that the woman has likely merely made a fool of herself loudly and in public, second that she believes she speaks the truth, third that she does.  Michaelbusch 22:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is definitive information.  Her "fiancee/husband" has never heard of her (a fact that is sourced) and her employer has never heard of her (a fact that is sourced).  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 12:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The NY Times article says that "Dave" died in the 9/11 attack, so the verb tense used in your comment is questionable. It would be more accurate to state the article says that friends and family of "Dave" say they have never heard of her. Edison 13:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CSD 

message: I removed the word "false" under the Appearances heading as too presumptuous.  Also made a small grammatical correction ("at colleges" for "in colleges") in the same sentence. 24.125.221.167 01:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

message: This article about an otherwise  not very notable person appeared only after a New York Times "expose." It appears to be a WP:COATRACK and may be contrary to WP:BLP principles. Not every newspaper article justifies an encyclopedia article. If her claimed 9/11 experiences and volunteer work were not encyclopedic before the NY Times expose, then they probably are not after the expose. See also WP:NOT#NEWS.Edison 14:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coatrack

message: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/30/nyregion/30survivor.html
Another source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/27/national/main3305007.shtml  I don't see any new information in it, but it lends further notability.--Father Goose 06:41, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: Tania Head is due to be the subject of Cutting Edge on Channel 4 on 11 September 2008 .
HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 21:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully Channel 4 will make it available on 4OD, which will help in getting more details for this page in the future.  As of now though, it's being shown (again) on the +1 channel. Smoothy (talk) 21:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm watching it on 4od now, so it can indeed be used to expand the article. 86.2.38.112 (talk) 18:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

text: An IP or IPs are continuing to delete this info without edit summaries.  Does anybody have any guess why?  Scolaire (talk) 19:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV documentary 

message: Someone has just removed the person's real name: Alicia Esteve Head. Since this name is given in the external references I have reinstated it. Format (talk) 06:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Add the reference, don't just keep saying it over and over. The removal is valid since it is currently unreferenced, you are the one reverting without adding a reference or a quote to support it. Spend 1/10 of the time you already expended on reverting and type in a reference. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tania Head, born Alicia Esteve Head

message: constant IP vandalism
The template you used is actually to request an edit be made to a protected page.  If you want to request that the page be protected, please go to WP:RPP.  However, I don't think page qualifies--it's only be vandalized twice in the past week, and usually more frequent vandalism is necessary to get semi-protection.  However, if the same level persists for longer, or if the frequency increases, feel free to go request protection.  I mean, you can actually request it now, and it might be approved, but my opinion is it won't/shouldn't be.  Qwyrxian (talk) 11:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been vandalized continuously since October 2010. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit semi-protected 

message: The first cite ([1]) which is used three times in the article, is a blog post that itself cites wikipedia for its facts.  This cite should be removed and replaced with a primary source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.226.153.28 (talk) 19:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circular citations 

message: This is getting out of hand here. Two IPs have been repeatedly removing sourced information regarding the facts that Head's claims have been exposed as fraudulent (, , , , , ). Rather than getting too involved in this mess, I am taking this discussion here to see if anyone can voice their opinion on this matter here. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as the photo is concerned, the IPs seem to have a valis point. I don't see how we can claim fair-use when someone could take a new picture of her. It doesn't have to be easy to do, just possible. Meters (talk) 04:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: tagged image with di-replaceable fair use-notice  Meters (talk) 04:39, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I am concerned about this most recent edit. I believe that needs to have a reliable source. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

text: I filed a report at the BLP noticeboard. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

text: One of the IPs insist that the Spanish source for her job in Barcelona is disproven, but that claim does not have a reliable source. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of sourced content 

message: My whole line about Tania Heads lies about being rescued by the hero Welles Crowther, the red-bandanaman who rescued 12 people but died himself was removed because: ""it was not well written"". Which naieve left-winger did this?? So this article is now incomplete. Typical Wikipedia. A historical fact was placed and then removed. Please block me forever.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.120.23.150 (talk) 04:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of historical fact 

message: Her story reminds me of people who've claimed to have been Holocaust Survivors that witnessed or even survived homicidal gassings or people turned into lamp shades. --197.228.45.139 (talk) 08:35, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holocaust Survivor Syndrome? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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