Talk:Mary Soames

message: I think this should be Lady Soames, not Baroness Soames, as so far as I'm aware she is not a peer herself.
The title Baroness is not used for the wives of Barons, only for ladies who are appointed peers in their own right (ie. Baroness Thatcher). She should therefore be known as Lady Soames.
Can someone verify that she holds no peerage?
lawsonrob 19 January 2006, 11:38
:See WP:PEER. Proteus (Talk) 20:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The BBC refer to her as Lady not Baroness in this article  Racklever (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there is a difference between what title is used socially and what is used legally. A woman is usually entitled to the rank of her husband and legally she was certainly The Right Honourable Mary, Baroness Soames or Mary, The Right Honourable Baroness Soames:   Also the BBC refers to her as Lady Mary Soames (a style used by daughters of dukes, marquesses and earls) which is incorrect. Björn Knutson (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:   Guys, how is it, "Lady Soames was made a Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire for her public service" - doesnt it means she get her own noblehood, being hereby a Dame, ie equivalent to a female Sir? 
Also, she was "She was appointed a Lady Companion of the Order of the Garter on 23 April 2005,[6] and was invested on 13 June at Windsor Castle.[7]".   As I understand it, this title too means a full Dame-title.  She was thus made a female Sir and nobleman double up.  OR?  
For me, being a knight Dame, in my own right, sounds more nice than being married to one nobleman, even if its the higher title of Baron, and having the Lady  title by this reason.
The question is, what counts as higher: to be a Lady, because married to a baron, or be a Dame, in her own right. Not even mentioning she got the titles because shw earned them by active work and service, even if the heritage didnt hurt any.
Ps. An extra question while Im writing. Mary served at AA-batteries.  Was she actively participating in the firing, being part of the cannon crew, or what did she exactly do?  As I know, it wasnt common for women in England to be active AA crews, while it was rather common in Russia.
/StefanZ78.69.228.145 (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Baroness?

message: I doubt it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.109.121.86 (talk) 22:43, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  MBE at age five? 

message: What happened in May 1965 to make her The Hon?  --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 00:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Her mother Clementine Churchill was created Baroness Spencer-Churchill.Dr. D.E. Mophon (talk) 01:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks.  --  Jack of Oz [Talk] 02:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The Hon from May 1965

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