Talk:World League for Freedom and Democracy

message: " It is currently a member of the United Nations Department of Public Information..."
This seems very unlikely and theree's no citation. I'll remove the claim if no evidence is provided.
Lenbrazil (talk) 05:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member of the UN Department of Public Information 

message: "The WACL had close ties with the governments of Taiwan under Kuomintang rule, and (to a lesser extent), South Korea. Naturally, WACL had firm enemies on the International Left and major efforts were made to discredit it by saying that numerous groups, some of questionable repute, also participated in the WACL, i.e: the Unification Church, and, it was said various Latin American death squads, and some former World War II Axis government officials wanted for war crimes. Both the Soviet and Red Chinese government front organisations in the West funded disinformation about the WACL."
This isn't neutral - "natrually" had enemies on the left, assuming that the left identify with Communism, "major efforts were made to discredit it by saying.." , but surely if some these allegations are true then its not "discrediting" but exposing and not saying but "revealing". Doesn't address the facts, just dismisses them as left wing discrediting. Following that with the comment about soviet/PRC backed disinformation implies the criticisms were fake - at the very least an "additionally," should be stuck at the front of the last sentence. Really the whole paragraph could do with re-writing. I'd advise a close look  at the rest of the article too.
~Avon—Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.128.68 (talk • contribs) 21:49, Nov 30, 2005
: The subject of this article is a fascinating one that needs a master’s thesis level of research so the sources and explanation (and neutrality) can do justice to it. I await someone else to work some more on it. – Kaihsu (talk) 14:22, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Prologue

message: Recent statements from the Obama campaign have re-raised McCain's involvement with this group, so perhaps a  tag is appropriate? -Miskaton (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  McCain/Obama current event? 

message: Does the group have any Nazi or Neo-Nazi connections?  I figured it might, since the extreme antipathy & paranoia they share towards communism, socialism, and liberalism. Shanoman (talk) 06:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Strange question. It has plenty of neonazi and radical right members. Cathry (talk) 04:53, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Overtly Fascist or Nazi connections?

message: i just wanted to comment that there are a large amounts of deletions of relevant information on this page. a quick look at them shows that any proof or allegations arising from eminent sources of fascist links to the organization are being deleted. -(76.176.127.182 (talk) 07:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A general comment like that isn't very helpful. Can you provide a link to the old version that had stuff that you think shouldn't have been deleted (click Article tab, then History tab, pick an old version, and provide the URL link here)? Or at least describe more specifically what you're talking about. cheers, Rd232 talk 07:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  so many deletes of info

message: In my opinion the recent edits have made the article very unclear. There's way too much information. Also, the part about the ADL worrying about far right elements in the League (and the later ADL affirmation that the League had purged far right elements) is conspicuously absent. 130.64.138.211 (talk) 23:11, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  October 2013 edits 

message: Much of this could be said about the rest of the article but the "Major activities" section is in particular need of attention.  Rather than actually focusing on major activities of the organisation it is a vast unmoderated list of activities at all its many conferences, with long details of attendees but often a lack of clarity as to whether they were simply from a country or whether they formally represented that country. It also requires much simple copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone, and spelling and it has not a single reference. The phrasing often strays well into WP:LABEL territory often departs markedly from WP:NPOV. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Major activities" section 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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By the way, the Finnish-language Wikipedia has more information about this organization. – Kaihsu (talk) 10:32, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taipei Times: DPP caucus agrees to cut WLFD, APLFD budgets 

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thread_title:  Older reports in Taipei Times 

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thread_title:  Taipei Times: MOFA asks for league funding despite criticism 

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message: 許劍虹觀點：台灣與歐洲極右派的淵源 --Kaihsu (talk) 14:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information 

message: There's already a graphic of the logo … so is the request for a photo still needed? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 04:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for photo? 

message: I was browsing through Wikipedia when I noticed this. I understand that politics is a VERY sensitive issue here, and lots of people try to thoroughly judge things from a modern perspective. But I still feel a bit uncomfortable honestly, I think the article should maybe be at least a tiny bit more balanced.
It united mostly ultra-right and authoritarian people and organisations, and acted with the support of the right-wing authoritarian regimes of East Asia and Latin America.
Is this implying that almost ALL the participants are very nearly equivalent to the Axis powers of the Second World War? Because honestly I don't think that's entirely accurate. What's more, this group is still active in Taipei, Taiwan, today, and modern-day Taiwan is certainly NOT a fascist dicatorship of any kind. Not saying the less savoury aspects of this group should be excused at all, but did it serve NO positive or constructive function whatsoever?? At the very least, this group does seem to have changed and moderated itself considerably since its foundation in the Cold War years. Poroprong (talk) 11:50, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In modern Taiwan the league is viewed as a beer garden for aging fascists and blowhards. It genuinely did not and does not serve a positive or constructive function, they've actually had an extremely detrimental impact on Freedom and Democracy around the world. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:38, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, random guy weighing in. From what I've looked up, I don't 100% agree necessarily that it was entirely "bad". It is horrible and reprehensible that it involved members of the extreme right, but for better or worse, this seems to have been condoned tacitly by the U.S. administrations at the time. And in fairness, both Joseph Stalin and Asian Communist leaders were genuinely funding disruptive militant movements themselves in neighboring states for decades on end, often without clear provocation. Certainly, Kim needed no valid justification to initiate the Korean War. I think we can all agree that it was "better" overall that the U.S. and its allies still won the Cold War, no matter if their tactics were often shady and disregarded human rights. If it helped deter Communist influence during the Cold War, it was still a net plus (at least from an American perspective). I mean, the USA did Operation Paperclip also, not great and hardly a secret today. But Stalin's USSR likewise recruited lots of controversial German war veterans who did mass atrocities, despite from being on opposite sides of the Second World War, and was also largely unfriendly in its policies towards Soviet Jews and Israel itself (heavily funding Arab states and their militant anti-Zionist movements), so that point is still counterbalanced. Vonerbass (talk) 07:00, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy POV / Bias in Article?