Talk:Amadís de Gaula

message: I'd do it myself if I had the time and expertise — the merge is not entirely trivial, as this stub does have some elements which don't appear in the main article (notably the Lion epithet) and would need to be fact-checked and categorised here. -- Perey 15:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge request

message: Shouldn't it say "Anonymous" as the author? (Antonio.sierra 20:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Author 

message: Shouldn't be made the following statent without any explanation: "A Portuguese origin is most widely accepted but Amadís has also been claimed by the Spanish, French and Italians"
Nowadays that only fact available as far we can investigate, are the Castillian editions as the oldest, so assuring the Protuguese origin when there is no one portuguese old edition or any data is demagogic. It is also to be considered the low difussion of the work in Portugal.
Please that statement should be deleted. I.I.A.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.151.95 (talk) 12:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Sir, you can verify the statements made in the articles by reading  Infante Enrique of Castile in Wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.100.46.20 (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to me that too much space is given to Santiago Sevilla's theory and articles in the Amadis article at this time.  It would be helpful if Mr. Sevilla's institutional affiliation and rank was given, and if the requirements for inclusion/publication on the Liceus El Portal de las Humanidades website were explained here on the talk page (are articles peer-reviewed?).  Until such time as the theory is more fully discussed in academic and peer-reviewed publications by specialists, its inclusion in this article seems premature, and (following Wikipedia:Verifiability) it may be necessary to move the passage to the talk page. - NYArtsnWords (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Infante Enrique of Castile]] as putative author? 

message: Why did de Montalvo have to write a fourth book?  Is it possible that he was forced to replace a volume that had largely rotted away with the passage of time?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.162.137 (talk) 22:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  THE FOURTH BOOK  

message: Is there any information about what English translations are available and what, if any, the differences are between them?  ARE there any English translations out there?(216.15.62.119 (talk) 03:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: English translations

message: How can "the use of the present participle... bring Amadís into line with the allegorical style of the 15th century"? And might the reader have references to scholarship mentioned in passing?--Wetman (talk) 14:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegorical style 

message: Contributors to this article do not seem to realize that the "Gaula" in the title of "Amadis de Gaula" is actually meant to signify Wales and not ancient Gaul. Note in Spanish the similarity of the names "Gaula" and "Gales" (Wales) and how distinct they are from Spanish for Gaul namely "Gália". In any case Amadis takes place in (a legendary, pseudo-Celtic version of) the British Isles so there is no doubt about this. Therefore everything in the article that connects the "Gaula" of Amadis to ancient Gaul, i.e. the geographical area today known as France, notably the purported translation of the title and the blue links, is wrong. Contact Basemetal here 04:44, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, at least in the French and Italian traditions (and, probably, by extension, the English translations), "Gaula" was clearly understood as "Gaul" and not as "Wales".  In Bernardo Tasso's poetic translation into Italian (1560), he is referred to as "Amadigi di Francia" (Canto X, Stanza 51, "Amadigi di Francia fu nomato").  In the 1540 French translation by Herberay des Essarts, when King Perion "de Gaule" returns to his own lands (after visiting King Garinter "de la Petite Bretaigne", i.e. Britanny), he consults his men about a dream he's had, and these men include Ungan "le Picard" and Albert "de Campaigne" (Book I, Chapter III; edition by Yves Giraud, Paris: STFM, 1986, p.23.); later, we find his other vassals include Gallin/Galain "duc de Normandie" (p.93, 98); and in a later chapter, when Amadis decides to return from "Gaule" to "la Grand[e] Bretaigne" (i.e. "Great Britain") to seek adventures, he has to take a ship from Gaul to Bristol (Chapter XI; ibid., p. 116.).  (Other nations/realms mentioned in the French text include: Cornwall, Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Scotland...).  John J. O'Connor, in his study of Amadis de Gaule, says "More than any other country France took to the Amadis cycle.  French reaction must have been in large part patriotic.  Amadis, after all, is "of Gaul", and the French naturally assumed that Gaul was France.  Translators were quick to suggest the correspondence of the heroic personages to the heroic royalty of sixteenth-century France." (p.10).  - NYArtsnWords (talk) 16:42, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  See Edwin Place, "Amadis of Gaul, Wales, or What?", Hispanic Review, 23, 1955, pp. 99-107. I'm sorry but I do not recall the author's position in this article, which I read 30 years ago. At the time, Place was the leading expert in the world on the book. O'Connor does not know Spanish. deisenbe (talk) 14:15, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Place, Gaula is a fictional kingdom in "little Britain" (i.e., Brittany) and is not either France/Gaul or Wales. The dominant opinion when he wrote, however, was that it was Wales. Srnec (talk) 00:48, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Gaula" in "Amadis de Gaula" is Wales, not Gaul. 

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message: Of interest perhaps, is in sources such as this, the adventures of Don Bellianis has been noted as a continuation of Amadís.--Lmstearn (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don Bellianis: A Continuation