Talk:Champon

message: This definition is from our about page, but it is a general definition. Not sure how to do the notation on this... also don't know if this is a valid article... Joi 08:43, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition

message: The Korean people I know consider their Jjamppong to be of Chinese origin.  It's usually served in Korean-style-Chinese restaurants, alongside Jajangmyeon (which is derived from the Chinese dish Zhàjiàng miàn).
There's no source given for the last paragraph, just a link to Talk:Korean cuisine#chao ma mian which only confuses things further.  Chinese think it's Korean, Koreans think it's Chinese, the Korean name is derived from Japanese, the Japanese name is derived from Malay, the Japanese say they invented it, the Okinawans have a different dish (in the same spirit) with the same name.  Can anyone keep this straight? — AKADriver ☎ 18:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equivalent Dish section 

message: The first sentences say it derives from China, and then that it has a partially Chinese origin, having been invented in Nagasaki by a Chinese restaurant owner. The second section seems to indicate that Nagasaki-style champon is a different food, with strong Korean influences. So, which is it? Is it a Chinese dish, a Chinese-influenced dish from Nagasaki, a Korean-influenced dish from Nagasaki, or a Korean dish? LordAmeth 14:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Confused origins

message: Chanpon seems to be a pared-down version of the article, focusing on the colloquial use not related to food (which is covered some in this article). I think having both will likely be too confusing, and think they'd be better combined into one article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion

message: *Merge per my reasoning above. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Nagasaki style Champon is similar to a Korean dish called Champong or Jjamppong (짬뽕) and a Shandong, China dish called chao ma mian (山東炒碼麵). The Shandong version tends to be the most spicy. Due to the proximity of these locations, the three dishes most likely share the same origin.
This sentence has several problematic issues, so I delete the mention about shandong, China. First of all, Korean "jjamppong" is very different from nagasaki style champon. The ingredient for broth is made with seafood and chicken bone unlike pork soup used in Japanese champon. A raw egg is not topped on the noodle soup but chili pepper is included in jjamppong. I don't know Shandong really has chao ma mian, but according to Korean wikipedia, the name is a neologism made with hanja because the creators were Chinese. I think Shandong may have a similar dish but I doubt the name is chao ma mia.--Appletrees (talk) 18:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jjamppong 

message: I'm perplexed by the description which give information of jjambbong as if it were a kind of Champon. I, and perhaps almost all of Japanese, think that jjambbong is not Champon. It should be explained on the other article.--Kiku b (talk) 03:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Jjambbong is said to be almost an identical dish with Champon by making almost identical ingredients except the fact that it contains spicy chili pepper or others (don't know) according to Korean Wikipedia. Jjambbong and Chmapon have the same pronunciation with each other but due to the different Romanization methods applied by the two countries, it is spelled as such. The etymology is also speculated to be originated in Japan by Chinese immigrants and then some of them moved to Korea. So the root is said to be same. You're welcome to create the derivative article, but I don't think the info about the variant should be taken out just because you are not well aware of it. See Zha jiang mian and Jajangmyeon. --Caspian blue 03:58, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there the source except Wikipedia?--Kiku b (talk) 13:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an English source.--Caspian blue 17:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Thank you so much. I'm going to move the description of Korean dish to jjambbong page. Explanation of similarities between Champon and jjambbong will be also included.--Kiku b (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's jjambbong? 

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message: Due to pictures being added into the initial description the TOC shows up centered for me and the sections is overall messy. I don't think the pictures belong into the description? Wouldn't it be better to have a gallery for them? Nakonana (talk) 16:25, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: TOC misalignment