Talk:Samantha Kshatriya

message: The article should be renamed "Samantha Kshatriya" which is what the Rajahs were.Jammedfly (talk) 05:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename article

message: Megashtenes did not mention any Nairs of Malabar. Actually, the word Malabar may not even be that old. This has been thoroughly discussed and discarded in the Nair page on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ANair/Archive_9  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.144.10.250 (talk) 11:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion - Nairs of Megasthenes?

message: +1 on earlier section - this should be renamed as "Samantha Kshatriya" at the very least.
Additionally, the article has multiple mistakes including classifying Perumpadapu Swaroopam as Samantha as well as noting Raja Ravi Varma as a prominent Samantha. It is well known that Perumpadapu Swaroopan (Cochin Raja) are Kshatriyas with the sacred thread. Raja Ravi Varma is from Killimanur and are also Kshatriyas with the sacred thread (Upanayanam / Poonool)
The article has too much misinformation (including categorization of different last names) without any references / citations. A complete rewrite is suggested.
--Das  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.221.181 (talk) 04:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename article and clean up references 

message: The population figures which are given in the introduction page are absolutely untrue and baseless. According to the 1931 census, there were less than 9,000 Samanta Kshatriyas in Kerala. (Of which, 3,673 in Travancore which itself is inflated as 90% of the Samanthan Rajas reported themselves as Samanta Kshatriya, although they don't have any Chandravanshi heritage. 2,128 reported in Cochin and 3,000 reported in Malabar making the population around 8,800). The Samanthan population is given as 97 in Travancore (laughable.... ROTFLMAO...), 571 in Cochin (again same) and around 5,100 in Malabar. It seems that only in Malabar, the Samanthans reported themselves as such. In both Central and South Kerala, they exaggerated their caste status. In Travancore, only the Koil Thampurans (10 families) had the Samanta Kshatriya status. The King of Travancore and the nine Raja families didn't had anything other than Samanthan status. The third subgroup, which was more populous than these two were also Samanthan. So, at any given time and under any condition, less than one third of the Travancore Royals were Chandravanshi Kshatriya or Samanta Kshatriya. The remaining were low caste Nagavanshi. Still.... when the result of the census is published, 97% of the Travancore royals suddenly rises to Rajput status!!!
Even if there were 9,000 Samanta Kshatriyas in Kerala during 1931, it will be impossible for them to increase their numbers to more than 25,000 or at the maximum 30,000 now. Nairs who numbered 1,750,000 in 1931 numbers less than 4,500,000 now, i.e 157% increase. So the Samanta Kshatriyas should number around 22,600 now. (i.e if no additional families were suddenly granted the Samanta Kshatriya status during 1931-2009). And, as far as I know, no Hiranyagarbha ceremony was conducted after 1930s, as the British banned the ceremony (When the people were starving, the Rajas of Travancore was wasting crores of rupees to keep their Chandravanshi status). So effectively, the royal house of Travancore is currently inhabited by Nāgas, not Aryans. 
If anyone has JSTOR access, then please refer this article.  Axxn (talk) 19:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population figures given are absolute rubbish 

message: I think that it should be merged with Kshatriyas in general. It's not really significant, and since it's part of the general Kshatriya caste, it should be merged with that article.Mountain Girl 77 (talk) 23:43, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  It should be merged 

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