Talk:CFL (disambiguation)

message: I propose that this (CFL) be redirected to Canadian Football League and the disambig moved to CFL (disambiguation). It seems to be by far the most widely used instance of the acronym both on Wikipedia (check what links there) and elsewhere. heqs 22:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds perfectly reasonable. If it is done, the tag  should definitely be pasted at the top of Canadian Football League. Lumbercutter 05:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  [Heqs made this change soon after. Looks good.] Lumbercutter 03:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed redirect

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
I have proposed that this page is moved back to CFL.  CFL is an important TLA and should not link to just one it its uses. The number of  what links there is not an adequate guide to the use of CFL as was mentioned in the previous comments.  CFL has emerged as a common abbreviation for Compact fluorescent lamp. Alan Liefting 22:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 09:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move back to CFL 

message: In my mind CFL certainly means Compact fluorescent lamp. Current setup cause a double redir.
CFL -> Canadian Fotball -> Disambiguation -> Compact Fluorescent.. When it can be:
CFL -> Disambiguation -> Compact Fluorescent..
Sports already get it's "fair share" in media outlets. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Electron9 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFL means more than one thing! 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose (again, and for the same reasons). This is the same proposal that failed in April. CFL was redirected here only two days ago by Benkeboy.--Bookandcoffee 21:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I have reverted the move of this DAB page to CFL. There are three failed move proposals here, and no new proposal, nor any evidence or links to such proposals elsewhere. I fail to see how this recent change could have been considered a non-controversial move. Please propose a move on this page next time, ar at least provide a link to a move discussion, per WP:MOVE policies. - BillCJ (talk) 06:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to CFL

message: This article has been renamed from CFL (disambiguation) to CFL as the result of a move request.
 - consensus to move as no one article now has primary usage. Keith D (talk) 12:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support as nominator.  Dragons flight (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments: Just as a post-closure note, I'd like to point out that I've been doing an AWB run to change links that are currently using CFL to mean the football league — and a considerable number of them are unnecessary as the article in question already links to Canadian Football League, but then relinks the acronym a second time for no obvious reason. So a good number of the current inbound links shouldn't even exist anyway. For what it's worth. Bearcat (talk) 16:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Move Proposal

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support as nominator.  Dragons flight (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments: Just as a post-closure note, I'd like to point out that I've been doing an AWB run to change links that are currently using CFL to mean the football league — and a considerable number of them are unnecessary as the article in question already links to Canadian Football League, but then relinks the acronym a second time for no obvious reason. So a good number of the current inbound links shouldn't even exist anyway. For what it's worth. Bearcat (talk) 16:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Shouldn't compact fluorescents be initialised as cfl rather than CFL? DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Acronyms are often capitalized even if the terms composing them aren't generally.  A google search on cfl light shows many examples of compact fluorescent lamps expressed as CFL (in caps) and almost none in the first few pages with it in lowercase.  Dragons flight (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to WP:DAB#NAME "There should be just one disambiguation page for all cases (upper- or lower-case), variant punctuation and diacritic marks." so there would still be only one dab page whichever way it is capitalised. Keith D (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compact fluorescents 

message: Does anyone else feel that it is appropriate to at least examine the idea of redirecting CFL to Canadian Football League? --Khajidha (talk) 13:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, this DAB page was moved last month year by an admin without any discussion here at all, in spite of the most recent discussion (2008) concluding that there was no primary topic. I don't normally override an admin, so I'm not going to revert the move myself, but I am requesting that the move be self-reverted, and a move discussion held. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 18:38, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: May be worth another discussion. The lamp isn't quite as popular as in 2008 so the football league may very well have overtaken it as a primary topic again. I however found this redirect to be unexpected. According to this BBC article, the league is little known outside of Canada. (Bradv hasn't been active for a few weeks) – Thjarkur (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree on all points. The league article got nearly thrice the views as the lamp article in the last year, so even though it's not well known outside of Canada, it still looks like the primary topic. My main quibble here is that procedure wasn't followed where a clear consensus already existed. I think the end result will be the same (CFL being the primary topic again), so I'm not asking for a revert now. (I had misread Brad's move date as 2021 instead 2020, so this isn't as recent as I originally thought.) BilCat (talk) 17:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the options on the disambiguation page, only the Canadian Football League and the light bulbs seem to be real possibilities for targeting. The bulbs are fading (pun intended) in popularity as LED bulbs become more common. So the question is, is the football league enough of a standout amongst the possibilities to claim "primary topic" or should the redirect go to the DAB page? --Khajidha (talk) 11:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's my reading of it too. The league gets nearly three times the views as the lamp, and also has historical significance. So the other factor to consider is current usage, which I haven't checked. At this point I'm content to let the status quo remain, but someone else is welcome to file an RFD for CFL if they disagree with the current setup. BilCat (talk) 17:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that no one has complained in a year could be seen as evidence in favor of leaving it as is.--Khajidha (talk) 18:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibility of redirecting to the Canadian Football League?