Talk:Caleb B. Smith

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message: It looks like we have different sources saying different things about where this person is buried.  
 
While it'd be nice to have this info to fill out his infobox vital stats, it's not very important to our readership generally, and if it's disputed I think it's best to just leave off mentioning it at all unless and until we get this sorted out.
User:Sensionson provided this source: "Weird Indiana Burial Mystery" a pointer directly to page 51) which indicates that the person has two graves, one in Collinsville which is empty and one at Crown Hill Cemetary in Indianapolis which isn't. There's a great deal of material here and I haven't gone thru it. But as far as I can tell it's a personal manuscript... it is in the Internet Archive, which gives the authors as John Walker and Cynthia Long and a publication date of October 8 1977, but doesn't say who published it, and there's no cover or title page indicating any publication. Here is an indication that its a letter that was sent to Lincoln Memorial University but wasn't published. How an unpublished letter (if that's what it is) got put into the Internet Archive I don't know.  
  
It's in the Archive so its available to the general public, but it doesn't have an ISBN or DOI or the name of a journal or a publishing house or any other thing to refer readers to, I don't know if we can use it. Even if we can, we can't be sufficiently confident that it's true. Even if it was, we appear to have a physical gravestone for the person that says he's buried in Collisville, so I think the most we could do would be to go "His burial place is disputed, either Collinsville or Indianapolis[ref]". But it doesn'tr look like this source is reliable enough for us to even say that. Short of somebody doing the work to read the source and figure this all out, I'm going to say let's not say where he's buried, since it's of very marginal importance to most readers. Herostratus (talk) 00:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Caleb Blood smith is not buried in CONNERSVILLE, INDIANA. (IF he is, there is no headstone) HE was first buried in Greenlawn cemetery before Crownhill was opened. There is a mystery to his burial for the reason of southern dissenters coming from south to north to descrate bodies. His wife Elizabeth Watton smith did not want this to happen to her husband so she did several things to stop what could happen. He has a mausolem in Crown Hill but he's not buried there. (Please contact crown hill cem in Indianapolis, Indiana to ask) Call the City Cemetery in Connersville, Indiana to ask if Smith is buried there. I've given you so much proof and you still deny the fact. I think you just are being stubborn, and that's okay, but I will never give you any more information because you reject everything. Sensionson (talk) 01:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

text: It's CONNERSVILLE dumbass, not Collisville. I don't care what you do with the valuable info I have given you. But others have taken it and have found it to be true. So you can stick it where the sun don't shine. I don't really care. I'm done here. Sensionson (talk) 01:42, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

text: I know alot more about Caleb Blood Smith and the excavation than you do. I was there when Smiths' body was being looked for. I have documents and records. The reason there is a dispute about where he is buried is because after the Civil War the southerners were coming from south to north descrating bodies and his wife Elizabeth was terrified of this so she moved his body and had it buried some other place. No one will ever know where his body is buried. The history books say Connersville, but that's not true. He has a mausolem in Indpls Crown Hill but that was opened in 1977 and only his wife and daughter are there. Some say his body is buried in his old home at Elmhurst in Connersville, but smith lived in Indpls at the time of his death and I can't see anyone asking to come back and bury his body inside the basement of his old home. (as someone else owned the home at that time) There is only speculation and rumor at this time. But I have documents and letters, old news articles and new ones still to this day no one knows where his body is buried. All the info that is online has my name attached to it. I've done years of research only to find no new info on where Smith's body is located. Sensionson (talk) 23:17, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

text: This> https://archive.org/details/WeirdMystery/page/n3/mode/2up and this> https://iucat.iu.edu/catalog/9248091 are the same book if you want to make comparisons Sensionson (talk) 13:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute over burial location