Talk:Henschel Hs 293

message: Under the variant heading this article states that the "Hs 293B was wire guided to prevent jamming; it was never put into production, because jamming was never serious enough to prevent the radio-guided version from being effective", but on the Wire-guided missile page it states that "Wire guidance was first employed by the Germans during World War II. Most of their developments used radio control, but as the British proved to be able to jam anything they used". These statements are clearly contradictory, does any one know which is accurate? Somearemoreequal 17:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Accuracy 

message: Does any one know precisely how the missiles were visually targetted and steered onto the target.From the range  I would have thought it would be impossible to judge the hieght above the see for a start, so did it drop down to a pre determined hieght above the sea?Second, from such long distance, how on earth could the steerer be sure the missile was actually going towards the target? --86.142.2.92 18:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article omits a number of details, but I'd assume that the bombardier would have had control of the bomb from a forward position in the bomber where he had a clear view of the bomb all the way to the target.  If the bomb had a rocket booster, it would accelerate ahead of the bomber, then the bombardier would use the smoke from the flares or marker lights as a visual aid to steer the bomb to the target.  Note that the article currently says the bomber was vulnerable after the drop, as it had to steer a straight course.  This was no doubt for the benefit of the bombardier so he could visually track the bomb.  If the bomb had been equipped with a television camera, this would not have been necessary: All that would have to be done is acquire the target on the television monitor, and once the bombardier had done so, he could have signaled the pilot that it was alright to peel off and leave the area while he continued to steer the bomb by television.—QuicksilverT @ 01:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: How did they do it

message: The article currently states that the HS 293D never was used in combat.  I'm not sure this is true.  I heard a story on a radio broadcast a few years ago that Germany successfully used a television guided glide bomb, perhaps the Hs 293D, in the Mediterranean and sank a fully-loaded Allied troop ship toward the end of World War II.  In order to prevent damage to morale, the incident was classified top secret during the war and for many years thereafter.  Sorry, I can't provide any references at the moment, but it might be worth researching.—QuicksilverT @ 01:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hs 293D 

message: Although this is a cold cycle hydrogen peroxide rocket (often considered as a monopropellant), rather than the hot cycle hydrogen peroxide cycle, where kerosene is added as a fuel, these early German engines are bipropellants. They use T-Stoff as the main propellant, but they decompose this with a mixture of permanganate Z-Stoff, rather than over a non-consumable silver or nickel catalyst. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bipropellant 

message: The (incorrectly named) Kehl-Strasbourg radio control link and almost unsourced article was recently split (undiscussed) from here. It should be restored.  The split improves nothing. The separate topic has no independent existence away from the Hs 293. Coverage of the topic was not improved by this split. Much of the split article covers the electronic countermeasures against it, which only happen in the broader context of the missile. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restore [[Kehl-Strasbourg radio control link|Kehl-Straßburg]] 

message: Hello could someone investigate on connection with the BHT-38 guided bomb guidance system? 
This gliding guided bomb was conceived By Maurice Hurel and Jean Turck and build in France around 1938-1940. Later, in 1943 after his evasion from France Turck was contacted to build jamming devices in London.
Reported in "History of Rocketry and Astronautics, AAS History series Vol 28" pages 76-77 and on a few French sites. Only one picture of the bomb is available, on the same site it is  mentioned that Vichy government sent the bomb design to the Germans but didn't gives any source, note that one other site mention that the SAT facilities in Paris were occupied by the Germans. —mahn94  —Preceding undated comment added 12:45, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guided  bomb BHT-38 

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