Talk:Hong Kong/Archive 1

message: We need a fucking map showing bridges and tunnels, to avoid a wrong impression about the connectedness of the islands with the mainland, or we can edit the map. - Patrick 19:34, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: "(bridges and tunnels not shown)" - what's the point in saying that? It's obvious they aren't shown - just look at it and the absence of brigdes and tunnels is obvious. None of our other maps show bridges or tunnels, why the need to point it out here? CGS 19:47, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  The remark below the map is of course intended for people who do not know that there are bridges or tunnels, and from the map get the wrong impression that there are none (most maps show them). My remark above applies also for Singapore, Denmark and Sweden, perhaps a few more. Surprisingly the CIA map of the UK does show the tunnel. - Patrick 20:08, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)

text: Unprotected, map caption removed. Pete 21:32, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: We currently have:
:Despite the population density, Hong Kong was reported to be one of the greenest cities in Asia. The majority of people live in flats in high-rise buildings. The rest of the open spaces are often covered with parks, woods and shrubs. The vertical placement of the population explains why densely populated, green city is not an oxymoronic phrase. 
Does anyone else think this is somewhat misleading?  If you look at the entire territory of Hong Kong (HK Island + New Territories), then yes, there is a lot of open green space.  But to a visitor standing in typical locations such as Central, Tsim Sha Tsui, Wan Chai, or Yau Ma Tei, there's not much green to be found. Jpo 15:33, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, Jpo. I am a Hong Kong citizen and I've been living here since I was born. When you look around in an urban area, you really can't see much green except in those small Parks (公園) built in the middle of some residential areas. It is true, though, that there are many open green space in the New Territories and the surrounding islands which offer natural habitats for wild life (e.g. Mai Po Marshes Nature Reserve, or 米埔自然護理區), but it is surely misleading if you say there is much green space in the urban area. --Cylauj 15:33, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greenery 

message: Removed the following:
:Although Hong Kong has often been popularly portrayed as an example of a free market economy which operates with minimal government interference, many critics argue this reputation is undeserved arguing that the small business community and both the colonial and SAR governments have intervened heavily in the HK economy, by for example, restricting the sale of land to keep property prices high.
Unless judged in an absolute sense (under which no economy of this world would justify the name free market economy), government intervention by itself should only be regarded as one of the factors in determining how free an economy is relatively.  At least the following reputable source still ranks Hong Kong at the 1st of free market economies - Government intervention has already been taken into account as one of the factors.
Heritage Foundation - Index of Economic Freedom
The following (on the location/history etc of the airport) is not a major economic issue, and the information is already in the relevant articles.
:The major airport, Hong Kong International Airport (HKIA), is located on a partly artificial island connected to Lantau Island.  The airport is often called Chek Lap Kok Airport, after one of the islands it was built upon.  HKIA replaced the older Kai Tak Airport, which was known for its spectacular urban approach.  Kai Tak was retired after Chek Lap Kok was built and now serves as a recreational venue and has been earmarked for housing development.
-Hlaw 15:45, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy 

message: Should we separate it into Official written language and Official spoken language?
: There seems no "official spoken language" / "official written language" as such. Article 9 of Basic Law says that in addition to the Chinese language, English may also be used as an official language by the executive authorities, legislature and judiciary of the HKSAR. -Hlaw 04:11, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Language

message: SchmuckyTheCat added the following: " Many government and administrative operations are located in Central on Hong Kong Island near the historical location of Victoria City, the capital before the adoption of the Basic Law. ". Is there any evidence for saying that the adoption of the Basic Law in 1990 made the City ceased to be the capital? Should it be within rather than near? The limits of the Victoria City is still stated in law. Why is it historical location? The location is still the same. — Instantnood 20:25 Mar 3 2005 (UTC)
*Why before HKBL? The Basic Law basically put an end to the colonial system in preparation for the handover.  The colonial system had political entities for managing, and defining, traditional city sized areas.  Once the Basic Law was in place and the government became unitary with a legislative body and broken up into large districts.  Distinct "cities" ceased to be.Victoria City is a relic, it may be a specific area with the old name, but as a political entity it is a relic.That is also the answer to why it's a historical location. Obviously the area still exists, but the capitol being there is historical. It is also historically interesting in the touristy kind of meaning to "historical". And, I said "near" and not "within" because nothing holds government offices to that area - some departments may even relocate to Kowloon.You ask to prove that establishment of HKBL made VC "cease to be the capital", you are asking to prove a negative.  The HK government has stated, a positive assertion, that the SAR has no capitol. I will not attempt to prove the negative corollary of what made it stop being the capitol. SchmuckyTheCat 21:13, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How does demarcation districts accord them city status? We do not dispute that there may be administrative boundaries within Hong Kong, and is often so in many other cities too, but you are trying to argue that these internal boundaries are city boundaries. This is the assumption I am disputing, and you have yet to proof to us that Hong Kong is indeed composed of multiple independent cities? If we cannot even establish the existance of independent cities within the territory of HK, then how will we be able to determine the continued existance of Victoria City as a seperate capital city today?--Huaiwei 13:53, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Basic Law

message: For most people in Hong Kong the names on official records are written without the hyphen.  — Instantnood 17:49 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
*yes, your valid corrections get lost in the wholesale replacement of articles because of your edit warring.  please stop reverting. SchmuckyTheCat 18:17, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hasent the name already been edited? Meanwhile, didnt he step down yesterday?--Huaiwei 19:11, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: You refering to whether he stepped down or not right? Yeah....we will be waiting for updates. Will be cool if we can update this faster then any other information source out there. :D --Huaiwei 08:56, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tung Chee Hwa

message: You can also use template:Hong Kong infobox.--Jerryseinfeld 23:37, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox