Talk:Arnold Toynbee (historian, born 1852)

message: How utterly considerate of User:69.138.185.228 to provide a warning of "thermonuclear extinction" vintage 1971 from someone who died in 1884. Maybe we should make "read the article before editing" an official policy... --Thorsten1 23:47, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Thermonuclear extinction"... 

message: The McMaster site is no longer available as a source for the text of the lectures.  I've not been able to uncover an alternative source.  Perhaps someone else will have better luck.  User:Noisy | Talk 12:23, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Link for the "Lectures ..."?

message: The "Life and Career" section states "He married Charlotte Atwood, 12 years his senior and a cousin of Harold Davidson, the famous rector of Stiffkey."
However, the "Toynbee genealogy" section indicates that Toynbee married a Rosalind Murray.
An entry for Arnold Toynbee (b.1852 d. 1883) from the Dictionary of National Biography (hosted at Wikisource)https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Toynbee,_Arnold_(DNB00) does name Atwood, saying they married in June 1879.  
I think the issue here is uncle-nephew confusion, compounded by English naming habits and Wiki formatting.  Since the name "Arnold J. Toynbee" is boldfaced in the genealogy section, even though the article is about the uncle Arnold Toynbee (not Arnold J), its easy to get confused as to who the article is about.
While I was at it, I went ahead and verified Arnold J. Toynbee's spouse.  Quick research seems to indicate that a Toynbee did in fact marry Murray. A NYTimes review (published 28 May 1989 and available onlinehttp://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/28/books/the-historian-kept-his-cool.html) of Willy McNeil's biography of Toynbee (ARNOLD J. TOYNBEE.  A Life) names Murray as the wife of Toynbee.  Of course, the Toynbee that Ms. Murray wed is Alfred JOSEPH Toynbee (b.1889 d.1975).
In light of this, I will edit the page to make the correct name boldfaced, per Wiki standards and conventions
Unclebanglin (talk) 17:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictions on his spouse?

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved to Arnold Toynbee (historian, born 1852). Links must be disambiguated before considering a change to a new primary topic. –  wbm1058 (talk) 16:00, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Arnold Toynbee →  – This topic is not PRIMARY for "Arnold Toynbee", as the more famous Arnold J. Toynbee is often referred to without the middle initial (for example, his NYT obituary). Searching Google Scholar, books, or regular search brings up more references to the work of the other Toynbee than this one. Arnold Toynbee should be a dab page listing both. Alternately, I'd also support moving this page to Arnold Toynbee (historian, born 1852). (t · c) buidhe 08:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 11 July 2021