Template talk:TV resolution

message: hi, what do you think, if the template for tv resolution looks like this
:de:Vorlage:Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland (taken from this template: :de:Vorlage:Navigationsleiste_mit_Bild)? so the image of the different resolutions is visable has a link to the bigger version, and the link beneath can be deleted)
:Please fix it to make it look better - I just tried updating it from how I found it. Although, please leave it in english :-). -Mydotnet 04:01, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
::hi, it is just an exampple, how I would like to see the template for tv resolution in the English wikipedia. It is not possible to take the template from the German version an putting it into the English article directly. It is just for a comparision of the tags and sourcecodes, nothing more. I would do it myself, but I am a bad coder :D, greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 17:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

message: I fixed some errors, particularly 720i, and resolutions being devalued due to low frame rate.  It might be better to drop frame rates entirely.  1080i and 1080p don't belong in the same class since there is quite a difference, (even when 1080i signals are deinterlaced.) but I wasn't sure what to call 1080p, so I ended up with "HDTV+".  I'd prefer some title connecting it with 35mm film quality.  Algr 05:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revised 

message: Much discussion is taking place here...
Tvaughan1 20:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerns about the accuracy of the image 

message: hi ho everyone, for me it is not clear which purpose this template has. is it an info box explaing the techniques or a navigation box for linking several articles with it? as far as i know the intention of the initial template was for navigation, but now it seems that this changes to an infobox. please do not make the mistake to use a navi box for explaing, please seperate this! as a user i do not want to understand the displayed facts when just getting to another article. if you want to create an infobox for several articles then you should consider to explain more by using old fashion texts in it. e.g. i do not know if you guys mean by "1:1 PAR", i think it ist 1:1 pixel ascpect ratio, but a newbie does not know that! this should be clearly written and written as an wikilink. whether you want to keep it clear and simple as a navi box should be to get from here to there fastly or you should use more text and more "space". the current middle way of both is not a good compromise. that as an first reaction i will now read the rest of your postings. please give me some time ;). greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 14:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  info box or navigation box? 

message: You'll notice that I've added EDTV and HDV to the image. I have not changed the representation of the 480p box in order to keep the edit non-controversial. The representations I added are differentiated from the standard resolutions by their being displayed at 25% opacity (which indicates that they exist, but are less common). That said, both are still common enough to warrant inclusion and to be helpful to a reader. As a final note regarding HDV, the image displays resolutions at a 1:1 pixel aspect ratio, and the vast majority of HDV is effectively only 1920x1080 with a non-square PAR. Noclip 22:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, there is no such thing as a video signal with 856 horizontal pixels.  By the logic of this chart, (pixel count only) EDTV and SDTV are identical - 720x480 pixels. Also, PAL Edtv (720x576) is probably more common then 480p since Europe isn't producing as much HD as the US.  Finally, the added lines are almost unreadable. Algr 19:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  What are you going on about? I didn't even change PAL or 480p from what you had them as. As for EDTV, for purposes of this chart (and to avoid conflict) 480p and EDTV are different things. If you go into a store and ask for an EDTV projector or TV you will get a device with a native resolution of 854x480, wheras if you ask for an SDTV device you will get one with a resolution of 720x480. It's an awful example, but it's the simplest one I could think of. Noclip 23:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to image 

message: I think it looks better; but the tables were hard to put into the navbox format.  There's a different table for each row now... what do you guys think? atanamir 22:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I migrated this to use Navbox... 

message: The NTSC resolution is currently incorrectly listed as 480 lines. It should be 486 or 525, as there are normally 525 lines in a NTSC image, but only 486 of those are in the visible area. Many NTSC digital capture systems only capture 480 lines, hence the confusion. --Ozhiker (talk) 23:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 480 is the defacto resolution for digitized NTSC - and most everything is digitized these days.  In MPEG or DV, the number of lines in a frame must be evenly divisible by 8 (16 if interlaced) so to get the old analog 486 figure, you would have to digitize 496 pixels.  Since these lines are meant to be off screen anyway (in the overscan area) a slight change to NTSC would be unnoticed on existing sets.  Algr (talk) 17:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect NTSC resolution 

message: Template doesn’t stay hidden, if you revisit the page after closing it, this doesn’t seem right. Looks like it's not saving its 'state' can someone look in to it?
—IncidentFlux (talk) 19:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've set the parameter State to "collapsed" and the contents of this navigation box is hidden by default. It should be much tidier now. --Marianian (talk) 20:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks good! Thank you Marianian —IncidentFlux [ TalkBack | Contributions ] 22:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template doesn’t stay hidden 

message: Should 2160p (Quad Full High Definition) be added to this template? Quad Full High Definition, also known as "QFHD", "Quad HD" and "Quad HDTV" is 3840x2160 is more or less agreed upon to be high-definition TV standard that will someday replace 1080p Gamester17 (talk) 12:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so.  It would make all the rest of the information much smaller, and since Hollywood wants to use their own 4k standard, I'm not sure what the market for 2160p will be.  (I think Hollywood is just being elitist and doesn't want to use any standard with "TV" connections.) Algr (talk) 20:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2160p (Quad Full High Definition) 

message: On my TV horizontaly (longer part) number of RGB colums is 320 and verticaly about 440 rows, so I gues actual TV resolution is 320*480 pixels, instead dreamed 640*480 for xbox/PS2. HDTV may be just nice Antialiasing or by TV itself...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fsahfkagn (talk • contribs) 09:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you counting exactly?  Is this a tube set?  Lower cost sets don't always display everything that the signal could theoretically deliver.  Algr (talk) 19:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  actual TV resolution