Talk:Logos and uniforms of the Kansas City Chiefs

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message: With such minor changes ever being made to the Cheifs' logos and uniforms, I feel that this entire article should be moved to the main Kansas City Chiefs Wikipedia page. Anyone else? JohnnySeoul (talk) 15:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If Chicago Bears logos, uniforms, and mascots and Logos and uniforms of the New York Giants exist, I don't see why not. I think it's best to keep it separate because all the images on the Chiefs' main page makes it look too cluttered. I'm working on trying to get the Chiefs' main page up to a good article status and I'm sure the reviewer will complain if we have all the images merged to the main page. conman33 (. . .talk) 19:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I'd tend to agree - I don't really see the need for this page.  Surely it could be incorporated into the main page in such a way as to add to, not subtract from, the quality of that page.  SixFourThree (talk) 17:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this page really needed? 

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message: There is no support for the claim that the black jersey is an on-field alternate.  Placing quotes around the word "alternate" doesn't improve matters any.  SixFourThree (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where was it mentioned as an "on-field"? Its just an official alternate jersey, regardless if its worn on the field or in the stands. The Kansas City Chiefs' Public Relations confirmed it (816)920-9300. I create all versions on NFL jerseys (present, past, and alternate).  JohnnySeoul (talk) 22:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Will you also include the pink jerseys sold?  How about the yellow ones, or the ones in futuristic patterns?  Those are also sold to fans.  I'm sorry, but even if true it's not a reliable, third-party, published source.  Please don't take the tag out again until somebody can provide one.  For what it's worth, I include myself in that - I'm looking, too.  This isn't about singling you out, it's about maintaining our standards to avoid spreading inaccurate information.  SixFourThree (talk) 18:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think, to avoid an edit war, we need to start developing consensus here before anybody either removes the tag again or removes the image altogether.  SixFourThree (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that you are the only one with a problem. If the Public Relations department for the Kansas City Chiefs says its an official alternate jersey to be worn by the fans, than its an OFFICIAL ALTERNATE JERSEY....end of discussion. The PR department are the ones that have the exact answer. Second, the Official Chiefs Pro Shop is the official shop of the KC Chiefs....the only alernate jersey you can purchase on there is the BLACK alternate jersey. That is the OFFICIAL shop!! Get over yourself, SixFourThree. JohnnySeoul (talk) 22:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is the link from the OFFICIAL Kansas City Chiefs website.  **IMPORTANT NOTE: You will notice that the black jersey is the ONLY jersey listed as the official alternate jeresy....regardless if its a replica or not. This is the official alternate jersey for the fans. Show me another jersey listed on the OFFICIAL Kansas City Chiefs pro shop that is listed as an alternate jersey and you have a legit arguement. But this link in conjunction with the PR department trump all. Good day. JohnnySeoul (talk) 23:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  First, I am not the only one who has challenged the inclusion here.  Second, if you're going to cite that shop link, then the jersey should be identified as "alternate replica" since nowhere on that site is it listed as a team authentic.  SixFourThree (talk) 17:02, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

text: If you want, you can include it, but we just need wording that's good for everyone. What must be included is "the Kansas City Chiefs have never worn the jersey." I am a Chiefs fan. I live in Kansas City. I've been to at least 70 games for the past 12 years and watched this team my entire life. The only jerseys they wear are red jersey with white pants, white jersey with red pants, and all white uniforms. Proof of the all-white uniforms come in the Chiefs' 2007 playoff game against Indianapolis, and the September 2006 game where Trent Green was injured. They were Lamar Hunt's favorite jerseys. These black jerseys are barely seen ANYWHERE besides discount clothing racks. The team had plans once to have a gold/yellow top, but those plans were scrapped because like all-black uniforms, it would be a hassle to players to wear them in Kansas City's atmosphere and temperature because it's pretty damn hot here sometimes. Like SixFourThree said, you should note in the article that the black jersey is a team replica jersey sold for merchandise only. It has never been worn by the Chiefs as an authentic jersey in any NFL football game. conman33 (. . .talk) 21:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At that point, I'm not sure it would meet the notability criteria.  And conman, if you can source the plans for a on-field gold jersey, I'd be really interested in including a reference to it.  SixFourThree (talk) 20:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've actually looked for it in the past, but no luck. I remember it being in the Kansas City Star like 8 years ago, but they have a really crappy website database and have lost links all over the place. conman33 (. . .talk) 02:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Shame.  Well, we'll keep looking - maybe something will turn up.  Until then, let's figure out what to do with this black fashion jersey graphic.  SixFourThree (talk) 15:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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