Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anglicanism/Archive 2

message: I've started managing this again.  Your nominations are most welcome.  I'll roll over the previous ones, and would invite you all to vote on them. Fishhead64 02:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaborations of the Month

message: The collaboration for January is Scottish Episcopal Church.  Please feel encouraged to contribute to it and to related articles.  Nominations and voting for February's COTM are now open. Fishhead64 07:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: January

message: Get your votes in!  So far, there are two nominations and NO votes. Fishhead64 21:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: February

message: ===New Articles===
I went through the New articles section and either moved the entries to the Articles for Improvement section or removed the entry if I thought the existingarticle was presentable. Those who disagree are welcome to add the removed ones back. -- Bpmullins | Talk 22:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no opinion right now about McIlvaine, but Philander Chase is one of the most notable bishops in the history of ECUSA. I'll see if I've got some documentation handy and add it to the article. -- Bpmullins | Talk 02:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I wrote an article evaluating the ARCIC report, so I'll have a gander when I get a chance.  Cheers! Fishhead64 05:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles

message: I went through the New articles section and either moved the entries to the Articles for Improvement section or removed the entry if I thought the existingarticle was presentable. Those who disagree are welcome to add the removed ones back. -- Bpmullins | Talk 22:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Articles

message: As further described in the 'Categories' and 'Naming Conventions' sections above, I have recently viewed a large number of articles describing English churches.  The majority of these are (presumably) part of the Church of England, yet I find them described randomly as either Anglican or Church of England, or even, in at least one case: Anglican! 
I had never really considered this carefully before, and like many people, used the terms interchangeably.  But I need some guidance for the correct usage here. What should the correct terminology be?  Would "Anglican (Church of England)" be a good way of describing these churches consistently?
Incidentally, St John the Baptist, Egglescliffe shows an example of the under-utilised but potentially useful info box for use with Church of England churches. (see Template:Parish church).
Another possibly useful template is Template:Infobox church, although this requires more architectural knowledge.
EdJogg 14:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Church (Building) Articles 

message: Yesterday, a driveby anonymous IP expanded Philander Chase from a stub into a short biography.  Worth a read. Meanwhile,  created a brief stub for his successor, Charles Pettit McIlvaine.  I have not put bishop infoboxes on them,  because arguably they are more noted for other roles (I don't think they drew salaries as bishops.)  --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no opinion right now about McIlvaine, but Philander Chase is one of the most notable bishops in the history of ECUSA. I'll see if I've got some documentation handy and add it to the article. -- Bpmullins | Talk 02:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ECUSA bishops [[Philander Chase]] and [[Charles Pettit McIlvaine]]

message: This is tagged as part of this project, but from what I see it hardly represents an Anglican perspective at all. Instead, it seems to have been overrun by someone's personal categorization of evangelical views. Any help would be appreciated. Mangoe 18:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need help with [[Christian views of marriage]] 

message: Dean of York and dean of Canterbury - 2 lists in urgent need of attention, most likely from this project. Neddyseagoon - talk 20:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Dean of York]]

message: I have added an article for W. P. DuBose.  Would someone mind dropping by and adding categories, and maybe something specifically about DuBose's theology?
Thanks,  Pastordavid 18:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[William Porcher DuBose]]

message: I started this article just the other day and I'm kinda stuck. Is there anyone with more information on just "what" we think about the Virgin Mary and her place in the Communion?Lord Balin 02:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote an article evaluating the ARCIC report, so I'll have a gander when I get a chance.  Cheers! Fishhead64 05:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Anglican Marian theology]]

message: I've overhauled the templates for The Archbishops of York, Canterbury and the Bishop of Durham. They're now collapsible, since for some (e.g. Michael Ramsey) they were taking over the page... PMJ 17:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Templates

message: The current organization there is abit muddled, and needs some discussing how to deal with. A general proposal for cleaning it up is posted at Category talk:Religious leaders#Organization proposal, and more input would be great. It doesn't address the issue of Religious leaders/religious workers/religious figures, but that is another issue that exists. Badbilltucker 22:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Religious leaders]] 

message: Sorry, I took a bot of a Wikibreak, but I am back and ready to put nose to the grindstone.  Cheers!  Fishhead64 00:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeedly-do!  Give me some time to get my Christmas baking done first, though!  Fishhead64 18:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Back!!

message: On the article's talk page, the reviewer noted that there are very few references for such a long article, and has placed the article's nomination on hold. Anyone who can add references to the article to satisfy the reviewer's request would be greatly appreciated. Badbilltucker 17:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I performed a substantial revision of the article back in June, I'd be happy to cite references.  I'll get on it over Christmas.  Fishhead64 18:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anglicanism]] article currently an on hold GA nominee 

message: Could I drum up any support for improving this?  Particularly anyone who lives near the Minster and can consult/upload a better list from there. Neddyseagoon - talk 15:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Dean of York]]

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: The group indicated above was recently revitalized for, among other things, the purpose of working on those articles whose content is such that the article does not fall within the scope of any particular denomination. To most effectively do this, however, we would benefit greatly if there were at least one member from this Project working on those articles. On that basis, I would encourage and welcome any member of this Project willing to work on those articles to join the Religion WikiProject. Thank you. Badbilltucker 14:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:RELIGION|WikiProject Religion]] 

message: I recently found that our article on Jesus is the first page that appears when anyone does a Google search of the subject. It is currently, regrettably, only at GA status. On that basis, I would request any individuals who might be interested in helping to bring this article up to FA status to indicate their support for the article being chosen as the AID article at Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive#Jesus. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jesus]] nominated for [[WP:AID|Article Improvement Drive]] 

message: The article Archbishop of Canterbury currently reads ""The Archbishop of Canterbury is the head of the Church of England and of the worldwide Anglican Communion" Is *head* the right word here?".
Is 'head' the right word here? And should the same word be used of the CofE and the AC? 'Head' can have an important theological meaning, and I just wonder if it is really a term that the Bishop would use. RCs sometimes refer to the pope as the 'head' of the Church, a claim that Protestants have generally objected to ('the head is Christ'), I didn't think it is a title that Canterbury would use, but I don't really know. --Docg 21:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a little imprecise, if nothing else.  More accurately, he is the Primate or presiding bishop of the Church of England, and spiritual leader of the Anglican Communion.  I'll go make the fix, if it hasn't been done already. Fishhead64 00:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head? 

message: Hello. User:Wighson has been going around various Anglican pages adding this link to a privately created google co-op search page called "Anglican Search." Needless to say, random links to search engines don't belong on Wikipedia pages; and a cursory glance shows that obviously this search engine really offers nothing special that regular google doesn't. Those alone are reasons to remove the link; but furthermore note that the creator of this so-called "Anglican search" has made the Anglican Communion Network a featured link, thus promoting it to the top of the list (clear POV); and furthermore may have a financial stake in the matter. (I quote from the Google Co-op description page: "Harness the power of Google search technology to create a free Custom Search Engine that reflects your knowledge and interests - and make money from the resulting traffic.") Please keep an eye peeled for attempts to push this patently and blatantly un-wikipedian link onto articles. Doops |  talk 07:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  inappropriate links 

message: I've been playing with the  template, so that it is now possible to identify and assess articles from the talk page rather than from Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglicanism/Assessment. The design is here, basically the same as all of the other WikiProject templates. Should I replace the current template? PMJ 21:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good!  I vote yes. Fishhead64 02:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|anglicanismproject}} 

message: In the article Priest, User:HarvardOxon, insists that the following is accurate:  
"Roman Catholic, Orthodox and a small minority of Anglican Christians who reject traditional interpretations of Anglican theology [citation needed], therefore, believe that priests and bishops share in the one priesthood of Christ through the sacrament of Holy Orders, and are empowered to offer the one sacrifice of Jesus in the Eucharist which, as Hebrews says, is offered "once for all," being identical with the very sacrifice of the Cross: the Mass, or Divine Liturgy, as the eucharistic celebration is known, is therefore literally a re-presentation (making present again) of Christ's single sacrifice, according to this theology."
(emphasis added)
While certainly some Anglicans would reject this understanding of priesthood, would not many, if not most, Anglicans basically accept it?  I would appreciate your comments here:  Talk:Priest#Anglican_theology_of_priesthood.  --Midnite Critic 02:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theology of Priesthood 

message: I've had a go at sorting out the project page, since I thought it was getting a bit cluttered - first draft here. Shameless rip-off of the Eastern Orthodox project, but hey... PMJ 17:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to be bold and go ahead... feel free to revert! PMJ 15:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This is a great improvement over my original design! Thanks, PMJ! Fishhead64 16:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglicanism project page