Talk:Diebold Nixdorf

message: What about this information???... who eliminated it???... why is it not included in here as it is quite fundamental regarding this company???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.14.44.23 (talk) 16:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Diebold Loses Key Copyright Case

message: Don't think that there's any basis for stating there's a discrepancy to be honest. Someone would have to do some serious investigation work to prove it anyway. Ironically, this part of the article was actually removed before I could remove it. --24.61.183.36 (talk) 04:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NH Primary

message: How 'bout this latest news:  Diebold has a single key design that opens every voting machine, and they posted a picture of the key on their own site.  The key can be, and was, duplicated from that photo, and as has been proven by Princeton, all a hacker needs is 60 seconds with an open machine to infect it, and all connected machines, with a virus.  and 
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Question: How wide spread is the use of diebold voting machines? Anyone have info on this?
I have seen them as far away as small ferry ports in Thailand, 
The following quotes are really flamebait.  
:I don't see what makes them flamebait or why they should all be deleted. They are certainly shocking and funny (in a dark sort of way) but so what? They are accurate, pertinent and revealing. I'd like to see at least a few of them go back, perhaps in a new section near the end like "Quotations from Internal Diebold Documents" --LeeHunter 00:37, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: “[I am] committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President next year.” Walden O'Dell, CEO of Diebold, in mid-2003 invitation to Republican fundraiser at his home in September 142.177.168.90 17:27, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Old messages

message: Smuj added :
:In a fundraising letter to Republicans, Walden O'Dell wrote he was, "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president [G.W.Bush]."
While this is true, it shouldn't just be stuck at the top of the article like it was.  --Whosyourjudas (talk) 02:02, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  from article 

message: From the article:
:The term "black box voting" was coined to describe machines that, like those made by Diebold, use closed source software, do not print paper ballots, and do not use any reliable digital authentication techniques.
Who coined it? -- Bruno Latour (1987) uses the term "blackboxing" (as one word) to describe the process of obscuring the process of knowledge making.
:Some experts claim that this structure is easily compromised...
Which experts?
I urge anyone who can answer these questions to do so, in order to Wikipedia:Avoid weasel terms. Graue 23:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for noticing that. I replaced it with a different link to the same article. -Willmcw 17:54, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passive voice etc 

message: Any connection to the Diebold Corporation in Ohio that Eliot Ness was chairman of after Capone was nabbed? -Fuzzy 20:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. I see the brief mention up top of them manufacturing vaults. I lost it in the massive tide of voting controversy. -Fuzzy 20:37, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diebold safes? 

message: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Diebold_CEO_resigns_after_reports_of_1212.html
--grazon 21:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diebold CEO leaves (someone add this please) 

message: If you look at Diebold's Q1 '05 SEC filing, you'll observe that election systems are about 2.4% of Diebold's global sales revenue.
It might be worthwhile to put this surprising tidbit in the article.
Cite: 
Excerpt from Q1 '05 SEC filing:
Revenue Summary by Products and Services
    
         
    
                                           For the quarter ended
                                                 March 31:
    
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                                                   2005      2004
    
                                          ------------- ---------
  Financial self-service:
  Products                                    $ 173,347 $ 154,262
  Services                                      215,156   207,495
    
                                          ------------- ---------
  Total financial self-service                  388,503   361,757
  Security:
  Products                                       62,535    57,415
  Services                                       83,340    64,210
    
                                          ------------- ---------
  Total security                                145,875   121,625
    
                                          ------------- ---------
  Total financial self-service  security       534,378   483,382
  Election systems                                5,856    14,873
    
                                          ------------- ---------
  Total Revenue                               $ 540,234 $ 498,255  
Cite: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/sec?s=dbd&partner=mf -> Click on 5-May-05	10-Q	Quarterly Report Full Filing at EDGAR
: Please note that this section was added by what seems to be a Diebold-owned machine.  If you look at contributions of this IP, you'll notice deletion of sections critical of the company, and a wholesale page replacement.  I find this data highly suspect-  I'm certain yearly sales or even 4-year sales of election systems would not be proportionate to this "surprising tidbit".  Election system contracts may not be closed every quarter, which could explain this particular figure.  That, and Diebold wouldn't be the first company (or least likely) to cook their books.  What was the "contributor" trying to pull here, and can we remove this section?  MJKazin 18:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no prohibition on company employees posting material on article talk pages. The above material is publicly available and is audited. Let's not go overboard.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 18:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice The Relative Financial Importance of Election Systems to Diebold 

message: A while back I corrected the location of the Diebold headquarters in this article, changing it from North Canton to Green.  Today it was changed back, with a reference to Diebold's own web page.  I'll explain why I changed it to Green.  The address for the headquarters on the web page is 
Diebold World Headquarters
Canton, Ohio, USA
5995 Mayfair Road
North Canton, OH 44720
This appears to indicate that the headquarters is in North Canton.  I looked up the address in maps.google.com, though, and found that the location is just north of Mt. Pleasant Rd.  Unfortunately I can't find an online map with boundaries, but I looked in my Commercial Survey map of Akron, Summit and Portage Counties and found that Mt. Pleasant Road forms the boundary between Summit and Stark counties, with Green being to the north and Jackson Township to the south. North Canton is south of that line.  In fact, the road is only called Mayfair in Green.  It is called Pittsburg Rd. south south of Mt. Pleasant.  What happened was that Green is only recently a city, and before that it was served by a variety of post offices outside of its boundaries.  This area is served by the North Canton post office, but the headquarters physically resides in Green.  --Beirne 00:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's the headquarters 

message: The See Also lines include reference to John Diebold and Choicepoint.
Is John Diebold the business management expert from the same family that founded the Diebold, Inc. in this article?
I spent 15 minutes Googling and found no direct link mentioned between the two. One article discussed Diebold voting machines and John Diebold together, but did not establish a direct relationship. It makes sense to have a link to him in any case to steer the misdirected, I suppose, but it might make sense to have a disclaimer if there isn't a relationship, lest we confuse someone.
Choicepoint does come up in discussions of voting irregularities, etc. Perhaps the Choicepoint link belongs on the Diebold Election Systems page?
: I agree. The John Diebold of the article seems to have had nothing to do with the subject of this article. Choicepoint is only tangentially related to DES, as part of the election-related controversy even though they do not make voting systems. -Willmcw 05:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What a strange coincidence. John Diebold apparently was an early supporter of automated teller machines, so I assumed there was a link. Captain Zyrain 18:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why John Diebold and Choicepoint in the article? 

message: I'm the one who's been putting each new Diebold outrage into the Security Concerns section - so believe me that I'm on your side in this issue. But what's been added is not directly relevant to Diebold [and Soapboxing as well, to be perfectly frank - however much I agree with it], so it really can't stay. I would suggest putting that kind of material into Electronic_voting#Opposition_to_Electronic_Voting. Ribonucleic 00:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The material on the voting belongs in Diebold Election Systems. This article is devoted to the much larger parent company. -Will Beback 04:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of electronic voting additions from Jklappenbach 

message: Not sure if this is the right article for it, but ABC News has an article  on electronic voting and come security concerns. An interesting quote from a computer security expert:
* Diebold's "system is utterly unsecured. The entire cyber-security community is begging them to come back to reality and secure our nation's voting."
If the concerns are really that serious then I think the article needs to reflect this.
:No, this is not the right article. You want Diebold Election Systems. -Will Beback 03:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC News on security concerns 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Diebold logo.png

message: And this might be the latest effort by Diebold/CIA:
{Also that same month, Diebold was at the center of a scandal involving Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's victory in the Iowa Straw Poll. In that non-binding poll, it has been reported that at least one Diebold machine has failed resulting in a recount that delayed results.www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/120807Diebold.htm Other information suggests that the reason why the machine "malfunctioned" was to keep candidate Ron Paul from gaining in the polls where an outright victory would lend credibility to his campaign.http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/140807Poll.htm Meanwhile, an Iowa Independent article points out that Rommey has joked about cheating to win the straw poll.http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=755}
All the above talks about is the questionable result of the Iowa Straw Poll and it even includes references.208.107.168.154 17:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Conspiracy theory

message: *In August 2007, Wikipedia Scanner found that edits via the company's IP addresses occurred to Diebold's Wikipedia article, removing criticisms of the company's products, references to its CEO's fund-raising for President Bush and other negative criticism from the Wikipedia page about the company in November 2005.Elsworth,Catherine. "Wikipedia Sleuth's tool reveals entry fiddling." Telegraph. April 16, 2007. 
An editor removed this material with the comment, don't crucify them just because they removed stuff from the project. Editors should read the previous discussion on this page. The controversies over conflict of interest editing that was revealed by WikiScanner is covered on many relevant pages. This article should be treat in a consistent manner with other articles. While we only cite one media reference here, as I recall it made the news in many outlets. There is no requirement that incidents be the main topic of a news story in order to be reported here.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But it cannot actually be considered newsworthy because it had one or two lines in a news report. What was the reasoning for it being added to every other article on that list? How is it even notable? It seems to disparge the subject further, showing that they're more untrustworthy than they actually are. No one can verify the person was acting on behalf of the company in any of the subjects that the Wikiscanner incidents are linked to. Its all about proof, and what can be proven. Maybe this issue needs to be taken somewhere else for a third opinion. Metagraph  comment 04:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read the contents of this page? This has been discussed several times before. One person even claimed to have been responsible for some of the edits and apologizes. The bare facts, which are what we report, are verifiable. The notability is demonstrated by the fact that the press covered it. It doesn't have to be a ten page spread. It is factual, neutrally presented, and verifiable. It meets all the requirements of Wikipedia. If you'd like to get more opinions that's fine.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

text: That Telegraph article is only one of many on the topic. See also "See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign". In that case, it made the headline. See also this list of articles that mention the matter: . I don't think it's an insignificant incident.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiScanner 

message: 'Hacking Democracy', the HBO democracy, extensively covers Diebold's lies and the voter machine corruption and ability to be hacked--thus changes the votes without any proof it was done. I strongly believe it should be added to this article under controversy. I will try to when I have more time, but if anyone wants to--that would be nice. It's on HBO OnDemand. —Christopher Mann McKaytalk 00:18, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's related to voting machines then it belongs in the article on the voting machines division, Premier Election Solutions. That article has a couple of sentences about the documentary, but I'm sure there's room for improvement.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hacking Democracy

message: An editor added this material.
*In December 2008, it was found that a Diebold white paper, "Diebold White Paper ATM Fraud & Security", on ATM fraud and security substantially used content from the Wikipedia ATM article, including at least three photographs under the Creative Commons license without proper attribution and copyleft licensing.
If I'm not mistaken, this is original research unless we have a source which makes this assertion. I've removed it until this is covered by a 3rd party.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 07:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  " Wikipedia images stolen)" 

message: As I explained on my User talk page, I am a Diebold employee working in the corporate communications department.  I am in the process of proposing edits to Diebold's article page that are factual in nature and correct outdated or inaccurate information currently in Diebold's article.  I propose correcting Diebold's founding date, which is in the right-hand blue callout box.  The current date listed on the article page is August 1859.  However, in 2009 Diebold celebrated its 150th anniversary, and through research we found that there is no record of the exact month Diebold was founded.  We just know that it was founded in the year 1859.  So I propose and ask for the removal of "August" and just leave it as "1859."  For further reference, here is a link to an article explaining the timeline of Diebold's founding: http://www.diebold.com/150/featurestories_1859.htm.  I will await feedback from anyone about correcting this date. Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As there have been no objections, go ahead. JohnCD (talk) 21:01, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you, JohnCD.  I have made this change to the Diebold entry. Rebekah Boyd (talk) 22:05, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding date change in call out box 

message: I propose that in the "Area served" section in the call out box that public libraries be removed from this section.  Diebold does not actively serve public libraries today.  For further reference, here is a brief overview on Diebold's website explaining the business: http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/overview.htm.  I look forward to any feedback on this proposed change.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here, no problem, make the change. JohnCD (talk) 21:01, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you again, JohnCD.  I have made this edit to the Diebold entry. Rebekah Boyd (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Area served" in call out box 

message: A correction is needed for the "Key People" section in the call out box.  Sean Forrester's name should be removed, as he is no longer CIO at Diebold.  I propose to remove his name.  I would recommend and propose possibly adding the names of other key people at Diebold.  They are as follows: Bradley C. Richardson, Executive Vice President and CFO; James Chen, Executive Vice President, International Operations; Charles E. Ducey, Jr., Executive Vice President, North America Operations; and George S. Mayes, Jr., Executive Vice President, Global Operations.  Here is Diebold's Leadership Team page for reference: http://www.news.diebold.com/leadership-team/.  I will await feedback on this proposed change.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Key People" section in call out box 

message: In the "Products" section in the call out box, I propose to change the section title to "Products and Services."  Diebold not  only sells products and solutions, but is a services provider as well-- http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/overview.htm.  Services is an integral part of Diebold today and moving forward.  I also propose to add "outsourcing services" to the list of products and services, as this phrase describes the services Diebold provides.  Other weblinks explaining Diebold's services business can be found at: https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0004.htm and https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0005.htm.  I would welcome any feedback on how to appropriately update this section of the article.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They do not sell "solutions"! The use of the term "solutions" in this kind of article is a very ugly clue that promotion is going on. You may sell software, or services, or hardware; but "solutions" should refer to solutes dissolved in a solvent, or to the answer to a mathematical equation. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 14:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I am not proposing that the term "solutions" be added to the Diebold article.  When I used that term in my original proposal above, I did not mean to confuse or to infer that I would like this term to be added.  I am simply proposing that the section title be changed to "Products and Services"-- to reflect the fact that Diebold is a services provider.  And then I am proposing that the term "outsourcing services" be added to the list of products and services Diebold sells.  Diebold's services business accounts for more than 50% of Diebold's revenue... see link in 2009 Annual Report, which states this: https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0011.htm.  The fact that Diebold sells services is not currently reflected in the call out box.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 15:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Products" section in call out box 

message: Currently, Procomp Industria Eletronica S.A. is listed as a subsidiary of Diebold.  However, this is not the only subsidiary Diebold has.  Because Diebold has many subsidiaries-- too many to list in the call out box-- I would recommend/propose either linking to the following weblinks from our 2009 Annual Report, which list all of Diebold's current subsidiaries: https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0112.htm, https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0113.htm, https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0114.htm, https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0115.htm, https://materials.proxyvote.com/Approved/253651/20100301/AR_54610/HTML2/diebold-ar2009_0116.htm.  Or I would recommend removing this section from the call out box altogether.  I will await feedback on this proposed change.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Subsidiaries" section in call out box 

message: Currently in the first sentence, Diebold is described as "a United States-based security systems corporation."  This description is not completely accurate as security is not the only business of Diebold.  I propose the phrase in the first sentence be changed to "a United States-based financial self-service, security solutions and services corporation," as this description seems to more accurately reflect Diebold's offerings as a whole.  For further reference of Diebold's business offering descriptions, you can visit: http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/overview.htm.  I look forward to feedback on this proposed change. Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As there have been no objections, you may go ahead and make this change. JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence change / description of company 

message: The beginning of this section is currently written in present tense.  Because Diebold has sold this business, I would propose this section be updated and written in past tense. For example, "Premier Election Solutions, formerly Diebold Election Systems, was a subsidiary of Diebold and was their smallest business segment..."  Again, I will await feedback on this proposed change.  Rebekah Boyd (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As above: go ahead. Thank you for asking first. JohnCD (talk) 20:58, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Premier Election Solutions 

message: Please create either a redirect article "Diebold Nixdorf" to "Diebold"
or rename "Diebold" to "Diebold Nixdorf"
or better create a new article "Diebold Nixdorf" as you may find at least in the German Wikipedia https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold_Nixdorf 
with respect to the recent company, where a link to the existing "Diebold" article should be included.
Thus tense has to be changed from "is" to "was".
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wincor_Nixdorf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.115.65.8 (talk) 08:38, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corporate merger Diebold Nixdorf 

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message: security searcher have tested diebold accubasic: https://web.archive.org/web/20180904092342/https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/forms/security_diebold_accubasic.pdf i dont know the license but its solid verification  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuxun (talk • contribs) 16:09, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  security searcher have tested diebold accubasic 

message: It is no longer in the Akron-Canton area per main website:
https://www.dieboldnixdorf.com/en-us/about-us/global-locations/
which states:
Hudson
50 Executive Pkwy
Hudson, OH 44236
United States
Suggest editing article to say it's in Hudson, possibly noting that Hudson is a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. 97.80.137.52 (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diebold moved to Hudson, OH