Template talk:S-rel

message: Following the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Succession Box Standardization (WT:SBS#Catholic or Roman Catholic?), I ask for the header produced by the "ca" parameter to change from Catholic Church titles to Roman Catholic Church titles. Waltham, The Duke of 16:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy‑melon 16:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, please change the colour indicated to the standard "gold" for Catholic templates. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure where the request applies, but adjusting to gold colour in the template would still be a good idea in accordance with other similar, relevant templates. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:19, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

text: These templates are used for many non-Catholic titles. tahc chat 14:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change of title for Catholic Church titles 

message: Please update  with . Per Wikipedia:Template documentation/List Thankyou. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ•  @ 06:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. – Luna Santin (talk) 08:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Fixed, was a broken signature. stwalkerster (talk) 11:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: : asked above but I did not then answer: I do have a plan to migrate the parameters. I am drawing up lists of all the pages in :Category:Pages using S-rel template with or parameter-- one list for the Eastern Orthodox bishops, one for the Oriental Orthodox bishops, one for the Chalcedonian bishops, and so forth. Then I will request at Wikipedia:Bot requests that a bot be used to convert the Template:s-rel on the lists as needed. Short lists I will do by hand. If anyone thinks certain ones may be controversial, I will do those by hand. In edits done by the bot I will ask for the edit summary to point back to this page. The list should be ready soon. tahc chat 02:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now posted at Template talk:S-rel/oc lists the proposed lists I put together on which pages to re-code by bot the as which for pages currently coded with the "oc" parameter. It should be much more clear than that sounds.  tahc chat 04:43, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for setting this up! It looks like a great plan, and, after a cursory glance at the lists, I don't see anything that jumps out as controversial. However, we're going to need to migrate some Catholic titles to Chalcedonian and Great Church, too. Ohff (talk) 21:38, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Yes I agree, but this is a plan to deal specifically with the "oc" parameter. I would like to deal with the "ca" parameter on early bishops separately for now. tahc chat 23:00, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Since User:Thine Antique Pen moved them all by hand, it would seem it too small a mater to set-up and wait for a bot to do it. I propose we now remove the "oc" parameter from the template entirely. tahc chat 22:45, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: A huge thank you to User:Thine Antique Pen for doing all that work! I agree with removing the "oc" parameter from the template at this time, since it is fully deprecated. Also, we can delete :Category:Pages using S-rel template with or parameter, since it is no longer necessary. Ohff (talk) 20:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

text: I've removed the TPER template, as all current requests appear to have been addressed. Feel free to add back in above new requests if needed! Mdann52 (talk) 17:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please now remove the "oc" parameter from the template entirely. This has not been done. tahc chat 18:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done for now: (Didn't you mean the "or" parameter?)  It would be better to wait before any more edits are performed to this template.  Others are chiming in below with what appear to be challenges to recent changes, so please resolve this and reach consensus before using the  template for any further edits. Be prosperous! Paine  05:59, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: plan to migrate the parameters at [[Template talk:S-rel/oc lists]]

message: Sorry, I didn't intend to open a can of worms!  I appreciate all the thought that has gone into this, you are clearly an intelligent bunch. Discussing Byzantine history and hagiography with westerners is one of my favourite things. Here's my question now.  When I look at an article on say St Paul I of Constantinople, I see a box at the bottom of the article titled "Titles of the Great Christian Church".  When I look at say Metholdius I of Constantinople I see Titles of Chalcedonian Christianity.  And I ask myself, why did someone go the effort of putting these here? What are these phrases in these boxes supposed to add to the article?  I don't mean that sarcastically or rhetorically, but as someone coming to the article, I say to myself "I see they put it here, it must be important, but I don't see it".
:Chalcedonian Christianity is a term referring to Christian denominations adhering to the Definition of Chalcedon. The Chalcedonian Definition of was adopted in 451, so to call Paul I of Constantinople part of Chalcedonian Christianity would be anachronistic. 
:The succession boxes normally have a header templates with each one, so that people know what kind of title is listed. It could be a basic as "Religious titles"-- but would normally say something about what sort of body the title is of/with/for, like "Titles in Lutheranism". You could say (if you want) it is a not worth all this effort, but at this point to leave out the information makes it look like we don't know the information. Editors would almost certainly come along and put some text there to say something, because they have them everywhere else and it seems easy to fill in. tahc chat 04:05, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: can of worms!