Talk:List of timelines in fiction

message: Okay, I just started this list. I don't know how to begin filling it out very quickly, so any help is greatly appreciated! Simões (talk/contribs) 04:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As luck would have it, there is a :Category:Fictional timelines. Simões (talk/contribs) 20:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List underway 

message: I thought lists were supposed to list Wikipedia Articles on the subject.  Hence, no red links, right? Maratanos 21:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Red links

message: I created the (u) notation in order to prevent every single list item from beginning with "Timeline of..." I'm not confident that this is the best way to do it, so if anyone thinks they might have a better scheme, offer it up! Simões (talk/contribs) 04:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: (u) notation

message: I made a few new redirects with titles of fictional universe articles that I think may exist sometime in the future. Thus, some wikilinks to a universe will just redirect to the main article on the fictional work or corpus. This is intentional. Simões (talk/contribs) 20:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New redirects 

message: These sorts of lists need a detailed explanation of criteria for inclusion, because right now, any work of fiction qualifies for this list. It could also use an explanation of how this list is useful and serves s purpose. Dstanfor 16:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The limiting factor for this list (as stated in the introduction) is that there needs to be a timeline article for the fictional work.  This, in turn, would entail the fictional work having an article. For any of this to be the case, the fictional work needs to meet notability criteria (or it will get deleted). Like any list, it's an organizational tool (and this particular list also includes links to the articles on the fictional universes of timelines), so I'm not sure what you mean by an explanation of how this list, in particular, is "useful." Simões (talk/contribs) 18:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How did Everquest end up on the list? Its set on the world of Norrath (which is not Earth) which was created by Veeshan. At no point does Earth timeline/universe shows up or intersects in the Everquest timeline. This illustrates how useless this list is. Just about anything can be listed and no one who is not already familiar with the listed item would know if it was fake or true. --Eqdoktor 22:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says nothing about whether the events of a fictional timeline occur on Earth. And I'm not sure what you mean by saying "no one who is not already familiar with the listed item would know if it was fake or true." None of them are true. They're fictional timelines. Simões (talk/contribs) 22:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Help me understand. You are saying every fictional universe qualifies to be on this list? What is the criteria to be excluded from this list? --Eqdoktor 22:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm saying every fictional universe with an article on the timeline gets included. Naturally, fictional universes with no timeline articles get excluded. The effect of this is a relatively thin list in comparison with the actual amount of notable fictional universes created (and even in comparison with the actual amount of notable fictional universes created that have articles written on them). Simões (talk/contribs) 22:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, got it. May I suggest you rewrite the introduction of the article based on what you explained here. --Eqdoktor 23:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  unencyclopedic 

message: This article was created as an alternative to the following:
*Timeline of fictional events (now redirects to here)
*Timeline of fictional historical events (deleted)
*Timeline of fictional contemporary events (now redirects to here)
*Timeline of fictional future events (now redirects to here)
Basically, these articles were every event of every fictional timeline merged into one "chronology." List of fictional historical events was deleted via WP:AFD discussion (nominated by me: see the discussion for more details) for what might seem obvious: such lists are indiscriminate and potentially infinite in length. This list has the virtue of merely linking to individual articles presenting fictional timelines. As noted in the article introduction, there is a limiting factor on inclusion: someone has to write up a separate article on a notable fictional work's timeline. Simões (talk/contribs) 22:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, so if there is an article "timeline of fictional story X" than it get's linked to on this list. Otherwise it doesn't. Got it. Now, what does this list provide that the catagory "fictional universe timelines" does not? Dstanfor 22:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Mainly the annotation. The purpose of it is to give context to each timeline by providing a brief description and pointing to the fictional universe and the fictional work. See WP:CLS and compare this article with, e.g., List of logicians. Simões (talk/contribs) 23:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  your annotation is the same information that someone will find through clicking on the timelines from the category box. It's still not clear to me that this way of organizing this data is prestenting anything useful since the category already exists. Dstanfor 06:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an argument against lists per se since virtually no lists contain information not found on the corresponding articles. Perhaps such a case should be taken to Wikipedia talk:List guideline instead of the talk page of a particular list.Simões (talk/contribs) 15:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps so. While you haven't convinced me that this list is useful, you've convinced me that there wouldn't be a consensus to delete it so I'll remove the tag. Dstanfor 21:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A note on the origin of the article 

message: read the title. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.181.226.86 (talk) 01:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bring back the original timeline of fictional future events, please!?! 

message: "List of timelines in fiction" just doesn't seem right to me, how about "List of fictional timelines"?  Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That would imply "timelines that appeared in fiction", similar to items in :Category:Lists of fictional things. I agree the title could be clearer, but I can't think of exactly how, yet. -- Quiddity (talk) 21:18, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: Instead of a list? Nergaal (talk) 23:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See :Category:Lists of lists ;) And if you'd like a headache, see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Inclusion criteria for Lists‎. -- Quiddity (talk) 23:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Shouldn't this be a disambig article?