Talk:Panic! at the Disco/Archive 4

message: so apparantly on a flight to singapore, the plane carrying the members of panic at the disco had to make an emergency landing. Sources are saying that the flight landed at a small airport a quarter of the way to singapore, and that ambulances and fire trucks were standing by waiting to see what would happen with the landing...The flight was apparantly experiencing mechanical difficulties. All though members of the band and crew were not injured just extremely shaken up, the paramedics took all 4 members of the band to a local hospital where they were all quickly checked and released. A few hours later a plane from London's heathrow airport flew in to carry the still shaken members of the band and crew to singapore. Upon landing in Singapore, members of panic at the disco were observed calling family, friends, and girlfriends informing them of what had happened.Hardknocklife4you (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: EMERGENCY FLIGHT LANDING

message: I think a different logo should be used, since after the name change, the exclamation mark is no longer a part of the band's name, I think the logo should be updated to reflect that. Anyone agree/disagree? -  Riyukko( talk) 06:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an FYI the name field of the infobox is an inappropriate place for logos. This is in line with consensus at Template talk:Infobox Musical artist. Basically if a logo is noteworthy, it should be in its own image box in the article body next to a discussion of its significance. If it has no discussion, then it's strictly decorative and fails Wikipedia's policies on fair use of copyrighted images (and logos, even if you modify them or copy them by hand on your own, are copyrighted). Finally, stylized lettering taken from a piece of merchandise (album, t-shirt, sticker, etc.) are not logos. Bad Religion and Black Flag, for example, have/had logos. To my knowledge PatD does not have one. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo

message: I'm unregistered so I can't add to the page. I checked the Panic! website on the 2nd of January and it has a new jigsaw piece which leads to a link to their MySpace blog. On it, there's a message from them which mentions they're going to be recording at Abbey Road Studios in London. There's also a rough version of a song called 'We're So Starving' with the soundclips from the other two jigsaw pieces and the words 'You Don't Have To Worry'. Source code also reads 'We're So Starving'. Could someone please post this information and maybe a separate section about the website.
Thanks.
81.99.24.95 (talk) 12:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The information was already added yesterday. Timmehcontribs 15:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

text: If you look at the source for the fact that 12 pieces have been found, you will see that this one has already been found. Thanks anyway. Timmeh! 01:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panic! Website 

message: Well i personally never agreeded with its removal as it had just as much information as many other untitled future albums that are still on.Now that the website seems to confirm the release date and a release date for a single has been set the page should be brought back.Parralax (talk) 02:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now there is an offcial title and a tour to promote scheduled.I'm going to recreate the pageParralax (talk) 22:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Agreed; I think there's much need of a clean up and possibly a rewrite. The formatting's also in need of revising. Album titles are unitalicized, which goes against MoS. Venyx, I wouldn't remove all of that content about this "viral marketing campaign"; I (personally) would leave details until the release of the album, then clean up and rewrite that section and move it to the Pretty. Odd. article. Qwerty (talk) 11:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

text: By the way, I've archived some of the talk on this page. Sorry for any inconvenience or any such thing. Qwerty (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I second/third this. I was just coming in here to comment that that section in particular was entirely too detailed and unencyclopedic. I'm also skeptical about the quoting of random blogs when discussing musical styles. Let's stick with legitimate sources here. But I think the whole article could use a clean-up in this regard. 67.167.164.98 (talk) 02:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bring Back the Untitled Second album page 

message: Although the band's next album wont be released till March 25, tracks and demos have been leaked as of January 4, 2008.
Source please? Venyx (talk) 06:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Update 

message: Who else agrees that this entire section needs to be cleaned up, rewritten and shortened? It's way too long, most of it is just unnecessary information. For example the whole source code/puzzle thing, all that needs to be said is that Panic started a viral marketing campaign ahead of the release of the album. This isn't a source for fans waiting for every bit of new info, it's an encyclopedia. Venyx (talk) 06:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed; I think there's much need of a clean up and possibly a rewrite. The formatting's also in need of revising. Album titles are unitalicized, which goes against MoS. Venyx, I wouldn't remove all of that content about this "viral marketing campaign"; I (personally) would leave details until the release of the album, then clean up and rewrite that section and move it to the Pretty. Odd. article. Qwerty (talk) 11:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

text: By the way, I've archived some of the talk on this page. Sorry for any inconvenience or any such thing. Qwerty (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I second/third this. I was just coming in here to comment that that section in particular was entirely too detailed and unencyclopedic. I'm also skeptical about the quoting of random blogs when discussing musical styles. Let's stick with legitimate sources here. But I think the whole article could use a clean-up in this regard. 67.167.164.98 (talk) 02:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2007-2008: Pretty. Odd. Clean Up 

message: When did they start being called "Panic At the Disco" instead of "Panic! At the Disco"? I have not heard about a name change or anything similar. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 03:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The band officially dropped the ! in January, at the same time they revealed the name of Pretty. Odd.. --The Experimental Film (talk) 04:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change? 

message: I can't find any sources the say Pretty. Odd. has reached number two in the US.74.214.33.9 (talk) 16:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  US charts 

message: There was a nice picture of the band, what happened to it? We need to have a picture!--Panic!out (talk) 17:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the picture? 

message: Can we get some nice pictures of the band members on their individual pages? Ryan has a nice one, but Brendon, Jon and Spencer's are lacking. --Panic!out (talk) 17:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band member pics 

message: While I understand that the acronyms at the top of the article are actually used when discussing the band, I do not think them relevant, certainly not in the introduction.
If they are to be included in the article, I might suggest that they be placed in a section perhaps about fans or following.
Josejuan05 (talk) 18:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I do agree with you, if we changed it on this page then we would have to change it on all the band pages.That is just the way Wikipedians decided to make the pages. Mr. GreenHit Me Up 18:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acronyms 

message: In the Pretty. odd. section it says "ron burgandy" produced the record. but rob mathes did  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.28.132 (talk) 05:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I would like to propose a minor change to the "History" section.  In the first paragraph, a sentence appears, reading:
Ross and Smith then created a band under the name of "Summer League", possibly a reference to the suburb in which they lived or possibly not, with childhood friends Brent Wilson, and Trevor who would later leave the band.
Not only is this grammatically awkward, it is also unencyclopedic.  I would propose that if references cannot be added for either viewpoint, the reference to the origin of the name should be removed completely.  Anyone else have an opinion on the matter? Tstreet (talk) 23:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find a reference for it, do as you will and delete it if you wish.71.179.227.101 (talk) 19:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor change to History section 

message: in the first paragraphs, it notes that the bands original name was jesu tities, but it never was  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.97.137 (talk) 07:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Given the kind of odd music these guys due, I'm not completely sure wheather it's vandalism or not. If it is, I'll remove it but if it's not I'd like to see the source for it. (13Tawaazun14 not signed in)71.179.227.101 (talk) 19:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's good, but can you show me the source?71.179.227.101 (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

text:  Deleted, there is no way that can be anything but vandalism.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 23:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  big vandalism on opening statement!!! 

message: Would it be worth adding a list of Panic At The Disco's tours, eg. the Nothing Rhymes With Circus Tour and the Honda Civic Tour? The dates/year of the tour could also be included.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abc1223 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because this is a biography of the band, not a fan site where one can find tour dates. You can find the dates on their official website. --Panic!outU've Been Discoed! 16:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tours 

message: Fuck.. I swear it was not vandalism!! I saw a video where they were asked about it.. "Jesus Titties" lol. I will find it soon. JazzlineB (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please do. That shit doesn't sound right and there was no source, so really I didn't see how it could be anything but vandalism... but what the fuck right? If you can find the source then please add it.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 02:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jesus Titties 

message: Noting the Genre, Wikipedia has PATD marked as an "emo" band.
Quote from http://www.punknews.org/article/20392:
 In a recent discussion with NME, Panic! At the Disco frontman Brendan Urie cleared any confusion pertaining to his feelings on the genre known as "emo", or how the label is associated with his band.
    It's ignorant! The stereotype is guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are. If you listen to our songs, not one of them has that tone. Emo is bullshit! If people want to take it for the literal sense of the word, yes we're an emotional band, we put a lot of thought into what we do. People always try to stereotype us, but we don't fit the emo stereotype.
Clearly, PATD should NOT be classified under the "emo" genre.
What do you guys think?
Noitanod (talk) 01:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Reference 2 is not needed. It only leads HERE. Whereas ref 1 leads to the SPECIFIC panic page. Please get rid of ref 2. But if you have a reason why you want to keep ref 2, please discuss it here. Thanks! SkaterBoy182 (talk) 15:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  REFERENCE 2 

message: I think there should be a Pop Culture section box. They actually HAVE been used in pop culture. For example, In an episode of Hannah Montana, Jackson tells Robby that he's taking Sienna Grace to a Panic At The Disco concert. In another example, during VH1's I LOVE THE NEW MILLENIUM, Michael Ian Black disscusses trucker hats and Panic At The Disco by saying, "Oh, look at me..I wear trucker hats but I still listen to Panic At The Disco.."   There are more refrences to them, but I can't remember them right now. I AM NOT AGAINST PANIC AT THE DISCO WHEN IT COMES TO THE HARSH COMMENTS OR REFRENCES ABOUT THEM!!! But I still think it's important to let people know that PATD is being refrenced to. Would someone mind putting it in?  Yellowandbox (talk) 07:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PATD in Pop Culture 

message: I suggest that Emo is removed from the genres as this is obviously untrue. If anyone can prove me wrong by showing me some 'emo' panic at the disco lyrics then you are welcome. 82.7.41.213 (talk) 19:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: its what reliable sources say not what you think is truth--Wikiscribe (talk) 21:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I have to agree with you --Panic at the Disco is hardly Emo.  But please try to avoid using profanity in your comments.  It violates Wikipedia's policy of civility.  And I'm not sure what you meant by your last comment, about Wikipedia not claiming truth.  Wikipedia is an attempt to summarize and distribute knowledge, and knowledge is not synonymous with truth.  Philosophy, religion, and countless scientific theories are a few examples of subjects that make knowledge-based claims that exist beyond the realm of truth.  Furthermore, subjective assesments (e.g. classification such as musical genres) hardly ever "claim truth."  Though I'm still not exactly sure what you meant by this.  ŁittleÄlien¹8² (talk\contribs) 23:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure whom you are speaking to, but I have read the entire WP:V article and your point about truth seems to only reiterate the point I was making.  Regardless, however, of this point, the question remains whether are not there are any reliable sources that state PATD as being EMO.  You keep referring to these sources, but have yet to reveal what they are and where they are located.  So, where are they?  ŁittleÄlien¹8² (talk\contribs) 02:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emo 

message: What happened to their picture? It was an accurate and current one of them, so why was it removed? --Bottle-Of-Musical-Joy (talk) 23:40, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the image was probably copy-righted and, as such, was deleted.  It would be nice if someone could upload a picture that they personally took (perhaps a concert-shot or something similar).  Then we wouldn't have to worry about copyright problems.  ŁittleÄlien¹8² (talk\contribs) 18:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture