Talk:Cooneyites

message: Given that the two articles seem to be, essentially, about the same group, I am proposing them for merger. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see Talk:Christian Conventions#Proposed merger. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree with this. Seeing the confusion re Kangaroo Island (discussion below) it really makes sense to keep them together unless they really needed to be split due to Wikipedia's article lenth policy. Donama (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Merging the articles for the two sects might cause more confusion than clarity. After more than 80 years of separation, some of the more prominent doctrines and practices of the 2 groups appear to have diverged substantially. Combining the articles (and turning this article into a redirect to Two by Twos) would reinforce a misperception which conflates the 2 groups. As it stands, this article does have a hatnote with a link to the article on the larger group. I do believe that the hatnote might be more clearly reworded, however.  • Astynax talk 10:07, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  While I see your point, surely what they have in common -- especially being nameless churches -- is massively more significant than the differences that have emerged. To ram it home, we have people referring to Two by Two members in real life as "Cooneyites", which means the typical punter comes here to Cooneyites look up information, instead of Two by Twos which is a much more substantial article describing the REAL LIFE Two by Two members the same punter (or Reverend Goodes, in reference to Kangaroo Island) has observed. That means the general public cann't really see significant differences or a proper natural distinguisher (in absence of official names) would surely have evolved. Donama (talk) 03:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The most obvious differences between the 2 churches are organizational, with Cooney's followers firmly rejecting the hierarchy of workers, overseers, etc. which have grown up within the Two by Two sect. There are doctrinal differences between Two by Two-ites and Cooney's teachings, but most of those have yet to be much explored in published sources, at least beyond Cooney's rejection of the Living Witness doctrine—i.e., that salvation comes only though hearing their gospel preached in person by their preachers ("THE PRESENT DAY 2 BY 2 APOSTLES", as one of the Two by Two overseers recently put it in a newspaper advert). Hopefully, more published references will become available on Cooney's following. There are other books by Patricia Roberts which deal with the history of Cooney's band of outcasts, and distinctive mentions of them occasionally appear in the press and in other works.  • Astynax talk 09:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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