Talk:Kwara State

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Kwara which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 17:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That was approved, so the archived discussion is now at Talk:Kwara (disambiguation). – Fayenatic London 20:55, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion

message: The article Kwarans is categorised in ethnic groups, but provides no evidence that Kwarans have a distinct ethnic identity. Even the citation given for a Muslim majority does not support that statement. I have merged the list of notable people here, and the section on population. The page should now be redirected here. – Fayenatic London 14:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It was not EruditeScholar but yourself who put the page Kwarans in the category for ethnic groups,. It is the national article Nigerians which corresponds to Canadians; if we look at the top-level country subdivision, Ontarian does not have its own article but redirects to Ontario. As for Lagosians, it is not a persuasive precedent; from 2007 it was a redirect to Lagos until six months ago when, like Kwarans, The Lagosians was created by you, and then moved to Lagosians. – Fayenatic London 15:38, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *COMMENT:  There's Demographics of Ontario, which I believe is the right redirect for Ontarian, just like New Yorkers is redirected to Demographics of New York. Generally, separate articles for the demographics of Countres' subdivisions are quite common on wikipedia, and appropriately so.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 16:01, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comment, . , the argument that Nigerians and Canadians are national article is totally irrelevant. Both Kwarans and Lagosians meet WP:GNG, a notability guideline for a stand-alone article. Kwarans and Kwara are independently notable per significant coverages in multiple reliable sources. If you agree that both Nigerians and Canadians should stand alone, there is absolutely no reason why  Kwarans and Lagosians cannot stand alone. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 16:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:   you've admitted that it was an aberration to categorise Kwarans as an ethnic group, but have not replied about your unverified statement about the majority religion. And on what grounds are you claiming this meets GNG as a separate topic? What significant coverage? – Fayenatic London 18:24, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing forbids demonym from having a stand-alone article. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 20:57, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I replied to this at Talk:Lagos State. Please reply to my questions above. – Fayenatic London 12:26, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

text: As you have not replied to my questions above, and in effect admitted at Talk:Lagosians that the similar article Lagosians was your own original research (which is against Wikipedia policy), I have merged and redirected Kwarans. – Fayenatic London 15:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Talk:Lagos_State#Proposed_merge_from_Lagosians. The matter may be regarded as closed. – Fayenatic London 21:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from [[Kwarans]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Moved – WP:SNOW close by page mover, considering citations and established Nigerian usage + recent consensus on all other states — JFG talk 11:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Kwara →  – As with all Nigerian states, the form "XYZ State" is more common. 
The bold move from "Kwara State" to the US-style "Kwara" on 14 October 2015 after an obscure discussion at Talk:Kwara (disambiguation) was incorrect. A request to move back to the stable title on 27 October 2015 did not reach consensus either way, but was closed incorrectly as confirming the bold move. According to Wikipedia:Article titles#Considering title changes, " If an article title has been stable for a long time, and there is no good reason to change it, it should not be changed." There was no consensus, so the 27 October 2015 result should have been to return to the long-standing title.
Evidence that common usage is "Kwara State" is given by the first page of a search for kwara in Google News Archive  which (ignoring the telegraphic headlines) gives:
* The governor of Kwara State, Abdulfatah Ahmed, has congratulated Bukola Saraki on his emergence as Senate President and Chairman of the ...
* The Kwara State Government has risen in defence of the President of the Senate, Bukola Saraki, against claims he received salary for four ...
* Senate President Bukola Saraki, who stoned yesterday with rocks and water sachets by an irate mob at the Eid Prayer Grounds in Ilorin, Kwara State, has accused ...
* The All Progressives Congress, APC, in Kwara State has said the ongoing trial of the Senate President, Dr. Abubakar Bukola Saraki at the ...
* Following the press statement by the Kwara State chapter of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) that its petition to the Economic and Financial Crimes ...
* The Code of Conduct Bureau on Friday alleged that the President of the Senate, Bukola Saraki, moved funds belonging to Kwara State into his ...
* The Nigeria Union of Teachers, NUT, in Kwara says primary school teachers in the state will embark on strike on Monday to protest the ...
* The governor of Kwara state, Abdulfatah Ahmed, has confirmed the release of Hon. Ishola Balogun Fulani and Chief Bode Adekanye by their ...
* The chairmen of all the 16 local government areas of Kwara State, and their deputies, on Friday formally decamped from the Peoples ...
* Governor Abdulfatah Ahmed of Kwara was on Sunday re-elected for a second term after defeating 15 other candidates at the just concluded ...
These are all the results on the first page, no cherry picking. A search for kwara in Google Books  gives the following on the first page:
* Kwara: Post-primary Education Policy. Text of an address to the press by the Kwara State Military Governor, D.L. Bamigboye.
* A Kwara'ae spelling list
* Who is who in Kwara State?
* 100 days of Governor Sha'aba Lafiagi in Kwara State 
* Water Resources in Kwara State Nigeria
* Recurrent and Capital Estimates of the Government of Kwara State of ...
* Kwara Spotlight: A Quarterly Journal of the Information Division
* Annual report of the Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources Kwara State (Nigeria). Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources
* Information Dissemination in Kwara State of Nigeria
* Kwara State Government Budget in Brief
These are all the results on the first page, no cherry picking. It is clear that "Kwara State" is the common name. The relevant guidelines is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names), which says "By following modern English usage, we also avoid arguments about what a place ought to be called, instead asking the less contentious question, what it is called." In this case, it is called "Kwara State". After moves, discussions and and moves back, 35 out of 36 articles on Nigerian states now again have the standard Nigerian form "XYZ State". There is no justification for a US-style title for this one state. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:08, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 June 2016 

message: Hello 
I don't know what you're upto reverting edits, just for the sake of it; but you should realize Wikipedia is a community, not a one-man show. If your edits are being reverted, the proper way is to discuss, before making further edits.
*You keep removing Yoruba, as the majority ethnicity in Kwara, claiming "There is no reliable source to determine what the primary ethnic group of Kwara state is", meanwhile, there are a zillion publications and journals out there, backing this: 
# ".....covered  all  the   Yoruba speaking states including Kwara  and  Kogi states,  located  in  the  lower  Niger of  the central Nigeria. These two states have the Yoruba people as the dominant population, with 62% and 48% Yoruba in Kwara and Kogi, respectively   (National   Population   Commission,   2006)....Kogi and Kwara states also had Yoruba  speakers as majority natives...." 
# "The primary ethnic group of Kwara State is Yoruba, with significant Nupe, Bariba  Hausa minorities."
#"....shows that public spending in the Yoruba-dominated southwest regions, including capital Lagos and state of Kwara, recieved nearly doubled the sum of public spending for education than the hausa-dominated northern states Kano and Jigawa....."
# "The primary ethnic group of Kwara State is Yoruba, with significant Nupe, Bariba and Fulani minorities"
# ".....As a result, there are now roughly 7 states that can be said to be Yoruba dominated (the South West plus Kwara), 10 states dominated by the Hausa-Fulani (the North West plus Gombe, Bauchi and Adamawa), and 5 states dominated by the Igbo. This gives the three ethnic majority groups a control over 22 of the 36 states......"''
:These and more links, refer to Kwara as a Yoruba dominated state. I haven't seen a single link so far, that says Hausa, Fulani, or Bariba is the majority ethnic group in Kwara. If you can find it, then kindly paste it, as both information have to be represented in the article per Wikipedia's policy on neutrality.
*Also, since you are so bent on representing the geopolitical zone in the lead, I'll reword the lead to represent both the geographical location and geopolitical zone.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 02:12, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity of Kwara 

message: Due to an ongoing 'debate' on Twitter and some other social nedia platforms, this page has been targeted for vandalism. I will keep its edits on watch TEK1 (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Kindly add these people and correct where necessary 105.112.160.106 (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martins feelz is an artiste from Erin Ile, Kwara state. David Abioye too is from Erin ile kwara state, Samuel Olu Alabi (Oluomo of Erin Ile) is a SAN and we can’t find the name here please kindly add them all 

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