Talk:Southgate–Lewis House

message: I believe that ALL Stick Style discussion has been removed from the Southgate-Lewis House Wikipedia article. All Stick Style discussion has been removed from *both* the figure captions, as well as the body of the text.DGAAustinDGAAustin (talk) 20:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Stick Style discussion removed from Southgate-Lewis House article. 

message: User:Qwirkle and User:Dicklyon  . . .  
Does this help solve the problem that warranted the Template entitled, "This article's factual accuracy is disputed. (July 2021)" ?
  
"An especially fine example of Victorian Stick Style architecture" 
 . . .  from  . . .  
"one of the Internet's reigning authorities on buildings and architecture."
  
Jackie Craven has identified for us "an especially fine example of Victorian Stick Style architecture." We can call it the Yellow House and we can compare the Yellow House to the Southgate-Lewis House.
  
Jackie Craven has written an article for ThoughtCo entitled, "House Style Guide to the American Home". In this article she identifies some 55 different "Styles". She provides a photographic image of a prototypical example for each "style". The article was updated September 25, 2019.
  
https://www.thoughtco.com/house-style-guide-american-home-4065233
Who is Jackie Craven?
  
Jackie Craven holds a Doctoral Degree in the Arts and an M.S. degree from the State University of New York, SUNY Albany. She holds a Bachelor of Arts Degree in English from Virginia Commonwealth University.
  
Jackie Craven has over 20 years of experience writing about architecture.
  
The New York Times called Dr. Craven "one of the Internet's reigning authorities on buildings and architecture."
"Jackie became fascinated by 19th century architecture when she purchased her first Victorian house in 1984. Over the years, she renovated several old buildings on her street . . . She now lives in a turn-of-the-century cottage and serves on the Schenectady Historic Commission."
  
"Since 1999, Jackie Craven has contributed more than 500 articles to the digital media outlet now known as ThoughtCo. Her features cover architecture, historic landmarks  . . .  "
 
The Spruce states: "Jackie Craven is an expert in architecture . . . "
  
In the article entitled, "House Style Guide to the American Home" Jackie Craven provides a prototypical example of the "Stick Style" category. A photograph of this prototypical example is shown herein with the Southgate-Lewis House below.
  
Also shown herein is a comparison of the "Stick-Work" of Jackie Craven's prototypical example of the Stick Style with the "Stick-Work" of the Southgate-Lewis House. As can be seen (and as the red arrows indicate) the "Stick-Work" is nearly identical.
  
This Yellow House was designed by the well known architect Frank Heyling Furness, who over the course of his career designed some 650 buildings. He was reported to be one of the highest paid architects of his time.
  
Allow me to quote from Jackie Craven's article:
"The house shown here is an especially fine example of Victorian Stick architecture. Designed by architect Frank Furness, the house has "stickwork," or decorative half-timbering, on the exterior walls. Other features include prominent brackets, rafters, and braces. These details are not necessary structurally. They are decorations ... "
  
One additional prototypical example of a Stick Style house might prove useful in this context. The prototype of the category has been identified by the Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation for the State of Washington. 
  
Home » Historic Preservation » Historic Buildings » Architectural Style Guide » Stick Style
https://dahp.wa.gov/historic-preservation/historic-buildings/architectural-style-guide/stick-style
  
There are many other characteristics of Stick Style architecture. Some of these characteristics were described in an earlier version of the Southgate-Lewis entry – prior to the deletions by USER:Qwirkle.
  
This version of the Southgate-Lewis House entry (dated 12:10, 30 June 2021 -- prior to deletion) contains a more complete description.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southgate–Lewis_House&oldid=1031220587
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southgate–Lewis_House&oldid=1031220587#Stick_Style_High_Victorian_Gothic_Revival_House
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Southgate–Lewis_House&oldid=1031220587#Stick_Style_Victorian_Architecture
  
User:Qwirkle and User:Dicklyon  . . .  
Does this help solve the problem that warranted the Template entitled, "This article's factual accuracy is disputed. (July 2021)" ?
  
DGAAustin
  
DGAAustin (talk) 19:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Duane, what you're doing here is mostly what we call original research or synthesis.  But to include your conclusions in the article, they'd need to be verifiable in reliable sources.  If you want to write an article on the house and get it reviewed and published in a journal about historic houses or architectural style or such, then we'd be able to use that and cite it. Dicklyon (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Beyond this, it is observably based on bad sourcing, as I mention above, and on the mistaken belief that any continuous molding is the exact equivalent of strip, board, or plank trim.Whatever Thoughtco’s merits are overall, this is a webpage in which text is written about one building, and yet another building is shown in the illustration. That is a bad reference. Qwirkle (talk) 14:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Architectural style: Categorization of Southgate-Lewis House as Stick Style.