Talk:Jobsworth

message: The OED entry for Jobsworth is as follows.... http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/jobsworth?view=uk --LiamE 14:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: OED

message: I'm pretty sure Taylor's song comfortably predates the George Melly reference in the article. --Bonalaw 20:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[George Melly]]

message: Best to properly define the old idiom from which the term was extracted to explain recent derisive uses for the neologism. JonMar 16:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Idiom

message: I don't see a contradiction in the claim "To do that is more than my job's worth".  It is claimed that doing "that" will cost him his
"job".  The claim is that he will be fired if he complies with the request.  It's the civilian equivalent of only following orders. 
Jasen betts (talk) 11:47, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: What contradiction?

message: The article states that the American term company man is equivalent to jobsworth. That wasn't my understanding of either term, so I read the Comapany Man article, and it confirms that the meaning is completely different. A 'company man' is basically a 'yes man', while a jobsworth is an individual who takes pride in inflexibly enforcing petty rules and regulations. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 20:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Company man 

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message: The Urban Dictionary as a reference for Wikipedia? Surely that should be the other way around?! 82.43.194.184 (talk) 14:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Urban Dictionary]] reference? 

message: I believe that the shop steward Fred Kite (Peter Sellers) in the film I'm All Right Jack would also be one of the earliest 'jobsworths' to appear on film.
:The difference being that his enforcement of petty rules was to further the aims of his Trade union; the modern jobsworth does it for his/her personal enjoyment. Saga City (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  A jobsworth's motives may be as diverse as anyone else's; the decisive property is the pedantic use of rules to avoid doing work—or to set up a negotiating position in which it's established that the work in question goes beyond the jobsworth's obligations (i.e. you aren't entitled to expect it of him, so you'll have to give him something for it).  For that, Kite qualifies admirably ! 84.215.6.188 (talk) 11:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Saga City. Kite was a political satire. Not a jobsworth, who is promoting his personal ego by finding petty reasons to be uncooperative.   
Channelwatcher (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fred Kite

message: I'm just highlighting the poorly written and confused main page.
My interpretation of 'jobsworth' is an individual that refuses to do anything that is not in the precise terms of their job description. The main page is simply stating it wrongly when it is asserted that a 'jobsworth' is a person that won't break rules. Look, no employee with any sense is going to actively break rules if they want to keep their job! A 'jobsworth' is not a person who refuses to break rules. A person who refuses to break rules is an honest employee. It also seems to equate - quite wrongly in my view - taking initiative with rule breaking. (Who wrote this nonsense?!) I am going to remove the offending sentences. John2o2o2o (talk) 11:54, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  poor description 

message: What does the original phrase, "that's more than my job's worth" mean?  Does "worth" have the same meaning as "value" here?
I could understand if it was "that's less than my job's worth", e.g. "I won't take a hundred-pound bribe, because I would get sacked, and my job is worth more than one hundred pounds to me."  I suppose the opposite would be "I'm not going to go out of my way to help you, because I don't get paid enough for that" or "your request is beyond my pay grade".  However, I always took the phrase as having an element of fear: "I won't help you because I'm afraid of getting fired".
184.70.186.150 (talk) 16:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, the literal meaning of the phrase is "I won't help you because I'm afraid of getting fired". However, the point is that this is just an excuse - there is no realistic possibility of the jobsworth being fired if he helps out. The jobsworth gains satisfaction and a sense of power from being inflexible and uncooperative. Typical jobsworth behaviour would be refusing to sell alcohol to someone unable to show ID, even if they are very obviously much older than the minimum age required, or continuing to write a parking ticket only a few seconds after an expired time limit even when the owner has returned and is about to move the vehicle. --Ef80 (talk) 14:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a person's job worth? 

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