Talk:National Institute on Drug Abuse

message: * The Gettman link doesn't appear to be relevant.  Can anyone argue that it is?  I didn't really scrutinize it, but it never mentions the subject of this article.
* The 2 mpp.org/archive and mpp.org/releases links are bad.  Looks like they went to a different site management technology with obnoxious URLs.  Can anyone provide replacements?
–BozoTheScary 22:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External references 

message: Wonkette   has just advised her readers to come vandalize this article. -FisherQueen (Talk) 11:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure she's employing sarcasm in that post and not literally suggesting that her readers vandalize the article.  That is not to say that some of her readers may not take it literally Charles (Kznf) 14:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, the Wonkette team is male now. I have no idea how that makes sense, but it is. 67.62.109.178 18:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know I should have said 'they.'  But I always picture Wonkette as being the lone female cartoon at the head of the page, and occasionally I forget that drawings don't blog. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brace for possible vandalism

message: Somebody took out a reference to a blog on the theory that "blogs are not reliable sources of information." If we are to decide which sources of information are reliable, we should probably also cut all links to federal government pages about drugs. Some blogs are more reliable than others, as some newspapers are more reliable than others. In particular, the reason.com blog is linked to Reason Magazine, which is a very reputable print publication that has won all sorts of fancy awards. The point is not for us to decide which sources of information are reliable, or which points of view are agreeable, but to document consensus where consensus exists, and notable disagreement where notable disagreement exists. If there is a source you can find that disputes the allegations on reason, politico, or Daily Kos, by all means link to it. If the whole thing gets too unwieldy, summarize it and move it to a separate article. Sjeng 13:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe (but am too lazy to locate) that there is a bona fide WP policy that blogs (and social networking sites and search engine links, etc.) are not suitable for factual references.  That said, the rule is not hard and fast.  If a blog contributes evidence, like the NIDA spokeswoman quote on politico, there is no reason not to use it to cite a fact.  However, unless the blog post provides a significant amount of data about an article, I don't think that it belong in the "External links".  The other blog entries merely reference the politico entry or this article.  They document the flow of outrage about the meddling, but they don't document any new facts. –BozoTheScary 16:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop worrying, love blogs! 

message: The following comments complain that the page is a stub and an advertisement for NIDA. I have moved them to the bottom of the page because I think they distract from the more recent concerns about vandalism. I think both issues have been dealt with, although more on the history of NIDA and the non-scandalous things they do is still very much welcome. Sjeng 13:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older comments 

message: This article reads like an advert. It says that NIDA "revolutionizes" and is "very important". Informative language is very rarely in the present tense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UberMan5000 (talk • contribs).
:This appears to have been addressed. –BozoTheScary 16:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor Neutrality 

message: This article is a stub and needs to be marked as such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eyejuice (talk • contribs).
:This appears to have been addressed. –BozoTheScary 16:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub 

message: I think there's some problems with the new ad campaigns section.  First, I don't think that has anything to do with the NIDA.  The ONDCP is the ones that put out ads.  Second, it was the GAO that funded the study on it.  The ONDCP is the propaganda department for the public, the NIDA is the propaganda department for scientists and doctors.  I'm reverting the section until we can get some kind of citation that the NIDA is involved in this. Gigs 17:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In any case what was added was a copy/paste from the ONDCP article and needed to be rewritten.  It didn't make sense in this article. Gigs 14:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ad Caompaigns 

message: I'm going to revamp this article in accordance with some complaints that were made. Sarsaparilla (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Sarsaparilla (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: How about a nice tall glass of [[WP:SOFIXIT|SOFIXIT]]?

message: Dr. Lester Grinspoon, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School who sued the DEA when it declared ecstasy a schedule 1 controlled substance in 1985, said he doesn't quite trust studies performed by the National Institute of Drug Abuse."The NIH is a wonderful institution as a whole and truly their interest is in science," Grinspoon said. "But the NIDA really lost it where science is concerned and has become a ministry of drug propaganda." 
—Viriditas | Talk 09:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lester Grinspoon criticism to add 

message: ...By contrast, more than 100,000 people seek treatment each year due to inability to control their marijuana use
This quote is what the article says, but it is statistical cherrypicking: When someone is charged with possession or use for cannabis they are often given the ultimatum of "jailtime & a large fine" OR Treatment.  When they obviously choose treatment - it is tallied up as a "patient who sought treatment" whereas the truth is it is entirely forced.  I do not like to BE BOLD when DELETING information, yet the entire section of the article seems to hinge around this FLAWED statement i quoted above. Roidroid (talk) 05:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sought" Treatment is not "sought" but forced via ultimatum 

message: any time someone uses a drug for pleasure (except for the government's approved drug ALCOHOL), NIDA calls them 'drug abusers'.  in fact they are merely using the substance.  'abuse' is strictly the POV of law enforcement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.168.139 (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  abuse of the word "abuse" 

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