Talk:Economy of Iran

message: This GA article needs to be demoted AUTOMATICALLY within 1 year from now. Reason: the WP author/editor who took care of it is gone. This article needs updating.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.23.45 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status

message: QUESTION: Why is this article written the way it is (i.e. with so many statistics)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.213.240.17 (talk) 19:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  "BECAUSE IN SUBSTANCE EVERYTHING WILL BE SETTLED BY THE QUESTION OF FIGURES" (Sarcasm?) :-) (SSZ (talk) 01:56, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  apparently NOT ;-) 99.203.24.145 (talk) 17:05, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "somebody" has been listening carefully... :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.213.244.236 (talk) 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What gives? 

message: A new model for economics? (when the word "economic program" takes a whole new meaning!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.193.140.58 (talk) January 25, 2016
::Including "spiritual solution to economic problems" ? 47.17.27.189 (talk) 04:06, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a Baha'i idea, but this is the first time ever that a scheme has been devised that can allow the human SPIRIT/MIND to take control of the economy DIRECTLY locally and globally (through the use of Computer chips/Gates, informational economy, Electronic money, etc.). This work deserves a Nobel prize :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.17.20.247 (talk) 20:23, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: See also here!: "33 in the name and the triangle" & for info, there are also train stations in Iran with massonic symbols :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timetravel12 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2015_Strategy/Community_consultation/2015-03-03#SSZ "Quantum" economics?]

message: Can anyone give me reference(in english) of 6th Five-year Development Plan (2016-2021) of Iran. I think we should remove Fifth Economic Development Plan (2010–15) from Economy of Iran.  45.116.233.29 (talk) 03:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Five-Year economy plan 

message: Please tell a reason  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Economy_of_Iran&diff=980594867&oldid=980453204 Baratiiman (talk) 15:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is rated 'Good' and adding a picture that violates MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE is not an improvement. Pahlevun (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Poverty=Beggar Baratiiman (talk) 16:16, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: With such an interpretation, you had previously added the same picture to the article Fashion in Iran. This is not an important illustrative aid, at all. Please read MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE once. Pahlevun (talk) 16:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: i say it is very very important and i ask you to gain consensus before removing the pic Baratiiman (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BRD applies here, and inclusion needs consensus. Note that this is a WP:GA. Pahlevun (talk) 16:31, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: What does this image of a woman standing in the sidewalks exactly improve in this article? I am also curious to know how the same picture is in anyway relevant to Fashion in Iran, because you added it to that article too. Pahlevun (talk) 14:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that it's not relevant in a broad topic such as this; nearly every country has some poverty, including most of the countries with the highest GDPs. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:10, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: it is decided im putting it in poverty in iran there is none Baratiiman (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, it's not decided. Wikipedia operates on policy and consensus. You don't have either on your side at this point. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  you are speaking of this wikipedia? This wikipedia is not a democracy thank god Baratiiman (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur that the image (women in hijab, begging) does not contribute to the article as written. The article mentions that a percentage of the population lives below the poverty level, but there is no referenced mention on the prevalence of public begging. David notMD (talk) 18:07, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason 

message: whats wrong with the sentence and the pic since these people said the pic should fit the text i brought the text for the pic.Baratiiman (talk) 15:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I added an explanation on your user talk page. The text that was added here is a sentence copied straight from the source with no context – and that is why it reads so oddly. The source (there are two links there but it is the same source) discusses a research study involving a number of beggars in Tehran, which investigated the prevalence of HIV. The sentence "In a survey conducted in Tehran during 2007 to 2008, 4230 men and women beggars were collected by municipality" refers to that study, and apart from the fact that it was copied straight from the source (which is always unacceptable per WP:COPYVIO), it is irrelevant to this article. To try to get around a consensus against inclusion for the picture by trying to find some vaguely related text, just to be able to add the picture to the article, is not really constructive. The images should add extra understanding to the text, the text is not there to serve as background info to the images. --bonadea contributions talk 15:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

text: How do you know that the photo that's published in mehrnews.com is not copyright protected?  --bonadea contributions talk 16:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Ah, never mind, I see the CC BY 4.0 notice at the bottom of that page. --bonadea contributions talk 16:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

text: However, just because the image might be OK to upload to Commons, that doesn't mean it should be added to this article since it doesn't directly illustrate or explain any of the content of the article. MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE still applies. --bonadea contributions talk 16:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  This addition has been rejected by four other experienced editors. I suggest you drop it and move on. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Good article doesn't look like anything to me  i suggest you go to pages YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.in comparison these pages are good articles: Telegram in spanish wikipedia AND THIS PAGE https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ispahan this good article criteria is ajoke for a broken website that is wikipediaBaratiiman (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New addition begging 

message: because this page is a good article.
.As of November 2020 three million impoverished families dont have any transactions in banks https://www.eghtesadonline.com/fa/amp/news-480793   Baratiiman (talk) 11:42, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've closed the requested edit template based on the changes made by Timetravel12 above. Orvilletalk 07:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 million famlies 

message: In 2015, Iran and the P5+1 reached a deal on the nuclear program, and it barely removed any international sanctions. Whoever wrote that it removed most of the international sanctions is clearly spreading disinformation.
Sickofthisbs (talk) 14:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please note, Wikipedia is NOT a forum. If you have any issue with cited sources, you can always ask an editor for a second opinion. 172.58.236.105 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 14:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  USA did not lift most of the international sanctions. 

message: Someone has removed many sources related to PressTV. While I don’t care who reports economic data (as long as it is correct), I do care they are now missing for no good reason, as all the economic data can be found in other newspapers (including in US economic journals!). If you need to find missing sources revert this article to early 2020 to find them (same holds true for many related articles).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.236.24 (talk) 10:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: PressTv got banned in the US and the US website shut down. If the links were to the US website they no longer exist. PressTV now has an Iranian based website but I have no clue if articles from a decade or more were recreated there. Either way the site is government run and half the stories are propaganda. The best of the best are the reports on Iran's stealth fighter - the F313. Iran is incapable of reproducing a 1960's era jet engine so half its air force (made up of 1960's or 1970's era US planes sold to the Shah) is on its last legs. If it can't even reverse engineer a 1960's era jet engine, then how likely is it that it can develop a stealth fighter? LOL! 2600:4040:5F0A:5500:CC1:391F:BB5F:8138 (talk) 17:50, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some sources are missing 

message: In a prior post I pointed out that using PPP numbers distorts the facts by a large factor, and now while looking at the articles GDP table I find the nominal GDP numbers to be utter garbage. 
As an example, for this year most estimates of Iran's GDP are around $370 billion, and yet the table shows a figure of $2,044 billion. That number is utter garbage. that is off by a factor of 6.
Considering how many such errors exist in the article I would say that the odds are excellent that someone working for Iran's propaganda arm was the main author of this page, as it is (to put it charitably) full of fiction that is favorable to Iran. 
In real life Iran is one of the few countries whose government is so inept and corrupt, that it has managed to turn a middle income Second World country into a poverty stricken Third World one. 2600:4040:5F0A:5500:2D2D:CE64:63E9:5C6A (talk) 03:25, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDP Table is garbage 

message: Low meat consumption is something that is highly indicative of poverty. Per this source meat consumption in Iran was around 33 kilos a year as recently as 2019.
https://www.mappr.co/thematic-maps/meat-consumption-by-countries/
Per much more recent source the average Iranian now gets to eat only a few kilos of meat a year indicating a massive increase in poverty in recent years. This low level of meat consumption, similar to nations such as India, Nigeria and Ethiopia, indicates that Iran is now solidly in the Third World and is no longer a middle income Second World nation.  
https://irannewsupdate.com/news/economy/the-average-income-for-iranians-has-shrunk-by-5000/
With the skyrocketing prices of rice, people are being forced to consume imported brands of lower quality. In contrast, the per capita consumption of meat for each person has dropped significantly, currently reaching four kilograms per year.
https://iranwire.com/en/economy/103598-meat-consumption-in-iran-falls-to-all-time-low/
Per capita meat consumption in Iran has fallen by 50 percent in a year to an average of just 2.9kg a year, meaning a large number of Iranians are no longer eating any meat at all, reported Masoud Rasouli, secretary of the Iran Meatpacking Companies Association.
In 2005, the annual per capita meat consumption of a whole Iranian household was 57kg. By 2019 this had fallen to less than 12kg.
The third link seems to be for red meat only and this explains why it cites numbers lower than the other 2 sources! 2600:4040:5F0A:5500:2D2D:CE64:63E9:5C6A (talk) 04:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poverty and meat consumption 

message: https://en.irna.ir/news/85280768/Iran-s-foreign-debt-down-at-over-5-5-bn-CBI 86.55.186.223 (talk) 19:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Iran's foreign debt to Nov 4, 2023 number ( see Link ) 

message: Article is very old. Please update it. I don't have permission to update it. 202.47.36.141 (talk) 18:57, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is very old. Please update it.  

message: should a new paragraphe by created to deal with this subject, currently only 11 percent of women are working  Anticonstitutionnelist (talk) 17:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:   place of women in the economy