Talk:Qianlong Emperor

message: (1 image added)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathypem (talk • contribs) 15:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Peabody Essex Museum Edit-a-thon Spring 2014

message: Hi all,
Qianlong's given name in Manchu orthography was Hungli, and his temple name was G'aodzung.  His short posthumous name was Yongkiyangga Hūwangdi.
My source is this site, as well as Gertraude Roth-Li:
http://myweb.hinet.net/home10/manjusibe/g.htm
This page uses "v" in "hvwangdi", but "ū" is the standard way to transcribe this vowel.
(Smartboy230 (talk) 23:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The given name of the Qianlong emperor 

message: I don't want to tell the Chinese how to handle the names of their Emperors, but could we have some agreement on what name to use for each one mentioned in the article? One understands that Qianlong is also Hongli, and also Prince Bao; but then we get Shengzu (Kangxi) and Shizong (Yongzheng). I think. Not to mention that Hongli pops up without explanation in an article that's headed Qianlong; this part I can fix, because it's just copy editing; but I'm not competent to select the correct and unconfusing name to use for each reference to each emperor in the text. Surely someone is, and could lay down the law here and in other articles. Dandrake 03:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: okay, this is basically what you do for these Emperor articles. The Emperor's personal name, or princely title (used interchangably, but the princely title in more formal occurences) is to be used before the reign begins. This is how Chinese writers usually do it. The Temple name, like Shengzu (Kangxi), is used seldom in writing for Qing Dynasty Emperors, and only occurs in formal written works, or in introduction. Colipon+(T) 04:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conventions 

message: The Later Years sections seems pretty POV, assigning much blame of the later decline of the Qing to Heshen.  Kelvinc 01:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later Years: NPOV? 

message: I believe this comment makes the Chinese seem rather bad:
"Insistent demands from Heshen and the Qing Court that the British Trade ambassadors should kneel and kowtow to the empty dragon throne worsened matters."
The fact that Chinese required kowtow was part of their custom. Also, the rest of this paragraph makes it seem like the Chinese are offending the British. The British are the ones who came over to the territory of another so I believe there was no offense there and all information pointing to such an offense of Chinese to British should be rewritten in a more neutral stance.
The court expected the English Delegation to present England as a tribute nation to China, which was how it conducted all its foreign relations during the imperial era. This expectation was based on the conceit of China as the 'Middle Kingdom' and as superior to all foreign nations, which it deemed barbaric. This expectation worked with tribes in the central asian steppes, but for obvious reasons the British, the worlds greatest power at this point, took offense.  No one cares whether you think it was justified or not, the fact is that when applied to European powers this is the result the tribute system had.
65.247.224.46 06:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well put mineowyn  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.27.132 (talk) 05:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macartney Embassy '''not''' NPOV 

message: Shouldn't Heshen and the Qianlong emperors relationship be elaborated upon a little more?  From my understanding, it was sexual in nature.  65.247.224.46 06:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: R/S between Qianlong and Heshen

message: That section doesn't contain some of the more recent interpretations of the McCartney Embassy.
Roadrunner 18:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the section is quite accurate. It is true that some scholars have disputed the fact that the Qianlong Emperor insisted that Lord Macartney kneel in front of him, but the fact remains that Qing foreign trade policies remained the same, as stated in the emperors edict.--Niohe 22:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MacCartney Embassy 

message: The following were posted as appropriate "further reading" ...?
* Maryam Salim, " The Laws of Kedah " , Dewan Bahasa and Pustaka, 2005.(Malaysia)
* Historical Reality of Nagara Kedah, 
* Personal interview as primary data, Tuanku Nai Long Kasim, Last descendent of the Ayuthia Siamese Muslims King, Kedah 2005
There would seem to have been some kind of curious mistake here. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Malaysian "further reading"?

message: I've added a Qianlong robe as an example of the cultural production of the court. Erodley (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: (1) Manchus had never consider themselves to be CHINESE. The Manchu ruling clan Aisin Joro, had never changed into Chinese surname, they always used Aisin Joro until the end of their rule.
:extremely funny like it means anything. Before Opium war, Han people also never considered themselves Chinese because no such thing existed before in the area which is called CHINA by English-speaking people. --Tricia Takanawa (talk) 21:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am putting my contribution here for other editors to read, to arrive at consensus and NPOV.
The Manchu rulers were using 'literary persecution' to shock and frighten any form of opposition. The accusation of individuals began with the authority's own interpretation of the true meaning of the corresponding words, the necessary 'evidence' needed to achieve a  successful persecution would come from further singular interpretation  of the words. The authority would judge any single character (Han sentence is formed by joining of characters) or any single sentence's neutrality; if the authority had decided these words, or sentence were derogative or cynic towards the rulers, then persecution would begin.    
Throughout the entire history of Manchu dynasty, the 'literary persecution' started with individual isolated  cases in Xungji and Kangxi times, then evolved  into a pattern.There were 53 cases of literary persecutions during Qianlong's reign. 
Literary persecution(1)1753. Qianlong had frequently toured the southern part of river(modern day Sujeou area), each time local folks suffered greatly because they had to fund all his expenses. One local official by the name of Lu Lusen, using a higher ranking minister's name, Sun Jiajin, wrote and send an article to Qianlong, pleading with him to stop the tour for the sake of the local suffering folks. The article was very sincere in the wording, so much so that the whole population get to love it. When Qianlong got to know the real author, Lu Lusen was put to death with a thousand small knife cut, his two sons were beheaded, and more than a thousand people were implicated and thrown into jail.
Literary persecution(2)1755. One high ranking scholar Hu zhongjou wrote a poem. The final character is 清(pin yin qing), Qing, the official name of Manchu dynasty. The character that in front of Qing is 浊(pin yin:zhuo), meaning dirty, muddy. Qianlong then order him to be beheaded, because he dared to put 'dirty' in front of Qing, showing disrespect towards the Manchu dynasty.
Literary persecution(3)1778. A deceased Jiang Xu poet by the name of Sujun, had left a piece of poem, written many years ago. Qianlong decided that the poem was derogatory towards the Manchus, he then ordered that Sujun's coffin to be unearthed, his corpse to be mutilated, all his children and grandchildren and the local officials to be beheaded. 
The above information is sourced and translated from Baidu Baike, an online Chinese encyclopedia. I am ready to discuss with other editors to reach a consensus before I put the above information into the main article.Arilang1234 (talk) 23:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, Arilang1234!!  Because of what it says at Baidu Baike#Copyright, I think the text in that encyclopedia is copyrighted, and that we can't include a translation of it in English Wikipedia.  We can include short quotes, but not long like your contribution above.  Or, you can re-write the information in a new way, not just a translation. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 02:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requesting consensus discussion

message: I just reverted good-faith edits by an nonymous IP address. The dates in the article were not wrong, but they can be really confusing. Just a few clarifications:
*"Qianlong" is an "era name" or "reign period" (nianhao 年號). In the Ming and Qing dynasties, all emperors only had one era name and are therefore known by that era name (Wanli, Kangxi, Guangxu, etc.). Since rulers of previous dynasties usually had several era names, they're known by their posthumous temple name (Emperor Taizong of Tang, Emperor Huizong of Song, etc.).
*In the Ming and Qing dynasties, era names always started on the first day of the lunar year that followed the emperor's enthronement. This is why an emperor could start his real reign up to almost 12 months before "his" era name started.
*The man known as "the Qianlong emperor" was enthroned on October 18, 1795: 10 days after his father the Yongzheng Emperor died. But his era name only started on February 12, 1736, the first day of the next lunar year. In the Chinese calendar, that day was the first day of the first month of the first year of the Qianlong era (乾隆元年正月初一日 or QL1.1.1). But by then, the emperor had reigned for 4 months already.
*Sometime in 1795, the emperor decided to pass his throne to his son. That son (who reigned under the era name Jiaqing) was crowned on the first day of the lunar year: February 8, 1796 (JQ1.1.1). The Qianlong emperor reigned until the day before that. So there was indeed a mistake in the wiki: a one-day mistake about the last day of the emperor's reign. I've corrected it.
*Finally, the dates "1736-1795" are not wrong, but they're a shortcut. They mean: "the Qianlong era started in 1736 and lasted until the lunar year that roughly corresponds with 1795."
I hope this clarifies the problem! Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 01:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Qianlong emperor's reign vs. the Qianlong "era name" 

message: 1) Manchus never consider themselves to be CHINESE. The Manchu ruling clan Aisin Joro, had never changed into Chinese surname, they always used Aisin Joro until the end of their rule. .Arilang1234 (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are there all this kind of issues w.r.t minority dynasties in China? Why hasn't anyone questioned that William I of England was king of England since he was absolutely French (Norwegian) or James I of England was king of England since he was kinda James VI of Scotland? Did William, the Conqueror even speak English? At least Qianlong was pretty good at Chinese.--Tricia Takanawa (talk) 21:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the debate on whether Manchu people are considered Chinese 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:The Qianlong Emperor in Ceremonial Armour on Horseback.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on October 11, 2011. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2011-10-11. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng  {chat} 16:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:The Qianlong Emperor in Ceremonial Armour on Horseback.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: In the lede, I changed "China" to "China proper" to avoid opening a can of worms (or stones), since the lede is not the place to debate whether the Qing Empire was or was not "China." I also removed note #1 "The Qing Emperors referred their state as China in international treaties." First, the note was to only one treaty by one emperor, not "treaties" by "emperors," and second, the text of the treaty in Chinese shows something which is quite interesting but not relevant to this article. That is, where the English (surely written by the British) says "China," the Chinese says 大清 (Da Qing), or "Great Qing." The text does go on to use 中國人 Zhongguoren, that is, "Zhongguo people" or "Chinese," and later speaks of British who live in 中國. This backs up the idea that 大清 was a larger concept of an empire in which 中國 was only a part. But this level of nicety is not needed for the lede here, so I hope that "China proper" will do. ch (talk) 04:44, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede: Fourth Ruler of China Proper 

message: *
http://books.google.com/books?id=pFYUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=Miao+++colloquial&source=bl&ots=6Nlm9HTAAm&sig=RgSayWs-y4uze8cyEcFlBJF5OoU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WqB7UJDuN4bu0gHq84C4Dw&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Miao%20%20%20colloquial&f=false
Ghressho (talk) 05:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poem by qianlong 

message: What is the standard way to give the Wade-Giles romanization for the emperors? The Yongzheng Emperor article and Kangxi Emperor articles, for instance, give a confusing but consistent form which doesn't give prominence to the romanization which is used in much of the earlier western writings. Another problem is that the ' is most often omitted in popular writing, but "K'ang" is correct Wade-Giles. Should we include both "Kang Hsi" and "K'ang Hsi"? ch (talk) 20:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no... The word "Emperor" in "Ch'ien-lung Emperor" is not wade-giles. "Ch'ien-lung ti" is wade-giles and "Ch'ien-lung Emperor" is not. It does not concern me what exact way it is romanized (apostroph or not...), but the forementioned situation is mix-and-match and it's throughout the Qing rulers articles. If the older English spelling is written, then don't mark it as wade-giles...and if the romanization is given, then go ahead and mark it as wade-giles. --Cold Season (talk) 22:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the elucidation. Now I see your point.ch (talk) 02:27, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Kang Hsi" is wrong Wade-Giles, so it should not be presented as Wade-Giles. Make a redirect for it, but I would not recommend putting it in the lead unless it's a really, really popular rendering (popular enough to be the article title). Otherwise, it will mislead people who convert it to pinyin in their heads (to pronounce it, or look up characters) as "Gang Xi". In general, there is an unfortunate tendency for some Wikipedia articles (and some books, from which they might be sourced) to represent all older romanizations (including Postal Map and non-systematic) as "Wade-Giles". Shrigley (talk) 08:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can we just ditch Wade-Giles entirely ? It's such a disastrously awful piece of work, leading to more mispronunciations worldwide than any other academic abortion I can think of. Let's abolish that mess from the face of the earth ! 203.160.86.132 (talk) 09:16, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wade-Giles? 

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(欽定)遼金元三史國語解
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欽定遼金元三史國語解四十六卷
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This is specifically on the Liao dynasty (Khitan) language
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Title	From philosophy to philology: intellectual and social aspects of change in late Imperial China
UCLA Asian Pacific monograph series
Author	Benjamin A. Elman
Edition	2, illustrated
Publisher	UCLA Asian Pacific Monograph Series, 2001
, 9781883191047
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Title	The Emperor's Four Treasuries: Scholars and the State in the Late Chʻien-lung Era
Volume 129 of Harvard East Asian monographs, ISSN 0073-0483
Author	R. Kent Guy
Edition	annotated
Publisher	Harvard Univ Asia Center, 1987
, 9780674251151
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http://books.google.com/books?id=bFA6a60_5LgC&pg=PA163#v=onepage&q&f=false
104-105
http://www.academia.edu/6928995/The_Literati_Rewriting_of_China_in_the_Qianlong-Jiaqing_Transition
Qiwowen Kiyan
Qinding Liao Jin Yuan sanshi guoyu jie 欽定遼金元三史國語解 Imperially-certified Explanation of Words from their Respective National Languages Found in the Histories of the Liao, Jin, and Yuan dynasties
Kiyan/Kiyad originally rendered as Qiwowen or Qiyuete
Corrected to Quete
45 Qinding Liao Jin Yuan sanshi guoyujie (Imperially-certified explanation of words from their respective national languages found in the histories of the Liao, Jin, and Yuan dynasties), v. 296:1–4.46 
47 Qinding Liao Jin Yuan sanshi guoyujie, v. 296:270 ( juan 3:1a–b).
48 Qinding waifan Menggu Huibu wanggong biaozhuan (Imperially-certified tables and biographies of the princes and dukes of the outer feudatories of Mongolia and the Muslim regions), v. 454:217 ( juanshou, 1a–2b). 
176
http://www.academia.edu/6928985/Empire_and_the_Circulation_of_Frontier_Intelligence_Qing_Conceptions_of_the_Ottomans
Qinding waifan Menggu Huibu wanggong biaozhuan
152 - 153
Mongolian khungghar Ottoman hunkār
153
魯迷 Lumi Rum Rumi Rome Ming dynasty 
魯迷城 Istanbul
154
度爾格 Du'erge
Zhifang wai ji 職方外紀 Record of countries outside the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Operations by Giulio Aleni
156
Tulišen
Tuliyesike guowang Gongka'er han 圖里耶斯科國王供喀爾汗 Turiyesk'o gurun i Gungk'ar han  the King of Turkey, Khungghar Khan
157
Mongolian: Khungghar Hongke'er 烘克爾 
Du'erke 都兒克
164
紅噶爾國之汗所居拱斯當底訥伯勒和屯 Hongga'er guo zhi han suoju Gongsidangdinebole hetun, the city of Constantinople, seat of the Khan of the Khungghar Kingdom
都爾佳國 Du'erjia guo
Hoton is walled city in Manchu, transcribed as Hetun in Chinese characters
167
Khungghar 孔喀爾 Kongka'er Rum is Laum in Manchu Yong-gui 永貴 Manchu Bannerman
168
Rumu 如木 Khungghar
169
務魯木 Wulumu Rum Manchu Plain Blue Banner Changbai clan Qi-yi-shi (courtesy name Chunyuan)
171 
Third Panchen Lama
Shambhala'i-lam yig (Guidebook to Shambhala) Ottoman Empire = Rum Sham gyi yul.   Arabic- aš-šām
Mecca = Khung-du-khur padshah, Khung-khur padshah
174
Qinding huangyu Xiyu tuzhi  欽定皇輿西域圖志 Imperially certified  illustrated gazetteer of the Western Regions in the imperial domain
176
Pingding Zhunga'er fanglüe 平定準噶爾方略 History of the campaign to pacify the Zhunghars
Qinding Xiyu tongwen zhi 欽定西域同文志 Imperially certified treatise on standardized transcriptions of [names concerning] the Western Rgions
Qinding Liao Jin Yuan sanshi guoyu jie 欽定遼金元三史國語解 Imperially certified explanation of [terms from the respective] dynastic languages in the standard histories of the Liao, Jin, and Yuan dynasties
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Languages these Han scholars mastered
Yu Minzhong 于敏中
manchu
Qian Daxin 錢大昕 
mongolian
Liu Xigu 劉錫嘏
manchu
Page 182
1731 1787 巖長明 Yan Chang Ming from Nanjing
Languages mastered
Mongolian, Mongolian in Oirat Todo script, Tibetan
http://books.google.com/books?id=B05dAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA241&dq=yan+changming+mongolian&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mh82VKz9F8OZyATStoLYAg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=yan%20changming%20mongolian&f=false
http://www.epailive.com/items/4/3/69506.shtml
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2081763022
186
Khung-khur Rumsham Tibetan 1889 Rosary of White Lotuses Piotr Klafkowski
187
1845 ten boxes of Russian books translated into Chinese
Pingding Konggu'er fanglüe 平定空谷爾方略 Campaign History of the Pacification of Khungghar
Konggu'er guozhi 空谷爾國誌 An Account of the Country of Khungghar
Page 189
Qi Yunshi 祁韻士1751 1815 1778 Jinshi
Learned Manchu at Hanlin
韻士 1751 1815
祁韻士 Chʻi, Yün-shih
祈韻士, 1751-1815 Qi Yunshi
http://www.ts.cn/big5/culture/content/2009-03/30/content_3928693.htm
http://idp.bl.uk/pages/collections_ch.a4d
http://idp.dha.ac.cn/pages/collections_ch.a4d
http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85268676/
http://riccilibrary.usfca.edu/listAuthor.aspx?authorID=7860
http://searchworks.stanford.edu/?f%5Bauthor_person_facet%5D%5B%5D=Qi%2C+Yunshi%2C+1751-1815&q=%22China+History+Sources.%22&search_field=subject_termsmn
http://www.worldcat.org/title/xi-yu-shi-di/oclc/173520049/editions?start_edition=11&sd=desc&referer=di&se=yr&editionsView=true&fq=
http://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ClassifyDemo?owi=6909766
http://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ClassifyDemo?swid=13508826
http://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ClassifyDemo?swid=145102431
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Cheng Tongwen 程同文 1799 Jinshi edited the part ofmDa Qing huidian relating to the maps of Qinghai and Tibet and the Lifanyuan (Court of Colonial Affairs)
Learned Mongolian
195
tuliyasike tuliya 圖里雅 Prussia Pulishe 普里社
196
Tu'erqi 土耳其 
Kangsitanyinuoge'er 康思坦貽諾格爾 Constantinople
197
Hungary Xiongyali guo 匈牙利國
198
Magyars Majia 馬加 
Huns Henni 狠尼 
Magyar Khan Majia Han馬加汗 
Deji 嘚𠼻
Khungghar
空喀爾
http://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=en&chapter=901550
http://wenxian.fanren8.com/06/13/8/51.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=S1MrAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA5-PA46&lpg=RA5-PA46&dq=空喀爾&source=bl&ots=Sn7KpkNBjW&sig=TifWjpqIbLTWwW_EuwA0Gt0rVug&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Gk42VI6QDIqNyAT0hoEQ&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=空喀爾&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=nZYsAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT1131&lpg=PT1131&dq=空喀爾&source=bl&ots=UjGtCKwIf5&sig=9CS9vujq_Coz1uNT91VOrLVOU4U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Gk42VI6QDIqNyAT0hoEQ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=空喀爾&f=false
空谷爾
http://books.google.com/books?id=QbYqAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA3-PA111&dq=空谷爾&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8k82VKWxA8ezyATJ_4GgAg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=空谷爾&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=0yC61vLZjaUC&pg=PA10&dq=空谷爾&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8k82VKWxA8ezyATJ_4GgAg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=空谷爾&f=false
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欽定外藩蒙古回部王公表傳
Qinding Waifan Menggu Huibu wanggong biaozhuan
Imperially-certified Tables and Biographies of the Princes and Dukes of the Outer Feudatories of Mongolia and the Muslim Regions
http://www.qinghistory.cn/qsyj/ztyj/bjmz/2007-09-14/25358.shtml
http://www.baike.com/wiki/钦定外藩蒙古回部王公表传n
《欽定外藩蒙古回部王公表傳》
http://ctext.org/library.pl?if=en&res=5972
http://www.sou-yun.com/eBookIndex.aspx?id=1550
http://ourartnet.com/Siku_02/0454/0454_213_046/0454_213_046.htm
http://ourartnet.com/Siku_02/0454/0454_213_046/pages/0053_jpg.htm
https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=1232766&disp=%26%23x6b3d%3B%26%23x5b9a%3B%26%23x5916%
欽定外藩蒙古回部王公表傳·卷四~卷九
https://archive.org/details/06064133.cn
欽定外藩蒙古回部王公表傳·卷九十九~卷一百七
https://archive.org/details/06064148.cn
欽定外藩蒙古回部王公表傳·卷十~卷十三
https://archive.org/details/06064134.cn
Rajmaan (talk) 07:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on 欽定遼金元三史國語解 

message: I see no wikiquote article has been created for Qianlong yet.
There is a whole group of fake quotes that Han nationalists around the internet are attributing to Qing Emperors. One of them was "朕乃夷狄之君,非中國之人." (I am a barbarian monarch, not Chinese (Zhongguoren)) claimed to be said by Qianlong. 
This is fake, and cannot be found in any Qing document by Qianlong. And Qing Emperors did refer to Manchus as "中國之人."
Not only that, the Qing Emperors in real life got angry when Han people referred to Manchus as 夷 (barbarian) since it was considered an insult and people who used that word to refer to Manchus were liable to be executed. A Manchu would never have referred to himself as 夷.
Another fake quote I put on Cixi's wikiquote under "Misattributed".
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Empress_Dowager_Cixi
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yongzheng_Emperor
Rajmaan (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  forged quotes 

message: Substituted at 03:36, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I don't know what day the Qianlong Emperor was crowned. I do know it wasn't the 39th of October. 134.228.163.150 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Coronation

message: I forgot to add the reasons for my latest edits. I added the birth dates and death dates for the Empresses and some imperial concubines. Also added the titles for 2 concubines and 1 noble lady. Maria0215 (talk) 01:07, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consorts birth/death dates 

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message: I think, Su fei-erh? Хомелка (talk) 10:25, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Su Forty-three 

message: Since his tomb was looted, it was sort of restored and open to the public, and I recently found a photo of his coffin on Wikimedia Commons thanks to Wikidata showing it. Should I put it on the page, or is it to much? TomMasterRealTALK 19:09, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomb 

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has more on the southern tours. Currently the article inexplicably only mentions them in the legend section and seems to be whining about their deep cultural importance ("why are you people even talking about this? other people moved in a southern direction at some points!") instead of talking about them and what their importance has been. — LlywelynII 14:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for further article expansion