Talk:Bible Dictionary (LDS Church)

message: When it talks about the coming forth of the Bible Dictionary as a result of the work of the Scriptures Publications Committee, reference is made to the work Thomas S. Monson did on it. It first referred to him as Apostle Monson, then someone changed it to President Monson. However, during the period of time discussed, Monson held neither of these titles. Conventionally, it is never correct to refer to a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as "Apostle ________." For the last at least 40 years, they have been referred to as "Elder" or "President" (the latter being applied ONLY to the President or Acting President of the Quorum). At the time Monson did this work, his proper title was "Elder". Since this work was done in the past, I have changed Monson's title to "then-Elder Thomas S. Monson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles." I have done so because I do not consider it proper conventionally to refer to someone as "President" before they had that title, and Monson only got the title of "President" some 16 years after the period of time described in the article. Consequently, this change has been made. Any thoughts? --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 20:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of change just made 

message: According the the Bruce R. McConkie article, Mormon Doctrine is a major source for the BD. That is not mentioned here at all. Is it true? If so, it should be added to this article. If not, it should be removed from the other. Thmazing (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, I've "heard" that a lot, and people claim that the BD quotes portions of Mormon Doctrine verbatim (I've never bothered to check if I can see this for myself), but I have never seen anything written about this outside of Mormon blog posts, etc. I think it's probably recorded somewhere that McConkie was on the scriptures committee that was headed by Monson, but I've never seen anything that has explicitly stated who did what. It's also often said he (McC) "wrote" the chapter headings in the LDS scriptures, but again I've never seen a source that states this. However, I should point out that I'm not a big reader of BRM biographies. Perhaps it is in one of those? Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps. I haven't read them either and Google Books is not forthcoming. So it looks like we have verifiability problems here. Thmazing (talk) 23:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is this, but it seems a little anemic on its own. Thmazing (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw that the "Mormon Doctrine → BD" claim is given the reference: Horne, Dennis B. (2000). Bruce R. McConkie: Highlights From His Life & Teachings. Eborn Books. . Of course, no page number provided because it's used as a generic reference across multiple notes. I'd like to see what it says in that book about the issue, but I doubt very much I can get access to a copy. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah..... I'm not really willing to pay that much to check a reference. Thmazing (talk) 21:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BRMcConkie