Talk:Freddy Adu

message: Look at the webpages for Adriano, Robinho and Michael Owen, none of them list these strikers as "Prodigious Soccer Talents."  Earlier someone said that Adu was such because numerous scouts label him as such.  However, i'm sure those scouts wouldn't label him as better than Adriano or Owen, certainly not Robinho.  The simple fact is that Adu is simply not that well known outside the United States, calling him a "Prodigious Soccer Talent" is the opinion of a couple people, not the collective whole.  Thus i've changed the opening sentence to better reflect the standard for soccer players around the world.  By saying he is a "Ghanaian born American soccer player."  Any claims to fame should be included in the text following the introductory sentence and sourced if they are likely to cause controvery...like his talent, which is under constant debate. Batman2005 23:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll break this down for you one at a time.  First off, you've shown your immaturity by calling me ignorant, but we'll let that slide.  Second, You've offered NO sources that say that Adu is a soccer prodigy.  I'm sorry, but you are not a source, your inclusion of this information is a violation of NPOV and Original Research.  You further reflect your point of view by saying that the debate about his talent is merely "hating."  However, you fail to reference the numerous articles ESPN.com has run from Greg Lalas, among others, questioning his ability, attitude, committment, and overall facility for playing against grown men.  Third, your sad attempt to educate me on what a prodigy is was laughable, but lets get back to the real issue here.  A user has requested a source for a piece of information that is controversial, you have failed to give it on two occasions now...the information should be removed until YOU can provide a reputable source specifically saying that Adu is a soccer prodigy.  If you cannot, then it is Original Research, end of story.  Nobody is doubting his credentials as man of the match...twice!  WOW!  or MLS player of the week.  Your statement that he was one of the best players on the field with the likes of Zidane and Ronaldo further shows where your opinions are, but that's not important.  Additionally, lets look again at the ESPN.com archives where both Sir Alex and Jose Murinho were quoted as saying that they have NO interest in Adu at this time, and haven't made inquiries into signing him to their clubs.  If you can't provide sources for your PSV and Real claims, then I'll pass them off as original research too.  A few quotes from Pele and MLS coaches does not equal a prodigy, a published source from a reputable soccer magazine, internet article, or a knowledgeable soccer expert specifically saying that he is a prodigy will suffice for me.  I've asked for a source, not boyish attitude from you.  If you can't provide a source then the information will be removed, if you continue to revert, I'll ask an administrator to step in and settle the dispute, which according to wikipedia guidelines about citing controversial information, you would surely lose. I suggest looking for a source calling him a prodigy, rather than arguing further, if you can find one, terrific, i'll be happy to repost the information myself, if not...it won't be included. Batman2005 03:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Of course you can't 'prove' or 'disprove' that someone is a prodigy. All you can do is find supporting evidence. However, the fact that Adu was not able to be selected in the 2006 World Cup, to my mind anyway, suggests that the jury is still out on this question. --Alexxx1 (talk/contribs) 00:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prodigious Soccer Talent? Debatable...

message: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,283-2028147,00.html
::There you go, you were able to provide a source, now I have no problem with it being included in the article.  I do, however, think that a better first sentence would read Freddy Adu (full name:Fredua Koranteng Adu) (born June 2, 1989 in Tema) is a Ghanaian born American soccer player who gained fame when, at the age of 14, he signed a professional contract with MLS, making him the youngest professional athlete in modern history.  We could then include the prodigy information, with your newly acquired sources of course, in the paragraph about his soccer career.  As i'm sure you'll agree, he's more notable for his youth at this point, than his talent.  What are your thoughts? Batman2005 04:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The most famous American players in Europe are Keller, Howard, Friedel and Adu, there's no two ways about it. I've never even seen Adu play, but I have heard of his talent at such a young age. He is a prodigy. Landon Donovan is moderately well-known, on a par with perhaps Reyna and Hahnemann. By the way, I'm from England. -- Boothman /tɔːk/. 21:15, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freddy referred to as a prodigy

message: Could someone provide source info for the assertions that Freddy turned down youth deals with AC Milan and EPL clubs?  Streamless 14:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Freddy's youth deals with AC Milan and EPL clubs

message: It seems to me that this article states several things that can be questionable without citations from reputable sources. I have removed one item stating that he may be moving to Europe after an undisclosed MLS season for a deal with one of two clubs. There are still other items in this article that I think are questionable, for example:
- "He has stated though that he is unsure who he will represent as an adult player--the U.S. or Ghana": this could be reworded, but I'm not sure if it is even necessary. I'll leave it in, but I vote for it to be removed.
I have vandalized this page! Nobody deleted it! For shame, somebody sohuld have realized that Manchester United have made no such claim. Let this be a lesson to you!--86.142.92.126 22:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Facts and speculations

message: I've seen that info been on and off the article. Can someone put the source of the article if there was a break-up. I haven't been aware of any break-up article on the main networks (CNN, TSN, CTV, etc) and I haven't noticed anything abotu it on Google search (as of Friday October 6). I've tagged it on the JoJo article requiring a citation. I may have miss it, but one should put the dating and if break-up indeed, mention it with source. Thank you!--JForget 21:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand why people keep erasing it. I haven't heard anything about a breakup though. --Awiseman 22:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is so frustrating, people keep deleting it. Here's a post article that says it. . If this keeps happening I'm going to ask for protection on the article. --Awiseman 16:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, don't delete it. This is ridiculous. I made a new personal life section, hopefully that will stay. --AW 10:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That post article doesnt say anything about them breaking up... but Im not gonna delete it because you will probably just put it back up and ask for protection for no reason.Zib 05:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[JoJo (singer)|JoJo]]

message: Am no wikipedia user but I just want to notice that it says to the right of the page under picture that he is 37 years old?
Must be an error there cus it says hes born in 1969 instead of 1989. As i check what was written inside the article i saw it had 1989 on those lines.. So how come it says 1969 then? If someone could fix this it would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.33.134 (talk • contribs) 
Im think it would be fair to say that questions about his 'real age' have followed him his whole career.
"In Africa, the player who does not lower his age cannot be professional [in Europe], it's a reality." - Guirane N'Daw, former Senegalese international player. https://www.kickoff.com/news/articles/world-news/categories/news/african-football/guirane-n-daw-confesses-age-cheating-claims-99-of-senegal-footballers-are-guilty/674139  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.185.200 (talk) 11:04, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Age

message: "He has so far played only one friendly international for the USA men's national team, and until he appears in a competitive international match, is still eligible to switch allegiances and play for Ghana." - I'm not an expert, but I don't think this is how this works. There are several players who play at u-21 level for one country and are not allowed to change later on. A cap is a cap, regardless whether it was a freindly or not.
I remember reading somewhere FIFA had a kind of amnesty, where u-21 capped players could switch, but the deadline has long since passed. In my opinion Adu is now limited to the USA team only. Grunners 18:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's totally incorrect.  Until a player appears in a competitive match for a country they can switch at any time.  If a 30 year old Mexican American plays in friendly matches for Mexico and then is offered a spot with the USA team he is allowed to play for that team.  Of course the player must have citizenship in both countries, but once a player plays in a competitive match, they are tied to that team for good.  Since Adu only played in a friendly he could still play for Ghana if he wanted. Batman2005 03:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we have any kind of an independent article discussing FIFA regs on player nationality, the history of nationality and dual nationality in football, and issue of "mercenaries" (and accusations of such), and so on?  I'm starting to think we should start a co-operative article along the lines of Nationality in football (soccer) if there isn't something similar already. Bill Oaf 03:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Eligibility for Ghana

message: Hi, i edited the Controversy section to make it have no point of view in it. If you feel it is still expressing point of view please edit it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olir (talk • contribs) 
:The section isn't sourced, which is why I removed it - thus it appears to be your opinion. You can't say things like "many fans believe..." unless you have a valid source. I am going to remove it again, and please don't add it back unless you have sources for that section. See your talk page for more about this please. --AW 18:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ive added a couple of references, not sure how to make them neat.Olir 18:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the attempt to reference the section (and for signing your post). However, they don't really say what the section does  - they don't say anything about him being "stolen" by rich countries, nor do they say anything like "Many fans believe this to be a fast growing deadly problem that international football is going to face". I appreciate your efforts, but the section as it's written now doesn't belong. Sorry. --AW 19:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: controversy section

message: Wasn't Adu traded to Real Salt Lake?
Zarif 00:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Real Salt Lake

message: Was it Nowak's own assertion that Ajax has an established youth academy as opposed to Manchester United, or is it the view of the author(s)? I feel that this isn't made clear. Also, I think that anybody can see that Manchester United has a youth academy to match any other, making the assertion somewhat dubious.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 137.222.10.113 (talk • contribs).
I agreeJake22 03:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nowak

message: Regarding these edits. According to the source provided, nothing is set in stone yet. "expect Adu to move to Europe, if not now then after this MLS season. He wants it. MLS wants it. And there appears to be enough demand from Europe following his Under-20 World Cup performance to make it happen.", it says. That source is two days old. these ones are much more recent, and they all state, from Carlisle to Salt Lake, that the deal is not yet done.
We should only include the transfer when it is confirmed, personal terms have been agreed, and the medical has been passed.--Dreaded Walrus  t c 15:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His contract at Salt Lake ran until the end of this (calendar) year, expiring on 31 December 2008. While this is pure speculation on my part, I'm willing to bet that this deal includes a large sell-on percentage, and perhaps some kind of Feeder/Parent club relationship there, though the former is far more likely than the latter I'd say. While Freddy Adu isn't quite as promising as he was 4 years ago, he's still rather good for his age, and normally, on the European market, this kind of player would fetch at absolute minimum £3-4m. $2m really is quite a bargain, which is why I feel there is probably a next-sale percentage there. --Dreaded Walrus  t c 16:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm correct! "Besides the transfer fee, MLS is in position to gain a percentage of any future transfer of Adu from Benfica to another club, Gazidis said." --Dreaded Nostradamus 18:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Benfica

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thread_title: WikiProject class rating

message: Can we please get the fans of freddy adu, or the people who dont know anything about soccer.  to stop posting to this page.  they are deleting facts from articles that are already placed on the page.  And most of their stuff dont make any sense.  "He was selected for the 2006 MLS Semifinals."   Alot of links that they are quoting are dead links as well. dr moos and dreaded walrus are not even reading the facts that people are placing on the page they are just deleting it because obviously they are big freddy fans, and they dont want facts on the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.96.92 (talk) 08:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See my response here. Dreaded Walrus  t c 08:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from top of talk page

message: What do y'all think of the theory that Freddy has been much older than stated all along? (I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I wonder about this one…)Historian932 (talk) 00:17, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake birth certificate?

message: Also, if you are going to keep this locked, you owe it to us to keep more up to date on news about Freddy Adu. He is a big name who is familiar to millions. You  have missed all of this.
http://www.google.com/search?q=fc+sion+adu&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws:1,sbd:1&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=w4ByTJXtL4b4sAP76dGpCw&ved=0CBYQpwU
24.18.70.202 (talk) 14:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The page has been temporarily semi-protected due to vandalism. You can edit by logging into an account, or by using , but you have to include a specific proposed edit. --Bsherr (talk) 17:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Please either unlock or keep up to data on this big-name, famous individual

message: Please pass ownership of this page onto someone who actually cares about this information and who keeps up with changes to Freddy Adu's career. Freddy Adu is a FAMOUS player, and it is irresponsible and defeats the purpose of Wikipedia to keep this page locked if you don't have someone who updates it.
Freddy Adu does NOT play for Benfica. They own his contract, but he does NOT play for them. He plays for Aris Thessaloniki of Greece. He is listed on their official site as being one of their players (he is not on the Benfica site). What more do you need than that! Oh, and go check Freddy Adu's Twitter site. He even states that he has chosen Aris!!!
Semi-editing isn't good enough here. If you need to keep it locked, then STAY ON TOP of the news so you post accurate, current information.
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24.18.70.202 (talk) 18:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Please pass ownership of this page along, thank you.

message: It is quite clear that Freddy Adu has a contract with Benfica and it is equally clear that he has not played for Benfica since ate 2007/early 2008 (don't know which offhand). He has been loaned to a succession of other professional teams since. Now, I stand to be corrected about the term "play" if it can be shown that, in some arcane football language, play includes not playing but being on loan. If that info can not be provided, please leave that aspect of the intro paragraph alone, please. AlbertHall (talk) 22:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Albert you are correct that the intro needs updating however, "contract is owned by" is not a term used in football, plays for is the correct term. It should say plays for Çaykur Rizespor, on loan from Benfica. Also "past several years" is vague and will not make sense in the future, dates should be used. Finally "played for several other teams on loan" provides no information about his career either all of the teams should be listed or preferably just the current one as the intro is already fairly long. Adam4267 (talk) 22:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Much better now. Thank you. AlbertHall (talk) 00:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your welcome mate. I just hope you didn't think I was being petty when I removed your additions they were good but just worded slightly wrong.Adam4267 (talk) 11:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy of information 

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message: he was born in june 1989 and debuted in january 2004. --82.139.5.13 (talk) 18:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  is he youngest player to debut in professional association football ??? 

message: I've just updated his career stats but have noticed the table is missing a column for his continental appearances? This is despite the fact he played 3 CL games for Benfica in the 07/08 season. He also made two appearances in the Copa Sudamericana for Bahia.Cam Melling (talk) 17:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Career statistics

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