Talk:Wii/Archive 21

message: Any idea on which physical principle it works?--Nemissimo II 09:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wii Remote#Sensing. JQF 17:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm guessing infrared, like most remotes use. Jecowa 05:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The bar has infrared LEDs on each side, and the Wiimote detects these and uses this to estimate where on the screen it is pointing. TheWarlock 16:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sensor bar  

message: I've heard that NES, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, and GameCube games work on the Wii system. Is that true? If it is, I think it should be mentioned in the article. Voortle 03:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite, some of them will be part of the Virtual Console (which IS mentioned in the article). The GameCube games part is mentioned though under the Backwards Compatibility section. TJ Spyke 03:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can download NES, SNES, N64, Sega Genesis and TurboGrafx-16 games onto the Wii for a price. The price is from $5 to $10. You can play the Gamecube games straight from the Cube disc in the Wii. For more detailed infomation, see the Virtual Console (Wii) article. dposse 17:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think its worth mentioning that the wii is the only 7th gen console that is fully backwards compatable with its predessesor? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J.L.Main (talk • contribs) 23:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NES, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64 and GameCube games

message: Nintendo has created a false shortage in the United States with the Wii. Unlike the PS3, which involves a new technology, there are no parts or chips in the Wii that are in short supply; thus there is no reason to make it unavailable to people during the holiday season. Based on sales of Game Cube and DS, Nintendo had to have had an idea of what to produce and put into the market place, and would surely want the fourth quarter sales.  It will be unfortunate if children bear the brunt of this cold marketing ploy. Shore828 - can't find a tilde on my keyboard.
:Do you have a source for this information? Just64helpin 22:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's not forget how Microsoft created a false shortage of 360's last year when they decided to not have a single U.S. factory producing the units, and shipping them by -- well, ship.  Lol.  Speculation and POV, non worthy of inclusion.  --Stratadrake 23:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

text: What do you mean by "false shortage"? The fact that you can't find a Wii in the store? If so, like Just64helpin said, do you have a source for this? Second, and most importantly, is this noteworthy, or just a PS3 fanboy thing?--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 23:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a fanboy thing. The assumption that Nintendo, or any company, has essentially unlimited manufacturing capability has got to be. No new technology, wakkawakkawakka, etc. 00:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: And let's all remember that a surplus of demand is not the same thing as a lack of supply.  --Stratadrake 01:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They've sold out pretty quickly. This speaks more of the Wii's popularity than anything else, since it's sold over a million worldwide in under a month. That's a lot, even if Nintendo were manufacturing them quickly, that's still a lot. JONJONAUG 12:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: In my area Wal-Marts (at least the two I asked) were stocked with 20 Wii units on launch. The Hastings in my town was given (hearsay). Anyway, Wal-Mart can't fix the shortage. I'm sure Wal-Mart would love to sell more Wiis if they had them. Jecowa 02:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Best Buy has an agreement with Nintendo to be the primary retailer for Wii.  Just like they were for the XBOX 360.  This may have affected distribution to other stores. As an employee there I can agree that the demand for the systems is more than anyone ( including Nintendo) ever expected.Bf shade 07:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Reggie Fils-Aime himself (at the E3 2006 Nintendo Press Conference) stated that the Wii is not Next Generation but New Generation... now we all know Reggie is a very smart man just look at his credentials it would be very odd also given the scope of the English language to misguide his audience with false information... If he didn't want people to take what he said literally then he would have used different vocabulary.  69.116.77.160 23:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 1)That has nothing to do with this section. 2)That was just PR talk (since he was still in the PR department at the time). TJ Spyke 23:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: False shortage?

message: Please can I add an external link?
http://www.ntsc-uk.com/feature.php?featuretype=hdw&fea=NintendoWiiHardwareReview —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Charlesr (talk • contribs) 10:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't have any links to a review of the system itself yet. Presently in the unofficial category we have three game review sites and a forum site linked. I'd rather have this page than the IGN and GameSpot pages linked. The IGN page is a big eyesore and the GameSpot page isn't far behind it. IGN and GameSpot seem really similar, do we need both of them, or either of them? Jecowa 10:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Given the lack of objection, I think that's a yes.  Be bold.  217.206.142.66 15:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link request - ntsc-uk hardware overview 

message: I got rid of the Current Event tag. It's been a couple weeks since the launch, so I think it's appropriate. The PS3 article already had it removed.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 20:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii is launching tomorrow in Australia, and the day after in Europe. I think that's current. The PS3 had it removed because it won't launch in those markets until at least March. TJ Spyke 22:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I suppose we should add it tomorrow, then. Just64helpin 22:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was my plan... sorry that I didn't mention that.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has already been released in Australia since it's about 3PM there. So I will add it back in now. TJ Spyke 01:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I really need to remember that there are time zones... thanks TJ...--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Event tag

message: Hehe! Ok, I wont antagonize anyone anymore about whether or not the Wii is in direct competition with its fellow 7th gen consoles (It actually seems to be in competition with the DS more) but should Iwata's friendly jab at Sony be mentioned in our article? I quote, "We aren't planning on competing with the PS3, but we'd like it to be said that in the end, Nintendo sold more." Check it out on IGN if you haven't seen it yet. Nintenboy01 21:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, because it really won't matter even when it comes true.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Should Iwata's Comment Be Mentioned?

message: The launch games table used to be clear and really easy to read but this new one is so confusing it defeats the purpose of having one.
Jimmy93211 00:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it confusing? The regions are all clearly listed in abbreviated form. NA for North America, SA for South America, AST for Australia, EUR for Europe, JPN for Japan... I'm confused as to how you are confused. If you could be more specific, then maybe someone can fix it.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Whats happened to the table!?!

message: Apparently Nintendo exaggerated the amount of units it had sold.  According to NPD, Nintendo sold 473,000 Wii units in North America during the month of November,  this contradicts Nintendo's claim on November 27 that it had sold 600,000 units in North America.   Dionyseus 01:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought NPD only tracked US sales. Even so, Nintendo's figure encompasses more than just North America. Dancter 01:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NPD tracks North America sales, that's Canada and United States.  Nintendo's figures were for North America as they had not yet launched in Japan (Japan launch was on December 2).  Dionyseus 01:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I stand corrected on the NPD thing, but I thought the American launch included Latin American countries. Am I misunderstanding Nintendo's terminology? Dancter 01:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, it seems that NPD often reports Canadian and US sales separately. Why are we to assume they mean North America this time, when every source I've seen specifically mentions that the figure is for the United States? Dancter 02:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the first time I ever heard of NPD reporting Canada and US sales data seperately, do you have any evidence of this?  I think when Gamedaily and Gamespot said US in their report of NPD's report, they meant to say North America.  Furthermore, shipments to Canada are tiny compared to shipments to the United States, for example for the North American launch of the Xbox 360, only a little over 30,000 were shipped to Canada. Dionyseus 02:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those numbers you just mentioned were from NPD, in which case the GameSpot and IGN articles quoted only the US statistics, and did not factor in the Canadian sales. In both cases, the wording was loose, implying but not stating that the numbers were for North America overall. I suspect that this would be the more likely error if there were one in the case of the November Wii numbers, but considering the wording, I think that the sources can be trusted to mean the United States. Regardless, we don't have the sales information for the other countries, so I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that Nintendo misrepresented its sales for the Americas. Dancter 03:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently you are right about NPD releasing US and Canada sales figures seperately.  However, I highly doubt that Canada would make up for the unaccounted 124,000 consoles.  Perhaps User:Jecowa is right that Nintendo meant that they shipped 600,000 to retailers.  Dionyseus 05:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I think when Nintendo said they sold 600,000 in America, they meant they sold that many to retailers. The most Nintendo would know is how many they sold to the retailers and which retailers are asking for more units, right? Jecowa 01:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: if xbox sold 10% of thier initial sails to canada than it makes sence that nintendo would also.  even if it were only 60K, with the addition of latin america it would come pretty close to 100k that is seemingly missing.  i'm going to say the nintendo probably just rounded up.J.L.Main 02:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The NPD data released covers the US only. Nintendo said they sold 600K in the AMERICAS, meaning it includes Columbia and Peru (where they launched in South America) and Mexico. TJ Spyke 00:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  False sales data 

message: : some should really add a section already about wii remotes being thrown into TVs, vcrs, wii's, people, etc. anyone need reference? check http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com . masterhand10
::This has been addressed in the wii remote article. (And I thought it was addressed in this talk page somewhere, too) Since it's related more to the wiimote than to the wii as a console, that's where the strap breakages have been mentioned. Bladestorm 17:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It made Reuters, should be notable.  WP 04:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While although it's a notable concept in general, I really think that it's more related to the wii remote itself, rather than the wii, as a system. (To that end, it's been included in the wiimote article for a while now. Bladestorm 05:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is just overhype, some people are being careless with their controllers, that's it. TJ Spyke 00:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sites are reporting that replacements now have thicker straps, but this should probably stay on the Wiimote page. - hahnchen 05:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Nintendo has started making thicker straps on all new remotes to address the problem. These are also available on any remotes Nintendo replaces from this point on. Bradibus 21:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not technically a recall (it's a voluntary product replacement; some difference, mainly that it doesn't pose an immediate safety risk and doesn't need replacing), and it is already mentioned. "In response to incidences of strap failures, Nintendo is now offering a stronger replacement of all Wii Remote straps." See the source: . -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 09:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah they did beef up the strap diameter. It went from .024in. to .04in!!!!!Colin Reding 22:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whilst they did increase the size of the strap it's not a recall. They're not instructing anyone who's got a strap to return it as defective. If it was a recall they'd have told everyone with a strap to return it otherwise they'd be open to being sued. By definition this cannot be a recall as it's up to the consumer if they want to get another one. Nintendo are telling people the product isn't defective, because of this htis cannot be a recall, it's as they say, a replacement.BigHairRef | Talk 01:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Assuming you're referring to wiimotes being flung to and fro, wouldn't that be slightly more relevant in the wiimote article? Bladestorm 07:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A summary of the strap breakage problem is currently included in the "Wii Remote" section. We don't need to sensationalize it by documenting extreme cases. Just64helpin 14:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The Wiimote has  NOT been recalled. According to AP, it is a VOLUNTARY RECALL and will cost Nintendo about $1,000,000, or 10 million yen. Yay Nintendo!!!!Only YOU have the guts to do this!
Quatreryukami 16:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The strap replacement info is already in the article. Just64helpin 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Strap Breakages? 

message: Find every occurrence of the word "will" and replace it with "is" or "are" or whatever makes sense. Wii's been out, we're in the present tense...or, we will be. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.117.19.131 (talk) 05:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hurray for find and replace! Jecowa 05:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Just for clarification: you don't want to replace every instance of the word will, Only those referring to the Wii's launch. Bradibus 21:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CTRL+F > "will" > Enter, enter, etc. 

message: If this indeed pans out as a fork in the history of gaming, I think some serious mention of the conceptualizing of the Wii should be made.  I seem to remember Myiamoto speaking in an interview around 1999 or so about his ideal system being one simpe enough to be played with one button.  That stuck out to me at the time as bizarre, but it seems the vision was clear even then.  I don;t have the time or resources to check this out but it might be a fascinating addition to the article. - Plasticbadge 18:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I happen to be working on something quite similar to that. It's a work in progress, and I won't add it until it's just right. Just64helpin 21:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History? 

message: Do we need to have the same thing mentioned twice in the same paragraph? I thought that mentioning it once was enough so I deleted the second one. This, Nintendo has released an Ethernet Kit for the Wii console, which allows users to connect the console to a standard internet router without wireless support., is what I deleted. If this needs to be changed the whole paragraph needs to be reworded.  Thanks,--Darkest Hour $$$$ 19:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. Jecowa 03:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancy? 

message: IGN--User:NFAN3|NFAN3 21:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting development, a U.S. company suing the American division of a Japan-based company for something developed on the Japan side of things.  But better cite it to be sure.  --Stratadrake 01:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Kotaku, which may or may not be a reliable source, has a copy of the complaint . -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kotaku is quite notable, but IGN is definitely more notable and should be used as the source.  Dionyseus 01:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I linked the IGN article and Kotaku transcript, though both may not be necessary (and this was shortly before my PC froze... grr.)  --Stratadrake 02:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Very interesting. The product they claimed to have copied is nothing more than a laser pointer that also doubles as a clicker for slideshow presentations. Bradibus 21:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: We should add nintendo got sued

message: I just recently got a new remote and strap from Nintendo after replacing my old broken one, and I noticed the new strap is thicker than the ones that were available during launch. I've taken a comparison picture:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Adeon/wiistrap.jpg Bradibus 21:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Thicker Wii Strap in American remotes