Talk:Peter Griffin/Archive 2

message: Someone switched Peter's age to 46, when in reality he's around 42 or 43. Stewie stated that Peter was 42 on "Brian Does Hollywood". Based on the fact it only appears a year has passed during the course of the series I think it's safe to say he's still around 42 or 43.  Jam
:As with Homer Simpson and Ned Flanders, some editors like to take a stated age and add real time to it, as if each real year counts on the show too.  Obviously they don't, because the kids never age that much. Prometheus-X303- 04:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 42 and 43 are the two numbers that have been explicitly mentioned in the dialogue. Any number based on calculations from the flashbacks is to be taken with a grain of salt if it's Peter who's telling the story, since his memory is very unreliable. Cromulent Kwyjibo 21:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I know it's very confusing, that's why it's best to just have Early 40's as his age. TheBlazikenMaster 15:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's age 

message: In the controversial episode Meet the Quagmires, Peter said he was 18 in 1984. He cannot be 18 in 1984 since he was 23 back then. He was already 18 by 1980. You cannot be 18 two times. 1984 and the age of 18 (as well as the episode I mentioned) sucks. 206.255.186.75 14:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know it's very confusing, that's why it's best to just have Early 40's as his age. TheBlazikenMaster 15:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter age messup in "Meet the Quagmires" 

message: See this, there should be info that will be valid for decades to come. I find it unnecessary to add when a fictional character is born. As fictional characters age at unusual rate than real people, and (most often) not at all. Also imagine if ALL editors of Peter Griffin quitted, or nobody cares about changing his birth age anymore. Then this info would be invalid. This info would be useless after fifteen years. We should try to avoid things that can be out of date after few decades. TheBlazikenMaster 20:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We don't need info about when Peter was born that's why I reverted that. 

message: Is there anything that can be done? I'm sick of reverting this, since it's being changed too often. I tried hidden message, but no, a lot of people ignore these things, so tell me what can be done about this? TheBlazikenMaster 20:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's age keeps on changing from Early 40's into something else. 

message: I added a bit of information stating that Peter's real father is Peter McFinnigan as shown in the latest episode. Glotnot 02:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems Family Guy has introduced yet another plothole by stating Francis is not Peter's father. How could Peter be related to all of the ancestor Griffins (most of which look very similar to him) if he is not a Griffin? And I'm not talking about the throwaways; I'm referring to established ones like Nate Griffin. And by the way, it's Mickey McFinnigan, not Peter :p The S 05:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I read the article, and the sentence "Peter Griffin was born in Quahog, Rhode Island, 43 years ago, to Mickey McFinnegan and Thelma Griffin" makes it sound like they were married (or at least dating), not that they had a one-night stand in Ireland. I would change it, but I can't think of another way to put it.--BrianGriffin-FG 20:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I think we can agree that this is a plot hole and we should address  it as such until there is verification in this predicament. And by the way, BrianGriffin-FG, you owe me a million dollars cause I corrected your spelling in that comment. - Jumpmansbro 5:02 P.M., October 1 2007 (MDT)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.20.70.173 (talk) 23:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's Father 

message: I'm not entirely sure we should have the McFinnigan name in - after all, while he may be McFinnigan's son, his name is still Griffin, and I don't remember any move to make it double-barrelled. mattbuck 00:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's Name 

message: In the episode Petarded Peter writes with his left hand during the test despite being raised Catholic(to my knowledge, to Catholics lefthandedness is a sign of Satanism, so they bring up Children as right handed)
I do not kow Where this could belong or if it does belong.
Can somebody help me? I'm new here so I don't know how to do everything. Bluebrody7 22:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hand Choice?

message: When was he fired from the Pautucket Brewery? I remember that he lost his job (along with anyone who worked there) in Hell Comes to Quahog, but wouldn't everyone get there jobs back when it re-opened. Also, I remember in the commentary for Jungle Love, somebody says that this job has given them more material than any other of his jobs. Why would they get rid of it?--BrianGriffin-FG 19:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peter's Occupation

message: There are no POV tags, no cleanup tags. I think it MIGHT be ready. Check top of the page for more details. TheBlazikenMaster 20:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It now got a tag. I suppose it won't be featured after all. TheBlazikenMaster 21:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Man, that's some trifling hating! Another Slappywag Among Petorians 22:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I should've known that it's not ready yet to be featured. When the voting closes, we shouldn't nominated it again until many months have passed, and possibly protect it to keep it clean from vandals. TheBlazikenMaster 23:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I can see from just glancing over the page that it lacks images which is enough to get it rejected. This article needs images! JameiLei 16:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we can update it. What this article needs is what this character is based on. Images would be good, we also need a lot of references. TheBlazikenMaster 16:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True. We need some inline citations. If you think it can't be done, look at Bulbasaur - 847 words of references about a single Pokémon. JameiLei 23:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense, everything can be done. One of my wishes is this article to be featured, and with help from wikipedians from all around the world, I know the wish will come true. I know it's VERY hard, but I don't care. If it can never be featured, at least it should be good enough. Nothing is impossible if we all work together. Google search might help us get more references. I know we can do it. I also know it isn't gonna be easy. TheBlazikenMaster 00:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I want this article featured.

message: From edit summary for removing it from article: Evil twin huh? It isn't that I don't believe you, but we need some source. Something that apears in one episode doesn't count.
I personally believe it should be left in. MOST things in Family Guy appear only once. All peter's occupations apart from fisherman, toy inspector and brewery worker in fact. Heck, I'm not sure I consider Peter's McFinnegan ancestry anything but a throwaway. Keep it, it's citeable. mattbuck 18:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you at least refresh our memories and tell us the title of the episode in which Thaddeus appeared? Another Slappywag Among Petorians 23:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: True, but it has been discussed that things that appear only once aren't necessery true. It's been confirmed that Peter can't tell difference between a dream and his life history. Sometimes he talks about Griffins that don't exist, and never did, in other words makes them up. So, what's your proof? TheBlazikenMaster 18:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other things in Family Guy that have appeared more than once: that Lois is the daughter of the snooty Pewterschimdts, that Joe had his accident at Christmas, that Meg does birdcalls, that Chris has artistic talent, ... feel free to stop me anytime here. Another Slappywag Among Petorians 23:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that. Writers of this article should know the difference between what Peter is thinking, and what happens in his real life. I bet this guy does, but it would be nice if the guy that posted it will specificy which episode. After all, like said in the failed candidate, we need a lot of references. TheBlazikenMaster 23:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick Google search reveals the episode is "Mother Tucker." However, Thaddeus appears so briefly and just for the sake of one joke that I don't think it's worth mentioning in the Peter Griffin article (Thaddeus is and should be mentioned in the appropriate episode article). Compared to, say, Nate Griffin, Thaddeus Griffin is barely relevant in a general overview of Peter's life. Anton Mravcek 21:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evil Twin Thaddeus 

message: Just a query as to what one of the phrases in the first few sentences means? Maybe the language should be changed or a relevent wikilink could be inserted?
:His voice, which has a thick-as-chowder Rhode Island accent, is produced by the show's creator and lead writer, Seth MacFarlane.
Is it a common phrase or just in America? Cheers, Jack 22:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thick as chowder? 

message: We need new image. The older one was removed as it wasn't a fair use. Discuss. TheBlazikenMaster 16:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the best one we already have. I hope someone will upload fair-use image of Peter Griffin as he is in the cartoons. TheBlazikenMaster 16:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Me too. As it stands now, the picture of Peter when things "got too real" is duplicated. Another Slappywag Among Petorians 19:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could we not use the chicken one? At least that shows peter as he is in the cartoon. mattbuck 19:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, I don't know. Anyway, we need a picture of him alone. If you feel like it's necessery to have him fighting the chicken, I wouldn't care, I really don't know wether or not you should. TheBlazikenMaster 09:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem solved, thanks to Ayokimmie. TheBlazikenMaster 22:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's a nice picture, and it shows him engaged in one of his favorite activities. Well done. ShutterBugTrekker 17:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image. 

message: C'mon, there must be SOME WikiProject Peter can be part of, but the problem is I can't figure out what. WikiProject Fox doesn't seem to exist..... TheBlazikenMaster 09:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it to a WikiProject. TheBlazikenMaster 19:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject 

message: Why is Meg listed as a step-daughter? I don't seem to recall this being in any show, especially as Lois doesn't have any children in any of the flashbacks in any episode. Meg's page says that Peter is her father. Its really not a big deal, but looking through the article it just nagged at the back of my mind. Chibimech 12:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Screwed the Pooch#Notes, or watch that episode again. Whether this was just a one-off joke that the writers will never reference again or an actual canon fact, I couldn't tell you. Cromulent Kwyjibo 22:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'd love to see that episode. But if it's a thought/flashback then it wouldn't be real. But if it's actually in the episode outside Peter's and other characters' mind, then it could be real. I don't have volume 2 on DVD. Well, I guess we just have to wait and see. TheBlazikenMaster 22:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meg's relationship????? 

message: the article states that Peter's interest in Babs is evidence of incest fantasy. This is ridiculous as Babs is not blood related to him. Also, it is also mentioned that he had (or faked) intercourse with Lois's father, yet this is not considered incest. I propose we change that whole section, as his Babs fantasy is not incest, nor does it belong with discussion about bisexuality or homosexuality (Theglobeismyeye 14:06, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It's not incest if they aren't related by blood to you, which neither Lois' Mother or Father are. If Lois died or divorced Peter, he could freely marry Babs with complete legal consent, it shouldn't be any different when they are married. It isn't incest when Lois and Peter have sex, so why should it be when the family member is another degree seperate? There is a reference to incest in Airport '07 when Peter becomes a redneck however, making advances towards meg, but this may not be an indication that he is actually interested in that, it may just be that he is being a stereotypical redneck. Chibimech 09:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

text: However, there is a possibility that both Lois and Peter are related by ancestry when you think about the episode, Untitled Griffin Family History. - Jumpmansbro 5:44, October 1 2007  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.20.70.173 (talk) 23:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but that episode was mainly stuff coming from Peter's mouth. How can we tell if he didn't make all that up? TheBlazikenMaster 16:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Incest!?." 

message: There are no foodnotes at all. That's what makes this article unable to become featured. Peter is a famous character. Let's make this article good article before making it features. I can't make any footnotes, but someone should do it. I'm bringing it to attention here because most articles have them. Yeah, who is with me? TheBlazikenMaster 22:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need footnotes. 

message: I added a sentence about that Peter is based on Larry, but that's not enough. We need a whole section about what Peter is based on. Common, Peter deserves one. And also add some footnotes. TheBlazikenMaster 15:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larry. 

message: I think section like that is needed, as he did have some appearances outside Family Guy.
Look into my sandbox for an example.
So what do you guys think? Of course it isn't worded correctly, I haven't seen any of the episdoes listed.
But this is the section I'm talking about. I will have it on the article tomorrow, if there won't be any opposers. TheBlazikenMaster 17:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since there aren't any objections, I will add it. It's just a little section, so I don't think it's necessery to have a poll on this. I just made this discussion so people can discuss the section. TheBlazikenMaster 21:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's appearance outside family guy section. 

message: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvhNCAGElfY - at 2:50 it's implied he was born in July. 212.108.17.165 12:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, yeah, but there's a whole range of 20 days in July that could be. Or 10 days, I forget. Still doesn't narrow it down enough. Another Slappywag Among Petorians 21:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Birth 

message: There should be a reference to Peter's superhuman charisma. This is manifested both as sex appeal and his ability to get people to do things.  Both of these traits have been exibited through the entire series. Examples of the sex appeal are how easily he attracted Jennifer Love Hewitt, Molly Ringwold and Lois' mother. He regularly misdirects people to react a certain way even when there is evidence to the contray such as convincing the other male characters that Dr. Hartman violated them during thier prostate exams, convinced a mob that his teenage daughter was injured in Vietnam when she wasn't even born at the time. He even leads an entire stadium of people in a musical number in the middle of a football game. This happens often enough that it is more a charater trait of Peter than just a plot device. Vismaior 12:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's Charisma

message: HEY! ARE YOU A FAN OF Family Guy! DO YOU WANNA GET ALL THERE DVDs! DO YOU WANNA SLEEP WITH MEG! IF YOUR ANSWERES ARE YES YES YES, than why, she's ugly. IF YOUR ANSWERES ARE YES YES NO, THAN JOIN THE FAMILY GUY HEPERS! JOIN NOW!
JOIN NOW! JOIN NOW!--BrianGriffin-FG 18:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Helpers

message: I can't remove it from the article, I tried, but it's still at the bottom of the page, I even used Microsoft Word to search but found nothing. Can someone help me? TheBlazikenMaster 00:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I found out, the template was vandalized, I fixed that. TheBlazikenMaster 00:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  connie dechico? What the hell? 

message: OK, I have just done a general cruft removal. This article should be built up to meet WP:FICT and WP:WAF. This requires real world information on creation, development, and real world impact, which I'm sure is quite possible. The in-universe information should be redifined and rewritten to provide an accurate portrayal of the character. One episode things shouldn't be mentioned, and there should be no original research. If you have a claim, it should be backed with reliable sources. Example articles can be found under "media" on the featured article list. TTN 16:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it ready for featured status yet? TheBlazikenMaster 16:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very far away from being an FA, let alone a GA. The current information needs to be rewritten and beefed up based upon reliable sources instead of purely from the episodes. There also needs to be developed development and reception sections, again, based off of reliable sources. The popular culture section should reflect on how the character is used in popular culture rather than giving every minor detail. If enough information is available, a mass media section can be split off of it. TTN 16:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  you are going to have to compromise. some stuff needs to be left in there. let's try and work together. Ono 21:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  as you can see, i tried to merge our info together, in the info box, i referenced his fav band, and i took out the family at the bottom, b/c of the relative at the top. his fav car is obviously a station, b/c that is what he drives. i will fix the intro paragraph soon. Ono 21:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: First off, why is the date linking necessary? (as this template assumes)
Second, the episode link doesn't work for some reason.
I was thinking if someone watching this page is an expert on citing templates, I hope so because I need help. Redlinks are never good for an article, so I need some help. TheBlazikenMaster 00:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have a problem with the episode citing. 

message: "Peter worked at a country club/resort in Newport, RI, as a towel boy, where he met Lois Pewterschmidt, whom he nailed in the changerooms."
Nailed. I mean, for God's sake. Nailed??? Sorry to whoever it may offend (if there actually is anyone that stupid), but I'm changing this to "had sex with". Geez, that line makes it sound like Peter himself wrote this article...172.209.112.222 19:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Nailed" is probably more in the spirit of the show. I changed this to hooked up with, but that's a little too causual and perhaps unclear. What I want to say is started a sexual relationship in an immediately physical way. Is there a better term for this? / edg ☺ ★ 21:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk about crude... 

message: The naming and lineage in :Image:Family-Guy-Griffin-Family-Tree.jpg are currently disputed in Talk:Family Guy. I've yanked that image from Family Guy, but not from Peter Griffin since it kind of demonstrates the amount of ancestors that have been depicted in the show. However, it seems to make assumptions about lineage and consistency that make it original research.
I'm waiting to hear from the uploader in Talk:Family Guy. If concerns are addressed, I'll restore the image to Family Guy. Otherwise I'll deleted it from here. / edg ☺ ★ 03:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This tree seems a lot more suitable for fansites than here. Just get rid of it, we don't even know if these are the real relatives of Peter. I assume a lot of those are from times when Peter makes up some random ancestor. TheBlazikenMaster 13:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well put. Deleted 24 September 2007. / edg ☺ ★ 18:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Griffin Family Tree disputed 

message: Are appearances on Drawn Together at all notable? There's nothing unique or unusual about a cartoon character from another show appearing on Drawn Together. This was deleted today (for insufficient sourcing), and I'm proposing that such appearances are not by themselves worth adding to this article. / edg ☺ ★ 17:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they shouldn't be here if which episode isn't specified. Are you saying that my reason of reverting was incorrect? But I agree, I'd love to see the scene itself to know if it's notable. TheBlazikenMaster 17:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm saying it's a good reversion, but maybe we should be more strict about letting it in at all, unless there's additional real-world notability (such as a lawsuit or something). All of Drawn Together is thinly-veiled parodies of other cartoon characters, so notability-wise such an appearance is up there with "water is wet". / edg ☺ ★ 18:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Drawn Together'' appearances 

message: Why did this article become so short? It was much better before!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.177.3.180 (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too short 

message: Various stories, flashbacks and cutaway gags reveal Peter-like ancestors and relatives including Peter Hitler, brother of Adolf; Moses Griffin, who led the Jews out of Egypt; the caveman that invented the wheel; Willy "Black Eye" Griffin, a silent movie star whose sole gag was getting hit in the eye; Osias Griffin, the wealthy owner one of the first dozen telephones; and a philosopher named Thomas Griffin, who used existential pondering as an excuse to his wife for remaining unemployed. Many of these historical characters have wives or girlfriends bearing an obvious resemblance to Lois, family resembling the Griffins, and associates resembling Peter's neighbors.
I would go right ahead and remove it, but I have feeling that it isn't the best solution. I will be trying to reword it, help would be nice. TheBlazikenMaster 00:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope I am not being intrusive, but perhaps this will work?
In some episodes, stories, flashbacks and cutaway gags, almost always non-canon,  reveal ancestors and relatives of the Griffins based on various historical figures, some of which include Peter Hitler, who is brother to Adolf Hitler, Moses Griffin, who led the Jews out of Egypt , Willy "Black Eye" Griffin, a silent movie star whose sole gag was getting hit in the eye, and a philosopher named Thomas Griffin, who used existential pondering as an excuse to his wife for remaining unemployed. Many of these historical characters have relationships (i.e. wives, children, friends) bearing an obvious resemblance to other characters in the show
I cut out a few of the historical figures because they seemed less well know than Hitler or Moses. --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 00:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My point is most of those don't reveal anything at all. They are just there for the sake of it. Believe it or not, Peter just thinks of something random with most of those ancestors. The only true reveal about Peter's family is his true father. TheBlazikenMaster 01:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, how did you want it reworded? --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 01:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost always non-canon is fine, go with that. TheBlazikenMaster 01:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, i see. I thought when you wrote that you were mad about the fictional attitude of it, like its fictional, so it should stay fictional in writing. Always non-canon could work. And, i assume you mean Mickey, Thelma, and Frances, who raised him, albeit not lovingly. --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 01:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone help me reword this? 

message: His name is peter griffin. He was raised by Frances and Thelma GRIFFIN. He didn't meet mickey until way later. Im chaning the name to Peter GRIFFIN. Not Griffin/McFinnigan, as his legal name has no McFinnigan in it. --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 01:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So let me get this straight, you only have last name out of the father that raised you instead of your biological one? Don't worry, I won't ask further, I'm just curious. If I get useful answer I will add a hidden comment explaining why McFinnigan can't be added.TheBlazikenMaster 01:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, show me one official and/or fansite that uses the name Griffin/McFinnigan, and i will show you why it might belong, aside from that...Look, families are complicated, and names get hyphens and changed or whatever, the point is, talking out of universe (which is what wikipedia primarliy is), Peter is known as Peter Griffin. Heck, even in universe, i have not once heard him called Griffin-McFinnigan. My guess is, on his birth certificate (were he real), it would say Griffin NOT McFinnigan, as Thelma and Frances were the only ones to know about it until the episode. That, is your reason. Oh, and it also annoyed me at the format with which it was written. I have never seen a person called Jim Jones/Smith with a slash. --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 04:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bottom line: the character's name is "Peter Griffin". If an complex genealogy were part of this article and the relationship needed to be highlighted, then a construction like Griffin/McFinnigan might make sense in that part. But making that distinction is probably not necessary here, and anyway the character's name would still be "Peter Griffin". / edg ☺ ★ 12:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No I don't have to show you any source, as I only wanted to know one thing. Thanks for that, I will now make a hidden note. TheBlazikenMaster 13:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. TheBlazikenMaster 13:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The path is complete, and all has been forth --Gen. S.T. Shrink *Get to the bunker* 20:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I suggest this article be locked, or cleaned up due to the protruded "4 duh luz" section. It has absolutely nothing to do with Peter Griffin, nor the series itself. I'm 24, and I don't have the time, nor the patience to clean it up, so please, someone fix it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.155.86 (talk) 02:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing a revert can't handle. This article is too closely watched for vandalism to be a problem — usually it's corrected in minutes. / edg ☺ ★ 02:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme Vandalism 

message: I don't own this episode myself, and am not American citizen either, but I really think instead of edit warring people should discuss whether or not he was born in Mexico. Let's just get to it then. 
Discussion is necessary, since this kind of info keeps on getting removed and readded. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexican or not? 

message: As shown in S05E02, "Mother Tucker", Peter has an evil brother. This might be worth adding to the list of his relatives, unfourntately I don't know the name of the brother so someone who knows it will have to add it. 83.250.0.80 (talk) 19:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thaddeus Griffin, already added to the infobox. I'm neutral about having him in the infobox. He seems more like a Giant Chicken than a "real" character. I don't see Thaddeus visiting the Griffins as part of a story or doing something a "real" character might do. Has Thaddeus appeared in more than one episode? / edg ☺ ☭ 20:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Cf: I don't think Thaddeus is notable enough for an article, especially since he does so little. I would recommend putting him on List of characters from Family Guy instead. Otherwise it will just be a historical account of every thing Thaddeus ever did, which is more a project for Family Guy Wiki than an encyclopedia. / edg ☺ ☭ 10:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would actually say he doesn't belong on the character list either. I do alot of my editing maintaining that particular article, and I try to keep one-shot characters off, mainly because a new character emerges in just about every Family Guy episode. Before about a year ago, all of them were being added and the article got to be massive. Thaddeus has only appeared in Mother Tucker and I can't say I have seen him in another episode, although if someone knows of one, please correct me. Thaddeus is much like Stan Thompson, minus the fact that he has actually appeared on an episode. He will probably never be seen again and it mostly just a one-time joke. For now, I have been reverting IP addings of Thaddeus, since those are mainly the only editors who add him, but if someone has a good reason together, I would be more then happy to hear it. Saget53 (talk) 17:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Griffin's brother 

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to remove it, I restored the old one. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Family-guy-peter-griffin8.jpg

message: There is currently a binary edit war on how this character's ancestry should be linked from the Infobox, between Irish and Irish American. The Irish American article describes well the things Peter's Irish-ness may imply. Perhaps as an infobox space-saver, we should make it Irish. Can we agree on this and stop the revert war? / edg ☺ ☭ 10:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Irish]] vs. [[Irish American]]

message: I don't really favor either of these since an american born in another country who promptly returns to the United States really doesn't have a "heritage" from that country. For Peter this "heritage" was a single episode situation best elaborated on the episode page Padre de Familia (Family Guy episode). Can we agree to leave this out? / edg ☺ ☭ 10:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mexican]] vs. [[Mexican American]]