Talk:List of assault rifles

message: Is there a reason why there are some AR-15 variants on the list (apart from manufacturing marketing purposes)?
If we were to put every AR-15 variant and every AK variant rifle here that is renamed by it's manufacturer since it has one part that makes it incompatible since it has different handguards mount, there would be literally hundreds of those here. If it has AR-15 lower (receiver), it's AR-15 variant rifle (and yes, I'm aware that AR-15 isn't technically assoult rifle as it's typically signifying civilian version, but I hope everybody gets the point).
Same should go for AKs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.103.134.99 (talk) 14:33, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge same guns into same table element? 

message: I took the first part of this list and turned it into a table with a bit more info and a lot more visual appeal.  Do you think it's worth doing the whole page in this style?   Since response was positive I am moving ahead with the redesign.  It should be ready to move to the article page within 24 hours. OlenWhitaker  • talk to me or don't • ♣ ♥ ♠ ♦ 23:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely so, and I think it may be possible to include some more information in addition to what you're showing here. Nice work! Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm fairly unfamiliar with this subject area, but the table looks good to me. You can make the table sortable by turning class="wikitable" into class="wikitable sortable" . I might leave off the "Major users" column if it proves to be contentious. --Pixelface (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *That is certainly a worthwhile approach. Making the table sortable and the data wikilinked would be even better. I'll withdraw my AfD request if we can replace the current content with that. Sandstein (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm on it!  Give me 24 hours and I'll have it done. OlenWhitaker  • talk to me or don't • ♣ ♥ ♠ ♦ 23:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your effort! I propose that we format the comments field as a proper column of its own, so that the table as a whole can be made sortable. This would allow the user to find all US assault rifles, list the most modern ones, etc. Sandstein (talk) 06:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed new format 

message: I just took the new page design live on the article page.  It is basically just an amplification of the previous list except that I removed the red links or any link that redirected to another rifle already listed elsewhere.  I also ran across a couple of assault rifles not on the list and added them.  The page is still not finished and some of the entries still lack some of the information, but I will continue to add content to the page in the coming days including a proper introduction and probably some more rifles as well.  It has been suggested that the general information now located below the rifle's entry be moved to the side so the page can be made sortable.  I like the idea, but on my old 1024x768 display it makes the table awfully cramped.  I realize the great majority of systems display at much higher resolutions and if someone else wants to do it, I guess I won't complain, but I couldn't bring myself to create a page that looked like butt on my own (really old) screen.
Phew!  That was a lot more work than I thought it would be!
Big thanks to everyone who supported me on this!
--OlenWhitaker  • talk to me or don't • ♣ ♥ ♠ ♦ 16:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New design 

message: Um... should't the SCAR be called the MK. 16 or MK. 17 depending on which varient? I say this because, to my understanding, SCAR was the name of the competition not the rifle itself.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 20:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The competition was called SCAR, but so is the rifle as shown on the manufacturer's website. OlenWhitaker  • talk to me or don't • ♣ ♥ ♠ ♦ 23:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: SCAR

message: The sentence "Based on the oft-copied AK-47, the Sa vz. 58 has seen service with several nations' armies including the present day Czech Republic, and Slovakia." is not correct. More precisely it is no truth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.102.184.73 (talk) 03:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  vz 58 

message: I can't find anything about mapgul masada/bushmaster acr, should include it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.74.171.117 (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  bushmaster acr 

message: FG 42 was an eraly assault rifle ?--151.67.197.29 (talk) 14:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[FG 42]] 

message: Several weapons on the list are technically carbines not rifles.  The M4 being one of the more obvious examples.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.1.217.2 (talk) 13:56, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carbines listed as assault rifles 

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message: The picture of AMD-65 is wrong. Please change it. Scorch2325 (talk) 13:15, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture of AMD-65 is wrong.

message: This page has been hit with changing Taiwan listings to say China.  Could someone fix it and keep an eye on it.  I would fix it myself, but I'd like someone to keep an eye on it and I don't frequent this page. Also, would someone contact the vandelism bot manager to see if they can add a rule for this.  It seems certain individuals in China seem quite intent on adding this vandalism to every page they see.--Robert Wm "Ruedii" (talk) 03:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism changing Taiwan to China. 

message: Putting the AR-15 on this list is not only factually incorrect, it generates unnecessary confusion and comments.  M16 is an assault rifle.  AR15 is not. Wowthisguyiscorrect (talk) 11:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  AR15s are clearly NOT assault rifles. 

message: There are too many uncited pages and the definition is contradicted by the next statement. FenderstratGatorlord (talk) 23:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove the definition 

message: The name of the list should be changed to " List of Armalite Rifles ", since " Armalite Rifle " is the proper term, not " Assault Rifle " 2600:8801:7206:7000:F4F7:56AC:6C8D:9209 (talk) 02:40, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armalite Rifles 

message: What if a gun meets all criteria to be an assault rifle (STV rifle or Daewoo K1) but is called a submachine gun by a source,
or vice versa a source calling the Heckler & Koch HK417 an assault rifle even though it meets the criteria for a battle rifle FSbiran (talk) 01:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source – Criteria dissonance 

message: I worked out a list of missing model with indicators:
*Tokarev autromatic carbine  in .351 WSL https://web.archive.org/web/20240309221511/https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/81/87212-47.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20211028024932/https://mpopenker.livejournal.com/2356153.html?utm_source=3userposthttps://web.archive.org/web/20240309233931/https://laststandonzombieisland.com/tag/351-wsl/
*Korovin Avtomat 1933https://docs.yandex.ru/docs/view?url=ya-disk-public%3A%2F%2FfJF3xL6LGZBws4OXuktZ1q4RPMD1oZhXr32cfHlUJ%2BI%3D&name=oru0413.pdfhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170621124050/http://raigap.livejournal.com/261553.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20240310001249/https://mpopenker.livejournal.com/2356153.html
* Scotti Naval rifle/Scotti M1930https://web.archive.org/web/20240310004837/https://waralbum.ru/community/armor/207/paged/6/https://web.archive.org/web/20240310010128/https://raigap.livejournal.com/956729.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20240310012835/https://alternathistory.ru/aviatsionnye-pulemety-skotti/?acpage=10
*Korovin AK-44
*Bulkin AB-44
*Shpagin ASh-44
*Korovin AK-45
*Alexandrovich and Ivanov Avtomathttps://web.archive.org/web/20240310013301/https://werewolf0001.livejournal.com/14831.html
*Alexandrovich and Kashtanov Avtomathttps://web.archive.org/web/20230921200200/https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/36/2148389-4.html
*Kuzmishchev Avtomat
* Victor Sarasqueta 1953 STABLE/ARMUhttps://web.archive.org/web/20240201134235/http://firearms.96.lt/pages/smg
*9x40mm erkki lilja model 1943 https://web.archive.org/web/20240318172538/https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/9x40-lilja/53531/2
*9x35mm, 7.62x35mm Lahti AL-43
*Brixia M1923, Brixia M1930 https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/36/2513762.html
Unclear cases:
*Winchester Model 1907 automatic version ?,https://web.archive.org/web/20231203041832/https://www.forgottenweapons.com/bsa-1926-1929-thompson-smgs/ in one comment they refer to an auction website where a full auto conversion of the Model 1907 was sold.
*Volkssturmgewehr automatic version ?https://web.archive.org/web/20231218052742/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUeYVcredOc
*Type 96 light machine gun intermediate or fully powered cartridge?
*Fedorov Avtomat intermediate or fully powered cartridge?
Other lists:
* Before The Sturmgewehr: Assault Rifle Developments Prior to 1942 https://web.archive.org/web/20231208003601/https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/02/sturmgewehr-assault-rifle-developments-prior-1942/
* M1 Carbine development program https://web.archive.org/web/20240302154218/http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/development.html
* Experimental Russian Assault Rifles Of WW2 https://web.archive.org/web/20190506063427/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqE4KTKwEUU
FSbiran (talk) 23:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing models