Talk:Gupta Empire

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Very recently a few scholars have linked Guptas with rulers mentioned in Bhagwatam; however, these things are largely disputed and the idea seems politically motivated to promote the sale of books written and promoted by some entities.http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/33_two_more.htm
Seemed to promote a POV.
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Somebody, after 23rd of October has added the name of Ashoka after Skandagupta in the dynastic list.
I know because I copied the name of the rulers on 23rd and then today someone said ashoka's name is in the list.
There is a conspiracy to put the name of Ashoka in Gupta dynasty.
Would the editors please note and take action ?
--- somsuj from Indian History Community of Orkut.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.180.16 (talk) 08:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: This part of the page is in need of much work. The language here is quite confusing, and I can only hope an expert can come in to expand upon this section further.
The 'Legacy' section mentions  Aryabhata 'proposing' that the earth is round. The round earth theory is by the time of the Guptas about 1000 years old, so i'm not sure it's really relevant (or appropriate to call it part of the gupta legacy). see page on the theory of a spherical earth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B029:E2E6:ED28:F32C:F748:8E2 (talk) 00:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: The Arya Manjushri Mul Kalpa, is a history of India covering the period 700 BCE to 770 AD. The history was a Buddhist Mahayana work, by a Tibetan scholar, and was composed sometime in the 8th century CE. 
K P Jayaswal brought this material out from above book in his eminently scholarly book :An Imperial history of India C 700 BC – C 770 AD. K P Jayaswal has spotted and brought out the fact that the second Guptas, (Chandra Gupta II, Samudra Gupta etc circa 200 BCE to 600 BCE) were Jats, who came originally form the Mathura area. They were of the “ Dharan” goth/Gotra, as shown by the inscription of the Prabhadevi Plate, where she gives her father’s (and her) goth as Dharan. The Dharan Jats still can be found in the U.P Mathura region and they proudly point to their ancient glory, of how their forefathers ruled Hindustan. 
According to him Gupta is said to have been a Mathura-Jata (Sanskrit- Jata-vamsa). Jata-vamsa, that is, Jata Dynasty stands for Jarta, that is, Jat. That the Guptas were Jat; we already have good reasons to hold (JBORS, XIX. p. 1U). His Vaisali mother is the Lichchhavi lady. 
The historian Bhim Singh Dahiya has proved by applying “Grimm's law of Variation” that in Indo-European languages the alphabet “J” changes to “G”. Due to this law the Chinese call Jats as “Getae” and Germans call them “Got”, “Gaut” or “Goth”. The Proto-Germanic name Gaut changes to Gupt as under: 
Gapt is considered to be a corruption of Gaut (Gaut→Gavt→Gaft→Gapt, cf. eftir and eptir, "after" in Old Norse). Gapt changed to Gupt in India. 
When Chandragupta II, Vikramaditya married his daughter with a Vakataka prince he called tribe as "Dharan" which is a gotra of Jats even today. Skandagupta has written in an inscription of Junagarh that Gupta is a title, which means soldier or a chief. Hence Bhim Singh Dahiya concludes that Guptas were Jats. 
The above facts may help to find the origin of Guptas and need further research.--burdak 17:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of [[Guptas]]

message: Can someone please expand on this? I don't understand. Tuncrypt 02:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Classical anarchy"

message: Gupta empire was confined to central and north-eastern part of modern India. Gupatas never ruled Pujab, Sind and parts of Rajisthan, as it is shown in the map.
Oh gosh is this another one of those 'islamic' histories of Pakistan that you are refering to?...All evidence points to the fact that Guptas did rule punjab and sindh and southern mountains of kashmir i.e Akhnur, mirpur. The areas upto the Indus river in the West, entire Sindh coast and Jhelum river in the north have been known to include the Gupta territory and its Vassals. March, 25, 2006
Reality is always bitter. There is no such a thing as Islamic Histories Of Pakistan. But the Hindutva History of Hindutvas is unfortunately a reality and these Hindutvas have ruined the whole Wikipedia.
This is not a biased view...it is supported by many history reference books written from primary evidence (archeological or from surviving documents). Look at the book The Gupta Empire by Radhakumud Mookerji published by Hind Kitabs Ltd, Bombay, 1959. Shyam (talk) 04:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guptas never ruled Punjab and Sind 

message: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Negandhi anand (talk • contribs) 17:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  True map of the Gupta empire 

message: The reference to the Decimal System is inaccurate - although zero was invented around 400 CE, The decimal system itself was invented at least 600 years earlier, long before the Guptas.  (See the Wikipedia article on the Hindu-Arabic numeral system.) Sasha 13:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Decimal System

message: The first sentence claims that the Gupta Empire was the largest in the world. This claim is made also for the Mongolians, for the Romans, the English and so on and so forth. Everyone wants their empire to be the biggest. Size is I think a relatively minor gague of importance. I suggest that whoever works on this page remove this sentence so that this entry sound more professional.Brosi 22:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the largest empire?? 

message: Somebody, probably well-intentioned, broke the link to two of the images in the article by introducing an additional space in the image names. Could somebody restore the original image names in the article? (:Image:Two Gold coins of Chandragupta II.jpg and :Image:Silver Coin of Chandragupta II.jpg, without spaces). Cheers PHG (talk) 05:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: Following para has been removed from the introduction. It can be discussed in the page origin of Guptas.
"The most accepted theory about the origins of the Guptas is that the Guptas originated from Bengal. The mention of "Varendra Mrigashihavan Stupa" on a mound in Nepal is a strong evidence that the Guptas originated from Bengal. Maharaja Sri-Gupta probably ruled a portion of Northern/Southern Bengal. Later Chandragupta I established his dominion over Magadha through marital policy with the Licchavis."
The above paragraph violates WP:APT. No reference has been cited which says that the theory is the most accepted. So it an WP:OR. Manoj nav (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: There's a big unreferenced text dump at History of the Gupta dynasty which should either be referenced, cleaned up and wikified or incorporated into this article. Pichpich (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 06:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, absolutely.  A lot of India articles are really just overwhelming text dumps.  I try to clean them up when I can, but I have just sporadic knowledge of Indian history and limited access to texts on the topic.  It should be a separate article, ideally, as the topic is huge.  However, do what you can, and you have my support.  Ill see what I can do, also.  --KP Botany (talk) 07:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the Gupta dynasty 

message: The first section says the empire covered modern day Pakistan, this is not true and will be removed :
 http://www.pakhistory.com/facts/the-kushans-part-10.php
or refer to A Short History of Pakistan and History of Pakistan
Also if you look at the map of the Gupta empire, also found in the main article or from a neutral reference, here  and compare it to the map of asia from wiki's Asia page, here  you will notice that Pakistan is not part of the Geographic spread of the Empire. Khokhar (talk) 07:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gupta empire coverage 

message: there is a small reference to the military use of hippos in the military organization section of this article. there is no reference of this use of hippos in their article.
please check acuracy.
military organization section has no quotes.
--Ben.M.DT (talk) 02:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: Gupta Rajavamsa cannot be translated by "Gupta Empire". Vamsa means family, rajavamsa therefore something like "dynasty". Please use a Sanskrit dictionary now and then.
GB  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.154.64 (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Empire" 

message: This is why no one should ever cite wikipedia. Some anonymous vandal comes along and it and nearly three years later no one has noticed? Someone even went as far as to helpfully remove the link to Oprah Winfrey so that Oprah would point to the ancient king, not the talk show host. The worst part of this is that this ridiculous line about the mighty King Oprah has been copy-pasted in a number of places, including educational documents and a wikimedia book. How is it that a community comprised mostly of pedants and know-it-alls allowed this to pass unnoticed for so long? You can even find articles in wikipedia itself that directly refute the existence of king Oprah, invader of the Gupta empire.
The edit in question was:
23:50, 8 March 2009‎ 76.105.237.36 (talk)‎ (22,891 bytes) (→Huna invasions and the end of empire)
My absolute favorite part of this episode is that this vandal made three edits. The first two added obvious typos, which were caught within minutes. Afterwards he changed the name of an important Huna king to Oprah. And here we are three years later.
98.237.178.164 (talk) 09:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  King Oprah? Seriously? 

message: Please add a definition for Gupta era Aravind V R (talk) 10:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: I notice that the temple shown in the picture in the article is from Indonesia, and was built in the 9th century.  The temple shown is neither from the time or place of the Gupta empire.  A picture of an actual Gupta temple should be used.  Although rare, there are some Gupta temples still around.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.111.162.2 (talk) 00:35, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we use a picture of an actual Gupta temple, not a temple from a different time and place?.  

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message: This revision removed the references and statement about some scholars disputing that the Gupta Empire was "the Golden Age", claiming it was an "exaggerated claim. Only DN Jha refuted the claim of Golden Age, while most modern historians still maintain the claim." I reverted the change, but would like that user to know why and allow them an opportunity to open a dialogue about this.
* I reverted the change because the wording of the article already implied that this is an idea only contested by some scholars. If the claim is to be made that this was "The Golden Age" of India, it is important to show all dissenting ideas and the scholars that wrote them in order to help provide a neutral point of view. DeniedClub❯❯❯ talk? 16:19, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: I just read that " Dr.Ambedkar along with Buddhist scholar Kausambi places Bhagavad Gita in the period of the Gupta emperor Baladitya (early sixth century CE)." See https://swarajyamag.com/longform/dr-ambedkar-dr-elst-and-bhagavad-gita 
Here also: The Bhagavad Gita: A Biography - Page 6
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1400851971
Richard H. Davis - 2014 - ‎Preview
Most Sanskrit scholars agree that the Bhagavad Gita originated in northern India, sometime in the classical period between the reign of the Mauryan king Ashoka (r. 269–232 BCE) and Gupta dynasty (320–547 CE), as part of a much larger ...
And here:
The Bhagavadgita: Doctrines and Contexts - Page 243
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1139469053
Angelika Malinar - 2007 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Some scholars, for instance, interpret the BhG as a 'synthesis' of different ideas and groups which mirrors a peaceful, prosperous society in which diversity has been harmonised, as was allegedly achieved under the Gupta dynasty (350–500 ...
Do other sources support this claim as well?
2604:2000:1103:A206:B173:415F:C641:6DDF (talk) 14:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composition of Bhagavad Gita in Gupta Era? 

message: Dallas museum of art mentions the following map of gupta empire, i think its the greatest extent of gupta empire which should be mentioned in this article, its a great injustice that empires like empires of alexander, and mughal are shown at their greatest extend in their articles even though they were only to retain that for a very few years while gupta empire article has multiple maps none of them showing their greatest extent. 
chandragupta II, 414 AD 
map115.135.118.112 (talk) 07:49, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gupta empire, greatest extent period chandragupta 2, 414 AD map 

message: The gupta dynasty was founded  from the marriage of Princess kumaradevi and Chandragupta
I am planning to add this in the article
https://books.google.com/books?id=yjStCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT75&dq=Gupta+origins&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5-az2mZfgAhWnIDQIHeyQDBYQ6AEIMzAC#v=onepage&q=Gupta%20origins&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sangitha rani111 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding of the Gupta Dynasty 

message: 72845ggg (talk) 10:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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