Talk:Japanese nationalism

message: If Japanese Imperialism redirects here, why doe the word "Taiwan" not appear one single time in the entire article. It is imperitave that the article be split up into articles that can more accurately discribe these subjects, most of which are united only by the word Japan.
The page is long now, and needs concision work. I'm moving this out for the moment.
Charles Matthews 16:25, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwan

message: I removed this sentence from the "ideology of Japanese nationalism 1905-1945 => education" section of the article:
"In Japan exist ones 1,000,000 of pupils in primary level, in technical Schools levels stay ones 2,000,000 pupils, in advanced technical schools stay others 530,000 pupils. In six principal universities (between stay Tokio University and Tokyo Imperial University) poses ones 73,000 too."
I assume that the author is talking about the number of students in various schools during the Japanese nationalistic period.  However, I'm not sure due to the use of present tense verbs.  If anyone can make sense of this, feel free to put it back (hopefully in a form that I can understand).  - Connelly 02:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreadable sentence

message: It says very few about the topic: "nationalism".
===Economy===
the Japanese economy previous times at Mukden incident are more
similar at present days.but from these sucess to 1945,occured
one radical change,the Japanese Official Government Stablishment
decided to Centralized all economy aspects,in beneficts of
Zaibatsu Industrialist Clans,but why are more for common citizens
from these moments in japan are sanctioned  the"General national 
Movilization Act" for why all economic resources used to National
war efforts in China mainland and more later in Pacific area.
the Zaibatsus stay complaced for why receiving more weapons
contracs and managed part of these same resources joining at
Armed forces,but in other hand the common citizens suffering
the effects of scarcies in basic aliments basket,gasoline
coal,wood,milk fish,etc and others common basic things.
in contrary Japanese Army and Navy receiving in War fronts
much of these scarcies things in proper japan how part
of your logistics,but at final inclusive theirs encountered
much scarcies of this.these centralized economy are managed
in first moments for Naoki Hoshino,how director of Economy consell
,but more later continuing these politic Teijiro Toyoda,relationed  with Mitsui Clan.thing why satisfiying at Masatsune Ogura Director of  Sumitomo Industries.ogura promised at other Industrialist clans making much beneficts for poses one of theirs in government.
 
ore later are replaced for Leutenant General Seizo Sakonji,why
expresed why continuing the labor of predecesor in Economy and Commerce Ministerium.japanese persons making much imagination for making solutions respect at these grave situation.
the militarist no only having making weapons concessions and petitions,in more quantities,without,reafirm commercial desire of 7% in beneficts of iron and steel production.the official announced of government subsidies for foment the production.these official announced are formuled for the president of Steel anf Iron Administration Society,why stay relationed with Mitsui,Mitsubishi,Sumitomo and other capitalists clans.for
poses security of god intentions of Militarists, in your new empress
for making new weapons for foreing aggresion.
for example militarist poses only elogious words for well labour making  for Mitsui,Mitsubishi Sumitomo,Yasuda and other capitalist clans.the DOMEI press agency during pacific wartimes expressed why durig sucesses  in Dutch indies,USA and Great Britain colonies,the Leutenant General  Hyotaro Yamada havingposes well words for Capitalist clans for  making exelents weapons"superiors at general level in quality how quantity".
he national sindicates having rapid vanished,for express order of Army
with support of Nationalist bands.Komachiki Matsuoka,leader of "Japanese workers federation" are ordered to vanish your sindicate or fussioned with Official Sindicate "Industry Nation Service Society"(equivalent to National Front Workers German official sindicate).these worker leader no stay accord with this and Nationalist bands sended the official message and ordered to dissapareing your sindicate.the official sindicate proclaim "Industrial Expansion","Workers for national service" and "Japanese spirit propagation",etc.the workers and empressdifferences are reduced at measure of making sacrifice for emperor. these acction are acclaim for Capitalists clans and poses results of appliying of Feudal laws between sirs and industrial subditss,and subdits to workers.
the industrialist participied in Japanese conquest plans for obtain
beneficts in one eventually agression to Soviet lands in Siberia
and/or invasion to Southern Pacific areas too,for expand your bussiness in these both areas.and aid to organized the economic sections of these plans too.one of these industrialist are Yoshisuke Aikawa,the leader of Manchukuo industry with Japanese Approbation  and the case of Mitsui industrial interest in same are,for example of much similar cases.
these centralization if seeing in Manchukuo/Kwantung,Chosen,Taiwan,Karafuto
South Mandate,and occuping areas during  chinese-japanese and pacific war too.these clans receivig much contracts for obtain more resources inthese areas,at finald  during last moments of war these economy stay
practically in ruins,non existing any resources and national economy
no functioned in none aspect.
Mikkalai 18:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: whole "Economy" section

message: the Japanese economy previous times at Mukden incident are more
similar at present days.but from these sucess to 1945,occured
one radical change,the Japanese Official Government Stablishment
decided to Centralized all economy aspects,in beneficts of
Zaibatsu Industrialist Clans,but why are more for common citizens
from these moments in japan are sanctioned  the"General national 
Movilization Act" for why all economic resources used to National
war efforts in China mainland and more later in Pacific area.
the Zaibatsus stay complaced for why receiving more weapons
contracs and managed part of these same resources joining at
Armed forces,but in other hand the common citizens suffering
the effects of scarcies in basic aliments basket,gasoline
coal,wood,milk fish,etc and others common basic things.
in contrary Japanese Army and Navy receiving in War fronts
much of these scarcies things in proper japan how part
of your logistics,but at final inclusive theirs encountered
much scarcies of this.these centralized economy are managed
in first moments for Naoki Hoshino,how director of Economy consell
,but more later continuing these politic Teijiro Toyoda,relationed  with Mitsui Clan.thing why satisfiying at Masatsune Ogura Director of  Sumitomo Industries.ogura promised at other Industrialist clans making much beneficts for poses one of theirs in government.
 
ore later are replaced for Leutenant General Seizo Sakonji,why
expresed why continuing the labor of predecesor in Economy and Commerce Ministerium.japanese persons making much imagination for making solutions respect at these grave situation.
the militarist no only having making weapons concessions and petitions,in more quantities,without,reafirm commercial desire of 7% in beneficts of iron and steel production.the official announced of government subsidies for foment the production.these official announced are formuled for the president of Steel anf Iron Administration Society,why stay relationed with Mitsui,Mitsubishi,Sumitomo and other capitalists clans.for
poses security of god intentions of Militarists, in your new empress
for making new weapons for foreing aggresion.
for example militarist poses only elogious words for well labour making  for Mitsui,Mitsubishi Sumitomo,Yasuda and other capitalist clans.the DOMEI press agency during pacific wartimes expressed why durig sucesses  in Dutch indies,USA and Great Britain colonies,the Leutenant General  Hyotaro Yamada havingposes well words for Capitalist clans for  making exelents weapons"superiors at general level in quality how quantity".
he national sindicates having rapid vanished,for express order of Army
with support of Nationalist bands.Komachiki Matsuoka,leader of "Japanese workers federation" are ordered to vanish your sindicate or fussioned with Official Sindicate "Industry Nation Service Society"(equivalent to National Front Workers German official sindicate).these worker leader no stay accord with this and Nationalist bands sended the official message and ordered to dissapareing your sindicate.the official sindicate proclaim "Industrial Expansion","Workers for national service" and "Japanese spirit propagation",etc.the workers and empressdifferences are reduced at measure of making sacrifice for emperor. these acction are acclaim for Capitalists clans and poses results of appliying of Feudal laws between sirs and industrial subditss,and subdits to workers.
the industrialist participied in Japanese conquest plans for obtain
beneficts in one eventually agression to Soviet lands in Siberia
and/or invasion to Southern Pacific areas too,for expand your bussiness in these both areas.and aid to organized the economic sections of these plans too.one of these industrialist are Yoshisuke Aikawa,the leader of Manchukuo industry with Japanese Approbation  and the case of Mitsui industrial interest in same are,for example of much similar cases.
these centralization if seeing in Manchukuo/Kwantung,Chosen,Taiwan,Karafuto
South Mandate,and occuping areas during  chinese-japanese and pacific war too.these clans receivig much contracts for obtain more resources inthese areas,at finald  during last moments of war these economy stay
practically in ruins,non existing any resources and national economy
no functioned in none aspect.
Mikkalai 18:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Economy

message: This page contains a lot of interesting facts, but also a lot of things that have little to do with nationalism.
The structure is very confusing. Why have a title called "Everyday life"? The first sentence of that paragraph is "Daily life in Imperial Japan became hard." When? So what? The author probably tries to give an historic explanation for some aspects of Japanese nationalism, but that could be said much clearer.
In some parts bad grammar makes the text incomprehensible. For example, what does "similar if reported in same times " mean? (It is not clear even in context.)
Sorry for not coming with more concrete proposals for fixing the shortcomings, but fixing it is a project that will take much more time than I currently have. Hopefully pointing out some of the shortcomings here is better than not doing anything at all.
--Mlewan 03:16, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some things that need to be cleaned up 

message: Why does the See Also "List of nationalist Japanese symbols" redirect back to this page? Was the list merged into this? Perhaps this See Also entry should be removed?
HeyRick1973 (talk) 00:42, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Recursion

message: Despite the controversy and troll sitting, the article is much improved from it's cleanup tagging. Tag removed. -- ∞Wirelain 05:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup tag 

message: How can the article that Japanese Imperialism Redirects to not mention Taiwan ONCE? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.34.0.92 (talk) 03:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Taiwan is nothing do with Japanese nationalism unless there was evidence of Taiwan engaging "Japanese nationalism".--Korsentry 02:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taiwan 

message: There's a lot here, but it does not seem particularly organized to me. Also, it seems awfully tilted towards a negative view of Japanese nationalism. Certainly, the nationalism which arose in the 1920s-40s, in tandem with militarism, imperialism, and fascist-like movements, was a very hostile and negative development. But that does not mean that national pride in itself is a negative thing simply because it's Japan. Greater discussion is needed of contemporary developments and attitudes, and a more neutral view needs to be expressed regarding the double-edged sword that is nationalism. Being proud of one's cultural heritage, the modernity, wealth, and economic prosperity of one's country, etc is not the same as visiting Yasukuni. And visiting Yasukuni to honor those who fell in service of their country is not the same as a display of militaristic/imperialistic/fascistic nationalism. LordAmeth 21:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Project Assessment

message: There should be a discussion about how some of the new religious movements affected japanese nationalism.Vontrotta (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New religious movements

message: I am quite certain that Hachiro Arita wasn't a general. Perhaps someone should try to dive deeper into both him and the other candidates on the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.7.83 (talk) 23:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hachiro Arita, 

message: We need to mention how Japanese nationalism tried to carved out ancient Korean history as Japanese history, Japan still holds over 200,000 artifacts and ancient historical texts from Korea.--Korsentry 02:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural thief 

message: Surely the navel and national flags (and the Hachimaki etc. for that matter) don't constitute nationalist symbols. The British flag; and bowler hats or Morris dancer outfits; do not feature on the British nationalism page under 'nationalist symbols'. This does indeed seem like a ridiculously biased, 1950's like, article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.21.29 (talk) 21:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationalist symbols?

message: The caption for one of the main images says "The Yasukuni Shrine built in the 19th century to honour those who died on behalf of the emperor of Japan. It supports a revisionist history and enshrines 14 class A war criminals." 
There is no citation to support the assertion that the shrine supports a revisionist history.
24.136.88.200 (talk) 01:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yasukuni Shrine caption 

message: I believe the article does need a subsection on religious beliefs, may it be State Shinto or Nichirenism, that lend a hand fostering a very unique Japanese style of nationalism. --Catflap08 (talk) 17:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion