Talk:Tamblot

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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070928001835/http://www.boholchronicle.com/may06/5-14-06/comm4.htm to http://www.boholchronicle.com/may06/5-14-06/comm4.htm
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello, everyone! I know that few people are likely to see this post judging from the inactivity of the article's talk page, but I wish to record some major changes I made to the article for the sake of posterity.
=== References list for the Tamblot article ===
Firstly, let us talk about what I changed about its sources.
Prior to my changes, the Wikipedia page for Tamblot cited the following site: it appears to be a page for a daily newspaper in the province of Bohol. The news article linked above advertises various cities located in the island to presumably tourists and outsiders (though when tagging the source as unreliable in the article I mistakenly referred to the source as a "blog") by talking about the activities to do there, as well as the history of the relevant locations.
Moreover, and more importantly, it fails to cite reliable sources for the paragraphs that discuss the towns' history. Take a look at the following excerpt:
Tamblot's place of origin, while most likely in Bohol, is unclear in terms of the exact town. The fact that this claim goes uncited, coupled with the article's promotional nature, makes the website discussed an unreliable source of information, and I have changed the Wikipedia article for Tamblot in order to reflect that.
Speaking of sources, I have also added a new source in the references list --- Gregorio Zaide's Philippine Political and Cultural History: The Philippines Since Pre-Spanish Times, to be exact --- to improve article quality with more reliable sources. There were also minor edits in the citations for two volumes of the book series The Philippine Islands, 1493-1898.
=== Lead section ===
Next, and this one is a pretty major change, I rewrote the lead section for the Tamblot article from scratch. For the curious, this is what it used to look like:
While admittedly brief and thus somewhat appropriate from all that I know about the topic, the overview is lacking in detail. Apart from some minor grammatical errors that required revision, something that did not sit right with me about the lead section was that it did not fully and accurately capture the essential details of how colonial-era sources recorded the event. For instance, we know that the revolt was religiously-motivated, but this part fails to emphasize the influence of indigenous religions (i.e. the mentions of a diwata) in kickstarting the revolts in the first place. Another example would be that all (primary) sources on Tamblot that I'm aware of point to the fact that a heavy rain poured over the battleground, which the Boholanos specifically interpreted as their deity helping them, but that also fails to be mentioned lol.
Finally, the following line "According to Legend, he challenged the Spanish priest, and when he won, he earned the trust of the people" really stuck out to me. First, which Spanish priest and which challenge that the sentence is talking about is unclear. One source, the friar Casimiro Diaz who was writing in the early 1700s, does mention that after a diwata appeared to Tamblot in the hills, some Boholanos attempted to build a shrine to the deity in question, and a Catholic priest saw what was going on and went off about it, ordering it to be demolished:
Though, of course, you won't exactly glean those specific details from the overview on its own, so that is a problem. Second, and finally, this supposed "challenge" is not what the sources attribute as the reason why Boholanos were convinced to join the cause. Instead, it was because Tamblot appealed to the community's continuing belief in their pre-Hispanic customs, urging that their local deities will help them push out the Spaniards for good.
=== What's next? ===
While a lot has been changed in the article since this day, Christmas of 2021, improvement is still far from done. Within the next few weeks, I intend to polish the Wikipedia page's section about Tamblot's biography (I might remove it entirely due to a paucity of available information; please do comment on the appropriate course of action), and incorporate translations and summaries of primary sources on the Tamblot revolts as collected by Blair and Robertson's The Philippine Islands for additional context.
I will post updates on this thread whenever I have accomplished major changes into the Wikipedia page. In the meantime, feel free to reply with your thoughts, questions, clarifications, and suggestions in this thread!
Happy reading, Wikipedians!
Troubled.elias (talk) 18:47, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up duty! 

message: While a lot has been changed in the article since this day, Christmas of 2021, improvement is still far from done. Within the next few weeks, I intend to polish the Wikipedia page's section about Tamblot's biography (I might remove it entirely due to a paucity of available information; please do comment on the appropriate course of action), and incorporate translations and summaries of primary sources on the Tamblot revolts as collected by Blair and Robertson's The Philippine Islands for additional context.
I will post updates on this thread whenever I have accomplished major changes into the Wikipedia page. In the meantime, feel free to reply with your thoughts, questions, clarifications, and suggestions in this thread!
Happy reading, Wikipedians!
Troubled.elias (talk) 18:47, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's next?