Talk:List of newspapers that reprinted Jyllands-Posten's Muhammad cartoons

message: It would be very helpful if the newspaper listings included publication schedule (daily, weekly, etc) and circulation.  This would help to separate the mainstream papers from fringe and tabloid publications. --StuffOfInterest 19:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Circulation

message: I think it would be relevant to indicate which drawings were reprinted by thoes papers that only reeprinted some. One might number the drawings and write the numbers in the table in those cases where it is known. Suggested numbering:
#star-and-crescent-face (M)
#bomb-in-turban (M,n)
#crescent-horns (M,n)
#stars-crescents-poem (n)
#wanderer-and-donkey (M)
#nervous-caricaturist (M)
#rioting-muslims (M)
#Muhammad-valby-school
#Muhammad-two-niqaabs (M,n)
#reception-in-heaven (M,n)
#orange-in-turban (M?)
#police-line-up (M?)
*(M) means breaks the ban on depicting Muhammad (as it obviously intends to depict him).
*(n) means appears to make negative statements about Muhammad (to varying degrees).
--Niels Ø 21:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Langbortistan? That's just a joke in Danish Donald Duck comics of a stereotypical Middle East country (Roughly meaning faraway-stan.) Btw, 6 could be considered M, at least as much as 11, since both "depicts depictions" of Muhammed, at least. 惑乱 分からん 09:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which drawings? 

message: A couple of the entries say "+ 1 new"...  so where's the new image?  Where did it come from, and what does it say?
Hephaestion 06:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the new image? 

message: Hephaestion 05:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UPDATE: 

message: Hephaestion 09:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UPDATE ON FIRST UK PUBLICATION 

message: I have a copy of the Feb. 7 Sun here and I don't see any of the cartoons in it. JohnnyB 16:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toronto Sun?  

message: User:Netscott changed the order of the two lists. Whether or not this move was correct he has succesfully destroyed the reference section. I'm going to revert the change. --Maitch 17:50, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough! Hehe... a little perl scripting and voilà, c'est fait! Netscott 20:45, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Ah.. I see what you mean... I tend to agree... but that looks to be quite a bit of work! That said it is a bit nice to see Egypt as #2 on the chrono list. Netscott 20:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh heck, I figured another little Perl script would take care of it. :)  If things are quiet later on I'll try to tackle the change manually.  It didn't take me too long to add in the circulation column to both tables.  The only concern is edit conflicts if someone tries to add more data while I'm reformatting. --StuffOfInterest 21:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't change the order if you don't want to do all the work

message: Shouldn't this article be called List of newspapers that reprinted Jyllands-Posten's Muhammad cartoons? The newspaper is called Jyllands-Posten, not Jylland-Posten. Aecis Mr. Mojo risin' 19:08, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is correct. I've corrected the typo and some of the links to this page. --Maitch 21:28, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: While the date on both the printed edition and the online edition says February 8, Veja actually goes out on Sundays (and we often buy then late Saturday). I asked around, and was told it is often dated some days after it is printed — and I don't have the slightest idea why. --cesarb 19:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Preprints are quite common in the newspaper world. See Bulldog edition. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veja 

message: If the idea is to list papers, not websites, I think, despite the name, the Brussels Journal should be removed.
I never saw a printed copy of the Brussels Journal. Nothing on the site points to a newspaper. For receiving the newsletter, you are only asked to give your email address. In "Who we are" you find only a list of names. It does not appear in 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Belgium
I agree.  It's a blog.  Don't mix it with real newspapers.  Lotsofissues 20:09, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted it from the list. -- Avenue 23:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brussels journal  

message: The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung is a daily newspaper with a circulation of about 375.000. Source: IVW Q1/2005 
The Welt is daily with 244.000 Source: IVW Q3/2005
The Zeit is a weekly with 465.000. Source: IVW Q1/2005
IVW means "Informationsgemeinschaft zur Feststellung der Verbreitung von Werbeträgern e. V." you can find the german WP article here: []
Would someone please insert this into the table. I can't cope with that stuff :-) --Adornix 20:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: added. --KimvdLinde 03:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German papers 

message: Could someone make a world map showing which countries have newspapers/magazines that have published the cartoons? --85.187.180.47 08:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plans for this are being discussed on the talk page for Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, most recently under Talk:Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy#Map_final?. -- Avenue 09:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of Cartoon-Enlightened Countries? 

message: The work of editing this list is complicated by having two tables. At the moment, it seems like the following entries are to be found in one of the tables only:
*Brisbane Courier Mail
*The Courier-Mail
*Derstandard
*Hospodářské noviny
I suggest we kill the "Ordered by country" table; it is redundant, and people can use the search-on-thi-page feature in their browsers if they want to. Once the list stabilizes, someone may want to re-add the country table.--Niels Ø 19:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two tables were agreed originally, and there has been lots of good feedback. They are easy to edit and can be edited individually.Hephaestion 20:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's so easy, why didn't you fix the discrepancies I mentioned? I've now fixed them, I hope.--Niels Ø 09:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we need two tables? 

message: As I remeber, the French speaking press in Belgium was begin februari against publication.
According to 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caricatures_de_Mahomet#Belgique
Le soir printed a cartoon the 2/2/2006 that represented nothing and with the text "Ceci n'est pas Mahomet" - This is not Mohammed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.10.87.252 (talk • contribs) .
::I have amended the entry to reflect the above.Hephaestion 07:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Le Soir 

message: It turned out that a Russian weekly, the Bryansk-based Subbota (Saturday), had published two of the Jyllans-Posten cartoons on Feb. 10 (http://www.regnum.ru/news/591709.html). Later the newspaper removed  the controversial cartoons from its website.
Besides, this should be linked to the controversy surrounding an illustration in the Volgograd-based municipal daily Gorodskiye Vesti which depicted Moses, Jesus, Buddha and Muhammad sitting in front of a TV set. The TV showed two banner-carrying mobs looking for a fight. The bubble text above read: 'We didn't teach them to do THAT...'. It was reported today that the Russian Chief Prosecutor's Office is going to press charges against the newspaper 'for fomenting interreligious strife', and Volgograd's Deputy Mayor said that the daily may be stopped. Later the newspaper was liquidated. --Vladko 13:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russia 

message: Even the last dictatorship in Europe (Belarus) couldn't stop the cartoon tide. The independent Zgoda weekly published several 'cartoons on the Muhammad cartoons'. Most of the circulation of some 5000 copies was stopped by the authorities. The Belarus KGB (yes, they still have the KGB!) has started criminal procedures against the paper. Its premises were searched and the Deputy Editor was taken away for questioning: http://naviny.by/ru/content/rubriki/1-ya_gruppa/obschestvo/22-02-06-1/.
--Vladko 07:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belarus 

message: Hi just found a small message that a danish journalist school has counted 144 publications in 56 contries. We have the same number of countries, did not count the # of publications --KimvdLinde 14:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danish reporter school: 144 newspapers in 56 countries 

message: I'm in discussion with who appears to be the editor-in-chief of the paper, and awaiting a linkable (if possible) reference. Until then I've included the information emailed to me. I've contacted two Lithuanian wikipedians, hoping to find someone with access to archives of the paper, incase the links are subscriber only. -- Jeandré, 2006-03-21t21:48z
:When I edited this and Timeline of the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, they listed 4 cartoons published on 2006-02-07. I've added (from the editor's email) that they published 1 cartoon on 2006-02-06 and 9 on 2006-02-08. None of this info has references I can verify yet. -- Jeandré, 2006-03-21t22:04z
::I could find that Respublika published 1 cartoon on its front page on the 6th. However, I found this and the next page from Vakaro Zinios. Renata 02:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh and those two newspapers belong to the same group. And there is no online subsription service. Renata 02:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Respublika (Lithuanian newspaper)]].

message: I don't think that this page should contain papers that published "new" cartoons, only those that reprinted (some of) the JP cartoons. Loads of newspapers must have carried cartoons about the controversy, and they clearly don't count. "New' cartoons that feature Mohammed may be a borderline case. Do they merit inclusion here? Azate 04:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "New" cartoons 

message: Perhaps the name should be publications rather than newspapers?  There's at least some magazines in there, and I imagine there will be books at some point too.
And this is maybe a stupid question, but what's the point of the list exactly?  Why might somebody want to know who reprinted the cartoons? Esquizombi 03:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Iran's president ordered the cancellation of contracts with any country where the cartoons were republished (look under Timeline_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy#4_February), and the Islamic Army announced that citizens of these countries should be captured and killed (5 Feb). In several of these countries, there were protests specifically against the republication of the cartoons. The list also provides a measure of how conflicts between freedom of speech, offending religious sensibilities, and fear of retaliation have been handled in different countries. -- Avenue 14:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change name?

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "IVW" :
** Informationsgemeinschaft zur Feststellung der Verbreitung von Werbeträgern e. V.
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| 2 cartoons
| 31 January 2006
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| Brazil
| Folha de Sao Paulo
| 350,000 daily
| 1 cartoon
| 31 January 2006
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| Greece
| Eleftherotypia
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| 1 cartoon
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DumZiBoT (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: Some of the links are outdated and point to a 404, amongst others: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/03/belgium.cartoons.ap/ H. (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  outdated links 

message: I made the table a sortable table.
Unless I missed something, this means that the second table is no longer needed, and updates can be made to a single table, rather than trying to maintain two tables. Obviously, sorting by reference isn't particularly meaningful, and if someone really wants the ability to sort by that column removed, I can do that. Making the table sortable means you can also sort, for example, by circulation, although doing that reveals that some editing is needed to make sure it sorts properly. (Inserting xxx will ensure that the field sorts using xxx.)
I won't remove the second table immediately, it makes sense to take a little time to ensure that there aren't any issues introduced by the sorting that aren't immediately obvious.--SPhilbrickT 20:09, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The date won't sort correctly as is—let's get consensus this is a desirable feature (sortable table), and I'll look into replacing the date with a date that sorts correctly.--SPhilbrickT 20:12, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table now sortable 

message: I just used  to italicize Jyllands-Posten, but I couldn't get it to not italicize the apostrophe as well. If someone could sort it out, that would be great. --BDD (talk) 22:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pickiest of issues 

message: Should a separate article of the same nature be created for publications who reprinted the "Charlie Hebdo" cover following their 2015 attack? --WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 02:50, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I created it. List of Newspapers that reprinted Charlie Hebdo issue No. 1178. --WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 14:25, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: 2015 Charlie Hebdo Attack

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