Talk:Model United Nations

message: Hi, I've noticed that this article generally lacks smoothness in its writing, in addition to being rather poor at explaining what Model UN really is and what it involves. I've completely rewritten the intro piece, as well as the sections on History and Languages. In addition, I have added sections on Model UN Around the world and In pop culture.
Although I have made some changes to the committees section, it is by no means complete. Thankfully the long and needless list of UN organizations has been removed (it really just filled up space, and deceived people into thinking Model UN is confined to simulations of the United Nations).
In addition, the section on Rules of procedure needs some serious work as well.csbisbee (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul 

message: Hello! I've archived the previous talk page to here: /Archive 2. I'm attempting to start a new editing cleanup for this page. I've looked over the article, and here are the issues:
*Sources: There are almost no reliable secondary sources for the concepts described on the page. The only references are for examples.
*Range: Most of the concepts seem to describe a selectively local group. Since this is about MUNs in general, it should have sourced content about MUNs in general.
*Organization: The sections should have better organization and be arranged with a general reader in mind. 
*Specific Examples: Specific MUNs should be added here: List of Model United Nations conferences.
There seems to be a lot of material being contributed to this page by various editors, but please remember that all assertions should be sourced and that content should follow WP:N. Please do not write advertisements. To start with, I will remove the section  THIMUN Online Model United Nations. Thank youKkj11210 (talk) 01:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: New Editing

message: I removed a load of trivial content but was reverted without explanation.  Do you really need to list every time someone mentions the word "Model UN" in some kind of media?  Also an established editor reverting an obvious good faith and clearly summarized edit without explanation is really bad form. --2601:1:9A00:AC00:5AB0:35FF:FE5D:A1F3 (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologize if your edit was in a good faith, but at the time it appeared to be an attempt at sneaky vandalism. You unilaterally removed a large piece of the article under popular culture claiming it all to be "trivial" when a fair amount of what you removed directly centered on Model UN (i.e. content that more than just "mentions the word [sic] 'Model UN'"). I am glad that you brought this up on the talk page and clarified that you merely made a mistake in overly enthusiastically removing trivial content (as there definitely was some, and its removal is appreciated) and were not in fact purposefully compromising the integrity of the article. Thanks! Cjeongbis (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't make a mistake, what I removed were unreferenced trivial mentions of the article subject.  Your patronizing attitude is unhelpful. Pop culture references should only be listed when their relevance is backed up by secondary sources. WP:POPCULTURE is a good essay on the topic. Do you plan on finding secondary sources which discuss something like Parks and Recreations mention of Model UN? 2601:1:9A00:AC00:5AB0:35FF:FE5D:A1F3 (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The popular culture pieces were referenced (I'll reproduce the reference here: bestdelegate.com/diplomacy-on-the-silver-screen-model-un-from-a-pop-culture-perspective/), though not individually (and that can easily be fixed). Also, I was being earnest not patronizing. (Just to be clear, the reference explains Parks and Recreations's episode devoted to Model UN). Cjeongbis (talk) 21:00, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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message: The cover photo that promotes Becoming-a-MODEL-UN-delegate Step By Step Guide. Is this appropriate? I don't think it should be there and should be moved to references. Eddydavik (talk) 07:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: Please add mentions of AUDMUN and AUSMUN as notable MUN Conferences under the UAE section. 5.37.148.36 (talk) 11:31, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2017 

message: === Soham Das ===
Model United Nations conferences are simulations of various international and national executive and legislative committees , forums or organs. It is a vibrant forum for discussion and deliberations. Model United Nations provides you with a perspective. Your allotment or portfolio determines your perspective or approach to the problem at hand. In Model United Nations conferences , portfolio or allotments are your assigned roles in the discussion. Your preparation and performance will depend on this. For example, you might be allotted Defense Minister in a simulation of the Union Cabinet. Preference is indication of your affinity for any particular portfolio or allotment, say Republic of India. You should ideally indicate it on the MUN registration form.
It will be an enlightening experience for the students and they would surely get more exposure.
 To, begin with I am providing you with some original content about international relations, MUN and the United Nations.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-role-of-the-United-Nations-UN-if-a-war-erupts-between-two-or-more-countries/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-world-still-need-the-US-for-leadership/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-UN-serve-as-a-balance-against-US-dominance/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/What-does-portfolio-preference-mean-in-MUN/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/How-shall-I-represent-Libya-in-MUN-INTERPOL-where-we-discuss-cybercrime-and-transnational-terrorism/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
In simple words, MUN stands for MODEL UNITED NATIONS. Now, what are MUNs? It is an interactive forum for discussion on diverse issues of both national and international concern. It is usually hosted by universities, colleges and even schools. Its a lot of fun and a learning experience too. You get to know a lot of nice, intelligent people. You get to make new friends. And for those of you on the look-out for civil services, there cannot be a better homework for you. It would make you industry-ready. It will kick the shyness out off you and make you smart, confident and corporate. DAS SOHAM (talk) 23:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. st170e 23:36, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2017 

message: Model United Nations conferences are simulations of various international and national executive and legislative committees , forums or organs. It is a vibrant forum for discussion and deliberations. Model United Nations provides you with a perspective. Your allotment or portfolio determines your perspective or approach to the problem at hand. In Model United Nations conferences , portfolio or allotments are your assigned roles in the discussion. Your preparation and performance will depend on this. For example, you might be allotted Defense Minister in a simulation of the Union Cabinet. Preference is indication of your affinity for any particular portfolio or allotment, say Republic of India. You should ideally indicate it on the MUN registration form.
It will be an enlightening experience for the students and they would surely get more exposure.
 To, begin with I am providing you with some original content about international relations, MUN and the United Nations.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-role-of-the-United-Nations-UN-if-a-war-erupts-between-two-or-more-countries/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-world-still-need-the-US-for-leadership/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-UN-serve-as-a-balance-against-US-dominance/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/What-does-portfolio-preference-mean-in-MUN/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
https://www.quora.com/How-shall-I-represent-Libya-in-MUN-INTERPOL-where-we-discuss-cybercrime-and-transnational-terrorism/answer/Soham-Coeur-DLion
In simple words, MUN stands for MODEL UNITED NATIONS. Now, what are MUNs? It is an interactive forum for discussion on diverse issues of both national and international concern. It is usually hosted by universities, colleges and even schools. Its a lot of fun and a learning experience too. You get to know a lot of nice, intelligent people. You get to make new friends. And for those of you on the look-out for civil services, there cannot be a better homework for you. It would make you industry-ready. It will kick the shyness out off you and make you smart, confident and corporate. DAS SOHAM (talk) 23:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. st170e 23:36, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soham Das 

message: add "2017- Global Populism and National Identity" to the table in the "Korea" section of the Model United Nations page, with '2017' under 'year' and 'Global Populism and National Identity" under 'conference agenda'. Source: https://www.seomunxx.com/ https://www.seomunxx.com/ Turkeyluck (talk) 09:39, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2017 

message: Add Hong Kong to the Asia section of the page, and include these conferences:
CDNISMUNhttps://www.cdnismun.org/ An annual conference which takes place at Canadian International School and includes delegations from both local and international schools in hong kong, and has also started inviting delegations from overseas schools.
VSAMUN https://sites.google.com/site/victoriashanghaiacademymodelun/ The Victoria-Shanghai Academy MUN is a conference for beginner delegates to gain experience of what an MUN Conference is. Held annually, it compromises of delegates from all over Hong Kong.
CISMUN
SISMUN
HKMUN https://www.hkmun.org/ Hong Kong MUN is the largest MUN held annually in Hong Kong during March. Compromising of hundreds of students from both local and international schools, this MUN seeks to encourage students to debate about issues of global political significance. 
Hong Kong continues to provide a wide range of conferences for students in both local and international schools to attend over the course of the year. Turkeyluck (talk) 09:52, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done but open for more discussion – Two of the provided sources are future events and the other two are plain primary. I'd say wait this out until coverage in reliable secondary sources appears. ToThAc (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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message: I have advised MUN for 20 years and out of frustration with the current books available decided to write my own. I would like this resource added to the "Books" section. The book contains instructions and exercises to develop key MUN skills in addition to basic information about the UN. I am not asking for an advertisement, just a listing alongside the others with a link so readers can be aware it is an option.
Engaging the United Nations: A Brief Introduction to the UN. Brian Dille. Engagement Learning. 2017. ISBN: 9780998851808
Embed the following link in the title: www.engagingtheun.com
Thanks for considering this request. 71.211.103.86 (talk) 22:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — MRD2014 Talk 00:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2018 

message: Youth Model United Nations (Y-MUN) was established in 2017 in Kabul Afghanistan. Youth Model United Nations (talk) 18:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  —  IVORK Discuss 21:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2018 

message: 176.205.126.112 (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 17:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2018 

message: Reason: Add below text to Japan: Model United Nation conference by region and countries tag. Many missing information
==== Japan ====
Model UN was first introduced to Japan in 1983 by Sadako Ogata (former UN High Commissioner for Refugees). MUN activities then gradually spread across Japan, conducted now in various universities. There are currently over 700 students conducting MUN activities in Japan; to list some, students range from University of Tokyo, Waseda University, Keio University, Sophia University, Kyoto University to Osaka University. With its over 30 years of history, Japanese MUN graduates are now leading wide range of careers including international organizations, Japanese ministries, financial sectors, IT companies, media, higher educational institutions and NGOs.
Currently, Japan Model United Nations (JMUN, an umbrella organization managing MUN activities and conferences in Japan) holds three other conferences apart from AJMUN (Kansai MUN in August, Kyushu Summer Session in September, Hokuriku MUN in November). Also, it is responsible for training and sending selected Japanese delegates to NMUN (National MUN in New York). JCK (Japan China Korea) Youth Forum and Global Classrooms (MUN for high school students) are other examples that show how MUN activities are widespread across Japan. In recent years, increasing number of high school students or even company leaders enjoy MUN activities for its educational values.
In recent years, MUN in Japan is usually hosted by the international schools and universities in Japan too. Kindai University, Kobe University, Tsukuba University, Senzoku Gakuen and Tokyo International University have all hosted Model United Nations conference. These conferences are typically separated into university and high school levels. Model United Nations conferences are run by the school or the university club, with some guidance from their advisors. These regional MUN conferences from students in Japan are widely recognized by the Japan Model United Nation committees. Big conferences hosted by students such as: Japan English Model United Nation; Tsukuba English Model United Nation;  Tokyo International University Model United Nation have gained a lot more recognition over the years. These yearly conferences agenda are chosen after careful and extensive deliberation and discussion by the Organizing Committee and deals with an issue of great importance to the world that needs to be addressed with comprehensive and innovative solutions; that serve as a basis for resolutions in the future. Rwby00 (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The sources provided don't satisfy reliable sources as they are either original research (the JMUN, Tsukuba, tiu, nmun & waseken refs), self-referring (you can't use wikipedia as its own reference) or questionable reliability (best delegate is fairly similar to an industry magazine in this context, and so reliability is possible, but questioned). I wasn't quite able to determine news2u's reliability, but it wasn't sufficient evidence for more than a small amount of the article, which wouldn't make much sense on its own. The key bit is reliable, secondary sources Nosebagbear (talk) 15:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2018 

message: Model UN was first introduced to Japan in 1983 by Sadako Ogata (former UN High Commissioner for Refugees). MUN activities then gradually spread across Japan, conducted now in various universities. There are currently over 700 students conducting MUN activities in Japan; to list some, students range from University of Tokyo, Waseda University, Keio University, Sophia University, Kyoto University to Osaka University. With its over 30 years of history, Japanese MUN graduates are now leading wide range of careers including international organizations, Japanese ministries, financial sectors, IT companies, media, higher educational institutions and NGOs.
Currently, Japan Model United Nations (JMUN, an umbrella organization managing MUN activities and conferences in Japan) holds three other conferences apart from AJMUN (Kansai MUN in August, Kyushu Summer Session in September, Hokuriku MUN in November). Also, it is responsible for training and sending selected Japanese delegates to NMUN (National MUN in New York). JCK (Japan China Korea) Youth Forum and Global Classrooms (MUN for high school students) are other examples that show how MUN activities are widespread across Japan. In recent years, increasing number of high school students or even company leaders enjoy MUN activities for its educational values.
In recent years, MUN in Japan is usually hosted by the international schools and universities in Japan too. Kindai University, Kobe University, Tsukuba University, Senzoku Gakuen and Tokyo International University have all hosted Model United Nations conference. These conferences are typically separated into university and high school levels. Model United Nations conferences are run by the school or the university club, with some guidance from their advisors. These regional MUN conferences from students in Japan are widely recognized by the Japan Model United Nation committees. Big conferences hosted by students such as: Japan English Model United Nation; Tsukuba English Model United Nation;  Tokyo International University Model United Nation have gained a lot more recognition over the years. These yearly conferences agenda are chosen after careful and extensive deliberation and discussion by the Organizing Committee and deals with an issue of great importance to the world that needs to be addressed with comprehensive and innovative solutions; that serve as a basis for resolutions in the future. Rwby00 (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The sources provided don't satisfy reliable sources as they are either original research (the JMUN, Tsukuba, tiu, nmun & waseken refs), self-referring (you can't use wikipedia as its own reference) or questionable reliability (best delegate is fairly similar to an industry magazine in this context, and so reliability is possible, but questioned). I wasn't quite able to determine news2u's reliability, but it wasn't sufficient evidence for more than a small amount of the article, which wouldn't make much sense on its own. The key bit is reliable, secondary sources Nosebagbear (talk) 15:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan 

message: == Model UN by region and country ==
=== South America ===
====Brazil====
IBMRMUN
The IBMR Model United Nations is a MUN Conference held in the city of Rio de Janeiro, nearby the Olympic Park, in Barra da Tijuca. It is organized by students of the course of International Relations, Law, Journalism and Economics of Uni IBMR. During the 4th edition, in 2018, IBMR MUN became the largest MUN Conference in the State of Rio de Janeiro, and one of the largest in the Southeast of Brazil and the secretariat officialized the international status of the event, stating the two official languages, Portuguese (National Language) and English (International Language), as well as IBMRMUN's multilingual services. The Conference, currently, offers full consulting for prospective delegates in Portuguese, English, Spanish and French, and partial consulting in German, Italian, Japanese and Korean. The Conference seeks to create an open space for ideas, culture sharing and friendship, as well as a place for knowledge improvement, emphasizing the need of inclusion. That's why IBMR MUN is one of the most inclusive Conferences in Brazil, aiming the lowest costs for delegates. Due to our slogan, "Turning Ideas into Action", IBMR MUN is also a partner of UNIC Rio(United Nations Information Center in Rio de Janeiro) and Caritas, local representative of UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees), which IBMR  MUN supports, such as  performing campaign, mainly for Venezuelan and Haitian Refugees. The event, usually, lasts four days, including lectures, debates and networking chances. 187.48.167.29 (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 19:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2018 

message: 39.32.48.232 (talk) 13:44, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2019 

message: I'd like to add a section about Switzerland Arteditsorus (talk) 09:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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message: The creation of the List of Model United Nations conferences has managed to clearly remove much of the advertising and self-promotion from here. It's not over, but it's something.
Now what truly needs to happen is a review of the structure. The Model UN by region and country section has become disproportionately big, and some other categories are pretty much useless and could be merged together. I also believe that the general rules section should be split between classic MUN and crisis committees.
So, what needs to go and what needs to stay in terms of structure?
--Pilaz (talk) 20:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I strongly agree with the point about splitting the general rules section into crisis and classic committees. Because crisis committees are an important, unique aspect of Model UN in their own right, I think it is fair to go ahead with editing that section without further delay. Hexlance (talk) 01:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Update: I just completed writing a Crisis Committee subsection, this is my first time editing on Wikipedia so if anything is wrong, feel free to change it! Hexlance (talk) 01:43, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renewing the structure 

message: I'm removing the following "notable participants" because I cannot find any source about them, and they have just been sitting unsourced in this section for years:
* Ryan Seacrest: no source found. No reference to Model UN on his Wikipedia page.
* Barack Obama: no source found. No reference to Model UN on his Wikipedia page.
* Samuel L. Jackson: no source found. No reference to Model UN on his Wikipedia page.
* Stephen Breyer: no source found. No reference to Model UN on his Wikipedia page.
I saved a few notable participants, although they are not technically full participants in Model UN:
* Ban Ki-moon has claimed he participated in a UN debate when in university
* Stephen M. Schwebel was president of the society which sent Model UN delegations at Harvard, and reportedly participated in a UNESCO committee, but it's unknown if the format was Model UN. He seemed less interested in simulations that I initially thought.
Pilaz (talk) 13:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable participants 

message: Clearly most of the conferences listed are irrelevant because unencyclopedic. I'd especially like to point to the fact that almost all conferences plugged in this article for promotional purposes and have zero coverage beyond primary sources, i.e. their own website.
Take for example this passage, which I have moved out of the Article to here:
 In 2018 , a company focused on delivering the authentic MUN experience Pinakulo started with their innagural conference The Army Public School MUN , Bhopal 
The key feature here should be that we need to move the national stuff out of the main page and keep it at an encyclopedic reasonable level. Just because a conference was founded last year isn't a reason to be on Wikipedia, and definitely not on the main Wikipedia page for MUN. Pilaz (talk) 16:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming down national sections of Model United Nations 

message: In line with the above, I'm proposing that we strike every conference in the page that doesn't have a secondary source supporting them (whether that source is good enough can be considered in the usual manner). And we continue to do so - we clear it out every six months or year and they slowly trickle back in. 
I know I could just go the BRD approach, but I thought It'd be better to give at least a chance for someone to object before wiping a good 25% of the article. 
It's a hoard of promotional stuff that we already have a perfectly good list for. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:48, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. There's honestly no way around this. We've got to put an end to WP:PROMO on this page. I recommend we ping editors who added individual conferences to look for secondary sources by a deadline. We could set August 15 as a deadline, which is a full week. Thanks for the initiative Nosebagbear. Pilaz (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

text: @Israelidan, here's a version with what you wrote on Israel. I suggest you re-add it only if you have secondary sources. Pilaz (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of non-secondary sourced conferences 

message: Though it won't, and can't, be a complete list, I'm pinging various users who have added conference content in the last year. Please ensure you have at least 1 suitable secondary reference for any conference you have added by the 14th August. If you've already added a suitable source, thank you, please feel free to ignore. 
 Nosebagbear (talk) 17:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: @Israelidan, here's a version with what you wrote on Israel. I suggest you re-add it only if you have secondary sources. Pilaz (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Pinging

message: *Right, I've taken a rusty axe to the content - hence the now hoard of "empty section" tags. If anyone wants to remove them until content is added, that's fine. There is one table that wasn't particularly promotional in its existence, but the conferences are already on the list of conferences, so seemed to serve no purpose as a duplication. I did a brief check for each country's paragraph and in-depth one for several of them, usually with no joy. I did find that Morocco has a surprisingly good source coverage, despite no mention in this article. Please do not re-add the content without adding sources with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosebagbear (talk • contribs) 14 August 2019 (UTC)
* I've reviewed all your edits and can't disapprove any, so congratulations on taking a jab at this. Concerning the "empty section" tags, I suggest we keep them around for a month or so and take them out if no one is willing to add stuff to them. I also think Spain may have some sources in Spanish regarding Model UN, so if I see one or more I'll be sure to re-add a little bit of it into the article. I'm also considering Denmark as a candidate for removal, since no secondary sources have emerged - I'll take a second look though. Pilaz (talk) 22:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: Saudi Arabia Model United Nations is the biggest MUN Conferences in the Middle East region. They aim to place Riyadh as the next Hub for Youth conferences and the new global center for MUN. It hosts over 1,000 participants. It is hosted in King Faisal School, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Their website is www.samun.net. https://sabq.org/hT5tZM . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lh5pLoGl8E . https://www.kfs.sch.sa/ar/node/402 . Albizioui (talk) 10:28, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: . It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:13, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2019 

message: While several guides on the techniques of writing Position Papers, including templates and examples, are available, no conferences publish their Study Guides, Position Papers or Resolutions.[citation needed] 
This point varies from conference to conference, some have their study guides public, but it's not as common to upload position papers or resolutions nonetheless. Do advise nonetheless! :) Aaryan  📬 • 🥰 08:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for line in 'Academic aspects' 

message: I have reverted your addition of dots to the acronym of "MUN". MOS:POINTS states that it's customary "not to use full points" within an acronym, and this is well-established within English Wikipedia. However, I take your point on pronounciation, given that two exist: the one pronounced as single letters, and the one as a full word (less common). Perhaps it'd be worth to have both in parenthesis following the acronym as you suggested.
Appreciate your feedback. Thanks. Pilaz (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the bold edit since it is very common to mispronounce it as an acronym. I would be okay with just adding something like "()" right next to the acronym abbreviation. It might be a controversial edit without reliable sources to back this. But, I didn’t quite understand you, did you want to include its pronunciation as a single word () as well? Idell (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: MUN is the correct way to write it, but giving both pronunications seems reasonable. It is, of course, almost always spoken as "mun" once something is added to it (most commonly conference names) Nosebagbear (talk) 15:42, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If we decide to include both pronunciations, and if they can be cited, then we could also mention the pronunciation as individual letters to be the preferred version. Idell (talk) 18:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Use MUN, per MOS:ABBR. Please read the applicable style guideslines before re-re-re-opening old style arguments.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:05, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  MUN vs M.U.N. 

message: Looking for some 3rd opinions on the recent changes to the Israel subsection (made by ).
I'm not saying that they have a COI (assuming they're not the writer), I'm saying that since the source at diplomacy.co.il is written by the founder of Debate for Peace, there's a COI with the source and so it is non-independent. The latter sentence of the first paragraph is also sourced to a primary source and so should be removed. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel subsection source review 

message: I believe the previous decision to remove the capitalization from MUN (from "Model UN" to "model UN") to go against the general trend in RS. From a small sample of reliable sources, if one excludes conference names, opinion pieces and announcements from reliable sources, one gets the following results:
               	Model United Nations Excluding conference names	model United Nations Excluding conference names	Model UN	model UN	URLs
The Atlantic   	4                                              	3                                              	17      	4       	
BBC            	3                                              	1                                              	2       	2       	
Washington Post	43                                             	30                                             	52      	17      	
New York Times 	29                                             	33                                             	20      	15      	
Institutions and organizations	Model United Nations/Model UN                             	model United Nations/model UN
Canada                        	UN Association in Canada                                  	N/A
India                         	IFUNA                                                     	N/A
New Zealand                   	UN Association of New Zealand, youth branch               	N/A
Singapore                     	UN Association - Singapore                                	N/A
United Kingdom                	UN Association – UK                                       	N/A
United Nations                	United Nations Secretariat, UNIS - Vienna                 	N/A
United States                 	State Department, UN Association - United States (UNA-USA)	N/A
There seems to also be unanimity among institutions, including the UN, to use the capitalized version, too.
So, time for a change back to the capitalization? Pilaz (talk) 15:02, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization of MUN, part II