Talk:Super Mario Galaxy/Archive 3

message: Does anyone know the name of the game engine (i.e., middleware) used in the development of Super Mario Galaxy? Is it third-party or in-house? Aeonassoc 15:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Engine 

message: Will this game be out in time for Christmas?
Well, it's supposed to be out this year. Big chance it'll be released sometime before the last week of December. --ThomasO1989 13:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It will be released November 12.  Useight 17:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas 

message: You think along with everybody raving about the game you could also add Reggie's comment at E3 07 that it's the first worthy successor to Mario 64?  (Zojo 17:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: Why does it say in the article that this is NOT Super Mario 128? Yet according to Wikipedia, it is. Pluvia 04:53, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Super Mario 128 was a purposed idea for a direct sequel to Super Mario 64 (ie, 64 x 2 = 128). The idea first came along in some Nintendo meeting where this video was shown. It involved 128 mini-Marios picking up blocks and chucking them off a stage Pikmin-style. This became a long running in joke and, when Mario Galaxy was announced, some people supposed that it was the M128 concept finally coming to be. It turns out, though, that the video was just a demonstration; the features listed in the video (which also included 'spear walking,' such as is Galaxy's theme) were already incorporated into a number of other games.--Is this fact...? 09:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is Super Mario 128? 

message: Should someone remove the line "Various worlds include Egg Planet galaxy, Cookie Factory galaxie, Honey Bee galaxy, Star Dust galaxy, Beach Bowl galaxy, and the Gateway galaxy."?
The names are definately not official and may not officially be "galaxies". It also resembles most vandalisms. 75.36.203.231
:If not already removed it should be, since it is fake info, and there is no credible source even if it is true. Miles Blues 18:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? Sine when was real information vandalism? These names came straight from Nintendo and IGN, who played it at E3.--Claude 07:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galaxies? 

message: In all the E3 gameplay videos, there are time limits, does anyone know what would happen if they ran out, what they're for, etc? I hate having time limits as it stops you exploring the game but anyway, i think this should be added to the article.
:I think the time limit was just for the demo, so when time ran out, someone else would get to play it. -- PowerslaveTC 16:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Time Limits

message: Do you think that it is confirmed that Princess Rosetta is kidnapped instead of Princess Peach and if not do you think we should delete it?
Jamesjack 16:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it confirmed? We have two pictures of her. That's it, nothing more. -Sukecchi 19:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, as far as we know two or more princessess could have been kidnapped. Just because she is here does not mean Peach won't be. --67.68.155.170 03:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

text: No it is not. [Rosetta pictures]. --67.71.79.232 21:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princess Rosetta 

message: Well, I see that the article states that Mario Galaxy production started during DKJB. So, I say it is wrong to put that it clearly denies the possibility of Mario 128 being Galaxy. Actually Mario 128's production started in late 2004. The game that was being produced after the Mario 128 Demo was actually Mario 64 2. After 2 years of production it was cancelled for lack of creativity and story. After E3 2004, the Mario 128 was mentioned on a question. Miyamoto stated clearly that Mario 128 was being started on prodution. Now if you think I'm wrong about it go and see the date DKJB was launched in Japan. Everybody knows that Mario 128 was being made in Japan. So I suggest to take that phrase off the article.  Mr. Mario 192 16:39, 1 August 2007  (UTC)
:Do you have any sources?  Geoff B 20:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Production 

message: Why was the boxart placed there? That's not the confirmed boxart as it comes from a 3rd party source with no confirmation from Nintendo. I think it should be replaced with the Mario Galaxy logo.
It should be left since it looks better.
First of sign your comments, next if the boxart is unoffiacal, it should be taken down to be replaced with the game logo, however this boxart looks convincing in that it shows new art that is not just pasted over a wii boxart template. But still unless you can PROVE that it is real it will be taken down, no matter how much better it looks.→041744 21:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't hesitate to replace fake stuff in an article, such as the fake boxart.  I replaced the fake boxart with the official logo. Miles Blues 04:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 
*Thisis not the official SMG website. That's just for info released during E3.
* Both Gamespot and Go Nintendo show this boxart. Go Nintendo says its straight from Nintendo's press room. Do you think they are lying?
*Check out this page from Nintendo for Metroid Prime 3 Corruption. Not only does it not have any boxart, it shows the old logo. That must mean the new boxart is fake, obviously :P. Here's the page for Wario Ware Smooth Moves. The official page doesn't show the boxart, oh no!  Tehw1k1 22:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Two websites with no relation with Nintendo does not warrant it be declared official, they could copy cat each other or the like. No official Nintendo site has released boxart (or if they have, link it!) so do you really think that these two stand alone sites would get the real boxart before Nintendo gave it out? We need an OFFICIAL Nintendo site to say weather or not it is real or fake, as that has not yet been done, we shall not use as it is unknown if it official or not. →041744 22:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at my links above of Nintendo created sites that don't even show boxarts for games already published or remain un-updated. And I must have missed the memo when Gamespot and Go Nintendo stopped being reliable sources. Nintendo has never released their boxart with much fanfare. They just release it to media outlets and it gets out there gradually. The boxart is there on Nintendo's press site, which you need press credentials to access. Go Nintendo has them. Fake boxarts are usually quite low-res. The ones on Go Nintendo and GS are super hi-res. Click the links. I will find confirmation of SMG's boxart straight from a Nintendo site as soon as you do the same for any other Nintendo published Wii game. And it's just your opinion, you don't speak for all of Wikipedia, so don't say "we". Tehw1k1 23:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Since no one has offered a rebuttal, I'm reinstating the pic. Tehw1k1 04:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No need to boast... *cough*Yes! I told that was boxart was FAKE!!*cough*I told you!!*cough*cough* Excuse me...→041744 21:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Boxart

message: The source given for Australia's supposed release date of 2008 says nothing about it. Can you find a source for that date please, or change it to "TBA" or "TBA 2007". Cipher (Talk to the hand) 19:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please remember, Shigsy said; "You'll be able to play Mario Galaxy this year!" at the GDC press conference. --Pezzar 04:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

text: You've confused me. If he said "this year", then there's still no reason (or source) behind Australia supposedly getting the game next year. So, surely it needs changing to TBA 2007. Oh, and also, where is the source for PEGI's 7+ rating? They've not rated the game yet. So does this article have any more unsourced claims? It wouldn't surprise me. Cipher (Talk to the hand) 10:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia - 2008? 

message: Could somebody please archive this talk page? It's getting too long way too long!! --Pezzar 04:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually this page now is only about 50 KB, other pages wait till the page is around 65 KB or higher to archive, so lets just wait around for the people to discuss some more.→041744 07:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive this 

message: CVG has shown a leaked release date schedule. They seem to think it's reliable...
Should somebody edit it in now, or when/if it's confirmed at Leipzig this week?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.99.43.59 (talk) 15:06, August 21, 2007 (UTC) 
:It must now be official as it's also listed at nintendo-europe.com if you do a search for the game Gaunt 16:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  European release date? 

message: Why did someone shrink the new features part? i put it up as a list of new things to distinguish....its not ruining it because its talking about the game...cant you just leave it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhatter9max (talk • contribs) 04:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Features

message: I was bold, though you may want to fix my formatting. In Edge issue 180, in the Galaxy Quest feature, pages 46-51, released yesterday, they confirm Olimar's ship and "several other Nintendo in-jokes appear throughout.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.36.77 (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: The game isn't fricken released yet! How can there be a Reception scetion? Claycrow 01:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's about the pre-release demo. — Malcolm (talk) 01:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception?

message: The article still says Q4 2007 for the Japanese release date, but hasn't the date been confirmed recently? These two websites list it as November 1:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=24382
http://wii.ign.com/articles/817/817898p1.html
Please correct me if I am mistaken. (24.129.116.127 19:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Google スーパーマリオギャラクシー11月1日 Wikipedian06 23:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Release Date 

message: Is it true? Can it be? November 12th (also my birthday)? I heard somewhere that it was being released October 1st? Just a rumour then? [Tyler] (talk/contribs) 15:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: American Release Date

message: Today, Nintendo of Japan released a microsite with lots of new trailers, screenshots, and info about the game:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmgj/index.html
Here's what I've gathered:
* The game's theme is gravity (varying levels of it).
* The Prologue shows Bowser invading the Mushroom Kingdom via airship.
* Moves include running, jumping, spinning, the "star capture" and a variety of other moves
* Mario can ride a manta ray, hop on balls (as in Super Monkey Ball, shoot himself out of cannons (as in SM64), and glide through the air with a feather (see Deku Leaf in The Wind Waker). 
* There are at least four transformations beside the bee and boo suits.
* Some 2D sidescrolling action will return, at least in 2P mode.
Wikipedian06 07:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs to be updated 

message: Should we put this on the page and if so where? Trivia?
No, it's uneccesary, unimportant, and as far as I know, not reported by any reliable sources. DurinsBane87 04:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  So the fact that it's on the logo itself, the most reliable source of all, with the "UR MR GAY" letters actually highlighted with stars, on the OFFICIAL logo, means nothing? And the fact there's an article about Joystiq on Wikipedia, and Joystiq happens to have reported it, also means nothing? 89.240.141.37 22:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Added a vandal warning at the top of the page. People who keep putting it back in should be blocked from editing for 24-48 hours as a first warning, and longer for repeat offenses.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedian06 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UR MR GAY 

message: Is there any evidence to prove that it's actually Kamek in the opening video and not a generic Magikoopa? They look very similar, and seeing as how Kamek's been kind of not used lately (which sucks, Kamek pwns), it's very likely to just be a generic Maghikoopa. So unless there's any concrete proof that it's Kamek, then I think we shouldn't jump to conslusions. General Banzai 22:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamek? 

message: How about putting photos on the plot area. First we put this photo beside the Rosseta sentence, and then a prologue photo, which can all be found on jeux-farance.com??  --Mr.Mario 192 22:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: I feel it should be Platformer. I know the website calls it a 3D Action game, but that's a really general term. Almost every 3D game can be called a 3D Action game. 
64 and Sunshine both have Platformer as their genre and Galaxy is most definitely the same genre as them both.
:: Let's let the developers decide for themselves, k? Don't touch it. Wikipedian06 05:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Almost every single other website and practically everywhere says it's a platformer game. Show anyone a quick video of the game and they'll definitely say it's a platformer.    also Nintendo's official (ENGLISH LANGUAGE) Wii site lists it as an action platformer game AND even goes on in a little section to talk about how it's redefining platformers.  The only two sites that call it action are the one you hold on to dearly and the Nintendo.com site (which uses Action for platformer games, if you search games that are obviously platformers on their site the genre is given as Action) Knowitall 08:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Very well. Source changed to . Wikipedian06 08:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: http://wii.com/jp/articles/mario-galaxy/crv/vol2/page4.html
I'm currently translating it right now. Anyone who wants to help is welcome to pitch in
* This game will have the most transformations of any Mario game so far
* As expected, the Fire Flower will grant the ability to shoot fireballs.
* The Ice Flower counterpart will allow Mario to freeze water surfaces to form icy platforms.
* The Rainbow Star powerup will grant invincibility.
More to come later. Wikipedian06 07:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New info posted to official site 

message: First of all I don't know if G4 can be considered a good source, but on those little Feed Tickers at the bottom of the screen they were claiming that if you pre-order the game you get a free Mario "Gold Coin" although not actually gold of course. I was wondering if anyone else heard this? And if it's true should it be added to the article? 
8:30 am 10-11-07 User:Zabbethx-Zabbethx  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabbethx (talk • contribs) 12:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's true. Not really notable, IMHO. Plus, it's US-only. Wikipedian06 02:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold Coins 

message: Should we include that there's a huge connection to Super Smash Bros., which can be seen on Galaxy in his new move which looks like Mario Tornado??  --Mr.Mario 192 22:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No. Wikipedian06 01:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That looked pretty calm to me....anyway, it's not really important to mention. -Sukecchi 02:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That's not really the best way to go on a contested situation such as this. Two people have said no. Consensus rules, buku. -Sukecchi 02:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Doesn't stop the requested edit from being trivia and speculation, both of which arenot what Wikipedia should include. You might as well be saying that Mario's Spin Jump from Super Mario Sunshine is a reference to Mario's old Down B special (which makes more sense, but is still speculation). Disaster KirbyTalk 21:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

text: It is too trivial to go into the article.  Can't believe something as petty has this has generated so much discussion.  It's trivia, leave it, move on. Geoff B 00:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That was what the quotes were for. They can type it if they want, but it'll most likely get reverted. DurinsBane87 02:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SSB Connection