Talk:Lion (Australasian company)

message: A lot of the Victorian stuff is covered under Melbourne Beer War, and can probably be deleted. Could be useful adding some information about the companies and beers
3mta3 09:58, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: 2004-2007

message: Just removed incorrect information regarding international brands - Heineken, Amstel and Tiger are all DB products - refer http://www.db.co.nz/home/brands.html
While in New Zealand Heneken is a DB brand, in Australia it is a Lion beer.  202.27.252.25 (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brewing vs Distribution

message: :Image:Mac's shield.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. 
BetacommandBot (talk) 07:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mac's shield.gif

message: What's the deal with this merge?  The information on this page is much shorter than was at James Squire. Any reason not to list the full range of beers? This is exactly the kind of information an encyclopaedia should list; it's not spam, if that's what you're thinking. Stevage 00:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Squire merge 

message: 19 August 2009 210.8.218.110 (talk) (16,525 bytes) (Lion Nathan is not Japanese-controlled. While Kirin is a major shareholder, the company is publicly listed as at 18/8/09. The company has a wide range of assets, no longer makes Tooheys Maxim or Tiger) (undo) (Tag: references removed) 
Adressing your edit comment:
* "While Kirin is a major shareholder, the company is publicly listed as at 18/8/09." - True. However, as Kirin owns 40-something percent, and no other shareholder owns anything even vaguely close to that proportion, by Australian accounting standards and Australian company law, this means Lion Nathan IS "Japanese controlled". If you want more information, read Adelaide Steamship Company#The aftermath and the supporting references quoted there.
* There was a reliable supporting reference there. You removed it, and replaced it with your claim, and did NOT supply ANY supporting references for your point-of-view. Not a good idea.
** gtg - will finish this later. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit by IP, 19 Aug 2009 

message: I identified the following, (then I found List of breweries in Australia.)
If you can, please verify, correct and/or expand this following list.
* 1. Castlemaine Perkins (Brisbane) - XXXX
* 2. Swan  (Canning Vale, Perth) (WA, not Scotland) - Swan; Emu
* 3. Southwark  (Adelaide) - West End; Southwark
* 4. Malt Shovel  (Camperdown, Sydney) - James Squire; New Norcia Abbey Ale [Same place as Hahn??]
* 5. Boags  (Launceston, Tasmania) - Boags
* 6. McCashins  (Nelson, Sth Is) - McCashins
* 7. Waitemata  (Otahuhu, Auckland?) - Heinekin
* 8. Tui (Mangatainoka ?) - Tui
* 9. Monteith's  (Greymouth, Sth Is) - Monteith's
*10. Mainland  (Timaru, Sth Is)
*11. Speights  (Dunedin, Sth Is) - Speights
*12. Newmarket (Auckland) - Lion Red
*13. Hahn  (Camperdown, Sydney) - Hahn
*14. Tooheys  (Lidcombe, Sydney) - Tooheys
*15. Knappstein Enterprise Brewery (Clare SA) - Knappstein
Where are the following brewed?
* Gulf Lager
* Becks ("Brewed here in Australia" - http://www.becksbeer.com.au/ "Bier Facts")
* Steinlager
http://www.beermaster.co.nz/Links.aspx mentions:
*http://www.lion-nathan.co.nz
*http://www.speights.co.nz
*http://www.guinnessnz.co.nz
*http://www.macs.co.nz
*http://www.lionred.co.nz
*http://www.steinlager.com
*http://www.stellaartois.com
Pdfpdf (talk) 17:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many breweries, what are they called, where are they, and what do they brew?

message: I am Lion’s External Relations Director and would like to advise of some amendments required to your description of Lion, as per the below:
1)	Lion is owned by Kirin, which is listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Kirin is not owned by Mitsubishi. Therefore Lion is not owned by Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi has a very small shareholding in Kirin (I believe only 1-2%) only. 
2)	Your initial description of Lion suggests we are only an alcohol company. This is false. Lion is a beverage and food company that operates in Australia and New Zealand and produces and markets a range of beer, wine, cider, RTDs, spirits, plain and flavoured milks, yogurts, cheese, juice and soy products.
3)	Your employee numbers are also inaccurate and should be ‘The Company employs over 7,000 people’
4)	The Industry we operate in should be food and beverage / alcohol, not just alcohol
5)	Under ‘founded’ there should be a reference that we became Lion in 2011
6)	The products section should be amended to include all our product categories: beer, wine, cider, RTDs, spirits, plain and flavoured milks, yogurts, cheese, juice and soy products.
7)	Owner should be Kirin Holdings
8)	The history section is incomplete, and doesn’t reference the subsequent merger of Lion Nathan and National Foods in 2009 as ‘Lion Nathan National Foods’ and the renaming to ‘Lion’ in 2011, as mentioned earlier on the page
9)	The next section on Lion Nathan National Foods is no longer accurate – the name no longer exists. The head office information in there is also confused – our Corporate and Lion Beer, Spirits & Wine Australia head office is  York St Sydney, our Lion Dairy & Drinks business is headquartered out of Melbourne and our Lion Beer, Spirits & Wine New Zealand business is headquartered out of Auckland. We have an additional office at Sydney Olympic Park.
10)	The Lion Nathan National Foods Ltd profile box should be deleted as it is superseded by the Lion one.
11)	Breweries – our Swan brewery has closed. Our SA Brewery is called ‘West End Brewery’ not Southwark. You have Little Creatures listed as a brewery in Sydney, when it is based in WA (which you have in brackets). We have another Little Creatures Brewery in Geelong. There is no Hahn Brewery in Camperdown, you have this confused with the Malt Shovel Brewery in Camperdown, which is accurate. We also have the Emerson’s Brewery in Dunedin New Zealand. 
12)	There are extensive issues with the beer and wine sections where you list a lot of products no longer produced as well as wine assets long divested. Can I suggest you include a link to the Lion website for information on Lion brands, as the changes required would include a complete overhaul: http://lionco.com/brands/ 
15)	We also have an extensive dairy and drinks business that is not referenced here at all. From a site/production perspective this includes; a dairy foods site in Wetherill Park NSW; a milk site in Penrith NSW; two juice sites in Leeton and Smithfield NSW; a cheese cut and wrap site in Allansford VIC; a milk site in Chelsea Heights VIC; a yogurt site in Morwell VIC; a Vitasoy soy site in Wodonga VIC; a milk site in Crestmead QLD and another in Malanda QLD; a milk site in Salisbury SA; a specialty cheese site in Burnie TAS; a milk site in Lenah Valley TAS; our King Island cheese site on King Island TAS; a milk and juice site in Bentley WA; a milk and cheese site in Canberra ACT; and a dairy foods site in Palmerston North NZ. 
If you need further information please email me on leela.sutton@lionco.com
Cheers
Leela
203.174.133.198 (talk) 04:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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message: Having just done a fairly major cleanup of the company history, holdings and names (hopefully all sorted now), I have no time nor inclination to look at that long list of breweries and beers. The problem with lists of brands is that they do change and become out of date quite quickly, so I question the wisdom of having them there in the first place. If there is someone out there willing to do it, I would suggest just listing a few examples under each heading, with As of templates, saying that [whatever list] includes the following brands. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup of beers and breweries needed