Talk:Fiber to the x

message: I am moving fibre to the cabinet to the fibre to the node line to align with the article it refers to (is redirected to fibre to the node)
--Cgbraschi 15:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fibre to the cabinet 

message: I added a diagram showing the differences between FTTN, FTTC, FTTB, and FTTH.  If and when we do the merge, I offer to remove FTTC from the diagram in such a way that it still looks "nice".  This should not be too difficult to do.  Riick 20:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging the diagram 

message: I would like to remove the merge tags that have to do with this talk section's proposal (of merging the FTTC meaning into that of FTTN).  Partly this is to reduce confusion in light of the alternate merge proposal now in existence (see talk:fiber to the x#Larger merger).   Also it is because there has not been much recent discussion of this topic. Any objections?    Riick 19:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove merge tags 

message: The above heading was inserted by Riick (talk) 19:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, thats what I came to this page to look for --94.192.245.121 (talk) 19:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fiber to the x refers to a topology, not to the transmission technology. The speeds depend on many things like fiber type, the devices at the edges and so on. Discussing these in detail is beyond he scope of this article. --Kgfleischmann (talk) 05:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Speed does not limited by fibre type, not in the access network, but it does depend on network architecture and the equipment you hang on the ends of the link.  I think it would be worth adding a sentence or two here, but we should point users to passive optical network for more details.  OK, so that's another article that needs work (sigh). Opticalgirl (talk) 12:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, he is right. There are various types of fiber. For an added twist to this whole thing, GPON can be used the FTTC as well. Keeping the article as just being about topology is best 99.55.70.227 (talk) 17:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for performance data 

message: Additional action-packed discussion exists on pages previously merged into this one. The following links are provided for convenience of historical edification:
* Fiber to the premises  merged 6-2008  discussion
* Fiber to the Telecom Enclosure merged 5-2008 removed 8-2009 discussion
* Fiber in the loop merged 1-2008 removed 8-2009 discussion
* Fiber to the node merged 1-2008 discussion
* Fiber to the curb merged 1-2008 discussion
* FTTx merged 3-2006 discussion
- Riick (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to additional discussion 

message: There may be a contradiction in the article. The article implies that all of the following are true:
* FTTx is always limited to the local loop.
* Fiber to the Telecommunications Enclosure is a type of FTTx.
* Fiber to the Telecommunications Enclosure is a form of on-premises wiring.
But it is not possible logically for all three to be true because it would mean that on-premises wiring is necessarily in the local loop. So which of those three "facts" is incorrect? (Or how they can all be true simultaneously?) So far my own research has revealed little.
Riick (talk) 20:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article at present does a terrible job of factoring the various architectures, and the terminology itself is largely obsolete as of 2009 and G.hn considerations.  Above see reasons to move service issues to gigabit broadband as the primary article, deprecate the FTTx terminology entirely as meaningless to any real world decision (making it essentially a redirect to gigabit WAN or to gigabit broadband), and carefully explaining issues like BPL in on-premises wiring.  Terms like "local loop" probably must be avoided except where you mean PSTN and include power provisioning as PSTN does.  This whole thing is a mess.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.103.86 (talk) 23:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I hope my addition has clarified this.  FTTE is not an access network architecture, it's structured wiring used in LANs.  If anyone wants to add info about FTTE, or FTTD (D=desk), then it belongs under structured wiring. Opticalgirl (talk) 12:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local loop and Fiber to the Telecommunications Enclosure 

message: The link at the bottom to "Fiber to the home" is a self referential redirect. Someone either needs to make a fibre to the home article or add a section for it in this article 58.105.220.149 (talk) 06:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the link for now. Mindmatrix 15:43, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fibre to the home 

message: This page used to be quite clear, but now it is full of unsourced statements, written in an unencyclopedic style, like "Many misinformed customers, for instance, pay for expensive hubs or switches in their homes that do nothing to network all AC powered devices... An optimal deployment, by contrast, would have paid for everything with the power savings and required no more than one unified device near the transformer." Does anyone object if I remove all these?
--Ipj20 (talk) 09:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely not, go for it.  Nelson50T 21:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The rest of the article is pretty bad, too. I just tagged it with , so hopefully some people will be spurred into helping a little. (I would, but it's 2 AM and you don't want me rewriting articles when I need sleep.)  — SheeEttin {T/C} 06:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this article could do with a cleanup, and am willing to have a go.  Some of the facts in here are wrong, some are in the wrong place - it's an article about FTTx not BPL.  Fibre is becoming a mainstream topic these days, with governments putting their money behind it in some cases, so the page should better reflect why they did that.  I'm new to wikipaedia, so tried out a simple edit to start with by adding a ref for the definitions of FTTx.  I have plenty more references to add, but would also want to restructure the article a bit.  Any objections? Opticalgirl (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

text:  This page smacks of propaganda of companies who do not wish to roll out FTTH.. Seriously this needs some cleanup of nonsense.. Half the crap in here is pure tripe that should be removed. It can be compared to FTTH systems all over the world and none of them have half the garbage spewed in this article of how they work. Take a stab at it and fix it this is crazy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.11.153.178 (talk) 02:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

text:  @User:Opticalgirl, you did a great job transforming one heap of G.hn promotion to another. Please be aware, what Wikipedia is not and consider reading Wikipedia:NOTADVOCATE. This article is worth to be deleted --Kgfleischmann (talk) 20:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hold your horses, I haven't really started yet... all I've done so far is tidy up duplicate information (even though it is clearly biased!).  I didn't want to welly in too hard, as I'm new around here, and wanted to make sure I got the hang of how wikipaedia works.  Also, there's a lot to say about FTTH so wanted to give it some thought and do it right - need a bit longer. Opticalgirl (talk) 10:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: O.K. My horses are back in the stable! --Kgfleischmann (talk) 16:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced statements 

message: I think OLT (optical line termination ) should not redirect here, but should rather have it's own stub page. Nothing in this article discusses OLT directly, despite a number of pages linking here with OLT.
I'm trying to work out what it is (from technical perspective) and what it does, and this page does not help with that! Dkp (talk) 02:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Optical Line Termination 

message: I ran across Next-generation access which seems a European and/or British term for roughly the same thing, so perhaps that should also merge. I hate "next-generation" in any title because it is guaranteed to be dated at some point when the generation after that comes along. I also noted that Optical Distribution Network and Optical distribution network redirect to ODN which is a disambig page, which includes a link on it back to itself. That does not seem right. W Nowicki (talk) 23:23, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Next Generation Access (NGA) is a term used by BT (British Telecom) in the UK to describe the infrastructure for delivering faster (>25Mb/s) broadband access (also called "Superfast Broadband" - another tag that will rapidly loose currency; I look forward to ultrahypermegafast broadband). NGA is a performance intention / aspiration, and does not strictly imply a particular implementation technology, although it will in fact be delivered by FTTX technology in most cases. Given this specific regional usage, I do not think merging is appropriate (a link to FTTX would be more appropriate). FredV (talk) 10:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yet more merges 

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