Talk:Naperville, Illinois

message: With phrases like "globally reknown schools", "enormous growth of high-tech companies", and "the Riverwalk is known as Naperville's 'Crown Jewel' according to the Naperville Riverwalk Foundation", parts of the article seems a little booster-ish. I've tried to tune-down the rhetoric.Wkharrisjr (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Booster-ish?

message: How come you deleted my post?  I am putting factual information which I compiled as stats as well as listing some of the prominent subdivisionsMikemccurry (talk) 21:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there's some rather blatent problems with WP:OR, WP:RS and WP:COI. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 21:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerning Naperville Content Deleted

message: Do you think it's a little bland to post a picture of city hall in the wintertime as the first picture that people view when they read the article? What about if there was a picture of downtown Naperville in the summer? It will feature Naperville as the bustling, lively city with people on the streets shopping, that it is. I can definitely take pictures and email them to someone for review? Just my thoughts on it. Svengoolie (talk) 03:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide a suitable pic that meets inclusion criteria (and looks nice), by all means be WP:BOLD and add it. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 06:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   Concerning the picture on the top of the page 

message: Contrary to the reversion, it technically is west southwest from what is usually considered to be the center of Chicago.  But, agreeing with the reversion, I think that simply "west" is a better way to say it. North8000 (talk) 00:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never seen a citation that categorizes west-by-southwest suburbs of Chicago as a distinct category. if they do exist, they are rare. Suburbs along the I-88 corridor are typically refereed to as West or Far-West suburbs. Google search for 'west suburbs of Chicago'. As for directionality, downtown Naperville is directly west of the Chicago neighborhoods of Hide Park and Englewood. But we are in agreement over the text so.... Dkriegls (talk) 01:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, simply "west" is the more common and thus the best way to say it.  Even though the  north-south center of Naperville is approx 75th street (75 blocks south of the "center" of Chicago)  North8000 (talk) 11:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: West 75th in Naperville is directly west of east 75th in the South Shore neighborhood of Chicago. Though, north-south center's are not typically used by map makers to determine directionality of large geographic locations like cities. Imagine someone claiming Wisconsin was north-west of Illinois because of the position of their East-West axis. I also find it curious that you compare Naperville's north-south center to Chicago's downtown. Chicago's north-south center is 37th street, roughly 20 blocks north of downtown Naperville. Anyways, I think we are violating Talk page guidlines now since we are in agreement about the text. Cheers and good chatting with ya :)  Dkriegls (talk) 19:39, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. North8000 (talk) 11:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direction from Chicago 

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: Moved content about Dexter Graves and his memorial at Graceland Cemetery in Chicago to there; his only connection to this article was traveling on same ship to Chicago. Also moved reference to Spinner 2012 book about train accident to section "Further reading" - it is self-published and thus is not a Reliable Source.Parkwells (talk) 18:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Good move on Graves.  But I think it would be better to leave Spinner as a source.  The wiki rule is about presence of the text, there's no rule about presence of the source. North8000 (talk) 20:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Are you trying to say that self-published books are reliable sources, or that any old source will do if it verifies the fact? John from Idegon (talk) 03:35, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No. I'm saying that the rule is that in order for the text to remain (if challenged) it must be supported by a WP:RS.    A source that is not a wp:rs (such as a self-published book) can not be used to fulfill that requirement.     There is no rule that a source that is not a wp:rs  can't be present in an article.  It can be present, it just doesn't /won't fulfill the sourcing requirement if the text is challenged.  North8000 (talk) 11:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved inappropriate content

message: As of a January 7th revision to this article there has been a featured flag next to the seal in the Infobox. In the manner that it is presented and without any context this flag is seeming the official flag of the City of Naperville. However this flag is not the official flag and is a community accepted design. Of the many reasons why this community flag was created one was the the official design is Copyrighted by the City of Naperville. https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-new-naperville-flag-st-1111-20161111-story.html
What should happen to the community flag? Should it have context or should it be replaced or removed? Koalafied1 (talk) 22:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the flag from the article, per the source cited.  If it's not the official flag, it shouldn't be in the infobox. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:07, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag Design  

message: At present a large portion of the demographic section is uncited. With some searching into prior versions I was able to find the citations to a now nonexistent part of the US census bureau website from 2006. faced with the option to add in citations and present old information or to entirely update the section; I have chosen to update the section. This is being posted since it will be a reasonably significant change. When the information from the 2020 census is available it will be reworked again
Koalafied1 (talk) 02:52, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: within the recently edited demographic section there are three main references 26, 28 and 29 the census bureau, CMAP and a website processing census data. The article prior to my edits took only from the census bureau but was able to extract more data than i was able from similar parts of the bureau website. The CMAP data has the potential to fill in the missing parts from the more recent census information however it would decrease the amount of data coming from the census bureau. presently the updated data takes from source 29 which is a processor of census data. the census bureau is typically the Gold Standard when it comes to demographic data in the US. Should we move away from the bureau in this article to provide a more detailed view of the community? Is it preferred to have the greatest available data come from a first hand source as opposed to a second hand source? Koalafied1 (talk) 04:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I reverted several of your edits. A consensus of editors have agreed that the US Census should be the primary source of demographic data, per WP:USCITIES. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:28, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics Overhaul