Talk:Park Avenue

message: One of these days, I'm going to look up the actual history. But until then, a few things I know for sure:
*The tunnel is not called the "Park Avenue Viaduct". A viaduct is elevated.
*There were once two shorter tunnels, and later the full tunnel was built. I don't know if the full tunnel ever included the part south of Grand Central.
A lot of this should probably be in New York and Harlem Railroad rather than here anyway. --SPUI (talk) 16:06, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you are right, the tunnel from Grand Central to 96th Street is known as Park Avenue Tunnel (not viaduct). I think there was a deep tunnel dug between 92nd Street and 94th Street built in 1836-1837?. Dont have any sources yet. RustyCale 11:30, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I remember reading about that too - one of the maps at http://memory.loc.gov/ should do the trick. I've greatly expanded Harlem Railroad - I think we should have general stuff here (like the change to tunnel, etc) and put detailed info in that article. --SPUI (talk) 17:25, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Are you sure that's not referring to the elevated part north of the tunnel? --SPUI (talk) 02:21, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: It looks like the elevated structure around Grand Central is also called that - . --SPUI (talk) 02:22, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: added a note that Park Avenue begins at 32nd Street, the lower part is known as Park Avenue South, maybe it should have its own article. If I find any information I will add a note when the railroads between 42nd and 56th Street were sunked. RustyCale 13:39, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening heading 

message: Because on Park Ave., the end (direction passing through the Manhattan Bridge Entrance, Manhattan Side) is blocked by several police vehicles and a sign stating that you need an authorized vehicle. Someone told me it takes you to the City Hall. Am I thinking of the wrong street? If so, then which street is it? I never knew why it got blocked. --AOL Alex 21:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tunnel Blocked by Police.. isn't this the avenue with it? 

message: Why does Fourth Avenue redirect to this article?  Fourth Avenue still exists, between 14th Street and Cooper Square.  Viciouslies (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth Avenue

message: moved per primary topic. --rgpk (comment) 22:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: According to the Wikipedia articles on the Third Avenue and the Bowery, the Third Avenue El ran over the Bowery and Third Avenue and, after the Third Avenue El was torn down there was a movement to rename Third Avenue throughout Manhattan the Bowery. Furthermore, Wikipedia's article on Lafayette St states that it becomes Fourth Avenue. This would lead me to believe that the Bowery, in fact, becomes Third Avenue and that it is Lafayette St that becomes Fourth Avenue/Park Avenue S/Park Avenue. Are there any cites to support one assertion or the other? The claim in the article does not currently appear cited. 24.213.167.105 (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't answer your citation question but the Bowery splits into the two sides of Cooper Square, one side of which merges with Lafayette to become Fourth Avenue, while the other side continues into Third Avenue. Technically, the Bowery doesn't actually become either of 4th or 3rd Avenues because it doesn't touch either avenue. --regentspark (comment) 20:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comment. I think the sentence in the article, "The road that becomes Park Avenue originates as the Bowery" should be restated, per your comment and the Wiki articles I mentioned, as it's currently vague. This page states that Lafayette St becomes Fourth Avenue, while Forgotten NY here states that traffic from Lafayette St feeds into Cooper Square before it becomes the Bowery. In a short search, I haven't found anything that mentions the Bowery becoming either Fourth or Third Avenue, besides the Wikipedia articles here. 24.213.167.105 (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. I assume the Bowery ran all the way to 4th Avenue before Cooper Square came into being. Lafayette came later, so I'd say that, historically, the Bowery became 4th Ave rather than Lafayette becoming 4th Ave. Now, of course, neither do.  will know what the historically correct thing is. --regentspark (comment) 23:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

text: I've just been looking at the map of the Commisioners' Plan of 1811 , which shows what was planned, and it's pretty much as I described above in the 1827 map.  Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Avenue or Lafayette St Becomes the Bowery? 

message: *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Justice_(TV_series)
*The main character is known as the "Park Avenue kid".
71.80.203.159 (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Popular Culture