Talk:Heather Stilwell

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message: When Stilwell and fellow Trustee Pickering were sued personally by a teacher under a collective agreement to ensure a harassment free workplace, Stilwell was quoted as saying: "I reserved the right to say that homosexual behavior is wrong". As such, it is fair comment to say that she is indeed "anti-gay".
As for me, I reserve the right to say that Mrs Stilwell appears to be a militant Christian who is intolerant of others and who will stop at nothing to promote her own personal beliefs. Let look at the facts: 
1) she has undertaken an active role in a myriad of organizations whose main purpose is to oppose EQUAL rights for gay and lesbian individuals. One such organization is Campaign Life Coalition whose position reads: "To have become a homosexual is to have acquired a moral disorder. To indulge in homosexual activity is to pervert human sexuality. So-called sexual orientation should not be placed in the Canada Human Rights Act; homosexuals should be permitted neither in the army nor in the clergy; homosexual unions' must not be recognized as 'marriages'; 
2) after removing a child from a gay teacher's classroom, she was sued personally and her school board's actions were found to be guilty under the BC Human Rights Act; 
3) she has been quoted as saying "All law imposes morality. I believe I have just as much rights as the pro-abortionists to impose my morality on society"; 
4) she fought for and ended up establishing a 'traditional school' at a time when the school district was suffering from significant funding cutbacks for other publically funded programmes in the district; 
5) she opposed the teaching of safe sex practices to students in the district, even though they suffer from a high level of teen pregnancy; 
6) she opposed library books dealing with other religions and cultures; 
7)she opposed learning materials designed to teach tolerance via a reflection of the diversity present in today's society; 
8) after the Supreme Court of Canada disallowed the School Board a religious basis for opposing these books, Mrs Stilwell opposed them by applying such specious rigorous standards that the Bible itself would not have been able to pass them; 
9) she prevented members of a legally constituted provinicial political party from speaking at an all-candidates meeting.
Stilwell has a right to speak her opinion on all these matters, but she seems to have made a career out of trying to silence all those who don't share her philosophy. That is real intolerance.--BillC38 08:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: A google search for "Heather Stilwell" Surrey produces 290 hits.
A google search for "heather stilwell" Surrey homophobia OR homophobe OR homophobic OR anti-gay OR intolerant OR intolerance produces 65 hits.
--BillC38 05:30, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: On a visit to Mrs. Stilwell, she shared with me the experience she and others had in attaining the founding of this school.  They prevailed upon the school board to establish one, and once it was established, so many parents applied to have their children admitted that the school could not accommodate them, indicating a pent-up demand that was not being met by the school board's own preferred curricular and social design for schools. It is ironic that now these parents' wishes are again being defied by the imposition of books with content disagreeable to the parents with children.  I happen to believe that schools should respect the beliefs of the parents whose children are educated there, not that of social activists whose children attend other schools.
GBC 00:33, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: The Surrey School Board is responsible for educating over 60,000 students. In the mid-1990's the BC education system suffered significant funding cutbacks. There was solid opposition to the establishment of a traditional school by the majority of parents, teachers and the Surrey Teacher's Association--the district could not afford the establishment of a traditional school without cutting funding for other necessary programmes. In spite of this, Stilwell pushed for the establishement of such a school to serve less than 1% of the parents in the district. In the words of Trustee Jim Chisholm, "there's a strong contingent of parents who would like to take over the entire school system", the traditional school was "rammed through" at a cost of $350,000.
--BillC38 06:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: Perhaps we should also add categories to entries for people and parties that are pushing homosexual rights:  'Religious liberties opposition'.
There are those who oppose "LGBT" rights out of anger and hatred, like the Nazis.  (They didn't like anyone if they weren't purely of the 'master race', and even those that were could not embrace "perversions" like communism, liberty, swing music, etc.)
Then there are those who oppose "LGBT" rights not because they think the individuals are unworthy of them, but because they recognize inherent implausibilities, incapabilities and unhealthiness.  Homosexual, bisexual and other immoral sexual behaviours are unhealthy because they are often polygamous, and the "rights" sought by those promoting such "LGBT" are not even realistic.  Same-sex "marriage" is a sham that is sought only for its symbolism, not because it will actually be fruitful for society.
"LGBT" "opponents" who, like Heather, Ed Vanwoudenberg, myself and other CHP candidates, do not hate homosexuals, bisexuals (and those who practice other immoral sexual behaviours) as people. If we truly obey God and seek to be like Jesus Christ, we do not hate homosexuals, and I certainly do not. I have met three or four homosexuals, and I feel no revulsion or hatred. Rather, my heart aches in agony for them. I yearn for them to know true happiness in Christ, not the counterfeit happiness they have. I oppose "LGBT" "rights" because it will do nothing but prolong their ultimate agony, an agony I desire them to not have to endure.
Therefore, please recognize that while there are "LGBT" opponents who do have revulsion and hatred for homosexuals, bisexuals and such, the people who do have such hatred are ignorant of the Great Commandment.
I recommend a review as to whether it is appropriate to hastily and unqualifiably apply, to people who subscribe to a faith that calls upon them to practice that Great Commandment, the label that is assumed to mean a feeling of personal hatred: "LGBT" opposition?!
GBC 06:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, well, you see, claiming that "homosexuals" are in need of redemption in the first place is what earns that woman a place in that category -- well, to be precise, the fact that she actively works to deny people rights does. You know, you may have your opinon, and she may have hers - but to claim that this opinion is the only one that is "right" is something that you really should do only outside of Wikipedia. Because here, you know, we have NPOV, and that really does not go well with bible-thumping. Besides, what is your point? You rant here for pages that she indeed opposes LGBT rights - even the most basic one, human dignity - and then you whine if she is put into the appropriate category? That does not make a whole lot of sense, to put it mildly. -- AlexR 07:36, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no dignity in being clinically depressed. People who suffered clinical depression were cured of that depression when they were treated for their addiction to homosexual behaviour. I see no dignity in being physically injured in the violence that characteristically found when homosexuals exploit someone like Jessie Dirkhiser, a young boy who was assaulted, repeatedly raped and died from the abuse of two homosexual men. Homosexuals are, like all other people, in need of redemption; there is not a human being born who does not need it, but sadly, those who refuse to give up the justification of their sins miss out on redemption. Why is it regarded as "hatred" to want to share, with homosexuals, the glories of Heaven? I regard it as hatred by people like Fred Phelps who would willingly let homosexuals go to the eternal agony of separation from God. Hate sends to Hell, Love invites to Heaven. GBC 23:02, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that most LGBT people are not depressed, and would be even less if they would not suffer from the "attention" of the like of Ms. Stilwell. And I sincerely doubt that the undeniably horrible fate of Jessie Dirkhiser was somehow more horrible than that of children assaulted, raped and killed by heterosexual people - because, you know, that happens, too. As for the need of redemption, two things: a) not everybody believes in eternal sin and the idea that "every human needs redemption" in the first place, and b) should it indeed be needed at all, there is no reason to assume that LGBT people (which is, BTW, not quite the same as "homosexual people") need it any more than non-LGBT people. Also, your "invitation to heaven" comes at gunpoint; and I really don't see why anybody should feel particularly invited by people who denying them the right to be as God made them. That is not an invitation to heaven, that is a ticket to hell; and the difference between the likes of Ms. Stillwell and Fred Phelps is just a gradual one, but not a fundamental one. -- AlexR 00:20, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Even in countries with widespread acceptance of homosexuality, like the Netherlands, or cities like San Francisco, the rate of clinical depression among them is no lower. If there's such widespread acceptance, why are they still depressed... unless it is inherent in the unnatural and destructive nature of the behaviour?    As to Jessie Dirkhiser, only one major newspaper mentioned his case, while Matthew Shepard received massive coverage; a bias - the homosexuals who assaulted (to a fatal degree) Jessie for their own gratification aren't villains to the mass media, but the men who assaulted Matthew are?  I think the assaulters of both boys are criminals! Also, God doesn't hold a gun to anyone's head to accept Christ - God gave us free choice, and if we choose to be self-willed, doing what we want, then we can pay the price for our sins.  "The wages of sin is death", so therefore, all of us are sentenced to death for being unholy. The good news is that Christ dies for us so those who accept Christ don't have to die for their sins. If homosexuals don't want to give their lives to Christ, God is perfectly willing to let them die themselves to pay for their sins. Sure, that is a religious belief, but unlike every other faith, for which no savior is provided, Christianity does have a savior to rescue us from condemnation. I don't believe Islam provides a savior, although you can go to "paradise" (with 70 virgins just for you) if you kill a bunch of people and die in that act; Judaism, like Christianity, seeks a savior, but does not yet realize the savior has already come. Christianity is also the fastest growing faith in the world, even though it is commonly believed that Islam is growing faster. GBC 01:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I refuse to get involved in this discussion, but as a Dutchman, I'm very curious as to what you are basing your statement on that "even in countries with widespread acceptance of homosexuality, like the Netherlands... the rate of clinical depression among them is no lower." What are your references? Aecis 09:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
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Stilwell says she is a strong supporter of parents' rights, that is to say, the 'rights' of a minority of parents with conservative views, who have no respect for the equality provisions found in section 15 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Why do group rights and national rights usurp individual rights? I believe that all Stilwell is seeking is the respect of those parents' rights. And since the writer of that section refers to those conservative parents as a minority, then Stilwell is defending minority rights, something that Liberal-minded groups have been using the charter for since 1982. Bravo to Stilwell for defending a minority's rights.
Why should those conservative parents' be denied their rights? They are a minority, as the writer of the paragraph said, so shouldn't they have their minority rights protected by the Charter?
Besides, this is what section 15 says:  Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
Equal protection and equal benefit of the law! If conservative-viewed parents want their children excluded from teachings that violate the conscienscious beliefs, or religious beliefs as the case may be, then they are entitled to that protection and benefit.
GBC 05:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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