Talk:Sporting CP

message: It seems to me that a user is constantly updating this area to something that has no interest to the section, like about a episode about a banner, if we are going to write about every single time a football clube put a banner we gonna need the whole internet, so i dont see the interest of this particular episode. I do agree thoug that the 1996 final of portuguese cup was a key moment in the rivalary between sporting and benfica, since was the first time and only time a fan died consequence of the rivalary, being quoted as the darkest day of portuguese football. The other episodes seem to me a way of enabling the latter episode and justify it even thoug it happended 20 years after and which the severity of it is banal.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OctopusFactCheck (talk • contribs) 15:11, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You lost me a bit here, I read through the rivalry section and don't really see much wrong other than some poorly written English. Porto vs Sporting rivalry could certainly do with being expanded upon. Govvy (talk) 11:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

text: Firstly, Wikipedia is not a forum, and definetely not Reddit. Secondly, both Porto and Sporting are involved in judicial processes for corruption, especially the latter – Cashball. Lastly, just stop creating new accounts. SLBedit (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivalary  

message: has been adding non-notable honours such as the Small World Cup and the Iberian Cup, calling them European competitions and without adding sources. The UEFA Intertoto Cup might be considered a notable honour, but it's unsourced; even its article doesn't say Sporting won it. SLBedit (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-notable honours 

message: This short explanation was reverted without a valid reason by a SL Benfica advocate. I would ask the administrators to pay attention to the multiple abuses by this user, who has absurd prejudices towards Portuguese football and is against anything that is not in the interests of his SL Benfica.  A. Landmesser (talk) 08:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You shouldn't have added off-topic advocacy to the Crest and shirt section. SLBedit (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourced content reverted

message: "The innacuracy must be explained according to consensus". There never was consensus about that. SLBedit (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't make the consensus alone. Many users have said it to you. Your actions are a Blatant Conflict of interest (COI) editing: even the source you insist to add is about a degrading episode in the history of Sporting CP. Always the same modus operandi that people are starting to notice but nobody cares. Others left Wikipedia for good because of editors like you. The most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue is to properly explain the issues with the use of "Sporting Lisbon" without erasing it from the lead. A. Landmesser (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Will you stop harrassing me and stop copy-pasting the same aspersions? SLBedit (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Boy, I've better things to this week at Estádio de Alvalade. Have a nice day. A. Landmesser (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you implying that you work for Sporting Lisbon? I do not care about your personal life, but if you are a paid editor, you must tell Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure SLBedit (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit war started by User:A. Landmesser

message: You need a new section to discuss this to start afresh. Don't turn it into personal attacks or refer to each other's motives. There are currently cited references to support both points of view. 
What's wrong with this compromise: and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries? I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and WP:NOTCENSORED. Local Variable (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: "I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and WP:NOTCENSORED" That's the whole point. It's only "offensive" to some Sporting Lisbon fans. SLBedit (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So you don't object to the compromise? @A. Landmesser, what's wrong with the above suggestion? I agree there's controversy around the name, but the way you expressed it looked like the article was opinionated rather than objective. Wikipedia does not take opinions on these issues, it summarises what is in reliable sources. So what exactly is wrong with the above suggestion, which reflects that the name is still used (Google "Sporting Lisbon" and look at the news articles), even if it's not ubiquitous. Local Variable (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries is fine. However, that won't please users/IP addresses that have been trying to remove "Sporting Lisbon" for years. SLBedit (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we'll wait and see what they say about it, rather than presume their opinion on the topic. None of the above discussion has been at all productive with no attempt to compromise. Local Variable (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only presumed because I know who/what I'm dealing with. It's just sad that they don't accept that there are people in the world that say "Sporting Lisbon". This whole edit warring could be avoided if they hadn't a limited view of their own club. This reminds of the "Inter Milan" story on Wikipedia, where Inter Milan fans tried to change it, without success, to "Internazionale". SLBedit (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

text: That will likely go in, but cool your jets: fanboys and people with axes to grind do similar edits, all over Wikipedia, thousands a day.  There is no practical way for the words "Sporting Lisbon" to be engraved in granite in this article, untouchable for all time to come.  If vandalism happens, it will be reverted.  It just doesn't have to be the case that you, personally, need to be the sole guardian of the lead's purity.   Ravenswing      19:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia has been recklessly vandalized by Lisboa e Benfica fan boy since years ago and you call vandals to those who try to fix this disgusting behavior in the website. Sporting Clube de Portugal is informally known as Sporting Lisbon because there isn’t such a thing as Sporting Lisbon (Portuguese sports club), Minneapolis Timberwolves (NBA team), Boston Revolution (MLS team) or Holland (sovereign state or national football team). The article about Netherlands use the term “informally” as well and people and the media around the world still employ the name Holland when it should be Netherlands. Open your eyes! SportingPortugaledit (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sporting Lisbon 

message: Sporting CP supporters are again pushing their own league title count. Officially, the club has 20 league titles. I will revert ALL those edits per WP:ADVOCACY and WP:UNSOURCED. SLBedit (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of league titles