Talk:Outback

message: There has obviously been some disagreement over the meaning of "bush" compared to "outback". I grew up outside the capital cities (specifically Morisset), and to me the two words have a distinct meaning. The bush was the stuff outside my front door, and similar environments (mainly eucalyptus forest). The outback, to me, is the remote, arid interior -- especially the desert but perhaps also the dry plains. -- Tim Starling 03:06, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay... So should both be described in the same article, or would it be better to have separate articles for each? At the moment, everything just redirects here, which gives the impression that they are the same thing. -- Oliver P. 03:09, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO "bush" is wiktionary material. It's an ill-defined, colloquial word, with no special significance (at least not to me). "Outback" is poorly defined as well, but it has a great deal of cultural significance. Perhaps "bush" is significant to some Australians, but to me it doesn't deserve an article. -- Tim Starling 13:49, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

text: From what I've grown up with Bush is used in preferrance to Outback Gnangarra 16:44, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bush v outback

message: Back o'Burke, or Back o'Bourke? I always thought it was the latter, referring to Bourke, New South Wales. The article induicates otherwise... ???? Graham 04:01, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps it refers to Robert O'Hara Burke of Burke and Wills fame? I'd say you're right though: it would seem to make sense if it were Bourke, the article for which does lay claim to the phrase. I'm not sure, but.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:41, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Back of where?

message: Can anybody help? Just moved the top line to a new Outback (disambiguation)
article, but have forgotten how to work the articles/etc to get outback disambig
as the first ref, with outback article as part of it.  I once tried something
with an obscure Tasmanian mountain, and found I was doing no-no things! SatuSuro 13:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've fixed what you were trying to do. Wikipedia:Disambiguation should help you out next time. --cj | talk 13:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help! 

message: I made a small adjustment to the wording on the tourism section.  There appears to be potential for this be expanded into a more detailed section. With statistics I think can think of a couple of deaths in WA inside the last 12months, also one recent amazing rescue of an English gentleman near Broome.  Gnangarra 00:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deaths Focus 

message: Also shouldn't the Royal Flying Doctor Service get at least a mention within this article Gnangarra 00:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFDS 

message: Perhaps there's no real answer, but I wonder where the word "outback" comes from, when it dates from. I've always thought that it was a deadpan joke reference to a person's back yard, or garden, the humour coming from the fact that the real outback is incomparably vaster than anyone's back garden. In the kind of terraced houses my parents grew up in, it's common to talk about the small garden area around the back - with just enough space for a washing line and a shed - as being "out back". Lupine Proletariat 15:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outback 

message: I took this para out of the Population section. Firstly, it is very vague, it doesn't mention the name or dates of these supposed programs. Secondly, it seems to be reinforcing the myth that most aboriginal australians traditionally lived in the outback. They didn't, 90% lived in coastal regions.
:There have been various attempts at creating settlements for Australian Aboriginals to live traditionally, with varied success. Often after becoming used to European influences and generational changes it is difficult for Aboriginals to live this kind of lifestyle.
Ashmoo 06:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Population

message: I added:
:Various towns claim to be home to the Black Stump, traditionally you aren't in The Outback until you've travelled beyond the Black Stump.
AFAIK there is one in Blackall (according to the article), and one in/near both Bourke and Broken Hill.
--Garrie 02:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourism 

message: I don't know if the section needs to be split into Population (which would be 1 line) and Culture, or just renamed? As it is, there's not much about population in the section at all.--Garrie 03:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population seems to be more about culture 

message: WTF? The article states that there is no cropping in northern Australia. Is this some sort of joke? Unless someone can provide arefernce for this claim it gets delted. I'm sure I didn't imaging all that land under crops in the Qld. Central highlands or the Ord and VRD catchments. I really have no idea hwt the author menat by this comment. They say that the region recieves good rinfall so they can't be refrring to "the outback"  strictly.
I have no idea about this. It is similar to the claim that there is no grazing land outside of the Lake Eyre basin, which makes me wonder what all those sheep and cattle are at Blackall or Cunnamulla. Baisally the article seems full of errors on the extent of agriculture in outback Australia. I suspect someone ha smisread a reference.Ethel Aardvark 07:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No cropping in Northern Australia

message: As outback locations? How does a coastal location qualify as outback? I have never yet heard anyone use the term to refer to a coastal location. By defintion the outback is inland. Granted in the north the line often drifts closer to the coast, so parts of the Kimberly and even Charters Towers are occasionally referred to as outback, but never coastal towns. And Kakadu is Top End. Definitely not outback.
:Eastcoast it refers to inland areas, but for west coast the term get loosely applied to all areas outside the wheatbelt (Geraldton --> Wubin --> Southern Cross --> Esperance). Gnangarra 23:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Broome, Kakadu and Monkey Mia=

message: ... because i didn't think 'Interior and north' was particularly clear in the first sentence. best, Petesmiles 05:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed the opening 

message: Nowhere did I see any mention of what states of Australia that are part of the Outback region.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.218.161.17 (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are outback regions in all states except Tasmania and possibly Victoria. Agemegos (talk) 10:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What states? 

message: Has nothing to do with aboriginal concepts of land - but the european understanding of the land - any attempts to re-write this article misses the point made in the second paragraph of the article - SatuSuro 10:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: "on cattle station which are leased from the Federal Government. "    I think this is correct only in the Northern Territory.   In other states,  pastoral leasehold land is held from the State governments,  not the Federal government.Eregli bob (talk) 13:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Leashold pastoral land

message: The outback is a nebulous spatial term which denote those parts of australia away from the coastline or cities - as a geographical term it is close to meaningless (it is a cognitive nisnomer for geographically challenged observors who either have not experienced the thing or who are limited in their range of vocabulary to explain a wide variety of inland australian features)  - as a consequence to name it in terms of one type of feature against a widely varying area with a whole range geographical features - I would be reluctant to allow 'plain' to connote this annoyingly problematic term - sectionbs of it yes - but they need to be separated out and separately written about - not all the outback' it does not fit SatuSuro 03:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Its more cultural term rather than a physical location, it encompass more than just plains many of the notable features of the "Outback" are Ranges, Mountains and Rocks.  Gnangarra 07:34, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plains?

message: The statement "dingos were introduced to Australia years ago but have turned feral and now roam the outback, occasionally killing livestock" is inadequate. Dingoes were introduced to Australia by humans, but the event occurred thousands of years ago: "millennia" would be better than "years". The word "feral" may be technically correct, but I feel that it is misleading.
Agemegos (talk) 10:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dingoes 

message: Could soneone add at least one map? Will (Talk - contribs) 00:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that it's not a well-defined concept. It's the big dry bit in the middle of Australia. From an east coast perspective, it traditionally starts "beyond the Black Stump" of which there are many! It's something of a relative term, too, something more remote than where I am right now. I have added in an aerial photo that shows the arid areas (which are generally thought to be "outback" since the lack of water generally prevents any significant population or any agriculture. Kerry (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  No map showing the extent? 

message: This edit of June 2023 introduced a paragraph about food in the Outback. It reads like something lifted from a tourist brochure, and it clearly doesn't belong in the History section, but might it fit somewhere else? Tourism? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it for now, as it clearly didn't belong where it was. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 22:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Food in the History section