Talk:Control freak

message: It would be useful for someone to do more research and contribute much more information, someone that knows a lot about this.
This kind of information is very valuable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.134.84 (talk) 20:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Much more information needed

message: This is a blatent advert for an un-proven source.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.5.18 (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Thoughts?

message: I think the two sections should be split with a disambiguation page.  Or perhaps a merge of the animation portion into "List of Teen Titans Villians".  Slang terminology should be in Wikitionary anyway.
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I happen to agree that this article isn't really appropriate. I also removed the link to the "control freak" character. It just wasn't relevent.
Krisyan 09:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

message: Are you sure we can't have a picture of Steve Jobs?
:Although the Alan Deutschman remark regarding Steve Jobs is quite funny, I don't know if it really belongs here.--Tabun1015 21:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Steve Jobs

message: I removed the external link, which was incorrectly titled "examples of control freak behavior." What it really linked to was a random woman's personal blog talking about how her husband called her a control freak one day. It was not a worthwhile link.  Lawofone 15:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't add the irrelevant link without discussing it here. Anshul 07:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, I didn't, I removed it.  Lawofone 18:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The irrelevant link was back, so I removed it as well.  The link actually directed me to some advertisement page where it wanted me to swap my cell phone.  jasonaltenburg 6:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed link 

message: Pathological narcissists are often control freaks. This ought to be mentioned.--Penbat (talk) 20:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Control freak and Narcissism 

message: Is it just me, or is half the text on this page consisting only of quotes from some article? I'd argue the quotes make up too large a part of the overall text, and I'd further contend that they are poorly executed and cause the text to be difficult to understand as they are very much chopped into bits and pieces. I would also love it if someone could actually write an article on this detailing both the positive and already-listed negative side. Yes, "control freak" is a derogatory term, but "a need for control" does not necessarily have to be as there are multiple examples of worklife situations where some degree of it is a useful trait to possess. This is worth mentioning. I believe the person above was trying to convey this (although to the opposite extreme instead of a neutral middle-ground). I am not "correctly" knowledgeable enough to comfortably edit this article myself. I also lack the time and energy. That doesn't make it less important. 94.254.80.16 (talk) 23:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: It's just a general slang term used by the general public and it's not terminology in any branch of psychology or psychiatry. If it's to be linked with narcissism or antipersonality disorder, sources that comply with WP:MEDRS are needed that link "control freak" with "narcissism",  "antisocial behavior" and formal terminology in psychology and/or psychiatry.   Farrajak (talk) 18:43, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Control freak's not a term in psychology 

message: Could reliable third party sources be provided? (Enough to justify this huge template)? Farrajak (talk) 19:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Check this lot out: http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=%22control+freak%22+narcissism. Also narcissism is obviously much broader than just a mental health term, in fact as you must know, the correct mental health term is "narcissistic personality disorder". Narcissism is also a concept, societal and cultural attitude. You must surely know all this or dont you understand what you are editing ? Also "pop psychology" is perfectly OK as a Wikipedia source.--Penbat (talk) 19:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  diagnosis of [[narcissism]] - are there mental health professionals with this opinion? (other than in pop psych books)? 

message: While there is some truth in the comparison between Wellington and Napoleon, it is not the whole picture by any means. 
Wellington was a general in the British Army, under its Commander-in-Chief and answerable to elected politicians. His forces included allied contingents, who answered to their governments. To fulfil his orders from London and keep his various allies on side required constant attention.
Napoleon on the other hand was a dictator, answerable to nobody, and his armed forces answered only to him. As well as waging war, he also had the French Empire and its puppet states to run. Only by delegation could he manage such a task.
--Hors-la-loi 07:49, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison between Wellington and Napoleon?

message: I´m missing here the manager client subordination, where individuals on the lower rungs of wage/capability attempt to con the client into/force the client into, routes that that client is not willing to go into. IE: shrinkwrap licensing. Microsoft´s Bill Gates allotted to allow those types of individuals within his own sphere, ´IE: microsoft´, by giving his ´executives´ ample room to maneuver. This led to internal upsurbtion by ´control freaks´, most of any whom can be labelled, ´fascist communism/´ which leads to a ´army controlled´/´populist controlled´ element (Hence, the shrinkwrap licensing, where pretense is made to virtually con the individual in believing the shrinkwrap HAS any licit/legal standing anywhere. To force the issue of shrinkwrap ´legality´, a specific states legislation is used, deleware, south dakota, mexican contract, those same states & legislature having a ´populist´ movement which can be rallied upon to force a statement of ´legitimacy´ through pure bribery and extortion.
Another form of this ´shrinkwrap´, is the ´Bankers Internet contract´ (example is Wells Fargo with their ´no fee´ money transfer, where the client is extorted to press the agree button by and through inhibiting him from accessing his account and money transfer capability (this has a direct relationship with Stanford Bank/Antigua, fast amounts of subsidiation, and includes internal crime (current, running these days), where ´phone banker desks´ check/mine the banks accounts to see whom has had no/insufficient movements (accorded to them) so as to have a ´legitimate´ ´purpose´ to make these accounts disappear.
Both are forms of ´control freak´ modes, none of those modes having real legitimacy, the only purpose being to satisfy either criminal entendres (downright stealing), or obsessive-cumpulsive disorders. (Post Twin Towers, Post Vietnam War, Post Korean War, Post Iraq, are all internal social events of loss of control, where the individuals no longer have the amassed ´power´ to mass control/mass manipulate through excuses.
Other examples are paul jones (guayana), where the ´control freak´/obsessive-compulsive WITH codependencies obtains less and less control, and finally leads to forms of mass suicide. (Currently, this is the situation for what are several nations, including the POST Iraq United States). (With all out attempts to force a continuation on any scale of the continuation of the War Act, including direct attacks on individuals whom would eliminate the ´War Act´, or for that matter the continuation of the ´communist´ aspects of military fascism: ´Homeland Security´ Protocols (Also called the Vigilanti Acts) and similar, without which the individual presumes to lack control.
These issues and instances can last a very long time, examples abounding of situations where solely the death of the ´control freak´ leads to amelioration of the instance. IE: Her Hitlers Germany, Several Asian Nations with family regimes, several historical modes in aristocratic monarchism, where the ´new king´ becomes a ´control freak´, or for that matter is too lenient and alotts to allow a ´populist´ control freak into position, degrading his own capacity and leading to populist revolt (Russia).
In this same form and manner, wikipedia HAS shown a severity of signs of these individuals in the mitst of wikipededia itself, examples abounding of statements made that lead to individuals no longer participating. IE: the originators are ´control freak´ micromanagers. (In slang it would be said: a roach baller: individual whom puts his eyeballs between the legss of a roach [to observe the details]).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.209.58.55 (talk) 09:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New form. 

message: Never have I encountered a WP "Talk Page" comprised primarily of comments offered by the actual personality types being described in the article itself - that is, until today. Congratulations WP editors! You are now officially deemed WP Control Freaks!! Snit333 (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Inmates Speak? 

message: Might I suggest changing the phrase
to something along the lines of
I feel this changes the statement from one of implicit approval, to a neutral statement of fact. Jaguar83 (talk) 03:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality - "live-and-let-live principle" 

message: As of September 2021‎, this article contains gross misrepresentations of its citations as well as amateur psychology concepts. Some highlights:
*  control freak describes a person with a personality disorder characterized by undermining other people
*  this can be caused by feelings of separation or departure from a loved one 
*  People with histrionic personality disorder need to be the center of attention, to attract other people to themselves into disposable, personal relationships.
*  Recovery for them entails recognizing that being a control freak helped paradoxically preserve codependency itself
*  People with antisocial personality disorder tend to...
I've reverted back to #758768404 when much of this content started filtering into the article.
Wiki-psyc (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Control freak describes a person with a personality disorder?