Talk:Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms

message: Just as a heads up, I'm looking at in the next few days folding the character list into the plot section. This is becoming more of the standard way of handling this information for short manga series with a small main cast, as a way of duplicating plot summary (once for the story, then again for each character). This in addition to, as I can, filling in more of info on the media/adaptations. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hang on a minute, what are you going to do with the cast information from the movie?  --Malkinann (talk) 08:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  What I've seen done in this situation is a cast section in the movie section under media, along with production staff such as writer, director, producer, cinematographer, et and cet. I note that we also need the cast for the awardwinning audiodrama, which would be best handled in that section anyway. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps it would be a good idea to rewrite the plot section first, before folding the character section?  --Malkinann (talk) 20:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's my plan, actually, once I reread the manga. Or more specifically, once I steel myself to reread the manga (later this week, I hope). —Quasirandom (talk) 21:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Um, yeah, that part needs work. You can read the story either way, and so either would be an interpretation without a reliable-source behind it. I'll come up with something more neutral on my next pass. (Then reread the reviews to date.) —Quasirandom (talk) 15:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I mean, if you wanted to talk stigma in the story, I'd sooner talk about Nagio and Toko's family. Of course, there it's considered to be unfair. --Malkinann (talk) 19:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, rereading the manga, the stigma part is covered in "Country," while Minami's issue really is survivor guilt. I've tried to make this more clear in my rewrite of "Town". I initially wrote that based on incomplete memories. And I can see why it took Kono almost a year to write "Country." —Quasirandom (talk) 19:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Er, it's Toko -- who went to the Peace Park, where the Museum is. The summary as a whole is not my best writing ever, and needs a thorough editing. Does my rewrite make it clearer? —Quasirandom (talk) 01:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  In general, yes. :) Another niggle is that it's not clear in the summary that Kyoka (Nanami's mother) is dead by the time of Country part I. --Malkinann (talk) 01:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structural work 

message: While trying to find the Korean publisher, I came across this review, which looks like it has the potential of being a reliable professional review site, based on machine translations. Something to find a Korean-speaker to evaluate, and potentially use. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the Korean edition is out of print? --Malkinann (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm. Possible I suppose, but there are several bookstore sites out there offering it for sale, and machine translation turns up no sign they think it's OOP or hard to get. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Creative! :-D --Malkinann (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean links 

message: The previously mentioned in Quasirandom talk page thought provoking review: Ng Suat Tong in hooded utilitarian. 
:Note: Ng Suat Tong is RS per in The Comics Journal reviewers list.
:Note2: My preferred quote is in a comment from Bill Randall: "My main problem with TOECCOCB is that it feels so… educational. Kouno was born a generation after the war. I mean, Barefoot Gen’s educational too, but her generation watched slideshows. His piled up bodies." --KrebMarkt 12:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition to the review itself, both in it and in the comments have links to other reviwes, some of which are reliable source and not all of them, I think, have been used. Worth digesting, if someone has the time. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:04, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Others ones

message: So, we've got some good resources in the External links section, if only we had a Japanese speaker working on the article. Of particular interest:
* Can anyone pick out of the our source for the audio drama more information, such as staff/cast and what, exactly, the award was? 
**I think I've picked out the main parts of this by other sources - the actor list is not comprehensive (the Japanese Wikipedia has more) but that's all I can find sources for at this time.  --Malkinann (talk) 23:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese translations needed 

message: Is it worth getting someone new in to give the article a copyedit now, or should we focus on trying to get someone with mad Japanese skillz to digest the above resources first? —Quasirandom (talk) 21:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the latter first, as well as checking out the Manga: The Complete Guide entry. --Malkinann (talk) 12:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've requested an owner of MtCG to digest its entry. Now to find Japanese speakers to help -- requests for assistance at WP:MANGA and Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Japanese cinema task force (the two wikiprojects bannered here) has so far gotten nothing. Any ideas of who else to approach? —Quasirandom (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be worthwhile approaching an individual, as a personal favour? --Malkinann (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm open to suggestions. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Next steps 

message: A place to park info about the movie, for possible use in the article:
* The movie was showcased at the Skip City Film Festival on 14 July 2007, before it opened in theaters: http://www.skipcity-dcf.jp/2007/en/program/premier/ (I added this to article as a reference to where the outdoor sets were constructed)
* Movie has been screened in the States with English subtitles at the 2008 Japan Film Festival (April 2008 in L.A.) and the Japanese Embassy (August 2008 in DC). 
Searches also pick up a handful of theater listings, plus the DVD is available from the usual Asian cinema importers. Some of the product listings in the latter include more staff credits than we currently list, FWIW. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie information 

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