Talk:NetDynamics Application Server

message: The article says that the iPlanet Appserver was based on both the NetDynamics and Netscape app servers.  The Netscape Application Server article says it was purely Netscape AS.  Anyone have a cite for which is actually the case?--NapoliRoma (talk) 22:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Netscape AS Or NetDynamics AS? 

message: hired by on of the founders of NetDynamics to write this page independently to add information and make it more robust. I am not a professional Wikipedia editor, or connected to any firm or organization, but just a graduate student writing three pages related to them. 
Adding on behalf of User:Bendiwan in an attempt to help them understand how this is supposed to work. Basically they wish to entirely rewrite the article. I know this is a little off from the usual process but here are their proposed changes. Overall it does seem like an improvement from what we've got now, but it would be best if someone with no COI reviewed it to be sure it's propoerly sourced and not overly promotional in tone. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, they've gone ahead and just done it again, so I'm turning off my part of this request. Edits need reviewing by an uninvolved editor though. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:39, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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message: * iPlanet
* Comparison of application servers
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Bendiwan (talk) 02:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I've taken a brief look at this, and this article sounds highly promotional about the company. I gather from the text of the proposed content that this company is no longer in existence, but this definitely reads as though it's looking back through rose-tinted glasses. As such, I don't think the tone of the content here is suitable for an encyclopedia article, but that can be fixed. We must write about subjects from a neutral point of view. There are also large sections of this text which appear to be unsourced, though to be fair I have no way of verifying the offline sources you've included in the references list so I might have overlooked bits.Large rewrites like this are generally harder to review than smaller changes and unfortunately I don't have the time to properly review this just now, so I'll leave the edit request open in case someone else gets to this before I manage to get back to it. stwalkerster (talk) 23:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

text: Closed as , per . Proposer has submitted a second edit request. JBchrch talk 07:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: NetDynamics was a Silicon Valley startup that existed at the early stages of the application server market, estimated at $15.84B in revenue as of 2020  Grand View Research. https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/application-server-market.  NetDynamics was founded in May 1995 in Palo Alto by Zack Rinat, Ofer Ben-Shachar, and Doron Sherman, and was acquired in July 1998 by Sun Microsystems (NASDAQ :SUNW)  Sullivan J. Wired Magazine. https://www.wired.com/1998/07/sun-buys-netdynamics/ , which was later acquired by Oracle Corporation (NYSE: ORCL)  Oracle Sun Acquisition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle . At the time of its acquisition, NetDynamics reported annual revenues of $13M+  McKay, N. InfoWorld Jul 6th 1998. Sun Aquries Serever Vendor NetDynamics https://books.google.com/books?id=6lEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=netdynamics+%22revenue%22+1998&source=bl&ots=0pRTRYgzEE&sig=ACfU3U0S7caPtU2YmTkTF6HrI5ALYS80_Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj9-Lmz0_fwAhUMu54KHXo-BEYQ6AEwBnoECA0QAw#v=onepage&q=netdynamics%20%22revenue%22%201998&f=false , 180 employees, a global presence on 4 continents, and about 1000 global customers, including: Boeing, FedEx, AT&T, Deutsche Bank, Telstra, Port of Singapore, Deloitte, Microsoft, ADP, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Toys R Us, Edison, and Bear Stearns.
NetDynamics was founded as Spider Technologies in May, 1995, by Zack Rinat, Ofer Ben-Shachar, and Doron Sherman with the idea to transform the World Wide Web (WWW) from static HTML pages into interactive, dynamic applications connected to backend databasesTebbe, Mark. Add Spider to Web development tool kit. May 20, 1996. PC Week. Vol. v13 Issue n20, p. pN7, 1 p.  . 
When the company started its operations in 1995, the internet mostly consisted of static messaging boards and HTML pages that had to be manually edited when changes needed to be made. NetDynamics’ first software product, by connecting HTML fields to a database, allowed these pages to dynamically serve information. 
At first, NetDynamics’ technology was used to power transactional pages such as product catalogs, real estate listings, and stock prices, but as the technology became more scalable and integrated with other enterprise systems, companies began to use its application server platform to power everything from mission-critical enterprise self-service applications to rich e-commerce websites  DePaul University Computer Sciene Department https://condor.depaul.edu/elliott/513/projects-archive/DS420Fall98/Yazoo/Ruth/netdyn.html .
In 1996, the company changed its name from Spider Technologies to NetDynamics to reflect the significance of transforming the Internet from a collection of published flat files to a  source of dynamically-generated information  Cnet https://www.cnet.com/news/short-spider-to-change-name/.
The company’s early releases, Spider 1.0Wingfield, Nick,Oct 23, 1995
 Spider tools speeds database, Web connections. https://books.google.com/books?id=XzoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=Spider+tools+speeds+database,+Web+connections.+infoworld+Oct+23,+1995,&source=bl&ots=f4ePcvQrkU&sig=ACfU3U3W5ys-6Pwfh6f4QVHIVo4Upbo9xQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwixyJaxyN3uAhWKuZ4KHWSnA0cQ6AEwAHoECAgQAg#v=onepage&q=Spider%20tools%20speeds%20database%2C%20Web%20connections.%20infoworld%20Oct%2023%2C%201995%2C&f=false InfoWorld , Vol. v17 Issue n43, p. p6, 1 p.
  and 1.5  Aragon, Lawrence. Nov 13, 1995.
.Zack Rinat: spinning a new Web. PC Week. , Vol. v12 Issue n45, p. pA4, 1 p.  , enabled developers to make connections between fields on a web page and stored information in a database, and addressed performance requirements of dynamic applications through the handling of rapid database calls.  
With NetDynamics 2.0 LaMonica, Martin. April 8, 1996. Spider to offer Java tool for server apps; NetDynamics offers scalability, ease of programming. https://books.google.com/books?id=tz4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=Spider+to+offer+Java+tool+for+server+apps;+NetDynamics+offers+scalability,+ease+of+programming.&source=bl&ots=P2pg1Sfpwf&sig=ACfU3U0cxbpHIpl-WKUAFeyybL-eBJlWWw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7g4W3z93uAhUZHDQIHc2SCTYQ6AEwAHoECBMQAg#v=onepage&q=Spider%20to%20offer%20Java%20tool%20for%20server%20apps%3B%20NetDynamics%20offers%20scalability%2C%20ease%20of%20programming.&f=false InfoWorld. April 8, 1996, Vol. v18 Issue n15, p. p43, 1 p. the company launched a full visual developer studio that handled issues of load balancing and scalability under high throughput conditions. Also notable, NetDynamics 2.0 was built using Java as its scripting language and was one of the first commercial software applications based on JavaShankar, Gess. July 22, 1996. NetDynamics serves data to Web. https://books.google.com/books?id=Ij0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA45-IA2&lpg=PA45-IA2&dq=NetDynamics+serves+data+to+Web+InfoWorld.+July+22,+1996,&source=bl&ots=CMobpgirbo&sig=ACfU3U3CgdJ-tGjIFfXyyTo1aW4eReXamA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiy7vLK0N3uAhWNtp4KHafYBh4Q6AEwAHoECAcQAg#v=onepage&q=NetDynamics%20serves%20data%20to%20Web%20InfoWorld.%20July%2022%2C%201996%2C&f=false. InfoWorld. Vol. v18 Issue n30, p. pIW/1, 1 p.
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NetDynamics 3.0Babcock, Charles. Dec 2, 1996. SAP, PeopleSoft apps Web-ified https://books.google.com/books?id=l6NBBE8_9IUC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=SAP,+PeopleSoft+apps+Web-ified.+Computerworld.+Dec+2,+1996&source=bl&ots=BhxUS7ksD5&sig=ACfU3U0bEyl8Ap7FjfnRCcCZJJkKVbvHog&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGo_ur0t3uAhVMpZ4KHa-0CRQQ6AEwAnoECAcQAg#v=onepage&q=SAP%2C%20PeopleSoft%20apps%20Web-ified.%20Computerworld.%20Dec%202%2C%201996&f=false. Computerworld. Vol. v30 Issue n49, p. p74, 1 p.  brought dynamic web applications into the enterprise with integrations to ERP systems such as PeopleSoft and SAP, launching innovation in enterprise self-service applications for HR, finance, and other corporate functions. 
NetDynamics 4.0 Szeto, Lai-Han. January 19, 1998. NetDynamics 4.0 edges out competition. https://books.google.com/books?id=4VEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=RA1-PA61&lpg=RA1-PA61&dq=NetDynamics+4.0+edges+out+competition.&source=bl&ots=ApgZ1L1o9X&sig=ACfU3U1TMtLP8oZwKl3-_IaPZyT7w3RJ1w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdmZLn093uAhUIFjQIHQbEAQsQ6AEwAXoECAcQAg#v=onepage&q=NetDynamics%204.0%20edges%20out%20competition.&f=false. InfoWorld.  Vol. 20 Issue 3, p58C. 2p.  delivered a full enterprise platform with the introduction of PAC (platform adaptor components) adaptors for a broad variety of corporate systems and a visual console for managing and optimizing the attributes of the application server functions.
To accelerate adoption, NetDynamics established strategic agreements with Sun Microsystems and Netscape and other application partners  Netscape application server https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Application_Server . In July 1998, Sun Microsystems signed an agreement to acquire NetDynamics in a stock swap deal that closed in September of 1998, where NetDynamics became a division of JavaSoft under Alan Baratz Nick Wingfield. July 2, 1998. Sun Micro Agrees to Acquire NetDynamics in Stock Deal. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB899338437867542000 The Wall Street Journal. NetDynamics was represented by Qatalyst Partners, Frank Quattrone and George Boutros, of DMG Technology Group.
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Release        	Date    	Key Innovation                                                 	Other Key Innovation
Spider 1.0     	Jul 1995	Visual development tool for connecting web pages to databases  	Enabled web pages to include dynamically generated data fields
Spider 1.5     	Dec 1995	Improved speed, reliability, and scalability of dynamic updates	High-performance interface to databases improving performance
NetDynamics 2.0	Jul 1996	NetDynamics Studio (for visual development and scripting) +
NetDynamics Application Server (for load balancing and scalability)	Industry’s first application server, delivering robust performance under load and the industry’s first commercial product based on Java.
NetDynamics 3.0	Feb 1997	Added WebEXTEND for PeopleSoft and SAP                         	Enabled dynamic transactions to occur between web pages and enterprise ERP, HR and CRM applications.
NetDynamics 4.0	Nov 1997	Enterprise Network Application Platform                        	Introduced PACs (Platform Adaptor Components) for broader enterprise integration and a command center for managing server-side operations
NetDynamics 5.0 was introduced post the Sun acquisition.
Investment rounds included:
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Round                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     	Amount	Date         	Investors
Series AMessmer, Ellen. December 25, 1995. Spider Weaves a New Web. https://books.google.com/books?id=sg0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=spider+technologies+hummer+winblad+%221995%22&source=bl&ots=fY4Kc1KbK1&sig=ACfU3U2W5g9g_UCTumWlRGExLZGX6kuJaw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiKh5nbzd3uAhV4IzQIHT5hCSUQ6AEwAnoECAcQAg#v=onepage&q=spider%20technologies%20hummer%20winblad%20%221995%22&f=false. NetworkWorld. Volume v13, Issue n1, P.25. .	$1.9M 	July 1995    	Hummer Winblad (Mark Gorenberg) and a private investment from Andy Grove, Chairman & CEO of Intel
Series B                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	$5M   	February 1996	USVP and Intel Capital
Series C Cnet. October 10, 1997. Short Take: NetDynamics gets funding https://www.cnet.com/news/short-take-netdynamics-gets-funding/.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     	$8.5M 	October 1997 	Integral Capital (Roger McNamee, the Galleon Group, Attractor Investment Management, and Van Wagoner Capital Partners
 
 
NetDynamics leaned on its corporate core values cultivated by the CEO, Zack Rinat. These values, introduced at new employee training and reinforced at quarterly awards ceremonies, included:  1) Reach for the dream 2) Passion for excellence 3) uncompromised integrity  4) Put the customer first, then the company, then the team, then the individual 5) Respect the individual, and 6) Weaving a safety net.  These core values were designed to inspire employees to set their goals high, be drivers of change, and make decisions that put the customer first.  Every employee throughout the company worked to move the wheels of internet innovation forward, and many reflect that the company felt like family, generating long-standing friendships and professional relationships. NetDynamics’ core values were a factor behind its actions on every level, from the technology to the business, what made working with NetDynamics appealing to its employees and customers, and what led to the considerable annual revenue of a company of that type of time and the largest startup acquisition in Silicon Valley prior to the dot com boom.Smith Hendrickson. Susan. Jul 19, 1998. Will a big company buy your startup?. https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/1998/07/20/smallb2.html San Francisco Business Times
 
 
1996: PC Magazine Editors’ Choice award, competing against entries from Microsoft, Apple, and Netscape. Plain, Stephen W. Sept 10, 1996.NetDynamics. (version 2.0 from Spider Technologies Inc is named the editors' choice) PC Magazine.Vol. v15 Issue n15, p. p234, 3 p
 
1997: JavaWorld’s Editors choice award, for its use of Java in the application server
1998: Internet Net Best award
As the NetDynamics product evolved, bigger and more established firms joined the company's customer pool. Among the first customers were: Picker Bank, Sirrus Internet Solutions, The Collective, and Mibor Property Research. Notable customers who joined over the years included: FedEx,Toys R Us, Boeing, Cisco, Microsoft, Netscape, AT&T, ADP,KPMG, Bear Sterns, Edison International, Deloitte, and many others.
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Bendiwan (talk)
*  This is the oldest request in the backlog at the moment. If you are still around and interested in this content being incorporated, reply here and I can see about looking at it in more detail. Right off the bat, it'd be helpful if you could edit it for Manual of Style concerns (especially references, which follow punctuation, and should ideally avoid bare links and instead use the respective templates). WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs)  01:48, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: *It has been a month, and the requester has not responded to this ping so I am going to close this request as stale. Bendiwan may open a new request below if they return. Z1720 (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
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