Talk:Charter schools in the United States

message: See: Radcliffe, Jennifer "Charter schools on the chopping block?" Houston Chronicle. March 20, 2007.
WhisperToMe (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article on TX charter schools

message: I edited the section entitled "Learning Gains Studies."  Whoever wrote the section claims that "this work generally finds that charter schools outperform traditional schools," but only provides citations for four (randomly selected, I presume) papers.  Until you provide a meta-analysis that shows what this work "generally finds," I've changed the wording to reflect the uncertainty of the claim.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandergreenb (talk • contribs) 23:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The original phrasing benefited from a rephrase, as it seemed to suggest that these studies are conclusive without offering substantive sources to prove this. I don't think this kind of evidence exists, so this edit was very poignant overall. Gmschnei (talk) 05:17, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: This work generally finds

message: The description under the subheading "Too much power for teachers and parents" does not appear to explain why it is not beneficial to give more power to parents and teachers. More info is needed. Otherwise, maybe it would be better to move that section to another section such as "Structure and Characteristics." mezzaninelounge (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: A criticism or a compliment?

message: SPELLING ERROR ON CHART: The graphic chart for the Stanford U study misspells "performance" in the graphic as PERFORMACE.69.126.88.80 (talk) 05:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they're just dumb.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.161.38 (talk) 13:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

text: 46% + 37% is 83% and this would only be the amount that are worse if you consider those that are the same to be worse. 26% are not the amount that are "as good" as public schools according to this study. They are the amount that are better.--Jorfer (talk) 16:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I answered the question to myself a while ago. If we take we do 37%-17% (worse - better) to get a net improvement of 20% and add it to the 46% that are as good, we find that charters are 66% as good as public schools. Obviously based on the figures charters are overall worse. CartoonDiablo (talk) 19:37, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you are mixing apples and oranges here. The percentages are the number of charter schools that are better than, or the same as, or worse than public schools, and not the amount better. If a charter school does 1% better than public schools, than it would go in that 17% while a charter school that does 50% worse would go in the 37%. So you can't draw any conclusions about how much better or worse charter schools do compared to public schools. You can say that 83% are do no better than public schools, and/or that 54% do no worse than public schools, but that's about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wschart (talk • contribs) 19:36, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the Stanford study on charters 

message: Ben Joravsky of the Chicago Reader has written some interesting critiques of local charters...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scroblachoir (talk • contribs) 00:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joravsky- Chicago Reader 

message: I have no idea what chocha power is, but I imagine it is a defacement. In any case, this statement should be corrected or barring that, clairified. Unit335 (talk) 03:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. TJRC (talk) 04:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Chocha power"?

message: *Kastenbaum, Steve. "Charter schools: Wave of the future?" CNN. December 15, 2011.
WhisperToMe (talk) 01:04, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: More charters

message: Shouldn't the introduction make it clear that Charter schools are an American term for a private school that receives some government funding?  The concept goes under different names in other countries.124.197.15.138 (talk) 01:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  origin 

message: Recommend replacing dead reference link #59 with http://www.aft.org/issues/schoolchoice/charters/  Gprobins (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference replacement 

message: I'm a charter school noob, but even I can tell this article needs a major rewrite. The section about the United States, in particular, meanders aimlessly. Much of it could be removed without lowering the article's information content.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffme (talk • contribs) 22:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Entry needs an extensive rewrite 

message: A couple of days ago  added  to the "External links" section. I , followed by a .
From what I can tell, the two links provided are to two essays written by the user adding them. I think they are an overly promotional addition to this article's external links, and inappropriate per WP:ELNO and WP:NOT. Granted, the "Further reading"-section, , could use a fair bit of pruning. But that is no argument in favour of adding links to these two articles. Gabbe (talk) 12:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent addition to external links 

message: The following sentence in the second paragraph appears to be in reference to some timeframe or other modifier but no such content exists.  This should either be rewritten\clarified or removed.--Aleding (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence in 2nd paragraph is unclear 

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message: This article has a strong bias in favor of charter schools. Positively presents data from studies that support charter schools and downplays sources that have an unfavorable view of charter schools. Examples:
* Questioning the reliability of a NEA study.
* Examples of study critique instead of neutral reporting
* Biased single source section
* Superiority? of Charter Schools  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargolito (talk • contribs) 16:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is structured with case studies that provide evidence for charter schools, but seem to ignore or not seek any expansion of counter evidence, even if such counter evidence is used in studies that are cited across the article. It seems to pick and choose based on what is necessary to justify a positive outlook on charter schools, especially in "Local evaluations of charter schools." Gmschnei (talk) 05:36, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias favoring Charter Schools 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The structure of this portion of the article is strange. Why does it reference only two local evaluations as pointing to how urban charter schools in two districts can outperform public schools? This portion of the article would do well to represent both sides of the debate, in that it currently only evaluates two case studies and treats them as if there is no counter evidence. This CREDO report that is referenced throughout the article lists 11 cases in which students learned less than there peers in math and 10 cases where they learned less in reading. Overall, this portion would do well to be more comprehensive and actually a broader outlook on this discussion, rather than limiting it to two studies that seem to offer confirmation bias. Gmschnei (talk) 05:34, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local evaluations of charter schools 

message: The "Criticism" portion of article talks about "Racial segregation," but the phrasing does not at all capture the central point of the critique. In discussing the central point of the UCLA article, the criticism should address how "charter school enrollments often do not match their surrounding communities." It should also cite the study itself and not a UCLA Newsroom press release.Gmschnei (talk) 05:41, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racial segregation 

message: Hello Wikipedians,
I am adding some parental considerations for charter school choice from research studies. Also a section on possible resources that can help in that decision making process all from research studies. Copied from my sandbox: User:Elizabethgaribay58/sandbox Elizabethgaribay58 (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding to page