Talk:ARTHUR

message: Things that I cannot do, which would be required to improve the article:
*Find specific pages on the specified web sites which actually refer to ARTHUR
*#http://www.artreg.mil.se (kept, although I can't find the specific page, as the site navigation is only in Swedish, but I believe it to be there)
*#http://www.soldf.se (deleted, as there only appears to be a paragraph on it, using English language navigation pages)
*#http://www.ericsson.com/ (plausible, but incorrect, but I found some 2002 press releases)
*# http://www.saab.se (quite possible)
*Find newspaper or unclassified journal articles on it.  They don't have to be online.  The Ericsson site seems to have references to the vehicles being deployed in Greece and the Czech Republic, and the SAAB site reports negotiations with Spain.
*Remove first-person references (I could do that, but it would be wrong).  This is an encyclopedia, not a journal.
If you need assistance with English words, please let me know.  I've converted a few instances to standard English, but I need help:
#"small radioactive isotope" → "short Radio-frequency pulse" or "short RADAR pulse"?  (RADAR is supposed to be capitalized in English, in spite of Wikipedia's decision to the contrary.)
#"Pansarskott" → ?
#"precautions" → "defenses"?
— Arthur Rubin |  (talk)
=== responses ===
# The "small radioactive isotope" stuff is probably just a mistranslation by a person not proficient with electromagnetic issues. The radar (designated PE491) is a C-band (5 GHz) radar based on travelling wave tubes and using a phased array antenna. There's nothing radioactive about it.
# pansarskott i Swedish mil.speak for man-portable, one-shot anti-tank weapons in general. The famous AT4 by Saab is in the Swedish armed forces designated Pansarskott m/86. I think the relevant paragraph(s) in the article can be replaced with something like The carrier vehicle is not armoured and the crew is thus unlikely to survive attacks from the enemy's tanks, mechanized infantry and weapons like cluster bombs and anti-radiation missiles. Exactly what standard small-arms the different customers choose to equip the crew with seems outside the scope of the article.
# There seem to be very few english pages overall at http://www.artreg.mil.se (web site of Sweden's Artillery training regiment) But OTOH, I checked the site and there aren't any Swedish pages containing any in-depth information either. Most of it is just pictures and crew interviews from excersises. FMV (Swedish Defence Materiel Administration) doesn't have anything either.
# Ericsson Microwave (manufacturer of the radar and c2-parts of the system) was sold to SAAB in 2006 and only some press releases seem to remain at Ericsson's site. Neither http://www.saab.se or http://www.saabgroup.com seem to have put up any information yet. Maybe sales is not going well. ;-)
# There has been articles published by Jane's but I don't have a subscription.
JTragardh 19:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Rubin 

message: # The "small radioactive isotope" stuff is probably just a mistranslation by a person not proficient with electromagnetic issues. The radar (designated PE491) is a C-band (5 GHz) radar based on travelling wave tubes and using a phased array antenna. There's nothing radioactive about it.
# pansarskott i Swedish mil.speak for man-portable, one-shot anti-tank weapons in general. The famous AT4 by Saab is in the Swedish armed forces designated Pansarskott m/86. I think the relevant paragraph(s) in the article can be replaced with something like The carrier vehicle is not armoured and the crew is thus unlikely to survive attacks from the enemy's tanks, mechanized infantry and weapons like cluster bombs and anti-radiation missiles. Exactly what standard small-arms the different customers choose to equip the crew with seems outside the scope of the article.
# There seem to be very few english pages overall at http://www.artreg.mil.se (web site of Sweden's Artillery training regiment) But OTOH, I checked the site and there aren't any Swedish pages containing any in-depth information either. Most of it is just pictures and crew interviews from excersises. FMV (Swedish Defence Materiel Administration) doesn't have anything either.
# Ericsson Microwave (manufacturer of the radar and c2-parts of the system) was sold to SAAB in 2006 and only some press releases seem to remain at Ericsson's site. Neither http://www.saab.se or http://www.saabgroup.com seem to have put up any information yet. Maybe sales is not going well. ;-)
# There has been articles published by Jane's but I don't have a subscription.
JTragardh 19:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  responses 

message: It is just an all terrain vehicle. Hence it is not a B206S but rather the standard BV206, Which is developed and produced by Hägglunds. This article overall seems to have alow standard.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.241.250.12 (talk) 09:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The BV206 is not an APC. 

message: I am mystified by the section "Nordic Battle Group". It appears that the Nordic Battle Group will use the ARTHUR for exactly the same thing that every other user will use it for - detecting artillery fire. The statement about finding the "guilty" unit refers to what, exactly? Friendly units firing into civilian targets? Or enemy units firing artillery?
I suspect this section should be removed.
Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:07, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it's a bit vague.  However, I believe the point of the original author is that the Swedish version of ARTHUR has an extra capability in that it can automatically warn of incoming fire to an area/zone.  Frodet (talk) 15:03, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nordic Battle Group 

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