Talk:Grand Duchy of Lithuania

message: What was the exact way of it?  Not to attack forces of Moscow before they are defeated by Mamai? A typical ally behavior.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.127.26.74 (talk) 08:52, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The battle of Kulikovo never took place, there is no archaeological evidence of that event ever taking place. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  In 1380 a Lithuanian army allied with Russian forces to defeat the Golden Horde in the Battle of Kulikovo 

message: http://www.iesw.lublin.pl/projekty/pliki/IESW-121-02-07.pdf Xx236 (talk) 06:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruthenians - sourced but removed 

message: The link provided in the infobox with regards to paganism is  to Lithuanian mythology, with an opening setence stating it is specifically a branch of Baltic mythology: "Lithuanian mythology is a type of Baltic mythology, developed by Lithuanians throughout the centuries."
Baltic mythology/paganism is what was practiced, as the Poles, Ruthenians (Ukranians/Belarusians), Germans and Rus of Novgorod were all Christianized. The Estonians were still pagan, but they worshipped non-Indo-European Finnic paganism, and were not part of the Grand Duchy in any case. 174.119.80.219 (talk) 02:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You fail to understand that it links to the same article. And the Estonian argument is totally out of place. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lithuanian mythology/paganism 

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message: I think, that GDL is Lithuanian - Belarusian state, but there are some people, that think it was only Lithuanian state. What do YOU think? Signevian DS (talk) 06:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Kingdom, later Grand Duchy, of LITHUANIA was founded by Lithuanians according to Encyclopedia Brittanica, this research project, this research article and multitudes of other sources. A state can be of a certain ethnicity even if the state is multi-ethnic. e.g. Apartheid South Africa. The white minority was ruling over the black majority (Zulu people, Xhosa people, etc.). Does having a majority black population make South Africa a black state? No - the state belonged to the whites, not to the blacks. So, South Africa was founded and maintained by the white Afrikaners - it was a white state. What about GDL? Where there Slavs in it? Yes. Even if they were a majority, which is uncertain due to lack of statistical data and Polonization affecting many Lithuanians, that in no way makes GDL a Slavic State. GDL was founded by Lithuanians, maintained by a Lithuanian elite and is thus a LITHUANIAN STATE. --Itzhak Rosenberg (talk) 10:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: GDL was founded by Belarusians, maintained by Belarusians and it was Belarusian State. I think you will be surprised, but all main documents, like Statutes in the GDL were written in Belarusian language. 178.122.221.246 (talk) 08:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belarusian, Lithuanian or General history? 

message: Pofka, could you provide a reliable source showing that a flag existed that looked the same this image, not a coat of arms? Coats of arms are not the same as flags throughout history, they are separate things and if this was historically never a flag then this user created graphic is a work of fiction. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 17:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Royal banner of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.svg]] 

message: I think this article's images might need some cleanup as they might be excessive/crufty. What images should we keep, and what should we remove? -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 14:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Thanks for your opinion. By the way, it is important to note here that the 1580 ceremony had three important aspects for the Grand Duchy of Lithuania: 1) Stephen Báthory was elevated/enthroned as the Grand Duke of Lithuania; 2) a separate ceremony manifested Lithuania's sovereignty; 3) a separate ceremony was held by ignoring/violating the Union of Lublin (because it stipulated that a joint Polish-Lithuanian monarch will be elected in the Election sejm and crowned at the same time). A separate ceremony of 1580 clearly was the will of Lithuanian nobles to ignore the Union of Lublin because they demanded a separate ceremony before the Union and then organized it with Báthory. All these three aspects are clearly stressed in the article of the Palace of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania (quoted above), so until solid arguments are provided (Piotrus?) why the official website of the Palace of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania is not a WP:RS and where it is stipulated in Wikipedia (e.g. it is not included to Wikipedia:Deprecated sources) – no information in it is dubious and there absolutely are no violations of the WP:OR rule in this article describing the 1580 ceremony. The ignoration of the Union of Lublin is clearly expressed in the article of the Palace of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania: "... rengiant buvo ignoruojama Liublino unija ir manifestuojamas Lietuvos savarankiškumas" (). So all these three aspects are important and the sentence "On 29 May 1580, a ceremony was held in the Vilnius Cathedral during which bishop Merkelis Giedraitis presented Stephen Báthory (King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania since 1 May 1576) a luxuriously decorated sword and a hat adorned with pearls (both were sanctified by Pope Gregory XIII himself), while this ceremony manifested the sovereignty of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and had the meaning of elevation of the new Grand Duke of Lithuania, this way ignoring the stipulations of the Union of Lublin" is just a condensed variant of facts provided in the article of the Palace of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania. Cukrakalnis, do you have a different opinion about any of these three points? -- Pofka (talk) 11:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sentence about the 1580 ceremony does not contain original research per WP:RS 

message: Grand Duchy of Lithuania was founded Roman's that come on ships from city Aquillea that written in Cronicle of Bychovec 
https://www.vostlit.info/Texts/rus/Bychovec/frametext.htm Александр Макович (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 20:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2024 

message: My apology, but in this article you provide historically incorrect data not saying that the Grand Duchy first capital was Novogrudok and it was founded in Belarussian territories, confusing readers. Please consider correcting your article and rewriting it according to the Historical evidence, all Lithuanian and Belarusian citizens know, thanks 188.77.31.128 (talk) 06:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  My apology, but in this article you provide historically incorrect data not saying that the Grand Duchy first capital was Navahrudak (Novogrudok) and it was founded in Belarusian territories, confusing readers. Please consider correcting your article and rewriting it according to the Historical evidence, all Lithuanian and Belarusian citizens know, thanks