Talk:Siege of Fort William Henry

message: This battle is depicted in the movie Last of the Mohicans (sp?) - in the movie, the French general appears to suggesting to the natives to attack the British after they leave the fort.75.154.236.150 (talk) 00:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Last of the Mohicans

message: Wikipedia:Peer review/Battle of the Thousand Islands/archive1
:I Just finished up the main body of this article on a relitivly small engagemet of the French and Indian War. I'm hopeing a peer review will bring some suggestions on how the article can be improved and hopfully bring some more info on the subject. I'd like to see more info on some of the personalities that don't have they're own page to link to, and some more detail on how the battle developed... Any input would be very much appreciated! Mike McGregor (Can) 18:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: request for peer review, Battle of the Thousand islands

message: I was fortunate to work on excavations around Fort William Henry, actually the incomplete Fort George, back in the very late 1990s and early 2000. I have many sources on Fort William Henry and the battle itself. The sources are mostly written by David Starbuck who oversaw some excavations within the reconstructed fort in the 1990s. However, I am a rather busy college student at the moment and I can't spare the time to put up much more than a few observations until this summer (6/2006). After that I'd be more than happy to contribute. ZenTrowel 03:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I'd like to add a lot of info on this fort

message: Should the article be renamed to Siege of Fort William Henry? As that is what it literally was. There was very little fighting outside the Fort, except the massacre which was not really a battle.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's a no-brainer, so I went ahead and renamed it. A Google Books search suggests that "siege of Fort William Henry" is about six times more common than "battle of...." —Kevin Myers 00:14, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle or Siege?

message: `in the French Preperations sections it states that "several" prisoners were ritualy eaten following the battle of sabbath day point, but on the battle of sabbath day point page it is specifically stated that "one unlucky prisoner" was eaten. i'm inclined to go with the latter but wtf do i know
Primergrey (talk) 22:24, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be inclined to agree with you, because Parkman (cited here) isn't always right.  However, William Nester quotes Bougainville on the matter (link): "They put in the pot and ate three prisoners." Fowler refers to a different primary account that mentions only one victim. Magic♪piano 00:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  how many eaten? 

message: In the section "Participating Indian nations",  the author of the section references a historian named William Nester who claims that various Indian tribes from all over the continent came to participate in the battle, some traveling distances of 1500 miles to do so.  Just the sheer scale of participation and distance traveled for the battle makes me doubt these claims.  What incentive did the Menominee, Iowa or Winnebago from the great plains or the Fox and Sac from far out west to fight in a war they had no stake in?  Further more, the Iowa, Fox, Sac, Menominee, Winnebago, Kickapoo, Miami, Atikamekw and Winnebago  tribes from all records I can find are listed to have no involvement in the French and Indian War.  To question the validity of this claim further, the "Canadian" Iroquois and Onondaga, with the exception of a few deserters, sided with the British in the French and Indian War, not the French, so it would not make sense for them to be in this battle.  
The real question I'm posing here is weather that particular section of text should be removed or not. In my opinion it should because it lacks serious a explanation and evidence for how his claims could be possible. For this reason I am going to remove this particular section of text. If someone happened to disagree or has another opinion other than mine I encourage them to voice their concerns. on my talk page. 
Elxa izhne (talk) 04:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: William Nester has written extensively on the French and Indian War, and is as far as I can tell a respected historian of the period.  The primary source he cites for his description of the composition of the Native corps is the journal of Louis Antoine de Bougainville.  I agree that the presence of some of the listed tribes is easy to question, but the numbers that came long distances were relatively small.  See Nester as cited (or presumably Bougainville's journal, if you have access to a version of it) for a detailed breakdown.  I suspect the principal explanation for their presence at all is that they were recruited over a period of months through the extensive French trading networks. Magic♪piano 22:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questioning the Valitity of William Nesters Claims