Talk:Royal and noble styles

message: I call dibs on the transformation of Roman military titles> Germanic military titles > Germanic (i.e. medieval) heritable titles....at least till the 10th c.!!  (Unless somebody else really wants it) JHK
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:The titles -- styles -- of royalty, nobility, and gentry are subject to many difficulties.  To some extent styles are both a matter of legal reality and of self representation.  
:topics to explore:
:common titles of nobility - their origins
:titles as heritable
:titles as propaganda claims
:the use of styles of nobility in Meiji Japan
:the abolition of all titles (in some countries) in the modern era
-- Ruhrjung 13:35 29 May 2003 (UTC)
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Well, I see that this was, in fact, an article at one point.  If anyone wants to contribute, please do - there's much that could be done here. john 07:04 3 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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What if anything can we add concerning the local princes here in Saudi Arabia? Some are HRH and others are just HH. There must be some sort of system.
Paul, in Saudi
:Hmm, no idea.  I'd imagine something like children of a King are "HRH", and others are "HH", but don't quote me on that.  john 18:34, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various 

message: Templates Infobox hrhstyles, Infobox scotlandkingstyles, Infobox_UKkingstyles and Infobox consortstyles have been listed for deletion. To comment on this, visit Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. — OwenBlacker 03:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Infobox hrhstyles]] etc 

message: The article states that members of the Imperial house of Austria bore the traditional style "königliche und kaiserliche Hoheit". However, I just came across the style "kaiserliche und königliche Hoheit". Could someone back up this statement with a proper source. Gugganij 18:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is probably just a case of someone mixing the order up. They mean the same thing, basically. Charles 18:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archdukes of Austria 

message: In the Hohenzollern family, how come only the heir was given the style Imperial and Royal Highness?  Why not the whole family like the Habsburgs?  Emperor001 (talk) 19:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because in the German Empire, only the German Emperor, German Empress, German Crown Prince and German Crown Princess held titles of imperial status, much like in the United Kingdom where the king and queen were Emperor and Empress of India without the rest of the family having Indian titles. The Prussian Royal Family did not have the titles "German Prince" or "Prince of Germany" and therefore did not constitute part of the Imperial Family unless they had one of the four previously mentioned titles. The heir of the family, as titular German Emperor, is entitled to an imperial style. Charles 22:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hohenzollern Heir

message: I have suggested merging The Most High, Noble and Potent Prince and The Most Noble and Puissant Prince to Royal and noble styles#Noble styles in the United Kingdom and Hochwohlgeboren to Royal and noble styles#Noble styles in Germany, simply because those pages are this page is covered entirely by the scope of this article and they are little more than stubs which are is little more than a stub which is unlikely to expand further than what they are it is now. Unlike Highness, which has many, many derivatives, these styles are relatively few and this style is a single, simple form with few derivatives best dealt with on this page. Charles 22:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All done. Charles 22:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Undone now, apparently. Cameron, please be sure to post on this page. Charles 16:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Hochwohlgeboren has been, and still is, an important part of German society. It merits an article of its own and should not be merged (especially if one doesn't transfer all the information so as to make sure that nothing goes lost). --Cameron (t|p|c) 16:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: If that is of any relevance here, the current styling of French nobility is the following :
* Members of the royal family : Monseigneur
* Dukes : Monsieur le Duc
* Other nobility titles : depending on who adresses them; another member of the nobility (or socially similar persons) would call them Monsieur, other people would call them Monsieur + their title (Monsieur le Marquis, Monsieur le Comte, etc.). The latter being however very seldom used nowadays  
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2FDA:B5E0:FC34:F0B3:9580:7384 (talk) 22:20, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Style 

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The Prince part is obscure. Is this about foreign princes? Or is it obsolete because there are (now) no non-royal princes in Britain? —Tamfang (talk) 22:56, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: There never have been any non royal UK princes. There was/is an ultra formal style of address where certain peers were styled 'prince' but they were not actual princes its was merely a style. Garlicplanting (talk) 11:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  nobility bearing the title of "Prince" (who are not royalty of highness) 

message: Please note My Lord' cannot be a translation for Monseigneur, even if Lord is a translation for Seigneur. Monseigneur is used to style people of high rank (princes and, after the 19th c., bishops), while Mylord is used for non-royal noblemen. As it happens, "my lord" is never translated in French, as it would confuse a french speaker. Same works for "monseigneur". Sir for Monsieur is even more confusing, as in english Sir is never used in conjunction with a title ("Sir Duke" does not exist). 217.167.255.177 (talk) 07:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations from French