Talk:American Idol controversies

message: A posting about a contrroversy keeps getting deleted because a user does not like the source (who works for the Howard 100).  The source is not Howard Stern but rather Steve Langford a credible "real" news reporter who works for Sirius (On Stern's Channel).  The source is listed, it's a real news source, it's up to the reader to decided if they trust the source.
:As I said on the anon's talk page, it doesn't really work that way. The whole idea of reliable sources is that the information has gone through internal checks. That's why the more sources report on something, the more likely that we will use it. One source on a radio show is not nearly enough. If we reported stuff like that, we'd become essentially a rumor-mongering message board. I respect Stern. I do. But. I don't think any newsperson involved with him is unbiased. If reliable news outlets report on this, great. Include it. Until then, it's a gloryfied rumor. Besides, as I stated on the user's talk page, next week is "home" week on Idol. Film crews follow the contestants home and film them around town, with family, etc. I have a feeling that the crew was just there to prep that segment. But again, if other sources say otherwise, include it. Otherwise, it's one radio show reporting it. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 23:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

message: By telling their audience to vote for Sanjaya Malakar. Somebody post this in the main article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.142.59.62 (talk) 15:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VoteForTheWorst.com and Howard Stern are ruining American Idol

message: This article was nominated for deletion on March 18, 2006. The discussion can be found here. A number of people thought the article should be merged with American Idol, which could perhaps be discussed below. Flowerparty■ 02:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion discussion

message: "Not showing up" for whatever reason is not controversial. Its just "not showing up". All very unsourced and trivial actually. Section needs cleaning up. --Eqdoktor 09:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People are voted off the show one at a time.  Of course there can be an all-girl, or all-boy finale, if all of the boys or all of the girls are voted off first.  In Season 2 there was an all-boy finale, with Clay and Ruben.  In Season 3 there was an all-girl finale, with Diana and Fantasia. -- Moondigger 20:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And there have been all-male finales the last two years.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contestants section 

message: Section on Ruben Studdard/Clay Aiken vote controversy says that 230 million of 24 million votes were potentially dropped - this cannot be true - does anyone know the correct number?
--Thomasdelbert 03:11, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 24 million votes were counted.  More than 230 million calls were dropped, which are potential votes.  I've changed the wording in that section from "votes" to "calls" to make this more clear. -- Moondigger 04:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccuracy in Ruben Studdard/Clay Aiken vote

message: The section on career control gives no in-line citations for any information given. This should either be tagged in the article or corrected by citing the sources. TennysonXII (talk) 05:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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message: Alexis Grace wasn't actually voted out in the week which she was assigned the IDOLS-36 number, and was in fact voted out a week later in the Top 11 round. I'm not sure how to clean this up, because although there were concerns were placed around the fact that she was assigned an unusual number for the Top 13 week, it didn't actually affect her in the competition. The source cited was actually written the week before Alexis was voted out of the show. Astharis (talk) 12:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the entire section titled "Season 8 Phone Numbers" should be deleted because there was no true controversy and the paragraph only talks about "fears" of a problem. Jmac1962 (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexis Grace Voting "Controversy"? 

message: "signing the contract is optional but a requirement if they want to participate in the competition." 
It is part of a sentence in the Career Control section, and is one of the most contradictory statements I think I've ever read. Signing the contract to enter the competition is optional but to enter the competition you have to sign it ???? -__- Dylan (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this sentence for real ? 

message: This should be mentioned because Ms. Toscano's elimination is very similar to the Season 9 Siobhan Magnus. Many say that they will never watch the show again. There are reliable sources. I've heard reports that a voting glitch (online) may have been discovered.
Aeverine Frathleen Nieves (talk) 08:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The section has been added a couple of times, without any reliable sources to show how it is a controversy.  The only similar situations listed in this article are Chris Daughtry's elimination and Siobhan Magnus's elimination, although in both of those cases they are listed because it was not just a shocking elimination and that there were irregularities in recorded messages or a wrong number posted on an official site.  This is the first I have heard of a voting glitch for Pia and I have read quite a bit about it on fan message boards.  And looking now through google, the voting glitch is sourced to Radar Online, not a reliable source, with the title "EXCLUSIVE: Could Voting Glitch Have Caused 'American Idol' Pia Toscano's Early Demise?", so they are not even claiming anything definitive, just speculation from one person who more than likely did not type in the right code for the vote to be accepted. Aspects (talk) 21:50, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

text: While I think you could make the case of the voting system being unfair, it would have to be in general instead of discussing one specific contestant being eliminated, since they were all eliminated under the same conditions.  You make a lot of assumptions of voting behavior with nothing to back up these claims, making this original research. VoteFair.org is not a reliable, third party source and you have a conflict of interest in trying to add a section based on it. Aspects (talk) 15:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 10 [[Pia Toscano]] Vote-off 

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