Talk:Crowbar

message: * Anyone know where the name Crowbar came from? Why Crow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.150.130 (talk • contribs) 09:08, 15 September 2005
* See this: http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/crowbar.asp Kieff | Talk 12:58, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of name

message: I think it would be of interest to mention the era and area in which the crowbar first appeared.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.36.148.40 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 27 March 2006
I second that NoItAl 05:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: * Is a Crowbar also called a Jimmy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MartinRudat (talk • contribs) 12:29, 18 April 2006
* I know a crowbar as a long (6 feet or so) bar, with a chisel-point, and a jemmy bar as a two or three-foot bar, with both a chisel point, and a splayed hook for removing nails. I've used both for lifting and shifting heavy stuff, but only the jemmy bar for opening wooden boxes and removing nails. --Martin Rudat(T|@|C) 11:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crowbar vs Jemmy 

message: * Martin is actualy correct - a Crowbar is a Long, Straight bit of metal, with a chisel point. The Type of "Crowbar" Discussed in this Article Is actualy called a "Wrecking Bar" - The reason that the article is called "Crowbar" is thahttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crowbar_%28tool%29&action=edit§ion=3t Wrecking bars are incorrectly known as Crowbars in the common vernacular. Churba 16:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrected Error 

message: * I restructured the etymology section. previously it started with the false version, tells them its false, assures them its false and then tells the correct history.  To add more credence to the actual history and give it a less pleading tone I rearranged it to make the true statement first followed by a mention of the false history.  I tried to clean up the wording as well but it might need some refinement.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmkrantz (talk • contribs) 09:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology phrasing 

message: Would the be any interest in a (arguably) better picture that shows the flat-end?  It would be easy to produce. 66.191.19.217 (talk) 01:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will work on getting another photo created. Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 16:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added today. Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 21:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better picture? 

message: An I-beam type cross section does not increase stiffness.  What it does do is maintain stiffness at a lower weight.  If we're comparing cross sections of equivalent stiffness what you'd get from a I cross section is significantly lower weight per unit length.  I think that the comparison is far too complicated to reduce to such a simple statement of an I shaped beam is stiffer, especially because it's only really stiffer in one direction, and is less stiff in most other directions when compared to a solid rod.  There are also the differences in stiffness as a function of loading axis due to cross sectional differences between hexagonal, circular and square rods.  Probably best to just leave it out, if they want to know what's going on, they can look up I-beams.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.210.18.163 (talk) 20:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross Section 

message: There used to be a short section about how the crowbar in featured in a number of zombie films, video games, and the Zombie Survival Guide.  It was removed by an anon IP with no reason given.  I think it might be good to have back, but thought I'd post first.  Thoughts? 66.191.19.217 (talk) 01:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see a sort section and/or mention of said genre. Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 00:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zombie Section 

message: I've cut out the second and third paragraphs of the etymology section, which said this:
:The reality of the term has nothing at all to do with crows, crow’s feet, or crow’s beaks. The term comes to English via the Nordic languages….probably as far back as Viking settlements in England.
:The term refers to a cow’s foot. In Danish a cow is a kue. In Norwegian a cow is a ku. In Swedish a cow is called a ko and is pronounced “coo” like a dove sounds. And a crowbar today in Swedish is a kofot….a “cow’s foot.” And one must mention that the bar’s pulling end  [two fingers around a nail] resemble a cow’s foot and thus the English derivation of crowbar has nothing to do at all with the crow, but with cows or a ko. Our crowbar is named after a cow’s foot. This is the true etymology of the word.
This is correct as far as the Nordic etymology goes, but the English explanation is lacking.  Sources like the OED (crow-bar; crow, note sense 5a) don't speak to it, but identify the first component with the bird name "crow".  And the insertion of a spurious /r/ in the first onset, as this derivation needs, would be quite exceptional.  
For that matter the paragraph is inexpertly written and gives the impression of its author not being familiar with sound change and regular cognacy; the observation seems to be "look, don't these sound similar".  Could well be original speculation.  4pq1injbok (talk) 02:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doubtful etymology 

message: how come crowbars are on busses?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.226.129 (talk) 01:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean on electrical busses? EEng (talk) 12:07, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  crow bar 

message: *indexing pry bar
*Kwick Gripper - it is the same in function to Cat’s claw pry bars that are designed primarily for removing embedded or headless nails according to 
*crescent tools bull bar - maybe subtype of heavy-duty pry bar Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 11:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other types or more notable subtypes 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. There is consensus shared by supporters and opposers that examining usage does not yield a conclusive primary topic, so we turn to long-term significance to see if it can tip the scales. Consensus also found that the tool here has a decisive edge on the long-term significance department, and thus the tool is primary. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:49, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 1 May 2022