Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Ferick

message: It should be noted that User:Ferick has been blocked for 3RR. See his talk page. Regards, E  Asterion u talking to me? 09:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 3RR

message: :It is interesting to read how self-proclaimed nationalists call someone else who tries to be objective for a nationalist. I understand that Serbian wikis do not want Albanians here, because than it will be easer to spread the Serbian government approved propaganda. Most of the Serbs editing the Kosovo article have never lived in Kosovo, most of them even visited. I am half Albanian, and half ........(a country in Western Europe), and I dislike nationalists since they have destroyed the Balkans, but I am convinced that Ferick is not one of them. It is easy to say something that is understood as nationalistic, when you have so much polarization and trolling, like in the Kosovo related articles.
:Once again, I strongly recommend letting Ferick again be a part of Wikipedia. Albanians are underrepresented here in the Wikipedia, while Serbians overrepresented.
I am against nationalists both in the Serbian and Albanian side.
:UNBLOCK FERICK --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Noah30 (talk • contribs) 07:11, 7 August 2006
This statement was made on the project page by Noah30, I've moved it here because he already made an outside view and discussion should be on this talk page. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 08:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Outside view by Noah30

message: So far most of the outside views have been given by editors who are not at all outside of this dispute, but who have been involved in editing Kosovo-related articles a lot. How are views like that treated here? Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 15:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outside views 

message: An anonymous user has posted this to the RfC and this to my talk page. Somebody - probably someone we know - is trolling in an apparent attempt to smear me as anti-Muslim. Check out the anon user's edit history. Last week the same user made a series of edits to Kosovo, reverting it to Ferick's Albanian-nationalist version. I believe this is the same person who also edited around the same time from 172.214.0.245, 81.132.186.22 and 87.86.8.3. The odds are that this is Ferick himself. I think the comments need to be removed from the RfC - I'll ask on the administrator's noticeboard (as it's not something we should do, given our own involvement in this dispute). -- ChrisO 18:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I noticed that addition to the RfC. It was already removed by Noah30, but I restored it, only because I feel an indepedent editor should do that, not someone who expressed an opinion here. Also, that user has made questionable edits to Kosovo and Kosovo Liberation Army just now. However, I do want to take distance from the suggestion it was Ferick himself, there is no way to prove that at the moment and there are many other people here with similar partisan opinions. Also, this edit:  is not likely to be made by Ferick himself. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 18:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure who is behind this but neither those comments (I doubt it is Ferick, considering the effort he went through to clear his name after the autoblock) nor Hipi Zhdripi's can be taken seriously. One for the reasons mention by ChrisO, the other for attacking anyone else with a different view. I have reverted a few of the trollish edits to both articles. Regards, E  Asterion u talking to me? 18:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Asterion, you suggested on my talk page that it might be Hipi zdripi. I rather doubt that, considering how limited Hipi's English is; on the other hand, the edit summaries from multiple anonymous IP addresses, of which this is the latest, are very much in Ferick's style. The fact that this particular IP has a history of making pro-Albanian edits before suddenly making pro-Serb edits strongly suggests that someone is playing games. -- ChrisO 18:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ChrisO, I don't think I was clear enough: This was Hipi Zhdripi (editing the infobox, not the main article). Sorry for the misunderstanding, it was late and I had no much time to spare at that time. E  Asterion u talking to me? 18:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: PS: Hipi's got a long history of edits using 172 aol proxy IPs, though I may be wrong. (I'm not saying he's the same as the 208 ip) E  Asterion u talking to me? 18:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: PPS: Should we request a checkuser? E  Asterion u talking to me? 18:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If so, had we better be quick? I understood that was only possible for 24 hours? – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 18:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good plan. If it really is a registered user who is trolling using anonymous proxies it would be good to know and take appropriate action. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 19:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I have to lough when ChrisO blames an Albanian for Anti-Albanian edits. The vandal 208.3.69.196  should be blocked imedietly. He or she is most probebly Serb.
I hope I have not misunderstood something. Were you talking about the same ip address? I am new and make maybe some mistakes in the beginning.--Noah30 20:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anonymous troll 

message: It appears that we actually have two trolls. The person behind the 172.214.0.245, 81.132.186.22 and 87.86.8.3 IP addresses is in fact User:Tonycdp, who has posted to this RfC in support of Ferick. See User talk:ChrisO/Tonycdp for evidence. He's been told not to persist with this behaviour. The other troll, who has been using 208.3.69.196, appears to be a different individual based in the United States; possibly Ferick, though I may revise this view as the evidence comes in. -- ChrisO 23:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Troll update