Talk:Czech Republic/Archive 1

message: :It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. From Czech Republic to Czechia, counting 4 support votes to 9 oppose. –Hajor 03:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For all those who oppose the move, take a look at this. —  ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 14:09, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

text: For all those who support the move, take a look at this.
I wonder why Americans cannot simply take the time to write Czech Republic. - Probably for the same reason people all over the world write "America" instead of "The United States of America" =) - TheMightyQuill 22:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move

message: # Support moving this country's article to the correct name Czechia.   —Michael Z. 2005-09-26 17:49 Z
# Strongly support the move to Czechia. —  ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 18:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

message: # The name "Czechia" is not normally used in English.  That there is no good reason for this does not change anything.  john k 19:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose

message: I tried to make my point here. As I stated there, it's not a matter of "official name" — official names of countries are not the ones they are usually referred by. —  ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 22:36, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For all those who oppose the move, take a look at this. —  ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 14:09, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

text: For all those who support the move, take a look at this.
I wonder why Americans cannot simply take the time to write Czech Republic. - Probably for the same reason people all over the world write "America" instead of "The United States of America" =) - TheMightyQuill 22:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I favor moving to the name Czechia.  The unfamiliarity of some is not a reason to use an incorrect name.  This is what redirects are for, right?
The current second paragraph is painful to read.  It seems disrespectful, as if we were saying, "The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 announced that the name Czechia is to be used ..., but we don't care."  The problem is not the phrasing, but the fact of it. Pekinensis 19:16, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second it. Miraceti 19:23, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Me too, but this will probably entail an edit war ...Juro 22:28, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately, you will not be able to put this over. Juro 15:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean it would be reverted?  I won't do it if there is not a majority here.  If there is, I hope the minority will respect that.--Doric Loon 09:10, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text:  The problem is that I do not know whether they are a majority, but there are just certain people here who always revert any change towards "Czechia", because "they" do not use it...Maybe you should just try to move the page, let's see what happens, but I am quite sure it will be reverted...Juro 19:06, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: The point is that the English name is both Czech Republic and Czechia, but people do not know that and hence are using Czech Republic only. Most of the 6000 occurencies are a result of a huge and quite obvious error [because there is no reason for not using Czechia - a form that is correct, desired, does not hurt anybody and is short], that the Wikipedia has been supporting here for years, because its policy is basically to use anything having a majority in Google, although Google is a very bad reference, usually propagating popular mistakes.  Juro 15:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm a native English speaker and I use it, therefore it is AN English form.--Doric Loon 09:16, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to move (January 2005 - May 2005 discussion)

message: In regards to some people considoring Czech and Czechoslavkian to be the same id like to bring up the issue of lineage. Is Czech Rep. or Slavakia the former Czechoslavkia that was created after WWI and as a result of the Great War. Its a East Germany meets West Germany situation because some would ask if it was East Germany that was formally Prussia and rouge or was it West Germany that  was forced to sign the Treaty of Versaillies. Can Slovakia list its date of independence as 1918? Both countries cant have the heritage and history. Because Nazi Germany only annexed the Czech part of Czechoslavakia and left the remainder that means that Czechoslakia was still Czech and Slovak because half remained to carry on the link between present and past. Slavakia lost WW II but did it independently so perhaps Wikipedia should list them as having Czechoslakia as their precurcor alone.
Vital component 4:22 am May 3rd
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I'd just removed this remark:
:(the remainder of a once larger minority)
from demography. During and after WWII not only Bohemian Germans were expelled, but also most of Bohemian Jews and many Roma murdered in extermination camps, part of Hungarian population mostly of Slovakia was exchanged with Hungary and other things happened. I dont see other reason for that remark other than promoting German expellees agenda. Wikimol 22:12, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your Heading Here 

message: Does anyone know a source for the religion statistics (Roman Catholic 27%, Protestant 1%, Czechoslovak Hussites 1%, atheists 59%, the remainder uncertain)? The CIA Factbook gives different numbers (Roman Catholic 39.2%, Protestant 4.6%, Orthodox 3%, other 13.4%, atheist 39.8%), which sound more reasonable to me. --152.66.212.151 16:52, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2001 census, see . Your numbers appear to come from the 1991 census (Czech only PDF:  ) though note that the 13% "other" is actually Not Identified, i. e. undeclared, and the Orthodox number seems still too high. 1991 was comparatively shortly after the fall of Communism and religion had a lot of sympathies so people declared for it it even without attending church regularly etc.; however, since then especially the Catholic church fell out of popular favour. The newer numbers are rather closer to the "true state" - we're a very atheist country. --Malyctenar 11:27, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religions 

message: The article on Franz Kafka has been listed to be improved on Wikipedia: This week's improvement drive. Add your vote there if you want to support the article.--Fenice 06:17, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement drive

message: I came to this article to find out what the 'not-to-miss' foods are.  Every country has a particular 'master dish' (apart, of course from my native England).  Unfortunately, I'm only going for a long weekend, but I'll do as much 'research' as I can, and maybe start a 'cuisine' stub :-) ChrisRed 08:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture\Food 

message: The current information stating that the Czech Republic was formed in the 9th century is incorrect and nothing more than political propaganda, an effort to create a history for the Czech Republic, a multi-national (German, Czech, Silesian, Slovak, Moravian, Jewish) state which never existed before 1993. If there really was a "Czech Republic Kingdom" during the 9th century, I would like you to point out a map from the 9th century that had the "Czech Republic" on it. The name "Czech," replacing Bohemian, which Bohemia was a German-speaking state until the 17th century, can be found in writtings from no later than the 18th century. Before the 18th century, the area of today's Czech Republic was mostly German-speaking (3 million Sudeten Germans from Bohemia were expelled by the Czech government after WWII) and was usually referred to as Bohemia, other times was mentioned as a part of Austria, Silesia, Moravia, or Slovakia (the current region in SE Czech Republic called "Moravian Slovakia" is evidence of this). The statement that the Czech Republic "regained" its "independence" on October 28, 1918 is inaccurate as well because that was the date of the formation of the Czecho-Slovak Republic (called incorrectly Czechoslovakia for short in the English language). The Czecho-Slovak Republic was NOT an independent Czech state (notice that the name was "Czecho-Slovakia") but a union among the Slovak and Czech states, meaning Czechs were NOT independent. The only time in history that the Czech Republic was declared independent was on January 1, 1993. Mike Jirousek
:If you actually did your homework, you'd realise that the "Lands of the Czech Crown" (Země koruny České) appear on many maps around the middle of the last millenia, and that the Czech lands had not spoken German until the Czech lands became a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and even then Czech remained the language spoken by most communities. I also don't see how 3 out of 12 million is a majority. Also the statement that the Czech Republic regained its independence on October 28, 1918 is completely accurate as it became independent again, after being a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Your claim the Czech Republic has no history is contradicted by the fact I can trace my family line to the village of Mikulčice which was the capital of the Great Moravian Empire, and as Moravia is a part of Czech Republic, this is another example of Czech history.In your statement you reffer to a place called Moravian Slovakia.  The region "Moravian Slovakia" is informally called so due to it's proximity to Slovakia, and the name didn't catch on usage until the mid-1800s. You are obviously under the impression that the Czech Republic and Bohemia are separate entities. No, Bohemia is a predecessor and now the main part of the latter. -- Hexagon1 11:14, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact, that present-day English name of this country ("Czech Republic") differs from its traditional and officially obsolete one ("Bohemia") doesn't make this country the youngest in Europe. Its Czech/Bohemian name ("Čechy" or "Česko") is the same from its very beginning in the 9th century, which should be enough for you to realize that your original hypothesis is completely wrong. Qertis 12:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Jirousek is a fool, and clearly is pushing some weird nationalist agenda of some sort (I can't figure out what nationalist agenda, though).  I will add that the Czech Republic quite clearly has exactly the same boundaries as the "Lands of the Bohemian Crown" which remained in Habsburg control after 1742.  In that sense, it is quite an old political entity, dating back to the high middle ages.  That said, I will take issue with a few points that Hexagon makes - 1) the "Austro-Hungarian Empire" did not exist until 1867.  There were certainly Germans in Bohemia and Austrian Silesia before that.  If what is meant is that there were not Germans until the territory came under Habsburg control in the 16th century, I don't think this is true either.  My understanding is that the Germans began settling the "Sudetenland" in the later middle ages - under the later Premyslids, or perhaps under the Luxembourg kings.  There was, of course, further Germanization after the Thirty Years War in the 17th century.  2) While I think that asserting continuity between the Czech Republic and the Bohemian Crown is perfectly appropriate, I do not think that we should assert continuity back to Great Moravia, which is separated from the foundation of the Czech state by some years. john k 14:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Exactly, difference between Czech and Bohemian exist only in english language. In czech (a much more complicated language) they are the same. I can show you tons of documents that has word "Cechove" in it, literally translated as "Czechs" ! I completely agree with Hexagon. Jirousek is wrong on many levels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.77.100.41 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to say that the Bohemian lands don't 'belong' to the Czechs? Politically they do. End of story. And there is no other way that land can 'belong' to a nation then politically. In all other ways the only thing that matters is who inhabits the land and it's inhabited by mostly Czechs. And start signing your posts, as no-one will take you seriously. -- Hexagon1 04:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech Republic's incorrect formation and independence 

message: I am not aware of any map in English, French or German, that would have ever used the term "Czech Lands" or "Czechia" or "Czech Kingdom" before 1918. Even Masaryk himself used "Bohemia" or "Bohéme" or "Böhmen" in his English, French and German correspondence. The reason why the term was used in the Czech language before 1918 is simply due to the reason that the Czech translation for Bohemia is "Chechy". During sport events supporters of the Czech Republic shout "Cechy, Cechy" to this day. 
Hence the correct terms from a historical point of view, if the current Czech name is taken as the basis, would be "Bohemia" in English, Bohéme in French and Böhmen in German.
However after 1918 Czechoslovakia wanted to differentiate itself from its historic predecessor "Bohemia" by creating a linguistic nation state similar to Germany, Russia or Hungary, which in my opinion was a major mistake and a main reason why the country broke apart in 1938 as it excluded Germans, Hungarians and Poles (40% of the population in total). In 1918 Masaryk and Benes suddenly started to promote and introduce the name "Czechoslovakia" into the English language. Hence the multilingual Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia were suddenly to become a "monolingual state of the Czechs". After 1918 the terms Tschechei was introduced in German. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.2.144.114 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, czech lands and bohemia are the same. The difference between "Czech" and "Bohemian" exists only in english. The reason why Masaryk used "Bohemia" is probably because the word Bohemia was better known. Czechoslovakia never wanted to differentiate itself from it's historical predecessor of Bohemia, however it is important to note that Bohemia was predecessor only partially - only of the czech part. --62.77.100.41 10:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Czech Lands" 

message: The name "Tschechei" has nothing to do with Hitler and Nazism what so ever. It is also in no way derogative. It appeared first in 1918 after Czechoslovakia was formed. In fact only left wingers used it initially as the political right in Germany and Austria rejected the new state. However the very fact that it was used in the German language it was later rejected by the Czechs and I believe that this is the only reason why Czechia is now rejected as a state name and "Czech Republic" used instead. While the German language is more flexible, and the term "Tschechei" could be changed to "Tschechien" to fulfill Czech wishes not to use "Tschechei", English does not provide the same option, hence "Czechia" is still rejected.
All in all we are dealing with the typical problem in the Czech Republic: Teh society is still unable to cope with it's partly German past, and it's historic (forced) interconnection with the German cultural area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.2.144.114 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this is completely wrong. The term Tschechei and "Resttschechei" was used by Hitler and the Nazis. (It was by coincidence, yes, but that is irrelevant, because it just was used by them.)  That's why it is considered derogatory (being derogotary has something to do with emotions). The term Tschechien, however, is an older (actually the original) alternative and was not used din the 1930s and by Hitler that's why it was chosen by German linguists in 1992 after consulations with Czechs. Juro 07:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hitler simply used this term as it was the German name of a part of Czechoslovakia and commonly used in Germany and Austria at the time. in fact it still is used in popular language. It is not derogatory at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.73.207.125 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tschechei 

message: If the Kingdom of Bohemia really belonged to Czechs, then why did you Czechs change the name of your country from Bohemia to "Czech Republic." If Bohemia was Czech, then why does the name come from the German tongue? Understand that I am openminded to these, but so far there is not the slightest fact that proves your opinion is accurate. It you can show me for example some really old document that has the word "Czech" or any translation of it (Cesi, Cesko, etc.), I will re-think it.
The name "Czechia" doesn't exist on the jerseys of Czech hockey teams, soccer teams, etc... In fact, using the name "Czechia" would be oppressive and arrogant for the millions of non-Czechs (Germans, Moravians, Slovaks, and Silesians) that live in what has been called for the last 12 years the Czech Republic. The Czech Republic has no flag, coat-of-arms, history, and name for the territory it occupies.
*The flag, before 1993, was the flag of Czecho-Slovakia. The blue color on the flag represents Slovakia, and is therefore oppressive and imperialistic. The Czech Republic has no right to use the flag of another country.
*The coat-of-arms of the Czech Republic never existed before 1993. It consists of the coat-of-arms of many different (non-Czech inhabited) territories such as Silesia, which is a 1400 year old state that was divided between Bohemia and Poland. It also consists of the coat-of-arms of Moravia, a territory which belongs to Slovakia (www.slovakia.org).
*The name "Czech Republic" was used for the first time in history in 1969 and was accepted on January 1, 1993. There were territories located on the present-day Czech Republic, but they were not Czech! Naming the Frankish Empire a "czech" state would be like naming the Roman Empire a "hungarian" state. Just because the Frankish Empire included parts of today's Czech Republic, doesn't mean that the Frankish Empire belongs to Czech history. The word "Czech," being found in writings no earlier than the 18th century, can not be applied to states that existed on the territory of present-day Czech Republic before the 18th century, such as Bohemia.
*As it is known, there is no name for the territory that the Czech Republic occupies. The name "Czechia" doesn't exist. The Czech Republic, being a multi-national state, consists of Bohemia (occupied by Czech, Germans, and Jews), Moravia (occupied by Slovaks and Moravians), Sudetenland (80% occupied by Germans), and Silesia (occupied by Silesians, Poles, and Czechs).
Mike Jirousek
:It's a nonsense at all! Zanatic 20:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Besides on Wikipedia, the name "czechia" doesn't exist 

message: I have only skimmed superficially the debate and vote above, but I'm thinking that if the government is really adament about (re-)introducing the name Czechia or Czechy as a short-hand alternative for Czech Republic, then it ought to be given due prominence above the Country Infobox. Compare Russia/Russian Federation and Portugal/Portuguese Republic and Mexico/United Mexican States and Greece/Hellene Republic. I suppose there are in fact a handful of countries that English speakers will routinely refer to as "[adjective] Republic", either for reasons of disambiguity or for reasons of political correctness (such as Dominican Republic, Central African Republic, Republic of Ireland and Democratic Republic of the Congo). //Big Adamsky 02:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Czechia/Czechy versus Czech Republic

message: I've removed this paragraph. It doesn't say anything about Demographics.
In 2005 Czech Prime Minister Jiri Paroubek announced an initiative to publicise and formerly recognise the deeds of Sudeten German Anti-Nazis, including members of the German minority. Although the move was received positively by most Sudeten German expelees and the German minority, there has been criticism that the initiative is limited to Anti-Nazis who actively fought for the Czechoslovak state, but not Anti-Nazis in general. The German minority in particular also expected some financial compensation for their mistreatment after the War.
Maybe there should be special section about Sudeten German issues, so people won't write these things everywhere.
I also rearranged some other sentences and paragraphs about bilingual signs and replaces some words with less strong meaning. "are forced to" and "fears repercussions" sounds like Czech Republic is police state which actively intimidates its citizens.
Podlesh 09:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics? 

message: The country is sometimes refered to as Czechia. Qero has taken this line out five times now. That will not bring us anywhere.  Please discuss here before changing again. Piet 15:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed previously. Just check Google News to see what serious sources use. I get 13,400 hits for "Czech Republic" and 9 for "Czechia". Obviously "sometimes" is an overstatement here. And one of those 9 hits is an article titled "Czech Republic still lacks one-word name in English" . Qero 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czechia again 

message: Is the dissolution of Czech/Slovakia best referred to as "dismemberment", as in the country infobox? 68.39.174.238 23:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously "dismemberment" is inappropriate and POV. There are other problems with that info box, too. It shouldn't say that the Czech Republic was formed in the 9th century. That isn't true. It was formed on 1 January 1993 by an Act of Parliament. --Smithfarm 11:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dismemberment" ? 

message: Live and let live. For now, CR will be kept here. When you see CR on Wikipedia you don't change it to Czechia and vice-versa. When editing, just leave what-ever the article uses. +Hexagon1 (talk)  11:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No thanks. "Czechia" is not an English word (it's not in actual use, it's in no English dictionary, and the Czech government has no authority to create new English words) so there will be no "live and let live". Oruj 13:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What's with the hostility? You come up with a better compomise then. The Czechia-supporters won't just disappear because you want them to. And the Czech government has every right to create English words, just like you or me, as there is no official body controlling the language. Whether they catch on is another matter. If no-one's allowed to create or modify English words, how did it evolve from Old English to today's English then? Magical lepricons of DOOM? :) +Hexagon1 (talk)  06:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: "According to [document number this and that], the recommended short form of the country's name in English is Czechia. This form, however, is not in widespread use. In the Czech Republic itself there is significant opposition to a proposed short form (Česko) and, though it has gained a degree of acceptance in spoken Czech, it is hardly ever used in writing."
--Smithfarm 15:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Policy about the CR/Czechia issue

message: From the IP address beginning with 71.99. there are some vandalistic changes here and on the main page. The same happened in the German Wikipedia, and quite extensive in the Czech Wikipedia, where there was a range block for 71.99. It is an IP from Florida. See here. -jkb- 16:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: read: main page, not Main page, so it means main page Czech Republic in contrary to this talk page. -jkb- 08:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Main page its main page! Watch your Words! This IS personal attack and lie! I repeat: You can't change the Truth by posting Lies!  Czech
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correcting its not vandalism.
blocking 71.99.. is not acceptable by wiki policy. 
there is more users, than people living in  Czech Republic!
jkb is PRO-CESKO
I am   PRO-Ceska republika
that is not vandalism. but conflict of interest.
Note >jkb<  is another German speaking user rnforcing usage of Czechia or CESK0 on wiki wolrdwide.
Czech
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the same happens at the present on approximately one dozen of wikipedias, see my notices above. -jkb- 16:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism by 71.99.xxxxx 

message: Yesterday I updated section "Name" to reflect the current situation when the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs is clearly not promoting Czechia and as a proof I recommend to visit official web page of the Czech Republic by the ministry. My text was:
:The official name is Czech Republic. Colloquial Czech single word name is Česko, disputed by many Czech people but frequently used by others. See Names of the Czech Republic and Czech lands.
My edit was reverted without any explanation or comment by User:Juro.
I am returning my edit back because there was no proof given that my edit was wrong.   I suggest that all who would like to use Wikipedia as a place for promoting Czechia visit official web of the Czech Republic (www.czech.cz) first.
--Cepek 08:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 suggested that the name Czechia be official alternative in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions, but this has not caught on in English usage. The official website of the Czech Republic (www.czech.cz) run by the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not using the name Czechia in 2006; its Czech equivalent Česko is disputed by many Czechs, but frequently used by others. See Names of the Czech Republic and Czech lands.
Changing many to some is futile, try simple google search
In a case of another revert by Juro I am going to call for assistance the Mediation Cabal (as the first step)
--Cepek 07:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

text: (zastaralý výraz) Česko, -a s. Čechy, Čechy a Morava (Na rozdíl od Slovensko); nově ČSR (od r. 1969)
[(obsolete) Bohemia, Bohemia and Moravia (as in contrast to Slovakia), (newly) Czech Socialist Republic (since 1969)] ... association of Česko with the Czech Socialist Republic is enough for many Czechs enough to consider it discredited. ... but there are no doubts about Česko being a Czech word.
But here we are talking about Czechia. My objection was that in spite of all official documents even the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not seem to support Czechia today.
The question is if this detailed comment should be given here (should it be also explained here that Česko had a different meaning than the one more commonly used today? I don't think so!) My opinion is that all this  would better fit into Names_of_the_Czech_Republic.
--Cepek 16:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro-Czechia activists 

message: ... so we have a problem. To solve it, lets state the facts first:
# The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 suggested that the name Czechia be official alternative in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions, but this has not caught on in English usage.
# in 2006 the official web of the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not using Czechia any more, see http://www.czech.cz/
These two facts are in contradiction and surely belong to the article Names of the Czech Republic. The question is, if these also belong to the article on the Czech Republic. I am sure that without full explanation these should not be given here. Thus I am reverting two recent edits by Juro back.
--Cepek 14:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Juro|Juro]] reverts again 

message: As Juro calls for information, I have added relevant information on existence of the official website of the Czech Republic, where Czechia is not used in 2006
:The Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1993 suggested that the name Czechia be official alternative in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions, but this has not caught on in English usage. The official website of the Czech Republic (www.czech.cz) run by the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not using the name Czechia in 2006; its Czech equivalent Česko is disputed by many Czechs, but frequently used by others. See Names of the Czech Republic and Czech lands.
Changing many to some is futile, try simple google search
In a case of another revert by Juro I am going to call for assistance the Mediation Cabal (as the first step)
--Cepek 07:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (zastaralý výraz) Česko, -a s. Čechy, Čechy a Morava (Na rozdíl od Slovensko); nově ČSR (od r. 1969)
[(obsolete) Bohemia, Bohemia and Moravia (as in contrast to Slovakia), (newly) Czech Socialist Republic (since 1969)] ... association of Česko with the Czech Socialist Republic is enough for many Czechs enough to consider it discredited. ... but there are no doubts about Česko being a Czech word.
But here we are talking about Czechia. My objection was that in spite of all official documents even the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not seem to support Czechia today.
The question is if this detailed comment should be given here (should it be also explained here that Česko had a different meaning than the one more commonly used today? I don't think so!) My opinion is that all this  would better fit into Names_of_the_Czech_Republic.
--Cepek 16:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Juro|Juro]] reverts once more 

message: This page redirects from CZ, which is a common abbreviation for cubic zirconia. Can we make a disambiguation page that includes cubic zirconia? Single guy 13:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. JanSuchy 14:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cubic Zirconia

message: Is anyone able to provide a reference for the motto Truth prevails? I could find no evidence that it used as a national motto; the best I found was , which states that the motto was used in the coat of arms of Czechoslovakia after its liberation in 1945. Pruneautalk 11:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is written on president's flag. --Li-sung 17:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot! Pruneautalk 22:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: Ne maš dějiny? There's no article on the history of the czech republic? It's really too bad that nothing has happened in the Czech republic since 1993, aside from joining the EU and Nato. The past 16 years must have been really boring. =) - TheMightyQuill 19:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No history? 

message: Does anyone else think this article could use a few more details, albeit, if credible? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zurkhardo (talk • contribs) 08:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barebones 

message: In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Eastern Europe at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Eastern Europe whose scope would include the Czech Republic. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed WikiProject 

message: The dissolution of Czechoslovakia was DEFINITELY on December 31 1992, NOT on January 1 1993. Please correct it in the article, I have tried once, but it has been changed back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikista (talk • contribs) 15:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not true. It was 1st January 1993. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 15:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I understand it, the last moment in which Czechoslovakia existed was 31st December 1992 at 23:59:59, and on 1st January 1993 at 00:00:00 the Czech and Slovak Republics came into being on the former territory of Czechoslovakia. +Hexagon1 (t) 12:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Good point Cinik :-) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, no. The second immediately following the transition between :58 and :59 seconds falls under the 59th second. After this second expires, the transition takes place between :59 and :00, at which point the ČSFR ceased to be and ČR and SR came into being. The transitions, by definition, take no time to happen. Sorry if this sounds complex. So, from a scientific viewpoint, the changeover happened in an infinitesimally minute unit of time, somewhere between 23:59:59:999 and 00:00:00:000. If you want, I can draw a diagram, however for the sake of everyone's sanity I suggest 1st January 1993 is used as the date. +Hexagon1 (t) 01:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Any idea why the dissolution was done like this? Just to screw with not-yet-existant wiki editors? - TheMightyQuill 03:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  As I understand it, the legislation stated something like "At midnight, 1st January 1993, the Czech and Slovak Republics come into being on the territory of the ČSFR", so it obviously stems, that the dissolution took place between the last second of 31st December 1992 and midnight of New Year's Day 1993. As the time it takes to "change over" to the next second is infinitesimally small, it becomes obvious that the dissolution was an evil plan by Xenu and psychiatrists to destroy Czechoslvoakian thetans. :) +Hexagon1 (t) 01:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: lol For what it may be worth, NGS map Europe (December 1992) mentions the following: On August 26, 1992, the leaders of Czechoslovakia agreed to the peaceful division of the country into two independent nations, scheduled to take effect January 1, 1993. - Best regards, Evv 05:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Afaik it was on New Year's Eve, so I suggest 1st January 1993. Sounds better for me. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The dissolution of Czechoslovakia 

message: Czech culture has been add to the new :Category:Germanic culture by an editor (not me - I'm trying to sort it out!). Please discuss this to ascertain whether this is appropriate or not - and act accordingly.-- Zleitzen(talk) 13:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems to be wrong category, Czechs as a Slavic people have nothing to do with Germans. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I thing it is logical. Czech kulture was developing in symbiosis with germanic culture and has many similar items... Cinik 18:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Coexistence with the other culture doesn't make a merge between those cultures. I understand what do you think and it is correct point of view, but equivalent for a Germanic culture is a Slavic culture. Our entry there is redundant so I removed it. As I saw today disappeared other countries from there, so I think original editor had a little bit hot keyboard while writing that :) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 19:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Germanic culture]]