Talk:Gresford disaster

message: --82.31.187.254 (talk) 19:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link title 

message: This article says ...closed on economic grounds.  The Gresford article says ...closed due to "geological problems".  Neither claim is provided with a reference.  "Economic grounds" can be a variety of reasons, only one of which is "geological problems". These claims could benefit from clarification. Does anyone have any reliable sources? Feline Hymnic (talk) 17:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1973 closure 

message: I just wondered whether the list should be put in its own article because of the length of the table?
It makes the page unnecessarily  long and difficult to navigate.
It's obviously very important, but it's already stated that there were more than 260 casualties, so this seems a little bit too much minutiae.
Any interested person could then use the link to see the page entitled: (for example) List of casualties of the 1934 Gresford Disaster. 
Just a thought...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.214.23 (talk) 11:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd support such a move. garik (talk) 14:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree as well. The list is also incorrect, it doesn't match the Remembrance book on the WCBC website or the other lists online. If there are no objections I'll create a new article with the list based on the Book of Remembrance.Apau98 (talk) 09:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Fully support. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Fully support, even though rather late. JDAWiseman (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: About 82 years? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of casualties 

message: Why was this moved without any discussion? It may be, technically, "better grammar", but it's a well-known enough event to merit full capitalisation in this case, surely? Svejk74 (talk) 08:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move of page

message: The comment below was posted to the article. --bonadea contributions talk 11:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment moved from article

message: Not worthy of comment in the main article, but perhaps of interesting to passing researchers, might be an auction by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, on Tuesday 2nd October 1934, “of Works Of Art presented by the Exhibitors at The Antique Dealers’ Fair for the benefit of The Mansion House Fund, In aid of dependents of Miners who lost their lives in the Gresford Colliery disaster, which will be sold without reserve”. (My picture 22176.) JDAWiseman (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to be far more detail about the Disaster Relief Fund(s) at the main article. Not sure why that does not also appear here. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I’m writing a book on Vintage Port, so have been going through Christie’s catalogues. Thinking of Wikipedia, of this auction I photographed only the title page. Christie’s allows me to post a paper copy to people, but not to send digital. If you need paper — to decide whether to add to article — I very willing to post/mail a paper copy (my contact info). JDAWiseman (talk) 17:46, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's remarkably thoughtful and generous of you, JD. I'll wait to see what other editors think about it. I guess we might see you (eventually) over at Port_wine#Vintage_port? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:51, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Subsequent to my posts in 2014, Christie’s have told me that I can re-use pictures. Hence small (394×606) and large (1578×2427). JDAWiseman (talk) 13:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christie’s auction 

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message: The Gathering the Jewels mainpage says this:
:"Gathering the Jewels is offline due to essential security maintenance.
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The link is present on many pages, but without an indication of likely offline duration, it's difficult to know whether it should be replaced or explained in more detail. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:42, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: Could there be a map? Perhaps the map in the article about the village of Gresford, but ideally one marking the colliery. And definitely with the inset showing where in Wales. (But I don’t know how to extract the map without all the village-level information.) JDAWiseman (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: A very good idea, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

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message: The coordinates as previously give come down in a housing estate a little to the south of the industrial estate.  "In the 1980s the site was redeveloped as an industrial estate." made me suspicious, and looking at the 1945 1" OS map a location slightly further North seems correct.  I've updated the coordinates accordingly, can anyone confirm this work?  Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:51, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's almost exactly right (I remember the mine buildings after closure). Svejk74 (talk) 15:04, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: Are the lyrics for the folk song "The Gresford Disaster" Roud Folk Song Index No:3089, covered by copyright, even though they were written "anonymously"? Or does that depend on when and by whom they were first published? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia takes copyright of external material seriously. See: WP:COPYOTHERS. If there is doubt, it should not be included.  The onus is to demonstrate that the material is free of copyright. Feline Hymnic (talk) 13:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The song is noted as "trad." on several recordings (eg the Albion Band. Position in the UK is that copyright in cases of unknown authorship lasts for 70 years after the work is 'made', which in this case is assumed to have been c.1935 (see Laidlaw, 1995, "The Gresford Disaster in Popular Memory", Llafur v.6 n.4)Svejk74 (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure there was any "Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC 2.0)" back in 1935? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's basically a typical anonymous broadside ballad, albeit a 20th century example'Svejk74 (talk) 14:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I'm not sure what these "doubts" about copyright are. It's now 86 years since they were anonymously written. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I can't see any doubt here. Svejk74 (talk) 15:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics