Talk:Ancient history of Afghanistan

message: This page must be a redundancy. I dislike the idea of dividing Afghanistan history into a pre and post-Islamic phase. I recognize the convenience of doing this, because Islam is in a sense the beginning of "history" in Afghanistan in regards to local sources of information. I dislike this because Afghanistan has an immense ancient signifigance as the birthplace of Monotheism with Zoroastrian or Proto-Zoroastrianism. Look at the preeminence of the Bactria Margiana Complex and sites like Gonur Tepe, the heritage of the Silk Road cities. I think Afghanistan's golden age was over by the Islamic era, and shouldn't be grouped into a prehistorical era. There are plenty of outside sources that allow us to construct Afghan History.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.122.34 (talk) 00:15, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As a Danish scholar with roots in Balkh, Afghanistan, I agree. It is impossible to divide Afghanistan in a Zoroastrian and post-Islamic history given how Afghans have intertwined their way of practicing Islam with the way they practiced Zoroastrianism. Thus, the invention of Hanafi fiqh by an Eastern Iranian whose origins were most likely from modern-day "Afghanistan." Moreover, there is the example of Mevlana Balkhi also known as "Rumi" who practiced, taught and promoted Sufism which has many added Zoroastrian elements to it. Hasan Basri, the most likely inventor of Sufism also had Persian roots. Not to mention the most important point which is that even traditional Islam argues that it is a reformation of Christianity and Judaism while adopting blatant Zoroastrian traditions and practicing. The most glaring one being the practice of cleansing oneself and praying five times per day in a certain direction. The entire practice comes from Zoroastrianism. Including the practice of "self-cleansing" through Ramadan which arguably is inspired by Behnam in Zoroastranism. CopenhagenScholar (talk) 19:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: I propose the deletion of this page

message: I remember reading that the ancient indian kingdom of Gandhara (mentioned in the Mahabharata) (related to Kandahar?) comprised of portions of present day afghanistan. Is this historically proven?
::Yes, Gandhara goes as far as Kabul and Begram. Regards PHG 11:57, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Gandhara did not go as far as Kabul and Begram proper. As noted by Encyclopedia Britannica, Gandhara is a historical region in what is now northwestern Pakistan. It corresponds to the Vale of Peshawar and having extensions into the lower valleys of the Kābul and Swāt rivers. The lower valleys of the Kabul river denotes the part in modern-day Pakistan, not Afghanistan. There is no historical evidence that Gandhara wenst as far as Kabul and Begram. Regards CopenhagenScholar 20:59, 14 Mar 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Gandhara?

message: Hello All,
I just wanted to raise a point regarding Ancient Afghanistan and the Mauryan Period. Mauryan rule was long enough and significant enough for individual mention, esp considering Alexander/Seleucid rule lasted barely 30 years versus the 120 years of Mauryan rule (Chandragupta 305BCE-Subhagasena roughly 180BCE). Perhaps we should consider a separate section. I wanted to reach out to the main contributors on this page prior to making any unilateral changes. Please let me know what you think.
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Devanampriya 18:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Mauryan Period 

message: This article makes it seem like ancient Afghanistan was everything but ARYAN HINDU WHICH MAKES NO SENSE.....Before Islam, yes there were other religions, but the entire region was the same as India = Aryans who were of ancient Hinduism....I mean if Hinduism is the oldest surviving religion, and India is right next to present day Afghanistan, then how can anyone say Hinduism/Aryans werent the oldest of Afghanistan? I mean Afghanistan is right next to India (Before the creation of Pakistan) and since there were no boarders, it doesnt make sense to say talk about Ancient Afghanistan as if it was different or seperate from ancient India.....and by the way.....Aryans did not migrate from Afghanistan to INdia.....it was all one land....THere was no invasion or migration....U cant say they were in Afghanistan and THEN went to India....It was all one land 71.119.255.31 03:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Afghanistan was part of ancient India 

message: Can anyone provide scholarly reference for this quote?
In a letter to his mother, Alexander described his encounters with the western and northern tribes (Afghans) thus: "I am involved in the land of a 'Leonine' (lion-like) and brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a wall of steel, confronting my soldier. You have brought only one son into the world, but everyone in this land can be called an Alexander.”
1. Did Alexander write a letter to his mother mentioning this?
2. Which tribes is he referring to?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.242.122 (talk) 00:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Authenticity of this Quote 

message: Under sub-category Alexander the Great, Seleucid-Mauryan rivalry, and Greco-Bactrian Rule, 330 BCE–ca. 150 BCE, they are referring to ancient Aria (now around modern day city of Herat) but when the link is clicked, a topic about music comes up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afgnadeem (talk • contribs) 22:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: Why ? There's mentions of Indus Valley Civilization but none of Helmand Civilization or little or less of BMAC which are indigeneous to modern day Afghanistan which is not the case with IVC.
I see some Indian interference in this page and it's sad, too much lacking also on "Iranian" Huns such as Kidarites or Nezaks for example. Little to no mention about Tokharistan and Tang dynasty. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:6CD6:1D6D:9C30:F765 (talk) 15:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omission of Helmand Culture/Helmand Civilization