Talk:Nikken Abe

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message: *This article is clearly biased toward the priesthood version of events!!!!!!!!! There is no mention of the anti-defamation lawsuit the Soka Gakkai won against the priesthood, nor that Abe was frequenting a prostitute at the time and LIED about it. Also not mentioned is Abe's "Operation C", C for cut, to force out Daisaku Ikeda and regain control over the lay believers. Also not included is the international and archtectural communities out-cry against the destruction of the Sho-Hondo and other buildings as marvels of modern building. --Added by 24.22.209.10 on 19 December 2005.
*04 December: Nikken Abe has resigned under not clear circumstances --Added by 80.25.30.22 on 19 December 2005.
Abe's problems with Soka Gakkai are mentioned in a manner appropriate for an encyclopedic article, and details are available via two references (links) to other articles. I've also re-organized 24.22.209.10's links to the SGI website for people who want to follow them.
If someone feels that "Operation C" and the other topics mentioned above need to be addressed, then please go ahead and do so: this is, after all, Wikipedia.
I have clarified Abe's reasons for stepping down as high priest in the sentence that mentions the fact. Or is there something "unclear" or otherwise mysterious that I'm missing about an 83-year-old man deciding to retire?
When you contribute to Wikipedia, please observe the conventions for doing so, otherwise other contributors will have to come by to clean up after you. Meanwhile, have fun :) Jersey_Jim 15:39, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: ...because the information, having been already mentioned in the body of the article, was redundant. Jim_Lockhart 03:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: The material inserted under "litigation against Abe" by 67.175.169.250 in the edit of 13:10, 9 January 2006. In addition to being a verbatim copy of the material at http://www.sokaspirit.org/historical_facts/reformists_cur.shtml, the content is outdated (it refers to events that took place in 2000 and having taken place this year) and consists mainly of accusations, describing events only insofar as they are useful for the accusations.
About half-way through, the material also contained a list of what appear to be headlines, many of them truncated.
The second batch of material that I removed was also lifted directly from elsewhere, again SGI's Soka Spirit website: http://www.sokaspirit.org/resource/world_tribune_45.shtml.
Best regards to all, Jim_Lockhart 10:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: The article as I found it today was very biased towards Abe and contained many unsubstantiated and subjective claims, many of which were false. I have removed a lot of them and I have tried to reword much of the rest of the article to reflect the beliefs of both the SGI and Nichiren Shoshu ("The SGI claims...", "As Nichiren Shoshu sees it...", etc.). I haven't done a perfect job by any means, and I have even put in  tags against some of my own ammendments because I know that they need to be properly sourced.
Perhaps some of the stuff I have deleted can find its way back into the article, but it needs to be framed with "Nichiren Shoshu says..." or whatever.
I have also deleted some anti-Abe and anti-Nichiren Shoshu links because they do not refer to anything in the article. There certainly have been allegations of scandalous behaviour against Abe and they certainly need to be put in the article, but they must be properly referenced. Ideally sources should be reputable disinterested parties (i.e. not SGI or Nichiren Shoshu). SGI or Nichiren Shoshu sources should be used with great care.
I know that there have been a number of academics and other eminent people who have commented on the split between Nichiren Shoshu and the SGI. Are there any that have specifically commented on Abe or his conduct?
I admit an interest. I am an SGI member. However I believe it does no service to anyone to do anything other than try to make this article properly encyclopaedic (so please, try to avoid me-too editing!). I also admit that the work I have done so far is pretty inadequate and probably flawed. This article really needs a major overhaul. I shall try to get back to it when I get a bit more time. I can be contacted on my talk page if anyone needs to. ireneshusband (talk) 04:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Started a clean-up, but still much to do... 

message: I added two tags.  Only one paragraph in this article (if we stretch a double use of a source we can say two) has any sources cited.  My question is, what are the sources of the other 11 (or 10) paragraphs?
Secondly, a tag is needed to attract more editors to this page to provide neutrality.  For example, currently there is information about Nikken Abe receiving an honorific title for conducting the first overseas Gohonzon conferral ceremony in Seattle but no mention of the controversial "Seattle Incident" in which it is alleged he consorted with a prostitute and had a confrontation with police.
BrandenburgG (talk) 13:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: Polite request to editors: It is confusing for readers if the text keeps alternating between "Soka Gakkai" and "SGI". SGI is the international wing of Soka Gakkai.  There is no point in using SGI in place of Soka Gakkai in this article, because the events in this article all happened in Japan, and are not related to the international organisation SGI. For the benefit of readers, could editors please refrain from changing "Soka Gakkai" to "SGI" unless it is actually referring to the international organisation? I think this aids readability and reduces reader confusion. Thanks very much! PeepleLikeYou (talk) 23:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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message: It has been years since the following request was made: This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. 
*This article needs additional citations for verification. (June 2015)
*A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (October 2018)
Why is it been allowed continue in violation of Wikipedia standards?Ltdan43 (talk) 22:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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