Talk:List of neighborhoods in Seattle

message: "…amid subsequent convictions for campaign-related money laundering…" How can something be "amid" something "subsequent"
"A setting for jousting between the city council and the mayor, controversies over accountabilities, cronyism, and ward politics were hashed out." I hav no idea how to parse this. I see two possibilities, both unsatisfactory. What does this mean to say?
# Most likely, dangling participle "A setting for jousting between the city council and the mayor" followed by declarative sentence in passive voice "controversies over accountabilities, cronyism, and ward politics were hashed out."
# The way I first tried to parse it) Subject: "A setting", preposition: "for", list item 1: "jousting between the city council and the mayor", list item 2 "controversies over accountabilities", list item 3 "cronyism and", list item 4 "ward politics", verb, but plural where subject was singular "were hashed out."
"They are based on such as a neighborhood map…": shouldn't there be a noun before "such"? Assuming, that is, we are using American English in an article on an American city?
"…including the paper trail of developing public libraries and schools." Sorry? Is this saying that constructing buildings is a paper trail? Or what.
"Seattle has elected its city council at large since 1910": why is this in the section on public libraries? The connection escapes me.
I could go on. I could also copy edit, but I usually try to do that only when I have reasonable confidence that I at least understand the author's intent, which I do not in this case. - Jmabel | Talk 00:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor writing 

message: Dates as "1830s", "Decade: 1970s"; cf. WP:MOS #Years, decades, and centuries.
WP:MOS #Numbers in words:
* Whole numbers from zero to ten are spelled out as words in the body of an article. Use numerals in tables and infoboxes.
* Numbers above ten may be written out if they are expressed in two or fewer words, except in tables and infoboxes. Example: "sixteen", "eighty-four", "two hundred", "twenty million" but "3.75", "544", "21 million".
--GoDot 07:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: I think this article may need copyediting now. --Lukobe 06:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll notice that in all these cases, the form is ".....[NOUN], such as..." Your construction on, the other hand, is "...[PARTICIPLE] [PREPOSITION] such as..." and is not idiomatic. --Lukobe 03:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. --GoDot 22:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "which in turn is based on such as a neighborhood map..." is not encyclopedic English 

message: For some reason I thought they'd been removed. Neighborhoods that only exist on the city atlas have no business in this article. --Lukobe (talk) 22:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That people don't use the names on the city atlas is not sufficient reason to remove those names.jonathon (talk) 22:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mann" and "Minor," etc., are still in here as neighborhood names? 

message: Seeing as how the Seattle, Washington page has been moved to Seattle, should the neighborhood pages be moved to Neighborhood, Seattle, instead of leaving them at Neighborhood, Seattle, Washington? Eco84 | Talk 17:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that in every case there should be redirects; I don't really care which direction the redirects go vs. which holds the actual article. If you move the articles, you'd definitely want to check for whether there would be any "double redirect" issues: I think some of these already have some inward redirects. (For example, I think this is the case for neighborhoods that more or less coincide with protected historical districts, or which had a different name in the past.) - Jmabel | Talk 18:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page names for neighborhoods

message: What kind of reference is this? < ref name = Wilma_3761_4246 />
It was in the second section. If it is to be used, please explain what it means.
:I just figured this out. The citation information for these is in the "Bibliography" section, below the references section. Obviously needs to be fixed ike9898 (talk) 21:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting 

message: There seems to be huge and unnecessary duplication between the list of 'districts and neighborhoods' and the 'alphabetical list of neighborhoods'. Can anybody see a good reason why these shouldn't be amalgamated? Letsplaydrums (talk) 11:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope this would now be considered adequately addressed. - Jmabel | Talk 04:59, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplication of lists

message: I've just finished a copy-edit here, and I noticed a rather large 'Bibliography' section underneath the refs. This may be 'legacy' material and might be better incorporated into the article using cite format.
Also, the lists are rather unwieldy - are they really necessary? Do other cities' articles have them? Maybe they could be spun off into an article such as List of Brisbane suburbs. Anyway, I'm done here for now. Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More work needed

message: The Pike-Pine Corridor has developed its own distinctive identity and should be recognized. It has its own neighborhood plan document.
Pike-Pine falls between Capitol Hill to the north and First Hill to the south. Some consider it the southernmost neighborhood in Capitol Hill. Perhaps it should be included in the list of Capitol Hill sub-areas.Chesterct (talk) 20:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pike-Pine Corridor??

message: * Why do we do a geographical list followed by a so-called alphabetical list, but the alphabetical list is still somewhat hierarchical and geographical? This seems to me to be a very sloppy organizing principal. Would anyone object to my fusing this into a single list, possibly with some sort of table-based organization, similarly to what we do elsewhere for lists of historic districts, NRHP listings, landmark listings, etc.? (Some of this would still be a bit redundant to the list of annexations, but at least the redundancy would be a bit more limited.)
** Working on this. - Jmabel | Talk 01:35, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misc. issues 

message: OK, I put a bunch of work into this and addressed the most salient issues. No doubt the references could still be generally improved and (in the cases of those that are vague) simply checked, but the referencing quality is now, I think, within the range of par for the course. Anyway, I think it is someone else's turn to take it the next step.
The section called "Future" (under annexations) could certainly use an update. Nothing like an out-of-date crystal ball. - Jmabel | Talk 05:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current status

message: So...is it Wedgwood or Wedgewood? The City of Seattle Neighborhood Atlas has it with an e. You get hits for both spellings on Google. One wonders if there can even be an official spelling for a neighborhood?
Perhaps, once the article is written, a redirect from one to the other is in order. --Lukobe 20:45, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
I live there! No "e". The city's site  is, indeed, wrong (and I also know a few businesses who misspell it), but the signs at the edge of the neighorhood are consistent, as are most of the businesses (e.g. , ) and the community council . It was named after the Irish porcelain-maker Wedgwood, the favorite of the wife of Al Balch, the developer who named the neighborhood. And, yes, once that article gets written, a redirect is in order, since the misspelling appears to be (remarkably) common. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:31, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
*Judkins  (--GoDot 04:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Judkins Park is a subset of Atlantic neighborhood (there are many such around town). Need correct the article, too. Please see References and maps. --GoDot 04:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Wedgwood'' or ''Wedgewood'' 

message: I dig the  template. All those subdivisions of West Seattle, though, make me wonder why we don't have similar subdivisions for the other neighborhoods--or if those subdivisions really all deserve their own articles.
I guess the source of the multiple subdivisions is that City Clerk's map, which I formerly criticized as not being entirely accurate in the sense of reflecting what people themselves think of where they live. Now, however, I'm wondering if we shouldn't stick directly to what it says if only to avoid running afoul of the "no original research"/"content should be verifiable"/"cite your sources" rules. I must admit I didn't stick as closely to those as I should have when I was creating many of the articles.
-interesting idea; the division here between south end neighborhoods seems a bit arbitrary otherwise —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.73.195 (talk) 02:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. If you want to revise the nesting, or whatever, go ahead, I just reflected the structure given on this page. I assumed someone had thought it through. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe--if I ever get the time. Things have been quite busy lately. And I still am worried about the "no original research"/"content should be verifiable"/"cite your sources" rules--I think, strictly speaking, we're violating them all over the place in the Seattle-related articles, though I'm still quite proud of all of them...anyway, like I said, not sure where this should go. I'll look into the nesting..maybe...someday :) --Lukobe 08:21, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm very skeptical about how far some people now want to take WP:NOR. See you at the meetup? Something we should talk about. -- Jmabel | Talk 10:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's good news. Probably won't be able to make the meetup, but will definitely discuss it if I'm there.. --Lukobe 20:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cool new template 

message: Sorted "The following towns were annexed by Seattle from 1905 to 1910". Would explaining why this period may be of signifcance be useful to readers? --GoDot 04:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Section headed "Towns annexed 1906–1910" [changed to 1905–1910] might be removed, too, or explained. I've not figured out what importance the paragraph serves. --GoDot 17:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Columbia City, Georgetown, South Park, and West Seattle dates are not very consistent with the section heading. --GoDot 03:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Towns annexed 1905&ndash;1910 

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message: There needs to be some sort of information in this article about the electoral districts for City Council seats that went into action in 2015. There is some information in the article Seattle City Council. The map there is also useful. The main problems as I see it are that some traditional neighborhoods are in more than one council district, and that often people say "district" when they mean "neighborhood" or vice versa, and now that there are actual official "districts" (quite distinct from the preexisting state and federal legislative districts), this imprecision can in some cases be quite confusing. I don't know exactly what changes to introduce here, but I'm sure something should be done. --Haruo (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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