Talk:Crowned republic

message: The Roman Empire in the East (Byzantium) was definetly not considering itself as a Republic - some coins at the time show the Emperor's head with the inscription "King over Kings, Ruling over Rulers".Tourskin 06:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be - is he (the leader, is his name Kim Jong or somethin?) or does he posses absolute power? The thing is Venice was a crowned republic because it had a King or a noble in charge - same with Rome, where by an Emperor and a King are effectively the same thing. I'm not sure what title Kim Jong has. Party secretary perhaps but u should check out the North Korea page.Tourskin 03:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007

message: It was called the prinipate by the romans or empire.
YankeeRoman(65.222.151.74 (talk) 21:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It weren't build in a day, either. GoodDay (talk) 20:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rome was no crowned republic 

message: --Gazzster (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now it def. applies to Canada...--Cameron (t|p|c) 20:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha. Im on to it. Try googling 'Canada'; and 'Crowned republic'.--Gazzster (talk) 20:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, an H.G. Wells source comes up. Interesting read.  --G2bambino (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I liked war of the worlds but I didnt think much of that! --Cameron (t|p|c) 20:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool book. Not a bad movie.--Gazzster (talk) 00:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good cleanup, G2 

message: Does not North Korea meet the definition of a crowned republic in the historical sense?
2008-10-02  Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
I have found a present-day term for the same concept: family dictatorship.
2009-01-19  Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
"effectively making this the only hereditary succession in the remnants of the Communist Bloc."  If we are going to include North Korea, then surely we should include Cuba, where Fidel Castro is succeeded by his brother; every bit as hereditary as James II succeeding Charles II.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.93.161.61 (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical sense still useful? 

message: The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was NOT a crowned republic in the sense that it was officially supposed to be a republic, but de facto it assumed qualities of a monarchy.
Quite the OPPOSITE: it was officially SUPPOSED to be a MONARCHY, but de facto it assumed qualities of a republic, with its king being elected, the representative (for its time) General Parliament ('Sejm walny') running things, decentralisation and subsidiarity were rather the norm and certain rights became sacred for the politically active (szlachta).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omulurimaru (talk • contribs) 14:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh?  This is the status of all crowned republics described in this article. john k (talk) 18:28, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 

message: The Republic of Venice was not a crowned republic, in that even though the aristocracy invariably became elected doge, it was by no means hereditary. If you look on a list of all the Doges of Venice, there are some last names that are repeated throughout the history, but none of them are father to son, only brother to brother, and most of the time, even these were highly contested.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andhangmyzen (talk • contribs) 21:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Republic of Venice has been referred to as a crowned republic, but I suppose the absence of a citation is enough to remove it from the list. Most of the other examples are uncited too. 'Crowned republic' is not, of course, an official designation, not even a particularly useful way of describing certain countries. In this article is seemed to be used as a catch-all name for republics with authoritarian, hereditary governments or, conversely, constitutional nations with weak monarchies. Rather confusing, really. Especially when you consider that a great number of nations will fit into that category. After all, most monarchies are constitutional democracies and many republics have hereditary dictators or strong monarch- like executives (The US, US and the Russian Federation, for example). The article should only treat of the term 'Crowned Republic' in the context in which it has been used. We should not try and assign countries to the term. This is original research. I believe the phrase has been attached to the UK, Australia, and, as I've guessed, probably the Republic of the Venice.  As for the others? Well - references!Gazzster (talk) 06:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

text: What about the Dutch republic, where the position of Stadtholder was first de facto and then de jure hereditary in the Princes of Orange-Nassau ?161.24.19.112 (talk) 17:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venetian Republic 

message: I have just done a search of Google Books and Google Scholar, not one source was returned described the  Protectorate as a "Crowned republic". Unless a reliable source can be found that Crowned republic is an excepted description of the the  Protectorate it should be removed from the list. -- PBS (talk) 12:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd think the Commonwealth was the opposite - and uncrowned monarchy. john k (talk) 18:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Protectorate]] 

message: It would be illegal to discuss this subject in the Thai kingdom of Rama IX. --Pawyilee (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thailand 

message: Crowned republic is constitutional monarchy. This playing around with words isn't going to help the article. Crowned means with crown and that means king, and there is no compatibility between "crown" and "republic." These are opposite terms. Crowned republics are constitutional monarchy. Crowned republics are not republics, because the head of state is the monarch. 64.134.146.210 (talk) 01:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how the current article has any issues with that. Abstractematics (talk) 04:42, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Crowned republic is monarchy