Talk:Albert Einstein/Archive 5

message: If his body was cremated, according to his wishes, on the same day of his death, how could his brain be analyzed post-mortem as stated in the Early Years chapter? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.2.210.78 (talk • contribs) 17:16, January 5, 2006  (UTC)
*He was autopsied before he was cremated, apparently, and had specifically outlined to donate his brain to science. --Fastfission 01:26, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brain examined vs Cremation 

message: I disagree with the opening line which reads "..[Einstein] was a Jewish theoretical physicist..".
The word Jew is used in many ways but generally refers to a follower of Judaism, a child of a Jewish mother, or someone of Jewish descent with a connection to Jewish culture, ethnicity and/or religion; It's improper to refer to Einstein with an ethnic/religious pretext. Traditionally, the opening line refers to one's place/nation of birth, not their cultural or religious background. I'm going to change this to German-American, and leave it up to the rest of the article to debate over his ethnic and religious heritage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.105.163.3 (talk • contribs) 21:10, January 9, 2006  (UTC)
: His parents were Jewish as far as I know. Was also educated at a Jewish school, and persecuted for being Jewish. What's improper? Lucidish 04:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not disputing his Jewish heritage at all. However, traditionally the opening line for an article relating to a person (or persons) outlines their profession (one related to their accomplishment(s)) and his or her place of birth. Discussing one's cultural/religion background should be debated in the body of the article, not the opening line. I.e.: Georges Cziffra (and other figures of distinct heritage) was Gypsy by birth, yet you don't see anyone describing him as a Gypsy first, and a classical pianist second. 22:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okie doke, that sounds prudent. Lucidish 17:20, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German-American theoretical physicist 

message: I added the Mergefroms for Einstein's two sons, Eduard Einstein and Hans Albert Einstein.  Neither of them is noteworthy for any reason other than having the name Einstein.  Eduard's article even agrees with that: "...Eduard, however, is famous due to his family lineage."  If we added a bio for every schizophrenic and hydraulic engineer in Wikipedia, we'd have a real huge (and uninteresting) database.
Comments?  —Wknight94 (talk) 15:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like everything useful in those articles is already in this one so maybe I'll just Afd those.  —Wknight94 (talk) 15:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge the children 

message: You'll probably think I'm nuts, but there was an article about Einstein's contribution to fridge engineering in Scientific American quite a few years back. I'm surprised this isn't even touched on in the article. The German wikipedia actually mentions it: . - Samsara 16:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Albert Einstein#The Einstein refrigerator. Lupo 09:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What about his contribution to fridge engineering?

message: Friedrich Dürrenmatt wrote an essay, Albert Einstein, that examines Einstein's interpretation of Spinoza's monotheism. Dürrenmatt also wrote a play, Die Physiker, the main character of which is a genius physicist who has found a formula that could be used to create a terrible weapon. Copenhagen by Michael Frayn is a similar work, although here the characters are not fictional. - Samsara contrib talk 03:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dürrenmatt

message: -"he renounced his Württemberg citizenship and became stateless."- 
Ths is somewhat confusing to the ignorant. Why "Württemberg citizenship" and not "German citizenship"? Could somebody please add a note of explanation about how this worked? Thanks -- Writtenonsand 14:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Württemberg citizenship?

message: I noticed there is a lot of dispute about Einstein's nationality. In order to stop the bouncing, removal of nationalities and insertion of nationality that einstein possesed once in his life i have added a small section about the nationalities that einstein used to have during his life.
I sincerly hope that this clears up something, but i also hope that people do not simply delete this info (such as User:Max_rspct), (due to hateful feelings against germans?? or the belief that einstein would want to be a german, lets stay to the facts pls).
Hanseichbaum 14:16, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, omitting the nationalities in the first sentence may lessen the controversy. Shawnc 13:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I dont feel that it is necessary to dedicate a whole section to his nationality; Is it really that important to know whether or not he was german? If so, I believe that this kind of information would reveal itself to the reader in the intorduction, or the section concerning his early life. Delta[XK] 21:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Einsteins nationality / citizenship

message: "Einstein was a co-founder of the liberal German Democratic Party"
Could we get a cite on this, please? -- Writtenonsand 14:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: German Democratic Party: Cite, please

message: "Einstein was a ... a member of the AFL-CIO-affilated union the American Federation of Teachers."
Could we get a cite on this, please? -- Writtenonsand 14:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: American Federation of Teachers: Cite, please

message: Every date should not be linked. It's bad style and inapposite to information provided in the article. I removed said links. Please do not revert. green 65.88.65.217 19:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't wish to pursue this, but if date linking is not required, and is, as you agree, non-informative, from the pov of style they should be eliminated from the article. Have I missed something here? green 65.88.65.217 00:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They serve a useful function and do little harm. That's why they are kept. BrokenSegue 03:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the function? green 64.136.26.226 04:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From above, "the Wiki software can re-adjust it [the date] to whatever the date format the user has specified". BrokenSegue 04:07, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

text:  Right. Of course. But what does it mean? Have you used it profusely, or at all? What was the value-added? green 64.136.26.226 04:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The value added is that the date is formatted in a way that is most understandable to the reader. Truth be told, I don't understand your comment, but whatever, it doesn't matter that much. BrokenSegue 04:32, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Ahhhaaa! It means that if an editor is dumb enough to use a date like 01/02/06, Wiki software will default Jan 2 say, instead of Feb 1, if it is smart enough to know that 06 is not June. But if the editor was that careless, his edits would surely have greater insufficiencies. green 64.136.26.226 04:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it means that if I prefer to have dates display as '2001-01-15 16:12:34', then I can, but if I prefer the more human-readable '16:12, January 15, 2001', I can do that too. You might notice this preference if you logged in. FireWorks 02:34, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikilinked dates