Talk:Spider-Man 4

message: Deleting it would be pointless. when it does (hopefully and most likely) come out, the page will just be remade. Besides, it could keep people from browsing everywhere to find the latest news about the movie K25125 06:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recreate 

message: I think BIGNOLE has a point of whether or not SM4 will be produced.  If it dosnt come out, this page is worthless, but if it does, he is right, it will be easy to recreate.  Besides it may not come out for another 2 or three years.  That is why i agree.  Another thing i would like to point out that may make the production a little troublesome is, if "Lizzard and Carnage", are going to play the roles in SM4, How would they explain the following.  In SM3, the video Game, it tells the story of Lizzard and the fights between him and parker.  Most of his backround story is in that game.  THey cant really feel like telling it again.  That would just make things confusing and out of order.  THose events obviously To the people who made that game, took place during SM3, or around that time.  Thats pretty much like repeating everything,  And another thing is, Carnage cant be in the next movie because eddie brock is dead.  How can he transmit the symbiote to carnage if Eddie is already dead.  And now you all are probably thinking "But Dr. Connors already had some of the goo with him..", yeah yeah, i figured that one out to.  IF The goo does create carnage, according to story, Venom and the fanatstic 4 are supposed to help spidey defeat carnage.  Well, Once again, EDDIE BROCK IS DEAD! lol, and the fantastic 4 are only on thier 2nd movie.  Puttin spiderman and fantastic 4 together is like putting two different stories into one.  IT may be hard for Marvel to decide to put the F4 in the next Spiderman film.  Thats all i have to say, and dont even bring up the rumor of black cat playing a part in SM4, because didnt we see enouph of her in SM2 the Video Game.
*No. 1: Sign your posts.
*No. 2: The Lizard only appeared in the game, he has not canioncally appeared in the movies.
*No. 3: They could theoretically pull a backstory for Carnage out of their asses, like saying that the metorite that had the black symbiote had a red symbiote in it too, or they could say the Venom symbiote managed to give birth sometime before it was destroyed by the pumpkin bomb. BassxForte 22:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright people, this isn't a forum.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 23:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible problems with Spiderman 4 

message: Spider-Man 4's productions has started. So I'm creating this Spider-Man 4 article back. Please do not changed the article condition please. Any enquiry can be asked at my talk page.
Cinema of Kollywood (talk) 12:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No it hasn't. Alientraveller (talk) 10:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

text: They are still trying to get a script together, and production hasn't really started.  All we know right now is that Raimi and Tobey Mcguire (I think I misspelled that) are set to return, and that's about it.  It's gonna be at least another few months before any concrete info is released on production. MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 12:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recreation 

message: This page needs to either be deleted or heavilly, HEAVILLY edited, because most of the stuff here is pure lies.  Producer Grant Curtis is going to play Kraven the Hunter?!  David Koepp is writing it?!  The Spider-Man character bio is just copied and pasted from the Spider-Man 3 page?!  This is ludicrous!  A fan has obviously run wild, and this should be edited RIGHT NOW, so I'm doing it.  If anyone puts it back, I am prepared to re-edit it.  It's just plain stupid right now.  MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 20:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry, I've redirected it again and advised the person who recreated it about WP:NFF. Alientraveller (talk) 10:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Awesome, because the page really needed to be removed.  I'm still fairly new to editing, so I wasn't sure exactly how.  The page was just comical as it was. MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 12:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Now it's back to the BS.  MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 17:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just revert it next time. You clearly do know how to edit, so do it yourself instead of complaining next time. ThuranX (talk) 18:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I don't know how to do everything yet, hence, I was asking someone else for assistance.  I only know how to do a very little, because, well, I don't have the time to spend online constantly editing wikipedia article.  I'll edit info I feel is valid if I have a minute or two and happen to catch something I feel needs editing, but I still don't know how it all works.  Jeez, forgive me for asking for assistance because I don't know everyting.  MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Page is Bullcrap! 

message: I have been watching quietly at this article. It goes from being a link to being a page, changing every 5 minutes or so.
For those of you who think that this article shouldn't be created, I agree with you. No casting has been done let alone, a script hasn't been chosen (several people have wrote the screenplay).
However, for those of you who think that this article should be created, I agree with you also. The film has a confirmed release date, and we already know the director and 4 of the actors (Raimi and Maguire, Dunst, Baker, and Simmons).
In order to solve this problem, I have devised a solution. Once this editing embargo ends (put up wisely by one of our own editors) I have decided to rewrite the article. Now, hear me out. I know I just said that I agree with people who don't like the creation of this page, but, if something isn't done, this war will continue, until eventually the article is banned.
Now, the change that is needed for this article, I have arranged into 2 main categories.
1) Factual information- Some of the information stated in this article was purely fan-based.
2) Citations/References- There were no references that made sense. After looking through some of the earlier ones, I discovered that they had been copied               and pasted from the Spider-Man Film Series article. Then, when the references were changed, they were just links.
So, if some of you users involved in this conflict agree that this needs to end, then I ask of you, please allow me to repair the damage on this article and provide a cleaner, truthful, one. If all goes well, and you kind users allow me to edit the article, then give me at least a weeks time from Monday, June 22, 2009. -Red Slayer 01:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you kidding me? You are the one who keeps recreating the page, and the history shows that. You're not the neutral voice you're now pretending to be; in fact, I personally twice linked the WP:NFF guideline page to you twice, asking you to read it. You have ignored it in favor of more edit warring restorations. All the material here belongs at the location this article redirects to. The material here duplicates what's at the Spider-man Film Series because the problematic editors who insist on seeing this page recreated took most of the material from there. There is no way this page will be recreated until filming starts. There's wide consensus on this across wikipedia's relevant projects - COMICS and FILM, and into the wider community. Finally, please sign with your actual account name, not a new pseudonym. ThuranX (talk) 02:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change we need 

message: I admit, I was quite supportive of this page. I really did think that it had potential. To be honest, it was I who created the Spider-Man 4 page. I thought that this page would be useful for many to read, and inform them about the future Spider-Man film. 
However, some things happened to my once clean page. For one thing, someone started to change the information on it. For example, I said that producer Grant Curtis is a fan of Kraven the Hunter. Someone else changed it to producer Grant Curtis will play Kraven the Hunter.
Another thing that happened was that people screwed up the references page. When I added accurate references, someone jumbled them up and added some messed-up ones of their own.
So you see, I am not the only one to blame. I merely want to repair what I broke, recreate what I created, and provide a well-informed article for many to enjoy.
Yes, you are right. I did keep changing the page, from the link back to the article. Like I said before though, I hadn't realized that users had changed the page from what it originally was (although it wasn't that much better originally, it still was more accurate).
So please, allow me to recreate the article, and, if it still isn't approved by you, then I will not continue to fight this war. Valkyrie Red: June 16, 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valkyrie Red (talk • contribs) 23:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, WP:NFF. No reason to recreate it. Leave it alone. ThuranX (talk) 23:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

text: You could create it in your Sandbox. Gman124 talk 05:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just proposed it be merged back into the film series article.  As per WP:FILM, this shouldn't exist yet as principle photography hasn't commenced (just like there aren't articles for Thor, Captain America and countless other films).  Feel fre sandbox it though.  Planewalker Dave (talk) 22:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it should be merged back immediately. There just isn't enough info for the time being. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to ThuranX