Talk:Philippine dynasty

message: Curious. Is this the actual spelling of "Philippine" in this context? Or is it "Philipine"? I refer to the unclear distinction of whether "Philippine" refers to "belonging to the Philippines" or "belonging to the dynasty established by Phillip II of Spain". Or is there really no distinction? Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 11:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

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message: The term is completely original research. I can't find a single source using the term "Portuguese House of Habsburg", see this. One would ask if there ever was a Portuguese branch of the House of Habsburg. But no, there never was because Portugal was ruled by the main branch of the House of Habsburg aka the Spanish Habsburg. The family didn't have a different name when ruling Portugual and when ruling Spain. I want to note even the actual break away cadet line ruling in Austria was just refer to as House of Habsburg. Philippine Dynasty should be retained as a reference to the line of rulers and a term for the period of history which Portuguese historians used to fit into the whole royal dynastic scheme starting with the Borgonha dynasty, than Aviz, Philippine, And finally Braganza. No reference should be made to "Portuguese House of Habsburg" because it doesn't exist. There was never such a term and no separate Portuguese branch of the Habsburgs existed. It is merely trying to create something equivalent to Portuguese House of Burgundy. --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 05:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portuguese House of Habsburg 

message: A lot of artcles with links to Portuguese House of Habsburg and relating to this period of history have been "de-Spanishize" and made more Portuguese. Usually it read Spanish Habsburg before it was changed or Spanish monarchs/king. Compare  Marquis of Castelo Rodrigo before and after. The Philippine kings were Spanish first and claim to be Portuguese kings only as a second thought. It really messes up things to push forward their Portuguese identity at the exclusion of their role as Spanish oppressors. It is equivalent to calling the English kings, Irish kings and replacing any reference to the English for articles related to the history of the English domination of Ireland like calling Henry VIII's family the Irish House of Tudor.  --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 16:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: De-Spanishize