Talk:First Drees cabinet

message: === In the beginning ===
*  created  (7 August 1948 - 15 March 1951) at 13:03, 8 December 2006
*  created  (15 March 1951 - 2 September 1952) at 14:51, 8 December 2006
*  created  (2 September 1952 - 13 October 1956) at 10:05, 9 December 2006
*  created  (13 October 1956 - 22 December 1958) at 10:29, 9 December 2006
The story to be continued... wbm1058 (talk) 19:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaeology 

message: *  created  (7 August 1948 - 15 March 1951) at 13:03, 8 December 2006
*  created  (15 March 1951 - 2 September 1952) at 14:51, 8 December 2006
*  created  (2 September 1952 - 13 October 1956) at 10:05, 9 December 2006
*  created  (13 October 1956 - 22 December 1958) at 10:29, 9 December 2006
The story to be continued... wbm1058 (talk) 19:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the beginning 

message: * at 17:14, 18 October 2010  moved page  to  over redirect
** this move was made about 15 minutes before the above RM was submitted
* at 16:50, 10 November 2010  moved page  to  (Naming system of all Dutch cabinets (see talk))
* at 16:56, 10 November 2010  moved page  to  (Naming system of all Dutch cabinets (see talk))
* at 17:01, 10 November 2010  moved page  to  (Naming system of all Dutch cabinets (see talk))
* at 17:04, 10 November 2010  moved page  to  (Naming system of all Dutch cabinets (see talk))
The four 10 November 2010 moves were performed while a requested move discussion was open, in which the page mover did not participate. Three moves were requested, not four, the requester having already moved the "first" to an unnumbered title. The other four pages stayed on the same numbers (2, 3 and 4) thus not implementing the request to reduce the count by one (to 1, 2, and 3). – wbm1058 (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  First moves 

message: * at 15:27, 21 April 2011  moved Second Drees cabinet to First Drees cabinet (First Drees cabinet)
** this was an easy move because since the page title First Drees cabinet did not previously exist, there was no redirect to move over
* at 15:30, 21 April 2011  copy- moved Third Drees cabinet to Second Drees cabinet
** (their move three minutes earlier left behind a blocking redirect)
* at 15:36, 21 April 2011  cut- moved Fourth Drees cabinet to Third Drees cabinet, making a page history which abruptly changes scope from one topic to another
** this time the page history of the copy-pasted Third/Second Drees cabinet blocked the move
Now that I've sorted out what happened, I'll repair the cut-paste moves by making history-merges. – wbm1058 (talk) 21:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second moves 

message: Over the course of my archaeological dig (see the section above) one question kept nagging me. Josef van Schaik was just the Deputy Prime Minister under Drees, so why is he given shared billing, as if he is a co-prime minister with Drees in the Drees–Van Schaik cabinet. And what makes Frans Teulings, Louis Beel and Teun Struycken so un-special that they don't share billing in the cabinet names? Why is Drees only given credit for leading three cabinets, not four? Why aren't Drees I, II, and III called the Drees–Teulings cabinet, Drees–Beel cabinet, and Drees–Struycken cabinet? The articles don't explain. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What makes Josef van Schaik so special that he gets co-billing?