Talk:United Daughters of the Confederacy

message: For those interested, Lanier is a related topic per . Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sidney Lanier]] 

message: I think that most readers in the year 2020 would think of "recent decades" as being the 2010s, the 2000s, the 1990s, perhaps the 1980s, possibly even the 1970s. Almost none would think the 1920s. Yet that was when the only UDC Klan monument mentioned in this article was built. Specifically 1926; 94 years ago. That's 15 Presidents ago during Coolidge's administration, the year before Lindbergh's transatlantic flight, and 33 years closer to the time of the Civil War than to 2020. I think we can eliminate the highly misleading sentence in the lead that "Until recent decades, the UDC was also involved in building monuments to commemorate the Ku Klux Klan". Tbobbed (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Building monuments to the Klan "until recent decades", really?

message: I find it misguided that you would allow use of a reference by at least one antagonist to the United Daughters of the Confederacy (in fact, to all things Southern), as well as someone who, by very nature of the fact that he is from far distance regions certainly does NOT understand the events related to the founding, activities or continuation of the UDC. That is Professor Fitzhugh Brundage, who specializes in POST Civil War history and in lynchings. He is not the proper person to make statements on this page unless you as writers have a hate agenda to do harm to this organization. The fact is, hate speech has already inflamed a mob to violate their building and libraries and to damage their materials. Why do you find it necessary, through means of an online encyclopedia which is supposed to be objective truth to use it as another forum to bring havoc onto an organization which is NOT out there promoting hate or destruction or violence of any kind? LisaRudisill (talk) 22:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The UDC is by definition a post-Civil War organization. Brundage is one of the acknowledged experts in this era, the Lost Cause mythology and the role of the UDC in promoting that mythology. (And this ol' cracker boy is from Tennessee, in case you're wondering; but of course, my family gave two of its three sons fighting against the Slaveholders' Treason.) --Orange Mike | Talk 23:14, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

text: W. Fitzhugh Brundage is a distinguished American historian and tenured professor at the University of North Carolina, with extensive academic writing on the issues at hand. That you don't like what he writes about the UDC is irrelevant. We aren't here to write something you like, we're here to write an encyclopedia article based upon reliable sources, and W. Fitzhugh Brundage's writing is an indisputable reliable source on this topic. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , you're into COIs--how about this? And there's this, which someone else had a hand in. And I think the user page is pretty NOTHERE also. Drmies (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your comment confuses me. Did you mean to address LisaRudisill instead of Orangemike ? --Rsk6400 (talk) 05:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Drmies (talk) 15:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference Inappropriate 

message: Both are in the article:
"In the early 1900s the organization often applauded the Ku Klux Klan and funded the building of a monument to the Klan in 1926."  -or-
"A local chapter of the UDC funded a now-vanished memorial to the Klan erected in 1926 near Concord, North Carolina."  
The UDC organization has hundreds of chapters. -Topcat777 (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Well both can be, as a local chapter is part of the UDC.Slatersteven (talk) 15:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why is it so important to you that it was only a local chapter ? The whole organization has been falsifying history, promoting white supremacy and defending the honour of slaveholders, many of whom were child abusers. --Rsk6400 (talk) 13:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which statement is correct?