Talk:Calipers

message: Firm joint calipers have a pivot consisting of ripple washers sandwiched inside shallow domed bolt and nut.  Adjustable nut calipers are opened and closed like a draughtsperson's dividers. Hedley (talk) 11:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinguish firm-joint and adjustable-nut calipers 

message: There is also a caliper which is not used in Metalworking but in medicine and fitness/bodybuilding.
It is a device which measures the thickness of a fold of skin with its underlying layer of fat. 
It is also called a fat caliper or skinfold caliper 
By doing this at key locations, shown by research to be representative of the total amount of fat on the body, it is possible to estimate the total percent bodyfat of a person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 
:Maybe because they're often inaccurate nobody wants to write this up206.248.133.183 (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to add skinfold caliper to article 

message: Can anyone add anything about the history of the caliper? What is the earliest recorded date for the use of calipers? 194.200.237.219 18:05, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of calipers? 

message: Seems appropriate, since the picture mentions it and it's mentioned in the article.
--Xcmadman2004 08:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add a link to the Vernier scale? 

message: Both have links to navigation. Is it purely that a compass is used to create a circle, whereas a caliper is used to measure a distance betwee two points? 82.171.114.167 18:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the link or difference between a caliper and a (drafting) compass? 

message: I haven't been able to find any information on Wikipedia for proportional calipers. Here is a link to one: http://www.toolpost.co.uk/pages/Turning_Tools/Measuring/measuring.html. They are used in scaling objects. Example: when taking a small clay figure and scaling it up to a large statue a proportional caliper is used to ensure the distances between points on the large and small figure have the same proportions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.140.212 (talk) 13:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proportional Caliper? 

message: Hi Alvesgaspar,
You removed the hatnotes from this article with comments "wrong place" and "Sorry, but that is not the subject of the article". But that's the whole point of a hatnote—to steer searchers who were looking for a different sense of the word toward the sense that they were seeking. The top of an article is not the wrong place for a hatnote linking to other senses; it's exactly the *right* place.
If your real reason for the edits was that you feel that "Caliper Corporation" shouldn't get "free advertising" of a sort by having its name in the hatnote here, you can circumvent the problem by changing the hatnote to , which would yield "For other uses, see Caliper (disambiguation)." This would have readers click through to a disambig page before seeing the Corp name.
I will go do that and solve both problems at once. (I.e., by both restoring the disambiguating capability of having a hatnote, and also avoiding the "ad"-like side-effect). — ¾-10 01:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re hatnote removal: that's what hatnotes are for

message: The title and lede of this article need further consideration.  The article uses "caliper" and "calipers" interchangeably, and that seems to also be general usage.  Which word should properly be used for what -- what is the difference -- what is the history of this?
-96.237.1.235 (talk) 14:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The variants coexist in natural-language usage. Sometimes people's brains treat the word "calipers" like "scissors" or "pants" grammatically—that is, as something where the pluralness of the 2 parts (2 blades, 2 legs) is cognitively acknowledged on some level, but talking about an individual part (*scissor, *pant) is simply not done idiomatically. Other times "caliper" is treated like a regular noun, that is, it is treated cognitively as one object, not as a pair of legs. The interesting thing is, even one person can slip back and forth between both treatments. For example, I would never call one disc brake caliper "calipers" (and neither would any mechanic [as far as my regional knowledge knew when I wrote this —Ed.]). But when thinking about my dial caliper, my brain actually feels both senses of the word at various times. And you could use either sense when talking to a fellow machinist and s/he would not notice either way. The idea that a "proper" distinction does or must exist is a matter of one's philosophy of language. — ¾-10 23:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is an impressive explication!  Can someone find some way to work some of it into the article?-96.237.11.132 (talk) 02:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I should add that, at least in my region, the plurale tantum sense is kind of slippery and doesn't bear conscious analysis. Just as (at least in my region) we use only plural agreement with "scissors", that is, we say "scissors are" or "give me those scissors", we would say "hand me those calipers" or "those calipers are mine", but that cognitive feel would tend to evaporate if one was forced to think consciously about it. At least that's how it feels now that I am analyzing it. When I try to say "calipers is", my brain revolts and reverts to the regular noun sense. Oh well, I am too sleepy to ponder the possible edits tonight. Cheers, — ¾-10 03:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I agree about feeling both senses, yet personally I seem inclined to use "calipers" for the two-armed device (perhaps likening them to scissors) and "caliper" for the scaled device. Like you, I would never call a disc brake caliper "calipers". —D'Agosta ( T⁄C ) 17:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree completely regarding the first observation. I had been thinking the same thing not long ago. "Calipers" is clearly an especially interesting case of plurale tantum because of this fluidly shifting variation. — ¾-10 01:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I, living in Atlanta, Georgia, have only ever heard the plurale tantum form, even for brake calipers. I think that the English convention with other words tends to agree with this; tools with two identical symmetrical parts are always plural: scissors, dividers, grippers, pliers, bolt cutters, shears... The only exceptions I can think of right now are a vise and a compass, but in those cases the two ends are not perfectly symmetrical.128.61.23.113 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 23:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  You know, you're very right about scissors, dividers, grippers, pliers, bolt cutters, shears... just like [eye]glasses, pants, and nippers and dykes (electricians' tools). You could almost say that plurale tantum is the natural default, and maybe singular forms may occur only because of some degree of prescription that many people (such as myself and many other mid-Atlantic U.S. people with "brake caliper") grow up treating as natural because, for us, it is, in a way (guess you'd have to say that sometimes what began as prescription can become natural if widely adopted). I think this whole topic would make an interesting thesis project in linguistic science. Sigh. If anyone wants to give me a grant to study it, let me know ... ;-) — ¾-10 01:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caliper vs. Calipers 

message: thumb|right|150px|Equal space 10-point divider made of stainless steel with brass pivot pins. Manufactured by Theodore Alteneder & Sons, Philadelphia.
Does this have a place in the article? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  10-point divider 

message: Just thought I'd note that the words Pachometer, Pachimeter, Pachymeter, Paquimeter apparently all refer to devices that measure thickness (from Greek pachos = thickness + meter). According to google and youtube, at least some people refer to calipers by one of those names. The spelling "Pachymetry" seems to have found a specialized use in eye medicine, relating to measurement of the thickness of the cornea: Corneal pachymetry, in this case not using calipers per se, of course.
Gwideman (talk) 22:32, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pachometer, Pachimeter, Pachymeter, Paquimeter 

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. I checked Collins and Oxford and both of them use the plural form exclusively. As a result I am closing this request.  Summer talk 18:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Calipers →  – WP:SINGULAR? Summer talk 07:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 9 May 2023