Talk:Strawberry Panic!/Archive 2

message: It has come to my attention that there are multiple trasnlations of the three schools' names, and I was wondering if someone knows which ones are the right ones? By that I mean, are the ones given in the article accurate or not?--Juhachi 01:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the one that's probably the most difficult to judge would be St. Miatre's (聖ミアトル). The others, 聖スピカ and 聖ル・リム, are pretty obvious to anyone that's capable of reading katakana. That is, unless one wants to ponder over Spica or Spika. Although I think most would agree that Spika looks rather ridiculous. Nonetheless, I think all three are pretty good. -- Remy Suen 01:58, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and inserted those Japanese characters into the schools section; thanks for supplying them. In retrospect, I suppose you're right and the translations given should stay.--Juhachi 02:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

text: People (or the same person) appear to constantly rename Le Rim to Lelim (or some other derivative), I'm not sure what's the official word, but it is getting rather annoying. The name change has made the school's image link invalid. -- Remy Suen 13:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't appear to be the same person since the IPs are different, but then again they could just be on a different computer. I believe the main controversy of the names stems from the fact that different subbing groups are subbing it differently. Also, Le Rim seems to be the most confusing and changed often. Personally, I'm willing to bet these names have some connection with the French language or some other language than Japanese since they are written in katakana after all. I'm going to do some research into the names and try to find something.--Juhachi 19:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record for those that don't speak French 'Le' is synonymous with the English article 'The'. I don't know if Rim, Lim, or any of its derivatives actually mean or not (I don't know much French), but it's just one thing to keep in mind when attempting to translate these school names. -- Remy Suen 21:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know if it's right or not, but another one I found was the star Matar in the constellation Pegasus. That might be what Miator/Miatre represents, but I'm not sure.--Juhachi 20:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Next up, I found Miram and Theemim for possible translations for the third school, Le Rim, or however you spell it.--Juhachi 20:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: MediaWorks' website for the PS2 game spells it as Lulim  (scroll down). I must admit it's a rather ridiculous romanization as what is the point of putting the '・' in '聖ル・リム'? -- Remy Suen 21:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aw, that's so stupid; but I guess since it is "official", I'll change it back now, much to my disgust. You're right; what's the point in putting the '・' only to recombine the words in English?--Juhachi 22:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Spica's '学院' kanji is 'がくいん' in hiragana, so it would be Gakuin. I have edited it in myself. -- Remy Suen 10:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to include the kanji for girl, 女, in Spica's name since it is included at the PS2 game site.--Juhachi 01:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: For Lulim, the romanization is Gakkō, does Wikipedia have a definite guide for romanizing words? '学校' is actually 'がっこう', so I would think that it is Gakkou. For Amane's 'おお', the 'ō' is also used, so is it for romanizing both 'おお', 'こう', オー? -- Remy Suen 20:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure WP has something on romanizing foreign words into English pronounciations, but as far as I've always done it (or seen it elsewhere), -ou at the end of a word or otherwise was almost always romanized as ō since when the word is pronounced, the u sound almost disappears entirely. I suppose it also depends on the preference of whoever is doing the romanizing. If you want, you can change it to Gakkou from Gakkō; I don't really mind either way. As for Amane's surname, I think the Oo in Ootori should be kept as is since it's already shown as Ōtori when it's romanized and phonetically pronounced. In general, their name as shown when introducing the character or when referring to the character should have the basic 26 letters without added macrons (ōūīēā) or otherwise and when showing how to pronounce it, use the macrons or otherwise. This has always been the way I've done it since I first saw it like this on other pages and imitated.--Juhachi 00:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  School names? 

message: Okay, so far I've seen it named called Kuma-san and the latest (and weirdest) Percival. So far, after watching the anime, I've seen it subbed differently twice per what Kagome was saying. These were: Ashiba and Ohshibaru. Now, I have no idea what that name translates to, if it translates at all, but I am still puzzled as to why someone would think the teddy bear was named Percival. Anyway, I'm changing it back to what I had.--Juhachi 20:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay Juhachi, I've found something on the Japanese Wikipedia although it doesn't really provide a source for the katakana name . It's written that "アニメ版での名前はパーシバル", which translates to 'The name is Paashibaru in the anime series' (I figure you can probably read some Japanese, but just in case you can't). -- Remy Suen 23:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, that helps clear something up, but I still don't understand why I can't hear Kagome voicing a P sound at the beginning of the name she calls the bear. This almost seems so misleading because as you know ハ and パ are extremely similar to each other and considering that the source comes from another wiki-site, it's safe to assume that it has mistakes as well. If you take into account that Kagome does not voice a P sound at the beginning of the name (as far as I can tell and I've played it back dozons of times to make sure), then the name could just as easier be ハーシバル, which makes more sense to me via how it's pronounced in reality and how Kagome says the name itself.--Juhachi 02:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kagome's bear's name 

message: It has come to my attention that the students in this series are seperated into specific classes depending on their class of instruction i.e. students in the same class of instruction are given the same class designation. At the video game site, the class designation is listed next to where it shows their year number in the character descriptions. I have also seen mentioning of these classes in the 5th episode and in the manga. I'm going to include as much as I can from the 12 characters presented on the video game site, but for right now am unable to find out the classes of the other characters, except for Miyuki because in the 9th episode it showed that she was in the same class as Shizuma, who is in the Snow class.
From what I can tell, the classes vary between the three schools. Miator has classes associated with things from nature, such as moon (月), flower (花) and snow (雪). Spica uses the numbers in French but writes it out in katakana. For instince, 1 in French is un and written in katakana is アン, or at least that's how it was done at the video game site. Two is deux in French and ドウ in katakana, and finally, three is trois in French and トロワ in katakana. Lulim has a much simpler class system using the English letters from the alphabet: A, B, C etc.--Juhachi 06:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class system 

message: Since there will end up being 26 episodes for this series, and the list is already getting quite huge and obstructing from the other information in the article, should we consider soon splitting it off into it's own article like what they did on the The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya article?--Juhachi 21:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, that would help lower the loading time for this article significantly and also keep it in a concise manner. -- Remy Suen 22:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I just did it.--Juhachi 02:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move episode list?

message: Geez I was expecting to come back to this article and see it was still a stub. I can't believe how much work you guys have put into this. I'm assessing it as B for now. Good work. --Squilibob 03:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessed as a Class B