Talk:Italy/Archive 2

message: This terminology sounds very strange to me. What do you mean with European Cultures? At that time there was no europe and cultures and civilazation like Etruscan are better described as Mediterrean rather than european.
I suggest to write only cultures (or civilazation) rahter than "european cultures"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierpaolo.Dondio (talk • contribs) 18:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: European Cultures

message: I removed "The country is home to the greatest number of UNESCO World Heritage Sites (41)" from the introduction. I moved that to the culture heading. That does not need to be in the introduction. As if it is not long enough already. - Galati 16:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Culture

message: Wouldn't Germans be more appropriate in the immigration section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.106.216 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Germanic Invaders??

message: Is there a Wikiproject Italy? + How many editors regularly contribute to this article? I am interested in the near future to do some work on it, so just curious.. Baristarim 21:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there certainly is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Italy, but I'm not certain how active it is. I contribute to this article relatively frequently but not on a regular basis. Since creating the Culture section I've been more busy with reverting vandalism. Sicilianmandolin 03:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks! I will see what I can do. Cheers! Baristarim 04:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Italy

message: The second paragraph under "Industrialisation, World Wars and Fascism" should read and link to 'The United Kingdom' and not 'Great Britain'. I'd change it myself, but can't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.92.40.49 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made the changes :) Matchrthom 18:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The UK 

message: I think that the "language" section is a bit misleading. For example, it says that "sicilianu" (sicilian) is spoken by almost everyone in Sicily, but that's absolutely not true. I am Sicilian and I can barely understand it, let it alone speak it fluently. This is pretty common among middle-class (and above) families, where "speaking in dialect" is generally considered impolite. I cannot vouch for other dialects, of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.38.93.249 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For whatever reason, Ethnologue, which is generally a good source for these things, thinks that almost everyone can speak it. Perhaps you might consider that you can speak it even if you choose not to. In any case, we have to rely on the sources we can find, so generally an article will reflect what others have published, no matter what one's personal experience is. Reverse Gear 10:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being able to speak it is another thing. Almost everyone, me included, can "imitate" the language simply by modify the inflection and the tone of italian words, however that's not sicilian. I assume that the article talks about the language, complete with vocabulary and constructions. It seems to say that all Sicilians are active speakers of the language, speaking it everyday and in every situation, which is simply not true, despite what Ethonologue may say (I live here). Channels are in italian, newspapers are in italian, school lessons are taught in italian and most educated people speak in italian. I am just pointing this out just in case, I am surely not going to start an edit war for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.38.93.249 (talk) 11:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dialects

message: ECONOMY</br>
Italy is ranked as the 8th largest economy in the world in 2006!  WROONG! 7TH LARGEST ECONOMY!</br>
Francesco Ts! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.56.72.87 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it refers to tax evasion, which is translated into Italian as "sommerso" (that is underground). I can't find figures now but tax evasion in Italy is one of the highest amongst 1st world countries. --Fertuno 17:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy 

message: Regarding the reversion of my last edit by Cori: </br>
Vitulia is a Latin word deriving from Vitulus (bull), i.e. the direct translation of ITALIA and ITALOS. It is used by Roman authors (Livy, Virgil) who cite the Greek myth of Hercules and the bull, explaining how Italy was supposed to have got its name. In other words it's got nothing to do with the section. Miskin 15:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ITALIA

message: Why somebody cancelled the "Belpaese" nickname of italy?
It is used very often, more than "Stivale". Belpaese (=beautiful country) is the real nickname.
We should revert to it but i can't... when will be the article unlocked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.234 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored it. --Fertuno 23:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicknames of Italy 

message: Why the references about italian basketball have been erased from the culture/sport section ? pallacanestro is the 2nd team sport in Italy and the Lega A1 is in the 3rd or 4th best basketball league of the world. </br>
To not say that the probable 2006-2007 NBA rookie of the year will be Andrea Bargnani and Italy won the silver at Athen2004 ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.4.104.220 (talk) 12:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPORT 

message: The excerpt: All regions except the Aosta Valley are further subdivided into two or more provinces (provincias). 
Hello! 
I'm Italian. I only want to remind you that the italian for "provinces" is "province" (singular: "provincia") and not "provincias".
Thanks. - Lawks A' Mercy 21:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative divisions: Provinces 

message: For the exact amount of italian pop do not read the CIA factbook et similia, but please read the ISTAT web page: http://demo.istat.it/bilmens2006/index_e.html (2006 data)
For metropolitan areas, I suggest this file from OECD 
Conte di Cavour 12:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Wikipedia articles about France and Germany are divided up each new regime they adopted, like the French First Republic, second republic, empire, etc. to present day France, as well as Imperial Germany, Weimar Germany, etc to present day Germany. The same should be for wikipedia on Italy. I have made changes to the article on the Italian Social Republic to make it more like other articles depicting historical nations, and would greatly appreciate if others could help in completing more pages about Italy such as the Kingdoms of Italy from 1861 to 1946. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by R-41 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent Articles on Kingdom of Italy from 1861 to 1946 needed as well as others 

message: I'm glad if you wanna add OpenItaly.NET Collaborative Touristic Portal, that is a free and open resource. Thanks, O-Zone —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.167.125.9 (talk) 10:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touristic Informations 

message: Because I am a new user, I cannot change gramatical errors in this document.  If someone else would be so kind as to change the now-spelled 'kilometre' to the word 'kilometer', under the section Population, second paragraph, end of the first sentence.  It would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You!! 
Reckrap 16:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kilometre is an accepatable (British) spelling of the word.  There's no need to change it.  We like to think there's a difference between a metre (a unit of length) and a meter, something that measures, e.g. the amount of electricity you have used.  David Underdown 16:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gramatical Errors 

message: On item 2.4 of entry= "ITALY", you should consider that BRAZIL was a major destination for the italian exodus, in a much larger extent than, say, Uruguay, France or Australia.
67.100.183.191 17:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On emigration 

message: I just deleted what some lame-o just wrote: "annika, you'll never figure it out!!!!!!  Bryan Maurais rocks!!!!"
Until Later 
the One and only Reckrap 19:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graphiti 

message: Dsm needed because of Italia (Roman province). Maybe ? --89.172.123.91 17:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually someone turned Italia into a disambiguation page. That was correct and logical, I think. But it is a bit of a pain as it has lots of incoming links, nearly all of which probably intended Italy. (Several people used Italian as a shorthand version of Italian.) —Ian Spackman 08:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italia (Roman province) 

message: Facciamogli raggiungere la classe A a ques'articolo!!!
This article must reach A-class on the quality scale!!!
Conte di Cavour 14:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're doing an excellent job improving this article, Cavour. The Germany article just recently obtained featured status, so let's use the article as a guideline for improving this one. One of the biggest faults I can see with the condition of this article is the lack of references/citations and the occasional POV. Let's fix this and get this article to featured status. Sicilianmandolin 23:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cough cough :) Turkey or Canada would be a better starting point - Germany article has huge problems. I was present in the FACs of both Turkey and Germany. The history section of Germany is really bad - it is too long. An FA country article would need at least 80 inline citations. Just an advice :) Baristarim 23:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Or have a look at other FA country articles if you would like. Again, Germany made FA by chance in a way - that's why there are still edit-wars in that article. Baristarim 23:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the advice. Actually, I had already noticed a couple errors in it, including the mention of Mozart as a native of Germany in the Culture section. I replaced his name with Wagner's. :P Sicilianmandolin 11:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot for the compliments :-) Anyway I'm using the UK artcile as a guidline, cause imho it's more "professional".Conte di Cavour 14:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Today I've requested an assisment for this article... Conte di Cavour 15:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Valuable pointers you've supplied, indeed. I'll get started very shortly. Sicilianmandolin 04:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Hi Baristarim, thanks a lot for your advices! I concord with you almost in every point, except:
 
2)Languages...Italy has, like no other country in Europe, a very large number of dialects, that are regularly spoken in italian regions. Those dialects are so different among them, that are out and out languages. A Siciliano speaker has serious difficulty to understand, for example, an Emiliano speaker.
6)I belive that cities and metropolitan areas shoud me mentioned under demographics, because they are simply demographic phenomenons and not administrative subdivisions related things.
12)imho there should be a transport section, because I belive that it's can be useful to comprehend a country's status of developement (there is analogous sections in many articles of european countries).
As for grammar and style: my english is terrible, in fact I limit myself to make tables, add pictures, update datas and accomodate other minor things. If someone can improve the article under the style aspect is absolutely welcome. Conte di Cavour 17:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The article is in better shape now, but there is still room for improvement. Some sections are still a bit long and need to be expanded in new articles. I find the sentence "Italy is very famous for popular foods like spaghetti, pizza, ice-cream and risotto" to be unworthy of the opening section... perhaps it should go under cuisine or elsewhere. Mariokempes 17:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dai ragazzi - Let's go guys

message: I've been pretty protective over the Culture section for a while now, but I can't help but notice that my usage of the word "sports" in the paragraph is excessive. Anyone up to the editorial challenge of improving that? Thanks. Sicilianmandolin 03:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sports

message: You're invite to discuss a new series of vector maps to replace those currently used in Country infoboxes: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#New European vector maps. Thanks/wangi 12:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New European vector maps 

message: Why someone removed the external links to snowfalls and winter photos from the "climate" section because?
* Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). --Beyond silence 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate  

message: I think it is missleading to categorise Italy as a German- and French-speaking country. Wouldn't it be better to categorise South Tyrol and Aosta valley separately? Aaker 18:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  French- and German-speaking? 

message: this is tight  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.0.142 (talk) 03:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hi 

message: This is R-41, I'm a user from London, Ontario, Canada. On my computer at my home and now a computer which I am on at the university I am at, Wikipedia is appearing to have serious problems, multiple images are not appearing. Presently on this article on Italy, I cannot see the flag or coat of arms, or the map on the side table. As well a number of other images are not showing up on the article and they have an "x" or appear blank. However when I click on the blanked or "x"ed off images the images do appear on their own page. Other articles which I have looked at are also having this problem as well. In the past few days, more images are appearing as "x"ed off or blank. When I noticed this problem starting was a few days ago when people started making major changes to templates such as Template:Expert-verify or Template:NPOV as well as others. Also when I try to use the toolbar buttons in the editing toolbar it does not work at all. I'm concerned about this, is anyone else having any of these problems, I'd like to know. Please say "yes" or "no" if you are witnessing similar problems. User:R-41  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 19:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Widespread errors on Wikipedia including this page 

message: Russia and Italy both seem to be the 8th at GDP? --Abuk78 20:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GDP

message: There is a gross mistake in the Italian GDP (nominal): 
it is 2150 trillion, not billion.
The same mistake is not present in GDP (PPP) where the figure is in trillion.
Please change it, otherwise we will look like one of the poorest countries in the world.
Thank you.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.187.5.74 (talk) 15:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GDP It is in trillion, not billion!! 

message: italy is, since 1960, a not declared nuclear power because it is under the cover of american strategic forces and it can use, in case of war, american nuclear tactical bombs type B-61 ( 0,3 - 120 kiloton ). Those 90 nuclear weapons are in the Italian Air Force Base Ghedi Torre and Nato Air Base Aviano. Italy is included in "nuclear sharing" of NATO, as Germany, Netherlands and Turkey. It's important that this infrmation will be included in th main topic "Italy", section Armed Forces.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.18.136.65 (talk) 10:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll find that the USA owns those, not Italy. they just happened to be deployed there. Or are you also suggesting that the US army in Iraq are actually Iraqi troops? Rhialto 11:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITALIAN NUCLEAR ARSENAL