Talk:Ateneo de Manila University

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/summary -This is a barebones version for use in initiating translations to other languages. Please do not remove or expand . Feel free to enter essential only data.--Jondel 01:29, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Pls understand this is not the article but a template for other language versions. I've already done some translations. But will do more tranlations.--Jondel 06:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am concerned about the CONTENT that was edited. The facts are incomplete, and therefore the summary is inaccurate. The edit which I put is more accurate, and has bases in such material facts as centers of excellence, etc. Rmcsamson 06:08, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's open now. --Jondel 06:18, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Another matter of concern is NPOV. Will such a statement, "It is known for its programs in..." be ""conversant with this standard? If not, it may be better to eliminate those statements from ALL the schools' summaries. Rmcsamson 06:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The target readers are not filipinos. It will give a guide to foreigners /non-filipinos. I feel that there would be no disputes with those statements and they are generally accepted(?) .e.g.  Filipinos go to Ateneo and UP for Law, UP and UST for medicine, many government officials are from UP and Ateneo(?). If it is POV then OK , delete.--Jondel 06:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  If that's the case, then my edit of the summary would have served as a better guide, since I can also say it's "generally accepted." There's the risk there.Rmcsamson 06:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Since this will be initial versions,take the best 'risk with generally accepted statements.--Jondel 06:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: A lot of this information appears to be copywrited, and the degree offerings are unencyclopedic. TheCoffee 07:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm... I was worried that "the Ateneo" might be the correct usage after all. The part about Marian Blue still really seems to tilt the article in Ateneo's favor, though, with all the adjectives that assign to Ateneo an implicit greatness. Ok, for now, after you restore it, I'll go and restore mine, but I'll leave in the use of "The Ateneo" as well as the part about Marian Blue until we can get more input about those parts. Migs 14:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It appears you have done that already. Thanks, and thanks for truncating that tremendously long article on the school colors. :) Migs 14:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi again, Migs. Here's some stuff that can perhaps help you:
If you read the article on the school name, you'll probably figure why "the Ateneo" has been the official usage until now. It's because of quirks of translation.
However, there has been need for some clarification with regard to how the name is used. Perhaps this snippet from a stylebook can help:
"Ateneo. Popular name of Jesuit institutions of learning in the Philippines. Spanish form of the Latin word Atheneum, which the Dictionary of Classical Antiquities defines as the name of the “first educational institution in Rome” where “rhetoreticians and poets held their recitations.” Fr. James Meany, S.J. further explains that this name is derived from a Greek temple dedicated to Athena, the goddess of wisdom, where the Encyclopedia Britannica says “poets and men of learning were accustomed to meet and read their productions.”
The name Ateneo was adopted by the Escuela Municipal de Manila in 1865, becoming the Ateneo Municipal de Manila. The Spanish roots of the word therefore present a dilemma.
If the word is treated as a Spanish word, references to the school become appropriate renditions of “el Ateneo,” or literally, “the school.” Therefore, the use of “the” before the word Ateneo is appropriate. Thus, the common usage, “the Ateneo” can stand and be used liberally, as in
Jose Rizal graduated from the Ateneo with a degree in the arts.
As a University, the Ateneo de Manila seeks to preserve….
However, in the Philippines, the name Ateneo is not merely a common Spanish noun, and is recognized as the official title of Jesuit institutions of higher learning. Thus, to say that one is attending classes at Ateneo is also appropriate. The use of “the” also becomes inappropriate at times, as in
Ateneo students often meet in the cafes along Katipunan Avenue."
"When mentioned for the first time, the full name Ateneo de Manila University should be used. Subsequent references can use the full name, or the abbreviated form Ateneo de Manila. When there are no other Ateneos involved, it can be referred to as the Ateneo. Otherwise, always add the qualifier de Manila for clarification. Not doing so would be an unjustified act of hubris. 
Abbreviation into the acronyms ADMU or ADM is undesirable and should be avoided."
"The official title of the University is Ateneo de Manila University. The school name is Ateneo de Manila. The school's 'nickname' is Ateneo, and should only be referred to as 'the Ateneo' if it is clear that it is the Ateneo de Manila that is being talked about. Otherwise, usage of the school name (Ateneo de Manila) should be used prior to just 'the Ateneo.'"
Rmcsamson 14:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Woah, that's awesome, in particular, the bit about the Spanish roots. I was only aware of the Greek roots previously. Thanks, I love learning etymologies of words. --Migs 15:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: non-NPOV

message: I have removed portions that are blatant promotional material, and reworded several parts to sound less commercial. Some changes include the removal of adjectives which imply favor with Ateneo, and the removal of references to "the Ateneo" in favor of "Ateneo," so as not to sound elitist. I have also removed the terribly biased section on the elegance of Marian blue.
I would like to eventually remove even the phrases with adjectives that skirt the borders of objectivity, such as "Moro is the largest gymnasium in the Philippines" in favor of more concrete phrases such as "Moro measures so-and-so meters."
Some of the more blatantly obvious non-NPOV sections include:
The whole Mission-Vision part.
The section on the Blue Eagle--it sounds pretty biased to me.
The section on the Cheering tradition--this is difficult to make encyclopedic without deleting most of it.
I will try to continue tomorrowm, but spotting the non-NPOV sentences is a difficult task, and I will have undoubtedly missed many things. Please help us out. :)
Migs 13:36, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm... I was worried that "the Ateneo" might be the correct usage after all. The part about Marian Blue still really seems to tilt the article in Ateneo's favor, though, with all the adjectives that assign to Ateneo an implicit greatness. Ok, for now, after you restore it, I'll go and restore mine, but I'll leave in the use of "The Ateneo" as well as the part about Marian Blue until we can get more input about those parts. Migs 14:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It appears you have done that already. Thanks, and thanks for truncating that tremendously long article on the school colors. :) Migs 14:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi again, Migs. Here's some stuff that can perhaps help you:
If you read the article on the school name, you'll probably figure why "the Ateneo" has been the official usage until now. It's because of quirks of translation.
However, there has been need for some clarification with regard to how the name is used. Perhaps this snippet from a stylebook can help:
"Ateneo. Popular name of Jesuit institutions of learning in the Philippines. Spanish form of the Latin word Atheneum, which the Dictionary of Classical Antiquities defines as the name of the “first educational institution in Rome” where “rhetoreticians and poets held their recitations.” Fr. James Meany, S.J. further explains that this name is derived from a Greek temple dedicated to Athena, the goddess of wisdom, where the Encyclopedia Britannica says “poets and men of learning were accustomed to meet and read their productions.”
The name Ateneo was adopted by the Escuela Municipal de Manila in 1865, becoming the Ateneo Municipal de Manila. The Spanish roots of the word therefore present a dilemma.
If the word is treated as a Spanish word, references to the school become appropriate renditions of “el Ateneo,” or literally, “the school.” Therefore, the use of “the” before the word Ateneo is appropriate. Thus, the common usage, “the Ateneo” can stand and be used liberally, as in
Jose Rizal graduated from the Ateneo with a degree in the arts.
As a University, the Ateneo de Manila seeks to preserve….
However, in the Philippines, the name Ateneo is not merely a common Spanish noun, and is recognized as the official title of Jesuit institutions of higher learning. Thus, to say that one is attending classes at Ateneo is also appropriate. The use of “the” also becomes inappropriate at times, as in
Ateneo students often meet in the cafes along Katipunan Avenue."
"When mentioned for the first time, the full name Ateneo de Manila University should be used. Subsequent references can use the full name, or the abbreviated form Ateneo de Manila. When there are no other Ateneos involved, it can be referred to as the Ateneo. Otherwise, always add the qualifier de Manila for clarification. Not doing so would be an unjustified act of hubris. 
Abbreviation into the acronyms ADMU or ADM is undesirable and should be avoided."
"The official title of the University is Ateneo de Manila University. The school name is Ateneo de Manila. The school's 'nickname' is Ateneo, and should only be referred to as 'the Ateneo' if it is clear that it is the Ateneo de Manila that is being talked about. Otherwise, usage of the school name (Ateneo de Manila) should be used prior to just 'the Ateneo.'"
Rmcsamson 14:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Woah, that's awesome, in particular, the bit about the Spanish roots. I was only aware of the Greek roots previously. Thanks, I love learning etymologies of words. --Migs 15:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agreed. 

message: The article is also in need of formatting changes, and perhaps some rewordings to make it sound less awkward. In particular, I notice a lack of several commas, quotation marks, and italicizations, where there should be some. Many Latin words, for instance, do not have quotes or italics on them. I will try to fix this tomorrow, but please feel free to correct these things yourselves.
Migs 13:36, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Quality

message: Joker Arroyo was listed under "Noted alumni and professors", but I couldn't find anything that connected him to Ateneo so I just removed him. According to this, he studied at UP. TheCoffee 14:53, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Noted alumni and professors

message: Most of the section on "Culture, sports, and traditions" was copy-pasted from http://www.ateneo.edu and has been removed. Coffee 18:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation 

message: Whoa, we need to cut down drastically on external links. Wikipedia is not a webdirectory. There are currently 36 links. 8-10 should be more than enough. Please see the guideline at Wikipedia:External links. Coffee 16:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Aegis site is just an announcements site for Batch 2006, and it's of no use to Wikipedia readers. The departments section had to go since there must be at least 50 departments and all those sites can be reached through ateneo.edu anyway. The official site is practically a portal to all the offical sites, so cut back on any subpages of ateneo.edu unless they're notable on their own. Coffee 16:56, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As Coffee has cited, the links to the Ateneo subpages make the article look like a webdirectory.  As I see it, a link to the main university site (from where the other links can be reached) should be sufficient.  Only very notable subpages should be listed separately.  Compare other articles on universities, such as Harvard#External links.  --Mercurio 23:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WAY too many external links 

message: I've restored the section on culture, sports, and traditions, and have restructured it so that there are three separate sections on culture, sports, and traditions. This content is important to talk about why this particular university is unique in all others. In the meantime, I am not listing the separate articles created (there was another one on the university's history). These articles can probably be expanded to be more in-depth and even anecdotal.Rmcsamson 19:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Section on traditions, culture, etc.

message: This entry is in dire need of images.Rmcsamson 19:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I think this article is too long (51KB). It would be better if some parts of this article be divided into separate sections. The history and tradition articles should have links from the main article, not the other way around. Also, i think the Blue Eagle and Cheering traditions should be removed since they're already included in the traditions article. -- Mithril Cloud 05:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article length's something that used to worry me, until I realized that Wikipedia's full of long articles anyway. This one's just like the articles of other universities (some are even longer). It isn't patterned after any of the articles from the Philippines, since those are rather insufficient. This is closer to, say, Boston College's article. I've restored the history and culture and traditions sections since every school article (especially if one refers to the WikiProject:Schools thing) ought to have a section on history, and what sets it apart from other articles. It has been this completeness of information which helped this article be listed as a Good Article. Rmcsamson 10:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not saying that the history/culture/traditions sections should be removed. What i've seen in several good and featured education articles is that they have the history/culture/traditions in the main article but also has its own more in-depth separate article which contained more information for further reading. The main article's sections features a good summary with highlights while the divided articles features everything else one would need to know about that specific section. But if you think that the current state of the article is fine then so be it. Although what it really needs right now is pictures though. --Mithril Cloud 12:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree about the lack of pictures. I'm still trying to source them. Rmcsamson 13:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about visiting the Ateneo and manually take relevant pictures? --Mithril Cloud 13:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lacking time to do that at the moment. I've got a stash of images here, actually. I'm just trying to secure permission to use them too.Rmcsamson 22:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article length 

message: "In 1994, the Ateneo was the first Philippine school on the Internet"
Any sources for that? 
http://digitalfilipino.pbwiki.com/ writes:
*In March 1994, De La Salle University is the first school to be connected via leased line to the wide area network of PLDT. Followed by Ateneo De Manila University. 
*In March 29, 1994, at the University of San Carlos (USC), Talamban, Cebu, Philippines was linked to the world via the Internet. It got connected to Sprintlink, which at the time was carrying the backbone for NSFNet. 
http://www.softrigger.com/capexasia/bookoutline.asp?id=3 writes:
* First school connected to the Internet: The University of San Carlos (http://www.usc.edu.ph) (1994).
-- Mithril Cloud 10:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. --Mithril Cloud 11:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ateneo the first to be connected to the Internet? 

message: I don't get why an anon always replaces "Atenean" into "Bedan" (must be a Bedan hahaha). But on Wikipedia, an alumnus is a former student (so that includes people who are kicked out, dropped out, graduated, transferred into another school etc. Either that sentence should say "Atenean alumnus" or it should be removed. --Howard the Duck 09:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing to discuss here, actually. Does Benigno Aquino, Jr. fit the description of an alumnus? Yes. Does the Ateneo de Manila University acknowledge him as an alumnus? Yes. Case closed. Rmcsamson 14:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't get it why the anon insists doing it his/her way. --Howard the Duck 16:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Irrelevant. Ninoy Aquino's attending San Beda is irrelevant to his attending the Ateneo, and moreso with regard to this article. How San Beda considers Ninoy as an alumnus of San Beda is also irrelevant with regard to this article. Rmcsamson 12:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd agree with Rmcsamson here, Ninoy was both an Atenean and a Bedan, since this is the Ateneo article, Ninoy as an Atenean will be preeminent here, while on the SBC article, Ninoy as a Bedan would be the one's that is prominent. --Howard the Duck 08:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Benigno Aquino, Jr]]. 

message: I am tempted to edit the part of the article which speaks of the October Medal as that of our Lady of Mount Carmel.  But I am not sure, so I'd like to hear from others.
An inspection of the one being used today in October 2006 and when I was in the grade school back in the 1960s is clearly the Medal of the Immaculate Conception, more popularly known as Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal.  See for example http://www.amm.org/medal.htm 
Could the one who wrote that the Ateneo's October Medal is that of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel be referring to the October Medal before the 1960s?  I am sure that today and for the past few decades, the Ateneo October Medal is the Medal of the Immaculate Conception attached to a blue ribbon -- which would make a lot of sense since the Immaculate Conception is the patroness of the school.
Vdejesus 14:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the October Medal really that of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel? 

message: I'm compiling all of the scores of all Ateneo-La Salle games since 1924. Anybody can help out at User:Howard the Duck/Pinoy. --Howard the Duck 18:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ateneo-La Salle Rivalry 

message: Should we include it in the article? --Mithril Cloud 13:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if relevant. A lot of university articles don't even bother placing rankings. If they are to be placed here, the question is, what data should be included? The precise statistical data is available, as well as a response by the university administration with regard to the ranking.  Rmcsamson 15:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The THES-QS rankings 

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replies: text: In line with the review, this article will be undergoing over the next 48 to 72 hours. Updates and additional information may be added. Rmcsamson 12:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As of this writing, I've added in-line citations and copyedited some of the text. The next edits will include an expansion of the lead, additional images, and updating section information. Rmcsamson 07:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Re-Review and In-line citations 

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thread_title: GA comment

message: Can anyone upload a photo of the Blue Eagle Gym? --Howard the Duck 16:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested pic 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:AteneoBlueEagle.jpg

message: This is very important for readers and researchers, due to the need to know the rank in the world: In the 2008 global "Top 500" ranking, by The Times Higher Education Supplement and consultancy Quacquarelli Symonds (THES-QS), only 2 Philippine universities remained in the list: University of the Philippines (398th in 2007 from 299th in 2006), and  Ateneo (451st from 484th). La Salle and UST dropped out of the Top 500 (519th and 535th, respectively).  GMA NEWS.TV, RP universities get low rankings; La Salle, UST dropped out of Top 500--Florentino floro (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ranking

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "aegisgeneral" :
**  The Ateneo Aegis (Official Yearbook)
** Ateneo Aegis (official yearbook)
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thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: Although there is already a plastic watch to commemorate the 150 years of Ateneo, I think that there should be an official Ateneo watch made by TAG-Heuer.  I just saw the online alumni store of Harvard which has for sale Harvard TAG-Heuer watches.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.96.181.170 (talk) 10:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ateneo watch 

message: I really think there are very few pictures in the History section. Doesn't the school have an entire archive of pictures from old times? Can't we put them here in the relevant sections? Thanks. :D  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.147.202.11 (talk) 03:40, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a good idea, but there may be issues regarding copyright. I'm sure some of the images are old enough to be in the public domain, but I don't know if they can just be released for posting here. Rmcsamson (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: This page should not be speedy deleted because...
I fail to see how this article is a hoax.  There clearly is a university with this same.  The only hoax is the CSD nomination.--Johnsemlak (talk) 10:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: What is the basis for laying claim to being a "research" university? The standard followed by the US universities (e.g. Harvard) is the Carnegie classification which requires at least 50 doctorate programs to qualify as a "research university." Ateneo graduate admissions lists no more than 13.--131.225.23.168 (talk) 05:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ateneo a research university? 

message: section should be severely trimmed or moved to its own article. but I don't support a standalone article because it is rather crufty and really full of primary sources. LibStar (talk) 00:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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message: Hello The Banner and Patrick Cristiano, I have read the WP:UNIGUIDE, specifically under WP:UNIGUIDE#Article structure, and it states that in the MOS:LEAD section of the article, "Individual notable alumni should be mentioned only in extraordinary cases; typically, statistics such as X Nobel laureates are preferred." and for Noted People, "For very old, very large, or very prestigious schools it may be more appropriate to use categories ("Alumni of", "Faculty of", etc. note that "Alumni" categories are only for former students, including graduates; current students are not considered alumni) instead, limiting the explicit list to very well-known persons (heads of state, historical figures, etc.) and adding a narrative summary of statistics on such things as Nobel Prizes, other prestigious awards, and so on.".
I agree that my writing of notable alumni in both the Lead and Alumnni sections are superfluous. I didn't know nor did I consult any guidelines prior. However, according to the guideline, having a concise list of notable alumni is not considered WP:PROMO. Moving forward, I would then like to edit it back into the article, following the guidelines with a neutral tone, and using some of the universities in WP:COLLEGE#Showcase articles as references. I would like to hear what your thoughts and feedback are on this and I hope we can come to an agreement as to how this will be written. Thank you. Codayoda (talk) 12:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Greetings! I think it would be best if you first post your draft here in the talk page, so that we can give feedback on it before publishing. Thanks! signed, Pat talk 10:18, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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