Talk:2007 Samjhauta Express bombings

message: Does anyone know the correct sum of money for the families of the deceased?  It is listed in the article as 10,00,000.IronLance532 05:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indian Railway Minister Lalu prasad yadav announced Rs. 10 lakh compensation for next of kin of those killed in this accident and Rs. 50,000 for injured people. Pakistani Prime Minister announced Rs. 5 lakh and 1 lakh for same respectively. Kittu 06:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: Why was it changed to 2007 Samjhauta Bombings?Samjhuata bombings were fine.The change was pointless.Am I the only one annoyed with changing the heading of everything to the year or even the date it happened? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dermo69 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's usually good practice to have the year of the incident in the title of the article. It helps disambiguate, say if this happens again. Nishkid64 17:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the date thing is pretty worthless unless another occurs, but there is plenty of precedent. Joshdboz 19:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, almost all other disaster or incident articles have the year or even the entire date in the article title. Nishkid64 22:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: An expressway is a type of highway. The train that this occurred on is called the Samjhauta Express, so we have taken that name in the article title. Nishkid64 23:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooops. Sorry. ffm 00:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: ALthough the following satement is sourced but this only make guess of the situation there is no offical kind of thing
"Initial media reports suggest that the prime suspects in the bombing are the Islamic groups Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed, both of whom have been blamed for many high-profile bombings in the past. Retrieved on Feb. 19, 2007 "
SO i removemed it put it here.User talk:Yousaf465
:A fair removal, I guess. I've revamped the Investigation section to include the suspects the police have announced, and other people being questioned. Nishkid64 19:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that I restored this passage. The reasoning is if Lashkar and Jaish are not to be mentioned for the reasoning described above, the same would apply to Purohit et al. No subsequent report or citable finding has ruled out Jaish and Lashkar from the list of suspects. Nothing concrete beyond a suspicioun has been established against Purohit et al to link them to this case. If one list of suspects is mentioned , there is no need to exclude the others. Otherwise , the article is not neutral and balanced anymore. Thanks.--Internet Scholar (talk) 20:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Passage removed 

message: Some one has completely vandalized the page using words not suitable for an encyclopedia.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.144.182.146 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. I have also semi-protected the page because there are not many people watchlisting the page, and the vandalism goes unnoticed for hours. Nishkid64 19:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: A link to an external weblog was removed for NPOV violation  
SahirShah 10:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. Someone else added their own blog which linked to Siddharth Varadarajan's editorial on the whole peace situation. I removed that blog link, as it was just pure advertising. I replaced it with the direct link. Nishkid64 17:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: * "on the "Friendship Express", " - please use the actual name of the train - Samjautha Express and "Friendship Express" in brackets. On rethink, i don't think we need the phrase in the sentence.
**Fixed. Nishkid64 (talk) 18:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I'll work on it. Nishkid64 (talk) 17:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added the details now. Tell me what you think. Nishkid64 (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Article is good to go. --Kalyan 02:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good work Nishkid64 Thank you!. (Hypnosadist) 17:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review comments 

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thread_title: Automatic addition of "class=GA"

message: Dear fellow contributors
MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for the raw formatting, irrespective of whether or not dates are autoformatted. MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this. 
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message: The sources and paragraph on Abhinav Bharat were removed by me because the articles establishing Islamic groups' responsibility postdate the articles claiming to establish Abhinav Bharat's responsibility. I'm expecting a rational and reasoned response against the removal. (The Hindu 11/25/2008) notes that it could have been the handiwork of Abhinav Bharat, but an Intelligence Bureau quote from February 17, 2009 states that the LeT conducted the attacks. The US Treasury report, cited in this piece by Outlook in July 2009 also names Qasmani and the LeT responsible.Pectoretalk 16:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, suspicions were raised in October of 2009 on TheIndian news here. Then, in May of 2010, it was reported confirmed on Outlook India here. And then this goes into much further detail. From the looks of it, it's possible that multiple groups were involved in different bombings, the link between them being Purohit. He organized all of it, it seems. But, either way, the Abhinav Bharat were definitely involved. SilverserenC 17:01, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To start off, your first source merely says the CBI is "investigating" their role. The Outlook article does not even mention Samjhauta! Lastly, your Eurasia Review article claims that the bombing is considered "unresolved" and ends its discussion on the Samjhauta bombings with "In 2009, however, the United States Treasury Department attributed the attack to top Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) operative Arif Kasmani who, it said, was funded by Karachi-based ganglord Dawood Ibrahim Kaksar." So we are left with the Intelligence Bureau and the US Reports stating the Samjhauta bombings were the work of LeT, and claims that the CBI is "investigating" the issue. The current version of the page states that the Hindu angle was investigated, and that the IB and the Treasury state that it was the LeT, with no qualifiers or modifiers, reflecting what is actually in the text.Pectoretalk 21:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are currently investigations going on that started around May of this year, after the US investigation. See here and here. SilverserenC 22:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which still does not justify your addition of only the "Hindu terrorism" category to the page when the completed investigations have pointed fingers at the LeT.Pectoretalk 22:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops, good point. Fixed. SilverserenC 22:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Investigations

message: Was there a good reason why this sourced material was deleted in February? --JN466 12:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm guessing not. I've been idly watching this for the last year and I'm afraid the quality may have degraded since it became an FA. The nominator hasn't been active here at all. --Andy Walsh (talk) 15:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hrmph. There are actually recent updates on the investigation: . Apparently, Indian officials have now stated that Abhinav Bharat was responsible. --JN466 16:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted material

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thread_title:  Dead link 3 

message: Do we have stats of how many killed and injured were Pakistanis. According to article total number of people killed were 68.Spasage (talk) 15:59, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Pakistani Passengers killed in attack

message: No investigation has been concluded, hence neither "Islamic terror" nor "Hindu terrorism" should be added to the page. Any readditions are violations under WP:WTA and will be sumamrily reverted.Pectoretalk 16:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg192.aspx
this is a reference link for Samjauta Express blast and few people connected.111.91.95.232 (talk) 16:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Treasury information 

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message: @59.182.179.208, could you please stop removing sourced information from the article without a valid reason? As explained, WP:NPOV and WP:RS requires us to adhere to the cited information. If something is backed by reliable sources, it qualifies for inclusion. The organisation in question has been accused of involvement, eg. Maharashtra government moves to ban Abhinav Bharat. Whether it has been convicted or not is irrelevant, as Wikipedia is not a mouthpiece for governments and courts. The information is there based on the coverage. If you have countering information backed by reliable sources, feel free to add it to the article. But please refrain from removing sourced content. Thanks, Mar4d (talk) 12:17, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: I request the editors to rewrite the page after reading following report by Rajat Sharma who is a journalist from India TV.
http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india-samjhauta-express-blast-how-officials-connived-to-ensure-prime-accused-pakistani-national-was-let-off-despite-evidence-387479
Times group report:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/samjhauta-express-blasts-upa-cover-up-questioned/articleshow/59261489.cms
S Gurumurthy also Exposed Pak’s Hand Behind Samjhauta Blast in 2013 with Crucial Rebuttals
http://rightactions.in/2017/06/21/see-how-s-gurumurthy-exposed-paks-hand-behind-samjhauta-blast-in-2013-with-crucial-rebuttals/
There is also Times Now News Hour Debate over this issue.
Did UPA 'Discharge' Pakistan's Terrorist? | The Newshour Debate (20th June)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO_8OzYcEgI
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Swami16 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done. We can't exonerate or accuse anyone merely based on some reports and claims but will add it as their report in a neutral manner. 103.40.199.110 (talk) 05:15, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  How officials connived to ensure prime accused Pakistani national was let off despite evidence to nail him 

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