Talk:Intercity Express/Archive 1

message: I found several sentences, particularly under 'trivia', to be unclear.
I think I've looked at and copyedited most things so the article reads better. Sticki 12:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "The first generations were derived from the then-new class 120 electric locomotives."
Does first generations here mean first-generation trains or first two generations of trains? The next paragraph discusses the third generation, so I would assume the latter is meant.
:ICE 1 and ICE 2 have almost the same locomotives which were derived from the class 120. --FloSch 08:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First Generations?

message: "The main differences from the original ICE-Ts are several cost-cutting measures, giving those trains a 'cheaper' look and feel."
This appears to be a POV and should either be deleted or explained. Is the ride quality noticeably poorer? Are there more defects and malfunctions? What cost-cutting measures were used?
Are there sources for any of these comments, or is this one person's POV? 71.131.226.22 06:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Less space, reduced services (no audio service anymore) and cheaper materials are the main points here. I wouldn't say this is POV but I might be wrong. Those are hard facts, no personal opinions. --FloSch 08:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ice T

message: "When those problems were fixed and the train finally ran without apparent problems in December 2002, a train derailed because of a broken axle."
If a train derails because of a broken axle, it is not running "without apparent problems." I think I know what is meant (i.e., that the other problems had finally been solved), but the sentence still needs to be cleaned up or deleted. I would prefer to delete it, but perhaps changing ran without apparent to seemed to be able to run without problems would be adequate, although a couple of other changes might still be in order. 71.131.226.22 06:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is self-contradictory in "Just when those problems were fixed (and it appeared as if the trains were running without problems), an axle broke and caused a train to derail"? If you have a better way of saying this be bold! --Qualle (talk) 09:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-contradictory Statement

message: "There are also silent carriages where laptops, mobile phones and other 'noisy' equipment should not be used. These carry a sticker displaying a whispering symbol."
What does the whispering symbol look like? 71.131.226.22 06:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an image of the symbol used in the train. --FloSch 08:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: Could we move this from InterCity Express to InterCityExpress ? It's a redirect to here right now, so the page cannot be moved by an ordinary user. 
The naming convention is the CamelCase word, as with RegionalBahn, RegionalExpress, InterCity et al; it was only the InterCity Experimental (the ICE-V) that had a space in its name.
--doco (☏) 10:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A Redirect with only one history item can be overwritten by any user (in most cases, there seem to be a few exceptions) --Qualle (talk) 07:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's sweet. I wasn't previously aware of that. --doco (☏) 20:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: I travelled around most of Germany on these trains during the world cup and thought they were great! It was an absolutely amazing way to travel. Canderra 17:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I found the ICE a fantastic way to travel intercity!