Talk:WonderSwan

message: A request was made to WP:VG/A for an assessment. I've left the rating as is; stub-class mid importance, as the article has several problems despite its short length. Some suggestions:
*Only the GamePro source is reliable, the other two are user-contributed and cannot be used as sources.
*The article is already marked for original research in one place, there's also some weasel words.
*It needs expanding, and some good sources are going to be needed to do that.
Hope that helps. Someoneanother 22:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject videogames assessment

message: Um . . . picture anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeloow (talk • contribs) 07:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graphic 

message: Why on earth does the thing request bloodtype? 86.132.141.215 03:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How else will it tell you your horoscope? ;) Jtrainor 00:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Touche.Tejsiofjdoij (talk) 21:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, blood types play a special role in Japanese culture, and the WonderSwan was developed by Bandai. See Blood types in Japanese culture for further details. 88.104.151.185 (talk) 16:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bloodtype? 

message: I played the WSC port of Final Fantasy IV and realized that the sounds were primitive compared to the original SNES, almost 8-bit sounding. 75.107.170.147 (talk) 17:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound 

message: Might as well merge the two articles since there is only one or two sentences to describe the wonderborg.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.223.11.12 (talk) 18:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wonderborg

message: When did it go OUT of production?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.236.142 (talk) 08:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info. 

message: How much did it cost? 88.68.210.111 (talk) 21:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price? 

message: Wasn't it a fifth generation console? WonderSwam Color is indeed a sixth generation one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.1.171.212 (talk) 22:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generation 

message: ;K-tai Impress
*Wonderborg
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color
*Wonderswan color games list
*Wonderwave
*Wonderwave
*Wonderwave
*WonderGate
*WonderGate
*SwanCrystal
*SwanCrystal
*SwanCrystal
*SwanCrystal
*MP3 accesory
;Famitsu
*Wonderswan - Wonderswan Color
*Wonderswan Color
*SwanCrystal
*SwanCrystal
*Wonderswan - Wonderswan Color - SwanCrystal - Wonderwitch
-- Lucia Black (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: refs

message: The article state a the Wonderswan use NEC V20, but first it not directly a NEC chip, it is branded Bandai, and contain more than just the CPU, and the core used seems to be more a V30, maybe a V30MZ like. Godzil (talk) 09:21, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  CPU 

message: Before reverting changes, read the changes content.
The changes I've made yesterdays are not falling in the "not according to reliable sources" rule. I am, unfortunately, one of the few reliable source on the WonderSwan as I'm working on documenting it. The changes I've made was just simple correction of things that was wrong, and clearly "not according to reliable sources" (especially the note about storing game save in the console itself) all the rest was rewording and correction of incorrect information (like the "512KB" VRAM size, anyone that knows a bit about the WonderSwan will laught at that statement)
As for the CPU, the NEC V20 is a 8088 clone, the WonderSwan use an embedded version of the NEC V30 (a 80186 clone) and the MZ (which is a "soft" version of the NEC V30) is the closest version, there are slight differences, but it's the closest version, and it CAN'T be a NEC V20. I'm sorry that Wikipedia mixed the V20 and the V30 on the same page, but they are quite different.
Godzil (talk) 09:44, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything in the article needs to be verifiable through reliable sources (see the vetted games sources at WP:VG/RS). If you have an affiliation with the subject (a conflict of interest), I recommend drafting your proposed changes on the talk page so that others can discuss them, and if they feel they are checked and appropriate, will add the changes to the article themselves. If you proposed a change that was reverted, through the bold-revert-discuss cycle, you should talk out the proposed change on the talk page (here) before reverting back and forth. Edit warring only leads to punitive actions and doesn't actually fix the article.  czar 16:04, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  As what  has said, any information must be verifiable through reliable sourcesthat's how Wikipedia works: "verifiability, not truth". I reverted your edits because when I looked at the changes you made, it make me an impression that you did not provide sources for these changes, and they aren't given in sources such as  and . You mentioned in the edit summary that your changes are from . What reliable current source are you referring to? --  Hounder4 17:51, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok; So please first try to find any reputable sources that claim what the stupidity I corrected in this article you try to enforce, and then you will see if the change I made are valid or not. I don't see why this article as it is currently has been accepted as none of the claim are true and verifiable. The WonderSwan Color have 64KB of SRAM internally and 16K for the B&W, the NEC CPU is a variant of the NEC V30 that's all. The USGamer is just citing WIKIPEDIA for the spec! It's absolutely NOT a reliable source, or you accept to have cyclic sources, you made an article with error, manage it to be quoted from a "reliable source" so the error become the truth? That a nice point of view: I'm one the few person that currently work on the WonderSwan to document it, I helped trap15 on some part of the documentation of the wonderswan (as I'm making my own) that you can find here: http://daifukkat.su/docs/wsman/ To be honest the Wikipedia Article before the major changes made a few years ago on this article was much more correct than the pseudo spec you will find now. If people working on the device are NOT reputable, I'm sorry, but no one can make any articles. All the refs cited in this article are coming from people that never try to program or knows how this device work. I'm sorry, but if you rely on journalist for accuracy, Wikipedia is just a bunch of nonsense. And for the NEC V20, the US gamer is one of the only article on the Web that state that the CPU is a NEC V20, proof that it is based on current wrong wikipedia article. Another proof? But maybe the website (In japanese) of the people that made the wonderswan is not a reputable one? CAIRO is the big brother of the ASWAN chip which is the variant used in the wonderswan: https://web.archive.org/web/20071023111112/http://www.koto.co.jp/products/mono_sp.html What can we see here? "CPU V30MZ (compatible with i80186)" I'm sorry if you are so blind to not let people update and correct SMALL mistakes on a wikipedia article without putting a ref on every possible word. If it's really like you want to work I don"t care, but wikipedia will never be a good encyclopedia at the end if you still want to work like this. And for proposing a draft? For small correction on the article? Are you kidding me ? The major changes that put all this errors has never been drafted. But also, maybe the non english version of Wikipedia are not reputable enough? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WonderSwan_Color The German version of the WonderSwan page is much more clear than the english one, because it didn't try to put every possible bit of information in only one article, and the specs are correct there. (No in fact there is a small mistake too, but comparing to the one in the english article...) But I promise I will no longer touch this article, and let it rot where it is with all the mistake it can contain. Cheers Godzil (talk) 13:10, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Hounder4 and any other try to revert correction 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:WonderSwan-Black-Left.jpg, :File:WonderSwan-Color-Blue-Left.jpg, and :File:SwanCrystal-Wine-Left.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 20, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurbs at Template:POTD/2016-06-20/1, Template:POTD/2016-06-20/2, and Template:POTD/2016-06-20/3. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:57, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:WonderSwan-Black-Left.jpg]] +2 to appear as POTD soon 

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message: As with the Game Boy Color, these WonderSwan Color exclusives were clear cartridges and refuses to play if you're playing on older WonderSwan models. Dual mode carts will work with all WonderSwan models. --2601:C8:C001:9AF0:5458:BDD2:EB9C:F0E7 (talk) 01:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  WonderSwan Color Cartridges 

message: From "Also included in the handheld was built-in memory allowing players to save their game." this information exist on only one non technical article, written by people who don't know a lot about the WonderSwan itself. Can someone even list a game that would use that feature?
The problem is: there is none. And that's easy to check, no emulator support writing to the internal EEPROM, and it would be a mess as there is no filesystem or equivalent there for a game to store data.
So does someone have access to an official SDK or something a bit more meaningful than a single article to keep that false sentence in this article? --217.156.156.69 (talk) 15:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Just strip it out.  That's the easiest way to handle it if it's not something that defines the article.  I've already removed it; no need to necessarily try and "disprove" it.  Usually with discussion, things like this can be handled.  Red Phoenix talk 15:42, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal Memory "storage" 

message: in the 'WonderSwan' article its says that its sixth gen console but in the 'fifth generation of video games consoles' article the WonderSwan is there i think someone needs to change that Justthat1guyinwiki (talk) 16:54, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  what gen is the WonderSwan in?