Talk:List of Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes

message: Somehow, "Inca Mummy Girl" has been bent so it is redirected to the main Buffy page. I'm not sure how that happened, and even less how to undo it, but this doesn't seem to be right. -- Wolf Deunan 21:07, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Agreed. It was redirected by User:Lucky 6.9 because of, I presume, bad writing. I'll restore and clean it up. -- Wapcaplet 03:41, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inca Mummy Girl redirect 

message: I find annoying the lack of a quick link back from every episode to the episode listing by season. The link to the category doesn't seem the best one. --Doppelgängland 14:18, Jul 14, 2005 (GMT)
:Agreed. If only someone'd go thru all the pages now to fix that. On a related note, the link to the List is included only near the top of the article for each episode. I wish constantly that there were a more prominent link, such as in the sidebar. Xiner 23:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick links back to listing 

message: The season # column headings are confusing. The column labeled seasons means TV season and then season # means sequence within a season.  Suggest changing column header "season #" to sequence or order, or defining the column purpose.   Wrickl (talk) 01:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season numbering 

message: Before editing the page any further, I realized I should ask veterans here first. Should the episode summaries here give away the plot/ending? I find it useful to have an episode listing that doesn't reveal much (like this) and episode pages that tell all. -- xiner, Feb. 2006
:I agree that not too much should be given away -- Paxomen 04:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, my bad. My friend Pallescere and I were the ones editing the pages. I just did season 7 and I tried to make the summaries less spoilery, lol. :) Binthemix 08:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I then butchered your work...I was actually referring to the S1-S4 summaries originally. Thanks a lot for improving the page, though. I wouldn't have attempted it. Xiner 00:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers in summaries 

message: In order to resolve the long standing debate over fair use of screenshots on List of Lost episodes, I am now trying to resolve the issue under the belief that the issue is an opinionated matter and not a matter of policy. Talk:List of Lost episodes#Fair use criteria number 8.  I ask that people share their comments, but please try to keep the conversation in this section focused.
One thing that works against us is that the conversation tries to defend too many points at once. Try not to respond to comments about other aspects of the debate, and just take this one step at a time. Basically, respond if you think this is an opinionated matter regarding policy point 8 of WP:FUC or not.
I believe if we can break through on the issue of point 8, the rest will fall into place. -- Ned Scott 08:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshots as fair use 

message: If somebody is interested in Justice League Unlimited, please go to the List of Justice League episodes to help fix that page, meet this one's high quality standarts.Some users refuse to expand info and create article per episodes, even though they know the existence of the wikiproject and well developed pages like the sub-articles here.--T-man, the wise 02:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed in Justice League Unlimited 

message: There's no consensus that images aren't allowed, so removing them without discussing is a bad idea.  If it's ever going to be a featured list, it will probably be a version with images. - Peregrinefisher 19:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I sincerely apologize for the lazy work done on the episode descriptions. In the following month, I will create a spoiler-free list, improve all fair use image rationales, and finally finish the episode descriptions then submit it again on FLC. Michaelas10 (T|C) 16:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured list status

message: Could we get a listing of all of the BtVS/AtS crossovers, like in the List of Angel episodes? I was looking for the corresponding episode to Chosen, since Angel obviously crosses back over for the finale, and I realized that there are no crossover listings (such as for "Pangs") on this page at all. Zekintha 12:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buffy/Angel Crossovers 

message: ( [Moved discussion to Episode naming dispute, so that all discussion on the same topic in one place ) - Paxomen 12:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving articles  

message: Does anyone know the actors who have appeared in Angel, Firefly, and Buffy? If this is somewhere in Buffyverse I can't find it!
thanks,
~M —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Margeeolio (talk • contribs) 00:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crossover actors 

message: Maybe it's just me, but I swear in the last few months a bunch of the individual episode pages have lost a ton of really good info. It's like somebody went on a crusade to rid these pages of anything even slightly skewed in one direction or another. For example, several episodes used to have blurbs about them being considered one of the best or worst in the show's history by either the show stadd or a large community of fans, complete with links to the articles citing these ratings. Now? Nothing. The article for "I, Robot" used to have a blurb about how it was almost universally considered one of the weaker episodes in the series, and included links to other examples, and even had links to interviews with Whedon, producers and writers where they backed up their opinions. Now? All gone.
I've been looking at Buffyverse episode pages and it seems like EVERY single one has been neutered to the point of uselessnes. Whoopee, I can read an overly detailed plot synopsis, but I can't read about well-documented behind-the-scenes drama, even when it directly influenced what we ended up seeing onscreen? I call bullshit.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.196.61 (talk • contribs) 
:The "I Robot, You Jane" article had a comment about how the crew regularly poked fun at the episode in interviews.  It did not have any links to these interviews or evidence that they'd occurred.  The claim sat there unsourced for eleven months, and then I removed it. If other, similar comments have been removed from episode pages, then it's likely they were equally unsourced.  If you've got "links to interviews with Whedon, producers and writers where they backed up their opinions" then that kind of info is absolutely appropriate for the page.  We've just not had those sources before. --Nalvage 14:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode info 

message: Several users (myself included, now) have removed all the screenshots and DVD cover art from this article based on the official Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy. Several anonymous users have been attempting to restore them claiming, when they bother to include an edit summary at all, that "consensus has not been reached on this issue". The problem is not one of consensus, as there will always be folks who willingly ignore copyright law. To stem the tide of non-free material added simply because it's easy and interesting, without regard to copyright issues, there is now a cross-project effort to remove all non-free material unless it passes all ten of the criteria listed in the aforementioned policy page.
To be specific, use of screenshots and DVD cover art in "List of X episodes" articles violate the following clauses:
:3. Minimal use. As little non-free content as possible is used in an article. Short rather than long video and audio excerpts are used. Multiple items are not used if one will suffice. None is used if one is not necessary.
::* Proponents have failed to make a solid case for why screenshots are necessary for episode lists.
:5. Significance. Non-free content contributes significantly to an article (e.g., it identifies the subject of an article, or illustrates specific, relevant points or sections in the text); it does not serve a purely decorative purpose.
::* Proponents have failed to demonstrate how images in an episode-list article "illustrate specific, relevant points" and are not just "decorative". Furthermore, they do not identify the subject, but (in this case) merely 150 or so sub-topics of the subject.
There may be other violations for specific images, like proper image description pages (#10), but these two are pretty much nails in the coffin, regardless of how strenously folks argue for these popular additions to the episode lists. We must remember that non-free material must be considered not only in the context of Wikipedia, but also of any downstream use (including commercial use) of its content, which requires the more strict burden of justification that the Wikimedia Board is requiring these days.
This removal is apparently taking place across all episode list articles. As a cross-project initiative, it should not require a consensus for each TV-show article editing group. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anonymous editors trying to restore the non-free material continue to make arguments unsupported by specific information or links to discussions in the edit summaries (e.g., "This Issue is currently being discussed by the Admin" [sic]). Unless they choose to participate in this discussion by providing such evidence HERE, in the talk page where it belongs, other editors should feel free to summarily revert these attempts. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of non-free images 

message: What are these seasons??
:Season eight is a comic.  Seasons nine and ten are non-existent, and the mention of them was added by a vandal. --Nalvage 02:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 8, 9 and 10 

message: I propose we add in which episode of the Buffy corresponds with which episode of Angel in this and the Angel episode list. Hyacinth (talk) 06:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode correspondence between series

message: Hey, how come only the season one section has the writers listed with the episodes? kingdom2 (talk) 18:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writers 

message: FYI Ikip (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Buffyverse objects]] closing in a few hours 

message: It's been brought to my attention that some of the episode synopses may be direct copyright violations of the DVD sleeves/inserts for the various Buffy series releases. Does anyone have these to double-check? I'll try to confirm this myself, but per WP:COPYVIO prompt action will need to taken if this is the case. EyeSerenetalk 13:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The big box has no episode summaries that I've noticed. Can't say about the separate season packaging. —Tamfang (talk) 19:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright problems in article text 

message: Looking at the references for the ratings per episode, the Nielsen ratings are stated and not the actual figures (in millions) per episode.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.244.29.21 (talk) 12:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong ratings