Talk:One Piece/Archive 1

message: I have altered 
"As the popularity of One Piece swelled after Evan became a character in Shonen Jump" to "As the popularity of One Piece swelled with its serialization in Shonen Jump"
I'm placing this in discussion because this "Evan" has persisted throigh numerous revisions; perhaps I am missing something. If Evan is someone other than a vandal who slipped his name into the text, restore, but please let us know who "Evan" is!
Bustter 23:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is ''Evan?''

message: Lately I've been hearing rumors from the Arlong Park fourms that 4KIDs has suddenly dropped One Piece from it schedule. Can anybody clarifiy this? 
It won't be airing on Saturday, November 19th.  However, this doesn't mean it won't be on the week after.
I'd take a wait-and-see attitude with this. It's easy to get carried away in fanboyish optimism (or wishing death on 4Kids, whichever) and throw caution to the wind, but I'd rather make sure that it's officially off the schedule for the foreseeable future, until commenting on it in the article proper. Wikipedia is designed to give the facts, after all. Any reporting on rumors should only be done afterward, in light of what actually emerges, either to give an idea of an event's context, or to explain away a commonly-held mistaken viewpoint. --Julian Grybowski 07:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: One Piece Cancelled in the U.S?

message: I love the manga, but the anime is so strange...
 
The editing to make it "more appealing to kids" has something to do with it.--Kultz 03:08, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The One Piece T. V. show is so strange... 

message: I've recently uploaded a set of One Piece images depicting full-body pictures in high quality .PNG of the entire crew, and I must say that a great deal of hard work went into restoring, editing, and producing those images. I don't appreciate the hubris of a couple members here deliberately reverting back to poor-quality, shapshot based images. Don't deface Wikipedia anymore than it already is. If you have a problem with my images, please do not insult me by calling my hard work a "travesty," and instead adress me to my face. All of the flags here were done by me, with a steady hand and a couple of cheap JPEGs to use as models. Aside from Don Krieg (which is probably the worst of the bunch), I ask my flags to not be altered, either. I will revert all of the images back in due time, but not until people explain to me why they felt a snapshot was better than a full-body image reconstruction.
Drake Christopher Dragon 9:13, 30 SEP 2005 (UTC)
These keep getting changed for some reason. I thought most of them were pretty good for a while, but people come and change them with no explanation at all. -- STAREYe 19:55, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One Piece Image Editing

message: Maybe I should create a One Piece minor characters article, which has information on the minor characters of One Piece. WhisperToMe 16:44, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And merge most of the character pages? Yes please :) Philip Nilsson 17:40, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Piece characters 

message: It's actually both, or neither. The Japanese don't have 'L' (as the west know it) in their vocabulary, they have the Japanese 'R', which is kind of a cross between 'L' and 'R', so when things are translated with 'L' or 'R' in the name, it can come up as either, Like Kuririn is sometimes translated 'Krillin' or 'Luffy' to 'ruffy'. So, Eiichiro Oda didn't name him Zoro or Zolo, or named him both - however you want to look at it. However, if 'Zolo' is what he's known as in English, that's what it should be in the article, as it's just as correct. Sergeant Snopake & Mr Negotiator, 22:27, 20th of April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, the Japanese One Piece site uses "Zoro", while the new U.S. printings use "Zolo" WhisperToMe 00:00, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because it was translated as Zolo in the west. It's exactly the same as Zoro, it's just pronounciation. Sergeant Snopake 10:11, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You guys don't get it, do you? (Well, except WhisperToMe).  Oda and Toei have romanised it as Zoro.  Oda has shown he can differentiate between R and L, so it is Zoro.  Whatever attempt the author tries at converting something to another language, poor or not, shouldn't just be ignored.  Whether or not Wikipedia should use Zoro is a different matter, but to say they're the same is just ignorance--Cyberdude93 10:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, it's like this: The Japanese don't like saying 'election' because it sounds like another word, because of the way they pronounce their Rs. So, if Election was a charecter in an anime, it could easily be translated with an R rather than an L when brought to the west. However, if people like you just learned to pronounce the Japanese 'R', it would be pronounced the same way, just written diferently, because it would be THE SAME NAME. Mr Negotiator 12:07, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's like colour and color. If you're pronouncing it correctly, It's the same. Sergeant Snopake 15:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh this is just bull now.  Oda has clearly shown the ability to differentiate between English Ls and Rs.  Are you saying that you're going to nullify the extra detail he adds because he's Japanese?  Is it so hard for you to believe that some, if not many Japanese people can tell the difference, by learning English or otherwise?  Doesn't that make you racist?  And I CAN pronounce a Japanese R, don't know where the hell you got the idea I couldn't from.--Cyberdude93 17:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, try to remain civil. I meant no harm, and I never said that Oda could not differentiate between English L and R. Sergeant Snopake 22:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: It's both!!

message: Hi.  I think having separate articles for "story arcs" is both fancrufty, and unlikely to help users find the information they need.  I propose that we merge all of the separate story arc articles back here, and then voluntarily put them up for VFD.  Comments?  Nandesuka 16:33, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How about a single article, One Piece Story Arcs? Nandesuka 12:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge "story arc" articles into this one. 

message: I'm heavily involved in editing and improving the Dragon Ball-related articles (an unenviable job, I know), and while a lot of the information on those pages is dodgy and/or poorly written, one thing that the Dragon Ball pages have that the One Piece articles don't, is templates. These add both a professional look and a stylistic flair to articles, regardless of the quality of the page's content. So... anyone want to volunteer to modify the DB templates and create One Piece-themed images? (And once that's done, anyone want to help with implementing them?)
--Julian Grybowski 21:51, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Templates for characters / story arcs? 

message: It's just a thought of mine, but it might make for more coherent organization of this page if we separated the Japanese versions of the anime and manga from their English adaptations (to be put in an "English Adaptations" heading further down the page). If some industrious soul would like the job, go right ahead. Otherwise, I'll probably get to it eventually.
--Julian Grybowski 21:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Japanese version and English adaptations? 

message: By wikipedia's definition, a purist is "one who desires that a particular item remain true to its essence and free from adulterating or diluting influences".  Also "Use of the term may be either pejorative or complimentary".  So the original line read:
"One Piece purists (those who follow the original Japanese series) tend to frown upon the actions of 4Kids"
Which is essentially saying that people who don't want the series to be altered frown upon the editing that 4kids did.  Which is a bit redundant, but accurate.  The problem was that it defined purists as anyone who follows the japanese series.  Changing it to:
"Those who follow the original Japanese series tend to frown upon..."
would create another generilization, as not everyone who follows the japanese series looks down on 4kids for doing what they did.  So I changed the line to something more accurate:
"One Piece purists (mostly consisting of those who follow the original Japanese series) tend to frown upon the actions of 4Kids."
This shows that all purists desire One Piece to be unedited, and that not all purists (people who dislike the edits) follow the japanese series.
: That helps a little, although it still implies that everyone who dislikes 4Kids' edits is a "purist," a derogatory term usually reserved for people who hate all dubs.  I think this needs to be rephrased to something a little more unbiased, or taken out entirely (the second sentence could be rephrased to "The biggest criticism against the 4Kids adaptation of One Piece is that despite...").
The line is gone, and the second line was rewritten.
--155.246.15.34 01:02, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purists comment 

message: Looking around, I found this: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=62865, which states that One Piece sold over 100 million copies, not 10 million (which was changed recently). Therefore, I am reverting the change. I assume that it would count, say, someone buying the first 2 volumes as 2 sales, which would explain the numbers, seeing as how there are many volumes out. MegaSlicer 22:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copies Sold 

message: The only name I've ever heard to describe this section is "Water 7", eg. the Water 7 arc. I vote to change it.
Jongpil Yun 03:26, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shipwright/Nico Robin Saga 

message: Personally, I'm not a fan of some of the voices used in the series (the english voices of Sanji and of Bon Clay are dreadful to say the least), but is that truly a notable issue in this encyclopedia of the series? For instance, what if 4Kids did a wonderful job on the series (i.e. no huge edits, no changed lines of dialogue, no missing arcs) save for some characters having ear-achingly bad voices? Would we have a criticism section on this article to focus on the voice issue? Probably not, since this isn't a true fact-based critcism, it's in the eye of the beholder.
I just wanted to know what others thought of this issue
66.109.114.13 00:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice Acting Comment 

message: Could someone please provide the air date of the first episode to reference Blackbeard?  Thanks.  --Dan East 02:41, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackbeard 

message: There's a number of split arguments along this line, as well as various editing battles over many pages, regarding the proper romantizations of names. This issue *must* be solved in due time, and a standard must be established for which we must call the names. I would rather not have someone edit this page saying "oh, we already have that" because it's arsinine; as link mentioned above, people use romantizations based off of Null translations, Arlong Park translators (Stephen, Ocean, ooshi) or their own impressions. We must firmly agree, in HERE, on proper names for characters, and furthermore, establish whether the manga or Anime should hold prime canon when deciding name romanziation. I am almost certain Viz will keep Smoker's name "Major Smoker", rather than "Captain Chaser", but there will undoubtedly be a huge controversy here because people are keen on having the Anime, which is SECOND to the manga, as canon. C'mon, people, let's get things together.
-DCD
We have already decided on a style, DCD. We are using VIZ Media's conventions. WhisperToMe 19:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romanizations 

message: Um, not to intrude, but, it's not been confirmed that Franky is a crew member yet. There was only one color spread with him listed as such, and the reason is very ambiguous.
--He can be a temporary like Vivi or Mr.2.
If we really MUST list it under the Straw Hat crew, may I possibly suggest that we mention that it is purely speculative in parentheses right beside his name?
68.70.136.127 18:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franky? 

message: I've seen in only a few places his name actually listed in romaji as "Enel" (Anime News Network/ One Piece Grand Battle: Rush! come to mind), while I have never seen his name written as "Eneru" (except in Wikipedia, of course.) So I just wanted to make sure that there is indeed a final vote on the intended spelling of his name. Turk Ranma 18:43, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name: Eneru VS Enel 

message: Why did 4kids skipped about 30+ episodes?--—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.132.168 (talk • contribs) 
*Skip. Why don't you read one of the websites dedicated to this fact? - STAREYe 02:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did 4kids skipped about 30+ episodes? 

message: Does anyone else think the info on some of the characters is rather exsessive? Particularly with things about the latest story arc where people are adding new info every chapter. Plus lately people have been listing every attack by each character, which also doesn't seem nessisary to me. I posted something about this on some of the character talk pages, and done some summarizing, but I thought it might receive more attention here. - STAREYe 18:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive Info 

message: My mistake (see directly above), it IS in there, or has been put back. I have searched both fuji tv's site and toho animation's site for 高い定義テレビ (high definition television) OR HDTV AND ワンピース (One Piece)...ZERO HITS. I am removing this reference. It's ridiculous to think that a made-for-TV animation program is going to create a huge budgetary problem for itself by producing in high-def, anyway.  
The same graph mentions that individual character eye-catches were introduced after 207 episodes, and this is equally ridiculous -- the character-specific eyecatches have been there from the start -- Vivi even had one with her big duck, it seems that this guy was watching fansubs that omitted them until 207. 
Removing both of these statements...Others please see that they stay out, thanks. Bustter 19:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: HD out, and character eyecatch error

message: I'm sorry, but i don't realy think that this the correct name for that part of the story. Every event in these arcs originated from Nico Robin, so I think that the correct name would be Nico Robin Saga. To be more precise I'd like to separate Davy Back Fight, Water Seven and Enies Lobby, into three separate sagas, each one related to the previous, but anyway separated. Do you agree? Or at least, having DBF alone and W7 and EL only joined in Nico Robin Saga. I think because the World Government would play a major role after those events, so it is worthless to call now this arcs WG Saga. Cuttyflam
::I agree that the Davy Back Fight shouldn't be included with the other two, as it is not really related to anything. W7 and EL should definitely be put together though, as they are pratically the same arc. Perhaps it could be renamed CP9 saga? 24.91.120.11 16:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the Davy Back Fight should be included. The DBF arc is where Aokiji met the mugiwara and confirmed that Robin was traveling with them, so he could tell the CP9 which set up most of the plot for the saga. - STAREYe 15:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About the name "World Government Saga"

message: I've put all the one piece games I could find in the list of piracy computer and video games. Please veryfy/expand it! Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 02:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piracy games 

message: I think that the One Piece main article is far too long and could be seperated into sub-articles, which will have a link from the main article.
I wanted to add to the cast of other characters some article (Shanks, Whitebeard, ...) but when I tried editing I saw that it was already in there.
*Red-Haired Shanks
*Portgas D. Ace ("Portgaz D. Trace" in the English dub)
*Whitebeard (Edward Newgate)
*Blackbeard (Marshall D. Teach)
*Smoker ("Chaser" in the English dub)
*Aokiji
*The Navy
All these didn't show in the article.
Since I'm quite new to this, and it is quite a major change, I'd liked to discuss the idea first.
(Kurigiri 20:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortening the One Piece main article 

message: I've noticed that all of the characters attacks have been deleted. Is there are reason behind this, or is it some kind of prank? -SX
There is a reason, check Talk:Roronoa Zoro. Kurigiri 07:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attacks Deleted? 

message: I am curious to know why is D considered the family name? I think it is a family name though, but for the sake of the wiki article, we should be certain of what is being said. 
On another note, MONTBLANC NORLAND!!! is not a D. That was just a joke in one of the forums of Kaizoku Fansubs.  Although, it would have made lots of sense that Norland be part of the D family. There is still a chance for Oda to state this, but since he hasn't stated it, then we cannot assume it so. --Guille2015 02:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interresting. First can you please tell us in which episode this is, and which fansub subbed the episode you are refering. I dont like the Skypea arc to much, so it will be a pain for me to go through the entire are just to find a name. I do like the Norland part a lot, and i dont think they mention the D there either. Anyways, I am well aware of the "Big Brother" statement: "aniki" like Zoro is called by those two other Bounty hunters (i forgot thier names). Regardless, Luffy doesn not call Ace as "Aniki" he calles him Niichan (brother). Besides, everyone reacts and asks Luffy about his brother, and everyone in the Strawhat pirates ask and are in Awe that Luffy has a Brother. This case, not refered to as the honorary "Big Brother". Ace might be just a Half brother, or perhaps step brother, but they are Brothers!!!--Guille2015 01:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Will of D

message: A common reaccuring thing on all the One Piece pages is this - people are adding pictures to the pages WITHOUT license info... If you don't know it, find a picture on another one piece related page and copy + paste it (wikipedia picture pages can be edited too) onto the related pictures own page.  If you don't, the picture gets removed after 7 or so days. 
I keep seeing old 'removed image' messages here and there on the pages from past removed images and people are still doing this... One example I found, can't remember which of the two it was, was on either the Whitebeard pirates page or Whitebeard's own page.  We now don't have a ref to his flag anywhere.  I keep adding the licensing info whenever i see a picture without one, but I can't keep an eye on every one pice related page nor do I want to.  Can everyone PLEASE be careful with pictures.  Angel Emfrbl 21:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No license on pictures

message: And since I mentioned the subject of flags, can someone get pictures of the crew flags for their pages?  Just wondering because it seems silly we either don't have a page for the flags or their not on their owners wikipedia page... It might save us some time if we stick them on the One Piece terms page... I'm not too sure on that though.  Angel Emfrbl 21:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pirate flags a no-go?

message: Personally, I don't like how this has been set up. For example, Navy is listed in miscellaneous as opposed to groups; Smoker and Ao Kiji are listed, as opposed to just being under "Navy"; Gan Fall is listed when he is only a minor character; and several pages, such as "One Piece Terms", "Devil Fruits" and "One Piece ablilities" aren't listed. Exactly how does one go about changing it? Sigmasonic X 04:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have another thing to add to your point... Why do we have that template  on the same page as a list of characters?  The template lists characters in it just the same as the list of characters.  Is it nessacary for two lists of characters?  I think not. Well, I'm not gonna touch this despite I've pointed it out, I'm just raising the point. Someone else can decide if its important enough.  Angel Emfrbl 20:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: My thought are ditto, although Smoker and Aokiji having their own section should remain since they've played important roles in the storyline... Though it could get out of hand if other marines begin playing more important roles. Also, should the sotryline Arcs also be seperate?  I've noticed that if you click on the links on this one, you have trouble getting back to the rest of wikipedias one Piece pages via its links.  In other words, there are no links on it BACK to the main One Piece info pages.  Angel Emfrbl 14:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I linked the words One Piece in the arc listing to go back to the main article. Also, I think Smoker and Aokiji should be listed under the World Government section, but I didn't want to change that without checking what other people thought first. 24.91.120.11 16:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the "One Piece Characters" thing 

message: Are they any edits made in the Korean Version of One Piece--89.49.169.142 12:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censorship in the Korean Version 

message: The English manga used "Nefeltari Vivi" to refer to her. Which name did Oda intend? Did he intend Nefertari or Nefeltari? WhisperToMe 16:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to ask that question?  Nefertari of course. Angel Emfrbl 21:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nefeltari Vivi 

message: I think It'd be better to write a new page on One Piece Media than to keep the list of the songs the, ovas and the movies on the same page, to keep it more readable, just like Naruto or Bleach have. Cuttyflam 14:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I thought the same thing when I first saw this page, however, I wasn't sure how to handle all the access information here.  It needs to be done carefully, we have a lot of info to transfer here.  Angel Emfrbl 21:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One Piece Media Page

message: Okay something I just noticed.  We now have info spots for Blood types, height etc... Not really needed.  There isn't enough info to fill all those spots. I don't recall Oda ever mentioning what Luffy's blood type is even.  Also... Can someone put the Japanese text on this page for Shanks' name and his Name in Romaji (Hepburn) section. Heres the link to make things easier to find. Red-Haired Shanks.  I'd add it myself but I don't know this information.  Thanks in advance.  Angel Emfrbl 21:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see whats going on now with the characters templates, I retract my statement... But do we really need 'Blood type?'.  Oda has never mentioned anyones bloodtype, so that part isn't needed.  Angel Emfrbl 10:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think that blood information is useless, since Oda nver stated about it, even in the Data Books. Cuttyflam 11:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character templates

message: One Piece Grand Battle! I need some opinions and help in sorting out this page.  Its a mess and I don't even know where to begin.  Also, there is no link from this page or a relating page directly to this one... I'm not sure how you link in the One Piece games, but there is differently more then this one and we need to add info on them.  Angel Emfrbl 10:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Urgent clean up

message: We seem to have had a mess up on the 'other' section on the characters... We taking that apart for fun?  We now have buggy links on that.  And where is Shanks and the other missing ones?  Come on everyone, work together! Angel Emfrbl 08:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone messed up

message: Can someone set up the page for the One Piece games?  I only know one and there is more then that out there.  I can't link to them until we have more info on them.  One Piece Grand Battle! Angel Emfrbl 12:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One Piece Games

message: I used to read that article every so often, but it appears to be gone now. What happened to it? -- A WikiGuest
:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dub_Piece - It was deleted. WhisperToMe 03:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not suprising that broke wikipedias advertising rules.  Angel Emfrbl 06:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's [[Dub Piece]]? 

message: Could everyone please add more quotes here? Sigmasonic X 01:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: Okay today I've removed speculation and rumours... And £$%£ like that.  I'm having to check the One Piece pages daily to make sure peeps are screwing them up.  
Pages I've corrected today:
* Mihawks
* The 7 warlords
* Luffy's
* Zoro
* Shanks
* Portgas D. Ace
* Bounties
Now I don't mind doing this at all... But I shouldn't have to look through the pages everyday to correct information that has been posted by random peeps who are posting either a rumour or have not double checked their stuff.  I've also noted this much:  I've now removed speculated crew memebrs + their bounties (which are complete 5%&% so none of those characters have had bounties posted) from Gold Roger's page 3 times in the last WEEK.  Right now I have someone insist Dragon is a warlord when he is a revolotuionary on the 7 warlords page and I'm fighting a loosing battle to stop them from placing it there.  
Mostly, all this is the work of IP adress users who haven't signed up to Wikipedia.  Angel Emfrbl 07:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right I've won the war with whomever it was on the 7 Warlords page.  I've had to leave a footnote about placing speculations on that page.  Incidently I've resulted to placing such notes on several One Piece related pages.  This is not good having all those but they seem to hault speculations and rumours at least for a while.  Angel Emfrbl 08:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: More invisible notes inserted on blackbeards, mihawks and Shanks page... To ask people not to post rumoured bounties... I'm STILL wondering where these amounts are coming from. Angel Emfrbl 21:28, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attack of the Speculations 

message: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Piece Games I set up our games page and began to work on it... Got stuffed on what to do so waited for everyone to voice their opinion.  This guy comes along and now half our pages are being purposed to be deleted.  Peeps voice your opinion now or we'll loose those pages! >_<'  Gah!  This guy has nothing to do with One Piece at all as well. Angel Emfrbl 12:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right I'm trying to save those pages right now.  I've put reasons for keep on ALL the purposed deleted pages I can find.  Lets not let all our hard efforts be just deleted now.  If anyone can think of better reasons to save those pages then the ones I've listed, don'tbe hesitated to change them PLEASE! Angel Emfrbl 12:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: One Piece abilities Can't think up a reason to save that page... Need help with that one.  Angel Emfrbl 12:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watch out!  Deletion preposed on articles 

message: Okay, I'm tackling this starting Monday.  We don't reference our sources by listing the Manga, anime, SBS etc we got it from.  Starting this weekend I'm working on ways of getting that onto each page.  Everyone is welcome to debate how this should be handle.  For a example page, I'm gonna start with the Will of D page because thats the most splattered bits of info page we have.  
Why am I doing this?  So we have good sound pages (at last) that we can confirm information on just by looking up chapters.  And because of idiots on certain pages who are right now screwing them up with their 'clever' thinking by scrapping whole sections of information to right who sucks what part of the body... (Yeah complete idiots I add).  So, for the sake of being able to have something to look up for repairs to the data, I'm getting references on those pages even if its the last thing I do on Wikipedia!  Angel Emfrbl 16:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References on Pages 

message: what is a A Buter Call?
: You really want to know?... Angel Emfrbl 21:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buster Call 

message: I feel that the "Minor Characters" and the Pirate Crews articles should be changed up a bit. Since the "Cipher Pol" article, etc., include the members of their organization, I feel that each pirate crew should include the information on their crew mates that would normally be in the "Minor Characters" section. For example, the article on "Buggy's Band of Pirates" would take information on Mohji, Cabaji, and Alvida from "Minor Characters", and place it in there instead. However, the captain's bios would remain seperate for now. Sigmasonic X 16:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Angel Emfrbl votes this go ahead.  I'd offer some opinions but I'm in full agreement. This is a great idea!  Angel Emfrbl 18:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Again, this I'll agree on for the go ahead.  If you want to do that, I say "yes".  I off my support and help if required. Hmm... I think you'll have to adjust the standard pirate page where accordingly to suit the siturations... Thats all that can be done.  BTW, when I've done finishing the refs on each page I'll see if I can grab flag pictures for the pirate crew pages.  Angel Emfrbl 18:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I've actually been thinking about starting a Galley-La article for a while now, since the Cipher Pol one is much more stable and Galley-La is referenced everywhere... So, I just started writing that up, once I get it nicer I'll start it up, so that should help with a few characters on the minor characters page (well... I guess maybe only three, but still. XD) as well as just being a good reference... So, basically, don't worry about them, I've got it under control. ^_^ Murasaki Seiko 05:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, it's done. Galley-La Company Murasaki Seiko 04:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Great but don't forget with that page Ace is a travelling companion at the mo too!  This is great so far.  It looks like this might just be the answer to our Minor characters page prob.  Angel Emfrbl 21:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Very good job and idea! Let's keep the crews together!--Cuttyflam 13:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm done. What do you think? Sigmasonic X 02:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning "Minor Characters" and others 

message: If you don't the refs links will work but you won't have a list for them! Angel Emfrbl 18:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: What page are those "weapons" on? The ones that can destroy an entire island, etc recorded in history that Nico is learning about. --69.204.179.124 19:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One Piece terms Try here.  Angel Emfrbl 20:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapons? 

message: Shouldn't it be fantasy steam punk?
I dunno, so I wont change it, just brought it up. --Kewangji 17:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One Piece is a steampunk manga. By the Wikipedia definition, It concerns works set in the past, or a world resembling the past, in which modern technological paradigms occurred earlier in history, but were accomplished via the science already present in that time period. The presence of cola, refrigerators, trains, street lights, electricity, machine guns and chemical gas are all indicative of this. While the Den Den Mushi are living creatures, they are connected to radio transceivers. Since there isn't any evidence that One Piece *isn't* a steampunk manga, I'm putting the term back; I'll also label Ghost in the Shell cyberpunk, if it has not already been done so. 68.189.82.81 00:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

text: No one signs comments here!? One Piece is definitely steampunk. Dekimasu 02:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not gonna get too involved with this but here are my thoughts - steampunk it is not... Hints of Steampunk, now that it is. Angel Emfrbl 06:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steam punk? 

message: I've suggested merging several Baroque Works members' articles into the main Baroque Works page and several Shichibukai into the main Seven Warlords of the Sea article. Go to Talk:Baroque Works and Talk:Seven Warlords of the Sea to discuss. Sigmasonic X 06:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combine Articles? 

message: I've suggested that the animals section on the One Piece terms page be given their own page.  Reason for this:  To make the One Piece terms more like a One Piece Terms page and to limit the size of that page much in the same manner as the One Piece minor characters page has been seperate now.  Angel Emfrbl 09:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To add to that... I'm gonna set up a timeline page.  The basics I'm setting up today, however I'd appricate any help with setting it up.  Angel Emfrbl 18:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate article 

message: We can't say if Straw Hats are orthodox or unorthodox. In general we must trying to avoid adjectives, see the "steampunk" discussion, that often are misleading. They're f***ing pirates and that's it, un! (My Deidara side coming out! :P). I remove also the note abpout Oda being Watsuki assistant: better to say in his own article. 
:Plus I read about twentieth century romanticism and so on: I strongly suggest to remove it. 
Cuttyflam 07:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unorthodox and other things

message: If you noticed on Openings 1-4 in the Japanese version, there's an opening quote at the start of each episode. Maybe we can add them to the anime guide or something? RedEyesMetal 12:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're already in the One Piece section of Wikiquotes (see bottom of the main page). Sigmasonic X 04:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Quotes? 

message: I am not sure how useful this link is to yall, but here you go. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heads up 

message: Does anyone know whats wrong with the refs?  They have 'ab' selectables on each refs when there is only one ref per no.  They disappear when you remove and add them again.  So far, the Will of D and Minor Characters pages have had their refs turn like this.  I haven't checked other pages. Angel Emfrbl 12:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It happens also to me, when referring to a same chapter or SBS. You must simply ut a different name in <put_another_different_name_here>Cuttyflam 09:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah but this is happening even when you have unique names.  In fact thats why I brought it up here... Because it is happening.  If you click on 'a' whenever it comes up it doesn't take you anywhere... the second letter 'b' takes you to the reference.  Why this blank ref 'a' is appearing I don't know.  I'll put a example up here next time I see it.  Angel Emfrbl 16:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try purging the cache, that sometimes works. It's a server bug. --tjstrf 05:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bug???

message: Okay its obivous we all love to work on the character pages because every day I log onto wikipedia and see there are edits to them somewhere... But what about the OTHER One Piece Wikipedia pages??? They are below standard and need work badly, many have notices stating this that have been up there for a while.  Generally, the non-character pages such as these are all neglected.  The edits that are done to them are also few and far between.  
For now, lets focus less on characters and more on other pages, starting with the List of One Piece episodes as most of the pages linked to that are below standard.  I suggest we start by working out a page format such as 'New characters introduce', 'Story', 'Changes from manga to anime', etc... You get the idea.  I would love to see all these pages brought up to standard as out of ALL the english Wikipedia One Piece pages they are the ones that are the most overdue changes.  Some of them haven't been touched in several months. Angel Emfrbl 20:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neglected pages 

message: Okay... Its a problem.  People are too tempted to add their own site ads to that list.  So I'm removing it.  We should link only to offical sources anyway and HOPEFULLY it will stop people advertising forums and stuff on this page.  Angel Emfrbl 20:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay I'm trying it for a week to see what happens.  Angel Emfrbl 20:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Eperiment is over... Result = no fanstuff posted on wikipedia.  However we did get a case of fansubs being posted which is illegal and can't be allowed.  So my experiment failed.  It doesn't matter how we put it... Their gonna sneek on no matter what.  Angel Emfrbl 18:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing unoffical links

message: I think that we should move the episode summeries the Original names, and use the facts as they where presented in the original, pointing out the changes made, after all, look at how many episodes 4kids skipped, altered, meshed together, Et Cetera, Et Cetera. And because 4kids altered so many episodes, I do not believe them a reliable source. I already brought this up here. (Justyn 23:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As much as I support the original and despise the dub as much as you Justyn, I think this is going a bit too far. Heck, I thought the standardization of the word belli which is completely diverse among fans was far but this takes the cake. I don't like the dub but making all these info in wikipedia seems a bit too time consuming. There's already a website that's already devoted to this. I don't want to waste the creator's hard work and tolerance for bad dubbing by making our own. To be fair, let's just delete all those summeries, they're all hopelessly devoted to 4kids anyway. Besides we'll have to be forced to make alot of episode summeries to accompany them (they're very lonely looking alone). That's 104 episodes we have to summerized and if we were to be equal, we have also to do the Original Japanese ones. That's 280 and if we add them all up that's 384 episode summeries!! Worse yet, this is not counting the ones that have yet to be made. Lets keep the episode list and not the summeries. The story arc pages can serve as the summary of the episodes.CalicoD.Sparrow 12:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, the currency thing was not one of my finer moments, but, redoing episode summeries is a bit different, mainly, as it's not that hard to do. In fact, with a little stick-to-it-ness, we can turn the episode summeries that are so close to hopelessly devoted to 4kids, into completely accurate reditions of the original story. I'm actualy working on them, at the very least, to change the names to the accurate ones, and to make the most minor changes to move them away from the dub. (Justyn 14:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode summeries 

message: Adding to the anime section, could there be a list of plotholes in the series created by Toei and/or 4Kids? Just a suggestion RedEyesMetal 16:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me.  Angel Emfrbl 17:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That depends... depending on whether it had any source, it might be a WP:NOR violation. --tjstrf 18:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An episode of a TV show can count as a source.  Judging by hundreds of other articles, it's okay to say X happened which contradicts Y.  But if you're doing anything significantly complex (i.e. they said X, which vaguely implies Y, which probably contradicts Z), that'd be original research--Cyberdude93 18:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "An episode of a TV show can count as a source.  Judging by hundreds of other articles, it's okay to say X happened which contradicts Y".  Yes I agree that is the best way to handle it, you've raised a point about orginal research - it has to be handled with upmost care.  there are websites out there which do point out every little piece of change anyway. Angel Emfrbl 15:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Plot Holes created by Toei/4Kids 

message: There've been many battles in the series. So I was wondering if we showed put up a battle guide page. If we did do one I would put it in a layout like this:
Character vs. Character
Winner: the winning character
Occured in: Manga - manga chapter(s) & Anime - anime episode(s).
Description: What happened in the battle.
Conanfan1412 18:04, 07 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats pretty much own research.  Plus, it has ben featured on character pages before and removed later.  Its listcruft unfortuntly and cannot be accepted therefore.  I'm actually trying to find ways of getting rid of that kind of thing.  Angel Emfrbl 16:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle Guide 

message: Shouldn't the character bios be linked off a Table of Contents heading on the main page?  I'd expect any entry about a comic or TV series to have TOC links to characters and episode guides.  Mongoose22 04:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are, look at the orange thing at the bottom of the page. (Justyn 19:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character bios? 

message: The Will of D as of this entry the references are not showing up on this page?  Anyone know whats up with that? Angel Emfrbl 17:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind I found the prob... Someone broke the coding up by adding a space in it. Angel Emfrbl 19:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki bug

message: Since when Wikipedia has to follow other people's rules regarding spoilers? I know it's frustrating for some people, but they need to learn to read where there is a tag stating Spoiler in the articles. Stop blaming other people other than yourself if you get spoiled. If you don't want to be spoiled, then go out with your gf, family, relatives and come back when the spoiler becomes not-spoiler. It's frustrating when you are at other place (Wikipedia), then other people starts coming in and shouting "This is against the rules!", and already defined by Wikipedia, there are a set of rules that are different from the other places. For god sakes, there are a tons of similiar spoilers that came out, and it did not came from Arlong Park only. There are other forums, blog, website out there with said similiar spoilers. Kljs 06:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Since When Wikipedia follows other rules other than it's own defined set of rules?

message: Why do I see two other replies when the discussion is over?  :
*I've had Arlong Park on the brain yesturday it seems.
*I live in the UK... It was past 11 O'clock, I wasn't thinking right.  It was late.  I've woken up this morning and remember when a dumb thing I did last night.  (Hell, I don't drink or take drugs otherwise I'd blame it on that).  
*I've been outnumbered and proven wrong on this and to be honest... I don't even though what I was getting at anymore.
*I used Arlong Park when I was meant to be generalising it seems anyway.
*I guess I was shocked how fast it went up, normally we wait until Wednesday, which is the day we all get confirmation we aren't being duped.  We did it last week, why didn't we do it this week?  Probably due to excitement.
So give it a rest everyone and get back to normal. No more discussing it.  i think for everyone's benefit (well mine because I can't figure out why I made a fuss) if we leave it as it is.   Angel Emfrbl 06:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion is over

message: I'm just wondering, but it'd be really awesome and convieniet if someone could put all the SBS questions into one page.  Just list each questions by chapter and then anwsers under them.  Only questions that have been mentioned in Wiki is fine by me, feel free to add more if you want.  I just think it'd be a good idea to put all the questions into one page instead of individually looking for them.
:Well its more or less fancruft.  I think if its up on the One Piece wikia its okay... But here.  We have enough pages that are close to 'fancruft'. Angel Emfrbl 06:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SBS questions

message: A few things to bring up. In light of the more recent chapters, especially with the big revelation in chapter 432 (you can look up spoilers on any big forum), do you think it's safe to say that the Enies Lobby arc, as well as the current main saga, ended with chapter 430? Also, I think the World Government Saga should be renamed to something more fitting like the CP9 arc. It's very obvious that the World Government is going to have more roles later on in the story. If we are going to call these more recent chapters a new arc, the best thing to do is to just refer to it as the Current arc and the Current saga (similarly to what Naruto is doing now) until a definitive plot is revealed. The Splendiferous Gegiford 20:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded for the current arc/saga thing, but generaly the Grandline arcs are named after the islands, with the East Blue arcs being named after the antagonist (with the exeption of the Loguetown and Baratie arcs, with followed the Grandline arc naming pattern) so the ending/ending arc would be the Enies Lobby arc. (Justyn 06:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I meant to say changing the name of the saga to "CP9 Saga", not "CP9 arc". Like I said, it's obvious the World Government is going to have more to do with the story in the future. The Splendiferous Gegiford 22:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: K then, I went ahead and did it. I started a new section here so it can be expanded upon later. The Splendiferous Gegiford 23:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current arc developments and reformats here

message: Who does this article continue to refer to the "Navy" when they're called marines in the original?  (as can be seen in the English word on their uniforms) Ken Arromdee
: Kaigun = Navy in Japanese - They are called the "Kaigun", NOT "Marines" in the Japanese version. See Navy (One Piece) WhisperToMe 21:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot to mention, Marines is some countries way of saying 'Navy'.  Which is why Oda is using it.  Its just not our way of saying 'Navy'.  Angel Emfrbl 09:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Navy" 

message: Every time I visit the One Piece pages on wikipedia the screenshots of the main characters on their pages have been changed again. Is there a reason we can't just find a good screenshot of each of them, and leave them that way? I don't know, it just seems sometimes some of them just aren't very good pictures, or they'll have have pictures that sort of "match" (i.e. came from the same theme song or something like that) but then someone will change half of them for no reason at all. - STAREYe 17:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character images