Talk:Tupolev PAK DA

message: Can someone please find out the specifications for this plane. I would really like to know the top speed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Badger Brock (talk • contribs) 02:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Specifications

message: This article seems devoid of sources. A google search on PAK-DA didn't come up with much.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Senor Freebie (talk • contribs) 09:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Classified records are usually like that, you can't find them on the internet. Right now we can only use news reports or quotes from people involved in the project.Still, it's a stub. The reason there is little mention is because you are looking for a Russian designed plane on the English version of Wikipedia. The Russian version carries more info. I have found multiple news sites mentioning it so I will list them:
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/12/12/strategic/
http://vpk.name/news/9651_na_sozdanie_novogo_strategicheskogo_samoleta_dlya_rossiiskoi_armii_potrebuetsya_67_let__genkonstruktor_kompanii_tupolev.html
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/12/12/strategic/ ↑ http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/12/12/strategic/
http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2005-01-21/6_plane.html ↑ http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2005-01-21/6_plane.html
http://vpk.name/news/7748_v_rossii_nachinayutsya_rabotyi_po_sozdaniyu_novogo_strategicheskogo_raketonosca_dlya_dalnei_aviacii.html
http://vpk.name/news/7748_v_rossii_nachinayutsya_rabotyi_po_sozdaniyu_novogo_strategicheskogo_raketonosca_dlya_dalnei_aviacii.html
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/08/19/bomber/ ↑ http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/08/19/bomber/
http://www.royfc.com/acft_news.html
http://www.deagel.com/Long-Range-Attack-Aircraft/PAK-DA_a002424001.aspx
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20090819/155857912.html
http://www.paralay.com/pakda.html
There is even a Free Republic article on it (/focus/f-news/2325018/posts)
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/02-05-2007/90775-russian_bomber-0
Pick the source that pleases you most Zalgo 05:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

text: That picture is old, incorrect, & fan-made. It needs to be removed for those reasons. 71.50.103.166 (talk) 03:30, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: This article by  Mikhail Barabanov gives a good overview of where the programme is as of September 2012 - and speculates whether it might be cut given the likely budget environment over the next few years. Le Deluge (talk) 16:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Overview

message: according to the Voice of Russia  this will be a flying wing, possibly deriving from the Tu-202, but the picture in the box is a swingwing, like the Backfire and not like the B-2.  -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at these sketches: internal structure, sketch, it is a swing wing that is also a flying wing. At this point and likely for another decade this is all speculation. I would say don't jump to things and leave it at that. Mightyname (talk) 12:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  design 

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message: the translation of the aircraft name is incorrect,  not a courier, the word "ПОСЛАННИК"="MESSENGER" is used, it is something more, more than just a "courier", it is a reference to the texts of the Bible and even the Koran  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1370:812A:85F:B9C4:513C:77D6:6713 (talk) 11:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any sources supporting your claim? -- Nicholas Velasquez (talk) 13:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

text: Religious sources are misplaced there, as well as any kind of original research. If there are any sources explicitly stating the meaning of "Poslannik" in the PAK DA context is stricly "message deliverer", feel free to present them. So far "courier" is sufficient, since "message deliverer" is already encompassed in it: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/courier -- Nicholas Velasquez (talk) 16:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft name is incorrect