Talk:Calypso (mythology)

message: The "Calypso" in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is NOT the Calypso of Greek mythology, therefore I reverted.  As far as I know, the only similaritblablabla
real Vega|Ethereal Vega]] (talk) 01:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, you're right, they're not the same person, but the Calypso in Pirates of the Carribean IS based on the one from Greek Mythology, so the movie and its character do warrant a mention in this article. Otherwise we need to make a "Calypso in popular culture" article. Like I am implying, the Calypso in Pirates of the Carribean is only loosely based on the Calypso of the mythology, but she is based/inspired by her, or a reference. And she is also the daughter of Atlas in the movie. --2.104.12.76 (talk) 20:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, the above comment was made by me, but I forgot to login. --Luka1184 (talk) 20:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Hesiod mentions that Odysseus and Calypso had two children together at the end of the Theogony.  Do any other sources support this? It says that Odysseus sneaked up on her and rape her, with a hand in her vangina and kissing her breasts. Slingstone (talk) 06:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Children with Odysseus?

message: Calypso(Kalypsō) < from the Greek verb kalyptein = to hide http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Calypso&searchmode=none sea nymph in the "Odyssey," lit. "hidden, hider" (perhaps originally a death goddess) from Gk. kalyptein "to cover, conceal," from PIE *kel- "to cover, conceal, save," root of English Hell (see cell).   / Malta < the Phoenician word Maleth, the Phoenician name for the islands, meaning "a haven" in reference to Malta's many bays and coves. Böri (talk) 09:02, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But 'hidden' doesn't mean a place of shelter, etc. Dougweller (talk) 12:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Calypso = Malta! 

message: The following was added here, by , under the section title "Hearsay":
:Ancient mariners that hunted whales would call the high pitched sound produced by whales, when struck by harpoons "Calypso's Scream".
:Superstitious rituals would be performed by sailors of all whaling nations out of respect and probably fear.  Whilst not relevant today it is interesting that those traditions were followed into the 20th century. and even the sounds of a sinking ship were given the same title.
All very interesting, but since no source is given (the edit summar was: "Hearsay. I am going by what my grandfather said from his WW2 service in the merchant marine. He used to tell the story as a ghost story to scare us before he died in 1984, it was just another old story he said his grandfather would tell him"), I removed the section.
However, this might warrant a mention in the article, provided a reliable source could be found.
Paul August ☎ 10:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed section: "Hearsay" 

message: Where on earth does anyone get the notion that Odysseus longs to leave Calypso because he misses his wife, Penelope? Only a person who is watching cartoons or television rather than reading the epic could come to such a conclusion.
The manipulation of narrative time by Home is extremely sophisticated. By the time we meet Odysseus in Odyssey, in Book V, he is, if his flashback narrative with the Phaeaecians is true, already post-Cicones, Lotus eaters, Polyphemus, Antiphates, Aeolus, and Circe. Circe has sent him to Hades, where he has met the shade of Agamemnon, whose first words are to beware Penelope and to test her for faithlessness. He has returned to Circe, gone on through the Sirens, Scylla and Charybdis, messed with Helios's cattle, and ended up with every single crewman dead. THIS is where he is when he gets to Calypso, and we're to believe that he is filled with a uxorious spirit that he has never shown any evidence of?
When, indeed, he is with Circe, he is in her bed (against her will) for a year, and he has "forgotten his home." His men have to remind him of "home." Upon arriving on Calypso's island, he enjoys her company for years.
When Athena speaks to Zeus in Book I, she says that Odysseus must be set free to get to his hall to show the value of descent from the gods. It's ALL about being a king, and a king is in his kingdom. It is worth more than immortality and eternal youth. In fact, the integrity of kingship means more than the queen (hence, when he arrives in Ithaca, Athena, in disguise, twice advises Odysseus to test the women, and Penelope). [Her motivation is not due to doubts about Penelope but her own desire to see the "Slaughter in the Halls" accomplished. She needs Odysseus to put off the reunion and return until there is a reclamation of his crown through massive and improbable bloodshed that will give HER more glory as his patroness.]
Yes, Homer says that Odysseus has sex with her unwillingly, but it is not exactly a sexual captivity as much as a pleasurelessness due to his wanting to be in his homeland. Hithladaeus (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If Homer says that Odysseus has sex with her unwillingly, then yes it is sexual captivity; I see no difference. If he cannot leave the island and he cannot deny her, it is rape. Deiadameian (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tendentious readings 

message: Does she have a Roman form/name?
 174.238.165.177 (talk) 22:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman