Talk:Troy Aikman

message: Defintely biased: i.e. "Switzer knew Aikman had a great future, but it wasn't at Oklahoma. He called his friend Terry Donahue, and got him into pass-happy UCLA.". Shouldn't this simply say "Aikman then transferred to UCLA, a team better known for passing plays"
In 1994, Dallas again won the Super Bowl, again blowing the Bills off the field. If they won again in 1995, they would become the first team in history to win three straight. But, Jones and Johnson couldn't keep their massive egos in check, each man taking credit for the team's success.
"Blowing the Bills off the field"?  "Massive egos"?  This looks like something a 12-year old wrote.
I think even a neutral observer would agree that the Cowboys did blow the Bills off the field in both Super Bowls they played.
The article is rather brash in tone, reads rather like an American Football commentry. But as a brit with at least a passing interest in the game, and no particular team loyalty to be offended I'm probably as neutral an observer as you find. I don't see the NPOV issue. The piece shows Aikman in a favorable light, but then his achevements rather speak for themselves.. Probably the piece would be more useful on an international basis if it didn't assume quite as much background knowledge in US College football, the baseball draft, and football lingo generally, but I really don't see the NPOV issue. Shoka
* Buffalo was leading at halftime in the second game.
* Johnson and his massive ego was no longer coaching the team in 1994, it was Barry Switzer
* As anyone who knows football can verify, it was turnovers that ruined Dallas' chances in the NFC Championship game.  The 49ers got 21 points off of 3 turnovers in the first quarter.  While the defense held MVP Steve Young in check, the deficit was too much for the 'Boys to overcome.  Don't blame egos for Aikman's picks, Irvin's fumble, and whatever the name of that other guy who fumbled was.
--MJR 21:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: His name was Kevin Anderson and I do blame a massive ego, that of owner Jerry Jones, because that's what led to Jimmy Johnson leaving as the Dallas coach. The consensus opinion is the 1994 team was not as well coached and consequently not as good under rookie pro coach Barry Switzer. The '94 season would be a training year for Switzer which was understandable since he had been out of coaching for years, never coached in the NFL and was known for winning with the run-dominated wishbone offense. Jerry Jones first brought up Switzer as a potential coach while intoxicated and the football world was pretty much in disbelief when he was hired to be the head coach. Yes, the three turnovers in the NFC Championship game's first quarter caused Dallas to be behind 21-0.  However, poor coaching leads to turnovers created by errors like a receiver not running his pass route properly which was what happened that enabled Eric Davis to intercept Aikman's pass and return it for a touchdown. Discipline on the team was lax during Switzer's first year and the player that caused the next turnover, Michael Irvin, had been using cocaine heavily during the 1994 season. The Cowboys played sloppily in a number of games that year and under the circumstances, it was an accomplishment that the team made it to the Conference championship.--TL36 (talk) 06:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Possibly the racing cars, but definitely the pro trade, which seems like link spam.  Will remove the latter. --Claygate 03:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Mack was the OC during aikman's tenure there.  Aikman says so himself. Corpx 03:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mack Brown was the OC in 1984, which was during Aikman's 'tenure'.  Danny Bradley was the starting QB that year, though.  Jim Donnan was the OC in 1985, when Aikman went 3-1 as the OU starter before being injured in the Miami game.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 16:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mack Brown 

message: Just curious.. why no picture?
Jaymzyates 23:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There have been a couple of different ones on the article but have been removed for reasons of copyright.  A public domain image is needed. I thought the previous one was OK because it was a promotional image but others disagreed. --Claygate 01:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Picture? 

message: I'm a lifelong Cowboys and Aikman fan, but crap like this needs to be removed: "...fans were taking notice of the blond-haired, blue-eyed leader...". It's like a damn magazine article. I'd edit it, but I don't want to screw up or do the article injustice. James 00:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, has been removed and another irrelevant sentence about advertising was also edited. The paragraphs about the first couple of seasons are long and could stand further clean up. --Claygate 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Come on.... 

message: Fixed Aikman's marriage information and children with citation.  Negative/erroneous information removed.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 16:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see the desire is there to throw Skip Bayless' claims about both Barry Switzer and Troy Aikman from his Hell-Bent book into a "non-biased" article about Aikman, but none of the claims were ever substantiated, even if they are carried in depth on several gay/lesbian websites.  Whether Switzer insinuated that Aikman was gay or not, neither Aikman nor Switzer admitted it.  The claims were never substantiated by a third party.  In essence, Bayless made unsubstantiated claims that should not be represented as substantiated truths in a verifiable, non-biased article.  There is no need for anything beyond what is in the article right now.→Deser† sapper•≈talk 21:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal 

message: Under the "Career Information" section, why is his association with Oklahoma under "College" always deleted; as well as his national championship with the team in 1985 (in which he started for and won games) in the "Career Highlights and Awards"? There is NO debate over this, it is a fact. So stop deleting it please.
YOU DELETED IT AGAIN! So, I will keep editing it until you provide a reason. Who are you anyway? Some obsessed UCLA fan who can't accept that he played for another school, and actually won a national championship with them?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.133.148 (talk) 08:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oklahoma Sooners Accomplishments & Awards 

message: The page said that Aikman was a "former Hall of Fame quarterback."  Unless his HOF induction has been revoked and I didn't hear aboutit, that's really bad grammar.  I just removed "former" because the fact that he is a HOF'er implies that his playing career is behind him. 71.70.219.101 (talk) 15:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Former hall of famer" 

message: Troy Aikman was ranked #80 on the NFL Channel's The Top 100 Greatest Players . (2010) Presenter: Drew Brees. Cjstanonis (talk) 19:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aikman listed on NFL Top 100 

message: Troy Aikman is a good man, loved him when he was on Dallas cowboys 192.76.1.122 (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troy Aikman 

message: According to two sources, Encyclopedia Britannica https://www.britannica.com/biography/Troy-Aikman and the Pro Football Hall of Fame https://www.profootballhof.com/players/troy-aikman/ (click on "Career Capsule" to view), Aikman's middle name is Kenneth, not Orson. Xan747 (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle name edit warring