Talk:Game sweatshop/Archive 1

message: Needs references or citations. RJFJR 20:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

message: I edited as best as I could, however the article isn't very Encyclopedic and really needs to be rewritten from a more neutral and Journalistic veiwpoint.
Martinj63 01:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made some revisions, but more is needed 

message: I've gone seeking other references sources to enable discussion of this article.
The discussion on Farmer (gaming) seems to be more about the view from the inside (by the gamers themselves) rather than how the external media and society perceive this issue. That article may still be productive, and though it parallels some of this material is tangental in many respects since it is rather an internal (gamers) perspective, so in that regard worth pursuing in it's own right.
The virtual economy, and whether that economy can remain separate if real world trading of virtual money and items is permitted, is questionable. If it's no longer a game then it does open the doors to real world issues such as financial (business), fiscal (taxation), legal (Intellectual Property) as well as law enforcement concerns. So presuming that it can at once remain 'separate' and innocuous trade, while allowing exchange of real for virtual is anomalous and possibly naive contradiction.
There are attempts to set up legal and safe trade between Virtual and Real World Economies such as Sparter Gamer2Gamer (Follow-up: What is Sparter? Who does it work for? - Gaming Today: Interview), which are an attempt to bypass fraud and illegal trade in items and the stigma of sweatshop operations. However, these are new companies have arisen due to very real and damaging effects on companies and players, due to the lack of any legal protections reportedly have resulted in all manner of problems from unregulated real money or real world trading.
Until it is regulated, claims there are no 'game sweatshops' or associated economic, criminal and legal problems, are at least equally biased without research, and possibly being disputed with the ulterior motive of quashing debate or discussion over this matter. Given the real import of these issues, it appears to be an emerging concern for governments, law enforcement agencies, and other regulators too, that there is an unconstrained flow of real currencies which could easily hide questionable and possibly illegal activities.
==== Conclusion - Do not Merge - Expand or Recatgorise ====
Therefore as this article has only began to be written, it should at least be given a chance to continue as a dialogue. There are possibly many of the external (to the online gaming community) financial, corporate, legal and real world social effects in this regard. 
I will continue to seek and categories references until we have further writers here who may be interested in taking the 'external' or real world view of this problem. It may be that 'game sweatshop' is too narrow a category for this discussion, and it may find broader and more serious fields of discussion, as indicated by the references added so far. I hope other Wikipedians will assist in this endeavour.
Witchita au 01:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Have compiled a list of other references & added discussion - Need Writers 

message: Therefore as this article has only began to be written, it should at least be given a chance to continue as a dialogue. There are possibly many of the external (to the online gaming community) financial, corporate, legal and real world social effects in this regard. 
I will continue to seek and categories references until we have further writers here who may be interested in taking the 'external' or real world view of this problem. It may be that 'game sweatshop' is too narrow a category for this discussion, and it may find broader and more serious fields of discussion, as indicated by the references added so far. I hope other Wikipedians will assist in this endeavour.
Witchita au 01:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conclusion - Do not Merge - Expand or Recatgorise 

message: I think it's now time to convert some of the external links into inline citations to support individual statements of fact in the article. At the moment it will be difficult for a reader to verify anything without reading all the linked pages. Kevin 06:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links