Talk:The Thin Red Line (1998 film)

message: In the first paragraph about the narrative of the film it states that Guadalcanal was the first allied victory. The first allied victory against the Japanese was the repulse of the Japanese landing at Milne Bay in Papua New Guinea.
Are we really comfortable that there is no "central protagonist" ? Witt/Caviezal(sp)is clearly the central protagonist and also a christ-figure.--Win7ermute 03:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual error

message: The screenshot labeled "Battle on Hill 210" actually takes place after C-Company had secured the hill, advanced past it and launched an attack on a Japanese bivouac (which in the novel they discovered purely by accident, but in the film it appears as a planned attack). Perhaps the image should be relabeled in the article. D Boland 23:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Battle on Hill 210" 

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#Per WP:MOSLINK, each rank in the "Cast" section should only be linked once.
#The cast section needs to comply with WP:MOSFILM, In particular, using the style that you have chosen, characters that were not introduced in the "Plot" section need to have a description after their names (Fife and Keck)
#:What happened to this section? No need to re-add it (at the moment), but I'm wondering why you removed it. Cheers, CP 23:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for these comments. I think I have addressed all of them in my recent revisions. --J.D. (talk) 21:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have updated the review above. Cheers, CP 23:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have updated the review once more. Once the lead has been dealt with, it should be good to go. Cheers, CP 04:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have improved on the lead paragraph. Let me know if it is okay. Thanks! --J.D. (talk) 14:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: I believe that in another language this is a featured article, but I don't think it should be used to help because it seems overly long, and mislead. For example there is a picture of the British painting "The Thin Red Line", but that refers to a completely different war. Another example is a picture taken during the battle of Guadalcanal, but not from the movie. Overall, I dont think it's a help. Yojimbo501 (talk) 23:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dont use the featured article for help 

message: In the opening synopsis, I added a paragraph break where the production aspects listed actors interested in working on the film, and those that did and were cut.  The structure of these two sentances is unfortunatly gabled into one long list without quite careful notice of the lone period in a mist of commas.  Please feel free to restructure the sentances and remove the paragraph break as well if anyone cares to revert.
-grey  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.167.102 (talk) 23:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraph break added 

message: In the beginning of the movie, particularly in the scene where Pvt. Witt's AWOL-buddy found their patrol boat closing in, there was a modern surfboard sitting by the beach. Foam/Fiberglass boards have not yet revolutionized the concept of modern surfing up until their introduction in the mid-1950's. Anyway, it made that part of the movie look like you're watching The Endless Summer.  ≈Commitcharge 
:Is that what it is, or might it possibly be a shallow canoe such as Witt was paddling earlier? 124.157.247.221 (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A polyurethane surfboard in WWII?? 

message: I think the cast listing in the infobox should be reserved for the most notable roles in the film.  In other words, Travolta should go, since his part is merely a cameo.  Any thoughts? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 03:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast in infobox 

message: So there's something this article mentions quite a bit but remains unclear to me. It seems like getting this film made was basically a nightmare and that the director bungled huge aspects of it (e.g., casting actors he never, in the end, needed). Yet people seemed absolutely desperate to work with him. Besides Adrian Brody, the article makes no mention of any of the actors who were partially or completely cut from the film being dissatisfied. Was he the only one? Because from the behavior of the director, I'm baffled he didn't piss more people off. And, given all this, why were so many people so eager to work with him? The article may way to include these things. RobertM525 (talk) 08:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direction 

message: I just reverted an anonymous editor's changes to several character names in the cast listing.  Comparing the cast list to that found on IMDB, though, I noticed there are some discrepancies, mostly character's whose first names are not given on IMDB.  Since the latter's listing is said to match the final credits, what is the source for our list here?  Furthermore, why is our list not also in the same order as the final credits?  Is this not usually the case?  I would like to hear some other editor's opinions on this, but if I do not receive a response in the next week or so, I am going to change the order of our list to match IMDB's. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to cast list 

message: Towards the end of the movie there is a close up shot of a Tawny Frogmouth sitting in a tree. The Tawny Frogmouth is a bird native to Australia and would not be found in the Pacific region as portrayed in this movie.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerwrite555 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Close Up of a Tawny Frogmouth 

message: Although the title may seem to refer to a line from Rudyard Kipling's poem "Tommy", from Barrack-Room Ballads, in which he calls foot soldiers "the thin red line of heroes",[2] referring to the stand of the 93rd Regiment in the Battle of Balaclava of the Crimean War, it is in reality a quote from James Jones' book which reads "they discover the thin red line that divides the sane from the mad... and the living from the dead..."
That's a horrible section. It sounds as if the article uses Jones' book as a source for the title of Jones' book. WTF?
If Jones invented the phrase himself, it does not need mention in the article, much less in the lede. ("Look, an author of books invented a phrase!!!")
If the phrase comes from Kipling, there is no point in listing any intermediate works, and certainly no point in showing that the phrase was used in the book in more than one place.
It's stupid. Get rid of it.-217.248.32.145 (talk) 10:01, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  From the Lede 

message: Not sure how to cite YouTube or television interviews, in any case, but this conversation with Christopher Plummer gives more details concerning the massive amount of editing that went on and the resentment it caused among Mallick's actors. Brody's mistreatment belongs in the lede along with the fully cut performances, not buried. — LlywelynII 03:22, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing and lost performances

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message: The film asks questions but does not provide answers. 
The war against Japan started because FD Roosevelt wanted to wage war against Germany.
Germany, Italy and Japan made a pact to protect each other. Roosevelt wished to pretend that America was neutral. He decided to provoke Japan into attacking Americans so that he could declare war against Japan, which would lead to automatic commencement of war against Germany and Italy. Pearl Harbour and Guadalcanal etc was the result.
Neither Germany, Italy or Japan wanted war against the USA. Hitler's declaration of war against the USA lists numerous contraventions of International law and acts of war against Germany - but we're not meant to know that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.104.53 (talk) 21:39, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of unsourced opinionated assertions here. As presented, it appears to be mere ideological fantasy.  Are we supposed to take the word of someone who does not even bother to provide so much as an account name, let alone massive unsourced reinterpretations of major events in 20th century world history? Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 06:44, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answers 

message: I edited this article to add the actors names in the plot section. This is a technique I have seen on other film pages and found helpful when mentally connecting the character name to the actor. My edit has been reversed. The comment was the plot section should only focus on plot points rather than bringing up the actors. I question that assumption. Is there a set style guide I need to follow that I've missed? Creedweber (talk) 00:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The current WP:FILMPLOT guidelines recommend against including them:  -- 109.78.198.236 (talk) 04:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query about style 

message: Mel Gibson and Liam Neeson are both in the cast list, but not at all on IMDB or in my brief google searches.
Having just watched it I'm certain neither of them appear, even in a brief cameo. 2A02:C7E:3008:600:C9D1:6B00:5E2E:AE09 (talk) 07:15, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast list 

message: The article contains this line
Filming also took place on Dancer Mountain, which had such rough terrain that trailers and production trucks could not make it up the hill.
I cannot find a Dancer mountain in neither Australia nor Solomon Islands. There is no citation given, and the citation given for the other filming locations does not mention any mountain. Google searches ultimately lead back to this article, as if this is the origin. Is this all a Mallickian joke? 193.119.80.59 (talk) 03:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Dancer Mountain?