Talk:Final Solution (disambiguation)

message: Okay, I'll discuss it here: it's only a minor thing, but the grammaticaly correct german adjective for "final (feminine)" is not entgultig but endgültig. It's only a detail, but hey, it's an Encyclopedia;) I tried to fix it, did so in two edits, but it was reverted as some sort of vandalism or "unconstructive edits"; well I see that editing a detail twice in some 2 minutes by a dynamic IP could look suspicious, but...could anyone be so kind and fix it for me (and others as well;)).
P.S.: Ow and if you want a reference, take a look here: . Cheers.--84.163.117.158 (talk) 23:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: Isaiah Berlin used the deliberately emotive term 'Final Solution' in his essay Two Concepts of Liberty to mean the reconciliation of all disparate and possibly conflicting human goals, a condition he believes impossible, and the desire for which he considers dangerous.--Mongreilf (talk) 16:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isaiah Berlin 

message: One might note that this term is a fairly common pre-war term for the removal of minority populations. The correct term of this section of the Wiki ought be 'final solution to the jewish problem'.
Search eg google 'final solution to the german question', and also eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution_of_the_Czech_Question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_from_Czechoslovakia
The Rise of the Great Powers 1648 - 1815 https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=1317872843 Derek Mckay, ‎H.M. Scott - 2014 - ‎History ther partition as a final solution to the Polish question, for the situation created by the second partition was intrinsically unstable. Catherine's troops remained in ...
I don't deny the Holocaust did not occur, but 'final solution' is not identically equal to it.
One suspects that the concentration on the Holocaust is intended to hide the crimes of the allies, committed after the war (expulsion of some ten million people from their homes).
Googling for 'final solution for the * question'  with * as variously 'irish', 'muslim', 'japanese', 'polish' and 'czech', leads us to the conclusion that the term is more widespread than what is advanced here, and that it does not always involve concentration camps and massive killings.
The 'final solution to the indian issue' refers to the american genecide of their natives, dates back to 1864.  Jefferson talks of a 'final solution to the negro problem', most likely much earlier.  The term, like the classification of Jews, were borrowed from the USA.  The Germans simply copied the Virginia race laws on these matters.
One might note that Martin Luther King rightly hits the nail on the head, when he states that the executions of the Jews, Romani etc, were sanctioned by law, and can not be construed as 'murder' (letter from birmingham jail).  His point was that the evident injustices of the government of the day must be addressed by some form of revolt, in a way to hasten change.
In short, refering to the final solution as the holocaust, is a propaganda hijacking of the term, partly to cover the allied 'final solutions' that are happening to this day (eg occatains language and others culture being actively banned by the french). 
Wendy.krieger (talk) 12:18, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term 'Final Solution' has been hijacked.