Talk:Earthship

message: A article is needed about self-sufficient homes, a link to earthships can be imbedded in this article. Other self-sufficient homes can be viewed at this website
Please create the article.
Thanks.
KVDP (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-sufficient home article needed 

message: An anon editor copied this article to Appropedia:Earthships. My question is: is this content really suitable for Wikipedia (in which case we'll remove most of it, and link the Wikipedia article) or is it likely to get pruned back a lot (in which case the content can be conserved at Appropedia)? --Chriswaterguy talk 00:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appropedia article on Earthships 

message: Anyone knows why composting toilets have gone out of grace with biotecture? I think its because of smell (slight), aldough with current models, ... this should I believe be quite minor and mostly code requirements (regulation on plumbing, ...) see biotecture article on sewage/water
Also, if someone knows how that "incubator" works add that aswell in article
Thanks, KVDP
81.246.141.86 (talk) 08:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Toilet/water system

message: Following image was removed, please leave on page or upgrade page trough the use of graphics program:
thumb|right|200px|The design used with most earthships. A large series of windows characterise the earthsheltered building 
Spend lots of time on it, so ...
81.245.170.21 (talk) 14:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: The article needs a source for the number of scrapped tires/year:
http://www.tfhrc.gov/hnr20/recycle/waste/st1.htm cites:
Scrap Tire Management Council. Scrap Tire Use/Disposal Study 199 Update, Washington, DC, February, 1995.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.145.38.18 (talk) 13:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for Scrap Tires number 

message: If someone wants to have a look, try http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvins_dad/2613605572/ and nearby. Lots of CC -licensed earthship photos available. Cheers  --Pete Tillman (talk) 19:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of photos at Flickr 

message: Tyres are actually not cradle-to-cradle compliant; see Talk:Tire#Picture_of_destroyed_tire mention in article as this implies that the use of tyres to make a organic building is impossible
91.182.2.34 (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tyres not cradle-to-cradle compliant

message: I know very well who 'Reynolds' is, but the whole entry reads poorly. There is the introduction and then it jumps to the 'History' section which begins "Eventually, Reynolds' vision took the form of the common ... ," with no mention of who 'Reynolds' is up to that point! The whole entry needs someone to embrace it so it reads better. I'm not experienced enough in the seemingly never-ending fancy changes to Wiki form and format to take on that responsibility. Still, I suggest before many of these other semantic details get attention, there should be a reconditioning of what's up so far.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Satori (talk • contribs) 12:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is Reynolds?

message: Is Cody Lundin's home not an earthship ? It isn't said in the article by so much words, but I think so nevertheless. See http://www.codylundin.com/codys_house.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.11.24 (talk) 09:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cody Lundin's home

message: Hi, I made a vectorised version of a hand-drawn graphic. I hope it`s good enough. If not, tell me and I try to improve it. --Pilettes (talk) 14:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New graphic 

message: The article doesn't really explain the difference between thermal mass and insulation, the job that each performs, and how much of each is appropriate in what circumstance. There is one quick mention to the effect that "an earth-coupled house still needs insulation", but it seems to me that the two things mostly work against each other -- if the insulation is highly efficient, the thermal mass is irrelevant, and if the thermal mass is there to stabilize the temperature, insulation would prevent that from happening. It seems likely to me that the two can be made to balance each other, and work together, but that isn't explained in the article. Middlenamefrank (talk) 20:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thermal mass vs. Insulation 

message: Is entirly focused on UK. I only see UK earthships mentioned or earthships build on mainland by UK owners. For the record the very first earthship in Europe was build in Belgium in 2000 by team Reynolds way before earthship Fife.
In Spain the first residential earthship already started building in 2003, Earthship Valencia. In 2005 building of earthship Vaxhüset (Sweden) started. All well before earthship Ger, although Ger was finished before Valencia.
Overview of European earthships can be found []. You will find dates of when building started.
I added the Belgium part on Strombeek but it was removed? Can someone tell me why? You do not want Wikipedia to tell history the correct way?
Willy Raets,Chairman Earthship Belgium npo,Initiator behind earthshipeurope.org, EEBU, EECO and EECN (all earthship related)
Author on several technical and research articles on earthships techniques and improvements to European climate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.117.15.86 (talk) 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe overview 

message: There is no listing of disadvantages of earthship construction to balance the list of advantages, which makes the whole article appear biased.OnHawkspur (talk) 00:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advantages/disadvantages 

message: This article uses a lot of complimentary phrasing and a biased tone, it makes assertions without corroboration, and it comes across as the kind of promotional writing you'd find on the subject's website. Just deleting the problematic phrases results in huge gaps in the flow of the article, so it seems this needs a more extensive rewrite than I can provide (I am unfamiliar with the subject matter). Inserting problem tags every few sentences and problem banners every section makes the article unreadable. Below are a few examples of the problems in this article.
===No citations===
*"The roof of an Earthship is heavily insulated – often with two layers of four inch poly-iso insulation …"
*"The Earthship as it exists today, began to take shape in the 1970s."
*"Mike Reynolds … wanted to create a home that would do three things …"
*"… dry solar toilets are now advocated …"
===Opinionated===
*"Unlike many other materials, rammed-earth tires are easily accessible to the average person."
*"In addition to being readily available, the method … is simple and affordable."
*"… [improves] the viability of Earthships in every climate without compromising their durability."
*"Their popularity and use of inexpensive materials has inspired many to build their own homes as well."
===Unclear===
*"Because of the nature of plants, oxygen is added to the water …"
*"… plants are placed at outlets of fixtures to regain the water and the nutrients lost …"
*"CLEVEL invited Reynolds from Belgium to Brighton in the UK …" — (no explanation as to who or what CLEVEL is supposed to be)
===Primary sources===
The entire Systems section (water, electricity, climate, heating) is full of descriptions and processes but very little references. This section seems to be a rehashing of the content found in the Systems section of Earthship's website. Two citations in this section are directly related to Mike Reynolds himself (his book and Helio House) and three are broken links. Another two references are unclear (one seems to be an incomplete citation markup with only the title of a book, whereas the other seems to be a photo gallery buried below a bunch of Amazon.com links).
===Pro and con lists===
Both the Potential advantages and Potential disadvantages sections have no citations attached to their marketing-speak assertions. The disadvantages list contains one throw-away line meant as  to provide counterpoint. Everything that could go wrong with pro and con lists is happening here, including peacock terms, editorializing, and weasel words (for example, "Rubber tires are usually free and it may be possible to be paid to take them.").
— 173.60.134.88 (talk) 22:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple issues - requires cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards 

message: Both the Potential advantages and Potential disadvantages sections have no citations attached to their marketing-speak assertions. The disadvantages list contains one throw-away line meant as  to provide counterpoint. Everything that could go wrong with pro and con lists is happening here, including peacock terms, editorializing, and weasel words (for example, "Rubber tires are usually free and it may be possible to be paid to take them.").
— 173.60.134.88 (talk) 22:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro and con lists

message: Perhaps useful to mention: Flagship movement
See 
* http://earthshipsweden.se/
* https://www.facebook.com/flagshipbio/info
109.130.177.184 (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Flagship movement

message: "There are other issues not mentioned here which tells me this is a very biased article. Earthships have significant problems with health and safety such as the out gassing of toxins from the tires, deadly fire hazard and serious instability issues where earth shifting, settling, undermining or earthquakes may occur."
How ever wrote this at the beginning of the article may let it be or provide a valid source or put it into the talk area.
I´ve deleted it form the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:470:1F15:1167:219:7EFF:FE66:8ACD (talk) 14:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: First sentence in article, source

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