Talk:List of United Kingdom county name etymologies

message: The isle of Wight: a place of division? I always thought wight arose from Wihtgar, the first king of the isle of wight? I may be wrong, so nothing has been altered, but can anyone disprove this? 62.64.129.213 01:41, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The source for that was the Oxford English Dictionary of Place Names.  It's a fairly stamdard reference, though not by any means infallable.  Can you provide a good reference or two for your theory? -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 21:25, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isle of Wight 

message: I was surprised by this as downs are chalk hills, open and largely treeless. Cf. Old English dun and Welsh dwn. Wetman 07:29, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: When doing etymology it is not as helpful looking at how the word is spelled now, more how the word was spelled when it was first written down.  The county name was first written down as An Dún, which the Oxford Names Companion (pub. 2002) assures me is Gaelic for The Fort.  The fort in this case being Downpatrick, which although 17th century meaning Patrick's Fort (Dún Pádraig) was formerly called Dún Lethglaise (Fort by the stream). -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 09:09, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Down = fort"

message: The current English names for the counties are all very well handled, but what about the etymology of the Welsh names for Welsh counties, Scots and Gaelic names for Scottish counties or Ullans and Gaelic names for the Six Counties? I can take a look for the Welsh ones, but wouldn't know where to start in Scotland or Ireland (I couldn't even name all six Counties and know next to nothing about Scotland). Anyone? :o) — OwenBlacker 19:06, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
:I think there's scope there to do that in a separate list, either as a separate table or in a separate article.  I think it will lead to confusion if the (for example) Welsh names for counties are intermingled with the English names for all the others. -- Graham  ☺ | Talk 21:55, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  County names in other languages? 

message: Does anyone object to me splitting up the list by which country the counties are in - England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland (if there are any listed here)? I think it would make the list slightly easier to read or to find counties of. (PS: I don't mean seperate articles, just seperate tables) -- Joolz 19:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Object - there's too much unnecesary splitting on "home nations" in other articles as it is. What would be useful is a split on traditional counties vs. administrative counties vs. defunct administrative counties. As it currently stands, they are all mixed together giving the impression that they all have equal status. Owain 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought that up above if you look and was told to put them all in together. -- Francs2000 | Talk  15:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Object per reasons above. -- Francs2000 | Talk  15:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: It seems that Mais oui! has done his usual trick of unilaterally splitting things up into England/Scotland/Wales without checking for prior disucussions. *sigh* Owain (talk) 11:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split the list

message: This page seems to contain factual errors, (e.g. Wiltshire is named after Wilton, which is named after the river Wylye). I'll try to correct what I can, but some of the names have disputed origins.--Dumbo1 18:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a few of the Scottish shires listed that are disputed, or incorrect, too.  I'll try to correct those. Lianachan 01:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See my reply below for where the references came from: I have added that to the new references section on the page itself. -- Francs2000  20:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Errors

message: I have revised the entries for Scottish shires.  I've tried to add rather than replace - even when some of the suggested toponyms are entirely alien to me, I've left them in place and added other possibilites which are (I believe) more generally accepted.  My two main sources for this were Watson's The Celitic Place-names Of Scoland and the 2003 survey of place names carried out for the Scottish Parliament.  I will gladly discuss any problems anybody has with any of my edits. Lianachan 18:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the original reference was an English one (the Oxford Dictionary of Place Names) replace as much as you need. -- Francs2000  20:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PS I've added a references section to the botom of the page: please add the full details of the references you've used. -- Francs2000  20:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish Entries 

message: What does that mean? —Tamfang (talk) 21:35, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "non-diagnostic Celtic" 

message: Or perhaps I should put it more bluntly: Ancienterritory is not a word. It isn't two words either, due to a 't' deficiency. This sequence of letters appears in this article. It also appears in precisely the same "list of counties of the UK" context in these apparently cloned odd ball nether regions of the Internet:
* http://www.tutorgigpedia.com/Toponymical_list_of_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom_es.html
* http://www.qesign.com/offer.php?x=Etymological_list_of_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom
* http://www.uniblogger.com/en/Toponymical_list_of_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom
My opinion that it isn't a word seems to be well supported by the complete absence of any other appearances on the Internet.
It has to go (perhaps like the ancient territories it tries to describe). I didn't just immediately edit or delete it, because it looks like this Talk page needs something on which we all agree. ChrisJBenson (talk) 10:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not an Appropriate Forum for Neologisms