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Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 13

message: Does there exist an example page (ie: a dummy sample) that possesses most/all of the aspects from the Manual of Stlye that I can refer to?  I think it would be easier to use than trawling the Manual of Style. --Commander Keane 12:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Most articles of any length - including almost all featured articles, are inconsistent with it in some respect. This is a fault with the MoS, rather than the articles, as the MoS has not adapted to deal with the expansion of WP and the variety of equally valid styles that different users use, jguk 19:22, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Commander Keane is asking if we could create a short article that actually fits the MoS and shows off the styles.  The problem is that some of the style points are restrictions, such as no curly quotes, or too specific, such as the italicization of genus and species. --Sean κ. ⇔ 19:28, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I thought he meant too. It's just that, with respect, I do not think it is a very good idea - some parts of the MoS are ignored more often than they are adhered to, and I don't think it would be useful to encourage people to change WP wholesale to comply with it. To see what well-written articles look like I would advise looking at Wikipedia:Featured articles and copying the styles there, jguk 18:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Annotated article might be helpful. Maurreen 02:12, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Also, just for clarification, No. 8 in the featured article criteria is: "Comply with the standards set by any relevant WikiProjects, as well as those in the style manual." Maurreen 02:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example 

message: :Deities begin with a capital letter
Proper names begin with a capital letter. Thus "There is no god but God, and God is the god both of Christianity and Islam, and his name is God.".
I have often erroneously used philosopher quotes instead of italics when using words as names for themselves. Maybe there should be a mention in "quote usage" referring back to "words as words".
Pmurray bigpond.com 00:09, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deities begin with a capital letter 

message: I did not find any rules on where to put punctuation, when brackets are used. Should it appear inside the brackets (like this,) or outside (like this), or should there be any different rules for commas, full stops and question marks (like this)? −Woodstone 20:30, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
:Punctuation goes where it belongs. (A sentence wholly inside brackets will have its full stop within those brackets.) This means that bracketed clauses at the end of sentences do not include a full stop (if you see what I mean). Kind regards, jguk 20:43, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punctuation and brackets
Talk:Emily Lloyd

message: I am new and this is my first article. I don't know what i should change on my article to contribute to Wikipedia Melly42 13:37, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the article looks fine! I see no issues with it; it's much better-written and more well-organised than many other articles by more experienced contributors. jglc | t | c 13:42, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hi . I refer to your edit here . I am well aware that as of 2017 the Daily Mail is generally considered unreliable and I have always previously avoided using this source. However, in this case the Daily Mail article is actually written by the actress in question. I note blogs are deemed notable on Wikipedia if the person who has written them has notability themselves. I see no reason why Emily Lloyd writing herself in the Daily Mail should be covered by a blanket ban on the site. She is unlikely to have sensationalised or fabricated slander about herself, or have poor-fact checking regarding her own life, reasons that were given for the Daily Mail being considered unreliable. The source is also not used for anything that is unduly self-serving or biased in her favour; she admits drug addiction in the article, among other things. Furthermore the article in question is from 2013, predating the point from which the source was generally considered unreliable. I've reverted the removal of content but I'm happy to discuss the matter further. Damien Linnane (talk) 01:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the references to that source are potentially reasonable per your points; however, when we begin making claims related to and impacting other people who aren't the author, that becomes more problematic. I don't agree that the details about the sexual abuse – a potentially criminal accusation – or about the "troubled relationship" are appropriately cited. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh that's a good point. I've found better sources for those two points, and have attributed the claim that the relationship was troubled to Lloyd's assertion, rather than a solid fact. :) Damien Linnane (talk) 02:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daily Mail 

message: What is even in the picture of Emily Lloyd? 47.157.200.6 (talk) 16:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ...what does that even mean? There's nothing in the picture as there is no picture. If you're trying to ask why there isn't a picture, it's because nobody has uploaded a free image, and we wouldn't be able to use a fair use one since the subject is still alive. See Wikipedia:Non-free content. Damien Linnane (talk) 02:50, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture
Talk:List of companies of Finland

message: There's Nokia, UPM-Kymmene and Nordea. Then there's Akado Oy (there's no "Oy" typed for other incorporated companies), which has a C/O address, has become VAT liable a year ago and is totally unknown in comparison to the rest of the companies in the article (come on, ask anyone). Is this firm really worth mentioning here?
:Looks like a web page shop, there are lots and lots of them. Out it goes. Weregerbil 14:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And is also listed in a very distorted alphabetical order. --Extra  999 (Contact me  +  contribs) 16:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

message: We should remove Stonesoft, because it's today only part of Forcepoint. http://stonesoft.com/en/ TheWiki122 (talk) 17:37, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stonesoft 
Talk:CIOO-FM

message: OK, so I'm new to editing wiki articles, but can we possibly do something about this article?  It is NOT NPOV.  c100 does not play the "hottest" songs except maybe in their own minds.  The musical format of the station is CHR or contemporary hit radio, which has a wikipedia entry that should be linked.  
Can somebody help me fix this article?
I feel that i should clarify something, in the context of, "the day’s hottest songs are counted down on The Top 9 at 9", i took the word "hottest" to mean most popular song, not necessarily the best song, that is why i left it there. but just to make sure, I replaced "hottest songs" with "most requested songs"--BoyoJonesJr 22:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

message: Why is the title "CIOO"  It's C100. Just wondering if its possible to change...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.98.102 (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: CIOO-FM is the call sign of the station; C100 is a brand name. Wikipedia titles radio station articles with their call signs. Bearcat (talk) 01:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title Page
Talk:Friedrich Wilhelm, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg

message: *Why is it that the world never remembered the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm? Category 13:54, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Template talk:Summary

message: Was on TFD, but was kept. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005. Radiant_>|< 14:07, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
:I like this template. It is very...visual. JHMM13 (T | C)   21:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks patronizing to me.Hektor 08:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: The preferences tab now provides a setting that automatically warns the user when he/she is about to post an edit without a summary.  Should reference to the availability of this setting be added to this template? Newyorkbrad 16:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: Would anyone support adding a parameter to specify the page that the recipient of this message forgot the summary for?  I have users wanting to know where they forgot.  I can add the option myself, but would like to see support for this first.  Also, someone might want to work on the wording when I am done.
One other detail: If we add the parameter metioned above, should we add ? Will (Talk - contribs) 01:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which page parameter?
Talk:Rashtriya Swayam Sevak Sangh

message: I've added the cleanup tag to this article. In addition to needing work on organization and sentence structure, there are some odd statements that don't sound very plausible (for example "The word Hindu for RSS means all the people who have Indian culture even Muslims and Christians.") --Lee Hunter 19:48, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Buffyverse task force/Template

message: Per TFD consensus (Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005), the Buffy character template was moved to WikiProject Buffy/Template. Radiant_>|< 14:10, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
What about characters that only appeared in canonical (comic)books... --Allycat 07:58, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

message: I really feel that this a pointless section. A perfect example being Doc's article, who Che pointed to as an example of applying the character template: an entire section for no more than three sentences (and lets face it, there probably isn't a single character that will go far beyond this in terms of the explaining that hir appearances envolves) is silly, and frankly, it ends up clumsy and pointless.
I suggest either
*including appearances in the intro. Taking Doc as an example again, it'd end up something like Doc is a fictional character in the American television series Buffy: the Vampire Slayer. He is played by Joel Grey. (etc. etc.), and black eyes. Doc first appeared on the show in the episode "Forever", and remained a supporting character(or something along these lines)until season five's final episode, "The Gift".
*or including them in characters' story. Again, exemplifying:
:(under Story)
:*Doc first appeared on the show in the episode "Forever". His final episode was "The Gift". During this time he was a supporting character.
:When Dawn is mourning the death of her mother, Spike takes her to Doc.  Doc is happy to help; unsettling so.  He recommends a powerful spell with rare components.  Dawn attempts the spell, but it is ultimately aborted.
:Later Spike brings Xander to Doc for more information, this time about Glory. (etc. etc. etc. yada yada and so on).
Opinions? If not, I'll start reworking "appearances" into the intros (which I view as the best solution, personally). Come on and speak your minds if there's a problem with this. Zeppocity 19:10, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearances
Talk:Patton (disambiguation)

message: I don't have time at the moment, but the newest edit should be reviewed with WP:MOSDAB in mind.  Items I would (and will unless someone has time sooner):
# Sort by most likely target (George S. undoubtedly comes out on top).
# Review some of the names - will people enter just 'Patton' to find them?
# Remove extraneous blue links.  dab pages are primarily for finding the target page.
John (Jwy) 19:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made an attempt at item 1, and completed item 3.  John (Jwy) 14:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent additions

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved.  Favonian (talk) 16:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Patton (disambiguation) →  – As with Cosby I don't see a clear primary topic. By views Patton Oswalt has the most (101,579) then the current target, George (72,863), the film has 17,604 which though based on the general is a full match for "Patton", the tank has 1,552 though may not be a full match, the place in Pennsylvania has 333, the place in Missouri has 157, the place in California has 104, the surname has 77, the hundred has 18, the place in Shropshire has 16, the place in West Virginia has 14, the place in Illinois has 12 and the place in Indianan has 8[]. Its not clear if the film is a competitor or not but due to being named after the general but even still I don't see a clear primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk)  16:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 September 2022
Talk:Anne Cools

message: Why was her picture deleted? Ground Zero 14:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the link to the chateline article as it was broken.  I'm not sure if an online version of the article still exists.Mr.Wizard 23:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has gone now.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.189.156 (talk) 14:10, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: added her to critics of feminism, but not sure where in the article I can put the souce. The link is on Voice for Men's site, which while I know is a wikipedia blacklisted link, is nonetheless a video of her speaking and an interview.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.75.121 (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism of feminism

message: Anne c. Cools was in love with broaches . 2601:4C1:C800:7170:742A:F54C:D5DF:1A68 (talk) 22:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broaches 

message: Honest question. What am I missing? She was on the parole board at one time, so arguably on the other side, so to speak. MauriceYMichaud (talk) 18:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is Cools listed in "Canadian female criminals" category?
Talk:Miss Universe Organization

message: This Information is all incorrect
Panama has had one miss Universe not 3.
India and Panama have had less semifinalist than the USA, Venezuela , Peru , Brazil and many others
Sweden has had 3 Miss Universe's making them the fourth most succesful countryMito 22:05, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've started a table of all the titleholders - just wondering if anyone can fix the colours so the demarcations are clearer? PageantUpdater 08:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table
Talk:Henry Cotton (doctor)

message: It would seem that this article is not appropriate for :category:mental health. I have placed it into :category:psychiatry, instead, but considering the nature of the material this may be contentious. --Vincej 14:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: If Trenton State had its own page I would link it to Willow Brooks but it doesn't so that's why I keep linking it to Doctor Cotton.
BTW should there be a Category listing notoriously bad medical facilities?
:Trenton State does have its own page: New Jersey State Hospital at Trenton 68.39.174.238 00:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: If Trenton State had its own page I would link it to Willow Brooks

message: "Recent attempts to deal with obesity using surgical intervention similar to that performed by Henry Cotton may be seen to be just as inadvisable in one hundred years. Who knows what will take the place of the brutal disfigurement of women suffering from breast cancer or the castration of men suffering from prostate cancer?"
Is this tone really encyclopedic?  Doesn't strike me as being so.  Comments like this make the whole article seem a bit apologetic in regards to Cotton...  --rsgdodge 22:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was BLATANTLY biased: no encyclopedia articel should ask rhetorical questions unless making a direct quotation from someone. That said, it does have a rather obvious lean and a lack of sourcing for most everything. 68.39.174.238 02:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone

message: Hello. The article mentions that the complete name of Henri Cotton was "Henri Andrews Cotton", but (at least) 2 references state that it was "Henri Aloysius Cotton": The Lancet (The cautionary tale of psychiatrist Henry Aloysius Cotton) and King's College London (Henry Cotton). So, what is correct?--Damyenj (talk) 16:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it "Henry Andrews Cotton" or "Henry Aloysius Cotton" ? 

message: Did I somehow miss it, or does the article lack mention of the fact that Dr. Cotton eventually pulled out some of his own teeth, too? Okama-San (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cotton removing his own teeth
Category talk:Mental health

message: I believe that this category has the potential for development. However, at the moment, it contains only a few articles. It is worth noting that articles in this category need to be about mental health not mental illness. Articles about specific mental health problems are listed in :Category:Mental illness diagnosis by DSM and ICD and :category:Abnormal psychology.
I would be grateful if some articles can be put into this category to populate it, or any other thoughts on the matter --Vincej 14:39, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: older message from 2005 

message: I believe there should be a subcategory for Mental Health Organizations to include NIMH, NAMI, etc.  -George100 07:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree --Vince 22:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mental Health Organizations

message: I have reverted the previous edit because it is appropriate that psychology and psychiatry are subcategories of mental health as mental health is broader concept that encompasses the two. I also think that mental health is a health speciality. You are welcome to debate this but please do so here before making any further changes. Thanks. --Vince 19:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Parent categories

message: I have added this category back as a subcategory of :category:positive mental attitude. Mental health is a personal entity and so should be part of positive mental attitude as a sub-category of self-care. Please refer to the category tree from the main page.
I have removed from public health and put it in the parent category of :category:health specialties. This seems uncontentious to me as it is a major division within health.
Please contribute to discussion if you disagree. --Vince (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories
Talk:Cfdisk

message: not functionally equivalent; fdisk is more mature and reliable than cfdisk—Trevor Caira 14:44, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny, due to incredible amount of bugs (misreading existing partitions, creating corrupt partitions etc) it has been removed from at least one linux distro (Redhat). I guess everyone has his own view of cfdisk ;-) --Xerces8 (talk) 12:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Here is the removal documented. If they readded it later, someone say so. --Xerces8 (talk) 12:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 1 

message: Who is the author of cfdisk?  Is it Kevin E. Martin? -- Sy / (talk) 12:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 2 

message: In 2010, hard drives with 4 KB sector sizes have been introduced. Besides, with the increasing size of hard drives, partition table formats such as GPT and partition best practices have evolved, the tendency being to ditch support for CHS geometries and align partitions on 1 MB boundaries.
* parted has evolved to support all of that
* fdisk has evolved to support most of that (still doesn't do GPT)
* cfdisk has not evolved (not yet?)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.126.180 (talk) 06:27, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status as of early 2011 

message: I don't think the version number of util-linux should be included in this article, cfdisk itself doesn't have a version number.
 
$ cfdisk -V
cfdisk from util-linux 2.35.1
- Flori4nKT A L K 16:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version number
Talk:Bruno (name)

message: Bruno just redirects to "Bruno (disambiguation)", better to have the disambiguation page at Bruno then. Can't do the move myself because there is a two entry history. --S.K. 14:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: *Support --S.K. 14:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to do it again, as someone had reinstated the redirect.  (Yes, I know the incidents were 18 months removed from each other.)  Powers T 13:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "It is derived from the Germanic word brun meaning Shield or Armor" while the linked Wiktionary entrance states that "From Italian, German etc continental European Bruno, name of medieval Italian and German saints and royalty, Latinized form of Old High German brūn (“brown”). The surname is mostly borrowed from Italian Bruno."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.238.209.101 (talk) 10:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Definiton

message: Bruno 172.193.68.154 (talk) 06:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bruno
Talk:Angry Johnny

message: There seems to be no logical reason for this to be cateogirzed under "Tori Amos" or "Y Kant Tori Whatever".  It's not a Tori Amos song.
Deleting irrelevant info.
I deleted it from the category of "1988 singles" as well. Deathawk 04:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Degree Confluence Project

message: I added a photo, but I'm not completely happy with it because there are too many other numbers showing on the GPS screen. My photo at http://www.confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=8332&pic=4 is more readable; but it's 0.1" out, and I really wanted one that showed "all zeros". Does anyone have a photo which meets both goals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen Turner (talk • contribs) 15:11, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Photoshop is your friend. You could copy and paste the 0" in the second line onto the 1" in the first line, and then crop the image down to the screen. But a map of the world with some confluences marked out would be a better way to illustrate this article; it would remove any doubt as to what they are. -Ashley Pomeroy 02:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  A nicely appropriate photo I think, on the Greenwich line.  The quality is typical or better than most of them, so I wouldn't worry about it. Landroo 22:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: I don't have a login (and don't really want one either), but could someone update the "percentage complete" with newest stats from the projects site?
/Tuk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.41.97.4 (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can edit without a login on most pages - including this one. - DavidWBrooks 13:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update
Talk:Onyx Cave

message: I cleaned up the article a bit and changed the categories. I hope no one minds me removing the statement that "most of the cave is underground". ;) --Pagrashtak 15:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: this was probably about some version of an article no longer here, as here is now a disambig page.  Funny comment though :) doncram (talk) 00:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: old comment