Talk:Hung Up

message: 2005, not 1999!
What in the world is happening with this article
"Hung up" is from 2005, why the year 1999 appears everywhere as year of realease, recording and charting??? That is outrageously wrong you guys!
190.81.73.67 (talk) 21:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Year 

message: "It has become one of the most successful singles of all time, reaching number one in a record breaking forty-four countries and is the best selling dance single of all time.[1] It became Madonna's first U.S. top-ten single in three years. It is one of her best-selling singles to date, selling nearly five million copies"
It's THE best-selling DANCE single of all times, and ONE OF Madonnas's best-selling singles. Since (almost all) Madonna's music is dance, isn't this song THE best-seeling single from her - and so the info is redundant?
:: Er, no....I would hardly class "Live To Tell" or "Crazy For You" as dance.  Madonna makes pop music, I don't think all of her work strays into dance.Paul75 00:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Best-selling single

message: Thanks for adding the Australian chart!! :)
can i just point out that the sample is of "ring, ring" by abba and not "gimmie , gimmie , gimmie"
um no madonna says ring, ring, ring in the song, but the ABBA sample is from a song called "Gimme, Gimme, Gimme (a man after midnight)"
The sample is definitely from Gimme Gimme Gimme, and if you want to be correct the machine Madonna and co. dance on isn't Dance Dance Revolution, but Dancing Stage Fusion (Dancing Stage is the name of the games released for PAL consoles - like UK and Australia - and all officially exported arcade machines outside of Japan and Korea). 81.27.192.19 16:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: also what is up with that picture of a 7", its not the record for this single. she's not even on MGM, i would take it off but im afraid to mess up the formatting --Blehpunk 17:02, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: if there's no cover (for upcoming singles/ albums) this MGM dummy is used until the real cover is released. --Red-Blue-White 15:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Everyone can post informations. --Red-Blue-White 15:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions

message: ummmmm, hey I like Madonna a lot, and this is a great song, but aren't we getting a little carried away with the chart information here?  -- eo 00:30, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the iTunes stuff should be mentioned, but they arent an official chart. Does it look better now? OmegaWikipedia 08:58, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: iTunes are the most important digital sales charts. Of course it does matter and of course their released charts are official. --Red-Blue-White 18:50, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Charts

message: "Red-Blue-White" - please show us DETAILED HIGH-RESOLUTION PICTURE of your rumored "promo vinyl" with rumored "Instrumental Version"! We want to see the cover of your rumored "promo vinyl" with the full tracklisting!   
1. A photo or scan of the rumored "Promo Vinyl" with the "Instrumental Version" and CATALOGUE NUMBER of this rumored vinyl!
 
2. A photo or scan of the rumored vinyl with the "Alternate Version Names" (aka Tracy Young Mix Edit, aka Stuart Price Remix...) and CATALOGUE NUMBER of this rumored vinyl!
  
User 81.27.192.19
::In this article we list all existing official versions. The vinyl wasn't a regular release but some copies arrived at some shops. This 12" promo (12" - catalogue number W695T, release date  - 7th November 2005) includes:
:::1. Hung Up [Album Version]
:::2. Hung Up [Instrumental]
:::3. Hung Up [Stuart Price Full Mix]
:::4. Hung Up [Tracy Young Mix Edit] 
:::You find it at many sites: , ,  and at  you can find pictures. --Red-Blue-White 12:09, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: The published vinyl tracklists are a reference for the missing versions: This site lists released and unreleased versions. --Red-Blue-White 14:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promo/ Instrumental 

message: On which Japanese chart has she been #1? The one for imports or radio station J-Wave's highly unofficial and unreliable Tokyo Hot 100? I'm asking this because Madonna, like most other non-Japanese artists, does not fare that well in any official Japanese charts (like the Oricon).
Chsf 14:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Madonna has been #1 at all big Japanese charts including Foreign Singles Chart, Zip FM Hot 100 (Radio) and the biggest charts Tokio Hot 100 and Osakan Hot 100 . It's no big surprise - she has been #1 3 times in Japan the last 5 years. Oricon is the biggest national chart - but mainly for Japanese music only (I hope that Information is correct). --Red-Blue-White 21:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan 

message: The editors of this page are obviously american as there are 5 us charts shown and only 1 of the australian charts shown. this is a really shit site i am sick of it and will no longer view it. People have ruined it the first one was that fuck head extroadinary machine.
:Please, no personal attacks. To quote user:FuriousFreddy: encyclopedias aren't supposed to be "complete"; they are supposed to provide overviews and guide users to further information on a subject if they want to go beyond the standard level. Something like a Madonna fan wiki would be a fine place to have an article on every chart that "Hung Up" appeared on, but a general-purpose encyclopedia is not. See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Pop music issues, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines/Songs and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts. Extraordinary Machine 18:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart removals

message: Are there sources for HU 3 mill.?  --Red-Blue-White 19:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources HU 3 mill.

message: Is there really the need for all those Billboard magazine chart listings? I've been repeatedly trimming them down for a while, but my edits keep being reverted for unexplained reasons. Also, about the U.S. Hot 100 Singles Sales, Hot Digital Songs and Hot 100 Airplay: to quote user:FuriousFreddy's explanation, these are used by Billboard to calculate the main Hot 100 chart positions. It's not really necessary to list them unless, for some reason, a song didn't appear on the Hot 100, but did appear on one of these. Extraordinary Machine 12:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The song charted for five weeks at number one on the Billboard Dance Radio Airplay chart. I believe that this is notable without argument. Any objections? –Eternal Equinox 19:59, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excess U.S. chart listings 

message: To the person who has been updating sales figures : it's great that you are doing this, but please ensure that you quote a source for this information - ie website, printed media etc.  It is mandatory as per Wikipedia:Citing sources and by providing this information you would not only be giving other users a way of verifying the information, but may even be providing a link to useful information that could enhance this and other articles.  If you aren't sure how to go about referencing the information please send a message to my talk page, and I'll be happy to help, but I can't stress enough how important this is.  Thanks Rossrs 00:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales figures

message: The article Hung Up and its talk page are mistitled. As it stands, this article isn't going to be going anywhere if the talk page doesn't even have the same name as its lead article. The error needs to be corrected. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article names

message: Hi all
Are 20 weeks the maximum allowed? I am curious if it fell off the Hot 100 after the 20th week or not.PatrickJ83 20:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If a song is charted below position number fifty after its twentieth week on the Hot 100 (but has not descended position number 100), it will automatically be removed. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks :-) PatrickJ83 05:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The chart boxes 

message: Well, I've cleaned up this article, it's needed it for a long long time....not sure if I have condensed it down enough though, hopefully it is not as bloated as it used to be.  What do people think?  Any comments welcome!! Paul75 00:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: CLEANED UP

message: I removed the succession boxes because I believe they are pointless, and are not encyclopedic in nature.  What was number one before and after "Hung Up" is not relevant to the subject.  This is an article on "HUNG UP", not the Canadian Top 40 or the World Music Charts. A point to think about is the fact that 'Hung Up' had three seperate runs at number one in Canada, and would thus require 3 seperate sucession boxes - pointless and a waste of space. Paul75 23:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are succession boxes on most articles for number one songs. I use them all the time. I'm putting them back. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sucession Boxes

message: The song was more successful than ABBA's Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! but it was not thier biggest hit. Dancing Queen and Fernando sold more than Hung Up.
That quote was from the Sunday Times, it was not a definitive statement on ABBA's record sales Paul75 23:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hung Up is not ABBA's biggest hit

message: Which are the three most succesful singles of all time? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.82.59.204 (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Most succesful singles

message: The article says 43, but when you count them, there are 49 (as of 10/01/07) so, anyone know the actual figure? 60.234.242.196 20:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Guiness Book of Records 1997 says 41 countries only 60.234.242.196 08:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  1997?????? Paul75 21:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  living in the wrong decade/century/millennium. That is 2007 of course .. oops 60.234.242.196 11:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There's something wrong about it, "Hips Don't Lie" by Shakira and Wyclef officialy hit #1 in more than 40 countries and to date it's supposed that there's more countries missing in the #1 list, so i'm not completly sure if "Hung Up" holds the record. --McMare's 04:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No.1 Countries

message: This also needs to be checked. Cher's 'Believe' sold 10m, almost twice this and is also considered to be the best-selling dance single. 60.234.242.196 11:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Best selling dance single

message: I have condensed the charts section of the article because the section was ridiculously bloated.  It doesn't really need the countries Hung Up peaked at number one in listed over and over and over again.....Paul75 22:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Charts

message: If that's how its spelt can we get some chart trajactories up for Hung Up please? Thanks!
:No, we can't. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 21:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CHARTS ShadowHalo 00:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chart Trajactories

message: American singer songwriter?
I'm pretty sure Madonna is not American....
: Er, she was born in America....
Madonna is American. She is from Detroit.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.181.61.49 (talk) 22:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ughhhhhh 

message: I believe the statement about the song's structure is correct. The song only has one verse, the rest of the song consisting of the chorus and various bridges  (the bridges being those sections starting with "ring ring ring goes the telephone", "I can't keep on waiting for you" and the musical fade down towards the end).  Any comments?
"Ring ring ring.. etc" is not a bridge, it's a verse. It has the same chord pattern and follows the same lyrical structure as the other verse in the song, which starts with "Time goes by so slowly for those who wait, no time to hesitate.. etc."
If "Ring, ring" were a bridge, it would be leading into another bridge--"I can't keep on waiting for you..." (76.22.201.109 20:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Song Structure

message: I removed the following sentence:
:"(It is rumored that they first enacted this policy after the release of Ice Ice Baby and what it did to the reputation to the Queen and David Bowie song Under Pressure.)"
Quite aside from the fact that this is clearly a violation of NPOV, ABBA's anti-sampling policy certainly pre-dates Ice Ice Baby, which came out in 1989 -- in 1987 they'd already forced the JAMS to withdraw a song which heavily sampled 'Dancing Queen'. Gusworld (talk) 18:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABBA's sampling policy 

message: Hi there, I think the CD1 (of 2) of the UK version does NOT contain the long version of the Tracy Young mix, but the edit. [4:16]. I researched this in various sources, and I'm now more than 99% sure about that. Also see http://www.madonnarecords.com/data/record.asp?id=4256 (NOTE ignore the "CD Maxi", it is a CDsingle); and http://www.buysellmadonna.com/hotnews-part4.htm -andy 92.226.132.39 (talk) 17:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  W695CD1 tracklist error? 

message: ""Hung Up" is Madonna's biggest selling single to date" - really? i thought it was vogue and then like a prayer... there is no refference, so i think it should be removed.--93.122.133.67 (talk) 16:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: is this true?

message: I Know that the single topped the International Charts for many weeks but did it even make it in to the Weekly Top 100??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.129.209.23 (talk) 21:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Oricon Weekly Charts

message: "Hung Up is [...] the 43rd most successful single of all time". The only source for this sentence that I've found is Mediatraffic wich is listed at WP:BADCHARTS. I guess that the contributors who put the sentence in the article had used as source Mediatraffic, so I think the sentence should be removed --♫Smanu! 11:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hung Up is the 43rd most successful single of all time

message: I don't agree with changes made by Legolas about succession boxes. There are several reasons :
* 1/ There is nothing in WP policies and guidelines or elsewhere to justify this removal
* 2/ "Succession boxes serve as navigational aids" per WP: SBS. All the countries removed provided links to other articles
* 3/ Billboard Hot Dance Airplay chart is kept, although it is a component chart that shouldn't be included in the chart table per WP:CHARTS
* 4/ Keeping only English-speaking countries seems to be a violation of WP:NPOV, as Wikipedia should not favour some countries
* 5/ The article had these succession boxes when it was promoted WP:GA.
-- Europe22 (talk) 18:02, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Succession boxes 

message: can someone do an expand of the "live Performances" section, now that the song has been performed on the MDNA Tour  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.241.50.90 (talk) 18:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  MDNA Tour performance 

message: An indication of certification is one of the intended purposes of infoboxes.  When that entry is omitted, it implies that a song has no certifications at all.  "Hung Up" has gone platinum, if not multi-platinum, almost everywhere.  Therefore the certification field should say something rather than nothing.  If infoboxes cannot be used for "quick facts," then they are pointless and should be eliminated, and readers should be made to search the entire article for whatever information they are looking for.- JGabbard (talk) 22:59, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, in the politest way, our readers have eyes and they can read, and the article has a huge box indicating how many certifications it has got from multiple markets. Just saying platinum gives the impression it has only that certification which is a deliberate factual error. Unlike a release history or a song timespan or writer/producer or even record label, a certification box is redundant in the infobox. It is used nowhere because most songs have multiple certifications. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 23:05, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: To mark "platinum" indicates wide achievement of platinum certification and is basically correct; to make it more correct it could perhaps read "Platinum/Gold."  But to omit this notation is to imply no certification at all, and is by far the greater error. Many facts in the infobox are typically duplicated in the opening paragraph, such as year of issue, writer, et cetera.  Shall we omit those from the infobox too, since they are redundant? The purpose of the infobox is to be "an index of fast facts," and should be fully utilized to function as it is designed. - JGabbard (talk) 02:30, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Who says that there is no certification at all? There is literally like a whole table of it. Again you are assuming that readers would think something. But to be fair on your logic, the certification field in the infobox itself feels redundant nowadays with so many songs receiving multiple plaques from different markets. The purpose here satisfies greatly, it gives enough information about the song and its time, writer, producer, label chronology etc. To add certification etc there will be no stopping of what we add to an infobox, next it will average MC score, or chart peak etc. Well that would be repetition again. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 18:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appropriate use of infoboxes 

message: Hung Up was considered the 26th best single of 2005 by Pitchfork. Can you add this information to the article?
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/6221-top-50-singles-of-2005/3/
Jimoincolor (talk) 20:41, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pitchfork's best songs of 2005 

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message: It's not only one of the best selling singles of all time it is her career best seller.  That should be in the opening paragraph  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:540:C400:8C80:FD9E:4B78:E377:61A3 (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her best selling single to date 

message: Its cited for years that Hung Up it has sell more than 5 million copies for sure worldwide. 
This ssite is used in another Madonna wikipedia page and it says Hung Up sold 9 million
https://web.archive.org/web/20100304013831/http://today.ninemsn.com.au/travelandlifestyle/1014383/hits-from-1990 
even at sites like mediatraffic and chartmasters (only digital/physical sales) the number is higher than 5 million Johnny Gnecco (talk) 13:58, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Johnny. I changed the figure. I know that there are many unreported sales from several countries. And sure the single sold more than 5M, but the 9M seems a notorious gap when "Hung Up" only have available sales of 3.7 million copies. I think is fine if there is a source claiming 6-7M because seems closest to available numbers, but I couldn't find it. Unless, anyone desagree personally I "vote" to keep by now the 5M. Regards, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 19:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The source says that the numbers are taken by a user from UKMIX tho, which is just a site and not an official source as the one i posted above... Johnny Gnecco (talk) 23:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry for the late response. I also noticed that fact, but I tried to apply WP:CONTEXTMATTERS with available numbers using a secondary source (GWR). Anyway, I changed the source with this one. While "Hung Up" follow the tendecy of most of her releases (or a remarkable amount) in the sense that she matched or outsells her own U.S sales (Gold/Platinum/Multi-platinum levels) around the world unlike many American recording artists, the available numbers (now above 4 million based on certifications/estimated figures) still being a figure below 50% if we put again the 9 million. Regards, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why its total sales are changed? 

message: What about Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!! ? Will Stanwyx (talk) 23:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only the second song to sample ABBA?