Talk:Hyde Park, Leeds

message: : From the article: In July 2005 the area made national news headlines as the home of one of the July 7th London bombers as well as being the location of the terrorists' "Bomb Factory".
The area might have made national news as the home of one of the bombers, I haven't checked July's news, but none of the bombers were as far as I can see from Hyde Park. The bomb factory is in the article about the bombings regarded as being in Burley, however I guess it can be regarded as being in Hyde Park too. Gunnar Larsson 22:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and as nobody has complained I think it should be deleted. Rex the first 02:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: To clarify this a little, though I don't feel this needs the article changing- (this is mainly for interest), significant parts of the area that is known as "Hyde Park" by residents lies within the Headingley Ward. Changes were made to the ward boundaries in June 2004.
The July 7th "Bomb Factory" is in an area that is regarded by many as part of "Hyde Park", and lies within the Hyde Park and Woodhouse Ward though is more often marked on maps as "Burley Lodge" or "Burley". This is also the Location of the Newlands Pub, which was the main start point for the Riots. These are often referred to though as the "Hyde Park Riots". 
I will in time expand this article and add some links.
One thing I feel drawn to do, however is changing the references to Anarchist and Free Party Movements. I think neither are matter suitable information about the location of people who may or may not be involved publicised. Thanks. Acidsaturation 13:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bombings

message: As I suspected, no statistics support the claim that there is a sizeable caribbean population. On the contrary, according to National statistics, Hyde Park's Black Caribbean population is below the Leeds average.
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This comment shall, therefore, be removed.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sanchezhenn (talk • contribs) 10:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for checking and updating that Acidsaturation 15:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caribbean population in Hyde Park  

message: Highly contentious.
Any local businessman would inform that the Student population support these independent shops, such as the international supermarket. Every time I go in ther, the mile long que seems to be filled with fellow students. This exemplifies the intergration of student and natives, rather than, as the article suggests, meets the needs of the local community.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sanchezhenn (talk • contribs) 11:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think where this is contentious is in the context of the friction between students and local residents. Sadly the integration is far less than many students (and the University) would like to think. Of course my statement of this is influenced by my POV (which is both student and long term resident), and many residents would say different as would many students. Businesses cater for the population of an area, whosoever that may be - so in an area that is >50% student they will cater for students and students will keep them going. I think the original author was trying to say that there are still a number of shops catering more for the community - unless all students eat and all shops in student areas sell very specialised south asian brands and foodstuff. Acidsaturation 15:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asian shops giving the area a local community. 

message: As noted above, you would think reading this article that Hyde Park is a charming place to live. Again published propaganda extolling the wonderful multicultural experience of LS6 is much better than the honest reality of this urban hellhole. It's funny Wikipedia needs something to be published to prove it actually exists/occurred/happened even though one saw it with their own eyes. I notice there are editors on this article who like to spout you need a source knowing full well that on can't be given to protect their own agendas. It's how censorship works I suppose. Besides it doesn't matter if they're black or white, the permanent residents of Hyde Park are generally nasty, parasitic malcontents because anyone wanting to live there by choice must have some sociopathic disorder. Personally I was there in '98-'01 while doing some post grad work.. A couple instances, among many, make me so grateful that my family and I can now live in an up-market area. 
An example of unprovoked violence.
My mate Chris was in the kebab shop shop off Cardigan Road when half-a-dozen "Leeds Leeds Leeds" youths come in and start giving everyone a bad time. The usual "you a student?" "got a light?" quickly changed to "got any change?". Soon it all kicked off and my mate got hit several times but what they didn't know was that Marcel, the short fellow, was both a doctorate reader and a kickboxing champ. My friend said it was like a Van Damme movie as he just knocked them down like skittles. Anyway battered and bleeding the thugs ran off but pretty soon came back with a crowd of more aggressive hoodie thugs and they were looking for blood. Luckily Chris and everyone had already left and the shop had pulled its shutter down. Still it took a police car and a few dogs to clear the streets! 
An example of the money-driven Asian landlord.
A group of girls I knew  had an issue with their "ethic" landlord - who rented about 20 properties - over dangerous electrics caused by damp. When they complained and got the Student Union's housing officer on to him, he forced his way into their property, with his bouncers screaming "my house, my house" and ripped out the fuse box. He did this in December!!! The girls had no heat, lights or hot water in winter! They got told by the police it was a civil matter and should call the council. It eventually went to county court, they won. But get this they got nothing because everything was all in the names of this guy's family, some of whom were not even in the UK. They lost almost a year's rent and he never paid a penny. It's likely he didn't pay tax either. He's probably still there, he used to drive a silver Mercedes and was always in the company of one or two large guys. 
Reading this article makes me laugh because it stinks of a politically-correct agenda, that ironically is just as blind to the truth as any other rigidly enforced doctrine can be.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.75.85 (talk) 03:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Local Scum

message: I found this: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19950712/ai_n13994114 which suggests that the situation regarding the Newlands' role in the riot may have been a little more nuanced.Nevov (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Riot/Newlands 

message: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5008804.stm this page demonstrates that Ricky Wilson was both a resident and was hit by a car in Hyde Park, not sure if this is close enough for the citation needed. MikelZap (talk) 21:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rocky Wilson 

message: It's in Headingley for council ward and policing area.  It's a long way from Hyde Park Road.  Shouldn't it be in the Headingley article?  Epa101 (talk) 21:19, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What makes Chestnut Avenue "Hyde Park"? 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: There's a lot in the article on the boundaries of Hyde Park, but this doesn't seem to have references. I'd like to have something to back it up. The south of the area marked on the map has traditionally been considered part of Burley. This is why the library in that area (now closed) was called "Burley Library". Many of the roads also have "Burley" somewhere in the name.
Leeds City Council used to do its own Neighbourhood Index, but it seems to have stopped now. You can see here that they labelled this area (with similar boundaries) as "Hyde Park, Burley", which implies that part of the area shown was Hyde Park and the other part was Burley. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20110929022940/http://www.leeds.gov.uk/files/Internet2007/2011/6/E02002383.pdf Epa101 (talk) 08:36, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boundaries