Talk:World War II/Archive Combatants

message: I think that this, or similar box (specifically the combattants part) would be better. Theres little to discuss about the fact that Japan, Germany US, GB and SU were the leaders of their "factions" but the was wasn't just Italy, Japan, Germany vs. US, SU and GB.
:You think wrong. Please do some more research as to the purpose and spirit of infoboxes. --NEMT 21:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with this is that it over-simplifies things. Belgium is mentioned here, but not China and India. I would contend that India was more important than Belgium, as it fought (usually out-fought) the Italians, the Germans and the Japanese. The Indians were involved in major battles, usually the nasty ones that really count. Again, it is easiest to stick with the major powers, who were the United States, Germany, the Soviet Union, Japan and the United Kingdom in that order. The war only became a world war when Germany declared war on the United States. Wallie
You're not supposed to look at how it looks now, it's a working concept. But if you don't like over simplifying you must certainly oppose the current box.
Rex 20:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: What I am saying is that if you bring in this level of detail, it can become inaccurate, or at least start a complicated debate. As mentioned, Canada and Poland will be included. And then everyone will want to bring in their country too. Wallie 21:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: So it doesn't quite work, does it? Wallie 21:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Tell you why. There are at least 60 countries involved in WW2. That means 60 countries multiplied by 7 years. That's an awful lot of flags! (around 420?). You might have to include Hawaii too. After all, it was invaded... Wallie 21:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Check this out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Society#Military_conflict_infobox 
Haber 18:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I think most of them were engaged in combat all the time. Take India for example. They fought solidly from 1939 right through to 1945, and in Asia, Europe and Africa. The same applies to Australia. They fought in all these places plus Australia and the Pacific sea battles too. There are a lot of other countries that never stopped fighting. This has to include all countries, not just current EU members. Wallie 20:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, or we could leave things the way they are, you know, the way that works just fine and isn't ridiculously cluttered or byzantine. --NEMT 00:57, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Again, many people would think their own country was a major participant every year. I'm sure the Chinese would, given the number of people they lost. Your own country fought the Germans, including while occupied. So how could you leave the Netherlands out in any year. (OK maybe 1939, but no others, please). Wallie 18:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we should include Poland in the axis after 1939, as Poland declared war on USSR in late 1939? Just joking, although they did declare war on the USSR, but Polish military effort was insignificant (so was the French) - as in reality over 95% of axis were taken out by the Big Three and China, with at least 75%-80% of Germans and their european allies and up to a 1/4 of Japanese and their asian allies were taken out by the USSR. People who claim that Polish, Dutch, French etc. war effort on the allied side was significant either don't understand what happened during WW2 or are lyers. If there were 100 evil monkeys, and I killed 1 while 4 other guys killed the rest, claiming that my effort was SIGNIFICANT is bull. With respect, Ko Soi IX 20:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: For combatants Canada and a bunch more like France etc, should be added.  It is disrespectful to these nations which lost tens of thousands of men to not even be listed! --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.100.171 (talk • contribs) 
For combatants, Canada and a bunch more like France etc, should be added. It is ignorant, and disrespectful to these nations which lost tens of thousands of men to not even be listed!  France was the biggest player aganst Germany prior to her defeat. Canada took huge losses at Normandy, etc, etc.  Australians fought and died agianst the Japanese, and the Germans in N. Africa.    You might not be able to list them all, but these are needed.  BTW, italy became allied and was never a major threat to the allies, unlike France's potential threat to Germany. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.100.171 (talk • contribs) 
:Two words: and others. --NEMT 16:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Italy never a threat to the allies? That if I may say so is complete rubbish, and an insult to Italians and those that fought them. Incidentally my uncle was killed in the desert by Italian troops, so to me that comment is bordering on offensive. The Italians put up a hell of a fight in the desert. They completely overran the Allied positions on a number of occasions. Wallie 19:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Populations - Italy 44 million; Canada 11 million; Australia 7 million. Haber 04:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Combatants