Talk:1997 Pacific hurricane season

message: This article should be split up, and the western pacific typhoons moved into 1997 Pacific typhoon season. Jdorje
:It says in the page that typhoons that form east of the dateline, Oliwa and Paka, are of interest because they are monitored by the CPHC. Also, please sign your name, whoever you are. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:01, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, sorry I forgot to sign it.  And yes, you're right: however it might be necessary to make it more clear; AFAIK the "Oliwa" and "Paka" names aren't assigned until the storms pass into the wpac (if that's not the case, then I'm confused on how naming is done when storms move between these two basins, and that should be explained too). Jdorje 05:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oliwa and Paka are Central Pacific names. Both became tropical storms in the CPac and received names then but did not become typhoons until reaching the WPac. - Cuivienen 21:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  split 

message: The storms shouldn't be under the season summary section.  There should be separate EPac and CPac storms sections I believe...though maybe it's better to keep them in chronological order.  Also, the intro is weak since the first paragraph gives no useful information. Jdorje 03:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo

message: I think this article is auperior than a plain Class B article. I'm not going to change the class, but it should be. juan andrés 04:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally we've been nominating articles for A-class on the wikiproject talk/assessment page. — jdorje (talk) 13:58, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Now, all needed is a todo section (obvously here, in the talk page) to see what this article needs to be an FA-class. juan andrés 01:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A class

message: I think this article deserves a peer review to improve it to FA. I think this article is very well done and it has all characteristics (in my opinion) of a Featured Article. I think that:
*Text is well organized.
*The article is written pretty nice.
*It has tables that support the article [pretty nice table I think :)]  
*The pictures support strongly the article.
*Templates synthesize all the information.
*The article cites its references.
*It has an introductory paragraph.
Since assessment, I think this article is ignored and needs to be peer viewed.
Sincerely, juan andrés 03:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to see the tables redone a bit.  These were madeline's first tables, I think, and since then we've achieved a mroe consistent set of tables as seen in List of Category 5 Pacific hurricanes, List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes, and List of retired Atlantic hurricanes.  Another potential/future table format, which you should give your opinions on, is in 2003 Atlantic hurricane season. — jdorje (talk) 07:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The table is fine, because it synthesizes all the impact information, but the problem is that is a little messy. I think a little bit of color would be fine. Now my question: What is it meant by "more consistent"? My first thought was that the table was obsolete. Maybe I'm correct mayebe not, so I wish the answer was specified. juan andrés 21:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference is that there is no table sorting storms by intensity, unlike in those other articles. — jdorje (talk) 02:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I got it! Thank you juan andrés 04:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I have a better idea! Why not to put the table on a new article called "2003 Atlantic hurricane season statistics"? Because the chart looks a little messy in the article. juan andrés 21:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are some difficulties with trying to get this featured... which will be hard to deal with. Such as whitespace between some of the sections on individual storms because of the size of the pictures. I'll try and reduce whitespace. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 01:21, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Elsewhere, whitespace problems are solved either by alternating the alignment of the pictures or by using / instead of .  Or both. — jdorje (talk) 02:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 3 suggestions to reduce whitespace: Use see also links to the NHC archive, like with 2004AHS, expand on the entries slightly and edit the pics (Carlos could be cropped easily).--Nilfanion (talk) 10:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review (you can help!!) 

message: I am currently working on an external timeline in the manner of recent seasons. Should there be a seperate article, Timeline of the 1997 Pacific hurricane season, or not? Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would probably overwhelm the rest of the article, so I say yes. Titoxd(?!?) 23:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2005. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: Pass

message: If it is not possible to expand these sections further, please remove the infoboxes. The old section for depressions is commented out.Potapych (talk) 02:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tropical Depressions 

message: I think we cad do pages for Oliwa, Andres, Olaf.Leave Message orYellow Evan home 03:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yellow Evan, you don't have to go around to talk pages asking for articles. Somebody will get to it eventually. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles 

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** In 1939 California tropical storm on 2011-06-04 16:00:08, 404 Not Found
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message: Impact is very minimal and seems to be of WP:ROUTINE nature. Noah, AATalk 14:33, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, I found this journal on the storm from 2012, and this journal from 1999, plus there is significant coverage of the storm from this source in 2020, so there is certainly some WP:SUSTAINED coverage.108.58.37.250 (talk) 21:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The palisadeshudson article makes passing mention of Ignacio and the 1999 AMS journal article is about the 1997 EP hurricane season as a whole, not just Ignacio. Neither sufficiently demonstrate notability for this specific storm, nor do they together. The 2012 AMS article is an academic meteorological case study on the storm, and does demonstrate its notability to some degree. However, one article alone, 15 years later, does not constitute "sustained coverage". Drdpw (talk) 16:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Neutral - Honestly, I don't mind a merge, given that it was just a minimal, very weak storm with minimal impacts. However, it has some notability, given that it set unusual TC rainfall records in two northwest states. Plus, the impact section in the storm article is sufficient enough with its minimal impacts. It can be summarized more in its storm section in the season article, yes it definitely needs that, but I'm on the fence on whether this should be merged or not. The season article is arguably just fine and adequate on its own, although it could use some expanding. ~ Sandy14156 (Talk ✉️) 21:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Tropical Storm Ignacio (1997)]] into [[1997 Pacific hurricane season]]