Talk:Vanessa Rousso

message: :She said last night that she received confirmation on that day and that said that it was "100% for sure" in an interview by Amanda Leatherman at the WPT Southern Poker Championship. The source that "Sports Illustrated decided to cancel her inclusion in the issue, with no specific reason given." should be removed at it's in direct conflict to a statement she gave lest then 24 hours ago per WP:V. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡Talk 21:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ThePlayr Poker News and Casino City have both reported that SI said she is out, however WPT.com is a pretty reliable source so I have no problem with this being left out for the time being. If it comes out that she is in fact out of the shoot I'll revert your edit. DegenFarang (talk) 22:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Casino City seems like a reliable source to use as a source that she isn't appearing, especially if it's more recent than the other source. The Playr article seems awfully thin on details though. Rray (talk) 00:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition with Vanessa Rousso 

message: I have two sources with two different last names for her mother.  Any clue?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  20:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mother's last name 

message: Does anyone know whose record Rousso broke for the youngest female at a final table or if the record still stands?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  04:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youngest final table 

message: I have some questions about the reliability of the online poker site:
*What makes poker-babes.com reliable? 
** This site is published by Shirley Rosario (also see WP bio at Shirley Rosario).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  21:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Times of London, New York Times, Associated Press, etc. Clearly qualifies as an expert, but also isn't used to reference stats or anything like that, only uncontroverisal stuff. 2005 (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I'll give you about day to establish these sources as reliable before I start ripping them out. This is a BLP, and as such, we should be using the best sources available. Not crap you found while googling and tossed them in. Synergy 22:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll just be reverted, please don't randomly rip apart well sourced articles. Please refer to WP:RS, and the text on experts, etc. 2005 (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is subject to WP:BLP, so ripping out bad sources is a good thing. None of these websites are established as experts. The onus is on Tony to prove this, not us. So stop turning this around on to suit your needs. Prove these sources are reliable, and they won't be removed. Synergy 22:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Onus on Tony, what are you talking about? This article has been written by many editors. It is a BLP and there are rules covering that.  As I already demonstrated above there is no doubt these are expert sources (except perhaps the Pokerlistings one), and none are referencing anything controversial.  You can challenge references but the onus is on a questioner to demonstrate unreliability, especially in the face of clear evidence they are reliable, not just say they don't "look" good.  "Ripping out" reliable sources from an article contributed to by dozens of articles over a period of years is not appropriate.  As of now, the doc.newsbank.com refs Tony recently added are the ones that do need to be upgraded to real reliable sources, but that is just a metter of finding the original articles. 2005 (talk) 22:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but the onus is one the editors at this talk page to demonstrate reliability - those who wish to use the sources must demonstrate that they are reliable. Awadewit (talk) 22:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I've already done that, then we can move on. Except the specific usage of Pokerlistings where perhaps Hendon Mob should be used instead, I've demonstrated clearly these are reliable sources.  If you want to somehow dispute the Washinton Post saying Pokerstars is the largest online poker site in the world, or dispute that Cardplayer uses hendon Mob stats, then the onus is now on you to somehow demonstrate that. 2005 (talk) 22:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online poker sites and RS 

message: French american ???? french poker player ??? She speaks poor french, with accent, and use a lot of english words while talking. Please, remove that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.207.71.56 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: She lived in France until the age of ten and her father is french.  Actually, the techinical definition of French-American is born in America to at least one parent of French heritage.  Unless she denies association with this ethnic identity, it should be in her bio.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  12:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: MOS:CONTEXTBIO says French doesn't belong in lead. Born in US, all notable activities in US. Lived in France for while but irrelevant to her notable activities. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: French American

message: If I am thinking of the correct contestant, I believe it was Rousso who said she was in a relationship with a woman on last night's episode of Big Brother. If this is the case, and obviously if we can find a reliable source, we may need to add a bit to the article about her sexual orientation / relationship status and add appropriate categories. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That's certainly how she is being identified on AfterEllen - see here and here. Tabercil (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there are credible links showing she has a girlfriend  (who is also her fianceé), I've added her to the LGBT people from the United States category.
Since there's some controversy about whether she is a lesbian, I present to you this interview where she is unambiguous: "I hope that at least opened minds up as to what it means to be in a lesbian relationship," Tabercil (talk) 03:51, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Still more sources... from the Toronto Sun newspaper: "a millionaire poker playing lesbian, Vanessa Rousso". Tabercil (talk) 04:03, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We have had discussions about whether a subject is or "not" LGBT (by "not" I'm referring to if the subject identifies as such). The consensus in a nutshell is that the subject (and only the subject) must explicity state their sexuality, i.e. I'm lesbian/bi/gay/etc. See Jodie Foster and Lindsay Lohan articles and talk pages. South Florida makes it clear "I hope that at least opened minds up as to what it means to be in a lesbian relationship", a lesbian relationship (reworded, a relationship between 2 women), but that doesn't mean she is lesbian. In fact, she was married with a man before (per that article). She belongs to the LGBT ... categories, but not to the Lesbian ... categories unless she say it. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 04:27, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Big Brother'' + sexual orientation 

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