Talk:Roy Shivers

message: Edit 1:  Saying a citation is needed to show that many of the players Roy brought to Saskatchewan were recruited from his free agent camps in the Southern US is just being nit picky.  There is no difinative list of players Roy recruited via his free agent tryout camps available everywhere.  Rather, this information is available through many differant Regina Leader-Post articles as well as Riderville.com chats with Roy Shivers and Danny Barrett.  As the Leader-Post does not archive beyond 30 days and Riderville.com material is not available to the non-paying public, citations are not available.  That does not mean the information is inaccurate.  The person making these edits knows full well that Shivers recruited many players through these tryout camps, but he is simply adding a "citation needed" mark to something that he knows has no citation available online simply to cast doubt because he is biased.  This goes directly to the NPOV policy.  The "citeation needed" mark has been removed.
Edit 2:  DerekDD added a sentance regarding the 2002 team making the playoffs for the first time since 1997: "However, it was the Riders' strong defensive improvement that was the main catalyst in this regard."  This again violates the NPOV policy.  The Riders' 2001 defence ranked 3rd for points against allowing 21.4 points per game  while the Riders' 2002 defence were again ranked 3rd for points against allowing 21.2 points per game .  There is virtually no differance between the Riders' defensive production in 2001 and 2002.  All that the sentance does is try and marginalize the importance of the acquisition of quarterback Nealon Greene because the user who made the edit is biased.  On the flip side, the Roughriders' offense went from scoring the least amount of points in 2001 at 289 points and the second lowest time of posession  to scoring the 3rd least amount of points in 2002 at 401 points and the second best time of posession .  The stats conclusively show that it was the offensive production that improved, not the defence, and as the only major player addition in 2002 from 2001 was Nealon Greene, the assertion that he was the spark that got the Riders in the playoffs for the first time since 1997 is valid.  I reverted the edit back to the way it was.
Edit 3:  I already provided the citation showing the Riders were out of debt.  DerekDD took it out; I'm putting it back.
Edit 4:  I again took out the part regarding the crossover rule.  It is being used to influence how the fact that the Riders made the playoffs 4 times in a row is perceived, and it is being used to create a negative perception.  This is a biographical piece, not an editorial.  The relevant fact is that the Roughriders made the playoffs 4 times in a row.  Making the playoffs via the crossover rule is just as valid of a way to make the playoffs as any other way.
Edit 5:  I removed all the stuff talking about players entering in to their option year or outright free agency from the "Controversy and a Mixed Record."  If it's relevant, it belongs in the section dealing with Roy's firing.
Edit 6:  I removed the "citation needed" tag from the part about the Riders offering Henry the richest contract in team history.  This was revealed numerous times in the Leader-Post at the time the negotiations between the Riders and Burris were taking place.  Again, the Leader-Post does not archive past 30 days. --Roughriderfan 04:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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