Talk:Azali

message: This picture has erroneously been labeled as representing the Azali community of Tehran in the year 1910. Per the upload description from the Qamar Taj Dawlatabadi collection (sub-category Ahmad Hakim collection) of Harvard University's Women's World in Qajar Iran, it is actually the Azali Babi community of Isfahan. Although no date has been specified in that collection for when this photograph was taken, the apparel worn by the photographed assemblage clearly shows it to be from the 1930s or early 1940s. Additionally the Harvard University page clearly states that Qamar Taj Dawlatabadi is the second person from the first row in this photograph. Qamar Taj Dawlatabadi was born in 1908 or 09 and died in 1982. The woman in the second row from left in the picture is clearly a fully grown Persian adult woman in her late 20s or mid '30s which, again, places the timeline of the photograph in the 1930s/40s. Research of apparel worn by women during that era in Iran also demonstrates that this picture was taken during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlavi (1926-1941) or his son (1941-1979) as prior to this date it is rare to find women and men mixed in group photographs in Iran or for younger women to not be wearing the hijab.
Please amend this information accordingly per the information provided above. Here are the links to the relevant Harvard pages: http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/49864645?buttons=y&printThumbnails=true
http://www.qajarwomen.org/en/items/13114A3.html
http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/49864645?width=2400&height=1855&html=y
http://www.qajarwomen.org/en/people/109.html
Also, FYI, this photograph was first placed in the public domain in 2009 and on the article of this page of the site Iranian.com: http://iranian.com/main/blog/nur/bayani-community-iran.html  
95.90.237.35 (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the work you did to pull this together it wouldn't require much more to bring these two the various places needed but I went ahead and incorporated much of this information on the photo's mediawiki page. Unfortunately the original contribution fixed the file name with Tehran in it and redoing that may require deleting and reloading the picture which is currently being used in several wikis. I put a note on the talk page and will try to bring it to someone's attention. Thanks for finding these details.--Smkolins (talk) 11:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The Azali Community of Tehran photograph

message: Well according to this  from Curandero101 we can get rid of almost all of this article because it doesn't mention Subh-i-Azal at all and goes on to state: "The actual number of Babis is very small: their geography is now limited to Uzbekistan." Apparently they are extinct in Iran. Seriously, this entry is useless. MARussellPESE 05:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Uzbekistan

message: A link was put in of E.G. Browne's A Travellers Narrative Written to Illustrate the Episode of the Bab in the bibliography. Why has this item been removed?Thamarih 13:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: E.G. Browne's A Travellers Narrative Written to Illustrate the Episode of the Bab

message: I have tagged this article disputing its neutrality Thamarih 12:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The neutrality of this whole article is disputed 

message: I've struck the  tag, and the one on Báb. All of this article's sources are either the products of historians or direct personal accounts. All but one of the sources used in this article are non-Baha'i; and several are critical — even hostile to that religion.
The Baha'i editors have gone out of their way to avoid using Baha'i sources in this and other Babi & Azali articles. The accusation thtat his is a Baha'i spin-job just doesn't carry water. MARussellPESE 19:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Bahai editors - who are all sock-puppets of the Bahai administration and whose bias is well known - have shoved down their spin and propaganda on these articles. Thamarih 02:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the tags here and on the Bab are based more on personal accusation than meaningful contributions, I removed them. If Thamarih can at least articulate concerns that don't involve wild and belligerent accusations, then I'll leave the tags and discuss the issues. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 14:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but your statements just don't pass water.  Virtually all the sources are from MacEoin and others who are critical of the Baha'i religion.  Please provide specific concerns. Regards, -- Jeff3000 03:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki>{{npov}}</nowiki> Tag