Talk:Westminster Abbey

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message: This is mostly a note-to-self about stuff that I'd like to get round to adding or fleshing out, but if anyone else wants to take any of it up, be my guest. Some of these have main articles already, but I think still deserve more of a mention here, if only a brief one. In no particular order:
*UNESCO World Heritage status- DONE
*The Unknown Soldier's funeral and grave- DONE
*Scientists' Corner- DONE
*Cosmati Pavement- DONE
*Side chapels- DONE
*Architecture of Henry VII Chapel- DONE
*Order of the Bath- DONE
*Poets' Corner- DONE
*Coronation Chair- DONE
*Architecture of the exterior- DONE
*Architecture of the interior: transepts, quire, sanctuary, ambulatories, nave, cloisters, precincts- DONE
*Stained glass, esp. the Queen's Window- DONE
*Queen's Diamond Jubilee Galleries- DONE
*Medieval wall paintings- DONE
*In popular culture- e.g. The Da Vinci Code, John Betjeman poems, etc- DONE
*The medieval monks- DONE
*Recent archaeological finds- DONE
*Chapter house murals- DONE
*Blitz damage- the citation for this is pretty weak atm, and I'd like to find a better one and re-write this section. Hopefully I'll get access to the British Newspaper Archive soon for this- DONE
It's a lot! But it's all stuff I think the article needs to be comprehensive. Apparently this article is C-class at the moment, and I think as a UNESCO World Heritage site, the Abbey deserves better. Thank God the "burials and memorials" section is its own article, else we'd never finish. JRennocks (talk) 19:31, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey! I was just wondering if you had any thought as to perhaps an expansion on material regarding the worship/liturgical practices at Westminster since the Reformation? If you think there's enough detail already, I'll defer to your judgement, but I was thinking of trying to pull together maybe four or five sentences interspersed throughout the article to add a bit more to that context. I have a ton of material on Anglican liturgy and I'm certain I can find some additional details. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, good thinking! I guess we don't want to do anything that's common among all Anglican churches, because I'm sure there's an article on Anglican liturgy already. I think our closest model among featured articles is probably Wells Cathedral, which has a section on ministry, if that's close to what you're thinking of? I think anything about what services they run would be out of date before you press "publish", though. JRennocks (talk) 22:26, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I missed this reply; excellent idea on using the Wells article as inspiration. I concur on the need for specifically Westminster practice. Interestingly, there's a separate need for an Anglican liturgy article (consider this a note to self on that). I'll try to check in with you sometime this week once I've seen to a few of my offline duties. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:20, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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message: Hello all- have just added an external link to SmartHistory's excellent video on the architecture of the Henry VII Chapel. Honestly, I was going to use it as a source anyway, but I saw that the featured article on Wells Cathedral links to a SmartHistory video directly, so I've followed that model. I know that external links to videos are contentious, but I hope my reasoning here is sound.  JRennocks (talk) 18:12, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  External video link 

message: The infobox for the church appears to be displayed in an extended format in the article. It may be necessary to seek input from experts in the field to address this issue. Sarah SchneiderCH (talk) 21:34, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the duplicate map. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 06:48, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: I copy edited (part of) this article as it was requested by  at WP:GOCE/R. First, thank you for your patience! As I can't commit to finishing this copy edit in a reasonable timeframe, I've asked another GOCE member to step in—I am sure they will do a great job.
When undertaking requests, I usually keep a running log of notes. These notes are mostly questions that arose, or edits I did not feel I should make myself. Of course, this is just my opinion—feel free to take it or leave it. Please feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns.
=== Line edits ===
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** clunky, rephrase
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** what town? what is an "enfranchising charter"? also, reword as two sentences if possible
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** £sd is not familiar to many readers. Omit (e.g. "about £29,345") or add an explanatory footnote.
* :File:Westminster Abbey - Plan showing relative positions of the church of Edward the Confessor and of the existing church 1910.jpg
** Note that this map may not be color-blind accessible. (See MOS:COLOR for accessibility notes, and Toptal for a simulation.) More robust alt-text and caption would be helpful. A more extreme measure would be to recreate this map as an svg with more accessible coloring (or request this at WP:GL/I).
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** replace "his" with the person's name (I think it's Richard II but am not sure)
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** Which pope? Source doesn't specify as far as I can tell (it also doesn't explicitly back up "a large sum of money" AFAICT)
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** Clarify "their"
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** Split into two sentences after "bishop" (unsure if these events happened simultaneously or subsequently, so I didn't do it myself)
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** am I supposed to know what the First Company is?
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** possibly link Dean and Chapter on first mention (term was unfamiliar to me)
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** Possibly trim a bit (while a fun fact, is the quote necessary?). If possible, provide date of re-interrment.
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** the perpetrator should be introduced in the first or second sentence of this bit
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** after "and" I don't really understand this sentence
=== General notes ===
* Image formatting (via ) is problematic. See MOS:IMGSIZE, WP:GALLERY, WP:IMAGESIZE, and template documentation. Unless there is a strong reason for grouping the images, insert them individually. I don't see any strong cases besides maybe . The multiple image template simply isn't compatible with many browser sizes and is generally unnecessary in its usage. I recommend reformatting.
* Pay mind to MOS:DATED (avoid "to this day", "today", etc.)
* I linked some terms that were already linked in the lead; this is on purpose (MOS:REPEATLINK). I think it makes sense to re-link with each section as relevant, but not more than that.
Again, thank you! 
Wracking talk! 08:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy editing notes 

message: * Image formatting (via ) is problematic. See MOS:IMGSIZE, WP:GALLERY, WP:IMAGESIZE, and template documentation. Unless there is a strong reason for grouping the images, insert them individually. I don't see any strong cases besides maybe . The multiple image template simply isn't compatible with many browser sizes and is generally unnecessary in its usage. I recommend reformatting.
* Pay mind to MOS:DATED (avoid "to this day", "today", etc.)
* I linked some terms that were already linked in the lead; this is on purpose (MOS:REPEATLINK). I think it makes sense to re-link with each section as relevant, but not more than that.
Again, thank you! 
Wracking talk! 08:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  General notes