Talk:Taurus (constellation)

message: What galaxy is Taurus in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiwaxia (talk • contribs) 01:31, 4 September 2005
:Taurus is an asterism and therefore doesn't live in a galaxy as such. However, most of the components of the constellation are close enough to be in the Milky Way  Ian Cairns 01:47, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The preferred link is now asterism (asterism) as asterism points to a disambig page. Paddles 14:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What?? Taurus is not an asterism, and it's in Milky Way, generally, of course!? Said: Rursus 20:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Location

message: I deleted the following section as garbage. Maybe someone can salvage something?
:Value of Taurus in Language
:In the 2005 edition of Sky Publishing's annual sky calendar and almanac, there was a sizable article devoted to multiple aspects of the Europa/Taurus myth and its applications to astronomy. In this article the author states that Taurus was the origin of the Phoenician letter aleph, from which descended the initial letter of other semitic alphabets. Aleph, in Phoenician, represents an ox, and does, indeed, have a shape not dissimilar to that of the constellation Taurus. The Greek letter alpha is also derived from aleph, but rotates the symbol so it opens downward. If this is the case, then Taurus is unique as the only constellation that is also a letter.
:In a much earlier publication, the Planetarian's Guide to Greek Constellations, Paul M. Bryant says instead that Taurus was represented in Egypt with a "T" shaped hieroglyph, and that this became the Greek letter Tau.
It's nonsensical to say that a constellation is the origin of a letter. Perhaps a hieroglyph representing Taurus was the origin of the letter, but without any reason to believe that's the case, this doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. kwami 10:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the concept of connecting taurus to aleph is simply too loony! OK, there is a connection: those inventing aleph, sometimes saw bulls - those inventing the constellation taurus, sometimes saw bulls. But that's the real raisin, and it's kind of trivial and nonsential. Rursus 20:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It is commonly believed, though by no means yet demonstrated, that the letter ’alp A was derived from a hieroglyph (glyph F1 F1) representing a bull's head. However, this may be the first letter because the bull was important to pastoral Semitic peoples, not because Taurus was. Or it may be due to some ABC rhyme used to memorize the alphabet. It certainly makes sense that the first zodiacal sign of the year could be the first letter of the alphabet, but no matter which letter were first, people would imagine some reason why it was so priveledged. If it were the letter hillul E, which means 'jubilation', people would argue this was a forerunner of Semitic monotheism; if it were šimš S, which meant 'sun', people would argue it reflected Egyptian sun worship. Etc etc etc. Besides, in the constellation Taurus the bull has his head lowered so that his horns point forward; in the oldest alphabetic inscriptions from Wadi el-Ħôl, the head is level and the horns point back. As for the sound values, recent reconstructions don't have any of the letters taking their values from Egyptian. They were all given Semitic names. For example, kapp K is supposed to come from the hieroglyph for 'hand', which in Egyptian was d or drt. So the fact that Egyptian F1 didn't represent a glottal stop is meaningless. I think that an editorial in Sky and Telescope may be worth a brief mention as fun speculation, but we shouldn't give the impression that there is any good reason to believe it. kwami 10:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: Someone proposed a move based upon the assumption everything else on the taurus page was named from the constellation. However I would like to see move evidence for this. For example:
:Taurus Mountains, located in northern Syria/southern Turkey 
We can assume the name arose from the Turkish toros. However whether the word Taurus was used because of the use of Taurus for the constellation in English or perhaps from taurus from Latin is not particular clear. Even if the name was chosed because of the use of the word Taurus for the constellation, the mountains surely have just as much right to the name as the constellation as it originated from the Turkish word whyever that particular word was chosen.
:Bos taurus, a species of cattle
Perhaps the constellation had something to do with it but it's just as likely (in fact more so IMHO) that it was used largely indepedently from latin
:Montes Taurus, a Lunar mountain range. 
Since this name was chosen from the above mountain range, the same arguments apply.
In conclusion, I don't see any real evidence that the constellation should somehow be considered as the true 'owner' of the name Nil Einne 11:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No solid motivation, moved disambiog page back to original page, so that the old situation has been restored. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 02:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Taurus Mountains and cattle and the Roman figures are certainly just separate derivations from Latin (not Turkish, which is transliterating the Latin name). That has no bearing on "ownership". This page should be moved to Taurus because (apart from the now-discontinued car) this is the  that most people are looking for when they look for "Taurus". — LlywelynII 02:26, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: ω² 50 Omega-2 Tauri 4.93 291 in English one (291 distance in light year), and:
ω2 Tau 4,93 2,64 94 A3m (94 is distance in light year) in french one. How is it possible? are diferent measures? measures not homogeneus? error? Pérez 04:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this is fixed now; i think the english one was wrong. Mlm42 21:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: discrepancy:English wiki ''versus'' Français wiki

message: I didn't propose the merge, but I agree with it. This article should be merged here, or, at least, someone with some knowledge should deal with it. Also, the article contradicts the title. Thanks! J Milburn 18:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Shur]]

message: I removed the following unsourced statement from the paragraph on Greek mythology because I could find nothing to confirm it:
: The tale informs the names of constellations since it is necessary to traverse the area of sky known as the Sea to reach it.
—RJH (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced statement 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Sidney Hall - Urania's Mirror - Taurus.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on May 21, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2016-05-21. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:20, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Sidney Hall - Urania's Mirror - Taurus.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: The name of Taurus mountains comes from semitic root for mountain (Tura). Is it a coincidence that now both are written Taurus? Aminabzz (talk) 17:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coincidence?