Talk:Yoruichi Shihōin

message: Well, I was bored, and wrote another article. Please don't move it to Shihōin Yoruichi because I'm pretty sure the U in the name is pronounced clearly. Although maybe a redirect would do. Also, if anyone can verify all the data on this page and re-word some of the sentences that sound unprofessional, it would be greatly appreciated (although I'm pretty sure all the data is correct). -- Ynhockey 09:14, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Shihōin

message: Should it be mentioned in the article that Yoruichi tends to speak in a very unusual manner for a female character?  Specifically, the way she talks in the Japanese version makes her sound like an old man, and in fact she teases Ichigo about this when she first reveals her human form to him, asking if he thought she was a man from the way she talks.  As far as I've seen, female characters using that sort of speach is extremely unusual in manga/anime, so it might be worth noting as one of her character traits...  --ACDragonMaster 08:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoruichi's speech patterns 

message: Even if there's not much to say, maybe her appearence to save Ichigo, her "battle" with Yammy and her broken arm are worth mentioning. Lord Air 04:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrancar arc?  

message: I have restored the old image of Yoruichi for the top of the page, on the base of higher quality and lighting. Please raise any objections here. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 11:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. Thank goodness. Cheers for clarity. =] Sephiroth BCR 01:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Theres a statement that Yoruichi's shunko technique that I'm not sure of which I found.It is under Abilities and Items.The statement is"Her flash cry abilities are strong enough to hurt or severly damage Ichigo Kurosaki."When did she use it on Ichigo???--Hanaichi 14:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shunko 

message: So, why don't we know why she is referred to as "Mr. Yoruichi"? Viz says it's because of the way she sounds, and fanlation says it's because of the way she talks. Her voice seems to be the root of it. ~SnapperTo 22:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is why dubbing gets into trouble. These early episodes have a lot of gender confusion, which is much easier to deal with in a language with few gender-specific pronouns. Her being mistaken for a man is already mentioned, so the "Mr." thing is a formality. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So it is. Perhaps I should have read all of the cat paragraph before assuming the gender confusion went unmentioned. Apologies. ~SnapperTo 23:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, I would like to know where Urahara said "Mr. Yoruichi", though. That seems a printworthy mistake. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Viz's chapter 51 (and maybe others, but I can't think of other times they've been together). Urahara seems weird enough for that to be intentionally wrong. ~SnapperTo 00:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: You do know they don't realize they're in a manga or anime series, don't you? He knew Yoruichi's a girl, but strangely enough called her 'mister' anyway. // DecaimientoPoético 16:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

text: That is exactly the case; she is called Yoruichi-san in Japanese. However, I still find Urahara calling her Mr. Yoruichi to be perfectly ordinary given his odd personality. ~SnapperTo 20:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mister Mister 

message: Just to clarify, when was it said Kisuke Urahara developed the bankai doll?From Viz manga Volume 15, Chapter 127, Beginning of the death of tomorrow, a very dense Ichigo asks "whats with the goofy looking doll?" to Yoruichi. She says its "Tenshintai, a divine transfer body" and "its a vital spiritual tool of the secret police." I think Urahara was the first one who mastered Bankai using that method, because I don't recall Yoruichi saying "Kisuke developed the method".--Hanaichi 06:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She says: Kisuke tested it on himself. Key word: tested. It's his invention. If it were something in common use, bankai would be a hell of a lot more common. See episode 48 for the specifics. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 08:24, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how much more common bankai would be, given that the doll is supposed to be rather dangerous to use. If a shinigami's not already on the verge of bankai-level power, they're liable to kill themselves by attempting it. 71.203.209.0 20:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Chapter 132 page 17 says that Kisuke first tested the device on himself, and a mangarain scanlation I have translates it as if he also invented it (might be a finer point of the Japanese language I don't understand which implies he also invented it?) In any case, at least we can be sure that no one used this before Urahara, even if he did not invent it. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 09:21, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bankai Training Doll 

message: Why is she categorized in the werecat one? I thought she was a shapeshifter and can change into anything. If there a source confirming that she is a werecat? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: werecat? what is a werecat? But i really don't see why she is classifided as one.Ultimaterasengan 22:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a source saying she can turn into anything? Werecat is defined as someone who can shapeshift into a feline form, which Yoruichi is able to do. ~SnapperTo 22:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If we go by that logic, should we assume that Yoruichi is a werecat? Isn't there a source verifying it? The Bleach books perhaps. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are as many sources saying she's a werecat as there are sources saying Shinigami can fly (none). The concept is the same, so that's good enough for these completely irrelevant categories. ~SnapperTo 01:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Its animagus. this is all ignoring what she said in the anime when asked how she turned into a cat by Ichigo she replied "i put on a cat costume." Given the weird artifacts she has shown the Shihoin family to have (including one made to destroy the Soul Reaper's main tool of execution...) its safe to say she may just have a artifact that changes her into a cat rather than this being an innate ability.--Licourtrix (talk) 09:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Werecat? 

message: In the 14th voulme of Bleach on the 25th page, 4th panal, you can planiy see a zanpakuto in hte background, is it Yoruichi's?Ultimaterasengan 00:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Zanpakuto in 14th voulme

message: Its sorta new news but she can use an abilty called Utsesmi(spell check). Byakuya in the manga mentions how he didnt wanna use that move from that woman. It allows the enemy to strike at them thinking that they hit them but in reality it was a shadow image sorta say. If you guys can remember Yoruichi used this move on Byakuya when she was carrying Ichigo :P. She also has this abilty in the video game Bleach Blade Battlers 2nd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fate216 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oooo interesting, although it was never stated that Yoruichi used that technique. I suppose we could add a sentence like "During a brief fight with Byakuya, Yoruichi used a technique quite similar to utsusemi, creating an image of her being injured while she actually wasn't."--Hanaichi 01:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  An ability left out 

message: This article is rife with grammatical errors; ambiguity of tenses, syntax, etc.  Revisions need to be made.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvs117 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then fix it. --Farix (Talk) 22:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar

message: I have changed the article since I agree that till Tite Kubo announces it or Yoruichi states it that we should not put it in the article. We cannot just assume since in the sword she is shown with could just be that a sword. But since we have no liable proof besides logic that she does or doesn't have a zanpaktou we should not put it in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.183.83 (talk) 01:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well... -shrug- I'm not really into this topic, so I won't do anything about anything you changed. But well, a shinigami would rather carry their own sword as opposed to *random katana x*, I s'pose. Oh, and only zanpakuto purify hollows, right? -pokes anime flashback w/ Soifon- IceUnshattered (talk) 22:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Zanpaktou

message: (Background: this was merged without discussion in 2008). As I was to AfD a version of this article I found on pl wiki, BEFORE did give me a single good source, an academic analysis of the character: , IA mirror. I see a paragraph of in-depth analysis on p. 94  and a bit less but still non trivial on p. 91 . I can summarize this, but it is still just one source, and GNG  requires multiple. Can anyone find anything else? Ping User:Daranios, User:Jclemens, User:Cunard, User:ReaderofthePack, User:VickKiang.  I'll mention that there are of course some mentions in anime-themed fan/news sites, but what I see is really the "bottom of the barrel" stuff, which these days might as well be AI-generated clickbait ("10 Bleach characters with best hairstyles", etc) .  I did dig up one media source that seems decent, from Gamerant. Think we have enough to restore this?- -Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:46, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused... this is currently redirected on en.wiki, but you're looking for help with sources to see if pt.wiki can be kept as a standalone article? Is that right? Jclemens (talk) 15:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , thank you for the ping. I found this source about the subject:The article notes: "At first, it's easy to think that Yoruichi is self-centered and hedonistic and that she would just want to save her own skin when disaster strikes. But the Turn Back the Pendulum mini-arc made it clear that Yoruichi cared nothing for wealth and status. She cared about doing the right thing, at any cost. ... Yoruichi isn't in it for fame or glory; she's here to make sure that justice is served, no matter what."My reading of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 379#Is Comic Book Resources a reliable source? is that Comic Book Resources is a marginally reliable source. With the sources you found, I think there is enough to restore Yoruichi Shihōin as a standalone article. Cunard (talk) 01:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

text: @Jclemens I'd like to restore this a a proper article on en wiki. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objections, but I'm not particularly a Bleach expert--just watched through the Anime once (well, except I haven't started TYBW yet). Jclemens (talk) 05:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: The article is inconsistent; sometimes Soifon, sometimes Suì Fēng. It'd definitely not the latter per MOS:PINYIN, so do the series mostly call her Soifon or Sui Feng? I have vague memories of Viz calling her Soifon but that this was changed by editorial fiat. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 16:22, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soifon or Sui Feng?