Talk:East Side Access

message: What is the status of putting a statio on Roosevelt Island? —Preceding unsigned comment added by InGearX (talk • contribs) 1:43, 20 June 2006
:I wasn't aware that that was even an option for this project. Can you provide a source? — Larry V (talk) 03:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: East Side Access doesn't include a station on Roosevelt Island.  You may be thinking of Roosevelt Island (IND 63rd Street Line station), which is on the upper level (New York City Subway) tracks of the 63rd St Tunnel.  East Side Access will use the 63rd Street Tunnel, but only the lower level tracks set aside for LIRR use.  I don't think there's any physical accomodation for a station on the lower level tracks.  --CComMack 06:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm almost 100% sure that there is no plan for a station. Let's be honest here: How useful would an LIRR station on Roosevelt Island be? — Larry V (talk) 21:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Roosevelt Island?

message: I removed this from there as too much detail, and pasted it here in case it's useful in this article. --NE2 23:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from [[Long Island Rail Road]]

message: Will the new platforms be beneath both existing GCT levels, or beside one or the other?  Jim.henderson 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How deep?

message: Isn't this photo more likely to be the final view of the "cavern" photo now used in this article?
http://www.mta.info/capconstr/esas/images/gallery/images/upperplatform_jpg.jpg user:mnw2000 14:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cavern construction photo 

message: I drew an quick overview map based on info at the MTA website. Reqdiagram tag removed. Egmason (talk) 09:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Diagram Added

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message: I removed the  tag that you placed on top of the article with the comment . While the MTA does say that the regional context of the project reaches back to the 1950s, it specifically mentions that this date was for regional transportation planning, not the East Side project itself. There were plans to bring the LIRR to Manhattan such as this 1954 plan to build a tunnel for the LIRR under 76th Street. However, this is not the same as the scope of this project.
The LIRR tunnel to Manhattan under 63rd Street was proposed in 1963. There is a source for that in the body. epicgenius (talk) 21:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not trying to be a pain here, but I don't understand your reluctance to provide a source for that statement.  If you know of a specific source, rather than edit-warring with me about it, wouldn't it be simpler to just cite the source at the place requested?  It would certainly be more useful  -- RoySmith (talk) 21:48, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm adding it right now. But the point is that the cited source that you described in the "citation needed" tag doesn't actually contradict the text in the article. The plan for the LIRR tunnel does date back to 1963, but before that, it was a subway tunnel that dated to circa 1954. So I guess we should agree that we are both wrong in this scenario. I should've added the source first before removing citation needed. epicgenius (talk) 21:50, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added the source. Now the article mentions the reality of the scenario. The LIRR tunnel plan was actually based on a subway tunnel first proposed in the 1950s. The LIRR terminal itself, however, did not get proposed until 1963. Does this version of the article look good? epicgenius (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I realize that the source I found wasn't the strongest, which is why I just tagged it with a notice. I was a little surprised when you deleted the tag without any explanation other than, "I say it's wrong". I was substantially more surprised when you deleted it the second time. If you had just put in your edit comment something like, "I'm working on finding a good source", I would have been happy. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:00, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that was my mistake as well. I should have made the second edit where I put in the source, and not the reversion first. However, I wasn't sure how to draw your attention to this talk page thread. Hopefully this will be a lesson for us to learn from later. epicgenius (talk) 22:07, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything worked out, don't worry about it.  Thanks for finding the source.  -- RoySmith (talk) 22:34, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planning 

message: The article states , but won't getting to the Financial District still require a subway transfer given that it's in Lower Manhattan, quite far from the terminal under Grand Central? Rublov (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: After I made my edit I saw that it reverted your previous edit. I see what you mean about the 4/5/6 but I don't think the connection, as stated, is clear enough, and for readers who aren't familiar with NYC geography it's too easy to get the impression that the Financial District is a part of Midtown. It could be changed to , but that may be too wordy for the lead. Leaving out FiDi and just saying  could work. What do you think? Rublov (talk) 19:50, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggestion works for me. I was just thinking that it would be inaccurate to just say East Midtown, hence my revert. – Epicgenius (talk) 20:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Financial District? 

message: The MTA released draft timetables for the new service pattern once ESA is complete about two weeks ago, and there has been mixed reception in the local media:    , along with several blogs, though those are probably unsuitable as references. I was thinking of summarizing the proposed service changes (even though there will likely be additional changes before December 2022) and their reception, though I'm unsure whether details of this would fall under "proposed service patterns" or "controversies". ComplexRational (talk) 16:13, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New timetables and mixed opinions 

message: A collaboration was mentioned during two recent WMNYC meetings (as a sort of extended monthly collaboration) to possibly get this article to FA status and subsequently TFA in time for the project's completion in December. Recently, I've done a bit of copyediting and updated some information, though I'm not the main author and haven't previously done an FA on this subject matter. As discussed during those meetings, I'm opening a thread here to discuss general improvements and readiness for FAC.
Pinging the main author  and those who said that they were interested, . Of course, feedback from others is most certainly welcome as well. ComplexRational (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot to reply earlier, but I will be fine with this. If other editors agree, then perhaps we can spend the next month or two preparing this for FAC. Given that an FAC typically takes up to two months, we'll want to have this done by the end of October, to give a month for TFA preparation. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good plan; in any case, now's the best time for me to do more substantial content and preparation work. ComplexRational (talk) 23:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

text: Pinging also  – would an FAC plan like this interest you? ComplexRational (talk) 02:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I am not an FA-regular, don't many people not support GAs and FAs over stability concerns, and knowledge that much will change in the very near future? ɱ (talk) 02:19, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA push for the grand opening? 

message: Suggest putting Sunnyside station in italics as this appears to be the format for as-yet-unopened/planned stations.
I would do it myself, though I do not know how. Nobody25 (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunnyside 

message: The first train has arrived (via MTA Twitter). “Planned opening” should be changed to “Opened.” 130.184.252.79 (talk) 16:46, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  It has officially opened