Talk:Min Chinese

message: The Min language articles for some reason all capitalize the word "Language". I therefore moved them. I chose to follow Min Bei and move them to Min Nan, etc., but it would be just as appropriate to move them to Northern Min, Southern Min, etc. I leave that to further discussion, but many of the existing titles violated the MOS. kwami (talk) 21:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Min languages 

message: The Chinese version of this article only refers to "Gu Hanyu" which is a general archaic version of modern Han Chinese.  I have it on good authority from native professors that the Chinese make no distinction known as "Middle Chinese" or "Old Chinese".  Nor was it specified  to my knowledge in the original article at the time that Minyu is affected by both individually.  If someone who is an expert on the subject could explain this to me I'd be much obliged.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledge Incarnate (talk • contribs) 00:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Chinese 

message: I added a history section.
I deleted a part stating it's hard to find characters for Min because it's not directly descended from Middle Chinese.
Chinese characters are not invented or solely associated with Middle Chinese. The characters were well established as in oracle bones, Shi Jing and Chu Ci which are all Old Chinese or Old Old Chinese. So not being Middle Chinese descendant is not a reason why it is hard to find corresponding characters.
This is why I added history section to clear things.--Tricia Takanawa (talk) 23:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Part 

message: The other articles about varieties of Chinese (Wu Chinese, Huizhou Chinese, Gan Chinese, etc.) list the number of native speakers in the infobox. It would be great to do that in this article too, if anyone has access to a source that lists the number of native Min speakers. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:08, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of native speakers 

message: The 'Southern' category should be renamed as 'Greater Minnan' instead of 'Southern' which also means 'Minnan'.
It includes those Minnan languages such as Puxian and Hainanese that originated from Minnan but diverged significantly that it became largely unintelligible with classical Minnan ie. Hokkien. Teochew is still partly intelligible with other Hokkien dialects.
Min Dong should be renamed as 'Min Dong Bei' because Minnan is also on the East Side so the two are quite confusing.  
60.48.48.233 (talk) 17:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We follow the conventions of the English-language literature on the subject, rather than inventing our own.  Kanguole 17:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

text: The most commonly seen grouping is that of Li Rong, as used in the Language Atlas of China: Minnan, Puxian, Mindong, Minbei, Minzhong, Qiongwen, Shaojiang and Leizhou.  Minnan, Mindong, Minbei and Minzhong are usually rendered in English as Southern Min, Eastern Min, Northern Min and Central Min.  The terms correspond directly to the Chinese originals, with no loss of precision.  It is not for us to come up with more "proper" names.  Kanguole 00:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

text: Sadly Li Rong is no longer alive, but he was one of the most distinguished linguists of modern China, and certainly much more reliable than Baidu Baike or Wikipedia.  Kanguole 14:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

text: The tree, unlike the text above it, is completely uncited, and doesn't seem to reflect a standard classification.  It should be deleted.  Kanguole 01:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

text: It is not information but rather personal opinion, unsupported by reliable sources.  I also see that you've been imposing the same non-standard classification on other articles, which is inappropriate.  Kanguole 14:20, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grouping