Talk:Counting sheep

message: It has also been whimsically suggested that the phrase originates from a Hebrew pun on the Latin phrase "sopor sond" (literally, sleep deeply/soundly). The Hebrew pun is ספור צאן (sopwor tsoan), an imperative that means "count sheep!".
I'm truly curious how this idea arose.  It sounds clever if you don't know Latin, but is almost certainly nonsense.  For one thing, sopor is a noun meaning "deep sleep", not a verb meaning "to sleep."  More importantly, as far as I know, *sond doesn't mean anything in Latin.  I'm not a classical scholar, so it's possible I'm wrong and there is some obscure basis for this, but I can say with certainty that sond (a) isn't in any Latin dictionary I own, (b) doesn't even look like it could be a Latin word, and in any case (c) isn't in a morphological form that would be either an adjective modifying the noun sopor, or an adverb meaning "deeply" as suggested by the translation.  Note that sound as in the English phrase "sleep soundly" is from a Germanic root -- cf. German gesund, "healthy" -- and has nothing to do with e.g. Latin sonus, "a sound (audible)".
If one googles "sopor sond," one finds that this idea seems to have been put forth over and over in Web forums and on Usenet, always by the same person, one Israel "Izzy" Cohen, and represented as his own finding.  I find little evidence that it has ever been taken seriously, although I haven't done an offline search.  Note also that the "sopor sond" bit was added to this article by an anonymous contributor 212.150.128.5 and was originally worded as follows:
Israel "izzy" Cohen thinks the phrase "Count sheep!" (to go to sleep) is the translation of a Hebrew pun on the Latin phrase "sopor sond", literally, sleep deeply/soundly. The Hebrew pun (transliteration) is samekh-peh-vav(oh)-resh tzadi-aleph-nun S'PoR tSo@N, an imperative that means "count sheep!".
One suspects that 212.150.128.5 and Israel Cohen are one and the same (the same IP address has also contributed a similar "Izzy Cohen" etymology to Hair of the dog, which was subsequently removed by another contributor).  
I've already modified the "sopor sond" etymology in the present article to make it clear that it's unlikely to be true.  I guess my question for other contributors is: should we simply remove it altogether, or at least mark it more definitively as spurious?  It hardly seems worth even dignifying with the notation "folk etymology" when not even "the folk", but one person in particular, is responsible for it... Kiscica 18:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
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