Talk:Gmail/Archive 2

message: Gmail is the first major provider to sign outgoing mails with Yahoo!'s DomainKeys signatures.
So does that mean that Gmail beat Yahoo in using these DomainKeys, or should after Yahoo! themselves be added to the sentence?--Lucky13pjn 02:06, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
:I don't think Yahoo is using them, also, I don't think it's been confirmed (officially) that Gmail is using them, but I could be wrong. Dori | Talk 02:07, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
::I believe GMail is using them since I see DomainKeys headers in email I receive from Gmail accountsNikita Borisov 21:45, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  DomainKeys 

message: I, and a lot of other GMail users on the Gamefaqs message boards just got uped to 50 invites!
I'm going to post 10 on my user page, and it's first come, first serve!
:There's speculation that this means they're almost ready to go public; the Google results are illuminating. —Charles P. (Mirv) 09:27, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Up to 50 Invites?!?! 

message: Is it worth while listing competitors who offer large mailboxes? Is there any major competitors who still offer < (say) 20mb?--Will2k 04:53, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
:Mentioning this again so I can catch anyone who may have missed the above before. I will assume that no response implies the section is set to be drastically reduced.--Will2k 05:01, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, there are: Hotmail. I can hear you saying "but Hotmail offers its members 250MB". Well, it may offer some of its members (an elite few, I would say) those 250MB, but most of us still have the initial 2MB. So I think it does count as a major competitor without a large mailbox. --Fibonacci 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big mailbox trends 

message: Has this obvious scam attempt turned up anywhere else? (I've already notified gmail-abuse@google.com about it, so I imagine the account will be shut down soon.) If so, maybe we ought to report it in the article. —Charles P. (Mirv) 03:31, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  scam attempt 

message: does anyone think that Google will never really make Gmail "public" but spreading it on the invite basis, so that no bogus spam accounts are created, everyone will invite more people, who will in turn invite more, and so on. Wikipedian231 13:08, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How will that stop spam accounts? Right now, I can give myself 50 additional addresses, and then 50 more apiece from each of those. Yes, it's traceable, but suddenly, I've got an unlimited number of email accounts all for myself. TimothyPilgrim 17:32, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
How long has it been since Gmail went "BETA" anyway? Mfarquhar 06:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Going public 

message: What up with this sentence? While this is still the case, most Gmail users have multiple invites to spare, as Google has lately been giving quite a few of these out. Invites can be obtained at. I don't really know what's supposed to be after the cutoff, otherwise I would fix it. Someone who knows please do Preisler 18:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete sentence 

message: Greetings:
 
Where can I find statistics pertaining to the number of users currently on gmail network?
142.106.62.76 19:06, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many users on gmail 

message: I moved most of the "competition" section to the Webmail article. be bold and all that.
--DavidCary 14:22, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  competition 

message: The majority of email services support the plussed-user plus-sign addressing technique.
So rather than discuss it only in the Gmail article
(or worse, re-hash the discussion in the article for each email service provider),
could we make a separate article for it ?
What would be a good name for the article ? I imagine we'll have several redirects, since I've seen it called variously:
* "Plus-Addressing"
* "plus sign technique" ( http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SpamMail )
* "plussed user" ( http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/24/22222/2368 )
--DavidCary 14:22, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  plus (+) 

message: ::Gmail also supports "plus-addressing" of emails.  Messages can be sent to addresses in the form: gmail.user+extratext@gmail.com where extratext can be any string. (...) Plus-addressing even works when sending email from a Gmail account to itself.
Does that work for every one here? I have tried it, and does not work properly - I sent a message to myself using plus-addressing (with a two-letter extratext, by the way), and it did not arrive until I sent another message to myself without plus-addressing. I sent then another message to the first address (+extratext), about half an hour ago, and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. Does anyone else have this problem? --Fibonacci 23:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Fib and Ross, from what I've read, plus addressing is problematic when sending to yourself (your gmail address to the same one but with plus addressing). Try using plus-addressing from a different address and see what happens.--Will2k 04:07, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
...in fact, sending emails to your gmail account from your gmail address (even using a software (and not web) email client) is a problematic issue. The emails will be in the "sent" box, but not appear in the inbox at all. Don't know yet whether I think that's a bug or a feature... --Krueschan 13:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I can send emails to my own account without a single problem, and they do appear on the inbox - that is, except when I use plus-addressing. --Fibonacci 00:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plus-addressing 

message: This is just a relatively unscientific tally to see approximately what percentage of people have got 50 Gmail invites to give or no Gmail invites to give (see the section above). Put a "1" down if you have started with 50 invites next to "50 Invites" and put "1" next to "No Invites" if you have no invites to give. I have 3 Gmail accounts, 2 with 50 invites, 1 with no invites; they are marked below. If you got 50 invites, but used some or even all of them up, you still put a "1" next to "50 Invites". If you do not have a Gmail account, do not mark anything - here's how to get one one, follow this link. -Hyad 03:50, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
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*50 Invites:XRR11
*No Invites:11X
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Notes: 
*If you start off with no invites and then get randomly selected to give 50 invites and already put a "1" down next to "No Invites" - erase your "1" next to "No Invites" and put an "X" in it's place; then put a "1" next to "50 Invites".
*If you know you started off with no invites and then got randomly selected to give 50 invites and haven't put anything down so far, put an "X" next to "No Invites" and and "1" next to "50 Invites". It's just like above, except you aren't erasing anything.
*If your account was refilled back to 50 invites, in addition to the initial "1" next to "50 Invites", add the letter "R" next to the "50 Invites" for each time your account was refilled.
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I started my Gmail account on May 13, 2005 with no invites and got 50 invites on May 28, 2005.  Furthermore, I got a refill in early- or mid-July 2005.  How many days did other people wait before they got 50 invites?  - Mhwu 06:08, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
:I used 7  of my 50 invites on July 15, 2005. I noticed them refilled on July 23, 2005. So that's 8 days - pretty quick. By the way, the account I still don't have any invites in only has one email in the Inbox. Perhaps they give your invites or refill them based (in part) on how much you use your account. They said it's "random" - I'm not totally sure on that. -Hyad 07:00, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
::I got 100 invites and I have only used like 5 of them since I got it. Gmail is terribly slow recently and cannot be accessed using Thunderbird. Wonder is it that they need more bandwidth or something?--antilived 10:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  50 Invites or No Invites Tally 

message: Would be nice if someone could write something about the technique behind GMail, especially the RTF Editor, i've been searchin for hours for any information...
:You're probably looking for information on XMLHttpRequest, which Gmail uses heavily.  It allows you to implement much more complicated logic than normal javascript will allow with requiring form submission . --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it? Then, why the RTF Editor of MSN Groups (see for example: http://groups.msn.com/clubdelosfansdetails/_rte.msnw), which works so well with IE, does not work with any other browser? --Fibonacci 00:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technique behind GMAIL 

message: The screenshot has some weird font spacing and aliasing that I know doesn't happen on firefox on my mac.  Can we replace it with something that more accurately reflects the majority of the users' experience with Gmail's interface? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshot 

message: I want to talk about the changes I've being making to limitations.
I see that limitations section not only as a list of features lacking from a "beta" version that google is.
But also as a list of "to do" that hopefully someone inside Gmail Team can capture something from it.
Since it's a list made not only by 1 person but by a whole wikipedian group, I believe this is really relevant.
And specifically about what I've added and changed...
- The applying for all pages may look simple feature, but it's not. It actually would require a very complex way to solve it into a simple interface to keep gmail simple. Just try to imagine deeper on how this could affect. You won't be able to imagine if you haven't experienced some time of gmail using (or similar things).
- The termination dot (sorry for my lack of vocabulary) moving to before the comments in each item is just, as I've commented, to show that the comment isn't inside the phrase, but it's separated from it. Also, I know that people are using that dot instead of the dot-comma (;) to "proper format the list". But a list don't actually need this kind of formatting. You need to use that kind of thing just to:
A. show that you know deeper about it
B. indicate the end of the item, which is already indicated by the beginning of the next, except for the last item. 
So basically, it would only be really needed when there are big items, specially the last one, but them you use it for all of them to keep it standard.
Maybe I've should have removed all the dots, so it wouldn't look weird like it is looking right now... Or maybe someone should agree with me and do it instead. :P
- The problem with paging and doing anything (like applying or selecting) among more than 1 page (consider page as each group of records, be it e-mail, contacts, etc) is really complex. Just don't underestimate it, because it does looks like a ridiculous issue. I just wanted to add this comment, I'll explain this better later on, when I get the time.
--Cawas 15:20, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limitations 

message: I'm thinking on removing that "the ability" of every item and putting "it can't" or something that's more clear. Any one who can thinks logically would understand that is a least of lacking features, but it can get hard to understand if you miss the word absent there or if you're just not used to it (unlike me, in both cases). Of course, that would require to change the introducing phrase as well, and remove "are absent". I'd just rewrite another phrase with the same meaning.
And that way it can also give emphasize each item even more and leave it clear crystal that those features are not in g-mail. And then, hopefully, gmail team will build them up eventually! :)
I just hope someone can discuss at least this with me... I'm starting to feel alone in the dark. o_O
--Cawas 19:31, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: absent abilities

message: This is about my constant updates on the Gmail#Limitations section. I've being using it actually like it was a suggestion page because I do believe some people from Google's Gmail Team actually read this page and do whatever they can to help our community to grow up with gmail. I'm nor sure if this is a valid action, since this is not a request, or suggestions, page neither a gmail location... But I do feel this opening in here and all those small ideas coming up and I want to share them and let the developer team knows about them. Actually, as I'm a small programmer myself, I could even script those "updates", if we had an easy language / script. I could compare this idea to having something as programming languages are for making softwares just like wiki is an "HTTP tool" for making web site content. In fact, since I'm outdated about programming languages, I even believe we might have something similar already. I know Java was the first closest thing to this idea, about 7 years ago. Maybe Python or that new "something-Gears" (supposed to replace PHP) could be it. I know I'm just outdated.
Anyway, I wanted to let wikipedians know a little bit about "this whole thing" I'm doing here in wikipedia. It's a lot personal, but it's also "wikable". So I just hope nobody gets this the wrong way and rather than deleting my contributions could help me to focus all this "energy" in a better direction. I know I'm doing it in the wrong direction right now. I just hope it's not too far away from the correct one.
Thanks for your time!
--Cawas 18:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: wrong place for suggestions