Template talk:WikiProject Aviation

message: To do:
*Add varous options to specify what type of infobox needs to be added.
*Add option to say aircraft stats need to be updated to standards.
*Add military aviation task force
Was there a decision to not apply an importance scale to aviation articles?  Certainly it's a useful construct for other wikiprojects, but I don't see anything on it here.LeadSongDog 19:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Barely active would be a considerable understatement.  Happy‑melon 20:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: To do

message: In "scale]].{{#ifexist:{{" a space is required so that it is "scale]]. {{#ifexist:{{". Gary King (talk) 05:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space required 

message: C-class has been implemented in Wikipedia, but this particular template doesn't support it yet. (e.g. Talk:GMF AeroAsia) Could someone who actually can add to the code implement this? Thanks.=) --DA PIE EATER (talk) 00:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. The way I've incorporated it, If someone assess an article as C-class without completing the B-class checklist, it will still come up as start class. An article will be C-class if the checklist is complete and at least three of the five items are "yes". Again, if all 5 items are "yes" then it will still automatically assess it as B-class. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 22:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: C-class

message: Assessing an article as "B" or "C"-class will show as "Start"-class.
Use either one of these templates:


And both will show the same output as:

Gary King (talk) 18:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll need to use the B-class checklist. Martin 16:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I was told that after posting this, to which I replied that the template should at least display a warning that the checklist is incomplete. Gary King (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessing as "B" or "C"-class will show "Start"-class 

message: Just a suggestion, since there are so many nice photos out there for the aviation portal, could the standard icon in the portal link be updated to include a photo? Thanks. --Funandtrvl (talk) 06:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and we should use this:File:Wrightflyer thumb.jpg. I was gonna do it but its locked. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different image for portal icon, instead of standard one 

message: This template doesn't appear to be closing correctly, and it's making it look like other page content is part of the template when used.  See, for example, Talk:Hawaiian Airlines where both the WikiProject Hawaii template and the discussion items below all appear to be part of the template. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I think the problem was due to an edit on Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/collapsed, see , I think when you put back WPAVIATION to the way it was, that you should protect this hook template as well. -- WOSlinker (talk) 23:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Has you're reversion fixed it, WOSlinker? I ask because I wasn't online today and I saw no errors yesterday, and can't see any now. Can the banner be reverted back to the meta form? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 03:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the reversion of Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/collapsed fixed it. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Not sure if this is related, but the template is showing an error message with a comma in a category link.  For example see Talk:F/A-18_Hornet. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that and have reverted back to the version that does not show "Expression error: Unexpected < operator-" in big red letters. I have no idea how to fix the other problem. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 23:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the template now uses Template:WPBannerMeta, it's not a problem with the template itself, but one of the templates being used in it. I'll try to track it down. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 05:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a small bug which has now been fixed. I must say that I question the wisdom of reverting the banner (and therefore affecting thousands of pages) because of an error message which occured on just one page. It does seem a little like using a sledgehammer to break a nut. Anyway, apologies for the inconvenience. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

text: * Thanks for fixing that.  The comma error affected many, maybe all the pages where this banner was used.  I just listed one example to show what it was doing. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template not closing 

message: Please add parameter
|Military=yes
(or "military", "military-task-force", "Military-task-force")
to the template, and link it to
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force
76.66.196.218 (talk) 13:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello 76.66, you seem to get everywhere! Um, that is not a taskforce of this project but of MilHist so I'm not sure that it is appropriate. Perhaps a member of the Aviation project could confirm that this is desirable? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military task force 

message: I know I am not the only one to make the mistake of upper and lower case. It is possible to make the parameters in the template not case sensitive? SO that, for example, imageneeded=yes and Imageneeded=yes have the same result.
Traveler100 (talk) 07:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done and done. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 04:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imageneeded 

message: The code for the collapsed section hook has recently been enhanced. One benefit is that the text can be made to line up with the rest of the banner (which I have now done). Another benefit is the ability to selectively collapse the section depending on how many rows are displayed. It is rarely useful to collapse one row, because the header of the section takes up the same amount of space and so information is hidden without any space saving. On the sandbox is an implementation whereby 2 rows or more are collapsed but 1 row isn't. See the /testcases for some examples. Please let me know what you think. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now implemented this. Let me know if there are any problems. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapsed section 

message: When a comments subpage includes a section header, the page TOC becomes embedded in the banner, and if the comments section is hidden, the TOC is also hidden from the page. I discovered this on the Talk:UH-1 Iroquois page. --Born2flie (talk) 00:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. The banner uses Template:WPBannerMeta, so I'll bring it up there to be fixed. - Trevor MacInnis contribs 02:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a banner problem, it's just something that happens with transcluded pages and headers. The only way to fix it is, if you see this problem, then delete the headers from the subpage. They usually won't have any so this problem should be rare. - Trevor MacInnis contribs 23:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment subpage 

message: The banner lists five criteria for B and C class, but the list on Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Assessment shows six. Does the banner need correction? Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No the banner is correct, it's the assessment page that needs fixing. This is mainly because its a copy of the general Wikipedia-wide assessment structure, which uses 6 criteria. Ours is more specialised. Someone (probably me) will eventually get around to fixing the page. Check out WP:MILHIST's page on the same matter to see how they fixed theirs. - Trevor MacInnis contribs 06:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disconnect between the banner and the Assessments Dept. 

message: Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation#Book-class, could someone edit Template:WPAVIATION/class and add 
:
immediately below
:
and
: 
immediately below
: 
?
Thanks. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 18:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:22, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book-class 

message: Request that:
: |tf 2= 
be replaced with:
: |tf 2= 
Since the plural form works without "-project", the singular form should do the same (also, I mistakenly used "Airport=yes" on a few talk pages of new airport articles). Thanks.
Zyxw (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. - Trevor MacInnis contribs 04:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Zyxw, 4 April 2010 

message: Can the portal image be updated from
Portal.svg
to
Portal-puzzle.svg
to match that used by the  template. Thanks -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —fetch·comms 20:12, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal Image 

message: The instructions are now located at the /doc subpage, so the "full instructions" link in the template needs to be updated. See the version in the sandbox for current coding: . Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:51, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link for "full instructions" needs to be updated 

message: Comparing :Category:List-Class aviation articles and :Category:List-Class Aviation accident articles it seems the category name capitalization being applied is inconsistent. Not sure how general the problem is, but it ought to be addressed. LeadSongDog come howl! 15:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, :Category:Indexes of topics (or one of its subordinate categories) would seem to be something that this template should apply. LeadSongDog come howl! 16:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories have inconsistent capitals 

message: I would like to thank you for enlisting the wiki article under the "Aviation WikiProject", and i would like to participate and join the project.
Could you please provide me some information about what my next steps should be (e.g how and where to insert the  Aviation WikiProject banner, etc)?
Thank you in advance --Gmygdak (talk) 10:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  SARISTU project 

message: Moving of some articles out of :Category:Aviation articles needing images to more specific categories of:
*:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of aircraft
*:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of airports
Please update the template to version currently in sandbox.--Traveler100 (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  imageneeded categories 

message: Hello, I'm in the process of converting Wikipedia:WikiProject Defunct Airlines to a task force within parent project WP:AIRLINES.  I've already moved the Defunct Airlines page to reflect its task force status.  Please change the link to the task force accordingly.  You can just keep the code to add it to the project be the same; that way, we won't have to have a bot go around and change everything. Please change the paramater that was used in this template from  to something like  (basically just remove the "Project" from that parameter).  I will try and request that a bot go around and make this change.
Thanks, Compdude123 19:17, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you update the sandbox with the relevant code? I'll make the change for you after that. Also, it would be helpful if you could link to the discussion where a consensus was found to turn the project into a task force. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 05:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Done, see , but please note that prior to doing so I  because two instances of  had mysteriously been altered to } and there is no Template:Defunct-Airlines-project. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, didn't notice that.  It's a good thing we have these pages protected so that people like me don't go screw them up!  —Compdude123 19:42, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 16 August 2012 

message: I would like the text "This article is part of the Defunct Airlines project" to be changed to "This article is part of the Defunct Airlines task force."  Discussion to change it to a task force can be found here.  And I edited the sandbox to reflect this change; just copy/paste the whole sandbox into the main template or whatever.  Thanks,
Compdude123 03:31, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, see , but please note that prior to doing so I  because two instances of  had mysteriously been altered to } and there is no Template:Defunct-Airlines-project. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, didn't notice that.  It's a good thing we have these pages protected so that people like me don't go screw them up!  —Compdude123 19:42, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 20 August 2012 

message: : Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:15, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the section below is part of this edit request.  —Compdude123 19:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Adding a sixth criterion would reclassify all the B-class articles as C-class. I think you need to discuss this with the project first. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 11 January 2013 

message: Currently the B-class checklist in the Banner does not have criteria 6 on it!
Change 
 +
 +
 +
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  }}
to:
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 }}
Petebutt (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding a sixth criterion would reclassify all the B-class articles as C-class. I think you need to discuss this with the project first. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Change the Banner

message: The Defunct Airlines project was converted into a task force last August, and now after I've waited months,  has finally run his bot to edit talkpages of defunct airline articles and remove the parameters like  or  and change them to . Now that the bot has removed those parameters, I'd like to request an admin to remove the parameters  and  from the template. Thanks.
—Compdude123 19:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Compdude123 23:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 23 May 2013 

message: As part of a nearly-completed shift to distinguish requests for photos from requests for images in general, it is requested that this template be modified to place talk pages in "Wikipedia requested images of..." categories, rather than the old "Wikipedia requested photographs of..." categories. As such, please supplement all references to "photo(s) of..." and "photograph(s) of..." with "image(s) of..." in both the template and its documentation, while maintaining backwards compatibility for the old "photo" parameters. In particular, change "photograph or picture" to simply "image". Note that the "Wikipedia requested images of..." categories have already been created. Thank you! — s w p b T 15:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Mock-up in sandbox. — s w p b T 14:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: An addition, please add  and small parameter to it. Thanks. JJ98  (Talk) 18:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: per moratorium proposed at Category_talk:Wikipedia_requested_images_by_subject#Way_forward. Ahecht (TALKPAGE) 00:45, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change photo requests to image requests 

message: See 
If the template is called with an explicit class of "start", but there are also some b class tests set, then the article gets bumped up to C class. This is wrong. We don't rate articles on getting some things right, such as syntax and spelling, we also need coverage across the board and in particular coverage in an article has to be adequate, or else we still just have a beautifully formatted stub. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:57, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed; this WikiProject banner is unusual in that respect. The normal behaviour (typified by Template:Class mask as used by ) is that the B-class tests are only evaluated when  is also set: in such a case, all of the tests must succeed if the B-class is to be upheld, otherwise it is downgraded to C-class. For any other value of , including  and , the B-class tests are ignored and the rating is unchanged. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect ratings if  b tests are used. 

message: Why are airports pages' airline listings combining main line and regional airlines? Did I miss a decision? This seems to be a little dishonest as many of the main line airlines would like you to believe you bought a ticket on their flight but you find out that they have a separate express, connection, eagle brand etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zackrules90 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differentiating main line and regional airlines 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Aerotagm. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Magioladitis (talk) 20:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Template:Aerotagm" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: replace:
  |TF_9_IMAGE           = ArmyAvnBadge.gif
with
  |TF_9_IMAGE           = ArmyAvnBadge.png
to avoid redirect at Commons and showing the correct file type. (files:  and ) Christian75 (talk) 10:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 29 October 2020 

message: FYI, , , , , , , have been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 12:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: [[/Any]], [[/Checklist categories]], [[/Task force categories]], [[/Timestamp]], [[/WikiProject categories]], [[/sandbox/class]] are up for deletion

message: What the title asks. Pinging , as you re-added the B-class checklist and took part in a discussion about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation. It was my (implicit) understanding that - if a WikiProject used the B-class checklist - it would implicitly have opted out of PIQA, though I accept this may be incorrect. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They have opted to continue to use the B-class checklist but it is not actually having any effect on the class rating, so sort of advisory only. Therefore they can stay in PIQA without any issue. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, fair enough. Thank you for explaining  ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 23:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this template be added to [[:Category:WikiProjects using a non-standard quality scale]]?