Talk:Comparison of Canadian and American economies

message: Median income is lower in Canada than in the United States.
:Do you have evidence for this?  I could not find any direct comparisons, but Statscan puts Canadian median income at CSD 55,016 in 2000.  The US census puts their median income at USD 43,527 over a three year average from 2001-03. In terms of purchasing power these numbers would make Canada's median income higher. Comparing these two raw numbers is not ideal, do you have any better numbers? - SimonP 08:57, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, and I've seen several citations which mention that the US has a higher median income than Canada.  Look at median earnings in terms of purchasing parity, the US is quite a bit higher. The margin is much less than if you simply compare per capita income averages but clearly the US is higher.
::: I don't know why this article is using median income for Red Deer, Alberta to represent all of Canada and then goes ahead to use US Census Bureau data for the United States.  If we want to be fair here, Statscan has median family income at http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/famil108a.htm which shows that in 2005 (and in 2005 dollars) the Canadian median income is 60,600.  I'm not sure what the PPP conversion is which may bring it down by an amount. 18:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's literally no citation or numbers for the statement 'median income is higher in america', the later citation is for Average PPP values. And as of 2010 that's probably not accurate  https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html?hp&_r=1  I'm going to add a 'needs citations' to that area.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.150.194.99 (talk) 09:46, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Median income

message: "Aboriginal peoples in Canada, a comparatively smaller percentage of the population, have a far lower standard of living than the majority."
Maybe this should say "Most Aboriginals".  I beleive that some of the *ahem* cheifs live rather well, even if they're only a small percentage of a small percentage of the population.
Talnova
:I think the "on average" is implicit here.  Why didn't you object to the generalization in the previous sentence?  HistoryBA 23:45, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Aboriginal peoples

message: I think that the following opening is highly problematic:
The comparison between the economies of Canada and the United States is generally far more of a concern to Canadians than to Americans.
Canadians feel that they are under constant pressure to remain competitive with the United States. Otherwise, they  fear that they will suffer brain drain, where highly skilled Canadians emigrate and/or corporations relocate to the United States. American citizens and corporations rarely emigrate.
Frankly, it's unsourced crap. "Far more of a concern to Canadians than to Americans" - cite? "Canadians feel that they are under constant pressure to remain competitive with the United States" - cite? "American citizens and corporations rarely emigrate" - cite? (I seem to recall a lot of American corporations "emigrating" to the Bahamas, at least in name, for tax purposes.) All of this is crap and should be reworded, cited or removed. Firebug 04:51, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: POV in opening

message: The banking section seems disproportionatly long, especially in comparison to other sections (I have a hard time believing that banking deserves a longer section than, say, taxation).  Is there any way to cut it down without losing something important?
MiDra 17:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a lot of the banking material, but I also knew I was making it too long. Feel free to cut whatever you think are the least important or interesting parts. No offense will be taken. Deet 19:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Cool.  I started taking out a few lines, but I'm hesitant to massively renovate sections, I'm not exactly the greatest banking afficionado. MiDra 20:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think it is one of the best sections. I would instead say that subjects such as tax policy and productivity are much too short, and should be expanded by someone knowledgable. - SimonP 20:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banking 

message: Are the topics listed drawn from a particular source regarding economic comparisons? I just wonder about which topics should, should not be included here and whether it should be standardized for all of these types of articles. Effectively, this could be viewed as original research Canking 22:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably no one person picked the topics. With regards to you original research question, if an external example existed for every topic then we wouldn't need Wikipedia, would we?  The original research concern applies only if we started some complex math calculations in this article to prove a new thesis regarding superiority of the economy of Nunavut relative to Florida, or something like that. Deet 18:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: You can thank me on my user talkpage.--Rotten 02:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CIV - SimonP 02:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idiotic article made less idiotic 

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message: this was added to the article:
::It is not reasonable to use data for countries which are taken at different times - there is a four year spread of data. It leads to a grossly misleading analysis.
whilst it's true it should have been raised on a talk page. i know nowhere near enough to be able to remedy this, though - so hence i've noted it here. cheers! Onesecondglance (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed "vandalism" 

message: Most of the article is unsourced and highly biased, especially the social programs.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.212.200 (talk) 09:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: For the taxation comparison, there is an article http://slumbuddy.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/comparison-of-canadian-and-us-federal-tax-rates-for-2011/ comparing the federal tax rates and the conclusion is that Canadians pay less federal taxes in general using 2011 data. I added a dispute tag for the taxation section EndoplasmicR (talk) 05:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxation 

message: It's apparent that this article was written by Canadians and has a very Canada-centric view. It should be deleted and re-written. G. Csikos, 22 September 2009.
It is apparent that the above poster is a butthurt american.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.179.2 (talk) 03:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Written by Canadians 

message: This whole article is rubbish. Most statistics are over 10 years old or more out of date. The whole banking section reads like a sad joke given current information.
It either needs a VERY through editing, or deletion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.200.39 (talk) 02:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also Inaccurate and out of date 

message: In the US, a household is "A household includes the related family members and all the unrelated people, if any, such as lodgers, foster children, wards, or employees who share the housing unit. A person living alone in a housing unit, or a group of unrelated people sharing a housing unit such as partners or roomers, is also counted as a household." http://www.census.gov/cps/about/cpsdef.html
In Canada, the term used in the statistics is "family" which is defined as  "A census couple family consists of a couple living together (married or common-law, including same-sex couples) living at the same address with or without children."
The huge difference here is the US figures includes a single person as "household" whereas the Canadian statistics does not. For the Canadian statistics a "family" only includes 2+ people. Some of these countries also appear to be using average income rather than median as well. All this leads to incredibly misleading and inaccurate statistics and odd comparisons. The entire income table is a complete mess and it should not exist here in this form. BlackHades (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of "Household" varies by country. Reasons for table removal. 

message: Also see wikiproject economics discussion Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics#Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies Jonpatterns (talk) 18:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I am concerned that unsourced content and synthesis is repeatedly added to this page. That's got to stop. It would be better to have a small, well-sourced, and up-to-date article rather than a large, cherrypicked, and outdated pile of text. bobrayner (talk) 18:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject Economics

message: No mention of greater U.S. military expenditure. Poor Article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.71.19.172 (talk) 14:42, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Military Expenditure

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message: I moved this section, which is based mainly on a 2003 article to talk page for discussion. There could eventually be an historical overview covering the 20th century, comparing the two countries ?Oceanflynn (talk) 17:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Measuring unemployment

message: It seems like the author went to the trouble to only cherry pick indicators that made Canada look good versus the USA. What does life expectancy have to do with economic comparisons? And why is there such a focus on things like debt to GDP, versus other macroeconomic indicators like real GDP growth, innovation, R&D spending, Global 2000 companies, stock market performance, etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.36.211.215 (talk) 05:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very biased article.