Talk:Scouting and Guiding in Ontario

message: as posted at Wikipedia:Third opinion as between us two there is no consensus. That's the only thing I can think to do at this point. --Chris 04:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion discussion

message: Hi,  in response to the 3O request, my opinion is that the articles should be merged.  This is because of the relatively small number of articles which link to 129th Toronto Scouting Group (what links here page)  There is only one link from another article in that list, from List of LGBT-related organizations, and seeing as the group has been closed now it is no longer an existant organisation (the other liks are from wikipedia projects and from a redirect page).  Also, from what I can see, 129th... falls under the umbrella of this article and so they should be merged.  --Martinp23 13:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That isn't what was asked for. The current dispute is over weather or not I should have closed the debate on the merge. Ardenn 14:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, in that case the debate should have been closed with a result of Support.  This is because  and  expressed their support for a merge, and only  didn't support.  This is a substantial majority - 66% in favour and 33% in opposition, and therefore there is consensus.  Sorry for the original misunderstanding, thanks Martinp23 14:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did it based on AFD's. In the case of so few votes, typically it is either regenerated, or closed as no consensus. To delete, they have to get 75%. Ardenn 19:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with doing it by AfD standards is that the proposed merge doesn't involve deleting any material from the wikipedia, just moving it, but judging by the fact that this article has only had three contributors, all of whom voted, I think it's fair to say that a consensus was reached.  With an article with few contributors, it can be near impossible to get enough votes to reach a 75% majority, but (as far as I know) nowhere in WP policy is there a percentage required for merge requests.  It is preferable for the article to be merged in my opinion (which is outside the 3O request, but I thought it say it anyway :P) and it is important to remember that a merge "vote" is not intended to be a vote (under WP policy), but instead a discussion from which it is hoped consensus can be reached.  In a blunt answer to the 3O request, yes, it was fully fair for Ardenn to close the discussion, but faced with the clear consensus (remembering that this is not an AfD vote discussion), he should have formed the opinion that the articles be merged and carried the merge out, based on the consensus.  Martinp23 20:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PS - I'll be away from today for a week, so may not be able to respond instantly if other comments are posted (sorry for my bad timing :))) Martinp23 20:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:3O]] 

message: *Oppose --evrik (talk) 14:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Closed --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  14:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Camp Opemikon

message: *Merge --evrik (talk) 22:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opemikon Rover Crew

message: Here is a photograph of the 4th Canadian National Jamboree New Brunswick Pentathalon Jamboree It's been so long now I may not have the right name BUT this is a photo of the Toronto group that went in 1976. Myself, Scouter Wayne Ray as Quartermaster and Harry Gatley, 1st Yorkminster Troop, as well as a host of other Toronto scouts and scouters:
 
See also wikimedia commons for more photos:
*:commons:Category:Scouting
*:commons:Scouting
WayneRay 22:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian Jamboree 1976

message: It has been proposed that Toronto Police Service Rover Crew be merged here. Please discuss the merge below. It was not me that proposed it and I have no opinion at this time. --Bduke  (Discussion) 21:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge of [[Toronto Police Service Rover Crew]]