Talk:Us and Them (song)

message: There's nothing in this article that describes what the song is about thematically. It assumes the reader know this. A Wiki by definition is not for specialists and expert, but a window into new things for novices who want to discover new things. I've never heard the song. Give me a hand, mate!  There is too much detail about compositional elements and chords too soon. Give the novice some help up front.  Put the scholarly stuff only experts and fans know later in the article. Thanks!!!   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.71.42 (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Conversation 

message: 40's jazz style? That's the proof that the song is about Roger Water's father? Maybe I would believe that if I saw some kind of reference but as it stand it should probably be removed. --Cdogsimmons 03:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind a little Original Research, myself, but I can't abide Original Stupid Research!  The song is no more about Eric Fletcher Waters than any other of Roger's works that take an anti-war stance.  Thanks for removing that.  --63.25.26.25 (talk) 04:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: I modified the infobox that tells you about the album "The Dark Side of The Moon" in its generality because it had some severe errors with formatting; misaligned and a bunch of other problems to go with it. Fishdert 01:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major edit... 

message: At the time this was released, many of us thought that it was an "anti-war" song targeted at Vietnam, part of the "Peace" movement. Was this just egotistical Americans, or did the English see it that way, too? (Peace sign) Sammy D III (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnam? 

message: From the "Composition" section:
The tune was originally written on the piano by Richard Wright for the film Zabriskie Point in 1969 and was titled "The Violent Sequence". In its original demo form it was instrumental, featuring only piano and bass. Director Michelangelo Antonioni rejected it on the grounds that it was too unlike their "Careful with That Axe, Eugene"-esque work, which was the style of music he wanted to use. As Waters recalls it in impersonation, Antonioni's response was, "It's beautiful, but is it too sad, you know? It makes me think of church"."The Making of The Dark Side of the Moon" Pt. 5 (Us and Them) The song was shelved until The Dark Side of the Moon where Waters put some vocals in to it.
"their 'Careful With That Axe, Eugene'-esque work"?!? Come on. That's awful.
It's true, I have read where Roger Waters said Antonioni was really only interested in "Careful With That Axe, Eugene", but didn't want to say so explicitly. But that sentence I partially quoted needs to be rewritten entirely, perhaps broken into two sentences. I just don't feel up for it right now. I will change the "Waters put some vocals in to it" to "lyrics to it". Is there anybody who knows how to write out there?
--Ben Culture (talk) 05:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Composition" section needs a little re-writing, who's up for it? 

message: Pink Floyd - Us and Them - YouTube features animation, London, New York, is this a fraud ?---Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 04:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Pink Floyd - Us and Them - Film ?

message: Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 04:30, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref List