Talk:Memory hole

message: This article in danger of deletion for non-notability?  Who said irony was dead?  Viracocha (talk) 23:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Notability Guideline notice 

message: Of course! What could be more appropriate?! Pawyilee (talk) 17:15, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Send ''The Memory hole'' down the memory hole? 

message: I've added citations and other material.  This phrase and its history is important.  It does not belong on the Ash heap of history.  Unintended irony ought to spike this misguided attempt at Deletionism.  7&6=thirteen (talk) 05:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Censorship]] is bad, and so is the attempt to delete this article

message: Especially when it makes a politician look bad. Just try to find video of New Jersey Senator Frank Laughtenberg's "It's about control!" rant or the Southwest Airlines union employee who yelled that he didn't care if the airline went bankrupt because of the strike. One my mother saw 50+ years ago was a prominent Democrat party member declaring on live TV that the Democratic Party was communist, then the video was abruptly cut off. In the USA, when a Democrat slips up and accidentally tells the truth about the real motives of the Party "IT'S ABOUT CONTROL!" you can bet the complicit news media makes damn certain that video goes down the hole and will never be broadcast again. The only reason any Republican politician's gaffes get repeated ad-nauseum is because the American media is staffed mostly with Democrats. Yes, even at the so-called GOP mouthpiece Fox News Channel they're mostly Democrats. Just check the public records of media employees political campaign donations. CBS NBC and ABC employees give very little to the GOP. FOX employees give less overall than the other three, but the numbers I've seen show about 60% of their donations are to the DNC.
The problem with proving that something has been effectively "memory holed" is that if you can find irrefutable documentation, or a recording, of something a government, the media, a corporation etc has tried to eliminate, then it hasn't been eliminated. The hope of recovering such evidence is that the people who have ordered the elimination are also paranoid enough to preserve a copy somewhere just in case it might come in handy, for example to do a character assassination on a party member who decides to change sides. For example, if Laughtenberg decided to run on the GOP ticket, I'd lay good odds his control rant would hit YouTube right quick.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.232.94.33 (talk) 11:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Video goes down the memory hole too

message: Gavia immer removed the following:
===External links===
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*Kick, Russ, The Memory Hole (rescuing knowledge, freeing information) - Includes documents released under the US Freedom of Information Act that reveal government activities rarely reported by the mainstream media.]
	 
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*Memory hole quotations.
	 
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*Orwell today.
	 
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*Shenk, David, Op-Ed Contributor The Memory Hole - November 3, 2006 New York Times.
As I will not be accused (and wrongly) of violating the WP:3RR, I think we should discuss this too.  7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As noted in my edit summary: the first belongs at The Memory Hole (web site), not here; the two following links fail WP:ELNO points 2, 11 and 13; and the last is not particularly useful on its own without context or accompaniment. — Gavia immer (talk) 02:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

text: User:7&6=thirteen, as stated, the first 1 is at the wrong article, the next 2 fail WP:ELNO. The last one is mildly interesting, but it isn't about the topic of this article; it's about Alzheimer's disease. Jayjg (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links removed

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*Kick, Russ, The Memory Hole (rescuing knowledge, freeing information) - Includes documents released under the US Freedom of Information Act that reveal government activities rarely reported by the mainstream media.]
	 
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*Memory hole quotations.
	 
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*Orwell today.
	 
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*Shenk, David, Op-Ed Contributor The Memory Hole - November 3, 2006 New York Times.
As I will not be accused (and wrongly) of violating the WP:3RR, I think we should discuss this too.  7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As noted in my edit summary: the first belongs at The Memory Hole (web site), not here; the two following links fail WP:ELNO points 2, 11 and 13; and the last is not particularly useful on its own without context or accompaniment. — Gavia immer (talk) 02:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

text: User:7&6=thirteen, as stated, the first 1 is at the wrong article, the next 2 fail WP:ELNO. The last one is mildly interesting, but it isn't about the topic of this article; it's about Alzheimer's disease. Jayjg (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: Please see the rationale and discussion at Talk:Damnatio_memoriae#Merge_with_memory_hole and comment there (not here), to keep the discussion centralized. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:11, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[Damnatio memoriae]]