Talk:2005 Atlantic hurricane season/Archive 8

message: Should Hurricane Maria really redirect to the article page? There was a Tropical Storm Maria  in the 2000 Pacific typhoon season. Perhaps we could rename all of the Hurricane Blank disambiguation pages to Tropical Storm Blank since in the Northern Hemisphere tropical storm is used in all basins. Michelle T 16:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, we're back to 2000 typhoon season. I didn't know older seasons were being worked on, that's good. Just give it time and I'll get to it eventually. And that naming issue is worth discussing, that's a good point. --Golbez 16:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hurricane Maria should redirect to 2005 Atlantic hurricane season - since it isn't a hurricane in the Western Pacific, and as a forgotten fish-spinner, it definitely isn't worthy of its own article (there is no Impact section to fill it up enough, and fish-spinners almost never get retired unless they sink ships and kill thousands). What could be done is Tropical Storm Maria could be a disambiguation... CrazyC83 16:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I'm starting to lean towards having a linked disambig page, so yes, Hurricane would redirect to the dab as well. But this is a minor quibble at this moment. I'll look at it over the next few days. --Golbez 17:24, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: That's what I was thinking. Redirect Hurricane Maria to Tropical Storm Maria, and make that a disambiguation page. There is no naming conflict because most if not all typhoons and hurricanes start out as tropical storms. Michelle T 17:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But should this be global? i.e. if a name was only used in the Atlantic, then should the dab page be TS or H? --Golbez 17:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I would suppose it should be Tropical Storm Blank if was used in the Atlantic and/or the East/Central Pacific, unless all storms with that name became hurricanes. In that case, Hurricane Blank could be the disambig page. But in the future, it may be necessary to rename it. If it is used in basins with different terminologies, like Maria is, it should be Tropical Storm Blank because Tropical Storm is a global term, whereas Hurricane and Typhoon aren't. Michelle T 18:01, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: If there is only one possible interpretation of Hurricane Maria thus far, why redirect to the disambiguation page instead going directly to the most likely intended meaning?  A person looking for Hurricane Maria certainly won't be looking for Pacific Tropical Storm Maria, although the other way around is possible.  We could do one of those "x redirects here.  For y_description, see y." notes. AySz88^-^ 21:01, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: There's also an issue of names of storms for other basins.  Maybe as many as half of the atlantic names are also used in the NW or SW Pacific, and this needs to be disambiguated somehow.  My suggestion is that Tropical Cyclone Maria be the global disambiguation.  Other articles (Tropical Storm Maria, Hurricane Maria, Typhoon Maria   etc.) can redirect wherever seems appropriate, but remember that if we redirect to a season article there's not much chance for a reader to find their way to the disambiguation.  And I know that none of the Pacific articles exist yet...but eventually they will.  Jdorje 16:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, sorry CrazyC83 I didn't read what you wrote closely enough.  I agree with you entirely.  Tropical Storm redirects to Tropical Cyclone so either of those would be suitable prefixes for the global disambiguation.  Those in the Atlantic probably would be more familiar with Tropical Storm (though people might try to correct it if all the storms involved are full hurricanes); dunno about those in other basins. Jdorje 16:33, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect?