Talk:List of Ed, Edd n Eddy characters/Archive 1

message: Acording to Cartoon Networks OFFICAL Ed Edd n Eddy Site , there are no dashes next to the n. DietLimeCola 05:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Page moved, per request. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

message: Is making this a seperate page without protecting it a good idea? After all, most of the EEnE vadalism was in this category... --Wack'd About Wiki 20:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: DO IT!!!! And keep it that way. I am so sick and tired of everybody jacking around with this article, which was well written and hadn't had a "cleanup" tag on it since the first of the year. This section is where almost ALL the controversy is. Keep it separated, and I won't even look at it again. I just wonder how long it will be before it's the same jumbled up mess that it was before. -- Elaich 00:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Protection doesn't last forever. I doubt the vandalism will be so rampant as it was with a complied article. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be a great idea! I swear to god if I see "Eddy Skipper McGee" or "The Mime Trio" again I'm going to hurt someone... DietLimeCola 03:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate Page? 

message: (The following was posted by DietLimeCola and pretty well sums it up.}
Please read this before editing the page.
It seems people are having trouble finding where the rules actually are on this page, but I'll make it easier.  Heres a full list of the rules for this page.
# One episode rule.  If it was mentioned in only one single episode, it doesn't belong here.  There are many trivial facts about each and every character (which I believe is actually canon), but the page would be a big mess, therefore these one time facts aren't worth mentioning.  Although, there can be exceptions to this rule.  First of all, one part mentions a single episode which reveals Jimmy's teeth being destroyed by a bowling pin disguised as a cream horn.  This should stay because it gives people the answer to "why" he has the retainer (which was a popular question before it was revealed).  Stuff like "Nazz is fat" should not be put in because it was never assumed in the first place she was fat in the past.  Another is Eddy's Brother's history with the kids.  This explains his relationships with the other kids.
# Parents, characters alter-egos, and other kids shall not be added.  They do not have a dense personality like the kids, and never appear.  I realize one episode Ed's mom or aunt, and Eddy's dad pulls them off screen, but this refers back to the one episode rule.  Their parents are not characters, like I stated above, they have little to no personality, and were just there to finish off the plot. Same goes with the Lemon Brook Lumpers, the school nurse, and other one shots. alter-egos should not be added either because it once again, breaks the one episode rule.
# Double D's hat.  It is a mystery of whats under there, and the videogame "lunchroom rumble" is not canon, because it wasn't made by AKA Cartoon.  This goes for fanfics too, fanfics are not canon.
# Rolf's country has no name, and shall remain that way.  This country is a fictional country made by Danny. He chose Rolf to be from a fictional country so he could make up several foreign ways to make the stories, plots, and his overall character more interesting.  If he was from a specific real country, there would be a limit to what Rolf could do.
# Superhuman strength.  All characters can possess unrealalistic strength at anytime to keep the story going along, it's used in many, many old cartoons.
# Jimmy is not a homosexual.  He looks up to Sarah as an older sister, and tends to imitate her because he wants to be just like her.  More evidence that supports this is "Ed in a halfshell", where Sarah leaves Jimmy with the Ed's.  Jimmy for a short time, looks up to Ed and Eddy, therefore he begins acting similar to them. This comment about Jimmy looking up to people should not be added to the page, but it proves that Jimmy is not a homosexual. That's all I can think of right now, if anyone wants to add anything I missed or forgot, feel free.  DietLimeCola 02:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: RULES (READ NEW USERS!)

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The comment about Jimmy being "homosexual" was removed because it is an opinion, and without evidence in the show. Assuming that one stereotyped Jimmy's preference with Sarah or fragility. This does not imply homosexuality.
Good job. How can a 7 or 8 year old boy be homosexual? Too much fanmongering in this subject, and too many kids who can't spell and can't write always adding strange adolescent takes on things that are quite normal. Since the article is now well written, maybe protection is the way to go.--Elaich 07:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would they put a homosexual character in a kids show anyway? DietLimeCola 02:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In many Japanese Anime aimed at younger viewers, there are homosexual characters, but this is often removed in the American Dubs so as not to offend Christians. Anyway, Jimmy has been shown to be violently attracted to Sarah (during Sarah's temporary infatuation with Double-D, he sadistically crushed a very rare flower, dismembered a teddy bear with his teeth, and kicked Eddy repeatedly while saying he wanted Sarah back). He probably acts effeminate because he "loves" Sarah so much that he imitates her to rediculous degrees, though he will also do this with anyone who offers themselves to him as a role model (such as Ed and Eddy). --Zenosaga 00:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jimmy and "homosexuality" 

message: I keep adding that Rolf is possibly from Germany or Austria, and someone keeps removing it. I have proof of the mild hinting, which is in one episode (Wish You Were Ed")it shows a picture of him in "the old country" wearing lederhosen, something ecslusive to Gemany and Austria. Again, Please stop removing that!!!  
The creator of the show is constantly telling people Rolf is not supposed to  be from a specific country, but more of an idealist place, like Peach Creek. Thus, any "proof" you may have is irrelivant, because if Rolf isn't from a specific country, like the creator says, than there is no possibility that Rolf is from Germany or Austria, just like there is no possibility the Peach Creek in the show can be found on any map. --Wack'd About Wiki 14:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC
This is inadmissable evidence because it was shown in only one episode. Rolf's diet also consists mainly of seafood. Should we then assume he is from an island? It's all speculation, and contrary to what Danny Antonucci states in the article that is cited. -- 75.7.153.51 20:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't you read those comments above? Rolf is not from a specific country and that would be speculation (Wikipedia is not a crystal ball) and fancruft (the pen pal only was in one episode). If you added that he was from Norway, it will be reverted since there is a link to an interview with Danny Antonoucci (also on this article under Rolf's section). It is purposely never stated which country he's from in that interview. Squirepants101 13:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop it. 

message: Will the person who is doing this PLEASE STOP???? There is absolutely no reason for it except vandalism. I believe I got them blocked, but that won't last long. -- 75.7.153.51 18:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backslashes before apostrophes 

message: One time,I saw that Ed's last name was Dane. Then it was chaned to Stupidstmith,and then the other ch.  had last names too! Are they real,or are they vandalism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazysonicfeet (talk • contribs) 02:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last name vandalism? 

message: I have put on more character info, and if you do mot believe it, I will explain what episode it happened in/came from. So, I hate to be rude, but if you think there is too much info, perhaps you could make pages about the character(s). Thank you. User:Firedracax 9:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More character info

message: I think that we should post specific guidelines about what will be reverted here on sight. Too many things crop up all too often. I guess we assume that newbies actually read the discussion page, right. ;)
1. One episode rule.
EEnE is famous for having it's history rewritten to engage a plot line in a single episode. Thus, things that happened in only one episode are not canon, and will not remain. Example: Rolf is German because he wore lederhosen in one episode; Rolf is Norwegian because he knows a Norwegian prankster in one episode; Ed is an accomplished flute player because he imitated the Pied Piper in one episode; Nazz used to be obese (a time shifting episode at that;) and so on and so on.
2. Jimmy is a homosexual.
Jimmy is 8, or at best, 9. He is a child. There is no such thing as a homosexual child. This will be reverted on sight by many editors.
3. Superhuman strength.
Nearly all the characters have displayed superhuman strength. This is merely an overworked cartoon cliche' dating back to the beginning of cartoon time. 
4. Fancruft.
Fancruft is a term used in Wikipedia to imply that a selection of content is of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question. While "fancruft" is often a succinct and frank description of such accumulations, it also implies that the content is unimportant and the contributor's judgement of notability is lacking.
Fancruft in EEnE is common, and often assumes the format of rambling sentences added to the end of a section. It really is not relevant that "Ed did (such and such) in (this episode) and Eddy said (blah blah blah.) Please see "one episode rule" above."
4. What's under Edd's hat.
Many people here have used video game evidence to try and prove what is under Edd's hat. Video games are not relevant here. This is an article about the cartoon Ed, Edd n Eddy. No clue has ever been given in the cartoon about what is under Edd's hat, except that Ed and Eddy know what it is, and were awestruck over it.
If anybody else has more to add, please do. I tried to think of more. -- 67.117.25.182 04:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People shouldn't add characters with no personality such as Eddy's Dad, and the football players in "Tight End Ed".  They were mainly used as props to move the storyline along.  
Eddy's dad acts like a typical dad, Ed's mom acts like a typical mom, the football players act like typical football players, the nurse acts like a typical nurse, and the teachers act like typical teachers. They have no personality at all, therefore, are not characters.  It's merely hints to the audience that there are actually more people in the area than the 12 kids.  To keep the 12 character rule intact, they are shown as silhouettes, shadows, or an arm reaching on screen.
Besides, giving them actual personality while having them interact with the characters would break the important 12 character rule in the show.  Characters like Eddy's brother are okay (who has an actual personality), because he isn't actually in the cul-de-sac while interacting with the other characters with the show.  Most mentioning of the parents are just one time jokes anyway.  Put it simply, the only characters on the show are the 12 kids and Eddys brother, no more, no less.   There will never be any more characters on the show either.
We may not get along "Ip Guy", but I'm glad we can at least agree on something.
P.S. I added a hidden comment to the page that can only be seen when somebody is editing the article.  Hopefully this will help.
DietLimeCola 08:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things that will not stay here 

message: Should we include Santa and Glippo? Glippo was seen in Ed and Seek. Santa Claus was seen in Jingle Jingle Jangle. Bob 2.0
:No, because they aren't characters. DietLimeCola 02:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What part of "Please, unless we see another living, breathing human being's whole body on screen talking and communicating with the other characters, no more characters should be added." Don't you understand?  None of these were shown on screen talking and interacting with the characters.  Please give it up, no more characters are going here, sorry. DietLimeCola 01:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not all characters should be listed on these "list of characters" articles nor should they have articles. See WP:TV#Characters. Squirepants101 02:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then what would be the point of this list if we made articles of all the kids. The article is less than 30 kilobytes (see Wikipedia:Article size) and if articles were made, they'd all be tagged as stubs. I think the article is fine the way it is right now. Squirepants101 21:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: -Groans- you just don't get it, do you Bob? DietLimeCola 13:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It is my belief that everything in this show is canon, but the question comes around: is it worth mentioning? Each character has several interestiong facts about themselfs and what they have done, and if its done in only one episode, its cruft.  Alter Ego, Hugo, Wonder Wood, have all been in ONLY one episode.  All of your suggestions break the one episode rule, if we keep adding little ammounts of trivial bits about the characters, then there will be debates on what exactly is mentioned there.  The page is fine as it is anyways. DietLimeCola 06:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for showing the world just how mature you are. Goodbye and good riddance. DietLimeCola 04:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea

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thread_title:  Semi-automated peer review 

message: Was a character in the movie The Big Lebowski. It is no more Edd's last name than "Mater" is Ed's. No last names have ever been revealed in this cartoon. -- Elaich 05:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good find!  None of the characters have last names except the Kankers. DietLimeCola 09:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walter Sobchack 

message: Look at the latest edits. I issued a last warning to 68.37.205.18 for posting the fictional fairy characters again, and a new user called Ronnuhel turns up posting the same garbage. -- Elaich 05:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Therse been more than one user name that has posted that stuff. Sock puppet abuse, someone should report him. DietLimeCola 05:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can go check, but probably not.  This ip  made the same edits as the registered user.  This one lives in New Jeresy, while the library is located in Livermore, CA.  If vandals want to add stupid crap, they can do so here  DietLimeCola 08:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The Library doesn't use AOL.  As for the Mime Trio, I did a quick two minute google search and found out there is a real Mime Trio in Switzerland . There might be a real Mime Trio, but they don't exist in the Ed, Edd n Eddy universe.  As for the fairy tale crap, that stuff was stolen from The Fairly Oddparents. DietLimeCola 18:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha! I think I know who this "Ronnuhel" user is. I think this is a sockpuppet of  (which I suspect is a sockpuppet of indefinitely blocked user , see WP:LTA#Danny Daniel and sockpuppets), not that Mime Trio vandal because Ronnuhel edited a page that Donnyjake created, which is Ricky Martin (The Fairly Oddparents). Another reason I think this vandal could be Donnyjake and possibly Danny Daniel is because his username sounds similar to  (an indefinitely blocked sockpuppet of Danny Daniel). Squirepants101 01:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure its him, I investgated "their" edits, and he was also making edits to a cartoon network show named "Monk", as well as adding "The Inuyasha Jake Power Hour" (A crossover of Inuyasha and My Gym Partner's a Monkey. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DietLimeCola (talk • contribs) 04:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Whoa, did anyone check out the edits made by this guy? .  He needs mental help, because that was just... UGH! DietLimeCola 00:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Mime Trio/fairy" vandal is back 

message: I am constantly running across edits in the article that never showed up in history. Do the vandals have some way of blocking this, or is it just a bug? -- 71.139.246.235 06:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a set of edits that revealed somebodys phone number, so that was deleted. I'm not sure what else was, but if it was, it was probably for a very good reason. DietLimeCola 08:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits missing from "history?" 

message: Is it worth mentioning that Edd and May might have a slight crush on eachother? In the Valentine's Day episode it seemed to hint so (and this is after the cherub arrows had worn-off). Black Kat 19:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I had to remove that, but watching episodes online without the authors permission is against the law.  Valentines day is the "last" episode in the chronological order of the show. (Season 1-4 summer, season 5 in Fall, season 6 in winter, valentines day in winter, slowly entering spring.) So it is not worth mentioning, because it isnt happening in the other episodes. (Because in season 5/6, "Valentines day" technically hasn't come yet) DietLimeCola 18:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it could be the first (It could have taken place the previous year) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.151.104 (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edd (spoiler)

message: I'm wondering how come the part with Jimmy being effeminate but truly wanting muscles was erased by you. He's displayed more than once he desires to be. Just so I know. Thanks. Black Kat 21:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is him wanting to be strong go with sexuality? Black Kat 17:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't care anything about the wanting to be strong part of it. I think that's well established. I deleted the whole sentence because of the effeminate badge. -- Elaich 02:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok. I'll try to reword it then. Black Kat 18:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question to Elaich

message: I don't understand, why are people still adding stuff that breaks the rules?  Comments are on the main page telling people what not to add to characters profiles, telling people to read the rules on this page, I even moved my post about the rules to the top of the page. YET, it just won't stop.  Is there any way we can stop this from happening, because I'm fresh out of ideas. DietLimeCola 04:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been happening since this article was written. Now do you see why myself and others reacted to you and your library friends the way we did when you first showed up? There is no way to stop it, and posting guidelines in the article may actually cause others to want to break them just to get us riled up. I'm sure that's what happened on 2/21. -- Elaich 18:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I've noticed that some users, including Elaich, sometimes call "fancruft" vandalism, but it's not according to WP:VAND#Types of vandalism. Besides, the article on fancruft is an essay, not a policy or a guideline. Squirepants101 13:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the difference beteen fancruft and vandalism. The fancruft that was added here on 2/21 was done in a vandalistic way. Not only were the guidelines intentionally broken, but the posted guidelines themselves were edited. For instance, someone added ages, and then edited out the part that stated that ages were not going to be allowed to remain. That is intentional, and that makes it vandalism. Vandalism is not about content, but intent. -- Elaich 18:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those vandals weren't probably anyone new, because they know what presses our buttons - they know the rules to the page, yet they intentionally break them just to make us mad.  It's probably the same people from previous edits, could be the mime trio guy, the fairy guy, or maybe one of those library guys. (I don't talk to them anymore though) DietLimeCola 21:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the good news is that with the new vandalism I have a reason to help out again. Hi, everyone - remember me? I wouldn't be suprised if you didn't, because Wikipedia hasn't worked on my computer in a while. I'll be watching this page again, and will try to help any way I can. --Wack'd About Wiki 16:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just don't understand. 

message: I know it's said you aren't supposed to add 2x4 to his name, but is it a problem to put in the section that he is sometimes referred to as "Jonny 2x4" by the other kids? I was about to put to it, until I noticed the attention section before editing. Figured I might as well ask incase either 2x4 isn't at all allowed or if something like that doesn't matter. Black Kat 20:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: actually, i was wondering - why aren't you supposed to add it? in the credits of the show, he's listed as "Jonny 2x4" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.25.36.54 (talk) 17:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jonny 2x4

message: I nominated this page for semi protection  Fancruft (which I consider vandalism because people are specifically told not to add fancruft), has been getting way out of control lately.  I feel this would be best for the page, and would eliminate most vandalism edits (because most vandalism edits are coming from unregistered users) DietLimeCola 19:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested for Semi-Protection 

message: Why the @#%# are the Kankers minor characters? They do appear in a lot less episodes than the other characters but that doesn't mean they're minor!
:Good suggestion. Black Kat 19:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are minor in comparison, and it is perfectly possible to have an episode without them. -- Elaich 04:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: In my opinion, the Ed's are the only 3 main characters. Everyone else is just "other characters" including the Kankers, Kevin, Sarah, Nazz, ect. --Piemanmoo 04:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Characters?