Talk:Lullabies to Paralyze

message: I believe that the article doesnt fit the criteria of being a stub anymore. "A stub is a very short article, generally of one paragraph or less. Most stubs fail to cover all but the most trivial subjects completely." So if you are all in favor, I would like to remove the "stub"-tag. Johnnyw 16:35, 5 Apr 2005 (GMT+1)
:I Agree... Can't write much more about an album, so I removed the tag. Totti 11:00, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  still a stub? 

message: I found another bonus track, on the Japanese retail, "Infinity", possibly on the Australian version as well, source is here. --Baseballfan 19:08, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another bonus track 

message: WikiProject Albums says EPs (as well as singles, compilations etc.) aren't usually included in the infobox chronology... Gika 08:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, well some Alice in Chains albums included EPs in chronology. -- Mike Garcia | talk 01:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  EPs in chronology? 

message: Who recorded the finale? Some middle school marching band? worldmaster0 15:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden Track 

message: I removed "notes" section, however I am pasting it here with hope it will be integrated into the article with footnotes. I am going to do some research about these information as well. Broken soul 14:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: :GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:a (fair representation):  b (all significant views): 
#It is stable.
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#It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
#:a (tagged and captioned):  b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales): 
#Overall: 
#:a Pass/Fail: 
 
General comments
I am sorry, but this is a clear fail, and actually, I believe this should have been clear before nominating the article. To give you some starting points I will make some quick points, add some tags to the article — please be aware that there might be more. After clearing up or discussing these points, you can of course ask me at my talk page to give it a more in-depth review before resubmitting it. But please take look at other GA about albums, to see what is the minimum expected for an article like this: Extraordinary Machine, The Velvet Underground and Nico, ...
Specifics
Regarding 1)
* Prose looks fine as of now, no major style problems.
* See WP:LEAD. The lead should be a good summary of the article and be able to stand alone, if necessary. It currently doesn't accomplish that. There's info in the lead that is missing in the article body, and more important info in the body that's not mentioned in the lead, as the fall-out with Nick Oliveri for example. Since the article needs to be broader in its coverage (see below) please adjust the lead after adjusting the article. 
Regarding 2)
Some unsourced statements:
* Lullabies to Paralyze is a signature hard rock album
* The album title "Lullabies to Paralyze" takes its name from song lyrics on the bonus track from Songs for the Deaf, titled "Mosquito Song". 
:Actually, I know that I actually had that statement sourced a long time ago, shouldn't be a problem to find the reference.
* ....almost the entire lead needs to referenced! (music videos, sales numbers, etc.)
Some accounts of original research:
* the "Hidden finale"...
* "but at least "The Lost Art of Keeping a Secret" and "Regular John" are actually from"
Regarding 3)
This probably the biggest issue with the article. Some points that are not or hardly mentioned:
* recording process (could include the info about the missing "fun machine" tapes, that joe barresi was the producer, anything you can find...)
* fallout with Nick Oliveri
:I know there were a lot of comments and anticipations regarding this important line-up change. also, I read an interview about Homme actually screening all the base parts to Oliveri before recording it to get his approval.. I am sure there are at least some things worth mentioning and easy to find.
* what about the screening club concerts? there were some in Europe, there are not mentioned. the one in Berlin was cancelled due to Homme coughing his lungs up... also not mentioned in the article
Regarding 4)
* words like "Strangely," are value-laden and need to be removed
Regarding 6)
* the fair use rationales need tweaking:
:* each rationale needs to say to which article it corresponds to ("Fair use rationale for Lullabies to Paralyze" in the title, e.g.)
:* there seems to be a misunderstanding: the rationale says, that the cover art was created by a famous artist, queens of the stone age. did the band draw/design/etc. the cover? don't think so. this is meant for albums like Tool's Lateralus with artwork from Alex Grey, etc. Please adapt, or correct me if I am wrong (don't have the albums at hand right now).
Well, that's it for now. Please don't be discouraged by these comments, and continue your work to get this baby to GA! I know there is some way to go, but it will be worth it ;-) Next time, keep some of the points made here in mind before submitting an article to the GA process - if you are unsure if your article will make it, just ask anywhere for a mini-review before submitting it. Best wishes, Johnnyw talk 12:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article needs to have a shorter lead paragraph. Sales of the album would be better suited in their own paragraph or even a combined paragraph with 'Critical Reception', entitled simply 'Reception'. I'd do this, but I'm still a relative novice at doing wiki stuff and thus am still unsure what will be considered appropriate. red157 20:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: Is Shirley Manson interviewed on the DVD bonus? I was told she was, but can find no reference to it anywhere online. Breakinguptheguy (talk) 23:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shirley Manson

message: This reference should be worked into the article. Binksternet (talk) 16:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording studio detail 

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