Talk:Siege of Naxos (490 BC)

message: Hi Kyriakos, great job so far on the article. Nice pictures too.
I guess if you can continue to expand with the sub headings, I will help out with some of the stats/figures and wording/grammar. Quite soon this article will be like the other rather well-written and articulate Greco-Persian War articles. Look forward to cooperating with you.--Arsenous Commodore 00:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Plan 

message: At the top of this article, there's a map with the caption "Location of Naxos". However, I can't find the name Naxos anywhere on this map. Is it the wrong map or has Naxos been edited out from it or has the person who put the map in the article just thought wrong? /Ludde23 Talk Contrib 20:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the map. You should be able to find it without too much difficulty now. ·ΚέκρωΨ· 23:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The map 

message: I'm trying to improve the depth of coverage for the Greco-Persian wars across all articles, and get all of them up to at least Good Article status. However, this article, in particular, is problematic, for two main reasons:
#As far as the ancient sources tell, there wasn't any real military engagement here. Therefore "Siege" is a rather grand title. Basically, the Persians came, the Naxians ran away. Presenting this as a distinct military engagement, as is done in this article, is not really accurate.
#The article can never be satisfactorily expanded, because other than (and I quote from the article):  The Naxians were surprised when they saw the Persian fleet and they fled to the mountains. When the Persians disembarked they looted and burnt the capitol of Naxos and they enslaved anyone they caught.  there's nothing to say.
Thus, I don't think it really needs a seperate article.
I think that the events at Naxos in 490 BC can be adequately covered at First Persian invasion of Greece#Siege of Naxos, without needing a separate article. I suggest leaving this page as a redirect to the above article, and moving any content which is not already covered there, to First Persian invasion of Greece. The Greco-Persian Wars navigation box would still have "Siege of Naxos (490 BC)" (or some more appropriate title) in it, but now directing to the appropriate subsection of the FPIOG article. This is the approach I have used for some other battles which are clearly not going to have a full article written about them; for instance, follow the link for "Siege of Olynthus". 
Ultimately, if the consensus is that this deserves its own article, then I will not contest that. However, I fear that it will always be "stubby". I will wait for anyone with a vested interest in this article to voice their opinion before taking any action. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 09:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Having just checked briefly, it appears that there may not be many editors with a vested interest in this article. No-one has commented on this page since April 2007, and no-one has made a significant contribution (other than maintenance tasks) to this article since February 2008. And some of those editors seem to be inactive or banned. So, I will wait two weeks for any opinions, and then act. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 09:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Although uninvolved in this page, I fully agree with your assessment and proposal. In any historical work I've come across, the capture of Naxos is mentioned briefly as a stage in the Persian invasion fleet's progress towards Euboea and Attica, and that's about it. Given that, if I remember correctly, i) most of the island's population fled to the interior and resistance was minimal, and that ii) the island certainly had no fortifications, the very name "Siege of Naxos" is misleading, indicating some major action. Constantine   ✍  15:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's now two weeks later, so I'm going to re-direct this page. I now half-expect a flood of complaints, but the article can be reverted if necessary. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 16:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion/Merge Proposal