Talk:Monkeys and apes in space

message: What are the reasons for the deaths shortly after landing?  Injuries from a bad landing?  Shock? --81.178.135.207 01:15, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Died soon after landing 

message: I've added what should be enough content to the page on Gordo to warrant its own page. I feel that adding this information to this summary page would do more harm then good. Unless anyone has an issue with it I'll remove the merge tag GreatGodOm 18:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. Can you do a fact check on it? Check out earlier revisions and you'll notice the article creator claiming that the monkey actually faked the crash and defected to the Soviets. :) I hold the entire article suspect. ccwaters 19:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've placed three sources at the bottom of the page which should be accurate enough. All the facts, as they are now, are sourced GreatGodOm 16:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gordo

message: Primates are monkeys, chimpanzees are primates... I removed the Not Monkeys part where it says "they were chimpanzees" please read the Primate page for clarifation if needed. Maybe we should rename the page "Primates in space"? I think it would be more accurate... we could have monkeys in space redirect... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.158.133.194 (talk) 11:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  primate 

message: Were any of the monkeys trained to do anything, for example, hit a button if a light comes on, or were they all just passive passengers?
More information is necessary on how the monkeys were trained, verbal commands?  Pavlov training?  electrical shock?  radio transmissions on altering frequencies?  sound response, etc.?
am_curiousity2000  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.182.192 (talk) 03:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actions in Space 

message: The last line of the Soviet/Russian section is clearly biased and has no factual basis.  It is in stark contrast to the Wikipedia article on Soviet Space Dogs which uses facts and references to show a higher survival rate in their programs.  It hsould be removed.
76.168.248.13 06:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased 

message: Patricia and Mike from the 1952 Aerobee flights were "Philippine macaques". The only macaque of the Philippines is Macaca fascicularis. The term "cynomolgus" applies to the same species. I'll fix the article accordingly. --Cam (talk) 05:46, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Philippine monkeys"

message: This section is problematic. I found a reference that it seems to be based on:  but I cannot judge the reliability of this source. The section is filled with rocket types and monkey species unknown to Wikipedia and rocket launch dates unknown to Encyclopedia Astronautica. Perhaps the section was badly translated (the monkey type may be a cebus species). Anyone have any further sources for this? Did any of these flights actually reach 100km? Rmhermen (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This may be the original and more reliable source:  but, while they are almost exact copies, the first claims the first claims that the first Argentine monkey flight reached a height of 60 km and a total flight time of 8 min while this second source says it only went to 30 km but took 21 minutes total. Rmhermen (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

text: We have multiple published sources which give multiple altitudes. How are you determining which is the correct one? Why for instance does the newspaper in the background of the video you link twice say altitude of 70 km? Rmhermen (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

text: This article uses the international 100 km definition but may refer to the earlier 50 mile definition in some places. Rmhermen (talk) 15:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Argentina

message: I see a little bit of wiki graffiti at the end of the article - "monkeys have long tails" - but can't see it in the source code to remove it, not being a wiki expert this is the edge of my understanding so can't fix it...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.79.25 (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Last comment

message: The United States section mentions that of the four "Albert" V2 flights, two monkeys died during the flight and the other two died on impact.  The suffocation and explosion were presumably accidents, but what about the impacts?  Did parachutes malfunction, or where they not even installed? -- 124.157.218.5 (talk) 11:36, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated. Both parachute failures. Rmhermen (talk) 17:17, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Albert" V2 flights -- was death on impact planned or an accident? 

message: There is no reference for this and it seems like trivia. Should it be removed?
122.60.138.173 (talk) 13:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Removed it after no one objected for a while.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.187.171.112 (talk) 19:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Able inspired a character in the film Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian." 

message: Video by sonofiran looks like a iranian military interest channel, shows 4 camera view of launch from a window, looking back at base of rocket, at monkey (who doesn't even blink at 10G launch), and at base of "capsule" which shows jettison of booster and deployment of parachutes. No heat shield involved evidently. Redhanker (talk) 17:26, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Iranian telemetry video of flight 

message: I have removed this reference ( <rf>1959 – Space Monkeys Able and Miss Baker become the first monkeys to safely return to Earth</rf> ) from the article because it's a circular reference.  The article at The Centre Cannot Hold was written using no other sources than this Wikipedia page.  I know this, because I wrote it.  Wherever those figures were originally sourced from, it wasn't my site - they were already on this page when I wrote that article.  Lokicarbis (talk) 14:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference removed 

message: Most of the apes that went to space are humans, otherwise the title should be changed to "Non-human simians in space". Editor abcdef (talk) 07:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , the title was moved but has now been moved back. To some editors the addition of 'non-human' defines the page, otherwise 'apes' means any ape, including human. Just saying 'apes' doesn't make sense.  (and nice work on the page by the way), maybe this should go to an RM, unless you want to discuss it enough first to maybe change it back. Thanks. Randy Kryn 19:27, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should humans be included? 

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message: realted to the Philippine Monkeys section. When refering to Macaca fascicularis two names are used.
"while Albert III was a Crab-eating macaque."
"Patricia and Mike, two cynomolgus monkeys"
unless there is a good reason to use the different one name should be selected and used.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.54.131 (talk) 06:23, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of monkeys 

message: As of right now, this page asserts (with no citation) that Enos was the third Great Ape to go to space. But who is supposed to have been second? In this article about monkeys and apes in space, there is only ever reference made to one other non-human Great Ape (Ham). I have not been able to find any source mentioning a non-human Great Ape, chimp or otherwise, traveling to space, by name or otherwise. I even found one source affirming that there were two chimps ever. https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/a-brief-history-of-chimps-in-space# 65.30.93.194 (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many chimps went to space?