Talk:Deliriant

message: Rawr, I /hate/ this common misconception! While deleriants are true hallucinogens, so are conventional hallucinogens. A hallucinogen is something that causes hallucinations, and hallucinations are perception in the absence of external stimuli (Note that there is nothing in that definition about whether these hallucinations are considered real by the person).
The only difference between deleriant-induced hallucinations and those caused by conventional hallucinogens is that they appear real; in other words, they are accompanied by delusions that they are real. There is nothing "true" about deleriant-induced hallucinations that there isn't about those caused by, say, LSD.
--140.159.2.32 04:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with the above. I know this isn't Erowid, but I have begun to realize that there are two kinds of hallucinations seen on deliriants. The first is the kind that is obviously not there, such as wispy lines flying through the air, wispy, smoke-like visuals coming off of objects, walls, etc. and distortions of actual objects (such as seeing a bed post bend, morph, and distort). The second kind of hallucinations, usually expierienced at higher doses, are the realistic (or dream-like) type, such as thinking you are talking to somebody, or thinking you are at school or work when you are actually at home, etc.--206.28.43.150 (talk) 20:14, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "True" hallucinogens 

message: Should this article be merged with anticholinergic?  --Thoric 16:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: moved here per WP:PRESERVE
;Effects 
The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking. Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering one had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror.
The effects have been linked to sleepwalking, a fugue state or a psychotic episode (particularly in that the subject has minimal control over their actions and little to no recall of the experience). This is a notable departure from the effects of serotonergic psychedelics.
Naturally occurring deliriants are found in plant species such as Atropa belladonna (deadly nightshade), various Brugmansia species (Angel's Trumpets), Datura stramonium (Jimson weed), Hyoscyamus niger (henbane), and Mandragora officinarum (mandrake) in the form of tropane alkaloids (notably atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine). Synthetic compounds such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) and dimenhydrinate (Dramamine) are also deliriants. Additionally, the mushroom referred to as fly agaric and its active principles ibotenic acid and muscimol may also be considered deliriants, albeit with a unique biological mechanisms of action.
;Classes of deliriants 
;Anticholinergics 
Tropanes:
* atropine
* hyoscyamine
* scopolamine
Disubstituted glycolic acid esters:
* benactyzine
* dicyclomine
* N-ethyl-3-piperidyl benzilate
* N-methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate
* 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate
* ditran
* EA-3167
;Antihistamines 
* chlorpheniramine
* cyclizine
* dimenhydrinate
* diphenhydramine
* doxylamine
* meclizine
* promethazine
; Other
*benzydamine
*myristicin
*ibotenic acid
*muscimol 
;Mythology 
Deliriants such as henbane, mandrake, Jimson weed and fly agaric are featured in many stories in European mythology.
-- Jytdog (talk) 23:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  unsourced 

message: Many other medications can cause Delirium, so I have added them to the main page of the article to add more examples of medications which can cause delirium. Noam111g (talk) 02:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other deliriants for the main page 

message: I suggest a semi protection for the Deliriants Article. There's too much vandalism going on, for an article which is very similar to the Delirium article, except there are atleast less reliable sources. Noam111g (talk) 12:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protection