Talk:Year-round school in the United States/Archive 1

message: When I first encountered this article, it was not quite up to quality standards.
I have re-written nearly the entire article.  I believe that the original article had some factual errors and did not appear to be purely neutral.  I have organized pros and cons into a list; uploaded photographs, and I am now tracking down as many citations as possible. Nimur 17:07, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Edits

message: This issue has been a controversial one in many areas.  However, it is important to keep several important Wikipedia principles in mind:
The purpose of this article is to inform readers about Year Round Education.  This is an encyclopedia article.  This is not a message board of pros and cons, nor is it a forum for argument.
*Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View Please note that this is not merely a guideline, but an official policy on the Wikipedia:
*Wikipedia:Reliable sources In addition, these guidelines are also suggested.
*Wikipedia:No original research to prevent adding your own web-pages as citations, for example.
Several sources were recently added by editor WesWalker which are clearly of his/her own creation:
* http://www.geocities.com/weswalker99/NCStudy/McMillen1.htm
* http://www.geocities.com/weswalker99/memdm.htm
* http://www.geocities.com/weswalker99/rmitchell/MTYRE_Paper1_Chicago_Formatted.htm
This is not appropriate for inclusion in the article, as these sources are neither neutral nor reputable as per the Wikipedia guidelines cited above.  Wikipedia does not permit original research as a matter of official policy.
Note that the other sources cited in the article come from reputable third-parties, such as government education departments or school districts, and they use statistics, facts, and real data to make their point.  This is precisely what is meant by "neutral."
Many edits inserted the word "claim" in front of various sentences.  It is considered bad style to do this.  Either the fact is true, or not true; it should be kept or removed; but it should not be described as a "claim" every time it is mentioned.
The edits by WesWalker during this time frame also removed photographs of a Year-Round School.  Images were specifically requested to improve this article's quality, and should not be removed without a very good reason.
The season, "summer", is written with a lower-case "s", unless it is a person's name.
During the course of this article's history, the phrase "disputed" was removed regarding findings about academic merit because no reliable sources could be found which dispute these findings.  One of these edits misquoted the Los Angeles Assistant Superintendent, attributing quotes by the author of an LA Weekly article to the superintendent.  Such edits are clearly unacceptable.
In summary, let's work to make this article an informed and reliable source of knowledge for people who are seeking to learn about Year-round school.
: Please use the Discussion Page to post comments regarding your major disruptive edits.  Further reversion, incorrect quotations, and removal of the photographs will be treated as vandalism.  See the above discussion for full explanation of all edits in question.  Nimur 13:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV: Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Year-round_school&diff=73480334&oldid=72279232 Edits]

message: This page has become target of many vandals in recent weeks.  I will keep it on my watchlist; hopefully we will not need to resort to protecting the page. Nimur 20:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We won't. Nimur 17:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Persistent Vandalism

message: The states that offer year round schools should be inserted in this article. Also, the reasoning and studies behind each side. Including why people are saying that it is harmful to children. In addition, the article does not have listed the different types of year round schedules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.164.160.4 (talk) 08:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page could be more thorough 

message: For our English course, Introduction to Digital Literacies, we are working to improve this page.  
Below is a brief outline of what we plan on doing to revise this page.  
Introduction 
Background/history
Models (Danielle)
*Single track
*Multi-track
*Extended Year
Arguments
*In favor (Brittany)
*Against (Chase)
You can contact me, the pathfinder, on my talk page if needed.  user:bnfeilen  —Preceding undated comment added 00:28, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Ball State University ENG 213

message: The first source cited is outdated. Please remove this source or cite a new one.
JoJoPogo22 (talk) 00:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you able to supply a new source? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 01:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia:Link rot, we don't delete references just because they are no longer live, as they tell readers where the information in an article came from.  It's valuable to readers to be able to see that the source is from 1992, so the information may be out of date.  I couldn't repair the link using the Wayback Machine, so for now I've just tagged it. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 11:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 19 March 2012 

message: counted.
Please rate the amount of time spent as follows:
* 0 -No unproductive work to clean up
* 1 - A few minutes of work needed
* 2 - Between a few minutes and half an hour of work needed
* 3 - Half an hour to an hour of work needed
* 4 - More than an hour of work needed
Please also add any comments you feel may be helpful. We welcome ratings from multiple editors on the same article. Add your input here. Thanks! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 19:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Impact of recent student edits

message: 97.64.238.66 (talk) 15:16, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: No request made. --ElHef (Meep?) 17:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 13 May 2013 

message: The title "Year-round-school" does not indicate that the subject matter is specific to the United States, nor is their any qualification in the introductory paragraph that explains this article is specific to the United States.  Claims are made that "the first YRS...etc.."  Does this mean the first YRS in the U.S. or the world?  The article is deficient in this regard.  Furthermore, there is a complete absence of discussion of YRS outside of the United States.  These problems could be resolved by either making it explicit that the article is specific to the U.S., or by expanding the article to include implementations of YRS in other countries.
There is also a repeated "also" in the last sentence that should be edited.
Mwwardle (talk) 14:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the rogue "also" and added a  tag to the article. I agree with you that something needs to change here. --ElHef (Meep?) 14:46, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved/re-named the article to the more-appropriate "Year-round school in the United States". Shearonink (talk) 15:36, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This doesn't negate the need to have a separate page that discusses this subject throughout the world. To my mind, US practice is opnly one part of a general worldwide practice that needs to be addresses in a separate article to be called Year-round schooling. werldwayd (talk) 02:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topic content is too narrow for its title 

message: Cinnjenn (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: Under "Effect on students" the Ohio State and Virginia studies "found" that year-round programs don't have an impact. The California DoE study "claims" students have increased performance. Found means discovered.  Claims means opinion.
Despite being a longer description the Ohio State study's description doesn't mention it covered only kindergarten and 1st graders.  The single sentence California description mentions it was only on 3rd graders, leaving the impression it was a narrower study.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.117.214 (talk) 23:52, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please clarify and balance 

message: Reference 10  "Year Round Schooling" is a dead link, and the information related to the link should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuskensp (talk • contribs) 13:02, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad reference 

message: i love school
167.217.30.1 (talk) 19:20, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Good - but that is not a Semi-protected edit request - Arjayay (talk)20:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  on 12 August 2015 

message: I request that you add an opposition part
205.126.66.131 (talk) 14:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: - There already is an entire section labeled "Opposition" covering three subsections - If you would like to suggest an addition, please do so here, but this is an encyclopedia, not social media - so we do not include your opinion, or what you have seen in a blog, just what reliable sources have said in newspapers, magazines etc. - Arjayay (talk) 16:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2015 

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 school is pretty dumb 
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Dominicjones4748 (talk) 16:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: No request was made. See WP:EDITREQ or feel free to contact me directly for further assistance. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:21, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

text: , as you have not requested a specific change to the article. Altamel (talk) 04:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2015 

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I wanna make some grammer fixes jk idc 
Ilikeblue (talk) 00:06, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You can edit this article when your account is at least four days old and you have made at least 10 edits.  See WP:AUTOCONFIRMED.  If you would like another editor to put in the fixes for you, then please specify exactly what needs to be changed ("Please change X to Y").   RudolfRed (talk) 00:20, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Not done: as you have not requested a change.If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2016 

message: Xavier lary (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Shearonink (talk) 13:48, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2017 

message: there is some overlap, but these two sections should be combined Jrishel (talk) 19:02, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  there are two sections both titled "Effects on Students"