Talk:Javanese people

message: How come sate is not mentioned in the cuisine section? It's a very popular food from Java. 203.82.92.60 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: No Sate?

message: Well Munir was actually an Indonesian Arab, though he might have had some Javanese ancestry. Meursault2004 20:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Munir

message: Why four of five picture is president?202.69.101.170 07:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I agree. They are all politicians. We should change the picture. I think the picture on the Indonesian Wikipedia is better, although it is in BW. Meursault2004 17:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: How is "Javanese" called (pronounced) in Javanese? How is the name of Java island pronounced by its inhabitants? I've found a number of different pronunciations including "Java" and "Yava" but couldn't find the original...
--Aleksandar Šušnjar 15:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Javanese is called wong Jawa [wɔŋ 'dʒɔwɔ] or tiyang Jawi [tijaŋ 'dʒawi] in Javanese. The former is in the so-called ngoko speech register (roughly common speak) and the latter in the so-called krama speech register (roughly official speak). The island of Java is called pulo Jawa or pulo Jawi. But the land of Java where the Javanese people live, is called tanah Jawa or tanah Jawi. Tanah is pronounced as [tɑn'ah], while pulo is pronounced as ['pulo]. Meursault2004 17:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Latin Java is pronounciated like the native call their island, Jawa.Aditthegrat 08:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation of "Javanese" and "Java"

message: I renamed this article from Javanese to Javanese people, consistent with the convention used with other articles about ethnic peoples. I'll have Javanese redirect here with another link to Javanese (disambiguation). --Ginkgo100 talk 22:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, the language is quite often referred to. Glancing at Special:Whatlinkshere/Javanese, while more seem to be for the ethnic group, there are quite a few referring to the language as well. Most of this kind go right to disambiguation, for example English or Balinese. Having Javanese be a disambiguation page would make it more obvious that the links that go there (that should go to either the language or the ethnicity) should be redirected. Rigadoun  (talk) 16:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renamed article 

message: Is anyone else disturbed that this article does not cite any of its sources.  Regarding the used of Indonesian, It mentiones a survey but does not cite it.  That particular segment says that only about 30% of Javanese speak Indonesian.  That might be the case, but I really doubt it -- all school children learn Indonesian.  Also, most if not all of TV programs are broadcast in Indnesian or in a foreign language with a Indonesian subtitles.  In my experience, with the exception of the very old (who grew up before wide spread general education) and the very young (who have not gone to school yet), most Javanese speak Indonesian. Dr. Lukens-Bull 11:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that seems like an error. Don't know how that happended.Merbabu 02:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No Sources

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left here. Ling.Nut 22:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: An anonymous editor (User:202.58.86.15) has repeatedly removed the sub-country regional population stats without providing any justification why they are unsuitable for use in the template. In reverting these unjustified changes I've pointed out that nowhere does the template (Template:Ethnic_group) state that sub-country stats cannot be included. User:Merbabu has also reverted these changes, I presume for the same reasons. Until a case is provided for why the province stats, which provide a useful understanding of the widespread distribution of the Javanese people throughout Indonesia, cannot be included I will continue to revert these changes. (Caniago 13:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the case for removal should be made first, rather than a case for keeping. --Merbabu 13:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of sub-country regional population statistics

message: This is ,meant to be about the people - it is now creeping into history, and culture and goes beyond the scope of what these style of article should contain - a lot of the extra stuff belongs in other articles SatuSuro 00:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: This article is getting weird

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thread_title: File:Notable Javanese.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: 70% of this article belongs in other articles - History, Culture are not the main intent of this article, it is a misappropriation.
As an ethnic group the sheer size of population of the javanese ethnic group is an issue where transmigration in the past has seen groups try (some successes and failures) to assimilate in non javanese regions - there also significant variations in language, cuisine, depending on the regional location.  Try speaking and asking a Javanese from Banyumas and Banyuwangi about things - and there are significant differences...  Surabayans and Yogyakartans... the differences are many...
This article needs to be reduced in size and pruned of extraneous material which needs to be in other articles SatuSuro 10:36, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Article issues

message: The pictures of Javanese people on top are somewhat imbalanced; they weights more on contemporary figures with little historical ones. I've changed some of them to figures who lived during the colonial era. Alteaven (talk) 02:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Javanese people 

message: Does anyone know the actual population of Javanese in Malaysia? Wikipedia here says 4.3 million but according to this site, it says it 641000.
https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/17000/MY
Anyone can clarify which is the correct number?ShanghaiWu (talk) 02:35, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Javanese population in Malaysia

message: Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. Hahun (talk) 07:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups 

message: Add new course in language column
http://badanbahasa.kemdikbud.go.id/lamanbahasa/sites/default/files/UU_2009_24.pdf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.192.224.172 (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Indonesian and Malay

message: I couldn't find the definition for "Omah Kudus" as mentioned in "The elaborately carved Omah Kudus is a fine example of Javanese woodcarving mastery." , can anybody help, so that I can put it in my translation (into traditional Chinese)? Thanks for your kind attention. ThomasYehYeh (talk) 06:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omah Kudus？ 

message: Last statistic made by British Malaya for Javanese population there was 189,000 in 1950. The terminology "British Malaya" is important since Sabah and Sarawak were not included yet, and Singapore was considered part of British Malaya. The 5 million number claimed by AlhyarJy is irresponsible, since no study had been given. All references from Kompas, Malaysiakini and article from Teruo Sekimoto do not contained any exact Javanese numbers, but only narratives of the people that migrated to Malaya. If editor insisted on the number, please provide reliable census or at least statistical study to back it up. Barapawaka (talk) 06:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers of Malaysian Javanese Population