Talk:Jamshid

message: I did my part to wikify this page, but it still seems... questionable. He invented clothes? Is this an Iranian word or what? I am genuinely suspicious and confused. 65.35.79.245 23:52, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: At first, I thought that this was nonsense, but now I am not sure.
Maybe this Jamshid guy was credited with these things the same way Johnny Appleseed was credited with them apples.  A real historical figure whos life story has become steeped in myth.
JMHO Roodog2k 18:41, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Persian Johnny Appleseed? 

message: Whenever anyone wants to clean this up, please contact me, if you wish, for Yima Khshaeta - the Jamshid of the Avesta and Zoroastrianism. I've put it on my to do list, but might not get to it for a while. As to Jamshid and Johnny Appleseed, in the Vendidad of the Avesta he is the Zoroastrian "Noah". He wasn't the "Adam" of Zoroastrianism, Gayomard was. The Ruba'iyat and particularly the Shahnameh are, of course, essential to this article. But be careful not to confuse them with Zoroastrianism. This article also still needs to be cleaned up in general. Khirad 08:34, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a page for Yima.  I suggest merging this with Jamshid. RandomCritic 06:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: In the Avesta

message: According to the article, Jamshid divided the people into four classes (priests, warriors, farmers, and artisans).  This division bears striking similarity to the Hindu caste system.
I did some more research on him, and apparently he was overthrown because "he claimed to be God".  The following is from Verse 8 of Yasna 32:
Verse 8:
Among those sinners, Yima (Jamshid), the Son of Vivanghan is known to fame. Desiring to make happy the mortals and convince his own self, he contempted the Almighty. I shall have full satisfaction with Thy judgement, O Lord of Wisdom, in respect of the sinners on the final day of Judgement.
This is confirmed by a Zoroastrian website:
Dear Rustom and readers:
Several friends have asked me about beef/meat eating, Is there any citation against it in the Avesta?. There is one in the Gatha Ahunavaiti 32.8 about Jamshid eating beef but this is rather doubtful (see "Beef Eating Plea of Jamshid" by Ilya Gersehvitch) and although the Pahlavi translator of this 32.8 opines that Jamshid favored eating beef in a measured portion, it is still not accepted by the majority of scholars.The questionable words are "gaush baga xvremno" which I and Humbach have translated as "gratifying mortals by calling himself God", which Zarathushtra considered as crime , others have translated as 'eating a portion of meat of cattle'. which Zarathushtra considered as crime. Our translation is confirmed by Shanameh where Jamshid claimed to be God and was put to death by his step brother.
Anyone who is familiar with Hindu philosophy would know that one of the Mahavakyas (great statements) of the Vedas is "Aham Brahmasmi", which literally translates to "I am God".  Is it possible that Jamshid's claim to Godhood is related to this statement from the Vedas?  We already know that Jamshid borrowed ideas related to social organization from Hinduism.  Could he have borrowed philosophical ideas as well?
Hokie Tech (talk) 00:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities to Hinduism 

message: in Turkish Böri (talk) 09:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cemşid