Talk:Amok syndrome

message: What exactly is being disputed in the article content?  If the dispute can't be summarized here, the tag should be removed. Jpatokal 07:53, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute?

message: There is an ongoing project which includes Amok, Iich'aa, Going Postal and other sudden violence events. Cabin Fever was a sudden instance of one cabin mate going berserk and attempting to kill the other during the early 1800's. This happened when trappers, mountain men, wintered over in too-small cabins.
There is no reference in the article that these other similar behaviors happen around the world but have different names.
Going Postal is listed as a slang term but it is considered a Culture Bound Syndrome of the United States.
Amok happens where traditional longhouses are used. Entire villages living in single-room housing provide many opportunities for exposure to Visual Subliminal Distraction.
It is rare because of the masive exposure required to cause the psychiatric effect.
Like Jumping Frenchmen of Maine, Amok is disappearing as those crowded too-close longhouse living arrangements disappear,
The project site (URL below) has links that are too numerous to use in a Wikipedia article.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Culture_Bound_Syndromes.htm
There is a psychology demonstration that will allow you to experience 'habituation to extinction' of awareness of movement in Subliminal Peripheral Vision.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/a_demonstration_you_can_do.htm
L K Tucker 20:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amok, Iich'aa Going postal 

message: Please note that the article's references to the custom of Zamorin committing suicide is absolutely fictitious. I live in Malabar. Zamorin dynasty figures in our folklore. Nothing of this kind is ever said to have happened, either by the historians or in the orally transferred lore of the land.
Savemalayalam 16:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to Malabar and Zamorin are grossly erroneous 

message: 'The observations of Skeat about the Malay race are not unique since berserker myths . . . '
As a historian specialising in Norse history, I can guarantee you that berserkers were not mythical. I am altering this sentence. SynthesiseD 04:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence amendment 

message: Any thoughts on etymology? I wonder if amok is related to 7mok in Arabic, pronounced like "hammock" with the second syllable emphasized. Mashford 14:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derivation 

message: Do school shootings really qualify as "running amok". Most of those are planned well in advance, with the shooters calm throughout the episode. thx1138 (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent recurrence

message: Amok, a Culture Bound Syndrome, is defined as sudden violence after a period of brooding. In modern society that would include the opportunity to plan the violence. 
VisionAndPsychosis.Net argues that the beliefs that lead up to the sudden explosion are or can be delusional. Normal interactions are seen as threatening or evidence of persecution. This is from the outcome of Subliminal Distraction exposure, which can be seen in the mental events of Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga. Both exercises have mental breaks associated with them for about 3000 years. Although the participants believe supernatural forces cause the mental events they correctly record the symptoms. To find this list Google either exercise with the filter of problems, mental events, or psychotic break. There are several large sites for the exercises that chronicle this aspect of seeking enlightenment.
L K Tucker69.1.46.205 (talk) 18:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amok current occurrences 

message: It sounds like "amuck" is a variant of the transliteration "amuk" (as Webster's Collegiate suggests: var. of amok) but it also has in English the ring of folk etymology, especially in the context of running. Long before i saw any 4-letter spelling, i understood "amuck" as a-muck ("a-" meaning on, in, at, in (such) a state or condition, in (such) a manner, in the act or process of) and thus an analog of "asea", "abuzz", and probably ultimately "aware" (AKA "wary"), abed, afire, aloud, a-hunting, and atingle. And i saw "to run amuck" as evoking a wheeled vehicle (perhaps usually  horse-drawn) running (perhaps evoking carelessness including excessive speed) into muck or mire, and getting that vehicle, and perhaps the draft animals, hopelessly "bogged down" (assuming i'm right about the origin of "bogged").   Just as "going postal" evokes the frustration of repetitive work, dead-end jobs, and/or ineffective personnel management, i think i viewed "running amuck" as evoking the frustration of an unmanageable enmirement, and any hint of violence as opposed to inextricability as explained by "snapping" and lashing out in the face of frustration. Bottom line: i'd like to hear what Dictionary of American Regional English has to say about its regional dependences -- is my picture of its role in English more common in areas where bad roads and draft animals have more slowly been remedied? I'm calling not for OR, but for gathering evidence that may justify hunting down explicit expert assertions of a happy (or confusing) coincidence between "amuk" and "a-muck".--Jerzy•t 20:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Running, and "to run amuck" 

message: Regardless of spelling, amuk or amuck, the expression as commonly used in American speech is far removed from its original Malay significance. Probably introduced to the English language by British imperialists and explorers who witnessed this display. Likely from the onset its usage in England was popularized by elitist armchair anthropologists and writers who perceived both the odd-sounding word and the ritual itself with snobbish visual humor as a novel expression for 'uncivilized and savage native behavior' and so letting it become a humorous way to describe any system, machine, animal or person gone haywire or 'off its hinges'.
Since this last usage is by far the common understanding of the expression among Americans, it should be listed first for hurried searchers who often don't read past a 'top' definition.  
I also speak German. In that language this same expression is used, but quite expressly with its original element of murder.
If a German, for example, checks this Wiki page for its appropriate use in American English, this page gives a serious picture more akin to 'going postal' rather than its far more well-known and common usage as something having gotten out of control and often in a humorous way.
Mykstor (talk) 22:03, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hrmm, when I grew up in the U.S. whenever anyone referred to "going to run amok" it just meant simply "going to run around" and had no violent, threatening mannerism to it at all. I was quite shocked to find it's real meaning.—  dain- talk   23:26, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

text: These concerns seem to relate to original research and gut-feeling.137.111.13.200 (talk) 03:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I suggest switching this entry's first two paragraphs 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Running amok. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20131005211333/http://www.as.ua.edu/ant/ant100/pdf/MedicalAnthropology.pdf to http://www.as.ua.edu/ant/ant100/pdf/MedicalAnthropology.pdf
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 10:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified