Talk:Saqaliba

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The article says it's a term for "Soldiers of fortune from western and eastern Europe", but a Google search turned up nothing.Senori 02:24, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Note: the above comment was removed by user 216.165.38.142, who also added the comment below. — Knowledge Seeker দ (talk) 03:46, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Reverted. The fact that russians cannot make chinese from japanese does not invalidate the fact that  arabs could not make russians from poles. Not to say that this observation is important in the article's context. `'mikka (t) 17:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dbachmann's deletion

message: Ibrahim ibn Yaqub placed the people of "Saqalib" in the mountainous regions of Central Balkans, west of the Bulgarians and east from the "other Slavs" (Croats), thus in the Serb lands. The Saqalib had the reputation of being "the most courageous and violent".[2]
You have forgotten the Slovens men!
And Ibrahim ibn Yaqub means surely not just Serb lands.
That´s includes also Croat land!--Zrin22 (talk) 20:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: west from bulgarians and east from the other slavs could only mean Macedonia. there are no other slavs west from slovenia and bosnia and serbia.89.205.2.29 (talk) 22:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  thus in the Serb lands? 

message: "Theophanes mentions that the Umayyad caliph Muawiyah I settled a whole army of 5,000 Slavic mercenaries in Syria in the 660s." In 660s arabic muslim Ummayyad caliph?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.23.10.156 (talk) 22:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong date

message: This term is cited as not fully explained in the article text, yet surely this is a reference to Carantanians, or derived from the name of the territory known as Carantania - inhabitants of the borderlands of present-day Northern Slovenia, Croatia and Austria in the period of the early Slavic settlement.  This population would have been multi-ethnic, consisting not solely of Slavic tribes, but also remnants of the many earlier peoples who 'passed through' this territory during the Late Roman and Migration Periods, e.g. Sarmatians, Avars, Bulgars, Goths and groups from other Germanic tribes.  'Illyrians' (i.e. Albanians) and Greeks would almost certainly have featured among the slave population: the Arab slavers would have sought their human goods from all along the northern coasts of the Mediterranean, the Adriatic and the Aegean and their many islands. 86.162.246.47 (talk) 14:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Artanians

message: Te word refers not only to Balkan Slavs but also to other Europeans who were kidnapped by slave traders, or captured in war periods, even from as far north as Iceland.
Here is the resource:
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/history/conant/mushin1998. It is very well referenced  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.242.0 (talk) 20:42, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Saqaliba comes from "Siqlabi" and means "Slavic laborers". How come you omit Poland in your description if it is clearly stated that those Slavs of darker skin are nearer the sea ("west of the Bulgarians and east from the other Slavs" meaning they have to be Serbs) while those of more fair skin are further inland (Poles and Rusyns)? Since when North-Western Europeans (Germanics), and South-Western Europeans (Romanics) are Slavs? 192.162.150.105 (talk) 07:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term Saqaliba refers to ALL Europeans (Balkans, Italy, Iberia - Spain and Portugal, France, Britain, Ireland...) captured in wars or in peace from European coasts 

message: When did this practice occur? During certain dynasties or throughout the period of the whole Ottoman Empire? Was it done by Arab countries outside of the Empire? Right now, while descriptive, there is no historical context that even provides a century when this practice occurred. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context? 

message: rv'd edit containing the following:
:Arab word Saqaliba could also come from much older Persian therm Saka. Saka or Saqaliba are known to babylonians as Gomer or Cimmerians or Celts. 
No source listed, no Google hits. Needs a source. -Senori (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of term 

message: The Arabic word Saqaliba did not mean "slave." This word referred to the inhabitants of eastern Europe (wither they were Slavic, Turkic, Uralic, etc.). The Volga Bulghar king was called by Ibn Fadlan "King of the Saqaliba." He obviously did not mean "King of the slaves." The slavery tag on this article is misleading and should be removed.--HD86 (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Saqaliba, despite meaning "the Slavic workers", became the term to describe the SLAVic SLAVes, because the Muslims saw ALL Slavs as potential Slaves. 192.162.150.105 (talk) 10:47, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slavery template should be removed 

message: It ts deemed that the Saqaliba were mostly Poles and Serbs. The geographical descriptions perfectly fit to the territories of East-Central Europe and South-Eastern Europe. 192.162.150.105 (talk) 11:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastimated regions of Saqaliba origin