Talk:List of industrial engineers

message: I removed Drew Brees from the listing on this page as his degree from Purdue was from the Krannert School of Management in Industrial Management and Manufacturing.  This is a distinct and different program than it's school of Industrial Engineering. If his degree had been in Industrial Engineering, then I would not have done so. --Terrilyn 17:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drew Brees

message: I propose removing Arthur Andersen from this list.  Neither his article nor his firm's confirm that he was qualified in, or practiced industrial engineering.  Arthur Andersen is, of course, well known in industry for management training but this is not the same thing.  The only mention I can find is the ref for both articles states,
: . . . an industrial engineering group was created within the firm in 1918 to investigate the strengths and weaknesses of a company’s financial and management position, and to offer services to correct the weaknesses.
That is, as the article says, they were giving operational advice to companies based on accountancy principles.  The man is still essentially an accountant, not an engineer.  This is another example of this article confusing industrial management with industrial engineering.  I will leave it in the article for a while longer to see if anyone else has any thoughts on this. SpinningSpark 09:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Spot on. I've removed Arthur E. Andersen from this list. — Satori Son 13:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Andersen 

message: I have added a fact tag to the entry for Henry Ford. The article on him does not state that he is an industrial engineer. I tried to google him and find a reference which defined him as an industrial engineer and could not find one. I recognize that he is credited with inventing the production line. Unless a reference is provided that says he is an industrial engineer, it may be original research to call him one here.</br>I also offer up this reference Henry Ford: critical evaluations in business and management By John Cunningham Wood. Quote: "So (Henry) Ford provided the vision and leadership, Sorensen the experiment, Avery the industrial engineering, and Klann supervised construction, with O'Connor supervising assembly."</br>Given this publication which say he was not the "industrial engineer" behind the invention of the production line, why is he on this list? An in-line citation is requested to support keeping him here. Thanks - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 01:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The difficulty here is that "Industrial Engineer" as a vocation as it is recognised today, did not really exist in the 1900s when the Model T was being produced.  There were no degrees in Industrial Engineering, although doubtless the term can be found being used in a loose sense.  There is no doubt that Ford was an engineer, though not a formally educated one.  There also can be little doubt that he transformed industrial engineering.  But if you need a firm citation, how about "Here in Detroit we have a great manufacturing financier and industrial engineer. I speak of Henry Ford." from the Society of Industrial Engineers, 1922. SpinningSpark 17:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henry Ford 

message: What's about people who weren't especially trained as industrial engineers but are well known as inventors or authors in that area? I think about people like Gavriel Salvendy, Marvin E. Mundel, Burrhus Frederic Skinner, Abraham Maslow, Frederick Herzberg, Douglas McGregor, James Womack, Daniel Jones, Daniel Roos, etc. -- Tasma3197 (talk) 09:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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