Talk:Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst

message: I still feel that the format of this name is wrong at best for an article title. Chlodwig was the Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst rather than a Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst. Furthermore, Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst used to be a territory, there in English, of would be used in conjunction with the title prince. I feel that the article should be at Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst firstly because it is the format for heads of houses and a second choice at Chlodwig zu Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst, which is the form used by all other titled Chancellors of Germany (the distinction being that they were not mediatized), with the exception of Prince Max of Baden, who was the member of a reigning grand ducal house. Charles 18:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that this is still a discussable issue for the naming of the article, if anyone would like to comment. Charles 22:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What I really want is an identifiable naming standard for German nobility, both mediatized and unmediatized.  I'm not convined that Hohenlohe should be treated either as a ruling prince or as a mere standard nobleman.  In terms of him as the Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst, I'm not sure if that should matter - Bismarck was certainly the Prince of Bismarck, and Metternich was the Prince of Metternich-Winneburg.  Not sure what exactly should be done.  john k 01:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An identifiable standard for German nobility is terribly difficult to formulate. The best I feel can be done for now is to treat each person case by case, with any other applicable naming conventions, and then see if any patterns arise. Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst was, at one point, a territory... That is a difference seperating it from Bismarck. Otto is not at Prince Otto von Bismarck, yet Choldwig is at Prince Chlodwig zu Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst (they are both 'the' Prince). An applicable standard that has been practiced is to append the titles of heads of houses to the end of their name, if they are formerly sovereign. Chlodwig has been described as "Prince Hohenlohe", but if we are to include the whole thing, I feel it should be in a form consistent with the naming of other royals and nobles. Charles 01:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't thinking that we need a single way that all articles on German nobility should be named.  Just that we should have some kind of guidelines. john k 16:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you could draft something up, I would add my thoughts to it. Charles 17:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was don't move, and await outcome of NC proposal. —Nightstallion (?) 12:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name 

message: this is the same Marie who was in Franz Liszt's household for a decade, whose mother was his mistress, etc., yes? (Part of the story of Chlodwig and Marie's marriage, from a particular point of view, and its consequences for Carolyne- Marie's mother's - eventually successful attempts to get her earlier marriage annulled... is told in the second volume of a recent Liszt biography by Alan Walker, if so...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 18:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Marie- 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "eb":
From Wilhelm Solf: 
From Friedrich Ebert: 
From Georg von Hertling: 
From Gottlieb von Jagow: 
From Adolf Marschall von Bieberstein: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 19:05, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst]]