Talk:Combined Cadet Force

message: In my experience, there are no Adult Sergeant Major Instructor (SMI) or Regimental Sergeant Instructor (RSMI) ranks/titles in the CCF. They do exist in the ACF. I propose that they are removed. The only time such ranks would be worn, is when the SSI is ex-Army/Royal Marines and has reached the WO2/WO1 rank.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbo194 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Adult NCO ranks

message: not a schoolVictuallers 19:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reassess - importance changed to mid as so many important schools in the UK link to it.Victuallers 16:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project assessments 

message: I'm not sure why the Stowe Patrol Competition needs such a large mention on a page about the CCF in general. Very few schools compete, and indeed seeing as it's an annual competition, having the 2004 results seems doubly unnecessary (I think Haileybury won 2005). It seems rather like having a list of teams that at some point competed the Heineken Cup on the page about rugby. I think that at the very least it should be moved to its own article, or at best removed entirely. Ejgm 04:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stowe patrol 

message: I left the CCF twenty years ago, so things may have changed, but several parts of the section on ranks conflict with the situation in my contingent. Can anyone confirm that these are accurate and if so possibly when they changed?
*Contingent Sergeant Major: There was no such rank in my day - Army Sections were headed by an RSM or a JUO.
*The RAF Section doesn't recognise JUOs: Definitely did - all three sections in my last year were headed by a JUO, with an RSM, CWO and Cadet Coxswain as deputy in each case.
*JUOs are addressed as "Sir" - addressed by us as JUO, as in OTCs.
*SUOs: didn't exist in the CCF.
I'm interested in any info anyone may have. -- Necrothesp 10:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey there, to awnser your questions, in order:
1) CSM, much the same as COMPANY Sergeant Major, is the rank held by the senior NCO of any contingent of the correct size (Company) it is therefore generally reserved for larger, compulsory CCF's. RSM is the same, there MIGHT be one RSM per LARGE school such as Duke Of Yorks. However, many CCF's unfortunately flout these rules, and you see 40 strong contingents with 3 CSM's and an RSM, or something silly. Under officer is more an instructors rank, held by someone who has left the CCF as they left school, but wished to come back and teach more.
2) The RAF indeed do not recognise UO's, they legally do not exist, the title is a curtesy appointment to an NCO who has left and returned to teach, or is more centered on admin than anything else. The section should be led by a brace os Sgts, or Flight Sgts.
3) UO's are indeed addressed as Sir.
4) Never heard of SUO, nor is there an official rank for it, but i would suggest it too is a curtesy appointment to the most senior UO in the detatchment. Teta (talk) 19:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions re ranks 

message: What is the implication of the Combined Cadet Force with regard to the Optional protocol on the involvement of children in armed conflict? – Kaihsu (talk) 16:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankly none. It is a voluntary organisation for the most part (thereby voiding the compulsorily recruited clause in the protocol). In the cases where it is compulsory, it is important to make the distinction between the armed forces and the CCF. The CCF is a uniformed organisation run by the MOD, yet it is not a part of the armed forces. In no circumstances would they become involved in hostilities so actually this protocol has no implications for the CCF. (That said, I am no lawyer and have not had any access to the protocol.) Woody (talk) 16:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Maproom is right. I think it is compulsory pretty much everywhere, and anyone who doesn't want to opt in will probably get given a hard time as a result. I suppose it's a good way of weeding out subversives and pacifists early in life too.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not compulsory in my school, and almost everyone in each year joins anyway. It's fun and is focused more on teambuilding and discipline than "weeding out subversives and pacifists". Perhaps you do not know what you're talking about? 90.206.126.228 (talk) 21:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A protocol of the Convention for the Rights of the Child 

message: While I have not had much exposure to the CCF, I am certain that the rank of Leading Hand is equal to Corporal, not Sergeant? Likewise, Petty Officers are equal in rank to Sergeants, not Staff/Colour/Flight Sergeants. DSA_Ratu (talk) 21:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the ranks as they currently stand are correct. However, because CCF ranks may not always mirror service ranks, it would be worthwhile getting a conclusive answer on this. --Chachu207 talk to me 22:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have made the adjustment for Cadet Coxswain, they are the head of the navy section and hence are equivalent to the head of the RAF or Army section (WO and RSM respectively).Henry.pearson (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cadet Ranks

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