Talk:Military robot

message: in the televison section of the fiction part, battlebots and robot wars should not be there because they shouldn't be considered fiction. --Nick Scratch 20:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiction section 

message: # Article could be subdivided into air, land and sea. Explain how environmental differences affect these areas, i.e. air less complex than sea, which is less complex than land. Air would mainly link to the unmanned aerial vehicle article as it does now, others need much expanding:
#* sea could include remotely operated vehicles and torpedoes -- notably the CAPTOR mine, currently TTBMK the only armed robot which operates a weapon autonomously;
#* land needs to greatly beef up bomb disposal robots -- the grandaddy of them all, and overwhelmingly the most common type, yet currently get just one line.
# More information on differences between remotely operated vehicles, ROVs with autonomous modes, and truly autonomous vehicles (TTBMK CAPTOR is the only example of the latter, although one could draw a long bow at missiles and torpedoes being rather single-minded autonomous vehicles);
# Control systems for remotely operated vehicles;
# The developments section needs serious rework, and referencing. Unless someone can show me refs, I remain to be convinced that Defense contractors in the USA are hard at work developing autonomous "robot soldiers". Certainly none of the given refs indicate any such thing, and the current state of the art in machine intelligence is a long way from reliable locomotion in random terrain, never mind reliable target identification. Current armed robots may have autonomous motion (although rarely, and even then only on restricted terrain types), but they all have human controlled weapons. On the other hand, apart from this pie-in-the-sky autonomous weapons control, no other developments are mentioned.
-- Securiger 06:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If a robot were to be given autonomy in the decision to fire its weapon it would be a violation of Azimov's First Law of Robotics and the thin edge of the wedge that would inevitably lead to the type of situation depicted in the Terminator films. Do current military robot designers/researchers take such issues in to consideration? Another problem with giving a robot "fire authority" is, who does one prosecute in the event of a wrongful death incident? Roger 20:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some thoughts on work required 

message: I am new to Wikipedia and would like to understand why a link I submitted (http://www.studysphere.com/Site/Sphere_11677.html) to the "External Links" section was deleted? This directory has over 3,000 human selected articles and Military Robotics resources in it. Thank you for any assistance.Bbowenjr 12:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a hint: studysphere.com links have been campaign-spammed to Wikipedia; see 29 November 2006 discussion at WT:WPSPAM. Bbowenjr added them to a wide range of articles from Dental implants to Military robots. There's been a misconception among some spamdexers that if they get a link deleted they can question the deletion on the talk page and still get the page rank benefit; this is wrong since all Wikipedia talk and user page links are automatically coded with the html tag rel="nofollow"; search engine bots don't follow these links. --A. B. 23:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Submission Question 

message: In the issues section, the following text is found:
"In literature, a play published in 1921, 'Rossum's Universal Robots' by Czech writer Karel Capek, tells the story of how people built better and better robots until they finally built robots to fight wars. In the end, the robots decide that fighting is crazy, and take over the world. This idea has since become a common staple of fiction in books, films and television and is entirely possible given current technological advancement."
Imho, the "is entirely possible" comment either needs to be given a foundation in fact or a source, or it needs to be removed. Without that, it is mere speculation and thus should not be in wikipedia. -- Mercury271 09:00 31-10-2006 (UTC)
This issue was addressed and the "entirely possible" part was removed -- Mercury271 08:00 2-10-2006 (UTC)
=== Fiction section ===
# Really, Asimov's stories include some examples of military robots. But he was the main opponent of theirs in literuture! His mention here is mitakenely.
# Film fiction section isn't correct: for example, I've never seen any military robots in AI film. There was no robots in 2001 Odyssey—HAL 9000 was a supercompeter.—217.106.171.43 12:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues needs editing 

message: # Really, Asimov's stories include some examples of military robots. But he was the main opponent of theirs in literuture! His mention here is mitakenely.
# Film fiction section isn't correct: for example, I've never seen any military robots in AI film. There was no robots in 2001 Odyssey—HAL 9000 was a supercompeter.—217.106.171.43 12:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiction section 

message: would it be a good idea to add a picture to the picture section (such as that of a b-1 battle droid)? 67.35.181.167 06:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture under fiction 

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message: The "Issues" section of the article only talks about the benefits of war robots, more specifically, a man's quotes that praise war robots. I suggest that the section either be deleted or be cleaned up. Montgomery' 39 (talk) 20:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no reason to remove the quote from Major Kenneth Rose though the section could be improved by expanding it so that it covers more issues. --GrandDrake (talk) 06:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with Issues 

message: This Israeli site: [Haaretz] claims that With self-detonating grenades, thinking bullets and robot warriors, humans on the frontline could soon be a thing of the past.Agre22 (talk) 18:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Israel's military avatar: Robots on the battlefield

message: http://chronicle.com/article/Moral-Robots-the-Future-of/134240/ User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Important article

message: "Experiments with electromechanical computers (endomecanique) carried out in 1938 by Francois Dussaud. Dussaud ordered from SATME (a company building railroad equipment) an "endomechanical" truck.
This vehicle was controlled by a programmable automaton using two separate perforated bands of paper constituting "separate memories" which alternated according to information supplied by a photo-electric sensor or the front bumper.
This true mechanical computer enabled the vehicle to follow a pre-determined path (the base program which enabled such functions as "start, stop, move away, move back, hoot") or upon sensing an obstacle to avoid it (using the alternate program).
Endomechanics were also applied to a boat experimented on the lake of Geneva. The 1938 article also points out that endomechanics can be applied to torpedoes, tanks or recon airplanes.
Endomechanics as an early form of computer science was defined as an extended program automaticity which manoeuvres in function of the path encountered and not in function of the time elapsed."
(Source: sciences and vie 1938)
http://i59.tinypic.com/2igesl2.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.223.119 (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Dussaud autonomous robot vehicle 

message: "This electrical ground torpedo was proposed (probably in 1915) by Aubriot and Gabet. The machine could carry 200kg of explosive material in the enemy trenches. It was fed by two electrical wires behind it. It was probably guided by clutching in or out the side tracks. After the war it was not series produced... yet it anticipates remarkably the world war two era Goliath!"
http://i58.tinypic.com/34iobgx.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.223.119 (talk) 18:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Aubriot-Gabet ground torpedo 

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message: The 2016 shooting of Dallas police officers was the first time in U.S. history a police robot was used to deliver lethal force. Do we have an article for police robots, or only military? -- GreenC 19:49, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: This article mentions a robot called "Shomer Gvouloth", but I can't find any information about this robot elsewhere (from a Google search). Is any other information available about this robot, or is its name misspelled here? Jarble (talk) 20:41, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several articles in Hebrew about it, e.g. https://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3697502,00.html , it is also known as Segev or Border Guardian and maybe different transcripts of שומר גבולות will yield results in English. MathKnight  03:21, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  See also this IDF Video and pause the frame on the "Segev Vehicle" (In Hebrew "Segev" is שג"ב, the acronym of "שומר גבולות", "Border Keeper"). MathKnight  19:07, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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