Talk:Kongsi

message: I was writting articles for Secret societies in Singapore when I discovered that there are conflicting definition of what these terms mean. The content in this article, for example, has content largely attributed by a Singaporean book I referenced from to the concept of Hui (会), a much brother term refering to brotherhood and kinship in Chinese culture, or to the Chinese clan (Huiguan), particular when it comes to societies linked by a common surname. Kongsi, on the other hand, is a term considered more attributed to Southeast Asian usage, and has been closely related to secret societies. Are the current content in the various pages verifiable?--Huaiwei 06:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A "Hui", "Kongsi" or "Chinese clan"?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello again everyone, 
I recently mentioned some additions I would be making to this article. I will be working along side Marcus Tong to develop this article extensively within the next couple of weeks. I will copy and past the article into my sandbox and I will be working on it from there. If you want to know how its going, make suggestions or want to add something to the article please let me know on my sandbox. 
Thank you,
Ronyaguilar (talk) 02:04, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modifying the article on my talk sandbox  

message: Hello everyone, 
  
After further analysis of the subject and countless hours of research me and @Mtong14 have come to the conclusion that this article needs deletions to it rather than additions. The reason for this change is because we have realized that the term Kongsi in this particular article has different meanings and in reality it is only a term previously used in southeast Asia. Therefore we need to separate this article from what it is currently linked to in hopes of clearing up much of the misunderstandings provided here. Please let me or @Mtong14 know if you disagree with any of the changes we will be making.
Thank you all.
Ronyaguilar (talk) 04:54, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upcoming changes to the article 

message: Hello everyone,
I have added part of the final draft of the Kongsi article up that Mtong14 and I have been working on. We have added a variety of changes to the article in hopes of clarifying some of the conflicting terminology that is used or associated with the term Kongsi. Specifically, Kongsi does not appear to be directly related to Chinese-American organizations, but rather to Southeast Asian organizations. We wanted to remove most if not all of the information that linked the word Kongsi to another such term that was incorrectly used or linked to it at the time.  We have done this by removing the main articles pictures and changing it for something much more relevant. We also deleted the three pictures that were linked to the section titled "Functions of the Kongsi". We also cleaned up the sections and added removed conflicting information. We have removed all of the external links and replaced them with relevant links associated to Kongsi. We also removed some items from the See Also section and verified and updated references to articles or books to match the current citation style. We also added a section titled "Southeast Asia", which we believe is particularly important since it demonstrates that the term Kongsi was mainly used in that area and is different than other similar terms used now. Finally we removed the citations sections since it was redundant to use both that and the references sections for the same purpose. I hope that anyone that reads this can now how a better understanding of the term Kongsi in a way that does not conflict with other terms used and in particular we hope to show the roots that the term Kongsi had in Southeast Asia. Please do let us know if there is any information that you oppose we would love to hear your thoughts. 
Thank you and enjoy the reading. 
Ronyaguilar (talk) 18:45, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final changes to the article