Talk:TiddlyWiki

message: * preliminary discussions regarding the need to update this very dated page have resumed in the active community Google Group. 
** one preliminary task is the development of a strategy to effectively communicate the significant recent changes of the past several years.
HwO 16:48, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: 2018-08: Page enhancement discussions 

message: Focusing on such a narrow piece of the software (an unformatted edit box) is unwise. In fact, the current image may give the first-glance impression that TiddlyWiki operates in some command-line manner, with no formatting, independent page functionality, dynamic content, etc.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.114.26 (talk) 20:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The screenshot is extremely poor

message: I took out the huge link list and left only the most important. I left a link to the plugin repository that contains all of the mentioned plugins and more. Please revert if you disagree. --193.64.21.2 11:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that! --194.46.97.121 08:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: There was a recent attempt to add an overwhelming number of external links - personally, I'm hard-pressed to see significant value beyond the 1 external link to the product itself.  As a previous revert of this mass-addition stated, Wikipedia is not a directory.  Please comment if you can identify an external link that adds value to the article, but not every example and every reference guide can be shown.Cander0000 (talk) 07:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

text: The plugins repository (http://plugins.tiddlywiki.org/plugins) is a vital link. Furthermore, it should be noted that plugins like tiddlers bar can greatly alter the wiki's tiddler display paradigm. In fact, the plugin repository is so diverse that TiddlyWiki is often used as a CMS.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.114.26 (talk) 14:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: I took out the huge link list

message: Hi. Just a note here about italicizing the block quote. That seems right to me, but I haven't had time to check the guidelines on that stuff -- seems to me I've seen that done here and there. Anyway, it seems better to me. Bacrito (talk) 12:10, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  block quote 

message: I found this one that provides the same interface (and is based on TW itself) yet lives on a Apache/PHP server.
http://tiddlyhome.bidix.info/#GettingStarted  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.229.167 (talk) 12:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptations to Tiddly Wiki 

message: What is that?
85.97.171.201 (talk) 12:00, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that too, glad someone else has commented about it. It seems to be a neologism which only appears prominently on one other site, itself a wiki.  I'm not sure it's a helpful addition to the article, just confusing, so I'm going to remove it. Although I'll keep the aforementioned wiki page as a reference. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Guerilla wiki" 

message: I removed a mass of external links which I think blurred the message. Now, the entire article appears to link to various outside places. I am not convinced at all that all these external links are necessary. Anthere (talk) 19:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Links to other websites

message: * Tags are fundamentally important to the development and use of TiddlyWiki.  Therefore, I am thinking of adding a supporting section to the page in the near future (early 2017). 
* Extensive support for many natural languages may also worth noting.
HwO 13:50, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Enhancement thoughts

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on TiddlyWiki. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20150124055113/http://tiddlywiki.com:80/editions/translators/ to http://tiddlywiki.com/editions/translators/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 09:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on TiddlyWiki. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100527164201/http://itw.bidix.info:80/ to http://itw.bidix.info/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 09:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  Maintenance and rating of JavaScript articles 

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thread_title:  Rating JavaScript articles 

message: I think the Plugins section should be moved to the Applications section. The Plugins section is pretty short and the content that is there wouldn't be out of place in the Applications section. Mokadoshi (talk) 13:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Applications and Plugins sections 

message: The article contains a lot of original research and needs to be cleaned up. It seems to be the worst in the File Saving section. I've had to remove references that don't support the article's claims. For example, a reference to the ActiveX FileSystemObject documentation doesn't support the claim that TiddlyWiki uses it to save the file for Internet Explorer. Same goes for the MDN article on Mozilla File I/O - doesn't have anything to do with TiddlyWiki. Honestly it might be that this whole section just needs to be deleted for being undue weight.
Besides the original research, the article relies heavily on primary sources. But it has already been said that this may be due to the "guerilla wiki" aspect of the subject. Still, I've tried to replace primary sources with reliable secondary sources when I've found some.
Lastly, it looks like the article's most active editor is someone who has disclosed a relationship with the article's subject. Care should be taken to make sure the article has a neutral point of view clear of any conflicts of interest. Mokadoshi (talk) 13:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about cleaning up the File Saving section, and sympathise with the problem of OR within the topic. I do want to note though that your first removal in this edit block was https://atlas-disciplines.unige.ch/, stating "Remove WP:OR - source does not mention TiddlyWiki" - but it does in fact mention TiddlyWiki - albiet not in the rendered page, but it's credited as being run on TiddlyWiki multiple times in the first few lines of the source (including multiple meta tags). I think that page has value as being a great example of an applied Tiddlywiki online - something that is otherwise quite rare due to the nature of the software.   …/NemoThorx (💬 • 📜) 13:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I knew that the web page used Tiddlywiki since I did check the source before removing the sentence. But since the web page does not explicitly mention Twiddlywiki, it's still OR. If you're asking someone to view the page source and understand what different tags mean, which requires specialized knowledge, that's OR by definition. The page should clearly state the fact being cited, see WP:PROVEIT:  Even better, we should use a reliable independent reference to support the claim, like an interview with a Tiddlywiki expert unaffiliated with the site. Without that, I'll have to insist on the claim being removed. Mokadoshi (talk) 13:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: hmm, fair enough. I feel given the nature of tiddlywiki that it may be one of those areas that strictly adhering to no OR actually hurts the article quality. But that's only presented as idle thought, not a declaration of editwar or anything  …/NemoThorx (💬 • 📜) 13:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 2024