Talk:Avi Weiss

message: I think it's time to re-create a separate article for Open Orthodoxy. It's quite notable in it's own right, it's larger than Avi Weiss, and he's not even head of YCT anymore. Costatitanica (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Please tell me why nobody talks about the Jews that were killed by Stalin? Is it because he didn’t keep books on it 2601:58B:880:13CC:E0B1:AAFB:E81F:8A1A (talk) 13:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Open Orthodoxy should get it's own article

message: I took out the Torah uMaddah for 3 reasons- 
#Rav Avi avoids anything that sounds too limiting and intellectual. 
# He does not want to reduce his ideology to another Norman Lamm
# The article Open Orthodoxy does not use the phrase nor does his other writings- he likes to say "Everything can be made holy"
Criticism?
The section called
"Distinction from Union for Traditional Judaism"
should be removed from here or from Open Orthodoxy. It is not based on an outside source but is you own opinion. The differences can be expamined in many other ways.--Jayrav 17:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the article implies this is the only difference, it can be changed. But the whole point of UTJ, which David Weiss HaLivni championed, plastered on its website and published in multiple places, is that UTJ combines a fully critical view of the origins of the classical texts -- Documentary Hypothesis and all -- with what it regards as a rigorous approach to the halachic process, while OO claims a traditional view of the origin of the Torah plus what it regards as a rigorous approach to the halachic process. UTJ believes in Chate'u Israel, OO doesn't. Are you disputing this? Best, --Shirahadasha 18:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Torah uMaddah

message: The result of the recent vote was to merge the Open Orthodoxy article into this Avi Weiss article, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open Orthodoxy (21 Nov, '06). I have already done this earlier , posting the entire Open Orthodoxy article here in full. IZAK 02:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Open Orthodoxy merged into Avi Weiss article per VfD

message: We have gone through this last month and there is record at Modern Orthodoxy:talk.
Please stop vandalising with a defamation blog.--Jayrav 17:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If done for the first time this doesn't meet the definition of WP:Vandalism since it can be interpreted as a sincere effort to improve the enyclopedia and per WP:BITE we don't assume newcomers to be up on the fine details of the WP:RS policy let alone WP:BIO. However, for repeaters who've already had it explained to them, it's a different matter. Best, --Shirahadasha 18:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: I believe the blog at openorthodoxy.com is a worthwhile source to include in the external links. It contains many critiques of Open Orthodoxy that have sources from legitmate publications (with no ad hominem attacks etc). As for it being simply a blog, the topic of Avi Weiss/Open Orthodoxy is not going to have major coverage especially the critiques of it as the topic is small to begin with. To simply mention that there are those that disagree is a good idea in any piece of a religious movement, Mr. Einhorn's blog has done this in depth up until recently, and I do not believe there is more legitmate critique to be found online. For this reason, I think that the link should be included. I hope this finds the eyes of those who can do something about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.227.244.248 (talk • contribs).
Removed the link since it is now blogspam and has nothing to do with the matter at hand. 110.50.73.2 (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Offering of Criticism in "Avi Weiss"

message: Here is how Rabbi Weiss is Rabbi Willig's cousin:
Rabbi Weiss's father (Rabbi Moshe Weiss) is the older brother of Rabbi Willig's mother (Ella Willig nee Weiss z"l).
Is that a good enough source? Happy138 20:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cousin 

message: This article is the result of a merger of multiple articles, including the former Open Orthodoxy. Because it also serves as the article on Avi Weiss's philosphy and other elements, it won't necessarily read according to what Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography might consider to be ideal biography standards. Personal data and images are nice and editors are welcome to add them, but I think it appropriate that past work on this article has stressed Avi Weiss's philosophy and activities. Best, --Shirahadasha 22:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status as Biography 

message: I've deleted the trivia section on multiple occasions now for two main reasons. Firstly, it is entirely unsourced, and as such, is required to be removed per wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people, which states:
:Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space.
(I am obviously discussing it right now because starting a revert war is in not in anyone's best interest). 
Secondly, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such abhors trivia sections. The MoS clearly states that trivia sections are to be avoided. Trivia sections are frequently used as a crutch for new articles. This article is actually fairly large and fairly good, and has been worked on by numerous editors. Please stop bringing down the article by adding a trivia section. If any of the information in the trivia section is useful, then it should be sourced and added into the article in the appropriate place as prose, not a list. 
If you wish to add the trivia section back, please make sure that you have addressed these issues and adhere to wikipedia policy before doing so. --Bachrach44 14:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia 

message: Do we want to create new articles for Sara Hurowitz and/or the title MaHaRat?  Joe407 (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  See Sara Hurwitz. Joe407 (talk) 21:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin off articles 

message: Substaintial work is needed here - Weiss was very well known pre the most recent Rabbah debate - and this rabbah debate seems to have a ton of esoteric non relevant matters being debated here.  A lot of work needed and assistance appreciated. Jonathangluck (talk) 04:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Work Needed 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Hi. Is there a rule saying that U.S. American born Orthodox rabbis have Hebrew native names, defined as "the person's name in their own language, if different"? Personally, I think this is very odd, particularly as it is in the infobox. Ever heard of the antisemitic canard about dual loyalties? Or am I exaggerating? --Ajnem (talk) 10:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native name 

message: The following material was recently deleted from the page:
Sarah Berger, writing for The Moment Magazine, speculates that Open Orthodoxy may be on its way to becoming a new denomination in Judaism.http://www.yated.com/a-tale-of-two-worlds.0-231-0-.html
This is legitimate material that directly concerns the subject matter of the page and should be restored.  Council2 (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If it was published by Moment magazine, source it to them and not to a blog. I looked at Moment's website but I couldn't find any such article. (Of course it's possible that it appeared in the print magazine and wasn't posted on the website.) Also, it belongs in the section on Open Orthodoxy, not the lead. 107.10.236.42 (talk) 12:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moment magazine 

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message: Some time has passed since Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Open_Orthodoxy, when the options were mostly DELETE or MERGE into Avi Weiss. Now the merged text is largely a dup of Open Orthodoxy & YCT.
Since the Avi Weiss material is duplicative of the other articles, it's time to DeDup. Pi314m (talk) 15:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: DeDup

message: The article states that “”Open Orthodox", [is]a term he coined to describe an offshoot of Judaism…”
This makes it sound that open orthodoxy is not even a part of Judaism.  Conservative and reform for example are never described as “offshoots from Judaism.”  OO is a group within orthodoxy, conceivably an offshoot from modern orthodoxy, although I think it would be more accurate to call it a branch within modern orthodoxy. 45.21.47.33 (talk) 23:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: See this edit, which I believe addresses your concerns. StonyBrook (talk) 10:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording