Talk:Raku ware

message: Under the section "Oxidation reduction", it starts by stating "In raku firing, the aluminium container acts as a reduction tube"
This needs an explanation - it has no mention in the article before, i.e. what container, why aluminium, what process ?, is the container a substitute for a kiln ?
It could begin e.g. "Raku is fired in a metal container, mostly made of aluminium .... etc
For someone who has no previous knowledge of Raku, like me, it needs to be better explained. Thanks
this section of "oxidation reduction" should be included under "western firing". this is not a technique from the original japanese tradition.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.209.194 (talk) 04:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aluminium container not explained 

message: I was reading the information about Raku and didn't see any reference to Raku's techinique origins in Korea and history prior to Japan.
Raku has its roots actually "originating in Korea". It was brought to Japan  by a Korean potter known as "Amenya"..and that latter changed his name to "Masakichi" when he settled in Kyoto..it was his wife" " Teirin" and later by her Son(Sen No Rikio)Chorjiro who after taking over his kiln after his death, made a sucess of it in Kyoto. Facts are the technique was "Imported" to Japan and it was created earlier then the 16th century in Korea.Little seems to be said about the technique being brought "back"..by artistians of Korean origin and Imported after invasions and trips to Korea and China, then adopted..by the buddhist Monks in Japan who further developed it.(1)
"Much of Japan's borrowing from China came via Korea and often reflected Korean adaptation of Chinese culture.   The process was especially important in the fifth through eighth centuries. Japanese tribute missions to China during the Nara and Heian periods general traveled via Korea, often on Korean ships.The Japanese often imported Korean manufactured goods and art works which were used as models.  For example, archaeology suggests that the distinctive swords and armor of the samurai are probably of Korean origin.  Borrowing and influences from Korea were continuous: bonsai trees, raku ware pottery, sumo wrestling and Neo-Confucianism were imported from or influenced by Korea" 2
Ibid:
References:
1.Japan and China:Its History Arts and Literature,F. Brinkly, page 32.Volume VIII,Keramic Art 1904
http://books.google.com/books?id=u-kVAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA32&dq=raku+began+in+korea#PPP5,M1
2.Michael J. Seth
 James Madison University 
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:8xQuXFoREfkJ:www.uba.ar/ceca/download/korean-history.doc+raku+roots+in+korea&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=15&gl=us
hope you get this claified,Leaving out the facts, discounts the cultural influences of Korea on Japan's Raku and other arts and Industry..Time give credit where it is due??..
Regards, Steven S. Stamp,BFA (Ceramic's)Eastern Michigan University 93"
1/8/09  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveshrdw (talk • contribs) 06:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korea 

message: The discussion of Western raku contained some minor gaps and inaccuracies, primarily in the discussion of the firing methods and times.  This is based partially on my own experience of doing raku firings, and confirmed by further research.
Reference:  
* Peterson, Susan.  The Craft and Art of Clay.  The Overlook Press, Woodstock, NY, Second Edition 1996. .
C whitney 17:37, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an evolving western technique and our description should reflect that variability, if possible.  Every modern Raku potter, I know (including me!) does things a little differently from the next guy.  You should see some of the variations of method in our group studio alone!  We work primarily in a groggy gray stoneware and fire about 1900 degrees F, but other nearby potters work in a smooth earthenware and fire at much lower temperatures.  So, please add your information and what methods you prefer, but let's work on reflecting the flexibility of the technique for western artists.    Thanks.  WBardwin 02:42, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Raku 

message: Anyone have a nice image of a Japanese tea bowl - historic or modern?  I could probably come up with some Western raku images.  Thanks.   WBardwin 08:41, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: The only tea bowl images I have are copy-righted images from books.
If you'd like pictures of Western raku pots, we have many that you can take your pick from.  btw - thanks for differentiating between traditional and western raku techniques.  :)
 - David
 Your image identified as raku in Kiln is actually in the post combustion treatment, aka reduction step after the kiln firing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.170.102 (talk) 14:11, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Images 

message: This article needs a redo from word one.
:added link to title to clarify user's topic.  So, if you have issues, go ahead and improve our aesthetic presentation!  In my opinion, Wiki editors should come here to work.    WBardwin 06:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article lacks both [[Wabi-sabi]]wabi and sabi 

message: Shouldn't it be made known that Raku ware is NOT to be used for serving food/drink? It's gorgeous stuff, but the lead seeps out...
--Gautam3 18:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None of my glazes contain lead.  But my bodies do remain pourous, so I mark them as not food safe.  WBardwin 21:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Utility

message: I restored the introduction which had apparently been lost to vandalism.  I also restored the quotation -- which I had originally placed at the head of the article.  Objections?  Comments?  WBardwin 21:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. The quotation is unrelated to raku, and its apparent author was a master of tea and not a potter. So there is no value to its inclusion here. I vote for deletion  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.126.226.253 (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotation and introduction

message: *  Pitelka, Morgan. Handmade Culture: Raku Potters, Patrons, and Tea Practitioners in Japan. University of Hawaii Press, 2005. .
*  Hamer, Frank and Janet.  The Potter's Dictionary of Materials and Techniques. A & C Black Publishers, Limited, London, England, Third Edition 1991. .
* Peterson, Susan.  The Craft and Art of Clay. The Overlook Press, Woodstock, NY, Second Edition 1996. .
* Watkins, James C. Alternative Kilns & Firing Techniques: Raku * Saggar * Pit * Barrel, Lark Ceramics Publications, 2007. , .
* Branfman, Steven. "Raku FAQs." Ceramics Today. Ceramics Today, Sept. 2002. Web. 6 May 2010.
* Herb, Bill. "What Is Raku." Dimensional Design. Bill Herb A.k.a Dimensional Design, Jan. 2000. Web. 6 May 2010.
* Knapp, Brian J. Oxidation and Reduction. Port Melbourne, Vic.: Heinemann Library, 1998. Print.
* Birks, Tony. The New Potter's Companion. Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice Hall, 1982. Print.
*Mitchell, John.  Personal Interview.  30 Apr. 2010.
*Rhodes, Daniel.  “Special Glazes and Surface Effects.”  Clay and Glazes for the Potter.  Revised ed.
Randor: Chilton Book Company, 1973.  318.  Print.
*Zamek, Jeff. "» Glazes: Materials, Mixing, Testing, Firing." » Ceramic Arts Daily –
Featured Tip of the Day. Ceramic Publications Company, 5 Nov. 2009. Web. 26 May 2010. <http://ceramicartsdaily.org/ceramic-glaze-recipes/glaze-chemistry-ceramic-glaze-recipes-2/glazes-materials-mixing-testing-firing/?floater=99>.
*Andrews, Tim " Raku:a review of contemporary work".A.C.Black,London.1994 ISBN 0-7136836-2
*Andrews, Tim " Raku". A.C.Black, London. 2nd Ed.2005 
::The list has been added back by another user, I still think the list is a mess and mostly promotional in content.TeapotgeorgeTalk 14:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of books moved from article 

message: This section, as well as oxidation reduction firing section are wandering far from the topic of raku ware.  Information on firings might be more appropriate under an entry on kilns or firing.  No other forms or styles of ceramics in wiki have information about firings.  Additionally, the reduction firing is noted under the Western Raku section, which would be appropriate, since western-style raku is the only style that has reduction outside the kiln.  I would recommend deleting Oxidation Reduction Firing and Reduction Firing 2.  At the very least they should be brutally edited and perhaps a remaining sentence or two added to Western Raku.  If someone feels a need to have this much detail under western raku reduction firings, perhaps they could create a new entry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.209.194 (talk) 13:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reduction Firing 2 

message: Aren't Oxidation and Reduction complete opposite processes it seems like the section is only talking about reduction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyleryocum11 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxidation reduction?