Talk:Red Square

message: I don't want to be a pedant (well, just a bit) but technically it isn't a tomb, and Lenin isn't interred (that is, he isn't buried in terra). Its official name is the Lenin Mausoleum, so I changed one mention of it to that, but left the caption as tomb (which is what it's commonly know as in the west). Ol' V.I. might get interred properly soon enough, however, as his waxwork-like body is continually crumbling, so they keep talking about burying him in the Kremlin Wall. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 18:35, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: interred

message: The article in Wikipedia on Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_square) mentions that it's size is 100 acres, or 400,000 m². That would mean it's more than four times larger than Red Square in Moscow as mentioned in this article (695 meters long x 130 meters wide = 90,350 m²). So, why does the article say that Red Square is the largest city square in the world?
	 
: You're right, and I've just removed the claim, which was added by an anonymous user a couple of weeks ago. It's definitely nowhere near as large as Tiananmen Square. Worldtraveller 05:13, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Red Square really the Largest City Square in the World? 

message: The article states, without references, that the name "Red Square" derives from the relation between the Russian words for "red" and "beautiful". It also says that, prior to being called Red Square, the square was called "Pozhar" because buildings had been (implicitly intentionally) burned down to make room for it.
Russia Beyond, which is apparently owned by a Russian government state news agency, contradicts this. According to RB, red was the traditional color of the tsar’s power, and Red Square was named after the "Red Porch" staircase that led from the square to one of the tsar's palaces. RB also states that Pozhar generically refers to vacant lots, but in this case may have been a poetic reference to "the constant buzzing and hustle of the busy market square".
Meanwhile, Moscovery sticks to the "Beautiful Square" explanation, but states that Pozhar was a reference to an accidental fire in 1493. It's unclear to me how authoritative Moscovery is.
These three online articles have three conflicting explanations for the square's past and current names.  Someone should probably go to an actual library and see if there's consensus within published academia on the origins of the names.
Stephen Hui (talk) 05:41, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  More research required on the origins of the "Red Square" and "Pozhar" names 

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