Talk:Erzincan

message: The Encyclopaedia of Islam states that Köse Dağ is a “land-corridor some 50 miles/80 km. to the north-west of Sīwās” and, under “Kaykhusraw II” in the same work, “between Erzindjan and Sivas.” Cahen in Pre-Ottoman Turkey locates the battle in “the defile of Köse Dagh, in the province of Erzinjān.” My cherished Turkish atlas, Köy Köy Türkiye: Yol atlası (Istanbul 2006), puts Kösedağ Geçidi (Köse Dağ Pass) to the south of Gümüşhane and well to the north of Erzincan. In 13th century terms, this would be close to the lands of the Empire of Trebizond and nowhere near the caravan route between Sivas and Erzincan. Can anyone produce a credible source in any language that offers more precision? Thanks Aramgar 16:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The information above is corroborated by Anthony Bryer and Richard Winfield, The Byzantine Monuments and Topography of the Pontos, vol. 1, (Washington D.C.: Dumbarton Oaks, 1985) 172, 353.  Aramgar 21:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where was the [[Battle of Köse Dağ]]

message: The Armenian and Greek names, which are historical names, are mentioned in the article. But the editors placed it in the head of the article. What is the purpose of doing this? They did not specify a reason to do so. This change is now
Wikipedia:Neutral point of view violating. There are no Armenian population in the city of Erzincan. Or it is not an Armenian spoken or official language.--ArslanYabgu (talk) 12:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The alternative name is sourced and there is article content on it. Having alternative or local or historical names in the lede is an accepted practice and is seen on many articles. See WP:PLACE. The function of the lede is not to describe a place as it is now, it is there to summarize the article, and NPOV would be violated by manipulating article lede content to exclude historical data or names. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian Spelling 

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message: Should there not be mentioned in the history of the city the results of the Armenian genocide, as I read about them in the article Assassination of Talat Pasha?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Talat_Pasha
"... One of these volunteers was Soghomon Tehlirian (1896–1960) from Erzindjan, Erzurum Vilayet, a city which had 20,000 Armenian residents prior to World War I and none afterwards.[49][51]"
[49] MacCurdy 2015, pp. 172–173.
[51] MacCurdy 2015, pp. 175, 201–202.
MacCurdy, Marian Mesrobian (2015). Sacred Justice: The Voices and Legacy of the Armenian Operation Nemesis. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-351-49218-8.
Jacobs, Steven Leonard (2019). "The Complicated Cases of Soghomon Tehlirian and Sholem Schwartzbard and Their Influences on Raphaël Lemkin's Thinking About Genocide". Genocide Studies and Prevention: An International Journal. 13 (1): 33–41. doi:10.5038/1911-9933.13.1.1594. ISSN 1911-0359.
I don't want to get into it myself since I am nothing close to an expert in the field. Can anyone help?
Skimmedlatex (talk) 09:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian genocide 

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message: The paragraph under "Ottoman Period and Armenian Genocide", says nothing about actual Ottoman period of Erzincan, and details some statistics form 1914-1916. How can centuries of Ottoman rule of the city and the area be totally missing from a paragraph with such a heading? By the way alleged AG is not a period but an event. It does not denote a period of history. Also much of the information, which seems more like one sided propaganda on a controversial topic, is already treated in countless many articles in Wikipedia. I suggest the informed editors try to build some content here relevant to Ottoman Period. Murat (talk) 19:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Content is definitely missing, and the Armenian Genocide should definitely be a subsection, or a section all on its own (I'll be fixing this right now); however, I disagree that the content there is propaganda; while there are problematic sections (which I'll also mark with the same edit) its treatment of the subject is perfectly in line with academic consensus. Uness232 (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ottoman Period 

message: There is a separate section on the demography of the town while the paragraph on the "Ottoman era" in the history section basically only goes into the city's demography. I'd suggest adding more non-demography related content to the section and moving most of the current paragraph to Demographics. AlenVaneci (talk) 12:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics and history sections