Talk:List of vineyards and wineries

message: This list of wineries can never be complete - should the page just be removed? Perhaps best to reference some outside sources (www.wineontheweb.com or Wine-Searcher).
Remove long block of text inserted to promote Candadian wines with little other perceived purpose Steve.Moulding 20:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Improve, dont delete. I removed the prod. I agree it nee3ds major improvement. So why not fix the ones you know? DGG (talk) 16:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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message: otherwise unless someone can copy the wikicode into Excel, use the "Data | Text to Columns..." feature to split it on the comma, then use the "Data | Sort" feature to group it by state. That would get 99% cleaned up but not 100% sure its worthwhile as there is literally thousands of wineries. SpringSummerAutumn (talk 1 August 2009
:I can tell you right now that all of the redlinks can be wiped without consequence... it appears someone went through and blindly added a link to every winery in Australia... The ones with their own articles are OK for the moment, but I am going to remove all the redlinks right now... should help to start cleanup on the list... Tables would be great, but we also need references for each (like on List of wineries and vineyards in Maine)... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: This page may possibly be up for Deletion see: [[WP:AfD]] consider also Wikipedia guideline pages - [[WP:LIST]] and [[WP:NOTDIR]]

message: The latest AfD nomination/voting can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of vineyards and wineries (2nd nomination). At that time it was not tagged for WP:WINE. Tomas e (talk) 12:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: I think the existence of the is article is absurd, but looking the AfD records, it's here to stay. And looking at the edit history, it seems to have been mothballed. So, what would we want from a list of wineries? If we want to simply find a winery, we would go to the categories for help. If we look at other lists on Wikipedia, they give useful information such as years, specific locations, associated personalities.
: Varietals – If I were looking at a list of wineries, most likely I'd want to filter for varietals and styles. But, since business needs, budgets, marketing schemes, and market trends are as stable as a man after a bottle of claret, maintaining a varietals column would be unreasonable.
: Region, appellation, etc. – The list currently lists the Australian regions, but that's about it. Cloudy Bay does not list Marborough. One issue is listings such as Concha y Toro. The company spans several regions of Chile, which creates problems if we want to make the list sortable. My personal philosophy is that a large table with several columns is useless without the option to sort.
: Year established – Useful if you want to find the oldest or newest, or if you want to get a picture of the timeline of openings in a region.
What are some other suggestions? Oh, and what criteria do we want? The intro if paltry at best. Is it just the list of wineries and vineyards on Wikipedia? How do we decide what goes in? Notability? What is that? Notability may not be synonymous with quality or rankings. This very well could be a list that puts Little Penguin next to Petrus. Cheers! Encycloshave (talk) 10:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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