Talk:Shelter Island Conference

message: I removed description of Oppenheimer as "the most famous participant" because it implies a quantification of fame that is unspecified. I would like to know the guideline that covers this. Is "Puffery" in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (words to watch) appropriate? Michael P. Barnett (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A guideline question 

message: How can this article be disambiguated from Shelter Island Conference on Quantum Mechanics in Valence Theory, held in 1951. It was also sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences. The Nobel Laureate Robert S. Mulliken organized the meeting. The other participants were Theodore H. Berlin, Bryce L. Crawford, Charles A. Coulson, Henry Eyring, Joseph O. Hirschfelder, George E. Kimball, Masao Kotani, Sir John Lennard-Jones, Per-Olov Lowdin, D. A. McInnes, Henry Margenau, Joseph E. Mayer, William Moffitt,  Robert G. Parr, Linus Pauling, Kenneth S. Pitzer, Clemens C. J. Roothaan, Klaus Rudenberg, Harrison Shull, John Clarke Slater, Leslie E. Sutton, C. W. Ufford, John H. Van Vleck, George Wheland, and Michael P. Barnett.Robert G. Parr and Bryce L. Crawford. National Academy of Sciences Conference on Quantum-Mechanical Methods in Valence Theory, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 38, 547--554, 1952. (Hirschfelder, Moffitt, Shull, Wheland all meet criteria for notability in U.S. very easily, likewise Lowdin in Sweden and Kotani in Japan). In 1981, J.C. Light wrote, in an issue of The Journal of Physical Chemistry, that it presented papers from a conference that was "merely the latest in a long sequence of ... conferences ... on theoretical chemistry spanning 3 decades ..." followed by a list that began with the Shelter Island conference.J.C. Light, American Conference on Theoretical Chemistry: Introductory Remarks. Journal of Physical Chemistry, 86, 2111-12, 1982In 1996, Parr wrote "The fall of 1951 was an exciting time for quantum chemistry ... the Shelter Island Conference on Quantum-Mechanical Methods in Valence Theory ... was singularly important ... ".R.G. Parr, The Genesis of a Theory, International Journal of Quantum Chemistry, 37, 327--347, 1996. I think these comments justify an article on the Quantum Mechanics in Valence conference, and a disambiguation. I do not know how to proceed. 
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Michael P. Barnett (talk) 19:45, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added that page and transferred the comments you made. Jim Killock (talk) 10:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A disambiguation need 

message: Seems to me that a second page should be created, such as Shelter Island Conference on Quantum Mechanics in Valence Theory, 1951 and an appropriate link on this page to that (For the XX Conference in 1951, see this page) created?
I am not an expert though.Jim Killock (talk) Personal blog 14:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added that page and transferred the comments you made. Jim Killock (talk) 10:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: Total cost of conference? And who paid? With citation. A modern reader might wonder if it was registration fee. (I assume there wasn't one, but ...) Michael P. Barnett (talk) 18:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that this was not a fee but an overall cost for the conference itself. The main reference for all this is Schweber's book that is cited below between the reviews. Of course, I can understand your need to put in evidence a relevant conference for quantum chemistry happened at the same place in the almost the same period. But I invite you to read Schweber's book to have an idea of what this has meant for all physics and why, today, our current understanding of the Universe relies heavily on what these men discussed at that conference. So, I invite you to avoid this sarcasm here that is completely out of place and appears just an evidence of ignorance.--Pra1998 (talk) 16:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cost $850

message: If Feynman was born in 1918 (as per WP article about him), he was 29 at the time of the conference. What was he young relative to? (I was 22 at time of Shelter Island valency conference -- what would be the corresponding descriptor?). Quite apart from any WP legalisms that "relatively young" may violate, I would suggest "29-year old" in any real world article I was editing. But I would rather someone else made the change, if considered appropriate. Michael P. Barnett (talk) 19:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: How young is "relatively"

message: Since the picture has been deleted from Commons, is anybody considering to ask NAS to donate any of the photographs? kismalac 16:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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