Talk:List of battery electric vehicles

message: There is a new section for prototypes under Electric Car: Electric_car#Prototype_electric_cars.  It's for electric cars currently under development. Since this list is about production EVs, the prototypes (cars anyway, but I think they all are) should be moved there.Facts707 (talk) 13:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: prototype vehicles should be moved to "electric car"

message: There appears to be no support for the deletion proposal on this page. I am strongly against this proposal. At a time when interest in electric cars is very high, but availability is very low, it is very instructive to be able to see what manufacturers are making or planning. I do not agree that the article is a directory. New Thought 18:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - this page should not be removed. This is a useful and important list. Fresheneesz 03:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Retain article (or merge), terminate updates for car models introduces beyond today (2019  or earlier date), see below Meerwind7 (talk) 07:16, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: deletion proposal

message: This page should be split into vehicles that are currently in production, planned for production, or have been discontinued. Fresheneesz 18:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this page should be deleted.  Wikipedia is not about lists.  The category function should suffice. See wp:not .   Daniel.Cardenas 19:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I found this page useful and i would like it to be kept. Raigedas 11:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Some of the cars listed as No Longer In Production should in fact be reclassified as Prototypes that never went into Production - for example the T Zero and the Wrightspeed X1. This list is likely to grow as  various startups sink again. (Phoenix Motors)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.219.66.165 (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: organize

message: Today (May 2019) there exist five lists in English language wikipedia that largely overlap and all of which are far from a complete, updated state:
List of hybrid vehicles (hybrid electric vehicles equipped with both combustion engines and electric drivetrains)
List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles (with pure battery vehicles, but also plug-ins, also some motorcycles and small trucks)
List of production battery electric vehicles (mainly a list with few notes on each car, also some non-car entries like motorcyles and light trucks, only purely electric vehicles)
List of production battery electric vehicles (table)
List of electric cars currently available (table with some details of cars, but lower number of entries)
List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles available in the United States (only cars, plug-in hybrids and purely electric cars)
There is also the List of electric scooters (German Wikipedia).
Some of these lists miss small size electric vehicles like the Renault Twizy.
It may be easy to set ups such lists at some point in time by copying from other assembled data, but it is more difficult to keep them updated. For comparison: There is nothing like a “list of fossil fuel cars” for all conventional cars combined.
I would suggest to freeze most of all of the lists, unless someone would like to merge them into one list each for plug-in hybrids and pure electric cars. And even such list could be frozen as electric cars become standard to a "history of early electric cars in early 21st century" list. Meerwind7 (talk) 07:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mess of defunct lists 

message: This is a list of cars or similar vehicles; it does not (or should not) include scooters and motorcycles. Nor does it include boats, etc... so it should be called List of production battery-electric cars. CGameProgrammer 19:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can create a List of production battery electric vehicles article and a List of production battery electric cars article, with links from one to the other (vehicles would include trucks, buses, scooters and motorcycles). --Nopetro 20:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This article needs to be renamed

message: I deleted some of the cars listed in Production Vehicles because I could find no information on electric versions currently being produced. These are:
*Porsche 550 Spyder replica electric conversion
::Almost certainly a scam; it's wholly unrealistic and I would like to see an unbiased source, not affiliated with Homestead, that has purchased and built the car. Until then, it does not belong anywhere in Wikipedia.
*Renault EV  Kangoo.
::I can't find any information on the electric version of this.
*Renault Twingo - Swiss, Italy (2006).
::All that's mentioned is a concept shown at a car show. There are many electric concepts; is it actually being produced and sold though? I don't think so.
CGameProgrammer 00:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unverified cars (deleted)

message: What is the performance of this car? I can't find information on the top speed through Google. If it's limited to 50 mph or below, I feel it should be placed in the "low-speed vehicles" section, as it would not have the performance of a regular gasoline or diesel car. I want this article to accurately differentiate between electric cars that are fully capable versus ones with limitations. CGameProgrammer 20:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanova

message: Added /Table for a more easy visibility and readability. --Nopetro 20:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: I added an entry for Switch Vehicles - production planned for 2012. I am doing a little marketing for this vehicle so I will refrain from writing an entry on it, but I would like to request an entry if anyone is interested. More information about the vehicle can be found here: http://switchvehicles.com and in an article about the vehicle here: http://blog.greentransportation.info/2011/11/jim-mcgreens-new-company-switch.html Saillwhite (talk) 04:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Entry on Switch Vehicles 

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message: The list is missing the Hyundai Ioniq. Avl (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing cars from list

message: Electric and hybrid cars are becoming more comonpace. When at some time most types of car will have a electric or hybrid variant, it is not meaningful and imossible to keep these lists updates. I suggest to terminate new entries for any new models that enter(ed) the market after 2018, and rename it correspondingly. The list would thus grudually evolve into a historic document of early actvities in the car industrie in the first two decades of this millennium. This would not preclude some notes about highly significant new market entries or best-selling cars of that type. But certainly, the expectation of a "complete" list of all electric or hybrid cars is inachievable. Meerwind7 (talk) 07:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Termination of updates and renaming of list 

message: As has been pointed out many times above, since essentially all productions vehicles will be battery electric relatively soon, by automotive timescales, this article, were people to try to continue to maintain it as a comprehensive list, would simply be a list of all production vehicles.  And that's neither maintainable nor sensible.
I propose that we switch this to a category, probably "Category:Production electric vehicles" for simplicity.  And I propose that the criteria for inclusion be that the vehicle has had 25 or more units sold to the general public within the span of a year (which is the broadest generally-accepted definition of "production") and that the vehicle be purely battery-electric, not hybrid, hydrogen, electric-assisted-pedal-power, etc.  If people want to create complementary categories for those, I'm fully supportive, but that's not what I'm proposing here and now.
Once that's done and the articles associated with vehicles currently listed on this page (and on the separate table) have been added to it, my personal belief is that this article should be transformed into a discussion of "Electric vehicles in series production prior to 2020," since that's not actually boiling the ocean.  But that's just my opinion, and I'd rather we keep these two issues separate.  For now, I'm just advocating the creation of a new category, "Production electric vehicles". EVhotrodder (talk) 12:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yay! A little more digging, and I found that this already exists: :Category:Battery electric cars currently in production.  I'll start through the list here and make sure that all that I can see to be actually in production are appropriately tagged. EVhotrodder (talk) 13:10, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gotten mostly through the linked articles, done a bit of clean-up, and categorized the ones that were in production with the missing category.  However, it's become apparent that many of the vehicles in the "in production" list are not, actually.  They're either unrealized prototypes, or have gone out of production without having been moved to the "previously in production" list.  I think the reality is that this is a moving target, and continuous maintenance is needed if a list is going to purport to be accurate. Like I said, I think this article is doomed to become unsynchronized with reality if it attempts to keep up with the moving target of all production EVs.  Particularly if things get listed before they're actually in series production, which just makes the problem that much messier. EVhotrodder (talk) 14:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think we should acknowledge that this article has a limited future, and move toward the exits in an orderly fashion. 

message: :This list needs a lead section. The inclusion criterion does not appear to be unambiguously clear from the article title. 
:I would imagine (likely erroneously) that most people would know that, unlike a weed-eater (or other items meant to remain in a certain area) a "vehicle" is intended to travel a certain distance that would mean an electric cord is not feasible. Adding "Battery" would not seem necessary with a lead. Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) have been called Electric vehicles (EV) for a long time and the term is well known. If an alternate mode is incorporated, like an engine, they would be referred to as a hybrid. The definition of an electric vehicle would be: "Fully electric vehicles with rechargeable batteries and no gasoline engine". It would be like adding "rechargeable" to the title. I would equally guess that most people would know that as unnecessary since, unlike other battery-operated things, one would not expect to replace the battery every time it died. --  Otr500 (talk) 09:48, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead section 

message: Unless someone can provide evidence of a higher selling battery electric car on another planet, this should be changed to "Tesla Model 3 is the best-selling battery electric automobile in the history of the known universe"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.203.83.143 (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tesla Model 3 is the best-selling battery electric automobile in world history? 

message: in the list including vehicles originating outside of China, there are BEV's that are fully electric but are not marked as such in the list. If someone with access to this article reads this, then this needs changing. 1.147.110.70 (talk) 04:00, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you elaborate which one? You can edit it yourself it's not protected. Andra Febrian (talk) 05:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  at least one list is incorrect