Talk:Catholic Church sexual abuse cases/Archive 3

message: Dear  Anne Heneghan- I address you thus because I do not recall personally addressing you before . I am not noted for my  lovey attitude here on WP, so I won't beat about the bush .
You have removed very large and several small important sections and facts from this article . In the case of the large, Celibacy , you may note that my qualifications were  added in attempt to balance that which was  biased and insulting to the totality of the abused, and which served to defuse the issue through disgustingly twisted argument . I have no idea how that came to be and do not suggest it had anything to do with you . In fact  it was , previous to my attempt at balancing , deserving of heavy removal . However you have not solved the problem by this  out-knife-and-cut approach .
To your other edits- I am shocked and appalled at your cavalier removals . Do you wish before I say more to review these removals , which are  IMO indefensible . You know perfectly well to which I refer. Please return  them to the article , where they rightfully belong .  EffK 08:31, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal from article-Celibacy & etc

message: For perspective for  other previous varying   Ireland   "Abuse" , and taken from  :[]
Institutions to be investigated where abuse is alleged to have occurred
An Grianán Training Centre, Grace Park Road, Dublin 9
Artane Industrial School for Senior Boys, Dublin 5
Baltimore Fishery School for Senior Boys, Baltimore, Co. Cork
Benada Abbey Industrial School for Girls, Ballymote, Co. Sligo
Carriglea Park Industrial School for Senior Boys, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Cottage Home, Tivoli Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Don Bosco House, Gardiner Street, Dublin 1
Family Group Home, Geevagh, Co. Sligo 
Family Group Home, Letterkenny, Co. Donegal
Family Group Home, Wexford
Kirwan House, Ranelagh, Dublin 6
Madonna House, Blackrock, Co. Dublin
Madonna House, Merrion Road, Dublin 4 
Martanna House Hostel, Grace Park Road, Dublin 9
Miss Carr's Children's Home, 5 Northbrook Road, Dublin 6
Mount Carmel Industrial School for Girls, Moate, Co. Westmeath
Nazareth House, Sligo
Orphanage Schools, Convent of Mercy, Kells, Co. Meath 
Our Boy's Home, 95 Monkstown Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Our Lady of Mercy Industrial School for Girls, Kinsale, Co. Cork
Our Lady of Succour Industrial School, Newtownforbes, Co.Longford
Our Lady's Industrial School for Girls, Ennis, Co. Clare 
Pembrook Alms (Nazareth House) Industrial School for Girls, Tralee, Co. Kerry
CPI Marino Special School, Bray, Co. Wicklow
Cork University Hospital School, Harcourt Street Hospital, Dublin 2 
Holy Family School for Moderate Learning Disability, Charleville, Co. Cork
Our Lady of Good Counsel, Lota, Glanmire, Co. Cork
Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Our Lady's Hospital for Sick Children, Crumlin, Dublin 12 
Sacred Heart Home, Drumcondra, Dublin 9
School of the Divine Child, Lavanagh, Ballintemple, Cork
School of the Holy Spirit, Seville Lodge, Kilkenny, Co. Kilkenny
Scoil Ard Mhuire, Lusk, Co Dublin
Scoil Eanna, School of the Angels, Montenotte, Cork 
Scoil Triest, Lota, Glanmire, Co. Cork
St. Martin's Orphanage, Waterford
St. Clare's Orphanage, Harold's Cross, Dublin 6
St. David's, Lota, Glanmire, Co. Cork
St. Gabriel's School, Curraheen Road, Cork 
St. Joseph's Orphanage, Tivoli Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
St. Joseph's Orphanage, Bundoran, Co. Donegal
St. Joseph's Orthapaedic Hospital for Children, Coole, Co.Westmeath
St. Joseph's School for the Visually Impaired, Drumcondra, Dublin 9
St. Kevin's Reformatory, Glencree, Co. Wicklow
St. Martha's Industrial School, Monaghan
St. Martha's Industrial School, Merrion, Dublin 4
St. Mary's Orthopaedic Hospital, Baldoyle, Dublin 13 
St. Mary's Orthopaedic Hospital, Cappagh, Dublin 11
St. Mary's School for Visually Impaired Girls, Merrion, Dublin
St. Vincent's Centre for Persons with Intellectual Disability, Lisnagry,Limerick
St. Vincent's Orphanage, North William St, Dublin 9 
St. Aidan's Industrial School for Girls, Newross, Co. Wexford
St. Aloysius' Industrial School for Girls, Clonakilty, Co. Cork
St. Ann's Industrial School for Girls and Junior Boys, Renmore, Lenaboy,Co. Galway St. Anne's Industrial School for Girls, Booterstown, Co. Dublin
St. Anne's Reformatory School for Girls, Kilmacud, Co. Dublin
St. Anne's, Sean Ross Abbey, Roscrea, Co. Tipperary 
St. Augustine's Industrial School for Girls, Templemore, Co.Tipperary
St. Augustine's, Obelisk Park, Carysfort Avenue, Blackrock, Co. Dublin
St. Bernadette's, Bonnington, Montenotte, Cork 
St. Bernard's Industrial School for Girls, Fethard, Dundrum, Co.Tipperary
St. Bridgid's Industrial School for Girls, Loughrea, Co. Galway
St. Cecilia's, Cregg House, Sligo
St. Clare's Orphanage, Harold's Cross, Dublin 6 
St. Coleman's Industrial School for Girls, Cobh/Rushbrook, Co. Cork
St. Columba's Industrial School for Girls, Westport, Co. Mayo
St. Conleth's Reformatory School for Boys, Daingean, Co. Offaly
St. Dominick's Industrial School for Girls, Waterford 
St. Finbarr's Industrial School for Girls, Sundays Well, Marymount,Cork
St. Francis Xavier's Industrial School for Girls and Junior Boys, Ballaghadereen, Co Roscommon
St. Francis' & St Mary of the Angels, Beaufort, Killarney, Co. Kerry 
St. Francis' Industrial School for Girls, Cashel, Co. Tipperary
St. George's Industrial School for Girls, Limerick
St. John's Industrial School for Girls, Birr, Co. Offaly
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Boys, Passage West, Co. Cork
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Boys, Tralee, Co. Kerry 
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls and Junior Boys, Ballinasloe, Co. Galway
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls and Junior Boys, Clifden, Co.Galway St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls and Junior Boys, Liosomoine, Killarney, Co. Kerry
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Cavan
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Dundalk, Co. Louth
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Kilkenny
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Mallow, Co. Cork 
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Summerhill, Athlone, Co. Westmeath
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Girls, Whitehall, Drumcondra,Dublin 9
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Senior Boys, Ferryhouse, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Senior Boys, Glin, Co. Limerick
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Senior Boys, Greenmount, Cork
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Senior Boys, Letterfrack, Co. Galway 
St. Joseph's Industrial School for Senior Boys, Salthill, Co. Galway
St. Joseph's Orphanage, Tivoli Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
St. Joseph's Reformatory School for Girls, Limerick
St. Joseph's School for Hearing Impaired Boys, Cabra, Dublin 7
St. Joseph's School for the Visually Handicapped, Drumcondra, Dublin 9
St. Kyran's Industrial School for Junior Boys, Rathdrum, Co. Wicklow
St. Laurence's Industrial School for Girls, Sligo
St. Laurence's Industrial School, Finglas, Dublin 11 
St. Martha's Industrial School for Girls, Bundoran, Co. Donegal
St. Mary's Industrial School, Lakelands, Sandymount, Dublin 4
St. Mary's Orthopaedic Hospital, Baldoyle, Dublin 13
St. Mary's Orthopaedic Hospital, Cappagh, Finglas, Dublin 11
St. Mary's School for Hearing Impaired Girls, Cabra, Dublin 7
St. Mary's, Delvin, Co. Westmeath
St. Mary's, Drumcar, Dunleer, Co. Louth
St. Mary's, Rochestown, Cork 
St. Michael's Industrial School for Girls, Wexford
St. Michael's Industrial School for Junior boys, Cappoquin, Co.Waterford
St. Michael's, Glenmaroon, Chapelizod, Dublin 20
St. Mura's Orphanage, Fahan, Co. Donegal 
St. Patrick's Industrial School for Boys, Upton, Cork
St. Patrick's Industrial School for Junior Boys, Kilkenny
St. Paul's Hospital, Beaumont, Dublin 9
St. Paul's, Montenotte, Cork
St. Saviour's Orphanage, Lr. Dominick Street, Dublin 1 
St. Vincent's (House of Charity) Industrial School for Junior Boys,Drogheda, Co. Louth
St. Vincent's Industrial School for Girls, Limerick
St. Vincent's Industrial School, Goldenbridge, Inchicore, Dublin 8
St. Vincent's Orphanage, Glasnevin, Dublin 9 
St. Vincent's, Navan Road, Dublin 7
Stewart's Hospital, Palmerstown, Dublin 20
Tabor House, Dublin
Temple Street Hospital, Dublin 1
The Bird's Nest Home, 19 York Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
The Los Angeles Homes, Dublin
The O'Brien Institute, Malahide Road, Dublin
Trudder House, Newtownmountkennedy, Co. Wicklow
Warrenstown House, Corduff Road, Blanchardstown, Dublin 15
Source: Residential Institutions Act 2002 (May be slow to load). Please be patient.
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EffK 23:39, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Institutional Abuse

message: Broadcast: a demo by hundred, at least one, in front of the chief Bishops palace  against the  policy (see Elision  thereof in Ist para Abuse etc at Pope Benedict XVI) which Policy requires your rapid exegesis. The policy is that of excommunication , automatic or there-up-to ) for disclosure by Priests of allegations known to the episcopate , unto third parties. Presumably  un-authorised disclosure.
perhaps you are in the right spot Str, cos this needs exegesis bad.
Broadcast : California court  suit against the episcopacy  for knowingly sending and keeping and returning and maintaining the seminary Priestly products , to California . All depositions going straight to DVD so even if you die, your word will be deposition. Since all is  first hand and not hearsay , they gonna  keep going. 
What of sovereignty? I mean once that cracks - how continue this Archive position( and no theyre not open). ? Dear OH dear, this is not  good . 
Article is obscene , more for the lack of  morality in the so called vocation  than in the poor mites so abused. They are human, which at this  level is so much worth more, is more , than all the episcopacy put together. Bishops are fine, and are  to be listened to , but they have to attend to the law themselves prior to  lecturing  on street riots or such  or anything . The question of the Law Str.  
Please revert  to Effk (ish)EffK 18:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Demo reveals feeling re: [[Excommunication]] good Priests, California  lawsuit 

message: Editor Anne heneghan :I  take these removals as demonstration of poor  faith, editor . You do not justify them and mischaracterised them . You do not deny them , but you censored them . What is your  aim ?How justify this action ?EffK 09:54, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeat of question re:Removal from article

message: I've moved this page from :Category:Roman Catholic Church to :Category:Roman Catholicism in the world, which is a subsidiary page.  --JASpencer 13:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And now I have recategorised.  --JASpencer 13:41, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-Categorisation

message: One section of the article claims that people have made suggestions that the catholic church has been unfairly singled out. Should it not be mentioned that the catholic church is the only one where Altar Boys are commonly seen and as such there might be more... opportunities for predatory pedophiles to act? WookMuff 07:24, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  altar boys