Talk:List of X characters

message: I'm attempting to edit the X Character page to add new information and reword present information for clarity. The changes are initially appearing, but someone seems to continuously change them back within a few minutes. I do not appreciate this and would prefer that whoever is doing it (be it an anonymous fan or a moderator of some sort) first of all know that what I am doing is neither attempted graffiti nor without cause, and secondly that this behavior is highly annoying. SumeragiNoOnmyouji 04:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Annoyed

message: I've changed the phrase "…which only the Dragons of Heaven and Earth can see" to "…which only others with occult powers can see" due to continuity discrepancies the first phrase has with X canon. Characters OTHER than the Ten No Ryuu and Chi No Ryuu (such as Hinoto and Yuzuriha's grandmother, and assumably, any other family members of Yuzuriha's) are able to see Inuki. This is because they possess spiritual or magical powers. The ability to see the inugami is NOT restricted solely to the Dragons of Heaven and Earth. SumeragiNoOnmyouji 04:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A note on Nekoi Yuzuriha's biographical information

message: While it's true that Hinoto never explicitly declares that she loves Daisuke, Daisuke obviously loves Hinoto. Moreover, Hinoto is, at the very least, extremely fond of him and cares greatly for his well-being (as evidenced throughout the manga). Therefore, Saiki Daisuke should be taken as the CANONICAL romantic interest of Hinoto. Please stop attaching "according to some"'s to that. SumeragiNoOnmyouji 04:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A note on Hinoto's romantic interests

message: As I've been renovating and updating this article, I noticed how long it's become. Due to its size (currently around 48 kb), I've decided to break the X Characters article up into three new articles: The Dragons Of Heaven, The Dragons Of Earth, and Supporting Characters. Please be patient while I rectify this situation. Thank you.
SumeragiNoOnmyouji 02:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Size

message: Should it be mentioned that Beast was (it is implied) built on Kanoe's orders in the anime but by Satsuki herself in the manga? --12.42.50.51 15:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Beast

message: In the anime version (as well as the manga of Tokyo Babylon, where they keep some Japanese words in), Hokuto is referred to as Subaru's nēsan, which means "older sister".  Does this mean she's the elder twin and therefore, in class-conscious Japan, regarded as "above" Subaru, hence her bossy nature (she almost seems to act like his legal guardian at times)?  Or is she just called his nēsan because she bosses him around (a sort of chicken and egg situation)?  Or is nēsan also used for twin sister -- i.e. any sister who isn't younger? Dave-ros 22:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most likely, Subaru calls Hokuto neesan because she is the older twin of the pair.   Even though they are twins, if Hokuto was born first, she is the "older sister".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.5.55 (talk) 08:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hokuto's relationship to Subaru 

message: Since Shirō Kamui exists as a separate article... what should be moved to the separate article and what should stay here? Any volunteers for the move? --KagamiNoMiko 00:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That article ought to be merged here, if anything (assuming there's anything in that article not already in the Dragons of Heaven one), unless Kamui appears significantly outside X. Dave-ros 14:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kamui also appears in Tsubasa as a relatively important secondary character. Describing his role there would indeed be easier in a separate article. (For now, though, the article is on Kamui in X, and there's nothing interesting in it - it's very much a stub). --KagamiNoMiko 10:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On a similar topic, I've been having thoughts about making an entire article for Subaru Sumeragi, since he's effectively in three works including Tokyo Babylon and this Tsubasa thing and thus suitably "deep" to have his own article.  But I reckon it'd also be worthwhile for Kamui, as long as it could be expanded a bit -- and maybe just a link and a quick summary in this article. Dave-ros 13:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes I think it would be easiest to have separate articles for every CLAMP character that has more than a short cameo in "Tsubasa" - it would certainly be helpful on the Ashura/Ashura-oh issue. -_- Problem is, I certainly don't have the energy to write enough about the characters to warrant separate articles. --KagamiNoMiko 19:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shirō Kamui article 

message: Yuzuriha is, thus far, the only character who has effectively forced Fūma, the Kamui of the Dragons of Earth, to stand down in battle—a feat which many of the older and ostensibly more powerful Seals, such as Kamui and Subaru, have yet to come close to matching.
I don't like this sentence, as it implies more than actually happened: Fuuma was testing her will to live and left when she proved it by giving birth to the new Inuki. Can anyone think of a good way to reword the above sentence to convey this? --KagamiNoMiko 20:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuzuriha 

message: it seems as though he is (at the very least) strongly compelled to grant the wishes of others, if not outright-forced to
This is more interpretation than fact. It's never actually been stated why Fuuma grants grants wishes, and although I suppose this is a possible reason, I would say that, according to the last few chapters that were published, where he tells Karen that he grants others' wishes as an expression of his own wish, it's actually more likely that Fuuma enables the people he faces to attain their wish out of his own free will. 
Anyway, I'm not saying it should be changed to that, but I am saying that it's not actually indicated in the manga that he's in any way forced to do it. Gekidasa (talk) 17:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fūma Monou 

message: This article needs to be brought into the WP:MOS-JA style guidelines.  The furi needs to go and it needs some trimming (i.e. the name analysis.) --Kunzite 02:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hrm, it doesn't copy and paste over well either (the ruby text).  When I try to copy a single line of kanji, it picks up the kana as well...  I'm not really liking ruby. =/ -Aknorals 05:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Furigana's too much.. 

message: When characters appear in more than one series, like Subaru Sumeragi and Seishirō Sakurazuka, I think the split is a no-brainer. There's just too much information to cover in one tiny entry in a list. For characters like Kamui Shirō, it'd better to wait until his entry is long enough. However, if his role in Tsubasa Chronicle is large enough, I think the split is justifiable.
I'm bringing this up because Dave-ros brought it to my attention. If anyone else has an opinion, feel free to discuss it.--Nohansen 15:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split articles 

message: I'm gonna copy here something I said at the Project talk page back in March of this year:
:"WP:STAND says stand-alone lists are "lists of links" or "usually consist of links to articles in a particular subject area". But most of the lists of fictional characters aren't really lists of links, but character profiles organized in a list-like format. There might be something to what the editors at Characters of Halo did. Should we rename all the Lists of anime and manga characters to "Characters of..." and treat them as articles rather than lists? After all, I remember a time when this project called for lists of characters be named "List of characters in (series)" if it is just a list, or "Characters in (series)" if it contains actual information on the characters."
So, this is "more" than a list. While the MOS reccommends that this type of articles be named "List of (series) characters", exceptions can be made (it says so at the top of the page). Also, the "List of Halo characters" became a GA after it was renamed "Characters of Halo", and I'm confident this article (with a little work) has the same chance.--Nohansen (talk) 22:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent move 

message: User:TangentCube has changed the spelling of Tohru (to use the same spelling as CLAMP) Magami's name from Tōru to Tooru, reasoning that this is required to indicate a break in kanji. However, nowhere on the linked discussion page, in the MOS or the Hepburn article does it say anything about this being required. The only thing I've found is the difference made between 'ō' and 'ou', a difference which, as far as I remember, is also indicated by the hiragana used. But this does not seem to be the case with Tohru. So, for consistancy's sake (as every other name is written using macrons), I propose going back to Tōru. --KagamiNoMiko (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a more recent discussion on the issue of macrons between kanji: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Ryokū vs. Ryokuu.  Note that everyone commenting there is in agreement that vowels broken by kanji remain separate, which is repeated in a section later on.  This is why we have an article at Motoo Furushō and not Motō Furushō, for example.  I believe the formal ANSI definition of Revised Hepburn (ANSI Z39.11-1972) also makes this distinction, though I do not have the document on hand.  (and if it is Tohru anyway, why isn't the article using that?)  —tan³ tx 18:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because we don't use any of the romanizations which Clamp have used on the backcovers. --KagamiNoMiko (talk) 08:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romanization of Tohru Magami's name 

message: Hello, I was reading the section about Setsuki Yatoji and I was wondering, is this character a boy or a girl?  In the article it is stated that this character is a girl.  However, in the trailer on the ghost in the shell DVD it is stated that Setsuki Yatoji is actually a boy.  should this be ammended in the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master1001 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: She's called Satsuki, and she's a girl. You might not want to edit any manga/anime articles unless you've actually read/watched the series in question.--KagamiNoMiko (talk) 09:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Satsuki Yatoji