Talk:Ted Healy

message: Ted Healy was not born in Houston, Texas. He was born in Kaufman, Texas. His parents (and baby Ted) moved to Houston, TX when he was a baby, and thus he always considered Houston his hometown. This is the most likely reason why he apparently stated on his 1917 draft registration that he was born in Houston. HOWEVER, a woman by the name of Kathey Hunt found his birth record in the Birth Record Books in Kaufman, proving he definitely was born in Kaufman, TX. Here is a link to that information: http://www.txgenweb5.org/txkaufman/hofame/nashcel.htm  Also, it has been reported in several books and many websites that Ted Healy was born in Kaufman, TX. And one other thing: The Kaufman Herald weekly newspaper - dated December 24th, 1987 - did a big story about about the life of Ted Healy on the 50th anniversary of his death, in which they noted that he was born there (in Kaufman, TX). Yes, the 50th anniversary of his death was 12/21/87, but the newspaper is dated 12/24/87 because it is a weekly paper, not a daily paper. Anyway, being a native Kaufmanite, I saved the article when it originally came out and I still have it in my possession today. When one adds up all the information I provide here, it is obvious Ted Healy was born in Kaufman, TX.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topgun1234 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The citation for Kaufman birth records was not for the 1859 Nash, but for the one this article is about.  I'm not changing anything (yet), but my experience tells me that a state birth record trumps a draft registration just about any time.  I've found many examples of inaccurate draft registrations, but comparatively very, very few inaccurate state birth records. Comments, anyone else?Monkeyzpop (talk) 06:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ted Healy's listed birthplace in Wikipedia is inaccurate 

message: Recent edits have been done to the cause of death section, given the lack of corroboration of the single source which implicated Wallace Beery et al. in Healy's death. Those interested may wish to see the talk page of DoctorJoeE, though I wanted to make my comments here instead. (Hopefully, DoctorJoeE does not mind that I have linked him here.)
The corrections and additions I made today were not particularly big. In one instance I removed The Pittsburgh Press as a source because it did not confirm the info about Albert Broccoli, though that info was confirmed in an article from Lewiston Evening Journal, so I simply changed the source. I changed the spelling of the name of Dr. Lamont to "Wyantt", though he is once called Wyland and once Wyatt in articles, but Wyantt seems to be the most common variation. I corrected the title of Evening Independent article used as a source - "Was he murdered?" was a caption, not the title of the article. Also, I added info on Man Mountain Dean per that Pittsburgh Press article already linked as a source. Since I don't edit much on Wikipedia any more, I can only hope I have formatted these correctly. Clockster (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the additional content & references; I've streamlined it a bit.  The article clearly needs a lot more work, and I plan to get to it when I can.  (Writing deadlines await in the real world, unfortunately.)  As for the discussion on my talk page, it's mostly incoherent attacks on me that I should never have allowed to continue -- my apologies for feeding the trolls, it won't happen again -- but anyone is free to have a look if they wish. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 15:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it looks good and all that can be done with what's available online has been done. Taking the info from The Fixers out will probably end up being for the best, though more work digging into Fleming's claims will decide that for sure. Thanks. 70.179.131.224 (talk) 03:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I apparently was signed out when I made the above comment, sorry. I am concerned about the Broccoli info because UP apparently reported both that Albert Broccoli only pushed Healy after Healy attacked him, but then later in the day reported he was "engaged in a fist fight" with Healy. Is it reasonable to assume that "engaged" meant the same as "pushed"? Has anyone found any sources to explain the difference between the two UP accounts?  Clockster (talk) 11:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The source (Oxnard Daily Courier) specifically reported that he "admitted he engaged in a fist fight with Healy", and we need to report it exactly as the source reported it -- perhaps as a direct quote, for clarity.  A "fist fight" generally implies the use of fists -- and while the other source does say that Broccoli claimed that Healy did all the punching and he just pushed Healy away, we have included that source as well.  For us to attempt to resolve those two reports would violate WP:OR and WP:SYNTH, IMHO.  Pending the location of other sources (and I'm still digging), we'll have to leave it that the sources conflict.  Meanwhile, I took out the "mobster" descriptor on DiCicco but someone put it back in; unless there is an objection I'd like to remove it again, since it's an allegation, and non-neutral, and irrelevant in this context because we don't have any corroboration that he was even present.  DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 17:41, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

text: I don't know which note you are referring to, but if it was sourced, and you believe it was relevant, go right ahead.  If the editor who removed it disagrees, I'm sure we will hear from him/her. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 02:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Cause of Death Discussion 

message: Pretty much my topic line. 4 Cohan's is not found on Wikipedia, but Four Cohans is. 173.21.38.106 (talk) 05:34, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's apparently "Four Cohans Opera House", not 4 Cohan's.