Talk:Metayage

message: This may just need slight recasting into a more encyclopedic form.  I removed the sentence that read, "Indeed, to every tourist who has passed through the plains of Lombardy with their eyes open, the knowledge that métayage has for ages been there the prevailing form of tenure ought to suffice for the triumphant vindication of métayage in the abstract."  'Triumphant vindication' was just too hard to swallow.  But sentences like "Métayage, in order to be in any measure worthy of commendation, must be a genuine partnership ..." need to be recast. Bejnar 14:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Even when the original of this article was written, presumably in 1894, the practice of métayage had passed out of use in most of France and Italy.  It needs a major rewrite. Bejnar 14:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Out-of-date

message: Here are a few thoughts on how to improve this part of the article.
*1.) We need quotes from some of the English writers who condemned the practice and maybe also one from Mill since he is mentioned.  This is needed to back up the “unanimous” assertion otherwise it is just weasel word-ish.  
*2.) Rewording to remove the “No wonders” and “not only” which are overtly opinionated.  I’ve taken the opportunity to start doing this on the section.
*3.) Distinguish what is a direct quote from a source and remove any extra-curricular commentary.  The prime example is the last paragraph which makes the POV assertion that “Métayage, in order to be in any measure worthy of commendation, must be a genuine partnership…etc” and then references a foot note to Cruveilhier, J. (1894) Étude sur le métayage Paris. As a direct quote this can be acceptable and should be properly distinguished. However in its current form it very easily gives the appearance of commentary and POV.
I’m going to seek the assistance from some of the editors who contributed primarily to this section since they should be best able to distinguish the quotes from the sources they’ve dealt with. I can work with some of wording but it seems that the real meat of the issue lies in how the sources are being utilized. Agne27 02:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, that does create a tough one. I have to admit that I'm suprised that work from the exalted 1911 would be so....well unencyclopedic, at least in the POV tone.Agne27 16:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV of the criticism section

message: Continuing the dialogue with Bejnar
As to métayage, I believe that the term is broader than the usage that you have come across so far. It is used in the French translation of Cato, as well as in the French books (listed in the article) referring to a wide variety of practices, from where the landowner furnishes nothing but the land to where he furnishes everything including the seed and hand tools. From where the landowner has no say in the production, through assisted co-management to almost complete management by the landowner or his bailiff. Bejnar 14:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Complant & Metayage

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