Talk:Renga

message: This article is part of WikiProject Poetry. Please read the guidelines set out there before editing the page. 
:Nobody needs to read any guidelines before editing this, or any other, page. Everyone should feel free to edit the page as they see fit. --Camembert
Nobody's saying the guidelines have to be adhered to, just asking for them to be read. Bmills 14:10, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I know it's just a request, but it sounds a bit like an order, and I just want to make it clear that it isn't. --Camembert
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I wrote out History and Terms, and will try to make a section "How to make a Renga" by taking previously written parts apart. Revth 16:13, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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message: Looks like we might need an expert on Japanese poetry now to make sure this is on the level.  I've done all I can for copy-editing.  See the above and the article source for further details on items I'm aware of that need help.  Cheers, Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 17:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: This section appears to be inappropriate to the project. See WP:NOTGUIDE: "While Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places, and things, a Wikipedia article should not read like a how-to style manual of instructions, advice (legal, medical, or otherwise) or suggestions, or contain how-tos." I think a lot of the info in the section could be re-cast into a less prescriptive description of how a renga typically is/was written. Thoughts?--Yumegusa (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to write a renga (or not?) 

message: There is a good deal of overlap between this article and the one on renku. In its most usual sense, 'renga' is used in contradistinction to 'renku' to describe the classical courtly ('ushin') linked verse as practised by Sogi, Socho etc. and does not normally include haikai no renga or renku. My proposal is to revise this article so as to avoid the overlap referred to above, confining it to classical renga and moving any appropriate sections to the renku article. All input with regard to this proposal gratefully received. --Yumegusa (talk) 22:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlap with renku - proposal 

message: The article currently cites Mr. Higgison's personal homepage. WP:RS is pretty clear that links to such self-published sources are unacceptable except when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. While an Amazon search did indeed indicate that Higginson's books have been published by third-party publisher's, all of those works have "haiku" in the title and do not seem to cover renga in detail. While he may know something about renga (I have no doubt that he does), his published works clearly are not in the relevant field (Wikipedia's emphasis) unless we take that field to be the (probably too broad) "Japanese poetry". The published books also seem to be focused mostly on poetic composition rather than historical or literary criticism.
Can someone provide more objective evidence that Mr. Higginson is an established expert in the field of renga? Otherwise, can we get a better source than his personal website?
elvenscout742 (talk) 13:55, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for date for ''jūnichō''