Talk:Hurry-up offense

message: Who is the idiot that thinks kneeling is a way to stop the clock?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.205.11.220 (talk) 19:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Kneeling to stop the clock?

message: Are these the same terms? the article notes that most passing plays are out plays, and there are few rushing plays; this may be accurate re: hurry-up, and 2-minute drill, where the clock is important, but is there not (at least currently) no-huddle offence that has nothing to do with saving the clock, for which these comments are not accurate?
This article is confusing. The header indicates that hurry-up offense, no-huddle offense or two-minute drill are synonymous, and then, 3 sections into the article, there's a section called "No-huddle offense"... isn't that the topic of the whole article? I think this article need some restructuring from someone with enough football knowledge. TheHYPO 00:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No huddle vs. hurry up 

message: I'm not an American football fan, so don't trust myself to edit, but the first sentence seems slightly muddled. It makes more sense (to me) if "categories" is changed to "categorised", but even then you have 'as the "two-minute drill" and even a "no-huddle offense".' That "even" looks wrong when there are only two examples given - it's like saying "World Wars are usually categorised as WW1 and even WW2"! 86.132.137.5 (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the first sentence wrong? 

message: So I removed a full section with a quick note that "no-huddle isn't pass-predominant".  I figured I'd spell this out a bit more.  The no-huddle, as discussed in this article, isn't about hurry-up in a clock sense (and perhaps that should necessitate an article split soon).  Additionally, the general notion that "smashmouth" football, however you define it, inherently uses more clock time than a no-huddle offense is quite flawed on the surface.  A quick sample of teams from the 2007 season demonstrates:
*New England, no-huddle
*Indianapolis, no-huddle
*Minnesota, smashmouth (most rushing yards per game)
*Tennessee, smashmouth (most rushes per game, highest ratio of rushing to passing plays)
*Pittsburgh, wild-card (most time of possession per game)
Doing some quick math (time of possession here, number of possessions here) ranks time per drive as:
#New England, 3:18/drive
#Pittsburgh, 3:07/drive
#Indianapolis, 3:01/drive
#Tennessee, 2:45/drive
#Minnesota, 2:34/drive
Yes, it's OR, and no, it's not going in the article -- but the contrasting view shouldn't, either, unless reliable sourcing is presented. — Lomn 15:02, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  regarding no-huddle and can't-run-clock 

message: It would be great to have more about the rule changes and controversy resulting from the no-huddle offense. I know very little about football myself and don't feel qualified to make many changes. But I'm originally from Cincinnati, and while I didn't live there at the time and didn't follow it much, the (no doubt POV) sense from fans was that the Bengals were making the game more exciting and the league was screwing them at the behest of TV advertisers and teams that weren't able to keep up.  And there were longer-term changes to limit faked injuries and around player substitutions. Bennetto (talk) 18:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rule Changes and Controversy 

message: I'm a Patriots fan, but I don't think the example given here is accurately presented. At least twice during that drive, the clock was not stopped "by rule," but rather the officials stopped the clock to measure for first downs. Samer (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example 

message: Oregon's all-game no-huddle offense under Chip Kelly seems remarkably unique.  I think with the play cards and several profiles of their strategy (e.g. in the New York Times), there is some good content there.
"Some people call it a no-huddle offense, but I call it a no-breathing offense,” Mark Asper, an Oregon offensive lineman, told me. “It’s still football. We hit people. But after a while, the guys on the other side of the line are so gassed that you don’t have to hit them very hard to make them fall over.”   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.118.73 (talk) 03:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Oregon? 

message: This article reads a bit stupidly.
Peyton Manning has ran this offense since about 1999! He's without doubt the guy people think about when you say the words "no huddle" in the modern era
Tom Brady, and Matt Ryan have used it in games, from about 2007. And it's only part of their game plan. They don't use it exclusively.
I have no idea why Manning's modern pioneering of the system is ranked behind a couple of guys who use it occasionally in games, over the last 3-4 years
80.254.158.4 (talk) 16:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  fan bias 

message: Fairly certain (according to the talk page, references) that Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn did not invent the hurry-up/no-huddle offense. Nor do I find this mentioned in the supporting reference for this statement added by Oldsoutherner.  Reverting this edit. 67.3.74.24 (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gus Malzahn