Talk:Communist Party of Canada (Marxist–Leninist)

message: Nobody has really been able to give me a good, impartial explanation of the differences between the MLPC and the CPC. The wikipedia articles start out saying that the CPC is soviet and the MLPC is Beijing aligned and more dogmatic. But then the article continues to sound as if its trying to talk itself out of this assessment (well, but then they liked Albania, and North Korea, and gee now they're their own models and less dogmatic. But they still don't like the CPC.) I tried to email both parties and get them to explain but while the CPC wrote me back something to the effect of what i have wrtitten above, the MLPC ignored me--twice! Please help. And maybe someone could take a look at the quality of this article. in grade 9 english we we were warned against talking ourselves out of our positions mid-essay. (I realise that we are NPOV here but if we are going to say that one party takes a less dynamic view then we should not contradict ourselves the next paragraph down.) I ask those who agree with me and those who don't to register their opinions here as well. Carolynparrishfan 00:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled demand

message: Does anyone know the exact relationship between the CPC-ML and the Canadian Party for Renewal?
This is what I currently know:
In 1993, a group associated with the CPC-ML attempted to register a separate political party called the Canadian Party for Renewal.  (I can remember this because of a brief meeting with Elaine Couto, a perennial CPC-ML candidate, who tried to sell me on the new party in late March '93 -- I was having supper at McMaster University at the time, she was walking from table to table handing out cards.)
The party was unable to field 50 candidates, and did not formally contest the 1993 federal election.  A number of CPR candidates ran as independents, however.
I initially thought that the CPR was simply the CPC-ML under a different name ... but I've discovered that the CPC-ML also ran official candidates in 1993.  This would seem to imply that they were separate parties ... except that several CPR candidates from 1993 ran for the CPC-ML in 1997, 2000 and 2004.
There was also an "Ontario Renewal Party", led by Diane Johnston in 1995.  Johnston is a perennial CPC-ML candidate, who also ran as an official M-L candidate in the 1993 federal election.
In 2003, the CPC-ML endorsed ten "Independent Renewal" candidates in Ontario's provincial election.  They also appear to have endorsed "Renewal" candidates in 1999.
This leaves me with two "educated guesses" on the relationship between the parties:
(i)  The CPR was a temporary breakaway group from the CPC-ML, and its members rejoined the CPC-ML later in the 1990s.
(ii)  The CPR was actually the CPC-ML under a different name, as the party was attempting to broaden its support base with a "parallel organization".
Does anyone know the answer?  CJCurrie 04:17, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian Party for Renewal

message: The story behind this is sketchy. CPC Claims Bains' was 'rejected' for membership to their party in Vancouver; yet they also claim to have his membership card to proove it. It seems funny that one rejected for membership would have a card made in the first place. I believe CPC-ML has said that he struggled against revisionism in Canada and decided to found a Communist Party since there was no real one in Canada at the time. Perhaps Bains' was a member and either quit or was kicked out (or both). In any case I'm changing the entry unless someone can show proof that he was rejected for membership.
I don't know why I forgot to sign the above... --Mista-X 16:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardial Bains' CPC membership 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Cpcml.jpg

message: The story about Douglas "disarming" a CPC-ML member is hearsay at best; and in any case rallies are filled with hundreds of people. If this story really happened there is no confirmation it was actually a party member or just a random person at the rally, or even a  undercover cop for that matter! Therefor I will remove that paragraph if it is re added unless actual proof can be provided. --Mista-X (talk) 13:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tommy Douglas: martial arts master

message: The new website URL is "cpcml.ca" — Preceding unsigned comment added by PROFUNC (talk • contribs) 08:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: done.Skookum1 (talk) 08:26, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the website 

message: Recent revisions by User:JB1917 emphasize the need for properly sourced information and an editorial tone that is neutral.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooremedia (talk • contribs) 17:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision tone and need for references 

message: I made a lot of edits to this article and no doubt spelling and grammer and wikipedia style was in need of improvement -- but then a user completely deleted all the work I had done. If there are problems with this article, lets talk! The edits were described as  *cough cough* obsessive, not meeting Wikipedia standards, or scholarly standards, and being questionable in motive. To get the discussion going, I just want to say that everything was sourced and that it is very difficult to find sources about the CPC-ML that (a) were written by that party or a supporter or (b) were written by groups hostile to the CPC-ML. Nevertheless the CPC-ML has a very dynamic and colourful history which is quite different from the CPC and deserves to be told. --JB1917 (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mass deletions? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I would like to clean up this section, particularly on the CPC-ML's status as a cult / Bain's legacy. It seems to me that it relies too much on anecdotes without much hard facts -- both in the positive (he's remembered in India) and in the negative (one person's terrible experience with the party). For a single wikipedia page, I think this should be shorter and more focused. Dsakey1978 (talk) 14:57, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bains' death and legacy 

message: I'm just asking because that's what they are registered as, what they are known as, and the current title might cause some confusion with the other Communist party. Or am I missing something here? LunaTheMoon2 (talk) 03:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Possible confusion is not a sufficient reason to move the article. If distinguishing parentheses weren't enough, none of these articles would exist with their current names. Yue🌙 04:07, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, it wasn't just the confusion. I meant, like, they're registered with Elections Canada as the Marxist-Leninist Party, and while they refer to themselves as both on their website, the first header you see says "Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada", so I feel like that title might be more fitting as MLPC seems to be the dominant name of theirs (and yes, I am aware that the url is cpcml.com, I'm not denying the CPC-ML branding I'm just pointing out that MLPC seems to be the more dominant name). LunaTheMoon2 (talk) 02:33, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be renamed the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada? 

message: I am appeling to you as a senators and requesting to you protect the people of Europe from the families you have deported because they did not wanted to work there and get money from the social Germany to pay their Credits to your universieties and they were so uneducated that someone had to talk for them to buy a machine for Jewellery from a village in Germany as an example. It seemed they emmigrated there for having children and got  money from the islamic millitary and a degree in Cosmetics. Now they are in Europe and they seem they do not even talk in English. Did you ask what they were doing there?
Now they are here and they want to get money from the social system in Europe make children again and they get money again from the islamic millitary again this time for their family.
Do people in your universities do not speak in Egnlish? 
They all behave like they are a tribe  form Iran and have attacked our homes with what ever they could and steal whatever they could with jihadis from Syria, who work for Bashar Assad. They just hid their canadian passport this time. When they got there they hid their iranian passports.
What is this?Who is responsible for jewellery industry for islamic mullas in your country in Canada? What the f**ck is this?  
You people in Canada live in one of the most peacefull countries of all. Why these people emmigrated here again? Why do you support them? They are here for Opium it seems and drugs! They could go to Neatherlands. You could have suggested them at least to go there.
They made explosions in Karl-Fischer-Weg! An electrical car and in front of a building with german soldiers. You are not allowd to this in Europe. They have attacked us in the registration office. 
I am also member of a political party in Germany also and I was a journalist of a work association  as your citizens attacked me. They stole my Laptop and cellphone and my Work in Music.
                                                                Nagisa Ghaffari 194.94.134.90 (talk) 09:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be renamed the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada? II