Talk:14th Dalai Lama/Archive 1

message: What about the fact that he is considered by some to have been erroneously identified? I haven't included this in my edit because I don't know exactly what this is about. --Anon
What was wrong with the original location, Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama? --Jiang 07:26, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea; British royalty titles are like that, generally... :-? ugen64 23:18, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)
Of course I mean Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama...stupid me, not checking.  At any rate, given that he's universally called the "Dalai Lama", this seems to be on a par with including British peers' titles, isn't it? john k 07:26, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: Let's do that for all the Dalai Lamas then. --Jiang 06:42, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: If the current Dalai Lama speaks excellent English, as the article claims, why does he have an interpreter, and have his books reviewed by his interpreter (as noted in "The Art of Happiness" and "The Art of Happiness at Work")? I've also found online articles that refer to his "broken English". The claim that he speaks excellent English sounds suspect to me, so I'm changing it to just that he speaks English. ShaneKing 11:40, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard him spesk on TV briefly. Couldn't tell if he's eloquent in English or not. But his pronuciation was okay. The accent wasn't too strong. Either way, I cannot attest to his fluency. Although that remark certainly impressed me greatly. --Menchi 07:31, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: I object to the use of "His Holiness" in the begining of the article, this is certainly a POV. And incidentally bears no relationship with any traditional title he has in Tibetan.
It is Wikipedia policy to it. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 17:27, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The 14th Dalai Lama is His Holiness! If you dont want to use that, then simply say the Dalai Lama, but that is also a special name for him. You need to ask yourself why you don't want to use HH and start from there. All the best to  you! Me 03:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His Holiness

message: As a upcoming event I would like to notice that the Dalai Lama will visit Switzerland from 05.08.2005 to 12.08.2005. Unfortunately the swiss-govenment is not al originally planned willing to receive him as a official represent of the tibet (on pressure of china) but as a represent of the buddhist religion.
thedalailama2005.ch
helohe 12:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Dalai Lama will visit Switzerland 

message: I have just written a stub for the Tibet House, and I think this needs to be mentioned in 'International' section, as there is already a reference to co-founder Richard Gere.--demonburrito 12:43, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tibet House 

message: As well as being the most influential spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism, the Dalai Lama traditionally claims to be Tibet's Head of State and most important political ruler.
A tricky one! While it may be true that Mongolia, China and the monasteries all claim to be the One True Government of Tibet, this seems a bit much: it sounds like the DL is a bit like Emperor Norton I of the United States of America, which is not true. The monasteries are historically the only local government of Tibet. Any other claimants have been foreign. (preceding unsigned comment by User:Taejo)
:Emperor Norton I did claim to be the emperor of the United States. If it could be shown that the DL believes himself to be HoS, then that is the case, regardless. The keyword is claims. The statement is factual.--demonburrito 12:22, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims 

message: Is this article ready for Peer Review? And is there anyone willing to make the changes suggested during that period? Falphin 22:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review

message: I'm not seeing anything about him ruling a brutally oppressive serfdom. Isn't that kinda, y'know, relevant?--Deridolus 19:35, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Yeeeah, about the ''serfs...''

message: I changed the introduction section (i.e. removed His Holiness) to bring the article in line with the current consensus in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies).
Concerning the infobox of the Dalai Lama styles itself: Isn't Kundun one of his styles as well? Gugganij 21:18, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Holiness 

message: Hi, added some info in the Criticisms section about the CIA funding and training.
Acrilico 06:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIA 

message: Meditation is currently a nominee on WP:IDRIVE. If you would like to see this article improved vote for it on WP:IDRIVE.--Fenice 15:32, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement Drive

message: I don't know enough about the "ref" template to be sure what to do about this, but the mixture of "ref" references and single-square-bracket references is causing the "ref" references at the bottom of the page to be misnumbered relative to the footnote numbers in the text. User:Glenn Willen (Talk) 06:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have re-switched to use the "misnumbered relative" for now. Besides I think the way the "ref" template was used was much to complicated that it should be. See Mandan for an example of a good use. --Khoikhoi 02:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference numering 

message: I've added a POV mark to please all the people arguing down there. hopfully this will bring some peace and quiet to his holiness's wikipedia page. Pure inuyasha 00:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There hasn't been any arguing here for weeks.  Unless you're planning to start some, I'll remove the tag. Mark1 01:16, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Mark1 12:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV Mark 

message: I do hope that those question marks really are his name in Tibetan with the correct font.  Though it might be quite amusing if they did turn out to be just question marks... Mark1 01:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm using Mac OS X and I can see it fine. --Khoikhoi 03:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have several Tibetan fonts installed on Win XP & I can't read it. It's just a row of boxes. Does anyone know which font has been used? I think the only way to overcome this problem is to make a gif image of the Tibetan. More systems will see a gif than read Tibetan scripts. --Bodhirakshita 05:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Tibetan script 

message: The Dalai Lama has repeated time and againhis opposition to abortion andhomosexuality, but a reading of the section dealing with this, it would be hard to ascertain his political and social leaning.  
Only once during his North American tour did I hear him express even a modest "modification" of his stance on gay relationships, for instance. 
To a question about homosexuality to aSeattle audience he said "nature arranged male and female organs "in such a manner that is very suitable... Same-sex organs cannot manage well." But he stopped short of condemning homosexual relationships altogether, saying if two people agree to enter a relationship that is not sexually abusive, "then I don't know. It's difficult to say." 
This view is quite different from what appears in the Wikipedia entry which I believe to be, frankly, misleading.  I suspect a sympathetic writer modified the text to give the religious leader a softer, more acceptable persona.
::I don't really see your objections. The abortion text more or less allows him to speak for himself, with a direct, attributed quote from the New York Times. Regarding homosexuality, all of the information is clearly referenced and sourced with highly credible sources, including another direct quote from his own book. I don't see how direct quotes in full context can be misleading. The sources you provide don't contradict the article at all. Sylvain1972 20:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually he/she is right, the DL is against homosexuality, but will soft sell this to a Western audience.  Which leads me to the conclusion that there'll never be a major religious figure who doesn't have his head up his @ss.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.95.65.186 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position on Global Social Issues 

message: http://www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/hhdlgeneral/hhdlg36.html
Should this be included?  The page claims china shut its borders with mongolia when the dalai lama visited that nation.Evilbu 21:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  mongolia shut borders 

message: I have a problem with the use of the term "reincarnation" in a Buddhist context. Reincarnation implies the repeated incarnation of an eternal soul or essence. Buddhists don't believe in an eternal soul. The preferred English term is "rebirth". See Reincarnation & Rebirth --Bodhirakshita 05:50, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reincarnation vs rebirth