Talk:Willie wagtail

message: Can this page be re-named please?  It's spelt wrong - they're willy wagtails not willie wagtails.
Please sign your posts (put 4 of these ~ at the end). I agree. Unless there has been a ruling by ICZN or some other authority that the spelling is now "willie" wagtail, they are properly "willy" wagtails. There are a number of organisations (some ref'd in the article) who spell it incorrectly but that doesn't make it true. I will move this article to Willy Wagtail if nobody objects. Is there a tag for this? Secret Squïrrel 04:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Have moved the page back.  'Willie' is correct spelling.  See: Christidis & Boles, HANZAB and Schodde & Mason.  These are the authoritative sources for Australian bird names. Maias 00:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Willie is correct

message: I've added another photo of a Wagtail to the gallery, I hope no one objects to it. It does tie in nicely with the others nesting as this one was nesting and it started to dive bomb me.Clinton1550 (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's nice and shows the primaries really well but is a little dark (presumably because of the sky backround). Any chance of pushing the gamma up to brighten the dark areas (ie most of the subject!). Should be able to do it without "overexposing" the background. Thanks, Secret Squïrrel, approx 09:30, 28 February 2008 (Earth Standard Time)
I can add a revised version in the next couple of daysClinton1550 (talk) 12:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Lovely. Secret Squïrrel, approx 00:40, 2 March 2008 (Earth Standard Time)</font>
I have added a little video, feel free to flex your edit muscle and delete if redundant Tradimus (talk) 11:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo Gallery 

message: This article meets the GA criteria. The full review can be found here. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: I ran a quick ce, nothing much of note. 
#Tail wagging seems to be mentioned at least four times.
#ssp size, I assume larger/smaller are compared to nominate, not sure that's clear
#anything on status?
jimfbleak (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Very nice article, Cas, though I would expect nothing less.  A few comments for now, I can finish later:
*due to its accompanying of livestock sounds awkward.  Maybe because it accompanied livestock?  Does this mean it was often found near livestock?  Also, I'd put this item first or last in the list since it's the only one with an explanation. (done)
*ravens, shrikes, birds of paradise, monarch flycatchers, drongos and mudnest builders--I found it odd that these weren't wikilinked. (good pick, up)
*the nominate subspecies, is the most widely distributed subspecies found in Australia--Could you elide the second subspecies? (done)
*I think you could probably do away with "The description below refers to it" and add "than leucophrys" in the two places it's needed.  You could also expand There is negligible variation to There is negligible variation among the subspecies, if that's what this sentence is trying to say.  It seems to be contradicted by It is significantly larger. (clarified)
*I think the MOS discourages approx in favor of about, but I could be wrong. 
*Immature birds... while juvenile birds for us readers unfamiliar with birds, what's the difference between immature and juvenile?  Ideally, there could be an age range, if you could find it. (sort of - its based on first moult after fledging. better)
*the last bird seen was at Koko Head in 1937--This reads a little awkward to me.  Maybe the last bird to be sighted? the last sighting?  the last time one was sighted?  Still not perfect. (just 'last sighting' then - agree it is tricky)
*If you want to drop a wagging reference per Jimfbleak, I'd recommend the one in the description section. (yep)
Back in a bit. delldot talk 15:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: need to follow this up. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  placeholder 

message: Nice to see Willy wagtail featured in POD, but apart from photogperfection, admit the bird itself the scrappiest state of a wagtail I've seen. Even in the bush wild, they're more sartorial than this. :) If this is a moulting state, should it be mentioned in the caption? Julia Rossi (talk) 08:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. It never clicked with me that it was moulting, which is obvious when you look at the state of it. I wasn't confident enough to categorically state it though. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pic of the day

message: I'm not so sure about the breeding season. I've seen other websites listing the breeding season as: up to January and even February. And, I've been observing a pair in my backyard, and they have recently bread in January too, and possibly beyond that. (I lost track of them at that point, their nests are hard to spot) Vince (talk) 11:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it could be later if you're further south. The tricky bit is sourcing. I have been tempted to put material based on personal observation before but we stick to Reliable Sources here. If I get a chance I might look again at what sources say - if you find one that says they breed later then it can be changed/added. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Marchant (1974) gives the breeding season as mid-August to late January. Melburnian (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breeding season 

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message: Sorry, I'm not an expert so don't mind my lack of jargon.
I was looking for and found a small list of predators in the 'breeding' topic and thought it might deserve its own section. I would like to add goannas as a predator, but don't have 'evidence', just what I saw when I spent the summer (21 Dec - 4 Jan) at my folks' place down near Tamworth. Maybe someone could look into a real reference for it? Anyway, here's the tale if it's worth anything:
I watched a nest of 4 newborns being fed and protected by their parents (that chit-chit-chit noise can get really annoying!). One day I heard the parents going off like mad along with a few other birds in the reserve which sits beside the property, and went out to investigate. A goanna (markings similar to a Spencer, Lace, or Perentie http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/goannas-monitor-lizards.html - again no expert and the colouring was much bolder - dark brown and yellow/orange) was making its way through the reserve to the property. I watched the adult making the cranky parent noise and the babies ducked down in the nest (the nest sits on top of the downpipe under the roof and the adult was flying around but not close to it); the other went flitting from a gum tree about 20 metres away to snip at the goanna several times in a way that looked like it wanted to get its attention. When the lizard climbed the tree and realized there was no nest, it climbed down again, but must've been far enough away that the other adult could join in the fight, and they both swooped and chitted at it until it went slinking farther back in the reserve.
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message: The article name is confusing to Irish readers, as in Ireland "Willie wagtail" is a common name for the white wagtail (Motacilla alba). (Sources in newspapers 12 and in books both recent and old) I would suggest moving to the unambiguous Rhipidura leucophrys per WP:FAUNA Sheila1988 (talk) 23:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested move

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved. The proposal and the arguments for it have gained no traction. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:26, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Willie wagtail →  – article name is confusing to Irish readers, as in Ireland "Willie wagtail" is a common name for the white wagtail (Motacilla alba). (Sources in newspapers 12 and in books both recent and old) I would suggest moving to the unambiguous Rhipidura leucophrys per WP:FAUNA Sheila1988 (talk) 20:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Oppose: Ditto with above. KakarikiNZ (talk) 08:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 July 2022