Talk:Zhang Yimou

message: A chinese film history professor told me Zhang exposed his father as a KMT sympathizer to the Chinese Communist Party when he was 15, and had him arrested.  Does anyone know if this is true? --NEMT 02:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe so, I'm pretty sure Kaige Chen was compelled into red guard activities, as many of his films contain an anti-mao slant (emperor and assassin when compared to hero, most notably), whereas Zhang Yimou appears to have actively embraced it and openly endorses chinese sabre rattling.  I may also just be remembering all of this incorrectly though, as it would be a pretty big coincidence if both had similar stories about their fathers, despite different beliefs. --NEMT 05:11, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you click on the link? It's pretty well established that Chen Kaige denounced his own father (just do a google search to see interviews where he himself discusses it). His attitudes in his films are perhaps a direct reflection of his remorse over his actions.Tryptofeng 05:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: CCP involvement?

message: Equitable fines based on total nett asset. A flat 10,000 yuan fine would be painful to a lower class earner, but to Zhang Yimou, that would be nothing. Use a 
percentage total nett asset based fine instead, probably 30% of net asset, since overpopulation could destroy China? So if Zhang is worth 100 million, the fine 
should be 33.3 million. For that lower earner say for example, if worth 50,000 in totality, the fine should be 16,666 yuan instead - also 30%. The fine of 1.23 million yuan is nothing to the USD$70,000,000 US Dollars that Zhang Yimou has which equals 423.6 MILLION Yuan and is a mere 0.25% of Zhang's entire wealth. Just totally unfair as opposed to the poor. Using a percetiage based fine would be equitable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:4000:15:1C39:8F3B:8AEE:CB75 (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Inequitable Fine in Context of Net Asset Effectively Nullifying the Law for the Rich

message: So I'm not really a fan of the current format of the article, in particular the movie by movie division. It feels disjointed and it becomes kind of difficult to discuss the bigger trends in Zhang's films (i.e. the recent big budget films and their backlash, the mid-early 90s streak of international art house hits, and the early forays into film in the 80s). Anyone else agreeTryptofeng 15:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Format?

message: Why is it stated that he 'had to sell his blood'? He did not have to sell his blood, he chose to sell his blood. During his university years he was financially supported by his peasant wife, who did not earn very much. He repaid her by having affairs and finally dumping her. A great film director he may be, but his character defect is that he has no sense of responsibility to or respect for anyone who sacrificed their life to help him and give him what he desired. This is reflected in his directing, there are lots of superficial effects such as the intense colors, but no deeper meaning than the 'I must have' attitude. 217.42.58.201 (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Was he married at 18?  Anyway, it was during the Cultural Revolution that he sold his blood, I don't think anyone can get by without doing any work. He did work in a textile mill. BTW "had to sell his blood" simply means he has no money to purchase a camera otherwise. DORC (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever the case with the note above (source please?), the notes about his propaganda on behalf of the CCP shouldn't be ignored or dusted away.--Asdfg12345 06:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What propaganda?  Zhang Yimou has already stated many times he is not interested in politics. 121.6.96.194 (talk) 16:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This guy is heartless. 86.181.64.13 (talk) 02:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character 

message: The birthdate is listed variously as 1950 or 1951. For 1951, see    . For 1950 see  . For both see this new york times bio . Keep in mind that the Wikipedia source has probably been used elsewhere, possibly erroneously. For note, it was originally listed as 1950 on this article, but changed by this edit.
I don't know which is correct, but someone with some more reliable sources would be appreciated. Edit summaries and sources help clear up confusions over these sorts of things, so please use them if you make edits that change long-standing information. Shadowjams (talk) 04:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: More 1950 sources,  and  -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 05:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Here it is from Zhang Yimou's wife, on the occasion of his 65th birthday, via  Beijing's China International Publishing Group - April 2, 1950 (2015 - 65 = 1950) Fb2ts (talk) 19:10, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

message: While copy editing this article for the Guild of Copy Editors September drive, in addition to working on style, grammar, etc, I've also done a number of other things. I've removed quite a lot of unsourced commentary and analysis which had been tagged since 2008 or early 2009, and have replaced some examples with material taken from articles about Zhang's films themselves, and I've also removed some of the more excessive flowery praise. I've also standardized on British English, which appeared to be the dominant version (and I hope I haven't missed any), and have removed some overlinking. I was unable to resolve the contradictory reports of Zhang's year of birth, and could only add another couple of inconclusive sources to the talk section above. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy edit, September 2010 

message: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/world/asia/filmmaker-zhang-yimou-walks-a-fine-line-in-china.html by Edward Wong
97.87.29.188 (talk) 20:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  potential [[NYT]] resource 

message: I was hoping this article would clearly state which films were cleared by sarft and distributed domestically, and which ones only went overseas (like "to Live").  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.46.80.2 (talk) 08:35, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disribution 

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message: Nothing about his personal life?  Including the fact that he had a long relationship with Gong Li, the lead actress in so many of his films?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.215.34 (talk) 02:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationships 

message: In 2010, Yimou was invited to serve as a mentor for the Rolex Mentor and Protégé Arts Initiative, an international philanthropic programme that pairs masters in their disciplines with emerging talents for a year of one-to-one creative exchange. Out of a very gifted field of candidates, Yimou chose Annemarie Jacir as his protégée.http://www.rolexmentorprotege.com/pairing/2010-2011/zhang_yimou_and_annemarie_jacir
RMP2014 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request 

message: Please be consistent and don't mix traditional and simplified Chinese. --2.245.158.51 (talk) 23:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmography 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The reference librarian at what we used to think was the  world's first public library got back to us already.
:The 2016 Marquis Who's Who in the World gives Zhang Yimou's date of birth as 11-14-1951. The International Dictionary of Films and Filmmakers gives 11-14-1950. The New Biographical Dictionary of Film and the Historical Dictionary of Chinese Cinema only give a year of birth, but both give 1951. The introduction to Zhang Yimou: Interviews also gives the 11-14-1951 date, citing, apparently, Berry's Perspectives on Chinese Cinema. Most of the reference works to which the BPL offers electronic access reproduce the 11-14-1951 date, but some express uncertainty by giving the year as 1950/1951.
The email continues:
 
:The ideal source if extant would be some kind of official birth record; see this article and the attached entry from the 2009 International Vital Records Handbook for some historical information and recommendations for pursuing Chinese vital records. 
What do you think? Is that funny or what? The "attached entry" suggests that we contact
# The Ministry of Public Security (Snail Mail in Beijing) - I'm inclined to Circular File this one.
# The Genealogical Research Center at the the Shanghai Library - where they give an email address. That seems like a good lead.
# The Embassy of the People's Republic of China in Washington, DC (202) 328-2500 . . . hmmmm. I admit to being kinda curious.
And then we could see if we can get some kind of feedback from Zhang Yimou's wife, in lieu of an "Official Birth Record". Just because a self-described Official Outlet of the PRC says they got the date from her  Chinese equivalent of a Facebook page, complete with a picture and what appear to be an aMAZingly fancy birthday cake, doesn't prove that it's REALLY Zhang Yimou's Wife's Chinese equivalent of a Facebook page - web security, photoshop and elaborate hoaxes being what they are - and even if it was her, she could be lying, for some reason, and trying to suggest that her husband is older than he actually is. 
But then, maybe all those other sources just got the date from imdb... or Wikipedia before December 24, 2016.
Even though Google is currently giving the April 2, 1950 birthdate, maybe they just got it from Wikipedia - AFTER December 24, 2016. 
Fb2ts (talk) 14:24, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The Marquis Who's Who is apparently not what it used to be. On another note: I just noticed an Edit Request from 2014 (see above) that seems like it ought to be in the article. What do you think? Zhang Yimou heard about the program from gunpowder artist Cai Guo-Qiang, when they were working together on the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics. He chose Palestinian Annemarie Jacir. The Edit Request links to an article with an interview of the mentor & protege (see below). Highly recommended. That's where I got the detail about selling his own blood to buy his first camera (which I just added). Fb2ts (talk) 19:36, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: The Plot Thickens

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message: Shouldn't we add Zhang's 2015 film Lady of the Dynasty《王朝的女人·杨贵妃》to the Filmography section of this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 04:21, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 2015 film