Talk:Crypto.com Arena

message: It seems the Los Angeles Avengers are now defunct.  I added the word "formerly" before their inclusion on the list of currently hosted franchises, with the intention of a quick -- albeit temporary -- fix.  I'm not sure if this devalidates the statement that it's the "only arena to host five professional sport franchises," as I'm not really sure what we're including under that definition.  If the NBA D-League team counts, then the statement still stands, otherwise it needs to be retracted.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.213.54 (talk) 10:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Avengers

message: Just because the official title is in all caps, doesn't nessecarily mean that it has to be all caps here on wikipedia. For example, the Miami Heat are offically the Miami "HEAT" on thier websites, but the name is rendered "Heat" when it is referenced in stories. Than same is true with the Staples Center. Maybe we should use the correct media style guide, not the "official" guideline. Dknights411 16:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with that since most media articles I've seen all spell out STAPLES Center as Staples Center.3bulletproof16 23:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: All Caps?

message: Wrestling is an important billion dollar industry with a long history and worldwide interest and notability. Add to that the wrestling gave this venue its biggest attendance ever for an event, these references should be here (hint; those wrestling wikilinks go somewhere). Hypnosadist 23:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The notability of wrestling comes from the tickets to shows it sells at places like the staples center and the TV revinue generated and the coverage in the media. You obviously do not like wrestling, thats all well and good, but it is a notable part of world culture. Hypnosadist 23:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  See my user page for my last word on the pseudo-sport. If professional wrestling has become a "notable part of world culture", Armageddon can not come soon enough. I Always Win 23:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sockpuppet opinions don't mean much on Wikipedia. Oh, the fact that WrestleMania 23 had more than 80,000 people and that WWE RAW (which has been on TV every week for the last 14 years) continues to get millions of viewers every week make it pretty notable. TJ Spyke 00:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrestling

message: I'm wondering if the Staples Center attendance record is 20,262 instead of 20,193 because on Februry 23, 2008 when the Lakers played the Clippers the attendance was 20,262, and the article says it's 20,193 from Wrestlemania 21. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.61.163 (talk) 04:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a reliable source for the new record, then yes, please correct it and be sure to provide an inline citation. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Corrections, the actual attendance record is 20,820 set by the Shane Mosley vs Antonio Margarito Welterweight fight in January 2009. It broke the previous attendance record of 20,193 set by WWE WrestleMania 21 on April 3rd, 2005.--Nascarking (talk) 20:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Attendance Record

message: I thought I'd just mention here that I have removed parts of the text in the section "The arena" as it was written like an advertisement. I do also have concerns that part of the "Future developments" section may violate WP:NPOV but I have left the section untouched so that if necessary, it can be discussed.  Thanks. Tbo 157(talk) 18:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have taken this a step further. The article is still missing citations for various "facts," it contains statements that, without citations, appear to be based on original research, and since much of it sounds like a press release for the arena, I suspect that it may have been edited by someone with a conflict of interest. These are all tags that I've added to this article before, I know, but nothing has been done to this article, IMHO, to warrant their removal. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whoops...actually, the citation problem is that all of them are from AEG, the owner of the arena. There are no citations from independent sources, even though it is a virtually certainty that they are available. I'll remove the citations missing tag, but this is a concern. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 18:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Can I just say that the comment "It is the only arena that is home to five professional sports franchises" is actually false and misleading. For example, in Australia, the MCG is home to 5 'franchises' in the AFL alone, let alone cricket, soccer and rugby. You may want to re-word that sentence so it doesn't completely mislead people. Cheers --122.49.155.20 (talk) 05:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading 

message: The Facts and Timeline sections that were in this article were nothing more than a trivia section. This material needs to be incorporated into the prose. It also contains some rather useless trivia. I don't have time to make these edits, so I just combined them into a trivia section and added the trivia flag to the Articleissues template. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 00:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facts and Timeline sections = Trivia section 

message: Why are the JBA, LA Ballers even listed in this article? And why are they listed as still active?
I AM TRYING TO FIND A LAYOUT OR A BLUEPRINT OF THE INSIDE OF A SPORTS ARENA AND I CANT FIND ONE ANYWHERE. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND OUT WHAT THE INSIDES OF AN ARENA LOOKS LIKE?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.203.97 (talk) 17:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WHY 

message: I've removed a bunch of the performers/artists who have appeared in concert at Staples Center and have added the fact template for each of those listed, since they are all unreferenced. Hopefully, none will be added unless they are of tremendous notability as there is no need for this article to list every single artist who has performed in concert at Staples Center. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 08:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed a bunch of performers/artists 

message: Can someone more skilled at editing than me please add in the history that in 2011, 2012 and 2013 the center hosted the League of Legends world championships final. I realize pro gaming may not be the most famous sport ATM but it is still a major event that attracts large crowds both live and watching online.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.196.18 (talk) 17:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  League of Legends world championship missing 

message: why? If the pipe chacarter was intentional, then you should probably add comment or put the  part in comment, which is used for comments, pipe characters in such places could confuse editors. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 10:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello all, I saw that some editors have added "The House that Kobe Built" as the nickname for the Staples Center. I'm seeing some news outlets, including CBS Los Angeles, CNN, and HuffPost, among others. I'm only seeing quotes and not much secondary coverage. These sources are only quoting other people. I want to see if there is any consensus or no consensus to include the nickname in the infobox and main article. --  LuK3  (Talk) 13:37, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It would need WP:RS to be included which clearly demonstrates it has long been widely used and genuine nickname/alternative name, not just a currently repeated phrase at a moment of nationale outpouring of grief. I know nothing about this topic, but I did revert the inclusion of that name, citing a CBS source as my rationale (diff). Interestingly, in a chance discussion about it at WP:AN, the same source was suggested as a rationale for keeping it, which I dismissed. I would want to see far better sources then mere mentions if the phrase were to be added as a 'nickname'. Maybe it's just WP:TOOSOON.  Nick Moyes (talk) 12:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks . I am seeing more sources mentioning the phrase but they are still quoting other people. I'm going to keep an eye out for other sources that are mentioning the phrase. --  LuK3  (Talk) 13:34, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, me too - and some may have picked up on seeing Wikipedia bearing that phrase, until they were reverted. I am a totally uninvolved editor, with no axe to grind either way, and not from the US. I just feel there is a difference between stating a nickname as a genuine historic epithet, based upon good sources,, and current feelings of grief towards a highly-respected player. I have, however, added a paragraph in the 'History' section which refers to this phrase, which I believe is totally valid to put in. I would really like to see some pre-January 2020 reliable sources demonstrating that it was already a valid and commonly-used nickname. Additions of a 'nickname' to the infobox using sources following his death seem less reliable and more emotionally respectful, that's all. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:28, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The House that Kobe Built" 

message: The JBA Los Angeles (LA) Ballers tenant reference should be removed. JBA teams did not have home arenas. 184.66.2.182 (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done JTP (talk • contribs) 01:42, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2020 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved, effective Christmas Day.  Sceptre (talk) 17:24, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Staples Center →  – Crypto.com Arena will change from Staples Center on Dec. 25. 2600:100E:BE1A:2875:CAA:5CBE:67C9:A981 (talk) 19:49, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 December 2021 

message: I moved the page and changed everything in this article. So all is good for the official changeover which is now 12 hours away according to my watch. I also made changes on other pages to reflect the name change. Hope this helps. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 20:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: While this is pretty uncommon, wait until it actually takes effect next time please. You changed it at 7:30 AM California time which 16 and a half hours before it officially took effect. We have to wait until things officially take effect and it's usually the exact time in the time zone. I know it seems a little nit picky, but it's not technically Crypto.com Arena until midnight California time on December 25.--Rockchalk717 05:15, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I understands. Thats fine. I had already taken care of the name change on the Harry Reid International Airport page and I did it within 24 hours prior to the name change of that airport. Now that the name change is effective for Crypto.com Arena, I am noticing some redundancy being added (sometimes to this page) and to other pages that mention the venue, so that seems to be important right now to ensure articles don't get overly redundant with mentions of the prior name. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 15:40, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

text: I hear you. It’s all good. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

text: So I hear that it won't be until the summer certain renovations will be done and I believe that includes the installation of the new signage. This means we may have to wait several more months before getting newer photos of the arena we can put up. We just got to wait. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 03:23, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  New photo has been added! It is worth noting that the arena name has not been put onto the exterior of the arena yet. I'm not sure when that is happening but the current photo will do just fine for now. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like they're gonna wait until summer like you mentioned? Either way glad I could help! Troutfarm27 (Talk) 20:33, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: Do any of you live near the arena? If so it would be great if someone could get a new photo of the venue with the new signage up. All the photos on the page now say Staples Center, but if we can at least get a new one to put at the top that would be wonderful. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 20:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: So I hear that it won't be until the summer certain renovations will be done and I believe that includes the installation of the new signage. This means we may have to wait several more months before getting newer photos of the arena we can put up. We just got to wait. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 03:23, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  New photo has been added! It is worth noting that the arena name has not been put onto the exterior of the arena yet. I'm not sure when that is happening but the current photo will do just fine for now. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like they're gonna wait until summer like you mentioned? Either way glad I could help! Troutfarm27 (Talk) 20:33, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: New photo?

message: I keep seeing users re-adding the former name "Staples Center" under the top photo in the infobox. I find this overly redundant. Firstly, in the photo, it says Staples Center. You can see it just by viewing the photo, so you can tell that's the former name. At the top of the article, the former name appears in boldface. Lastly, in the infobox, there is a header for the former name and the former name Staples Center is mentioned. There really is no real need to constantly be mentioning the former name more than its mentioned. Mentioning it at the top of the article is fine as the name change is recent. Mentioning it in the infobox under the former name header is perfectly logical as it reflects the venue's history. Beyond that mentioning it in the photo caption just makes the article overly redundant. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 15:36, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I hear you. So why don’t we just compromise by saying “Exterior of the Arena as seen in 2012”. Obviously that photo was taken before the name change and that’s why I suggested that someone get an updated photo of the exterior of the arena with the new signage. Yes, the photo does contradict that logo that is up there, so this is why I feel that this is a reasonable compromise as relevant points have been made by both sides.--IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 20:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's perfect.  I've also made similar edits to the "Image gallery" section. 162 etc. (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This totally works! Thanks! I hear that they don’t have all the new signage up yet. I don’t know when that will be complete but when it is, hopefully we will have photos available to us with the new signage that can be included in the article. We just got to be patient, but we’ll get there. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 02:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentions of former name

message: This is just an idea, but I’m curious as to how you all feel. Do any of you feel that it might be worthwhile to add a new section to the article about the history of the naming rights? Two different companies have had naming rights to the venue already and perhaps it’s not a bad idea to add a new section. In addition to the venue having two different names over the past two decades, during the Olympics and Paralympics the venue will temporarily have a completely different name because apparently the sports venues can’t have a corporate name during the Olympics. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 20:28, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: New section on the history of the naming rights?

message: Some users appear to be giving the venue a nickname; "The Crypt". The name just changed and its too soon for the venue to have a nickname for the name change. If it were to stick around as a nickname amongst the public and it the reference were to be sourced then maybe. But if "The House the Kobe Built" can't be included, I don't see why "The Crypt" would be included. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 15:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: "The Crypt"