Talk:Northstar (character)

message: Do we really need that picture of Northstar in the swimsuit issue? It does not seem relevant in any way, especially in the sexuality section. 24.218.65.219 16:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Swimisuit

message: Firstly, I am not sure why we need to make “Northstar” a section heading when it is the name of the article. 
Secondly, I tried to put the description of his superpowers in more layman terms.
Thirdly, I like the Byrne comments. They help readers understand his intentions in making the character gay and how he slipped his homosexuality under the radar, but do we need to print verbatim everything Byrne said, especially considering that a lot of it deals with fledging out the Alpha Flight characters in general and perceiving the others as straight? I do think it would be good if someone could provide a link to that post. But I don’t think the article needs all of it. --70.20.74.137 23:56, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2044&KW --DrBat 12:15, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  recent edits 

message: Mantle also attempted to explain some of Northstar’s more gay-seeming traits by revealing that he and Aurora were actually members of a fairy race, but this later was retconed
No, he was making fun of Northstar's sexuality (a fairy is a derogatory term for a gay man). After Marvel wouldnt let Mantlo off Northstar via AIDS, he did that and wrote him off the book. --DrBat 12:20, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mantlo 

message: :This month was notable for Marvel killing Northstar in three seperate timelines within the space of one calendar month, between the 16th of February and the 9th of March 2005 (as well as W25, the new version of the Age of Apocalypse and X-Men: The End). This is believed to be unheard of in Marvel Comics. It is possible that this may have just been a coincidence, however.
Do we need this? It implies homophobia on Marvel's part which was not the case.First of all, most writers write their issues ahead of time so titles usually dont coincide with events (i.e.Colossus has been back for several months yet the Uncanny issue that deals with his return has yet to come out). 
*Wolverine #25-Northstar didnt stay dead for one issue.
*X-Men: The End-Characters have been killed off since the first issue. Northstar had a pretty good death, also. Dying and then being reunited with Alpha Flight.
*AOA-In the AoA universe, Northstar and Aurora were villains (along with a Mengele-type Beast and Havok, who killed his own brother). We also had a mentally unstable Colossus who ended up killing Kitty Pryde. Northstar being a villain in that timeline wasnt homophobic (and the original series was written by Lobdell, who outed Northstar). Nor was the AoA Wolverine killing Northstar (and didnt NS resemble Nosferatu in the new AOA mini?)--DrBat 23:34, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
:*coincidence or not, it's noteworthy. no homophobia on marvel's part need be implied; we can just mention the unusual timing. -leigh (φθόγγος) 04:07, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
::*Exactly, which is why I put it in. Whatever the motives (even if it is a complete accident), it's a noteworthy fact in any article about a character - SoM 17:31, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvel killing Northstar in three seperate timelines 

message: Whoever changed the picture, it wasn't working so I changed it back. --Leelan 19:34, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultimate Northstar 

message: His character history section needs to be condensed. We can't have sections for each story arc he's appeared in. --DrBat 21:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Truncate the Ultimate history of Northstar if you must, but I think it's useful to leave the description of Ultimate Northstar's powers and abilities there. The fact he can't fly (unlike the original) is significant to the plot from the start—In the very first few pages he appears in, he falls off a building and requires the rescue of a flier. Later during the attempted rescue of Polaris, Northstar uses his speed to run on water and worries about falling in (There are a few other situations where he would be better off flying). Someone who is familiar with the old Northstar, but not the Ultimate version may justifiably wonder why he doesn't just fly in each of those instances. If such a person comes a-looking for answers on Wiki, it'll be there for him/her.--Perceive 07:53, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultimate Northstar  

message: If he really is a fictional school teacher, may I suggest you actually add something in the article to say so? As it is, it looks exactly like a cataloguing error. Note that mentoring is not really the same as being a *school* teacher. It is quite possible to mentor someone outside a formal educational establishment. Rhialto 08:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The infobox says "Xavier Institute faculty". --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 08:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: School Teacher

message: Just a question about whether or not Northstar and Aurora's powers were altered permanently by the Children of the Vault.  During Serafina's narration when NS and Aurora attack the school, she states that the twins' power levels are much higher now compared to what they used to be.  I assume this means after the Children had abducted them and brainwashed them.   Is that sufficient enough to state that NS and A's mutant abilities have been permanently boosted, including the flash which NS regained after the HYDRA incident which he can now control with Aurora?Luminum 03:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Powers update

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message: Rather than indiscrimanently reverting all the changes I made, I'm asking Luminum to look at everything objectively. I did not include "EVERY thing he did in Alpha Flight", nor even close to that.  I may have included more than is necessary, but through careful reading and editing, it can be trimmed to an appropriate level. Consider this as well: he spent far more time in Alpha Flight than he did anywhere else.  However, look at how detailed the information is on his far-briefer time with the X-Men, and worse, the even breifer time that took place after that. Before my expansion, his time with Alpha Flight was little more than "he was with the team for a long time, and then he quit." All I'm asking is that if you're going to leave his "formative years" with Alpha Flight little more than a footnote, that the same standard should be applied on the rest of the article. At the very least, I would ask Luminum to make objective cuts rather than reverting the whole thing indiscrimanently again. Thank you. 67.162.108.96 (talk) 18:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Watch your tone, I didn't do it with malice.  I even kept your edits to his powers section.  So yes, I read through your edits and I didn't revert them indiscriminately.  From what I could tell, you basically listed every encounter he seemingly participated in citing every issue it happened in.  For example, your inclusions did not explain why those particular events were notable to his time in Alpha Flight or his development as a character in the series.  An example of which that was in the preexisting summary was his conflict with Aurora.  Since I figured you knew how these themes were related to your edits much better than I did, I undid your good faith edits and suggested that you sort through them and put the ones you felt were relevant back in.  I didn't ask that you keep them out, just redo it with my suggestion in mind.  So basically, I undid it and asked if you would trim it down the next time you entered the information the way you described above using your own scrutiny.  Another helpful thing is to recount those events as they would occur chronologically in the story, not int he order they occurred in publication.  It's probably good to note when something is a retcon or a flashback, but let's put it in order.  Ex: We'll explaint hat upon joining Alpha Flight, he first met Aurora, then write about his first appearance in comics fighting the X-Men over Wolverine.  Let me know if that sounds appropriate.  I can also help if you want, but I'm making the point that you know more about his detailed history and can probably decide what's notable than I.Luminum (talk) 19:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies for getting defensive; your reversion at first seemed more thoughtless than it was probably intended. I saw that wikilink fixes were reverted (why?) so I assumed it was a wholesale revert. Also I didn't see the suggestions in the edit comment, which you are noting here. My bad for overreacting. :) I agree that some of his more incidental appearances can be trimmed, and that the more important stuff should be expanded upon. 67.162.108.96 (talk) 19:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's cool.  Alright, I submitted an edit taking the information you listed.  Feel free to alter it as you see fit.Luminum (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow cool, good work! Probably better than I could have done with it. Suffice to say, I am far more satisfied with the article now than I was before. :) 67.162.108.96 (talk) 22:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alpha Flight 

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message: It was announced that Northstar would be marrying his bf Kyle, so I added in a quick line about it.
Apparently some people aren't too happy about this, so I used an article that was written from that stance to illustrate it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhenWakkaWentWild (talk • contribs) 15:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriage Update

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message: I'm interested in a source for this article, 'Bartilucci, Vinnie. "One Thin Dime an' Two Thick Pennies (Jim Shooter interview)". Thwack!', but I can't find it anywhere. Searching for the article title only gets me more wiki footnotes copied from here. 'Thwack!' apparently was a comics APA in the '90s, but I don't think it's possible to find it now (correct me if I'm wrong). Is it possible that this source is too obscure, and shouldn't be used to support the assertion that Jim Shooter had a policy against homosexual characters? (Or, put another way -- are we sure this article actually exists?) 69.25.143.32 (talk) 01:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't there be a section in the info box that would list his relatives? Northstar has a sister, a husband, adoptive parents and birth parents. 2603:9000:8D07:AAB0:B8D5:C3F3:56FD:FCCB (talk) 13:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relatives? 

message: He needs a new main image Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 07:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Main Image