Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 43

message: A gap I have noticed is in coverage of the New Music divas: Dawn Upshaw and Meredith Monk have articles well underway, but Bethany Beardslee, Joan LaBarbara, Cathy Berberian, Judith Bettina, Jane Manning and others who have shaped the music of our own age all have rather skimpy stubs (if that).Sparafucil 06:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion would be The great contraltos: Clara Butt, Louise Homer, Ernestine Schumann-Heink, Kathleen Ferrier, Marian Anderson, maybe some others. Taking existing (fairly long) articles on some major figures and bringing them up to project standard would give us benchmarks for future articles. (Some other ideas: Coloratura mezzos before Bartoli, French dramatic sopranos from Calvé to Crespin . . .) -- Kleinzach 07:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Singers of the month for December

message: During the past couple of days there appears to have been an edit war over the article title (Partenope or Partenope (Opera)) of this Handel opera. It has involved a whole lot of usernames - some of them apparently sock puppets - that I've never seen before. It's been going on at The opera corpus as well. Does anyone here know what is happening? It seems the correct title for the article should be Partenope as this is apparently unique, but I hesitate to get involved in something that doesn't make any sense to me. -- Kleinzach 23:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Partenope seems to be the policy-designated name, I've sorted it out and move-protected, as well as full-protecting the redirect. Poke me if there's any other problems. By the wya, on the banner thing - I have flu, and just haven't gotten around to it. Vanished user talk 23:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Partenope]] edit war

message: I have quite a few tenor pages on my watchlist, not surprisingly, and noticed that yesterday an anonymous editor, 69.234.132.228, was changing the cats on those articles - removing the general Category:Tenors leaving only the tenors by nationality category or, if none was there before, adding it and removing the general one. I checked their contributions and yesterday he/she did this to over 100 tenor articles. Is this a good thing? Best, Voceditenore 15:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Singer categories are a bit of a mess, but they are not going to be improved by large scale anonymous recategorization of one particular voice type. We looked into the categorization at the time of the last bot run (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Opera/Archive_27#Opera_singer_classification) but the huge scale of the problem was a disincentive to doing anything about it. -- Kleinzach 16:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, fortunately, the edior didn't invent new tenor nationality categories, just monkeyed around with those who could fit into the main three that are already there - Italian, English and American, although the re-classification of Freddy Mercury as an English tenor was probably stretching it. ;-) Best, Voceditenore 17:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sooner or later we will need a reform of the singer cats (for bot runs etc.) but an agreed plan will be required and a determination to actually carry it out - possibly as a group effort. I don't have my estimate of the number of singer articles to hand but it's well over a thousand with about 130 categories. Some areas - for example Americans and baritones - are much more heavily categorized than others. -- Kleinzach 02:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Singer categories