Talk:Flower Pot Men

message: The show was also accused of teaching childred drug related vocabulary such as "weed" and the flower"pot" men
70.172.198.81 if this comment is true please provide references for it, thank you. Roaming27 06:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed drug references 

message: In my humble opinion the new version is rubbish and the older version was not lacking because of a simple plot or absence of colour. The older version did not impede my grasp of the English Language. Miamomimi 17:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Version 

message: I absolutely loved this show when I was a child in England in the 1950's. Now a pensioner in Australia, I also love the joke that came from it so many years later....
Bill and Ben are in bed together, Bill says, "Hupple-up" and Ben says, "If you loved me, you'd swallow that."
How times change. ;-)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.240.240.130 (talk) 08:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flower Pot Men Joke 

message: I'm sure I once saw a clip of the old series with Bill and Ben greeting a tortoise called Shlogalog (Slowcoach)?
Can anyone confirm that they had a tortoise friend?
And Introducing... A Leg (talk) 15:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Uddo Shlogalog

message: I've removed the following text: However, the popular notion that they ever said "Flobbalob" or "Flobbadob" is an urban myth; if one listened carefully to their banter, one could hear words like "Loblob" ("lovely") and "Flobberpop" ("flowerpot"), either of which could have given rise to the urban myth.
Flobalob and Flobadob can be distinctly heard in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOv2cUv4gcU and http://www.toonhound.com/flowerpot.htm respectively.JohnHarris (talk) 16:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Flobalob

message: Listened to that clip, couldn't hear it distinctly or otherwise, sorry. Inserted brief reference to the point being controversial.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookseeker (talk • contribs) 10:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the two BFI sources we're already citing attests to it, though they spell it peculiarly. So I inserted it with a citation. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Flobalob

message: A passage in the article added in this edit was uncited and looked suspiciously well written to me, but it turned out the page that also has it—British Classic Comedy—is dated 12 years after 's edit. Sincerest form of flattery and all that. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Copying of this article, not copyvio

message: What is the point of this word? Is it perhaps 'new version' in computer-speak? Reboot merely means to start again. The new series is not the same show.
: Previous edit added by IP editor CapnZapp (talk) 09:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reboot? 

message: I've added some refs about the Brabban claim, and removed the following from the end of the article:
Hilda Brabban based the characters on the antics of her two little brothers, Bill and Ben Wright, at their West Riding home in Castleford. She had been invited to appear on ITV's talk show 'Barrymore' to talk about the show but was in fact prevented by an injunction obtained by solicitors acting for former BBC Children's head and official creator Freda Lingstrom, who held the intellectual propertyrights. Miss Lingstrom claimed that she had devised the TV programme. Hilda, for her part, was recovering from a stroke at the time. A retired schoolmistress, she died in 2002, aged 88.
A report about the legal action appeared in the Yorkshire Evening Post on Saturday, 13 May 2017.
The previous unsigned comment was written by User:Tacyarg. CapnZapp (talk) 11:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  If we had an article on Hilda Brabban's unrelated Bill and Ben characters, I would have added a hatnote to distinguish the two. As it is, I find it would be distinctly unhelpful if this article does not even mention Hlda Brabban, so I'll include a short explanatory paragraph distinguishing between the two unrelated properties. CapnZapp (talk) 11:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Tend to agree, although not sure if the section deserves the title "Controversy". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:10, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  At first I vacillated between "Controversy" and merely "Confusion", leaning away from the latter since I don't see many sections with that title. When I read up on the whole subject, including the legal pressure, I felt more confident "Controversy" is, perhaps not perfect, but at least not undeserved. I remain open to other ideas on how to present the material. CapnZapp (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

text: I amended our statement to exclude the names, since it would come off as very rich for us to propagate a claim the names were unknown to Lingstrom. We still can and do claim the characters are otherwise unrelated (which I guess a simple look in the BBCs archives would confirm). CapnZapp (talk) 10:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brabban claim 

message: Actually the more I think about it the more spurious the "it's a coincidence" claim becomes. (Specifically: ) The argument "there's no similarities" loses a lot of power when we consider we're comparing a radio show with a television show - of course there are no visual attributes to compare!
Obviously we should follow our sources, but I feel less and less confident this is an open-and-shut case. Maybe we should phrase things as conservatively as possibly, not giving off any more confidence than what our sources tell us? Since there doesn't appear to be a single source that actually have investigated the BBC archives, we should not be compelled to report a strong case either way. 
Thoughts? CapnZapp (talk) 10:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Tend to agree. Lingstrom is perhaps the strongest link between Listen with Mother and Watch with Mother. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brabban claim 2 

message: According to the article, the second series of Bill and Ben started to be broadcast before the first series had finished. That can't be right, surely?  Dr Greg  talk  15:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I've now worked out what was going on and have added an explanation at the start of Bill and Ben (TV series)#Episodes.  Dr Greg  talk  20:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology