Talk:Lust murder

message: "piquerism" seems to be a questionable term, removing for now. Whilst there are a number of Google hits, many from copies of this article, the word does not appear in the New Oxford Dictionary of English, nor in Google's online dictionary or any other authorritative source I can find so far. There is also a discussion on the validity of this term at http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug03/jn.html, which states, among other things:
:The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the Second District took issue with the purportedly expert testimony, stating that "It is now clear that the expert's qualifications were largely perjured, and that the syndrome, dubbed 'piquerism' is referenced nowhere but in a true-crime paperback." 
-- The Anome 10:44, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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message: "A lust murder begins with the obsessive compulsions of the offender." This is inaccurate -- wanting to commit lust murder has nothing to do with OCD (which the words "obsessive compulsions" link to). Eilicea 21:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is absolutely true - I removed the link and changed it to simply "obsessions." 69.118.25.126 18:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: While Bundy raped his victims often, he was not motivated by sex.  He sought to dominate and control his victims and the sexual aspect of his murders was merely another way of having power over them.  I have removed the Ted Bundy link from the bottom. 
Also, Ed Gein was not motivated by sex or lust but by the desire to return his mother to life.  Gein's link has been removed.
GSMR (talk) 20:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ted Bundy and Ed Gein 

message: :"Lust murder is synonymous with the paraphilic term erotophonophilia which is sexual arousal or gratification contingent on the death of a human being."
A paraphilia is a statement about a sexual attraction and not a sexual action as far as I know. Maybe the wording should be changed to "affiliated" or something similar.
Also, can terms be paraphilic?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.173.157.109 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, why the devil is anyone suggesting that those are synonyms? We still do not have thought crimes in most nations for a *reason*. As far as I'm concerned it's outrageous to even suggest that such a thing is synonymous and it does not seem to be in the spirit of wikipedia at all. Mentioning that there might be a relation (if you can provide a source to such a relation) however would be acceptable in my book. However if anyone find information that's usable as a source about it being possible to have this kink without genuinely acting on it (just doing snuff play for instance instead of real murder) then that should probably also be mentioned. With regards from someone with other kinks that have been judged as perverse by certain close minded individuals in the past Luredreier (talk) 20:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synonymity? 

message: I'd propose removing the link to Xenia, as all others in the list are real, historical persons. Perhaps a link to the Xenia page under "pop culture" heading?" Not making any changes at this time, as I'm new to editing. Need to get more smarts before I start editing.
72.227.74.219 (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xenia Onatopp 

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message: The list is entirely unsourced, meaning that each entry is simply some editor's opinion that the person is a "lust murderer". The list has to go unless someone can add sources. I tagged the section as unreferenced and will give it a couple of weeks before removing the section. Sundayclose (talk) 03:00, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of lust murderes 

message: Is "Lust Murder" even the best translation for the term Lustmord (originally from von Krafft-Ebbing)? "Lust" in German means desire but in a generalized sense, *not* specifically in reference to sexual or romantic desire. To me it should be more like "Eroticized Murder" (a little long and cumbersome I know), or even something that refers to sexual gratification from the fantasy or act of committing murder (but the act being devoid of any actual sexualized content; this is perhaps the second definition mentioned, maybe they need to be differentiated?).Historian932 (talk) 12:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:Common name, we go by the common name for the topic, as established by the preponderance of WP:Reliable sources. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New/different name? 

message: At the very end of the preview of the link to this page (like the one on the page for autassassinophilia) it says "YO Why bro". I don't know how to fix it since it doesn't say that anywhere else on this page? Slurpcat (talk) 23:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: after a purge.  -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 23:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalized preview? 

message: In terms of what the elements of the word actually mean, erotophonophilia ought to mean "sexual arousal at someone saying sexy things". Why it should have the meaning of someone being sexually aroused by the imminent prospect of someone else's death, is beyond my powers of comprehension. What a stupid word! If anything, the word ought logically to be thanatophilia: sexual arousal by death.
Nuttyskin (talk) 03:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erotophonophilia