Talk:Tommy Franks

message: I don't know where to cram this in to the page in a good way, but I'd like to add the info Tommy Franks predicted the end of free society if we're hit with another major terrorist attack. It's a pretty bold statement by a highly regarded public figure so I think it should be added in. Link: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml Full interview: http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/article.php?sid=3470 Mastgrr 22:59, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack 

message: Barrage of redlinks early on, lack of wikifying later, and Strange Capitalization throughout. Sections could use a reworking, especially the section that contains a single quote. Isopropyl 18:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: If you look at Marine Corps Generals, they seem to have a uniform formatting for personal information. This article should have that too. -12.149.39.84 12:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format 

message: This link is at the bottom of the page, but there is nothing in his biography that mentions any link to Midland.
If you READ his biography, you will see that he lived in Midland from mid-childhood through high school, graduating from High school there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.145.124 (talk) 19:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would help if the article actually referenced his biography.  This article is severely lacking in sources.  Root4(one) 04:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  People from Midland, Texas 

message: Moved this following information to the talk page. It appears to violate NPOV since
the dollar amount of reimbursement directly contradicts the amounts in the source and
is written with a critical POV.
"Franks was paid $100,000 to endorse the Coalition to Support American Heroes, a veterans charity that Congressional investigators found  to be ripping off donors and wounded veterans by using only about 25% of the money raised for veterans services.  Harry Chapin, president of the Coalition to Support American Heroes, testified to Congress that the charity paid him and his wife salaries of $561,971 each, paid his $17,000 membership in a California golf club, reimbursed them for more than $340,000 in expenses for meals, hotels and entertainment, and purchased them $444,600 condominium in northern Virginia.  Michael Hayes, chief of staff for Franks & Associates LLC, testified that "[General Franks] ended his support for the CSAH in late 2005 when he learned that the percent of money raised that was going to the troops was less than 85 percent, a figure which was then and remains today his critertia for supporting charitable organizations.""
Bayspatriot (talk) 22:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rewritten this section with additional references, neutral tone of voice and insured the amounts matched the sources. Yes, it is a criticism. It is a common mistake to think that Wikipedia's core policy of WP:NPOV means "no" point-of-view. Instead:As the name suggests, the neutral point of view is a point of view, not the absence or elimination of viewpoints. The neutral point of view policy is often misunderstood. The acronym NPOV does not mean "no points of view". The elimination of article content cannot be justified under this policy by simply labeling it "POV". If you can find a reliable source that states, say, it was a good thing that Franks collected the money, then it should be added. Thoughts? ∴ Therefore | talk 01:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   charity allegations  

message: There should be some mention of Franks' decisions in Afghanistan, especially during Tora Bora, when he chose to not send in US ground forces. This could be done under the military career section or even under the criticisms section, since many view his decision not to send troops in as resulting in Bin Laden's escape.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.161.133.154 (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tora Bora?

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message: In The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today Ricks writes that Franks bungled both Afghanistan and Iraq: "..This is not all the fault of Franks. He is best understood as exactly whar the post-Vietnam Army was trying to create, the natural and desired outcome of Gen DePuy's insistence on a tactical focus and the parallel repudiation of Gen. Cushman's call for a broader-minded, deeper-thinknig sort of superior officer. As Cushman later observed of Franks, "His development approached the ideal career pattern of senior officer development at that time." .."In [bungling] two wars in just three years, ..in both he would illustrate the short-comings of the force built by DePuy. The post-Vietnam tendency of the American military to decouple political questions from military operations, and willingness of their civilian superiors to go along with that approach, were damaging in the 1991 war, which was a conventional conflict. But it became lethal to the American cause [in Afghanistan and Iraq]" (p398) Buckshot06 (talk) 23:40, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment by Thomas E. Ricks