Talk:Damaging quotation

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: soulpatch writes "The White House often rewrites official transcripts to clean up Bush's mangling of the language.  The press often does this as well".
We foreigners like our handy "Cut out and keep guide to the presidents..."
: Kennedy (Dead)
: Johnson (Who?)
: Nixon (Corrupt)
: Ford (Stupid)
: Carter (Incompetent)
: Reagan (Asleep)
: Bush the Elected (Incompetent)
: Clinton (Fornicating)
: Bush the Appointed (Stupid)
"A Bushism is a public verbal gaffe by United States President George W. Bush." -- Misleading; the term was first used in reference to his father George Herbert Walker Bush. The earliest Google hit I find is from 5 Aug 1992. 
The term was used as the title of a 1992 book by the editors of New Republic magazine. 
Amazon.com books on Bushisms by *both* Bushes 
=== Should Wikipedia contain a list of Bushisms? ===
All quotations here are misquotations, since that seemed appropriate, given the topic... :-)
*In favour of inclusion:
** soulpatch -- "Bush's gaffes are a matter of political discourse. Suppresing them would be whitewashing".
*Against inclusion:
** User:GWO -- "its too dictionary"... "too many examples"...
** FvdP -- "I would not feel bad if these articles were to disappear from mainstream Wikipedia".
** "TMC" -- "Having a list of 'Bushisms' is like having a list of 'Subhuman Races'."
** Larry Sanger -- lose the list of actual Bushisms and Goreisms"
*Other:
** Ed Poor -- "I love the article", but "I'd like to rewrite it not as a list, but as an explanation of why people like to compile such lists" 
There was a brief digression on whether Sanger had insulted soulpatch, or made an ad hominem attack on him (and others), and whether Sanger should continue to "chastize people for their lapses into idiocy" (his words), practice "shame culture" (his words), "resort to personal insults" (soulpatch's words), and be a "butthead" (Stormwriter's words). Sanger decided that he should, because other people "have no excuse", and anyway "it takes way too much effort to restrain myself".
: (personal comment) Score one for WikiLove then. Martin 01:15 15 Jun 2003 (UTC)
::As one who's been adding Dubya quotes, but trying to pick those with some significance deeper than simple illinguacy (?), I fear that a "standing order" to exclude so-called "Bushisms" will be expanded into an excuse by Bushheads to delete everything they don't like. Kwantus 22:49, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silk purses 

message: All quotations here are misquotations, since that seemed appropriate, given the topic... :-)
*In favour of inclusion:
** soulpatch -- "Bush's gaffes are a matter of political discourse. Suppresing them would be whitewashing".
*Against inclusion:
** User:GWO -- "its too dictionary"... "too many examples"...
** FvdP -- "I would not feel bad if these articles were to disappear from mainstream Wikipedia".
** "TMC" -- "Having a list of 'Bushisms' is like having a list of 'Subhuman Races'."
** Larry Sanger -- lose the list of actual Bushisms and Goreisms"
*Other:
** Ed Poor -- "I love the article", but "I'd like to rewrite it not as a list, but as an explanation of why people like to compile such lists" 
There was a brief digression on whether Sanger had insulted soulpatch, or made an ad hominem attack on him (and others), and whether Sanger should continue to "chastize people for their lapses into idiocy" (his words), practice "shame culture" (his words), "resort to personal insults" (soulpatch's words), and be a "butthead" (Stormwriter's words). Sanger decided that he should, because other people "have no excuse", and anyway "it takes way too much effort to restrain myself".
: (personal comment) Score one for WikiLove then. Martin 01:15 15 Jun 2003 (UTC)
::As one who's been adding Dubya quotes, but trying to pick those with some significance deeper than simple illinguacy (?), I fear that a "standing order" to exclude so-called "Bushisms" will be expanded into an excuse by Bushheads to delete everything they don't like. Kwantus 22:49, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Wikipedia contain a list of Bushisms? 

message: When I added that tag, this article was in only one category: Political terminology. That category has the note "Pages in this category should be moved to subcategories where applicable."
--Rob Kelk 02:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "This article may be in the wrong category or belong in further categories."