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message: Hello, this is the subject the article, Anthony Pateras, here.
I have a conflict of interest therefore would like to request some edits.
There seems to be some activity on this article recently and I would like to clarify three things.
1) My main issue is with the way the discography is presented. The credits of the albums in this table are inconsistent, often wrong and many are not listed. Whatsmore at the moment it's spread over two formats for some reason.
I would prefer the lower format if possible, which is list form, in reverse chronological order, separated by collaborator/project. Not the table.
If someone could please replace the table with the following it would be much appreciated:
*Solo albums
**Pseudacusis (Bocian, 2021)
**Collected Works Vol. II [2005-2018] (Immediata, 2019)
**Blood Stretched Out (Immediata, 2017)
**Collected Works Vol. I [2002-2012] (Immediata, 2012)
**Errors Of The Human Body OST (Editions Mego, 2012)
**Chromatophore (Tzadik, 2008)
**Chasms (sirr.ecords, 2007)
**Mutant Theatre (Tzadik, 2004)
**Malfunction Studies (self-released, 2002)
*with Robin Fox
**End of Daze (Editions Mego, 2009)
**Flux Compendium (Editions Mego, 2006)
**Coagulate (Synaesthesia, 2003)
*with Pateras/Baxter/Brown
**Bern · Melbourne · Milan (Immediata, 2019)
**Live At L'Usine (Cave12, 2008)
**Interference (emp.pl/records, 2008)
**Gauticle (Synaesthesia, 2006)
**Ataxia (Synaesthesia, 2004)
*with Erkki Veltheim
**Duos For Other Instruments (All That Dust, 2020)
**The Slow Creep Of Convenience (Immediata, 2017)
**Entertainment = Control (Immediata, 2015)
*with Thymolphthalein
**Mad Among The Mad (Immediata, 2015)
**Ni Maître, Ni Marteau (Editions Mego, 2011)
*with North of North
**North of North (Off Compass, 2018)
**The Moment In and Of Itself (Immediata, 2016)
*with Valerio Tricoli (Astral Colonels)
**The Difference Of Similarity/The Similarity Of Difference (Second Sleep, 2019)
**Good Times In The End Times (Immediata, 2016)
*with Rohan Drape
**The traces of a mistake, the most simple one possible the reactions of even younger children (Superpang, 2021)
**Ellesmere (Immediata, 2018)
*with tētēma
**Necroscape (Ipecac, 2020)
**Geocidal (Ipecac, 2014)
*Miscellaneous
**with eRikm: Albedo (CCAM Editions, 2019)
**with Beta Erko: I'm OK. You're OK. (Quecksilber, 2005)
*Guest appearances
** Sunn O))): Life Metal (Southern Lord, 2019)
**Fennesz: Black Sea (Touch, 2008)
**Oren Ambarchi: In The Pendulum's Embrace (Southern Lord, 2008)
2) The genres are wrong. I do not write neoclassical music, I write contemporary classical music. There's a big difference. Also electronic music tends to suggest more popular forms. I would prefer the word "electro-acoustic" if editors are open to that.
3) This sentence misspells my name, and reads awkwardly:
In 2007 he completed his PhD at Monash University with Thomas Reiner, Patras' thesis was, "Exploratory combinations of composition, improvisation and electronics based on relationships between form and timbre."[11]
Should be:
In 2007 he completed his PhD at Monash University with Thomas Reiner. Pateras' thesis was, "Exploratory combinations of composition, improvisation and electronics based on relationships between form and timbre."[11]
I'm sorry that in the past that I edited this article myself using my own name "Anthonypateras". That was meant to be a transparent gesture, and to clarify what is written about me on the internet. I'm uncomfortable with the article being here as it is, as indicated by my later request to delete, but if it needs to stay, please include these changes if you are able, and have the time.
Yours sincerely,
Anthony Pateras
=== Replies ===
# Wikipedia provides a style guide for the formatting of discographies. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style
## Specifically it states, "A table-based list of official releases, in chronological order from earliest to latest." The latter entries were left untabulated, when I moved on to other articles and/or real-life.
## Where content is inaccurate or incomplete reliable sources maybe required for the changes you request.
# Genre changes also require reliable sources. In this case, I believe the article already has such sources to support "contemporary classical music" and "electro-acoustic". I will do this soon.
# Sorry, mea culpa. I'll change this, too.
#On talk pages, like this one, please sign at the end of your commentary with ~~~~ (four tildes). This makes it easier for editors to determine, who wrote what.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:58, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead-in section under the subHeading APRA Music Awards is to explain to the general reader what those awards are. My ignorance of the other displayed awards prevents me from making similar lead-ins there. As I understand it, general readers of this article would expect to see awards an artist is nominated for and by whom. Some will read the Lead and choose to go straight to the Awards and nominations section, without reading the main text.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

text: thanks for those. I'm busy elsewhere at the moment but hope to get to these within the week.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

text: I think I've added all of these releases. I did not use all of the references. For some I've added archive-urls. I hope the article is now more up-to-date for its discography.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 17:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

text: Thank you very much! I read the article one last time, I noticed the formats for a lot of the releases were missing and some other very minor typos below. I would fix these myself if I was allowed, sorry for the extra work.
FORMATS:
-Pseudacusis - CD
-Live at L’Usine - CD
-Bern Melbourne Milan - 2CD
-Ni Maitre Ni Marteau - LP
-Mad Among the Mad - CD
-Geocdial - LP/CD/DL
-Necroscape - LP/CD/DL
-The Slow Creep On Convenience - CD
-Duos for Other instruments - CD
-The Moment In Of Itself - CD
-North of North - CD
-The Traces….DL
-In the Pendulum’s Embrace - LP
-Black Sea - CD
-Life Metal - LP/CD/DL
TYPOS:
- Early years: Line 3: Punter = Punters.
- 2009 to 2015: Re: Ontetradecagon - I performed the piece in studio, as per the source you've quoted, not AAO.
- 2016 to current: Pseudcausis is a concert work, later released as an album (i.e. wasn't commissioned as an album)
- Pivixki: 1st line - “drumer” = “drummer”
- Discog, solo: Delirioso is not an album, it’s a track on the release before it (Collected Works 2002-2012).
Sharing the world (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  October 2021: Request edit 

message: # Wikipedia provides a style guide for the formatting of discographies. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style
## Specifically it states, "A table-based list of official releases, in chronological order from earliest to latest." The latter entries were left untabulated, when I moved on to other articles and/or real-life.
## Where content is inaccurate or incomplete reliable sources maybe required for the changes you request.
# Genre changes also require reliable sources. In this case, I believe the article already has such sources to support "contemporary classical music" and "electro-acoustic". I will do this soon.
# Sorry, mea culpa. I'll change this, too.
#On talk pages, like this one, please sign at the end of your commentary with ~~~~ (four tildes). This makes it easier for editors to determine, who wrote what.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:58, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead-in section under the subHeading APRA Music Awards is to explain to the general reader what those awards are. My ignorance of the other displayed awards prevents me from making similar lead-ins there. As I understand it, general readers of this article would expect to see awards an artist is nominated for and by whom. Some will read the Lead and choose to go straight to the Awards and nominations section, without reading the main text.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replies 

message: Here is the requested discography information and sources. I hope they are sufficient for you. Thank you.
*with Valerio Tricoli (Astral Colonels) 
**Good Times In The End Times (Immediata, 2016)https://www.cyclicdefrost.com/2016/07/astral-colonels-good-times-in-the-end-times-immediata/https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7088829?lookfor=good%20times%20in%20the%20end%20times&offset=1&max=381770
**The Difference Of Similarity/The Similarity Of Difference (Second Sleep, 2019)https://www.soundohm.com/product/the-difference-of-similarhttps://boomkat.com/products/the-difference-of-similarity-the-similarity-of-difference
*with Rohan Drape
**Ellesmere (Immediata, 2017)https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7581574?lookfor=ellesmere&offset=1&max=224
** The traces of a mistake, the most simple one possible the reactions of even younger children (Superpang, 2021)https://boomkat.com/products/the-traces-of-a-mistake-the-most-simple-one-possible-the-reactions-of-even-younger-children
*Miscellaneous Collaborations
**with Beta Erko: I'm OK. You're OK. (Quecksilber, 2005)https://www.allmusic.com/album/im-ok-youre-ok-mw0000211736?1634511218383
**with Extended Pianos (Robin Fox, Erik Griswold): Switch On A Dime (Immediata, 2016)https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7088825https://www.soundohm.com/product/switch-on-a-dime
**with Anthony Burr: The Long Exhale (Immediata, 2016)https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7246017https://www.cyclicdefrost.com/2017/12/anthony-burr-anthony-pateras-the-long-exhale-immediata/https://www.soundohm.com/product/the-long-exhalehttps://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/152687104799/anthony-burranthony-pateras-the-long-exhale
**with Chris Abrahams (176): Music In Eight Octaves (Immediata, 2017)https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7424894?lookfor=176%20music%20in%20eight%20octaves&offset=1&max=303421https://www.cyclicdefrost.com/2017/12/176-music-in-eight-octaves-immediata/http://www.squidco.com/cgi-bin/news/newsView.cgi?newsID=2014
**with Stephen O’Malley: Rêve Noir (Immediata, 2017)https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/7581587?lookfor=pateras%20o%27malley%20reve%20noir&offset=1&max=3164
**with eRikm: Albédo (CCAM Editions, 2019)https://toneshift.wordpress.com/2019/06/22/albedo-by-erikm-and-anthony-pateras/https://www.soundohm.com/product/albedo-lp-cdhttps://skug.at/erikm-anthony-pateras-albedo/
**with Jérôme Noetinger: A Sunset For Walter (Penultimate Press, 2019)https://www.allmusic.com/album/a-sunset-for-walter-mw0003313528http://www.cookylamoo.com/boringlikeadrill/2019/09/jerome-noetinger-and-anthony-pateras-a-sunset-for-walter.htmlhttps://boomkat.com/products/a-sunset-for-walter
Sharing the world (talk) 23:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for those. I'm busy elsewhere at the moment but hope to get to these within the week.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

text: I think I've added all of these releases. I did not use all of the references. For some I've added archive-urls. I hope the article is now more up-to-date for its discography.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 17:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

text: Thank you very much! I read the article one last time, I noticed the formats for a lot of the releases were missing and some other very minor typos below. I would fix these myself if I was allowed, sorry for the extra work.
FORMATS:
-Pseudacusis - CD
-Live at L’Usine - CD
-Bern Melbourne Milan - 2CD
-Ni Maitre Ni Marteau - LP
-Mad Among the Mad - CD
-Geocdial - LP/CD/DL
-Necroscape - LP/CD/DL
-The Slow Creep On Convenience - CD
-Duos for Other instruments - CD
-The Moment In Of Itself - CD
-North of North - CD
-The Traces….DL
-In the Pendulum’s Embrace - LP
-Black Sea - CD
-Life Metal - LP/CD/DL
TYPOS:
- Early years: Line 3: Punter = Punters.
- 2009 to 2015: Re: Ontetradecagon - I performed the piece in studio, as per the source you've quoted, not AAO.
- 2016 to current: Pseudcausis is a concert work, later released as an album (i.e. wasn't commissioned as an album)
- Pivixki: 1st line - “drumer” = “drummer”
- Discog, solo: Delirioso is not an album, it’s a track on the release before it (Collected Works 2002-2012).
Sharing the world (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography additions 

message: : I think I've added all of these releases. I did not use all of the references. For some I've added archive-urls. I hope the article is now more up-to-date for its discography.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 17:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much! I read the article one last time, I noticed the formats for a lot of the releases were missing and some other very minor typos below. I would fix these myself if I was allowed, sorry for the extra work.
FORMATS:
-Pseudacusis - CD
-Live at L’Usine - CD
-Bern Melbourne Milan - 2CD
-Ni Maitre Ni Marteau - LP
-Mad Among the Mad - CD
-Geocdial - LP/CD/DL
-Necroscape - LP/CD/DL
-The Slow Creep On Convenience - CD
-Duos for Other instruments - CD
-The Moment In Of Itself - CD
-North of North - CD
-The Traces….DL
-In the Pendulum’s Embrace - LP
-Black Sea - CD
-Life Metal - LP/CD/DL
TYPOS:
- Early years: Line 3: Punter = Punters.
- 2009 to 2015: Re: Ontetradecagon - I performed the piece in studio, as per the source you've quoted, not AAO.
- 2016 to current: Pseudcausis is a concert work, later released as an album (i.e. wasn't commissioned as an album)
- Pivixki: 1st line - “drumer” = “drummer”
- Discog, solo: Delirioso is not an album, it’s a track on the release before it (Collected Works 2002-2012).
Sharing the world (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of output