Talk:Pantsir missile system

message: signed and everything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mUIPPH740  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.215.176 (talk) 14:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: brazil already bought

message: Does anyboby have the reference for the Pantsir-S1 having the NATO reporting name SA-22 Greyhound? I think it is a US DoD reporting name (not NATO).
Germ 04:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NATO reporting name  

message: Unfortunately very poor. Opening sentence mangled. Sometimes forgets the definite article ('the'). Verbs are often wrong ('further test will taken place')
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr FFB (talk • contribs) 20:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality of English 

message: Since this is a upgrade of the 9K22 Tunguska, should we merge them as it has been done with S-300, Tor missile system and Buk missile system? --ŦħęGɛя㎥ 00:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: The syrian air defence has just shot down a turkish Phantom fighter jet, which flew recce mission 1km from their shore (border violation). The syrians have uploaded to Youtube the video of the incident, which is of poor mobile phone quality, but the sound of short-burst autocannon fire is clearly audible here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdIEmyvyJYo
This nullifies press reports that claim syria used the recently delivered BUK missiles to down the Phantom jet from a greater distance. The turkish pilots ran into a disguised Pantsir 6x6 gun battery. Another insight is that apparently the russian advisors managed to break the zionist jamming tech, which made syrian air defence neutered during that previous reactor bombing incident. Turkish warplanes carry zionist-made electronic warfare pods. Maybe the jews purposefully disabled those turkish jamming systems, after Ankara broke up with Tel-Aviv over the palestinian apartheid situation? 87.97.53.161 (talk) 15:23, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news right now. 

message: "An undisclosed number of Syrian Armed Forces Pantsir-S1 weapon systems were deployed to guard the airspace over the Iranian-North Korean-built nuclear reactor in the northern Syrian town of Al-Kibar on 6 September 2007[8]; however, they were unable to fend off the Israeli airstrike due to electronic attack and jamming from attacking aircrafts"
At that time they were not even there ! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EErUMjjA7c&feature=channel
Interview with the head of the KB. Pls correct the wrong information.
Minute 1.30 -  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.75.250.185 (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 Israel attack

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message: + and a requirement that was put forward was to work in the movement = without any restrictions
that has already been done when the first batch went for export
all built systems can run without stopping
but I can not find good sources of text (only words on television, and not in English)
but the words he says in the movie filmed developer about the developer (many years ago)89.105.158.243 (talk) 16:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This system was originally developed in 1991 ! 

message: I am not experienced enough to know if this warrants a place in the wiki page. So I'm leaving it here for others to decide. This article shows photos purporting to be of UAE origin Pantir systems in the hands of Libyan militants. Jeff1948a (talk) 10:58, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2019 UAE supplying Pantsir to Libyan militants 

message: However, the original of the report recognizes that there is no convincing evidence. And then it was established that this photo was made on the territory of Russia.http://armamentresearch.com/Uploads/Research%20Report%20No.%203%20-%20Raising%20Red%20Flags.pdf The original document does not indicate the reliability of its assumptions.
Some media have published these photos with other statementshttps://topwar.ru/69379-velikobritaniya-predstavila-dokazatelstva-primeneniya-rossiyskih-zrk-pancir-s1-na-vostoke-ukrainy.html. OSCE and the General Staff of Ukraine admitted that it has no evidence of the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine.http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2313715http://bloknot.ru/v-mire/obse-uveryayut-vojsk-rossii-na-ukraine-net-111426.html https://vz.ru/news/2015/2/18/730357.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.104.200.80 (talk) 08:54, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: However, the original of the report recognizes that there is no convincing evidence.

message: Has any one heard of the Pantsir-1 being referred to as the "Carapace C/C1."  For example, here are two articles that make these references:
http://survincity.com/2013/06/division-complex-carapace-c-tipped-night-airstrike/
http://survincity.com/2013/08/carapace-c1-will-cover-the-metropolitan-sky/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagaer meister (talk • contribs) 17:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are unreliable sources. In English sources, it is always referred to as the Pantsir-S1. Welcome to Wikipedia and be sure to sign your posts by clicking on the Sign your posts on talk pages: at the bottom of your edit box. Khazar (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Carapace C1" Codename

message: https://www.rt.com/news/342072-fowler-airborne-air-defense/ 104.34.250.89 (talk) 16:29, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  designed for para-drop 

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message: The missile section says that the warhead weighs 20 kg and contains 5.5 kg explosive and 2000 14.5 g fragments and rods. The fragments and rods would then weigh 29 kg i.e. more than the warhead! Perhaps the rods weigh 14.5 g and the fragments less?150.227.15.253 (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency in warhead data 

message: The radar of the Pantsir wasn't spinning, it was not operation during the attack. Useful to add.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.189.65.135 (talk) 18:21, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non operation during the Israel attack 

message: Someone keeps claiming that the footage of the Pantsir S1 getting destroyed by a Turkish drone strike is fake. Can he please show a single reliable source that the footage is fake? Both the footage and the statement from the Turkish MoD confirms that it was destroyed Ahhlanker (talk) 13:16, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pantsir destroyed by Turkish drone 

message: Turkey claims to be 8 SA-22 (officially)https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3246845. Three videos were published: 1) this is not SA-22 (officially) and this video has already been published previously, this is Roland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_(missile)https://rg.ru/2020/03/02/unichtozhenie-kompleksa-pancir-s1-v-livii-postavili-pod-somnenie.htmlhttps://vz.ru/news/2020/3/2/1026754.html, 2) this is Photoshop, immediately after the explosion, SA-22 immediately disappears completely (all 20 tons)SA-22 immediately disappears completely (all 20 tons)https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/03/04/tureckaya-propaganda-tirazhiruet-somnitelnye-zapisi-a-byl-li-pancir, The original video is posted on Twitter turkey&clashreport)https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1234952336319143938 3) this is a regular launch of missiles ((officially)) and immediately after the shot the frame is cut off (so as not to repeat the error in paragraph 2)https://iz.ru/985780/2020-03-11/istochnik-prokommentiroval-kadry-unichtozheniia-turtciei-pantciria-v-sirii. As a result, after 7 days, 3 of the declared victories were confirmed, but these 3 were refuted. 
according to the Turks, we destroyed 150 tanks, half of Syria’s air defense, every tenth soldier, hundreds of units of military equipment and hundreds of other vehicles. now we can give half the idlib to Syria without suffering any losses. This is a very very stupid joke, Mr. Turks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.126.129.55 (talk) 07:22, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: What you're writing in the article is incomprehensible and improperly sourced (you can not use bare "ref" tags without any filling, e.g. the publisher information, language of the article etc.), so I've reverted your edits. -- Nicholas Velasquez (talk) 7:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

text: It's impossible to understand what you're talking about. Just keep in mind your edits are going to get reverted, unless you properly fill the "ref" tags and start writing in proper English. -- Nicholas Velasquez (talk) 14:15, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

text: Well, your language speaks volumes about your intentions on Wikipedia. However, here are the guidelines regarding the reference tag filling - just in case you decide to reconsider your behavior. Also, note that a raw google translate text won't be accepted, even if you fill the ref properly. -- Nicholas Velasquez (talk) 13:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is dificult for me to understand what you say. But the article as now, is 100% balanced and neutral. Turkish fanboys and sockpuppets can make all the claims they want. But Videos and Reliable New Outlets show something completely different. Dont worry about that.Mr.User200 (talk) 01:41, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey claims to be 8 SA-22 but only 3 shown 

message: The sources provided for the June 9 downing of a Turkish drone seems to be contested. The main source provided for this information is a Twitter post, which is contradicted by another post that was made at the same time. The other post claims that the provided video actually shows Emirati personnel training LNA soldiers. The video itself is actually dated 24 April 2020. There are no reports of a downed Turkish drone from that period. Because of this, the information should be removed until it can be properly verified.--Estonian1885 (talk) 18:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested information about downed Turkish drone 

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message: One has been spotted in a wagner convoy but need to wait for an RS to cover it.©Geni (talk) 08:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wagner usage in russia

message: Numerous articles have documented that Pantsir air defense systems in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh were knocked out by drones. The Russian media spread fake news and try to cover up actual losses under the guise of damage and repairs in order not to lose orders from potential buyer countries. 2003:EC:701:1700:549F:404C:B106:4A0F (talk) 20:07, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operational history