Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Myanmar/Archive 1

message: I've compiled a list of all the Myanmar-related articles that I've found so far. Perhaps this would be a good starting point to find articles to improve, expand, and cite. --Hintha 02:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if there is a way to automatically add articles to your list, just by putting our project tag on talk pages? Chris 06:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be nice, but I don't know how to program bots. --Hintha 00:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Myanmar-related topics]]

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thread_title:  Project directory 

message: If the members of the project would wish, I could add assessment parameters to the project banner, so that the members of the project could better be able to determine which articles are in most need of the attention of the members of the project. Just let me know on my userpage if you wish to do so. Badbilltucker 23:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessments 

message: Hintha, If you do not have political agendas, why did you remove Myanmar Category from Military of Myanmar article? It is the article about the military of myanmar, and it certainly belongs under Myanmar category. Why are you so desperate to hide this article from public? How can we see that you are being political neutral, when you are actually going out of your way desperately trying to hide articles that doesnt conform with your political orientation and affiliation? You have again proven that this group is politically bias and using Wikipedia to serve as PR tool for opposition groups in exile. Okkar 14:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You shouldn't aggressively accuse others of being biased without prior knowledge. If you actually took a look at :Category:Myanmar, you would find that there are very few articles that exist in that category, because more specific categories have been created, which in the case of "Military of Myanmar" is the category of that same name. For this same reason, articles like "Economy of Myanmar", "Culture of Myanmar", "History of Myanmar", "Politics of Myanmar", "Communication in Myanmar", "Education in Myanmar", just to name a few, appear only in those specific categories and not the general "Myanmar" category, which is mainly for uncategorised articles and the "Myanmar" article. Next time, before you accuse me of trying to "paddle articles that [have been] sanctioned and blessed by NCGUB [National Coalition Government of the Union of Burma]", you should see how Wikipedia categories work and check out other country cats (e.g. :Category:Singapore, :Category:Australia) just to name a few). And don't warn me for vandalism without providing a more reasonable explanation. (This is a response to the following 3 posts: 1, 2, 3) --Hintha 23:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well i would not have to come to such conclusion if you weren't persistance about "appeasing" opposition groups.  You said it yourself in your posting that you have been trying to "appease" them in order to stop them vandalising.  If you have been neutral and unbias from the beginning, I would not be forced to accuse you of having political agenda.  Bal thu ma pyu, mi mi mhu par. Okkar 17:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Acquaint yourself with Wikipedia:Civility, and other Wikipedia policies. Thank you. --Hintha 22:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  And please do acquaint yourself with Wikipedia Policy also.  It states clearly regarding the biasness. Thank you. Okkar 09:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Wikipedia the mouth piece of NCGUB? ([[Military of Myanmar]]) 

message: *Scouting in Burma would really benefit from Burmese text, can someone put this text  into the organization name on the article? Thanks Chris 08:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Completed Burmese language requests

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: : Can we stop adding politically motivated informations into purely military article? It is so hard to find any real information about Myanmar military without having to trawl through a whole load of political facts.  While I whole heartedly understand that military and poltics in Myanmar are intertwined, but there should be a place for simple information purely to serve as a platform for research purposes.Okkar 23:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose, obviously. Stating facts as they stand are not POV, and the facts are that the Tatmadaw holds more sway in Burma than does the French military in France or the Australian military in Australia, and for that reason it stands out; also oppose on general principle, as has been gone into in great length today. Chris 00:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Those facts have nothing to do whatsoever with the Military Article.  I have written the article as per scope of WikiProjects Military History and no where in the scope that said we must include the generals business dealings and personal wealth.  Military of Myanmar < > Generals of Myanmar.  If you want to add your yellow press style gossips, I suggest you start a new article under category befitting to such contents.  Do we see such facts in British Armed Forces, Indian Armed Forces, Royal Thai Army pages? no, we dont, because it is not related to the article's principle, so why should we accept such blatent vandalisim in the disguise of facts? is that because we are burmese and we arent allow to have a decent article about our country's military?  Your should not think wikipedia is your own personal political playground.  Also the article is part of WikiProjects Military History, there is no such thing in the scope to include some villia of a general, please do you home work before you vandalise the articles.  You are doing all this out of your political motivation, again please read WP:NPOV!Okkar 02:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: There is no personal attack here. comment on content, and content should be facts and within the scope of article, again neutrality is important here. we must not forget what wikipedia stands for. Thank you. Okkar 13:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can we split up Army, Navy and Airforce to their own seperate pages out of Military of Myanmar? just as other countries have done? Okkar 15:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Military of Myanmar

message: Okkar has not been around for a couple of weeks, and as he was the only antagonist insisting we were out of NPOV with no support from other angles, I propose we give it a little while longer, not having heard from any of the Wiki hierarchy, and then remove the POV tags. Your thoughts?
:Sounds like a plan.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 00:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: proposal to remove tags

message: This project was moved a bit ago by  as "uncontroversial." I'm not so sure about that at all. It was WikiProject Burma (Myanmar). Two days ago (after the name change) it was moved to WikiProject Myanmar (Burma). Nothing controversial about that since Myanmar has been deemed by consensus to be the more common name. Today it was moved to simply WikiProject Myanmar... and since it is still called Burma by many sources and govt's I think it should be moved back to WikiProject Myanmar (Burma). At least it should get its day in court here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Who did agree to move to WikiProject Myanmar (Burma)? If moving to WikiProject Myanmar is controversial, moving to WikiProject Myanmar (Burma) too. It should be moved back to WikiProject Burma (Myanmar). Sawol (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move? 

message: As an alternate I would suggest moving the wikiproject from WikiProject Burma (Myanmar) → WikiProject Myanmar (Burma). That would be in keeping with our previous title that we used when Burma was more common than Myanmar. Now it's the other way around, but Burma is still used quite often, even by governments and the people living in Myanmar. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:31, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Many articles dealing with history of the area through the British period to the 1960s use Burma, to use the other would be an anachronism.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We decided to rename Côte d'Ivoire as Ivory Coast in July 2012 per Talk:Ivory Coast but Wikipedia:WikiProject Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire) was not set. That project became just Wikipedia:WikiProject Ivory Coast. Sawol (talk) 17:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: But the WikiProject wasn't "Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast)" before the move. In other words, the Myanmar people started it by insisting on "Burma (Myanmar)" when the article was at Burma. Now that it's at Myanmar, the rules have suddenly changed. It doesn't really matter to me except as a precedent: we should not be suppressing Burma in every context possible. Srnec (talk) 22:26, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

text: On the contrary, it is the effort to erase "Burma" and suppress it as much as possible that is politically motivated. The term is not deprecated. It is more common in many contexts than Myanmar and leading experts on Burma continue to use it. For all we know, one day it will go the way of Siam—or Myanmar might go the way of Zaire. Until either one does, however, the effort to suppress Burma as "colonialist" or POV is what is politically motivated. Srnec (talk) 18:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Did you support 'WikiProject Myanmar (Burma)'? Did you support 'WikiProject Myanmar'? Sawol (talk) 17:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: WikiProject Myanmar. GoodDay (talk) 17:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate

message: Hello board, please help translate the following from English into Burmese (Myanmar):
*Please do not contribute text in Burmese (Myanmar) to English Wikipedia. Your contributions are more than welcome at the Burmese Wikipedia.
I'm impartial to the naming dispute. Just need the translation. It will be used to create a template at Template:Notenglish.–– Gilliam (talk) 15:44, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation request (Burmese language) 

message: Dear editors:  This draft has quite a few references, and may be ready to be accepted into the encyclopedia.  However, it needs some adjustment of names and titles.  I understand that "Thakin" is a title, rather than a name.  Should the article then be called "Kyaw Tun"?  In the article, is his surname "Tun"?  Are there other names that need to be changed to fit Wikipedia's policies?—Anne Delong (talk) 07:49, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Draft:Thakin Kyaw Tun]] 

message: Does anyone have access to properly detailed results for the Burmese general election, 1960? A book I'm using (Political parties in Asia and the Pacific) lists the "Independent Party Unity Organisation" (a Shan party) as having won one seat in the elections, but the only source I have for the results does not list them (and I cannot find any reference to them online). Any help would be gratefully received. Cheers, Number 57 23:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Similarly, the parties book also has the United National Pa-O Organisation (3 seats) Karen Congress (2) and People's United Party (2) all listed as anti-AFPFL organisations winning seats in the 1951 elections, but none are listed in the results source. The book also states the UNPO won 3 seats in 1960, but this is not corroborated by the results book... Number 57 23:40, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: 1960 election

message: Please see discussion at Talk:Aung San Suu Kyi#Name. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 03:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referring to Aung San Suu Kyi as Suu Kyi 

message: I have added some material to Computer University, Pakokku, but the article is still a stub. If you can expand the article and add references, please do so. I have not been able to find much about it in English, and I don't red Burmese. Myanmar has several other computer universities, and it would probably be worthwhile to add articles about them as well. Eastmain (talk • contribs)  10:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer University, Pakokku 

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thread_title:   Proposed deletion of Pakokku University 

message: Hello.
I clicked on the cleanup listing on the bottom of the page. However, the link to it is actually flipped. I was wondering if there was a way to fix this. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:23, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup listing error 

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message: A pretty incomprehensible article with badly or unsourced material, most of which seemed irrelevant. I've removed quite a bit (eg "The Zo and the mi are two words but their relation is combination in physical and chemically in nature" although that might have been removed from another edit by the creator of this article). It's still a bit of a trainwreck. Doug Weller talk 10:45, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Zomi nationalism]] 

message: Someone from this project might want to weigh in on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Let's use Burma instead of Myanmar in Wikipedia. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Perennial...

message: Please see this AFD. It would be helpful if someone can find sources. Thank you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Basic Education High School No. 1 Kamayut]] 

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