Talk:Charles Villiers Stanford

message: There is an article by Robert Anderson on Stanford, Bax and (George or Jonathan - presumably George?) Lloyd which at least mentions the 6th symphony in volume 130, February 1989, p 94 the Musical Times. Will log into my university staff account and read it (Jstor scanned it in, accessible using library acct) later, see if it contains any information on the symphony, the composer, helpful to any of the three composers' articles. Schissel | Sound the Note! 19:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Musical Times'' article

message: I added a sentence to the article (hopefully not disrupting the flow of the Britannica text) about the popularity of Beati Quorum Via in school choirs.  My Glee Club is singing it right now, but we seem to be the only choir in the country that remembers the other two motets that go with it.  Maybe they're not as good as Beati, but I like them performed as a set. -- The Realms of Gold (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Beati is the most popular of the three motets, though my personal opinion is that it is most popular because it is the easiest! but that is not the point. I disagree strongly, however, in that it is "representative" of the "genre of Stanford, Elgar, Perry, &c." Maybe it represents part of Stanford's style, but I really don't think it represents the music of Elgar and Parry, as their styles are even more wide-ranging and diverse. Stefan (talk) 00:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much Beati! 

message: There are at least three books of short organ preludes missing from the works list, including Op. 101 and 105. -- JTL 23:14, 24 January 2008 (EST)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.20.97 (talk)  
:There's loads missing from the works list - Stanford was unbelievably prolific! Is it really necessary? Wilus (talk) 13:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No reason we can't have a 'major' works list on the main page, with an attempt at a complete one on a seperate page, like many other composers have. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 15:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Works list 

message: BBC Radio 3 seems to pronounce his second name as "Villers" quite consistently, as though they know something everyone else does not.  Is that right?  has anyone seen his birth certificate?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.56.43 (talk) 21:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was told years ago the correct pronunciation is indeed "Villers", but I can't cite a written authority for this. There's no doubt as to the spelling of his name however. Wilus (talk) 12:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I don't mean to offend anyone, but the recording of 'The Blue Bird' is a particularly ugly recording.  Is it possible to get a better one ?  All very subjective, I know !  -Tpacw (talk) 11:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You have to find a free one. Unfortunately,  that's probably impossible. Goto any WP page with a recording, even very popular ones, and they will be just as bad, or worse. The basic reasoning is that it's better to have something free and bad than nothing at all. Agree or disagree, it's the general direction of WP. Check out the sound list for a large DIR of more free stuff just to see the general quality stuff takes. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

text: This isn't just a poor recording - it's one countertenor singing all the parts and, while that's impressive, the result is a really bad representative of Stanford's music. If Wikipedia encourages editing for clarity, I think the novelty factor of this recording should be noted up front.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.34.142 (talk) 00:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And it's such a lovely piece...  MistyMorn (talk) 17:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording 

message: Was this Irishman of catholic or protestant denomination? From Germany: Stephanie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.54.174 (talk) 10:03, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Tim riley (talk) 13:13, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Rereading the question I now suspect it asks which of the two he was. He was protestant. Tim riley (talk) 13:27, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Perhaps that should be part of this excellent article? Stephanie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.90.10 (talk) 17:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Which flavor of Protestant? Church of Ireland? Also, what year did he go to Cambridge? The article is rather vague about that. Angr (talk) 13:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the year he went up to Cambridge. As to his religious affiliation, he was a conventional upper-middle-class churchman and not Roman Catholic. He wrote much religious music for the established church, some of it still in the Anglican repertoire. Tim riley talk  19:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denomination 

message: There is a list of Stanford's pupils in a paragraph in the article proper, followed by a list of pupils in a note, followed by a link to a list of his pupils. How many lists do we need? Hyacinth (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: An editor deleted a large amount of material from the list of big names in the article and added a clunky link in the text, which looked amateurish in the extreme. To placate him/her I put in the link in a less obtrusive note, in which minor names are listed. I wonder why that editor and you, Hyacinth (you are not presumably the same person) suddenly think you know better than the editors who peer reviewed this article and reviewed it at FAC. As to how many lists we need, I agree that three is probably too many. I suggest leaving the big names in the main text, the minor names in the note and deleting the unnecessary link to the third list. Tim riley talk  08:16, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been vetted by dozens of experienced editors.  Any deletion of well-referenced information needs to have a clear consensus.  Please explain, Hyacinth, why you believe that this discrete and compact footnote is not helpful in the article? It seems to me that it provides a useful list here, and we need not make readers click away to find the information. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Despite Hyacinth's concern that three lists are too many I don't think the link to the omnium gatherum list of pupils does any harm, even though that page gets an average of less than one hit a day. Our first concern should be to benefit the reader: the link to the one-a-day page obviously doesn't belong in the main text, but leaving it in the footnote will not mislead many readers into clicking into that obscure article. I suggest, on reflection, that we leave the link in the footnote, rather than removing it altogether.  Tim riley talk  18:59, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: List of pupils

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message: The "Works" section, which seems to be based on a somewhat old overview, does little justice to "The Blue Bird". I hear it on various classical music stations all the time, with various recordings, mostly excellent performances (I personally prefer Rutter's, but that's probably because of his association with the annual outdoor performance by Cambridge University's choral society). I'd love to assert this popularity, but I hope someone else can find actual verifiable sources. Also, the song deserves its own page: it has recently been called "perhaps the ideal impressionistic musical realization of a bird in flight and the shimmering effects of light on water, and I'll put that on my to-do list. David Brooks (talk) 15:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Blue Bird popularity