Talk:The Offspring

message: Any reason why the band is referred to as plural?  In American english, entities and groups are singular...i.e. "The Offspring IS" or "The Offspring HAS"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.233.5 (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Singular vs. plural]]

message: Does anyone have a source for the lawsuit threat from the GNR camp?
The Offsprings official website says the band chose to change the name themselves after they weren't able to get anything done, no mention of a lawsuit. The Chinese Democracy Wiki page says it was an April Fools joke, everything else I can find online concurs with one of those two statements.
Unless someone can find a source more reliable than the bands official website to say there was a lawsuit I'll change it.
(And incidentally is it even possible to copyright an album name?) Danikat (talk) 08:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Chinese Democracy]]

message: The Offspring is clearly grunge influenced (loud-soft dynamics, lyrical themes). Post-grunge is a genre that is a more commerical version of grunge.
:They are grunge influenced but that does not mean they are post-grunge. If you look at popular post-grunge bands, such as: nickelback,creed, papa roach etc. they do not have any musical similarities to the offspring. Also the soucre provided for that claim does not state that they are post-grunge it states that they used a similar formula of grunge music in their earlier work.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.227.68 (talk) 01:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Post-grunge

message: Huntington Beach? Garden Grove? I can't find sources for either city.Hoponpop69 (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Where was the band formed?

message: '"Gone Away" appears on Ixnay on the Hombre and is arguably one of the best songs released by Offspring.' Isn't that a very POV statement to make. DavidJJJ (talk) 18:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's definitely a POV statement to make. I just removed it. Alex (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: Breakthrough implys you all of a sudden breakthrough into the mainstream, you can not be a breakthrough sucess for 8 years, eventually you become an established act. If no one objects I'm going to split this into two sections.Hoponpop69 (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why "breakthrough success" should have it's name changed or be split into two sections

message: I thought The Offspring is Punk rock, Hardcore punk and Alternative rock. I think we should add Hardcore and Alternative in the Infobox.
A new genre can be added to the infobox, as long as there is a source provided. Jacknife737 (talk) 17:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Alternative rock and Post-grunge because their music is described as both on allmusic.com.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.173.19.156 (talk) 12:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Genre(s)''' 

message: There are lots of these under the RAFRAG section; I think they are inappropriate for the main article. There is a Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace Tour page where they are contained so why not keep them there. Is it really necessary to know every single concert that The Offspring plays in?--The Skeleton (talk) 13:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Concert dates in the main article

message: I think the table is unnecessary and should be removed, i think the single names of current, former, and tour members is pretty enough... someone deal with this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.230.7.147 (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Band Members

message: Chris "X-13" Higgens is still a band member, in the booklet for the Rise and Fall Rage and Grace, on the last page it says that backing vocals by "Higgens (X-13)", thereby that's clarifying that he is still indeed a band member, so it would make no sence to put him under currect muscians.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Offspringfan16 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Higgens still a band member. 

message: This line doesn't make sense: "The band's next three albums, Ixnay on the Hombre, Americana and Conspiracy of One, were also successful, reaching platinum certification and gold status respectively.[12][13]"
There's a list of three items then 2 qualifiers listed as "respectively". The number of items in the lists doesn't match, making the statement ambiguous.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeldest (talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read that too. So, which were platinum, and which gold? Needs to be rewritten.Yobmod (talk) 09:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have re-phrased it. All actually achieved platinum status according to the RIAA site, with Americana reaching 4x platinum, so I put that in too. Feel free to clarify things yourselves in future with the sources provided and fix the article. It's what wikipedia is all about! Nouse4aname (talk) 10:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 3 Albums' status

message: Isn't "Stuff is Messed Up" also a single? At least, they relased a video for this song.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.27.46.89 (talk) 06:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Rise anf Fall, Rage and Grace" singles

message: The Offspring's discogrpahy is overwhelming composed of punk rock songs. Punk Rock is still the primary influence in their newest albums. For what reason would they be considered more rock than punk rock or pop punk?
:Because like Green Day, they are in fact Glam Rock? Sign you fucking comments. 75.172.11.5 (talk) 01:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk Rock 

message: The band has a very good degree of influence by Oriental Music. Well, shouldn't the details be included in the influences?Muthuppattar (talk) 09:51, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastern influence 

message: On search engines such as Yahoo, when you find the official Offspring site by searching for it, you see this message under the link to the official site: "The Offspring - The official web site of the Southern California punk band."
Source: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=offspring&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.92.184 (talk) 21:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What they call themselves for promotional and ego reasons does not actually always equate to what in fact they are, which is a "Glam Rock" band like Green Day. Seriously, punk? Nope, not by 27.3 miles. 75.172.11.5 (talk) 01:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Glam rock? lol no. -Disco dude rock (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk Rock? 

message: There is no mention regarding to Jason "Blackball" McLean ("You gotta keep 'em seperated" and "Mota"), John Mayer (Intermissions and random speech) and Calvert DeForest, Larry "Bud" Melman (hidden track on Ixnay, one liners on Americana)
This is not very well known; name do not appear on album covers, and Google does not give it up easily. (With much thanks to UhhOhh and ToNkA.)
Bushy555 (talk) 06:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention at all about the various included voices throughout the albums 

message: It's kind of odd that there is way more about what the band has been doing in the last three years than about everything they did before 2000, the years of their formation and greatest success. Shouldn't the focus be on the period when the band was at the height of its influence?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.206.151.130 (talk) 04:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: ALSO-Why is it never mentioned that "Self Esteem" starts as almost a direct steal of Nirvana's "Smells like Teen Spirit"?..it almost mocks the song.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.116.55 (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Because we don't have a reliable source making that claim. - SummerPhD (talk) 23:48, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Smells like Teen Spirit" is in the key of F natural minor with a i-iv-♭III-♭VI chord structure. "Self Esteem" is in the key of C major with a vi-IV-I-V chord structure. They might sound similar to you, but they are not musically similar.Phil Meltzer (talk) 20:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  different key, sure but the structure and dynamics are very recognizable as a blatant intentional use of a successful style and format. Youtube has dozens of videos poiting out this copycat action, plus Gone Away borrowing from tears for fears song mad world. Are youtube analysis not yet considered decent references to cite? 50.34.176.137 (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, and most of them will never be. They are just random people without credentials that back them up. (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:09, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heavy focus on recent years 

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message: How are any of these bands considered to be associated acts? Any objections to the entire section being deleted? Phil Meltzer (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated acts 

message: In the section The Offspring and Ignition, looks like an editing error at the end of the section has left the sentence unfinished.  SquashEngineer (talk) 17:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Error 

message: The article and the Pete Parada article have been substantially edited to reflect that Parada is no longer a member of The Offspring citing an article on Blabbermouth. Whilst the headline for that article says he was "fired", the article is largely quoting his instagram story which is to the effect that he won't be appearing in the upcoming tour. It isn't clear from the instagram story or the article whether he has been fired or whether he is just missing the tour. Mainstream articles have avoided saying that he is fired. e.g. BBC News says "Parada joined the group in 2007 and it is not clear whether he has now left permanently." and Kerrang says "It’s not clear yet whether this is just a temporary hiatus, though Pete says he is ​“in the midst of launching a project and releasing some music with my daughter”".
I think the article ought to reflect that he has been dropped from the tour but that it isn't yet clear whether he is going to remain a member of the band.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58085459
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/pete-parada-dropped-from-offspring-for-not-getting-covid-19-vaccine/ Irony88421 (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pete Parada fired? 

message: Should the lead call The Offspring a "rock band" or a "punk rock band"? Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 16:41, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Punk rock - Since they are known for punk rock and the body of the article infers that they are a punk rock band, this description of their band is appropriate. Pickalittletalkalittle (talk) 18:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: I want to ask if i can add Jonah Nimoy to the official member list. Because he now also appears along the other offical members. 194.171.154.136 (talk) 10:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: On List of members of the Offspring, he appears as a touring musician. Do you have reliable sources that state he is a full member? Liu1126 (talk) 10:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: On his Instagram bio he stated he is a multi instrumental dude for the Offspring but not as a Touring member. 194.171.154.136 (talk) 10:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Instagram is not a reliable source as it is a WP:UGC. Also noting that the List of members of the Offspring uses Twitter as the source for Jonah Nimoy's inclusion, so I removed his information there per WP:RSPX and WP:SELFSOURCE. Liu1126 (talk) 10:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I got this article in which is stated Jonah Nimoy is indeed part an official member now. https://starmus.com/person/the-offspring 86.92.93.146 (talk) 13:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 13:23, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2023 

message: Change Garden Grove, Ca to Huntington Beach, Ca 156.146.199.216 (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 09:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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