Talk:Reed switch

message: I find "patent claim" language very difficult to read and I don't think it's intended for the same purposes as "encyclopedia language". Patent claims use certain forms and conventions so that the patent has a good chance of standing up in court. An encyclopedia article should be considerably less stilted in tone. 
I also find lists of patents to be incredibly dull and I doubt that one reader in 100 will run down more than one or two on the list.  If the reader had the patience to work out how something works from reading dozens of patents, he wouldn't need an encyclopedia article at all! --Wtshymanski 22:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I find them incredibly exciting and I figure that 66% of reader will run down more than one or two on the list (it is just a click away with the list there) if they want more information on this topic. USPatent
BTW, the list also has historical implicationd. It is a list of poeple that have improved the device! And the diagrams and images are nice. USPatent 14:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Patent lists and language

message: Anyone can hit "reed switch" on a search engine and get the list of patents - so it seems pointless to merely list them all here without any summarization of why any particular patent is important.  Certainly you'll have a hard time figuring out how anything works from patent langugage, which is  intended to be vauge, extensible, and as inclusive as possible.  Until someone can explain to me why each of these patents deserves to be listed in the article, I will continue to object to a willy-nilly list being dumped in.   It's also bad form to copy from a patent claim, which a lot of the turgid description sounds like. For heaven's sake, write it in English!  --Wtshymanski 02:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Patent language

message: Oh wonderful.  Cool picture borrowed from a patent, but now the opening paragraph is just plain WRONG. It's not the source of potential that attracts the reeds together, it's the applied magentic field.  The very *essence* of a reed switch's operation is now missing from the lead paragraph. This is not an improvement. I haven't got time to fix this and I'm sore tempted to just revert back.  
The patent list is NOT important - or at least not encyclopediac.  A long list of primary sources without any commentary or summary or analysis is just worthless. I object to this padding of the article. --Wtshymanski 17:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello again. The patent list is not useful. SUMMARIZE the developments and tell the reader, don't just say " Hey, go spend the next 4 hours waiting for .TIFFs to download 'cause I can't be bothered to tell you what the developments are!".  Once again I object to the "big dumb list" school of Wikipedia article inflation. And just what IS a "close proximity"?  As opposed to a "far proximity"?  --Wtshymanski 20:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: If I were to ask you what a "watch" is, would you reply that it's a "configuration of gearwheels and escapement mechanism, said escapement disposed with a hairspring and antifriction pivot points, the whole assemblage encased in a metallic or other suitable impermeable container, the enclosure provided with a transparent portion through which one or more indicator pointers or wheels may be observed, the adjustment of the escapement set to provide a rythymic advance of the the mechanism at a temporal rate little influenced by exterior factors, the whole mechanism energized by a flat helical elastic metallic member." ?  Or would you say "It's a small gadget for keeping time." ? Lead paragraph MUST be changed. --Wtshymanski 20:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree 110% with Wtshymanski. — Omegatron 18:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hey there!

message: Should this be listed in list of patents? It's in the category. Looked through the history and found this ... 
===Patents===   
;1930s to the 1960s
* Ellwood, , Electromagnetic switch 
* Ellwood, , Electromagnetic switch  
* Karrer, , Electromagnetic switch 
* Jacobson et al., , Switching device
* Prival, , Method of making reed-type switch contacts  
* Killion, , Encapsulated reed relay
* Reck, , Apparatus for making seal contact reed relays 
* Hoeppel, , Magnetic reed-type ultrasensitive circuit breaker
* Anderson et al., , Seal magnetic switch and method of manufacture
* Krikac, , Magnetically operated switch for ignition system
;1970s
* DeFalco, , Push button reed switch
* Grengg, , Reed switch contact construction
* Zandt, , Sealed magnetic swap switch
* Bentz et al., , Flow sensing device
* Bruce, , Reed relay terminal construction
* Mattes, , Latching reed relay 
* Ege, , Encapsulated reed switch relay construction
* Myatt, ,  Weatherproof pushbutton key set employing sealed contacts operated by a permanent magnet  
* Santi , , Method of assembling dry reed switches
* Posey, , Magnetically actuated reed switches
* Zollman , , Manufacture of reed switches 
* Beavitt, , Reed switches   
* Sakatos, , Reed switch apparatus  
* Zimet, et al., , Reed relay
* Shlesinger, Jr., , Magnetically acutated reed switch assembly
* Launt, , Latchable magnetic reed switch
* Morrill, Jr., , Reed switch and process for making them
* Inouye et al., , Glass useful for forming reed switch sealing tube
* Morrill, Jr.,  , Reed switches and process for making them
* Fox, et al., , Reed switch relay
* Neese, , Multi-element reed capsule sealing apparatus and method for making 
* Shlesinger, Jr., et al., , Reed and reed switch therefor
* Launt, , Compact reed switch relay 
* Morgan, , Reed switch construction
* Abele, , Dry-reed contact construction 
* Morgan, , Reed switch construction 
* Kawase, et al., , Electromagnetic switch
* Seeley, , Coated magnetically biased reed switch
* Nicholls, , Permanent magnet biasing means for reed switches 
* Beavitt, , Reed contact unit
Just a note ...
Either include the list or remove the category. thanks! J. D. Redding 03:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Should this be listed in list of patents?

message: ;1930s to the 1960s
* Ellwood, , Electromagnetic switch 
* Ellwood, , Electromagnetic switch  
* Karrer, , Electromagnetic switch 
* Jacobson et al., , Switching device
* Prival, , Method of making reed-type switch contacts  
* Killion, , Encapsulated reed relay
* Reck, , Apparatus for making seal contact reed relays 
* Hoeppel, , Magnetic reed-type ultrasensitive circuit breaker
* Anderson et al., , Seal magnetic switch and method of manufacture
* Krikac, , Magnetically operated switch for ignition system
;1970s
* DeFalco, , Push button reed switch
* Grengg, , Reed switch contact construction
* Zandt, , Sealed magnetic swap switch
* Bentz et al., , Flow sensing device
* Bruce, , Reed relay terminal construction
* Mattes, , Latching reed relay 
* Ege, , Encapsulated reed switch relay construction
* Myatt, ,  Weatherproof pushbutton key set employing sealed contacts operated by a permanent magnet  
* Santi , , Method of assembling dry reed switches
* Posey, , Magnetically actuated reed switches
* Zollman , , Manufacture of reed switches 
* Beavitt, , Reed switches   
* Sakatos, , Reed switch apparatus  
* Zimet, et al., , Reed relay
* Shlesinger, Jr., , Magnetically acutated reed switch assembly
* Launt, , Latchable magnetic reed switch
* Morrill, Jr., , Reed switch and process for making them
* Inouye et al., , Glass useful for forming reed switch sealing tube
* Morrill, Jr.,  , Reed switches and process for making them
* Fox, et al., , Reed switch relay
* Neese, , Multi-element reed capsule sealing apparatus and method for making 
* Shlesinger, Jr., et al., , Reed and reed switch therefor
* Launt, , Compact reed switch relay 
* Morgan, , Reed switch construction
* Abele, , Dry-reed contact construction 
* Morgan, , Reed switch construction 
* Kawase, et al., , Electromagnetic switch
* Seeley, , Coated magnetically biased reed switch
* Nicholls, , Permanent magnet biasing means for reed switches 
* Beavitt, , Reed contact unit
Just a note ...
Either include the list or remove the category. thanks! J. D. Redding 03:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Patents

message: The article doesn't say how the magnetic reed actually moves.
I mean, you can activate a regular normally open SPST reed switch with a N pole or S pole magnet (I think) and from any side of the glass envelope. What makes it uni-directional? A reed made of normal iron/steel won't do that.
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveDodgy (talk • contribs) 13:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How the reed actually moves 

message: How many open & close cycles can a typical reed switch handle before it starts becoming erratic, or the contacts stick shut (or open)? Assuming no or little current passes through the contacts.
Or perhaps the article could state that reed switches typically last from 5000 to 50,000,000 switchings (or whatever it is).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveDodgy (talk • contribs) 14:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  MTBF/operation cycles 

message: I added a common symbol, since I was looking for it, but didn't find it here.
I don't know if it is a standard (as in IEEE whatever), but it seems to be a common, recognisable one.
It's the one I use anyways.
Grahamatwp (talk) 11:42, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circuit Symbol 

message: Some info on typical maximum switching frequency would be great.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proffiehenniedm (talk • contribs) 06:33, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maximum switching frequency 

message: Reed switch is in the switch category, but shouldn't it also be in the sensor category? How about the Magnetic device category? Tweisbach (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sensor category