Talk:Guido de Bres

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message: removed because I have been accused of promoting my book ieuan Sant 23:30, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is already an article under Guido de Bres and Guido de Bray will be merged within seven days (see below)  - suggest you migrate any useful content to the original article here. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: NOte if your main puprose here is to plug your own book forget it.  This encyclopaedia can be edited by anyone and you have no ownership of articles that you create. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

text: OK, you don't want the article merged. That is your opinion, two others disagree so it looks like it will be merged.  Both names are used for this person in various sources.  Wikipedia guidelines (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (proper names)) state that Redirect pages can insure that all variants lead to the desired article.Wikipedia:Content forking#Redundant content forks states: Content forking can be unintentional or intentional. While Wikipedia contributors are reminded to check to make sure there is not an existing article on the subject before they start a new article, there is always the chance they will forget, or that they will search in good faith but fail to find an existing article, or simply flesh out a derivative article rather than the main article on a topic. Wikipedia's principle of assume good faith should be kept in mind here. If you suspect a content fork, give the creator of a duplicate article the benefit of the doubt. Check with people who watch the respective articles and participate in talk page discussions to see if the fork was deliberate. If the content fork was unjustified, the more recent article should be merged back into the main article. There is clearly no justification for having two articles about the same person with different titles. The naming difference is likely just the difference in naming between Flemish and Wallonian. Now either you can co-operate in the merging by transferring content or not. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
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message: Obviously Guido de Bray has to be merged with this page, as we cannot have two articles about the same person.  I propose to merge the content within seven days and then convert this article into a redirect. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: removed irrelevant ieuan Sant 23:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment (moved from Talk:Guido de Bray)

message: Now that we have one article about Guy/Guido de Bray/Bres again: do we want to open a discussion about the article title? In my opinion there is no "wrong" name, all four versions are used in English. I created redirects from some other versions, and "caught" a few red links that way. I'm not an expert on 16th century theologians, but from a general point of view, I'd say that Guy is the French and English version, and Guido the Dutch and Latin version. Bray and Bres are both French, and pronounced similarly in French. Markussep Talk 11:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the majority of journals and books I can find online in English say de Bres or de Brés, sometimes de Bray is given in parentheses.  Also it looks as if most other references in Wikipedia say de Bres. So I disagree. Perhaps we should raise a request for comment? Please remember sign your posts by typing four tildes  ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button  located above the edit window.  This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
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