Talk:Time Lord

message: What about Susan, if we accept Eric Saward's contribution to the ouvre?
:Saward's story aside, actually, Susan should be on the list, since we've already categorised her as a Time Lord - with a side note. I'll take care of it. Incidentally, which anniversary special was this? 1993? --khaosworks 13:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll have a look tonight - it's on my beside table. It has Colin Baker in it...GraemeLeggett 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. I know there've been a few, so it's good to specify. --khaosworks 15:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Time lords 

message: I am uncomfortable with placing Saward's story within the portion of the article that is basically an iteration of the background that the novels and audios seem to draw on, i.e. the Cartmel Masterplan. It's not that Saward's story is not valid, but it's so contradictory to what current fanon seems to assume that it seems out of place there. The reason I say that Saward's story is generally ignored by fans is because that appears to be true at the moment - everybody working on the licensed fiction seems to draw from the "Other" story in Lungbarrow or at least does not contradict it, and nobody appears to make any reference to the Saward version. 
Part of my uneasiness also stems from the fact that there's a lot of different stories out there as well which are also ignored, like the origin of the Cybermen on a medieval type Mondas reprinted in Banks' Cybermen book that no-one seriously even considers as canon, so if Saward's story is in there why not those? I grant that as the script editor during the 80s, his story carries a bit of weight, so I'm not sure what a good solution would be here, as I am also hesitant in leaving it out. Perhaps the history section needs a rewrite to sort out on-screen from off. --khaosworks 09:38, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it helps to illustrate the rich variety of the history. (or that canon is what you want it to be) The greatest problem with the "ignored by fandom" is in what fandom means - we can't quantify it, making NPOV difficult. As it was a one off in a magazine and 20 years ago, I suspect only some of those who read it at the time took it into their personal canon and the rest forgot. The Catrmel masterplan have a broader reach in time though maybe known by fewer numbers???. Perhaps we need to identify the sketchy TV history from the alternative threads of the novels etc. Let me try something with that bit of the section it can always rv. GraemeLeggett 10:27, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth of a Renegade

message: Given that there is a significant "History" section on this page, I don't think it makes sense to have a separate page for history.  I don't think that this article is long enough to warrant a separate article for this section, so I propose that History of the Time Lords be folded into Time Lord#History, with any relevant information included and proper subheadings and organisation developed. ACB Smith (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 10:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose: the main article is already long, and the history article is (mostly) carefully referenced and certainly not brief. Therefore a summary/main structure, as currently exists, seems to work. Klbrain (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal with [[History of the Time Lords]]