Talk:A5 road (Great Britain)

message: Whilst I appreciate that the level of detail prior to the mass-deletion was excessive, this article is now badly under-worded. There's no mention of the junctions with any other roads, of the grade-separated dual carriageway through Milton Keynes or the alterations made with the A55 in north Wales. These all really ought to be in there, but I'm afraid to add them in case some deletionist decides that things other people find interesting are 'boring'. Tom walker (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a talk page for the UK Roads project, where you could raise it?  I can see both sides of the argument.  When people started to add stuff like "a former Little Chef", then really you had to question the value.  But you are right - the article now is characterless.  By the way, the infobox lists all the major roads crossed and main towns en route. (as defined by the DoT or Environment or whatever it is this week). --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There appears to be two opinions on this.  One is for a tight 'just list the major destinations as determined by the MoT 'green signs'. See the recent edit to talk:A45 road#Article style, citing the A1 road (Great Britain) and the A66 road (Great Britain) as examples of good practice.  I have just edited down to that standard and User:Jeni immediately reverted.  We clearly need a consensus MOS. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Consensus above is pretty clear on the subject! Jeni (talk) 14:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where?  Why does A1 road (Great Britain) not follow it? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:06, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article should mention all of the information from the infobox in it somewhere so all of the roads in the list should appear somewhere in the text. I cannot see a problem with a larger description of the route so you get an idea of the road and its layout, rather than a very short description of just a few road that it joins which does not paint any picture of the features along the route. Keith D (talk) 15:09, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The A6 road (Great Britain) article is a current example of what happens when the WP:Trivia and WP:Essay policies are ignored. Do we really want that? Again, where is the relevant UK Roads MOS? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At least make realist comparisons! The A5 route section is nothing like the A6 one you cite. Please do point something out which has relevance. Jeni (talk) 21:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Oh, please do put them in!  I can't believe details have been taken out !  anyone with a genuine interest in this road want;s to know. 83.147.179.6 (talk) 15:58, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insufficient Detail 

message: I have opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Roads#Need for a 'UK Roads MOS'.  --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: UK roads MOS

message: This page needs a picture of the route of the A5 across england. Chogg (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a good map on this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watling_Street I've tried to add it in the info box, but my wikipedia skills are not up to it. Chogg (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed it for you. Keith D (talk) 19:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: As can be seen from the early sections of this talk page, this article tends to acumulate trivia (like speed limits and hamlets en-route) and predictable material (like congestion in built-up areas). For the reasons that were given in the previous discussion, I've done a clean-up. If anyone thinks that this 'local colour' should be included, take it to Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Roads. But more than likely the consensus will be - take it to SABRE wiki, A5 article --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia strikes again 

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message: There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways#Major junctions debate yet again that may affect the content of this article. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Even though fifteen is still quite a lot for an infobox, you do have to take in to account/consideration that the A5 is 243 miles long. However, if you can reduce it, then please do. If not, then I will do it in the new year. Roads4117 (talk) 19:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW John Maynard Friedman has cut junctions list to the eight roads of national importance, as shown on OS 1:1,000,000 scale mapping.  Roads4117 (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junctions table 

message: But if we must have this pettifogging detail, can it at least be correct? 
* Milton Keynes is in Buckinghamshire not Bedfordshire. 
** Bletchley is a constituent part of Milton Keynes: the current version is the equivalent of declaring a boundary between an animal and its own nose.  
* Bedfordshire ends and Buckinghamshire (specifically City of Milton Keynes UA) starts between Hockliffe and Bletchley, as described in the body text. At 51:58:07N,0:39:08W to be precise.
* The Little Brickhill/Woburn exit (just south of MK) is in the City of Milton Keynes UA.
* These exits are all in Milton Keynes proper:
** A4146 westbound
** A4146 eastbound 
** A421 spur 
** A509 terminus
** A422 eastbound
Is the rest of the table of the same level of (in)accuracy? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have corrected the errors for Buckinghamshire/MK. I assume that there are as many more elsewhere. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:50, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: At least get the elementary geography correct