Talk:Bibliography of Scientology

message: Most "bibliography" articles based on a topic are books about that topic rather than works written by people connected to that topic. If this is to remain the way it is, it should be renamed/reframed to indicate that it's not actually a bibliography of Scientology. Otherwise, there appear to be a whole lot of books about Scientology that aren't included here (including some that are, of course, critical). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I added an About hatnote to distinguish the separate written-by and critical-of bibliographies. Grorp (talk) 04:37, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I removed several redlinks caused by AfDs or never-written articles on individual books. Am logging them here so the AfD discussions can more easily be found. There may be other AfDs, but these are all I was able to find.
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dianetics: The Original Thesis
* Self Analysis
* Advanced Procedure and Axioms
* Handbook For Preclears
* Scientology 8-80
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scientology 8-8008
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Creation of Human Ability
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dianetics 55!
* Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought
* Problems of Work
* The Book of E-Meter Drills
* Introduction to Scientology Ethics 
* Scientology: A New Slant on Life
Grorp (talk) 04:37, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redlinks 

message: There are several more books that the Church of Scientology considers as part of the basic books collection (as re-released in 2007). C of S considers these BBs: 
* The Problems of Work
* Scientology: A New Slant on Life
* Clear Body, Clear Mind
* Scientology 0-8: The Book of Basics
* Introduction to Scientology Ethics
* The Way To Happiness
I considered moving these 6 entries up the page into the basic book section, but then I wondered why we should even care if the Church of Scientology designates some as part of their "basic book collection". I don't recall anything where Hubbard called them basic books; it's a new concept since 2007, courtesy of Miscavige. The prior book collection (1980s) was split between Dianetics and Scientology books with a dark red binding/cover color for the Dn books and dark blue for the Scn books (under their paper dust jackets). The current image they publish shows that there are about 8 different colors used in the book covers (under the paper). The 1980s colllection was about 12-14 books; Miscavige's new collection is 19 books.
"Basic Books" is simply a marketing or product label, as is "Basic Lectures", and "The Basics" (books + lectures).
At most we could have a paragraph mentioning which are part of the BB collection, or maybe have an indicator/symbol to indicate it on the entry for those books since we really should expand this page to include more of the Scientology books.
Grorp (talk) 04:37, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the basic books mention. Grorp (talk) 05:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basic book list 

message: A complete bibliography wouldn't care to delineate which books were published after the main author's death. Keep in mind this list is for "Scientology books", not just "Hubbard books". I added a sourced sentence in the lead that mentions that some books (based on the works of Hubbard) were published after his death. I have removed the section headings. Grorp (talk) 05:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I alphabetized the list by title. The article was sorted by earliest pub date, but some were wrong and sources also give conflicting first-pub dates. An alphabetical listing is more useful to readers searching for an item. I started to work over each paragraph, did about 6 books, making sure each has an ISBN for the current version of the book (print book, preferably hardback). For those books which don't have their own standalone article in Wikipedia, these paragraph could suffice as a target for wikilinking of the book title from other articles. Grorp (talk) 07:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization of page