Talk:Belvedere College

message: Someone keeps adding Terry Wogan as a past pupil. Odd since he was born and raised in Limerick and there is no boarding in Belvedere.  00:50, 7 February — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.12.120.91 (talk) 2006 (UTC)
Not really, he went to Belvedere in 5th and 6th year. Have a look in his auto biography. Got out of limerick as soon as he could! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.213.8 (talk) 22:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terry Wogan 

message: I attended Belvedere from 1982 to 1991 and never heard this particular song. When did it become popular? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.72.122.95 (talk) 12:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Only In God" 

message: Names keep on getting added here which may be notable but which do not have Wiki entries, nor any citations of notability given. I have removed the following : John Gerard Campbell; Paul Robert Duffy; Fionan Murphy; David Ryan; Karl Mullen - on the basis that there is nothing cited for them, and none of them have a Wikipedia entry of their own. The only one I've heard of is Karl Mullen. I appreciate that a presence on Wikipedia should not be a minimum requirement, but when such a presence is lacking, I think there should be some kind of indication of notability by another means. --Wastekiller 12:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni 

message: This section has been removed by user Mjss3. I thought it was useful, neutral information, although it might have been a bit more concise. Any thoughts? Curtains99 10:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The class naming system is a notable feature of the school. Please sign your comments by adding 4 tildes at the end of your comments (~~~~). Curtains99 13:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Belvedere Classification

message: I have tagged the article for cleanup. Curtains99 10:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's one line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjss3 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I meant to say the lead section before the contents pane is too long. Have a look at WP:IA for guidelines or any featured article to see that lead-in sections should not be this long. I will restore the cleanup tag. Curtains99 13:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First paragraph too long and unstructured

message: Anyone got a source for this? Curtains99 10:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One of Ireland's oldest schools

message: Someone has deleted the Belvedere Crest and motto from the top right hand corner of the page. Is there any way to recover it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.45.167 (talk) 21:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This image can be used:  <P>I don't know why it was deleted. It's not great quality and would probably be best to scan in a high resolution version. Curtains99 14:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belvedere Crest 

message: Is there someone in the school who continually removes the sections about the school class naming? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.89.58 (talk) 22:00, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop changing 'Moron' to 'Moran'. Thanks, Curtains99 20:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Editing

message: This section is a bit rambling.  I would suggest that the charitable fundraisers could be placed in their own section.  Sure, they stem from the school ethos, but a separate section would classify them as an aspect of school life, like science, sport etc. Tt 225 08:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jesuit Ethos

message: Blackboard Jungle ... hardly a sport, and should it be listed at all unless a trivia section is added? Tt 225 08:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you so obsessed by the word "trivia"? Winning Blackboard Jungle is one of Belvedere's major achievements and yes, quizzes are considered an intellectual sport just as board games like chess are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.71.58.73 (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear me, the hysteria.  I'm not obsessed, just giving a point of view.  This is a discussion page after all.  You have persuaded me that a quiz can fall within a wide definition of "sport".  However, "major achievement" is overstating things a little IMO. Tt 225 09:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sports

message: Each alumnus needs a source, proving he went to Belvedere. Unsourced alumni will be deleted. 193.1.74.97 12:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While it was a pain reinserting the alumni after they were all deleted, it's hard to disagree that they do need sources, and that whoever deleted them was correct. That being the case, some of the alumni are given sources from Wikipedia itself, which is kind of pointless ... Wikipedia is not a reliable third-party source as required by policy WP:Verify.  It is all too easy for an article about Joe Bloggs to say he went to Belvedere and for the article about Belvedere to list Joe as a past pupil, and for each to cite each other as verification.  Hence the  tags. Tt 225 21:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Citations are needed to show that someone attended this school. The citations need to be from a reputable source (not Wikipedia itself). Someone has addressed the problem of no citations being given for the majority of the past pupils by removing the citations needed tags. I've reinserted them. A long time ago (i.e. in 2007, see above), the same issue arose and an editor deleted almost the whole list. That's not ideal, but if a citation can't be given then a name ought not to remain on the list. Tt 225 (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for notable alumni 

message: Is there anyone who can list the atletics achievements of the school? I notice that it is not represented well on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.190.139.180 (talk) 08:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics 

message: Could someone please confirm that James MacNeill (2nd Govenor-General of the Irish Free State) was a past pupil. I know for a fact he was president of the PPU, so am assuming he was a Past Pupil. Also would anyone know who was the First President of the PPU, cant remember the name, though it was SIR something, possibly worthy of the Alumni list. Also am i correct in saying Richard Bruton went to Belvo, i know John went to Clongowes, but think Richard went to belvo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.139.8 (talk) 23:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni 

message: Can someone add Columba Marmion to the famous past pupils section.
In fact Im surprised there is no wikipedia article about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.229 (talk) 14:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Blessed Columba Marmion

message: Ugh, someone vandalised info box... I'd fix it myself but I fail at wikipedia editing :( --213.202.189.234 (talk) 21:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: As a part of the Schools Project trying to pare down the unassessed articles, I am assessing this article for that project.
This article is greatly under-referenced.  For a school that is over 150 years old, the history section is not even three lines long.  I am also concerned that the article is not written neutrally, and is written too promotionally.  Given this, I cannot assess the article beyond the "Start" level.
I am assessing this article as "Mid" importance for the project, though this is provisional.  There is a long list of notable alumni, including one of, if not the, most important 20th century writer in the English language, paired with the claim that one of his most important novels was based on his time here.  This should be able to promote this article to "High" importance in the project, but lacking sufficient referencing, it needs to stay at Mid importance.
If this article undergoes substantial improvement, please request a reassessment at the school's project.  I wish the editors best of luck in improving this article. LonelyBeacon (talk) 16:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: Could somebody add the class names and the names of the years? i.e. Xavier / Rhetoric, 2 Syntax, Grammar etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.134.11.112 (talk) 08:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class Names 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians. The general consensus on this talk page is that the history section leaves a lot to be desired. Following this, I have made an appointment to talk to the schools chief archivist and historian. 
It seems that there are many editors of this page that are or once were pupils of the school and it astounds me that this step hasn't been taken already. I will be sure to keep you all updated and as soon as I have sufficient unbiased information, I will be sure to let you know. Danbisset (talk) 09:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Research 

message: I see that a non-member of the project changed the prio, and was properly reverted. Indeed most individual schools are merely Notable (i.e. Low) but input welcome on whether Belvedere might be one of a small number to meet Mid? SeoR (talk) 19:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP Ireland priority rating