Talk:Semnopithecus

message: This sentence: "Hanuman langurs are largely gray, with a black face, which is thought to relate to Hanuman, a monkey warrior from the Ramayana  who burnt his hands and face trying to rescue Rama's wife. "
I can find nothing online that corroborates that reference. The Hanuman main article does not support it. There are mentions of Hanuman, the deity, being sentenced to having his tail burnt as punishment. Other (not so reliable) sources have Hanuman burning his face in the sun. Anyone got a source? --Rosetta1207 (talk) 15:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It took me awhile, but I've found one. I'll add it to the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfect. Thanks! --Rosetta1207 (talk) 16:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Description

message: Why is American spellings used? Note:
*the monkey is not found in America.
*the earliest bearing if the article did not use Amercian spelling (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gray_langur&oldid=2622920) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.247.153.83 (talk • contribs) 15:35, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
I would agree with this. There are lots of non US references for grey langur.
You try to make a cogent change to improve readability and it just gets reverted, with no cogent explanation. No wonder Wikipedia is losing editors:
Wikipedia:Why is Wikipedia losing contributors - Thinking about remedies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.172.114 (talk • contribs) 09:08, February 1, 2019 (UTC)
:Please sign your talk page posts. 
:We don't need both "gray langur "and "grey langur" int the article. We assume readers understand either. Both are acceptable English spellings, but "grey" is most common in the UK and "gray"  is most common in the US.
:The article was originally created  by user:Jimfbleak in 2004 as Grey langur but was moved to Gray langur by user:UtherSRG  three months later. It seems a bit odd. There is no particular to associate this article with the US, so I don't know why it was changed. Both of those editors are still active, so let's see what they have to say. Meters (talk) 09:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't care about which spelling is used. What I care about is consistency of spelling used in title and rest of page. But imo, it's ridiculous to war over whether gray and grey are different or same colours, or whether there are people anywhere who don't understand this is one and the same. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant policies are Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English and Wikipedia:Article titles#National varieties of English. The article was started by me with BE spelling, the species has no connection with North America, and the countries of the Indian subcontinent. I'm surprised that the article was moved, apparently against policy, by an experienced admin like  rather than the more usual US editor "correcting" the spelling. Unless he has a compelling reason, it should clearly revert to BE Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Before you continue discussing the spelling of colour names, lets bypass this altogether and move this page to Hanuman langur!! A name used anyway in most of listed refs, apart from Latin name. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 13:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs (talk) 22:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Gray langur →  – Per the above discussion and recent Google Scholar results, although a majority of the species are referred to as grey langurs, there are two species that are not referred to as such, so there is no defined common name for the entire genus according to recent research. Therefore, it would be most appropriate to move the page to Semnopithecus, and a disambiguation page should be created for "Gray langur." PrimalMustelid (talk) 14:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Vital articles has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 15:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Primates has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 15:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 December 2023