Talk:Raï

message: There has never been any evidence that Jewish quarters of Algiers were a centre for Rao music. Nor were any jews ever related to this form of music. Now that this genre has become popular, a lot of people are trying to associate themselves with its history though they can provide no evidence.--202.5.154.7 13:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted your change and provided a reference for the claim. Tuf-Kat 21:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Les juifs en Algérie ont beaucoup participé à la musique andalouse, une musique savante, mais aucunement au Rai. La musique andalouse a été amené en grande partie par des juifs, musulmans chassés de l'Espagne. Le Rai n'a pas été fait par cette partie d'algériens, mais par des bédouins. Il ne me semble pas qu'il y'a eu des juifs qui ont chanté el bedoui, parce que pour chanter El Bedoui faut faire partie du Bedw. Les juifs avaient un style particulier, qui est sympathique au passage, je pense à Salim Hilali, Lili Boniche, Lili Labassi, Maurice El Medioni, ... Et n'oublions pas que Maurice El Mediouni a été aidé par Belaoui Houari.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.252.38.146 (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish influence

message: Can someone who is more into the matter explain why are fundamentalists so against this form of music. Please, I would really like to know more details (and things that can't find their way into the main article). --212.200.210.224 14:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The reason for the anti-Raï mood in Islamic countries 

message: Drum machine, sequencer and synthesiser? This might be true for some artists now, but surely not throughout its history? Totnesmartin 12:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main instruments 

message: "Traditionally sung by men, at the turn of the 20th century, female singers became common."
This sentence is not quite accurate. Rai was originally a genre sung by women. (Please see ethnomusicological works by Virolle [Virolle, M. (2003) “Representations and Female Roles in the Raï Song.” in Magrini, T. ed. Music and Gender: Perspectives from the Mediterranean. Chicago: University pf Chicago Press], Morgan [Morgan, A. (2000) “Algeria – Raï: music under fire.” in  World Music: The Rough Guide. Africa, Europe and the Middle East” ], McMurray & Swedenburg [McMurray, D., & Swedenburg, T. (1991) “Rai Tide Rising.” In Middle East Report, No. 169, Crossing the Line. (Mar. - Apr.)] and, Langlois [Langlois, T. (2006) “Algeria: Urban musics; Raï” in Grove Music Online ed. L. Macy (Accessed 04/12/06), <http://www.grovemusic.com>]...I'm sure there are more!!).
It was during the 1960s when women were banned from performing in public that the genre was taken up by teenage boys (chebs). [McMurray & Swedenburg] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.41.120.251 (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women in Rai 

message: I understand that this form of music was brought to France via the *Mahgrebine* countries (Algeria, Morrocco and Tunisia) does anyone know anything more e.g. how it affected France etc. D. BULL 16:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rai in France 

message: "Oran is a seaport in Western Algeria, known since the Spanish invasion centuries ago" - 
"known" to whom? The people who lived and worked in the port would have 'known' it a long time before the Spaniards turned up.
I've changed it now. Totnesmartin 20:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eurocentrism - unacceptable 

message: "Chaba Aicha is the only young >unmarried< woman to sing rai publicly today"
Followed by:
"Whenever she does appear on the cover of a cassette, she is always accompanied by >her husband< and is fully clothed."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.112.32.4 (talk) 17:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would this Chaba Aicha even be mentioned in this article? I'm removing her. Sabertooth (talk) 06:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistancy 

message: *Aziz Bo Walam
*Chaba Zahouania
*Cheb Abdou
*Cheb Azzedine
*Cheb Hassen
*Cheb Kader
*Cheb Saidi
*Cheb Tarik
*Cheb Zhiri Younes
*Chebba Zahwania
*Mohammed Ray
*Mohamed Lamine
* Raïna Raï
* Chebba Zahouania
* Cheb Nasro
* Cheb Hassen
* Chebba Kheira
* Abdelhafid Douzi
* Cheb Abbas
* Cheb Zahouani
* Cheb Hanino
* Malik Adouane
* Tarik Lamirat
* Cheb Hakim
* Cheb Najim
* Cheb Aarab
* Cheb Lahbitri
* Cheb Rachid
Red links removed from article to talk because it not notable enough to have an article then not notable enough to be in list of notable artists (also, doesn't say why these are famous, and unsure is unambiguous to know which person is being referred to) RJFJR (talk) 15:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other famous raï artists 

message: I removed
*van der Merwe, Peter. (1989). Origins of the Popular Style: The Antecedents of Twentieth-Century Popular Music. Oxford: Clarendon Press. .
from the further reading as it does not appear to mention raï. Hyacinth (talk) 00:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Further reading: removed

message: Why, where, and how does this article need cleanup? Hyacinth (talk) 00:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That tag was on there long before I got involved with this page, and even before I got my Wikipedia account. I did make a major copyedit of this page in September 2010, and I guess that could have registered as a cleanup. Are you suggesting that it doesn't need more cleanup? If so, then I can see why that would make sense. I do not have any specific areas to suggest improvement on, but help is always welcome. Thank you for your interest. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 04:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

text: With that reasoning supplied, I feel that my removal of that tag is appropriate, then. The tag was not specific, and the page has evolved and improved significantly since November 2006. Thanks for bringing that to attention. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 05:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

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