Talk:Blossom Dearie

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message: Her lasting "hit" seems to be "Always True to You in My Fashion". AnonMoos 16:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Always True to You in My Fashion

message: I guess she's a fan.--T. Anthony 01:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: Is it 1924 or 1926? Thanks. Huntington (talk) 20:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: All references I'm aware of say her birth year was 1926.  Why do you think it might be 1924? Afterwriting (talk) 13:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was mentioned in the article, but it looks like someone fixed it; I have no opinion one way or another. Huntington (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: True birth date

message: In case the NPR archive link disappears, I am entering here a transcript from Marian McPartland's Piano Jazz of February 9, 2009, from approximately 7 minutes 10 seconds until 7 minutes 40 seconds:
(McPartland) "A lot of people ask me all the time, 'Is Blossom Dearie her real name?'"
(Dearie) "Yes it is my real name."
(McPartland) "I can't figure that out, how that came about."
(Dearie) "Dearie is the family name.  It's a Celtic name, Scottish and Irish.  And my Christian name is Margrethe -- which is the Scandanavian 'Margaret' -- like Princess Margrethe of Denmark."
(McPartland) "Right"
(Dearie) "M-a-r-g-r-e-t-h-e.   And the 'Blossom' was given to me 'cause I was born in the Springtime, and my brothers brought peach blo- uh, pear blossoms or something in the house and my dad said, 'Let's call her Blossom'"
:Thanks for this information.  Whilst it may well be correct I don't think it adequately meets the Wikipedia criteria for a verifiable source.  I will try to amend the article to include this.  Please note this your comments should have been placed at the bottom of this page rather than the top. Afterwriting (talk) 12:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: (Moved to bottom, thanks for the reminder)  Why did you remove the footnote link to the Piano Jazz program archive?   Did you listen to it?  In that program one can hear Blossom stating in her own voice the spelling of her name.  I think one can reasonably accept that a person knows the spelling of their own name!  Please help me understtand why you consider Blossom Dearie herself to be "no actual source"   131.241.8.250 (talk) 00:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this has changed since 2009!  An archived radio program from a reputable party such as NPR is now considered a reliable source (Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources#Definition_of_published).  Reverted the undo.   I do appreciate your concern for accuracy and reliability. JeffBuckles (talk) 06:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of "Margrethe" 

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message: Re: templates in the lede, what's the objection to calling her voice light and girlish? If those words are used in the sources given, is that OK or is someone suggesting synonyms be used? Or perhaps some other way of phrasing?–Vmavanti (talk) 22:31, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: These edits were made by an IP editor which I just reverted. Clearly someone hasn't heard Dearie and/or read the citations. Ckruschke (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I was not the one to describe her voice as"light and girlish", but it seems like a perfect description to me. Unschool 06:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

text: On the point of 'girlish' - anyone know how she described herself? If she described herself like that, or if other notable reporters did, that's fine. Historically, we should be careful to explain who is telling her story - i.e. "she was described having a 'girlish' voice at the time by many critics". Otherwise, I don't think it's appropriate to describe a musician as 'girlish'. It feels derogatory - especially because that term has been used that way to take music by women less seriously. To the point of reading the citations - reference 5 describes her as a "jazz pixie with a little-girl voice" and yes, I could hear why people would say it sounds 'girlish' from tracks like 'Plus Je T'embrasse', but that doesn't mean it's the right way to describe someone. For example, articles like 'Why Calling Women ‘Girls’ Is A Bigger Deal Than You May Think' does a better job of explaining it. Madsen has another article, 'Is calling women ‘girls’ a problem?'. "Language [like girly] can make women feel less mature, professional or responsible," which is her point. Instead, what if we focused on music descriptors, like her vocal range being something like D#3 - A5 or her use of head voice (the lightness we hear). I think users will find it more respectful if we remove gender associations like I tried to do in my last edit.   Abro.research (talk) 05:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light and girlish 

message: Currently the assertive reads, "Dropping her first name,[2] she began to sing in groups such as the Blue Flames", which presumes that earlier in the article, her given first name is mentioned, but as of January, 2018, it is not. Either this sentence need to be dropped, or the dropped name needs to be added beforehand. Unschool 06:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok - feel free to be bold and make a change. Ckruschke (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annoying name omission

message: What does that mean, in the lede? Are there no longer supper club/cabaret performers? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇  21:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Who knows. It wasn't supported by the link so I deleted the statement. Ckruschke (talk) 18:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "One of the last supper club/cabaret performers" 

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