Talk:Fall (disambiguation)

message: Another meaning is some kind of hairpiece, but I'm not clear on the distinction. Anyone know? Tualha (Talk) 00:15, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wig 

message: Someone needs to write there the Evanescence CD Fallen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.44.4.17 (talk) 22:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Fallen (Evanescence album)]] 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
* Oppose.  Autumn will be the most common meaning in links on Wikipedia, because it is a more likely topic of interest than falling.  This way of doing things is better; we do need an  on the top of Autumn, however.  Mangojuicetalk 17:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Fall (disambiguation)(redirect). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Regards, SONIC678 23:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fall (disambiguation)(redirect)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: I see a weak consensus for a temporary move as a test (4 support the move either temporarily or permanently, including nom, with 2 opposed), but no consensus on the final status (3 vs. 3). Reasonable arguments have been advanced for both final outcomes. I suggest that Crouch, Swale implement that temporary disambiguation page for a month or two so that we can see what the pageviews look like, then start another RM to determine the long-term result.  buidhe 23:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fall (disambiguation) →  – No primary topic. Autumn gets 16,378, Waterfall gets 14,787, Free fall gets 14,506, Fall of man gets 12,428 and Falling (accident) gets 3,721[]. All of those topics are topics with long-term significance and the accident meaning is very commonly associated with "fall" and here in England that's probably what "fall" means most of the time. While I understand this term is common in the US and is used in other countries (such as England) I don't think it is commonly used here while as noted the accident meaning is. Some of the items in "Other uses" also have some long-term significance to, noting that the Piano gets 45,375 and Iris (plant) gets 37,654. Also The Fall (band) gets 12,528, Fall (Davido song) gets 5,991 (though lacking long-term significance it is a full match and gets 1 out of around 2.737) and The Fall (Gorillaz album) gets 4,816. The DAB page gets over half the views of the Falls redirect (12 v 22 a day[]) suggesting many readers are landing on the wrong page (since some probably search again or give up), but not clear since people who land on the Autumn or click on the see also of other DAB could have ended up here. The US Free Dictionary lists the "verb" section first and "Autumn" as the 4th entry in the "noun" section. Similarly my Oxford Dictionary lists the verbs first and "Autumn" is the 5th item in the nouns. In summary the season gets less than some other topics so the "much more likely than any other" isn't met especially with regard to the Gorillaz album and long-term significance is held by multiple topics. I would also note that the term for the season derives "to fall from a height" so again that seems to point to long-term significance for the accident meaning. It would be far less confusing for all those not looking for the season to be sent to the DAB page rather than loading the season page and having to find the hatnote and then finding the article you want than the readers looking for the season to click on one of the 1st links on the DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk)  21:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 June 2020 

message: The results of the WP:DABTEST for July and August 2020 are in:
Candidate                                     	Pageviews	Percentage
Autumn (from disambiguation)                  	740      	73.1%
Falling (accident, from disambiguation)       	152      	15.0%
Fall (Eminem song, from disambiguation)       	29       	2.9%
Fall (academic term, from disambiguation)     	20       	2.0%
Fall (nautical term, from disambiguation)     	16       	1.6%
Fall (1997 film, from disambiguation)         	15       	1.5%
Fall; or, Dodge in Hell (from disambiguation) 	13       	1.3%
Fall (Davido song, from disambiguation)       	10       	1.0%
Fall (Ride EP, from disambiguation)           	5        	0.5%
Astrological fall (from disambiguation)       	4        	0.4%
Fall (Justin Bieber song, from disambiguation)	4        	0.4%
Meteorite fall (from disambiguation)          	3        	0.3%
Fall (Once Upon a Time, from disambiguation)  	2        	0.2%
Given the lack of evidence that Autumn is not the primary topic, the "no consensus" result in the June 2020 RM will hold, and the move will be reverted to the long-term status quo with no prejudice against a new RM acknowledging the results of this test. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes thanks King of Hearts that's the right thing to do but obviously the results didn't take into account the albums etc that do fail PT#2 but likely prevent #1. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:34, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I did take them into consideration. The ones I left out (by laziness) add up to ~1% of the raw results, not enough to tip the scales at all. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, sorry King of Hearts I was referring to Fall (Davido song) which only got 1%. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Thanks, King of Hearts - excellent work. Dohn joe (talk) 20:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pageview test results