Talk:Jerusalem

message: The short description of "Jerusalem" is "City in southern Levant." Similarly, the opening sentence defines Jerusalem as, "A city in West Asia." 
According to an RfC from 2013:
’’’Jerusalem’’’, located on a plateau in the Judean Mountains between the Mediterranean and Dead Seas...
Could this not be the short description? And why did someone subsequently add "West Asia" to the lead? I know the status of Jerusalem is a contentious political issue. I'm not trying to get involved in that. I simply want the article to reflect where the city is located more specifically on a map, rather than somewhere within a 5,994,935 km2 area. Commontater (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Usually, we would put the country but we can't do that here so I would imagine that is the reason for "West Asia", personally, I would not mind putting Southern Levant instead. The short description should be short so again, either as is or "West Asia" is fine with me. See what others think. Selfstudier (talk) 09:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short description 

message: The lede paragraph finishes with the sentence:This is followed by a link to Note 3 and a reference.  Note 3 begins:I suggest that this shows an unintended bias, as the definite article in the phrase "the capital" implies it applies to only a single entity – Israel, in this case – while the previous sentence makes clear that there are competing and contested Israeli and Palestinian claims.  I suggest that the text would be both more neutral and clearer as:or something similar.  Thanks.  1.141.198.161 (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there is absolutely no limit to amount of dispute over Jerusalem's capital-ness, couldn't someone counter the claim that the definite article implies it applies to only a single entity by saying that the use of a possessive apostrophe in "is Israel's capital" implies that it is, in fact, Israel's capital, and no one else's? In any case, someone more sensible than me will probably be along to handle your request. Sean.hoyland (talk) 09:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Not done, no improvement.Selfstudier (talk) 10:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Agree - The de facto capital of the State of Palestine in the West Bank is Ramallah. The Gaza Strip capital was considered Gaza City prior to the 2023-2024 conflict. Israel maintains control over most of the territories claimed as Jerusalem in this article. Its government institutions are located there and most countries and organizations support that West Jerusalem and East Jerusalem should be allocated as capital cities to the Israelis and the Palestinians. West Jerusalem is the focus of this article (there is an article for East Jerusalem.) BasedGigachad (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The focus of this article is Jerusalem, there is an article for West Jerusalem. Selfstudier (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request / suggestion 

message: 78.172.218.152 (talk) 08:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. User:CanonNi (talk|contribs) 08:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 April 2024 

message: "and Palestine ultimately foresees it as its seat of power." this is misleading charachterization that goes around the occupied nature of East Jerusalem under international law. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's in para 4 of the lead. Also don't forget we have that old RFC saying we don't go making substantive alterations without a large consensus. Selfstudier (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes and I guess it should in para 1 of the lede since the opening paragraph should establish context. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

text: No, because this is the factual situation, Palestine has no actual presence in Jerusalem. ---Lilach5 (לילך5) discuss 04:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph