Talk:Female education

message: Could someone please mention in the today section that women surpassing men in education is to do with feminisation of schools (in the western world) and a little bias (for example medical schools in the UK admitting twice as many women as men) and then link to the apporpriate masculism/equal rights/education articles (there's enough proof in wikipedias articles but I'm sure you could find outside sources too) as proof? Because at the moment it sounds like it's saying women are just smarter/more capable than men which is A)Inaccurate and B)Against wikipedias policies (neutrality and gender equality)
I'd do it but I'm not really good at this editing thing yet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.251.159 (talk) 08:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Today section]]

message: I notice that conversely there is no matching article for the opposite of this one. I realize that in general, men had primary access to education in the most recent cultures and as such, female education is more of a specific topic that has special attentions. Even so, an article like this might be useful in describing how this bias existed, and a reverse representation of the hows and whys of how male-only education occured and the viewpoints that caused it to originate and remain that way. It's also possible that in some small or very old cultures that perhaps there were women-only educations systems (even if only in specific fields thought suited for women only) and as such, male education would be the minority and controversy and deserve discussing? Tyciol 19:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's exactly what I was going to comment about. For instance, so called "pink collar" jobs are now becoming more male-friendly. I hate to generalize here, but it seems that most feminists think that complementary masculism and related topics are unnecessary. Personally I feel that for equality to exist, both sides must recieve attention. Women might argue that men have historically been the dominant sex, and therefore do not need an equal and opposite movement to uphold their rights and promote their issues, but I would disagree. Fuzzform 04:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having a browse through my library I can't actually find much if anything on this topic. There is, however, a vast amount of books on female education. I guess this is one of those cases where people seem to treat males as 'normal' and females as some sort of exception to that norm. Richard001 (talk) 21:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Male education]]?

message: Whats the meaning of Shulamith Shahar writers ?   A M M A R  01:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shulamith Shahar  

message: The claim in the article that "convent education" for girls started in the 17th Century is incorrect. Girls were being educated in convents by nuns in medieval times at least as early as 1275, and probably centuries earlier. My reference is "Medieval English nunneries, c. 1275 to 1535" by Eileen Power  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.70.6.175 (talk) 08:41, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reference. The article isn't necessarily wrong in implying that there was a model of convent education that spread, but clearly there should be more background (earlier evidence), and more specifics of the religious orders involved and what exactly the "model" was. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:47, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convent Education  

message: The second two sections in "European history" have no inline citations. Given the substantial amount of data being conjectured, references need to be added. Juranas (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing Inline Citations

message: The section on women's education on Islam is just mystifying. There is no mention of any stream of thought in Islam that disapproved of female education apart from a teensy mention of current practice in Saudi Arabia. This encyclopedia should probably try to be more honest rather than act as a propaganda platform. 
 ( Book: Half the Sky: Mukhtar Mai's School, Pg 70. Authors: Nicholas D. Kristof & Sheryl WuDunn)
 "Mukhtar spoke passionately of her belief in the redemptive quality of education, in her hope that men and women in the villages could live together in harmony if only they had an education. The best way to overcome the attitudes that led her to her rape, was to spread education." As Mukhtar makes this statement on encouraging education and making it a necessity, it can lead to various beneficial factors which allows more people, while targeting men to attain knowledge on women's rights and equality they deserve. Education can not only change the minds of a few, it can eradicate poverty as well, boosting economy as more people have knowledge. After many struggles, Mukhtar was recognized and honored by the White House for her struggle and tough journey. "Mukhtaran proves that one woman really can change the world," says Laura Bush. 
 (Book: Half the Sky: The Afghan Insurgent, Pg 164. Authors: Nicholas D. Kristof & Sheryl WuDunn)
 "Education is the key issue for overcoming poverty, for overcoming war..If people are educated then women will not be abused or tortured. They will also stand up and say 'My child should not be married so young'." Education can teach respect and make one think more moderately in terms of religion as well. They will learn to value life and the importance women play in a household. Disrespecting them is a huge crime, and the only solution to its end is to first empower these women and encourage them to step up and take action. Next, providing knowledge and allowing them to go to schools can help change many things. Most importantly, it will change the status of a woman in a such a poor society, particularly a muslim woman who is not often given the change to speak up or be independent. Men should also be given more knowledge on the success and positive changes women can bring into a household, as well as the economy. 
Please help by viewing the entry for this article shown at the page, and check the edits to ensure that any claims are valid, and that any references do in fact verify what is claimed. Noodleki (talk) 20:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Islam

message: The title should be changed to Women's Education (or alternatively, Gender Differences in Education), to be consistent with current scholarship that recognizes gender as more than just innate biological differences.  That would also permit discussion of issues relating to the education of men and boys, and differences in treatment, experiences, and policies. DStrassmann (talk) 02:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: DStrassmann and Chaleur, I don't see a problem with the title, given that it covers girls and women, not just women, and that the title is adhering to some of the WP:Reliable sources in the article; see this link to the sources. Furthermore, per WP:Precise, this article should not be titled Gender differences in education, considering that it is primarily about girls and women. The content of the article would need to be drastically changed before such a title would fit. And black education redirects to a section of the African American article because no one has created that article yet. But various sources have no problem with the terminology black education, and black education can refer to more than just African American people, but also to black people from different parts of the word. As for using female as a noun, that is debated, despite growing political views that it's "reductionist and incorrect." Anyway, if either of you really want this article title moved, WP:Requested moves is the way to go. This is clearly a "Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves" aspect. Flyer22 (talk) 08:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Inappropriate title

message: While the article has a lot of information on Europe and India's educational history, it appears to be missing some citations for important claims.  A large portion of India's article doesn't have any citations.  I believe it would also be beneficial to have more information on Africa's educational history as well as having information on South and Latin America.  China's history is addressed but the other Asian countries are not mentioned in this article, which could help make it well rounded in the information provided.  I really appreciate the information on Islamic educational history.  This article is very focused on certain aspects of female education and I believe by broadening the information for other countries and religious groups, it could become a very informative article.Alleighc2 (talk) 22:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broaden Horizons 

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message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I am planning on expanding the section of the African subheading. Here is the basic outline I am proposing:
# Formal Education
     a.) History
           i.) Empires
           ii.) Colonial
           iii.) Post-Colonial
# Gender Disparities
# Causes
# Education in the Home
# Effects of Education
Let me know if you have any feedback. I will continue to update changes to my plan as it develops. 
Jonathanpoilpre (talk) 18:02, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Expanding African Subheading]]

message: I’m really impressed by the clear organizational structure of the article and how, at the moment, more geographic regions are represented than typical of Wikipedia articles. There’s a lot more on non-Western areas than generally seen but there’s still room for improvement, as the addition of Central and South America and the rest of Asia would help the article be much more comprehensive. 
Looking specifically at the Africa section, I think, if possible, it would be great if there could be some distinction between different parts of Africa. As it now stands, Africa is largely grouped, seemingly as a homogeneous region, but there are dramatic variations in culture and thus the typical education received between North Africa, West Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa. As near as I can surmise, most of the current information pertains to the sub-Saharan region but never explicitly states that. Jmekoenig (talk) 11:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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message: It is filled with subjective voice and grammar mistakes along with claims not backed up with sources.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.73.108.55 (talk) 20:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Korea Section Needs Major Rewrite 

message: I changed the name of the "history" section to "different parts of the world". Not sure if this is the correct change but I believe it shouldn't be called History because it talks about events in the present day.
Schimerine (talk) 20:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I felt the lead was too long so I took the second paragraph and created a feminist movement topic. I took the two other paragraphs and put them under women empowerment and international development.Schimerine (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  LEAD 

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message: I suggest adding these sections to the section "issues"
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=== Physical Punishment in Educational Institutions ===
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Corporal or physical punishment is defined as “any punishment in which physical force is used and intended to cause some degree of pain or discomfort, however light”.Committee on the Rights of the Child. 2007. General Comment No. 8 (2006) on the right of the child to protection from corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading forms of punishment. UN doc CRC/C/GC/8. School-related gender-based violence (SRGBV) are “acts or threats of sexual, physical or psychological violence occurring in and around schools, perpetrated as a result of gender norms and stereotypes, and enforced by unequal power dynamics”.UNESCO. 2015b. Policy Paper 17, School-related gender-based violence is preventing the achievement of quality education for all. All violence in educational institutions and learning environments has a negative impact on children, including corporal punishment and gender-based violence. They violate their fundamental human rights and can “compromise their well-being, their physical and emotional health, as well as harming their cognitive and emotional development”. For example, it may lead to severe health and psychological harm, pregnancy, sexually transmitted infections, loss of interest in school, disrupted studies, early school leaving or low achievement.UNESO 2022: Protect her rights, strengthen your laws. Her Atlas: status report on girls’ and women’s right to education, Paris.
12% of all countries enshrine protection from corporal punishment and from all forms of gender-based violence within educational institution, 32% do not provide legal protection of any form of violence in educational institutions.UNESCO. 2020a. Global Education Monitoring Report – Gender Report: A new generation: 25 years of efforts for gender equality in education. Paris, UNESCO
While all learners can be targets of violence, girls and young women are disproportionately the victims of certain types of violence, such as verbal and sexual harassment and abuse and violence by classmates and teachers, while boys are more likely to be targets of physical violence.UNESCO. 2020a. Global Education Monitoring Report – Gender Report: A new generation: 25 years of efforts for gender equality in education. Paris, UNESCO This phenomenon also extends to the digital environment where discrimination persists and can be amplified, leading to girls and young women being more likely to be targeted by online sexual violence.Her Atlas, 2019. This risk has intensified during the pandemic, as children and youth have seen their online time increase exponentially because of lockdown and school closures. All available data show an increase in the scale of both cyberbullying and online child sexual exploitation by adults during the COVID-19 pandemic.UNESCO. 2021d. International Day against violence and bullying at school: What you need to know about online violence including cyberbullying. [Accessed on the 11/01/2022]. Similarly, both girls and boys can experience corporal punishment. The gender dimensions of corporal punishment lie in the type of punishment and the behaviours that are sanctioned.Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children. 2013. Ending violent punishment of girls: A key element in the global challenge to all violence against women and girls. When used against girls, corporal punishment aims to control and regulate their behavior, including social and sexual ones, and encourage deference, hence it reinforces traditional gender roles and is closely linked to domestic violence against women.Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children. 2013. Ending violent punishment of girls: A key element in the global challenge to all violence against women and girls.
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=== Education during Pregnancy and Parenting ===
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Pregnancy and motherhood have profound impacts on girls’ and young women’s education. Worldwide, the adolescent birth rate has fallen from 56.4 births per 1000 adolescents aged 15–19 years in 2000, to 41.2 per 1000 in 2020, yet it still represents a significant number of girls giving birth as children.World Health Organization. 2021. World Health Statistics 2021: Monitoring health for the SDGs. Switzerland, WHO.
Restrictive legislation sometimes bans pregnant or parenting girls from attending school or sitting an exam, limiting them to attend adult or evening classes, or separating them from their peers and isolating them for fear that they would ‘influence’ other students. They also often “lack access to bridging programmes, which allow girls to resume their missed education, even though international law requires States to provide fundamental education for those who have left school prematurely”.UNESCO and Right to education initiative. 2019. Right to education handbook. Revised. Paris, UNESCO. When girls are unable to finish their education because of pregnancy, they face practical barriers, including forced exclusion from school, social norms confining girls to the home and stigma.Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women. 2017. General recommendation No. 36 (2017) on the right of girls and women to education. UN. doc CEDAW/C/GC/36.
Beyond the requirement of equal treatment, some States, such as the Republic of Korea, provide additional support to pregnant and parenting girls, notably by authorizing leaves of absence from school due to pregnancy or rearing children, or by providing financial support for their educational expenses.See the Higher Education Act of 2010 amended in 2018 & the Single-Parent Family Support Act of 2008, amended in 2018.  These measures encourage pregnant girls to pursue their education and therefore contribute to the fulfillment of their fundamental right to education.
27% of all countries explicitly protect the right to education of pregnant and parenting girls in their legislation, 8% restrict the right to education of pregnant and parenting girls. Globally 1 million girls under 15 give birth each year.
 
Lisa Rechelle (talk) 12:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
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Pregnancy and motherhood have profound impacts on girls’ and young women’s education. Worldwide, the adolescent birth rate has fallen from 56.4 births per 1000 adolescents aged 15–19 years in 2000, to 41.2 per 1000 in 2020, yet it still represents a significant number of girls giving birth as children.World Health Organization. 2021. World Health Statistics 2021: Monitoring health for the SDGs. Switzerland, WHO.
Restrictive legislation sometimes bans pregnant or parenting girls from attending school or sitting an exam, limiting them to attend adult or evening classes, or separating them from their peers and isolating them for fear that they would ‘influence’ other students. They also often “lack access to bridging programmes, which allow girls to resume their missed education, even though international law requires States to provide fundamental education for those who have left school prematurely”.UNESCO and Right to education initiative. 2019. Right to education handbook. Revised. Paris, UNESCO. When girls are unable to finish their education because of pregnancy, they face practical barriers, including forced exclusion from school, social norms confining girls to the home and stigma.Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women. 2017. General recommendation No. 36 (2017) on the right of girls and women to education. UN. doc CEDAW/C/GC/36.
Beyond the requirement of equal treatment, some States, such as the Republic of Korea, provide additional support to pregnant and parenting girls, notably by authorizing leaves of absence from school due to pregnancy or rearing children, or by providing financial support for their educational expenses.See the Higher Education Act of 2010 amended in 2018 & the Single-Parent Family Support Act of 2008, amended in 2018.  These measures encourage pregnant girls to pursue their education and therefore contribute to the fulfillment of their fundamental right to education.
27% of all countries explicitly protect the right to education of pregnant and parenting girls in their legislation, 8% restrict the right to education of pregnant and parenting girls. Globally 1 million girls under 15 give birth each year.
 
Lisa Rechelle (talk) 12:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education during Pregnancy and Parenting 

message: — Assignment last updated by Aksgpp3131 (talk) 07:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Global Poverty and Practice

message: I want to add to the Women’s Empowerment section by introducing the Longwe Framework, a tool kit to achieve women’s empowerment and can be implemented in the education system to ensure that girls feel supported and in control of their futures. Gender equity goes further than access to school and it is important to have efforts implemented in schools that boost girls’ confidence to make them feel they have the capability to equally participate in society.  Haydenrandolph (talk) 00:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding to Women's Empowerment section