Talk:Yamit

message: "Some Israelis settled in an unpopulated location and built a new town. They had good relations with the Bedouin residents of the Sinai."
This is a flat out lie - or atleast, I have contradictory evidence.
In 'The Fateful Triangle', Noam Chomsky quotes from 'Between Ballots and Bullets' by Yoram Peri (which I do not have a copy of so I cannot verify right now):
'After initial expropriations in 1969, military forces commanded by General Ariel Sharon, in January 1972, "drove off some ten thousand farms and bedouin, bulldozed or dynamited their houses, pulled down their tents, destroyed their crops and filled in their wells," to prepare the ground for the establishment of six kibbutzim, nine villages and the city of Yamit.'
(inner quotes are from Yoram Peri) -195.80.21.42 13:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So your contradictory evidence is a quote of a quote you do not have access to.  Good one.  (I am ignoring the fact that Chomsky is a less than objective source).MG196 08:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Bully for you. None of this is eligible for the article, and you personally are forbidden to edit it on the grounds of conflict of interest. Zerotalk 03:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

text: ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: Recently a user has changed several instances of the word "evacuated" to "evicted" I was patrolling for vandalism when I found this, and I am not familiar with the subject enough to know if this is a legitimate edit. Drewerd (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Vandalism

message: I am not sure if any of the people who have contributed to this article were ever actually in Yamit. I was. I lived there for the entire time the town was in existence. We did get along with the local Bedouin quite well. As to the bulldozing of homes or businesses, Bedouins, by definition, had none. When construction on Yamit began, they did then create their own settlement in the dikliot (date palm oasis) that existed naturally on the beach between Yamit and the Mediterranean Sea in order to work at the many jobs that were suddenly available. For most of them, this was the first job they had ever had. My husband and I hired many of them for our various business enterprises that included a Kosher butcher shop (the only one in the Sinai), a Kosher restaurant poolside in the Community Center (it was called the Country Club by residents) and an irrigation engineering company.
The homes in Yamit were some of the best in Israel. They were planned so that everyone had a large patio (mirpeset) or a garden (gan) of their own. The homes were designed around a city center with locally owned retail outlets, banking, restaurants, library, auditorium, health clinic, and synagogue (Bet Knesset). It was built in a curve with a lovely tiered fountain in the front. It was the location of all the community's festivals and celebrations. There was only one perimeter road. This enabled the residential area to be auto free. Footpaths led to each cluster of houses that surrounded a small park/playground for the children who could be left to play for hours, as they frequently did. Visitors from other parts of Israel would say to us "You don't live in Israel, you live in Gan Eden." (Garden of Eden). Yes, in many ways we did. We were Israel's first line of defense against any invasion from the South or West but it was all worth it even though it meant that every able bodied adult had to take their turn at guard duty and of course as Israelis we all served in the reserves.
In order to move to Yamit there were certain fundamental requirements: 1. At least one adult member of the family had to have as a minimum Bachelor's Degree. 2. Proof of employment was required by the Ministry of Housing (Misrad HaShikun) 3. The family had to purchase their home. Rentals were not allowed. Mortgages were made available, payments made annually by post dated check for one-month increments. 4. All rights to any type of social welfare payments had to be relinquished, including unemployment benefits. 5. All taxes had to be maintained in a current status.
Leaving Yamit was one of the saddest days of my life. It was a great place to live, work and raise children.
As with anything, we must have published sources to back up claims, etc. Its not personal, it is just that someone could easily say things that are not true and wikipedia being a free encyclopedia it may become opinions not facts, that said, Internationally annexation of territory or occupation and building settlements is illegal according to international law, the article consequently points out that once the Egyptian territory was evacuated or evicted the settlement could not be kept as a part of Israel, as it was within Egypt's recognized borders, and the settlement was constructed and populated by the occupying nation, IT IS IN NO WAY meant to be disrespectful, it is just the majority of the world and scholars consider this to be the case and not a lot of support exists to say it should have been handed over to Israel, we keep it neutral and just about the facts, thats all we can do SandeepSinghToor (talk) 00:56, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Real Halutzim 

message: I removed tragedy, because radicals commiting suicide is not a tragedy.--90.135.251.219 (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: tragedy

message: I was an Engineer who designed & built fortifications in the Rav Meir David Kahane's, ZT"L, Bunker Kiddush HaShem, Bunker #41, "Suicide Bunker" in Yamit from January 1982 to the expulsion on April 23, 1982.
Rav Kahane, ZT"L, went to the States in about March 1982. Rabbi Yehuda Richter was appointed as Commander.
Rav Kahane, ZT'L, came back in mid-April at the request of PM Menachem Begin.
Rav Kahane, ZT'L, ordered talks of suicide stopped.
Rav Kahane, ZT'L, never asked us to surrender, walk away or stop resistance.
Rav Kahane, ZT"L, resisted alongside, until seized.
Bunker #41 resisted bravely. 
Israeli army had to deploy special forces to get us out. There were about 20 people inside the bunker, including Rav Kahane, ZT'L and Rav/Dr.Baruch Goldstein, ZT'L.
Army had to smash concrete wall with bulldozer & was able to pull small armor doors using bulldozers & chains. Large armored door stood intact as bulldozer chains broke in attempt.
Bunker Kiddush HaShem resisted kapos bravely. Nobody "walked away". Most people are still alive and are eyewitnesses.
Book is written & published about the Bunker "Funny adventures of a Jew-boy in US jails".
Picture of me being violently expelled from The Bunker #41 published on the front page of the International Tribune & NY Times Int.Edition about April 24 1982.
: Bully for you. None of this is eligible for the article, and you personally are forbidden to edit it on the grounds of conflict of interest. Zerotalk 03:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOT TRUE:  "...After the personal intervention of Kahane, they agreed to leave..." 

message: Please change "18 square miles" to "" Arado Ar 196 (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 August 2021