Talk:Atonement (2007 film)

message: The information is incorrect in many ways. Briony has a clear crush (admittedly) on Robbie and doesn’t understand the Atonement she will face for her fictitious accusations.
There are many nuances here in which she as a young woman doesn’t understand that her accusations will kill Robbie. She tries to truly make up for them during the war by becoming a nurse. She delivered the letter on purpose to be viscous because she was jealous.
It’s a great movie that you may need to see more than once to comprehend.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6C1:100:5A80:A46A:171A:B7D:73D4 (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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message: The fact itself (initial version, since condensed: ) was added back in April 2017 and I originally thought it'd be fine reporting this, especially as I believed our source verified our claim.
However.
The source provided () is a poor choice. Finally having hunted down the actual text, it does NOT talk about the date in the context of it being a historical inaccuracy. It simply acts to verify the actual historical date. We need (and I assumed "Trauma and Romance..." was such a source) a source specifically reporting this to be a historical inaccuracy. The source simply does not support our claim that this detail "has been reported" as a historical accuracy. With a good helping of good faith, the source can be misinterpreted as saying such since it does discuss Briony as an unreliable narrator; how unclear it is that Cecilia actually died in the bombing... but about the actual date "Trauma and Romance..." simply reports the facts:  It never even mentions how Briony gives the 15th as the date, much less makes a deal out of the discrepancy. If anything this source would suggest this historical inaccuracy is NOT notable at all, especially in comparison to the in-universe unreliability of the narrator (
The movie does not depict the events of the bombing on the wrong date. It merely has a narrator give the wrong date.  Is this really notable? 
Well, that's where a new source comes in. I'm hesitantly going to let the paragraph remain but replace the source with a fact tag. If no source that verifies our claim this historical accuracy HAS been reported or discussed, feel free to remove the entire thing as not notable after all. Do note: a source should not merely confirm the actual historical date. It needs to specifically discuss the discrepancy in the context of the book and verify our claim CapnZapp (talk) 16:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, this does look increasingly weak and trivial, and if we don't have a secondary source that notes it as a discrepancy, it should probably be cut. As a matter of interest, can anyone tell us exactly what Briony says in the film? In the novel, the bombing is misdated to September (which is a slightly more significant slip, but obviously not appropriate for mention in this article):  [this section in Briony's voice]. GrindtXX (talk) 00:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  A possibly on-topic comment: could I ask you to not refer to the mention in the passive voice?  can be construed as a bigger error than "Briony misdates the bombing to September." Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balham historical inaccuracy