Talk:Ender's Game (novel series)

message: :The Shadow series gives vauge mention of a spectacular end to the United Nations.
This is likely true, but I don't want ppl to think we are trying to imply a theme of hypothtical or fictional end to an evil UN. I'm going to look it up and reword this tonight. --Shadow Puppet 14:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: UN

message: Hi. I went to fix a one-letter typo in the article and ended up doing a whole bunch of changes, mostly to do with putting book titles in italics and short story titles in "double quotes", per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (italics). There are still a few problems with the grammar. (I haven't read any of these books since Xenocide, so I can't comment on the content of the article.) Feel free to boldly edit my changes! —Chris Chittleborough 18:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes made 25-Mar-2006 

message: There seems to be a tendency to generate new pages that discuss bits and pieces of the fictional creation related to this series.  Usually, it is better if those pieces are merged into the main article.  I have suggested one such example for merging.  Rather than list them all, it makes more sense to just use the "What links here" as they all reference this page.  NThurston 20:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the following examples for the rebuttal to this argument: :Category:Star Wars, :Category:Star Trek, :Category:The West Wing (TV series), :Category:The Simpsons, etc etc etc. — Scm83x hook 'em 20:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. I'd more or less agree -- it would seem preferable in many cases to have a series of redirects, if the majority of articles just end up being brief stubs. But in the particular case of the species categorization, I feel that particular idea might be notable enough to warrant its own article. The way I see it, it's not so much an issue of having too many articles, but more about whether those articles are fleshed out, could potentially be fleshed out, or are worthy ideas in their own light. Luna Santin 18:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplicity of articles 

message: This is my first time to comment on Wikipedia, I hope I don't break any conventions.  I don't want to jump in and start editing things, so I figured I'd put this as a question.  The article mentions the movie monsters 'Aliens' and 'Predators' as varelse, impossible to communicate with or peacefully coexist with.  Should Predators be included in this?  At the end of Predator 2, the Predator chief gives Danny Glover's character an old pistol after he kills a Predator, and then leaves him in peace, and in Alien vs. Predator one of the Predators cooperates with the human woman against the Aliens. BaikinMan 03:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heey. I'm pretty new, too. You bring up a good point. Reading that, I think it mentions Predators, but only specifically calls the Aliens varelse. Which seems right. I'll admit I'm not too familiar with the AvP (etc) series, but it seems the Aliens would fit far more readily into the category. The Predators may usually fight humans, but if a situation did arise where they had a mutual interest, I have little doubt that their ability to communicate with each other would prove useful. Maybe. That said, I'm not entirely comfortable with the mention... feels like it's just a plug, or worse, an implication that the Ender series needs to lean on AvP for legitimacy. Luna Santin 18:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Hm, good point, just remove confusing phrase altogether. =3 I rewrote the sentence, just since it felt a bit awkward, syntax-wise. And also added a link to Xenomorphs, now that I did a little more reading up on this. Luna Santin 22:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predators as Varelse 

message: I just added a timeline graph. Any comments? MarkRofler 10:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome graph, but now it needs "A War of Gifts" ... I haven't read it yet, so I can't really say where it fits in.128.187.0.164 17:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: what happens after he passes the end of the world? who is Enders speaker for the dead? is it ever explained to the people how he was tricked into xenocide and that he wasn't a bad person?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.213.212 (talk) 02:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  just finished reading 

message: I would like to point out that there is now a movie in pre production based on Enders game and shadow to be directed by Wolfgang Petersen  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.4.89 (talk) 03:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The movie 

message: Will the original author/someone please fix the grocer's apostrophe in the title of "Shadows in Flight" on the flow chart? It currently reads "Shadow's in Flight," which is both erroneous and really unprofessional. XreDuex (talk) 18:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in series flowchart 

message: I noticed the flowchart is missing. When you click on it, it says something about needing to replace the jpg with a vector graphic. However, right now, there simply is nothing on the page. Can anyone restore this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.160.119.251 (talk) 21:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flowchart is Missing 

message: When I first read Ender's Game about three years ago, it was part of a volume that contained Ender's Game (novella & novel), Speaker for the Dead, and the short stories from First Meetings (The Polish Boy, Teacher's Pest, and The Investmemt Counsellor) -- all in one illustrated paperback collector's volume.
I hadn't heard of the book before, I just saw it at some supermarket (I remember it being on sale, for something like $4) and got it on a whim. I don't have it anymore, unfortunately, and now it's driving me insane as I can't seem to find it again.
Maybe my memory is deceiving me and I really bought three separate books, but that seems pretty unlikely -- I know I got it at that supermarket, and I wouldn't have bought three.
This is really bugging me now. Does anybody know which edition I'm talking about? (Sorry for abusing the talk page, but it's semi-relevant to the article.) 87.78.3.205 (talk) 01:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Single volume combining EG, SftD & short stories? 

message: Currently, the Bean quartet is referred to as the "Shadow series" in several places, such as in the Orson Scott Card navigational template. However, the section heading in this article is "Shadow saga", which leads to lots of broken section links. This needs to be standardized, but in Googling I couldn't find any evidence as to which term is preferable. Does anyone know of evidence for either of these names? Princess Lirin (talk) 01:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Shadow saga" / "Shadow series" 

message: I am not knowledgeable about adding material to Wikipedia, and trying to navigate the rules has proven to be akin to getting a college degree. I'm therefore restricting contributions to the non-article bits.
Though the idea of an Ender series chronology seems a necessary and good one - excuse bluntness - that Ender chronology "flowchart" thing is awful.  Even though it's relatively large on the article page, it appears as a bunch of blurry lines conveying nothing and as such, wastes space.  Even at 470x600 resolution on the image page it's decidedly fuzzy where the previous version was not.
At full resolution it's monochrome, spidery, aliased appearance is off putting.  More importantly, on close observation the meaning is confused by the structure.  It's unclear if it's supposed to depict relationships of publishing dates, or story chronology, or both.  If someone like myself, conversant with the "Enderverse" finds it difficult to comprehend, it must be still more confusing to the uninitiated seeking information.
I already happen to be working on a straight forward but loose timeline for all the stories for use elsewhere. I would like to tighten it up, but as I've read only one short story (A War of Gifts) and my knowledge of the novels, though I've read all published so far, is not finely grained enough to know precisely when each takes place relevant to the others, I'm currently unable to do so.
I'm searching for the relevant information with only limited success and not enough time to delve too deeply. Were I provided the information, or a source thereof, I could complete the graphic and make it available here as a rights-free SVG.
Deinonychus rex (talk) 09:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flowchart? 

message: I remember seeing on the bookshelves a novel called "Peter", about a year or so after "Children of the Mind" was published and long predating the "Shadow" series. It is a very clear memory. I did not buy it at the time, however (I was poor!), and I have rued it ever since -- for it seems to have vanished without trace. I have tried several conventional searches, but you can imagine what happens when I try to search for any combination of Ender Scott Card + novel + Peter. I do know that Card is prone to rewriting old works -- the new version of "Ender's Game" is rather different in places from the original novel version. (I own both.) But where would one look for a vanished novel? - Tenebris  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.157.107 (talk) 02:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing novel?

message: When was the term 'Formics' introduced to the series?  I read Ender's Game for the first time a few months ago, and just finished Speaker for the Dead, and I don't remember the term being in either book.  My memory is far from flawless, however, but this seems like the sort of thing I'd remember:  I don't like the term 'bugger' (where I grew up it was slang for 'sodomy'). Phlegat (talk) 16:42, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was introduced in Ender's Shadow.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.87.147.188 (talk) 01:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formic terminology 

message: In the chronological listings of works in the Ender saga, there is a listing for one "A Point in Time".  Thus far, I have seen no evidence that such a work exists and, indeed, it is not in the list of works by publication date.  Obviously, "A Point in Time" is a rather tough phrase to Google (though better than Peter as a contributor above mentions, another book I would be curious to see if anyone has further info on such a book), but I am inclined to believe that no such work exists due to the simple fact that targeted searches for "orson scott card"+"a point in time"+"ender" among others yield no truly promising results (just one librarything entry claiming a copy).  Any more info if such work even exists?  Irc.limerick (talk) 07:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Point in Time 

message: Should the Formic Wars books be separted from or left in the Ender's saga? - Dracuns (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Formic Wars series 

message: Why does a search for Anton's Key redirect to this page, when this article makes no direct mention of it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.219.116.120 (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Because there's no better place for it to redirect to. Ollieinc (talk) 03:59, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Anton's Key should redirect to Bean (Ender's Game) since it's a concept introduced in the Shadow series and pertains mainly to his character. -AngusWOOF (talk) 13:46, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, it could redirect to Anton himself over at List of Ender's Game characters#Others where it can be bolded. -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anton's Key 

message: I could be very much mistaken, but according to both Amazon and the Barnes N' Noble websites, Earth Afire doesn't release until April 29th, 2014, not June 4th, 2013. This is the publication date that I have seen on both Wiki articles that I have read concerning this book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Afire and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender's_Game_(series)) and so I was very confused when I went to go looking for where I can purchase it and discovered that it is only available for pre-order on both Amazon and Barnes N' Noble right now. Can someone please fix this so that it is less confusing and less misleading?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.243.211.122 (talk) 02:12, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The June 4, 2013 date is for the Hardcover, and April 29, 2014 is for the Mass Market Paperback, so both are valid. -AngusWOOF (talk) 13:51, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth Afire 

message: How about the notion of trilogies in the Enderverse? 
# the three first sequels (Speaker of the Dead, Xenocide and Children of the Mind) are commonly regarded as a trilogy (it's mentioned in the section Ender Series as Speaker Trilogy. 
# both the Formic Wars Series are regarded as prequel-trilogies (cfr. tweet of OSC : The Second Formic Wars trilogy titles released: The Swarm; The Hive; The Queens.
# however, the first three sequels to Ender's Shadow, are very rarely referenced as a trilogy. 
Which is, since there are two more shadow sequels written/planned, not that particular, although the Bean-series was once planned to be limited to four books. 
And both Shadows in Flight and the forthcoming Shadows Alive are somehow seperated from the three first sequels (Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadow Puppets and Shadow of the Giant).
In summary, I find it quite stunning that the Enderverse is not mentioned as having four Trilogies, both:
* Two Sequel Trilogies:
** The Speaker Trilogy
** The Shadow Trilogy
* Two Prequel Trilogies:
** First Formic Wars Trilogy
** Second Formic Wars Trilogy
Any thoughts whether it'is worthwile as an entry (in a more substantive form)? Clockworkske (talk) 22:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notion of Prequel Trilogies and Sequel Trilogies 

message: Book 20 will probably be Shadows of Fight.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:B010:1EB3:94C:D8C5:21A7:1369 (talk) 21:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Book 20 is Shadows of Fight

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