Talk:2C-E

message: 2C-E is a homolog of 2C-P and 2C-D, but I do not think that it is a homolog of 2C-B, 2C-T-7 or Mescaline. It is a possible analog of these, however. Correct me if I'm wrong. Ohnodoctor (talk) 22:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homolog? 

message: Not sure if it's an actual error... My vendor claims, his 2C-E has a melting point of 210.9°C and generally it's 208-211°C. Who's willing to do a melting point test on confirmed 2C-E HCl?
"Insufflating (ie administering the chemical nasally) requires a much lower dose, typically not exceeding 5mgs. Taking 10 mg orally is equivalent to snorting 5mg if you compare the two trips."
first of all, insufflating requires a dosage about 3 times lower. so 5 mg wouldnt be equivalent to 10 mg, its closer to 15mg according to erowid.
the dosage doesnt have to be 5 mg at max, its about 5-10 mg, which roughly matches the oral equivalent. its dangerous to tell people "insufflating requires half the oral dose". 2c-e is very potent if used insufflated and small changes in the dosage could produce a much stronger/softer effect. --92.227.30.53 (talk) 00:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  errors in text 

message: 3/30/2012
LD 1852 http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/display_ps.asp?LD=1852&snum=125  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.111.144 (talk) 05:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's untested in court so far as I know, but the burden of proof of "research use" may be placed on the defendant.  Presumably, any legitimate research would yield results and other evidence producable to a court.  Of course, this means you would be guilty until proven innocent (unconstitutional), but as I understand it this is not unheard of when prosecuting drug related offenses. 65.80.232.189 (talk) 09:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2C-E Getting Scheduled Soon?

message: I will try to address some of the concerns above. Yes, one can buy and sell it as long as it is not for human consumption. The reason many online vendors were shot down was because they were making it obvious that they were selling it for human consumption by providing deals and sample packs. For example, buy 2C-I in bulk and get one dose of DXM free. What professional lab selling chemicals for scientific research would do that? Many online vendors who were very strict about their guidelines (Not For Human Consumption) and sold in low quantities did not get busted but did close down voluntarily out of fear. One *could* buy a flask and begin manufacturing and selling this stuff in the US if they're careful, but it's unlikely that anyone is going to risk going to court over it due to heavy court expenses.
How do you prove that you did not intend to consume it? As long as they don't catch you putting it in your cereal, they have no proof and can't charge you. I've heard about people getting caught with possession, but nobody has ever gotten charged AFAIK.
2C-E Being Scheduled: The person who stated that on this website was some punk kid who got busted with it and with shrooms. No one ever got charged with the 2C-E in Utah as far as I know. It was a paranoid delusion of a teenager I was incarcerated with in the Utah County Jail with no factual basis whatsoever. Don't believe everything you read. ~MindHermit~
03/28/2007
The Wikipedia entry for 2C-E currently states that 2C-E is a Schedule I substance in the United States. This is INCORRECT. While 2C-E may be a confirmed analogue of DOM, that does not make it illegal. An analogue is only illegal if it is intended for human consumption. The Legality section of this article needs to be revised. (April 3, 2012)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morthian (talk • contribs) 00:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legality and proof of 'human consumption' claim 

message: It's 309KBytes as-is (plus non-trivial overhead in transmission) and IMO adds nothing to the article. Even if it did it has to be balanced against the fact that not everyone has broadband. Without wishing to offend it's contributor, I believe it does not add sufficient value and should be removed. Thoughts? 81.157.27.35 (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animated gif in article - not a good idea? 

message: I removed a claim from the law section that read as follows:
"If 2C-E is considered lawfully unfit for distributive necessities it would implicate major pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline for their production and distribution of the drug Tranylcypromine also commonly known as Parnate as another homologue of similar PEA's."
This is poorly written and, from what I can gather, false. 65.80.232.189 (talk) 09:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tranylcypromine 

message: I removed this sentence:
Based on the current body of evidence and a comparison with the long-term effects of its close chemical analogue, mescaline, it seems reasonable to assume that 2C-E is not likely to produce such effects.
I would consider this OR, since the long term effects of the drug are clearly (and stated as) unknown, so commenting on it "seems reasonable to assume" that it "is not likely" to do anything is pure speculation, and perhaps dangerously so.  Without a citation, it would appear obvious that the sentence doesn't belong.  Dennis Brown (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long term effects 

message: I think we are giving way too much coverage in the "Reported Death" section. Pretty much it is saying the boy may or may not have ingested 2C-E and it may or may not have caused his death. Although it is well sourced, it seems a little unnesecary to give up to the minute reports on this local tragedy. BurtAlert (talk) 22:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We should wait for toxicological results for cause of death, Wikipedia has a guideline specifically against reporting speculation. Grim23★ 12:37, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reported death section 

message: I am quite knowledgeable when it comes to the topic of research chemicals, but I have never heard of 2C-E being nicknamed "Europa". of course I assume that there are people calling it that way, but this is in no sense common. therefore, I suggest to just remove this remark on nicknames. --Diogenes2000 (talk) 04:22, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  nickname 

message: "The concurrent use of SSRIs generally has a palliative effect upon both the intensity and duration of the effects of 2C-E during their plateau stage."
I have no idea what that means. I looked up the definition of "palliative" and I still don't understand it. Taking SSRIs reduces the effects of 2C-E? Somebody please re-write this. Saberus (talk) 18:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palliative effect 

message: This article is in the category "Monoamine oxidase inhibitors." There is no mention of this in the text of the article. Can it be sourced?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SauLovesWiki (talk • contribs) 05:41, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAOI? 

message: See , about 29 homeopaths at a conference OD'd. Choor monster (talk) 11:51, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incident in Germany