Talk:Training effect

message: Are we calling this a named theory of Dr. Cooper's or is the claim that this is a well established scientific effect? If the former, the article should stay so, and the capitalized title "Training Effect" is fine. If the latter, then the title should be "Training effect" per the naming conventions. So far both external links and the article simply espouse Dr. Cooper's POV, which violates the WP:NPOV policy. In one of the links Dr Cooper claims this is well established science, and if so, if shouldn't be hard to find more rigorous sources that support the article. In any case the article makes a lot of claims with little support, so that needs some work. - Taxman Talk 21:26, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
Basically what I am concerned about is that this is an overly specific term for the general effects of exercise. The general effects of exercise are well established in the field of exercise physiology. Yes our exercise article is a bit short on them, but I'm not convinced this article is the place for it. - Taxman Talk 21:38, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
:I can see your point.  Yes, Dr. Cooper seems to be the only one using this term for this effect.
:The effect is quite real and pronounced, having been in it a dozen times myself.
:The effect probably should be merged into exercise or possibly aerobic exercise, but I didn't feel comfortable enough with the subject to do either.
:There is more on the effect in .
:I suggest we let this gell a couple of days before merging it.
:Simesa 00:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have written to the Cooper Aerobics Center in Dallas, and one of their staff has promised to send me information on this topic and a bio of Dr. Cooper. Simesa 18:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Cooper Center will send more info on the Training Effect and a bio of Dr. Cooper next week. Simesa 21:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As of this morning I have not received materials from the Cooper Center and have written them a note. Simesa 11:58, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: If we're in the business of adding cautionary notes, then one on the possibility of Exercise Hypertension and similar effects in us 'old codgers' might be helpful. Linuxlad 23:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're correct - I rephrased the "caution" into encyclopedic format.:However, I think you're also right about Exercise hypertension.  It appears to merit an article of its own!  I found it in  and  and posted a request for an article. Simesa 00:46, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Using that title I got hits under  and . With the first two references above, there may be enough for an article. Simesa 14:13, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Exercise Hypertension

message: I'm a little puzzled by what I'm meant to understand from mpmdt's addition, (saying something like it is now 'univerally accepted' that there is no medium term effect of exercise on metabolic rate etc.). I doubt that many things in life can be described as 'universally accepted' (especially the marginal effects of moderate exercise on metabolic rate) -. And to understand just _what_ of Dr Cooper's claims is being so confidently confuted I'd rather like a REFERENCE please.This contribution needs more carefully working into the article, prefereably after some debate, if it is not to confuse (at least me) Bob aka Linuxlad 13:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Training Effects Disputed??

message: I suggest a new article be created that is dedicated to Ken Cooper and that the material dealing with elevated post-exercise metabolic rate be merged with the article on endurance training. I believe that Cooper has gotten far too much credit in the Wiki articles dealing with exercise physiology. We have been measuring oxygen comsumption during exercise since the 1920's (see the work of AV Hill and his peers of the time) and many, many very influential and well-published scientists have since contributed to the discipline in the area of the effects of training. This article is unfocused, badly written, wrought with questionable interpretations of information taken from quite unacademic sources.--162.129.44.19 14:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: The article claims that Cooper coined the term "training effect" in the late 1960s. I've found a couple references from 1959 using the same term. An effect of training is a training effect; I'm sure he wasn't the first to "discover" this. Location (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious statements