Talk:PlayStation Portable/Archive 2

message: "Overheating concerns have also been cited as a possible reason for the cap, and gaming site Gamesradar has said this is the "most logical reason for the processor capping.""
Gamesradar is not a credible source, and we have been able to run the PSP at 333 mhz on official UMD games with no overheating. Please remove the overheating reference once this article is unprotected. And yes, we all know it's Slithy from gamefaqs who put that reference there
:Anecdotal evidence from an anonymous editor is hardly credible, either.  Especially since overheating problems wouldn't necessarily manifest themselves simply by decreasing the IC's global clock period.  Regardless, you're right that the information isn't credible, so I'll remove it. -- uberpenguin 03:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter how long it has been there.  It's speculation so it never really had any business there in the first place.  Clock rate "caps" are always artificially imposed to prevent an IC from being used outside spec; if Sony decided that their CPU spec should be at X Hz rather than Y Hz, that's a design choice.  Speculation on their reasons for a design choice is trivial, not noteworthy, and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. -- uberpenguin 04:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

text: If nobody has any credible source for the info, I would support its removal. -- uberpenguin 05:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I say remove all speculative theories period.  The text should be left at "During the GDC, Sony revealed that it has currently capped the PSP's CPU clock at 222 MHz." Or possibly "During the GDC, Sony revealed that it has currently capped the PSP's CPU clock at 222 MHz.  Its reasons for doing so are unknown, but are the subject of some speculation." -- uberpenguin 14:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Gotta agree with Uberpenguin on this. Wiki is for the facts. Daniel Davis 18:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: False information in the CPU section

message: Please don't add this image to the article. It's a PR image owned by Sony (and is, as such, not a free image), but that's the least of its problems.
This is an obviously photoshopped image, with the screenshot superimposed over a photo of a PSP. Additionally, this is an airbrushed PR "screenshot," which doesn't accurately represent how the game actually looks. 
Please don't use this image. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  This section is a lie. 

message: Sony calls it PSP, not PlayStation Portable.—thegreentrilby 23:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It could go either way. Doesn't matter. On PSP Firmware 2.x+, it displays the words "Playstation Portable" on the splash screen. --J. Nguyen 17:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Since the discovery that the name 'PSP' is shared by a a neurological disorder ('Progressive Supranuclear Palsy') Sony have been in a state of indecision about the branding strategy for the PSP. Before this discovery, 'PSP' was the accepted way to refer to the console, now it's not so clear. --Dazzla 23:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The name

message: Hey i have heard lots of talk about people going on the internet on the psp and surfing the net. How do you do that?Any help Madin10 23:18, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be more clear, the web browser was first added in firmware v2.0. This information can be found in the article. --Kamasutra 08:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hey

message: Please note - despite Sony's announcements that movies will be region-encoded, I have heard reports (and have verified myself with the promo copy of Spiderman) that some supposedly region-encoded movies will play on units from other regions. --Dazzla 22:04, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Region Encoding

message: User:Triforce of Power - you edited my contribution to 'correct' the spelling of 'licence' - Wikipedia policy states that differences between US and UK spelling are acceptable as long as consistency within articles is maintained. As this is the first occurence of the word, 'licence' is perfectly acceptable.
Also, you capitalised the initial of the first word within the parentheses after 'WMA' ('requires'). This is incorrect. Please do not vandalise my contributions. --Dazzla 23:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow. That couldn't have been handled on the user's talk page or anything. 24.62.27.66 21:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unnecessary edits

message: What about Eurpoe?
Please contact me if you have info or write on page.Wikiwo123 05:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales and Compitition 

message: :The U.S PSP Commercials are interesting, perhaps they deserve a mention. 151.199.43.120 02:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the borderline racism and stereotyping and the discussion as if it's the only handheld console in existence? Yes, I think it does deserve mentioning. Hydragon 05:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercials

message: I'm a Sony fan and i'm very angry 'cuz many people edits the total worldwide sales without any test, many say that the PSP and the DS has both the same sales, but that isn't true, this year Sony presented their sales record, and in the 2005 the PSP sold 6.22 millions of units worldwide, in the 2004 around 510.000 units, so add both and the total sales are less than 7 millions, in January the PSP sold in Japan 259.371 and the sales in USA and Europe still are unknown, so these give us around 7 millions of units...
:If you can show some sources definatly make the changes, and I'll help make sure they stick. I don't think sony has ever discussed sold units, only shipped. Seraphim 06:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Indeed, Seraphim. Being an angry man is one thing, being an angry man with a stack of evidence is entirely another. Daniel Davis 06:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sony sold over >4M PSPs in NA (NPD tracked independantly), >2.5M in JPN (media create tracked independantly), >2M in EU (independantly tracked via chart-track), and an unknown number in other regions (SK+AUS+NZ almost certainly is >500k). Whats the point in lying about videogame sales? And don't bother accusing people of being "Sony's fans" because it just makes you look ignorant ElWarri 04:15, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Sony's fans, let's be honest with the sales... 

message: The latest thing I could find was an article where Sony's head guy at CES 2006 stated that 10 Million PSPs had been shipped. [] Now I know SOMEONE out there is going to holler about "shipped isn't sold", but, as far as I know, retailers haven't been howling about low sales to Sony, there aren't massive piles of surplus inventory in backrooms and there hasn't been any news about a slump. This would lead to the conclusion that the shipments are selling, lending the "shipped isn't sold" argument little credence. If Sony started dumping PSPs in a landfill for tax writeoffs, then we could use that argument, but at the moment sales are still brisk. It's been a while since CES 2006, so one would assume that the actual sale tally of PSPs is something above 10 million. I don't think it's as high as 14, certainly, but I don't think it's as low as 7 million. Daniel Davis 06:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  After a bit of checking 

message: The current contents of the section has no references, yet makes alot of claims that should be cited.  It should also be pointed out that the section barely discusses the games on the PSP it is mainly a feature overview, i'm not sure how to address that so comments are welcome.
Here's a list of claims that need to be cited:
:The PSP is geared for gaming rather than multimedia
:The UMD disks are small enough to fit comfortably in a pocket, and superficially similar to Sony's earlier product, the MiniDisc, but for the lack of a protective shutter and slightly different cartridge shape.
:While it is used in the same way as the analog thumb stick of a modern console, the resistance springs are calibrated differently: They are softer, making quick, coarse adjustments a bit easier, but fine-grained ones a bit more difficult.
:The graphics and audio capabilities of the PSP lie somewhere between those of the original PlayStation and the PlayStation 2.
:While most of the available games are less complex than games available on PS2, the graphics nonetheless tend to be much closer in quality to the PS2 than the PS1. 
:This is probably in large part due to the small size of the screen, combined with the fact that unlike the PS1, the PSP's graphics chip performs texture filtering.
I'm not saying any of these are false statements, merely that they need references. Seraphim 21:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well... there ARE blatantly false statements in there. For example, the blurb comparing the UMD to the MiniDisk states that the only differences between the two media are "a lack of a shutter and the cartridge shape". This is horribly false- MiniDisk technology is based on magnetic principles (like a floppy disk), while a UMD operates off optical technology like a DVD does. The two are completely seperate. The thing about the analog nub is also false- the differences between the stick and the nub go far beyond "spring resistance calibration". The other items- the "complexity" and "capabilities", seem to be very subjective to me so I won't comment on them. Daniel Davis 14:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Games" section needs references 

message: I have just semiprotected this page to deal with a vandal. I intend to lift the block in 2 days,but if I forget, please remind me. --Improv 04:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  +semiprotect 

message: There is alot of old redundant data with one-sided focus in this section.
We have 5-month old PSP shipment data (with special care made to mention its shipped) being compared with 'un-sourced', certainly more up-to-date, presumably from Nintendo (shipment, sold, credibility is all negated without a source). Its obvious that strong bias has influenced this section.
Contestable, unsourced information is being removed as is redundant data talking about x month old sales.
ElWarri 04:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a very good reason to point out that it refers to "shipped" units.  Look at sony's listing of shipped numbers here.  It says "2005/10/21 10 million units (Japan: 3.00 million/ USA: 4.47 million/ Europe: 2.53 million) " which means on october 21st it shipped enough units to bring the total amount of avaliable PSP's to 10 million worldwide. Their next shipment went out on December 31st. "2005/12/31 15.03 million units (Japan: 4.20 million/ USA: 5.81 million/ Europe: 5.02 million)" What this means is that at the end of 2005 the maximium amount of possible PSP sales was 10million since there were only 10m psp's avaliable for purchase.  Also this does not mean that 10m were infact sold by year-end 2005, if that were the case every single store would have been sold out, which was also not the case, psp's were easy to find during the holiday season.  This link shows alot of what i'm talking about.  A company called media-create keeps track of sales for games and consoles in japan. They get exact numbers  due to the way the japanese game stores are set up (this doesn't happen in the us).  According to media create as of feburary 12th the total PSP sales in japan since it's release are at 2,993,215 which is alittle under 3 million.  To date, sony has shipped 4.2 million PSP's to japan, which means that alittle over 1.2 million are sitting on store shelves or more likely warehouses. If we take out the mention that it is "shipped" numbers, it would give the false impression that the PSP has outsold the DS globally, however simply by looking at the japanese sales alone we can tell that 1.2million psp's that have been shipped are not yet sold, therefore the maximum amount of possible sold PSP's is 13.83 million (15.03m - 1.2m)when the actual number is going to be quite lower. We must make sure that we do not allow the reader to get false impressions when reading the article, that is why there is special care made to mention that it is shipped figures. Seraphim 06:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant and mismatched sales comparisons/market share 

message: There is a small but growing number of people creating original content that can be veiwed on a PSP. In the interest of full disclosure, I have a flash cartoon that is available for PSP. Would it be appropriate to add a list of original PSP content? Or perhaps to start a new article about downloading and watching original content on a PSP? Wikifun! 16:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section? Original PSP Content 

message: Can someone provide a link proving that it is 15 mil. because I'm starting to think it is inflating like the Nintendo DS's sales did. Jedi6-(need help?) 22:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The "15 Million Shipped" statement is already sourced in the article itself, referencing Sony corporation's own statements []. We have to used shipped as opposed to sold because Sony doesn't keep track of sell data, only shipments. This is also why it is explicitely stated in the article (several times) that the unit lists are shipped and not sold. Daniel Davis 23:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok I was worried it was an anon increasing it falsly. I wish Sony would give out numbers like Nintendo. It would simplify everything. Jedi6-(need help?) 23:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah I've talked about this on this talk page elsewhere.  The 15m shipped would be equal to total units sold if the PSP was sold out globally, which is obviously not the case. Seraphim 23:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's not exactly true either. The 15 million tally is from December of this last year, meaning that there's been plenty of time for Sony to sell those 15 million and put a few more shipments on the shelves. But, of course, we don't KNOW for certain anything except that Sony shipped 15 million units as of December 31 2005. Daniel Davis 23:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sony has always updated their bizdata page the day they make the shipment.  We do know that at this time there are 15.03 million psp's out there.  They update when they make the shipments (note these shipments aren't to the stores themselves, they are to sony's distribution centers) they don't wait for a quarter or so, as is obvious by the fact that they posted some shipment numbers 22 days apart gearing up for the christmas season. Seraphim 01:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Regrettably for the PSP it isn't near 15 million sold. Jedi6-(need help?) 02:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: PSP units shipped

message: Maybe a note should be made of the PocketStation, as many people seem to think that the PSP is Sony's first foray into handheld gaming... --Wulf 03:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PocketStation 

message: I don't have any reference I can cite other than what my manager said at my Best Buy, but a new PSP box is coming out, with just a PSP in the box (no accessories) for $199 in the very near future. Should such a thing be mentioned?
Robert 19:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Damn, it's in there already. Disregard. Robert 19:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New PSP SKU coming out 

message: In all territories? which territories? G Clark 22:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variations and accessories