Talk:Finnish orthography

message: Does the Finnish alphabet skip the W, as does the Swedish? Egil 12:24, 11 March 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's usually listed in the alphabet, but only used in foreign names, just like Å.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.188.8.12 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 11 March 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: The same could be said about the letters B,Q,Z and X. Only used in foreign names and load words such as "banaani". :) JNi 12:57, 11 March 2003 (UTC)

text: The letter W is considered to be the same as the letter V (as in Swedish). But they can be separated in a multilingual contex. Acording to the standard SFS 4600. Source []. JNi 13:22, 11 March 2003 (UTC)

text: ￼aj 2409:40E4:204D:91F9:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 01:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: W and V

message: I recently heard that the Finnish alphabet in use today is a recent invention, deliberately to make the alphabet code more transparent (one sound - one letter).  Is there any truth in this rumour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Athertonmi (talk • contribs) 09:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly not. The alphabet has been copied "as is" from Swedish, and it has been so since Mikael Agricola began writing Finnish. Fortunately the Swedish alphabet contains enough sounds like Ä and Ö that Finnish speakers didn't have to design any new letters. Then again, unused letters like Q and Å remain. The last changes to Finnish orthography with respect to the alphabet were the changes from 'C' to 'K', 'X' to 'KS', 'TZ' to 'TS' and 'W' to 'V', in the 18th and 19th century. 'C', 'X', 'Z' and 'W' remained in the alphabet but were no longer used. --Vuo (talk) 14:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alphabet redesign?

message: The article mentions the presence of "Š" and "Ž" in the list of differences between the Finnish alphabet and other Latin based alphabets, but in the actual alphabet given, they don't appear. Should they be in there somewhere, or not? If not, they don't really belong in the list of differences... -- Oliver P. 14:16 24 May 2003 (UTC)
:They do hardly belong in the listed alphabet, although you might see that exceptionally. Their inclusion in the list of differences is of course disputable, and that on two levels. The first being your point, the second that the digraph-issue isn't undisputed in Finland. But maybe this is the best place to put it, and the best way to express it, given that the expected reader isn't particularly familiar with Finland and Finnish. -- Johan Magnus 02:27 28 May 2003 (UTC)
::Letters "Š" and "Ž" are never listed in Finnish alphabet in Finland. I think they are treated as S and Z respectively when putting things in alphabetical order. They are used in some words such as šakki (chess), which can  also be written shakki (or sometimes sakki, which can be confused with another word). The problem with these letters is Finnish keyboards don't have them and neither does ISO 8859-1. (ISO 8859-15 does, but it's quite new.) -- Lakefall 20:20, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I've never seen the letter ž in any Finnish word, but š is not uncommon. Words like Sasha and Shamaani are often written using it, but I don't think anyone would write šoppailla.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.222.74.175 (talk) 13:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The haceks 'š' and 'ž' are part of an official recommendation that is a source of the article. Certain newspapers and especially encyclopedias use them.  However, I don't recall them being taught at schools or anywhere else. --Vuo (talk) 15:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Š and Ž in Finnish orthography

message: According to this article, F is only used in some loanwords. Wouldn't it be worth mentioning the irony that the language Finnish has an F in its name in pretty much all European and Slavic languages except in Finnish itself?  66.91.85.45 (talk) 19:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letter F 

message: Reality is that these letters have two conversion rules "å>a ä>a ö>o" and "å>aa ä>ae ö>oe". source for latter is ICAO Doc 9303. Former is defined by noone but used. i don't know what precisely should be in article but saying that other one is only correct one is inappropriate for wikipedia.
Zeealien (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: letters å ä ö