Talk:Hepburn romanization

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message: Can we get dates on the first and second versions of the dictionary?72.12.220.26 (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

message: Fellow Editors, I have reviewed the discussion at "ゐ/ヰ and ゑ/ヱ" above, and the further discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Japan-related_articles/Archive_24#ゐ/ヰ and ゑ/ヱ, and consider, based on these discussion, that the current information is the result of WP:OR &/or WP:SYNTHesis on the part of previous editors.Hepburn romanization, which is the subject of this article, and should be the basis of the information in the tables, clearly romanizes these kana as: 1st edition: ゐ/ヰ i, ゑ/ヱ ye; 3rd & later editions: ゐ/ヰ i, ゑ/ヱ e; "modified Hepburn" (per ALA-LC):ゐ/ヰ i, ゑ/ヱ e. See: ,  & .Unless there are solid, policy-based, objections, I will amend the tables accordingly in the next day or so.Additionally, none of these sources support the content of the extended Katakana table; which is, in part, sourced to a document on representing foreign words in katakana. I would suggest that the representations are not transitive, and that this is WP:SYNTHesis. I will be likewise removing this information.And there are inclusions at Variants of Hepburn romanization which are verifiably alternatives to Hepburn, not variants. Likewise, absent policy based objections, I will be removing these inclusions. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 11:14, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues - WP:OR, WP:SYNTH, etc 

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message: For long (double) o sounds, the page currently reads, "The combination o + o is written oo if they are in two adjacent syllables." Is that supposed to mean two adjacent kanji? The idea of adjacent syllables (technically morae, I guess) doesn't make sense because all long vowels are adjacent morae. The example here also uses two adjacent kanji. Sandtalon (talk) 20:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double o's 

message: The article says the following:
:The combinations of two vowels within loanwords are written separately: 
:* バレエ: ba + re + e = baree – ballet
This kind of surprises me because I always believed レエ and レー were romanized the same. Hence both ケーキ and とうきょう both getting macrons (kēki, tōkyō). According to this rule, there's an exception that only goes for katakana: if double vowels are used, without a vowel marker, then no macron is added. Hence バレエ is baree, not barē.
Is there a source for this? I can't find it in other sources, like this pdf by the Tokyo University. I can't find where this rule came from. ----msikma; user, talk 20:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for combination of katakana vowels 

message: WHy do you always link Hepburn instead of Romanization of Japan, it is a much better idea to show all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.204.92 (talk) 11:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Hello everybody.
I often see on Wikipedia the Hepburn romanization of Japanese titles, where Roman or Arabic numerals are "re-romanized". Is that the correct way? Two examples:
* Dragon Quest III original title is ドラゴンクエストIII and Wikipedia's romanization renders the Roman numeral III as "Surī", that is English "three" written phonetically.
* Megaman 6 original title is ロックマン6 and Wikipedia's romanization renders the numeral 6 as "Shikkusu", that is English "six" written phonetically. 
Numerals should stay numerals, or is this the correct way of using Hepburn romanization? Thank you in advance for the answer. --Abacos (talk) 20:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect that the romanizations of the titles are romanizing the Japanese as pronounced, rather than as spelled.  This is not uncommon -- neither for numerals to be pronounced in Japanese as the borrowed English term, nor for that katakana-ized pronunciation to then be romanized as-is when the title is translated into English.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 23:16, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   I am pretty sure that the Japanese would pronounce the numerals in Japanese, instead of translating it in English. If I may propose a similarity (I cannot count in Japanese), it would be as if the French Wikipedia writes how an American would translate and pronounce in French the numerals in the titles of American movies ("Robocop deux"/dö:, "Rocky trois"/true-uh). --Abacos (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   "Dragon Quest" is English (after a fashion), and any numbers following an English title are often rendered as katakanized English -- notably, everyone going through pubic school in Japan (and most private schools as well) has to go through multiple years of English classes, so just about everyone in Japan has at least some passing knowledge of English.  Further research reveals that this katakanization of numbers appears to be the case for the various "Dragon Quest" titles.  For instance, see also :ja:ドラゴンクエストIII そして伝説へ…, where the title is rendered phonetically as  (emphasis mine: Doragon Kuesuto Surī: Soshite Densetsu E).  Likewise for the preceding title :ja:ドラゴンクエストII 悪霊の神々, phonetically spelled out as  (Doragon Kuesuto Tsū: Akuryō no Kamigami).  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 03:27, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hepburn romanization of already-English words and numerals 

message: Why is non-Hepburn Romanization option for passports categorized as mandated variant? It's neither mandated or a variant. --Saledomo (talk) 16:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport romanization 

message: This article stresses this selling point, twice, that Hepburn is good for those «», yet I’m at loss about the latter: Why specifically a Romance language, as opposed to other Germanic languages, if anything? The grapheme "sh", for one, is unique in European languages, shared only by Albanian (which is neither Romance nor Germanic).
This statement should be removed, if the quoted source doesn’t support it, or expanded, if it does; for now, I’ll add .
Tuvalkin (talk) 15:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good for romance?