Talk:Psyllium

message: This needs a cite (read WP:RS and WP:V first! •Jim62sch• 14:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cite

message: ===Support===
I support the merge. --Slashme 05:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[Psyllium seed husks]] here 

message: I support the merge. --Slashme 05:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

message: *Do not merge. One is about a plant and one is about a product. Both article function well as standalone artilces. -- Alan Liefting talk 22:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose

message: Which word is correct for crop planting etc.?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.193.144.79 (talk) 11:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Cultural' or 'Cultivating'?

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message: The health effects information presented is correct, but the cites are lacking entirely or so vague as to be useless.  
There are some more authoritative and specific sources cited in a "Sources" section at the end of the article, rather than footnoted in the text.  These would be much more effective if they were footnoted in the text.  
The listed "Sources" also lack web URLs, which can be added by consulting PubMed at the NLM NIH.
Allergic reactions to psyllium are documented here: http://www.drugs.com/sfx/psyllium-side-effects.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.171.152.2 (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health effects of dietary psyllium section needs cites

message: Alberts DS, Martínez ME, Roe DJ, et al. Lack of effect of a high-fiber cereal supplement on the recurrence of colorectal adenomas. N Eng J Med. 2000;342(16):1156-1162.
Anderson JW, Allgood LD, Lawrence A, et al. Cholesterol-lowering effects of psyllium intake adjunctive to diet therapy in men and women with hypercholesterolemia: meta-analysis of 8 controlled trials. Am J Clin Nutr. 2000;71:472-479.
Blumenthal M, Goldberg A, Brinckmann J. Herbal Medicine: Expanded Commission E Monographs. Newton, MA: Integrative Medicine Communications; 2000: 314-321.
Burke V, Hodgson JM, Beilin LJ, Giangiulioi N, Rogers P, Puddey IB. Dietary protein and soluble fiber reduce ambulatory blood pressure in treated hypertensives. Hypertension. 2001;38(4):821-826.
Chan MY, Heng CK. Sequential effects of a high-fiber diet with psyllium husks on the expression levels of hepatic genes and plasma lipids. Nutrition. 2008;24(1):57-66.
Chandalia M, Garg A, Lutjohann D, von Bergmann K, Grundy SM, Brinkley LJ. Beneficial effect of high dietary fiber intake in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus. N Eng J Med. 2000; 342:1392-1398.
Chang HY, Kelly EC, Lembo AJ. Current gut-directed therapies for irritable bowel syndrome. Curr Treat Options Gastroenterol. 2006 Jul;9(4):314-23.
Cicero AF, Derosa G, Manca M, Bove M, Borghi C, Gaddi AV. Different effect of psyllium and guar dietary supplementation on blood pressure control in hypertensive overweight patients: a six-month, randomized clinical trial. Clin Exp Hypertens. 2007;29(6):383-94.
Fernandez-Banares F. Nutritional care of the patient with constipation. Best Pract Res Clin Gastroenterol. 2006;20(3):575-87. Review.
Jänne PA, Mayer RJ. Chemoprevention of colorectal cancer. N Engl J Med. 2000;342(26):1960-1968.
Krauss RM, Eckel RH, Howard B, Appel LJ, Daniels SR, Deckelbaum RJ, et al. AHA Scientific Statement: AHA Dietary guidelines Revision 2000: A statement for healthcare professionals from the nutrition committee of the American Heart Association. Circulation. 2000;102(18):2284-2299.
Liu S, Manson JE, Stampfer MJ, et al. A prospective study of whole-grain intake and risk of type-2 diabetes mellitus in women. Am J Pub Health. 2000;90:1409-1415.
National Cholesterol Education Program. Executive summary of the third report of the National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) expert panel on detection, evaluation, and treatment of high blood cholesterol in adults (Adult Treatment Panel III). JAMA. 2001;285(19):2486-2497.
Petchetti L, Frishman WH, Petrillo R, Raju K. Nutriceuticals in cardiovascular disease: psyllium. Cardiol Rev. 2007 May-Jun;15(3):116-22. Review.
Rakel D. Rakel Integrative Medicine, 2nd ed. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders Elsevier; 2007.
Saper RB, Eisenberg DM, Phillips RS. Common dietary supplements for weight loss. Am Fam Physician. 2004 Nov 1;70(9):1731-8. Review.
Schatzkin A, Lanza E, Corle D, et al. Lack of effect of a low-fat, high-fiber diet on the recurrence of colorectal adenomas. N Engl J Med. 2000;342(16):1149-1155.
Shrestha S, Freake HC, McGrane MM, Volek JS, Fernandez ML. A combination of psyllium and plant sterols alters lipoprotein metabolism in hypercholesterolemic subjects by modifying the intravascular processing of lipoproteins and increasing LDL uptake. J Nutr. 2007 May;137(5):1165-70.
Singh B. Psyillium as therapeutic drug delivery agent. Int J Pharm. 2007;334(1-2):1-14.
Theuwissen E, Mensink RP. Water-soluble dietary fibers and cardiovascular disease. Physiol Behav. 2008;94(2):285-92.
Uehleke B, Ortiz M, Stange R. Cholesterol reduction using psyllium husks - do gastrointestinal adverse effects limit compliance? Results of a specific observational study. Phytomedicine. 2008;15(3):153-9.
Ziai SA, Larijani B, Akhoondzadeh S, Fakhrzadeh H, Dastpak A, Bandarian F, et al. Psyllium decreased serum glucose and glycosylated hemoglobin significantly in diabetic outpatients. J Ethnopharmacol. 2005 Nov 14;102(2):202-7.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.11.31 (talk) 17:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Many additional medical journal sources, some duplicative of "Sources" section

message: The article just states that Psyllium husk just adds bulk to stool which is how it becomes a laxative but I remember reading somewhere that it is a bit "scratchy" so it irritates the bowels and that is how it becomes a laxatibe. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?70.79.55.114 (talk) 07:37, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Question Of How Psyllium Husk Works

message: Of original weight. ee1518 (talk) 09:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientific source for: how much it swells? 40 times? 20 times? 

message: Interactions of Psyllium
1/2
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/03639049509070866
Utilizing the AUC values, the % bioavailability of Carbamazepine in presence of the fibres relative to carbamazepine alone was lower and was found to be 55% (Table I ).
2/2 Lithium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1968148
91.214.167.2 (talk) 14:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interactions with Medicines (and other food?) 

message: Wouldn't it be better to merge Special:Permalink/751985414 to Plantago ovata?  The references that were cited in that article were specifically about the Plantago ovata species as opposed to other members of the Plantago genus to which "psyllium" may refer. Metamucil also appears to refer to psyllium fiber derived from Plantago ovata, per the Metamucil website:  Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 17:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just pulled a book (James Duke's Handbook of Medicinal Herbs) off my shelf to see if there were any claims about which species is most prevalent in commerce. While Duke has Plantago ovata in the header for his Psyllium section, he goes on to say, "I doubt that many botanists can tell all the plantain species apart, even in the field with flowers, fruits, and leaves present. I maintain that unvouchered studies on these closely related species are almost meaningless and the medical literature built on a mountain of toothpicks." (full text available here) Basically, the cited studies are calling whatever is was they studied "Plantago ovata" because that's what medical studies always call it (without ever verifying what species of plant they actually have). According to Duke, WHO considers P. afra (=P. psyllium), P. asiatica, P. indica and P. ovata to be sources of psyllium. Plantdrew (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Also call the stuff psyllium and I assume that is the generic name. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I suppose the relevant question is, is all plant matter which is called "psyllium" used in the production of dietary fiber products which is consumed by humans?  If so, then I agree that those two articles should redirect here.  However, if this is not the case, then those two links should redirect to P. ovata OR it should be made clear in this article by creating an independent level 2 subsection on fiber supplements that contain psyllium which states the species that are used in fiber supplements in the introduction to that section. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 19:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

text: Edit: just to be clear, if the latter is the case and we don't fix this, then we are deliberately misleading our readers. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 19:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think all plant matter which is called "psyllium" (lower case, no italics) is used in the production of dietary fiber products, and that this plant matter comes from a handful of species in  "Plantago subgenus Psyllium" (including, but not limited to P. ovata). In rare cases (taxonomy contexts) one might see "Psyllium" (capitalized and italicized) referring to the entire subgenus (including species not used as the source for "psyllium"). 22:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree if there are less common uses of the term than we should definitely have other pages for them and link them here. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Psyllium seed husks]]

message: For cholesterol lowering, U.S. and European Union have approved health claims. Should be added, with examples of label wording, and appropriate citations. David notMD (talk) 07:20, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Actually, US has an approved claim, but EU (EFSA) never reviewed a proposal, and so no position taken. David notMD (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs mention of FDA and EFSA approved health claims 

message: We generally get these from WHO/FAO. I spent some time looking and it doesn't appear that they track this as a commodity.   But ideally rather than commercial sources we go to other trade organizations (like the OECD), then to national governments, and finally to independent media.    We sometimes use market research reports; almost never do we use sites of companies that actually sell and trade. Jytdog (talk) 01:31, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points, but until other sources are revealed, why not put in as a placeholder, "According to a commercial sit, India is the predominant source of psyllium" (with the link). As a psyllium user, I found this commercial site to be useful.Bellagio99 (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Better to wait, to find a good source. Jytdog (talk) 03:33, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production statistics 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Metamucil. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 6#Metamucil until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Metamucil" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The inclusion and coverage of Metamucil is valid as a major commercial use/trade of psylllium, but the current Metamucil coverage seems way too detailed to the point of irrelevance. Eg, do we need to know the product logo has been updated, and how often? Nvmb3rTh30ry (talk) 01:48, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - deleted. Zefr (talk) 03:06, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extraneous details about Metamucil 

message: The source for this included statement does not refer specifically to Psyllium, but to fiber in general. In fact, other sources mention that Psyllium is (surprisingly) anti-flatulent. The sentence should be removed.
69.124.112.205 (talk) 03:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It increases flatulence (gas) to some degree."