Talk:Indian Americans/Archive 1

message: "Numbering at least 2.5 million, Indian Americans account for slightly less than 1% of the total population of the United States"
2.5 million is the wrong number. According to the 2000 census, there were 1.6 million Asian Indians in United States or about 0.6% of the total population. July 25, 2005
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Footnote 7 links to a population distribution map among all 50 states. I found it on the Indian Embassy webpage and the data from which it is complied comes from the U.S. census bureau and India Abroad Center for Political Awareness.....so you know it's credible. 
OhioDesi 19:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population Figure 

message: "the official stance became to classify Indians as Asian despite acknowledging that many anthropologists classify Indians as Caucasian and not as Mongoloid."
What does the term "Asian" has to do with being "Caucasion" or "Mongoloid". Not all Indians are classified as "caucasion" by Antropologists. Only the North Indians are classified as "caucasion". Besides, the term "caucasion" does not mean anyhting. Indians are not considered "caucasion" in Western countries. Caucasion in America only refers to European Americans. 27 July, 2005.
:: According to U.S. courts and census bureau, Middle Easterners (not Indians) are considered Caucasian, so your assertion that "Caucasian in America only refers to European Americans" is invalid.
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American Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangalis refer to themselves as Desi (meaning "country men"), and usually forget about the political strife between the three countries which share very similiar cultures.
article is about indian americans, not paks and bangladeshis.  There is already a pak american article.
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"What does the term "Asian" has to do with being "Caucasion" or "Mongoloid". Not all Indians are classified as "caucasion" by Antropologists. Only the North Indians are classified as "caucasion". Besides, the term "caucasion" does not mean anyhting. Indians are not considered "caucasion" in Western countries. Caucasion in America only refers to European Americans."
No actually South Indians are classified as Caucasion as well. Theo only difference is skin color (being closer to the equator). 97% of all Indians (both North and South) belong to a caucasoid race of the mediterranean sub-branch. 
Also in America Russians, and Southwest Asians (Middle Easterners) are classified as caucasion, despite being Asian themselves. So race classifications often contradict themselves. Zachorious 03:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asian Group 

message: Should Bend it like Beckham be included in the films sections even though it's british?  --Dangerous-Boy
First of all, paks and bangladeshis are not desi.  Desi is a name we indians give to greet other indians.  Pakkis just want to be included.  Let them find themself some other urdu word.  Bend it like Beckhams should be included as it covers all the indian american sentiments.  Location is less important than the subject.  In this case the subject is universal and applies to indians everywhere(out side of india).  
  
  Finally i end with a message to all the pakkis and bangladeshi's.  Stop identifying yourself with US!!!!
-You are so ignorant. We Pakistanis are the closest thing to you Indians, other than your fellow Indians. Our languge is the same as Hindi, just an overemphasis of Persian and Arabic vocabulary, as you guys overemphasize Sanskrit, (after independence). Our culture, customs, sentiments (for the most part) and languages are the same. We Pakistanis are majority Panjabis and Sindhis (i persoanlly am a Pathan but I feel proud of Punjabi ancestry as well). We are as much desi as others. Remember, a bloody violent partition is not enough to cut us off from each other. We are as tied together as Syrians and Lebanese are tied to each other.
-User: Afghan Historian
:I disgree.  If you wanted to be apart us, you would have stayed.  I have nothing incommon with a paki.  Go join the arabs.  that's what you center your culture around.--Dangerous-Boy 09:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia is not a place to stir up nationalistic rhetoric. This page is starting to sound ominously like Talk:Aryan_invasion_theory. While YOU may feel you have nothing in common with people from Pakistan (I think Paki is a slur like brownie, coolie, etc, btw!), at my Uni, and many other Unis around the country, communities from all of the greater Indian subcontinent are very tightly bonded. Vvuppala 10:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To each his own.  ALthough I don't agree with your statement.--Dangerous-Boy 17:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

text:  I think "Indian" should encompass any South Asian who feels Indian.  There are thousands of years of Hindu history and Indus Valley history buried beneath Pakistan.  True, modern-day Pakistani curriculum discards any evidence of a pre-Islamic civilization, but the same was true between the Christian Holy Roman Empire which all but denied that it was once a pagan Roman civilization, and the Eastern Byzantine empire which continued the literature, technology, and values of the original Romans. 80% of Pakistanis will probably rather never remember that they share anything with India, but 20% are quite aware that Pakistan is a modern creation and in antiquity it was Indian, and in even earlier antiquity it was Hindu. - Thoreaulylazy 05:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Bend It Like Beckham is a film whose main protagonist is a British Asian. 65% of the film is about Jess's family (her, her sister and her sister's boyfriend, etc.), and in addition, the film was co-written by and directed by yet another British Asian. So, yes, I think that this film deserves to be in that category. No question. -- Jalabi99 06:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bend it like Beckham? 

message: I think the article still needs to be fleshed out more.  I want to make it even better than the chinese and filipino ones.  What else do u guys think do we need to work on?  --Dangerous-Boy
* I see sentences about politics, voting, affliations etc are spead out throughout the article. Bringing all of them under one section would be good --Vyzasatya 01:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. Dangerous-Boy 05:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  what else needs work? 

message: the article shows clear age bias. the focus seems to be entirely on people 21+, who have emigrated to the US for jobs. many indian-americans are of my generation, and grew up in america. i realize there is already and article for the so-called "ABCD", however, at least some of that information needs to make its way into this article. also, i don't identify as ABCD, because I was born in India and still speak and read/write telugu. there are plenty of things that can be added to make this article more well rounded.
Vvuppala 02:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  age bias 

message: I saw that the edit that added Swadhyay Pariwar to the list of cultural establishments. When that edit was removed on charge of vandalism, I looked on Google- Swadhyay Pariwar actually does exist, and does have centers in the US. I have reverted to the edit that includes the Swadyay Pariwar amongst the list of institutions.
Vvuppala 18:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes they are quite big among Gujarati people.Bakaman 18:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swadhyaya Pariwar 

message: In the "classification" section it says that classification of Indian Americans as "Asian" has consequences because many laws and quotas are race-based. Well, clearly many quotas are race-based, but are there really any state or federal laws that could be described as "race-based"? If so, which ones? Babajobu 11:40, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race-based laws 

message: I reverted User:Dangerous-Boy's revert as:
Asian Indian is the current US Census term for Indian Americans, not "East Indian". East Indian was formerly used colloquially, though not as a US Census term for people from the Indian subcontinent. Speculation about the total South Asian American population should go in the South Asian American article. This article is strictly about the Indian American population.
Arun 10:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: Edited out: "See external link for a comparative media portrayal: [http://www.niaf.org/research/report_zogby.asp"
(1)Is this a peer reviewed study? 
(2)"People from India" are not in the report.  For many Americans, "Asian American" or "Asiatic" refers to Chinese. For example, see the Wikipedia article Asian in other English-speaking countries.   (Remember, the Zogby report was asking teenagers, not United States government officials.  
4.228.90.84 03:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited out Zogby report 

message: The population figures, seeming quoted from the US Census of 2000 are highly incorrect. The 1.6 million figure is apparently taken from the the census where it is denoted for "Asian in combination with one or more other races" and NOT Indian American. It should be further noted that the same 1.6 million is further divided 5 sub-groups including Asian White, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific
Islander, and even Asian Black. Not all of these can be categorized as "Indian American". Now I am not here to tell you that there aren't so many Indians in America, just that the source of are quoting does not match up with what is being said in the article. So either find a better source, or remove the 1.6 million figure.
Reference: http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/c2kbr01-16.pdf
--H2d2 22:23, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flawed Population Figures 

message: *Cultural establishments
*Entertainment
citations
*Disunity
*Assimilation
--Dangerous-Boy 20:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  areas that still need work 

message: Is this really necessary?  I mean it seems bit silly.  Not every article needs an image.  In this case, I find it both funny and sad.  That image can be of anyone anywhere in the world.  I can't think of the words but it looks rather ridiculous.  --Blacksun 04:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of "an Indian American boy" 

message: Got rid of the not very relevant Indian American image, some unfounded speculation, made some corrections (people want to keep removing the fact that many Indians are cab drivers. Also added a few "Citation needed" tags, where they would be useful.
Arun 07:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I kind of liked that image.  Also, we might need to clean out some of the links section.--Dangerous-Boy 18:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

text: LoL "not very relevant" is rather diplomatic :P --Blacksun 19:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some cleanup 

message: The politics section seems to cover it.--Dangerous-Boy 07:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I believe that it should be deleted. I would also like to suggest a clean-up of Politics. -Emmadi 11:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  get rid of disunity section? 

message: Is it worth noting that spelling bee competitions regularly have Indian Americans in the top 10. They were also past winners. In 2006, that was shown live on ABC yesterday, Rajeev came 4th. - Ganeshk (talk) 17:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He didn't try hard enough!  should have made first!--Dangerous-Boy 17:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling bee competition 

message: I'ver heard of a couple.
another one had a hindu temple in minnasota vandalized.--Dangerous-Boy 20:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hate crimes 

message: Are there any notable indians that could be added to this page? for example, the Asian American article talks about various people who have made in impact in the arts, sports, science etc. There has to be a least one or two notable indian americans...right? Wangster 15:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure there are scientists.--Dangerous-Boy 18:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: There's a complete list at List of Indian Americans.  How about Nobel Prize winners Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar and Har Gobind Khorana? --Musicpvm 21:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous indians 

message: Does anyone else think there needs to be an entry for or passing reference to "Macaca" in the discrimination section of the main article?  Granted, it's not really that important, but the media seems abuzz with it.  Also, the list of famous Indian-Americans in the main article is paltry and the choice of using Rep. Jindal (R-LA) for a portrait picture is suspect, in my opinion.  Once I get time to spend, I'll try to clean up the main article some, but if others want to try, there's a better chronicle of Indian American heroes/accomplishments at somebody's blog.  The blog itself seems to be a sort of retort to the recent macaca-incident (however important/unimportant it is), but it seems to do a better job of conveying the essense of being Indian-American (emphasizing the -American part in terms of how Indian-Americans have improved America) than the main wiki article for Indian-Americans. Also, it does a better job of not totally focussing on Indian Americans since post-1990s lest readers think the '90s were the birth of us. My 2 cents. -- Thoreaulylazy 05:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those two pics should be removed.  put Upendra J. Chivukula in instead.  Macaca should be mentioned.--D-Boy 21:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Macaca" and general article quality 

message: From my recollection, isn't ABCD a description created by particular sects of desi people (i.e.  Indians born in india and living in american, of whom characterized American born Indian people who have "lost their ethnic ways")?  From this article, one would assume that the term ABCD was created by ethnicities other than east indians.
66.182.249.211 03:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABCD origin 

message: Added to cultural establishment, a portion on indian american churches representing various indian ethnicities, with link to Indian american Churches Directory site.
Also added malayalis as part of recent indian ethnicities coming to america.--71.30.188.223 04:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: xtianity didn't come from india.  it came from the middle east.  xtianity was already etablished before indians came to america.--D-Boy 21:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I think you read my statement too quick.--D-Boy 08:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: D-Boy definitely isnt anti-Indian. He wants to remove the link to some nn church only because he's a desi.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been working on this article since it was a stub.  What you are doing is putting religious proganda.  This article was pretty secular.  You make it sound that there are more xtians than muslims from india.  --D-Boy 23:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I practically created :Category:Indian Americans (I added over 100+ ppl to that category). Anyways there are more Indian Muslims than Indian Christians in the US, and every nn church doesnt deserve a spot on the article.The majority of Japanese American (per this article: Japanese_American#Religion) are Chirstian so they et a para of recogntion in the article. Christians are nowhere near the majority, or even a burgeoning minority among Indian Americans. Indian Christians rarely set up their own churches, they are usually absorbed into mainstream churches anyways. Bakaman Bakatalk 16:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true.--D-Boy 23:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: If anyone is being harassed or discriminated against, it me by you.  You accused me of being anti-indian and anti-xtian.  I have not removed any of the content that you added.  I suggest you apologize immediately and cease desist from your current actions.  It's unfair to wikipedia that you are perscuting people on such biased claims.  I think you should think about what you have done and how it has affected others in this matter.  Also, you do not have proprietary rights here either.  I also suggest you obtain a username.--D-Boy 00:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point IP. I'm goin to list out every Hindu organization in the Us, every IMuslim org, every Parsi org, every IBuddhist org etc. Wikipedia is not secular.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added to cultural establishment on Indian American Churches 

message: The anatomy section is laughable.  I have edited it to separate the assertions of racial similarity and penis size, and included requests for references.
24.7.67.118 11:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the anatomy section.  Is there an anatomy section for other American immigrants?  --BostonMA talk 13:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy section? 

message: The Economics section needs a rewrite. The wording in the following paragraph is off and the highlighted sentence is either superfluous or incomplete.
:Indian Americans own 50% of all economy lodges and 35% of all hotels in the United States, which have a combined market value of almost $40 billion. (Source: Little India Magazine). A University of California, Berkeley, study reported that one-third of the engineers in Silicon Valley are of Indian descent, while 7% of valley high-tech firms are led by Indian CEOs. (Source: Silicon India Readership Survey) According to Technology Review 35, the technical journal of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 2002, there were over 223,000 Asian Indian-owned firms in the U.S., employing more than 610,000 workers, and generating more than $88 billion in revenue.[7]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.98.24 (talk) 17:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite required 

message: The lists of states and cities where Indians reside keeps on changing and is becoming more meaningless. States such as North Carolina, Georgia, etc are coming up on the lists even though the last census statistics show that these states do not have significant amount of Indian Americans. Similarly cities like Charlotte are appearing on this list. Lets uniformly decide to only have a certain number of states or cities on these lists based on the highest population (indian embassy statistics) to about 5-7.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.22.14 (talk) 15:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  States & Cities 

message: The article says: Merrill Lynch recently revealed that there are nearly 200,000 Indian American millionaires. One in every nine Indians in the United States is a millionaire
It also says there are 2,319,000 Indian Americans.  That doesn't equate 1 in 9.  I realize the study was in 2003.  Is there a more recent study? Akubhai 17:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Millionaires 

message: There is an issue I would like to raise in regard to the population figures. In this article, it says there are some ~2.4 million "Indian Americans". However, the South Asian American article says there are some ~1.9 million South Asian Americans. This does not make sense to me. Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the term "South Asian American" include ALL Indian Americans? If so, then one of the two population figures would have to be wrong, no? Thanks for the help! JeffreyN 20:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discrepancy with population figures in [[South Asian American]] 

message: Why are there two figures for median household income in 2004? Can someone please resolve this?
89.243.78.232 16:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Median Household Income for 2004 

message: Is the picture of Kalpana Chawla really necessary? I don't think this article really needs a picture, at least not of a person. Insertclevernamehere 22:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: me too.--D-Boy 20:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, no pics would be best, especially if there are always disagreements about them--Kathanar 19:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think a picture could be helpful.  What if someone didn't know what an Indian American looked like (I doubt that would be the case, but isn't that the point of an encyclopedia)? Akubhai 21:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Here is an article from USA Today if anyone thinks the article needs any more hotel stuff in it. Akubhai 15:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hotels 

message: The merge proposal disturbs the convenience of browsing the articles in an encyclopaedic form. The content in the NRI-PIO site is brief and doesn't warrant a merger. Thanking You, AltruismTo talk 08:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No merging 

message: There is a section saying Indians tend to be more liberal that had a fact tag since April.  I'm going to remove the lines from the page assuming there is no source for it.  Someone recently added a line about "exit polls" with no source.  How can you have an "exit" poll before an election?  Akubhai 12:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politics 

message: As a suggestion: For uniformity, when placing citations, can people please use ref-tags like instead of  -- also, place citations and ((cite-needed)) after punctuations like this.  Thanks; alternate suggestions for consistency are welcomed. -- Thoreaulylazy 21:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations and Cite-needed tags 

message: As inspired by reading a talk dicussion from The Thai American Page, that to say as from expiernce and Smart logical thinking, that not all Indian Americans are like what the tile says so, As I had known a subtitue Teacher's aide Who's from India, and as I felt in the first place after I read in the economics section that the Indian Americans I had look around in my life are not wealthy upper class like people. So as as a result I think things had to be cleared out a bit so to be more accurate in a sense.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.237.146 (talk) 01:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well not all [[Indian  American]]s are [[Elite]] [[White Collar]] Workers. 

message: I mean i'm not a hater, but is he really a notable indian-american?
I mean i don't see William Hung at the top of the Chinese American wiki
His picture/name could be replaced by many other potentials such as M. Night Shyamalan or Kal Penn or Sanjay Gupta etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.35.27 (talk) 01:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanjaya?!?!?! 

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thread_title:  Image copyright problem with Image:ChandraNobel.png 

message: I am thinking of adding to this page some of the stereotypes that Asian Indian people face in America. Though it may seem trivial to some, I think that this is a significant part of anyone who fits this racial category (such as myself) live's. What do you guys think>  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidmsuri (talk • contribs) 03:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thinkinkg of adding.... 

message: I replaced the incorrect statement that the US Census classifies any of the inhabitants of "modern-day" India as racially Asian.  The US Census repeats the phrase "origins in any of the original peoples" to indicate indigenous status.  The US Census ancestry code listing says that write-ins of "Aryan" or "Parsi" gets you classified as part of the white race, because they originate from Iran.  They are not included as the original people of the Indian Subcontinent even though many people in India are of Aryan descent and some are Parsi.----DarkTea© 01:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern day people of India 

message: The part that talks about discrimination is based on people's opinions. Look at the sources. I mean, come on, saying that it happens all of the time but it is not reported, this is opinion.
Also, backlash is not the same as racial prejudice. It is well documented how much outsourcing there is, and ACTUAL racism (like how it used to be against African-Americans) is not based on facts. Contralya (talk) 09:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not hard facts, opinion 

message: Theres been some disagreement on whose pics to show for the politics section. Religion seems to be the dividing line. Religion shouldn't come into play as no one religion defines the Indian American identity. The highest ranking indian right now in politics is Bobby Jindal. Due to him being a christian, especially one who has voluntarily become a christian, not being born as such, there has been opposition and attempts to remove his picture (very childish). On the other hand there is support for a pretty much unknown politician's picture Upendra Chivukula(an Assemblyman from New Jersey?) to be put up for the only thing I can see is that somehow is more identifiably Hindu. Anyway someone removed his pic, which is also very childish, but I have another solution. Why don't we just put up the pics of the highest ranking, most identifiable indian politicians, one of which is Bobby Jindal. I've also added a pic of Kumar P. Barve (a Hindu) who is the Head Legislator of the Maryland House which I feel is the next highest. Plus I think he has the distinction being the first state legislator of Indian origin. I've put the pics on a equal level on the left and right so no one thinks ones being favored. When religion is relevant it should be discussed or cited, but in this case its ridiculous.--Kathanar 14:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No picture is better.--D-Boy 08:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about Vikram Pandit  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niku1980 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Whichever picture is used in the end it is a fairly minor issue. I would prefer one and don't really care as long as they are Indian American and notable. If there is a politician that stands out more than the rest, I suggest adding a photo that person. Religion should have nothing to do with who's chosen. After all, the article is called Indian American, not Hindu American or Indian Christian American. I hope that when each section has a pic, it would reflect the wide range of religions present in India. It is a shame that there aren't as many images floating around for notable people in areas other than politics. GizzaChat © 06:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I put a muslim indian in the poltics sections but someone removed it.--D-Boy 06:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Dalip Singh Saund, Nikki Haley or Zach Zacharias?Bakaman 16:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm cool with it.--D-Boy 17:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dalip seems to be the most notable because he was the first Indian to be elected onto the U.S. Congress. GizzaChat © 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Excuse me but where do you go off stating it was religion that had to do with the removal of bobby's picture.  I didn't state that.  you did.  Dalip is the most notable since he's the first.  Dalip shall be the only be pic there.  From there, we should have a concensus on which should be there.--D-Boy 03:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politics of Picture Politics 

message: The article says: "On April 5, 2006, the Hindu Mandir of Minnesota was vandalised on the basis of religious discrimination"
But the sources cited with it say:
"Maple Grove police said there were no suspects and the vandalism, which occurred last Wednesday and caused several thousand dollars' damage, does not appear to be a hate crime."
and 
"Police Capt. Tracy Stille said the vandalism was not classified as a hate crime because police and temple officials agreed it appeared to be random."
Is there any proof it was vandalized based on "religious discrimination"?  I've added a fact tag but if there is no proof, it needs to be removed from the article. Akubhai 13:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discrimination 

message: "American Indian has fallen out of favor and Native American is more commonly used to refer to the Indigenous peoples of North America".  Since When?  Most American Indians still call themself Indian.  It is mostly just media that says "Native American".  Many of us, when we want to differentiate refer to people from India as East Indian, and we will call ourselves American Indian.  Thanks Iamanadam (talk) 03:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian American VS. American Indian 

message: Please replace Angel Island with Angel Island (because Angel Island is a dab page). Thanks. 58.8.6.116 (talk) 12:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. 58.8.1.144 (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angel Island 

message: Saying that something happens all of the time but is not reported?
This statement does not belong in the article, as it is opinion and not proven fact.:
"Due to various socio-cultural reasons, implicit racial discrimination against Indian Americans largely go unreported by the Indian American community"
Without actual data backing it up, this is just an opinion, and only facts should be present in the article.  Contralya (talk) 17:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largley un-reported? 

message: Active editors of this article are invited to join the discussion regarding the change in Asian American article's infobox.  Specifically we are looking to get nominations for individuals who would fall under this article, nominations shall remain open until 9 November 2009.  Comments are also welcomed.  Thank you in advance --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 13:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invitation to discussion 

message: no wikipedia article, he's an adjunct and vice dean so I don't think notability is established--Work permit (talk) 02:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anjani Jain 

message: Rajan Zed appeared relatively obscure, so I removed him from the infobox.  The editor who added it may have a wp:coi--Work permit (talk) 04:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajan Zed in infobox 

message: I am looking for assistance in finding references regarding Asian Indian Americans during World War II.  During the 1940 US Census "Hindu Americans" were the fourth largest group of Asian Americans after the Japanese, Chinese, and Filipinos.  So far I have not found significant sources which to create a paragraph for Indian Americans in the article Military History of Asian Americans.  If anyone would like to assist, they can place references they find on the article's talk page.  Thank you in advance. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assistance requested 

message: I would like to suggest that we move lists of famous personalities (in different fields) to some place like  List of famous Indian Americans. Also lists in the "Media" section would soon grow large, and it seems like moving that to a different page and linking it from the media portrayal sub-section (in current social issues) would be more relevant. What say? ImmortallyTranquil 22:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: go for it.--D-Boy 07:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I moved some of the lists (politicians, media references, and sports personalities) over to other pages and linked them here. Hope it helps. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ImmortallyTranquil (talk • contribs) 00:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup of lists - listing of famous personalities, media, etc. 

message: Shouldn't the category for Americans of Indian origin be 'Indian American' than 'Americans of Indian descent'? All other categories that concern foreign origin Americans have the category as hyphenated American. Shouldn't that be the case here too?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.18.118.70 (talk) 08:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian American or Americans of Indian descent 

message: New York and the surrounding states do not count as a metro area, thus San Francisco Bay Area should be named to be the Metro area with the largest Indian American population.
I have stated this many times, yet no one has bothered to argue or even listen to what I say. Watch what happens. Where is the source that proves that 17 little indias have sprung in New York city metro area?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.250.9 (talk) 23:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York 

message: Can somebody please unprotect this page. there are so many errors and no one is bothering to change them. NY, NJ, Conneticut, and Pennsylvania is NOT A METRO AREA therefore it is not the METRO AREA WITH LARGEST INDIAN POPULATION!
San Francisco Bay Area is the largest Indian American Metro Area....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.250.9 (talk) 19:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: Why hasn't the issue of illegal immigration been brought up in this article? Indians make up the fastest growing illegal immigrants in the US with numbers as high as 270,000 according to  and several other websites yet this has even to be discussed? Its even on the Asian American article and not this one. the article seems to be locked so i can't edit it so if anyone can it would be appreciated. Sh79 (talk) 03:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal immigration 

message: The population should be the latter figure of 2.whatever million. The first figure is just of the Indian-born population and does not include American-born descendants who are still Indian-American.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.23.76 (talk) 08:02, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  population figure 

message: I listed the three major Indian languages amongst Indian-Americans as per the 2000 census. Various people keeping adding other major languages that are not listed amongst the most populous languages in America. I understand they are major Indian languages, but the census does not show them as major IA languages Thegreyanomaly (talk) 03:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages 

message: Please add the following which I think has been inadvertently missed - a celebrated Indian whom we have missed in this Wiki. This should be put in the "timeline" section...
* 1999 - Rono Dutta (http://www.state.il.us/agency/idol/wm/2001/Book/dutta.htm) was the President of United Airlines(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines) from 1999 to 2002.
Sumantra Sarkar
: Done Tim Pierce (talk) 18:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Sumantra Sarkar, 7 May 2010 

message: The Article cites the number as 35,000 doctors...
An NEJM article http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMsa050004 has reliable data and states that the number is 40,838 doctors of Indian Origin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.201.41.126 (talk) 10:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of doctors of Indian Origin 

message: I found this borough near Philadelphia called Millbourne. According to the US Census 2000, this borough is 40.2% Indian. I strongly feel this borough should be included, but I know there should be a discussion first. here's the link
--Jmumman (talk) 05:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Millbourne, Pennsylvania 

message: Is there any sourced information available on the state of origin of Indian immigrants? Or even general regions like North, South and West India?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by K. the Surveyor (talk • contribs) 00:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian states of origin 

message: Why is the word "among" used in the following sentence: "[Indian Americans] are among the most highly educated in American demographics." If you look at the statistics referenced for that sentence, Indian Americans are THE most highly educated in american demographics. 64% have a college degree, where as the next highest is the chinese with 46%. 12% have an advanced degree, whereas the next highest is once again the chinese with 8.5%. A simple removal of the word "among" would be nice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.68.150 (talk) 23:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not to be picky about one word but... 

message: Please change the article to reflect that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.194.214 (talk) 05:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nikki Haley won the Gubernatorial Race in South Carolina 

message: The following should be added to accurately reflect the history of immigration of Indians to the United States:
In 1965, alongside much of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation of 1964-6, President Lyndon Johnson signed the INS Act of 1965 into law, eliminating per-country immigration quotas and introducing immigration on the basis of professional experience and education. The elimination of these quotas paved the way for the surge of Indian immigrants that came during the late 1900s into the 21st century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Before Being (talk • contribs) 
: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to "Arrival to US" section under "History" section 

message: I am removing redundant and unsourced material from the page.  For example, the page states the brain drain topic twice.  
Unsourced material include attributes to why fewer Indians are emigrating here.
I also removed a statement that Indians have highest higher educational attainment compared to other ethnic groups.  I do not deny this is a fact but I question its neutrality (it sounds like race promotion than anything else) and it was not sourced.  If someone sources this statement and rewrites it in a neutral manner then I think it would be more appropriate.  Otherwise it adds nothing of value to the page.
In the discrimination page I've removed statements regarding the murders of Indian students.  Neither of the murders were found to be racially motivated and the evidence is not presented.  Just because the Indian embassy investigated them or that they occured "near" Bobby Jindal does not mean these are race based murders (though I am not denying they could be).  
  I will update this page as I edit.Surag198 (talk) 20:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing unsourced material 

message: Please see the discussion that I started regarding a recent tag that has been added. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction-inline tag 

message: I have placed  and  tags in this article.
;The contradict tag
This article appears to contain an internal contradiction re population ranking, as follows:
*The Demographics section of this article asserts, "According to the results of the 2010 census, Asian Indians surpassed Filipino Americans as the second largest ethnic group to identify themselves as Asian Americans." A number of supporting sources are cited, and the statement is tagged with a  tag. 
*The Statistics on Indians in the US section says, "Indian Americans are the third largest Asian American ethnic group today, following Chinese Americans and Filipino Americans.[2][3][4]" A number of supporting sources are cited.
I have not examined the information in the supporting sources but, regarding that, please consider WP:DUE.
;The Contradict other tag.
This tag, unlike the Contradict -inline tag supports placement in two separate articles in which contradictions are seen, and identification of a discussion venue in either of the two articles. As there was already a discussion uderway there, I have identified Talk:Filipino American#June 2011 as the discussion venue for this contradiction. Please discuss a solution to resolve the contradiction there.
I came upon this when I stumbled across the contradiction discussion in the Filipino American article mentioned above. I am trying to be helpful by getting interested editors on both articles together to discuss and resolve these problems. As it happens, I am in travel mode myself, and I'm posting this from a hotel room. I probably will not have the time to get involved in extended discussion regarding this, but I'll comment that it seems to me from some superficial reading that resolution would grow out of attention to WP:DUE by editors of both articles. Please see some comments I made about that in the discussion section at Talk:Filipino American#June 2011. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict & contradiction re population ranking 

message: Where are the references ?? 76.218.92.239 (talk) 09:29, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Substituted at 15:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: Why is Fareed not a featured Indian American?  He is certainly the most prominent and visible Indian working in mainstream media.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.151.115 (talk) 16:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fareed Zakaria 

message: The following reference mentions that Indian Americans have been in what is now the United States since before the American Revolutionary War:
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Hope this reference is useful to active users here. G'day! --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Indian Americans 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Infobox ethnicity representatives.  RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:29, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image discussion 

message: Should the section Immigration and progression timeline be in the history section?
If there is no opposition by 18 May 2013, I will be boldy making it a subsection of history.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immigration and progression timeline 

message: I doubt that.  Can some one please verify. ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.7.202 (talk) 11:41, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A recent study shows that 23% of Indian business school graduates take a job in United States" ?

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message: Although not stated in the article, one can read about Indian-American communities going back a century (1915?) in California, centered in San Joaquin (Stockton and Lodi), Sutter (Yuba City-Marysville), San Gabriel Valley from Alhambra to West Covina near Los Angeles, and Imperial counties (a.k.a the Imperial Valley). The small but evident Indian immigrants were processed in Angel Island off San Francisco, but came regulations of all Asians in the 1920s which lasted until the 1965 Immigration Reform Act ended racial restrictions. The first arrivals (see Punjabi American) were from the Punjab region (now states) in British India (now India and Pakistan), consists of Hindus, Muslims and some Sikhs (the US' oldest Hindu and Sikh temples can be found in Stockton and Yuba City areas), under farm labor contracts to work in farmlands in these areas. Over time, the mostly male farm workers found local Hispanic/Mexican-American women to marry and have children with (see Punjabi Mexican American). 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:1FA:3A88:955:CACC (talk) 07:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: There is a clear mathematical error in Section 5.1 Education:  "39.1% of all Taiwanese in the United States possess a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is nearly four times the national average[53][54] compared with 40% of Indians who have a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is five times the national average.[47][48]"
If 39.1% is nearly (i.e., less than) 4x the national average, then 40% can clearly not be 5x the national average.  Assuming that the primary sources are accurately cited, either the information from at least one of the primary sources is incorrect, or the statistic in question (i.e., "the national average") is not defined in the same manner across the primary sources.
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message: Sri Lankans in Canada, Europe, South-East Asia, and Australia usually "merge" with the Indian community to the point that a lot of them don't identify as "Sri Lankan". 
The "Sri Lankan Tamils" only really exists for political reasons relating to Tamil politics on the island, and is predominantly used by first generationers with direct interests in the country. The second generation usually merge with Indians/Hindus - in contrast to Pakistanis and often Bangladeshis. I would think that this needed to be pointed out.
I notice that they have similarly high economic status too: $73,856 for Sri Lankans. Lankandude2017 (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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message: Why is Kamala Harris identified in this article as an Indian-American? Her mother may be Indian, but her father is Afro-Jamaican and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy. She also clearly self-identifies as African-American rather than Indian-American. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/kamala-harris-embraces-exclusive-blackness-at-the-expense-of-her-indian-heritage 
So I'd suggest removing her mention from this article. Nobody identifies Obama as Scots-Irish American because of his mother's ethnicity. You are either one or the other. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so I'll leave it to others for reaching a consensus and doing the needful. Joyson Konkani 07:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: - what's your basis for this claim? Do you have a source? As a mixed-race person, I find that claim rather interesting. Guettarda (talk) 22:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:   Isn't this supposed to be general knowledge? That's how things are globally. Why? Because of patriarchy! We take our fathers surname, and so we assume his ethnicity as well. This is why Obama is seen as "black" and not "Scots-Irish". Your paternal lineage defines what you are. That's the general custom, barring exceptions like Jews and Tuaregs. I will leave it to others to arrive at a consensus on whether to remove mention of Kamala Harris from this page. On my part, I'm against her inclusion. Joyson Konkani 03:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Again, you're making assertions without evidence. That's not the way it works in immigrant societies in particular. Obama isn't a good example anyway - white identities aren't really available to non-white people in America. Lenny Kravitz would a good counter-example - he's African American despite having a white father. Guettarda (talk) 14:32, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, it's a norm you learn about just by being alive. Lenny Kravitz's dad is an Ashkenazi Jew, and Jews are a rare exception to the norm, as according to Halakha, the Jewish identity is considered passed through the mother. I'm not pressing this further. I've made my case and position clear. I'll leave it to the others to have a consensus. Joyson Konkani 15:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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message: I've noticed for the last few months, there have been factual inaccuracies in the infobox's language list. The top three listed in the sources addressed are Hindi, Gujarati, and Punjabi. It would be superfluous to list every single included in the source, so the top three should be the primary ones to include. There is large percent decrease between 3 (Punjabi) and 4 (Telegu), so the top 3 is the best to suffice. Please don't include your own language just because you want to. This is a list of languages prominently spoken among Indian Americans; it is based on the languages spoken in America, not what is common in India. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 02:29, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but a number of readers seem offended by the short list which does not reflect the diversity of Indians in the US. Let us embrace diversity and show respect to all languages. Per Languages of the United States, I am going to add Bengali, Punjabi (which was replaced by Telugu), Tamil, and Urdu, and alphabetize the list rather than making it a popularity contest. In fact, an anonymous editor already added Tamil despite instructions to the contrary. Personally, I know some Tamils. I don't want to fight a Tamil guy. 2600:1015:B06E:9C96:58B8:76A9:C9AE:5BFC (talk) 05:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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message: Is there a source for the claim that Subbarow was denied tenure at Harvard for being 'foreign'?
That's not mentioned on his page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellapragada_Subbarow
It's also not mentioned in this biography: https://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378-6323;year=2017;volume=83;issue=6;spage=733;epage=735;aulast=Bharti
It just says he was "denied a regular position" ; nothing about being 'Foreign.'  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.31.57 (talk) 20:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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message: The link used, https://www.pewforum.org/2012/07/19/asian-americans-a-mosaic-of-faiths-overview/, shows a different tally than the graph in the section on religion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.216.213.197 (talk) 19:24, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The religious composition is incorrect 

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message: The United States enslaved Indian Americans for hundreds of years starting possibly as early as 1632 and continuing until the 1800s. Although most Indian Americans today are not descendants of these slaves, it would be beneficial to have this information in the lead of the article to give an accurate summary of Indian Americans and their history. Could the following be added:
Indian Americans have a long history in the United States, going back to when they were slaves in the U.S. starting in the 17th century.
:If you are going to summarize their history on the lead, you should recap the main points of their history, the slavery of Asian Indians in the US forms a minor part of their history and it would be inaccurate to only mention that part of their history in the lead. Chariotrider555 (talk) 04:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request of adding slavery to intro 

message: Is it "Indian American" or "Indian-American"? The article should be consistent on this. There are 9 instances of "Indian-American" and 99 instances of "Indian American" including the title, so I assume the latter is correct. Cstanford.math (talk) 01:38, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I went forward with this change and removed hyphenated instances for stylistic consistency. Caleb Stanford (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyphen?