Talk:The Wicker Man

message: I find it a bit of a stretch that Summerisle (a sizeable community with numerous houses, a school etc) could have been inspired by the Summer Isles off NW Scotland when those islands are essentially a handful of rocky islets with a couple of cottages and a population in single figures.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.134.170.155 (talk) 20:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Shows the distinction between inspiration and derivation, I suppose. It's only inspired by it's name and rough location, now derived from it. ToaneeM (talk) 11:42, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See Scilly Isles. The islands have a noticeably warmer climate than the rest of the UK.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.50.207 (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Summerisle

message: I put back in the bit about Howie being something of a prude...is there any doubt about that? Ellsworth 22:49, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Prude

message: Iron Maiden and Judas Priest both made a song called "The Wicker Man" (I don't know who was covering who.)
Is this referencing this movie?
:Don't know about the Judas Priest song, but the Maiden "Wicker Man" is certainly inspired by the film -- as usual for the band, the song is probably just suggested by the title of a movie or book they liked than a direct reference to the story.  (Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, Lord of the Flies, Prisoner, Quest for Fire, Out of the Silent Planet, Run Silent Run Deep, Phantom of the Opera, From Here to Eternity, are all other examples) Sandrough 23:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Song inspiration

message: Dropped:
:The burning of the wicker man at the end of the movie is cited to be a possible inspiration for the Burning Man festival based in Nevada.
Burning Man's founder debunks this here. Ellsworth 16:45, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Burning Man myth

message: what exactly is a prude i may be somewhat misinformed
-anon.
:Prude - "A person who is or tries to be excessively proper, especially one who is easily offended by matters of a sexual nature." Ellsworth 01:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm extremely reluctant to use the word 1) because it's bedly overused 2) because it's a crappy word in general, because the Puritans themselves were not puritanical. Anyway it looks like the consensus is to leave out any characterization of Howey's scruples in that regard. Ellsworth 15:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Prude

message: I've suggested a merge into this page of the soundtrack page: The Wicker Man (soundtrack).  I discussed it in the talk page over there and was interested in people's opinion about moving that page into a section on this one. --Thetriangleguy 18:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a sensible merge to me. I've added the "mergefrom" template to this article's page to encourage discussion. KarlBunker 18:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just went ahead with that merge.  It seemed silly to me that an article on film which is essentially a musical, barely mentioned the music!  --Thetriangleguy 20:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work. The article is much better for the change. KarlBunker 20:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Soundtrack merge suggestion

message: I've reverted back a version after "profane" removal, which contained comment "how so?".  The reason I originally included the word was to differentiate between the two versions as explained on the Sumer Is Icumen In entry.  I felt that it was a relevant piece of information given the context of its use in the film.  --Thetriangleguy 20:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact that article uses the term 'secular' to differentiate from the 'sacred' (ie Christian) version. --Nantonos 01:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Profane" explanation

message: Should the article mention the Wicker Man Festival held in SW Scotland each year. The film is a definate inspirtaion for the music festival? --82.163.67.47 13:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Wicker Man festival

message: Who's up for creating a section about bands who have been inspired (or covered "Willow's song"). We already list Iron Maiden twice!--Siokaos 06:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: I added the cleanup tag.  This article is a little disjointed and I think could use some cleanup; feel free to disagree. :) -Elizabennet 21:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I've uploaded some real posters, not the wooden Anchor Bay box art, which I'll update the page with. One is (so far's I know) the UK release poster, another the US re-release, another some hokie Warner Bros. one I'd never seen before. Any idea what it is? 
I'm going to upload some screenshots, too, but only add maybe one or two to the synopsis. If you search on my contributions today, you ought to see all the images. David Spalding ta!k y@wp/Contribs 20:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New posters, new screen shots 

message: The synopsis is now in the middle of the bit that described it's production and problematic release. This breaks the flow horribly. Jooler 01:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I based that structure (Production - Synopsis - Reaction - blah blah blah) based on a couple of other film pages. If you can point to a WP:MOS page about film pages, we can conform to it. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 02:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Found what I was lookin' for. I'll make the structure more in keeping with the Wikiproject Films style guide. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 04:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: broken flow

message: I would like to add a locations section for this film, would that be appropriate?Belbo Casaubon 19:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Locations

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wickermansoundtrack.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:The Wicker Man US.jpg

message: Some people want to axe trivia sections in wikipedia.  I disagree.  See Wikipedia talk:Avoid trivia sections, but I think that the section here is too long. 
* Cultural References: First of all, I don't know what general wiki feelings are about cultural references sections, but it seems to me that the cultural references could be pulled out and and seperated from other trivia.  It seems like there are an awful lot of those here (too many, I think), so THESE SHOULD BE CULLED, BUT NOT CUT OUT ENTIRELY.  The Wickerman music Festival should be kept.  Not all of the references to songs need to be kept.
* Location of shooting: MOVE TO MAIN ARTICLE  Charred stumps of Wickerman remain, visited by fans: DELETE OR KEEP IN TRIVIA SECTION
* Nude body doulble used for Eckland (without her knowledge): KEEP IN TRIVIA BUT MAKE MORE CONCISE
* Places in script which draw from Walt Whitman and Sir Walter Raleigh: KEEP IN TRIVIA SECTION, DEFINITELY WORTHWHILE
*etc etc
Pigkeeper 21:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section too long, needs edit 

message: The first paragraph says that the film is featured in Bravo's top 100 scariest movie scenes, but doesn't specify which scene took the prize (I'm guessing the scene with the, um, wicker man) - I think we should say which one it is: thoughts? -Elizabennet | talk 01:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scariest 100 Scenes 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support, but only because of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films). While the original is now a highly respected and award-winning film, the later one is a pallid remake which has been widely panned and will (hopefully) be forgotten 35 years from now. Any similarity in page hits can be attributed to "recentism". Llamasharmafarmerdrama (talk) 10:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Is there any connection between The Wicker Man and a film called Nothing But the Night? They were both filmed around the same time (1972), in a similar or identical location (remote Scottish island), both were about a missing girl, and both starred Christopher Lee (but the latter also had a Peter Cushing cameo and the girl who grew up to be Cassandra in Only Fools and Horses). TharkunColl (talk) 11:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nothing But the Night

message: The caption on this photo should be changed.  The photo shows the fingers burning as if they are themselves candles, and the caption states that the film portrays magical practices such as this authentically.  However, the depiction in the photo is inauthentic.  According the the Wikipedia article on the Hand of Glory, the preserved hand of a deceased criminal is used as a candle holder, perhaps by curling the fingers around the candlestick, and many period illustrations show a candle affixed to the outstretched palm.  No account of the folklore or actual use of the device suggests that the entire hand is a candle or that the fingers are replaced by candles shaped to look like fingers.  Ipso facto, the depiction in the photo (and therefore the film) is inauthentic.  However, I am at a loss to know what to replace the caption with.  Perhaps a description of the scene in the photo would be more appropriate. 71.200.140.35 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: seeing as its in the production section, but is irrelevant to that topic, and that the caption is incorrect, and that it's not exactly Fair Use to have as many film screenshots as the article currently has... I'll remove it. Perhaps there's a behind-the-scenes photo out there somewhere? Totnesmartin (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree, there are probably many other production stills which can be used to illustrate the somewhat authentic depiction of pagan practices. As this example isn't as potent, removal makes sense. Thanks. -- David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 20:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hand of glory photo caption 

message: 'Howie finds himself powerfully attracted to Willow, the sexually liberated daughter of the landlord (played with sinister campness by the mime artist Lindsay Kemp, otherwise famous for having taught David Bowie and Marc Bolan).'
However both the cast section of this page and Lindsay's own page say that she actually played Alder MacGregor and Willow was played by Britt Ekland. .
Anyone able to shed some light on this or make an appropriate correction?  GideonJones (talk) 06:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the line actually means (although it is written a bit confusingly) that the landlord was played by Lindsay Kemp, not that Willow was. I'm not entirely sure that the bracketed section is even necessary in that sentence?  Certainly the bit about teaching David Bowie and Marc Bolan isn't relevant to the plot or even the film in my opinion. sjwk (talk) 23:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Lindsay Kemp is a bloke, and played Alder MacGregor, the landlord. Britt Ekland played Willow MacGregor, the landlord's daughter. ðarkuncoll 11:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion with cast? 

message: Should not attention be drawn to the pun (intentional I assume?) with 'wicca'? Alf Heben (talk) 09:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no pun.  See wicker man. DonQuixote (talk) 12:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  title 

message: This is entirely POV, which is why I place it here on the discussion page instead of in the article. Possibly more people remember and add to that, though. In the late seventies (ca. 1979/1980) I visited London together with my brother and went into a late night double feature of The Wicker Man and a second horror movie. We both still clearly remember this night because among other things we almost got shut out of our hotel for being too late, and also due the impact that movie made on both of us.
It is maintained here and on another site that the entire (complete) copy of the movie was lost prior to 1979/80, indeed was even used as landfill. This cannot be true, as both my brother and I very clearly remember seeing a movie much longer than even the current restored extended version, by which I mean INCLUDING many scenes of Woodward and Lee in a greenhouse and huge walk-in fridge, Lee slicing an apple for Woodward to taste, walking the gardens with him, a long monologue by Lee about the apples, Woodward witnessing quite a few more scenes in the village, Woodward tailed by Lee on the mainland, Lee jogging with his face and hair hidden, tieing a shoelace watching Woodward about to embark on the plane, etc. etc.. I am convinced that what we saw that late fall in London was an entire copy of the original movie without any lacking scenes at all. This however means that someone somewhere actually has at least this one complete copy of the movie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.246.43.249 (talk) 12:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions 

message: The article mentions that scenes at the castle were filmed in February 1972, but the rest was filmed in October. But what year? Would that be 1971 or 1972 - I'm guessing 1971 since they wanted to make it in the Spring (which they could have done if it's October 1972), but if it's October 1971 - how come the film took so long to be released (December 1973)? Either way, the year needs to be specified and perhaps a reason for the delay if anyone knows?--Tuzapicabit (talk) 14:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Having had a look again, I'm thinking it must have been October 1972 since the film is set in April and May 1973 (a calendar is clearly shown). Still it would be good to have clarification of which October it was filmed in?--Tuzapicabit (talk) 09:55, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Having got the book, filming is definitely Oct 72 (with some shots in late summer 72). I will add more details as I get further in.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 10:59, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming 

message: I recall skimming through a print copy of either US Tax Cases or Memorandum Decisions - more likely the latter - and finding a decision denying a tax writeoff for the 1973 film's losses, on the ground that the film's producers could never reasonably have expected to make a profit from it. http://www.ustaxcourt.gov/UstcInOp/asp/HistoricOptions.asp online only goes back to 9/25/95, but if anyone has access to a university law school library, they should easily be able to find either a print or a commercial website copy of this decision. Milkunderwood (talk) 04:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia: US Tax Court 

message: Described in the lede as a 'Musical' Horror film. OK, so there's a couple of catchy numbers but there's no way this could be thus described. Is This is Spinal Tap a musical? --82.41.20.198 (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "This Is Spinal Tap is an American 1984 rock and roll musical mockumentary directed by Rob Reiner" Charlr6 (talk) 21:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree - "musical" means a specific film genre with its own, often rather artificial and contrived, vocabulary. The term "musical" does not apply to this film. There are sections of the film which contain a limited amount of singing, and dancing, but that does not make the film a "musical". The scenes with singing are always done in a realistic context. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical? 

message: It was a toad, not a frog, that was used to "treat" a sore throat.
It was the innkeeper who said the photo was broken, not some "landlord's daughter".
:I think you are right about the innkeeper, but wrong about the frog. Fixed. TwoTwoHello (talk) 23:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of corrections 

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message: Finally got around to updating the final paragraph in the Music section, removing unclear, unsourced claims and clarifying the origin of the music that makes up the soundtrack.  I especially objected to the claim that the songs in the film 'were not actual cult songs used by pagans'. An encyclopaedia should not define things by what they aren't, unless it is especially relevant; which in this case it is not. The claim is spurious at best and wildly inaccurate at worst. As the new source shows, the 'pagan' songs used in the film are based on collected folk songs, many of which are believed to date back to pagan times. As such, the 'authenticity' of the songs is very much up for debate, and to my knowledge there is no relevant research into the matter to call upon to make that claim one way or the other. As it stands I have clarified the section by simply explaining the writing process, leaving out all the unnecessary speculation, which has no place in an encyclopaedic article.Telenarn (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

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message: Please see Talk:Don't Look Now#Initial release as a double bill with The Wicker Man?.  --woodensuperman 15:12, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date contradiction at ''[[Don't Look Now]]'' 

message: There is a "original research" flag against this song.
Listening to the song, as played on the soundtrack, and the citated YouTube video, and referring to the original music, as would have been used by Burns, I feel that a second reference to the original music could be referred here, so that researchers could compare themselves as to the differences. 2A00:23C5:4CE2:CE01:2958:E11A:D706:DBBD (talk) 17:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corn Riggs