Talk:The Ten Commandments (1956 film)

message: Is it really necessary to use dashes instead of o's here? Should we rename God to G-d? I've temporarily changed them; if there is disagreement, I'm happy to discuss. Jonathan Christensen 15:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Me, too. I hadn't noticed that dash-ification of the diety ... wonder when it snuck in? - DavidWBrooks 16:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probbly was me. G-d is a Jewish way of writting God so you don't have to write God to not abuse the referance God when speaking about God or something like that. I go back and forth. Doesn't matter which it is for this article really. SF2K1 20:25, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In my day, "G-d" was a "polite" way of referring to a curse, along the lines of "S.O.B." or "the F-word" or whatever. "God" is an English word that is used to mean either a deity in general or, when captialized, as the "name" of "the" Deity, but it is not God's "real" name, nohow. It's not much different from using "Adonai". I'm not saying you're wrong about the Jewish usage, just that it's not mainstream. Wahkeenah 12:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: G-d?

message: I noticed that there's a disparity on the topic of the placement of The Ten Commandments in terms of highest grossing movies of all time.  The article says it's 5th when adjusted for inflation, making $838,000 when adjusted for inflation, but by wikipedia's own list of highest grossing films, this puts it in 26th place in the "adjusted for inflation" list.  I don't know which fact is the correct one.
Go back and look again. I think you've lost a zero or three. 70.189.74.104 00:04, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Place in Highest Grossing Films

message: Does ABC still continue to air the movie once a year around Passover / Easter?  I remember they used to show the film at least once a year around this time, but I thought in recent years they stopped doing that.
JesseG
::Yes, there was a time......when the only way you could see a film that had already "run" was waiting for it to come on television (and hoping that it would). If you lived in a large city with a "revival house" that showed old films, you could hope to see it there. "The Ten Commandments" was usually shown around Passover/Easter, and "King of Kings" around Christmas, and "The Wizard of Oz" around Thanksgiving, and "It's a Wonderful Life" also around Christmas. Now, everyone has his "Collector's Edition" DVD's, and can watch it in sensurround whenever he wants to...LOL  How the world has changed... 66.108.105.21 20:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Airing

message: in the categories at the bottom of the page, this is listed as a Christian film.  I have to disagree.  The story, while common to several religions, is classically a Jewish story.  The film is even classified on the Talk Page as a Jewish film.  should we change the category then?  151.202.37.184 02:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  It has nothing to do with Christianity per se, except to the extent that Christianity still acknowledges the Old Testament as a sacred text, and the ten commandments form the basis of the Christian commandments.  But that is also true for Judaism and Islam.  Just because it gets dragged out for broadcast on TV at Easter, does not make it a Christian story any more than "Dolly Parton's Smoky Mountain Christmas" makes Dolly Parton an important part of the Christmas message. --  JackofOz 11:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: miscategorized?

message: In the movie, Moses, is surprised as an adult to discover that he's a Hebrew and not an Egyptian prince at all.  While it's not explicit in the book of Exodus, there's no epiphany moment and it seems fairly obvious that Moses knows his heritage -- the first episode of his adult life relayed is his murder of the overseer who was abusing his countrymen.  In fact, since his own mother was retained as his wet nurse, he was probably aware of his heritage from childhood!  Is my reading off base here? --Jfruh (talk) 03:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another error?

message: Why was the title of this page changed? I can find no discussion about this, and I strongly object this change. A title like "The Ten Commandments (film)" appears to suggest that this is the one and only film of that title, but as becomes apparent from the article, this was only a remake of the 1923 film. Do see The Ten Commandments (1923 film). I am interested in learning:
* an explanation of this change
* more opinions
It is a bit strange that "The Ten Commandments (film)" was a redirect and not the disambiguation page that it should have been since 20 November 2005, which is the date the second article was made. Can the titlechanger, or anyone else who cares enough, please change it back and make a beginning with the writing of that disambiguation page at "The Ten Commandments (film)"? I think it should look something like
The Ten Commandments (film) may refer to:
* The Ten Commandments (1923 film), a silent movie about Moses by Cecil B. DeMille in 1923.
* The Ten Commandments (1956 film), a big budget movie about Moses by Cecil B. DeMille in 1956.

Thank you in advance, 83.116.155.133 23:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page moved to disambiguation page

message: The 5th paragraph in the "Differences from the Bible" section should be a separate section on its own, since it does not really have anything to do with the Bible. Erudil 17:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences from the Bible - and Other Differences

message: Hey there, I just heard that (some version of?) The Ten Commandments has a well-known introduction delivered by the director himself... Is this true? And if so, what were the words (or better yet, any video clip found online?) BTW I heard this because the Sodenbergh film "Schizopolis" apparently parodies it by having him appear before the film saying "If you don't understand this movie, the problem is with YOU, not with the movie..." 199.214.27.209 19:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember his words, but it's certainly been there every time I've ever seen the film - and that would be about 20 times.  He comes out from behind a curtain on a theatre stage, and says whatever it was he says.  --  JackofOz 07:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: CBDM's introductory comments?

message: This section is totally  inappropriate and uncalled for.  I'm sorry but just because the movie credits the character of Seti I with the victory over the Hittites and later shows him dying after a long reign does not mean that Sir Cedric Hardwicke's character is "really" Rameses II or that Yul Brynner is "really" playing Merenptah.  It just means that the writers took facts from the life of one person and ascribed them to another.
Also, the actual result of the battle of Kadesh wouldn't have mattered to the Egyptians.  They had no ethical tradition requiring them to record history accurately.  That way of thinking came a thousand years later with Herodotus.  To view the walls of Egyptian temples, one would think they won every battle they ever faught.  What is even more interesting is that for some battles we have accounts from both sides and both sides claimed to have won an overwhelming victory!  At Kadesh, Egyptian accounts credit Rameses II (yeah, ok, it was
Rameses, not Seti) with holding off the entire Hittite army, singlehanded with bow and arrow, from his chariot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beetfarm Louie (talk • contribs) 03:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problematic Pharaoh identifications?

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message: If the cast is uncredited, where do these actor names come from?  Also, I find it strange / odd / bizarre / highly implausible that all of the uncredited cast members have last names that begin with the letter "A" or "B".  That can't possibly be?  Is this some incomplete list that someone started with the "A" and "B" actor surnames, and never completed?  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncredited cast

message: At the time that Moses was discovered in a basket, it was during Ramses I's reign (father of Sethi I & grandfather of Ramses II). GoodDay (talk) 21:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Baby Moses

message: From the article: "There are many differences between the movie story line and the Exodus story as traditionally understood from the Bible. According to the commentary in the DVD, some details are taken from sources such as Josephus, the Sepher ha-Yashar, and the Chronicle of Moses, as well as the Qur'an. Some are fictional inventions."
How about a source?  Which bits of the Qur'an were used, as an example?  --MicahBrwn (talk) 17:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources of DeMille's screenplay

message: As a movie history buff I am interested in the massive sets used in this film - especially the city gates in the as the people left Pharoah.
1) Were these stone?
2) Where were the built?
3) Is there anything left today to visit?
Regards  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MSgtUSAFret (talk • contribs) 17:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie Sets

message: Some of the items in the Trivia section are largely redundant with items in the Differences from the Bible section. Can the trivia items be deleted? Dcwaterboy (talk) 20:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia deletions?

message: What role did James Coburn play in this film? I see him in all the cash listing, but never with a role next to his name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.185.206 (talk) 04:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen it at least 10 times, and he most certainly did not play any kind of speaking role.  He may have played a very minor non-speaking role, but if so, it doesn't appear in his IMdB profile. --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  13:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: His wiki article says his first part was in 1959, but he would he have been over thirty, so possible he was an extra, if he had a speaking part or even a noticeable non-speaking one, he would have been recognizable at 26-28. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 05:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Is James Coburn in this film?

message: Mlpearc MESSAGE 06:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: GOCE

message: In the article it states that Sephora breaks the fourth wall when looking at the camera for a couple of seconds with an "oh please" look - I'm not sure this is without doubt breaking the fourth wall, it doesn't come across to me as her acknowledging an existence outside of the film, and what's an "oh please" look anyway? To me "oh please" sounds like it's a sarcastic eye roll. BulbaThor (talk) 12:54, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Breaking the fourth wall trivia

message: In Cecil B. De Mille's introductory comments, he says the film is 3 hours and thirty-nine minutes long, "with one intermission". That is 219 minutes. However, the article states the running time as being 231 minutes. This seems to be wrong, so unless somebody comes up with a suitable explanation for this discrepancy, I'll change it in the article. MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 21:23, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Running time 

message: I edited the text to further describe Sethi's heartbreaking decision to exile Moses from Egypt.  In the film, he does admit that he still loves Moses as he's dying.  I don't know.  Maybe there is no reason to elaborate any further.  I appreciate the person who reverted the content back didn't give me a verbal thrashing.  I understand that the wording is sufficient for this article and is best left alone.Maddux0817 (talk) 05:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The plot is already twice the length recommended at WP:FILMPLOT. By all means edit away, but it would be gratefully appreciated if you could take the word count in the other direction. Betty Logan (talk) 06:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Apologies 

message: From The Pervert's Guide to Cinema, I understood that there is a prologue in which Cecil B DeMille talks to the audience warning against communism. 
Is it so?
I don't remember it but maybe I lost the beginning.
--Error (talk) 23:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-Communism  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It seems that the section of the article about Television broadcast was modified (the changes appear in this version of the article, and its following one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Ten_Commandments_(1956_film)&direction=next&oldid=748119488) to add some information about broadcast in the Philippines. This addition to the article has no sources and it is badly redacted. This section should be revised, in my opinion.
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thread_title:  Added information about television broadcast of film in the Philippines 

message: I've always wondered why Yochebed was renamed Yoshebel for this film. Is that from Josephus or the Midrash or other sources? PurpleChez (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yoshebel  

message: Has anyone noticed the astonishing resemblance of Yul Brynner to the face of Tutankhamun on the famous gold funerary mask?  O Murr (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yul Brynner and Tutankhamun 

message: Why is there no courthouse controversy section?
The Wall Street Journal states the following about the movie in connection with courthouses:
"Thanks to an alliance between the Hollywood producer and a juvenile-court judge from St. Cloud, Minn., as many as 4,000 Ten Commandments monoliths were erected in public spaces across the country, for the dual purpose of promoting the 1956 epic and instructing the citizenry in behavior acceptable to God."https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB987543322785247205
Considering this was a major undertaking for the promotion of the film, it seems relevant to the movie. Am I wrong?
TheGreatAndHighExaltedStoic (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  No The Ten Commandments Courthouse Controversy Section 

message: Once again  has added excessive plot detail despite me specifically requesting that he refrains from doing so. WP:FILMPLOT stipulates that plot summaries should be between 400 and 700 words. Their purpose is to briefly summarise the plot, not to give a blow-by-blow account. If you think there are extenuating circumstances for extending the plot by this magnitude then please discuss them here rather than constantly reverting. Betty Logan (talk) 12:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot bloat