Talk:October Project

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message: The recent changes made to this article by an anonymous editor (15 July 2007) were primarily in an effort to redefine October Project's status from that of a "band" with "members" to that of a "team" with "participants."  This may have arisen from the editor's appreciation of the importance of OP's songwriting team to the band's trajectory (the editor has posted no explanation), but the changes DO NOT accurately describe the legitimate relationship of the band members, and further, the usage of such teminology is anomylous in band literature and ultimately misleading.
Of the six individuals who comprised the original lineup of OP, five of them set their names and signatures to a series of agreements that bound them together as a band. Like so many major-label bands before them, they signed a contract with their manager, a contract with their record label, a contract with their merchandise supplier, a contract with their music publisher, and together had an understanding among themselves. They rehearsed, performed and traveled together for the seven years they were a unit. It is absolutely unsupportable to to describe OP in other than the STANDARD terms thereto appertaining.
The editor's efforts to conform the article to this unfortunate usage has rendered some sentences nearly nonsensical, such as the last sentence of "History," paragraph 2. Similarly, it is also unnecessary to refer to opening acts as "special guests," or to sidemen as "guest participants."
The inclusion of several other edits of questionable rationality (listed below) lead to the necessity of an UNDO.
(1) The band's name is October Project, not "The October Project." It is rendered as such on all their official releases and promotional materials. This is a common mistake, similar to the mistake of adding "The" to the band called Talking Heads.
(2) October Project has never been referred to as "the Project," nor has its music been categorized as a "folk" derivative.
(3) Belica's solo project is called Decembergirl (one word).
(4) Punctuation marks were added within the double-bracketted internal hyperlinks, rendering the links inoperable. They had to be removed.
(5) Finally, terms such as "fell apart" and "now reduced" are on the verge of BIAS and suggest lack of neutral POV.
MezzoForte 23:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  October Project's Status as a Band -- UNDO of Misguided Edit 

message: Several edits (dated 1-4-08 and 2-25-08) were made to the “Subsequent developments” section of this article by the same anonymous editor, adding information that is clearly speculative in nature. The reasons for the present re-edit are outlined below:
(1) The question of whether or not November Project’s unreleased full-length album was considered by all of the band members to be “completed” has never been addressed in verifiable source material. Because it is quite possible (although also unverified) that the staus of that album might have counted among the band’s “artistic differences,” any insinuation of the album’s completeness would be biased. The only fact here is that the album was never released.
(2) Both the extent and nature of the funding of November Project’s unreleased album has never been addressed in verifiable source material.
(3) Conjecture as to the current status of October Project, its official website, or its “upcoming album,” whether negative (as it is in this case) or positive, is not within the proper function of an objective article, nor within Wikipedia’s NPOV guidelines.
(4) Announcing the possible reissue of Falling Farther In is essentially a promotional statement. Additionally it is not clear whether the album was ever formally discontinued by Epic — its current unavailability on iTunes would not necessarily suggest such a discontinuance.
MezzoForte (talk) 00:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculative Content Edit