Talk:Israel national football team

message: Since the Palestine national team of 1934 and 1938 represented Palestine/Eretz Israel, and NOT the entity the current Palestine national team represents, its info should be on this page, NOT at Palestine national football team. Just because the name is the same, doesn't mean its the same entity; neither FIFA nor Israel Football Association (founded and affliated to FIFA in 1928) think so as well. User:Dryazan
"Palestine/Eretz Israel" is not the same entity as "Israel" either. Why shouldn't it get its own article? - Mustafaa 09:40, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not change such things without discussing them. The Palestine/Eretz Israel achievements must be attributed to the Israeli national team. First of all, the  Palestine/Eretz Israel FA is now the Israeli FA. Secondly, all the teams which played for the Palestine/Eretz Israel FA league joined the Israeli league. Thirdly, most if not all players for the Palestine/Eretz Israel national team joined the Israeli national team. Also Palestine is a new entity which did not exist after 1948. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 16:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1934 and 1938

message: why did israel play in 3 continents?
how could they host asian cup? were the arab teams playing there?
:Israel played in Asia (its real location) till we got kicked out by the Arab countries who did not like to play against Israel. Obviously we can't play in Oceania, America or Africa so in 1992 we finally got accepted to UEFA.
::Is there any evidence to back up that the Israel national team participated in qualifying matches in South America or Oceania? If not, I'd suggest deleting this from the first para. Crix 17:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isreal played in OFC qualifying a number of times, including 1970, 1974, 1978, 1986, and 1990.  In 1990, they played a 2-game CONMEBOL/OFC play-off home and away with Columbia. --Brian G 17:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, playing in Colombia does not mean that they are suddenly part of CONMEBOL. As for OFC, I also found 1990 FIFA World Cup (qualification OFC), where it says that Taiwan and Israel were "assigned to the Oceanian zone despite not being OFC members". At least the way the article is worded makes it very confusing "... before settling in Europe as a member of UEFA". Even as member of UEFA you can end up having to play against an AFC team or etc, depending on the circumstances. I would strongly rewording the article, but only after someone more knowledgeable assures us that Israel was never a member of OFC or CONMEBOL. I do think that they were only part of the AFC and then later part of the UEFA (since 1994). As for Africa, according to 1934 FIFA World Cup (qualification), Egypt, Palestine and Turkey (which withdrew later) were the only members of group 12 Africa/Asia, and neither the AFC (1954) nor the CAF (1957) were in existence yet. Very complicated indeed, since qualifications for the world cups were done differently in different times. While nowadays a national association *has* to be a member of a continental federation, this was not the case earlier. But still playing in Africa might be valid, as might be Oceania (albeit for policial reasons), and Asia (as a member of AFC) and Europe (as a member of UEFA). South America is clearly not on the same footing, since it was merely a playoff match. I'm not sure now how to best reword this... Crix 18:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm sorry, I don't think that anyone implied that they were ever a member of CONMEBOL, but that year OFC (0.5) and CONMEBOL (3.5) shared a qualifying spot and they did play a match on the South American continent as a result.  It was not "merely" a playoff, the winner (Columbia) won its spot that way.  I think that the article is OK as written in this area, since it says that they participated in 4 different continents, not in 4 different confederations. --Brian G 18:57, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Point well taken. However I still maintain that the wording and punctuation is confusing, if I have time, I will think about rewording this. Also, shouldn't it be five continents instead of four? Furthermore, I am aware of the importance of playoff matches for the world cup qualification, but I still find it specious to count South America just because of one playoff match. Crix 03:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't object to removing some confusion.  I think that maybe the problem stems from it being the lead sentence in the article.  Perhaps if it were moved down in the article (like to the History section) and explaned more there? --Brian G 12:01, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why in 3 Continents? 

message: It's a bit premature to name him as coach from 2006 when it's still 2005... Avraham Grant is still officially the coach, he didn't resign with immediate effect but announced he will not seek an extension of his contract that is due to expire in June 2006.
Another minor correction... the draw which eliminated Israel from the Olympic Games in 1968 wasn't done by a coin toss. It was done by pulling notes out of a hat.
--Nitsansh 05:12, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dror Kashtan wasn't appointed as national coach yet 

message: Never heard about that...--Nitsansh 01:31, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither have I. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 17:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't it be Holy XI? Dancarney 18:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be nothing, we have no nickname ⌠Yellow up⌡ 22:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, if it existed it would have to be Holy XI. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.52.154.205 (talk) 18:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Israeli team is known as the Blue and Whites, that Holy XI nickname was reverded 4.5 years ago so its misleading info.-- HonorTheKing (talk) 01:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname - the Holy IX??? 

message: Can someone please research and correct the list of Top Capped Players vs. what shows in the infobox?  I can't find a proper source in English.  Perhaps someone who is fluent could get it from a website in Hebrew? --Brian G 20:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know for a fact they top capped players are Benado and Harazi. According to he: they have 89 caps. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 22:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Excellent.  Thanks for the update. --Brian G 00:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caps 

message: Here is the source of March squad.  Matthew_hk tc 11:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Squad

message: I wonder whether the unicolour dresses are correct, because the German page on the topic has white shorts with blue shirts and blue shorts with white shirts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.52.154.205 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dresses 

message: I found a minor inconsistency in the Euro 2008 Qualification section.
In the match against Estonia, the result was given as 0-1, with the home team first. But in the matches against FYR Macedonia and Andorra, the results are given as 2-1 and 2-0, although Israel was the away team.
I decided to be bold, and changed the Estonia result so that all results are given with Israel first. If the other policy is preferred - home team first - please feel free to change results accordingly. The Legend of Julie Egbert 23:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency. 

message: Not an important event? Reaper7 18:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have expanded the paragraph a bit and tried to clarify why IFA joined UEFA. BestEditorEver 20:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: well done, more complete article now Reaper7 13:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! BestEditorEver 10:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Israel played against Colombia in inter-continental playoff as winner of Oceania zone qualifying tournament.--Nitsansh (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not much on why and how UEFA let Israel join their ranks 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Israel football association new.jpg

message: I removed the broken patterns from kits. It had the text "File:Kit body israel home10" over the kit images. I didn't know how to fix it properly. Judging from Brazil national football team, they have the pattern "_bra08h" and there's this corresponding image , but the Israeli images are missing:  and . --JamesBrownJr (talk) 19:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Iv'e put the kit that the national team is wearing this season.-- HonorTheKing (talk) 02:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken kit patterns 

message: I was unaware of this page's existence when I created my page, and by comparing the two, i think it is unfair to dismiss  History of the Israel national football team. it has a lot of info tat is missed out here. I think a redirect was a rash move and a merge is more appropriate.--Coin945 (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There probably is content that could be merged there, but considering the terrible state, badly translated and entirely unsourced, this article was in I feel a redirect was justified, and a best the thing to do would be to expand the main article from the hebrew version properly using real translation not a machine--Jac16888Talk 15:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough... :)--Coin945 (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

text: So do you intend to do any cleaning up of it? Besides, as I already said, the article is a mess because it was machine translated, and would be better off being rewritten from scratch and used to expand this page. Not to mention the fact that technically its a copyright violation since it was copied from the Hebrew wikipedia with has no attribution --Jac16888Talk 11:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Did everyone then forget this? History of the Israel national football team was tagged  back in April 2011, but as far as I can see, not posted on Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. Some people have made some of that article intelligible, especially the earlier parts, but the latter parts are still gobbledygook and there are still no citations. What do you want to happen? --Stfg (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As to the clean up, I was unaware that there is a cat of Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. I did the clean up of the lead and the first section on pre-state history.  When I have the time I'd like to get to the rest but such is the nature of non-urgent volunteer work. As to the citations, Stfg is correct that there are no citations.  As the information is in no way harmful, is NPOV, and is most probably correct, even though it is currently without sources, I would just tagged it as unsourced rather than delete the info. Thoughts? Joe407 (talk) 14:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  does populate a category, but if you look at its message box, you'll see it also asks the tagger to subst something into the translation requests page. The tagger seems to have forgotten to do that. I would have done it today, but there are other options and I didn't know what you want. The options I can see are: make it a redirect (losing content); merge (keeping some content); keep and improve, if you can figure out what it's saying; or request translation. The Hebrew article is much bigger. I think the rosette symbol at its top may mean it's a featured article. Translation isn't necessarily the only good course, since the citations are in Hebrew and there may be a long wait for an available translator. The only thing is, if translation isn't wanted, it would be good to remove the tag so that someone doesn't waste their time. --Stfg (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced it's really NPOV, since its tags include fansite, peacock and weasel, but I'm not much interested in pushing this. I've removed the  tag now, though. We should only be asking translators to do what would be a very substantial amount of work if we really want it. --Stfg (talk) 20:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, restore the redirect, the damn thing is still a terrible and unsourced mess--Jac16888 Talk 14:00, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from [[History of the Israel national football team]] 

message: So this is in Category:Association football clubs established in 1928. Why? Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 11:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the national team a club? 

message: Anyone, I dunno a lot about Israel's FIFA rankings, so I cannot edit it, but SOMEBODY but their FIFA Ranking to 4999 and said they gone down by 5000, What the hell?!, somebody needs to fix that Mahdi Akhtar (talk) 16:14, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I think the statistics, head to head needs splitting off to another page. Govvy (talk) 11:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another page? 

message: I ask the administrators of Wikipedia to include this article in the list of articles that are edited only by those who have Wikipedia accounts because from time to time the article is being vandalized by adding "Last international" as if it were a non-existent team. Wikipedia should not be used for nationalist rhetoric, but for encyclopedias and information. I hope I am not wrong and I hope that my edits in this article are not wrong. ManiacOfSport (talk) 16:14, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Stop trying to force your POV on this article. Just leave. Stop edit warring on subjects you know nothing about. 109.66.23.126 (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Statistics include official FIFA-recognised matches only. Read the notes as they will explain why FIFA's records differs from that of the IFA. Felixsv7 (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  you can revert your Statistics back. Just noticed your sources are okay. 109.66.23.126 (talk) 18:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  As far as I saw you are new to Wikipedia and do not know some rules that I hope you will learn, I have years as with account as without account that I deal and contribute to sports I am not focused on a national team as you say, I edit where I see that there is no update for the issue I raised is that the only thing I asked is not to add "Last international" as this serves only for national teams that do not exist. , I returned your editing about the statistics which had reverted by the editor without account. ManiacOfSport (talk) 22:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-Vandalism 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Hi ,
Just letting you know why I reverted your changes.
The use of current competitions on national team pages was discussed here but there hasn't been any advocacy for its inclusion as the information is readily available in other sections of the article.
Also, the images that you moved are relevant to the Records section therefore I've placed them there, whereas the picture with the teammates and the '64 Asian Cup is not. 
Why do you believe that your edits are an improvement? 
Cheers,
Felixsv7 (talk) 08:06, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Competitions - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/National teams]] 

message: There is an undefined note in the article, causing a cite error. The definition of it can be found in the main article Israel national football team results (2020–present).
The first instance of:

should be replaced by:

Thanks ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 10:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: — LauritzT (talk) 10:42, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 10:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite error 

message: the history is a little harsh to read as it jumps back and forth with the dates and arbitrary titles are used. imo a history ordered by time, with headings like from 1948 - xxx and so on, ease the reading flow.  --ThurnerRupert (talk) 05:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  order the history by years 

message: This other team is also a "dead" one for decades, so we already agreed upon that mentioning it more than once (the first ever outcome) here is more than enough.
Either way, it is already on display with the rest of the outcomes in a similar Infobox on its own Wiki article (Mandatory Palestine national football team).
So please refrain from breaking the WP:3RR rule again.
Keep in mind that any editor should always acknowledge the Talk page and seek to engage in discussion instead of a never-ending edit warring, anonymous IP User:45.50.164.192, is that fine with you? 2A0D:6FC0:1FAB:F300:D002:893F:8487:1D20 (talk) 01:07, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plese do not engage in edit warring over international outcomes of another national team  

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Parc des Princes Paris *** 77.137.78.148 (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qualification Euro 2024  Israel - Suisse et Israel -Roumnie  

message: Qualification as l euro 2024 
15/11/23 Israel - Suisse 
18/11/23 Isrel - Roumania  77.137.78.148 (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parc des Prince  Paris *** 

message: 77.137.74.38 (talk) 08:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 15:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2023 

message: Can you add the Nations League matches against Italy, France, and Belgium? All times and dates have been announced. You can add the current note that is in place for all Israel matches. 
 47.153.148.108 (talk) 22:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  UEFA Nations League A matches 

message: Since Israel lost to Iceland, they have a friendly against Bosnia and Herzegovina since they lost to Ukraine. Match will take place on 26 March. Please add when you can. 
 47.153.148.108 (talk) 22:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel Friendly 26 March against Bosnia and Herzegovina 

message: Can you add this match in?
 47.153.148.108 (talk) 03:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel match with Belarus