Talk:Carl Værnet

message: Does anyone have a better photo of Vaernet? The one here is rather horrible. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 08:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Per the request on WP:3O I have come here to try and resolve this dispute.  There are three important things to note here:
#The definition of Homophobia - "an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality, homosexuals, or individuals perceived as homosexual."
#The inclusion category of the disputed category - "articles that discuss or refer to the topic of homophobia. It does not imply that the subjects of any biographical articles are homophobic... for issues relating to homophobia, including organizations or individuals that are particularly noted for being involved in the subject of homophobia."
#Wikipedia guidelines on categorization - "Categories are for defining characteristics, and should be specific, neutral, inclusive and follow certain conventions."
Given the two definitions, I believe we have a very close call here.  From point number 2, clearly it doesn't matter whether Vaernet was personally homophobic.  Now is the desire to "cure homosexuality" inherently within the definition of homophobia defined in  point #1?  I would probably say no, although I am sure some people would say yes.
In regards to point number three, Vaernet is currently in :Category:Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust which is a distinguished subcategory of :Category:Homophobia.  By rule "If category B is a distinguished subcategory of category A, then pages belonging to category B are placed directly into category A if otherwise appropriate."  So the question is: is it otherwise appropriate?  Considering, that not a single item is in both "Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany..." & "Homophobia", I would say the precedent is that no, it is not appropriate.
In conclusion, I see no reason to override the existing precedent given that it could reasonably be argued that Vaernet's actions weren't inherently homophobic and would recommend against the extra category being added. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. I will keep an eye on this page in case further discussion is desired. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi.  Could you explain how the whole "distinguished subcategory" system works or at least point me to where I can read it on my own? Alec Fischer (talk) 02:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: All the details are in Wikipedia:Categorization, but in short a category is distinguished if it is not part of a systematic break down of categories. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Your comment is out of the line of discussion indeed. I suppose you disagree with this. But I do not', in no way, want to go in to this. And I didn't even say I agree with that link (just to make sure you really won't have what to continue this comment with). Debresser (talk) 15:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: Dr Vaernet ran a medical practice. I doubt that in "the late 1930s" this would have "waned due to the dubious quality of his research, and also because he was considered a collaborator in his native country". Patients are rarely interested in the research work or politics of their GP's. Being a Danish Nazi in the 1930's could not be regarded as being a 'collaborator'. There is also a contradiction in implying both that the decline of his practice occurred despite joining the Nazi party, and also because of it.101.98.175.68 (talk) 06:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decline of medical practise 

message: What does "an operation with an artificial gland" mean. Inserting an artificial testes perhaps?
Why say that "there is no evidence that any of the inmates were castrated". Did anyone suggest that some were?
He did medical research. To say that the "Danish authorities wanted to press charges of his SS involvement", is both bad English and factually incorrect.
Did he feign heart trouble and escape, or feign heart trouble and get released? The latter seems more likely.101.98.175.68 (talk) 05:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of clarity 

message: I have done a large overhaul of the page. I think I was pretty careful, but other editors should double check things. Zenomonoz (talk) 22:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul