Talk:Woodland Critter Christmas

message: I removed the following bullet point:
* In the blood orgy scene celebrating Porcupiny's pregnancy and the death of the Mountain Lion, the critters sacrifice Rabbitty. This is in reference to a rabbit test where after confirming a pregnancy, "the rabbit dies".
It's interesting, but I doubt the TV show is referencing that. The creators also don't mention it on the commentary or in the episode.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.48.37 (talk) 01:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Rabbit Pregnancy

message: I fail to see how the bit that "God would never have sex with a porcupine" should link to zoophilia. Firstly, while Christians might find it in poor taste, the idea that God impregnated Mary through intercourse is a common idea, hence I feel it should link to the article on immaculate conception. Secondly, the subject here is God, who's supposed to be the creator of all things and is not a human, and so I fail to see how such a thing is a reference to zoophilia. Personally, I feel that the "sex with a porcupine" bit is a subtle crack at hirsute women, implying that Mary was not. I'm sure there are people out there that find such references to be in poor taste, but then, those same people probably wouldn't enjoy South Park lest they be hypocrits.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.254.181.174 (talk) 09:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Immaculate Conception

message: I've removed the line under "Cultural references" that refers to a blood-red moon. The celestial body in question appears toward the end of the episode, and is explicitly identified as "a new star in the sky". If you look closely, you can see that it is an upside-down star inside a circle, a common Satanic symbol. -Juansmith (talk) 09:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Blood-red moon" Biblical reference

message: "This is the first episode Kyle dies (though it was just in Cartman's story)."
Would the episode Grey Dawn count as another part where Kyle, "dies," even though it was just Cartman's plan to stopping the old people count? I mean if this episode counts towards a death to Kyle even though it was just in a story, wouldn't a plan count as well?     MoonSoo 07:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Kyle's, "death." 

message: I've noticed the same dramatic brass flourish used not only in several South Park episodes (including this one), but in a few commercials as well (one of them a recent Aflac ad, IIRC).  I have a feeling this might be a case of several different projects using the same public domain sound/musical effect.
In any case, I'm pretty sure the HL track itself is not used in the episode, so I'm removing the corresponding entry from the trivia section. NighTrekr 19:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like somebody put it back. For what it's worth, this is almost certainly what's meant by the Elder Scrolls entry as well. It seems a fair bet that the "Adrenaline Horror" reference would've been intentional, but the TES "reference" is certainly a stretch. I'll leave it be, though. --Edwin Herdman 04:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Half-Life "reference"

message: In Cultural References, "The lion being killed and later resurrected is similar to Aslan in The Chronicles of Narnia."
But to me it seems any similarity is only accidental. The only similarity I see is that the lion is on a stone (like Aslan was, in the movie). But, the dissimilarities are: (1) in Chronicles of Narnia, Aslan resurrects on his own—i.e. "resurrects", not "resurrected"; (2) Aslan is a male lion with manes, not a mother lion; (3) Aslan is resurrected before the bulk of the action (i.e. the battle with the witch), not after.
Unless there's a strong evidence that the creators meant to reference Chronicles of Narnia (in which case, I don't think they did a good job), I think it should be removed.
:As far as I recall Arslan is simply the word for Lion in Turkish. There are possibly many lion characters with that name. 84.75.17.5 (talk) 23:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aslan? 

message: Cite then return to the main article;
* The character designs of the woodland critters is meant to spoof the overly cute look of animals from the stop motion Rankin/Bass holiday specials of the 1960s and 1970s. 
* When Cartman goes to continue reading his Christmas story, there is the sound of a book opening, the same sound clip used in both the Baldur's Gate, and the Elder Scrolls series.
* Initially the animals claim Porcupiny was a virgin when the Savior was conceived; later they claim Satan had sex with her to conceive the Antichrist. They also refer to the conception as "immaculate", confusing the Immaculate Conception of Mary with Jesus' Virgin Birth.
* According to the South Park commentary with Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the blood orgy is a reference to the science fiction film Event Horizon.
* The scene where the mountain lion falls off the cliff resembles a similar scene in The Lion King.
* When the animals use their Satanic powers, "Ave Satani" ("Hail Satan," the theme song to The Omen) plays in the background.
* When Santa Claus draws a shotgun and begins firing on the critters, the music of "Adrenaline Horror" from the Half-Life soundtrack plays briefly.
* When Stan is watching TV, The Jeffersons theme song is playing.
Alastairward (talk) 14:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited material