Talk:Pink Fairies

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I hope this does not mean that copyright is being claimed on this article in any way. If so, it needs to be rewritten. Notinasnaid 12:02, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, I thought the Pinks were anarchists, seems a bit odd to be concerned about copyright if one doesn't believe in the ownership of property, intellectual property is especially anti-anarchist. I release all my contributions to the public domain, like a good anarchist should. Alun 17:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In my experience it's always the anarchists who want to control everything :) Wwwhatsup 19:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my experience that applies only to communists and capitalists. Alun 19:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: === Martin Stone & Stiff ===
The article says Martin joined in the Stiff era, but I think I remember him in there earlier, I could very well be wrong. What I do recall is he was playing in the 101ers in June of 76 - I happened to go and see him with them at a pub on Fulham Broadway which I think was their last show. Obviously he was one connection to Jake Riviera who was just starting Stiff, and was also tapping Lazza as a producer. In the early days Stiff didn't have distribution (except for Bizarre) and was run on a shoestring. My perception was that Nick Lowe's "So It Goes" and The Damned's "New Rose" were both slow to take off so, in fact, it was only by cashing in on the pent up demand for the more established PF, re-inforced by the Barker pic-sleeve, that they were able to solve cash flow problems that would've sunk them right there - and also pay Larry to do more..  All pure OR and POV but possibly fact. Books have been written about Stiff, there must be something in them.  Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As mentioned in the first para of the history section the PF were preceded by the Pink Fairies Drinking and Motorcycle Club or whatever, so named by Jamie Mandelkau, which was more a gang than a band, with one shambolic show to their name. The only thing in common between the two acts is the name and Twink. Twink was very much taken with fairy imagery, and indeed, had much earlier been involved with a band called The Fairies so, since Mandelkau was a best pal of Rudolph it was natural to continue with the name, however it must be emphasized that there was a discontinuity between the two acts, and the whole point was to make a new band transcendent of Farren . Nevertheless Farren was instrumental in that it was he was he who persuaded Seymour Stein to finance the Think Pink album which was in essence the basis of the band's formation.  As far as Farren goes he was preoccupied during the early years of the band with his roles as editor of International Times, running the UK end of the White Panther Party, being taken to court for obscenity, and doing some writing. He also had a falling out with Twink. It was only when his pal Larry Wallis became the musical leader that Farren again became close. He DID have an important peripheral role, first as the catalyst that brought together the core as The Deviants, and later as a leader of the British Underground, including using his media influence to position them as a 'people's band'. I do think that that para could well be rewritten to commence with the PFD&MC and then move on to through Think Pink, the USA trip, and Mona to the eventual formation of PF mark 1. If you want to know more about the band I recommend getting the book. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

text: As I also said on the Shagrat talk page, Twink is notorious for claiming credit for stuff he did not do and the claims he made re.  Pink Jackets Required are one of the most infamous examples of this.  Take no notice of his fibs. 84.111.73.31 (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Various members & their histories w/ the band

message: The article says Martin joined in the Stiff era, but I think I remember him in there earlier, I could very well be wrong. What I do recall is he was playing in the 101ers in June of 76 - I happened to go and see him with them at a pub on Fulham Broadway which I think was their last show. Obviously he was one connection to Jake Riviera who was just starting Stiff, and was also tapping Lazza as a producer. In the early days Stiff didn't have distribution (except for Bizarre) and was run on a shoestring. My perception was that Nick Lowe's "So It Goes" and The Damned's "New Rose" were both slow to take off so, in fact, it was only by cashing in on the pent up demand for the more established PF, re-inforced by the Barker pic-sleeve, that they were able to solve cash flow problems that would've sunk them right there - and also pay Larry to do more..  All pure OR and POV but possibly fact. Books have been written about Stiff, there must be something in them.  Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Martin Stone & Stiff 

message: If I remember correctly, the liner notes for one of the early Pink Fairies compilation albums (Flashback I believe) said that the founding members were Mick Farren, Steve Peregrine Took, and Twink, with Farren leaving almost immediately. (I lost the album in Katrina, so I am doing this from memory). Farren also wrote the liner notes for the comeback album Kill 'em and Eat 'em. This article makes it sound as though Farren has only a peripheral role in the band, and that was not my impression at all. Shocking Blue (talk) 12:24, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As mentioned in the first para of the history section the PF were preceded by the Pink Fairies Drinking and Motorcycle Club or whatever, so named by Jamie Mandelkau, which was more a gang than a band, with one shambolic show to their name. The only thing in common between the two acts is the name and Twink. Twink was very much taken with fairy imagery, and indeed, had much earlier been involved with a band called The Fairies so, since Mandelkau was a best pal of Rudolph it was natural to continue with the name, however it must be emphasized that there was a discontinuity between the two acts, and the whole point was to make a new band transcendent of Farren . Nevertheless Farren was instrumental in that it was he was he who persuaded Seymour Stein to finance the Think Pink album which was in essence the basis of the band's formation.  As far as Farren goes he was preoccupied during the early years of the band with his roles as editor of International Times, running the UK end of the White Panther Party, being taken to court for obscenity, and doing some writing. He also had a falling out with Twink. It was only when his pal Larry Wallis became the musical leader that Farren again became close. He DID have an important peripheral role, first as the catalyst that brought together the core as The Deviants, and later as a leader of the British Underground, including using his media influence to position them as a 'people's band'. I do think that that para could well be rewritten to commence with the PFD&MC and then move on to through Think Pink, the USA trip, and Mona to the eventual formation of PF mark 1. If you want to know more about the band I recommend getting the book. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding Members 

message: As I noted earlier in the Talk section for the Shagrat article, the liner notes for an early retrospective album for the Pink Fairies that I own say that Mick Farren is the one who left immediately, not Twink. The 2001 CD Pink Jackets Required is credited to Shagrat and is the joint work of Took and Twink according to Allmusic:  http://www.allmusic.com/album/pink-jackets-required-mw0000368754 .
Shocking Blue (talk) 09:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As I also said on the Shagrat talk page, Twink is notorious for claiming credit for stuff he did not do and the claims he made re.  Pink Jackets Required are one of the most infamous examples of this.  Take no notice of his fibs. 84.111.73.31 (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shagrat Reference 

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