Talk:Gary Nairn

message: In an article in The Age on 13 September 2007, Katharine Murphy wrote "Mr Nairn is a former leader of the Northern Territory Liberals who is now Mr Howard's Special Minister of State".  I've checked but can find no confirmation he was ever involved in NT politics, or has ever even lived in the NT.  Is this just a journalistic stuff-up?  --  JackofOz 03:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a stuffup. He certainly wasn't ever a parliamentarian in the Northern Territory (we've got a complete list of its members back to self-government), which makes it a bit hard for him to have to been party leader. It's conceivable that he could have been CLP (not "Northern Territory Liberals") party president or something similar, but in the absence of a less vague source, I'd cut it out. It's just a guess, but I wonder if she might have Nairn confused with Shane Stone or Gary Humphries. Rebecca 03:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't imagine how she'd confuse Gary Nairn with Shane Stone (who's never been a Federal politician).  Gary Humphries is getting warmer, but even there, he was Chief Minister of the ACT, not just "leader of the [ACT] Liberals".  I'll put it down to Melburnian indifference to and ignorance of matters relating to Canberra and her environs.   Thanks.  --  JackofOz 03:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: No morons around here, just uninformed and misinformed people - that includes me :)  Thanks for the update, Rebecca.  I've found a cite and added it to the article.  Cheers.  (Oh, and apologies to Katharine Murphy, without whom we wouldn't have this in Nairn's article.) --  JackofOz 07:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Territory Liberals

message: I added the entry "Mr Nairn has voted 23 times for the controversial "Workchoices" legislation, which many believe has disadvantaged working families."  The moderator has removed that entry with the explanation "Since Mr Nairn is a Liberal, it is not surprising that he did so."  This is political censorship, attempting to remove an embarrassing but true comment. Readers are entitled to know how Mr Nairn voted, regardless of his affiliations, and removing that is partisan political censorship. BogongMoth 01:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not regard my edits to the wikipedia as partisan.  It would take the most unintelligent reader to presume that Nairn voted other than with his party on Work Choices.  In fact it would be noteworthy if he did not.  I think the rest of my edits on this article, eg providing formatting for references for less than complimentary Nairn facts suggests that I am other than partisan.  Furthermore another editor has also reverted the change, indicating thereby that she agrees with my reversion.--Golden Wattle  talk 02:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it is not censorship in my view.  The addition is nonsensical.  It would only make sense if it was against the party line as per your example of Joyce who is noted for that behaviour.  I will escalate the issue to the Aus politics noticeboard for an extra pair of eyes--Golden Wattle  talk 04:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It isn't encyclopaedic to say somebody has followed the party line each time they do so - this is an encyclopaedia not a soapbox.  A second opinion has again confimed my reversion.  On wikipedia we have a three revert rule - you will be blocked if you change the article back again within 24 hours - see WP:3RR--Golden Wattle  talk 05:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying that a party politican voted for his party's policy in Australia is not interesting and non-encyclopedic (not even close).--Grahamec 00:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partisan censorship 

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