Talk:Asian fetish/Archive 4

message: "Supporters of the "Asian fetish" theory see these cases as clear evidence of the harmfulness of what they see as a serious social problem. But critics question whether or not this annecdotal evidence really shows a pervasive societal trend."
Man thank god for the unnamed critics. I'd like to see what these critics actually say (if they even exist) and I'd like an explanation to their theory of whats going on....
But as mentioned above by other people, this must be some random occurances that is totally detached from the fact that these people are Asian and female. I mean, anti-semitism is really just random inccidents where people hate others who happen to coincidentally be Jewish.SillyAlgebraist 07:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: So long as these "Critics" remain ever so mysterious they will not appear on the article.SillyAlgebraist 03:25, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Critics"

message: Finally, there is the criticism that the attraction to Asian women is a minor aesthetic preference of no real consequence, no different from finding blondes or brunettes attractive. --Comentary by user 80.190.250.139 - moved here from the article.
: This very well could be the case, and several registered users have brought it up at this talk page in the past.  I don't see any harm done in having it there. --Idont Havaname 23:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Commentary moved from article

message: "Finally, there is the criticism that the attraction to Asian women is a minor aesthetic preference of no real consequence, no different from finding blondes or brunettes attractive."
There is a huge difference. If asians did not have children with each other there would be no asian people. If a white man prefers blondes or brunettes within the white race the children still end up being white. See the difference?
To put it in prespective. Imagine all white men preferred asian women. It would equate to genocide of asian people. That's the difference.
I also find it funny that 99% of the people who promote this idea are white. Is this not true Wikipedia? That's why this comment should not be deleted.
::Nobody's gonna delete your comment or anyone else's.  I'm personally glad that you put that comment there, as it provides a good illustration of just how bigotted and paranoid (at least some of) the pro-"Asian fetish" theory people are.  As the years go by, and more and more people travel and move throughout the world, there pobably will continue to be fewer and fewer people of one race, but I don't know that this is a bad thing.  In spite of what all the "pure white race" people say, most white people are pretty mixed as it is, given Europe's proximity and trade with Africa and the Middle East over the past millenia.  Geneticists generally believe that this is the reason why white people have more variability in traits like eye color and hair color and texture than most other peoples.  And most people today in Latin America, Northern Africa, the Middle East, and India are already very much mixed.  East Asian countries like Korea and Japan are actually notable for the homogeneity of their populations.  If all white men prefered Asian women, would just as many Asian women reciporcate their preferences?  Even if every white man were able to married an Asian woman, there would still be more Asian women who weren't with white men, given the huge population differential (China alone has more than four times as many people as the United States and Canada combined).  So the whole talk about "genocide of asian people" is absurd!  Blackcats 05:36, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As an asian male, i don't have a problem w/ white male/asian female relationships. I'm just bothered by white guys think only exclusively of asian females, hence the term fetish.68.223.123.163 15:09, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: For those that argue there is nothing wrong with asian fetish

message: While I did note "and/or" in the sections, and many supporters of the theory do indeed seem to view inter-racial relationships as very sinister (one here even compared it with "genocide"), the wording was long and akward, and it seems like everyone here was wanting that removed.  So I've changed the titles again...  Blackcats 09:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the user who talked about "Genocide" is any more reflective of the diversity of opinion on this issue any more than a white supremecist is reflective of how white people in general view minorities.  You will always have extremists for every issue but that doesn't mean their views are indicative of the whole.  And to title the links section in such a way as to assume that would have been wrong.  Not all liberals are "hippie-pot-smoking-liberals" and not all conservatives are "cigar-chomping fat old men", so why attempt to classify people who believe that Asian Fetishism exists in that same manner?   OneViewHere 23:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: More on external links sections

message: I added a paragraph to this section regarding the concept of the "unmotivated Asian-White" romance, which is a prevalent stereotype in many Hollywood films where the Asian Female character instantly falls in love with the white male character at first sight.  I still need to add a section to better explain how it ties into Asian Fetishism and how that engenders a belief that Asian women are approachable and willing sex partners for westerners.  I also don't know how to create hyperlinks of the movies to other Wikipedia articles, -if articles on those movies referenced do exist.  Let me know what you folks think. The complete text of what I added goes like this:
In "Daughter of the Dragon," the daughter of Fu Manchu lays her eyes on a British detective and instantly falls in love with him. "The Bounty" and "Come See the Paradise" also contain scenes where an Asian woman falls in love with a white man at first sight. The repetition of this conceit sends the signal that Asian women are romantically attracted to white men because they are white . It insinuates that whiteness is inherently more important than any other romantic quality and inherently more appealing than any other skin color. 
OneViewHere 23:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You can link to another article by enclosing the word or phrase in . Like Fu Manchu (edit this page to see how). Also I see a lot of discussion here about how the theory could be better elaborated in the article, but comparatively little about how it can explain the thinking of those who criticize it. I think even those who passionately believe that Asian Fetish is damaging Asian-Americans should still want to have the best arguments of the theory's critics included, because otherwise the article will always be accused of bias. Wikipedia just isn't an appropriate place to try to convince the general reader of a controversal theory or point of view, but that's the feeling I get from the article as written. External links, of course, can be anything at all. ThreeAnswers 12:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition made to section on Asian American Womanhood

message: I don't believe the article should be deleted, but I do believe an RfC is in order. It would go up at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Society and law --Wasabe3543 22:40, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC