Talk:Balintawak Eskrima

message: The title of the article is Balintawak, not Balintawak Self-Defense Club. Though the club existed, it shouldn't be teh focus of this article; if it's notable, perhaps it merits its own article. I don't think the first, bolded mention in the article on Balintawak should be of Balintawak Self-Defense Club. nor should it be the recurring reference. JJL (talk) 17:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balintawak vs. Balintawak Self-Defense Club 

message: The title of this article could more appropriately be titled "History of Balintawak Arnis" - Arnis Balintawak.
The sport is still in practice in many parts of the world.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxdriftwoodxx (talk • contribs) 04:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess what I'm really trying to say is that this article would be better with some information about modern Balintawak Xxdriftwoodxx (talk) 04:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History of...

message: Systematizing the curriculum
Bacon's successors soon began to systematize the Balintawak curriculum. One was a lawyer named Jose Villasin, who set about to group the style into its various categories so that his students could master one set of related techniques and then move onto the next set of related techniques and he also teach the "Traditional Balintawak System" the old method of Balintawak System to few of his chosen student. At this point, several distinct schools of Balintawak emerged. Many of Bacon’s Balintawak students and some of his and the Saavedra's Doce Pares students continued to teach in the old method of random instruction, while Villasin taught in his "grouping" style.[1]
Today, it may be concluded that the original Balintawak of Bacon is no longer taught, though there are a number of Balintawak groups that continue to teach their version of the system. Some instructors use a "grouping" method for teaching the techniques while others continue to teach single responses in the original way. The principles and concepts of Balintawak have, however, found their way into many different Filipino martial arts methods, most notably Balintawak student Remy Presas' Modern Arnis.[2]
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From the above I would admit I have not contributed and maybe out of order, I learned Balintawak from my Instructor Ted Buot, who was the only one to teach at Bacon's club on Balintawak Street when Bacon was not present or while, he was present. Bacon would walk in and take the stick from Ted and when he was done he would had the stick back to Ted and leave. Ted would continue to teach at that point. (* I have no sited source material. I have only the word of instructor my instructor which I have posted on forums and none of the different family branches have disagreed with. *)
My main question is that if Manong Ted learned from Manong Anciong and Manong Ted taught me the same way he learned it, and I teach it one on one as well does that not mean the art is still being taught in its' original format?  (* I have taught some single techniques in the seminar format, but I try to make it clear that the seminar format of learning is not the way I teach Balintawak as an Art. *) 
Or is the argument that Anciong is not alive to verify so it is not a mute point? 
Or is it that the Grouping systems have organizations and a larger following?
I am not trying to be argumentative, only asking a question. 
Thanks
Rich Parsons (talk) 18:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original form of Balintawak being taught - Question - discussion? 

message: Notable practitioners
Many Balintawak eskrimadors have become notable. These include Timoteo Maranga, Arnulfo Mongcal, Jose Villasin, Teodoro and Sam Buot, Teofilo Velez, and Bobby Taboada. They are be responsible for spreading Balintawak around the world. The two most prolific teachers of Balintawak were Villasin and Velez.
Some of the better-known current instructors are John Villasin (only son of Jose Villasin), Sam Buot, Sergio Arcel, Arturo Sanchez, Bobby Tabimina, Nick Elizar, , Chito, Monnie and Eddie Velez, Nene Gaabucayan, Bobby Taboada, Carlo Kaloy Campaña, Danilo Casio, Crispulo Atillo, Rich Parsons, Paul Janulis and Henry Jayme.
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First, Thanks to JJL, I believe for adding my name to the list. I am asking this question just to verify, I assume you removed Manong Ted Buot’s name as he is no longer practicing and as I am one of his students you have entered mine?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rich Parsons (talk • contribs) 18:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would not have removed Ted Buot (at least, not on purpose; editing errors happen)--he's still listed in the sidebar, for example. JJL (talk) 20:24, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Ted Buot from Notable Instructors 

message: Hi, I added GM Rico Carino of Balintawak Gold Gym in Cagayan de Oro City (Still actively teaching).  He's a contemporary of GM Nene Gaabucayan.  If you wish to verify his authenticity, you may contact GM Rico Carino at his landline number (08822)728287 or Cell# 09154358909.  I was one of GM Rico's students.
Engr. Mitchell L. Flores  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.16.53 (talk) 21:34, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balintawak Grand Master Rico Carino in Cagayan de Oro City 

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