Talk:Carlos Beltrán/Archive 1

message: I can't find any mention of him being the players with the smallest margin of at-bats between homeruns in baseball history anywhere in here, can somebody with the accurate number of at-bats between Homeruns add it, it is after all his most brilliant acomplishment. -Dark Dragon Flame 01:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playoff acomplishments 

message: There's all this stuff about how wonderful his 2006 season was. But when the season was on the line, and they needed him the most, he failed. He watched the season go by on strike 3. How is that "not notable"? Baseball Bugs 12:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read above. -凶 01:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did. It belongs. It was a dramatic moment that ended the Mets' season. Sports are about success and failure. It is a verifiable fact that he struck out looking to end the season. There's nothing "libious" (whatever that is) about pointing it out. McCovey ended the Giants' 1962 season with a line drive out, which is covered. Babe Ruth ended the Yankees 1926 season with a caught stealing, which is covered. And maybe this year Beltran will get the Big Bang and win it for the Mets, and that will also be notable. If the strikeout is not notable, why is "the catch" notable? Beltran's failure to swing the bat influenced the outcome of the game. "The catch" had no influence whatsoever on the outcome of the game... and it's the outcome of the game that matters, not the ESPN highlight reel. Baseball Bugs 01:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: That must be deleted before someone complains of "Fancruft". The article is suppsed to be an overview of his career not a list of What could have happened if Beltran... or did you see how great that catch was... -凶 01:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it "fancruft" to discuss McCovey and Ruth's failings as well as their successes? Are those failures "not notable"? I'm guessing you're just a Mets fan that can't stand being reminded of the fact that he stood there and watched the season go by when his team needed him the most. It's similar to the "M&M'S" of the Twins: Mauer, Morneau and Santana, who won the "trifecta" of awards last year... and it meant nothing, because the Twins flopped in the post-season. Winning is what matters. If the Indians had come back to win Game 1 and/or the Series in 1954, Mays' catch would mean nothing, just as Chavez's catch in last year's final NLCS game meant nothing. Baseball Bugs 02:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Again I couldn't care less for the Mets, his at bat and catch meant nothing, they were not siggnificant the Mets were already doomed, the only reason it was still there is because I haven't tackled the article to get it to Good Article, wich I am expecting to do after I am done with Héctor Lavoe, you can expect the same in Iván Rodríguez, Roberto Alomar, Mike Lowell, Felipe López and Javier Vázquez regarless of in what team they have played. --凶 02:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To say that his strikeout meant nothing is ridiculous... unless you think the outcome of the final game of the NLCS itself meant nothing. These guys are being paid big bucks (your bucks, if you go to games) to do something, not to do nothing. Baseball Bugs 02:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: In tonight's All-Star Game, Ichiro Suzuki stretched a triple into an inside the park home run. A little later, Beltran "shrank" a possible inside the park home run to a triple by failing to hustle at first, after the ball was hit. I'm detecting a trend here. Baseball Bugs 02:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Not notable?" 

message: Carlos Beltran was traded to the Giants.
Gtsting77 (talk) 05:22, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a statement in the article saying that they have reached a tentative agreement for the trade.  Is there a Reliable Source that says that the trade has finalized? Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Not yet: "A Mets source told ESPNNewYork.com's Adam Rubin the deal will be made official Thursday." —Bagumba (talk) 09:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Players with no-trade clauses cannot be traded for a period of 24 hours after a deal is reached.  It's a rule they put in place to protect the player from making a rash decision.  I believe Beltran is permitted to sign off on the trade sometime today or tonight. Kjscotte34 (talk) 10:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Gtsting77, 28 July 2011 

message: The former Manager of the New York Mets 209.191.13.243 (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:44, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2020