Talk:Portal (video game)/Archive 1

message: Are the references to the gun turrets sounding the same and the Combine balls appearing in the trailer really nessicary? I'm sure they were just there as placeholders (at least the combine balls, anyway, as sounds are more likely to be re-used) until the game's done. --AndrewNeo 14:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll probably have to wait and see. HL2 did reuse some music (and I think sound effects too) from HL1. If this is true, it would most likely link towards the "HL Universe Setting" just 1 topic up. --Gamer007 20:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personal opinion, but... I can't see them giving the gravity gun and the turrets a pretty white lick of paint if they were just placeholders. I'd leave them as they were. Also, it's not just a Combine ball, it also drops into one of those funky ball-grabbers from Episode One. --AiusEpsi 00:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Half-Life 2 References 

message: "Graphical improvements to the Source Engine are also easily identified in the Portal teaser trailer, most notable of which are enhanced motion blur and depth of field effects."
These same effects can be seen in Valve promotional videos as far back as the one they made for "Day of Defeat: Prelude to Victory." Their presence doesn't mean they'll be in the final product: a bit-tech article from December '05 explains, "Motion Blur and Depth of field will have to wait until hardware catches up, as current hardware is only capable of rendering each frame in the trailer in two seconds." --66.36.130.54 23:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graphical Improvements 

message: The splash screen states it's a very safe and healthy training env. One VERY big lie. The player could be crushed in the begining for example. Or be set to loop through the portal for an unlimited amount of time. Also, the voice states if you fail, the test will be terminated. Do you think what I think? Terminate test subject would I prefer.
Also, this appers to be a training video for a company. In one sequense (model of player falling to the ground) the text says that falling from heights can be fatal and is not recomended by Aperture, Inc. Any thoughts? Cybesystem 00:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, this takes place inside the Half-Life universe. The same universe where you are kindly told to report any time at which you feel you are exposed to hazardous chemicals, just as your train is passing over a huge pool of them. Do I have to go on about the safety and comfort present in Black Mesa? ^^ --King Nintendoid 17:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The voice eerily reminds me of the Black Mesa voice (even though I know it's not the same), telling you "serious" safety warnings with a definite satirical edge to them. Takua108 08:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Thoughts 

message: Well, that was quick. Download here. --Tom Edwards 14:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just a cheep rippoff. VALVe have upgraded the engine for portal, Gmod can never really use it. Also, the portals are smaller then them in the portal game. Finally, you never walk through the portals in gmod , they only teleport you. Cybesystem 13:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHH. its better than nothing. unless you want to create a new mod and edit the source.. source code and impliment such things while we wait for the real game? Marge4 01:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ASHPD for [[Garry's Mod]] 

message: Hey all, just sat down totally confused by the portal trailer
I managed to observe the following things in it, hope it helps you out with this page
Aperture Laboratories
Orientation Video no. 1
A SAFE AND HEALTHY WORK ENVIRONMENT
Aperture Science Enrichment Center
ASEC
Apeture Science Handheld Portal Device
ASHPD (Adrian Shephard maybe?)
Set on Earth - Door sign
There is a hole in the sky, through which things can fly (emphasis on sky)
Looks like gravity gun
Turrets act similar to those of combine, same noise
Character uses the gun as a graivty gun
Looks like a training environment - similar to the training in original HL games
Enrichment Center
'Highly motivated Test Subject'
'This next test is impossible'
Similar music to HL games, but evil
'Can carry out tests enduring the most extreme pain'
Everything feels 'futuristic'
Text mentions a legal team, saying that jumping off fataly high ledges is not reccomended.
:'Highly motivated Test Subject' Aren't there numerous references to the player's being a test subject in the original HL2? When you go through the portal as Shepherd and see Freeman you get the message "Evaluation terminated: Subject attempted to create a temporal paradox." --Thezeus18 03:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Everyone keeps saying emphasis on sky. THERE IS ALSO AN EMPHASIS ON FLY! It probably means nothing! Muffin Man 23 20:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The voice sounds computerish to me, if the "narrator" is a computer character any emphasis or not are irrelevant. 194.68.126.35 08:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Observations 

message: I'd like to point out two things.
1: I believe that in the trailer the facility is intentionaly spelt 'Aperture Labratories'
2: The Portal Gun is seen being used to grab things similar to the Gravity Gun in the trailer
Should these be included in the article?--Rim-Fire 23:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 2. There is no evidence that the gun can "suck" objects, nor "shooting", only catching. Or? Cybesystem 13:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 things 

message: In HL: Opposing Force, Adrian could acquire an item called Displacer that would shoot teleportation balls that would teleport enemies away before exploding. The secondary-fire would teleport Adrian(the player) to Xen (if on Earth) or to Earth(if in Xen). The item was clearly a Black Mesa prototype as schematics of the weapon can be seen in some levels as well as you can see a scientist (not the one you get the item from) in an inaccssible Xen area (one you go to with secondary fire) who apparently used the weapon.
Long story short, the reference to the Portal opening devices reminded me the displacer even before the Adrian Shephard's name thing. Anyone think there can be a further connection with OpFor?
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I think that the displacer in OpFor was a convenient (and tricksy) plot/game device. As Narbacular Drop came out afterwards, and unrelated to HL, i can only see that this is a slightly convoluted explanation, feasible as it is, we must remember that Portal was (probably) not originally planned, for Shephard or not. It's a matter of reshaping a sqaure peg into a round hole.
Oh, and before anyone asks, the Displacer was originally just a homage to the Doom BFG. Monchberter 22:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Displacer 

message: Stop all of your therories about "Portal = HL universe". Yes, it has been confirmed. But just because it's in the HL universe, it does NOT have to be shepard. Again, yes the portalguns name is close to his name, but think again. How did Adrian, a member of the military, get into a corp. training video? It might just be a scientist. 
We know almost nothing about this portal game. Set the therories on pause untill the game has comed out.
I know VALVe has some thoughts with this game. They won't tell us now. If MY therory is right, they won't untill EP3.
Connect the stories if you want. Analyse how much you want. But don't edit the article untill we all know for shore. And don't even bother to post them in this discussion because we all have diffrent therories.
Thank you, I hope.. see you again when EP2 is out.
Cybesystem 13:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop you'r therories 

message: I was just reading the G-Man (Half-Life) page, which talks about the G-Man using portals to leave areas (specifically here). I can't remember offhand, but does anyone know if the portals close? If so (ie. they are not permanent 'teleporter' devices, such as those in DOOM) it could be similar 'technology' to the game here. Just something to think about... –Dvandersluis 17:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The HL1 portals look nothing like the ones used in the trailer for Portal, though. HL1 portals are glowing orbs with no way to see through. Some close after being used (such as the G-Man's), others remain and have both an entrance and exit portal, forming close-range teleports. -- Jordi·✆ 08:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portals from ASHPD == G-Man's portals? 

message: I think the story section should be cut down, or at least modified to imply that nothing is actually known about the story, other than the fact that it is based in the Half Life world.
There is no reason to believe that the demo follows the exact storyline of the game (at the very least, there could be a change of announcer) and for all anybody knows Valve could have made a major change in the story line, e.g. it's not longer a training simulation but a test of skill etc.
Valve released the demo to introduce the concept of the game, and unless it is explicitly stated that the demo is of an actual in-game scenario, you should at least add some kind of statement to warn the reader that there has been no hard evidence whatsoever about the story. Something along the lines of "If the content of the demo Valve has released is to be believed to be representative of actual scenarios in the game..." would add a lot of credibility to this article.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  02:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Story

message: There is a video on portal from GC. Is it allowed to be posted here even though it's from Youtube? Or is it just official vids allowed to be posted on wikis. --Gamer007 23:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Leipzig Games Convention 2006

message: Maybe its Mossman Proyect???
or Maybe its some type of test to evaluate a human physicaly and psicologicaly by the Combine.....
Or maybe the G-man its trying to make Adrian an equal....... Thats the training.
:Don't post theories. Post information about the game.
::Or... Post them on my talk page. Muffin Man 23 08:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 Theories 

message: Everything you manage to get from the website, please put it here, so that the relevant information can be later included in the main article.
Here's something, from the website. It appears to be a command-line sort of thing, and after trying a buncha UNIX and MS-DOS commands and failing, I finally typed "help." Here's what showed up:
If this is an actual plea for help in response to a hazardous material spill, an explosion, a fire on your person, radiation poisoning, a choking gas of unknown origin, eye trauma resulting from the use of an emergency eye wash station on floors three, four, or eleven, an animal malfunction, or any other injurious experimental equipment failure, please remain at your workstation. A Crisis Response Team has already been mobilized to deliberate on a response to your crisis.If you need help accessing the system, please refer to your User Handbook.
It still seems to be a work-in-progress, for when I first clicked the link from the Wikipedia page, I got a MySQL error above the Flash app (it was in black, though, so you couldn't see it). Now it's gone. Hmm...I'll try some more stuff and report it here if I remember :P Takua108 22:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After logging in (any username, password should be obvious ;-) ) and filling out the entire application, you eventually get a "camera feed" of a certain room… and that's where the Flash app now ends. -- Jordi·✆ 03:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.aperturescience.com 

message: In an interview it was revealed that the lead character of Portal was female: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3153489 Thereby it is not A. Shepherd you control. This also means that the page needs updating. I know it's in conflict with previous video footage, but, eh, Valve are free to change their minds. -- Andrew McM 18:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, is the lead character necessarily the player character? --Thezeus18 04:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Female lead character

message: The Orientaion Video digrams remind of lost possibly a reference to the show or justa coincidence since is a orientaion video--Halokiller27 02:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, plus the web site has looks a lot like the command line in lost, the statement when you type THECAKEISALIE reminds me of lost, because they state "20 year old equipment" Roxanne Edits 01:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At the top of the website it says (c)1986. If they are saying 20 yrs old, that means Portal is set around 2006. That proves many theories correct... Muffin Man 23 11:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LOST 

message: don't worry about the questions they are for laughs as far as I can tell!
This really doesn't sound like the wording that should be used in an encyclopedia.  Can someone else rewrite this sentance? I would do it but i'm really hopeless at editing - Mickiscoole 11:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it all as it has little hope of becoming encyclopedic, but the rest of the section needs to be looked at. --Ortzinator 14:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Someone's been re-adding those commands every once in a while. Seems to be using Wikipedia as a 'sratchpad' for their investigations, or as a fansite. — Saxifrage ✎ 15:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.196.36.73 (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sentance rewrite

message: Should there be a section about the portal physics, describing the various situation that come up with the portal trailers and some implied ones/existing strategies in other portal oriented games (e.g. narbacular drop, exite, or the two way portal SWEP)?
Moshe Gordon 08:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal Physics 

message: I really don't think that the section under Criticism alleging ripping off Prey should be there. There is no citation, it's based off a game that predates Prey (and the original programmers are working on this title as well). Just seems like stupid fanboy speculation rather than informed criticism. Suggest removal unless a citation is made.
I removed it. Planetary 14:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prey Ripoff