Talk:Churchill (disambiguation)

message: Only recently did I become aware that there was a second author named Winston Churchill, and that he was American.
I believe that the list entry for him should be clearly separate not only from the British Churchill family on this page, but also all the others, and that the inclusion of birth & death dates for the two similarly named contemporaries, both born in the same decade, both of whom had military conections, both of whom entered politics (though the British Winston was enormously successful, the American Winston was quite unsuccessful), both of whom published multiple best-selling books (also admitting the disparity in success rates in this endeavor), will help readers understand why and how the American Winston's works are so frequently and easily mis-attributed to Sir Winston). I fully realize that it is not customary to have added space in the middle of a list. I don't think it looks very nice, either, but it does set the other Winston apart in a way that makes him noticeable - which is the whole point.
I am too much involved with other activities at this time to participate in a discussion here, so I hope, by providing my rationale, to avoid debate. I have no personal interest in the issue; I've never read anything by the American Churchill (although his novels that I've checked at Amazon have high ratings). My interest is merely in providing accurate and complete content for those who seek it.
--Tygerbryght 23:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening comment 

message: There seem to be some entries missing. In normal circumstances I'd just add them, but since I don't like having my work immediately reformatted, and I'm pretty sure that that is what would happen in this case, I'll just flag them up here.
* Churchill theatre
The family:
* Anyone descended from any Duke of Marlborough is part of the family.
* Anyone called "Spencer-Churchill" (search "intitle:Spencer-Churchill") is part of the family.
* Some of the family are listed at Viscount Churchill
* Lord Charles Spencer-Churchill (soldier) (given in the article under "Others") is part of the family.
Of the numerous missing members, some immediate ones are Sir Winston's children
* Diana Churchill
* Sarah Churchill that is, Sarah Tuchet-Jesson, Baroness Audley
* Mary Churchill
SamuelTheGhost (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree these should be added. The case for John Churchill, First Duke of Marlborough, in particular seems very strong, but probably the others as well. (For comparison, the Wellesley disambiguation page points to all the dukes of Wellington.) David Bofinger (talk) 13:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  No they shouldn't. They are covered by Churchill (surname) and Churchill (family). Clarityfiend (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing entries 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose. Traffic stats for August show 10K+ hits through "Churchill" and only 1600 hits to the disambiguation page. This indicates that the large majority of the readers who hit Churchill were not looking for any of the other topic but reached the correct primary topic, the target of the redirect. Moving the dab page will add one extra click for over 8000 readers in order to save a click for 1600. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:43, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: What is the origin of this surname? Badagnani (talk) 00:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of surname 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Early close per WP:SNOW but would reopen upon request.   (t · c) buidhe 18:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Churchill (disambiguation) →  – No clear primary topic for "Churchill" alone, the WW2 leader has 555,081 but the tank has 17,870[]. When I Google Churchill although there are more results for Winston the 1st result is the insurance company which to many people in England will also mean. There is also John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough and Winston Churchill (novelist) though these are probably known as plain "Churchill" less often and get less views[]. There are also a large number of places (of which in England the surname derives from) as well as Churchill, Manitoba which is known for bears. I think listing Winston at the top is sufficient for readers using only his last name since although he is sometimes called "Churchill" alone he is usually referred to by his full name except where the context is clear (such as wars/politics) while the company is always called "Churchill". Crouch, Swale (talk)  20:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I actually wouldn't go so far to say the latter, as any text describing him will probably spell out Winston. But, it's immaterial, as it's quite likely to also see text not introducing him at all or introducing him simply as 'Prime Minister Churchill' or similar, both of which strongly supports the status of primary topic. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 February 2021