Talk:Edward Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax

message: Before he was made Lord Irwin, I've generally seen him referenced as "E.F.L. Wood."  As such, wasn't the previous location (with the full name) more appropriate? john k 01:17, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think so.  However, I'm generally in favor of doing these kinds of moves, if only to simplify linking. Mackensen 01:19, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Title 

message: Is it possible that TWO 1st Earls with the same name did exist in history: (1) E.F.L. Wood and (2) "Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, KG, PC, FRS (16 April 1661–19 May 1715)", an English poet and statesman? And if so, how? 
--ECeDee 15:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's even more complicated than that. Have a look at Earl of Halifax! These titles are in the gift of the monarch and they revert to the crown if there aren't the correct heirs about (as in Montagu's case) so over long periods of time they can be given out again. And again. --Mr impossible 12:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FIRST Earl of H.? 

message: I don´t want to mess around with this piece because most of it reads very well, but this section seems grammatically wonky:
"In August 2008, under the freedom of information act the MI5 released documents revealing amateur diplomat James Lonsdale-Bryans attempts to foster a allegiance between Britain and Germany, and implicated Halifax as James Lonsdale-Bryans strongest proponent in Parliament."
Should this be:
"In August 2008, under the Freedom of Information Act the MI5 released documents revealing the attempts of James Lonsdale-Bryans to seek a peace treaty between Britain and Germany, and implicated Halifax as James Lonsdale-Bryans' strongest proponent in Parliament."
???
I'd like a response, because I don´t wish to intervene in a subject that i don´t know anything about (maybe that´s a bit deviant in wikipedia ...) Compromiso (talk) 00:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: German Alliance Pact documents 

message: The mosat significant political event, the death sentences of martyrs Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, and Rajguru has not even been bloody mentioned!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.170.35 (talk) 07:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most significant event 

message: "was born with a withered left arm with no hand, a disability that in no way affected his riding, hunting or shooting"? I'd think it would affect anyone, even if they found a way to overcome that (and how?).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurast (talk • contribs) 01:22, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He had an artificial hand with a spring-operated thumb.Paulturtle (talk) 18:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Cripple?

message: Some of the strongest condemnation of Lord Halifax isn't mentioned.  I added the Guilty Men link.  Another thing to consider might be the Auxiliary Units/Michael Foot stuff.  The somewhat sloppy text on the gateway page to the Dad's Revolutionary Army episode of BBC radio programme Document claims, "the early Home Guard  believed that Foreign Secretary, Lord Halifax was leading the call to give in ⌈to Germany in the Second World War⌉. Michael Foot, who then backed a guerrilla war, had plans for Halifax if he did. The 93 year-old former Labour leader told this programme: 'I'd have killed him' ".  Open4D (talk) 17:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You can also hear a minute of an interview with Foot here on You Tube. Open4D (talk) 17:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

text: It's a bit of a push to say Foot was on the Marxist wing of the Labour Party. More than a push frankly, just plain daft. Or perhaps you meant the Liberal Owen or the Tory Howard were on the Marxist wing of the Labour Party? DuncanHill (talk) 23:07, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appeasement, etc. 

message: Whereas Dominion and Afrika Reich are well-known novels, I cannot find any reference on Amazon to this novel or it's author who has been set up as a redlink. Can someone assist? 217.155.193.120 (talk) 23:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  For the Sake of England 

message: Is the following sentence, from roughly halfway through the article, correct? "The eventual Munich settlement, though humiliating to many in the British government, while hugely popular around the world, was short of Hitler's desires (and of Chamberlain's proposed concessions) and increased Hitler's determination to return to destroy Czechoslovakia in the spring." Hitler's determination to destroy Czechoslovakia? That can't be right, surely? Hitler wanted to *claim* Czechoslovakia, not destroy it. --Stickie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.230.9 (talk) 17:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Destroy" Czechoslovakia? 

message: The article states "In January 1941 Halifax was sent to Washington, D.C., on the death in office there of Ambassador Marquess of Lothian; he was the last man linked with appeasement to leave the Cabinet, as Chamberlain, Hoare and Simon had already departed."
A couple of quibbles with this.  Firstly, Chamberlain didn't depart; he died.  Secondly, while Simon was not a member of the War Cabinet, he held the position of Lord Chancellor throughout Churchill's ministry, which was generally a cabinet-level office. Saying he'd "left the Cabinet" seems rather strong - he'd rejoin it as soon as a normal sized cabinet was re-established after the war in Europe ended.  Finally, I'm not sure you can say that either Sir Kingsley Wood, a close associate of Chamberlain, or especially Anthony Eden, who had been the primary executor of appeasement throughout his first tenure as Foreign Secretary, can be considered to not be "linked" with appeasement. john k (talk) 04:24, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Simon was not restored to the Cabinet when the war ended. I'll retire back to pedants' corner now.Paulturtle (talk) 17:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  last appeaser 

message: Was it Winston Churchill or Jennie Jerome who was elected President in 1936? Paul Magnussen (talk) 16:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: I see the article's introduction, which I scribbled a few months back (it probably needs a brief summary of his India policies as well) has attracted the attentions of an anonymous editor with only a few edits to his name, possibly the same tedious troll who keeps resurfacing in British political history articles of this era (sorry if I'm jumping to wrong conclusions).
Just so as we are clear here, I'm not aware of any historian who seriously disputes the version of events given in the introduction, namely that Halifax, as is shown in documents from the time, was unwilling to be a figurehead PM with Churchill running the war (this was when the German attack on the West had just started but before it became clear that France was about to go down to catastrophic defeat). I don't know of anybody, not even Boris Johnson (I checked) who claims that Churchill "refused to serve under him", even if he may or may not have kept tactically silent at one meeting. This wasn't 1916 when everyone was at each other's throats and threatening to resign. Feel free to post a correction if I'm wrong.Paulturtle (talk) 05:34, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edit-warring 

message: More Austrians (by percentage) voted to merge with Germany than Germans voted to merge with Austria. More than 99% of both countries supported the merger but te Austrian vote was higher by a fraction of a percent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.97.133 (talk) 23:07, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Austria annexed Germany 

message: Hitler stated often that he was a supporter of Britain and its empire, evensuggesting a military alliance o prevent Stalin overtaking Europe. When the British Luegenpresse repeatedly claimed that Hitler was Britain's enemy, Hitler wrote a letter to Lord Rothermere that stated he had given between four and five thousand speeches, and in none of them had he said or written anything against Britain or its interests.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.97.133 (talk) 23:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  German alliance with Britain 

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message: Where did the "Irwin" title come from? Is it a place (I can't find anywhere called Irwin in the UK: our list at Irwin only lists places in the US and Australia)? Or a surname from somewhere in his ancestry perhaps? Proteus (Talk) 13:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question! According to Birkenhead "Edward relinquished his seat in the House of Commons and was created Baron Irwin of Kirby Underdale, the parish in the East Riding of Yorkshire in which Garrowby lies. There was a connection here between the name Irwin and Temple Newsam, for an Ingram had been raised to the peerage after the Restoration and assumed the Scottish title of Lord Irvine." Garrowby Hall was the ancestral seat of the Woods, Temple Newsam was left by Emily Meynell-Ingram to her nephew, Edward Wood. The Ingrams used the English Irwin spelling rather than the Scottish Irvine, despite Irvine being the "official" form used in the title. So he used it as a nod to the family whose stately home he had inherited. DuncanHill (talk) 18:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you - that's very interesting! Proteus (Talk) 10:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baron Irwin