Talk:Begin (video game)

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:BEGIN screen.JPG

message: I have added a quality assessment rating and importance rating to this article. Feel free to change them as the article improves! Also, feel free to add more issues to the list below, and strike them out (strike) when they're completed. — OranL (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Crikey, basic verifiability would be a start. Marasmusine (talk) 09:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell me about it, I've been trying to coax this out of the editors who've been working on this and similar articles of late but with little to no success. Alastairward (talk) 11:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Go ahead and just delete the article. - T Nelson, game author.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 09:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You might be in a position to tell us if Begin was featured/reviewed in any pre-internet publications? Marasmusine (talk) 12:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes it was. It was included in the PC-SIG CD ROM collection and I think it was reviewed in their Shareware Magazine. They went out of business around 1991. It was reviewed or mentioned in a couple other magazines but it has been a long time and I don't remember where. I might have copies of the articles somewhere but I have moved six times since we wrote the original program back in 1984 so I am not sure where they might be. I think one of the local SF bay area computer magazines (papers) was one of them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 04:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I found a couple of printed reviews. Sanyo PC Hackers Newsletter. Vol 5 Issue 5. SF Bay Area, Sept 1988. page 7.
Microtimes. June 12, 1989, Page 122. Article: Great Games. A Collection for People Who Take Their Fun Seriously, by Tom Cox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 06:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can take anything that's not self-published and use it to improve the article - so perhaps not the newsletter, but probably Microtimes? If it's not too much trouble, can you scan the reviews? Marasmusine (talk) 10:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, I will scan it when I get a chance. Where do I put/send the scan?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 01:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, how come this went unanswered? I'll hep you!!! Just go to my user page, and leave any questions. we can try to continue this!! --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 21:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I left an email at the Begin 3 webpage and posted at the Begin Yahoo Groups!. Hopefully Tom sends the reviews soon.Lionel (talk) 21:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Begin was released as shareware by PC-SIG on disk1692  and is located here . I'm pretty sure a review (and thus a solid ref) is in here  and could be cited as it was in Sleuth_(computer_game). There is in fact a review in the zip file, I'll cite it for now. Lionel (talk) 22:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm sure a review of shareware by the company that released it is a "solid ref" to the game's existence, but not terribly helpful to the issue of notability. WikiuserNI (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: * The article needs to be separated into sections.
* There is no mention of what genre the game falls into. (I suspect it could be classified as strategy or shooter.)
* There needs to be more explanation of game mechanics and design.
:Crikey, basic verifiability would be a start. Marasmusine (talk) 09:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell me about it, I've been trying to coax this out of the editors who've been working on this and similar articles of late but with little to no success. Alastairward (talk) 11:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Go ahead and just delete the article. - T Nelson, game author.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 09:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You might be in a position to tell us if Begin was featured/reviewed in any pre-internet publications? Marasmusine (talk) 12:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes it was. It was included in the PC-SIG CD ROM collection and I think it was reviewed in their Shareware Magazine. They went out of business around 1991. It was reviewed or mentioned in a couple other magazines but it has been a long time and I don't remember where. I might have copies of the articles somewhere but I have moved six times since we wrote the original program back in 1984 so I am not sure where they might be. I think one of the local SF bay area computer magazines (papers) was one of them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 04:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I found a couple of printed reviews. Sanyo PC Hackers Newsletter. Vol 5 Issue 5. SF Bay Area, Sept 1988. page 7.
Microtimes. June 12, 1989, Page 122. Article: Great Games. A Collection for People Who Take Their Fun Seriously, by Tom Cox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 06:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can take anything that's not self-published and use it to improve the article - so perhaps not the newsletter, but probably Microtimes? If it's not too much trouble, can you scan the reviews? Marasmusine (talk) 10:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, I will scan it when I get a chance. Where do I put/send the scan?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.168.183 (talk) 01:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, how come this went unanswered? I'll hep you!!! Just go to my user page, and leave any questions. we can try to continue this!! --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 21:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I left an email at the Begin 3 webpage and posted at the Begin Yahoo Groups!. Hopefully Tom sends the reviews soon.Lionel (talk) 21:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Begin was released as shareware by PC-SIG on disk1692  and is located here . I'm pretty sure a review (and thus a solid ref) is in here  and could be cited as it was in Sleuth_(computer_game). There is in fact a review in the zip file, I'll cite it for now. Lionel (talk) 22:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm sure a review of shareware by the company that released it is a "solid ref" to the game's existence, but not terribly helpful to the issue of notability. WikiuserNI (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable issues