Talk:Wardenclyffe Tower

message: In 2009, NYT reported that Agfa offered the site for sale.  Was it sold? User:Shattered (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Like this article, Chain Reaction narrates how the secret of limitless, cheap power was suppressed in the name of profit.  And like this article, it's a sci-fi fantasy which feeds some people's desire to believe that only some vast international conspiracy stands between the common man and life on Easy Street. EEng (talk) 03:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if Tesla had been able to build a functional system, it would still be possible to charge for it - after all, as I understand it towers would be placed at various points around the world, but you'd still need to distribute the electricity to individual properties / businesses, so you could still meter it and charge people for the distribution of it, as well as the maintenance of the towers. Just because the generation is 'free', the collection and distribution definitely isn't! Mittfh (talk) 14:39, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Matthew Inman from The Oatmeal is reportedly starting a campaign to help preserve the property and the tower. MsFionnuala (talk) 23:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  As stated in the Main article, within a week Inman had raised the necessary finance to purchase the site, but will still keep the fundraising page open so the excess can be channelled into repairs and renovations of the building, as well as installing the necessary fittings and fixtures to turn it into a museum. Mittfh (talk) 14:39, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current status of the site? 

message: Suggest merging Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe to this article; most of that article is a recap of the history already here and this article already has a description of the fund raising efforts. WP:CRYSTAL applies as well, as yet there's no museum built. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: Hi,
Recently the property was bought by Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe.  Most of the funds were raised by donators to Matthew Inman's Campaign Let's Build a Goddamn Tesla Museum. This is quite important info as the site will now become a museum.  this should be added to the Wiikpedia article.
This information can be found at http://www.indiegogo.com/teslamuseum and http://theoatmeal.com/
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/tesla_museum_1m
Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.128.21 (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Property Bought 

message: "The transmitter itself was to have been powered by a 200 kilowatt Westinghouse alternating current industrial generator."
And what was to provide mechanical energy to the generator?  A coal-fired steam turbine?
Because at most 200 kilowatts was input to the tower, seems to me that the consumers of its wireless power, collectively, could have drawn at most 200 kilowatts from the system.  If this is correct, the article should explicitly say so, to combat a myth that Wardenclyffe somehow would have distributed unlimited quantities of wireless power. 75.163.215.184 (talk) 19:39, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article should address [[Conservation of Energy]]

message: It has been suggested the "World Wireless System" section be split off into a new article titled "World Wireless System." - GPeterson (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That may be a good idea based on the volume of related content that has been added to this article. I would strongly recommend though that it be titled World wireless power system, or similar, to avoid ambiguity. - MrX 16:40, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: GLPeterson has already forked it. At his point, I would recommend addressing the content at the new article, including major copy editing to remove content that doesn't comply with WP:RS and WP:OR. If what is left is trivial, then AfD might be the appropriate route. I think there is a rough consensus that most of the material does not belong in this article. - MrX 13:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Noticed after I posted, ty. I plan to leave it for a while, and see how it shakes out. Its on my back burner along with other similar content. I noticed someone has already had a go at some of the other problematic content I listed earlier. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI, I'd be interested in rewriting the mess at World Wireless System in the near future when I finish some other projects, particularly if there are other editors who would like to collaborate.  I would be in favor of merging it back here if there's room, as I agree Tesla's unexecuted dream doesn't really merit a separate article.  --ChetvornoTALK 17:07, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dedicated "World Wireless System" Article 

message: Does any know GPS coordinates of point where tower was standing? Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.38.62 (talk) 06:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Shoreham, Long Island, the 0.4sq mile area in which the tower is situated, is centred at 40° 57' 25? N, 72° 54' 31? W (40.956944, -72.908611), and I imagine you could get a more precise location of the actual tower using Google Earth. It should be easy to locate visually given the resolution of the satellite images of Google earth Tarquin Q. Zanzibar (talk) 09:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  GPS coordinates? 

message: This article describes the tower up front in the lead but the tower was a small (and short lived) component in Tesla's Wardenclyffe project, which also included a grounding well and a building that was the transmission facility as well as a laboratory and factory (as the majority of the article describes). Maybe the title should be changed to "Wardenclyffe". Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 19:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a "Tower"? 

message: The science center article duplicates most content in this article. Also, the museum has not even begun construction yet. It is likely that the museum will not be built for some time, and the article can be created then. Epicgenius (talk) 03:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe]] 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Wardenclyffe Tower's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "about":
From Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe: 
From National Register of Historic Places: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:46, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Wardenclyffe Tower]] 

message: I did a major expansion and cleanup of the article adding more historical information referenced to secondary sources and moving/merging sections referenced to primary texts into a more prose oriented form. Lead has been adjusted to match content. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: A huge improvement, removing the unsourced WP:FRINGE pseudoscientific Tesla-POV material which has marred this article for years, and adding a modern analysis of Tesla's 19th century misconceptions about electromagnetics which led him to believe he could transmit wireless power long distances.  The detailed, well documented history of the funding of the project and its failure debunks a number of misconceptions that were implied in the previous text.  For the first time, Wikipedia has a reasonably accurate, WP:NPOV description of this project. --ChetvornoTALK 00:37, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Ty, Marc J. Seifer' article on Tesla and Morgan's letters turned out to be a good source. I noticed Seifer put them out of order to tell a story but fortunately he footnoted them with the date. I was surprised to see how fast the project went down hill, they signed a contract and 4 months later Morgan was pulling the plug (or Tesla was shooting himself in the foot, depending how you look at it ;)). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 01:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So - it looks as though Morgan pulled his funding because Tesla went over budget and/or because he violated his contract by expanding the project from a "small wireless telegraphy station" to a large wireless telegraphy/power station? (although I guess no one can say for sure) --ChetvornoTALK 06:35, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major expansion and cleanup 

message: So we got descriptions of what is under the tower      . Tesla describes the pipe pushed into the ground under the 120foot well as "there I had special machines rigged up which would push the iron pipe, one length after another, and I pushed these iron pipes, I think sixteen of them, three hundred feet, and then the current through these pipes takes hold of the earth." sixteen 300 foot pipes of 16 lengths of pipe that pushed end to end = 300 feet? In those same sources there is description of four 100 foot long brick lined tunnels radiation from the bottom of the 120 foot well. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 15:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under the tower? 

message: A 100 years since the destruction of the Tesla Tower will be this year 2017.Suppossely yhe Tesla Tower was demolished to prevent"spies"! From useing the tower to report on ship conveys when the U.S. enteretd the First World war! Is this the true story?ThanksMinEdsonAndreJohnson (talk) 17:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This year 2017 Marks 100 Anniversary of Tesla Tower Destruction 

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message: A noe Jan7th 2018 is the,75th anniversary of Dr.Teslas death NYC<On Jan.7th1943!Remember TSLA!MinEdsonAndreJohnson (talk) 04:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note! Jan.7th,2018.75th Ann.of Teslas death! 

message: Can we add the "Pop Culture" section and add Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween? DynastiNoble (talk) 20:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Incidental appearances of "X" in TV or film is not encyclopediac content for an article about X.  We don't list every Road Runner cartoon under "Anvil", for example. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop culture 

message: In June of 1902, Tesla moved his lab to Wardenclyffe, and he also took up residence in the village at Wardenclyffe. The rented a cottage and resided there “until his own palatial mansion was built.” [Port Jefferson Echo] The Tesla cottage still exists. I have photos and documentation as well as anecdotes about Tesla’s life in the Village. How do I get his Wardenclyffe residence added to the Nikola Tesla page? Shorehamcottage (talk) 14:48, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds interesting!  You can be WP:bold and add it yourself, you don't have to ask anyone.    Wikimedia Commons is the image repository for Wikipedia, you can upload pictures there and display them in Wikipedia articles.   A few things to consider:  Wikipedia content must be WP:verifiable.  Is the content from a WP:reliable source like a newspaper, magazine, or book?  Another is WP:due weight.  The Nikola Tesla page covers a lot of material, and other editors may feel minor anecdotes of one period in his life are not that important and may edit down your additions.  Maybe your material would be more appropriate for this article, since it focuses on this part of Tesla's life?  These are just suggestions.  --ChetvornoTALK 19:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wardenclyffe 

message: Thank you so much for your help with adding information. The trouble is, I don’t understand the brackets. (I live in the Tesla cottage, but I’m a near Luddite. So sad!) I do have proper sources: newspaper articles, title search, etc. and great photos of then and now. I’ll just have to get someone to help me with the mechanics. Shorehamcottage (talk) 19:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wardenclyffe 

message: Why Wardenclyffe? what is the etimology of the name? why was it chosen? it can't be  the name of the place, as that's shoreham, so why or how did tesla pick this name?
77.138.224.125 (talk) 11:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be answered in article: "James S. Warden who was building a resort community known as Wardenclyffe-On-Sound". So the land developer named it after himself. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Wardenclyffe? 

message: I noticed the LI energy infrastructure category was removed. It is important for the category to remain since, despite the argument of "it never really worked," it was still a piece of energy infrastructure on Long Island (and one of the most famous and historic ones, for that matter) – and that is an indisputable fact. Please keep this in mind. To say "not really part of "infrastructure" as it never worked" simply is not a valid reason to not include one of Long Island's most famous energy-related structures in a category named "Energy infrastructure on Long Island, New York." AITFFan1 (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Infrastructure are things that exist and the category title is all we have to go by. Per the article this is a disputable fact, not an indisputable fact in that the tower was billed as a wireless telegraph, not energy Infrastructure. Even if it worked as an energy transmitter (actually never had a chance of working), it was a back door demonstration project, not Infrastructure. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Fountains. Does not belong in the same category as modern power plants and transmission lines. --ChetvornoTALK 18:26, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of energy infrastructure category