Talk:Green Day/Genre disputes

message: As these disputes take too much space in the talk page of Green Day. Any section about Green Day's genres has been placed here. psychomelo(discussion) 14:02, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

message: Since when did Green Day get classified as emo? Was this some sort of vandalism or did I miss something? Cjmarsicano 02:09, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's kind of funny. But vandalism is not, which is what it is. --Mac Davis 08:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emo? 

message: I've removed as unsupported the following material.  Per WP:V, WP:CITE, and even WP:WEASEL there needs to be something to back up these claims.  Tell who said these things, and where. - brenneman(t)(c) 06:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, I've been saying that for a long time.Gold Stur 23:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Many doesn't cut it though in terms of inclusion into an article so it should be sourced or left out.  Even if it can be sourced it may be better to be left out though. JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 23:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: green day are punk rock, angry vocals and the torn clothes and the attitude... They're far too punk from other punk bands, pop-punk NOT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Rotten (talk • contribs) 17:54, 22 February 2006
:Please take a look at all the debates on this talk page about this topic... and please don't repeat them.--Greedy 18:00, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Latest edit - See if this works.  I linked to the actual disambig page for punk.  I'll leave it someone else to be more specific if need be.  Drdr1989 08:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have trimmed it slightly to remove the genre reference from the intro paragraph since that reads pretty well and gets rid of that issue.  The box is accurate as is in terms of they're genre since they have music in both categories and I definitely like the sentence explaining their genre change in terms of their music.  Maybe the topic of how they're music has changed over the years should be delved into more deeply into the article. Overall, I love the changes... nice work Drdr1989. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 09:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  Drdr1989 19:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green day punk rock? ha! 

message: Please users, check the additional genre that have been added recently. I'd like to know the consensus here. Personally I think, Green Day does not fall into Pop Rock and Alternative Rock. (And someone, please start archiving the discussion, this page is getting way too long) --Andy123(talk) 08:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My personal opinon is that Green Day is mostly Pop-punk\Pop-rock. They are clearly more Pop-rock than Punk rock. As for Alt. rock, well you can say they're music is alt.rock (and it tells in GD's-related articles they are alt.rock), but the pop\punk\rock definition summarize it. "Pop punk, Pop rock" is what is suggest. psychomelo(discussion) 00:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: As it said in #Punk rock or not?, It doesn't matter how they (nor the fans) describe themselves. The only condition that brought the judgment is the music they play. Take this is an example; Tomorrow 50 Cent will claim his music is Alternative hip hop. Should Wikipedia change his genre description? No. The most Wikipedia can do is to add a sentence "On 23 March, 50 Cent told in an interview to People Magazine that his music isn't as much as mainstream as his critics claim". Green Day do not make Punk rock. They play a Pop\rock mixture with some elements of Punk. "Listen to Black Flag, GG Allin, The Clash, Dead Kennedys, and The Weirdos. Green Day sounds nothing like any punk rock band." (Gold Stur, 17 November 2005). If you wish to dispute about the Punk rock genre specifically, Do it in #Green Day's Punk Disputes. However, I admit they played some Punk rock in their past, Which is widely detailed in the article itself. As for the main genres, Punk rock should be out. psychomelo(discussion) 13:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Me too. psychomelo(discussion) 22:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre again

message: I have literally listened to every Green Day song on thier major label releases.  The majority of their songs are definitely not punk.  Who in their right mind would call "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) punk?  Only the Brokeback Mountain crowd would call Green Day punk. 172.194.24.91 03:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to disagree. True, Green Day are not what called punk rock, but I think pop is more like Britney Spears. If you find an error in a song's genre, fix it. Green Day is a rock band (with many sub-genres like pop/rock and pop punk). psychomelo(discussion) 21:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Green Day is punk 2601:89:C602:C3A0:E:E1C6:58F1:5EFB (talk) 02:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

text: "Only the Brokeback Mountain crowd would call Green Day punk." Thank god we have people who can stand up say the homophobic things that need to be said about Green Day, from behind the banner of anonymity. HOW BRAVE OF YOU, SIR!
--CannedLizard 01:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

text: They are not pure punk (punk rock), but they use elements of punk in their music. They're a mixture of pop, rock and punk. That's why it says "pop punk" in the info box. Psychomelodic (people think  edit) 17:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Pop punk is a sub genre of punk. 2601:89:C602:C3A0:E:E1C6:58F1:5EFB (talk) 02:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green Day are not punk they are stinky pop 

message: Green Day have only one pop-punk album and that's Dookie... other albums are different
1039 Smoothed out slappy hours - it sounded, to me, very grunge
Kerplunk - Was just straight up Mainstream Rock
Dookie - Pop-punk (the only pop-punk album)
Insomniac - Punk rock (actually pretty similar to the Ramones and Sex Pistols, just listen to Geek Stink Breath and the album is pretty offensive, remember the mother of some kid complaining about it)
Nimrod - Hard Rock (with the exception of Time of your life which is a rock ballad)
Warning - Alternative rock (its their own sound, as someone said) with punk lyrics
Shenanigans - Pretty much had an instrumental sound
American Idiot - Rock
But MY POINT IS that you can't put them in a pop-punk genre when they only had ONE pop-punk album. Its not right. So I think pop-punk should be deleted from their genre. 
Also why the need to put 3 genres. Can they just be called Rock?
And didn't Green Day formed in 1986 not 1988? I read somewhere Billie Joe and Mike Dirnt formed the band when they were 14.
Also their first label is Lookout, from where did Skene! come from?
:There has been months of discussion to explain all of those (especially the band formation and label). Read the discussions. --Switch 03:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How are Green Day pop-punk?  

message: At 19,500+ words and 38 pages of dispute as to Green Day's genre, including a whole seperate sub-article (or whatever it's called) of genre disputes, I think that it is more than apparent that there is certainly controversey as to Green Day being "punk". This atleast warrants some mention on the Green Day article. If not, then I have lost all respect of Wikipedia. Gold Stur 01:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DIY not EMI 

message: Here's my thoughts on the subject: the way that the genres are organized now is really ugly. Does it need to say punk rock/pop punk/alternative rock for every single song? No!
My idea goes thusly: earlier songs, from before Dookie, are punk rock. No arguing about specific ones. Songs from Dookie onward are a different matter. Things like She's a Rebel and other softer, more radio friendly tunes can be pop-punk. Harder hitting songs, like American Idiot, are punk rock. And songs that don't fit the bill for any of these (i.e., Boulevard of Broken Dream, Homecoming) can be alternative rock.
Multiple genres for a band is fine, but not for a single song. --172.193.134.93 22:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alrighty...

message: :People who are of the opinion that Green Day should not have their genre as punk rock, but may have a more suitable genre such as pop punk, alternative rock, rock or pop rock.
*Green Day is not punk, nor punk rock. - 66.68.32.177
*Green Day is not. I tried to put that they were pop-punk but it kept being reverted. Andre Wong
*Green Day is a pop-punk band - Canaen 
*Green Day sounds nothing like any punk rock band. They don't sound punk, they don't dress punk (how many punks dressed in suits?), and they certainly don't act punk. - Gold Stur
*I agree that Green Day are less punk than the unpunkest thing that ever wasn't punk - User:MarkGallagher
*Green Day is pop-punk - unsigned
*Green Day (pop-punk). And that's my only word on this subject. - Wanderer
*Its real fans of punk that tell them Green Day is pop or pop punk. Green day is just another example of their fans/hottopic making them out to be something they arent. - unsigned
*I suggest we leave this as Pop-Punk, and move on. - User:Excursus
*This is all completely ludicrous. Green Day are obviously pop-punk. - "Miami_pony" 12:21 pm 12/17/05
*Green Day gets labeled as "punk" solely for their Bush hatred. Green Day are not Punk. They are sure not Punk Rock, There is a clear defenition for what Punk Rock is. - User:Psychomelodic
*I now classify them as a pop-punk band. they're selling themselves to the media. -jope
*Agree with every word (also with what Gold Stur wrote). Face it people, they make Pop-punk. - unsigned
*The only classification they play today it Pop punk, and there's NO dobut about that . - User:New!!!!!oneone
*Perhaps a few songs in American Idiot take a step away from punk-pop, but the fact remains that the majority of their work falls under this category. You cannot change this because of a few songs on one album. - user:Jtrost 
*Punk is a scene of people who make and listen to Punk rock, dress and act diffrently, acting 'outgoing-ish', rebel the government, police, mainstream culture etc. AS WE CAN SEE, The people who listen to Punk rock (and are part of this "scene") do not consider Green Day as Punk rock. I think Punk pop is the perfect defention for what they are. - user:88.155.176.98
*My personal opinions are close Gold Spur's, although perhaps not in such a biased and angry manner. Green Day is not punk rock. - Natalie, 16th March, 2006.
*green day are not punk rock, wheres the angry vocals and the torn clothes or the attitude? They're far to emotional to be punk, pop punk maybe but punk rock? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by - user:Mr.Rotten
* I personally consider Green Day to be 'pop punk', a perfectly acceptable and widely used term. user:Jacknife737
*Given their diverse styles recently, their disparate influences on American Idiot, and the fact they fit neatly into no genre any more, they should be classified merely as modern rock. The article should describe them as a modern rock band, and note where appropriate that they started out as pop-punk. - User:SwitChar 
*Green Day's genre: they are alternative rock. They are not 100% punk, even though they've had some abrasive songs. I believe Green Day were confused as to what punk really was; when they first performed back in Berkely (on Lookout! records) their work was nothing but pure pop-rock. - Mike
*Personally I would be inclined to classify Green Day as just an alternative rock band (no "pop-punk", "punk" or "punk rock".) - User:Coolcamxl
*Green Day are not punk they are stinky pop - user:172.194.24.91
*they are definintly not punk - humhum_9
*why the need to put 3 genres. Can they just be called Rock? - unsigned
*I don't think that Green Day are Punk rock or punk pop. They are punk revival/alternative rock. Also on the intro paragraph shouldn't we say green day are a rock band. - User:DavidJJJ
*Green Day are not a punk rock band, their music has nothing in common with the genre from 1977 known as punk rock, I'll be agreeing with Steve Diggle and John Lydon, GREEN DAY NOT A PUNK ROCK BAND. - Deathrocker 08:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Punk Rock

message: :People with the point of view that they have made recordings in both pop punk and punk rock genre, and thus should mention both
*People accused Green day of not dressing punk. That's wrong .Punk is an attitude not a dress code. These days Punk has changed a lot and so have the people who consider punk beleifs. Green day has also changed with time. Until American Idiot they were punk, but with a melodic edge which would make it Pop punk. What happened in American Idiot was that though the music didn't sound punk it still had a good amount of punk ideology behind it. Same case with 21st century breakdown. So they are punk. But It's slightly dying out of them.Another point to mention is that they are accused as sell-outs. Actually before american idiot was release Billie Joe Armstrong expected it to be a disaster which it did in the punk scene but quite the opposite otherwise. People are terming success as "selling out". On a whole you can say that Green day plays alternative music and some amount of punk, but all of it has punk beleifs to it and the attitude you need to play punk.Oh and to all you fags who call Green day sell outs, they don't give a shit. That's whats it's about at the end isn't it? They can play what music they want. Punk or not its still good. This page is full of opinions from people who have f***** up brains .I'm not proud to say I'm one of them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.13.58 (talk) 06:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutral

message: If anybody here thinks with their own head they can understand why Green Day is punk, if not I feel sorry for you. If you want pop-punk then listen to Simple plan, Avril Lavigne or the later albums of Good charlotte. If you want power pop or pop rock I suggest you listen to No doubt or if you want pure pop I suggest you listen to George Michael, Michael jackson, Christina Aguilera, Beyonce... 
Green Day is pure punk and all their albums show that. Insomniac and American Idiot are the most punk of their albums. They are very hard, loud and fast. Which I can't say for many of the other punk bands. 
Let's see: The Clash, Rancid and The Stooges are NOT hard and loud enough to be punk. Don't believe me? Go listen to any of their albums. They sound like pop-punk. Sex Pistols don't have punk lyrics, it's all screaming lyrical nonsense. Green Day doesn't have to scream to get their point across. Sex Pistols sound like an ordinary hard rock band. And Sid Vicious is a Nazi moron, wearing a shirt with a swastika on it, f ucking skinhead. Black Flag is heavy metal and not punk. Circle Jerks are one of the most upbeat and poppy bands I've ever heard. Black Flag Dead Kennedys, Anti-Flag and The Exploited are all racist scum and they are definitely not punk. That's not what punk is about. On the other side these last three bands are all comforming to the punk community which contradicts them being punk. Punk is DIY (do it yourself) and that also means being yourself. And everybody loves these last three bands I mentioned for their racist and extremist views. Punk bands are supposed to be hated. I don't see people hating Dead Kennedys, in fact EVERYBODY loves them. For god's sake, they are like the Backstreet Boys. 
Green Day is punk because they play loud, hard and fast punk rock music and have punk lyrics. They are very much hated as I can see just from this talk page and from a lot of other forums. They are anti-war and anti-racism. Plus, has anyone heard their song "Minority"? That is what punk is all about. Even their ballad "Time of your life" sounds angry. At the end of that song you can hear clearly how Billie Joe bangs hard on his acoustic guitar. It has a lot of anger. 
List of punk bands are: The Ramones, New York Dolls, Joan Jett and The Blackhearts, Billy Idol, Social Distortion, Minor Threat, Bad Religion, Green Day, first albums of Blink 182, Descendents, Buzzcocks, Stiff Little Fingers....
:I'm tempted to remove this as irrelevant, useless and stupid. But I'm also tempted to leave it as an example of what not to do. I am most tempted to go through each sentence and point out what is incorrect about each one (and there's not a single one that wouldn't deserve it). Alas, I will leave it here for other people to observe. 
:(By the way: If you leave Crass out of your elitist "real punk" bands list, you fail at punk elitism). -Switch t 16:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot the clash and New York Dolls. 2601:89:C602:C3A0:E:E1C6:58F1:5EFB (talk) 03:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

text: All you are saying is your opinion, which is arbitrary and contrary to pure facts (the fact you think Circle Jerks are more poppy than the Ramones or Buzzcocks, both of which were self-proclaimed pop bands, is categorically wrong). You have the right to say whatever you want, but you do not have the right to waste Wikipedia space by posting long rants which contribute in no way. Do a little thinking and you will see. I of all people am not prone to "do[ing] what the stupid punk community tells" me. I have a Billy Idol patch on my jacket, in fact, but that doesn't mean he's punk rock. OH NO YOU HAVE INSULTED MY POLITICAL BELIEFS; I WILL NOW GO CRY BECAUSE THIS DEEPLY OFFENDS ME. You're just making yourself seem less reasonable. By the way, there is an entire Wikipedia article on that word you won't type, so you can drop the superfluous spaces. -Switch t 04:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You’re 100% wrong Billy Idol is considered punk. Fun fact there are different sub genre of punk. 2601:89:C602:C3A0:E:E1C6:58F1:5EFB (talk) 03:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

text: What you are saying is your opinion. You are not objective. Circle Jerks sound poppy because they are influenced by ska and the Ramones; on the other hand, Billy Idol, Ramones and Buzzcocks are poppy because they are influenced by bubblegum pop. There is no way it is possible to reasonably claim the Ramones are less poppy than Circle Jerks. You also are not being objective regarding politics. Neither Russia nor Cuba are or ever were communist, as every schoolchild knows. Further, I am not a communist, I am an anarchist. The fact you failed to realise this despite the fact my user page states it explicitly more than once does not lend you or your narrow-minded worldview credibility. However, this is not the place to discuss this. Drop me a line on my  talk page (click the "T" next to my name). -Switch t 05:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You've "proved" (sic) nothing. The Buzzcocks are not "harder" than Circle Jerks by any definition. -Switch t 06:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green Day is punk, everybody knows that...  

message: I'm not trying to take the "high and mighty" route, but we've gotten a few emails to our site asking us if we had any opinion in this dispute, so I thought I'd leave mine. I think that most Green Day fans who take a deeper meaning to Green Day's music will classify them as punk. The band got their influence from the entire punk scene. They didn't write the same kind of music as those in the same scene, but thats where they came from. The band has never lost that "punk attitude" that first motivated them to write the music they did, and i think that same thing is still in their music today. As for their actual genre, I think I'd agree that pop-punk might fit them best. They are a rock band, they are a punk band at heart, but I think they did have a large role in the rise of the pop-punk scene. My personal opinion is that they are a punk band, they started out a punk band and have carried that same badge with them throughout their entire career. I think punk is more than just the music, and thats why i still consider them a punk band. But to a large degree, if you're solely talking about the style of music they play, and not the attitude, motivation, or beliefs of why they write what they do, then i think pop-punk fits more than just rock or just punk alone. Only because 'Rock' is such a broad general genre. A compromise doesn't hurt. ~ Andres | --Gdauthority 02:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Andres! While I agree that Punk is a huge part of Green Day, and a bigger part than any other genre they could be considered, I also agree with wikipedia's policy on this. We need several sources and a general consensus. A General consensus hasn't been met. The only thing we can do is keep raising awareness about this article to both green day fans AND outsiders so that we can get a clear cut opinion on the matter. I know that to Green Day fans ( such as myself ) these guys will always have a huge punk rock influence, and for those of us who were there at the beginning, they *were* punk rock, even after Dookie. These days their genre has broadened and widened and in world where Punk Rock Is Dead, I think it's harder to label bands. If you're willing to help, perhaps we can find some sources together that state by people who are well established in the punk rock world, that Green Day have substantial punk rock influence. Any help would be great. We're kind of floundering here.--JUDE talk 20:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, a consensus was met months ago. That's how we settled on punk, pop-punk and alternative in the infobox. This page should really be archived or something. WesleyDodds 09:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference in Genre and beliefs 

message: Green Day is not only a punk band, but also one of the most influential.
Pop Punk is supposed to contain direct elements of "pop" music, which means fake harmonies,voice overs, synthesisers. Pop Punk bands would be music like Simple Plan who have the tempo of punk but use direct elements of pop music. 
Green Day make melodical music and thats the only reason they are considered pop punk. If you consider green days music to the so called "real" punk bands, its very common. Green Days music is much similar to Ramones/stiff little fingers.. In fact the ramones have got MORE pop punk songs than green day if you compare. Some people green day doesnt make a political statement. They did with american idiot. But Ramones hardly made political statements(The only song that was close to mentioning anything political was "Blitzkrieg Bop" or "Teenage Lobotomy(cia did a job on me.) so does that mean ramones arent punk?
Ill write down what the genre for the albums should be.. And please consider MY OPINION ON THE ALBUM GENRES BEFORE CHANGING THE GENRE OF GREEN DAY
39 Smooth- 1)Pop Punk 2)Punk Rock
Kerplunk- 1)Pop Punk 2)Punk Rock
Dookie- 1)Punk Rock 2)Pop Punk
Insomniac- 1)Punk Rock 2)Punk Rock 3)Punk Rock(Their most punk album)
Nimrod- 1)Punk Rock 2)Pop Punk 3)Alternative Rock
Warning- 1)Alternative Rock 2)Pop Punk
American Idiot- 1)Punk Rock (one of their most punk aswell..it was major but london calling was a huge album too..)
I only mentioned POP punk for the sake of it.. Green Days music shouldnt be considered pop punk..
Green Days most "punk" songs- 
Longview
Welcome To Paradise
One Of My Lies
Who wrote Holden Caulfield?
Geek Stink Breath
Stuck With Me
Brat
Platypus( i hate you)
Take Back
Hitchin A Ride
St Jimmy ..
.. are just some
Green Days "pop" punk ones that do use direct pop features(only some do)
Scattered
Uptight ( most nimrod ongs use pop features thats why only nimrod should be considered pop punk..
Guitarhead13 (talk) 18:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep so is the clash 2601:89:C602:C3A0:E:E1C6:58F1:5EFB (talk) 02:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: If Ramones are punk .. SO IS GREEN DAY!

message: i agree with punk rock, pop punk, alternative rock; but how are they post-grunge? <FONT FACE="Rockwell Extra Bold" COLOR="#FF0002">  ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓  ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) </FONT> 09:38, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out the article!  Post-grunge.  It's pretty informative, and Green Day fit in the category rather well.  When Kurt Cobain died, Green Day had just finished recording the video for Longview.  They emerged into the limelight right around the same time that Grunge was fading into a new genre, hence being called "Post-grunge".--JUDE talk 10:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  post-grunge 

message: I cannot believe that you guys call Green Day punk. Seriously.
Look at the consensus a few topics above me. Here are the results:
*27 - Not punk rock; another genre instead.
*14 - Have released material in both punk rock & pop punk styles, or other.
*6 - Punk rock
There are more people claiming that Green Day isnt punk rock than people that are neutral or say that Green Day is punk combined. So obviously, the consensus isnt an issue.
Anyway, the claim that Green Day is punk isnt sourced. According to WP:V, "Any edit lacking a source may be removed..."WP:V So I can take it out, and it wont be vandalism! So dont go all (rvv) if you revert my changes.
Here is the truth about Green Days genre: Green Day is Pop rock and alterntive. Emo tries to get radio airplay. Now, if there is something we can all agree on, its that true punk rock doesnt try to get on the radio. Thus, emo isnt punk anymore. 
Also, following that up, Green Day sold out and is now making music only for money and radio airplay. And, like I said before, true punk rock doesnt desperately try to get on the radio. Thus, Green Day isnt Punk Rock!!!!! And punk-pop is a subgenre of punk rock, so Green Day isnt punk-pop, either!!!!! Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 21:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: LOL

message: I think Green Day is Punk Rock,'cause they sound so. We're talking about a music genre, not about some methapysical abrasct matter: just listen to the music and note how it sounds punk rock. Tanderbau (talk) 13:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Punk Rock

message: oh my gosh i love Green Day and just hate paramore and i think both are punk!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.79.128.140 (talk) 05:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headline text 

message: Should be added to genres. 77.127.142.244 (talk) 10:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emo 

message: What people are saying is that Green Day isn't punk because they "sold out". Punk is about not conforming so Punks conform to not conform where as "sell outs" get to do whatever the hell they want and no conform to anything. Also Green Day is named as Punk by Rolling Stone and Kerrang, and many other famous sites and magazines. So if you true punks want to conform to hating "sell outs" like Green Day or something then you just conformed or sell out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.60.174 (talk) 04:11, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: I think it should be as follows:
Punk Rock
Rock
Punk Revival
Arena Rock
If I can find surces I think those styles would be the most correct  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.45.187.98 (talk) 15:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical type 

message: Green Day is a multi genre band, plain and simple. They have punk songs, they have pop-punk songs, they have alternative songs. I see a lot of people trash Green Day because that’s what the punk community tells them to do, and isn’t that a little bit ironic? A mentality based around rebelling, but you enforce the opinions of others without bothering to create your own? For me personally, I think Green Day’s content before Dookie fits pretty well with the punk genre. After that, it becomes closer to alternative music, but songs like St Jimmy and American Idiot still preserving that punk vibe. MVL0 (talk) 21:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let’s settle this 

message: didn’t GD say in father of all motherfuckers it was a departure of their punk rock genre and going into garage rock?
I think they definitely fit a bunch of genres but it’s not cause they don’t fit the “punk rock” requirements, but because they decided to change their style halfway through. shit like American Idiot or Kerplunk is definitely punk rock but afterwards they mostly stray into garage rock (with a few punk songs left)
idk thought I’d give my two cents, I think they started off punk and went into a more garage feel (dunno about saviors though, only listened to the singles so far) Insane&Insecure (talk) 20:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: also lol, sorry I know this thread is over a decade old I just wanted to add new info since father of all came out 2020 Insane&Insecure (talk) 21:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  father of all?