Talk:Çankaya Mansion

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message: According to the source, you can clearly understand the following items;
1. Former owner of the land and the first building was Armenian.
2. Former owner(s) left the place because of the deportations in the Great War.
3. Neither of the resources state the reason as "genocide". The term "genocide" doesnt exist in any part of the two resources.
4. In the literature "Deportation" and "Genocide" are very diffenet terms, and the author clearly chooses the former.
Wikipedia articles should be true to the resources. I'm not saying that you manupulate the resource, but maybe you don't know that the two terms have an important difference. ĶŞĶ-ŴĀŘ (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Pray tell, what exactly do you think the deportations meant for most Armenians in 1915? Can you demonstrate that Kasabian decided to abandon his palace voluntarily? I don't feel like giving anyone a history lesson but the deportations have been recognized by scholars as a method of destroying the Armenian people, which in turn has been described as genocide. No one can accept any of the above "explanations" with a straight face.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 22:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  War is a tragedy. Great war is a great tragedy. Its a fact that, of course the deportations were a big tragedy. But this does not mean the deportations were a "genocide". There is a large debate on this issue. Many scholars point the issue as a genocide, but as many scholars (if not more) do not class the events as a genocide. If we cite a resource which states that the reason of why the former owners left is "genocide" then it's okay to cite that phrase. But if our resource states the reason as "deportations", we should stick to that. We shouldn't discuss about what was the deportations here. The resource states "deportations", so we can only cite that as deportations. PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE THE ARTICLE BY DISTORTING THE RESOURCES.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KSK-War (talk • contribs) 19:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

text: It's interesting that you tried to read first the author's and now my inner thoughts. If we're to talk about "true good faith", that could be possible by sticking to objective/positive facts, like the original text of the resource. Now you accuse me with not being/acting of true, good-faith. Well, I think that shows the community a bit of you. I don't want to start a childish game of accusations. I think you are not neutral to this issue, and you don't have a neutral pov on this issue. But wikipedia shall be neutral. You might object my contribution to the article, but I think a neutral pov is a desirable thing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KSK-War (talk • contribs) 21:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been editing here for almost seven years now. You can take a look at my main page and my contributions to see the effort and dedication I have put into writing articles and that such talk of me not being neutral is speaks of a lack of ability to debate things rationally. Good luck in the rest of your endeavors but please refrain from obstructing and damaging the integrity of this article and others. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remain true hearted to the resources (Kansas Bear ) 

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message: This is regarding my previous edits that are geing rolled back.
I've checked the provided sources and I could not find anything that makes the lot being vacated by the Kasabian family related to any genocide. I left the parts that can be proven intact.
I believe that the previous ownership(s) do not belong in the title section. The place for that should be the history section.
I would like to add that I assume some or most people who engage in this "revert war" to be people of Armenian heritage, based on their edit history and talk page, with whom I've unfortunately had a lot of experiences where finding out that one is Turkish, will stop anything they're doing and say that one is a genocidal maniac and make racist remarks. I believe this to be the case for the political motivation, and why the part about previous ownership was carried to the title section. 176.233.25.95 (talk) 08:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: LMAO! --Kansas Bear (talk) 12:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Your reply is unconstructive and unfortunately I will have to keep repeating my edits 176.233.25.95 (talk) 13:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential politically motivated, unverified information