Talk:Porcelain tile

message: Much of this article is just not true.  Full-bodied porcelain tile may be glazed.  There is no known ANSI standard that defines porcelain tile.  ANSI rates tile for water absorption and does not make any distinction between materials.  The Porcelain Enamel Institute (PEI) also rates tiles for wear-resistance.  It too makes no distinction between materials.  The only distinction between porcelain and ceramic tile that I am aware of is that porcelain is usually made from a light colored clay while ceramic is made from red or terracotta clay.  This's it. Jmedgar 00:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Porcelain" vs "Ceramic" 

message: I believe that Porcelain tile is separate and distinct enough from porcelain to have its own entry. Porcelain tile is essentially a construction material while fina china... isn't. -user:greroja
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I agree don't merge this with "porcelain", tile is a historic art medium and material , as well as above noted construction/interior design use. porcelain will be overloaded with finished plates and cups and wares, and things like that, this is a decorative art material. Goldenrowley 01:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Porcelain" vs "Porcelain Tile" 

message: This articles claims to be both for "Porcelain tiles" and "ceramic tiles" but at various points in the articles say things like:
* Porcelain is denser and therefore heavier to handle than other ceramic tiles.
* Porcelain, being denser and heavier than ordinary ceramic tiles,
* Porcelain is much harder than ordinary ceramic tiles
* The clay used to build porcelain tiles is generally denser than ceramic tiles. 
Making it seem that porcelain tiles are a subset of ceramic tiles. 
In general "porcelain" is considered to a be a specific type of ceramic (based on clay type and the temperature at which the clay is fired). See for example: https://farandaway.co/blogs/the-artisan/what-is-the-difference-between-ceramic-and-porcelain
This translates to an extent with tiles (though the term "Ceramic" tile often used to refer to a specific type of tile). See for example:
* https://www.britishceramictile.com/how-to-tile/ceramic-vs-porcelain-tiles
* https://www.carpetone.com/flooring-guide/product-tile/tile-types
cancan101 (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subset or no 

message: That section needs citation. Some light googling seems to suggest porcelain tiles are already vitrified though? I am unsure at this point but here is the article i am refereeing to. Maybe it can also be used for citation.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/porcelain-tiles-vs-vitrified-birju-ransariya
:"Porcelain tiles however fall under the category of vitrified tiles and therefore, they are also sometimes referred to as vitrified tiles."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itchyjunk (talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vitrification 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Porcelain tile →  – Ceramic is the better parent name for tiles that encompass porcelain as well cancan101 (talk) 21:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: When you get into the trade literature, UK as well as US, "porcelain tile" does seem to be a thing, but they are by no means always, probably usually not, made of actual porcelain. In this sense they seem mainly tough ceramic tiles for floors, while actual porcelain tiles are probably mainly for walls, at least in the UK.  The lead now says (after recent changes): "Porcelain tiles or ceramic tiles are either tiles made of porcelain, or relatively tough ceramic tiles made with a variety of materials and methods, that are suitable for use as floor tiles, or for walls" - I agree the "or ceramic tiles" should go, & redirect to Tile. Johnbod (talk) 18:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I still don't see why porcelain tiles have enough information to merit their own page, but not the same about ceramic tiles. I would argue as I've done before that if either has a dedicated page it would be ceramic tiles and then porcelain could just be a subsection within that page as by various definitions they are some form of a subset of ceramic tiles (whether by traditional definitions or by the level of water absorption). cancan101 (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any reason to split out ceramic tiles (the most common material) from the main article, Tile. Many different subsets of "ceramic tile" have their own articles - there look to be about 20 in :Category:Tiling. Johnbod (talk) 04:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 7 January 2024 

message: The hatnote says ""Glazed tile" and "glazed tiles" redirect here. For roofing material used in China, see Chinese glazed roof tile." I see no reason for this, as both "porcelain" (true or pretend) Vitrified and earthenware tiles may or may not be glazed.  These terms should redirect to Tile, where there is plenty of coverage. Johnbod (talk) 00:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glazed