Talk:Stan (song)

message: Whoever wrote this saying it has a haunting melody is not neutral and must be Eminems biggest fanboy/groupie ever. I dont think its haunting. NOT NPOV!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.17.26.4 (talk • contribs) .
:You know, I would applaud your attention to NPOV, if it wasn't belied by your recent edits to ICP related articles, which amount to nothing more than POV vandalism.  Please don't pretend to be a defender of Wikipedia until you bother to extend the same protection to topics you dislike.  Kasreyn 09:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not neutral 

message: This appears to contain most of the song: I suggest that this is substantially a copyright violation... User:194.51.2.34
: Okay, I did think it might be a bit excessive myself. But I'm not sure that all of the explanation of the lyrics needs to go. I'll go and ask User:TUF-KAT about it, on his talk page. Hopefully we can all come to some sort of agreement on how much can stay in. -- Oliver P. 16:10, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright infringement 

message: Please note that the edit history of this article is scattered in several places. It began as part of the article at The Marshall Mathers LP, which was at the time entirely written by User:TUF-KAT. On 04 Dec 2002, he moved the content to Stan. On 15 Jun 2003, User:J.J. moved the content again to Stan (song), where it is now. -- Oliver P. 15:55, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit history 

message: Whose debut single is this? KayEss | talk 09:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Debut single by Dido, although as a featured performer Do you know me?...then SHUT UP!!! Sarcasm is beauty 23:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Debut single

message: Hey, I heard this song again after a very long time the other day. While I was listening to the last of Stan's lyrics, which I always thought was "how'm I going to send this shit out?", I thought that it sounded a lot like "I'm not supposed to sit this shit out", which obviously would put a completely different meaning to it. I'm probably completely wrong, I listened to this song loads a few years ago thinking it was the other lyric, then listened to it once recently and thought it might be the second one, which isn't really enough, I know, but I just thought I'd mention it. --Aceizace 00:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The tape? 

message: At http://www.lyricinterpretations.com an anonymous user said "This song is about when one of Eminem's fans "Stanley Mitchell" commited suicide and killed his girlfriend by driving his car off a bridge with his girlfriend in the trunk of his car on March 23 1999."
Shouldn't the article mention anything about it, if it's real? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.162.18.36 (talk) 13:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This site hardly meets Wikipedia's standards for verifiability. Moreover, if the user was anonymous, it's even less reliable. However, if we can cite something else, we can include this.--Orthologist 17:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: That's the name on the tombstone you see in the video (pretty much at the end). It's part of the fiction. --89.217.158.197 06:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he singing about a real fan? 

message: This seems like original research to me, in the video it looks much more like Eminem is worried that Stan is becoming a stalker. The Pet Shop Boys song does link in here though, no matter what Eminem's intentions were. 82.68.41.201 16:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: During the early part of the song, Stan is in love with Eminem and wants a sexual relationship with him. He has many posters of him on his wall. Dido's character finds that Stan has put pictures of Eminem on top of her in pictures of Stan and her. In one of his letters, he says to Eminem "we should be together". 188.29.39.35 (talk) 12:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for "suggesting an apparently homosexual relationship" ? 

message: I'm going to delete "gay" because that is unneeded additional information. Singer Elton John is fine enough. The SOAD Fan 16:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  " singer" Elton John 

message: I seem to remember, on more than one occassaion, hearing on television that there had been a dispute between Eminem and Dido with the rights or the royalties to this track. I cannot find anything about it in the main article or indeed the "Stan (song)" article. I wondered if anyone knows anything about about it or if it should be included in either article. Just a thought.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.109.86 (talk) 16:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute with dido 

message: the section on lyrics mentions parts from the video, this is hardly necessary seeing as anything from the music video that is note worthy should go into the music video section. it makes it slightly more confusing, switching from the two like that. also the lyrics shouldn't really contain any mention of the video but in the music video section there should be mention of lyrical content in relation to the video. ^o) stupid me  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.171.10 (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics section 

message: I took out the following section, entitled "Un-Added Part" as it has too little information (and no references at all) to be useful. For example "an interview some time around New Years" isn't very helpful at all. I hope someone familiar with the subject can edit it into good enough shape to include the information:
Eminem had an interview some time around New Years. He menchined that Stan was supposed to be much longer but it too long so they took the last two parts out of it. If they didnt then in the song and music video, Stan would have survived the crash and gone insane. Then he goes up to Eminem's place and tries to kill him but Eminem ends up being the one who kills him.
(end of section) Loganberry (Talk) 18:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section removed 

message: In an interview with Eminem, he states that Stan is fictional.  Here is a transcribed interview conducted by VH1 .  The section where he talks about Stan:
VH1: Is there a connection between the song "Stan" and the character Stan in "Guilty Conscience" on The Slim Shady LP?
Eminem: No. Stan was just somebody completely made up, based on what could happen if you take my lyrics too seriously. I'm nice enough and courteous enough to tell the kids at the end of the day this is not how you want to be. You don't want to grow up to be just like me. When I say, "Jump off a f*cking bridge or slit your wrists," that's not what I'm really trying to say. It's tongue in cheek.''
κaτaʟavenoTC 13:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Stan is fictional

message: her character in the music video, whats her name? --WhiteInKnights (talk) 17:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dido 

message: Stan fits the criteria of this. However, I cannot find a reliable source that says so, which is why I haven't added it to the article. Does anyone have a source for it? It is a good depiction of a severe case of BPD. 188.29.39.35 (talk) 12:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Borderline personality disorder]] 

message: this song is horrorcore and you can tell by the lyrics. i got a citation for horrorcore, i don't see how it is alternative hip hop. unless there's a source for alternative hip hop, horrorcore will be the only genre.
HATS STAH (talk) 23:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  genre 

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message: I think the different uses of this song in popular culture should be added on this section. I only now of a single one by a popular Israeli TV show called "HaYehudim Baim", in which Stan is replaced by Baruch Goldstein and Eminem by God. It's a fictional story of the events preceding the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs. This parody run on the Israeli Public Broadcaster in 2014 and can be accessed in its official YouTube account (retrieved as of Aug 2020).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.17.50.198 (talk) 12:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  References on Legacy section 

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thread_title:  "Stan (fan)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Es una de la mejores canción en la historia del rap estado Unidos. Sobre un fan 201.229.238.69 (talk) 03:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stan eminem 

message: Can anyone elaborate on this? I really don't see any Stan references in River, and it's unsourced. Couruu (talk) 16:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Eminem has referenced Stan in some of his later songs, including River" 

message: I stumbled upon the full unedited and uncensored videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBBGy23xDfM but I am not sure where to put the link in the article. It is a TV rip - is putting it in the info box below the short and long versions suitable ? Qweqq (talk) 18:56, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to full unedited and uncensored video (as described in the 'Censorship' section)