Talk:Viva la Quinta Brigada

message: Some confusion over the lyrics and title here. The original Spanish Civil War song is "Viva La QUINCA Brigada" and the word quinta should be replaced by quinca in the lyrics shown. American folk singer Pete Seeger has a version of the original civil war song with the correct title and lyrics.
http://personales.ya.com/altavoz/canciones/elpasodelebro.htm
Quinca = 15th
Quinta = 5th
Now to explain...the English-speaking battalions formed by the Communist International for service in Spain served in the 15th International Brigade (Irish, Canadian, British and U.S.)
http://www.communistpartyofireland.ie/spainn-en.html
I don't know why Christy Moore decided to call his song "Viva La QUINTA Brigada"; perhaps his Spanish wasn't too good or he thought it sounded better but the "5th International Brigade" never existed. The 5th MIXED Brigade was NOT an international unit, purely native Spanish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Durruti1936 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quinca = 15th, Quinta = 5th (first is correct) 

message: Agreed. I think it's a mistake by Christy Moore: the two words in Spanish are very similar. interestingly, in early versions he calls it "Quinta" (fifth) in later ones he corrects it to "Quince" (fifteenth). The word "Fifteenth" is also clearly sung in the refrain. Here's a link to youtube by way of verification: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qypb3JIZN4 In any event, it's a bit daft perpetuating the mistake here. 
:: Actually it should be "quinceava brigada" as "quince" means fifteen, while "quinceavo/quinceava" means fifteenth.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.222 (talk) 18:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it's not like Peter Seeger was singing the Spanish version 4 years before Moore was even born is it:) Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 01:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment on Quinta/quince

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message: I’m confused by the article’s framing of this song and the song that Pete Seeger sings. The article says “The tune which he used was barely similar to the version of Viva la Quince Brigada recorded by Pete Seeger and the Almanac Singers in the early 1940s, as Moore's song is in a mayor key (C) and Seeger's, which is just a cover from the 19th century Spanish revolutionary song "Ay, Carmela", is in a minor key.” That makes it sound like Moore somehow adapted his song from Seeger’s version of “Ay, Carmela.” But as far as I can tell from listening to the two songs, they’re completely different songs that have similar titles and are both about more or less the same topic. (The lyrics, melodies, and rhythms appear to me to be entirely different.) I haven’t found a reliable source that says that—but then again, the current version of that paragraph in the article isn’t sourced either. So I’m going to revise it to refer to the two songs as different songs. If I’m wrong and they are in some way related, then feel free to revert—but in that case, please add further information about (a) how they’re related, and (b) a source that says that. Elysdir (talk) 08:33, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two different songs?