Talk:Heterokont

message: This page should say how many species are in the phylum.
The diatom page says there are about 100,000 species of diatoms.
But the heterokont page says there are only about 10,500 known
heterokonts, and diatoms are a subset of the heterokonts.  This
discrepancy should be resolved.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.232.90 (talk) 05:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of species

message: Don't people think that the classes in the taxobox should be alphabetized? --Kupirijo 00:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidy up taxobox 

message: The colour of the taxobox for this article is #FA7B62. Does anyone know why taxoboxes for Heterokont classes have a mixture of colours? GrahamBould 07:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Taxobox colour

message: This addition adds a lot of information that may well be true, but seems controversial with respect to recent secondary sources, and so needs some sourcing of its own. I've reverted, but I hope that the editor can find sources to support it.--Curtis Clark (talk) 06:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced additions 

message: I changed the kingdom from “Chromalveolata” to “Halvaria” because the former is not monophyletic and is not in Template:Eukaryota. However, my taxobox got screwed up. Could someone please fix it? I hope everyone approves my changing of “Chromalveolata” to “Halvaria”, not withstanding the resulting taxobox messup? The consensus among biologists is that non-monophyletic taxa are not valid, and I fully agree; and Wikipedia's policy is not to give undue weight to fringe views, which I understand to mean that view of the overwhelming majority gets priority. Hence, the kingdom for an organism should never be listed as “Chromalveolata”. Okay?--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 10:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix 

message: Heterokontophyta (Hoek, 1995) includes colorless groups and can be synonym of Stramenopiles, but I think that Heterokontophyta (Hoek, 1978) may not include them, and so it would be synonym of Ochrophyta. Zorahia (talk) 21:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heterokontophyta  

message: There are these two articles with different names; there is a complex taxonomic history, and both names have been used somewhat promiscuously. Are they now the same thing, or is there some justification for having them both? At Talk:Stramenopile it appears someone tried redirecting/merging back in 2008, but that this was undone at some point. And in Stramenopile#History and the Heterokont problem someone has written 
::"The consequence of multiple concepts for the taxon 'heterokont' was that the meaning could only be made clear by reference to its usage: Heterokontae sensu Luther 1899; Heterokonta sensu Copeland 1956, or heterokont in the sense of Heterokont Wkipedia on a particular date.[clarification needed] The term 'Heterokont' lost its usefulness in critical discussions about the identity, nature, character and relatedness of the group.[4]"
(my boldface emphasis): I'm not sure what we can possibly mean by citing "Wkipedia" as a taxonomic authority, so I've flagged it for clarification. In short, there's something wrong here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure that Wikipedia is not an author in the context of taxonomic codes, so that text should presumably be removed. Perhaps more than just that sentence. I don't know whether it is quite "nonsense" in the sense of WP:CANTFIX but I'm not sure we need to keep it just because it is there now. As for whether these articles should be combined or separate, at least for me that mostly depends on scientific consensus. If there is such a consensus, then I'd organize the article according to the current classification, and then write a History section which can cover some of the messiness over the years. Unfortunately, I don't really have much expertise on that, what little I do have is out of date, and I haven't tried to read up on the current evidence. Kingdon (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Removed the worst bit, but we still have 2 articles where one might well do, and both need serious revision. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Stramenopile]] and [[Heterokont]]