Talk:Cumbrian dialect

message: An anonymous user edited several articles, including this one, with the claim that constalitisation is a term for Southern Hemisphere. I'm skeptical because generally dialects develop unique words for common, everyday things. To me, it doesn't have the ring of truth that people in northern England would use this term for the Southern Hemisphere.
I could be wrong though; maybe there's an interesting story behind it.
-- Wmahan. 05:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the edit history of Lancashire, you added the word to that page, as well as others. It seems a little disingenuous to point to your own edit as evidence. Do you have any other source to back up your claim? -- Wmahan. 21:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Constalitisation

message: Surely the noun or verb wolf as in eating is not unique to the Cumbrian dialect and is part of everyday English also I dont think twinning should be inlcxuding on the list either as being a Cumbrian word.  I won't remove them though till someone else agrees or disagrees with me --Penrithguy 21:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wolf is not unique to Cumbrin, example of Mackem:  "Eee man, he wolfed that down did'nee". Gazh 09:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialect words 

message: Hear are some more words, Some are realy obvious but can anyone comment on some of the others?
Bait     for lunch, packed lunch or any general food.
Byre     Cowshed used for Milking (Ah thurt shippon wus yarksha marra!)
Grockle  Mole, Tourist
Cubbye   Move to one side, get out of the way.
Blithering Annoying, being a pain in the neck (see below for example)
Blair    Not Tony or Cherrie but (Onomatopoeic) the noise made by a wanten heifer (not Eric) to announce to any Bull within about 6 miles that she is in season. "Eee Marra, I wus wokken up by that blitherin heifer blaring at 6am this marnin"
Ratch    Go through as if looking for something, usually when you shouldn't be or in a frantic manner, "I caught him  ratching thought my drawers", "the dog was ratching in the undergrowth"
Bogart   Any unseen creature making scary ratching noises in Hedgerows etc at night. Territorial spirit manifesting as half badger half fox (occurs in different forms throughout the north). 
Were these just school words or are they part of the dialect I never heard them used after leaving school in Carlisle (I later lived in West Cumbria?)
Mott      Girl (as refered to by boys)
Skeg      Money
Skegless  Out of control, Having lost ones marbles.
--Glass90land 19:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More words 

message: In terms of regional dialect societies, there is a Lakeland Dialect Society that covers most of Cumbria whilst the bits that used to be in Lancashire are covered by the Lancashire Dialect Society.  Would it better if this article were altered slightly so that it was just for Lakeland dialact and all bits that refer to the Barrow area be moved to the Lancashire article?
I am not from that part of the world, and hope that this suggestion does not offend anyone.  I don't know many people from that area neither, but those from Barrow whom I know could be classifed as "Lancastrian" in terms of speech.  I just made this suggestion so that it could fit in nicely with how dialect enthusiasts divide up the country.  Epa101 21:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Would it be better if this were an article for Lakeland dialect?

message: I have removed some words from the list which are not peculiarities of the dialect, but just represent phonetic changes consistent with those discussed earlier in the article e.g wuk (work) and mek (make)
'Ey oop' belongs to Coronation Street, not Cumberland
Many of the words which are classed as 'dialect' are not specific to Cumberland but across the whole of northern England and southern Scotland, for example Recke'd is nothing more than 'wrecked', our lass wife/girlfriend is used across the north, cus or cuz for cousin is common across most of England, twat hit someone ("I twatted him in the face") is common across the north and now across most of England and the British Isles, skit make fun of is common across the north and across most of England - in fact in the case of most of these words there is nothing particular to Cumberland other than they are not part of standard written English (but occur in speach in most areas).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.164.93 (talk) 01:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are still a few in there that are really just Cumbrian pronunciations rather than Cumbrian words. And I think "bift/bifter" for a cannabis joint, while commonly used in Cumbria, is hardly a Cumbrian peculiarity... 87.112.235.65 (talk) 19:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not possible to separate out words that are exclusively Cumbrian, but the Scots claim to have a separate language, even though most of their "special words" are common in Cumbrian and Northumbrian, or even just Middle English.  Coronation Street cannot claim exclusive rights to 'Ey oop' -- it was used throughout Northern England, including Cumbria and Yorkshire, long before the programme.  Dbfirs 07:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only genuine dialect words please 

message: Someone tagged the line about these words for a citation, although I am not sure what it refers to.  It could refer to either that this sound is also found in parts of Yorks and Lancs, or that it was once widespread in the country.  After looking on the Cambridge Dictionary website, I am not sure whether cue-er is not still the official pronounciation.  I am not an expert with linguistics, but it seems that cure is not supposed to rhyme with shore in Standard English:
Cure http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=18997&dict=CALD
Shore http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=73041&dict=CALD
The way that many southerners prounce "cure" rhymes with "shore".  Perhaps, just for once, it is they who are further from the Standard.  Epa101 22:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cure, sure, etc.

message: I cannot see any reason why this article is calssified for clean-up
Chasnor15 (talk) 07:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article OK

message: Could this be explained? Does it mean that the dialect is changing with time, influenced by neighbouring dialects, or that the dialect has sub-dialects which resemble sub-dialects of nearby areas?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 15:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: drift in accent

message: I've removed the column of 'Cumbric' Numerals from the section on Cumbrian Sheep Counting Numerals as they are purely ficitonal.Psammead (talk) 11:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Cumbric' Numerals

message: Is there evidence for this? If all accents drift towards others, why are there any distinctions in accent? How do accents arise if the trend is to standardisation?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 16:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Regional accents developed when there was much less communication between regions.  People on the border of a county would regularly hear the accents of those just over the border, so there is no fixed line, just a gradual change in accent.  (Borders change, too!).  Radio, TV, travel and education all contribute towards standardisation, but there are always people who like to retain the accent they heard when young.  Very many people "code-switch" between accents depending on whom they are communicating with.  Dbfirs 21:40, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: As in any county, there is a gradual drift in accent towards its neighbours.

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message: My Gran who was born in Alston but spent most of her life in Kirkoswald and Penrith used to say foundrel rather than funeral I'm not sure if this is a dialect word or was just her way of saying the word. Penrithguy (talk) 19:11, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundrel??