Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 4

message: Bogtrotter, similar to Bog Irish, refers to lower-class Irish people.
No it doesn't it refers to rednecks.(To the asshole who classed this as vandalism stop deleting everything you don't understand you puckered up buffoon)83.70.253.155 04:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bogtrotter and Hooligan

message: I would like this article to be deleted because it has slang, racist names which discriminates people and the redirection is filthy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Czesc26 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Get rid of it the Redirection is racist 

message: ;Banana : (U.S.) derogatory term for an East Asian with "white" mannerisms, e.g. "Yellow skin, white soul." Also an insult to Blacks, as it represents a food eaten by apes. Alternative Asian slur: "Twinkie"
*ESPN Magazine is reliable. Magazines have fact checkers.
*: ESPN Magazine mentions the word in passing, without any explanation. the reference invalid `'mikka 02:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I already have cited my sources here. Wikipedia:Verifiability suggests adding a  tag and discussing the issue, rather than just removing the material. You just said that the issue is verifiability, not truth, and obviously the material is verifiable as well as true. I probably wouldn't revert if you were more selective, but people added sources because you asked for them and now you're removing their contributions, anyway. THAT'S WRONG.--Chaco55 13:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You got  it wrong colleague. Once again, if you are confident in material and know sopurces, it is your obligation to add references: the old and new (Wikipedia:Attribution) policy clearly says: The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Since you are not doing this, I begin suspecting that you are simply trolling for fun of it, rather than to improve wikipedia.  `'mikka 19:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It shouldn't come as a surprise that Chaco55 is a sock puppet of banned user Primetime. This entire section may be removed. -Will Beback · † · 06:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  deletion from list 

message: I have become aware of the term "Canadian" being used to describe a minority when said minority may be in earshot in an attempt to cloak the speaker's intent. This seems to be most common in the northeast US and most commonly used by whites with respect to blacks. Given the nature of google, I am having a VERY hard time finding a citation for this, as (understandably) sifting through 1,000s of hits about ACTUAL Canadians is not easy. If anyone has a source they can cite, I would appreciate it, as I think the term belongs on the list. Thanks. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This usage is not a slur per se. `'mikka 19:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Wow, OK... I actually managed to find one link that I can use for "moolinyan", "moon cricket", and "Canadian". In other news... some people from New Jersey are not very nice.  --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sory, colleague, forums are not admiccible as reliable sources in wikipedia. While a forum may give you important keys for further search, you cannot refer to a forum as a source of wisdom. `'mikka 19:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I would agree if the issue was one of using the forum as a source for "The Sears Tower is 140 feet tall" or some other "fact", but this is a case of popular language usage, which a forum is a primary example of. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, obviously I cannot cite myself and/or my actual experience hearing this term and then having to ask what it meant. This is a very difficult topic to source properly. Like one editor pointed out it's not the same as sourcing the Sears Tower, etc. JMO. Jeeny 15:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for assistance 

message: (moved from talk pages)
Urban dictionary is not an admissible reference for wikipedia. `'mikka 02:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand, but in this respect, this 'term' is 'slang' therefore an informal definition of a word or term, in English, in a specific neighborhood, or used by a group or individual to refer to someone in a derogatory way. It is not a scientific term, it is slang. There is no need to 'cite' in the usual way, as one would to quote a person, or a statement that is made on a subject that is not an informal, individual, subjective TERM used to describe some people in a derogatory way. It's not nice, but it's a fact. And is used by some people, not all. It is slang!. Thank you. Jeeny 03:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read wikipedia's policy, wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. The sources like "urbandictioary" and "database of rasial slurs" are inadmissible because we don't know who wrote them. It may be any joker wh invented a new word just for fun of it. While the topic is informal and some topics in wikipedia like cow tipping are not serious at all, they all require serios sources to be in wikipedia. `'mikka 15:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for moving this here. I have changed the source since. Also, there are many, many (I believe to be) unreliable sources pointing to the footnotes of many of the terms in this whole article. Like you refered that any 'joker' can invent a new word. But, then again, that's how slurs start, I digress... check the footnotes without clickable links, just random names "Spears" etc to see what I'm talking about. Now this can be orignial resource, or just made up to look as though it is sourced but not actually in this so called book (I doubt there is such a book titled "Spears" or "Speers" with reference to these terms. It may be shortened to refer to an actual book, but this should be consistant by writting out the whole title of the book this 'term' supposedly cites. I have a problem with that more so than an urban dictionary sourcing a slang slur. Yet, I do agree with you, to a point to this subject only. Just to say. Cheers. Jeeny 15:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the follow up with Mr Mendosa, Section8pidgeon. I feel it's difficult finding historical sources for some slurs, as people come up with slurs all the time. Most do not stick, though, and are only used by a few people. There are many on this list that cite poorly, as I mentioned in my above comment. I attemped research of a few and I didn't find anything on them, but did not research long at all, so left them as they are. This type of subject, is ..well... subjective, mostly. I hate "slurs" anyway, so I think I'll stay away. Again, thanks! Jeeny 14:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  925 

message: Term used for black jews in the U.S. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wickanprince (talk • contribs) 18:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blew

message: Support  The article named in the section header was started today (march 31) apparently only to attempt a hostile merger with Chinaman, where the creator of "English language names" has, along with an IP user known as 4.x.x. who appears to be a sock, hotly opposed content discussions/expansion and wants to hold to one position only (long story; see Talk:Chinaman and its archive, also the talkpage at Chinaman (disambiguation).  So as soon as the English language names for Chinese people article was made, he put the merge tempate on Chinaman, as his previous effort to merge it with Chink failed miserably.  The merge agenda for Chinaman->English language names for Chinese people is a hostile merger, whereas here I am recommended that his precious (and incomplete) list of what English people call Chinese people already exists as part of THIS page (List of ethnic slurs).  To my knowledge there are not pages such as English language names for Irish people or English language names for Italian people, although a full discussion of Chinese language names for non-Chinese people would surely be revealing.  Whatever; the point is that the English language list is redundant re content of THIS page and should properly be  merged here, if not just deleted outright.Skookum1 04:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thx.....this should prove entertaining....;-)  Skookum1 06:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Chink and Chinaman, like other words listed on this page and e.g. the N-word, already have articles, and the latter is about to go through a major expansion beyond its current pejorative-only content.  The English language names for Chinese people page is an attempt to build a list of ethnic slurs on the Chinese as he doesn't want them to have separate pages (too many conflicting bits of evidence get in his way), only disguising it by including non-offensive words.Skookum1 07:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like a single, large article could be too large, and thus spinoffs on the "primary" words would be more informative. Wahkeenah 07:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Having now skimmed through the talk page, it's hard to figure why that guy is on such a rant on this issue. It's also clear that, in general, those terms don't have quite the same connotation. If someone used the term "Chinaman" now, they would seem to be out of touch with the times, at best, because no one really uses that term any more. "Chink", however, is nothing but offensive. I also found it ironic that the guy who's so obsessed with this topic would several times refer to a "laundry list". Talk about your stereotypes... Wahkeenah 07:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "People who don't learn anything about stereotypes are doomed to repeat them" to coin a phrase....but as for "being out of touch with the times" I'd also submit that urban people are very much out of touch with the rural/wilderness people, esp. in Canada (where chinaman and other "obsolete" words remain in currency, despite being "out of touch" with urban intellectuals and their judgements of the past, and of others unlike them....); but for a cetain kind of ball thrown in cricket, for a line or type of figurines, for a certain kind of Indiana political backer it remains in use, and in the past it's also been for a ship in the china trade, or for a china dealer.  But even in modern scholarship and literature it remains a symbol/archetype, as in the writings of Frank Chin and Bo Yang and others, and in the adopted names of a rapper, a comedian, a Canadian website (www.chinaman.ca, which hasn't had much done with it...), and more.  Uncle G and his coterie don't want to admit to any of this; they just want it merged as a way of silencing it as it conflicts with their own one-note campaign about it; his inclusion of non-derisive words and non-derisive uses for Chinaman wouldn't have happened without all the material we've assembled and fielded in the course of arguing about that article.  And as I've told him, he should read Bo Yang and have a good long hard look in the mirror......Skookum1 07:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those subtleties have obviously escaped me. But there certainly seems to be enough material on each of the terms to justify two articles. Wahkeenah 23:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing subtle about this at all.  Please see the AFD for the mergefrom page.Skookum1 23:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge of [[English language names for Chinese people]]

message: This is such a common word in Canadian hate-slang I was surprised to NOT see it here; it may be somewhat uncitable because it's a real zinger and not likely to appear in print/media; fiction maybe I guess (e.g. in Thomson Highway's works maybe, or W.P. Kinsella's).  It basically means an Indian or First Nations person, or someone who's even got a part Indian in them, and it infers drunkenness (from "chug-a-lug", which I expect is fairly universal in the anglosphere....).Skookum1 07:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chug

message: Also a term for Indian, and when pejorative or when perceived as pejorative it's highly so, although it remains in passive placename use here and there (esp. and most notably Siwash Rock in Vancouver's Stanley Park).  It's widespread in the Pacific Northwest, although less so than previously because of increased settlement from outside diluting the local argot (including other local words like my own tag skookum as well as hyak, hyas, saltchuck, or even the weather meaning of Chinook, which most people today associate not with a warm, wet coastal southwesterly but the so-called "snow-eater" east of the Rockies.  Anyway, "siwash" is considered by most American native peoples to be highly derisive, esp. among those educated in the creolized version of the Chinook Jargon where siwash (SAI-wash) the derogatory form, is distinguished from sawash (sa-WASH), which simply is noun or adjective for "Indian" without any pejorative form; but outside of there the second usage is known and the derisive is much more to be assumed (although many First Nations people in BC might just shrug, or use it themselves....or not).  Both are derived from fr. le sauvage, which of course itself can also be considered a derisive, and its cognate in English ("savage") usually is (when applied to a group of people).....Skookum1 07:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Siwash

message: I've heard "frostback", which I also expected to find here; and also "snow niggers" in the film industry (an obviously derisive ref to cheap Canadian labour and different culture/lifestyle/attitudes).  Usually snow+something for us in the States we hear as "snowbird", which really means a wintertime getaway type...but I understand it can be derisive in Florida and Arizona...."Cheesehead" is another one, although I gather that has derisive uses within the states - for Wisconsinites is it? - but in what I suppose is a purely localized context it's used in Whatcom County and Skagit County for Canadian cross-border shoppers; partly because a lot of immediate x-border traffic in the Valley (i.e. the Lower Fraser Valley, which borders on Whatcom County) is Dutch/German ethnic (Mennonites abound) but also because cheese and other dairy products are cheaper "south of the line" and Canadian shoppers typically have heaps of the stuff in their shopping carts.  I mean, how much cheddar can you eat in one week?Skookum1 08:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Snowback? cf Frostback, Cheesehead et al

message: As a Welsh-speaking South Walian who now lives in North Wales, I would like make the following observations - 
North Walians are indeed referred to as 'Gogs', not only by South Walians but by North Walians themselves. 
In much the same way, South Walians are often referred to as 'Hwntws'(which isn't listed) again, by both North Walians and fellow South Walians.
In my experience, neither is considered derogatory. They are regional nicknames than slurs, and so I think they should both appear on that page, not under 'Ethnic Slurs'. 
Obviously any term can be applied in a derogatory sense, just as some people may also perceive as offensive a term that has previously been used in a friendly manner. It doesn't mean Political Correctness has to override Common Sense. Dawnswraig 10:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Gog' is not a slur 

message: Some terms are being removed when they should not be: the term "darkie" for example is still used in the UK (at least in some regions) - yet it was removed as being "obselete". Just thought I'd point out that just because one area doesn't use a term anymore, other places might still. "Wog" in Australia, as I understand, is still used, more than other places that use "wog" (although I'm not 100% sure on this). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.156.2.85 (talk) 03:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much deletion... 

message: The sand nigger definition appears twice in the article. Please fix. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.223.231.228 (talk) 00:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition repeated 

message: I altered the 'definition' of nappy headed (and removed the word ho). DocGratis 10:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nappy 

message: -Swell (White)
-Oona (Black)
-Buckra (White)
Sharts: "That C-Colonel Shaw. He a hard man."
Trip: "He's Swell. Just a nigger-beating Swell."
Contraband: "Oona march better than me. Oona march like a Buckra soldier."
Thomas: "What?"
Rawlins: "He says we march like White Soldiers."
--Arima 17:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic Slurs used in "Glory (1989)" 

message: Add Durka Durka in there because i'm very tired and offended of this phrase, along with fellow south asian students. If "ching chong" is in there, then "durka" should too.
It is a mockery of south asian/middle eastern languages.
:Is "durka" used outside of that one movie? -Will Beback · † · 20:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DURKA

message: Why is the term "nappy-headed ho's" in here?
Nappy headed ho's is not considered to be any kind of ethnic slur anywhere.
I have never heard anyone other than Imus ever use it.
True: Nappy-headed simply refers hair that looks as if one has just gotten up from a nap (or to a black person's curly hair), while "ho" refers to women who live a certain alternative sexual lifestyle, and is derived from "whore". While Don Imus's remaks were offensive, racist, and sexist, the term he used was not in and of itself an ethnic slur. --FungalSheep 19:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Don Imus

message: this is an irreprehensible word used against people of middle eastern decent and muslims. it is unbelievably popular, and used as the number one choice to offend middle easterners, mainly arabs and persians. this word should be added as a ethnic slur.
"terrorist" is not a slur. It's a person who commits acts of violence to draw publicity to their cause and apply political pressure, usually through guerilla means. Terrorists exist in all different parts of the world, including the Middle East, South Asia, Africa, Ireland, Spain, and the Americas. Calling a non-terrorist Arab a terrorist isn;t so much a slur as a false accusation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.173.38.137 (talk) 18:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terrorist

message: Come on, why isn't this in there? Term for an Australian, used in Britain. Anglo-pilferer, personally, I've never heard of. 82.163.182.119 10:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convict 

message: I have heard the terms "Porridge Wog" and "Bagpipe Nigger" used to denote a Scotsman. Ref found elsewhere in the wiki along with "Sawney" which is new to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawney
Jonewer 08:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scots 

message: This word is to describe a black person, and 50 Cent mentioned it in Hustler's Ambition, in the last line of the last verse, by saying Racist, pointin at me, look at the niggaracci, hello. But it is also one of Snoop Dogg's nicknames. It should be added- SCB '92 15:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niggaracci 

message: I think this is what Eastern Asians call white people of America, probably Koreans in Korea Town, Los Angeles. Should it be added?- SCB '92 15:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If we have a reliable source for that infor, then yes, let's add it. -<B> ·:·</B> Will Beback  ·:·  20:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitey 

message: Was attempting to research the word "Mook" as I have a friend who grew up in New York and always used the term. Was unable to find it through wikipedia but Mavens' Word of the Day has a great resource on it. 
"Mooks spend money and can keep you in the black, but they don't make for a very attractive social environment....By Mooks I mean not only outer-borough types and out-and-out greaseballs, but Wall Streeters, unattractive and socially useless Eurotrash, advertising execs and Upper East Siders." (New York Press, 1995). 
--Finchzero 19:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: THe given reference seems to say that it is not an ethnic slur. What is your point? `'юзырь:mikka 23:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mook 

message: Has this ever been in active use outside of the film Clerks II? I got the impression it was made up by Kevin Smith pretty much --71.118.86.3 04:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porchmonkey 

message: Please remove "ignorant, uneducated" from the definition of wigger. Neither property is a defining characteristic of a wigger. The article wigger also suggests the term is in use in Britain as well, so "(North America)" can be removed too. 12:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see consensus for this change before the editprotected request is re-enabled and fulfilled. Also, please sign your posts using ~~~~ . Cheers. --MZMcBride 19:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested edit 

message: *Porch monkey has existed and occured long before Clerks II. Therefore, i assure the term was not merely created for that film. it's  a genuine term, so I assure you that I did not make it up.
I got 990,000 Goggle results for porch monkey (without quotes)
I got 62,000 Google results for porch monkey with quotation marks.
Adamv88 23:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue is not the number of hits, but finding a reference admissible for wikipedia among them. If one can use google to find a word, why would you need wikipedia at all? Our goal is to provide  a well-referenced encyclopedia, not just a heap of words (which already exists out there in the whole wide world wide web). `'юзырь:mikka 23:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously, it's not a mater of hits, but I merely mentioned the search statistics for the sake of demonstrating its prevalence. It's just that in a related post earlier this year, someone questioned its genuineness, and thought that it was just a neologism created specifically for a movie. I merely mentioned Clerks II because it was the most recent example of its use. Adamv88 22:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  porch monkey 

message: If a white person gets a tan, would the person become a nigga?- SCB '92 13:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tannned 

message: "Guapo," in Spanish, means "handsome," not "thug." See: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Guapo
Also Mrs. Slocum in Are you being served?  referred to her no show Greek husband to be as a WOP
"Guappo" (with two "p's") is the Italian word for thug. Source:
http://media.www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2004/09/28/Features/The-Vocab.Lesson.You.Never.Had-732963.shtml
Andrew60647 18:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re Wop and Guapo 

message: Is a reference to a newcommer to Alaksa - it is NOT necessarily a derogative, and it's specifically referring to folks who have just arrived but intend to stay or have not experienced one full winter.--Rosie 02:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chichacko or Cheechacko 

message: Surprised not to see the racial slur "cheese". I have been called racist for telling people "I like Cheese." They probably thought I meant "infatuation." I found out what it meant too-"asian". Being half-Asian, I wasn't quite sure why I hadn't been called "Cheese".--69.234.187.134 00:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surprised 

message: In South Park, Eric Cartman calls this to Kyle, being a ginger without freckles- SCB '92 13:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daywalker 

message: I wouldn't consider chav an ethnic slur at all. There is no racial standing involved in anyway at all.
its just what middle class english kids collectively call poor people and the generally less educated,, the facists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkpdisgettingwellpretentious (talk • contribs) 15:10, July 23, 2007
:In practice, used exclusively of white people -- what in the US might be equivalent to "poor white trash". BrainyBabe 15:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chav 

message: Wigger-White person, usually of American descent, said to act like a black person. Nathan8889 23:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to be confused with Uigars, a Central Asian people -- yes, they really exist, and yes, there really was a discussion on Wikipedia about whether or not to disambiguate them! Not much overlap in reality...BrainyBabe 15:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wigger 

message: According to a front-page article in The Vancouver Sun, it is against the policies of at least one public corporation to add ethnic slurs to this List of ethnic slurs: Talk:WikiScanner#Article in Vancouver Sun, 2007-08-25. --Mathew5000 15:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More precisely, "adding ethnic slurs to Wikipedia was "definitely" in violation of the corporation's policies for at-work Internet use" (my emphasis).BrainyBabe 12:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Typical canuk carry on, censorship is the road to hell.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.253.155 (talk) 03:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article in Vancouver Sun, 2007-08-25 

message: Short for Anglophone... english speaking person in Quebec. It's not pejorative...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.80.52.243 (talk) 18:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglo 

message: What exactly is a "yard ape"?  I saw the term on YouTube but I couldn't find anything on it.  It just sounds funny, so I question if it actually exists. DigitalNinja 23:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yard Ape 

message: 'Carbine killer'. liberal hatespeak for gun right activists/voters. Apparently derived from the mail order M1 carbine trade that existed before the 1968 Gun Control Act. Minipugzilla 22:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a source describing that slur then we can add it.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add it to the political slurs list; not the ethnic slurs list. ~ Switch (✉✍☺☒) 09:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This slur I heard as a kid 

message: Should 'Widescreen' be added? Its a slur for east/southeast asians, referring to their eyes Militärschokolade 19:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a source describing that slur then we can add it.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 19:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Widescreen 

message: Hi. Why is this page on my watchlist? I know I had seven dirdy words or something like that on my watchlist, but not this. Did someone revently move or redirect something to do with this page? I've never editted this page before. Ah well, I find this page not that interesting, but still interesting enough for me to keep on my watchlist. Likelyoften vandalised too, so I'll keep watching it. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 21:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles can be added to watchlists when they're moved. In this case, a vandal () moved this page to "HAGGER?????????????????". He also moved "Anarchism" and "India" to the same name, so if either of those articles were on your watchlists then this article would have been cross-added too.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  why? 

message: Excuse me, what is this sentence supposed to mean? 
"Chinese Coolies have a long history and Chinese are still exploited Coolies." 
The statement itself is racial and the cited article is a racial generization as well.  It should be omitted.  Thank you.Master Liang 01:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  coolie 

message: Used in parts of Louisiana often pejoratively for people of Cajun descent or with pride if used in self-reference by a Cajun person. 192.88.158.212 19:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[coonass]] 

message: Since I can't edit the page...
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...stan - (eastern european and russian) backward country. Usaly used in compounds, like Katsapstan (Russia), Pindostan (USA).
Aboriginals - (Aborigeni) russian name for eastern europeans. Mostly used by russian immigrants in these countries. Is used for latvians and bulgarians.
Gans - (russian) in Russia: germans, In Latvia: latvians. Derived from word Hans.
Labusi - Russian detoragatory name usaly for latvians and sometimes for Lithuanians.
Pindos - (russian) an american. Originaly it was almoust forgotten ukrainian slang word for southern europeans, but during Balkan wars was used by russian army for americans. Now is widespread among russian speakers. Word rhyme with russian slang word for homosexualists - pidari. Alsou sometimes USA is called Pindostan. 
Rusaki - russians. Sometimes used by Russia's national minorities.
Tibla - (estonian) russians and soviets. Originated from russian words 'ti blja'.
Urlas - used by latvians, with meaning russian or chav. Originated from word orli (орлы, eagles) self name of late soviet teenage criminals. Russian equivalent of word is gopniki (гопники). Edo 555 08:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic slurs for russians or by russians 

message: I noticed that someone had removed this recently. I have heard the phrase but was wondering if it really a subcultural slur rather than an ethnic one. The argument would be that the person using the slur has the same ethnicity as, but different values to, the target of the slur. Petecarney 11:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bounty Bar 

message: Hi, I'm just some mexican guy who was reading this. Gringo does not refer to white people, but to americans specifically. (Not offending, just making a point).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.149.71.69 (talk) 16:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gringo 

message: This is a very common term in Canada (particularly in Ontario) used by Italian-Canadians in reference   to Canadians of British descent. Literally, it means "cake-eater" and often substituted with "caker". Though somewhat mild, it may be viewed in a pejorative light due to its underlying insuations that British Canadians lack any cultural sophistication, especially in terms of cuisine: that they eat "cakes" (i.e. peanut butter and jam sandwiches on processed bread) for lunch, as opposed to the comparatively vast plethora of dishes served on an Italian siesta. --Csladic 18:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you  provide a valid reference, per wikipedia:Verifiability policies, from reputable sources? `'Míkka 22:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mangiacake" 

message: yo y da fucc dem racists call blackz monkeys we're humans just like the whiteys the latins and the asians were all just lookin different. (nobody ever called me a monkey and i am black). oh, and please add the words devil, peckerwood, hick and honkey to the text (a white person)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.178.210.132 (talk) 00:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: - Sorry, no reliable/verifiable source that this can be attributed to, so this is considered original research. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 00:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monkey 

message: The S--Goon Noot 06:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fix 

message: To select better slurs to use on your opposing editors? These probably belong to the Urban dictionary not in a serious dictionary. Suva Чего? 05:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole article is tagged anyway. Considering that it's a big "0" on the editorial communal good will generation scale I personally would not mind seeing the whole thing deleted. Some topics are better left for professional/scholarly encyclopedias and dictionaries. PētersV 17:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The tag is removed as misused. All entries are kept referenced to reputable sources, hence the WP:NPOV policy is inapplicable. If you find unreferenced entries, you are free to remove them on the first sight. `'Míkka 18:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text:  Took a poke around some more and after numerous AfD's it's likely it's here to stay (free speech, repulsive but informative, look at the number of terms it already includes--well, duh!, etc.). IMHO, providing a venue for creating and maintaining an inventory of real or alleged hate speech terms  in print in other than a professionally/academically mediated environment is a choice lacking in both intellectual and moral integrity. But if it's to stay, it's into the fray. :-( PētersV 18:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia has its own rules to ensure "intellectual and moral integrity". They don't always work well and easily, but  are you sure that academicians always have "moral integrity" and don't sell themselves for grants? `'Míkka 18:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  At least in that case everyone knows the money trail. If the money comes from special interests, then one has more suspicions than if it comes from funding sources widely acknowledged as neutral. It's rather unlikely the Cambridge Dictionary, for example, would be hijacked by special interests. PētersV 20:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the hell we need this article? 

message: Haven't changed anything, but as I recall the term came from the ancient French royal coat of arms (technically I think it was three toads, not frogs), from which the French commoners themselves then colloquially referred to themselves as frogs (in French of course), that later being simply carried over and translated into the English (popped up as early as the 1700's I think). The frog legs are a great association, but nothing to do with the origin of the term. Don't have a reference handy, though... PētersV 18:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I vaguely remember that Jules Verne's Paganel referred to habit of eating frog legs as source of slur. This is 1867 AD and by that time version seem to be such a common knowledge that Verne (French) did not hesitate to use it.RJ CG 19:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Frog

message: I thought about adding another ethnic slur I am aware of, but I have a little problem with that. The etymology of the word is controversial and might cause another editwar, so I thought about talking this straight in the talk page first.
The common misconseption is that tiblad derives from "ty blad" commonly used russian vulgar phrase basically meaning "you whore". At the same time estonian linguists have found the etymology unfeasible because estonians would never transliterate "Ты" to "Ty" or "Ti" like english language speakers to. So the most probable estonian transliteration would be "tõbla" or "tõblas". I have heard the latter in some context (just as a curse word not as an ethnic slur though).
More probable etymology is offered by estonian veterans who have claimed that the word came from word "debiil" (imbecile) from war era when soldiers used that word to describe red army soldiers, who used (for the lack of better word) idiotic battle strategies: Running with masses into machinegun fire etc. 
Any comments? Suva Чего? 09:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. It's more used to refer to ethnic russian criminals and street vandals and not russians in general. Suva Чего? 10:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In Estonian, isn't tiblad simply the plural form of tibla? So I don't see how it could possibly be derived from "ty blad". Since the term was reportedly used during WW2 and also apparently during the Independence War, I'd say there is some substance to what Estonian war veterans say. Martintg 11:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes tiblad is plural for tibla. Suva Чего? 11:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: To me "debiil" version looks like classical modern smoke and mirror PR action hastily put together in order to bury commonly accepted version which was not to action author's liking. Taking into account that usage of this word by mainsteam Estonian-speaking media caused several scandals and even investigation by authorities, I suspect that we owe "debiil" version to one of those scandals. Now to why I don't believe "debiil" version even for a split second. Version is based on pictures of "Russian peasant cannon fodder fed to superior Westers armament by arrogant/drunk/clumsy/incompetent generals" all-too-familiar to Western imagination. I would not go to a great debates regarding truthfulness of this picture, but I don't think anyone on the West doubts an ability of the Russian army to field enough troops to feed to several Estonian machineguns. And here lies main reason why I consider "debiil" version false. Soviets could NOT field large troops on the North-West in the Spring-Summer of 1919. Hastily assembled and poorly equipped 20,000 strong force of Yudenich chased Soviets all the way to SPb suburbs and this happened AFTER radical reorg undertaken by Trotsky. Saying that Reds could send thousands and thousands upon thousands to die attacking Estonian machinguns is something like saying that troops of Moctezuma II were fighting Spanish from the horseback. Why, we all know that mustangs are aplenty there, right? And I don't even want to start to discuss ability of Red Army commanders at this moment to send whole units on suicide missions. Don't forget, these were the very same troops who executed their officers for having the gall to order to resist German attacks mere months before, not to suicidally attack machinegun position across the open field. Any of those factors take even passing whiff of plausibility off those statements, and together they just kill it on the spot, sorta like brave Estonian soldier killing thousands of Russian subhumans in this urban legend :) RJ CG 19:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: P.S. I vaguely remember an attempt of some Estonian wikipedian to sell this urban legend some time before, but moving it's origin to Winter War and Estonian volunteers who fought Russians there. It all ended up when some other wikipedian found an Estonian text dating from 1920-1930s which used the word. I think we're witnessing an attempt to "sell" this legend again, but to move it farther in time in order to avoid new screwup. I wonder what next? Great Northern War? :) RJ CG 19:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's remarkable that you know exactly what it means, while there is uncertainty amongst Estonians themselves. Obviously the word may sounds similar to "a whore" in Russian, but then the word "wit" means intelligence in english, white in dutch, and in Estonian is sounds like the slang word "cunt". Also, it's pronounced "teeb-la", so the stress does not correspond to the Russian pronounciation "ty, blya". French 'débile' sounds like a much more likely etymology. Martintg 00:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You misunderstood my position, which does not surprise me at all. I am not offering an alternative explanation to the term, I just said that an attempt to trace origin of this term to 1919-1920 is based on the utter ignorance about Russia of the day. Although I should thank you for your attempt at "linguistic" analysis. I had a good laugh. RJ CG (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiblad 

message: Please refrain from being a total bellend and deleting all my edits. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatcud (talk • contribs) 23:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please follow wikipedia rules. This one is summarized in Wikipedia:Verifiability and WP:RS. `'Míkka 23:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mikkalai 

message: I have noted an important omission for this page - 'Wog', a commonly used slur against black people dating back to 1920s Britain in all likelihood originating from the popular doll character of the late 19th century known as 'Golliwogg'. The history of this character is steeped in debate surrounding racist appropriation, and as such would make a valuable addition to the list and add some points of social contextual and historical interest. I am aware of the term still occasionally being used in England today, and similarly the use of Golliwogs in merchandising recently has also been a target of debate. See the other well made wikipedia entry for golliwogg for credibility, where there is also a link provided as to a connection between the character and the etymology of the term. Lemden 20:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right about the omission, but distionaries are inconclusive as to the origin. `'Míkka 22:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wog 

message: Definition number two for the word 'Nigger' is misleading, i.e. "(2) A member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons." The word 'Nigger' refers to African Americans specifically, not to "disadvantaged class of persons". It is misleading because it can be inferred that 'Nigger' also applies to other groups of people, such as Native Americans, simply because they are a disadvantaged class of persons.
:I would suggest you to always look into dictionaries to verify your knowledge before talking things. http://www.dictionary.com may save you money and a trip to a library. `'Míkka 03:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional definition for 'Nigger'

message: I think the term blackamoor should be added to the list, what do you think? 156.34.211.66 (talk) 02:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Blackamoor (slang)]] 

message: I don't have any citation for this but I've heard that cracker is actually referring to, "one who cracks the whip."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinman (talk • contribs) 01:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cracker