Talk:King Caesar

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
King Caesar → King Shisa — I have seen nothing official with the Caesar spelling that existed before 2000, while the character was introduced in 1974.  The name appears to be a retcon by an anonymous copywriter. Scottandrewhutchins 18:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
# Support  Unlike Anguirus, the name appears to have been retroactively assigned. --Scottandrewhutchins 13:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments:
Please show some proof that the character has been known as King Caesar since 1974. --Scottandrewhutchins 12:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Give it up. No one is on your side so drop this King Shisa name. It's annoying everyone, your ignoring the proof everyone is showing you, your being a stubborn little kid, and this is really getting old, so just drop it already. And let me guess, your going tattle on me because I said no one is going on your side and I told you to deal with the name King Caesar. That's something a six year old whould do. --Naruto134 00:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I count four people on my side and one person on yours.  You're obviously not any better at math than you are at etymology or spelling. You told me the deal, but that doens't amke it true.  You supplied evidence that the name currently stands on the DVD, but when I asked you for something of the film's vintage, you insulted me.  That is what a six year-old "whould" do.--Scottandrewhutchins 13:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: That's because they're idiots. --Naruto134 00:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ^Flagrant violation of WP:Civility.  Apparently your definition of "idiot" is someone who disagrees with a 15-year-old kid like you.  --Scottandrewhutchins 14:24, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Ah hello? Those are the trivias to the japanese versions of the movies. Isn't obvious? Give it up. Don't you realize your annoying everyone? Quit being a little child and trying to revert this page to the japanese name. Same goes to Kamoebas and Kamacuras. --Naruto134 9:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one being childish is you.--Scottandrewhutchins 14:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah right! How am I being childish? Oh yeah, that's what I thought. Your just saying because your having a temper because King Caesar won't be changed to Shisa. When someone says that your being childish and you say the same to them, now that is being childish. Now end this discussion. --Naruto134 00:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are constantly spewing insults and violating WP:Civility.  I am simply stating my case and having to deal with nonsense from you.--Scottandrewhutchins 14:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. But, wouldn't you know, the history's somewhere else, so it looks like I'm going to be moving pages anyway. Given that, and given that until the page was moved from "King Caesar" the first time, there weren't any move wars, it's going back there, and anyone who wants it changed can try to find consensus for changing it. Our naming conventions do not concern themselves too much with which is the most correct transliteration, or when names came into fashion. It's an absurd name, but "King Caesar" is more common than "King Shisa", and there it will stay. --Stemonitis 17:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
# Support  Unlike Anguirus, the name appears to have been retroactively assigned. --Scottandrewhutchins 13:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: # Support  Unlike Anguirus, the name appears to have been retroactively assigned. --Scottandrewhutchins 13:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in support of the move

message: # Opposed Doesn't matter if it's a retcon or not, since "King Caesar" is trademarked, that's officially the character's name. Furthermore, this is the english wikipedia and the character's name has been "King Caesar" outside of Japan since 1974. Ergo, we leave it as is. Please. WHY is this even an issue? K00bine 02:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

message: :Add any additional comments:
Please show some proof that the character has been known as King Caesar since 1974. --Scottandrewhutchins 12:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Give it up. No one is on your side so drop this King Shisa name. It's annoying everyone, your ignoring the proof everyone is showing you, your being a stubborn little kid, and this is really getting old, so just drop it already. And let me guess, your going tattle on me because I said no one is going on your side and I told you to deal with the name King Caesar. That's something a six year old whould do. --Naruto134 00:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I count four people on my side and one person on yours.  You're obviously not any better at math than you are at etymology or spelling. You told me the deal, but that doens't amke it true.  You supplied evidence that the name currently stands on the DVD, but when I asked you for something of the film's vintage, you insulted me.  That is what a six year-old "whould" do.--Scottandrewhutchins 13:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: That's because they're idiots. --Naruto134 00:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ^Flagrant violation of WP:Civility.  Apparently your definition of "idiot" is someone who disagrees with a 15-year-old kid like you.  --Scottandrewhutchins 14:24, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Ah hello? Those are the trivias to the japanese versions of the movies. Isn't obvious? Give it up. Don't you realize your annoying everyone? Quit being a little child and trying to revert this page to the japanese name. Same goes to Kamoebas and Kamacuras. --Naruto134 9:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one being childish is you.--Scottandrewhutchins 14:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah right! How am I being childish? Oh yeah, that's what I thought. Your just saying because your having a temper because King Caesar won't be changed to Shisa. When someone says that your being childish and you say the same to them, now that is being childish. Now end this discussion. --Naruto134 00:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are constantly spewing insults and violating WP:Civility.  I am simply stating my case and having to deal with nonsense from you.--Scottandrewhutchins 14:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Although I don't know how reliable this source is, here's an excerpt from （無理矢理）怪獣学の部屋, by HANNYADOU (般若堂), showing the list of copyrights for Godzilla-related kaiju names:
#King Kong is a trademark of Universal Studios. 
#Alien[s] from Nebula Space Hunter M (or Space Hunter M Alien[s]), Alien[s] from the Third Planet in the Black Hole (or Black Hole Alien[s]), Anguirus (or Angilas), Baby Godzilla, Baragon, Battra, Biollante, Dagahra (or Dagarah), Death Ghidorah, Destroyah, Dogora, Ebirah, Fairy Mothra, Fire Rodan, Gabara, Gaila (or Gaira or Green Gargantua), Ganime, Gezora, Gigan, Godzilla, Godzillasaurus, Gorosaurus, Hedorah, Jet Jaguar, Kaiser Ghidorah, Kamakiras (or Kamacuras or Gimantis), Kameba, Kilaak[s], King Ghidorah (or King Ghidrah, or Ghidrah, or Ghidorah, or Ghidora), King Seesar (or King Caesar), Kumonga (or Spiga), Little Godzilla, Magma, Manda, Matango, Megalon, Millennian, Minilla, Monster X, Mothra (of all forms), Orga (or Oruga), Rodan, Sanda (or Brown Gargantua), SpaceGodzilla, Varan, Xilians (or Xiliens), Zilla - are trademarks of Toho Co., Ltd. (Titanosaurus is a correct name of a dinosaur genus, and not to be treated as a trademark of Toho Co., Ltd.) 
#Barugon, Gamera, Guiron, Gyaos, Irys (or Iris), Jiger, Legion, Space Gyaos, Viras & Zigra - are trademarks of Kadokawa Pictures, Inc. (former Kadokawa-Daiei Co., Ltd.). 
#Gappa is a trademark of Nikkatsu Corporation. 
#Guilala is a trademark of Shochiku Co., Ltd. 
#Gavora, Magla, Nelonga & Pagos - are trademarks of Tsuburaya Prod.
Please note that "King Seesar (or King Caesar)" is listed here as the trademark(s) of Toho.--Endroit 09:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. But, wouldn't you know, the history's somewhere else, so it looks like I'm going to be moving pages anyway. Given that, and given that until the page was moved from "King Caesar" the first time, there weren't any move wars, it's going back there, and anyone who wants it changed can try to find consensus for changing it. Our naming conventions do not concern themselves too much with which is the most correct transliteration, or when names came into fashion. It's an absurd name, but "King Caesar" is more common than "King Shisa", and there it will stay. --Stemonitis 17:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright info

message: I erased this: "The theme song for King Caesar, "Kingu Shisa", has a tune very simalar to "Chim Chim Cher-ee" from Mary Poppins. However, Disney fiercely protects it's copyrighted subjects, making the last statement questionable." First because it's not relevant, but also because it doesn't sound at all like the Mary Poppins song (or not enough to be a problem) and because of "last statement questionable". Why do we need to make these kind of things up ? - Cyrus 13:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Theme Song

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message: "While King Caesar looks entirely organic, the reality is King Caesar is almost entirely mechanical, his body is shaped by metal frames and his pelvic area holds two giant energy containers"
PLEASE cite the evidence for this and encompassing statements. The stated [in film] supernatural origin and nature of the creature would seem to be in conflict with any cybernetic aspect, or need for one. The passage seems like fanboy-ish daydreaming, so if this isn't substantiated it should be removed. --69.124.112.126 (talk) 17:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "King Caesar is almost entirely mechanical?"