Talk:Eric Foner

message: Does anyone have a source supporting him being Namoi FG's brother. Some places are reporting him as her ex-husband.
16:03, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Sources

message: A user recently reverted my changes to his new material saying they were "POV edits with an ax to grind." They were mostly a cleanup and adding internal links. I recommend that others look through the history and see which version is less POV, as the article currently stands, David Horowitz is called an "extreme rightwing critic" and the war in Iraq is specifically "George W. Bush's Iraq war". --Cúchullain t/c 05:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is undoubtedly skewed - an editor was adding as much negative material as possible. If you can improve it please do. -Will Beback 09:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: I noticed that several anonymous users blanked the bio section and introduced puerile errors into the text. I have reverted all of it back to 
 20:27, September 11, 2006 LeoO3 (Talk | contribs) m (→Criticism)
While a few edits, including by me, are missed, it is better than what the little kids introduced. Skywriter 19:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverts

message: Kevin C. Murphy, one of his graduate students, praises Foner: "Beloved by undergraduates and reviled by right-wing ideologues, Columbia University's Eric Foner is arguably the world's foremost authority on the tumultuous period of American Reconstruction (1865-1877). Foner placed newly freed Africans-Americans at the center of the post-Civil War story and, in so doing, illustrated the brief moments of political and social possibility available for Southern blacks before the racial and economic discrimination of Jim Crow was enthroned throughout the 'New South.'" [13]
First, what is the point of having just some random graduate student's praise of Foner in here? Does this Kevin Murphy have anything that makes him more significant than another student who might criticize him? 
Second, are the parentheses for Reconstruction part of Murphy's text or was it added in, because either way, the dates are wrong. Reconstruction started at least in 1863 with Lincoln's 10% plan and 1864's subsequent Wade-Davis bill. One could even argue that Reconstruction started in 1861 with the Sea Isles experiments off South Carolina. At any rate, either (a) the dates should be corrected or (b) it should be made more clear whether or not these dates are part of this Murphy's quote or was included by the editors of wikipedia. 66.10.167.1 14:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody pasted in the Murphy quote from Murphy's blog. The problemn with the entire article is that it says very little about Foner's ideas or scholarly contributions--it's mostly froth. It says zip about his major work on Freedom, on history of political values in GOP, in Tom Paine, etc, and does not say exactly why he's so important re Reconstruction. In all, a poor article about a major historian. Rjensen 14:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you on all accounts. There needs to be some major reworking on this article. 66.10.167.1 05:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect factual information

message: One version of our text says:
*Foner, in turn, has asked conservatives why they appeal to racism, questioning why modern conservatives such as Gale Norton and John Ashcroft continue to praise the Confederacy.
Another version says:
*Foner, in turn, has attacked conservative office holders for granting interviews to reporters for magazines that previously published articles favorable to the Confederacy.
The source says:
* Two of President Bush's Cabinet nominees--Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft and the prospective Secretary of the Interior, Gale Norton--are being asked to explain their praise of the Confederacy. In a 1996 speech to a conservative group, Norton likened her struggle to preserve states' rights to the Confederate rebellion, saying, "We lost too much" when the Union triumphed. Ashcroft, in a 1998 interview, lauded the magazine Southern Partisan for defending "patriots" like Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis and called on "traditionalists" to vindicate the Confederate cause against charges that it represented a "perverted agenda."
It appears to me that the subject is criticizing Ashcroft and Norton for praising Confederate issues, not for conducting interviews.  ·:·Will Beback  ·:· 06:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Rjensen has described the first version, which he deprecates as a paean. I fail to see that; it is a summary of what Foner actually says. I have restored it, without the words, "asked conservatives why they appeal to racism," which (while clearly implied) may downplay Foner's qualifying reservations at the end of the article. Rjensen may want to click on paean and see what it means; this isn't even a eulogy. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 14:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the appropriate forum for discussing problems with editors. You might consider presenting this material in an RfC instead.  ·:·Will Beback  ·:· 00:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norton and Ashcroft 

message: Hi, just making an observation; why is "Secession and the Soviet Union" at the bottom of the article under "Works by Eric Foner"? It seems a bit silly.
Could someone please move it? Sorry I don't know how to.
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--78.150.213.131 (talk) 12:13, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A better question might be why is this section even in the article at all.  A 1991 comment in a popular news magazine about the now defunct USSR?  Seems like it serves no purpose and reflects Undue Weight. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 23:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:UNDUE|Undue Weight]] is correct.  There is virtually nothing describing Foner's work on Lincoln or Reconstruction -- which won the history profession's highest awards -- but we have an entire section on one article in The Nation on an unrelated topic. 27 June 2011 Jonwiener (talk) 18:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it is WP:UNDUE to give so much space to this one article, which is not even about his main area of work. Will summarize and reduce.Parkwells (talk) 14:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is "Secession and the Soviet Union" at the bottom? 

message: Foner and other historians have published articles in journalism magazines, but it does not seem appropriate to list so many here. Usually articles to be listed would be those in professional journals of the academic discipline; the ones here relate to Foner as a public intellectual, drawing from his discipline as a historian to comment on US society. But these are not his main work. Maybe they should be listed in a separate category. Parkwells (talk) 14:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Listing journalism articles

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