Sgwrs Wicipedia:Cymorth

message: Copied and pasted introduction text from Wicipedia:Sut i ymchwilio ar Wicipedia, now we at least have some explanation in Cymraeg! Diolch, Dyfrig :-) --Okapi 13:28, 12 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is very important. We may very well be losing potential regular viewers because of lack of clarity.

text: Is it possible to link the pages where we do not have any information in them to the English Wikipedia help pages and are there any potential dangers and complications in doing that?

text: I have managed to give the translation "Sut i  Ymchwilio Wikipedia" and get it to link to the right page. But the title of page is still in English but perhaps that is not a big issue at the moment anyway

text: Dyfrig 15:55, 12 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: :Diolch am y cyfieithiad! I can move the English language title for you if you like.  Done. --Okapi 03:33, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)

text: :I don't think we can link to the English Wikipedia, and even if we do it might just lead to people wandering off into it by clicking along links. But it is not so much of a deal to copy and paste their respective pages. I'd volunteer to do that if you give me the correct Welsh titles for the pages, either on my talk page or by translating the red links on help. That would save us the hassle of having to move them later on.

text: :The only complication I can think of is that the English Encyclopedia has got many naming conventions we do not have, so they might need a little sifting, but as the whole system as such is identical and I can't imagine there is a copyright problem either I suppose we might as well have a go... :-) --Okapi 00:20, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: :: You will note that I have made a link to the English Wikipedia help page. Is that ok? Dyfrig 10:23, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: :::Sure, I think it is fine! At least until we can offer more complete information. BTW, did you notice the comment on Sgwrs:Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers? There also is quite a detailed page Wicipedia:Croeso, newydd-ddyfodiaid. I'm sorry for the work you put into Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers, but I'd like to link the longer one to this page... Maybe we could use the text you wrote somewhere else? :-) --Okapi 15:19, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: :::: Popeth yn iawn. dim problem. I wonder if the difference between Wikipedia and Wicipedia causing a problem? Dyfrig 19:47, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: :::::Diolch. :-) And I don't think the difference is causing a problem so far. Wicipedia seems to be the consensus here, though, and I suppose it might be a good idea not to mix them too much in Welsh so that we don't get mixed up with our own links.

text: :::::BTW, quite a different matter, but have you got any idea how to increase the number of our editors? They seem to have dwindled away a bit lately. I've been telling Welsh-speaking friends about Wicipedia, but that is about all I can do. For instance, I was wondering if it was possible to start something like a school project "writing for Wicipedia" somewhere or get S4C interested, but I just don't know the right people.... --Okapi 23:30, 13 Hyd 2004 (UTC)

message: Dyma gynnig ar ddiweddaru'r dudalen help, i'w drafod cyn ei roi ar y dudalen ei hunan (ymhen rhyw fis neu ddau):
Gwyddoniadur rhydd yw Wicipedia a ysgrifennir yn gydweithredol gan ddarllenwyr y safle hon. Yr ydym yn y broses o ysgrifennu / cyfieithu canllawiau a gwybodaeth ar sut i ddarllen, ysgrifennu a chyfrannu i'r safle.
Os nad oes erthygl gynorthwy yma yn y Gymraeg a'ch bod yn dymuno mwy o wybodaeth fe allwch fynd i Wikipedia Saesneg a darllen yr erthyglau cymorth fan hynny am y tro.
thread_title:  Diweddaru'r dudalen Help 

message: * Beth yw Wicipedia?
* Croeso newydd ddyfodiaid
* Cwestiynau poblogaidd
Gwyddoniadur rhydd yw Wicipedia a ysgrifennir yn gydweithredol gan ddarllenwyr y safle hon. Yr ydym yn y broses o ysgrifennu / cyfieithu canllawiau a gwybodaeth ar sut i ddarllen, ysgrifennu a chyfrannu i'r safle.
Os nad oes erthygl gynorthwy yma yn y Gymraeg a'ch bod yn dymuno mwy o wybodaeth fe allwch fynd i Wikipedia Saesneg a darllen yr erthyglau cymorth fan hynny am y tro.
thread_title:  Gwybodaeth am Wicipedia 

message: * Sut i  chwilio am erthygl
* Sut i olygu tudalen. Gallwch arbrofi golygu tudalennau yn y bocs tywod.
* Sut i ddechrau tudalen
* Sut i ddefnyddio tudalen sgwrs
* Sut i  ychwanegi delwedd i dudalen
* How to use the Recent Changes page
* How to use the Related Changes page
* How to use the Go button
* How to log in
* How to set preferences
* Sut i  ail enwi neu symud tudalen
* How to use redirect pages
* How to revert a page to an earlier version
* How to create pages for topics with several different definitions
* How to link together Wikipedia articles in different languages
* How to delete pages
* How to edit mathematical formulas
* How to edit an article so long that you can't edit
* How to produce graphics for pages
* How to add boilerplate text for readers
thread_title:  Sut dw i'n gwneud hynna? 

message: * Policies and guidelines for contributors
* Canllawiau ysgrifennu yn Gymraeg ar Wicipedia
* Wicipedia:Geirfa Wicipedia
* How to write a great article
* Public domain resources
* Manual of style
* WikiProjects, writing and style guidelines for specific disciplines.
* Wikipedia utilities
thread_title:  Gwybodaeth ac adnoddau i gyfranwyr 

message: * Y Caffi, fforwm i ofyn cwestiynau na sydd yn cael eu hateb yn cwestiynau poblogaidd.
* Cymorth iaith, fforwm i ofyn cwestiynau na sydd yn cael eu hateb yn y canllawiau iaith.
* Reference desk, request an article or information. See also Requested articles.
* Wikipedia mailing lists
* Chat with other users on IRC
* Bug reports and feature requests
* Wikipedians
* Meta Wikipedia, safle Saesneg sydd yn gweithio ynghyd â phrif prosiect Wicipedia. Yma cewch roi traethodau ac ymuno mewn trafodaethau ar faterion sy'n ymwneud â Wicipedia.
* Contingency page for when the main Wikipedia server is down
Nodiadau ar y diweddaru:
*Bydd cynnwys yr erthygl ar Sut i ymchwilio Wicipedia yn cael ei symud i'r erthygl 'Sut i chwilio am erthygl'.
*Newid teitl 'Cwestiynau ofynnir yn aml' i 'Cwestiynau poblogaidd'.
*Ychwanegu canllawiau iaith - gweler y caffi.
Lloffiwr 21:31, 26 Tachwedd 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyfathrebu