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brilliant...clever even
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I only physically own that to exist as reminders of important ideas, if I t can be digitizes that should take priority
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I have 30,000 textbooks in my basement
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How many math books have any of you actually read where you worked every single problem from cover yo cover? Precalculus and non rigorous math texts do not count.
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zero, because that would be retarded
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I don't know why, but this reminds me of some cam whore I used to blow loads out with. She had the same decor.
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Based and brick-pilled.
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>My wife doesn't allow me
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Which is only one reason (among many) a scholar should remain single.
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>Every normie just knows the scientific method.
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L0Lno, fgt pls
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name 5 times this happened
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That's the biggest joke. They literally do it for free. Climate jannies.
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global warming is a false narrative
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evaporation of water is endothermic not exothermic
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not even a real science
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>The amount of know-it-alls in any discipline is inversely proportional to the usefulness of the discipline.
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The idea of MAGA is here to stay.
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An elite New York billionaire real-estate tycoon and career criminal who has been in court his entire adult life, who was close buddies with Clinton and Epstein, who moved the latter from state to federal prison just days before he died, against the DA's wishes, and who has had a charge of sleeping with a 13yo girl laid against him, when he was 60. ...Is supposed to save us from a massive conspiracy of pedophile billionaires.
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>Clintons
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lmao@damning trump for his past association with the clintons. he sure whipped em in 2016, if they were friendly, they probably aren't any longer. not that beating up on them is all too difficult, obama had served about 1/4 of one term in congress when he stomped clinton in the 2008 primaries.
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The J in Donald J Trump stands for Jesus. He is a direct descendent of Jesus it is fortold.
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If he cared about views and clicks he would move to the next scam that being China or Ukraine. He is not doing it but sticks around the bullshit flu because he is mad he got duped and now tries to listen to everyone because he isnt sure who to trust.
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Yeah, but they real question is whether they're going to tell me to go fuck myself and laugh when I pay a dermatologist that I have to randomly pick out of a hat to fuck my face even worse.
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Hello well poisoner, unpleased to meet you.
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>>15388448
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Holy shit that schnozz.
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>>15364585 (OP)
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sea lvl rise is more a local thing these days,
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some places have it others don't.
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And people like him want to claim that every year in the US is a new record high. They're duplicitous.
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Cool it with the antisemitism.
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no, from my experience since I was a kid, the weather has indeed become more extreme
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t. californianized american
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Do you maybe just pay more attention to global weather patterns as an adult with twitter and facebook than you did as a kid with basic cable?
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Tell that to Koreans.
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yeah, thats probably it
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i don't believe in evolution and im not changing my mind
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its not real science
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i don't believe in evolution and im not changing my mind
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its not real science
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>>15390066
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>and im not changing my mind
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dover lost years ago, its over.
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>>15383967
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Also Amoeba, a lot of people do not know this but they're faster than wolves in a spread
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>Greyhounds are faster than wolves
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Oh no no no no
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Google it yourself faggot
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>wolves pretty poor olfactory sensitivity compared to breeds like bloodhounds
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More of your bullshit
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"Pretty poor" is wildly wrong. They are at the very least effectively identical (with wolves possibly being significantly better than dogs because retesting the wolves in the scent experiment showed enormous improvement over dogs). This aligns with my claim that no dog outperforms the wolf ancestors.
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Like I said, most people don't realize we can't breed dogs to outperform their ancestors.
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Thanks for proving my point.
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>Eskimos have timy noses so they can heat up the cold air when they breathe
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Nice clueless armchair argument. Meanwhile, you also think (ie swallow the narrative) the ginormous noses of the homo sapiens you randomly call "Neanderthal" are well adapted for cold climates because they are big. Funny how the benefit of nose size in cold climate flip flops whenever you need it to suit your argument
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>Do you think
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I think you can't think for yourself
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>it's da jooos
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Go back to /pol/ where you belong you simpleton
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>>15366480
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how does nature "know" to starve those giraffes whose necks cant reach the only leafing plants during a drought?
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hm?
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Bin Laden is also definitely still alive, they never released to supposed video of him being killed or his funeral
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Bin Laden is also definitely still alive, they never released to supposed video of him being killed or his funeral
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Everything in the world was going along normally until picrel's arrest, as soon as the happened, chaos ensued and it still hasn't let up yet. ZOG's secrets are out of the bag, so they're instigating tyranny to avoid the repercussions of their misdeeds
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Covid-19 was released about 2 month after Epstein was declared dead.
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>>15369826
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>australia =/= global
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Got any facts to back that up?
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>>15369826
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>australia =/= global
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Got any facts to back that up?
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Interesting that the shill got banned from this thread.
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>>15369546
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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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>>15391437
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Postwar science is complete bullshit from top to bottom.
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>Global warming is rea
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Don't like your religion questioned and mocked?
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>>15391445
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This.
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>>15391445
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"Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war" ~Joseph Goebbels
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>>15391445
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Its almost as if we're living in a dystopian kleptocracy thinly disguised as a free society
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they're some of the most nutrients dense foods you can have
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eggs are some of the healthiest foods and probably the closest thing to a superfood you can eat
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they're some of the most nutrients dense foods you can have
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eggs are some of the healthiest foods and probably the closest thing to a superfood you can eat
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damn, looks like hes a goner
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>>15389636
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>Why would I care if it's something that won't appear until I am 50 or so?
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Uhhh, ackshually, it's much more important to prolong the amount of time you can be a decrepit semi-corpse than to be strong and energetic during your active years.
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>>15384987
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All of your links are literally mechanistic speculation, they are not human data, this is a quote from one of your links who perfectly explains it
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""Theoretically, augmentation of parasympathetic activity could be detrimental even though little clinical evidence supports this. When patients with terminal HF die, they may experience profound bradycardia or asystole instead of ventricular tachycardia or fibrillation; however, it is not at all clear that this is due to a primary parasympathetic mechanism"""
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>https://books.google.de/books?id=PcsqBgAAQBAJ&printsec=copyright&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Ok you sent me a book but where's the source for the claim that most of heart attacks are not from cholesterol blockage
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>Also before 1940s almost nobody dies because of heart attacks.
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This is false, pic related, the fact that we have less heart disease deaths today than before refutes that
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>>15391260
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Governments, leaders, the rich, corporations, university/science based scam programs, etc. all want low-health, low-energy, beta-males who obey what they are told.
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A weak subservient slave-class of peasants to control and rule over.
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people eating egg have died 99%
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people drinking water have died 100%
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>>15391405
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>>Also before 1940s almost nobody dies because of heart attacks.
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>This is false, pic related, the fact that we have less heart disease deaths today than before refutes that
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>Shows graphic that conveniently started after 1950s.
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https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-8-148
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>no sauce
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>Ok you sent me a book
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Which is a analysis of 50 years of pathological findings of heart attacks
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346677344_Pathology_of_the_Heart_and_Sudden_Death_in_Forensic_Medicine
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It is a exhaustive analysis of heart deaths.
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>>15388493
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have you ever eaten an ostrich egg? they're about 3lbs each
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>>15391836
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What is your picture about? Is not heart disease mortality, you are posting an irrelevant unsourced graph, also are implying people lived more before the 1940s, cause that's what you seem to be implying with that picture lmao
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>https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-8-148
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| 458 |
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Your own links says there's less heart disease mortality today than before
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>Which is a analysis of 50 years of pathological findings of heart attacks
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| 460 |
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It looks like a quack book that's just worthless since the very own links you linked before say there is little to no evidence to what you are talking about and is all just mechanistic speculation
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>It is a exhaustive analysis of heart deaths.
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No is not, is just a mechanistic trash speculation gibberish which is why its found in researchgate and not in a real journal, an exhaustive analysis would be systematic review but I don't even think you know what that is, either show a study with human outcome data or shut the fuck up.
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Thats why it clearly is not a forgery
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Thats why it clearly is not a forgery
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>>15384642
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Israel is the most homosexual nation on the planet. Their capital is the most homosexual city, more than 1/3 of the city is homosexuals.
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>>15370453 (OP)
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Thats not philosophical bias, he just hated all whites just like all the rest of the jews do. Its not an "blind spot", its outright aggression
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>>15389869
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>their shitty ways
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Like?
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>>15389869
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>their shitty ways
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Like?
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>>15389930
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>>15370558 (OP)
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>the world is coming to an end
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...said no scientist, ever.
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>messiah complexes
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What is the reason for the fixation on melodramatic "messiah complexes"?
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>>15392307
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what if you're a low iq mental case with a messiah complex and you're too dumb and insane to realize it?
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>peak oil
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The Swiss are too nice. If he did that in Saudi Arabia, he would be in prison now, dead, or they would have found somewhere to deport him to.
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>>15370558 (OP)
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Who the fuck goes outside and thinks "there aren't enough people here"? Of course the world is overpopulated, it was overpopulated even in the 60s. Take a look at Google maps, there's hardly an wilderness left.
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>>15381326
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>It wouldn't surprise me at all if bug-chasing became mainstream
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already happened
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>>15381326
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>It wouldn't surprise me at all if bug-chasing became mainstream
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already happened
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easy access free abortion did this. women enjoy getting pregnant and they enjoy killing the baby too. popular media has made it all into something to be proud of rather than ashamed of
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good
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>>15370730 (OP)
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>do they know why this is happening
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because they are encouraging it
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The whole purpose of judeo atheist revolutions by the bourgeois in NL, UK and France and Russia was to remove the kings and priests off of their backs. priests and kings took their money and told them what to do , who to marry, daily rules and so on . it was awful for the bourgeois bug.
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atheism= hedonism+ propaganda that christian kings are evil, in order to make a society based on commerce alone, and not on priests and military conquests
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The typical life of a bourgeois is going to orgies at night and then during day getting bored since they have a very shallow meaningless job or even just be trust fund babies and all they do in the afternoon is getting ready to go parties in the evening.
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From time to time they want to feel like good guys so back in the day they would go to church on the sunday morning after their saturday night orgy.
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Nowadays they just push for humanism, ie the philosophy they themselves crafted to take power.
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And women lead the same life of the bourgeoisie, this is why they thrive so much in the bourgeois pinnacle creation: the democratic republic.
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A woman truly have no hypocrisy when all she does in her life is using hundreds of orbiters to get them solve her daily life problems, when she gets free gifts by men, when she has lots of casual sex free of charge, when men put her on a pedestal while her skills are non-existent. A woman is hedonistic and she has very little work do to get an easy life.
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Women coast thru life thanks to
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-being the apex predator on the liberalized sex market (liberalized by the bourgeoisie since bourgeois hate sexual conventions, because it prevents cooming).
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Both women and bourgeois are bisexual sex freaks.
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-being deeply neurotic, desperate to virtue signal during the day to gain atheist karma points
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-being the only species able to sustain high dose of hypocrisy, ie being self centered hedonist but also pushing for more humanism, because they have no introspection faculty
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>>15392526
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the only difference between a bourgeois and a woman, is that the bourgeois perfectly knows he is a scumbag who doesnt care one bit about the peasants in private, while claiming in public that caring about peasants is super important.
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>>15371156
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what are the demographical change implications?
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>>15384007
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fucking this
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unreal that people still believe in germ theory in 2023
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And here's why that's a good thing: draining the swamp to make science great again. A great reset of the science to build science back better. A science that is not a threat to our democracy. Yes we can. For the people. Especially the children. Imagine a global science treaty without foreign intervention. A science that allows freedom of speech, diversity and inclusivity without hate speech or misinformation. A science that punishes criminals and illegal immigration. A science that does not depend on Russia and China. A science that encourages upward mobility through hard work like our founding fathers did. A new scientific order. God bless America!
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And here's why that's a good thing: draining the swamp to make science great again. A great reset of the science to build science back better. A science that is not a threat to our democracy. Yes we can. For the people. Especially the children. Imagine a global science treaty without foreign intervention. A science that allows freedom of speech, diversity and inclusivity without hate speech or misinformation. A science that punishes criminals and illegal immigration. A science that does not depend on Russia and China. A science that encourages upward mobility through hard work like our founding fathers did. A new scientific order. God bless America!
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Why do vegans even want to eat burgers even if they are ersatz ones? Why do that want to present the illusion that they aren't vegans? Is there something wrong with being vegan?
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>Is there something wrong with being vegan?
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Obviously. It is against Nature. Same as being a homosexual/troon.
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I smoke it because it gives me creative ideas to use in my art, opens my perception to appreciating facets of natural beauty I didn't appreciate before, allows me to explore unusual patterns of thinking, even if most of the ideas I get dont match up to reality when I am sober, and because it gives me mind blowing orgasms when I masturbate. How about you?
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Now that's not to say that weed doesn't have its potential dangers to one's mental health. Too much can increase one's anxiety and if one has a familial history of schizo disorders they'd be wise to stay away bit its not so black and white as you seem to make it out to be
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I smoke it because it gives me creative ideas to use in my art, opens my perception to appreciating facets of natural beauty I didn't appreciate before, allows me to explore unusual patterns of thinking, even if most of the ideas I get dont match up to reality when I am sober, and because it gives me mind blowing orgasms when I masturbate. How about you?
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I'm almost convinced it reverse the stress damage circumcision did to us as children, and the torment girls were put through by (education) when their bodies are firing off GO OUTSIDE DICK INSIDE SHIT BABY IN FIELD REPEAT
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Retard psychiatry is all torture. It is all doublethink inception. Not a single thing that stems from "mental wellbeing" explains shit. No matter how many times you say catchall human words to describe the brain that the brain is capable of resolving because of abstraction doesn't mean they describe the functions of the brain.
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There is nothing mental that is not able to be described computationally from the ground up or top down. There are no magic modules in the brain that determine whether you are happy or sad or creative or intelligent. We only developed these concepts because we don't have to concern ourselves with our daily survival anymore because everything is plentiful.
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>scare people into voting against their best interests
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How the fuck are there two of you morons?
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In your head - making you ask silly questions.
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In your head - making you ask silly questions.
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>>15383874
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>would have modified their galaxies by now
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There's you problem. You assume things can be done that exist purely in theory and have nowhere been applied. We throw out the possibility of life, the one thing we have example of, just because we do not see the things that we have no example of.
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We just assume a type one civilization is possible. We assume expansion works the way we think it does according to 21st century memes, roughly two centuries out from blood letting and spirits causing disease. We are so totally full of shit in that we assume we have the privilege of infallible theory.
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The reason nobody is harvesting their star, building self-replicating probes, disposing of gobs of waste heat, any of that shit may simply be that it is not possible. We're sci-fi junkies and at some point the wall came down between theory and reality. We actually make charts that curve upward along the y into infinity when we project our future prowess. Think about that for a sec. Think of how terribly presumptuous that is.
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We should be humble and consider that maybe, just maybe, modern theory writes checks that reality cannot cash.
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this is what it's been like.
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>welcome!
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Hoag's Object might be an engineered galaxy. We'll know more if JWST ever takes a look at it.
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That's fine, maybe it will be something. Who knows? My main point is, if we don't ever see evidence of K-Scale civilizations, lets question the K-Scale before we question life.
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This sub is full ignorant asshats for not 1 mention of Fermi Paradox yet
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>>15391547
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What the fuck do you think we're talking about?
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You know what, don't answer that. This is my last post on /sci/. I honestly can't even anymore.
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I'm going to do a 360 and walk away.
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I really hope we are the first. Top priority of science should be getting us off this planet so we can colonize the universe and not go extinct if this one rock explodes
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Technological civilization has only existed here on Earth for about 200 years and we're already on the brink of colonizing the solar system. The same technology will also let us eventually cover the entire galaxy. It just takes longer. The fact that nobody else in the entire galaxy seems to have done this in the past few billions of years makes no sense at all.
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dumb ones don't have ability to send us a signal
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we're in the temporary uncanny valley soon to become smarter or get exterminated by who knows who
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why would mentioning something that everyone already knows about imply intelligence? namedropping fermi doesn't mean you're intelligent, it means you're pretentious, shallow and image conscious. what good is image consciousness on an anonymous imageboard?
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>this is what it's been like.
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You're luck then.
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My subconscious mind has declared war on my consciouss mind. *I* am an alien invasion upon myself. My perception of time is brought to nearly a stand still as the horrors of the world become nigh eternal around me...
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A perpetually falling angel...always hitting rock bottom but there is always infinitely further into hell to fall...death unending.
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By what metric? A few rockets sent to basically our backyard using unholy amounts of super-science and only for a few days? Garbage cans packed with equipment sent to die out in the heliopause? We can't even build a city in Antarctica, let alone Mars. This is what I mean by the wall between sci-fi and science. Which part of space are resource-strapped and statistically dumber humans going to establish a colony in first, the part bathed in enough lethal radiation to kill an elephant or the part so stupendously cold that it rains frozen methane?
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Even if the blueprints were lost (they aren't) the designs could be reverse engineered from the numerous unflown parts they still have in warehouses today.
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And guess what, exactly that idea was put forth in a competitor bid to SLS by Dynetics, who proposed an iterative improvement on the F-1, the F-1B, using unflown F-1 engines as the basis of the development.
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| 468 |
Why the fuck not? The ternary operator is intrinsic to most languages.
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Otherwise just extract the most significant bit of the two's complement binary representation.
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--- 15390252
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>>15389675
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Play around with different ideas in logisim
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--- 15390281
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>>15390252
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>logisim
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People don't just visualize the circuit I'm their head. Wtf?
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--- 15390286
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>>15390281
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we mostly use the Steam game actually
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--- 15390294
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Hello, can someone suggest me an alternative to AOPS books? I can't really tolerate their pdfs quality being absolute sht.
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>buy them
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bro I'm from Arg and our economy is tanking (finally)
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--- 15390639
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>>15390116
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>What is a function that takes its argument k and:
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>Gives piecewise definition of a function
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>I'm not be interested in a piecewise function
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What the fuck
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--- 15390655
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omg bros I think I just got it
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are gluons called gluons because the strong nuclear force GLUES the nuclear protons together?
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--- 15390885
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Does anyone know some basic asymptotic analysis? In picrel, why can we just assume that [math]k=k(n)=\Theta(\sqrt{n})[/math] as some specific function, when it is a dummy variable and not technically part of [math]f[/math]?
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--- 15391164
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>>15390885
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Answering my own question; let [math]\ell(n)=\sqrt{n}\cdot n^{1/100}[/math]. Then, since [math]k=o(n^{2/3})[/math] implies [math]\frac{(n)_k}{n^k}\sim e^{-\frac{k^2}{2n}[/math], we can split [math]f(n)=\sum_{k=1}^{\ell(n)}\frac{(n)_k}{n^k} + \sum_{k=\ell(n)+1}^{n}\frac{(n)_k}{n^k}=:(1)+(2)[/math]. Then [math](1)\sim\sum_{k=1}^{\ell(n)}e^{-\frac{k^2}{2n}}\sim\int_0^\infty e^{-\frac{k^2}{2n}}\, d k \sim \sqrt{n\pi/2}[/math] as in the question. Finally, [math](2)\leq (n-\ell(n)-1)\frac{(n)_k}{n^k}\sim (n-\ell(n)-1) e^{-\frac12 n^{1/50}}\sim 0[/math].
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I still don't get their solution but that's ok.
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i need some tips on how to define languages recursively. E={a,b,c}, x is a subset of E*, x contains all words where two letters dont repeat. I found a few stack over flow threads, and they mention finding a pattern and working with that - ive wrote a few of the words but im not sure how to turn that into a defintion
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>>15391784
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oops, i mean x consists of all words where no two consecutive letters are the
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same.
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--- 15391953
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So I saw this and I'm thinking about infinity.
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If .9...=1, then wouldn't .8...9... (That's .8 repeating infinitely followed by 9 repeating infinitely.) equal .8...9, meaning that it would be turning an infinite number finite. And then wouldn't this mean that it's actually subtracting an infinite amount since the end result is infinitely smaller than the starting amount? Like, can you have multiple infinities, or is it just infinity as a concept at that point? But then wouldn't that mean all infinities are equal, which would make all numbers equal if this picture is true? Where do I start learning about infinity? Is infinity, like, a waveform that collapses once it's interacted with?
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>>15391953
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> That's .8 repeating infinitely followed by 9 repeating infinitely
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that's a nonsense statement, you can't write such a number.
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>>15392026
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First off, I just did. Second off, I was told that 0.99... is the same as 1-1/10^n where n = infinity Is that right?
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Wouldn't .8...+((1-1/10^n)/10^n) where n=infinity equal my made-up number?
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--- 15392103
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>>15392026
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>>15392095
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Actually wait, I think I'm getting a bit ahead of myself. What would (1-1/10^n)/10^n where n=infinity be? Would that be an infinite number of zeroes followed by an infinite number of nines?
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--- 15392174
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>>15392095
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Essentially what ".8 repeating infinitely followed by 9 repeating infinitely" means is that you have a number [math]x[/math] where for all [math]n < \infty[/math] the [math]n[/math]th digit is 8 and all other digits are 9. But there are no other digits so all the digits are 8.
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In order for there to be a 9 in [math]x[/math] then there must be a number [math]n[/math] such that [math] n > \infty[/math] which is obviously false.
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In simpler terms, because there are already an infinite number of 8's, there is no room left for the 9's.
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>I was told that 0.99... is the same as 1-1/10^n where n = infinity Is that right?
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That's close, but since infinity isn't really a number there is no way to evaluate this expression. What is actually done is to consider the sequence of 1-1/10^n for all n (the natural numbers) and evaluate the limit as n goes to infinity.
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--- 15392634
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If I answered IQ test questions randomly, what is the expected score of my IQ?
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--- 15392780
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>>15392174
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>such that n>∞ which is obviously false.
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Is it? If that's false, then ∞+2=∞ wouldn't it? And then we could use that to simply break math by proving all numbers equal each other. Or what about x*∞ versus X^∞? Are these numbers equal? They certainly wouldn't look equal on a graph and wouldn't be able to be used interchangeable, which already implies that there are at least different infinities. How can they be different but also equal unless there's something else going on? There are two other explanations I can think of - One is that ∞ is an 'active' variable and changes every time it's interacted with, which would make it very difficult to use in equations and proofs, and the other is that we simply don't understand infinity and shouldn't use it because of that.
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What's that hotel paradox, "A hotel has infinite rooms, but an infinite number of guests are staying there. Can you get a room?" Is there an answer for that? Like Zeno's paradox wasn't meant to prove that the race was unwinnable, it was to show the absurdity of math being unable to answer it at the time.
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--- 15392784
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>>15392634
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If it was a real IQ test, then the test would show as inconclusive as they ask the same question multiple times and the very different answers would show that you were giving random answers. Remember that these are often given to uncooperative and developmentally disabled children.
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--- 15392833
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>>15390252
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do you mean something like this?
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--- 15392891
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>>15392833
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And using a mux
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| 430 |
N forms the smallest ring containing the natural numbers. Z is also a ring. So, you decide.
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--- 15389163
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| 432 |
are there any textbooks on structural set theory?
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--- 15389201
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-
Just finished my first two semesters. I feel like it would be the responsible thing to do to earn credit for a few courses this summer like numerical analysis or differential equations or multi-variable calculus but I also just want to be a lazy fuck and marathon video games while maybe casually working through an introductory programming or combinatorics book. It's best that I tackle these courses earlier than later and that I be held accountable for my education but I also really just love video games...
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--- 15389244
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>Before abstract algebra midterm
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| 437 |
>"God? Its me, I know I haven't been your humblest servant, but I will renounce all earthly vices if I could just mercifully be allowed to receive a 65%, which would leave me with a 70% average and is the bare minimum to continue my studies. Your always humble servant..."
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@@ -468,3 +466,200 @@ Best of luck to you, anon. I hope whatever you face you overcome it.
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| 468 |
>my biggest piece of advice is to get to know your professors.
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| 469 |
Thank you for this advice. I hope I can put it to good use. In highschool I've managed to be close with teachers to the point one of our math teachers brings problems he can't solve to me and asks for geogebra/desmos help. In university that might be more challenging.
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| 470 |
Again, good luck on your PhD journey and thanks for your advice.
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| 430 |
N forms the smallest ring containing the natural numbers. Z is also a ring. So, you decide.
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| 431 |
--- 15389163
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| 432 |
are there any textbooks on structural set theory?
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| 433 |
--- 15389244
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| 434 |
>Before abstract algebra midterm
|
| 435 |
>"God? Its me, I know I haven't been your humblest servant, but I will renounce all earthly vices if I could just mercifully be allowed to receive a 65%, which would leave me with a 70% average and is the bare minimum to continue my studies. Your always humble servant..."
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| 466 |
>my biggest piece of advice is to get to know your professors.
|
| 467 |
Thank you for this advice. I hope I can put it to good use. In highschool I've managed to be close with teachers to the point one of our math teachers brings problems he can't solve to me and asks for geogebra/desmos help. In university that might be more challenging.
|
| 468 |
Again, good luck on your PhD journey and thanks for your advice.
|
| 469 |
+
--- 15390236
|
| 470 |
+
>>15389244
|
| 471 |
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>>15389253
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| 472 |
+
Do all mathfags have BPD?
|
| 473 |
+
--- 15390282
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| 474 |
+
>>15389637
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| 475 |
+
Why are you so racist? This is not the first time you have been racist.
|
| 476 |
+
--- 15390287
|
| 477 |
+
>>15389398
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| 478 |
+
amongst philosophers of mathematics yes
|
| 479 |
+
amongst other professional mathematicians no
|
| 480 |
+
von Neumann talks about it in one of philosophy of science papers how all the mathematicians after Gödel's result basically said who gives a fuck if non-intuitionistic math is good enough for physics it's good enough for us otherwise large quantities of the mathematical literature especially from analysis and geometry have to go into the bin which nobody wants to do
|
| 481 |
+
--- 15390339
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| 482 |
+
>>15390236
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| 483 |
+
--- 15390347
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| 484 |
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>>15390287
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| 485 |
+
>otherwise large quantities of the mathematical literature especially from analysis and geometry have to go into the bin which nobody wants to do
|
| 486 |
+
Assuming the Godel(not a real mathematician) was right. I don't find his methods valid, they only apply to a few types of formal systems, and have no practical application in actual mathematics. It seems there is some huge interest in propping the guy up, for what reason I don't know.
|
| 487 |
+
--- 15390398
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| 488 |
+
>>15390282
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| 489 |
+
I'm sorry, I swear I'm not actually racist. It's just a meme I made when it came to my mind.While I still think it's funny, I l totally understand that it's racist. Apologies for giving the wrong impression about myself but I assure you that I am not racist, quite the opposite in fact. I'll try to avoid this in the future, I could use apolitical images instead.
|
| 490 |
+
>>15390339
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| 491 |
+
interesting quote.
|
| 492 |
+
--- 15390409
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| 493 |
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>>15380472
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| 494 |
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>I'm in last year of high school
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| 495 |
+
Nice, do you bottom?
|
| 496 |
+
--- 15390414
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| 497 |
+
>>15390287
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| 498 |
+
Damn, I was hoping it would actually be useful. I guess for me at least it feels insightful to understand math better, knowing about philosophies of math.
|
| 499 |
+
--- 15390503
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| 500 |
+
>>15389637
|
| 501 |
+
>How did you know to differentiate to extract the coefficient?
|
| 502 |
+
It is pretty much just from the definition of taylor series at 0.
|
| 503 |
+
f(x) = Sum[(x^n)*f^(n)(0)/n!].
|
| 504 |
+
The coefficient of x^m is f^(m)(0)/m!.
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| 505 |
+
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| 506 |
+
>Is what you did explained in generatingfunctionology?
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| 507 |
+
I'd hope so. You just need to know what a geometric series represents and what multiplying generating functions represents.
|
| 508 |
+
It should be in any book using generating functions.
|
| 509 |
+
I don't have generatingfunctionology but I know it is in
|
| 510 |
+
Enumerative Combinatorics by Richard Stanley
|
| 511 |
+
Analytic Combinatorics by Philippe Flajolet and Robert Sedgewick
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| 512 |
+
--- 15390620
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| 513 |
+
>>15390339
|
| 514 |
+
but manic depression is like ADHD
|
| 515 |
+
it's just another meme
|
| 516 |
+
math is here to stay
|
| 517 |
+
--- 15390653
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| 518 |
+
Suppose R is an integral domain and S is a cancellative semigroup. Prove or find a counterexample: the semigroup ring R[S] has no zero divisors.
|
| 519 |
+
--- 15390656
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| 520 |
+
>>15390287
|
| 521 |
+
Have there been any other changes in how people have viewed mathematics since then? Will there ever be any more changes or has it just been completed now?
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| 522 |
+
--- 15390665
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| 523 |
+
>>15390287
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| 524 |
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von Neumann was a jew
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| 525 |
+
jews always say things like "all of the goys like X are like Y"
|
| 526 |
+
they're prejudiced
|
| 527 |
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you can ignore it
|
| 528 |
+
for example
|
| 529 |
+
I was never exposed to the difference between "intuitionistic" and "non-intuitionistic" and I don't know anybody who has, either
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| 530 |
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von Neumann can have his say, but what he said came out of a jewish mouth or was penned by a jewish hand
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| 531 |
+
--- 15390669
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| 532 |
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>>15390653
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| 533 |
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Cute, I'm reading a chapter of integral domains right now in gallian's text.
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| 534 |
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product of nonzero elements in an integral domain is nonzero and S is cancellative. You are kinda told everythig else.
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| 535 |
+
--- 15390767
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| 536 |
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>>15390669
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| 537 |
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you don't have a math degree
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| 538 |
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you're an idiot
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| 539 |
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you should not post here
|
| 540 |
+
go be an idiot somewhere else
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| 541 |
+
--- 15390831
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| 542 |
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>>15390767
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| 543 |
+
Is that why you're asking a softball homework problem on /mg/? Because you have a math degree, are smart, and should post here? Somehow, I don't see that being the case. You okay anon?
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| 544 |
+
--- 15390842
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| 545 |
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>>15390831
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| 546 |
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third time somebody said this about the question
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| 547 |
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getting real tired of your bullshit, internet
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| 548 |
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it isn't a homework question
|
| 549 |
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shut your lying mouth
|
| 550 |
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--- 15391282
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| 551 |
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>Universitext
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| 552 |
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>GTM
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| 553 |
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which side are you on?
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| 554 |
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--- 15391303
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| 555 |
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>>15391282
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| 556 |
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I'm GTM all the way.
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| 557 |
+
My mom got me Lang's Algebra when I was 15, and it was all I used in the psych ward after a suicide attempt. Since, I've developed a certain level of nostalgia for GTM. That, and they often go on sale a lot.
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| 558 |
+
--- 15391315
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| 559 |
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>>15389074
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| 560 |
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Free monoid is where my mind goes.
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| 561 |
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--- 15391358
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| 562 |
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>>15390414
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| 563 |
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Well, intuitionistic logic is useful in formal verification and in topos theory.
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| 564 |
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--- 15391370
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| 565 |
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>>15391358
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| 566 |
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you are full of it and you know it
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| 567 |
+
--- 15391483
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| 568 |
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Stumbled across this hilarious review for Stillwell's Mathematics and its History. Reads like a 4chan post, so which one of you wrote it?
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| 569 |
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--- 15391491
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| 570 |
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>>15391483
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| 571 |
+
kek
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| 572 |
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--- 15391494
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| 573 |
+
How much do you actually remember from the texts you read? Or do you mostly just remember an intuitive idea/implicit model of the main theorems/definitions/problems?
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| 574 |
+
--- 15391502
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| 575 |
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>>15391303
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How did you try to do it?
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>>15391502
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Obviously his calculations were off. His mom just wanted to help him out for the next attempt.
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>>15391483
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you get this problem in general when attempting to use math texts outside degree-granting institutions
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what's the point
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internet points?
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>>15391370
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how are they full of it?
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>>15391358
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Huh? Wouldn't that just be using different rules rather than a different view in philosophy of math? By "it" being I meant knowing philosophies of math, not "using (intuitionist for example) logic".
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>>15391593
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The point, edification! Only an NPC stops trying to learn things once their prescribed education program comes to and end.
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--- 15391631
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>>15391618
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I'm an NPC
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| 597 |
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And I regularly send armed wombats (with shoulder mounted laser canons) out to take care of anything that needs to be taken care of in the event that I discover that I have been learning, which I take as a domestic emergency
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--- 15391695
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>>15391631
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Alright...
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--- 15392063
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>>15379790 (OP)
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What's the most interesting thing for you in mathematics, /sci/? Is it something general or something specific?
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--- 15392076
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>>15379804
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| 606 |
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120+ replies and none of you useless faggots answered my question. Literally the first post in the thread. I hope you all fucking die.
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>>15392076
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go to office hours.
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>>15392084
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Lol, I actually did and my professor told me I was exactly right
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--- 15392238
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| 614 |
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How do you guys stay focused during lectures?
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| 616 |
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My lectures are often very abstract and it's difficult to follow along very step. I will make a remark in my notes to go back later and justify a step or statement but I'm lazy and rarely do (because I prioritise working problems and problem sets).
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--- 15392244
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>>15392238
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For example, lecturer makes a remark at the conclusion of some set of statement that summarises what she has been showing. The sentence is full of technical jargon. I can break down this sentence and understand what she is saying but I'm a bit slow. I can't do this in real time. My eyes glaze over a little bit.
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--- 15392354
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>>15379790 (OP)
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Stupid question but how is algebra use for convex optimization?
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--- 15392417
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>>15392354
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It's simple. Just consider the etale-cohomology of pre-sheaves assigned to derived categories induced by the homotopy of minimal solutions
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--- 15392596
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I've gone through 90% of Lang's Basic Mathematics and then my study habit broke off for some reason. Any tricks to getting back into it?
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| 628 |
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| 629 |
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One problem is that I kinda lost my motivation. I originally started learning because I got a job as a data analyst, but by now I've learned that being an analyst doesn't involve any "heavy" math at all. Once while making a model a senior colleague asked me about some statistics terminology since he's already forgotten all the school stuff, but besides that it's all just data wrangling.
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--- 15392687
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Let [math]a, b \in \mathbb{Z_{>0}}[/math] be coprime integers.
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What is the largest integer not in the set
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[eqn] \{ax + by | x,y \in \mathbb{Z_{>0}} \}[/eqn]
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?
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--- 15392704
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>>15392687
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look up the coin problem
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--- 15392753
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>>15379790 (OP)
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The Metallic Ratios are a myth
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Go on
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GOLDEN ratio? Then silver then bronze?
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Gold R(5) something something phi
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Silver R(8) something something pythagorean narcissism
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| 645 |
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Bronze R(13) ok checks out looks fibonacci enough we should expect the next root to be the sum of 8 and 13 but WHAT'S THIS?
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| 646 |
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4 + Root (20)
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CANNABIS?
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| 648 |
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What spiral does that even produce?
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I have not learned enough to draw the smoking weed ratio but man if someone could animate the spirals that would be incredible.
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--- 15392756
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>>15380937
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This. I'm in the same boat. I forgot all trig.
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--- 15392758
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I would pay for webassign practice problems but I would not pay university stupid level costs.
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--- 15392783
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>>15392756
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euler's formula is all I ever used in 4 years, everything just rolls out
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--- 15392879
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>>15392783
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what do you mean by rolls out?
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--- 15392904
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>>15392596
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| 663 |
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Good work. If you've already got through 90% of it, do you really need to finish it? Maybe study something that is relevant to your interests or work. Have you studied calculus and probability theory?
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I've personally found that a little set theory and propositional logic goes a long way with data wrangling.
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>>15386573
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freud is v problematic tho tbf
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>>15386573
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freud is v problematic tho tbf
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--- 15390590
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R4Tp8ls5lY [Embed]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KF8v8RqO9o [Embed]
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anyone remember this one ? It's from probably 20 years ago. He had a popular show on the radio where he'd do lots of these
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKzw1F9G1BE [Embed]
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--- 15390676
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Wow, this is almost as bad as YLYL threads on /b/.
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--- 15390740
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>>15389848
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| 117 |
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those of hegelian persuasion care about logic only is so far as how they can exploit it against their professed enemies
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--- 15391329
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| 119 |
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>>15380597 (OP)
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>>15380604
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>>15380624
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>>15383727
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>>15391235
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Chuckleworthy
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>>15381016
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Hilarious
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>>15380943
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>>15380988
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>>15383762
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>>15386573
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>>15386769
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>>15386891
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>>15388453
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>>15388698
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>>15389385
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>>15389848
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>>15391149
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| 138 |
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>>>/pol/
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| 139 |
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>>15388257
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| 140 |
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>>15390722
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| 141 |
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>>15390861
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| 142 |
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Marge
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| 143 |
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--- 15391811
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| 144 |
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>>15391548
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| 145 |
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I was waitig for the punchline but this one is just terrible lol
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| 146 |
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--- 15391880
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| 147 |
+
What do engineers use for birth control?
|
| 148 |
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--- 15391982
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| 149 |
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>>15390861
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| 150 |
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that man hasn't read hegel's definition of science for if he had, he would weep
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| 151 |
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--- 15391988
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| 152 |
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>>15391811
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| 153 |
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you must understand, seven years ago was a different time
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| 154 |
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--- 15392067
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| 155 |
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>>15389848
|
| 156 |
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This assumes most billionaires are Jews, which I don't think is the case
|
| 157 |
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--- 15392121
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| 158 |
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>>15391880
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| 159 |
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Their personalities
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--- 15392452
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>>15392067
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| 162 |
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--- 15392606
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| 163 |
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>>15381016
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| 164 |
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Millennials used to look at tweets like this as teens and go "waow"
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| 165 |
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--- 15392871
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| 166 |
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>>15392606
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| 167 |
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>millennials
|
| 168 |
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>tweets
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| 169 |
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>teens
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| 170 |
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I don't care what the demographers say, if you couldn't already buy whiskey when Twitter was founded you are not in the same generation as me.
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>>15381634
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>linking to some videos instead of doing your own research
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>>15381634
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>linking to some videos instead of doing your own research
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--- 15392060
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I clocked time
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I have been here forever
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--- 15392259
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>>15381213 (OP)
|
| 302 |
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>Big Bang has been refuted
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| 303 |
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"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
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| 304 |
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– Hitchen's Razor
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--- 15392262
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>>15381634
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this level of autism is impressive, even at 4chan
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--- 15392280
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>>15382820
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| 310 |
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>And God said, Let there be light, and there was light
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| 311 |
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The Bible literally explained the CMB
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--- 15392286
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>>15392280
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| 314 |
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nah bro, that was referencing saturn flaring up when it was captured by Sol
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| 539 |
My neighboring town is completely full of Indians. Everywhere you go is full of Indians. Supermarkets, apartment complexes, gyms. It is extremely uncomfortable being surrounded by these people. I know people who moved out of that town because they couldn't take the number of Indians living there.
|
| 540 |
|
| 541 |
FFS, why don't you brown street shitters improve your home country and make it more inhabitable instead of mass immigrating here??
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My neighboring town is completely full of Indians. Everywhere you go is full of Indians. Supermarkets, apartment complexes, gyms. It is extremely uncomfortable being surrounded by these people. I know people who moved out of that town because they couldn't take the number of Indians living there.
|
| 540 |
|
| 541 |
FFS, why don't you brown street shitters improve your home country and make it more inhabitable instead of mass immigrating here??
|
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+
--- 15390329
|
| 543 |
+
>>15390186
|
| 544 |
+
Lemme guess, canada?
|
| 545 |
+
>FFS, why don't you brown street shitters improve your home country and make it more inhabitable instead of mass immigrating here??
|
| 546 |
+
Because they are brown
|
| 547 |
+
--- 15390349
|
| 548 |
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>>15385725
|
| 549 |
+
>>15390085
|
| 550 |
+
>ignores tribal nature of humanity and ape species in general, ethnic genetic interests, the fact that men will never assent to their women being colonized by genetic aliens/foreigners
|
| 551 |
+
|
| 552 |
+
low T cope. invade some more invaders, femoid
|
| 553 |
+
--- 15390410
|
| 554 |
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>>15383358
|
| 555 |
+
Yeah and it's changing it for the worse.
|
| 556 |
+
--- 15390455
|
| 557 |
+
80% of the European population is going to be brown by 2100 as well.
|
| 558 |
+
--- 15390499
|
| 559 |
+
>>15383691
|
| 560 |
+
South america has about 200million
|
| 561 |
+
--- 15390807
|
| 562 |
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>>15389727
|
| 563 |
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https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Litigation_Release/Litigation%20Release%20-%20The%20Strategic%20Consequences%20of%20Chinese%20Racism%20%20201301.pdf
|
| 564 |
+
>This condition yields a significant asymmetry for the United States. It provides empirical evidence of how the Chinese see non-‐Han others. Historically, they have perceived darker peoples as inferiors. This remains true today. They are the world’s only racist superpower.
|
| 565 |
+
>I suggest the following themes that United States Defense decision-‐
|
| 566 |
+
makers might draw upon as asymmetrical messages to weaken China’s
|
| 567 |
+
support in the world. The first of these themes should be to advance a
|
| 568 |
+
“reality check” to the global community: “how do Chinese words match
|
| 569 |
+
Chinese deeds when it comes to treating people fairly and equally.”
|
| 570 |
+
>The second theme is to introduce fault. “Why do the Chinese refuse to
|
| 571 |
+
change their racist views of the rest of the world?” Or more succinctly, “why
|
| 572 |
+
don’t the Chinese like black people; or Indians; or South East Asians; or Latin
|
| 573 |
+
Americans?” Attention needs to be called to its eugenics policies as well.
|
| 574 |
+
“Why do the Chinese support eugenics generations after it was discredited in
|
| 575 |
+
the West?” Likewise, explicit ties to the policies of Nazi Germany may be made since both Berlin and Beijing embraced eugenics, and Beijing continues to do so long after it has been discredited.
|
| 576 |
+
>A third theme is to suggest that there is something profoundly wrong
|
| 577 |
+
with China’s worldview: “Why are the Chinese unable to change their racist
|
| 578 |
+
views?” Or that there is something deeply iniquitous with China itself, there
|
| 579 |
+
is something immoral with the Chinese people, or with their elite: “Why is
|
| 580 |
+
China a racist state?” “Racism has been confronted and defeated worldwide,
|
| 581 |
+
why is it celebrated in China?”
|
| 582 |
+
|
| 583 |
+
This copium was produced by our "intelligence" community and funded by our tax dollars.
|
| 584 |
+
--- 15390850
|
| 585 |
+
>>15385615
|
| 586 |
+
>marriage
|
| 587 |
+
Deprecated by welfare.
|
| 588 |
+
>birth rates
|
| 589 |
+
Solved by immigration.
|
| 590 |
+
|
| 591 |
+
Big brother policies ultimately win and are the only way to manage an advanced society.
|
| 592 |
+
--- 15390891
|
| 593 |
+
>>15381491 (OP)
|
| 594 |
+
--- 15390965
|
| 595 |
+
>>15390850
|
| 596 |
+
Too much of the wrong type of immigration and you cease to have an advanced society. Even too much diversity appears to cause a decline after a certain point.
|
| 597 |
+
--- 15391050
|
| 598 |
+
>>15390356
|
| 599 |
+
Go live in your mudhut savage
|
| 600 |
+
--- 15391067
|
| 601 |
+
>>15381573
|
| 602 |
+
Yeah
|
| 603 |
+
Thanks for losing the war, retards
|
| 604 |
+
--- 15391186
|
| 605 |
+
>>15390891
|
| 606 |
+
>"""centrist"""
|
| 607 |
+
very effective psyop
|
| 608 |
+
--- 15391211
|
| 609 |
+
>>15381512
|
| 610 |
+
if all the nihilist freaks that believe in those views end up sterilizing or killing themselves anyway then is there anything you really need to do about them besides survive, thrive, and outlive them?
|
| 611 |
+
--- 15391227
|
| 612 |
+
>>15390891
|
| 613 |
+
cant believe he ate that poor microsoft employee
|
| 614 |
+
--- 15391379
|
| 615 |
+
>People will get replaced by different people
|
| 616 |
+
Oh my God this has never happened before in history.
|
| 617 |
+
--- 15391441
|
| 618 |
+
Hey white people, the world doesnt owe you an ethnostate!
|
| 619 |
+
--- 15391453
|
| 620 |
+
>>15381491 (OP)
|
| 621 |
+
This doesn't prove diversity is bad. It proves whites are racist and respond poorly to diversity.
|
| 622 |
+
--- 15391475
|
| 623 |
+
>>15391453
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Everyone is racist.
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Anyone who claims to not be racist is a racist AND a cowardly liar.
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>>15391475
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How can you be racist if you're all the races
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>>15391441
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thats right, only jews deserve their ethnostate
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The white populations birthrate is increasing rapidly globally.
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There’s going to be billions more pure whites in no time.
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I find the negative threads to be suspicious and evidently repetitive.
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Time for a new 4chan to be made without fake admin.
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People can only make positive choices if they think positive thoughts.
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Whatever has to happen for real progress is happening.
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>i go to 4chan.org to post government propaganda
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>>15387354
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>i go to 4chan.org to post government propaganda
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This is going down because green policy is counterproductive for fighting CSTO in world war 3.
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>>15390624
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And by csto I meant russia and china, sorry I'm retarded.
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>>15383070
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This. There's no standards, and all that matters is funding and accolades. Majority of scientists aren't even nerds, just normies.
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t.ex pharmaceutical scientist
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>>15386153
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based truth speaker. their souls are blacker the blackest gorilla nigger deep in the jungles of the congo
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>>15381816
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>clotbros we won
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>>15390659
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Modern nerds are almost worse than normies. They're easily taken in by comicbookish delusions like global heating from an undetectable trace gas.
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>>15381592 (OP)
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al gore told everyone that we would be underwater by 2020
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that hasn't happened in fact not a single point or theory from climate change scientists has come true
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satellites tell us there is more co2 in the air in terms of parts per million, sure, but nobody funded by al gore, soros, bill gates, jimi carter, or literally anyone have gone through the effort of calculating how much c02 actually incurs a greenhouse effect on a planet. It doesn't take a degree to realize that a ball of matter and gas inside space doesn't behave like a greenhouse inside an atmosphere of air
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>>15387223
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>california has a drought for years
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>climate change!!!
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>california gets a ton of rain
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>climate change!!!
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Is there any possible situation that you wouldn't make that claim?
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climate change is caused by humans however it is not caused by meat production. Climate change is almost exclusively caused by oil/gas, anythung requiring a lot of computing power, etc
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>>15391481
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>Climate change is almost exclusively caused by oil/gas,
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All that sequestered carbon used to be in the atmosphere, and the planet was warmer, wetter, and greener, and life evolved and flourished.
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Warmer planet = more life.
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Why do Climate-Change cultists hate evolution and life-diversity?
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Why do Climate-Change cultists want to cause massive CO2 drops that cause worldwide crop failures and mass starvation.
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>>15381592 (OP)
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What if you Knew™?
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>>15391456
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There is none. The Californication of the globe is now complete. Everyone has the cultural memory of a fruit fly.
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>>15391481
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>anythung requiring a lot of computing power
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so like the climate scientists' massive computer simulations that are always wrong?
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>>15391908
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Creating the hockey stick fraud probably caused more global warming than an entire herd of cattle.
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>>15392000
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There was an and Earth Day rally downtown a few days ago, a bunch of high school kids showed up to participate. They took the bus to get there.
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>>15388509
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>>15389515
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>Any evidence that disproves my claim is just:
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>Le gubberment
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>Le Jews
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>Le leftards
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>Le goyim
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>Le deep state
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People's reliance on phones has made them dumb
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>>15382142
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Now inflation is a symptom of climate change too? Just like disparate outcomes for blacks, right? Jeez, I can’t wait until the day this climate change house of cards comes tumbling down, and you people are finally revealed as the charlatans you are
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>>15392553
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You're so pathetically obvious
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>>15384016
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Lmao. Prove we’re running out of oil, schlomo. If we were actually nearing the end of the era of useful oil extraction, countries would be building nuclear power plants, not decommissioning them. I do not believe that oil is running out because no sane country would allow the retarded denuclearization policies that green parties support, unless we had something to fall back on to power or counties when their shitty little wind turbines end up not working (hint, it’s more fossil fuel power)
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>>15392560
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your naive trust in governments duly noted. but unfortunately, national governments really are dumb enough to do what Germany did, decommissioning all nuclear power plants. a democratically elected government is the summary caricature of the electorate, what would you expect from them?
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>>15381986
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his point is that jews murdered the guy who was trying to invent the thing that the OP is asking about
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if jews are going to kill someone who tries to invent someone and no one gasses them in return, then that thing will never get invented
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>>15383934
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why can't you own chudjak and have fun like everyone else?
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>>15381763 (OP)
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1. firing something at 8000 m/s in atmosphere equals massive air drag, extreme heat.
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>>15381763 (OP)
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Use this gun system, or other surface based launchers, to reach a sky hook rotating satellite at around 100,000 feet. Boom, you're in space. No rocket fuel or faggy Elon Muck needed.
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>>15381986
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his point is that jews murdered the guy who was trying to invent the thing that the OP is asking about
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if jews are going to kill someone who tries to invent someone and no one gasses them in return, then that thing will never get invented
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>>15381763 (OP)
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1. firing something at 8000 m/s in atmosphere equals massive air drag, extreme heat.
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>>15381763 (OP)
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Use this gun system, or other surface based launchers, to reach a sky hook rotating satellite at around 100,000 feet. Boom, you're in space. No rocket fuel or faggy Elon Muck needed.
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>>15384250
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other humans can make the same thing, it wasn't like he was the only one allowed to make this thing. Just nobody funds it and that's more about what my question was about, it wasn't about why some guy is dead
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>>15385680
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if you read the information though they were getting the shells they fired up to low earth orbit heights. They probably came straight down again because they didn't have any sideways speed. And this was 70+ years ago, surely there's something more powerful we could use now
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>>15389052
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exactly. The problem isn't that it can't get into space, the problem is that nobody's doing anything with the idea. So long as you can get stuff into space then astronauts in space receive things using this method. They don't have to be delicately assembled satellites that this gun is shooting into space. You'd shoot the stuff up there disassembled and people could assemble it in space
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>>15390658
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...it would be something like this maybe. Where the gun shoots the payload, then a satellite already in low earth orbit intercepts the payload, then astronauts could collect the payload from the satellite later on
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bum
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>>15385680
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^ this
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>>15390647
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>they were getting the shells they fired up to low earth orbit heights
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...but not low-Earth orbit velocity.
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>>15381962 (OP)
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>If I want to work in optical design/photonics.
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You know anything about this? In the interviews did you show how knowledgeable you are?
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>If I want to work in optical design/photonics.
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You know anything about this? In the interviews did you show how knowledgeable you are?
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>>15381962 (OP)
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you should have studied chemistry, retard
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>>15381962 (OP)
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Apply to jobs that have nothing to do with physics
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>>15384498
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>We still have rocket launchers, tanks and machine guns in case of a Skynet uprising.
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Yes, and those will all be used on Russia when it punches in the face with a Red, White and Blue thermo-nuclear phallus.
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You fell for the trap...you were so easily predicted when everything you type is known, even Amazon has predictive ads...you think a military application is anywhere near that?!
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HARK, SUCH SWEET NAIVETY.
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>Any advice?
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The organization in Antarctica recruits based on incompetence and Dunning-Kruger. Obviously, the procedure with the best chance of success would have been the dermectomy, or whatever it is called. A survey of actually competent doctors outside of Antarctica, even average ones, will support overwhelmingly what I am saying and make the unequivocal case for malpractice, which is a farce compared to the crime of turning my brain off with the rape ray to subject me to surgery I was sure would fail and did not want. I bet you could survey nothing but first year residents, and they would all say that the procedure chosen was needlessly destructive.
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>>15381962 (OP)
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Try your hand at Bungie and Certain Affinity. They're gearing up for new IP. Shot in the dark. Good hunting.
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>>15388768
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or ballots in the trashcan
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or ballots in the trashcan
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no need to give the official blank vote to something that is illegitimate
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>>15381969 (OP)
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1) grow red peppers
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2) extract capsaicin with isopropanol or ethyl acetate
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4) aerosol
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>>15381969 (OP)
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>They made pepper spray illegal in Europe
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It took you 7 years to figure that our or is that the only article you could find?
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Degrees of lewdity was not supposed to be a guideline.
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>>15389993
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>two years krav maga + unbreakable umbrella
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gayest post yet.
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>>15389993
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>two years krav maga
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Cardio, just learn to run faster than 99% of the population and you are 100 times safer
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>>15391460
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Defeating a single opponent is not that difficult for someone who is trained and an alpha male muscular.
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Defeating multiple opponents, even for the most massive and talented of fighters, is impossible.
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>>15382392
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>Is Europe actually a democracy?
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Iron Law of Oligarchy demands the answer to this to be no.
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>>15385838
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There's no way an actual human being wrote these posts and thinks these things
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>>15382392
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Democracy is a spook, its always a lie. In America they let 18 year olds vote for president, but they also won't let anyone under 35 be president because they're too immature, so under the same logic how can 18 years old be trusted to vote for president?
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>>15392425
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Even retards get to vote. That way, to get the vote, the candidate needs to make everyone happy, even the retards. Representative democracy means, ideally, you get a say in who is ruling over your life, regardless of whether or not you're an idiot or qualified for office yourself.
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...Which would be fine and even laudable, if we actually had qualification requirements for posts in high government. If every candidate had a certain level education and experience matching their office, then it wouldn't much matter who the retards vote for, but they still get their say.
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But as it stands, we have almost no requirements for office to speak of, so the retards get to vote for anyone who says something that appeals to them, even if they have zero political experience and are only famous because of their time on reality TV. (All a pedophile elite billionaire has to do to get elected is imply he hates the Mexicans, and be pitted against the most hated woman in America.)
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>>15389166
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based.
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>>15389166
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so is 4chan
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>>15390699
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SleaST-I5Eo&t=285s [Embed]
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That was a toy, it could never go anywhere near orbit.
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>>15390699
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MSM has scared off people on 4chan by making it radioactive to others. Thats why 4chan didnt grow as much. Reddit/twitter has pretty much replaced the function of 4chan in making memes. In the past, both of them were controlled by the media elites, but now they've lost control of twitter (thats why they're trying to claim its dead/toxic/unsafe/etc) with all the garbage articles over the last year or so nonstop.
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I think the labels on that picrel are backwards. The elites are the poofs in pink.
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reminder that elon stole the "flare for paypigs" monetization scheme from 4chan
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of course not, they ARE the jannies, since nobody else can be bothered to apply
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>>15391440
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>reddit
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>memes
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those subhumans are only capable of clique bullshit and ideological witch hunts
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4chan is and will always be the only hub for genuine content creation, as the shrieking faggots have no power here
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That was an SA invention
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>>15391550
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>pass user
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Yeah it's funny how the narrative changed so fast
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redditors used to love this guy
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>OMG ELON IS A GENIUS!!
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But now he's a dumb evil nazi
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It's all political, and it's hilarious
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Of course kike-chan is just a mirror because most oldfags left and you cunts are all discord trannies
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>>15392564
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The earth is flat with a dome. Elon Musk is a globohomo puppet. People are merely slowly waking up to the true nature of our reality.
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Fuck off tranny
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I agree that it'd be nice to have it segregated into a different more on topic thread, however I think there wouldn't be enough activity in the threads since they'd both be diluted. Also there's the risk of a lot of people cross-posting as soon as they don't get an answer within 5 minutes of posting it in one of the generals.
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>>15389250
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I agree that it'd be nice to have it segregated into a different more on topic thread, however I think there wouldn't be enough activity in the threads since they'd both be diluted. Also there's the risk of a lot of people cross-posting as soon as they don't get an answer within 5 minutes of posting it in one of the generals.
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--- 15390384
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I only got into engineering for the money.
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I barely make much though.
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| 564 |
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And I am a complete fraud. I have zero interest in it and never learn anything. I have to job hop every 6 months because that's how long it takes for my employer to realize I have no idea what I'm doing and don't care. I lie like crazy on my resume and then can't do what I said I can do. When they say "I thought you said you had experience with this at your last job?" I just go "oh we didn't use it like this."
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>>15383612 (OP)
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What are the best job opportunities for someone with a PhD biomedical engineering who wants to keep doing wet lab work? I'm not really interested in a postdoc because of the the shit pay and relative lack of availability.
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--- 15390459
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>>15390384
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Ultra based. You are not a fraud. Fraudulence is the new honesty. The conman is the American archetype since Melville. Keep doing what you’re doing and get better at it. I want you making twice your salary by 2025 by leveraging your “experience”
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--- 15390475
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>>15390384
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If you keep hopping jobs, eventually employers are going to notice and refuse to hire you. In fact, it probably too late by now.
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--- 15390637
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| 575 |
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Guys, I need help.
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| 576 |
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| 577 |
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I’ve applied for a master in systems engineering where I will do the master while working 50% in a company.
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| 578 |
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Currently, I’ve gotten 4 offers and I need some input.
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| 579 |
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| 580 |
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Offer 1. Small company (15 - 20 people) focused on battery installations and electric drivelines. Tasks I would do is PLC, electrical drawings and commissioning. Possibility to travel in Europe and Asia (most likely forced to). Located in a big city (>500k).
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| 581 |
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Don’t know how relevant a master in systems engineering would be here.
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| 582 |
+
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| 583 |
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Offer 2. Small company (70 - 80 people (2k worldwide)) and its more consulting work where almost everything is done in house. They do a lot of cool stuff like implementing control systems for autonomous driving or electrification of trucks. I would mostly be able to focus on what I want to do. Could be control systems, could be embedded systems etc. Located in a small city (<50k).
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| 584 |
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Has their own systems engineering department.
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| 586 |
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Offer 3. Small IT/Engineering company (30 - 50 (250 worldwide)). Work would be related to PLM. Tasks could be working with Siemens teamcenter or other PLM stuff (related to manufacturing). I guess it’s pretty standard. They mentioned CAD and maybe SQL + PowerBI as possible work as well. Located in the same city as offer 1.
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| 587 |
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|
| 588 |
+
Offer 4. Small startup (<10 people) doing work related to battery storage in construction, aqua etc and eventually automated assembly of batteries. Don’t seem to know what systems engineering is and when asked, seemed to have no idea how my studies would benefit them and vice versa. Located in the same city as offer 2.
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| 589 |
+
|
| 590 |
+
My bachelor is in automation/robotics, but I’m not the most technical/practical guy, so I’m basically not even considering offer 1. Offer 4 is interesting but it’s a startup and I don’t want to study something that I’ll never make use of.
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| 591 |
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| 592 |
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Thoughts? The best offer salary wise (offer 1) is at about average salary, and I think I can get the same amount from the rest.
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| 594 |
+
I’m a euro.
|
| 595 |
+
--- 15390820
|
| 596 |
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>>15390637
|
| 597 |
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Number 2 seems the best one by far.
|
| 598 |
+
|
| 599 |
+
More people means more room to make mistakes, more people to rely on, less reliant on having you in the office during exam season, more room to move around and try different roles in the company.
|
| 600 |
+
|
| 601 |
+
Also seems to be more related to systems engineering than the other options. Being able to pivot to other industries like automotive is also a nice bonus. Consulting work also means that there'd be more variety in the work you'd do.
|
| 602 |
+
|
| 603 |
+
Only drawback is the location, I personally don't mind living in a smaller town, but the distance to your university might be a drawback, you didn't specify where your university is so I can't tell.
|
| 604 |
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--- 15390898
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| 605 |
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>>15390637
|
| 606 |
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>>15390820
|
| 607 |
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I agree, Offer 2 seems the best. I work in automation and well..
|
| 608 |
+
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| 609 |
+
Offer 1 sounds like of travel, which translation to a lot of commissioning and a lot of hours. I'm assuming you are salary so you'll get fucked here
|
| 610 |
+
|
| 611 |
+
Offer 3. sounds fine, less tied to manufacturing on the plant floor and more ties to data / MES / IT / (((data science)))
|
| 612 |
+
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| 613 |
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Offer 4 is a startup and well fuck that
|
| 614 |
+
--- 15390950
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| 615 |
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>>15390820
|
| 616 |
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Yeah, sorry. The university is located in that exact town (offer 2 and 4).
|
| 617 |
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The workplace of offer 1 and 4 is 1 hour away from the university with train, but I would live inbetween so it would only be 45 minutes approx.
|
| 618 |
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| 619 |
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I would only spend 10 days each semester at the university so the location doesn’t really matter.
|
| 620 |
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| 621 |
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I grew up in a place with <1k people, so yeah size doesn’t really matter that much. To be a small town there is a lot of high tech companies actually
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| 622 |
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| 623 |
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>>15390898
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| 624 |
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I get paid hourly so the only negative with working a lot would be less time for studies.
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| 625 |
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| 626 |
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I also think offer 3 sounds okay, mainly because it seems chill lol. And I guess it’s nice to be on the software side as you mentioned.
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| 627 |
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| 628 |
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So offer 2 or maybe 3 it is then, and I agree. They seem to be the best choice. I have a interview with a large defence company left. They would probably be my number one option if they were to offer me a job.
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| 629 |
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| 630 |
+
Thanks to you both.
|
| 631 |
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--- 15390986
|
| 632 |
+
Once you get an impressive sounding job title or company on your resume, interviewing gets so much easier.
|
| 633 |
+
Most of the time now the hiring team talks for like 90% of the time of the interview. It's almost like they are the ones trying to impress me.
|
| 634 |
+
--- 15391334
|
| 635 |
+
I'm glad I started reading up on stoicism, because after getting rejected for 3 months straight and the one job I got into being cancelled I think I'd kill myself otherwise
|
| 636 |
+
--- 15391340
|
| 637 |
+
Why does everyone claim they have a "competitive salary"
|
| 638 |
+
wtf does that even mean?
|
| 639 |
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--- 15391361
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| 640 |
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>>15391340
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| 641 |
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it's corporate speak to avoid coming right out with a number
|
| 642 |
+
--- 15391496
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| 643 |
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>>15391334
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| 644 |
+
Took me well over a year to get a job and then I had to wait for clearance and now it’s been a year and a half. You’ll be ok
|
| 645 |
+
--- 15392297
|
| 646 |
+
guys is engineering hard?
|
| 647 |
+
I did pretty good as calculus but shit at physics, but my physics teacher was a fuckhead
|
| 648 |
+
I'm thinking about going to CC for an engineer transfer degree
|
| 649 |
+
--- 15392311
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| 650 |
+
I have to finalize my major NOW and I'm stuck between going all in on CS or just simple industrial drawing CAD stuff
|
| 651 |
+
CAD/Drafting stuff sounds easy to get into, simple 2 year course even a deadbeat could come out on top of, probably just 1 year to get some kind of work, engi BA extension if I feel like it, dont know if ill enjoy it myself but its what my dad does (he isnt pushing it on me). Pay/Growth sounds a little grim. More interested in the competitive architectural stuff and house/interior design.
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| 652 |
+
CS sounds way above my head. I'm told you really should go for the 4 year. I'd have to transfer from community college after 2. I've retained 0 math from HS. I'm 25, and if I commit it feels like my life won't be starting till 30. I've really enjoyed small programming projects freelance or fun. Its the only "useful" skill/hobby I gravitated towards. I see the work my CS friends do, and it seems very idyllic to me.
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| 653 |
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--- 15392317
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| 654 |
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>>15391340
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| 655 |
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They're competing for the lowest salaries
|
| 656 |
+
--- 15392319
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| 657 |
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>>15392297
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| 658 |
+
None of it is hard if you study properly, even physics
|
| 659 |
+
--- 15392323
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| 660 |
+
I'm really fascinated still by AI theoretically, visions of AGI, autonomous driving etc., but after sitting in the field for 3 years I really don't enjoy how working on it looks like
|
| 661 |
+
I wanted to create cool stuff, instead I'm making 1000 small changes to a network to see which gets 0.1% better in some specific scenario over and over again
|
| 662 |
+
--- 15392333
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| 663 |
+
>>15392319
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| 664 |
+
how does one study properly?
|
| 665 |
+
--- 15392410
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| 666 |
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what happens to tech during great depression
|
| 667 |
+
--- 15392427
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| 668 |
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>>15392410
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| 669 |
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startups and unneeded auxiliary companies get wiped out
|
| 670 |
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--- 15392590
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| 671 |
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>>15392297
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| 672 |
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It can be, if you're willing to put in the hours and study properly you'll be fine though. Diligence counts for a lot more than intelligence, especially when you're an undergrad.
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| 673 |
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| 674 |
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>>15392311
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| 675 |
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If you already know how to code then CS is easy to get into. Those that have a hard time are usually those who have zero prior experience. If you already have a few projects under your belt that you've gotten paid for then you should have a nice head start. It sounds like you like CS more, and honestly considering the recession your career wouldn't start until you're 30 anyway.
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| 676 |
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--- 15392617
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| 677 |
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>>15392333
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| 678 |
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Short answer is put some effort in. Passing any exam is mostly memorizing, doing well in it means adding some understanding.
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| 680 |
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Pay attention in lectures for a start, engage with them and ask questions. Don't just accept the information at face value. Spend time reviewing the material, just a little every day. Practice questions from coursework or textbooks, make sure you can solve and understand them, seek advice if you can't. Last part is just memorising the facts/figures/equations/names and whatever, the parts you have to memorize, not learn. Different people have different methods for it, I find flash cards work, reviewing them weekly and practicing the ones I get wrong more regularly.
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| 681 |
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| 682 |
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Take calculus for example. You need to memorize some trig identities, common substitutions, maybe a derivation or two, matrix identities, tensor identities, product rule, quotient rule, limits of exponentials and trig. You also need to practice using these to familiarise yourself with the topix. Find questions in your coursework and past exam papers or textbooks. If you can do that then you can pass an exam without effort because you've answered those type of questions before and remember how to attempt to solve them.
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| 684 |
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For anything stem-based that's all you need, it's not an IQ filter, just an effort and memory filter.
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| 685 |
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--- 15392618
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>>15392311
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Tell me more about this CAD thing
|
| 688 |
+
sounds pretty cool, never heard of that
|
| 689 |
+
honestly I'd be cool with a relaxing 50-70k job
|
| 690 |
+
Tech is a dying field and it's going to change hugely
|
| 691 |
+
right now
|
| 692 |
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--- 15392632
|
| 693 |
+
I can't imagine there being many jobs in IT in few years when models like GPT keep on growing and being more accessible
|
| 694 |
+
What will there be left CS bros? Critical infrastructure, real-time systems?
|
| 695 |
+
--- 15392642
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| 696 |
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>>15392632
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| 697 |
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GPT is just a language prediction model. It can't actually understand what it outputs, nor reason and make decisions. It can also only predict based on the (stolen) content is is trained on. Do any job which requires a bit more thought or is blue sky non-derivative work and you're golden. In all likelihood even research jobs will be significantly assisted by AI but will never be replaced so long as we use predictive neural models.
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--- 15392699
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>>15392642
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| 700 |
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Bro I....
|
| 701 |
+
>https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712
|
| 702 |
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--- 15392729
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| 703 |
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>>15392699
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| 704 |
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Oh fugg
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--- 15392900
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>>15392590
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>and honestly considering the recession your career wouldn't start until you're 30 anyway.
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+
>>15392618
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>Tech is a dying field and it's going to change hugely
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| 710 |
+
qrd?
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--- 15392907
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| 712 |
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>>15392900
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+
>qrd?
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+
AI
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>>15389100
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If you put multiple people from different religious in the same room, each of them will say that their book is the “real” book, the right book. There have been wars because of these stupid disputes, millions of people have died because of this in religious holy wars.
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People are brainwashed on their specific religious book.
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>>15389100
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If you put multiple people from different religious in the same room, each of them will say that their book is the “real” book, the right book. There have been wars because of these stupid disputes, millions of people have died because of this in religious holy wars.
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People are brainwashed on their specific religious book.
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--- 15390530
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Op here, please take your retarded religion discussion elsewhere.
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| 192 |
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So yeah, things like pomodoro technique, i know there are other organizational techniques. Which ones are the best? which ones are really based on science?
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--- 15390534
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>>15387470
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what's your job and do you work those 8 hours without break?¡
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--- 15391479
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>>15390530
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that shit is just common sense, yeah don't work 8 hours in a row take breaks. You don't need a method to tell you that, that's just something they sell to the hipsters
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--- 15391924
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bump
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--- 15391941
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>>15389100
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Interesting, can you tell me again about what happened in the first yoctosecond 13.6 billion years ago.
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>>15390203
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he seemed to think it was because the group became too unrelated on average which reduced fertility some how, i can try and find it, he was a bit of an oddball but I felt some of his arguments were valid enough to investigate
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--- 15390218
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>>15390203
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he seemed to think it was because the group became too unrelated on average which reduced fertility some how, i can try and find it, he was a bit of an oddball but I felt some of his arguments were valid enough to investigate
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maybe there is an illusion of control
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>>15390218
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>the group became too unrelated on average which reduced fertility some how
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Hmm, might fit. The "unrelated" part might imply a possible mechanism to escape the oscillation ... divergence, speciation, ofc that would require expansion into a new "niche". Fertility effects would ofc too make sense here if seen from the "investment" side with exponential growth and niche saturation. Feel free to dump a link here, would like to read that later if you can find it again ... :)
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>>15388866
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>and they were crowded hell holes with no escape in which the mice had no way to know resources were effectively infinite.
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this perfectly explains why cities are dysgenic and produce such insane ideas as "global heating" and "transsexualism."
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>>15390218
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I tried finding his site and since I last found it internet search engines seem to have become unusable? What the hell happened to google?
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http://nobabies.net/index.html
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I'll warn you the site is a bit homespun and he goes off on weird tangents but the insect stuff was pretty interesting
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>>15387542
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>denies that behavior of mouse utopia is clearly and obviously analogous to state of many things in modern society
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>uses buzzwords without understanding their meaning
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>undeserved smugness
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relax bud
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>>15391466
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oh and he tried making youtube vids, some are interesting
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https://youtu.be/sYFRe2SqKk4 [Embed]
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>>15384472 (OP)
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Hard times create strong mice
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Strong mice create good times
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Good times create weak mice
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Weak mice create hard times
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>>15390218
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>he seemed to think it was because the group became too unrelated on average which reduced fertility some how
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You know, you could learn something about actual science and actual biology relating to the real study of genetics, and therefore the actual thing you're talking about.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift#Drift_and_fixation
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ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_population_size
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_threshold_(evolution)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutational_meltdown
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For drift and speciation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation#Modes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_zone
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And introgression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_speciation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
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Fairly asked, what does this have to do with fertility?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripatric_speciation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_isolation
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And so models of effective population size constraints on speciation
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677325/
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3233714/
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Therefore depends on,
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1. Effective founder population size (ancestral genetic diversity preserved in current population)
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2. Time from reproductive isolation
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3. Rates of interpopulation genetic divergence (any cause)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_divergence
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So the answer is low mutation rate, fairly preserved "goldilocks (for stasis)" effective population size, miniscule population isolation time, etc, amount to evolutionary stasis.
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https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2015665118
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So no, we do not have fertility problems, neither from high mutagenic load nor genetic difference.
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>>15391771
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>So no, we do not have fertility problems, neither from high mutagenic load nor genetic difference.
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I don't recall mentioning either?
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>>15384472 (OP)
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that utopia is not paradise, but hell
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freedom matters
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>>15391781
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>I don't recall mentioning either?
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Did you forget the context of the thread? If it is with respect to genetic drift and mutagenic load on divergence resulting in fertility incompatibility, this definitely does not apply to humans. Similarly, if it is a matter of inbreeding (which it plainly is) with respect to Calhoun's work humans do not qualify there either.
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Neither calhoun's work applies in either sense to humans nor does the apparent work, given by the titles I see from the schizo linked here >>15391466 apply to the reality of biology and what we currently know about human populations.
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My question is why in the fuck do you people pursue nutcases instead of the actual science to find relevant answers?
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>>15391771
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>So no, we do not have fertility problems, neither from high mutagenic load nor genetic difference.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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>>15391805
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I think you've assumed I was talking specifically about something when I wasn't. I'm wary of what you call "nutcases" but often they have an idea or two worth investigating further
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If you're so well read on the topic you ought to at least be familiar with Sibly's paper or others' comparing fertility against group size or relatedness right?
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>>15389979
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>But it does not. The Malthusian retards do blame "density" and think salvation lies in thinning the herd. Delusional. Density simply pushes what is already irrevocably degenerated over the edge ... any other type of stressful pressure would do the same.
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Naturally, what I covered here >>15391771 refutes any inferences you may think you can draw and with respect to the discussion that followed. So far as pertains to any claims of fertility with respect to anything to do with human genetic variation or mechanisms thereof, as speculated about per >>15390203 For other cases, relevant research on a non-genomic basis would involve ecology and carrying capacity of population dynamics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrying_capacity
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With respect to speculating as to "causes" ultimately reflecting a "qualitative carrying capacity" rather than mere caloric estimates as with other species.
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It naturally follows that if humans are no longer tied qualitatively to fecundity, as you see in transitions from high infant mortality hunter-gatherer societies and primitive agriculture to industrial societies. As qualitative aspects of life cease depending upon fecundity, and options like birth control exist to allow planning how many children are born, it stands to reason people aren't blind to the obvious detriment of exceeding the "qualitative carrying capacity" of their economic situation. Mere passive reality suffices to reinforce this fact.
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>>15391824
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>I think you've assumed I was talking specifically about something when I wasn't
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I think you think they're not connected when they are. Be fair, I have a very small text limit to work with.
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>If you're so well read on the topic you ought to at least be familiar with Sibly's paper or others' comparing fertility against group size or relatedness right?
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Especially with respect to relatedness and kin selection. I am familiar, and we're not in the 1980s anymore. Want me to discuss research on group dynamics and group selection?
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>>15391852
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If you can answer why there's a positive relationship between relatedness and fertility then go ahead?
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>>15391852
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>With respect to speculating as to "causes" ultimately reflecting a "qualitative carrying capacity" rather than mere caloric estimates as with other species.
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With respect to Sibly's 2005 paper his compiled results suggested that a species population size could naturally exceed the carrying capacity of the local environment. I wondered if this might partly be a factor in island dwarfism?
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>>15391858
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>If you can answer why there's a positive relationship between relatedness and fertility then go ahead?
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Depends on degree of relatedness and in what sense. The first and most obvious answer is "because of geographic proximity", and that is so obvious I'm not sure if you meant the question in another sense. If you want a different answer for a different aspect of that question you need to get a whole lot more specific.
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>>15391882
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>With respect to Sibly's 2005 paper his compiled results suggested that a species population size could naturally exceed the carrying capacity of the local environment. I wondered if this might partly be a factor in island dwarfism?
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I assume you mean "On the regulation of populations of mammals, birds, fish and insects."? For the concave relationship I am pretty sure, if memory serves, that just comports with standard carrying capacity. As for spending much of their time above it, that depends entirely on the resource "bank" relative to consumption. Carrying capacity with respect to food supply, depending on what food supply we're talking about, certainly can exceed replacement level and keep exceeding it for a very long time. In the worst end-case scenario that can result in catastrophic and sudden extinction, or severe population declines as formerly seen in the U.S. with deer populations.
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In both cases the answers to your question seem to be very obvious, so I am not sure if you intended something more specific. If so, you'll need to explain what you mean more precisely. "carrying capacity" as in resource replenishment rate equivalence is different from "effective resource exhaustion"
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>I wondered if this might partly be a factor in island dwarfism?
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Certainly could. Though there are numerous factors that would play in to size some of which mentioned here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_dwarfism#Possible_causes
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--- 15391940
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>>15391934
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It's old work but what about Price, & Waser papers on Delphinium nelsonii, They examined seed set rates.
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>>15391940
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I don't get the relevance? As a matter of botany I wouldn't be familiar. Especially old work.
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>>15391992
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Not that important, It's just a couple of studies that compare the seed set rate between meadow flowers pollinated with pollen taken from plants growing at various distances. they found it initially increased then decreased as the pollen was sourced from further away. they dissected some and found pollen tube differences.
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>>15392009
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As a general thing tolerance for mutation, or error threshold, and mutation rates or related, considerably differs between Kingdom, domain, and so on. Depending on what you're doing you will find far higher variation of significance among more basal organisms with far shorter adaptation times. Among the fastest is therefore, of course, viruses. Leading to humorously titled articles such as this one,
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"Why are RNA virus mutation rates so damn high?"
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https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3000003
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Also, population mutation rate as a general rule is many times higher than species or fixation rates of those mutations. I.e. pedigree rate vs. phylogeny rate, most mutations are not preserved in populations over evolutionary timescales.
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In any event within "higher eukaryotes", so below domain level and into kingdoms (flora vs fauna). There are also considerably different mutation rates with respect to genome size and how that's used between flora/fauna or further at the phylum level and below. For certain viruses the incredibly high mutation rate and low genome size makes it highly adaptive, and the same is true for various flora or fauna "within domain" or within kingdom. As in, advantage of genome size vs. mutation rate relative to others in the same class or category is a matter of selection pressure and fitness advantage.
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Point is that it's relative, and so there can't be some "hard generalized rule" in spite of the general trend between domains with respect to genome size and mutation rate. Within domain there's quite a lot of variation, and hence error threshold is a matter of population size/effective size in particular within a species.
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>>15392081
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>>15392009
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Sorry I might've flown too high there and did not communicate well. The reason that's relevant is that what may impact or be significant for advantage in some given flora or some given fauna does not on its face have general implication nor applicability. Which is why some particular work on some given plant, or some given species in some given condition, does not imply relevance to some other species or humans in general. Same goes for degree of mutation or genetic variation given humans have comparatively very low phylogenic mutation rates as well as low effective population ancestry.
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It all kind of converges together, evidence wise, and that might be really hard to appreciate if you don't have a very wide reading of the subject matter. That also makes it very hard to communicate properly except in hindsight.
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>>15392093
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>Sorry I might've flown too high there and did not communicate well
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You deviated on an irrelevant tangent about viruses and mutations. I honestly I don't see how any of your points have properly addressed the apparent phenomena of a correlation between fertility and relatedness; or population size and physical displacement as a proxy for relatedness.
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I know of only a limited number of studies that have looked at this phenomena so it's a little difficult to argue this in depth or fully back up every position. But the studies I am aware of are tentatively suggestive of a general even cross kingdom trend between fertility and genetic similarity. What the mechanism behind this process could be I am unsure. If this mechanism exists it is obviously somewhat separate from other factors such as pollution or stress.
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Since we were talking about the Calhoun mouse study I brought up mouse plagues and insects because they seem in a few observed cases to experience a rapid population upswing followed a decline sometimes to extinction that isn't explained by exhaustion of the food supply as would would usually have expected, and although disease propagation could be a factor I find it less appealing as one compared to population genetics one that might involve some sort of epigenetic regulator.
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>>15391852
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>carrying capacity
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Irrelevant here. As I said, saturation (which is not nearly achieved yet) would merely provide the stressor to "reveal" the now intrinsic instability of the population. Can easily replace that with any other destabilizing event. Again, Calhoun is misunderstood if the saturation is seen as the CAUSE of the collapse ... all it did was trigger the inevitable.
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>"qualitative carrying capacity"
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Perhaps a bad designation for what I mean here. Better call it "qualitative load bearing capacity". This primarily acts on the group level, not the individual ... refer to how buildings tend to collapse, the ground floor supports might be fine but if the ones at the top are weak and give in the whole thing comes down as the shifting weight load of the upper failing floors does very well suffice to go over the capacity of the (still intact) ones in the lower.
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>It naturally follows that if humans are no longer tied qualitatively to fecundity
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Oh but we were until "recently". Plenty enough to leave a strong imprint on the gene pool to this day.
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>as you see in transitions from high infant mortality hunter-gatherer societies and primitive agriculture to industrial societies
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And what does that change again? Was there even remotely enough time to adapt on a genomic level? Your gene pool is still that of an equilibrium between HG and farmer genetics (btw two different distinct sub clades, this is important to consider here), the fecundity effects under which farmer adaption occured is now most of your population baseline (I do hope you're familiar with the term "Verhausschweinung") ... now along comes industrialization, the stressor in our little utopia here ...
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>it stands to reason people aren't blind
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Oh ya think ... :D
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>>15384472 (OP)
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Why would you?
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>>15392656
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Have you read this?
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>Low fertility increases descendant socioeconomic position but reduces long-term fitness in a modern post-industrial society
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>2012 Goodman, Koupil, Lawson
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>>15392665
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Not yet but will now, thx! Judging from the abstract for now this is very much one of likely several mechanisms which decrease overall population resilience and promote instability. A colony level stressor (or rather the outward effect of a deeper underlying stressor within the socioeconomic substructure).
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>>15392587
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>I honestly I don't see how any of your points have properly addressed the apparent phenomena of a correlation between fertility and relatedness
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>>15391934
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>>Depends on degree of relatedness and in what sense. The first and most obvious answer is "because of geographic proximity", and that is so obvious I'm not sure if you meant the question in another sense. If you want a different answer for a different aspect of that question you need to get a whole lot more specific.
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>What the mechanism behind this process could be I am unsure.
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I don't know maybe something to do with the major confound being geographical proximity and morphological variation inhibiting mate choice even among those genetically compatible. STILL to do with geographical proximity. But hey what do I know "nothing" I said somehow applies to your genius idea with no cited literature. Try reading what people write.
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>and although disease propagation could be a factor I find it less appealing as one compared to population genetics one that might involve some sort of epigenetic regulator.
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You prefer assuming things not in evidence? Really? Couldn't tell.
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>>15392656
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>Irrelevant here.
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Almost like I pointed that out and explained that whole distinction between qualitative versus mere basal survival need.
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>Better call it "qualitative load bearing capacity".
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This is nonsense.
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>Oh but we were until "recently". Plenty enough to leave a strong imprint on the gene pool to this day.
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This is also nonsense.
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>the fecundity effects under which farmer adaption occured
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This is even more nonsense.
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>Oh ya think ... :D
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I do. You don't appear to. Next time try doing more than shitting on the keyboard and maybe cite some relevant literature for your hot takes beyond a bunch of value judgments and mistakes about genetics to 'support' asinine notions about fecundity.
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>>15392678
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>the major confound being geographical proximity and morphological variation inhibiting mate choice even among those genetically compatible. STILL to do with geographical proximity.
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Helgason's 2008 study on 200 years of icelandic marriage and birth records found that geographical proximity was only a proxy for relatedness, they found relatedness the strongest correlate and quite consistent over the generations studied.
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I don't dismiss the effect of disease in some cases it clearly plays a role but I find the evidence seems to be there to support a possible mechanism involving group genetic similarity.
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>>15392697
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>Helgason's 2008 study on 200 years of icelandic marriage and birth records found that geographical proximity was only a proxy for relatedness, they found relatedness the strongest correlate and quite consistent over the generations studied.
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Did you not notice wild variations every 25 years and flips between miniscule high-error fractions of children in figure C? This is the definition of a spurious correlation.
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>I find the evidence seems to be there to support a possible mechanism involving group genetic similarity.
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In spite of the fact what I presume to be your primary evidence has an effect size hovering around 0 with margins of error larger than the total range of variation at 95% CI. And only being a correlation.
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>>15392724
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>figure c
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Did you miss the purpose of that graph?
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>>15392732
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>Did you miss the purpose of that graph?
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Oh go ahead you tell me. I'm all ears. Meanwhile here's some general resources to help you figure out what the fuck you're talking about,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mating_strategies#Assortative_mating
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assortative_mating#In_humans
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Literature review https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbl.2021.0463
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The main issue in population study is, as stated, population stratification primarily along geographical proximity lines. Also those along socioeconomic and, where relevant, ethnic ones.
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Here's the thing though. Assortative mating works out phenotypically simply as a matter of compatibility especially in modern populations with wider geographic freedom. To any extent degree of kinship may matter in probability of assortative compatibility would, particularly these days, be over-ridden by further freedoms and self-selection.
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The main difference you're trying to argue, however, seems to be a direct effect on fertility rate over and above what could otherwise be explained by degree of trait assortativity and other factors. You need a good deal more evidence for that than "correlation = causation cuz I want it to".
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So you actually didn't understand it? That's kind of sad.
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>appeal to authority
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*brapt* uh oh stinky
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>>15392759
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>So you actually didn't understand it? That's kind of sad.
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I read the actual study and the supplemental material figure C is based on. Same for figure B. So what I suspect is happening is you're taking the claims presented in figure B at face value and dismissing the fact it's necessarily based on data shown in figure C, measure of error included. Hence my pointing out the huge measure of error and spurious nature demonstrated by figure C.
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But fine, ignore all that because you're innumerate. Typical of people with weird ideas in any case. Changes nothing about what I already told you here.>>15392746 So go ahead and pout because your best evidence is shit. Too damn bad. Learn some basic statistics.
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Because he ain't a piece of shit trying to kill the experiment subjects for dumb reasons...
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>This is nonsense.
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Oh ya think ... ;)
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Btw I am rather inclined to tell you to read a fucking book on the basics of biology there, your insight seems to be, well, mediocre at best ... or at least your weasly little attempt to wiggle out of an actual reply to this is. Won't let that slide, newb.
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>>15392786
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Still waiting on a single relevant citation relating to or evidencing any of your ideas however poorly expressed. You are literally being beat out by a guy currently going "correlation = causation cuz I want it to" pouting over how bad his evidence is. That's a really fucking low bar.
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>>15392772
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What I mean is that they only compiled the data into geographical proximity in response to comments on the original paper that found a link between relatedness and fertility. they even state that the data best aligns geographical proximity to fertility during the period of social flux and urbanisation when relatedness and proximity were more aligned.
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The part of their study that I think raises the most interesting questions is actually the decline from 3rd cousins to 8th cousins. Since it is the most statistically robust component.
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>>15392810
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>The part of their study that I think raises the most interesting questions is actually the decline from 3rd cousins to 8th cousins. Since it is the most statistically robust component.
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So what part of "correlation is not causation" do you not understand? That's a long known artifact in consanguinity research, one immediate example to mind is a 1999 paper or thereabouts and similar research on kinship and fertility in the middle-east. Want to know why the decline there? Likelihood of familiarity and therefore general assortativity as described before >>15392746. There's a reason I said it's going to be nigh impossible to disentangle confounds to find such a purportedly weak effect, let alone an inconsistent weak effect.
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>What I mean is that they only compiled the data into geographical proximity in response to comments on the original paper that found a link between relatedness and fertility.
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Which, by the way, follows the same pattern and has the same degree of error as kinship association in the actual paper and in the supplemental from the paper. It is just another way to illustrate the spurious nature and temporal variability of this notion.
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Degree of kinship relatedness to fertility is not consistent through time in this data, and neither is marital radius, or anything else. I have no idea why you chose such a poor correlation to claim causation from when you could've fished for far better ones in the middle-east where consanguinity continues to this day.
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nice try, David
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Checked.
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>>15390388
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wow trips followed by dubs, what are the odds?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgIRClKD4RI [Embed]
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>>15384967 (OP)
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fgt can't into[math] \displaystyle \frac{7}{44}[/math]
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Lol
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stonetoss is not racist but he has black friends right?
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stonetoss is not racist but he has black friends right?
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>>15389998
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Why are you so weak that you get triggered that easily and end up giving an utterly pointless non-reply with nonsensical insults?
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You're not racist, but you really want to humiliate, degrade, and even genocide whites, right?
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She's bolivian.
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nice projection nazi. nobody was talking about you but about the nazi stonetoss.
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you are exposed.
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4chan is a nazi website, go somewhere else if that bothers you
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That's right, speciesist scum. If you eat meat you should be sent to a concentration camp.
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Seems like they actually have a new proof and racist anons thinking it couldn't be true were the retarded ones. I'm shocked.
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Hitler was left-wing cuck scum. If he had been an actual Chad, he could have cleaned up Europe.
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"Racism" is a psyop. Genetics is destiny, read the twin studies thread
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How can operators of the telescope know that the light shifted?
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How can this method of assuming a distance and movement be verified if nobody can do a direct proof of this, since they cannot get close enough?
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| 407 |
How can operators of the telescope know that the light shifted?
|
| 408 |
This requires the knowledge of the properties without shift, to asses that it shifted.
|
| 409 |
How can this method of assuming a distance and movement be verified if nobody can do a direct proof of this, since they cannot get close enough?
|
| 410 |
+
--- 15390239
|
| 411 |
+
>>15386069
|
| 412 |
+
Black hole schizos BTFO.
|
| 413 |
+
--- 15390407
|
| 414 |
+
>>15390164
|
| 415 |
+
>how different could an angle be at 1600 light years difference, when all observatories are on earth?
|
| 416 |
+
1600 lyrs is 500 parsecs. So by definition the parallax angle from the Earth's motion around the Sun is 5 miliarcseconds. That's very measurable. ESA's Gaia mission can measure parallaxes to tens of microarcsec.
|
| 417 |
+
|
| 418 |
+
>It does not:
|
| 419 |
+
>its composition
|
| 420 |
+
Spectroscopy. They don't just attach cameras to telescopes, they're also equipped with a range of instruments.
|
| 421 |
+
|
| 422 |
+
|
| 423 |
+
>inb4 red/blue shift
|
| 424 |
+
>How can operators of the telescope know that the light shifted?
|
| 425 |
+
>This requires the knowledge of the properties without shift, to asses that it shifted.
|
| 426 |
+
Which you measure in the lab.
|
| 427 |
+
>How can this method of assuming a distance and movement be verified if nobody can do a direct proof of this, since they cannot get close enough?
|
| 428 |
+
Parallax is used in the solar system where it can be confirmed with radar.
|
| 429 |
+
--- 15390681
|
| 430 |
+
>>15390407
|
| 431 |
+
So 3 times indirect proof by an unverifyable method of measuremend is used?
|
| 432 |
+
--- 15390704
|
| 433 |
+
>>15385247 (OP)
|
| 434 |
+
I can tell by the swirls that image is CGI. Weird how my mind intuitively understands physics better than our mathematical models.
|
| 435 |
+
--- 15390725
|
| 436 |
+
>>15390681
|
| 437 |
+
Which method do you think is unverifiable?
|
| 438 |
+
--- 15390744
|
| 439 |
+
>>15385247 (OP)
|
| 440 |
+
>by Michelle ***Starr***
|
| 441 |
+
Clearly pushing an agenda.
|
| 442 |
+
--- 15390970
|
| 443 |
+
>>15385274
|
| 444 |
+
i agree that to a lay person it can seem like there's a lot of overreach in astrophysics, but im pretty confident black holes are a thing
|
| 445 |
+
--- 15391261
|
| 446 |
+
>>15390725
|
| 447 |
+
>>15390725
|
| 448 |
+
|
| 449 |
+
Let me elamborate this with a sinple example.
|
| 450 |
+
In engeneering, there are existing laser maeasure tools.
|
| 451 |
+
These have to be accurate to be used.
|
| 452 |
+
These are a indirect method of measuring stuff, but are really comfortable and speed up things.
|
| 453 |
+
|
| 454 |
+
So that they could be approced to be used, they had to be calibrated first, and then prove that the calibration is correct.
|
| 455 |
+
|
| 456 |
+
For this, you are required to physically use a tape measure, and measure the object first, then calibrate the laser, and to verify that the calibration is correct, you take a new real life directly measurable object, and measure it with laser and also with a tape measure. If both line up, then the calibration and accuracy of the laser is verified.
|
| 457 |
+
|
| 458 |
+
With radar, and paralax triangulation methods, there is a big problem, because you cannot directly measure it.
|
| 459 |
+
So none of these methods is verifyable nor does it account for any interference by any "space anomaly".
|
| 460 |
+
It is all indirect measurement.
|
| 461 |
+
--- 15391307
|
| 462 |
+
>>15391261
|
| 463 |
+
>If both line up, then the calibration and accuracy of the laser is verified.
|
| 464 |
+
Not really. You've just assumed the tape measure must be correct.
|
| 465 |
+
|
| 466 |
+
>With radar, and paralax triangulation methods, there is a big problem, because you cannot directly measure it.
|
| 467 |
+
Using light to measure something is just as "direct" as using a tape measure. You've made the absurd assumption the the tape measure must be right. How do you test the tape measure, how is a meter even defined? It's defined from the speed of light. If anything radar is more direct, as you're using the speed of light directly rather than using that to calibrate a rape measure which you then use.
|
| 468 |
+
--- 15391907
|
| 469 |
+
>>15391307
|
| 470 |
+
>How do you test the tape measure, how is a meter even defined? It's defined from the speed of light
|
| 471 |
+
|
| 472 |
+
No it's not.
|
| 473 |
+
A meter is a yefined unit of size. Well befroe the speed of light was known.
|
| 474 |
+
|
| 475 |
+
A laser is indirect because, it works not by measuring distance,
|
| 476 |
+
Which woudl be direct, but by calculating relfected light intensity.
|
| 477 |
+
This in fact can be fucked up by humidity, in which it has to be recalibrated for that humidity.
|
| 478 |
+
|
| 479 |
+
Direct is direct.
|
| 480 |
+
You have a calibrated tool which has the defined size, exactly on it and then you measure.
|
| 481 |
+
|
| 482 |
+
If there is any indirect step in between like:
|
| 483 |
+
>taking a beam
|
| 484 |
+
>letting it reflect
|
| 485 |
+
>picking up the reflection with a sensor
|
| 486 |
+
>then reading the light intensity
|
| 487 |
+
>then calculating the distance from the difference of intensity that the light had in the beginning and when it hit the sensor
|
| 488 |
+
|
| 489 |
+
This is indidrect.
|
| 490 |
+
If you do not measure the distance, but using a surrugate method to calculate the distance from it.
|
| 491 |
+
--- 15391919
|
| 492 |
+
>>15385247 (OP)
|
| 493 |
+
theory
|
| 494 |
+
nothing more than a theory
|
| 495 |
+
dependentupon a stack of cards of other theories and models with known faults
|
| 496 |
+
theories and models that dont hold together unless you make up random imaginary "constants" to fudge everything into somewhat agreeing within the model
|
| 497 |
+
|
| 498 |
+
educated guesstimations of how things might be or how tings might work
|
| 499 |
+
truth is we dont know because we dont have the means to conclusively "prove" any of it
|
| 500 |
+
--- 15391923
|
| 501 |
+
>>15391307
|
| 502 |
+
>rape measure
|
| 503 |
+
--- 15391926
|
| 504 |
+
>>15391919
|
| 505 |
+
Blackholes have been unambiguously observed since the '70s, and GR has been thoroughly tested for over a century. What are you even on about?
|
| 506 |
+
--- 15391930
|
| 507 |
+
>>15391926
|
| 508 |
+
what are you smoking?
|
| 509 |
+
>thoroughly tested?
|
| 510 |
+
ha, i guess you and your professor took an afternoon walk over to the local black hole out behind the old Samson farmstead and sat beside it to go fishing and skip rocks and see how everything reacted huh?
|
| 511 |
+
ok.
|
| 512 |
+
--- 15391969
|
| 513 |
+
>>15391930
|
| 514 |
+
Kek.
|
| 515 |
+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
|
| 516 |
+
--- 15392100
|
| 517 |
+
>>15391307
|
| 518 |
+
I thought the speed of light was a variable what with all that redshift and whatnot, also doesn’t the gravitational pull disrupt the light as well?
|
| 519 |
+
So by my calculations, you don’t know diddly squat based off using light as a constant for an accurate measurement.
|
| 520 |
+
--- 15392340
|
| 521 |
+
>>15391969
|
| 522 |
+
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
|
| 523 |
+
|
| 524 |
+
>“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”
|
| 525 |
+
--- 15392346
|
| 526 |
+
>>15385272
|
| 527 |
+
We still aren't omnipotent. If the semantics are wrong, then we can't convey what's really going on. So, maybe listen to Marcus Aurelius. It's still possible that black holes are showing us something else. They're the absence of actuality, maybe. All I know is that conventional thought is usually bullshit. Does it feel to you that we've really mastered reality or even come close, in a collective way?
|
| 528 |
+
--- 15392382
|
| 529 |
+
>>15392340
|
| 530 |
+
The sources are all there. It's your problem if you can't be bothered to read.
|
| 531 |
+
--- 15392391
|
| 532 |
+
>>15392382
|
| 533 |
+
>The sources are all there.
|
| 534 |
+
|
| 535 |
+
>look it's real
|
| 536 |
+
>our theoretical physics calculation based on assumptions based on a thought experiment turned out as we thought it up to be
|
| 537 |
+
>also it's technically not theoretical but hypothetical because we cannot do an experiment
|
| 538 |
+
>but here we overwhelm you with assumptions, and calculations of those assumptions, with no real world evidence
|
| 539 |
+
>but here are 10000 studies and pop sci articles which built on the foundation based of an thought experiment with a hypothetical models
|
| 540 |
+
>and unverifyable measurement methods of unreachable objects
|
| 541 |
+
--- 15392401
|
| 542 |
+
>>15392391
|
| 543 |
+
Retard. GR makes tons of real quantitative predictions about orbits, redshift, lensing, time dilation etc. Historically, lensing was first verified in the famous 1919 Eddington experiment which was the first true verification of GR, there's been countless experiments after that which support it.
|
| 544 |
+
--- 15392413
|
| 545 |
+
>>15392401
|
| 546 |
+
>R makes tons of real quantitative predictions about orbits, redshift, lensing, time dilation etc
|
| 547 |
+
No.
|
| 548 |
+
|
| 549 |
+
>Historically, lensing was first verified in the famous 1919 Eddington experiment which was the first true verification of GR
|
| 550 |
+
|
| 551 |
+
No.
|
| 552 |
+
Eddington experiment:
|
| 553 |
+
"The Eddington experiment was an observational test of general relativity, organised by the British astronomers Frank Watson Dyson and Arthur Stanley Eddington.
|
| 554 |
+
The aim of the expeditions was to measure the gravitational deflection of starlight passing near the Sun.
|
| 555 |
+
The value of this deflection had been predicted by Albert Einstein in a 1911 paper; however, this initial prediction turned out not to be correct because it was based on an incomplete theory of general relativity"
|
| 556 |
+
|
| 557 |
+
Dude this experiment is so retarded...
|
| 558 |
+
it literally proves nothing.
|
| 559 |
+
|
| 560 |
+
So they went to two locations.
|
| 561 |
+
To measure light bending..
|
| 562 |
+
With stationary telescopes on earth.
|
| 563 |
+
The made up shit about gravitational bending.
|
| 564 |
+
Without taking into account:
|
| 565 |
+
>atmospheric distortion
|
| 566 |
+
>temperature chance during an eclipse
|
| 567 |
+
"Look at how quickly the surface cools down when the solar illumination is removed," Dennis Reuter, a TIRS instrument scientist, said in the statement. It drops at a rate of more than 180 degrees Fahrenheit (100 degrees C) per hour when the full eclipse begins, he added. "
|
| 568 |
+
|
| 569 |
+
https://www.space.com/lunar-eclipse-temperature-changes-satellite-images
|
| 570 |
+
|
| 571 |
+
Absolute retardation.
|
| 572 |
+
Buzzwords, and memes. Without any justification for why and how this experiment is accurate.
|
| 573 |
+
>just believe
|
| 574 |
+
>it's scientism guys
|
| 575 |
+
It's science fiction.
|
| 576 |
+
|
| 577 |
+
Also how in the fuck, does this experiment prove black holes are what they are reported to be?
|
| 578 |
+
--- 15392419
|
| 579 |
+
>>15391907
|
| 580 |
+
>A meter is a yefined unit of size. Well befroe the speed of light was known.
|
| 581 |
+
Nope, in SI the meter is defined by the speed of light, which is a fixed constant.
|
| 582 |
+
|
| 583 |
+
>A laser is indirect because, it works not by measuring distance,
|
| 584 |
+
>Which woudl be direct, but by calculating relfected light intensity.
|
| 585 |
+
Nope, you use the time of flight.
|
| 586 |
+
>This in fact can be fucked up by humidity, in which it has to be recalibrated for that humidity.
|
| 587 |
+
And a tape measure changes with temperature.
|
| 588 |
+
>You have a calibrated tool which has the defined size, exactly on it and then you measure.
|
| 589 |
+
Calibrated from light. the light is more direct.
|
| 590 |
+
--- 15392422
|
| 591 |
+
>>15386027
|
| 592 |
+
this level of autism is impressive, even at 4chan
|
| 593 |
+
--- 15392424
|
| 594 |
+
>>15392100
|
| 595 |
+
>I thought the speed of light was a variable what with all that redshift and whatnot
|
| 596 |
+
It is not under relativity. The founding principle is that the speed of light is the same for all observers .
|
| 597 |
+
>also doesn’t the gravitational pull disrupt the light as well?
|
| 598 |
+
Doesn't change the speed
|
| 599 |
+
>So by my calculations, you don’t know diddly squat based off using light as a constant for an accurate measurement.
|
| 600 |
+
The consistency of the speed of light has been measured to incredible precision, which experiments like Michelson and Morley.
|
| 601 |
+
--- 15392447
|
| 602 |
+
>>15392413
|
| 603 |
+
You haven't linked anything suggesting major changes in starlight position during eclipse, temperature doesn't seem to significantly alter celestial positions, they're the same at different latitudes. Moreover the deflection agrees with theory to 3 significant figures-you don't get something like that by accident, especially when it was also shown to produce the anomalous precession of mercury.
|
| 604 |
+
>Also how in the fuck, does this experiment prove black holes
|
| 605 |
+
It doesn't, but it supports GR which you seem to have a problem with.
|
| 606 |
+
Just because you deny these results doesn't mean they don't exist. This isn't "scientism", you're just being dishonest.
|
| 607 |
+
--- 15392462
|
| 608 |
+
>>15392424
|
| 609 |
+
>It is not under relativity.
|
| 610 |
+
Wrong, lightspeed is invariant for all INERTIAL observers, but an outside observer would see light slow down in a gravitational field.
|
| 611 |
+
--- 15392464
|
| 612 |
+
>>15392413
|
| 613 |
+
>>R makes tons of real quantitative predictions about orbits, redshift, lensing, time dilation etc
|
| 614 |
+
>No.
|
| 615 |
+
Not an argument. Reality doesn't change just because you want to cherry pick your arguments.
|
| 616 |
+
|
| 617 |
+
>Eddington experiment:
|
| 618 |
+
>Without taking into account:
|
| 619 |
+
>atmospheric distortion
|
| 620 |
+
Eddington's original paper explicitly states they corrected for refraction. At least pretend to do you research before you write this nonsense.
|
| 621 |
+
>temperature chance during an eclipse
|
| 622 |
+
"Look at how quickly the surface cools down when the solar illumination is removed,"
|
| 623 |
+
In fucking space. Irrelevant.
|
| 624 |
+
And once more, Eddington did consider a changes in temperature.
|
| 625 |
+
|
| 626 |
+
Also note that ignorantly attacking the original experiment proves nothing. It has been replicated with hundreds of times greater precision, in space and on the ground with many different types of instrument. And gravitational lensing is ubiquitous in deep observations from telescopes.
|
| 627 |
+
--- 15392465
|
| 628 |
+
>>15392419
|
| 629 |
+
>Nope, in SI the meter is defined by the speed of light
|
| 630 |
+
|
| 631 |
+
After the metre was invented you retard.
|
| 632 |
+
You have to define a meter first to say:
|
| 633 |
+
>light travels 299792458 m/s
|
| 634 |
+
|
| 635 |
+
And only then you can define a metre as:
|
| 636 |
+
>one metre is: 1/299792458 of the distance light travels.
|
| 637 |
+
Which happened 1983.
|
| 638 |
+
|
| 639 |
+
>And a tape measure changes with temperature.
|
| 640 |
+
Negligent.
|
| 641 |
+
> Nope, you use the time of flight.
|
| 642 |
+
This is also accurate, but there are several tecniques available, which are suitable for each job.
|
| 643 |
+
But yes.
|
| 644 |
+
These exist aswell but are not that accurate at short ranges because light is pretty fast.
|
| 645 |
+
|
| 646 |
+
And still, you have to control for ambient temperature, humidity and background illumination and surface color.
|
| 647 |
+
Thats why you have to calibrate it, or it has inbuilt calibrations.
|
| 648 |
+
Thats why lasers have a "operation temperature and humidity".
|
| 649 |
+
|
| 650 |
+
But still it is a indirect measurement.
|
| 651 |
+
All "reflection" based measurements such as radar are indirect.
|
| 652 |
+
Because direct would be one distance and no calculation.
|
| 653 |
+
Just have an object with measuring indications in whatever unit, hold it against said object, measure it.
|
| 654 |
+
|
| 655 |
+
As soon as you have to calculate two distances, substract distrotion or require to use the phytagorean thoerem it is considered indirect.
|
| 656 |
+
|
| 657 |
+
TL;DR
|
| 658 |
+
> 'Direct measurement' refers to measuring exactly the thing that you are looking to measure, while 'indirect measurement' means that you're measuring something by measuring something else such as time difference of a reflection.
|
| 659 |
+
--- 15392468
|
| 660 |
+
>>15392462
|
| 661 |
+
>Wrong, lightspeed is invariant for all INERTIAL observers, but an outside observer would see light slow down in a gravitational field.
|
| 662 |
+
Because of time dilation and the Einstein delay, not because the speed of light changes.
|
| 663 |
+
--- 15392470
|
| 664 |
+
>>15392447
|
| 665 |
+
>temperature doesn't seem to significantly alter celestial positions,
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Why then exists something like astronomical "seeing condition" which literally take into account:
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>ambient temperature, humidity and atmospheric temperature fluctuations (atmospheric turbulence)
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>>15392465
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>After the metre was invented you retard.
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>You have to define a meter first to say:
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>light travels 299792458 m/s
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But that's not how it's defined in SI. SI says the meter is how far light travels in X oscillations of an atomic clock. That defines the meter and sets the speed of light to a fixed value. Don't need to have a prior definition of a meter.
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>And a tape measure changes with temperature.
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>Negligent.
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But you thought having to correct for humidity was a big "gotcha", but suddenly you don't like to acknowledge that the tape measure is not direct. It is a means of indirectly applying some calibration to something else. It is not direct.
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>And still, you have to control for ambient temperature, humidity and background illumination and surface color.
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Nope. Time of flight isn't sensitive to the later two. And also the method you object to is radar in space. No humidity, temperature is irrelevant.
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>>15392470
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Yes, but it's nothing that our models can't account for.
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>>15392470
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Seeing degrades the resolution of an observation by blurring images, it doesn't move things around.
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>>15392480
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>models
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So it's made up phatasy. Still.
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>>15385884
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Does a before and after the lensing image exist?
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Because you can only know if this is "lensing" if you know that this object is in fact not just shaped that way.
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Because this image is LRG 3-757 Cosmic Horseshoe - Gravitational Lens.
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Which is allegedly 11 Billion Light Years away.
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>>15392487
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>>15392464
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Your 'refraction' will never consistently produce the 3 sig. figs. Not to mention the experiment was replicated in 2 different locations in Australia and California, and modern result using radiowaves renders your argument moot. It seems you just assume GR to be wrong a priori and deny any evidence, maybe you're the one living in fantasy.
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>>15392503
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The model of gravitational lensing has already been demonstrated beyond doubt. In pic related a quadruple lensed supernova was detected in a galaxy, the images were synced to a few hours.
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Note that it this was a real object with 4 different supernovae which just happened to coincide, the chance of us observing it from exactly the right angle to see them in sync is improbably small.
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But the test went further still lensing models predicted the supernova would reappear in another image of the same galaxy, about a year later.
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>>15392518
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>>15392503
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Pic related shows the fifth appearance of the supernova. The timing and location was predicted by the lensing models before it was seen. If this is not lensing and these are different galaxies there is no sensible way to explain predicting a supernova. But they are not different galaxies, they are multiple images of the same object.
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What we see is gravitational lensing
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what is it about black holes that makes them the number one most popular popsci topic of discussion amongst the brainlet soience fangoys?
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is it the comic bookish aspects of the spectacular, unrealistic and completely non disprovable conjectures which go along with the topic that make black holes so popular amongst the scientist posers and wannabes?
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>>15392521
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>>15392518
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>The image shows the galaxy's location within a hefty cluster of galaxies called MACS J1149.6+2223, located more than 5 billion light-years away.
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It appears you do not understand my problem.
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How do you prove it is gravitational lensing?
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How can you absolutely exclude that this shit is :
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>lensed
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>and for sure not "morphs" by itsself?
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>that it is indeed 5 billion light-years away?
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How can you prove it.
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You show images and use the buzzword "gravitational lensing" as if it is factual and proven already.
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This is ridiculous.
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It's made up shit.
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How in the fuck can a light travel that far and still be detectable?
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It's Ignoring all the space debris, dust and inverse square law of light,2 how bright has the galaxy to be to be observable at a distance of 5 billion light years?
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>>15392530
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What's the deal with /sci/tards thinking they've dismantled a century of physics by reading some shitty popsci articles? Is it the ignorance, denial and illusion of understanding which makes this so popular amongst crackpots and pseuds?
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>>15392551
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Gravitational lensing is the deflection of light from a straight trajectory due to gravity, this is QUANTITATIVELY modeled by GR. It has been verified for over a century, just because you don't understand it doesn't make it 'ridiculous' or a 'buzzword'.
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>>15392559
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>>15392557
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Idol worshipping fan boys of so.yence.
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A model is not a proof.
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A image is not a proof but subject to interpretation.
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Interpretation is not proof.
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A model is not proof.
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Space science is a opaque money laundry for tax money.
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>bruh you are insignificant
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>trust us
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>buzzwords
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>and models based on thought experiments based on models based on memes with hypothetical premises
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>wooooah the black hole
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>the moooodels which are not verifyable but predict that if we use the model as premise for our calculations, that the model is verifies
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>woooah how scientific to use a model to verify the same model
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>trust us billion light years away. trust us, you are insignificant and we are onmipotent science gods
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>>15392551
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>How do you prove it is gravitational lensing?
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Nothing is ever proven in empirical science. That's a false standard. What has been demonstrated is that the specifics predictions of this being lensing have been wildly successful. Any other model put forward cannot explain this. How else do you sensibly explain this?
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>How can you absolutely exclude that this shit is :
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>lensed
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>and for sure not "morphs" by itsself?
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>that it is indeed 5 billion light-years away?
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None of that matters to this test. What matters is that the model predicted the future and was correct.
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>It's Ignoring all the space debris, dust and inverse square law of light,2 how bright has the galaxy to be to be observable at a distance of 5 billion light years?
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Again, none of that matters to this test. You're attacking the edge of this without engaging with the key facts, the predicted supernova.
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>>15392559
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>Gravitational lensing is the deflection of light from a straight trajectory due to gravity, this is QUANTITATIVELY modeled by GR
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These images are taken by the hubble telescope which moves relative to us 17,000 miles per hour.
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While it is locked in our heliosphere.
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While the sun is traveling 450,000 miles per hour through the Milkeyway.
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While the sun is dragged within the milkyway which moves with 1.3 million miles per hour though the universe.
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While the sun is also dragged within the spin of the milkeyway with a whooping speed of 560,000 mph.
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And while all these motions happen we apperently can make """"accurate"""" interpretations based on models of luminaries which are 5+ billion light-years away.
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Really?
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>>15392578
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Nobody tell them.
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>>15392569
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>being lensing have been wildly successful
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Successful for what?
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>Any other model put forward cannot explain this.
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So you rather BELIEVE in a retarded model rather than say: "we simply currently cannot know what this shit is".
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>please daddy I need explaination I am afraid of the unknown
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>please give explaination, otherwise I believe in retarded made up shit unless I get a alternative explaination
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>>15392578
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>And while all these motions happen we apperently can make """"accurate"""" interpretations based on models of luminaries which are 5+ billion light-years away.
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Why don't you work out the change in angle over a year if the distance is 5 Gly. Then you will see why it doesn't matter.
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>Really?
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The fact that it was correctly predicted is a historical fact. If you cannot believe it then it is your imagination at fault, not the observation.
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>>15392565
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Do you even understand what a model is? A model is a mathematical system which makes numerical predictions that are tested. As mentioned before, gravitationally lensing was first verified to 3 sig. figs in 1919, but modern techniques using radio waves have verified it to within 0.03% of GR predictions. No amount of autistic greentext will change this.
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>>15392592
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Here's the radiowave measurements: arxiv.org/pdf/0904.3992.pdf
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>>15392580
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>Successful for what?
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Predicting the future:
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>>15392518
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>>15392521
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>>Any other model put forward cannot explain this.
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>So you rather BELIEVE in a retarded model rather than say: "we simply currently cannot know what this shit is".
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Waving your hands and saying "we cannot know" does not explain how the lensing model got it correct. That's just bullshit.
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>please daddy I need explaination I am afraid of the unknown
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But we do have an explanation, gravitational lensing.
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>>15392589
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>Why don't you work out the change in angle over a year if the distance is 5 Gly. Then you will see why it doesn't matter.
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wait a second...
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If the change in angle does not matter over a year....
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How then does the change in angle matter within "paralax" calculations, which are taken 6 months apart ?
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>>15392601
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>Waving your hands and saying "we cannot know" does not explain how the lensing model got it correct.
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got what correct.
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Please put forward the exact claim and prediction.
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And the exact result on observation.
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Give sauce.
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>>15392603
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Because that's works for objects a million times closer.
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>>15392609
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>got what correct.
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>Please put forward the exact claim and prediction.
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>>15392518
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>>15392521
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It's literally linked in the same post, again. Lensing predicted the reappearance of supernova Refsdal, in another image of the same galaxy. The models predicted when and where it would be seen.
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>>15392619
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please post link to the prediction. not the fucking retarded images.
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>>15392639
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https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.05750
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>>15392639
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Can't you do a fucking google search?
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>>15392659
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>>15392657
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Phantasy football league chatter.
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They used 7 different Models.
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Not one SEVEN.
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Then they cherry picked those variable from those 7 models and also 429 redshift spectroscopies.
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"The spread between the different model predictions gives us an idea of the so-called model uncertainties, even though unfortunately they cannot be considered an exact measurement. The spread could be exaggerated by inappropriate assumptions in some of the models, or underestimated if common assumptions are unjustified."
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Then they adjusted for various """"statistical uncertainties"""":
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"Finally, one more parameter that is fixed, but plays an important role in the χ2 computation, is the positional uncertainty of the multiple images. Indeed, it will affect the derivation of errors, i.e. a smaller positional uncertainty will generally result in a smaller statistical uncertainty, thus leading to an underestimation of the statistical error budget."
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While also giving themselves an error margin of 200kpc so a """"miscalculation of 652313 Lightyears"""".
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You know this sounds really like bullshit.
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I suspect the following:
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>they have some ancient ass astronomy
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>which tells them when which object appears
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>and they make up shit, and publish extremly boring obfuscated data, which nobody including you will never read
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>and then pretend it is a prediction of something
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OR
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>it's all made up to funnel taxpayer money away
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>and this is a justification for funding, because it has no real world value to know the appearance of an 5 billion light-years distant object
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Which is also what they stating.
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This shit is absolute meaningless.
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EVEN if it were real.
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I don't even know why I tortured myself with this retarded shit.
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It's so retarded it's beyond understanding and value for resources.
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The earth is flat with a dome. Nobody is funding it because they can not leave this plane alive ever. And neither can you scienceboi.
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https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/NASA---Going-Nowhere-Since-1958-(Full-Documentary):4
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>>15385472 (OP)
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some people are funding the marketing which still costs millions in shilling, the real cost is too high, like hundreds of billions
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>>15389963
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you think it's also a big gun?
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Personally, I'd rather use the sun as a telescope
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFqDKRAROI [Embed]
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>>15385472 (OP)
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Spacefag here, maybe Starshot doesn't get enough push is because the pedo elites know something, like space is fake and gay or something
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>>15391085
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double kek
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>>15386735
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They will.
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"The Starshot concept envisions launching a "mothership" carrying about a thousand tiny spacecraft (on the scale of centimeters) to a high-altitude Earth orbit for deployment. A phased array of ground-based lasers would then focus a light beam on the crafts' sails to accelerate them one by one to the target speed within 10 minutes, with an average acceleration on the order of 100 km/s2 (10,000 ɡ), and an illumination energy on the order of 1 TJ delivered to each sail. A preliminary sail model is suggested to have a surface area of 4 m × 4 m."- Wikipedia
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>>15389331
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100GW combined (non pulsed)
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I wonder what they think regarding pulsed lasers... Probably the materials wouldn't withstand it, but that is a problem because most of our current laser tech is pulsed.
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It would be interesting, could we just use that.
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Let us estimate current laser capacity of pulsed lasers:
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Example laser: Orion
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Capacity: Petawatts
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Pulse-time: 1ps
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Let us assume it can do this pulse two times in the 10 minutes.
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1PW*1ps=1000J (ok this is worse than I thought...)
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2000J/10min=3.3W (Did I make a mistake somewhere or are we really building industrial facilities with continous power usages on the order of Watts?)
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>>15385472 (OP)
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>in 20 years
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Assuming they accelerate to like 20% lightspeed, don't miss their target, don't evaporate in the solar winds etc.
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>>15389331
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deploying the sail close enough to the sun could theoretically get you a good head start on that acceleration.
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>>15392680
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>only 10 minutes of acceleration each
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you FUCKING WHAT
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6 hours of acceleration could get them to 80% the speed of light, they could have their messages back in like 10 years instead of 24
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and obviously that LaSeR aRrAy could very well be 10x the size to bring that 6 hours back down to 36 minutes
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Probably better to work on planet detection technology first, right?
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Is "invert" the correct term?
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>>15389375
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Is "invert" the correct term?
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--- 15390427
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>>15389822
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2 x 2 = 4
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-2 x 2 = -4
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this is true if you take it what the language suggest
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"negative two times two"
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but the problem is these two
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2 x -2
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| 404 |
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-2 x -2
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| 405 |
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"two (or negative two) multiplied negative -2 times"
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| 406 |
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the thing is that you need to find what these 2 are when taken to be +1 times like:
|
| 407 |
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(2 x -2)1
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| 408 |
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(-2 x -2)1
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| 409 |
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or you could also take the first to be the same as 4 x -1, and as the left hand rises while the right hand decreases, it cannot be -4 if you keep decreasing the right side towards 1 because the left hand rises
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Does this make sense?
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>>15389070
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I mean they form a monoid, so like a monoid ring?
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--- 15391622
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>>15389082
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N is not a field retard
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--- 15391660
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it doesn't make sense
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then again
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neither does math
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do you have a point
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--- 15391861
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>>15391622
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then under this classification it's a ring and you want 'Module' >>15389106
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this is still subjective bs though. field is fine.
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>>15389123
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integers are the smallest ring which include the natural numbers. did you even read those links you responded to or just dunning-kreuger cargo cult yourself a chatgpt2-tier response for some dopamine
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>>15391861
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>dunning-kreuger cargo cult yourself a chatgpt2-tier response for some dopamine
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| 433 |
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Can you blame him? This is 4chan, after all.
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| 434 |
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--- 15391863
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>>15391862
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/sci/ should be better than mean/median 4chan imo
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--- 15391865
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>>15391861
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>integers are the smallest ring which include the natural numbers.
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| 440 |
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If the natural numbers were a ring like you've been claiming, they would be the smallest such ring, mongoloid
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--- 15391870
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>>15391865
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>I can't debate logically so I'll resort to racism
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| 444 |
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>'mongoloid' is the most creative i can conjure up
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| 445 |
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indeed /sci/ should be better, on both counts
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| 446 |
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--- 15391874
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| 447 |
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>Natural numbers are a field
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| 448 |
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>no they aren't
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| 449 |
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>Natural numbers are a ring
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| 450 |
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>no they aren't
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| 451 |
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>Well, moron, they're part of a ring, which is basically the same thing
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| 452 |
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yeah you're doing good debates too buddy
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| 453 |
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--- 15391888
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>>15391865
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| 455 |
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>smallest
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| 456 |
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This term alone shows you cant math (picrel). Give your texts to goodwill
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| 458 |
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>>15391870
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>better, on both counts
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| 460 |
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But /sci/ has never been that creative with its racism, you're thinking of /pol/.
|
| 461 |
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--- 15391889
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| 462 |
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>>15386022 (OP)
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| 463 |
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The negative negates the other negative, you dumbass. It's fucking simple.
|
| 464 |
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--- 15391891
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>>15391874
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>you're doing good debates
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| 467 |
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mutt, you are arguing with like 10 anons at once; while at least one is probably of Mongol ancestry, you can't hit us all with one slur.
|
| 468 |
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--- 15391895
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| 469 |
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>>15391888
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>This term alone shows you cant math
|
| 471 |
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I'm just parroting the terminology
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| 472 |
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>>15391861
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| 473 |
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>integers are the smallest ring which include the natural numbers
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| 474 |
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there's a bijection between your sets, sure, but one is a valid substructure for a ring and one isn't. Next you'll be talking about how the integers actually ARE a field because there's a bijection between them and the rationals
|
| 475 |
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The absolute state of /sci/, jesus fuck
|
| 476 |
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--- 15391945
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| 477 |
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>>15386022 (OP)
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let's put it this way:
|
| 479 |
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assume - in any number means "owes" and positive would mean "is owed"
|
| 480 |
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so -1 would mean "owes 1"
|
| 481 |
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for example: 1 + -1 means "has 1, owes 1", and, in the end, the subject ends up having 0
|
| 482 |
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|
| 483 |
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in what follows, assume the second number means "by people" when negative and "to people" when positive.
|
| 484 |
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now, -1 * 2 could be translated into "owes 1 to 2 people"
|
| 485 |
+
how would you interpret -1 * -2 ? "is owed 1 by 2 people" maybe? well, at the end, the subject would have... how many?
|
| 486 |
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--- 15391956
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| 487 |
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>>15391945
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| 488 |
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How about if you owe 5 -2 times
|
| 489 |
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--- 15391981
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| 490 |
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>>15386042
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>>15386083
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| 492 |
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Only elegant answer
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--- 15392054
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| 494 |
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>>15388961
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| 495 |
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https://youtu.be/rK4sXm_MPWo [Embed]
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| 496 |
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--- 15392108
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>>15386022 (OP)
|
| 498 |
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negative numbers are a human construct, they don't exist in the real world. They can do anything we want them to.
|
| 499 |
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--- 15392128
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| 500 |
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>>15390427
|
| 501 |
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You see, it's a different thing to multiply a negative number by a positive number and by a negative.
|
| 502 |
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We accept the premise that -2 × 2 is equal to -4, because we understand it, because the equation is straightforward. We are increasing the negativity of the number, and the number.
|
| 503 |
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|
| 504 |
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However multiplying the -2 by a -2 is equal to 4, because the -2 is increased by value of 2, however we did NOT INCREASE THE NEGATIVITY of the number, because of the presence of the negative sign.
|
| 505 |
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| 506 |
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It's like I am increasing a debt of 2 dollars to 4 dollars.
|
| 507 |
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But with multiplying a dept of 2 dollars with negative 2 dollars, means that I am removing your debt and as negative 2 dollars means I'm giving extra money to you instead of taking it away. It's a controversial logic so becareful when we ask someone who have debts with us, we don't say you "owe me negative $200" (that's like the opposite of $200).
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| 509 |
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The interesting thing about "owe me negative $200" it's a double negative, which basically means, the opposite, "you give me $200".
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+
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| 511 |
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It's like "I don't don't love you" which basically means "I love you".
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| 512 |
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Basically my take is that, the result have to be different because of the result from -2 × 2. It's gonna be strange if the equation -2 × -2 arrive to the same answer, that's like a mathematical non-logic. It's out of place if the results of both equation to be the same.
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--- 15392138
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>>15388950
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| 515 |
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NTA, but YEAH. That's what I said too!
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| 516 |
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--- 15392342
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| 517 |
+
It's like, positive numbers represent different things in the real world, and negative numbers are just a fancy way of removing things. Positive numbers either audit or add to an amount, negative numbers only represent the intent to remove or negate real things. It's like I'm going to rob you and I let you know that I'm adding a negative amount of dollars to your wallet. Pretty much academia is fucking stupid.
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--- 15392372
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>>15386022 (OP)
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To take away the feeling of not experiencing an addition to one's life, one must give something beyond just a feeling.
|
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--- 15392567
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>>15391861
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It's not a ring, there aren't additive inverses. N does not include -1.
|
| 524 |
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Holy shit you failed Algebra so hard it wasn't even close. The only thing the Natural numbers
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| 525 |
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(assuming 0) form by themselves is a monoid. They do not form a ring, nor do they fucking form a field. They DO NOT have multiplicative inverses for any elements except one. They are still a monoid in multiplication by the way.
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--- 15392649
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>>15386022 (OP)
|
| 528 |
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Explain yourselves, /sci/. What the fuck is this?
|
| 529 |
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--- 15392652
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| 530 |
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>>15392649
|
| 531 |
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Oh no we're famous
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| 532 |
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--- 15392661
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| 533 |
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>>15386037
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| 534 |
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...smart reply.
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| 536 |
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Are u single
|
| 537 |
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| 538 |
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>>15388976
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| 539 |
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that's still just made up language you goofball
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| 107 |
what did he mean by this?
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what did he mean by this?
|
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--- 15391238
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>>15387388
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>>15387417
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This is the first time a climate scientist has ever encountered physics, and they have no answer for it.
|
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--- 15391304
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>>15386433
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2.7ºK comes from the cosmic background radiation. The calculation which results in the 255ºK number starts from 0ºK, but we don't live in a 0ºK universe, we live in a 2.7ºK universe.
|
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--- 15391357
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>>15391304
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There is also the unaccounted for sunlight which falls on the annulus of atmosphere that isn't directly between the sun and the earth.
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The "caclulate the surface temperature of a planet using the Stephan-Bolzmann equation and basic geometry" problem is freshman level astronomy, covered early in the first month of the first semester, it is by no means authoritative, it is only a simple rough estimate. Albedo conditions on Earth change day by day and hourly as well as seasonally, solar output also varies. There is no one fixed number for the baseline temp of the planet, the Stephan-Bolzmann equation itself is inaccurate, it was derived on the presumption of a static universe with a baseline temp of 0ºK, which we now know not to be the case.
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--- 15391410
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>>15386239
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>And everybody believes it anyway
|
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| 123 |
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Humans are not rational creatures.
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Most humans are near wholly controlled by 'authority' or 'group opinion'.
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--- 15391733
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>>15391304
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The CBMR has never been measured away from earth. It is water. Cosmology is a joke.
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--- 15392474
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>>15391357
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>There is also the unaccounted for sunlight which falls on the annulus of atmosphere that isn't directly between the sun and the earth.
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that would increase effctive surface area by 0.5%, which would in turn account for more of the 33º than co2 supposedly does.
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| 133 |
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if global warming were a real problem then cities could just paint all their blacktopped areas white to fix it, that would fix a lot of urban heat bubble issues too. also landscaped roofs are good, i have that on my home, i had spinach and kale from my roof for dinner tonight. saves moneyon air conditioning too
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>>15389132
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Just good enough to do physical labor? How far away is that?
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Just good enough to do physical labor? How far away is that?
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NTA. very very far. locomotion and object manipulation are very hard tasks. making robot to be able to reliable and safely act in the environment and with humans are still frigging science fiction. there's a reason why openAI dropped their entire robotics research division and went for the NLP route. robotics is still impossible while making chat box that only have text input and output is relatively easy.
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Very far? It looks to me like the pieces are all there.
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>computing is NOT an electronic phenomenon
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>mechanical system
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idiot, AI and Deep learning relies on electric circuit OPERATING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUCH FASTER THAN HUMAN BRAINS AND INFINITELY MORE SCALABLE AND MODULAR
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you are retarded your point is retarded and i'm not arguing for your point
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increase your reading comprehension please please please please so that you do not become a burden to other people
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see Covariant AI. Pieter Abbeel is the top guy in the field and that's his startup. all those years and all they ever managed is a lame ass recyclable sorting robot that is not even reliable in a semi-controlled environment.
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Deep learning should be able to train a bipedal robot fine motor skills close enough to a human. I don't understand we can send men to the Moon but this is impossible?
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>consciousness = behavior
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Midwit.
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I don't think deep learning is the key to do robotics. the current paradigm itself is flawed and deep learning doesn't help, only adding bell and whistle to an unsolved problem.
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Explain. I get its 'very hard' but what do you believe the specific limitations are?
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muh soience fiction fantasy life that was fed into my brain by comic books and televisions
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Incorrect. You have only proven that you do not understand computing. It could be punch cards running that algorithm faggot. You unironically believe in ghosts without the benefit of virgin wives. Just neck.
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>C:\
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All you need to know to know that it's fuck ware
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ML doesn't think at all. There is no intelligence. It is the quintessential NPC.
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>SOMEONE CALL THE ASYLUM AND GET THIS DANGEROUS PSYCHO LOCKED UP.
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you can't just call me a schizo, you have to point out exactly what in my post makes me one
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lock em up
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>traffic blocking
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ohh noes
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HOW DARE THEY BLOCK MUH PRECIOUS TRAFFIC?!
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Meanwhile Paki rape gangs get community service.
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we get some really stupid protesters in australia, it's happened a couple of times in my city in the last few years. Picrel is probably one of the funniest, she propped herself up on this weird wooden tripod thing right over the busiest expressway leading into the city at peak hour blocking likely thousands of cars. She blocked traffic for more than 2 hours, which probably released more carbon than a months worth of regular peak hour traffic. Some other protesters were lying down on another really busy road and were blocking ambulances etc. So retarded
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https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/major-traffic-delays-as-protester-suspends-herself-in-the-air-blocking-brisbane-main-roads-into-city/news-story/f629aeb620a7ecb21c68d51802019c56
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what's that car thing from ? I feel like i remember that from somewhere
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Why are these environmental protestors always white?
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Be honest, when do you ever see Blacks, Indians, Arabs, or Asians protesting like this?
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Blacks etc. can handle extreme global warming. Whites will simply blurst into flames
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Ecofacism is the Whitest idealogy in human history.
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Democracy is action. She voted for this.
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there is no right or left
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there is right and wrong
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there is no right or left
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there is right and wrong
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Machine learning could probably figure it out
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Politics cannot be reduced to a single Axis. Left vs right is complete bullshit.
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right, but it would be immediately compromised and cuck'd by whomever was running it
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Essentialism vs. Constructivism
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Nah they are for anyone who wants to play them. Reproduction is for women. Plenty of guys out there willing to create single mothers. My life is about me. I'm not needed in the reproduction circuit and that's great because I also have better things to do with my time.
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Like playing video games.
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Nah they are for anyone who wants to play them. Reproduction is for women. Plenty of guys out there willing to create single mothers. My life is about me. I'm not needed in the reproduction circuit and that's great because I also have better things to do with my time.
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Like playing video games.
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>>15389873
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What it like being an overaged baby? You must be ashamed of yourself behaving like a child during your adult years, isn't that unpleasant?
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>>15391662
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Raising children is women's work. I enjoy the wilderness and have many other hobbies which I enjoy. There is nothing for me in relationships. Furthermore there is no place in the future for straight white males like me. The future belongs to the faggots. If I have children they won't fit into this degenerate society either. What's the point of that. Some genetics just don't belong in the future because the future is full of female supremacism and faggotry. Are you trying to convince me to have kids so you and the other pedo satanists can prey on them? Fuck all of that bullshit. I'm simply going to enjoy the time I have been given as best I can. Thankfully I am capable of independent thought and can resist the social programming which forces most men into lives of servitude and misery.
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>>15386582 (OP)
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If you're talking about ferrets, it looks like the effects of not reproducing are death. You're not talking about ferrets, are you?
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>>15386719
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>obligation
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>duty
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>debt
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Crivens anon, no one owes no one anything. The Universe just happens and no one shall be missed. Good day sir.
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Technology is at the point where artificial wombs are a near term possibility. Iterated embryo selection and genetic screening are already technically feasible. Artificial gametogenesis could synthesize sperm and eggs, leading to gays reproducing via test tube babies.
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Besides all of that, we're soon at the point where superintelligence can arise. Possibly in the next decade or so. After that who even knows. Shit is getting crazy.
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The only inevitable result is natural selection.
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>>15391662
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Women aren't allowed here
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>>15388532
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So the only way you could care about someone else is having a child?
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What about caring about homless people, or, I don't know, orphan children?
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>>15388536
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Every person won’t have a single child
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>>15391939
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>cumbersome unnatural IVF that most people are repelled by
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>autistic AGI "two more weeks" cope
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you ok bud?
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>>15392115
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I'll be kind and assume your inability to observe the most obvious of trends is due to willful ignorance rather than incurable stupidity.
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>>15392058
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>i'm holier than thou because i can't breed
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nice cope
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you're parents were able to breed, how come you're unable to?
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>>15392495
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Unable or unwilling. NTA but I wouldn't have children in this society. It's not a positive environment. Parenthood is for less considerate people.
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>>15386582 (OP)
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>keeping the species going
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This is not a task which merits applause.
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>>15386941 (OP)
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According to some studies smarter people have bigger neurons that transmit impulses faster, I dont think its possible to make your neural impulses move faster than your myelin shealth genetics would dictate so your completely screwed unless you can expand your neural volume but that would require getting rid of your skull first. There are mechanical ways to make you smarter but if you like being hacked into hell be my guess.
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>>15386941 (OP)
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According to some studies smarter people have bigger neurons that transmit impulses faster, I dont think its possible to make your neural impulses move faster than your myelin shealth genetics would dictate so your completely screwed unless you can expand your neural volume but that would require getting rid of your skull first. There are mechanical ways to make you smarter but if you like being hacked into hell be my guess.
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>>15388872
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This is so hard
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>>15386941 (OP)
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>I just want to be able to learn faster
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i guess you also want it to be an easier experience.
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bottom line impossible, learning curves takes time some days you advance well some days you struggle in the process, it has much more elements of commitment than anything else, the stubborn always wins in this game.
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Read The Sequences
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>>15386941 (OP)
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We need plenty of retarded people to do manual labor, just join them
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>>15386941 (OP)
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Learn from failure
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Try something new, get out of your comfort zone, always seek a challenge. Don't get angry when you mess up. Be around individuals you considered smart, learn how they tackle certain problems or situations, etc.
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>>15390519
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With the advent of AI, retarded people doing manual labour are the only type of people we need.
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>>15390508
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is this fr? People meme the shit out of Eliezer et al.
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>>15387918
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>get addicted to coffee
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no thanks
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You're an idiot if you believe that popsci bullshit anyways. Your brain is completely "developed" by the time you are a child. I will never understand you and every other IFLS redditor think it would just stop changing at the arbitrary age of 25.
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>>15390980
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>stop changing at the arbitrary age of 25
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so your brain can't learn a single new thing after this age, is that what you believe?
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>>15390991
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No, but every popsci redditor does because they saw an article linked on reddit that said it does
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>>15391001
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yeh i totally misread your shit, tired.
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im done for today see yu in hell lads
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And this is downplayed a lot.
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See Mad Hatter disease.
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It causes lesions, and turns people retarded and deperessed and psychotic.
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And this is downplayed a lot.
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See Mad Hatter disease.
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It causes lesions, and turns people retarded and deperessed and psychotic.
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>>15389506
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Bingo. Also what is acute and what is chronic form.
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