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>The first episode of Victory Gundam was shown on April 2nd, 1993
30th Anniversary V Gundam thread!
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USO BEST BOY
>It wasn't even celebrated on Gundam official social medias
man.
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>>21610754 (OP)
Are we getting anything from Bandai for the anniversary?
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>>21610754 (OP)
Ugliest Gundam protagonist with the smallest dick. Hair like one of those medieval monk nerds. Bug eyes and bowl cut protruding. Very very disrespectful.
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>>21610757
Canon micropenis.
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>>21610770
Ugly fucking monkey holy shit
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>>21610757
Unironically
I was designing a character for a work i'm doing. Mecha related. But in the end, I just made a slightly different Uso clone. It wasn't on purpose, I just like the character so much I did it instinctively.
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Is it true the design for victory gundam were made a bit simpler so that kids can draw them more easily?
which is a bit ironic considering how dark the show gets
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>>21610754 (OP)
WINNERS FOREVER
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>>21610758
if we believe really really hard it might get 1 (one) short mention and maaaybe a reprint of some Victory kits but I wouldn't count on it
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>>21610765
>>21610779
Wieners forever
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I hope Tomino talks shit about it again.
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>received pic related today
just in time
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>>21610782
I don't think Tomino really dislike Victory, it's more it reflects the state of mind he was back then, and he changed since.
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>>21610786
>I don't think Tomino really dislike Victory, it's more it reflects the state of mind he was back then
His state of mind and Banrise's pressure directly affected the show, so...

>and he changed since.
I doubt lighthearted Tomino would look back fondly on an overly grim work of his.
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>>21610790
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>>21610791
He probably would rewrite it, just like A new translation, or even the alternate ending he gave Quess and Hathaway in Gundam Evolve (Quess survives and leave with Hathaway)
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>>21610779
>>21610781
Wieners Foh-ebba
https://youtu.be/LCc1khUVeEs [Embed]
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>>21610776
In general thats good design though. If elementary schooler cannot draw your mech then it is overdesigned.
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>>21610791
>His state of mind and Banrise's pressure directly affected the show, so...
And even withTomino trying to sabotage it at every step it is the best damn gundam entry.
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>>21610801
>all these cute tomboys
>killed off for absolutely no reason
Hate it
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Thoughts on the Walpurgis manga heavily implying Paptimus came up with the Angel Halo but didn't build it because the tech wasn't there at the time?
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>>21610818
Tomino wouldn't appreciate you saying that...
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>that level in the G-saviour game when CONSENT made a factory in the ruin of Angel Halo still on Earth 70 years later.
>the haunting music https://youtu.be/BIi0Z-K5Ptg [Embed]
>the characters saying they feels like the place is haunted

Wonder why they never removed them though.
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>>21610831
I have a theory that they recycled the Angel Halo's gold parts into making this
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>>21610850
Shakti doesn't deserve the hat she gets....
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>>21610850
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>>21610850
So between Lalah and her, I have to ask, does Indian girls have a newtypes booster or something?
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>>21610850
>>21610854
I can't believe they managed to make an Indian girl look cute. Lalah Sune was a more accurate portrayal of Pajeeta ugliness. Is it because Shakti's half white?
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>>21610861
I think Tomino just really like dark skinned girls
pretty based imo
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>>21610867
Then why Pajeetas? Arabs or Brazilians are cuter browns.
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>>21610869
>Brazilians are cuter browns
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>>21610867
I unironically think it's because Tomino sees that the world will have more dark people in the future, which probably will happen.
Victory has a LOT of characters of multiple origins including many dark skinned ones. but their full ethnicities are more blurred due to mixing.
Tomino don't really see races much in people, which is probably why Gaia Gear shows white supremacist in a very bad light.
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>>21610869
My bet? Tomino went on a family vacation to India while he was just reaching puberty.
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>>21610878
Why didn't they ever show Marbet's chocolate nipples? Kept teasing it but nothing in the end. It's not like other nipples weren't shown. Even a cock. But no nude Marbet. Feels bad man.
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We get it, Tomino. You like Kubrick.
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>>21610883
Imagine the smell
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>>21610800
Checked.
I really like those designs.
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>>21610790
>>21610822
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I wonder if Victory having so much death of named characters is the reasons for G, Wing and more especially X to not have much them (especially X, X barely have any death in general, none in the protagonist sides, and most of them are caused by the brothers betraying their allies)
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>>21610754 (OP)
Katejina loos was sexy
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>>21610929
>>21610825
>>21610814
Still funny she often the Victory represent in most other Gundam media
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>>21610844
>love all the Zanscare suits
>new models never ever 
Pain
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>>21610939
>reddit
I think it might be because Chronicle voice actor died back in 2012 I think. Notice how he wasn't added in Gundam versus.
speaking of him I really like the character, even if he is a bit of a loser. I like how he"s clearly not a bad person in the inside.
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>>21610939
Not surprising they use the Char of the show to represent it.
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Do you think Shakti will be able to fire healing psychic vagina beams when she grows up?
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>>21610995
ah... that's Katejina's colour...
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>>21610754 (OP)
Second best Gundam entry after Destiny, nough said.
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>>21610754 (OP)
Do you guys think victory gundam will see any new kits in the future?
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>>21611039
Maybe a RG V2 Assault Buster this year for the 30th Anniversary.
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I LOVE VICTORY
also posting my Javelin
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>>21610754 (OP)
>>21610761
cool art
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>>21610966
Chronicle is the most handsome redhead.
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>>21610971
>>21610973
Just how much of grenades are these kits?
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>>21611274
They're pretty bad. The elbow joints are c-clips for whatever reason so those will get loose fast. The hip joints have a locking clip that doesn't like to lock so you'll want to glue it if you don't care to transform them.
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>>21611284
I had thought I heard the V2 was a bit more solid overall but damn.
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>>21610758
Only thing announced so far is airing the show again on TV:

https://www.gundam.info/news/video-music/01_10937.html
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>>21610754 (OP)
Happy birthday Shinpachi-kun.
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>>21610821
He was a genius designer so I'm not necessarily surprised, but it just feels like they're pulling an Aeolia Schenberg.
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>>21610821
crossbone Ghost notes Zanscare's matriarchal philosophy is derived from Scirocco's ideals (or at least what people thought they were), so it's not that much of a stretch there's more connections
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>>21610843
interesting, tell me more
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>>21611285
god I wish 2nd V had a MG
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>>21610966
I find chronicle to be a very sad characters. even as he dies, he desperatly try to call his sister and he truly did believed in maria-ism, unlike others. But she reject him, thinking he's just like the other mens.
Him trying to follow a deranged Katejina probably didn't helped. 
In a cruel twist , he likely would have ended much better had he not saved Katejina, but he coudn't stand seeing someone abused this way.
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>>21610754 (OP)

One of my favorite titles in the franchise. I know it's the weird one, but it's epic in its own right. I wish it was seen by more fans.
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>>21610966

>not a bad person
>commands a fleet that literally runs over people's villages and homes with giant space wheels

But at least he's nice to girls, right guys?
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>>21610966
No, he absolutely is a bad person. He's that guy who convinced himself he's a good person despite being despicable and cruel, an ends justifies the means sort of person.

I'm pretty sure Shakti even calls him out on this near the end.
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>>21611798
>>21611815
Doesn't the show implies he slowly gets worse as the show progress due to Katejina's influence on him? It's being a while i've seeing Victory but I remember him avoiding to kill civilians
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>>21611822
Katejina absolutely drags him down but he is still responsible for the crimes he committed.
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>>21611822
Yeah, I remember how he helped Usso out in episode 2 when he got stuck to his mobile suit? After the surprise of a kid showing up, instead of retreating so he could safely leave Usso on the ground, he gets into a fucking fight with a kid in mid-air and losses.

Sounds like a stand-up guy to me.
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>>21610973
god the v2 is such a fuckin slick design, I love how much it pushes the limit of visual ridiculousness in mainline UC Gundams with that preposterous V but it still pulls it off somehow
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>>21610851
>Shakti doesn't deserve the hat she gets....
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>>21611930
I hate this pajeet so much
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so is the message of the show that toxic masculanity and toxic feminity are both very bad, and that we need to build a society outside of this for the future of the childrens?
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>>21611916
didn't Uso opened the door and try kicking the shit out of him? Then in the later episode at Uso's house, he's actually pretty cordial to him.
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>>21611992
He opened th3 door because he was about to fall to his death. While Usoo shows up pissed, Chronicle acts like a kid and shoves him, which then starts the fight.
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Posting the one image of Katoki all seem to hate
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>>21610754 (OP)
I loved Katejina and the Victory Gundam itself. Everything else about the show was hot garbage. Tomino must have been on hard drugs thinking it was a good idea having a child as the main character of the show. All the fucking kids were fucking annoying and pointless. Its like the annoying ZZ casts dialed up to 11.
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>>21612476
Good to know that Victory Gundam is filtering you from reproducing!
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>>21613443
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>>21611990
and that noble ideas can still get corrupted and coopted by others for their own benefits
and that life is temporary, it's up to you how you live it. You don't get to choose when it ends, but it's up to you whether it's a satisfying end.
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Why did that bitch Katejina get to live? Also they did Odelo dirty holy shit, he did not deserve to die right at the final stretch
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>>21614538
she got a fate worse than death having to live the rest of her life as the blind slut of Woowig
but yes Odelo's death was fucking pointless
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>>21610831
Wow that's fucking cool
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>>21613510
The amount of body parts Uso discarded for faints, defense and just straight yeeting at a target could create entire armies.
How did they manage to make so many parts, but not have enough pilots to just use them as full robots? Were the cores just that expensive to make?
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>>21615014
Victory Gundam was designed to be simple to build with modular construction because LM didn't technically hold any real ground on Earth and operated in the underground. Many of the parts were built in century or more old factories, some predating UC. That's compensated for by the core fighter part which holds all the computers, operating systems and the reactor. So yes, they could build many more leg and arm parts (particularly once the tide started turning and Federation started helping more openly) but core fighters were the bottleneck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INA1j4S9wSU [Embed]
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>>21615082
series peaked right there mang
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>>21610754 (OP)
>The first episode of Victory Gundam was shown on April 2nd, 1993
That was the third episode.
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>>21610869
A really good looking beats both
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Are we all in agreement that V looks better than the V2?
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>>21618218
GunEZ > V1 > Zanspine > V2
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>>21618218
You love the V2 more before you watch Victory. You love the Victory more after seeing the show.
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Victory had very good girls
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Loved the shokew wish it showed up more
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>>21618232
No cap? That's deadass me right there. Bought the HG V2 before watching Victory, came out the other end regretting I didn't get the V instead. Should get around to buying it one of these days.
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I'm trying to work on a fancut that starts on the 2nd episode based on the original vision from Tomino but can seem to get the transitions right because of the Shakti exposition scenes
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>>21618273
It got reissued a few months ago, now is the time.
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>>21618232
Once Uso gets in the V2 they reduce his throwing away of parts style of piloting, probably because they want the V2 to be seen as an indispensable hero unit.
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>>21618218
Oh definitely. This anon >>21618232 gets it.
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>>21618413
Not in Oliver's hands
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>>21610843
what is that?
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>>21619144
Oliver dies with just the core fighter exactly to leave Usso as unique.
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>>21622346
Sankt Porto. A holy ground from G-Reco's SU-Cordism religion. There's also tons of other gold stuff in G-Reco as well.
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>>21622534
Probably built out of the infinite gold reserves of Zeon.
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>>21610754 (OP)
Memes aside, there's something that really stands out to me about V Gundam, moreso than things like CCA or Zeta. Somehow to me it is one of the Tomino Gundam series that feels the most whole and beautiful short of the original, something about the dynamics of the cast and the tones of the setting combined with the choreography and music put it very close in my heart to 0079 as a favorite Gundam series. I remember it fondly- I need to rewatch it sometime.
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>>21625080
Music is definitely the strong part of the show. Cast interactions are one of the most important aspect of the gundam show for me, so V is easily one of the best on that alone.
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>>21611074
I want a modern HG of this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>21625102
Akira Senju is a genius. Victory's score is incredible
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Is there any explanation for why the V and V2 decided to do away with the panoramic monitors?
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>>21625232
They were bootleg models.
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>>21625232
It didn't make sense with the core fighter. They actually gave a fuck about that feature compated to the Zeta and ZZ.
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>>21625232
simplifies production
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>>21629662
Love how the core fighter part is the most weathered while the rest seems brand new, that's environmental storytelling at its finest
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>>21629656
Can't tell if CGI or actual miniature
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>>21625229
Yep. He also did the score for Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, so it always amused me how much of it was re-used from Victory.
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>>21618238
>Uso chose Shakti instead of this 
I don't care if I have to raise another man's son if I get to fuck this every day
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>>21640407
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>>21641169
Holy hell, What's that? I have never seen such a perfect design before
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>>21641240
Model number is right in the picture.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/ZMT-S13G_Godzorla

It doesn't accomplish much more than being an early boss of the week that caused the inexperienced MC more trouble than the usual enemy grunt.
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Mmmm Elischa Mmmmmm Martina
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>>21641308
>That name
I guess nothing can be truly perfect.
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>>21645032
>Genocide entire populations
>Lets have a sad goodbye episode of these two
that was pretty weird
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V3, the Forgotten.
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>>21645127
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>>21645130
From what little info it has (being featured in only one game some 20 years ago) it appears to be a development from V2 that incorporates Assault and Buster equipment as part of the machine, not unlike how FA Gundam had the extra armor bolted onto the RX-78 and later Heavy Gundam was designed with the extra equipment from the get go.
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>>21645133
Of particular note are the wired "hyper funnels". These are VSBRs (akin to V2 Assault's) mounted on the hips. V3 is equipped with psycommu (perhaps V2 was as well, given V2 Assault's shield bits) which enable the VSBRs to function as funnels. They are still wire connected akin to early psycommu weaponry to maintain connection to the reactor since they're still VSBRs.
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>>21645140
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>>21645140
>(perhaps V2 was as well, given V2 Assault's shield bits)
V2's mega beam shield could deploy emitters for a wider and stronger shield, but they were never capable of independent control or movement. They're not psycommu-type equipment.
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>>21645032
>>21645103
I don't care how sappy it is, their ghost sequence makes me weepy. That soft, melancholic music, the bike packed with supplies, the gorgeous trees and woodland lake, the cabin in.the woods. Duker and Renda went off to their paradise and I'm ok with it.
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>>21649286
>>21649288
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>>21610754 (OP)
I love it when Uso sleeps with his mom. And also I'm so into the idea that both of them are Char's descendants. If somehow by miracle Victory gets revisited or redone, I hope they go with that plan
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>>21649299
>both of them are Char's descendants
LIES! (uso!)
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https://twitter.com/NTzP68xV1aIUGLW/status/1648890697918058498
>When Director Tomino started V-gun, he threatened the staff that he would not allow it to be like 0083. That's why he put BG explosions in the explosions and so on. We didn't know how to do it, so we were puzzled. But eventually they stopped using it because we were so bad at it.
https://twitter.com/NTzP68xV1aIUGLW/status/1648892591717642240
>Well, even if he didn't mean it, if the director at the time said it... It sounds like a threat. I was quite concerned about the shadows, so I consulted with him about it. When the legs of the mobile suits were in the background, without shadows, it would have been very difficult. Eventually, the animators couldn't stop and it became like that. The director was like, "Let's do it! They were like, "Let's do it!
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>>21652780
I love the Gunblastor
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>>21650910
>That's why he put BG explosions in the explosions and so on.
I don't quite understand this line, what do they mean by BG explosions?
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>>21610818
>best gundam entry
That's like being valedictorian for retards.
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I have no idea where else to ask this, but can anyone point me in the direction of a good Wing release on nyaa? I keep seeing people in the comments say the subtitles are dubtitles, which is pretty horrible if true, so I was wondering if anyone here knew which release is the best, ie has accurate subtitles.
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>>21657842
Dubtitles are the best you'll get, there is no other better source for subtitles.
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Currentley new to Gundam, about to watch CCA very soon to get the essentials out of the way. Should I watch Victory over watching Turn A next? Both seem pretty even for me rn
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>>21661457
You can watch Turn A next but watching Victory before it enhances Turn A in my opinion
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>>21661462
Victory and X both tie in with how Turn A starts right? I heard something that X started the apocalypse that Turn A takes place in
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>>21661478
>I heard something that X started the apocalypse that Turn A takes place in
You heard wrong.
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>>21661478
>X both tie in with how Turn A starts right? I heard something that X started the apocalypse that Turn A takes place in
No, you can skip X and watch it later.
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>>21661478
Not really. That is fan canon theorycrafting for autist neckbeards who resort to mental gymnastics because in Turn A, or at least in its own version of events, a version of all the previous gundam stories also took place previously, and then said autists take it too literally and try to work it all together as if it's meant to be a canonical fact when it's really just meant to be a vague handwaved explanation for why it has so many overt references to previous Gundam stories.

There's no real well-thought out explanation or order required for watching, they're separate stories that don't really affect each other. At best, Turn A will just have some really explicit references to Gundam X but it's not required to understand the story or plot of either show in any way, it's more of a "look at this! it's *that thing* that was previously seen in another Gundam story!" kind of deal.
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>>21661457
I watched Victory first..
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>>21610754 (OP)
I'm on episode 7 and enjoying it this far. Animation looks good to me, I am bothered by the lack of shading and detail but everything seems to be moving more fluidly when they bother animating it. I also enjoy the late UC setting
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I need a Re100 Jamesgun kit so bad.
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>>21664762
Aren't they Genoace tier jobbers?
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>>21664844
They don't appear that often. You probably see the Javelins get killed more.
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>>21664762
bandai even forgot about the RE100 Rig Contio so never ever (sadly)
>>21664844
Jamesgun is outdated as fuck by the time Zanscare starts deploying the Zoloat or even before so no wonder they can't do shit
you need balls of steel to actually pilot one of these things against Zanscare
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>>21665064
Even worse, the Victory MSV handbook mentions this:

>Federation soldiers who saw action with the Jamesgun voiced concern over a lack of generator output.
>In part, some even voiced that the suits were not mobile suits but mobile workers.
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>>21665064
>>21665135
Jamesgun was rolled out in UC119, and Victory is UC153. A GM or Zaku-II appearing in CCA would be less outdated in comparison.
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>>21665276
By that login the jamesgun would shit on sazabi and other older masterpieces
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>>21665326
It probably would, even those Jegans from F91 would dunk on CCA mobile suits.
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>>21665587
Nta but wish the shows portrayed better the differences with ages of the weaponry, 60 years later and the ms move at the same speed, dodge as fast, their pewspews deal the same amount of damage and their armor last the same. The only visual difference (beyond design) is that now use energy shields (though in 1000 years they'll go back to physical ones).
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>>21665740
Gundam usually ends up showing off tech differences fairly well, but performance is always hard to gauge on screen and it's impossible to compare between even just different Gundam shows due to all of them having differences in animation style and direction.
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>>21668225
is this a mg Second V conversion I'm seeing? sexy.
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>>21625102
Victory's score is so good. This particular song was just playing in my head on loop for days after I finished it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4CE0SdOJkI [Embed]
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My fav gundam design, to me victory looks like an F-14/F-15/F-16 for some reason