House Of Commons, Friday,...
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lsur. A usix, presentect a petation from ilMr. William Cobbett, charging the trustees of the Kensington turnpike trust with false statement in their late allegations before the Elouse of Commsns. The trustees had declared that they owed debts (upon the trust) which they could not pay, unless the particular act of Parliament which the; prayed for was allowed them; that act was now refused in the Htuse of Lords, and the petitioner had aeans of showing that thin-declaration of the trustees was untrue: he therefore prayed tbe house to adopt some course which should prevent similar imposi- tions in future. .llr. BYNG defended the conduct of the trastees. hMr. HUM E said that the trustees had deelared the trust to be in debt. and to an extent which its funds could not meet, unless the -existing act was continued. Now it stood proved by the papers upon the table of the house, that instead of their trustbeing in debt, there was a balance of more than 4,0001 upon the accounts, in their favour. He insisted, therefore, that the charge of thepetitioner was rnade out. The petition was then read, and ordered to be laid on the table. Sir J. YORKE presented a petition from John Wells, Esq., against the return on the late election for the countv of Huntingdon. -Ordered to be taken into consideration on the 14th of June next, at three o'clock in the afternoon. Mr. BLACKBURNE presented a petition from the butchers of Warrington, Lancashire, in favour of the hides and skins bii. Snt u i Ur _es- - - -- ; r-,i- rn AS,n.7 arnd nntller place in the same county. MIr. SYKES presented a petition.against the said bill from the carriers and tanners of liogston-upon.HnlL Petitions were presented s,gainst the beer retail bill from victuallers and brewers of the following places:-By Mr. BOLSrES, from Bishop's-Castle; by Mir. B. lElvOy , from S-afford; by Captain MABE aLY, from NorthaTipton, Isleworth, and another placein .tliddlesex . by 5Mr. SCOTT, from Ealing, Chiswick, and Acton; by Mr. F. HoDosox, from Barnstaple- by Sir W. DE CRES- px&Gar, from Southampton; by Mr. S. 1VORTLEY, from lieeds; by Air. R. BERNAL, from Queenborough, from George Brown, of the Red Lion, and John Foot, of the Rose and Crown, Greenwich. MIr. COKE presented a petition from Richard Chapman, brewer, of Bagnigge-wells, in tavour ot the bill, and pravng to be called to the bar ortbe house, in which case he would prove that the article which the monopoly brewers and pubEcans rendered at Sd. or 6d. might be well rold for 4d. Air. AlONCK,of Reading, supported the petition, and expressed his approbation of this bill, as -well as of the bill last year. The good effects of this last bill were verv visible in the neighbourhood of Reading; for though alt had aavanced 50 per cent. since then, and hops more than 2001. per cent, the publicang continued to sell as good beer for 4d. now, as they sold then for 5d. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would not enter into hny argument upon the bill just now but he thought it might be convenient if we were- to state to tie house the course which he meant to pursue. It was this. Though he was quite satisfied tbat his arrangement of the duties was consistent with sound princi- -ple, yet, as it nad been met by numberless objections, lie thought it best to comply with the seemingly general opinion of the house, and forbear to press that part of the measure which related to the new F;-ale of duties. As to the other part of the bill relative to the re- tailing of beer, upon that he was determined not to give it up. Mr. MtABE RLY thought that the part which therighthon. gent. intended to retain was bv far the worst of the two. It professed to give redress to the publican, who was already under severe Govern- nent restrictions, and would actuallyruin bim by letting in upon him a2most unrestrained competition. lie would therefore persevere in his intention of moving,that the order forthe further consideration of the report be read this day six months. Iltr. MIONCK denied that the publican and brewer was under more, or even as much restraint, as the retail brawer, who was not a publican . because the former might do as he pleased in the sale of his beer, either to out-door customers or in: the latter was confined to the sale to out-door customers. Captain WEM1lYSS presented a petition from Kirkealdy, against -the Scotch poor bill. 31r. DAVENPORT presented a petition fromn an individual, -vihose name and residence were not heard in the gallery, praying the -rEductioa of duties on legades made to public charities. Mr. SYKES presented a petition from the attornies and their tclerks, nraying to be allowed to act as notaries. Lord 'STOPFORD presented a petition from Wexford, against -the bonded wheat bill. llr. S. WORTLEY presented a petition from the clerks of the rost-ofilce, and another from the clerks of the Customs, against the ,uperannuation act. R;IGfTS OF BRITISH SUBJECTS IN JAMUCA. Dr. LUSHiNGTON rose to present 2 petitions, to which lie re- quested thle attention of the house, and particularly of the Mlinisters ofhis Majesty's Government. lI the facts alleged in. the petitions were true, therenever wasa case which called smore loudly for their inter- ference; notoonly with aview to dojustice to the oppressed who corn- plained to them, but also to punish the oppressors. The. first pettion stated, that the petitioners are freemen of colourt, natives of Kingston, in the is!and of Jamaica, where they had constantly re- si ed; that they were married to vromen, also natives of that island, and had each four children-that they were engaged in business as liquor-merchants&-that they held the rank of ser- geants in the militia; in which they have served since the year 1813-and that thev wssessed property in the island, consistdng of houses, land. and slaies: that about she latter ena of September [last, the petitioners underweat an examination before certain magis- trates of Kingston as to the proofs they possessel of beilng British.- born subjects, wheIC they produced, in support of that fact, the cer- -sficates oftheir baptism, and other necessarydocumrintes that on the 7th of October follovwing, petitioners were apprehended, and carried to prison, for the purpose, as they were inlbnsied, of being eummarly removed from the island of Jamaica, as aliens, and -dangerous persons; but I writ of Habeas Corpusl having been issued, on their application to. the Grand Court of the island, their csse -underwent a fUU and minute investigation before'Mlr. Chief Justice Scatlett, and the tweV assistant Judges, Mills and West, on -the 25th of the samie month; and the sentence pronounced by the Court was. that the petitioner were both British-bom.subiect and aj% such entitled to tleir discharge, and to the enjoymsent'of al their privilegres as lritish citizens. He felt it incumbent on him to state to the nouse, that these petitioners werenot persons of no estimation, in a lI= line of life, or unknown to the other inhabitants of the island, for their petition went on to state, that upon their sub- a,equently appearing, before the said Chief Justice, they were attended by six freeholders for the purpose of giving hail. TJpon that occasion, the Chief Justice dened to receive,the ofTered 'bal, on the ground that he knew ofn charges against them. 'Tiat the petitioners were thus disdcarged, after a detentiPn of 18 days, without any distinct communication having been. made to them of the grounds of their imprisonntent_..that during their imprison. meatr a memorial, bearing testimony to tbe.g'eneral good conduct of the petitioners, was addressed to his Excellency the Govemor, 'bythirtyof themoat respectable merchants and magistrates, of who0m one was arneniber of the council, six.vwere magistrates, and one was the Provost-marshnl-general. Up to the tinmc of their arrest, therefore, the house must be satisfied that tlre petitioners were men Of irre roachable character. Aftler their discharge, the petitioners returned to their usual occupations with incrtased corfidence of se- cority3, having thus rceeived from the'first judicial authority in the islam, a ful aeknowledgment of their clain to the tiile 6f British stubjects, and as they fully believed, to 11 the legal protection which blcnas to that character. After wbat had pamsed, the house would e.sprieaceas much surprise as the petitoners felt, vwhen, whilst they -ver peaceably engaged in their priyatze business, on the evening of he 2,ith of last November, their store or shop was zujroundvAR by marshalmen and constables, the 'petitioners :were A . sei zed under an alleged order of his Ex~ellency the G6v .b2i the same cha-rge as that oil' whichl they hatl florm'erlyb'h "~Fr~ted,vz. that of beinig alieiis and dangerous pesp-d'rg d oi1 their fiumilies. and homes, with6ut e al~ m vetoeC thieir childrern, ahd.hurrled. on b'oserd' i 1' 'gadhp Scrapi;. 'Nobody,. h6 presumed.,wol i(titthsw 'uh condaet.as ouglit h ave been adopte by aio onded on' fac2nd liberaljrinciples. 'If the ben~~Lnac ad felt it to b'e hiAs dutv to arrest the petitioners wO.uld h ave, been no,less,his 'dutY to haivc lie qu ~ hi ul ripnnocence fairly in,vesilg4ted, and' to -exanmii'eidecwil iglt be, bro'ught'ag'ainst ihem, befare he v- to eid'tathywere guilty, and sentence thbent, rto so jev punsmn.Wt what' indignation, then, aLs well as s~'hhn,wouild the housebhear,: that wthoutfly sch ia esti~withiout afford'ing the petition- ers ny oporunit of rovdi~f~' heir defence, or of cormmuni-~ eating witli their fred r~ they were,, on- the day succeed- ing that on whichte a ees iz,transported to St. Domingo, whiere theay were --ie. Ha,her)'The petitidners stated this in the following ters- htteptitiners were assured at- the time, bytihe a-lien ofe h retdte, that. they would be al- lowed to Teinain ten daYs on board thtship, ~si'order that they, might comimunict withi the Governoro thle sutbject of thieir apprehension, aLnd' make the necessary aragementrs respecting their propert,yfanfd mercantile concerns. thattis promise, however, was no flfl led ; for on their being tknon board the Serapls,:s0 severe wa-s the restraint imposed'. upon them, that they were not per- mitted tU. hold the is'lightest; commiunication, with their families (al- though they.came alongsidle in a boat for the purpose), nor a7en, to send on shore a letter of directions for the management oDf their affaits; but that on the following morning about four o'clock, they were rem-oved from the Serapir to his Mlajestv's ship Helicont, a)nd. immediately conveved to Jacmel, in the 'island of St. Domringo.' That on the arrival 'of the HeZico,r at Jacmnal, they were by the Captain ofe that ship turned ashore to shiift for themseilves, in a fo. reign country, in' which, lbut for the kindl assistanice afforded them' by certain British merchants resident thecre, they imust have siufferedI the greatest distres.1 Hfe (Dr. Lushington) was at a loss to conceive what excuise could be offered for so gross a violation of.the rights of British -subjects. It would not, he was sure, be i~aid in an English House of Commonis, tlmt because meni were a shiade 'darker than those who,were born in ouri owni'cliinate, ithey wvere tieieefore to be depried of the privileges which the constitution of Great Britain 'extended equall to her-moltexalted,and her meanest subjects.(Hfear, hlear.) After tcy were landed at Se Domiuigo, the fate which aw it, 'ed them seemred to be at least as unhiappy, as that whicti ad beZvllen thenk4in Janiica. They becaume immediately objects of suspicion to thleU*overnment of Ulavti, and were taken up againt as aliens and dangetout persons. He <Dr. Luslhington) held in his hand a Hay- tlan Gazette, in which thiis fact was stated, and if it had, not hap. pened, by good fortune, that there was on board the sbfp which had brought tlhem, a .Jamaica newspaper., containing an account of their beingfirst arrested in the latter island, and the proceed'ins on the hesba.?corus, heywoud aainhve eendoo ied tote pain of mai unertheproecion an idebedfor terrmeansof subsistence to te kndnss o soe Bitis mechats resideat there.: T'he pe- titioners went on to state, "that for treatment so severe and so arbi- trary, and so contrary not only to British law, and to tlile 5pt of the British constitution, but even to the laws of Jatina~ itself, no cause whatever has yet been assigned to them ; and to the present day they have been wrholly unabe atho~ugh they have used many entreaties and much ekertion for that purpose, to learn on what grounds or for what suppos,ed offence on their partthey have been suibjected to such harsh and illegat punishment. That the circumstances attending their first apprehension in the month of October last, and the subsequent appointment of a seeret committee of the House of Assembly of Jamaica to inquire into I'certain trea'. onabie practices which wvere suspected to have had their rise sn Kingston, anti the parties immediately concerned in which were6sup- pos,ed to be foreigners, agents of Boyer, the President of Hayti,' have led the petitioners, in the absence of all dlirect and authentic information on the subject. to conjecture that their deportation most have been occasioned by the renewed effort of secret enemies to the on them the character of aliens and danlgerous persons. That, how- ever, of their being British suibject by birth, the petitioners had be- fore fuarnished the most satisfactory proofs; while the entire coDnsci- ousuies,s thiey possiessed of having on all' occasions conducted thein. selves ais peaceable and loyal subjects, rendered themn perfectly ready to mneet any legal trial to which t'hcy miight be brouight,and perfectly confient f beng ale t rebt an chage wich igt be preferred ncaist hem bu tht tis ustco as ene toite lpetitioners. Tha o thirarrva atSt Dmino he ettioer lst no timel'n addessng meoril o hs Ecelenc te Governor-of Jamaica, prayng o h mae aquante wih te accusations against themn, and onfontd wth teiraccser; ad to be allowed the opportu- nit oflglyvindicating themselves; but thiat to this application noaseha been retuirned. That having waited in St. Domingo, in the expectation of such answer,until the monith of March last, the petitioners determined, as their only remaining resource, to proceed to this country, and to solicit the protection of hisMlajesty's paternal GovernmTent and of the British Parliament. That to this honour- able house the petitioners dIn most humbly, but confidently, appeal, dleclaring mnost explicitly and solemnly, that they are. wholly unconscious of having committed any offence whateve-r against hisg Mlajerty's Government, or of being chargeable with any condsuct valculated7to-endanger the safety, or distulrb the Peac, of the island of Janiaica,-..tbatlhey have never held any cor- re-spondenc with St. Domingo, or any other country than Great Britain, arid that they hiave on all occaioris tlischairgedI their duties as loyal citizens and subjects of his Mlajesty. That the petitioners, besides being subjected toea great variety of heavy expenses, have to lament their ruined fortunes, their blasted prospects in life, and their dlistressed and impoverished families,' in conseqaence of the unjust and illegal p-receedings of which they h-ave been the victims. That the petitioners, there or, as men, as freenien, and above all as British subjects, who have been deprived of that privilege which is neverdenied to the greatest criminals,-that of not being condemin- ed unheard,--implore this honourable hiouse to institute an inquiry into thle premises which they are ready to establish by proof at the bar of this honourable house, and to grant thems suich -redresx, Par- ticularly in enabling them to return to their bome,their families, andl friends. as to the 'Oisdom of your lionsurable house shall scernmeet." He had stated the facts without exaggerating a sinigle circumstance; and he did not at this moment intend to detain the house withi many observations on the case. If these facts were tren, the outrage whichi lhad been committedi was so fragrant a one, that he was sure his honiourable friend could not be prepared to justify it. If, on the contrary, thle facts were untrue, he called uPon his hlonourablt friend, and he called upon the Government generally, to furnish the hiouse with satisfactory proofs of their falsehood. (Hear, hear.) H4e had himself seen and examined, and cross-examined the per- sons by whom the petition was signed; he had sought informa- tion from others, as to the chiaracter of the petitioners, and in no respect had hediscoverea any thing which could induicehinm to doubt their credibility. He called, therefore, upon the Government lo ex- plain to the house the reasons uipon which thin violent deportation of' the petitoners hiad been resolved upon ; ~and to state i7by they had beenci torn away from their homnes,.wit4GUt notice of anv accus~ation, and w~ithout time to provide for thieird'Tefence. H e, called uipon themn tostte if they could, any.eircumstances which could justify the coneming a man, without a trial, upon the same charge of wlhichi he: hiad once been acquitted, and that totaly unheard. (hear.) He should now trouible the house no more ; but before, he, conicledaed, he begged to state, that unless the mnoat satisfactory explanation should be given h'e should feel it his duty to call the miost Beriouf' attenition of thye house to the subieet; and he wouild not rest until he had rescued the character of the British nation from the foul disgrace of having participated in an act of'such odious oppression as that wihteheti tion detailed. (Cheers.) MrVI[FLMOT HORTON rose tQ reply- to the honourable and learned gentleman, but he spoke in iso low a tone, that many of the sentences with which he commencedl his specb were totally inaudible in the gallery.. 'When we could catchi the'sense of what lie was saying, we undterstood himi to state that he was nlot able to meet the statemenit of his lion, and learned friend, for want of par- ticular information as to the several mnatters contained in the peti- tion. All that he knewv was, that the petitioners had been com- plained of by the magistrates o'l'Kingston as being aliens, dangerous personis to the Government, and engaged ini a treasonable coinspiracy against it. rt wvas true that the Duke of Manichester'lhad put th~e alien act in force against them. It seemed to be equally true, as far as the scanty infornmation he possessed enabled.himi to bepeak, that they hiad applied for writs of hba6eg corputs; which had been granted. But his honourable and learned firiend .had admitted,, that if these men were aliens, the maRistracy of Jamaica were emn- powered by law to remove thiem from the isand. The ques- tion tisen first seemned to be, whether the petitioners were or were not aliens, and merely alegal point' shouldhe separated fromn that of expediency. Au to what hadlbeen stated of the proceedings in the Court of King's. Bench, that, it wouald be remembered, 'was Tme(rely an ex-parteproceeding,and the affidatvIts upon which the de- cision of the Court of King's Bench had been fop-med could not be received as conclusive evidence of the f-adt of the petitioners being British-born subjects. He (Mlr. Hlorton) was ready to allow that if it shiould appear thek wkere not aliens, the Government OF Jamaica had incurred a most seriouis responsibility ad onei in which it could neither he COLuntenanced nor excused. Har hear.) But, it was evident from the peoccedings whichhadI been adopted that thieDuke of Ianichesterthoaught they were alens. A committee had been ap- poin-ted to inquire into the causes of the disturbances, and liad re- ported the petitioners, not only tobe engaged ina treasonableconspi-. racy, but alsothat they were intimately connected with the slaves who hiad been triedIfor rebellion, and to'whom one of the petitioners had sold arms. Thes~ were points whiclithe house would agree with him required ex lanation. His hon. and leArned friend had roused' the feelings ofKe house by appeals to.the BTtish Cons9titution, but he (Mlr. Hlorton) begged that the situation of the Duke of lMan- chester might be recollected. There could be-no doubt thiat a re- bellion had existed against' the Government; and his Grace was' called upon to exercise every'lega.l'powertliat-he possessed,'which migh ted t thesecrit of he oloy,. comamitted to his charg& It ws hi (Mr~H6ron's mos anxoue ishthat the fullest infor- maron houd b funised y te'Gverment abroad, and he as- surd te husetha evry ossbleste shuldbetaken to procure thitinoraattn, ithut hic itwasobviu thehouse could not safly rocedwit th inesigaionofthis affair. Wheh-iheueoes. tion as to the petitioners beinkg aliens should have been decided-it would be time to discuss the ex.pediency and policy of ihe measures. whichl the Government of" Jamaica had adopted, and which could only be 'understood when full information should be furnished re. specting the.circumstances in whitli: the colony was at' that time placed. Heshould nDt oppose tbe bringing up 'ofthepetition. Alr. BROUGHAM was truly'-6orry that the' right hon. gent. vas not prepared with a filler explaiin'tion if nota contridictiop, of the statements conitained in the petition. irom the information of which he was in fiosiiession, it appeared, however, that the Gover- nor of Jamaica hat arrested two persons whose alienship had come in question before the 5upreme Court of Judicature:in thpt isl4nd. Annd here lie begged to -pause for a moment, to set the right lon. gent. tight in one of the facts -lie h3ad stated.' ' The irquiry bdfore that court was'not, "ag heli'd represented it, 'aniex-p('rte'proieed- ing. The Duke of Mlanchester was there nrcsent 'repustentea bv his Attorey-General, to examine the proof vhich was affbred. It was the duty and in the discretion of the Court to pronounce upon the arguments against as well as for the p attics accused. Upon that inquiry,however,itappearedtbat the certificates oftbebaptisenoftbtese uuDppoed aliens wfere produectl,and proved that they were born at Kings ton, in Jarijaica." -The Attorniiy.Genetal`s' objectionit were 'heard, and tie court, aLfter't'lfea ueisd'ohldswrfnse,I restolyeudthat 'th'e oetitin6ter veremot'aliens,butBEiitish-bor'iisu1,jecti~ 'After the lapAe 01?a fewwee'ks, duiri4t *hieh'1the D)6kaof'Mdjn -chse had aequiesc6''in. thedecisionSf thiecoutiit; lie,hivini-beirdi -sodfe bftrjiratters; pllegedl against 'the - petfitiolrs; 'as' :bd7'(tMjj again to be arrds?ed'and senit away fr6in the- island witoittoisdel-ay withiout permifttng thelw-to!receiv t'he0ieos'frhd cousisel; or gent~ani4 o fs-'b-e-ntli'withot affr ding-theus she "- sibilJity bf again -appealing iftor4litflore which, UPOn'full dis. *cussioi aind afltei- hearing evden& Jieit'bifth,:rikhts h'ad benV h~ blushed. (Hear, bear~. *Tlis w lhis 1Brpftghhiim!5}-iarge- agdinst the Dake of, Marichester-_thitj h62had'doni-'fhW1 fiatr- the: de,'ion ofte Cor o in'r h b ~i:e *t6etil 'of that ,decision, The Duke of- M'ancbester'hhiiglft4-be'hbl~ in'e-x.. p lain this: ashe,-was inisone mea,sure n'o* ori!his -ni~,het. Broughani) would not r.eJudge him; but he coald,bt7i~~ siug somfe surprise - that h'is' c6rinuiihic~itions withf bi'Mjsys Gov&nrnent had not furnisheld ihem'with thb etaeas oforacin (if they couldi be contradictedl) the statements of the pettor. Mlr. GRtOSETT aidii, thMt he was inffiftmed by letter fion'a matiCa, that ope of thie-ettioners (L~ecestie) was- suplposedto be-th'd person sed had stupplied the rebellious a:gegres"With- arais.! It Aetmed that thetiegro-s'of the northeruparts of the-islaxnd-hau'ean. tributed mnoney, as was supposed. fdra missionary ; butt whbich Wvas' -Afeerwards'devoted'to the purchase of abut 20 stands of a'rms, con- veyed acrogi 610tcisl-to tie'parishes of St. Allary and St. George, and there Was'ait least a strong insputo*ion against the petitllonrta it was by bi,iv those~ ariTi bid- been fdr nec tha Mr. HORTrON wished toexplan,2tbhatas:well ashe c6ulaicarn from sthe information h'e po?iessed, soime fresh 'facts had chie to the knowvledge of the Governor between the Jime'of the petitioners being,discharged by the Court of King's B3ench and thecir second arrest, If it- hiad turned out ~that - the, affidavits under which-that discarg wa proure weefale,(e sokeunder correction), would - Ilr. ROUHAMrepled,tha miht frnih areaon, why Dr. LUSHINiGTON was somnchat ttifpiisea at the line of de- fenice-which his right hon. friend bad6Mhsen toepopt., 'Whoseif orlibeTties would be safe, if they were liable toube carried off at itfiee' siiU 'of thie ;Gove'rnment, without trial. aild out of the country. of which they claimedI to be&citizens.? - With respect to thi -state ment madeby the lhonourabie member under the gallery (Mr.' Grosett), he mirstocalt the attention of thehouse f6r a'fdlb,'riTautes to a fact of which he was in potssssion. - On 'the trial of 'certain slaves in. - aa nuary, 1824, one.Negro wras found to state, tbat the~arpmshnd, been purcha.sed of'thisgvery Lecesne L1ui petitioner. Thi accuissed lv'c, were defended on their trial-by the rector ofthe parish a'd certaiin other individuals. 1-e (Dr. Lushington) 'held in is' h4bd a- letter fromi ihat rector (the Rev. Colin Donaldson) written 'atte'r'the c6n vicd6in of thmoshslaves, in which bc- said thbat he believed iii hischn- 3cience the conidemned m.en were perfectly innocent, bin kette- had fallen the viotimis to a coaspiracy bcertain inldividuials. 1Vith~ respect to Baptiste, the Negro who had' -given the' evidemice allu.ded' to, the rectdr said that he 'was "an emnissary from,, St. Doming6 atid that he was " the most' perjtred,' diboli.. ea], -and iusiAliouas fiend that. ever was let loose on earth." The honourable and learned gentlemnan concluided his reply, by aslkang his right honourable friendI (Mlr. [Horton) to lay upon tile table- such informiation as he possessed relative to. the petitioners. If-he -refused, he (Dr. Lushington) woelcd, at the earliest opportunity, move for its produ'ction ; and lie pledged simnself to the house, that he would pursue the -subject until the whole factsa of the case were fully explained. (Hear, hear.). Mr. GROSETT said the'letter he haVI'spoken of 'was written- to him by a magistrate who ha d aLttended the trials of the negroe&.- -The petition was then ordered to be -printed. MAr. flUAE -preseinted nine petitions.- from the journeymen artisans of Lond'on, NVestminster, and SoathWark,, against the corn. bination- laws. The honoiurable' member then brought up the report of the committee on artisans and' machinery, In moving that it be p-rinted, he said the6 committee-bad directed their arten, tion chiiefly to the suibject of tIme comabination laws, to the permis- sion to artisans to quit the country, andl to the permission to- ex-port machinery; upon which they hadacome to the followingregolutions:.. " That it is -the ojiinion of this committee, that masters an-dwork.. m'en sho~uld be freed from such -restrictions as' regard the rate of wages, and the h6urs-of worleisig, and- b'L left at perfect liberty to ma e such agreements as they may mutually -think proper. cuThat, tlFerfore, the statute lawvs that' interfer in these parti- cuars betwleeen masters and wvorkmen, should ber`epealed; anid alao, th4t, the common law. usnder which a. peae~p4blc meeting of, masters or workmen ma~v be 'prosecutesl as a conspiracy, should be altered, " cThat, in theopinion-,of this cnmmitthe,'st'isboth unj'ust andim- politic to continiue these laws ; they, therefore, recommuend their entire repeal, and thertartisans may be'at liberty to go abroad, and to return home, whenever they may, be so disposed, in the same mianner as other classes oftlre-conmmunity -n'ow go and return. '- That your commWuec have exanmied evidence respectingte export of machinery, which will be fouindin the Appendix - but they' nreof opinion thant further inquiry-,and a niore completeinves- tigation,sh6uld take place becfore this iimpOirtant subject can be satis- factorily decided on; and -they therefore recommencm, that the con- ideration of this important que~Ui6n should be resumied in theniext sesso of Parjiament." - Tidhbon. muemb'dr gaVd-notice 6fiis-initntitio tonmove,onMondlay next, for perrmission 'tob)Uing in j bill, for the purpose of' carty'ing into effect tberecornmen'dations of thecommitteeon theabove points. MrT. IV. SMITHrpresented a p2tition from thlelicensed iietuallrs of Norwich aind its liberties, against the beer bill.- AMr. MIABERLY p resented a petition from a deputation of brewers,-pra ingthait the -beer bill might be proceeded with. for. RiIEY COL,BORNF, presentcd -a petition from Thect- for against the beer biJl.- Air. MlfONOK presented- petitions from the inhiabitants of Reaid-, ing, aRd the landowrners and farmers in the viCitofhabruh, in favouir of the beer bfi. - cityothtbru, Mlr. FYSHE PALM1ER presented simyilar petitions from certain inhabitants of Reading and Newbury. A message from thei lordi-announced tlu6ir lordiships' assent to the silk bill.- GENERAL LUMLEY. Mr. ELLICEgave notice, thaton Thursday next he shiould move - THE NEW CORSOLW Mr. L1TTIJETON -piesented. a petition fi6ra 31r.&Sane, the architect, wvhich comnplained that an tundue responsibility had beers.cast upon h im, respecting the designl for the new 'build- ings -in Pal4ce-giar, ancl' also that the arrangemerits which he had provided or thoso' engaged in the'is&w courts of law, would be rendered in a great degree nugatory, if the reco'inmendation o-f the late commffittee were cairried into effect. BMr. Soane 9tated, that- by order of the lioruis of the T-i-casury, -he nade a suirvey, for the diew buildings in'Pal2ce.ybrd; in 'the years 1820 and 18291, and sentishbis plan to the Treasuirv soon after. Th'at it vwas t'hen referred' to the .Judges of the respe&tive courts, and;' afeer some alterations adopted in consequence of that reference, ultimate`ly ap:poved of by the. Laidssot'the Treasuf~-,' anidei'dered 'to be carrie into elfett. Alr. -Sostne was therefore anixious, for his own professional reputation, that it should beitnowrn he hadl'gone on step by step under 'tWa ~anictiou 'of - the! Lords of the Treasury ; and with reference to the recomnmendation of the late committee, he - ad - tfo point out, that if that. were, carried into effidct, anda particularly ifn th erec- tion of what was 'eallcd "1the Tudor tower" at the corner, al Uie: aragemnents w~hich he lidd proVidled for a liLw libratry, for barritecs and attinrnies, as well as-for the judges- themfselves, would2be im- pedeil and -randered useless. Thepctit1ori"d'ecrilmcdf'he varibuis ante- roomis, aud theo spaciouis vestibule which Air. Soane' had -provided according to the present plan, and urgeda'tie Propriety of consult. ing usiess s wll a oremen inthestructure of those bdildingrs.' The etiton ws rad a'lenth b th clerk. - Mr. SARLET thughtthe xteror atf the niew building was di~rac t th satinaltate,an ouhtto be taken down. - (eat'.) He uggste tht te od hil-our ofthe Duchy ef Lanicaster migh-bereneret inrh ommoiou, ad avallable for some -of the accommodtonrq -ie by AMr. Shane, in the place of.other ar- rauigements wihe ntemplated. - Mlr. BANKSwihdtcrkoibw if th6hon: member meant-to refer this petition fo a select committee ? - - - - Mlr. LjITTLETON replied in the negative,- and said, that if he had been in thehlouse whien the late select committee was appointed, hei should have opposed it; for he did niot think 'that the'public in- terests were likely to 'be promoted by thi; miode of shifting. the i e- sponsibility respecting public work-s from the Executive to private and irresponsible individuials. - - Sir JOSEPH Y-ORKE saitd, thit 31r. Soane's petitlon'cle4~rly slidwed'that he had acted unolcr the authority of -the'fiords 'of- the -TrT'heuCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEMQUFR said,, that 'when this riatter was discussed on :a former night, he had fully adinitted the responsibiliky of the Lords of the Treasury for the design of Air.' Soane. He certainly entertained dodhbis of the~ proprietydf'a part of the plan, hut still it slmoutld be recollected ' that the-obbject uppermnst with -the Government was the speedy e rectioin of courts for the dle 'despatc,hof publin business. As to the question of thst6; wrhere no two persons could be brought to agree uoon one point.' he.would not pretend to give-sn opinion. IL-was'certainly- due to' Mr. Soane to state, that thec Lords of thxe Treasutry had satnctionied his 'design.- -- - Mr. DENMAN said, that :probably -an architeetirtal ornament, had been too muchi considereg~ in tire late report of the committee and that,-.what was more esential-the publicaccomodation had not beeni equally' considered. lie- concurred in the estimnation in whi.ch P. iaasical buildingieas'hehl, a6d admitted -that eiternalwpo..: priety wvas a matter. of great eonseouen'ideto theuintionsl taste. -It Wai highy imortat, owever, wh'entheywereeobnsid-ringthisiulatte,-to: reflctuon he oteof 30Q,0001. for repairing Wlindlsor Castle. When the wee iforedthat the present Lords of the Treasury,;many-of the pesojs o ditinesiheta'ite' ianffidiiedthe new buildings in. Palae-yad,wichthe rnoenWt diew- were seen,j excited a public, callto aveteuntakn d~; raliing s i wee- t'e ab'of the three 'wishes--.whnthy erinomdo lestig, it was importantifor them oosle~wa ih eteaeo's~-tot beuiulbuildifig' intesstyWndoCale hnuca aunm otmoney was to be apilied, not imipossibly for its defaienent., He should iike to see an cstirate,_tI; for the -new buildings in WIstminster-Hall; ~then, for- pulling-them down nEnd lastly, fot rebuilding tbem,-as an example fo?those who were to be engaged- in the new works at WindFor. - - - ! 'SirCHA RLES BURRELL hoped shlatthe-extefior of the ,new- buililngs in:Palace-yard would be made locorrespb'nd.wiEh West- minster Hall,and carried round so as-toresove the disgraceful tfont of the House of Lords. - ! - 'Mr. BRIGHT- -hoped that tbe'discussion on p0iofnt - of.talste would not prevent tic erection of the Gourts'for-business in next'lUi- chaelnas termn.- - lllr. RIDtLEY COLBORNE said, lthatthe old plan whli6h was laid ibefore th clate committee fulljuistified thereport theyha.l ndae. Sir JOSE;PH YORKE' llopcel iat: af- uniformity of -front would b pieserved in' the wlole range'ofthetewbuildgm s . 31r. BANKES said, that as to the proposed obstruction to the accommoclationsprovid.ed by M r. Soane, he bad not heard that suc- ante-rooms were eitherprovided or desired in the old courts. After a few words from Lord Jo}IN RUS59LL and Mr. BE- N,TT, the petitioa was ordered to be printed. S;r B. KNAT BUL4p.reac,4itd ,Iefitinie-A ,Crb D"i~r an abungainsttlbebonded wheatblf!. MrsCAbjn suXlitsfttin' hoenIsiicaatez coixny coare-bill-s hich- wa,s, rcad sr first timnet -and-otdered fi; 1r Sir ~. tE.NBU1lIDTT preetnted a petition from S is bett Jamnies t9eVco;toihPl9 fing ;ot: them gnant. -vesigeance of'the'Orangemen irmthat)p:srt ojp the cossfltrv..I'rh'e iSetition was ordered to bepriated. , - j Sir -F. BUROET1'jreisered a petition froti the inhabitantts of Brentfrd,aginst the leerlbill vlrR O L reea pml1silr petitionafroml the,licensed 'M{I-WIS'lMCXpT EHORTON !1hid1uponitj& table tcertain,papersrc latvcro^Dsnrary*lkhwerto~redered-o-bprinted'L - vifyaHi bf'rsWOOL.DUTefES.. .r , ~ ~~~~~ a odSesotl of the &kyfor thelfphous6 ..... e ..p .Au-omieo h,_'6o importation and exiithd Nbi11t" P-1-n 0 Alr. CURTBIS falt ihis-duty0p2setle rcad,.g.of the order of thc day, because 'be ' onieived-thaf thr but in iifestion ainsed a seyere blowv a,t 'tle- agprii ltThunteresti -haiuasureliwas one of ?1e f,ist fruits .et the new schieol of philosophy wich lied lati iprung'np r-espectiig~ fire' tra'de AlU thathe *de sired on. the part of,the agricultural interest- was, tbat they night be: protected against-nn inundation of foreign wool. He move3d, as n amendrment, tbat tlie orderof the day be reaa this day sis months. The Se'EAI}1. said, that the hon. member could not move an ginendmenf on the qqestion for reading tle orderoftheday. After the Order of the day had-been read, he might oppose the motion for going into a comrnnittte. - Ur. CURTEIS acquiesced. The'ordbr ofthe dayas then read. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEIQUEa moved that the Speaker do leave the chair. Mr. CURTBIS moved asan amen'dment that'the Speaker should net lcave the chair till this day six months. (Oreat lanlibter.) The SPEAK13R-The hon. member must pardon mefor saying tat t1iis-motion is even worse than the 1brmeni. (Liughter.u Mlr. iUR'rEIS thenl movedthatthe house sheuld resolve itself initn the colmittec on this day six months. Sir B. 13NA.TCIIBULIz, although he concurred in'te cdissappro.. bation vwhich thc hon. member for Sussex had expressed against the bill, wished It togo to a committee, where the objections against it could be more conveniently urged Mr. S. WORTLEY said heconsideredthe principleof the biD to be ruinous to the agricultural interest. He was sorry to see that great inMercst neglected by gebthemen who were led away by 'their lovc of spinning jenunie. He thought it was equally the interest of the manufat'cturing as well a?s the agricultural Clss not to allow the exportation of wool. Alderman THOMPSON protested: against the exportation of vool. Afr. BENETT wishetl the duties on the importation'and expor- tatiosn of wool to beeqnalized. ' ,Mr. T. WILSON thought it unwise to allow the exportation of long wool to foreign countries which showed no disposition to make concessions on matters Qf trade to us. Every pound of wool ex- ported would be mixed'with three or four pounds of' other wool, not the produce of this country. The CHANCELLOR of the EXlCHEQUER. said, that- the principle of the bill was-first,whether the duty on the importation of wool should be reduced at all, and secondly, whether the exports. tios of Rool should be allowed at all. He&had fully explained the principle of the measure in February last, and his right honourable friend (Mr. Huskisson) had afterwards gone over the same ground again when he moved certnai resolutions, founded on the statement which he {the Chancellor of the- Ex- chequer) had made. Under these circumstances, he thought' it would be most advisable to go into a committee, where the det0ils of the measure might be discussed. Lora lILTON expressed his dissent from, and his regret at, what had fallen from his hon. colleague (Mr. S. Wortley) with re- gard to the bill in question. From all that he. had been able: to bear en the. subject, he considered it one of the wisest measures that could be'adopted. Those gentlemen who represented the adri- cultusal interest inr that house took an erroneous view of the ques- tion. He beileved that the free importation of wool into this coun- try would be-attended with-the most beneficial' restults. He ho,ed the-Chancellor of thc Exchequer would persevere in the measuire. When -he saw the cross fire to which the right honourable gendle- man was subjecteA. on this subject from themanufacturing and aLJri cultural interests, it remindeA -him- of what Dr. Fr.nklin lad saidrespecting the reception which: his' plan for a militia' re- ceived in America,- 'i By thc royalist," said the doctor, my plan was thought too demrocratical; by the democrats it was consider- *ed to be too favourable to the royalists: I therefore thought that as the plan displeased both parties it must be right." Sir G. SH1IFFNER supported the bill, as we understood. -Mr. CRIPPS said he would state his objections to -the mieasure inithe committee. - Mr. H. DAVIS contended that the measure contemplated oy the Chancellor of the Exchequer was both partial. and unjust. He likewise insisted that if the exportation of long wool were permittd, the manufacturers of Germany wvould soon rival us in the manufac- ture of it. - lndebd, he was aware that several large orders for it had been already ttansmitted to this country from Germany, under the iden-that the laws prohibiting the exportation of this kind of wool would be immediately repealed. The House then resolved itself into the proposed committee, nlr. BROGmDEx being in the chair. : On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, the preamnble of the bill was,postponed.- ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHIEQUER said, that the would now explain the method which he intended to adoptvwith regard to the discussion o f this bill- Instead of-entering into a re- neraldescription of its-details, he should confine himself to making such observations upon eachof its clauses as appeared necessarv to dm when it came under the consideration of -the. committee. The first clause repealed all duties on the import of wool after the lOth of September ne xt; so that the question naturally arose upon it, " liras it, or was it not, fitting to make any alteration in theni ?" It did not, however, Hix the quantum of duties which it might be. necessary to *e-.enact, in case the repeal of -all of- them. were carried,- it onlv left blankxs, which he would propose-to fill up, supposing the, commaietee-should determine -to discontinue eniirely, after a certain period, the existing rate of them; }lis proposition was so repeal the impaert duty of Sd. per lb. on wool, after the 10th of September; then to re-enact a duty of 3d. per Ib. from that time to the IHtb of Decemnber, when he woulld again reduce it, anld leave it at the- rate-where he intended that it should remain. That part of the subject ise should, hov.ever, discuss in anotber'dause: lie wouldl nowv -merely propose to -fill up the first -blank -in the bill, by the words, "1lO h day of Septemnber, 1824." The honour.tble memtber for Sussex, he expected, would oppose this proposition, a s be had alre-s1dy -declared hiniself hostile to any alteration in the imnport dunzes. Tke hon. member had given-as a reason -forihis hostility, that he w;as not inclined.eo tamper with the long este.bltsh. -ed practice of our ancestors in imposing these duties. Thle hon. member was, howverer, mistaken in his facts; these duties were aot thde esatiblished practice, but rather an innovation on the established 'practice of our ancestors. The duty of ?d, per lb. on imported -wcoblnever existed till 18l19; for up to that time it had only been Id. per lb. Uader that small quanturm of duty the wool trade had greatly dlourished; and, indeed, within the last quarter ofa en tury4 the growth of-wool itself had much increased. Hle- tefore trust-ed that lieslshbld have no diffiduiltyin'convincing the commnittee -of the propriety of coucurringin 'tbereduction of duty he intended 'o propose--a redutctibn' which he demonstrated to be equally con-. dutchec to the' interest of the growver and the manufacturir. - With regard to the time' at which this red-dction of duty was -to takc 'place, he -contended that there was nothing: - esther -par.. tiat or unjust- in that which he hid 6elected. 'th1e two dates with' which he intended' to Sill -up 'the blanks of. this bill, wtre the very dates which hnd been recommended, to himn by 'the ceQs- -miSter of wvool-manufacturers in l/ondois-a body of men, whoml he believedl to be the general organs of the trade throughout the country. He bad origuinally intendedl tlmt'the present duties shohld cease on-the 5th of 3uly; buxt that intention lie haid altered ma con. sequweneof their informning'him thaLt that -time was -too near, and chat the adoption of it would throw- the whole trade into confusion. They then divided th-etime into'the two' divisions which he lhad ie- term-ined to adlopt, ap i seeinled perfectly satisfied wlien he iufdrrned tliem of that determinatiOn. A -newv lightt, however, burst inuo tbent the moment tbey heard of the arr4itgernent 'made-bv Paria- ransii with the silk4rade. They theud told liim thtat it would be better for thiv trade if he wouXld shorten the time,and allow thetmadnswback 'on tlie stock inhnnd,atthesarneitirnplellig semioznelves to him,sthat p-ronsrlhobadSefeived the inpnufa*ctured;voolwvduddnot-grutmble at all at this -nfrangemedT. I[bhim'5elf thous-ht. diTsrendy, dn'd told them so; -ind2tie result-prved that hewvas right, and that they were wrong,- He icouldtinV howeiei; cbuXsesst la thte proposition which tbey then madehit -beCause jt tvas'obvious -bati heil tbiere would be no--eaddto tne exipehso anid confusion wbichitwoutsIt occasion. Bcsiides, hefelt-ii difflcalty in: proposingr tEte bill intits -present shape, beradse th:e times fixed in it wvere the tirsies fixedIay those who were sssbstirmterested in the trsdC: a nd he wats sure tba~t - tbe.:e'bad b'eeh aniy: -thuisg-injursous tO thenselves itt the dates, theji would niver:have ~fixed them -as they had dona. -He, therefore, had no--hesitation- in- proposiuik that the! fs;st:blank should be, -tlled up with-tlie 10th: tiay-of epsemb r,-and the next with the IOt a of December, 1824. ---- : - : . - - - r r _. h da N r. BRIGHIT complained that theport of-Bristoldid not ontasi-r suffldieni rootn for-the warehousing of ixunided *oot, and sallod is et thie-Uhaniwildr -of 'tbe 'Eyeheouer- to- framne- X ciiqse,*hficb-webld -make a dissinctioss between--wools' an bondedi wdrehotusesj which had- 'not paid- the: duty '?ani whiehi wrould 'tberefore'- cise- oat-duty -free; andt --oolsy--whmchs being- an merchants' ivare. houses; miust-have psid' -she- duty, and m'ust conseo,uiently subje'et theo;rners -of them to loss;, if-their teas re'not tpecslall -consider, ed;: He-cobtended that the (Jhaneellor of the iExcheg,uer ought to' ptay baek the duty upon suchl wool as wa-ssnsol4 lr merchantol warer bouset o,n the4vahe-habd'n3enttinp4 :4u mtnj,yof'}iis qonstitunts wbrelifksly- otsff'ermusderihe proposed arr*ulgemesst, i-e trustted that the Chruicltor of miscExchequier 'ould make sOme ltisnclstion be- tween thtc mercnanti-importer, antd th" mamiftetbrer He- was of opi- nion thas thg longer tispeXeriofi t~ eforrt the better:it would be to nlt -pa'rtles.' ,:: ;: '-- - '-Mr.Hn; DAVIS eenlndisl that' grous'p'aiiatitiy:ha-been shon ,tb the:alk.trade, and'groiA fteglct'lo the woolfriaded, though itjwas .the ancient staple of the tountry X500,000-had bdehohieded.tq the' silk.trade; butt the only cuncession inad'e'to'tlhe *ool-trde: ias rto have i t the burdeis:' under --which it- labored pontinue4l for five' nionthslonger. He hoped that the Chai,eUlo of- -the-.Exche4uer would4-conesnt to shorltle t mhe,"a'snd woobI give ' dra*back to. the m,anufacturer upbn Al. the wool -he should harn hddpon its-arrival,- *- - - :; :, : : - in- -h Ailr. BENETT contended,: th.Lt if,tlie Chanellor of the Ex. chequer- consen ted togive ti manufacturer a - drawback -upon the wool.whichbehadion hand, he ought-also to give.thefarmer-adrgwt back .upon, the wool which he-had on -his sheejNs back, and the linbn;drapera'rldrawbick-uponalI th,e Mnufsctrcd,woothehad. In Isis Isso. Air. CUWTEIS hoped that the Chanellor oi the E;xchequer, if he determined to repeal tbese duties, would sot alowa drawbk He considered the manufacturtrs not to be atal entited to it The blanks in the clause were then flUed up in the manmer pro. posed by she Chancellor of the Exchequer. kbrie eer '.tha ' he j*.no .oae1.eoEte qlintu edi-thesh dotrevioss *iiihisetoblentionh"': pen ?h.efe Toisid be whenthe= iou e'~nji~ie~y t's tiw lnl~can~oineth begmO ftde oifle uett enn w iaythe day d''y_pA 6a siedau.t r bpn Slwe gameor- tn o_ v,gbld eitensupad s,ths ethiso'b conP.tent ;tinstihrun st;on-hvsa- anydtmg odo wihtcqlsinOFreie'ig free whiahtevr Thad ?ioeduf ett. ere a P'bu to gicforingnr thlserawe materra, o h ivvas tobeven toothe is -'riab trrin rtur. Ituas 11I-hatidi sd'ta'smaac'ol gie ahvantagous ho the uricultuah interest Thuf he'de 50O41'AtcfsayAthat b ld I1), -er n1r. H.S S NE Rideclared his iiuedt eo wooDlrenable WIthe R ma l,'tre toa tork u * a f cni*'quarer aof id;'alo ine wol and if thcalsra wooldwereexrred,thyi feorne1~u wool must neieasatri ade r tsd i pdee. The 'o.. l oeroment ld be ble or finc aorry' it vi ew upon this question into ful effect. a hd thc. mom ent ere he go into an o r iitoricf p a sing thatrtidz h wonul pended teial of.oa meanuacturehn. Whe expOrtatin of the and anteoisn o S y pa;r.C-,t T 4l 9 ppsd h cij B e was waifin$ with~lm- hotinoae;~ mem~Ar garguient. n sir.oulf the propostionv, that we Wrignere tfrr ng fiOtberiat inafacturers in glysng-t,e fo. ltY pri.ce?,.Anylandvrhatever. fon hhllr aeletonosume theth whofln wlienever tyad wk-f, manlethey orn.. inodity- tr b ....... I w fa, .* table to fthexprtaftionof yarn Maermrim"a.aB'lr'DGE, Sl , 11iBE24kTT, Mn Ste. WOThie oslfataers abroadere nbot, sauntipesent read wtha h.s, havhingr few. rk .gp tisd jooii actp they nirepenct wafisrhc shoud ve t his a rcl espo j,'d;'-lf rexp'i'rtnlonwrecatrall cladvbetaget shoud e (at surch a. rate aenieal''-srvldt gi5e prp sdedded arrnc tand trotecwionto thp gisfi ied,io'en * it, trael-ook ed uon.rhcipropoeidty, an.d. pcier' lbashnorecprotcityo whatever. *eHe hovermEnt. were a ver foreigs thais 'oa matea bt' its was be givenr the Englis turn actt turer Inaeturn.oIt w, however, sad- o hftTb tbiM 'is ald be advata gos, the nt Fcultura interest. Thiiba lie de- nied: z nd h . d id s this groundxisat4every pound OF long wool enabled the' manufoctuer to work up a cerwtin quantity of itferior fine wool, and -if the lonam eool were exported, the in- ferior fine wool mustnecessrtily.eureduced in price. Thelued forier had-plenty of inferior fine swool'c alLohe . antcd was the English ong woel ; and' tthe moment hie got an optortlnity of puirchasing that-article,lie would become the rival of-our- ':anufaturers Who comaplained of the price and value of this long wool? Surely the honourable member fmr Lincolnshire twould not deny, that of all agricultural productionos - -ong wool was., tohe -most' faluable for xts 4ice,a? ,.Any lanrd vwhatever, on- wbich -lfonrtwholledshe themanufreared' was extrpaielyc valuable, an amthply =aid aUl expenses. The, foireigher had -en'dea'vjou'red ~'snuch as possible, to cultivate this description of wool, aind- o-ihrld oet that ot finer quality. He hadnfaile however;- anid. were they to-assist him in e Sectink. this object? Some gentemen were -*tb ta O the exportation of yarn formted from this wool; butto thit he also obj ceted. The mrucusincturrsabr6d were - not, at present, ready with machinery to work. up this woolj' but they- were perfectly ready to nake use of the prepqred yarn':, therefore lie aid.'not wish td bave this, a-ticle orc l tei. - Jf exp-p'ortiati's wn'were at al allo'*ed., it should; be at such a- rwte- f'uis would. gi'~e a deided preference and protection to the Englishlina ti 'lu'rer and. he looked upoldi ta re ropioseaduty 0f rd.i-per ht in e oT protection whatever. -He'haopedf,-fthis nmeasureewer secriedi that his consti.. ouents, the inanufaicturers, would -fnd they had: not-formed a wrong estiate of its effcts;t but he feared the iontr,ry would turn out to be the case. A sort ofinripression hn~dgone fbrth,that this alterationt was in ugtisomn with. the rtinciples of ufl made''a e 'co mmezca liberality.' This, hecontend&d, i~us.pot thifAct,btcause.:thera was sourecipstyornec w ith i Astb this. country fpossessed theifw materialnpn.similaritytcold b'e rsaid to existbetweein thiabraseb of nanufacture,and that a othon,orefany other descrptio-ofarticle, tderaw .atedial of which we had not in'or Rwn hanR - An honourableAli1Bnai, whose na'me v~e cbuld?sot obtain, saidl it- wvas -very-hard, after -thecountry gentlemen-had laboured for 20) yecar.s ctiriiproyp this particular specie's of sh'ee'. tli't(thgy' sh'ould nowa inoo, ua -great measure, ire ielefi.of their e-ertions.- He hopid,thereore, that the hoisei wouldlalefuat the propositifn of theo Chancellor of; the Exchequer. - . - -. tI Lord MILTON said, that some gciitleen hbnad treated thist-a a question betweentheslandlord and e'in ithir'ert'i the %lch a view of thr io sre t ' iee.,te eal.qtiestion. T -clautse now under consderat wase tion itoE intedea fort-the- be.. nefit of the landlord, neitler was it -intended for the- befi&ftl of, the manufacturer,as those two parties were contradtstinguishae Btrthe each other. - JIn Iis opinion.; all clnes would ultittat tble ;anP of vantagte fnd )rom it. (Hearm' Anery pltn ofm tiermbeiTthe1 ould ireturn .Tts it t reciprocityiprboc s:he u o~tik-ity f$C 'without reiorting to theatf foete tr bos. colleagueroe&r, S.- rpositien tohtad, to us th sa ofeaut~heigioW,bca qwere t- extend them-;abut , s eurely thcxio ' ' u tw ea nthe dit3of )did ior krhw a nth liferhis, commodityabreollag, witor~ n olif, arid'ahy'.WAbl SD long--aScomnet erae bwereup ortf -*bere. afore h wol t,tlsou ntmanotamakingl 7arclo commrcwiltretis on:c athe. Y~ igti would neverla allows,becus hewafcovieed tharecipriocitys of( luben a . iehetrsc4wihu eotn to tha nobopsoe,theyode. tIlar - i o.cllau .S an- Woroly) ltr akswing stongadhnuai tn gis h aellyr, hrampd, ind- fact.glive ut gothewd othqeso,bcas- sueasadhat bed,ta inas ghre~spatinubrfyes, oi'f quittr thoe stawe, the re ih of olw e a honourable colleaguhe- or.mpdurinhg ~ r urnth ' oh whic th wmlen fixtures, m-owne lie,s(ridy m yrounger%ldrnttlat bere woul ad be a lre prtto,0 'o, o -hat t eprae werencapitmal, zidut si,an cesr amtrtongsthou maond ufac ites tbelwa ~ baeue'r?ter woldneer alfe.lowd frorigne Brs D to id.buythew o therno prps. ,te would .' awaybeie,th alcrampend and.g ft ntered be t.siomtfostMeerigthe .woltrat i acinu, aura asulthat h was res'her gmono f 'wool 'e" ear.) -Pe He-wao good whih nw bloige toit,if.akiegiper001c'lOudl,.thenat, but 'fotrtoerlas, thet artilolywthoeathey bad liehertbcentasdo -highe itcht enabla eane.--e lay poed thore. law',bEcANTs aid theycatVc iie gropth -of this - aeurte, thyonz whchthe wTinfoo n am,5ta urerat mus',Ot necssrilty.dpn fotwireagii prYetriHtyUOir 'Utltht eperodo and easeh wsthoratougIthly pbsad.. dthat' ttimes~ 'pbiinonientwasernet prpr odncefor ;meting tht altatinon,y zo houldb ePthr:whedwelaere.a(-Hear.)n' a-otes,t afte Ora few, words fr o, inr.-Dsoshis oN,t Mr. -ur. S --Bti wand aseMr. tergltinsol beOLSbELEed.... --'- h-:-A-r- Gr.SWOTE roe a aaint cnete,t4teegto,i'obseeretd,.~that,thiea.ent kowasiNethrodcd-without ranvsohcude aatreipoctya pownisfl wfrgthe contene oughtdno,~xiithato b aiLotag'y ht e ih6~h6deje4tbU mt* fo tokhr e olda (alr_Wreanthey)mo-nophe-olyofuaertaas spceso- od setlichen(Mi beloingesoit) iftheiegly,tat thekre;a ometf s Meculirin sadttahenaopi thismasr,themlytwer nogwot llepartingfro'th' aciudentplc'o r this e,ount'y,E utxre ga enyturni#atoitrp. sno' she ehaddbft Restrtio'n- ,it hfd beey the. -lmost desvcriptinle folic, of thusngofotr htop dilr6w ool -to be exported n.tthe;parvnset- e PCCUliriting tTsoi,butyLrt aqv- true, that- a ties rolbitpduetre ooIdividut.- tnprod -twasase why ther.- regulation throuldbchangroed Nowt, t hre (Mr..N bknotheuSheanys-onereason ould,nthaoi add.cue brteontifwAg th 'tbeseant yrna'w"exsentitalt athedx-'eby othee, abeiem:Buttfor or itrre (fsIr-sbce rtl) rraifs' and 't derhonvurrb i,"mblo fvpa'jety o g4,athre, (nMcr.Dcurustanc naeirey, tharfo tul there yas womhuld sow peclia inth sol-ad ehmte-of'blco Mtry-tat er ol thera flockgf woeolled he Linculd..haireabr&ed -u Ifthis-iie,i ahe 'fapesc tweanty o-wre'thuty'as aegpt abroe, whd!icf fierthrv'tee r wa$ -thi~e dsro paticularwsoi ha HO eme-it- haethyrer.eoulf -fecet vescrlTiption. In:q ftin?-, u - Ofl,ai',iso takveay difot onanydoctrineof the-rearing exc-lub id4-1lert,~ on;r, 'u1epS.AnOnTh'srcojad-nueroP'dvuh. 'Att one periodo i-wouldt rvea setd:h-'h-o adplfloreuthnb Ahose ranfiml wa eseniEkoE BTThe being.peof emienc ttdta h a s.vre m-rqe ecetiv g-'ms ~ ~qu onhe wold !-ta , whnthsrestmed,no on ay dctrie o'ree r9ity,bntosritsownxcuity ue160. fsa ror MposingriLgr b was i; that.- t-l-iit _*oAid_be''Qd6d'sftb 'yljtoirejr th6enreiseu Trte of duty. - e did u6t,:knoir tbet'. there "'was ;anY o MA iinte,ibh ofP2d:; but, i't elievent it wold be efdt- mg a copsiderAbile rWductimrlto-tlfie'it fOPtrh%W s'ndsitd-- The Wool--on which lbe'i`poposea thia'duuty'f,-2Wamr-l~ than-- comruimonf!-WOOL- of, thli oidffiagyesc'ipptotigo-,.and i,ori io'east7ai~ fair a. proportin tot% ia, o1 X rWW to: :;-r.:ET DAVeIS:thoelit thatit is-an ineproerd o Al v -oj to take ons t ~eir d u.t t tbet on fer b oti prompourlbryip 1,elsslins. tourghon-aotto bed inlpedobtell.X'Th. -grwtlof ourcolnieet hemaadbdaviery n-rcourag;nent at-the bands of Pgrliament.,but th4 wools of, HlN ldseie'ss.sual t'he dpttof Idpern descrlption. 'Ith a uch'lonmrdte ta that- e woolsh properly so cslled,Ibeauour own clne a nobel ih to e pect the earliest, if not the greateat, remisn Of duy - Sir II1. KNATCRBUJJL, in rising to move,s amendtn~ nte clause before the committee, saidl,hisobject was to establIs aneqe. lity between the duAtes on imaported sud expored woos n oiSAuid therefore move, that the sum of Id. be substitutedin theplace Af per lb. on long wools and coney.wools exported. Afer a fewobservations in favour of, and against, the amendment, From Ar. H0OL3Ie SUM-tNER, MIlr. WH[T-MORE, Sir J. 11nROT- SL'EY, Mr. MANSFIELD, Sir C BUnRPsL, r.-POUTZIAN, 3r. RoaBwsoN MIr CURTEIS. 11r. S. WO'fiTLrY,-SirJ. NEw- POPT, Sir T. ACLA4D, ',r. 1rDNris BnO*; ,Ur: WtDE- SOUsE, DSr. T1. IV1IsoN, aiidl,rd MILTON, The CHA\NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUERsaid,lie originally tbought that this export-duty ahould be Id. instead of 2d per lb. I,hear); and if he vrere aaW'ed to declare his honest opinion, I must confes that he did not n,aw think that- that inten- tion of his was fairly liable-toobjection. (Hear, hear.) But a very nuuretous class ofpersons had submitted tolhimopinionsof adifrer- iet nature *and he thought that when a great - change-i} the com- mercia polic ofa countfrv v4. about to be effected, Parliament was bound-if it could do so consistently with the public interest-to re- spect the aopinions or pgejudize (az soaRe might deem tlhem) of in- dividuals so interested. But ifthe thought that that dutt of 2d was likely to operate as a prohibition upon tho0se who might aesire to ex- rc tbe rawr material, he himself would be the tirst to propose to tec gonme to reject-it. At present, howeverg he saw no reason for de- parting from the rate in the schedulf.namely. 2d. per lb. The house again divided; and the numbers were declared to be- For the ameadiment, 103 I For the original clause, 83 Al tio fir the amendment, 19. nlr. S.WORTLEY amonishetd any one igainst tolling him that the landed interest was weak in that house he especially orba' any Parliamentary reformer from saving in his hearing that the house wanted reform, because the landed interest was not sufficiently re- presented; fcr If they did, he would immediately refer them to the decision of this night to prove the contrary-a decision which would carry the most serious consequences to a vast manufacturing popu- lation. -whom confidence in the existing laws and regulations had lulled into entire security. Afer a few vords from Sir E. KRATCHB3ULL and Ilr. WHIT. 3toRE, the house resumed. The report was bronght up, and ordered to be received on Monday. The other orders of the day were then.disposed of, and the house adjourned at ONE O'CLOCK. lUINORITY WHO VOTED AGAINST THE EXPORTATION OF LONGWMOOL. Bright, H. Mlickinson. W. Mansfield, J. TPilk, C'. A. BEutterwortb, J. Downie. R. Pearse, J. Wlson, T. Blackburn e, J. Kgerton. IV. Plortmais. E2. ii. Wood, Aid. Bridges, id. Gurney. R. Robertson, A. Welis, J. DavLs. H. Heygate, Ald. Thompson- AUd. Wortley, S. -Teller-J. S. Wortiev. HOUSE OF COht rIONS. PTTDAV. MfAV 91. __ KENSiXGTON TURNPIKE TRUST.