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The Times, 1824-06-16T00:00:00

The-Eail df 4jlYEKl!UUb Lntl on tlmejtable,oertn paper1 xec. Islteve to tneafave trade-.: , .,, '; Read i:tbi time snd passed the-public prks- k'fc1ieqer bills' bil; 'th'e British- and irith fisherie bill, the salt dutieM t Wiglits andd ineaures bils =Al the Irish mines-bill . -Lord 111ELVILLE presented a' pettion 'r,o,m tbe sidlbcribeam at tiods gist the xarnoe insurainc,qbilfi - --he restofed peerag& bilts werc ,returned. fropi, the C=ommbna agreed tdS_the :uffbrd peorage beiirbroughtup byrMr. PEEL the Mlar, ;StrathsUan, and K-eninure peerage hlmis by the LoaD AwiV6eA'ra:1of ScoTr",; aild,the ,in peerage,*i by Mr- BXUCE~. Mlr. Bl3rTOa brouight-up-tEe mari,no ibsprurnee bil, anti MIr. BRmE? ttieW eIew urchff hill; ;T ,hbilaswes e read a first '.kie,d thelstter on ithejuotionof LOrd! LIv kRr6b. -who wiye no- tice that he would move the secoit reaing to-,muorrow,. _ - call'their lordships' attentoilton the st,andiug o t Ier4 f'r,' hc puT6e af preparing the suspension_.o? that whichi requiyea. orfCi 0f bilitto 'i:d6mnfttee.before the; second reading. *.The'billfot th featdikg of which he intended to mnahe Is motlois-was the same insubstan:eas those forwohichaheorder b ii'rea.0 siispended. The Earfof LAUD)ERDALaE; 'o'bgeried;: that '-the grourd for suspendin t'ie :oidet for the Irislh mni3es bill *as th'at the only wayy 'of cttiigcopits tbf works. int Ireland (as to give,necouraenent to ,'casurca of thii description : betthe consequence'6f'thus iuspend- I inj j-,&standing order was, that the tablewas. crowdd *AMhMbills of l,ord gJN( was surprised that their lordsiliips'-mnade at idhi'gor- .lersnppareIetl'forid boother purpoeetbanwto-3uspend' thern- They iid betttt deteurmine at once to suspena thiiii for a 'yhole ses5ion. '.' Aftir-soixtofurther-conversation. on the m 'eb between Lords :Hli6Rov~ Lar I,D3RDAt.E, -HQLLAPD, laid teLord CHa- 'CELrLOU the house wvas ordered to bei'suromoned on the notice.: :'The Earl ofIYARNLEYpreiCfltO4 apehtiion from-thjith-bitantS 'of Deptford and lteewicb,infiwour. the aijable Toan seil and rheDukbfAEoL-re.eOtC&.one to tbe. siu.efEct, Atom the workmien and libourers of the Londos Docks. The Esilof LATDERVJAIvE pr,.enten pet!tions against the -equitable ltin bill, frohi certain inhabitati,tshof a great-number of 'plactis.-iz., from Po,i'ur- Brenrtbrd, .StrAiIsord-Bos parish of Chisii Church, Surrey, St. Botolph's, St. Mar)'s; Newington ARl 'Saini',s Flhaim, HaMtneramith, the piarish of St. Andrew's, Wol- born, 'St. iPeorge's, Hanover-sqeare, St. MArpgret,a f.id St. John's, W\5restminster,- Srt John's, Clerkenwell, &c. ' LoidRREDESDA-LE presented.apetition from theet.Tvoration if ih6 RoyalExcbahge insarance Company against the mzrne it- IRISH CATHOLICS . The EDaif DARNLEY rose.to pre&ent the petitio; of whicds he badRiven ndtice'yesterday.: The rarl o'f .ARDWICKE31insvited that -he -hd, the priority 'for a rmotion in-the order of the4at,.f&t3i seond resdig of a bill. The EarI ofD -LAUlW DA?I) .obxrved, that the usual course wasto3 ilo wnoble Irdsto present petitions befor.eother business cane on. Wilsh respete to the order oftheisy-he was not aware that it*ss eritlethd to antu preferecitc. Hehadhimselftor move the ti4ecoad ,eai&ngj two bhMLe wbich stoodint'he ordera of the day. After-souie faither'conversation, LordHAXD`WrXcE dsst9dfio`A pressing his moioin. ' .. l ahehrof DARNLEY then proceeded. The petition wi4cls hehan to preenit'friom'tleRomaai Gathdlics of the county of.blo- 'oaghan was one vliici on'every groundlchImed their lortshp' at- tention, jo c'onsisstencyywith'the instructions he had receiv: e front thc'petitioners au"id *ith his own opihion, heshould hxve that it right, late ii the aiesion ii it now was, to'bave founded some ultc- n'riorSotnolQn'this.petitlon; but'le knew what wag the,general 'eeing.ofthe-house on time subject of the Catholic-usuon,tlecrfore he would'do hmomoie-atprcsent thanimove that tlr* petion l lait .onthe table andi heptirited. ' Theirlordshups.wrerawareofwhatbad icdafy beustaleQon thi's-'subjecu in anTother places ana ons a late occasion in that house' itoble easl-had signified That hie wupldoppose the Catholic.question more than eVer.- Te disapprobation:of zorlny .whobhadheeh friefids of thejuettotroarmse 'from .n topeintrpducetl into a latpetition but from every objection on that score-the pre- se etition ivas free; 'ahnil the Rion;s n Catholics of tbh cpusty of lonaghan htdulways been distintiahed :for. their. loylIty. Ile 'cotultinotiut regrcttat theconductof any part:of the itomant Ca tholic s hould tare | been nude a ground :of objectoi.te the just ;:lairos'of.that body. 'heobj'ettion didmiotappesr to.him to beutill 'foundedi 0On? h0 cont aiy,r h'e -thowghtthat wmat haa pawqed. oughlt to be' in"naddilional reasoni for d'oiim that juaticewbich ie t was the ob3ect.of'tbe Threseflt petition'to obtain, ande:wblh 'emildallay those discontent'5which were thcause 'of e conduct complaied oF. It vas.-indeed,'quite'unreasonable to expecrasir thing -like, perie and rannquIllity in. Ireleinthintil the grievancet of which t.hg op;ulabon. compained sereremosed. This hndalwayazbetn his-opinion; and he should think it:his duty to continue to pressit on their lordsbipa' attentTQn;: .fls umipossble tb'at irelanld could .e much longer Lord.OL'CIRFDE ;N- completely concurred witth hieinobie ffiend in all that ie had itated .a'to the State of Ireland . . . 'Th~e' }arl of LTVERPOOI had'no objection to t'he motion for laying the petition.on the table, but~w61itd,ii`conseq1(enC0 Of-the -in- cnvenience f thae piaeticelseWhe* .s.;o"lsbptsing- printedT. The petUtiri riiaidohi he'tible. - ' : -Ltrd COtCEIEST iiedthe-third'readiri of tAis bill. JIord iE.LVTILIlR stitdlheire were u fewrprovisiiof in~ the bill to which ihe'had somi.fbjetion,n' bufs lie i piptred of.the princ on which it was founde'd, h'asFoOl&botopponeIt. The Ei.E oof LIVERPOVobsefiia .tbht. agirerseo ban nd never been giien,to anytoigntry bi ahAt bwhich.-w3,.con eyed by the -pxesent bil11' Ther: lo,ds ps'i4d pen the al- cly f' s viwibh kj'-'inie.fftiti inteobjis of the nmliraced; a And, a" a.msp mto. the-state-of--the-co.urts in c.isnu htomaungtiss coentrIe, but~Iea'r'ned us c'verypxruir besnehof lqwr.,4nthe CCiii- ncawtlresatato?elaw,tle uvil' liuad eqoity. -The tslens o'f the prons be~tq,'ulfie4 to4;e'an opttoM ttetbjedt,.wrec thius their.ord he i the peset memies *futhersher,emitsit,} iih -o5Y jU> drawn upheg rtf. thmldai*5Is evniie &-theywi 1lt Qpi>l6Rl, iaSeoth ul hc ztbe -The-Duso QR5 . WL osYfIspre ' Othe 3'A\!, bilL ,'i.;SD- -, sereuezdeleiieheJs&im the b ~oeld~ocot aidr-b se , en be ,nh utyot e htiea,id to His ~rfje ,~shieils n.ShtXnd hf b did nottake that vppoitit- , ilteaftw;eraj'ftr W-4- iii"r'. on theith' opemety of ST.P.&C~i T1t4NCE 'O PN' IL LaLAp~~LZ~i~d'R1in f6A~Lr tkted-Ahe notesity of The LORD(~A~iC 1)I~ oh~ri~i'tMtbefar.ti'a bill got into avotiite 'm # e W h~efrst z~the Compan CtANEL( 1w intoe a 3,orntehe: pwud itii ifoSb ortoe borujfthem, [ tdht:,V; aim.l 'hn -L,o&,REKDBb])AJ.aE bjec tot that forallitheirl ke.bitse ilItmgtir u that,,the WOWiuvd tms hepeo h firought it-.faow~t.,-~ ~ ll~~i :,. ~,The Earl-o l~IK5iI-~ oh&u h bill hohs wTed eaTwh; we tbiot t.nnw af eo hern: oxte gintt.eutbtjshblbdeigd said to be fbr the sccomm-oatforn of the poor; yet th; vcY first clase allowed the company to lend to any amount they chare, and ea repealed s to thtem the ooeration o- the usury laws. liany of ttr lordships, he 7Res aware, mnight 'dislike the usury laws, ut e'errc was no reason why this company alone chould be ex- e :'.pted. from their operation. If thdflordships should decide thit the bill should be read- a second tiote, he was prepared irtlha etition praYing that counsel miht beheardin committee =ins- the ca-UstS of the bill: The Earl of LIVERPOOL said he was not aware of theorder to hear counsel against the principle of the bil, as he was nor in the hou-se when it was moved, or he should untloubtedly bave oppoted it. As to the bill itself, his vote for Gr-againstit would depend on tnz pruvisions it contained; forif it came out of the committee in the 'ane it now bore, he should undoubtedly onpose its passing. fhe 63jtec ion urged by the noble lord (LuderLlc) as to the operation of X e bill with respect to the usury law,s, might be removed by an al. taration of the clause in the committee. Unquestionably there W.s no reason why the company shoulda possess any ex- cg1ption of that sort. ffc begged to remind their lordships hattthis3billwas for a great pablicobject. Whetherthatcouldbe attainedh ythebillwasa question l but this was nota.period,he th.olut, t;hes people shoultd be heAeon their ewn interests aganst it. Lrtttgo to a co-nnittee, radthere counsel mizhtbelicard against it.. e was of opinion, therefore,'that the order for hearing counsel n.a.inst the principle of the bill shouled be discharged. The Earl of LAUDERDALE saiid that the doctrine inow de- livered by the noble ea:l-that because arneasure was a public one, thut parties were not to be heard on their own interests-was quite Mi-W tolirn, and dangerous as noveL Such as it was, he was per- suaded the noble lord never thought of it himself til now, nor any other noble lonil either.t The IX)RD C ELOR thought that this vas in every r.snect a private bilL Where a public bill was on their lordshps' able it wa; anrot competent for counsel to be heard againstthie pin. cipe ef it * but if this were aprivatc bill, parties had undoubtedly a ria'it to bc hsea.d aainst it in the present stage. The housethen divided on the question for discharging the order foe Ie_ring counscl against the biU Content, 26 Not content, 17 ajority, 9 On our readmission below the bar, we Mund The Earl of lIAUDERDALE on his legs, warmly opposing the srcond reading of tke bill, s depriving a body of men of their busi- nu.s. for the purpose of givinirit to a companv who, without rmean- ing aiy i;nputation on the individuals composing it, were totally in- The LORD CHANCELLOR said that if this bill came out of the cormnittee as it nowr stood, there was hardly one sentence of it to -which lie diould not feelit his duty to call their lordships' attention. l.rd REDESDALE said he could not consent to the Fecond rzading of the bill. There was one objection which struck him as decisirely azainst it. Pawnbrokers could be Vunisied criminal y; but 'os2 could the .company be Punished criminally ? If a pawn.W broke- tecaivezI stolen goods, he might, for that offence be indicted =nd punished; hut how could the company be procecdeA against in suchl a ease ? If this, and shnilar companies, were estiblished, what a vast influerce would be created; the effect of whieh on the constitationi of the country niight become exceedingly dangerous. lie wmalol seriously exhort the noble carl at the head of the Teaesury to eire this point his consideration before lie consented to the bill. The E3rl of WVESTMllORL,AND only intended to trouble the hause with a few words to express Ihis perfect concurrence in thec en- ftinents of the noble lord (Redesdale) who hadjust sat down. This biul. whilst it pretended to be under the sanction of the nrinciDles of free tride. did in factestablish a monopoly, as it woukl be impossible for individuals to compete with thetse wealthy companies. Tl;e Tuestion was then put, and the house divided, when there ppXcared for the second reading- Content, 171 Not Content, 141 Majority, 3, The bill was accordingly read a second time, and ordered to be co7mriitted on Friday next. Tne bankrupt laws' amendtnent bill went through a committee, and the other bills on their lordships' table were forwarded onestage. . - - -i._ .-- . aPLIAAfERYTf. INELIRC3 hOUSE 01? LORDS AT"3 "i L