Catholic Association.
The Times, 1824-05-24T00:00:00

lir. tioNtwaY ttated, that he had forwarded the peiiiiodij.re to at the lste Aggregate Aceeting to Earl Grey andMRt.'r6oiwn He chen proceeded to read the followving copy of his letter to~0 Brougham, with the antswer from that gentlema,a;slo tt from~~~~Liitd9rey:..... ~tiCL l.6'~ letter ~~ - 44 ~~~~~~Dublitn, -111y C, 182j. Sir,_I am directed by the Catholic A beocliatoa tD transmjf to Ygou,for PresentnLtion,a petition agreed toat the Ago ate. M1eetiagof yafirCatbelics ofl?relanad,eld in this city en the Siay f In committing this petition to. your hands, I ain dedired that it would have been sent long before, had not- the asso S^05 learned that you were on circuit; and feeldig as they. doavery na. tural predilection for the mQst uncompromising- and coergetic ad cate the Catholics of Ireland lave, theyidlthink they wofld le do ing an injustice to themselves an-to tne country, if they-co the petition to the care of any other member of Parliament. . . There are many allegations in the petition which it is likel may be controverted; but the association are astiiedeitha one of them is capableof being verifed. You will'appreciate thediT Siculty of persons plaeed as they are, furnishing cyan atrliamelntbr evidence; hut they rely upon commo0n fame-upoixt the urncontr dicted statements in the public print6, and on the recortlg evei3 of tbe "On the subject of the Irish Church Establishmbent, theydo not feel it necessary to dilate. To any man who has paid the leasc atten tiontolrishlbiturs, that church must raecessarilg6ecupy x foretnost station; to a mind so informed, so fruitful and vigorous, as that of their advocate, the Catholics of Ireland-will notpresumne even to sug geat a topic. o u. "As to the prayerof the petition, they can only expre"s their conviction. that until'some very decdsive nmeasure be adopted, it isIn vain to expect that this country can ever enjoysix successiye Imonths " o t is unnecessaryt hope, for the Catholics of Ireland to reiteate the expression of their gratitude to you, Sir; and it would perhaps be unbecoming for the mdividual whose natie is subscribed to ex. press in adequteeierns-tht admiration which in corrinon with all his countrymen he feels for your talents, eloquelnce.-andublie ser- vices. "I have the honourbe, Sir, ' Ycur most humble and most obedhernt'srvarvt, To Henry Brougham, Esq " PRED. W. CONWAY-." " London, iUay '14, 1824. Sir,-I havejust hadthe honour of receiving; your letter of'the 6th ins. and the petition, which I was delayed m opening foiji is difficult at the Post-office. "I shall lose no time in attending to it, and I hope to be able to write to you upon the subject again to-morrow or Mlonday. " In the mean time I beg leave to express the deep uises whice t entertain of the confidence reposed in mo. " I bave the honour to be, " Your obedient and faithful servant, F. W. Con.way, Esq." " B. BROUOEGAM."I I Hanovcr-squaTe, May 15, 1824.' i Sir, Owing to a delay in the Post-office,occasioned by its-hari. ag been charged, Idid not receive til yesterday the petition whbich by the desire ntthe Catholic Association you have done me the ho- nour of tranSmitting to me. " I have read it witb all the attention it deserves, and hope it is unnecesary for me to add, with all the interest I have ever felt- in endeavouring to restore to the Catholics of Ireland tile full enjoy. ments of all the privileges of our free Constitution; bitt I feel, ty- self bound in fiirness to apprise vou, that the other objects-with which that prayeris connected in the present petition, appear-to meto havebeen at least unnecewarilyintroduced-to be calculated rather to injure than assist your cause; and thatin presenting it to the House of Lords,-I should feel it incumBent on me to declare that theycould not have msy concurrence. As a short delay in presenting.-the peti. twon, on which no measure can be founded during the present- seSg sions, cannot be material, Ihave deternnined to waisibryourariswv'r to thiscommeunicatton.y " This, Ihope, youwilllletrmehaveassoon as convenient, and if it shall inform me that the Catholic body are still desirous that their petition should remain in my hands, I willilose no time in pre- senting it, and ant prepared in domg so, to repeai, in the strongest terms, subject to the qualifications I have already stated. my uas]- terable conviction, that the peace and happiness of Ireland- the ''e neral security of the British empire, enmiientli depend on the entire and speedy repeal of the disqualfy ng lawsy - whichhtbe Catholics feel themselves aggrieved. " have the honour to zemaiti " Your obedienth.umble serVant'l "F. W. Conway, Esq. . . " GRVY:." lllr. CONiVAI then moved, that the letters just read should 'be entered on the minutes, wlich having beeni agreed to, Alr. Conway was about to proceed on other businessi when a%letter arrived from Mr. Brougham, of which the following is acopy:- -- ' "I,ouond, Alay 17,"iti1. 'Sir,-_ have now had an opportunity of perasing imd.copsi*er. ing the petition vhich the Catholic Association haVe done she the honour to put into my hands; anl I am bound in faiiness to tate that I cannot agree with some'of the opinions expressed in itand that there are parts of the praver which am not prepared to support But I trust it is unnecessary for me to add, - that I feel most strongly the necessity of restoring to the Catholics the full benefits, of the Constitution. And I am wifling to present the petition ge- nerally, and to second it upon that ground, signifying that in some respects I differ with the petitioners. " While I may regret that they have now so far increased theirt demands,I am not insensible to the treatinentthey have experienced-' for so many years,and to its batural consequences; and if, after this. candid declaration of myopinioril; they thinik fit to' comm,,and my. services, I shall assist them to the:utmost of my power, and accord4 inmto my judgment. . V I am extremely sensible of the honour which they have on:I ferredupon me, and I beg you, Sir, to-accdpL.mj_th;nl,es far-.-the kind expressious with whieh you haive accompanied tlheirlupplication. 'I have the honour to be, " Your obedient huniblc servant To F. AV. Conway, Esq. . " H. BROUG.4A51.' }Hr. O'CONNELL imoved, that the Secretary be instructed to vrite to Lord Grey an:l Ir. Brongham, requesting of them 'to pre- sent the petition in its present form; an4 if they cannot. anpprove of the v hole of its prayer; that they vill suppcrt as much of it as Alr. lKSltWAN seconded the motion, wvhich was -carried unani- CATHOLiC ASSOC.TJ. DUBLIN. AAY 19.