Ireland.
The Times, 1824-12-25T00:00:00

k s . (From the D,TblitF Rvening PoSt fkf T-Auv.. l ,zorrierr-inmu,a st or agitto, on learnig P~sron, the circumstances detailed inl the olwn aarps We o thinkc, for our owrn part, that mueh gtreater stress boa been laid emH thAis Circumstance than it mnerits. It appears that certain wordn are im?puted to Mir. O'Connell, as hayngbeen uttered by that ventleman in the Catholic A ssociation.Weblvettalth pubic ournals have given different versions of these words, anid wdoubt whether any of the reports are accurate. At all events, th seech of Mfr. O'Connell must, we certa nly ahould think, be -takert an a whole; and really it would be very difficult for the In- ,fornicr in this case, whoever he miay be to prove that Mfr. O'Con- ne!l'o:speech was seditious. The truthis, that if he had evencehown a dis-poition of the kind imputedi to him, he would not find atn au- ditory to listen to him. Whbatever vilay be said of the Association, ii must Iso allowed it has been hithe'rto conducted withi mautchless prudence, and it woDuld be injustice to il1r. O'42onr,ell to deny, that he has not been, on all occasions, the advocate of this cautious Policy, as well1, indleed, ats of the Government of Lord Wellesley. Those persons, at afl eventis, we are quite certain, will be disappointed who .augu r, from this circumsttance, soy change in the principlee or Son- nessi. justice, and moderation, which have, heretofore, d1tingU=ted the Government of the Lord Lieutenatnt. At. about halfp.yast five o'clock yesterday evening, as Mlr. O'Con- nell had jusat retur-ned from the commnittee of the Catholic Aseocia- eion, where a ereat deal of business had been transacted, Alderman Darley and IVIr. Farrell, the constable of polic,wee ushered into hbis study. After the usual salutations, the Alder=a said, that he camne in hia official capacity, to save Mr. O'ConoaellI the trouble of atteniding at the Police-office, to enter Into a recognizance to appear at tI-e next Sessions, which he was directed by the Attorney-General to WId on Air. O'Connell to enter into. .4r. O'Connell-Upon what chatrge,Mr. Alderman? Atldermnan Darley~.Upon a charge of having spolken seditious werdsl at the last meeting of the Catholic AssGelatlon. Mr. O'Connell.-..What word3 am I chatrged with having spoken ? Alderman Darley.-1 are not at liberty to inform you ; you moust RI . OConell-Ca Ieven know the nawme of the informer ? Alderman Darley.-I am not at liberty to tell You ;You must apply to a higher quarter ; I come merely to Inform vou, that legal doct-teents have been laid befo-re me, that entitle me to require from -you a recognizance to appear at the next Sessions. I wish to give you the least posstible trouble. I have come to your own hiouse for that purpose, and I will take your own recognizance without requir- ing any person to join you. ll[r. O'Conanell.....Then, Mlr. Alderman, I submit at Once. I will enter into the recognizance, as I am not to know for what ; and I am 'bouind to say, that you have done your part with perf ect politeness ,2AI Xra then produced a recognizance, conditioned to ap- periit th" ensu4ing Quarter Sessions, to commence the 2dorSd of Nariuary-,we do not kinow which. This recognozance Mir. O'Connell exomted, b%t roid. " Why, Mlr. Alderman, this dlirectly interferes with my Intcren iled 'rney to England ; could you not takefit, as there are as yet no bIlls found, for the Sessions after next, or for the Ali!'2n Darley....I have no discretion upon that subject : upon tt,k'b o at pl t h Atr enieoral. IL' OCzel(sii).T reionthing you'll admit, Mir. Al4iern..ta h etmyOnrlwlave no difficulty in get. ain Gn uyt id n il eplases against me. Th lemnmd orpy uh and MNr. O'Connell shook hand o atd HEAD OFFICE. ThIs duy several of the reporters for the morning papers re- ,tel"edraetices to attend at the Police-office, Palaee.strcet, to give testimony as to the. words usedl by Aur. O'Connell at the late meet- ing of the Association. fr. Vonsden, reporter for the Mortzling Post, was called in and questioned by Alderman Darlev, as to whether he was present at the mneeting in question ?-Mlr. Vousden admitted that he was pre- sent. The Alderman then questioned him as to the precise wordis rnade use of on that dav- in reference to 1Bolivar and Southi America M1r. Vourden replied, ?hat lie had not his notes bv hiim, that he had no -iccumEte recollection on the suibject, anti tliat, even if he had, he dlid not think that the press was the inedium through which the buelnems of a comnmon i nformer was to he transacted. M.r. Vousden wus tien casked itf Air. Charles O'Flaherty was3 pretent? AMr. Vousdesi replied that hie was. The Mlagistrate then asked, If he w2a present at the period Air. O'Connell spoke of Eo- I[var ? M8r. Vousden replied, that he did not kcnow ; thlat Mlr. 071laberty was quite competent to answer for himself ; and that he our-posed he would, in courtesy, to the Mlagistrates, attend on the leutte which the magistrates, addiressed to him. Air. Vousdien thien withdrew. Mir. J. H. L~eech, Mfr. Haydn, antI his reporter, Mir. Byrne, Ali. Bric, end another gentleman of the bar, then enterted thec office together. The Magistrate asked Mr. Bric if he wvere summoned?P To which Dlt. Brie replied in the negative. Aldermian Darley.-This is a private information, and it is re. quese -htcvry one not summoned may wiuthdraw. Mr. Haydn was askied if ha were summoned, or the gentlemen who accompanied him? Air. Madyn replied in the negative, and th~ n fthe gentlemen was a barrier, who attended on his belitalf, and the other hiis reporter. Mir. Haiydn further remarked, thatt he came there to protest sagainst his reporter giving any infor- metion whatever on the subject, or in anv manner ben acces- SOry to the purpose of the Attorney.General. Mlr. HJaydn, his rc- po:-tcr, and the barrister (whose name we did not learn) then s-`kitrew. .4r. J. H. Leechl, reporter to the Fr-eman's Journal, and Air. Elrington, reporter to *Waunders't News L.etter, remained iii the room. Mlr. Leech was asked by Mtr. Graves if he attendled the meeting of the Association on Saturday last ? Mr. Leech replied in thr' negative. Alderman D.Arley.-The meeting on Thursday we mean. M~r. Leech.-Ycs, I attended thle meeting on ?ihursday- Alderman Darlcv.-IJo you recollect reportinas the speech of Mfr. O'Connell ? Air. Leech..-Mr. O'Connellimade several speeches. Alge&man DArley.-The speech about Souith America and Boli- xar, I allude to. Mr. Leech.-That speech dlid not appear in theFreemnwt'sJo,Arnal. Alderman Daryley.-Tlhat is not the qutestion I asked you. What I dlesire to know is, id you take notes of that part of the speech re- lqn-cting South America ? Mlr. Leech.-I really c-annot say whetlier I (lid or not, withiout re- fer ring to my note-hook, whichi I lhavc not got about me. Aldermen Darley.-! see the gentlemien of the press have no dis- position tto give us any informationi on thiis subject, and if we should tit ink it necesary to examine thiem more fully, we shall resort to tuec usual legal method. Tuirning to Mr. Elringtots, tue magistrate then sa-d, " Mr. Elrington, it is not necessary to examiine you in this otage of the business." M1r. Chiarles O'Filaherev, reporter for the AMornitng Post, was ques- ticned as to the report thiut appeared in that paper. He said that the words as reported in that papier were substanttively correct. The wo rds Itaving been repeatedt to him, he replied, they were the samne as reported in the Aforninn Post (one of the magistrates took down the wvords alluded to), and' that he was the personi who reported the proceedings. Mlr. P. D. Hlardy, of the Ir-is/s Times, atid Mfr. Elringztott, ef Scunindrr's Ne-w-s.Letter,were siubseqluently- examinedl, but the result of their tes-timony hias not transpireil. [Fromi the Morninig Re.ei ter of Tur%day.1 SECOND EDITION.-MuR. O'CONN8d,.i The "1seditious" words imputed to AMr. O'Connell appearedt in Sounders's Newt--ftier. They are foul misrepresenttibons of the real expressitons usted by thie learned gentleman, and we are this in- staint inforined that he has caused a writ to be serVed On the editor of thle paper. [From the Morning Register of Wednesday.] THE CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION, We have juist learned, that summonses have been irsited by the Blagistrates of'thle heatd Police-office, anti served upon tlte reporters of several of thec morning papers, reqjuiring thiem to appear at twelve o'clock this da, to be examined tocingz ttire proceedings of the Guetholic Assocyiation,"On theWIt)h o'ftDecember ins3tant. The sum. monses further require, that the reporters shall bring with them titeir notes of time several speeches madle at the As,sociation on that day. It is a curious circumnstance that sumnmonses liave been issued and served on the several reporters of all the miorningr papers of Dublin ea,cept one. And what paper is thiat ? Whv, the paper that hag bfLen distinguistied above all others for givinig the most laborious arid ample procceedings of thec Association-the Mrorning Register, atid which had actually four reporters in attenidance on the miemor- abile 16th of Decemiber. (Fromi dlie Dutblin Freeman's Journal of Wednesday.) M1R. O'CONNELL. Mtr. O'Connell was held to bail on Monday evening to answer a chiarge of having uttered seditious expressions at the Caltholic Asso- d.ation. The prosecution is ina.titutetl by theAttorney..General,and thec ChiefAMagistrate ot'Police, Alderman Darley, was thepe'rson to, whom thle ituty of placeing Mr. O'Connell under recognizances was confi9ded. Nobody co)uld have ttischarged it in amore correct or gentlenatnlikenmanner. The particulars arcegiven elsewlhere. It is understood that thtis proceedling has taklen place rn conse. qienice erfa particular allusion to Bolivar, sar'l to liave been muwde by .ltdrO'Gonnell, at the meeting of the Association on Thuirsday last. 'Ibhe reports of the speeChi in which the allusion was contiained are at variance wvithi ea.ch other, and the accuracy of thie whole hag beeni q,iestioned. That upon witicir the prosecution is said to hinge- namely Vouttdrrs's report, has been in an especial m-anner imnpugn- ci. LIt lo piossible, therefore, that the exact words of Mr. O'Con- nell [lave not been givEn to the public at all. Wlten we recollect tlv'~"-~~sataes nde wheltreprtsare taken at crowded puiblic th at ihwihte are afterwards transcribed frt-tz!ltr f onn ess", and the verv diffrent bear. irrgwhlc chages apprenty evry inute, in th& form-i of expres- a.o,wil gve o te snminens o anorator, tltisconjtctutedocs Bu3tt even if the accuracy oft'ime repr, whichi is saidI to he relied Uplwrproved, (notesotfadmirto ant(i all, for Sauntders intro- i.=no ass-- than seven of mth-s exprssiv -naks, we -omites .v eould be at a loss to discover the Nedition, takinF the report as a v.hole-the only fair and legal way of takinig it-with Its riumerous Iaving clauses. It is right. however, we shouild add, that the Atort- r g ferst declares this rcport to be " a foul inisrcpresentation." The occurrencc has createti a great sensation in town, and one wvhich *will be felt all over the country to itg remotest extremities. '(et it is not an event to whidli we attach ntuch importance.Who that i'nows Mr. O'Connell can for a moment suppbse that lie could in- t.rnd to utter seditious language-and where is there a better jud'ge of what is, and whatis not, a violatioti of law? ? THE IIt5SSIoN TO ENGLAND.-'he Deputation to England fromn the Irish Catlolic Association have receiveel a vcry pressing letter from the Secretaries of the Preston Catholic Association, in. viting them to visit that towvn, which conttins ttinc t/housatd Ca- tholics in a population of thir ty thoriand persons.-Vtblin IreC- nan'e Jolurnat ROBBERY OF An3ts_QuEEN'g COUNTY.)-On Friday nighit last seven or cigirt men arned, witl their tac(sblackencd,brolce into the house of Mr. Robert Burnett, of Fiiherstown, by the rcar, and foreed the servants inito the I'ront parlour, where Alr. and Airs. Bnr. nett were, in which they shut them all up, ai(tl procceded up stairs 10 his bed-chaimber, where they took one musket, two cases of pis- l]s,trwo swords, and o peurder-horn: and after searching another roonl, where his grand-an lay asleep, wititout awaking him, they ieparted, without offcring atty violence or demanding or taking off aUnv other article whatsoever. It Is much to b-cregrette' tulit sutch I anoutrac shouli contience in tits hitlterto peaceable county._ .Preeman'e -Journal. CATSiOLIC Rt.:NT.-Therent, it in non- universally adnmittedI bv !he enemier as well as the friends of that measure, is likely to provc i? most powerful instruttent in effecting the legitimate objects of thc Asodiation. The greatedt attention is, therefore, given to its exten- sdon. The Finance (ommittee oits 8aily for this purpose, atfCoyne's, in Capel-street, and lI r. O'Connell, amidqt his multifarious pursuits, devotea two hours every day to the details of this measure. It is his opinion, and that of the Finance Committee, that one-fifth of Ireland ls not yet put in a course of contribution. The collection for the month of November exceeded 3,0001., which is at the rate of 36,0001. a year. A cotemporary in this city. some time since, contemplated this amount of contribution with excessive alarm-an alarm re-echoed by the Courier; but, viewing with satisfaction the legal and consti- tutional objects to which the rent is intended to be applicable, we have the gratification to state, we consider It highly probable its an- nual amount will reach l50,OOO1. a year.-Cork SM14-errz Reporter IRELA ND. A~ "m_ ARREST OF IR. O'CONNELL.