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retElions, praving for the abolition of slavery in the WVest Indies, Vere presented by Mr. TREaMATNE, fronm Bodmlin * bv Mr. DRtAKE, from Amoersham; by Ml1r. CAVEX DTSII BRADSItAW. from Brackley; byD Mr. Custwex, f'rom lHelsington, by Mr. LAWLEY, from Atherstone; bv Mr. l4;GFtTON, from Stockport. Hetton Mersey, &c.: and by 'Mr. N. CALVERT. from 'Ware. They were severailvordered tobe laid on the tahle,and to be printed. tlfr. BLACK3BURN presented. a petition from the inhabitants of Lascaster against the silk bill. The hon. member also presentedI a petitioii from Rossendale, against the exportation of long wool. Mr. LEGH-KECK preseniedl a petition from thelicettsed vict - ailers of' Loughborough, praying a repeal of the duties on licences. A simiiar petition was presented by Mr. LA M'LE Y, from Nui. - eaton. Colonel PALMER presenteil a petition fromii the inhab!itants of' tshe parish of St. Peter and St. Paul, in the city of Bath, praying for a repeal of the assessed taxes, and complaining of the manner in which the collectors of such taxes are appointed. The hon. member also presented a petition from the carriers and others of Bath, against the hides regulation bill. .Mr. HUAI F wished to know who had the charge of this bill, and the titne at which it was to be broitght before the house. It was full of absurdities, and he did not doubt would be dismissed, as it deserv- c4 tobe, aron-as it should be fully explained. Mr. ELLIC1i) thought his hon. friend would accomplish the ob- ject he had in view the mnore readily, by permittirig the bill to take its course. Alderman WOOD said a few words in favour of repealinig the present laws, and letting every man take care of his own property in the way he thouaht most advisable. Mr. LITTLETON tlouglht it nrould be advisable to repeal tbie existing revulations, but he should feel it his duty, witenever the opportunity offered, to endeavour toprocure the rejection ofthe vex- atious mocle of inspecting hides proposed by the bill. After a short conversation, in which Mr. S. WonTLr.PY, Mr. BENETT, MIr. H-mrE, andl Mr. BaeTGHT took part, the petition was onlered5 to iie OD the table. MIr. H UM E presenited a petition fromn the journeymen beot and shoemakers of Liverpool, against the combination laws. Sir. J. NEWV'PORT presented a petition from the inhabitants of Dublin, praying for an inqairy into the abuses of local taxation. At ter a few wnrds fron Mr. ELLIs,ti1e petition wlas ordered to lie on the table. and to be printed. Mlr. S. RiCE presented a petition from the city of Limerick, against the proposed regulations of tbe linen-trade. This subject was, he saii, ofthe greatest importance to Ireland, because it was by the encouragement of the Iinen-imaniufactures of that country that the existing distress could be best relieved and finallv removed. In the city of Cork alone, 40,000 persons were etnployed in this manu- facture, but so mischievous hadl been the effecL of the proposal to take off die bounties, thlt the sales of coarse linens there had decreased since that propasal was made, from 8001. to 1,0001. a-week. It was to be apprehended that the expressed inten- tion of (Jovetnment woald prove still iuore mischievous, ceming at the period for sowing the flax, that the quantity would be checked, and thle pTOduce diminished. The pettion- ers prayed that the house wouldi not be induced incautiouCl- to take the steps they contemplated. The only information of wAaich the house was in possession had proceeded from the report of a com- mittce, wlhich, so far from recommending the reduction of the drat,- ba ck, stated distinctly that they could not be taken off without ap- prehensions of the most alarming consequences. Upon the rising rovinees of lunater and Connaught, lie feared the measure would n,ave the most erniions influence ; and he was informed, that upon one cstate in the south of Iveland (that of L ord Shannon, whose en- deavotirs to anieliorate the condition of the lowver classes of liis tenantry made him one of the most valuable proprietors there). MO persons nonv in employment must'e thrown out ef it. The petition only prayvel that an inquiry uld be instituteo, and he thought, uncier the circumstances, so reasoiinable a prayer could not be refused. Colonel TRENCH said lie had received communications similar in effect to the statemen. made by his hon. friend, attd he believed that if the proposed regulations were carried into effcct, its conse- quence would be to reduce considerable distress in hreland. He again reqluested the ancelltr of the Exchequer once more to con- sider his proposed measure; for he was quite sure that if, as he an. prehenided it would, it shouid extingu i3h this branch of trade, uttsr ruin to the particular classes of reland he had spoken of would follow. The petition was then brought up and read. It was froms the Chamn ber of Commerce, &c., of the city of Limerick. Sir H. PARNELL felt much regret in rising to express a difier- cr.ce of opinion on this suJbject from is hon. friend, who was known to feel go warmly aboout the matter. If he 'sQuld exaYmne the questiou of the proposed repeal of those bounties more tuinutely, the hotn. gent. weuld cettainly form a dif'erent estimate of its effects. Sir JOHIN NEWVPORT wi.shed the prayer of this petition [to be calmly and dispassionately discussed, before the house deter mined on carrying into execution the proposed metasure. Sir 1L FI1RiGUSSON said, the linen-miianufacturers of Scotland were qtuite satisfied with the statement of the Chanceilor of tlhe Ex- chequer's intentions; and con.%idered that the trade would go on, quite as well without, as with the bounties. He th ought this peti. t'on was raising a mere -lieatd cry agaittst highly advantageous pro- positions. Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD defended the language of the pe- tition, which was most temperate anid modest, and little deservingi oihtlle ,,aracter which the hon. gentleman attributed to it. He had that very day frmvarded to his right hon. friend, the Chancellor of the Exchoequer, atoel,orial from the High Sheriffand Grand Jury of Clare county, in spring ass,ZOS, stating that the linen trade of that part of Ireland was in so languishing a state, as to require every sort of protection. The right hoti. gentlemian expressed hinteelf frietidUy to a very gradual, but not to an immediate repeal of these bounttes. Sir RIt FERGUSSON. in explanation, meant no disrespect to the very respectable body of the -petitioners wl4o liad subscribed the prayer'lndwbefore the house. MIr. C. HUTcaJNgON haad a simitar petition to present, (and had the Cliaicellor of the Exchequerlbeen resent, he could ihave wilshed particitlarly to call his attention to i , from the linen-manu- facturersof trCork, where the,,alirm occasionedl by the right hon. gentlerian'sisntintions in respcctof these botinties was nost exten- sively felt and hously inoreas,i l. He had been credibly informned, thit in the' county, ef (lork a,lone, 60,000 of the poorest people in the county had found employment in consequence of the exten- sion of thg linenh trade; ,nd nc'considered that that extension was | ctie'fl.attrib'utablf''to the bouitnies that had been given. lt was hisl iRtentil& zs soot as ever the'ChanceUor of the Excbeqner's i resence AbuLdgiVe him ithe'opportunity, to present a peution from tiiie cibf o6ik on' this rkost ititetesting subject. 'Mr.' ,MAX3RLY was fearful that mueas mischief bad been don'Jby. ihe apn$ptsation of the right hon. gentleman's intention without iufficight'preitous reflection and itiquiry. He was quite dispbsed to'siAsport the.general principle of thc repeal; but he could not approve,, 'in ts istasnge, 'of the manner in which it was proposed to be camied irto execution. Tiese bounties on linen *'le meydy wdra vt9c1s; and iii cOmmon consistency the right hon. gentle&tll s:bmtlalhh've tqken away the duty on the raw material of the d~rii'uCac hi*e_,atnelyflu ndlhemP. But the duty on hemp was now h per eent., amid {et the holise see how -this muef uffect' the cordage trade. Under the' existing law, every ship niglht take in her cerdage wherever she chose; and who could suppose Ithst shippig woed willlngly purchase it is a ooantrq where hemp i versduqefor te4 ofbounty sho1 eC nclrt :orisid6r thsquesinijlis , nudhmefbgi braid ha the sbape ~~ e~w h hldt.e.h raw material. Afler a few wordgf'rom Sir G0 HIL ,the petition -was, ordlered. :0 be printed. .:. lI%r. STUART W13ORTLEY p;csenteda4petitipn fropa tlseinhat- bitante of Lteds, pzaying that attornies.tmight he allowed toact ase .totaries public n nte frmetsiitlsolieitors of Leeds,. to the same ercft.c . Thie hon. mieminer then vitenwtda aviiitiorn from cer- lai ziercant, mnufctuers an oters, of lisidaersfield, in teh tonity f Yrk, nteestd inthewortedtradi, again$, the exporta-. Dr. HILLMOREmove, tht te Speaker'should issue his writto he ler of he row, t mae ont -a new writ-for the re- urnof meberto ervinthepreentPa:rliament for the =unty of' Leitrim, in the room o.f Luk B'ie sq., deceased.- Ordered. Air. KENNEDY presented a petition from the jjourneymnea boot and shioe-makers of tile county of Ayr, against tshe combina- ion laws. Mi. yWOLR.QYCiIE WIIITMORE ~tPgive notice, that be should Dn the 13th of May next move for a iconlumttee to inquire into the lirawbacks allowed upon certain sugars, and also into the mode of collecring suchi drawbacks. Sir T. LL I'l BRIZDGE presented a -petition5 -praying for a fur- ther remission and repeal of the assessed taxes, from the ~i hbzttants of the citv of Bath. It was judiciously and respectfullY worded ; but dhe p'etitioners ex,pressed their disappointmoent that no furthier repeal bad. been this year proposed by the righit hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer.. lie (Sir T. Lethbridlge) was not even now. wvithi- .hat hopes that the right hson. gentlemn isfi ighit be induceed tornake somne further conccssion in this respect. he boti, bart. prestiited a. similar petition frora Shepton-Mallet.g Mr. LINDSAY brought u'p ~ petition from Perth, praying for the enactment of somne measure in respect of' the -reloYclY of smtrll d'ebts in Scontland, siimilar to thakt which prevailed Wt. England. Tile presnt process in force in'Scoland regarded only the vez'y tonsil- Mr. KE~NNEDY had waited for so'me time in the liope that tihde noble and learned Lord opposite would have brouight forwarditliis suib- ject. Whiat was wvanted in Scotland was, some measure that miight re.gard the recovery of larger sums than the small debts; recovery process q'that part of thle coutuiry at present went to. The LORD ADVOCATE ob;served, thiat very, considerable dliffi- culties surrounded the proposed measure; and was understood to add, that it wa-s still under his considemtion. Coloinel DAVIES winhed to know fromn the Chancellor of the Exchequer in whiaf order lie intended to take thte business, that was upon the paper for to-moorrow (Friday. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCfIEQ27RrepIlied, what he should wish to bring on first would be the comdin.,ttee on thie silk trade bill, a's it was materiel that-aoo-tjmg houldbe.LOstinlProceed- lag withi that matter. Pe could not an~ticipate that thai -ould Occaa- sion any very long or tedious discu-sion. There would\then be no difficulty,I eapreended, in proceediing to these items-!NP?PIY, nisi'te laneoul anda commissariat. illr. B3ARIN'G begg-ed to state, that he shiould have the lio-onou to preseint a petition to the hiouse from a body of Kentlemnen initerast- edI in the trade, and called the silk comimittee. They praved to be hieard by counsel at the bar; and he presumied there would be no ob- jection, to its beinig broughit up. Bzut he wished to know froim the right hqin. gent. rhen would be most conivenient time for this pur- pose, or for Cthe discnaailon upon the question of hearing counsel? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that the brfinging up the rep.xrt would be the muost convenient time, for tak:ng the whole ouestion. li'iethier, indeed, counsel could be heard at their bar, except by the house in comnisttee, he did not feel quite sure. Certainly thfe most conveniient course would be that which he had just stiggtisEed, provided it could be adopted coasistently with rthe thrzns o'f the house,snd the conireniience of the parties. Mr. HUME hoped thie lion. gert. did not meun to propose thtat counsel against the proposed measures in respect -of' the silk -truth shiould bc heard at thie bar. If he did, he (M r. -f ume) should cer- talinly oppose the proposition. C~olon BiPAILLIP, presen ted a petition froim the city of York, aga-inis t rie combination laws. Il PRES9M ENT. .M1r. H U.M Ethen presented a petition relative to the important s,ubject of imipressment. Thiis petition was drawn up by a m3n who, hiad liad a great deal of experience in the nayy, and -what he statetl seemied well deserving of very serious attention. a he parry- submnitted that tie hadl beeti 20 years in his Mal.iesiy's navy. Tihere were four causes to whicli the evils attendant up on~ -lse naval s~ervice m igh1t be attributed. These were.-f.irst,the unlimitedt timue of serv_ ilc;at tiCe petitioner instanced cases tvherernen were impreSS. edI on their return fromi abroad,anll detained inthsrice for a period of 14 years. Withl, at the end of that time, a leave of absene of 14 days, n'etcr which thie parties were again sent on service, where rhey reniained nine vears w~ithout intermission. The second causez was ti Ie capricious discipline withi respect to punishmnert and dress. The third, thec beinir placed under the control of m-ere boys. aceing as mnidshiip-men and mnasters' miates, who were ntot sufficient judges as to whiethier miern did their dutv properly or niot, and )yho yet bu.d the power of punishment. 'there was, be observe:i, a COtaider. able imnprovemnent in the navy in this respect binde the close of thie war, but lie believed much still re'Oiiined to be done. The foUrth cause war- the lowness of wages, an,.4 the un.- equial distribution of!prize-mionev. The hon. member expr~OMIJ hope that the attenti6hi of Gover'nment would be seriously turn,ld tc ihesematters, %1hich were miostimportatit to the putlileservice. *41 would himself at no distant day submiit a motion with a view o~ obtainting better iniformlation oni the subject. There must be some- thing deflective its the service, wheni, with all its advantages it was found so difficult to induce meni to enter. il e moved that tbe peti. tion be brought up. Mr. YKE, a th repesetatve f aconsiderable Port (HUll), expresed a ope tat theattenion o Gove nmetighit be speedlily Tepetition was then brought up.itwsfo rGege in Butle; and siteo- enTumerating the evils- attendant pntesse of impressmient into the roval navy, prayed thehoetoakth subject into its conisideraiion.-The petition was ordered to be printed. SILK TRADE. Mr. B3ARING rose to present a petititon from a respectable bodw- of individuals conniected wvith th)e silk-trade of London--the Sillk Commrittee. The petitioners stated, that notwithstanding the boon held out to the tracde by the proposedi return of the duty on the stock in. hand', they still remained with unaltered opinions as to the ruainous consequences of the measRures proposed by the Chiancellor of the Exchiequer wvith reipect to the general reguLlation of the duties. Thiey trayed, therefore, that the house mlight allow them to belheard at th bar bv their counsel against the intended regulationis ; and hke (Mr. Baring) tr-usted thlat the houise wouldI complly with this very- reasonable petition ; if they did not, they wouldl be doing a manirz;t injiustice to a very large po.rtion of the comsmunity interested in thlis tradc. He feltlhow ve%ry inadequateche was todescribe all the derails ofthis a porta,nt question; but what lie undlerstood to bethe wishi oIf thle traufe was, that thev would forego the advantage of the wltole bounty-held out, prov-ided they ,gota further extension of time. 'rTe lhon. uieinber then went on to state, that it was the opiniion of the petitioners, that the suml w-hich the public would loseo by the pro- posed regulations wouldi be found considerably greater than was, at present anticipated. In conclusion he observed, that if the hiouse _id not conisent to hiear this numerous andI respectable body on, aL sit bject whiere their Own interesjts were so materitully concerned, they wtould be rlealiing wish thetni withi a levity whichi would not be shownl in the decision of a. commnon turnpike.bill. lie moved th-at the peti- tioni be brought up. 'Ur. ELLIACE said, he did not rise to oppose the petition, for he was frientliy to the moust extended discussion of'this important ques- tion; but, in jttstice to the Chiancellor of the Exchequer, he must say, that the silk trade of CoveNtry wvere, generally speaksng, satistietd wiith the mneasure. They were fully, aware that thiey were not in a condition to cope with foreigners in a shiort time, but still they were willing that the expet iment shotild be tried, after the time specified, in the hope, if occasion required, tlsat the attention of CGoversisnent: weouldbe agi tuned to tuie consideration of the whole subject. He would furthFearlnasu,that his constituents were not partiex to the recenit mieeting ltte C'ity of London Tavern, on the subject of the silk trade. He would not now go into any, further detail on this subject, as it would soon come on for full discussion in the comnmittee. Sir J. MAC INTOSH said, thiat he had wished for an opportunity of deliverini hiis opinion on thisg imiportant subject, which. hitherto he had beeni p.revented f'rbm givin by ilness. lHe could not now concur in blaming ministrfoa atdeionwhrsectoi. as heretofore lie had been mns h~ h huh hywr o slow- in adopting their presn rnilso hsadohrbade of trade. Consistently wt te oiions whichi he had ever, avowed on thesujcoftae he now hiailed the timle when some of toepicpr were to be adopted by Gov-ernment, and he wol ldy~ehis feeble, suipport to the proposition whiicit hadbe a enb te Chancellor oif the Exchequer with respecr~to: h iktae as he would' support every measure of Governmn whc:wn odeliver ouir trade In ge- neraitfrom the fetters6 tetich had. so long hung sDund it in-this coun.- try. Hethought, that towards the petitioners and the persons en- gaged ithis trade, coacessions enoughi iad beex already mnade and if lie liad any request to make, it would be that no more should be granted. As to the opinion of' the petitioners, thaLt the proposed Meaures WOLxld not be as pradtiveto. -the public generally, as was stated, lie woald observe, that whatevvr weight he miglh t be disposed to attacli to their Opinions OR What. concerned their own particlulr interests, he cAould not but prefer. to, their general sentimnents on political ec-otoiy those of the right hon. the President. of the Doird of Trade.Oa the subject of their pruyer to:be heard by counsel agrilst the measure, he would say', thiat tho%h, ftiendly as any man could be to the rightof petition, and of -parties to be hieard, still hie ceald not consentto the present petitioners being heard by thieir counsel. It would he hiolding ouit hopes, to them be of no use to htear counsel; .fr his' mind. was sO complcsly satis_ fied a, to the policy of the proposed regulations, that any thing:which the pettitioners might urge could not alter his fIxed determination -to ,cupport them. r. TIERNEY said, he must altogether -di2er front his honour- able and learned friend (Sir.._Alacintosh) as to the justice of his conelneting observation. He was rather surprised to bear-from him, that being himself friendly to the principles of free trade, hb would shut ont the partie before the house from the opportunity otf doing tbat wrhich might operate on the conviction of. others. It was gDing rather too far to say, that the friends of free trade must declaram :to his Majesty's Alinisters, that they ought to gdeno:fariher thart 'thtY had ,gone. For his own par, he approvekl thf the princip7gs upon, 'shich ministers had acted with respect: to the proposed improverenrs in the genezal ,principleea rourtoder. He had 'come down to support them, admittng the'inarljeilidohr v;ith wiuich they had introduced *he subiect-sotiif'ferene fwz the.policy of sosue of their predecessors in otce. But thoug he httd givetn Ihit spport to those principles, that dld.no:preclude hun .h*om rinfiriltg oxvsub. jects ofegail connected-with -bthern. . ow -Itea.die ttement which had been made on the7subjetrofiese rhegulations, and th2t they weresoon to takAeplace, he owed;thmhepr as rathereniop. poinlted at hearing en a 6,ubsequent evening .that these regulations were to be deferred for tw O yeas Arixd a~bXl'.~ Still, howrever, he caon- sent,e3 to this, thooeh-reluct^ntlys bat- ~hez did CGnSept, thinking that it was the reault of a communicetiolttitl Nthe manufacturers;e for h-e gav, .ministers credit for havinng.sg and acudaired. pOTh sibleinformation-on thesubjectfrom Shos conceried. -But andCh, howodid the case stanAd ?.-thst no regulation OV agteeiuert ofW aAnr kind had beent entered into withA the. ananul tter.tht,- o. far Yfroni their approving of what had been proposed, the? were now willing to relinquaish the proffered bountv,rathuz than risk a conipe.. tifion wfith foreigners at the end of tw6 anid a hdlf. Thuy stated, that suelia competitiou wpmsW b.e their ruin, aid. thor that this country would yet take that stationi whicb, fromiht oi tical cormmercial, acd moral energies,, sbela a Jgit 'asue He I'd not call on the country to go to war; but this he would say, thatrsh-e 'ought to oppose the confederacy which -had besn set cii foot against the liberty', nor merelyt of Spain, but of all Euxroppe. TIlse house and the country m3ust look with horror and detestation) towards that combination of sovereigns wvho were united solely for the purpose of preventing the extension of liberal principles.... -whose great object was, to retard the improvement, the civi- lization, the happinesls, of the human race. ( Hear.) He nowaTue to a point of miuch deticacy. He knew how unpleasant it was to re- quest the attention of thie h-ouse, when the subiect on Which they Iwere to be addressed was connected with any mlatter of a personal natuire. He had hiLherto refr-ainied from adverting to any transactoli ofthile last year, so far as he wa pfsnll ocend e wag de- sirous to do so, nor that he shakfo n esnlresponsibi.. lity, bec-ause he felt thait whatever he hdonwsdnein the dis. charge of aconscientious duty. He had wishiedto overlook encirely or to treat witlh indulgence, anv anienadversions which, during his- absence, might have been maae o-n Isis conduct. Buit wlien a t tempt was miade to despoil himi of hMs honour-to deprive him that which alone was left to recompense hiim for past servicc,, fie felt htimself bound, as a representative of the people, fromn that tribunal, where lie was placed on a level with the mDost ax. aILed, to repel the charge-to refute the slander...and to vii, dicate hiis character. (Hlear, hcar.) He did this fearlessly, it w true; but he did it under circamstances that were mo-st p-.6nful t,. hiis feelings. It wvas necessary for trim to make a shortiltatement to the house relative to events in which he hiad been an actor. N,i gentlemran who heard hiun could, he believed, suppose that motives of personail vanity urg,edhimito maketiliactsta.tement. (Hear.) Li. hioped every honourable memiber would put his hand on his heartC an(t sayv, whether, if he had receivedl such treatmnent as he (Sir IL Xl tson) h:ad met with, he wouJld not have felt indignant, and whe.. ther he would not, with pride, hiave seized the first opportumeyt&, mieet every cliarge that might have been alleged arRainst'llius (Hear 5-_ Hish exultation at the certaintythat he couild repel every slandir which hadl been uttered against hini.'wa,; necessarily miingled with thiat regret which every man tnust feel when Calledl uponi to be tie niarrator of his own rahievemnents. iliear.i There was no intilvidiasi, he be- lieved, wlho a-as net aware that lie (Sir R. WVison)) ihad worn certain hiovourable insignia which he had t.oz purchased-which hie had carried in thic ficld, anid which wvere bestowed on hiam with the ap. probattion of all whose approbation waf:s of value. Thie first of t,hese as lthle insigniia ofthtle rder of Mlaria Theresa~. It was conferrect on him for hiis share in a. servicc which. for bold dating. promptitu-dc of executioa, and brilliancy of' success, was not excelled by anly mnili. tary achsievement of the ~,re.Rent day-he alluded to the Tescue of th'e Emperor of Austria. That MIona.rch ihad advancetd a considerable way froni the allied troopis, rehenL lie suddenly fisutd himself in the presence of two French divisions, by v.hom hie was surrouinded. No. s4ooner wa-, thie fact ascertained, than the cry of" Rtswus the Em pieror" becametuniversal. Achiarg_e vas in mediately mnade for that' pu rpose. The cavalty were tipposed by a large mass of infantry, sutiported by cannon. Thle carge wats, however, irresistible ; tie' Frenchi wiere obliged to give way, aniti a coniplcte v-ictory was obtain-s& ed. Th''le tnost important tesuilt Of that victory was tlte preservation' of the Emnperor. For thiis service. he was rewarded p-ith the order ofr Marift Theresa. Th'ic' Bni!reror ordtered a niiedal to ha struck, whichi wasto e pesette todiferet oficrs;bitt findling irmmedi:%tely~ aftrwads,tha li ha Itin is owe toconfer tlie ordler of Maria Tiseesr, le dsird Lod sint toforard to Iiii (Sir It. Wlilson) a ltte, saliig ha hahadbesowe tat order on hint, and request- lag im o rtai bot th meal ailthe ordecr " as a miark of his tapprobation and lasting gratitude." (Ilear hear.) The next ordler he received was that of St. George of Russia, I I i h was coa,ferred on hin for his services ini the battle ut zen. After that battle, the Emiperor of Russia iUh- hint in languIag,e.whit:h he couldl nost state to the houise. '~ol be'l siffciti s say, that !he Emperor was full of pirofessions of everlasting gracitctle. (Hlear, liear.) He wore, at the time, the gratrd cross of tlile order of' St. George, which he took ofl and pree seaitedI to hitm (Sic Robert lii:>-t onour, he might he penstitted to obser-ve, which was not conferred on nayl other officer. (H-ear, hear.) The isext mark Of approbation wvhich he reccived was imnmediately after the blattle of Dretsden. It was; his gootd lortttine to be' the ficet that mountcd a formnid- an,le battery. In Nectling thiat battery, lie lost the insignia of the order of' Ilaria Theresa, hut t'.c Emperor immnediately repairedh thte loss. Ini the letter which the Emnperor wrote to him oil that occasion, he said-"1 Finditng you liaye lost an order, and htost it in so gallant tin effort, I lhereby, seticl vou aotbocer;" and lie again repeated lilt assuranc,s ofeternal grz,titude. (Ihear.) fie next receivedi cte order of cthe lied Eagle ofl'PrtISsia. When the King of Prussia sent tliat ordier to himi, he expressed, in strong termns, his a-sultizacts of kindness- antd iregardl. In speaiking of tihe inj'usti'ce weirm whirls lie hadl been treated, he wished, its asuchi us pos,- skible, to except the King of Prussia, because lie believed thati nitntarchs was lplaced its circuriristauces wliicli conipelled Iiin to do thitiga thlat lie -would willingly have- avoidled. The next order wvithi rhichi lie was hono' ured, seas for his conduct its cIte battle oif Leipsic. On the secolid clay, the Prussiani forces a%ere so considlerably nilvanced as to be separated friom the Austrian anti Russians arm . Using that authiority which hisissituatitoni anti tcit con,fIdence which was reposeri in hinm pronipted, liebroghtitt sose avary rd unsfor the purpose of seizing a spo ofgrond hic wa 5nthe1soiit01'being occtspied by 12,000 Irenli nd lage odyof olih cvals'.He haippily suicceetded, antitins hresrvel te cntmsoiar.on etweet thle Prussians arid the the alies PrnceSciwarzeuergforwarded a letter to the Earl of beree. te 3iiist Asias-adr-be mnentionedl names, be. cause the individuals could be referreed co-in which it was stated, that tue Etmperor had conferreti on hiini the ordler of the Goldien Fleece for tliat speciliL service. Tisis anisutciation was accons. peruied by another letter frtin tire Eriiperor of Auistrias, in w'hicli iliac rornarcls observed, thiat ire (Sir Robert WNilson) wvas still'accuntulatiisg debts against hint ; ailic he ended by stating, tuat his gtratitude would be as lasting as his life. (Hear. htear.) At Frankforr, theEmiperor of Rur.-iaandl thec;rand Duke Coxistan- tine expressed themselves in the warmest temis of approbation withi respect to liii various serv-ices, and the order of Leopold wena theni conferredi on, Itiio. He kniew no-t any thing which had since taken place which oughit to have dimin;ishied the gratitude of the Ertiseror of RuIssia, aitIothighr thatgratitude zppearu0 to have vanis~iad. Now hie wouldi ask. having stated thus i~uchr, what wess tire amouant or clitarge against hirm ? Of what infaims lhal he been guilty,? WIt'li liad lierece veildthat indlignitv whichb haidbeen studiouslycast upon hMD'? XI'as, it for his coalducttlurin'zthe con:irient-l war ? lias it for having professed hiimself'willing to assist those ,vlro svare strug-gling foe minle- per.rlencee? Wlasit foir lsasing been at all dtinesthe advocate ofun ion arid cottcord aurriongst aill psarti es." Was it for givitig libertyv to airuiiberosf Frenchmen, whio swere dletairned its Spain tinder circunistances die mxos,t perilous ? W~as it for truing to) pain-not as the friend o1' ;snarchty, for suchi he hadl b:een represinted, bitt on thle express invi- tatiun uti rte Kingz hiimself, to proceed there anti cake tIte COosinaiid of his armiy ?' Was ii after ieL hrad gone thiere, for having paid even's' constitutional respect in his power to that inonarch, and he wvoulti appeal to the AmbLsRadorof Saxony, anti to General Alava, se-lie- ther he hail riott beers the iarenas of giving protection to that Sovereign, by paLifr'ing the troops ? IThese were his act.-these were iris crinies, if' they couldl he so dienoinAtised. Ilie thecrefore appealedl to rthe wojrlrl, wheheser the Allied, Sovereignis, though they had torn lice inyignia from Iisi breast, riiad been able to starnipshamle upin Iiis sriuw ?, (Hlear, hsear.) Indlivitlually, fire had niothine to sav 01fihi.e 'dlonarchs trbut whteti thtev were mentiotned as memsbers ofttIre Hol) Alliance, tie would, while they purstifed their. present ceurse, alwavs speak of' themi as enemies of the hitrian race. One wsord lie inust say wNithi respect to else- King of Portugal. Ile had received an order from him- wiiichi, under circmu.tirances the mo4t cruel, lie felt it nteces.sary to rersigts. Six weeks after he hail done iliac aect, lie found in tire )inglish papers ai letter from the King of Portugal staring that lie had take~n awn)' the order. Thsat letter was anitedatedI twcodays. t'nr' the purpose of matkirig it ap- pear that tne oircdr had been recailele before he resitgned it. (Hlear, licar.) lie pledlged Iris horrotIr to the fact. lie woiild nor ajr;seal to atiy risean foir thie truth of it-standing thiere anti pledIging iis or-i word to Itie correctiress of the statemnent was, lire thought. quite asifficiesir. (Hlear, hiear.) Alter all, lire believed thre 'King of Porualt be " more skireid againist than siirning." fie was certain that the miniister of' clint' iionatrch persuaded lila m,a,- tecr to do that whiicli disgraCed hlim as a sovereign-namuely', to sign his namne to a falsehood and a fraudi. (Hear, hear.) He now canse to a nratter wvhirls nearly toucheil lilt feelings, atnd wvhichi shrowed the nmalignicy, of tire l"rencii Government cowards himn. He %vould ask whether any- iisan, who rwts a father, could hear without indignation of the percy- tyranny withi whichi Iiis (Sir R. WVlson's) cllilcdretihad beets visited irs France? Two of IlLa daughters, who were rousiing tothiis country from iParis,w-ere wantosihy arrested by theM ai or of Calais; tlher i-ere not tak-en toa Castorn-bous;e, but to the Towirl- house; they wvNere there searchzed, andI nothing imrproprer havitig b ee t'ound onDtheati,they were released: huttcheMalvor hiad previo)usly-cold thte Captain of the vessel not to watfr cru,a hywr likely to be detained. An aipplicatoisn was malde to Ithe French Goventinent on the subject, and tite answer yivas, that positive insformuation liadI been received clint those childIren were intendedi to be i isate cthe iastrurinert.s of conveying political carrapiraderirce between the two countries. He knew 'iot wiatt inforniation tire French Gin. ves'nment seas possessed of; but this statemsent imnpli ed cinat lire (Sir Robert Wilson) was acquainted with some private political intrigueC. This was a calumny and a falsehood. He had air political corre-. spondenece; and he had not receivedi or written any letterthsat auight loot go open to the whole world. (Har, Itear.) If, hoivever, tire contrary were the fact, the officers xmiightha'ee obtainedl the papers by seizing thetnis hen his childrenl canle out of the lhotel but that weould L4t do. Inls,lt was tire object of the (+overnmelitt they wianted the childresi cogo down to the ship, that they mnight, for ithe prurpose ofumortifying theml, arrest them there. TIlsey' wislhed it to he supposed thev were left behind as crimiinals, and were anxious to expose them to all that indignity sehich a gaping crow.d genierally bestowed on the objects of tiseir attention. It was quite clear from another circunmstance, thatinsultelone was their objcet. Ile(SirR. WVilscin) sent a female atterstiant to take the chilldrets over; it a1r- peared thiat an order was, gicca to the officers that shie slhouldi not be scarelied, althouigh she insisted on it. Now lire asked if their obiect was to discover a secret correpondence, would riot tise ofieers have searcl;sd thaitfeniale? (Ii ear.) it w-as, on the whole, oneof the most base and urimasaly aet.rthat was everlperpetrated. (Heat.) If triteFrench G,overanment isadinade an apology, he woul(il hav~e-i <~ thin~g on the sub'ect ; but as they only stated that they had red' which w as pursued towards two children of such an age and suclt a sex as most ignoble and dishonourable. (Hear, hear.) The gallant officer concluded by returning ilis sincere thanks to the right hon. g:entleman (Ir. Canninz) for the spirit and feelingwithvwhich he had noticed this outrage. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LITTLETON said, as it rutul have been painful to the galLtnt officer to state his own personal circuisitances to the louse he seized the first momeirt to assure him, thit no change which bad been effected, either by the caprice of others, or from any error of his own, could induce him (Mr. Littleton) to view the gallmant oficer in any oilier light than as the brightest modern example of chivalric courage and gernerosity. (Hear, hear.) 'With saspect to *hat part of the ganllant officer's speech which reted tohIis conduct in Spain, he must say, that no man had a greater right to deplore the degraded situation of that couintry, who had himself contributed so much to its glorv. ie would not followvthe noble lordthrough the long hlisto- rical exclirsionwhichlh-chadtsaken; but hemust in theoutsetsay,in justieeto himself,thathe didnotopposethenoblelord's nontio bece-'se 'he was dissatisfied with hisideaofconistitutional independence, o . cause he did not deprecate the conduct of a great military state i deavoturing to extend its boundary contrars' to tIe dictates of nat al faith, and of inteinationallaw. He rejoiced exceedingly vehen hls e theGoverntmentofhis country disposed to resist teself-styledHeoy'A liance in anvscheme which they mirght have enrterntuined ofaggranidize ment.Purblic opinion had been enlistedlagainsttheconduct of France in the invasion of Spaini, and he believed that act would not lessen t(ie dangers which France, by raking up arms, supposed she could eec- tually turn aside; but wihile thiis l}overnment acte ""operly in de. elaring thrt they would not allow the rights of naus to be invaded with imnpunitv, he thought their conduct wvas ivise nd prudent itn !;e tfwarifthieycould do so with honour. 7T Conformity he conceived the house wat l, .t iu stet coios-el at t h -d- Iythi tttecP`oo~~4 inut Cds 10 3r.'exa1ons o objecting greae3tIN " ~ttaln Livte ,lard ho with tht thoate5 Vpyiijbricall economy:,reliase jc;heat lathser whi'--s hanttdifooking at what' had been donie 1Laint esr ro anotlse 'trade naot possaessing a tithe of pa tles, ve, tit woula be better to leave the offhierr- eoteei Chiancellor of' the Exchequer thic they ttee a boon at thie public expense, fox their own chbiotee aceept it I? -ld~k t 51'-ed oul-litzber r in -e thou-ht that at the enid of two Y arsald a halfm, theAt duties would rerZly be taken sfT', he would 55ot say anothe-r word ;but, believing that at the end of that time, the &Anac objection would be made with efFect, he would prefer that the Chancefor should applv the sum proposed as bounties to be ap plied to tihe taking oil' of certaibi taxes, which pressed equalF7 uponallelas~ Tere cetainandpermanent benetit would be conerrd,forwhch hoe wo eltitwouild be thankfuL In con- cluson h woud aain bsere, talie would give the petiticners evey f"ilty f binghead b thircounsel, andi he trusted that the hancllorofth Exceque woud nt object to that part of their Te CHANCELLOR (it thie EXCHEQUER said, that hie couId not but express his thanks to the house, for the nirnner in which it had approved the principles uipon which he had acted withi respect toi the regulations of trade. it was at thie same time pyainf'ul to him to he thus comapiiisentedl at the expenseof the noble lord ,tlte late Chancellor of the Exchequer) who hiad preceded hiim in oface. Though circurmstanceshad not permitted the adoption of those prin- cip'e3 at at, earlier period, yet he could assure the house thiat no mian more fully appreciated and' admitted the justice of those viriociples tthan his ri&ht honouirable predecessor. If there was any blarnie, st- tached to his predecessor in office, for not havinig inttroduccif those measures earlier, he also shiould come in for his sharc of' it, fer it was conmpetent to him, as President of the BoarTd ef Trade, to hiave introduiced any of the rzocent measures. That was nut done, because timnes and criMainstances did not perm-it. Wlith respect to tite question before t'he hiouse, he wiouldl observe, that it would have zeess Wseles9 to have waited for the intro~duction of' tile measure unitil they had the concurreince of the tehole of tite silk-tyade. Irt did zwt appear to himr to be incumibent on 0ovesanient to enter into a sort of nlegotiarion with parties who miight, conceive thtems- iSeices injured by any miea-sure which was proposed. as it were for the piurpose of ascertaining wvhether they (thie parties) would autho- rite the adoption of thiat mieasuire. H-e' did not think it probable thiat any proposition whichi Government could miake oni the suibject wrould give .satiqf.sctioli to all parties. Soime parties wished tile ex- isting system to conitinie wvithoutt 'to ciiie;oheswui coorsent to its becing altered at the en ov chseve)yas others,wul at the e, I~~ fSeenyer ohes a thend of five ; and others, again, at the end of thiree. It' Government were to wait until they proposed something which wvould miect with, the aPPrti'oation of all p~arties, thiey miighlt wait till Doomsiday. Up-_1 'the sutbject of' the petition, fie nmus ,;y. that he coul'i inot go thle lengthi of thie honourable aind leane In-Imber tot' Knaresborou,i. (ir. licn ltosh), in s-.v'tp, that becaise hie was ennvitsced that his opi- nlions wer.e -.o lkel tbecanved by any representations that coluld bies mad he soult therefore peremptorily refuse to permnit tite par- 'I s tat ie their case by counsel. fie beiieved ,haat nothiing was Mo'. romnolon in, a case of' this kind, titan to) allow any or all of the ',arfiea who;e interes!ts were affectetd, to state their case in t.te roian- tier proposed by the petition. Although he had tiot the ~.liOltrest no- -tion that any thing whichi anv counise' coulti say couild alter tlue opinion which he had formedt after muiich patienit investigation, yet he tohtIt would be a harsh meaisure to decide that they sho~ildl tnot be heard. it was not a w'ise tiling on the part of the petitioniers to eng-age cotinsel r it would o,nly' cause thenm unnecessary expense but that wa-s their bus~iress. 11', howvever., felt himsel f boottid in Zuit;ce and fairness to state, that there was not th!e sliahtest proba- tIiility that the opinioni to which hie had come, after a futll considera. tion of the stibjeat, wvould be changed by any tliing whiichi couli be urged by counsel. 31r. WHITMlORE was of opinion that (46vemnmenttliad adopted the best course they possilbly coulAd with respect to the dlieli- c-ult questioni which they hail hasi to dteal whitz. lie trusted that they -oitid persevere its the manil vantihonouirable course oin whichi they had entered.anmd if thiey did lie was cotsvtncetI thitt there was no couti- try whose tirosperis wo,uld be more brilliaitt than those of Englandl. .Lord GEORGE CAVENDISH thought eiatr Parliartient ought to legislate with caution Ont tile suibject of tfhe silk-trade, inl whichi so larg-e a capital was embarked. M r. If lU31E h oped t ha t Go vertn iTen t would perseve se itti ea serv in g the rmesures which they ha-d proposed into eiThcc. I-e was sort y to undertand that a very fevetnisht state of feeling lhad prevailed in thIe city during the whole of thisday',in conisequence. of artintour that onle of the Lords of the Treasury lied, in an interview wirh tihhad taken. place betwceen hin.,anI some pe!"ons connected with the silk-trade, intitnated that tie nmrasures which hiad been proposed by the rigitt ho.gent. opposite, w-ould, undergo s)ime chatige. Mr. HIUSKISSON, in answer to eitiat had fallent froin t thclion. memn-ber for Aberdeen, saidl. that he couild take 0000 Ihimself con- fid1ently to state that neitlier hiis noble friettrl,'the first Lortd Of time Trasury (the Earl of L~iver'pool), nor any othier inember of the Grovernmtent. hlatilheld OUt the slizlitest expectation thlat any chatnge w~ould bemnade in thne pianwich witeile (Mr. littkissonl)liad suboiit. red to the hou-se and he would state furthier. oxithis owli responsi_ bilitv, that there was, not tite least idea eittertained by army iemuber of the Governmyrent .t npoosing any cliange whatever in that plan. tor cuAslk called i te attention of theeihouse to ilth claue rlatve o ct slk.if thiat clatuse were passetdli tilte fortil in wh' Cic it now stood, tite object of the righit hon. gelnt, would be de,'eat-A I 1".ie petition was then brought up, andi read, attd ordered to be- Pt.,nted. Mrl. BARING rose to niove that coiunsel should be heardI at tile bar, as prayed by rite pertitin, and took that opportutnity, of' defetud- rng hnitstlf frni'th ie chiarge of inconsistency which itadl been bro)ughIt aantlm ii y the honourable stieniber. it was not inicomlsisteiit wihhsopinionIs on, the geiteral qe4tiolt of free trttet ops the plan whic1i had bieen pro1iounWdci withi regard toitdie silk-ntanu- cure. Thie systemi of fite trade, to be vood f'or any tliting, Ought ma be perfeCLt itt all its parts. To retain restrictions oti op.e branch of ntanufacture, atsd to reinove theom frotn atoithmeT, Was nor the way 10 promnote free trade. After a few words fro:ti Sir .l. AlACeNT0'rot., the Inotiott was aeree-d to. On the suzrgestion' of the CItAsxCtI-1.0a of the Exc-ttnUtRn itwas orderedi that thie counsel s,hould be hieard to-:ntorrow intt ite comr.ntttee On the bill. THlE ASSESSEI) T'AXFS. Mr. MIAIlERLY pgve notice, that on rthe 1th of Mlay he wouldi nmove for the reea o all the assessedl tsaes. (A laugiu. FRENCH C.CUl'ATION OF 51?AN L-rctI fIN RUlSSELL rose to britig forward t&einautitiaof witich he had given notice, rtspecting itse Occupation of Spain lA-i the Frenchi troops butt we regret to state, that the noble lordi spok -' In so lowsa tone, that it was extreniely difficult hitt oattv parts of lila addres,s to the house to hear whiat lie said, anti in sou'le instances it was quite impossible. The noble lord cotmentettclb statitt ia it was not hi% intenution to bring ant' carg or accusation ag,aittat ministers on accouint of the pelicy whih iies had pursiteti duLritig tihe !aze 'earz between France ansi Spa'in. fie was of oviniount Itat if(Grew' Blrt'tain hlad, at the Conzress of Verona. a.ssntned rLiete otte which h iaul ,en asurned by thieLUnite-d States of Amierica, or itati spoken o1it 'as boh Ilv withi regaz d to Spai n as thtey had donie with regard oSot Amyerica. tftat war would never hatve taken pl-ce. But a-s we hail not donet that, lite adotittedi that al'uer the commencem-nt of last se- sion. :r srisuld havre been the hlut ititof'himprudence lo Save enttereul into a war which mizlitrbmtve ittvol e(i us in a srritc'lu with -tll ti,e great Powers of the continetnt. "Whiat lie desired t t- the preeeltt Occasion was, to hear front ithe ministers o cthe C. rown sotte extpla. nation a s to what w,as the polic tf'ntliis coutttry, in oird,er tCat ire mnight not again fall inito th uirfoirtunate situation in wlitici we ita been recently ilacee, when, after a peace contclutded anmidst untiversal congrtulations, wh4ich liatd contiituesl for several years,-atiidst applause front one side of tht house, aniti silence on the OtihCr-tluret arose a questionl whether this country shituld enter on a dihMeltci war: and the only reason which wvas assigned for our not doing so was, ititar tt was uinwise to embrI)oil ourselves with apowerful adversary H cliadl heard it olbjected to the mpotion which lie proposed, to 'submittltlat it would be inwise to excite disctmsvion on the subject oftite policy of tlii muntir'v in the presepnt state of noir relations; with t breign powers. li-e would tell those whon made that Oibjection to look at the situatiomn of tite country. His Mlajesty, in his spteech at ithe opeztiitg of the pre- sent Fessii)i, had been iltasemd to say that fite conitinued to receive th owers his allies, assuranes of their friendly disposition twrstis eomtnery, and of their wish to osaintain and cultivate the relations of' anIity with lil(is osernmnttt. WhIat was meantc by the word allies ? It mauteit powvers(ntoied together on one common principle, sand directing their efforts to thie attainmient of one cont.. mon object. But the prittciple onttwwhichi the Allied Piowers atieed z'as hos,tile to the sp cit ul' tlte Briti.aih constitution* aniticthe invasiotn nf Sitain was dlirectly adverse to at;hat hiail always been ttite policyvi,f Great Britain. Fr om the 1il110 of' Louiis XI V ilowim to tile tini'e of Buonaparte, it :atl always been lite first wish of Frattee to establishi an influence in Spaiiit; and it had, during ttite same period, beeit clite con?stant policy of this country to prtevent Fratnce frotit effectits iig-tat objec t' rom the rime of the' battle of Blenheint, udown to tfie pe. nod wtntebtles of Vlittnria, Saragossa, and TarraLgona took place, Er,gland had been fighting to prevent France front e3tabhslh. irog her infloence in Spain. It Was no longer than ten yea(rsao that some of tue be-st Mbood ot' England was sited in t ite ields of -Spain ',o Trevent France from acquiiring a:i ascettdettcy' tlere a,nd now rench tTOOPS Were in poss4essien of' the very' fieila swrich" were stainedi wit,t English blood, and th.-y lined rthe battlements; of Cadiz, Badajoz, and SL Se-bastian, wlitich it hiad coat Etiglamtd so atany lives to capture. (Hear, hecar.) Surely no mnan who rlhought at all upon the subject wouldI saythat this was not a stare of thingsi which ought to excite the attention of the Blritisli Pailia. mzeat. (Hear.) fie would, 0110n the pres-ent occasion, endeavour to do three things :-First, to show how we had fallen into outr present %ituation secondly, the daneer which we incurred by being an that situation; and t _'l, howv we were ton extricate ourselves from it. First, with respect to' the manner in whicit this country had fallen into its present unfortutnate situatioti. It was well known thatt teui v ar o ou- rop wer fgtin under a gra-cmanewt "I years ago our troops were fighting- umler an.ear omnnanerwiti tht greatest possible success, encouraged by the tuniultuous cry of nations anxious torecover their independence. The exertions of anglad were crowned with success, and peace bcrran in 1814, was interrupted in 1810, and finally established in 11i8, on principles entirely new to the diplomacy of this country, as well-as to the rela- ion f the world. fie knew not how to describe what had for- ncrly been the policy of this country. The pa,sage to which lie al- was in verse; bhut the .entiment was better than the poetry:- 'Tis Britain's care to watch o'er Europe's fate, And hold in balance each contending state ; *lo threaten bold nresumptuous Kings with war, " And answer her afflicted neighbours' prayer." What was the situation of Bngland at the present moment ?' In. stead of balancing one Power against another, she had made herself a palty ta a general combination of aUl the great sovereigns of the continent -instead of threntening to chastise the insolence of pre- sumptuous King, she tamelystood by, whilst they made a fla ant atacm against the liberties of unioffending states,-instead of an- swernig the prayers of her afflicted neighbours, he had treated with scorn and contempt every supplication which liad been offere(l to, her. (Hiear. ) In l82a, the Allied ;onayelts issued a declaration which was pronounced by the late Marquis of Londonderry to be contrary to the fundnamental laws of this country, and wlich had since been dleclared by the present Right Hlon. Secretary for Foreign Arrirs to contain principlesi which struck at the root of the British constituion. In the first sentence of that declaration, the revolution inl Spain was pohtted out as one which it was theAllied Sovereigns no put down, and it was added that they only proceeded against that of Naples at that period, because it was mnost conveni- ent. He merely mentioned this circumstance, because, a year and a halfago, nisters had declared that they had no reason to suppose tat the aiirs of Spain would become a subject of discussion at the Ccnr, of Veron.e This showed how liable ministers were l to be deceived by their partiality for their Allies. They I atteadiypuzsud teir favoutrteobject.the cnslave=ent of rnankisIt t wvhilst the midnisttrs of England, who should oppose them, were a-sleep on their posts. He begged to call the attention :of thte house to the professions which were made by F?anee shorflk-b'fioe-the in- vasi-n of Spain-..to the promises whichi were'dien given, atid which were afterwards so scandalousli violated. Thie speecb of the- King of France, at the opening of teChambers, contained tht- following Passage ;-" Let Ferdinand VII. he f'ree to give to his people insti- tutions, whichi they cannot hold but from him, anid wlhicn, by se- ctiiring their tranquility would dissipate the just inquietudes'of France. Hostilities shall cease from tlaat mominent.' The interpre- tation whiclh was put upon thatt passage wast, that the IKing of France dlid niot desire that the free instituitiona which Spain en oyed 8huld be -abolished, but only, that they should emanate from th King, I.f any dloubt could exist on that point, it would be removed biy re- feiring to the note of Sir Charles Stuiart to Mr. Secretary Cauning, dated Feb. IO, of the. last Year. Sir Charles Stuart had 'omImuni- cated with Monsieur Chatiaubriand, respecting the passae in the King of Franice's speech, which he had just read to the house, anid the answer of Chateaubriand, as given in the despatch, was this- He (,I. Chateaubriandl) said, that " whatever mnay be the inter- pretatign which is; attachedI to hie Majesty's expressions by those who are deterinined to consider all the measuresi recommendeitl by this (the French) Court to be proofs of thleir (lesire to re-.estab,lish-an absolute government in Spain, he never can believe that the cotnmunications which have taken Place with thie British Cabinet have been misunderstood to a degree whiihl can authorizesuelch suppositions." The suspicions alluded to were, that it was the wish of France to see an absolute governmenit "e.establisheil in Spain. It wds unnecessary to state liow shame- Ifully all these protestations had been dartegarded, He would Ihere reminil( the hiouse that the promises whichi Prince Polig- us,c now made on the part of France wvith regard to South Ame- rica might be as easily broken, as these which shie had miade With r~spect to Spaini. Trhe French G;overnment neVer -hesi- tated to oledige its word en any occasion, because it never scr-upled to violate it at any moment when it might bie expe- dienit ; and in doing so thie French Gov'ernment only, fol- lswed the precept of louis XIV., that, " trellties like compli- mTents, are to be initerreted as mneaning a great deal less than is ex- pressed ; and the more express thie wordIs of engageenilts may' be, the more proper it is, to violate themi." (H ear and a lanigh.) NN'lhen France entei Spain, it wass with proibssions of' c-stablishing a con- stitut~ton less democratical than that selticit then existed, bitt at the samle time calculateO to secure to the peopl?e of Spain the free insti- tttioins whicht they desired to possess. It was important to look at thiis cmrctimlnsratice, if it wer-e tar no other purpose than because it Iaffordled the clue and key to the Secret of the success of thle Frenc)h it Spain. lie w'ould now pass fromi thie considezationi of the coniltict of F~rance to that of Spain. fie miight observe that thecre were Only two ways in which a revolutionl could be permaniiientIly established. On-e was that whicht was pursued by the re,-oitionists of' England in 118811-natttly, that ot1 conriliating all parties, andl giving to every class of the commuitnity a duie Share of' Iinfliiencein the (3overnment; the other was,that whi ch,waspursued by tht 1atobinlsof Francein 1789-namehY, the establishinent of a purelyl denrocratical constitutioni, which admiittedl of only one order in the statte. Trhe Spaniards fotindetil a dentocratical con~stitution on tIle Principle that all power ouglht to emianate fromi the people; btitt whilr,i they dlid thiis, thiev exhibitedI the greatest kindness to those wito were opposed to tlitenew order of things ; and so flur was the Spl)anishii revolution froim being marked by, tlose niassacres. trhith hadI tLisnigisshetd that of France, that persons w. a were Iknown to be plotting the overthrow of the coinstititinon were actually suffiered to remiain. unniolested. What was tche con- sequen,ce of this system of mildness arid coniciliationi ? The consequence was, that at the tiliie when the Frenoch entered Spaini, thiere were no pariies in it ready to join them-onie of~ thiem consisting af'the friends of a liberal bitt modlerate constitution, and tlte othier of persions who had been fedl by thle convents, or liad robbed on time liighways-persionsA who wete hoastile to the theni exist- 'igconstitrttion, because it had deprived them of their ustual nicans !ofstmpport, by establishing peace-, juistice. and indtustry, in place of the indlolence, riotinlg, and anarchy, oni which thiey haild fbrmrs,rlv subsisted. Those 'rhio knew the Arnis- of' time Fatith 'knew that it entirelly consisted of miendicants and rolbbers-of tdronert su,ppottedl by the indiscriminate charity of ttime myonks, andt of ru ians sup. portedI by depredation and( pillage, Having obtained thle simp- port o." the frienlds of a mioderate constitution, anti also that oftshe raibble, which liatl been enigoudered in the filth of'thie old nia- narchiy, thie success of the F"rench arniy procee.led without interrup- tion r they, met withi scxrcely any Opposition, authI where topposition w as ttliredit wfAas rather the Opposition Of' in)dividitals, thati the op- position of a party. There were, however, some individuals, whio, during that shtort and unfortunate struggle, behaved in a manner worthiy oftihe freedomn for wehieh thiey contended ; there was the vir- tuotis and eloquent Arguelles-tlme coturageotus and patriotic M1ina, (hlear) -the bTave anti heroic Alava (hear),-men whiose manert, Woold never beforgotten, until tieflire of patriotismhiail ceasetl to glow in tiie bosoni of mnankind(. Wh'lat, however. liad brett the result of success attentlant on tie Frencliarmisrm Had it esmabllishedin .Spain atmy- th"ing whiichi deser-ced the name of constittiztion ? Hadt it estatblishied in Spain, anv of' those institutions wehichi liis people wvere to receive froim nio otlie'r htands than those of Fertdinand ? Had it established even tile Frenchi charter, or any other guarantee los public and pri- vate liberty ? It waEs notorious that it hiad eff-cte-d noise of thiose ob"jects. All it had yet effThctcd was to show thie people _.t Spain that their invaders had betrayed that narty aniongst thenta which had j oined thiem fromi motives tof self-ihter'Lst, and had dlone weorse than bta thsa-ho hiad joilned them in the hiopesL of receivinv froint thteir hanths a free constitution. It was worth while to considr tow tile F'rencli artitiY hail behaved iii another respect. The pie. clatnatmon wiich, tie D)uke ml'Arntouleate issued on crossing the Bi- dassoa, containied amnong the bombastic phraseology %Nrith whidsch tn dhocutments wi-re istuall) flled,thte following clear andexplicit declare. tiofn " Sptaniards,-Evers, tltiiig mvill be doite for you and with You. Th'e F'rench are not, atid wishi nor to be,any thinig Iut your auxiliari'es. Vao or Standard alone smtall floaLt os-er yvorir citis a-se doi not pretend eithler to inimpise aivs ,tn you oir to occupy y-our country w Ne ivish nothing litit Your decliverance ; as, soon as we shall lhave obtainied it, we will rettt'rn to our ow-n country, happy to have pres erveml a gets-- rous people from the- oiseries; produced by, revolution, anti 'whichi experience hias taughit us but too well to appreciate." Suchi were tile professions whichi the French leader put forth upon entering thec Spanishi territory. He meant to say nothing against either the taletit or thle generosity with which ttie Royal Duke hiad atfterwards con- duacted himnself ;- but lie would say tliis-tliat for thet sake of the inde- petidence of Spain, and indeed of every other country, it teould hare tbeen tell tinies better that a Duke at -Aira should htave been Sent tlsre,lthat anl indivridutal ishose mRoderation could hiot protect liis pro-I nilises fromy viol_.tiorn by others,and a-,hose otild qualinies otily- tendril to rivet faster the degradling fetters Ite liLd fistienedi tipoit Spain. Let the house look f'or a motment at the Situation of that uttfor- tunate natioti. In all coututries there ivere nien welise taht-ot aniti inf'ormiation qualified thtemt for leading thieir compatriots in the var.- Oue departmnents of arts ati( lIterkture. to which they, had devotemd thueirtmttention-mten, wvho3e itrtelligence placed themselves above the age in wshichi they liv-ed, anti renihcreuh t.emi the in- strirctors and benefactors of. 1psterity-nilen, whlo Itr O of line atge, but of' all timie," and who, in the lasgu:sge, of1 immtortal Soing, " .i ni memoree, aolio fet'yre serendo." Of mlen wnose getiiis and ability- conferred ltonour on the generation to whit-i they belonged, Spidin ivas not, a tews short inonths ago, enltirely tdestitute ; hut ifthtiey wishled to uniderstandu the mielanchloly cOidOuitiort to %vinui slIte was now reduced, they inust view hier a.4 She Imirai was. shorn of nil tite glory wltjch shie clerived frotn) their initelli- gence. All ti0io tree qualified to en] ghteti the darritnesa in which sh'e hail beenl so lung involved, all who couhti learn hier against the evtis OF' poptular liceuriiouspess, and teacit her tile blessing~s of' real' liburty-,all whto were fitted tomd. lvesolidity to heroitiettled constitltion. arid tti rally her chltil(te'n ritutid the banner of constituitional freetlnoit. hiad been either swepit away by the French invasion,' or wero tinos living, in that state of insetuirity to whichi despotis,m always consigined those wltose ennmitv it amtpreliendett. 'The conditiotio ,Siain was. tlierefore, worse at: piresemnt thart it was before the Csta blishent f th contitutionirl s,ystem, hb-anse formerly, itien, ifI thecy couldl not spea%k as they thought, Still could think, as -thiey pleas- et], slid mnight, if they kept'thmeir opinionis to thtemoselv'es, nierttsc, in private, V'oltaire, a-nd Mlontmesquieu, atid various other authlors, whose works were now Placeed turder the ititerdict of the Intiqtisitioni TIhlecase was nionw far differeriL Dturinig the period of tliecotistitution, all the ncts w-ho daredi to aict and thiink for themiselves, made tlheii- Selves linotro to their- countrymen;i and the conseqluence was, thatI attlie presenttimoment tiley -were unive-rsally ptrsecoted by the priestlw and the ignorant rabble whichl they kept in thecir nay. At Saragoasa o twards of 1,000 piersotis hail beeti imprisoned s emst for no other offece thaii that they were able to read and write. At other townms trin hadt beeni massa'cred because they were too enlightenetl to join in the sclieies of an indolent priesthood ; anti in one place seyeral individuals ha lha tcW eyes torn out because they wisheid to im.- part to their fellow-citAft tlte blessiings of education and freedlomi. If the French possessedi the powter of restraininig suchl excesses in thleir allies -exce-sses whit-h originatedl firom their sticeess, 'and could no0t htave taken place withotut ir._it istieltthavelfarmed saniepasia- I tion fortlicir crime ofraggression hat Jtedinoevnpsssta power r ex-Iltt in the f1r-tresses which ire coit,te ol o prevent their captives frotii becootngvcis;iiteow, where thev were not pr.esent, tIlltefinsoIiea nw ledge were' left unprotected to time futry of a despotic aristocracy, animated by the vindictive spirit of igniorance and superstition. Hlaving thus examinied the queition in its relation to the initerests of Spain, lite now. came to exansine it in its relation to the interests of Great Britaiti. le had been toldi by some persotis, that it was a utatter of' no consequenice to tiiis couastry whiether France~ retainied or evactiatedl Spain. as tIle Holy Allianc~ had neither the inclination nor the power to continuie such a career of iniquitous aggression. W'that ! after all the blooid an~d treariure whictli we hail, exjpetided to maintain the b,miatice of' power in Europe, could it be indifferent to us wrhether France was or was not to c'ommand tL~e rEsources of S,pahi ? as it of little consequence whether in future wars we were to have to contend with France alone, or with Franca and Spin nited against us ? For the last 130 years it had been a laig paint in our policy to detach Spain from the arnis of France, and it was represented by our historians as one of the mast infaumous acts of the itifamtOits reign of Charles It., that he had deserted Isis engagemients, with the farmer power to obtain the Pecuniary favours of Louis XIV. it was evident that the statesmen of France (lid not contsider it the same matter of indifference ithat our. 8tatesmen did. They foresaw, that if Spain were allowedl to enj lot a rre'ostution1 shie must, in any futur'e war, fling her sword mhto the scale of England, and not into that of France ; and therVfoye to obtain a safe frontier on the side of Spain, they deeme-d It nuecessary to crush at Mladrid the rising spirit of libertv, and to bring back its noble aspirations once more to the degrading quietude of legitimacy and superstition. Wlith regard to the will of the Holy Allies to at- tack this country,he would beg leave to say a few words. It was evi(ent from every measure that they took, that if there was one thing which they hated mere than another, it was the freedom of discitssion. The Lord Chancellor of England appeared to be peculiarly sensitive to any remarks made upon his conduct but the Lord Chancellor, with all his sensitiveness, was nor half so sensitive to them as were the members of'the Holy Al- liatice. It appeared to him like a moral retribution, that those who had the power of keeping others in misery, should be them- selves particularly irritable when even verbally attacked by others. Ifany proof were wanted that they were thus irritable, he would re- fer to t eir recent interference with the internal government of Swit- zerland.At the tieace of Paris,and indeed everv year since, that coun- try h3id received from the members of the Holy Alliance strone as. surances of their profound rcspectand reiterated protestations ot their desire to maintain wvth it all the relations of peace and amity; and yet in that very country, which for so many centuries had afforded an inviolable asyltm to all the victims of rehigiowus and political per- secution, had they been guilty of an action, which, up to the pre- sent time, was unprecedented in the public history of Europe -he meant the compelling an independent state to expel from her territory persons residing in it under the protection of re- Wular passports. ln former times, it had been customary for indc- tendent states, in consequence of particular conventions made ntI eah the, t dlivr tp ndiidulscharged with certain cti- a t n a l o f f e n c e s ; h u t r i no t hm i n s t a n c e t o w h i c h h e r e f e r r e d , t h e p a r t i e s h o f w ere forc ted ro S wt e rla n d c w er e 9.ch arg e dt w ith n o cr i mel t t hat f isvingquited teir was ou1tryih the IeAJIC 9f thNi oW;m Government, becAus they entertained political opinions different from thoje of the persons in power in it.. Such an outrage, it ought to be recollected, had,tlken -place in itlat co-untry, in wic- h' ad is- tihgiaished author said, only 50Oyears' ago, that every than was at liberty to criticise kings, witlouit fetyarnd1 without biatterv. That liberty however, no man could at presecnt venture to take there. The Uoly-Alliance had declared it to be contrary to their 4overeign will and Pleasure, and the freedom of discussion was therefore, with the inhabitants of Switzerlaisd, entirely at an end, If they couild act in a mnanner so iniquitous and oppressive towards SwnzOrlandi, bad we ally reason to think that they wvould niot act in *a simniltr manner towards us, ifthleyhad sifiiilar power? Certainlyl nlot. Ev'ery thing they hadl done, every, tlung they had left undone, conduce"d hirn, that if they had the power, they would not want the will to put down the free ili&cussion whichi was at once the pTide and support oithe British nation. The house knew thaL the trifling share of discussion which was admitted into the newspapers ot Switzerland, and whiich had so aliled the withers of this confed era- ioni of despots, did not carry with it tu the world half that weight I of censure which was contained in the unsbackled productions of our own country. The members of the Holy Alliance were-also acquaint- ed with that fact, and being so, could not but feel a muchi retranimtosity to the free press of Englanid, than they did to thle comparatively feeble press of Switzerland. The - bated, too, the discussions of our free Parliatmenit, andl feaed not only the speeches mnade from his (the Opposition) sidderf the hiouse, but also those made fromi the niiniterial benches.' The honi. meniber for Yorkshire, and, the eighti lion. sectetary litn~self, were deemed, and absolutely described by tlhem as advocates of revolu tion scarcely less oeadlssdnrOUS tian his. hornourable friend the mnember for NWestmiinster, or any other genitleman who ranked himself among the enemies of despotismT. He would give the house: an instance of the mnanner in whichi they sometinies condescended to I criticize the productions which emianated from the press of England. ~ In one of the papers vvhich were laid upon the table iii thle course of- last year, it was said-either by di. Ailontmorerncy or by 11l. Chateau-; briand, hr forgct exatctly whiceh-that it mnust be evident to allI im- j partial observers, that Spain had attacked France throuigh thle medium of the Eniglishi newvspapers. If this were so, and if it we're, thought a sufficeaet reason ibr mnaking w4ar uipon Spain, mighit it riut be alsi) thlought a sufficient reason for miakinig war upon Englanid,i Wshich had allowed herself to be mnade the instrument Of attack ?, I-e might he told that France, which was encouraged to attack -Spain by a knowledge of the weakness of her adversary, would be reluctant to attack England, froin a knowledge of lier strengthi. But, in reply, to suich an argumient, lie woutld merely say, that as long as lrelisnd remained in its p'resenit distracted state, so lone would England not be invulnerable. Mi"hilst there were noelements' out of which to formn a cabinet re-solved to do justice to the Catholic. population of Ireland, thiere- would be no elemrents out, of whbich t'o formn a permanent systemn of national security. Considering tile irritated state of' public feeling in Ireland, ant i te hiopes of its in- habitanits often excitedl onlly to be as ofteni disappointedt, he looked uiponi it to be miorally impiossible thiat thte people of that counitry should listen macli longer wvith patienice to tite arguilicnts of dile righit lion. secretary, or consitder a cabiniet to be actuated by frivendly views to themi, whlets one half of' its, miemibers was for graningili thei claimis aLs just, anid thie oilier half for rej ectting th em as est,.I ravgatit, a:tt when they only tunite-d to excite debates whichl they could not. settle, andl to raise hopes which they could not satisfy. Let it iiot be stupposed that in making these observationis he was diselositig our weak point to our eneitmies. The ordinary organ's of lintelligence to France were always showing to their readerS thle poinit in which we were most vulnera'ble. (jenitlenten who were in the hiabit of spend-: lag4 their leisure time in their respective counties iiiighit think that all the worldl waLs engage in admiiring the strengthi, and greatness,;, andi glut-v of England (;_1 whereas any mian, wvho hadl beeti ever so short: atme upoti the cotitinent, couldI not fail to observe, thiat for onec rca- stor anothIer, allI tlhe nati ons of i t were an xious to Ilin a d art a t our %ide, and to in flicet osi its a sev ere an d (Ileadly wou nd. Al nxioiixts Ithe I all were for that objet, but none of them so rinxious as that blittdi and infatuiated party, whichi is now uppermost in France, anti is eni- deavouiring, with a zeal tha,t lite trusted wouild defeat its ob.ijeci, to; restore thec old despotism to that grallant and higli-niinded nation).I There was nothing whichi it sought witht so mintch earnestniess--no- thiing which it longed so ardently to consummiate, as tile ariitiliilation of the British consfitution, the existeince of whichi it considered to) be inimiical to its own objjects;, anti fatal to its owna soprentacy. If. then, suich a feeling existed againist us upon the conitineRt, atid iij that feeling was cherished and assisted by the allied sovereignis, it remaiinedI for tie hiouse to consider how thiey shoulul oppose that for- F midable confederation. Thie firist anid mnost natuiral means of' op- i posing it was by breaking it. That nmeaure, liowever, he conceived to be inipossible. The cabinet of Austria, whichl liad foinierly I f'earedI Ferdins;'d of' Prussiia anid thien Napoleon of France, now feared the powver of Russia, khat power, awvare of the va(!flIatine$'" poiyo lte Atistriani cabinet, antd of the feceble gr+qp by a hiehi iti hed prtt of its domndionns, kept perpetually reniniinulg it, that if i idiintpu~t down inilitary insurrections abroad, it miighit soon hiave to check themiii itslb okwa doininions. The hint was not lost upon Ausitria she felt herself plediged by hier interest to stand by the Hfoly Alliance, end lite has in cons(i neince becomie one of thire most cruel and higetted of its nienbers. Prussia stoodl in a situa- tion not muchi dissimiilar to that of A-setria and it' the house turtit- cml ilt eye to Framee, it would see that the Frenchlparty whlich wvas now seeki.g~ to estabFislh an aristocracy as a part of thiat mionarchyv. felt that their interests were different 'fromi thiose of thec natioti at large-thiat toreign aid was thecrefore necessary' to their support, andi chlat of all othier powers Russia wa the nitorrad n thec munst able to afford it. Any botly who attetideed but slightly to French affiairs, couild not fail to retnark thiat the Em-: peror of Russia gave and refusetl orders anid idecorations to' thle minister3 of the Kinig of Franice. just as they obeveuh or re-. sisted has behests ; atud trust thec policy of his cabitiet was that at thE O presenit monient most in favour at ih~ palace tiftthis Tutileries,. As. then, the interest of the Allies urgedI thetii toasct in to,neert withi eaich ochier, lie looked uiponi it as next to imipossible io lireas asunder their cotifederationti anid as a titillion anid a hialf tof iten were retalv to obey, their comimands, it becailie tile house to conisider well what Means of defencve they, could oppose, if nrtcessarv, to this almiost overwtielntiniig fi3rce. Whlat, thien, itas the defen;ce of tireat hri- rain ? Every aniimal hiad sonie means of defence afforded to it liv nature;, atid so too hadl Great Britain. Her natural defence eon-' sisted in her navy. Let them, therefore, see hiow that defenice now stood, It was clear thiat the members of' die Holy, Alliance intended-i to exteathi their sytern, if possible, to South Americai. Thley, tiiale pio- fessions to this cutitltry that they, had no such iutetitions; butt th it circumtrsance made no difference in Iiis opinion, as he recollected th Li they liad ma(ie similar professions withi regar to Spain. Ile Was pe suadied. fromt the best intelligence Lthat le bail beeii able to col l,elt' that rh'y did entertain intentions inti-cical to thie indepetnience o-r! ouhAmnerica. Thiey' would not, it,eedl, sn nsie ac Itio Lthat pa.rt of' ihe world to execute their orders, as thiey had docim in the case of Spain, for there coulil be no cliance of success ffoio it, Whenl opsd by the united navies of Li&gland and Northi Amt~ rica.; butOtUey wtould sendl agents and missions to raise tip contendml itig intrerst,;_to promote discordI and civil wita-to set tawn against town, ard brothier against brothier, and to undto all tha t had bee' donie in f:nvour of fr eedonai andi civilization, in the hiope that the par-I ties, after they, hadi been wvorn out by a longseries tif ci vil comminotions. mnight at last mnake applicatioti to tlienti to be takes untler the pro- tect-ion of nmonarchical goverunment.- If thiey- should niot he able to reduce them to suchi a low condition as to ask Ifor a princee fromi their hiands, they woultd still endeavour to reduce thiemi to suchel a degree of tuisery-, as would be a warning to all othier stases r,ot to imnitate their baneflil example. The best way of' resisting nmeauresi so diabolical wouldl be. by irifuraiing tIte meiii- I hers of the hfoly Alliance, anti the French (Ivernment in particular,i that any attempt to conquer Southi Anmeica by, Spattish forces, whilst the French aTinay was in Spain, wouldi be considered as an at- tempt to conquer them by, Fraince for the Holy Alliance. The Freneit atm as now tdoing the dtuty of aii ariiedl police in Spaini, andit u111stlitt wsas performingtiiat duty, it set freesa number ohfSpanish sol- dtiers to its own amount. Event upon, the pirinciple of thie right lion. secretary himself, as stated in the papers ihow upon the table, we were bouind to be iteutral oitly so loitg as Spaiii attacked licer Coohi- inies-not wrisen site was ast.isted iii licer attack by aL third party. Now if Spain were free, he wvould admiit thiat slie would ha've a right to iu ploy a third party, to fight licer battles; the King of! Englnd ad one so wheit he emnployed hlessians to fight agaittst his Northi American suibjects; but as Spain was not at presetnt ammifiriv, he held that she had no rigzht to emiploy on gsuch atsk those troops which hail becti su!sduing her fortresses for trie Hfoly Alliance. He wished that ministers would go a step further than they kaa hitherto gone, and would say that no Spanish troops shalI be allowed to land iii Southi America, until the French army shall have evacuated Spain;, buttit tit as soon as Spain shall be free, they shall be at liberty to go Ill any numbers. HeI recommnended this policy, to his Majesty's Governmeltt, because he did not wihsl the Holy Alliance to deceive us again iii the same easy matiner that thiey hiad dleceived us before. He would now take the opiportunity of sying wodo two on the papers witicli hittd been laid ott the tale rith one or two exceptiotis, lie thiought that it wvottidistd lv be possible to give better aniswers to the questions of' the F'rench (Iovermneneam than tho- e whichl liedl beta given by the right honour- able secretary. Though such was the opinion he entertaineti of them, he could not help observing that, wletn they were stripped ofI their ornament, all they amnountedi to was this:-~ You liave cheat- ed us so often when we hive inet you, that we cannot consent to meet you again. You have falsified your word to us so re- peatedly, that we-are a,t: litst obliged to iell you that we think your faith is not to he depended on. " If that were r-eallv. the I b-lief of the righit honourable gentleman, then he called upon rite Parliament and the Government to go one atea f'urther, atid as they bad no trust in the professionis of the Boly Alliance, to show all possible jealousy of their future proceedings. lie knew chat there wer oe getlemen so particularly semisitive when the term war was menie, as to be afraid of showming any jeatloutsy' or ill-will that was calculated to leati to it ; butlie tliouglht the meci- hers of this unholy confederation were at present so distressed by their past struggles, and so busy, in repairing their sltattered finance's by British gold, that for three or four years to comne they wotild not be anxious to go to war with Great lBritain. If we waited.for those thiree or four years, and allowedI them in the mean time to pursue their schemes without interruption, he should not be sur- -orisea if, at the end of that period, they shiould have the audacity to offer to ouir consideration propositions as degradling ant Iihitmiliating ats they had recentl - dffhred to the consideratioit of Spain. (Hear.) If they did, he trusted that the ancietit spirit of this country wouildi the God of battles, boldly dare the struggle with them all. (llear.) In the remarks which he had that evening offered to the house, lie had the satisfaction to know that the cause which he had been plead- ing was not a private lbut a general cause-was not the mere cause of the independence of Eiigland, but the cause of the independence of Stain, of Europe, of the world-was not the mere causeof this or that policical theory but theglorious cause of humanity, of civilization, of science, of free lom, of every thing wlich dignified and adorned our common nature. (Hear.} The presenit contest upon the continent was, on the part of the Holy Alliance, to subdue in man all that connected him with a superior state of being. and to degrade him to a level with the brute creation. " Conecientiaai genedris htualti abolkri arbitrantur, expurdls izstasper saplentize protessoribas atqmmc osnini bono arte itz exiaizm acti, ne qutid usquavm -uonesrtmm occur- reret." Such was the policy that these conspirators against the moral dignity of buman nature followed and avowed. Every success that we gained over it was not only calcutlated to sun- port the interest of Great Britain, but to establish the independence of the world and the glory of mankind, and to secure to ourselves tite blessings of the latest posterity of every nation under Heaven. The noble lord then concluded-by moving 'i That an humble address be presented to his niajesty, praying that he vill be graciously pleased to give directiens thatthere be laid upon the table ofthat hotseconics of any conmunications which he may have received trom foreign Powers respecting the evacuation of Spain by French troops."( Hear.) Sir R. WILSON eonsidered the present motion to be one of great importance, not only as it affected the policy of this country, but also as it affected the destiny of several iillionis of Spaniards and Portuguese, which to a certain extent was included in it. Heshould therefore preserve the sametone with thenoblelord who had juststat dovn, as he was anxious toelicit. the promulgation of those opi'ons froathleriglt hon.. acetu ac hwouldnotonlybeser,c op th6 cause of Spain, but also to the cause of bumanity. After condemin- ing the enormity of the recent invasion of Spaiu,. arnd-~expressing his o1 aion tltat thb military occupation of that constry bsv France under theI preponderating influence of the Russian cabinet war dan- gerosas to the honour, power, and security of G~reat Britain, the gallant offic-er proceeded to offer sevemal remarkB; on the cluces tion of Southi Amlerican independence. He hadi heard that the GIo- vernment of Spain haLd agreed, under our ritediation, to sendI an ambassador to mneet the deputies of the South American States in London. Now If Spain, whilst she remnained in the occupation of' France, were to derive by treaty any comimercial advantages from her former provline in return for recognizing their independence, he should holdsuch mediation to he miost uniwo-thy of thie British Government, and such a granit of commiiercial adyasatages to be miost' disreputable to the South American provinces. The grant of those comnmercial advantages would be a subsidy to Spain, wouldi aflurd her the means of paying her French auailiary armv and would So postyone the day wvhen it miust evacuate , ~pain fromi wair.t o1resourcesi tdr its support. It, however, thet con- dition) of the negotiation to which 'he alluded were, that 'Ihe French shiouldi immerliately evacuate that country, then the, negotiation would he honourable to England, and also to the South Aiterican states, whom it was intenided to benefit. It weould likewise leave the Spaniard to hiiimself, aird would place him- in a sittiation wvhicli would eniable him either to obtain liberty if lie deserved it, or to )Tperptateft on hiinrself and his posterity that system whichi, at the same titime that it was a miisfortune to Spaini, was; also a scandal to Europe. If such an alternative were placed before the Spani'ard, he for oile shouldI not he apprehensive of1 the result. He thoughit that we were bound to pla'ce binin in a situation to take advantage of that alternative, not onilvy hr te duti' which wre owed to Spain. but -Ilso by that which we ow~ed` to ourselves. WVe should never be aable to recover our proper situation in the eyes of Eutrope, if wve dinI net take some mieasures rto rescue Spain froim this rasp of the Holly Alliance. He believed thiat the British Government had wished that she might never fall into it b 'ut still, thougah suich wiAs his belief, hie thouight that their co-nduct nts A'ccona, and for -s-ome tinme subsequently, had tend(ed materially to produce thlat Lln- fortunate r-esul.. lie did not blamie the GovermiTent tot- not going fto war on behalf of Spain ; but he dtid blamne it fror not pursuing, a lire of' policy witicli would have beeni eqlually ef"frctual wvith war, in prevantrting the evils which had silot e taken place. The litte of' polley whirls it ougtit to have adopted wa,(N thlis-it ouglht, as- sooni as the('Congress 0iet at Verona, to haLve tie- neouneerl the principles of the imipending wair, attd to have re- sierved to itself the piower of piursuting whatever cou-se i's interest atid its duty might require. That course, he citt- ceied,cewou1ldiave beett effectual, and why ? Because tire HOl] Iv Allianc knew, thant as soon as England shiould corote forward as the chianapioti of Europe, th-ere would scarcely be a mian betwee t he Niemen and the Atlantic who wvould niot hasteni to ratige hinrself~ utider her statimlard. The King of' France woutldi never hiave dlaredl to) stir a step after suchi a declarationi from this Gjoverotnent ;for hc whio hiad acknowledged that lie owed hi-, cro-sn to til frientisitip) (i the Pritmce Regent of' England, wrell knew that he corih(i unit w,ear it, logwithout our suipport- nte,hoee,opi-sigtemal adhonest policy wvhich lie hiad receimnended, the Governmtent gav;e to France a proniise of nieutrality thitring thle conflict whichi was theni rrolitig to comtmence. The result~ Of that pt-ounse was, to release her fro all aniety Onl our acceunt, and to enable her to blockade all1 the harbour.s and seaiiorts of' Spain. by comibining hier niaval with her miilitary opierations. As soon as, the word treu!tiality wyas hleard across the Pyreniee, tIre Ar-my of the Faith receved a freshi add(itionl to its imass of e'aganiatifins the treasoni of Abisbal, Bal. lasteroms, and Mlorilloi was gemmead the luike-wayrm fsienids of thie corirtitution were reduced to despair ;the credit of the GoveTrnment wais destroyed, anid being thuis ilicapaeitated frotti paying its em- p/ki2s at-rhvictualling its fortresses, it was delivered into thei ettemy 's vovr ams ith as little difliculty, as if it hiad been boundL boith ait .rnd foot- lie knew that it wvouldi be said that the result of thie war meorld niot hiave benti diflferent, even if England had joined as a party ini the war, seeing thiat thie coinstitutionatl partyt was t-nly I at factiani which accident hiad placed a-, Ite hiead of afrairs. He, hiowev-er, wvould always contend thaLt it was no fiicrion Thet bothy who wyere thus designated contpr:setl all thiat wass enlig7tenee., excellenti, atidt amniable, in the kinigdloii of' Spain. It weas coitoposest 3f inidividuals timli proved, that if they %vere not tlhe best stateamiein itt tWi world, titev ha lishearts wehichi qutalified themi to preside ove, itty govertmniient'ott earthi. They were especially enititled to thec sup- p-ort of this country, becuse they- w.ere thie friends of civil and reli. ,iOa9 liberty. ([ear.) I t miaht he said, in answer to thiis, that theI :ontitntior.a party stipulatedi f-mr a particular national reli-ion Ile. !iowever, would malintain, nomtwitivtanding thiat article, that there- wvas niot a titan whio assisted itt drawinig tip tIre niational rode, wIto did not feel that tiere couldi be no civil liberty whlere religious, iberty was deniedl. tle was miost certaiii, that if thecir views had Jeen successftl, the principles of religious liberty Nvould have been Adopted to its utomiost extent. The chiurch of' France were so telh swa-c f tis act tht thec war hecaitic ratlher a religious crusadle han poitial ontst.The church u,f France felt thiat the chiurchl ifS;inws in daatger. anti to keep, tip that theocracy in Spaitii elIe tea nowl estahisited thiere, the Eiiperor of Austria was will. mg to lenuilihis assistance. Even the Emnperor of Russia agrceer to ~he invasiots of Npain by France, for thie purpose of' perpetuating, is hir as possible, thie old religious system of that country 'or he vietwed the Roimatn Catholic religionl as the bes~t ca!culated 'or the purposes of a deipotic mtonarch-as thiat whiceh wouldI enable tii mitost securely to shackle the nsitids as well as the persovs tf a generous people, litnt lhow could the constitutional party be tIe- ceribedl as a Faction, whn-l such teas thie complete success of their ew,that tile N~ing Iirivuself, not weroughit on by inenacte, but minii.- mtced by public opinion, took tire oathi prescribed by the couistitu- ion This tea a clear proof that they were not a factioti. But here was atrother atid. if' possihle, a stronger one-it took- a period if eight months--it took a French army of 1-20,00( tinei, and. strove all, it took teir miillioiis sf French gold to irsake the people :iVye opl the constit utioum, attd, wi iii it, ,ehat ouighnt to he dearer 0 tlmetti thanti ife, their liberty. ( Hear.) This sitoweti that the colt. ;titutional party wa,; nut a tac loti-it hlowedi thait it was at great tower, a great csrmmiinitnut, slieltic deserved protection; ant whiich, n its titrit, would hiave mad the mieans of affo)rding aid to any toui,. ry. which, acting in support of the interests of humanirity, had hold.- 3 intetrfered its its favour. Thcy sawy the King of Spain oni his lironie-tliey saw the ol(i systcem rerived: and yet. suchl was Ithe dread mte~ttnined of thec powver of the Constitutional pa-'rty,-of thlat party ehi ch tras described as, a factiont-that the French art-o rwas still re- aindit evrvqartrofhteeniisla.levrouldnotsay. rut ti'ede_ ernce made by the 8Spaniartds 1hsd beeti of such it natturo as to olbtain dLI the itdaniratton whichl thecir formier condtuct had tieservesl, or to ;atifyv All the hoqtcs that Itai bet-ti entertaitted of' their Success. ;tihl,lhourevser, it was of ininrortarce not to stiffer the Spanish :har-acrer to be depreciated-'it was of imnportancee nut to allow lint gallanit people to 1st looked ott as quite uttworthiv et' tho!se ibstract principles of fredomn wiichi were so dear to evsery Eng- ish hieart, Ilie svotildl say, rust though tilte defence of' Spain weas iot time ablest and becst that fiighit have beeni madie, yet, cotisi. lerinig the thireat of' the Holy Alliance-consitdering the poverty if the nation-eonsiderit-.r also ouir breacht of ireutrality, lie kniew of' to oilier peopile weio couldri have res;isted so mranfuilly as thie people if Spain hind done. The Spaniards wvere not a people in a state of' tiact at rite tiits twiten the counitry wvas inv:tued: tlmev tvere icing tititer a regular government ; an(l lie defied aniy niati t'o poitit "ut any action that savoured oif aniarchy unitil the Fretich arntry up. rearedI in tl,eir country- rThe lit-at consititutional governiirent thought ill ithe dlanger was over, because tire King! ofdSpain ha~d taken the )rescrtbed oatli. They did not call to mind t le various eetmles! wvhom their coinduc-t hiad raised ult against tht!m :they had made .Yar oiitt uc nobility hby taking away their privileges--thicy had mnade wn on thie clergy, by depriving them- of hialf' their revenues-they- lari miarIe wtrr on tine vet-y armny wichiet ianl given ttemn teliritlbcr-ts, Jy di-bandring it. This la.,st act they chid, to prevent the French), if: p)ossible, fronti inter-ferineg witlh tltetin anti also, because they lvelt hie full force of the thleoretical opinion, thlat a standling arntlv moist ae fatal to liberty. fie could not do better to show the Feelings of the constitutional parts-, titan to point tue at. :e:stion of tire hiouse to the state of the 8pantish miindI at tire tmanirnt i)f tire surrenider of Cardiz. Tire preople w'ere not s;es-ponsible f(irt wlntit Lbicir Government dlid ; and ttir et ctusitutional party at that tim-e remained. withi their lionorir uin%ullied, quite prep at-ed for resistance, and worthy to receive any protection whichl this country might be inclinedi to give. They all knewv thazt C,adiz comnmunicated withi the tontivient. by a long neck of lanid, which irequired a cons,iderable force to defend it. Tue place itself was 25 miles in circumnference, and re- .girted at least 25,000 enii for itsdlefence. liVhat, he asked, was the real force of Cadi-z, af'ter the capture of tire Trocadero (svhere I ,500 urne were slaughitered), avhile the Frenchi fleet commanded the etiti're wast ? The whiole force amouinted to 91700 men. Not a (4r-vt'nm.r_ ic-fr-La_nor a 1s:disadle was erected : there were no stores in the na-gazinecs-noprvioscorih obtained. It was tine titers acre plenty of provisions in thec towvn ; but it was dlirectedl that those provisions'shouldl tinot be takeis, 'because if tlirev were miade use of, it was fearerl tiat the inhabiutant weould have evinceril a hiostile spirit. ~lier, ear) Inthetresury onthedayv tire city surreitdlredl, titrs ereony 1 dolar t pa ttC aut; antioiiOt tile batteries thee wrebit ise iees f ras nno lt for service. Tirere were profs hic cold rothe hakn, hatthe Spaniards, duririg tire 4cge wee nr rnmmdfri oftheitrwesandl glory of trheir ancestors. hile the bombarmnltrrmtwas goin on, mn oe,a children, mnighitbeseenaiwi-,iiating each otherto resistance. Thter ewasa forlorn hope,consisting in par-t of mnen of highi considieration, whto, at that critical period,wserersluitre prepred to sacrifice their lives fortire good if their fehllre-countrymtr r. A Spaisiardl teas capable of the most hieroic exertion, of tire noblest effort, when once hiis mi-ind was Tousedl and iexcited in a just- and honourahle caus,e. He was boruidto de- fend the Gotvernmnent of Spain, not against any positive chiarge, but agaist ertin emars wichwer inulged in on a formier occa- non whts orte aluson as iad tothe deposition of the King oh' Spai. le kere tht todepse kig fr a few dlays looked like a foly i appare to e anactof isaniy ;and yet ie wvorinl( vets. tore o sa, tht tht vey ac, somuch cneriitied, and treated int so sarastc maner ws tre alatin otde King of Spain and of the royal fam-ily. It was only under an act of the .Constitution that the King cornld, be possilbility, have been, brought to Cadiz. He was determined to erect a despotistai-he twas determiined to pe-se cute every man whoi toght libetallv, and more estedivcah thiose wlio were at tire headl of the new Giovertnment. This it-as weell- known:; and such was the general feeling againsrt hinm, that if he hadi fallen ito the hands oif anybody -f Spanis i troops ,it woull have been impassible to have prevented them from executing a sanguinary act of vengeance. It was For hi; preservation, and for that purpase only, thai a eenrporary' deposition teas resorted to. Those who advised it wvell knew that roe people would chesfrfully obey any act whici the coistiituonal arhorites sanctioned; and in consequence of their policy, the King was staffered to proceed on Iiis journey unmolested. The reward of those weho had tlius ensured his safety, was an unr-c lentinmg proscrintion idirected against them and all their cont-exions. The delaLy in the evacuation of Spain by France was occasioned, it was said, by the necessity of preserving tranquillity in that country. But how coulni lie place any confidence in the promises of France, when he recollected that the Duke d'Angouleme himself refused the proffered mediatnon of England. That proffer was made in the plainest manner dtuing the siege of Cadiz; and thc answer was, that Trance *ould not allowv the interference of any power, much less that of England, she being determined to efface every shadow of the con- stitution. WN'hatin other respects was the condcrlcofrhe Duke d'An- goulene ? Did he not, in violation of all honour-i:l opposition to every feelingof clemencv-surrender to his most implac.able enemies the brave, the patriotic, the virtuous, but, he grieved to say, the uRs- fortunate R;ego? (Hear.) He did so-althosigh lie must have known, that ti} his exertions, he (Sir R. Wilson) might say,to that gallant individual's personal courage, the Kimigowed his life. (Hear, hear.) But posterity would do hiirn justice. His name would live in tIre annals of history- gloriously associated with those patriots wvho had died in the causc of liberty-whlile the names of the Duke ti'Angouleme and of the murderers of the gallant Spamitard would de4knd to posterity, accoripanied wvith loathing amid execration. (Her, hear.) It was said that Ricco had been guilty of cruelLy. He denied the assertion; and he denied it on this ground-that if such a fact could have been eddac.d, if such a fact lisad existed, the regency of Spain would have introduced that fact into the indict. ment against Riego. (Hear.) He therefore would maintain, that the execution of Riego was a foul nlurdvr, (HXcar, hear.) He hoped Ing a motin made last vear by the honoujable -member 1for, C~I]ne (Air. Mlacdlonaldl). It at that time they refusciltd. toaanc~ ttte an acddress of the nature then proposed, he thought tha7t the same consideraition wotuld flow suggest the coeiudiiir6 5sf the game prudent sytctn. When they- refused th'eir inte'r- Ifeeence last year, it was because theay felt the necesity of 'thiq temPorary occupation of Seain by France-dke satlie, Mims-e nity, he believed, still extited; and thetefQta fie"Ithuqlt they ought not to) agree to a motionwwhif &?ld TIS nia very dlifficualt situation; besfdfs--if Ibis iovemnafilnt wrerea in_ a dictate5,W nmanner to state whzatk~fo .!tbo tht Usticoiirut'of Fxince ought o be, t migh woun ti )iigi ignlitye, of that power, and lead to circumstancesof anuunoleaiadt nistire. 'AS to the opinion 'Which this Government heldoPr tlo- octopation of Spain, It was clearly and unequivocally laid down in the despatch ol Sir Charles Siuart, of the 31st' of MVarch, 11127. The bououtrible restleman procecded to quote froin Mr. Canning's depatsch to gsr Chartles Stuart, of the 31st of March last, the conditions of the neutrality to be observed by this country in the war be.. t'wee Sp'ain ad France ; and contended that as far as couild be jiudged fraomn what had already transpiren, those conditio-ns. France meant rigidly to observe. Thec first proviston hadl been. abided by- that Portugal shouldl remi-ain untouchied. I pon the second, relative to South Amierica, such assurances as the house had deemed satis- factory were already upon its sable ; and he wouldl ask thlem, wvhat Peculiar circumstances there were about the mode in which Spiain Was ccuied by the French armny, which should lead the bousi to prssinscsprematurely on the subject, or to suspect Frane of an intentioni to Violate that faith which, up to the pr2sent point, she tihad m'ost perfectly rautirained ? lHon. nmembers would not forget temanner in wivhich the right hon. Foreign Secretary had been call ed upon, for disclosures withi respect to Southi America, at the com.. rnrncesrent of thles,ession-.theurgencv with which hebhad been pressed so seak ut pon hat uesion-henit turned out eventually that thever viws hic th riht on.secetry was charged with de- l.aing hehadactall coimuicaed ourmonths before to eveny Govenmen in uroe ~nl a oreworthy, dignified or states- manlike dcument thn that whch contained dhem had never. lie ( NIT. Littleton miglst. venture to say, issueti from the office of a ininister. Fo.r himnself, he did not know nt whiat tin~e precisely thec evacuadTio of Spain by France was fixed to take place:'- but he shouild feel no surprie at seeing the Foreign -Secrterwr shortly come f'orward. with docnuments whirls Proved him to have been loiigin possession of the most satiefut.cory,as. 'urances upon the subt'ect. But, upon what grouind the suspicion of France rcsted, hie nmust proteus himsel'f unable to perceive. Surelv it wa-s not thtat we enivied hier its her present sittiaslion. If the riglit boa.- secretary bad been so faLr itnimical to France as, to wishi to see her in a condition4 of peculiar dlifficulty, lie couild rot have imagined : muchimore tro)uhIesonmrpost tha-n she stood inat presruit. France, in occupying Spain, hiad seized a wolf by the ear, whom she could aceithcr ~xpect to hold fa,,st, n)r venture to let goof. Louis XIV. had discovered wheni it was too late, the effects of interference with that country andi Loui% XV [ ll, was now trying rairuly to tranquil. liar a propi' in whom. every energy, was exhausted, except that rest.. Ic&%neszs ofspsi-it which revolutionary changes never failed to engender; anid which most likely wonuld tempt thens to rush its fury upon the Government just tstablishedt, whenever the protectioni whicht sup- ported t- at the present inoment -was le,d,m,,i- Thecre was anno. t Cr circurntance-oori to wlhich he had just alludedi-.which should induce the house to pause before it pressed the Government for as.. ~ur-inces as to thc e-vacuation of Spain, or suffred any motion to he founded upon the sUbjeCtL France herself, it should he recollected, 12ad been SUbietded tO mlliliusry occupation ;and England, whio was now to challen-e her cond(uct, hiad beeni the orccupying power. It ooight to be remembered, belfi-e we railed hastity uipon France to -accunt for her continuaince in Spain, that we ourselves hadl sat down in France foir three Years at the headl of 1510 000 mnen. No fears nerd be entertaine-d for the infliuCT'Ce of Englanillno douhtsof her sx,ccndanc v in the affairs generally of the ws.rid. England was,, in truth, (lhe onily free country in) the world. 'I lie despotic grovern. menits were aware of this fact, anid knew how her moral influence douabled and treblel the effec-t of her numerical strength ;this it wa,and this alone- that had rendlered hier the "Caput o'bis inter motuis ominiunm gentiusi"i Upon the whoole, he (Mir. Littleton) conceivedi that rue mnotion of the noble lord was foundedi upon a jealousy of the conduct oif the French in Spain. As far as hiis view' wenit, it did not occur to hiTm that a-ny sufficient cause tor such jealousiy ex. teed and tbe shouldi therefore sit down, by mnoving, as a-n amendmenet irpon the noble lord's resolution " That this heutse, being satisfied of the firmness and soundl policy whiceh htas iguidedisis 3laJesty's councils in respect to thieiatehostilities between France and Spain, snd considlering the several conditions by wvhich the declaraioz uf Eniglaild's neuitrality in the contest was qualified, sees nothisg in the rreseni circumstanices whiceh rails upon it ro ex. tiress any apprehenston of a permanient military occupation of Spain by the atms of France." (Cheeis!.) NJr. 600)CH paid a sincere tribute to the spirit antl Patriotism of thec3nlIantmermber opposite (Sir IL Wiilson); but decidedly supported the aesndrent of the lon.sent.who ha-dlast spakeni. As itseemed to him, the noble lord (L-ord J1. Russell) had laidI no sufficienit ground's for 4is Tmotion. Yr. CANN ING rose, after thie question had been ptut from the cti.and whidt the P:allery was clearitig for the purpose of a divi.. ~ian. He had waited, lie s'aid, andl naturally, unrtil the very, mo- i2ent -hen the house was beine calledt on for its derision ; for he could scarcely persuadie himiself, that a motion, brought foward after such immense preparation, and a motion, to the effective prosecution of which one othier hapless- motion had already been sacrificed, was iz.elt'. in its turn, to be abatidoned by all the accustomed supporters of" the noble rmover. (Hear, hear.) lie could hanhlly believe, see.. ina as~ he did biefire hiim it moat considerable victim, who had, on a former night, been completelv deLserted, (hear, and laughter), andl A hos.r friendsout of doors hiad given him asa reason for that desertion utart the great effoirt was to be mnade upon a motion yet to come, andI that it would nor be prudent by any previouis display, to weaken the impression whirls was tfsen'to be pqrdthced, (hear, hiear, -rid cries~ of -No."s-he really could scarcely be convinced, when he beheld and recollected these -things, that the debsate of the present r,iht could have been about to clos-e utt the mointent wvhen he hadl taken it ap t and that not only thit' motion of the noble lord opposjite was to -o entire1v, unsupported, but such an amendment as that r,_rei ;se by tcit &be-ni einiser for Stafford ituffirred toipass *iithotut a st-uLzle az ainst it.. (Hear, hear.) But,iflhe was surprised, hewas no:, diisatisfied w-ith the disposition manifested by the house: forit was imipossible to iook at the noble lord's- motion by itself, or to con.. eider it in any othier lighit than as the last of a series-no--he begged pardri-:it was, only t4e third, a-id it might not (lauglhter) be the la,t-~ - whi ch a" at'temnpt had been mnade to take'6ack something fromn thze recordedi app'robation of the house. H e said f rom the Tecord'ed apt. probation of th-e house, antd he thoighit lie might add, of the settled opir-ion of the countrY, in favouir of the condugt of Government in d,e Lite nntie.t between France a6nd Spain. (Hear, hlear.) Twelve rionths back, whnthe first great attack had been brot'ght forward, i- had been anticipated that the triumiph of those whio put the Go.. vrCinnient upon its trial would be complete. (Hear.) The debate was sobeLru-iu'sipantmrnot overpowering-but final. (Hlear and lauighter.) All who had ,taken part, even slightly, in thec imipugned transac- tnor.. v-Mr to be szwept awav ; aind for those peculiarly responsible. thieir remainis wcre not ito he found-their ashes to be collected by their friends. (Much laughier. and " hlear.") But how did the :iffair turn oukt ? Where was the victory anti thec song of joy?- E:zi:ue ergu qlua cesu' "Hide blushin:g glory-hide Pultowat's day I Never had rout and overthrow been so complete ! (Laughter andI r-rewm cneers,) The records of P'arliament afforded no example of ecctso unqualified-of suchi utter projiigetioll uf' argumient. In no are. atrm periodi w-ithin thestretelh of iParliamentarylhistory, could an' ins:=ancebe fouyd of a failure so heavy; orof any fadlureby's thou- Pasdi h paet ro perfect]lygrievous amid ext &nsiive, taiking in to.accouint the co-nnfortabl eanticipatio,ns hi', wh iich thle eniterprisNe had been ushered in. (Ecsiela-aghter. and cheering,.) Upon that occasion (the first debate) thne general policy of Governmient had receivetI the approba. tnon of the ho Se. rhar, thierefore, as to the main consideration, the question was, at an enci. But in the course of the next session, thie war havinz concluided, it was thought that particular -parts or the transaction oulghlt be selectedi, in which blamie might, olt to a certain po-int, he fixedi upon the Government without astcking-what would have been inconvenient-th gereral vote of aDpr-obation : and on that occasion a noble lr oppo.. Rite (ILorA Nugent), after briniging forward the questo in the shape of amost unreasonable and untenable proposition, convey. ord in a most tewiprate and eloqaent speech (hear, hear), had been left in the deserted state to which he (M1r. Cannilig) had alreadv suffirienty adverted. The noble moveron thep resent evening hail comne forware upon a second insulated potint, and he, in spite of his noble allyv's fate, eaPected to miake a considerable impression. But he (MNr. C'arminin) said ag-ain, that it was impossible to view n,it noble I nrd's proposition singly. The proposition was nut thlat was c,ntra-v to the is?terests of this coiuntry that Prance shoultI r-iiatrin in po ssession of SpainI. If that were the proposition, it woulti be aprnpositior, self es,dent-a Propos4ition which no man could think nFconn-adicting-nnman Lcould s,P,op ue thatit vas the policy of Etig.. lan-d that France should rnssain in t e permianent possession of Spain; bui the proposition of the noble lord (Lord Joist Russell), takell fan-li'. came to this-when the house had c*me to the resolutiots ref deeidirg that it was not expedient for England, at the risk of c-mprorni 4esglher neutrality, to prevent thie war between Fratice an`d SpaIin,~ it hadJ not cont~mt)lated a temporary occupation of the latte-r coruntry by the troops of the former ; the quiestion now wasj whether that occupation hiad been conducted in such a sprit, or 'ha continuedi for such a time, as to raise a fair presumption, on our parts, that it was meant for other purposes than those which were profesosed : and it This could be made out, whether the noble lord oppos~te k-ad a right to call uon the house for an expresskion of opi- nion upon the sub ject or wuhether, that fact not being made out, ten-^ -as sufficirni in the general proposition of thle noble lord, ap-. plied not to the aspect of im-nediate circumstances,but to the received pollerT. and ordinary conduct, and probable views of Franee,whsether therewassufficienti"sthissaetwraihmncliguoreos for ics interferenc? owdehn meberfrSafr a d anti truly, that ith nollrdealy thoughttatheocptn of Smaini had cont e ogrta as consistntwhtesatyo EnzlaIsnd, he shoul aemvdo for payers,ashhdcotne himself with dn"now, but, at once, for an adress to hsis lila- jesrY. prayinjg thte would rail.upon the King of Frastie to with.. A slraw nii stir. tut the noble lod set oust by a course which was ,egae vein it,seW He began by saving " I will believe no as- sarances given by France," and concluded by desiring the house to get at those assurances ( Heaf, hear. ) Why, if the assurances were good for nothing, surely the noble lord ought to look for some better ecurity; but.. srtting out b saying that nothing wvhich was stated by France could bebelieved, he then- fell short of his o-n inference, and was satisfied to stop with moving for French declarationls. The question, however, was, whether the noble lord had laid a Parliamentary ground for the produe- tion of the assurances in question ; and he (M51r. Canning) wvas ready, ro argue the point in any wPay.to suppose either the existence ofsuch professions, or their non-sexistence. He would uppose Govem- mers t o be in possession of assurances from France tbat the occupa. uion of Span was to be given up at the first practicable moment ;- then. if tnose assierances wvere produced, the noble lord would be bound to say he did not believe t em. On the other hand, suppose sclh ssarances not to exist, and auppose them not to exist because s had not been asked for-then, how did he (Mr. Canning) e.a:d bimself? His defence was a short and a plain one. fIe st-i lrat at the outset of the quarrel between France and Spain, :>ets z:7sntr had qualified her neutrality by three sipecific con- g-rs. le farst of these was, that Portugal should not be .ad.. Tae second was, that there should be no interference with . ~,Menrsr. Tne third was, that there should be no permanent ? m-n?of Spain. And thougl there was no distirnct declaration r4'ed in tre despatches as to what would be the consequence of c these conditions, vet no man who was in the least de- 's n diplomatic affairs, would deny that it must hive been n-t a rsdtod that no violation of them would be permitted by ''kf'- For two then out of these thlree conditions, they rs..ec. : , virtually performed. PorttSah had not been g - end South America was left untouched.for- every ;4g;i the delarations of France upon that last point B ? eut.. Then, if two of she French conditions had aIre4ay bWn,.perftiqnea'jin coure, what right 'haa we to dubVethe due~rf~p1aee fAh thrd?Three monthisbatik,if thiedeclais. dions at1S0141 Atmeria bad been askedl fbr,. tber r6uMd not ha~ee .;nrdcC4, ~ -l.44n)ideclininig obriig them forward, filtrA-baYe thati he o&upied ~at preseiit. liayi obt inedJt ;.but there would, only then have been dne pledge frOi in Franib ,flkal, aind that the wealkest, as an argument, be. caus&tlish ptatiorsa was the least to its violation. But, two condi- tions.-one a rmost natural one-were now complete; and Govern- muent surely hafl a righit to claim exempition from the necessity of farther diseoveries.-discoveries which, as regarded the noble lord, would be-of no value, because nothing hut the flaet could prove the fact ; nothing buit the actuial evacuation of Spain could convince those who were unwr'illing to believe that shie ever would be evacu- ated. For, himself, he dedlared, as a minister and an indivi- deal, that Ite believea Fra-nce was as aLnxious to put an end to the occupation as the noble lord, or bis friendIs, could be that she should Put an end to it, but he was equally sure, that if it were puit to him. to say should she-.that was,France-mnarch out now, or should she not, it would be quite beyond hits Power to say that she should. (I- er, ea.)But it was asked, how long was France to remain ithpoesion of Spain ?-.was she to hold the country until-Fer- dirnand VII.- gave free institutions to his subjects ? In onie sense he should say hie believed, "Would to God that she were,;" and in aniothier, thate Itooped to' (ld that she was not. Would to God that she were, because sihe would, as institutions stood,prevent much ilL. Heaven. torbid she should, becaut;e he feared shie would have to remain for ever. (Hear.) One thing, however, he would say--and it swas only candid towards F~ranice to avovw it-he did believe that whatever absenice there wasofeavers'horror and cx- cess in S~pain, was owing to Frenchi interference, and1 to the presence of the French aruv. He desired not to be misundersto-od. He by no means Intended to say--and Hleaven forbid that he shouild say- that this fact redeemed Prartce from the original sin of her ihsva- sion. (Chieers.) That question, however, was past: it stead in some sort with the transactions of former ? ears. Ile did not de- fend the act lie did not Palliate it. He was against it upon every principle ; and would resist it if it wer-e todo again (much cheering), at any hazard short of going to war. But evenits mutt be jutdged of in so-ne measure as they, went on ;andl thtis mauchi he was houind to admnit as an honest m-an-hie (lid niot believe that in clhe annals of history there wvas aniy case of an invading army-not a ca-se cs'en of a friend(ly fo-ce in a thoreign country, except it were a forcee be. longing to (Ireat Britain,-no othier instance upon record in which eitker invaders, or allies, had themiselves done so little mischief ina foreign state, and had prevented the doing of so muchi. (Repeated cheersi.) The termination intended by France to her military occu- pation of Spain hiad all along been earlier than hie conid hav'e hoped for, and she still intended, if possible, to keep her day. W4ith respect to the mode of the occupancy, and even the seeming intent of it, he thoug,ht misapprehension in somie qutartersexisted. A n hon. miember (Sir R. Willson) had advertedl to the occupation of Cadiz; and stated that fladiz, to be useful as a miilitary post, must be occupied by at least 25,000 men. Now, as it certainly was riot occupied by one 'half that r'iumber, it would follow that it could not be retained wiha mfh~,view 4 and, in truth,. thte political events connected with it- its having bceA a nurt of rival capital, aind the point at syhich the consituion as enertedwoul suficintl expainits being oc- copid uderthepresnt sta. I ris tae wy wth respect to Badaog, her wasa neessty wich xplinedtheretention of; it.Themos emnen Geera oftheagehad declared that he did not consderhimelfsat atCads, inlss e coutld hold Badajos at the sanietime. But what wasit that the French were doinz in'thieir oc-, cupation....hn What wvay were they employing their influence ? WVere the uringonthecrultes o wic th patynow having the as- cendncyIn pai wee bu to muh iclied?Were they foster- ing he looy vnditiveprejudceaofte moniks, orexciting thieblinid furyof he opulce?On he cntrry,they were protecting, the very peopl who the had nterd th coutry to subdue : by a strangeI coure ofevens thir holesitutionandbusiness in Spain had be. comechaged.The hadgon int th coutryto defend the fans. itrl prryaganstsheconeittioalits;andnowthey were actuallyvI intrfeiWgforth costiutinalpaty withi the fanatics. Hfow longthi ~ytemwan o lst,he Mr.Canoning) did not know. Onlya fr~ng!i bak, h ha hoe~tforits early termination ; but every suceceskive post since had lesed that expectation. Of this, however, he dici entertain the mos deied coniviction-thiat, whien- ever the time camne that Spain might be left to herself withi safety, France wvould he as muchl p leised in the proSPeCt of withdrawing her troops, as England couild possibly be at seeing her cvacuate the country. He should now co-me, then;, shortly, the right hon. gent. continued, to the objection whiich had been taken to the mode in which the neuttrality of this, countrty ha(l beeni conducted. Neutra- lity, he tr'usted, liad strictly been preserved; hut the preservation of it had not been altogether so easy as mighlt be suipposed;, and it was worth while to observe, thiat some difficulties had been thrown in its way by those whio were among the moat ardent sticklers for its maijiteniance. ([lear, hear.) If two headis of families agreedl withi each other upon ainy course, and aniy of the members of either of those families chose to take nicasure in opposition to the agree- ment daccidled on, would not the leading party, whose friends hail thought it righit to do this4, be corn pelled to go a little farther, per- liaps, than he would have othierwise dlone, in ordler to acquit himnself of Possible sutspicion ? fie h-id listenedI to thte noble lord (Lord Russell) with a feeling, if hie mnight be allowed to say so, of' grat kindness. He fuilly appreciatedI the principles upon which the nibie lordI's views had p'roceetedd: hut the noble lordhbadhimin- self heen one of the greatest imp1ediments to neuitrality. (Hear, anid lauhtr) There was aniother noble lord opposite, too (Lord iNu- gent who; was an enormous breachi of neutrality. (IMuc'h laighiter.) tmight he a drtill proeeeding, arid savour sormething of the "1 shop" to ask the attention of the house to a Passage in Vattel. Vattel was not so mnodemn an authtor as Bynkershoek, and perhlaps, indeed, a writer who couldi scarcely be nanied in the present dav of liberal opiniions. The-re seas a' umne, however, in which he' had held a reputation and indeed there was a little circumstance with respect to Byrnkershoek-Bytikershock had been quoted by san hon. anti leartied ikentlemuan opposite (Sir J. Macintosh) as layiiig dowii a prtfictular principle as his owin opinion, and as tIme practice of the United Provinces (to whlich lie was secretary); but uipon examine. tion it hiadiappeared that the principle was laid down as"Bvruier- hoksoiion certainily, 1sut not as the practice - of the ....t.. Prvneks.o (Laughter.) In consequence of' which, wlhenever anyv princi pIe was stated from the opposite side of the house in which those whio sat with him (ill r. Canning) did not eni- tirely 'a-ree. the custom was. to c-all it a Bynkershioek. (M1itch laughter.) Vattel, however, lAid it down, as'a principle not to be departed from, that the right of mnaking war or peace belonged to tile Sovereign or the builk of the nation ; and that itidividnals could not be allowedl to act upoii their owli piersonal sense ol justice, be- cauise, in that case, peace betweeti nations could nev'er continuec to~ be maintained. Now, it being recollected that both thieSovereign of England and the bodyof the English natiots had decided abholutely for neu!mlity -with France, let the :ioble lord opposite pat himself for atnonent iiittie situantion of that foreign Power when she heard that a distinv-uisheri ineividual froisi England lied lauded on the coast of Spun annltnrrg he promnpt arrival of an army of 10,000 ien!, Hear hea.) I s'uld be answered, that the mien never dici arrive. sLaugter.)Why,lie (Mr.% Canning) knew that ; but it cras not quie s crtan tatthe Frenceh Government would be aware of it. Indeed, the ef~ect of the statement liad been to draw the war to that part oh' the couyntry in whiich it had been put forth. As a bilister ptit tipon thie foot drew the humours to that point from otlier parts of the body, so the landing of ithe rallant in- dtividual in cuestion biad' drawn the contest to the quarter in which he appeared. (1 Hlear, liear," and laulhther-) lie gave full cre. rit to the gzallant gentleman in questioni or his spirited exposture of both fortune and pers~on (hear, hear) ; for the determination with whichi he acted upon his opinions and principles, atnd- the free expen- ditutre which lie was alwrays ready to make of his persottal secutrity. (Hear, hear.) But it was thie dulty of' Government to look at matters with othier eyes than edie eye'o0fan indlividual, Ilie (Mlr. Canning) felt, as regarrled the pledge of Etnglandi, what it was thlat the gallant tuiember was, doing ; an'd, if Fra'nce did not remTonstrate, there was only the mnore need for thlis countrv to disavow. (Hear, hear.) 'Phen every word of disavowal s-o uttered, let it be recollected, ssa.st Pro tcnlo a hsuimiliation. (Hear.) It was saying at least that we had sormething to apoloigize for. (Hfear.) And lion, gentlemen compilained that Governmnent had nor maintained a sufficiently high tone It was nor very easy, they must be told, toblusterin one tone, while we hiail to extenuate in a:suther. (Much cheering.) Under the Circumstances, lie had felt it necessarv to write to Sir Charles Stuart, stating that he could not. disavow'in termns too strong, both for the Government and personally for every meanber of it, all con- nexion svith, or approval oh. the enterprise of the hon. and gallant gentleman. He had been .compielled Particularly to make this ab- juration with respect to the individulals connected with the Govern. inietit, because the hon. genthentan batd happened to senid ouit his firs t dlespiatches to Corurin.z under his (Mr. Canning's) cover. Thatniiea. sure had ofeoursegsecured thieir safety. Hle lied felt the delicate situation in hir itplaed im;but the individual had preponderated. Ile lied felt it incuimbenit upion him most distinctly to disavow whit thle gallant gentleman was doing ; and he had dione so). [ ifere t~ bono, gentleman reati an extract from a letter ut Sir Charles Stheri wichiel lie hail dlesired the disavowal ihe poinit to be imade.I At t'lie samne tien, he hadl stated that the service of volunteers was not uti- auithorized by the lawv of nations, and that it did not expose the itdi. vidluals rendl;ring it to any penalty : the lion, gentlem-an would see, therefore, that althouigh lie liead been compelled to disclaimn his mea- sures, he had not beau unobservant of his initerests. (deIar, hear.) The r-ight honourable gentleman) read to the end ofthtle papDer, whichl imnoorted the readiness of his Government to off'er this disclIailner, thlough it was withi themn not the least part of the evil that they were suibjected to rite bLinsillation of havriti to excuse themselves with thie Fraticli Govarnmen.. (Hear, hear.) That was the condition in whiich the lionouraLble gentleman placed his Goventiment, withi their liberty of acting almos't taken away-their armas fcttered-restrained in their conduct-lowered and humbled to the degradation uf making apologies to theGovernmentoh'Frauce.( l'iear.) The hon. ent.,htiwever, was not the only person who liad helped to p lace the GoYemmetit in' this predicamnent, thioughi other parsons who bad deportedI tliem- selves with similar behaviour, haLd nor reduceil mninisters to the ne- cessity of making excuses: for at the time that he, wvith that ga- nerous prodigAlity of his services which he had lavished upoii a cause not quite deservixg of it, wais paying the penalty of his gal- lantry and courage in one quarter there airose in. aniother qutarter of that country anothier luminary, wito, though ha might not have ad. dressedt hi Mself to the state of the country it as much military' enect as the non. gent., certainly did not fall behind Itehon.gen- tleman in military intention. (Laughter.) He did not wish to pry faxrther into matters than was neoessary, and by some it might be thought that in what he was about to say he was going too far: but in cases of this nature, it was the duty of Government to know what was going on ; else, by giving way to too much secrecy in respect to the couduct of individuals, they might, before they could be sufficiently aware of it, become involved in hostilities bv the warlike conduct of their own subjects. (Hear and laughter.) To'go on to hisnarrative: it was about the middle of last July that the heavy Falmouth coachb-loud and long continued lautghter)-that the heavy, Falmouth coach (laughter) was observed travelling to its destination, through the roads of Cornwall with more than its usual gravity. (Very loud laughter.) There were, according to the best adlvices, two inside passengers (laughter)-one a iady of no ineorsiderable di- mensions (aughter), and a gentleman, who as it had been since ascertained, was conveying the succour of 'his person to Spain, (Cheersand laughter.) He was informed and having no reason to doubt his infornant he firmly believed it, riat in the van belonging to thecoach--(gentleinen mustknow thenature and uses of that auxiliary to the regular stagecoaches waa a box, more bulky than ordinarv, and of most portentous contents)-it was observed, that after theiir parival, thibox a$nid the passenger bforeomentioned became incse- parale.Thehexwas now known to lhave, contained the uniform of aSpansh gnera of cavalry (much lauxghter) ; and it was said (if the helmet, whichl was fay beyond the usual size, that it exceeded all othe hemetsspoen of in history, not excepting the celebrated o trant. (Cheers and laughter.) The idea of going to the reifo a fortress blockasded by sea and bealeged by land, wivth the uniorm of ahghtcavxlq officer, was new, to.say the least orit.About this time,the force oferedoby thelson.gent. wbichhaa never.1 exLsted, but an paper was ia at probability expecteu-he would not stay to dse-tuine whethlVit *0 to havt congitedw p1m or 5,00 men. No dlodbt, upon (be atrMil ofAtheeneiaa1rn his uniform, theI Cortes must have rubbed the4r handsn with satisfaction, and con- clueled that now the promisea force -was com;ld,he woula have little more to fear. (Laughter.) It did comeismtho it as ever wouldl have been seen byv the Corteso he1b utit came in tbat sense and i,vno other, whic.h wasecrb.' awtynl- r.,an, George Duke of Buickingbam,whmhobelrdpose reckonecfarnng his lineal ancestors.Intepaoft Rhaa, there was ascertic ccdpiell with tlie desinoftotuprstowo one of thteir party entering sayr,7"is The army at the door, hti igie " Entreats a word of both your aete. Vevw loud and continued laughter.) Suchms ~v et the ef- ~et of t'hearriv3l of the'neble lord. How he.a vdor what e'ffiects he operated on thie cou jcils and afar o leOrsbyhis arrival, he (Are. Canning) (lid not know. Thnsweeathtnc- ture mnoying too rapidly to their final issue. Ho a h ol ord conduced to the termination by, plumVing hib egtit h sink. lug scale of the Cortes, was too nice a qeuafrimjust niow to settle. (Cheers and laughter.) But it must b evident that by circumstances like those to which he had alluded, the Go- vernment, if it exercised commosn and necessary caution, was called upon, without any appeal fromi the Frenich Government, for dis. avowal. It was not for hiim to condemn the principles andi motives which ledI the hon). gentleman tortnake that generous sacriflce of him- self to the cause of Spain ; but th..t which he u4rged was, that if they would have that neutrality on the part of the Government, they must be content to be bound by~ the feelings, expressions, and de. terminations of Government, -nor ought thev to expect to be al- lowmed individually to carry on war against a Government with whichi their own was in amnity; and in doing to they compelled their own Government to go, farther than otherwi3e they need to go from the strict line of neuitrality, and to say more than they would otherwise say, in order to set the balance or.ce disturbed apain even. Tliere ivas another part of the question upon which he differed fromi the noble lord whose motion they were niow disussng.Thenobe ordinsste, tatwhile Spain was in the occuatin o Frace,shold ny Sanih frcebe raise-d to send to Sout Ameica,thatougt tobe cnsidredin all respects a-s a Frech orc, nd s sch retedby ret Britain. Now, so far e wuldconedeto te nblelor ,tat this would be a question of degree. He could imiagine such an occupation of Spain by Fraicre as would lead himr to conjecture that it was for other 'purposes than those professed byFrance; audlhe couldirnsgine,thasifuadersuch an occupationi any, very considerable levies of Spanish troops were raised to he sent against South America, it would be a strong indi- cation of that dispiosition on the part of France But they were to look ats things an they now stood : there was nothing in the condi- tion of she French forces-.nothing in their distribution-nothingi thequlit o thirocc~stio.--nohig in the mode andcodt hitert emloyd a tothe-nohig in the councils or the praciceof te Fenc Govrnmnt-othing in the declarations of te Sanih Gvernentto eadto any iniference that Llie FrechGovrner. hd tatintnton. Ile could not argue uipon any case which stood in direct contradiction to the views and poicy of the Frenchi - Wiokarnment. Hi~ answer would he-oo at the~ papers on thie Oble, and it would fbe seen that the French Governmenit closely approximiate to the views of the Eng- lish with respect to the Spanish American colonies. With tioske who would say, "1 I can't trust the Frenchi-I don't believe a word of their assurances," there cii4ld be no argumrent of any kind: no assurances of anyso:rt could pri-'aiil with themi. He was sure that the French Governmient looked at the question not precisely in that point of view in which it was considerec by the Englishi Government, because the relative interests were dififerent.; but they viewed it in the sanie, and in nio other liglit, with the ether Powers of Europe. As to the other apprehension entertained by the noble lard, it was use- less to discuiss it. That any other mekmber of the European confe- deracy could be putt in danger by the present occupation of Spain, was a vain dread, It was not possible, from their situiation or cir- cunisutanes, that they could by that circumstance be platced in greater danger fromn the power of France: "Stabant mntnnes primi transmittere cursump, "Tenidebantque manus ripae ulterioris amore." If thienoble lord'simotion wvere carried, he would findl from she papers produceed the accuracy of every thing wvhich he (AM r. Canning) had now advanced. Nor could there be any immediate objection to it, as far as the negattive assurances. of the French Governmie-nt were in question. The reul obstacle with the nioble lord was9, that he had not hiad any Parliamentary grounds for his motioni. His lion. friend necar him hiad puirsued a course, in opposing the motioni, which was perfectly just to the Goyernment. Vhenever a question of suspicion was mooted unjustly, in proportion to the injustice done to the miotives of btove.rnment, so muchi the strnger ought to be the declaration of confidence by the house. If the reasons of that confidence did not warrant so strong ani expression of it, that was a subjeoct whichl would soon be rouht o aclererundrstndig:if the conduct of the Govern- men di jutif th cofidnce itwasonly, fair and honourable unde thse ircmstacesto rin itto the proof, and mnake it knon b adirct ecaraionoftha cnfidence. (Cheers.) It' the feas o th nblelor wee roundlss,ifthere was no probability madeouttha th FrnchGovriie~tintnded to push the mili- tarvocuaion of Spain into politica possioni-if the British Go ernin a hett no steps untre to assure themselves of the intention of the Frenchb, and found no grourid whatever for apprehensionad if the house found all this upon thiepapers alreadly before thens they were bound toi vote against the noble lord ; and tfurthier, if t'hey fon,ta mn sailed by suspicion, thecy were entirelywihublm upon thc mnatter in question, he hoped that they would do the Government the justice to say openly to the counitry, that as they had nothin, to allege against their p'ast con- duct, so they still held andiminisXed confidence in them as to the future. (Loud and lorg continued cheers.) Sir R. WILSON said, in explanation, that hie hadl sent his papers unsealed through thie office of the right hon. gent., because, as he was comimunicating withi one who was then a miniister of the Sipanish Court, lie thoughit O'at it was no, only proper, bitt highly necessary, that the officers of the British Governmrent should be acquatinted with tshe transaction. Al r. CA NN I NG, in explanation,. said that his remark- as to the inviolable secrecy observed by his office in transmittin tlioppapers. of the hon.'geTmtetnsrit; -rdfdiTef eTitifi3 t6 letters toprv Te.ns duals, whirlsi we.re also forwarded by thne honourable gentleman. Sir JAMES .11ACINTOSH began by rema-rking upon the con- stitutional functions of Parliament; the duties due from the mem- bers to the state, as advisers in the great council of the nation, and the proper exercise of them in respect to the present question. Hle would not have rizsen, but for an observation or two which thec right hon. gentleumn did him, the honlour to address sLo hiim up- on the subject of the law of nations. And first, he must ob- serve upon the astonishing inaccurey and seeming wnt Of in- formiation as to the writings of the juriarts unider whic'h the right honourable gentleman scemed to labour. He had actually quoted Vattel in answer to wchat lie termed the more nmoseri anuth olty of Byrnkershoek, when, in fart, Vattel's book did not appear till near- ly Id years after the death of Bymkershoek. As to the defect of Byn. kershioek's authoeritv, the righit hon. gentleman had well nighi en- lightenedi hiit (Sir jamejs Macintosh),, but that the righit hon. gen.- tlemnan had accompaniedl his observations with some inaccuracies w.hich put him on his guarid. He (Sir J. Macintosh) had never o' fered t ie autlior-ity of' Bvnkershoek to the house as that of the Se- cretary to the Statesof Holland. He hadsaid that Bynkershoek wvas President of' the Supremne Council of Hollaind and Friesland, wvhich was the most celebrated of Arty court of Europe for wise aridI binding decisions, and for the authority of its opinions in all qutestionis affecting the law of nations. The judigmenit which he had read from B3ynkenshioek was no light and in- considerate opiinion, expressed as the right hon. gentleman would have the house to believe : it was sol6mnlly written down in a letter sent in answer to the letter of a Minister of State of one of the chief courts of Europe, denianding informiation upon the questLion subniitted. But Vattel hadi nothing to do with the question be- fore the house. The quaotation matle by the right hon. genitleman was whiolly, imipertinent to his despatches. VIattel, in the passage just read.declared against any persons going to war in character of officers, soldiers, or subjects of the state, buit it did not forbid volunte-ers from entering into a war professedly And avowedly disowned and de- precated by- their own government. So thaLt, as the right honour- able gentleman proposed to style every blunder of his a B3yuker- shook, liecould be justified in callini every blunder of the riglht htorou'rablegentlemian's a Vattel, and thus he believed that he had furnishedlhim withia Rowland for his Oliver. He congratuilated the righit honourable gentleinax on thle variance between his doctrines and the really excellent practice of the Government in this case, and he congratulated his honourable and gallant ftrieiidI near Iihin, in the jusuice whiich had been done in the eloquent speeches of the right hon. gent. and the hon. member for Staffoird to hiis generous, brave, anti noble sentimnents in the causeof Spain, and on the syniipatliy which was disltlayed by she house towards hnin on account of those sentiments. Thie rights hon. gent. had dwelt upon the coniduct of his noble friend near hiim, ini a manner not quite so fair, lHe drew a descripition. of some6 part of his noble friend's con- d'uct facetiously, beeause it was capable of being so treated ; but he passed over other parts whiichi wereofaseriouskind, and which re- dounded to liishonour(cheers),becauseit evincedabhighisense ofchival. rvy, and those generous feelings which characterized every part of his codc,adevery ~eiitirnent of his heart Thme right hon. gentle- man svoula not conclude that thepresence of his noblefriend in Spain was either unseemly or unimportant, mnuch less was it inglorious, if he considered for a while that his noble friend had been instrumental in saving brave and unfortunate men, whose crimne was the love of their cou'ntry, from tIme dungeons and scaffolds of a tyrant. Fle whio biad contributed to the rescue of those estimable men; might claim a little indulgence from the house in suirveying his conduct, though hemIgh hav e violated some few texts of Vattel or have hrokcn through som-e precept of his learned friend Bynker- s~hoek. (heers. This, at least, might he boldly avyerred, thathi noble friend had not done any thing which would disgrace the English character, or the rank which be owned, or tsiat conduct whic ditinuishd hm, o amabl int'he dleportment of his pri- vat lie, o mnlyandgeninein ublc. As to the object aimed to the jury who acquitted him, to apadteronvrit or, in more measured phrase, asking th_e tribunal before whom he hld gone, to praise the judgment which they had given ? Was there any thing more difficult to obtain than one who should have praised Athens, would have got most readily from the Athenians of old. He thought, however, that it was, to say the least, precipitate for the right honourable gentleman to call for praises upon a subject the merits of which had vet to undergo solemn deliberation. As to the boasts of the right hon.- gent., they were victories obtained, if at all, in imaginary hostilities. In the motion of April last, none of his lion. friends had expressed the least expectation of being backed by the majority of the house-they knew too weU what the majority wasmade of: thev expected nothing at all from the numubers of the division. They did their duty to Spain and to the country, against what thtey took to be a dangerous example in the conduct of tbe Government. If they were defeated, it was very easily, and for the best reason- the greatet part of themn had assisted in swelling the majoritv. The differerce between the motion, then, and the aniendment of the hon. memb?rfor Yorkshire was, thatthey thought if they pressed matters in dividing, it woald give an impression abroad that the Govern. ment was urgent against the cause of Spain. They had that cause reaUy at heart, and they would not put itin any danger on accou-t of party views. WVhat other motive could they have had ? They were likely to have done as well as usuaL They had lost no friends-they were al agreed-they would have divided with their usual strength-certainly not with deewsea nuumlsts. Upon the present question, his noble friend had submitted a case which was not easily answerable from the other side, reqtdrinrs the production of papers. The right honourable gentleman insisted upon con- v6rting it into a hostile motion, and was preparing.for a third ima- gmnary victory. The right hon. gent. chargedit s a falt sgainst is noble friend, that he should persist i'doubtijig'the sinedrity of Frana& 'When did ever thp statesmch of thfi country;--he spoke of ws i and coniidetate statesmen-entertaii anyn othef septi;ue;tsa to- tdmrFPnce.t When did the statesmen cf;'tis ouftiity ever pro- fe6s that they trusted 3Frace? Ie woultll assq the qepetiofior tle riglithon. gentleman. Frantce was trusted byIEnglish statesmen in the ignoble reign of the Stuarts-ndt for the objects of political greatness, but because the English Court looked up to France to fur- nish them with the means of degrading the other powers of the state, aud bearing down the liberties of the country. The right hon. gen- tlem an had hinted at France being solicitous to evacuate Spain. .Fould he persuade the House of Commons to believe that? Would hehave them to belteve that France ever could willingly'give up the ascendancy which she now held, for which she had always struggled ? Then would he perform a miracle in the art of persua- sion which had never been eoualled by anyminister that ever sat in thelouse. The right honourable gentleman, though he denied that the&e*a any case, could not but admit that there was one portion of xatase, which was that of sending Spanish troops against the Son thAmericancolonies, whilethe French were in occupation of Spain. What if Spain were enabled to send the troops merely because France was in occupation v 7sVhat, if at the very same juncture of time that Spain was overrun by French troops, the Spanish Government should be found issuing proclamations, on which the claim of sovereignty was set up again with threats of its exercise against those found in rebellion. M5ust it not then be concluded that the presence of the French army alone enabled Spain to send out forces against South A,merica-must they not consider that as the same thing with send- in' out French troops to South America? Was not this a case really existing, and was not the object of his noble friend, in wishing to know what steps had been taken by the Government to avert that danger, a proepr one ? It was said, that this was showing too much ijealousy of France. Ile would not say that this was the conlition riatural3y of the two powers; but certainly jealousy became them as antago- nist powers in the system of Europe. Then it was asked, whv call for the papers, if youdistrust the assurances of France ? How could the house know that the papers might not contain direct refusals of any assurance-that they might certify an intention to continue the occupation of Spain; or at least furnish strong evidence of such a disposition. These were good grounds for the motion, without any referetce to the conduct of Government, to which no part of the speech of his noble friend referred. If every motion for papers was to be construed into a design of throwing suspicion on the Govern- ment, then to be sure, witlh the assistance of a well-disciplined majority, there would be a short answer ready for every question in which the conduct of Government could be involved. That was not the way in which he read the constitution. Asking fer informa tion used not to imply censure, the suspicion of which could be set up as a suffielent ground of refusal. In the better scnse, Parliament, as a brancl of the great national council, among its otherduties was to inform itself of what was doing in regard to our foreign relations, to offer its advice if it thought proper, to be adopted or no as the Go- vernment might think proper, without implying of necessity censure or susplcion am to the conduct of the officers of Government. Lord JOHN RUSSBLL shortly replied. It seemed to him to be a new, and not a very seemly course fbr ministers to take, when, uipon every occasion, and for day after day, upon being asked for papers, they should be louder and louder in their own approbation, and call upon the house to join in the chorus of their own praises. He thought that in the right hon. grentleman it stiowed an illiberal itching for applause. The amendment was of very little consequence, and he was not so curious about the num- bers as to press hi motion to a division. He could not but remark, however,that there was,aceording to the old views of Englis' policy, something very dangerous in the enlogium of an Englisis Minister upon the Government and army of } rance, engaged in an act of unquestionable aggression, when they ought rather to have expressed a wish that the French army would go hosme, which would certainly have been the course pursued in better times. The amendment was carried without a division. Alr. Secretary PEEL moved for the appointment of a select coin- mittee to consider of the laws relating to prisons, and to report their opinions thereon to the house. Mr. BiANKES moved for accounts of the expenses iticurretd in building the new courts of justice in Wfestminster-hall. The CHANCELLORof the EXCHEQUER wished the hon. gentleman to delay lis motion till next week. Alr. BANKES said that the works were going on in a wretchedly ill taste, and so rapidly, that his motion would be useless if delay- ed till next week. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that in- conveniences of a grave nature were stated as likely to arise in the administration of justice, and which seemed to render the comple- tion of the building desirable; but no order had been lately given to expedite it. He would have no objection to give orders to sts- pend the work for two or three days (without disctaarging the work- men) if that would meet the hon. gentleman's views. He was not prepared to say that the building ought to be puUed down; if, there- tbre, he should hle driven to vote, he should vote against the motion. Mr. BANKES said his objection was to that part of the build- ing svhere the two Venetian windows and tile small windows bv the cut-off corner were. Hewould engage to find a place for the Court of King's Bench on the other side ; and with the aid of the ordinary diligence of London workmen, he would engage it should be fit for the reception of the Court of Justice as soon as that which was to be finished. After some further discussion as to the day whben it would be con- venient to entertain fr. Banikes's motion, it was fixed for Tuesday next, and the m,otion for to.night was withdrawn. UNION DUTIES. On the motion of the CHtANCE.LLOR of the EXCsIaQt'El, the housewentintoacomnmitreeonitheunion duties act. Its the com- mittee lie stated, that it would be in the recollection of tie house thatsomeofthesedutieswere repealed, andothers were prospec- tively repealed; to the latter measure he had objected at the time, as he con,sidered the repeal should be immediate; and lie had now the satisfaction to find, that those v'ery individuals who last year sup- ported the prospective repeal, w'ere now anxious to have them repealed inmecliately. He concluded by proposing a resolution to that effeca. Mlr. HUillE said, he was one of a minority of 30, who, in 1820, endeavoured to get rid of these union duties; he was gladl to find that those who then opposed the measure had seen reason to change their minds, and he hoped, therefore, that the Chancellor of the E x- chequer frons this exaniple would not allow the clamour of indivi- dual interest to change his course from the true broatl principles of cortiner, AiIr. '. lTZ7 ERAlD suggested the propriety of remitting the duties on the stock in liand of the armv clothiers in Ireland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXC IEQt ER said that objec- tions of the same kind were made last year as to various articles, and he believed thathehad at length succeeded in convincing the par- ties that justice did not require it. Any small loss arising from the immediate repeal would soon be compensated by the increased acti- vity of commerce. After a few worts from .Ur. F. LEwis, the resolution was agreed to, the house resumed, and the report was ordered to be received to- morrow. The slave piracy bill was read the second time, and committed for to-morrow. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at a oirARnrwr PACT' T rIT 'R: A'C AIV I HOUSE OF COMMONS, TmT1ISflAN'. AIARCIT 18. NTEGRO (Sl,.AVERY.