We do hope that the House...
The Times, 1824-06-05T00:00:00

We do? hope thar -tbe .use of Commons wMi proceed with due caution in the bills respecting combinations of worktnen. We canhave no private partiality to. the.laws a,ga,nst.combinations, for we never appealed to them: bue we bave shownrp, vwe apprehend,, beyond. all questlion) that a.witnessh s.gravely detailed, and the Coxnirittee hive as gravely listened to, the equppasedseveritie 'of. thlpcmbinaw tion laws, wheit the severities described (whether fictitious or real) proceeded from the executaon'4f anoiher law, the combinatiron law never being thought?of as applicable to the casein question. And after such a, "puttig 'of -the sad. " dle onithe wrong horse as this,'. surely honQurable gen- tlemen ousht to. be g:reatly'suspictdus of. the firn'ncss of the gr,ound on which they stand. They are not the worst friends.. of journeymen who protect them from 'the iyrarmy of each- other, or rather who pro- tect the worthiest from the .tyrannyo?ithe most. worFflthess. We gav, e. aceount. of Mr.; TAvLoe's evidence yesterday; to-day wye baveiuserted a part9of that:of .Mr. PrAcn1,-in which the -witness will be found t& describe a tyranny ex- ercised over the journe ymen 'ofhis.trade, byj a-portion of their own body, such .as was hardly ever.knoWn to exiit. The rules of the trade resmllem a de e iws o? the celebrated f:Black- Tribunal,' in Getmany-: .audyet Mr. PLAcE is for-abolishing the laws againsti .9mbi6n.i t. must, mean, then, to substitute a more severe system ira their.stead: for, acknoiledging.andTstrongly depikiux thw magnitude-of the evil which exists, he cannot be supposed. to mean that now laws bhould be passed for its supprosson~ But that which proves that the Coinmittee bave- tbtaUl- failed in obta,ning,. stn4 therefore in com,muliieatipg, a.y aiccurate lnowwedge of the state of trade in the metropolis, is this-that we obsetve the members to use frequently such ,expressions-- as the following,-that " even the. " rnasters allow," -.1- even the -masters scknoWledge,, &ce > -asif:the imasters wereSin general, enemies:to combinationr., Why, nineteen times out, of twenty, the masters are the- only gainers by combinations. They proceed in thbe case of IIa strike," as't'e dealers,ini -Ay.ag,ticle~ proceed& on the denunciation of a new tax,-they clap. on the ad- ditional price immediately. The p:bliq.and theh pooejour. neymen themselves. are the only suiferers.- - Nevertheless, there -is one point in favo.u,r of the im ters 'which we must notice. It is said. that-they conspire as well as their journeymen, but that they, are never, ro,secu,tedI If it be r.eally the-case that-they do consspire, wearesorry that they are not prosecuted even to conviction. We. are not .- aware, however, that the: masters have. ever subscribed a part. of their gins: to. a. co n, fun for the. p.urpose of carryiug. on the war against their journeymen. They have .never,;, ,to. the .best of. our knowledge, -bad. an .org,anized committea and. dele. gates for the govemrninent 14f their body-t--hey,ha'e. never mustered in crowds, to. prevent by force.any individuals of' their,bodyfrom paying,the price elaiinedby their jQUrney men. And:ifthe.masteys have.never dene,.orare not iini the habit of doi,ng, any ofthesa th.inrgs;iov ye.r5yIitQ&tehoSi h they. affor.ded for the detection of a combination. jfItkuth withlout these essentials,bo very tleo e of 3 teal btion remains., IPJi%.not accurate, therefore,;-it is tt true, tbit the masters have coibmiied .1ikthejirj,ourney7e and if' t!iqyliadsoconbined, -weshould only6eeaU addjtiinal reas for protec ig the frnomt -kn vistkttanny,%ttip over themu by certain members of their own body... Butofall tlie.absurdities that eve,re- curred,themostabsurd is the sending for Mr. NrGuC-IOC 'the 'lectulter, -and :Mr. .MALTHus$,,to examijle,thiem on -their opisions in matters of politieieconohliw1 Gerieralprinemileagiv.en inevid4cne I If invyor nan of the cnmbe,rs 70,or t"eoC iett 4ad,f,i6nd themselves unquafl;fieAty their previput attainments forthe. :nvestigatiqn ofthe question-submitted to.themj they -should have taken- privatq les5s,ns before the Assemblinj 'oIft1ie -Co,mmittee; atnd:we.do 6ii. see y,wij. ot e h, .wp, i i tr . tion, they ,mig,bt n6t heen,a, ble ":to ticlde.you off".as 'g0od an opim'on: s- eithet-1r. :M'Cunoc)( or MAfr. MALt .THS;. Inddin-, as matters werey *e t"b:lthe. ther strove to 't.sholv'oif" before,tteirtatpr4, tba ,to" any sbber;seiec tem. T he llowing are among the profound.questions and.Answers in the exarainiations or .these adepts-.. Commrittee tq Mr Q .M CULLOci--K Then iltayour opi. 'nion'.the .only principle of permanent price is tlie cost of' 'production ?" .. . r M ur. ftiTeLoc ss asi er ?o .the Committee.- " The .";only principle of teknmaiint priee,1s, the qautity o labou,r required t6 produce. tthe article in-qtuestion I I? !" Committee to Afr. - MATlIs .s--;me iinioin of' the, Justice, pobi?y.,oi propr^edy <s tecmi ' nation) Jaws-be,insr continued!' rv, of1 suh (h' co'i. Wc '' lr.''M\iTj , to-be e ,.oinniitt<. -"'They .evridently I appear not to.be.sjiit', aid -oufib,4k -b a!oJio eb :.tWre. "c fore, if iot.absolutely,- esst yderjc .~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . "stances, tht,yd o.notappcar to Itie-,to benec,essary,!t! " If- tlcse,!utesti,Oii5 and'a sitsVer3s a,, ,war,, the t,. not-make tbereader r..hisce'es, aud -Iookl gain, anda. sure himself 2t least a do n*tinws; ru,htit,gaod looking :afire,slh,. thaLits Sint dos no'tleciive.him; *e sha be.sur._ prised.. Mr. IHuir,, eperceqtvc, :v! ,i the ciair,duriing tbese. ~e,xiaatiOlS: .he.n st,.there,fore, hxve pSt the qucs. tions; but sur6' he:is1ovesuc ua1 <ttil)SOn,. June. 44'l h TSing tqol - an lairing in his *phaetor! tl2is mor4ng, in the r;idlasin tbei?ar His :fNljAa_ ,jesry stopped at thle Royal Lodge for somne time, thailter_ atioxis inl which are nearly completed. A newv grand 8ate- wvay-anid entranlce to thle Castle, fromi Opposite the Lon~. walk, is beginning to be.built, wbich, wlhen fi,tished, wil I ave a grsud gffict.